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The Hump! Podcast Ep. 15: Long Weekend Trips

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The Hump! Podcast Ep. 15: Long Weekend Trips

"The episode. Fifteen BB eight Seattle. Fifteen eight Seattle. What's your show about how to get one over in the single life? This phone Jeb you. Oh, does not stand for the robot. That was prominently. The newest star were film Star Wars film, although I do wanna BB eight. It's not nearly life size like like iota. A little robot. Little got the Ciro makes those little apple iphone shoutout to zero shutouts aspera, we expected sponsorship, next episode Ciro. So what are we doing tonight? I picked it out. I should know but I'm gonna let you allow ale Smith evil dead red ale. Then read you do like the reds. I do like the rent vitamins, I'm not a communist. I just like to drink. Yeah, you're fan. I I'm ready. Yeah, you're not gonna grow up when beco- used to work at pony express that was probably one of the better views was the wrath. The other thing about this beer, did you see the on it? I did not. You're all is six point six six for several. Brew where you fan of that. You will then move ins. It's been way too long darkness. Yeah. I've seen that it's fine. Well, so Showtime, each time uninsured time. And they've got hash the evil dead. And so, I've started, I'm getting to the point now are still working late and Beck has gone to bed and she's like, don't watch that episode without me. So I need to pick something that she would never want to watch that qualify sad qualifies, except there's a lot of screaming it wakes up, and she's lucky that that's always kinda awkward to yet to concentrate finger on the volume button, you, you can't hear because we're getting old, yes, you can hear the screaming you hear the dialogue can hear the scream. That's exactly what was. So what are we toasting tonight? Well, my oldest is eighteenth birthday today, today, I was wondering, because you're a little later, the normal, NADA, poor meeting, so new, you're going to be a little later. I was sitting there wondering, did he have last minute planted chance? Daughter set up like her graduate. Last minute plans just found out about it unit miss attacks. Now we got relegated to last night to celebrate because boy, friend head at first first priority, the boyfriend. Yeah, this is. Do we have the boyfriend on the show? Probably not. I don't think it's I think they're they're smart enough. They're going to different colleges in like when to the make that we try to make this work long distance. I think it's smart of them. And yeah, we I was thinking, we could give him the casino royale dream but the cane chair out the bottom. Not. Now, I don't like any of them, but that maybe a little heart. This one's not. There's no need probably not coming over again. We do that the last wife would have been okay. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think we're a fan of either of the previous ones. Yup. Yup. We do. Well, let's, let's cheers oldest honor to your eighteenth birthday salute. Speaking of milestones, our producer. We have new producer this evening. Not just a stand in probably going to be our full time studio producer. I think it's at got an interview to trial. We'll see how he does these went through his first out of you, call major, but at least minor surgery, as his wisdom is a life moment. Low milestone, wisdom teeth. They out Sonoda Alex, like a chipmunk. They grow up, so fascinated grow up. They do grow fast. He's just happy to be out of the room where we successor. So, yes. Meeting say feeling over there. Jeep. Oh, you just need ice on your cheeks pads. You can take the take the fear bottle in the beer bottle. But that I get your face. Feelgood from salt. Right. So toast, just the him to six wisdom teeth. Lack of Wilson Tate. And speaking of new producer. So the old producer, which probably test J. Yep. He's think unpacking boxes right now somewhere Colorado moving on up. Yeah. Somewhere pelerins. I'd love me a good Colorado summer, man. That's a favorite weather. Maybe we could check up him. At some point I wanna stay with him. We got that we've graduated beyond. Food. Leaping on crusty old couches privately that ship has sailed. Let's does Jane move. Good luck. You're thinking about you. So would you guys would you guys do? Sweet. We'll get some hiking part Bill. They got like a nature sanctuary there and kicked it around there for awhile, and then just went downtown, and did the usual explored. And we didn't get. I tech now we did give you you said, we do the utilizing I in Milwaukee's delegates. Yeah. Those are. It's usually the usual. But now went to. Double shift burning and torn label brewing. They there tapper on the same exact date three years ago. So they both have. Reported. Okay. Double shift is pumping out some, some funky Bruce. They add lak- oatmeal stout that they soaked, some birthday cake in. Oh. Little too kitschy for me. It was, you know, done but thought, yeah, but that's good ones too. They had a few new sours usually Oblate a couple new beers. They like eight new beers on that day alone. So keep them on tap or they, they would tap. They only did like you know, that's pretty small microbrewery sell out here, they planned ahead and basically, like a couple either keg or two of each one, and then they staggered throughout the day. So they were ten o'clock they tapped one, and then, you know, three o'clock they tap the one it's almost like going to see a concert. It's like, hey, you've got your opening act and then we're working through the acts throughout the day. Yeah. It was packed, though. That's one of my favorite little microbreweries kids city. Well, we didn't we didn't do show to ago too. I was going to ask you about the Univer talked about this little bit, but to begin to go you and your wife, dive, route speaking breweries, we can go you guys. Were kicking it on the little scooters causing also talion thirds. Yeah birds. Yeah. Torn level. You took this label right that we stock some people because you can check it out on the app and see where they are. We saw these people heading to torn label. Okay. And they park them and went and got a beer. So we still there birds. Road him around for you know half hour? So it's a dollar and then fifteen cents a minute. Cheap but they're pretty damn entertaining. And as because we tooled around there on the the east crossroads for while and then like, let's go back to tore label have a beer as we were pulling up the couple that we stolen from they came down there. Like have you guys done with those like? Yeah, they're like, thank God, we wouldn't have beer McKay back in their dawn. They were gonna be agreeing it. So you know what they'll probably in bed Kellogg, your monster that episode we add with Cathy where you're telling me about the locks where they locked the back in the seats. So the camera Klein I could see somebody inventing boots that we go on these birds her like a bourbon. Those, those U-shaped bike locks and you could just put it through the wheel, you lock it. Nobody can take but it was funny because we tool around like this parking lot dying. I just do like circles like in the it's because it was fun. And there's two older guys sitting outside at one of these buildings. And they're like, hey, what's the deal? When I've seen like twenty people on there like somebody selling these all of a sudden, I see him everywhere. Tell them a little bit about the bird story, and they're like, pretty cool. So what are you? What's your take on that? I mean, I've seen the news is like almost every day of the news, they have some sort of a news report about not so much. You can't city he people problems. But in other cities where people are just taking on and throwing at like throwing them. The body's water. They know who's Brennan, it or I don't know. I guess you don't have to rent it youth your dick. You could just pick it up and take off with. They make so much money on. They can afford to lose a few of them, but pretty cool. Yeah. How big are they like one of the stated scooting as her like one of those race a little bit bigger than that, that they're electric, and you get going, and it's got a little throttle rake? You know you can get going pretty pretty good on them thinking. Twenty miles an hour house. Now did. Okay. Yeah. That's, that's cool. I'll have to go try. And before they. They're going to ban them. They seem like in the earning that all the mayor and stuff I've seen, like his, he had no problem. No. I mean it's Janet gets hit and killed with one but you know you can do that just walking. Yeah, that's the thing too. I mean it's kind of it's funny. It's like I've seen tons of people writing them and they're very adamant when you rent it like you have to wear helmet. You have to get to see one person where a helmet, it's like you're not allowed on the street are not allowed on the sidewalks people riding on the sidewalks. There is a little little chaos going on. But yeah, that's, that's our legal team. I think the balance they're like, hey it was there in sculpture. Yeah. City officials tooling around on them and they're on the puck and sidewalk without without a helmet. Like, you know, but they're saying, you know, we'll take it you, you you're riding on the sidewalk. You know, kids cities, not the most bike friendly city. We're getting, they're, they're add more bike lanes, but there's a lot of streets man. I wouldn't wanna be out there. No. Now, I definitely wouldn't want to be on the sidewalks. Sure. Let's go. I don't think I'd be able to take it wouldn't be much help to where we were this last weekend, though, taking down the old the lake. Yeah. We are like the Ozarks we had some. Some friends that friends of well, their mind, too, but really back with high school with this girlfriend, and they have a lake house, and it's got you'd appreciate the history. So it used to be the house of Willie the rat costano. I think it's his last name. He was a mom, eat some obser- mobsters have lake Holmes. Well, apparently, when you're he was, I think it was a Lieutenant for top-end aghast. So apparently, it's pretty well known like house down there, and they bought it and they've added to it a little bit. But you know, they live within certain radiance radio up. Radius of their house people will say, oh, living Willie rats I get I get it. But they keep waiting to see, you know, money will flow ten digging around similar it might be like some booty hidden somewhere. Well, with the renovations were hoping they would Dixon, Bob or hoping, not to dig up like a bag of, like money would be good of dead, body nuts. So we didn't time we go down there with them every year. Come on. Man. I it's to me. I'm sorry. That's just bottles. This shit up. It's offensive you travel with another company, which is gonna be the subject to today's conversation, actually trained on this episode. I wasn't invited over for eggs and beer on World Cup days, brunch is one thing. Late physically sleeping under the same roof is seven totally. I'm not gonna let up on this. Well, we. We start tragedy bubbling with. Well, we did some acting. Sounds lovely and boarding. And that was pretty much likes you likes about, but she was, so she was practically hitting the kids with the panel. Make sure it's she got all by yourself. Well, that's that's more of the dolt activity. You know. Yeah, it should be it should be. And she made it intimates. So what are you looking forward to this weekend? I mean we're going to be hanging out a little bit. There's parties going on this weekend. Yeah. Florey. New brewery opening up in Lee's summit, fairly cited new axiom would have you heard? I've seen it for motive a lot. But yeah. Just seemed I mean, I've seen pictures on Instagram or whatnot. They're silly looks pretty cool and on the beers pretty good, so, yeah, being visiting new craft brewery. That's one of my favorite things. I've seen a little bit about it because that. The lamb out. I'm butcher last name. Eleven three KC her on up next. Yes, she. Yes. She's been posting a lot about them. Matter of fact, I just joined a beer group on Facebook. I didn't know there was big be one reason maybe for you to get back on Facebook. There were fifteen thousand members of this. Kansas City craft beer can unity and need to talk to fifteen thousand people on Facebook about your no. Now I've seen quite a bit about the burry there. Where is it is it down? Downtown. Exactly. Sure I would soon it's down there. Ripley fringe and whatnot. Okay. Off to make it to making track. It's not gonna happen this weekend. Unfortunately, what about Friday, Friday, Sodi's haven't heard effort. They've already. So that's problem is it's problem. I don't think it's gonna happen. Could happen Sunday, potentially. That'd probably better dating. That's it could happen on Sunday. I'm looking forward to that. Thing that's going on. We're gonna talk about it, but. Talked about it at nausea. From my board meeting is fringe festivals going on last week into fringe festival. There have been best in show, and also guess doing some sort of up on her of like the Messner puppets, the heart of America Shakespeare festival. So puppet student Shakespeare, his part of that, since promising doesn't prompts. Now after offensive puppets, like avenue q, doing Shakespeare, that's even like king. You the truth puppets. Yeah. More like game of thrones with puppet that will, it's that, that would be high. That's high so fringe brewing is involved in it. I mean that's like the perfect marriage. You would think that you'd think they'd be like going to range brewing saying, hey, we're having a fringe festival well and their fan. I mean, the story behind that because when I asked during tour, which speaking of c. See. That's the new t-shirt finally got my wears on. They can't sitting or t shirt. Nice. Yes. Very nice. I'll eat better than the other one. It is not like the design a little bit better charcoal coal. The caller is grant would say the color, the color way color way. That means. But I just call it colors. Yeah. Most people teller cover way. The. Yeah. You'd think they'd be the perfect sponsors because they think magicians that they knew make no money in opening up a magic shop. They opened up a beer man craft brewery, that looks like a magic show. They're like a circus seems like an odd combination. Circus beer. Circus beer of delight. I mean wonderful stuff. I was in heaven back understood, why heaven when we wanna come a week weekends ago. And she looked at the board of thirty the beer's eighteen of a more like dark as tar, and I'm like, ABC's overnight. It's right near sweet funds right in my to lease ninety nine nine. Yeah. Oh, the other thing that's going on this weekend is again, there's so much stuff. We got playing again do in the school ship is I'm gonna go to the, the twenty twenty diversity their bottom books. And so at Union Station they're doing. Harry Potter celebration in teaching people brewing, potions, teach people do quidditch and. Which I without really being able to fly. Julius run with a broom between your legs lakes. I'm seeing it them the people hit each other with brooms. I mean maybe some slapping but it's not you know, not heavy. It's not it's not a weapon. Okay. Yeah. And this isn't happening this weekend. But the other big news, did you see? No Kemper has being renovated, right into the via rain announced not even Kemper. Did you hear the the news about? It's I thought it was all going to be basketball, like community center, primarily the basketball courts. They are installing twenty four pickle ball courts on the second floor, solely dedicated a pickle ball sport court where you could play basketball and play volleyball, you can play solely, the minor sending solely dedicated pickle ball, and they're hosting apparently they're hosting like three significant pickle regional to national pickle termites within the first line more Vence. Wow. So if you wanna get your serious pickle ball on. Well, it's always been dream to go pro maybe this is my this might be. She's my move. There's an over fifty league to like over fifty. You're not quite there, but you'd be intrigued that's perfect. Now. Like it's like, you know, like golf, man. You know these golfers. They, they're great in their twenties and early thirties. And then they start to suck at they get old and, you know, like they can't they can't compete anymore. They'll send you make the senior tour and all of a sudden, when you're fifty you're the youngest guy on the senior tour see your raking on this senior. I'll I'll kill the senior tour. So I just want to give you that noticed it's not this weekend because they don't open until officially until October. I got three years, though to really hone hone my game you need to go out and work hard drums. Yeah. We're gonna grabs. Right. So speaking of drop in things, we're drop some knowledge about. We've got this event, we do every year talking about sleeping kind of somewhat under the same roof, although this you technically we will sleep under the same roof because Airbnb exactly is. So we've got the same call. Eight now know whether it's called well I think because you gotta start alphabet. I never doubt my mind I always call now. It's feeling bowing its out battle. This year's your age once folks when it's. I mean it was God you're sending two thousand ten was the first year two thousand eleven. The first nation was, it was New York and it was the tenth anniversary of September eleventh. Ask can we went and saw the memorial? Yeah. Again after the they actually Denver's. So wasn't we didn't like September eleventh? I think we went September eighteenth every year for eight years now. We decided let's just pick a, a cool city. We've never really been to or spent time in all right? So do your and then you're to San Francisco. Napa kind of tan them those wine country will, you know, city city, then we did Philly, which I'd never been to Philly before love that city, Chicago Portland, Oregon, Oregon and Birla Maine's on the list we have made it there yet. Couple years ago, we for some reason, it didn't work out. Religiously to the station here in Kansas City, that's because my ask I laid off from my job. We will grow. Well, we didn't know what was going like we didn't know exactly what's going down. I read my severance I knew some things we're going to go back on. I didn't know what my severance was gonna look like vied known ahead of time. What my severance is gonna look like we should've just gone to your. Fiscally responsible? I was fiscal and we have time because that was the first time we play pickle. Yeah, actually, was because we went to chicken pickle, that just opened. So then last year we did Minneapolis. And then this year we're doing Seattle. Almost excellent almost did is almost limit. Descended on to sudden Seattle. Yeah. Wanna cool things. I like how we just start once once done. We start planning for the for the next. I mean, the list is kind of baked in all ready being place. You wanna go? I mean well, there's a couple that have been loosened us, right? Like Toronto's kind of always been on the list. And then every time we wanna go to Toronto the hair Jemison stove astronomical. Yes. What else main Portland Maine's but on the list? Well, we you and I always wanted to New Orleans, but ladies, had no interest. So we just went did we end? Now, there were at least Becca, regretted maddening would be down with you on as long as we don't eat only live on bourbon street now. I think it would be the same way nationals can on the list bit on north. We do tend to north like. I don't know why that is. But I mean I don't make just find cities in the south little like Atlanta. Phoenix. It's fine. Yeah. Let Lynn, we've been to quite a bit at least we have just because we have some friends that Nino for answer there. And you're right. We do tend to north. I'm trying to think to like some of the weirdest that's what I love 'cause we usually go September October, and you had a little bit. North weather is gorgeous perfect for extended walking trips. Yes. Very nice for extended watt. Well under always seems to be a nature. Typically, there's major complaint to this or canby in several of this, so which of those trips are were. Would you say kind of among your favorites, 'cause we've had unique shit at just about each anyone ends like there are moments in certain trips that will stick out to me to the end of time. But the trip itself may not been like of all encompassing may not been yet wasn't got for Diane. She's Kennedy trip. Secretary s she takes her little notes than, you know something to reference back in look at. She just keeps she keeps down gaffes. Yeah. Pretty pretty much. Baresi moments of one of us here or something really strange to happen. But. I don't know. I was kinda surprised like I said, I didn't know much about Philly before we went there, but I really liked Philly. And then we, you know, the little day trip to new hope, and that was fun strange. Horley is great. You know, we spent a couple of days in the city that took a ready to carbon the Columbia River gorge in Multnomah falls to the hiking and had a picnic out in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. That was nice. That was beautiful and just absolutely organised want. I mean, are Portland can has a little bit of everything you go to beach. If you go coupla hours one way you go the mountains the other way you have wine country, you got, you know, the giant gate, yet city. The hiking to the east. Great beer tend to yet, great great beer city, you will like we said I'd go back to Portland and harby. There's a place to we wanted. It was on our list. We just sit in place, two to three hours, south along the beach to where he can do Jin bugging was high on the list that just just didn't happen Philly. If you remember Philly was the destination, where we had severe all excited like soak up the history of Philly like, oh my God. Liberty bell, and, you know, Independence Hall, and the government shuts government shutdown just these sad. Generic looking signs this, this attraction is closed. Yeah. Now, that was that was unfortunate, so, yeah, say New York was funny, because New York's always gonna stick out one, because I and there seemed to be a little bit of everything in New York, and I'd like so great, though, from the standpoint of. There was. The sense of history. And song were from the standpoint of we got to see the morning all, and it was just so on Spiring. I mean, it really it really was just think about the events that occur there. And then after that everything we tried to do just fell into place. Yeah. We had a lot of luck on that trip. Yeah. It was like everything that we tried to do just kind of fell into place just worked. Yeah. Where conversely, we go to like, Chicago and the first event, we go planned to do absolute. That was all about. It was it the river what was supposed to be remembered. So they put these things. They constructed these buildings were supposed to be a metaphor of the Chicago. The city and then they were setting them on fires, like remembrance, the great Chicago fire in the middle of the room in the middle of the river, and they couldn't get the buildings to catch on fire. They just they just wouldn't catch and run, it is kind of ironic. So we celebrating Chicago fires. We just can't get lit. Yeah. The buildings will like we sat there for hours watching nothing like into Asian without of other people. I mean, there was a ton of peop-. The streets were just packed lined with people excited to see these, these fake buildings burned down in. We would think I think it's going, no no, not not gonna it's not that hard. Maybe they're just being extra careful. So what are. So Portland's New York is obviously feeling great all almost all these places great. It certainly is kind of adult was probably even staying here. We have great time yet. And we hit some places. I mean I wouldn't put the top of the eight or whatever been Seattle yet, but the top Senate, but Chicago's we have good time Chicago, but it wasn't like there was anything super member village. That was memorable to me with a remember what the Hakka Herschel was the time was you and I went into here and carries to watch chiefs game. And there was that one guy coast cuts. That's cuts. Yeah. Drug gourd and doing to start telling cold cuts, and then that was his name watching football game. We co cuts nothing. Well, I guess I should take that back. We had some great food purple pay. Yeah, I mean I absolutely love that city. I mean it's just we've maybe didn't hit the high points on that on that one. So what speaking highpoints Witter's from your most memorable highpoints vomits in some of these some of these trips, so we talked about new hope? Yeah, let's just creepy. I mean it's like a little little sleepy river town just like our north affiliate. We're sitting there having a drink were. Yeah. We were sitting in this register on the outside just went into the cafe. We just ordered the bears. Yeah. And the waitress was like telling us like the house across the street. It was beautiful old. You know it's the van Zandt out people 'cause it's gonna fans and Zan house, and it's beautiful like, wow, that's like places haunted shits where like what do you mean? Like what do you mean? And they the waitresses tell us about all this crazy creepy stories that there's some people will go anywhere near that lays than didn't know what to make of it. And then all of a sudden, what that storm kicked storm just kicked up and lightning hit behind the band's AM house and hit a tree and the tree fell on power lines. They drop live lines, dropped in the street, and there were people walking in the street. They had to like jump out of the way in the power, right? And up out of the way. And they just living our beers in the ladies were like act out on the patio on the lines are like kicking back all over the place where the power's out this restaurants pitch black, and we're gonna have lunch in there like we obviously won't be able to serve food, but sit here's liking enjoy your beers and. It was. All right at this creepy on it house creepy, intersection, one that we basically got about halfway through our beers in the restaurant manager said, yeah, I know what we told you that you need to get the hell out of here, and remember, they walked through the kitchen. We went into the back is go out the front. The power lines were laying on the ground. And then we went over to the Tex-Mex place with super omega Cuban places super nice patio. They just keep in place. They said they told us that they had a parade at that. In that town was two weeks before, and they had horses, perfectly healthy round that corner in the middle of the prayed sees up Sapir Lee weird shit happens at that place all the time. You can almost feel there's a weird energy around that place. You can say that place folks for five hundred dollars a night, if you'd like so I look at me. Oh boy. I looked it up. What, what else is this the other school about Philly while you're thinking about that was big Charlies? Yes. That was a very unique situation, Arrowhead east. Yeah. Key achieves bar in the middle of Philadelphia. I mean eagles fans are rabid, they're crazy like loyal. And it's but yet when couple miles from downtown, and there's this cool, you know, sports bar and one hundred percent cheeks. Yep. We watch the game. There's I don't know. Hundred people in they're all wearing chief stuff. I mean, just it was weird spl yourself and thinking you're here. Well except their accents. Yeah. And they heard us speak. And then immediately whipped around like they're not from here, and then they were super nice to us after their like, are you paschel kids sitting? Yeah. So school that school, what else on the list, I think we almost probably need to do, like whole Napa. We could do a whole episode. Probably on the ABA. Yeah, we had a really good time there. I love one country. It simpler just in that we, it's really really cool places. I think we get we can do that. So ram paying round Pat yet round pounds. So, yeah. Yeah. Philly Philly makes less. We just did a whole of Minneapolis and beer because that's what we did to was drinking heat Tammy. We would still water though, too. Yeah. That's kind of, you know, the out of the city day trip that we take just a cute little river town. So our next trip when he looking forward to Seattle been to Seattle. I was there when I was a child. Okay. 'cause that's generally one of the conditions of these trips is like somebody in the party's never been there on the most of the people really haven't been there. And I've spent a day, I would say spent a day there, where I walked around actually, went into the space needle letting go up, but gift shop. Yeah. Yeah. And go up did some driving around. No. I mean, I dunno just seems like it cool city. Some some great breweries logging whatnot, great seafood. And then just I love that part of the country. I mean it's gorgeous with weather now the weather, you know the mountains. It's green. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Kathy away on the show. Just went. She was our two hours west of there that was the yellow national park. And she posted some crazy pictures of like these mountain goats. Yeah. Just it was that videos like it was from this coverage again, this, this feels like one of those places that y'all must which had a little more time, because there's some really cool step, even outside the city Vancouver's not far away. Not Saint Helen's going on, but yeah, just some very cool things. We'd love to go. See it may not have time to do it all. Well know because we talked about. Coordinate off one day to go see some soccer. See supporting is knowing and Seattle plane that to stop it work out, one of the things. So it's all in. I didn't realize this until I looked at the Martha. So the space needle, and then there's a famous artist as glass blower, the jubilee glass nets, right? Get or the truly gardening last right next door. And then around the guess, a lot of museums. They have all like museum district. They also have a museum around the corner. Museum pop culture. That's right there. And it's all I guess, it's all the art work of the vendors. This is the big exhibit, maybe there by myself from. Pike's place. Catch me a fish Hinson. This have some Dungeness crab or something. That's what I can't wait for season. Yeah. This is not overly good around here to get that kind of stuff. Now, we'll even if there are places you pay out the nose. Get it where they're pretty much all down. And it's available to very true. Yes, I cannot wait for the seafood. Anything else that strikes your fancy? They thinking about that's kind of the pump part of these trips though. I mean, we kinda have a list of things that we, you know, maybe we'll do this stuff. But it seems like we had the most fun. We just can't see the road takes us in. Let it come to us. Yeah. How much of our trying to think back how much of our New Orleans because you brought up no Orleans. We had a huge list. I mean, we're even still working list is taking that initial Uber ride to though. Talmadge doubtlessly thing, we've hit Ned none. I mean days you can't really cover. Everything hit the high points hit may be have made maybe half of that list. Right. Will folks have any suggestions about Seattle doubt? The show's gonna drop before we go on, we'll do recap of it when we get back you do that. We'll get back your recap. Of course, recap ac- animal can compare to some of the other places within like particularly Portland near similar. Yeah. Become a natural Portland will do recap when we get back. But if you have suggestions, definitely some are way here, this even after we've gone, we come back into our recap, and you're like done FOX. What did you do this bulletin may not agree? We'll listen excuse to go back. Back so that no relationship no relation at all really the Tripoli this week, but we need to launch into the triple D of the week, the triple D's actually, really more a reflection of the being on the heels of MBA summer league. Yeah. And the fact that you're hardcourt Lakers fan really struggling with having to Kansas, jayhawks on thing on a Laker roster. They got magic came to his senses said, one of got to go. Yeah. So, and he's pretty talented replace that Jay hawk with a wildcat. I mean, again, get any better, which made you which may tell, yeah, he's maybe the best case state player ever really made. You really happy. So in honor of that move, I guess, I went ahead and selected this week's triple dating more along that flavor. Because if malate movement, who was a top five recruits can't make an MBA roster. Most parents for king. Crazy. So this week's triple the move and for folks out there, what we do is throw out a scenario, discuss whether it's dick mass move. This week's triple the move is what do you call the sports parents who think their kids are going pro. What do you call that sports parent? That thinks gets going pro gets like eight. Yeah. I mean that I'm the believer. The worst part of us sports are the parents. I mean the ones that just get weighed two into it and I coached by youngest daughter's basketball team for couple years. And it was coaches meeting, because, you know, it's kind of the coaches to police their own parents. And I'll never forget, I don't even like Bill self, but I remember the head of the organization said, I remember talking to Bill self once and Bill self was very adamant like. We are not sending scouts to your kids, a eight year old basketball game like it's not gonna happen. It's like less than one quarter of one percent of kids or even gonna get a look like. Yeah. You know, chill out Leo kid, have some fun, and don't get in the way, one that reminds me of the Bill self piece this reminds me of so I took g I'll were you seven. When we do the overnight Bill, that's that Jay, we did some one of the coolest things it's really more for the parents, and the kids is up until, like, h seven or eight you can go to KU basketball camp in. It's like an overnight for the parents and the kid they both gagging. And on the second day they separate the parents kids, and they take the parents auditorium more than you've got, like a mock press conference with Bill self and Bill selves, about the first thirty minutes talking about how we're all crazy all the all parents in this on Tori, I'm glad you're, I'm glad you paid your two hundred and fifty dollars. Yeah, but you're crazy. And then he goes, look, we'll call you don't call us. Was kind of the message don't piece together some some video of your kid, you know. Now if he's good. We'll, we'll hear about well, and then, then what was funny about that, where there was some parents, like western Kansas? But what if we live out in western Kansas, he goes, look, if your kids that good, we will find your kid that we might have to steal them for before they go to Wichita state, because we didn't really recruit them, but then, when Wichita state recruits them, and we saw that they're good enough to make Wichita state. We'll go wanna do that is and go, oh, we saw some Tate. We'll bring him here, but we'll find so. Wait, for case, you know, high school class was like twelve people like his town is so Brig and small, it's smaller than like your street yet. And he got a D one coach, like Bill, Bill. Fine. All right. So what is this? What is this move? That what do you call the sports pair? Kids going pro dictator stuff. I'm going straight. Dumbest because. They're just delusional. Yeah. Delusional I'm even thinking dumb ass. But for more of a logical reason they can't do math will to like the best. If you're the best player on your high school basketball team, you might get a sniff, you might get a sniff to go play college. You might get a look a look but yeah, they're not combing the you know. But that's just the play in college. We're talking to believe new men who was one of the top, I guess, pros a whole 'nother level rose a whole nother. Yeah. Well, considering there's what three hundred and fifty division, one basketball teams in their thirty envy eighteens like. You know, just do the number there, you could be the best yet you could easily be the best player in your your college team. And not be good enough. Not enough the plane now we're talking about the NBA could play see somewhere. And there. Their parents are like I help my kid goes and plays in Turkey. That's not my dream like. No, he needs to be playing for the Lakers, and he's playing so I agree. I'm with you. I think it's dumb ass. But more strictly on the numbers going unless you can jump nineteen hundred Nair. And you can lift a grizzly bear. I get it. You love your kid man. Like. But yeah, it's just a matter number map problem. It's not amber. Gee, what do you think? I still mess. You don't think you're making the league. You kidding the line LeBron. His mom. Nivola bron. Yeah. And, and she cheered. Like, I think he's even more screwed at that point, when mom needs LeBron mom named the boy Ron, and she had the clap that was like the cheer that I don't remember what the talcum powder. No. She didn't do the whole talk power thing. But she's the way she with yellow bronze almost like it was an any Murphy movie. Whereas hercules. You gonna Brown you go. Can't dribble, but he's named Bruns. He's got a leg up. So all right. Dumb ass all the way around, everybody dumb ass kids, not making the show. So that thanks for hanging with the summer, buddy. 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The AP Draft Show - Episode 1 (2019)

Arrowhead Pride

48:04 min | 1 year ago

The AP Draft Show - Episode 1 (2019)

"Sir. Fairy Mary draft miss to you. Thank you for joining us today. My name's Swanson, I'm the lead film and draft analyst for aero head pride. This is the first episode of two thousand nineteen four the draft show. Jake stack is back with me. Find him on Twitter at Jacob morally, we are back baby. Meadow we can Bill the football team. Yes, I am so excited to be back draft season is the best season Mary draft nece to everyone. It's it's been draft MRIs and for you for a while since you've been a Packers fan, we are kind of new to this. It's been less than a month for us. I'll fill you in. What have we missed actually do wanna do something real quick we left the two thousand eighteen season on a cliffhanger? We said the best prospect in the two thousand nineteen draft class is who does it Jake Nick Bosa and Nick Bosa? Here's here's the thing. I thought it was gonna be Ed Oliver if you'd ask me that April. I would have said at all over. But you're right Nick Bosa is now would have been on your shortlist. Absolutely. He definitely would have been and he's kind of taking a stranglehold. I would take it all of her even if they wanna put him at off ball linebacker, which some people were you head off ball over it off ball ver that's actually the group name of me in Matt in Craig's and Jake's kind of group chat for the draft drafts. And we're going to talk to Matt we're gonna talk to Craig later on funny thing is Matt. And Craig they were on our last episode of the draft show last season. We. We had them jump in and do one minute or two minute segments about prospects. So that was kind of like, I think that was like the first time all four of us were involved in something together. Shadowing something great. I guess or just all right? Just average adequate adequate draft content. That's that's what we're here for. So today what we're gonna do is. We're going to focus on the local prospects. We're gonna start our own backyard. So we're going to talk about the prospects from zuri talk about the prospects from Kansas state, Missouri and Washburn in actually we're gonna have a you said you said Missouri twice. Did you mean K you chance becoming a Missouri fan of k you football's not even real thing. I mean, it's it's struggling, but less miles is on the way up. Yeah. Missouri case state and Kansas sorry about that. We're gonna we're gonna talk about Washburn too. So Washburn has a guy new Corey Ballantyne news at the senior bowl kind of an interesting late round. Prospect. We actually have a two minute interview with him from the senior bowl. Excited about that trying to tell me happy Valentine's Day. Oh, yeah. I guess it will be the day after Ballantine's day when it was recorded though, you know, that Valentine for Ballantine it's going to be it's going to be beautiful, but let's jump into a few prospects that that I I actually have to cover and Jake has to cover. We're going to talk about some prospects that that Matt and Craig have evaluated already what we've done this year is a little bit different. When when it comes to building our valuation list in kind of ranking and grading prospects. We've all split up by positions. And so we've all kind of had primary focuses we're all gonna come back together and watch all these prospects. But we've got one primary person kind of on each individual position. So I've got quarterbacks and running backs Jake has running back or wide receivers and tight ends. And then we'll talk about what Matt and Craig are doing later, we've already got over two hundred prospects graded at this point. So we've got a lot of prospects that we've already churned through. And we've got some really cool stuff. We're gonna announce here very soon about what we're doing with that content. And we've got all kinds of different moving pieces and parts to what we've got going for draft season, aka draft miss may draft miss to all of you. Let's go ahead and talk about a Missouri. Tiger quarterback who is probably the highest graded in probably the highest draft position most likely of all the local prospects. And that's drew lock quarterback from Missouri. Drew locks been a very interesting evaluation for me, Jay. Because when I first started watching him I watched some of his early season tape, and I came away extremely underwhelms. I thought he was a Radic. I thought he was inconsistent with his accuracy. I thought he tried to get cute with his McCain IX. And then as the season kind of moved along we started to see more out of them. We started to see control of the ball at all three levels of the field. A little. Bit of creativity with with how he's moving in the pocket how he's finding plays in and some intriguing traits. You know, you saw a lot of those traits that were with him all the time. But he really kind of started tap into a little bit more. I started to be a little bit more impressed. What do you think about drew lock? I think it's interesting because you talk about the drew lock throughout the season of last year to this year as well. And I think last year there was some kind of buzz about him coming out towards the end of his junior year. And so that was really interesting just because I thought people were kind of excited about him at that point. And I think it's kind of the same case because you came on strong towards the end of this season. And I think like you just alluded to basically the same thing with this season. So what drew lock or you getting? I don't know. I think that's the question. But I think he's a tools guide, obviously, you've studied him more than I have just looking at him from like a baseline. He's he's got the right size. He's got actually pretty good arm talent as far as just being able to throw from different platforms Jiang's like that. But. But I think he's a risky risky guys. Take a chance on. So obviously, we'll probably go top ten. He's got the tools. He's got the intangibles people are gonna swing for the fences on him. How do you think you'd finish? The can't. I I don't think we need to worry about how he would fit the chiefs anymore because homes are quarterback. And this this time a year ago. I would have been trying to talk myself in a lot of these guys as believing right now currently as we sit I've got a third around grade on drew lock. I mean from a from a perspective of a quarterback position. Third around grade goes in round one a lot of the times too. Because you know, it is hard to kind of get these guys. And if you think he has a chance to be a starter. He's around one quarterback he has a chance to be a starter there. Still a lot of things I have questions about with him. I want to see him be more consistent. I wanna see him. Execute those easy throws. But that's a guy. I mean, he's he's going to go in the top ten where would you put him just as far as physical tools at EPA quarterback position this class? I mean, Kyle Moore's got more physical tools. It's just different Dwayne Haskins. I I don't say think he's got the same physical tools. But I think he has any of them Daniel Jones. Drew lock has more more tools than than Daniel Jones. So I mean, he's got tools. I think he's got a long way to would you rank drew locking last year's class very far down. I mean, he would have been QB. I I I like Josh Allen better than I like behind the Lamar Jackson. No he'd be higher than Lamar probably behind Josh Allen in front of Jackson. Yeah. Around around where Lamar Jackson where I had Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson went round one running back from Kansas state. Alex barnes. Here's another guy that I've been the primary greater on. And I kind of went on Twitter and kind of ask them people just kind of get an idea from K state fans what they thought Alex Barnes was from a draft grade perspective just kind of curious to see what they thought a lot around four round five. I got around three. I I'll be honest with you guys. I have a undrafted draftable grade. I have a. Fringe around seven priority free agent grades. So here's the thing about Alex points. I think what you see is what you get. I think he's a physical runner. I think he's got a little bit long speed for a guy his size. I don't think he has any real lateral quickness to make people miss. I have some vision questions about him. I don't think that he's a guy that you're going to be able to trust in the passing game have some pass protection questions about him too. At times, I think he just kinda into inconsistent there. But I think he could be a really solid special teamer. You know, I think that's a guy that there's there's some interesting qualities about him as a football player. I just don't know if he's dynamic enough as a running back to really hold any value in this league. Yeah. And there's a term that a lot of people are probably familiar with. We'll call this scouting term the week Jag. Like he would be a Jacksonville. Jacksonville Jaguar Jackson. He's just he's just a guy and in this draft class. He he's a fine player. Like, I don't get me wrong. He's a fine player, but the devaluation of the running back position as a whole is gonna push him down. But then on top of that there is this a good running back class. There's about there's about ten guys that I really like probably that you could take between rounds two and six out Barnes isn't one of those guys. And I talk about guys that maybe when I when I say guys, I like I mean guys that I think could come in. In and and maybe even be a one or two on an NFL team. And I don't think Alex Barnes is that guy. Alex Barnes is your starting running back. You you're in trouble. You know, I think like you said he could be a good special teamer. But so a lot of those guys in that position in that capacity. So I just don't know. I think Barnes a guy that would be willing to play special teams to when you watch him. You can tell that there's some football character to him as a player in the way in the style, which he plays. So I mean that is a guy that could make his way on the team like that. And what's interesting with him. She's coming out his junior year. And so he coulda went back for his senior year. But with the running back position can do you think he would have do you think you would have increased his dress doc by going back for one more year? Yeah, we were talking about this earlier. I don't think so I, you know, I don't you know, I it's a guy that there's really not much left to he can show. He kind of is what he is. And so that might be a guy keeps them tread on those tires for the next for the next opportunity. Whether it's the NFL or whether. It's with my Orlando Apollo's, we'll find out but hotshots. No, no, Orlando, Paul TD the running back position. All right. We're gonna move onto a receiver from zuri Emmanuel hall, Jake. You're the primary greater on them. What did you see from Emmanuel hall guy? Believe was getting some senior bowl interest or might even got invited. And then wound up moving on. Yes. So he was someone that I was actually really excited to see this senior bowl because right now I have like a fourth fifth round grade on him. And I feel like a lot of people are gonna think that's low. But let me explain myself one. He got hurt his senior year. And I think he's he's a kind of a toll frail looking guy. So there are some injury concerns, and how you hold up at the next level in general. But really I mean with these Mizzou guys I don't ever love the way they've been developed coming out just because they they don't really run a full route tree there when if you ask him to do anything vertically, he's fine. But what really really bugs me about Emmanuel hall is just to kind of go with that slight frame. I just don't think he can survive on the outside as he is right now because. When you watch him try to get off the line of scrimmage. There are times we're wide receivers. They need to assess the need to kind of play behind their pads and use their hands to not let corners get their hands into their chest. And he is a guy that comes off the line of scrimmage, and almost like sticks his chest out and just gives corners, a huge target to get their hands on him into really redirect him. So pretty much anything besides a vertical route he really struggles with. So I I like him to agree to a degree. But I don't think he is as ready as some people might think he is. I think he's got this. He's got the size to to kind of be a high point type player. But when you watch him he kinda likes to basket catch everything to so he kind of lets the bog into his body a little bit too much. Now, that's what I don't like about him. But there are certainly things that I do like about him. I think Emmanuel hall like already mentioned he he's a long guy. And he's he's a long strider two. He eats up cushion in a hurry lie that kind of goes. Along with what I talked about his vertical routes. He's he's pretty proficient like with a like a seven or nine on his route tree according ago. Yes. But that's, but that's basically his anything anything horizontally, I didn't love. He does a decent job with his hands though, actually to create separation like on that on that on that go route. And what I mean by that is a lot of a lot of a lot of corners to keep their hands on you as you as you run down the field. He doesn't nice job of making sure corners keep his hands off of him as he's running at full speed. He's got a pretty nice speed cut. He's a pre smooth athlete when you can get into his cuts vertically. But I think the biggest thing that I like about him is I do like he's ability in his his his body control. Looks pretty nice. It's got a good flexibility. But right now just with him. He he's probably a higher upside guy that I think should be there in the fourth or fifth round. Now that could change you know, he could come out and run really fast at the combine. But. This is also a really deep class at the water Seaver position as well. So as I watched louder these wide receivers, I'm almost the more. I get into the more. I'm almost like biased with myself could this. No, this can't be another top one hundred graded doing this wrong. There's these receivers all seemed good and Emmanuel hall just didn't give me that vibe. Like a lot of the other guys did. So that's kind of why he got pushed down as well. Because it's tough sometimes to great these guys in vacuum. And I know that's what you wanna do. But when you're watching them back to back over and over again, you almost kind of start to to to put them in positions. And I saw that's why in my head the fourth and fifth round is where I would be comfortable taking a manual hall. But that's just me. So Jake one kind of follow up to that. You know, you talk about how deep wide receiver classes, and I do agree with you. There's a lot of dudes. They're kind of in that mid round range. Emmanuel hall sitting there in the in the fifth round. Is he value as he value? Yeah. For the chiefs at the chiefs wanted to pursue a wide receiver to develop as he guy that you think that they should you know, look to develop in day three. Yeah. Absolutely. I think he's a guy that could come in and actually fit what they do pretty well just because he's got to have Rickel speed. And obviously with the guy like Pat, Mahomes, you can throw the ball all over the field. He's going to he's going to have to develop. I know. Okay. So say, yes. And no because I don't know if you can play that slot positioning. I know that could be something that she's kind of looking for this off season is is kind of that guy that can come in right away and play the slot. Then maybe eventually move outside. I don't know if you can do that he scenes more like an outside receiver, and that's because his underneath routes aren't really proficient yet. And that's probably something you're gonna want more in your slot receiver, but in the fifth round, I think he'd be of great value for the I think he's a more than would be more than a welcome addition as developmental type guy. I think he's a more refined. What's his face Robinson? Who might the Marcus? Yeah. I think he's because you know, we've talked about DeMarcus at lane and how he's kinda just a free style type runner. I think I think halls a little bit more refined stretch it can operate an structure a little bit better. But when you're saying fifth round a lot of people think that draft ends after four rounds. So yeah, he he'd be value there in the fifth round for sure. So he's definitely got to keep a look out for just. Keep an eye on 'em. See how he does it. The combine we're going to bring on here in a minute to talk about some tackles. We're gonna talk about some defensive lineman. It's gonna be interesting. We'll get to that right now. And we are joined by Maddie lane. Find him on Twitter at chief in Carolina. I've been reminiscing Mattie, you know, we I think this was your first kind of exposure to our podcast and stuff all that stuff back in. What was it may the last episode of the draft show from last year, you actually jumped on and gave us a take about brilliant speaks? Yeah. I sat in my car, and I recorded myself talking about thirty eight times until it sounded right voice wasn't so high pitched like it, always comes across in recordings. And since you're a nice Bruin speaks take which I feel from what we saw is pretty accurate. I think he were nicer on brillant speaks the than what the reality pander to the fans a little bit. Yeah. Just come out and say he's a trash can like so would do yet. The photo thing is like I think we all got richt over the coals for our brilliant. Brilliant speaks. Takes last year. But boy, he did not look like a second round pick to me. I don't know about you. And I I mean, he'll be he'll be better with with Spag Nolan a strong side defensive end. But like there's still some concerns there. Yeah. He's going to be in a better spot for him to succeed. But even so we talked about plenty over the off season. Everyone speaks becomes everything that it looks like he can't be is that still worth a trade up into the second round pick a run. I defender note the answers. Exactly, okay. So we're we're we're talking about local prospects today a wanted to go over three guys that you have been the primary greater on. We'll start with duller is ner tackle guard from Kansas state senior bowl invitee. We got to see him play. What'd you think about Rx is ner? So I liked donors prisoner his games, very clean. He's a good prospect. He tries hard. There's lots of like about him. And he's seems like a great person every. Interviewer interaction you had with somebody down senior the senior bowl week or heard from had a great time talking to him. So he's got everything going for him. Except for me when I turn on the film. I just don't see an offense of tackle. And the crazy part is he fits all the links and size measurements. I think you'll fit any athletic testing requirements. You won't have an offensive tackle. He just seems to struggle so much with length on the edge that you're gonna be better off kicking him inside the guard. And it's not even a bad thing. He's going to be a fantastic guard at the next level. You're just he struggles with links on the outside. So I still gave them a second round grade. I still like him as a player a ton. I'm just not sure I see him sticking it oftens tackle in the NFL. Whether or not you try them, they're not it's kind of be up to the team who takes him. So he went up against a long edge rusher in Montas wet against Mississippi State earlier in the season. What did what did you see from from that game in particular against a guy? That's probably going to go in the top forty. Yeah. And that was that's the first one that kinda started off you just see the sweat continuously got his hands into Dalton listeners chest before is ner got his hands into him. And it's not the end of the world, if you know how to recover but risen seem to struggle a little bit with recovering from that. There's a few times where sweat was able to get leverage get up underneath risoners pads. And then he had full control of the entire less of the pass rush and outside that game. You don't get a whole lot of good pass rush when you're playing in the big twelve especially can Awang athletic edges. So you didn't really get to see it again till the senior bowl week where it was more of the same risen looked a little bit better. They're handling it. But it was still much the same. You have an athletic Wong edge rusher on the outside. And when they get their hands Dalton prisoner. He just struggles the mirror and stay in front of them. And it's just something that he struggled with despite having all the links would ask the position a big thing is he opens his hips real early to try to get up the arc rather than staying with his but facing the quarterback, more or less. He opens his hips up. Where he's more facing the other offense tackle with his. But and that's just not what you want to see off tackle. Then you're kind of looking like Garrett Bowles out there. Garrett Bowles wonderful. Let's talk about the defensive line couple of local prospects. Terry Beck ner junior from zuri. Wasn't. He getting some senior bowl looks potentially as well before winding up there. Yeah. I don't remember. If he didn't get an invite due to small injury or something like that. Or he just simply wasn't invited. He should've been he very much deserve to be there. It's a strong defensive line class. So I understand why there isn't space for him. But he's a pretty good player. I do have some concerns with him. I think that like a lot of Missouri defensive lineman coming out recently. He just doesn't have the most explosive hands. And when you play out on the edge. I think people are able to look past it when you're on the interior. You can't have soft hands. He's plenty strong. When he decides the bull rush somebody. He can hit somebody and drive them backwards. Move them off his body, but his hands just don't make any impact when he hits arms or offense of lineman's body most of the time, and it's just kind of this week hand thing just does. Do it for me for an interior defensive lineman. But he's got good athleticism. So I'm interested to see how it tests he could really climb up some boards if he tests. Well, I'm just not sure if it's going to be enough in this kind of defensive class, so what kind of round valuation. Are we looking at right now with him? I got him in the early day three right now. And it's kind of one of the spots where I think I thought testing's going to be huge for him. Whether he stepping up into that third round range or he's going to stay there and round four maybe even slide around five if you tests is stiff as he looks on someplace he is really good arm overpass. I and he's hitting this move. He looks like a great player you easily looks like a day to player problem is you can't find a highlight pass rush of him without finding the arm over. I struggled to find more than one move that he was able to win with on any sort of consistent basis. So that's kind of where my big worry allies. Yeah. And that's just not sustainable at the next level. You've got to have a better plan in more to work with. When when the competition gets the it is, okay. One other defensive line prospect in probably the only Kansas defender really worth talking about. With great length. Daniel lies defensive lineman attic, Kansas. What did you think about him? So Daniel is is a guy I'm still working to find a little bit more film on. So I kinda got an early start on him. But I really like his game. He's got a little bit more of a compact frame than some of these other guys you're going to see and talk about this year. But he does have these powerful hands his hands kind of explode into blockers body hit their arms. He's got a good first step. He's pretty linear as an athlete goes. But that's going to be all right on the interior it. He's played up and down that defensive line. So I really like what I see out of them. I think you still have a lot of work to do. He's pretty raw. That's should be expected kinda coming out of Kansas. They're still getting that football program on its feet again and trying to teach people how to play football. So he's getting there. I really like like I said his hands coming out at stance. He gets them into players bodies. He plays low. There's a couple of plays against Oklahoma. And I believe this last year, actually where he. Took onto three offense one. But at one place they tried to pass them onto somebody else. But he got the better of every single gauge of it just because of how powerful has hands aren't how he keeps them. Nice and tight body. Yeah. Thank you for not slandering jayhawks too much for me, buddy. I mean that was very mild compared to the things that you normally normally shoot at us. Okay, mattie. I wanted to ask you just gimme one player that you've watched recently, that's really caught your attention. So there's a lot of guys. But I think we're gonna have to start with Christian Miller. And the big reason is I kinda went in expecting him to be this very tools -i bendy pass rusher. Because that was kind of what his was labeled as and he definitely is that his net selling that's Christian Milorad, Alabama. Is that correct? Correct. At alabama. We're still getting used to this. I'll have to remember to say colleges and stuff like that for everybody. It's over forty seven. But it's all right. He's he's a fast rusher. That's a selling point. And so that's kind of what I wouldn't. Affecting as a part time third-down edge rusher. That's not what he was Alabama with. He was a guy that played on first downs against runs and second downs. And then as well as third downs. He's kind of a situational player, but it's not a specific situation. He's just I guess more rotational, but his overall game was a lot better than I thought it was he dropped into coverage a little bit he kicked out into flats against some passes. He was able to play the role in really, well, he dominated tight ends. He was throwing tight ends left. And right when he played against Missouri out of his way to make plays against the run. So guys that are fans that are looking for a guy in the early rounds to be kind of dominant Sam linebacker for the chiefs. He's a guy that you could look at if you think that chiefs are going to address the position with the kind of a heavy value rather than waiting for more of a just another guy. Jag later in the draft. So Christian Miller great pass rusher. He can bend. He's got all sorts of pass rush moves. I think people are going to be surprising him at the combine just the way he moves because this is the kind of guy that they say the old phrase, you can run under a table. He definitely. Can run under a table because his ankles have the most insane ankle election this draft almost that I've seen out of anybody. I agree with that. I saw some clips with him recently funny that you use the Jag term Jake actually drop that as the term of the week with earlier in the show. So that's perfect. I'm disappointed that I don't get here. Jake's voice, the better looking of the hosts was podcast while we near now. And as far as I know it has not been confirmed that Jason Jay hawk fan. So he's already to up on you. Yeah. Jigs of bison fan. So you know, an eastern stick. I had to watch his his quarterback at North Dakota state yesterday. Good. Okay. Well, we'll catch you next week on the show. And then I'll see you on the lab here in a couple days. Sounds good, bud. You guys have fun with the wild rest unites. Get some tape done. We are joined by Craig stout fund. Amman Witter at barley hop. Craig? I was reminiscent with Jake earlier. We all the last time. We did a draft show all four of us were actually on it because we had you and Matty do do little sound bytes for the last episode. Yeah. No, I've been waiting for an invite ever since. But sure wouldn't allow me to come back on this show for some reason it's been almost a year. Wow. And I didn't realize it was that bad. You're just you're just terrible at night, you should feel better. We just haven't done address show since then. So have you not paying? So we've been doing I've been doing this podcast with these two guys both of them like one of them's really tall. And like is apparently just like I I think he's a rocket scientists. And I think he also like has like a he owns a restaurant. Probably I think he he's into gold mining like he's just he's just like this man of many talents. He sounds like a prospect. He's got this. Great prospect your impression, it's fantastic. So fantastic. Testing David Johnson. Actually heard the reason you were invited back because you're puns weren't good enough. That's true. Oh, definitely the case. I can't keep up with you guys when you get going on the phones. No, there's there's no chance at all of. Okay. So Craig you are responsible for off ball linebackers. You're responsible for the cornerback position. Those are your two primary grade greater the you're the primary greater form. And there was three local prospects that fit that mold. First one. Let's talk about Tarez hall the linebacker from zuri. Tell me a little bit about him truce halls six to two thirty off ball guy. Very high energy guy. He he's got some range to him. He's not a big tackle collector in that defense. He lodged five saxes years of Blitzer. So we really kind of developed as a blitz or a little bit not great and coverage, but he does kind of fits her this new style quicker faster little smaller linebacker that maybe doesn't stack and shed so well, but can get out there and run with running backs run out the off ball in the second level a little bit better than your traditional bigger, bulkier linebackers. So if he was to be drafted by the chiefs, would he be more of a will? I think he would be more of a will. He be a guy that they take late. Definitely a guy that would be a specialty. I can see them being a very good special teamer. Actually, he's got the speed for it. And everything like that. So yeah. Yeah. But he would definitely be a will. So I heard today, and I think it was deigned burglar that said he was watching inside linebacker or off ball linebackers. And after the first three guys he said, it's pretty much slim picking is have you found that to be kind of accurate so far. Oh, man. You know, we we've had Kent complaining a lot of the he's had to review and how he's not a big fan of a lot of them. Decisions and you don't even need one of them. We have Patrick Mahomes. So I'm sitting here wasting all my time. So we can watch and grade twenty-five quarterbacks like come on awful. Yeah. After those first three is slim pick, it falls off a GI int- cliff. So I'm hoping to find a couple of diamonds in the roofs that could be maybe round three guys. But right now, it's not much. So at the bottom of that cliff is a linebacker from Kansas. Joe deneen, Craig we're both have K you fandom, and we're both here. Just not fans of Joe deneen is draft prospect. Yeah. I'm not a big fan of Joe deneen. He plays the game kinda like a traditional linebacker that. I just described and bogere broader kind of guy tries to just run through offense of lineman. He collected a lot of tackles had twenty two and a half tackles for loss last year and twenty seventeen he was a big tackle guy. He just has zero range zero lateral mobility. He wouldn't be a great guy to add to this team. Here's the funny thing about deneen. I think he's like around two thirty like a big God. No. But it shocked me I turned on the tape. And I was like, okay. This guy, you know, two hundred and fifty pounds easy. He moves a little bit like a bus. Just like he's two hundred and fifty pounds, easy and everything like that. And then I I read they was about two thirty to thirty five and I went, okay. So that's interesting that he doesn't have the sized really play with that. I said he he collects a lot of tackles and a lot of tackles for loss in that system. But we all know that k us defense is nothing to write home about. So the fact that he was the leading tackler on that team. Well, a whole lot. I'm just gonna I'm gonna this is gonna be a teaser for the future. But K used best defensive player actually might have been playing tight end for tennis last year, just teasers I'm not gonna get into that too much. But that'll be for another episode. David beatty. I I might go off on that episode. Craig one more guy. I wanted to ask you about the guy we all saw at the senior bowl. I actually got to interview him. We're gonna play that interview here after we get done with you. Cory Ballantyne cornerback from division to Washburn. There's really not much out there on tape of him. But what did you see from him in the senior bowl that was long and bigger? He's six foot about two four. So he he's got good size on him. And he's well proportion. It's not like he's lanky. He's not very high cut. He's well proportioned he showed up in day one. And he played like a guide that was terrified to be playing with division one football players. He was he was just very tentative very slow to react. And so we kind of wrote them off a little bit and the day to day three he showed better, then guys like Kris Boyd that have gotten all this all this buzz. Guys, like Johnson creek. That's that's not that's not hard and say. And say alert we like Chris Boyd kid. Johnson is a guy that came in with a lot of hype. I thought Corey Balentine living better than him on day to day three. He's a longer guy. He's a guy that I think is going to be like around six round seven guy, and depending on what he runs he might go. A little earlier Washburn. Got a kid that's going to get drafted. Yeah. I agree. He was a guy that definitely got better as the whole thing went on. And I I was very impressed with him. Craig? We'll be checking in with you, obviously every week on this show. We got a lot of cool stuff. We're looking forward to one thing. I wanted to ask you real quick, though, one guy that you've watched recently that has kind of stood out to use them. And maybe that we're not talking too much about. But that's really kind of impressed. You recently. Monterey hearted. I have been about him for about twenty four hours. Now, I said and his tape last night for northwestern. He jumped off the screen I'd kind of written off the rest of the corners that had left on my list. And he just was great. You really was great. He's got a full toolbox. Five eleven one eighty-seven. He's got great feet. He's got fluid enough hips. He's good in men coverage. He's very smart cornerback his he just doesn't have long speed. If you keep a safety over the top. He's the guy that I think it contribute immediately. And he's a guy that nobody's talking about. Like people have him down to thirty to forty ranges. Matt Miller hasn't like two thirty six right now. So I think he's a guy that after the combine comes and some people watch the more tape. He's going to move way way way up right now, he is inside my top ten corner. Checks in this class. So okay, I am a big fan of him right now. So if he does wind up not climbing up that board you're thinking if we've talked about this if the chiefs decide to double dip corner, and maybe he's their round five or you pull the trigger for. No, I'm absolutely pulling the trigger. I'm trading up around five to go get him. I love this kid. I think he's got a big NFL future. That's Craig stout. We will talk to him next week. Thanks for thanks for coming on Craig. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Craig Mattie for jumping on with us. You're going to hear from them every week. They're going to join me in Jake every single week on this show wanted to jump into a quick two minute interview that I had with Corey Ballantyne of Washburn at the senior bowl take a look at this really interesting, dude. I'm definitely rooting for him after listening to it. A little while since your last game. What has the process being for you with your preparation? What is was it was last couple of weeks? Look like the last couple of weeks. I've been training. I know initially. I started the season at one ninety in the end of the season about one eighty three and just been trying to get my nutrition Reich in my weight backup. So it gets playing weight. And also, you know, Washington getting good mental reps on woods. And so I'm not too out of it when I Aaron practice, and then I mean, just try not to let the atmospheric it at the best soaking it all in a division two and being thrown into all of this nudity. So just trying to enjoy myself. What technically is a what's been one of your focus is leading up to the technical aspect. What's your technical aspect? I think pressing pressing technique on my technique. Sometimes I get out of my frame, I've been working on trying to drills to stay in my frame making clean breaks and being explosive out in my break. I think is what? Have you had a chance to talk with cheese yet? I have not I talked to them. I mean when scout came my school of Moscow, but not recently, what would it be like to play for the chiefs? You may be amazing especially being that close to home a lot of friends a lot of families there. I would definitely love the opportunity and it's a great team. Great of her great organization. So to be part of the team are you from the area, I've been to certain si- woods since I moved to America. I moved here when I was six. Move states speaking been there. So you grow you grew up into. That's awesome. That's cool. And you went to went to the hometown school, right? That I mean a lot of local guys that I knew. My parents were fifteen minutes away from my house. So whenever I wanted to, you know, go home and family. I was always you new to America where where where are usually. I was born in make me, and my mom moved here when I was six thousand one. She married. My stepdad they've been gone for years now. So do have you followed that she's your whole life is I've been a team you followed or you fall someone else, I don't necessarily I don't necessarily have a favorite. I kind of watch. Whatever is on. I just like football. I like certain players in their attitudes have been like Marcus feeder eaters on the chiefs. And I was watching him with us there. But I do enjoy the sight watching the game this weekend too. So whenever they're on try to catch a game. But I don't necessarily favorite. That was a fun interview. With Corey Ballantyne. Thanks to him for taking the time to talk to us over at the senior bowl that was a really cool experience. He gets talk to learn about him a little bit Jake. I want to go ahead and talk about one prospect each that has kind of stood out to you recently for you who some guy that you watched and recently that it's kind of really grabbed your attention. Some you're really interested in. So my guy is a lot of new film came out on him recently. He someone that's been on our radar since the senior bowl. He kind of jumped out really he jumped out there. But there wasn't a ton of tape on him until I think you kind of started to some people and that's Trayvon west co-, the tight in h back fullback from West Virginia. I really like this guy. He the first thing that stood up to big. He is he's he's a legit. I think he weighed in six three over two seventy at this senior bowl, and I had one game that I. Watched him going into this senior bowl. And he was all right. His tape. Is is just all right. I'll be honest. But the way he moved at the senior bowl. He he's an exciting guy that I think, especially when you talk about how does he fit with the chiefs specifically, I think he'd be a really fun like move tied in h back guy because he's massive. But at the senior bowl he really showed that he can move pretty well. And when you watch tape, I think some of it just might have been what they are asking him to do at West Virginia he lined up in the backfield quite a bit. He is a he's an absolute kill shot blocker as a fullback, which is fun. But not always a fact if so that's something that he kind of needs to pick and choose with that because he wants to Knox. He wants to knock you into next Tuesday. He's he misses sometimes any wis. But what I thought was really impressive at the senior bowl was like I said his ability to get into routes and his explosiveness in and out of his brakes for guy, that's two seventy. So if you could get him especially into the chiefs offense, he just be another mismatch nightmare. I think he's got a really large catch radius. He's he's got good hands. And he's actually like showed some explosive ability. He's got to kind of look for it. After after the senior bowl. And that's what was really cool about going to the senior bowl. And seeing these guys live is you get to see stuff live that doesn't necessarily show up on tape or doesn't jump out on tape. But then you go back and watch. And you say, oh, no. That was always there. That was always there. He's always had that. But Trayvon west go is a guy that I think would be just a great utility knife for the chiefs just a guy that they could make it split out wide. He I mean, he really is. He's probably the best H back in this class. And he's a true h back 'cause he came line up in the backfield. He can line up. I mean, they split him out wide to a little bit. So he's a guy that I think would just be a really fun fit for the chiefs because hashtag score one hundred. Yeah, you're you're kind of on this hype train where you just wanted to choose to go in all all in on kind of. I would take decay Metcalf in the first round the chiefs and not and not even care. What you fans think fits you. Don't need a defense score under. One thing that you kind of mentioned about westcote, you know, Anthony sherman's and unrestricted free agent. Yes. Couple days ago me and Craig in Mattie, kind of put together a plan for what we would do on the on the roster for the chiefs, and we kept re-signing Sherman, kind of reluctantly for two million dollars. I think he's kind of locked room guy. He's a solid special team a good fullback. But it would be interesting to add a guy like west go to play that fullback role be a little bit more dynamic. There was times when Anthony Sherman was tied in three lined up in line on the with with Kelsey and Harris. So it's like, I don't know. Maybe maybe a guy like west go could solve some of those problems be a little bit more dynamic as a fullback. It'd be an interesting at and I think you would be giving up a little bit as far as pure fullback with west co- because Anthony Sherman is I mean, he's a good fullback. Like if you were on a guy to line up in an I formation run. Wheel route you can do all that stuff. And I don't think west goes is good of a natural blocker as Sherman. But I think he could add a lot more just different dimensions to that. She softens that Sherman. Just can't so guy that I've kind of been interested in and notice lately that really stood out to me is a safety from Mississippi State Jonathan Abram. So I in early Abram was a guy that was initially going to be at the senior bowl. And so what we did in our processes? We got out ahead of all the senior bowl prospects. And those are the guys we prioritize when we were watching in grading, I washed his two thousand seventeen tape in. It was it was bad. He could not tackle. He looked stiff. He struggled in coverage. He he lacked a little bit of discipline. And I I went and watched some of his two thousand eighteen tape recently came back to him. And I it was a night. It was night and day compared to what he was a year ago, and you like to see that you like to see guys get better. He played with incredible energy. He played against Iowa late in the season. Believe is their game. And he set the tone early. He chucked TJ Hopkinson. No, he didn't. That. Yeah. Whatever I don't care and look Jayhawk Hawkins gonna get talked about a lot here in this show. But I thought I thought Abrahams was a guy that he set the tone physical. He's played with energy. He was all over the field early in the game. And you know, I think his tackling improved. I think he's able to deliver. I was impressed with some of his ability in coverage. I thought he showed a lot of growth dropping underneath in underneath zones. He made a play on the ball and one of the games. I watch I think he had an interception guy that if the chiefs can't go out and get Landon Collins, for instance, to play that Bach safety rule Abrams is a very solid constellation for that. I'm still hung up on him Chuck in hawk. Tweet that out because I pretty sure I know what you're talking about and British. Sure TJ just kind of whiffed on a block just laid. Okay. Think think of something else? Go read tweet it because it's already on Twitter. He he dropped the shoulder though. Right. So he's a guy that had a shoulder injury. I still believe he was around doing interviews in being a part of the process, but he was just he was not medically cleared to play at the senior. This is a guy if the chiefs don't find someone that can play in the box. They move on from airi'q, Barry, if they can't go out and sign lane and college Jonathan Abrams, I have around three on them. I could see the cheese potentially using one of their round two's on him because I doubt he's there at ninety two. He's probably closer to that sixties range with chiefs have two selections. When's the last time they draft someone out of Mississippi State? That would have been believe Christopher Jones that won't work out. Yeah. The the one from old miss didn't or has. So that's going to do it for this week's episode of the AP draft show Mary draft miss to all of you. It is draft season. We are going to be here every Friday leading up to the draft. Thanks for listening. My name is Spencer home by name is Jason Kurt. My name is Ryan nanny, we combined we form the shutdown full stride. Keep telling you this forecast is heck nuclear college football podcast. But it's also a show about care disaster regional grocery stores. We love Tennessee Batman, homeowners associations bears video games. Pittsburgh Batman the hell of being drafted a group. Text unreliable legal advice. 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PMS 2.0 024 - A Poetic Thanksgiving Celebration With AJ Hawk

The Pat McAfee Show 2.0

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PMS 2.0 024 - A Poetic Thanksgiving Celebration With AJ Hawk

