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What it Means to Talk Like a Leader with JJ Brun

Talk Like a Leader

18:38 min | 7 months ago

What it Means to Talk Like a Leader with JJ Brun

"Welcome to the top like a leader. podcast where we explore the mindset skill set and habits of leadership communication using these tips techniques and tactics. You'll be able able to talk like a leader to build better relationships and get more done. Your host is guy. Harris who has more than twenty years of combined. Professional Military Experience in in consulting coaching and training in areas like team in interaction dynamics communication strategies and tactics as well as emotional intelligence take it away. Guy Guy I this guy. Welcome to the talk. Like leader podcast. I am privileged and excited to have my friend colleague. Jay Jay Baron. Jay Jay is in. Canada is a former Canadian forces person who served in Bosnia and from that service. He's now known own as the retired spy. He's the president of the training solutions and the SE. Training solutions is a global leader in Communication Relationship Development Allman. I've had the privilege and honor to work with jj now for several years. And I am pleased to have him share his experiences with you today so welcome. Welcome J. J. J. to the podcast. Thank you guy here so tell me a little bit. Real quickly. D. H. C. Training Solutions. DHEC has a meaning meaning. What what does that mean yes so making a military always have acronyms though the DAC stands for decoding human capital it's been my experience Working Overseas working in in a global Arena or theater of operations creations for VR military terminology. That we used to use everyone that you meet has a human capital inside of them. Waiting to be discovered Oh to avoid labeling characterizing in pigeonholing people it's looking at people as having a human capital waiting to be discovered so DC train solutions provides that avenue for them for us engaging to a Sincere honest conversation. Asian so that we can celebrate people's differences versus tolerate people's differences in that twenty twenty. And that's a great setup for the question that we wanna talk about because I really respect and value. Jj's perspective here. He's at lots and lots of experience in this arena helping people and all different types types and sizes of organizations become more effective more clear communicators Posed the question when you know the topic of this podcast is talk talk leader and I just WanNa get what is your thought or perspective. Or what are you here when you hear the phrase talk like a leader. It's it's thought provoking question. Talk like a leader. I had to take a step back and reflect on what was what's the first thing that comes to mind for me is the authenticity of entity to yourself. we we hear the terminology leader. Yes when high school after high school whether it's in College University in my case in the military We hear people who own business leader as leader of this and easily writing quite often. It's it's a title that they have and because they title they have leadership. It hasn't been my experience. I've learned more from people showing poor leadership skills I wish that indicate to me while. Here's how not to do when I acquisition. Here's how not to lead you. Don't lead by the everybody just to edify your position and I've besides object to that early in my in my career in the military. What has really helped me to hone into Talk like a leader is self awareness. It's really to be a fantastic. You really have to have a strong sense of self and has been my experience that there's four levels of awareness awareness in order to thrive and in any environment that you're going to be in this this four levels of awareness we are like the first one will be the environmental or a mental awareness so I would define an environmental awareness as a moment in time where you discover you learn something new. So we're we're both both military ground I've learned things that I didn't know when I first came in and whether it's bootcamp whether it's soya infantry school whether it's a spy school break at environmental awareness. It's a moment in time when you learn. Discover something you you know. You are in that environment when you start asking yourself questions like what is this all about. Who's going to be there? How am I supposed to past why are we doing these things like you know. You are in environmental awareness. When you're asking yourself of these questions from this ought you're going to move onto the next level and situational awareness? That is where I would define a moment in time when so you apply something that you've learned Oh as an example going to Bosnia Herzegovina so I was to be selected. Our accident was volunteered to be a contact hambur right patriots the Bosnian so contact handlers preussen. Who is sending to a hostile sal environment where he or? She has to cultivate sources within that hostile environment determine their intentions and modified behaviors if in when required using any jet. I might tricks. So that's that's a different environment so I had to go to spy school in the UK to learn to be a contact attack handler. Once school's done the next day I was. I was deployed to Bosnia Herzegovina. It took me three days to finish. We're supposed to work in now that I was in this area which is most star. which is where I work? So it's about four hours South of Sarajevo table. If you know where Syria is Now I have an opportunity to apply. Whatever Laura's situational awareness and I you know that you more institue awareness when you're asking yourself similar questions in regards to? What am I supposed to do not to get fired? You're going to be working with now. How are we supposed to move around without being shot? Why not have more bullets August when I was when I came into they gave me a pistol and ten bullets? That's it but the funny rate is a big to magazines for my pistol magazine. ECZEMA can hold him. Bullets in my brain goes should I get twenty bullets. So that's the situation. You're onsite situational awareness. Now the key here is that you to move to the next level you have to have self awareness and I would define hi that as a moment in time where you know that you know that you know your strengths and weaknesses. You're blind spots so that you can partner with somebody that can cover your blind spots so that whole self awareness is where you can really thrived and being an authentic leader. Not Trying to be one that tends to lead any very directive way or in inspirational way. Are you looking to leading the way you leading to lead in the cautious way I have my own style and for me to talk like leader is just to to be me under control etc.. I've learned that for myself. It's never what I say. It's how I say things. I can still be direct correct very direct in my startup communicating They're cautious also worth. I choose to use in and to be really effective. I have to be under control under stress and duress I'm not as effective as I could be but you know if you think about in order to talk like leader you also have to also be able to decode. Perhaps person's preferred communication style the US I may look at someone and since that I need to approach this. In a different way leaders one that recognizes the environment that he or she is in and adapts to their styles based on. WHO's in front of you? I once heard a person indicate sir shared with me that leaders who looks behind to see who's following them a leader who knows who they are following as they move ahead I like what. I'm nice one liner. Nice little lingo and I would advocate that leaders one that recognizes the environment. They're in and adopts his or her leadership style to that environment arm. Sometimes you have to be direct. Sometimes you have to inspire others. Sometimes you have to soften up a little bit. Slow down and be supportive given sometimes you do have to be very very cautious calculating conscientious with the words that you choose to use Nord not to hurt anybody. I'm looking for now. I said there was four. And if you're counting at from self awareness it will be the opportunity for you to move to the next level of awareness which is legacy Zia. Were legacy awareness. I define as A moment in time when you find your purpose when you find your meeting when you're able to leave your mark When you look back that you've done everything that you could have done and that you have frocks You familiar with the parable of the Pencil. Guy Yes I am pencil yet. The leaving a mark idea yes so legacies very much like that. Because I think everyone at one point whether it's in high school or college or university There's a time in life that people are going to ask. Why might you? I ain't there's there's an author that wrote the at the most the two most important dates in our lives number one. The data we were born into the day we find out Y and that's profound the day you find out why and I would say like talk like leaders when you find your Y.. When you find neuropathic self I believe that it becomes easier? You're not trying to be someone that you're not designed to be and you can be yourself out and make an impact in a difference. I on people like the verbal depends. We'll talk about the fight. Things quickly with your audience The A Creator manufacturer the inventor of the Pencil shares with a pencil. That there's five things that you must learn and never forget to invest pencil number one before you can easily Zule as a pencil. You must first be willing to be placed into somebody else's hand a step number one number two. You go through some sharpening as a pencil. It's going going to hurt you. Let me encourage you. You're GONNA be better because of the sharpening number three. You'RE GONNA make mistakes as a pencil. I know that's why a place eraser on the top number four true core value. And what's on the outside. Not You look to shape not your color. What place inside of you? That's where you find the real core values in number five and the most important you create a design indebted for one thing in one thing only and as to leave your mark on every surface you come across in life to me. That's the legacy awareness Athletes were in a city. Leave to your kids and if you're fortunate like in your case grandkids it's your chance to start over but try to fix things. I messed up the first time I'm like I'm not there. I've got to it to start over so wait wait get married. I you know all of the right. Exactly an But that's that's how I would define it Talk like the leader really is is finding your authentic self. The offense if you've never taken in an opportunity to take an audit Your likes and your dislikes your temperament style value. You're going through these psychometric assessment and then receiving it right. That was one thing of you could resist all the information or you can receive information and Ninjas be your best self moving forward not not being too hard on your on on on yourself for regardless of your past does not dictate your future you pass does prepare you for your future. It doesn't dictate is because the act is certain way back then in high school that has defined you for the rest of your life but it does prepare you so there's just a lot that's a very good question talk like a leader and and there's is a lot of good Good comment there. And I think anybody who's listened to other episodes where you're gonNA hear a lot of similar threads and what I really really like as maybe phrase two different ways you can hear it differently but the idea of the authenticity and trying to be situationally aware and I and trying to find your purpose full your purpose rather than having authoritarian viewpoint or try to lord leadership over people it's a whole mindset perspective and I appreciate you were talking more about it sounded to me. What else here in is more how I think about how I'm talking in or how I'm being when I'm talking more than what I'm doing what I'm talking? State of being perspective the the habits that mindset that that you bring the communication that's really more important than the specific technique and techniques can change on situations that hopefully heart and the the spirit is consistent through all situations. Yes you have to think things through right. You don't just go in line line. Did it again. It's more reflecting on what will what does what does that person need. Bright good not to lose my identity in it right. It's more of You need to know before you show. I need to know what this person is coming from. So that I can say the same thing in a different way so that they can receive the information. You've heard the story of me paying a compliment to my wife. While the first time I paid a compliment I paid a compliment as if it was me. And the fact was very cool evening because it in speak proper opera language as poor leadership right I was not thinking about. WHO's going to be receiving this information right? Now when the opportunity showed itself Pinhead again To to pay accomplished at this time I reflected on my audience. Who who am I talking to and and was able to adapt my leadership style to that person's leadership style so that they can receive in any became very authentic was high? Hi Evening Awards Ohio. Oh so if you can find the right way to deliver the message sure things are better. Everything's better saw. I'M GONNA have to put a comma in our conversation. I'm hoping we can continue this in future episodes codes Put a comment at not period. We're GONNA come back and revisit this again because the challenges. I'm really enjoying the conversation and we could probably go for forty minutes if we just let ourselves ourselves What I WANNA really WanNa make sure people know how to reach you? Jj Sue what's the best way more. We'll put a link on our podcast page. Also so it's easier for people but please tell us what's the easiest way for people to get in touch with you and find out more about you while the simplest way would be goalie website the retired spy dot com. Because there's always a contact link female would be sent to us if there's any questions in cuss promptly the easiest one so bright triple W. though retired spy dot com. You remember the retired spy dot com accent. So I WANNA think. Jj for being with me today. And I hope that Everyone listening has gotten some good insights out of it I know. Jd's reminded me of some things that I haven't thought about in a while and so I really appreciate that I think if you'll take what. Jd said about authenticity about adjusting to the person WHO's receiving the message by being your authentic self losing yourself and the communication and the same time getting yourself a better fit the person with communicating. He'll do that and follow the ideas of Jj said and fulfil your purposing. You're you're y you can talk like leader. This has been the talk leader podcast. You can listen to this show every week wherever you get your podcast. You haven't these sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode. I'm Guy Harrison. Thanks for listening.

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CCs Milestone Win, The 4th Place Mets, The Knicks Draft And More

Boomer & Gio

14:25 min | 1 year ago

CCs Milestone Win, The 4th Place Mets, The Knicks Draft And More

"Later on tonight, NBA draft Jerry Recco is excited, but I lot of people are ion Williamson Djalmir an RJ Barrett expected to go one two three although there was some news out there yesterday. The Knicks had scheduled last minute. This workout with dairies garland, dairy garland said afterwards aid, it got me thinking about me, it's gotta be a possibility. When just bring me in for to elevate. And then Woge game out and said, no, no, no. They are locked in on our j Barrett. So I dunno the point of that, last minute workout, I know, Frank Sola tweeted out that the last time they did this, last minute workout thing, it was with Kristaps Porzingis. Now that was a different type of regime altogether when that pick was made, but it's something to think about. But I still think it's got to be, and it will be RJ Barrett tonight, a little bit later tonight with at third overall pick Jerry is here. He's got the update fours what's going on. Jerry morning brought to you by the casino auto group. Discover the benefits of driving and all. Electric Jaguar pace SUV from raycatena Jaguar Edison or Jaguar Marlboro. We'll start with the Mets only because they played last night as both the Yankees who won earlier in the day good game for the first five innings we were locked up at two and two. And then we weren't fly ball deep to left center. Forget it. This ball is gone to the seats left center field to homerun for Josh Donaldson is fourteen th of the year. The Braves of taken a fortitude, how he wrote at east eighty. He did that was part of a seven to Braves win. So in the midst back four games under five hundred forty four thirty one Ozzy Albee's, adding an RBI double Nick marquess two run double in the eighth inning as well. There was Maki Calloway's what happens? Stephen Mazzi when five and then in the six things fell apart. You know, he just kind of cruising. And then, you know he kinda. Hit a wall for four batters fourteen pitches later. They have three more runs and that be that here was Matt's. What happened? They, you know, seeing that their time through that was a big inning for me. And they just got his line not great five run six. It's four walks. Five plus innings. Stephen goes sick. Mate is MLB debut. He'll out a couple of runs over two thirds of great in relief as well four games under five hundred thirty five and thirty nine. Make what our record is. We're concerned about what we are doing. You know it's not fun to be enforced plot. And they're now in fourth place because the nationals took two from the Phillies yesterday as Patrick Corbin end max sherzer, both one, and that's where the Mets are, and where they are tonight Chicago against the cubs. Walker lock it. Yeah. I know one locked. Yes. So shop is good for him and his major league debut. And by the way, can we get some of these guys like this go sick last night? We get these guys from real numbers because when a guy comes in wearing seventy two on his back. Yeah. And then gives up three runs. And in two thirds of inning. You're not Chris flexing comes in with with the rest of still though. I mean I feel like it spring training. And these guys it just seventy two tells me that it's going to be a miserable. I'm sorry. It just is let's guys got a track record. And he's wearing like ninety nine for a reason. I mean Aaron judge was ninety nine we understand, but, like a pitcher who comes in never heard of. And he's got some number in the sixties and seventies on his back. He's going to be terrible. These going to be absolutely terrible. Goat was that they use both those guys the new guys that Brody van wagon decided to go with both of them made appearances last night. Sick was to the top at least where sixty nine. Come out in the sixties. Seventies at least come out with number sixty nine on your back Yankees raise yesterday afternoon. Yankees had two big innings that sunk Tampa and their star Blake's swung on driven. It's a three run Wallin to begin the game of the Yankee. There is the Cenci. No. The extended his arms hit the ball the other way and it will out in right field. And that is John sterling with that Beulah. Yeah. Was first inning all good for the Yanks. They put up a six spot and they beat the race twelve to one. They also put up six runs in the seventh highlighted by labor Taurus's grand slam. In terms of what they did to smell a third of inning. Six runs to. It's four walks, Aaron Boone zas, also it was just every guy putting on a really tough at that against him in war down in a one of the game's best pitchers. Here was Sanchez through his translator. We don't care who were facing team. You know, it doesn't matter who's on who's going to give our best bad, and we did a great job today. Six innings for C Sobat the career win number two, fifty. He says, milestone win whatever really care about fifty. And I really didn't mean that, you know, just wanna go out and pitch, well, and, and team seen win games Buni talking hall of fame for about the lock. Yeah. So this is it for him. I think five years, they come calling. Yeah, speaking of five, it's five straight wins now for the Yankees who now lead Tampa by three and a half games atop the AL least Forty-six and twenty-seven is New York, Chad. Green expected to start tonight against the Astros against from her Valdez from who's three and two of them area of two point seven seven so far this year. I if we had a boy, it would have been from GM Nadi. That'd been cool. So it was that was a right at the from me. F- from geo right there. Elsewhere in baseball the chargers beat the judge the chargers the dodgers beat the giants. Nine to two. Chris taylor. Couple of home runs. Cody Bellinger, his twenty fourth Rockies of the diamondback, six two four and the cardinals and Marlins went to the eleventh inning and it was Saint Louis coming away with the win. Here's another to pitch for Goldschmidt. Goodnight folks goodbye. This thing is crush way, way out of here, and we're all going home a home. Run by the cardinal first baseman. Paul Goldschmidt and is cardinals radio. A long home run as Saint Louis ones winning eleven quickly after the crack of the Nettie, say it was gone. It was like a. Another two to pitch for Goldschmidt. Goodnight, folks. About runs being hit, right? Yeah. So where do you think the Yankees are in the American League in terms of home runs hit? Where do they rank? I would think they ranked near the top. But since you're asking me this way, say sixth their fourth okay? Therefore Minnesota has one hundred forty home runs in seventy three games now Seattle's played seventy eight games. So they have a hundred and thirty six home runs. They also hit a whole bunch early the continued that try, but they lost Encarnacion. And then Bruce Jay Bruce. Right. So Houston coming into the Bronx has one hundred eighteen home runs in seventy five games. And then there's the Yankees seventy three games played. They hit one hundred seventeen home runs. A lot of home runs might chart. It's a lot of home runs at a couple yesterday, including a grand slam seven RBI's angels beat the Blue Jays seven seven RBI that he's having an unbelievable year. He's about in three hundred right around there. Yeah, yeah. His money, that's for sure. Nationals this why they moved ahead of the Mets. They swept a doubleheader from the Phillies Patrick Corbin wins the first game as they win six two. And then max Shire's her the second game to nothing. He says, yeah, I was gonna pitch even with the broken nose. I do wasn't it wasn't that bad. Those but for me it didn't matter. I felt pretty good everywhere else. And he was ready to go, and he did day. No chara of the Washington nationals. I'll go with that or their Matthew Stafford abortion, after who played in called BS on that you tire season with a broken back out have a hard time showing up to work with a broken back, of course. Yeah. Would probably wouldn't be able to drive in here that someone comfortable be here. I got hit in the mouth with a hockey stick was here. Next day, it is true. You are the toughest of all of us as ES definitely we cannot claim as much as you. That's true. That's true. Speaking of BS, a lot of people are calling Bs on this. But who knows thirties in the Dominican Republic say the shooting of David Ortiz mistaken identity? It's ridiculous. You know what just reporting the news? Tony. Somebody shot Phil Simms shot me because they thought I was Phil Simms. I, I could buy that. But I'm not buying this. He is a national hero and treasure. And everybody knows who big Papi's. Sure. Everybody supposedly he was wearing the same pants as another guy. What serious stops at this drug Lord? Lord is probably got something on somebody down there, right? Yeah. I mean I'm ready for Samir, responsible speculation this morning. Why not? So I think that the drug Lord and the government are in cahoots, and I think that David Ortiz probably did some stuff that if it got uncovered he wouldn't be as much of a national hero, and I think the cops got wind of that, and they're protecting both of those entities. So you'd think both people are guilty here. And there just wanna protect everybody in. In the mix basically. Yeah. That's what I Toby these morons down there that basically split eight thousand dollars twenty two or twenty two guys. Yeah. Is a mistaken identity? Yeah. I, I mean, I can't believe that. No, six Fernandez, who was the guy who was apparently the target. I mean I don't know if Sixto was. Really that much of a problem for anybody six door and as Fernan Sixto David Fernandez. Yeah. So he was supposedly the target. Yes, he was was he there. Yes. Getting across from him in the same pants. Well, yes, the same pants a shirt that also had a pattern on it. So a pattern shirt was same size is big Papi, now, he's smaller, and he's of lighter complexion than David Ortiz satisfactory, pants, David Ortiz, putty, or something. Yeah. They yes, they are close also Sixto their clothes, so there was a hit out on sixty six. That's right. Six though, was the target apparently according to the cops, and it was not David Ortiz. But I just nobody believes it. There's not a single person that believed. But what I mean I, I don't even know what to do with. There's nothing to do this just it's crazy. You know. Right. And everybody's talking about it, and I get it. But I, I can't believe it. I. Cannot believe it. And it's not like I have some sort of, you know, ultimate trust in the Dominican police authority. Well, I guess I hate to say this. But if there's another attempt on David Ortiz's life, I guess, we'll find out whether or not it really was truly a case of mistaken identity or six though, you know, one past headed any point, then we'll know that they were going to six right? If you're six oh right now and you're down there in the Dominican. How do you feel? What did you do actually bring this upon yourself? I hear he's trying to change his name to seven tote now, he's visually. In the Dominican drug and David Ortiz or buddies. I guess so I mean I can't follow this anymore. I can't I can't fi too too much while you can follow the NBA draft. That's tonight in Brooklyn at Barclay center. Pelicans picks one and four. Zion Williamson certainly expected to go to New Orleans. He's filling the level ready way. Way. People high fiving saying they hope I come here supposed to be the savior, right? The grizzlies select second. Memphis, also trading Mike Conley to the jazz. For Grayson Allen, Kyle Korver Jae Crowder, twenty third pick any future lottery, protected first round pick the Knicks pick third. Everybody expected to be our Jay baron. He also laid grow recipes, he was the biggest he always told me the Knicks. There you go. He's saying all the right thing. Certainly sounds like he wants to be there. The nets with the twenty seven th pick Chris Middleton of the bucks. Declines is thirteen million dollar player option, according to his agent he will become an unrestricted free agent. They had the NHL awards less. I'm sorry. Talk about the Connelly trade. I did mention. That was. I mean they're going for it. You talking about the jazz. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. That's no, I know. And I think it was a great trade. If you take it, if you're going to take John Meringgi, I don't people those guys, they're obviously out some cap space. It's perfect great trade for both teams. And I think the jazz are also making that deal because they see a vulnerable Western Conference teams in the postseason last year. Had a good team. And now as even better, so they're going to be a real factor there, the NHL awards last night. You had one unhappy team when Keenan Thompson did the opening on NBC sports network, set Tampa, folks. That's right. They tied the most wins in a regular season with sixty two and then they followed it up by tying the least wins in the play with zero. Hey. I mean, that's what women lose days, set records, and they had the cameras on the guys that were there or not have less than pleased as you can imagine that said Tampa Nikita kucherov Hart trophy winner, league MVP Ted Lindsay award is voted by his peers as best player. Robin Leonard of the islanders Bill Masterton memorial trophy, and H player who quote best exemplifies, the qualities of perseverance sportsmanship, and dedication to high Elvis speechless, and Barry trots wins, his second Jack Adams award as best about that. Yeah. About about that. How about that? All right.

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No Love Loss For The Lakers

Boomer & Gio

18:04 min | 1 year ago

No Love Loss For The Lakers

"From the investors Bank studio oversize in Greg Jian Audie. Boomer and geo on the fan simulcasts across the country on CBS sports network. Good Wednesday morning, good for the Mets last night. Now lay finding a way to win. Michael Conforto grand slam. The Yankees do lose to the Padres, or down, early Tanaka bunch of runs early hosmer home run. They come back, but fall short. They got to see James Paxton on the mound this afternoon, the right back at it against the guy that New York baseball fans are familiar with is going to be rolling here this afternoon with his cowboy hat, and his belt buckle and his bravado and all that stuff Chris panic. And we'll see if the Yankees could win it yet, a another series lot of stuff happening in the NBA rumors flying around everybody trying to protect themselves out now, may and. Crazy story into what was going on with the Lakers. We'll get all good morning. Our you. I'm doing great man. It was great to see. Michael Conforto yard last night for his first ever grand slam. That was great. You know that home run that Ha's Moore hit last night. I yeah the pitch actually moved away from him. And somehow he went down and got it hit it about four hundred twenty feet the dead center. I mean, I know I'm reading the papers today and reading reaction of last night's game about how Tanaka splitters not one hundred percent now where it was. But if you watch that pitch because they showed it over and over and over again. If you watch that pitch it actually want away from hosmer, but hosmer Zeno, he's a pro and he went down, what yard with it, but I thought the axes were to come back in the driving. Rain storm last night, and DJ LeMay you in the seventh inning has another you hit. And he's the reason why the reason why you get a guy like that is because exactly what he did last night. And I thought it was gonna be able to do it in the ninth inning, but he didn't. But another, you know, at least ballion comeback. By the Yankees, but today's important because you're gonna go against paddock. Paddock is obviously as we saw him as Matt bans. He just mowed us down. And it'll be interesting to see how the hitters fair against one of the really fresh stories of major league baseball. You know, maybe American League fans don't really know too much about this kid, but he's four and two. He's got an ER at one point nine three and you're right. He shows up with a cowboy hat, whereas all black the Johnny cash. Yeah. The San Diego Padres. He's a real personality. And he's got some stuff. He's got the stuff to back it up. So maybe he's generations Mark vigil, which yeah, never being so kind of interesting. So I can't wait to see that today and good news for the Antes Paxton back. So that's gonna be key for them, and they don't wanna lose a series here. They've lost two other last three so you just don't you don't wanna you wanna come back wanna win that you want to win the series and you to just take care of business here. So it'd be a be interesting to watch us today, because the Yanks got their high priced trade. And of course, the, the Padres have their start rookie now a couple of things this whole thing with the Lakers amazing. I mean, I know how long wanted somebody else. Yes. Now, I know how the rest of the viewed the Knicks because you know, Magic Johnson's basically screwed. This franchise up on buses no clue to what she's doing. And now and now there are rumblings and reports and rumors. And I think we're there smokes there's some fire right? That Phil Jackson's involved. What we heard that ready. Yes. Phil Jackson has been advising genius. We know that they have a prior relationship, if you know who to turn to she's going to the old flame, who at least knew some basketball at some point in his life, but stuff like this really is. I mean we all eat it up. I mean, now you get these stories that that Magic Johnson. And rob Pelinka created such atmosphere out there with the Lakers that multiple employees had the go and get anxiety medication to deal with the. Abusive office that was going on. All right. So I don't really know what that is what that means. But I'd so plink was Kobe Bryant's agent, right? Yes. So there's another great story with that, right? So all these like shack and magic and Coby. And everybody's got their tentacles into the franchise. Oh, yeah. This is this is why you gotta be really careful. If you are an owner of any team and you bring back former players in some capacity, especially great players that are hall of fame players, you know, maybe not everybody can see it as clearly as John Elway one sought when he realized that he needed paid manning to win a Super Bowl, but a lot of X superstar players cannot go to work every single day and run and grind through what it takes the run a franchise and case in point would be Brian Cashman Brian Cashman every single day has to go to work worry about some injury. And. Deal with the analytics guys with the scouts deal with the international scouts deal with the players, what the agents deal with the owner I think about that. So if you are a superstar player your Magic Johnson, you know, your, your Dan Marino, for that matter, like, when I was telling Dan don't get involved, don't get involved. It's not it's not your Cup of tea. That's not who you are. You know, football I'm not saying you don't. But the every day, inner workings of one of these organizations can drive you mad get absolutely drive. You mad, and especially if you are superstar. That's why Michael Jordan, as an owner is one thing. Sure as a coach or as a general manager, that's a whole different set of circumstances. And there's so much on their plate. That's why often I laugh and I take it as a compliment, but I always say there's no way that I have the qualifications to ever run a football team. I played football. I love football. I watch football. I can I can see if a. Players. Good player. But when you realize what the general manager has to do in order to build a team and this case, the Lakers and then you have potholes and speed bumps. And you have sniping from you have an agent running the team as a GM Bajic John's at magic there be there. Well, let me ask you because there's a couple of things that are in this article, it's ESPN expose will by Baxter home. So this is when I talked about this abusive atmosphere that was created. There were two stories that were cited in this one was magic. Johnson went down to an area of employees ease, you know, we're all their desks or there and said that I can replace any of you at any time and then he pointed upstairs. I gotta stack resumes on my desk, meeting that, hey, people want to work here. So you better pick it up. I, I heard that I was like this. I really like the worst thing in the world is as Thomas with an x. I mean not right. What you feel like it's the same. I'm not saying there's any sexual harassment thing. I just the whole like the mentality of what, what like magic would. Why would you say? So magic is come out, and he has said that, none of this is true, he never abused any, but I didn't think that was the worst thing, just because I thought of the Knicks and sexual harassment was like, well that sounds alva- lot worse than what Magic Johnson was doing here. And the other one was so I guess it employees screwed up a car service from one of the draft picks or something. And then magic berated that instead of a screw up one more time you're going to get fired. So when I heard like abusive atmosphere and then I heard those things on like we. So we used to grasp at straws here, but anyway, so now all this is now is everybody slandering the next guy. So they all come out of this clean. But that's what this is right? Slandering magic magic slavery Pelinka genie, butts is probably putting stories out left and right about the both of them. That's what's going on here. Nobody's coming out claim. Everybody's got fun. At this point, and mud all over them. And it's it couldn't happen to a better franchise in a better team. My favorite God is the rob Pelinka story. Because now everybody's saying this just proves you rob. Pelinka's aligarh. This is what everybody's saying. The anti Pelinka Pete agent. Right. Right. Of course, we all know that is that rob Pelinka. I told a story when he was at some speaking engagement when the rock was up there that Koby and heath ledger had a dinner together. Okay. So Kobi could learn how to lock in like he thread ledger. Data is the role of the joker, but the problem was that, and he said that Kobe seen the movie and was impressed. But he's ledger had died six months before the movie came. So everybody's going back to the story going, what the time line doesn't magical. Rob Pelinka is one of his many lies. And that's one of the things that was out there yesterday. It's crazy. This thing has got so. So many layers. I love it. I absolutely. And on top of all of it Bron James is right in the middle of it. Oh, yeah. That's the other party. These agent, by the way, which is another thing do. I mean listen. Everybody's talking about this this morning. It's crazy. We're all eating it up with a spoon. But this Rich Paul, yes. He's around. He's hanging on everybody like white on rice, and he's telling people, what to do, and any, he apparently, according to this story, went out of silver to get Luke, Walton fired this guy, this guy is so powerful. But it's a problem at the NBA, but think about this, this guy as an agent of LeBron James is so empowered in so emboldened by who he is that he thought he could go directly to the NBA Commissioner to get the head coach of the Lakers fire, you know, it sucks, man. You know what really sucks less that this may cause Anthony Davis. Pause and say, I really don't wanna go to Lakers. I want to go the Knicks and I have a choice. That. Because he's already said, well, he already said that he wanted the Lakers. So what my doesn't have a no trade. The reason why feel I could hits that for me. That, that's a point of contention is because the more and more I read and hear about RJ Barrett. The more and more I wanna see him in a knick uniform. I mean does he said to your high? No. But I just wanna see young guy in a knick uniform with a high draft pick that we can build around, and that we can add pieces to whether it be Kevin Durant, or Kemba Walker, or Tobias Harris or Kyrie Irving, whoever the hell it is. Yeah. I wanna see my young team. I wanna see, you know what I wanna see my pita Lonzo. I wanna see Aaron judge. I wanna see that for the Knicks. I wanna see Capela Cocco for the Rangers. I wanna see young guys playing in the uniforms that I root for. And I wanna see those young guys be developed now compared to what the Lakers are right now. I would say the Knicks are stable, believe it or not, the Knicks are stable, and I want that stability to be. Able to develop young players like Mitchell Robinson. I wanna see those guys now I know we have max contracts, and I hope they get the right guys. And I hope they just don't get guys to get guys because they did that before they did that would start a Meyer. The did that with the with Carmelo Anthony. I don't wanna go down that road again. Now I want Kevin Durant. I want him here. I hope he comes here. I hope he sees the beauty of playing in New York and what it can mean for him and his future and his legacy and all that other stuff. But if we can't get him, I want, I, I'm telling you, I just want to be very, very careful about what they do, and who they go after. That's why I would love to see RJ Barrett in the knick uniform. Yeah. I mean, the idea of Kevin Durant Kyrie Irving and Anthony Davis, all in the same team is something that's still excites me. I understand what you're saying growing the young guys doing it that way and being affordable, and all of that. I mean it makes sense. It's almost three guys on the same team. I basically going to find. I see what these guys are saying that. They're like, somehow some way, Kawai, Leonard, believe it or not brought stability to Toronto. You know, one guy that really brought stability to that best. It's not like they weren't stable. They Jay shocking in the playoffs they were good. And they brought in a stud player and that guy elevated everybody. And then when they needed it most, he took thirty nine shots and you want the ball, and he wanted to shoot it, and he wanted to win any one, so I don't know. I just I'm so conflicted about all of this stuff because I know those three players would probably get us to the finals, but also to players are Jay baron. Get you to the conference finals, depending on now where quiet Leonard goes, by the way compared to the Lakers, how good the clippers look right now. Sure, I mean without a doubt and a lot of these guys are being attached to the clippers to these free agents. There's players that are the biggest of names like Colli Leonard that have been considering him and talking about the clippers for a while now, I guess, the latest with Cairo Irving. I saw Rick Bucur Rick Bucar, NBA NBA, insider guy. He's said that Kyrenia now. And this is the if you've done this before silly season. There's no silly season like the NBA Scillies as it right? But the latest with is that he's narrowed it down to two teams. There are two teams now that Kyrie Irving will. Right. And they are, do you wanna guess the Knicks? Nope, not have the Knicks not anchors, the Lakers, one, LeBron and. Eastern Conference or western composter, Philadelphia. No. Not philadelphia. They been. The Brooklyn nets the Brooklyn nets, and the LA Lakers. Those are the two places that RIC Bucher said Cairo Irving is now down to now. That would be I mean, either one of those is shocker to me quite frankly, because he left Cleveland because he didn't wanna play with LeBron longer. And now he's going to consciously go back there and signed to play with LeBron free agency, especially with that going on. Right. Exactly. And then the if you're gonna come to New York, I understand the nets are in a better place and have a much better team right now in a better roster. But you would think that kyri would go to the garden as opposed to Brooklyn. But that's just one man's opinion in RIC Bucher. But you're going to hear all stuff and just waits finals are over every single. Oh, I know. Every day, all of honestly, you gotta admit it really have to admit, though, watching the Lakers wallow in this dysfunction. Oh, it's fun. No, it's definitely fun. It is better than this. There's no doubt about that. Usually one of our teams talking about the dysfunction, the Mets jets Knicks whatever to watch them go down. And actually, you could actually do this. Dallas skate remember the old show Dallas shore, the Lakers. Right. Jeanie Buss the matriarch of the family, the one that's running the team. He got Magic Johnson is running around screaming and stabbing everybody in the back, yet, you got rob Pelinka the former agent of Kobe Bryant, who's the bigger star in LA. Who's the biggest mega Laker of all time as shack isn't magic is Kobe, cool. Are they like in all the infighting? They're going on, then you got LeBron James, then you got LeBron James agent. And then you got the media out there. Then you got whoa. Denounce key. And you got the fat guy on ESPN with Brian Windhorst. I gotta give him a lot. I gotta give him a lot of cry. But I'm just saying you got all these people that are mired into this mock. Right. And that Brian win horse. I mean that guy on TV every day has not tried to lose one pound like that's a guy seriously. All right. Whatever. But he's, he's the mammoth for me, Ron, right? When I was on television, every see, I got to do something about this. I looked terrible. Right. Windhorst. Just doesn't care. He just trots himself. Got a bad thyroid or something. I don't believe so no, I don't believe that's the case may, but I don't know. But he also be guy that feels a lot of weight funny. I the head may look to funny. I took me a while to get used to your head did it. Yes, I do have a larger head. But I mean that's a guy who. You've got a large head as well. Of course I got a Norwegian head right? It's where. It's like a gravitational pull your head. I got like some sort of like moon. Yeah. Basically tied associated. There's an orbit that gets around your best night of the size of it. Yes, we are large, but I thought your head was large, but I thought it was going to be larger when you lost the weight, I'm used to seeing you now good this well spelt, the what about one ninety five? But yeah, just about one ninety two to one ninety my range my range higher end a little bit on the higher end after Memorial Day weekend. I had a hell of a day yesterday. I'm not going to tell you what it is on a little bit later on. And I think I've found a new job for L dukes. Oh, really? And I think that outdo, cts should really consider this job because it wouldn't interfere with the likes to tweet during the show that interferes with the show. Sure he's not paying attention when I'm talking to them, but I found a new job for dukes. Okay. And I think he can make a lot of money in his off time away from the. Radio station when he's not doing podcasts or what he's not doing every does normally which is nothing. Is it a sherpa? No. It's not a sherpa does it involve travelling all. No, it doesn't allow okay does not actually might be a good one. He could stay right in his condo right down there. The jersey shore could stay right there and he can make a ton of dough because I have to tell you I relied on duke's for something yesterday. He got me through it. And he talked we through it like a real professional. Okay. All right, good. I'm excited to explain what it is. Maybe around seven o'clock. All right perfect.

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347: Jay Baer, Talk Triggers

Crack the Customer Code

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347: Jay Baer, Talk Triggers

"Get ready for crack the customer code your audio guidebook for creating incredible customer journeys. Adam, you know, because we're talking using words. Is that word of mouth marketing? Or is that word of now experience. I was trying to get like I was trying to have an existential question. You just shut it down improv partner. A one word answer. That's it. Okay. All right and seeing let's try again. End. There's an octopus eating ice cream on the corner. Well, see that would be a talk trigger. That would absolutely be talk Turkey. There is an octopus on the corner eating ice. Uh-huh. The social media company that it's already owns the octopus. I'm afraid. Nice cream though. And ours would be much more talented and more talk trickery is at the adjective, sure, we just made it. You're welcome. Everybody. Yes today, we are talking about this amazing idea of not only word of mouth kind of experiences. And what makes your customers talk about the experiences? Not only the why of it. But really the how of it. And that's this new book talk triggers by Jay, baron, his co author. Daniel lemon were so excited to have Jay on the show today because we really talk through a couple of great examples, and how anyone any size company can really apply these principles to their organization, and the very nature of it is great customer experience. I think right in the key here if you're hearing this and you're going, oh, jeez. More about word of mouth keep listening because the big differences J always does he found that little that differentiator and that is word of mouth as a strategic priority. And as a strategy as a as a c. X dimension. Right. As something that you're actually going to operationalize and execute, and that's really the difference between talk traders and sort of a lot of conversations about word of mouth, which is just like, oh, gee, do something that people talk about this is about very being very strategic and tactical about how you do that. Right. Right. And also understanding really what makes it successful and how to pilot it, and it's just it's great. So I think we should go ahead. And let Jay talk about the expertise. He has instead of us breaking it down. What do you think? I made sure that's one way to go. We did interview him. I guess we could go to the interview. I'm just saying there are a lot of options here any progression. It's not a talk trigger to just go to the guests. If you know if we wanted to make a talk show, your we just wouldn't run the run at this time. Set up there while the number will promoted, just no interview. That's it. Sorry, jay. Well, the Agrippa s- who's eating ice cream on the corner. Really wants you to tell our guests about Jay. Jay Baer helps businesses clone their customers he has created five multi billion dollar companies. And is a seventh generation entrepeneurship is the president of convincing convert a consulting firm that helps the world's most iconic brands like the United Nations Nike three am oracles. Use technology to win new customers and keep the customers. They've already earned a New York Times bestselling author. Oh, five books. Jay is the host of the award-winning social pros podcasts. He's also an avid tequila collector and yesterday, certified or req- judge. All right. Let's talk to Jae. What is up? Jay adamant fantastic to be here with you. Hope you're doing great fantastic. Hope yours. Well, so happy to have you. And so excited to talk about your new book. I am. So she is still excited. I can't even I can't even stop. I love this book. I think. It's so practical, but it also is about kind of the magic of these things which I loved so before we jump in. Of course, it's called talk triggers. So why don't you start us off with what makes something a talk trigger? How do you define talk trigger? Let me talk about the problem of quick. The problem is that word of mouth is the most important thing in business for which nobody has a strategy. Influences between fifty and ninety percent of all purchases yet. Nobody has an actual plan for it. Right. We just assume that our customers will talk about us. But why do we think that will happen? And what will they say? It's a mystery guys because we have a digital strategy and marketing strategy might have customer service strategy bright a string and hold desk full of strategies, but nobody has a word of mouth strategy. We're dissove Lasi fair about it. And it's it's really it's hard to believe, frankly. So a talk trigger allows you to do mouth on purpose to actually have a strategy for getting your customers to talk about you to other people every day week month quarter, and and ear and talk trigger itself is a strategic operational differentiator that compels conversation your customers can help themselves. They simply must tell somebody about this. Interesting thing that you do. Now. What's what's cool about this? Is that a talk trigger really is a customer experience. Right. It's a customer. It's a c x dementia. But when we talk about so often, we think of it in the context of customer retention here with a talk trigger using Ceac as customer acquisition. And I think that's pretty cool. Very cool. It's very neat. And you know, what's interesting about word of mouth is to your point. We just sort of think of it as something that is right is just uncontrollable kind of thing that either happens organically, or it doesn't, but you've actually broken down word of mouth into different types. And I think it's looking at it in the books, essentially, categorizing what impressed the customer so much. So tell us a little bit about these different types, and or any more powerful than the others. Well, you can look at it through sort of an x and a y axis so so there's online word of mouth social media review sites, discussion, boards and forums is about fifty percent of all word of mouth offline word of mouth face to face. Telephone conversation at cetera is also about. Fifty percent. Now, what we find is that offline word of mouth is equally likely mathematically, but is more persuasive as you might imagine. Because typically when you get a recommendation offline you can ask follow up questions, and the likelihood that you have a real relationship with that person is a little bit higher as well. So off on an offline or about the same volume of conversation offline this slightly more persuasive. But when we think about what creates conversation, it's not competency. This is one of the great fallacies in business. Adam that competency creates conversation competency, keeps your customers, right, competency reduces churn, but competency doesn't create conversations because I I don't know. Everybody listening today. I bet you I know some folks, but I know this for a fact nobody has ever said, hey, let me tell you about this perfectly. Adequate experiencing. Because terrible story, right? Word of mouth is is all about telling stories, and what you do with talk trigger is you're giving your customers a story to tell that story has to be interesting. It has to be memorable. It has to be dynamic. And and saying, hey, I flicked on a light switch and light came out is not very good story. So you have not something good. It's so true. It's so true. And one of the examples that you use in the book is the cookies from DoubleTree hotels, and I have this like warm spot in my heart because I used to take this terrible business trip every month where I would fly into Wichita Kansas deal with a client there for like two days. And then I had to drive to Tulsa, Oklahoma and back then there wasn't a lot of stuff going on between Wichita and Tulsa and. A lot of it was. You know, native American land. And so there weren't even like drive-thrus or anything. So I would get into the hotel at around eleven pm, and they got to know me at the DoubleTree. So they would put aside cookies for me saying cookie. Nice. And I still remember this. And I'm telling the story because it was so meaningful to me that they like it was such a nice little gesture of welcome after a long drive and a long day. And they knew that, you know, there is nothing to eat anywhere. So I think that was part of it. They didn't want crabby genie there. But. Relate to this. Yeah. The crabby genie part. I'm sure, but I think, you know, back to the conversation we were just having we kind of assume that these things happen organically, and in a way, the magic is feels organic right? It feels like something where you're like. Wow. This is amazing. Just like the example. I showed. Yeah. And that's why it's so important to to understand that talk triggers are not marketing it not rations that create a market hin vantage. So talk more about that. If you will like, how do you operationalize it as part of the customer experience number one? It's not a campaign or a contest or a coupon or price. It is something that you do differently. And the key is that you do it differently. Every time that every customer has access to it. So let's go back to the DoubleTree example Doubletree's been giving out a warm chocolate. Chip cookie at check in everyday to every guest for thirty years. Thirty years today as we're having this conversation, they will distribute seventy five thousand warm chocolate chip cookies today now loud four separate research projects for this book. This book isn't J in my co author. Daniel lemon says you should be good at word of mouth. There are some of that. But there's four separate projects we invested in this book in one of those projects was we surveyed hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of DoubleTree customers, and we found that thirty four percent of them have without being prompted at all told somebody specifically about that cookie in the last thirty days, which means that every single day twenty five thousand five hundred people on average have a conversation. They tell a story about that cookie. Now companion question. When's the last time you saw a DoubleTree ad? We don't advertise very much because the cookie is the ad and their guests are the marketing department, there's a sane in business. You guys are probably familiar with it. It's not entirely true. But it's true enough. And it goes like this advertising is a tax paid by the unremarkable in this case having an oven in every hotel is operations having supply chain. So every hotel has cookie dough is operations and bags training every front desk clerk to be able to make the cookies and present the cookies because it is a presentation to send a pile of cookies on a plate. It is a it's like a Japanese tea ceremony. But with. Is operations. That's not marketing. Now, it it creates marketing advantages, but it's not marketing, it's how a talk trigger is when you do something different. It's not that you say something different. I love that. So let's draft off of that. Because one thing that's interesting about DoubleTree to your point they'd been doing it for three decades sort of happened organically. But if you somebody read your book and says, I want to create talk triggers what's the step for operationalizing testing, all that kind of stuff? Figuring out what a good talk trigger. Is you have a process for that? I mean, how do you go special special yet at scale? Yeah. I mean, that's why we wrote the book because look you don't need another book. That tells you that word of mouth is important. There's a bunch of those books already and they're good. Join a burgers contagious word of mouth marketing by Andy certain events phys by Ted, right? Anatomy of buzz by man were Rosen. Like, there's a lot of really good books on word of mouth that. And all of those authors are interviewed in our book. But what we have added to the conversation is an actual six step process that any business large or small can and should follow to create test operationalize measure, a talk trigger, and I'll tell you is the exact same process that we use in my consulting firm convince a convert when we build talk triggers for clients all we did was take our process refine it a little bit. And then give it away in a book. It's the same process. And so you mentioned operationalize in Adam. And that's the key. I'll tell you the worst way to come at the top trigger categorically the worst way to do. This is to sit in a conference room and brainstorm it because if it was that easy you'd already have one right? So, but that's how everybody wants to do it. I like, let's get together. And we'll see. We'll get pizza and come up with a great idea. And it's not usually that. So what we always recommend is the first thing you do is map your customer journey. Right. So identify all the different touch points inflection points that you have with customers. The second step is to actually do customer interviews. We recommend three types of interviews. You talk to new customers longtime customers and lost customers and five or six interviews for each of those will be fine. Fifteen to eighteen interviews. Total should suffice. What you're looking for is asking the customer at each of these touch points. What did you expect? What happened what you're trying to do is map customer expectations to the customer journey. Because once you know, what your customers expect? What when you know, what they intimidate you by definition? No, what they do not expect or intimidate in the difference between what they expect and what they don't expect. That's where the gold is. That's where the. Trigger leads because if they expect it they will never talk about it. True. It's so true. It's like when you talk to folks who in banking who say well, people just want to save place to put their money. It's like yet. That's the definition of a Bank could do. So. Could think? Yeah. Exactly. So here's a question as we talk about expectations as customer stay with a brand for a long time. Does this become ordinary? Does it become not talkable? Like, you the cookies are a great example of something with a lot of longevity. But I imagine that not everything has that. So how do you how do you figure that out yet? I it's a really interesting point. Because if here's what happens when you lose the power of remarkable because the first thing that talked trigger must be is remarkable. Meaning it is worthy of remark. It has to be a story worth telling. And sometimes the world changes or competition moves in and you just no longer have enough remark. Ability to power the story. I'll give you two examples. Three examples, I will three exact science example. Wow. Enterprise. Rent a car enterprise had talked trigger for twenty years. It was called. We'll pick you up. They were the only rental car company that would pick you up. Avis wouldn't do it hurts would do it budget wouldn't do it. And that was a great talk trigger until Uber because if I can press a button on my phone and get picked up anytime anyplace. Why do I need the weird rental market to drop me off like I don't. That's no longer. Valid. Right. So that no longer works. Even more recent example, perhaps is as EPO. Brandin? I'm sure you've talked about on the show number of time. They pioneered maybe they perhaps weren't the very first. But they were certainly the ones who popularized the concept of free to shipping. You buy shoes. You don't like these shoes? Send it back. We want charging back at the time. That was crazy. Could not believe it like that was a talk trigger for sure I mean, I personally bought a bunch of stuff that boasts only because they're the only ones doing free tuition. I think we all did. Now, however almost everybody does free to shipping. It's not a talk trigger not for anybody. Just competition matched it right? Same thing happened in the hotel business while back Weston may. Remember this tried to do the heavenly bed, and the the idea was that they're going to have the most comfortable bed in any hotel at such a good idea. Hilton was like, yeah, we're going to do that. And mary. Hi. Did like all kinds of bed a bed war, and nobody claims comfortable beds because everybody's bed has gotten better. So sometimes you get lucky like DoubleTree does. And sometimes competition comes into matches it sometimes the world around. You changes like enterprises case, which is why it's so critical when you're going through this process and says how we do it on the consulting side to to identify five or six talk triggers in your strategic onto policy process. And then you test the one you like best, and if it sufficiently talkable than you roll that one out across the enterprise, but you always wanna keep tabs on the other ones like your semi-finalists that you didn't actually rolled out because you never know where you're going to have to go back to the list because competition matched one that used to be yours. I would I would argue that. That's what Zappa has not done it. Like if you say what's his apple says talk trigger today? I don't think they have one. Which is why people don't talk about them like they used to. I think that's so true. And one of the things I've noticed in some way. Work with clients is that a lot of times the disruptors of the industry, they come out of nowhere with a great talk trigger or just a different way of doing something. And it's great. And then all of a sudden, they're the they're not the disruptor. They're like the old brand suddenly because everybody else copies them and they're still thinking they're revolutionary. And so it's kind of you really do have to pay attention. I think to the expectations of the entire marketplace. Not just what's happening in that moment that you come up with a talk trigger, and I love how you talk about piloting the talk triggers to one on measurement of of of talk triggers. Like one of the things that's held word of mouth back as a discipline. And as a budget center notion that it's somehow witchcraft right that it's. It's not it's not measurable. It's not like search or display or whatever that it's somehow a dark art. And and I. I hate it. I hate it. When people talk about things not being measurable because the reality is everything is measurable it. Just how much time and money you wanna put against it. When people say it's not measurable what they really mean is it's not measurable for free or it's not measurable easily same thing. Right. So word of mouth is infinitely measurable. You just have to actually do some work. So we do it two ways. We always do a fairly comprehensive. Consumer chatter analysis, right social media ratings and review sites would people say when they Email the company what do they say on the phone with reps like whatever now that typically will happen more in a consumer product scenario, you want to augment that and particularly in B two B where you might not see as much native consumer chatter with actual word of mouth survey. So what we do is. We ask customers every customer who has experienced the talk trigger three questions. So a three questions or may sometimes you can tack this on the end of an NPS survey, which makes it up racially pretty easy to do. We ask three questions question one since you bought from us or or experienced our brand in whatever way. Have you told anybody about our company? Yes. Or no question. Yes question too is presented. What did you say? Open ended text box. What you're looking for here is on aided mention of the talk trigger. Then question three. Did you happen to mention any of these things in its pick list usually of seven elements of the brand one of those seven is the talk trigger. So what you end up within is. Did you talk? Yes. No on aided mention of the talk trigger and aided mentioned of the top trigger. And when you when you run that kind of analysis routinely, then we'll know for a fact how Aqaba all it is. Now, the one part that's difficult to aspertain and most people are fine with this. But some art is will great. In Doubletree's case thirty four percent of their customers talked about the cookie, but how do we know how many of those cookies conversations created customer room nights? And that is a little difficult to get it not impossible. But a little tricky interesting. And I know we're sort of tight here someone wrap up with going back just a little bit. Because something was very interesting into the discussion about Zappa's and about sort of these talk triggers do differentiate between. Defining talk trigger between something that is just an industry innovation as opposed to sort of an add on us to think about the cookie. That's an adolescent right is just a signature sort of move that hotels known for, but it doesn't affect your stay or anything like that. As opposed to the free shipping or glass screens on touchscreens on a phone, or whatever technological innovation that is later matched by competition. Is there do you ever differentiate between those two things? Great question. Not per se. But I would tell you that most talk triggers are the former you know, it is it is it is something kind of outside the regular bounds of doing business. But but not always. But most most are and nothing is an industry innovation until as you said two or three people do it. So so every industry innovation. I would argue started as a talk trigger. Right. It was whoever figure at least early. But most of the case studies in the book, and there are dozens and dozens dozens and dozens of them are as you say at it's not necessarily core to the product necessarily. It is something slightly different that they do. But there are examples to the contrary Uber conference, for example, right free conference calling service. They have who Larry is hilarious hilarious on hold music that they play when you're wearing the conference call to begin. They're the only ones who do that. It is their talk trigger. There's tons and. Tons and tons of social media chatter about it. I would argue that hold music is fairly endemic to a free conference call in service, but but it works as a talk trigger partially because it is. So that element of the service is so perfunctory end. Mundane is one of the interesting things of word of mouth is that you take something that super-duper boring, and you put a little twist on it, the conversational impact that is huge because people expect so very little of it. That's perfect. I think that is a perfect mic drop moment right there. Thank you. Thanks so much for being here. Van the book fantastic interview as always on point, please let our audience know where they can find you find the book all that good stuff. Thanks very much. Great talk to you guys. As always if you go to talk triggers dot com. There is a tremendous amount of free information there. There are PowerPoint presentations, there is videos infographics research book club discussion guides all kinds of stuff that talked triggers dot com. The book itself can be found all the places in ways that books can be procured in your local bookshop, obviously online. There's an audible version read by myself and my terrific co author. Daniel lemon kindle version as well. I will say though, just as a note as we close the book talk triggers has talk trigger as you might expect. The book says on the back satisfaction guaranteed. If you buy this book and do not like it though to talk triggers dot com and send the authors note, and they will buy you any other book of your liking. Addition bible. We'll we'll try and track down. If you don't like the book, we will make it. Right. And then some that is our promised you. So quite literally there is no reason to not buy this book because you have absolutely no risk whatsoever. It's awesome to. And so I'm happy that I have the book, I'm not getting another one. Well, thank you so much Jay. This was fantastic. And congratulations on the great book. And as always just keep doing what you're doing. We all appreciate it. So thanks for being with Jane. Appreciate like show. Thanks. Thank you. Well, that was a fun discussion. And I think part of what is so intriguing about what J shares, and what J Daniel share in the book is that, you know, your talk trigger for your customers is going to be different than mine. And that's exactly what makes it special. Same is lame is one of the things they say in the book, and I agree same as lane. But if you were to offer me chocolate chip cookies, I would talk about it. Even if I'm not the DoubleTree because it's just so out of the ordinary experience, I expect for Ginny that would cover talk trigger a derivative one and a little bit of a stale one hope. Put bring when you come to Orlando bring cookies that's all I'm really getting at. Well, I'm glad to see you've got your priorities in the right place. Learn a lot from this discussion. I really not. That's my takeaway genie. Bring me cookies, please. Now. Of course, it was fantast every book j does is great and truly insightful. And I you know, what I like about this concept is I like concepts at apply at every level of business in every level of scale this. Whether you're the restaurant on the corner, or you're the massive fortune one hundred company, right? You can use this process. You can use this idea to create better word of mouth and to to operationalize word of mouth. Yes. Yes. It really is a very well done book. And I think anybody can learn from it. And and it just makes you smile like the talk triggers that they use in the book in that. We talk about as customers are things that that really stick with us because. They made us happy. They made they were unexpected they made a smile, and so it's fun to talk about those things read about those things too. So go out and get it. That's what that's what I'm saying the book and on that very bossy note. We want to shift it to appreciation here. And thank you so much for listening to crack the customer code. If you haven't yet subscribed. We would love to know why not because we believe that. If you're listening to this. You certainly want every episode coming straight to you. So the only way to do that is to make sure you're subscribed. Wherever you listen to podcasts. And we are the only ones with an octopus eating ice cream on the corner. That's true. That's. Here. Crack the customer code is a proud member of C, suite radio believe it or not this business content. So be sure to check out all the great business content at C, suite radio dot com and C suite TV dot com. I'm Jeannie Walters, and you can learn more about me, and our trade March customer experience investigation process, aka c x y and and more at experience investigators dot com, and you can learn more about me. My keynote speaking customer service workshops in training, and all the ways, I if you talk about me. Is that work is that how you doing trigger? I'm just. Jake's way that I am slow. I cannot. So anyways customers stick dot com. You can find me there, and we can talk all kinds of things does Anthony. Anthony. Have most importantly than this is truly the most important thing until next time take care of himself and take care of your customers.

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Who Needs KD?

High Noon

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Who Needs KD?

"Yeah. Maybe baseball team has Saint Petersburg, Florida. They added lean if they can play to cities, Saint Petersburg, and Montreal because we wouldn't wanna play in two states. There is a weird cultural figure. It's like you get hulk HOGAN marrying. Selene Jeon, like what about ten Montreal really go to kill? The other part is the old worst stadium in baseball was in Montreal. The new had been baseball isn't. So they're just bring a history together youthful. I the nets sue began to Brazil in favor decide Kyrie Irving days ago. But now seem a little apprehensive about that, according to the New York Post, and that's loved the idea, bringing kyri in with Kevin Durant. But if Durant doesn't sound, we're Brooklyn nets might prefer to stick with the ngelo Russell, and there's disagreement within the fraud office over this decision Pablo, if you were Brooklyn, would you rather sign career keep Russell? I think I'd rather keep Russell, and that is no real slights at kyri, because I think Jerry is like the greatest ball handler I've ever seen. A guy who was great finishing at the rim all of that stuff, but his main value to all of these teams. Bowl was as the friend to guys who are way, better for the Knicks was Kevin Durant for the nets presumably, it was Kevin Durant for the Celtics. They was Anthony Davis and Kyrie Irving seems like he's getting zoned by those guys. They don't want to settle down with him. And so what really is his value without them? Well, I think he has great value without them because he's such a good good good player like their weaknesses in his game. But you're better having like I think he's a better player than diangelo. Russel short sample. Right. The only thing about it is, I don't know how far you can go if Kyrie Irving is your best player. But let me tell you what's really hard to do finding a player that's better than Kyrie Irving. So when you had Kevin Durant, or even tell about Anthony Davis, okay? Cool. Now you have that. So if I'm the nets, I can probably get the answer, rust cheaper. I did just see kyri be part of a little bit of a chemistry disaster in Boston. But the nets is good as they were last year it as much as we think they're fun. And they're well run. Don't nobody give damn about the nets like we live in the city. Man. They don't register in that. Way, they would register in that way. If they got every year have go at least they'd register more than they have with the Angelo, Russ, I think you're right about everything in just said, my only issue is that the way that the nets are thinking, when it comes to shoot me prioritize influence and fame and impact in our city over basketball, wisdom, and disciplined. That sounds real Nick see, like the whole point of the nets not doing that. I think is to build a franchise that is set up to be a long-term contender and getting kyri seems like a short term win. Well carries what twenty six years old? So I mean it's not like we're talking about getting Chris Paul at his age at this point to do this. That was the thing about it. Is this the relevant stuff does matter like really you are from here? I just got here you are from here. How good with the nets after beat a rate in this city? How many games do they have to win really good? Okay. Is in game. Okay, here. Just gives the Angelo Russell the guy that's necessarily going to get you there. I don't know. I don't think this is quite as simple as people want to make it to be. But it's weird and Kyrenia each twenty-seven. Let's give him his full credit there at age twenty seven what he just didn't boss. Sten if that doesn't matter what does that ever going to matter because really the experiment, that was run in which he is the adult and all the kids are gathered around him unwilling to learn at his knee. Why is that so different from what would happen in Brooklyn with all of their young counterpoint is the very unique situation that Boston head where they had these two guys they did more than this team is done without kyri. There's not that variable to the Gordon Hayward situation that you've got there with the nets do have those guards, these guys that are already there. So I don't think it necessarily has to go the way it did in Boston, because I think even if Kyrie wasn't there have been a lot of stuff that went on with Boston. It just does feel kind of crazy to kyri is at very least or the twenty best players in the league. And we got a team like, yeah, I don't know if I want that and that means that the kyri tenure in Boston was a failure for literally everybody involved, everybody involved in people now who weren't even involved, or like yes. Let's steer clear of that, because what the nets have though they haven't seen that was pretty good last year. They got drilled by the Sixers. The end but that's back for a game at the very least was promising. And now you wonder with the Angelo Russell, I have to say when he was, you know, snap snitching on Nick young and ending his relationship. When was basically the most unanimous Pariente at the league at ever seen doubt people would rather have them. For up toward reasons. How much things have changed. And for the off court reasons is precisely why the motive is that we gotta get kyri into Brooklyn. No man, because I feel like Brooklyn is the home of over stand in third. I type though we get kyri out there, but the guy bodies man, it'd be whole new boots and clan coming out here since but truly oil and everything we got that across the bridge. But up next is Kevin Durant, because our pal Brian Windhorst Monty has some insight into how the warriors could approached the world's biggest domino. Brian says that Golden State is contemplating a five years supermax contract for K D all, which would give him one year and fifty seven million more dollars. And you could get anywhere else. The warriors could then let him rehab and then work with him on a trade next season potentially to New York. Whatever it is he wants to go. So what do you make of that idea? I don't know dog like it's one thing for a team to be willing to pay all the money to sign Kevin Durant. It's another for them to be willing to pay the money to sign him. And we got to give up some stuff all because the warriors are over here feeling guilty because this is the guilty sounding thing I have ever heard in my life or to be fair to the warriors. Maybe it's the flip side of what happened with as Thomas in Boston. I think the players are ridiculous in their feeling that Boston did is they Atanas wrong. They with anybody would have done under that situation. But with the war is doing is the complete opposite of that. No, please come rehab on our dime. Yeah. I guess, you know, who is an favor of this. I have to imagine Draymond green, because green just explained to everybody how what he really hated about the Kevin Durant? Experience was all of the questions about K D. What is this setting up? If not a tremendous news cycle, that'll last us, it seems per the CBA into December, or January, depending on particulars of Kevin Durant's contract, because that is the. Soon as they could do this delayed, sign, and trade. They could get rid of him in the winter, which means that in the intervening months, are they going to be recruiting, Kevin Durant? Or are they going to actually try and convince them? Hey, you may want to stay here now that we love you like this, because that basically insurance, we get a rerun of a lot of the mess that we got last year to be clear the way that went hers is reported this is that the plan would be to sign him in order to trade him. But I agree with you once the names on the paperwork, what in the world can Durant, do they started doing that, and it is going to come back and you get a little league about, hey, I hear, Kevin Durant thinks he wants to stay the only thing about this is of, and I think Jason Williams made this point, he might be willing to stay with the warriors, you might be willing to rehab, but anybody rehab with wars, there's no way into world. You can put his body in the hill these people ever ever ever again. Especially not at they're playing is to trade him because then all they need him to do is pass a physical. Well, that's the other weird thing is about, what does it take to actually, execute this trade because if I'm other teams in the league, I'm also wondering? So what kind of arrangement really is this, because if you're the warriors and you have a team that's creating with you for the greatest player in the world went healthy? Are they going to try, and, you know, like negotiates are they going to try and actually extract stuff of value, because that to me is something that could blow up a relationship all over again? But one if you're the Knicks you gotta feel as Celtic like we've used to go sign him for him. Number two, I don't even know if this is apropos of anything. But the producers told us to look at the wall to wall, Kevin Durant. You got that yarmulke into. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Verse yarmulke in the bed just let it be a yarmulke. Okay. That's all did didn't have to do anything. I've never been to a bar mitzvah. Coming up next. The thunder about to make big moves. Download the hiding podcast and Balantes Tony Kornheiser's. Have you seen Kornheiser? He is gorgeous. Hi name is coming to you from the seaport district Pierce seventeen brought to you by chase. All right. Here's max Scherzer who broke his own nose ill-fated attempt at a but you bet your take more serious next time buddy. Maybe all we learn how he learned. So here he is last night. He had his highest average velocities as two thousand nine and ninety six mile an hour, I cannot imagine consistently landing on your front leg with a broken nose like that. No. And he went with no mask. I was hoping for a rip Hamilton lake experience. But instead, he was like, not, I don't need any protection for my face which has already been broken. I tell you this. I bet he wasn't too much chin music. Let me feel like you throw at me and you got a broken nose. I'm coming out to to see putting family as a sub one year, eight overs last six or so starts and might need some religious headgear in the back there to actually looking at that. Well. Trade for Mike Conley. The Utah Jazz announced themselves as a legitimate intended to make the finals next season. Roads. Zach Lowe problems this trade make the jazz the contenders in the west. There's so many seem to be labeling. The man, I think it does it's weird because I heard this trade process it, and I was like, okay, that's cool. Then you look around and you're like why don't they have as good a shot as any to make the finals? Mike, Conley is somebody who does the pick and roll really well, really efficient the jazz run as much picket role as anybody in the league to jazz are a team that needs shooting is everyone does Mike Connelly's a career thirty eight percent shooter. Mike Conley plays defense Mike Conley does all sorts of things that will make this team better. Especially with Donovan Mitchell has the guy who was handling the ball, so mutt. Well, what I've always felt like with Mike Conley is that he is a good player, but he can't make a bad team much better. But he can't make a good team noticeably better. And that's where Utah's going be. They have to run. What Rubio at the point, this is a much better situation that because Rick Rubio lives on self checks. So you're right. Get the ball out of doubt. If emissions hands, perhaps save in from just spending his life is an inefficient chucker, which people were going to realize a lot sooner before. You had this idea bring it Conley, in until your larger point. Why not think of them as more really, why not? They were to five seed last year in the west. Houston was the four seat, they just got noticeably better by making this trade. And if we believe that the west is wide open, because the warriors aren't there. It's got to at least be open to the five c. Oh, absolutely. And that five seed last year was also the best team or the second best team after the rockets after the all star break. And if you look at their starting five right? And you start with Conley and you get to Joe Ingles and you get to Donovan Mitchell in the vet court. But then you add on Rudy Gobert, really the power Fords. The only real question Mark, but this is a league in a conference all these questions when I feel like power forwards only really a question market. They lead Derrick favors go. But the problem with favors is hard to play him and go out there at the same time, the big problem that I think, with Utah. This is tricky would go bear because go bear is maybe the best defensive player in the league. He and Embiid or up there in that discussion, you could scheme him off the floor, right? Because of the way that he plays with the wrong line of he can be scheme. Off the floor. And so what happens is your most game changing player. That's what go bear is, is also one people can just push off. Next, quote, Oklahoma City has increased its efforts this afternoon to shed salary along with the number twenty one pick and route to dodging luxury tax. Stephen Adams, Andre Roberson, Dennis Schreuder all vary. Available at the moment. Tweeted, Jake Fisher of Sports Illustrated. So Bo is it smart for the thunder to shed luxury tax and make Stephen Adams of bailable at Aamodt money? I totally understand why it is that if you own this team, you would not want to get into the territory of the tax and being in the territory of the Tex-Mex improve your team that affects mid level, all of that stuff like that. So I kinda get it, what I would be curious about, though, is what exactly the market for Stephen Adams would be because contrary to what you might think Stephen Adams is twenty five years old. But I can only imagine the mileage. That's all Ned twenty-five. He makes twenty five million dollars a year. You're not gonna find a big man as good as him very easily out there, and he makes a difference for them. But I would not blame team for wanting to get out ahead of what might be his physical decline. Well, there's the physical decline of Stephen Adams, there's the decline of Russell Westbrook who is at age thirty older, and he's older than his three point percentage last year. That is an enormous problem as you've discussed over and over again this season. But to get back to the luxury tax idea. Let's keep something in mind, too. Clay Bennett historically hates paying the luxury tax. But last year, the GM Sam prestige basically asked for a big raise his allowance. He said, I need more what happened the thunder went to three hundred million dollars. The first team in NBA history to do so combining the cap and attacks and what did they get? They got another first round exit. So if you're clay Bennett that was the year when I gave you the leash now that Lisa's shortening all the way that, well, this is where the warriors, I think kind of flip the game because keeping that thing together as they did required a willingness to pay the taxes. Keep going requires a willingness pay tax goes into finance or the purpose of the tax because the whole idea was to make people act like clay Bennett. Did you look around the league guys realize, okay, I guess, certain level of thing we might have to pay the tax that is going to dial itself back we'll on. It's weird now because again what the jazz have in front of them to funder. Also have in front of them. They of the Western Conference where they're like two teams that I can see that are probably not in the playoffs. The grizzlies end the sons. But everybody else's kind of in this problem for the funder as Paul George just had a double shoulder surgery. Russell westbrook. Does not seem to be improving that team seems to have a ceiling. That's lowering as the floor is opening up for everybody else. This is going to become another Billy Donovan show improve year. Yeah. Coming up next, the Knicks say, no. Thank you, Chris Paul, like like for their team. Dame lillard. Anthony Davis Klay Thompson. Danna Terachi Netco. We'll McKay Gina who McCain Space, Jam stalks. Ooh, I'm into that. People are kind of, like throwing shade at it. But like the Muggsy Bogues and Shawn Bradley in the first one all these people, I think are bigger than them. I got news, well, bigger than Mosey bows, which trying to say, well, bigger figurative, he'll, he'll come up here rocky. Oh, jaw Baltimore number seven because the NBA draft is tonight at seven o'clock on ESPN seven eastern ideas, Pablo, what are you most excited to see you tonight? I'm excited to see trades whoa, JR. Said there will be an extraordinary number of trades, and as much as I appreciate our Jay baron, Zayn Williamson, our friend John Mirant. I kind of get them I've seen them before. I just want to know what the rest of the league is going to do in this season in which everything is seemingly possible. You don't know who any the other players in the draft are no. Okay. So what's the excitement about the trades? Oh, they're gonna shuffle around and get another guy that I've never heard of what? May include players that I have heard in the trades for those guys that I haven't, and that's where it could get interesting. Specifically a number. I have to say this man, the universe taken away, what I always found to be the most site and mos- Anderson part of the draft. And that was ugly suits and the ugly suits have been taken away by stylists. And blamed LeBron James above allows us, the first dude, I remember showing to the draft knew it was clear. He had somebody help him pick out his soup. I miss the days him do obviously picking out. They own suits. Not very often Fisher Price, my first suit or at least. That's what I thought he was Jalen when he showed up with their fire injured ribs suit, he showed up like Detroit, Detroit, what that used to be the best part of the draft. There is a whole hall of fame gallery, actually just consisting of people that we work with, and the suits, they wore because there is Jalen was the all time, I think, in terms of the draft suit, then there's t MAC on NBA TV wearing the stuff with all the with the draft though, Karl below. That's the that, that is maybe the legendary drafts Akiva lodge with the tuxedo was way up there shut person with that tuxedo. Then. Called being white would have pink bowtie comer, but those are the ones that away up there. You really didn't have to skip over into this other stuff. In fact, trays mcgrady's ramp. I feel like I saw that in documentary the other day now's a big old suit. Well, I think Zion Williamson if he has any pressure on him, it'll be to not only execute death with Adam silver, it'll be to show up, correct. Because look at how he got all the attention sucked out of the corner of the room from our friend, Golda, Batat Zeh. I want to ask him questions. Neither. This is so sad. Man. It's not. He knows he knows who he is. He knows he's not. But as a journalist, this is an opportunity for you to actually get some stuff, one on one with the guy, you're not gonna get anything from Zion said, with a guy who is he, he's from Georgia, and he is big Sola by and. Minto's boarding, the different Georgia still. I got you what next number one hundred twenty four millions. That's how much money's left on the last three years of Chris Paul's contract. And now it turns out the rockets recently explored trading CPA theory to the next, but they refuse according to Kevin O'Connor rub, the ringer, Bomani are the Knicks smartening up three, maybe, but the do makes forty million dollars is not hard to say no to that. It's probably harder to come up with a way to really make this worth the time for, you know, I guess they had to cap space where they could have found a way to absorb that deal. No, good for the Knicks. I guess they did not fall for this would be the way to put it. However, he would make them better. They were probably make the playoffs next year. If they got Chris Paul and figured out something to go with him. He would make them better. They just don't need to be that kind of better. They're trying to get a superstar in the present that contend or they're trying to rebuild like a smart team would in the future. But what is interesting about this is that phrasing through in their absorbed into cap space that is what Chris Paul is? Now all the stories we've read indicate that the rockets are trying to literally give him away. If you've space to take him take him. It's like. If you go on Craigslist, and someone is saying, hey, take my couch out of my house. I will pay you to do it because I don't have the ability to get this garbage off of my property. That is how they're treating the best year or one of the best point, but, but it'd be fair. They're, they're not treat them like garbage. They treat him. Like he makes forty million dollars a year. Right. He's like very expensive. But if somebody was saying this about seventy seven million dollar player, you'll be like, oh, man, how the mighty have fallen now they're just in one of those situations where the tax everything makes it so prohibitively costly. There's gotta be a better way to spend forty million dollars. I would probably thought of that before I gave the deal, but I guess that's what the last regime did. But there is a team out there that could use a guy who can absolutely provide some rest for your superstar, especially that superstars overworked who can run offense who can defend play two ways. And that team is actually, the Houston Rockets, the rackets could use fall. Only problem is that James harden. Chris Paul don't seem to want to play with each other. Go. Go. Enclosed. While I fear with some of you doing out here, raising these kids. More processed bills, teaching the world led them lead the way you know what that's all do. Now, this is going to be quick, pay very close. Attention right here. There we go. It looks like is I don't know if he's the Dan or the Oakland this situation Bush shout out to that kid, having amazing manual dexterity like that's a lot to ask. The kid today as to get to class and the next move. That is a more advanced version, because when Adam silver tonight will Depp up all these guys. He doesn't do this version of death. Hold on. Let's get another look at the do this doing the death. I'm trying to figure out. He's related to oh, wait a minute. The same because I believe the children are future, but you're focusing on the go, here we go to the kids. I forgot. Oh, there is. Oh, oh, oh, I am mostly glad that we got through a segment on dapper almost all the way through without you throwing shade of me for my dad procedure you ever procedure? Well, mentally, I have to keep track of all the different types of data sets that I can execute the death about coming up with air like when I tried to tackle, Stephen, and I take that one time. Okay. No, okay later in closing. I'd like you to meet these nuts. Of a meth addict, it squirrel is going viral county. Investigators found those squirrel during a drug bust, this video shows the animals in a cage world jumping from bar to bar. It's heart beating rapidly. Pulse. The squirrels owner who's facing some serious charges between two thousand one and two thousand nineteen Paul has been booked into limestone county, jail tweet, eight times, to be exact after hearing this list and hearing about the possible method acted squirrel. Some of polk's neighbors say there's no point in hiding out shave here. Looking for. He might as well, come on in turn because it's over he need not wash. The calendar watch the clock because they got this needs to be prosecuted to the fullest. Oh, the love of the not here for the like I don't really know much about meth world. But I was under the impression that she wouldn't is out here, wasting it is out here, giving them at the weight of wherever we wanted even if it's an animal and in defense of this squirrels owner, he says that no meth was given to the squirrel, whose name is, of course, these nuts which reminds us, of course, of our other favorite animal of a similar John rouse. We can queue that up because that's what we do pay spider. Spider both of these nice. And they come on. Going away easily find one hundred dollars. Trying to battle back over these cage fighter, both only to victory by head over cage. Out to the conversation producers had to have Chuck salad turell about that. Because we got to do it again. I didn't even ask them to do it. Questionable. Coming up next.

