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"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

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06:56 min | Last month

"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

"Classic carbon and cocoa. They are online java. Standard edition true type type. One open type. That's all the fun technologies on one apple script color sink yoon apple script. Some four point. That's nice unit code. Best networking median multichannel audio in cd burning. That's just the core technologies the list goes on and there's a little flap on the front that has like introducing was ten. The super modern operating system that delivers the power of unix with the legendary simplicity and elegance of the macintosh Yeah years since they shipped the boxed copy of ten point. Oh it's muddy right. Because in the fall of thousand they shipped the public beta and in the fall of two thousand one. Ten one which i would argue is the first usable version of ten. And we're kind of in the middle of these three anniversaries. But it is the you know. Ten shipped date is is now twenty years ago Here's the description from the press release macos slightly different than the box copies macos. Ten is the world's most advanced operating system compiling combining the power and openness of unix spelled with all caps with the legendary eason use and broad applications base of macintosh and the quote in the pr. From steve jobs. Apple's ceo mac os. Ten is the most important software from apple since the original macintosh operating system in nineteen eighty-four that revenue revolutionized the entire industry. We can't wait for mac users around the globe to experience it's debility power and elegance so he didn't mention its speed stability power had elegance. And that's my memory of ten one right when i wrote the ten one. 'cause i looked it up. I edited are big feature about the public beta macworld back in the day and then from that point on i wrote the review. Basically the feature of every release since then. I have very fond memories. I've lived in my house about as long as ten era. We bought thousand nine hundred ninety nine and and over the years. Every summer i ended up sitting in my backyard under the redwood tree right in about os ten releases like every for twenty years. Now i've been doing that. It's it keeps happening. But ten one you talked about the speed and that was my real clearest memory of the early days is we got to the ten one beta releases and it was literally like. Oh i can use this like i could stay booted into this because the public may even ten. Oh it was more like you booted in there and you're like oh okay. Now i'm going to get some real work done. I'm going to restart back into nine. Let's get out of here. It was slow. I mean i go slow. I think definitely improved it. I still think ten one was too slow. It was not. It was not great but it was usable like you could. You could use it. And i think i started using os ten fulltime with ten one and in this era there was the g. Threes and the fours. And really that you needed to have a g four for it to really feel comfortable. Yeah i had. I forget the exact model but i had. I had a powerbook g three because when when it shipped the twenty year ago this weekend. I was still working fulltime at bare bones. Software makers beat it and i. I guess i was like my work laptop. And i think when i left the job i got it as a parting gift or something. But i had a powerbook g. Three that iran mac os ten on full-time and my home. Computer was a power mac. Ninety six hundred. Three fifty. That i had bought a ninety ninety seven or ninety eight and never was able to run mac. Os ten on. Because the the day originally said you know will qualify and then as the years went on a move. The cutoff date to like g. three or later which was fair. And i don't think i would have installed on anyway. But i had a powerbook g. Three red always ran. os ten. And i had my power my ninety six hundred that ran mac. Os nine and it was a slower computer. 'cause it was older even though it was a fancy pants. You know big ass. Mac powermac from from then but it was at this point four five years old. It was always startling how much faster everything felt going back to it. It just like stunning. Like oh my god. I could just like go through i. I just go through emails down down down loads an email loads and email. I hit new in the window. Opens immediately. And i can start typing. It's a you know it was a weird thing. Know it just. Did you know it worked out. And i'm not even saying it was a mistake. It's sort of you know but it worked out partially because they maybe they had to. Maybe they didn't want to. But they you know they kept mac. Os nine going for a few more years until they had the the ceremonial coffin. Funeral funeral for nine. Yeah the truth. Is that os. Ten transition was a multiyear transition. And not just like from. When they announced that steve jobs coming back in january ninety-seven and he was bringing next step with him and that was going to be the foundation of mac. Os ten which was like. That's the starting gun. Right is january of ninety seven but the truth is that even when they ship the public beta in the fall of two thousand even when the ship teno in the spring of two thousand one and even when the ship ten one in the fall of two thousand one. They weren't really done even then. It was many years like you could really argue that. The public beta and teno and ten one were more for developers right to get all of the software over and prove that there was momentum there to the user and i think honestly part of strategy all along was not that they were gonna make os ten more efficient or did like it got more efficient time. It definitely ran faster over time. But keep in mind that they had to build like all these features compatibility features with the he was a normal undertaking but they also knew that their chips are getting faster and that was the other part of like if we wait. Does out. Eventually this is going to be usable and we got there but it took like what is that like ninety seven all of ninety eight all of ninety nine all two thousand and probably even and one is the finish line. That's almost five years. It's a long time. i mean it. It felt like a longtime as it went along. It feels like a longtime in hindsight. It feels like it would be a long time..