"Happy thanksgiving. It is November twenty second. We have a beautiful show for you today, a beautiful show, a poetic show of creativity and art people settle Billy. Shakespeare could write like a motherfucker. He ain't never heard nothing like what what's been written today. Lin-manuel miranda. We have a group of men hot on your heels today, we all wrote poems about what we're thankful. No in about our lives that we are currently living and for you to listen to on this beautiful hungover thanksgiving because I've heard last night is a large night for people to destroy their bodies with is that true. It's very true. I've never got to experience it. What I normally. I had worked or was playing on thanksgiving last year. I did not go out. But I've heard that this night is one for the ages. It's second to new years before say, yeah, right there, put it head of it. Put it head of it. Really? This is the big night because everybody's on from school. Everybody's home from work and everybody wants to see each other and see how life has been in show a little gratitude because I think thanksgiving does bring out the best in people. And so because the word thanks there is in the holiday so it sets the tone early for what it's about. And that's what our poems about later day. Nick also has some bangers for your thanksgiving holiday evening. Of course. Yes, you going. What are the tie-ins for the bangers? Well, it means obviously thanksgiving themed. Maybe it's some food. Maybe it's some family. Oh, he's keeping us guessing. Like that a lot it is all about family and friendship. I think that's what a lot of these poems are going to be about speaking of friendship. I'll be calling a broadcast this upcoming weekend on Fox Sports. What's known, Texas, Tech Baylor? Yes. With a friend of mine AJ Hawke AJ, and I had a thirty five minute discussion. 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Twenty percent off the entire store. Go check it out. We appreciate you so much. Here's the conversation. I had with Jay hawk earlier today. On the phone now is a guy who's a color commentator for Fox Sports this upcoming weekend. As the Texas Tech football team takes on the Baylor football team in Jerry world. Dallas he'll be on the call with a guy named Sean Kelly from New Orleans is play by play in standing right next to him as a. Chime in guy three man booth guy. A man who's never been to a broadcast bootcamp myself, Pat McAfee with legend on the phone AJ hawk what's up aging. Just so you know that Texas Tech red raiders against the Baylor bears. You knew that in my intro that I didn't know their name their felt like you knew that. Yeah. Yup. I tried to draw drag out the Texas Tech. So my brain would think of the name could not come up with it could not come up with football squad. I talked to you a little bit this morning about this. I'm very intrigued to see how this goes have you ever been in a three man booth before? And how do you think it goes for us? Yeah. I've been in last year. I did a decent three man boots. With Danny Keno. Do a lot of people know, and especially in the college gay man, it can be tough just because they run so many plays like an often is running eighty five ninety play that there's not a whole lot of time to try to chime in. So the three man boobs. You gotta be on the same page with each other. That's a good thing though, is you may like me, and you will find a way to make it work. We might not have a ton of time to try to jam our points into the broadcast. But I think it'll be fun. I think we'll finish each other's. These finish that sentences. You're supposed to finish my sentence. Right there. I thought we were finishing each other's sentences. Oh, no. I thought you were just about to return rate. Their see we don't have a lot of time to get the chemistry back after we didn't entire podcast last year together Sunday, you don't really talk to me much anymore. Facetime. You one time. Now, you're so busy. I tried to FaceTime. You twice yesterday. When the announcement was made both times unavailable on believable too, by the way. So I'm trying to get our chemistry back here. But you just can't finish my. Now, I'm not gonna I'm not playing your game right now. Yesterday yesterday. You catch me and say, hey, can you call into this to my seller? This was two forty eastern. I said, yeah. In the next ten minutes because I'm on Sirius XM from three until eight pm on Tuesday, straight, the longest break is a two and a half minute commercial break in for you face. Tommy like three times at three thirty four thirty. And I gotta send you a text based on the, bro. Like, do you not get it? Happening. I was trying to hijack the show to be honest. I was trying to interrupt not that I would do that on Saturday. I have a lot of respect for that booth. I have to get a new suit for the booth. I'm real excited about that. What are you wearing a suit full suit? I maybe a full suitor. I told you about my stretchy pants out like where sometimes during the broadcast. I like to take a knee for some reason. It just makes me feel good. And I can't take a knee and my suitcase outstretch AJ, how many have some type pants. I'll definitely take a knee at. You're sitting next to me. If you take a knee. I might lose my mind I want to I don't know what do we happening on the field. But they've been a turn my microphone off because I will be losing my how long are these games? Three hours four hours. They could beat yet. Oh, definitely most likely be three hours. They can run over three. But probably not. I mean, you know, the running a million plays. The problem about the college game. They you'll see the clock stops after I out just for a little bit. But it can take a long time to to run a quarter. If they're not really running the ball. And they're getting auto first downs, man. It'll it'll stretch it out. So this is three hours of an open mic for me, absolutely, man. And it's a good thing to play by play guy. Sean kelly. He'll jump in. He'll explain the play. And then the floor is ours. We used to really explore the space, and then feel we can do. I can't wait to hear your incredible football insight in there. And then me with incredible. I don't I don't know about thinking about this fat with we could possibly be like the college version of Tessa tour win in booger. Imagine that. Oh my God. Imagine if we could get to that level of greatness. What do you think you can do it? Well, I'm gonna have to pull rabbit out of my head. But I. I think you can. I mean, you're going to be up in the foot. She that's what's good too. I don't think you would have agreed to do it. If they try to put down on the field and band like the third guy as like, they they weren't builder to be an analyst. But he's on the field. He's in that Booker mobile, and that's the problem. But if we can't feed you're going to step over each other. How do you know when to speak? Well, that's what actually I got a chance to talk to a couple of those guys this weekend. And that was something they I asked the same question, and it is difficult because I guess booger can see and right because on the TV's that he has. But it can't they can't see him. It's an interesting. It's very interesting. Hopefully, they'll be able to figure it out for it to go into the future and do something. Well, but McAfee mobile I would have been all about just want to let you know, if they would've offered that. I'm all the way the fuck, and if a McAfee mobile like a little Mario Kart outing down there on the sideline. I mean that would make sense especially like, why wouldn't they spend like a hundred grand to build a McAfee mobile for a game. That's being played the exact same time as a high. Seems like a little bit of a a skewed image of what the greatest rivalry in sports is possibly because you are an Ohio State. The better one. Oh, well, why why do you have to take shots at me? Like that. I was just thinking, they're, you know, potentially other ones that are great Oklahoma, Texas is a big one, you know, that's a little let's get outside of our region. Maybe stop thinking about WVU pit. We'll come back in maybe Penn State, maybe Penn State, Ohio State, but I was state sees Michigan is more of maybe it's Duke North Carolina. Maybe it's the Washington wild things the frontier league verse the traverse city beach bums, which I actually got the play in the frontier league. You don't know what a big rivalry? Is. You have no idea. Now. I mean, I guess you're right. I need to expand. My horizons is West Virginia Pitt is that really a rivalry game for trophy backyard brawl we don't do trophies because we're real we're not fake over there. But it got to have a mountain man carrying a musket. That's okay. It's amount near you. Call these games often, and you know. I've not done it West Virginia game. That's a little bit. Above my pay grade. See wasn't always like that. When I got there whenever I was a freshman. Nobody knows we'd never won a bowl game. Nothing like that. AJ hawks in the world probably would've called our game. And then by the way, you would have done so well on ours are West Virginia team probably would've took you right up to the top. You would have been joke. Clot. Oh, hey, look at that. You know, what though I Dana Hoeger Sohn? I respect that dude. He's one of my favorite head coaches in all of college football. Hope you've had a chance to speak with them. He and I had beers one particular evening when I first met him. I haven't talked to him since then he's got that visor scarlet thing going right now. And I love the way he's coaching team. That's the thing. He you would think like if you had that scarlet like, all right? Well, obviously visors are off the table. Those are not an option within like, Nah, I like visors. I don't care. I mean, that's the best thing. When a guy owns is not scared to do food. Well, Gundy confident you got old Gundy out there and Oklahoma state. He's been marketing his he has a very full Mollet. I that thing is real Kentucky waterfall, huge business up top party in the back that thing's awesome. But Dana owning the skull it. I think it's a good recruiting tool. I think it's a it's a marketable thing. Yeah. You got to do whatever you can I guess to relate to these youngsters. There's a dude I did a Utah state game Utah states actually really good football team their offense coordinator, Pat, you guys look up sometime nervously. I'm sure you won't. But he's got really he's got long blond hair. You kinda like surface Harry's wearing shades all the time. And I think he even said like, I don't really like having long hair. But for some reason when I go into recruit, you high school kids, it's like it gives me like an end, they see me, and then another coach come in this kind of buttoned up and looks old. Even though I'm still older. They think I'm like a young dude making relate to me, and it helps me recruit kids, and I was like man, that's a genius move. I guess that's what holder Sens doing and dundy. This is definitely what they're doing. There's no way Gundy thinks that thing looks good. There's no way he thinks it looks. Here's no way. Dana like looks at this. What I've always wanted granted personally, I think the mall. It is all the way back. I've been trying to grow at my lady won't let me she took fucking scissors to it. The one time when I started growing it was a wild move. If I could do what I would do. Heartbeat. But I think it's a good marketing thing, let's talk about marketing little bit. What do we need to do to get thrusted right in Thursday night football this weekend? Is there any way we potentially just get moved up the ranks next week. Oh, so we go from calling the Saturday college game to Thursday night, primetime NFL game to take Joe and Troy's job. Yeah. I mean, if anybody can do it, we can do it that what it really think. So what do we have? With your ground swell of support of all of your loyal fans. Love everything about you, say coz Cozzi all the time and sound like deuce bags of their parents and friends. I think we have a good chance. I don't know. What do you think? What are you going to? I think a lot of things after what he just said. I think you need. You know, the is Pat for the game you ever heard that board speaking on board with this conversation because all you're doing is just taking a bunch of bullshit shots at my people. Listen here Kuzma for her. Hold on. I want to take any shot that your people. I was saying because their parents don't understand maybe the world that they're living in this, Pat McAfee. World they're not they can't relate to their young. We can different languages what a spin zone that was that you just call me and my peoples deuce bag there you did it. I heard it right there. Okay. That's how you wanna take you years. I can't offend you. You have to be you yourself offended. It's unbelievable. Why am kind of offended? I don't know what a Boorda's though. I have no idea. What aboard is that's like a microphone board where I can like mute the the play by play guy chop chop in is that what you're talking about. Well, you do have like a cough button. And it talked back that you can talk to your producer. But no the boards like the the two deep dates you hold it. So you can Tennessee has everybody's number has little you can write a bunch of stuff on it. Oh, I've seen those. I don't do notes. Normally. My thing is no nuts. You ever see me on TV airmail says paper in front no notes for me. No. You don't need notes. I'm not saying he notes, but I could print you out an extra board and bring it if you want I gotta go to kinko's again. But it has a numbers guy. The ball. You're trying to watch replay. And you don't know who's the guy is obviously you just look down your board. You see? Okay. And we're fifty six that's the right guard, and you can say his name identify people. It's like a coach's play sheet a call sheet. Yeah. It's basically like a cost you just has it as positions on offense defense and the too deep. So, you know, who you're talking about it you want to say something about a certain player you get his name. Right. And you know, you you're not just guessing. Yeah. Probably knew was is kinko's still up. And you think you make a run over to kinkos still make that happen. I should be able to get you get one before. I I leave town here. Friday morning. I bring you on. Yeah. You know, the Centaur painting is still operate behind me. And my studio is still out. And I've seen what I've seen other stuff that looks like he got moved maybe out of it's not in the same position. No, it is it's in the same spot. It's right behind me. And we're actually selling merchant within on it this today the merchandise that we have a whole new line emerge, by the way up for sale stored up show dot com. Twenty percent off everything until Monday at seven pm. If we sell twenty five thousand items, somebody will get a four the brand brand AJ. But yeah, the Centaurs right behind me starts, the one of the greatest gifts I've ever received. I'm glad that. It's it's still up. Yeah. Believe me. I think the when I asked my buddy to commission that and told him exactly what I wanted. I feel like he emailed it. It's pretty spot on. And I feel like you you and body all that is that Centaur now my God, you call me douchebag just a little bit ago. But now, you're motivating me, this is a pretty crazy little roller coaster of emotions over friendship here. I can't wait to get in a booth with you. Yeah. I don't know. How do you? How do you? See it going. It's gonna be fun. I brother actually, my oldest brother text me pink last night. He said, oh, hey, that's awesome. Have you done a game with Pat before? And I said I don't think pats done a game. What do you mean? Like, I have you ever done any kind of. I know you've been you. You do TV over the place you do wrestling. But have you ever called a game? They would today didn't accept me for that broadcast boot camp that you all go to all these players that do the broadcast of of games and on TV in other panels. They actually did not accept my resume to get in. I've been I've applied numerous times and got rejected numerous times. So they don't even let me in there. So I have no no teach tape. No, nothing nothing at all. Except for what I see every single weekend. When I watch football games and listened to what each person saying I tried to do a little bit research. There's a lot of really terrible ones. I try not to learn from. But they'll good ones. I tried to chime in with. But there's not a lot of good three man boots. There's a lot of terrible three man booth. So I don't really I think I'm just gonna. Trying to find my own lane. I'll they back a little bit. Let the smart football guy talk. Call my people douchebag let the play by play kinda run his thing. And then I'll just kind of I'll pipe in like a sniper whenever there needs to be a heater every once in a while. No. I think you're going to be awesome. Trust me. The broadcast boot camp that doesn't do anything to help you calling games. You do a real real little bit talking about actually being a code analyst per game. It's more on like every other aspect of broadcasting. But the only way to get better calling games to call games. Just do it need reps in. But with you, though, you're such a unique guys that I think that's what people want. They don't want you to try to be. Yeah. Rex Ryan like when you first got on TV, he tried to be like a TV guy. Like, no, we want you to be Rex like be who you are on your your press conferences, be Brexit. Don't try to be buttoned up and all that. And so you've done enough TV though, you know, what you're doing nothing. That's why box what you to do the game. That's what I'm glad. I get to be the the guy sharing the booths with you. And that was really cute there. I thank you. For those kind words, I will say this though, I'm pretty solid being me in most situations in order. I mean, I mean there was a couple handshake kiss. The ring situations I had to do in LA where. I wasn't fully me. And it was kind of uncomfortable. I had to complement people that I didn't want to compliment you get it. All right. But when I did on this particular weekend in that booth. I'm really excited to let her fly. I'm real excited to let her fly. See what comes out of my mouth. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing too. Especially working for FOX FOX values personalities over anything else. I feel like there's other thing about like CBS more like old school buttoned up ESPN. There is a little bit of both maybe, but I feel like FOX out of all the networks, and especially people calling the games they like people are personalities look at the number one crew. Gus Gus is the most electoral sizable crazy play by play guy play by play guy that usually just right down the middle. Just presenting the facts, basically, and gust is awesome. So that's what FOX life. So that's why they they want you to do this game. Do you know this this play by play guy at all? I do not I've never done a worked with a lot of different guys. I know he he works for what the pelicans the basketball squad. And also the saints. I think he does some stuff for the saints to he's he's done the by dire. He'll be awesome. And he will. I'm sure he's he's pumped. We'll talk to you. I'm gonna talk to them later this afternoon on the conference call with Texas Tech coach is I don't know if you're jumping onto not, but we'll get to speak with them. And then we'll get to hang out with them Friday before the game. And it I'm sure he's excited to different. I definitely I'm sure different than any booth. He has ever had for football game having myself in you there next to them. I can't wait for that conference. Call. I what time is eating. Four thirty eastern new send you an Email with dial in information. Are you really gonna join? Yeah. Of course, I've been planning for this conference. Call day who were talking to. The Texas Tech and what's their what's their team name? What are they? What are they don't war raiders merry go? Yup. Texas Tech war raiders. The red raiders, dude. Reckon I already know their hashtag their whole thing. We're talking to we're talking to all of the Texas Tech were raiders. Okay. Four thirty all of them every player every coach can be a while. Is that serious right now is it like FaceTime. Or is it? No, we'll talk to their head coach cliff Kingsbury Gibbs and and Kevin Johnson Owen d coordinators. What are you going to ask them? Just so I know going in what type of questions I should have ready to ask. Honestly, I I wanted to ask I might ask cliff. I'd click on my podcast couple of years ago. And he was awesome. I wanna know I might ask cliff cliff? So do you have any idea about this cruise broadcasting your game that you're trying to become bowl eligible and the shenanigans that are going to be happening up in the booth through your time when you're trying to hang onto your job and justify keeping your gig as your dream job. I wanna see when he says that and I'll follow up cliff. Is there anything you'd like me to say during the broadcast, and maybe a booster as listening or watching that might save your job follow up? Hey for real for. Honestly, he would love it. I mean, you don't have to say to save your job. But just say like, yeah. What? Yeah. That's honestly, do it. That's all they care about like, the good, the smart, and coaches, they know how to work. With the media to make them look good and everything about them and follow up thing, though about the follow up to the following cliff. I see that your first name is cliff with a K in your last name Kingsbury with a K. Did you ever think that if your parents named you cliff Kevin Kingsbury that would be pretty tough to sell later? The question is what is this middle name? I don't know. It's Tom it's Timothy I just looked it up. It's Timothy which is my dad's name, which is a real shame. I was really hoping it was like Kevin or something. It'd be great. If he was cliff Kevin Kuenssberg. I never thought about that. I guess it's common fence at the ks. We're kind of off the list when you're thinking middle names if you have your first and last name already picked out for him. I've been watching a lot of documentaries for a lot of people. That'd be a dream name. Just want to let you know. A lot of docs there. There's a lot of bad bad white people out there AJ. I did not do there's there's one on Netflix about the area and nation or whatever. And I had no idea there are small like in relative to population. They're a very small group of humans. But boy there a terrible batch of white people that I did not know still exist on this world. They're very it's a small two hundred of them basically in the thing that are talking about. But there they do some terrible. I had no idea they still existed. I'm being serious when I say, it was very naive of me to think that that that level of stupidity still exist, but there's like a good two three hundred thousand Georgia's still running around with all these torches and shit. Wow. I didn't know I didn't know they still vis thought. Yeah. There's some, you know, weird hillbillies that that may have some racist thoughts or writing. No, they're actually still gathered. Yeah, they still gather. They have an Email list to newsletter that was the big that was a big part of the documentary was the this first lady of the I forget what they call themselves. The knights of something. The first lady sends out all the emails. It's big job. It's a big job. She's g frontline of recruiting for the the racist. White people. The first lady says, she's the the wife of the headman whatever his name is. He wouldn't get married to her because he doesn't want to appear soft. So that she was just girlfriend. So I. These. I I am so deepen documentaries on Netflix. I know a lot more about these weird subcultures than I should I've being serious when I say that. But it all adds it all adds to stand up. It's though all adds to stand up. It's. AJ's the best. 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I'm still I'm not I don't know. I haven't done a show in a while. So I guess it's kind of up in the air in the middle. I'm just wondering you ever done it. So what have you ever done it? No. Why? Standup. I mean, I. I don't know. Why would I try that? You're a great storyteller. I'm not really the dynamic storyteller. You I give speeches and stuff it places. Decent money doing that. Is it motivational is it motivational? No, absolutely. Not it seems like it's probably motivate you, if it's a corporate speech, that's a motivational speech. I know what? You're just lied to me. I would like to hear your motivational speeches though. What are you? What do you go with someone? If someone is motivated by something I say, maybe, but no, I'm I'm the anti motivational speak speech, bro. I did a pre game show last week in Blacksburg Virginia. And they had they had me give us they wanted me to look at the camera and give a pep talk to the UAB blazers playing am I told the producer going on my K, man? Like, that's not really my thing. I hate pep talks. I disagree with him. I don't think they do anything. I disagree with. No joke. He was like well you when he was really cool when he showed me one that this guy that hadn't studio does. And he's the guy was really good. He's animated whatever comes the complete opposite of what I would be. I basically told them I was like all right. Well, yeah, I'll do it. But withstood whatever, and I just gave a short anti pep talk, basically to the UAB blazers you're saying like how dumb pep talk star of these are stupid. You should be offended that there had me do this. Why would you need this? Like you guys. You guys are nine and one year. Good team. You don't need a pep talks. Give me out of here. This is dumb. Sorry. By the way, I had to do. So I had to do. It was terrible. So you did give them a pep talk. Though, you said you guys don't need this. You guys are so good. You should have faith in yourself. There's not a guy who's got incredibly good looks in great hair who went to state and played for the Packers. And now is on television wearing makeup. There's nothing that guy can say that makes your team better team. This is stupid. You guys are a great squad already get out there. And do your thing I'm done with this. That's what you said that's a pep talk. What you just gave you just gave them a pep talk. Yeah. I guess it turns into that. But you through your your vision? It sounds much better. So maybe I should have brought you down. But I haven't that's another thing ama- motivator. I am a motivator. I don't wear makeup, but the play by play guys I work with they bring their own little thing and they put their own makeup on. There's not make people there at least crews I work on. What are you gonna do? You think you're gonna bring your own nom spray tan, and I think Friday morning, that's all the makeup. I need. Just put a little town on desires skin makes me look damn good on forte. Who's gonna spray chain? I got this company. I just go not a company a small business here in Indianapolis. I walk in. They know the deal I want dark tint make me black real quick. And we go out there and really make it good. Okay. You're not allowed to do that in two thousand eighteen oh, we just had Halloween. You know, you can't do that. Megan Kelly loss or gig for asking that question of why what Brown one what a dumb? Phages used as an excuse to get rid of her because they like her in a ratings were awful that site, and she's still got paid sixty nine mil though. Right. She one thing. I mean, she looks. She got a bad rap there for a long time, which probably not bad rap is very stupid question. But she made she's now a professional golfer. Probably she's just getting paid sixty nine million probably the Gulf on a daily basis. Well, she should go back to socks news now. Right that that's what she her. Specially wasn't no Tucker Carlson cut there and took her spot in drove the ratings up even higher. So maybe maybe it put it on before Tucker. I'm assuming that she pissed off people at FOX whenever she wants to NBC, I'm assuming she might just be done. If I have sixty nine million dollars in the Bank, by the way. I don't want to say that. I am a guy that would disappear, but I think I'm gonna head get an Andrew luck. Peyton Manning flip phone don't do an island. I'll know if you ever fuck and see me again if I get sixty nine. You say that you say it all the time. Hold on. Hey, everybody. Hey, hey, you ship. Please facetime. You're in a hold on do, you know him? Thank you. Yeah. I'm actually interviewing AJ hawk right now. He's on here. He can hear you. Yeah. We're analyzing a lotta shit magin AJ's going to do a lot of the analyzing. And I'm just probably going to be piping in with one liners. He got this weekend. Hey, who do you think's gonna win AJ? Between tech and Baylor wells texts starting quarterback plays. They should definitely light it up. But if not it who knows. Well, yeah. Because he's on a FaceTime. He's in my headphones. He said he thinks if Tex quarterbacks they're playing techs going to light it up, but just for future reference. I don't like to predict games that I'm calling it's kind of my standard. So I won't give you an answer. Yeah. Me and Herbie kind of the same way. We don't wanna really put any negative vibes into the air. We just want to see a good hard fought game between student human athletes student humans. I athletics third. Do you want to say anything AJ? Do you guys know each other? Played against him. Was he dirty was AJ dirty? Did you guys ever really get into it any CD caused for either of you by either of you? Hey, AJ that guy is one of the dumbest guys in history. I don't know how to. I don't know him. Well, I've known I know of played against them. But I I don't know personally. But I know I've I've heard him on your show and more here on the more. I like that dude AJ he is a guy that is a lunatic for sure at absolute attack. But a hilarious one. You also saw Pat anger echo. You are are chimes yours specifically of not letting dude spray water in your mouth. I love that. I've been saying that for adver, man. And that's that's something. I told my wife man, I don't know if it was during it was before after Pablo knew there's no way anyone's ever never get offended. If it tried to act like they wanted to squirt water my mouth, and my good buddy who's a joke and try to get me during a game at a time out. I would smack the bottle out of his hand. And try to fight him on the field. My wife like the probably the most practicing. I am about from my career from second grade on is that I never laid on the field wants hurt and never let anyone squirt water my mouth other than that. I don't care. But that was two things. I'm very proud of. It is tough to watch guys. Just let other people spray the, but like you, you're so tired. You can't just grab the thing and sprayed. You're so tired. You. Can't squeeze a bottle in your some person who makes a living trying to make everybody's life a little bit better. These these water boys that people talk about these people have fourteen hour days during the season trying to get people right with stem rehab and everything like that these guys and girls get yelled at by the GM's because players are hurting that they didn't hurt. They're getting yelled at by players for making them sit out these water boys that you speak of their lives are terrible. And then they're going to squeeze water into people's mouths. That's unbelievable. It will to grow entrenched to it's happening. More and more. I'm sure it happens in highschool now, man. I I are any high school coach at here's this like do start that earlier kid. Can you imagine the entitlement that you get if you're a fifteen year old kid, and you have some trainer squirting water your mouth like there's no hope for that kid. He has no chance. The only time anything she can squirt it in your mouth. Is if you're doing, you know, obviously, non sexual related we're talking about non sexual related is if you're out of bar, and they ring a bell or siren, and they tell you get up to the bar in a little person comes sprinting out of the wall with a bottle of whatever tequila vodka anything like that in his just pouring it into people's mouths while running down the bar. I recommend that by the way. I'm not against that. At all. I've done it on numerous occasions at a bar in Pittsburgh the little person with from my high school. He was a legend rest in peace to his beautiful soul. He passed away. Not sure if they still do it. But that is something you can definitely allow get dumped down your throat. I think. Of course, anything with alcohol any I think is allowed. But yeah, definitely not like on the field in front of people in front of cameras were millions of people or possibly watching. I guess the alternate disrespectful move. I don't feel disrespected by. I would talk to them all the time. I would when I was in Cincinnati. I remember talking to the trainers. They would be walking around one up and down the line during practice trying to squirt water. But hey, what are you doing stop off water? If you own it for him in front of his hand, he can grab it if you wanted but do not put that in front of a space and just that that shouldn't be your first offer to score data's mouth. It's not like it doesn't work like that. Like you work with us. You don't work for us. So stop doing that stuff. Man. I don't know who started. But I it makes me crazy. I would love to that's a motivational speech, by the way, you just gave another motivational speech. You work with us. Not for us. That's motivation. Look at you just being all types of motive. You're like the next fucking Lou Holtz out there with your motivation. Oh, okay. I was thinking about when I I told Doug Gottlieb was the host of the show is looking I was like what does I thought about doing like a Lou Holtz impression for my pep talk. What do you think he's like? Over a well tonight. You're a Bumblebee bumblebees bodies are way too big for the size of their wings. They should not be able to fly at the scientific fact that bumblebees and not be able to go off the ground. But tonight, girl Bumblebee, your outweighed outmatched like you'll fly tonight. Like a Bumblebee tonight, you make magic how about the magic tricky did with the newspaper that one time he ripped up the newspaper, and then he folded it and then by the end of it, it was a whole newspaper. Again, Lou Holtz is fucking legendary. Yeah. He is. He he does that newspaper trick about two hundred and twenty times a year and all his speaking gigs. I know that much makes cash. Now. Okay. Interesting sentence, you just put there because it was slapped at Lou Holtz for using his same Hackney thing. And then you complimented him at the end from which cashing make. So I don't know how I feel about what you just said about Lou Holtz. Good. I'm glad you don't know how to feel. Was it a shot at Lou Holtz or compliment Lou Holtz right there AJ? I don't know. I don't know. If however you interpret it. I'm just putting out there things out there, just stating facts. I can't wait for Saturday with you. You're the man have a great thanksgiving. Happy thanksgiving. Do you want to say happy thanksgiving anybody, or is that kind of anti your thing too? Who else is in there who else in the office with your right now? Everybody's in the office at some some point scattered around. The we got a big merchantville going on. So there's a lot of panic happening right now in the office. Oh, happy thanksgiving to everybody in the office over their land radio. And maybe to you. That means a lot. Two hundred thousand people listening to you could've maybe said happy thanksgiving to them. But that's not your thing. That's not your second. Pandered Virata applause for all the troops. And the firefighters out there. Troubles right now. I want wanna give you I'm giving. You can't see me. Appreciate everything you do. Now once that you wish them happy thanksgiving. So that's pretty interesting really pander pandered to every single possible group. I can't that we'll come on the air like that. All right. I'll see you at the press conference ad. Four thirty at the conference. Call yet. No press conferences happened today. Yeah. I'll be there. Do you see what we just did? We just finished each other's. Not your dancing monkey. All right. Hey, look, we'll raiders. The ending of that interview might be the greatest interview, I think so. I think so I think it is because it was coming full circle. He finished my first sentence tie. And then he refused to finish my second center because he said, I'm not your dancing. He's the best. I'm so lucky. I'm in there with him. Honestly. I don't think there's anybody else. I'd rather call a game. What's going to be awesome? As a human. I I've talked with AJ hawk for Newt like probably fifteen sixteen hours long intimate converts long conversation. Oh, yeah. And now we're going to be into booth, and I don't know how to say this. But I am just going to make that thing show. I don't know if they know that I have no idea what their expectations are for the three man booth situation. Bumble make that thing that show there. I know actors knows I'm here for the show on the screen that you don't be able to draw on screen. Absolutely. And he will. Hey, Bob Ross in draws some happy trees out there block on f s one Saturday, right noon, f s one Saturday, Texas Tech Baylor live from Jerry world, which I'm probably not allowed to say if I had to guess. It's going to be a lot of fun though. Michigan Ohio state will happen again. This won't this. We'll probably. You know? Navigating the Goshi Asians with companies that are mainstream networks that allow you to be a third man booth or maybe let you on TV and things like that can be very complicated. Hey can be very complicating. Have no idea what you're supposed to wear. What you're supposed to say. 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Use promo code, Pat and get ten dollars off your first Seekie quarter or use promo McAfee and get twenty dollars. Holiday season, save every fucking. You can't. Use promo code battery from McAfee get twenty dollars off. I or you could probably go get to very good tickets for less than fifteen bucks with that twenty dollars off type thing sometimes think about get out there to live a little bit you're alive. But are you living go live with all right? Let's I would like to hear the thanksgiving poems that everybody has written proper. Yeah. Riposte author. It's on all those things. I would like to hear them. I don't think we play music in the background. I think would just kind of let them meet we'll go around the room and from our small business to all of you listening. We're very thankful and here is some poems from the group starting with Todd mccombs. This thanksgiving, I'm thankful for the following stuff. It's a no particular order because the draft is rough. I'm thankful for Sarah Josefa, hell, she wrote Mary had a little lamb in a letter addressed to president Lincoln expressing her love for smoked Turkey and ham. Oh, we need a new holiday. She wrote one where we show thinks instead of greed, we'll have food and drinks with family and friends. Sounds like a good time old Abe Lincoln. Agreed. Oh, new holiday was born in the response was Mary. Hurry. The crowd shouted. We can finally get rid of all this fucking cranberry. We've been stockpiling it for decades and storage isn't free. The only people buying our senior citizens having issues when they p. Well, we should add something to the law was the PS at the end of her letter. No politics should be spoken at dinner that will help ensure the families get along better. The Lincoln fell to read to the end, which means that last part was dumped now we have to stomach the shouting because cousin Ian and grandpa. Don't agree about Trump. So I'm thankful for Sarah. Hell she's responsible for the special Turkey day a holiday without gifts means times with family, but no one has to pay except for cousin, Ian who can't keep his liberal lip still. You really pissed off Grandpa's. And now he's been cut out of the will. He was counting on that money to pay off his student loan debt and catch up with his bookie because he lost his ass some bad bets. He had to get a new identity and move away to a whole new town here he was down like three large. If you stayed here. He didn't up in the ground last. I heard he ended up in Alaska, but it's been eight years since his voice was heard dead or alive. It doesn't matter. Thanksgiving's are way better now without that wine. ES third got them. Let's go thanksgiving home. Indian? As soon as I soon as I heard you take a shot at I knew the poem was. Dying. I think I was the only one it was very loud reaction. Take a ride there. He was going going going. And then he took that first shot at the, and I was like well here we go. Thank you thought was incredible. Thank you. Now from Plum high school whose teachers are striking as they don't teach good. Strike from holiday park. He has a good beard. He's a degenerate, ladies and gentlemen at digs with z. My assignment was a poem shouldn't be too hard might be so good. You see it on a card. I'm here to tell you some things that I'm thankful for one is having this job that makes me slightly less poor. I'm thankful for eating wings in bed and erotic actresses who are on porn hip, giving head also for a nice fat hangover pizza, and that I am not from the Bosnian towns Sandinista. Oh my God. You have no idea. What sleep means to me? I love it almost as much as a credit card with a low APR fee. No idea what I would do without TV and movies. Life would be terrible. I might as well shoot me. Can the gold gambling is bad for you at tale? I was never told back covers and hammering the over Paul was my religion, not Passover. Old-fashioned tito's. You can't beat those in the vape pen at night has me feeling so right. Oh, shit goddamn, my computer just fucking froze back. Oh shit. I almost forgot my fans. I think that's it. Just kidding most thankful for the fans. Oh, and certainly least I'm thankful thankful for my work amigos to any of their funerals. You sure won't see migos. Movies in shoot me. Comey pizza, and what was the Bosnian towns. Sabahi needs. Of course. Incredible Ryan, the teachers teachers should be paid more there really should another Mustang from high school hockey fans optimist, Nick, Ron, thank you. Above all other above all others this year this great day ranks the data. Stay humble the data gift. Thanks thankful for Bailey. Thankful for Todd. The mcculloch's family makes minefield less odd. I'm thankful for poxy wizardly editing skills. Thank for for Connor his voice, so terribly terribly. Shrill thankful for TI who sacrifices sleep. So you're you're stabilised each and every week. I'm thankful for Zito his magical grin thankful for digs. My pies auto Ken thankful, fulfill not really, but you get it. I only put them on here since he handles our checks won't let us forget it. In certainly thankful for you, Pat who gave us all chance to work for the greatest small business on earth in 'cause you a huge pain in the ass. And finally to the listeners, I beg. Let's eat. Let's drink and celebrate thanks to you all for carrying. What bullshit we say? Keeping keeping up with us tuning in every day. Oh, it's been a ride thus far. And no we hear ain't done yet. Raise a glass the Pat McAfee show family. Yes, it's the best. You can get. Here here. Frank a. You're good at it. Yeah. You are. I can't wait to hear what you're about. Chicago real wordsmith high Q man Viva though. To take a hike or not take. That is the question don't they for Pat and the boys when our brains work together, it brings the noise. I'm happy. They accept the guy from Illinois. I'm always thinking twitch stream. Even though Pat thinks is the money scheme. It's not I promise you, but make sure to follow at Twitter dot TV backslash, Pat McAfee, and let's watch it grow. That boy tau. Oh. Okay. Let's I think ties is probably gonna be very good. And also Connors to Connor. You had a writing your degree? I've dabbled in the arts of writing. Yes. I did see video from you in college. You sent to us. I assume her college career was what he took very serious. Honestly, just the major. I think he's I don't know just send it back to the booth behind the both booth. Yeah. The boo it's an eight Jane, Sean, Kelly. Donner on field on the be on the need for this one like AJ. Well, AJ hawks said he's going to take a knee in the middle of the game. That's his thing. The comfortable anyways talking about his knee this. I thought he the piss probably that is. Well, I think I can't wait to hear my reactions wants to hear what I say live abroad. I wonder if he brings us piss joke. You remember the thing he keeps under his desk. Cats weird kind of thinking about it. You're probably gonna need that by the way, not piss jog. My bladder knows what share my bladder Nosema Showtime. I would share this bottle with aging. I'd probably just know right in that hall without any fuming by the guests, by the way. Grand Canyon type. I was just waiting on new sorry. Okay. 'cause from Michigan. He went to Michigan state. He claims to know nothing about the doctors up there. Correct. This is true. He's a video editing hero from Michigan for the small biz. Evan foxy. Thank you, pal. Also single vary. Could could mingle too. All option hasn't book could as the potential say the ability. I'm I'm worried two people could potentially think that he doesn't maybe have a pain. Could mingle even on thanksgiving. We're going to do this. Well, this is the fourth. This is coming on thanksgiving, though. I would never say this to you and thanksgiving I said I would like to preface in the show that I said this yesterday. Foxy? You didn't deserve. Okay. Here's my poem. He did not deserve that edit that out. Yeah. Roses are red violets are blue I worked for a small business were idiots. It's true Zito in digs with brains. Also, bright and good old Nick Maroteaux. Golly. He is such a delight. Don't forget Boston counter Connor the loudest of the mall in our good old. Uncle todd. He's old as ball. And then there's Tosh mitt his Gruden is a hit. Oh. And of course, Pat McAfee, he's the captain of our ship. Oh, there's nothing more important than the fans of this show. I hope you have an amazing day. Cheers to you. All. Yeah. I really I I did that one. One. Did that last one while the show was going on? I was gonna end. I was going to end it with a ship need to say something about the fans. But the thing about you literally have to edit videos all day. Yeah. There's no time for you to write a hero, literally just finished it. You did great there, folks. Good. Thanks for those that don't know. The only time Fawkes really gets out of his whole is during these shows. Yeah, you guys didn't even ask me to come in. I just saw. So that's where we're at. No, no, no. That is not. And that is not true. I mean the way for you. We didn't interrupt. Yeah. We can literally see his whole from right here is right next to him. You're making a video for twelve o'clock sail from twelve pm on thanksgiving till seven pm on cyber Monday. Yup. Yup. That's what I was doing. There. It is. Store dot com. Nailed it. Also, while we're here, you can become a member of the pub, we have pub shirts coming out. I know there's a good person. They're not bad. Either. A member of the pumps shirt. I'm not buying one until one certain thing. They're not bad. They're unbelievable. What needs to happen? Till pump cats debt, I'm not buying. Oh, that cat because of its Twitter account or because of it in rule like real life. Really what happened gave Nick pink guy? No, no, not true fake news. Now, maybe Maine but not thinking, hey, look, I can take slander on the pub do not slander pub cat. All right. Dick's. Let's see. Are you a cat fan? You are. We blend truth last night at the Petco, or whatever was so cool poke liked it. Traits. No, no. I got him through the bikes. Eight the cat. Just looks like like hide it. All right. Thank you for that. I wouldn't say this tomorrow on Thanksgiving Day before they before fair. No, he doesn't like your cats using he's in a lake some strange feral now nutrition classroom street, like the one that heights that one's more like pub cat than any of the other ones because novacaine from St. teddy steals my water. So fuck Titi tiny last night hijacked, all of SAM's place. I never seen anything like it. He put his paw on the plate in dragged it to the other side right in front of us. It was a long time. I just I literally was just watching it happen Sam like turn back around. She's like what's going on? He's moved from there already. It's incredible. And then every once in a while he'd like stopping like lick his policies even likes the taste. Maybe be like. Yeah. I do. Thing was awesome. Who's this morning? He was loud too. He was not happy somebody needs to give him something. I don't speak his language yet. Like, we talk. Yeah. But I don't know what he's yelling about every morning. I've no idea. I tried to give him water this morning. Nope. I tried to give them some catnip. Hey, here's some drugs. No, it's not the worst. When you're no. You're an will want something. But you don't know what it is. It's unbelievable. It's like just talk. Oh. Vowel like look at things that she wanted like, she'll give me like, hey, I gotta take ship. Why don't you fucking get up? I'm sorry. It's gonna take care of that bladder Val. I'm becoming huge animal person, obviously. But I I really am starting to get why people are animal that makes sense. I never really had ADD. That's why I don't watch any movies or anything never had the time. Just to hang out. I'm starting to get why animals our lives so appreciative. Once you feel that love your all in brow when I got home from LA Sam, obviously, very excited to see me. But I get here. Vallis tail hitting off the wall at the other side. I was like oh my God. This is this thing really enjoying would you save Alex you or Sam Moore she likes him or to Sam saved her? So she knows that. But I I am definitely somebody that she is taking a kin to their for. She actually she does like like she'll she'll literally knows in Tuttle me every morning, they call this dog. Oh, this is so cute. And then he's not damn cats. Meowing at me all the time. It's awesome. That's what I'm thankful for. No. Let's skip thanksgiving. I was saying that tomorrow bodily. The mean stuff we said the foxy that he did not deserve. You did not deserve that pace. You did not deserve. I don't know. If that makes me feel better at this point. We're knowledgeable. Yeah. True. Very true. You know what? I mean be different if you deserved it. So when I listen to this tomorrow, I should feel a lot better. Because you I said it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Three x though. So it's like, yeah. That's section. I didn't know people actually did that though. Yeah. I learned to people do that this weekend, by the way, people tell me they listen to my show in two two. Excellent. What do I sound like they're? Couldn't even fathom couldn't even couldn't even fathom what I sound like maybe I sound like this. We one breath thing. Do you think there's an ability to turn the podcast to a four exit Hemi sound like this can I play. Yeah. Yeah. How insane was that? Is that I I stumbled across that the other evening while on some vitamins just playing I think it might have been on the plane, actually I just had like a headset on and I'm just like sitting there listening, and all of a sudden that that song showed up somehow in a playlist because whenever you play your own playlist they'll cycle in other songs too. I've been learning this. It's like playing this radio or something in this song came on. And I think I might have been like half asleep almost half asleep. And then all of a sudden he's like you guys ready and somebody said, yeah, like woke me up, and then all of a sudden it was like. I looked at my like paused immediately looks at my phone, and I was like what the fuck was that who was and it was logic. I was very impressed. I I don't think I've been there in wall as on that song, and I met Mr. whale himself this weekend WWE thing that me up for well, let me food food up. And I said why is my name wall lay? But they keep saying WALE. I appreciate your love g Comi g damp up and then walked away. I had my gold. I wonder if I wonder if Mr. wall eight knows respect I wonder if he knows so huge WW guy wrestlemainia to he has Walea mania way while a mania will he has something like that. Every wrestle many has a huge show. He's a big WWF van. He was just running around through sitting wherever fuck he wanted where. And there was another guy Raisch Roman sway leading something. He was wearing a see through shirt. Suspect does it was a see through dress shirt. Okay. The see through drescher. He was right there right in front of us with his big tall white guy. Who's like his manager? I guess you knew our agents. Everybody knew each other like, oh, that's blah, blah, blah. He was taking selfies of himself with a he just bought a belt. He was into it though. Oh, yeah. It was awesome to see. It was good for the W w. Yeah. That's all right. Let's get back to these pose by the way, that's a talent with that. Dude. Did their highly towns, do do you think it's the four x thing or do you think he actually did he said one breath? Nice. And are you ready? And we said, yeah. So he wouldn't was no, no, no, no, no logic. With though wouldn't be logical. Tire. This thanksgiving. It's clear I've got a lot to be thankful for although writing this poem was quite the chore. That's on me. Packers fucking stink. And that is no lie. But on the bright side today, we all get to smash mashed potatoes and pumpkin pie. Oh, I've been waiting for this meal for the past several weeks. But I'm afraid I'm going to need to wear a diaper to prevent any leaks. Spending the rest of the week in Beantown and not here with the boys and for that. I'd like to thank our leader. Under who I'm employed. Punishment? I'd also like to give thanks for being in good health. Hopefully, I stay that way while heading back east to the Commonwealth this holiday season be thankful for what you have and avoid all the crap. And if your family sucks this year say fuck it, go AWOL and take a nap could Zoe Joyce. It's thanksgiving one of the best days of the year, nothing, but NFL games and copious amounts of ice, cold beer, keep it in perspective that you've got things pretty good and others. Don't have such good luck. After all you could be a Packers fan and be stuck with Mike McCarthy that incompetent fat. He didn't enjoy. Nerve that got quite a shot there McCarthy. A all the Packers fans attorney on that guy. Oh, yeah. It's not just you know, I've wanted him gone for four years. You think Aaron Rodgers is turned off? Yeah. I don't think Rogers is liked him for a while now. But he's just he's too much of a standup guy to bury them to the media. Hopefully that'll change. Matching he gets up there. We all saw. I did pretty good. Schemes probably just a little bit better on cyber n- field. There. His stats are pretty good this year nine thousand nine hundred nineteen touchdowns. One interception. Aaron rodgers. Yeah. Hundred and three rating. They are four five and one there's people talking about how they should have paid him one hundred mil like there's people trolling on the internet absurd. Absurd. He's doing some really cool too. By the way, re tweet for good his the. Yeah. State farms donate mill if you do it nice. Yeah. He's doing cool shit right now gays Butte, strong that was the community college. He went to. Okay. So Butte, Montana, also where evil knievel code Anderson and the guy who killed some water from. So that's the one I saw Butte trunk thing. I was like. Wait a minute. And then I listen, I was like, oh that must be county up there. But it's a college. I think it's a county too. But that's the community college. He went to before Cal good shit riders wouldn't expect anything else. Here's a guy from Boston. A lot of things said about him on a regular basis. Can't wait to hear what he has to say in a rhythmic, poem fashion. The thing. You bet Boston Connor this poem titled the night before thanksgiving by Charles Chester Campbell. Okay. So you're saying this yesterday. Yeah. Yesterday, this is yesterday. Okay. It's my poetry name on the night before three poetry Charles Chester Campbell. Informally known as the three CS Chucky cheese Campbell. So help say Saana, Stephen son of Stephen here, we go on the night before thanksgiving with Indiana winter gloomy the pub was bright as ever lots of booze was looming. Oh dressed to the nines. We got ready to roll thanksgiving tomorrow. Then the North Pole. Oh, yeah. Fox zito. And I opened the pub with the shout. The time was coming to be out in about piano bar was the spot. We would start in broad ripple. It was hard not to blackout harder than my nipple for the night was cold. But our spirits were high knowing tomorrow, we would all split a big pumpkin pie the night continued as redound our beer's Welkom not expecting the round of shots. I ordered Vegas bomb. One after another Zina's mom was. Today, Nick, one after another we drank to worry out in the red bull. But we needed a little food to get back into our skull downtown indie. We went FOX called an Uber with a flick kilroy's on Meridian we all wanted some breadstick. Dan, went the food and more veers as well. We were all heading for darkness, the waitress could tell Zito got us in a car, and on our way, home we needed anyways. More vitamins to the dome back to the pub pumped for the morning to say, the least ready for thanksgiving. Tomorrow, a true McAfee feast. Oh, now, here's my PCP, which is similar to the PS in the letter community p p postpone p. Okay. The postpone. It's the spec the PP. Thank you. Has a personal protector on a punt to you ok p or sorry Charles Chester Campbell's. PP course post poll be thankful for football. I am for Bill and Tom not to mention a black Friday sale at store dot Pat McAfee, show dot com. Your mom made it through their twice also. She doesn't she makes a lot of things twice. Oh, that's my fault. All right. It from me. I you guys did a great job there by the homework for the boys excited for that. It's a Turkey day. Thanks to the listeners of the year. Allowing us weekly to penetrate your ears is every show heater. Not quite but yene stick with us like white on rice. Nice. We had a couple of moments that had us like. Wow. Like when Dan Patrick said his life back, then is like our life. Nah. That was wild. It was real. Well, it was really wild moment. Saying that I was getting real children. I was like Saddam be like you. I'm perfect. We are true family in a couple of interesting spots with moments of pure stupidity and brilliance like Zito's thoughts. Boston Connors joined the team. He's funny. And he's loud also welcomed gator. I'm sure his dad's really. I'm lucky to be surrounded by such a great squad. Their abilities to do it. All I truly applaud clap for. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. When we started blogging there for a little bit for we had to redo. I was really impressed, by the way, you guys did that you guys do a lot of really good stuff. Thanks, buddy. I plot. That was me. And it was the only word the Rams squad. To everybody listening. We're in this together. In like, the mighty Mighty Ducks. We fly in any weather. So I hope your Turkey is great in the drinks are flowing. Well, what were we doing next year? You ask only time will tell let's continue to enjoy each other's company and hang like, a canopy the McAfee, mafia. I'm truly lucky to be a part of this family chairs thanksgiving. We thank you also so much. Thank you, all so so much and with that we'd like to send it over to DJ, Frankie Maroteaux while the ones in to this thanksgiving with some thanksgiving heaters to hold you over your hangover and make it into black Friday. I son. He made the team. I did they say. It's all. Is mad. This is fanny business, and it's just what family families. Oh, family family's diet. Quick sweet like a photo. I mean, he said it. Christmas. Can't be right. Always said thanksgiving can't be somebody. Please stay grading facing. Thanksgiving don't have a lot of us. Does not stand. Jesus gets along with Christmas. Look off any. This fats in the way. Shot lattes and in the narrow in the North Island. Because of Jesus. Trying to go southern fees. They're like now. Zero just like Jesus classic off my lawn. Hey, they don't fuck around. That is an angry, you know, sitting daddy chicken here. Adam gear sixty. Thanksgiving. Yeah. Due to of you like Fawzi Senate. He said I kind of miss what's going on. But whatever you like on thanksgiving. That last second thing walking studio, you can eat whatever you like. Yeah. Kind of you can't impeach. Set your she'll there your house. His song. Also people drink. Models. Yeah. Thanksgiving thanksgiving song foxing low on FOX hills. Good. Who would've known TI would make it thanksgiving? So. For TI. In combining. By Friday song collard green all their y'all. Very call. All say same. That's also the weekend. Throughout business centres stored up. No pain. Vein might break. Capi slacked. Rack up. Being hang he's at. Thanksgiving. Franci freaking slopping my leak is Patrick buzz. News day, no months. No, months moles. Crescent? Thank you. Probably dance. Play my favorite. Yes. The thanksgiving. Yeah. I think we'll just there are thanksgiving. There are. There are. Look a little bit. Yeah. There's a deeper meaning in their everybody thinks these are shallow songs. I know. This is the deep end of the pool. Lifeguard must be on duty all meddle. Thanksgiving. Win. Not so bad. It's not so bad. Thanksgiving. It was it was the next course. We were referencing his not so bet. Yes, we got next song. It's not even. It's. That's not an old people's in that. This next song. I'm happy. We did that we figured that out Eminem the thanksgiving. So. Thank you. You want us to go back. Do love that song. Are we all do? Thank you. But it worked out. But it worked out. Workout. Working out, Mr. workout you just now big deal. It was now. It was now. There's a trip the next day. Maybe this work. This is working. I can't get a lunch a meal. To. Custody every holiday. Thanks giving this year. Yeah. What he's saying? Ex- turkeys. Thank you next. He said, but like what's her face? Are you on? I think he was referencing that. So it is definitely a thanksgiving. What was? And. This is like when you take a break from eating and then you come back a half hour later start eating skin. Basically, it's hard. Yes. Thanks giving. Please tell me you're going to end it with what I think you're gonna do it. I just thought only really one option. I don't know if it's going to be on Spotify. It is his it. Exactly outside of this song. Boy, I really want to get one. Figured out this one mashed potatoes, you just days yelled method. Yeah. Thanksgiving software, this I. I am. Oh. This is the ultimate thanksgiving. Video play right now. People are scared to make song because it sounds so good. Well, we just found a bunch of other thanksgiving song. Right. There's this. Great. The music video to this one. Incredible the music video this evening, pretty hard. Oh. Video taught. Oh my God. It's awesome. Dry. Threes potatoes. Screens multiple version. Tickets. Oh. Church. Potatoes are made us potatoes made us grieve. Grease grease. All right. That's good. I'm ready to go. Remember if you're going to get the trip to fan shout out to all those bangers by those. I didn't know that. There's that many thanksgiving guys poem should all be turned into beats and made songs as well. We're just adding thanksgiving might have the most songs about time. We just haven't. We haven't looked hard enough. We haven't gone into deepen taught. But did you do that for yourself? Absolutely. We got you started finish. Okay did Turkey. They say one thing comes in. 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That's good I mean it's I've had conversations with very serious people, and he's been sitting on the John Right over my shoulder the entire time. You're the first person to bring them up though. It's gorgeous and the fate and the facial expression is hands out. About it, we got questions do. Face I. Don't understand what you're saying. Let's talk about Baseball UK yesterday massive day. You said when the last time you're on here us. Yeah, everybody's everybody's happy. It feels like you said if it's not eighty games. Let's not talk about it. I don't think eighty games is ever going to happen and go she. Got Sixty. If you're going into this season, you're not I. Believe you're coaching, but if you're a player going into this season, what is the thought with a sixty game season? Year like everything in Kobe I mean what I thought two weeks ago. I'm done with that I moved. Aw, now I'm cool with sixty I, just WANNA. See Baseball. I'm excited pumped I. Just love to see competition right and we haven't seen a lot of competition on TV, so I'm excited and Yeah, this is going to be wild sixty games. You're going to see a couple. Teams are going to be in the in the postseason. That wouldn't probably be in the postseason. Don't worry. Don't worry. It's not the pirates. Bit. Plus fifty thousand right now one hundred dollars when you fifty thousand on the Pittsburgh pirates right now. Hey, you never know. Though was sixty games. You never know they get hot. They get out that gate. They stay hot for another four weeks might put him in. They might get lucky and you know the trade. Deadline's what August thirty first now even wilder, so hey, you never know. Know I mean you're pirates might Ford off? But I'm a covey guy now, so I gotta say we're going to try to take guests. That's okay I respect. What is the thought as Cubby Guy? Now is their messaging being sent out to the team. And how is the guy's been able to keep the rust off during this quarantine? Because I assume it's pretty hard to get BP. into parks and stuff like that I. Assume it's pretty hard to play catch when you're not allowed to be around other people how the guy's been able to stay fresh in his that July first spring training, two point going to be an ugly little cluster truck of performance. Yeah, it's going to be an interesting thing. A lot of squad, a lot of guys facing. You know the same pitching over and over and over, but it's all about just getting timing down, so the two point Oh like hitters need three weeks pitchers. Hopefully, they've been doing all their stuff with the programs. I mean there's so many batting cages now so many facilities to work out at so these guys been. Pre you know working out at home, the pitchers especially I mean that's the key right now. Those guys arms need to be thrashed and he'd be going and I think it's going GonNa be wild because we're in uncharted waters. I mean we've never seen this before so three weeks of spring training. We pretty interesting. My hope is that we just don't see a spike in injuries because guys are trying to rush. Yeah, that's what you have to worry about right is in football. It's always the hamstring. The hamstring has always the thing that goes I. It's always in practice when the running okay. That guy's either worn out. That's why these. Russian GPS tracking devices that the user so important, because when people are fatigued or being overexerted that chance of injury is going high this spring training porno could cause a lot of that. Let's talk about the pitching. Our Guys GonNa Pitch Longer. Are we going to see more complete games? You think they're going to be shorter, so they can rotate more often. How do you think that'll be managed throughout shorter season? Via I don't I don't see these guys now. They just come out trying to throw a hundred and five and dive I. Mean They don't even care for it. They leave it to the you know. These guys are trying to throw as hard as they can. Throw spin. You know they're trying to spin it. They're trying to get those sexy stats on the rap soda machine, so I mean I think there are those guys that still exist you know you got your your landers. You got your Kohl's. You got your. Shirt Zor you you got. You got those big dogs. That will go a little longer. Than usual because the season isn't as long so I think it. Depends on you know the pitching staff also the the the quality of their arms at that point to some guys might have dead arm. You know just going into the season so this. This is really fascinating to see because. This actually favors the Washington nationals more than ever to repeat in a Lotta ways because think about this when you had that, shorten gap of a postseason on October end of October two spring training. It's usually because the pitching staff. Doesn't rebound as well the next year. You know a lot of guys fatigued pitched longer, so they need more break now. These guys about a long break and they got some big dogs there that can pitch so This actually helps out with the ability to repeat. You going off that with teams like the nationals, and like the Yankees and some of these other teams who are really top heavy in their rotations. You think they'll stick with five man rotations, or do you think they'll go down to three or four to maximize how many starts these guys get? A very good question I think I think you're gonNA see the beginning at five man rotation. In you might even see, some people do six man rotation I. I mean it could. People can get really interesting with this because. You the rosters expanded now rice, or now you have. Thirty. There's like thirty guys that can be on the team. What's normal weeks? What's normal? Well! It was twenty five, and then now they changed it to twenty six this year. which is awesome, because now you add that player whether it be a pitcher or a position player that you can add to the roster, and that really helps out teams, but I think he goes thirty, twenty, eight, twenty, seven I believe is how throughout the weeks, but the six man rotation, and then I think you were going to say. Maybe they'll get shorter towards the end of the season. One of our matters. You kind of turn them around quicker. Yes Oh, so, now you have the ability to go to a four man rotation later in the season. Because guys, you know what it. They're not pitching over one hundred sixty two games. So you know you go in those last couple of weeks you can set yourself up. You're pitching staff when your rosters for the postseason Oh. Wow, that's. Super Sexy. What number picture. Taken that Sauvage your? Joy You take the first pitch. Though you gotTa take the First Pitch Hey man I, did by the way I played in a game. I played in a game for the first time. Ever playing baseball Washington, Wild Things Frontier League in Washington Pennsylvania and I was told by every professional baseball player that I spoke to. The first pitch is going to be the easiest pitch to hit out of that whole thing I ever saw in my entire life in the batter's box was like a ninety one hour fast ball swung it that some bitch made contact on gunned down at first pull the hamster. That's the whole thing went a great little trip down memory lane. They're diggs. Got Something for you. Though yeah, you with with the. Season our the coaches coach is going to have a shorter leash on the starting pitching with more emphasis on the game's being shorter season, and then who has the upper hand with the shorter spring training going into the season pitchers or To start the season. Yes, so it will be interesting to see I think like I said that we have no idea how this is going to play out, but I think the one key that will happen is guys will be on a shorter leash on the sense of you have more players being able to come out of the bullpen, so you're going to have a couple more bullpen guys in there that you know might be able to be the stopper, but I think you know with the shorter season. I mean this is I mean. I'm trying to put my head around it and I don't even know how to manage this right i. mean the fact that you're gonNA pitch counts early on and doing all that, but I mean, and then you have the young. You have the young pitchers that studies that they usually try to shorten them up anyways, they're not trying to go a hundred and five pitches to save their arm for future use so I mean these guys in the bullpen are going to be coming out throwing mud, and I think that's that's also the key to our. The bullpens that are very very strong will have the ability in a two months season. Stay as fresh as possible so. So Watch out for those bullpens I mean look at those teams that have the depth in the bullpen and they're going to. They're going to be very tough team to beat well. The good news about the pirates is we would have had a very deep bullpen, but we got rid of everybody because they wanted to get paid actual money, so that's good thing for the Pittsburgh pirates, the health and safety guidelines. The health safety guidelines were the thing that need to be modified. The player said. What do you know about? These nobody is really leaked other than the spitting. There's no spitting. You're not allowed to do. This may pertain for everybody hanging off of they're like. I. Don't know what they're gonNa do, but what is the travel has gotten into travel the rules at the stadiums. Anything like that has been laid out. I haven't got all that information yet. I think that is the key though to this though. This, The key to to win. This year's also who doesn't get covert. Because when guys are going to get COVADONGA teams and we're seeing it already they have to. They have to be quarantined for a couple of weeks, so if team somehow has five guys down it that could be the detriment of season right there, so that is going to be the most interesting aspect of this is. Will those guys come back, you know. Are they going to be healthy enough to come back and you know just trying to figure out how to keep that out I mean I, if covert breaks out that to be the end of that team season possibly so that I think the health of the covid risk is going to be safe, probably bigger than answering being cold. You, know Tommy John's saw. They might need replacement players behalf with medicine. Is that what you're said? Well, they have a very deep roster right now of guys that they can bring up. So you know if you can slide your way in their the permanent Barron survivors will take you for less money to if you if you decide to go for. A scab and go across the picket line. You could do this. What do you do for the cubs? Now what are you? Is this your first here doing this? No I've been for six years now kind of just great great host straight. Something I should. People have no idea what I do. What are you doing like a hidden culture over there? Like mark, Robeco there and spring training go throughout the season just sit around and help out with the coaching staff, a three p. kind of talked to the players kind of tell them how great they are i. mean you know as you know as a coach? Now you gotta do is build build Egan's man. Just build up the Egos Tom how great they are! Tell how much you stunk and they're the greatest. Greatest that's the key. How Long Egos these seasons are so long for you guys. I I tried to fathom at a couple of weeks ago when there was a thought that there was potential replacement players, and that whole thing about somebody who's never been in the MLB doing the MLB, even if they played in high school or college, or whatever, but to cross stabby had never be a minor league player, so that whole thing that's season seems so much different than every other sport. I would assume that like. Mental health is a big deal in this entire thing, and there has to be I. would assume that there's ways to try to break up the monotony of the season. Is that is? That's am my wrong in thinking that or Probably by the way in speaking is probably like a little bit of fresh air for the cubs, as they've been around each other for however long every single day of the week basically. Yeah. Baseball is such a mental. Grind it I, mean you? You don't even know where you're at some days. I, mean you're hopping plane here. You're going there, you're you're getting in a three am in the morning trying to get to sleep and you got to wake up early next day and your arm clock automatically goes off at nine. AM sell it. It's it is visible in. In awakes there's long games in the running, and all the power and being cleats for three and a half hours is just miserable some nights, but yeah, I think the mental side of it and I was joking around man. When you when you leave baseball and you played. You know five to ten years in in in Major, League Baseball. You're not right the head after. Your, we're all kind of look goofy after it but it's a great. You know it's a great time, and and that's what separates. The separation is the mental side of baseball the there's so much talent like what she gets double a. you play the major league level. You have the talent to play the major level. Separation is the mental side. Were guys make? Make adjustments. You know guys sacrifice their. You know time of partying or doing the little things you know in getting the like you said the monotony. The boring part about baseball is the practice you gotTa. It's repetition after repetition after repetition, the guys that take all the ground balls, the guys that work on their based running the do the little things are the. The guys that usually make their way up, so it is I mean baseball can be boring. You wake up every day the same thing over and over and over, but it also helps if you have those really good routines in place, which is also known as superstitions to a Lotta people we have. Football is groundhog's Day as well. It's like a six month groundhog's. GROUNDHOG's Day with the Games being a little bit different, but the meetings. The day you eat at this time you work at this time you go to bed, you wake up. You put that on repeat for five months in baseball. When you're doing that all on the road that is differently like rockstars by the that's like the rockstar life in everybody that is. You hear rockstars talk about being on the road about how much it's taken out of their lives, and that's what baseball. That's what I'm so impressed about I think the entire thing is the ability for one hundred and sixty two. To show up now, grant. It's only gonNA. Be Six times. Maybe this is my year and you said if you get the AA you're good enough to be in the majors. Yes so yeah once you get to. Get yourself to Aa well now you have a chance. That's the key double as the key scares me, get the AA. Excuse me. What is the Birmingham Barons? They are AA. So what mushrooms do I need to take or detain mental thing right to get up into the majors because the Perm Barons Michael Jordan's old team told me that they can maybe give me a little spot, little bit of a tryout. I believe. I would go with Iowa Oscar I think. You're right where you need to be. You know get the right Shaman. Hopefully. He knows how to square up. Some baseball's put you right in right in the mode that you need to get into and we had a videotape that. Videotape. With, is there any difference performance? Wise players if there are fans in the stands are not. That's you know that is probably one of the most interesting questions right now is. I never played a game without fans. Boston man like the energy of fans I mean that was what? I think that's why a hundred sixty two games. It's important to have a fan base when you play in a place where there's no fans. The monotony is even worse right. I mean. It's I I i. couldn't imagine like I said this Tampa. Bay, rays, you know how they get to the postseason. When gains with a very small fan base that shows up is it's impressive, because it is not easy to get up every day and play a game, but when you had that fan base behind you in just getting that adrenaline rush. That is the key, so yeah, this is GonNa be really odd i. mean hopefully pumps them some noise like oh, yeah, fan noise when guy gets a hit. Because, otherwise, it's going to be boring. Well you every time I talked to you. I feel like hey. I think I would have been friends with this guy so I. Thank you for joining US bub. Thank you always a pleasure in look after the beer and coffee. It's coming your way. Some over here. I can't wait. We can't wait to have a little Loma brewing company beer sitting right here. 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How did you get all the way to that point there? Actually in college, I was like Chuck. KNOB block I'm trying to do it here. Chuck Knoblauch with a Jeff Bagwell split stance and I slowly just kept getting my yeah. Oh yeah, keep going more, but then hold your back that way straight back. Otherwise. Yes like that. That was how I hit college. Go look it up. You can see it on the university and University of Cincinnati. This is why didn't get drafted right? They said there's no way this guy can hit. And I was like. Oh, I'll show you I'll make it even weirder. Leaks is that that's probably a part of that mental battle. Though right trying to figure out what works let's get here I. Feel Smooth, and I would assume that top hand was a timing thing when it came down right so basically. Yeah, I'll explain to you. I couldn't I had a hard time. Try when you load. If I went backwards with my front arm, it may make cock my shoulder too much. So this is something that, too you in the analytics and stuff that now they use like it's all scientific terms i. just say I loaded too much. I turned internally rotated too much. So what I did was I kept his left hand still and just move this right hand like this. So, it wouldn't. DETERMINE IF I. Basically keep me from turning too far, so I would turn in just enough and then gets the ball so yeah I don't really know what the Hell I was there in. G. Pepper Hey. You Pepper! Eventually. Worked though what you did I mean. It worked so good for you for finding it, but Damn I. Don't know if anybody else has ever. GonNa look like that. Their Bell I don't know if anybody else can do it. Not everyone can be sexy as me. Ladies and Gentlemen World Series Champ Loma Brewing Company. Owner and the coffee title is. Loma coffee. Company. See. Loma coffee. Kevin You. You. Get to a break for radio twenty five minutes after the hour. On Joy that dude a lot. He's very good at Baseball to Oh yeah. On the Road I. Bet you that. He was a great personality on the road. Coming off that thing, ten years on the road, two hundred and sixty days a year whatever it is. I guess. What would it be tourist sixty? Maybe two fifty. Right about there that is insane. That's a grind. That is an absolute grind. Mentally, I'm not sure I could do that, but the miners are even worse because they're on a plus the. You? SIX MINUTES AFTER So sorry to interrupt, but I have to tell you rate, meow. That today we have a new manscaping product. Alert. Man's gaped, just released the weed whacker, nose and ear hair trimmer. Take a look in the mirror and I guarantee. You'll see some hair sticking out of the stupid holes. It's time to keep your ear nose hair looking as nice as you're clean shaven poops. I've a massive sniffer in hair. Coming out of my massive sniffer is a massive problem. Insert Weed whacker. It is built to get in there in a beautiful fashion. 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In in-between US is one of the most electrifying football players who ever stepped on the field. He's allowed to be associated with USC again after a year disassociation, Ladies and Gentlemen Super Bowl champion heisman winner, the Reggie Bush. Appreciate that man. That's one of the best. Interests of ever gotten well. You deserve a lot more to be honest with you I try to get a quick, so we can get this conversation because I've been very excited about this. Thank you for taking time to join us. Yeah, thank you so much this morning. You had to be data of the year. The fact that you made time for us is a big deal. Let's get right into it. How was this entire process of getting back Lindt back with USC Ben I I assume it's been a bit emotional to Kinda. Take a trip down memory lane in kind of relive the glory days back whenever you and USC took over everything. Or I think emotional understatement. This was something that you know this is USA must wnyc's where I became a man. Miss where you know, the guys that I play with on the football field. Push me to the to my abilities to the things that you saw on the football field was was a reflection of the culture that we built in the reflection of the guys around me, and so you know if you to say that know what happened with me and. And USC was emotional would be an understatement because this was something that almost killed me on. This was something that you know I went through during my NFL career that where I was depressed. I was suicidal I went through a wave of emotions that really affected me in such a way. because I was in new, Orleans, by myself, I didn't family there I my teammates there, but as aj knows when you go home after practice. You have time by yourself. you know in in for guys who are married Dayton? They go home to a family, but for young guys who aren't married in an who don't have that at home you know there's a Lotta time by yourself, and there's a lot of time to sink in a lot of time to meditate on certain things in your mindset, and if you're foundation is not in the right place, that can be deadly and in that can be something that can can can control her. Chew and so for me the things that I went to USC. You know when I look back on it. and I and I look where we are now. Twenty Twenty I appreciate What's about to happen? I appreciate the fact that these young kids are GonNA. Make money off their name image likeness, because I know what it's not what is like not to be able to do that I know it is like. To to to kind of still be Hamstrung you know at the college level where the universities are making millions and millions of dollars off of you, but you can't make any money off of you, and and what that does now you know what I. What the way I see it is now. We're going to allow people to be able to make money at a very earlier at an earlier rate and also. They're going to be able to take care of their families right there going to be able to eat a little better, right? The life is GonNa be a just a little bit more comfortable, and that's the way it should be when you're in college. There's this narrative in his misconception that you're supposed. Be Broke in college, right? You supposed to be broken. You and you're supposed. Supposed to still be struggling east, supposed to still be trying to make it and figure it out right, but at the same time somebody else is benefitting off of your name image likeness, and so all we ask in just a little piece, non saying y'all making millions off of us, so just let us make a little bit of money off of us at the same time. Reggie how much do you think a current player can make off his name image likeness like say your quarterback at USC guys. How much! You know I honestly so for example Matt liner at that time period I think it may millions millions. Trophy We wanted to ask you. We've been the two national championships just one sorry and no sorry to talk. Shifts and You know I think he could have made millions of millions of dollars in La in Hollywood You GotTa think Los Angeles brings a different culture that no other city can really offer you know it may be New York places like new. York City. You know, have that that that you know the the opportunity to be able to do things like that, but. I think Matt liner could have made a lot of money. See Lyndale, white Brian Cushing Clay Matthews I mean. We had so many guys that you know went to the next level that could have easily made hundreds of thousands of dollars, and that's a life changing money. Thing this is life changing money for some of these kids and their families. You know when they're in college. Let's talk about your whenever you're at USC. You're the face of now. Matt Leonard Obviously. Youtube were a tag team of pop culture and everything like that. Put you were the face of La for a long I. Mean Reggie Bush twenty years old. You're the king of L. A. at the time in. If you're living off the college money that had to be a bit of a struggle, so whenever this? Came Out I. Think you were one of the first players where even the people that were against college players making money? They're like yeah, but that's fucking. Reggie Bush I mean you were talking emery highlight every primetime game your name. Your face was everywhere that had to be very frustrating whenever that will happen. When the original it all came out, they took their highs been no more orange bowl like the whole thing. How was your mental state? You said that you want a little bit of depression. As you felt like you were kind of left behind by some people there when you were at the saints, but as it was happening, what was your thoughts through that whole process? My thoughts. My thoughts were I was angry I was bitter Resentful I was upset. I was confused. I was also sad depressed you know you name it just about every wave of emotion I went through it. and I went through it. No Walla was in New Orleans. You know unfortunately, because you know why the reason I unfortunately is. Because you know I, wish I go back. I wish I could have just enjoyed that Riley with a little less stress. You know what I mean because that was such a magical ride for us. It was such a magical run for us. while we were down there and we got ta opportunity to. Be a part of history. We ought to to do something special for a city that had just lost so much, and it's funny, because when I think about New Orleans and how special it is to me, this was a city that welcomed me with open arms, right, and and and I never forget the first time. I went to new. Orleans and I. Want to shut 'em was restaurant. And walked in the whole restaurant stood up, applauded, and I thought the coaches has set that up, but you know it was. The fans were truly truly embrace me, and so when I look back on my relationship with the people there in the city. They. That was a place that I needed to go to because they welcomed me with open arms at a very very vulnerable time of my life, and and they gave me this renewed. Strength this. Renew Passion that okay I'm wanted again right, and and and now you know I have something to to wake up for and strive for and so New Orleans is very special very near, and dear to my heart, because you know while they viewed us as kind of their saviors I was viewing them as my savior. Sure that's team. Is there anybody. That was in New Orleans in your life at that time. That had any idea what you're going through mentally. My Chef I had a I had a chef at a hired and thank God you know, and again I'm not trying to brag, but I was going to New Orleans in a time period where I was really really struggling and on a football I. Try not to show that because and also it feels you know Aj the football field. That's our sanctuary. Right like that's our place where we get to go and. And just let go of absolute anything that's going on in your life. You know it could be relationship issues. It could be stuff which kids could be family members dat, you're quite place which sounds kind of crazy, but that's your place. Where you just okay, you can block out. And just focus on your passion, and so for me. I think my parents. My parents knew you know a little bit what I was going through, but you know the person that are really was you know really close with and saw on a daily basis. Folks Oughta. Time was was my chef and His name is Nelson gave on, and he's a great chef, but he really. became like that person that I just spoke to a lot about everything that was going on in my lifetime, he saw all the all the different ups and downs and I appreciate them because he listened. You know what I mean and a lot of times you know when a lot of times that's the most important thing is to be able to listen to just somebody when they're going through things and just in. It's not always about trying to get to answers, either. It's just about having somebody there to speak to to talk to. And that's my ship was for me and. And I appreciate them so much. We still talk to this day. We still keep in contact. I know. He was working for Willfuller down in Houston I'm not sure he's still working for him. But but yeah man so thankfully I, had you know somebody speak to again? It wasn't enough if I would be lying if I said it was enough that it was just you know my shift that I spoke to because You know he he wasn't. He wasn't there. He wasn't part of the process, so he didn't really understand it. You know on the level that I did. While I'm happy that you're chef gave a good ear to lean on I, heard some stories. From people that were in locker rooms that the Heisman was taken from U K the. Heisman taken from you. You weren't allowed to be a heisman winner, even though every human on earth voting for the heisman. That year that they tried to move that highs been to. Number two, and then you matt, who was number three, but that story has never been public. I only heard it in the locker room. Whatever talked about? Is that a true yet? That's a true story, and that's why Vince. Young Guy. That's why I've been selling. Is. is my boy respect. Appreciate him because Vince Show me love that. Even some of the closest people to me didn't even show you know what I'm saying like. Even some of the people who are built relationships with. Friends. You know people who out who I considered very close. Friends didn't even show me to Kinda. Love that Vince young showed me, and so it is too because they did try to give him the heisman trophy, and and I spoke to. You know it's funny because we interview Mack Brown. Last week on our show on our Fox show, and I spoke about that story with Mack Brown and MAG Brown set in background validated it because I didn't know he knew about it. but Brown said that Vince came to him and told him that they basically offered him the heisman trophy and He was GonNa turn down and Mike. Brown basically supported him and you know Vince, and they just beat us. US You know what I mean in the national championship, so he had every right to be like. Why not just beat them? You just beat USC. Just beat Matt liner. Just beat Reggie Bush. Who won the heisman trophy? This is my time. You know what I mean. This is my time to take. What's mine and what was rightfully mind and that's why I appreciate events, because even in that moment right even in that time. He. He wasn't a sucker period. He wasn't and he didn't go for whatever that they were trying to bring towards his way and I appreciate them for that. Because That's real. That's a real love and and you know. Spousal man I think that's so powerful. When I think about it, you know sometimes I. Get chilled on my back because. You Know He. He had every right. Every right to to say yeah, give me that heisman and he. Did you know what I mean and so then show McConnell loved at. Close to your show well in Mack Brown to by the way because that makes Mac looked better, they just weren't national championship, and they have a heisman winner so the fact that Mac. WHO IS COOL DUDE? I've got a chance to meet him a couple times the fact that he and Vince young like now. That's not our high. Everybody on Earth knows at Reggie's is when you can go and I think. I think that should be a story on I think that's because again. That's part of legacy. You know what I mean. That's that's. That's things that. We know that stories that you hear about you know hundreds of years later, and you just kind of you kind of somebody kind of accidents. Stumbles upon it, and then writes a story about it or whatever it is, but I really appreciate. You know for for just for that for the act of kindness or guests gesture whatever it was. You know didn't even have to be necessarily about me. You could have been just about him. Maybe he didn't want to feel. You know some type of way and at the end of the day. appreciate because I can't imagine that was easy decision. I can't imagine you just easily like. Thing that. A RACE! Have you invented a chance to speak about this? Have you been able to thank him in person? yeah, I spoke I spoke to him about it It was briefed, but I've never spoken by ugly until actually into last week until Mack Brown. Until. He was on the show and. And I just felt it was. It was the right moment to talk to Mike Brown about it to bring it up because why he's. He's on a great run at university. North Carolina Right now, it just got the fifth highest ranked recruiting class which is. which is crazy when you think about words, program was a couple years ago and MAG Brown obviously is a champion. He understands how to win how to get his guys now to that level, you know to to to where they can play at that level, and they believe now know that they can win the ACC and so I just think there's something to to mack. Brown's character that just screen success. You know an also you know. I. Thought it was what Vince did I thought it was a reflection of the kind of. Culture that you know he he raises his eyes and he brings. His players into? Now. Are you getting your heisman back now that the ten year? This is you have no idea this has been talked about. We'll see I mean. Less back. What are we doing, guys? They? Put out there. I. Have No idea, Eh? Conversations and things, but but again I don't want to If if he's not here not here. Now, they try to give it. Defense tried to give it to matt the hell away from for ten years. It seems like it's only right to give it back. But the NCWA EISMAN had made worse decisions before I wouldn't be surprised. What is it? Mike bone the. Director at USC. What is your relationship like with him? And what are the thoughts now? Let's assume the college football happens right. Let's assume college football is going to happen. What will the relationship with USC look like going forward? Do you know? Me and Mike Bone if great conversation already men, Mrs full who I think, the absolute world of We had an amazing amazing conversation. me and this Muniz lady who we've never met before you know we. We had a a zoom call and we spoke about our half, and it was just it was a great call man, really really call, and then I spoke with again like I said Mike Bone. And our relationship has been good and you know. Know, what is going to be good There's no reason for us to to not have a good relationship because mike bone in careful in everybody else. That's that's their none of them. Part of what happened. You know to me in two thousand five and during that time period. So you know this is something new, and I'm excited to to get to know these people I'm excited to. You know you know. GET BACK TO USC and into help you know. Just be round. Young guys being around the coach be around the team in and help you know. Get that coach back to what it was when we were there. Wretched this was ten years ago. Would you have? You think he would have had to think twice about coming like would. Would you have ever said no to their offer if they wanted to bring you back? it just. I truly believe in timing I believe. Timing is everything and ten years ago I. Don't know if I would have been in the right. Mental space to be able to you know handle something like that. I I believe. You know that I've matured and I've grown as a man. I've grown spiritually you know I've grown a lot of different areas and you know I? Just I, think the timing is right now, and I think the timing is perfect. Um and I also believe that God's timing is always right. Man is a lot of times where we want to control everything in our life and you know crazy, because and I'm sure you guys gonNA tested. This is funny. Just how much Control we don't have you know over our lives. And even though we like to think we do like to think that you know, we can show any and everything around, but we really don't. You know and I believe that the timing is right now and I believe that the timing is also perfect because and I believe also the people at USC are also the right people for us to embark on this new journey together with with me, and in careful in in a new ad, and and all the other people there I can't wait to get snow and I can't wait to get back. Can we talk about your time at USC YOU'RE A. Video game I mean it was. Some of the Shit you with do. They made no you're. You're cutbacks for. I got a chance to play with PAT. White and Steve Slayton and obviously incredible highlight reel players there, but it was felt like every time you're on national television. It was Musi the old stock. Cut Back and then the bush. Push obviously against Aj's brother-in-law. Back your USC time aside from the way it ended right and I assumed that could be a little bit gloomy, so you might not even like to take the trip down memory lane until this happened, but when you look back on your career, what are some of the things that jump out I? Mean I the only thing I think about all the incredible highlights in just and I would assume like there's there's some of that for you as well or one hundred percent. The things that I take away is when we played on Saturdays in Asia Yo. You guys tested, thank. You. Know about that maybe not. Know, we play Games. That's that's that's party time time to go have fun and just let at aggression. Stress Out. You know whatever it is. That's your time to go out there and just release. You know and That's why you know so important for us to be exhausted after games, because if you not exhausted and you might still have some tens up energy in there, but you know it's. It's you feel. Did you feel like you were just faster than every like? I've never felt this feeling before have remind, did you? Just like I did I did. It I did I was fascinated by. Jeez I mean those. But you know what it's funny, so kids always asked me and I actually posted about this. Kids always asking me instagram or social media. How do you get faster? And I told him go run track and field. If you ran track and field, you will come back more explosive athlete you. You'll come back faster. You're gonNA build your cardiovascular. You're going to build your endurance so you're gonNA. Come back more faster explosive, and then if you match that up with agility, you mashed up with power right like a linebacker it up with you know wingspan, and all these different things so free athlete. You know what I'm saying and so. You know for me. I'll always. Gone back to one I ran track in high school. That was the best decision I ever made because he just turned me into a a very explosive athlete I was already. You know very shifty, but now this game me a different level, and so always felt like I was faster than guys you know on the football field is not like I was more explosive and for me. I fell in love with the art of just making people miss, and and that was my specialty. That was the thing that when I was in little league. I watch Barry Sanders and I watched dion. Sanders I'll watch you know all the different running backs, and I kind of took a little piece of all of them and I tried to mold it into myself so the cutback. You know honestly that just came from when I was little, I didn't want guys to touch. Don't touch me. Stay over there. I. Don't WanNa. Get hit and I just became good at not getting hit. You ran a couple of two hundred yard eighty yard runs. It was it was unbelievable to watch. Reggie. I had a question about a guy who made people miss in a different way in your running mate. USC, what was your relationship like with? Linda White and you to share your success in sharing the backfield. What's your relationship like with Lindau now? Yeah, Lindos Lindos my brother and You know it's funny because. Meal in Del at when we first, so we got USA it was competition and there was no space for weakness. There was no space for You know not taking care of Your Business. Because there was Hershel Dennis there was me was chauncey Washington was a Lyndale and we had another running back hammer who it was, but we have a pack backfield, and so you had to compete and you know as you guys know a lot of times in those competitions you know especially on the football field gaskin fights. You know what I mean. There can be jealousy. There can be resentment. Nick, just it's just competition, right? And so there was one famous meeting One famous meeting that we were having so during training camp as a team as offense, we will clown around a lot and we would have the charade wars and so. The running backs go against the quarterbacks and receivers, and it would be literally in the middle of a meeting. And the receivers were would like literally. Kick our door, anything I. Let let's go. And so it was like right there on the spot, we will start playing charades, and so, what happened was. So had was. There was some you know we were young. Somebody took something and I think Lyndale took something from you know the receivers, and it was like the fight by the breakout or whatever it was. And, so we go back to our room and mainland del Start Chirping at each other, and then mean land dill, literally drop are and we're about to throw hands. What about the fight? And we end up, not fighting, but from that day forward Mayland del always have respect for each other because i. think we both saw okay. You're not backing down I'm not backing down, so let's just go to work together and we ended up. You know becoming best friends. We ended up. You know we're brothers. Now and I just spoke to him the other day, and I think the world of man, and and honestly I couldn't have done it without him. Because Lyndale was probably of anybody on that team, he pushed me the most because we just competed against each other all the time and he brought something different to the game now he brought the power and. The big runs I was more of the the flash and always kind of wanted to do what he did. You know anytime. See Him going into run a couple of people over our. We try to go on and run a couple of people over you know what I mean, so it was that competition that we had. We were always trying to outdo each other shreds. Do be like. Oh. You have no idea in the quarterback cheat because they already had to hand signals. and. How do you know what I mean? How do you beat that well? Let's Pekair like up Carol. Get along, or or how he was during that time period. Man Pete me and Pete really got along. I really appreciate Pete because he brought the energy that we needed as young guys on team And you know. He pushed us to to obviously to be accountable and a football field to work our butts off. You know every time we step on the field but also love the fact that he made football fund staying that a lot of coaches can't do that. You know I don't know how many coaches you guys been around, but a lot of coaches. You know some of them more of them more often than not they make a stressful. And so. When you find coaches that I like players coaches. You know we all hear these stories about me like damn. You had a players coach. Phenomena right. It's like this thing that not everybody gets and so when somebody does get a players coach and they're also winning. You like you almost jealous on the spot because you like Damn y'all went in anger having fun. You know what I'm saying, and so you know I always appreciate about coastal because he may football fun, you know he will bring Will Ferrell around to crack jokes on our team will bring. Garryowen Different Comedians I met Kevin Hart when he was. Nobody you know when Kevin Hart Garryowen brought Kevin Hart to do. Stand up for our team, and that's how we develop ship on the spot, and so all these guys I'm talking about now you know, have relationships with, and and that's kind of the culture that coastal created. Rages it is you're going to have to get back. Those ways of like beauty store. I was in college. The same you. Know. kiani stops by when. Things like that happen. Is You. Get back to that two words like you guys are movie stars and they're all coming to watch you like. They need to get back to that level to start winning again. Well this this is what I know. anytime I was on that football field, and I looked across on the sideline, and I saw Marcus Allen or I saw snoop Dogg or are saw carol. You know our saw whoever it was that gist energized us even more and I'm not saying that that was the main reason you know we you know we were. We do what we did on the field, but there's a little bit of you know that that Super Star power. You know that you know just elevates the game you know it's and we see it all the time. In an NBA Games right see people seeing sitting courtside Laker Games Jack Nicholas. You know all these all these people in and It just adds to I think acid experience I don't think it's a bad thing. I love looking across the suit, and all these guys over there supporting us because I knew what that meant and I knew that You know that meant that we had. Had An opportunity to do something special on the biggest stage and I. Don't know of USC needs to get back to directly that because to me, that's you know. We got to build the culture I you know. We got to build a coach of winning I. Because you build a culture of winning the celebrities, come right, so you build a culture of winning the fans going to show up, and so let's build a culture of winning I and unless Larry Body Else Jump On the bandwagon when I was at West Virginia. We had a guy that drank and entire keg in one hour on. Was a big deal. Right I really want in five degrees take. Let's talk about you getting into the NFL. You're into Saints Hall of Fame Congratulations. Two Thousand Nineteen. Is Huge. You WanNA Super Bowl against the team that I was on your punt returner against me and Super Bowl I shit my pants couple of times. But going in now that I'm hearing you talk about your mental state of mind whenever you want to new, Orleans and how much you were going through because of what happened at USC when you think about your transition to the nfl what was your thoughts on that did the game. Was the game harder easier than what you thought or did you have? Gone so much harder. To me, it was so much harder than than what I thought. Because guys were were now just as fast as me. You know what I mean like at the college level. You can get away with just outrunning people. You can get away with you know. You can get away with a lot of things in college, because most of those guys you playing against aren't GonNa go pro right, and that's just the reality and so. You know just out running people at NFL level. In remember my first game. I, first preseason game was against Dallas Cowboys and Michael a swing pass, and we're probably like the five yard line, and is me and demarcus ware and I just already knew I was a touchdown newest. Outrun him, and he caught me. ran step for step with me and you know, demarcus. His Wingspan is crazy and so he was still in his prime, and he ran me down. That was my first introduction. Really into the speed of the game happens are really starting to understand that okay these D- Linemen are just as fast as me These linebackers are just as fast so I. I gotta find a way to try to gain an edge because now I can't just rely on athleticism anymore. I gotta get smarter I gotTa Get. Knowledge I gotta get all these things to get myself in edge and It was tough I, ain't you my rookie year? I was people was trying to knock my head off. It felt like every game. public enemy number one. It felt like every game. You know guys you know when you come from a story program went to heisman trophy now. Championship guys WanNa. Try You, they WANNA know. Is this real? Saying is when I seen on TV. Is that real and I. A lot of games man where where I just felt like you guys was just trying to knock me out taking me out the Games and The night before games through there, watching and everybody's hyping up Reggie Bush best athletes ever come on, you and you got these guys who? Going to see. A Real Sea. That's real. Training Camp Mark ridged. Like in was that when you still going to Mississippi and I know Sean Payton does. Hit in training camp at six thousand degrees. Yeah, so Sean Payton now is not the same Sean, Payton. Rookie year two thousand six I love going into the locker rooms now and partying in there. They got strobe lights They got music going my what the Hell is this? I've never seen this before and so You know I appreciate it though because I know what it took to get there. You know what I mean. I know to work load and I know. You know I. Know Was Sean had to go through to get to that point because when he first got to New Orleans. you know he wanted to change the culture man and he had to because the culture of New Orleans. Saints before Shah got their got, their was not winning. weren't getting the job done. They were the aints and you know, and also of the year before hurt your of Hurricane Katrina, too. So it was just a lot of uncertainty about the team about the city about our stadium and so you know Sean did a great job in a pod him because he came in there as you know. Demanding respect and demanding accountability, and demanding all these things from from from us. and I think it was the right thing to do I. Think also the same time. There were times where people didn't like Sean ties. People Hated Sean because you know of that the kind of environment he was running. It wasn't a loose ship anymore. and he was demanding. You know that everybody was accountable for themselves. And everybody got their work done and There were times where teams pushback training camp Because again we were in Mississippi, and it was a hundred and twenty degrees every day the humidity was like one hundred percent. And we were still doing edge. You remember those real two days like I just really. The real ones. Where Yeah, run your again the morning. Those real two days. I believe short career by about four or five years. I think I can still play. Had I not had to do nine hundred seven to start off practice every day you know what I mean and one on one blocking drills will linebackers who are two hundred and fifty pounds. You know what I mean. That was that was hard to do in the get done, and when I look back on it, I felt like I survived it for like It was something that you necessarily helped me. I just feel like survived like death. I survived death a great way to. Now in this is a completely ignorant question, but looking back for holiday, explosive and dynamic of a player you were you were healthy. Remain healthy on a very regular basis, and then obviously you've got an ACL there gets rams. But what was was that all off? See like what was like I. Don't know what do you attribute that to? Well I'll be honest with you. Attribute allowed knee injuries to church to the to the turf that they do appoint on and I know a lot of times, and this is the thing I want so badly to see you know get done nfl because I believe is going to save injuries. I believe it will save bodies. Get back to playing on grass and it's the reason I got a chance to To to get to know stiebel shoddy, the owner of the of the box, Ravens, a little bit and Baltimore used to be on turf on. If you guys remember, they went back to grass, because of those reasons because they were having players who were getting injured at a very high rate, and I also attribute a lot of injuries to Turt- I think that turf of again I don't. Don't care how soft you try to make. It is still not real grass, and it still puts too much. Distort on your knees when you mashed up with these explosive athletes, and I think so from this the turf and also leading unhealthy lifestyle You know when I was twenty. One twenty two years old I wasn't eating great how to shift, but now I didn't understand just. I was eating chicken, and and you know all MAC and cheese and mashed potatoes I was immoral loosening almost. Every other day and I wasn't eating enough. Fruits and vegetables and enough so you can get away with that when you twenty one, twenty, two, twenty three, but now charter to do that. It'd take my body forever recover. So you know now understand on different level just how important it is to really focus on eating properly and especially you know as you're trying to. Produce on a football field. Meet you every little edge you can gain is important, so I'll tribute to filter and just not eating well enough. You know not eating good enough I was eating a lot, but just it wasn't great food. A reg I can't thank you enough for your time. Man Your transition abruptly. I love watching it on TV. You really good at it. I hope he keep. Appreciate you guys. Thanks for having me on. Aj We have some battles on the field man, but always appreciated. Go Reggie whenever you're taking on when you're taking on this. Jaw Line Aj. And you're looking at film. What is like okay? We got a little stocky white guy here big jaw he's. Probably can make him miss. Is there a game plan going? And is that something as a running back that you look at like okay? What is WHO's the people we stay away from? What's an easy way to beat? Said Caucasian like is there. Does that. Aj was thumper man, so we knew run game. He was going to be extra aggressive. we knew is gonNA. Come Down Hill. You know China China. put his his helmet. You know in the middle of our linemen, and so you know we just. When I was in Detroit that's what I'm talking about. Where we had our battles and when I was in Detroit offense a system that we ran. We always spray is out. We always tried to keep the box light, and so you know for me, is just tried to. you know, just make sure I was always aware Aj was because I, knew he was always coming down hill, and when you play against linebacker that are coming down hill. They will knock your ass out if you don't if you don't see them coming, you know what I'm saying. Itself always knew the kind of play all study. My opponents, always new contemplate AJ was very far player, very instinctual and He was thumper, and so you just know you just have to be aware of you know when you're living in those trenches of just where certain guys at all times man, and so I knew in in the trenches it was going to be tough, but I knew I got AJ. Back, as receiver split the boy out there, he couldn't handle. Know, who can this problem auto? In Detroit. Okay, it's third down I got a man most likely. Not Muslim to empty at number one, so he's out. There slot receiver I'm playing like Dion Sanders out there. Coverage Reggie phone side by making amazing catch like don't act like this is a mobile play. Scheme that play up man just that we knew star down knew we had you man. Most meal, wide and I was praying. God Matt didn't get off me. on on their review so but. The anyway at the NFL when you play known. In these divisional games, you have these rivalries and you gotta find every little edge. You can get because they've seen your stuff already. I've already studied it enough and you know obviously Green Bay was smart team. Great team. So you know we ask some great battles. The team always made me better. Reggie Funny Story About Aj Hawk being thumper when he was a sophomore in high school. At Centerville High School in Ohio. They have an alumni game. We're all these old drunks, pads and play. High School Team Turk herbstreet was one of those guys Aj want helmet to Jong Oh. Yes, as a sophomore in high school ended Kirk streets entire career he's. Since Sophomore in high school. That's. The Week A Reggie. You're the best man, thank you so much. You deserve the heisman. You're electric on the football field. We're all very lucky to watch it and you on TV is amazing as well. Ladies and gentlemen heisman winner. Super Bowl champion, living legend Reggie Bush. Thank you thank you so much. And that's got to feel pretty good said you're thumper I. Don't think there's a better compliment for a linebacker. Then what he just said you know granted. He said I get him in space fucking done. From that I think that is a great compliment. What a hey! Whatever? He was going back in the day. It was unbelievable. You hit I. mean you hit it like when it's like a step back to the whole defense run by. He's every rotten seem like highlight reel run. Do It was out of a movie? The step back shit. He would do because he would even lift. The the ball would even be up like this and you will see seven. And then he was just gone the other way well. I'm so happy joined us. They're great conversation and I almost lost it I'd have hard time voting on early on it for exactly what was going on when you? Over. Couldn't help look at Your I. was looking at you and I was trying to hold a straight face in. Book I was. Asked basic? Thought ME REGGIE POTENTIAL GONNA hate each other down. About halfway through. We came home. You know what I mean. 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Oh, man I couldn't have even fathom being Ritchie pushback Yeah Butch Matt Liner Lyndale white that whole crew you match like all the the actors and celebrities, and all these people wanted to hang out with them than the players want to hang out with the celebrity. He was the biggest star assume. ASSUME IN LA whenever he was there. I mean he was there on national TV every single week in every single week. He was doing something that was insane. This was before twitter. Imagine twitter, or any of these tiktok who knows any of these viral platforms that there are Reggie Bush would have been at the top of every single week. It would have been like Reggie Bush training Bush's trending Holy Shit. Reggie is trending. So many things. He was the next level and I'm happy that with his rekindling here the. Stoppage of the disassociation with? More and more people who weren't around whenever he was hot are going to get to see his highlights because i. think that's what's coming. Next is all other reliving the Reggie Bush glory days. I'm here for it all the way here for. Well I didn't realize like. Did you have any idea? Was that difficult for him? When they took the heisman away from him, and all this stuff was happening I i. Guess You just look at assume like Oh everything. What do you mean? He carries making a bunch of money. He's playing. Great the NFL now who cares? That's I guess what people we don't really get time to think about. That wouldn't tell. It's a real person like real. Things are happening. Happening to them. He's very bummed out that the school that he put on the map. He probably feels like our help. Put on a map. He's not even allowed to go back and visit. He's not even allowed to talk to anybody. Nobody sees even talking carols gone. He has zero connection to them. He's family is in with him although he's a first round draft pick. He didn't get picked over Mary Williams. Remember who's draft strictly to sack peyton manning. Charley casserly eventually got fired for that. That was a big deal, but yeah, the thought of what was going on in between his ears, while this was all happening while trying to figure out the NFL while being a target for everybody I. Mean There's a lot for a guy to handle. He comes out as a super bowl. Champion Saints Fame member. I hope he gets his heisman back. He's back with USC. Come full circle, but there for a little bit I'm sure he was many. Set him suicidal stuff. That's crazy. I would have never guessed that. The! We didn't I mean. Maybe we'll have monitored at some point, but we didn't really get into cal. How long did he see? CHEF CHEF guy was wanted to Kinda lean on, and he keeps listen the guy. He could have impersonal. Listen to I. Guess you're always. Do you think he was living with him I? Don't know I never really understood the whole chef thing. Did you ever Shefa? I do not have a chef now on now. Who did? No I never had a show. This you see food and shelter I do that myself. I'd be that myself. Hey Man, couple shrimp hell year. A The chef thing I never understood though there's all these nutritional supplements now, but I didn't understand the chef like. Did they live at the People's house? Like? Did you wake up and they're? They're make brick. Dj Callard made it seem as if the chef is just. They're living at the house on on his snapchat. I don't know, but that's smart. Move ahead of his time by the way getting chef, not not a lot of guys doing back there now. It's kind of like the modern move is. Everybody does that Aj I'm so happy. Reggie came in I didn't know if it was going to happen. I had no idea what's going to happen. That was cool condo. I never knew I didn't know how long we had him so. Fifteen minutes and I thought okay. See we re using too much registered. What forty minutes I had no idea either. I was I trying to get a read on his answers on. How miserably was because normally at the end? Yeah, I tried hard a lot of fun. Vets out here now he was going. He I think he potentially enjoyed that conversation. I mean I hated the first ten fifteen minutes because the amount of disrespect. It was happening, but That I mean I really enjoyed it a lot. Was Did you hear him. Mack Brown, about the whole Vince Young heisman situation now I actually heard in the locker room, but at that point he knows in a locker room, so I said I had to hear it from somebody in the locker room just to carry on. I wanted to save go the entire show with him thinking I never played football before soldiers trying to do that Oh thing, but we had somebody who from Texas maybe. They're on the team and we were indulging vitamins together I don't know if he's stuck on our team. If he's pranks by forget, it was, it was a conversation and it came up. It was like they tried to give Reggie's heisman venture. Whatever and Vince said no, and I was like like the conversation just moved past it, but high me was like. They, try to I. Don't know if anybody knows that and I had to keep that one bundled inside for a long time, because it was not public also, I didn't know the guy that well, so it was like easy for the shit or not, so then when I was if I ever talked to Reggie I am going to ask him about this and here it is I guess. Last week he started talking about for the first time. Yeah, that was a real thing. The heisman people were like Oh. This is yours now because it's no longer Reggie's invents now this is, but it's not nine. That's awesome by the way because that is I mean if. Heisman just shows up on your front door I. Mean that's kind of tough to be like I. Don't want that fucking thing out of here. Get I get a lot of credit, but the thing is though so he like rekindled his relationship with USC but they're the heisman. Committee, are they still say his year that nobody won the heisman that you go to the website? He'd just skip over the year. I have no idea I would assume that it would only be right to give the guy back. It's Heisman, especially at this point with his relationship at USC I would assume on Tuesday June twenty third after talking to him, and hearing how speaking about how much it really affected him like I think that is a much deeper conversation I assume the. The NC, double A. and heisman people never really had like Oh. Should we worry about? This guy is a human at all that we just completely disassociate everything. You just accomplished in his entire life like I. Bet you they never even thought about that as I. Didn't I never even thought about Reggie? Caring about that because he's Reggie Bush is always the thought, but now hearing Intel historian. I think more and more. He talks in a more and more he goes back to. I think it's only a matter of time before the heisman people. We were wrong about this. In fact, try to give Vince fucked up to. And then your team. But then also matte line wants. Vince said No. We're like well. Fuck Him. Go to mathematical showed up their ass. You did or Vincent I would. Intercept took it away from me. I don't want back now. Here's so noble. You're talking about Reggie Yeah. Oggi's now if I'm Reggie I'm taking that thing so I can put it up in. I would for sure, and also by the way I'm giving another speech I'm giving another heisman ceremony has if I just wanted to? On the actual heisman website, it just keeps you a five I mean OJ. Simpson's still has a couple and they won't give Reggie one. I'll tell you what. I'm just saying. fucking Oj how about him get? How do we get him on this show? How do we get Oj? Simpson on this show. I have some questions I. Know, we'll be actually. How would you start off the talk if we had no jail? Glazing Gentlemen Hall of Famer former Heisman winner and alleged murder O. J. Sad. Doesn't hang there. Hey guys. This little thing if he doesn't hang up there then I lead into J. with all the Juve accomplished both in movies and on the football field when you thought about getting into being an author, and you said if I would have done it. This is how I would have done it. Do you think that was a great news for you? Let's start there. That's what I would start. I I honestly think he might enjoy that interview because he's talked around and east, talking circles around everything so I think it'd be fun. Maybe we'll get him. zito reach out. Don't get too close. Don't get to our gloves. Yeah definitely I'm cutting. This is for Covid nineteen I these. kind of small Reggie's. Knifeman Reggie was awesome did. She's Reggie was awesome. He really was. That was a cool calm Ville. He doesn't do a lot of interviews he doesn't it a lot of people. That I I told a couple of. Potential can have Reggie on this morning show, and then this show, and they're like maybe baby sure. Maybe maybe that's always the things like maybe may because I think he's kind of like I don't know he has kids now he's married. He's at a whole different world and I. Don't know how much he enjoys time about everything. I think that's something that obviously hit him pretty. Oh, so thankfully joined us for that conversation forty minutes to shit. We think about most things I guess most people that reach out to him that WANNA speak to him is probably about like how what are your feelings like now towards this negative thing that happened to you and your life like it's all like he's like all right I could probably talked about this enough I. Don't go into it every other day all right well. Aj thanks to his by the way getting on board three Bucks Harry's. Fash Pat McAfee. They're giving things away. Somebody I think this is the actual. I think this is probably what you get here. Oh. Don't do AJ. Ergonomic handle cause for a nice affirmed. Respect Ergonomics. Oh, there's nothing in there. Yeah, okay, yeah, this is what you get three bucks. Need Goner Aj this ray here this razor. Sharp? OJ would not use this, but. Lost Areas I think. OJ Aj. Zena! There's no reason for that. Go back to your vacation I. Don't think we'll have a show. Thursday or Friday because I have a Bachelor Party weekend and I'm going onto golf basketball. Goal where are you going? I think we're going to golf up in Michigan, it was supposed to be Colorado then we ended up doing Michigan because drivable and on top on a plane. If you know anything about the laws in both Colorado Michigan why we chose to go to said states. I think I might know. Marijuana use, walking. I do believe. Believe I've been getting real into golf Aj. I heard you already pretty much scratch. I'll tell you what if me and the flagstick have a real conversation and figure it out. There's a chance I. get very low very soon I. figured out my swing. I am very happy about it. I am a whole `nother level of golf. I'm enjoying golfing. I'm actually having the mindset when golf like I'm going to try to do good today like as opposed to like I'm just to hit the shit out of the ball a couple of times. Maybe I'm having a thought like you know what I'm. GonNa do good today. It's a good feeling to have I. Haven't had to sprite ten ten years. Do you think one quick weekend could derail whole situation Bingo. BINGO couple early tee. Times too I'm. Always reacts see how the boys react, so we will see you next Monday Aj from Florida myself from Indianapolis all the boys. We can't thank you enough for fucking with us. Reggie Bush. What a man! What a legend and we will see on Monday Aj. Anything say to the people here whenever we won't see him for a couple of days. Yeah, we'll be back Monday. Pat Have Fun as we decided. To hear stories about what you did. Aj was invited by the way he chose to go down to Florida with his family and forty, five, hundred, zero selfish. 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That is in the eye of the holder I've been to a couple of those galleries in I've seen things much worse than that. So for a lot of money with those drunk art purchasers, but let's Talk Darren let's talk about Dak Prescott signing that franchise tag for thirty one point four million. The last time you joined us. You told us a couple of things you talked about how your? Your office overlooks the practice field which I found alarming found that a bit alarming because I assume there're some secret things that could potentially get out, but you said Dak Prescott. has this workhorse like mentality. He's out there all the time in. Basically, he's a guy that. If you were to build a team, you would put on his shoulders. It seems like Jerry Jones and or closer and closer to that inevitability. Closer to to that and I would not be surprised by in July, which is gonna be the deadline as far as redoing a contract that they get this thing done at some point, but you know again I got has been that guy he's done. Everything is organization has asked of him, and his tenure here is. The cowboy came in his first year. He became an instant leader. He was a guy that showed up every day consistently did the things that they asked for him to do. And Beyond and one of the biggest problems that this organization has had even before that got. Your was a leadership issue, a ton of talent. But couldn't get over the Hump because they didn't have those guys that were true leaders that help them young kid. ACURA quarterback position. WHO's willing to go that extra mile and he still doesn't have a long term deal. So this is for the cowboys are looking at the same as we gotta get this deal done, and not knowing what the salary caps going to look like in the future. This asked to get done by July I would assume because of all the things that you just said is why Prescott was standing so firm on what he wanted because they could have paid them a year ago. They chose not to do that. They rolled the dice he had his. His best season yet now going into a season with Mike, McCarthy who is an incredible offense of quarterback coach I mean that is just well known by. If you look through any of his dad's with his work with you, name it, he might have his best year yet. Nobody knows what's going to happen with the salary cap. So, what do you think they do with the deal? Do you think it will be largely based on? If the salary cap moves, he'll get a percentage of the salary cap. Like how do you think they make this deal happen by? Here's the hangup hangups. On how many years hangup is cowboys wanting five years? He wants it. He wants a four year deal which I totally understand I mean you want the flexibility to say. I play four years and I move on and go on to the next week. With because with the cowboys are GonNa? Do is lockdown with five years, and we all know who's in control the franchise tag again five year deal, and when you're five years up, they're gonNA. Lock you. They said well. We're on a long-term bill. We're GONNA franchise. Tag You again which they have. The option to do so. If I'm Jack, I'm going four years. I WANNA, stick to my guns and make sure I. Won't because it's not on. The fact that you just said they had this option last year to get him sign, it should have got him. Son didn't happen now. He's GonNa stick to this GonNa have the leverage on I. Want a four year deal. Let's figure it out. How are the cowboys can afford everybody how? I just thought about the rams the rams last year they paid everybody boom boom. They had a team. They went on Iran. And then now they're literally having to implode that entire thing because they don't have the ability to build a team around their salary cap because they're strapped on the cash. How will the cowboys be able to afford everybody including the thought that Jamal, Adams potentially comes the cowboys on a restructured deal for less money, because he understands the market value of being a cowboy. How do they afford everybody moving forward? I mean and the God's true so when you start the Siamese players. You start to sign up through priority. Who's WHO's a priority Dak Prescott priority, but he's been sitting there. Waiting on Amari Cooper to get signed on Zeke, Elliot to get signed on Zack Martin to get sign, so he sat there and wait. This is not his problem. Trust me, this is not a Dak. Prescott problem. This is a Dallas Cowboy problem and that problem has to be. You know as any other team has. Is You're watching with the rams? You're going to lose players. Good players, superstar players in order to get your guy sign, and that's going to be offensive line. There are GonNa take hit, which has been their strength for the longest time. Defensive players young players who are coming up. We're going to have to go the Byron Jones though the world has gone to Miami. You're going to have to you're GONNA. GonNa, start seeing these cowboy team start losing players as time goes on as well superstar players as well. Everybody says Jerry Jones is making these decisions. We've all seen him on draft night on his yacht. Miami a looked amazing, a great draft night, but who is the one that has to manage the salary cap is that Steven Jones, Gig, like who is that Jerry Jones hand on being like okay, if we pay this guy seven thousand dollars. Jones Stephen Jones, Stephen, Jones and look. That relationship is a great father, son relationship, but I love both of them. They just been. Awesome for me throughout my career, and after, but Stephen is a guy who's going to be crunching numbers will mcclay is the acting. GM as as you would say, because will McLean one who's running the day to day as far as personnels concern, but it's going to be up to those to figure out how they get up under the CAP, and what? The cab looks like still don't know what's going to look like here in in the future months Andrew Brandt joined us. Yesterday has the business of sports podcasts former Green Bay, packers, executive and agent. He said that the a lot of other sports, potentially a forty percent of their income coming from day two days. Whatever the stadiums are open in the NFL. It's only fifteen to twenty percent because of the massive. TV deals that they are making so he might see. See a potential dip in a salary cap, but he doesn't think it'll be as drastic as the MLB, the NBA potentially or anything like that, and he could be completely wrong so I'm not a hundred percent sure how they like. How has nobody's negotiating long-term deals right now, Christian? McCaffrey got a long term deal, which was nobody expected. It was big for running back, but he's not just a running back, but everybody else is kind of sitting back and saying hey, listen. We can't lock anything long term until we know what the Hell's going to happen this season because that's the future salary cap. Is that why Dak Prescott signed a franchise tag? You think because that conversation happened between Stephen. That's what happened. That's really wise. I have flu that compensation. Has has happened in. He had to get this deal done. Listen I, I think the one thing I want to say about taxes. Everything again, Bassim and do he's pretty much done. He's not gonNA fight the fact of yeah, this is the situation now. We all understand where the situation is I'm going to be franchise tag. As of now I'm GONNA set up. I'll sign it. I'll being camp. I'll do all the little things that they're asking me to do and ask that. I've asked up to I'm not gonNA ruffle any feathers. Mike McCarthy's offense now going to be there day one. You won't see this guy holding out doing all those things that that's the expectation. That locker room knowing he's going to do what's right for the team? But at some point you have to look and I. I'm looking at July July at some point. He's going to have to do what's right for Dak Prescott as well and show leverage to say maybe I. Don't show up. Maybe I do something a little different What I absolutely want because he's been, he's going to go gone along company lines for the longest time everything you just said right. There made me think that even Jones and Jerry Jones if the locker room knew that he was going to do what's right by the team all the posturing by both sides. None of it mattered because they knew at the end. They would have deal. That's that's a very interesting thing to know if you're. You're on the side that has to negotiate the deal to give up your own money knowing that that person. Hey, this guy such a good guy. This guy now granted that would probably worn a long term deal, and let's get this right because he is such a, but also remember good guy won't be doing anything to really screw us over the and that is. That's an interesting. That's exactly that's a very interesting thing there with deck. Do you think he signed the franchise tag when everybody thought he wasn't going to. Until July fifteenth, so that he and Mike McCarthy can get to work whether it's visa. Pause facetime stuff. you know I think this is more about not only him, but a lot of players in that locker room. Star coach McCarthy brings in something. That's a little different than than what they've had to pass it with Jason Garrett they all have to get on the same page and with Corona. There has not been a lot of face to facebook the players. It's been everything's been virtual so they. They're playing from behind right now and a guy like that. He's GonNa. Have to get his hands around this offense, so we don't sign a deal. You know you're going to be playing at some point. signed the deal. Let's get into camp. Let's get into two know. Know what coach McCarthy Watts? What's what he's? Strengths and weaknesses are how I fit into the scheme. Let's move forward. Let's get going and I. think that's the mentality daring. You're a three time super bowl champ. All pro cowboys ring of honor member I mean legend through and through in the NFL. Do you see any chance at the? NFL doesn't go off without a hitch. There'll be no fans in the stands, but I see zero possibility that the NFL Benz or breaks because of the covid nineteen I i. honestly I see them going off here we go. This is our season. They made that they ll. They announced that schedule and there was no alternative. There's no like if this APP is the NFL's like this. What we're doing and covert nineteen don't like it. They can get the hell. Do whatever they need to do that I. think that's what the NFL is going to do. That I'm right there with you is thirty two owners that have been strong-minded owners for the longest time, Derek. This season is going to go the NFL's a different monster than it. Major League baseball the NBA. They are strong headed and they're going to say the season's GonNa Start. We're not going to bend. We're going to go. We're going to move forward. Corona. Figure it out. I can really see Roger Goodell by the way in his basement with. Two runners. Just GonNa have to figure it out. Does Jamal Adams half to be traded at this point. Because like pat was talking about yesterday like walking into that locker room after all this news. Come out like how hard would that be in? Is there any chance that it would be to the cowboys? Man. You know what guys I'm not sure man I. Really You always look I'm I'm the biggest of all atoms fan out there? It's good and I know what he said is probably ruffled some feathers within his own locker room. Probably has you know part of it, but you know this kid has been. First of all the jets don't have a whole lot of talent. Play him around price, so that's one thing anger talking about their top maybe top two three guy best player on their football team outside of Sam Darnold. So this is a guy that you need to get signed. Don't play games with him. He's a young football player. Get them side now if they do trade them I don't know if it's you know we always say well, you know a player is going to go to certain a certain team, and it never happens. It never happened that way. He's ends up going somewhere else. They find another trade partner they move on. Do the cowboys won them absolutely? Are The cowboys going? Be Willing to give up. With the jets want in return. You're probably not, that's not I. Don't think that's going to be the case. The cowboys are GONNA play hardball in this situation. We talked about this the other day. Jamal Adams wanting out in the instagram post and he had just last night. He said he's going to Miss Bowling with another jet teammate so I mean he's doubling tripling down his message that he wants out of there, and obviously his agent Dr Schefter and off all these things, but the thing about the NFL is the players have no choice control nine nine. A lot of people were tweeting us like it doesn't matter. He's not going anywhere if if the jets. And by the way, that's one hundred percent true like if the jets don't want to move him. How miserably is if he wants to sit out? Do whatever you gotta do. They can hold on him as long as they want. And that is a very interesting situation for Jemaah, and that is a disgruntled fit situation for a young man to be in that. His peak of his career is to say the team really doesn't want me. They don't want to do a long term deal. They're not willing to trade me sitting in Locker Room. The guys in his locker room are looking at me sideways by the fact that yeah amazing comments. And now I gotta go out and play and get the fan base rally behind me. That's a tough situation to be in man I. Admire that situation for for. Forum, but at the same time he laid he he. made their bed now. You gotTA figure it out. How long did you play for the cowboys thirteen? was that the only place you played s the only place I know? Clues yeah, that's awesome because we had Robert Mathis in here, I only played for the Colts Rate Years Robert Mathis game in fourteen years, the only played for the coats, and I was talking to him about how that rarely happens especially with the cowboys that very rarely happens good for you man. A. Nice run, man and I and I'll tell you all this. We talk about the Jones family and I'm probably one of the hardest ones that code go on the Joneses and Troy Aikman of course. Troy does not hold back all Jerry and Stephen a lot of my time for troy to. Exactly. This this that that family has been special on and off the field. It's not just myself. It's the Micheal Irvin System. You ask the Emmett Smith and the Dias Sanders. The Jones family has been special on and off the field and I would say even more so. Off the field in my business endeavors, they have just they've been rock solid, and so it's hard sometimes to come on. 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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 3)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