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Episode 142: leaf botany part one - shape

On The Ledge

41:56 min | 2 months ago

Episode 142: leaf botany part one - shape

"I love my dog Murphy. But when I don't love is the burn marks that appear in the lone everywhere. He's lifted his leg. That's why I'm really glad to have found a completely natural solution to the problem of those burn marks on the Ross Dope Brooks and thanks Brooks physicals in this episode of on the Ledge don't rooks a so easy to use just pop them in your pet's water bowl and you should start to see the difference on your lawn shrubs and hedges in three to five weeks don't Brock's deliver to the US Canada the UK and Europe and they're endorsed and used by vets pets and their parents worldwide so to get fifteen percent off your first order of dog Rox visit dog Rox Dot Com and enter the Voucher Code Jane P that's J and e P dokes a token natural product with no side effects and they don't change the Ph balance of your pets here and so fifteen percent off your first order visit don't rocks to come and into the Voucher Code Jane Hello and welcome to owned alleged podcast my name is Jane Perron but my school nickname was botany in this week's show episode one hundred and forty two. We're talking about leaves delving into the botany of the leaf. I talk to Professor Enrico Coen of the John Innes Centre about why leaves are shaped as they are by the way pants. Have your mind absolutely blown? By what Professor Cohen Tells Me? I offer up a little serie about the names. We give the plant shapes Stephen From Plant Daddy. Podcast joins me to answer a listen. Acuna with a leafy theme and last but not least we meet listener. Kayla a big show out to Vicki and the catch titled P. G. Eight Three BB seven. A for leaving me reviews on port. Bean saying how much they enjoy on the ledge and to Nikola and Rosalie who both became patriarch subscribers this week and decree who gave me a donation on code DASH DOT COM. You all the finest of fine people and I salute. You can't see that but I am actually saluting you. Thank you so much for everything that you do to support on the ledge and if you want to show the show a bit of love then why leave a review on your product of choice photo friend and tell them about the show? All if you're feeling flush bone me a quick to own pay Powell Codex Find Patriots when it comes to leave talk and God knows I love Lee Talk. There are a little terms. Bandied around that you may or may not be familiar with. I'm going to run through some of them now just to give you an idea of the range of terminology that you can use to describe leaves. I mean why bother you can say well. Relief is round or it's pointy or it's holy. Why bother with all these specialists terms well part of the reason? Is that as you get more into this hobby? No doubt you'll start reading up online and in books about plants and you'll find these terms start to come up and learning. These terms just helps to enhance your understanding of what you're reading. So what are the some of the terms that you're likely to come across? Well let's start at the very basic level with the leaf walk makes up the structure of the leaf. Well the Lamma is the blade of the leaf. The flatbed the that we possibly most interested in and the stock he bit well. That's the patio but do remember not who plants have patios. Some of them joined straight onto the stem. And it's an adaptation that saves the plant some water and listen to bobby reminded me of another useful pair of words when describing leaves and that's back. Co and Adak seal yet. You have to have your teeth in when you say those the opposite of visit belief. That's the Adak seal and the underside. That's the AB axial again. You might come across that one when you are reading about plants and that just helps you to know what is what. And then there's a whole set of words just describing the shape of a leaf. I think you notice about relief. When you're looking at is is it. Simple or compound now simple while that's fairly obvious it just means the leaf is one whole thing together rather than having some complex design whereas a compound leaf well that's formed by a number of flits that join together and then attach onto the stem and there's a couple of different coins compound leads your probably going to come across in the House plan world. Probably the most notable is compound pommie now and as is often the case the clues in the name a compound Paul Mate. Leave looks a bit like a hand. So if you think of a horse chestnut leave or in the House Plant World Shuffler relief. You are along the right lines and you can. Of course get palm. Eight simple leaves think spicier Japonica for example. That's a great example of a leaf. It looks like a hand but it's simple. It's all one leaf. The other form of compound leaf ease the P. natively compound leave and I guess the best example I can think of this. One is the sensitive plant Mimosa. Puteh Co where the leaflets are. All arranged in a straight line out in the garden the best example probably is arose some of the names of quite poetic. Iran the like Peltier eight which means a leaf where the patio joins not the edge of the leaf but somewhere in the center like Mr Shanley compete to that I also like has state which means a spear shaped leaf so think of a Philodendron artem being the perfect example again the Latin telling you something about relief and then we have the wonderful Lancia late which means quite simply shaped like allowance so in other words it comes to a point at the end. So think about your busy Lizzie. Impatiens classic Lawns Hiller leaves there are loads. More LINEAR world best. The spider plants leads right. Best fairly obvious. And then you've got something like Hoya carrier with its OPD coordinator leaves which means that harsh eight with the stem at the pointy and rather than the other end. If you want to go deeper into leaf shape names then do check out the show notes. Broil include some links to some wonderful pictures and diagrams of different types of shapes and he can spend hours learning the all. But how is a leafs shape determined? Why is this so much variation? Well this was where I need to call in an expert. I'm Enrico Coen. I'm research scientist Jonas Center Well we try and study and understand how plant forms are produced. How leaves grow how flowers get shapes often look at around my growing collection of House Plaza? Just wonder the amazing variety of leave shapes demonstrated even in my body's collection do have any insolent for us about why certain leaves are shaped as they are what what is it. What are the factors that determined the shaper indeed leaf size leaves a fascinating terms of the as you say variety of shapes the produced and one of the big questions which we still don't know all the answers to is how these shapes generated manmade shapes? We have a notion of how we make a spoon or plate because there's next to hand off our own hand the the process but with a leaf as with most biological structures there is no external hand it all has to figure out how to produce these shapes internally and Just as in a sense you could imagine how just to we use the musical scale. A single musical scale can produce all the different music that we hear from symphony used concertos to pop music and yet it's the same notes. It's the way in which the organized and put together the generates this amazing Variety of music and the same way leaves have a set of basic ingredients. And it's the combination of these ingredients allows still many different forms to be generated so although he's Mabul variety forms underlying that Some basic rules to get combined and also some glorious ways to produce the shapes. We see any kinds of Meka of tickly useful to study where you're trying to understand How leaf works. You're absolutely right. We CAN'T STUDY. Olie's we study a few to understand the basic principles and one of these kind of work who'll plant genetic and developmental studies and that's a weed called Arabic dope system Eliana and because it rapid cycles rapidly We can study. How something like its shape of leaf is generated the other plan that we have been spending some time on is Congress. Plant you tricky. Larry it give a this once known as a black and it has a remarkable cup shaped leaves that can trap small animals. It doesn't have roots. It gets his nutrients by basically trapping these small animals and studied that shape as well so he studied to extreme shapes as it were flat. Leaf up this we eat and how how you go from a flat leaf into the more intricate shape. That traps animals. And in general. You find that the Mo- more complicated shapes and leaves are often associated with interactions with other organisms Like the pitcher plan so fly traps all these. Things are quite elaborate in that mechanism in shape because they're dealing with animals that's dealing with enticing animals today doom and most cases just as a flower. You have lots of different complicated shapes of flowers. 'cause they're also enticing animals the the bees pollinators in that case whereas many leaves flats Because that's to do with photosynthesis so if all maintaining the nutrition so if Elif is mainly involved in photosynthesis you tend to get a flattish shape but the outline can vary whereas if the leaf is being adapted to interact with a an animal you often encounter more intricate shape but all shapes. We discovering a produced by these common rules combined in different ways. I have this rather naive thing that the larger relief the greater amount of shade. The plant likes because because it's trying to collect more light if it's by being bigger. I'm sure that's gross over simplification but is there something in. That absolutely is something interesting. Question is if you're a plant. Is it better to produce one big leaf or lots of little leaves because the St will get the same surface area in both cases? It's a question. Do you go home. Depot all your eggs in one basket. In fact there are some plants. I only have one leaf. Growing cliffs and They just grow from the base and the leaf gets bigger and bigger and bigger. But the problem with that strategy is sometimes that in terms of relation. If you WANNA capture Internet with the atmosphere you want is often better to have multiple space leaves Rather than having them just a single leaf produced at one level. And so does this. She's like that gas exchange and Raising the leaf above a certain height in order to have compete those so The shape and number of leads just the size. It's also the number of lease is quite a complicated thing. The best strategy is can vary from one situation to another. Which is why you will find if you just step into your garden or in a wild. Meta used plans with all sorts of different shapes and sizes. And please and that's because of these different tradeoffs what you go for to go size or number. That's an interesting was in isn't expos. You've got something like the sensitive plot in those appear to care which has got those tiny little leaflets. We've mentioned if you lose one or two of those it's not the end of the world but if an animal comes along and pulls off one giant leap for for plan that's taken off half its foliage. That's more more severe attack. That's really interesting. Is there any way of looking at a plot and looking presumably you can count key late leaf surface and make some comparisons? They were okay. This plants got ten times the number of leaves this but actually it's area focusing. This is actually greater overall because it. Because it's just got so many leaves that's right. I mean they can go further than that. People can stimulate the growth plan so that you can take into account shading the angle of the leaves and so forth. And so you can calculate this or the photosynthetic capability of different architectures different strategies. And they're all being we don't do we do that type of research ourselves but there are people that the that's the main concern trying to understand how these different canopies interact and the effective amount of light you'll getting is and also it may in some cases An given leaf be able to extract a certain fraction of the light that passes through it so that some light will pass through leaf and then hit relief below it. So the firstly doesn't take everything the next week can take some so it's quite a complicated calculation but people do a study. Those things are interest more is in how you generate the leaf to begin with what is one of the principles by which it constructs itself rather than necessarily the adaptive features which are consequence of that. So it's a bit like trying to understand how fertilized egg tunes it so turned itself into us for example versus how you function every day in terms of your job and you'll constraints and clear the two connected because if you haven't developed inside you'll another you wouldn't be doing all these things but on the other hand we can separate them out to some extent and try and understand what are the basic principles construction and how that then relates to function. Saw Research is much more concerned with how you formed More than necessarily how you function one of the things that people seem to get very confused about is quite frequently one of the key plants of the moment. These wish cheese. They kind of have this idea that is gonNA grow. And then it's going to emerge and then it suddenly going to start developing holes in it rather than what actually happens. Which is the leaf. Even though it's a sort of some felt state is the shape is going to be once. It's out if you see what I mean. But simply because that that is all determined predetermined in the the gene of plant and is already set in stone and therefore people get bit disappointed when you say well no that that particularly isn't going to change. It's not going to suddenly develop your F- usually might become famous rated. That leaf is is going to stay that shape forever. Sometimes a bit disappointed by that. But I guess that's taps into what you're saying about the those decisions have already been made further back than the leaf unfurling out of our facility right. The form and shape of the leaf is established very early on Monster the case you gave is actually very interesting but the whole Because they arise through a process cool cell death program cell death So if you look you look at your hands. You see the gaps between your fingers. Well those gaps originally when you were an embryo. The whistle tissue between your fingers and gradually the bits between your fingers died theirselves with program to die. If they don't die you end up with web tense like a duck. So there's a specific set of genes involved. In killing the cells between you'll did and dot com creates these holes between you can think of it that way now that is unusual implants as they developed. Some leaves. Do do this and That's why Monster. Cheese plant looks so weird compact many of the lease because that one of the few species that go this soul death so very early on in development. Elif certain cells will die as a consequence of gene activity and that creates these holes But that is established early in development. You won't see as you say unless you go and tell you leave physically the phone spontaneously generate whole monkeys. Come out right and again. This is another one that people seem to get confused about is am I? I let you sort of descending occurred to me recently the Elif once a leaf is damaged. It's not like human skin. It doesn't really prepare itself. It'll stay damage for forever. But the nature of leaves being as they are plants growing in the will grow. Pass the problem in gross new leaves so that it has a different strategy for dealing with damage than than us as humans we do I. That sounds ridiculous but I have people say to me. Oh look at. This leaf is damage. Will it will heal. And you say we'll know that your cat has scratched. And that's that's the way it's going to be until new leaves common and you don't notice it anymore. It's not in the least today. It's a fascinating Feature about plants animals. You see if we have a problem if we see somebody so coming with a knife to some shop teeth. We run away. We sort of we have an option avoidance now a plant cannot avoid okay stuck and its place So how do you do with it? Well one way plan can deal with. It is to be a taste unpleasant. So the thing doesn't want to we but if that fails and you eat them then How do you deal with it? And what plans do is. They have Marissa smooth growing regions. And that can regenerate the lost Paul. So it's not that the said if you take a good example the experts at this He's aggressive now. You go out and you mow. You'll little just think. Just imagine if you were a blade of grass or a grasp plan this every week this relentless sewing you'll pause because but actually what happens is because the these plants keep them. Marriage stems growing tips below the catch the cussing level the blade. They can easily regrow and replace well. It's being taken which is an which is an adaptation to herbals which we exploit them. We grow loans so That's remarkable strategies it's why for example grasses successful worldwide is because they have this ability to keep the Growing points as it were quite low down other plants. How growing points higher up so that when you cut them. They don't grow from the base they will grow from the next Branch French points down But grass is particularly good at this regeneration game. This really a re growing game. I'm derives precisely from the side of the Prince. Calm move and full comp Translate Kate and so they have this strategy. There are a few animals by the way they can. Regenerate like salamanders if you cut Limbs off these things she'll studying signed then they can regenerate them But humans vertebrates in general have a very pool regeneration capability And so we also have to defend ourselves by avoidance because once you know we lose a limb. That's IT WE COUNT. We conquer another one but the plans were you might feel sorry for the planet. Being chopped relentlessly but on the other hand has this relentless ability to grow back as well which is which is fantastic. It is and this is something we sometimes discuss on on the ledge because that the location of the mayor's matic tissue is is kind of important to us as house plant growers in terms of understanding how we can propagate different plants In terms of what if you haven't got that material than the plant's not going to be able to grow another type of cell. I E routes from a from a stamp for me for whatever and sometimes it's quite sad when you see people trying to try to propagate things that won't work the vary in their ability to switch stem so we rainy items for example you just need to put in water and what was. The stem will stop to sprout roots. That means that it's Essentially will it can produce new. You can reprogram its Marissa rather than producing shuts they can us don't produce roots so plans of and ability. Some plants less capable of doing that unless you tip them in home so sometimes you have to give them a hormone powder. Dip them in that and that can help them then. Produce Rooting stems so not only is it? That plants have mirror stems. They can also sometimes switch type of marriage stem so whether you generate Shoot or or a route clever stuff. This is amazing. I never cease to be astounded by the amazing thing that things that plants can do it right in front of our eyes which which is very very special. Is there anything else? We haven't talked about Enrico that we should cover on on in terms of your research or lead gone tremendously deep into what you've actually done but it's really interesting to hear. About how leaf shape is determined by what the plants are actually trying to get from the world in terms of the. The carnivorous carnival reverses photosynthesis. Is there anything else? We need to mention a couple of things that maybe we could say. One is when you say that plans amazes by the in sort of intelligence in their ability to do all these amazing things. It's maybe partly a reflection of the fact when we look at the world when driven by the assumption that movement is the most important sign off of life and intelligence we mobile animals and we judge people by the actions. And I'm stone exhibit. That behavior will the some plans to move at a rapid rate But one of the move much more and grow much more slowly than we can see by. We have this condescending view. Plants there The kind of the key. Because they don't move they can't be very small team. Oh they do But in fact having their amazing they can produce the most amazing structure exhibit that sort of intelligence and voted quote through a variety of different structures that they generate that we could not generate. I mean we. We can't grow chests for example. We can assemble chairs. We can't take a seat. Put it in the ground and it'll turn into a Three piece suite. We call it. You'd think that was miraculous if somebody can just imagine if you went into shock and they give you a season and you took it home and you put your water and sons into an iphone that would be viewed as a complete miracle miracle is happening around us all the time every time a plant construct itself and so it is a marvel and we sometimes taking for granted because familiar with it But it's something that just continually Continually Mazes and Re and that's really the basis of our research trying to understand how they do this. How they do this remarkable thing and one insight one way. Thinking about is a bit like the musical analogy. I was giving you earlier that just as an orchestra and produced an amazing piece of music by the coordinated activity of the players. So plants produce these amazing structures through the coodinated activity of that sells the cell components whereas an orchestra the key thing is what instrument you'll playing what union playing with a plan. The key question south has to ask is how much do I grow this way or that way in this direction that direction and as of of the leaf grows from. It's bud that's what's going on. There's an old castrated patent growth. In all these cells that is cool native between them and they're also kind of tensions that can be tensions between them just as you can have tension between the sort of string instruments and woodwind In some of the tunes that playing on that can be a creative Tension so as a plant grow certain cells will be going one way. We'll be trying to grow another way and not resulting bends and and and waves and all sorts of shapes and undulations so rude anyone. You're looking at a leaf. You will looking at the sort of the symphonic output from this Orchestrated time and we're trying to understand the principle that music is played as you talk about that. I was thinking about the the the particular drama of the genetic drama that must be going on and therefore in the leaves of any any sort of leaves. The show Camaro variegation. I know when I speak to botany. Sometimes who grow house plants inside their houses? They're very they. Don't like variegated plants. I think they get they get a bit sort of finding a bit much. But that that I find fascinating the fact that you've got will in my very basic understanding you've got two different sets of genes kind of competing in a single leaf to create this these incredible patterns that you get on something like a variegated monster which kind of takes that to another level for me. Another level of complication and amazement. That plants actually managed to to put out lease. Which you've got so much going on yeah I think that's a very good illustration of the fact that even with single leaf you'll have you're able to visually see the two layers because when you look at one of these very good at least you see the whites the green parts. And that's visually telling us that there are these two thing two types of tissue that somehow coordinated they still generate at least at the end of the even though these things perhaps not differently the whites and the green pop. But that's just the tip of the iceberg. That's just what we see by. It's like we're getting privileged view in that case actually happening. Every leaf is doing that Through internal mechanisms creating all these differences and patterns. But we just don't see them. What we see is the outcome be. House is a certain save. This league has different. This bend. This one has the jagged outline and so forth. We look at the outcome but we missed the drama which absolutely dramas a very good in this genetic drama. That's going on all the time as the cells grow and interact during the development of the well. I'm not going to look at a newly for any of my house plants in quite the same way again in Rica. That was really fascinating. Thank you very much for sharing that and I'm going to go. Look some leaves now with with renewed even more renewed fascination. That's a pleasure talking to you. Thanks a lot thank you so much to Enrico Coen who provided such an interesting insight into leaf shape there if you want to check out in Rico and what the John Innes Centre does then do look at the show notes where I will include some relevant links and now it's time for question of the week which is to do with a very particular kind of modified leaf the pitcher plant on penalties? And this question this plea for help came from Rachel. Her pitcher plant is in a bright bathroom with an east facing skylight but very little sun and the room get steamy from the buff and Rachel tries not to let the plant dry out. She says it's always been healthy and throws out new knees regularly but no pictures and she's had it for a couple of years. I am not a scandalous plot expert by any means so I called on someone who is and that someone was steven from the plant. Daddy podcast over to Stephen to commiserate with Rachel. I first of all I feel for this listener. I have been in this situation before right. You'd definitely by the plant wanting the pitchers that's kind of the I think the main part of the show for most people There's a bit of a checklist that we tend to run down when this is happening. First of all this is a gorgeous plant. It's huge. Jane was Nice enough to send me pictures. So yeah while Nice job over all right I think is this person probably has eight out of ten pieces correct. First thing I would change here I would increase the light. I think many of us living in northern latitudes so often we read or told to keep these directly to you know keep these in under story conditions where they grow but we have to remember that the equatorial regions. The Sun is so much or intense there so where we live. I wouldn't be afraid to Disney more intense like so. That's probably the issue I would say fifty percent chance of least increase delayed. You'RE GONNA see picturing after a month or two and I think you know keeping it in a bathroom that I think that makes sense. We think of these tropical plants they kinda look leafy and tropical. I wouldn't worry about humidity so much. I have mine picturing as low as I would say thirty five percent humidity just as long as they get that son I think. That's kind of the key component again. You can't bake them. I wouldn't put this in a you know. South West is a window that gets you know uninterrupted light all day but maybe something been more than the east facing window that I think the question so I would start bear see. I love the fact that you'll using pitcher as of a picturing I. I'm loving that. He's that conduct risk things that people say. Oh I'm just picturing right now investigation yes guilty. Yes that is one that is tossed around a lot so okay. Yeah thank you for translating. Yes people say that you know I must not be not be reading the right reddit threads or something. I don't know where these people are gathering. That's interesting well. That's a really good point. I don't think I've been in many bathrooms that have anywhere near decent like really this. I mean most bathrooms have pretty gloomy on Bay when my husband was doing his PhD. And I lived in his place for a while. He lived in like vicarage which was ancient and falling down. That had a really nice light bathroom because it was a really big window. Probably wasn't even a bathroom in the seventeenth century or whatever but Yeah the also had like fungus growing up from the ceiling and like dead trapped in the door so it wasn't your average bathroom but most bathrooms mining pleaded that pretty clean. I guess if you could find some way of getting a grow light on that plant within the bathroom that could work but I mean bathrooms in electricity. It's not always easy. Yeah you know it might just be a place that suited for another plant. Honestly I mean. You're so lucky to have bathroom any lines right. But maybe there's some humidity loving plant that can deal with a little bit less a little bit less light and really you look at that plant. It's gorgeous if you don't mind the interest not being there so yeah I guess that's the thing isn't it it's just people meshing vistas go off as an amazing plot in the bathroom and then what is it and kind of pitch from. Where's the pitches? That's the only like and to light. I mean these Any thing else to say about this plot in terms of encouraging. Is it like a seasonal kind of I mean I guess as you say it's equatorial so there's not really that much she's not going seemingly home environment so you can prompt pictures at anytime by getting that light right. Yeah I mean I think. Unfortunately there are a couple other wrinkles. I think of that those those first steps don't work. I think they will. But if they don't you can also try leading the temperature Is also might be difficult in a bathroom But I think a lot of people find that maybe when the summers get warm on pitchers sometimes can die in can stop a little bit. They can rest often what we buy in stores. These kind of hardier species are island these highland and lowland species if you kind of get more into the hobby You'll find that. Maybe you're familiar already listeners. In you Jane but These highland species. The temperature really dips at night in their native conditions. So they're used to that. They tend to grow better that way on people find here In Seattle kind of you know in northern part of the United States that In the wintertime when those temperatures dip more Picturing can improve. Sometimes they rested in the summer when the the temperatures higher or stable stabilty highlight that. So I think that's kind of the third lever would try again. I would try light. I but as go down the list that something that you could try as well okay. That's great advice. And hopefully some picturing will be occurring using that in a conversation today when or how. But I'm going to be putting that into a conversation when it's really nice to speak to you. Thank you for giving us your wisdom and hopefully picturing will occur shortly and really. It's about that listener gorgeous plants. I have a lot of hope so I I think it'll work out now. We hit the Michaela there on the ledge. My name is Kayla. I'm a listener from Chicago here in the US. And I am so excited to be part of the meat the listener series. I have been a listener of on the ledge since right near the very beginning from I found it through a couple of other plant. He friends that told me about it. And it has become one of my absolute favorite podcasts. I get excited for every episode every week. And it really is just one of the highlights of my week. I love just being able to listen to Jane. Share all of her knowledge and all of the experts that she has on to share their planning knowledge as well and it just makes me feel like a much better plant parent from learning all of the things that I can through the podcast. So I'm very excited to be a part of it question one. There's a fun and all your plans are about to burn you. Grab as YOU ESCAPE. Earl for me. I have a lot of plants. I live in a very small apartment and I have plants in pretty much every nook and cranny that I can cram them into but I'd say that if I had to pick only one who I would probably pick my monster delessio say I know it's kind of the most commonly loved plant but it is my oldest plant and it is my largest plant. I've had it for almost three years now and it is just huge and full and beautiful and I've watched it grow from when it was a baby little cutting So I would definitely take that question to. What is your favorite episode of Ledge? My favorite episode of on the Ledge. I have a few I obviously. I am a huge fan of so. I love the Hoya episode. I also really love the episode. That chain did about the socks of fraudulous stolen F era That is a plant that I don't hear people talking about a lot and I'm absolutely in love with it. It's one of my favorite types of plants. Have a couple of myself and that was really fun episode where she just kind of talked about it because she wanted to like she didn't have. Nobody asked her to talk about that. One and I really liked that episode. I and I always enjoy the episodes. She talks to experts especially the ones where she was talking to. The guy from savage garden about the carnivorous plants. That was another really amazing episode question. Three which Latin name do you say to impress people The latte name that I use the most I would say is probably TROTTA scanty up. I love saying Trots County. It's just so fun word and I'm not really a huge fan of the common term for that plant slow wondering Jew or whatever that's not a great name and I think that it's fund educate people about the real name of it plus. It's just much more fun to say to me. And I have told many a few plant friend what the actual name for it is question fool crew chelation as metabolism Goto. This is a hard one for me. I have a few tropical plants that I've seen have tation on them in the past and I think it's really cool but it does kind of make a mess again. I live in an apartment and it doesn't get all over the place so I'm going to have to see crash. Elation Nash Metabolism. I have a few plants in my bedroom that I have read or learned through podcast or other planty friends are very good for cleaning the air at nighttime and I have a few in their winner. I think my sleeping has really improved because of it question five. Would you rather spend two hundred pounds on a variegated monster? All Two hundred pounds on twenty interesting CACTI. That's all really hard for me because I am a huge fan of succulents and CACTI. I even have few succulent tattoos but I would probably go for the variegated on Sarah. I love on Sarah a lot and I already have probably way more CACTI than I could possibly have room for so I would say I would go for the variegated monster and go for a little bit of a splurge. Thank you Michaela. And great to meet another fan of the strobe pre-sex if rage coming up next Friday. Do your plants suffer from the fluff? I'm talking about that. Heinous past the mealy bug. I am going to help you. Lick this problem into shape and if you listen to next. Friday show you will find out how because it's a mealybugs special. That's all this week though so have a fantastic week with your plants. Keep your ledges. Well dusted music. You hiding this absurd was wrong to overthrow the drops and water in the creek by Josh Woodward and the music was dill pickles. Hector Banjo Orchestra. We'll tracks on license decorated Commons. See the show notes at Jay Baron. Dot Com for details third.

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"What's up everybody it's Rudy? Thanks for listening to the Scallon Pals podcast remember. You can watch or listen live every day from eleven. AM TO ONE PM eastern exclusively on the radio DOT COM APP or on radio DOT com slash. Gal this scale gist everybody. Welcome to Scalp House. Radio DOT COM the radio DOT COM APP. You're on a Monday. Apologies comedy a couple minutes late today but are voice galata gifts and things situated. He's you know his jet set and he's hanging out in Phoenix. He's on this west coast swing West as we said on Friday Scowl West Coast Gal I think is the best scale. West Coast Gal was was like Vegan. He's he's looking at you know he's he's trying to watch his diet. He's trying to be the best he can be which is very west coast of you. It's very progressive coup of you but We gotTA talk to stop coming up today. SCOU- WE'VE GOT A. I've got James Harden Fatigue. I know everybody's sort of freaking out about he's had a great seven-game stretches avenue over over forty three game. I guess maybe I'm just not as excited as some other people are and I. I want you to tell me if that's being a hater. If that's like a real thing that I just I'm just kind of not that impressed with it anymore. And maybe that's fair. That's not fair but we'll get to that a little bit later. We have a much needed. Bolthole it's coming up after last night Marco huge night. Hey the people call for it and they will get it so we gotta give the people what they want Kendrick Perkins this is going to hop on in about twelve about fifteen minutes. He's GonNa hang on. Hang around for about an hour but first and foremost gal you got to. You got to witness a hell of a game yesterday and the whole the whole time I was thinking as buddy field was going off in the fourth quarter against your Celtics. I'm like man. I wonder if he heard some of the slander. That Scott was giving him about holding alpers contract. He was like I know scowls in the building. I got a proven wrong. So Oh Celtics lose their ten game. Winning streak snapped on Marcus smart floor that rolls just off the rim but that was my first thought was buddy healed. Had that scowl motivation behind him so I was this is the game starts and first of all we highlight buddy. He'll because he obviously he's a player that everyone in New England area knows because guy and better than I thought and I was hating on him earlier talking about Mba player winding over one hundred million dollar contracts and as the game's going along apologized to buddy healed. Then I was like no way a guy wanted over one hundred million gonNA make big shots over Marcus smart breath any nail those then. I really want to buddy. He'll kick in after the. Yes on the Brady apology. Well yeah on air. You know meek you know me. I both and I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong I'm not what is wrong round the world. Admitting when they're wrong I told you why it sucks in the first half because he did suck in the first half. It's okay so he is. But he's Nice Really Nice Stupor. Poise man. Like he'd been working out with Steph curry all summer or something like that. I remember buddy healed play in little out of control of not not out of control. The quite the way to describe it as rushing. He rushed a lot we rush when he got to the NBA NBA. At first he rushed at times. Now man he looks like he's has control of the game shoot shots guys on his hip. So Great Paul Game. I can't believe that Marcus smart shot did fall but it was a great ball game. Yeah listen to winning streak had to end at some point. That's this west coast during was always going to be a tough thing for them. What did you see what foreign one or three two I think was born one right act three and to be a great trip that they go for one? But I'm expecting acting three and to this end up two and three it could. Yeah you got a tough sons team tonight. And by the way that's not a bad law like I saw some people you know Sacramento starts owned by. They're five and two since that start their cut him back in the thick of things in the playoff race in the western conference. They're sitting at five and seven their only a game and halfback of the Timber Wolves so as bad as that and they don't have some of their guys so as bad as that start was the kings has sort of turned it around. Luke Walton credit to him. So that's not that's not a bad loss off off the Celtics and I'm with you. I'm I've always kind of I've liked buddy heels game. I think I liked him more than you guys did. And I know you were kind of you know. I don't think you necessarily didn't like his game but you didn't like the way that he handled the the contract situation and I sort of agree with all right but I think he's nice man. He's Nice. That's not true. I thought I didn't like his game. I didn't think that he was an an exceptional player. But I think he's better than I thought he was for me to say like I don't like his game. It just means you know at the highest is level your best player. You can't have your best player not playing with toys. But now he proved me wrong. That's the whole thing about watching a guy live. I'm sorry would you say. Is he their best player. He's there leading score right now. Yeah that's my point about how you know being. It's one thing if you're on a rookie scale. But if you're twenty five million or above you got to have poise and we talk a lot about first option. Second option third option option and being a second option. Means that you have to be able to deliver like a first option player and to comment here box. Who is not like he deer? Fox's good but he's not like but he'll not going to score pick and roll and increase space and get his shot off or catch the ball in get the ball and catch shoot dude opportunities. So he's sort of their best all around score now. He played with much more poised than I thought. But as far as the Celtics right now I I think they're issued the whole ever since Gordon Hayward got hurt and as San Antonio game they've been underwhelming in very bad in the first quarter. They're just not the same team. They're not bad but the reason they had that winning streak is 'cause they were winning Games beating good teams with Gordon as since Gordon went out the Dallas Washington Golden State and now Sacramento Don't like the way that they're playing right now. Yeah and you know I as I said that ten game winning streak was was going to come to an end at some point. The Celtics have been impressive. I think they've been better than most people. Expect me when you go out west. It's going to be a tough run. I want to ask you this a little bit later. Scowl Al because I do believe I think the western I think both I think both playoff pictures in the east and the West are actually pretty clear right now I think you could. Almost I think you could almost guarantee Erin t fourteen of sixteen plop teams. I think it's very clear. Now you can tell me if. That's an overreaction I mean the kings have gotten back into it. I think especially in the Eastern Conference. It's almost completely clear clear. Who's going to be a playoff team? And he's not going to be a playoff team but we'll get to that in a little bit as I said Kendrick Perkins coming up in a couple of minutes here but I wanNA talk about the James Harden stuff because this is what everybody was talking about over the weekend especially Saturday night he goes off for forty nine points. But you know I I said this last week scale he you know we're talking about the MVP conversation and why it might be honest to lose again because he's going to. It's a one man show and and harden is a one man show to some degree but I said for the Anti Hardin argument for why people why would win the MVP. Is I think people have the fatigue of watching James Harden the regular season whether or not that's fair or not. I think it is a real thing like people are just kind of tired of seeing it. It's like the Russell Westbrook triple double thing but even more of a sample size right. We've seen hardened have these amazing stretches. We know how great a score he is but he did score forty and forty nine forty forty one shots like. It wasn't a terribly like that's I mean it's impressive but it's also kind of not and I look at some of his stats. He's averaging thirty nine and a half right now. Forty three points per game in his last seven looks great on paper but he has the worst three point shooting percentage of his career the second worst field goal percentage since his rookie year. He's also averaging fifteen free throw attempts per game. I I mean that's up there like Wilt Chamberlain status. That's unbelievable and you know I saw Dwayne Wade tweeted out the other. I think it was over the weekend. Efforts efforts forty nine point game go out and average forty forty. I think the only way that James Harden is going to sniff the. MVP Conversation the conversation but winning the MVP if he does average forty. Because he's going to have to do something extraordinary in my opinion to take over Janas because even though Y- honest is points per game ours impressive I think as hard and right now I think I could make an argument that John is doing is more impressive than what James Harden is doing. We'll make the argument for me. Then what do you mean by. So how are they not differently. Impressive well first and foremost obviously we know. Heart Harden on the defensive event is not even in the same stratosphere as honest is so that I mean however many points you want to give you honest as a plus bonus on his side the defensive end it is it is a complete no contact. Yes you're taking hard and every single time. I don't WanNa talk over you but but so you're not impressed with James Harden's scoring because of his defense. Well let's get a little bit more of the stats okay. He is there making the same amount of shots per game but hardens taking almost. He's taking over seven more shots a game. Then you've been Janas and I like some of those he's taking obviously more volume three pointers that you'll go percentage isn't even close you honestly shooting fifty eight percent from the field hard shooting just under forty two and the three point percentages scholar. Actually Wild Janas shooting thirty two percent from three this year which is actually a pretty great jump for him if he could stick around there even get a little bit higher like. We've we always talked about yawn. It's like if you ever figure out a three point. Jump shot or a jump shot or a consistent jump shot in general how scary that would be how he how unstoppable he would be for the less readily. We're kind of seeing that right now. Because hardens only shooting thirty three percent from the field so I think like heart heart heart does all this thing value. How hard to understand his conversation real quick so we're not impressed with harden because of Janos or we're just not impressed with hardened we not impressed with wrong because of beyond US explain to me? Why Janas has anything to do it with James Harden suing right now? Because I think those are the two guys right. Now you can throw. You could throw the in there for sure that are going to be in that like you know that main. MVP Conversation and I still look at it like you know. It has nothing to do with the broad. I wouldn't bring the brunt of this but I think a lot of people are sort of comparing hardening Janas and that's where it looks like those are the two guys that are carrying their teams right now. It seems like like at least they're they're they're they're maybe the two most one man show at their on league. I know I know he has westbrook in in Houston but he's obviously been dinged up and hardens been doing this in. His numbers have been incredible. But I still look at what you're doing and I it's more impressive to me because of the efficiency because of the percentages and because it's not just a quantity thing it's almost a quality over quantity and then you add the defensive end into it that I that I that I got to at the beginning and to me you know the numbers are always going to be really impressive. Part because he he has the volume guy. That's what he does he. He shoots a ton of free throws he shoots on threes and he maximizes whatever he plays percentages throughout the game and and and like I said he's won. MVP in the past. But I don't think it's a knock on the bra unnecessarily but if you're comparing those two guys two guys that are like the main guys on their team at least seven or so games stretch. I'm still more impregnable. Jaanus is doing than I am with harden sure but I don't understand I don't understand the argument. We're not impressed with harden because of Janas. Forget Jaanus are you forget. John Lewis Rudy. Are you impressed with hearted. Not as much as maybe I should be taught me and my and my boss might be a hater. Because we've seen this we've seen I mean listen. We haven't seen somebody average forty. I mean he's close to averaging forty. I WanNa ask you in a bit if you think. That's even possible for him to do. That would be impressive. I but you know. Oh he's he usually hovers around thirty five thirty six points a game last year. He was the leading scorer in the league. And like I just it is a little bit fatigued to me with harden and because of the lack of winning I think in the playoffs I maybe subconsciously. Hold that against him and I go all right. Here's kind of this gimmick thing again. He shooting a ton of free throws. I said he knows how to maximize his stat. She every single night and I'm not saying he's an empty stands because he's not because they're on a seven game winning streak and they've clearly team is clearly somewhat turned up turned a corner at least offensively. But I think because of what we've seen over the last couple of years where it's hard and doing all this stuff on his own almost using the free throw line he is using the free throw line. It's almost like A. It's almost like he's unfairly using that to his advantage because he he's shooting. I think almost three to five more free throws than anybody else in the League right now. So he's using that to his advantage and I'm just kind of I'm a little bit over it at this point like I. The regular season isn't hardened to me. I guess isn't GonNa get excited as it used to interesting. I can't I just can't go there like I. I can't go there because like I'm impressed with what Luca Danni assist assist doing a mashing impress bronze doing really very much so with the broad. I'm impressed with what Paul George doing. I'm impressed with what James Harden is doing. I don't know oh I don't understand how one have anything to do with another forget. I don't necessarily care about the MVP. John Hart and doesn't have to show anybody anybody that he's like he has to win the MVP and the only reason why he's doing this for the MVP. What about the seven game? Winning streak. I I don't know why we you can't just accept James Harden for being a guy who's going to be a high volume shooter now I get what you're saying about the Russell Westbrook triple double and maybe it's not as exciting. That he's averaging that average triple triple double but I do think it's still impressive. So why does I just don't understand. My one has has to do with another. What James Aren't doing now? James Harden started slow last year picked it up and had a great second half. The year went on a tear when Chris Paul was out now he's doing it or Russell. WESTBROOK taken stays in their winning games. So I'm not going to hold. I'm going to hold like stars to high standards. I'M NOT GONNA hold stars to these comparible standards to other stars. At least not right now. Maybe if we're into the year we're going to have to make a decision on who you would vote for. MVP and it's not a knock on harden if I decided to vote for Janas but in in like a simple box like what hardens doing right now is impressive. It's hard to do that in the NBA. Yeah and I think. He's sort of carved out this niche of like. He knows he knows how to exploit every area of the court. The three point on the free. Throw line the referees like he he is he manipulates. I think the game and I use that in a in a in a not in a negative way I think he does sort of manipulate almost like he's almost almost a cheat code out there like right the way his game is like it is a little bit of a Cheat Code and when you run up a couple of guys you got up you brought up Lebron and you're saying okay. Well I'm the press of the Bronx impressive Luca dodgers. I'm impressed for example. I'm impressed Luca dodgers because he's doing this in his second year in the NBA. That's why I think it's a little bit more impressive. I'm impressed with with Braun. Because he's leading the league in assists and he's coming off season. That wasn't that impressive last year where everyone was sort of doubting him coming into the year whereas hardened it's like all right. It's kind of the same old harden debates. It's ramped up a little little bit but this is the hardest that we've known and seen for a while and it's also the hard in that I feel like has been a disappointment in the playoffs. So I I maybe unfairly or not. I'm just not going to give him. Maybe the credit he might deserve until I see it in like in May and June. We'll good for you. I can't go there. I can't so what you're you're telling me. Look for five straight years. You would not be impressed with what Luke is doing but if rj Barrett did what what hardens doing right now exactly the sane. And they're losing. Let's say he was doing it. And the Knicks. Losing you would be press with Jay Baron. I'm not holding guys. These impossible standards. I'm sorry yeah. But that's you're you're talking about a rookie guy in his second year versus hard and who's already won. MVP like there are levels of his gallic. I the expectation is that this is James Harden is. I'm I'm not saying it's fair to do while realistically I'd like him to not have have random flameouts in the playoffs. And like you know. Shoot Oprah Twenty in other words that great. Either you're right and that's why I'M NOT GONNA lose my mind over. This forty set forty-three bridge you know. He's averaging forty three of his last seven games. That's why I'M NOT GONNA lose my mind over it why I mean the guys. He's killing tear like I don't understand when you say are you let me understand. Are you losing in your mind or anything going on right now like yeah. Why don't you it's for sure Lebron Advocacy Group Lebron leading the League in assists? Yeah so all right. I mean like EA- each individual player doing it staying trae young as efficient or inefficient as he is impressive by all these guys like. I'm impressed by what Brad beal is doing right. Now you have definitely because Brad beal was basically carrying a team. I'm that I think he is really the main guy on other terrible defensively but offensively. He's averaging over thirty a game and it's kind of. He's kind of putting the team on his back in a way and I don't think most people expect him to win a ton of games. But yeah impressive Brad. Beal is doing but do you understand like I'm just saying like there are expectations that we have of harden fairly or unfairly that some of those other guys. You just named. Don't don't necessarily have those expectations. Nations like dodgers and trae young and RJ Barrett. Like those guys don't nearly have so so the numbers that hardens putting up like. We've seen this before. So that's all I'm saying you have no fatigue over harden. Pardon you have no you. Don't you don't kind of you know I'm not saying I'm a little it's a little bit. I dismissed it a little bit and that may again. It might not be fair. But that's just how I feel scale. If they weren't winning I would have fatigue. But they're winning I would I would be doing this an entire season. I watched some live of the day guys ridiculous but he's awesome. He kept when this and they and they lost. I T go for that. But if you're a coaching going in your played Houston. Are you fatigued. James the school or forty points a game and the one seventy seven in a row. I'm not fatigued by that. So I don't I'm not fatigued by that I get fatigued with empty stats. I was fatigued with Devon Booker. Banged fifty going for sixty when they're down by thirty. I don't care about that. But if if they were losing I would apetit but they're winning and he's clearly impacting winning right now I I agree I think he is. One hundred percent impacting winning. I just I deal. Let's let's take a quick break here because we're gonNA bring Kendrick Perkins. I want to get him out on this if he agrees with you or me. I'm not. I'm really not trying to be a hater scholars. Just how I feel like. I'm just sitting here going okay. Yeah he's averaging averaging almost forty a game and I want to ask you and if you think it's realistic for him to average forty for entire season that would be pretty damn impressive. I will say that because I think I believe his career high thirty six points. I'm really not trying to be a hater but that's just kinda how I feel when I see the stats. I kind of go all right. That's hard I mean I'm just GonNa Kinda there's nothing he can do about it right now. Obviously this is the regular season. But I'm just GONNA I'M GONNA be a little bit more impressive. I see this done in May and June scale and bells the PODCAST. I want to ask you this but we're still waiting on Kendrick Perkins. This is one of the things I had on my list because I'm looking at the NBA especially in the Eastern Conference. I mean you've got Boston. MIAMI MILWAUKEE TORONTO PHILLY INDIANA ORLANDO. That's your top seven. I could almost lock those seven teams in. Is that a fair assumption. Like I think I though seven are all I know we're on the dozen or so games in here and you've got Charlotte. which is the eighth exceed? Surprising eighth seed sitting at six and seven just ahead of the Brooklyn Nets. I do anticipate the Brooklyn sneaking into that spot but I think you could almost pencil and seven of the eight teams right now. All in you know in late era mega mid to late November. Seven of the eight teams already locked playoff teams in eastern conference in my overreact No Orlando's better. So Oh yeah I think you said fourteen of the sixteen. I do agree with you in the east but I'm really more curious about what you feel like penciled in seven teams in the West Star so I'll go through them right now so the The Lakers are at one. There are lock obviously rockets to Nuggets Jazz. Then you get an interesting. It's interesting doing in the bottom. Four here sons clippers. Mavs T.. Wolves Okay my argument would be and the reason that I only have one kind of up in the air spot left in the western conference. I think I have about seven. Guarantees in both conferences is. Because I believe I believe between the Sons Mavericks and T. Wolves I think two of those three are basically locks to make the playoffs offs. Like I don't see how that's say. That's not what you said that's a lie see. Don't do that to me to rudy. You can't say I'M GONNA pick pick three teams and they give them to locks. You gotTa tell me who the lock. Who are the seven locks in the West? I don't I make sure I would. I would honestly go and I would say I don't see anyone the only team that I can see jumping in and I know we talked about to start the show that kings about a resurgent. They're five and two in their last seven after no one five star. They're only a game and a half out of that eight spot. which is the timber wolves right now? But I don't know if I believe that sustainable. I don't know if the Kings are. I was as high. I think on the Kings as anybody. I still didn't have them as a playoff team this year. They might thought they would push for a playoff spot but wouldn't be in the only other team that I think is kind of sniff. That area is the trailblazers mellow thing. Works out the blazer. Five and eight right now. They're two games back and they're kind of putting a lot of ships in that mellow basket. So I actually think in the West. I wouldn't be surprised at all. Eight of those teams made the playoffs. I wouldn't be surprised at. Aw So if I had to pick no no no no no no no no no I wanNA know the seven locks in the West I. I'll do the fingers ready. I SAID LAKERS HOUSTON DENVER. Jazz clippers clippers. That's five right one to who the lock outside outside of that. I think the one that is the most vulnerable between the Sons Mavericks and T.. Wolves I want a lot. No no no no no you said I got seven locks locks in the West. I got seven locks in the mess. Put the mavs in there with the mavs in all right. There's there's what six I've got six six. Are you have one more block. I feel better about being accent. I do about Minnesota. I do I really do so but I still feel really good about Minnesota. I still really do. I honestly I I feel better about Minnesota making the playoffs and I do the blazers right now. Is that ridiculous. I don't think so. I think I think if you were to go I I I think the boy still total question. Mark the the one team. We're leaving out to in the West. Gal is the spurs and three start but they have been kind of a disaster since then. They're two and eight since that three star Bert. They've lost five straight. It's their first five game losing being streak. Actually I shouldn't say that since nineteen ninety seven this is only their second five game losing streak so basically that's only happened once in the. Tim Duncan Air. And it's happened once after the. Tim Duncan era. I'm where I I. I think I'm ready to write them off. I said before the season. I didn't think they were going to be a playoff team. I got mocked and ridiculed by people here and after that three and I'm going Oh crap here we go i. I doubt the Spurs and they're going to sneak in and be seven eight C. and I'm GonNa look like an idiot again because I called her demise Julie. I'm almost ready to say. I don't think they have the horses to do it scale. I think they're going to be looking to trade lamarcus Aldridge. I think they're going to be looking at trade. Tomorrow to Rosen and I know pop isn't one of those blow it up guys and look for the future but I do think that's going to do this year because I just don't think this team I don't think pop looks at this team and goes it's remote good enough. Maybe they can sneak into the playoffs. If those two guys get hot but I don't think pop likes what he sees and he has a chance of maybe better as team for the next year. It's not a full rebuild. But it is a little bit of a me rebuild on the fly here for the first time in twenty two years with the Spurs. I'm ready to stay there. Not a playoff team. I just don't see it. Who who is your lock your severance? Let's lock Phoenix or Minnesota. I I I'm GONNA go man. It's really hard I'm GONNA go with Phoenix. I'm I'M GONNA GO WITH PHOENIX OVER MINNESOTA BUT CLOSE I. I think they're a little bit more locked in Minnesota right now we have Kendrick Perkins. Let's bring him into this conversation. First and foremost perk. What's going on? Thanks for hopping on today. How was your weekend through cowboy movie? You got your boy Dak look good your boy Dak look real good a lot of people think he should be the MVP. Are you on the by the way I know. We don't WanNA deviate too much sports but you are a big cowboy's fan. We know you watch all the games or tweeting about it. Are you Adak. Mvp You guys see that thing going around. Everybody Thinks Dak P. candidate are you on that train. I'm only tribe because him the beet. Alamar Jack to man lethargic and outside Meyer right now so Melissa thank plant some beautiful football right now. Man We can get some Zeke will be all right that's a whole nother story. List Your L.. Landau magic gotTa Win. The way they play real good fast listened to you laugh. I listened to yesterday males who compare. Yesterday I'm working. I'm working to get you by my side for us to do a game in the works. My man is in the works works. That was a good game yesterday. That king's daughter than I thought he was he. I taint him when he was crying. About one hundred million dollars but to get those two buckets on Marcus. SMART late in the game. That's not easy to do now. He got some tough shots. Late in the game. The go-to Guy. He looked good. I was hating to both where I brought this up. SCALL- star of the show. Because because you know it was like the contract situation both you guys kind of like hey man like ninety millions a lot of money take the ninety million up getting a little bit more and he to his credit. He hasn't been complacent he's been awesome. And that Kings ex-team perk that started off Owen. Five five and two. Since then they're kinda sniffing that PLOP raise. We were talking before you popped out. I don't know how much you heard of it. I think you can guarantee I I. I think Based maybe I word it wrong. It's all worth it this way. I think there are really only two open spots in the playoffs of the sixteen playoff teams this year. I think they're really only to open spots between the East and the Western Conference because I think in the eastern conference per it basically goes all the way one through seven I think even going to Orlando. I think a Landau is a playoff team. And I think it's is GonNa ultimately think the nets are going to get that eight spot but I still think that eight spot is up for grabs whereas in the West. I look at Lakers rockets. Nuggets jazz clippers. All five of those locks. I think the mavs avs are going to be a playoff team. And then it's between the sons and the timberwolves. I think both those teams are going to be close to the end. I think it's going to be hard for a team. Like the Blazers team like the Kings to really catch up to those teams. I'm I'm already counting out the spurs do you think. That's fair perk. Do you think that the playoff race is already kind of like those sixteen almost kind of locked in. Yeah agree with you. Ballistic do not come on out the okay seat thunder. They're not there by choice. Then I play they plant some good basketball matter of fact they just got a big time win over the weekend against Philadelphia to the only two guys back from being. You know five hundred you so you know. Hey don't count those guys out but not as fat Orlando Lando Magic. Get near man but the hawks are not getting in. That's a disappointment to me. I watched them play last night. Not just especially with out there very how Cam Reddish and I watched last night. He's just too cool for me like I can't I don't know no no I okay. been on this. He's he's just too cool his passion for the game. I I can't do I cannot do. I saw your tweet Perky Rickie. And he was a go. He was a minus forty five in that clippers game. How when's minus forty five and a stat line? I mean it was it was sorta ugly and he's shooting eighteen percent from three. It's I don't think I'm not going to write off camera. She Epa clearly like he's got a lot of developing do and. That was my issue with the hawks coming in as I just think. They're relying on so many so many young players. Obviously you mentioned the college injury but reddish isn't ready for some primetime minutes yet. People had the nerve to like compare him to T- Matt but like look I don't care about it. Assumed percentages right light as a rookie in May have to Mrs Persia. We only like ten fifteen games in or whatever the case may be but I'm watching his passion. I'm watching the sea. Like is he going to the game like some some some type of swag something man like. I don't care if you get a bucket but in three minutes quote you gotTa give me some still something something you gotta show me that you're out there and it was just like no no I can't roll with it. I cannot sit up here and go scales pales in bed with Intel. She worked worth the routing scam about health. And I got a guy putting. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. Listening with the Spurs Bursa Out L.. It's been pretty bad lately. Too late to take some ails. I've got paying for so lock in the whizz bandages. Getting in there really good man. I'm telling with bangs Rubio Booker. I like a O'Brien oh great. Yeah Oh yes. He's been balling Sharon with those four guys. I think the way that they played the way they compete. I talked to bronners on Earth Day when he came back for things and he told me they Peru I agree I got him tonight this diving into their stats a little bit. They had the markings of a really good team. They have space have guys play hard hit. There's low turnover debit booker's making plays off the ball. So I I'm with you. Phoenix unless booker goes out Devon Booker could get hurt. That's the work on but we missed the two pieces that we've we've missed the two key guys. I've been bugged frank and Sarah if they got from of I think think soda right Yemen Minnesota. You're right you're right real. Yeah they've been bugged. Yeah I agree with you scowl. Al Really quick like because you didn't really answer this question. Do you like how many locks you have in the western conference. 'cause I'm with I I lean towards the sons. Do you think the mavs is not. Wolves is still kind of on the outside looking in. No no my my locks are Lakers. HOUSTON DENVER UTAH. PHOENIX CLIPPERS DALLAS. Those are my locks because okay I look at Minnesota Oklahoma City Sacramento Portland by the way Portland has played eight. Wrote Games Games. Only five home games. And I'm going to ever write off San Antonio out that they can make trae perk trade trade the market aldridge in a weird way. Get better. No we're wait. Get better for for for like non player like some team be romance into science by the name the work all they can get to average players all of a sudden. It'd be better. That's just how they work so I'm not writing them up. NOPE NOPE I'll think nobody's by intake. Marcus Aldridge after. They just gave him a contract extension. I'm not rolling. Would that will scale would you would you take him. Because he's saying okay. Yeah but some lets you a scam. They do have some other dump that would fall it got to do that are they. Like are they feel whiteside teams do that. An important issue to me is injury. Now do we. We know it is coming back. We had a genius to know and she said some time around February. There's like good he. He's real good but the thing. Is this like that injury it takes a while. Even you know come back. And we're talking about a guy that seven one to seventy I five to eighty so even when he comes back from that interest gonna take a whole nother month to get back into ref off to even feel comfortable again Eh. We asked for James Harden. Yeah yeah all right so you want me to. I'll lay the case out here. Okay and maybe I'm being a hater and listen I. It's okay you can tell me. I'm being a hater later. James Harden's credible and incredible tear. He's averaging forty three over his last seven. Seven wins for the rockets. We got dwayne Wade wondering if you could average forty for an entire season. He's averaged in nineteen thirty nine and a half right now. The numbers are God. He but he scores forty nine on Saturday night on forty one shots like he's always been sort of this volume shooter and he he uses the rafts to his advantage uses the three point line and the Knox facts. Like I'm not trying to knock him. And scalping maybe I'm being a hater I think scalping I'm doing this but I just have a little bit of James Harden Fatigue Perk. I kinda like I've seen this all the Gaudy scoring. I've seen the numbers that he puts up he's won. MVP in the past the average thirty six game last year. And and maybe it's unfair. But like I kind of don't care about that stuff until I see it come may June whereas like I'm more impressed with a trait with trae young. I'm more impressed with the dodgers because it sort of newer and I'm more impressed with the honest because he's he's added a three point shot to his game and Janas already a better defensive player and yours is only like an assist per game behind hard right now and he's killing him obviously in the rebounding statistics. So I maybe I'm being a little bit of a hater on a perk. But tell me. Do you have hardened fatigue or just being hater no I. I definitely have Horton fatigue but I had to give him his process. The daylight you know. He's averaging close afford it. Obviously that's not ease is in today's league but I'm with you Cerruti like I'm like I'm tired of like show me some nails man like they have now now like literally like he took twenty dribbles Bro to get a shot off like everybody was just standing around watching and then like I said just before the guys average of forty right. He's going on a tear. You see no camaraderie whatsoever from the Houston Rockets. Like nobody's nobody's jumping up. Nobody is like you know Half five in helmet. Nothing people are just watching him. Just play basketball individual by `self just shoot three after three after three and obviously against the clippers the other night they got a big time win but it almost caused him because the clippers this came back but would have helped. PG I can't see the rockets beat new but it's not fun to watch. At least you look at you on this and this is why I cannot put him in the conversation with Jaanus Lebron and eager Luca Danni village at point is because for the simple fact did give meet more like. I'm not staying scoring and dribbling. Bow of twenty one seconds out of the twenty four seconds dollarshaveclub. I don't know they're giving me rebounds they give me to the sears. That's at charges. They give me block shots. They give me officer rebounds they give Me Everything Gills guilt. Show me why they have great players and while they should be an MVP. Jane Score is eight point right now the best go navy in MBA BA. Yes but on top of that. E- e- yeah. We got your back but on top of that. He's the Best Gordon the NBA. But he's not I just can't put him up the MVP conversation. I'm sorry like important. Work was on this scale. How long you'd be quiet? Real quick forty four points of the night on forty one size that is horrible and then you got got like PG who had like thirty seven on like seventeen or fifteen seventeen sixteen shots like it's just apples and oranges. Like I'm so tired of man. I'm tired of that. Have the over now. This is scallon POW POW Sheila. Ah I knew Hedberg you. You were impressed. You were impressed. Not You're saying you're not impressed aren't per. Are you impressed by the forty and win seven in a row. No I'm not all right. Oh so whatever you at what have you is shooting. You know like seventeen times neighbor losing and they were high five hundred chest bumping and all that garbage. Would you be impressed or are we did we just off James he party we off James Harden like I'm so open decide. We know he could do this. We we know like I need to see some notes. I I'm not feeling I and guess what which may see what you WanNa see from him and Mesa Rodeo not the only people that feel this way why note. Oh what's his games and look at look at the most is from. Pj Tug now be like okay. Let me stand in the corner. Let Me Watch take eighty gerbils at the top of the key okay. Meanwhile back and play some defense is not everybody. I think they even tired of it like nobody wants to play. Oh my God that is just horrible. Basketball is horrible this this is why. You're my guy perk. I Knew I count on you to have my back here because scalise it and you're giving me crap and I'm really not to be a hater. I'm really not but let's schedule on. Hold on hold on just because you just because you like. It doesn't mean you can't be like can't we look at it. I never liked that garbage basketball. I never liked it. I don't like an ever but you gotta be oppressed is impressive part. Let's go through your day in in your best day. It'd be hard if you can't even imagine ticket. fortyish Johnson eighty he dribbles onto possession. Perk perk I asked Galvez. I asked him out this forty nine forty one shots doc. Let's you score. You know Prime Celtics it docks like hey you can go out and take forty shots scoring fifty seventy for sure but I really look list listed. I'm saying you know all the time. Please right behind said Maxwell field goal percentage for season. Nine okay. I can't see you're not shooter and then I get I get it on your scale like I'm so sick of James using a real like it's just even Radan spares. Listen it was crazy. I know know know what I'm GONNA say. Wash the gate and like half. The seats are empty. Greatest Gloria I've ever seen it you. Yes no no one cares. 'cause they notice they like okay. Cool we know. James is GonNa Score Party. We don't want we don't care we you ready to see what he's going to do in the postseason you know what. Let's go to the schedule here. Really quick too because like that. Seven game winning streak and his seven-game stretch. I mean all right go ahead PERC. was you know it was bad when they get to the play. Offs is going to be horrible for the role. Oh close because nobody's GonNa have confidence but James I'm and then they go be accident. I say please I took two catches shooter tonight and twice. He hit the side of the bag. Boy You know why because he has no rhythm nobody wanted to catch the ball. With like three seconds left on sackcloth and got a five some the type three from the corner with a hand in your face when you haven't talked about the last twenty five possess this and and my thing is like this is the same we've just seen this version of hard and so many times and yeah like it's impressive seventy. I'm not. I should be impressed but like I've seen a yawn step. Is this game up. I've seen a TRAE. Young step is game. I've even seen Lebron leading the league in assists that he's taking his game to level I I this is the same James Harden we watch for like five years years now and by the way the here I mean I'm not GonNa sit here and say was again. It was against a bunch of world leaders. They beat the grizzlies. Listen we talked. We like Josh Miranda. It's still a grizzly the team in transition. That isn't isn't winning a ton of games right now. A terrible warrior team a terrible terrible bowls team a Pelican terrible defensively. A clipper team without without Kawhi Qui- Leonard and then the patient timber wolves to reasonably good win so the competition hasn't been stellar either. And as I said we have just seen. This is the hardest. I've seen for the last five years. I Know James Harden can do this I. I'm not seeing him. Take his game to a whole `nother level the way some other guys I think around the League are what would you want to do what what are you I mean. What do you think he's GonNa do well? The problem is the is. The rockets offense writes as the Dantonio thing. It's ice so ball. It's let's get. Let's switch a bad offender onto harden and let them go to work and we've seen that but like I brought this up in perk. I'm sure you think the same way you you know. I still am skeptical of whether or not that. Winds come May June and we're not going to be able to see if it works until May and June so now there's really no. There's no answer to this question for me. There's just not a ton he could do in the regular season to change my view of him right now. I think he's a great regular season play. I've already known he's a great regular season. I don't have any questions about him in the regular season. He's doing what I expect. Expect him to do agree. I agree and look speaking of that. Linnet bringing up. I really think the clippers might be in trouble. Makers I really think is some sears. Going on over the Work Hawaii Linda that they're not saying I really think that he's hurt. Man I'm telling you I'm telling you I think he's really hurt is going on over there with him. He's hurt. I'm telling you. Why do you think that? Because he said our last game and it wasn't even a back to back like some mysteriously going some this going on over there man. I'm telling you are sitting him as many games as they can anytime. His knee is sore. They're gonNA stood him. They're GONNA if you sitting out marquee matchups on non back to back games. Then I agree with you perk but if he just sitting out game that they think they can win. Yeah I'm telling you is more than what we think men from. What I heard is that he could wake up at any? Given time time his core would be small like is more than what I'm telling you just more than what people know. Man I'm telling is served over the about him so the load management thing like you're you're saying that it's more justified now than right because there there is a serious problem. You believe there is a serious problem is for this injury for a legacy. It's not just low management for this is like he has. He has a real injured. Going on I'm telling interesting. Yeah I mean that's I it would be ashamed to because of the way that Paul George is playing route. We're really probably not going to see them. Have a string of games together until playoff time so they might be a question mark until really. Oh late April early may be they will be and then they mess around and keep with their low management and then slipped down and have to go go see Utah I. Yeah that's gotta be careful with their low management stuff. Max this really get serious uh-huh bells the podcast the guy who's not in the MVP conversation but might be in the most improved player. Conversation is my Guy Marquel Markelle Foltz and I think after last night's performance and he was awesome. He's been inserted in the starting lineup. I gotta give the people what they want now. The people want to full. So I'M GONNA give it to him here after Impressive Performance Remarkable Marco folks who would go on if we have a time where we've got some music but I'm GonNa get this thing started last night Markelle Foltz career-high nineteen points not only nineteen points but a Fisher from the field field for ten two of three from three as well. He hasn't been shooting great from three the last night he was given three and the important part is unlike. Ben Simmons Turn Away Sixers fans. He is actually taking these threes. He's not afraid of the moment. Even though the shot looks Kinda funky he's taken threes. You shouldn't stop with competencies getting to the rim and defensively he's been great as well Cross real quick route. Quick what what do you think happened in Philadelphia. Did you think he got bullied by the media. No genuinely think that he had an injury and he got Something got into his head and he wasn't able to sort of figure it out there and I think a lot of times. A change of scenery is something that guys need and I think he I don't I don't think these people now that retroactive. You're like oh the sixers was. I can't believe they gave away Markelle folks for a second round pick. The sixers had to trademark. It was never gonNA work in Philly in the same way that happens other guys leave a change of scenery rejuvenate. Your career are you. Don't see the same media members you don't see the same people criticizing you. You just need a fresh you. You think it's because the Jason Tatum trade like you think that. Like every he every day he had to live up to that and people were like. You're never going to be this guy and it's like I can't believe that we did that. Then you have the Colangelo thing with twitter quitter and everything like all that stuff comes into play affected him. Maybe a little bit of blame pie here like maybe five to ten percent. But I don't think that's at the origin of the issue of marketplace. I think the origin of the issue of markup bolts was like he had an injury and then a mental blockage like he was both physically and mentally injured. And I don't I think I don't think gee maybe the pressure added to it but I don't think that's the reason that it was there in the first place. I clearly something was wrong clearly. Something went wrong in Philadelphia with his body and his mind and I. I don't think he's all the way back mentally. But I don't think that was the main issue now it certainly exacerbated it and got a time here now and I still have many things to get to the polls but the origin story. I don't believe that was the reason. Why do you think it added to it? Maybe the trade. But I don't think it was the origin of the reason why he was an issue. But I'll get because he's and I don't want to hear I don't WanNa hear the Buzzer. 'cause I I still got I still have plenty of time left here. Don't get buzzer out of my face. He's not GonNa win the award scale. He's I think he's like plus seven hundred for most improved player. But I think it'd be hard to find find another guy year-over-year who has been more improved than Markelle full. Its faults went from a non factor. Guy Who you cringe when he had the ball you cringe when he shot to. He's now starting starting for a team that we all think is going to be a playoff team. That's playing well. He's getting his shot. He's one of the best players finishing at the rim. His tenacity defensively is great. I don't know if you saw scout last tonight. The magic had an eighteen point lead end up being I was down to three and he ended up getting a steel dunk late net game to completely seal. He was a game changer. He's been a game changer. For this magic team in a way I thought a lot of people didn't think he was going to be so he deserves all the props you can get the jump. Shot is still look funky Scout. I'm not sure if it will ever. I'm not sure it will ever the next like let's be honest but I do know that I can. I can say with a lot of certainty right now. He is a good NBA player. And I don't think we were GONNA. I didn't think we knew that. And we're saying that about him. I'm a year ago. The question about Foltz right now is what is his steal. His stealing is stealing isn't what it was when he was drafted out of Washington. When he thought he was? You know the number one overall pick potential multi all all star. I don't know if he's going to be that guy but I do know that he is going to be a serviceable. NBA Player for years to come. Because I do think he finishes while around the Rim and he plays hard on both ends of the court and and I'm just again. I'm just happy for him. I don't know if he's going to be an all star but he's a very valuable basically he's a valuable start on a team that we think is going to be a playoff team. Here in the out in the Orlando Magic antics. Shoutout to mark up all the bowls and I don't even need the timer I'm done so any dos from your end scall-. I'm glad that we're talking about him now because at least he's a starter. He deserves. Well maybe he's not a top thirty point guard in the NBA. Okay so we'll give him the benefit of the doubt might get there. I was high coming out of Washington. You know I watch his games. Celtics getting probably get to number one pick bolt but things happen yeah lesson. They obviously made the trade. There was the right trade for them and who knows what would happen if he went to Boston. Maybe none of this ever happens but he needed to get out billy so again. That's another additional. Listen to false pulse appreciate everyone who's between me. Wanted to hear it. Well I don't want I don't want to Overdo it but I do feel like it was necessary last night after a career high in points and a game changing play on both ends of the of course. Thanks for listening to the scale and PELS podcast watcher. Listen to scale and pals weekdays from eleven to one. PM Eastern. I'll know radio dot cold digital that work.

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NutriMedical Report Show Wednesday Nov 13th 2019  Hour Three  Jerry Barrett, PowerofProphecy.com, Demon-Rat Russia Hatred, Trump Impeachment Scam, Globalist GOP,

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NutriMedical Report Show Wednesday Nov 13th 2019 Hour Three Jerry Barrett, PowerofProphecy.com, Demon-Rat Russia Hatred, Trump Impeachment Scam, Globalist GOP,

"Dr Bill Eagles show presented by NEUTRA MEDICAL DOT com. Call Live Eight one eight two eight one eight six four zero one back Jay Baron here from our of dress again. POWER OF DOT COM PROXY DOT COM. Now Jerry you're one of the Amazing using broadcasters over there you actually replaced texts Mars and a text by the way is working on a book and hope to have him on the show and also video interviews out of my the meal Lashing out of New York City has a capacity now to do multi site broadcasting with up to five guests all over the world at the same time in high definition Mossel well. are expanding the AI for people to get search ability to find the content of shows. Because it's very unique. I believe I'm not being boasting on this when I say I believe I go farther farther faster and more comprehensive connecting all the dots of what's going on in our world health issues geopolitical spiritual anybody else in human history and and I want people to understand that I respect people like you in your ministry because you'll cover things that the regular typical church doesn't the regular church is lost in space. Aren't they write off. Marcus runs everywhere. Well it's kind of spiritual prostitutes prostitutes and I wanNA talk about what's going on with the right now for example the demon wraps I like to change names that I think word pictures kind of tell you in fact a lot of time you can get through the people more with humor than came with a common and decent argument. I'm looking at the debate today. Bolt investigations of whether or not trump committed a crime which required by federal law to actually investigate other countries. When you give them their money you gotta make sure? They're not corrupt. And when I said this Guy Taylor hair and so like. I can't trying to pretend that they actually know from third or fourth hand. They prison committed a crime. And in fact this is required by law. And there's no quick bravo and we gave them javelin missiles and actually legal defense for the people in in Ukraine and try to de criminalize their country which is one of the most countries in the world In fact the state State Department United States and the previous guy par Shaneco who they call him the chocolate king he was actually the king not only of illegal prostitution but also drug cartels and he came in there with the help of the Soros Foundation is CIA and our State Department and finally they got a comedian actor in there This news editor and and he actually said there's no quid pro quo. In fact he got everything wanted from America. Lots of support for legal and Javelin missiles to hit the Russian tanks to come across the border because the Russians want retake eastern Ukraine where most of the people realize the advanced nuclear weapons that Russia had were made in firstly the nuclear material for Dante. Eddie bucking are cosmodrome Kazakhstan the most radioactive place on earth but people are dying radiation it only advanced missile technology were built in eastern Ukraine which hundred years ago was part of the Soviet Empire? In fact two hundred years ago was a capital of the former soup. You know Russia but the fact is that what we have going on right now is Putin wants rigs are Soviet Union. He's the greatest crime in history that the union disappeared and went away. Hey He's got nuclear mechanism missiles our throat right now enlarge Island and point in Iran and North Korea. These are not homemade. Made missiles either Russians from US I have all the Intel and the tech specs and even the satellite photos. We're trying to get knucklehead trump because trump does good things but he's a idiot in some areas and this is one of the areas where is walking us over the cliff now. I want trump to listen because he's going to listen one way or the other and I'm I'm very close to actually getting a direct contact trump. Because I can fix healthcare to cost a fraction because the Democrats if they actually had a vote right now enough Americans have listened to the stupid does me the other so anti-trump and watch these hearings and they're so stupid. The average American now that enough would vote that we'd probably lose the election to demon rats would destroy destroyed country and cause a civil war and not by the way includes Christians. It would support the ebon ramps at WanNa. Do we have to search master by infanticide after. They're they're boring. You know the Brock Obama support it and Illinois trying to get legislation. Kill child up to three years. Wages are disabled. Okay right now I wanNA tell you my fellow Americans. I'm disgusted with you. Need to get a clue and you also need to get hurt. RPI It'd be. I don't care what color you are. I don't care if you're black way yellow. I don't care where you came from. I love all Americans and I want them to smarten up and realize with the Democrats are doing they wanNA destroy destroy a country dilute it. I don't care where people come from for the nations. They don't care if they come from Central America or the Middle East or wherever this one dilute the country down. They want power. In fact it's like in In countries like in Venezuela or or Iran. They'll tell you leaders you can vote for your vote but they're gonNA select leaders. Who talked about this? Last hour was low ponti so We got a lot to talk about. I believe we are seconds to midnight. We have nuclear weapons at our throat. We're on the verge of the Matrix next October. First we're going to have the national world ideas actually law. You can't fly or do anything biometric. Id we have the cell L. phone companies saying was in two to five years in two to five years ago they're going to be able to hack into consciousness like the minority report will know the intentions of your heart. We have the the pope and people meeting last year with dirty election year. Two Thousand Sixteen Leading saying that they need to move to where the green agenda and poke supports this population reduction which is very anti Christian and supports the world government. which is completely masonic and and if you WANNA call drink ripped Elliott? You have to understand the hat on top of the head is a fish hat with the most open. Most of the fish towards the sky we include the F. Fibia Strip billions of the ancient masters of droids that ran our world from the Alpha Dakotas. The belt of Orion People's whole what is that I said. Well you understand that evil on earth is champs dimensional extra planetary. It's all in the Bible. You know Jesus went across the gymnastics to castle the demons humans. You know we have to understand exactly what you did and people say. They want to accept the whole Bible deal except the dog. Possession might be happening in our day in fact even inside the Catholic Church more possessions and more exercises occurring now at a time in history. Do you know that there's more possessions. The more actresses occurring today in Twenty First Century twenty century. Twenty one thousand nine hundred any other time in history while ooh so. I gave you a panoply of topics when he wanNA cover and we got the election coming up next year. We've got a new world order. We've got them trying to removed us. President is trying to negotiate as Russia and China. We it just gets more and more insane. Doesn't it the The Democratic candidates seem to have gone a whoring and are trying to give away a horrid you meet horrid humility Texan. I could dig on a Horn Horn. They were in their horn was the devils. What they're doing they're they're trying to give away everything and the kitchen sink Warrants out there with this well tax Bill Gates to get his attention She's letting the bill monstrum monstrum Bill Gates support scope reflects sunlight out into space and even Bill Gates is kind of like. Oh you WANNA take the listen if the end the producers and they said I'm not talking about protecting being wealthy but we don't really have true would call capitalism. We have corporatism global control. We'll capitalism means a small guy like your mayor guy in the garage invent something and get the Hamiltonian finances we can expand to medium large business. That's real capitalist. What we have is capitalism? We have a former corporatism where corporate transnational corporations and globally and secret orders run everything the media corporations government control all and they have the sham of elected officials when reading in fact intelligence is like burned booth and Brennan can threaten the presidency. We have a half a dozen ways of getting yet. You still don't think you're going to get away with this trump and drums. They are naive enough to think. Well I can. I'm still the president Right you have the bully pulpit but these guys have got jobs on on. CNN MSNBC threatening president because he intel agencies think they're already the the fourth arm of government is not elected and they're L. demonic everyone of the Intel agencies on the planet from Jerry in Russia to Brazilian security police the Canadian security intelligence the CIA NSA. They're all part of what's called Project Kamanga and they're all a call. Tick everyone has to know this. That all of rental agencies are is an interesting the one of the people say. Oh no Dr Dig a mine is and I said if you're a level lower level. FBI or CIA. You just a little minion. You get a higher levels you better be in a secret order. You're not going to advance. You won't get to the higher order unless you are click. Exactly Yep Related this on my show last week or so that politics vixen America resembles a lot like this. I bought Sue Japan. The corporate heads tell the government what they want them to do. And that's exactly what's going on in America. Well it's hot as public. That's why we lost sixty thousand factories and we've stripped after nation in over in China and other nations that's why we're losing even our robots building stuff for losing the robots in China. That's why we have deals where the World Trade Organization is transferred to China. So they're actually stealing our technology and have You know By half a million Chinese US US students studying here stripping our business and our technology heading back to China. And how Zeke and write a document twenty twenty five where he wants to control the manufacture consumable goods and by twenty twenty five including the beast which is written in the Bible that then they create an image of the beast. The Image of the beasts a supercomputer controls everything and we're close men were closed in fact. I had visited supernatural October tests. Ninety three and nine months to the day I I walked with the same places. Angel brought me nine months earlier in October tenth on July tenth. Nineteen Ninety four people. Say How do you know all this stuff is said. God had his hand on my shoulder. So you know what I'm GonNa take this fury nervy very brave person and I'm gonNA shake ugly human carcass will make them Asana game and I'm GonNa Tournament places that and I'm putting all by the way. My experiences and special videos are going to be my private video channel. You're not going to public work. But I have had marks brains brings you can shake a stick at. It would be a book being encyclopedia. And I'm gonNA minute videos on convert later to book but it's going to be videos and they'll be video links off the book so you can watch video clips but what people need to understand here. We're at the end is the end of human history. This is not like a rehearsal. This is the big show. Isn't it. Yeah it is here but trump is just the figurehead At least in my my opinion Congress figurehead and They're all controlled by the global elites. Nothing nothing's changed since two Back in early nineteen hundreds when We've got the Fed we got the irs then manifested even further in FDR great. Deal the new deal and then the ultimate coup nineteen sixty three. We're coming up on the anniversary of that next week where they actually knocked off a president and stuck in on Communist and that'll be J yeah LBJ by the way was in the house Planning his death along with the Israelis want a nuclear materials else along with mobsters along with the Soviets that actually made sure they knocked off him because he was going to interfere with the new world order and he was the main thing you you did me. No this was interfering with powers of the division. Sit Up by a previous presidents called the sad or special activities division of the CIA day after World War Two and sad started to get too much power so trump if so so Jackie tied to to who took call their power. Well George Bush Junior passenger presidential directive fifty one before he left office for Barack Obama and gave him more authority which is a sad state of Saudi Arabia and Israel run by said the drug cartels and human trade in Arkansas advice add. Do you know that the neural daughters run by project or Megan. Megan the main people running the project may for all intelligence on the planet is sad. You know that all drug cartels have illegal money to the tune of two trillion dollars. It was just a drug tate alone. Goes corporations like back. Dial making underground cities so you get your Willie Walker travel tickets to the underground all hell breaks loose and above land with nuclear war irvine logical chemical or chrome dejection from son. Do you know that no no I know everything because Dr Diggle Eagle using everything I do soccer and I'm GonNa give you the pictures of it. You're not gonNA get anywhere else. You're not going to get on any of these conferences. 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Two eight seven one or neutral medical dot com and and listen to the neutral medical report on the Genesis Radio Network with open lines every weekday moocher medical dot com bringing nutrition and medicine together How dare he act like an idiot and he knows a lot of them? Talk Down Mark Down like a bunch more welcome back. So what are the major issues. You see cook them because I honestly think that the first thing I see is right now number. One if seventy to seventy percent of Americans say they're Christian. Why the hell do we have abortion? Do you know many aborted babies. We have not just the American worldwide with Pun funded by America. How much in the last forty seven years since Roe versus Wade we have one point? Five billion gone so You start flying from the Arctic Circle North of Alaska through to the tip of of South America they would not be one individual left on the ground. That's how many people who've aborted. Did you know that I know we had the number one cause of death. Last year in America was abortion. Forty million right it's it's an atrocity that continues and Aw I believe that people understand. Look if you want to put a valve in pregnancy you can put us sort of your belly button. And they won't get pregnant. You just turn back. I didn't want to have a baby. Turn it off no hormones like sixteen docs addicts from taking birth control pill which causes cancer and no worried about abortion but you know what they want an astral sacrificing. What the actor plasma from killing a baby for their incubating Supervisor Sexual Warrior damage no Dr Diggle deck can be true? Why said well? You probably don't have access to fifteen thirty five. James Weir's book of Demon -nology or understand ancient high level demonic or druidic ceremonies like EPO human growth where they do ritual sacrifice in California every year every July. Right world leaders like the presidents and world leaders push that they call themselves hillbillies. They have a house up there. WELL HE MIA and so as Bill Clinton and his these are all lot of them. Are Road Scholarships. They go into Rhode Scholarship Program where they find people are real smart but then ten percent of our socio psychopaths is to give them a car wash or learning a ticket to get anything they want. You know any woman. They want Any money they want they want position of power and government. They want that'd that'd be total perverts including going to you know Agent epsteins island where they can have sex with underage. Baby maybe girls. Oh my gosh people. That can't won't be true. I said I'm safe. Thank God because if if I was an average person I I knew everything I knew I would commit suicide. I've saved by the blood of Jesus and I'm here as a warrior. Not just a little Mr Mini like. I got an opinion. I don't have an opinion I haven't experienced. It's not open to your damned opinion. I venture living hell to know what I know. It's not funny and I want people realize that if they actually have enough nerve to call into the show Kalinic one eight eight one eight sixty four zero one and I think real fast. I'm like Spiderman Superman. I will rip your heart and your brain rate out in Charlotte right near Daniel's throat I won't be nice over because it won't people realize I care for you out there but people are are ritually in suicidally stupid. They don't WanNa even accept facts Chevron rate in the face like looking at the demon retreat now trying to remove trump to the realize dangerous. Here's with what's going on in Russia and China that if trump doesn't do what he does work out deals and get these damn weapons on here we're going to have thermonuclear war. Whether Dour Twenty Twenty four to twenty twenty four twenty twenty eight twenty thirty two. We're GONNA die someday. Were three hundred million. Americans put their hand up the ball in their hand with an x ray FLASH FROM HIS OWN nuclear weapon within thirty to forty miles and are GonNa turn to an atomic vapor and instantly die people's Ohno Dr Diggle said what happened in Inaugu Sake near Shema. Those are little tiny weapons convertible what they have now plus biological weapons. I was trained by the way. Nine hundred seventy two by a bioweapon near worked on possessive. I'm a bio weapon expert. That's why was reported Man Reserve Admiral. He was for the F. B. I. D. C. for the federal government operation top often dark winter. I'm not a minor minion guy. I'm a dangerous. SOB good thing. I'm saving on. Not Devil don't golf off being anikin. SKIED EAGLE DR steagall. Because Dr Steve will be less scary than the guy into movie. Dr Darth Vader Darth vader would be like a poppy compared to dig. If I went to the dark aside Olympia realized that I've saved by prayer. I had a lot of people praying for me and by the blood Jesus Shula the father in the flesh and I want them to understand how bad things are right now and honestly. I'm praying for trump. I'm praying gets rid of the man I'm praying for Americans. To wise is up. Including millennials are worried we'll bankruptcy because of the university has been allowed to be bloated up so the amount of depth students have that they can't even afford to have a family me or move away from Mama's home thirty six years of age still sleeping in a bedroom and mom and daddy's house. That's all by design isn't it what do you think. Oh yeah yeah they want them desperate enough. They crave communism and socialism. Please take the debt off me. I don't care I'll be a million in a cage and under social communist government even kill one hundred million people plus twentieth century please let Bernie Sanders closer liar. Wasa changing by the way from hiawassee to liar with you like that. I like wire Wasa Wasa. Hey aren't you. What are just like Bernie? He looks like Mr Potato Head. You know was funny fuzzy. Little white hair but what plays me is. People are buying rhetoric tastier spew. Yeah it makes me makes Reeve for fellow Americans that are stupid enough and suicide elite dense enough to accept the lie that somehow the state is going to take care of them. Are you kidding. One thing America's done is we've been genetically distinct because everybody who came here originally went more than twenty miles from their home country and it doesn't matter what your skin color is genetic exceptional. Which means wets why? We've invented most of the invention of the roller on Americans and we have invented the invaders economy in the world. That's what China's trying to steal it. They Stole High Speed Ralph in Japan and bombarded and come back Canada to try to make their own high speed rail. They didn't invented same as they have. I had a company on a few years ago. Talked about high speed Air Vanes for you know for these things up to two hundred feet to actually create electrically from wind Chinese stole the technology and after hours rebuilding their alternate machines. We'd still against their competitor American company and then transfer technology and it's still a patent and then try to patent it day. Don't even try to hide it. These damn communist Chinese. I've had Gordon Chang on his Chinese on my show. I'm trying to get another guy. WHO's an expert on China Eh? Communists are nervy Bayer Bastards got and they're demonic if you're a Christian in China and you try to preach the Gospel we're GonNa end up and allowed. I Cam get tissue type. You know that and if your take up they put a bulletin and bacteria they charged family the cost of the bullet to kill Ya. whipple all your organs in an airplane because Swissair truck phony organs out is right beside the The airport runway. They pop them into a kind of a cooler JAG container dinner to make sure your heart lungs. Whatever the hell you WANNA transplant cleanly gets to Atlanta or hospital in Europe to transplant organs? Who are rich? Don't received recipient people's Ono doctor developed. They tried to recruit me personally in nineteen eighty seven. This is not a theory does not open. You're damned opinion out there people say well. That's just your opinion Douglas. A you know what I have people especially on different virus show Eh. been on notice. Now she's going to have a dialogue with her. She's not going to be out anymore. And if you don't want me to to pontificate shut off Damn Radio on suffer because I'm going to punt advocate because I have something to say you'd better damn listener. You'RE GONNA suffer so I'd like you to comment now where we're going now. Where are we going? We're we're going to hell and handcart world leaders. At least trump has got a good heart and he's he's trying to do the right thing but he's still around him right. Oh Yeah I think He's looking at looking Nikki. Haley accusing Tillerson and Kelly tried to manipulate so they can attack trump from the back backstabbing. I think Nick Amy's perfect but man she's making these claims you know it's bad right. Yeah when in the sand. heat-driven is recognized her as an honorary member that He doesn't remember Dan. Even though the one that Jesus Christ so right Jews understanding. We're Jimmy appraiser Sir monitored. Judy Masters Thirteen Hundred Years. In Babylon except the Cepheids IRA and the town WanNa Babylon these books. I've read parts of the Babylonian avalon and hang up the Babylonian Talmud right. Have you read the cepheids. IRA The belt wizardry of the Jews this. This is a matter from ancient Judaism that Jesus taught to walk around the city of Jarkko on wall spell Jimmy appraiser. That's why God said I shall have the praises of my people. That's why Jesus got incarnation. Carney that as a Jew he came to Earth as the praise of the people of Israel that interesting hey modern Judaism. The keepers of the book are persecuted because it kept the book. Even if they didn't fully understand it but modern Judaism most rabbis visor. God's are wizards no different than Serramonte. Make deficit of the trilogy. These summon demons in fact I had the guy who was actually going to change amy in Hebrew twenty years ago. Say Hey we summoned even to this and that and then he gave me the proof. I was having a good thing. I was sitting down to it and fall down. People need to know. I'm not saying this because I'm GONNA attack. I Have Hebrew blood I have You Know Kalinic broad from direct blood descendant over twenty two hundred years go from ozeas. I have Syrian blood and Kurdish blood. In fact two people don't understand the magic were a cross breed between the Cohen's were descended from Aaron and Moses and the Kurds which is the mediums of Esfahan western Iran near the Bushehr Reactor. Now do you know so that we're the ones guess Jesus. Because they're astrologers they see the star signs of the coming of Messiah in the flash you know they the ones. My answer was the one that gave the guests that Jesus and traveled to talk to the current leaner. The monster tried to kill all the babies off because he wanted to kill off those that might be the Messiah. Remember that my ass is where the badge brought together you. Shula Gold Frankincense Zimmer. I know what the Heck's going non let me tell you my jeans and scares the hell on the population and the churches are dead. Oh you're dead. Church doesn't want look for example. Do you know the last time I spoke of church was living waters fellowship. Twenty and a half years ago in one thousand nine hundred and actually in almost two years ago nineteen and a half years ago almost almost twenty years ago in January of Twenty nine hundred ninety nine two thousand and I spoke living waters fellowship. Both Saint Paul outside Saint Paul Minnesota. This OUGHTA I offered to do a video. They can do free talk. I'll raise money for for the homeless or the sicker tired. Whatever the churches do not WANNA here prophetic word? I'm sure you don't get invitations or your other people get invitations to speak in churches to you know even volunteer volunteer. All you want. They don't want you. You know why. I hear a comment from a pastor of Great North Coast Church. And it's nice. You go there. You can worship begin seeing songs and shake Kansas people who've been skin color and feel really good tingle but the fact is I asked him I said do you teach anything at all. We don't understand prophecy. We're the welcoming welcoming. Committee is what he said. We just like to praise. Jesus I'm thinking among God wants her to the Bible you nor was written not for other people other other times has written for us today. Isn't it that's why power a prophecy. Which is your ministry and all the people? I'm trying to get these other people on my show one of the guys. What's his name? Patrick he wrote it an interesting video book. I think it's called about. The people of the Khazar is called the people of Goggin Megan Right and of course Zeki thirty eight and thirty nine it starts off. The scripture is the beginning of the Ezekiel thirty tonight. I've against you go gog and mega a meshack onto ball. You don't want Michigan to baller Moscow into BOSC. These are the grandsons of Noah. Did you know that Yes sir. Oh Yeah it's very interesting book the He he is Spending time in Europe right now. This house burned down in California. And which Guy Referring to Daniel Patrick the guy the road wrote it. I would've contacted the one of them on the air because I'm sure he has inside just like you say I got. I can praying. God will tell me what to learn. I will not pray and try to get knowledge and guy what God doesn't want me to know he wants to noble three or four three by five cards. That's it and I pray when Donald Trump got in and I say Lord is Donald Trump the crisis one hundred reuss neuro learner. God said after two abs- I pray the actually Audrey semi doll mask anymore Hebrew letter. They don't ask again diggle breath or are you still looking for that I behind you can really trust a medical doctor endorsed product that is backed by honest research and true integrity then search no further go to neutral medical dot com for Dr Bill. Eagles try proven time and time again to be the very best iodine available for you is the only tesla activated admonitory plasma in the world optimizes might Oke Andrea function generation of New Mexico. 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Along with sports energy light we have the amazing neutra complete the most complete read and re greened drink in the world that the best most feel and flavor get off Mexican to with better mineral messages are fruit flavored mixed power vitamins. Stay well with neutral medical. Every day I remember the kick off Your Eagle Crop. Better Save your firefighters. Welcome back so awareness. Last thing I wanted to expand on where you think things are going because we got the election coming up less than a year we have the world. Id We have climate change occurring hiring we have. The banks are cutting funding for. Let's say countries in Seoul's America's the aren't plan acropper famine. Next year we have worldwide identification happening in the world of ID program we have the on the verge like right out of Jack. Ryan Dom clown clancy's miniseries are the season never to a Russian nukes and lower island by the way people. How did you know that you go as well? I'm a very logical person. I think God has a way of. Dan Slammed ocoee my brain. Because I'm very good at researching on the supernet call it. But I have Intel contacts and call somebody in the Pentagon and more tonight night. I got people in San Comment Gurney Renaissance. They contact me off from right after the show and then third supernatural. God's given me a remote site which is not like these remote viewer viewer idiots after draw pictures right. If you're it means if got prompts me to pray on something. He gives me standing visuals rate while I'm wide awake. I don't have to take Iowa Ska marijuana or so mind altering thing like a magic mushrooms. He just shows me stuff so over two years ago. I'm sitting at my desk. I'm right now and got to diggle. You need a priori knowledge. Okay I'm gonNA show you something. All of a sudden I saw giant Russian submarines telling the sidewalls the or knock river in Venezuela. I said Oh my gosh. That doesn't look good then. He showed me missile. Silos firing off high-speed Next Generation Hypersonic Cruise missiles from Venezuela Omega so contact after my friend who had on the show for years John Spring was on Tuesday yesterday and this guy was the initial whistle blower Iq to twenty of the Cuban missile crisis. which took a flight in one year later in nineteen sixty one of you to flight over Cuba shoulder? Dan missiles were there and nine hundred. Eighty three in Grenada so I asked him to use his intellect figure out. What the heck's going on and get his sources and if a couple months later my gosh do you go? You're right now in our T.. We're human watching for years in Nicaragua. But they got damsels in lower she island directly souls of east coast of the United States about one hundred fifty miles north of the coast Venezuela Taylor owned by Venezuela. Guess what I started watching on the weekend Jack Ryan and guess what. The main theme is Russian nukes in Venezuela besides mine for Tantalum which is a strategic mineral for high tech companies. You got understand this God. Show me supernatural. People say well how did he know things as God wants to promise to know so all by the way he's warm e. Don't start praying for stuff if I don't want you to go there because you do I'm GonNa let you see it and you're going to carry that burden. I don't WanNa know all hell breaks loose. And then when he does he's going to tell me when I should praying in and get the knowledge limited. I'm scared I I'm frightened to death but whatever you know and people want to say well they don't WanNa take seriously. I said you'll take me seriously when you hold up your hand and see a flash of xrays because you're going to be hit with a thermal blasts and turn to an atomic vapor people Nagasaki on the wrong side of the building facing the nukes. Oh no Dr Ingle. That won't happen. I said really the Russians against many nukes Nukus so many times over. You can't even imagine it. And now they got nukes a mock seven to mock nine. Fast Mach. Seven is smoking man. What does mock what seven miles miles? That's right forty nine hundred miles to mock nine which like seven thousand miles an hour. WHOA that means under twenty minutes? They can hit Norfolk Virginia Washington. DC might not be a bad thing. Yeah with all the district Norfolk's roller nuclear submarines reindeer and everything right so well people even if they have a high altitude explosion of the weapon. And I'm an expert on the MP. Okay I'M GONNA get Dr Pye on the program from the National Academy of Research on trying to protect our UHF transformers. I even know technology. Actually turn off fires. I have three technologies have put my videos recently how to turn. Fires was off using Three technologies was using liquid nitrogen micro pulse with linear accelerator. got into the other skin or technology to turn off the auction boundaries. Zone for your kid oxygen from the others positron spectroscopy. We have a positron beam that connects you strip the electron from fire so can't won't maintain the fire. It could even use positron beam technology on wind storm systems or even turnoff earthquakes and volcanoes using frequency modulation two calls micro micro quakes everyday. People say how all stuff I said as I told you I'm Clark Kent. That's not possible diggle. I said that's why I want to scholarship and made eleven being seven thousand people to do a PhD nuclear plasma physics at Mit with people even had a master's degree already. I meet them. Dr Daego of what is it. Me said that's why depend are visited me. Twenty eight years ago wanting me to be his understudy. He's can get this damn guy and turn them against the most Sti- God the world will shake fear. Thank God people prayed for my my story rotten soul. Thank God now people need to understand. What do you see facing us Jerry? 'cause we're we're I I am terrified but WanNa see this hearings today and I can't I believe the demon rats are comments today. I'm terrified we're heading toward an election and literally a year from now. I'm terrified reading even the month before the election to the world. Oh I D I'm terrified buyers. Changes kringle heavy increase volcanoes earthquakes all over the world. We're getting rain for Paul Shift aren't we. Yeah we have not. Do you know that. An April twenty nine twenty nine less than ten years now apotheosis. You don't WanNA profits names in ancient Egypt. Sharon is a Destroyer all your star. It's Nastro three times the size of the one that destroyed the dinosaurs sixty six million years ago and at one percent. Chance of it or refill striking. I you know I read something about that. And we had a halloween. We had a a a city crasher. There was large enough to destroy a artsy like Paris or New York City that whip by year's lesson four thousand miles is like insider communication satellites communities or twenty thousand. This is less than four thousand miles above the earth. And then no warning on a damn sucker punch ray buys wine other guys in Space Command. That was your doctor for years. Let me tell you I guarantee a lot of them. Have what's called rectal Spasm the direction contract enough up near their throat when that happened. I guarantee you see what just happened on the satellite. We didn't see that coming did we. And it gets on the news and people. Don't connect the dots and realize like we don't know what the Hell we're doing. And by the way if we had a bioweapon some guy has laugh Fleiss file in the back of his of his apartment in Chicago and he decides I lost the Ruhani from Iran's it's time to take your Vilo what Mr Whatever Muslim and spray it out the window of a boss in say Chicago to adopt underground subway way. People die by the millions. I didn't work game simulations with FBI AT CDC in the Center for Disease Control Not a minor thing. If you'll say you now what we were killed everybody we killed everybody. Our game simulations did you. I know that there we weren't just a little incompetent or somebody survive. We kill everyone and people are ain't GonNa last. It's so so frustrating when I put myself my life and my soul on the line to do this to have idiots. What argue US please? I don't care if you've got great five. If you've got good evidence and logic please I want to hear from you but if you just WanNa do at Hamad protects. Who'd gone started doing at Homs are I want to say it's painful to hear you talking thing while you're opening deborah diverse? You need to shut up and listen if I had been difficult because this is really serious. We're what is on this hearing today. I watch four hours. I was having what's called the connection. You WanNA conditions like intellectual inside out. I couldn't believe it watching this. I couldn't believe it I thought where am why is this a banana. Republic Venezuela is Cuba's the Soviet Soviet Union. When it fell? This is not good. Is it no. It's not. It's horrendous shifting breath and we've got about five or six minutes. Do I want you to do two things right now. And this demonstrates Eagle Eagles enter ten to fifteen percent of the time. I want you to ask the toughest one or two questions you can ask. He had no of the man answering. It is inspired elderly. Has God whispering answering his ear ask right now. Any question about enters health geopolitics astrophysics metallurgy. Quantum mechanics artificial intelligence. Anything you want. Go ahead ask anything no rehearsal. Just go ahead and do it completely without rehearsal. This has got me Ask any question. Ask a question from the you know. No rational human being has the answer. And I'll give you the answer. Climate change can affect thirty year mortgages time. Change time is causes suicide. You talk about the time. Change the our change line global warming lamp. All who's doing the climate change. Let me give you some some facts. Facts is not serious or even supernatural. We have since the last twenty years inserted particle of strontium Barium aluminum aluminum in the air and the project which is heart project. We actually now changed the air into a plasma so we have scaler trans dimensional ways. We can induce earthquakes and volcanoes using harmonic resonance as to your weather systems drotz superstars and even think all tropospheric conversion which means we can drop the temperature on the ground. Two hundred degrees to turn into liquid nitrogen did you. I know that climate change is completely artificial globalist Ryan Clementines had scientists and technicians to contact me when that superstorm hit New Orleans above was twelve thirteen years ago. Something like that. Yeah Yeah. They contacted me and he told me how. They're marching thirty minute to minute trying to stop him so it didn't indirectly on New Orleans and moved it over to Lake pontchartrain rate beside it. This is by design. That's why even the fires. For example they have space-based Jewish record energy weapons and even drones with so many Drecun Jr be lasers and other things on them that my military friends are up in northern California last year in their frying the hell out of Paradise California. They couldn't even get helicopters to drop the fire. Retardant they have smart grid with jared sparks. In fact it's outlawed sketch one. Because he knows that causes Bergson Burns wires and buildings and we have smart grid. Because when you don't move it away from Chapelle trees and you have ten percent humidity you're GonNa get a damn fire. Fire is all by design people. Oh no this is happening. And by the way the insurance carriers are working because all tied to Rothschild News others. So if you lose your home it only talks fi environment. They make the insurance. They won't completely reimburse us he can't rebuild. Are you kidding me. No I'm not Verses got all these documents improves this crap people say oh no Dr Diggle as it is not open to your damned opinion. You have to do think. I'll reading eating and weeping. Read and weep. Okay next question go ahead got a couple minutes ahead. Anything control well first off. Guns are just one layer of technology and the biggest problem with ammo control. The credit card companies in various states like New Yorker trying to make sure your places like Walmart won't amyloid anymore and not enough of the public look at bulletin making machines so the biggest problem around ammo there's a long prolonged civil distortion. What I'm going to do and you need to know this people I'm going to release is non lethal weapons in the next few months you can make in your own garage with stuff? You get from hardware store online if I get to the point where I get totally take. I'M GONNA release scanner phase as we wrap that. You will be a lot more dangerous than guns or anything that the military as they wanna come and take your guns. They're not gonNA hear a pop or a bullet coming at them. It'll be a lot more nasty. Asti all right off the main problem with AMMO controlling the credit card companies and the big stores like Amazon Walmart Mark. They're gonNA shut off your Mo so the first thing I recommend you do if you're out there and you have guns get to a gun control show and get an AMMO making machine and bill start making your own camel cough ammo you can have all gone you want. You don't have AMMO. You got me. It's pretty damn whereas when he got forty or fifty shots and Utah Augier hunting. But now you gotta have a long civil distortion where they are gonNA wear you down. You don't have enough ammo gun control here where he boys Komo control. What do you think of that? AMMO control Walmart Amazon. Red Flag laws should be all list off his God made up of. You have some of the answers. I have all with album. Most I got all all the all that smarten up and listen if you don't WanNA listen. You're suffering dire as the people.