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"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

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06:41 min | Last month

"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

"But yeah he was just like. I'm a business reporter. I was asking a question like he just didn't he didn't even get what it was about. And it turns out he was actually writing a story about the intel inside marketing programs. Really hijacking the whole pr campaign or the whole press conference so that he could write his. He got a question for his story. Which is a classic kind of bad reporter technique. I would say early on rude reporter technique where it's like. Forget about all this stuff. Give me a quote. For my story steve But it was. It was quite a moment and people really thought like is gonna make them put stickers on there and it's like steve jobs is never going to do it he's never gonna do it right on the box. It's just not there. No intel logo anywhere. Not interested right. And i wouldn't be surprised if apple truly paid more per processor because i'm sure until was like okay. You don't wanna put stickers on you. Don't have to put stickers on but if you do put stickers on we will cut five percent of my my understanding is there was like all like marketing money. Were like give you money for your commercials if you've got a little animation. Logo apple is not interested. The the line by the way this is maybe the the best line from the whole thing which is at the end. Steve says we put ourselves in the customer's shoes. And we say what do we want stuck in our product when we take it out of the box and the answer is nothing. Where did you write about this. Was this at macworld. It was a macworld. I put a lincoln are a little notes. You can put still up there. Which is great. They just changed their. Cms over macaroni. And i'm glad all my all my stories i've written in the last twenty years is still there that was from two thousand seven guitar. I you know. I regret see. That's the i regret it to some degree but it also is the difference between where daring fireball is today in two thousand and seven. I would never consider calling somebody like that. If we gotta qna with tim cook and and jaws. And whoever else. I would never consider calling them a jackass it's daring fireball two prominent and i cringe a little bit that i did then but also in two thousand seven during fireball was read by people only by people who knew exactly what i was talking about like. Hey we only have so much time with these guys. Don't don't ask a bad question. But it's not the worst question either and my piece that we can link to basically says although i wouldn't have asked this question and i think it was kind of a dumb reason to ask it. It did get very interesting. Things from steve. Jobs and phil schiller dot. Their product marketing. You know philosophy and like it's really actually quite good and that last line about like what are we want if we were a customer we want stuck on our product and the answer is nothing. It's like yeah exactly so it was in the end. I think it was worth what we got out of it. But it was a moment where everybody's like who who asked that question and the answer. Is it some guy. From the austin american statesman who it was working on a story. Chill out chill everybody. It's why it they don't like to explain themselves. I always think of the line from there will be blood. Where where the daniel day-lewis protagonist x one point says. I don't like to explain myself and that sort of is sort of the theme of the whole movie But apple does not like to explain itself in most cases and it was interesting to hear them. Actually you know the the lack of stickers on the palm. Rest of of a mac book or a powerbook or an ibook or any of the laptops. They've ever made speaks for itself mostly but then to have them actually talk about it actually kind of interesting. Yeah yeah and in the jobs era especially. I think steve jobs really liked the idea. That apple is a black box and you couldn't understand what magic things came out of it and that was it and you didn't do. We're never gonna explain our magic tricks right. No good magician explains their tricks. I honestly feel. I feel like in some ways. It was more of a magic trick. Mindset with steve jobs in that era but that and other ways apple today is even less communicate of about the why of what they do and it's almost like now it's like institutionalized it's cultural as strategic shirl i think i think steve when he wrote the book on what apple's culture was going to be when he came back to apple A lot of stuff that steve believed became part of that culture. I don't think necessarily all of it was good. I think in the bulk. It was good. But i think off of cork's of his personality made it in there and some of that stuff is getting unwound. I think that after steve passed away and katie cotton left apple and and then and now. You know steve. Dowling has left apple. As well like we we're a couple of generations of new apple approach to public communication and You see like your talk show interviews at. Wwe hope we get those again someday. In person like and the podcast interviews they do now honestly for a bunch of us. Podcasters apple is one comfortable with people who are not high level executives talking about products and detail and too i would say more open not wide open. They're all very well trained but more open about some of the thought processes about a product. Like i said well-trained but there's a little more. I feel like they're that they're willing to share. It's very clearly what they're willing to share but there is. I feel like there's more there when we went like a couple of years ago we went to We were in the same briefing. I think or at least on the same day in new york city. And you know phil schiller is there. And he's talking about the sixteen inch macbook pro. And you know. I didn't think i just got a product litany from her. I feel like. I got some philosophy about the product. And what they were going for. That was maybe a little bit more than they would have led out of the box before they still weren't gonna talk about the butterfly keyboard right but you see you've got a little bit more so i think they've they've tweaked it. And i've experimented with that and we get more out of them out of the black box and we used to but make no mistake. It's all intentional. Yeah definitely All right let me take a break here and thank our next sponsor. It's our good friends at hellofresh. 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"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