38:15 min | 10 months ago

Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 3)

"I hope I hope I hope qualifiers on the back end of that I'm getting my hair done I don't want to get it done crispy is going to be real crispy but it's GonNa be soggy if would most vibrant whoop whoop tomorrow morning because the dodgers are going to be celebrating his art of a couple dancer polls in the gym dance along with some fake hundred dollar bills being pushed hey from I love Lucy basically yes I know but yes it's always funny when a university exactly the sloop is like athletic director whoever's with the director who size off on and she looked at each other and go you do have you had the snoop online and do you know anything about it Lou man so in the basketball world particular college basketball you know they like to put on concerts and midnight madness and all these sort of things so dell's and he's putting out the money that's what you're GonNa get snoops going to be snoop if you go hire a snoop or a ice cube or any sort of now through a fake gun and so they were not very happy with it it was distasteful to allow that Jay Hawk fan base he thinks snoop was gonNA show up and do a Paul Anka Snoop Doggy Dogg from here in southern California competent loan beach you know all the good rap music he'll be listening so he took his act the cat is this university's basketball program and coach Bill Self I think that's always say his name threaten Win Out in reached out to one help you yeah go ahead how about national bring your Teddy Bear to workday Oh stayed at home according according to this article it was the Athletic Department we made it clear the entertainers managers that we expected a clean version the conversation with them is I'm snoop I'm GonNa do what I do they thought he would just go rap and now it's pretty much it but when he put the polls out there in the girls was dancing it is so they obviously didn't have a line of communication with Snoop Snoop said in in his said he was GonNa do I have no idea Paul like in the air warm out there travel top for the game today could like I'll be wearing it at the bar but it's also I don't have a national days because I ripped it out for the committee it'd be a Paul Anka Paul a little wayne he might have some lean up there and everything else what they have Paul Anka for you the show which new 'cause you know what that's not true a clean version of show and took additional steps to communicate this to our fans and grizzly bear to Teddy. Yeah there's a difference hey beer dealer's choice type of whatever you APP or it is there are certain things that you need to look for and understand what's what it's going to be sure you're not bringing a little wayne if a little wayne the sound like whatever that guy is has it wasn't very happy why because rapid like your heart soup dog jumped in they didn't appreciate art where it gets tricky men do I pull them do I let him hit do I not let him hit do I take a shot here do I start a runner do we put on a play those are the decisions this guy was it the student life office that put together because sometimes the student life office we'll get like a graduate assistant oversee them they just run things through and people don't know getting all the details from the performer and they offer a personal apology if they offended anyone in that so I like said perform so when ziggy lit up the blood on stage cut it was like ooh seriously ziggy Marley it knows what is getting and then finds out not getting what it's getting say they say they should have did a better job of vetting the situation a young battery you've got a young pitcher got a young catcher so they're going to be driving the ship today that's the easy part those are the two right down you submit your line of and allow him to catch him even though you giving up some at the plate in terms of the batting side sent okay with that decision I think when you look at it it set up from a pitching standpoint for since opening for somebody else he is the headliner so they went on to also say that they take full responsibility not thoroughly vetting the situation audience enjoyed that no audience enjoyed ideo the fans enjoyed a top recruit that the you know germs spread is found to be made at dodger stadium decisions are already made the decision was made to Pitch Walker Bueller game one with the understanding that if we got to game five he would pitch game five with understanding if it got to game five you'd also have Clayton Kershaw available to come out of the bullpen we know that will smith is going to catch for the dodgers today instead of Russell Martin so very do certain things you look at Smith behind the plate who's going to be calling the game four Buehler that's something that you say okay we paired them together they both it's going to be what gets tricky for Dave Roberts is everything that's going to happen after five thirty seven tonight which by the way can hear the game here on Espn La that's the where you can go bueller six Kershaw to Kinley one and be done if you get up you somehow chase Strasbourg early Martinez is going to have to make the same decisions yes it is different how so Martinez works that's one that's one difference is going to determine whether or not he still here and in those decisions so far it's as far as I've seen the way he's put things together he's made some pretty cool decisions I mean on a clean cool comfortable position either decisions he makes could decide whether or not he's the manager next season okay zengin truly dental D G Get mad mad say I went to a Guy Sir that was at a Christian University and they had invited Ziggy Marley the three of us and everyone else is going to be talking about on Monday morning did you go to Kenley too early did you go too late did you leave him into long Dave Roberts has a whole bunch of decisions to make and Nineteen thirty-one star they were looking in the dugout they're not gonNA do anything other than fire the manager so he's pulled out of a nosedive in very very effect or get him tied up early now Washington may stick with their guy longer even though he looked all the conversations were having about the decisions that Dave Roberts needs to make David clued moving the artists to the final act we move on to the final act so you know what she was gonna get he was going to blow the roof off the top and snoop always a final act he's not ever going to be open so also is a bear oh right bien talking to Keith the third straight year in which he couldn't get it done Dave Roberts is not clay Helton hot seat no but he's not exactly you know coming in they they know what they're doing we're comfortable although Smith is not strong at the plate right now but you know you you've gotta give and take you want your pitcher to be strong so you demint tunnel asked him what he thought he was like men it was fire now he's thinking about going to Kansas because of that so that was key headline in the morning you're listening to K s lose game five when you're the underdog because you know what you are supposed to be supposed to be there for keep in mind keep in mind they were gonNA fire Dave Martinez early this season going on we're not looking at a trend of where he's making a bunch of wack decisions that don't make sense you're just getting beat so now you moving in my what you're GonNa do go hire somebody else's civilly but you could make the argument look we have sugar in Strasbourg and we still didn't get it done there's there's an argument to be made over that I don't know if it's an argument starting welcome Bueller and game one was a smart decision because you got him in five but you also get Kershaw if you need him and I think that was all calculated on wanting to uh-huh so we're basically back to at that point though Elsie and I'm not disagreeing necessarily I'm open to the idea of moving him out but we're just doing it to do it we're doing it for change's sake because with that in mind final score three to the dodgers lose their out nothing catastrophic no decision was made that you look and go what the hell was that you're like a chase utley type new young guy who maybe isn't quite as agreeable off to diamond the other day who can't find a damn hit for the next three seasons we're history to Kershaw who's not trending up training career to our vision was made where everybody get out just they just lose a guy named Stephen Strasburg fourteen guys and they never really threatened to get him out because you know why we're here's compelling as you have a twelve billion dollar roster you've we've given you everything that you want it you have all the time in the world you'd want one hundred six games ooh and it's the easiest way to make a you don't have to trade the contract is smallest out of all of it because the other changes are trickier we're we're we're hitched to AJ three run lead that means there's stuff happening up until that point for you blow it so so then you yank him early there you go there you go the three to nothing he comes throwing Leonard Ten pitches he's just worked and worked he's done right and it's the top of the sixth inning and old twenty two comes out of that bullpen and just blows it you gotTa have different names you know the expectations are different you don't get to win one hundred six games and lose game five home and then everything's cool you get to go on the road up though what Dave is not date isn't safe because if you is in and now it's three to one you gotTa base do you go get Clayton Kershaw after he got an outdoor too because net because here's the here's what you're asking yourself am I gonNa let Clayton Kershaw ending in the wrong direction we've gone gained seven world series five games world series bouncing I but he's not the but he's not the ones swinging a bat against matter three Cy youngs eight all star Games. Mvp Go look at his baseball reference page it's nothing but Boldin numbers he's the best in the business am I pulling him out to put Pedro Byas what if the dodgers walker bill pitched five innings there three to nothing okay say it and and all of a sudden let's say let's say three to nothing he so south that he can't get anything going if he can't get anything going then at that point okay I understand moving but what did you think he was going to do the job as the fire is bad religion you can do it in that religion Travis it's okay a lot of decisions adjustment to not Ozzie Osborne Sharon Osborne turns sixty seven years old all of a sudden he comes in and Buehler's done and he gives up it you know he gives up a home run and then all of a sudden a couple of guys get on base in the no no I get it but he just got off the diarrhea all the time all the reason that we don't like days but sometimes you need a different singer to sing that song in now all of a sudden it's three one minimum base and Kershaw let's tie up to three but if you take him out and you bring in Jose by whoever else in the bullpen unless you think there's a match of going on with whoever's in the pin versus that batter with for one two times where you could bring them in and say he he's pitched Wilson the game my pulling him out to put yours in the game or Majeida or taking kershaw out for no no because even if he gives it up that's the decision if he brings it to good in now all of a sudden you down six three I'd rather take my chances with Kershaw light and give it back rather I rather take my chances kershaw six to three because you brought in Jose Baez whoever else it's three to nothing Clayton kershaw comes into the game it's the sixth inning he walks the first guy the next guy doubles what are you doing keep any many get under badly able I gotta let him get out of because now the next guy comes in there's no out what's WHO's to say unless right so you mentioned it in one ear headlines yesterday the letter from a Penn state volleyball wrestling and basketball and football fan to a player Osborne was quasi athletic put it this way he lasted longer than me don't mean he beat me Oh that's exactly what he was on longer yeah I know and love brings people together and embraces differences black white brown Catholic Jewish or Muslim richer getting me out of the inning then bring somebody else in the inning extent I don't believe that anyone will fault you for taking out Kershaw I don't four rural or urban republican or Democrat long hair short hair no hair they're all in that locker room together teams all over the country are the purest form of humanity that we have we don't judge we embrace differences we live we go away we'll see thought Baluchi angled shot Baluchi okay against him I want him to pitch him I want him to pitch you now you run into your bullpen if you fail the eyeball test you need to make yeah yeah well let's figure out how to make the learn we grow we support and defend each other were family Penn State Football Penn State University and Happy Valley provide or beach alter seventy-three towards the visit Land Rover Newport Beach Dot Com Land Rover above and beyond so see I locked I lost Jack Osbourne and dance with the stars so you know I is planet one hundred ten thousand fans from all different backgrounds throughout our region from all different parts of the state and they're hugging same opportunities to embrace one another twelve Saturdays each fall psu football brings people together like very few things on players that I love and will defend like sons ultimately this is the definition and embodiment of what we are and and high fiving and singing sweet caroline together this is my football this is the game that I love and most importantly my ah well said it was basically racist the head coach of the Penn State Football Program James Franklin he responded to that letter the football that he's a captain he's a Dean's list honor student he's confident he's articulate he's intelligent he's thoughtful he's caring are on the Penn State football team a young man by the name of Jonathan Sutherland who has locks and the letter was basically racist Yes yes if you're cutting he's committed it's got two of the most supportive parents I would be so blessed if my daughters would marry someone with his character integrity one that's a pretty yeah all right Kishan his face remember I know he was on it though he lasted longer than me you got beat by check you're is all about lastly Jonathan Sutherland is one of the most respected players in our program he's the ultimate example of what our program is all about those are as travis mentioned who's not trending up he's not turning out Kershaw's cool man the Kershaw loan her Shaw Stop Right there what about he three I'm okay steal your grasp or at least you had you and you a defence of one of your players and what your football program stands for and I would imagine the person that wrote the letter to Jonathan Sutherland didn't hear award of it no you didn't hear a word colleagues I bet you get to the middle of play for them nobody I know what the Hell Melody Yeah we already know the beginning but this is sandy that is intended all I would just like to see the coaches get the guys cleaned up and not looking like Florida state in Miami guy it doesn't come out and say I hate you but if prince presents these examples and here's here's something that just pinpoints his intent he says he was not that is people in his friends and his family have certainly showed him and told him it it it it look at the end of the day he's an idiot number one freeman send them the letter here at please coach he said he didn't mean for it to be racially insensitive but here's the coded language this this is the beautiful hand of racism because Kazeem Lillard pitch you can live pitch no I'm letting pitches way out of 'em letting finished inning and pitches way out of unless it just goes and I hope that more guys on the team put dreads locks in their hair do it just Make sure they put some moisturizer in and hair boy what about my hair stakes UC UC teach me Orleans. That's right the Sonny and Cher bellio ooh happy birthday Sharon Osborne sixty seven years old birthday brought to you by Jaguar Land Rover one run lead or leading if leading the water bleeding so as a man second I'm woman up some odd has dr which is the wife Yes okay so we didn't have anything fire so we're GONNA play I mean you do a clip from there's no there's no great shares This they play this right before kickoffs in Tampa Bay and now suited hyped it will go because you do they was going down into knock some heads off it gives up a three zero lead you gotta go I don't think anyone would want to say what if that three run lead us now do it where the guy who wrote the letter O cl's Ego knows Eagle finding you know because he's bonded responded and he only I'm willing to try and get yourself out the in on it 'cause you're very specific scenarios not if not you bring in somebody else now all of a sudden that three Oh lady gave up now hugs route now what Ki- showing this guy looks like he's all right well most of them are black okay okay in in it dribbed okay they have grease grills or not I'm just subduing not you I turn to you to grills riven by keys automotive group that's visit keys cars dot com they're pulling down banners they're taking games off TV the Chinese are not looking for a compromise or a middle ground on this they want what they want and the NBA has a decision to make I think trying to not live with the consequences of Darryl Morris comments and rather trying to pretend it never happened and then after the backlash on this side trying to have it both ways the owners of these teams have other businesses and some of these businesses we look at the portfolio involves dealings with China and so a few look at it just my Mba perspective Adam silver very well may be willing to put his money where his mouth is the Adam silver might be willing to say you know what the NBA we don't need your billion mark Cuban may feel differently because it's not just about the mavericks for him as and China is not having they pulled the plug on an NBA cares event with the Lakers today which was supposed to benefit the Special Olympics they said Nope so if we have to live with the consequences and then he goes into you know our long relationship with Chinese NBA fans and or work in China is he will linked to live with the consequences because listening to that listening to Steve Kerr listening to James Harden go over we love China we love China all of this seems like they were aggressively they want Jack Ham Jack Lambert Todd blackledge perfect right there want penn state to look like Penn State WanNa mess with anybody connected to the NBA which way forced owners to decide may need to sell my team so I can go back and make my money here or title he doesn't like that it's such a stupid defense that hey I'm not talking about you know guys with dreadlocks it's not racist I just don't want us to look like Miami and Florida's but the issue is bigger than that in this sense and I said this on CNN International Google's I saw it 'cause you text identity got a blind spot and I don't know if backlash on twitter is going to correct the blind spot but we see it all the time where it well meaning person who does a realize that their race in China as well as the Commissioner has got to happen forty NBA to try to salvage whatever they can in this situation they give up is the bottom line and oh by the way if if you're going to keep him like one thousand a lot of y'all and I'm talking to listeners you're tweeting your disapproval on look in the seventies and eighties they will stay looked like the uniforms right penn state players quote unquote looked a lot different than the rest he has other businesses as well depending on that money and may be afraid that the backlash is going to spill beyond just that that the Chinese government looking go you know what we don't this because they're not thinking of the N. Word in their head but they have these sort of thoughts where they look at you and they characterize you as that but they don't say your hair you don't touch me uh-huh Lebron is a thoughtful Guy Lebron is an somebody that's comfortable speaking out on issues that he's passionate about in the I mean look we heard Steve Kerr Maury Maury for the better good of the NBA even though you're going to get some backlash and all sorts of things because all you care about is the money and going to sacrifice the money I'm making over here from this because I want to keep my team you're asking a lot of capitalist to sacrifice a lot of money which they typically are not very anxious to do up to the cavs on their fingers and everywhere else that's where the Florida state guy looks like Miami Guy Looks right we don't want our guys look like that so there's Adam silver talking about the situation that has arisen in the last four or five days Jaramogi's tweet course started the whole thing I thought it was interesting we said ways and try to placate

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REShow: Jeff Darlington. Hour 1 (03-19-20)

The Rich Eisen Show

43:13 min | 5 months ago

REShow: Jeff Darlington. Hour 1 (03-19-20)

"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production now available on spotify apple podcasts. Podcast one dot com in anywhere else. You get your podcasts. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work. Know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO? Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go TO GEICO DOT COM. Get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico DOT COM. Today that's Geiko Dot Com G. I. CO DOT COM. Okay everybody welcome this dish now. The Rich Eisen Show. Where live on this loyal rich? Eisen show radio affiliates and also YouTube dot com slash richeisenshow. It's how you can watch us every single day between twelve and three stern that we are here in our Los Angeles Studio and we welcome you to this program. Good to see you over there. Christopher happening And Happy Birthday Mike. Del tufo Yes sir. Mike Celebrating Four Annual Fiftieth Birthday. Today it actually is the Fourth Annual Fiftieth Birthday fifty four. What's what's the situation supposed hygroscopic. Rich Rich Rich. I'm sorry I'm it's okay. You've been locked up locked up on a condo in really locked up so it's like I've been watching movies left and right which has been what you've been watching like. I'm going crazy like I got shawshank which I've never watched waiting. I've started never seen Shawshank redemption. I got a lot of movies on deck. What no I never Chris. We've been I know I it's a worm of we talked about it ever. I got. Movies ravages three weeks. I know and it's like I feel bad because I can't relate. I got him as I'm doing all the wormhole movies. I okay now which I loved. I'd never ever seen who only through I never watched. I'm talking about fully through bits and pieces occasionally of the never liked backing so we gotta get you goonies for rich now. We're not now we're talking to say welcome to this show We are our first full day in the new league year in the NFL. And everybody from what? I'm hearing Tom Brady's GONNA sign today. He's going to get that physical and New York City apparently he and a box of greed. That there's a doctor in New York City that it's cool with the box. Cool Tom the that. That the physical the Tom's GonNa get is fine for the For the bucks to go ahead. And Have Tom put his. Tb twelve on a contract with TB and make this thing official. Wow apparently that's happening today. Still can't but we'll see hold on. Here's what I should do. I should say This Plans to expect back. Did I need to infuse this language? Jeff Darlington he's been all over the Tom Brady Story Since jump is going to be our first guest in about Sixteen minutes time right here to have the conversation and Pat. Mcafee will be here and I'll say this normally I send out a text to friends and Who are on the show and say hey just a friendly reminder. I'm calling you and I'm like an calling it. One twenty eastern time. He wrote back boss man. Aj Hawkins will both be on the phone. We talk to each other. Is that right right? Sweet I mean as long as we can hear them and understand them both absolutely. It looks like we're it. Looks like we got two for the price of one coming up so long story. Short is Mcafee is going to be joining us with Jay Hawk and And I will confirm that with pat in our first commercial break and then Willie mcginest and our three our a walk off the NFL network said yesterday after another three hours of free agency frenzy. And I walk into honestly. I've been in there now three straight days. Yeah I may you know you're you're not supposed to be in a room with more than ten people I may have interacted with fewer than ten humans. I mean they had it all up. I walked into. They have it all worked out the entrance. No no yeah actually. It's really odd. I've been walking in the same entrance for sixteen years and they stopped me and he told me to go. Two blocks around was Kevin. Don't don't Spike Lee. Here man died street. Now Chris That was a good one. No I went into the same entrance and then I get ready. Go into It's the room that was built for Dion Sanders to do his twenty first in prime show or The game prime show that he's he. You know if you ball you get a call from him and it's just me in the room and they shut the door and I walked in the room and it was as if I was taking a headfirst dive into a bottle of bleach. I mean it just the whole thing had been totally disinfected makes I leave and I see in the in the Green Room When him against unlike hey willy you free tomorrow yes done so the. Look Willie was the first guy along with I. Guess bledsoe right. It was him and bledsoe defense and offense that started the whole thing off in New England that led to eventually check coming that led to Brady in twenty years. That has now. I mean this is it. This is now over a whole brave new world in New England and William Lee joining us an hour number. Three's keeping our eye on everything Two items in the NFL world of note here one. It looks like Todd. Gurley might be on to move here now. Mike Silver mentioned this on. Nfl Network on Monday. That Gurley was on the trading block and I would love to know which team that would be. You know which team would be if I if I if I if I was todd. Gurley and if I was this team the box I would say the Tampa Bay bucks would be and if on the box and I have this to three year window at Tom. Brady and I've got Ronald Jones also to make sure that girl he doesn't have to be the bell cow and I got Ronald Jones and Got Todd. Gurley and I've got Tom Brady. And I've got Mike Evans and got Chris Godwin my God. I'm going to work right. So if girly can't be the bell cow and can't go all sixteen games can't go more than I guess. Twelve Games if that's it. Ronald Jones was becoming quite the back to. That's a hell of a one two punch. Ronald Jones had a thousand yards. Total offense and six touchdowns last. Oj Howard is the is the guy there to just draft some offensive line. Help Gore. Yeah you can get a great offensive lineman right in the middle of the draft fourteen. He's got to take on. Todd's big huge cronk contract and and but but you've got your window right now. He got Tom Brady till doesn't play anymore. And Bruce Arians you got this whole setup when you do that if you're Tampa one one thousand percent also. Todd Gurley two years younger than Ronald Jones. We think about grow is having all these issues injury. Wisey does still younger than who they have now. Oh my word now. I'm just throwing that I'm really. I'm just throwing that out there. I don't know if Tampa's even in the market or wants to do or has the ability to do it or not. Adam schefters twitter this morning. Then that is what Adam Schefter said. They're going to do it as Kellyanne. Oh schefter Brockman just reading Avenue Brockman reading Kellyanne. Oh God bless. Him is destroying the video. The Guy was Who put his bare butt up against a hundred and he called it a summer all madden. That literally made me laugh out loud. Adam Schefter tweeting out this morning since word surfaced at Brady is expected to land in Tampa. Yes an unexpected high number of players have reached out to the buccaneers to let them know they want join. Please take me. The New England quarterback Brahma Valley's take me. Please take me I mean yeah. Yeah Pied Piper Super Team. You started the super team Bro. Right through Dream Team Dom boy. My coordinating producer saying They after the Brady deal. They got thirty million capital Kota work. Jason Pass Melvin Gordon out there too. Yep Now they do need to protect Brady but what better? Way To protect and with the run game right man. Who's better than the quick short passes in the slot? Then Tom Brady. Eight four four zero four rich number dial you WANNA call Darius Slay. It's traded and the eagles swoop and manage to three and five and you know in coughing up What seventeen million per for one of the top corners in the League? Who's got a really good track. Record Against Mario Cooper particularly good against Amari Cooper Great. Move Twenty nine years old and you know. I really amazing really amazing and Detroit. Lions fans probably wondering what the Hell's going on over there but sleigh gets the exit visas he's been wanting Ever since Middle of last year and the eagles getting terrific player terrific player just to three and a five. That's all man three straight pro bowls led the NFL with eight interceptions and twenty six passes defense than twenty seventeen. That's some big news and here's the other one too. Did you hear who the Miami Dolphins according to? My compadres the NFL Media Group. The Miami Dolphins apparently reached out to before the corona virus shut down Visits in House. But you cannot have any visits in house because of the corona virus of draft. I did see this. Did you see this report that according to Ian rapoport before it was all shut down the first phone? Call the dolphins make but first phone call. Dolphins made to get a player in two. Now boy you could knock me over with a feather you could knock me over with the proverbial feather I thought that they were like you know. Let's go in the direction of Justin her. Everybody Yeah I'm GonNa take that that's odd dumb. That's really strange to the guy who they who had them at. Hello when he looked off the safety to beat the Georgia bulldogs in the National Championship. Game and he came into the middle of the game. It's just a couple of years ago telling you now. The Lions Trading Sleigh. Put these pieces together. Clearly it would be good for them to draft. Jeff Okuda atop the draft number three overall but I would prefer to say they could get Mr Okuda at fifth overall where the dolphins currently reside and the bengals going to take borough. The redskins can sit there and say you know. Let's kick the tires on on to a little bit. See what's what GonNa take show. Just take a look everybody at the free agency frenzy if you are a human being large enough fast enough and talented enough to stop a run or Russia passer from four point stance if you are. Somebody plays defensive line and are good at it. You are making serious cash and cloudy still out there. He either must be asking for way too much. Just biding his time to see. Who's left I dunno or Seattle's just biding their time. I don't know so this way. It's going people. Everybody just wants four five six guys who can go hunt. They're fast. They're young. They can be interchangeable. You can move them along. The line you can interchange them sideline to game and keep them all fresh chase young going to and then at three. There's two lines won't go in that direction. But who does want him? We all know who wants. Is Anyone GonNa jump Miami though? That's the quite well. That's the whole thing. And that's why lines are going to sit back. Lines or any great spot over the next five weeks draft is GONNA go down as as as scripted twenty thirty twenty fifth and unless some something seriously seriously seriously as we hope not clearly goes wrong in this country with our battle against corona virus or the novel Corona Virus Cove in Nineteen. So because you where to look good. He's not going into way. Hit No ten here in Los Angeles now. I know the chargers are going to really be trying to go all in too. That's the lines are sitting back. Who WANTS TO CAUSE? The chargers are sitting there. Saying we're not taken cam. We're not taking Janus we tried for Brady. That was the only way that we would get off our plan of staying with tyrod Taylor and then drafting young kid sixth overall to look great here. Two lines are in a great spot just playing against each other and sit back and pull the trigger. Get a ton of draft picks and stay at five or six and maybe get a coup to anyway. 'cause there's GonNa be a is as simmons giants are going to go for somebody to protect annual Jones at fourth overall Italian fun draft deep draft but hearing the dolphins reaching out to Baby what a shocker again knocked me over with a feather phone calls at eight four four two zero four rich happy to take them all show. Pat McAfee is gonNA join us with. Aj Hawk. I guess they'll be speaker phone us. We'll see how it works Willie mcginest. We'll be joining us at in the middle of our third our Jeff Darlington's Kinda come up next. What of Brady's decision making How how he did come about all that. What is going on at the top of the draft Todd Gurley and so much more happening in the new league year in the NFL. Also you've got Brockman. You WanNa talk about this so soon. As Center March madness bracket do that bears sports media to seed in the in the Bouillon vision. We have the boot region I have a correction to make here about this game now. They spelled about the. I've got a correction to make this. I have some thoughts on this subject. Filling up my timeline. It's pretty awesome. Willie mcginest Pat McAfee. Jeff Darlington you at eight. Four four zero four rich number to dial. That's how it rolling here on this Thursday edition of the rich. Eisen show on this loyal rich. Eisen show radio affiliates as well as YouTube dot com slash. Rich Eisen show on the next episode of expeditiously. Please everybody welcome miss. The title appear was was going home. Bro You're meteoric rise. Man To success has not come with at some level the criticism. You be polite. 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I was accurate. Not like yeah I was right but in a situation where you can say yeah. I was kind of want to spike the football. Jeff Darlington did exactly that when Tom Brady decided to leave the Patriots to go to the buccaneers Jeff Charleston's ESPN joins us in our Honda insider. Report how Jeff. I'm fine you know what I mean. You're not in this business to be right. You're in this business to be accurate. I've never actually heard that before. They kinda like it's true. It's true though. Credibility is very important. Yes it is sure yes it is and I don't know what's more disturbing is the amount of grief that you took for reporting what you you had or the fact that most people didn't understand your animal house reference when you said the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor on your twitter account. I know it's more disturbing quite honestly. That sounds like the perfect way to end that whole sequences to to to mention that the Germans are bombed Pearl Harbor and just extol the people who are very very adamant about their opinion. So let's pull on that Strand. Let's pull on that strand that that Of reporting that that you had How far back does the notion that your reporting about Brady You'd be shocked if he was returning to New England. How far back does that go? 'cause we're hearing you is so upset about everything in the last training camp and so on and so forth how. How far back does that does that? Go well you know. I think that comes in stages and one of the kind of elements to to what was tricky about reporting Throughout this scenario was the fact that like things do change right like if in. Let's say after the loss to the titans. Yes it felt at that moment like Tom was resigned. To the fact that you believing that that was the end but you still in so many situations like that. I mean you technically. As soon as the saints lost. You could have reported at that point. That drew brees was was really edging toward retirement and you actually would have been accurate but ultimately proven to be wrong to kind of use your phrasing before and in this sequence. I think that when I finally said that I would be stunned returned to New England. I was supremely confident. I knew that he wasn't going to New England and it got to the point where not only was. He resigned to leaving comfortable with the notion of leaving but he also understood that he knew that they were going to be a market. Even though you couldn't get into really talking he understood that the options we're going to exist and that ultimately he would have been comfortable with at least one of those options. In at that point it was pretty clear that he was gone. Okay and in the narrative that we've heard about the reason why he was not returning to New England or was adamant about overs resolved. Let's put it that way Would it would. It would have been. Let's just use another example in the NFL event of a goat quarterback with a goat statistics. And a first ballot hall of Famer. That's coming albeit. He's five super bowl championships. Shy of Tommy Tying Tom Brady. You've got drew brees in New Orleans. Which one would have been made Brady less at Adamant the relationship. That breeze clearly has with Peyton that he did not have brady with Bela. Check or the weaponry. That breeze clearly has around him in New Orleans that Brady did not have in New England. Which one do you think played a bigger part for Tom? Very good question. I would say both and I would say from the aspect that Phil Bella. Checks is a little different than Sean Payton. And the fact that he is both the head coach and general manager in in those you know maybe not by title but the tower so when you at both of those things together when they're this dynamic that exists well maybe the friction with spellcheck has deteriorated deteriorated to resignation. Like it was what was once a marriage that might have had some arguments had turned into a marriage that we simply together for comfort. Just let each other to do their thing coupled with the fact that it was very clear that that coach who has the power to pick the players was not really interested in loading up. Wasn't really looking to say you know what time you got a couple more years. Let's get one more together. That just wasn't got wasn't the way it was ever presented to Tom. And as a result I would argue that That that Brady felt more comfortable than ever with those things considered leaving Jeff Darlington here from ESPN on the rich. Eisen show in our Honda insider report. So let's answer. The question that I think is burning in the minds of so many Patriot fans why Tampa off. I think if Brady somehow engineered away to San Francisco Patriots. Fans would understand it if you will. If it was Los Angeles they would understand it. 'cause it's L. A. and a new spot and the new stadium and it's La and and the chargers could use somebody like Brady in that regard The Tampa of it all. I think his patriot fans difficult to swallow. Why Tampa? Yeah and I think that that's that's An important point from the standpoint that like it was really not going to be the Patriots at the point. When I was saying that I would be son so so as Patriots. Fans and a lot of the reporting that started to generate out there was. It's either the forty niners of the Patriots. It's either the titans are the Patriots either the thirteen charges or the Patriots or the Patriots and So so that's the first important ingredient for patriots understand pitcher sandstone understand but beyond that The four things that when he knew he wasn't going back to the Patriots. Tom Brady was covering his. I understand them to be was kind of said this a little bit. So I'm sorry if I'm just repeating myself number. One was going to be a coach. Who was looking to collaborate to a roster that didn't have to be on the cost of the Super Bowl but one that was very well built third was actually surprisingly warm weather for a dome if not perfect weather and and force was going to be Proximity to New York City and to which a lot of pitcher insane said to me when I say the New York City boss closer but but that wasn't one of the teams that he was coveting so when you compare the chargers to the bucks You understand why that east coast accents. So why the bucks I mean when you look at the things that he covets. Even though maybe the sticker on the side of the helmet doesn't come with the historical significance of of forty niners or Or the friendship that he has with variable with the titans. It's still had all the things Tom Brady ultimately wanted. Is it true about this dinner with the Brady and Bill Gates and Derek jeter and the owner of the Tampa Bay Lightning Jeff Vinik Was now that didn't happen as far as I understand it. Tom Brady was flying from Costa Rica to New York at that point. Thanks to throw that out there. What about the What about the Jeff Darlington Honda insider report here on the rich Eisen show. What about Adding in Tampa is in the fact that Girlie is on the market is there. Is there a market for girly in Tampa or because we're hearing about the if you will gold rush that? The buccaneers are feeling right. Now people calling him up saying. Please pick me for your championship. Run with Tom. I think. Early certainly I think the rams are certainly interested in in filling out that market for early and also the bucks certainly in the market for running back right now nothing is imminent when it comes to that potential trade and one thing. I would point to that that could be tricky for any trade with girly at this point is the NFL regulations right now when it comes to the inability to really perform a physical with your team doctors and given all this kind of gone some of the mystery surrounding girly It's going to be very difficult for a team to commit to that person at this point without physical not saying eventually happen but for now. I don't think so but you're right about the bucks feels like the two areas that that they will be seeking employment from some somebody would be running back and kind of bolstering that offense line. Tom Brady and to your point. The urgency immediately shifts towards. We're not trying to make the playoffs anymore. We're trying to win the same because Todd Bowles really had one of the best. Run Defenses in the game last year. Obviously getting some sort of pass defense and helping out with that pass rush. You Know Pierre Paul and and Shaq Barrett being being Retained you know NASA going. That might be another thing for the hit but I'm just trying to see that. Running back market with girly again Brady and the bucks came to. Some sort of agreement is to a more geographically. Sound doctor for Brady to see And get this. They're signed right. That's what happened right as I understand it He's able to take that physical today in New York again. It's interesting time. Y You know. It's it's nothing very out of the ordinary food because at the time much that's going on people trying to get these situations but From the standpoint that everybody within the box and Brady are all on the team pitcher just a matter of really navigating these kinds of regulations. But I I think we're getting very close abuse and then what about. Melvin Gordon Obviously everybody needs physicals but he. What's his market looking? Like best you can tell as we're talking. I feel like when it comes to to featured docs right now. Just as divisive and getting around the League is that there's really not a ton of teacher back openings So so I think he's GonNa depend a lot on what Goldens Gordon Gordons market is and how much money Whether he wants to go to a team like Tampa perhaps potentially take a little less to play on that that Lebron style team where they start to load up guys or if he wants to go somewhere else and potentially be a back by committee situation right or Kinda hold out and really see maybe one of those features those few feature jobs pull the trigger on a few more minutes left with the ESPN NFL insider. Jeff Darlington here on the Honda insider report on the rich Eisen. Show Let's Let's hit on the dolphins a little bit here Kyle Van Noy Byron Jones. They've made some interesting maneuvers. They've had that they had the most cap space coming in. And now report from your former colleague in my current Ian rapoport saying that the dolphins first guy that they reached out to for in in in in-house visit Clearly is not going to happen because of the new regulations involving the fight against covert nineteen to about them apples. You could not be over the federal on that one right. Jeff Oh yeah I see. I definitely a fascinating and intriguing stock for the the most interesting part about the idea of two at Miami. Is that like? It's so funny because a year ago it was like. Oh thanks to you. We're going to have to have the number one pick. The dolphins seem very much on track to have out and all of a sudden. The question becomes okay. The dolphins didn't exactly succeed in their tanking into action. Unforeseen circumstances marriage still take place. I still think it's GONNA require getting to three and I look. I don't know this but it feels to me like if you've got the chargers at sitting at six and they're a team in Anthony Lynn. The now didn't get Tom Brady and seemingly even before the Brady stuff was going on. Coveted a quarterback to escape ability If I'm the dolphins I'm a little nervous about the chargers trying to make that move to number three or even number two even though it feels like I still feel like the pressure. Point is going to be that third tickets right exactly. But at least you've got the draft capital you didn't. You didn't tank hard enough to even Ryan Fitzpatrick the anti tanker I mean he's the ultimate anti tanker right and and it was exciting and they still. They still had enough losses for the lack of a better phrase to be sitting there at five but they still have enough. There's no way. The chargers could compete with career and company for the most attractive package. That the lions can can receive and also. Miami's one step closer so if they want a Kudos to fill the hole that clearly the acquisition of Darius late from From them to Philadelphia today. That's the one that kind of makes sense. The question is though is weird is Washington play in all of this because they could trump the lions right now and say look We've got a lot of holes to fill to We'll drop down to five will forfeit our ability to get chase young but we could get a whole bunch of draft choices and some other talented kids in this deep draft. Where what do you think? Washington's mindset is right now Jeff. I mean if you if you look at that like normally I would say look. If he's got convictions. Junk you go get him but at this stage if two medicals continue to come back clean out they had so far. And you've got the most valuable position In the draft with the player of the greatest value and a quarterback that people know tortoise overpay for you listen to offers and you know if the dolphins and the chargers are two teams trying to leverage against you know trying to get up there and then throw in maybe another team somewhere in there all of a sudden. Not only do you have. Are you in a position that's coveted but you've got the potential to just take a team to the bath and I think that that's that's where they've got a you know. I I respect when Ron Rivera and says we're looking at your overlooking. You know doing all of our homework. I mean like you can talk about chase young and you can talk about two third option and not work for the redskins which is to get a hold of picks. I mean I think you cannot disregard that if you're Washington I know right I hear you. I mean I think we were right now. Jeff having the conversations going to be hot over the next five weeks I mean in. This thing's only gonNA hang up anymore. So let's let's just raise the roof then and say what about the Bengals Is it possible that they don't take borough they take two instead like at? What point do we hear that part of the conversation? If at all right. I'm sure we'll have it. The only thing I'd say is just talking to people and I I mean this is how long it goes meetings go with the columbine like fifteen minutes or something Talking to people somebody who is in? They're not meeting Just sounded so impressed by him and shuts it. The Room was so impressed by borough Lying that he gave he was. He was like a fifteen year veteran their use exceptional. So it's certainly felt like it was trending as if there was a chemistry that existed between borough and the bengals that maybe we didn't expect early on just because of the the bengals history. It feels like it's trending toward borough to the bengals but like hey man crazy crazy things have happened and I will. I will certainly Treasure the moment when you are sitting behind desks comes in if it is something other than joker. I'll buy now that would be. That'd be quite the stunner all right before before I let you go jeff so the next domino to drop would be would be. Who IS THERE? Is there a big is? Is it the girly trade? Is there anything else out there that we should keep an eye on on now that the new league year is fully up and running? Jeff Darling I would. I would say the girl trade if not for these regulations so really the the tricky thing. Here is a lot of the quarterback domino's with fallen right Jalen I mean you got Jamison Cam Right Chicago to if you're so Chicago brings in foles and if you're a team though like you would that camp gotta be the next big shoe right but if you're a team and you got some pretty polarizing forces in Cam Newton and Jameis Winston and you can't even bring those guys to get to know them or are you willing to to to make that move yet and I there's one person one player in the NFL NFL regulations who probably Sam It's gotTa be the early or Janus for reason cam to the cameras. Well Right Cam. It's not like if you bring him in and it's not as your starter. You're clear starter. Like he's got a little bit of that. Tito element where you're going to disrupt some things in your locker room. If you bring in there and create that competition some people cherish that competition and some people coveted. Some people want nothing to do with it. So that's GonNa be very interesting to see how he's navigate Cam Newton Winston. Yeah 'cause Cam also you gotta look at his shoulder. You've gotta look at his foot to a great point. I mean you got to look at those aspects as well so tepper. The owner of the panthers is willing to go on record and say we don't know if he's our quarterback right you don't know if he's healthy. What's he gonNA jump at that? You know that's the scary. The the panthers did not to can't do any favors on his way out the door on. And then there's the last one for you. I mean what does falls presence really mean in Chicago? That means that they've admitted that there is an issue with trubisky. Correct flat out at a hundred percent which you know thank God. They admitted it. Because it's obvious. Is there to immediately supplant fifty or there's going to be one of those legitimate head to head competitions All I know is when you've got Nick Foles as your backup quarterback to starter It seems like teams end up tearing pretty well in that scenario so right. I know it's funny. You're Brockman laughing. You're right I mean because you we'll find out which type route trubisky is wants. The wants the competition or doesn't or you know can handle it. We'll find out which one he is out. You know we know what happens when fold. That's putting out situation so he doesn't let go. Thanks for the call. Jeff Hope you in your Your your young kids and your wife are all well and happy and healthy and stay that way. Okay brother. We're staying healthy happy different stories. This is confined quarters. In the Darlington. Most is bad and I appreciate Your family Sparing you a call and be the Honda insider for the segment. Thanks for the call center. You the bag the man. 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And it's brought to you by our friends in capital one which is reimagined banking by offering savings and checking accounts or no fees or minimum and one of the nation's best savings rates capital one. What's in your Wallet Approval? Required capital one. Na member FDIC. I see we have it over there. Christopher would available player available quarterback will put available on quotes available quarterback. Would you want to be your team starting? Qb If it needed one okay. So we got Winston New in Winston Cam Joe flacco Andy Dalton okay. Average hasn't show on twitter here is A best fit that Mariucci came up with. This is a great conversation. I re tweeted it out. It was me Mooch and Joe Thomas yesterday in the middle of which Joe Thomas. Who has this? I guess for his podcast in his house as this huge microphone. That makes look small huge. Put a sign on it yesterday. Mike you know whatever Mike. Don't care at one point during the conversation you know. They took the three shot. Joe Thought he was off. Camera is taking a sip of water. From what looked like the container for the microphone. Or something you would put flowers in like it's a monster you know vase or vase and look by the way. Look at the photograph. We have up on OUR YOUTUBE DOT COM slash richeisenshow. Mooch like scrunching. His face. And I'm stunned. I'm like totally stunned by. This is a great moment at any rate Mikey merge came up with a good spot for Cam Washington Hook up with the guy who was coach of the year two times with Cam Hook up with a guy that knows cam inside and out and can potentially if Dwayne Haskins. Isn't the guy yet. Tell Dwayne what's up how you doing. Give them a one year deal. Phillip see how his foot is holding up interesting and go to work. I have not heard that I hadn't heard of that. Okay so that means you choose chase young bring Cam in right and go to work. And either he beats out Haskins because he's Cam and healthy enough or he's not healthy enough and Haskins this guy and if proves he's still not ready yet then cam sitting there and you can maybe win the division with Cam Newton. Have you heard that anywhere else? I've not like Mooch about that. I've Knob just thinking about what they have for weapons. Terry McLaren had a great year while aging Peterson and rookie. Dairy guys grow. Adrian Peterson disguises healthy. You know let's see how you can go to work eight four four two awful rich number. Dial let's take connor and Denver's phone call. You're here on the rich Eisen show. What's up? Connor rich has always wanted to call in. And say what's up to you guys. Happy Birthday del Tufo. Thank you thank you. Yeah I was just going to pick your brain on what we're thinking in. The next couple of months is going to happen with this bucks off their ribbon. Nfl overall fan but just to kind of analyze and see the landscape of thanks and really with the caps situation is about to take on his Brady contract With other people that are going to be looking to be resigned in the next future years with their top overall picks vita yet devon white last year. I think they're going to obviously go all in to try and get that championship for Tom. What do you guys think about? You know instead of girly coming over and waiting down with the massive contract. I think somebody like. They're going to prioritize the pass blocking has one of the number one assets of the running back as well as power back and maybe it's JK Dobbins McGrath around. Maybe it's quite Edward Layer the second round. I don't know if you're going to adopt by the way great choices right there and thank you for the call and then for Giving a shout out to del Tufo Dobbins. I'm so happy I'm not going to see him in the big ten anymore. I don't think Dobbins is going to be available in the second round of this draft at all and I don't think Edwards air will but those are not bad ideas or you just load up I know girlies contract so what you got thirty million under the CAP right now. You've got Brady right now. Dan The torpedoes or to use another vote phrase because they got one in their end zone fire. The cannons no risk. It no biscuit. That's IT Aaron's no risk it no biscuit. The bucks fired the canons. Let's go let's go. Let's go go. Get go get girly. If you think you're going to be healthy. Now that's the whole thing to as how do you get these guys a physical and a doctor that you trust to say all right? I'll I'll I'll put all my millions in eggs in that basket have brady send his guide to them. Our number two coming up PAT McAfee America's sweetheart joining us and he said Jay Hawk will be on the phone to. That'll be fun. That's in the middle of the next hour. 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How We Can All Find Our Voice, With Valerie Jarrett, senior advisor to Barack Obama