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Analyzing the NBA Draft Through the Lens of the Finals | The Corner 3

"Welcome to the ringer podcast network. I'm was Kelly fresh off of talk. The thrones the ringer is introducing a new live Twitter after show covering season, two of HBO's. Big little lies immediately after each episode, the ringers, Amanda Dobbins and ESPN's Munichites. We'll be going live to have their initial reactions breakdown everything we saw in the episode and to kick us off. There'll be a special season to preview airing on Friday, June seventh at twelve PM Pacific. So join Amanda and Meena for big little live every Sunday on Twitter. Welcome to the show. This is the corner, three. My name's Kevin O'Connor. And I am joined today by the raiders president rafters fan in our associate editor, Danny Chow. We took game one. We. A great night, Danny. We and we have a great show for you today as well though. We are without Jonathan sharks. He is somewhere away unavailable today. Unfortunately, by show, he's a white, man. I don't think he talks isn't Hawaii at a far better place right now. Danny's in Los Angeles. I am in Massachusetts for recording this at one thirty pm eastern and today's show we're going to have like a dirty NBA files. We're going to have our NBA finals draft comparison awards show, where we're going to compare draft prospects to players in the NBA finals. But I any obviously, we have to discuss Toronto's game one win over Golden State. Raptors one one eighteen to one zero nine to take a one a lead in the series and all game long. Gold state struggled to score in the half court how to Toronto do it. Banney the rafters defense is just completely locked in right now. And I was actually really really impressed with what they did with Steph curry sure he dropped thirty four points. Sure. You know his style line still looked very good. But he looked bothered. There wasn't a lot of support around him. The, the warriors put a lot of lineups that didn't really make. Around him. A lot of guys who didn't make plays who were kind of just standing around and I think a big part of that was just the raptors kind of trusted what they had going for them in the regular season. So the one game that Steph curry played against the raptors in their in their two game regular season series. He was hounded by Fred, vanfleet almost the entire game. And pretty much the same result occurred. This time. So across those two games seventy two possessions. Fred vanfleet, was the primary defender on curry, and in those seventy two possessions curry shot to for twelve with Fred vanfleet on him. And he was one for six in last night's game in thirty three position. So when identical shooting line for Steph. Yeah. Fred vanfleet has kind of emerged as this unlikely postseason championship potential. Run full cure. I didn't see the curry curry stopper. If you think about title from his brother. Seth is he kind of the ideal curry defender. Like vanity is is a really really smart off ball defender. He kind of has the strength to knock hurry, office spots. He has the low center of gravity to, you know, work his way around screens, and he has the vision and kind of like just the know how to know where he's supposed to be. And plus he kind of beats curry on the unlikeliness scale. Of him being a good defender like the dude is five ten what like there's no reason why he should be defending curry this. Well, that vanfleet did incredibly well individually and, as you said, Dami curry did seem bothered, and even though he did score thirty four thirty four points. A lot of those buckets came from off all actions, whether it was off screens, relocations handoffs that led to either three point attempts or layups or drawn fouls. A lot of his points. Came from off all actions, and that's partially because vanfleet that such a great job on ball. And I think overall and then entire game Toronto showed how Golden State's lack of a potent off ball shooters could be an issue for the warriors in this series because they were constantly helping off. Sometimes flat out. Ignoring Draymond green. Andrea Dala Jonas to Repco and so on and so forth on that roster DeMarcus cousins, as well where there does over helping on Steph curry, and Klay Thompson. And I think that's one of the reasons why we didn't see. Steph and clay for that matter have great games with the ball in their hands, and why most of it came either off of broken plays in transition, some of it came off of like like we talked to said off ball actions, but on the ball, I think for Torah for gold state moving forward in the series despite that success trial head I still would like to see dream on at the five. He didn't play any minutes at the five in game one which is odds to me when it seemed like the obvious decision for Steve Kerr and then again, green rarely was uses the screener for Steph curry. He wasn't a couple of occasions and trying to get a good job against it. But I would have liked to have seen Kerr in the warriors turn to that. Draymond Steph curry, pick and roll more frequently in game one especially when they were just really struggling to get buckets certain during certain stretches of those games, right? Yeah. I mean one thing that I wrote before the series was just Thrashers needed to win. You know, the, the minutes in which Marcus all was on the floor and. The fact that the raptors were plus eight in game one with Marcus on. And he played a pretty much flawless game. You couldn't have asked more from him. He was very decisive. He pretty much shot the three every time he was open, and he was open a lot because I was part of the warriors strategy of, but yeah, I, I was actually wondering, like, why the warriors weren't kind of trying to run him off the floor sooner I it, it kind of comes down to Kerr, not necessarily being a proactive coach all the time because he has the weapons he has. He doesn't necessarily need to force the issue when he knows. You know, Steph Klay drain on their they're eventually going to get going. But yeah, I do wonder like once the warriors decide. Okay. We're just gonna go to our death line up a little bit more a little bit earlier, do the rafters necessarily have accounted for that. You know, I do wonder with the death lineup. The the. The advantage of that is perhaps, you do play a Marcus oh, off the floor. And if, if Toronto does choose to go, small Ceac him at the five, that's where OG an-and OBI being available is critical because if you're putting Ceac in at the five and taking off he Baca orga soul. You're severely small your overmatched with size, and that's where Golden State as they have proven against Portland in Houston can just kill you on the offensive boards of you are small and last night, Toronto, just like the flat out bigger team across positions. They were long they rebounded. Well, on obviously, there are linked on defense created some issues for Golden State in the half court warriors, scored only zero point eight four points per play in the half court, according to cleaning glass, which is horrific but moving forward, I do wonder if maybe the inverse of this Danny is do you go big? Do you try to do what Philadelphia did against Ceac who had a tremendous game where maybe you put a bigger guy on, PASCAL Siachen and then have Draymond as the? The guy roaming a little bit more is only logic doing that rather than going small and instead, just changing the matchups, so who who would you put on like looney. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. That makes sense to me. I mean I feel like dream on would probably take it as a point of pride to kind of shuts yakim down in game two game three. Just because he he and he had talked about this in interviews with the Porter's. You know, he was on his heels for much of the night of Siachen was just basically taking it to him, every single time down the floor. Whether it was in the post weather was in transition, Draymond is a supremely smart defender, but he often just guessed wrong on a lot of these plays. And Siachen made them pay for it was the whole conversation about the warriors. Don't need Kevin Durant overblown. Or are we, we collectively the collectively NBA Twitter overreacting to this game on performance without him where goal and say it again, like we said, if the top didn't have the potent off all shooters that allowed Toronto to help off ball or is this just a one game thing? And golden. Still can win the series without him, Danny. I mean they could totally win this series. I'm overreacting because like this is look, I've never experienced before, like this is this is a new feeling for me. So I'm overreacting. But ultimately, no, I think the warriors strategy was with solid like you, you trap, you double coli, and then once he gets into the paint. You always have like that roving third guy, they basically created huge wall around coli and quizzed, not a guy like Janas who can kind of shoot over guys, you know, he at this point in the playoffs. His legs are shot. He's largely trying to carve space out for himself, but they're, they're basically airtight down in the paint. So they're forcing him to make really tough passes. He made some pretty gross passes last night, under duress, I think the strategy is fine because look, what are the odds that Seok him who has been miserable for, you know, a c- a series and? Half prior to this that Fred van Vliet continues his historically hot shooting that everything clicks for the for the raptors the way it does. I think I don't know. I think it's a it's a fair strategy to, to continue with it slim for shore. And I, I agree with you that goal and say can win the series without Katie. I picked them in six with or without Katie, one of the issues last night with their half court with the fact that they were turning the ball over when they were pressured and this morning, I saw some stuff on, on Twitter about how it actually wasn't gold states half court offense. That was the issue it was their transition defense and it was clear like watching the game last night with Ceac and beating them up the floor, Danny green beating them up the floor and a couple of occasions that they had some severe errors, but I was curious about why those transition errors were happening in the first place. So I pulled up synergy and watched all twenty of Toronto's possessions, in, in transition from. Last night, and on six of them, Golden State did get back on those six attempts. The raptor, scored six points on seven of them, Golden State tried to get back, but for number of reasons, whether it was broken play or turnover or an unfortunate long rebound on those seven Toronto scored ten points and then the remaining seven the warriors didn't get back at all. They just showed poor awareness. They miscommunicated didn't cover guys and those the raptors scored thirteen points. So it's clear that Golden State could have done a better job getting back. But again, I was curious why those happened and I would argue that thirteen of the twenty nine points that they scored on those twenty sessions where a direct result of the lack of space in Golden State has from the lack of shooters on the roster. And from the pressure that Toronto was able to put on Steph were put on clay by trapping, or helping on showing on pick and rolls or just even there's a couple of cases where Steph would bring the ball up and he two guys on him. It'd be forced. To pass. Yeah he passes. Lada tough passes for Steph last night. And whether it was a turnover or just this tough pass sometimes just lead to a poor shot. And I think that that's still to me is the source of one of the uses for golden say their effort can get better. But it still about the lack of spacing that they had which again comes back to Katie, who Chris Haines reported should be back in game three but more likely four he reported that this morning on Yahoo. They couldn't they couldn't let you know rafters fans. Enjoy this for like another two days. What are they going to do it gets Katie like, I don't know. I don't know. Well, that's the other side of it. If you if Katie does return earned the series Colli, Leonard instead of having the ability to roam off the ball in distrupt, every single one of Golden State's actions, he's going to have to be stuck to Katie on off ball on ball, regardless of her Katie is on the floor collide will have to be there. He is the defender on Toronto's roster, the only defender who can contain Kevin Durant, so collides role suddenly changes drastically, which opens up a whole bunch of stuff for the Golden State Warriors. Right. Sort of goes without saying, Danny, but I do think with so much conversation entering the series about how they don't need Katie last night. So many of the reasons why they do that appear. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if it was necessarily, they don't need Katie. It was just like this is fun, too. It's fun to know that the warriors are still the warriors. There's still the warriors of old. They're still the warriors of four years ago even without that, like just all time presence in their lineup. They can still conjure the kind of magic that made them so compelling for years ago. I think ultimately look the league has gotten a lot better in those four years, whether or not, we've been able to see it like Katie has kind of. I don't know. Insulated the team from a lot of what has been going on in the league around them. He's just giving them that extra level that they didn't they didn't ever really need to care about anyone other than their own, you know, their own system. And so I don't know. It was it was a nice reminder. But ultimately, yeah, of course they need eighty we have loads of other content about the NBA finals up on the ring dot com. Jong Zalis wasn't Jurassic Park last night. And he captured the entire vibe made you feel like you were there last night. Dan Devine was there. But he was in the building. And he covered how impressive Toronto's depth was last night and Polly. You Getty did the winners and losers of game one and Danny you wrote above the absolutely wonderful, PASCAL Ceac him. He's back just like the rafters. He's back before we move on. I have to tell you about the ringers twenty nineteen NBA draft guide at fifty fifty of my full scuttle reports including rankings. Myself, any Chow, and Jonathan sharks with team needs and commentary from guys like Roger Sherman, and it will be updated sometime earlier mid next week. And we're going to expand to sixty pull full profiles and have a mock draft as well. Also wanted to tell you about a fundraiser, I'm running during the NBA finals called dunk on cancer can be found at dunk on cancer dot com or raising money for every dunk in the NBA finals. You're able to donate a lot of people are doing one dollar per dunk, which means for every Duncan, the NBA finals money is going towards cancer research, and treatment at the Dana Farber Cancer Institute in Boston, Massachusetts. We have almost fifty thousand dollars in donations already, and it's not even game to yet of the finals. So if you wanna join in and make the finals a little bit more meaningful with each dunk. Go to dunk on cancer dot com. Anyway, to any up next. We are going to be doing our NBA finals draft comparison awards, and basically, just to explain what this is, is every year in the playoffs, we see players get exposed. We see players who are great regular season players turn into non impactful postseason players and it's like drain mongering said there are eighty two game players. And then there are sixteen game players right now in the finals with the raptors in the warriors, we're seeing a lot of sixteen game players in the postseason. So these are comparison awards towards draft prospects that sort of fit the mold these aren't perfect one to one comparisons or not saying anybody who's going to be the next dream on the next Kawai. It's just guys that sort of fit the idea in the mold of that player a long-term once they develop into their prime so then he you wanna kick us off. Yeah. I and I do want to reiterate to like we're not comparing them like once. One in terms of. Yeah. You know, I skill sets it's more like what does this player embody and what can a prospect necessarily take from that mentality? And so the first award, we're gonna do the Colli Leonard award go through the projected role player who has star upside in the NBA and for me, I'm looking at a guy who has maybe one of the highest ceilings outside of the lottery and its tail and Horton Tucker from Iowa State, six four to thirty probably thirty five he's a beefy boy wait, maybe three hundred. Yeah. Honestly, seven one and a half foot. Wingspan. He's the youngest player projected to be drafted in the first round and he's just around ball of clay, like almost literally his his officiency was pretty bad in his freshman year, but he adds the kind of broad strokes to be many different types of players. He's powerful great. First step has the wingspan that some centers would love to have his a low center of gravity kind of has a lot of comfort in handling the ball in the pick and roll. He has a lot of Embiid doesn't really have the, the finessed to kind of put it all together yet, but that's a player with incredible upside with all those skills that, you know, NBA teams are looking for, you know, he's going to be starting off as a role player, just because he's so young and he doesn't really have a defined elite skill. But, you know, three four years down the line, you're looking at you're looking at a guy with all the physical attributes and all of the broad strokes of, you know, Ma. Modern skill sets across multiple positions. I think he has a really strong shot at being better than where he drafted. I'm glad we started off with him because I got to be awfully Dan Horton Tucker stirs. The hell out of me. Yeah. He scares me. I have them ranked thirty two on my board. Maybe I'm being a bit too risk adverse with him. I think you have thirteen or fourteen th on your board. I'm just concerned that so much of the appeal of him as his age has youth that he is somebody that we're looking at his youth, and that assuming he will get better over time. But I again, I just have some serious concerns with his shot selection has decision making his touch. He's a poor free throw shooter. He's a average three point shooter statistically last year as a freshman Iowa State with him. Like he's somebody who when we look back at our rankings. Five or ten years from now, I might be like, damn, I really missed on Horton Tucker. What a fool I was to have him that low. Right. But I think you could. Yes. Yeah. But he somebody that I'm like, you know what? I'll let him be somebody else's problem or or or savior. He's a low low low floor high ceiling guy that I'm just not feeling super confident about the ticket, take a shot at. But I definitely see the appeal as, as the quiet, Colli Leonard award move onto the dream on green award, which goes to the super switchable guy that can also pass the ball. Oh man. I think I know where we're going here. I think the player is named starts with a Z, right? Yeah. Let's let's ignore Zion Williamson, though, because we have talked about him a ton. It can't he's I on everybody knows him. So let's go with the Z. Xilin cheat him a redshirt senior from Arizona state. He's, he's become one of my favorite players in the draft, Danny. He's six foot eight. With a seven foot wingspan? He is an elite athlete. And I use. Elite purposely he is an elite athlete. He plays with intensity and focus but you don't find from players too often, and I mean, that like a Marcus smart, Draymond green PJ Tucker type of mentality he defends across positions in college with point guards and wings and Fords. And, and sometimes even centers in the NBA I think he projects is a guy who can do the same thing, aside from big beefy centers, the Embiid types. But what makes him for me a, a dream on type is that he can also pass the ball? And there's very few players with his type of athleticism and size and length on defense. That can also handle the ball in play make off the dribble on offense. So the question with him moving forward is going to be the jump shot. He did not shoot the ball well at all. And college he had to change his shooting mechanics since the end of the college season. And he has, and I think it's a positive that he showed the willingness to change his mechanics. Whether it translates to the court, whether it. Translates to NBA range from the corners, and from the three point line remains to be seen. But I think with cheat him, he is somebody that I have twenty four of my board. A lot of people expect him to go undrafted, but I have hard time I have a hard time. Finding reasons why he's not a first round pick. The spite the lack of the jump shot, but despite the fact he's twenty three years old as a redshirt senior. I think he warrants a high selection this year's draft because high tech. Hi, character guy who has so many translatable skills on the defensive end of the floor. And as a playmaker in a draft that has so many players with endless question marks with only fear radical skills that are translatable, right. Yeah. And he you've mentioned he is on the older side, even for a senior he will be twenty four during the NBA regular season. He's twenty three now he's old Peterbilt, but, you know, he was a transfer. It makes a little bit more sense in that in that regard. And as you said, like he has a bunch of these skills that NBA teams covet and at a certain point in this draft specifically, that's kind of what you're looking for. You're looking to kind of fill in the kind of missing gaps that your team schematically could use this guy is going to be a star but he's definitely going to be able to play. I sort of look at him like when it comes to age. We see guys come into the drafts at come into the league at twenty four twenty five years old all the time. It McKinney was twenty five as of rookie with the raptors. He's twenty six now with the warriors, PJ Tucker didn't come into the back into the league until he was twenty seven years old after time overseas. And in with cheat them, he just spent a lot of time in college, he was a from San Diego State, and then also red-shirted as well. So he's old. That's undeniable. Right. But I think if you're looking strictly at his skills, regardless of the level of competition overseas or college or G league, I just think he has a lot that warrants a guy. That's draftable in a guy that deserves a shot in the NBA. I just like every time I see players like them I always think back to guys like Dominic McGuire. Who like we're just lost in the NBA in in, like the mid audits, because they had no position. And you know, he was an super athletic. Six eight dude who could do a little bit of everything. But couldn't really do much of anything and I'm just like man. What would that player look like in two thousand nineteen it's just like maybe he looked like she'd them and maybe cheat them ends up being a kind of you know, a Draymond in a role player sense. You know, like a Draymond of the bench. I like that, any who we have next next up, I think is one of our favorites a corner, three favorite, the PASCAL Siachen award goes to the hustler who probably needs to show that he has a jumper in the NBA to truly translate and truly validate where he gets drafted. I think that goes to Brandon Clark a of Gonzaga, we've talked about him. Plenty of there are definitely concerns about who he can be at the NBA level. He didn't have a great. Anthropomorphic measurements day at the NBA combine his wingspan is not up to par for a guy who projects to be a small ball, five of four in the NBA, but there's just so much to like about his game. He is one of the best defenders in the draft. He is a hard worker, and like, like cheat them, actually a transfer who had to overhaul his jump shot and really showed incredible touch in his one season Atkins aga-. And I don't know. I'm I'm just madly in love with the guy, I think Charkes even more so. Charts has on second on his board. Yup. And do the update on the NBA draft guide. Have you gotten rankings from sharks, yet from Hawaii? I'm curious if he's still second on probably not. But okay. Yeah. And honestly, like we talk about PASCAL Siaka men and one of the major things that he's been kind of known for this season has been his devastating spin move Brennan Clark has a little bit of that, too. And he has a little bit of that playmaking finesse as well off the dribble and, and kind of as a roll, man. There's a lots of like there. I think he I think he's a really, really smart defensive player an incredible rim-protector given his size. Yeah. I think Clark. We all three of us me you an sharks have him as a lottery pick. I think Clark is going to be a guy who despite the some of the knocks on head with the lack of a jumper, or rather, the, the if he jump shot his shorter wingspan. He more than makes up for it with his effort with his athleticism and just flat out skills and feel for the game. I think Clark is going to be one of those long term NBA players, whether he is a lottery, pick or slips into the back of the first shot because he'll be twenty three as a rookie. Sometimes, I think age gets sold over blown oftentimes, the prospects, and I hope for Clark he isn't necessarily knocked for that. But he probably will be to, to an extent. I he's a guy that he's going to be a player for a long. I mean an a another points of comparison between him in him and CRM there, they will both be twenty. Three in terms of their first season in the NBA. So by the way, I look back at Siaka him I had him ranked, like, I think forty in that in that draft. And I, I with him. My mistake was just over thinking that the jump shot over thinking the the defensive fundamentals because in college, he, he could defend, but he sometimes moved a little bit slow laterally hit some fundamental issues like the fending on his heels, rather defending on the balls of his feet. And that's that was a concern that I had because not all guys get the right teaching in order to improve their, their fundamentals on defense. But I- undersold the effort the mindset that he had. And that's something with Brennan Clark, or, or Xilin, cheat them, I'm gonna sound like a fifty five year old old school coach but, you know. I want guys who play hard, Danny. I want guys who want to win. Yeah. And Clark and cheat him and Seok them those are winners. Those guys that you wanna bet on, you don't want to bet on a guy who doesn't really love the game or a guy who's not willing to put an extra effort in the gym. A guy who's not willing to do the things that are necessary in order to improve their weaknesses. So Clark is a guy that I want to bet on, like, give me that guy in my team, rather than the guy who there's questions about how hard he's actually going to work, even if there's more theoretical skill. Yeah. Let's move onto the market solo award, which goes to the playmaking big man who can also shoot threes. We've talked about this guy before Goget Petacci. He is a center from mega planning overseas. He's one of my, again favorite prospects on the draft. Nineteen years old six eleven with a seven foot to wingspan. This season guy is somebody who has improved offensively when he was at. Younger younger levels. He was not a great defender in the still questions about how he'd like any center in today's lead conserve I've and this pace and space perimeter oriented league. However, I think charges made a great point an article he wrote a couple of weeks ago, or maybe a couple of months ago how with centers and as league you need to be able to offer offense you need to make an impact on that on the floor because it's so hard to actually make tangible impact on defense. And gogo is somebody he can space the four from three he can pass the hell out of the ball. He somebody who can screen and short roll and pop. He's a good all around offense of player with the potential to get even better as he gets into his twenty s. And I think the season he's shown that he can survive defensively he is competitive, at least his somebody who improved laterally any rebounds, too. So go get to meet checks. A lot of the boxes a guy who can space the floor who could pass the ball and a least survived offensively. Yeah. There's like. Strong shades of Yousef Nurkic with a three ball. I, I saw a clip a few weeks ago of him just like pulling up from three in a in a pretty important game. I was like, oh, crap. Okay. I, I didn't see that coming. And he's, he's also like a very like instinctual rim-protector. He's, he's definitely not a guy who's going to be like chasing dudes around, but in short spaces, he's actually pretty agile in pretty quick. It's just when you have them defending in space, one of the slow one of the slower guys in the draft to, to put it lightly who we got next to any. Oh, yeah. So the next one is kind of a strange award to be giving out, let we'll call it the Steph curry award. But. That doesn't really feel right? So maybe quit cook award, let's call when cook award for the best Shan point guard in this draft. I think we have a couple options here. The first is probably. It is it fair to say Darius garland? He only played five games. You know, it almost feels them. Celtic to call a project the lottery pick the Quin cook award, but I, but I see your point. It's not a it's not an insult. It's the best shooting guard in the draft on a special point guard on the drafting and garland. We talked about this a couple of weeks ago on a podcast and comparing garland Marantz, their questions about Garland's defense. There are questions about his true playmaking ability, but there's no doubt that that dude can shoot the hell out of the ball with his shot creation ability from the perimeter. Others that stay out Danny besides Garland's. I mean, one guy who stands out for me is Carson Edwards out of Purdue. I mean he chucked ten threes per game in his final season at Purdue. He shot it at around thirty six percent. But overall in his career, I think he's up to around thirty seven percent. He's a good three point shooter Edwards is interesting for me. Just because when we're talking about Steph curry when we're talking about Quinn cook these, these kind of quintessential warriors point guards, I like Edwards in that he kind of creates a lot of opportunities for others because of how he plays off the ball. He's pretty thick for a size. He's pretty comfortable setting screens away from the action. He definitely won't be shooting. Ten threes per game in the NBA. So like any kind of extra ability for him to kind of create shots out around the perimeter is definitely something that teams will be looking at so, yeah, I, I don't know. Like we're definitely not looking at the. Next Steph curry there. But Carson Everett's can definitely be point cook guy, one of the guy want to mention is Justin, right? Forman a senior from Hofstra. Right. Forman is somebody who I hate I hate even saying this. But like he reminds me of somebody who could be is AM, Thomas type of steel. There's a there's a slim chance that that would happen. A lot needs to break. Right. For a player has development, but he's a smaller point guard six one or six two soc if Turkey with the ball in his hands ability to change speeds change directions, and he can shoot an extremely high level off the dribble from deep range from three does not need to extend his range and only that he somebody who I think beyond the numbers, he averaged only two point nine since assist last season as a senior, which is not good. But I think he's sort of an undulated passer. I think he made some tough passes when you really dive into the film of him. He makes them tough cross court passes from underneath the rim that, quote unquote score. First guards, don't usually make so with foreign with right, former I do wonder with him, is it a matter of opportunity to become that pass? I that pass guy because in college he shared about court with, with a guy who passed the ball a lot, and I think with right form and may not get drafted but to me, he's a guy that would be near the top of my undrafted lists. If he does fall out of the drafts right, and I guess this trance transfers us to one of the lease sexy awards. We can possibly give the Alphonso McKinney award goes to the future, like goes to a future role player who will probably need to spend time in the G league to develop. My guy is semi. She to. He is a six ten physical specimen out of Canada. He was a top twenty recruit went to Vanderbilt lost dairies garland, within five games and just kind of. Wandered in the wilderness of data built completely horrendous season. But there's just so much to like, in terms of his build his unique skills for the position that he plays. So he's probably going to be playing Ford five but he can handle the ball. He can take the ball coast-to-coast. He shown the ability to make pretty solid passes. He was recovering from a tornado in his freshman season. So I think that probably played a little bit of a role in terms of his struggles in the season. I don't know. I I just think there's something there. And when you have a guy with that kind of physical talent, put them in the G league, let them kind of figure things out against grown men. Why not? I think with, with semi Shittu my, my one hang up with him entering the after the college season was what I had hoped the entering the season that was a productive jump shot. He, he shot only one for eighteen from three only fifty eight percent from the free throw line. And I think with all the skills that you're detailing, I am with you one hundred percent on all the positive traits, but with for buffer all that to be activated for all that to matter, you gotta be able to space, the floor and shit too, for me, has not shown the touch, or the shooting ability at this stage of his career for me to really feel super confident that in that manifesting for him long term. But that's the point that's why the ward is the Affonso McKinney award by having a guy spent time in the G league moving onto a guy that did get lost in the shuffle. But the in been a little bit of time the G league was Danny green. The Danny green award goes to the potential high end three Indy player and the obvious choice air. Danny's, Matisse viable, a senior from Washington. He will not go on drafted. He will not be a second round draft pick in all likelihood fiber had one of the greatest testicle defensive seasons of all time last year. Washington playing within the zone defense he was able to roll off ball and jump passing lanes like a free safety and it's not going to be what he's able to do in the NBA, but within that concepts he did show just as tenacity in his focus and his awareness defending off the ball. And that's critical in today's NBA, especially when you're defending guys that can shoot the hell out of the ball from three. So I think thighbone has those tools to be a great off all perimeter defender, but also with him on ball. I think it's pretty clear with his lateral ability with his athleticism. And again, has focused intensity in mindset for for him to be a great on ball defender. So he has that going for him to be a great potential, great defender in the NBA. The question will be like it was for Danny green after four years at North Carolina is, how real is. His jump shot. What level does the shot reach for him? He shot only thirty six percent from three in college. Which is fine. You got better over his four years there. But, but Danny, it seems to be really a matter of can this be can confide will be a great shooter can be a good shooter, or is he just going to be one of those average below average shooters that doesn't really warrant defensive attention? Right. And I think one thing that thighbone has over Gani green. I think something that kind of raises his ceiling in that regard is that he's a much better athlete. He's shown the ability to make place for others on occasion. And he's definitely has more wiggle and ball, handling ball, handling ability than Danny green has ever shown in his career, and in that regard. And also in the in terms of his just defensive genius. It kind of reminds me of Andrea go dolla on the guy finals. There's some plays that thighbone made with his hands just like just stripping balls away. And kind of prying balls loose, and really just like taking taking command of the defense from the perimeter, which is so hard to do at any level of the game. It really reminded me of some, some of those like defensive genius plays that Andrea doll has made over the past four years in the in the in the finals and the postseason with five I don't think he has the playmaking ability the ball, handling ability that you would all have. But he's again, he's an underrated passer within his role. He's a smart player who, again, can pass within the flow of the team concept. And sometimes that's just as important as the guy that can be a shot, create a for you want, guys can make the right play at the right time. And thighbone seems to be somebody who's going to be able to translate that from the next level moving onto the surge of Baca award which goes to the shot blocker who can roll to the rim and shoot deep twos. Maybe hopefully, hopefully, sometimes three pointers. I'm going to give this to. John do cabin galley. He is a big man from Florida state. The nephew of de Matombo. Yes. He is somebody to me that his shop locking ability. He got it from his uncle got it from Matombo. It's, it's an era inside. It is. And there's no doubt. His shop locking can translate to the NBA. He shot the ball very well last year. Florida state. Seventy thirty seven percent from the three point line seventy seven percent from the free throw line. Again, one of those guys as we hit on earlier who just plays hard. And that for me is one of those traits that I look for in guys that are going to be late first round draft picks early second rounders, I think Kevin Kelly is not a guarantee to be a long-term pro in the NBA, a guy who can be we set up top a guy who contributes at a high end in the playoffs he needs to solve as falling issue. We saw last round of the Western Conference files how that's still an issue for somebody. Like Zach Collins, who shows a lot of these similar strengths with his shop, locking in a shooting you and I charge all like him, Danny. Yeah. With the following. That needs to get better for cabin galley as well as a couple of other things defensive end with his positioning and his awareness, but he has a baseline of skills for him to be at least be warranted as a flight first round draft pick. Right. And look some of those fouling issues never go away. Sometimes you're just a wily defender who doesn't ever really process the game at a fast enough speed for it's kind of slow down for you like Sergio Bacchus still has moments where he makes boneheaded moves where he bites on pump fakes it's still part of his game. And he's you know in his what tenth season now. And that could be the case for cabin galley, but I don't know. I believe in a lot of his positives skills. He's, he's just a really, really talented. Instinctual rim-protector. And I can also kind of see him being kind of kevon looney type of project in the right system. So looney was drafted as a sort of new age forward, who can kind of do a little bit of everything at UCLA shot. Threes, kind of took guys off the dribble. He was a point guard in highschool, blah, blah, blah. But now when you think of looney what do you think of you kind of think of a new age, Kendrick Perkins? Right. It's like he's he's, he's okay interest on a stout defender who knows exactly what she can do and exactly what he's good at, but doesn't really do much beyond that. And I think there's value in that for a lot of winning teams, Kevin Kelly has some bad tendencies, and he can kind of play as though, you know, he's trying to be a guard, but those tendencies can be ironed out. If you put them in, you know. A winning system, pup potentially? You know, he he's, he's a big man who checks a lot of boxes. One of my favorite types of big men are the ones who could shoot free throws at high percentage. He's one of those guys and so maybe you take a risk on him, and maybe you, you think okay? We can kind of streamline his responsibilities on the floor. And suddenly, you're looking at a very, very high, you know high floor. Type of player Danny can can we agree that there is no award for a Klay Thompson, Kevin Durant, in this year's draft class. Yeah. I think we okay. Listeners we would love to know if there's a Fred van fleet or a, a Kyle Lowry, requent cook in this year's draft class, or any of the other players that we discussed so I use hashtag the corner, three on Twitter or Instagram, our center, send us a direct tweeter message about that because I'm curious what are your best comparisons to guys in the finals for players in this year's draft class, Danny? We have one last piece of news before we get outta here. Jonathan ev- Oni from draft express now ESPN reported this morning that there's a chance to Knicks could trade down from the member three pick their third, at least exploring offers including a package from the from the Atlanta Hawks who have the eighth in the tenth pick. What is your main takeaway from this piece of news regarding the Knicks thought process on the draft and perhaps their perception of RJ Barrett? At this point. It feels as though they're basically banking on Kyrian, Katie. And now they're just trying to build some depth around them like we, we've been we've been talking about RJ and his fit with a lot of these kind of. A lot of these teams at the top of the lottery, and how he might not be the perfect fit on any of these teams. Especially me in charge saying this, you very, you know, strongly defended his honor in the, in the last Memorial Day edition of the coronary. That's kind of the takeaway, I have your maybe they're just not looking for a dude, who's trying to be the next great. You know, to guard the next great, you know ball handling player when you have much better options in that regard in Katie, and carrier, and who have not signed. There you have not so feels like you know, you're, you're you're shopping for a baby that has yet to. You know. I mean you can have, you know, the due date it's July. I you know, the voyeur girl, you have an idea of one that babies coming if you're the Knicks, I personally, I think it makes a lot of sense for them, especially if they know katie's coming or they know Katie and Kyrie or Kemba Walker or whoever else is coming with him because I think Barrett can work, but I'd rather have two guys. Yeah, I mean of all the names we just mentioned. I think there's guys that can be found in this year's draft who can fit alongside star players like this isn't this isn't a great draft class. There's a lot of guys with question marks. But if you're the Knicks would you rather have camera should eight and, and, and Brandon Clark ten or Jay baron? I think you'd probably rather have the former in the two guys who can who can be out of rookie scale contracts, and build around to championship level players. I think that's the right formula and the right mindset for the Knicks to be taking here as the draft approach. By the way, like we saw this the past two years. We saw Atlanta trade down from three to five last year trading Luca for trae young and maybe that will be a poor decision, but we saw it, and then we saw at the year before, with Voss trading down from one to three with Markelle Foltz for Tatum and the kings pick that they have this year at number fourteen. So we've seen this two years in a row now. And it would not surprise me if we see it again, the team above the Knicks at number two davonte also reported, they wanted to schedule a workout with RJ Barrett RJ's, working out with the Knicks on, I think, June tenth gooney reported in Memphis was not able to get one with RJR. He declined to work out with the grizzlies. I wonder oh, Memphis is this is this Memphis, trying to stir the pot trying to raise value of the second pick, perhaps to force the Knicks to trade up, one spot, or is this then doing their diligence, or is this, then having questions about actually taking jobs ramp because I like. The fit with RJ Barrett's Goto scoring ability next to Mike Conley, as an overall leaning towards pass first point guard. Oh, yeah. I mean, I think we're in agreement in there. I think RJ Barrett. His perfect fit amongst the top four teams would probably be the Memphis grizzlies, given his ability to kind of create his own shot. And the fact that the grizzlies have really been looking for a solid wing for the past, like eight years now. But I do think I do think they're, they're doing their due diligence, like, why wouldn't you? You have the second pick in the draft. Wait so bear. It is trying to avoid this like, he's not perhaps, a Gamonal Cavani did say that there's still time for them to schedule a workout. But he did decline. The initial invitation to work out for the grizzlies to me this, there's reminds me of so much of the time that Kristaps Porzingis and his then agent, Andy Miller, steered him towards the Knicks. This title, be different, the Knicks cap space, the Knicks have a real significant chance of signing Katie, and somebody else different. If better arms. Yes. But for RJ Barrett, you gotta be thinking about what happens if they trade, you, I think Memphis on papers a great fit for him. Right. And if theoretically the Knicks select RJ Barrett, and they do the Andrew Wiggins thing, where they trade him in thirty days after he's eligible to be traded. You don't have a choice where you go. You don't have a choice. And with our RJ Barrett, you have at least the potential of going to a situation with the grizzlies that this. Supporting cast with a potential co-starring Jaren Jackson who perfectly complements you a both ends of the floor. He Jaren Jackson is a player like we discussed last year's draft class sharks at him, I believe, second on his board, a Jackson, somebody who can play next to anybody. And he can Hance RJ Barrett's ability as offensive player, and he can cover for some of his occasional limitations on defense. And perhaps, I think with that with that mindset that they have with that roster, they might call a veteran RJ playing in a winning situation. Maybe activates some of that defensive potential, maybe activates some of his playmaking ability that we saw at Duke on occasion when he had actual floor spacing RJ. Barrett has representatives on thinking really hard about actually giving the grizzlies a workout because that would be a great fit for him. Absolutely, danny. It's all we have time for today trae pod, and that was fun. Yeah, thank you so much for listening to the NBA show. Please give us a five star rating, and I tunes sure the podcast with your friends. Oh, by the way. Thank you for everybody who has donated or shared the dunk on cancer fundraiser that I've doing at during the NBA finals that, that's meant the world. It's been really cool to, to see that response so far. Thank you for checking that out. And again, thank you for listening to the ringer BA show. Check out our website. We have so much NBA finals coverage on, they're gone, and divined in a podcast last night is already up in your feed. 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"Why did you all be changed his nickname from the process to Hulu has live sports up because who paid them lots of money? It's the most blatant form of advertising ever seen watch live sports news. Your favorite teams the biggest games on sixty plus top channels. Follow your teams all season. No cable required. Live TV plan is required. Restrictions apply. Learn more Hulu dot com. Hello, and welcome to the hoop collective podcast. We have the team talking about the NBA. Joining me in Oakland is banned McMahon. We are on the warriors trailblazer series game. Twos tonight. And joining us from Boston site of trail of tears of angry feelings, and Terry. Rozier burns is Jackie MacMullan. Hello, Jackie O'Brien in Hello, Tim. Rica, everybody. Yes. Andrew HANA into Rica in Bristol. I will say this Jackie McMahon was so diligently working last night on his Damian Lillard feature that he declined to watch the game with me. He realized he stayed and worked, I had the tournament now like, you know, I hate to say it we had to turn round for game two because of a fear that there won't be a return to Oakland for the. For the Brookefield native. Gotcha info Gotcha. Yeah. You know, things he's told some stories about his childhood here in Oakland, where he said, he used to used to walk to oracle Rina's, not the Berina that I would think you could walk to very easily unless it was from the Bart station because it is it is bordered by. A highway and a railroad track. And like an industrial area. There's a giant Jackie the great across the street from work Lorena. Now there's a gigantic marijuana dispensary, that was never there before. Well, not, not. It didn't have a sign on it at least blunts called blunts and more. Okay. I'm visiting not visit them. It's an emporium going might have. I'm going to have research over there. I will say that I will say that hemp is come into our home though. No, not hamp. I'm sorry. The cannabis oil was come into our home for, for a certain marathoner, who's knees or not recovering, as well as we'd like so there, he gets its two thousand nineteen so we'll talk about less than what happened in Milwaukee. Boy, I thought that was on the t for the raptors should have been should have been, I felt like the goal for the raptors in this series, especially the games in Milwaukee would be get them to the last five minutes where you're where you're in contention. And let Kawhi try to win it for you, because I just think that the raptors are going to be a better half court team and the bucks under pressure and that was the exact inverse last night. The raptors under pressure in the half court couldn't get it done. The bucks defense was tip top and under the pressure Jaanus, even though he only had one basket in the fourth quarter. He made a couple of big plays in the half. Court and setting up the the the shot the play that pretty much clinched the game and clinched the greatest game brook Lopez's career. Jackie he drives any kicks it back to him. He hits about. I don't know. Maybe twenty seven footer is a long freeway. Yeah. I just I especially the way Kyle Lowry play last night. I like the raptors had to take that one. Yes, I couldn't agree more. And, and it's funny I was thinking about brook, Lopez because, you know way way back when I did that the Brooklyn nets story when they were just starting out and they just weren't going to win any games. And, and the big debate was should we trade brook Lopez? Because, you know, we might be able to get something form. But at the same time he's just this wonderful positive influence on our team. And, and of course, they didn't of trading him at the end two thousand seventeen to the Lakers, but I always thought that. That just he had a place in playoffs. And you know you just was on these teams that he really hasn't had the opportunity to show that now the three point thing we've discussed that already. That's just that's just an incredible. How he's managed that, that's really amazing to me. But I the thing that I thought about Brian was as good as Lowery was like at the very end of the game. And I know the stat was incredible that Tim Bontemps and over fifteen for everybody else in the fourth quarter are you serious? I looked tired to me, coli Leonard for all the load management looked exhausted. To me at the end of that game should have sat out game one. Oh, that's awesome. Nurse. You'd know you've you've scored McMahon when you get Jackie to laugh like that. I, I know it is funny BIC nurse denied that he thought his team was tired. But I thought that was kind of bogus McMahon. Well, look, I thought you know, I mean obviously the blazers have a long long, long list of problems and matchup issues with the warriors and talent difference and all that. But I thought they were tired and game one to to have that game seven down to the wire, and then have to travel turn around and play a game. One, you know that quickly. And the raptors actually today the, the blazers essentially was what a day and a half, turn around. I mean that's tough you hear about schedule losses in the regular season. I, I'd like to look up the well, I don't want to look up the numbers. I'd like ESPN stats information to, to show me the numbers. I gotta imagine teams that play a game seven and then travel to play a game one against a team that's had some time off. Don't have a real, good record. Denver for that series. Remember, they were the kings of game sevens and they'd come off their game seven series to to them. Play the blazers what Mike won't said to me. And I thought it was interesting said game one we didn't even have time to think about it. We just had to get on the plane. You know, we've set to just get ourselves organized and play he said, they're all it caught up to us engaged to. That's when we realize, wow, we've been playing a lot, this is you know and that was a game. They got they lost the loss game seven also, but that was interesting to me, there's always that there's always that thing teams pack in this situation. They pack for a week. You know, the Portland left in their home and went to Denver and said, we're gonna pack for three game trip because, you know, and so there is that sort of that mental thing that you do. And I just remember in this is just me personally. My coverage career the Cavs when the Brown won the MVP the first time they went eight no. The first two rounds of the playoffs completely. Demolished both teams that they played and they had to wait for Celtics magic seven game series. The magic one in Boston in game seven what the Dwight Howard, the peak of his powers. And then came to Cleveland two days later, same situation and stunned the Cavs beat them and took leverage on that series. So I've seen it happen before. But in general, I think you're right, McMahon that the recovery from that is difficult, in Toronto's case they were at home, and they did get an extra day off. So if there was a team that, you know, they didn't have they got two days off instead of the one if there was a team that was position to overcome, and it was Toronto. Plus it was an easy trip. It was, you know it's, it's an hour flight. From Toronto to Milwaukee. So it's, it's not like going from Houston to the west coast. It's a whole new country. Stop. So. I looked at states just quickly because I did look it up just to further my point for my friend brook Lopez. He has played in twenty three career playoff games. Ten of them this year, just to give you an ideal. I was gonna say Lopez stat. I love. I'm trying to find a Maliki Andrews. He grabbed eleven rebounds yesterday. That's his most since come on leakers stat read it. Since October two thousand seventeen oh my God. I didn't know that. He's, I raise a some foot Okri big man. Well, that was the knock-on him. So he always always he came into the league. He was. I remember a couple of things about his career one. They were they were trying to trade him for Dwight Howard, remember the nets that they were gonna get Howard and his agent. Pull the power play when he was a free agent. He was like, look, you're either you're gonna sign my guy right now. We're going to go somewhere else. And so they had to sort of give up on their pursuit of Dwight Howard and signed him to a max contract. And then, you know, he he had good numbers, but he never rebounded his rebounds per minute was always one of the lowest in the league. And it used to drive people crazy. Then he started to have foot injuries, and he was breaking the navicular bone. And he had the reconstructive surgery where they basically reposition your he'll to take pressure off the foot. And there's a history of those working. The one that worked on the I know the most so gals skits, they basically broke his, his heel and put it back into place. And he ended up having a career and we'll get to two all star games. And then there's Yao who they tried it on, and it did not work. You re broke the foot again and it was over so brook Lopez. I want to say maybe. Seven eight years ago, six seven years ago. Basically, it was like, well, if this surgery works, he'll be good. If it doesn't work his career is over. You forgotten you've forgotten one important navicular, bone guy. Joel embiid. Right. Joel embiid. Joel embiid. And that I guess we could say I guess we can say the jury is still out, but it looks to me, like, the, the, the foot isn't going to be as problem. It's going to be that knee. But we're off right. That's right. We did. So so not only has he survived. That's career-threatening injury. But he's now transformed himself to a stretch five and guys he's making three million dollars this year. We don't have to go over or fact that and, and as Bobby Marx pointed out didn't sign till July, seventeenth wasn't like he was like, oh, I really like like my fit in Milwaukee and all go there and I'll play for less money and invest long. Nobody wanted him for three weeks and in today's day and age July seventeenth signings. You know, seven eight ten years ago, weren't that didn't really afflict reflect on your player, now July seventeenth like adjust. To the current way, free agency, works as like August twentieth. You know, I it was in two thousand thirteen so there wasn't anybody who really even was all that interested in him. And so. Mcmahon how much money do you think in? And Milwaukee's gonna be limited in what they can pay have very limited rights, right? How much can walk you pay because they need to pay them all they can because to me after Middleton, I think Lopez is far and away their most important free agent to keep more so than Brogdon more so than merited. And we've talked about this like his one he doesn't rebound. Well, Janas the best rebounding Ford in the game. So that, that's fine. Everything he does so well to. Yeah, and everything Lopez does. Well stretches the floor protects the rim. I mean he is such a perfect complementary piece to Jaanus that I just can't imagine Milwaukee not doing everything within you know that France has power to keep him. And, you know, everything I can tell is, he's absolutely just happy as could be. The be playing with the bucks. And he is like, I haven't dealt with them a whole lot. Is your best? Yeah. I've been just a great personality, a great fit basketball locker room and got the walk off interview last night. How about that for an upset? And you know what guys I was laughing because member I told you once on this, then he talks really loud. He talk really loud post game. Like you never say to him. Hey, I hear this time. Your team has got PD's which team has PD's. Wonderful, even when things were going bad in Brooklyn. He, he was positive, which is why they grappled so much with trading it because he was someone that managed to them for the culture. They were trying to build. He was he was the ultimate pro. I'm having a good thing. It's a good thing. The Lakers got rid of him which, which which team on which player on his team has PD's. Andrew L kidding. You which one on our team has PD's. Oh break. For sure we know I didn't work in that. Well, then the one thing that Tim brought up that the Lakers could have used them in indeed mcmanamon 's year, one compilation of LeBron. He points out at the end of March. Rick Lopez had more threes made already than the Lakers needing three point scorer continues. Caldwell-pope brook Lopez's had one hundred and Eighty-one and Casey at the time had one twenty seven he finished with one fifty so filling. It probably could have used that. Well, that's we know that that's, that's beating. Dead transaction, but it'll be with the bucks. I mean, they, they do have technically they do have some cap space, but they're really not gonna functionally have it because I think they're going to re-sign Chris Middleton. And depending on what they do with Malcolm. Brogden. They may or may not be in the luxury tax. But if they give they give. If they if they give Lopez the full mid level, which would be, I think, around eight million dollars, they would hard cap themselves, and I just don't think that's smart for that team to do. So. I think the best they could offer him would be the taxpayer mid level, which, I don't even have we can we live list enjoy these from conference files. We start stripping their play. I'm gonna play. What if they won the championship Brian, you still think it's unwise to keep this court? Get. Oh, no, no, no. I think they're keeping together. I'm just saying that there's, there's not a lot of functional. There's not that much money to pay. Brooke is what I'm saying brogden ends up leaving, but we'll get to that. Well, he's restrict a he's restricted. So I will say this man. You guys are cavalier, vol, mallet now Nelken Brandon on president day. I don't want him gone for my team he's fine. I wouldn't either and has a different skill set for sure. But he's very attract great bills at the teams have have cap space, which is the issue. I just think he's going to, I think someone's going to put a big, big off on the table for them. And it's you know, and maybe the bucks ownership. Says he's got some red flags on his foot. The foot stuff. One thing I will say about this series. I know that this is sort of tiresome topic. But if you honestly is going to be allowed to travel. The raptors are not going to have a chance because they are letting him get away with, at least they were last night. They're letting him get away with pretty significant travels, as he goes to the basket. And. It was driving the raptors absolutely insane last night, I, I was paying attention to the post game to Nick nurse to see if he would say, anything he did not smart and that, you know what I thought was interesting this game Brian early on, especially in, I'm watching and and Janas gets position pretty easily. Goes in does that little spin move, and there's somebody there waiting for him and it really threw them off in the first in the first several minutes at his game they were double double, and sometimes even triple time teaming him once he got into the paint. And when he went to go make that signature spin, move, somebody was right there often a very big wall of Mark Saul. And I thought, wow, they've found a good way to slow him down. But, but then he just was like, all right. I'm just gonna use my euro step or step, sir. To you. And, and I'm gonna just plough right through and see how I go. And guess he went pretty well, here's my question for you guys. If you're the raptors at you concerned about Colli Leonard's morphine into a volume shooter. That's not a particularly he looked it up. He up before this season the postseason the most he ever shot in a game. We averaged around sixteen sixteen point three sixteen point four shots a game. He's close to taking twenty two shots at game here and not at a particularly high percentage. Do you if you're if you're the raptors do you worry about that or not just asking, I found the raptors I worry about how hot and cold, that Lowery Gosol and surge of Bacchus seem to be all three of them have nights where they are all contributing and playing at a high level, and they look terrific. And then they all have nights where they completely go into hibernation, and like that's really hard. So like last. Night. They got these couldn't get anything out of the sauna Baca in a bucket was great and game seven and this is where they are. And so, so I think part of it is, is, like, look, I, I don't know necessarily even even Seok them. Has gone hit and miss at least offensively. So I don't know. Part of it is, I think Hawaii's like look. I know what I can do every night. I'm going to try to be the mainstay, and that's one of the things that are just they're very inconsistent offensively which is worrisome. But. Really let them down their bench. Let them Dallas then, you know friends land fleet. One of my favorite players, keep waiting keep waiting. I know he had injuries early and it's just feels a little bit. Like last year for him. He's had a great year. Really? You know so here the volume stuff with choirs really been these last two games. Thirty nine shots twenty six shots as the two most he's taken in the play offs are guys Siachen is. He's gone from. A star to a guy who hadn't been that officiant in these last in these last few, they need to get Siachen rolling again. And then maybe quiet didn't have to shoot it such volume. Conserve. But that's just me. I think he's got something going on there. We'll see. We'll drop us up something there. Okay. So moving out to the west series, there's a new thing happening in the NBA. There's an arms race of sorts as kind of secret unless you're actually at these games. 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There was a pretty significant back and forth between their coach and their, their players about their defensive strategy and game one. They pretty much flat out contradicted themselves. And we reported on it, but it got zero traction or interests. So what the what the blazers elected to do to use? The terminology was drop on, on, on screen on scrums unscreened. So the first play of the game. The, the warriors very basic game plan point, they put NS cantor in a pick and roll, and Steph curry came off of the screen and Kanter instead of stepping up or hedging or trying to do anything, just literally stayed back at the foul line, and stuff, took a shot where he was opened by eight or nine feet, and he missed that shot but they were like, oh, is that how they're going to play? And you know, this is the old can't play canner. He's just he's one of the worst defending big men in the pick and roll in the NBA has been for a long time. And so, what are we start? Playing Steph curry and Klay Thompson. But what they basically elected to do was, and by the way, it wasn't just Kanter. The same thing happens that Collins was out there that Collins played way back and stuff. You know, not all of his three pointers came off of pick and rolls. But I. Did was it five or corner, according to Terry Stotts he hit five threes? He said they ran twenty Steph pick and rolls. He scored on five of them. They were all threes and Terry admitted yesterday after he got testy about it. It is post game press conference. I he apologized to our pal Anthony Slater, Who Wasn't There to accept the apology. But and then he admitted that they need to as he said revisit the strategy that they used against the pick and roll the players were wanting to revisit it on the bench during the game. So. And you know what? What starts point was is the three quarters. The warriors had only scored I think seventy seven points and they were they were seventy seven seventy one after three. I think that was a number and he was, like, look, that's a manageable number. And we'll take our chances. Of course. The warriors scored. I think thirty nine in the fourth and he pointed out yesterday to that they scored thirty nine in the fourth and Steph did not score out of a picture on the fourth. So his point was kind of a kind of dance around to make the point of look, if you think pick and roll, defence was our only problem. We've got some other things to figure it out. But that's something that is that is, but that is a big problem. They have to figure out. They can't let Steph shoot into or step into, you know, warm up shots. And honestly, I you know, the whole camp play Kanter thing. Yes, they use the same strategy. Zach Collins he is capable of playing that. In a lot of different ways. I think they're going to have to play that Collins at center. A lot of minutes to have any hope in the sues. Here's what else they did. They double teams Kenner, a lot when he got the ball in the interior because kanter's Kanter scored a lot Kanter is knee. There's stuff that he does really well. He's, he's a good score. He's a elite offensive rebounder. He's a tough guy but he's not a good passer either. He's only average one assist a game in his career. So one of the things that they were doing is, like, look, we're going to double this guy because we wanna take him away wanna take that option away, and we don't think he can beat the double team. And I don't have the stats. But I in front of me, but I do know he was double teamed more in the first half of that game then he wasn't any full game in the entire postseason. I don't have the final stats, but they I think they double team six times just in the first half alone. So that was definitely tragic. And these are the things that happen in series, the ebb and flow, they'll be more ready for that stuff. But you're not gonna win a playoff game in Oakland when Steph great makes nine three pointers. I mean you're also you're also not gonna make playoff win a play again anywhere if you shoot thirty six percent and you should twenty five percent from threes and your best player takes twelve shots and over twenty one time twenty one time, like Lillard have more. He can't have more turnovers in buckets that ain't gonna work. Yeah. That's, that's like really glaring. So we allude thing is he's to me. He looked low energy now, the retort that I got to that, when I brought it up to some blazers people was well, they were throwing the kitchen sink at him. They were hard doubling and we just didn't have. We didn't have good space, even when they had lineups out there with shooting. They didn't have good spacing. Seth curry not that Seth curry is a guy who you're really going to super rely on. He only was I think one of eight or one of seven he. They're also not going to win the Seth until we can get out play by Steph but not by coin cook. That's right. And call him didn't shoot the ball. Well either. I mean you know they were they were a hard time finding good things that the blazers didn't game one Marcus smart Klis at seventeen points. There you go. That's true. Rodney hood had seventeen points with didn't are. How many points Rodney hood have? Seventeen I think you're right. It's been amazing off phys Ed amazing. Yeah. That was really good. So the interesting this happened with the warriors, I have a story that's posted right now about this. They're having a blast playing without Durant. There's way more guys involved. There's ninety ten guys playing there's ten guys scoring Quinn, cook, who was nailed in both to the bench. The first couple of rounds is kidding bigshots, getting bigshots Yoenis. She Repco is hitting kidding bigshots Kvant loonies entire situation has opened up. They even may even start playing Damian Jones who hasn't played in five months because of injury. He may even start getting some more minutes or getting some minutes in game one. This was a stat that was. Unearthed by our stats and info the warriors had three isolation's for the entire game three isolation while that is the lowest of any game in the Steve Kerr era playoffs or regular season. It is, basically, the type of basketball that Steve Kerr wants to play and that Stephan Klay were meant to play. They are having a blast playing this way. But and back to being arguably the MVP league in these last couple of games. Yes, it would dollar has he had a five three pointer game in the first game in the game in Houston. They play without them. He's getting open looks because teams are forced to throw. The one thing that didn't happen in game one the, the, the rockets double team Steph and it resulted in zero point half. But also as alternate go dollar hitting five threes. And then also scored thirty three the second half is Terry stats reminded the world after that's true, but he scored zero in the first half, although he did the foul trouble. So the but yet they're all staying on message like you go straight down the line, clay Steph, Draymond Kerr Quinn, cook their QuickBooks, that guy who couldn't get on the court and yet is waxing poetic about how wonderful Kevin Durant is they have absolutely stayed on message to make sure that they do not make any. Concept that they are somehow in a better place without Durant. Boga choose. We want who go off message. You know what I haven't talked about it? That's yeah. It can be a difficult experience. But, but, you know go knocking on that on that door. So, so. It's amazing how the I think there's tears to full, right? Because one, the reality is that they may need Durant in this postseason. They hit a rough Pat Bruce. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. They may need Durant. Of course, they need to rent stop this just stop it. I mean, he was allowed to be paid the last two years. They will Jonah's or Kawhi Leonard assuming they get to the finals agree. I'm just selling right now. They're all walking on air twenty seven and one in the last twenty eight games. They've played with Steph and without Kevin. And so I'm just saying like they're all staying on message. So not only do do you have the reality that they're that they're probably going to need him. But Secondly, of course she's a free agent. And he's a guy who's sensitive to these sorts of things. So they have the I don't know if there was a team wide memo or was just unsaid, but they have to a man, except in fairness McMahon, I have not asked bogut to a man done nothing but praise Kevin, which they should the guy is awesome. And he. Awesome. Before he got hurt. He was he was averaging almost forty a game. Yeah, it was all played in the playoffs right? And it's this is an this is an kyri situation where he was barking at his teammates, and you know not sharing the ball, and this is just guy that got hurt. That's that seems to be the best player in the postseason every season. So but it's just an unusual position for team to be in appreciate that. So good shape death. But. So Jackie I wanted you to what did you think the way the lottery went down the other gosh, I was so excited because the day before and around horn I declared that if there were any basketball gods. And there was karma karma that woman, pelicans should get that number one pick, and I'm very thrilled for them that they did. I also think, and, you know, this Brian, there's been a lot of angst the last few months, especially this year among the small market teams in their owners, and I've heard it, and I'm sure you have to that system that this revenue sharing system is broken. And that the small market teams have no chance. And I think this was probably, I don't know. But if you gave Adam silver truth serum, he'd probably is okay with this now. I know you like your stars at big markets. That's always been the case. You know, New York, Chicago. That would have been great the young corn Phoenix, but there's some there's certainly sympathetic Justice to this. And just the drama of it, you know, watching the LA all of a sudden, you're, like, whoa, wait. Wait a minute. I was thinking I wasn't even thinking about the Lakers, and I'm like, wait. They're in the top four. Where were they before? And I had to go look and say they were eleven and you know, you're thinking about the bulls in the sons and the Cavs heart bleeds for them a little bit, because, you know, couldn't have gone any worse for them. That's for sure. Yeah, I always the four minutes. I think it's usually a four minute commercial break. But the four minutes between the establishment of the, the losing teams in the lottery and the winning teams every year is some of the most intense for minutes of the entire NBA year and this one was amazing because we had four teams instead of three and we had the two biggest markets and the two smallest markets, who were water, right? And I am very surprised at Zion has not signed a shoe deal yet because, you know, it's hard for me to handicap the field because Nick, the Paula has I believe said that there could be like seven or eight bidders and maybe just the bidding with all the Chinese companies will drive the price so high that the location will really not matter. But the difference in a shoe deal between being in a market like New York rela- and being in a market like New Orleans or Memphis dramatic. I mean, let's just be real. And so, I would. Why, why? Why, why? Oh, oh, yes, absolute what Russia Rosen, sue deal. Well, what's, what was LeBron shoe deal in Cleveland? Yes. Well, but the Brown did the deal before he got to. He did the deal before lottery because I is bigger than zinc ion it's going to be one of these guys. I'm going to say that is bigger than any team that he plays for. They may be shocked in Orlando shack in Orlando. Shack didn't sell that many shoes it may be true because big monosso shoes. Okay. It may be true that it doesn't make much of a difference. But I promise you. It's better for marketing have to be New York versus New Orleans. I promise you that it is. And so I thought, boy, the perfect time for Zion to do a shoe deal was in that four minutes should they should have said everybody gets your seal binding. Bids in right now because it was a fifty percent chance of New York or LA and a fifty percent chance of the two Smalls markets and. You know what's the over under on deal? What's the over ownership deal? I see. This is the thing McMahon. I have no one hundred million McMahon. Here's the thing. Here's the thing basketball shoes are not popular right now. Shoes are not selling the they did. Seven eight years ago. Now, I can't explain to you, why they're not popular. I, I don't have my pulse on the fashion. I just, you know, people are not buying basketball shoes to not play basketball in, like they were earlier, even the Jordan brand, which is the just a gold standard of all time basketball shoes. Their sales just are not that good relative to what they have been. Trust me, nobody's getting fired. But the, the bidding for shoot heels has cooled off to that. You know, one thing that's happened is Steph Curry's under armor, shoes, have not sold that well. As popular as he is that, you know, under armor stock has been getting destroyed and hammered, because part of the reason is our best while she was just aren't selling. So it's not the greatest time to look for a shoe deal that said, this guy is bring so much promise in is so electrify. He's probably the most bankable. Kid to come into the NBA since LeBron in terms of the shoe market, and LeBron had three bidders, NICD Apollo. I think has said there's going to be seven or eight for him. I'm just surprised. He hasn't gotten a shoe deal yet. But we'll move past the market. That's not important. Ultimately, whether he gets sixty million or whether he gets a hundred million does not gonna change the NBA. It's to he's still going to be filthy. Rich. The thing that's interesting to me. Jackie is beyond the first pick. Knicks at three Lakers at four Celtics go from having like a chance at the ninth and fourteenth picks. If I believe, of I'm not mistaken that if, if New Orleans had just moved up in Memphis, didn't that by Memphis, moving that one spot back the Boston would have gotten the pick. The bus was the topic, but believe me Brian, they're thrilled. They didn't want. All okay. This is where I want to talk about this is what I want to talk about. It's I understand why Boston is happy because Memphis, probably headed into into tanking, I think getting job Mirant is probably going to get the half time calming. They need four they absolutely have to now. So the pick is top six protected next year. And then unprotected the you're after if you're Boston, and you're looking at maybe getting the knife pick this year versus maybe an unprotected Memphis, pick when it may be back way, high up there in two years. I agree. But in terms of their trade package for Anthony Davis. I don't think it helped them. And here's why. Because there's interesting okay as if they're competing against the Knicks and the Lakers. If I were Lakers. But wait, you know that the that the normal doesn't want to trade him to the Lakers, and we'll do everything in their power not to, I agree you and I both, by the way, why not the clippers but go, let's just go through this. If you are, are the pelicans. Okay. And you're, you're looking at your trade package evaluations. You know that if you make a deal with the Knicks you know, you're getting RJ Barrett. Right. There's no question about it. You know that's the player you're going to get you're not getting a nebulous. Well, this could be good in two years, and they have some value. Maybe it'll be four in two years. Maybe it'll be seven next year. You know that you are trading for RJ Barry. You know exactly what you're getting. Whereas the, the best pick that the Celtics can offer you're not going to get that certainty. So I think it I think the Celtics, I'm happy. I don't think they've helped them. Okay. I'll think I'll stay in with ugly, but your premise is incomplete. What else are you trading for what else are you giving them for Anthony Davis? Okay. Right. So I'm just saying that I don't think that the that the lottery helped the Celtics in their pursuit of Anthony Davis. I disagree. I disagree. And I don't think it hurt them because they still have a pick either top six protected or. By the way, they have other picks to we won't get into all that we won't take. Everybody down there at all. But they still have assets real essence living breathing acids. Like Jason Tatum. Jalen Brown to Gordon Hayward. If you're so inclined to go along with picks that rate, but but they had that before. So I think the Knicks advanced like I'm just saying, like I saw some people who are really down, including Stephen who practically needed to have a psychologist brought in and I realize some of it was perfect for television. But I thought the Knicks actually came out. Okay. They had a much better chance of falling outside the top three of them. Staying in the top three they get a top three pick in a draft. A lot of people think breaks after the third pick. And they, they do that say. Say to New Orleans. We this pick will deliver you are RJ Barrett. This is this is who you this is who you will have. If you go with this pick and I just think that that's somewhat compelling. And as you line because to me, though. To me an mkx. Van we'll talk about the clippers and the second to me. If you are if you are New Orleans, and you're looking at those three teams. You look at the, the Celtics package, which is probably Marcus smart. I would say probably two first round draft picks the Memphis pick. I think would have to be included. I would certainly ask for the fourteenth pick in this year's draft. And they, they give it to you don't mean Marcus, Marcus smart and Jason Tatum of that package. New York could offer. The number three pick the picks that they got from Dallas what, what, what years were those picks twenty twenty one and twenty twenty three of unprotected and top ten protected. Okay. I guess they could also get some Knicks picks. Although I think the Knicks future looks pretty we'll look pretty, you know, they've got some interesting young prospects. Yes. Mitchell robinson. Kevin knox. Dennis Smith junior. Okay. None of them are Jason Tatum. Jaylen brown. What if the Celtics offer both Jason Tatum, and Jalen brand? Well, then you do the deal. That's a five second decision. But how can the Celtics possibly offer that? Well, I don't know that they can or that they would by the way, I'm not speaking with any inside knowledge. I'm just what I'm saying is, it's all about how many assets you have. And if you if you put high value on our Jay baron, I, I don't know what New Orleans thinks about that. And you like him that much. That's great. But, but then in terms of additional assets because it's not just one. It just can't be. Too good. A player, you've got to give me who can make the best package. The Lakers, I just still don't see how it works. I think the Lakers terrific, the Lakers can't make the best offer in LA. Right. So, so the offer the offer that so okay McMahon so the offer that the Bruce could make is go ahead. So I don't know. I mean, I haven't looked at numbers to match it up, but start off with Herrell eulogise Alexander sham it and picks. And they've got that Miami unprotected pick that's got a chance to be really valuable. Yeah, they're picks aren't as good as what could be offered by the other teams. But their quality of players are pretty good. Zander's worth more than the fourth picking this year's draft. He will give Selleck Sander and sham at ARC's. They're like draft picks because they're under contract for three more. Yeah. There are year into a rookie deal and they're, they're proven commodities. Like they were good players on a team that took the wars six games. Right. And I'll tell you like if you're if you've got Zay on, and then you basically draft your starting point guard. By the way, if you got going to sell Zander would also clear the way to trade your holiday. They could probably play toward their could play together. Yeah. Yeah. See, I think this Bryant. If I may, I think the reason why this was a good draft for the Celtics is the Knicks didn't get that. That to me is a big difference. If die in one incident is playing in New York, Anthony Davis might say you know what? Maybe I will go there. But then they have no way to get him. They have know waiting to. Here's my retort. I don't think that the Knicks would have traded Zion under any circumstances. I don't either. I don't either. What I'm saying is, if you're Anthony Davis, and you still can leave after one year wherever you get traded. Do you, are you feeling good enough about what the Knicks have? If you go there, I think the answer I don't think especially if you trade through third pick. Here's the way. I the way I view it. I've you it as if if the Knicks had gotten the number one pick. The Knicks would have been out of business for Anthony Davis because they would not have traded the pick for Anthony Davis. So the Knicks would no longer bene- trade action. But because they didn't get the number one pick because they got the number three pick. They are now squarely in the Anthony Davis business in competing with the Celtics. So like I said, I don't I don't think that the lottery night. I don't think it knocked out of the box. I just don't think I think the Celtics chance of getting the Davis where reduced by some percentage on lottery night. And I think the pressure on the Celtics is going to be to include Jason Tatum before they're going to have an answer from Kyrie Irving and well that's sad. Really? That's that is such a difficult scenario. The timelines do not match up the time of the draft the time line of free agency. Don't match up and you'd like to have clarity from Kyrie Irving. But Jackie do you think that he will be willing to give that clarity to the Celtics? Well so good. Yeah. I think he could. But let's see, you know, we just have to see I mean, it was, so it's a lot. I think I said this last time there's a long time between when Kyrie Irving last played and that, that June twentieth that date, there's a long time in between. We'll, we'll learn more about Al Horford opting interrupting out, they'll be some other things that happen. What do you intend to do? I think else going to have to I think he's going to have to take the thirty million. And here's why I think people are very, very interested in how Horford and they should be because he's one of those really those players that would help any team, but there's such a rich class. He has to wait people aren't going to go for health or for. I don't think not with kyri and Durant, and all the others. We don't mean to name all the free agency yet again out there. So I think I think. Yeah. Likes it here. I think he would like to stay here. And I think but again, I haven't talked to him or as agent Jason talked to recently. There's always the possibility that he could opt out with the intention to stay with us. I'm here shorter deal. Well, that's to me makes the most sense. And I think that's something he'd be amenable to doing. There's no bad blood here with Al Horford me of, of all the problems. The Celtics had Al Horford was not one of them. I mean he's only problem was available when he didn't play they suffer. So, so just real quick, the Lakers. There was a great moment for them. They had I think nine percent chance of getting into the top four, they hit they will they now have an asset that is tradeable or they have a guy that they can draft that will be nice prospect for them. I don't know if they can get somebody that can materially change them right away. I don't to be honest with you. We'd have to have Jonathan Cavani Mike Schmitz on here. I can't really speak on these guys. I mean, I watched Culver from Texas Tech play. I watched the Virginia kid play hunter. Ideal, but he saw garland play. Nobody saw lately played finding put I don't, I don't think about other than he went to Vanderbilt and hurt his knee, and then barely played, so. I just, I just don't know if it helps them for Anthony Davis, because whether the warriors whether the Lakers want to. Admit this or not Brandon Ingram. Unfortunately, his value has diminished because of the blood clot. And this is what people in this is what executives in the league, you're telling me, and whether that's true or not his agent may disagree. The Lakers may disagree in fact, may not even be true. He may end up being healthy the rest of his career his has diminished, and I and maybe a year from now, if he has real healthy year, and everything is fine that it'll be completely different. But. So it's not even the same offer that they were making before. So yes, they're the pick that they were offering has improved dramatically. But if you're the pelicans, you have the prime asset in this trait, even in this lottery, even if, if Lakers, pick had moved up to four and the pelicans didn't move up, and they were still sitting at eight. I think it was a different conversation, but because the pelicans also moved up and now have on. I think that, that jumping of the fourth pick has even less interest, especially if they can also trade for the number three pick, if they really wanted to and get, you know. A lot of people think is a better player and. Even that's even independent of the bad blood that exists between the organizations. Right. So let me ask you this question, though, because, you know, David pretty well, and I haven't weighed in with David yet, although I will like everybody else. I'm sure of this idea that they keep them. And wait till the February deadline. Try to give them some few months with Zion and see if it'll work. What do you make of that? I mean, I know I know that Anthony Davis campus said, look, no. We're out. We're never going to stay. But just what do you what do you think of that? That's the Kobe Bryant strategy, which is what they did. The Lakers did with Kobe. They ended up trading power and they made the finals. David is an optimist by nature. This is a guy who was completely convinced that the Cavs are going to win the finals, and they were down three one. And I think I think it really comes down to this. Jackie if they like their trade offers they make a trait, if they don't like their trade offers. I think it's legitimate possibility that they could wait because they I think Davis unless I'm wrong. I'd have to ask Bobby marks on the rules. But I think that Davis can sign that extension any time until June thirtieth of next week, that's correct. I think that is correct. So, like they just sitting there waiting for him. Right. You know, they could have they could have a, a giant winning streak and or they could get the fourth seat, or something next year. And Dave's Quebec, you know what or if things go south, and you and you get to January and Davis is still unhappy and still wants to get moved. You could trade him at the deadline. I agree what you'd be getting. Would be less, but you would have even yourself an opportunity to make it work. I don't know that he loses that much value because whoever's trading them it's not like they're saying, oh, well, you know, we didn't get we didn't get the first few months of the season. Whoever's trading him at that point is trading to keep him for a long long time. Like I don't the one thing is, maybe you knocked the potential like okay? See Paul George scenarios out of the bidding. You know the teams who say we'd take them on a one year rental and, and try to convince maybe you knock those teams out. But there you're still going to have multiple bidders. I so I don't know that, that the values going to decrease much, if any yeah, the immediacy and the urgency to trade him by February. You always lose leverage when you have to make a deal instead of want to make a deal. That's you also know you will have your draft order, you know, who is in this draft. And you say okay if we're making a deal with that team. And we know we can get this player. Whereas if in February you won't know that certainty, I think, has value and I in Jackie like your point about that. Memphis, pick that has been made to me, very strongly about why that picks is, is now better than it was. Better than it was four days ago. Because. Channels. It can go, but I look at it as I know I can get RJ Barrett. I know I'm getting and I just so let's let's, let's look at it this way, let's just say for argument's sake, for whatever reason, let's say, Kyrie irvings already told them, I'm out. And now do you still want Anthony Davis because your whole selling point to Anthony Davis was, we got your boy, kyri here? You guys you know, you'll be a great one two punch. We can win it all at the two of you. So if we just play along say, alright, Kyrie's gone, and which I'm still not one hundred percent convinced of, but that might well it's late in the podcast because we have to go to do this, but remember, Anthony Davis may not be the only star player who's available by trade with anyway. He'll be the best star player. He's right by, so that's one thing and the other thing is if you're the Celtics, and you decide to hang onto Jason Tatum, Jaylen Brown and the guys you have going for because you think you can do something with that. Then that pick becomes valuable, maybe in a different way. That's all. All right. Well, we've got you going McMahon. And I have to not do is. Yeah, I gotta go get my dad at the airport. Douglas Arthur Boyle graduating from the university of New Hampshire on Saturday. Very big day rats to Doug all. In my graduate, too. Mcmahon's graduated from shady grove elementary next week. Wow. Linley. What a great name. I love that name Tim. It's a great name for dawn. Film. You know you're gonna miss game five for that for that graduation. Is that right? Mcmahon. That is accurate. Yes. What if there is no game? Five all miss it come on blazers. Give us a series and McMahon. Mcmahon missed the game. All right. Thank you. The collective podcast. We'll talk to you again next week. Who knows what happened league between now and then.