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05:48 min | Last month

"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

"They're so embarrassed by the the m one max i dunno it just seems it's just sad and i don i would like to see until intel is one of the great companies in the technology industry. They've lost their way. I would love to see them find their way. I would love story where they decide. They're going to have other people's chips and at some point down the road. Apple comes back to them and says we want to make some of our chips here in america. And you know we're using tsmc over here but we're gonna use until for this chip now. I would love to see that but they need to look within themselves for that to happen. I don't want them to fail. But whatever they're doing you know now is not working and this these ads. Don't just why why. Why waste your money i really. I would really like to think that justin long really is making a lot of money from this because otherwise i'm worried that he needs work or something. You know an actor. I don't blame him. I don't blame and they're paying him. Well i don't him you know it's And he does the best with some bad material in my opinion. Here's a very likable fellow. I i do think that somebody raises and i. I didn't really think of it. But i you know if he intends to do commercials as part of his acting career going forward. What does it mean though that if you clearly have exhibited the fact that you might go to the competitor and do an ad that You know you know mean like does it reduce his higher ability to sell coke later on if co casted then worried that as soon as contract is up he's going to go to pepsi and and talk about. How co roger. Teeth out or something. I don't know that seems to happen so infrequently but at the same time justin long at this point is recognizable. Enough that he's he's gonna be hired because people want a. Oh it's that guy kind of approach to their to their ad. He's he's i. I would defer to way an expert on commercial casting and things like that but it strikes me that he's kind of in this uncanny valley now where he's too recognizable to be an anonymous actor in an ad but not recognizable enough to be a celebrity endorser right. He's not matthew mcconaughey. He'd you know picking his picking his nose driving lincoln down the highway and this is a celebrity endorsement ad because he was in those apple ads. So it's rare i. It may be that. It's the rare case where he can get a commercial job because most commercial people are gonna be like well. Why would i pay there. Is everybody's gonna focus on that. It's just long from those apple ads and galaxy quest. And ed right like he's in and die hard movie right like. Oh it's that guy and that's not what you want in a lot of commercial casting right. So i don't know i got paid. He is he. He's likable actor. Who's been in a lot of stuff that i've liked and i'm glad to get paid but yeah it's sad. Yeah and it just comes down to you know you mentioned that. The intel isn't really selling a product and like the original intel inside campaign with the done intend on the little jingle the none of us will ever forget for the rest of our lives. There there was a point to it. I don't know that it was money. Well spent but. I don't think it was money wasted where you know whatever you think of. Competitors like amd there was something to be established for intel saying. Look if your pc doesn't have this badge on it a threat literally stuck on it. It's a second. it's a second computer. This is the best until august for the sticker. It's a symbol of quality right. Don't get a right which may or may not have been true. Arguable right in in the mid two thousand but it was a great ad campaign because it was basically like. Pc's don't have the until label on them are like a crab with a k. No by some crab artificial crab meat at the it smells like a crab You don't get it. It's bad it's bad. Don't get the fake stuff. Get the real stuff like that. I think that was very effective and very smart on their part. Because if i were there competitor trying to make. Pc's with my chips in the might be like. Oh intel like you're making you know valuing us and that was that was a brilliant campaign. And that's why they're all the stickers by the way which is why there was that guy in two thousand seven who was like. Will you put stickers on your max that are running intel and steve. Jobs is like no knows better. I watched it. They laugh schiller laughed. A little bit chillier realized. It's a tough question and any and illnesses jobs and jobs as clearly you can see it on. Chillers pastries like seems going to handle this. Thank god and he's like. Well what can i say. We like our own stickers. Better and that's perfect. Everybody laughed it. Didn't make jerk outta the questioner and it didn't throw intel into the bus by saying we're not gonna put their stickers on our beautiful max back in two thousand and seven. Id constructed this entire thing because if you by the way because you don't get me wrong. We love working within dell. We're proud ship intel products and max there screamers. We'd rather not tell them about the product that's inside the box. Everyone knows we use intel processors and then you said will someone please tell me who asked this question so i can name him jackass of the week. It's like a rare public With steve johnson. Someone asks why are they. Won't booger up their computers with horrid stickers and the answer is it's a guy named bob keefe who worked at cox newspapers and he was very good natured when i when i called him out about that guy but.