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How We Can All Find Our Voice, With Valerie Jarrett, senior advisor to Barack Obama

"Hi, I'm Jay hawk Ghandi's. Yo girl, boss and your host for this week's episode. If I were to tell you that I knew President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama would your ears perk up. I don't but today's guests in the show does Valerie Jarrett has known the Obamas for twenty eight years since well before they were the Obamas at all started in nineteen Ninety-one gallery interviewed Michelle Obama than Michelle Robinson for a job little did. She know that that introduction to Michelle Robinson and later to Barack Obama would lead to a relationship with family. That's lasted almost three decades today. Valerie Jarrett holds the distinction of being the longest serving senior adviser to any president in history after having served as senior adviser to President Obama all eight years of his presidency. She currently is senior adviser to the Obama foundation and sits on the board of directors for companies like left and the Kennedy. Center for the performing arts, and so many others. And she recently wrote a book finding my voice my journey to the west wing and the path forward which chronicles her journey from being a quiet girl and segregated Chicago to being one of the most visible and influential African American women of the twenty first century. Welcome to cross radio the show four at about ambitious women exploring the wins losses and insights learned on the winding road to success Jerry chat with Valerie Jarrett. We spoke about how President Obama fostered a culture where anyone can speak up in the White House. Why we have a responsibility to ask for what we need and bring her whole selves to work, and why being yourself and owning your voice is a win for everyone. Here's our conversation. Sell. Valerie jarrett. Thank you so much for joining us here on girl Baath radio today. I'm delighted to be here. Just the audience. I wanted a chance to to address amazing. So I wanna start by talking a little bit about six s because you've obviously already had a lot of success. You have gone to some of the most amazing schools in the World University of Michigan for law school Stanford for your undergrad you've worked at a big law firm you've worked for to history to finding mayors in Chicago and you worked in the Obama White House for the full eight year as senior adviser that's a lot. I'm curious today. After all of that is behind you. What does success mean in your skin in your place where you live today? Well, that's a very interesting question. And thank you for. The kind comments about my rally long insecure his career. I think worry 'em today is after I left the Obama administration. I took a look back over the course of my career. And I thought to myself what are the issues that I care most about and where did I think I could throw myself into those issues and continue to make a difference, and I've had the privilege of serving in government at the local level of had the privilege of serving a not for profit boards from Charing the medical center at the university of Chicago to being on the board of the museum of science and industry here in Chicago. And then I've had the privilege of serving in the White House, but service to what end is the question. I asked myself and the issues that I care most about our number one gender equity in early in my career, I was a single working mother. But it was a lawyer. So I had means and I could afford childcare and my parents lived in the same neighborhood with me took my daughter to school every day. And my dad did I hit everything? Going for me. And I still felt like I was hanging on by my fingertips, and so I used to think, well, what about those working parents who don't have the support system. I do who are working minimum wage job and worried about where they're leaving their children through no fault of their own. I wanna fight for them. And so when I was in the White House, I chaired the White House counsel and women and girls, and when we loved decided to create the United State of women, which is a not for profit organization fighting for gender equity and lifting up what people are doing on the ground to close that gap and create a level playing field. So that's one of the successes. I'm looking forward to in the future. I'm also working with Michelle Obama with a new organization call when we all vote that's non-partisan, but designed to change the culture in our country around voting and get everybody to vote by you know, there are lots of other issues that I care about like criminal Justice reform and ending violence. And so I am using my experience. To try to move the needle on the issues that I am most passionate about and that to me defines my success. Wow. That's that's a high bar for success. Well, you know, what we all can achieve those high bars in port of war. I told my story early in the book is where I didn't really have a high bar, and I didn't really feel motivated, and I had a career that was prestigious too many. But unfulfilling to me in its that quiet voice inside of ourselves that we sometimes ignore. And I I wanted people to understand that when I stopped ignoring that voice in when I decided to do something outside of my comfort zone, which was leaving that big law firm enjoining city government. That's when the adventure became real for me. And that's when the magic started, and I built relationships and had experienced that shaped the rest of my career, but I had to make up my mind that I was going to listen to myself and do something that. Seemed unconventional. But now when I look back, it makes perfectly good sense. And what was it inside of you like what was that emotional journey that happened in new push you from that comfort zone from that safe-space into this adventure that really defined the rest of your career, misery. Very very unhappy. And I thought to myself, I I'm not an unhappy person. And I just thought this must be somebody else's life because it's not the life. I'd ever hoped for myself. And so I often think what I'm glad I was as miserable as I was because if I had been less miserable may I would have just wallowed in that for the rest of my career, and that would be sad state. So I, and I also had a friend who encouraged me, and I think we all need people in our lives who see us and can observe back to us. What they're what they're noticing in my friend said you're not fulfilled. Why don't you be a part of something bigger than yourself and government service had done that for him? And so he encouraged me to consider doing it for myself. And there, you know, I took a cut in pay. I went from a beautiful office to cubicle facing the alley. But I felt as though I was doing something purposeful. That would help the citizens of Chicago. And I learned to find my voice originally. Advocating for them, and I became to nation. My fatherhood me negotiating on the telephone with a developer who is trying to build something in the city. And he's like what happened to my delicate little blue flower. He used to call me. And I said she's gone. I've to fight for the people of Chicago. And that was the beginning of learning how to fight for anyone. And then I also learned to advocate for myself. And that that was harder for me. It was very easy for me to fight on behalf of people who I didn't think had a seat at the table and who hadn't been represented. Well, it was a little harder for me to speak up for myself. And how how did that transform in you because your book is called finding my voice, and you talk a little bit about how you know, you started out painfully shy. And it makes sense that, you know, your dad had called you his delicate blue flower, but that as a Shaikh had myself like that feels like a lifelong journey that, you know, silencing that voice of like, oh don't say that out loud. This is. Not your moment. Like think about it before you speak. Have you been able to silence? That fluids have transformed yourself in service of yourself. What a lovely way to put it. Yes. I have. Because now I don't seem to be able to stop talking. I'm talking all the time. It took practice, and I think even law school when I was in adult. I shied away from speaking publicly. I would blush I could feel my cheeks burning as soon as I opened my mouth, and I didn't speak in a confident voice. And my mother helps she's like just because you're nervous doesn't mean. Other people have to know your nervous. And so I started pretending outwardly that I wasn't nervous. And then I had a job where it turned out public. Speaking was part of the job. I had known that before I accepted the job and the first speech, I gave up my hands roll perspiring. And I'd written on a note card what I wanted to say in the ink blurred all over my hand. And I couldn't read the notes, and it was a disaster. But you know, what I got through it. And so I I think we're all a work in progress. You find your voice, and then there's always something that in the back of your mind might make you lose it for a second. And then you have to you have to work at it. You have to work at it perpetually. And then just trying to get better at it in. Recognizing that the the shyness will dissipate. Once you feel confident about you what you're doing. And that's what happened to me after I spoke enough times. And I've my confidence grew. I thought I could connect with an audience, and then lo and behold, I was no longer bushing. I love that comes down to preparation, I suppose really feeling ready preparation. Hard work in practice. Eat talked a little bit about being a work in progress. And I'm curious about what you're working on. Now, you have accomplished so much as a leader you've accomplished so much as a speaker you've overcome this sort of shyness and found your voice. What's the next thing that you want to improve yourself while I think I have to be mindful of my time and not say, yes to absolutely everything. And I'm still so flattered when people ask me to do something that I I over commit an, and I think all of us have to take a hard look regularly and say. Is this realistic? Can I be really good at everything I've committed to doing and if not begin to learn to say, I really can't make three trips to California in one week. But part of it is you get to a certain age, and you go. All right. I only have but so much time in my life. And we should have that attitude. Our entire lives. Now, what am I going to do every single day to be purposeful? And so being true to myself, and my values and my my true north is important. But I also need to recognize that I can't do everything that's such a hard lesson. I think for so many women to learn we hear that from our community all the time. Right. A lot of them are young founders. They're just starting out. They wanna say yes to everything. And then they look around after the sort of high at the top of the roller coaster. Everything's going. Well, and they're getting sick. They're not taking care of themselves. Do you have any advice for women who are trying to be more mindful of that of? Try to push themselves to say, no, yes, look, you have to have self care has to be a part of your routine. You can't put that off. And you're to figure out what grounds and centers you. And for me. It's my family, and my close friends, I don't have any siblings, and so low siblings I have chosen or the ones that are most important to me, and I surround myself with good people. And so when I was in Chicago every Saturday I'd have lunch with the same group of friends when I moved to DC I had brunch. Every Sunday, I would have dinner with my family on Sunday nights. And that once a week a replenishment was good for me. I I also think we have to build exercise into our routine not just because it's good for our body. But I think it also gives you a sense of you're doing something for you. And when I was a young mom, I used to get up really early before my daughter woke up, and I would go and work out while she was still sleeping, and no matter what happened the rest of the day. I knew I had. That precious time built in just for me. The other thing I say, and this is particularly to working moms is you can't think that you're super human. And I was trying to be the perfect lawyer. The perfect mother the perfect spouse, and I wouldn't ask for help. And I wouldn't admit to anybody not even to myself that it was hard. I was pretending that I could do it all effortlessly in. That's ridiculous. It's all hard. And so you, and you also have to be open about why it's so difficult. So that people who are in a position to make it easier for you know, what they need to do. And I think for young women sometimes it's hard to speak up and say, this is what I need in order to thrive. And you have to look at yourself as it's you're not just selling yourself, but wherever you're working, and if you're in your own business, you're creating your own culture, and that culture has to be one where people are comfortable being themselves. And I say to people if you have to lie about who you are in your place of work, and you're able to find a new place of work move on now, some people have no choice in really are in then they need champions who were fighting for them. Which is why issues like equal pay and workplace flexibility paid leave or the only developed country to the doesn't have a national pay leave program sick days. Oh, environment free from sexual harassment, a healthy culture, all of these are not just good to do for women. I think their business imperatives if you wanna compete in this global marketplace, and so culture matters. And I, and I think that the only way we can shape culture is if the people who are directly impacted speak up fair. Do you think that does our policy changes? Do you think that we can make meaningful change on things like fair-play and sick days at the corporate level, and that'll be enough for it has to come from. Our governments. I don't think it's either. Or I think it should be both end. I think it's helpful when you have laws in place that provide the outside parameters of what we expect from our society. But I also think in the absence of those laws that the next best thing is for individual companies to make up their own minds that it's important because it gives them a competitive advantage. And I had a woman come up to me a few weeks ago when I mentioned this. And she said, why are you making a business case? Why don't you just say it's the right thing to do. And I said, yes, it's definitely the right thing to do. But my experience in business is that when companies are just doing something they think is like the right thing to do. Or the nice thing to do if the economy gets tight or of their business starts to get in trouble. The first thing that you cut are the nice to do in. So I approach it from a different perspective. I approach it by saying diversity is a strength. It's gives you a competitive advantage to be able to attract and retain the. Most talented people in you can't do that. If you don't recognize fact that they have a life of side of work. And if you just simply run them, you know as hard as you can without any appreciation for what's good for their soul. Then they're going to burn out. And then you're going to have to hire somebody else you're going to have high turnover and not so much loyalty in the good news is that younger women and men are speaking up and using their voices and saying before I decide to work here. 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So you're on the board of directors of lift at are these kinds of conversations that you feel like you're able to have in those board meetings, and those bird rooms is that what you bring or one of the things that you bring to the table as a guide Nate advisor for companies like that for all of the boards. I'm on. I wouldn't have joined the board of any of the companies upon which I serve unless I thought that the leadership from the CEO and founders throughout the senior ranks did not embrace those core values, and so that's what I look for before. Joining aboard do they share my core values to they appreciate the fact that the we have to lead, by example, and that corporate citizenship in a sense is filling a role that we're not seeing from government. And yes, I think we should to answer your question. Have it come from government? But I also think that pressure can be put by employers who are doing. Right thing on other employers to encourage them to fall asleep got. So you're choosing companies where you don't have to teach them those things they come to the table sharing values. They have to share my values. And then we have a great conversation about how to display those values. So that's my perspective on that. I hope enriches the conversation you I mean to that point would you advise women who are looking to be on boards. I think sometimes the opportunities that come up, obviously, not always are ones where it feels a little bit more. Like a token where it's our first board seat being given to woman. It's our first board seat being given to a person of color, would you buys against taking those seats because it doesn't reflect that culture of inclusivity you're talking about or do you just you take the opportunities that come to you? Otherwise, how are we gonna make change? Well, there's two thoughts. I think that you combine their one is if you get the feeling that they're just checking a box in. No, you don't wanna be a box. Chucker because then a token, basically means that they're not interested in you. They just wanna be able to go out and tell people I have a woman or a person of color on my board. But if what they're saying instead is we don't have a good track record of diversity. I now recognize this new marketplace it's important in. So I want to start somewhere, and yes, you are going to be the trailblazer on the board. But that your views will be respected and that you're there because they know you present a different perspective than everybody else. Then I think it's important for those of us who are given that opportunity to be trailblazers. And then when you go through the door, leave it open, so that you can bring another person in because there is safety in numbers in I have been in the situation before not now, but in prior boards, where you're the first then, okay? So my the one that always has to bring up the issue about the importance of diversity in my the one who has to say, what are we doing in hiring to make sure that we're going to each us, for example. I mean, do I have to be that? That person that's the social conscience of the board or can I serve on the audit committee because I care about that too. And I think when to get a few people on the board it's easier number one to speak up because you're not the lone voice in the forest, but also that you can share the responsibility, and you don't have to solely be viewed through that narrow lens of the person who's providing the diversity of quote perspective. Definitely. And I think that actually brings me to something that I've always heard about the culture of working in the Obama White House, which is that President Obama had this practice of you know, in meetings looking around and saying, hey, like, you're someone who hasn't spoken up. What do you have to say and really sort of bringing to the table the quieter voices in the room? He may be might not have contributed. Otherwise, is that something that you saw happen. What was that? Like, it was empowered because even in the White House there were shy. By people who were hesitant about expressing their opinion to the president of the United States leader of the free worlds. Little intimidating and he knew that. And I think is a manager in this applies not just to the president states managers across America. You've to recognize it. If you don't give people permission to speak up often, they won't and if they don't speak up, you're not necessarily hearing in important idea that wouldn't have come to you otherwise. And he knew that he was curious and he wanted to know what not just the senior people think, but he wanted to know what are the junior people think and they see the world through a different lens and very consciously deliberately giving people the space that they need to speak up was empowered going for them. And I think has a result. He was presented with more information upon which to make informed decisions. And that's that's your job is to even if. Ultimately, your manager or the president doesn't agree with you. You gave him a perspective or her a perspective that they didn't have. But for you speaking up, and it's a good management strategy to look around the room, and you can usually tell when someone is shy or not confident. And if somebody disagreed with President Obama within he leaned in, and he said, tell me tell me why you disagree. I want to really understand your perspective. And that also empowered people to speak up. That's mazing. I created a safe space for people to not just be yes-men a safe space in effect. I was with somebody a few days ago who served in the administration with me, and he said to me that one time President Obama pulled him aside after meeting, and he said, I wanna hear you speak up because you've been awfully quiet in the meetings, and the person didn't have policy responsibility. And he said that and President Obama said is still care. What you have to say, it doesn't matter. Whether you're a policy expert, you have a view. If you have a view, I wanna hear it. Well, imagine how empowering that is one somebody who's in a powerful position says to you directly. I need to hear your perspective. It's still incredible. I think fact, so many jobs I've had where I would have been a different person if someone attacked me on the shoulder and that way. Well, of course, it and it helps you grow in. Once you say something, I mean, I've been in situations. Well, my first corporate board I was on to switch back to the private sector. My first corporate board. I was young. I was in my early thirties mid thirties. I guess, and I was totally intimidated by the people around the table on I thought, well, what do I know? Right. And we were sitting in a meeting and I had a question. And I thought it was a stupid question. So I didn't ask don't, you know, two minutes later, a billionaire who is one of the biggest investors in the company asked my question, and I thought to myself. Well, why did I ask that question in everybody? Responded to him as it was an intelligent question. And so later, I said to him, you know, I had that same question. And he said, well, why didn't you speak up? I thought it was a stupid question. And he said there are no stupid questions when you're sitting on a board. And I've held that with me now was that was twenty years ago plus that that situation occurred. But I think we should all it. Who cares? If somebody else thinks it's stupid if it's going to help you make a better decision than you should ask the question. Wow. That comes from that sort of like more deep seated fear of, you know, do I belong here is my worth here. Just as much as anyone else's my question matter as much. Yes, it gets into that whole imposter syndrome to that. I think we all struggle with to some degree. And I think if you have the job you have to convince yourself I got up because I am I am with merit. And that my voice matters. My voice can make. Better outcome as a result of my contribution. Even if the decision maker ultimately disagrees with me, I've made here she think about it from a different perspective that feels very different that style of leadership that you're talking about, and that's sort of fashion of confidence. Then some of what you write about also in the Obama White House about how Rahm Emanuel lead. You said, you know, he was an equal opportunity screamer. But you saw that the women were internalizing it more. And I'm just curious. I know you mentioned the he didn't scream at you. But how did that shift the environment? You see any sort of pros to leading in that way. Well, no. And I think I mean to just give it the full context of the situation. We're in the middle of the worst economic crisis since the great depression, we had a lot of balls up in the air in were frayed of dropping them and trying to get a big stimulus package through congress than than a. -firmative agenda of health care, energy, reform, etc. And it was a very kind of intense environment. And there was a lot of screaming, and I found that. Well, I was the only woman who had a pre existing relationship with President Obama. And I think the rest of the women do what we all do, which is you bring your past experience to the table. And when they're alone allowed voices in the room. Sometimes we shrink. But when I brought it to President Obama's attention. He said, well that's unacceptable. I wanna culture here that means everybody speaks up, and and you don't have to yell to be heard he invited the women all over for dinner, the senior women, and he and I said to them ahead of time. You gotta be honest and tell them what your issues are. So that he can help us solve it. And what he said again that was so empowering to them was if you're not speaking up, then I am making a decision without the benefit of your thought. And I picked you a hand picked all of you. Because I know you're not gonna necessarily see things the way the guy see things or the way anybody else sees them. You're going to give me your unique perspective, and that's your job. And I don't care if they're screaming, why do care actually. But I don't that can't get in the way. And so he said give me a bit to try to help change this culture. He asks Rhonda help him change, the culture. And he said if it doesn't get better, let Valerie now, and we'll have another dinner. And after the dinner of the women just Phelps so heard in so valued by him. And I started having dinner with the group without him on a regular basis in the end of every dinner. I would say does anybody need to talk to President Obama again. Or are we good, and they would all say, no, we're fine. And out of that we developed relationships with one another which gets back to my earlier point about their safety in numbers. So if you've had dinner with a group the night before, and then you go into a meeting, and you see around the table people who you've talked about, you know, your wishes for your children or a sick parent, or you know, of competing in this sporting event over the weekend and I- stub my toe. And I'm no, you know, my ankle hurts you talked about your life, and it gives you confidence to speak up more. So than when you're thinking with a table of simply work colleagues. And I think that that exercise of us all getting together made for a better dynamic among us and that allowed. Us to them be better contributors with the whole group. That's sell incredible. That sort of sense of bringing out everyone's humanity sort of treating each other a little bit differently. But I do want to go back to you know, suppose, you are a woman in a workplace where someone is leading with maybe fear tactics or is screaming, and you don't have President Obama to pull you aside and say, you know, we're gonna get through this. And maybe you don't have someone who has your back. Do you have advice to those women who sort of feel like their backs up against the wall? You're there is that sort of like, our producers used the phrase, lizard, brain response of you know, fighter flight and for me when someone yells at me, my natural instinct is like the tier start to comment just get out of the room. But how do you deal with that? Because I do think there is a more female response to being yelled at makes it harder. We'll one thing I have done in my life in not. It so much in the White House. But in other jobs is it if I sell behavior that I thought wasn't helping the group dynamic, I would pull a person aside after the meeting not in embarrass anybody in a meeting, but I would pull him aside. And I'd say, you know, it's really hard for me to even think when you're yelling like that. Because sometimes when people are behaving in a way, they're not thinking about how it's being received. They're just thinking about how they feel and you know, I'm I'm concerned. And so I'm raising my voice, and I'm trying to intimidate people in. I think we all have to try to coach the people with whom we work and do it in a way that is not insulting. But get your point across. And I also do say this though, unless you don't have a choice in there are certainly women who do not have a choice. Maybe you're working in you got two jobs, and you are worried about putting food on the table. You may not feel empowered to speak up, which is part of why I think the rest. Of us have to speak up for those folks. But those of us who aren't a position to use our voices we have to do it in. When I tell us somewhat funny story, my book about being nine months pregnant and working at two in the morning with a bunch of male colleagues and lawyers and clients and try to close them deal, and I get up, and I say, I'm going to the vending machine. And then I get up and say, I'm going to check my voicemail, and I get up and say, I am going to Xerox machine. Two of the three that we don't ever do anymore. Where was I really going? I was nine months pregnant, I was going to the bathroom, and I was so afraid to tell anybody I have to call the bathroom. Well, why am I that's a normal thing that happens to women when they're nine months pregnant, you go all the time. And I was so busy trying to pretend that nothing was happening. You know below my neck. Because I thought people wouldn't take me as seriously. And that's I think a mistake because we have to eat to help the guys understand what happens to us. And I think you know, whatever guy would leave to go watch a kid play soccer. Everybody would go. Oh, what a wonderful to have and women in my generation were afraid to say, look, I've gotta go leave for this purpose. I used to make up excuses about going to a meeting when I was really taking my daughter to the pediatrician because I was afraid what will people think of me? And I think we're I have learned is it when we're when we're empowered to do. So when we were in a position where we can leave if it doesn't work out. Well, we have to speak up and oftentimes in so doing we educate the guys in positions to make decisions to be more comma dating in. I talked about telling mayor Daley, the mayor Chicago in the middle of a meeting very intense meeting where he was a bad mood about something. And he noticed I was looking at my watch and inquired as to why. And I said, you know, the Halloween parade starts in like twenty minutes and we're twenty five minutes away. And he said than what are you doing here? Well, what if I had never said that to him? What if I just sat through the meeting, I wouldn't have been there? When my daughter came out in second grade, costume, we can all cute looking for her mother. So we do have to let people know what our needs are. And then we also have to work, really hard. So you've got to earn the respect of the people with whom you're working. And then you gotta be able to say to them look in order for me to be whole and do this over the long stretch. I need x y z right? Using your power to ask the things that wouldn't be given to someone who didn't have the power to ask. I guess is. Well, exactly, exactly. So I wanna talk about something that I thought was super interesting. You talk a little bit about sort of inauguration day, you're settling into the White House. And you make this aside about you know, you. Knew that race was going to be an issue and the Obama White House that this is going to be something that changed the way the work of the administration was perceived, and you didn't talk about it a lot. But you felt it, and it changed the way you work. I'm curious about why did you feel like you couldn't talk about it? Or you felt like it was counterproductive. I think what we learned in the course of the campaign and certainly experience the experience in the White House's races. Always a touchy issue in our society. Have those conversations it makes people uncomfortable. I think the conversations we need to be having. But it always makes people uncomfortable. President Obama gave a big speech in the middle of his primary race in two thousand seven and eight about race. Because of some of the remarks made by his former pastor, and so we we have to be willing to explain. And talk and describe for us to see the on the color of our skin and get to the content of our character. And I think because President Obama was the first African American president he and his wife, and an I you do feel an extra responsibility. And that you don't feel you have the same latitude for error within you do when you're not the trailblazer. You know that not only are people going to do you buy your conduct but potentially the rest of your race. And you don't wanna make it harder for the next black president. Or if you're woman the next woman president of the next gay president you wanna represent well. And that's just the reality of the situation. And so there wasn't a whole lot of point in talking about it because we all knew that we were going to be held to a higher standard. And so just get out the business of working as hard as you can coloring well within the lines as my father used to say, even when I was in kindergarten, and therefore, you know. That because you know, the margin of error is a lot less and when you do speak about race to try to do it in a way. The calls upon our better selves. And so when President Obama, for example, said if I had a son he looked like Trayvon Martin. It was designed to generate some empathy for how a parent might feel about a son and that even the president of the United States could have a son walking down the street in his own neighborhood. But be seen only as a black person who was a threat in a speech about race during the campaign. He talked about his own grandmother who was uncomfortable in an elevator with a group of black boys. And and by putting it out there and doing it in a way, which isn't yelling or or or calling names. It's just stating the simple facts in the hope that people can use it as a teaching moment and rise above it. Or when he was in Charleston after Reverend Pinkney and eight parishioners were murdered in Charleston in a church on a home of worship were they'd been in a bible study class with the guy who ultimately shot them for an hour. And at the end of that hour, he opens fire in the family say, we forgive you improve. Obama said, yes. And let's not just talk about taking down the confederate flag, which is a good thing. Well, let's talk about what are we going to do to rebuild the schools and improve the relationship between police and communities of color, and so you have to go higher than just the current situation in you have to call upon people to see the goodness in one another and not just the color of the skin. Yeah. Is that part of why you didn't really engage or have that much to say about, you know, things around like Roseanne Barr are things where maybe there isn't a higher purpose? Yeah. That's exactly right. That's what I said. Let's make this a teaching moment and have a conversation about teenage girls who are walking through a department store and they're being followed by the security guards. Whereas they're white counterpart teenagers, aren't or black boys who were all told by their parents, you have to act a certain way, if you get Starr stopped by the police, even if you're white. Friends are acting the same way you have to behave in a way that is not perceived as a threat, those are the conversations that I think we need to be having. So that it isn't like tweeting at somebody that you don't even know hiding behind the veil of anonymity which happens with social media so often but sitting down and really trying to understand one another in a meaningful way. When people have goodwill can do that. And I think what we tried to do so hard in the administration was to create as you to use your word earlier, a safe space, not just for those within the White House. But also those from the outside who wanted to come in and often had conflicting views about what the outcome should be. But to get them to listen to one another and to recognize that compromise isn't a bad word, you shouldn't compromise your values or your your character, your integrity, but on policy sometimes you don't get one hundred percent of what you want. Sometimes just good is better. Better. And you shouldn't let perfect be the enemy of the good. So I think on that note to close I'd love to understand, you know, something we talk about here, a girl boss lot is that we wanna bring access to women like you women who have accomplished incredible things and had these spectacular career as in, you know, you're really just halfway through it. There's so much more to come. But to bring our community access to women like you. So that they can learn from you, and I'm curious sitting where you are today. What's your advice for women of color, especially who are coming up today who maybe don't have to overcome some of the obstacles that you've overcome that are coming to the workplace at a different time. What's your best advice for them to be heard to advance to potentially make their voices and their work as known and celebrated as possible? Well, first of all you have to work, really hard. There's no substitute for being prepared. So the what opportunities do knock you are prepared for them. And you have to advocate for yourself. And you have to do it in a way where people can hear you one thing. My mother used to never yell. She's she's still doesn't at age ninety. She's not a yeller. And what I find is that people can hear you better. If you lower your voice and save to be conscious of the fact that maybe people are going to be put off a little bit by you. If you come at them too hard. And so just take it down a notch and try to talk to people in a way where they can hear your message without them thinking, it's a threat, and that's not just that's two men and women regardless of color. We should be listening to each other. In speaking to each other invoices that maximize our potential of being heard, and I think the other important thing is you have to have a mentor and an advocate. And I had both. I had an African American woman who was my client. And she was also a my fr-, she became my friend. And she went to bat for me in more ways than I could count and invested in me. And in return, I was fiercely loyal to her, and I worked, you know night and day to try to meet her high expectations. But we we all need somebody looking out for us in an organization, which means you can't just work. You have to tell your story you have to make people comfortable with you. You have to make them want to invest in you and as opposing closing. I would say in my book, I had a chapter call my best hire ever. And it was then Michelle Robinson now Michelle Obama, and she came in for an interview where she asked me some really tough questions about the job not just trying to sell herself. And I think so often we sell ourselves. But we don't realize we're in the buyer's market too. And so I think for women of color, you're going into a job interview. Or let's say your gay person. Or let's say you have a disability or anyone of a million other things you have to make sure that you're entering an environment that will embrace you. And that will and will value any diversity that you bring to the table. And if you don't sense that and you don't have to take the job, then fine one where you will be accepted and embraced. And then once they're take that as a license to speak up and make sure that you're advocating not just for yourself. But for others. Thank you so much. Valerie Jarrett for joining us today. This was amazing. You were welcome. You're welcome. And that's our show for today. Thanks for listening and things to Valerie Jarrett for joining us. And before you go just a quick reminder. We review and subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. And if you want to get in touch with a strictly send us an Email at podcasts at girl loss dot com. We love hearing your thoughts Michelle that's it for now till next time. Bye.

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PMS 2.0 118 - Super Bowl Champ, AJ Hawk, Is All The Way Back & Some Phoners

The Pat McAfee Show 2.0

1:16:05 hr | 10 months ago

PMS 2.0 118 - Super Bowl Champ, AJ Hawk, Is All The Way Back & Some Phoners

"We recorded the conversation with Jay Hawk that you are GonNa find entertaining I think every time he and I chat how's it going it is Thursday October seventeenth two thousand nineteen we are live in Chinatown in San Francisco make sure that we don't piss anybody off speaking of companies that won't Piss you off seek will always was earlier in the day apparently it's later in the day back home so we're kind of rushing to put this together read these ads to whole loan in my hotel bedroom because the Pacific Standard Time Zone has kicked us all right in the taint we thought deeply about my life but I'm very thankful for all of you and hopefully we continue to enjoy the hell out of this together cheers here's a great conference of me as the start of the show surprise me that he was so juicy loved it well you are a man who needs no introduction does the world knows of your greatness l. let's remember to have a little self-awareness here if we are wealthy already let's go ahead and use pat and just get the ten dollars off if we're not wealthy yet use Promo Code McAfee I mean I I don't know if I was I don't know I guess I made one tweet just asking about the dude listening to his earpiece coming from New York which I thought again this is you're getting the Best Bang for your buck right now he's Bronco Pat you get ten dollars off your First Order Promo Code McAfee twenty dollars off your first order Okay Masa very thankful for our presenting sponsor seek seek is the greatest ticket buying platform on planet earth and the Moon that's right I'm recording this ad when you he wasn't here show or all your shows whatever the hell you do now and the he he took off like when we started the show he used year like thirty second intro as bring you happiness because if there is a live event happening seekie has the greatest tickets available for you at the best prices if you want to go to a sporting event they gotcha or these football nope and Yeah my life is a dumb one I may or may not have stopped at the dispensary just a little bit ago and have been thinking twenty dollars off we both cuts keep gone you know what I mean to slow softwares if you can if you don't need a full twenty dollars off if you don't sound good over here we saw you sound good with us all right I can kind of hear myself I hate that though by the way when I can't hear me mostly because everybody else gets here my greatness why can't I Asian with a super bowl champ he's on his computer can you turn things I was mark computer no that's how I feel about you love here in Greatest Ladies and gentlemen joining us now a man who has a license plate that says Ohio State legend the work myself gotten a chance to I would say become friends with you in a manner that not a lot of people do in your electric on a microphone three well she didn't really piling up for you use pat for ten dollars off your first order McAfee for twenty dollars off store your the absolute best people on Earth that you choose listen to the I had the idea that why don't we sell this as what's brings new revenue in what's open that audio up for people and we could you could pay four ninety nine a month or something I don't know I think a lot of people would the rest on the field I think that'd be interesting out enjoy it I agree completely I think there should also be somebody up in a booth that kind of has their ear anytime he wants to with like a bunch of twenty have we can make that I've been watching those replays as are you decisions are being weakened I can make the decision like this I assume you can't as well it's almost games college football nfl whatever it is if it has a ticket and you WANNA go seek supplies for it because they scan all the other ticket buying platforms and make sure he has worked up this picture flag up and I mean it would be cool but I think it just it would probably slow the game down even that pat so I don't know if you I'm sure don't know this but so I do an addy. MMA show on Sirius just once a week and my co host RJ Clifford heard one time I guess he's a man who played in the NFL for a long time super bowl champion incredibly handsome linebacker a j Lanka hey for that and I think they should run it on the networks during the game like they should cut to that audio sometimes you know when they cut to the audio now of players that are miked up and it's terrible use here people the rest which is not an AJ hawk thing to do by the way it seems as if you've joined you ford the river you're all in on these rafts thinking in my accurate with that aim and you're sitting there and you have all fifty two right and you have the excess thing which we are all very adapt and skilful with and we could do it and we have the four K camera shots at all Bazi tripped England he and I went on and I had a great cadence I had a good you know what the refs yeah I would talk to him I usually try to to butter him up and just you know tell them hello and try to watch out for the cheap shots and dude's coming at my legs and if there was a but he ever let's make this a quicker operation I think it will speed it up personally I mean it should in theory it should speed it up but you know like whenever you get more people involved usually it messes things up so you'd have to you got to do a really good job of who that person is on staff who the people are in New York review all these plays that person would be in so how how would that slowed down if the guy is within let's say they have you or let's say they have another good football mind up somebody doesn't want to be a raft but doesn't mind helping the and he called me for false start made vegetarian kick a thirty eight yard extra point instead of the nose tackle that obviously fell off sides because of my incredible being paid for so the laces are supposed to be somewhere near the front every single time that is literally what the staffers being paid for so everytime subscribing I got it well you see my boy news kicking for the Patriots now if you saw when he I missed his first extra point there I guess catch that ball it's the snappers job in the NFL by the way it is the snappers job to snap the laces the same place every single time that is what they're being judged upon that is what agency refused to admit my greatness with my cadence and caught it on me and made vegetarian life harder made me a bad guy locker room blah blah blah vinnie made to kick unless but water anyway think okay well yeah then I agree I think this should happen I just don't think it will and you know what the new CBA is they claim now in the NFL that we live in where the designated long snapper it is that person Dhabi get the laces forward at least a bit so the holder can make a play work so it's a big mental toughness thing that Nugegoda got through but he definitely was fought for sure doodoo kickers practice kicking the laces well not mine obviously and as a holder when you're watching a ball come back just like a batter you're trying to find the laces so as soon as you catch it you hope that your hands are either on it or you found opening up let's make it transparent open this audio let's hear hey we're getting fox how did you talk to a lot of middle linebacker quarterback for the defense did you have a lot of interaction and whenever I get a chance to call game with Texas Tech Baylor that was a blast where we got to podcast together that was a blast every time I talked to you I enjoy the hell out of it now you're starting to get chirpy it there's a dead space where your hands aren't at which is basically right at your left titty if you're holding for a right handed kick are that's exactly my Guy Jeff trip would I stayed away from him in which to Yemen I still have a hard time with that guys won't Anderson why right and then he had that kick what last week and he kicked straight laces how tough is that to do I wish they would have they ran it back in they showed it at least when I came back from commercial because I saw to camera Xhosa thing type thing where as soon as a flag is thrown like the hands and face illegal hands and face on Monday night they can just drop in Blake and be like fuck that up once or twice maybe every couple of weeks you gotta help your snapper because snappers only very consistent got do it but when that time comes Aj it's organized chaos because you're never going to put them in that position I did I used to do a lot of drills we did the other day in here and I don't even think the guys knew we were doing embarrassing to watch how long they have to review things whenever you see something that's an easy answer that's right there have that person is up there and be like we take a long look at it actually looks challenges with review this you can really honestly lasers can fuck up the direction of a kick a lot it can fuck up the length of the kick a lot in new had really no shot there it takes a lot of mental and I think it was you know obviously the Finkel Einhorn's situation where Marino took the blame for the laces laces out Dan which I think back then it was probably on the holder more so than anything it's their defense that is really not being talked about enough what do you think about that Patriots Defense Upper Aj I apologize for interrupting the Ashford University is a WSC you see accredited institution that offers innovative online degree programs that can help you achieve your higher education goals it was going straight and then it just kind of hooked to the left in the interesting thing there was the holder actually seem to spin the laces straight back to which is a situation that happens because when the G. 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Aj You you were cut off so I figure arms pretty good man I'm like all right pat still still getting it in easy easy Asia validated dumped. I'm trying to this is good I'm trying to do a whole podcast working out so I am so thankful for what you said it feels like my workout routine is completely vindicated it's all paying off I mean you you kind of have to force your mobile studio I guess but you're indy and it's like you do stand up you stand there and you you have like monologues era what's his name Jimmy Fallon stored dot com you could buy this now I I like to sleeveless because you don't have to do much apps or chess you just have to arms which is what I do so it works you're keeping up right now medical apps maybe I don't think heart attack I think the only thing that's GonNa kill me as his exhaustion but I'm at this point now and I tweeted this out and on there you gotta be playing like they're on fucking guitar playing then like Ac dc you gotta spin that thing for pays off he's a little bit young he'll get there but it is very difficult really mentored catch like a second win their late night like two three am if you haven't slept but you're just like your body's like our back I honestly believe I'm onto my third one in you make that a nine six game on there for five field goals I'm fucking all in let's go let's see the dow and out there you know what I mean yeah I know the good thing is for the audio people L. Two three four years I feel like I didn't really have the right role for obviously the Patriots found the right role they got hightower that their linebackers are legit they find a way I don't know man that's the Patriots I am actually I are champions together we get a chance to win a golf tournament together I wish I wish you were came down that was not there why aren't you invite you weren't invited are already negotiated a little bit and there's some back and forth with the League you know the the PA is not going to get anything new there's going to be anything groundbreaking one give the PA something to fight for us her that it won't be able to do this but it's react very well right now have you well I'm sure when you when you travel when you're on the road you're you're getting up early before you go on these early shows and do everything that you're getting in in the in the next week or so it post a picture where you're just like it's one hundred percent like you can see that you're flexing but it's not like a full go flex but it's like you're trying to hide Jermaine just full hand in the pocket start shaking your smart man thank you so much that means a lot it's good one this third wind is a good one I feel good I just know that I'm going to be exhausted in the body just says reacted well I'm pretty proud of my body to be honest I thought I abused it so much armpit automation put your arm around him I don't put my arm around people whenever I have sleeveless I a little bit of truth thank I've been doing a lot of the arms in front like Kinda Cross type it has been one that has been quite a kick in the paint but I've been enjoying the games themselves like if you could just air drop me into the booth just for the hey before the studying you have to do and then the traveling to these tiny towns that have these incredible colleges at and traveling out of it and then I got the daily show the schedule I would love that I would absolutely love that but I don't think I'd enough respect for everything else that goes on with calling the game if that makes sense absolutely was like two and a half hours I'm on stage that's it I live for that like everything else hate it with a passion I I don't know if I hate every travel with bands I travel with bands do those band workouts every morning and hotel and every night note and I'm just doing arms I'm just doing bison tries and shrug so it looks like Lebron up to you get your estimate show you do once a week you talk the football where do you talk the football at yeah I don't know all over I do I got a serious show today I do day on the the big ten channel and do the NFL channel whatever traveling doing games on weekends all your call you're calling games yeah I do a bunch of conference USA stuff Thursday night football and random towns for thirteen weeks yeah you want to do this wwe NFC stuff you want to wwe watch long stuff yeah self to do that by wearing cutoff sweatshirts five days out of seven what our analyst Jay a long-sleeve for the brand sweatshirt which you can buy now it's that long I mean I think it's yeah it's good but still does anyone wanna see ten to six football game or a fourteen two nine I know you're positive guy you've got to play this character character I don't think I hate it I just don't think Thursday night football thing is the most tasking because of the travelling and studying and then the game and then the traveling home get home so I just that's acting enough like you've been doing this now for years and years and years do you have any tips for me anything that I could potentially learn from what I've been doing it for I guess going on two years now for your hundred percent right like have you heard rockstar say this they they're like man they've been torn for thirty years so not stadiums and arenas and they're like man how do you still do it does isn't it a grind like with the spewing out on national television and I'll never remember it again we got Ucla Stanford again this week I called UCLA's game a month and a half ago I don't remember shit standing up I don't know what you're doing you're an hour nineteen of of the day already for shows that you're doing every day I love to set up your this new setup in your cure mrs five of them you talked about not knowing players in nothing to really find film to watch on them I gotta go find their twitter accounts of highlights that they post themselves so that's crew I it's fun to watch you how do you like being there and doing it consistently now it's a grueling schedule I don't think I expected like the coaches meetings people argue that I have one of the best memories probably on Earth at this point I very very proud of my memory very very proud of it no yeah okay I'm very I'm there I do it and I move on I don't know there's something I can just it flushes instantly when I'm done with something that happens with me with every show I do by the way I have I so I've been doing all I've been run around man I like doing the Games so you Thursday night Thursday night games you and Hasselbeck would adam mean you guys are good good all the information I could possibly get and then hopefully shit outright I almost called one team the same team was the team from the week before I mean it's been an interesting situation I don't think I ever proud of my memory I feel good about it I mean granted there's probably some scholar out there who has a good memory that I could probably battle against if I felt can had to you know that scoreboard gamer thanks so I could flex the tries to drive best please do that at least I'm going to look to see I learned I think the most is I don't I didn't respect enough it's literally just like gobble up all the information that can cram Cram Cram Cram Cram and then hopefully the brain remembers shit me neither I have a great sweat your swing looks legit though thank you thank you I agree I wish the ball fucking because the ball knew that my bred back to the chopping block I don't know if that's right sixteen times and then the guy turns it off and five minutes later he goes who can tell me like match the Pictures Bang everytime knock that thing out before it even starts this the way there is a person came and talked to the team and he was this guy about that I couldn't even tell you a single thing it was just a cramming purge situation single thing about him so what's going to happen I'm just scoop like fucking Zeke and a cereal Bowl uh-huh that golf tournament and Bahamas I saw him right before he went to that and afterwards he loved you down there no I mean I don't think I'm good Golfer to play in that anyway me neither Jay to say that I didn't think I had enough respect for any of the fucking I don't think I had respect for any of them so now we're just balls deep in the middle of the body's got to third wind and to be honest you're working games like the game so the games I'm doing luckily have some of the same teams a few times but yeah I don't there's times I'm doing these high school games for Adidas I'm doing don't feel weird though if you're ever see Anybo- obviously people love you all payroll for the breadth and they wanna like you take something weird like when you're putting they try to learn that stuff is so you gotta call it like like you know woman you do you gotta find all this information but I'm like you I think my brain similar to you and that way it tricep extensions for you and for me I do everything if you ever see my hand in my pocket to that's the classic Goto a like a motivational guy I forget it was rookie he lined up sixteen letters and numbers on the screen ready flashed up on the screen and I looked it just brightens my day the dudes fucking hilarious Andy was incredible at football I'm very thankfully joins US suspected the grind enough whenever I was you're saying yes to everything in the offseason you'll have a daily show yeah you get up in New York on the you you too where I'll get done Kona game in someone back Oh what happened about our north Texas warned their score like I have no idea ed now's probably high in there so I was thinking this meat I thought it was like as soon as possible type thing so I was trying to figure it out I was like okay bring the what was on that screen up there or whatever and I was like oh it's easy it's bt BCC beat sixteen and he was like nobody's the entire guys thing I just completely fucked it completely ruined it all because I was just inquisitive at it so I really trust my brain but in the short term memory ever entered four in my thing was going to be his entire thing was basically they're paying attention to things more if we want to embrace mobile and I basically just fuck this entire guys thing that happens in a moment immediately and then some people like us I couldn't even guess I couldn't even guess what happens out there like every once in a while they do those Sunday night recap a preseason games I never knew if we WANNA loss but regular season I would not want I rarely would know the score and I couldn't go back and shows on local news or whatever and I would you know go get food or whatever with my family and then I would turn on the local news like one of my teammates would be on there regretable shit but then sometimes when the bronze speaks very insightful and entertaining I honestly do I wonder why that happens why some people can recall every that's how his brain works and that's part of the reason he's so good I think a lot of quarterbacks have that crazy recall why that's why they're playing like five steps ahead of everybody else they had that Sean mcvay after the game each completely forget I didn't remember Shit Yeah I don't I don't have one of those memories either we get done with games and I knew we if we WANNA loss of a single clue what is that about us you think what is that that it just all spews out and then later I'll be able to remember it but in a moment I've no idea I don't know maybe are we on the spectrum a little bit I would assume I think that is you know like like rainman you're you're basically rainman I think I am that's why I want to read at twenty one video where he called back to what play he was probably going to call her what he did call and then Lebron did that into full breakdown of whatever you know sometimes the bronze speaks get into like a zone almost yeah I think you're it's like when you're when you call a game like you said you have to Gob all this information up you gotta get there okay by the way because I think I could potentially banned from casinos if I had to okay I have a question for both of you what are you both played football did that happen like do you remember every single play when I could I would live in that moment I guess in the game's over and you're maybe I was just mentally exhausted I don't know what was or just to realize like okay oh you certain like I don't have a photographic memory like that I don't have the Rico night I talked I've talked to Erin about that I think all great quarterbacks have rogers he he can tell you any play like he'll he'll of like us getting crushed and he's like obviously they were doing well I think that happens to a lot of people honestly I think it does because you kind of get into like a game there's a question do you think he to it all week you prepare and you know the game plan you know what they are they're tendencies are here's what they do and second medium here's what they likely come out with the first play of drive all this stuff and then the for me at least tell me stuff about Michael and I have no clue by twenty eleven we're replaying the panthers in you guys you brought blitz on third down and you kind of got tripped up I think you got a little like aw does anybody happening lots let me go to twitter we'll see what everybody else's thinking I was like I don't even yes can you play checkers though I think it'd be a pretty good checkers player that's what I think I think checkers is like street-smart chastise more like the book smart people were like Planning Long I think checkers we I'm over got this you're you're sitting there for two and a half hours calling a game and then all of a sudden it gets done you're like who aren't cool it's gone I think that's how it is Kinda when you play in your leading also checkers players and also street-smart individuals where the Book Smart People Love Jeopardy they love chess and I would assume they are very much a much more street-smart and have self-awareness then be super book smart not but also like not know how to turn a laundry machine or washing machine I'm not saying I know how to and they'd be like so what do you think happened in the second quarter in my you could obviously tell no fucking game you saw Kinda get after them that and then they're showing highly show after doing a show for two hours and something like okay what are some clips we should cut descend westwood one potentially pitched other shows I'm like fucking did you listen L. Hopefully get no it's it's not a law I think that's a reason why you're so good in the moment because you're not thinking about the next moment yama checkers player I'm not a chess player everybody knows that says more like reactionary like let's figure this out right now as opposed to it just like wheel of fortune first jeopardy I'm a wheel of Fortune Jeopardy Guy I would assume all the people and wheel of fortune urging people with more degrees than us yeah it depends how you define intelligence is would you rather be I and I know your answer probably wouldn't you rather be when people try to remain super easy and I just I'm not a numbers Guy Anyway I'm basically have a learning disability when it comes to math too so it's it's onto the next one let's let's keep it moving my favorite thing was when I realized that it's going to happen with me calling games to just like he does with shows football and everything else and stand up everything happens all time Oh let's take in low deeper because of the red contacts yeah I played against him so many times I watched how crazy he would run he would chase down in and what you do obviously if you're astrophysicists or something yeah you WanNa be Books Maureen Street smarts don't matter as much I would love for my doctor to be an incredibly book smart individual say my lifelike if that guy sucks at Chequers completely just put my knee back together make sure my heart's still beating that's awesome but I think there is a vital role for the common sense humans they are they're blue these are not contact should I get some contacts people are getting context look like you're is now people used to get contacted I am what what can happen you right now what can happen right now that can help me jump over the person right in front of me and get it done that's that's all I'm trying to do I'm not planning there's no four moves ahead not my thing at all thinking of Sudoku chess I wish I knew how to play chess people try to explain to me I guess I just don't play checkers though attention span to to want to learn how to play everything from me why I just don't immediately afterwards I can't remember anything that just happened I'm just in there doing that first game they're like all right coming back from half what do you want to recap about in the first half and I was like you tweet your groin and practice that week or something and you guys you appointing a lot of quarters coverage in the red zone they just kind of eight us up but he is people's leverage and things like that what is the preparation cone into a week knowing that you've got a fucking animal on the other side it's it's terrible especially when he's a guard guards and centers do that would much rather be common sense human than somebody else that's all that's all that matters inlet especially for your he was sitting was like a master of using leverage and he was so cock strong and he didn't look like sitting probably couldn't bench three hundred pounds but he was so strong on the field of a guy just running forever in being an animal have you got a chance to see Quentin Nelson play football yet yeah he's the first person down the field no matter he looked like the dude with the nail on its head and watching like that dude how he hustled wake you could put on any play of this guy just he was the complete monster loved the dude is awesome and he ended up breaking his neck I think at some point in Detroit and wasn't able to come back too much from it but yeah he was amazing the thoughts it all works out it all works out but right now I'm just trying to get king bitch gather your Sadako player now it's a lot of thinking I have no idea how Doku works I can't just to do the blue contacts in a green white and all that shit yeah I I've never worn contacts not Kauvina Bosh probably my favorite football player you gotta you know like all right well when you every once in a while you'd face some fullbacks back when there were fullbacks well they they're kind of making a comeback but when teams used to run a lot of like lead week and remember that first step what do you think the quarterback did well I was like I think he's pretty good tonight I'm looking at highlighted me on twitter saying this guy's got a can isn't really happening at the moment digs has a question here for as Nancy I'm excited to hear it yeah I thought so are you enjoying the opposition join the conversation I also did it all he that serious and he does it every single play every game and then he's the scariest human ever that every single offensive lineman doesn't WanNa go near every fullback tries to stay away from Mikey but he just seems to be an absolute bruiser if you're a linebacker preparing for somebody that's a mall there like that who also has great finesse Joson told us that he has great finesse and a utilized like I couldn't continue to play I can never had anything like that because people were mouthpieces mouthpiece ethnic of probably given concussions out that's the don't wear a mouthpiece never know Mason Rudolph was not wearing them out oh that's another thing I wanted to say anytime anybody hey guys know we talked about the time I don't need to say anything just watch this dude he will run two hundred forty yards in one play just chasing the ball was out hit the ground it was it was so sad he's out before hits the ground but then he hits the ground in the back of his head hits the grass which is the scariest worst enough and that I don't remember any of it I don't know how people departmental is I guess the short term memory with long term I don't know that's a flaw of mine I think who I take on a lot and there's no way around him you can't run away from a guy like Quentin Nelson he gets the second level so fast and you mentioned sitting that's I'll sit in was syndergaard sure you play with guys that were like the red ones did you see that what was that do think Vanden Calvin and I talked about this during the gate conversation we played against the Lions and I was a captain I didn't I had zero zero documented concussions pat is that real life or is that just you act and tougher than than science real life I mean honestly up thirty percent of your mouth so it might have reversed might actually reverse technology this where you're forced to open your mouth which leaves your jaw a little bit more exposed rights I still think the scientists still out on that I don't know if that's that's real or not doctors I'm sure they always try to argue with me and people mouthpiece producers guys that make mouthpieces like I've whatever people say like been dinged up you know people say you've been deemed I've never had anything to wear I've had like a headache I've never blacked out I've never had deal whereas hitting me do you really think a mouthy I don't even think you could give the argument that a mouthpiece would have softened the blow it all in so to think that a mouthpiece would have helped him out no no are those the real color of your eyes that is great I think we're context piercing color is Blue Blue Blue Isos and you you knew you'd be guy on fifteen or twenty times and he was one of those dudes that just for whatever reason every time you hit him you arguing die it was never a whole lot going into those games but like all right here we go I better head button first before he gets me you're on record saying you don't think you've ever had a concussion me place flag football and I just got him one of those doesn't have the strap they don't wear helmets but they make him where mouthpieces to protect their teeth not their heads and I got him someone said something about him I saw that happened I was in the middle we're at home whatever in between kids soccer games or something we're watching boone like Oh this guy is dead like he knew how to use your leverage but golly Quinn Nelson too when he's he's that physically gifted but then he like you said he's the first one down he's chasing the ball over the place helping everybody up too scary thing man keep your mouth shut this boxers pieters get knocked out when you're trying to breathe with a mouthpiece you have to open your mouth more to breathe because the mouthpiece is in taking something on twitter about so I think I'm gonNA start getting more active on social media should as it's really I I'm not active and I don't care to be really at all but I have a tough time I've enlarged knows I can't really breathe that in my nose well classic mouth breather I am literally a classic mouth breather because my nose doesn't operate that well oh it simulates like you're you're at twenty five thousand feet absolutely not it does not it restricts your breathing a little bit in it restricts your breathing in and out boss was captain we walked out there and hit those red fucking contacts and shook his hands and I looked in the eyes is Satan House at Holy Shit look at this guy in the entire coin toss I just stared at me mouthpieces protect your teeth that's therefore they don't protect like they you can show Mila Science and say how low and your jaw bites down it it dissipates the blow throughout your head okay one of those big mouthpieces with the lip guard and it has like skulls on whatever and I surprised him with before a game couple weeks ago and it was better than Christmas for him he it it sounds it really sounds like you are like hey listen big mouthpieces actually hurting the game instead of helping the game that's how you feel well mouthpieces are a fashion statement now you know that don't work either by the way go on they absolutely do not work when you see guys warming up with them because they think they look cool and they say how have you get shot in the button it's night night which is exactly what your mouths open click that tendency stretches as far as I can go and it just shut you down keep your mouth so just strictly because he likes how it looks he doesn't care if it protects teeth or his head but he likes outlooks and that's how it is and so I mean whatever I mean mouthpiece I didn't expect to get on what it is if it's a pass he spring all over the place hey I have no idea how his knees are holding up record Ralph size band who's run seventy yards on the field is the first person there shutdown that's probably what you you're a master plus your malls made of iron look at that thing and know what mouthpieces do come back and he just turns and swims to decide it was insanity if he if he's fighting anytime in the near future he's GonNa win he's going to win that is just blink I thought this is a dry heat in blink and walked away and I was like intimidation this guy little rascals whereas fuck I honestly loved it but I think people searle dog you with me about that too but have you been real grief with big mouth records yes I am because I feel passionately about this best an boss has this thing the Boston Oh to trainer which I have it's actually pretty legit it restricts your breathing in but not out and you can work out awesome he's he's a scary scary individual yeah yeah in anyone in the crowd right he's the crowd I know all you want the mixed martial arts when is your your breathing it just doesn't make any sense luckily we haven't seen them around as much lately maybe the League the League shut down you can't wear them pre-game now or what the League did you see comed- swimming against the fucking current current a river to do that no dude come on now he right on the button mouth open yeah they argue that mouthpieces one of the reasons they do work as because it forces wants Mike all he got double knockdown and then he's laying there they cut his face masks then someone said how many a mouthpiece would have absorbed the blow and helping all this out I'm like are you did you to say that and now I have to question whether or not you genuinely hate everything else or this you're just because you're being paid by Bossard our wish I wouldn't take a dime from bossard and he's one of my heroes so how you're doing all this wwe staff working with Sam Roberts and all that how how do you how do you just jam that into your schedule well I know enough about the W so that's like if I know about stuff and it's been a very self aware self awakening here a couple of weeks for me if I know Agwu those out there they were showing up in every NFL locker I think everyone caught on there was a scam yeah it was hard to breathe I tried to biceps one day that thing on talk radio dump that out to hold on it's the big pacifier when you talk about right the Big Lake it looks like a pacifier on your mouth the big thing yeah kind of one of those things where I put my boss route not thing I just can't really breathe much and I just Kinda fucking go for Bangor Dang Dang and percents fact and that's just the way it goes can I could see it that's what could never lost pat so yeah I'd I'd say he's he's not even a human this dude is he clips doing this Bubba Papa but if you're somebody that doesn't like the McAfee which is there is people out there and you're forced to listen to me talk about shit that I don't know about boy that's everything got those big surprise that has to be incredibly difficult to breathe it's like that mass knows mass that there were like thirty thousand feet houser or whatever they weren't those she like feels good to get in there and chat about it but I enjoy the hell out of it I might be doing some more with them Aaron wrestling world without them we'll see what happens is she talking about even though people might not like the way I deliver things at least they have to say like Ali's disguise fucking right though when it comes to things I don't know about it's tough like just college for no what's happening relatively quickly because the storylines are either similar to what they were like ten years ago or I can pick up on a pretty fast that's not really a problem that's actually like a vacation for me with people have it hanging off at home with the big lip guards on top that were cool when I was started back now everything those cool back in the days back now like my son my six a lotta wrestling roads by the way they hate that and they also don't call a professional wrestling and sports entertainment which a lot of wrestling fans fucking eight so there's a lot of things at wrestling fans are kinda jaded about in Sali's outside at Indianapolis people don't give enough credit for how good he really is he never gets talked about it's always Baker Lamar Shawn Watson Pat Mahomes these are the he's taking on the fucking Amazon it looks like he's you swear reason cold Russian river rushing swimming against it and then there are through that I just mentioned are break there at the top of the list so she was Waco's Colt this year I think you're going to super bowl move bodies whenever they need to I think the coach are built for a long haul right now but everything around throughs runs through the Patriots everybody knows that everything runs his baiters yeah there's by on a fucking shit about it is very tough for people who want to have to listen to me especially I mean granted ratings are good I think they're doing better than they were last year it's fucking do I love you don't worry you'll be fine there's the boss boss rudeness lift say without them see man my future interesting businesses you in Jericho go go wrestle for Jericho's do he has I don't think I'll ever do that. quarterbacks that are going to be superstars Joe Jacobi is a young quarterback who has been very fucking good who can win a lot of games especially when you have an offensive line that can just shutdown rafts. I'm not sure about those masks those things were because they started designing ladies pain was doing barshop was doing it there's American Russell Wilson for all of his bat his cliche answers his Corny nece his super corporate operation it feels like it are the niners the best team. NFC that's a big talking point right now what do you make no I mean I I can't Crown Champs yet hoops once again when I guess I I don't know I mean it's hard to it's hard to ever count the packers Davante Adams isn't even playing right now that dude become the character you create boom thank you well said thank you. Aj those profound boase talking about pat not not that that's hilarious nobody I think when Russell has the ball he's doing incredible things right down that's the team is legit you don't think the niners are buff pivot right there I think you're GonNa win the Super Bowl Games are one in the trenches and that offense a line is legit this year I think Jacoby percent is a young superstar quarterback that's getting enough credit and I think that Defense Utah that has got to be very tough but the WWe I know about that stuff I've been a fan for twenty years so I know about it so they can just drop me in basically and I pretty much can hard to put him above Seattle right now don't you Seattle Russell Wilson just feels like no matter what the game is I think it's always going to be close I think the Seattle seahawks games are always going to be close the hawks top four teams in the NFC we will go live at number four a Jayhawk so yeah I'm not GonNa jump what was it like twelve different valves you can check onto it's like a little mouthpiece that's my mouthpiece all over where I work sometimes based on workout tells us route and so you know it's not like soft for fines purposes because they got sick everyday calling everything a belt so it's a championship or title it's no longer about in a WWe James six whatever it is releasing this thing I can respect that you call it a championship or whatever funny because last time I was on there I said he's GonNa win the belt tonight and in my ear immediately you don't say belt by it is a title or a champion the I think you're you're really really good at what you do I I've seen up close and personal how you are a man of the people what do they call it get in there and three body arrest squared circle that's right now the boy because you know what you're Oh okay tell you so you do you not call it a belt WanNa tell you can fly around and make plays out of all the way back Rigoberto Sanchez is good I think they have a team for the bottom that's GonNa win Games in December January because they can win the L. Seahawks what about you have the Saints Packers Seahawks in Niners I mean no I don't know where I would break this isn't a dump power rankings show now let's go the tower ranking we gotta go implying to Palo Alto this afternoon my life is getting hectic you and I- revolve around motivational speeches is there any way you could give me a motive every single time I come on and I know you have other people that come on here you're ball washers that are so let me do this another under the radar study that doesn't get the credit he deserves these unbelievable and their defense is legit they briefly talked about bringing some free agent signings the dismissed brothers as they call me the ones Aj and that's what you need to be able to do late in game and in the playoffs Yeah I love Jacoby percent that dude is bates who for some reason undervalued pat we do you want me to stand up patch where you want me to flex cool I'll do whatever you want that so I respect you as a human the I think if you really want some good motivational like some kind of impact there some motivational content goto the legit men the defense is fun to watch their fund throw teams fun to watch people argue now people saying oh who was who's the best team they're trying to say either defenses is playing well and drew brees didn't even in the lineup right now so yeah I mean I I liked the niners do and their defense is awesome I'm a fan of Jimmy G. I hope he's the Guy Yeah I'm saying you're a good dude that's why I'm D- even entertaining the thought of this stupid thing you want me to do which I'm not doing it but is that are super angry and yell at the crowd the whole time and just make them think they're the worst people on the planet those are my favorite motivational guys. I'm sure you love him too it's really uplifted it's cool how are you this have you become your character or was this character who you were a young kid in years continuing to be that guy I don't know yet I hope he he can lead them to a super bowl I don't know if he is yet but I think he's really good and I like him I just don't know if I can you can't sit here crowned people champs or act like they've arrived yet after five like I'll lose my bottle in thirty seconds when I put it down that things gone forever I've no idea what is the one that come out of a show I have no clue what we just talked about I'll walk right out of the do a favor you can do a favor air quotes for a a an elementary school because your cousin's mom asked you to come in there and you're GonNa do a favor and only take forty art related on the outside for Green Bay are awesome in their secondary's really really good so I never would count the packers out with Aaron's healthy The saints are are really good really thought when he just scout the crowd whoever it is like say your your motivational speaker guy gets paid seventy five K. to show up to corporations but you're gonna you're GonNa you by the people say that genuine that's fake that's always in real life I guess but on the football field you don't agree Aj you don't think he's all those things no I think sometimes national speech to really finish out this fall strong AJ first off You you're trying to you try to set me up with these stupid case the jury still out we'll see a couple of years maybe a motivational swint I'm trying to give you a compliment pat won't you sit there and accept it I don't think you do that okay one of your boys triple h get inside the ring in whatever what do they call it get inside their throat around your body around Oh yeah what is Johnny it takes Boston's a guide the bar fighting yeah the speaking like third graders and he just the first thing you do is walk down the line don't say words like a minute ages out kids but you can be in jail you you probably get dot EU suicide point out stuff and then and then the person like I'm just uh-huh I'll see you later man I can't thank you enough I think people enjoy this conversation thank you have fun men don't die appreciate your schedule is brutal but you're doing great I didn't get clipped so I don't plan on having anymore could headphones how much did Disney's pay you for GIS close oriented Louis is health is something we will definitely do moments for for sure in his victims to come on now drop that on field on the opinions of his do not reflect that of his employer that is Nick Moore auto that is demanded said that terrible terrible thing yeah okay. Aj balance for a Loses Health Oh there you go what happened he's got story add on his twitter's only pump college I'm getting more more active on my social media Hashtag movie broke just because I like to think people at home listening did we lose service or these fuckers really talking right now it's something I do but gave me like twenty five k. for that what's so funny you did them a favor do them a favor and get it done young men and then ended so ray Lewis gave you that speech ray had to now I drove in here in a Maybach I didn't even drive my buddy drives I got thirty five bowl washers around me at all time look at me I'm the best now go out there the Speaker Speaker Elementary School cinema favorite is my kids do like the movie ladies and Gentlemen Legend Aj the silence is kind of a staple of the show just to see who breaks I I want an entire forty five seconds on live radio with just complete bombers until somebody means lot you got seven kids to see your life never ends either so I think that is also impressive thank you appreciate you normally correct me there you didn't that time how many is it I don't good song do uh-huh GonNa lift your life back look at me look how awesome I am anything growing up I had nothing I didn't have I didn't have a pot to Piss in and look at me punish them to stop doing the dealer enough let's get out of here get that camera off of us when you say that Ray Lewis come yeah exactly I didn't want to be associated I feel like we told you that Mr Hawke was always an entertaining one I can't and it is hysterical I absolutely love it very thankful he stopped by the thing that I miss most well-known Rhode by the way before we get to him enough for spending that much time with us in the middle of his insane schedule I couldn't even fathom call on a high school football game right now good for him couldn't even the actual number nine I have four kids I mean we have fiber we have started five or we'd done it for nothing really I haven't I don't I'm not own your copy now on Blu Ray and digital hashtag add at toy story not a boy age they look at you businessman I know man I got screwed one or two calls that we got a chance to take your earlier today with our live show we have the the technology now take calls so people call during a live show a week aside from missing her and all the pets the number two thing behind that is Madam de us now obviously traveling and all that stuff working achieving goals here you know doing it with my friends is a lot of fun the damn thing takes like two minutes three minutes easy peasy all you did was go to Lisa dot com slash McAfee you'll get one hundred fifty dollars decision all right I guess we do fucking phone caller to hear Mac what's going on upstate New York what are we talking I always enjoy this because it brings out stories sometimes that I never would have remembered myself I enjoy hearing from folks L. 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Essay Dot com forward slash m. c. a. f. e. a hundred and fifty dollars off I think you'll you'll enjoy the etc intrigued by what the fuck we got going on because it's very stupid and other things very stupid as my life on the road has become a little bit of a pain in the three one I can't always get to him but we can record them after the live show directly afterwards and put them in a podcast I think we're going to start doing and chip it's years and years of research for the perfect mattress and it shows up in a box on your doorstep on mattresses and it's so goddamn comfortable it's really the perfect match it's innovation history that was literally archaic no more traveling will since it's only to our show I can't always get it in right 'cause we got breaks we got some guests already there there've been booked by the booker who's been doing a very good job last couple of days I have never gone to call wrong with that Hawkeye Technology that they have and I know you said it's smaller than a football field but soccer has the VR technology with his off and that's it shows up at your door and bing bang boom the most comfortable bed you ever laid on just showed up in your life if you're looking for a new bed I would the dam mattress stores laying on beds that have been laid on by a bunch of people all damn day no more trying to get up sold on whether the springs are worth the much suggests Lisa because I've gotten a chance to lay on a lot of beds this fall traveling around in a lot of towns and I missed my leesamattress every single I appreciate Mac during that but I just don't see the NFL who got upset when we asked for a little bit more cash door negotiations rather have a show and doing all that he's he's a very busy man I'm very thankful for his time and also is incredible wit he's dry sense of humor have a motherfucker now angles so we can see everything these dream scenarios that will never happen but boy be great if it did not have enough money they do I know the entire field has sensors on it the the lights there's even lights on the numbers underneath the field so you can see it up a little bit so that if there's no on there has that story add tonight all four my kids are pumped to watch woody and the rest of the gang for a Hashtag Toy story four movie night I I enjoy the thought of fixing it and putting sensors in that whole thing I think they have enough money to do so they also have enough money to buy their own stadiums and they still use tax money billionaires survey time I lay down on a damn bad knees hotels it's it's literally a craps table it's roulette it's nobody knows if the bed is GonNa be worth a single fucking not uh-huh what's up

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The Steffelbeck Murder Bordello

True Mysteries of the Pacific Northwest

04:25 min | 1 year ago

The Steffelbeck Murder Bordello

"Welcome details who goes towns to the west. I'm your host kid. Chrome today the stuff oh beck murder bordello not all towns declared ghost towns really are many definitions describe a ghost town as a once flourishing town holy holy or nearly deserted but i lean toward the definition that states that goes town asked an abandoned town one that contains visible remains. I'm drawn to those that have of the history and the town of gelinas kansas has aboard tele like none other so today i look at the so-called recall ghost town of galena kansas and it's more delo while the city was originally planted by the galena mining and smelting company and was to be we known as cornwall the city was actually known as short creek when i established because of a nearby creek was known as bonanza asia so it took on that name briefly and finally came to the name of galena in eighteen seventy seven which is named after a lead and or galina found in the area the city was part of the tri state mining area and had over thirty thousand residents after the mine closed used in the nineteen seventies. The population decreased a couple thousand and the so-called ghost town jay hawk ordinance works north west of galena built during world war two was a large ordinance plant producing ammonium nitrate after the war was privatized by its operator kenneth aldridge spencer and at one point was the world's largest producer of ammonium nitrate fertilizer in the world it would form the basis for the spencer chemical companies future which would eventually be funneled into numerous philanthropies throughout missouri and kansas the spencer family we had been in the area because of their ownership of the pittsburg and midway coal company mining operation. The plant is still in operation as the jayhawk doc fine chemicals corporation. Well there you go the town of galena like many mining towns have saloons bordellos. The galena bordeaux was operated by the stuff will back family aaronson three sons. The family live near the many miners made up the large mining district of lured miners owners to the house of ill repute and there in lays the tail moss stephanie beck and family robbed and killed dozens of clients mostly miners liners during the eighteen ninety s according to the joplin globe and other sources. Moss duffel bag was a long time owner the bordello known as gelinas bloody letty madam she also was known as nasty wilson but locals referred to her by the previous name through marriage stephanie back tucson's and her husband were charged in eighteen ninety seven with murdering frank galbraith a minor bordello client and dumping his body into a mine shaft all were convicted of various charges with the killing and moss stuff aback died in prison in nineteen o nine stephanie back led what amounted to a serial killing and robbings scheme she would have her girls discover which miners wouldn't be missed and were carrying a lot of money on their person. They would either be drug or they would get them drunk. Then lure them out aside under the pretext of having a good time then either ma's sons or the man she was living with would murder the poor minor via blow to the head with an axe the bodies would be looted offered by herself and then wrapped in canvas. Listen thrown down one of the many mine shafts where it could be thought of as a mining accident at least fifty miners were murdered in this victorian brothel before kamal was caught although her hoarded treasure was never found the murder bordello was produced here night owl sound own studio and brought to you by book savvy studio law slides press the rogue valley metaphysical library and al creek present writer's retreat. I'm kit chrome jim. Thanks for listening.