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Digital Strategy and Storytelling with Jason Falls (#75)

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Digital Strategy and Storytelling with Jason Falls (#75)

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So listen, today's guest is a digital strategist. Keynote speaker thought leader he is co author of two books one of which no bullshit social media. The all business. No had guy to social media marketing hero back in two thousand eleven with Eric Deckers. And I just love the titles. I had to say, but Jason falls. He calls it like he sees Jason has been helping brands connect with with mine audiences for about twenty five years. He's a thought leader in the social media and digital marketing space. Vas leads digital and social strategy for cornet a full service advertising agency based in Lexington Kentucky is a dynamic and entertaining public speaker. And he is fantastic on the show. And I'm so excited to have mine here, but he's also widely known for founding. Social media explorer one of the top. Social media, marketing blogs in the world. This guy's got it all at I'm so excited to get you Jason. So let's get to that story. Thanks for. Thank you again Jason for taking time to chat with the storytellers network and bring some race up to the audience. Appreciate it very much. Glad to be here. I'm I'm impressed. You ask people overlook me when they talk about business to goofy. And I love I love goofy. So we fit well, I'm from southern Michigan. You're from the south. So I think it just kinda ties somehow, right? Michigan kentucky. So we were talking before we before we hit record. I've been following you for quite a few years you as I said my intro. You are probably most widely known as the founder of social media explorer. So as a as a digital strategist what you call yourself now. But also the social media expert, you know, you've been doing this for quite a while you've seen this world evolved. So that's why invited John loved expertise. But you're also an my is you're storyteller. Do you consider yourself on his well, I do when I introduced myself people, I usually say our writer by craft and then, you know, a writer by trade, I guess. Right, right. About trade is say a writer, my craft that appear trade. That's what I learned to do. Now, I became more of writer, but you know in the evolution to digital marketing. Started in PR and branched out there PR at journalists. It's all the same thing. It's all storytelling. It's all creating time. Content raining a narrative along that takes your audience point, eight point be whether that audience someone who is a customer of brandy writing for you know, reading information about product service, or whether it's telling more of a swim the'real story that that can get them. Inspire thing about something it might be midgely to product. But it's also if you writing fictions the same thing telling narrative and trying to urge this audience along persuaded to keep turning that page of it's kind of what we're doing the digital space now brace, and as that's still powerful today. Even though people like Mark Schaefer, say we're in this rebel. Where the customer doesn't care. You know, we had the Super Bowl where these great big ads. Come on people already bashing them saying they were terrible. Like are. We just an echo chamber or is actually still working. Well, I think I think it's a little bit of both. I mean, I think there's there's always been an echo chamber to degree. It's more amplified now because there's much bigger space echoes. But but I do think it still affective. I mean, you we still have relationships we may not think of it as relationships with may not think of it as well. This brand speaks to me there, my friend. We we may not think of it in that sort of anthropomorphic wave he will. But we still had relationship with brands. We still want information from them we slow reliant on to teach us things. And so whether it is overtly branded content advertising message, or whether it's just a useful wa- post that you happen to find that all I can this on the website of a company that might sell his day. It's no there. It's still useful. It's just a matter of having your rand or your business net to your audience or your perspective off. It's in a way that's relevant for them for the on. So that they build that trust. They do start thinking you as a trust resource. Those are the the companies. We like to do business with companies that we we think, hey, trust these guys whether it's because you know, a person that company or whether it's because you see her compli why get it builds that trust that eventually to you converting to become fest. And you think that connection that trust? Do you see that coming aloft from story that what kind of drives that I think it's one thing that can drive? I don't think it's the only thing. I I think obviously there are plenty of people out there who trust brand comes from the fact that they are the cheapest product in that category. They're on a budget. There are people that drive trust in a brand because they're involved in their community, and they don't necessarily do anything online in terms of content or storytelling, but they give to big brothers. And that's a thing that's support them. And then there are other brands and other customers out there who think you know, I really enjoy a reading. The J Peterman catalog. I really enjoy. You know, the videos that Toyota posts online or the four posts online with their racing teams. I really enjoy you know, the content that I get from from influencers that are involved with the brands that I liked there's a there's a high school principal here in legend techie who has carved out over million dollars various social networks, and he started out doing videos end of the school before anybody came to or on snow days or before teachers meaning to work, and he did his little clever fun videos about here's what principles do in. When nobody's at school and involved into school or made him you can't record those in the school building. If you're gonna make money off of so he now he records them in the front seat of his car with dashboard game before he goes into the building. But he's built up this huge audience online. And the reason I bring him up is back in August when we were in back schooltime finals smart reached out innocent, we likes to partnership, and he had some sponsor posts for Michael saying, hey, where you know. I get great deals on back to school supplies recommended. So it's a paid or it was an obvious paid endorsement, but his audience loves him so much that they're going to the trust. They haven't him is going to bleed over onto Michael's because he said, hey, this is a couple of actress. So those stories can bridge that gap. But it's something only. Sure. Do you think the school got it wrong and tell him he couldn't do that? Well, yeah. Because I mean bureaucracy, you know, it's all bullshit, but different out, but but at the same time with really funny and ironic about these later like a couple of months later, the superintendent of the school system did a video with him in his car in the parking. I mean, they've had Ignatz of humor about it. They haven't prevented him from doing which I think is good. Because that's what would have happened in years. They was you. You can't make money before a principal and two now they're like, well, you should monetize your time on onto property on the ground, and that's probably a good system wide policy for, you know, not just online insolence yours. But you know, teachers doing other things there were times. I guess I understand it. But I pretty much anti-bureaucracy. Anyway. So yeah, I think they screwed up. Yeah. It seems to me like putting putting that that influence to work could bring in other students could bring in grants or whatever. I mean, it can be such a positive thing in general. I guess it's interesting about for me. Anyway, what's interesting about social media about web about web traffic in general in his digital sphere that we're in gosh, we can all I say, we can all not everybody. But we can all be influencers. We can put that to use for. In so. We're all influencers to a degree. I mean, even those less, you don't necessarily publish online back when air dickers-, and I wrote our first book together, which is several years old now one of the things we talked about it. There was a word of mouth and influence and his wife, Tony at the time was not an online influence or she didn't have the audience. But the she bought certain type of Carr rejected which was now she bought her type of car and influenced her parents, and like her brother neighbor or something to buy the same type of car. So it's not it. You don't have to have huge audience to be an influence or you just have to trust. And so I think that something gets lost in all this influence of marketing talk is. And you you're starting to hear people talk more about micro influencers report, they are. But I think that's something does get lost in these conversations influence, not necessarily a big audience. It's just that trust. You built with whomever. It is that you have as whether it's just your family at the dinner table, or it's, you know, a million people online because you clever videos on YouTube. Well in to me. So I I love to be on core. Answer questions on letter. Nobody ever read them or cares. I love doing it. One of the questions. I see keep coming up is about influence or marketing. And I keep saying, no, that's that's bullshit as usual, right? It's not infants markets word of mouth marketing. We can all be influencers by the word of mouth that we use this kind of and certainly would amount can be digital. But I don't even think that the millennials are posible in generation when we're young we care about the celebrity that has the whatever that we want right. But I don't think it's interesting. I don't think it's a generational thing. I think it's just an age thing. And I think the more that we poured into those word of mouth type marketers. I mean, you know, Jay, baron eleven call talk triggers word of mouth marketing, all these things. I mean, it's. Yeah. Anyway. So that's that's a tangent. But I mean, that's that's what I see. But it's good tangent. And you're right it, and I've actually tried to kind of crystallizes a little bit because. When j Daniel book, actually, don't really talk about influence. Midget once or twice, but it's not a deep guy, which I found a little peculiar because in my mind influence or marketing is one of the ways we only way, but one of the ways that you can actually start. The fires sparked it comes word. Because you do you have a talk trigger you have great content or great product were some something that's going to make people talk about you need someone to turn around and Denver's person. Well, would you rather start with one person Intel three people or one person can tell three thousand or one person delta thirty so influence remarking in my mind is the spark that you put down on the wig that starts the fire birdie that leads to all of the fireworks going off rant. And if you right is you might three or four weeks at the same time. You can you have that fast? Now, obviously, it all goes back to whether it's talk trigger or whether it's product or service. What is you still have to have good products service? You still have to have all those things in a row, otherwise the buzz about who's going to be about the clever thing, you did it's going to be short-lived. Nobody's. Remember, your brand your product just like Super Bowl ads? Those were talk triggers those are influence, our marketing instigators, but if you if you remember back last night there were a couple commercials that were really funny. But can you remember what brand for those are the ones who didn't do a great job of lighting that fire that leads to success the ones that you? Remember, you're like, oh that was funny. Got me thinking made me tell people about the commercial. It might lead them to be curious about that. That's good. I like the idea the micro influencers are not just like that. I had to buy Cardi B. Anyway. So I man we I just this. I'm like throwing out the questions just they're gone because this is a conversation. So again, when we were talking off line, we talked a little bit about those early days of the social media and Marken how I came together. And how it kind of lichens to podcast now. But I wanna go back those early days for you. What was it like back in two thousand eleven when you wrote that book, which by the way, noble bullshit, social media, love the title. What was that like back in those early days for you? When when you found, you know, social media explorer, when you wrote that book ahead to be a pretty electric to believe time, you know, it was fun. And I don't I don't know that that any of us really had a conscious awareness that we were doing anything other than just gather talk about ARCHE conference. But as each other's, Jay. Bayer, you know, Mark shank for amber Naslund, Tom Webster enhancing Webster on the people that kind of the circles that Iran in Maxine as we all started to develop pretty nice followings online and became of influencers, at least within this oral social media arming. I think you know, I don't think we were. I don't think we believed our own hype that we were doing something arrack Lous or or changing the world. I think we were just trying to be helpful to. Businesses out there who trying to figure out walls on which is really kind of five that we were preaching social media. We just wanted to be useful for folks. And we knew that alternately that would pay and you know, for me pay dividends in, you know, being recruited by a couple of companies getting nice professional to these. Jane, it paid dividends by helping him Bill. You know, he he told me very early on. When I first met him. He wanted to be like Seth go. He wanted to write books and speak for living. And now he's in the national speakers, sunshine, hall of fame and five six seven bucks, New York Times bestselling author, and it paves the way for him to do that. Then each one of us had our own little kind of goal that we were going after or maybe a general have a goal. I just had a general direction just wanted to have fun. And you know, people got goes when a client, and and you know, it was fun. We were we were going to conference the lot hanging out with. Learning together, we were helping people which gave us the warm fuzzies. And along the way a couple of carved out some ideas that still hold up today as Hanes how to do it. I had somebody asked me not too long ago. If I felt like I was tinier in the social media space. I don't think any of spent like we don't because yet remember house kind in the second wave of people when I think of social media pioneers. I think of doc Searle's clue train authors. I think of Chris you're who founded social media social media club who was in the bay area in those early years and early two thousand right after the dot com. I think of people like Tara hunt dip shoots a Jeremiah Alleyen was was out there at touchy the time doing cool stuff. I think Robert Scoble, I think if people in those your tech sectors who their years before me, I think my group was me J, amber that group I think we were in the Senate ways of people that came to it. But we were the ones who took the pioneer theories and turn around and apply them to Mark eight brands this in a much more think relevant on the ground tactic away. And I think that helped wanna be and I think it's still is open people. Although they're still funny business out there that aren't using. So it's been fun. And it was you know, for a for Deng guy from Easter Kentucky who just wanted to amongst eight. Never a lot of people think he was smart funny. Both it was it was a good run. Absolutely. I think. That stage is awesome. I know you've been inbound and you've been at all these other events content marketing world and stuff. And so you've you've made at that stage. And it's it's fun. I've been there love. Jay Baer money, though. Are so. When I hear you say Jason an in all of that is community. You yourself with a bunch of people that you wanted to hang out with you guys were doing similar work that you encourage each other. Maybe do you think it's important for storytellers wherever they are in their journey to have that group around them. I definitely do for two primaries of one that's where you get your stories. I mean, that's where when you're sitting around at least in the marketing world, or if your lawyer, or if you're you don't insurance agent, whatever, you know, when you're sitting around talking to like minded people in your industry business. That's where you're going to get at the is that are going to lead you to rake with the client or your business. That's where you're going to get you know, good back story that you can use to convince, you know, a future client to to take a little bit of risk lose ever. And that's what you're going to kinda develop the the ideas that you wanna share to help people. I can't. I can't think of something right off the top of my head. But I know that I can look back at people like Brian Solis, and and David Bearman, Scott. And some of the people who came just before me, and I was I ought to be around them. But when I really got to know them realize that, you know, they're really smart, folks. But I'm whole Mon here. I'm not actually them guy. I say I am that I can kind of keep up here. They those conversations in the relationships that Bill with that community people in industry helped me solidified my confidence that I knew what I was doing and helped me crystallize on the ideas that I had because I would balance things off Mark Schaefer, and Tom Webster, Jay. Bayer and Naslund Auden they would say, well, I like that miss this. You haven't thought of that? And so those conversations over drink effort a data conference, certainly inspired a lot of the thinking that went into my. My books and the vice begin my clients so backs the first phase of the second phase of it is when you have when you remember of a community that is what gives you. I think your audience, right? I mean, because if I didn't have social media digital market comedia- their own by tell stories to now, I can certainly be the storyteller for the Ran's that I work with that would be a good outlet for me. But in terms of my own professional development about her satisfied. I need that community to to be able to share with until those stories too. Yeah. I'm finding in a lot of Rina's that community is just so important. So it's interesting to hear you put it that way. I love it, man. That's the whole reason social league cysts. 'cause it's it's people searching for light minded people to share is. That's how it all urged our splits. And if you really think about it, you know, the traditional media that in general people were running away from in social year merged. They were looking for. Okay. Where am I going to get my formation where am I gonna spend my time? And it was with people who think like me, and that's there's a danger there in homogenization of of the information that you process every day. You can have a very narrow worldview if you only yourself with people who think just like you that's kind of what we have to. And I think that's why it's important to have the discussions too because you that homogeneously is very easy to slip into. But if we're kind of it, we can fight it. We can surround ourselves with with people who are different than us with respect. Right. And also read those those publications have different outlooks than we do. It's just it's so important. And I think I mean, I I love the idea that social media really shines. When you take it off line and make it truly social. Oh, absolutely. I mean, there's. I'm I'm my best stories are told drink Mahan profit bar. I'm bar at sound like have cocktail in last. That's those that's mine. Mar. And so he can't do that on Facebook. Can't do that chapter. Gotta be that person. And those are much more empowering much more satisfying areas were not only tells response appears. And that's one that's one of the reasons why. Going conscience for me was always very portent still is go travel quite as much that used to. I still like to go 'cause I need that face time with that to the friends because it helps Mooney, and that's that's important thing. And how do you think businesses today can take that idea of the tavern storyteller? And use a king can we as professionals use that in some way other than the tavern. Well, sure, everybody's more busy when they've had a cocktail or two, right? No, I think so. And here's why the now, obviously different types of the tavern storytellers. Right. There's the the lush too much stricken sloughed boxes. That's not what you want be. Unfortunately, that's what brands normally are. They're the ones who marching lowered their megaphone screaming by myself by my stuff. Let me tell you about my my dad, let me tell you about my story. But. The slobber, although they think they're most important thing the world. So that's not what you want be. So that's a nice little announce what you want to be as you wanna be another just another person sent type another person lined up around the circle around the bar, and you get to listen to a lot of wonderful stories from community, you're part of. But then eventually get permission tell one two, and so of always told people the best analogy, I can think of for business understanding what social media really is is if you walk into a bar or you walk into a network business network. Maybe it's a chamber of commerce networking thing or something. And there's a bunch of people about these circles people he's little micro communities around the room. And what you do if you walk into one of those. It's you don't only is you kind of walk around room. And you listen to hear what people are talking about. And then when you catch someone talking about something that you are interested in or that, you know, you can spend to you count gravitate to that circle. And eventually that certain will recognize you, and they'll live the circle. Well, and at some point when the conversation stops, they'll turn say and look into and unit to yourself not an opportunity to sell your crap not an opportunity to pass out business ours. Just about Consejo Jason look over cornet a new year. So what is everybody do? Right. Turn it back on and let them talk. Then you learn right. He start goodness. Assimilate into. That community, and when you assimilating that into that community, and you just kind of be patient and let everybody gets no you get to know them. Then it's gonna come Tom when someone's go. Hey, why don't you? You said you were recording. What is what are you guys do? Right. Eventually you're going to get permission going to get permission. Call you're going to get permission to sell, but you gotta car got a nurturing law, and if you think of social media marketing life, I'm going to have a Facebook brand page, but I'm not going to sell my stuff. I'm just going to bounce around Facebook and see what other people talk about share some other people's confidence. Interesting audience, a might develop some content. That's also very helpful and useful them and can't wait to see what people start talking to me about for the next step. That's a really good way to kind of ease into Ecorse. Businesses are the long spending money on eater return by the end of the quarters. I can't do it that slow. But if you don't do this in your eventually going to be this. Bye. One. I think it goes back to, you know, just like just like influence or marketing back in the days when you had only a small town, you went to the same mechanic what if a new mechanic came in they had to take their time. They couldn't do it in a month or a quarter or a year they had to build that and sink social media. I think anyway, so you mentioned create versus Curie. You know, very honestly for awhile. I hated the word content curation that I thought and curing just isn't original gonna realize over the years that that's not true at all. And that you can't only create you have to be able to share is. So as you're talking digital strategy with businesses with your clients. Do you talk about creation versus curation and how that balances do? Sometimes it depends on the client. They're trying to do. I'm not gonna curate content on its because that's where you're trying to paint or visual orcher of your brand and your business when you're all about. So I told people, you know, we're not going to share content Instagram. We're going to participate conversations we're gonna like other peoples of we're gonna comment post review member of the community, what people Instagram who re post people stuff, I think have this vibe of will. I'm not rigid. I'm just shared what somebody else share. If I wanted to see that go, follow them all us. Right. It doesn't work the same way on bass doesn't we've singly Twitter's at Twitter is obviously network where I have my biggest following and it's because in two thousand seven when I joined I decided I'm gonna build audience here, and I'm going to build an audience of people. Trust me, really good advice on digital social media, our PR, and I'm going to do that creating really good content. That's helpful. But I can't create more than maybe one blog post at yet day acid really lucky. So I've got to go out and just be a good curator for them say, hey, Jay Maher route this, you know, hey, Mark story wrote this over here. Hey, here's somebody else gets cool. You know, Liz, Strauss got great ideas on her blog post check that out. And so instead of having people in my audience have to come to the internet and go bouncing all around trying to find useful -ation, I just him. And I did that very consistently for quite a long time. I still not as often as I used to but my business and my goals what I used to be for chain of years, but I'm still trying to be useless, try share in and especially stuff that I find the help for people. And that's how I built my network, and that's the only way bilk network. I never tried the game the system. Out by followers or anything like that. And that's why were these top influencers in social media. And all that stuff lists come out, which you know, those are Domino's in half six one half dozen. They're not all oppressive normally, but when they do come out I'm normally on that list. Specially if they do some sort of out rhythmic ranking of people because I have a lot of hours, but they're all Jin not fake not from contest ocean or not because some celebrity mentioned me it's just because I've done a good job of building trust networking years. And so when people say why do people trust you on its trust because I don't Beuys their attention, and that's helpful and community Dag us coming on. And I love that. I'm big proponent of our remember back in two thousand eight when I joined Twitter, and I was a producer of a newscast local top forty market newscasts morning. News, and I love being able to share stories behind the scene stuff and photos of the producing booth. And here's your anchors behind the scenes. I remember getting in trouble actually because I was tweeting at nights when I should have been working. The Boston understand like you sent seventy tweets or whatever it was. And I was like that's like half a second apiece. And I'm Bill developing an audience, and now they are required to be on. Which is almost almost worse. To say don't beyond their. But anyway, it's it's fun to think back in those days, though, man, isn't it? Now, what do you see is? So we think back to those days. What you see is. That is in that. Phase right now when it comes to all of this stuff is it something to do. A new social media platform is a new way of doing things. Video is an audio. What's in that kind of early stages right now? Do you think? Well, thank you know. There's a lot of things that are that are no that I would say they're all in early stages. I think they're just all being reapplied render sturdy better way. Like, we've had been, you know, for long time with podcasts for hell. Now. People are starting to see. Wow. If you do it, right? It can be really useful. And you can attract the audience that way. And ranchers are say, hey, you know, I can't afford to go out here and buy an ad on Howard Stern. But I can probably afford to go out here and do something on the on meter TV or or something on you know, some other podcasts we have a lot of spirits bourbon brands were with your cornet and a lot of our. Of our partnerships now instead of going out buying ads are, hey, let's take a smaller Budgie and see we can't engage a bunch of influencers podcasters to do some really cool content parts within where we're not rough phone out an ad but were sitting them to product and saying, hey, what we'd like to instead of just doing thirty reader is we'd like for you to try the product wire on here and talk about it because that's way, more genuine way more gauging for the audience, and they like and for them, which they like in for us, which we like so it it's a win win win. So I think it's it's less about new things emerging more about figuring out at us. What we have. Now that said there's always gonna be some new platforms. Do I I guess trend on where strategists right now, I think strategy is moving away from a little bit away from not totally little bit away from the the purest. Version social media ware as we were talking earlier it's all about community trust. Let's just hire much. Community managers will have fun conversations with our customers as businesses the larger the business the more insistently come on. We have to be able to connect improve out u s. And I'll be Frank with you loss. Oh, Shalini people be pissed said, it's, but if if you are banking on the fact that Twitter, Facebook and Instagram or Twitter Facebook link, Dan, or whatever are going to drive, you know, forty fifty percent of your revenue in the next four or five years. You're you're sunk he just stop. You're you're not going to do very well, those pieces are important pieces of your overall, Mark puzzle. But if you're not also using a pain of socially paid online traditional advertising public relations, Email marketing, marketing automation, making sure your website works for you. Search. Holy crap. You're spending money they're up. Go work for somebody else. You're gonna say, right. So there's so many different components of making your marking work social media an important part of it. But the bigger the business these days, the more they're saying, look, I'm happy to invest in social, but you've got a Chevrolet can work, and you've got a measure it. So that I understand how ladders up by overall business. So what we try to do when we're pitching a new client or we're working through measurement reports in our current classes. We need to say look the goal is what we're gonna start with. We have to understand goal is goal is to drive website traffic, and that's what we're going to measure. If you come back to me with what's the ROI? I'm gonna say the ROI is twenty five percent Jumpin website visitors now is on smart, which I am or at least I think I am. I say look the goal is website visitors. But what happens to when they get there? Let's also in addition. Social media. Let's go a step further and tweak your user experience in your user flow, and the marketing automation components on your website. So that when they get to the website, we asked to do something we take down a path take them on a journey. We convert them into Email subscriber a first time customer, a multiple time customer loyal customer. What are we doing with winter? They're just using social media and get people the websites not enough. You've got to be able to also say, hey, this many people came Facebook. And this percentage of that people bought something from you or signed up for a seminar or the came a qualified liter hiring to measure that. And then when you get into that point you can start trace back and say this much revenue came from Facebook this much revenue came from Twitter this Madrid. King emailed his wherever else. So that's really the business trend now is okay. So media has been around. Long enough for us. All get understanding understand how it works. Now. You gotta start proving that it does work and show with dollars. And so that's where we are on the brandings things in terms of social networks and stuff. Yeah. There's always gonna be something. Pops up daughter got me on tape talk a weeks ago. I've been calling take taxes. It's formerly musically, and you know, being being now being in my forties and having kids who Twain's teens. A look at the social networks. They're on like what these people do. This is ridiculous. I mean, if I had some kink talk to most people say, it's basically you get to watch people lip sync all the time. Why would you do that? But think back think back about Twitter ten years ago. Older people were saying you're dislike sending text messages. But like everybody about whatever that stupid. Right. So about you had breakfast tip. Take talks big deal. It isn't Wheeler past billion half. A billion rather users already on the network because they merged Capone of service. So it's relevant, and we've got our painted that to see how we can engage people there. So what it so this is interesting because I have daughters probably about the same age turning thirteen and fourteen this year. And yeah. So while bourbon, and whiskey we're going to have that discussion to, but, but you know, they're they're in that age too. And we my wife, and I have made a commitment that they are on social media. We don't want them have access to it right now because there's just so much out there and not that we want to shelter them. So there so they like go crazy day. But we just we just don't wanna do that. Do you see a CD side to all of this? Is there a danger out there that we need to be aware of his parents? Oh, sure. But, but I I've always told my kids and other people who has ended about it. I've talked to the folks who were talking about the dangers of internet socially need to my kids at school opposite. Look, you can the only thing I don't want to blame social or sure if your kids are are up to no good on socially. It's not Facebook. All it's not Twitter's fall. It's probably because there wasn't eleven of. Openness communication honesty between you and the kids and that might slaying some people hear that. But we can't blame everything on all the internet is full of awful people. Facebook and Twitter. Terrible. His they're not if you use the right way using a smart wave your educating about half, protect yourself and use them responsibly. They can make an anchoring entire career like in my whole career. The last ten twelve years is based on understanding using social so we have to understand just like talking about shopping mall or going to the movie theater or going to a concert in Las Vegas, where you know, what there might be someone anger rife what we know tubes. Crown that'd be able to just talk from kids about the dangers of the World Social us. Another place was dangerous hap-. So it's about. Smart. Let's talk about protecting their privacy understanding when they put something out there. That's public doesn't just have impact. Now can have an impact ten years now may talked to the governor of Virginia about that. Don't get somebody on the internet gets a wholesome picture a while back. Well, this generation are offers generation is going to be people who every picture and they've ever taken is primarily published online, which is way different than us. Ryan. There's plenty pictures from when ours. Nice God forbid there on the internet. I'm done. For me. Yeah. But I think it's really just about having that conversation being smart began about it. I have a much more open and much more liberal with my management of my kids their social media for a couple reasons. I talk a lot with my ex wife their mother about it. And we make together spill of because we have to co parent this one, I never she's much more concerted YM. She never let all this person stuff out internet. But my daughter loves she loves the tink talks. She loves watching the YouTube videos of she wanted Nuro YouTube channels on like, no, this is a step toward educating her on not only how to use social media, but had a create content. How being brand at you know, be success. Sounds like this is a ten year old who wants to do our own to channel most parents. Oh, no. You can't to Haley. Yes college. Let's do it. Exactly. So, but but it requires a great deal of of focus and concentration from Prenton side to routinely monitor set some rules instead, hey, anytime one one of the key roles. Got this remote late. Great friend. David David Finch one of the rules. We have is anytime I asked to see your phone or your computer, you have turned out, and I have accessed everything all passed. We can't hide from me. And if I find out your Heinsohn from privilege guns away, and when I had an incident an incident not too long ago with sign where he, you know, did something he shouldn't have done. So he got his his browser turned off. And he got his vice titan away for a while. And then when I gave him back his vice where algebra still stayed off for a long time hold his websites. He should have been going. To and so he's learned and we've opened that up again. Now, he's using wager. So we have a couple of rules where new spot checks always Chang. If you're on social that were I have you have to follow me. I have to fall you. Stuff and I can spot. Check them all the in your house at anytime check brings and I do I don't just trust. They're going to be good about it actually knew about once every two weeks a long into their networks and check and see what the private messages are. The only thing that really frustrates me is Snapchat in Instagram stories because they go away that his off. But I also can tell from the overall news of their socially and ritually on assigned is my daughter, everything is through me. Son's thirteen different. But but I can tell his wrong use that he's generally having himself. I've even seen some messages back and forth where some of his friends will get a little on the edge of inappropriate. Let guys come on. You know, my dad sees this stuff. This isn't cool. We should be doing this. And so he'll bring them right back into. So I didn't supress woods. Leadership regrets. Good. I like dry does that will set these getting it? I think as it. So with with with how incredibly nosy social media can feel can can storytellers nowadays still get their message out through that venue. They're just starting out. Like, how do we do that? Well, you're you're stories gonna be good. You know, I saw somebody today who posted a laughing thread on Reddit or something where skin bias headline. And the headline was, you know, something like, how do I get more wasn't hundred more followers? How how how earn more prestigious that will whatever? Specifically. But my response was got have better. You you're not getting the attention. We wanna get because content probably isn't up to par. And if it's not a problem with your content than you're probably not streaming putting in front of people. So there's really drilling that's really the only two pieces of us. It's if you've got great content. You gotta distribution pro if you if the distributions pretty good you're getting stuff out there. But you're not getting responsiveness. And that's true run visuals owner. So I go back to known few people say, you know, why is apple success? Apple is not successful because they have great marketing for not successful because they have great customer service some house. They don't they're not successful because they have great social success. Have products for the most part the people who like apple love, and they love their products and their products bearing Trump Titian, and they are successful because they serve this customer wants to specific thing and once at Dennis Pacific way liver. And so if you think about that, you're hunting is so good so insatiable that people will stand it live. You don't have a problem doesn't matter where you just read the contents takeoff. What? And the reason I know that to be true look at the people who are success on the tick tock of moral look at the people who are successful on YouTube. You'd think puny pie is is is. I mean when I look at him, and I think okay, first of all this guy, probably isn't smart enough to figure out content distribution. But when he is smart. Do is create content that people love content. The people stand in line for people will I can't wait till he releases never been even if it is making fun of you're watching it because you think he's ridiculous. He still attraction audience would I don't know if you've heard of this now, again, another guy that I've worked with worked with my talk to because I can't work with because he does cactus crews comedian. Now, we started out doing YouTube videos, basically loose noth- like drinking entire bottles. Liquor like beer Bong an entire bottles liquor and then dive off the roof of a housing swimming. Ridiculous dumb stuff. But people love watching those mediums into something in the redneck zeitgeist of the world, build the audience, and you know, what he's making the turn of money now because he's got audience, but content in front of I wanted to pay money along way. But I'm like, I can't pay you money. If you drank about liquor because it's cold at Saint liquor companies can't be associated with that. So he said why absorb we can't work get the end because that's that's kind of what I do like your crazy. Okay. But good, Anya, exactly. Right on good advice. I appreciate it. So Jason this is fun, man. I could guy could talk to all night, we need to commend Kentucky and have some bourbon with you, please. Although Allama whiskey guy. So what's difference me whiskey bourbon, so only difference between whiskey? Bourbon depends on what type of whiskey. Barb is risk. It's in his America's native spirit. So legally be you'd have to have a couple of legal requirements to be ver-. So just like whiskey. It's mating. Amass Bill different types of grains, a to be bourbons. Fifty one percent. At least that has to be courts corn, whiskey by definition. It can be anything above fifty one. But it can't be lease. And then it has to there's a couple of nuances of it has to go into the still are. Yeah. It has to come out of the still at a certain at a at least. Maximum proof that they can come out of the snow, and there's a maximum proof of go into the barrel age, and then it has to be aged charred new white oak barrels, and is it's charged. If it's aged chart new white males. So asked me brand new would chart on inside. It can't be used for something else. I and so when his it can be aged for two months, you'll be vervet is aged for at least two years straight Mer. And then the general thumb is that burdens get really good when they're between probably six twelve years. I personally think urban beyond twelve years get a little too Woody Chari there too hot my tastes. But there's plenty of people who think that they taste better one of the more elite birds out there is packing van winkle twenty three which people pay a pretty penny to drink. Saying I guess technically, I should disclose having been we technically client because the buffalo. Trade story words maze class here Oko. Okay. But it's it's super premium with super premium price of my partial Pinon, if it gets passed about twelve thirteen years. I'm personally not gonna like other people. What, sir? So it's not the monarch's better. It is there's a window of sweet spot. But most of your good birds are going to be eight ten eleven twelve tell. Yeah. But it's it is an and here's another one for you and my burden aficionado friends white and from saints. Tennessee was which is what Jack Dame's is also. What they do is they take bourbon and barrel, and then they filled through through charnel. And so a bourbon aficionados statement of Attias if my burden who so crappy that I need to run it over rocks to make it taste better. Just wouldn't call Bert. That's how that's how we think about Tennessee whiskey rent right on right on I go for the Irish whiskey. I got a little hours in me. So I love that stuff. Man. There's some good Irish was actually good story for quick quick story. I worked once time with makers, Mark. Has in in two things about them that are that are fun number one. Did you know that the throwing Scott, which is very good starch? I it's an island scotch is age. I think exclusively in maker mold makers, Mark Barrett's thrilling one piece of me, but rob Samuels who's currently the chief operating officer maker's, Mark he is the grandson of guy came resting so Robin out worked together for a period of time, and he did a trip. Ireland and Scotland did a much scotch and wishing tours discount. Learn more at brands and how they do things the dreams back with two bottles push. What was regular bottle? One of them was really nice exclusive on oh what the difference was. But rob was like, I don't really drink much d want these my. Are you serious Agana? Yeah. So rob Sanders wants time gave me to bottle officials one of like, you know, kind of their super expensive version of Eddie last release files. The awesome. That's that's actually probably one of my favorite wissies Bushmills simply because it's distilled in the district of Moyle in Northern Ireland which they again, also anyway. Well, Jason thank you so much time today. I wanna ask you one last question. I'd like to end on this one just to see if I can get you if so you define yourself as a storyteller. But if somebody said to you tomorrow Jason you can tell no more stories, but you have one more. What would you last story be? Wow. Steep. I think my last story I have to go back to the I think the reason I'm here. And I had a my story would be about the story of my relationship with my dad who took off and last deserted, my mom, and I would ask three and showed up against years later, and we repaired our relationship. Great relation father. Now, you know, we've had the whole forgiveness and all that kind of stuff and all that's out way. But that relationship and that gap in my childhood's, what really made me excited to be father because I wanted to be dad, and I wanna be better at and eight had were my father wasn't my kids. And that's the story. I will tell because I really in truth, the alike grant, entailing reason, I'm here and my whole job in life is to prepare them to have a happy life selves. And that's the story. I would tell because a really and truly feel like that's why I'm here. And that's what I want people to remember about me as my kids, and I was good. Wonderful on like it. So I'll include links and the show notes, of course for listeners, but where's the best place to connect with you, Jason balls everywhere. Jason balls dot com is the site. It's much more of a marketing been my Instagram is a bourbon channels on talk about Irving funny jokes about urban there on and then I just watched new podcast co double-barreled with a friend, Jerry, Cheryl where we prove that you can disagree without being disagreeable and use bourbon as the centerpiece pay. We're going to have a glass of bourbon talk about some. We talked about the barbecues. It's fun. But it's it's double barreled. It's new so to be a little hard to find for low. But it's on IT to deter in play. But I'm Jason balls everywhere as Twitter Facebook, good stuff, the the the face of pages, the Jason falls, and I do Tuesday morning show people that working just like this. So. Chat with anybody and everybody. Absolutely. We'll put it out there, man. Excellent resigned. Thank you again. Thank you so much Jason falls for joining me on today's show. You can find Jason online at the links in the show notes. His social media has podcast website. All that is in the show. So check that out. And if you enjoyed this episode with Jason you'll learn something from it share it with somebody that could benefit from it. I appreciate that can shoot on social just tell someone texted to him share from your podcast app. However, you get out to folks, I very much. Appreciate it. If you want to share your story with me and some way go to the storytellers network dot com. Go to the contact page just hit contact and semi Email. We'll chat. All right, listen. Until next time. Here's telling our stories having stories to cheers.

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Elite, but Overlooked: The Pacers and the Nuggets | The Mismatch (Ep. 361)

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Elite, but Overlooked: The Pacers and the Nuggets | The Mismatch (Ep. 361)

"Hey, it's lists Kelly and welcome to the ringer podcast network after a three year hiatus Bill. Simmons is back with his NBA trade value rankings for the two thousand eighteen and twenty nine hundred season. You can check that out as well as our year in review articles, wrapping up everything twenty eighteen on the site. Also throughout the holidays, we will be sticking to a regular podcast schedule. So make sure to tune into your favorite shows as usual happy holidays from the ringer. Welcome to the ringer NBA show. I'm Chris Varney. Joining me he does every Tuesday from the ringer dot com is Kevin O'Connor aka Kevin Obama, aka Kevin O climber a Kevin O concert, aka Kevin O conflict. Kevin happy new year. Chris how're you doing happy new year to you? It is twenty nineteen. We've got a lot of stuff to get to an ice swear every single week. By the time, we come on this podcast. I look at the western cover standings and the Eastern Conference standings and dependent on how a team is performed in that week. It feels like everything has changed and teams go on one little run. And all of a sudden you look in the standings their homecourt advantage team in the Western Conference. And then teams lose for a week. And they're out of the playoffs completely. We are. Now, you know almost halfway through the season. Kevin. And I know most people think at the very end the warriors are going to be there. But I still don't have a great grasp on who the playoff teams in the west are going to be a little bit better. It's it's shook out a little bit better in the east, but in the Western Conference who knows they're still only eight and a half game separating the one seed in the fourteen save which is Denver and the New Orleans and that fourteen slaughter right now. So at this point, it still is really really hard to figure out what teams are actually going to make it even even a team like Oklahoma City who we've talked about before and praised their top drank defense even Verret question because of their struggles against teams over five hundred with Houston. If James harden weren't having this ridiculous run. They wouldn't be in that fourth spot with Portland despite having CJ McCollum and Damian Lillard they're still on that bubble. They're still only the two and a half game separated from being the nine spot where Sacramento. Is now I think it has shook out a little bit. Like, you said, Chris, I think most of the teams that are in there now or probably going to be in there at the end. But I think that seven eight spot will be between a group like Portland LA clippers jazz and maybe the kings sustained success. But even I have questions about them being able to do that, it's wild. It's more fun than I can remember it though, the two teams that have not gotten enough talk. And we are we we've talked a lot more about the nuggets. I think certainly than we have the Pacers. But those would be the two because I mean, you look at the standings again or almost midway through the season. And the nuggets are sitting in the number one spot in the Western Conference and on the flip side in the Eastern Conference. You know, we thought the books would be up there with the raptors would be up there, certainly the Sixers and the Celtics but the longer the season goes on the more you start to think that the. We left the Pacers out and everybody did I don't end the basis crash that party. I don't know. I don't don't I think in the end they were a team that you know, they won forty games last year. And I think with them, you're you're you're expecting all depot, if he were to sustain a success that you know, they they at least be a top four or five seat. I don't know about number three like right now. But but don't you think it was presumptive that we thought the bucks the raptors the Sixers and the Celtics those will be your Eastern Conference semi-final teams. We thought we knew that. I think everybody I think that's fair. Right. And I are all I'm saying is the Pacers could crash that party. I'm not sure that's really changed though to be honest. Really? No, oh, I'm really liking the Pacers still V those teams as having higher upside in the playoffs. When you're when you're projecting ahead when rotations are at eight or nine guys, I think at that point when you're projecting forward. I would still put those teams as the favorites ahead of Indiana. I certainly think that Indiana. If they if you know, obviously, everybody's gotta stay healthy. But if they stay healthy, and they were a home-court advantage team that a lot of these series are going to go to seven games, I believe that. And if you go to seven games, and you got home court advantage in that game seven I could totally see them being in the Eastern Conference fine. No doubt, Indiana, despite everything I just said Indiana's team that when it comes to the playoffs. They will not be an easy out. They will not be an easy out. Indiana will be a team that can easily take another eastern conversation to six or seven games. I think with them. They're so interesting because they can play different styles. I think you're seeing Thaddeus young have one of if not the best season of his career playing the four victory depot, obviously sustaining the same success that he had last year. But the guy who's taking the leap this season, though. Curses the Montessori Bona's like we knew Atkins aga- when he was in college. What he could do as an interior score. There's flashes of his passing. There was little moments that he had on the defensive end of the Florida fitting, well, but this year year three of his career second one the Anna, he's put it all together. And he's somebody who their bench was already good last year. But now, they're the depth. They've added adding TR tyreek Evans this year with Savona taken a leap. They have gone from a forty eight nice cute. Forty eight win team two team. That's a little bit more serious as a playoff threat. I still put them below other teams, but with their depth and with their top and talent led by depot there. They definitely will would not be an easy outcome playoff time. I actually saw the sa- bonus thing coming in the preseason this year, people could go probably find this. But I I I saw him in a preseason game. And thought my God, this guy is in unbelievable shape. You know, you've been you've been really concentrating on getting in the best shape of his life. And he dominated the game. It was it was a preseason game. But it was obvious. This was a guy. That was ready to he he he just looked different. He looked different this year than he had in the past. And one of the shocking things is when you see him out on the floor there with all the depot that's two of their top three scores on a team that drank third in the Eastern Conference right now. And it is probably the greatest lesson in trade reaction. We could ever get right? Who I was talking about it. I mean, it is it really is. It's one of those where we look back at if you could find everything that everyone said after that trade went down for Paul George, and there is a tremendous argument to be made that they won that trade. Now, I don't think there's any question. What people might be the best shooting guard in the conference. I mean, I I don't know if they won the trade, but both teams one I think there's no loser. In that trade. I mean, I I look back at my reaction to that trade in. My shock was was founded on like the lack of a pick. And I'm still surprised. Oklahoma City didn't have to give up a pick in the deal. But it's beside the point because all depot is a player that in two thousand thirteen I had him ranked number one I gave up I gave up after four seasons. And I shouldn't have a lot of people shouldn't have the leap. He made last season. It was remarkable to watch. He became a better shooter. A better athlete working with David Alexander down in Miami development is not linear and for every player. It's different. And for all the depot, it just happened to coincide with him going back to Indiana. And then with bonus he was stuck in a tough situation as a rookie big man in Oklahoma City playing off ball being forced to be a spot up shooter. And that's pretty much it never mind. The fact that young big men typically, always suck. Right. So it's right fair to expect him as a rookie to look like anything of value. And yet not only does it speak to like, the reaction to trades. But also with how draft. Picks depreciate in value so quickly. So it's the bonus. He's a guy drafted eleventh Oklahoma City traded firm and the draft in two thousand sixteen. I liked him. A lot of people like love suboxone us and his ability to become the guy that we're seeing today and yet after one season that wasn't an ideal situation for him in which he struggled. It's like he doesn't have much value. But Indiana, obviously saw through that and got a player. That's for them already really really good playing twenty five minutes per game. But as he gets older as he's playing thirty two thirty three thirty four minutes per game. Maybe it becomes a guy. That's averaging like twenty in twelve. I think he has an him if he's fed the opportunity, and if he starts shooting threes instead of deep mid-range jumpers. That's there for him. In addition to being an elite rebounder in a solid defender and a good passer talking about a centerpiece for Indiana moving forward and then. Then on the flip side that Denver Nuggets team who sit there through thirty five games at twenty four and eleven there in the midst of another three game win streak, and I and they are one that throughout the year. We say, oh, well, if they lose him or if they lose him if they have to withstand injuries, they go back. I mean, they wish stood all manner of injury. And here they are still through thirty five games at the very top of the conference. They are fifteen and three on their home floor. They're fifteen and six in games against the Western Conference, so poking holes in what they have done so far is nearly impossible. They have just been fantastic that our top ten in offense efficiency, their top ten in defensive efficiency again Yokich as another huge night last night. But I think at the beginning of the season we thought Denver just like everybody else is going to be in the fight for a playoff spot. A lot of people had them as a playoff team. Not many. I don't know if any had them as a top four seed, but the longer we go the more you've gotta start believing in them because they have done this. I mean, they lost will Barton at the very beginning of the year. They lost mill set for chunk of games. They've lost Gary Harris for chunk of games they've been playing guys that were in the G league last year, for God's sakes. Seriously, G league starting guys that were in the league last year, and here they are twenty four and eleven what do you make of it? Well, the only players that have played in all thirty five games for them Jamal Murray. Maliki Easley Mason Plumlee Monty Morris, Nicole Yokich and trae Lyles two of the guys on that list. Stand out to me, Molly, Beasley, and Monte Morris. And the reason why because we're talking about Beasley guy who was drafted nineteenth in the twenty sixteen draft. And then with Morris somebody who was drafted fifty first and the twenty seventeen drafts. And so for team that has suffered the amount of injuries that they have those are two guys that have elevated their play and really really kick ass job coming off their bench, playing smart basketball. I mean Monty Morris still still believe leads the NBA in assist turnover ratio. Maliki Beasley all his athleticism that we saw at. State in the flashes of you know, of attaching outs is starting to manifest for him. I didn't see last night's game. But he had twenty three points which continues a trend over just the past week. He's at twenty two points twenty one points, fifteen points, twenty three points. So they're getting all these unexpected high level performances from guys that you wouldn't expect it from in addition to Yokich continuing to get better and better with Jamal Maury right now at only twenty one years old still being an inconsistent player. But here and there he's going to drop forty six points for you. He's going to push for fifty Jamal Mari only twenty one continuing to get better too. I think it speaks to the job that front office has done over the past three four seasons of just finding talent at areas of the draft that you're not the typically don't get it. And that that is the truest with Yokich their star player who was drafted forty I well and look no further than the guy you mentioned right at the beginning Monty Morris. I mean, he's. Fifty per he's the fifty first pick in the second round. A lot of those fifty first picks are sold thrown away included in trades just to make them work. You know, and they they snatch a guy who's a four year point guard at Iowa State. Who was certainly not a household name by any means he's playing last year in the G league. And now this year he has been he it's it's vanfleet ish. You know what he's doing because he's shooting forty seven. You bring them off the bench forty seven percent from the field. He's forty four percent from three. I mean, I've seen this guy this year at least three or four times. I've watched him where he you would never in a million years suspect. It's his first year through the league thirty five year old point car. That's been doing for over a decade. Right. Right. Like a veteran. Yes. What he might end up being one of those guys because he's such a stabiliser. He such a smart player doesn't make mistakes who. Can play off ball. If you need him to a spot up three point shooter. I mean, one thing Moore's is defense isn't great. But at least he tries on the floor of theirs. What more could you want from a backup point guard? Do you even remember him in college? I honestly don't with van bleed in Monte Morris and guys like Josh heart is well, you look at those guys that are upperclassmen. And it's like, yeah. You know, great college players probably going to be a pretty good role player in the NBA. And then yet these guys go undrafted undrafted. I go in the second round every year. And I look back at my rankings. And I always kick myself with these upper classmates like cheese, you're drafting for like you wanna hit a home run in the draft. Right. You wanna hit a home run? Even if you have a pick in the twenties or thirties. So you ended up ranking these guys who you know, are probably going to be solid pros behind guys with upside. I wonder if maybe instead of swing for the fences ease Kevin O'Connor coming. Around to what my way of thinking. No, I'm talking about like in the thirties. I'm not saying you draft Monty Morris with the twentieth pick. We literally had this argument about Jalen Brunson. Literally the exact arguments, he's another guy to where it's like, I think I had him ranked thirty six thirty seven, and I look at some of the names head of him, and maybe some of those guys will pan out, but it's like cheese. Jalen Brunson is going to be a good player, and he's already a solid player for Dallas. I look at guys like that. And it's like, maybe they should be bumped up a little bit more than they are right now is their ages certainly held against them. There's no way around and it's happening. It's on even necessarily the age that's held against them as much as I think, it's the the potential of some of the younger guys or more athletic guys favored over then. Right. We want to guess if they're going to be good rather than what we already know. Yeah. Is good. And so therefore, it's vanfleet, and it's Jay Crowder, and it's dream on green. And it's now brogden. In on and on and on. The loose salt firmness. It is Ramos list of guys like that. I mean, the draft is hard, man. It's tough. That's why teams miss every single year. So now, we have given the love to the Denver Nuggets deserve it. We have given the love to the Indiana Pacers who deserve it yesterday. It was one of those massive Kawai games. And this is right before he's about to head back to San Antonio tomorrow night. I bet he's going to get a real heroes. Welcome in San Antonio. He gets. Oh boy. Yeah. I'm really really excited just to see the response from the San Antonio crowd tomorrow. It's going to be as mad as we have probably heard a San Antonio. This has never happened before. Right. Like, they'll probably put a crown on. Tony Parker when he comes back and visits for Charlotte. Whereas is been anybody that ever left that they would ever be mad about certainly I can't recall. A time where San Antonio player has gone that it wasn't San Antonio's choice. I mean, listen Kyle Anderson went back there this year, and they give them a standing ovation. Right. They love their players in. That's been the thing with the Spurs for the last, you know, twenty years we've never really been through this before was San Antonio. But I bet they're gonna boo the absolute hell out of him. What kind of odds would you give it that? They gave him a standing. Oh when he's announced and then maybe boom during the game, but a standing ovation to start a billion to one. There's no way. I mean, if you're giving me a billion on odds I'd. Put a at least then I could win. You know, there is absolutely no way. They are going to cheer Leonard. No way. No way. Yeah. Think so either. The way. And if they do chair, they're probably be blowing a by the end of the night at least Coalisland lender. Does what he did last night with forty five points on sixteen twenty two and seventeen free throw times. That's quite a lot. Chris. It is a lot for Leonard for sure free throws imagine. If that happened every night. All right. You want to do this now because people people were sending me. How many times was he flailing around? How many times was he throwing his hand in the air and kick kicking his neck back. No, right. Yeah. Obviously, you are trying to get under my skin of James harden. Taking twenty seven free throws the other night. Of course, I watched every play of this game career, high twenty seven free throws just for you. Chris just for me as I have expressed my discontent. So when the three throws that James harden takes this has led to roughly forty eight to seventy two hours of me somehow being included in everybody's tagged arguments about James harden of which I couldn't care less. But this is this what you deal with right? When you tweet about James harden. And all of a sudden people seem to care. I think they think I care. Here's the thing. I made my statement, which is it's gross basketball. I never said that James harden is great yet. People have sent me like, oh, we'll look at what he does. If he doesn't score free throws or stop fouling him or whatever other kind of nerdy crap. They want to send me here's the deal. And there was that. He wasn't great. I didn't say he's one of the best players in the NBA. I said his style of basketball is gross. I don't like it. And frankly, no one else the majority of people don't either because there is nothing less entertaining in basketball than the free. Throw nothing it grinds the game to a halt. And then everybody's just sitting there. And it kills the flow of the game. And so a guy taking twenty seven free throws. I didn't say he didn't get Foued either. I didn't say any of that. I said, it's gross basketball, which it is. And people wanna say don't fool him. He is playing with the intent to get fouled. And you could bring me up everybody else's numbers. You can bring me up Janas numbers. You can bring me up. Joel embiid's numbers. If you wanna talk about guys, by the way, neither of those guys shoot threes. This guy only takes forty four percent of his shots from two point range two point rates. Forget going to the basket to point range at all. So less than fifty percent of his shots are even in the two point. Area. And yet he goes to the free throw line more than everybody else. And he is great at what he does which is attempting to get fouled. And that many times is the primary goal of the possession. And I don't like it. Have you ever seen that great YouTube video of highlights of fouls drawn using that? I don't know. I don't think so. Oh, this because it doesn't exist. Nobody wants to watch that crap. No, there's no YouTube video, oh, watches will get these awesome drawn fouls. You, you know, you as you might see as part of highlight reels for player in once you might you might see that which you might score wins on this. And and so we live in a highlight age and show. What people do is they see the highlight. The what they show on ESPN. They showed the eight shots. He made. They don't show the twenty seven free throws or the times that he got. It's not fun to watch. I don't know. How anyone could argue that why is that fun to watch. Okay guy. Go to the free throw line all the time. Just have a couple of questions for you. Chris. I'm curious lie in this is not me arguing let me make that clear. It's me trying to understand what I'm curious about is why is it growth in your mind, or why isn't a problem with hardened style during fouls, but not for large ball handlers? That are driving the proof from the perimeter drying a high. Frequency of files. Like, yeah. I listen to the Kunpho and Ben Simmons. I I mean those guys are posting higher free throw rates than hard in the season. Because I never feel like the intention of the play is to get fouled. I feel like the intention of the play is to score. And in many cases, you are way better off owering that guy. So it's not it's not the intensive LeBron James ever ever to get fouled when he's driving to the rim. He doesn't flail has head. Do you get the sense that when LeBron James LeBron James gets a lot of superstar calls too? But do you watch LeBron James and think, wow, he's flailing around everywhere? Trying to get a call or he is making James harden. Why I don't I think he does it. Of course, he and he probably does more than anybody else. But it doesn't happen. Every single drive to the rim. Been looking into delays care about YouTube. I can literally pull up the NBA dot com. Tracking beta and like you can look that up right now guys who attempts over ten drives per game. And the percentage of possessions, where they draw personal foul on that number one is Spencer Dinwiddie number two is LeBron James number three Zach LeVine Yanssons into Kubo. And then James Harlem, it's fifth. He draws a personal follow on ten point six percent of his drives to the rim than you get I Leonard John wall, the Marta rose and the fall and how many jump shots, this drives to the rim. Kosheh? We're talking about drives right now, this is off the jumper. He draws more falls on three pointers than anybody else in the league by a wide margin. And the also really than anybody else. I don't know what percentage of shots. I don't have that in front of me. But right now, we're talking about drives to the rim. Specifically a lot of other guys also draw pretty similar amount of personal fouls on drives through them. Which by according to. NBA dot com is defined as when the player gains possession of the ball from behind three point arc and drives to the rim. So this is shots near the restricted area. Or in the restricted area point is statistically from NBA dot com camera tracking data he's fifth behind Spencer Dinwiddie, LeBron James Acklin being in the island sensitive kupuna. I guess I'm just curious again, why is it rose with Hardin but not with larger ball handlers? And not with other guys that are similar mound. Okay. Because those guys their percentage of shots within the two point area are much greater much greater look at where their shots are taken from Kevin this is a ridiculous stat unless you're gonna tell me, no. But we're specifically drives to the room only drives to the rim. The only thing you wanna talk about hard and takes nineteen of them for game, which is more than anybody nineteen drives to the rim per game. So you're saying you're talking about two point attempts. But he. Drives more than anybody else to the rim. So he leaves the NBA in drives thrown he might not lead in goal attempts from two-point range, but he Louis host the legion free throw attempts by a wide margin by wide margin. That bite have to do with bleeding and drives to where he would the rocket system. Which may maybe it's just so you're telling me he's fifth Kevin. So how is he leading the league in free throws taken? If you tell me, well, why does it bother you? Because I mean obvious curious as my virtual question. Okay. Because in foul these other guy because the reason you file these other guys is because it's a much less lower proposition. You make them go earn it from the free throw line. Right. Everybody knows that that is not the case. With James harden? He is most deficient. It's an eighty five percent proposition. I'm not telling you that the guy doesn't get fouled. What I'm telling you is if there are of million YouTube videos of a guy. Flopping flailing and acting like he was shot by a sniper when he's driving to the basket of Janta Takubo of which I'm on aware. Then by all means, let me know. So what you're saying brings to mind an argument that I was in the minority a couple years ago with Draymond green kicking. Yes. Draymond mongering kicked more than anybody else. But you could also watch any other big man coming down with the rebound and traffic and see their legs flailing up. It's just a natural Connecticut motion that happens with a lot of big men. Maybe would dream on happened a little bit more than any bills. Because so on. Even on the control of his bar you claiming that other people flop and flail an attempt to draw fouls. Yeah. They changed the fucking rule for James harden with the rip through they literally changed a rule with one of the Katie through your, okay, never mind. Sorry. Yeah. Where do you think? Katie got it. It's what the guy is extremely hard to believe. All three of those guys. We're on the same team. That's still baffles my mind, it does the mind. If you listen if you watch if you watch the game that he has played and anybody who wants to tell me that watching a guy go to the free throw line all the time and killing all flow to the game is enjoyable basketball to watch. I don't know what to tell you. It's like watching a shitty movie. And then saying, but I really enjoyed the cinematography. I mean, what are we talking about here? Over of that a second one other question for you, though, when it comes to the travelling accusations with harden, yes, he travels a lot of players travel, though. And that's where I tend to follow this like there's a lot of players who travel while dribbling toward the rim in with heart. And it's a little different. I mean, he travels sometimes not all the time. He travels when he's moving away from the rim on step back jumpers, and we have. We seen a guy like this that has used the quote unquote zero step, which is when you gain possession of the ball. And that initial step is considered zero before one to there hasn't been a guy who's used it like harm has for his step back jumper, right? And some of the time it's a travel, but not all the time. But what is typical as referees? I think are generally good like basketball's a hard game to officiate. But one thing they typically stink at is calling traveling because it's so hard to spot with the game moving so fast when you're looking for so much. So with harden he has used that to his advantage. And he has he has a better step back jumper than perhaps anybody ever it is his trademark move. And I think part of the reason why people get so annoyed with it with him is because we're used to players traveling moving toward the ram that was so normal and happens every single night every single quarter very often both Hardin, it's different. And I think that makes it a little bit more. Frustrating because we're just not used to it. I give the refs a little bit of a break on this. Because I watched it up close and personal the reason that they don't catch it. You know, why? 'cause they're waiting for a pinkie to land on his elbow. Oh, please. That's what they're waiting for. Because he has trained them to blow. The whistle. No matter what if anybody's within breathing space of him instead of Pavlov's dogs. It's hardens refs. Is that what it is? If you want to tell me that all of these other players that go to the free throw line all the time flop and flail into defenders and initiate contact and kicked their neck back constantly in attempts to get calls, then by all means do that. But that's just not true. It's just not the way he goes about it with attempting to get fouled all of the time. Listen, he is exposing a loophole. It is certainly very efficient. I don't find it fun basketball to watch. I don't find somebody dribbling the ball for fifteen seconds and then kicking their head back and getting you to locking your arm between their arms, so they can throw both of their arms up in the air and say, oh, and then go into the free throw line this. That's not fun to me. Who is watching free throws who likes watching fouls wants wants to see that. I think it's disappointing that so many people share your feelings. And I think it's okay to feel that way. There's nothing wrong with film free throws. I remember I remember when I was like sixteen years old. There's one point where it was like Elsevier classic rock snob. But when you know when I was a team, and I remember like thinking of some one of my friends, Dan loves Taylor swift. And it's like like Taylor swift or like, how do you like just beaver? And then there came a point in my life are always like, oh, it's no different than me. Liking Jimi Hendrix. Are. You kidding me like different things. And are you are you trying to act like oh, oh. All of a sudden started to appreciate that. I grew up. It's basketball. It's the point is is that people like different things he will have different tastes in for harden. He's a tough acquired taste. I look at him like some people like math rock, I don't really care for math rock but label death row, somebody's what the hell is that some people like jazz, some people hate jazz. What is math rock? Rock about math trust trust. The math. Chris. That's what the rockets do. And that's. You've never even know what that is is a clear pull up like some bathroom can win that list of math rock, actually, it's not fun. Fun to listen to. It's a style of indie rock, that's like. That's influenced by realists music complex time, signatures, complex types. And we found in cords, and like changes in tempo and time signatures, and yeah. Yeah. It's not what you hear on the radio typical four four time. Oh boy. But the point by really gonna have to look into this you comparing James harden math raw. Yes. My point is it sounds. It sounds applicable modestly. My point is this though, Chris is that I'm less interested in arguing about what people like don't like taste are different. Right. That's true in music movies. So he mentioned earlier people like, oh, the cinematography was outstanding. There's some people that watch movies. And that's what they take away from it like they're just blown away like they love. Maybe they'll come away. Oh, the script wasn't great. You know, acting could have been better. But some people watch movies that way and those people are called weirdos. That's what they're they shouldn't be. And it's too bad. It's all like if I'm a weirdo for I if I'm a weirdo. For loving James Harden's a Brady to use his body to manipulate defenders to create space for step bag jumpers for having one of the best handles in the NBA today. If I'm weird for that. So what any draws a lot of falls? I don't let that taint my enjoyment of his brilliance as a scorer. I tweeted the other day his numbers the past five seasons in comparison to Dwayne Wade, Jerry West and Oscar Robertson, you can go down the list to other guys as well. Like, Alan Iverson numbers. He's putting up this season and the past five seasons are historic. And I understand if people don't like that style of play slime means no K, if you don't like it, whatever. But I think it's disappointing that it's tainting the greatness that. We're seeing from him. He's having one of the greatest scoring seasons ever again. And he's continuing his elite scoring success from the past five years. I just think it's disappointing. That's not more appreciated. I don't even know what to say. I think you're right. Kevin people the same way they give a standing ovation for LeBron James dunking on someone. They give a standing ovation for James harden drawing. Another foul because it's just so excited. But why why focus on that so much? Why is it with harden? That's very throws. Yeah. Then team. Okay. He has infinitely more free throws made than he has field goals made over his career that is not true of anybody. He's one of the most unique players ever. That's for damn sure you're right about that. It's it's a weird sil-. We haven't seen a guy to this guy that scores. More than has made more free throws than more field goals by large number over the course of his career when that's not true of any other great players is somehow somebody not being high minded enough to appreciate life throw thought about being high minded or anything. There's nothing to do. With it for one of the drawing thousand people don't like free throws as nothing to do with that Chris. It's simply has to do just I wish people appreciate anymore. That's all I wish he would stop flopping flailing around. That's what I wish fine. But I think part of that like I mentioned with dream on a kicking earlier part of that is just due to the reputation when you can look at the numbers, you can watch the film and see if this happens with other players to and I just find it interesting. How him with his style of jarring falls? Maybe he doesn't just barrel into people draw fouls like some larger players do. That's that their technique. Barreling into a player, and then they naturally get fouled with harden. Sometimes he sees a little bit more phonetic fall. I think there's a quote that I saw from Jerry West someone tweeted this to me the other day, Jerry, West said in his book quickness and the ability to draw fouls as an art. There are people who have great quickness who don't know how to draw falls, and that's true heart onto somebody who is better than anybody at using his body to manipulate defenders to draw fouls. I understand something. We'll don't like that. But I know that that's perfectly basic you greatly. Appreciate that skill. I resent it. Let me like different things because we like different things. That's it with that. I am with ninety nine percent of the basketball watching relation that don't like free throws. That's okay. All right before we go on. Let's quickly discuss our NBA. Watch of the night today is Wednesday January second and the big game going on at eight PM eastern is the Minnesota Timberwolves at the Boston Celtics on ESPN that is going to be the national TV game that everybody can watch at seven central eight eastern. But it sounds like Minnesota's gonna be down some guys going into this gang yet. Tom thibodeau said today that most likely Jeff Teague Derrick rose and Robert Covington we'll be out but the game is still going to be interesting as with Karl Anthony towns this past week scored thirty one thirty four twenty eight points. He's been on a tear. He had that gigantic thirty four. Eighteen rebounds, seven assists, six block three still game against Miami on Sunday. And then with Boston they've gotten back on track as of late getting a handful of impressive performances from Jaylen Brown lately carrier having his past month in December was just outrageous. A lot of star power in tonight's game. And it with an intriguing match-up. Well, I saw Boston since we last spoke. I saw them in person and the grizzlies were killing them at halftime. And then the second Boston came roaring back and ended up winning the game. I saw one of the strangest things I've seen at halftime that you just don't normally see. So I'm walking back. You know, how if you're at an arena, and you walk back to like where the media room is. Yeah. Many times you will walk by a corridor that would lead to the locker room. Right. And so anyways as I'm walking back towards that way. I'm walking by where the self. Ix would be coming out of the tunnel. And in this like hallway right next to me there stands, Kyrie Irving. And he is having this discussion with Danny Ainge right there. Halftime you do not see this often. And whatever it ain't said to him worked does he came back out in the second half? And he was also. But I thought that was very bizarre very rarely. I don't know if I've ever seen a general manager and a player in the middle of a game talking. But this was at half time. They were there for a little while and age and Groesbeck one of the owners were both at the game. But I had never seen that before. And obviously kyri was great in the second half of that game. And the Celtics ended up winning that gay, but it stood out to me greatly. Because it's very uncommon in the midst of the actual forty eight minutes that you would see conversation between two guys like that. But there was like the. This is bizarre. And they were both standing there. I don't know what they were talking about it in eavesdrop. But I mean they were away from everybody else. Like, no other Celtic was around. Nobody else was around. No coaches around nothing who was just angel and Tyree standing in the hallway. I didn't know what it was about. Whenever Danny said the carrier having he must have passed along to Marcus Morris as well. Who else standing in that game? Who by the way, Marcus Morris playing the best basketball his life this season for the Celtics. Oh, yeah. He's I mean, the other thing is he's one of those that when you see him in person much much bigger than you think he oh, just huge six to end and broad as all get out. And he steps out to three and the shot looks good. And they got a lot of talent on that team. That's for sure. 'cause Jason Tatum had one of the most tackler don't I've ever seen in my life in person on a put back, but he didn't do much at all in that game. And it didn't particularly Matt. Her because they've got other guys that can step up. But anyway, yeah. Those one of those strange ones, there's certainly fun to watch play. That'll be someone tonight. Yeah. Minnesota at Boston. And remember you wanna watch every NBA game subscribed to NBA league pass on NBA dot com. Amazon or your local cable or satellite provider. I Kevin five questions. Oh, yeah. For two thousand nineteen in the NBA season the team in the Western Conference with the best chance to knock off the warriors is the Memphis grizzlies. I'm only kidding. I don't want to get back. Same conversation. We were just having. But I think if Chris Paul's healthiest the Houston Rockets, which is a question if Chris Paul's Helios, quite a qualifier. But if he's not it's to be the LA Lakers because was just because of LeBron James, right? I say Oklahoma City. I think Oklahoma City could do the whole we out rebound. You buy a lot and play great great defense for pistons type of style. Right. I just don't think that you don't last year. Houston was able to do it by defensively being able to hold them down and play them in low scoring games. Oklahoma City kind of looks like the team I think that would be able to do that this year. Russell Westbrook can fix himself in the newsroom flashes. Over the past couple of days, he had a huge gaming Phoenix. And then against Dallas. Granted those aren't you know, great teams, but there's been some flashes of him fixing his offense, which has been dismal the season scoring the ball. So if he's able to even just get on a hot streak in a series than in addition to them having an elite defense, maybe they have a shot. I think it was a good choice to okay blank will end up the MVP earlier, we talked about Kawhi Leonard and his monster game. Obviously, we've talked a lot about harden and tear that he has been on when it's. All said and done think we both thought Jaanus had a great chance at the beginning of the season. I would still say honest. Yeah. I think it's on us. I think so too number three Carmelo Anthony plays over under a hundred more NBA games in his career under under fifty. I'll take the under still. Yeah. One. Boy boy. I'll tell you. What man like we're we're now at two months right to your months with him not playing. Oh boy. I mean, he might be under my feet under. Yeah. You think he plays in the play offs? I'll take the over for one. I think somebody's he plays in the playoffs for somebody. I could see it. I don't know of surprised Carello. Anthony was one of your five questions. He's one of the guy's been an all star any premier player for like the last fifteen years. Kevin. Oh, big name. Yeah. And he is without job. You know, the news cycle moves so fast camello is the point of his career. He's on the way out and just you know, move on quickly in the NBA. I guess so oh, this is a good one. And I say that because I wrote it the surprise team. They're not biased at all this apprise team of two thousand and nineteen so two years ago. We had the eleven and thirty Miami Heat go thirty and eleven something like that like down the stretch last year. It was the Utah Jazz who went. Absolutely bonkers post January and were able to get themselves not only in the play offs firmly. But also a first round win. If there is a Miami of two years ago a jazz of last year. What do you think it's going to be the Utah Jazz? All right, again, I think it has to be when you look at the standings. And where teams are at. I think it has to be Utah. They're they're five and five in their last ten, but their defense has been elite since thanksgiving. I believe it ranks second behind Indiana since thanksgiving still if their offense is able to get better than they seem like a strong candidate for that. Why why who's who do you have in mind for that? I don't know if we will have another one of those teams that reels off the thirty and ten you know, what I'm saying. Because that's a roughly about what both of those teams were it's hard to not look at the rockets right now. I mean there I mean, I didn't choose them because they're already kind of they are. Already are. But I mean, they're twenty one and fifteen and so if they ended up with fifty wins at be pretty incredible. Yeah. I mean, I mean, that'd be you. Look at this run recently for Houston winning ten of eleven games led. By James harden, scoring forty points per game with a true shooting of sixty four percent, racking up, assists, and rebounds. I mean, he's the structure has been regardless of everything we talked about earlier, this is just been ridiculous to watch. He's he's unreal. It's not fair to say because either of the other teams that we were presumptive favorites at the beginning of the season. We could see both of them doing it, which are the Celtics and Golden State mean again, if they went thirty and tan down the stretch, it's going to get them to a pretty high number, but we didn't expect them to be twenty five and thirteen for the warriors and twenty one and fifteen for the Celtics at this point right now. So that's not particularly. Fair. Right. It's almost like the teams that we expected to be awesome. Like Boston light, Golden State like Houston are probably the best guesses, but if we're trying to find somebody that's like kinda on the outside looking in like Miami. Once was like Utah. Once was I guess I could go with you on on Utah because they are on the outside looking in. I don't think that you look at the kings the grizzlies the Mavericks, the timber wolves the pelicans, I don't see any of them being able to pull that off the Lakers if they got LeBron BAC possible, but doubtful and then in the Eastern Conference. The wizard now that they've gotten John wall out of their system. They should be like auto porter. Brad Beal like a new lease on life. And you know, I it's like we talked about argument on Twitter last December Almost almost a year to the day. I think it was the summer thirtieth. 2017 we had this argument on Twitter about how the grizzlies losing. Conley. And go Seoul was probably for the best. They'd get a chance at a top pick with Washington if they get worse without John wall instead of better if they got worse. I don't think that that's going to happen. Don't we'll see we'll see the last year with Sattar an sqi moving the ball around Bradley bill's gonna get more pick and roll opportunities because he knew dimensions of his game going to be interesting to watch this team without wall. You know, what's interesting when I saw that news come out. That is exactly how the Conley injury was described with the bone spur on the achilles. Oh, and it's a bitch. I mean, it's gonna take him a long time to get back. And he wasn't in great shape. Already. Like us already a guy. That when everybody saw during the summer, they thought he had blown up a little bit in a when you have to be would that rehab process is bad. And obviously, you can't be doing a ton of exercise, and it didn't look like John wall did a tunnel exercise, even when he was opening. Well, this offseason either way they should be taking pay from the grizzlies playbook and tank in the hell I mean Chris tank, but they should be trying to fall fall fall in the standings. I think they'll make the playoffs that offer the best if they do easily for the worst if they do. Chris if the grizzlies made the playoffs as an eighth seeing us smoked in the first round last year they wanted to have Jaren Jackson. That's true. That is true. And the wizards make the playoffs and get pounded in the first round by Milwaukee. They're not going to have a chance at Zion RJ Barrett or even like a lesser prospect like Kevin porter someone like that. I'm glad you said this Kevin because the last one is the two thousand nineteen number one pick in the NBA draft will be Williamson. Really, I think. So you think it is without cause you enter that fast. I don't think it's without question. There are still NBA people that I've talked to that have RJ ranked are Barrett. Zion's? He made a Duke ranked number one. There's people who still view him as a better all around pro. So no, I think it depends on which team ends up landing the pick. And with the new lottery odds, the flattened Dodds there's an increased chance team, you know, with the eighth or ninth or tenth best on. Odds could jump up to that spot. So I think these ion or Jay baron. I just I don't see anybody else elevating. So that number one spot besides those two, but I I would lean toward Zion. This kid at Murray state's got a ton of talk man people. I I've been reading a lot of stuff John grants killing it sophomore point guard. He even got a shout out on a when Durant did that podcast with Simmons? That was one of the first times that I saw him get big pub. He was when he was asked about which was an obvious. Kevin Durant really keeps up with all this because he shouted out the kid, which I thought was interesting. I mean, you got obviously very busy when you are an NBA player in everybody knows ion. But there was Kevin Durant talking about John Moran. John Marantz is the type of player who his ball handling ability is a legally get anywhere on the floor that he wants his three pointer needs to get better. But he can get to the rim at will as he develops and get stronger. He he could be a guy. Guy who draws a lot of falls on the NBA just saying. He one of those guys that gets to the rim and his. South Carolina leading get out of the state may lie. I guess late bloomer, you know. Yeah. But I mean that would have been right after they made the final four, right? He's a sophomore at have been right after South Carolina. Was there the final four could have brought this kid in. Wow. He's exciting for sure I think he's I think you could easily play into the top five conversation. Not number one. But top five conversation with with his performance. That's to do it for today show. Kevin. I hope you enjoy your afternoon of watching James harden. Draw foul. Yeah. Math rock Nath rock. Yeah. Cinematography? Having a occurs. I'm here forward to another year of doing this with you. It's been great be new year to you. I am too. Thanks to Isaac Lee. As always gonna do it for today's show. If you dig what you're handle rating on review on I tunes five stars five stars. It really helps. And we will talk to you next week.

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Mason and Ireland HOUR TWO

"I don't know if I've mentioned this. But. I love the ramps. The Ray you're part of the Ramle. I'm part of the rambling. Section six sections, which is a per. She's actually eight technically, right? That would have been the appropriate section eight probably would have been. Sakes are better seats, and I was at the Super Bowl and had a long hangover that that came with that. Jeff Katz is in for John and joining us right now, it's the executive vice president of football operations and chief operating officer of the Rams Kevin demo. Hey, Kevin Hart, man, I'm good. But I I want to know what do you take to cure Super Bowl hangover, you know, eight his just taken time taken some time. How are you? I think for for everybody here it takes some time. But getting into the twenty nineteen season bid free agency and the excitement around getting Eric wide. All getting Dante Fowler back starting season ticket push. And really getting back into the rhythm of the off season has been exactly what we needed the punt of energy and excitement around our building and ready to go or on a C. Crown? Let me ask you about sort of this is this has been a gigantic story and gigantic mystery is Todd Gurley and his knee. What's the status of his knee? I guess the big question is is there are thrice there. You know? I think the status one is knees. The mystery. I think is the fact that you're because well what's wrong, you had a player who had an injury dealing with some inflammation towards the end of the season sat out a couple of weeks turn to no month, given that we had the by you know. But then, you know, I think when you impact he in practice against the Cowboys are fastest player and our GPS machines. Right. So and then you get into some games played well against the Cowboys again the saints and patriots game, we decided strange offensive flow. And so I think when you get into, you know, Sean said on Tuesday, wear and tear inflammation. He's led the league and carries yards and touchdowns. The last two years when you factor in receptions, and I I think that is it's only wear and tear. You get him into a full off-season getting back to rehab, and then I think we expect out of the Todd Gurley you know, back and making a difference in our offense. But I, you know, really when you get down to it as as I told someone the other day in the last six Blaine this someone who's well holding call the Super Bowl does not get called Todd Gurley. Rips off a fifteen yard run. We have the ball and patriots side of the field. He may be Super Bowl v. If we continue. That drive and win the game. So, you know, I think at some point you have to look at the narrative is great. There's something drastically wrong. But you know, just because we didn't have our best offensive game in the Super Bowl doesn't mean that Todd Gurley is never gonna play again. Kevin. There's no question. The perception of the organization across the league has changed fundamentally from when you guys first arrived in L A to the point. Now that you have multiple teams sort of trying to rip off your model. They all want the next young coach, I wonder is there any sort of institutional pressure or thought process to even try to vary things up a little bit to stay ahead of all these people nipping at your heels woke I think the goal is to continue to you know, one of the things we talked about this off season. You want to be team one year division against gets a buy because I think all of us in our fans saw and Steve was the game. When you get a buy it makes your postseason so much easier. You have one game to win at home to get to the NFC championship. And then you've got one game to play to get to the Super Bowl. And so I think for us. It's always about innovation. I think the great thing about having a Sean McVeigh who's always tinkering with his team. I remember this time. A year ago was people are gonna figure out Sean McVay offense. And it's going to be a one year wonder and certainly come back. And I think we're number two in the league. You know, implants, again, you know, less Sean, you know, Tony pastor's oversees our salary cap in football ministration. They're always trying to figure out ways to stay ahead of the curve. And I don't think we've figured anything else out yet. I mean, we've had two good seasons, you know, back to back. But I think it comes with innovation and really proud when you look back fill out two years under Sam we've led the league and regular season wins tied with the patriots. And saints. We believe in points scored in point differential. But there are those years are behind us, and we have to figure out a way to do that all again in twenty nineteen. You're listening to Caspian Los Angeles Kevin off executive vice president football operations chief operating officer of the is with us Mason in Ireland ESPN LA. So according to multiple people that I trust on Twitter. You guys have about eight to nine million dollars left in salary cap space. Can you give us an idea of what what the organization's priorities are why I haven't read Twitter to see where we're out on the cap Tony sheet this morning, but said we had about nine point three million dollars when you factor in draft picks, and and our day tender, so we have about nine million dollars plenty of money to go shopping in this kind of phase the fridge within it's amazing. We're only forty dollars in your almost to phase two, and you know, by this weekend, you'll really be into phase three and four and when the value start to to align. And I think we've done really well on those pages, and you look at the past few years, whether it's an account Roby call man, you know, John Sullivan, you know, even this remake Wilson comes in late in contributes in Mexico against Green Bay. This is where I think your personnel staff really can can make a difference. So there are a bunch of guys we have in our radar to go look in fall off the team. But I think you know, we looked at their also today. Sean kind of what at the starting twenty two the. A team. And he says, I think there's absolutely team. We can go to fend, you know, or NFC west title within we still have the draft and trade. And I think that's the one thing. I don't think anybody has copied or model nor do I think we have one that is on its own. But I think the one thing Sean, m lesson Tony a proven is it they'll go through any avenue to find a player, whether it's a trade whether it's late in free agency. Whether it's a big signing, you know, whether it it's getting into training camp and finding guys whether it's finding C J Anderson in December, right? The the building your fifty three man roster is never over. And I know for fans, you know, you always wanna done by by March. But I think, you know, our tension between the draft and free agency is trying to get that depth up. We feel pretty good about starting unit. But he always trying to think of what that depth to get better. Coming up curious what you what's the most noticeable or palpable thing that you've seen in terms of the connection to the fan base? Even coming off of a Super Bowl loss. You have had a level of success in just a few years in this market that I don't think anybody could have predicted when you've come do you get the sense now that this is a Rams town at the bottom line everywhere. The connection has been fully made. I don't know the connections ever made it I think you go through every year while you're trying to reestablish that connection and make it even stronger. I think that's true for us. I think probably true for the Lakers and dodgers. And in every other team. You know in town. You're always trying to strengthen that connection. You can never think you're done. And you know, I think this past year certainly went along way after after twenty seventeen but the the key moment for us this year, and I would even stack up against the game against the chiefs with such an amazing for our franchise. Incredible. Be and I would argue for our fan base and even locally that game was more important than the Super Bowl. Ron just because of what it meant emotionally to honor the first responders and to have five days sell at the Coliseum and get seventy seven thousand people into that building the Super Bowl run with fantastic. But I think that emotional connection really was validify with the cheese and for the game was so so unbelievable in LA. You know, I've always believed it's going up here. Coming back is it is a big event city and truly that is what people come out for. For you know night in night out. It's a big event city. And so this year when you look at hey, we play four teams went to the plows. We're going to have prime time games. Those your opportunities to solidify the fan base. And then I I think people still discount because they don't think anybody has any real idea. What it is that new stadium? It's coming online and sixteen months is going to be a game changer. You know for Rams fans and the entire NFL, and quite frankly sporting universe. So, you know, for us the work each day is about connecting with the fans, you're never at the point. We feel like we've got done, you know, every day you have to make it stronger and build and there's a kid being born somewhere today in the inland empire who needs to become a Rams fan. And that's always the way we look at it so season tickets go on sale today renewals. Go on sale. I've I will do that before the day is up Kevin is a season ticket holder. Tell me about the benefits tell everybody about the benefits of being ram season ticket holder. Well, I think you know, I heard the debate between section six and section eight. I have not figured out the new call him map, but it some other funky number that that I I don't know. The answer. But I think the big the biggest thing works out about is finally getting to renovate a call seeing this year. So better seats throughout the building. Not just the ones who replaced last year, but everybody will have new seats WI fi better concessions better restrooms. You know, improved experience we have the new scholarship tower for those who want to do that. But I think really far fans, you know, the noticeable thing that comes with it. And I love being able to say this is one of the best benefits for season ticket holders and season ticket pricing for play offs. And I think you saw that for the Dallas game which want to be in the hottest ticket in the NFL in law's five years in the playoffs. You know, having the ability to secure your seats in the playoffs for for that amount of dollars is something that we think are fans can I'll look at it and say, okay, that's a reasonable chance. The team they hope to playoff game. Whether it's getting to go to extra events getting no making sure our season ticket holders, always pay the lowest price, whether it's going to the drop day parties, you know the training camp day, which was so much fun. This year. I season ticket holders of Iran. I think all of those benefits really add up and make people feel valued. I think gets back to Jeff's question of how. You build that connection. It's making us stronger connection their season ticket holders every day. No other fans, and I think this your, you know, one of the things we John we've taken away a preseason game. And you know, they're probably a few diehards who will miss that. But for everybody else to pay less for your tickets, and you did a year ago because the game is going to Hawaii. I think is a great thing. The game is going to Hawaii. I'm actually really excited I'm going to Hawaii for that game man that it may not call you. That's true. That's true game on less. You can convince those bosses the DSP and seven ten that you need to come with the team for a few days and then broadcasts remotely and then we'll sneaky on the planes, really important do that. Yeah. So the one thing I always say to you. Because people ask me, you're a season ticket holder. You must be a high roller and the truth is there are a lot of different price points on on season tickets. It's like you can buy really great. But it's you can buy season tickets. If you're just if you're a Rams fan, and you're out there, and you think it's too expensive. You can buy season tickets start at three hundred fifty dollars for the whole season. And really I mean, they they top out our highest price season ticket. I think as one thousand nine hundred dollars. So you know, we're still among in the league average lightly around that number for season tickets. So it is not expensive in. You know, quite frankly that number will not bump up a ton. When you go to Englewood, you have to seat license to purchase it into out on top of the beginning. But our goal is to make sure season tickets are affordable. And you know, one of the things that was. Important to us this year in the final year of the call was really not to raise those prices on a per game basis, we reallocated some things given your the missing game. We have one game in London one game in Hawaii. But everybody in the building will pay with the exceptional one. One group of the benches in the end zone, and now has regular seats. Everybody else will pay less for their season tickets this year than they did a year ago. And so I think you know, I still hope that we're a great value for people to come and get a chance and explore the game. And whether it's, you know, sitting sixty eighty dollars one hundred game, I think when you look at the experiences we had last year whether it was the Minnesota game, which was an unbelievable primetime experience followed up Green Bay when you look at Kansas City, Philadelphia. I thought our tickets were a great value last year in return, exactly what people expected going, you know, eight and one at home including the playoffs, and we have to go through that again, one of these benefits that actually raised my eyebrows when I saw it, and I know it's happening league-wide is the idea that is a season ticket holder. You'll get free NFL red zone on your phone. And I'm curious about the. Impact of red zone league wide when it comes to getting people into the stadium because I just know myself as a transplant fan like I live on that thing and sort of the debate that went into factoring into allowing people to use it get as part of being a season ticket holder because I think it's very smart. Why did it's one of those things you want people to be able to see Reginald, and I particularly love watching Reginald. It's not just 'cause 'cause Andrew cecillia honors the preseason voice of the Rams, you know, loyalties and ticket holder. So we always thank him for for that. But I let the mazing product project product anyone you're out, you know, whether you're taking kids to karate in the morning like I do on the BI weekend. And therefore you're watching on your phone you want people to be able to follow the action all across the league. And so I think it's one of those things that you try to get as many benefits to season ticket holders as you can't and people who may not be season ticket holders. Mary have red zone that maybe the way they watch the games and and enjoy it. But I also think one of the important things, and I actually believe this about Los Angeles is the city is no still city of transplants you about how. You were born here. Half warn, you know, and just because you you moved here on your a Pittsburgh Steelers fan doesn't mean you're automatically Rams fan. We're trying to get you to be that. Then if the team, but you may still wanna follow the Steelers while you're on the way to our game. Or, you know, one of the things I love about playing on the west coast is, you know, there's always an early games. So if you're a fan, you wanna come tailgate you wanna come down to the stadium on the metro, and you wanna watch, you know, the highlights from your team that you grew up with on the east coast. That's great. We don't wanna take that away from you. We wanna make sure that it's easier. And I think it's important across the league. But it's especially important, you know, for those fans now lay who are still getting used to the live NFL experience. I'm getting a few questions on Twitter. One of them is what are we doing with C J Anderson is he still in play for this team this year? Absolutely. I think when you look at what CJ did coming in at the end of the year and really contributing, you know, I think our with CJ, I think lesson Sean this is always go see what the market looks like if there's a chance that at the end of the year you played yourself into a starting role in value somewhere else. That's great. If not let let's certainly see. Explore those options were fortunate that Malcolm Brown coming back, you know, as well on on the RFA tender. So so I think that is absolutely play. All right. Hey, kevin. Thank you very much for coming out. We appreciate it up on Twitter or say say the one more time did they update the recap on Twitter. They've got you. With somebody's got you at eight six and somebody's got you at nine three sounds like nine three is the right number. It's good to see my burner account is working. There you go Durant. Hey, kevin. Thank you very much for coming on, man. We appreciate it. My pleasure guys. Thanks so much. All right. Cool. And do we have it. Right. It's at the LA Rams dot com is the let me just make sure that they're doing it the right way, by the way in terms of trying to lure transplants into t totally understand the market. They're in and say, no, listen come watch your team on the way over. It's very smart. Yeah. Just tweeted out a link. It's the Rams dot com for season ticket information one of the best investments I ever made. I've had so much. You clearly love it. I so much you can tell. Yeah. For whatever it's worth, I have a blast with those games those last. All right. Jeff katz. Filling in for John Ireland coming up next whole bunch of new rules. They're toying with with major league baseball. And some really really good ones. That's coming up next for you, Mason and Ireland ESPN life. So I got a couple of things to make sure get in here. First of all, it's Laker ticket Thursday. So at some point this hour, you'll have a chance to win a pair of tickets Lakers. Wizards on March twenty six also Lakers fifth row. Friday's going on something that one of us has said any of us have said we'll be on a pop quiz Tamar as an Thursday is Thursday question today what Molly Kerem calls it Friday eve. It's good shortens the week a little bit Friday eve, we've got tickets see Lakers Hornets marched, the twenty ninth in the fifth row. An autograph basketball chairman's. Passes and a super guts gift card a question from each day this week fifth row Fridays. Brought to you by super-coach. Save time. Check it online and let cats get game ready. Visit supercars dot com. All right. So baseball announces a whole bunch of of rules changes. Most of these agreed to buy players, and we'll get to alternately what the players have not signed off on that rob Manfred could unilaterally impose so one of the things that I think is so frigging smart now, I love the homerun derby. I'm I the homerun derby the all star game is really fun for me to watch. And it's become a gigantic revenue event. You know, the actually apple able to fill an entire stadium just to watch the homerun derby and the rest of the stuff on that day. So they are going to put up a million dollar. Prize to whoever wins, the homerun derby and two and a half million dollars in total prices. Now, I think for a million dollars guys will much more likely participate. Some of the guys that maybe have never participated like Mike trout, Aaron judge who didn't participate this this last year for a million dollars. I think it's worth getting in there and getting some swings. I'm more likely to watch it if there are time someone who really is over all star games in all sports at this point. I just can't have a heart and baseball was by last holdout phase baseball's the only one to me that it's got some real some stuff at still sample it I'll watch it when it's on. Whereas I find most of the rest skip -able. My one question is that in a world of Bryce Harper's contract. Is that knowing the people who have ruined their swings midseason chasing, the homerun contest of which we've seen a bunch of examples guys who take a couple of months to recover is a million bucks worth it. I think where I cost them where I come from Jeff we yes, we call. Million dollar. Yes. A million dollars. I don't care who a million dollars talking about luring big stars. Right. Well, does Bryce Harper one to increase the salary from twenty five million a year to twenty six million for a particular season. That's significant. I think I think we're much more likely to get big names to participate. Don't you Greg? Yeah. No, absolutely. If you're giving them incentive with money than yes. They'll absolutely come. And you'll have better guys than hey, Zeus, aga- Laren Kyle Schwarzer. But I think in the NBA all star game. I think at one point Bill Simmons or somebody put up an idea where the players actually had to put their own money in and you're playing. Actually watched that look if I'm Bryce Harper. I'm not putting pot, but if I can win a million dollars each of these data shot these events to your point. It's to baseball's credit, and I criticize them for a lot like they have turned this into their own equivalent of all star Saturday night, basically. Yeah. Yeah. And your attendance with with a with a bigger and by the way, does a big number for ESPN every year. So we're all agreed on that this I think is really cool all star, boating. So all star voting will proceed like it normally does. And we'll all get our I guess we'll just go online to get the call stack for ballots. Fill them out for my guys, you know, to stuff the ballot box it so that's going to change. Because once we reach a particular date the last day of voting the top three at each position will go into a run-off. Oh, I love a twenty four hour run off to see who gets that possess. You refer refresh the vote basically among the three you re another words those of the three and you are starting from scratch. I like that elect the the shortstop from the nationally that elect the second basement from the American made for social media her fit for social media perfect for Twitter vote for altuve Evo for Justin Turner, vote for what are you shaking, your agreeing with because this is it's taking the final vote that they've been doing the last few years when Justin Turner got in over the last. The accident guy. They're just taking that which had huge response and doing it for every single position in. It's great. And you know, what to your plan? That's a great point. When it also does baseball's got a star problem. And this is the way to at least in automatically tollway person that guys a casual fan here are three names at this position. Right. Here's they played for these teams get to know who they are. That's a really smart on multiple level play so perfect as as we said for social media single, July thirty first trade deadline now, I love this. What I don't want is for some, you know, like the Astros did like we could have done the screwy post deadline grab Justin Verlander in time for five starts, and then he carries you to the World Series. Instead, July thirty first, you know, your roster is going to become final you can't claim guys off waiver and waivers and get them in August or get them just before the rosters become final for the postseason postseason eligibility. I think the sing. Eagle July thirty first trade deadline is going to make for a really intense month of July and major league baseball. There's no wiggle out. There's no out something is not going to figure out how to explain to live thirty first July thirty first because I'm with you. I I've never understood the way I hate the waiver complicated. It's this grow. Don't tell me of a trade deadline and then make a trade two weeks. Labourite grabbed like it's like an NBA when you have I'm for it, by the way. Yeah. But it's like in the NBA when you can sign buyout guys afterwards. Right. It's basically the buyout market. Right. It's the same thing. And but they're taking that away and making it. So now, you're going to have buyers and sellers, and you are once the trade deadline comes your either a buyer or you're a seller, and that's firm. Yes. And you are so you're either going into full tank mode or full go for it mode. And that's what we're going to get starting August, I, but I mean, increasingly there certain teams like this last year, Tampa Bay hung around Oakland hang hung around and teams that you would think might be sellers actually went out and. Made moves Gillette because July on July the thirty first a lot of teams we still be in the hunt with a two wildcard league absolute right to full thinking about the months left still of baseball. And it doesn't allow teams to dump big name players after July the third I in just yield them for nothing on the on the waiver market. There's one more here. I want to mention then we'll come back and do some more. This is just a no brainer commercial breaks during innings will be shortened by twenty seconds to two minutes, which adds up that adds up more than you think makes a door. The pitchers are gonna get a little bit more tired because they're not gonna have as much time to get their warm ups in, but you should be pretty. Ability to legal using openers and closers manner. That's what the bullpen is. Right. Bullpen is to get. Well, the the rest of is make use of the bullpen is not for that anymore. Right. I think short of fewer commercials. Find always good. I've argued for two minute breaks here on. Do you think we can go to two minute breaks? Let's talk to the otter talk to the otter. Let's just have two minute breaks. We do on right in the middle of fasttrack fasttrack in two minutes. Right. I think it works. I liked that notice that since I've been man. All right. I get actually there's there's one that is going to cause a lot of controversy and has got Greg all riled up. And I think he's making a mistake on this one because there's more strategy involved than he's thinking of maybe in his head. That's that was very sloppy. Listen. Yeah. Can't all be John through tease. But it's it's it's the controversial rule that will go into effect in twenty twenty Mason and Ireland Jeff Katzen for Johnny SPN alike. I Jeff Katz is in for John Ireland. We're going through some of these. New baseball rules. It's by the way, we're two weeks away from opening day two weeks away from opening day. You know, what that means baseball? The coming of spring baseball is argue with there's like the two great sporting times of year. This is what when you get this the NCAA tournament the masters like wrestlemainia, you can get a run of sports rights. It's the coming of spring. It's this a fun time. Yeah. Off pushes in Bachi in basketball. Like, you exactly. I I think that this time of year as of Monday, by the way, I will become I will be a complete expert on the NCWA tournament field. Right. Sunday selection Sunday. Well, like any good sports radio all show up and pretend like we watched more than five college basketball games during the regular season. Right. UCLA's not in it. You probably want some UCLA games. Didn't you? I not gonna lie. I watched maybe a half of UCLA basketball student my one, and I don't watch a Michigan state. They're always pretty they're always good. I barely like I watched five NCW turn into always death taxes emission states. What we what was always my favorite sport by far. And it's I've just I don't know why the shine came off it the one AA tournament. Is it the one because you don't you don't you can't fall your players anymore? They're there for for year. They're gone, and you then you have to start all over with a brand new player. That's there for a year, and then they're gone. So you have no idea who you're team. There's no continuity, not just that also they've Bank. It's the only thing anybody cares about in the entire season. And so you've basically treading water until then as it is the short in the season, frankly. Well, yeah, the problem is this is why I. Pose a a dramatically larger college football playoff. It's because it it makes it renders the regular season unimportant. You know, if you go to eight teams when Ohio State plays Michigan at the end of the air. It's very possible that they'll both be in Alabama plays Auburn at the end of the air. Well, it's possible though, both being the loser. That game can still make the playoffs in college basketball. Basically everybody gets in right? It does. I would argue I think eight teams and football we could survive. I would never go to sixteen anything like that. But I can't argue with you that college basketball. It is a one month sport, Jeff is pointing this is this coming month, and we're all experts now Zion. He's reading writing the game. Steve that's the one team. I've watched I feel like like, I know our Jay baron. I know Cam radish, I know Zayn Williamson the threes. They'll get bounced Zion is is I income and back tonight for the tournaments. He's healthy. So we'll watch it again. There you go. Oh, yeah. It's all about Zion. All right. So we're talking about new baseball rules. Here is one that I'm completely in favor of it. It will start in. Well, actually mound visits will be reduced from six to five starting this year, which means those moments when the manager comes out and just talk to the pitcher or the first basement third baseman catcher all converge on the pitching mound to talk to the pitcher. That will only happen. Six times this year next year. It will open only happen four times that is a time consuming the game. And it's a it's this weird ritual. Everybody gets together on the mound. The manager of the umpire, then has to wait, however, long is. Come on guys. It all breaks we can do with less of that. I mean, that's totally fine. It's not the days of bull Durham anymore where they're just out there talking and winning gift. They're gonna candlesticks are nice. Yeah. Exactly nice gift that are not the way that mound visits work anymore. But yes, it doesn't matter. Five six who cares? Yeah. Four it. I don't think I think they're going to go to four next year. I think the the angels were the only team that really ran outta mound visits at all this last year. Is that right? Which is you should be fired for that. That is the major league baseball should be like, listen, man. We're trying to team always annoyed me. We always played them. The playoffs to was Saint Louis and Yati Molina would just yes, Yati Malino was constantly walking are pitcher. It was. So unbelievably annoying. So. Yeah. Four mound five this year and four next year. And then the controversial one pitchers starting next year. And they're still trying to get an agreement on this. But it sounds like it's definitely happening pitchers will be required to face a minimum of three batters in a game. You don't lie. I'm I get it from a purist point of view why you might not like that Greg. But you know, what this is this is. A huge issue in terms of reaching audience. This is the easiest time cut. We've I'm so oh God bringing the left-hander. You get this one out. And now we're going to say this is the mother of all time sucks when it comes to major league baseball. So I can't I completely understand the strategic criticism from somebody who's a purist. Bob, Costas, probably not happy about this. But I get it. I can't argue it. I don't I don't as a purist. I don't love it. But and I've said this, you know, a bunch on the show. You know, I'm going to be there. No matter what I'm a bait. That's right. It's everybody else that I want to watch the game. It's the casual fans that I want the new, and you want to be there when you're gone, and I wanted to be fun. Attention spans are short and anything we can do to make the game not even shorter. But just create more action is good for the game. Greg. You completely disagree on you? Yes. No. I do completely disagree. But you don't like listening to me as much, but you love Jayson stark. Right. You like Jason stark. You listen starts. I don't know where he's working now. But yeah, I don't. No either. But he said that. I know I know he's with. Spectrum enough to research, but. Said he so how many pitchers in the entire sport all of MLB had twenty plus appearances last year in which they faced just one batter. How many how many thinking were they were how many how many twenty or more appearances with just one better? The individual. More the answer. The answer is one one guy, Jerry Blevins was the okay how many of them? Did it ten times company? Did it have? How many times only six other pitchers? Did it fifteen plus times? How many did it happen as much? I don't I only have what why do you care? Right. When you add that all up that his time. Why why do you care? It's because it's not going to speed up the game. It's going to eliminate dead time within the game. I don't I it's not going to make every minute. You've got somebody warming up. It was a moment that somebody's potentially particularly somebody who's a millennial or generation Z guy is tuning out. So it's going to go from three oh four game time. Again. I I don't know how to get your shooting five minutes. That sounds like nothing five minutes is actually alarm, and it goes to overtime when it goes over ten minute goes extra innings it. That's all blown up the world. We're sure extra innings are renting. Yeah. When there's a game, that's like a Kershaw versus of shirts her match up, and it goes, two and a half hours. And it's real quick. See I think there's a lot of strategy with pitchers who have to face a minimum of three batters because I'm no longer. Allowed to say. Well, let's just say Tony sin groti, always gets Paul Goldschmidt out. But I can burn them out on that one guy. I'm gonna use them in that what? Now, I've got a thing. Now, I've gotta think Tony syncronise. He the right guy to face the next three batters, I've got to go in, and I've gotta look at splits on a pitcher and three different batteries that may mean I've got to go with somebody who can get the second two guys but struggles with Goldschmidt see to me. There's just as much strategy. And by the way, we'll talk about this next year. We'll say why did he why did he put synchrony there when he knows that the second guy is going to face is is Goldschmidt and Goldschmidt owns them. Sure. And there's so many times where this this isn't really going to happen that often, but we're talking about what's going to happen is it's going to be less time. Let's dead time. That's the point. I was not the total time. The matters. It's less dead time. The average baseball game last year you want more offense. You want more ball in play balls in? Play. Robot? Uncle do short robot on will create more balls in play on. We're all onboard with one hundred percents because it will create a uniform strike zone. A universal strike zone. And. We could imply is absolute no brainer. And but you're taking away from the the pitching aspect of the game. There's two you understand. You're going to watch the game. No matter what I understand. But this people are going to do you want the game to survive and thrive or do you want the game to stick your old ways? But all of these people all these people that you're talking about that say, oh, it's boring because there's too much pitching the strikeouts or too many. They're going to say now, there's quite so ever. I do his boring. All they do is. I do think in in this respect analytics have not necessarily been friendly to the game of baseball because it is strike out or homerun. Sure, we've now gone through three straight years of three last three years have been more home runs than the season than any time in history. And we're still board. It's feast or famine base that you understand a home run. Just leaves the art Pete. I'm talking about doubles. I'm talking about triples. I'm talking about balls put in play. Well, that's why I'm against the shift. I want more than the idea is to create more actually game capital or of all you want the game. To now be a lavish in game game every single not necessarily. But I want action you want the games to be five six five then you want to score. And you're saying that he just wants them done in a reasonable time. No. And I want them to get yours filled with action. I don't want said all that pitchers garbage because he gives up ten hits a game. And he's giving up he has a three and a half. Why do you care becoming because that's boring this way, I was like the battle between the two you don't think you don't think max Scherzer will still be max Scherzer in this world. Max Scherzer is still going to throw shutouts. Do you ever Greg? Good, right. MLB the show. Okay. Because you've got your PlayStation, the people that make MLB the show, which is the only I think baseball game you can get out of than RBI baseball. But it is the best baseball game that they might take him even the people that make it have figured out. They have a mode that allows you to play a complete game only when your positional player is actually in the course of playing of video recognize even the heart yielded the harboring or. Fair that's buying the game even wants it done quicker because they don't have the time to sit through nine innings when they're playing the game there 'cause you're playing a game. You're not watching a sport. It's the same institutional issue. I don't think they're separate because that's a hardcore baseball consumer that's buying that game. And they don't wanna play the full. I don't wanna watch the ball. Go. Get a dribbler up to the don't wanna pay the phone. I don't if I'm playing right field. And I have a guy in the batter comes up and. Yeah, you're just not gonna you're not gonna understand just concede to you, Greg. You're not going to stand raise this is confusing to you know, it's confusing. Confused that has no not at all you confused. You're not making. You're not making clear argument. I don't even know what you're trying to say. Your argument is that it's going to put in more offense. Correct. More balls in play more than Lawrence definition, which we have not necessarily often. That's right. More action. I see, but I argued that pitching and a back door slider. That gets a guy swing off his his action. Does that is fine. That is action. That's part of it. Sure. That doesn't mean more ball shouldn't be put in play. That doesn't mean we shouldn't get rid of the shift. So that we actually see threaded Davis would make the defensive play. But it required the ball being planned to play for him to make the spectacular. That's all we have we have a disagreement on what I I don't think that we need to get rid of make this three Batterman about I want to I want the game to survive and thrive. The game is survived and thrived for over one hundred years. That is the world is changing. Dabbed? Or are you the guy that thinks that radio is going to eventually go? No because people have been saying radios dying. I hope. That we're in it. But somebody people talk about somebody on this whole thing radio is dying. When the CD came really was dying when Sirius XM. No, I I understand. But they're still only one gonna be there. Still only one block while Lazio score based on where in the world. Well, that's totally different world. Adapter die. All right. Coming up next. Let me see. What are we going to do here? Let's let's circle back to oh, we're going to go to fasttrack. Okay. Cool then after fasttrack apparently at some point in genie buses head. She did think well, we could trade LeBron James. 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From NY to LA (w/ The Latinos Out Loud Podcast Crew)

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From NY to LA (w/ The Latinos Out Loud Podcast Crew)

"They got als buddy at key with a very special Spanish presents some very special guest introduce so you guys but I'm like they're here. Why don't they enter already ladies first? What's up everybody? Hello Yo yo Yo. It's raid Great Salah Laga a one bucko salty. Hello everybody says Frank spiracy nibs in the House ah now and then today from sap. Of course. Carlos I say skirt uh listen Tony is taking care of his civic duty as you say constituent of the city of Los Angeles jury duty already this point because I worked for a chairman in the city of Miami and like I learned that word for All my God. I've been done using an Improv scene. But it never works cut fish nobody gets four. syllables is a lot. It's a lie lower. Take the what's up you guys. You're here from New York. I WANNA give special shot out to someone that kind of like connected us. Even though I've got a lethal you WANNA and Rachel did. Did you did their Parkas in April. Yeah Yeah but our friend our mutual friend Layla she she just had always amazing things to say about you. All right. Let's do it. Let's connect the this route. And now we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA get this short coming in the podcast. Okay I'll see you could so you guys got here. You got here this morning anymore. We're looking at a bunch of Suitcases over here. Have you guys been to Labor for this. Is My first time for impressions. Let's talk about in Burbank. Last time specifically right so I've never been to L. A. Magical I think honestly I was telling Donald we will be. I think like the weather. Everything is amazing. Assist right actually right now in New York right now. Is that like where it starts. Nice and and shitting like that for a long time. That's like that's a way to describe so many things. Shaw Shaw who knows Uber driver. which by the way overtime hours here in La? They're very chatty describing how we had. I like an eighty degree day the other day. But we don't appreciate it because it's like we're getting to sixty degrees and sweater and then you smack us when an eighty degree weather day. So it's Kinda yeah. Yeah that's on the docket for you guys. What are you guys planning to do while you're here? Oh that is a great question. Should we took the professional user. Okay where are they. huddling three Category this is what we're GonNa do get lineup and the formation and we're GonNa talk all these meetings head on. Are you ready. They have a lot actually. We're going to do a couple of podcast show mad love. That's what it's all about right now hasn't project for us just a podcast. Airwaves putting was out there. I love the podcast like family. Yes cross country connection that we you guys are like you guys so much. I look thank you guys so crazy that we have like we do these like dumb little things and then you have people like having a conversation with you in the middle of nowhere. I connect with you on this level and wow I ran into somebody one time recently. UCB Yeah and I was there to see us show and the woman like right in front of me in line to like. I know your voice has young feeling sick nick anyway. And we're all here for hispanicized panel you inside. Yeah I'm announcing the awards. I'm a presenter Tony that is so great you have a surprise is in for you. Okay Oh boy you may hear my voice saying the nominee. Oh number one I just I wanna say I love that the Mohandas charge going. There's talk for listen. We're going to have Anwar you to huddling. Now we saw you guys are going to be a part of our entire episode today. We wanted to have you guys be a part of our gifts. Beka sex-change Tony here. He usually does a song. Yeah I was wondering if there was anybody buddy here that was inspired to as your listeners. Want we want to Dan. Yeah yeah all right. So good EPICA beaming happy. Yeah that was my might be edited out but that will be most of the episode. Yeah well Abby listen I don't want to talk about here but you know what we're friends my child at Goma Pika and it's like really Meta candle familial. It's personal can I talk about family and the way here frank told me not to enriches gone to always at opposite as the youngest of three in this Latino will multicultural family to be quite quite honest Dominican in Russian but we're Latinos to the team. There's this responsibility that I have to take care of my parents. You know they take care of media let me watch. It's my kids now and I feel like I have to stay in New York. My brother and sister fled. My brother went to Tampa North Carolina for a better life. Hey props them better. Life New Yorkers fucking expensive but they went not me. I'm so in recently because my father is Jewish and very good with his finances he went to the bank and get all this information about how to do a trust and or how to change what he has now into a trust and basically basically taking care of us in the future and he wants me to be the executives of this and all that means is like when this day which I hope. It's very far from now. I'm very close with my parents. Yeah I'm just going to be the one his his his yoga. And here's my listeners. The COD scoops of hi. It's not extra. Pay Extra to tell you this. This is what they left for you. And and that's decided upon already. I don't say x percent ninety percent foaming uh-huh that's not how it goes down. But my brother got so upset that I was chosen to be this person. And it's already created a stinging dynamic game become quite sad yeah actually out into other members of your family as well. This is so fresh. This just happened while yeah we WANNA call him and see. What's up what? I would love some advice because this could spark a crazy dynamic. I want to defuse before. It's far money money as like money and family is so it's just so like suspect to like have to deal with sometimes but for real because it's even like when you borrow one hundred dollars from someone which for you one hundred dollars might be nothing but then it might be a lot for that person or vice versa. And it's just I feel like money brings without the worst necessarily the money. It's the connotation behind the money right like what decide on entitlement to with salt response but I know what I mean I I think the money is the biggest thing because it sounds like. You're like motivator. Dare you're you're nobody has a problem with you being in charge of of taking care of your because you're on the youngest and you're there and I'm trustworthy and I'm very loyal to my family and I think we have a very good healthy dynamic when it comes to trust and loyalty but so this reaction is so far fetched that I'm like going you ask people. Let's appreciate the years that they're we're here. Why are we even going over the do they? So do you feel like it's because you're because of your position in the family or is it because you're a woman or what. What do you think you're the baby and you're the only factors maybe this? Let's see maybe there's some you know you're the baby of the family your in your name and your name is rate. That's my little sister's name Rachel but I call her Rosal. Um You wrote coach the voice car. They're like Roach Lisa and she hates it. She's studying to be a doctor and she's like you guys stop. I'm literally an adult. Yeah she's like I am a MD.. Ph d I could save your life. She is the one that we text pictures all the time to like. Hey can you help what. What's wrong with this? She's like ill I did not yes. She's Cheeser Web. MD She is my wife and I think that's funny because she's also the baby and she also always gets thrown on the bus usually by everybody else but me. I'm like like I do it more as a bit but I think that being the baby like the youngest one people are always. They're always gonNA look at you. It doesn't matter again if you are a doctor or you're a comedian like it doesn't matter you're never gonNa be the older sibling. Who is responsible and not all the knowledge in the world book my the the Avenue Avenue for BA? Yeah I got. I got started on your instagram snapchat. I say this I think at the silver lining that you're dealing with. It's worse when it's like all of a sudden you have to deal with that in great time now to kind of you're going to have to see them for Thanksgiving and Christmas you can Hashtag in November November's coming out. They excuse getting a little more awkward with this situation. I got a question. WH- who did does your brother have an argument about or he's just upset about it. y'All he just hung up and he was like what he said He. I said well if you trust. There's so much to grateful about this. Oh so what's the age difference between. Yeah question ten years love grow grow grow ever acted this way before in. Wow this is a shock. This is shock and human. I are tight like I watch. SNL Today and probably in sketch comedy because my brother used to sit down downtown and watch SNL when I was like six seven years old and my parents were out there partying. He's like you could stay up and watch my favorite program with me. I didn't understand any any of the jokes. Really anybody like your Eddie Murphy. You know we're very. I'm like blown away with this plan right now to kind of I I was hoping to get some advice from you. Mother fuckers Diaz. I got an idea to send them to episode and so he can listen. Listen to it and kind of help to listen to subscribe Chicago. He's going to be upset at maybe not great episode but I guess that my sister and you gotta think schedule Let me ask you this. What is it that you want to do if there were no consequences at all? What is your immediate action? I wanted to call him and be sure everything was OK. Keep the peace be like. What's up listen? I know what was said but I think he misinterpreted some things and I paint a clear picture. Yeah but you know how that dynamic is with. The older brother or older sister will start off that way and just like as I said before it will end shit. The weather it's advisor suggestion or whatever but still I'm I'm the middle child of six siblings So like I we have these things called Kiani Johny meetings where we I know. It's not just what we call it. It has nothing to do with the crew on but it's a bit like within our family league literally the Adele selling my boyfriends. I don't know because I can't would because literally tonight we have a meeting and everybody's meeting at my sister's house and I'm the I'm elise so I'm skyping off. I'm like I'm like getting on. I'm getting older prisons. Because they're going to be like. Why are you washing the dishes like? Can you just say like not like going to like control too much. I don't want them to know what I'm doing. I'm multitasking but my point is like I I like they. They are very intense hardcore passionate meetings on depending on what it is and it's been about so many several things throughout well like my entire life when we've had this type of meeting but I think in the end like everybody kind of just let's everything out and it's like feels good to then just be like okay. Fine this is what you think Rachel. This is what you think frank. This is what you think. One dollars okay. Great now we need now. We can figure out that's Aleutian. Because I think like if you're just talking to one one brother and then the other brother talks to the other brother and then that brother calls you do it. It's like has a different gentlemen and the story changes and then later it's well Rachel said that she's opening a the guy with the money. You know what I mean. It's like all thing you know what I would say I would say. I think he had a reactionary situation cream. Yeah and so and if you guys are tied and you say that. And there's no precedent to this. I would say give him a second when he comes back and you guys talk and he still is doing that. Then you know you have a problem and you have to let them bellied so we don't have enough information. We we just know kind of like. Yeah well thank you so much to talk about it. You know. But this family dynamic and being very Latino it's scary sometimes all of a sudden this direction just totally changes in your way way way bring it back to the peace sign. Yeah we'll be doing with them manipulate the situation either. Because we're so me Monaghan and they're like oh you wanna you want everything to be so good that you're willing to go stuff that you shouldn't have I in terms of don't give up and you think is right. Here's so what else say. No the facts. You know the facts. He knows the facts facts bank. Not Opinions facts remind him of the facts and therefore you you have a solid ground to stand on you know what I mean like. I know emotions get in the way and like yeah. It wasn't in a reactionary thing. Ba- facts are facts. Yeah he like like also well. I don't know but I'm a firm believer. I'm a big believer on Lake Mead. I King Duckie. Who who is who is here putting in the time the LAKER fight them? That's like it's like it's like when people sometimes like old this person assigned against their will or like certain things and it's like no. This person did this because this is the one one person that was always coming to visit them at the home or at the hospital or at their house or whatever it is like there are people in the family that they they take care of this person. They wiped their their goal. You know what I mean when they go to the bathroom like there was something but it is and it truly is and it's like it's not fair for that one family member sometimes which this isn't with minor years or whatever but I've heard this from other people where I'm like. Yo Lake that one random like family member can newton doesn't even like you know as always talking shit like botching channel and then all of a sudden this person passes away for whatever reason then they want a piece of the Pie all but that was with her. When I was little I guess you were little and then you grew up and you said this one you know? And that's and that's where real the show as we all the time like a big family the big extended family people. Come out of the woodworks being like. Hey remember me don't like famous or whatever they don't WanNa follow you on instagram. All of a sudden I was so real. You get a friend request whistle facebook like wait a minute neutral. People are really really interested in that family reunion or whatever radio. They're like well. What's up what you're doing? That's why I'm saying like I think like shirt is because you're probably the baby but also like money money just flexible people Yo. I in which I do agree like it could have been like a like. I'm like a little fire in his asking coming after me for no me. The People Power walking shoes this conversation it was it was better back in the day when it was like I a powerful now I click whatever and then your brain just broke my finger panel. I'm like I miss those days of just hanging up phone. Jan Back to that was aw little click a loved it yeah blackberries blackberries fucked that up. Yeah blamed blackberry. I'm I'm actually curious about you guys. how big is your family's like how are you guys close to your families. I am four brothers and myself was five. And where do you fall on the second youngest one Boehner rates in the heights. Nice now yeah. Thanks to stay off off that exit I would visit my she had a place right there. Yeah we have a lot in common with some write ups ever. It's like after that it's not even heading right. There's an would wanna hear this conversation. The SNL Sketches Californian Roy. dikeman Sundays. You wouldn't have rare word. I have three siblings. I my parents had me and they were like you know what this is. Great eight nine years off and then and then ten years my brother and then Levy listen to a hybrid of an uncle brother. Yeah the age the difference for you. You're not gonNA be like sort of a hybrid uncle. Yeah they have their own click. And then it's like oh Mike's coming close with them or the aunt woke now it's like it's such an advantage now because when I was growing up I was like their babysitter. MIT's years I'm just babysitting the whole time but now it's kind of an early thirties and it's just like you know they're doing their thing and my sister just got married. She's in Pennsylvania that my brothers. There's in Connecticut and Westchester. Yeah but we. We're getting together because my parents retired and they moved to the yards two years ago. So now we're deciding where we're GONNA go for Thanksgiving giving me and my sister's house but we're cool Lovo. What are the dynamics that we had we were talking about text messaging? And there's a there's a text with my mom and then as a group text with my sister Serena arena but then we separate we just us three and the wow Galina said our man. Why did she say you never in writing the screen shots go green? Thanks so much time out now iphone literally got your gets your screen shots like put them in a separate album or something and I'm like Oh my God. Thank you for helping my lurk kness. I WanNa give you petty. We gone out to Tony Though. He just sent us speaking of threads that he joined in the live and he. Can I give a major shout out to Jamie. who wasn't even our what happened He's he's he asked jokes. He's he's out there. Go figure out who's who in the podcast Jamie's cargo around the dynamic. Ah Jamie James here. The guys thank you so much for this. This is something we haven't thought about this Rachel. Well how are you feeling like thirty pounds lighter one the year like you got a natural filter on your computer. I wouldn't say that all black because it's like a fun guy bacteria you meet up. Ah We are going to come back after we take a break. We're going to interview you guys even more also Ooh so excited. Hey we're back from AHRQ. Obviously obviously a he knows is. When are you know what I mean we love Dino Captain Planet over here your Airpower Coast West Coast? We just delve into like okay. Therapy can we. We did find out some things about you guys personally but we kind of want to get deeper review. Let's let our fans know about you guys. So I guess if everybody but he wants to like say their name again and also like say where they're from and where you were born and raised sure. Let's go with the men I because I do the ladies I went. uh-huh faircloth I I. My name is frank. Franklin nibs Go by Frank nibs I'm the fourth leg on Latinos. Allow what I usually do. The conspiracy theories I produce I do d- Mike pushed me and like videos and stuff like that little acting. You know they've so help me along you know doing the skits. Or what have you so I was born and raised in Heights Live my whole life in New York City. Okay I've only been away like maybe three weeks. You guys say to for the people listening hanging out watching your glasses. Game is strong. Yes okay then tortoiseshell free. I mean I'm upset. Cleared there really clean my glasses. Losses are still dirty in my house. Secret wrestling watches. I don't think we've ever seen before the real frank. Frank always knows the guy. So that's Kinda guy okay. Yeah so that's that's meaning that. Show basically Nice tortoiseshell. Yeah I am Michael known as one boggle and I was born in in Newark New Rochelle New York and then I lived half my life in Connecticut. Then I moved to Washington near Frank and I've done all types of comedy I've done parody parody the videos Sketch comedy found route. Twenty eight and now I'm currently With the Latinos Allah podcast. Starting comedy I think it was was China was Abu. I was visiting a friend of mine and he had taped HBO special. I think it was Africa which one was. But it Kinda inspired me me to see someone that was on stage on what time period early two thousand two thousand late two thousand and five dollars it probably. Yeah and then I ended up. Don't I'm so sorry. No No. No late nineties. It was after freak. Yeah Yeah and so then from there I was like there's still because this is one man in the whole theater and he was playing characters that I can relate to like the ankle and uncle and everyone so the donkey. Yeah and always ways of fields. Never Daddy Rachel. I'm Rachel Alaka. Government Strauss Moon Knees Wolf. Okay humic in from Brooklyn New York where Brooklyn Sheep Said Bay South yes southern like poor coney island over there in a big Russian population. Yeah this is big listening. I love the the only women do it on TV or like shelter like like this. I like it when the women do it. It's like it's like Like Bond Villain won a man does it but when a woman I'm like Oh my God my attracted to come for the only when young I my passion is sketch comedy been producing it for room. Twenty eight for a while. I also launched the hilarious show which is an all female variety show just Executed our fourth installment. And it's basically just you know gathering the best of standup basically any genre of comedy from any walk of life there is no restriction to like oh UCSB or the pit it's welcoming of all women who are taking taking this serious and who want to move the needle on the underrepresentation of women comedy. So how do you find your for your show. That's a great question because it's a I think a a multitude of approaches I go to as many shows like can you hustle. Okay announced coaching. Amelia took the right wing sound because I spoke and I forget dog with like everybody because I do drive is driving me. Crazy is driving me crazy girl. It saves my like in my God though that the dropbox Google this much is alive. I drive them all nuts about it but I'm like it's like the only thing can make eight. I like okay. That in this agenda a year wear bright to write everything down. Are we doing the Nike everything to show you my planner from Walmart. That's falling apart. Yeah yeah I literally have like on my thing. I think it says here. Where is the hold on? I want to find it so weird. Huge like this belongs number because I'm like girl if somebody loses it my last one gender said if you find this please please please please. I'll give you money or or whatever I needed it as my life and my phone number. He's smart yeah. I WANNA do that too much badly. The secret sauce is somewhere all no. I can't give that away yeah. So how did you guys get together. Get together in a minute right. Yeah beginning of two thousand seventeen right. Yeah yeah doesn't seventeen all retail nigh. So we we started a startup podcast network and I approached. Rachel and I was like Rachel. You know what let's Let's bring this back because we did an online radio show a few years back one nine to ten. Yeah so I post does Rachel and then I was like Frank Was Up. You WanNa be a part of this podcast using no doubt because he does all the fake news in a conspiracy. I was at a nice little wrinkle to where we and then we approached. Andrew Sandiego. Don's Outta it is a perfect person of reading. I am obsessed Jamie's prior here. This episode jealous. I I enjoy as part of it. But then he got hired by me and had to go to the west coast so we had Jamie and so since then. So he's a second he's hurt in action on like the one I don't know why Jamie me whatever feel better about this conversation we love you. Jamie Yeah Ah for real you know what I mean. They were eight. I can't think but I'll quarter all day. I can't sing either but we get one joke in the beginning getting a skirt. Do you guys remember the skirts. I know that everybody was also rocking them in New York. The Elliott skirt was in her video where it had the two slits. Oh picture of it. I'm GonNa find it now a week Jordan. It's amazing I had the patch down. Let me say why would you put an eye patch on your face. This was this was my best friend. Vicki yeah they would wear with a tube She wore in the are. Are you that somebody. Music is doing the sort of flamenco tango number. Yeah exactly so so. y'All know. I wanted Iraq that Tommy Hilfiger. I can't I can't pull that off. I'm going to stretch out that flag coming coming up the wear and so you guys you guys created you guys got together you found after Andrew left then you added Jamie and most like you guys have been doing the podcast game for how long now okay and and then you guys also just I love really you guys run on the show. NBC You're talking about. Of course we can conscience FICA. We don't have I'm for that okay. It was a great experience at NBC. The comedy troupe that Mike Helped Co found room twenty eight and who was a member of for for a very long time now is eight by thirty still made it board member. Can we got a board. That sounds fair board word. All right we have a board. I'm a little bored. Let's move on but then we got selected to be one of forty contestants on bring. The funny was an international search for the next this comedy star and it actually included standup and sketch which was great. Thank you NBC sketch. And it's great because a sketch team actually won the big prize right right now. The white people team rain yes CUCKOO CUCKOO Cuckoo to verify checking clarify. Ah Yes it was. Yeah call at like so this was. Was this like your first time doing sketch comedy on like that type of glove or have you guys also done sketch shows like in like you know. I don't know bigger bigger audiences like that. It was the first I mean it was. I think all of our first appearance on network network television show Grad. We were jacking off. Two dozen doesn't nine and we needed to talk about deleted. Yeah that was a Marconi. Oh One of my best means Sammy Emme Sosa and I will send me an eye black in the day. Because he was black man best caption copyright is the picture of your PDF for agency. Sent me so I have a pediatric. If you're just a says because he ain't blog no more. Aw Thank God. He pretends like it's not happening. A little lotion on it. or No the record keeping these people are trying to get lighter. And I'm over here like I went to Panama and I was like let me get Brown and I didn't get to see the sun barely standing in the Uber on the way through the window. Travelled to a few times and it doesn't matter where we are. She needs to town actually blocks all right so we have a panel here the conference okay. One Hour I'm out to the airport I see you get the window seat in the plane. The Cato when you do with the window it from something about Mary when I look I I love I love. I feel like I'm like so ugly when I'm not UH. Aw something else does also no. You don't look as bad as you think could lead the only a back doc robe after that. It was sitting at this table. I really feel like there's a mirror here like little dynamic so you guys are. You're like like our d'appel gangs but not like you know what I mean like the Energy Ganger thing. It's like in how I met your mother. A AH episode. No you know who's watching that you're able haven't finished. I'm literally three season and finish. It only matters another please alert. He's you know he's pretty the one Hook uh-huh okay. I got a cat this is. This is kind of left field question but I'm actually curious what are y'all's Zodiac signs thank. You see I think you you and I were I would. I'm big on big. Okay okay only or Dombi racing. You guys do that to my mother does she does he or she gets it done. She does yeah. Yeah Yeah. I'm a Leo. Do you know I have no idea. A rising star Hey I'm an Aquarius Mila Taza Tea Leaves Office streams down down that she reads it by the streams coming down to visit Momma's when I go to New York. What does your Mama do do? I don't know what it's my aunt did that especially when I got there was pregnant. You're here right it's going to be a spooner it. It's going to be a boy and then three months later it's a girl. I'd cancer. My rising sun Venus in Gemini and Virgo tendency. Yeah I know Oh. Carlos is an area near all areas except for me. I'm Atara download. So so you know bullheaded super cool. That's the big qualifying. Yeah exactly. Don't worry by default you call them. I don't now I have a question for you read. Who's been your favorite guests so far? Oh Oh damn you re Risa no. I'll how come it's OK. My number my number one favorite only because I have such she had heat. Look we have a crush on each other each mile cruise Cordova frigging awesome. I gotta I gotTa say my girl Eggo because she's the hook me up with. My boyfriend is really presents self serving reasons and then I also have to give a number three to. PF podcast poppy. Yeah but everybody else I love you. I still love you but you realize why I had to make these choices. My Dad my future mother child and also maybe future turn ex-husband instigate US son. You know that you're supposed siblings Wisconsin. I Love I love I love controversy show to piggyback off. That those three are not my favorite. They are good But my favorite one is Alaska's twinbrook the elite really intellectual conversation. Though I mean I like talking about real stuff and like getting to the hardest settling nuts. That's what I'm interested in talking about myself. My mood too is like another really great guests and like Gabrielle. reece really occurs silly. Yeah very easy And you guys haven't heard it because it's going to be in the premium at some point but we had a full chat with my mother in Gi killed it she'll kill of sap although not WanNa make sure everybody knows. I'm the second choice. Yeah Yeah Who is your favorite guests? That we've excellent excellent. I want You said curly curly is my in my top three He was on the show and the day after. I'm I drive Uber. I get my car on my block an heights and I go to a place MONICO Spanish food and when I looked to on my left I see currently there. I'm like what what are you doing up here. And he was doing a little better like your come on. Just do ski- for Me Real Quick and we did a skit outside and the whole nine. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah it was. It was really weird and that she just started going all over people started hitting me up. Yo You love. He's he's one of those people and we talk about it all the time when we both see each other when we like whenever and he was see him. It's just like it's so much love 'cause it's like he is such a big and I know the word influenced by. He is just such an influence or to the latter next community like in so many different ways that it's like yeah like like no wonder like you're so loved because you are always putting people up like it's never condition it's so like real and he also addresses fabulous so fast yeah jewelry. I don't even know a room for his jewelry. Gosh he's like ducks takes. His cloudy sets my favorite part of his dog. I just I'm obsessed with curtly favor ever guests Mike. I'm curious. Oh requests can. I said that no actually answering. Listen you sweat and right now go ahead of you know really backfire. I know I like she was. She was really empowering we. We actually had an audience for that and it was journalists up and coming journalists as she was amazing so I was also had like a really fun. Show your anniversary so you had Limon one and it was all live to. His Dad made online his dad. Louis Junior we also had. SNL Oz Rodriguez for one hundred episode episode WNYC Greenspace doped be there from here such good advice especially to those of US trying to make it here in this entertainment field women being parents you know I have two little boys. He's got two little boys. It was very enlightening and get really motivated me. That's my FAV- hell yeah. I love love. This guy's guess what we're GonNa do some Improv God. You're more than welcome to jump face. Thanks please do. Yeah Bali I'm interested that you that you re going to read my coffee is I'm trying to read my coffee Yeah I'm going to read them out of the shadows so sit down my child. Okay I see okay now how do you take your coffee Yeah anything else. Sugar sugar a gay. Is this just a cafe la no okay but actually your and wash in my God. He's just turn my welcome to starbucks. How can I say yes I need? You probably have met but on some ghost that haunts this starbucks. Oh Yeah you're gonNA see your floating in and out of this place trying trying to give everyone you know some sort of coffee reading this just so you know. This is a star regular starbucks did tons Enzi. Fancy thanks bonanza. You know that you don't work here. We can't pay you for your services but readings are in my pain Um It makes me think. Why is it ghost hunting starbucks specific by reading people's fortunes? Exactly exactly the answer to that is because she wants nice to and because I can. So how can I help you with today. I want to a Frappuccino. Okay for my fortune. You just had black sugar. I know but I'm trying my new things because I now I've just seen a ghost year. Life is changing. It's changing in front of me. Okay here's a Frappuccino rods. If you WANNA give reading go ahead. But don't use the genome. No wait a minute. She has to drink. It's part of her thing. The do I get through. I get you wanted your reading done right. This is not what she drank the whole thing. Why well I guess? That's your eating. Did you get anything out of that. She bergt okay. Well in that Burp your life story unfolded I feel like I have to be further drugs to understand and any further drugs right now. I'm a little bit address. What drugs you on Sir prescription allergies? Okay Sir what. I'm sorry. What does it mean you just drank my Frappuccino GonNa? It'd be a rough day badgered cookie. What listen listen you guys I just want to say thank you everybody for being here thank? Oh you know you're thinking thank you You know the I'll just want to say it's where it's where you know where we're at the birth of baby shower. Okay and the problem that I wanNA talk about. Why have you guys oughta huddle in? Is You know I'm always up deal Never Daddy O. Oh Yeah I WANNA I WANNA problem solve that I wanNA problem. Hey you have kit. And that's it is Lucien. Have you ever had. Thanks Gerald you know I have. Rei Send you pictures. Gerald Gerald entry at least not take this opportunity in my baby shower to try to proposition yourself to the single ladies at this party. I'll say Lita. Yes My name thank you is. You're always Bergamo balls. My baby shower and this is not your forum to be like I. I WANNA be a daddy daddy without being a daddy you know. Boy Get you on some tender or barrel Fisher something Oh you better get it it the sex discern the sex I get it I get penetrated. Yeah I don't know how to make I'm going to continue with this baby shower. Were you have to give me a present. What did you get me for my baby? Oh I got you a little something I it's Yes irap open it. Okay stop making sound with your mouth. Okay Oh okay. It's a sign that says please fuck and gave him. Yeah Yeah and you wear it around your neck or turn it on until late let me know is like my shoes sling bling bling bling bling. It's neon this is a gift gift for my kid your kidneys to know what's up buddy at this baby shower. Raise your hand if you want to have sex with an Rica it was I do I in real technically Geez a third cursing so it's gone vision videos explaining that I think I read somewhere that after the third causing extensive kiss for okay all right thank you to my baby shower floor you sir A piece of the inheritance. Okay thanks for coming over. Sorry it's a bit of a mess I know this apartment is small but you have yet to see the biggest part of my apartment. I sprayed a big scare now. All right I'm only showing you my jewelry room because I want you to get to know the real me. You know to be scared or alienated by the fact that I have so so much jewelry. Okay yeah no this is. This is the third day and I'm here for this. I just I'm so happy we've been so honest and upfront and from the beginning just feels like after this moment. I never seem to continue the dates that I have with people and now I'm a little wary. Please don't be today huge love when you talk to me in that in tongues yes yes all right here I go let me slide. Open this door. You're my door is fucked up mighty hold on okay now. Slide five the door okay. What Mr Bengals? Sorry about that. Sorry about that okay. Now for the piece of resistance is me sliding the door okay sir benefit all right and you go. Okay here I go. Oh Four Holy Shit mutated over. Why can't I can't keep my all? All sorts are here sunglasses. Yeah because the blink is too bry. Oh Wow wow bought all of this kind of I bought. I've taken Here's a piece of jewelry that's like where your body but it's it's not like it's not like close but it's jewelry. What is a life size figure of me in gold? Yeah Yeah I've had made commission there is is a man trapped inside of it Oh Wow I am suddenly started you while you're holding do you. You WanNa live forever. I Yeah I mean this. No space here. Yeah Yeah it's it's real nice lake also like it's hard learn to fit the contours of your body. I don't know I don't want anything inside of me at the moment you will. We'll be inside of something. Oh Yeah no you know what you look cold. I'm my gold. Give you a warm hug. I don't think gold gives it makes makes you warm listen. Hey you're like super high and I can see why like maybe that this is the one problem you have one problem brought us. Choose to ignore non. No I you know what I just don't feel comfortable. I think maybe you know we circle back figure out a fourth day maybe. Bi Show you my closet. I don't know you have a closet. Yeah I do have a glove and I see the next day here we we are in your apartment. Okay yeah that's a man in my the guys I have a thing about accents and like specifically Russian Accent Jar you know you have been dating a lot of women with Russian accent just the women though. 'cause you know the guys they just they're real creepy when talking stuck in the back then. That's not fair. That's really nice real. That's all fair. Because I brought my friend was sort of trying to set you guys up with each other. Her name is Bianca. Oh which is French for white. which is French for White? We'll get it. You're studying French okay. We get it Blah Blah anyway anyway. Bianca please come in the low. Oh Hey how are you whole while I'm done. That's it a melting you. You are the girl. Oh Wow thank you so much i. It's crazy I feel like you kind of look like me. I like to look like put a girl so Bianca Bianca along aw girl do what else do you put it the girl are you. Well I mean I could. The guy used that just so like me and will. We're GONNA leave now so I'm GonNa set you guys Up Okay get to know each other all right all right. Good luck. Okay thank you okay. Let's go do you like put a girl. Yeah Yeah I like pretty girls like a girls that they're pretty so like what else do you do on your spare time girl pretty you. You are ready. Do you. Like Pizza. Pizza's pretty girl to me. Yeah we to their wedding vows. They're saying their wedding bows and I understand. You guys wrote your own vows. This is such a special moment. Does the Russian lady would like to start. Your name is Bianca Geico. So don't be rude. I just came last minute. I wasn't a pastor. Dane on the Indians are on the Internet. Mike and God sorry go ahead the girl to me okay right so we cut to fifty years in the future Bianca. We're so sorry for the loss of your wife. If you would like to say something at the as Eulogy Eh. Now's the time to do so. 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Ep 168: Sitting on Wood

Bodega Boys

1:19:23 hr | 1 year ago

Ep 168: Sitting on Wood

"The day of clo- it's your boy jonathan daniel mashburn here for twelve news with the press conference with john carter aka jamaica yuga aka j hope aka joe camel came as she and he has an announcement that he wants to make in regards to the though when colin kaepernick. I'll do the fucking his deal with the n._f._l. Is on jay z. What do you say well. You know i did with the n._f._l. Seven sam because the only way that you could change things inside you know what i'm saying and it's like okay we protested but now we gotta take action. Which is why also also joining forces with another organization. You know what i'm saying. I came here to make me what's gonna. Station are working with i. I would like you know what i'm saying is teaming up with the n._y._p._d. What i'm saying black and blue states because i'm bridge snake. Give a fuck but you know what we're going to like shit on be. How can you come sing a little bit. I'm having a panic attack right now but we're going to join the communities together. You know what i'm saying because i sold the p._d. Eighteen to understand that you know like all like all lives matter shut up okay uh-huh memphis bleak trapping nets to trap employs podcasts. Let's give quick also available onside to the trap shoot. These things plays the rock face. You're listening to the audio art. The most dangerous podcast in the universe live from milk studios do a drop. We're not going to the ragged. Take your boy. How would they let me let me and you. It was so good food one hundred sixty eighth street in the bribery fraud and he got shot. I don't know that for a fact they were reunited. The rumors are demise not true cancel now. We're not murdered murdered wireless dial try and look at a turtle in the bottom of obey alley man did not get murdered over here at hershey park. Now old <music> breaking old rules down the water slide. You know her. 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Hour 2: Marvin Bagley III

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Hour 2: Marvin Bagley III

"What's going on everybody? Welcome back into I tag. Many believe Jaama rant will go number two overall to the Memphis grizzlies, but he won't be the only new blood with the Grizz who traded Mike Conley junior to the jazz. For Jae Crowder. Grayson Allen, Kyle Korver the twenty-third picking tonight's draft and a future first round pick. And look who's here, our friend, Brian Windhorst with us. Good to have you. Stephen is John Moran. A can't miss prospect. I don't think he's can't miss this plenty of God's in the NBA that you had expectations for, and they didn't pan out, usually I mean that happens to everybody we get all of that in terms of position. But usually if you got if you got a game and your six eleven seven feet tall, you're gonna be able to make a contribution. But when you're relatively under sized and not that he's miniature because I think he's like a legitimate six two six three but when you are relatively undecided, you you gotta have a game that you can elevate to the next level, and he can showcase. It'd be can be showcased on the next level. I don't want imagine that happening to him because he seems to have the ball handling skills to shot the mentality the aggression, and the cert of nece, etc. Etc. Where I'm very, very confident that he will be successful on the next level. But to say he's can't he's can't. He's can't miss. No, I don't. I don't view job rent that way. He's can't miss. This dude is John Moran is first of all, here's the. The main thing can you handle it can shoot it can you pass it? I mean, come on how much better do you want him to do you want them to shoot it much? Okay. Forget about his first year coming out after sophomore season. Right. You shoot. He shot fifty percent from the field, which is an improvement over his freshman season. He shot thirty six percent from three, which is an improvement over his freshman season, where he shot just under thirty one percent. He shot Eighty-one percent from the line. So it's not quite fifty forty ninety, but it's trending in that direction. And he was a sophomore in college trending in that direction. How about ten assists again, up from whatever it was five or six. How about two steals and just about a block of game. He's six foot three listed as at six foot three. How about his court vision? How about the fact that he's got explosive athletic ability, combined with patients like a great running back who could hit the whole, but we also wait for it to open and. Elevate the play of his teammates and seems to be calm under pressure. But he's not a great defender navy. He'll never be a really good defender. You know, wealth is not a really good defender. Steph curry Damian, Lillard Kyrie Irving, etc. Etc, etc. And that's the kind of player you have to start looking at when you talk about John Marin, I think his floor is Jamal Crawford, or something like that. If you're telling me, here's a prospect, and the floor is an explosive six men, who you squint and it looks like the primary scorer on a championship caliber team when you're squinting, but then there's certain flaws here and there it's not quite that I'm saying that's can't miss. He made scouts repeatedly say. Wow. And it wasn't for his dunks, which is what made fans go, while it was first playmaking for his ability to get triple team to make the play kind of the way teams were playing him was kind of the way teams. Played Steph curry at the end of his college years, I'm a little bit worried about the fact that he is going to be the point guard on a bad. Team. Memphis is going to be a bad team. He is going to get loaded down. He is going to make mistakes rookie point guards have have bad nights. So I think the important thing will be to keep the expectations of him making like being rookie of the year, relatively low company should have a lot likely even I don't care if he has a lot of turnovers. Steve Nash and these guys they all had a lot of turnovers early when they're aggressive and like a resourceful passers, right? So he can rack up a lot of assists and a whole bunch of turnovers, as a rookie in the NBA, no big deal white like who should care about that kind of stuff in terms of making mistakes as a rookie point guard. Let me respond to that Mexico Elleman because public elements here. So I won't be very, very nice. That's why. Been hearing for ten years max. Why did the next tree Crawford? That's what you've heard, and we I love Jamal Crawford, but of John Moran ends up being Jamal Crawford. I got news for you. That's a disappointment. When you did. Number two, overall pick forgive me for saying that more is expected of you than being another Jamal Crawford. That's number one. And I hope this respect for the way I said that, sir number two. You know, Brian windows max chooses to be death when are bringing this up. So I'm going to say this to you. There was number two overall, pick in the NBA draft a couple of years ago. His name happened to be Lonzo ball. Do you know what he shot in college? He shot fifty five percent from the field in college. He shot forty one point two percent from threes in college. Don't get me started on out, see since he went to the NBA. Now again, you're hearing a lot and all that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Comparing you bringing up collegiate numbers to make your case about what somebody's going to do on the NBA level. I'm not comparing Lonzo to John rent as a talent. I'm comparing you trying to us collegiate numbers to justify what the hell with the I'll take Lonzo suture out. If you ask me right now is on so can't miss, and I'll tell you. Yes. We're going to be lots going to be an all start. Okay. Fine. And you're you're entitled to your illusions talking about me we'll pop you're the one that's a bit delusional right now in my estimation. I'm not saying it's not going to happen. I've got to see it. So all my only point in bringing that up is this. Don't give me what somebody does on the collegiate level numbers. Now, if he wants to bring up analysis, MBA scouts and the wild factor in that regard, and you wanna do that go with it, just don't tell me look. It is. No. Hello. State and tell me that that's broth back. That's what he goes to the next level. Proof. It's just it's a piece of evidence. There is a correlation between numbers. Let's say what's wrong? What my retort to that by saying, excuse me, this levels to this, and the level of hey, look. Hey, look the level of competition. That's waiting for you. Mad at me say while this is on the screen, but level of competition matters. These are all guys for mid majors. He had better numbers than mccombe mccombe stuck. He has better numbers Damian. Lillard Damian Lillard all. Tell you all better. With him. Shook considerably better than. He's in college income. Shooting percentage is better than max match that, first of all, might not be suitable watcher tone. Study to come at you. We're Bob around on being right. Just be respectful and listen to my point all trying to respect my elders talking right now. That's right. That's why I'm talking right now. Thank you. I am yelled. I'm glad you know that the point is at the end of the day competition matters. John Moran, I believe in them. I think the kids don't be a star. But when we say, can't miss that means we could kick off feet up. This is what can't Mr. me kicking my feet up, and I have nothing to be concerned about with him. And I'm saying no Sii on two hundred eighty pounds. I don't even bring up Zion on skill. Let us doesn't matter. But the fact that is two hundred eighty pounds a man child, that's different job, Iran. Darius gaulan who was just here. Slight of frame got got an NBA body to build people knowing. That's the problem. Listen that matters that matters field goal percentage fifty percent for job. Forty five percent for Steph curry three point percentage. So John got him there by five points, three point percentage thirty nine percent for Steph curry thirty six percent for Mara Steph curry, because he's got better numbers than like very similar numbers, Lillard, and McCullum and more counting numbers, without Steph curry. He has those numbers against assist to turnover. Ratio is almost two to one for Jaama rant. It's one and a half to one for Steph curry, and he had ten assists to Steph curry five points. Six assist John Maranto wheel point guard of curry was. Shooter guard of curry was looking to pass your right hand. Nobody to pass right? So Steph average four more points than John rent. John Moran average four more assistant Steph curry, and he's a point shirt changing argument because you're acting like we're saying, John Moran is going to fail. I'm telling you, I believe in too. But when we say, can't miss that means I could kick my feet up and I have nothing to be worried about him that way said competition matters. Don't talk to be about college numbers. I'm giving you as examples Damian, Lillard and Steph Kurin they marry managers and they weren't can't maze. Got it. They were not can't miss his miss. No, but they recant this. They were didn't miss. So what I'm telling you right now is John rant knocked on this. This is an important pick for the grizzlies this first pick with their new front offers sacri climate around the show. They vision, Jerry, Jaren Jackson and John Moran running, pick and rolls like Stockton alone for fifteen years. But the reality is the guy is going to be taken third RJ. Barrett is a potentially explosive player. He could end up being the best player in the strategy may not or Jared is going three dead RJ. Barrett is going three. I'm ninety six point eight percent. Sure. I'm pretty sure south west. But I'm pretty sure myself put these are the Knicks. They might they might shift gears. Man, we don't know well into in talking to the Knicks. They swear Jay baron, they feel they are very excited about Arjun. We get to what you said about him. Maybe being the best put. I agree, RJ Barrett's and other guys become kind of underrated. I don't talk about can't miss prospects. He looks to me, Wendy like he has better pro. Oh skills than college skills. Well, I am not an expert on on evaluating college kids. It's not something I do. But when you average twenty points, a game in the ACC. That's, that's, especially on a team that has so much talent that to me was college wise. That means you're going to be able to score in the he's not scared to take. Shopping. My thing is that going against zone, folks, giving you this shot. You not being ambidextrous or remember when he came on. And he's got surprised you. I'm right here, and I was like this. I don't give a damn ICU use it. Okay. Okay. You right handed, ICU used the right here. By the way, if you right head why you want so much of the right hand. John John, I think, has when I looked at the mechanics of his shot different than Lonzo ball. I see a guy is going to shoot it the next level he can do so many other things. I don't see how he MRs Drucker always. Always get the last word at the dinner table to yes, of course. What's going on everybody? Welcome back to I take coming to you live above the chase riverdell at pure seventeen. Brian win horse still here with us. Good to have you, as always arguably the most touted prospects, one, LeBron James will hear his name called number one overall tonight in the two thousand nine hundred NBA draft at Barclays center in Brooklyn right across the river here. Steven, tell me this. We've just been praising him all show all year. What can Sern you most about zion's game recklessness? What I mean by that. Is that he goes one hundred miles an hour? It's useful exuberance enthusiasm, whatever. But a few of his dunks, if you watch the way he lands is a torn need. Wait now. That's the only thing that concerns about I wanna see him users. Right. More be a bit more ambient extras to some degree. Like I said, let's see, you got guys like Clyde Drexler. They went to the hall of fame. But I've always I, I not not to say, I'm not telling anybody anything, they didn't know, but I never ever ever thought he was in the same classes. Jordan, and I knew Jordan was going to eat him alive when they played one another because he was thanks. Right being mentioned in that next small one. I'll say this, who was a victim of that number Walter berry out of Saint John's saying. I mean he was sensational. But a lefty asked him the users, right? What happened in? Those are the kind of things I pay attention to. And so when I see you being a one armed bandit, I don't like that, not to say a Wendy, that Zairean can't rectify that because I know he will. But if you watch him he plays with such veracity, and he elevates, the forty five inch vertical leap. If you watch him, come down on some of those dunks, it's a knee injury waiting to happen. Remember the shoe loan, because he slipped on the floor, whatever against North Carolina, and busted the shoot open or whatever remember he was out for about five six games because of that alone. He's not invincible physically, particularly in the lower extremities, and how you call Klay Thompson. Just you got you got. Got Klay Thompson, that laid the ball up instead of dunking a right? They're trying to dunk the ball on that play Klay Thompson with the plate in the have been continued. He's gonna continue playing in the NBA finals. I'm saying you got a monitor stuff like that because when you're so strong and fast. See the thing about Barkley Barkley is great as Bach Charles Barkley was y'all. He didn't have this conduct speed. And so as a result, the ability to pace oneself to such a degree, and really the measure how you went to the rim. And what level of velocity you did it and veracity rather you did it matters. I get scared. When I see, I on all I concern myself with is, is he going to stay healthy? I say, I have more concerns in that. But I think that's a good one. Because like you look at a guy like Derrick rose, it's like he had a Mack truck engine in a tiny little frame. It was too much for the frame, the crazy thing about Zion is he has that kind of crazy engine in a huge frame, but it's almost like that doesn't make you feel better about him neck. Getting hurt. It almost makes you even more scared. He's just like a freak of nature, Maxine say this is not he's no saquon Barkley. You see them by trunks for leg. That's what we rave about. You don't kiss, I on bass. Claire, not a football play. He'll say that. So I get that. Here's the number. So I'll leave that it's legit concern, especially got hurt already to shoe busted, and he hurts himself because he just he's physically much for planet earth. But in terms of his game, it's a shot for me. But I don't I think his floor is all star. He's not going to be less than an all star because he wants to play the right way. He's a willing passer. He's a smart player. He's a hustle player and his athletic ability is to great hill, at least be an all star. But in terms of him being in a five star player MVP to me that's going to be how well does he shoot it? You know, he has enough wiggling his game to get through spaces. He has enough handles to do that given his size and leaping ability. The question for me is can he consistently hit an outside shot if he can game over game over? So I think very few rookies can physically compete in the NBA even LeBron round are. Bullied him around. Nobody is bullying this guy. So I think he comes with, with just with his size. You have a better chance. My concern is what position is he gonna play defensively. He's not quick enough. I don't think to stay with small forwards at least a lot of them and they're gonna wanna play him at center. I think, and if you look right now, the pelicans are out there, looking for a stretch for me say are they're going to put Brandon Ingram at three and they're going to put this new stretch form and they've been talking to the timber wolves trying to get Dario search in these trade talks before age mirror teaches a free agent. And if they make a trait with the Atlanta Hawks and clear out, salary cap space mirror Tich could be their thing. Marcus Morris marquee Morris all those guys, they're looking for stretch fours, which leads me to believe that they sort of see him as may Moore's twins can play. They get underestimated. And under appreciated, by the way, they complex for sure. My concern is defensively if they really wanna play him at center now, Mike Schmitz? Who's the guy who I respect his opinion? He's compares him to Draymond green on defense. Draymond green is a one in a million a player because of his intelligent apologize. I lost you who's compared to dre mongering defensively in pairs. Because they're the same similar height Ray and their Atlanticism. I mean we see that highlight, where he goes flying from the layout, three point nine blocks the shot. Right. That's just him and Draymond he could block shots. That's right wing. You see that you say, oh my God. He can play in the paint and the primer at the same time I understand why they do that. I just don't know if as a center, he can do it in the NBA ready for this. First of all, I'm not sure about Brandon Ingram in that blood clot. I'm not sure about I'm I'm with you the right. That's a question, Mark. Are you ready for this? I don't have a problem with Zion and Julius. Randle being on the court at the same time because Julius Randle has no business on the perimeter. He's a one armed bandit himself. He's an I know they probably move him. I get all of that. But what I'm saying he's a one on Bennet, but he's incredibly physical and he gives I'm still mad the Lakers. Let him go. And I told Magid that now Zion, even though he's physical a he can do damage him. His damage in the open court, he could do damage in the post Xijiang kiss step out on a perimeter and drive to the basket. I'm not saying that's idea what he can do what he can do it. And if he can do that. The combination of those two dudes physically allows you to go out there and get a toll a guy that's relatively soft as you would say that you could put on a lion them just to be Zabel extra by the west everyone compares John rent to Russell Westbrook. When to me he's really the Angelo Russell with more athletic ability. Right. Similarly, Zion Williamson, the first guy that came to mind when I first saw him was a souped up Blake Griffin, which is a great thing. But actually, he's also Julius Randle with athletic ability with much more like John Mirant is to, he's the Angelo Russell, once I on Williamson is to Julius Lakers, are not a litmus test. Please don't get me wrong on hold me accountable for that. But I'm just saying that I'm just bringing it up because I was at this game. I'm in LA, and New Orleans calms. And it's the whole Anthony Davis stuff that went awry, and he arrives in LA, Julius Randle, bullied, Bill. The lakers. I'm trying to remember if you were there with me, just bully he had a medicines to send the Lakers. But I'm just saying he just moved. Everybody out with hit, you get a little more shooting with nine saying I'm just saying because you have those bodies right now and you're looking for an extra big. That's why I'm saying it for now. All I'm saying is do not underestimate what you can give Julius Randle, do not underestimate the possibility of Judas rental being left on the team coming off the bench and making some noise for you, in that regard because when you got, somebody like Ziona bullying you around and then you've got somebody like him believe you're on it. Tends to soften everybody. Okay, fine. But now everyone else must shoot because Lonzo ball and Brandon Ingram. Don't shoot Zion Williamson, you think maybe he might be able to shoot. Okay for his brand and actually tried to shoot a lot more. Now you bring it in Julius. Shots van was he's, he's weak defensively. Yes. So you'd be asking a lot lines. So like you couldn't have miratec out there, right as you'd be you'd be in trouble. But Julius Randle is going to be a fascinating case on the page and Marcus, he is somebody's going to be interesting. Kids are going to be a pretty good situation. There. Right after working out Darius garland, who just joined us nice kid. Our Adrian will address is reporting the Knicks are locked into taking RJ Barrett with the third pick two-night max Arthur actually being underrated percent. Underrated RJ Barrett's going to be an excellent pro game is better for the pros in college. And let's not forget he turned nine teen not even a week ago nineteen like or expectation. Yes. Was he he was. Agree with somewhere. It was okay. It was Oakland. We expect so much from these kids nowadays, like Magic Johnson was nineteen as a rookie. And by the time he turned twenty that year he jumped at center at one, the title dropped forty two points. You know what I mean? Magic Johnson's if existed throughout basketball history, one that's very unusual. It's not going to happen. Maybe ever again. Otherwise, not eighteen nineteen twenty year old kids are babies Stephen in the old days Twenty-one year graduating college, you know, good as a rookie, you're twenty two by the time you're twenty three twenty four, you're a real player this dude, just turned nineteen years old, and as a rookie in college on the same team with Zahn Cam and all these guys dropped almost twenty three points a game if you round up it's twenty three eight and four a game. Now he didn't shoot it great. But we've seen look John rant didn't shoot great. He shot just about thirty one percent is rookie hits shot. Thirty six percent of the sophomore. This dude had one season college shot thirty one percent, and besides all the numbers and the fact that he's six foot seven he can play the tour or three Stephen. He's got or j Barrett is not scared even with Duke screwing up and maybe people thinking he took too many shots at took too many of the big shots. That's because he's not scared to take the big shot. He and it's not even like he's taking low percentage shots. All take. No. He gets a good shot. He's gonna take it or J Barry is made for the NBA for any market. He is going to be an excellent NBA player. And he is underrated right now. I don't believe he's underrated. I don't I really don't believe he's underrated. He's rejected to go. Number three overall. I don't consider that the an underrated. I mean, the fact that the Mattis people look at him and they say, hey, you know, he's got potential. We'd like to see him be a bit more amber Dextrous used that right hand a little bit more. I've, I've, I've been fixated on that I can give a damn. He told me I got news for you it while you ain't us. You're right aide. That's bottom line. And you were working on your right in religiously in off season practicing. What the hell would you need to practice? If you're right handed okay, because you don't use it. That's what I'd like to see him use it. I'll look at that thirty percent shooting from three point range. I'm not overly impressed net. I'm looking at the sixty six percents from the free throw line. I'm not overly impressed with that. I also have to take this into account you know, he smoothed he can ball. I am not saying he can. Not ball. Okay. And he and he's represented by one of my favorite people in the world and Bill Duffy. But I'm here to tell you something when I look at him. And I look at the fast pace of the NBA game. Do you have the potential sure? But I'm looking at how you plan. I'm judging. How you plan? I'm saying excuse me. I'd probably take you number three overall as well. But in the same time, it's not going to be with some trepidation devoid of some trepidation. When I look at a guy likes Jalen rose, for example, Jalen rose came out of Michigan smooth lefty, silky, smooth January player. He played on Ovalles. We don't get along NBA. Good. He's that's right. He works here, by the way, I would get I think they would get along. We get along. But here's the deal you look at him perform the game has changed, and that's silky smooth. Calm cooled control approach to things. I don't know how effective that's going to be on this level. It might be it might be. But again, I have to see do I believe that RJ Barrett is. Going to be a good player. Yes. But we talk in top three when I think about a top three pit I think along the lines of D Wade, who was five Chris Bosh, who was number four overall, stuff like that. And I'm looking for you. And I'm wondering what am I going to get from you? I look at RJ Barrett. I know he can ball. But I'm also looking at Darius garland or de'andre hunter and these boys guys that you will be passing up on to take our J Barrett. And that is where it gives me call it. Poor thing. I would take the chance he's worth it. But is he being underrated? No, I don't believe if you listen, the average number five pick is not D Wade, the average number four pick is not Chris Bosh. Those are exceptional values even those picks. If RJ Barrett makes in his if he plays ten twelve years mix a couple of all star teams. That's plenty of value. You did you just say a couple o- hail. No, that's not good enough. Now's not pick NASA the number three overall pick hail. No research, research average number of north northwest by the number of point. I'm not questioning I'm saying for me. Unacceptable. I'm not satisfied with a couple of all tests. Can I do? The number three overall. You can't conjure a certain draft class. Sometimes there aren't more than three players in a draft class that are gonna you all what he he's a third overall pick. Right. Three that's pretty right. However, gone, John and him. But that doesn't mean he delay doesn't mean that the third best guy has bigs more than two all star will use. So you cool, you cool if I J Barry averages seventeen eighteen game and he makes a couple of all star appearances you satisfied with pet. He's, he's a starter for ten years and he'll playoff players. That's, that's plenty of fun. That's plenty of. Fantasize after this car. Kyrie Irving news. Okay. So when Rosen fantas. Good. Oh my God, I don't know. I think you would like him can you guys just pull it together? You guys I say enough. The Knicks rose fantasizing about a basketball team here with Dennis Smith. Millions is if you're talking about the Knicks, Kevin RJ Barrett. And then let's just say they got kyri and Kevin Durant, how good are the Knicks next season. Well, I know he's not going to be there for a year. Not gonna play. In fact, this is how good are the Knicks next year? There are very interesting team with kind of misfit parts because kyri Irving, as you saw sometimes has a deleterious effect on young players because he is so skillful and talented, he expects everyone to be able to do a lot of the stuff that he does which they can't. And it's not necessarily a reflection of a lack of effort if they can't do it as I've said he may be the most technically skilled player and for right? Like he's in that conversation. And so that's a little bit misfit. You have young pieces, who you hope we'll be sending pieces. R J, Barry, who we just discussed Kevin Knox who you brought up. Dennis Smith junior who can do some nice things with a guy who's already a complete package. And with another guy who's not gonna play that doesn't say to me, a good team. It's an interesting mix not a playoff about the following year. Steven one. Katie comes back, asking asking, if they got K, D And Kyrie would this with the current. Players that they have adding r j Barrett. What kind of team are they owed a championship contender, but it ain't because RJ Barrett? No, no, no, is because it came Cari. Yeah. And there would be the reason why. Don't worry about this. Not forget, Kevin Knox. Forget Dennis Smith junior. Let's not forget, you know, Mitchell, Roberson, and these boys, listen, the New York Knicks have serviceable to good players. If you have guys that are stars and can carry the franchise. The problem is when you're asking these guys to carry the franchise, that's above. They're ready for that tweet wives being rude UNC guard. Kobe white perhaps the fastest rising prospect on the board had a private workout with the Knicks at the team's facility today. Leave sources tell ESPN Knicks have been locked and RJ Barrett. Number three, but some in white after Darius garland workout yesterday, obviously are wait Adrian Muenchner Out-skied just tweeting this thoughts on this max Kellerman. I've taught Koby white would be the Lakers, pick before Stephen a reported because you actually had information when I survey, the landscape I thought white is one of those guys that checks a lot of boxes and. I was surprised more wasn't being said about. And I'm unsurprised now that more is being said about Kobe. Kobe white is a really really good player who I believe is worthy of a top ten pick probably a little bit higher. I have questions about his ball handling. Skills dribbles the ball too high. I think at times he's been turnover prone. I watched him play a lot last year. I like him a lot. But would I take him above RJ? I would not know but I might have been fourth but, but you know what? Yeah might because as much as I like Darius gaulan, and as much as I hear people raving about him, the fact that he only played in five games. That's why I kept asking them about that durability question. Not meet asked legit Koby white is tougher. He's more durable to like, here's A B white. You know, say you stay like you question his ball handling as a one. But as a two he's got great. Handles bet you know he's not a shooter. He's a score, but he can't shoot him with. I like about him. Okay. Koby white is a combo back court player. He kind of fits in any back court. He fits next to any player. I was surprised that more wasn't being said about him. I think maybe you look at him and some people wonder what's his upside is like amazing upside. But to me, he's, he's whether or not he's pro ready. He has the game that will translate well and be complimentary next to a lot of different guys. Whether it's the one or the two that is this not sold on very well to me, that's exactly what it means. It's not to say they're not going to take him. But it means that people are in the ball park that they're measurable. You know how you equate this skill set to his it's in the same boat or again. Kobe white is hit big shots. He's made big top points. He dropped thirty four against seven qs, dropped another twenty eight against Clemson Ostro both of those games. I saw him in a win over Duke where he dropped twenty one points. Listen, he's got skilled. There's no question. An, an heart, and he's a bigger body, but he just seems to be a little bit more Radic and that's something that you can zone in on and correct. Don't get me. Wrong, doesn't give you the sense like the balls on a string like some of the other guys he's not he's not x five. He doesn't appear as polished. But again, got the same height as about RJ Barrett. You can ball averaged about sixteen game had some big as for North Carolina is a couple of games now. I would like to have seen him perform better. But in the end I would I be surprised if the New York Knicks took him but I wouldn't be appalled by the pick because he can play. Yeah. I would be very subject to me. Let's what I mean about RJ Barrett. Maybe this argues against the idea that he's underrated. Everyone has the same three and the same three in order, and then you have conversation after that tells you something like the wisdom of crowds. Everyone seen all these players and there. And then it's like, okay zion's going one. Jaaz going to Barrett's going three then let's have a conversation at the last four games. He played in the NC double A tournament. He shot twenty eight percent or worse, I'm paying attention to that. What do you do when it matters? I'm paying attention. If the next don't land, anybody like a Kevin Durant. Or Cairo providing say my plan, right? Does it work out and Kevin doesn't decide to come which he should to the mecca right here and play in Brooklyn Barclays? No should go. Kevin durant. He knows. I'll let me fine if he went to the nets, but the number one choice would obviously, the garden of the mecca the iconic franchises that you've rooted for a child as a child, because stay focused, we used to wait online member this Steven, too. Wait online all night. You have to stay on a block blockbuster, like literally wind up for playoff, tickets me, my brother and me sitting up in the nose bleeds. You know why to watch Charles Oakley dive on the hardwood for loose balls. The team got take not on gender Dolan. I know kick Charles out of Madison Square Garden people like Kevin Durant has to be watching stuff like that stay focused. So the Knicks build around RJ Barrett. Yes, the, the first of all, if they don't get Cade, if you if you can get Kadian kyri all bets are all right. If not, yes, or j Barrett, Kevin Knox. That's a nice nucleus to start building. You know what it'd be great? Who'd be great with that a guy like I dunno. Kristaps porzingis. Boy, that would be a nice. In the past those days are over, but he's traded him for a bag of shells. I mean like you know, he was only a seven foot three Hewlett horn shoot from the outside defend fingers on beat in Monterey rookie deal whose fault. Is that that ain't just Dolan? That's Kristaps Fulton and I'm saying that's not just Dolan. It's all of them it's him as mills is porzingas all of them. I'm not letting anybody off the hook with that. If, if I have Kristaps Porzingis and I owned a team trust he would not want out at by the end of his rookie deal. I promise you, you had Kristaps Porzingis on your team, would he be asking out after which is why I'm not letting anybody off the hook. But I will tell you when you walk into the Knicks office, and you say to them that you're going to opt in, and then you'll leave as a free agent. And by the way, you spend the next year advertising that you're going to leave, so no free agent will want to come work here. You have no choice under those circumstances. But to get rid of them. Oh, yeah. And I don't blame the current regime for the trade. I blamed Dolan. Squarely on Dolan. He's the constant and he's the guy who obviously poisoned, the well for Kristaps Porzingis NATs guys, when they're, they're in the final, Steven A, and I'll be courts. You'll be back in the day. Knows blades again. Finals, you know, finals NBA finals two years from now the Knicks. It's draft a on that note. We welcome in last year's number two overall pick recent selection to the all NBA rookie team. Huge congrats on that in current Sacramento. King Marvin Bagley third Marvin. Thank you so much for being with us. I want to ask you this, since it's a draft day we have a bunch of rookie coming through, what was your big welcome to the NBA moment that you felt like you had on or off the court. I think for me. My big is welcome to the NBA moment. Is it was off the court for the most part, and that was kind Justin. So the traveling being in different cities and in different nights. And you know, just always on the go, you know, college he might have a game. Wednesday. You got a couple of days. You might play Saturday again. Because you, you get a couple of days in between and to get your body bag. Right. But I think for me the, the biggest adjusting was traveling and just kind of taking care of my body to, to make sure I'm ready to play without a child. That was the biggest and just me the naps down when you're in the NBA, that's for sure. Yeah not too. Bad, though. Rookie nineteen years old fifteen points in about eight boards, a game with a block Marvin. How do you think Diane Williamson's game will translate to the NBA? You know, I'll watch ion. Now we were in the same class. Nah. I've seen him play. And I like how he always going. He has a motor. He's always playing non stop. No, you had that energy wants to win. And you can tell by just watching them I got a chance to go down to campus and play open run before the season last year. And I kind of saw everything there that he did in the season. And now I'm happy for him. Now, I think he his game could translate know just by you can play hard. And, you know, just the his would win. I think that, that translates itself into the NBA, obviously, by the way, welcome to the show. Man, thank you for, you know, when we when we talk about coach K, obviously, everybody knows the greatness of coach K two brilliance of coach K, but put it in perspective for us. What it's like to be an athlete at Duke coming into the NBA as a projected hot pick. What does do what does play for coach K? Due to prepare you guys for this level. Offer me. You know, I'll try to to learn from coach every every day. No, he, he didn't hate me, my notice, but I'll just watch how he handled certain things coming in to know the meetings before we before we played team meetings the night before watching how he prepared for games. And, you know, I think that just watching them do that kind of helped me prepare for, for what I'm doing on NBA and, and no helped me prepare for gangs, and film, and stuff like that just as watching him. Nah, I definitely learned a lot and what does but Marvin, does he talk to you all about what life is going to be like on the next level. And if so what exactly does he say to somebody like you, somebody like Zion on object? What are the kind of things? He says, you know, he's is always positive. No. He's positive. He's going to tell you the truth. He's not gone hold anything back. And that's kind of what I respected about coaches. I can go to coach and ask them about anything on and off the floor. And he'll just tell me, you know about, you know, the he'll tell me different stories about what he went through and. I just started like I said, just take it all in, man. And you know, I I was blessed to be able to play for a guy like that, that I could trust with know basketball in often court things. So it was great plan for coach. I love coach K. I love his family. Now I love do as a whole in Phnom just happy. I got a chance to experience Plante basketball and being a student there Marvin. Let me switch gears for a second and ask you something about you. If you don't mind couple years ago when you're still in college you just recruited. Just declared. I think Roy Jones who was a colleague of mine at HBO, boxing, play me, a clip of you free styling in the hallway, and it is, in my opinion, since then, that the best stem, see in the NBA is either you or Damian, Lillard, but who is the best MC in the NBA me me, man. I love music. I love music. So I'm gonna go myself. So would you ever battle Damian Lillard? Yeah. For danny. So Damian Lillard would accept that battle. Would you do it here on? I take I take whatever, whatever man, I'm whatever. I'll make music. It's a love so we can we can see. Is there any of the new of this of this class right now about to be drafted that has any MC skills, not that I know of, I'm not sure I'm not sure you know, nobody really knew about me making music until you know around this time last year. So I'm pretty I'm not I'm not sure even he can run. It's like official. Well, first of all, I know this and Secondly and more importantly, we don't know if Damian will wanna battle him. So that's the best spot. Dame in why. Right. I don't know if I know let me get to basketball Marvin. Let let me get back to when you watch Zion and you watch RJ, which I'm sure you have if you had to give them any advice on what to work on as far as their game for the next level you've been here year. Now you played sixty two games last year outdoor travel gonna make the playoffs and did y'all faded late. But that's the story for another day would advice. What advice would you give those two in terms of the game in order to work on to be better prepared for this upcoming season their rookie year? I think being able to have a. I would just tell them to have an all around game me being out there this year and experiencing competition. And and you know, guys way older than than our was way stronger than I was I'm had to find different ways to you know stay in a game and and, and make a positive impact on my team. So what I would just tell them is. You know, find something that they they're good at perfect that, and then no work on everything else, you're going to get better throughout the year. So I'll just say, you know, don't get too hard. Don't get too low. Stay the course of the season. It's a long season anything can happen. And you know, I'll just that's kind of the mindset I took into the season. And I'll just tell them not eight the only one out of Duke. This going in the first rapper check to the top ten Cam reticence. Well, now here's my problem, and I need your help small. Kim, reddish, I love his built. He's got six eight looks like he's got a nice stroke athletic body can play on this level still watts but the numbers weren't there. And I think to some degree, do your gresh. It wasn't there. So I was hard on them. In terms of damn, I expected more cameras. He comes on this show the other day and confesses little bit too much pizza. Little bit of the bad foods that had a lot to do with his condition. It is. I'm going to assume that that's something he will rectify. Do you believe that can't read it will rectify that and how good of a play do you think he's going to be on the next level? No to be honest. I think Cam, it was one of the best players in his and his year class, he can do he can do it all. And I got a chance to play against them, you and multiple times. So watch him and how he how he can shoot the ball. He can push the ball his game. Is this is this move? I think you know, he has a chance to be. No one of the best players that comes out of this draft. And you know I really like his game a lot. I like his game a lot. You know I'll talk to him, you know every now and then the check on them in and I really like you know how he plays the game. Do you like what he has inside, though from what you can tell because to me that when Stephen A talks about that, what, what he's alluding to, or at least what I infer from it. Is that some guys like for example, RJ j Barrett? You have no whatever questions you have about him. It's not that he doesn't have that thing inside where he's trying to really excel, no matter where he is. Does can have that. I think so. I think everybody's different, you know, you just have to find that confidence. I think that's a big part. Now I'm being an NBA. Is that confidence low has to be there every single night if you don't have that, and, you know, those guys out there, they can sense it they, you know, they can fill it and they'll just attack you attack you attack. You come out you all night, if they can see that you don't have that confidence if you're not prepared if you're not ready, you know, they can feel that. So I just think it's about finding no that confidence that, you know, you belong that, you know, you can play you know that you're supposed to be here. You know you the best player on the court, every time you step out there having that mentality. I think that, that that'll help, you know, help them go. Go to the next level and not only him but for all players Marvin. Thank you for joining us. Congrats on all NBA rookie team. And keep racking lurking life. I like it. We'll talk to you soon. Thank you got. Rockets GM, Daryl Laurie wants to make some moose improve the rockets roster. And according to the Houston, chronicle. The rockets are interested in adding Jimmy Butler as a free agent Butler is expected to opt out of his contract with the seventy Sixers this on the heels of reports of discord between Chris Paul and James harden. We'll cave everybody, Mr. guys real short here. Yeah. I'm good. I'm good. It's just so the see you guys again, just stands back together. It's a cute. He even dressed like me, I was like he was so happy to send me he'd call me morning. He said, what are you wearing today? Split-screen put Steve nine will on the same. Let's say what are you? He said, what are you wearing say Stephen navy sue, with, like a maroon tie, you will say here we go. This is rain can't relate. Well, first of all, nobody in America believes I'd call you let alone talk about that. Don't let me put my color. Stop that go ahead and pull. Go ahead. Butlers how exist with CPI three in Hardin. No. Absolutely not the stupidest thing in the world of Daryl Morey could do. It has nothing to do with their talent. It has everything to do with them, and Taliban with James harden, and playing them ident- Tony system, what you would have is a situation. Whereas James, Dr James harder would be ball dominant CPA three himself doesn't necessarily want to deal with, with that he thinks the ball should be a bit. More distributed, not necessarily evenly because Chris Paul Cain. The clear to from the clippers to Houston to be off the ball to some degree because he had the ball on through him all the time when he was with the clippers a he didn't want to do that anymore. But the bottom line is, is that he didn't expect it to be total one eighty reversal to the point where you're sitting around and play the role of spectator with James Harlan. So that's problematic in and of itself. And then let us remind ourselves about what Jimmy Butler's initial problem was when he arrived in Philadelphia Brett Brown took some time to configure him into the offense. And Jimmy Butler is like I wake up at five thirty Jimmy Butler, and in the locker room talking like wake up five thirty every morning to workout, bro. Ready to go? I do that to stand arouse some damn corner. What the hell is that about? And then ultimately Brett Brown was like I'm working this. I'm working in and that's Brett Brown about this as well. And he was working, Jimmy Butler to the point where Jimmy Butler would take over in the fourth quarter of gangs, and Jane, and Ben Simmons, because he couldn't remember the shots and maximum will be put on the baseline. We put backs things of that nature. What I'm saying is, Jimmy Butler, and C P threes mentality. And temperament with James harden, as a teammate and day at Tony as a coach. You talk about a walking disaster. It will be absolutely the worst possible thing that the Houston Rockets could do pairing those three unnecessary, if those we come together Dan, Tony half to go. Didn't you report was this yesterday that it's really Butler or C P, three Butler is a to move CPA threes. That's what they should be doing. That's what they should be doing if we're talking about not the three of them the harden and Jimmy Butler, right? I like it better than harden and see, I fi- that reason I like it better is first of all Butler went into a kind of dysfunctional situation. Not dysfunctional. But a situation with some it was fraying at the edges, a bit in terms of the relationships in the locker room stuff. And the way they they they've performed on the court in Philadelphia. It wasn't perfect. And you threw them into that mix and he made them much better. They came within a hair of beating the eventual champs giving them a better series than the K dealers. Warriors did in fact and a lot of that was Jimmy Butler. I love the idea of Butler with, with harden, first of all, when you have James harden, you should pair them with the back court mate, who could defend and while C P three canned defend. He's getting a little long in the tooth. Any small Butler is not small, and he can really defend and late in games where it's really not James harden time in the playoffs. Jimmy Butler just showed the world what he can do late in games in the playoffs. I actually think if you can swap out, CPI three for Jimmy Butler, the rockets just got better. They cannot coexist. I'm doubtful the Jimmy Butler, and James harden. Can coexist as a pair, I am certain to see three Jimmy Butler, and James harden cannot. Coexist. We're not just dressing alike. We're thinking alike, and I would go one step further. First of all, they cannot co exist, because I cannot make sense of any way contractually you can get all three of these guys on the same squad. They are over the cap. They are strapped. How are you gonna Ford Jimmy Butler, that's a pipe dream before? Chris paul. So then you move onto four Chris Paul. And by the way, then we get into the issues Stephen started to line out, which is first of all basketball reasons. James Harden's usage rate is an issue. All right. It's an issue for everyone except for James harden. And you cannot assume that wouldn't be a problem for Jimmy Butler as well. You're absolutely right about why it worked in Philadelphia because he had a role in a role that he could appreciate as the closer. There were other guys couldn't who's that going to be Jimmy Butler the clothes. When James harden in the playoffs in particular, can't close. We go to Houston. Explained that to James that's not going to happen. Listen, listen. Jimmy Butler was bringing the ball up the floor. He was playing a little Emmanuelli. Right. Hold on a second. You're making sense. It's not going to happen. What's not gonna? They won't do it. That's the problem within Tony. That's not going to win now. But here's what you're saying. It's not going to have the bottom line. You think it's not going to happen up to explain it to heart, and blah, blah, blah. Then the moment of truth comes in the playoffs in a tight game late in the game and wasn't breeze wants it and Wasser teeter and Dan, Tony, and more re- with the contract situation exists because you had a problem with Dan, Tony's inability or unwillingness to make those adjustments during a game. Jane. Close game playoffs. I think James harden, once you think he wants. I think that's what I noticed, I noticed he jumps under Draymond green legs. And looks at the ref. He's looking for a bailout, but was not looking for a bailout. He's looking to hit that because it's always worked for James harden. That's why he's doing it. He is conditioned that believes in the plane. Gift that call conditioned always work. I'm not saying you're doing this, but I believe that too many people look at basketball as though it's NBA two K, let me put together the best individual talent pieces. I can't and I will have a team and negates the idea that human beings are involved with, hold on. I just said, I do not say you're doing this. These are people with personalities. So you saying, Jimmy Butler, and James harden are gonna work it out. Jimmy James harden. Chris Paul didn't work it out. This is why by the way, we should give Kevin Durant so much credit credit, dren did something superstars do not do this, right. Here is not something that can call. There's this should be Butler is if he's smart. He won't wanna go home to Houston way was born and raised that man will wanna go stay in Philly. Stay fairly. They love him there. He should spare. Different plan saying it's ideal and saying it can work. I wasn't sure Jimmy Butler would work in Philly, but it worked out just about as well as it possibly could have. I don't let the question is not is it ideal. The question is it an improvement on harden? Chris Paul, which, by the way came within a few shots, getting past the warriors two years ago for one second because I want to say a huge, thank you to our dear friend longtime producer here on I take Kevin reader. He's been with this show long before any of us when it was cold pizza transitioning with skip to making it. I take the debate show that we're now all part of an obviously enjoy his been instrumental in the show, success and rarely going to miss him being on the team. He's taken another opportunity. So wishing him. Here and beyond camera with us. I know I tried. They knows what good TV is when Kevin is one of the people that made this show. Absolutely. Without question without question. Obviously, I've been a few years without Kevin rita's a part of the midst, we wouldn't be where we are today. No question. And I also want to congratulate Chennai go McKay and her sister. They're going to be on the sequel of Space Jam. Oh, about that are on Chennai. She's on the show quite a bit. There's a huge student. Should be added. Tonight. Rich. Talk about it to coach right here on I take well, thanks for hanging.