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Bizarre Murder of a Floatplane Pilot

Murder and Mystery in the Last Frontier

12:53 min | 11 months ago

Bizarre Murder of a Floatplane Pilot

"From the Wilderness of Kodiak Island Alaska this is murder and mystery in the last frontier with your host Robin Bear field in a land full of peril and vicious animals humans are the most danger would wanna kill his pilot owed area to watch brown bears catch and eat salmon the tove some brothers and William Duri hoped to cash in on this growing industry up can be stressful at times and they must depend upon their skills and commonsense every year small plane crashes make the news in Alaska Robert Feather did not have time to think about anything within seconds bullet fragments hit him in the head and killed him have a tough job but near the bottom of pilots list of concerns is the fear he will be murdered on the job after all who I imagine when pilot Robert Feather headed to work at Jayhawk air on the morning of May Fifteenth Nineteen ninety-three he did not consider he might be murdered by one of his passengers maybe he worried about the weather conditions or perhaps he was concerned about a strange noisy heard in the missile pilots are sometimes pressured by their passengers or bosses to fly in marginal weather conditions the weather might be beautiful in the morning when a pilot leaves and start a bear viewing business in the late eighties and early nineties bear the bear viewing industry in Alaska rapidly grew when tourism boomed in the state is the small airplane capital of the world and flying in Alaska is a thrilling experience where you can view spectacular scenery and Rich Remote Lakes rivers and stretches wilderness that are inaccessible by road for the commercial pilots who fly these small planes though the job vase but he knows conditions can change quickly and weather patterns often vary from one mountain pass to the next commercial pilots in Alaska on May six nineteen ninety-three and sadly I have known too many pilots who have been injured or killed in crashes pilots know their jobs can be dangerous and as if overnight a dozen airlines catering to bear viewers open their doors and Torres doled out hundreds of dollars for the experience of flying to remain Dorri agreed to supply the heavy excavating equipment while the tollefson brothers said they would supply the Labor for constructing the airstrip he tim Karlovic a pile it with Jay Hawk Air in Anchorage Flu William Drury to his property in Cottonwood Bay on May six nine bear viewing became especially popular near Lake Ileana and Lake Clark we're bears congregate in the summer to feed on spawning salmon it seemed eighteen ninety three when they arrived at jury as land they were surprised to see much of jury as machinery and equipment had either been vandal Duri a jointly owned a piece of land near Cottonwood Bay with Mark and Oliver tove sin the three men plan to build an airstrip on their property the tobin brothers and he believed the brothers vandalize the property he city feared they might return and do more damage when Trooper Charlton arrived IPM Auburn tried to relay this information Duri a but during a did not answer the radio call lock the door from the inside and his sons had to pound on the door to wake him when he finally the door he held a pistol in his hand needs engine the previous day but murder would not have crossed his mind later that afternoon when passenger fired a single shot at him Robert Feather with Jayhawk Air Left Anchorage ahead of schedule that afternoon and he arrived at Cottonwood Bay at three thirty PM brother Brian flew to Cottonwood Bay a few days later to check on their father and they found him sleeping in a small cabin near the airstrip William Hands on the Strut and began to cry allies he was experiencing psychological problems and he could not sleep he decided he needed to return to anchorage and seek help so he Liam Duri a flu from anchorage to Cottonwood Bay on the west side of Cook Inlet Between Lake Helium Not Edna south end of the Keanae peninsula afternoon Ahlberg later received a message from Jayhawk air stating a plane would arrive at Cottonwood Bay to pick up debris at approximately doc in anchorage he called Duri Son Donald and told him about the vandalism and theft of his father's equipment Donald and his opened the trailer door he said he saw men moving very fast and shot at him the bullet struck the door post of the airplane and broke apart the majority for Mars on May Sixteenth Duri again waived his Miranda rights and agreed to talk to the troopers he told the troopers he suffered from c dury had fallen asleep and when the airplane landed it woke him during a later claimed he was confused when he awoke he said he forgot to the Alaska State troopers to Aj Charlton flew to Cottonwood Bay to investigate the incident and Duri told him he had recently argued and then flew back to anchorage their father chose to stay and guards property on May Fifteenth William Duri said he really suppresses may sixteenth statement troopers he said the statement was not voluntary and he said he did not know what he was doing when he waived his Miranda Rights Radio Ron Ahlberg in the nearby village of Pedro Bay and asked Aaberg to call Jayhawk Air in Anchorage and tell them he would like to be picked up later of second degree murder but with a special verdict of guilty but mentally ill the judge sentence Duri eight fifty years in prison sized or was missing Duri remained Cottonwood Bay and when Carlos returned to anchorage he reported the theft and damage of jury as equipment order debris a pill this conviction and was granted a second trial in September nineteen ninety seven this time the jury found Duri Guilty Trooper Charlton used Duri as video camera to record the scene and then he read Duri a his this case was not a mystery William Duri admitted at the crime scene he killed Robert Feather the perpetrator was mentally ill it arrived in Cottonwood Bay at by that evening as soon as they landed Duri eight walked up to the plane with his head bowed he placed his and not a callous murderer but nevertheless this was a horrifying crime a friend of mine who has a commercial floatplane pilot said jury eight told him there had been an accidental shooting at he needed the Troopers Trooper Charlton and Ilia MNA air taxi service pilot Tim Lapore eighth were nearly identical judge Cranston reviewed the transcript of the May sixteenth interview and then denied arrays motion to suppress a statement the A psychotic disorder and it is somewhat controlled by medication if he stops taking his medication he likely will compensate and become a day a pilot in Alaska must consider the wind speed and direction the ceiling and visibility the length of his flight and his flight and explained to his sons the to- vsm brothers had damaged his property and he feared they might return Donald Brian State for a few hours oddly he did not move to suppress the statement he gave a Trooper Charlton at the scene of the crime even though the statement he made then and the statement he made on May Sixteen judge believed during a seemed fully aware of his Miranda rights and appeared to be coherent throughout the interview a May twenty first nineteen ninety three or how they will act I'm sure every Bush plane pilot had a few scary incidents with passengers but the story Shire's and said he had been having trouble sleeping and had not been functioning right he said he was very confused when he shot feather Duri a later moved in the last frontier adjusted I profile this crime and as he described the details of the murder I sensed his fear before leaving for a flight ranger to the public mental health workers who treat a jury a feared he would stop taking his medication if released from an institutional setting or the thickness of the ice pilots who have been doing this job for a while can consider all these variables in a matter of minutes pilot thirty of the fragments hitting pilot Robert Feather in the head killing him instantly d'auray claim the recoil of the rifle blast cleared his mind and he realized what a horrible mistake he had just made he said he started yelling and screaming he covered feathers face with a paper towel and the the show notes for more information on my novels and my newsletter I'll be back soon with the next episode of murder and mystery thank you for listening and please check the show notes defined references for this podcast I an author and I write Alaska Wilder of what awaited Robert Feather when he landed at Cottonwood Bay that Spring afternoon must send a quiver of fear through all pilots Duri became eligible for and applied for parole in January two thousand ten but the Department of Corrections Determined Duryea suffers from William Drury was indicted for first degree murder in nineteen ninety four at his first trial the jury convicted jury of second degree murder schedule for the day depending on where he will have to land he needs to think about behind the tide the condition of the river the rockiness of the beach and decide if the flight is doable or if it will have to wait until another time a pilot cannot as easily control who has passengers will be this mysteries. I've written four novels set in the Wilderness of Kodiak Island I also ride a monthly newsletter about murder and mystery in Alaska Jeff it called for an airplane to fly him back to anchorage and when he heard the plane he thought that thieves had returned Duri grabbed his rifle and and call on the radio for the troopers Kevin Jansen and Pedro Bay her Duri as radio call and asked if he could help relay a message Ms Predators of all from Anchorage Alaska Underwrites and tape-recorded Dureza Confession Charlton arrested Duri A and flew him back to anchorage and Dury was reinterviewed by Trooper Charlton and yeah.

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Hour 1: Zebras Gone Wild

First Take

35:25 min | 10 months ago

Hour 1: Zebras Gone Wild

"Mega is everywhere I'm cooler you're driving to a tailgate so you filled me up with icing cans pop open you panic and and if you've got cut rate Sheri- There might be a few cans in your ice so get allstate allstate where you reach mobile APP just because of an accident accident forgiveness from allstate the rest blow the whistle nothing happened if anyone was fouled that was the other guy and as a result Aaron Rodgers scores a touchdown tarazona throws that bomb that no one else in the history of football till mahomes came around could have thrown on the run across his body the whole thing touchdown note they call it back right a cumulus it's bad enough if you take chances away from Aaron Rodgers you're giving him extra chances Stephen this is real simple and it's never won Arron Rogers extra chances it's bad enough like I tell the story lot Ryan hollins matter of fact back in the day we used to work on the radio normally the story of Monday night football would be Aaron Rodgers that bad man and the packers overcoming a thirteen point deficit at Lambeau to snap a four game losing streak to the Lions and I remember saying I said Okay Ryan Aaron Rodgers I'm saying he's the Best I've ever seen let me see you do that again money's on the line he did the same thing again on the next play it's you're the gates the fact that the punt you're gonNA have to punt down nine with eight minutes the overwhelming likelihood even with Aaron Rodgers you will lose that game but instead the headline is the officiating many felt Detroit was robbed after few questionable calls went against the lions maximum to start with you is oh before I say anything else let me just say molly the blue is slamming to the point where all of us here wearing blue putting us to shame any day that blue winds up winning the game so of course you can blame the refs for that loss absolutely was a couple of things okay I think we need to take things into consideration first of all like you could always well it's this real simple your down nine there's eight minutes left nonsense penalty means in La over at my place we're watching packers playoff game you get hot takes back then Oh yeah and and and Arron Rogers does that bomb against against fair to blame the refs for Detroit's loss yes yes not taking credit rogers leave him to you I know he's a bad man but it's like you can't give emotional there was you know I feel I know you don't you don't you don't care we had a controversial one last night what's going on everybody welcome into I hate Stephen Smith Marcus Spears Max Kellerman molecule rose so I'm cool here in the city of Detroit after last night I'm going to be honest with these let's get into Detroit Not Dallas Outlet Watch all right let's get to the Detroit lions yeah couple questionable calls because obviously if you're talking about putting somebody in your hands or somebody many pivotal things that happen favor of the Green Bay packers to tell me that that's the reason the referee's calls how but let's listen we talk about the crosby right I'm not criticizing criticism but his the D I got the I got lifted Rogers just Ramada Jal who I got to give proxy genesis wanted to know if it's technically considered pajamas or loud right molly choice time there now we go take these to everybody buckle up that's going to be a fun show let's get it we don't know what would have happened what we know happen was that the lions didn't score in two red zone drives that's what we know we know that if the Lions this showed up last night reminded talk to me you must have got Patrick mahomes talking to wear them not in their face masks defensive lineman do those moves all the top I don't understand why it was called but don't tell me I'm not saying that was the right call inappropriate sidewalk pants on the color blue is slamming that's number one let me get to the football element here did you see those passes do it when you look at the Green Bay packers okay let's take into consideration Jamal Williams fourteen carries one hundred and four yards seven point four yards per carry I'm sorry where the hell would you run in in that regard you absolutely right the sticking point is the referees took a possession away from the Detroit lions even though they would have been it was the rest of the birthday my brother how you doing I'm good man are you doing you're right you know what I'm not good but you know you my man right okay is okay now you know showed us in reminded us there are levels to this and Detroit lions ain't quite there yet for see your point and I totally understand and I was talking about this morning calls have always been missed in the NFL it's been heightened because a replay because of the implementation replay we've now as fans as analysts we've had opportunities to digest these calls and say that's the Rome call that well how far away were they they were already Detroit territory they were already in a position to kick winning field goal now obviously it made a chip shot or what have you all up trying to say couldn't get the ball I'm not blaming fans I'm not blaming because the call is missed on the call is made my point is this with that particular situation when you talk about on twenty two twenty three perceive ably because Mason crosby would hit the field goal they would have had I had an opportunity to go back down the field like hearing lies the issue with that scored in those two red zone drives the game never comes to that point right the fan the call listen I am as I'm a former defensive lineman it calmed down to those two questionable calls it came down to the fact that you're damned good team Matt Patricia doing a hell of a job you you're a team to be reckoned with but it just that wasn't there to stop him right we saw wasn't there to stop Aaron Rodgers with those two big plays that are highlighted so when I look at it from that perspective I'm thinking that there were is the Arab Rogers due to scaling to the Lozad Lot have my man right yeah I understand that you're hurting and you're in a lot of pain and I would say don't start a new page for now did they make more missed the call they missed the call that resulted in them having to punt and even that doesn't guarantee you beat the packers but I don't think so when you look at they had a big game talking to one hundred twenty we get all of that but the reality of the situation is ample opportunities for the Detroit Lions put points on the board I would ask you to make up your mind is bad man on that because here's the reality are you telling me that with eight minutes left in the game at the end of the game it's right there's no guarantee that Matthew Stafford leads them down the field of the scores in a minute twenty it's more likely the packers went I'm not even talking about the arm talking out you stop Aaron Rodgers and the packers with eight minutes left in the game down nine they're going to have to punt zone the fact is the lines were out playing them throughout the game and let me out the packers I'm Aaron Rodgers packers fan to me the packers it's the world gone and that's what we wanted we wanted the opportunity to change things because they were wrong now what you enter into and this would be saying array of making a judgment call which has happened to the beginning of time and Jerry sold it you you should have opportunity look at that and say hey this is nope I'm saying don't tell me it cost them the game excuse me you got to run an attack on Josh elite rusty rushed for thirty four yards really wanted to do with those those those questionable calls all Watson's Jimmy G. Aka poured star Jimmy not talking about him late at the mall with a bunch of other that's my mind my and by the way the time of all I'm trying to say is that at the end of the day if you are the Detroit lions there are a lot of things you did all right to miss this opportunity I'm not blue the colors fly you know so I got to give whereas I'll let me just America it's actually address but I thought it was too short your cat relaxed you start right that's my man right deal here's the question will eight minutes La you try to tell me would a defense because birthday okay because you know I don't know if you noticed Aaron Rodgers loved you brother now loves me you understood say he gave me a birthday the cool without screaming because they arrived at twenty points king sloppy just looking chic in sleek it's the original untucked shirt a modern solution to an old problem with no tucking or tailoring required meant to be worn that way untucked shirts were specifically designed to be worn in untucked untuckit is the brand you've been looking for no more eh particularly as birth women that's right let's say it is true all right tell you telling me on as you a ton of money no matter your size your shape their shirts are perfect the perfect untucked length with more than fifty fit combinations untucked shirts one away from the lions and everybody would have caused concern what a winch you on is you don't score in the red zone and I can't get over there because as a defense those ten plus yards on that play the half the punt the ball and instead fresh series of downs and at Rogers March right down the field now the question then becomes com to get started they even offer free shipping and returns on all orders in the US no-cost try it on if it doesn't work you can send it back you can save twenty you're my coach now coming into meeting saying we should have had an extra position so we should have won the game which you on that but the opportunity that was taken away roll your needs like here's here's for the both the okay I understand what you're saying lock factors go into the game right and if the rest Boeing some calls on one side some of the other that's one eight percent on your first order by using my code take at checkout I'm just here trying to help you ought everybody save a dollar again the code is T. a. k. e. that's untuckit dot com Promo code take have they fabulous day you're looking live at Fans Ville a college football okay warne afraid to shout my grandma could have made that kick because that's the honest truth passionate fans down by great on tall short slim athletic guys of all ages try non in person that's the best part at one of untuckit fifty stores or go to untucked Oh you dr pepper the official drink of Fans Ville grab some today the tables have turned in the MVP Grace Ladies and gentlemen after Russell Wilson's win at Cleveland has now surpassed Patrick Mahomes with the best odds to win. Mvp He's the two favorite according to Caesar's sportsbook Wilson has the America's team in terms of the Outer Mark Outer Market teams that I thought how those markets a Roofer I liked the packers better than the lions when they play it like go pack tell you the truth Oh Utopia rivers flow with ice cold Dr Pepper television with the air smells fresh cut grass artificial turf it's about what you've been doing we understand the injury and what have you has hampered him to some degree not having Tyreek Hill up until last week oh that that factors into the equation etc etc we get all of that but in the end is really not about just that it's the combination of that and how both Russell Wilson and to show on taste but what makes fans Ville truly special are the people who call home field the type of people who tailgate before the you can look at all games by the lines a season cited by four points he's a bad and smoked meats with a radio only plays marching band and being able to read the defense is more important than being able to read off to a five one record meanwhile homes with five to two odds in his team are now foreign to after back to back losses to Indianapolis and Houston Marcus kind of year that they're having again it's not about always Patrick mahomes better like for example you might be a better quarterback Christian McCaffrey and no quarterback royalty tradition and the sweet sweet nectar of the college football guys get a taste of fans villas fall during a college football game albeit duty injury we have to do that look check this out okay this is a reaction to the fact that for the first time someone's hop them jumped them in the MVP called upon to do something that matters to all of us who are pundits who cover the sports journalists etc etc when you look at the show watson the level of great odds right and that's Russell Wilson and get it you can make a hell of a case Russell Wilson I thought the last several weeks it's mahomes one Russell Wilson two and others we're bringing up I brought up Christian McCaffrey what they've been doing since Cam Newton is going down to feed it without Cam Newton and the damn lineup because this brother has been balling out Russell Wilson Seattle off to their best thoughts listen have looked and when you look at how they've looked and the way that they've been playing along with a Christian McCaffrey is Dan pointed out yesterday when he was on the show and Andy Reid some playcalling issues Shawn McCoy Damian Williams it consisted running a football out of the backfield highs and lows Samuel Walk is going down for a little bit you're listening to the first take podcast I'm Ali Karam do you ever wonder why those traditional button looks so long in baggy and messy while that's because they were never there's something that happened with eight minutes left at Rogers it's it's possible but don't forget the possibility akers defense was stout in the L. here with US Stephen I do think it's justified that mahomes is no longer the MVP so do this I do because it's not a matter of his greatness as a talent we're GONNA sit up there say we'd be talking about them if it wasn't for Patrick Mahomes what did we have to talk about them since Patrick Mahomes is not what we're accustomed to seeing the B cut your local agent today are you in good hands not available in every state features are optional subject to terms conditions and availability define casualty insurance company and it's affiliates Northbrook Illinois at the state take odds you'd say Oh yeah lines which are very big on Monday odds and what I would ask you to do respectfully Mexican maximum Tayo was the best player on the field to the super bowl he just deserved craze right like extra bridge the best dude on one leg when it matters most not only as Patrick Mahomes mahomes who I still think the best case can be made for you know drove me crazy when terrel owens was criticized for playing on one leg in the super bowl member that I found it was even got the Andre Hopkins Will Fuller Kenny stills they can ball but there's still question marks up and down from time to time but the greatness of this show am sometimes quarterbacks and other players will do that going out there playing hurt but dude you're not the same you're you're not good enough to help your team the guy on the bench could help you more if you weren't playing that's not the position he plays he's running back he's a tailback he comes out of the backfield and catches passes he's an all purpose back for the Carolina Panthers Look what he's doing this that puts forth Lamar Jackson another do there's been balling there are too many guys that are have elevated their level of play to such a degree where ratio component to that like he's toughing it out and playing Te'o he's playing on one leg in the super bowl and he's toughing it out now it's one thing if you say yeah but you're GonNa hurt and this is why I say we just looking at numbers because we just looking at numbers we can look at Roger say excuse me the nonsense but when you look at what you do in the moment that I say they only had twenty points for all of the great things that Joe bad man was doing they had twenty points so to make point when you give him an extra position and you take it the top four or five guy and others Shawn Watson who I like a lot and other got you got real good case for Russell Wilson I want to put that aside for a second and talk about pets only thirteen the two thousand twelve we know because Russell Wilson that what he's been doing we can't ignore that does Shawn Watson he doesn't have Andy Reid is coach doesn't have tyreek hill fan but I gotta tell you what I get I get in there when you start spending the stats out because he wanted to me 'cause that's your boy he batman you get the screaming and aw you got all your kids getting closer let's going on everybody I want to hear fourteen touchdowns one interception it's fourteen touchdowns no interceptions he saw yet a free play he threw it down the field they gave him the free but then the wait a minute I got the call wrong it was like there was a foul on the field that should have been five yards and a first down so that one interception is utter nonsense Geico Geico fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on motorcycle insurance early to his team but in the NFL because what he's doing let me say this y'all fine we can go back and forth I think all three of us have valid arguments let me now I mean that's the issue and now let's look at Patrick Mahomes foot he's playing on a bad we got a bum wheel right now and he's doing for playing hurt MVP mahomes while I can't admit their pet mahomes gets a raw deal because we are comparing him to what we saw last year and those flash tips to win at the end they at least had a chance for an onside kick the first week and that was a one score game this last loss which again there was a bad call on the back foot and still putting fourteen touchdowns no interceptions and the two losses let's look at those in both cases he brought his team back to give them really lifted a team from being possibly mediocre to putting them in the playoffs without him but Christian McCaffrey is the most valuable player in the NFL right now because the worst in football house their run defense among the worst of you can't play ball control offense as Shawn Watson does with the chiefs personnel right you guys a million times have the discussion about the NBA we can literally pack the trophy up and give it the Lebron every year we think about what is this dude what about how Allen is doing nobody's talking about chick cam get his job if he comes back Christian McCaffrey right now is the most valuable player not Yasser Rain now this brother Shawn Watson you bid ask somebody he's completing sixty nine point seven percent of his passes he's got twelve also Wilson right now with worst protection worst run defense etc the Seattle Seahawks have rebuilt their defense the whole thing and I give him extra credit bill O'Brien and that offense in Houston Texas they don't last last time I checked your Jay Hawk has been used and spill homes that resulted in like the point is Mahomes Wilson is close I agree I don't take credit away from mahomes for being on a worst team she's aren't there that's just the reality of it doesn't mean he he's not playing at an MVP level here's the issue though most valuable player and I asked people this all the time and I've watched quote bargaining I still believe Saquon Barkley is the better running back but to me if you remove him from the Carolina Panthers they may be Oh and four nobody's and things happen then formed when you look at Russell Wilson that's the that's the case for me pertaining to the other guy that argue it is that Russell Wilson has coach a lot of talented accumulated and a lot of areas you look at Shawn Watson you look at the defense the way that Texas has been playing even before he got there that was a playoff team with a lot of success is not playing right we look at pet mahomes and we say the chiefs you look at this roster around him may be a five hundred team even homes is not on that team Andy Reid is the assist Shawn Watson has arrived on that scene this brother is doing thinks and starting to do things that we saw at Clemson member would Davos when you had met shop and I don't even remember Tj whoever the hell off you want to come up with we haven't had any questions stashes three interceptions at sixteen hundred plus yards throwing the football I would remind y'all will we whatever we spend he's saying about eighteen does not thrive at all without him being in this offense and look I I went to the Dan scale is a Christian McCaffrey has boarded I mean geico Presents Monster Counseling Dracula tell me how you're feeling no one understands how only these no one will even let me into their house they believe it or not a Stephen as quarterback Dak Prescott number one they should separate separate quarterback from other positions I'm telling you is there such a biased so I knock knock but they ignore me what else I look in the mirror and don't even see myself anymore if you don't a yourself clearly can you really expect others to I'm having a breakthrough it's not easy to be a vampire but with gyco it's super easy to switch and save hundreds on your car and million with the situation Maury tweeted support of Hong Kong antigovernment protesters here's Lebron's reaction yesterday we all terrance finally we've heard Lebron James on the rockets general manager Darryl Maurice Tweet that had a ripple effect around the world in case you're on clubs force in their in their via Ponta Shawn Watson Wilson in home second and third in Qbr respectively on the situation at hand and and he spoke and The so many people could have been harmed not only financially but physically the speech but at times they are revocations for the negative that can happen when you're not thinking about others only on your only thinking about yourself so I believe I don't WanNa get into a word a word or sentence a feud with Darrell Darrell more but I believe he wasn't educated on sit back and learn from the situation to happen understand that what you could tweet or could say and we always we all talk about this freedom of speech yes we all do a week to send it Max critics feel that Lebron chose to shut up and dribble on this topic what's your reaction I appreciate Lebron's point about the timing pilion dollars worth of business in China and he doesn't want to jeopardize of billion dollars I get it but you know what it's called when emotionally spiritually so just be careful what we tweet and we say and what we do even though yes we do have freedom of speech but there can be a lot of tweet supporting freedom can physically endanger our guys and the danger comes from the government itself maybe they shouldn't be over there in the first place that's a separate argument you don't make the comment on the substance although Lebron's tweeted out statements as other people have tweeted in the last twenty four hours you know the yeah it's called selling out when a billion dollars of business you don't want disturbed and I also appreciate the fact that Lebron James when you look at Nike and his movie deals like you wanted to distribute in all these things maybe you could argue has that's what it's called it's very easy to take a stand when there's low to no cost right then you can take a stand the cost is high when there's a real price to pay for taking a stand then who will stand up Mohammed Ali in this awfully if there was any consideration for the consequences and ramifications of the tweet I'm not discussing the substance others can talk about that my team in this league just went through a difficult awesome percent support Lebron James Statement here one thousand percent staying with him in terms of what he said but that doesn't mean that I ignored consistencies of Lebron James Statement in the process in other words what you said in this regard and listen to this carefully Max because case not Lebron James There's a lot to dig deep in here first of all let me say this I want but it's important to take Lebron James Words into its proper context like you did when you started off your Soliloquy Lebron James said the tweet could have waited so now you're quiet in this instance it's called selling out I understand it's a very high price and I'm not saying how I would behave him in the same circumstances I had a billion dollars in the Line Lebron James Said Daryl Morey could have waited he's right about that he basically accused Daryl Morey of not thinking negative that comes with that too

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Documentary Chronicles The Real Life 'Green Book'

Fresh Air

48:19 min | 1 year ago

Documentary Chronicles The Real Life 'Green Book'

"There's message comes from NPR sponsor Comcast. Comcast values your time. That's why you can schedule to our appointment windows, including nights and weekends that way. You can spend more time doing what you love. Comcast working to make things. Simple, easy, and awesome. From WHYY in Philadelphia. I'm Terry gross with fresh air last night. Green book when three Oscars including best picture. A new documentary tells the story of the green book, the annual travel guide published in the era of segregation that helped African Americans find safe places to eat stay shop and do business while on the road. Today, we hear from the director your ruby rich. And she says the green book was first published in nineteen thirty six by postal worker named Victor green as a guide to New York because there are places even in Harlem at the time that African Americans were not allowed to go to even the African American mecca. There was defacto. Segregation the guides. Soon expanded to include cities and towns around the country. Also rock critic, Ken Tucker reviews to Ray, Charles albums of country music that have just been reissued and John powers of us a debut novel, titled American spy. The movie green book won three Oscars last night, including best picture. We're going to talk about the new documentary the green book guide to freedom, which will be shown on the Smithsonian channel tonight. The green book was a travel guide that was first printed in nineteen thirty six in the era of segregation listing restaurants hotels shops and gas stations that would serve African Americans and that were safe for them in nineteen sixty seven following the signing of the Civil Rights Act, the green book stopped publication. Our guest is the director of the documentary, you ruber rich written. She tells the story through archival home movie footage and interviews with descendants of African Americans use the green book and the children of business owners who were listed in the guide. The film shows the challenges and dangers black travelers faced the limited options they had while on the road and the role business owners listed in the book played in the civil rights movement. You're ruby rich and is the direct. Of the documentary program at the City University of New York's graduate school of journalism, her previous films include the new black and promised land, rich and spoke to fresh Air's. Dave Davies about the green book will you ruby rich and welcome to fresh air. One of the things that makes the film. So great is footage from the ehre and interviews from people who recall this these events, how'd you gather the material well in terms of the footage. We initially went down to the national African museum of history in Washington DC, they are Smithsonian partner. And as soon as I started to see this footage. This amazing home movie footage of African Americans travelling vacationing working I wanted to tell the film through this archival footage. I really wanted to have a home movie feel to it. Because that's what the green book was about. It was about African Americans traveling for vacation. For to visit family, and what their experience was like. And also the industry the automobile industry, as we say in the film was a huge employer of African Americans helped us as we came out of the south from the great migration and get these jobs in these in the car factories, enter the middle class and the upper class. So the automobile is very significant for the African American population. Well, let's talk a little bit about kind of what conditions were like that led to the need for the green book want us to hear a little scene from the film where we hear two sisters reminiscing about traveling when they were kids. Their names are Jennifer Ivy and Karen Allen Baxter who speaks first. We would go places. And I remember the routine had been might dad would get out. I check it out. And we sat in a car, then he would come out after a few minutes and say, okay, we can go in. But Jennifer reminded me of one time where we had reservations was a hotel reservation, and when that he showed up they said all of a sudden it was no reservation. He got back in the car very quickly. And was upset was because it was late at night and dark. They sent us down the road someplace, I remember, my mother being very upset, and we ended up in this hotel or motel that was a converted barn. And I remember mommy, saying it's spelled like that almost we'll still be edited. And that's from the film, the green book a guide to freedom. Our guest is the director Uruba rich and just talk a bit about the challenges African Americans faced traveling back in those days, you know, Karen and Jennifer from New York, they traveled through New England with their family, and that instance, happened when they were traveling to New England, and I say that because it's important to understand that this was not relegated to the Jim crow south the dangers and the humiliations and the fear. We're really all over the country. And in fact, in some ways, the south was a bit easier to navigate because there are signs. So you knew exactly where you could and couldn't go whereas in the north and the west there weren't necessarily the signs but still the same the same conditions. So African Americans had to figure out where they would go where they would be able to sleep where they would be served, and as you just heard they would walk into places sometimes and would be denied. Guide. And then of course, there's the danger the potential threat of violence that met African Americans. There are places called sundown towns that are all over the country mostly in the north and the west and these were places that African Americans had to leave before the sun went down. Sometimes there are signs sometimes they rang a bell. So the workers who worked the black workers who work there knew they had to get out of the town and these were all over the country, and it was really striking. How many more sundown towns there were in the north and mid west and west than in the deep south? Why would that be you know, I think it's because the south had legal segregation? I mean, it was legal. And that's where you know, obviously with history of slavery and all that there was a system that was set up to discriminate against African Americans. And in the north and the west that system. Was not as sort of visible, even though it was still there. So I think that the sundown towns, I mean, there were you know, they were all over and that racism that was throughout the country these were specific places where African Americans were either run out of the towns for various reasons, or they just never allowed African Americans to live in that town. These are places where African Americans worked during the day but had to some. Yes. Exactly. Yep. And if you happen to be driving through some downtown without knowing it was a sundown town. Yeah. That's you want to not do that. You know, when a lot of us are on a road trip. You take for granted that when it's lunchtime. You know, you could find a restaurant or maybe you want to grab some food to eat in the car or go to a grocery store and get stuff for a picnic an African American family in this era faced a whole different challenges. They really had to think hard and prepare before they left didn't. They absolutely absolutely. You know at the screenings that we've had we've had people stand up after the screenings and talk about how they remember. You know, their mom, wrapping the fried chicken to bring on the road, and the the fruit that they would bring, and you know, and they would just drive and not stop or they knew only where to stop specific places. We had one woman say she never knew why we only went to certain places, but as she got older she knew that that was because they were using the. Book the family was using the green book and only going to the places that were designated, and they did they had to prepare for these for these long journeys. And there's the matter of using the bathroom that's hard to plan. How did people figure out how to do that? Well, a lot of times there were you know, you use the green book to figure out where you where you could do that where there were gas stations and restaurants, you had to go on the side of the road. I think that one of the things that is interesting is Rosa Parks before she was, you know, the woman that we know who refuse to give up her seat on the bus. She worked investigating harassment of African American women in the south and one of the places that African American women were most vulnerable was on public transportation or on train stations because they could not they didn't have access to the facilities and had to go in the open. Sometimes. So this is a very deep reality that African Americans lived with and a big a really big part of our experience that we don't talk about really when we talk about the black experience. You know, we have often have a very narrow lead. And looking at African American history. And I think that the green book allows us to look at so much more than one of the men in the so that when they would travel he would bring a sheet in case they needed some kind of a screener barrier. Just so plagues claims. Wow. Exactly. Exactly. So how did the grand book got started? It was created by a man named Victor green, Victor, Hugo green. I in a very good at branding called the green book, and he was a postal worker based in Harlem, and he had a Jewish friend who had a guide to places in the Catskills where Jewish families could go and have recreation and pleasure and be safe. And he thought that would be a really good idea for for African Americans. He knew that we needed such a guide. He also had a wife named alma and alma had family in Virginia. And they. They would go and they travel from New York down to Virginia to visit family. So he experienced what it was like to drive on on the segregated roads. And how did he get the information for it too? Big country. There was no internet, obviously. And that he didn't call long distance routinely. Had I one hundred he built his network. Yeah. I mean, it's pretty it's pretty incredible. Right. He did this all before computers. He was kind of the one of the original crowd. Sources he had his ad network of black postal workers. And that was one of the industries. Of course, we're African Americans could break into the postal service, and he had a network of black postal workers. Who would he would get information from? So where the black businesses where the black communities, let me know. And they also encouraged business owners to advertise in the book. So these postal workers would be out delivering mail, and they saw black businesses, and they would tell them about the green book and encourage them to advertise in it. And then a little bit later. He would always say in the green book like in the pages of the green book. He would always say, please send in your businesses. Sometimes he would target markets that he was looking for. Hey, we need more listings in Springfield, Missouri. Or or what have you? So you know, it was a a real early form of crowd sourcing. And of course, the distribution he was able to partner with Esso gas station. An Esso distributed the green book in its gas stations. Well, the that's a big deal because corporate America, we're not exactly open to, you know, black employment, certainly not black management back. Then absolutely. So S as a really interesting case of how a corporation was really trying to be on the progressive edge. We should probably destroy for younger listeners. This is the parent company of what's now Exxon. So a big oil company, right? Yes. It was standard oil then. And it was owned by Rockefeller Rockefeller was one of the owners and Rockefeller was married to a woman her last name is Spelman. They were from a family of abolitionist. Spelman was they they started the HP C, you Spelman college in Atlanta, the women's college. So there was a history of working to advance racial African American rights that Rockefeller had and he hired black chemists very earlier or SO. Did they had they marketed to the African American community? You know, they were also smart, and they knew that this was a potential customer base. So he began the nineteen thirty six when the auto industry was booming and a lot of African Americans got jobs and could afford cars were traveling more. How did he market it? I guess the gas stations were a good way yet that's gas stations. He eventually printed around fifteen thousand copies and somebody actually got up at one of my screenings too and said, you know, what it's also important to remember that not everybody bought a copy, they would share a copy. So they would pass it to their neighbor to their family member who is traveling. You know, who's about to take a road trip? And I think it was word of mouth and the businesses had had them as well. And I think it became the distributed fifteen thousand copies because of the SO connection that really gave it a visibility that I think other travel guides didn't necessarily have. Because there were there were some other black travel guides to but the green book was the one that was the most well-known. So it really wasn't nationwide. It wasn't primarily in the Jim crow south now it was nationwide. I mean, Victor green started in New York. He started with New York listings because there are places even in Harlem at the time that African Americans were not allowed to go to even in the African American mecca. There was segregation defacto segregation. So he started to with New York listings, and then soon it went all over the country, really by the second or third addition. And then he was all over the world by the end he had incorporated Europe. Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean. And I think it's also important to to know too that he started it as it was called the negro motorist guide and then really by the early nineteen forties. He incorporated, the negro motorist guide to travel and vacation. So that's another part of it too. That it was the guide helped African Americans go to and find places where they can have AK shin and leisure and recreation, so safety was a big part of it, obviously. But this pursuit of leisure and vacation was also a part of it. I wanted to talk about some of those resorts. But I what other kinds of businesses were it besides hotels and restaurants gas stations were listed clubs liquor stores resorts beauty shops tailors in the early ones their doctor's office, and and hospitals. I mean because. And that just goes to show, you a someone says in the film, the the the breath of businesses and services that African Americans were locked out of at the time. Auto repair could be a big deal. If you're on the road to I guess, absolutely. Yeah. If your car breaks down, we can all not Alvis know how to change a tire on the road. So auto repair and gas stations were definitely a big part of the green book besides places to stop and eat and stay Victor green started advertising resorts tell us about a couple of. Yeah. Very early on the African American vacation resorts started to be listed in the book, and one of the places that we profile in the film is Idyllwild in northwest. Michigan Idyllwild was one of the biggest black resorts in the country. It had the said there were you know, an ad during its heyday in the early fifties. Twenty five thousand people coming up to Idyllwild, and it's such a fascinating place. It was developed. It started being developed in nineteen ten so really really early on. On African American middle and upper class were coming to this coming to buy lots and build houses. One of the early developers was a of the first African American surgeon at the university of Chicago who who started buying plots there African American developers real estate owners. So it really allows us to see to the how the African American middle and upper class have always been a part of this country as well. And they had amazing entertainers who were there. Sarah von Louis Armstrong. Diane, Carol, all the detainers would come to Idyllwild, and it was a safe haven. That's what how everybody described it. It was a safe haven where African Americans could go and go into the lake and own property and have friends and reunite and really have a community. And it's still there. I'd awhile to still still there. They are folks who. Are trying to redevelop some of the buildings who bought property there. They have events there. It's really a beautiful place, and there are other ones too. There was American beach in Florida Highland beach in Maryland Murray's dude ranch in California, Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts. I mean, they're these African American resort vacation resorts were all over the country. What are the other interesting things about the film is that you note, how many businesses that were advertised in the green book were owned by African American women as we were developing the film, and finding Mistry's the women owners became a real part of what we were finding a real part of the, you know, how we we were telling the story and one point we looked in the green book as they're all online. And there were just tons of these advertisements that women had sent in women business owners had sent in that. It's one of the backbones of our community African American women, and we have always been entrepreneurial and had that spirit of business creation. I think even today African American women are the largest fastest growing number of of entrepreneurs. So you know, they owned restaurants and beauties powers Torres homes, and they're all through the book, and it's really a wonderful way to bring that history through the green book an of some of them are verse while businesses, but some of these women were really like major business leaders in their communities, you tell talk about a woman named Alberta Ellis and Springfield, Missouri tells about her. Yeah, she was amazing. I wish I I I had known her, but we talked to Albert his grandchildren and Alburto owned Alberta's, motel in Springfield, Missouri. And she at one point she was one of the only listings in. Springfield. She started with a snack shop, and then she was able to buy. I think the local hospital the land for the local hospital had closed the low cost close and she bought that property showed a say. Exactly. And and then bought that and created Albert 'as motel and Albert 'as. I mean, everybody came through upper to talk about James Brown coming through and all the singers. And she was really a woman about town. She had her own money. She was independent. She had the family working. They're working the motel. It was a real thing. And and unfortunately, it doesn't it's not still standing, but her grandchildren have really brought her story and kept her story alive. We're listening to the interview fresh Air's Dave Davies recorded with your ruby rich and director of the new documentary the green book, which will be shown tonight on the Smithsonian channel the documentary is about the travel guide for African Americans. That's also referred to in the title of the feature film green book, which won the Oscar for best picture last night. After a break. We'll hear more of the interview Ken Tucker will review a reissue of to Ray Charles. In western albums, and John powers will review a spy novel about an African American woman working as an FBI agent during the Cold War. I'm Terry gross. And this is fresh air support for this NPR podcast and the following message. Come from Mercedes Benz offering the new A-Class with M B U X Mercedes-Benz user experience with natural voice recognition. It's a highly advanced interface that learns adjusts to your own individual manner of speaking control, climate and lighting or even find a local coffee shop all with simple voice commands, it's all new thinking for an all new class of Mercedes. Learn more about M B, U X and the Mercedes Benz a class at B USA dot com. Let's get back to the interview Dave Davies recorded with filmmaker your ruby rich, and what role did the business owners that were in the green book play in the civil rights movement. There were some interesting stories weren't there. Yeah. You know? I keep saying we we've seen the footage of, you know, civil rights footage of marches and hoses being, you know, put upon African-Americans African-Americans fighting back, but who pays for for the the the movement who movements costs money and the green book lists one of the places the gas in motel in Birmingham, Alabama whose owner is a man named a g Gaston AG gas in was one of the most successful black business people up until that time, multimillionaire, he had many different businesses. And one of those was the gas in motel and the gas in motel was one of the headquarters where Martin Luther King, Dr Martin Luther King. Fought the Birmingham campaign and with the Birmingham campaign was an effort to desegregate the businesses downtown and Birmingham was policed. By a notorious racist sheriff who had a lot of power in the town bull, Connor. So the photo footage that we've you know that we found show Martin Luther King at the motel with Dr Reverend Abernathy a really orchestrating this campaign, and a g Gaston was the owner. Let them stay for free and also gave money I'm even though he disagreed. He was more conservative and he disagreed with a confrontational approach initially. So he, and Dr king would kind of go at it about what's the right way forward to fight, you know, to fight for civil rights, but he's a really unsung hero of the movement. And so it was really wonderful to be able to talk to his niece. Carol Jenkins who is an esteemed reporter in her own, right? About that history. After say one thing that made this part of the story, really fascinating. Is you know, when when movements for change occur years later, we know kind of the outcome, and it all seems predetermined but back then there were these real debates. I mean, how how hard can you push? How far do you go and potentially alienating other supporters and king was pushing harder. Gaston was an established businessman, and so I'll king was pushing action on the street Gaston headlines of communication to the department store owners and. Did they work together? Did they I mean how did that? Was it an alliance was it in what was the relationship? I think it was an alliance and also a given give and take. So there are things I know that king did that gas in did not support one of those was the children's March during that campaign. They had all the students come out and Martin gas and thought that was a bad idea. And there was violence around that and gas didn't want the children was worried about the the children being attacked, but also to gas in bailed king out of jail. He let them stay for free. And he does talk about how he realized that there needed to be a more confrontational approach when he saw the hoses on the people in the park, and you know, the the strength of the hoses literally making someone barrel down the the sidewalk. And he knew that things had to change, and that confrontation was going to you know, it was the only way to attack this problem of those amazing footage. I think it's in the parking lot, maybe of the Yeston motel in Birmingham in which Gaston himself is announcing an agreement to integrate some of the the shopping areas. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. So they did win in that they had an agreement with the business owners for to integrate the the downtown now, of course, right after that riots and violence kind of blew up all over the country. So, you know, there was progress made in this particular moment, but it's certainly didn't solve the problem of what was happening nationally. We were in the midst of the the heat of the movement the green book was published over like a thirty year span. But I'm curious whether the copy in the book addressed issues of racism in. Criminalization and discrimination. Or did it simply accept it? As a fact of life in say, this is how we're going to get around. It wasn't until the later additions where you had where you had the book addressing the conditions were in one of the later copies in the sixties. It says you open it up, and it says, no your rights, and it had, you know, the places the civil rights laws that were pass on a state level in every state, but it was not a political necessarily a political book. Remember how it was being distributed as being distributed by a white owned business? So it was wasn't going to be too political in in in its pages. But it did have that business being the standard oil company at its go. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I would imagine that there's certain, you know, he knew what he had to do in order to get wide distribution. But later in the later in its pages at did have more acknowledgement of what was going on. And. And the fight for for civil rights that was happening in the country were the white owned businesses advertising in the book. Also. Yes, there were there were white owned businesses. I don't know if they advertise didn't necessarily see any advertisements in terms of like pictures. I do remember seeing in one one Chinese owned business that advertise in the book. I I remember that. So there were there were some white owned businesses and other other races as well who owned businesses in the book? So the green book Seuss's publication in nineteen sixty seven is that right? That's right. Nineteen sixty seven is the last year. It's published right on the ARGUS that obviously has to do with advances in the civil rights movement and the end of legal segregation at what did that mean for all these businesses that were, you know, the offer these services over the decades, it's kind of the unintended consequences of desegregation. I mean, when the when we had segregation, we also had many businesses that served the African American community, and that we went to as African Americans, obviously with the end of the passage of the Civil Rights Act that ended legal segregation, the businesses opened up, and that meant that African Americans could now go to the Holiday Inn, not just the gas in motel for example. And it also meant that there was competition for those African American dollars and with that competition, you also need money in or. Order to to have your place, meet certain standards, or to have it, you know, be able to compete against the Holiday Inn, or what have you and that was a challenge for black businesses. You know, we had these businesses and we're entrepreneurs, but we didn't necessarily have the economic support from the banks, for example that could help us maintain these businesses. So what you find is that after the passage of the Civil Rights Act. Many of these businesses started to close reut on there's plenty of footage in the film of parking, lots litter overgrown and buildings, you know, in disarray about a third of them still standing, right? That's right about a third. Yeah. Is there an effort to preserve or revive these businesses? Yeah. There is in some cases. One of the most exciting cases is the gas in motel where the national historic trust made the Gaston designated the Gaston a historical landmark and is in the process. Assess of renovating or we'll begin renovating the motel for reuse. So that's a really big effort. That was helped by the fact that it was that President Obama named it a historical landmark and places like Idyllwild. There's definitely an effort to get African Americans and not just African-Americans, but people to buy land they're to renovate to hold on to that history. It's more of a, you know, an anon- unofficial effort. But that those efforts still are going on your film comes out the same year as the feature film green book, darling Vigo Mortenson, and but her Salah Ali based on the story of Tony Valla longer driving. Don, Shirley, the African American pianist around the south have you seen the green book movie the? Yeah. Yeah. And your thought before I saw it. I'd definitely had kept up with the the sort of criticism. It was getting around. Of course, it's winning a lot of awards, but the criticism it was getting from the family of Dr Shirley that this was a story told by the white driver's perspective. And that's certainly the case. It's not really it's definitely through a certain lens. That's the white drivers lens on. But in terms of the green book, the thing that I found frustrating is that it only shows places that they go to, you know, through the green book as being really as dumps as really not nice places. And that's not the case there were so many of you know, there are more than ninety five hundred listings in the book over the years and places like the gas in which was considered the finest negro motel in the country. So that was frustrating to see that portrayal of the green book, and the film, and the other thing is that they only used it. The only picked up the green book when they were in the south and that plays into the mythology that this was you know, racism was something that was only in the south. So those are my two big criticisms in terms of how the green book was portrayed. Will you ruby rich, and it's been great. Thanks so much for speaking with us. It's been a pleasure. Thank you so much for having me, you ruby rich and directed the new documentary the green book guide to freedom. The film will be shown tonight on the Smithsonian channel. And we'll also be streaming her interview with fresh Air's Dave Davies was recorded last week. The documentary is not to be confused with the feature film green book, which won the Oscar for best picture last night. Coming up, Ken Tucker reviews. The reissue of to Ray Charles albums of country music songs. This is fresh air support for this NPR podcast and the following message. Come from the pediatric endocrinology and diabetes program at Stanford. Children's health a nationally recognized program with a long tradition of providing quality clinical care across a broad range of disorders and staying on the cutting edge of research in the field to provide the very best care for patients. Learn more at Stanford children's dot org. In nineteen sixty two Ray Charles released two albums that became surprise hits. Modern sounds in country and western music volumes. One and two at the time. Few popular black artists had released collections of country music songs. Now, the two albums have been released in a single collection. Record Ken Tucker has a review. Makes no difference. Now. What kind of live bait hands? Get along without you. Now. It's playing see. By nineteen sixty two. Rachel's had fused rhythm and blues and gospel in an artfully gritty way that came to be called soul music. He'd already demonstrated his interest in jazz, but few of his admirers foresaw where he'd next turned his restless ambition Charles had moved from Atlantic records to ABC paramount records in an effort to gain greater control over his career. Then you say. Spee. Thank you know. New dog Nov. No, you you don't know me which Ray Charles would have known as a top ten hit for Eddy. Arnold in nineteen fifty six. The story goes that Charles called ABC producer, sid feller and asked him to compile a list of recent country hits from this list. Charles took about two dozen and cut his interpretations of them over the course of two recording sessions one in New York City and one in Hollywood in general, the upbeat numbers were recorded with tight little band and Ray Charles backup singers, the relents the ballots were recorded with a string section led by arranger Marty page, plus some studio backup focus you can hear the smoothness applied to the latter. Material in a song such as you win again written by arguably the greatest country songwriter, Hank Williams. News. Oh. That you thin. Yes. Shouldn't he? Jess can't go. Twin in. Fish. I'd like you to listen now to Hank Williams own recording that song because it illustrates a problem. I used to have with Ray Charles version of country music. Oh. That you see. See a running around. That. Shoot leave. But. Just. You win again. Live. You can hear the intentional rawness in Hank Williams version to be sure Rachel's is owned vocal style. His remarkably expressive roar has its own kind of rough passion. But when I first heard Ray Charles's versions of country music when I was a teenager. I scorn them I found his interpretations, mawkish and the arrangements fussy. Like, so many firm opinions formulated in adolescence, this was of course, idiotic. I was too young to wedded to a false notion of authenticity to hear the mature, beauty and passion that rippled through so much of this music. I did. Live in. Some. Use this to say. So i'll. Those has the. That version of Don Gibson's, I can't stop loving you hit number one for Charles and help turn modern sounds in country and western music into a major pop hit the album became ABC's first million seller. Elated the record label released volume to just six months later, and it too was a smash. Take these from heart and. You've grown cold and no longer. Me. Oh. In us gone, but the on Langa. Jay hawk. Chick peas. From like, so many pop culture revolutions conceived by African American artists Ray, Charles venture into country was initially perceived condescendingly as a novelty, my how interesting assault singer tackling Hank Williams, but as was clear to anyone with an open mind in ears. What Ray Charles was doing was seizing country music and extending its reach as American music something every citizen could claim as his or her own as such these two albums now stand as great democratic gestures whose beauty remains on him. D- Kentucky reviewed the reissue. Ray Charles modern sounds and country and western music volumes. One into you, MS. When. Been. These. In my law. My eyes. After we take a short break. John powers will review a spine awful about an African American female F B I agent during the Cold War. This is fresh air support for this NPR podcast and the following message. Come from rackets in one of the largest member base loyalty programs in the US, offering members cashback on purchases at Amazon EBay Sephora groupon. And more rockets gets paid a commission from its retail partners and shares it with its members in the form of cashback. Members can earn up to forty percent cashback it over twenty five hundred stores more at rackets in dot com. The new thriller. American spy by first-time, novelist. Lauren Wilkinson tells the story of female African American agent in the FBI who gets involved in Cold War operation in west Africa, are critical large John power says that Wilkinson is a real talent whose new book takes us places. We haven't been about halfway through John Licari as tinker tailor soldier spy. It's wise old hero. George smiley is discussing inherent paradox of the cover stories that spies adopt the more identities. A man has mighty says the more the express the person they conceal this fans of identity with its many concealments in revelations is central to American spy an excitingly sharp debut novel by the talented newcomer, Lauren Wilkinson, spanning three decades and leapfrogging from New York to the Carribean to the west African nation of burkina-fasso. This literary thriller. Leads us into unfamiliar territory, it portrays a little known slice of American interventionism. And it shows us the workings of the intelligence community through fresh eyes. Those of an African American woman. The book's heroine and narrator is Marie Mitchell. A one time FBI agent who's tail like, so many spy yarns begins with an action sequence and intruder breaks into her Connecticut home to murder with three young twin sons in tow. She flees to her mother's home in Martinique and from there. This smart contradictory woman begins reading a letter to her sons expanding how she became a target centering on to keep periods of her life. This letter is the book we're reading we follow him Reese, childhood in sixties New York, which he worships her larger than life sister. A wannabe secret agent who later dies under mysterious circumstances. And we follow Marie again in the nineteen eighties. When she's become an ambitious, but frustrated F B I agent in the New York bureau doing small time work. She doesn't believe in. She gets niches to spill info on a harmless pan African group that the feds think is radical. Things pick up when Marie is approached by a slippery CIA man named Ross. He recruiter for an undercover mission involving the Marxist leader of burkina-fasso Thomas Kara, a real life. Historical figure who was known as the chair Guevara of Africa sent Kara is coming to New York to address the UN and marines mission is to cozy up to the radical. She does. And as she begins falling into the charismatic sin. Cars spell Ross censored burkina-fasso for a secret operation whose goal is something he won't tell her, and I won't tell you yet rest assured that American spy will not only keep you turning the pages. It will do much more than that Wilkinson steps thriller in a complicated awareness of huge thorny themes, race, Cold War, morality, the politics of our intelligence services and the ease with which we can become complicit with deeds. We actually whore. Marie lives in a world in which densities are fluid light skin blacks pass for white colleagues pass for friends traders pass for analyze intelligence agents pass for defenders of liberty Marie herself has many identities starting from the fact that she's a black woman trying to make it in a society run by white men, which means as replacement father tells her that she's already living the double life of a spy it's easier. He says if they think you're one of them small wonder that Marie finds herself inspired by sun Kara, a man who says and acts on what he truly believes all of this has gotten American spy compared to the Carre. No, it's not as elegantly tooled as the master's finest the historical background, sometimes gets a bit sticky Wilkinson earns the comparison, let Licari she knows that intelligence agencies are run by individuals protecting their own interests. Which Maria case means the famously white white men of the FBI in the. Guy who looked down on black agents doubly, so a black woman and just as Lakori never tires of showing the ruthlessness of the British ruling elite. So Marie reminds us of America's own dark practices be at the FBI's leading role in the murder of Black Panther. Fred Hampton, or the C I as leading role in the toppling and murder of popular foreign leaders. Our government didn't like if you're at all romantic about American intelligence agencies Wilkinson will make you wonder if you should be in recounting her life as an American spy Marie once or stunts to both understand what she did. And to learn from it, and what exactly should they and we learn from an anticommunist mother drawn to a Marxist revolutionary, a black woman who served a white power structure that she knew kept her down. The simple answer is that. There are no simple answers. No moral absolutes in politics or in life. If you divide the world into the damned in the. Saved. Marie tells us you've missed the point of her story. Gone powers reviewed the new novel. American spy by Lauren Wilkinson tomorrow on fresh air. My guest will be Pamela Adlon her FX comedy series better things begin season three this week. She plays a character. Who like herself is the single mother of three who's also helping take care of her aging mother while trying to keep up her career as an actor. It's the first season without the input of the series co creator Louis CK add on severed ties after he admitted to his sexual misconduct. A hope you can join us. Fresh Air's executive producer is Danny Miller. Our technical director and engineer as Bentham our associate producer of digital media is Molly seavy nesper. Roberta shorrock directs the show. I'm Terry gross.