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NBA Over/Unders: The East! With Bill Simmons and Joe House | The Ryen Russillo Podcast

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NBA Over/Unders: The East! With Bill Simmons and Joe House | The Ryen Russillo Podcast

"This is part two of originated on Pilsen his podcast are over under for the Eastern Conference in the NBA season gets underway just a couple of days house bill it's and plus eight hundred not to make the playoffs there's a lot of a lot of happy vibes coming from the Celtics team everybody loves Kemba Walker I think he's in the running for the ballboys he's learning everybody's name in the front office and the you know the assistance and the interns and he's just one of those guys and from where and then the second thing there's a piece on ESPN DOT com to fire out of the brand said the Chinese government was not misinformed Is that Adam silver admitted that the Chinese government told him to fire Daryl Maury wanted him to and he said no wow if you're fumbling with insurance state farm agents are here to help because with over nineteen thousand agents their local to you and available to help whether you connect in person by phone just from people I know at the team when they tell you like how great somebody is I've never heard more gushing than this they love Cagey kitschy was still cagey through the state farm mobile APP agents are here to help so go with the one that has coverage in agents you can count on state farm talk to an agent today because you're looking at Brooklyn it's forty nine and a half yeah forty nine and a half wow they won forty nine last year they lost career where last year to this year I don't know if that translates to wins but the atmosphere is completely different what do you think of them from a basketball standpoint cause defensively they're gonNA be worse with Mazraa Start with the Celtics Guide maker Snarky joke are you if the number were sixty six over under add Horford all those things may be right about Cambe but it does feel like you're comparing the second boyfriend to the previous one rear like he's awesome doesn't he he doesn't punch my father and then the second one was espn dot com has a piece right now the headline wiggins there's not one hundred better players than me he was upset about the what Ubuntu mediating sometimes Kemba Walker it's like adding the all-time Anti Kyri kind of person have around where he's just happy he silenced Walker was much easier over for me when it was forty five yeah They are plus three fifty to win the division seems low at seven one win the conference will and this is your is your thing so I appreciate you guys inviting me and then putting part to here so you just take over I appreciate Iran so we taped we tape the west runs out and it's like all right we're saying stuff we're all going to be wrong sometimes it's GonNa happen this is really rug this okay so it's forty five unbelievable every few years you'll have just an epic one where you're like okay tactically re yeah okay and there's that twitter feed now where they love to call the how over what number would have been for you to know it's forty nine and a half forty nine and a half yeah ray send me what is it has getting made that well wait a minute Kyri was a was a high usage but a lower usage player than even Campbell was now Campbell was high usage with Charlotte uh it can't be a situation where it looks like the same thing we saw at the close of games where it's Jalen it's tatum it's guys watch because they had no choice I mean team was really bad I mean did you see their lairs yeah that's what I'm saying so we'll Kemba change especially as a fourth quarter closing I'll never live it out it was actually Kinda fun though it's it's fun when you're wrong it'd be like just way wrong we've all you do this long under the rankings where he was in the top one hundred he was so upset he stood in the corner for seven straight session he said that in disappeared for twenty minutes we were where's Angel Reagan's for my podcast now tape in the East it's we're doing this over the course of the day on Thursday two things have happened MBA related breaking news I won in his career which leads me to as Joe House I we haven't talked about this I have no idea what you're thinking my guess is that you like the over and I'm just there's a part of me that goes all right I know everybody likes Kemba Kemba seems to get more than Kai Rita's were in that honeymoon phase he's a plus just by not being Kyrie's already pointed out they're drunk Nixon he doesn't steal from me he really this could be the one kyle's right here why are you talking about basketball wise there's an Kemba is so and break things down I can't do it because he had to but that can't be the way the Celtics team plays because blow your mind right now yeah I think the I think they might be running through Gordon Hayward a crunch time he's a playmaker I actually think Kevin is going to be used more off the ball than he's ever been I the top two hundred he was he was the top two hundred wouldn't that be amazing he's like there's no fucking team and the reason is not on the offense of side of the ball it's the the double impact of not just Horford being gone but also I am not a top two hundred players every team has thirty thirty teams are the best seven all right so we did the West for doing the East Baynes Baynes I think was a pretty important stabilizing second line defender Agri them so I think they're going to be worse defensively the decline in defense it seems to me forty nine is the right number I actually think this team has a chance to be excellent offensively back last season but they were big stretches where he disappeared I expect them to be much better this year but is that the improvement offense enough to offset they're going to be slightly better offensively we just saw a again we I am very sympathetic to hayward making his way back pull up Kobe 20-footer guy and I think that part's important the K. was gonna be much better Kemba should be able to replace ninety percent of Kyrie's offense does I like everything everything I've read about tatum this summer and it does see Mikey's grasped the fact that he had kind of lost his way offensively and that his game here you you're going to be surprised I liked the under because I like them to win the state number of games last year I think there are forty nine win with how good he is bouncing off dudes driving he could finish with either hand stuff like that little floaters that's what he is he's not a in a few replaces the last five minutes the reason I really liked this team for the over is I think their way deeper than they were last year especially from an off offensive unpredictability angle I think they have guys who can come in who can swing the momentum again especially Carson Edwards who you know of me wanted to go back to the Brad Stevens who outperformed every projection all the time as opposed to last year words as he's admitted the most disappointing season in his coaching careers he scored point six three points per possession on Isos the worst mark among fifty one players with one hundred plus isolation possession basically sixty three points I thought the way he finished the season it became like you know what enough of this I'm just gonNA use my my strength my size and just go for it like I'm not gonNA play inside of anything not GonNa wait around for anybody else smart greatly improved but everybody's in love with canner to me there's a reason why cantors on a bunch of teams and it's tough to close games so there's part of me that's like hey hayward is likely can't be worse than it was last year and tatum who had some awful numbers do you have about this number other stuff people are telling you don't do that anymore he was doing all that it was really frustrating watch now Jalen I ended up respecting me as much as anyone on this team last year because through all the bullshit tim and Brad Stevens so I'm going over I don't think it's a lock but I like the over I think they're in that fifty to fifty one wrench it feels like a really good number here for nine and a half good over in I just didn't like their five best guys together last year it was a fundamental problem with the team whereas like this these five guys don't make sense Liam assuming that Campbell is terrific I if they go over forty nine and a half I'm not going to be shocked here but I don't have to make five different assumption so many go under so one last thing I think it's okay that Al Horford left at that money as I keep looking Atta and I and I just I didn't think he was great last season I thought he was I think they make more sense this year where if hayward is more involved and they're using more point forty I just if Kyrie didn't get hot the game kind of over this year they have like streaky guys which I like and I think grant Williams is GonNa play its a more professional how is easy is that Eddie House kind of guide that they just didn't have last year they the Celtics were spot last year where there'd be ten there'd be down nine they've done twelve and sandown thought he was bad in the Milwaukee series and and he's hitting a point in his career where I think it's either last vestige him so I'm GonNa go under 'cause I don't like their bigs and honest I'm still I'm assuming that Jaylen is good I'm assuming tatum gets back I'm assuming that hayward has helped the prime or post prime I think he's a much better situation in Philly but I'm not sure what they were losing with him is that like insurmountable 'cause you're busy it'd be a little undersized I don't care I think grant wins GonNa play and I think they're gonNA use him as kind of the center I also think forty five no Katie the whole year Kyrie Irving obviously cares levert healthy again for a full season thirteen and seven awesome teammate good defender all that stuff but it's not like the team's not gutted they can patch together some things and get seventy to seventy five percent six three points and now we're almost a half a point every ice oh possession of guys at actually were isolation players because there are no worse than the MB Oh free throws and Lanka's basically that he was just plain crunch time in the world championships to me was just nuts Deandra Jordan is involved by the way that's that's a really good point on the jury going back to Kenny Anderson and earl the pearl and nate archibald than everybody and then it'll start to go south around I would say two years ago and Boston he's GonNa come in he's going to be awesome for the first twenty games the Brooklyn fans are GonNa love him there's going to be we'll hear about the legacy of near point guards and spends time and I am going slight under I think they're in the F- This is another tough one I think they're around forty three forty four feels Yeah you're right I was misinformed I was misinformed about the decisions we made over there I think this over under is actually pretty good here's the thing with Kyri. We saw ramp rinse in here dinwiddie coming off the bench Joe Harris who has kind of become the most overrated player in the League weirdly what he gave them and then if you had the hayward smarts and hit a comeback year for him I don't think it's bad as you think anyway I'm going over you guys going under Brooklyn the over under shockingly and they also have the flexibility people think I'm crazy I really think tatum's going to small private sometimes like I think this team is going to be fast she'd threes there going to be a part of once you guys actually start playing pay played with the the best teammate in one of the best offensive players of all time and then clay three of the best teammates yeah there has been consistent enough for me to go you know mark it down like cair slivers going to be able to score and anybody and there's been just a lot of stuff about the Brooklyn thing and they should feel great I mean they pull this off they've done an awesome job culture it worked all there's not any knock on Brooklyn what I'm saying is the version of Brooklyn that you're claiming to be in love with is not going to be the version essentially derives from an institutional competence The Nets now have proven beyond a reasonable doubt to me that I you know I don't really know what this team is going to be other than forty five felt a little high because of all the excitement about the new pieces in one of those is going to be watching now more comfortable in those articles are going to keep coming out the Katie saying like I love the way you guys played well whatever the system was whatever it was before it was a bunch of interchangeable wings. NSA The insinuation is man it's going to be nice to go to Brooklyn finally being the right offense it's like fuck you you don't even know what's and by the way what offense are Utah Hey that I really made that tough to defend house which your take on all this I'm doing a tiny over for the nets that the all time series whether they could beat the two thousand one Lakers needed celtics I don't know but they were the best offensive team time by any metric you WanNa do and for the thesis for why a tiny over for the nets they have eight guys this is a nice stat again for my Homie Matt Moore they had east is is so bad that you're asking for them to be four games above five hundred and so many teams there's a lot of wins out there in the east so that that's the entirety get these two guys they could arguably the best player in the League and it doesn't matter if you have to wait a year and if durant ninety percent of PK eighty that's still an amazing thing but some of the stuff has been comical like Kyrie had eight guys who played over five hundred minutes last season with a positive on-court net rating not one of those guys on the team this year but they have a clue as to what's going on I think Kenny the coach is a damn good coach and I like the the two thousand seventeen warriors which is on the shortlist of greatest teams of all time and it's certainly the best offensive team about time whether whether they if you're gonNA do all sort of two and threes and it was kind of fun around Jared Allen who I think should be playing more minutes than De'andre Jordan I realized what Sanjay Jordan's defensive rebounding numbers are but he got I really do like curious over continues on the suspension that I think he's capable of then they can get over forty five win because I I like Harris that much now shooting has not been talking about what are we talking about of all time what's going to be better than that what are you doing in whatever they ran is not what they're going to run once you get there the Kenny Atkinson let's develop these guys was just like all right he's fine yeah with these weren't playing crunch time in fucking China against these teams if other countries want to renew and you want to rephrase that wasted about China I think that's a Katy might come back be careful can make the conference is too high in case he comes back in April and all of a sudden they're in the east finals locks in the comparison of what those Western teams are at the top the depth here is just well let's go to the Knicks let's go could see them getting off to a good start like in defiance of the NBA's Georgia wishy are we sure the east is that bad yeah we gotta sell under I don't like their forwards now care sliver is more I think an indicator what's going to happen here than even Kyrie ten million though no he got a recruiter good buddy right but jared allen to me is is somebody I I've grown to like more more but it's not like I wouldn't say this on my podcast but I feel like I can say on yours I thought that was really lame by K. 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I'm kidding by the way I would say to my pockets he played on the the Knicks let's go to the next over under is twenty eight there's been some action on the under the early May discussions like the problems on the horizon would have Kyrie goes there and he's the third star no wait a minute Zion's ado guys so they'll get it they're still they still have competence at a lot of You know across the board at position wise so I like them at at forty six I'm taking a tiny over there's a couple of east teams I think I liked a little more than I expected I just had a hard time he was worse last year you know how we just did in the West you go there six locks and then there's this group of four after that group of five maybe I got to like to locks in the east wow the pacers are lock and Celtics GonNa make the playoffs but it just zillow what how will Wilson Chandler's PD suspension impact his team do you think the rally around it he thinks 'cause you know he's just we did this summer and I've seen they had an exhibition game last night and we have some knicks fans the ringer and people. Wow Bobby Bobby but anyway the Nex this is one of the most perplexing rosters I've ever seen in my life plus seven hundred make the playoffs forgot to mention Brooklyn is twelve to one than win the division twelve to one when the conference which I've never seen before Claes on and Katie together is it okay to ask Katie to play the small towns I play the big and then Kyrie's there about the all the all of the and being the dealer walks over and we are hopes of of of winning a single hand are immediately dash she looks at us she Alzheimer's averages twenty two in the regular season in two thousand seventeen dips to fifteen in the playoffs doesn't say a fucking Peop- and I I just for Katie is angry at us she doesn't want us to be at the table because we are losers that's the Knicks a are losers they've in Wayne Ellington and Taj Gibson coming off the bench. What does that sound like to you it feels like we're sitting down at a blackjack table in Las Vegas in that has Dennis Smith RJ? Marcus Morris Julius randle Mitchell Robertson and then Alfred Peyton Reggie Bullock Kevin Knox Bobby Portis in what a letdown it really is just the Knicks fans because we make fun of them all I think I hate the next and I really don't I would much rather have the under at eleven fifteen years seven of the last ten for the last five the only way you could win here is barring two hundred dollars Ryen Russillo and never paying it back ace and then they could have just traded for Chris Paul for nothing overpaying all these dudes and it's like now they wanted short term that I mean for what we're all going under twenty eight we are this team can well God by the way can I just throw this at you guys are people already off Kevin Knox that quickly I'd like Kevin Ah they're both due for a couple of months so they've they'll bond over that so everything will work out to what's the record for power forward sign in one summer well can you imagine whereas now plus one ten you could bet over twenty eight you'd actually get positive money on it they're five hundred one win the Division One thousand one the title nobody wants to go there they had the best chance they've ever had this year and deandre Jordan was on that team for the last two months of the season as it turns out obviously owners season where it Snyder when you know server SAR and you just put them all on an island for Totta good basketball team in New York part of when we make fun of the next is to try to put pressure on James Dolan so he knows how bad he is he's been bad for twenty years now this what okay I think it's worse now after prepping than I thought sign makes sure our wait a minute are US egging each sneaky deep all away corner three she was like another twenty one she was like Tyson when you start to forty welcome now you just you can't actually even block the ax I feel like no one talks about him anymore I listen we've talked about this ten times during the summer but it's just amazing to me that they just didn't keep all the capstone I can we just go back and we go back we'll views but just think of the headlines in the discussions that we had about this team like okay can you miserable they are this is the knicks would you say it's going to happen would you pay for an it would be a series of survivor called Portis of Marcus Morris turns out this is even more awkward than maybe it seemed like it was going to be preseason house what do you think of eighty is sitting there going you know I just respect the way you guys play like crews and these pin downs awesome stuff I don't the three weeks douse definitely still the food I'll just he'll be the fall guy house don't go on survivor you like to eat too much it's funny there's a threat yeah but it's this guy so Agra what would be what would be like a Snyder Dole and faceoff event where you go I don't know who's going to win it would be a very limping and shake I'll be somebody would eat the beans late at night but not tell the everybody else be next morning like we're the beans one of those guys it like if houses on survivor anytime will host the next hour and a half before do that though state farm is are presenting sponsor we're very happy to be involved with them because today's episode of the Ryen Russillo show is brought to you by State Farm Gary exactly what you want to do today's NBA. I think it's the opposite I think within a couple of weeks people are going to be like wow we just played Mitchell Robertson and and has the team it is it is a culture of fear it's a culture of incompetence the players play their miserable and then they tell other players over insist table see how it goes it's not going to be that exciting England fifty dollar hands being like Klay Thompson in the two thousand sixteen okay so you gave Souza's Oh partido tillman would just start he I would like his chances versus the other guy I think telling me gets voted off on the first episode because they don't like kept telling everybody to shut up and listen they would see very close to Katie and career because he signed there and by the end of that season they're not they're not going near the knicks their disaster they're going to be a disaster until he in punches you just have to time the dodging kitchen has the river dave has here you can name was incredible I just I remember that I was drunk though there's some buzz that this team was gonna go kind of late nineties physical old school kind of Knicks team their fans remember so fine whatever both guys who were in black and they would see might they got along and then there would be sabotaging each other in the side would be my guess and hasn't has to remember is the name of the dealer that destroyed him to the point that he borrowed garage dollars per view that show all of us and then there's like a couple of guys stop by food disappeared people would blame house which would actually be a great move for the other people on survivor avenue the rights everyone will think house did it he's talked about Hungary was for feeding Marcus Morris on an ISO in a seventy to fifty eight we're down against the wizards like what are we doing what's the plan here Mitchell Robinson thing probably is more about like his Kevin Knox and Frankie smokes and RJ Barrett and why why don't we just building around those guys those guys are going to be here why why are we like I'm I'm right there with you first of all all they do is hit the over they hit the over every year they they hit the over the last eight years Inter succeed they've eventually find the right team and we all go oh yeah you know so anyway Nick zoolander we are way behind the fifty six wins for them he talked me into thirty six because there's a chance there sellers by December January I don't know Arro- they have the guts of a team that before coup why was like around fifty wind team they still have that that guts meetings a breather needing load management early in the season but I like that that I'm I'm I'm with you on over forty six I'm going under because liked getting guys in awesome shape with something to prove house my crazy over borderline lock for the raptors forty six no no I like the over I thought the stats when co I didn't play last year were really compelling I think there's going to be a little fuck you from this team where it's like we're the chance well house house was greater basketball I played yesterday none of us would wanNA put Dennis Smith half fuck maybe it was he was held down or held back because so much of it ran through Zion and that Duke didn't really get creative and that RJ in an open court like I wish RJ had a better point guard tired of a younger dude and Dennis Smith when he looks in the mirror he sees superstar which is great I mean it's great to have that confidence thinking okay now look forwards can think the then after cousy they still this bid forties number is is very accessible I feel like the only thing that you would worry about is some kind of a hang I do like him likable young players what if RJ actually is the guy that we all thought was going to be a head of Zion before the season started what if rj actually as the Toronto Raptors the most interesting of the thirty over unders I feel like it's forty six I think there's a twenty win swing with this forty six you could talk me yeah I think that's what I just said no I'm saying like in the league this is like if we went through four hundred and fifty guys like who's the worst guy to put out I would the score I guy like Dennis Smith in Rj may flourish a little bit more because rj on be more of a playmaker I would argue that that's the worst possible person to put next to people are counting us out how dare you crm there's a chance you know ear tacked on to the whole deal a- Baca is in a contract you're too but for the most part most of what we've seen from a back over the last years hasn't been great Knox Frankish stockists it feels too high after the international I just think there's a place in the League for a defense I don't need the ballpoint guard we've seen those guys it is not going to be but could he fill a lot of the same stuff that collided and there's an infrastructure and they you know they have guys in contract years which I've always in some fucking looks but this I'm GonNa put some numbers here I got to get that kind of money in the second contract ran we both added Bass over effect because Marcus all did just win the gold medal you know he played a lot of basketball after the finals even so you you know him you know few months of his fourth year before I'm ready to go okay this guy's GonNa make multiple all star teams and carry a franchise and if he's able to do that then they're good I think the other option the third option inspiring great okay so what else you put in Oh es this plumlee expiring great Oh cool the salaries batch you throw in a two first round picks now now of course we'll give you one okay so now I'm losing the heart of my team is he this is massages saying all right let's just start trading off these pieces my question is aware because I keep hearing that about the sprained ankle man I feel bad for our Jay Baron I really like him and I really believe in him and I like Frankie smokes I thought he was impressive at the World Championships for her I will say with him I do think he's a guy who wants to be great in when you read the pieces about him this was not a guy who won the title and then was picked up his fifth because Dennis Smith you remember like he's one yeah but Dennis is different because he hasn't been paid yet so I'm always really ski trek next year the market might be even better from the summer over Kenny Anderson Yeah overcut Edison for drug edge and expiring and like the Sixteenth picking the and you're like man he was more productive than I thought I'm with you because I know we sat and we watch those games and you're going he is not whereas comfortable right now but he had what thirty in game one of the NBA finals is GonNa be an all-star guy to somebody who can actually carry a team if you go back and look at the playoff numbers like I feel like there were moments with Siachen where he just was gone and you're like well that's what you'd expect out of a third year is there is there's three different paths here right one is the co I left we had a great record without him although I think that record is inflated a little bit can you still can you write like the gets harder to match the salaries unless you're getting back like so Miami has those salaries but then the picks not good kill Mary Oh gee okay I've loved that guy merit consummate with oh Johnny Johnson can't play so I really no no twenty five twenty six we looked it up and he was the more on the top thirty dollars is making twenty seven million a year whatever they're so many guys now making even though he was huge for them and maybe a deciding factor in the finals now Siaka really the deal here like a crm going to get into that what what a nice player Hind somebody like Hawaii if your crm the shooting numbers jumping up the way they have the analytics and all that stuff like these are all amazing signs for him but it's GonNa take another at the gym and I can just say hey google play workout music sure check out this workout music station on Youtube music a little help hands-free just say hey google hi that there's also a hey we just won this right we're Sol's like whatever dude and lowery's also that he he just got another to get started this is going to be so much fun phillies over under fifty four and a half their minus two twenty five for the division plus lock of lacks the over. I am all in on this Philly team as a regular season team I I really liked this team I liked them defensively I think the Dennis Dennis Smith team halfway through the game you're kind of make it I contacted the guys in the side haven pull up limp to five draft why am I doing that true but because I can't answer that right now in the middle just doesn't mean that something isn't going to happen at some point Masai is I think it's really hard to trade guys who were part of them like the other guy now is gone so you're being asked if this team is going to be good and win fifty games that gets up to you to be that guy every single night and you get to kind of draft guys and I don't think they care I think it'd be good what do you think has I agree with you I mean I'm I'm already on this over for more with building a house here in a second but we want to let you know the Google assistant is ready to help you get more done with just your voice in the car at home and everywhere you take your phone auto I I I've moved on guys sixers can I give you guys in Anobi Stanley Johnson Ron Day Hollis Jefferson and Patrick mccaw Fuck Mary are over I think it's this team bad conference depth loaded with talent and I'm going way way over I could be shoot three's embiid seems like he's actually in shape and if you just talking about what team in the League has the ceiling to go ten wins higher than the it's and Ben Simmons who I think could be a really good defensive player when he wants to be you had Horford you have embiid you have the flexibility now when embiid rest you can law catcher and he showed the warriors who won the title Patrick mccaw yeah all right we'll take a break we'll do philly next eight hundred for the conference eight to win the title you guys sit down Oh you're definitely because I can see you this is my got it's not that he's not even a that's not even a feeling like he we were watching games going disguise afraid to get the ball yeah and then you look at the numbers and we don't need his offense that's fine this starting five is ridiculous that Josh Richardson's one everybody forgets when he may have been the most consistent best player in the Miami Heat Miami mode and ate him for Jimmy Butler a year ago right so even though Butler comes in and provides Miami was closing scoring that they didn't have last year and there's part of me that thought in that game seven just going yeah though trade lower though it's like all right let's say Miami is really pushing for Calorie and Dad the Dragon Ben Simmons attempted seventy three shots from outside the paint last season seventy-three okay we know that we know that Ben is a dribble drive he gets an anger by the competition that they went up against the time wasn't playing and maybe they think everybody's doubting us let's go for a contract year okay I'm I'm willing to bet you know like the like the Ovechkin after the Stanley Cup just getting drunk everyday this guy is like all right we win the title now I'm going back in the gym I wanna even better and because this is for him it's right there is he the best I guess Co is the best Toronto after ever but he's from a career standpoint lower is probably the best Toronto Raptor Ever Slum Anna Trade this guy I am under Khan I'm gonNA throw a stat at you guys 'cause this is insane and it needs to stop the fact that Brett Brown is allowed this to happen for as long as it's happened for entire season is straight up embarrassing king thirty million dollars a year I think we read that if you look at the salaries now I'm GonNa salary-cap League with my French and we were deciding whether to keep Devon Booker not he made Copay Horford at center it's a really weird team it's it's so unconventional that the roster is unlike any other roster I've I've you could go through thirty plus million and it's like it's it's not like the old days where you can just Powell days it was hard because the percentage gap on the trade like now it's what twenty five percents it gets downhill on you he's impossible to deal with and we know it isn't shoot from the outside but compare that with embiid who attempted four hundred ninety three shots guard and center interchanging positionally on the floor for most of your possessions from positions where one of them who may be the most talented player you can't continue to be this on offense if you're the sixers that when I read that I'm like what am I kept going back to it you can't have your point so then it's like what would Miami do drag it window for Caldera I wouldn't do that if I was Miami my point is I think it'd be hard to trade these guys how many teams really would actually want Alvin be like wow there's no team like this team I think they're going to be a bitch to play and I think Simmons is GonNa be better I'm impressed by all the stuff he's done this summer I don't believe you it can't if it looks like I'm going over with you I'm with you guys because the bottom is going to be so bad and they're going to stagger their guys and Horford in Harrison Richardson and then run Ben and embiid or me can watching it recently how important Butler was the psyche of this team like you guys want to screw around and not know where the hell you're supposed to stand the fucking ball Jimmy Butler and I need Mark Asala big the Celtics would take him all right who are the Celtics trading they don't have contracts to match up from Arkansas see going on the line it's like I think they're going to be stuck with the how many regular season wins they have I'm not gonNA take him seriously to win an NBA championship also don't do the thing the other team is really hoping we're going to do split up oh yeah but I mean what I like about this team as a regular season team they have different looks depending on the game you know they they play lineup where it's field goal percentage of forty one percent ranked two hundred ten among two hundred eighteen players that qualified for that number okay that's a fucking joke or those are the other kinds of players and embiid should be talked about with and that you're letting him consistently do that big looping up fake that everybody's kind of figured out now from the three point line the League and embiid okay I don't think that's a great like yes Janas has better yes better Anthony Davis you know but embiid is in that group with those guys like that's the kind of guy he should be they Tobias Harris is even possibly trade peace has when you look at his team would he thinking the single thing that can hold them back the only thing like Horford Harris Richardson Simmons and pick a swing guy you can be thankful or they could go big with Horford and embiid together up there in Philly who've talked themselves into you know they watched Kawais shot hit the rim four times and you say well that wasn't Brett Brown's fault but you know what going to be potentially awesome this this eyeball Amanda my mind the highlights in my so mad the celtics take him but that's I'll get over it him Richard should be an absolute bitch for a team like the Celtics I I really worry about their point guard defense will be the only thing though the WHO the Kyri Dame loss I love the over I love Philly this year I think they're going to win the east the only thing keeping them for making it to the NBA finals is Brett can hold them back is exactly what Ryan Russillo just went through its Brett Brown and the six troopers and all the Brett Brown truth is out there outside of the pain in his affective field goal percentages remember dot com was forty one percent so embiid on his four hundred ninety three shots outside of the paint affected or that he's taken this many threes when he just doesn't hit it there's a difference between Oh we can hit that and yes we want you to take that shot so trying to figure this out it ron that I still believe in Stanley Johnson maybe it'd be a support group I think he's good defensively okay I mean he was somebody who had the ball in his hands me they should stagger or embiid and Simmons aren't playing together and interchange that but you know Horford is going to be the center when embiid is in there that can't happen anymore because if it does it won't matter later on whether it's like next vision the Midwest whatever you call it division the Milwaukee Bucks it is I think philly being awesome at least for the first couple months is in narrative I could see happening because I think this team is really talented I big band in the League stand outside the three point line and attended initiate offense or settle for a garbage three pointer it's in in the game where you're going you can knock Jimmy Butler all you want and he's given you plenty of stuff to knock him for but like dude one of the ball and that's a real thing come playoff time now tumultuous last year now Horford's in there I think as much as I like Riddick I'm not sure it was the right team for him and I thought he heard them defensively in a lot it's still it's weird I don't I don't know how that's going to backfire them when they get the playoffs Horford incredible teammate just going from you know they just have nobody on the roster to guard those guys though I wouldn't write him off he was I thought the best athlete glass trades to make too right because you think about as the seasons going along what becomes like the story what are people talking about in December you know like strong Watson and Russell Wilson Right now trying to talking about the defensive lineups he's he's solid he knows where to go and what to do but you're gonna be so big out there but at the five five guys are going to be Horford and embiid I imagine going to be was Brown's fault is exactly what Ryan Russillo wind through which is leading Joel embiid one of the top five well the single best good and I'm looking at this depth chart where Wesley Matthews is starting for them I think was he mathews has been shot for two years as a good player I don't understand what a strength of schedule up to December so they might come out sixteen in two or seventeen in one or something crazy I think it's GonNa happen all right so we're all going over we'll go back yeah I don't know I'm going to wait to hear you guys before make pick what do you think Forsillo I'm going over because it's the two teams that I know they're gonna be battling I would think for the one seed we closed games core versus here but he's I another guy who I think two years ago was done and then Chris Middleton coming off a really strange world and if for all the reasons that Priscilla just went through and yet they they permitted it and countenanced it all the way into the playoffs and they exactly play Philly are like hey you know it'd be awesome if embiid was twenty five feet from the basket for most of this game I hope they do that part I didn't even mention Tobias Harris when that is just unlike any other team I think teams are going to see them on the scheduling back fuck well the other thing to to your point bill they have the second easy brown I have them I love them as a regular season team and I think Brett Brown is what ends up costing them the title because they didn't do anything about it last year and he's for the over there's been some action on the under plus one forty to win the conference plus five fifty to win the title I just look at their roster the same time with Janas have free thing the bledsoe thing coming up the playoffs is the big Oh shit part of this team and whether Georgios that's how I should like that not good in my opinion not necessarily good for what I would have wanted this season because this is ultimately an embiid Simmons team it is but it was needed at the time Middleton is not he's never I don't care about the world games but he's never gonna be as impressive as you want it to be for the All star selections and for the contract and all that stuff and moment tippin ships but I the only way that this team is better than it was last year's Janas goes up a notch we've seen it we saw Lebron in two thousand ten we saw with or other or other or other locked to at least win fifty games unless he gets hurt their over under a now it's fifty seven and a half's even odds they're not riding a connotation I love that they added Robin Lopez and everyone thinks I'm crazy I think the Lopez brothers are going to play together I actually think they will throw them out of the hill and everybody's spread out it's fucking over man so yeah I look at them in Philly going I know exactly who they are and I'm not worried about it and that's why I'd Lean Action Network the they gave up the third most three point attempts last year but teams they ended up with and talent you could think is going to be happening out there it just it actually makes everybody better it it's it's almost you know what it feels like is one of the best in the League to jumping up what sixteen wins previously like unlocking Jaanus so the genus is so good that whatever else is going around whatever decline over on it house doing a tiny under because fifty seven wins is still a great great season I think that Brogden is a significant believe that Mideast eyeballs the first name that you mentioned we you ko see your freaking out about it too much celtics in taking was they watch them play on offense loss I look at at That Eric Bledsoe George Hill combination and it does not make my insides feel great and I also bumped into a stat on the simplysafe games where you can forget about him a little bit but this is all system Mrs Putin Holzer getting them from the low end of three point conversion rates moving out I mean really they wanted they didn't WanNa pay for Brogden which I think is always a little scary too when it's the team that has all the injury reports knows it intimately in two thousand sixteen if you're talking about a really really great player who coming off an MVP actually like oh I'm a even better this year that's the path but drop it's a tiny under for me win last year they were is an Eastern Conference version the Houston Rockets I think they the bucks can plug and play as well as anybody else out there that maybe isn't the rockets because of what Janas does the teams and when he's coming down Papa in the media and I think they're afraid of the reaction where they think but I think they I don't they can come up with a better choice we all know other reasons and we still see although I'm probably picking Philly out of the east and with how bad the bottom is I I still think they can get to the sixty wins even though you look at the pieces coming in and then pieces it didn't happen I'm a big I'm a big narrative guy when we try to do this over under it's like just like all right there storyteller storyteller moreau used to be a writer back in the day S. Sixteen twenty two I'm going slightly under I feel like fifty six or fifty seven as where they land in the reason I don't WanNa go over as I feel like even Janas new new system they're winning jaanus blossoming and Tim. Vp but you know if you have somebody great like Jaanus doc numbers are off the charts but then you can dig into it a little bit more and be like is that means a great defensive player though so he does seem like a good stats bad team guy but the sprains and ankle for two weeks then then it's over for I don't love the talent on this team I am not a huge Middleton Guy I think he made the also who's Twenty-second rate of successful threes so they gave up taught threes but teams didn't make them there's going to be a regression effect there eh go yeah we'll do a sign and trade in division her Brogden get to pick back yeah we'll figure it out here and it'll within their division that's the old Bella check tint that's that's him okay yeah we don't WanNa pay him this much and he isn't really a Guy League if you're paying somebody that much as a two that means you think you could carry you as a one for a month unfortunately he's the second best guy in this team this this is more of a one man show and then I think we want admit I think last year there was a real energy with them because it was and to me that's like a a a three game kind of all were all I'm asking for to hit for the hit go from sixty to fifty seven that's not as significant it feels like who he is so that's whenever everybody keeps saying like they're underwhelmed under one middleton like what have we figured out what the answer to this test is yet with him huge run where it was like this guy you know who's good criminal tenants like I don't at the east was had better forwards he doesn't make the all star team last year but I think that's as and you got it and he dude him he's not available e gotTa Work Him in your offense and run him off picks now it's just as fluid really crazy size team I just don't love it revealing we did these back to back but as we go through the top eight for Philly and the top eight from how could anybody after we just let's fifty two wins if the rest of the team is mediocre right to seems a little better than mediocre I don't know if there are a lot better than mediocre to through twelve very smart trade he's never played in a meaningful game his life Malcolm Brogdon who is in a situation where he was the third guy third guard every time you forever's I'm going I'm telling you what I'm doing right away with this this is one of my locks over wow under oh no way you look a year last year which I think is a huge sign I don't love his supporting cast on going under let's do let's do the Indiana Pacers we're waiting you don't even know eight percent left to work with and that's how I ended up here Janas last year shot fifty eight percent he averaged twenty eight and twelve and a half he had six assists again have blocks he got to the free throw line nine it looked more comfortable it looked like a part of what he wanted to do instead of hey I'm open I never take threes I'll just take this one there was a comfort level to his three point attempts towards the end he came in it was awesome it's like Oh cool Malcolm Oh he's playing well now he's making eighty five billion dollars over the next five years and has to run their offense they have bonus turner who I don't think makes sense together I'm surprised they haven't picked one botas said I've had it with this coming off the bench thing started five games last year and it was a pretty significant injury so it's like a rare injury and they've been awfully quiet about it the mosquito coast he's GonNa miss at least to me let's when he comes back we don't know if he's going to be all depot he's GonNa have a totally different team that he hasn't played with Dave TJ Warren who I really liked I thought that was the you look so over yeah seven and a half under I would also like to mention there plus six twenty five not to make the playoffs and I would like to this around the office if you get into some thing where your boss is saying you better back quarter Doug and we need you to step up I think doug just goes and a half times you see I was closing out on three point attempts in the preseason so better so better as what's thirty and thirteen twenty put that in the future basket I don't get it with this Indiana team Ola depot is out for at least two months so he got hurt January twenty third so it's the bonus cook and then Erin Haldane Jeremy Lin that's their top seven right now TJ McConnell's on this team as well I'm not seeing it if you're telling me bowl depots going to miss two months I just to me is a five hundred team house I'm right there with you I I don't think that honest offense and he says he was bossy goes you know what I've even really scratched the surface on Doug I'm about sixty percent of what I can be so just hang in there because quick though I think he could be everyone listening right now and Yada is not anybody that I would ever want to doubt okay but I think this is a lesson for life and you should just do behind schedule now yeah we are now this we can fly through some this welcome to the over others this is how we do it is we do it Mantell Ella and just go this I mean the sky's the limit over here I remember when we talked about you working for the ringer you leg man amid twelve percent right now this is twelve sixty part. Yana said I'm at sixty percent sixty percent of what I could be in people just took I'm GonNa Start Introducing Myself as Ryan twelve percent nine and thirteen I did not three point shooting in three point shooting writer that's the answer one hundred percent while he had twenty five point six percent last year what it looked better assist about sixty percent and everyone just goes with it like that that's kind of one of the dumb media thanks for what will they be like one hundred could I just start telling people I'm a fucking twelve percent the thing is is significant and prominent an issue and there I don't love this point guard rotation of Brogden and Aaron Holiday degree I I think they're floor is like thirty eight and I think every year in the season we have an old team where it's like what happened to those guys they're three and nine I think are going to be better than five hundred by the way there's enough talent and because they're in the east for them to like their their floor is like forty two or forty three theft can you cook something up for US Malcolm I don't know if he's that kind of a guy so Brogden last year twenty minutes a game he them but I asked a thank he was an awesome situation in Milwaukee you know he he's playing with the best player in the League at least best regular fifty forty nine to guy fifteen point six points a game but you're in this awesome situation when the honest and you know you're the third option and who who's the other one I- McConnell he asked I listened I really like Malcolm Brogdon I think it hurts more to have I am too I think this is the number one candidate for that I am joining you on the under I think that that all the depot teams are worried about you less than the two best guys on the floor for your team and I are different situation where you know he's not a guy who gets the free throw line he's going to plus they lose Bogdanovich who is somebody that had created a lot offense for them to I think it's a weird team I just don't like it if it does work out though I thought the Jeremy Lamb pickup was good Asia that were the reasons he dropped in the draft seems to me like if anything happens to him which is a reasonable expectation combined with the oil depot thing there's so much uncertainty it's a creative own shot a lot and then you look at his last three years like he was banged up last year he played forty eight games the year before he lot of injury questions in in college bounced back a little bit from it but if you read any of the local stuff with the Pacers it's just this lack of belief that he insa bones can play with each other Zeke's clear he he established himself as somebody Mancini some star he doesn't change your franchises but he was the only other option they had Down there in Charlotte saying this really nice run during the regular season and then once we saw in the playoffs they had their pants pulled down where it was like you guys can't get a bucket to say you like miles Turner I went back and is important the week he's one of those if he has a great if he doesn't have it we don't want to wear out yeah yeah now your situation it's like Kay were down three with five minutes was kind of like why am I offer him because in the beginning it was like wait this guy's really talented and he dropped more than he should have in the draft and then two years ago he had a dip or it looked like it was going on wrong way but what he was consistent enough so I think that was kind of Iki pick up I think more people like TJ warn the necessarily I do but they always play defense they've won forty eight games the last two seasons there's some flex with that and then you know just from a defensive standpoint if your perimeter guys are for at least the first two months Season Abroad Reggie Jackson Bruce Brown Tony Snell Blake Griffin and Andre Drum that you're starting five Derrick Rose Luke Kennard the Lesser Morris felt like everybody wanted to write him off well of course we all wanna write them off after all the depot went down because depot was playing all NBA level. I mean he was unbelievable yeah and they still maintain play and that's what they're going to try to do apparently and that's another thing with this team is I think they're a major trade candidate there's bonus Jalen Brown has always been a rumored trade but uh Detroit thirty seven and a half men this team is weird if you did you look at that depth chart I did and I love 'em house over are under a soft under okay flaccid not enough flaccid with I I am a hard erect under thin. TJ Ward Jeremy Lamb Aaron holiday now I I don't like this team so I'm going under forty seven and a half and I think yeah thirty eight and forty four that's shitty record in the East and their shitty team in the east and that's a winner so yeah I like the over here I noticed you didn't mention thon maker Seiko Moya did not mention either now house under now I'm going over okay they've gone over earth three of the past four years they only need to win thirty eight games to hit the over so thirty eight and what is that forty four thirty eight in some of those peak clippers years top ten player flirting with top five he was top five in two thousand fifteen MVP votes. I like the over to K.. Five hundred team last year when you look at what Blake did last season he's gone from Oh my Gosh look at this guy playoff numbers good didn't love him in the playoffs though didn't love what I saw the numbers he's hurt the contract all the different stuff Dr I think people just don't like the East but man I I like this team less than Chicago and and even Atlanta definitely Orlando and you go down the Lions and now Blake Griffin is incredibly underrated he is his numbers I can't believe that he took seven threes a game and hit thirty six percent Berkey and then a bunch of Morris you that you think they're equal minus one fifty not to make the playoffs which I think is this Blake Griffin agrees underrated but there's a caveat he's had a lot of lot of lot of wear and tear including last year and I don't like Reggie Jackson because I don't like his decision making so the numbers will tell you that he's he's better than I think he thought Sam Bruce Brand I don't have many somehow he started he's starting he's on the depth chart but derrick rose at the very least whatever you think derrick rose he proved that he can is able to play together say like you know sixty five games or even sixty games in their slightly above five hundred in those games he's thirty we've seen this apple it's with athletic forwards again again their game changes they learn to adapt they've had a lot of injuries and then can maintain that what you just described as his semi permanent injured status but play in say I don't know sixty eight games and that three Oh shit I'm not saying there about Derrick rose but he's an asset now at least at this point that fair to say sows sows Joe Johnson and we're GONNA play that game that's unfair then you get to thirty eight without too much stress. NBA History says this is right around the time it's GonNa Start Flipping for Blake Griffin okay drumming and and Blake Griffin play together that only happened forty times last year they're twenty two and eighteen so like that's the team if there if Blake this year isn't it I I hope so it feels like he's been on there forever house where we're going to say with staff did you F- just that win Reggie Jackson and Andre Edge but he I think it's seven something games but for him you know I think that was the best we're going to see him going forward Lebron's your guy you you went on TV after the Lebron China thing and you were like look I know what he said but that wasn't what he met right if I were it's like when I after the China thing you know when when do you want me to do a Lebron Blake answer to this now it's like you know breaks your guy kind of ceiling for his body and then he ended up getting hurt anyway to me it's only played in two of the playoff games and they got swept by the box but he was he was hurt down the stretch down the stretch Donovan Mitchell was better in college than Luke Kennard what are you doing the Reggie Jackson signing it just feels like that contract was twelve years I don't know it's not over yet it's over it's twenty five not to make the playoffs should be mentioned house you're under eight I'm under I'm not GonNa talk about say your the people that fell all over themselves to defend Lebron when he fucked up when he gave that press conference was embarrassing right it was how about this he had no idea signed cover blake I be like what you don't understand is that he has a family and he's got to make sure that he's able to like play with it heaven of Daryl Morey like Lebron what he said wasn't bad because Daryl Morey hasn't tweeted got enough American social issues was one of Russillo me down as luck how lock I see I think I think this is all about Blake's comedy in your respect last year when he got busy finally was healthy and then right when he wasn't but I don't think he was healthy last year I think he had learned how to play with a different the dumbest fucking pivots of like wait a minute what happened here was bad and what happened here was also bad so now we don't get to go back and say because Daryl Morey wasn't tweeting about every it really starts to go on them and I feel like that's going to happen this year thirty seven and a half Pistons over lock under wow you're going locker the money he he puts you you're going to be fucking kidnapped okay this wasn't going to be taken three were leaning over there being like I've heard Lebron is in this hotel like it's not I know what he's trying to do but he did a bad job in the execution and you're right you could tell you always know when you're about to say something like am I ready for this yeah and L. Let you go here but it became this thing where it was like how can we make this about players versus management to go women so he cost you that's a fun game three infancy Johnson three every pay intenders a stat it's like this roster and it was funny Eddie Jobson's Oh six that you're suggesting the terrel Maury needs to be more educated on the topic because of your business interests and that's fine one of the five smartest people I've ever talked to in my entire life who has fifteen years experience dealing with the Far East right with China specifically because of the Yao Ming deal and how long honestly I would respect Lebron more financial as part of his thing right so I've hurt US financially it's like who cares about financially it's okay in that moment to go Lebron he's GonNa say he rambled for a minute it was incoherent and he had to do to its declared up that's what actually happened right you said that Daryl Morey Mit Grad it might kind of in that group a little bit invited to one of the Parties Yeah Blake's your guy he's protection delicious I couldn't houses at least I've ever talked entirely a Standing Gandhi has now on a second media job since he's Kinda ruined this team ceiling and they're still paying for since like Luke Connor it sucks when you're not and no one's asked me a question that's Ben anticipated the answers anticipated as much as something like that will bron but it was a whiff and you shouldn't have said like you shouldn't have suggested that Daryl Morey of all people he may have been wrong you may not like the repercussions but that he needed to be more educated for his ability to thrive in a second shot it'd be invited to one of his party's yeah I like that part of my take forty angle no it's not the ball in why are we looking at their Moore's role in this why didn't there amaury tweet domestic concerns why did he just go after China there is a whiff yeah and I think the other part of that is just say what you actually met you can't say and he he poured gasoline on a fire and then we had to go there and deal with it for five days fuck that guy that's what he wanted to say he just didn't say it is getting crushed but then he goes to say and then I felt like they did this thing where it's you guys understand how tough it was to be over there and all the stuff in our families and it was dangerous and that's adults guitar he just started talking he's like Shit I don't know that's all we have to go on five filming remarried faulk and really the more I think the Maury thing how's that he's back to he can get you some buckets he's never going to be that guy me now that I hate when people say that stuff like you know if Ryan guys thirty eight we like he's not prime this last week sucked we were going to China sock this guy knew were going there he's been dealing with China since two thousand six hundred became the GM tweet you guys would have been all over him and now it becomes this back of the car thing where it's like he did this though and I did this and then I credit silver saying at that wasn't going to happen so when when there was a chance to like pivot blame management on the whole thing you're like not your statement sucked tweet the presidents of bum right no-one said Shit to you so and that's fine I don't care the Lebron did that I don't care and I liked it nothing happened to Lebron Tom are going to jump on it because of the whole shut up and dribble Lauraingraham thing like it's a it's a very clear correlation here was like wait a minute you don't like it when you're told where it was like now I think everybody's kind of missing the point here and I love when people do the Amal for free speech except for the situation I used to hate when Tony Parker happen Luca every year there's one workout guy and everybody starts jerking off because the guy had you know twenty threes in a row and they're workout and it's like stick to sports but you basically just said Daryl Morey you don't know what you're talking about and so I don't know that anybody could help if you could be the biggest Lebron guy the topic because he had he's the face of the WHO he's over there no he it just it would have been one of those things where this is what sucks for any of these guys as if he never says anything that are you looking at them you're like yeah they took him over down Mitchell that's going to be his legacy as an MBA report could add Donovan Mitchell they took Lucchino always think that's unfair though when you do the drafting thing and you go back in this year actually planning on watching them on a unle- pass a little bit Zach Levine Darker scoring title candidate in case something happens to her it's okay we all screw this up sometimes yours but it was also okay for people to cover the NBA that have good relationships Lebron to say you know what his statement sucked leash shooting that somehow Lebron made a good point when he talked I think I think we're being too vague about this right now now we're being the right amount of ache the the number completely left wing it's fairly easy to identify the Pakistan that point if you're in the media don't make excuses when somebody that has been good to you under that's all I don't have rush now so you went under so I did a you know yeah sorry Cleveland Weird looks up let's go to Atlanta oh no are we done with this conference Oh Cleveland we do can we do this quickly twenty four and a half will like learned what it what it's like to play at the speed and with the athleticism the NBA and he has his own self possesses Pretty Damn good athleticism yeah there's just everybody's just I think that the richer and more famous and successful and all this stuff I actually think the pedder you become and everybody got real weird on this one one and a half they actually moved it up of a win and they're still action on it's minus one forty five right now they're plus two ninety to make the playoffs and this is my favorite bad team there is a path for he could average like twenty eight twenty nine a game Markkanen Window Carter I really enjoy outta porter veteran we're in a rush we don't WanNa talk about you the one the team I do WanNa talk about us on this division Chicago thirty two and a half there's been some action on this one it was thirty awesome but he is still like five percent clueless and that five percent clueless as a starter becomes you know fifteen else ability to free speech and say how it feels about a subject but I kinda wish he didn't do it right before the entire MBA was in China and I wish he'd waited hiring house if Sata ransgate does he had the ability to be like a decent Malcolm Brogdon on the bucks kind of guard for them where I'm changed the outcome of games he as as the starting point guard it's it's it's not GonNa be good I still like them as a tiny over though marketing and car terrible last year one of the defense was really so I am a I'm going slide under I don't feel good about it house there's actually a higher ceiling for this team than we think no is a perfectly competent backup guard okay as something and then say afterwards we all know what I've met is now actually we don't know where you bet because you hadn't said anything about it and I was thinking what you meant was that good but just on the team knows where to go with to do and then Kobe who I think's going to be good in Ben excited about I must elect Luc Cornet I just listed eight guys I like I think they're going to have a lot of a week because it was a really tense autoweek for us yeah it would have been great but he was able to come up with that and then of course the people that already don't like Lebron or don't like that he's tweeting about the president calling them of you should be able to figure some things out and the Mark Levin Scoring Combo is great and should be complimentary but levine isn't about the raw numbers round numbers terrific what he should have said though and he has a media strategy could figure this out and be like hey swansea that China thing like that was a really rough intense week for us and I support there I don't know they they might be nineteen when team they might take swinton good if Garland is good over but they're I mean they're historically I mean he was he was awesome from a traditional number standpoint last year his defense we know is bad but we saw him working onto the beach so that has to mean something on instagram and let's see it right I think it was only twenty one games they played together Carter's already had the thumb injury abdominal surgery rolled an ankle and he you know he's not going to stretch the percent clueless or twenty percent clue as you get what I'm saying like as a backup he can fuck up get lost a handful of times mirror dunk here and there and and you know it does floors people that complain about three point shooting at this point you know what did you think you were getting but he's a really smart sound guy that I feel like some of those some of those players that are at least his size eh why the Bronx I still don't have an explanation for why he spoke why did he think that he had anything to add because he had did we did go yeah I think it's pretty close that's that's the respect thing be honest just going up is he can be fifteen percent better okay can we bring that up but when he went at silver said yeah but if he had said that I would have been like yeah he's kind of rate but but think like the he wanted silver and said you know if a player has sent out that but knows where to go with to do when a house favorites Thad young veteran is veteran new word for not in his defensive differentials ticked up a little bit but they're still not great and if you WANNA go real plus minus which isn't always fair especially when the team sucks he's one hundred and eighty eighth okay oh Levin is give me half an effort on defense keep your offense going and just the right shots and he has improved he's gone from one of the worst show select them to win the Division as minus one twenty and and I think there's three teams that have a chance to be the three seed the celtics houses in the general area of these teams division Wow I guess my raptors in Miami and what's interesting about Miami is they if they have a trail like at the end up getting Larry they pull that off if they can somehow upgrade the dry the favorite there over under his forty three there's been a lot of action on the over minus one fifty five and this is another one absolutely love okay great but one specific thing when the offensive possession stops so many players stop K. and Klay repositions himself and all he had the feast on some of these less talented teams in the east so I think I think it's an over here even though I don't I don't love all the moving parts but there's some version of this were if they're just pitch bachelor again I liked garage but if they upgrade that spot somehow Chris power you know then the ceiling goes up if it's Chris Power Urasoe over with this right yeah it's kind of it's it's a subtle thing I think it's an older thing hero did that Kentucky Yeah so that's my when I saw that I'm like whoa I average health versus what they've been I think there'll be some consistency there we know to to these guys are really good scores has your over as well I'm the guy in a in a team that I wanted to be on who's he gonNA hate them most though probably Kelly Lennox I have over forty three I think it's a lack and and I like the team okay let's go to the last division which is the it's getting warmer and there's a lot of chick fil A.'s and waffles spurs did this for years when they had the thing rolling when they revamped themselves offensively you just reposition yourself a little bit because the defensive players looking the other way you get all sorts of open looks living is an asset dion waiters finally in shape and then Butler confirmed and yeah we do and Jimmy Butler who is like finally I love the over I think this team's GonNa be good they have a lot of players I'd just like like if you're listening if you're like hey just make a top it's over under his like six months higher they're going to be they're going to score they're gonna be exciting there's going to be real energy at their games which has not happened for five years down there and I'd also love to see a little bit more winslow at point guard because the numbers were significantly different versus Tim is a forward so thirty nine and forty three last year so we need four more wins with me Butler and dragged back and we know S- pollsters terrific their seventh and defense you're always gonNA defend what list of players you like this team has like seven of them I've always liked drudge heat have seven top fifty players just that I like just that I just just went through a lot of examination of how competent they are how deep they are at a lot of positions and there's also to me and the draft so my first thing was under because they were twenty two in sixty last year at thirty two and a half but I think they're going to some stuff when he started running the offense with all of their different injuries and Yeah I mean Butler dragoj Bam Olympic desiigner bridges and just say one thing about tyler because I did the draft stuff with him or at kept coming back to one of the great things about Klay what makes clay there's a million things this is this is great stuff Olympic competent rotation Guy Bam outta Bayer everybody loves him because white sides go right whiteside Lee they can do different things house what do you think I'm joining you on the Lock Bill Simmons because I also this forty-three is just a very juicy number we institutional stability with the heat in fact that was as the last season ended the biggest surprise to me was the heat fading down the Stretch in Charlotte picking up steam I think this heat team still has a move left to make them competitive and that's what makes that three succeed idea not completely off the reservation effing crazy so I'm joining you on the lock they only have to get to

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NBA Free Agency Preview + Predictions, Baybeeeeeeee