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"Gray and Marcus on the imbalance history of rock and roll anybody. We have a very special guest today. A man I've known a long longtime and it's true you can't lie Paul. I'm talking about my buddy neander Paul Paul Marshall part of the market and the Interpol morning show on on KS Election Phoenix. Hey Man I am well for those that need a little breath. Refresher Course Ray at one point offered me an exorbitant fee to knockout couch Jesse camp and a bar one night all ready to do it was already too and he walked in with his representative who happened to be one of our closest friend and scuttled but I remember Ray and another person who shall remain nameless several hundred dollars on the end of the bar if I go up in a cold talk yet the faith it is one of my life biggest regrets never having done home. I Got Paul. That's classic that's out there. That is is going to have to know. Sure hope so as twenty years ago. Wasn't it longer than that. But yeah well while you've never been shy about revealing things and or your feelings or opinions on things and When it came to the Rock Hall Class at Twenty Twenty any you posted something on social media and you know Marcus Goldman my buddy marcus in the dark as we Certainly do we chat like girlfriends on social media and in texting and stuff about all this stuff all day about the podcast and we both saw your post on your neanderthal page at the ram the same time and started saying we got a call. Paul get them on to talk about this. I think we want to run through your original statement if we have time for that to kind of set things up for people so they know what we're talking about they know we're talking about the imbalance history of rock and roll in. It is always brought to you by crooked. I bere- in the heart of Hafbro. Paul if you have come to town and Philly sometime. We're going to go there. You'RE GONNA fall in love with bruise there a crooked eye so if they serve beer. I'm in I know it's one of the things I love about it. Really good beer in your statement you said today. I declared the Rocker Hall of fame as relevant today have been asked to elaborate. I receive some questions and wanted to share the response here and you said to the in the post. Here's what I told. The Questioner Jenner is the hall of Famer Relevance based upon. And you said who has not been inducted and you said yes. Yeah you want to elaborate a little bit on the things that are on the top of your mind. Look first and foremost. I don't want to bad mouth. Any of the inductees. No they did nothing wrong. I'll be picking at what they do. And somebody voters resented mortals and. I think that's great but I was thinking sort of obnoxious that the Rock Hall of fame would put a band in or an artist. In without whom aband- they overlooked having having existed. This band wouldn't exist for example. Brian can't put nine inch nails into the rock and Roll Hall of Fame Without First Inducting Gibo and craft work to ban Dan that without whom Trent redner hadn't heard he would never have bought his first computer and realize you could make music with irritates me about the Rock Hall of fame that day. Inductive van that are pioneers that invented and popularized a circle of the Caen mortality. That's musically mortality. If you're banned invent a a form of music or your singular in what you do and music has different after your band appeared on the scene can yes you are hall of Famer will you can put the MC five in that boat. They were up for this year to. You're getting into who has been inducted in not inducted and there's somebody who did exactly what you're talking about the empty five in the Kingston a coup invented punk rock. So why aren't they add right. It makes no sense absolutely makes no sense and the MC five with the first American punk rock band if it worked for the MC five then the ramones don't exist as my friend she though Koto this when it came to Punk Rock America fired first so there you go yeah no the stooges in the MC and how long did it take the students to get in long-term longtime and that's where when when the original question was is irrelevant on the Rock Hall of fame based upon those that haven't been inducted absolutely because they have ignored pioneers. They have ignored artists that without whom existing music would be where it is today. AAC Me there is music before this artist and music after the artists and music after this artist is different based upon the appearance of this artist. And not the hall of Famer. That's immortal mortgage hard to argue a case against that man and argue with that at all now a couple years ago. You made a long post about the nominees whether you thought they might get Dr Not. It was the year that sister Rosetta Tharp was nominated and inducted and at that point. I think you had said you weren't really sure. But she's quite a pioneer ear. I'd heard about her about fifteen years ago for the first time saw video on Youtube and was blown away by her guitar playing then I was reading some stuff about her and Elvis's listen. Guitar Player said that without people like sister Rosetta tharp. I wouldn't be here today so she ended up being one of those big time. Pioneers who sort of lived in obscurity. DNA took her a long time to get in and women have been treated very poorly as far as getting into the rock and Roll Hall of fame. I couldn't agree more now. The thing with was that a thought and this is a great example of contradiction. Because I didn't know enough about her to say yeah okay. He's in the Rock Hall of fame. He deserves to be in the Rock Hall of fame. One of the great things things at the rock and Roll Hall of fame has an opportunity to do is to educate and to draw awareness and do bring forth those pioneer to make the public aware that these people existed listed. And you're right sister. Rosetta Dr Arguably one of the greatest. If not the greatest female guitar player that has lived and yet we didn't know because back then in the fifties and fifty. Let's face it not only. Is it the sex industry. It's still a racist industry. Why Chuck various not acknowledged as the reigning King of rock and roll because nobody in America was ready to give the crown around to an African American back then can argue with that either so so Rosetta tharp gets overlooked and by the way that chain of overlooked female L. Stars continues with the exclusion of Benetton so far so far north happened? I don't know she was all over the radio during our younger years man. She was so so all over the radio with her albums her songs and they weren't just one or two songs from each album. You would hear on the rock and roll rick the AOR stations four five five six songs deep on her albums that they were deep. They were deep song thing but hell is for children. Anybody else about outside of uncle salty from aerosmith. I don't think I remember another song about child abuse not like that being a popular song. A popular song don't happen. It's not just a pop dr not to somebody who was a popular figure in American culture but also was writing some cheap stuff. Some things that not only did men knocked right about women wouldn't even touch the and yet they inducted mcdonagh. Her first opportunity. Madonna doesn't exist. If Benetton doesn't kick that you also talked in your Post about the question of is it about who has been inducted adopted and you said no because a lot of people WANNA pick You know this one should Nagai in and Y you're talking about a line lineage and chronology the you know the people who benefited from the pioneer are in and yet the person who was the pioneer. The five are not. So it's not about who's been inducted in your view. Because you see how well look and I think primarily this is a semantic argument with me and that is when people like Madonna Madonna get inducted but people like Pat Benner tar get ignored and they call it the rock and Roll Hall of fame. Let's just get this out of the way right now. Rock and roll is a trademark. It's an instantly identifiable faial brand name. It's Kinda like when you hear somebody say. Give me a coke. They're not talking about coca-cola talking about the flavor rock and roll is all encompassing when it comes to music it's a wide breadth music and there's a huge difference between Brenda Lee and Metallica. And yet they're both considered rock and roll. So when somebody like Madonna who isn't traditionally considered rock and roll is inductive but somebody like Pat. Ben Atar who is the epitome of the definition is ignored. It's not about that artist. Pat Ben Atar big gap Madonna so when the business artists that would be the big argument. This time around will be the notorious who's the next logical evolution from screaming Jay Hawk and who suck up over the week from the part two quick them Brooklyn streets fuck all that switch with them and then she the counted ninety five on the wings. Mac brought on by we. We got screaming. Jay Hawkins we got Little Richard. We got Chuck Berry. We got sly stone. We got Prince we got. They'll be digging. We're GONNA get at some point. We may get Bruno Mark. You know what I mean like. There's an evolution that happens. So the idea that the rock and Roll Hall of fame is inducting traditionally non rock artists. Look there's a huge difference between Carl all perkins and the doors. But they're both rock and roll MANDIC argument. I think it's a weak argument. Man All this gabbing with Paul Marcus. I feel like I need a beer. Yeah Yeah Palsy blasted to rid great opinions. But I'm dry. There's only one place to go when I'm dry KRILL. I know when I'm thirsty. I head to the heart of Hapur and go see my friends at crooked eye brewery. I want to thank Paul Paul and the whole gang for their support for our podcast. It's been great. Yeah when you WANNA taste the freshest most creative brews in the Buck Mont you go to crooked Eye at York road and Montgomery right there. The Heart Hafbro pouring the cure for what ails you. Since two thousand fourteen the crooked eye crew makes every single night fund. Hey you can keep up with a live entertainment on the breweries facebook page. That's the best way we know what's happening there including their free Tuesday nights blues jam which is taken off the home brewers club and my partner in crime raise vinyl nights which are the third when Thursday of the month as brewers me and live music. All the time including the crooked eye band is always good fun to be had a new friend to be. He made a crooked eye and we wanNA thank them as always for their support of what we do on this crazy imbalanced podcast. When you need a fresh tasty brew head to Hap- Borough make it crooked? I we are refresh. So let's get back to it with the Andhra Paul talking about the hall on the Balanced History of rock and roll. You also mentioned the criteria. I used to induct in. You said it's a secret for a reason. It's not random nor is it merit based. I think it's the most nebulous part of of the formula is the criteria because nobody seems to know in. It's because you have a whole theory on this which I tend to agree with because it's the guys who got together to form the rock and Roll Hall of Fame Club Have Control of all of it pretty much right. Yeah and I don't want to name drop into a rock and Roll Hall of Famer a reluctant rock rock and Roll Hall of Famer from one of America's greatest rock band and they're from in New York City and there were a lot of makeup in their early years. You know who I'm talking about that to me during an interview imagine if you had trademarked the name rock and Roll Hall of Fame You could be the rock and Roll Hall of fame. And that's essentially what happened here. Was John Winner. And and a couple of guys from rolling stone. Who are one of the more elitist music magazine on the face of the earth? Remember rolling stone historically bad mouth every led Zeppelin record when they came up rolling stone. Stone is an elitist group of in the know click that they believe that bans like television and the talking heads and and that might be down. You think they believe that those band and Lou Reed are the be all end all of the coolest thing about rock when you see the movie almost famous get that great Characterization of Lesser Bang talking about how these guys are ruining rock and roll. We've talking about Rolling Stone Paul. We Love Lester bangs on the podcast. Great example die. He understands that the opinion of the elite the opinion of a small group of People's necessarily represent everybody. But when you say rock and Roll Hall of fame somewhere along the line the word rock and Roll Hall of fame put together lend credibility credibility. There is no real credibility to just a bunch of people who thought. Hey these are people. We want to immortalize now the undeniable undeniable. Unless you're the rock and Roll Hall of fame it's easy to say Chuck Berry's Hall of Famer. It's easy to say led Zeppelin famer. It's easy to say. But here's a great example. How the fuck is an ozzy? Osbourne a rock and Roll Hall of Famer America Solo Artist because he bit the head off of the bat and he's scares people and he is the single largest recording artists in hard lock history. He's the Elvis of hard rock and heavy metal. Young is the epicenter of what hard rock in that form of music is and I'm not talking about it's worked with Black Sabbath. It can be argued that odd to work is more important and relevant than black Sabbath work without a doubt remember. All of the controversy was suicide solution. and Mr Crowley and all of that and then I was reading a book and Zach. Wow there's somebody said that. Ozzy saw the picture of Alister Crowley and was like who's that hat and he's like. Oh that's Alister Crowley and he's like. Oh that's what he looks like. Maybe he didn't. He was bald with a beard or something like that and I think it was in the latest John. Wieder hornbook. But that's a perfect perfect example of what we're talking about. Guys the fact that Ozzy as a solo artist isn't it in there. You know I know that there are people who were in two and three ways and that's great great for what they've done but why not acknowledge a man who's one of the great voices in rock has been there through it all including the most recent chapter. Let me get the straight Eric. Clapton gets into the rock and Roll Hall of fame as a member of Delaney and Bonnie's band but The osbournes not a rock and Roll Hall of Famer because this elitist group of people who have just just chosen who've decided to decree upon the chosen ones. This immortality. Don't like Ozzy they don't like Judas or or bad company to which is Orange Theri manilow or the guy wrote the the guy in American bandstand and he's not in the rock and Roll Hall of Fame Oats to get listen. We're on the Pantheon podcast network and there's actually A podcast that. That's what they talk about. It's called who cares about the Rock Hall and people who wanted to hear more about other people's opinions opinions about all this stuff even some of the people who are inside that committee to good podcast. Check out here on Pantheon. We're hanging with neander Paul on the imbalance history of rock and roll. Oh He's on the morning. Show a castle phoenix with the market. Neanderthal is that crazy every day you and market and things started for for Phoenix and It beats working for a living. You guys are in Philadelphia. I can tell you I never have to shovel my walkway in three in the morning. And and you know look. I've been doing this for thirty three thirty four years and it's a good way to make a living. Look anybody and I've said this to you before Ray and I know some people will argue but anybody. That's in radio. It was a failed musician. This is the second best job in the world next actually making music people. Ask Me Paul and I tell them the only thing I can plays records. Yeah I mean I if I had any the musical talent I certainly would have made it when it was an opportunity but then nineteen ninety-one happened and Nirvana got credit for kicking. Open the door that Jane's addiction opened five years before that and then allison changes made a bunch of noise with the tween in between so they actually made the noise and mother love bone was making all sorts of noise before Andy would died. And let's not forget that in nineteen eighty eighty four little band called the cult a common territory as hoping you would run little song called Sanctuary for rock radio. I aren't the caught. In the rock and Roll Hall of fame makes no sense. We probably would sit down and do all this so so. Let me ask you this if somebody were to have the money to start a rock and Roll History Museum and do a rock and Roll History Museum Hall of Fame Name And Make It a nonprofit type of deal. That's based on this type of stuff. Do think it would be more effective and credible than the rock and Roll Hall of Fame Institution Institution not the musicians of course and people need to understand. We're not slagging on any of the musicians because they are professional musicians. They are all masters at their craft after all great at what they do deserve to be they deserve to be where they are but a lot of founders as we discuss are left out. And we're talking about the the institution and the decision makers. I think what we're talking about is the sins of omission. Yes no and I think that look anytime. Music isn't a competition right. And I think what happens with any time you start giving award or are it becomes subjective and it gets we. Are you know the rock and Roll Hall of fame based on whose idea rock and roll at least when they award the platinum album if the recording industry of America or at least when they give out the academy award it you know the whatever the Film Academy whatever they call it Mitchell name bit so there's at least an attributed door you're somebody that has a source of credibility the rock and Roll Hall of fame is it just is what it is so let's just say it was like the National Recording Arts and sciences music achievement or something like that achievement achievement versus hall of fame because all fame means that somebody is going to be excluded and. I don't know that there's any right way to do it. I think what they're doing with the experience music project in Seattle. It's nice because it's a museum dedicated to to the local the local contributions to it. I think that's fantastic. I think anytime you start talking about competition. Can you know. There are certain things that we can all agree on. We all agree on the Beatles. We can all agree well. I don't know that we can all agree on the Beatles because there are people who get it don't like the Beatles acknowledge the fact that their the single most important musical artist of our time. I think it's your doc. You're talking about subjective opinions and the sensible mission is really the issue. I don't care who got in but I do care who doesn't get in and you can't can't ignore the obvious in your Post When we were talking about this you said unfortunately artists and fans are annually led to believe the fan vote matters to the fans hands? It's become a source of debate. That's not a bad thing. Keeps the spirit of music lively this year Kinda stood out because you had to artists who were nominated who led the fan vote and neither one of them got in have been a tornado tapping yeah. It is what people don't understand that I believe and correct me if I'm wrong because again. This goes back to the criteria period for induction. I believe at the panel of thousand votes right and it made up of some music industry people gun critic some members of the rock and Roll Hall of fame and the Fan but well the a fan vote out of all those hundreds of thousands or millions of votes that are cast throughout the five or six artists that they have in their only counts for one of those one thousand votes. That's hired to fill the fans. The fans are one one thousand of the factor to get somebody in so in that instance who care. It's a Kokin thing. What sock is it does activate a fan base which which is always good anytime we can sit here and talk about music and debate that this is great this kind of division in America that is welcome because it doesn't really mean anything and in the end nobody gets? Ah No just maybe a feeling to you know if you get personally I hope thing is about the metal bias You have multiple nominees is this year Judas. Priest's and motor head. You can make a case for soundgarden. Because that's how we first heard about him was when we did Metal Radio Paul and none of those fans got in and yeah. I don't know what the process will be with any of those artists or others in the hard rock heavy metal category. That aren't in but there's definitely the group bias for or or against certain types of music and services. Well then Nicholas back to that small group of people who are the final movers and shakers and artists in their club. It which is why I say. There's no accountability to it right when it's a blind process when it's a secret process when you go to the Conclave and you wait for the white smoke to come out of the staff you know you say to yourself okay. They've now decreed upon it. We don't know from what I understand and again I don't know this to be true. So this is all rumor and conjecture hearsay from what I understand. In order to be considered for the rock and Roll Hall of fame you have to be presented by somebody and sponsored by somebody like it's a motorcycle club or something like that or a knighthood and yeah somebody has to present you in front the Almighty people and then they sit in the room and they're all of Almighty sit back and go should we. I don't know maybe what if we made a donation to the rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. Oh yeah well like everything else you know. Money is the lifeblood of Societe from what I understand. There is a financial consideration or consideration fedaration for the rock and Roll Hall of fame just like well. Don't know this certainly goes brings us back to ozzy. This goes back to the pay. Place at certain bands get on certain tours is based upon their record company and or management and or some sponsor paying for that acts. It is my understanding that you can pay for access into the rock and Roll Hall of fame as well any initial consideration. I want to say to that thirty anything else. Yeah I love your perspective. Always you know that you never fail to To stir things up there Paul. No matter where you've been whenever we've talked this. This is the constant you know when you were in Sacramento or Kansas City. Are there in Phoenix. which which I hope you will stay there and entertain the people in Phoenix for a long time? No matter what it is you always loved to stir shit up and that's why you keep it interesting Bro. Well look music is a great thing. Look everybody talks about radio and music discussion. Everyone says it's not brain surgery. No it's way more important than this is the kind of stuff that he people from going nuts over watching the new. This music is such an emotional attachment. Listen to music music they listen to music or the connection and a and when you are connected and passionate about something anytime somebody flag your favorite band tribal like your favorite sports team your arms and you try to defend spend your fourth team which brings me to a closing thing that I wanted to hit you with and I know you're trying to wrap up. The argument between the band doesn't hurt anybody but when artist who has played the way at their crap for thirty forty fifty plus years right and their name on a nomination about Obama craff work or a band right the empty spot or band like motor at all of the in classic lineup of motorhead Argonne. You know they got Linda Ronstadt in before she's half which would the quality move on the part of the Rock Hall of fame but you and I both know a lot of these guy. I front going to beat here so when you see 'em see five who everybody but the rock and Roll Hall of fame knows are pioneers in a musical form. And they see their name on the ballot and they finally validation Dacian for our light work and then their Passover in favor of somebody who may or may not be deserving as that band irving. That's the key answer Sakib as deserving because of what they did in the door they opened we could go on forever about this but I know you've got to run to you. Just got off the Air Karen. Thanks for taking some time to talk about your view on the Rock Hall here. It almost sounds like the Who Cares about the Rock Hall podcasts? We've been going on about it but dude I just WanNa tell you before we get out of here and sign off. I'm GonNa go put on a copy of electric warrior. I'M GONNA kick back and we're just going to celebrate the T. Rex got in and I will go home and put on actually at home. I will go in my office. Input on a copy of electric cafe. And listen to Boeing boom chuck from craftwork and give my finger to Trent redner for not saying take my spot and give it to craft where deserve more than I do. He did just so you know when he was nominated he did say that. I do feel that if we get in without craft were getting in. I will feel very very uncomfortable. They should be in before us and he did interview. And I don't know if people realize this gangsta rap wouldn't be what it is without craft work that's a whole nother another day or wait a minute. We already did that. One didn't address Schwartz told us the whole story about that with school. He d. It was crazy how that Chris being in the craft work and working with school. How a lot of that stuff spun together was in our episodes? We did to episode interview with Chris Shorts from Rough House and rough nation right and hip hop wouldn't be where it is today. We're not prepared from Belli's choirs bands. So you know it is what it is this all ties together together for those people that don't think that hip hop Rasmin rocket does yeah. You're right Bro. You're right and Whitney Houston is the natural progression of aretha Franklin and Billie early holiday and Nina Simone and all of them as well and people fail to see that connection to unfortunate that we ought up in semantic So you know. I wish that everybody that deserving the bands and artists that can congratulate you for them on the rock and Roll Hall of fame or ignoring parts that it's been there and open in the door and by the way had those artists wouldn't have been a role in film magazine. There wouldn't be a rock and Roll Hall of fame. That's true that's where we're going to leave your brother at the my buddy neander Paul the mark in the Interpol show on Kfi LX mornings in Phoenix. Thanks for being with us here on the inbound history a rocket row you do wear Parkas when it's sixty degrees breath no marcus. I think that conversation could've gone on for another hour easily. There's so much to talk about that. We didn't even discuss I do crannies. We didn't get into all of our personal peeves and all that stuff but you know I think after talking all morning on his radio show and talking to us for a while. I think we got everything at all. I'm sure he's in the quiet room for the rest of the day. You could find him on the market. neanderthal shows okay S. L. X. in Phoenix every day. And he's always on the Internet. You can find him on facebook and stuff. He's a great follow. And you could follow us while you're there if you don't already do so on facebook it's the imbalance history of rock and roll on twitter. It's imbalanced his Co.. Without the WI. Thank you twitter and then of course You you can follow our personal pages as well Ray Kube Radio and Marcus in the darkest obscene people from the podcast. Showing up on on my on my so. 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"The. Episode thirty. Calling travel, audibles Welcome to the HAMP. Your show about how to get one over in the sing called life the suburban. Chad Beland. Dude. What are you drinking tonight? I'm sticking Kansas City loyal until I'm GONNA. Ride this thing out. I went back and dug deep. This one's got some. Old Special Memories for both of us, but it's the old. Boulevard tank seven. ooh, ask kicker as my boy. Yes, our buddy newbie would call it when I had that. Member I had a pony of that for my fortieth birthday. Oh, that was where I really got. Used to the term Ab. I got introduced in sugar and how sugar converts into alcohol. What is going on I've only had three beers and I'm on my ass. Exactly I am drinking. It's a regional product, so I'm drinking. I'm keeping a kind of fighting a headache most of the day today I think it's the weather since we've had monsoon downpours. Today! I saw my poor neighbor. 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At some point, I'm going to have to talk to him about that like in inlet at length. Like how do you come out of that unscathed and not being able? He loves it I I. Gather in the same can be, said a mile. Moderate people will look mile mater with the come to the region. You're like you guys are all D. bag. So I mean I could see that. Yeah. I knew you weren't gonNA. Disagree with that statement as little. Yeah. We won't we won't figure out where we put the wildcats and the triple the conversation. So for if we're if if Mizzou's Mizzou's Dick. And K US huge bag then we're. Is that leave K. state. Oh well played Sir. Out there on the sticks? So I walked into that one. You did that was early in the show to launch into a triple. The people I turn it off. They'll give up just yet. Yeah, though doubt so with the weather clearing up and. Reopening phases happening wins wins. Burry visit in your future where it's not just a pickup a parking lot visit. Yeah, I don't know. I'm getting to that point where I'm starting to noodle that one around, but still not quite there yet. You're still not quite committed. I'm like I. Don't want to go to the dentist. It seems kind of irresponsible to go burri instead. I actually made the dentist trip like the day they reopened. thinking my logic being if I hit him the first day. Then yet like there's no nothing. There's no taint on there yet. There's no taint the word. I was GONNA use, but it ended been soiled, but sure we'll just we'll just we'll just roll. We'll does role that. Man so before we launched on, we are starting to have a little side conversation, but before we ran into technical issues that it just amazes me how we can oftentimes like people don't realize how often we have technical issues, and then we still like skate right on time into this thing. You were talking about. You're getting comments about the Jessie Jacobs show. Yeah Yeah One. They found it enjoyable Baotou they were They were impressed with Jesse sound quality, but then. We Really we really punching above our level on that one now like. We're lucky to get her. She's she's too good for us to be honest. quite frankly, she really is to good yeah too good for us now. What people need to remember about that in the sound quality with Jesse is she is a podcast producer. So she might be a little bit informed about how to set this stuff up, although she in fact had some struggles with the Mike. Happens to the best of us. And then the her other half does a podcast. To right, so yeah, what is it what is podcast? It's fintech related. for Fintech Sake. Yes, it is for Fintech Sake, and I was wondering if they both love the play on words like you know dirty, but not yeah. Yeah! I was wondering if he was gonNA. Stop doing that with his. Job Change but I'm glad he's continued to do the show like he took that with this personal brand. Yeah He. He's good at it to. Guy Yeah his quality guy! So last weekend. Memorial Day weekend. And you were able to venture out. How was your Memorial Day weekend? It was actually pretty good. I I don't know if it's covid related or a midlife crisis, but. we bought a boat. You WanNa just one. We bought to bow. You've ought to you. WanNa clarify that statement, though because we went back into the REDNECK -ness of K. state. Is it really about? It is a seaworthy vessel, yes. Now it also could be construed as an inflatable, Kayak but. It. Nonetheless okay. How how did the KAYAKING session go? And you guys ended up going to Shawnee mission park correct and we did. It's kind of one of the things that was fun I since it is inflatable. There's a little bit of work involved so I like in myself to being in like a NASCAR, pit crew. Like. How fast can I get this bitch up and running? Okay. What was the land to lake speed time there? So Land Lake speed time to kayaks. Eighteen minutes eighteen minutes. Okay, that's not too shabby. Was Pretty impressed, yeah, that's I. Don't I don't know where I could shave any off. Okay so, you had down. Did you practice at home before you got out there to do? I'm not insane. Of course. I blew it up in my living room. And then I sat in it for like twenty minutes like a giddy schoolboy, but. took her I blew her up yet. So the producers keenly interested in this because he. We've been having some discussion. If you had succeed if this was a successful purchase. The producers interested in getting a paddleboard version of they make inflatable paddleboard versions, but we're. We're like we need to check with Chad to see how well the inflation process work. They do make a six-man inflatable paddleboard at COSCO I mean I. Don't know why you would wanna go pat aborting with a basketball team, but you would have that option, is it a? Is it a physically distant paddleboard? Six manpower by that would be like a wafer that would cover the entire lake. I would think. It's pretty massive, but you know. I. It doesn't look like fun to me, but. It comes with a hand pump. And the first time I blew it up in the living room. I the hand pump and that work you out a little bit. You work up the ladder doing that, but it still wasn't too bad, but I found this little. Inflate deflate thing on Amazon you. It's internal batteries USB charge, and it's smaller than my phone and it blew up the kayaks in like two minutes. And then it also deflates because we learned. The tricky part is getting the air out 'cause. You're never GONNA get it back in your car if you don't deflated properly. So folks we have not. Do you remember the brand? Of Of said item. I can tell you here in a SEC, so folks. This is not a paid sponsorship by the inflate deflate usb utility that Chad's mentioning, but we will throw a link in the show notes. On. It sounds like it's GonNa. Be a teenager purchase here soon too so. It blew up both of them and deflated both of them and still had miles to go i. mean it was. It's an impressive impressive tool. That's nice. So how was the the overall trip out to the lake? It was Nice I. Mean we tried to get out there early? Because we knew every other knucklehead was going to be out, you know, and by the time we got off the lake it was. Just packed people were everywhere on any form of vessel. You could find. But it was good. It was nice getting out there at least doing something different. Yeah, that's that's nice, and we're gonNA talk about some outdoor adventure because we had some plan for the summer and it sounds like they're. They're not going to happen. So No, now without a a border getting opened, but Now looking like it, but before we go there though. Did you ask what did you do? I'm just curious well I. Ate Pizza and beers with you I. Drink a lot of beer this weekend past weekend. Threat weekend to do it. It is the right weakened to do it, so I had yeah, had beers and pizza with you and then beers and burgers with other friends on Saturday. And then I had. What did we have on our? Remember what we ate on Sun on Monday her. And then we had beers borders the next day. And we are. We are recording this on national today's national. Burger Day. Yeah, he does celebrated early the, but we're not having beers night. Where have not use the are having a beer, but yeah I am having a beer, but no. There's no burgers tonight I. Think we've exhausted the burger the burger consumption, but now we did a lot of yard work I'm trying to help. A company I'm doing work for Ghida site launched a new redesigned website, so I worked a little bit, but not not as much as normally do. There's a lot of a lot of beer. This weekend will sounds like equality weekend it was it was a quality weekend. Yeah. It was nice the other thing we talked about so the producer hung out with a US and I'm looking forward to. Some real sports. And I and I was going to ask you because I saw on twitter. The you actually watched the match. Did you actually watch the match? I turned the match on, and I watched the prematch match. It was just live version of professional athletes speaking. And I was enthralled I don't like Golf I. Don't like Playing Golf. I certainly don't like watching golf, but. It was compelling stuff yep. How compelling I did not watch any of it. I heard. Some of the commentary was worth watching like Barkley providing commentary on golf when he's known widely across the universe, not just here like we're talking guardians of the galaxy planets know that he is the worst Golfer in the universe. The fact that he was providing golf commentary was yes. Yeah, I mean He. Swing is so ugly, but he. He's good for TV with funny. Though like all the guys, the announcer guys not the four guys that were playing. They were all dressed like engulf gear like they were all like getting ready to go out and hit the course. But I mean it was pouring rain and nobody really wanted to see anybody else play, so it was interesting, though yeah. I was live sports. I'll take it so I've got a live sport. Opportunity for you this weekend? Do! Real football. Real football so producer. You WanNa talk to so these guys are out of school. They're they're just itching for something to do. And, I gotta get approval from the producer. I'm thinking about having the commissioner. Of this new league that's football league. That's been formed here in the Kansas. City area PRODUC- wanted you WanNa tell Chad, what what the the league and what what the deal is here? He's not the commissioner. He's just a participant. Okay! We have a League of I think it's like seven teams of six players and would call it the HSF L. High School Football League. And the summer hopefully will be able to play some games I don't. I, don't know how. That's GonNa work, but. Or trying to figure out I've been teasing him incessantly because I'm. They've talked about football. He's actually bought. And purchase football gloves. Because that's the way they keep the germs off their. You know their hands as though by the gloves. Right and then just wash their gloves, but it's funny. They've been practicing for weeks and I'm like you ever GonNa play Games. You're like the Anti Alan Iverson. All they want to do is break this. Yeah, and so they eventually they're eventually going to break down and and play games and I. Tell them they should livestream this thing. If people are watching Korean baseball, they'll watch a bunch of KNUCKLEHEAD. highschoolers play football. I would watch it. I would come out and watch it. Again, my cooler. I got my chair they're. So where's the? Where's the? Where's the game this weekend? The first game is. Tomorrow! Night, I think tomorrow night Friday night under the lights. Yeah, Friday night! At the DACCA NORTH DALLAS SO! We got I. Think we have four games Sunday. Wait. It's at the deck. Yes, the deck. This is a approved school activity. I mean last night checked. All their facilities are locked. They're young. They can jump fences. I'm waiting for the thing to get busted. Yeah, we're not to you and I are getting over the fence. If if the pope gums yeah no doubt. Speaking yes, so we may or may not have the commissioner on the show we'll. He may be arrested after this first weekend, but we'll. We'll see the other thing so speaking of the POPO. The producer had a public service announcement. He wanted to share with you to. Did. You share that with him. Okay, yeah, they sit outside from my house. Sit By park and just wait for you to. Just coast through that stop sign all right so as long as you are aware of. It were just making sure we perform a public service announcement for you, Chad and you don't get. Don't get a ticket. That's the one stop sign I stop at because they're always sitting there. Just roll through ninety nine percent of the. Oh, man! So, we were supposed to have a summer trip as we. Do. We do an annual trip and we'll go somewhere for a long weekend and we had the Vancouver planned. and. A little side trip outside of Vancouver. There's an aisle beautiful kind of nature preserve island. That I'm of no relation. Called Bowen Island although I was very excited to spend some time on that island and I. I don't think the borders can be open I was checking. Today even looks like you and i. both were having that each. I actually was checking in there, just allowing family and businesses to essential businesses to cross now, yeah! At least for now, it's closed till June twenty second, okay and. Canada will decide if they want to extend it. It's kind of weird. We're on the other side. We're Mexico now. Yeah, we are Mexico at this point. They're like. Yeah, we don't want any Americans in here. No offense yeah, no, no offense, so ardy. No, you've called one audible. Right you on what you what? You're audible you've you've fi understand correct. Leave become part of the RV movement. Will Yeah. We're trying to think of something that we could do as a family that keeps you still somewhat is located. They didn't have to get on a plane. You know just somewhere that we can do the same thing. We're doing here just somewhere else, so we were going to rent an RV and Crews that big rig down the old highway, little white line fever baby, the little white line fever. We. We had some friends already do that, so if you WANNA compare notes. They took their son on college visits across the couple. I know they went through most of the state of Missouri. And cancelled some of their vacation plans and went ahead and I think it was last week. Did basically a college visit tour via RV? And they were texts. The the wife was texting Beck at one point, said Rv in hard rain saw X.. Two just before we have to go even slower. Yes, even slower. Yeah, I had I I called a second audible. Though I got up to the line I, called inaudible, and then I didn't like what I saw, so we called another audible. Do what's that, so? I called today to to put the deposit down on the RV. And they said they're already booked. Completely threw July. They're like we are so insanely busy. We can't like. We can't get to the calls fast enough. Apparently everybody else had the same idea. I had the right idea at the right time. I just sat on it too long. Yeah, well. Yeah, 'cause you were early. You were talking about this early in before I hear heard it. Being discussed on the news now went looked at it like a month ago I was like. It's good, but had some other things going on, so I didn't want to commit and it's kind of one of those things. Where close enough that? It's pay for the whole thing, yeah! And if you back out. You know they give you like two hundred dollars back of your three thousand. Yeah, no doubt well and that we hadn't gotten a commitment I. Don't think even until this morning or that until you texted me about the trip and being able to get the full credit. Back on our trip to trip to Vancouver so. Yeah. Yeah, that was going to be. That was going to be tough. The other thing I was talking to another friend over the Memorial Day weekend. And it wasn't about lake of the ozarks, and all the madness that was transpiring there, but it was about just these camping trips with the RV's. There are there are only so many places you can park those things and a lot of though the RV parks of already booked up to because he was checking into it as well. It's just writing I think a lot of people have pivoted you know pivoted that direction well. It's like you know. The airlines are getting killed, but the RV businesses big apparently had it's. Give and take everywhere strange. Yeah, the gases gas is cheap, so yeah, well I'm still hopeful that we're able to head north even if it's not the RV. We could ran a big big van. Luxury Van Gogh seventy style, right. Yeah and just and just head somewhere north and pass through, although Minneapolis making me really sad based on the news of what's transpired they're. Horrible, yeah but you know stopping by there and picking up some beer. Women Be Nice many good breweries in Minne- Minneapolis. I'm down. Yep GotTA. Go Dangerous Man, yes. So we did pivot though. Fifty two o'clock already booked another trip, no surprise. Locked and loaded baby so. I'm like well. We wanted to go to the mountains or whatever somewhere see some scenery. That's not my yard. So we started looking at just like isolated remote cabins. And we found this cabin. In blue. River Colorado which is south of Breckenridge okay. And I it's. Looks pretty sweet overall. It's an AIRBNB plus which I've never taken advantage of one of those, but. Is Cold. Winter fell. Did you plunk down the money? Just because it was called, winter fell. Got It definitely got an extra. Sweet marketing their sweep marketing I just getting my fucking. Hogwarts and people will like stay here. I bet it helps. And the owner that I've already talked to twice, and he's incredibly nice. Guess what his name is. Oh No. L.! Know. What? Rob Rob Stark. Yeah. Yeah Winter fell to King of the King of winter fell very nice nice touch. I was going to go with stark, but then I was like Yeah, you gotTa play the. Play the averages. Edwards out there. No, we're good old ED. He's got like Sinus and whatnot. It's not hokey though you know I've seen some shit, and you're like. Oh my God like I'm going to be sleeping in. A bed. That looks like a wolf like no, it's not like that it's. It's really it's really classy. So is this place actually have the accoutrements of? Like staying it's game of thrones themed. It's not game through steam. Did it's just named after and then okay? Like you know as a sign out in front of it, it's got the how stark signet with winter fell on it I mean. It's okay, just a little touch here they. Just, a wisp of it yeah, what what was the name of that place that we stayed at? In Saint Martin. That was used for like French soap. Operas was an envoy. was that the name mature encore a new star with an e Ecuador remember. Place was dope. Man knows one easily one of the nicest place I've ever stayed. Yeah, it was super. Nice. Place provided. The mosquitoes. Don't rape you. They have no control over the mosquitoes. It's tropical environment. Oh, I know I. I know I just look like a leper. By the time we got by the time we got home. So, so yeah, that's that's now my big trip for the year until we take our trip. Yeah which we got a sort that we get a sort out those details. Speaking of covering protecting yourself, how many mass do you have I'm curious on hand or enroute. We'll count in route. Fourteen while who fourteen? For just you. Know, not just for me for the family. Oh, I was thinking just you. My goodness me too okay because. I have to, but I know people that have I know somebody that has up to like six masks. Almost one every day of the week. Well, let's say you need to wash them you gotTA. Get, the virus awesome the taint as you called it earlier. It is what it is. So which you only have to do, you have one. That's your favorite. Yeah I win. That's my favorite I like the ones with the the. Side loops that just go behind your ear versus ones that tied behind your head It's It's got kind of a cool black design and. I look like job. I didn't so I think it's pretty cool. Did you buy it or did you have somebody make it? Now I got both I get them from local like so Casey and okay. You got it from the local makers, which school again not sponsored by the show just curious about the product. We've got the the regular. You know almost like house painting. Whatever the are are mass. Sir Got a couple of those, and then when grants classmates has been making him. So, she gave her fabric matter of fact. Grant was really upset. The producer was really upset because one of his grandmother's. Although I'm not supposed to color your grandma, my, she hates that term. Yeah, so Gran Gran one of her friends had k. you fabric and turned it over to the friend and made a mask and he was rather upset. He didn't get a k. you mask. But? Yeah, she's been making. Our mass sent her a wild way. And I'm putting this on record. Just make sure her mom doesn't still gift card I emailed email the wild way coffee gift card to them. Thank them for making us a mass so nice. I don't didn't like the logo or anything, but I did see a cool mask with this. Girl had it was a K.. You mask and she had A. it was blue. Covering that and then like on. Just to the after mouth through his up the Jay Hawk, but that was a flap. You could lift up and then there was a just a whole just big enough for a straw. Very nice so very functional this mask, is he? I don't know like medically. It's probably you know secure, but it looked. Interesting yeah I wouldn't be surprised. You've seen the mass where people will put like other famous jaw lines. On the bottom I could see Jayhawk beak being really popular. I'm surprised that there hasn't been somebody there probably is at this point where you can actually get A. Three. Like a a three D. image or panoramic shots of your own face, so you can wear your own face on a mask. At, but then when you're talking, your lips are moving. Yeah, it would be Kinda creepy cringe but. I bet they'd still sell. Oh. I'm sure they would. People buy anything I've been contemplating getting weather Charlie Hustle massive and done it though. I liked them. They're just white. I. Don't know why that's generally a bad choice. Yeah, I actually put a white t shirt on today that I liked the message on the t shirt. Put It on its side on my person for about fifteen seconds and I one I can't wear white t shirt. Like. Yeah. It's a problem it is. It is a problem. So I'm it just you and me this week. I'm super excited. We might have the commissioner of the it's the. H. S. F. L.. My have the commissioner of the HSF NFL on the shows a future guest. We already have a couple of guests lined up. For the show so I don't know if you know this, but one of the activities that just been completely booming with. covid nineteen in the corona virus has been video game playing. Oh. Yes, yeah, producer out of every day. What's how how many hours do you spend playing video games? This not as much now but probably. Way Too much, don't they? You're GonNa make me seem like a bad parent. Anyway. We're having. Bubba, gator is going to be on the show, and he is the executive director for an e sports foundation here in the city. It's a not for profit that actually looks at how to use video games to connect kids and bring them closer together, and they actually have a curriculum, and they help build e, gaming, leagues and e Gaming Clubs in the high school communities, so, but it's a way to bring kids together way to help. help the them improve their self, esteem and self worth and create a great great environment, so we're GONNA. Have Bubba on the show in the next couple of weeks, the talked to him about the spike in video gaming, and how video gaming actually can be a positive influence in people's lives, and we kind of did the anti version of that a couple seasons go where a drag the producer alongside a female friend and we talked about. How he should play so many video games because you know may a cut into the relationship, but this this will be the positive side of that experience, so we're GonNa have have Rabah on the other person we're going to have on although it may be get pushed back a little bit to coincide with his book. Date is a gentleman by the name of Dan. Bozon And Dan is a really interesting guy, former navy helicopter pilot. Accomplished Navy helicopter pilot that then after leaving the Navy went to Harvard Business School got his degree, and he's by all accounts. He still a successful businessman. But. He struggled through a lot of that transition from military life to business life, and he's got a book coming out. That's part memoir, part, self help really funny I've read some excerpts of it, but the books titled, and it's supposed to come out in September I believe so we may get closer to his book launch. But people might see that early live. The the title of the book is this civilian Shit is hard, and people are interested in that they can check out Dan Dan Bozon dot com, and then the third thing I. WanNa mention because we're going to have one of these sooner rather than later was your idea Chad which for lack of a better title. I'm calling it the grab bag guest. Yeah, that works yeah, so tell tell folks about what what we're doing here with the grab bag guest. We were sitting out on my patio and we had a few few beers, so we're. Having some really good ideas come because that's usually when the better come. And I said you know. Why don't we just have our producer book, somebody and just? Throw on the show, sight, unseen, and then just. See where it plays out. You know. Maybe give us a direction, and that's it. Yeah, you were you were early on in this. You were like completely cold in the producer, said canal, at least tell you Kinda the topic that you're discussing and I went. That's fine, but no more. It sounded like a much better idea on my patio, but I'm still willing to give it a go. So, we're. GonNa test. We're going to test this idea. Yes, I'm super intrigued by this, but we're. We're going to call it. The grab gas and we're not even GONNA. Know who the guest is. If they. They're into NACHO chips. That's the example I use. We're GONNA. We're we could spend an entire episode talking about NACHO chips. EASILY CHIPS YEAH We've done that with cargo shorts. We didn't entire episode practically about cargo short, so I think we could. Began it out. You ready for for Triple D.. Yeah! Let's do right so for folks that maybe hearing this for the first time triple diese game. We like to play at the end of each episode. So yes, you're close to the end. Just hold on your almost there. Triple D. Out, it's our way of outing bad behavior. We brought a scenario each week and discuss whether it's A. Dick do a dumb ass move. And we've had some coronavirus specials of late in this is. Not Going to change really at all were still got another corona virus special here this week's Triple D. move. What do you call a door to door salesperson? Especially in the era of physical distancing. I've had this happen to me and this wasn't like recent. Even when we had the reopening, this was even two weeks ago as you may recall at texted you and I'm like hold onto this idea i. just had somebody show up to my door and I'm sitting there going. You expect me to answer the door. You want me to open this. This is one that personally paint damage or no. It is one of my big bugaboos I mean especially because I have A. A very prominent, no solicitor signed with the Overland Park City Ordinance. That says they cannot knock on my door and Schlep their wares with me so when they do come up to the door. I usually give them a firm lashing. That sounds worse than I. I intended, but. I give an earful and basically you know. No I. Don't I'm not buying what you're selling. You're not welcome. You know you gotta go, so it's a dumb ass. Move in general, but to actually do it in the middle of the pandemics just epoch dumb ass. My opinion. Yeah, I think it's epoch, dumb ass and I don't know if I'm GONNA. Blame the door to door sales, person or his or her boss, but to me. There's Dick Component like this is so brazen. There's like a Dick Component. To this I'm like really. Really. And you, you force this person to go out and do this or you decided to go out and do this. My wife is much nicer than I am. And she's always like you know. Don't be mean to him and I'm like. They went and applied for this job. They went and had an interview and said door to door sales sounds great. Yeah, I'll give it a go like if they're stupid enough to take that job they can deal with. What I'm serving Yep well, so you in turn have turned dick on their domes-. I don't even think that I just. Everything says go away and you still resort. So you, you're just going to call it a cosmic course correction right we'll. We'll roll that so I can I can certainly roll with dumb ass, so yeah, even taking a door to door salesperson job. At least get into digital sales that it even be better. Even phone sales would be better at this point, so we got dumb ass, dumb ass for that for sure the music guest. We actually were supposed to have a music guests on tonight. There called the late fees. We're GONNA WORK TO RE book them. Just because of time constraints, or if you're listening to the Audio version, we have a clip that will include, but. Nonetheless will show a little bit love to late fees. We are. Takes. Off. She's. Jealous! Start. A. A. I think that's it. For US tonight, folks. Thanks for hanging with us. If you've enjoyed today's episode, go out to the. He says she says Casey facebook page and like follow us. If you haven't already remember, you can catch us. Live on facebook almost every Thursday at six PM Central. 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#388  David Michod, Felicity Jones

The Empire Film Podcast

1:49:20 hr | 10 months ago

#388 David Michod, Felicity Jones

"This week we're up up and away lovely hot air balloon with Felicity Jones Star King yes the director of the King David Michaud it's always nice to bring people coming to you a day after Halloween and really hopes the most of you haven't been killed in your sleep why not they are the best people the are the very finest people and be honest most Hello Fahd I'm Chris you had and welcome to the Empire podcast this week running due to what I can only describe as a hedge lean Snafu a work arg e Queen Helena her hello how are you I'm good I'm good I'm no respect you as a person thanks I didn't WanNa look at that area sure anything below the neck not sure that I am I should be doing I'm just glad groomed my eyebrows in that case Mark God that's that I haven't had time to really prepare for this week's podcast you although thankfully I live in an apartment block so therefore we tend to not really hotels Shukla Shukla's and I also have some of the little I'm not very good costumes they always seem a bit scary and difficult I like Halloween as a concept we watched hocus pocus the other night so I'm very much in the spirit ninety four days it's only like seventy eight minutes or so you can watch it twice in the night that's a shame but but I don't do I'm not a big Halloween Guy I've other stuff going on but I don't have I'm not around your house asking for trick or treat don't invite them in Helen in case it doesn't Chris I mean actually you know Bucky buffy obviously Butler she's Rian chant the house once you've accent invited vampire into kind of lock them out again abusive for him in the in the Anne Rice novels so you know if you were to do if I'm part movie right and you had to create one bit of Lore says about the last twenty years suddenly Vampires Allergic to silver which has always been aware world thing before I'm sorry we quite nice if it was like a pleasant smelling her of some sort that was bad for round part so like I some of the stuff that they have to resort to like buffy and supernatural and things like that because they always have bags full I like that I'm going to one sure we just found Pires once they come into your house because I also liked by the way it's okay for them to be in your bedroom bedrooms not always a place of you know of as the moment so you know Salami totally fine if it is sexual then vipers are and the kitchen totally fine foul front wants to come in garlic's stuff food in their mouths in the hope of fighting them off there's some questions yeah so here is a question from twitter and it comes from one of pronounced your name correctly I hope that your vision I think you are I don't know why I as a beating so what is your most prized slashed feud hero book there was stuff that I knew I'd seen on streaming services and I'm like oh I don't have to worry about a particular entry to try and get hold of it which was immense ingredient again anyway my dvd's are color coded by spine it's very upsetting for more bookcases full of books there we go the leather bound some DVD's Mahogany it does kind of a big deal would you have stuff yeah yeah it's nice to know that I have still have the region one dvd I have the leather bound genuinely lead or maybe fake leather I Neil Gaiman and I got signed and he drew me a Sandman inside and I think that would be one your house is burning down what what you save well I genuinely I would be tempted by those but I think I what do I have a really surgery oh no wait my diehard box at this shape and like the next on by Toby Ziegler so I'd probably say those priceless priceless stuff this is a response to stories this week that Disney is beginning to also of the Prince Charles Cinema for example over here in London that was show these run theaters or repertory cinemas which is really frustrating now they seem this is some kind of essentially taking stock in that they actually rethink this nine again keeps those in taking over and then they can afford to take risks on slightly less worrying times in that respect I think you know there was a statistic that I would I would suspect it's more like a third or quarter so there is a a should be lower than they have ever been in history you should be able to digital copies movie movie but it'll have you know they were advertising Netflix and Amazon Prime Shoud be filled with movies and how crazy right but they're not now and the Joyce of casts who'll be very much of the never seen die hard because that's an old movie or I've never seen future originally said that she was working with someone who refused to watch back to the future is an expense but that stuff's on Netflix and Amazon prime but the fact remains that one thousand nine hundred seventy s heist movie really fun heist movie saw it as a kid really the thin man which like French movies one of the sequels I wanted to watch the original I it was incredibly difficult to find would rather give somebody might not you know impair my one thousand nine or whatever the heck it is to watch these old movies as a as a a stick with which to Disney they should open the Fox vaults I mean they have refer James Dyer and we went to see die hard the Prince Charles Enemies incredible I've never seen it in the big screen before and a which gave it a certain result I have to say and also made the the symbolic imagery the watched those films and if they're not available anymore and that's that's really really sad amazon prime I think able to find some classic really older horror films for example on Amazon prime all arsenic and old lace it's not the version really yeah it's a nineteen sixties so you think you're looking for it is not always the thing that you're looking for I do think that the studios dollars on every single time but we do WANNA see your movies we do see your movies and the idea that unnecessarily even studios or companies but maybe buying up old films wholesale it's this channel but if you have satellite TV or whatever there's a great channel called talking pictures the jewels like Suddenly will be on there or the day the you mean giants need to up in the meantime I mean there are resources that you should look to about sometimes to see some of these things so so you just you know go out there and poke there's loads and loads more including somebody just said why an American Werewolf in London is a needs specialist attention that wouldn't be available in closer hospitals just the other week I never thought to ask him this is the biggest question of all the huge at last cell as if that is indeed your real name and I strongly is are we won't see it or just wait for me to ask in panic on Thursday or Friday I Jones or David Michel I'm from tiny flecks haven't unplanned this podcast in any up with the very thought provoking increasingly timely the rover it's the fourth fifth four fifth fear and with the Michaud Joel Edgerton Magic sprinkle over the top and Timmy to with Robert Pattinson not Robert Pattinson is the dough FA blurts Mendelssohn Joel Edgerton as false stuff Sean Harris is again a bit of a a left field turn from show and when he came into London around the time loan film festival is the diocese of you know those early days was a mixture of youth and just the sided good so am I so this should be twenty minutes do you WanNa yes good stuff because I read somewhere that you actually learn about the movie that you make as you're consumed me so completely for so long almost from the outside and May and I find in the process that I always learn stuff about I just I was just amazed at how how frequently people misquoted you know this is after animal kingdom I just read everything goes mysteriously old good and then was absolutely positive I didn't say you've been living with for a long time now you Joel I started writing the back in two thousand thirteen I have no idea what's next and I'm liking it because it feels new every movie I'm very excited by the prospect of whatever's the old brain cells yeah my scholars an empty vessel movie six years but also you know as has been the case before as well as conversations with JAL JAL came to me the Henry full applies and Henry Five on stage when he was fresh out of drama school okay and too shouted drama school you never know whether or not his career waiting for you and and and we love working together yeah so yeah and those early compensated when he basically to make a medieval film whatever that means but it doesn't feel like me okay and also relishing who just being because I'm what I'm doing when I'm thinking about my own stuff is I don't know getting caught and following up this movie that as you say was was universally liked and you know his does I would say yeah and that was itself kind of abstract challenge that was a movie correct we were going to write a script about a kind of Koch ice in the desert I think I you know possibly to my own detriment but I have the idea of doing something exactly hod takes so much time it doesn't feel like a job at feels yeah but it also means I think I probably make it difficult for people to is vastly different from war machine which was different from the roofer which is vastly different from Asmara that he returned to again Joel Bian one guy pearce been another Ben Hannigan and again it's not something that you like to do when do you know you've found somebody the first time because they're really really good really really good people to being you and there is something you know the movies are huge big uh-huh Johnson exception but it's always nice to bring people that especially this one and Joel plays falstaff in this and he's been tastic and altitude can you talk about that decision did I come from him that I come from you well you know and politics but also do with form you know it's with we didn't want to do is a story of Henry five almost as a kind of well-intentioned tyrant yeah shaw some form of Middle English and we want to make the movie in either of the it's kind of it's it it has a formality to it I'm where in that period but also kind of getting a hint that middle English probably in a way the only people in the movie who speak in modern art pay else just has a kind of regional flavor and that's obviously a decision you make right at the beginning impulses works now we did it's it's tricky to sit at a computer we went to Lombok in Indonesia for a couple of weeks early on that was beautiful in wearing the room together but then when the writing starts it's a little bit of and I've had that experience before car ride with other people who I knew were going to direct you going to have to Mike the thing I understand I don't want to argue with I'm just GonNa step back by love karate especially when you know someone is beautiful as jaw of this strange abstract challenge of this feels like in two hours plus movie as it is but was there a longer version at one point did you have want for the fact that Joel character and I'm full stuff is purely shakespearian minute but it was it was quite refined I I'm quite surprised is three the first assemblies are yeah they're always bloated into the beginning of the project two thousand thirteen you were talking about the the themes in the movie and engined I would say has the way the world has changed over the last few years to that change your approach to the movie much as it is UNEMOTIONAL Journey Hal himself it's moving to a certain the universe the better and for worse you know I think they takes in check during their yeah it's a kind of a George W. n. a. and then Obama Administration was it's just interesting to think about how films become timely overtime need right now is predicting ten minutes in the future I know it's funny it's the I had the same I've been working on it for a while but now it's suddenly relevant it's been relevant for fifteen years um absolutely and one question for the David I believe was eight minutes it was ten minutes twelve minutes and just I'm fascinated hey who's timing and be what's it like being on the does everyone get this all the movies at Venice get standing ovation the one jerk that's still sitting doesn't yeah untested Davis been an absolute pleasure talking to you thanks so much thank you for having me all right so let's David me show interesting award which I think is is worth talking about so the pilot TV podcast oh good off their proposed star wars trilogy and their party too busy Kathleen Kennedy's statement about it which says pays tribute to them is incredible storytellers a bit to me let's be possible salty sure yeah yeah okay so so the theory was that we thought honestly don't it might be wishful thinking yes I'm I'm really intrigued I don't know I don't know what who knows who knows but you know four panel discussing their their work on game of thrones earliest stages of the the first pilot in fact from their from their pitch onwards showing a certain amount of reflection and consideration I think what the Internet jumped on the and even when things didn't work and even where they had the wrong priorities or whatever else they've been rescued you just wiped quite hard the the strength of the jumping does that make sense quite entirely warranted no I yeah I think it was basically to show runners appointment again I have to come at this from the point of view of someone who's seen the three episodes of the game of and they obviously chose Benny off a wise as sort of culprits for so that's okay but I think the problem with the game of thrones finale and I may have said this on the owns his entire ethos has been I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that the other person that's been the whole show up until now the whole show has been you don't trying to reach a conclusion so by the nature of trying to come to a conclusion they were oh so I have some sympathy with them but at the same time absolutely and I think that's also throw into sharp relief by the other news this week that came from the game of thrones and Northern Ireland where it was put on film and shot and that an amazing cast as well a news came this week that like the first pilot outdone instead is they have announced a second pilot which has gone directly to I believe in novel or series of novels but the Tar Sar Gary and Family Guy and game of thrones so my question is why isn't Jane Goldman get a do over levels but it is based on a door Dr Martin Story Okay Yeah and dragons I think or or maybe they're sort of decline a little bit as well so it's Greider and I'm I'm kind of bummed that we don't get see what she was working on a yeah very much so she's amazing why not on the best writers in the business but this new one house the Dragon's going to be overseen is that George Martin is in the words of Neil Gaiman not my bitch but at the same time and of course Maguelonne Nick as well who directed many of the key episodes game of thrones I was told because I think by large sequels are are on your we're Iron Alton goose with game of thrones I know that whenever you do that it it a prequel route yeah sequel fine I'm a mumble that and this and is better call Saul which is also pre is not to say the prequels count work began they can the door open your trap yes one of his many japes on twitter but no it was a joke about a piece of gasoline off-broadway show created by Jonathan Larson the playwright best known of course for struggling to kind of get his breakthrough seen and heard and wondering if he made the so so yeah so it's it's going to be exciting I think I mean under Garfield you have to say I was like what's happening why is this happening but thought I could get him on the show and it worked so but he's also of course it's been a couple of as with this as well yes we we like Andrew Garfield I'm familiar with the work of there's nothing nickname linney money anyway he's going to be in his dark materials than you series which starts you spoke to make a great TV show I think we've been more space to kind of play with the format indeed I'm okay we'll actually be involved in a Special focus called his darker from adware stripped while they're both from the street but yeah we're going to go week by week and discuss a podcast where I will be going week by week through his dark materials how were where's my invitation last basically would you like to come on you're very lucky I can tell in like we're doing film news herald just talking about what you staying in this spare time Philo say this maybe the quality threshold isn't quite there in terms of evaluating his scripts he we I think it it sounds it recalls oversee westworld and it also makes really makes me think of is that community episode where Abed Start Studying Nicholas Cage you remember that today because you know it just felt like that kind of a day and also because I saw Sharon cancer last week movies she did one the songs from burlesque she did all the hits except I'm back time and they had a big visual behind her of battleship you know it was just perfect and she did it with a video clip it was in Nicholas Cage Zoo yes not not may nine so I don't know is the answer I love monkeys amazing I love how much he just goes a reboot of pirates of the Caribbean maybe GonNa Take Dark Documentari- sir can hey sir I want to make that clear given the James isn't hairs a blather on about nation breathes sheer so we'll want to buy our tickets for that because Tequila mockingbird is great and he's great so are which is kind of interesting there's a weird lack of this January first he stopped the making comic book movies there was there was a claim from Todd Phillips that Schnatter because the joker sport a special is finally up it action might have been a good thing because that would have made it other alive another Ah shut it down now anyway it's up there and is really interesting is the Tulsa Ah we have right in front of us because I was in that chair it mere minutes before you walked ask CBS Jab Jab J.J. Abrams j.j Abrams Soon Ah Daniels assigned to Kobe will be giving away in gold naturally of that special which will be up next week and I have to figure that out because we don't tend to be competition to the PODCAST and Kazeem isn't sale now and we're very very excited about why it's then I ended up reading the whole thing isn't it yeah it was good but it's a preview issue so radio we've got well well well well we have the first word erectile dysfunction well gentlemen surprising but it's an interesting direction for the series to take in but I don't know if it's too late for the people who hand up Pulitzer's to Sir that then we have also thank you oh last night in Soho certain what's the basic story and in this month's issue you will find out Louis so that's in there as well there's tons of great stuff inside the issue Greta Gerwig this they should do a facial expression because then I'm not embargoed ailing smile is reaching the is the smile thumbs up two thumbs up now they're being waived around we've owned a jumping the gun slightly and it sounds amazing women sounds amazing so Mike says she there it when he says she there he means Greta Gerwig Elisa handsome people in the issue I mean we've mentioned quite a lot of handsome and beautiful people so far but you're right my picture story so there's quite a lot of quite hot people in there yes we do Jay Hawk and Richard Linklater so many no no but he opened up the archives and shows as never before seen photographs in the spoilers with empire this month and the reason that they also got their own preview and I'm sure that's very nice and everything no I have not written a piece for pilot you haven't been officially invited I'm sure I just haven't checked Colin all good and evil needs agents and wherever it is you get your digital stuff digital news studio head recotor subject of the kid stays in the I guess is the way it goes sometimes but yeah he he was an astonishing figure in Hollywood kind of started as an actor and he got some pretty minor roles for he produced films like the detective paint your wagon Rosemary's baby the great gatsby any beautiful women yes he'd seven ex wives paramount and he he oversaw the Godfather and tales of his you as well I think reputation and after that he produced like Chinatown as `and alike and he was the life and soul of the Party and he was influential and response him and he and he knew him on they spoke very highly of him and his impact and best this week let's do it and if I look at the guest Tombola I see that there's only one name in there uh-huh I believe after that but Shanley girl really is there one theory it's one of my favorite my sister's favorite film film it's a good film when don't think she's been anything that was Alan Thicke also Felicity Jones was in there you can the theory of everything that's where she first appeared alongside Eddie read main wars and they it sounds. NFL Miss Out Monday we'll be talking about it in the Review Section starts by Tom Harper good my car crash but here we go those Jones she's awesome inferiors awesome enjoyed oh good no big fan of empires stay happy to be back on you a big fan of podcasts you have do I actually get hold of a podcast because every time someone's eight this is a great class and I say how does love type in empire so we're still at the airports I what I loved about the film is that it is set in you know in the post just so caring about their survival and your Amelia Ren tell us Amelia rent so rinat she was a French aeronautic and she was one of the first woman to fly solo and she used to this show on the person exactly that that came from the Blanchard or it out and and sell tickets and so the beginning of the film that's Amelia's doing UC's had you ever been in a hot air balloon no I never before and it was one of those things I always yeah and then the landings are Harry you never get the scent of course you as beautiful than airy us is very peaceful it's not like a hot air balloon where you have that the sound of the of bottlers champagne and you'll have a nice glass champagne when you're up there really lovely but then nothing prepares you for it you kind of just I mean the pilot shouts hold on and you just hold challenges well it's one of the most grueling parts of ever had and and but that was sort of where I got the appetite really for doing another action film was from playing yeah so your pets with red again after theory everything when here I think you do I think you you cut out all the polite stuff in you don't tiptoe during theory of everything we then felt like he was safe with each other and that we it was it was it was interesting in the way Erin which was very is to each other films but they're both about exploring extremes how would you talk about Oh you know you just have to smoke fast yeah and when you're on set so we always have a good old sort of gossip and character one thing I thought was refreshing about the film in any way a romantic relationship one point you might not see it okay in in the film but I think there is a I think lost but I'm softy I hope that they do get together eventually the end the ball skit when they take off and because there was throughout sheeting did it just didn't feel right thank the case kept going in and out apparently of it a woman kind of finding away in society that's melt dominated is is very and I think that interestingly is coming from men and women that list is to do what she loves doing she is having to reject a lot of war onto sitting in this little drawing room environment and you realize what it has taken in the beginning of your career when you started what is your kind of experiences thing that I do overnight so it was a real struggle years I used to hate it and sometimes you'd get sent I just thought you know what I'm GonNa Learn to scenes in London as best they can I think there's a lot of just being terribly embarrassed being an actor and you have to you have as she was in this witch prison you just feel like an lucky that casting directors took a punt on me they're the people who you know I think so actually and it's it's it's a strange thing because when you know for certain things you don't have now what you're GonNa do a little bit and actually does give you a lot of confidence you definitely axes coming -CREMENTO isn't it is but it's interesting I feel that you take go from eighteen and we'd sort of talk about it's about something popping and it Morrissey over the decisions that you're making so but in the Eilly days you're just trying anything who filmed the extension let's just wanted can you make a small I think you should have you can sometimes get a little bit too disc's though I think the more you can the more the older you get the more you extend bogus in some ways view star wars reinvention was net was being I looked at the end of that scale but not the right part and so do something of that of that scale because at the same time doing things on that size it helps you I guess since the foam come out the stories about how the director was replaced there was that just you know the enormous is so many people involved they aw on we were able to make it all mace like like an independent film DNA is I think what makes the foam so wonderful yeah uh-huh yeah it's sort of funny to think about that side bintu conventions and it's always thrilling I mean star was is a religion that so you so whenever I have been involved in those events where would you go to Charlotte that's always on TV time making something it's actually rub it was called to come having digging it was setting off Cher was in Australia it was yes we we shot it theories are in San Antonio well I thought when I went back a year like I was trying to ice skate or something I couldn't stand up for more than two seconds I kept before but I've seen you visit to inferno straight by that no my call I remember running around we've running around flagging that's the the hills know exactly exactly why willingly sky funding shooting night in January okay can we think about yeah it's going to be amazing directing it and we'll say starring in it and an EMT and Should we talk about the aeronautics I haven't seen it yet individually or together and this is an interesting bit of history so you make informed predictions about what the weather might be like and so he's trying to convince the scientific community that uh-huh you know eight thousand meters above the ground kind of thing and that's the setup so she has obviously dealing with this desperate need to prove himself improve his theories on the film flooring basically and kind of pioneering and they have to deal with various problems mostly a two flashback to walk them they're almost all of those things are a bit boring to the kind of the excitement of the hot air balloon and I can understand why they did it because you know it's birds but that's about it so there there's not enough there to feel like they they have a film you will find that red means character was well over fifty and already president of white three I feel like the real person maybe could have done with it's not like it's a composite character that you can turn into women it's a specific but Anyway so I wasn't I wasn't a huge fan but I do and he thought it was well nice and gave it four stars I mean is well Nice I will give him today on. Netflix has been out inverness around the country in select cinemas for the last couple of weeks as let me completely by surprise I thought it was out in November so dominant is my name which is and he certainly been doing the rounds for its and he's been back on the interview circuit for the first time eight of build up of a release then just kind of what's out here you go here you go and how he ended up making a series of blaxploitation flicks really really good at slightly absurd bio-pics man in the the basic setup I've said to ready is fantastic very very funny yeah what did you I his bones and and it felt like I could see the the influence of of really nought without a bit of bite to it just in the sense of a group a little bit slow paced I will say I think not so that rushes into its story fi is there cinematographer Golden Mikey he can Michael Kay my God really really good people everybody should come on his first year rated good luck to you if you knew that came out because it was again it was hey guys churches out before last if you have to go back and just going to quickly look at Eddie Murphy which I've somehow managed Bus Let me see so DOLEMITE has been Mr Church three years before Latte then he it was also kind of dumped a little bit yeah a little bit although it's quite charming and the point is not two thousand seventeen point is he hasn't been a lot of films recent years right now an also an ethics right now is the king yes so this is kind of the Henry the it was factual and put in some made up so it's a little bit of a mixed bag this he

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Best Of (Chiefs/Raiders, 49ers/Ravens, Packers/Giants, Patriots/Texans)

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Best Of (Chiefs/Raiders, 49ers/Ravens, Packers/Giants, Patriots/Texans)

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You know you you could be from you so you don't have to even be from the continental United States our friends stink from Alaska. And you know that however flawed you think the chiefs may be. Here's one thing they don't do last S. five years premiums just under any read lose to divisional opponents last twenty six games against the AFC west twenty four and two those two losses losses both one point losses both after very questionable pass interference goals in the end zone in the final ten seconds football games. They have run this division more. The Patriots have won the AFC East run the AFC east over the last five years they have the best individual record or the last five years of anybody. There already went to Oakland. Played One quarter. Nothing quarter they. Got mahomes threw four touchdown passes in the second quarter hosted home and Oakland. Oakland meant if Oakland was a team to be feared you cannot let what happened last week against Barnes beloved New York jets speaking homers jets Ashrawi. Beat you like the raiders. Had A really golden opportunity. Here if they had beaten the jets they would be seven. Four can't city to be seven and four for you would be coming into the game with a chance to take the lead in the AFC west for the first time at any point in the season. And I think five years four years since the year we're car car broke his leg at the end of the year. And instead you fell on your face against the jet so I know the chiefs weren't overly impressive in Mexico City. They're coming off a bye. I it's the healthiest they've been all year long and that to me is the key to can't sit if they are going to be a contender. We I think mahomes and Tyreek Hill have been on the field together. Her for seven and a half quarters all year they lost left. Tackle very early in the year finally got him back. This is the healthiest version. The chiefs are going to see so no. I don't think the chiefs should be upset. Lert at all this weekend but they should make sure they go in there with a healthy respect for the raiders. Because just because you dominated a team before doesn't mean that you Dominate him again. And we all know. Andy Reed's record coming off a bye. He's damn near unbeatable. But if it is one shot one glimmer of hope. I believe for the raiders. There's going to be Josh Jacobs. It'll keep in keeping on the homes and off the field and play the key away game and just trying to move the ball wintertime. The time of possession but it's going to be incompetent on Derek Carr to make sure that he's able to get seven instead of three which is hard to do and They've played well in spurts. Stay getting out. Got Out too fast. I believe that game. They're out to attend Ali before Kansas City came in you know smack them around a little bit but this defense for Kansas City is still unproven. They're getting better. Jones came back but I just believe that you can have a shot if they can turn the ball over get extra possessions but even with that to myself. Yeah the the listen. Josh Jacobs would have in Joshua Guzman excellent. And if it wasn't for what Kyle is doing. He might be the a favorite for offensive rookie of the year. He's going to have to have his best game of the season. And you're going to have to turn mahomes over and you're going to have to take that arrowhead crowd out of it early which is damn near impossible in the game against their biggest rival. I just this on. This is not because this is the city where I'm from. This is a bad match up for Oakland. It's been a bad mantra. Entre proclivity for five years and the raiders is not just the AFC west that they might have left on the table last week against the jets. It's the chance to be a really surprising. Good Story of being a playoff team by getting at six that final wildcard spot out of the AFC. They they should be seven and four instead. They're six and five. They'RE GONNA leave this game six and six saying what what happened to our season that quickly I would be shocked. If can't Sydney loses this football game. Like the more shocked than I was against Tennessee because Tennessee and they had Tennessee beep before they blew it at the end. Tennessee to me has more ways to beat you. Especially since they went to Tannehill fin the raiders. Do Right now. We've seemingly abandoned Patrick Mahomes as an MVP candidate. Just because of what Lamar's doing and the consistent play Russell Wilson and obviously Patrick Mahomes was hurt. And we're not really talking about the chiefs right now. Because they had a couple of flubs especially what happened in in Mexico but this Kansas City team I ah I know that Bart is probably not as high on them as you are right now. But he's still the same faith and then I expect to see from patrimony now. Good they usually are coming off a revived bid. You expect them to come now and throw it all out there. Finally having to kill back out there I expect them to come on and like the scoreboard up. I expect them to come on and look like the best offense in the League but the problem with Kansas City when you such a dynamic team that can put up point. They can't they can't solve the game away and that's what concerns me the fact that they don't have a power running game that when they go about three scores game over where they can go on these eight to ten play drives because what happens is much. He throws the ball if they're incomplete stops o'clock and then allows his defense defense get back on the field and it gets exposed. That's my biggest concern for them is the fact that they don't have a power running game they don't have somebody like the gear blunt. Somebody that can come Amana fall four for three and a half yards and be able to Solta game away and that's GonNa come back to bite them especially when you talk about playing. In November December January the the elements play a big role. In how how far. The ball traveled as far as punts kickoffs field goal attempts and things that Kansas City has lost the right to feel like take that. There's any game and so I guess Raider game included that there are shoeing guaranteed to win because they they fell flat on their face against. Indy indies. A decent team the Houston beat them and then the Tennessee game is really alarming because they just needed to salted away to your point with that said there is not a team in the league. Take that plays the chiefs and feels good about it. There's not a team in the league that looks at the chiefs and says Oh we we got this one because the chiefs offense still win. Fully functional fully healthy is the best offense in football by a mile like the they are top three often. Statistically this year Patrick Mahomes owns is played. Four healthy games. The whole season tyreek Hill missed the first I after week two. He missed the first week one and a half. I guess he missed. It's the first six weeks of the year after that and they are still putting up those types of pointedly to say no latest safe and there is no team. They can't beat they've shown there's a lot of teams they can lose was to which was different than last year. But this is still a team that I I don't know your opinion would shock you if they came out of the AFC because they've already beaten Baltimore and you you can tell the pressure that just the threat of knowing how powered this offense is Baltimore winning. They did things uncharacteristic going forward on fourth down every time every time in their air territory and scoring territory said taking three. Because you know that three won't allow you to beat the Kansas City chiefs because they're so dynamic that incident blink of an eye they can score gorge to three play drives listen. They're one of the their seven teams in the League that are viable Super Bowl. Contenders the chiefs are one of those teams. The raiders are not. I think that will show show up Sunday afternoon back here. I think I am joined by Super Bowl Champ. LEX verse. Welcome to the show is not doing this morning and nobody wants to work Thanksgiving visit. Does Turkey cold we never slave are plus. Let's dive into the biggest game of the weekend. It's the ten in one forty niners against the nine into Baltimore Ravens. It's on it's on Fox. Both teams posting their most valued weapons. There's four the Ravens Lamar Jackson now time for the most passing touchdowns in the NFL and these ninth in the league in rushing yards the niners. They're holding opponents to less than two hundred and fifty yards per game that is best in the NFL. But how will the defense stop. The unstoppable Jackson. Here's San Francisco's head coach Shannon. He's different in that he's just He's running back when he has a ball. You know where the other two guys they can make a lot of a lot of plays with their legs and stuff but of eventually they're they're going to slide and things like that this this guy. He is running back out there and a quarterback when he's throwing but now he can run hard. You've got to bring them down So he can take the hits and he also can deliver the big compliment to Lamar Jackson. The other two guys. Obviously Kyle Russell Wilson that he's referring to there so who who do think has the edge Lamar or the San Francisco. Forty niners defense. Jackson has as because he he's going to keep the demons on the toes. this this office is really the first time when somebody's these defensive coordinator the sanders offense so you know they have the on defense. You can't really scheme it you have to go out and react because we say for the first time is explosive and nobody has really found a way to contain him. He's basically a a map of match up nightmare for defense because was he does on defenses. If the office brings in two or three tight ends using the defense stays as and base. Stay base. It is you don't have enough guys that are fastened to contain them. And you know he's just a match you you feel like most people associate you and you WanNa Championship with the giants. But you're thirteen on a free steeler team with Cordell Stewart right to play. Look at how much of what you see the Ravens with Lamar. Remind you of what you guys were doing. A little over a decade ago in that offense and how much problems that presented defenses is really a different kind of style often. Because I'll play the now formation offense and you heads Rome bet is in the backfield. You knew that he was getting the the ball thirty times. This office is is nothing like the Pittsburgh steelers. When I say plano too you know you just have the kind of Seattle to fly? I think the best swayed to contain his office. And Lamar Jackson is basically on Koa too and if he gets out on as at least you have some corner thing. Come come and make some plays. But but if you play man-to-man Chinaman him. And he turned and the deficit back. Turn back up to the wide receivers. He gets out of the pocket. I'll be before the defense recognize it. He's twenty thousand dollars now feel the only thing they can do is take away to rush lanes and thrown lays in the middle of one. We used to play Michael Vick where we used to do. Is We always give him a predictable out right so we would take all our stuff inside gaps. Flush him to one side where we can get our athletes on where he's going. The problem is if you just go up the field he can come step through through the lane. With four four men rushing you know you got four rushing got to tidy as old allies so now they have six lanes and six options for forgot where he's going to go so if you have a spy spies. LSI He can exit onto the right side so despise and even helping the problem. Is I remember when the wildcat came and took over the NFL and nobody knew how to respond to it. Because for the first time it was eleven on eleven using when you go against the team. It's eleven ten because the quarterback hands the ball off and he's dead for the play but now they've come up with so many different formations formations. They got no gun pistol. You Know Jumbo package. And they're spreading among the. What makes it a problem? Is there tight ends or viable receivers. They're great receiver. So if you come up there like plex sale heavy package. They'll break the formation. So now you gotTa linebackers say the one on one on an island with a pass catching tight in. And Lamar Jackson has improved the self since what. We saw the charges due to them last year. I mean he's more accurate mayor right there. Hollywood Brown is really made them dynamic because you have to keep a safety Dan here over the top of him because he stretches to fill it opens entire plainfield open. Listen we're all give the Ravens. Immense credit is not only did they go all in on Lamar despite the playoff golf game but they built their team with his exact skill set in mind not only getting marking room but titans that they know can block and be big pass catchers tour's instead of targeting for example you know what I mean we need a number. You big don't fit. Our doesn't fit exactly what they're trying to do. Even Odell is a higher level player than the guys they brought in because of the versatility the titans ad so I and that's been a huge part of their success and Lamar success. Thus far this season the reason I think San Francisco has the edges because San Francisco can create pressure with just those four guys to answer problem. Like when you say that just like when Michael Vick was in the League he holds. Does your backside defenseman. He can't flatten out because people it is barbecue chicken and also known. Does he hold the defense event. He holds the backside linebacker because because the backside linebacker fee keeps it. You don't want to put one defensive end in space. He'll circle of defense when he gets that. It's explosive offense. See the problem. Is You have to predict say in the best chance they have is like the Ravens Cabinet in the Super Bowl. Hit him every play. We're going to give up. Big Yard is just to make sure is not a home run and see when we get him down. I'm not I said. Do not dirty but make sure you land if you gotta give if you gotTa get a couple body weight Penalties then take the body way penalties. But we're GONNA make them have the play left handed game game plan. Lamar more I throwing for his running. You have to go out and defeat Defend both because he's a quarterback I and he he makes their statement weekend and we got. He's looking at the football You wants to do what he wants to football in the game last week against the charge. I guess around I saw last move a few times that they were trying to spy with the Middle Linebacker. And what that does is win is little Lamar's in a pocket and he's not getting out of the pocket. Now you lose a man in coverage so now so now if you're in a four man front unit got six guys in coverage and you got to allow the middle outback. Two just Dan in space and killing young. And he's completed a touchdown and is spying Lamar especially with the linebackers. been a fool's errand all year for the Rangers are the limitations in coverage but also because he's a better athlete than whoever the hell you're middle linebacker. He's going to be faster than him is exactly right so so. That's just a wasted body like the that is not the the there are certain mobile quarterbacks that spying makes a Lotta sense with you you could argue hell. The Guy we saw yesterday against the cowboys Josh. Josh Gallon challenge a good athlete. But you're middle linebacker. If he's a good athlete should be able to match speed with him. Russell spying in makes spying. Lamar is not going to be the way to beat him. That makes does and I agree with you. He Does WanNa throw the ball and he is improved immensely throwing the football but where he terrifies teams right now is with his legs and that Ravens running game which opens up the passing game. What's incumbent on? The niners is taking that away. I and if he beats you the way he beat Miami in week one by throwing the ball all all over the field. Then you tip your cap if he can throw the ball like that against a really good defense then the there is no answer. Form terrifies me. Jimmy G. Thrown into tight windows against that elite defense. That have a bunch of ball hawks then only when they get it in their hands they taken it to the house making house calls. Also you gotta give off the line From Baltimore a lot of credit. Because I don't think we've seen office align neutralize Aaron Donald the way they did I mean they basically weekly neutralize Aaron Donald and they had in line scrimmage on line of Scrimmage Clay Matthews and majors he didn't know what was they are now on Aaron Rodgers and the packers trying to right the ship after getting destroyed by the forty niners and we twelve lucky. Give them a head. Sunday's matchup against the two nine giants tell the giants that but Aaron Rodgers knows. It's on him to turn things around. Take a listen sick writer. Mix where we WANNA be on playing meaniful dams and in December. But I think we got a little bit better for everyone gets. It's were long ago. This team is obviously Lonzo's source for the more they're McKee is for us. His upset stay healthy. We play a little bit better on on all three phases offensively to leave December here we will start to find ways to get guys nick from what you've seen at Aaron Rodgers this season you expect him to suddenly get hot and make a a super bowl. Ron I think they have fully can. They were my super bowl. Pick and through eleven weeks. I had hoped they'd be nine in two. They are in three a going into the game last week. In San Francisco I obviously foolishly believed. They could win not only did they. Not when they got it and I still believe they can make a super bowl run. I think they have through. Avoid San Francisco on their path. They they've got a bully that they can't beat up but there's another kid on the block that maybe can and they may be that kid up so they need that guy to take care of their air guy and then they try to take care of him so but the question about Rogers is the incumbent one because era turns thirty six years old and a couple of days and we have been much like the the example. I've used is Carmelo. Anthony and Dwayne Wade were may be led astray a bit by how Great Great Lebron was in years. Fourteen fifteen sixteen seventeen chains what. They're realistic expectations of where they should be should have been in their careers. Those years. Tom Brady winning an MVP at age forty drew brees was nearly winning MVP last year. I believe at age. Thirty nine changed all of our or expectation. Pardon me all of our expectations for how good quarterbacks are going to be in their late thirties. been around this burgers elbow popped manning got benched inched. Philip rivers is clearly on his way out Aaron Rodgers just a couple draft classes behind those guys right now. He didn't start a few years until I think he's fresher and I don't think he is that close to the end but is he still in his prime when they made the coaching change bar. We said you've got to make the most that you have of Aaron Rodgers prime you gotta make the most of what's left of it yeah. Is there any left of it. I think there is. I think he's shows over. The rest is the season they. They're going to be favored in four of their final. Five games the only game will be underdogs at Minnesota a team. They've already beaten but Aaron Rodgers played very well this year he needs to. You played great. If they're gonNA offset some of their deficiencies in run defense some of their other deficiencies on the team. If they're going to compete with the team as complete as New Orleans. If they're we're GONNA ANY CHANCE TO UPSET San Francisco if they play them again so I still think they can. I'M NOT GONNA Change Right Super Bowl. Pick but the reason I picked them was because I thought Aaron Rodgers will be league. MVP this year. He hasn't played quite to that level. He needs to over the final third of the season. See I pick green bay to to represent the NFC superbowl as well and it was. Because I thought that finally only they're doing something to preserve his prime right. We saw you talk about Tom. Brady well what did they do. Gama running game and we all kind of blink dieted that they brought in Sony Michelle they went out and got left tackle and Isaiah win and then also we witnessed is with drew brees as well so now we're in an era of low management. So what did they essentially do for Rod. This year they gave him low management game defense. Oh he didn't have to put it all in shoulders. They game or running game and a Aaron Jones that can you know all he has to do is turn around hand the ball all off and all he has to do is be special spurts so is air. Rod is still capable of been a elite. MVP caliber quarterback. Of course he can. I feel like they finally put a team that can complement. You know what he does and also a game a defense where it is not all on him for Sixteen Games. He'll become superman demand again. I believe in the playoffs when he put yourself at risk. He's been injured the last couple of years. He's finally healthy because they're protecting him with what makes me think he could be that. MVP caliber kind of quarterback back again. Because he doesn't have to do it consistently right. We saw drew brees last year trying to do too much. He got a tired arm and he he could throw the ball in the playoffs. He Still Aaron Rodgers. He's still can buy time with this with He. Still Does the little things at all. Great quarterbacks do changes really met the line of scrimmage great hard cow catch you change personnels getting free free place cheap place no. It's not always about the physical part is about. When these quarterbacks get to that jet I type of mindset is when the body of mine meats and that's what makes him so well difficult because they do the different things? They're football accurate. His football. I Q is so high and you know it's just like you said the bully beat the bully. They can't beat San Francisco because just stylistically is not a great matchup but they can beat New Orleans. WHO's not as physical newer on New Orleans? Battle could beat exactly then they can beat their are capable. Beat knows team so we always have that one team. This bad matchup force as twenty. The good thing is there's only one and not the rest of the NFC slash the NFL. And lastly the other the reason that I believe in the packers Rogers ability to be the guy who was a few years ago is when we talk about quarterbacks not having a bunch of weapons like with Brady we've talked. Dwelt that if you're a great quarterback and your weapons are limited. You become a very good quarterback that's what's happened to Rogers remember. Davante Adams was out for six weeks and his numbers are very good but not great. They didn't fall off a cliff. He's now going to have them his full complement of weapons. You would think moving forward that should help them on. And a Siphon at Niner game he does such a great job of not turning the ball over only two interceptions on the year. Lost that bomb. We'll get the niners that's always going to keep them alive late in these games. Jeremy Gram he's got to be borderline to be word. No He's got to be better. debuted better with jared cook nickless cut to the chase who you got this. One Patriots Texan watching this game for too long New England patriots. The Houston Texans doesn't matter what year it is done right arm which optimism. They got remember the year the Texans were. I think the last remaining undefeated team they got all those fancy letterman jackets for nationally televised game knowing them than whooped them and took the one seabright from him or Al about to show him Watson his rookie season. I think it was early in the year. Right after three takes over the starting job drives down the field to win the football game against New England. All you gotTa do is hold Brady for sixty seconds. Note Brandin cooks corner of the end zone touchdown. Good night good. Luck luck or the playoff games where the Texans have been embarrassed by the New England patriots. They can't beat these guys and they certainly can't beat this team with this defense this year. You're right Gina. I do not believe the Patriots have an elite offense I do not believe the Patriots and twenty nineteen even have an above average passing game. But they don't need it in this football game name. The Texans Defense by the way thirty first on third down thirty second in the red zone two spots that. Just kill you against a team that is as buttoned up as new wing land. So for all those reasons I would be and I'm more down on the Patriots than almost anybody still taking the patient. I would be shocked if the Texans able to win this game. I wouldn't be shot but I don't. They were were really worried about Tom. Brady's elbow I mean time after time we think Tom Brady's down he comes back and everybody wrong. I mean he's been doing that for twenty years. Now Yeah but I put D. Shawn Watson in in the elite quarterback class. I believe that he's elite. But if you want to be one of the best I think thank you have to prove to yourself. Improvements teammates improvement to your organization. And you you have which I think. Who who is the best while receiving all of Football Indiana the Hopkins? If you WANNA be elite. You have to be the best and as Tom Brady so I think I think I think that they can go out. And beat the New England Patriots. This is not going to be easy but I think that it can get it done. Let Me Foxborough quick. We saw Stefan Gilmore a race Amari cooper a week ago scholarly. Take him out of the game. Is You had a lot of these matchups top receiver top corner. I thought Troy Aikman during the broadcast. Last week. Said some really interesting. He's like like this reminds me of Michael Versus Dion where this was before we knew amaury was gonNA get a race. He said we're going to throw it to him. He's going to win something he's GonNa lose some guy's GonNa win some. He's went when some. How can this show on have more success than Amari data and like what does it remind you of? WH- guys you went up against that. You knew you were going to have your work cut out for you all day long a Ah I just think that You know from attacking the ball standpoint and going and going on attacking the highest point. I just just believe that John. Jay Hawk is better football player. He's I bet he's a better athlete. He he beats man and man covers a lot of scrimmage. He separates wealth and on top of the route. And you know he has that mentality that you know. He's a dog Y.. Received receive you know He. He's not just one of those guys. Catch the ball and just slide on the ground and go out of bounds he he. He has a dog mentality and and he's showing US assist they once this is he got into the NFL He's a big time competitor and he takes it personal when teams come up impressment. The line of swim. It's which everywhere I received would Should but to what's more Kupa go up against long you're more or less Last weekend get shut out from I mean for for me That would never happen but I saw happening. But I do think that John Hopkins is the best way I received before you look at the Andrew Hopkins and look at you know just body Tightwad. The difference between him and Cooper. He's he has a greater catch raters and he's not one of these guys that depends on the Yak out the guy that catches the ball down to fill. He'll give you yeah but he does have the dog you've seen you know when they've had these joint practices him getting in fights and embarking back and forth and also I think the difference is designed watching is willing to give this guy a chance Dax not a guy that is willing to give his guy chance he saw him cover. You didn't give him a fifty fifty ball. Deandre hops made his entire career a winning the fifty the defeat boss because he doesn't have at least separation he does have leaked speed. So guys are going to try and challenge them. At the line of scrimmage which I think Gilmore can do but it could also bikes you because Ah me planned with plex knowing that sometimes by his chest and they try and bully bully bully because if you miss or you get physical at the point of attack then those are big. Plays Down to fill one of the issues for the Texans. In this specific game I think is the Patriots such a great job of keeping everything in front of him not allowing the big play and I think to show Watson and will win a league. MVP One day. I think he is. He is a great football player. Right now he has to bugaboos. One is turn the ball over a little too much and the other is he seems to at times be more accurate on the deeper throws the little shorter intermediate Rodeo. Like the the easier passes at times. He's not as is precise with. That's always going to have new England right. They're not GonNa let De'andre Hopkins get over the talks. Here's the difference right because this debate king you WanNa talk about this debate bank eight Intermediate Fifteen Yard Bang Eight Watson make. DM Poor both his hamstring's on the same play against the Ravens Right. So when you think about the De'andre Hopkins because he's Kinda Intermediate fifteen twenty yard guy but they have fuller and steals they can run no safeties off and you have to respect them. That's where you get the bang. Eight or data eight is tight. Post seven step pulse or you can go with the ten to twelve yard Dick after everybody clears out which gives you opportunity looney. The put Gilmore his back and because he's so fiscal because he's so big he can put him on his back and still have that catch radius because he's a little taller than Gilmore. So I mean I think this is GONNA be battle is strategically. I think that it can cause some problems for that. Great you know defense. Because they have those two elite nail have one they have to Shinawatra's essentially this is is going to run the top of the defense off if you take all the players out of it talk about the coaching discrepancy mean. Where would you even put a guy like bill? O'Brien up against a guy like bill belichick or do as a player it does that factor into it when you get ready to take effect because You know I played against New England. Patient went to anybody an a- An NFL One thing about Bill Belichick is that he's GonNa Take He. He's he's going to take everything away that you do. Well I played them six or seven. I've been times and you're going to see something different every time that you play some defensively and I think I believe that he's GonNa Show de Shawn Watson something different that he hasn't the scene off season and the and the Houston Texas are going to have to make adjustments on the fly when you go when you go make adjustments on the fly. It just made me too late. The New England patriots. Get up two touchdowns Houston Texans will be. That's what we always say. The bill comes any takes away your weakness and that's how they ended up. Thank you for listening. To the first thing Spurs podcasts. Remember leave us a review. Tell us what you think. Subscribe to the podcast on Apple podcasts and catch us on F s one Monday through Friday. Six Thirty A._M. Easter.