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2:26:47 hr | 1 year ago

NBA Free Agency Preview + Predictions, Baybeeeeeeee

"The. For the direct game. Saints one. Slane anything plane. The best. You went flat. In the game. Ago's about will the word fell. Now. Amine, you we talk at literal hours per week we travelled out, more on the Pasha we've had many private conversations. Can you just let the people at home know how many times I've pulled you aside to spend like men, I'm praying this kyri bum leave so he can open up the cap space to sign the real real style Kemba Walker? I mean I didn't know if you want to take in front of the carton. But it's the only thing you said to me for the past seven months, eight right? I just there's going to be a lot of a lot of Johnny-come-latelies to this party. So I just want everyone to know that off the record this has been what I've been plotting fair pretty much since we acquired kyri. So you're all in on Kimbe to Boston this point. I don't know. I just can't stop watching old Kemba Walker highlights just fully invest with myself, and I can't wait for now kyri to go to the nets of cabinet assign with the Lakers and me. Do sitting there with my putting my hand house say this is all for early like June twenty seven to the start of free. There's a lifetime. So many hours, I literally had blocked today to like. I put like the high did like a twenty five hundred where I'd like Celtic free agency, primer, and I blocked all these flares like I'll probably fifteen of them and every time I put a picture of a player, I made sure Campbell was in the background or directly next to him, or free. I just I look up like Seth curry like Hornets. Like, what was the most ridiculous like Clint, Capello Hornets and there's a picture of Campbell like dancing past him for an open layup lay Clint cappella holding a hornet's nest. That was the first like seventy returns on Google images. But I finally found one, so the full max, I'm guessing like four think one forty is number. I wrote it down somewhere that sounds right? Yeah. Because the Hornets reported offer was once sixty. So it was still more than the Celtics there. But less per year. Right. Does he give you any of the as Thomas as that contract ages concerns? I looked at, like Kemp is never obviously Gordon Hayward. Never had any injury concerns either. But like Kevin suspend like relatively durable woman. Meaning over the hip injury by you don't wanna pay before the hip injury. And I get it some saying, this does Kimball come with any of those concerns, Kemba can like dribble. He came, but he can't. I think he's no, he get offended. That's, that's mainly like he's going to get picked on defensively and. I mean, we'll see. I'm sure it can be schemed around. We'll see if the Celtics are able to do it over science Kimba. But I do think if it's the full four that would worry me, again, not because the ability, I think he's played like seventy games, at least every year, every one year yet, like, oh, one year was a lockout year, so that year he played like sixty something like that. That doesn't concern me. And also I will say, every God, I was just gonna say everything I saw reported today was that it was going to be at three. Plus one player option. Okay. And I mean again, once the full for had do that, too, but through act like I do wonder he hasn't played like legit playoff game since I his early couple years, and even then. Gone. Well, I mean like it was a different. Download he's been in the postal before last time. He's in the postseason was twenty fifteen sixteen more recent that I would have guessed same. And also in that three years of the NBA change like four times. Yeah. Like in twenty fifteen like I don't know if it was necessarily a get picked on thing. And it's like if you're as good if it's a Steph or Dame or whoever on offense. It works. We'll see if Kimble's Ted level, and I'd like, I, I hope he does go somewhere. You can compete, and we get to see. Yeah. I think it raises this team's profile from, like a six seven seed till like four seat of everything goes perfectly, which won't. But I think it's just going to be like a fun team if he does Boston now what I'd have kept telling myself and more so other people try to tell it to myself, but I'm just not listening to myself, when do you remember Albor for the last time he was a free agent. What happened right before he signed he stunk. I remember that very well. He still does. No. The last couple minutes before July fourth the last couple minutes before like the official opening. He watch tweeted out that he had severed ties with the Boston Celtics was pecking between the wizards and the funding to do the thunder being pretty much what I thought was the play. Right. And then Durant signed with Golden State, and Horford was like, all right. I'm going to Boston. So yet, just think anything's. What are you? Who do you think is the closest thing to a lock as of where it's like for Thursday, a ten fifty five pm where like two and a half days away from an opening something like that to two and three four stays away this car recount, because I feel like the closest locked me carry definitely counts. Oga Yukari fills like a certain lock to me. I would agree this Kimba like it's, it's gaining steam, it really makes sense, especially if you know they cleared out the Baynes contract. They knew they needed every penny. And yet he wants to come. You do it. I do wonder if that's the best way to spend their money, though. I, I don't. Thank it is. However, I think when you have as brutal summer from, like a not even PR, but, like with your fan base, and with maybe players around the league, I think, like Campbell, the player is going to be. You're still really good. I like I don't have any pursue like like he's going to be good for all four of these years, like when I signed with ran after that definitely not going to be good player, but I think it's a move on both fronts. It's like all right. Everyone calmed down, and like we got ourselves point guard. True. I just the somebody erode. I came it was ringer, but I can't remember who had rose. They're gonna spin that type of money, they sharks, their boost of each over Kimba after that reasons he listed. I, I don't disagree the thing. I know with Kimba he's he can play off the ball but he's going to have the bond his hand a lot, and it's like our juiston Tatum to get an upstanding around again. Like, that's what I this is the season, where it's like, okay, I wanna push them to their limits. Let me spend that money like Bruce Mitchell get touches. But somebody has to get him the ball. That's why I won't take juice trying to expand the game. I think my car tax. I've seen some Celtics fans worried about that, too. Is like Kemba averaged roughly the same assists skyer e passing a no one. I don't congress. Thanks, where you get it. Eggs. I don't I don't think campus like not a willing passer as much as he's played in his whole career with little to pass to thought. Hundred percent him to change for sure. But I don't I don't see it as. Development, stunting move. I agree. I just don't think that's in his his nature. But I, I do want, like just by virtue of there's only so many rips to go around. He's gonna get a lot. And again, there's there will be plenty to go around so there ideally everybody will get some and Kimball pride closed games out. But yeah, definitely if he says, he wants all NBA play wants to join you. You say, yes, let's progress atco, I'm yeah. I think that the cash AM signing him if Ange like this would be the third time the last four years in last year. He just sat which turned out to be the wrong move. But I get why he did it last year was like we're capped out where just going to bring guys back. We're not doing anything. We're going to bring rag noted good guy, kyri Irving this locker. But three of the past four seasons, if he lands whole he won't have landed the number one guy, but he will have gotten that, like second top of that. Second tier free Asian guy, which I don't think is small fee. No. I agree. That's especially come from by getting nothing year after year. Right. So for sure. There was all those. There's also report I saw. And this kind of would I imagine go out the window, if Kemba signs almost instantly, but Durant scheduled the Celtics for meeting for did you see this for very specific reason? No. It was not to, like figure out how they beat the Houston Rockets or anything like that. But it was because of how they handled Gordon Hayward rehab. I back. I did see that. Because I was like interesting as well. Right. Like that. They're like, I don't get me wrong. I'm still furious at how everything played out last year, but for guys who let I literally just left San Antonio, because they wouldn't let him rehab, the right way. If guys around the league are like we know what Hayward was before. He got hurt. He was Blake borderline all star in the right conference. A good top thirty five Ischgl Claire, and that he was good. I'm trying to play it modest so top twenty twenty five twenty five issue that feels. Okay. So they let this heat they had them for five minutes who suffered a horrific injury. I pass it makes you think. Yeah, no Cairo stole in the moment, I heard a size that past like what a terrible terrible. But he gets hurt five minutes in a lot of guys like general Parcells never as good as Gordon Hayward when he came back struggled. He was just immediately buried never to be heard from, again the Celtics. Well, it ended up being detrimental in this singular season gave Gordon Hayward the longest rope, I've ever seen someone get. And I think guys like play as on my didn't consider players, like yeah, that's like hot, maybe how it should be. Like did you see would Igwe dollars been saying, no, he's like he wrote a book and his he was on breakfast club talking about. He was like last year. I think in the finals, he's like I had a spider fracture, I think, in his foot and the team kept saying, like a bone bruise, as like no it's like I've seen it and yet bone bruise. So athletic training, much harder than appears much like being GM. So, yeah, I do believe that also things gonna pay. Real dividends, cause I think Hayward's gonna have a good year. And that's another is like, don't want the ball at, like Joe. I want him to be my primary creator. But again, there's it's enough to go around even Kimber desk. Yeah. I mean right now we don't have any centers. So I think like those four people are going to play. And then smart at the five like I'm fine with it isn't gonna work. Probably not. But I'm fine with it. I mean, try something shoot. This is basically like the ideal version of the Hornets team Hayward was trying to sign with. Yeah. Like a hundred years later, also, I have no idea how the Hornets were like five one sixty and not a dollar more. That's chaos for me. Yeah, that's. Hostile as salt. I get Campbells city would take less, but that's like substantially less. That's more than ten million dollars per year. Less about to. It's were literally twelve million dollars per year. Less over five years and the offense guy he's he's. He's our all time leading everything. This foyer. I got I gotta pull up. I think another team won forty. I was like, I don't know how you don't at least start with the four year. Supermax if the Celtics aside, I've, it'd be one forty point six further them, his what he could have died was to twenty one nine. Okay. I think is what by for two twenty supermax. The regular Max's five one ninety. But does it say four year for eight you just tracked? Forty three million dollars. Geez. I dunno at one fifty something year. One is thirty two point seven year to thirty five point three than thirty seven point nine forty point five. So that's what you would be paying him if you give them a four year. Yeah. I feel like offer that I or even like the five going, five years, I felt you're gonna at least go, regular max just offer five two hundred like, that's something, like, hey, this little less. We don't really want you to take it. But like I weaken save face with our own fans and not have like insulted are franchises. All-time leading score. Yeah. I'd also like two hundred on the it's also like Kim, bumping from a narrative standpoints, like, yeah, it'll sound good. But he left twenty million on the table, man, a good round figure. He lived twenty eight. Right to stay in Bill with these bones and mobile people like they gotta let them go and start the rebe. And there was a time I thought this, but also that they should have traded him once they realize this, that's where it comes off. The I don't see how you let them go. Now because you're bone either way. That's all should either way. They seem to be shoving him out the door pretty much boy, you don't wanna take substantially less after taking substantially less. Your previous contract aboard. Yeah. Yahoo sports has this great like widget built for each team, where it has like their outgoing free agency cap situation. How it's dead cap like luxury tax covers all that, and it has everyone's last year like the deal they're coming off of. And to see Kemba making twelve million dollars last year is. Like, outrageously what he's about to get is too high twelve million outrageously low did. And that's honestly how he takes the supermax if that's really how we're taken it. It's not five to twenty nine for like two sixty which you do great. All he an Conley just one, I think teammate of the year, and I know I saw Kimble was second like that's where he means teammate to the community. And I don't fire for one. That's disrespectful. And it's wild to say that one hundred sixty million dollars, but it really is the principal, you can't build like if you save this money, this haircut, I'd take helping you not me. That's what it comes down to. It's also like average annual value is like not more than what Boston can offer not more than anybody can offer. Right. Like you have to. Yeah. Like anyone like if you're just like here to companies you can work five for one sixty or four for one forty you'd just like, wait a minute. That's why am I getting a twenty million dollar decrease the last year that no, thanks with its really? I think it was win horse breaking as like that's really the Durant decisions like we were saying he might like sign the five year to get the max. It's like he'll get the four year. Mac anyway, in that last year. The cap will be so high his first year number will be like forty six million dollars. So it's like you're really not like your for maybe going year to year you're saving maybe twelve million late made little, it's just not over five years is not that much anymore. So you pores. Right. But I'm looking like if they keep Kimba a lot of their like one MK g Williams Biondo come off this year. Like that's fifty two million off. If you just don't do anything and ad Kimball. And I feel like after the I was like I would see if I could get a tomb and any kind of picks for like Kevin love. Just like another big contract. But. He's a he's almost if he's got all star level in, but I think he's got borderline all star left, and he'd be the best. Blake Kim's played with maybe ever Jeff easily immediately. Sounds like freshman year, Shabazz Shabazz, the like on a black okay? Can we give you tune? And if they like one of the young guys that's fine or future picks, like that's the price you're gonna have to pay to try to compete. So like the tomb in two picks for love, then you ride this year. That's fifty million view. Okay. We've get Kim below and a little catch base, m you're young guys are still cheat. That's something. Yeah. They don't seem to be wanting to do that. I'm trying to like Stephen Adams only. He's. Disobey. Lable. They might just. Flop. It foot like Oklahoma City just want to smaller tax Bill. As today that said Oklahoma City wasn't going to sign someone to like the mid level exception, that they have opened another down. Real bear real bad. They're so far over the gap. They come in next truly rebuild series of stay tuned. Boy, that's like tear it down. Is getting tougher and tougher dip depend, man. I want to all these seems to just blow it like just Westbrook George Adams, Schroeder alone has over the salary cap. Those four alone. They need eleven other players to fill out a roster. I'm too, I'll spoiler Ryan. I think they have to move Adams immediately. And then as soon as they do that. They're still over the caps. You attach a pick to get off roader in a pick to get off Rogerson. Yeah. And they're like, it's you'd have Westbrook, George grant, who fits with them dependent on the pick. I think you could get like Patterson is five million, but one year, so if you like whatever protections, he put lighter protection you might get somebody to take him to. Ferguson, whose cheap you'd have the option to resign Maryland's you'd have Hammy who's cheap Deontay burden. They drafted Baz badly. And I think you would have. I don't like a little bit under the cat or little bit close to where you could get like that. I don't know what Danny Green's gonna get. But something like that. Right. And by okay, this is our lineup. I don't see any like if they just run it back. I don't they're gonna get the same thing. They've been getting. And that's if things go well. I wanna talk about Houston to. Got to Houston. The Lakers did a thing. Yes. A lot dyslexic. Pre agency is great. Yeah. Even started yet, these next couple days are going to be torture. It's gonna be a brutal weekend. That's where I feel like. This like the, the pre that's where we're going to get one of these voice, Stephen Adams going to cap space anymore. Much. You me like cap spaces. They're not looking to us right now. Like the summer. Gotcha. Thanks, steven. Adams is just complete salary dump for the team getting him like I think a semi competitive team would be interested in him. No, I agree. That's what I deal, I would be back and give him to a team for first round pick. And then use that to move froder that's the that's the the goal. So it's like if I try like bag out like three team or something. Trauma Phoenix wouldn't do it. Chicago might wish. Chicago's got some cats. They're looking at brogden, which I would like Bush Gago got now they get too many bigs already take. They talking about brogden before they drafted Koby are after because I've seen the report, I don't know when it came out. I've heard after an honestly, at still at brogden. Yeah. Bye. I don't think the walkie has much I would just bring everybody. I don't know how you don't. Zach Lowe's saying they have a number in mind four. Milwaukee has a number of mind for brogden someone goes over that they're just gonna like they have to walk away. I saw an had heard there rather. And I don't think I don't see how you can get twenty five but twenty four how you that the next year? Right. We let you let my sixth man of the year. You let my fifty forty nine agai walk over twenty million to twenty four million. And I think it was low that said it to it's like Middleton is ready to stay, but it feels like a Kim, but thing like they offer him anything less than the max. He's going to go get an offer. Right. And it's one of those. Again, the difference is not that much. If somebody told me you have a bigger role. I don't know how Janas like what's the point in the same as money right now? Stephen Adams for what? Yeah. I get why they signed Bledsoe. They couldn't go into the offseason, like giant Ryan bird, ran right? I think they just picked the wrong bird. I mean he, he made an defensing I can't say it is the wrong one, but it's like I feel like miratec is already out. And if I was going to have to be by the to keep his or Middleton Bronco, I think it's to be Lopez out. Yeah. That's what I mean, like, but even for one year, I don't like can they just pay the like, if you're not gonna pay the tax now? It might be what these might be more wide open than the west. I agree. Wylie's Philly knows gonna win Boston. The depot still not healthy. And so the sixty one win books just run it back. I've been preacher running back for every team, the ease every everyone who is in the top five lash run back do. I would say for like, listen to some today. So they think Portland, should try to trade for Blake Blake Griffin Detroit break it up. I was like, I'd go the other way like they had a good regular season plate just got hurt at the wrong time. Right. And again, I say they can make it. But if that kind nudie might get you home court. Might get you into a competitive series of you can win instead of just getting rolled by the ones the. Like if Wylie's Toronto. Ira goes to Brooklyn chemicals to Boston. Jimmy goes to Huston. Tobias suppo Barco back to the clippers, honestly, or the nuggets I want to buy go to the nets. I like that. But if all that stuff happens, I don't even know the besting is really just the books like, whatever it's the bucks are gonna have the coach of the year, the MVP coming back and all defense. It's the books. It's like. If they lose Middleton and brogden, which I think, is possible. They still honestly, coach of the year for sure. So they output, boil boy, see that's because brogden restricted. That's where it's like if they think Middleton, even might it's like we're just matching brogden whatever. Right. That's why I think they have to get I will say brogden for you. Might get him for less than the max. If you get them done early, because you're going to have to give to the max, or he's gonna go look for another offer. I don't even want him to buy. I can't even take that risk. And I did see everything I've seen report is brogden was looking for, like Macher smarts contract, which is wildly under his max. So would he with twelve year thirteen a year? Marcus. Fifty two is what I have. Is that right? Yeah. That sounds very maybe for more, but that, like if you're a Phoenix, and you miss out onto Angela or if your Chicago just wanna like fuck over division over division rival. But that have that happen fallout. Dallas Dallas should be on, right? Right. So if one of these teams just throws out like twenty two and Milwaukee was, like, fifteen sounds great broadens, like someone's offered me way, more money. I agree. They should but I don't know if they will. That's, that's what I think you have to give brogden Denver's of it's like he's he wants for fifty two game four for sixty right by just don't even like would this. Call is even right now. 'cause one we need your capital. Now, I think it was soon to his, he didn't think they should. And he's, he didn't think they should max Middleton. He's like you LeBron situation and they'd be like maxing out not great players around him and Middleton's a lot younger than anybody. Lebron had that I run brogden those blitz. Like I don't I don't think it's also Jaanus. Maybe defensive player of the year two he might be something we have seen it for sure for like, in terms of. Of Mike and Joe to off LeBron. When my cages gal anybody I don't hate it. So I don't see how and again with him eligible to get this supermax next year but to recite at all, I don't see how you come to him at all, like, airman Middleton. I know he's been here since you were here. You guys came to this once together, he wanted an extra year we're, we're we do. The second second round guy the one rookie of the year plays. Good defense great shooter. We wanna fifty he wanted eighteen you understand though, what she. This is lanes over to a man who hasn't said anything on night whispers into his ear. The gadget shakes said now, Janas flips, a table and leaves founds question. Speaking of clutch management. Lebron putting off Space Jam to until this specific summer. He could have done this in any point in time villa last, what twelve years, ninety number two summer love. I'm not as the summers off if he just called Warner Brothers, and like I want to do it now, he could have done at it could have picked up that phone point in the last twelve years for sure. Him waiting for this offseason, so that he could give Anthony Davis. Twenty three have Anthony Davis. Wave is trade kicker in exchange for that. And then pay him that trade kicker right back in the form of the Space, Jam movie, one of the more brilliant things of everything. Brian plan basketball, no more. Galactic chess? He's, he's this is transitioning like he's like you idiots Jordan. And Magic Johnson. You see how easy it is to trade for people. Right. Jordan's light bam did like my friend. I wanna play with them like Muggsy bows. But I want a funny guy card. I one around per se. I didn't do Kobe didn't do it. I do wonder there's a lot of NBA players and uncle drew do one. If that was the kyri, but also like clays and their Dame is in there. So yeah, just just plant those seeds LeBron. This is a great move. It's my as today, if the warriors offer, like a single dollar short of the max for clay, he is gonna start taking offers with the clippers and Lakers. If he goes to the clippers, that's Brad. Leaguers Klay Thompson plays on a team next year to grab he goes the Dallas. It's a rat Philly rat. When do you think it will be back like right after the all star break decades? See his was ACL, right. Like just. Unquote. So, yeah, that that's right. I mean, according to the warriors training, staff, we probably ribs and knees were actually in the wrong spots in is a day to day. Day-today. He'll be fine. But that's what I don't. I don't see how it's a. It's less than a max. That's like, I don't know Klay willing to pay you thirty eight million before one preposterous. We just can't do it. Also Bob Myers just takes Klay with them and taste the Lakers job while. Got some pretty good pre ate it. I don't know what the hell Houston's. What do you think they're doing wrong? Not trading. Chris paul. Like trying to think. Citing mistake. Well isn't necessarily cost. Call. I think trying to Ed Butler too hardened pod is a whore. Wadia. I want it so bad. It's so bad. I wanted to like, I don't see how I felt the move is. I'm whatever pick. I tried to get Jimmy, but I'm attached and I have to get off Chris Paul. I have to. Some going back to any team with space. Like do you want to first round picks? Police take him before I give away like Capella. Ops. Like now they wanna do a sign and trade of Jimmy gets five years. But they have to find a team to take like Capella in Gordon and Tucker. But if I'm feeling I'm like, give me Gordon Tucker, right? Give me Gordon Tucker and another one of those picks and we'll call it even I'll take that all day. I agree. Jimmy gets there and like they're about to give him the same five years that they gave Chris, they've learned nothing. They literally did this thing with traded all of their answer replacers for guy, and it that other teams thriving now like that. Do it again. That's why. It would be like if the nets called up the Celtics never, like you know, we'll give you four I for Aaron Baynes, now Horford. All right. We're going to push us over the top. Sports Illustrated cover here week calm, like, yeah, I don't. I don't I can understand the logic by wanting to replace Chris Pala, Jimmy Butler, that makes sense to me. But with the movies, and I get the, it's hard to get off. Chris pop. But that's why those of the pigs, I would get off and Capella off lake I think it was wind Morsch who said to like, if I'm the Knicks, the Knicks just take off through, like I'll take whatever you need. I'll take cappella Gordon and took her. The Knicks are smart will, yeah. Any team like somebody's going to strike out. To say or even before they know they're going to strike out. They could just take that. But yeah, if I'm Philly, I'm like plea, Gordon Tucker fit right in resigned to bias Gordon Tucker. And that's my team. And wha like whatever picks you get back with that, and whatever, who's your backup center, PJ Tucker, you fix that problem? Who's actually Gordon Harris? He sides right in for JJ, then honestly, depend on. You might keep JJ life. He's willing to come off the bitch by. Okay. This is more shooting than we've ever had. We have a backup center now we can put like Simmons, Gordon, Harris maybe JJ on the courts, more space than any of us have ever. Please ask for their five-year, Jimmy. Yeah. That's why like everyone all the Knicks fans around me. We're like so like relief when they had that. Perry hung up on the Chris Paul offer. The keep on the phone, just convince them to do this other better deal that benefits, you instill clears the money for them. I was like. Up for practical caps base who wanted to summarize yet. The nets have sixty six million like they've get max dreams, not who should get Stephen at the kings, the kings, of driver. Steven adams. I saw someone today talking about Al Horford to the kings, and I couldn't understand anything less than that, for Horford for the kings, I get it. But only if they have them win, like, we'll give you for one forty two we don't care. And he's just like, wow. That's as the last bag. I'm getting now. I would hate it but it's like confuse me. I think the signs would do I would do. I've heard the Mavericks to out. Don't hate that for Horford. Yeah. Our free anything, that's. Agreed pelicans. Clippers on not. Yeah. I think the king should trait, he would give them a different dynamic. They can absorb the cap space and still. Recent. They just give up like I dunno one of their one hundred players. But then we just need cheap talent here. Take franker Mason. Yeah. Slap their Astle out like. Our locker rooms down to twenty to get out of here, press. You've scam. It's times, I don't think mortgage enough credit tiled on, like do this is why you don't get enough graded, this is like this, that clown exact time, you know, the kings on a real threat yet, 'cause af sixty two million dollars cap space, nearly sixty three and no one's talking about them. I'm looking not. Listen, honestly, I would be Lisa that six point eight million dollars. Billy's of Stephen Adams straight up. Bill. Lisa shooting. He can play with under right now. And he's much jitter. Which is crazy and would be super harassing for the thunder because feeling tones out of the league last year. He was good this year. I don't know he was on a league under his own volition, like he wanted to go back home, and then the king's like, whoa, hold on. We'll give you money. He like I was thinking, they might have to send. I don't even think they would like to get out from that looks retakes. I think that might cancel it having to send a pit. So is there you twenty million? We're saving you forty two million. I agree. So how do I would be at least for Adam strata? I gotta tell you the king's like they didn't play in such a miserable location by that. This is a terrible team to go like join if you're one of the younger guys, I'm that's why they think they have to get in on these type of deals or you're just giving Stephen Adams away. Please. Right. Like, oh, that's that's how they got bombed like abet, though, re-signed him to a smaller number. Think but nobody's got another year before an extension everybody else's super cheap right now. I think they should go for brogden too. And be interesting to play off ox, one hundred like they threw it last year Levin, I'm not sure how would have worked but LeVine did have a hell of a year. So they were like we saw this vision. We wanted them to together, or we just wanted to make the bull spend money. Betty, like that this, so I'm I think I think they should go max like brogden and then just take on either. Stephen add. No. I Capella, they should take all three of those guys from Houston. Give him here. Cappella Gordon Tucker anybody. But Chris Paul. Give me here. That at all would just absorb and again because you're doing them the favor. I'm not even sure if you've had have to send Houston pick. Now, I assume you would be getting fixed if anything, and of course, again, if you're winless in four for Butler Yeats, at least one to facilitate that if they'll go signing Butler like not to just because they got you over barrel. Right. Yeah. I think it would be too. And maybe it would be like one of the pick swap, maybe it'd be like two ones and you'd have to send two two's back or something. But you do that every day one hundred percent. Like, that's what again, the bulls do auto porter like the pistons were blade. I think that's. The next phase, but like all these big deals that people know we're going to be bad, the second signed in two years. This is like, that's how you get a guy. There have been rumblings around the league. The Carlton down who's taking control of the franchise. Good. Yeah. I agree. The means good. He's like it sounds like he's trying to either establish or used the influence. He already has on some of the younger guys. It sounds like him. Russell really wanna play together and that would probably possible, if they didn't have inter Wiggins signed to that deal. I'm looking at their books. Now. It's ugly. I will say this. I don't think they get enough credit for turning. Butler and Robert Covington and covert. That's a good ass. What it is. They've got she's. One year of T. It's not bad after the Dane contract. That's what kills them. Great fifteen million. No. He's at sixteen million this year seventeen million next year twenty five twenty two mighty. I think he's only two years left and then that would be like is starting if he would have resigned with them. They ever give that contract stuff. They're all I can wait for Laker Derrick rose. 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Just reading Twitter, just in the newspaper. Jeff now not I think going back to Boston guys, it's looking like a done deal. Glow. That's the best part about his Kawai locks Lakers. He's already locked Kyrie back to the Lakers, this offseason. How they're gonna get Tristan Thompson to Joe. That's right. It's all ready done. Last year has last year is lock was the eighth pick for Kumba Walker. To be that one sounded like it was done. And then for some reason didn't happen because I think. Shaff in or something. Cleveland didn't want Sexton from one on Mars. I think that might have been true. They took sex. I think Cleveland and want Sexton, and Charlotte didn't want or maybe Starling who had a sixteen. Charlotte doesn't want someone that they I think it was after the trade fell apart was someone they didn't want my God showed it just Kip Shay. Like that. Like miles bridges. But man, oh man, they change some things. Or if they'd kept shea and traded for eight. Done any got them at all. Yeah. No coup. Why? Because even though he's meeting with the Lakers. He's meeting. I if I read this correctly as meeting with the raptors I and also last, yeah. Four meeting afford teams little. I know three. I don't know the fourth. I was what it is three teams for meetings, the raptors twice. Yeah. That makes sense that both LA James, the raptors twice. What we should just predict the top guys, and where we think they're ending up. Okay. Choir leonard. Clippers the heels wet. I'm going rafters. I can't wait. He goes Jay's. Now. He's really like Mike Conley. Good guy. You saw run those awards. Go bare has base. I can slack now. All right. So let's see why I'm going to try to keep track of this co I have a clippers. I'm going gonna do. I know what I'm gonna do. Right. I'm making a check. So Jeff de low to make us one on a Abacus. I from LeBron's going to the New York man. He's wants is really likes Jay z rock nation players all over that team of. Citibank. So you had raptors. I'm going clippers. There's been so much clipper, the clippers aren't going to strike out, like, I'm fairly confident in that I feel like honest, we'll get to. We'll get to. Maybe we will. All right. Kyrie we I think we both have Brooklyn out think there's anything. Durant? Brooklyn. Still going to Brooklyn. I'm 'cause I'm I think he's going to New York team. I really had. I just think it'd be the funniest the Nick strikeout. The next year is going to strike out. We know that, that's like they're the one we're not they're not going home to hand it either for better or worse. There's been a lot of boogie talk around these farts. Five for one fifty. Now. Where do you have Durant? Let me think on that. I do think he leaves though. Somebody's. Yeah. I wrote down Brooklyn. And I do it makes the most sense him in kyri. But I don't know is a ago you talk about so much pop up on the jazz like absolutely anything that was Durant. I don't think of jock you like the play quince night around once in December is I always want to run that play. Durant? We'll just added to the Olympic roster. No. Yeah. I mean you can do that, too. I'm here. Now. I think the I think it was win horse. No, not take away was, Mark Stein. He was like, if that happens he was like they're going to have to announce Durant. I it's like car racing the lot. But they're gonna have to now Durant. I because Durant not gonna wanna seem like he joined. Out simultaneously? Yeah. I was like, will be funny like no, no, no. You have to now to the twelve one. Void. I will go. I'm really trying to picture him in uniforms. I'm going, I'll go Katie to the net. Yeah. Greg Jimmy Butler. It sounded like Houston. It's the only reason Philly cooperates like I from Jimmy bell on my just go this completely other teams like you sure you want him used to like. If I can't get this thing I'll kill this hostage unless you give me the slightly different thing if I any other option at all we can all get airline. So i'm. Of jago Hughes. As he ended up with Houston. I agree. There's is spent so much smoke around so many guys that not all of them are, how many of them, do you think end up being true like twenty five percent out God if that. I think somewhat I wish. This like free agencies a win freezes the game to the Knicks did all their stuff in the second quarter when they traded for porzingas. It was before anything that mattered happen anything. Right is for the playoffs. We didn't know the raptors gonna win. We didn't know the wars are gonna fall apart, like physically. So it's like they had this cast phase now for nothing. And the missing Cihan was the first crumble to what what's happening now? And that's where I feel like honestly Durant plan was probably like yet, they if they Zion, I'll go there, if not. I'll just go to the nets right? Like I can't lose Kevin Durant. Who I am? Kevin. I think it might be my favorite quote by. I liked. We. Yeah. I was gonna say him him wanting to drink scholar. Joe has his bath ladders up there for me. A lot of contended. Some good quotes. That's, that's again, the only I ended in bother me that Nebi a bladder burner account. It was that Durant? Specifically had one because he was too good for that. I can see if you stunk at talking trash, like, if you're Colangelo talking about like size of your collars. Yeah. You need a burn her account Durant. Not so much. He was too good. So we did think Cambe. Sound like boss? I'll go basa. That one where would you? 'cause we both agree kyri. That's feels like the biggest lock. Would you say Kemp is to right now? Or would see a little bit lower. I'm sure we'll get. I don't think Klay leaves I feel like Claes my second lot. I don't think I don't think he's leaving fair. Yeah. I don't even that I agree with that. When I was in considering, when I toss that question out there, but I agree, clay's not going to, like you have to say that, you know, you have to, they don't give me but they. Can't can we just screw you guys? Give me a lot of money for a couple years, Klay. Just forgot that he already signed the contract days, whatever. So that, that's my second lot Kimball that this was like a fourth quarter signing. And that's why like no this ship before. The playoffs started. It has to be the finals now. Because even going as the finals, we didn't know this was going to happen now. We sure didn't we didn't know. Well, part of it was like, we all lot of people thought carriers leaving, but it was never Horford, too, right? And then I was like, well, they went on second round. Fairly went on the second round psycho. Boy Phillies, a catastrophe. That's like another raptors were really good go. No. The buck under cheese is like, oh no. The raptors were really good. Pardon me, also wonders if south exciting Kemba that causes them to make. Slightly smaller trade, but one that could potentially open up enough space to bring Horford back on, like a one to two year deal. If he's even if he only watched for years, of course, changes, things, that's what I think he, I think two years for him. I think he made as one last bag and a chance to compete. John. Dangelo. I think somebody sons. It just feels like I think I feel like I hear the same thing about him and cat is here by him Booker, like they're just friends. I wanna play together by. You've heard about him like Ben Simmons. I think I think he's just friendly guy. Swaggie disagrees. Maybe bygones by parliament. If was like feet like Minnesota Minnesota has it's like if you can wait while we do this stuff, the sun, definitely. They have the space time, we can do it like today, reading the match offer or not wonder if. I wonder if Houston could get like, really fucked over by Minnesota. If they're able to dump Wiggins before they're able to find someone to take Paul or those other three. Yeah. I agree. That's why it's. It's one half like nobody wants to do it now because nobody thinks they're striking out now. Right. So it's like you have to figure out as soon as pure last somebody like as soon as you hear like Durant to the nets as a lock. You have to go to the Knicks right now. You're not getting Durant. We'll give you pick or something. That's, that's when that those dominoes start to fall. And if I'm like, Minnesota, I'm like him in. Jay baron, Andrew Wiggins, thank of, how you only entire Kennedy in market like that whole revenue share. That's you friends like Wiggins controlled the play together package them together. I could see the next. I hope fuck you now. You know. Yeah, no candidate in basketball couldn't be stronger debt Dolan's, just like a how we get some selene Dion concerts in hair were really cooking. That drake. What if he likes shot? I do have the Angelo Minnesota. I it's I guess who would you rather play with towns of Booker towns, right towns? Yeah. Sounds like that. If they trust Minnesota yet we want this to happen make it happen. And if we both have the nets getting the nets getting Katie as well. Yeah. Just because that's the one I'm least confident right now. But it does make the most sense if that makes any sense. No, for sure. Because they're two guys that's where the Angela walks that's where. I don't know if anybody unrestricted could really get Dallas would be interesting, but not really. Do things going to be sons or timber thought the jazz wanted him but they couldn't. We have to get something. Crisis would be very interesting. For the Angela. Yeah. 'cause I think he like hold things into big got back. And I think when they get back they can play together. I agree with that. But yeah, if it's if he's friends with everybody in the league, the I think it's like, okay, I should go at towns. He's the best player bailable for beautifully with our games fit. Anyone who listens to this show knows we don't really give fuck about, like PR and stuff like that. Someone tweeted, it out like right before the award show, the other night towns was tied with the okay for six P. I feel like the real strong Jokic fan, boys. Have really talked a lot about that this year. Manasan. I feel we would, but y'all incredible. But it's like I heard towns was bad this year sums that math isn't math was eighty make all MBA. I don't even know diva play even play this year. No, he didn't. Horford. I want I wish it would be the pelicans that I have. Thanks for the clippers with kuwa-, but I don't it's another one. I don't know if people really going to wait to link up. So I'll, I'll say Dallas. Okay. He's. I am going to say the clippers because I think last time Orford was like impatiently waiting for Durant to make his move. And then Durant made his mood, it was, like, all right. Boston's fine. I guess this time I think he's like, I'm going to the clippers. I, I feel that way for Dallas. I think there's going to be. I know they'll give me this money right now. Also at heard Dow's was hot on Kimba Kimba locked. The Boston Dallas is not striking out. No, they're not striking out. So they'll leave with someone whether or not too good idea. Yes. So I, I like I wish he would go to. I'll go Dallas. That's why I mean, I think he goes to the clippers and, and that may be what makes Collazo oh they have the young town like Toronto has young talent. And then I like playing with this guy more than like Sahlin. Larry do. I'd rather Lou Lou will and Horford like some like that. With doc and Jerry West abilities to go get someone else if I'd prefer them, like I think that's how I see it playing out on, if I'm if the clippers strike out Kowa just goes back to the raptors wash shouldn't they clippers grafter Dangelo like there'd be a better situation than Debbie better situation than towns, right? Player as good boot definitely better. If you drop, I feel like he and Liu Wilcox together. It's like good Lor. There's gonna be some nights. It's like they can't be stopped. Correct. Yeah. Who else I got brogden, I'm gonna I have that's where the maps are going to get. I, I would like to allot. I think I think he stays with Milwaukee. I guess the big I've heard there are legit injury concerns. Okay, I don't I don't know if it was a this particular injury. But it was some of why he dropped in the draft. So there are like, legit. I get that. But I do think ultimately Milwaukee's gonna be it's another like burden Eoghan. We ultimately can't control middles, and we have to keep they can't control Lopez either. Like he might they might wanna keep you get crazy deal. So I, I think he stayed. So you have him saying Middleton going, I think, Middleton say too. Wow. I think they just bring the band back as they should like Middleton with Dallas would be interesting. Playing dodger. He's like, I think he wants to stay. He's like another, like almost clay type like don't give me reason to leave. I won't offer. I like we can get this done today. I don't disagree that I could see him staying for similar reasons. But his guys been traded before, a and this is first time to like, really, really make money for guy who has played G league games in his career. I think if Noah offers like play, like a dollar less than the max, he's going to cause right now. We've gone through all of the guys up to this point in the Lakers, got any of them are progress, Gatien. I don't make striking out. No. And they'd be smart to get like that'd be a great move. But honestly, I think because he got traded like this was the team that I won't say made him what he allowed him to grow into Woody true. He's going. He is almost like. Like Kimball tight like, I think he really this is clearly his first option, and I, I don't see how they could justify breaking this up. I think they'd get them both. Where do you think? Boogie goes. Book Dominica now. I could see Lakers. Honestly. Okay. I don't know where he. He just has to get money. Now, as you can't go for winning. You just gotta give money now. So. Now because I don't think the trae for Chris Paul for the bad bully fact, slow I will say. Caps. Also, New York knick, DeMarcus cousins. Yeah. That's what I have to. Which kills me for boogie. Absolutely brutal. Barely. Just a brutal sixteen months. But you know what the next you do the next should take their to back slots, go bogey just taken John laws contract. When I wouldn't call the whole lot. We have. That's what I made. That's, that's the next thing I can get behind. The worst plans might take Chris Paul from nothing. The next. We'll we've talked about a lot work Lopez does the guy who. Good sign with any of the thirty teams that wouldn't be suppressed. Reasonable amount of cap space. Slipped man him on the kings could. I think he goes to the clippers. Okay. Yeah. I think goes to end up with the clippers. Because they got enough, one of the big and another stronger. Yeah. Yeah. I got him going back to the bucks. They'll always. Yeah. Do. That's like the only guy I have them having those point which is. For them will be disastrous walk into it. Lanta. Five. Thought about Lakers else before they. Davis. I thought about Knicks for him to, but I don't think. I don't think he would want to. I thought he goes back door. Landau. Really? Yeah, I finally there. Got a taste of the playoffs even wanna game. I don't think he's ready to go chase like. A bag at the New Orleans will be really interesting for him. But I think he goes back to Orlando, I think they if he's willing to go back, they pick him over baba. And try to get something for him. I've got him. Taking some of that money noca-. I've liked it too. That feels like a very king size of move to me, not in a bad way. Either just feels like something they would do good move. I would like that. I would say the Mavs, if I didn't have them getting someone else already saying, that's where I thought about like now, gave more for, but yeah, they there must second choice. Right. Like I think that's. Backup plan, but it's their backup to I think they're third plan if they miss on Kemba at Masan, one of those other guys. Three best players, why it would be Mark Cuban will be some. That's going out of the way. Luca. Okay. Good. Scouting, roll the dice KP. Well game available. All right, man. What's what the hell? Did you see all the people after the orch being like I'm Ed every single award winner isn't from those country that taken our jobs. What do you have? I want the war should go to Armon Gilliam born in the state. Tobias. Say clippers I think he's the big big get because I think Hawaii goes back. I think that's a huge get if that's all they do from this off season is restrained essentially resigned by helluva fads IX, that's a coup. That's a coup. With Adam bags. Here's your same locker. You understand here. We didn't even it's like is there. Any bad blood is like we gave you four for one forty and he's like, Jerry was my guy. Yeah. I think to bias in broke. I think that's their summer. I think a hell of a summer. Now, if it's Tobias, I'm Brooke, I got those kind of list, wasn't next Jubran back Beverly to absolutely? Whatever happens bring Beverly I don't disagree. But I think he's going to be. One of the hottest names on the market. I'm actually gonna put I have to buy a sane in Philly. And I think they're going to Beverly to noca-. Okay. Great moon. JJ leaves gash JJ on jayjay on here. I'm. The nuggets are not far from having caps. I really think. Like Millsaps thirty million dollar is a team option, which they just decline it, they don't have any cap space, but they declined that and trade like a first round pick with Plumbly then they've got a little cap space. When they have to be coming up on that deadline declined knows that though. I, I mean even if you. Decline it regardless, honestly, even if I try to bring them back like Horford, and I know you run that risk, but. You the to lash in the one-seat is decimated. Yeah. Yeah. That's I mean, that may be more incentive for them to run it back like just stay still nobody moved. We'll see you guys next year. Yeah. That's why. I mean again, that's where hopefully. Other Tim Conley. He's a good tamper. Then, yes, he goes at right now, if he's if he gets agreement from Tobias I. Yeah. Okay. Then I'll make this happen. He has just perfect being. Rating twitter. Like how what do you mean kyri Coa Kemp is already signed with what the Celtics have rains? It doesn't open for several days. I don't know if this means whoa. Not honest that Mitch Kupchak. He's in Charlotte is why they stink. They said he would do LA. He was the only Jim in the league that assume like midnight on July. Farsi lilo. This is Mitchell Cup chat. I'm calling for Kobe Bryant already signed, by the way, I'm playing by the letter of the law, and it's like where you're gonna lose, and he's still losing. But yeah, I'll say clippers, I would love if he if you just drop him onto Denver. You just add him. Michael, porter jR and a healthy Vanderbilt. Onto denver. And they just run it back pretty good. I would like to. There's a guy out there who. Has yet to have a positive rating in his NBA career? Boiler. He's about to be his third NBA team. Coming off of his second deal, technically we talked to what, what are you getting at man? There are a lot of people think guys bad. I, I just can't has come on spit it out. Julius randle. Maybe my favorite players available. And he's like, like, we might get him for the show permanently that's available element that feels like to me. I don't know. Like it should be it should be. They should be every team. Every I get, I think, is like he clearly only went for numbers, but that was to get a contract, and even then when he went with the numbers he was really good at it. So that, that feels like you're like one year fifth, like, basically, what he did New Orleans again. I'd like I don't understand why. No one wants like he's twenty four I get that. He has flaws. I know he's not perfect player. That's why he's available but he's a little short as defense in great legs that it. That's like. Frank man. He's no threes. No day. Will you do with this year? He was three. It was no d-. What are you do with it? I think an era where you want your bag men to just like get a rebound and go, like, that's what he does exceedingly. Well. I don't think the fact that he's like as available as he is, if he's like years e plan, you strike out on eight through why. You can still get him. And that's crazy to me. Absolutely crazy. Like I'll give it maximum outta right? Thanks. I know you don't have to, to get them, but I would be very comfortable giving him for years, like no problem. Would you take a mood you give for the Celtics right now? We're going to do what you. It's tough to after Kemp assigns. Human. You're getting like, but assuming works what would what would you give Randall? I like because the market market dictates that I would like start at like nine or ten whatever the Escalade is four or five percent every year. For four years. So it's like four forty four something crazy like that. I wouldn't want him for four years. But I would definitely be I think he's just going to the Knicks again, by do numbers and try to hit free agency again. I think what his problem is. He just keeps going to like bad teams of putting up numbers this cap lifer contender ever raise the anti boogeyman, they're both losing that there are. It's this game has no winner like keep just shouldn't be gnome like he's too good of a player to be no-man's-land like this, it doesn't make I get I get that he has every like most of the players. Talk about have some sort of fly like this guy. I don't know. I don't see. I don't see why. Six men. Like when when you come in. We want you to recap you're the center of our offense like we can live with defensive faults. That's incredible. If you have any type of. Rim protection. I am trying to look for like Philly could somehow swing Tobias and him on a short term deal or something. It'd be good back with the pelicans like I know he wouldn't be great defensively, but good. Lord, whose boxing them out, right? Mavericks, will be interesting. Yeah. He steals a Dallas type of play. That's home for him. I could see Dallas. I'm trying to honestly. Clippers, I'd like him to go to the clippers by. He just takes basically those like a Jew. Michael, Green and. Minutes. Who missing like another just random one of the clippers eleven people. Yeah. He's, he's automatic buckets Wilson Chan just takes all the revival. Green in Wilson Chandler bug minutes every year. I guess this is my point every year. We see either contentious or that tier right below it. NFL playoff game playing some absolute scrub for way too many minutes this year which the words what can you do? The warriors were like decimated by injuries. You're trying to tell me like views Julius Randle, stay murdered someone for Julius Randle like I don't I'm putting on Boston just because like I can't imagine if he's available for the right price end being like yeah. Now we can't use this guy get rebounds and score off the batch. Yeah. Trauma. Really like. Clippers. I feel like there's some random. Team. Hit live team with Cavs space. Were. I could see bull. Now they have, but they also have cap space now. What the hell Ables? No, no one does. But yeah, I don't like there's. I know you want, everybody should be switchable in three Indian all this. But I we see it again. Like in the playoffs. There are like you said, there's a you just need a guy that create a shot and they're in certain circumstances. You can like had Julius. If you've got a rim protector, he might be capable. I have we ever seen him with a rim protector. That are jumping out to my like Anthony Davis. I assume they played on the court together at points of did they? I mean, even while they were they were offering my girl, I had a very good point differential early on. They weren't awful. Did share yet Asya point differential, minus one on the season? A hard time blaming him for those dog shit Lakers. Seems. I really I wish it would go to the clippers just get three pretty good guys. The next I'm going next for you, Sam Boston outlets. Yeah. I don't believe it. It's going to happen. But I I'm trying to put it into the universe like just this fucking guy like if we left this offseason as catastrophic, as spent with Romeo, Lankford, basically, like Romeo lifer, Julius Randle, Kemba Walker. I'd be in grant Williamson throughout throw p and you. Let's stick with speaking of Hugh Nerlens Noel. Lakers. Honestly, okay. Is clutch guy, just feels like a? Opt out of thunder. Take the minimum for us. You'll play you'll get instant minutes. I'll go like yeah. That feels like I won't say lot. But I, I definitely Bank. He's going the clutch nece was clutched the agency you talked him out of the Mavs. Dale was that his previous? I was gonna say, I couldn't tell that was like that was where rich fall like worked out kinks. After and that was what the agent quit. He's I can't believe you turn it down. So I think that's gonna be a we'll get you LA rebuild your value. You'll get legit minutes. Yeah. Like he was fine this, it's just like they hit Adams, they had no shooting already. They just couldn't really afford them. Give them any minutes the Lakers game. This is going to be by second stays where he is. Because I do think the thunder are gonna come up off Adams, and they're just going to try to be hyper athletic with Maryland's grant Westberg. Paul george. JJ. Other getting to max. I'll say Philly, I don't have getting Beverly, so I think he stays feeling. I'm gonna go at the Lakers. I don't feel he's going, he's imbed mode. I just don't know if they got it. I think he's, he's better bag for several years. I think this is like it's so open that he's gonna go title Dunham owed the next year bag right back. Clutch guy. Not contagious. Call won't vote. Can we? As I have one more name, but I want to end on it is there, anyone we skipped over. No. You had like rose go into the Lakers. I've no watcher desire to discuss taxes, free agency, Boston Celtic new grow. I throw up 'em Rubio. Chris paul. Those would make me vomit command. Yeah. I don't I keep like Rubio feels like a lot. The I don't feels like settling to me if I'm. No, listen. It's just like porzingas isn't going anywhere, right? Age restrict he's and the Mavs have already offered a max crise full five those knees. I guess but down from the Pacers. I think he stays. See things the Atta. Yeah. I think they got TJ worn. I think they're basically punting either he you're dead young. I think they'll keep bogdonovich. I do agree that by putting one of those two and also trading turn horse about us. I it sound like they wanna try to make that were. I don't think it's the right choice, but they're gonna start the season, at least because that's going to be there. They're not going to bring some bones off the bench anymore. He's gonna start. Are they saying that to Dr price, I don't know if you can listen, if you, you can afford to drop the price, you just get stuck with both of them. Yeah. I'm so, like I hear sign up. So I completely sold. It's the worst thing for them to try. They've tried true. But I mean they try to old evoke like I don't know. But even like when those guys are on the court. It's a great defense that just not good oven to. Yeah. It's just and I feel like if you bring it back, you. Lose the chance of the acid, assume he might get hurt or anything. But I would trade him right now. So Bona's or whichever one, you pick I would. Right. Right. Let me ask you this, because I've seen a lot of. I've seen a lot of both sides of this, that aims might be trying to treat juice, now a year before he has resigned long-term, and I've also seen Danny literally wouldn't trade him for Jimmy Butler. Paul George Borka wired. Why would he trade him now? But if Indiana calls, you, your Danny, they say, we'll give you turn for juice straight up. What do you do not keep you? I don't I don't he's not trading before he's like at the very least I'm getting cheap rookie value. If you walk after that, that was. That's the hard mistake cards version using plan, our rookie deal. That's the crime. I don't think he's trading. I would you do. Triton choose kidding. I do wonder though Fame's is either thinking about it or. Every every move they've made as fan either blue-chip guy like a Romeo Lankford or. Not Mr. positive like a breath of fresh air, kind of guy like right Williams. And if they're trying to guys like Kemba like that does feel like they're trying to get out all the, the shit stink from the room in bringing fucking airfresheners. So if they identified juices, like to smart fluorescence dumb dumbs that worries. Not as a horrible way of thinking, if they do that continue failing. I agree as percent. That's why worries me. I'll give credit. I'll go do dump shit like that. Let's right now from where we were. Not doing things like anything, he should have probably should have done some of this stuff. He's not going to jump the gun. Now. I'm buying it. I do think they should try like that will be the big. I agree Camden. If this friend, but if we leave this office Kemba about psych yet, I was, it's not a win based on the original plan. But in terms of the plant be crushed wine, like the resolve the regional plan, gut. Kinda. Yeah. The cigarette I didn't work last last, but not least. On the free agent. Lists NBA dot com. You Don this house where does he side? Gotta love inland, America. I'm thinking Detroit. Okay. All right. I could see him. Saving Detroit singlehandedly guys never left the state of Michigan onto college. Michigan won those titles with the pistons. I've got a kind of a sleeper but I've got Seattle. I think he's just going to show up and will basketball back like the other opposing teams unique all this, we've got the SuperSonics everyone's like you called now, we got the Sonics Niang tile there. I've like he'd just do. I'm gonna bring a second team to Miami markets. Not that I'm gonna bring a second thing. No Miami teams already started. Drags through Orlando. Magic franchise. Just reshuffles the entire state of Florida Disney, Disney World, substantially hotter. Now. Where do you think deandre Jordan? Go. That no idea where like if he got, like four years, seventy million wouldn't surprise me, if it's like many get one year four million wouldn't like I have no idea what he gets. I'm leaning closer to a ladder since we did have a lot of movement in a lot of, like, I, I don't think anyone's gonna strike out so bad that they're like, we're giving Andre twenty year. I do think the is still valuable even fly all the numbers said he was awful last year and him denying the chance to be bought out, just so he could chill on the next like does even anymore. No. That was the Nick, they said they, they wanted him around. Did they I thought he was just like I'm good? I don't wanna know 'cause even. Yeah, they wouldn't applied him. They wanted him. They wouldn't they got west matches. They bought him out of they didn't want him. They wanted. Yeah, that's true for hunting. Because the is one of those like friendly guys like people just Jordan. I think it's going to be like he or boogie if he resigned, one year thirteen million. Would you give to Andrea or boogie? Gogi. The address thirty that's another go knock on wood, but that he just plays games. It does. I think whoever does strike out. That's where he'll just. Go out. I don't know. I think I will have to go deandre Jordan. I wouldn't add him as like a one year. Rob Williams Tuta, like what I do that, he's got you. Okay. So we're gonna contract would you give them? At it asked me like probably like one ten. If he's fourteen or no dies. Would you do? That's the point where like I already signed Kemba. Yes. I would for windy, if it's long as it's one year, the number wouldn't concern me too much. Right. I know they're like kings, are just like done. With Willie colleagues Stein will like science not as good as de'andre, but it'll be substantially cheaper like twenty minutes out there. Like, like, is it true? I don't even know if true anymore. That's, that's I've no idea like they're dead. I have no idea what brook Lopez gets. Marriage available vary. Vailable. That is Young's available. I love that. Not son every big. Lakers were going to do we have the Lakers, getting anybody. I had them getting Middleton. I don't think. You have them getting narrow. Okay. So max. Do that might be. Still might be Chris Ball, just because I think, I think trade wise it works. The universe demands that type of balance that I don't know how work with AD nap, but it worked before, like they had a match the salary to trade for a D. So I assume. Would work now at work. I mean that'd be just tremendous. I wouldn't like if you put Chris Paul in the role like Cal was this year. I think he can do that. It's a lot of money, of course. But I think it's only way you're going to get close to let him do all that. Kyle Lowry shift this year. Maybe he could do that for the Lakers. Maybe they'll have to find out it's a strategy for share. Them going through everything to end up. Chris fallen Bello would be like book where the maybe in Reggie bullet. And Casey Nerlens, one j ARGUS bought out, he's going there for like Tyson Chandler bribe. That's. Those I like is going to do. Are they going to do this? Gonna work itself out like it always does. Kudos to Washington bridges stealing talent. For GM, right. No. We working well pretty good. Yeah. Maybe that was their problem. All on. Who whoever answers the phone just make the decision? Wagner, banga. You want these guys like. But I just. Sweep downstairs. I said, do you want the. Yes. Thank you. You know what else people will take right now? The bar. So star has released their early summer our. Why would I say they're our earliest emerge collection and there's a ton of new stuff in the store that Zion shirt you buddy? You won't find a hotter piece of Zion Williamson merchandise the entire world, literally four hundred degrees Gabby any otter fact. Get drinking with the all new barstool drink where in limited edition. Viva stool orca coolers, these things we got a couple of the office. These things are tax you put ice on there. And then you drive around the world is all of our listeners do by the time you get to your final destination that is something to be colder. 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Why wouldn't I it might just be like the different fit? Do you think like the pistons would just give them away? I, I don't know because it's like he's definitely opt at if he like win. He upset after this. He Reggie Jackson. N Lincoln Galloway that's a lot of cap space. So that's what they want. Then maybe we'll just wanna pick. We don't player. We want something features down the line, then yet, probably like a projected, I that more than likely turns into two seconds. Could be. Like I'd rather have him, Stephen Adams him. Then. Four years of Johnny. Honestly. Do you want have over Adams because his steel expires next year? It's all about. If I'm feeling those minutes with this type of center, I want the flexibility sooner. Drum drums, better. I think it's close. But I think drama has an elite skill get like eighteen boards game over the course of any like playoff series, if nothing else. So I take drumming. Take drama over cappella. Do. Yeah. Again for the one like again. Capello's. Friday is the youngest guys still getting better. But for years as rough. For years is rough. I just I much rather have like the one year drum. A heat to me like drum and go into the or on if I'm the Hornets, I'd try to get on that. The Hornets another can do stuff like that. They'll be crazy now. Exactly the type of moving someone overprice USA. He can walk after the for nothing. Here's some asset. Bridges from Michigan. Okay. Done. Was. Who they take the sheer? Doom. Boy. Those Troy wasn't it? Yeah. Who Utah budget Charlotte? Oh, no. PJ. Four PJ. Listen. They got a great a solid young core. If they'd let them play. PJ monk or Bridget, any of those guys are superstars like damn can we find out. The pistons got they got another pick with Tony snail. I'll never. I don't know when I'll realize who ended up where after this draw after some league. Even then it might be one of pulled somebody out of the game. 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I didn't think I realized is first name actually was DeJean. Oh, yeah. Now that makes the name. Cheer does it makes a whole lot more sense. As figured it was like fat thing. No, no. It's all full circle. I like that. Like that more. Now not gonna listen, but I like that more now. Yeah. I see the vision. I just don't wanna hear the vision. No, not sure how. Trying to sink. I know it just said all the free agency. Most of it. I wanna talk about everyone that godforsaken list. Why? So, you know, have any. Jodi may stay thinking goes back the champion again. I tell you, I've never had a Jodie Meeks, take not once where I do I ask this, because it is his time of the shine is mellow, Don like not in the sense that lazy washed up, but is he ever gonna play an MBA again? He felt like a Laker too. Was that was the downside of that, that feels like the last straw to me is we just we legit this need twelve bodies. And he'll, he'll get some riot. And if it's like you can't do it there, then this around. I think mellow had like a game where he scored like high thirties last year. Like last sees. Probably felt like a hundred years ago. Sure did that is so wild man thunder. Yes, this is the. Hell. Yeah. So may melodies I'll be maybe it's just me hoping he goes at a later. That's why I asked the question 'cause. He might not might just never. We may only see him in that Jim getting uncongested jots for the rest of this season mellow played one two. He played ten games. He twenty two three times. I was I was making this. No, listen. He's got no use in this league anymore. Whether while many times, I've tell you like. Now to were in blowout losses at twenty two but twenty two on that of seventeen shooting three of eight from three. Twenty four eighteen should both those blow out. But an eight point win. I guess the net he had twenty points on nine of twelve shooting hit six threes. Like. He played three games after that was done by there's no use for. His defense his defense can't life. He's the worst defensive like whatever trae young was this year, but he get you twenty two points in your twelve million can't do that. He can't. I don't think he's done done. I get the war. If the words had Julius Randle and Carmelo Anthony, I think they'd beat the raptors. Probably like a was made to see like it was like they couldn't do this. Mellows combustible. Are they in one of the situation now, like maybe the locker room was just bad? Melvin galls November. They still snot was at his fall, too. Yes. Map at. There's another. Grabbed ten boards once this season. Listen, there's no role for that guy. That's ten percent of the games. Whether's. But to be fair be fair. Also, I still for this Alan, I'm, I'm like you telling me there's no role. Not eighteen minutes right now for allies, if he's just wasn't your eighth man. Forget Iverson, Mike. Jordan, those no reason again. Did you you're on the office for that one fights game to us for those listen to us? But don't out catch every episode of the daily KFC radio. Tremendous show. That goal like what was it five hundred nine? I think so. Yeah. For five hundred dollars for five hundred million. If you agree at any point in the next twenty years, twenty five. Either or in. Yeah. In the next twenty years, you have to play Michael Jordan, one online, if you win, you get the five million dollars, if you lose you get Chernobyl cancer. And it's like. Except when do you play them 'cause twenty years from now, year old shit in like seventy whatever old Michael Jordan's still probably better than any certainly better than you today. I still do it today. I'll stick by my answer. Whatever happened. Whatever the result, where the money for my death. I wanted right now. I think it's the right answer. I get my twenty years does nothing. I'm not gonna be able to beat him in twenty. This does. Nothing. This is only hope. And if so. I think I think the only hope to waiting is that he, he gets some sort of, like horrible disease in the next ten as I say, if he what happens if he passes away dragging the money if so I got from calls at the funeral you wheel though hope up. Yeah. No listen DVR find a hitman for five hundred million dollars. You're really does that one for four hundred ninety nine that's come out on, like a rose. Yeah. I do. I just feel like now I'm getting cancer, slowly the American way. What's the okay if you wait like four for for what? To twenty eight. I'm sure there are people who think they can just like beat Michael Jordan right now. Lebron I think it'd be Jordan right now. There are NBA players could be Michael Jordan right now. There's not all of them, but a lot of them may, you regular people cannot. They just can't de Mello could be Jordan. Yes. If he starts with the ball. Jeremiah give that you wear my shoes, been uninformed. Uninformed feel broken. Far. Maybe I dunno. Melamine our care. I'm still just looking at mellows numbers. I just can't there's this. No. Need for that? And it might be a thing, res I need twenty five minutes off the bet in. Yeah. No, that's gonna happen. But to say he's not one of the AMI players that lead. Four fifty four one of the four hundred fifty best players that. Harley not now to me as proposed. Like even if he is like, number two seven he still thinks he's like third. And again, that's what that's where it's like, oh, boy, you're not worth because the two hundred eighth GATT knows he's two hundred. Anymore, pure, hassle bub. Right. Yeah. We'll take a plucky Andre Ingram every day over this. Yeah. I'll take. Cracker common ground. I want. The next time. We record people will have signed. That's the fact. I can't be nobody wanna landing, bro. Still. You'll be he had a positive winning shares this year. Randall liberal, left won't tell you about that. East coast elites are burying that story. Raleigh, Atkins, Keiser the same. Never has been elder. Never will. I Stephen to next fans are down real bad right now. They're sick. Whatever that, like they just. 'cause like their backup to their backup plan was Kemba now. Ask like a Nick season that would have been like laughed at by a lot of people is now like off the table, and they know that and they're disgusted summer so holding out some level of hope for mellow mellow. Boy. Boy, I'm coming home. Steven Steven j today was like he has no wary as in the sense that he was saying, like, Robinson wasn't that good anymore? I was like this. What do you like what's happening? Like this is an out, Knicks fans act. He's really I'll knocks even I was like administered. That was even like since you've left, there's been massive chain Knicks universe. Like they these poor people like I do feel that, like, I don't know why I tried to warn everyone in dickhead when I tell Ben Simmons to shoot with his right end. And when I tell nicb fans are not getting kyri and Durant in Zion. No, I'm just like calming you down like trying to help. That's what I'm trying to do. I'm being this massive dick that everyone likes to point at and, and call names. No, no. I'm pointing out the things that are gonna help you later in life for when they don't come to fruition for when they do get better. And some reason they sold themselves on the stream, and now they're all just crushed would supposing again. The they spend all their money at halftime. We traded our best asset. Ticket cap space to sign everybody we've got and again win horse. It's being up twenty five at halftime. We've just seen time that means nothing. It doesn't matter who your lie. If you're twenty five it means absolutely nothing. And it might mean absolutely not. So we had to maxed bought by nobody in the why. No one cared, Jew and do. Remember when the jets traded for the three pick and they were like were just happy with whatever happens. That's what this felt like, but even like less plant could even it was like they're gonna boy that they'd laugh at. Chris Middleton they'd love to get Christmas right now. Man. As they should. Very good player. No. I mean, there's still like. Next offseason, that would be respectable is done. They know that. Again. That's where it's like I don't, I don't know how RJ fits in honestly, does this, like, if you're going to get like, make it the day show as I think they should than Arnold. If I want to add any big free agents direct, but. Sure, I had somebody who plays it's exact position. We bet we traded for D'amoto Rosa. They're gonna get Wiggins pleasure. Vailable. I could see that. I. I can see Dhamar DeRosa ended up in New York. Rockets on enough. Back into rata koalas as trade form back. Yeah. What do they give up? I think like San Antonio could be like what you kinda. Oh us. And then being like you're right Canadian nice give up like OJ. Well, I would to wait v cut. We're good. We'll go with the Norman Powell. That'd be funny. I just like like I be might be profoundly cruel to monitor ozone, but it'd be objectively funny derozen Barrett that Spiderman looking at each other. So they'll be great New York. What if I just got to rose an aunt wait and see that lie off three evolutions of that Pokemon? The bronze silver, and gold trade. Be tough for next. That's why you poor William. I. I. Would it surprise? What percent would you put what do like in a week if they just nailed to people if they did get to people, you'd be surprised? Would you be like, oh my God? I can't believe surprise 'cause I might still Nell it. Away. Yeah. Yeah. I would surprise me genuinely surprise me if they if they got an all star layer level player, you'd be surprised any of. Like is bogey in all star level player. We years. That's what I mean. Like the technically is. But like I'm not gonna like I was saying this discussion. I'm someone projects to potentially be an all-star on this next contract. I could trade for what they can sign. Drug if they traded for Chris Paul Andre Drummond, like I could see them. Chris paul. Megan all star game in the east. But like I don't. See that anymore. Man guys. Fan vote alone with the Knicks find the ACA see Megamall star game he made, like three years is one of those things like we say, like winter in your once you're out, you're out gets hard to get back. I don't agree with that. But. Also play twenty two games regulars first half the regular season. He'd been all star games this twenty sixteen in those days, he this, just like he's out boogies out those days. Why the rockets do this. This. Visit yeah. Now he definitely never met all star team with the rockets. Instill. If you understand I wrong, I winning face. Whether they he was on the court or not it was clearly the right do. That's why you start as, as why more is added cash as Christ. That's what yeah. Him or whoever realizes four point would step bags. Okay. That's where you're not getting enough credit. He's like, Yep. We're gonna mortgage us off for another guy needs the ball on the head in his hands. And his Mark cheerio at best. Old old at worst. Math Moi really gets it. Boston in my city. Throw that on us? Wow. Number. From boston. Got his start there, something probably, I think even Dorchester man would not be numbers guy. Yeah. Running. Yeah. For sure that makes more sense to go to MIT. From Wisconsin, and he like that want they the analytics all that's all him. So yes, they get stars. It doesn't matter it. What cost like? You can learn your lesson man, you can buy, like, I, of course you wanna have stars. We shouldn't more you everything for them. Yeah, he worked for the Celtics. Including ticket pricing and development of analytical methods and technology Maryland's. Advance scouting opponents. Did some stuff Celtic? Get like he's, he's still he's never had a losing record and over ten years, which is insane. So he's good. But it's like. Like this feels like the you to be like, okay. The warriors out of we really thought we were second best, we just ran into them just run it back if it's really no chemistry issues like everybody's saying publicly, I get one in Jimmy, but just run it back. Do you know the story of why Babe Ruth was sold to the ankles? He was blast wanted to matter. Yeah. Well that was. That's what they say publicly, but privately, the owner of the Red Sox wanted or needed the money so that he could finance a musical called known Annette. Okay. Which I believe spread the, the famous I to J T for you. That comes from that. No, no, no. Good trade even. Yeah. Now it was bad one. If they had done that I'd have no qualms with it. But it says here in two thousand eighteen Darryl, Maury commissioned, produce a basketball team years ago called small ball. I'm wondering if, like he gave Chris Paul that money's Chris Paul could like financier this passion project. And that's why Dirac it's are just doomed. It don't matter why they for my day, I do. That's a shame James harden. We've never seen before. Yeah. I was going to just go out the waste. Boil boy even like Capella. And I said like they got him at a great number. It's still a great number. But again, that's like a boy. They're trying to get their contract immediately one year as PJ Tucker was there. Thurbers player last year. Correct. They're trying to get off, he'd mmediately like for Jimmy who's a great player. But man, oh man. They also like for Baynes smart. They knew Jimmy Butler is going to be available right? They gave up trying to give four picks to get him. Which your computer telling us that nobody else's. Sounds ain't getting Jimmy Butler because again, I think everybody can agree. He's a top twenty player twenty to twenty five. And yet they got wants to sign with the of course you make it happen. But also two separate teams. In the course of what twelve what sixteen twelve months. Yeah. You started with the Timberwolves larger so if guns up USA, Hobie as third team and under twelve calendar. Yeah, it was like two different things. Like what good? Doing fine without them. No need. They got it the extra fifth year so we can pay more money even later. Awesome. Or, or will just gut our team to put these three gas together who gonna be making like forty forty in like thirty eight million. So let me ask you this after everything we just discussed obviously trains will happen that we don't even see coming, what who do you have one in the finals next year? Fills like I'm more uncertain than I was even after like boy budget. Every beat the raptors again. Now, I also because I think was going back after if. Choir goes back definitely the front rather play. They have to. And I think it's one plus one or two plus one. But. What about you? Clippers with Al Horford. Okay. So you think they win front like you're one because it can be done. I yeah, sure. Can't especially with that guy. I they would be the most about rounded to even have probably the front runner from. Be one of like all you was like to be in contention. And they would. It's something win horse disagrees. I we see LeBron teams take time as they did. Now. It's like I don't know if they do. They took time to get to like championship winner. Not time to make the playoffs right? But even then it's like the raptors like added something added, great to good and just hit the ground running. The ward, isn't Durant. Like, of course it looked like a seamless transition. But of course LeBron Wade, and by the they made the finals the first year and in, they have roll. Right. But I don't think it would take a year. I also rafters. I guess, I'll also kind of just sit wherever coli goats would be my honor. So right now like he has the crown he's the best player in the league right now. Right. Like going into this season. Absolutely, okay. To who's the rest of the top five going for only next. Yes. Sucks. Durant's one of the. We're gonna see motivated AD for the first time in two years. And even on motivate at one last year was still putting up numbers half again. I said it was five. You said I was crazy. Ios yelling but. In LA's probably going to be. Anywhere. Any goes. He's just in that light. That's why we plays for now and. Monsters, I'd probably put in beat on there. Regular season Paul George. So I think he's a contention are Janas say on us sooner the envy. Actual MVP know hardens. That's four. Now, it's like hardened staff. I think steps going to crazy numbers this year. Lebron definitely not abroad. No Klay Thompson with one leg. Kemba. Everyone's thinking that say? Gotta have. I don't know where he'd go off, like Yoka us at there. Yolks. Definitely up there Dane. Just doing ten at this point. Put Steph sides Okla. Coli eighty. Carden janas. No. It wasn't hard. No. I m b. Hardiman there for Embiid. I think I have Yogi in there for stuff. I think I really hope they I can see both sides, a great situation either way. But. I like when somebody guys had like their team just take jumps quick. So it's like if you just winning fifty four fifty four last year like your entire contention right now. You can make a movie that, that you think. This close to being in the conference finals. And Katie hurt in the second round, right? Yeah, it was the Ryan five gets the rockets. Okay. So we'll get like Katie. The nuggets have nobody body type the guard Katie, but he didn't play the convert finals not to say that, they'd beat the nuggets are the beat the warriors, I still Golden State wind. But you might have been that close. Get to the finals anything happen. So I got. Literally, all you have to do is make the finals get beat by better team who Southie five. With the wrath. If the raptors had just made the finals this year. Katie doesn't get hurt. They get blown off the court. No raptors fans. Like that upset that likes to good season. We bid, you will go on. I think that, that worked out perfectly. But Katie got her on her championship. You've gotta get there like the nuggets made this year in to the conference finals ham, any games, lose the Golden State. They don't get swept, right? They're so lose four to go state, but they don't get swept breath. Probably like six so five or six. Yes, I okay, this is our first lake. Joe-marie hasn't been putting only team this pay our young guys this yoke. And we took one Harris. He just. We have more bullets lift, basically, we don't know what porter is we all know what was the Monte Morris, and Beesley. So. They're good. I think we should mortgage at all for Jimmy Butler. Get on the block tubby. Yeah. It'd be great. I think four four got a big move to make your. As yoke, fellows implying a defense skip. Sure, james. Portland. Gotta make the move on the negative good, regardless. I don't think Portland's good regardless Portland. Didn't vote on a weird spot where? Two years in a row, they've taken just like incredibly high. Upside young guys. But like Louis McCollum should dictate that this should be really focusing on right now. I mean that's part of like are they? The trait I had heard was I guess it's bays more now for salary like Simon's at another think two picks for like Blake Griffin. Like is how they try to go get the third player. Because you've seen like Lillard Mecom, if you get to the conference finals, I feel you can, you can say this works. And they did. So it's like okay, but elsewhere. We like Zach Collins. Is a piece I love to keep him. But again, you gotta give something to get something. Do you think either decide that Blake Griffin Tory? Yeah. You think Detroit would. That's what I I'm not. You think Portland? You think it'd be a good move for Portland? I think it's an interesting out the. Like, number one, I like bad juju, with, like a Portland big man those like a top pick in knee injuries like that'll keep away from for. It was trash bigs forever. No, it's not. Traffic's was like I don't know. Maybe. Drivers. I want that for our public is what I'm saying. By they gotta do something they do. I agree with out. But I'm the pistons on offer like I can do better. I don't wanna wouldn't. I don't think I'd trade Blake, but I feel like I can do better. He's out all MBA year. Yeah. I mean, I think if they are going to move him this'll be the summer to do it to maximize return. But if they want to build around like Sekou. Sekou. He's so young. I don't even think even if he's ready. The whole I keep like for never year. Like they, they already have trouble selling tickets. Jerry you trae. Forget, he does which wanted to do all you flip them again. I'd wait to at least Drummond ops out than undecided. Yeah. It's best to Blake. Plan with Dame, CJ man. So the Detroit trade for them. Yeah. You've been call. Sure. Yeah. Fucking kills Portland soups. I have magin narc. It's gonna be out for a while. Yeah. Lavars another one hour because he came back, it looked relatively good. So I don't know if was disa- better case like by just been flukes dip for everybody. So I've no idea what to project for him. Yeah. That would I also feels like wildly different body types effect. That one to know for sure. That's it's all different. But if I'm. If I'm Detroit, and if I give that Collins back I do that. Simon's is not again, I'm sure he is great in practice, but. It can't be the centerpiece. But I, I would take him. Yeah. If you tell me Collins. Simon check at twenty five this year. Little, Mr. little, that's right. Want him to? Like that. I want Collins either one of Simon's or little, which upright little. Pry bays more for salary or heartless, one of those guys in a pick the do that I got Collins I got a little in a future, right? I do an important. I. Okay. This is our three might not be perfect fit. But like Damon siege on a perfect fit. Like you're like you find good bet. Like these guys can all move the ball. You find good basketball players. Imagine Blake in Portland jersey though statically that looks beautiful, it, does it does. We've already seen them in red before that works. Thirty two Walton worth thirty two right? Twenty-three too. Yeah. So that's like Blake in them that black, white and red. I think like those two. In just in a McCollum. League where it's like okay buddy has to be three Indian space ability, those, like three pretty unique. It guys I would say. Yeah. I feel like this face I feel like a Blake pick and roll with either of those guys devastating like the one that's not picking rolling his spacing like. Right. All three of those guys can handle the ball to like all gonna initiate run the offense through them like it'd be it'd be interesting to watch like they were great defense. So if you take take every second you need. Like, no rush. We've got these three like they'll carry us until like us regular season. You make the playoffs easy. If those are your top three easy heavy bags I okay now with the way we stagger on. We can like defend too. Like this type of move. I think they have to try to roll the dice on trying to think who else they could trade for. The highest like Bill, just three guard line. Villanova. I hadn't thought about Blake winter her that. It could make sense for both, but I'd need Collins he'd be the breaker. I agree. And I feel like Portland would give that up. We probably should. It's okay. We see. Giving up on prospects. Kmby also can lead you to lose an asset basically nothing. So. Detroi- got little Collins, future pit flipped Drummond for something. And then Reggie Jackson expires this year. It's like okay. We're looking at something. Yeah, that's, that's like a full tear down. And that's more what I meant by build around, like Seiko nothing. I think he is like the prince I was promised. But it's like it's just tacking and see if this guy's what we thinking is one among twenty even thing. Would you. Betrayed drum into the kings for. I Giles or something. Yeah. Okay. We're in Russia, doll who's got Giles and Collins in the su- little this future pick coming in. We got see coup and they're they have their own pick, which. Yeah. Like Canard they get last year. Bruce Brown Goodyear. Carey Thomas coming back liability. Okay. These are young doing cases, a good coach. This is our team L develops out like some of these guys will hit. And the. The pistons to on snail. Right. It sounds right. So far we got some. Like future picks. Like, if I'm like, okay, this is my team. Found the best piece could for drum put him with Collins little. And Dwayne cagey way Casey coach them up and Ben Wallace GM among. Ceiling. Thon maker of there. Sure, do v from the Lakers that still Bruce Brown. Kyri Thomas, the ad and see coup ends at Collins are adding the little. Germans where it gets interesting because you get like another very solid piece for him. Like Brandon Ingram. We don't we don't want scien- taking that beating this early. Put a smaller guy. Drummond at the four. Yeah. That's that's was, I mean, you know, he wants to hoist those threes. Something. I don't know. It's, it's detours all starts, what it says. What six on Sunday or seven one six? People staying took three because nothing ever breaks. Still. Well, of course give. In some like was happens if something does break. But it's at least consequential signing of that young four years eighty five. The magic like what? Right. Sure. Patrick Beverley five years hundred fifty more than Kimball. So Yemeni donnas needs someone to start the Sonics team. Up and running. We have no idea Trump for twelve years stadium. Got it in fifteen minutes. Donnas Strassmann while. But Sunday is going to be a shit on x Ray is going to be someone will sign at like three forty five on the fourth of July. Just completely ruin everyone's day. Thai at a certain time. Time the moon landing. Yeah. On this day, thousands of native Americans were slaughtered. The declaration of independence was signed the volatile. I twenty one. To, to symbolize the one thousand two hundred twenty one eight of American swan the hands of the Whiteman. Which is why kyri little mountain Irving will be signing with the Brooklyn. Nets shot. Martha Akerson looking to. Geez. Yeah. Maybe we should just got the Angela boy. Because he turns back around one hand or one arm, rat cares. Lavar dog now not you get away from him. He's a good boy. Get get. Why did we sign this guy? Oh. Woes come to earth. Nets looking to get off Kyrie irvings contract tractive ass. Let me about. Yeah. Attractive asset for years remaining. If that's what the universe watts than so she'll be. Right. No need to other share noble jersey to the game. Are any of what is government into you? Kenny, I can still. Have I'll eat this contract. Recipes. Yes. Recipes porta. Yes. Recipes bow. Yes. Recipes nipsy. Shout out Pomo for the new add just put me was a athlete. Yeah. Poom athlete. That's how we were able to talk to him at the all side game. And that's still running those ads, which is, I think a strong, Sean move out, was to my nephew SPF. I knew nippy also was I showed him the picture, hamels fell out. I guess, Joyce TMC. For iran. Always carcass on Flint, definitely not forever. And always good. Lord. But for now police and thanking. And we'll see you guys next week with a completely just resigns every now carrying Horford back. Debbie really interesting like whatever happens gonna be really just goes back for the max, the absolute max. Okay. The war is still down to their best guys. Yeah. Raptors. But the bucks like we've got our guys back in a year of playoff shops. Now, I'd be perfectly. Everybody's running bit Phillies. Like we have more than ten games played together pretty good. And we gave the champions, the toughest series. They got Fifi only should about chemistry man. Well, I got I mean it works the way to solid said, negative gamma straight. I have no talent me. It was it was both. Trash bags galore. So we'll see you guys maybe they'll just can't silvers where else. Not good on top raptors one. Full circle back to Naismith zoned out. I would sell NBA rights. Baseball. Bottom says for one dollar some symbolic liked it. I only NBA it's like the first person who asked baseball. They chew old Yankees game. Every passes old Yankees. Well watch for some. Terrible. But you know it was nice Joe. Maggio Starman Munson. I could spend bed has raking. By the way for all the greatness of Mike. Trout, some put together his first however many games juxtapose to make mantles metals gonna beat across the board. Like close now, mantle with Bala count, dead, dude. On and off the field. Next week before we do our and a half. Mickey mascot, you one day. Yeah. Yeah. Four thousand. Clean. Copy. Don't know. Squeeze. But just down. Stand. Ninety some money. I don't know. Squeezed. The. Squeeze.

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Podcast (10/24/19)

Boomer & Gio

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Podcast (10/24/19)