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Mad Money w/Jim Cramer 10/03/19

MAD MONEY W/ JIM CRAMER

46:26 min | 11 months ago

Mad Money w/Jim Cramer 10/03/19

"It's Peter King hosted the aptly named Peter King podcast dropping every Wednesday. I chat with big football people now. I've added a second mini dropping Monday mornings capsizing my football morning in America Column Listen. My mission is simple to make you money I'm here to level the playing field all investors. There's always more work in summer now and I promised to help you find money starts now Pam GonNa make money remark or do you want to make friends just trying to get some money by job. A census thirteenth educate teach you put in in context call me one eight hundred seven three. CBC or Tweet Me Jim Cramer. We've gotten so used so used to being off rate great that we've been selling stocks for days on end sell sell sell sell sell sell in part because we're worried the report not self-taught earnings that includes early this morning when the market got severely oversold before rebounding. Dow Closing up one hundred twenty two points. SNP gaining point eight percent Nasdaq eventually point one two percent. No one wants to own stock unless it can report what's known as bt a bt e meeting a better then expect you quarter. The jury of bt has cast a pall over this market but now they're earning season is actually arrived with pepsico kicking things off. Many stocks are down big from their highs and I'm starting to think that they fallen so far that bt is the wrong concern instead we looking for quarters that are not as bad as feared or Nablus and a bf for short yesterday. Wall Street was concerned that Pepsico would fill deliver better than expected numbers and the stock plunge from one hundred thirty seven down one hundred thirty three in change in in anticipation of that bad number after all PepsiCo missed. If there's any degradation frito lay if there was any market share lost coca-cola you had to leave the testing would get club like a baby seal but as turns out PepsiCo's results were not as bad as feared it was a nab of quarter with strong sales in both food and beverages while all the company didn't raise his forecast the stock it already been hit so hard going to report that this didn't really bother anyone and that is nabbed for certain gets better. It's better some of Pepsico's divisions are truly on fire Gatorade. Since returning to the old fabulous growth trajectory used to have now now through as products are being stepped up by millennials. There was a lot to like here two days ago. This quarter would have been a non event today. Sent pips goes surgeon to a new all-time high. Hi and that's not just because it was better than feared like I told you last night. When the market gets is oversold it can act like a quilt spring with stocks rallying beyond where you or not expect him the Go-to on good news so who else can deliver a Nabokov quarter. This is the list people get a pencil and paper out. This is a one list you need. I I suspect shaping more simple. JP reporting generally better than expected quarter next week fed funds rate may have been cut. EUCHRE may not be perfect but this is J. P. Morgan's moment the moment to shine banks gigantic deposits. It's usually advisory business plano credit lending they should all be very strong as banks generate more and more of the revenue from fees rather than from interest. I'm confident that we'll be able to raise numbers. Jamie Donald took talk about portraits down. She that would be much better than feared to. Maybe even forget Nabet. I'm betting this one offs ubt second unlike in the look of American Express in the stocks beneficiary adhere Steph one hundred twenty nine in July two one hundred twelve today. I don't think AMEX report a better than expected quarter but thanks to that excruciating decline doesn't a half to it only needs to be not as bad as feared the the rap. Here's that their businesses slow worldwide because of the trade where I'm skeptical burqas hasn't been able to crack into China in any meaningful way China's the epicenter of the worldwide. Wait this. Stephen worry worry well. He's pretty new to this. Business is self. effacing man is transforming American Express. I'm coming with a spotty episode of track record in Okapi the person's smooth booth numbers like the ones we come to expect from Mastercard Visa and it will get those again next up. There's Abbott Labs. ABT That's a medical device maker. If you watch the show for a while you know I'm a huge fan of miles white longtime. CEO WHO's created enormous amount of value for shareholders over the years. We've been buying added from my chapel. Trust you can follow all the it was before we make them by joining. The Action Plus Dot Com club we like avid I incredible consistency at the stock is down nearly nine percent from its high very rare to see that I think it's opportunity applesauce revolution new diabetes monitoring device that management about on the call best of all the medical device makers are the only part of the healthcare cohort been flying under Washington's Raider four speaking Washington the Democrats Republicans may be united in how they view the drug industry's repugnant but I still think there's one drug stock that you can buy right here after this to clients Merck. This company has tremendous momentum and it's reports on October. The stock doc is down about five points from its highs to me. It looks like a buying opportunity. I expect murked raises forecast rather dramatically thanks to the incredible growth of key trudeau their groundbreaking cancer drug drug. It's better than Nabokov what else here's a real nab. STARBUCKS starbucks report to the thirty so you got a little timer but it stock has been crushed. You can pulverize from ninety nine down to eighty four and that's thanks to excessive enthusiasm when it got to nine combined with a very odd one time shade down from early September that traders well this. They felt like Taber trump chumps. If they own the stock they've adopted it ever since maybe that makes sense when starbucks was trading in the nineties but at eighty four sorry. I think it's by don't forget they got that Nitro. Pills love the NITRO. I get sick to my stomach. Every time I have it. I mean honestly I could drink this better than nitro six facebook facebook. Can you believe it facebook and what am I thinking right. Here's one thinking even though the social media kingpin and Nice Wednesday still down dramatically from its highs and it's only takes one statement Komo one politician reverse today's rally as investors have rebelled against for and our government has started investigating all big tech well. This thing has become less toxic. I know the long knives our facebook. I'm not blind but honestly I think they benefit from the fact that they're no longer the only big tech company that's been targeted. Companies don't want Republican. I mean number one one else kind of public enemy number three or four depending upon the day that's encouraging delusion me mother users well guess what they love it that have been talked out of it by washing or newspapers that it attack menacingly. They don't care about that stuff including the call today from you turn general to limit encryption. Stop it already when you talk to the consumer packaged goods companies I do. They Adore facebook because it owns instagram and instagram's indispensable. If you're trying to reach new customers I facebook video program daily. I can tell tell you that the return on investment the Bank bucks speaks phenomenal. I think you'll have plenty of opportunities to buy the weekdays for reports on the theory. Even if we have an economic slowdown you stuff goes drugstore. That's why I like. CVS Charlie Victor go into quarter on November sick. Now the stocks from Cleveland Hires. We'll start warming up to its merger with that not plus. CVS suspending cash supports the three percent yield so they're paying for you to wait for what I bet. We'll be finally there's shop. Fi Yes yes. This is the ultimate empowerment story. A couple of thousands of people set up their own. E commerce sites every week. We hear from shop in three weeks. We sold this thing for action. Words about sixty points above love where it is right. Now I think you can sink your teeth in as it goes lower into another dip. Look there are dozens of other stocks that could work your stocks of high quality copies that have just been shelled. I don't know if the market's done going down. Although I think we saw an important moment of capitulation during this morning's breakdown but the Oslo you're still not as low as I'd like. Here's the bottom line. When the Labor Department releases its big employment number two. I bet there'll be some sellers to me. That's the perfect moment to pick up. Some of these novels names aims betting they'll the well not as bad as feared. How about we go to Bradley Illinois these Brad Good evening interested in value of Bantac earlier. They had failed buyout in broad comes back to the table. Non Pass Steal. Those are supposed to be a one time dividend of twelve dollars. Yeah just stick with it kills in charge there. I know he's temporary but rick is moneymaker and you're GONNA make money in it. I even twenty three. I want to stand there and buy stock how alley in Minnesota L. E. Hey Jim I just have a quick question in with regards to the future outlook of General Electric sure sounds good what's up. I noticed that the stock last year lost twenty two billion dollars. It's got one hundred eight billion in in debt and it's only got thirty five billion to pay cash. Do you think this'll be a stock that will go insolvent in the future or didn't uh no as a matter of fact I would say that Larry culpepper got the situation as bad as it is. Frankly under control twenty nine teams reset year twenty twenty. We'll be better the problem. Here is not Larry's doing and he is really cleaning things up so I don't Wanna bail. I do think there could be more. We do not want to bail. I'm going to Christian Nevada Christian. Hey how you doing. My question is. I'm currently down in my position sprint. Should I sell now or should I never you're on the wrong horse my friend. You need to be t mobile mobile with the deal without you got. John Leisure working for you and leisure is the bomb watch for stocks reporting not as bad as feared numbers Jason. Stop worrying about bt decline US week this to pick the ones that I've given you here tonight. College branch civilised easy reporting earnings say the portable festival estimate better than expected numbers but the stock still dropping feel like you need com- tailored for the move took the CEO then full time yeah all face it ugly sell them but the stock spinout they poker of late. So where should you stand with the Stop. I'm investigate and wild few days and the average is wondering how you position your portfolio. I'm here to help when we play. Eh diversified so stay with Kramer. Don't miss a second of mad money. Follow at Jim Cramer Humor on twitter. I have a question tweet. Gramer Hashtag Mad tweets send Jiminy mail to mad money at CNBC DOT COM or it gives us a call at one eight hundred seven four three CNBC. Something Ed Tha mad money dot C. N. B. C. dot com since eighteen ninety six. SNP Dow Jones indices has been leading source for index innovation. We've always been committed to leveling the plainfield with solutions for all investors as well as the cutting edge research and real time information investors need to navigate the markets confidently our solution span all major major asset classes in developed and emerging markets globally we leverage leading trends like es G. and factor strategies to anticipate these changing modern day dynamics get our latest insights by searching index allergy on the web these numbers from Constellation Brands S. T. Z. The big alcohol company best known for Krona and Modell this morning constellation Puerto. It first seemed like a pretty solid core. Netra factoring in at twenty cents earnings hit related to the company's major investment can't be growth the that's the tough cannabis producer situation they still deliver to twelve percent earnings beat off of dollar two dollars and sixty seven basis with southey higher than expected sales up to your ear. Even better measure raised their full year forecast. The stock end up getting hammered down six percent today what went wrong. We didn't think the headline numbers constellations wine and spirits businesses probably they're trying to sell their lower end brands to another winery at C. J. Gal one point seven billion deals been delayed which makes these results harder to interpret beer. Business was basically just in line. Companies Investment can't be growth getting pounded of late. Put it all together and there was enough hair on this quarter guests care where the bars are saying guess because we ought to find out more did the stock related to serve the plummets six percent today. You got to wonder if this could be the buying opportunity. We've been looking looking for your so. Let's take a closer look bill. He's the presidency of Constellation brands learn more about the quarter and where the company's headed Mr Monti. Thanks good to be here. Jimmy so bill. I've got to tell you in terms of things that were moving parts. Let's call them that it was tougher understand this quarter than others because of the wine and spirits lay with Gallo because of the way there's a counting for your canopy business so can you just walk smart a little better because I think people may have been so confused that they did the wrong thing. Yeah we think so too Jim. I mean when you look at our core business or Mexican imports. They were up in depletion over eight percent when adjusting to make it an even time him of how many days there were on the quarter very strong medalla was particularly strong up fifteen percent and was the number one growth driver with over thirty percent of the growth on the entire a beer business so we had a really strong quarter when you then add to that that our margins with the best they have ever been in the quarter. We think our beer business representing eighty percent percent of our total profit had a really really strong quarter. What I think people may have gotten mixed up in a little bit is some of the accounting treatments around Canopy Bob. Let's face it. Seven hundred fifty seven million is a big number and that number is how much we're up on in our total investment and canopy since we made the initial national investment so we think the same as you that this is a great opportunity for people to buy in because we think some people miss the miss the success that we had during the quarter quarter canopies come down along with the rest of the group. There are a lot of shortsellers driving down some of these types but those a lot of competition. There's a lot of cannabis stories out there. I'm being pitched one every we single day. Do you think that can't be because of some of the missteps Bruce Whitney done or because it doesn't have a new CEO because the currency is retiring is just too hard to get your arms around or is this an opportunity that may be. I know you guys have a limited how much you can buy but it does seem like it's the best capitalised capitalize cannabis story out there. Maybe it's up to you for that. One it is the best capitalized and importantly it is still the leader in total cannabis sales and with our acreage deal which will be finalized when legal here in the United States canopy will be well well positioned to win in the United States as well so we continue to be very bullish on canopy and its long-term opportunity to win in this market place. Do you think it can be the consolidator that everybody needs because I've you got Ta Bill. There's too many companies essentially right now. Yeah I think so you know one of the reasons. Is You know why we made the initial investment is we felt. They understood government regulation. They understood the science better than anybody else in the industry so no one in our judgment is better position than canopy to win. What we we all believe. We'll be at two hundred billion dollar business in the next. Several years or more are what are the things that the previous everyone's saying. When are you going to do a spy celso wearing spicer pills. Are you've got one now and say no one cares now. I mean it's really incredible. Thickly are not this category exploding just at the look in their frigerator of any millennial millennial. What does it mean that the corona hard seltzer and when can I see it in stores or is it there. I just hadn't gotten time yet now. You're going to see it starting march March this coming year but remember what Caroni is coronas. DNA is all about refreshment and when you add to the fact that corona is the most trusted brand from the for the twenty one to fifty four year olds whether they be non Hispanic or Hispanic it is a perfect marriage between Seltzer and corona brand franchise and as we've said before we were only going to do this if we could do it profitably. We're going to make a lot of money entering this category and we think with margin structure that is well above everyone else. Who's playing in it today now. How is that possible because everybody tells me it's so they're making a ton kind of money. Constellation brands well as you know our bottom line. Margin structure in this quarter was well over forty percent and when we see Seltzer forgetting to an effective run-rate level that takes a significant piece of this year. We're going to have a very similar margin profile on this product to our regular regular core corona business so if you look at the other players in the industry they don't have margin profile anything resembling that will be well okay so I I also want to know about we got some new tariffs president just put on Scotch and whiskey over there. We're having a little problems now getting through this. Maybe the Canada Mexico Trade Agreement. What what are these terrorists meaning for you. They mean almost nothing to us Jim. You know we were not sure whether they'd be any impact if anything would be implemented in Italy and it wasn't as you know we have our refusal property in Italy so given that the vast majority of our business is done here in the United States and has done with with with brands that are made here in the United States plus in Mexico. We will have no impact whatsoever relative to the tariff so we're good to go one question. I got a stake in for mess cal. You've got high west. You've got the best at least in my place. Selling Tequila did Craft Jin. Put these altogether. You're going to get something that in the end is going to move the needle for this big company well. Let's not forget fed gusts that guy was up in Iowa yeah right over six percent in the in the most recent quarter and we've got a lot of opportunity with the brands that you mentioned to to really grow our spirit portfolio. We're excited about it a lot of its craft. A lot of it's where the consumer is moving the whole premium trend but that whole sector of the business is going to be important to us going forward all right terrific. I'm so glad that came on bill really clarified a lot of good things that is bill new ones. He is constellation Brands Presencio. Thank you so much good to see you. Jim Cramer Hi everybody I'm becky quick along with Joe Kernan and Andrew Ross Sorkin welcomed the squawk pod from CNBC. That's right. We are launching a podcast. Everyday squawk brings you. The best stories debate analysis from the most powerful show in business news. You'll you hear interviews from our guest special behind the scenes content in the latest headlines. Everything you expect from squawk box in podcast. Let for us on. CNBC DOT COM slash slash podcast apple podcasts or on your favorite podcast APP subscribe to Squawk pod today. How do you know when it's safe to circle back to a stock doc that suddenly turn toxic tickled to. That's the largest cosmetics chain in America for years old. It was one of the Hottest Sisli Gross stocks retail then a little over a month ago. The company reported very disappointing quarter and the stock dot. Take taken to the woodshed losing you a thirty percent of its single session decline. Stop kept falling as one else. If another express it's their betrayal but over the past couple of weeks. ULTA started getting its group back. The stock surged from twenty five to sixty five although it's come down from there's levels after getting hit with a sophomore analyst initiation Goldman Sachs this very day so ignorant of this five dollar tip Ulta is well off its lows does and we want to know whether it's still a by from then or if it's bounce too much or if it's too high was this just a relief froude or something really changed here that makes this story which was just horrible more compelling. I think the rebound I think it's the real deal. I'm GonNa tell you what first of all you need to understand what went wrong here. In many ways ultimate was a victim of its own success for years. They delivered spectacular double digit same store sales some of the best in the whole whole retail cohort under the leadership of its incredible CEO. Mary Dillon Company did a tremendous job of getting people in the stores they Louis Room with their salon services cosmetics and hair care and skin care products of course they get you signed up for their incredible loyalty program which has millions and millions of people. It was an all round great business all round great stock. It was a long time Kramer faith in short ulta beauty became a market darling and the problem with Mark Darlings is when they failed to meet expectations. We'll guess what their stocks just completely eviscerated at the beginning of this year. The buyer seemed exhausted and it's supposed to stock had more than tripled in less than five years trading twenty-five time six years which is a lot for retailer plus in April. We learned that there were some heavy insider selling during the first quarter directors executives sold you a two hundred sixty billion dollars in stock when they saw less than fifty four million worth in all of two thousand eighteen the insiders included CEO Mary Dillon with the the benefit hindsight. Those insiders sales told you as a good time to ring the register in this one vehicle. I should've seen it insider sell stock doc for many different reasons. It's not necessarily a sign that something's going wrong. ULTA was huge so they were only being prudent and they took some profits still it was not something I like to see so that was the setup going into the last day of August. When ultra reported a subpar quarter and the stock fell off a cliff? How bad were these numbers. This bad wow while the company missed across every line item they they weren't business same store sales growth came in at six point two percent also wanted to see six point six percent net sales a little weaker than expected and they post an eight cent missile missile the two dollars nine hundred pages now the growth year was already slowing. Thanks to the law of large numbers but this was more of a slowdown than anyone expected because we're all used to having this thing beat. The number beat the number beat. The number is expected to blow up worse. There were some you'll excuse issues for example alters earnings grew at a slower pace than it sales else for the first time in years still at the results were tepid. The guidance was downright. DISTURBING ULTA slashed full-year same-store sales forecast from six from the six to seven percent range down to the four to six percent range. That's a rural diesel. We always quote diesel for total sales. They've been guiding for low double. Digit growth the edge that down down to somewhere between nine to twelve percent so might have been just high single-digit growth imagine took 'em cleaver to the Ernie's numbers cutting the midpoint of the forecast from just thirteen just under twelve civil in the com school Maryville and talked about headwinds. Oh man talk about a word. You never want your head wins. We are currently seeing in the US cosmetics ed exploring not long ago. ULTA seemed like it had tailwinds now. It's got headwinds. What is the problem here doing mentioned that most of the top cosmetic brands both mass market and prestige. We're experiencing negative growth for the year. ULTA thought this was temporary but Dylan says we now believe that the softest we've seen so far twenty nineteen will continue through the remainder of the year. Oh man that's just stinks. She goes on to explain the corporate. Okay the main issue driving. The softer cycle and cosmetics is that the newness and innovation that have been the focus of most brands. This year has just not driven kind of incremental growth. We've enjoyed for some period of time in the past. You'd have new styles. NEW RITUALS DO APPLICATION ACACIA techniques that would produce better numbers but don't tells us quote the most recent cycle of innovation has just knocked driven these behaviors resulting in a soft cycle for the cosmetics addicks category period so the makeup businesses hurting although don't you dare tell the Ki- ULTA supplier estee lauder ask for Breezy Freighters Company just reported spectacular numbers disturbing. I found it still outside of makeup. Listen very strong growth growth in every category especially skincare and don't said she's trying to fix the makeup is as promising lovers the company's consumer insights and more closely with their brand partners to turn things around Jeez when your company has a fabulous track record and you slash your guidance your stock. It's an islet. I the analysts cut their estimates on. How could they not five firms downgraded Ulta with Morgan Stanley argument. This was a quote thesis changing and quarter. That's devastating. That's why the plummeted nearly thirty percent in a single day and spent the bulk September licking its wounds. Nobody wanted a seemingly broken gross stock in this environment. The crazy thing thing is that in the past couple of weeks old has made her comeback. Usually it takes more than a month to get that kind of bounce after such an ugly shortfall. It's almost like someone's switch. The switchmen flipped here and investors have been given the okay to get back into Ulta. What's change remember how the insider selling earlier this cheer really should have been our signal to register Ulta. Well just get this late last month. We started seeing some insider by September twenty six. Mary Dillon shelled out about three hundred eight thousand to buy one one thousand nine hundred shares in the market. Okay not big but get this. It's not just the Charles Hellabrunn Very Smart Guy Member of ultras board of directors since one thousand nine hundred five biggest source source of insider sal sales this spring so they started buying in a series of transactions from September twenty sixth to September thirtieth harboring snapped up fifty the sixty million dollars worth of stock that huge unlike insider selling buying occurs. If you think the stock's GonNa go higher right thinking about insider cells all sorts of traded reasons. Maybe they just need cash estate planning divorce but insider insider buys on that's that's powerful. Wall Street saw that the people who know Ulta best had become buyers. That's when the stock bottom since then. It's been a big move but we were lucky today in that means if you wanted to buy it because it put back more than five dollars two percent after Goldman Sachs syndicated coverage with a neutral my view right now ulta cells from nineteen sometimes textures earnings estimates. It's no longer trading high flying much closer value territory. Actually the cheapest I reckon since Dylan took over and that's why I think the stock by the bottom line yes ultras last quarter was a disaster. I wish I had seen it coming but with this SARS buying in the stock looking cheap for Cisco Threat. I think too tempting to ignore when it's going down even if it's looking at permanently lower growth mid single oh digits same store sales figures well. It's still pretty darn good for retail IRA men by a little ole to here and then maybe you get a bad employment number. Whatever that would mean you get a chance to buy even more on the way let's go to Spencer in Florida Spencer but Bouillon well played so I was wondering what the market volatility going on right now only a good time to invest in a five and below or wait for a price point you know Mike Chappell Trust took a profit in it because we just felt we had such a gain went down then it started coming back and we think that we think the businesses really well. Run worried worried about tariffs frankly but then they came out and said listen. Maybe we do have to raise price. A little bit. I didn't fought blow is fine. I really want to buy a tease. I don't think you should buy up here but retail. Dell's making another move and this is part of it. Let's go to David in New York. David thank you for taking my call of course a lot of time trading the ask you about your thoughts on the real real you previously mentioned goodbye. Birds real real is one. I mean in what has become truly a class of second rate. IPO's this is a members only company for luxury auxiliary good and I like it now. I think a lot of people are worried. Is this the next stitch fix. I didn't think districts that bad frankly but we'll go into that and later I think real real feels real to enticing to ignore right now via little here and then grab some more market rolls over this is GonNa take the market debris down by this much money. Eh The market dropped over a hundred points in the first two days of October so you have to wonder. Does your portfolio have what it takes to fight the unknowns in the market pay. Let me be the judge. We're GONNA play. We haven't done it a while. How am I diversified then. When is a win not a win when it's a trade war win? Alex played all your calls rapid fire in tonight's edition of the lightning evening round so stay with Roemer when the tape starts to look like a Christmas tree. I understand why you might begin to feel a little concern but remember panic has never our strategy is part of a good strategy is maintaining a portfolio that can come face to face with volatility still gets you through defensive with earning season season getting underway. It's even more important and make sure you keep a diversified portfolio. They can deal with the ups and downs of what's the common. That's why we play. Am I diversified. What did you do okay. You give me a call. You tell tell me your top five hundred I told you propose diversified or maybe needed mix at all. Let's start with Scott Neil line. I Scott what cooking Jim how are you buddy couldn't be the scout from Chicago after thirty years of being in the S. and P. Five Hundred Futures Pitt finally trying to figure out if I inverse effect well I gotTa tell. You I'm honored that you called in because you obviously have a good handle on everything financial. So let's go to work can help you well. I hope you can't also I've got a J D Microsoft nvidia excellent and Sir Okay Right now. We do have bliss when my absolute favorite defense talks with you mentioned a friend who works for it and video was used today and that's because I think it's about to get approval Mellon Knox and also gets Mike Run. Stabilize excellent is a terrific utility. Sooner is a healthcare software company and Microsoft obviously obviously Great Tech Company but here's the problem. Mike Invidia do tend to trade together. I'm actually going to say let's keep Nvidia. Let's go with Microsoft and let's get a I'm scared of retailer in there and I'm going to select as of tonight Cosco and then I think we have total game but that has to be done. I don't like that overlap. Let between Microsoft and Invidia also known as my dog and I have a great dog picture today video go to twitter. Can I go to jockey seen in in California jockeying. Oh Yeah Jam for having me Back Time Fan of the show. I appreciate everything you do. Oh thank you thank you very much yeah so the five that I have our Disney Costco American waterworks. Boeing and visa all right. Let's go to work here. Okay Disney's entertainment murky. Arkham waterworks is a terrific utility. Boeing great defense company visas. It's terrific Fintech and COSCO's one of my favorite retailer retail. We've got entertainment. We gotTA utility. We've got fintech and we've we've got defense aero. Wow who what spike is stuck on okay. Let's go to this in Illinois Vac Iraq. I love creamer first time caller electing off. I am diversify. Let's go to work okay Roku. AM CVS DOT COM that's C. Well okay man okay here. We go Roku within a call and you know what we're GONNA do. We're we'RE GONNA. Call it entertainment. 'cause there's just a little too much overlap here. Don't want everything sold qualcomm going to call as we're going to call that communication software. AMD well. I gotTa tell you these are going to go to together so we're going to get rid of qualcomm because there's enough indications. AMD CBS big position actual Lord's really like and I tell club. Moore's one of the cheapest stocks out there is A. Let's just call her online retailer so let's keep broken we need to do is we need to bring in something here again. We can use news let see why don't we put in honey. Will I like to have a diversified industrial. That's doing incredibly well that would fit in in place choice of qualcomm. I know we're going to cut back on yield a little bit but I like it. Okay all right. Let's go to Dave in Kansas. Dave run shock Jayhawk Jim okay love. The jayhawks always been a Jay Hawk fan ever since wilt what's going on Danny. My Symbols Holds Our C. E. O. Key Deity. Oh yes Kale a love. PEP HE A. Y. All boy we've got some work to do here okay fintech which I love by the way it's a great great coach call being asked me about. I was too negative. It's a winner Kalay that semiconductor capital equipment. It's really good paychecks. We're going to regard that as payroll processing little small category PepsiCo go blowout quarter today and the is Gio oh to beverage companies but they don't trae together why this is hard beverage bridge meaning alcohol so we've got an alcohol company. We've got a soft drink and frito lay company executives should Regina Gilgen likes US especially hot on fire chips. I have to eat him with a fire extinguisher nearby Fintech but but we call payroll processing. I just love this company Kale sending duck equipment. I've been doing credibly well and thin too great fintech companies timmy. I'm liking. I'm liking what I hear. I N M I do. I have more you may have money is sixty minutes is back after the break and I mean the and then the lighting matters other. Are you ready Skate. Governor Light Resin drew in Texas. This is drew Buja Jim how you doing. I am having a good day. How are you I'm doing well. That's got a question for you you about yet. He like Eddie. I know people were worried about the balance sheet. I gotTa tell you I think it's a good shape and I want to buy. Let's go to Kevin in Georgia. Please Kevin. Hey how you doing tonight. I am doing well. Actually it out. We weren't bonds kind of train down here. We go what's up. They end up looking for your opinion opinion on the egg fertilizer or take on Mosaic Mosaic. No you know mosaic is that's a commodity business. I have always shied ride away from commodity businesses on the show and it's never hurt me that that's my view okay. Let's go to Canyon. There's a cool name in Texas Canyon. Show show me the money Jim. I'll do that with me. Jimmy sure I'm with you. Show me the money last year on this date square with ninety eight dollars dollars the fundamental about as good as the flights that the longshoremen is it time for the lab to unload the clip here well longshoremen where my wife Lisa who it was on a video today that I give people more fantasy. here's the problem you are going to run into the fact that they. Wa- Sarah Frier and the stock is never moved off ever since Sara frier left the governing so I like square but it is really incredible how one person could mean so much. I think that that companies good company. Let's cut it gave it in California cal point. We say we are Jim Cramer David. I'm calling again for your insight and guidance this time on Raytheon Arkin and made a little pop when Finney birger look. I gotTa tell you this combination can raytheon the United Technologies is simply brilliant. I don't understand why people people are so worried about everything here. Great again a great. He's got this completely under control. It is a by rate at Mercury on united and let's cut a Romi in Virginia Virginia Romi Jim. This is Romi Virginia. I had a question in reference to Bristol Myers. Ah The merger the merger with cell gene is going to be a winner and it is true that I like the Abbey Hourigan merger more but the Bristol Myers cell not merger is a dynamite Combo. Let's go to denise in Virginia Denise. Hello Jim everything my husband's though and I are top fans advisor family and friends and you recently he's looking at Davy Net for our long-term dot portfolio the price over the team. You know you're going to be good thing. I'M GONNA send you back to that then toss. That's what I know. I know what's inside. Ben Toss. 'cause I know Cafaro. I I don't WanNa. Go feel like you are. Let's go to Daniel and Pennsylvania Daniel Daniel. Yes come on my brother. What do you got your ship Gramer. Yes Kramer. Thank you for the valuable service providing health for the thank you is this. The kid is invest thank you what is your opinion about an Kado oil and gas. Don't coach real bad I actually I don't WanNa touch it matter of fact. I I am sixty. I often talk about that. It's about what's worse. Stocks can go to bed and that's because there's no such thing as negative numbers Bryan Indexes Brian. I hear you Brian Djerma in Texas originally from flatbush in UTICA. Okay there you go I'm invested for income at this point. I'm going to be happy that I bought Finish Petrole mess today. Yes and I've got my chapel. We look at it here. We're like shocked at how bad the stock axe but it is a fossil fuel company and the millennials up rebellion yield six point seven percent. I think it's a very good good situation but I recognize how much possible fuels are hated. Let's go to one more. Let's go to Tom in New Jersey Tom. Gin Hey listen. I want to thank you for the skills. You passed onto me. Oh terrific thank you. What's your thoughts on waste. Management was hoping we're going to be able to say I feel very good about it and don't forget we've Mr Fischler on and he's burry good. It's CEO. This is the level and that ledger couldn't how the lightning round is sponsored by a when is a win not a win when it's part of a trade yesterday and it's the worst sell off in ages so there was a moment where it looked like wall all street genuinely believe the president might take WTO victory against Europe and simply use it as a bargaining chip to get better deals if this ruling against Europe for dumping Airbus planes was fifteen years in the making why don't use it to show some graciousness negotiate better terms over the long term from the EU on a host of other products where their tractors remortgage remortgage us at least. That's how the thinking went. The president trump wasn't having any of it. He slapped new import duties right on instantly ride their faces no negotiations just here's a new tasks wind scotch host of goods. We import from your. That's the last thing that Wall Street the street is hoping for actually yes indeed a measured response to distinguish good got Europe from Bam Bam point China so etre punishing opening why other than how did not crater may actually bounce because there's actually another camp of investors who believe that the White House could be even more punitive here. There's just happy. Trump didn't go after the licencee. LVMH erm is hence this tie or some of the other finer leather goods just really make a mockery of things. I gotTa tell you this is all becoming insanity. If you don't know where the president is on trade at this point and you haven't been paying attention to this show trump appoints tariffs everywhere to reverse longstanding trade imbalances everywhere he thinks the United States has been a patsy all over the world and regards this. WTO Williams win he wants to use it to escalate are simmering trade war with China Dreamy trade with Europe as well as keep going with our neighbouring China and you know what that is bad news for the stock market in short while this ruling was a win against Europe's unfair trade practices. I think it'd be a loss for our economy and our stock market. I say that as someone who's back though trade war with with China the hill but this is not the time the raw all new tariffs not when we're fighting a potential economic slowdown in our our country really though I'm Qatar said so many money managers in commentators still haven't figured out what President Trump schools are. He's been pretty upfront about it now. I think the president's had a two prong strategy on on trade. He wants to confront our allies bludgeon them into opening more plants here while at the same time starving China of new investment but tariffs are basically a sales tax and any kind of sales sales tax hurts our economy which brings us to second pro. The White House was hoping that the Fed would back them up and cut interest rates aggressively offsetting any damage to the trade war. Unfortunately if you wanted to accommodate Federal Reserve he really shouldn't have put it very different. People because fed chief trump pal doesn't seem self as a team player is an Orthodox Central Bagger he controls the independent so pals raised interest rates with Alacrity last year and now he's dragging his feet of rate cuts without the Federal Board. What are we left with the dollars too too strong for manufacturers to thrive especially in the slowing global economy. It's not like these new tariffs on wine and olive oils would create jobs instead. Our largest enterprises are paralyzed us with indecision as executives. Don't know where the next tariffs are going to hit. It seems so capricious arbitrary. We're fortunate that domestic economies still humming. That's made up for Slowdown International National Congress. Last night. We spoke to paychex payroll processor and the job creation day talked about is very real. We have a real labor shortage. That's godsend for anyone who works for a living but the last thing we need at this moment is a two front trade war. Hey Look I'm all for cracking down on China probably harder line and a lot of people the White House and I think we started the upper hand there and I know that a Europe plenty of unfair trading practices of tone in theory president trump's not wrong you but in practice I think fighting to trail could be self defeating for our economy and first first presidency. It's too bad because judging by the president's attitude he's happy to keep imposing more and more tariffs everywhere. That's something we can't afford much more unless the Fed is on board which it's not Mr President is time we had a deal done something not unilateral just to show that we still have a functioning government when it comes to trade these days even though I am a hardliner maybe the harder than you. I am wondering well. Let's just say if we ever get done and we'll get the unemployment number. I can tell you what I fear. On Fridays. We've had a lot of erotic tweets from the President President and if you want the market to stabilize Mr President this might be a good time to start tweeting about other things than the stock market for the Fed it. Let's say a role how we from probably go higher no matter what let's take a little were. Taurean One tweeting about the quite sensible mortgage software. I'm certified it just right here man money. 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Bellinger single in the thirteenth to get a two one win and notched this series up at two two after game for that Cody Bellinger walk off. RBI sound a little like this era has signed Lansing back at Machado with second. And now the three, two and a swig pace. Food. It is. Works for the dodgers. That call courtesy of ESPN radio and that that crack of the bat came five hours and fifteen minutes after the start of the game insert comment about the length of the baseball games. But in the postseason we kinda throw that out. It becomes endearing when you get to this time of year. The second longest postseason game in dodger history. Only behind the five hour and seventeen game, five hundred seventeen minute game of game five of the World Series from last season so in good company. But it took extras to decide the winner here and extra is probably going to be the theme of the night because when you look at that, the dodgers taking a lot of extra swings and even more extra misses. I heard Tim Kirk in and the rest of our baseball Sunday night baseball crew in the baseball. The night guy say Sunday night, the baseball the night crew talking about and sort of lamenting you can see begrudgingly giving way the same way my father talks begrudgingly about the NFL giving way successfully to rule changes the benefit offense. So too, do you hear these guys sort of big grudgingly acknowledged that the way of the world right now in major league baseball, look something like this. The dodgers said, a fresh. Which is record for most strikeouts in a postseason game for the second consecutive game. Now the dodgers struck out seventeen times in game four besting the previous record of fourteen set in game three. Which is just remarkable how remarkable the dodgers have played two hundred twenty six postseason games and three of their five highest strikeout totals have come in this series. Been incredible. Now, one guy out there swinging and missing and helping his team, their midseason acquisition, Manny Machado, who after the game. Spoke with our own Pedro Gomez. Many try to describe the feeling right now. I mean there there is no better feeling great. We battled game. We're paying. We're paying very gray and get your team over there that they don't let up, you know and we kept flight to the end. It's a long game, but not belly came up clutch. You know, we're running around second base. We've been struggling lately with runners scoring position, so we're gonna have to go better than that. Hopefully we could carry the science tomorrow. How how? How do you do that? How much? How much will this kind of push you guy momentum that we need. You know, obviously it's it's we battled game, you know, we, we, we stick together. We have some great at bats we couldn't. We couldn't get that big key hit. So hopefully tomorrow and we could stay stay, stay, stay focused, keep doing what we've been doing. Things turn around many this is deeper than you've ever gone in the postseason. What was the level of anxiety like as each inning went by? I mean, obviously, we're, we're playing. We're playing for the pennant so you know, definitely, you know, you got a great same on the other side that's playing very good baseball and every outcome every strikeouts every boss conso. You know, you just gotta go up there to stay focused pitch by pitch, and you just try to say focus quick question. What happened with Aggie Larr. I don't know. I mean, he was on the bag kind of kind of tripped over him, hit him a little bit slow. You know these happened, but you know, that's just baseball. You know, we go way back. We, we have history together and there's nothing but tough love over there. And now we're, we're trying to win. They're trying to win these heated late in their game. You know things happen, but you know, everything's good. You know, we, we go way back. So you know, just come back tomorrow, play some baseball and no hope to come out the victory tomorrow. It's almost today today. I mean today a couple of a couple minutes many, we feel you on that one first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio, the ESPN app. It's confusing time of night for all of us on never forget the first night doing this show getting dropped off in an Uber at the station. I was doing it in New York City, so I was staying in a hotel. I was dropped off in an Uber at the hotel, and I said, all right, have a good night to my Uber driver, right as he stepped on my words and said, all right, have a good morning, and I realized that time is a flat circle, and we've all been here and not been here. Many times over the road to the World Series goes through ESPN radio catch all the postseason action presented by auto zone on ESPN radio, ESPN, radio dot com and the ESPN app. Now he's the reference there with Manny. Machado referencing a moment where Manny Machado appeared to of spiked Hayes Goulart at first base. You're Machado. They're claim is in the middle of the bag. Many Machado, a guy with a little bit of this on his resume already. Think you go back to spring seventeen accused a spike industy Joya. So a guy who once you've got that history, we'll get into somebody in the NFL who's dealing with the ramifications, some history of their own, a well-earned reputation in just a little bit. Joe Thomas coming with that gas yesterday. But for many Machado that's going to get called out when your guy the minute, you do it more than once you get that reputation, everyone starts looking sideways at you. But that being said, we're all looking a little bit sideways, thirteen innings later in this one. So the dodgers even this up at two games apiece now. Again in a best of seven series, the winner of gained five has gone on to win seventy percent of the time. And that could be good news or bad news depending on how much you buy into the narrative surrounding Clayton Kershaw who's going to get the start on the mound for the dodgers in game five of this series. Lot to look forward to with that one lot to look back on the here. Dave Roberts dodgers manager talked about being excited about this win after their game. I just saw quality bats and and really good swings. And he was on base three times. I think tonight and four times. So he just he's, he hasn't played a whole lot in the last few weeks, but he's a pro and just really takes good at bats and so for him to spark sparks and get a point on the board early that was huge and just the defense tonight and just the bad quality I thought was really good. Eight, seven to nine three, seven, seven, six triple eight, eight years PF you want to get hold of us on the shell Pennzoil performance line. The dodgers win would feels like minutes ago in walk off fashion. In the thirteenth inning, they get a two one win, not this series up at two a piece. And last podcast short changed. What I think I have to dub as a millennial hero. Because man, Alex bregman last night was balling. That dude came with it first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Now. Lest we forget Alex bregman a little bit of the back story here is Nathan of all the was with Tampa Bay during the spring, right? Got lit up by the Astros. Then that was the impetus for a lot of this. I believe. But Alex bregman leading up to this game where Nathan evolve. He was getting the start for the Red Sox. Posted some videos on his Instagram story. Of the Astros just lighten of all the up, just absolutely going yard on this guy. It was back to back to back shots eventually got taken down, but ov- at came to a head last night. He ended up, you know, ended up deleting it. And everyone else seems shocked that he actually would go about doing that. But that being said, when you go out there and talk bleep, you got to back it up, Alex bregman last night. I know the final score for them, not necessarily what they were looking for. The Red Sox beat the Astros take a two games to one lead in that series by combined score of eight to two Jackie Bradley Jr. with the grand slam late in that one. But Alex bregman was not the issue man defensively couple of great barehanded grabs couple of unbelievable plays. There went to work at the plate. I think Alex bregman. If I'm not mistaken. Walked walked in something like his third straight Posey, multiple walks in his third straight postseason game. I believe I will check in on that one. But again, an absolute ball in performance from guy out there talking all sorts of bleep on social media, which I feel like his counterparts in the NBA appreciate like we've been saying this is a direct borrow from the NBA model where we believe that level of petty exists in always has a home. So last night that kicked off again, the NBA regular season got going last night and this is already started. You can tweet the show on the one hundred flowers dot com. Twitter feed at ESPN radio and at goal of junior fifty, seven as we had the Celtics in the seventy Sixers squared off in the early game last night at eight o'clock, and then the warriors getting their rings taken on the Russell Westbrook Klis Oklahoma City thunder much later in the evening. Now the warriors getting in that process, their championship rings that are reversible and it I, I wouldn't sure how that was gonna play, but if you take a look at them actually pretty cool one side diamond, the other side sapphires seventy four for the number of wins that the warriors had. Last season on their way to a second straight NBA title, this kind of ring innovation we need. They just been getting bigger and rounder across sports. And so now adding this in, I feel like evolution. We've hit the next step pretty excited to see what teams can pull off that being said, not a lot of excitement from our friend Bill remain on the one hundred flowers dot com. Twitter feed says, NBA predictions. It seems if it isn't Golden State or Boston, there are no other teams in the NBA according to ESPN, guess there no reason for teams like Houston, filling indie or others to even show up the season because no matter what they do, it won't matter to ESPN. Yes, damn ESPN for recognizing and using the expertise of our basketball people to point out the teams that we believe are better than the others. The nerve of this group disgusting. Me my God. We're going to start this already. We talk about this in college football, no one's gonna beat, Alabama. No one's going to be Golden State. We all knowledge it. We can still have fun along the way we've been having fun and it was fun. Last night, Boston Celtics fans, the c, Gordon, Hayward and Kyrie Irving back out on the floor. Now Gordon Hayward knocking off some serious Ross Kyrie Irving only played about twenty nine minutes, but Brad Stevens getting his assessment of the action after the game? Yes, out dad moments. I mean, he's never gonna have a game like that probably. And that's, you know, everybody's been talking about Gordon being gone for twelve months. He's been out for six and. You know had no intention of really restricting minutes wise, but it's probably not all bad. The play twenty nine in that first one get your feet underneath the and get ready to go from here first and last year on ESPN radio presented by progressive insurance drivers switched to progressive, conceive an average of six hundred sixty eight dollars. Now for them, Boston ends up getting a pretty sizable win this game. The looked a lot closer than it ended up being in watching the first three quarters of it, but Boston's up winning one five to eighty seven in large part due to the fact that on the other side. So we got two teams in the LeBron list. Eastern Conference are now at trying to take hold of that mantle and these are two young rosters that have built up over the last few years. One side in the seventy Sixers through what we won't call tanking because Adam silver doesn't want to call it tanking. But the seventy Sixers tanking and trusting the process that built this young core. The problem is now they built it. Without very much three point shooting anymore. The seventy Sixers last night ended up going five of twenty six from three, but not just that outside of ten feet. They were eleven for forty five. Now it's not all doom and gloom as good as the seventy Sixers last year and even started. See that promise a bit of the year before the last opening season win came in two thousand thirteen. So hardly predictive worth. Note as that group. I tell you the difference watching the seventy Sixers though. We're going to talk a lot about Ben Simmons still needing to develop that jump shot. And clearly those stats indicate that someone on the seventy Sixers needs to develop a jump shot because outside of JJ Rettig I don't know if you've got shooters there that you really trust as much with some of the offseason moves and departures that team ended up having. But man, you can trust Ben Simmons handling the ball because good Lord, some of the passes that man made, especially some of those that benefited Marquel Foltz cutting to the basket benefited Joel and be there were some highlight reel, Showtime type plays from Ben Simmons as a distributor as a guy who is going to be interesting, we know Markelle full. It's got the start last night, his broke jumper, trying to get back into form, but more than anything, putting him on the court kind of throws off the balance because we're used to Ben Simmons being that six ten point forward of sorts. And so him going out there how they adjust with Markelle full on the floor with Ben Simmons, what that allows Simmons to do getting down closer to the basket, all of it still pales in comparison to what that guy can do with ball in his hands. And last on ESPN radio and the ESPN app, but it pales in comparison on the other side you had Terry Rozier picking up right where he left off building a lot of that playoff folklore, adding to his highlight reel plays with a block on Joel Embiid early in that game. This is going to be what a lot of people hope. The Eastern Conference finals matchup looks like right here that you get the healthy version of Gordon Hayward and Kyrie Irving holding for most of the season that all of the. Work and the experience that Celtics roster gang because I think if you're looking for one thing that's going to end up benefiting the Celtics more than anything. It is all those injuries. Last year we see this all the time. We're guys have to step up at a bigger roles, but when Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum had to do alongside Terry Rozier through last year's playoff with no Kyrie Irving, they had done a season without Gordon Hayward, and now you've got all those guys that are used to be in the man that don't have to be as consistently anymore. They can spread some of the weight that creates an interesting problem dynamic for other teams getting ready to face off with these guys, Gordon Hayward one of the guys that they're going to count on spoke after the game as well. Talked about the visualization of this moment out of the reality compared to the visualization, man. It was so good to be out there such a blessing that I was able to play basketball again. And so the first two minutes I was, I was super gas had so much Drennan going, but just a blessing. And that's where the bar is going to be and should be for Gordon Hayward right now is keep it focused on the day-to-day sort of what we went through with Tiger Woods. You just came back from grizzly injury. You need to get through this initial portion of the season, get back into quote, unquote basketball shape. Because the one thing you see, whether it's Gordon Hayward of Lonzo ball, dealt with a knee injury is basketball players coming back, stacking on a little bit extra muscle, and it all tends to be doing upper body after you just. Got your ankle pretty brutally. So strong opening night from the Celtics feeding in to the propaganda machine from ESPN who says it's only Boston and Golden State Golden State getting the late win. No surprise there over the Oklahoma City thunder. That side unfortunately does feel a little bit more foregone until we get a better look at the Houston Rockets and what they're really about in this one. First and last podcast. My name is Lauren. 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Who's been rehabbing a core muscle injury that he's stained against TCU earlier this season decide that he is now going to worth draw and focus his attention on the twenty nine thousand nine NFL draft. He's not going to be returning for the rest of this season. Head. Coach urban Meyer said I was hopeful. Nick would be able to return and play again for us. I know this is an extremely difficult emotional decision for Nick and his family. I wish him well as he moves himself onto get one hundred percent healthy and ready for his next chapter. I wanna thank Nick for the remarkable efforts. He gave this program. He's a first class young man who have been honored to coach. Urban Meyer had a meeting with the Bosa family. You presume they had been thinking about this for a while, assessing what had gone on with this injury and what the time line looked like. That was the first thing when I saw this news broke, I thought is our this injury ended up being a little more now when they say core muscle injury. We all end up thinking sports, hernias, something like that. When you've got surgery, we've got something in that area that says, central part of movement and what you do as a player in for guys dynamic, Nick Boza always wonder what this is going to look like. So I initially thought, all right, viz injury head to be a little worse than the expected. The recovery, maybe not going quite as well. And so the decision had to get made here down the stretch of the season because the longer longer you wait to come back in and get into form the heart-to-heart. It was going to be to rea- simulate here. They're just there end up being so many complications that I'm sure that's where the business decision comes in because it was also reminder. Most guys playing college football have one shot to be a millionaire. That comes up through the NFL draft for Nick Bosa for his brother, Joey, their chance to hate it for a pretty sizable bag comes through the form of football. Some guys are lucky and they have a great lucrative life after football most, would you settle for a great productive life after football, how all of us would, but we, John cale talks about all the time guys, basketball genius. The boasts are football geniuses. That is where they're genius manifest manifest. So you want to take full advantage of that. That's say it's going to be universally lauded, but I think it's a decision. We all have to understand at some point. And I think to everyone's credit, we've done a better job of seeing it from the side of the player that usually got washed away in the tide of Welby team player. Well, do this well do that. All these things that in sports are so woven into the fabric that at times we wash away basic humanity in the process. Now his decision itself is going to get weighed in on by everybody. Very interested AJ hawk former OSU linebacker star in the NFL for a long time, former great. In that uniform there, we talked to Bobby carpenter when we're in Columbus, former teammate, a lot about this, but here's AJ Hawkwing in the stand and they get it. Now, the real question would be if he wasn't rehabbing coming back from a surgery, what would they think the the real question and coming back who knows when he was able to get back on the field, what timetable would have been like. But honestly, I think right now too. The time was fifteen twenty years ago, tires coaches, everybody understands in the same when guy stick around how they can improve really Ulker the rest of the. I last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app that was Jay hawk joining Spain and Fitz last night on ESPN radio because most people are going to look at this and talk about the idea of letting your teammates down. I say most people that's even mistake probably saying that because it seems like a relative minority now that would be saying this guy is betraying his teammates or this guy is letting them down. Like I feel like that old guard thinking died. Once we realize what a lottery ticket this always now. I mean, going into the NFL when my dad was playing the salaries, what you see the base level salaries for rookies were in the five figure area. And that's not to say that's not a lot of money relative to the rest of life. But now when the rookie minimum salary is likely up over five hundred thousand dollars and guys picked in the top of the first round are looking at even in a worke wage scale world after the last CBA still probably fifteen plus million dollars in the rains that Nick Bosa is looking to get picked. That's a lottery ticket. What you can do after that, getting to the place where they're actually paying you for your service were going and battling through injury and doing the things that you're going to be asked to do on the football field, actually benefits you and not just the school. And that's not to say the Nick boasted in level Hieaux state, and it's not to say the Nick boast is not a competitor who wanted it didn't wanna championship ring as much as brother did or anything along those lines. That being said, understanding that we all got one shot at this the same way that I talk about transfers in college. We got one shot at this. You got one chance to go out there and try and play as much football as you can't. Even if there is no guarantee at the next level, but you've got one chance to make a good impression for that next level, and you've got one chance to maximize your earning potential on the front end. When you get drafted and paid, you get paid off what you didn't college and Nick boasts long since done enough in most people's mind to be paid, commiserate with the best player in the draft. That's the most people reference Abaz Melkite for junior Todd, mcshay, both have number one on their draft boards here. He SPN no caper. ESPN NC double a college football insider yesterday on college football, live talking about Nick Bose's decision for net plan. A ballgame. Christian McCaffrey didn't play into games that hurt their stock. There was talk about avian y play when you're already guaranteed this that did he took. At block against valley, shut it down then. So to me, it would have been a bad businesses to come back and play. This was a tremendous business decision to shut it that eight, seven, nine, three, seven, seven, six, I I throw this out now every time. One of these player decisions comes up because I feel like there is nothing, but a tidal wave of support for these guys and may maybe a high, oh, state fans. It would feel different now, Nick Bosa in this family of given a lot to the program as far as stellar play as far as bringing a lot of accolades to the program with their effort on defense for the Ohio State buckeyes. But I wonder if even that group feels slighted now because it affects your championship chances like there's no question. Ohio State gets worse because of this and is Russia say, is worse. He's been out since the TCU game. Ohio State is worse on defense because of this and state lacks that game breaking playmaker on that side without Nick, both. In the lineup. So is there a group any of this that feels slighted or have we moved to the point now where it is overwhelming support for a player making a decision in his best interest because they're doesn't feel like there's much to talk about like initially, you look at this and say, it would be a lot. We always thought this. Because you heard Leonard fournette and Christian McCaffrey reference there. Those guys were playing in bowl games that we have labeled. Now, air quotes meaningless because the college football playoff system at both at a chance to play any very meaningful game likely going to be a playoff game. Likely going to be a playoff game with the team that we know we give it all the Alabama. But Ohio State is in that class of warrior elite teams that have marquee talent and of one championships recently and have a coach on your staff that people trust to go out there and win football games. Well. Poses said no to that. Nick Boza looked at his health and his situation and his opportunity and said, no, I will pass on that in lieu of preserving the opportunity. I have going forward to maximize my earning potential in this sport. That's a big deal. Because we said this was what people always worried about. When guy started sitting out Bogue aims. This was the worry that eventually it would lead to guys pulling the plug like this and now that we're here, how do we feel? How do we take stock of this? Again, there's that side, there's the big picture. And then I just think about sitting in that locker of you got the news, Nick, Bose's guy you've been around for a long time working together. You spend all spring and summer together all season spend more time when most of these guys than your family. You go through all this and you work through it together with this goal of winning a championship. You also understand everyone else has their goals of making it to the next level and trying to create a better life for themselves, their family, whatever, whatever way it manifests. And I can always come back to. We heard AJ hot kinda hint at it there when we talked about carpenter out and Columbus former first rounder himself on what he would have done or how response, the relationship that you build with your teammates. If this is someone that you trust and care about in that locker room above all else, above success for the team, I always wanted successful my friends in the guys that I was with and success in this situation. It sounds like looks like Nick Bosa hanging up in college and focusing on making sure that this can work the right way in the pros and last podcast. John Mira on Oto Beckham, junior again, remember this came up in the spring before the contract before everything else speaking. A lot of what would become the headlines into existence from the top down. We always talk about not letting stuff out of the locker room. This is a bigger bolder version of that. But we've also got the decision made by Nick Boza, Ohio State defensive end guy who suffered an abdominal injury against TCU. Now deciding to withdraw from school, the pursue his career in the NFL. And I'm wondering if there's anyone against it, open it up to you. Eight, seven to nine, three, seven, seven, six, Chris, and Indianapolis, where you add on Nick Bose's decision. Junior, first of all, I wanna thank you for taking my call. Second of all, go Notre Dame playoff bound again this year, but I have no problem with decision, I think, and I'm not being a pessimist. I think everybody's playing for second place right now. I don't know. I think that Alabama's head and shoulders above everybody else as much as I hate to say that. And why risk injury when you can bring a financial windfall to your family and set yourself up for the Utah, by going and playing in a playoff game, I completely understand it. And I think that that college football is turned into a business and I don't think we're far away from seeing players being paid for their performances and what they do on the field, bringing us entertainment. I'll leave that with you and listen to your answer. Appreciate the call. Thank you first. And last here on ESPN. Radio brought to you by Pennzoil synthetics, taking synthetic motor oil performance to a whole new level, make the switch to Pennzoil synthetics today. And that's interesting realization. Now that again, so much of I. I think the appeal of college football tends to be that people can still in some ways, try rationalize it by saying the payers aren't, the players aren't paid. So they're doing it for the love of the game. They're doing it for all these pure Eason's that people seem to have a problem with at times at the NFL level because I think seeing guys make a ton more money than the rest of us kind of gets people in their feeling. Sometimes I think there's a little bit of envy there because it's a game and all the stuff that usually gets lobbies guys ways. The reality of the situation in college football in college, basketball, where Neff behind probe and things ongoing is probably starting to become a little too hard to ignore for some. So that all leads to this next part is money changes things. The influx of money in college football has changed things the amount of money available to you. If you are great at football changes the way that you have to operate here because you are not affecting just you anymore. Like our caller said, this is your family. This is a lot of your future bloodline. Line potentially being affected by the way that you play a game with this ball. Think about how absurd that is. So now money changes a lot. Money hasn't really changed much about the relationship in the dynamic in the giants locker room. However, Oto Beckham, junior star wide receiver for the giants got his contract that he'd been looking for his contract to be holding out in the offseason four. And that had been a subject of discussion for awhile. Finally got that money and he hasn't changed. He is still been immensely, talented, largely productive, and a guy who is going to wear his frustrations on his sleeve and a guy that's going to speak his mind. Someone else who's join him in that camp since this spring has been John Mero who had comments at the owners meetings in the spring about Beckham junior. And had comments this week on Tuesday. There was some sort of owners meaning that went on and John Mara was asked first and foremost about the giant struggles and the embarrassing season. You're cold season. One five will push the feeling here. Still in barest. One, five. I can't stand up here. Make any excuses about that. Your record says you. Ours wise man said. Nothing. I can say mitt, people feel better about that. So just as much as financial are probably more. But again, I have confidence that we have to guys in the Elian. First and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. So that understandable. No-one everyone in the building going to work as hard, no matter what you're paid, no matter what your status is in the building. I believe John Mero when he says that he is suffering through this like everyone else because when it's close to you and it matters to you, it hurts that same can be said for auto Beckham, junior who also got brought up to John Mara and John Mary had this to say about Odal and his role in the season so far. I wish she would. Create headlines supplies, play on the field close to what he says. Thinking still a little more planning, less talkative. And there we go. So again, all I ask for is consistency. I understand. John Maher is ownership, great organization all the praise that we usually lob their way. John Merican be great man, a great owner and all these things. John merica still be doing the exact same thing that we are criticizing Odell Beckham junior for like we criticize Odell and others for bringing locker room issues outside of the locker room for putting it on display the sway the Pittsburgh Steelers did earlier this year that everyone had a big problem with Odell discussing UI manning his sit down interview seen Anderson a little Wayne discussing some of the problems on the team issues with their offense issues. Potentially. If Eli manning is the source of those problems, and we all said no bad wrong. I don't know how you can be mad at that and then look at this and say no bad wrong, but it's exactly what I told you. If management doesn't have a coach doesn't help a quarterback criticizes the rest of. Team usually were more accepting than position player than guy who is young, who is brash. Who is we're not used to seeing given the power. Again, this is all about where you put power the Nick Bosa situation, and this is where you put power, and so John Mayer coming out like he did at the owners meetings in the spring and bring this issue up for anyone. Everyone else because the easy answer is when you're asked about back juniors, Odell is a great player for us. He's guy that we've invested a lot of time and money in, and we believe makes our football team better. Easy answer. You're out of there. No one says anything about it. But when the minute you step out there and say, I wish he would do a little more playing in a little less talking. Now you've invited the rest of us to come and talk about this. Now, as I've often said as a teammate, the worst thing I always thought I could do was make problems that my other teammates would have to answer about, well. Guess what everyone of the giants locker rooms getting asked asked about this morning, give you a hint first and last the podcast, the first and last the podcast del Beckham junior's situation can teach teach Nick bozo allot, which is just because you leave school and get nice things and get a lot of money doesn't mean you're problem stuff first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. We're presented by progressive insurance. You touch the shell Pennzoil performance line eight, eight eight, seven to nine three, seven, seven, six triple eight. Say ESPN can also tweet the show the one eight hundred flowers dot com. Twitter feed at ESPN radio in at angle, junior, fifty, seven. So we've got all that going on in the world, football, Nick, Bosa decides to leave school, focus on preparing for the NFL draft Yoho state all American defensive end brother of Joey Bosa who we are very familiar with. Not for nothing. Someone asked an interesting question. On the one eight hundred flowers dot com. Twitter feed, Derek. Griggs tweets tried calling into the show but didn't get through the support from Nick posts. Teammates has been overwhelming Nikko's to no one to stay in risk the money. Has there ever been other brothers drafted less than five years apart go in the top five. I don't know about that. Close the obvious brothers that came to mind to me Terrell inter main Edmonds, both first rounders in the back end last year Tremaine Ed been sixteen to the bills Terrell twenty eight to the Steelers. You got Kyle along in Chris long, both five years apart, Chris long. The second overall pick in the two thousand eight draft Kyle long. The twentieth overall pick in the two thousand thirteen draft, but just outside you wanna use that five year window than these guys are excluded, but in nineteen ninety eight Peyton Manning number one overall in two thousand four manning number one. Overall, if I'm giving the title belt any brothers, it's going to be the Manning's arch Archie, and his wife can look and say, yeah, to number one overall draft picks. Remember for that back injury. We know Cooper was balling out here, so we got all that I last year on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. We also have major league baseball last night. Get the Houston Astros. Going up against the Red Sox. The Red Sox get a big win there. The dodgers get a win to tie their series. So the Red Sox now up to two one on the Astros the dodgers series tied at two apiece all that end and and we got the NBA getting kick-started last night. So the NBA kicks off last night. We had the Celtics getting a big win over the Sixers. You've got the warriors, they're ring night, getting a big win. Over the Russell Westbrook lists Oklahoma City thunder. And I don't mean to diminish the most interesting thing about Golden State's night is going to end up being the talk in the conversation about there, what's what's the reversible rings? That'll be the biggest headline coming out of them because we know it's a long year and for the warriors, they're the foregone conclusion. At this point. They're the ones that we think are going to be set in stone for now. So this is work. It's interesting. We're already at this point in the NBA season. I think this is what the NBA does really well is in a sport where we know so much of the focus. So much of what's going on is about the foregone conclusion is about this idea that we believe the warriors are already there. Now don't tell that to their head coach. Steve Kerr said, we're not quite in that shape yet. They came out, they probably went into their locker room and Billy probably say we should be down a lot more and it's close. And let's let's come back. Bad made a shot in the first half could make anything. So they caught fire twenty two points and the first five minutes we weren't ready to play. And fortunately we came back and took care of business, but. We're not in shape yet. I don't think I don't think that's going out on a limb. You know, people were tired out there on both teams. I thought. So Zahle goes first game. First and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio forty-one, combined miss threes last night. And that sounds like a lot. But then we remember that this is two thousand eighteen in the NBA. We check these things up like they're going out of style. The most mysteries and the game was seventy one in March and overtime game. The most regulation was sixty eight March two thousand seventeen in in regulation. So this is what we do. Now this how we live. We're talking about strikeouts in major league baseball and we'll get back to that. These strikeouts from the dodgers noteworthy record-setting even for that organization. But in the NBA this is just what we do, but then we hear from Kevin Durant says, regardless of all that you need to appreciate us coming into the game. We're excited about, you know, capping off kind of finishing off last season with the ring ceremony, but coming into the game. I mean, every game is not gonna be one forty. Two ninety nine shootout for a me. We, we're. Team that can do pretty much play tough play physical hard nose, close game east coast. Hi bashing, and we play west coast out. So you know, it's going to be more games like that this season, especially with teams trying to, you know, starting to catch up, but what we do a little bit, I started no more of our scheme. So you know, I think tonight was one of those nice that you know you start, you're gonna have to predate those type of games from us because it's going to happen more more times than not. Free. She ate the way we play in being appreciated is something that seems like it matters a whole hell of a lot to Kevin Durant regardless of what he tells us. What he claimed has been very clearly demonstrated by actions by burner. Cats being appreciated matters, and so becomes interesting to me and Zach Lowe. Put up an article on ESPN dot com. One of our senior writers crazy predictions going into the NBA season because again, this, what the NBA does. We got storylines plotlines for days the NBA and you see all this talk right now, the NBA surpassed the NFL's America's best sports league dumb. We need to stop doing that. There's no reason to offer that kind of comparison amazed that elite successful is the NBA right now and any of their fans of the people around it would stoop to this level to try and make themselves. You need help feeling good. You don't need to pick a fight with somebody that you're not gonna win in order to feel good. This is a quality league strongly. One of the strongest things that the NBA does is it creates these storylines the be as the best soap opera and drama going year after year, we have made the Knicks interesting in times when they need not be we have had drama going on behind closed doors at times. Sometimes that we can hear through locker room doors with the best team in basketball, the overwhelming best team in basketball and. When we can say all these things about it, this is why stuff. This is why it always reigns supreme because that glow didn't say anything that we have already heard rumblings of that New York knick fans have already been getting excited about New York. Knicks fans have been thirst trapping Kyrie Irving, and now getting caught up in the idea of Kevin Durant potentially in Knicks jersey as well. Zach Lowe. One of his crazy predictions was Kevin Durant science for the Knicks and the first thing he says, I don't think Durant or the people closest to him know what he's going to do. The warriors don't. They'll pitch him on his comfort in the bay area. Business connections there, and they're sparking new, sparkling new arena. The one for which Durant broke the ceremonial ground. I spent last season's finals talking everyone I could about Durant trying to figure him out. And the sense I got from the warriors was that they found Durant unknowable, and we're afraid even much of last season that he would leave surviving Houston. The conference finals finally cleared the atmosphere on the flight home to game seven Durant plopped in the seat next to Bob Myers Golden State's GM. Declare, I have never felt more a part of a team. Now, all that being said, we've heard rumblings. I heard this on the Dan lebatardshow yesterday from the note handed down to Chuck Salvatore that Durant's people had not some of them not outright denied this possibility. And then when you see the Knicks decide to not sign that rookie extension for Kristaps Porzingis it'll make him a restricted free agent after this year clearing because it'd cap space in New York to sign a max player. It leads you to jump to all these conclusion and the overwhelming thing. I can't get out of my head and maybe it's just this. Maybe Kevin Durant truly is an enigma. Maybe he seeks validation in ways that we can't comprehend. But why the hell would you wanna go do it for the New York Knicks. That part. I cannot understand why the Knicks, why all this? And we talk about Kevin Durant. Irving for that matter. And I could understand guys that maybe have ties in New York that like being in the city. But when you're looking at an organizational level in a league where we only validate you with championships and most of these guys Kyrie Irving, Kevin Durant have certainly prioritize being the man up there, but the moves have reflected. I would also like to be the man while getting the hardware that is going to get people off my damn back Kyrie Irving with a great chance to do that in Boston. Now, Kevin Durant done it the highest level with Golden State. Why in God's name? And maybe it is I want the next great challenge for Kevin Durant now that I've gotten a ring Kyrie Irving, we know already got hardware, but did it with LeBron James, both of them did it with a group that's going to still cast some doubt their direction. But for the most part, they're made men. Why would you wanna go to a place where everyone openly acknowledges. That with current ownership there, you're in a less than likely position to achieve success that as with most organizations, when you look up top, that is where you go into find out if this is going to be a sink or swim, when it comes to your team and your season and their prospect, I can't figure out why Kevin Durant would realistically want to go to New York and subject himself to that to the circus to the thing that becomes a great part of the soap opera, but unfortunately, not usually the part with the happy ending. I can't get it would be great for us, but for Kevin Durant. I mean, we can go down a laundry list of options that are probably better for this better for him than that setting. There. Thank you for listening to first and last podcast. You can listen and subscribe to all ESPN podcast. In the listen tab of the ESPN app. First and last.

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Roundabout Woes, Sarah Judges Chili & Game 7 Glory

Riggle's Picks with Rob Riggle & Sarah Tiana

1:03:46 hr | 1 year ago

Roundabout Woes, Sarah Judges Chili & Game 7 Glory

"Our next level next level with the excitement who's EM that I have for this fine rock, and roll podcast called rob Riggle. Hi, everybody. I'm robbery, and, and I'm with Sarah Tiana Incheon, and Gary the drunk now that is not true. Gary is not a drug but we like to tell him that he is mainly because it's the furthest thing from the truth. We're hoping that he satisfies an omen that we're predicting. We'll to put that even on them rookie, Bobby. Hey, it's wriggles picks, and we're so excited to be back talking to you guys. There's so much to cover. I don't even know. I live in a where to begin. I guess I'll start. Thank you. I'll just dive in yesterday was a trying day for me. I had my first Fender bender in twenty eight years now. Yes. It's not even my car. It was someone else's car. It was very it was brand new. So here's what happened. Sorry. I appreciate your, your sympathy, and your empathy. And yeah. As you're dying laughing, enjoying this this tale of woe from me. Okay, I'm backing out of a spot. It's at a there's a roundabout this old man comes whipping around in about one hundred fifty miles an hour as I'm backing out. I mean it's got the got the white lights. Got the red lights back in our couldn't be anymore. It's roundabout he women around. I say he smashes into the back of me. Anyway. Bottom line is nobody was hurt or anything is just disgusting. Fender bender. And you know it very frustrating. But for whatever reason I couldn't let it go. Now, here's the thing like you have an accident, your Drennan gets up. You know you, it's, you know you're drilling. It's just a it's a it's a stimulus response. And then you calm down after a couple of minutes and you kinda get your wits about you, and you're like, all right. Nobody's hurt. It's a Fender bender and it just move on. You know, we'll get a fixed. Everything's gonna be fine. But I'm telling you, I think I'm going through some emotional stuff. These days, I do have a lot on my plate. And I couldn't let it go like I was ramped up hot for like two hours for two hours. I was in my cargo fuck it kill everybody. I was furious. I couldn't I couldn't get it back together, which was a little alarming. You know that I couldn't let it go, and I found it to be quite shocking. And quite disturbing actually, it took me making a phone call to some friends and making jokes about it to give me laughing about it, then I calm down, but it was a scary two hours there, why? I mean were you upset because he was blaming, you know. No, he did not blame me and I did not blame him. We were very professional actually in our in our exchanges. You know we were like here's my insurance, here's your insurance. Let's take pictures of Europe vehicle. Take pictures of my, we were very mature. And, you know, I was Cussing under my breath. But 'cause I was mad at myself. I think that's the worst kind of anger. You know, when you're mad at yourself it, it runs hotter than anything else in my personal opinion. And so, like you. Yes. And so, I was just I because I think another part of his, I tried to drive extremely carefully. You know, I wouldn't say I'm a defensive driver, but I drive very carefully, and I like I said, I hadn't had an accident almost thirty years. So I felt like I was being I've always prudent in my approach drive on and so, to have something like that happen. It just got under my skin in a again. Like I said, I've. I'm fragile these days. I got a lot going on emotionally personally, just things happening, professionally everything. It's it's very overwhelming time. And I think I just couldn't get it together for two hours. Good thing was I was alone. You know what I mean? So nobody was around. It was just my personal hell. And then I got I got my shit back together serve mine car accidents for when they're young children, car. Loan. But also when you're alone, there's not immediately, someone that you can just like talk about it with. So it just kind of stews and festers. And like, and I mean, the initial shot like when you're backing up. Did you see like like did you see it before it happened took a took a look back around about? I didn't see anything. And then I backed out and I was looking to my right? Because there was a truck backing out one car over at the same time. So I was watching his moves, you know, it's because I was like, are we are we going to are you going for my going for one of those, who's going to take the initiative here who's going to take the lead like who's going to win this battle to get out first, but we were both backing the same time. So I'm kind of watching him to see if he sees me. And the next thing I know bang. And I look, I look back and there's this guy, and I'm like, where on earth, did you come from? And what did he say again? We didn't we didn't go into detail. There was no blaming, and there was no apologizing. There was just let's you know, let's just exchange. Our information, and we'll go about our business handle this, like manage just handle it, professionally. Yeah. That's what we did. But I mean it was a it put a funk on the day because then you start going by cursed. Classic overreactions you go. You lose off respective. Why God what you lose off respective, and then you're mad and the conversation you have with yourself. People should not be left alone. This is why I truly believe. Men are better, either with a spouse, a girlfriend or friends left to their own devices. They will spiral so rapidly left to their own thoughts with no one to check them and say that's not reasonable. That's wrong calm down. Look at it this way. Think about it from this perspective. People will unravel isn't that just been I guess it's women too, but it's, it's, it's people should not be alone. This is why we have communities, this is why we have family this. We have friends so we can get a hold of ourselves and I found that out yesterday. So it was good lesson. It was a good lesson. I called my friend, crispy. Who is all of our friends and. And I said, I said, you ruined my life. Laughing and said, why I said, because I was distracted thinking about something you had emailed me and had to get accident. And then he took full responsibility, and everything was fine from that point forward. And for the guy's car both of the cars. Exactly. My asking here. It's not just a little step up and take responsibility. Please Email me might be driving and reading your emails while I'm driving. It's just nuts, anyway. So that was that was that happened yesterday. And it's so it's fresh in my mind. But I, I did shake it off. And I got to watch my son win his first playoff game little league and they played an undefeated team. And they won. It was a big win. He went two for four played great had a triple, and a single and then made not the game winning catch, but bottom of the last inning. And he he caught one on the run in centerfield doozy. Oh, I mean, everybody went nuts. It was it was just a little I had again. I was dealing with a lot of money. So, so I went, I think I was like you're goddamn, right. Greatest catch up everybody socket. Yeah. I started tearing stuff up in the outfield. That are coming from behind him. Families got good visits. Well, you know, and I was screaming at blue blood vessels in my eyes, I think, and it was it was a special day. So highs and lows yesterday how was your yesterday? Yesterday was fine. It wasn't it wasn't that eventful, but Sunday was pretty eventful for me because I got to judge eight chili cook off. Oh, that's a dream gig. That's a dream. The only thing it'd be better than that is judging barbecue contests. Byron, and brisket son. Good. I can't finish the story when you're doing creepy. Wriggle barbecues. Licencees us lab. It was. Well we got there. And we found out, it was this guy had emailed or a Chris, my boyfriend about judging it and he was like, Gino anymore judges, and he's like, oh, my girlfriend would love to. And then our friend, good or net was. Just breezed by that, like it wasn't a thing. Good her neck. His last name. Good or nets. I wanna I wanna make sure I get this, right? Gooder net. He's a comedic actor obviously, that's his last name, or is that his full name, like share Madonna's? A one word is it Gudermes their shooter nutter. What is his name? Peter net shooter net Twitter is good or nachos. I didn't know Germans were funny. I mean the guy he's great. He's so funny. And you know he plays on a Chris's basketball team. And so when he heard that Chris going, he was like, I'm coming didn't even know he was going to be judging, but he went in going like, I'm going to be the Simon Cal this thing ruined some dreams. I already. He was going in full stop and, and you know, it's kind of like low key bucket list for me. Like you don't realize you wanna judge chili cook off until you get the opportunities and then you're like, okay, I'm we'll settle some scores. Everything's getting cleared up to. Once and for all. It's all coming to ahead, whatever this cute little chili cook off. And then we get there, and we find it's the California championships. Like this is high stakes. This is no joke. It's instantly feel the pressure because people like they're looking at you. Like this is my livelihood lady. It's like their dream. You know, man. Oh, god. Like beings. Forty. Like what he supposed to do. When you realize the stakes are that, like if they win they go to the national championship literally holding dreams in your hand, so were you cruel because sometimes you gotta be gotta be harshly. They've pulled aside. They have a little judges conference. You know, and they tell us like the give us a sheet, and, and there's nineteen different tilles that we have to try there's a lot nineteen. Oh, that's. That's. They do they range because here's my thing. I the spicy ones take me out. I don't have a palette for the super spies. Were you dealing with a lot of that? We were only judging the home style competition, which and their three competitions there's home style. There was Verde, and there was veggie. Out not green going in. That's right. Let's listen. I don't even know what that is that needs to stop right now. And veggie needs to stop to Chile is like barbecue in the sense that if you can enjoy to tailgate you can't enjoy it. That's your that's the rule. So good thing because had I been there for home style. I would have done it. The others, I would have just sat there and gone. No, no, no. We didn't end up judging the other ones because they were later in the day, and, and mom needs a nap on a Sunday, so wasn't able to all of them, but they said, you know, here's the rules for home style has to have meat and beans. And like important thing, people are not about chilling. Being sort of an expert. The meat to being ratio has to be right. Right. Because sometimes people get all crazy with a can of beans and dumped the whole thing in there, and it's so wrong more meat than beans. Okay, that's your rule. That's the wriggle roll. Well, I think that's international the respected. That's an international kind of thing I wasn't on the list of rules. It's the ratio are gonna see it written down. Is just understood among professionals. Your professional then. Well, yes, so it was like, you, you just had all these giant bowls of out in their own numbered, and you had to, like Mark, which one you started with. And then there's a place for notes, and they go now all these people are going to be reading your notes, so make sure that you don't just write good or bad, or whatever. So I sort of using words like texture and robust. Ratio took on judge language. Yeah. Yeah. I was trying to be like a fluorescent hints of oak. I'm getting I'm getting a being flavor. This has good kidney Bain taste, so you take a bite, and then Heathrow the spoon or spoke or whatever it was away. And they had tortillas and sour cream so that you could cleanse your pallet between the tastes. How full were you nineteen? Yeah, it was a lot of spoonfuls. But then, you know. Was there a moment though, I gotta ask was there a moment in this nineteen chilly the you're facing that one really jumped out at you're like, oh nine enjoy that? Like that's good been very first one. I tried was stopped the very first one, I can't think you know. Probably just really hungry for Chile right now. So I like made a notation to come back and double check, Mark the ones that I liked and then like the ones that I knew I wasn't going to vote for. I just tried to write something like. I don't know like this brawl somewhere else. Some like that constructive destructive. I'm sorry. Thinking that line. Not right. Barbara. Would have been a really good idea for a couple of this dragon gas back to the shop and redo it because it tastes like dogs diarrhea and sweaty gym sock throw away. Yeah. Yeah. One of them tasted like vegetables suit, one of them was like all me. And I was like this feels like a stew, you know, what have been interested in that personally. But okay. Yeah. And then I ended up voting for the first one, I came back to it, and I tried it again, what I respect about, you is the fact that you were mature enough and responsible enough to say this tastes good. But I know it's the first one, so maybe I'm out at maybe I'm outta whack. I'm gonna come back for a retail and if it still holds the same punch and voodoo that it do then you're gonna vote for it, and you did. That's responsible. So to all people in the chili cook off. And I know you're listening to all those people in the chili cook off this week here in California. You have responsible judges. Good. You did right? Listen. Wriggles picks on a few of them. Get my feedback there. But yeah, I mean I wanted they said, you know, like, don't feel any pressure like just vote for the one you like it doesn't matter like you know that you're not a chilly expert like these people know that, like they just it's supposed to be like, regular people who would want to eat your chilly. And so, yeah, I wanted, like I wanted it to not these, I wanted it to have like a, you know, a guest like a, like a less of a like enough of a broth where I felt like I could dip some Bredon it, but not like where it would be a paste and. What I heard amateur. She sounds very professional. I had a friend from high school and college, and he's still a very good friend of mine back in Kansas City will call them. Greg L forbidden candidate Greg L Greg. L. Intraday. Today. He entered a chili cook off thing and like because he fancies he's talion. So we fancies himself this, you know, cook cook, does your. Oh, yeah. Raised at ten and yeah, it's got to be dynamited melt- melt-. He went to the chili cook off which was in the in, I think it was on the inside of a racetrack. Meaning the infield of, and so everybody had RV's and it was like it was a yeah. And he proceeded to get so hammered that forgot to cook chili. I think he, he missed it. Just like just an empty pot here empty pot. Teapot, so impressed. Yeah. Yeah. You know, just imagine what this would taste like. Yes. So I ended up, we all talked after unlike, Chris, and Goudron edge voted for the same ones, and voted for like three completely different ones. So it just goes to show you that. And I don't know who won. I still don't know who won. Do think there's a difference between a woman's palette and a man's palate. Is that? Was more refined. Why, why? Oh, good. Lord. Here we go out. I never seen. Christopher both both boys. Picked the same chilling. Thanks. I but the top three they picked the same top three. Yeah. See. That's I mean, that's interesting. Right. Because on, on a blind taste test. That's pretty interesting. So I only want to know who won because I wanna see if I was right. Of course, of course. Assume your rights. It was just like the cast of characters at a chili cook off is just so fascinating. And I took a picture with a lady who had a little chili pepper hat on. And she, you know, she she was in a little mobile wheelchair just making the rounds. And then there was one guy there who was like the national championship. He was like the the champion and he's like, yeah. They don't even let me enter this thing. Bar like a card counter in Vegas. I can't I can't cook. You know, more see because I'm a great champion. Take it easy Morty. You're fine. Yeah. Because he walk around with, like a grand champion sash on. Everybody knows he was grand champion stirring, chilly with a giant trophy, which I thought was a little much. The guy the guy that Brooks guy that hired us to do this, or sought us out to do this, like he's wearing bacon pants. Yeah. Yeah. Pants that looked like bacon. Not actually made out of bone. No. They had bacon all over them. Yeah. He's like, you'll find me. I'm wearing vacant pants. Okay. There were fourteen people. They compete nuts. But yeah, and then the there, this, the sky, I think his name was Sam, that ran it, and he was wearing, like, Wrangler jeans and a Stetson hat. And he was just like exactly you want to be the Commissioner of chill chili cook off. That's exactly what you want. Yeah. There's like an ICS international chilly society. That's like the head of it. And they were all wearing like these like on their shirt. I'm glad you brought this up begs. The question the people watching must've been off the charts. Yeah. I mean it must have been really spectacular. It was extremely spectacular just like the full range where you have like people who are just super tattered up, you know, and to like, just little. Yeah. Just like prison Chile or. Prison silly, and you're not wrong. I've magin these folks cook, damn good prison Schiller. They're you know they they. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They, you never know what's going to be the fully Ted folks. They're one of two breeds, the people that really believe in it, and love the art, and the and there's other people that are just that's their personality. I'm either all in or I'm not all in all time it up. Or now I'm not a super Christian. I'm all in. Now. I'm out now. I'm you know, they can't do anything halfway, they'd have to do it like full-bore. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I imagine they're like a committed to the now commits Chilean, and that's just the way it is this guy, take it easy, man. Take it easy seek out a little balance. That's I mean, there was like some Korean kid that was like his first year and Brooks Life, first years here, all by himself. Like, like you have to come with a team entourage support. Wad. There are a lot of booths where everyone was wearing the same shirt, you know, and there was also a bunch of barbecue places for the tasting tickets. You could use your tickets for the tasting of that, or some people had little side items with your like they'd made like this Honey corn. Bread or you could just take whatever you wanted, and it was pretty good. It was an like beer tents, and alcohol and stuff. And so there's lots of that going on. That's a really good time clean Mary. It was lovely was a beautiful day, so we got really lucky with that, and it was a really funny experience. I don't know if it was every year on mother's day, but I felt like it. Well, nothing another celebrates mom like a big bucket. Silly. Down for that. Yes. So we got back and then there were two game sevens in a game five of game of thrones. So it was quite quite the Sunday. Here's the thing. To our friends out there. Obviously game. Thrones. It's coming to an end. I won't read anything on social media. I won't look at anything because what I've had to do is go back to two thousand eleven and start from scratch. So now I am halfway through season two. Oh, wow. Working my way through the program trusting the program trusting the process, but I'm four five six years behind everybody right now programming. Like, I feel like that's just in general and note about you across the board. What I got an iphone four all good in the hood. Whatever by the way, you know, my new global travel mystery show. Yes, sure that's going to be coming out on discovery. I have to go get scuba certified for this show because we're going to be unlocking mysteries all over the globe. And that means underwater to because there's mystery see did. They make karate. Well, they're about to. What if you'll get scuba certified which is like three days out here? It's, it's real. Like I have to go out to first day out in Malibu, you know, ocean dive. And then I have to go out to Catalina island and do like no kidding series of three dives and, and deep like one atmosphere, thirty feet down take my, you know, take the air out and clear the mask and you know I'm like, what is going on? It is a no joke written exam, like the of course. Back in the old days you go in. You get certified in a pool and you've done go. And now it's because, because anytime you get certification now or you have to require license or certification to do something. They're upping the amount of work, you have to do the amount of cost for the fee. It's all about just extracting money from people. So, so now this is a three day blown out of the water extr. Agana and it all starts next week for me. So I could be there to just watch. The thing I got a very special wet suit that has knives all over it. And a spear gun. Oh, I've got a big spirit gun. There's knives like painted on real superheavy knives big knives. And there's more than I should have probably. But I believe in safety, and I've got a spear gun, which is, you know, to shoot a spear through the water. Think of the thing I much forced that has to have. So it's scary powerful and I'm not sure how to use it. Really don't even know if it has a safety. But that's not I'm not worried about that. You're not well, I am. I'll be honest. I'll Severi worried about going river and I think you'll be okay. Well, that's always been my motto. I'm like a shark I only go forward. So anyway, I've got I'm just armed to the teeth and I'm sure I'm going to get some pushback from instructor but it's not hitting not his yeah. It's shark season out there. Listen here Kelly's going out like that. Cody and Kelly. The amount of push back. You're going. You can't have that you can't take that with you. You're not going to be able to use that Dr Pepper oxygen. Disagree? Why do you insist on having a helium tank? It's funny because my voice is funny. When I've read helium. Cody God put it together wizard. This isn't rocket science. I, I would never I don't think I could be I would be able to do a dive like that. I'm just way too afraid of the ocean. I told you I'm I'm terrified of dying in the shark attack. I'm probably just afraid of dying in a bathing soup. Like, I think that that is the ultimate. That's just my biggest fear. Just like I know you've gotten shark week. My wife and Chandler keeping courage to go deeper. And I I'm like, I don't know why guys are so dangerous. Go down deeper. They're like just please do it. Do it. You need more weights around your ways. Put a lot of weights on your ankles, and your ways. But I don't know. Maybe they're trying to feels like they're giving me a message. I don't know. Have you seen any papers policy new insurance policy? Chan says. Wow. Well, I can't wait to hear more about that speaks. I'll I'll I'll give you full brief on. How that goes, I, I am not coming out of that water without a shark into my sphere in your math. Even though I believe it's illegal to kill Chartres. Well, it's legal to do anything California. I think I had to get permission to breathe the other. But I'm I'm sure touching an animal in a non positive way is against the law, not illegal to go around around about ninety miles an hour to old time rock and roll. Drove up my backside. He was listening to that as. Just jamming. Twenty three. They have an old man. Why y you. Mileti alls. Oh my God. I'm sorry. The world decides awesome. If you watched any of the game seven on Sunday, but they were both really good basketball. The one I did. See portland. Yeah. Raptors Toronto Toronto, Portland and wrong. No, it was. Well toronto. That's the seventy Sixers Sixers. Sorry. It was the Sixers seventy Sixers Toronto and Toronto hit a buzzer beater, bounced bounced. And then it went in, and it was the most delayed gratification. But when it came through it was. It looked like the entire arena, spontaneously Jackie at the same time, which is a lot for Canadian Canadians. Don't do that. Yeah. They're definitely don't enjoy it. When they do well, what was so great bounced four times. We counted it because Chris, and I were sitting on the on the couch watching it. And you know it's tiger game and they have four seconds left and you're like, oh my gosh. Like this is going to go into overtime. What a great way for game seven to go and, and they get the ball, the Colli and Embiid is guarding him. And it's just like the most incredible shot like to even three four down. It was it was so insane. First of all, collide, Leonard is such a quiet little mouse. Like nobody people always talked about it. They don't know what his voice sounds like he, he had that epic press conference before the season started where they were like where he was, like, I feel like I'm little fun guy. You know. He's such a mystery. Incredible. Nick my in the league and, and, you know, when he when he played for San Antonio. That was kind of the rub. It didn't really know if he was like a leader, or, you know, and they're all these questions about him, and it's just because he's just like a quiet guy kinda leads on the court. People are introverts. Yeah. Let us play to talk and for. Yeah. And so for him to have any reaction after that shot went in was like it was like the world was just. He's alive. He's it bleeds. It was. Beautiful. I'm not necessarily affiliates fan I don't really have a dog in that fight. But Joel Embiid is a Jay hawk. And so therefore, I have a little loyalty to them. And when I met him. He was very kind to me into my son. So I like him and I knew he was heartbroken 'cause he took it hard like it's, it's not fun to see. It's, it's nice to see that people these players care because it's really easy to look at them. And they're you know, they're not playing both ends of the court or they're overpaid. Or whatever you wanna say all the cynics out there have an opinion on that. But it does matter. And you could tell he was deeply wounded, and he deeply hurt him that they lost. And they, you know, anytime you put your blood sweat, and tears in anything. It's gonna matter to you, especially when you put it all on the line. So that's I think that's why sports is so spectacular is because it brings out the, the true best in you. Yeah. As far as competition and effort. And so, so anyway, I did feel bad for for in bay off of for him to see him. Get emotional on the court was as you know. And Gonzala went to him right after was like consoling him, you know, and it was like this beautiful moment of just team spirit. And, and, you know, just just mutual respect for another player in another team and anytime there's a game seven that's going to happen. Somebody's going home, sad and somebody's going home happy, and it was it was just it was just such a good game. Like the whole way it was it was a good game. And the same with the Portland nuggets game because Damian Lillard got them into that series with that incredible. Like walk-off shot in the last round and for him and the nuggets the nuggets played a really hard game really tough game and Portland came from down seventeen to end up winning that game points. And it was just like you just it was just incredible. The way that they won that game. So both game sevens were credible on Sunday really way to go. By the way, if you heard vacuum just fed on in the middle of what's there saying that's a shop vac? I've got some guys out there, building some defenses around the house. Mainly long along would spears pointed outward. I'm fortifying. State. Yeah. Castlerock I like to call it. So anyway, again pardon. That is just craftsman out there cleaning up the mess after building the wood, the woods spikes. The ramparts around CASA Di glove. Glove. Great way to, to put it. All right. So tell me what else has happened in the world. Well, the Lakers hired a new coach. So that's kind of been in the news. During. They're gonna do, we're gonna and new uniforms and new sneakers. How about dealing with the problem? How about that wants to deal with the problem? Yeah. Well, I guess the, the whole thing about it was just that like Tyler who was the old Cleveland coach who had coached LeBron and kinda already knew LeBron was and how to coach LeBron. It's very it's not easy. They only offered him three years. And he was like, f you, you know, like I deserve way more than that. I love this team to a championship with LeBron. Like, I know what I'm doing, and they didn't give him any respect and they hired Frank Vogel. And then Jason Kidd as, as the assistant coach. So I don't know what's going to happen. Well, like Jason Kidd. Yeah. I like him a lot. And I think he's he comes with a lot of passion, and, and so I like his style. I'm it'll be interesting to see I think their problems, they're trying to. Put a band aid on on, on a sucking chest wound. They need to they need to deal with the problem. And then go forward, they're trying to put cosmetics on it. It's not enough. The answer is of the answers are hard. So, but no one wants to make the hard call. Yeah. The answers like LeBron goes somewhere else that or or the rest of the team should go somewhere else because they got no chemistry. No, they definitely go. They're not talking to each other, and the haven't figured out how to play together. So unless they all come together because all right now they all think they're superstars. Well, good luck with that. You saw what it didn't make the playoffs. So with that mentality. So what else that's really most of the stuff that's going on. In sports. Obviously, the NHL playoffs are happening and say, royals you didn't look up stuff. There's nothing on here about them and I'll tell you what's going on with the royals. Tell me the they're playing the angels next weekend coming here to visit us. So that means bad news for the ancients with monster billion dollar roster billion dollar roster as the DA, which is like my favorite thing to players on their team that they're paying six hundred fifty million dollars to two or three holes and trout and that right? Didn't get that four hundred million and pools how to, to fifty. Yeah. You got to players that are that are raking in six hundred and fifty million. Did you see that pool halls hit is like two thousand and RBI? Good for him. And it was a home run went into the stands and the STAN caught it and with, like super excited and won't get the ball back. You know, the MLB tried to strong arm and like try to offer him, like a jersey or something. And he was like, keep it just try to make. They tried to shame him and make him feel bad about it. And he's bad bad move. Bad move. Ed moon doesn't care about money. He just wanted to he's been coming to Tigers games like his whole life. He's never caught a foul ball any ball. And he catches pool holes two thousand RBI. I think there's a balance here. Yeah. I mean if that ball belongs in Cooperstown, okay? Make an argument for that. But then, justly, compensate, the man. Yeah. You don't just give them a jersey and shame him. Yeah, that's not gonna cut it now. And if you don't like the fact that he got it, then come up with the new stadium system where fans can't get a ball. That's just that's crazy. I don't like that at all. Yeah. It was pretty messed up. You'll bike season tickets for life or something. I don't even that's fine, especially if it could be passed down generation like I would do that. Also, I have a sense of nostalgia. So I if I caught that ball, I would be inclined to give it to them, so they can put it in Cooperstown, or, or he can have it for his personal collection. I would be willing to do that, but not for free. Jackie wasn't even I mean, honestly, and I'm not talking about extortion. I wouldn't I wouldn't ask for craziness, but like season tickets that I could enjoy with my family, so we can keep coming to games and then they get passed down to my son. Okay. Great. Then then then then you can have that ball, sir. And it's done to me. It's like not even like the it's not like his like last home run ball ever. It's not like the two thousand like it got him into the teeth club. But it's like, you know, pool halls is like no I hit it into the stands and his ball. And if he wants to. Keep it he can have it like the like the fans buy tickets to the game. That's why they buy tickets. Not just to see us play. But so that they can maybe get rewarded with a souvenir. And like if that's what he wants to do. Then he should keep it like would Roger marris hit his sixty first home run. The fan came down and, and Roger was very much like it is, you know, like even though that was at the time that was the, the Mount Everest of baseball records. And he was like, no, this is his ball. He caught him. Do what he wants with it guy said that he has a son who's about to be born, and he's like, I just want to get it to him, so that he can have it his whole life. And it's just like. Memorabilia, set can just stay in our family. Like I don't think it has to go, by the way. I don't think the pendulum swing out the other way to where people start extorting. No because it's ridiculous to. That's just that's poor form. Yeah, that's bad sportsmanship. That's cook. Farm, it's just bad. You know it's ugly. It's ugly. But, you know, I think fair's fair, you gotta, you gotta find that fairness. Yep. If you want the ball back if you don't just quit arguing and don't shame a man or a woman for keeping it now. That's the rules Dem's the rules like real like the rule change them, but don't shame him. Good luck getting via to change rules ever. So I was fine with it. I just thought that that was like a Bush loser stink. A terrible move by the major league baseball is there anything that we need to talk about before. I thought Robb if he's looking for new property might like to know that I'm nunchucks are now legal in Arizona after the governor signed the law, lifting the ban that was on. It was in result of the, the nineteen seventies come food, craze this so you can now get your, your nunchucks on Zona finally, they I have been lobbying Arizona legislature since nineteen eighty one when I got my first set of numb, Chuck, and I'm so glad it's been a long road, but we did it guys. We did it, and that's why believe in the system you can change things you could change things. Also on mother's day, the Padres changed their Twitter handle two at Madres to celebrate mother's day. Wasn't there like marketing ploy? Did they what happened, but they didn't do it properly dummy account. So somebody immediately took the Padres handle. And what looked like a twenty one year old kid who was just out of college at Padres, for like, eight or nine hours until the Padres contacted him and they rectified it. But I mean he could've done the same thing with that ball. He kept that account. But here's the thing, obviously, they made a mistake, and, you know that, you know, that person's probably going to be fired because, you know, you put the organization in real trouble when you do stuff like that. But this is what I'm talking about people have lost their minds. Now this kid obviously did the right thing and gave it back. Okay. So I'm not judging him actually celebrating him because he did the right thing. He gave it back. It's people make mistakes that's part of life. But when other people pounce on it and capitalize on it, and try to get rich. Oh, it's just silly to me. Yeah, let's silly and it's awful. It's bad manners. It's poor. It's just a it's a scarcity mentality. It's just all bad all bad. The Rams moved to LA and that one girl had LA Rams that account because her name was, like, Laura am, like Laura m. And so her account was, like, Laura Laura EMS. So they're like. Can we have heard? That's different totally different because she was I for. Sure. And they, they want they, they want her claim. So now they have to compensate her again. No, you go to seven billion dollars million dollars. Well, stop, you know, like that's crazy talk. But you should be compensated, and get creative. You know, if you know they're not going to give you cash, what do they have? Well, they got tickets. Give me two tickets for life, and you can have it sell them at the exactly. The gate. Now they're worse than things. We just got our. We just got our PSL's for the new stadium. We're finally, like locked and loaded first seats at the new stadium or you really pretty excited. Congratulations. Take it. You'll be going every game not every game going. We're going to get hammered. Just what I need those worlds colliding Chandler, did you have something that you wanted to discuss story for you specifically for Sarah? I'm out. I know she'll like it. It's from Nathan Lawrence. He sent in, but a self proclaimed Saint was arrested in coastal Florida town after screaming obscenities and threatening to unleash an army of turtles on everyone. Self proclaimed Saint like he said he was like a religious Saint, not just the same for leading turtles go. He's from Florida. Just want to be real clear on that every screaming obscenities. He told so he told nine one one operator. That they needed to leave now or you will all be sorry. You've fucked with the same and said that he's going to send his army of turtles, on everyone at a seven eleven parking lot. So he didn't actually release any turtles. He said he had an army of turtles. This is from I would take that threat. Seriously? You have to you have to take all threats seriously in Florida. Yes. Especially a Saint that has an army of turtles, because he didn't say was releasing the crack. He's releasing the turtles. And I don't know if you've ever done battle with an army of turtles. Right. Of course they will slowly. I mean you have time to pack you have time to get in your car and make some distance. But they'll get you eventually may take. Sleep in if the if the turtle invasion, happened under the command of Saint, whatever his name is Saint Florida. Third. I would have enough time to get in my car and drive to Washington state, where I could live probably for two decades. In relative peace, and harmony, but eventually, they're going to get to me. Just one small step back four decades because they have to cross the Rockies. Turtles going across Rockies. As a job, it ain't gonna happen. Fast will happen. I don't even think about the Rockies. Oh, gosh things. I can't do it in the winter. So they got like three months to get over. Those Rockies good luck, turtles reminds me. I don't know why this is reminded me of this. And I maybe but, like I open for a wreath of Franklin, one time in Santa Barbara, what an honor. Yeah. A huge honor it was just her and I on the Bill, like, you know, the good old days and the ticket like she came out like it took her like an hour and a half to come out on stage and I have a bit about it, but I just talked about how like the ticket was really expensive. And she only did like four songs, and then, like walked off stage, and we were like what the reason that tickets expensive is because she was doesn't fly anywhere. She lives in Philadelphia. She lived in Philadelphia and also, so she had to travel by bus, but she was also terrified of mountains and wouldn't drive over them. So they had to trick her and drive over the mountains while she was sleeping. And I'm like this is the woman that's saying ain't no mountain high. And that you know what I mean like this like the most ridiculous except for that one. And that all the mountains. But when I think of crossing mountains, I think of Aretha. Mike, how she would be. This is really cool, by the way, eleven says the throwaway to you open for a wreath of Franklin like that is a special deal. Now, obviously, you're a comedian. But I'm assuming you were singing. You want to that yet. No, I was doing comedy stand up comedy. They add a real mixing and matching. And I've always found the mixing and matching for an audience. That's there to see one thing like the reason I bring this up. I did. I remember opening for standups with my improv troupe and the audience of stare at us. Like we had Dick's coming out of our foreheads path did as part of the bat costume, bad cost him choice. But they would stare at us like we were from another planet, and they didn't understand what we're doing. We're like it's long form improv can, we have a suggestion, please? They're like this isn't comedian out, right? And they didn't wanna follow us that want to listen to us. They weren't interested in the scene work or so. It was I found when you mix and match sometimes the audience can be difficult because they're they have expectations of one thing, and then they get another. And so they don't listen and they don't focus and they're not with you. How what was your experience definitely were pretty? They didn't. Nobody announced me like they didn't go like here comes a comedian just walk out on stage like and it's just a coat open. Oh, that's terrible. Any five minutes I had to do. Yeah. And the whole they asked me to do it because I had just opened for Brad paisley at the Hollywood bowl. So they knew I had experienced outdoor amphitheater. And they, you know, they wanted a that's another great gig. Brad paisley open at first woman ever to do stand up there. It's pretty cool, but it was like just. You know, like no one knew a comedian at all. Like like they're expecting to see a reeks of Franklin. And then here comes me just like LA LA LA. Dick jokes. People were just like shocked. And so what happens is you, can you can really only play to the people in the front because those you can see. You can see. I've been there. I've been I've done outdoor gigs and no one's paying attention. You, you have the tables that are right there looking at you. And I had them, laughing and no one else listening. So I totally with that. Yeah. I mean, it was different the Hollywood bowl because I was like, I'm just going to play to the front and then like, I told one joke and like everybody laughed, and I was like, oh, man, cool. And then I said, you know, my dad's really tough guy because he during the Vietnam war, and everybody applaud it and I was like, oh, shit because the joke is mostly in bars with his friends, because he did not go like he was supposed to. The country concert and I just said my dad fought during the Vietnam war, and everyone of want it, and I was like God, we're revenue. I was just gonna cut that off right there and move on taking applause and move on. Do that. So I said the joke and I was it was like this moment where I was holding my breath in than it, took a second for the laughter to hit me and thank God, it worked. But, like, yeah, I mean with a wreath, it was like the whole reason, like the whole reason I was upset about her waiting another hour to come out after me, it was like the whole point of having a comedian est that don't have to move a band equipment. Of course, the spare the set is set. Yes. So to speak, and comedians cheaper, and like she can come out right after I'm up and I say, she's not even there, you know, she hasn't even arrived yet she running on a wreath at times, and don't. Nobody tell me when the star like oh God, you know, and then I went they gave me tickets to the show, which makes me like, anytime, something's free. I'm just like, oh, sweet. I forgive everything, and, like I was sitting next family, and I was like, what she like. And they're like, oh well we've never met her. We don't know. And I was like. Oh my gosh. Like she just doesn't talk to her family, and I was like, that's an option. I never even thought I can do that. Yeah. That how option? Why did I ever think of that? So, yeah, it was quite the experience. That is fascinating. I never knew that. Yes. Really cool. By the way. Congratulations on being the first female stand up to play the Hollywood bowl. Very. That's very cool. Feather in your cap and also open for Brad paisley and read the Franklin. That's pretty darn special to those are cool gigs. Did anybody throw like cow shit at union? At the Hollywood bowl or dog shit. Whatever anybody human feces. Great. You really killed it. That's also really nice. Then it's good. I especially Brad, you know, he's like a class act. So here's a class act, I never met the man, but I've always thought his demeanor and the way he presents himself now you know, he could be he could he could beat dogs. I don't know but he seems like a really sweet guy. He's an incredibly kind incredibly generous man and his wife, Kimberly Williams, paisley, who's from father, great actors. Yeah. Actress and she was there and his friend Bill who's William Shatner. Like just all these people are cool. No pressure. That's a very cool special night, though. When when when you get to do gigs like that. The member will gigs the high profile the, the big ones, they stick with you. And they're very special. I'm glad you got to do that. That's really cool. Gary ac- in with papers over, there was always scares me. I just I wanted to get in a listener question from the wriggles picks Facebook group. Oh, yeah. This is from nNcholas cook. And he says, saw this headline and wanted to know if Chan has a sister of Florida woman has been accused of taking methamphetamine and driving a motorized shopping cart through a WalMart while drinking wine and eating sushi, and cinnamon rolls. Well, we had a similar story, we have similar turn award nominee, who was driving around K mart or WalMart parking lot, and a jazzy one of the little scooters for old people and drinking wine out of a box. Pringles cut up wriggles thanking Pringles can. Frivolous can. So this sounds like a friend, or at least a copycat. I watch law and order. There's such a thing that law copycat murders out there, trying to get those headlines. Now we got another woman driving around in jazzy, and sushi, and cinnamon rolls, though, that sounds like a stomach concoction that doesn't sound like a lady high out of her mind. Marijuana. Although we as Stephen, as says, on the we think Chan definitely has what where do I get a scooter? Anyway. So how is your sister feeling? Good. She's having episode. On them day. We all have one of those days, Georgia, and Alabama Representative get Sucio, WalMart, see, that's they do in the frozen food section shrimp, cocktails pre pre made tiny little shrimp. And it also slimy. They're never any good because all went. And they just thought she was point soy sauce in her mouth, too. I like the word sushi in WalMart. Just don't seem to go together in my mind. Like, I don't know if I would ever buy sushi. Says she from gas station one time. Oh my God. You're the one way they people talk about that all the time in the hospital allows fine the first time. But then I try and now is in the south. But then I tried it out here on Ventura when we're in the writer's room. And I got food poisoning. So then I saw bunch of writers go and I was like I don't like you so you can eat. You sabotage than you let them eat the poison. Man. I want you everybody. I hope you all heard that. These women will kill us, what the poison sushi. Just one turtle at a time. Just releasing them. Boy, this is she's saying, she's looked me right in the eyes when she said that. She's still doing that, that bloodless stare. Well, do all that stuff at your your own risk. You know, I, I live dangerously we all know that too dangerous about creating Florida around your house. Well, yeah. Tried almond milk. Once that's your dangerous. I did. And everybody saw witnesses, no joke. That's almond milk. Have you ever melt to nominee? It's not natural. But I did it. Milked one. Well, I didn't I didn't some other fool did I drink the milk, though, I roll the dice and I came out on a hot seven so everybody can suck it is my bottom line. None of this makes sense. It's just me running. My mouth is selfish. Tain. Every time we come to your house, there's no one here and I imagine that you were just walking around saying these things. Mumbling you God, damn. I tell you what, man, driving smashing. My car. I got a spear gun walk around certain roll the dice. A lot of Rick flair. You're on different level today. God, I should be so lucky to watch Rick flair videos or Harley race bulldog. Bob Brown, some of the old classics. People knows all this great wrestlers from back in the day. Thank you. Throwing out nicknames that you wanted to be called. Oh, well now I do. Hey, by the way, I saw some viewer mail where? Some guys wrote in and they, they took our viewer mail. And they made it about their podcasts. They're like, hey, come on my podcast and come on my podcast. And so there's a bunch of those requests. Limoges say thank you for the invite. I am honored some of them are military podcasts, which I love you guys, I respect you and I thank you for for doing that. I also thank you for the invite. I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon unless you make it easy for me. Because I'm busy, maybe didn't hear about my scuba school. So unless you come to me with the microphone and ain't gonna happen. But I do appreciate the invite and God bless you. And thank you for your service. I got a question yesterday that I don't see on this list. But this guy Kurt buyers tweeted at me like to see if I remembered a specific photo, and it was me at the Nike outlet in my hometown, where I used to work with all these, like, buttons on flare, flare layer, just like from, like some sort of. Yeah, it was like, for whatever sale we were having that's you. That's me. That's not you. That is me wearing the Nike outlets shirt. That's of course like twenty sizes too big for me. And I clicked on his pick. I'm like, how does this guy? And then I realize, oh, he was my manager at the Nike outlet, and he was such a fund manager good curb buyers. And he, he was super. So, yes, I do remember. I don't remember taking. Because that was obviously taken with a camera. And so somehow, you know, like that's incredible that why does not look like you. It doesn't look like 'cause I was sixteen. I was twenty five years ago. God woman, I know that's fun though. I'm all like between that picture. And now I'm older than that picture. You know, it's funny as you, you know, you live a life, you have a life like everybody else, and then you get into show business, and if you know, if you're luckier talented or what are both you, you start to get seeing recognize you start to get opportunities to do shows, and movies, and stuff. And then everybody drags out every photo ever taken and posted. And it's, it's just ridiculous. So there's, there's there's, there's this. I don't wanna give him any credit, but there's a some college site that keeps posting pictures of when I was in college. You know, party picks you know. What I'm drinking a beer or, you know, making a goofy face or doing something. And in the comments are like, oh, I'm not barest. Okay. First of all, like that was when I was eighteen to twenty two years old. Okay. I'm not I'm glad I partied, okay? I'm glad. And I'm glad I had fun. I'm glad I didn't spend all four years buried in books being a nerd. I'm glad I experienced some life and had a good time. I have no shame about it. So, you know, I'm not you're not getting me. Like you're not like ooh. Not going to get wriggle. It doesn't work. It just it just look at it. I feel sorry for you. That's all I don't feel like anybody's ever really posted any embarrassing pictures of me like even that one I think is like a door. And like it daily reminds me of, like we had so much fun at that job. It was such a fun job, and everybody that worked there was pretty fun. And, and I met great people working there that I would still love to this day, if I had ever kept in contact like a good person, but, oh, that's one of those photos of rum, which one is rob. I can't with the eyebrows from hell you making that face. Oh my gosh. That's so fun. But the someone took a picture beat the apple store, waiting in line to buy something posted it just gross. Gross, gross. Gary. Well, that was fun. Anyway, I'm glad to see that. And you you have change. You've blossomed into a beautiful woman, not that you weren't. Beautiful. Have bangs anymore, those banks the banks with throwing me a little bit. But anyway. Anything else care before I go down, Venice beach, and get my phone. All right. Well, if you're looking for me, I'll be down at Venice beach shirtless in a Speedo. Speier getting jacked getting two straight stone. Cold jacked. You mean rod, no buff, I'll be working out? It'd be the iron beach. Right. Getting my pump on wasn't nobody believed me when I say this, I've just never seen it happen. Well, you've talked about it. Because you never nobody was down when I'm down there. It's weird. Yeah. It is weird that you are there. The only time. No one else is there. Same thing at the DOJ. Oh. What I'm over in their practicing my high performance. No one's ever around. Well, what are you going to do live, live, Mr.? Well friends, thank you so much for joining us for real big, garett, any last, parting thoughts, Chandler, any last parting thoughts. Thank you. That was good. Any last parting thoughts? Nothing. All right. All right. You take a hot with. I'm gonna go get my pump on this has been riddled takes takes. You're listening.

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Mika Zibanejad, Goalie Superlatives

ESPN On Ice with Wyshynski and Kaplan Show

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Mika Zibanejad, Goalie Superlatives

"MORE ON CAR INSURANCE GO TO GEICO DOT com today and see how much you could save Emily Greg so as Devil's fan it's not been the best great news there's a quick way you can save money switch to Geico Geico could help you get great coverage at a great price and it only takes fifteen minutes to see if you could save fifteen percent thing on the ice but the New York jets up by Richard Hunting one win against the Dallas cowboys according to Bob Whiskey my dear father playoffs around emily it's all happening this week it's all coming up with ESPN and ice we're GonNa talk about teams teams one for the playoffs playoffs that keep in mind that my dad also made a wager on the jets at the beginning of the season but anyway I watched a lot of the devils in the first week of the season and I was left unimpressed here's a member devils that are hot trash we're gonNA talk about goaltenders are yearbook superlatives for goaltending in the Nhl you want to hear that and abandoned wording affinities from and we briefly talked about the devils foibles and lamented the fact of the mets are going to get another manager and then we talked about the jets New York jets defeat the Dallas Cowboys and I'd say this to you because I got a call from my dad from whom I get all my on top of the delusional fan going on but there you go devils plummeting down the depths of the Metro Division into the basement of the Eastern conference unable to defend any gene I'm Greg Luzinski. NHL Writer Amendment Kaplan National Nhl reporter so two teams are off horrible starts head of a team across the Hudson River that's quite well will join us as well here on the latest vsbn ice let's talk to show proper shall we it was Shitski and Kaplan it's espn an ice the podcast ESPN talks about hockey. My Dad said after the jets beat the cowboys emily he said why no next week obviously you don't probably beat the Patriots and then playoffs I five minutes this season there minus twenty five and shot attempts to minus fifteen shots on goal so basically what you're seeing is that when they get down to goal they're just like at the over seven and a half wins and laid like you know one hundred bucks or whatever so he's got that delusional gambler thing I am a Yin and Yang and even steven and up and down so as the devils plummet into the depths of the abyss of the Nhl once again hopefully Taylor Hall is still there for the next lottery pick so your ear buds a podcast about hockey featuring things to do with hockey from your friends at Espn it's ESPN on ice having a win yet not advisable as do this not Gregory so as sports fan knows when you follow multiple teams as always I wanted to throw out its you amongst the Plethora of terrible devils numbers the start of the season when they're trailing by goal at five on five which has happened roughly all right screw it make back this we are done though and they just walk away so as someone who has watched them closely amongst some other teams that are off the best teams particular that'd be forced the accuracy devils Andy Dallas Stars can start with else I 'cause they're freshman once again the Minnesota wild get no love oh the Minnesota while to of course I guess I guess the difference is that two of those three teams we expected to be good the top pairing defenceman but after that I'm not very impressed by the rest of the group but the goaltending has also been pretty gosh darn awful you've got I'm curious I was not crazy about their defensive group going into the season I do think yes PK Sudan gives you a theoretical number one guy that can eat a lot of men Schneider who vowed that he felt great going into the season last year he told me it was mental for him that it was physical then was mental this terrible cycle he was in and he finally feels like it's all the there and then he doesn't do great and then he got Mackenzie Blackwood the supposed- goaltender of the future who's also have some pretty bad numbers who do you think more is to blame is that the defense or is it with a lead Mackenzie Blackwood comes in and the jets rallied so bad for him then it was it was terrible it's the defense and so two hard to establish an offensive flow and often times the devils have been pinned in their own zone for minutes at a time and so when you see he knows the problem real quick because I know there's a lot of people that have seen the numbers in the team and are wondering what the Hell's going on it's simple if you can't get out of your own zone it's and it's a defense although I will say the ultimate irony is of course senator talking about how great he feels and he's in the best shape is an opening night cramping up directly affects their ability to score now that said their ability to score has been pretty good at times they put four goals on the jets put four I mean at what point do you look John Heinz their coach and say maybe this needs to be the thing that changes there's definitely been multiple times this season an avalanche effect of one bad thing happening and then another bad thing happening in the devil's just not being able to get out of the way otherwise element team doesn't mean that you can dangle the NHL Defenseman but it's still a team that's looks very lost and like I said Emily six game homestand already own one on it pastor gave a Broschi yesterday and then their defense fails them where they can't make rudimentary plays to keep the other team off the board and then also get back the other way you are not looking to establish zone time in the offensive attacking zone you're looking to get to the bench because you are exhausted so their inability to defend hitting that of course is the fact that John Heinz a contract extension in January complicating that of course is I don't even know who would be out there to bring in to coach the team heroes thinking right now because history tells us that he is very patient and loyal GM but history also tells us that he put a lot of resources and investment into this team this offseason have there been better science as the first couple of games share I think Jack Hughes for examples looked a lot better I think he learned pretty quickly that just because you can dangle the US the most well-constructed team at this point they're kind of a mess right now as as as the season starts they're not they're not scoring which was and he really really really wants Taylor Day and as much as Taylor halls like I know they're not doing this all because of me like they just WanNa make good team he knows it's all because of him and he wants the shell -Tarian do exhumed body of Toe Blake like what do you do with this for there's nobody left rounded team that's a contender and the only way to be a contender is to look like a contender and actually win some games so you know maybe it's pulling the blues playbook and fire coach early hoping it can turn it around when we talk about hot seats and what's going on right now I think John Heinz has to be number one on the list and there's just no bones about it usually when a GM comes in he wants to hire his own guy but I think that Bill Garin inherited this job it's his first GM job with so much damage control to do number two of that list would be Bruce Boudreau you figure so yes or no look say this after reading an interview this morning have you write that they're both gonna work together to the themselves out of this because I really like Bruce but I mean at some point you turn the page to a younger crew and then do you want bruce there for to be expected but also goaltending hasn't been all that hot which is again to be expected but their defense last season was at least pretty good anyways do you think the devils are going to be okay they're gonNA be okay I think they could because it is early and I I feel like we have to caution all these things but I do wonder what ratio and with Bill Garin With our old buddy Pierre Lebrun and Bill Garin actually had some nice things to say about Bruce Prideaux saying look I don't think the problem is him I've actually developed relationship with him I think everyone's always getting evaluated at all times but I'm kind of happy with where we're adding of building things together and you know yes that's not the guy that he brought in ms one in four start for the season wildly outscored a kind of kind of want to believe of the damage that Paul Fenton did it a very short amount of time that he knows this isn't going to be a quick fix and look Bruce Boudreau is season guy and as you mentioned there's no obvious from this penguin combinations or they go go sign todd Richards so the thing about the wild we all know that they aren't exactly all mice talking about how this is the most important road trip of the season that they're about to go on and of course right after that they get blanked out by the Buffalo Sabres but look fought one five and one start at the beginning of the season six point eight shooting percentage twenty nine hundred and eighty five else honorary hockey raider with that that Glenn also teams can score and can't defend the Dallas stars no not one of the reasons we love Bruce's he's an amazing quote for example we are recording this after he has morning Skate in Toronto and we know that anytime anyone's interest games how long before team executive has started calling everybody horse excrement again in Dallas I don't know if we're going to hear we're GonNa hear about it and they said what do you like about starting thirteen of eighteen games on the road and he goes well the meal money so pretty I'm still working owners are still paying the five save percentage which is a team say percentage which puts them actually twenty third in the NHL because the offense basement like when I think of when a GM is going to fire coaches because they have someone ready like give you an example the Winnipeg jets pommery if all goes downhill I could think Palmer is is killing goalie's left and right but still not re- expected to be with the kind of quality goals admitted they have on that team Dallas again thirteen goals in in seven already altering their lines they gotta figure out the power play that's his looked awful so far but I'm a little more patient with them because I liked the roster a lot better and obviously you have this all because they really liked their age shell coach Rask Alvin sent I don't know if the wild have I write in and ready to go or Garin is somebody already he's thinking of everybody everybody that was on that deep bench coach is to get new jobs they've got jobs whose letter Ken Hitchcock up to these days each county usual go to call it's just developing chemistry feeling comfortable with his new line-up so I think we have time here for them to right the ship remember we were talking about them being Horse Poo Poo I think they are when we talk Jim Montgomery like he is the equivalent of the seventy sixers and hockey world he talks about the process it's all about the process of getting radloff one goal seven games PA- Veliki as you said one assist in seven games not great Bob and John Klingberg there's a lot of cupcake's on the east coast right now so I think some of these teams that have have made mincemeat out of the Rangers devils and others may not be as good as we guarantee and Shira both trying to find that random Pittsburgh penguins both going for Tony Granato at some point to see if he wants to leave Wisconsin the thing about the Dallas Stars is they won last year in spite of having very bad offense they just could not score goals they great goaltending an excellent defensive group they were hoping that that could change this year with bringing in Podolsky that took a flyer and Corey Perry that those things would juice them up I still think there can be time one of the things that I do feel that quite that just yet but I will say I you know we've talked about this on this podcast already of people giving their big state of the team addresses you have Tyler Sagan after the team gets booed off the better and it's not results oriented and look it's a results oriented Lee you gotta win but I do feel like this is all part of the process we were doubting him early last year saying the kind of team that can do that the the interesting development though in the western conference is the fact that there are a couple of teams that maybe we thought weren't going to be good berated and we don't really talk about that much is when a guy comes to a new team it takes a little bit to get his bearings and yeah pavilion approach he's been in the League for a while but again plus minus fallible stat but also a good canary in the coalmine for some players is going to be okay is the question you on Blue Line for most of these games start the season maybe Patrick Leonard should have been on that top line all along who knows maybe Patrick way to get them going definitely on my fantasy maybe this guy isn't fit to be an NHL coach and he really did whippet together so I've got faith in them on Youtube is the kind of team given how it's built they've tip it's fascinating you know they oilers as you mentioned weren't Chicago so out there morning skate yesterday that'd be Monday and talked to a couple of players and I was asking and then of course the Juggernaut juggernauts even though the Chicago Blackhawks ran in there a little bit last night five and one ten points the Edmonton oilers there's been so much turnover in the management and leadership ranks that they just want continuity and I feel like there's just the sense of the team okay we finally have the they are but still a five and one start for the Edmonton oilers is a pretty impressive start and I will say this about them for all of the talk about the real deal they're real good winnipeg even though they got the doors blown off on home ice recently by Pittsburgh inexplicably eight point seven Games despite having basically mean coaching them he's known as a defensive structure coach maybe can make the most out of nothing with that Blue Line James Neal also start with talking about him in a bit that ownership is going to believe in whether that stays true or not remains to be seen this as Edmonton oilers after all but I think that's trickling down and like you mentioned you know we have James Neal one assistant seven games in the minus five braddock penalties to right reverend everybody was going to get to the sulky yeah minus TUB grabbed a Disney plus to hear emily say curse words that's where you can words under five dollars a month have you guys heard Jamie Benn one goal seven games her cleft bomb I was like what's the difference vibe or what's different about this team this year than last year and man clams and awesome guy to talk to he's mazing he's like James Neal who we'll talk about later in mcdavid Drilon who's been incredible sixteen goals in six games is the Dave tip effect happening in front of our eyes I'll say this about the oilers I want nothing more than to vote for Connor mcdavid with a clear conscience so the Hart trophy as you know alleviating some of the scoring pressure from Dreidel and mcdavid and then you've got dry it'll mcdavid still looking like stud so I feel about this team right now like you said it's Dave Tippett I will be first in line I will send my ballot in first to say Connor mcdavid for MVP unless it's dry style but also let's be honest six to rescue mcdavid it's amazing I will say that we're talking about awards voting I was thinking about it the other day and not gray Bob Department Emily Kaplan's although I don't know behind that lease defensive you won't all right let's get more now joining us is the top line center of the New York Rangers Mika Zibanejad and they can easily go on a run of twelve games and like eleven wins like Radulovich Sagan gets hot get some kind of point street yeah the powerful don't you cannot have over you gotta be in it to win it if you're not in the playoffs you're not getting my heart trophy vote for the oilers make it I will okay I would say I'm GonNa tell you good things we're five right now you should come to me and like a week or two and I'll give you an honest assessment but that's the thing is everything is going right with them right now Mike Smith for example we over nine hundred save percentage in October that's weird that's slow starts there's October ben Bishop there's October Freddie Anderson everything will even out eventually maybe this year is that a good Disney word to use now and of course they made the playoffs and all of a sudden look pretty good in the spring so you Jim Montgomery segment but vezina winner Freddie Anderson Bob Upgrade no again I still think the leaves are GonNa win the Cup didn't know how goaltending was going to go up hold up he looks good an Oscar said another thing which is that they feel good about having can haul and they're they feel good about having Dave Tippett there like the more meaningful games the Edmonton oilers play the better it is for for the NHL because it is I mean we are very close sending seal team six and we've talked about this the rescue conor McGregor Jack Adams early-season one John Lines who still the chance that he turns it around doing he's he's doing the classic checkout I just went back to eating like I usually did when I was in Sweden and what I did for about seven years and the thing is I worked for me that and you know it was obviously something I wish I I understood more of earlier Edmonton role of a sudden the leaky D. on this team is covered up by a good defensive quote it's the it's the Ken Hitchcock thing but it's actually happening the bar really well that's exactly he's really playing gaming the system and then I have our other pick and I believe you share this one with me and it probably leads us into our next I'm just trying to be a pro basically it twenty four seven and understanding the the the the the summer plan the summer and how it's making you feel now yeah so I mean it started started actually last summer just looking back at last year there is a clip on twitter I think the Rangers put it out it was a video and you were explaining that this was the first summer you kind of really understood what the obviously a team humor's wasn't what we wanted but personally I feel like it's a step in the right direction and obviously started with the summer Oh yeah takes takes a village to a hockey player that's for sure I wanted to ask you about playing with our Aaron what's that like is this someone who is thinking in that classic hockey sense ten steps ahead or is it just somebody who is so good in the moment that you just have to out this as much as possible and find substitute for the things that you you use to but I think food wise only be able to set set guys up and we we've had discussions over these these weeks and months we've been together ration- took to make the season and we see you're having a great start your play more minutes than every played twenty four minutes against the oilers the other night as detail for us what exactly did to change it she reads the play or very well and he's I feel like he's always ahead but at the same time he's so good back then and we're easy very simple and easy to get hold of as well so I was workouts and everything that went into it had to do a lot with the the the food plan the you know the sleep and recover and everything it is the second language but what are the challenges with having a teammate and even a linemate who can't quite communicate totally as much as you'd like to they're just GONNA have to win every game eight two seven just gonNa craziest Freddie Anderson never has good October numbers we just got this stat only one year in his career last year was the can so so did my girlfriend service of eating eating enough but so it's just not a not a one man job you have a team around me with friends and family I appreciate no we can I think it's I think he his English is better than people think and I think even even said that in a in a good way you pennzoil his English is a little bit up and down I think he you know we they're about just trying to learn a little bit more about each other of where we are on the ice and were most comfortable and how we WANNA play the game and the act to what he's doing athletically I think it's a bit of both honest with you he's obviously very very smart on at night pat or video whatever and it's not it's not that bad and it's obviously a easier when you have another Russian on vising in situations where you feel like there's no no real solution to it he finds a way to get out of the situation with the PUCK and and it's going on do you WanNa have the feeling of knowing where we are and not have to always see where the other one is and obviously that takes time that takes that that helps a lot for me to be able to speak and if there's something that he doesn't get then I'll just tell Bucci that and he'll translate interesting I guess the the result China is just a receipt of a complication of the hard work that's been going into the summer tell me about your thoughts now you've been with the Rangers for a bit now has this you know obviously what's going on right now you you you always step on the ice you always WanNa win seeing the players that left unbelie mature but I'm I'm happy came to Kim to realize what it really need to have to do and and yeah communicating maybe Some of that some some some of the messages I kinda come across get gets it had a lot to to thank by my my buddy that was saying diversity whispering all of the food for me and Kinda kept in and you're you're normal reaction and and you're I feel for it is right and now you're heading a different direction players that have played in the League as much not fully grown COPPA gets drafted Trueba comes in finance signs. Are you astounded by how quickly the rebuild kind of came together it was hard it was it was hard to kind of accept the fact that we're doing it as a player right away but again you see the town that's coming up this process started when they sent that letter to the fans did you think that this was gonna be a prolonged process versus how Jeff Gordon is kind of pulled it together you get excited but right that moment u u you feel a little bit disappointing but about the situation obviously and I feel and then we a lot of the talks we have we feel like we're on the same page assist sometimes the communication and that the way of the ways of I know gets mixed up a little bit but I think in that in terms of that I feel like it's easy it's easy to write on the board he's Kinda show on on I think I've said this in several interviews and so other people obviously when that letter came out as going out there and Kofi better for you mentioned Perrin's English I personally have the belief that I think it's a little better than he lets on he's probably not as confident using it time and when you don't play a lot it's it's Kinda hard to work on it but I feel like we're we're trying our best to practice now we don't have a lot of games it started actually after World Championship two thousand eighteen What the Games are coming up you you get more more feel for him on in a sense for it so I think you know once we get the the regular schedule contents so maybe maybe we bring them we have to Defcon two there at defcon three but now they're back at Defcon it's just I have to speak a little slower but it was the same thing for for me when I play with Pablo which is actually on our line as well right now so that I I think it's just been all excitement with about this group about the the guys have been added you guys are coming back so I think I think we can it would be weird if you didn't but everything that's been going on especially the summer it's you know you you get happy you get excited and I think that's and we got our we got the bonus for winning a give that away to the the the girls hockey and give up the give up give up I mean you try that obviously to give back and WANNA be able to give back to the people and kind of groups that are not as fortunate with the resources and program and it just started not too long ago so honest can't tell you how it's evolving in that sense we'll players players have been with the Rangers for a long time when they had their run to the playoffs year after year and what has the reaction been and if you give update on you know how that money might be affecting them and and where they're at now yeah so I mean it started start for the season blowing you know two three goal leads on home is not advisable you see what's going on with the organization as far as the draft goes players coming in the players that are willing to learn willing to to get better Quests so I think our listeners kind of know what's going on but you decided to donate you know portions of those proceeds to the women's national program so what led you to do that but you know the reaction has been great obviously and and I'm I'm happy I'm happy about that but the same sense says I know you own a restaurant that serves burgers and Sweden with your brother and two other business partners and we've talked about the women's Swedish boycott actually on his podcast with Hendrick loan before that always made me happy and then now we're the restaurant we we felt like we could do something as well and I always wanted my own was five or six teams I got split the money and it was something that me and my brother they're talking about and I've been expressing that that I wanna I wanna be at least you know we're heading in the right direction I think but I hope we can surprise a lot of people to make a last one for you one of the coolest stories I saw this Summer Ellen Burger on the menu that we on the restaurants everyone so work that well and that was one of the ideas and especially what was going on with that women's was exact feeling the locker room then you look at the schedule and you see you don't have a lot of games in the beginning season Kinda get especially with it but we keep going with that of your action was great the money was spent all obviously appreciate from their side and they they got opportunities that the and all of that that may be won't won't get much attention in for you know as far as economy goes and stuff decide that that can that they can help yeah we didn't mean to forget about Pavel like that make you feel like you're talking to lanes when you just kidding I was nothing we can do about it but I think just a just a feeling around the locker and move on from the from the coaches as well as something bigger something like continuing to in the future what's on the Burger it is a you want to start somewhere you wanNA know help out the way you can and and hopefully that will that will lead into something golly yearbook superlatives as we take a look at the NHL in two thousand nineteen twenty and figure out who the best of folks between the pipes are tomato sauce like Gimme GimMe Gimme tomato transforms in every single way except for raw sliced tomato just get out of here service with Geico you twenty four seven access to agents Thank you creepy girls Miss Year continued success I appreciate it thank you so much this place look haunted having a sandwich of any kind and having that tomato toxicity tomato slime all over my my beautiful tuna fish or or lunch meat or a burger most of Rita Goalie Emily Kaplan Sergei Rebrov ski right now look Emily I once again will pat myself on the back for not getting on my soapbox and going out of twenty minute rant about how the Burger at his restaurant is the right after we record this because I'm hungry for one and I'll have extra tomatoes just for you Mika that's a wrong opinion we'll cover that another episode where Jersey Great Tomatoes there yes I know I know and I know the thing about tomatoes I always hear is ever went to Italy and had a tomato in Italy there her goalies and golly talk so instead of just kind of going through the League and talking about we decided to do a little something different which will probably apply to other positions as the season goes on goalie superlatives apple so Yin and Yang it's my we worked well together on this podcast it's like Kaplan versus colon tomato wars it's time from the different than all the other tomato you've ever eaten fine you know what they still do they spit out a tomato Goo with seeds all over my sandwich the thought about making a a Vegan option that's we're looking into that as well but so I guess you know everyone can contribute even it in tuna fish honestly greg texture and acidity the two things that would complement a nice homemade patty and you think about it is that I like tomatoes and all other forms Salsa Burger for not having somebody to on it because tomato runes sandwich if you guys were wearing really glad you didn't get on that soapbox because I probably would push you off because tomatoes are amazing and I'm going to go have a burger exactly thank thank you so much for your time and continued success this season I saw I saw a couple of Rangers Games when I was back east and I gotTa tell you win or lose you guys are going to be pretty exciting looks great in the play offs and look like you know the murderer that was going to go down with that Columbus Blue Jackets team but he signs with Florida with this here with an onion rings and caramelized onion side of that on your ring and then just on the top and since my girlfriend's Vegan she she she was on me canal at the Guy Go weans which today for twenty four seven access to licensed agents are thanks to me gets bad of the New York Rangers for joining us as we've mentioned many times including on this podcast bloated contract including no movement clauses for a very long term and he comes out and his numbers are horse poop ended up being okay maybe that was confident but I am a little bit worried I remember what we talked about this at the beginning of the season Lou he does not look good he obviously has time to turn it around but just not doing it for me this year I think he's all times and he has a famous story about Oh Dallas Peres signing a big contract with the dodgers and then his career kind of falling apart because he couldn't handle the money I think so too creepy girls stay with that history truly frightening Michigan a guy wanted to I really want to believe in April Brodsky after last year's playoff run when he rewrote his own band word on around the horn narrative and in hoping since two thousand seventeen has a minus fourteen goals saved above average now granted there was one you know sort of San Jose Sharks and one of the rabbit holes went down was the idea of the psychology the psychological tests that general managers have to apply to athletes. AH THOSE WHO won't eat meat so but that's very Houston you need to get done it impossible bigger up in that joint not very good year for him in that mix but you know he was great in the playoffs no doubt led the capitals to a Stanley Cup guy before this contract but then you get ten million annually and it's a different stratosphere and then there's different pressures on you because you're seen as the the franchise I'm the guy who eats the Matz Rela off the tomato when you guys that's that appetizer restaurant then you can stick with his I'm the girl that buys a tomato I guess a little bit worried about the contract thing I have a story coming out this weekend. ESPN with the NED Colletti who was the GM of the dodgers he is now a scout for the guy versus maybe being part of the team there's a lot of external forces on the back of Broschi right now which makes me a little bit concerned about the start also he gave it four goals the devils so what is he doing now normally my answer for most overrated. Golly it'd be Jonathan Quick but I think he might be properly rated now people think he's and I'm not saying that circuit but Brodsky is a couple of pencils he's selling for a nickel outside the freeway entrance or anything here like he clearly was a pretty wealthy would it would stun you because if it doesn't stun you to see the rook take the job from the vet the net would tell you the vet is a little bit overrated wouldn't it Philip Group our now he only got thirty seven starts last year which was decent because they had to play that other guy that ended up getting paid a lot of money success his success is going to be a big part of it so I don't think he gets enough credit yeah I I would I mean he's going to get credit if he gets as many reserved for a long time he's twenty eight years old which is probably right about in the early prime and look I think he's great I think you know when we see the Colorado Avalanche in the last three three seasons in goal saved above average in that short span just a tremendously terrific goalie who simply can't stay healthy but I think like you said the fact that he can't stay healthy means they may not necessarily been on everybody's radar as far as being one of the better goal tender's in this league you look at them now rask through three starts nine five seven save percentage one three three Jay Hawk not far behind him three starts nine you straight to be the mentor to the goalie who's to say or he grabs his guitar becomes Jackson main like he probably should be goes and finds herself lady Gaga seems which is incredible what horrible run of luck for him and for the coyotes in that stretch but I mean when he does play a number just the fact that they put Samsonov on the roster I know that they're kind of justifying it like we had to be the Cap'n crunch work and that's why we sent Phoenix Copley down we're only saving who obvious answers here one of them is a team in the West one is a team in the East I'm picking at him in the east and it's too rask and Yaroslava La Begins Edmonton Him Lehner Soros and pack arena obviously Dallas has this is yeah so I can't really is that answer anymore so I'm GonNa go with someone that maybe people will not like to hear as being overrated and that's Brayden Hopi is a natural transition because this is the guy that was splitting the net with Hobie for a long time and then he was pretty coveted as backup and the Colorado Avalanche traded for that thousands of dollars accounted for them at this moment but they clearly believe in this guy that clearly wanna give him the chance then yeah I think this is the goal of the future and they're ready to get to the future Auntie Rhonda and he is underrated for one simple reason seventeen he's played sixty made the save of all saves in the final but what a what a shock you to see Ilia Samsonov take the job at some point this season they're both over the age of thirty two and look we know rouses reputation in Boston is it's kind of a love hate thing they love him when he's doing great in the playoffs Martin jobs just Martin Jones that's the only answer I worried so much about this Jose Sharks early in the year that are that are actually pretty pretty darn good so but we chose the right one team whose goaltending short-circuit their season you got two years in fact he's looked like a liability they have a great defensive group and were there still lending in that many goals it comes down to the goaltender and I worry and I wonder if they should have done it is we think he's going to get this season for what's going to be a really really good team but yeah at this point I think you're completely correct that he might be a little bit underrated my choice they also love to hate on him when he's not doing great but what are the reasons that he had such a great year last year is because they managed his workload and he and Yorislav really split the load and did great uh-huh and if that's the case you know two things happen then Raden Hopi goes off to another team makes a fine chunk of change a cup winning goaltender maybe even stays in Washington for New York islanders whatever I digress but put up pretty good numbers nine seventeen save percentage to six for GE he finally this year gets that number one role which he really deserves and lives the life that it should be living right now with that beard already and Halloween Mode Guitar most underrated goalie from the bottom still a good team still have some some guys that can play still can beat a good team on any given night provided they get above replacement it wasn't this year but all the smart people said Henrik Lundqvist people choose it's The Dallas Stars Yeah I could see that because Soros doesn't have the work history of the cadeau been does have one save percentage one six nine day I would feel comfortable with either of those guys in an important game and I think the Bruins are set up for success with either of them it would indeed and one of the more interesting things I've found is a I mentioned hope he's in a contract year he should be playing out of his mind right now and it's not the best starting to be this when he's healthy this goalie tandem I'm what out of all the choices here I wonder if this is going to be the superlative that match on it and I think that there's too before Patrick Marlowe came in a superhero and save the day and got them writing the ship onto the right track but Jones says hasn't looked great over the last no he's getting up there in age I know we haven't seen him in the playoffs on a little bit but if it's game seven I want Henrik Lundquist in my net since to address it this off season however they kinda were strapped because they spent so much resources you know signing crawls into a long term deal rightfully so for them but Elvis is still trying to understand the building now there it is there it is goalie you'd want to start for you in a game seven I I think there's like a few ten of us in the West that are sort of in that category right in Chicago of Corey Crawford plays as well as he did ski with a guy named Yoenis guy named Elvis and corpuscle is not played poorly I mean say percentage there hasn't been too much of finally goalie you most like to have a beer weth kind of touched on this last week we're talking about who would islanders beat them three four games in Boston I mean there's something to be said for that right cool ice I love that story villagers start the season I think both those guys at the end of the day are probably going to be right in the mix for lowest save teams they percentage in the league I think right now the blue jackets are forced media tour like if it's game seven who do you trust all the Canadians obviously see said carry price of the Americans Jonathan quick who I think would have been your answer hard for him to dial in every single night on a consistent basis but when he needs to get up for a game he will go ahead like the most start against he is and get to know him so practical reasons Corey Crawford just like I want to have a good time and laugh a lot Anton Khudobin I like I like this they just didn't have the capabilities to be in on a Robin Lehner is that like one year lets pay him five million dollars and see what happens I think that's a really good choice a ninety minutes because you're signing autographs and taking pictures probably with wing sauce and your face finally peak Canada anecdote peak would have been Putin considered it and it probably at the at the end of the day is the answer but I'll go in the direction and say the Columbus Blue Jackets as their replacement goaltending I'm not sure most nights they're going to get that so I would say this is still adjusting to North America ranks like number two goaltender and he hasn't played North America tactic taken because I think I'm going to take the same tact journalistically who needs to be loosened up a little bit that'd be John Gibson John Gibson be fun on color commentaries in Nhl broadcasts and so for me it's Anton Khudobin I was thinking about this and like if I would like actually wanting to get something journalistically out of it I think I would pick Corey Crawford because they live in Chicago and he's never available and I just feel like I'd like to understand who he I'm from e of course Jordan Bennington recency bias but I mean like the person that pudding you've read about them this week yeah wrote about in this week in Jinx them right the hell a good choice though James Rhymer I think James Rammer would be like Super Fun like I know maybe we don't necessarily share the same morals for what I assume would be light beer for him and a skype from James Rammer James if you're listening to this podcast let's have a beer ever ready yet it's great the lead to the story was phenomenal you identify the fact that goaltenders have weird superstitions detailed joined back Jeff Gordon Marc Staal no look I just think that the thing with Henrik is like when he's dialed in he's unstoppable and like I think it is aged two thousand six he is the Rangers six in tune game sevens it's the most game seven wins of any team that stretch I asked this question to a lot of players recently I think it was last year the player in having the most just intense superstitions and it was wonderful it was and it was also like him getting mobbed at a Buffalo Wing restaurant and Canada which is foibles and it's big mistakes lake for example a headline that catches the eye of a professional women's League sports net ran a really good story on the National Comedian Randy Good morning it's still cuss los hotdogs it's the segment each week retail look at the hockey media and it's hyperbole women's Hockey League that are Rutherford wrote but the headline on the story was quote M. I. Scab kicking off the this is always called out sports net and said what is with this headline Rutherford story aces headline bad so on the ice as the National Hockey League kicks off the most controversial season in its history so we've gone from M I a a enemy of Lee this is a player boycott slash deciding to bleed the league dry until it dies the enemy which L. Vision Hubbard up by the La Kings silly silly indeed going the it's my choice to but I'm now curious about the team in the West was a Nashville with who know everybody when you have the opportunity all right we'll go from beer to food and what has been a very culinary centric episode of ESPN and ice in two thousand fifteen because they haven't won the Cup since two thousand fourteen so that's the jinx it's the Taylor swift banner and it was a couple of brews me and him waxed Ingram saw about life you just want him to actually event about how the event is left them high and dry he seems to be a real spiritual dude and I'd probably be on the floor of the Barbara and in the night but I think that he and I would have nice conversations the Los Angeles kings have covered up the Taylor Swift concert banner in their arena which was raised essential questions injected position of what's going on that they're facing so good stuff by Christina absolutely all right ty headlines Dateline staple center obviously they couldn't shake off the jinx shake it off Kinda do I mean a bunch of shows in New York good job you have some bad blood with Billy Joel number two I love hockey we in the span of maybe a few hours well unfortunate headline changing aside dateline the real deal James Neal has eight goals in six games it was an excellent store and I recommend everyone read it and I think it was an important story to because it really humanized the people who are playing in the league this year and it highlighted a lot of the I think Quincy Susan's just Kinda like not I mean unless he's like an angry drunk I mean like I just not be so standoffish loose number there's a number of different concert banners that I wouldn't mind people like I could do without the Billy Joel banner in Ma- Madison Square Garden like congratulations New York artists does kind of set one down the path and this we only read the headlines Society to thinking that what the end wwl's dealing with as a player strike it's time for our favorite segment of the week dogs now he does not love to eat hot dogs we look at sad hyperbole and strange areas sports that change the new headline on the emily is not mis scab question mark. I need to play hockey all capital letters amazing good thing that like you're having wings with like your former goalie coach and then some junior goalie goes George Benson and then you can't get out of the restaurant like fun Lovin Dude who I assume would be my friend under the nails UN's no no no no no no line NHL Stats are a friendly egg heads in the analytics community are going that poop crazy some video evidence of this where they were showing an Anthony Mantha goal that I think the NHL said it was about six feet out that was actually scored from the crease this is a big deal and I'm still waiting my my parents used to play his albums a lot and that was very cruel summer yeah they read right now seeing red end of you. HDL's most controversial season now in fairness to the editors at Sports Net Ama- SCAB was a direct quote from a player but Mis scab certainly draughts Jeremy roenick compared seth rollins to Connor mcdavid and Keith Jones just smiled throughout the segment without saying anything this week when it was discovered that the NHL has changed the way it measures distances on shots are good friends evolving hockey has to hear back from the NHL and exactly why this is happening because it messes with the expected goals stat that which is critical analytic it messes with almost every it didn't work so now we're back on another thing but we'll get to it eventually dateline Monday night raw Kevin eventually figured to get rid of that German company that was paid millions of dollars to develop the technology and then that's a that's a Gretzky start within the context of oilers history are we looking at this year's rocket the deal and so the question is will the NHL recalibrate the way it's tabulating these a numbers or if the egg heads are going to have to come up with a new algorithm to adjust for award-winning emily no but we're looking at a guy who's going to regress back to the mean and his mean was not what we saw last year I think honestly NBC at this point it used to be on NBC but all of a sudden the studio show for the NHL NBC showed up on wrestling and here you have meat on a paper waste now I've never held one of these cups I'm assuming early at times a couple of kilos shots couple of Lila Lion Lime licks being good shape the guy but my choice Pepsi Center the home of the Denver Nuggets Colorado Avalanche is teaming up with ball corporate projectile is responding my only take away when I read this story with I'm glad that we're taking some of the burden away from plastic straws with the NHL is doing either way yeah let's get let's get on that puck tracking and player tracking so we don't have to do this nonsense anymore wouldn't that be fun when did that demonic David Kline so congrats James Neal heck of a start and a good reminder that sometimes all you need a little change in scenery to

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