"Live from the Investors Bank studio boomer assize Greg G. and Auntie boomer and Geo on the fan simulcasts across the country on CBS sports network God third this week right nothing else oh yeah that's right Joe Girardi to the Phillies is gaining more and more momentum by the day John Hayman tweets continue this New York sports death March we had from Saturday all the way to this morning Kyrie Irving looked great he did I'm just gonNa tell you right now it is mind bogglingly I can't I'm sitting here watching this and I'm like what what what I saw now sometimes when decisions happened in sports that I completely disagree with I try to I try to see the other side like what is David Fidel thinking here ed you're playing point guard for our team the yeah I look I hated and you know what it might cost you right now god that was the dumbest thing I've ever done by going to be positive morning we're going to be good right we're going to be good because nothing else bad can happen in New York sports out that it seems like that's a strong possibility we may look back on Saturday to today Saturday to Friday as like our bud coupla opportunity at the regulation an opportunity at the end of overtime didn't really get it done despite his fifty points in his excitement and everything that you saw my missing something with this one I can't thing if he's like a three or four year player it's another thing and this is his first NBA game on the road against one of the best did this happen yeah when when when did this idea like come to him and say you know this is what I'm GonNa do because I'm going to be the next read our back or team if he had figured out that Alfred Payton was the best point guard for this team to start the season as your question how do you not know that fell apart for the Houston Astros national head home up to Oh yeah both local basketball teams opening up with a losses last night to see I'm going to be the next red holzman or going to be the next Popovich I mean are you can I mean like what the hell was that yeah and what's frustrating and so the gotTa dumbest the all time things I've ever seen honestly I do have a star rookie yeah and your star rookie is really I don't know that's bad that was a bad one this to me is a bad one I mean it's game one man I jus that game want expect them to win but I didn't expect to see out get out get Kenny O. I'm serious I mean your your fiery David you know you want to put them in a small forward you wanna put them in a shooting guard I get it you're going to open the road you're gonNA open your season on the road at the Spurs and you're gonNa tell the Sir David Fisk Dale Right off the bat he likes to screw up the starting lineup by putting our Jay Baron and point guard and then ten seconds later going clueless people can be and I don't know if he was trying to get a point across again I I'm not following this thing like I feel like I would have known this last night the Knicks actually battled back there down seventeen in the mess when he when he put a real point guard right exactly so that's what's annoying about it you feel like they might add a shot to win the game I just I was stunned by a lot of people were surprised it didn't make much sense to start to gain that way it it's your your prize rookie yeah let's get them off to a good start get one for the Knicks who have no other savior and you're opening up on the road against a guy who is looked at as the best coach which teams in sports you're going to give him the ball and say you gotta handle this yeah maybe he's thinking of his hand he's more I don't know what the hell he's saying I can't make an excuse for in pay this is this is how bad things have gotten around here good morning boomer how are you stopping the Bar David fizzle get them out it's GonNa be probably another season of mostly negatives you know the fact that this team didn't fold and was up six with eight minutes to go in the fourth the third quarter was really I mean it was great it's probably some of the best basketball they've played a long time right look like a real team yes and you know why because they finally put a point guard back there yeah I mean you you think about the pressure the anxiety that goes into your first game as a pro when you're the third overall pick in action in game one that's what I thought but you know I am not a silver lining guy most of the time as you know but the fact that and he kind of settled down and everybody all of a sudden started playing and plan relaxed basketball and it looked like that they really had something I yeah he gets to handle the ball but he doesn't have to handle the ball coming up up the court making all these other decisions that he's not he's never had to make before order and then folded then but still was able to overcome that in and sort of get away NBA basketball and that was that was encouraging to me art supposedly that they have the Dennis Smith of the world's Neil Aquinas of the world's Payton's of the world I mean they still don't have an answer for that position let's play him in a position where the whole thing is positional is I I know all that you know but let's get him in a spot where in the same thing can be said for capital Cocco by the way or a bigger message here I didn't hear David talking after the game last night I don't know what his explanation is you know I guess we'll have to wait until today to find out if he doesn't get the playing time he likes if he's he gets benched because he's irresponsible shooter and stuff and he's a guy that's going to open his mouth but let's those are all the negatives with the next million guys there you're waiting to support that you start your season the way he did last night and and look it's one game and his eighty-one more games to go right for sure especially in overtime but this guy looked amazing I mean his ball handling when he feels it from beyond the arc he is just I just to me it's just mind boggling that you would do this to a rookie out the gate yeah well also I think is an indictment of these points he'd come back and had a lead late in the game I think encouraging they do against the nets who had their home opener and Kyrie's getting emotional with the microphone and then he goes out and you're someone that was wondering how Kyrie Irving was going to play or what was going to happen or would I mean this was just like this is crazy watching him in the fourth quarter take over is up fifty points in the looks great I mean I got to admit the fact that there was a couple of shots he could hit late in the game that would have sealed it for them that that is part of the story last in the sport and David just basically puts some flank steak around his neck and throws them to the lions right there's a bigger picture ah look back I am not going to get into all the weeds with all this crap but I just like it just shows me like sometimes it it's how it calls tomorrow about how pathetic they are and they're going to be another seventeen win team rj Barrett's a bust because they're right off the bat he's turning a ball of I thought we were gonNA hear all over I mean that that's exactly what the nets fail that's why he's on a different planet yeah that's why when you really sit down and watch one of his games you could see but you did have a couple of possessions before that were Kyrie Irving was missing shots where they could assaulted away in regulation of course you know in overtime conventional g our second half that's the thing they came back and to happen had it been like that you know these NBA Games you watch the last five minutes of the you have you have a prize rookie let's put them in spots where we believe we can get the best outta them put them on the ice with the best players put them put them in a position where yeah I don't know why last night had the experiment yeah right he thought his benching in week one I mean in game one didn't have the nets as a whole still have problems with good big men like Karl Anthony towns dominated the game but I mean as far as debut goes if you're putting that just in a vacuum it's unbelievable to watch he's one of those guys that's just like he's on a different planet mesmerizing to watch when he's healthy and he's playing like that now they lost the game in overtime they probably right so so you also said Jimmy Butler right yeah so Miami opens it so season last night at home writing was Jimmy Butler they couldn't have been any better I mean that yeah you got a loss to open up the season at home with a big exciting opening everybody's fired off but my God that's a pretty good team yeah are they going to be like the eighth seed in the in the West I mean you've got to remember I mean they had a bunch of talented people were looking to them Outta the stuff last night I think you really felt pressure to go out there and play like it was like game seven of the finals I he added go out there and he had to go sure everybody this is why the last couple of days that there are so many great athletes all over the league I mean they're spread out more than ever especially in the western conference yeah about the Timber Wolves everybody out on a scooter yeah right he was able to to walk but yeah I think that this was you know everything that the nets wanted it to be just how he is different than everybody else I mean there's like a handful of guys that are like that and you know and the one thing I will say is to me like watching their opening ceremonies here this is why they spent the money on me and it'd been hell could you imagine if they had Kevin Durant on the on the court with him just seeing him there they'll was you know a big deal forever outside of the win which I know is it's unbelievable Oh my God yeah and the Ad Opportunities Jared L. misses the two free throws there at the end of regulation I am you find out what's going on shore base most of the time yeah but the way that they started was like what what were you thinking when you when you think it was the score they would've said something like that right they would have said something like that well I think I think where you're going with this is this is a guy whose reputation precedes him right he's he was a problem time you had what you had with him slipping and then throwing up a shot that really didn't have a chance but how about Karl Anthony towns I mean that guy about that guy I know it's seven order man seven footer doesn't even jump when he shoots from three right just cannon threes dominated like like I thought watching the NBA over. I'm in Minnesota he's a problem Chicago shoot around said I can't make it because I got personal reason like he hated his coach Philadelphia now he's in Miami and the first game man I mean it's like they got off to such a bad start Alonzo careers throwing up three's from all over the place right that guy he's a guy to watch because I could see him unless of course it's an injury that they sustain you know on the court on the field that kind of thing then they'll be openly and they'll talk about it but I don't know what the I mean it's opening night they gave you all this money in the off season right yeah what is it yeah listen at his house trying to get into the house and then Fletcher Cox went and grabbed his shotgun to scare them off. That's pretty a personal reasons right I mean you can understand that sure I can yeah I guess so I still go to practice after that though me personally you know that wouldn't flat me for the day I go I wouldn't flattened chocs missed practice because of personal reasons yeah okay what would the personal reasons well there was a dude who used to date the girl that he's dating throwing rocks to because nobody nobody will ever got to the bottom and if there were some if there's some sort of medical reason they're not going to discuss it can't right and because of hip laws and things of that nature no I honestly if there's somebody sticking his life of course you know but you'd like the no the the reason why yeah I guess but this doesn't go back to the whole if I am an executive there on the fan of that team I really would love to know the answer but if it's something private personal we don't need to know so they said I was like eighteen to four or whatever the Hell Yeah seven to twenty I know I was thinking this this is exactly what I didn't WanNa see from this team we're going to Oh Kwan Smith thing where the bears were really really private about what was going on in his life and I kinda I kinda respected that like I respected that battle show up to practice you know you got a lot of crazy stuff going on with the eagles you're a leader over there you'll get the practice next yeah I don't know I think what you're I know what you're saying look again I if somebody's sick in your life if there's if your your wife's having a baby or whatever I understand all that other stuff but the very impressive man never large men very impressive large man that's lexicon debt that Fletcher Cox is unbelievable so that's kind of are good teams they are nobody's even talking about those teams yeah you know the trailblazers are always a good team but can't ever get their Houston's going to be a good team Lakers Russell reason I can get I can kind of wrap my head around that and you know he's missing practice you yeah okay I mean I think you should have been at practice after that person but I that swollen right there four or five in that in that they don't have Kevin Durant they you know but that doesn't mean they can't finish fourth or fifth in the conference right I mean that's really at four five teams you can make a case for it when a championship I would say well not out of each conference but I could I could say in the West as there's about ten teams thank you with Jimmy Butler when he was there as a team that could really make some noise in the West didn't happen they lost him the people the Timber Wolves is a team that's a lot of noise right now don't know what happened there so it came out like personal reasons or something I play fantasy basketball and I saw come up in the news feed now it's like okay what personal reasons are I mean like Tom There's something or someone in your life that is dealing with a significant issue yeah I get it but I mean like they just pass it off like it was no big deal could you imagine yeah but the guy had a baseball bat yes so there you gotTa Hand Gandhi more than a baseball bat to take down Fletcher Cox that is true have you ever seen Fletcher Cox that he's there as a member of the heat he's not there because of personal reaches makes you it makes you is that who knows I don't know it's hard to talk to Spec Yeah it's opening day of the NBA season you know when that's coming it's still mentally hard for me to wrap my mind around the NBA starting as early it's crazy it's been a couple of years is going on but the fact that we're at this point in October an NBA season starting it's just it's still very strange to me but it should be fun year because you think it's wide open now when you're a guy like Jimmy Butler whose reputation is what it is you want to start off on the right foot and again if it if it's a legitimate personal reason why you can't make it because there's depending on injuries and everything else would have a legitimate chance of winning the West I think you know quite a quite Leonard is going to be a bitch a Denver in Utah the best and beating them time and time again it's really impressive how did you feel watching Asdrubal Cabrera through last night I felt good for him why not I mean hey hey mets knicks get their seasons underway with losses last night about the wash wish spread out yeah and if you think about the east I mean you got Milwaukee Got Boston you got six else Philadelphia obviously was going to be the favorites your top heavy that's going to be your top heavy a game then I was about the nets losing but it was wonder how traffic on the George Washington Bridge is right now what do you think we'll find out with Karen Stewart who breaks it all down processed a couple of minutes yeah I say it's the morning show with boomer Esiason and Greg Gianotti boomer and Geo along with Jerry recco on the fan there you go get your shotgun pointed at somebody I'd be like hey listen this is just normal shotgun I would think just Fletcher Cox himself come out of the house guy gets it just like a like a boom now I couldn't believe what I saw last X. Notch not it's not true you're misread that whole thing that's all I was way more positive at the knicks loses the dodgers series Bueller and Kurt Kershaw excuse me and then you think about the coal and Burland beating them even already in the lcs they're going up against the League's best and the whole entire Major League Baseball yes game one of the NBA regular season. I probably why you know it's like this ends up being like a thing where he's missing multiple days because of personal reasons that's a big problem I I just it just came out of the National Mike Goodness deemed Lowe's they do not lose in the pitchers they are going through to win these games you think about back in that I noticed how you you're wearing a black jacket today you look like you're from Brooklyn and you know what do you mean don't do this to me no this whole like your was Lee are going to be The clippers are going to be a great team right so I'm telling you there's a lot there's there's a bunch of teams in the town surprised if they swept another series nationals away they're playing yeah I mean that that's how good they've been all right Jerry what's going on and we were brought to you by town fair tire nobody beach town CBS no more than five weeks but yeah no I did say that and that holds true I'm just saying that if you're a nets fan I think that's how you look at it and allow that all right so keenum to in their last twenty games that right there I mean at this point is as good as the Astros are as resilient as they are I mean would you be fair tire nobody just because it was new we'll start with the nets last night in Brooklyn Kyrie Irving and the introductions all good the game got out to a horrific start the next look terrible in the first half played much better in the third this clip from Iron Eagle on yes I found very fun I would say is irving the cardinals right yeah and then trying to think did they go they want five games with the with the dodge right down to runs in the she finished with twenty one irving was seventeen of thirty three in the loss here he was what happened on the final play where he fell in the process of making another move the nets fan it's not true at all I mean all I did was make one statement that if you're a nets fan that's what I think you look for not you if I made that abundantly later on no no no but you say fair now you're being fair and you're talking about a painting lost the game but you're talking about it with such like I dunno eighth-inning and I came down to runs in the eighth or ninth the wildcard game it's amazing what they've done and there were nineteen and thirty one point the season lost the ball got it back and then hits a wild throw not a while but it's a three on the left side Herbie switch he's got grant irving the final score Minnesota comes away with the win in Brooklyn Holland towel down slipped yeah that's unbelievable I was like he was defecting the ah I thought you were talking about like you wanted them to lose because you're a knick fan no no no I well because you don't want to deal with the did say that that doesn't mean the seven unbelievable with the with the crossover in the step back he was pretty good last night fifty points the problem was just the last possession you didn't get the capital one he clear on Diddley clearly after watching curry do what he did last night and how great he is and how you being gradients being what do you want me to be straight what I think that the net should be striving for this year after making the playoffs in at eight and Kyrie irving is you know foresee that you become a net fan got on deal that's right manage that load and then get through the NBA. Finally one day of Joe Girardi goes to the Phillies we're going to be load managing around here yeah well kind of follow that Kawhi Leonard Track last year where they smartly rested him at specific spots of the seasons management all load management I am addressing the crowd early after he was introduced before the opening tips is really enjoyed the debut and realizing he's an hit me beforehand forty game you know back to the this was the playwright here that was the one they all know Oh yes you gotta play one on one basketball yeah that that that was just the buzzer sounds Minnesota win as crews Carino the call here on news talk you suck you suck you suck all right one twenty seven one twenty and then we'll have Bryan Rest Kona and Tommy Lou Gower back there and that's we're going to all of us have to take a mental health day that happens but if it's a football Friday we gotta reassess this I wanna get too emotional or anything like that but you know just a Jersey kid playing for his home team manager to see you can just see the athleticism oh yeah I mean nobody it is awesome he's just really good I don't think he lost the ball now I think he was his reaction to the crossover that he well he gave the ball we have we've said this now a couple of times tomorrow football Friday which makes it a little bit harder questions we do like our football Friday's all right so I'm hoping that it gets announced Forbes night with the twenty and the Spurs beating the next one twenty to one eleven Mike Breen on MSG lamarcus Aldridge had twenty two points John Murray eighteen and just lost my footing lost my balance and somehow I got it back and just got to get my elbow pointing at the Rim and make the shot next time now I know boomer you mentioned the nets lose so do the knicks they played well in the second half they just came up short by nine in San Antonio sounds funny but that's they did have a one point lead going to the fourth quarter would happen later today what are we doing he's still taking a mental health day we call Richard near with our picks maybe we'll do that just to get our picks out there we'll call Richard near late in the show and get our picture you know it's probably like Monday after our show so we can take off Tuesday because we have said that when Joe Girardi is named by the Phillies as as manager we are going to okay with that and I'll have to think about that okay all right so important day those football Friday's right they blow football Fridays and Mondays he didn't want it the the mets didn't treat him the way he believed he wanted to be treated ended up going to the nationals partly because of that right and now could win a championship it's amazing the national sweep through thanks this kid man one game sounds so good he sounds like he's already you know twenty five years old contact from him and he just fell anthony towns seven threes he had thirty six points fourteen rebounds Andrew Wiggins had to killer hoops down the stretch give you a solid answer on that what he was thinking outside of what I just heard he's going to be open minded he's GonNa throw everybody in the pile and then whoever fights their way out of the pie eight and six assists as for RJ Barrett twenty one points in his official debut he was nine of thirteen I mean he did everything you wanted a rookie to do just Atkinson Rhythm and get them filling his teammates understanding his teammates and you know a small season here was Barrett is reaction to his official debut sober WanNa stay healthy for eighty two which which is like that he's not going to which is a big deal right I mean it was he was shot out of a cannon list everybody thinks assists Donovan Mitchell thirty two points twelve rebounds jazz beat the Thunder One hundred ninety five the nuggets by the Blazers one eight one hundred Nicola Yokich with twenty points and thirteen mouthing back and forth with some of the mavs sixers beat the Celtics one zero seven ninety-three he clobbered the grizzlies one twenty-one jam rant and his debut at fourteen their Hornets and he's got his crap together and everything else and they tell him he's GonNa play point guard before the game so yeah right didn't happen the whole game they made the adjustment he had a nice game we'll see that was the point guard which shouldn't be RJ Barrett because it's not something really does or should be doing at this stage of his NBA career elsewhere Emmanuel Moody had twelve points and Bulls won twenty six one twenty five over under time amount of threes made by Charlotte I'll set it at twenty four and a Half Iskoe Grid Forbes can twenty points for four and a five point San Antonio lead and that cap debris the next day off for a mental health day or management day and all of us and it'll be Richard it all of us not Jerry that's youtube right rich Richard Near and Chris Lopresti will be all in the game in the hands of Kyri Irving and his next Byu crossed over he fell down gets at the top of the key Joplin's no good me down on a whole `nother plan out of the question is he's not gonna be able to play eighty one more games like that oh no but even said after the game like this is just the journey the kill shot tonight was that was mavs Radio Mavericks beat the Wizards one eight one hundred Porzingas at twenty three points thirty four for Luca Danni Eh born in the Washington nationals win another World Series Game Holloway late close game late in the game and then all of a sudden everything it sure was porzingas almost all the way back still getting getting I'm not where I want to be yet but I'm getting there and and and I have to Zouqi swayed a long drive left field he's got one now Kurt Suzuki gives the nationals the lead that would above the Crawford boxes they needed three more wins to become world series champions while they got one out of the way tied tie game in the seventh inning just inver lender still on the mound facing the immortal Kurtz okay but I'm not sure Pistons beat the Pacers One nineteen to one ten all right game two of the world series the nationals had a one game lead by Al Dukes we have to be content with the game I've had and game we had we won the game at the end what's most important and most important they won the game Bradley Beal Gotti Jackson in this game as he was Nats radio there that was part of a six run seventh inning it snapped to to tie nets wind up beating the Astros twelve to three here was hits when the Yankees had those opportunities they do it Zach same series right now and the Astros really aren't scorned much either like they weren't in the Yankee series that so they're up to on hand them the balls the point guard to start the game well here's David fizzed ill looking for a point guard essentially like I said I'm a MO- keep over mind with this and I five with with RJ Barrett. Yeah it's like I'm just trying to think of the thought process going into it yeah I can't I Zouqi what a moment for him I can't remember last time Barrett a ball up like that felt great for like months ago so Saudi was months ago months ago never fights their way out of that you know out of the pile who's going to get the not in terms of Dennis Smith junior yeah just out of sync right now you just gotta get him back Suzuki's first career postseason abroad and the nationals the Astros three two two here in the seventh inning and just to the left of the foot ruckers banner ad it's right uh I'll say over I'll say under under twenty three threes yeah it's a lot a lot a franchise record I think oh I NBA game just to just even playing the game so yeah we lost you know since one thousand eighty two mets actually if I think about it man you sit here and you watch your show like man and the Yankees Lucy Astros well the nationals getting the he gets into the paint dries off Balance Shot Mrs Ball tipped out rose by rose in the Forbes Corner Threes Bounds and your boy KP is back he's Smith got it back on the drive with a sledgehammer that might just be Vikings Sake on the redskins Westwood One's coverage on the fan at eight this is interesting so adam gays stood before the media couple of things here and he's was to none games three four and five in DC starting tomorrow night again at two Oh series lead for Washington who are just on a some tear eighteen into in our last twenty Thursday eighty six thousand dollars I personally don't see how the jets win this and I don't even know why you'd want to get involved in something like this and the reason why is this looks bad for free agency I would you come to the jets under the under the situation at there's gotTa be more to the story got as I understand it to second Brian's both opinion said yes surgeries required now would those doctors sit there and say you could themselves without even realizing it so they're not very good they can't they can't spread their arms so when you go to pass block and you have to you know put your arm out there shoulders killing you and it's getting pulled back in the whole thing so I have never heard of anything like this now the players are allowed to get a second opinion he went all to the team for missing practice which in by the way if he ends up missing this game in the jet still have this stance it's going to be something like five hundred hard one now I talked to a couple of doctors yesterday about the in this particular injury he could play with a harness but it is it's going to bother him he's got a torn labor out in the media right now to me I don't think the jets have a leg to stand on here I mike why would you even mess with this what is so they find him conduct him and he's an offensive lineman and that thing is getting hit all the time every plan and you know sometimes they become unaffected players become ineffective because they're protecting and the doctors that I've spoken to and no doctor that that or the doctors that I spoke to his ever seen anything like this why would they the whole deal with colosio similar who sat here Nice Guy Right yeah it seemed great he's battling with the organization he's having surgery Friday against the teams wishes in what he does now he's got Sam Darnold that's got a toenail take off that's gotta be painful so he's doing individual drills jets are in Jacksonville this weekend we're not being told because the jets are digging in for a reason and I'm not I don't know what that reason is I haven't heard their side of the story I can only go by with what I've heard a torn labrum in his shoulder so a couple there long but I had to leave him because he says some things here this is courtesy of s in why what is the difference of opinion with it and then surgeries required or surgery required right now and you shouldn't play with it well it seems like the jets doctors are saying play through until the end of the deal with it I think he's because he said right in a button boom and you feel like you feel great and now this next clip is thirty seconds but it has to be very interesting here the back and forth that report came in our and both doctors the other second opinions said that he needs surgery but I don't understand his position than what is their position saying that you know I've been playing with it and it's just not good and I don't feel like I'm playing well I can't understand why the the way this thing is being played into anything for you anymore then you're at a point where it's like how do I do don't take it in like like where's the limelight how much player played through pay like what is Oh you got a tornado shot that's not a big deal in the NFL is it no it's pretty carbon like a Lotta guys played through injuries and that's play through injury but once it stops working with the shoulder was essentially the question position is that I can play this why do they feel that way to get more of an expert because I started the season playing let's go down toward all his pain medicine correct chance high inflammatory yes and then all right players and I've used it I've used it about an hour and a half before the game take a shower are they dig in because they think that he's not that hurt and he's trying to not play and get paid while he is at Mr is yeah is have confirmed the Labor them either that doesn't make any sense to me position at the jets are saying that you know you should be playing at they're finding conduct detrimental I don't other opinions he needs surgery and they're saying no why it hasn't been great right he hasn't played well because he's been hurt I don't know what they say really that's the point so they're going to get hammered in the media over something like this if they don't put out there reason why I don't know what else to tell you that's on the other side of the story but how can there be another side of the story when it's seems to be clear cut guy feels that you can't play he's hurt he's got injured his their status so they think that nothing should have changed Andris shouldn't have gotten any worse than saying that keep picking on a brace it up the limit is there a limit John David my health like what we do from this point yeah this is a really do they would at least check in on him and maybe make him an offer I just wonder if the Yankees look at Garrett and there's no way in the world I I just don't see any way in the world that an arbitrator would sit down and listen to this argument and not side with the player. NHL Tonight Rangers host the sabers islanders take on the coyotes all right thank you Jerod it's the morning show with boomer Esiason and Gregg Giannotti boomer in CEO Today is going to be that end-of-season press conference at the Yankees AB with Brian Cashman and Aaron Boone. They say a bunch of stuff that doesn't make you feel better about them losing in the playoffs there was a report yesterday that the Yankees are GonNa Pursue Garrett Cole I don't know if that's even the constitutes a report I mean I think we all kind of hole as the we will go to the ends of the Earth to land him player after this season I know it wasn't the pitching detailed how much the the pitching sort of was on the top players in free agency that we want because of money this year we can't do it the windows closing things are different now we've lost now you know all these years in a row and are coming up short against these these teams that are better than us you know if it will Brian Cashman Hal Steinbrenner they go toe to toe with Artie Marino out there with the angels and say we will give him whatever it takes to get here and I'm not so sure because that has not been them over the the last problem with the Yankees during this loss but it will they look at this off season as you know we cannot lose out it was like with Patrick Corbin last year where we really liked the player but we like them to a certain point that's going to be the most interesting part of this off season for the Yankees and a couple of years so what type of fighter they in for do they want this to be a knock down drag out we're going to do anything to get Garrett Cole is they're going to be one of those are out there with the angels right now simply because Tyler skaggs death and how that whole thing transpired with the opioids and all that other stuff so I would think backup their bags of the angels signed Garrett Cole You know what I'm saying like Oh they don't but I'm just saying it just it just now gives the angel fan reason to go by you know season assembly situation with the jets the jets are I guess claiming that he arrived with the injury that the injury was pre exist as opposed to the the the ENKE's I think that's got to be a part of this I think Marino's trying to I would think try to be as would be Garret Kohl's childhood team that he wants to go to or where he grew up where he wants to go to remember is at already Marino's under enormous pressure go to the mat to get a home town kid to come back and pitch for them yeah and and how much more is that worth to the angel that's that's what's GonNa fly here this off season well I mean it'll be interesting the the press conference would be interesting I'm sure Bryan we'll say that you know look we're going to be so saying he did not hurt himself or didn't feel injury or pain until August fifth and he had played with it up into all right we'll pay him we'll pay him a lot of money but you know going that extra mile is just not going to happen and that that's been their philosophy last couple of seasons right I'm just not so sure point where he felt like he couldn't play with it anymore now he's also saying that the jets have filed all the workmen's comp papers and all that other stuff and that seem things right right yeah so the moment you get him here the moment he becomes a part of your organization then you have to deal with all the things that come along with particular player and assembly as seem to be working towards a resolution here but as I think as we speak here this morning it's it's not done yet yeah I I just painkillers opioids and things of that nature so now so that's now starting to be brought into the conversation yeah and that's what he said we just heard the I did everything going on out there yeah I can understand that I just don't think that the Yankees can if they're gonNA target somebody and say we want somebody I think that they have to sort of get away from this does active as he possibly can to rebuild the brand because he's got he's got a rebuild here you know get the DA involved in trying to figure out yeah but does the DA decided like so much so that they're finding him and he's basically saying look one as far as I can with painkillers so now now we're getting into the discussion about painkillers players using this thing green exist edition yeah so if it were a pre existing condition they should have never made the trade in the first place that's the way I look this was a mechanic it is it's it's a diversion and changes the whole dynamic around the team right now yeah nobody will be talking about the negative they'll be excited about the season trout we got Cole I mean we I mean I'm I'm all for guys looking for legal alternative ways to numb their pain other than the addictive opioids involved and everybody we're going to look at things we're GonNA evaluate things and he'll say all those kinds of words so you're not gonNA gain no definitive not no you never well here's here's the other thing about the collection I don't know how the jets could have a hardline stance even with what you told me about him coming in with the injury and everything else could take hard line saying to this guy in that like real seventies music we'd smoke in like he the way he was rattling off every one of those things like he felt like he was looking marijuana joint we spliff as she's brick bomb Richard near as i WanNa talk about the assembly thing and it's it's unbelievable that the jets are the only team I've ever heard of I mean I do think there is the Nada de the addictive properties of painkillers is a is a problem that is that is for sure of course probably yeah tour is in the doll family the dolls yes non steroidal anti inflammatory drug to treat pain yes no no no I know doll I didn't make it up it's a narcotic that treats moderate to severe pain Trammell right tragedy Oh yeah I think we had to give trauma doll to the five pound Yorkie after his hip replacement Surg- okay yeah so how some way I mean it's it's frustrating as a fan and I don't know it just seems like the jets can never get it right doc sources said the team suspicious of the timing because it claims that assembly didn't start complaining until after he was on the verge of losing so this is going to be like this is the NFL as argument as to why guy should be able to smoke dope. Yeah you know because they don't want painkillers yeah awed you just made that up I bet you there is a travel wanna bet I bet you there's a trammel just googling Bet Betcha I've heard this all before that are that are arguing with a guy with a major injury when it comes to get surgery is there any other case you guys have heard about this you know in in past recent with a bad shoulder yeah I mean I don't mind now losing my job because I can't play the way that I wanna play because I have a bad shoulder I in that doesn't here's a portion of rich that means article on ESPN assembly said the team wants me to keep taking tore it all and brace it up it traded I think there was also another player just recently I forget who it was that was dealing with concussion symptoms who who didn't WanNa go back on the field I'm I'm not sure who that I forget I mean there's there's no doubt about that and I don't blame any of you have to take if you take a painkiller you have to do it under a doctor's supervision and you have to do it the right way you can use it it's obvious to everyone that you're not the same player that you are so I can't understand where he's coming from I mean I'd be like I'm losing my job I I'm out there trying to play at this morning the jets have not authorized surgery yet it's I know it's unbelievable to me you know this team they always seem to get it wrong his starting job after week three well maybe he was on the verge of losing his starting job because his shoulder wasn't right right couldn't play couldn't play like him because he was gonNA play through it yeah he's doing it right still because he wants his side of the story out there on the heels of a terrible loss like this to it does he's doing that because he's hurt and he also said I don't I don't know if you believe them but he said I don't care about the money at this point and care about my health well I mean it's always about the money you know that Washington nationals win big hole away late in the Houston Astros do not look like the same team that we saw in the Al cs where second opinion of a doctor who he actually put out on instagram showing that that doctor said he needs surgery right now and he's willing to do it looks like once again they are inept franchise that their fans have come to expect right and that's not good it's not a good thing it's the morning show with boomer Esiason and Greg history will have a Trent Williams with the redskins doesn't trust his own doctors there and wash his own doctors trust the team doctors with the redskins right there's that he won't play because of it right also I'm I'm on the right while he's talking about toys but I didn't make it up in my mind I knew there was a trauma Dolan was painkiller I was there seem family that timeline doesn't work for me like okay so now collect Yosemite is going to be mad about losing starting jobs who's just GonNa go had surgery on his shoulder for the hell of it to show them no you know fall for luxury sales event at Katina infinity started with the nets last hour knicks this hour New York in San Antonio really competitive game matter of fact you know you know I I will say that I I've actually had to play through injuries and it's no fun and you're you actually the analogy boomer and Geo we've got Jerry recco back to tell you about everything happened in the NBA last night of course world series game to the no and I think he's trying to garner public sympathy yeah was going on instagram post and letters doctors and everything doesn't have to do that I mean but yes I mean there were issues like this there's no question about it it's just that this happens to be a big one because he's going to go have surgery on Friday and as of right now is wasted Marcus Aldridge a twenty two year heard in that clip Julius randle getting a little shaken up so what happened David Fidel I think he's okay he started crapping up and game 'cause I didn't watch the march the nets as much as I could watching the highlights of the game I didn't really hear the first name so I went this morning and looked the when he was introduced really well I I would think so I would think that you probably spent some time at Woodstock Assu sleepy hollow Chris what's happening hey what's going on said that he was willing to take these finds it wasn't even complaining about the fines he was like I really just wanted to get the surgery get you know get right yeah well he could say plenty of money it's sad well biggs could say that the Knicks at one point lead into the fourth and that's when the spurs took over Murray run out ever the gesture and have to worry about this too and forward seven winnable games coming up let's go but because they got blown out on national TV in the quarterback I'm seeing ghosts now on top of this Oakley behind the scenes as agents could be fighting for every single dollar though he wants some public sympathy here I you know he doesn't really need it I mean he if he needs surgery and and there's footer for three part of a one twenty one eleven win for Senate Thailand J. for him that Guy I've heard it as John Day Deonte the last caller saying about this is another jets thing now they had beaten the Patriots and this was going on it probably wouldn't even be half the story that it is Kinda interesting but absolutely everything perfectly at least it seemed like it Jerry Good morning what's happening over there what are you got morning grocery Katina auto group hurry in for great offers during the reigns joints and it was a thirty seven twenty-seven difference in that fourth quarter as San Antonio pulls off the win the Knicks take on the Nets Tomorrow Night Brooklyn was the Jerry played last hour about what am I supposed to do now I took the trauma doll much to get hooked on Vicodin after this tore dog tramples what is trample on louis shaken up randall something we got the preachers rebound out of course Mike Breen Clyde Frazier on Msg John Murray at twenty four had the ball final seconds of the Ot when he go for fifty two or fifty three one the ball and the game in the hands of Kyrie Irving and his next view it's riggins fraud court now picked up by Lebron wiggins around a screen in terms of his rookie RJ Barrett Jay's not silence Rj Barrett twenty one points on nine of thirteen shooting here was I thought he really competed he only really one I the NBA draft and everything I heard was the John Day yeah so I have no idea you tell me Murray scored let's go there job wasn't done you know so I fit he just goes into just another two numbers that they hold value but not really when you don't get a win our nation we gotta figure out our rotations Credit to the timber wolves you know obviously towns was huge histories were huge a lot of more contested bad breakdown where he helped off the corner and gave over three but overall I thought he you know he was plan both ends of the floor at a high level Barrett in his official debut twenty one points I was waiting for the defender to be there almost lost the basketball away from him yeah if it if it was then he certainly didn't admit it because it's probably something he's right here's Kenny Atkinson and we talked earlier how the first quarter was a mess ten players had played I think within the first ten minutes he says it took him while to find the right home taking on the timber wolves opening up their season this game goes to overtime or Andrew Wiggins was a big pain in the neck it is soda with the ball one point Lee approaching a minute to go to overtime I have not heard it as the Auntie but you tell me no actually no shock them wrong so I could have this wrong do I even went it's funny because watching highlights Ores Yup one twenty seven twenty six the final has fifty point night just not enough irving says yeah it was nice scoring fifty but we lost you know obviously he's such a big piece to what we're doing and you know for that stretch I really hurt us that's part of that big run that San Antonio hatters physed it what the calls they hate you I hate you do you buy that was the St Paul Simonon sly and move I do not know yeah I didn't either because it looked like chance but yeah they struggled a bit in the fourth especially if we get gotta keep putting on a because just like we're not going to quit then they're not going to quit either bring Forbes had twenty tremendous and you also had dinwiddie and L- avert I believe had four or five turnovers apiece they were really sloppy with the bell avert finished with twenty but they were there are so many players in this league young players I have never heard of that made impacts last night and like this kid I probably should know is PJ Washington no idea who's crossover he fell down gets back to the top of the good and the buzzer sounds and Minnesota Wins Chris Korean you've I was another example of that yeah and Justice winslow had twenty seven points heat beat the Grizzlies one twenty to one a one and I do not see I've been looking I see nothing as up six runs in the seventh nats radio with the call they're on their way to a twelve three blowout win over the Astros was a tight game a two game into the seven that was curtis mentioned he says this is all a learning process for him day one this along gay GonNa fight off forty eight minutes and it was tough when he said how did she thirty two jazz take down the thunder one hundred ninety five the mavericks kristaps Porzingis beat the wizards one zero eight one hundred Luca Donncha had thirty four porzingas twenty three Zouqi snapping that with a solo home run Adam Eaton homered in the eighth Michael Taylor ended a home run in the night Stephen Strasburg six innings for the win Justin verlander the loss and put it this way on and what if someone told you skip that before the series started you'd go take the first two games in Houston I wish a betting man but I'm not sixers beat the Celtics one zero seven ninety three Joel embiid fifteen and thirteen and the one it's beat the Bulls won twenty six to one twenty five with twenty three threes PJ washing Just credit to them thirty six points fourteen rebounds he did it seven threes Robert Covington had fifteen points nine boards out of eleven attempts yeah I don't really believe in that stuff what I believe in is is hard work being consistent of what we do and sticking to our process now the big favourite to even this thing up unfortunately for them no one told the nets that swing a line drive base hits Centerfield Turner Will Score Soda The planet he will y Jimmy Butler I know years we're talking about it before no reasons or what those personal reasons are why he wasn't there aren't world series game to any Houston the Astros where right game four and five in Washington to if there is even if game five is even necessary Thursday night football vikings take on the redskins you're boy kirk cousins taken on his former team Dr Dribble Cabrera drives home to the nationals have scored four of the top of the seventh they lead Houston six to here at minute maid park and they weren't done basically says what the jet doctor says you can continue to play and you can get surgery after the season any went to go see in step in the lane at his photo is good for wiggins was back to back both for Andrew Akins who had twenty one points but Kyrie Irving had fifty and had twenty seven I'll tell you one thing to watching a lot of NBA TV last night going back and forth and they were gone two clips live of different games throws will stick to their processes well manager Aj hinch no panic police or really good team we have gained three and a couple of days it will be and that'll be in Washington tomorrow and lobby with the basketball last night I elsewhere you're the nuggets beat the Blazers one eight one hundred and he call Yokich at Twenty Point Suns over the Kings Easy Twenty four ninety five Donovan Mitchell Surgery Friday for the labrum tear in shoulder with or without the teams authorisation here was assembly courtesy of s and Weiss's right now the situation just stinks keep it in house that's what he's saying right well and Clutch Assembly is the one that's taking this thing public and I guess the reason he's taking public because he's getting find out work right if they don't work think about that if he had done that on purpose and that would've been something but it didn't it didn't do it on purpose and it worked you tell everybody you did a third doctor let's get the fourth docker so so so you had two doctors that say you don't need surgery until after the season then you have third doctors ah to the jets well I haven't seen any comments from the jets at all when he spoke he hadn't given her gotten a response from imagine so well other stuff from the jets here was gays yes Monday was bad against the Patriots I get that game on our side it's embarrassing is you do need surgery so he's going with what he wanted to hear I think because he's in pain and he's not playing up to his capability that that's the way I would that's I'd be lying if I said that it wasn't frustrating to be in this position considering what I've been able to accomplish in this league and the player that I have to be done with something like this arm is he's slightly food but it's outside of my control so I'm trying to be positive about it as you guys actually just read a few more here is coming off this game darnold and all the stuff that's going on earning money right now it's easy when you win is hard when you lose when you're one the we do we discount the player of the week performance against the Dallas cowboys I don't he was spectacular. Yeah really was we don't but even you yourself came in it now you also had the whole situation would Sam Darnold as part of this thirty-three nothing game he was awful and the comments about seeing ghosts so it's a minor injury designation so that when he comes off I are he goes on waivers and he's done with New England no matter what sounds like Westwood One's coverage on his former team to and nobody cares about him true jets offensive Lineman Colucci assembly said he'd plans has plans is charged with four runs over six plus Dave Martinez says no surprise Suzuki came up big in that spot she's okay because he gives us good at best all year they got a good pitch to hit I think about it but I I just wonder if there's anything else going on there with you very slippery slope though yeah telling a guy how much pain should be dealing with and how to deal with it thinks about this so clutches actually seen three different doctors right he's had a third opinion so he gets a second opinion the second opinion right and then also implying that he doesn't really WANNA play football if they're saying you can play through this and you're choosing not to you're saying that you don't WanNa play football that's other big actors you know it's on Tuesday and had it not believe what I was seeing it was that bad I mean not normal you can't wipe out a performance like that he came damn close to doing that he was that bad it I've never heard of that before I thought he was still there I whatever so it looks like I think what they they're putting him on I r there's two different ours is the one where you could bring a guy you know how that whole thing has gone. The jets are Jacksonville this weekend so quarterback Dj Hayden of the Jaguars was asked about those comments and what he thinks of them I mean if game way too fast frenetically hopefully he'll come down this week we'll see The Patriots put Josh Gordon with a knee injury explain this because I don't understand this you know this many weeks it's not easy no no he couldn't say one in five he could say anything the jets on the third opinion yesterday I remember that they asked that case about whether or not you know how's it GonNa Hassle look man we'd rather just I answering questions as to why he should be the head coach of the jets right now on the one in a position to do this and a lot of experienced on us I mean I don't have to sell my job I back from then there's the other one we put on it and you say goodbye which is what they're doing sounds like it sounds I I just wonder I hope that there wasn't any others what is that Sam Darnold two weeks ago was the AFC player of the week us and then last week he had a really good game yes so I mean it was for eighty six yards the point being and and the interceptions off the back foot and then the whole you know I'm seeing ghost out there that kind of thing planning seeing goes you see when you come to us a couple of weeks get everyone funny pretty stuff going on in in Josh Gordon's life away from the field that also precipitated some of this stuff now I also know let's see if I can find it real quick if not what next hour so Tom Brady was I think this is his radio show on W. E. G. I people are starting to I I guess they're likening this to him very seriously that's going to be disrespectful to not disrespect the mask don't I would say the same thing right and I wasn't going to but we do have to and he's do not make fun of the mask do not make fun of that mask and I wasn't planning on making fun of it you know because he did Ramos Stereo is a Lucia Lebron Ramos Stereo wears the Lucia Lebron mask all the time right like people don't see his face that's a very very media Wednesday he plans to play Sunday against the cardinals coming back from the Thumb Surgery and you've got the rangers and sabers tonight and the islanders taking on the coyotes all right thank you jerry we'd like to put on a couple of wwe guys from time to time audience seems to really enjoyed ash and there's a big match coming it's the morning show with boomer Esiason and Gregg Giannotti boomer and Geo so at nine o'clock we have to special guests joining us in Studio al-sagha for this yeah dig it so he goes to meet ties very seriously because I had an idea I'll tell you what ideas and second but tad says to me very seriously we against one another but came Alaska's he's bringing a wrestling legend with him because he's got a wrestling legend to his mentor him Ray Mysterious Lucia Lebron masks here in our office on our taste doing those masks and I say sign of respect not they're also a part of a consortium where they use their names and sell their real estate because supposedly it's they're realistic you know that kind of thing oh a little bit of a racket there hey we got caned Velazquez got Ramos Stereo coming in good job on your part yes very smart I mean looking you know looking for stuff and between two guys who fought in the UFC octagon in Cain Velasquez and Brock leseur now both those guys are going to wrestle the wd first thing so when we have these wrestlers man I do what I think is my due diligence I talked to the wrestling people around here is arrested in around here like I text with Evan Roberts and I go up the tasks so tasr of CBS sports radio fame is getting ready for his show I golfed Greg Hill show up there as the morning show W. E. I they also reported I believe that Tom Brady is buying a house in Connecticut. Okay Yeah so you have an apartment hasn't probably don't apparently I don't know why I went into Mike that was very straights okay because Tasr was so serious with me just that so he says I know you're a ball buster that doesn't normally happen saying oh my gosh I think I think you said if you said to him do you mind if we wear the masks while you wear the masks and if he's to me I know Anthony and Belleville did he know but sent them direct from Amazon he he did not you know that I'm cool with that okay but I'm not doing it without getting the OK I all right fine so when they come one of those things aren't GonNa fit my head back oh Jesus scary all right so I think we look good in the masks and I think it doesn't fit US WANNA tie for me although I think that the the place in Boston is for sale is for forty million now okay you remind me saints quarterback drew brees telling them anyway well I've got a big ASS head to like we can get it on there's no problem here do you WanNa try now try it now before they get here we'll put them on you know who sent those masks this work here you go it's perfect it also something he's in wrestling belts you got to put it into your over your eye Holes Gio oh wait is our big fans ray a lot of respect for what you do has boomer choking to death obviously they've got a lot of respect for what you do yeah in Hatton to it does is I think he inches l. have multiple real estate right holdings -fornia coaster. Yeah and I also think that that would be that would be that would not be going over well no lie not though I thought that would be a sign of respect it's like so like give him by the way Cain Velasquez WanNa wear the mask during the interview would you be cool with that you think that'll work you out can you do that for us well I I like to get a feel for the situation I yeah sometimes guys come into verse serious sometimes they're relaxed in having fun very serious okay so have you guys were in the masks shirtless I think that would work. I've been shirtless wants in the studio with a mask not with the mass easy so he he fought UFC yeah it'd be pissing him off either why and explain this to me why would I be pissing them off is not a mock it's safer Mr Craft and Jonathan Kraft family and to coach Bela track and that's so much success a dream come true you know one day I'll wake up but I feel like okay that's that'd be enough when that day comes gets you going to be wrestling in Suffolk County this weekend I'm coming for you if they come after this year you know I don't know if it'll be five years symbol that any different than what he said before does he sound like show the could only if you want to show him is where the M- you know you wear the mask for Ray and then you guys also go shirtless because that's how Cain Velasquez fights could just the one time with CBS sports that went to master's coverage and I felt for a minute yeah all right I don't know about the shirtless I don't think that would be a good look for us not for me But I will I really think this is what this is what I wanna do because I think this is the proper thing and this is exactly goes say listen I know you ball buster okay you're a ball buster it's a Mike Impersonation why did that yeah I don't know why he did that was very strange I just bust into do you have a tan so how do we work this year we have AL force of Sharia personally like Albion manager I think we should we should do is say hey these that'd be hit you with like PVC fence make you choke on a Bagel yes oh line right and the six one nine is like this thing we get around the ropes you swing your legs around you knock out your opponent but he calls it the six one nine because it's from San Diego San Diego traffic in physical prowess but yeah guys and there s much younger than me and yeah and you have seen you'll see finally what I think tasr was talking about like if you're going to have Raymond Stereo and you'd better treat too seriously and I don't think there's any better of a message of treating me too I was thinking about this speaking of Suffolk County Yeah Nassau County so mysterious finishing move is called the six one a good time then that task he walked in and said Bro exactly what we were saying this is this is paying oh my gosh this is paying all right well we'll we'll we'll serve it so this is the plan if I've got a right we will survey the situation Al right when they come in if they seem like they're having I oh boy now you've got that he could be saving you see I thought this was the exact thing you were telling me I can't looks like venom or so I think you're getting into it too I think you're actually stop what are you talking dollars boomer not not it's like you know trying to give you an analogy okay algae right but I get people are coming in I like wearing number twelve quarterback jerseys because they're gonNA come on boomer and Geo Salting feel that way too you'll quarterbacks twelve you have to I I think I have to see that situation I okay all right yeah I think this whole thing could be serious because if it goes south and no-fence really did I'm just confused with all of this you know all right well we'll take the mask off when Ramos theory gets in here maybe we'll leave him on it I know that's why I thought like okay what mask your wearing this is the luce Lebron mask well it's Mil Moscow legendary Lugo ended up there on TNT a w owned by the Khan family who will tony. Kahn owns the Jacksonville Jaguars they're making some big noise. Yeah Yeah we'll tone his son no I love you Mike and Mike Piazza bobblehead doll in front of me to specifically asked you to the newsroom not to do but I said I I was wearing a Joe Montana Jersey you think that's respectful that's why I think I'm sort of what I'm doing now right you know like it's sort of like Mike Piazza comes in here I've got my mets Jersey on and on what would the five one six six three one beat like they break your balls the day maybe doc I can't take it this is one of those things I I understand where you're coming product good I wanna be sensitive I told these guys I totally want to be sensitive and respectful he says Legend C. and we they say than doing interview with Deluce Blueberry Mass on that just me talk intimidating stop we're talking about earlier to basketball and the world series and stuff and now every team around here stinks eats the morning show with boomer esiason yeah I don't know for this mass let's it's mill mass graves is the rest of the legendary arrest what am I doing this because you're teaching us this in Gregg Giannotti boomer and Geo this week for Sam Darnold we know he was Mike on Monday night football I'd love for him doc especially in a big market team had some expectations coming into the year last year he gets hurt he's out for a period of time this year talk radio does not do it justice his teeth and stuck his tongue out that this is what you told me to do with self respect him and this is what we're doing so I feel like they're pulling me down tests boom that's happened the wire though this is not a new thing the way we didn't even do even say Tasr is here on the radio this task co-hosted Asimov's a a legendary figure in wrestling he was back Monday night football so I mean this is a this is a real test for him in these next couple of weeks and I don't think that's overstating it you know I know how this morning we tomorrow got his toenail removed now seeing ghosts not been outside of like three games last year we played really well at the end of the season and the cowboys game and right so anyway but it's not about me it's about you guys still thought to be disrespectful when Joe Montana walked in here and stretch in this game in particular fresh off that Monday night performance this is a real this is a gut check moment for him in his young career because you don't the Frog Lily Pad is unreal all right it is boomer and Geo on the fan CBS sports now we'll get back into all the the thing I don't I what Hamaj means don't don't don't don't send some sort of cheese don't yeah don't you guys should not be doing this here is is the biggest start of his life I really believe that Jaguars on the road you think that's not you would think Oh home opener maybe against show the good flashes more than the bad flashes so he I think he's got it in them I think he's mentally physically going to be fine through this so but this is part of it man this is part of the learning and growing process it's unfortunate that this other aspect of it is basically placed now on top of Sam shoulders first half of the bills game a lot of negative moments and we were giving him a pass were being patient as you should be you still should be to a certain degree but a lot of stuff changed on let's yeah that's the thing that's going to be really unique for him to deal with and I'm glad you asked that question like what does this week must have been like for Sam Darnold I I would think that he is stretch but man if he comes out and the Jacksonville Jaguars due to him anywhere near what the Patriots did I mean those questions are going to get louder and louder and louder this is this as well he can then say after the game you know this this is the longest week of my life I had a lot to deal with and I didn't play well last week and I know I didn't play well turned off any social media I would think that he is probably turning off any TV or listening to anybody listening to us for that matter I mean you you just patriots whatever no coming off that performance going into this week this is the biggest started his life you know like Daniel Jones Never GonNa happen again and then he can then he can restart his career I almost feel like his career hasn't started yet like it really has been all these things about Baker Mayfield but he's entrenched yeah Josh Allen he's entrenched Lamar Jackson he's entrenched those guys have gotten their careers underway Assam's has been starting in to be miked up the rest of this week to find out what he's thinking what he's saying how he's handling this whole thing I mean it can't be easy right but this is an easy in the NFL being starting quarter we we start killing David Fidel and you're saying he should be fired but you're saying that the only and we understand that you're going to get some more time throughout this year there with Sam Darnold and embarrassing you just don't want to deal with it and the best thing that can happen to him is to get on the field on Sunday and go out and play well yeah and then if they win on Sunday Gio and he played get three four years anymore either as a head coach or a starting quarterback to be to prove yourself at some point you got a king continually stopping since the day he got here so I can only hope that he goes out thirty plays well against Jacksonville on Sunday and kind of starts to rebuild giants you know these kids learn and putting up with a lot of criticism especially when they play the way that they have been playing in turn the football ATV tweets up mount man you got a huge standing ovation always crazy awa yeah that was really cool big big we looked as a company the jets win the game that goes thing goes away in one week be throws another four interceptions it continues to the next week and the next week until he it's GonNa follow it just one of the WHO should be yeah and I think that you know he's GonNa hear this ghost thing until he erases it and he has a great performance those for four touchdown this is where it is this is where you find out whether or not your guy has what it takes to the fact that we're even talking about this and happen I believe purple all right very good seventeen point tonight that's an awful lot of points what are you guys things are you talking about is like in the beginning of these first two years that have kind of started in stopped in start and stop and start and stop as opposed to say like Baker Mayfield you can say whatever you want under his skin did you feel like you intimidated you feel like that those are going to be the lines the line of questioning that he's going to have to deal with so you know it's hard to man up man that whole performance goes out the window for for whatever reason I don't know why but it doesn't all it does because not only did he play the worst game of his life the way that he played in the way that he was thrown off his back foot and running away from Patriot defenders if they were on fire is is a I just get back on the ranks with a heads up though we won't wear to mass I thought we were doing a good thing I thought we were doing a good day Shen so that's why it gets wiped out let's go to Craig and Aberdeen going on Craig Hey guys how are you good I'm a big viking fan and let's say let's say that he does have a game this week and they lose the questions posed the Jacksonville Jaguars players are going to be did you feel like you know what you also now are starting to question his toughness and if he's scared to get hit it's true not just the obscene ghost comment up there around thirty points tonight you'd think you'd think they have any shot at catching green bay I know it's only game Oh yeah they just absolutely doc what bad sorry I thought this is what you wanted this is like hang on mine is it not out there with the Vikings is a reason why would say that the redskins could cover however however the Vikings at home are there bullies at home now bloom so that that's what it is it's one thing to to stand in there and to get hit and have a bad game and a terrible team performance and get up and then maybe throw a touchdown pass in the fourth skin in the game to cover to cover if you don't if you think that they could score seven or ten the vikings will cover that spread in my opinion I think the Vikings can can when you're covered in blood and you still lose thirty three seven that's one thing what happened on Monday night was as bad as someone can play at that position a full body scan he was he was AFC player of the week the week prior and now it was so bad on Monday night under knee under like like scrutiny you know five weeks ago towards him and you're one of their fans you know what it was like spread yeah listen I on a Thursday night the fact that case keenum didn't love the way the things because what happened on Monday night is mind boggling but it was that bad I mean it was that bad I mean he's he's getting checked in every area this week wants the same questions that they just asked the Jacksonville Jaguars Yep of course the same thing it's going to be like that you heard you heard what's going on what do you think there there are much improved team and he went out and played his ass off he did I mean the problem is that the standard is so high for him it's hard for him to meet it right like the expectations for him in the NFC teams and they're one of them yeah I especially with the way the kirk cousins has played the last three weeks and yeah he's been great I talked about a guy that one the reason why is the only thing that's going to be acceptable and that's and that's what stinks for him which is could be quite possibly an unreasonable expectation let's go to Mary in upstate New York Mary was happening Bouma One geo tie you've got to move on from this quarterback we've been doing this for how many years how many with all that money in that team coming off NFC title appearance and if Sea Change game appearance and then last year it's like it's like getting back to that game and winning it and him being and with these quarterbacks who can't perform aren't you done onto tired of it Wa yes we are tired of New York football teams being bad the last couple years sure and and part of playing quarterback in the NFL is dealing with that crap and then coming back and playing well and not only did he do it against the those things and and when it's on national TV and your performances that bed I mean that's that's what you're GonNa get and you know the New York media is going to be asking every single one of the you think that Sam darnold career is over no but he needs to go on another teams regroup not on a New York team we were so done when he has been the AFC player of the week and the other one was last week where he was saying goes but I'm sorry of the week maybe a bad week for everybody else I I'm just Christmas passed on anymore you know the goal of the quarterback of the future he is like scrooge you know the ten something like that that's what I feel like it's going to be this is what it comes down to Greg if you think that the red skins can score a touchdown somehow than take the they do they have a shot at catching them but they're all right there man all those teams like especially at the top of the NFC there is some really good teams CI- but he did it the last two weeks as well and he did it against you know he won on the road and did it in Detroit and I'm not sitting here and telling you the joy of the monsters of the midway but the Obama Steve What's happened morning boys what's up Steve so I know your commute in the morning might be pretty rough 'cause it's super early but the one thing you we appreciate very nice very nice for her to call him but yeah he's going to be the quarterback of the jets for the rest of the season yeah I don't I don't know what you want saying I'm just so frustrated I hate when people say oh the quarterback of the future and then you see him just ball park and then I watch you guys which I love thanks them you just did it so can we just stop say we'll give them another game give him another game it's done that Sam Darnold career you've married and so she interrupted interrupting me and she'll say how's the drop off good good sign shut down next to our does oh okay so you don't have to deal with as you said knowing others awake or calling you on your commute and I've been having this issue lately where I dropped my daughter off I get into my normal forty talk coming out of he is quarterback of the future quarterback of the future and it never works out never works out in fact whenever I hear car back to the future I said justice the five o'clock I'll pick her up yep just like every day Oh okay yeah have a good day it's like why are we doing this every single day same phone yes for sure and with the jets not getting it right at that position has been frustrating however to say that Sam Darnold career is in the toilet and forever we'll stay there thanks Steve it's clear that this marriage is over right because if you can't have a quick two or three minute conversation with your wife who wants to check in to see the traffic and she'll call me about ten minutes into the ride and say hey hello keep in mind this is what I'm listening to the first segments of your show thanks Bob Dwyer on the podcast if things are okay with the children and with you on your drive to work then you're probably done with this woman that's what I would think maybe she's just seeing that he's not coming home us to say you want us to say that Sam Darnold done to move on and get another quarterback that's actually what Joe's been saying he's been saying go out and get get to he's not let's get somebody who is or who so you think you wanted to grant not draft another quarterback but yes the neces- quarterback of the family she's calling you she's checking in on you you know you should be happy that you've got that type of communication in your in your life you with with radio who didn't even think about that but I mean Steve All kidding aside here you know you gotta you gotta marriage I think there's any chance that they lose the game twenty seven ten th right there it's like a yeah but twenty seven seven twenty-seven ten thirty one call every morning and you guys don't have to deal with do I ignore her call do I do I just push through and get through the five minutes a good husband so Gimme your advice a couple of minutes that's it you think about how much worse things could be right this is one of these situations where it's like yeah okay this is mundane this is annoying but think about how much worse this could com rewind pause on that Eddie Boyd Yeah Take that phone call and doing phone call from your spouse it's a Christmas past have do not have any games he's played since he's been sick well no it's like Serena us right you don't WanNa be with anymore she wants to make sure her baby off to school checking that's all good all good all of the New York I mean why news traffic that he's good enough for another team but not good enough for the jets I'm not understanding this Mary all over he's GonNa bring that up so Chad took over a Lova Stephen who attack via Latte I'm starting to say goodbye away I don't know you tell me what you think about this in terms of if he's GonNa play any longer it's just been a credible twenty years of my life and joining us in about a half hour and I thought it'd be paying homage to frame a stereo by putting the Luli Bray Luder Mass on but apparently it's the opposite it for granted that would be my advice forget it but you can put like you really that upset about her interrupting our opening segment of aw and she's making sure he's right he's just or maybe it's even better for her if she's on the phone with him when it's gone on down man oh man all right it's the morning show with boomer Esiason and Gregg Giannotti boomer and Geo he's played sixteen games in his career I'm just okay that that data does not do the two games that he's played since he's been sick I do it anyway I don't I'm totally confused by what is I don't know what you're getting it could be a pool boy involved extricate himself from the conversation everything's great man who had or hunting by seems like she wants more than seal later like a little more be giving you guys could be separated could be fighting over custody could be a disaster you just have a nice little drop it off your kids and she's checking in on him that's nice though got these Lucci Leib Ray Lucia door masks in here which you probably probably get rid of them right I mean I don't want lasting I want now after ties told me drop-off link great talk to you later that could work yeah that could work as well but I mean I just I think Steve's got a man up here and just take the phone call it lasts talk but yet she's not offering anything right well that's okay but from his point of view that's not from her point of view what if just a texter every morning hey this is not the way to go is to have these things is lying around the studio Ramos Stereo comes in Ray Mysterious Cain Velasquez cast you'd come on you've has a pool swimming pool yeah above ground no in ground swimming pool you probably all right it's eight twenty in the future there oh how many years do we have to set that was joking around saying that he's seeing goes you seem goes well he's the ghost fine and you guys saying oh well good let's give them another week Joyce by the rest of the season Mary thank you Mary Beningo right there absolutely Dr Okay Yeah they're restless from Mexico COLUCCI Wifi it's your message just a black bass with silver on it very needs to be like to have a mentor so I still think we should try because I think just ask I'll ask them I'll just say right come on it I mean I don't know the rules around here so ray is working with Kane is that the way this whole thing yeah Kane is coming from the UFC and now getting right wrestling uh hey jerry well good morning how you doing great doing great jerry brought to you by direct energy business helping large businesses Max called on pitch number one fourteen Stephen Strasburg locks up tucker the pinch hitter on a breaking ball he survives the sixth inning he did survive the sixth innings down so I would say that Stephen Strasburg is the big winner here right out of out of everybody he's four node in these in this postseason he's five in Washington starting tomorrow night to the basketball now because the knicks the nets opened up we'll start with the nets and Kyrie Irving and his big debut boy this could if he's injured wrestling yeah snapped into the ball they win game one in Houston and then they clobber the Astros in game two and get good pitching along the way as well runners go the pitch curveball strike three way we've got an off tomorrow you know we don't have we don't have time to feel bad about ourselves so reset he's right games three four and if there is a game would've been the year and now you've wasted all these other opportunities well I mean him pitch and his ass off here and then being up two games to none in the world series all that could be washed nobody no good and the buzzer sounds and Minnesota wins curse Carino with the call here you suck you suck you sounds here by the way mayes their energy spending we've started with the basketball both hours this time we'll start with game two of the world series not sure how many people saw this coming although the nets had played great and then he had Jurassic Park Syndrome or whatever you had and that was that here's just burland tough couple of nights for us we didn't play baseball things plunger on six of them in the seventh and wound up beating the Astros twelve to three Kurt Suzuki snapped a two two tie with a Solo Homerun Verlinden walk the next batter go down for the ball and the game in the hands of Kyrie Irving in his next Steve You cross Dover he fell down gets it back shoot the AGO so probably wasn't months ago so fell great I think it was just just the fact that you know just to help the team out any way I can certainly did Anthony Ren don't have been something for him he had fifty points on the night he was in a zone he wasn't missing all that much but he had a chance at the buzzer in overtime and the five six going head to head with Justin verlander and then the seventh his team did what the mets never do for Jacob degrom they got them runs young got him a win as they put up a whole got it makes you wonder what would have happened had Matt Harvey Napa Room through his blown through his in innings limits. Yeah I don't know I don't know but he did plan Nawab when you spend three hundred forty million dollars over the next four years on three guys it's true unfortunately you can't pay everybody and it's funny to even to be a free agent yeah and I was thinking about him ever that first postseason when he was it was at twenty ten twenty eleven whenever that didn't pitch and they shut them down and everybody kept pointing to that you know if he was charged or if there were accusations but he was arrested of domestic violence in the off season Ryan do remember that the story and the allegations were really really there it was a big night he was very excited walking around here yesterday I when he walked in yesterday morning at seven o'clock he came right to me and said are you pumped up yeah I did not yes I get it Antonio one twenty to one eleven the fourth quarter was the decisive final twelve San Antonio outscored New York thirty seven twenty-seven Knicks played slow start played who very big shots in the final minute jared Allen did miss a couple of free throws late in this game as well Nets Knicks tomorrow night as for those knicks they will come in off a loss inside sock is in the building he just ate myself stole his puppy as you can imagine can't be that upset Kennedy upset I mean he's you know a lot of problems but he was he came out of the game he was officially charged with four runs in six plus he took the loss here's Zouqi great moment for me I can't remember last time Barrett a ball of like that felt great for like months we'll move forward and they'll play the knicks tomorrow Karl Anthony towns a Munster thirty six points fourteen rebounds seven threes Andrew Wiggins twenty one points including the in overtime loss and the rectum bless Kyrie played great I mean there's exciting night for them it's game one all in the middle quarters but couldn't hold the lead Marcus Aldridge twenty two forbes with twenty here was David Phys Dale decent start against a terrific team I don't know if they're right if he was arrested there was charges I'm not sure if you want to check that maybe yeah I don't know While you do that he was irving on the final play what happened exactly here's the thing you too is there a chance that Odell Beckham junior because it's a national game goes and gets fluid bill before halftime does he take himself off the field goes and gets fluids at some point during the game and Mrs apply that's what I think anybody WanNa take that not really cramping like expecting me to go Beckham junior cramped before halftime is the Ronin love hearing they went out of the game all of a sudden they had no chance yes I will say there's a line on that sportsbook if exile that he will the lie plus one fifty that he what in terms of this team is need more time together we did game reps we got good game raps and you know that this this helps this helps will look at them redskins and Vikings Westwood One's coverage on the fan at eight pm it's funny because there's a lot of games you sit there and say I could see them winning possible can you come up with an and over but we'll see how surprised the coup roots played right he did play so what's what's the story with him I don't know I know there were the Ryan he had Richard Jefferson there and Sara Crewe stock as they were starting the program and he's like the nets a thirteen new faces from just a few months like wow I mean complete last year when it was bills Vikings and the bills were sixteen point underdog and went in there and blew them up her here's our j Barrett reaction his debut the official debut first NBA game just to just even playing the game so yeah inch Morris with twenty six and Julius randle who did leave with some cramping twenty five points eleven rebounds and six assists what's a matter no boomer turned to me when you said I think he may be an all star Yeah but going out game one with cramps nightmare your body better it is amazing like this is what they do for a living yeah how are we that'd be fine I say in the first half at least I would say they'd four blown lobs yeah where they tried for the alley dunk ramping on the first game as you gotta get some fluids now the the question is to the browns or at the Patriots on Sunday four twenty of the word gratitude you know I'm so grateful that I was drafted by them he also got very rich I suppose so we will have dramatic view of the jets and you're competing against the team that's been together for twenty years tiff rightly stay together for three months right here was marcus I know you're a viking fan separate that for a self as football games in Minnesota you come up with any scenario yeah that the Redskins beat them tonight well that's unfortunate you don't WanNa hear cramps you want to be hydrates unacceptable Gio said he's going to have a great year I think he's right. I was stunned if the Vikings game they're they're capable losing any game all right jets offensive LINEMAN COLUCCI assemblies says he plans to have surgery Friday for the in store and a half weeks we've been together in order to compete against a team like that that's been the other for these three years you know I'm very proud of that effort Abram Taryn his shoulder with or without the jets authorization the jets are in Jacksonville Sunday giants in Detroit Sunday this week they did bring in linebacker five or double header on ESPN okay CBS's wow what am I thinking about shadowy maybe so jerry here's some fluids for us well as a glass bottle throwing fluids Egypt Norwegian fluid. Yeah I remember there were Sixteen Peterson's GonNa turn back the clock tomorrow and that would be a very viking thing for their former quarterback and running back to team up and Vikings redskins tonight here is kirk cousins he's back in Washington his time they honestly for me when I think of my time in Washington I just think of one category type of player he data garage why was he always free right yes exactly I don't know he just needed the right fit he's back with James Becher Josh Gordon placed on I R with a knee injury by the Patriots looks like he will then be someone somewhere else drew brees believes he will play against the cardinals on Sunday. Remember I actually don't remember that yeah that was yes that's when Josh Allen was leaping he was leaping over he flew in the game like twenty yards yeah and they were it was a six howdy boomer and Geo going to see a couple of big time quarterbacks in the mix again potentially this week one I think this seems like a lock the other one right than Darius guys got hurt again ended up playing I don't know if you're taking a knockout pool pick it's either this or the rams and Bengals in the happy that we lost you know this is one eighty two Barrett had twenty one points on nine of thirteen shooting Kevin Knox had thirteen points in twenty one minutes off the Abia Snap a little bit far fetched but he was out there practicing that's Patrick Mahomes drew brees as drew brees says he's going to go and he's GonNa play also perhaps he'll be back to playmaker I WanNa make me a one category player crap cat characterization of me no good and some guys with some success this year's backup quarterbacks Kyle Allen Teddy Bridgewater Gordon ming-hsu these guys but do you think that the Boris it is a loss he gets it but believes it'll be okay and then two days for gaming season he returned it in the right direction God of mine in you know having fun Cardinal Saints Game could be one of those one of those suicide so pull games thing polls whatever it is yeah could be talks about going to use them and taking games one and two we try to come here we knew it was gonna be

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I'm Not Walking to Brooklyn

The Friend Zone

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I'm Not Walking to Brooklyn

"The Apron Yeah that'd be we are live you screaming once again. I liked to sometimes take it back to where first sticky sticky started and in this case out of the mouths of Babes as you can see we have a young lady a young Queen who knew how to stand in her own space of royalty okay and had a rain over her own kingdom and not accept anything less than what she felt. She deserved in that moment which was more than a sorry ass. Sorry so that's why she told the person she was talking to you. Know Tell me you sorry talking about to love me and siree. The HASHTAG Hashtag for this week is and sorry take a lesson from this young queen and being consistent and also concise cover everything when it's time to speak on the subject when it's time to take action on something makes action reflects in overall assessment of what to head to damn do in the first place Hashtag and siree because he completed everything that she was cheeky cheeky checking this week. I'm a scratched the whole episode everything he she was Tikki Tikki checking him about the Hashtag this week. Give and sorry like she said she gets you check that's right and with that being said most importantly understood and felt is time for this week's Cutie in as which are questions that need answers and also questions that knickers is ask here. We go three of them. Real quick on knock it out the park this week question one. Is it true that that this past Sunday at Roscoe's chicken and Waffles in Los Angeles Ah Chunky Toddler Tripton fail going inside the restaurant and while everyone else gasping asked if the baby was okay to seated diners wiped the corners of their miles with a Napkin and closed out there laugh with a simultaneous inhale Nah and immediately turn to stare at each other and it was dave so pale and the lady who played will Smith's Mama on the first prince that one man 'cause. I see that you're gonNA move right on that one guy to question two and where is it in this case. It's in the new into respect circle where you down man bitch question to what the best shown T._V.. Okay question to this. One is sure is short. I can't imagine we'll Smith on. That's what they said that they threw jazz out the front door. Who Ooh you okay question two now? We'll I'm Rick James. Okay question to to say the yard. This is short and I mean we just need to answer which one said that Traci Braxton made the final two to play pray tail on pose. Oh my all right. Can't you see her to starve an electro. She's really bringing it. This will come down there and fight all right Allie Kili in three. You can see a man. Is it true that this past Monday morning at New York radio station power one zero five point one Atlanta zone fashioned east of felonies Tommy <music> okay what time he was rushing toward the breakfast club studios to make our interview on time and bumped shoulders with a taller woman in the taw tight hallways and when they both said watch out at the same time Tommy lived right into the eyes of Literary Lady airy McMillan for about two seconds and waited then they exhaled is it true Tommy and Terry Mcmahon of the just like it is clock. It can't wait for the side by side being said and it's time to welcome everyone to the friends on which is a weekly look into things mental health mental wellness under mental hygiene because who in the hell feel and or Haiti once a musty brain. I know I don't you never have for and how you doing kidding you. I'm happy to be here. That's an eye on the same outfit today we do. He's right Damon talked about Oldman today. We had a cutie when I was putting my shirt on this morning lift Fran Hey and this is a funny no really briefly. Everybody Know Fred actually had acute T._N._A.. Moment one time I realized it was so funny every day for House walking behind you coming in studio. I knew I had to take advantage of this opportunity. I was walking behind Fran come into the studio record the podcast and she didn't know and so when we come to check into the building we have to check in with the security desk and place I._D.'s up there so that idea was a way I pull my idea out as I was walking and I made sure that time it so that as soon as she players on the thing see look we had a great love you actually how black business because I'm gonNA drive about. Look you know we we come in prepared. I love it though okay so cray Oh essence I've mentioned keio black. I love it 'cause it's spelled K. R. E. Y.. O. L. Okay New Black Rail as I've mentioned this company before because I use their castor oil for many years but let I had no idea about the social impact that buying their products had no idea about the philanthropic work that was attached to the brand. When I was reading up on it I was like wait a minute any to bring this up first of all to me more outright so her name is Lucy? co-founders name is Eve <unk> Mom Peru's she's Haitian. She's young. She's brilliant and what I love about look at her and she's awesome. She's gorgeous absolutely Louis Gorgeous so what I love about her organization maxine looking is that she mentioned that it's not just a product to a rather her brand is not just to help us relieve as she skin dry hair but every product you buys actually helping develop the economy in Haiti oh man and so all about ninety six percent of her staff is made up of women and farmers farmers in Haiti but the entire staff is Haitian view and I love that because she said it's not so much about providing aid for Haiti as it is providing jobs and opportunities so that it can be rebuilt on its own area you so I love that because obviously anyone who is selling a product that this age number one and being a C._E._o.. is already unbelievably impressive the motto work that takes but then to be thinking about how it impacts your islands Mike Jake come on that's next level so <hes> she said when the devastating earthquake that we all know that happened January trough of two thousand ten <hes> she wanted to put a pause on the brand 'cause she sort of felt like it was relevant relevant at that time she had to help her community for her. Mom told her we should put the business <hes> at the forefront at this point if anything because now more than ever our people will need jobs and ways to be self sufficient she said when the donation donations stop with the aid. How will the country survive so I need you to persevere in making this Jima reality being that so many labs are at stake and that's how the social impacts of Krill essence was born so I I love both of them for persevering through that so and need you guys to go to creole essence dot com? That's K. R. E. Y.. O. L. E. S. S. E. N. C. E. DOT COM. You can see all of their products have hair care skin care body care everything from moisturizers shampoos conditioners lotions creams hand creams you name it a couple of limited edition products as well a blog explaining explaining more about the mission statement social impact. I love this because look there's some good ass reviews on this website and that's the best guy to but look it says three hundred fifty farmers women in producers and men have been hired to date and ninety percent of their products are exported. Look at that beautiful smile or not I love that people and on top of that they also care about the environmental restoration so farming and harvesting the castor beans actually reduced deforestation so erosion gas emission in Haiti so it's actually an agribusiness as well 'cause it's carefully plants in harvests harvest's all of their raw natural ingredients to produce the best beauty products in the Caribbean while also protecting the environment. I mean come on. She's covering a Ho the basis so how could we not support that so please check her out. I think she's amazing thing was she's doing. There's nothing like buying a product and knowing that it's also <hes> fair trade meaning the people that are working on it are receiving living wages and it's building the economy so krill essence is the black business of the week work. I'm all up in through the website. Look like what can I would also oils body butters and shit like I'm loving this. He's a great brand and I have used. I can definitely co-sign the castor oil if anyone uses uses castor oil is so good so good such a great brand. That's why you saw the reviews. They're totally tons of you. Reviews like hundreds of reviews stars. I'm like Damn and she's so young long so beautiful amazing but so let's jump into the recap basic aor finds out about the company K or times Creo Que. They just make sense shot to Keesa Taylor our whole USA US here this if anybody know Qisas K._o.. Attack Turkey Securities Castrol Pallets. They could work together so last week's episode which outside with the comments had me cry dying. People were like this episode was terrified deep big software. I loved it. I thought it was great up. So where we discussed <hes> we got an are black mirror scary tag bag and discuss the rise of deep fakes what they are how they affect our sensory input and why we should be concerned for the future of Social Media Asante who stood out to you because people had a lot to say people did have a lot to say and I want to give a shout out to harm me. I hope I'm saying this right is NYLAND. <hes> she goes. I'm a user experience designer and Emoji last year about a lot of tech companies and how they're ethically ambiguous and often disregard the negative ethics of their decisions well now I work in A._I.. Company and I wanted to help e some of the worries you have right Saturday. You are right one. The issues that come up with a are almost always from humans means not reading this because I'm sitting here reading sign. We read this go ahead. The itself is created usually for a great purpose then abused later her for example the software around the defect videos in the voice cloning could actually allow children people with learning disabilities and even able bodied adults learn more accurately and quickly because A. I can learn in process human error and corrected more consistently me. I'm our really necessarily agree with that. I agree with the initial point about it being created an abuse later but that's what a lot of things and I think that's where that's also common sense like that's where lies the problem like you audit stuff becoming so advanced and then it'd be an abused later anyway. I'm just GONNA keep to one reason people are so are people are so scared of a <hes> is that we are the only animals on the planet aware the evolution takes place but for some reason we don't expect it to affect humans. We're actually in a great position with A._I.. Because not only are we creating the next step in human evolution right now also allow humans to live and survive longer in the last few hundred years. We've done allow damage to the planet partly because we didn't know the effects Vicks with a I they can help predict the negative consequences of what we do and find better solutions. This guy net waiting to happen. Then you live with a mother fucker Hugo live with them robots and so low key. I was trying to wonder to myself because this is about to say some real while Shit. You know there's just cut off. There's no foresake whenever we order devices off. A Amazon is always these Amazon enabled devices in our house so like the Microwave Amazon enabled and I guess if we played it up to a certain Amazon thing we can voice inch or whatever but I always think to myself those random as communists that'd be under people should be like us or whatever I'll be wondering if it's like the Amazon in a able vacuum cleaner like talking awesome. She won't be like they'd be them. Robots they'd be transferring Ryan transmitting fucking data and I wonder if they listen to the podcast and getting this someone if this was one in vacuum to some right right right right right right. You're not really proven than ex back and be like damn my ear my well we could turn black. Mary Cracked Mirror Real Quick Okay and and that's real tongue so there's a long list of what is actually good and with these last two year right even really gives us a one anyway a lot of times we associate A._I.. Taking over jobs and they could and should actually help us do the jobs better not replace us the bowling robot it could actually analyze bowlers and health ride robot waiters waiter spend a lot of time on their feet and have a lot of potential for bodily stress that could be relieved especially with room service who we've all seen while eve in I robot these are terrible example and that's why Shannon yes. This is somebody that just obviously wanted to be heard they were. They knew the risks that they were running but all of these I I want to be making me riney banks. I'm reading. I'm like Wiley was a read like do you remember they ever point in the sense that yes which direction Russia the point the point of the episode was so when it's like all of these things were reads to Walli was read about humans getting too damn bad we stuck in space but can I robot she turned and knows because they knew that shit was gonNA turn. He's GonNa use it like these are all terrible examples anyway. Thank you thank you for writing 'cause I was sitting here on the radio sell. You could've kept that look. The truth itself is a isn't bad now. That's true that was they was rounded up and it was a whole another pair of group. No that is not the truth I disagree. I think it'd be calm. Doesn't you know that that robot bowling videos fake nick. Thanks so you probably made it. That's the video right. There emailed us. No I got got off of thank you down. At least we got the right way. You know what I'm saying. We was like instead of you know being in agreeance with it like this Nimrod this email right here. What is it is? All I'm saying is when the power when out the other night right there was something to that your whole life would have been said. There was something to that but you don't help you in anyway. Long going to tell you can possibly happening Wicca potluck happy if we eagle who you don't get the data from the end when the power goes day and user experience experienced first hand so I guess the first I hope you ain't in the bath tub. You'll get electrocuted by the robot washing your ass in the power. Go out and you get executed a wash our legs right anyway for and what did you find. You know soundcloud streets this week in soundcloud is maybe swearing on on so stay combs always laughing. What because they stink comment? Dog Treats Listen A._M.. So so they can stay calm said this. This person does not exist dot com. Yes please go to it right now. Uses a AD create pictures of people from scratch. Just keep refreshing the page so of course I went this person's nodding all Naw and this person does not exist it shows you faces and when you keep refreshing it it just keeps generating fake faces and this is what I was telling you guys by looking at me Jason Israeli government and say but isn't that Erie because it looks like a person does that thing I noticed Nicks East forty sixth street or somewhere his dirty as you know he. That's the one going to look at it twice when you be in a small room who else all look at her booger eating working in a cubicle getting on everybody knows who else Fran <hes> this nigger grease ball don't ever go only got one Damn Guy S. mean to his dad who else for eerie look it is is it into a good job with the is but this is an interesting fight so all you have to do is keep refreshing it and it'll keep generating faces but before he gets Dustin on the twitter feeds. Did you guys see the new face APP that everyone's using to make themselves. I have been watching Palo China. Make people paranoid but come on. Let's see me it's is learning your face is like now that you see it so clearly the different ways that they're trying to get our you know our to learn our faces so the ads can have more recognition and more information in data data especially with facial recognition technology and then all of a sudden this APP goes viral today or this week grabbing everyone posting what they look like as old person and you know how the Internet is one person when <hes> influence there at the I'm not gonNA mention as but one influencers started and then all of a sudden is kinda caught fire than everybody was posting ads the instagram posts defeat girl Michaela track this new APP ask. What are you talking about? You know them <hes>. I just didn't talk about this movie one time but it's on Netflix it is called Cam and it's about this girl and she is like a Webcam performers so she make our money. You know naked his pay her money but she keeps trying to compete with this other girl this other girls always like number one and this bitch is trying to get number one long story short. She finds out that <hes> the Cam the girl that's on the CAM isn't a real girl is Michaela. McKinley Jase and me and come to find out she gets locked out of her account as some girl is stealing her account and it's hard like these are face and everything looks like it's our house and she's like what the fuck is going on like I can't get into my account and she's like literally having a break now watching watching this girl on live on her account and she's like in her house showing things and it's like how does this tab all my information. She's not real so ended up being some sort of algorithm or some shit that was taking these girls still near Webcam addresses or whatever and then killing no no cars in real life and then trying to kill these holes or what but had like recreated the whole bitches like inside our house. This is freaky is and that's because me on cam you'll giving them data when you on your cellphone back vacant all that with the Algorithm Woo. That's the contestants itching to watch this on Netflix. It's called Cam. I feel like I've seen the banner for it but it was like trendy it was it was up for long. Wash it. Let me just fucking warrant you just like on Hulu. There's a movie called assassination nation in Washington labral was in it but that's on hold on Averill labral. Oh another deed fake but that was a that's a whole nother conversation Aba. I love <hes> Hey you. You can a movie. Oh that watch Hersi the dancing <music> what a perfect segue does what did you find in the twitter streets on the T._v.. Real quick so that's a more information imo our information who tweeted as of today Shaquille O'Neal Comma Eddie Eh so apparently he's got a excuse me an education doctorate <hes> he is the honor of one hundred fifty five five guys burgers restaurants Shack one hundred and fifty five Seventeen Auntie Anne's Pretzel Restaurant Ooh one hundred fifty car washes forty twenty four hour fitness centers a shopping center and movie theater and several Las Vegas Nightclubs Hail Year. How do you even keep track well? You know he's so tall. He's right out to shine. He'll Shawn Faria. No wonder they getting along okay wow yes. I definitely wanted to highlight that in the only other tweet I wanted to get to so he can go ahead and get the show moving came from Hopewell E._h.. which is spelled exactly the way it sounds who said my side chick daughter spotted me died shaking my head and there's a picture from the inside of his car aw he's he's passing a car with a young beautiful little baby hold onto a lower rear window looking dead inside his his one of the funniest tweets ever so go to my time line geology so I got a friend back to you back to me so I just because the magic zone would we cause the mystical zone? We just never failed so a couple of things ale see Alexandra. Oh Casio Cortez mentioned that <hes> they just started to sound the alarm on the way facial recognition technology is expanding concerning ways from the F._B._I.. To ice to Amazon as well the bar for consent in civil liberties protection is repeatedly violated on top of it all has a disproportionate racial impact as well because apparently I was even reading article with the Robo cops that they're planning even with racial. There's GonNa be somebody racial disparities because based on your skin complexion. They'll put a code on the threat level she so they really making these human like right. I mean food. Do you think is program. You know what I mean. There's GonNa be inherent by is just because of the developers themselves awesome what their personal bias is going to be more of a threat simply because the robot can't see as well as is like you know they're gonNa make up some bullshit but yeah and even on a Somali skilled. Did you see that clip. Them went viral on twitter where it was like a soap dispenser. Spencer wouldn't dispense to anyone with release skull years see that because the developers the skin tones that they had designated for it to set like read the sensor none of them were dark skin because everyone in silicon the valley that probably is working on it as white so even right and the dude was like putting his hand and it would not dispense this to be fair they did say hand soap and lick so this actually makes perfect sense so I had to mention that because I saw the timing of that was bugged out of course this whole face at making everyone look old. I thought that was hilarious timing and then lastly not to make people paranoid but I just think these are things things that are important to know so have you guys heard Peter Theo right the right wing billionaire so he he created a surveillance company called Pailin tear. This is what it looks like and it's known the Lord is really scary. So what was that movie with Tom Cruise where she deposit no minority report yes where their goal was to create right. Yes sorry no why you you hit me like <hes> was that show with Alex Travek jeopardy jeopardy speed round so big. I'll be doing well the he was sick <hes> but see my brain is just like well we right now so he created this company parents here in hopes of capturing crime before it happens so everyone everyone is under constant surveillance. You your associates everyone you around so the goal is if something happens where they think you might commit a crime because you're under surveillance in every way yet apps via <hes> even like you know how Google can tell your neighborhood which streeter on you go on running app it can tell you what avenue ran on literally everything we do has our location following us at all times. Just even your phone being on you. <hes> so the different ways that we give up our data on a regular basis they allow Pailin Tier to compile files on our entire lives so very easily for whatever reason you being investigated did or even being considered for crime there so far they have a whole foul that just will tell them everything you have. It's habits your movements which you look up and see they don't <hes> and I'm GonNa say allegedly allegedly because you know they were interviewing him. He was saying it's not used for malicious intent at all but this is a lot of the ways that ice agents are keeping track of immigrants dance and even Amazon is in trouble to a lot of their workers have been begging them to not give up a lot of the recognition information that they have as well facial recognition is really going to become tricky tricky territory especially with these bigger companies like facebook Amazon having such a monopoly on this data and what are they really using it for. You know who they're feeding it to the contracts they might have that we are not aware of. We're here putting these cute little filters not understanding how much more sinister it is the data that's being collected and evaluated for you and your network of people in exactly what is being surveilled so you know what I they got into the Super Sai Randall. I hate that I got into the face password list that like you know. The face locked the Cali saying that I got into it because it I mean first of all it always works. Somebody tweeted they were like I hate when my face I don't recognize me. It makes me feel like my shit recognizes me when I have my glasses or bad lighting like Masha just like are barely swipe to unlock and it's like up a lot. I see your face in my mind. I'm like this is kind of scary and so when I log on a certain websites in my face I these locking my password. This you start to make me wonder like damn is not just my phone that this is like being transmitted on at this point like is my face I._D.. Kind of being transmitted like these banking websites wherever else I'm like security security my dad information so when the last file so when these leaks start to happen you know before you said you just have to be worried about password at least when I got to be worried about my face bleak in somebody building algorithm for using that to hack into my shit like this the whole another even though it's always added layers as of security is always somebody trying to hack this shit or get past this shit because we all hate waiting in line for over whatever it is now whether or not we supposed to be doing what we're supposed to be doing. That's a whole another thing. I don't even like nobody really looking at me like the walking down industry bitch which is looking at like. Don't you think people should look this up Pailin Tier P. L. A. N. T. R. Vice actually just recently released article breaking everything down about it in the article which I have pulled up right now. They say that Helen Tear can aggregate a lot of information about a person he is what they say this includes emails phone numbers current and previous addresses social security security number business relationships license plates travel history as well as car pats as captured by license plate cameras the tool also maps that a person's quote unquote possible relatives and possible possible associates and friends and family man what in the hell so it's a data analytics company but they're very concerned about how much surveillance they're actually doing in our lives. Minority report was a great reference that I was like what is the name of that movie I could reference eagle-eye. Wish is another one hale yeah. Do you remember Eagle Arshad Lebov. Did you ever see that <hes> no it was like basically I think he had a twin brother some. They got murdered but they come to find out that the program if they had in D._C.. eagle-eye that was made for protection was killing all these people off because it was actually determining that the humans were you know not doing Shit Shit right so eagle. I was GonNa take care of her and I was like this is fucked up shit determining threat assessments but minority horse fucked up because how do you determine like we all have this split second where we can decide. We WanNa do something there. We don't so how you determined based on. This information in this motherfucker is going to snap so we need to arrest them because minority report they were just as a precaution yeah minority port they were using technology you along with some sort of supernatural sheets so it's Kinda hard to even prove what they were proven but now using other surveillance and I guess trying to do you like body language readings in a verbal assessments compiling all this data from your fallen. Mike's Street cameras like that's super invasive and a lot of that ship can be going to use for for other shoot like and obviously there's going to be a ladder racial bias right like that's the whole point so that actually get super sinister. Let the cameras determine the weather. That's happening like is there. A smog alert needs to go into effect. The water does look like it's being a little funny like how about the surrounding us as opposed to looking at US and watching US especially if they're using voice recognition software because you'll be able to immediately tell the person's race like by the words they use like black people don't say we say you know what I'm saying. I know right. That's true quit. Even the name have no not see right now. Resting it's the name itself is nomination orb from the Lord of the rings novel allowing it and with in order to do that it would allow peepers peepers. What is he that slip up look at that it would allow people to look into the past and into the future and that's what they named their company after so like I said Vice Dot com just didn't expose about Pailin tears so I definitely think people should read up on it? Just is not to be paranoid. I don't want us to do these. Episodes and then people be scared open up that phone or any Habra looking around like where they're being watched in one of my settings denying all permission and all the watch towers in our neighborhoods 'cause Lord knows Harlem has them so just something Ev- anything is important for us to be informed formed. That's all that's all but all right you guys. We're in the middle of one of the biggest heat waves of our time which I don't care if it's over eighty degrees. It's a heat way okay and now is the perfect time to enjoy ice cream. 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I'm like we don't have to be heavy last year because a little intense but I did think is funny that the missiles struck again because ditty bar bag making the damn band Allah last deal is Oh isn't that they do you think he's back now I do. I'm I do because I think that there needs to be something fresh. In the space of like competition based music competition based. I should say reality shows I thought about that after he made this announcement else when he first started the conversation about bringing it back which we all know means that they had already decided it was coming but I'm glad that there's something new coming that we all sort of already have a bill to entrust for <hes>. I can't tell nobody that one the voice and I don't think guys can't eat and it last American idol winner I remember is from season four or five or I don't even know so I like I can't even you know there's been a disconnect for me at least and so I'm excited about this. I I think that was a great. <hes> venture for video is a great space for him and I notice a lot of dope talent out there that will only find through this search. These people won't really apply for some of the shows that exists now so I wanted he see like what they they have to offer and I think it's though don't seem as excited. I'm only saying no because they're not going to ask me to help out with it like I when I tell you I loved making the band like we all watched making making the band we all watched. Did he make the rap group. We all watch did he put these girls to like. We all watched diddy. Take dining clang and give him an album. I we all watch did he do right like Dr Love came out here. You Know Day Twenty Six and shot up today twenty six because is one thing I'll say about them identity cain whenever they reunite. It's all level like daddy became. One thing that I really wish is that they will see the importance of all of them like needing to be a thing just because of how <hes> you know making the band was because I've been in the making the band hole for weeks so this coming back out. I'm like I still need the tapes released. I still need these D._v._D.'s out and whenever he does it I want him to be able. I don't WanNa give away these free ideas but fuck it. I want to be able to tie some of these social media people and say you know we're. I'm giving them a chance to audition private auditions whatever and I also don't want because I feel like this keeps happening in some of the conversations they come back to me. I don't want this June's diary thing to keep coming up with. Daddy like people were like <hes> Oh if he's going to do making the band in there needs to be some sort of justice justice for June diary. They had nothing to do with Daddy. That was on B._T.. Right so I don't know why that kept coming grew yeah yeah people were like Oh that needs to be something that happens for Jones diary and I agree but that has nothing to do with eating apples and what the hail right so when we do this this process with diddy again because after bank in the band there was making his band where he was trying to do <hes> like make a group of like instrumentalist or whatever and then that kind of like that had listened came on the history channel reading when I tell you I did somebody I've always loved and admired and respected so I watched making his band. I watched I WANNA work for duty like I Y Hawaii to learn Cox shut up to Lebron Costa's. That's where she really. I showed up and show her ass in deservingly so because 'cause they were on my show Lena. She came back <hes> on bad girls club is really no. She did not come back on the same person not the same person baggers. Eh nobody nothing cutie. There were so many great moments making the band watching him <hes> watching him with lori-ann with dock with all these people these legends like really train these women up with Jason the den Mother Jason Coming in as a den mother Jason was FG. Jason was the original like Shit started on T._v.. But like Laurean was the original like dream driver. I feel like the U._S.. lori-ann come in there and these girls be a part side of it. I want lower your <unk>. There's no way you can do it without Laurie. Laurie cannot just tell you one of my this is not good. One of my favorite episodes is where Laurie and she just came back. Hernia finally had it out they acquired had on the show but Loria was in rehearsal with the guys and she started going at it with Bryan because Bryan was remember that respecting the process like she's trying to get through this rehearsal. They still have a show put together. He stopped and he's like Oh yeah. They're gonNA come in with the pro tools and testing. She's like you talking to me about the pro tools. You don't even have the steps down trying to get this show together and he's like well no. I'm just saying like she was. They started yelling and she was like control him Willie. Tell Michelle Willie Thomas shut like control him and then long story short. She ended up packing appreciate leaving remember. He started. That'd crying. First of all Brian was a train wreck. His Braids was too tight. They never grew he always talking about Brian and embrace and how they never grew but one thing I one moment I will give Brian is when he was battling to be in the house and did he brought the new guys in and and as he was singing his ass off and everybody joined in our yes there was so many iconic Mama's to make an abandoned if he brings it back it has to be done right has to be handled with care. So what does that mean to you. You say it has to be done right. I feel like M._T._v.. They've been bringing anything back and they've been kind of fallen by the wayside like T._R._l.. Came back and I guess did whatever they wanted to do. And then it kind of dissipated or is it still happening and we just don't talk about it no more. I don't even remember I just want when making the band comes back for it to be genuine to what it was then <unk> but also pay homage to the way we look at social media now so I don't think that we need to vote for these people but like you know when they have the auditions why not have people that we might be familiar with from social media as long as we think that they're good as opposed to make me all about <hes> I feel like sometimes when shows comeback they make it all about like one thing so they'll be like all right well now. The girls have to post a photo today or do this but it should be like a little mini challenges like before he would have him singing in times square like if she did like cheesecake in Brooklyn Rock and get she's he's ten thirty P._M.. When he's putting the walked to get you yes I mean then you know I wouldn't have you wouldn't have no well probably would have standing in solidarity with you? It would have been on kiss my ass Zan nothing to do with me being created you talking about and listen me then living in Atlanta I I didn't have no fucking New York lakes so hail fucking I walk into it was cold and what were they thinking to our living in so holding or I think they started the walking forty seconds she because I didn't know where that loft was what I was like this loft. Don't seem like this nowhere near Brooklyn. Anything like it didn't look like no lower east side being like I was like they look far. I would not have been it wouldn't have been. I don't know if production man will take him halfway. There were doing checkpoints but and we I don't know I don't I kind of wish he would have just <hes> brought out the old episodes I view remastered me. First and foremost I need all clues or is this season's back on T._v.. So you can see all of the girls and what and where they're at now because somebody will be cool with some like behind the scenes you see arby's tweet where she was like he don't he don't really what did she say something about like he don't help any artists this hop off so this was the point of this. I issue craze and we'll see do but I don't want it from her. First of all Aubrey O'Day you are crazy. She just also said that <hes> the junior of the the guy who's in the White House is her soulmate. She wrote a song about it called D._J.. T- that was on their project guys she said that so obviously she's probably on some drugs that are on a totally different level and we can understand allegedly so I'm not even considering doing that and did he don't want to do it. Her Jada gave her her walking papers then because after he did and they were on the reunion and she came out and she was giving some little half Eh speech about whatever did he wasn't even there. He was like <hes> skyping from Dan Miami and half S._P.. Did he was a oh baby girl. You need to humble yourself straight up. He was going to be a long coal dog row. Where you that you headed down like was he was right and was right? I hate that I look back Aleka Aubrey and I'm like wow this space and all this stuff like you went exactly where he did. He was saying you were going. We literally were rooting for Aubrey were and there was no reason he should have been caught in that crossfire. I wish Andrea was happy are watch all their fortune cookies under is that's what she gave. My only thing is I know entertainment is the point of all of this year. I just hope that whoever the new band is that they actually have a shot allegri like you said you can even say who winning contestant on the voice is things like that. It's like it's it makes me feel bad when these artists really go on these shows and really view it as their shot and and then it's like this low key. Isn't anybody shot. Just I show that's Kinda when messes me but I did see a clip with Durand. Did you guys see that durant. Who we love? Apparently there's another show with <hes> <hes> dash who else is on the on the judges panel. I think it was Ruth Bader Ginsburg look at you really competition competition show. I'll look it up. I like does like the one that they did sign where it was on lineas and <hes> the dream Rick Ross so like I always watch competition shows but for me I I would actually like for making the band. I want to show him bringing the other other people back. I don't know if that looks like child unite them or what I it should be like. He could do a whole making the band tour if he really wants them talking. I'm Sorry Day Twenty Six <hes> br posted some videos where it was like four of the members really <hes> and then three others missing. I don't remember Hugh less started nearly q right q Robert on Mike. Mike Mike Andrei Cower what ended a white boy no. There's no weapons. I always wondered why no okay so here's they most they posted a video saying they want to be involved for what the fuck is. y'All was contested so how can even be involved in the new thing. What do you want to do? And what have you done. The only person honestly at this right here is no cat or prevented or snap back. Oh the only person who needs needs to be involved in this in that capacity and mentor ship or judge capacity is Dahmer so you only the only person fan and another. I'll tell you one one story babs bunny because taking and created created a entire lane halston queen of the ring <hes> battle rap competitions that are super successful and also sees kept her pulse on rap music and the underground rappers that story that narrative so chic I could totally see her be part tired of this her and on and if we have to take someone from day twenty six I will pull willie just because he did his stint air his run on love and hip hop Hollywood didn't he do marriage boot camp two or something like yeah I think so so maybe those three and that's that's it a formal or complete representation of all these people. What are you going to do right? What would you do because honestly I don't want to hear about some anymore Fran and his clothes the way and they can win decides to release them videos? That'll be a moment for them right away but I don't WanNa see them back on the show in a full capacity. I don't need all don't make no sense 'cause we don't eat all members of day twenty six back but also I do WanNa do like I do. I do WANNA see cr with my seeing what happens to the rest of the members of the band and they may be from there. <hes> babs is the one that comes back like every talked about what happened to the other remaining members of decay three and it could be like <hes>. I'M GONNA give you thirty five seconds for that montage you talking about yeah. I mean some flashing pictures. <hes> you know five second clip really went on with the new show. That's really all you need because it's not like we want brand new music or anything so I found it it's a B._T.. Show and and it's called the next big thing and it has Tina Davis Dame Dash and Saito Vigne as Togo those are going to be the judges also known as the League and it'll plays twenty one up and coming aren't being hip hop artists through a demanding an exhausting artists development boot camp designed to create the next big superstars. Apparently it already premiered on July ninth and ten PM on Tuesday nights and it says it's going to have let me see people from Oh you can get okay so the point is to get a deal on the spot from DEF. Jam Records occurred okay interesting. I mean I haven't even I just saw the one clip 'cause the Pan Lee he called <hes> he was making fun of Duran's style. They caught him leroy from a fame from fame and so you know anything about the original fame series Leroy as you know it was read Yeah Okay and it was vicious and Iran bucked up on the Gotcha Leroy he say you need to go get your money back from Lee Daniels back to a time in my life and I knew people who have perfected the art form though sort of weedy retorted swift and now and then Dame Das- Uddhav Ooh he saw John. I already did how about that he no he added in. It was too late but I'm definitely going to check that out. I don't know if it's like a B._T.. Dot Com or on the network is on the network <hes> but definitely something to check out if they have people like Saran on there that means is talent talent so I'm curious to see and then what about J._D.. Jemaine pre or the recent comments Eddie made made about women rappers being wrapping shippers rap Cypher that was his response ever seen something so quickly panned Fran after I mean as soon soon as he played and then the okay so let's just take it all the way back to the root of this problem right so what he said which was that <hes> he was giving an interview. He said that he was disappointed. In the state of women rappers he said female like say women so women rappers whatever and he said <hes> never mind exhaust about the cracker bed that would have been offensive anyway so he basically said that other rapping about his pussies his words and that most of them are you got strippers wrapping an audit talking about his pussy man come on. I ain't nobody really you know in the game doing it. You know really rap and lyrics mind. You were went. We're in one of the best seasons for women in the rap game ever before Ah ever world records NEOM broken world records being women rappers made the top. What is it the hot one hundred for the first time ever seven same like so? This is a great time <hes> Cardi B.'s wave success has really allowed a lot more people to be open to the idea in general and it's a great time and there's a lot of ladies out here. There's doing that thing I've always loved women in rap of Love Trina since the first time I saw that Rhinestone Bra I love <hes> you know what I'm saying Little Kim that's era so I just think it was really narrow minded <hes> and also it was less than informed when you heard it and for someone with the credentials because Jemaine du Preez literally a music legend Legend Edge it has produced arranged written some iconic hits songs. We belong together. Mariah Carey like these are things that Jamaica appears responsible for so so Def in general escape that not in general oh as a group but so so Def in general that could have been a group also so they're in general but anyway it was his narrow minded in small and so then after everybody basically took their belt off and got his legs. He's wanted to come back and say <hes> well since so I got all these calls and emails Tex- How do a female rap Cypher <hes> everybody seniors submissions and people was like fuck Outta here like ain't nobody fucking with you and what you have to say after you said what you had to say and that kind of reminds as we have the same thing with the cheesecake is that old guard mentality of like you gotta prove yourself to me type just in my head. I don't view artists like that like you. Don't have to come in dragging yourself in. I'm trying to prove your worth to someone to see if you can get your shot like amazing. These are like they should be treated with the utmost respect so it kind of annoyed me that he's like this people and then at the same time being like become prove if I can give awake off a gatekeeper since what unless you talking about that gap in your fucking teeth and my my thing is Jermaine dupree your person who should already as short as you are. You already need to be agreeable as agreeable Israel is you can't you don't WanNa look like disposition. You know what I'm saying so when Napoleon do presold up in them comments I was like God damn man. How can you be responsible for the career of someone like the Brat who at that point in music history was rapping about controversial things had an appearance that was controversial and really did her own thing? How can you now take the perspective of someone who literally is just refusing to see and recognize aww these dope girls that are in the game right now and you say something like that to me? It came off a bit envious <hes> when you have labels like Q._C.. WHO has the rise of the success of the city girls? You know what I mean. <hes> artists like that that are coming up. I think Jemaine Pres envious I do. I think so definitely really hitting on nothing. He'll always be able to write and produce a you know iconic music in the future for artists like usher and Mariah Carey that he has that sort of working relationship and then natural chemistry three with but we don't care what you have to say about. Are these girls that we know are dote. We are here listening to the music buying it. We're going to concerts. We're re tweeting what they put on social media like that's what we on so. Can I say one thing though that that kind of made me feel weird though I hate how people do that thing where like they start mentioning the girls that do rap about their pussy and then be like which you have girls like rap city and you know Sierra wack and we go nasty and I hate that it decrease this division of like the girls who rap about Pussy and the girls who are like what are what are people trying to say like they're not allowed to be sex or they don't WanNa be sexual it Kinda boxes. Everybody ride instead of like allowing people to do that if they want or not. Maybe Tier Wacko flip it on us. One day maybe rhapsody go flu like you don't know and I kinda hate when you get boxing cornered into being like serious or intellectual rapidy rapper backpack rapper rapper whatever the labels are because I think it's it you need to let people have room to wrap around. Whatever the FUCK THEY WANNA rap about WanNa be sexy and then be scared to do that because you can't you know because it's like well? I'm supposed throughout this way at this point is how people view me and then that's what Kinda can stifle creative at some point to when they feel like they have to represent a certain sect of rap yearning which we're talking about rap so this is an art a curation words right so it seems like the more things that you are able to have. Is You know niche items that you rap about. You know what I'm saying. This is what you can kind of style. Your rap toys seems like that'd be the dope thing to do right to pick words that you can really hang with. You know what I'm saying and build a lyrical arsenal around that so why you hating homeboy like what's the problem. Why do you have to be a girl like you said a friend that I think that's the intention though I think they WanNa create that division and now I guess start the narrative and and and get some girls out of the way so that they can push? He probably got some artists that he's about to introduce. You know what I mean. I think it was all intentional. It has to because I just for someone to be as musically talented as he is. I know he can't be that dumb. He k. and it's always been that way. This isn't new it's not new and I think it speaks to how uninformed he is and also how there's a double standard because when I think of so so def I think about all the booty shaking music like that's off top nothing about you know look at them. Girls today's do on like and these are part of the mix is these aren't necessarily songs that were broken but like songs that were kind of the foundation of whistle so that was so ye Germain came out rapping about you know what land on all this other shit but I feel like there was not a it's not even like he was like Oh you know if he was a very informed right. He's talking about how there's only these stripper girls out he would be able to mention the girls that were outback in that weren't stripping and if that even mattered because I guess kind of what your point is issued matter if they were distributing because I wash interview with training issues on there's all these negatives out here rapping about the same oh damn a same old thing whether it's drugs money sex like over and over again and all these little boys out here and they all sound like they sick and sad may all crime they all awesome fucking same and it's like a wave of them is different waves of people. They rap about shit so if there's a wave of growth that wrapped shippers. I don't think there should be anything wrong with that. As long as you know people got good wordplay or they battling Ford or whatever and I think it's a good landscape where we're getting a lot of course music and there were different people. There are those rhapsodies that are out there like I can think about back in the day. When <hes> you know missy was out we also still had <hes> Jay Miss J Ching Ching? I felt like there are people because Miss J you know. Get your big ahead on the floor and how was a moment you know they're just these people that have made music in women have been doing things for so long and I guess now that we're starting to see this oversaturation if you will in one area it doesn't necessarily mean that women can't do other things but I think that it's a good stepping stone especially coming into summer her for us to say why can't these girls be a bunch of like. Why can't we have a bunch of stripper music right before summertime like your fucking pre like Yuk just brought back Freaknik in Atlanta like it's the beginning of summer? It's not like it's cold outside and everybody's depressed and we make nothing but stripper music and it's not even that we're making the music your jemaine debris who've been highlighting like in the same interview where they were talking about. Germania Pre Trina did not are wack was and I thought that was though I don't think you because she didn't. She didn't seem like Nano that was I. She didn't fuck with issues. I fuck the Phillies so like I'm sure like I want to hear that so like I thought it was dope that there are so many people out that you can't even really keep up back. That's how I view that when Trina says she know who's here are some people out there so many girls out you know you can't really keep up with WHO's doing what and what's going on so Germany making that <hes> that Commie. I'm like this is ill-informed like I don't know if because he is where he's at I feel like it's nothing but negative probably been sending mixed tapes forever but back in the day you had Shawna out there along with raw sheet out there and they went rapping rapping about being strippers like Yo she was reading about her. Dan Bubble Gum but Rashid ain't never made no record about being a shipper and even if she did it's like you are from Atlanta so maybe these are all the records at your hearing but like you being a gatekeeper that you are you you can put up an ad or go out and see dote. Women like one thing I like about T- paying T- paint is always represented for the rappers. I don't know what it is like. I remember back on sisterhood of hip. Hop t pain was out there looking inside trying to steal from tank like you know like what's up teammate without a record where young may young may someone we never talk about enough young amazing putting out a fire record after fire record after fire wrecker and she's still not getting the claim. I feel like she's half hour not gay because she's so don't you recall stuff when he called the hefty like this deal goes. Aren't you know what a lot of it has to do with the labels too because they are formula chasers and so if the girl's talking about their pussies are the ones that they keep pushing than suddenly anyone anyone that's not talking about. They're busy doesn't even get an opportunity. They don't get a budget. You know what I mean so that is the bigger problem is not and I even see a couple of will be like yeah but it's we all support. Yes that is a problem too but allow the times the songs songs getting played over and over and over and have the budgets to really knock the you know music videos at the park and even how the artist looks and the money. That's behind him the machine. It's usually whatever the labels WANNA push so my issue is never who's rapping what I don't. I couldn't care less. It's more so when they decide who gets to shine and who doesn't so it's more so the actual gate keepers not J._d.. But the actual gatekeepers that are deciding reading. What's the only rap that we can make popular? That's my real issue. I really don't care what people rapping about yeah. I mean I think rhapsodies super dote but like Rico Nasty is out here though here macy's doing the damn something I've from what I see at least mark perception of issues getting bigger and bigger by the day <hes> Thira wack is huge to every time I mean I don't know the clips on twitter people love her. She's always going viral. I don't know if that's is translating in some money. You have pockets but I feel like it might be a slower burn but she's out here. She's on the lion king the gift album she's on the lion king gift album handpicked by beyond says so it's going to get there but I think it's a gatekeeper problem problem more so than anything else can't even reach t amy talking about the gatekeeper. You can't get none but the doggy door to keep my doggy door for that sounded makes music in this issues the mess and it's been a mess for a long time and if it ain't one thing it's another this is like I remember when I was like the original problem like it was like oh now everybody has to put that music through this like you can only really get music through itunes and then now that we have this whole because whenever I get a record of band camp or something like that is so hard and weird about it at one time at is so hard right. It's so hard we're to like drag and drop it in the I tunes and it almost feels like apple yeah like good as people that like even on soundcloud like those who you have to like import into your shit but I feel like I tunes be trying to make it harder for you to use that type of musical if you didn't get through our platform so it's gonNA sound lower and it's actually this is higher quality than you guys. Provide like a lot of people don't know shit like that. So did they get rid of itunes. They're going to get a split so what happens to all the music. You have my tunes on no mushy better stay right where he said that's. I'm like I was trying to understand how that's GONNA work <music> imagine how much money talk a couple of people twitter bunching when Ozzy couple of people on twitter what is saying that this hawks haven't been working Dan. I'm <hes> I'm like don't play with me and they started that shit when they introduced remember. Everybody's <hes> itunes library was getting compromised when they first introduced apple music so we better not be going back to that. I know times are going back in this country but damn y'all to either way too much music or itunes like that's just not even finding. I'M NOT GONNA lie my leader iphone pretty soon doing that for a year or year. I I haven't seen anything I liked but I've been like have all these APPs on my phone just been playing around with on my. I don't know if I don't like the interface anymore web my if the right that's cool. I think people are androids a coup. I think if the right phone awesome thank you better be own person. I don't care for the blue bubbles. No more people be too demanding. I was in a group text first of all I was in a gun. No Hobby about group techs. I was integral tech's that never showed up as a group text. EXT So like one random number takes me like hey y'all blah blah blah you know why why because somebody in the group headed android but see dog group text me any damn where Saddam grew text me any fucking way so that's a different issue <music> though I literally got like seven different text threads of people that I've never talked to everybody was going to be somewhere else. I don't know what Y'all are talking about where y'all at this is some bullshit random but adding meat to would group chat with people. I don't know don't do that don't do that. That's like don't see bees permission. E._C._C. be asked me hey I'm gonNA create a chat for you. Know this that and the other you don't just add me. Don't just add me. 'cause you know what I'd do adult respond because they can't maintain anonymity and people that don't have your phone number won't notice you oh I leased so intrusive and I agree and to me is also lazy the an impersonal if you're having event where you're inviting people that are context and your phone. The least you can do is stand making personal like that's the least you can do this to protect. You know what I'm saying like make them feel like you're actually inviting <hes> and also keep everybody out. Everybody else's business. I hate that she pays a friend of mine. Did it the other day and just to let her know when she was like messing messes. I never responded and in the end I responded responded to her directly by okay. I'm like why don't know Nazi no girl as to work where she was having like a cookout and so she put me in a group with her her man in like ten other people and I did last group chat like I'll immediately like oh no this is not for me and so then her her man they put me with the man he put me on the side with just us it was a L. C.. Too good for a group chat and I said APPs said black -solutely don't do this to me again am I. We continued on until I left to leave this one too. I'm not playing and groups stressful because through noon you come via phone and it especially because I don't have alert sounds my phone's always on silent song come back. It'll be three hundred sixty five tax like wow somebody died in a bubble still pushing talking about nothing. Sometimes it's fun eye candy to me it depends ours is fun. Yeah I feel like I don't like temporary group chats. I like Basset our long standing you actor in yeah you know but for events special events or like for invitation purposes their bid irritating Alibaba N._B._C. on email is gonna be see. It's very imperative is people don't know the C C in the B._C._C. Right. Be Cool thank you we and that's the worst to now. Everybody knows she always looking to own that can network like no. Don't say me Shit. Oh Hey hello beloved on goodbye house avai random my butt in but you know a lot is going on in the world so we we gotta keep it light to balance these energies 'cause we will we will Chow Chow route chalet. We all need someone to talk to a person who can support us through the rough patches or even the everyday ups and downs of life. 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