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"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

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05:34 min | Last month

"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

"And what's the weather and whatever else you can talk to and it's also You know home kits Hub and the new homepod mini is also has like the thread radio stuff in. That's right. I think you're right. I think that there's a question like what is the actual story of the product and that's the opportunity for the home pot and the homepod mini like in the future for apple is question of like. Where do your products fit in in the home. 'cause there were those rumors originally that the homepod was gonna have a screen on top and it ends up with the sort of like shifty colori thing and i was thinking. What would you put in the screen. But i think you know you can have a protocol to home pod. That was a home kit hub and maybe had an actual screen on the top. So you could tap to turn on something or set a mode or do other homekit kind of stuff and then it was also speaker and maybe it was also wi fi like there's lots of ideas about how you create a home pod product that would be like a super smart home something but Homepod itself never really. It was like a high end speaker. That had syrian it. That was sort of the concept and not sure. That's a focused enough concept. Either i really don't. I don't know i'm sad to see it go. 'cause i really like it i really do i. Actually i bought two more since they cancelled it to get while i could. I really like it. I just wonder if they had gotten the Apple tv pairing stuff right Which you know my pal mike. Early has homepods attached to his apple. Tv and like win it works. It's magical because it's like doing a whole home theater with stereo pair of of homepods. But he says it's kind of unreliable and obviously so late man game that they finally enabled that feature. I wonder if something like that might have been like. Oh you know but this is why you get them that. You won't believe how what kind of sound you get out of your tv when you do this. Which is why you know a couple of years ago. I think i wrote a piece. And i keep running up the flagpole. Which is i wonder if apple combined homemade with the apple. Tv and made soundbar kind of thing that sounded great and streamed everything. And you put it under your tv set. If that would be a more clear clearly defined that would make people say you know you gotta buy this because it sounds so great but that was that was a sort of unique feature that is in those hump but it's too late for that to be a selling point now. It's far too late. I've got. I've got to homepods hooked up to my apple. Tv in the living room. Which is why. I don't have any in the kitchen anymore. i find it. I don't have any reliability issues with the i don't dispute. Mike does but for me it. It is bulletproof it. I've heard it sounds really good. I it it really sounds good and the reasons had two more is the right now. we have. I have a black and a white one. Because that's the only had house and i only hooked it up to try it. I was like well. Let me try this new feature with apple tv. I hooked the two up. And i they sound so much better than the built in tv speakers that we've been using 'cause i got the tv at about a year ago. Be at the beginning. And i had plans to buy a whole. You know some kind of soundbar thing right figure out something good for the think but the built-in lg speakers were like good enough. That did was like this actually isn't too bad compared to what we're used to. And so we sort of went through most of the last year just using those and thinking well once this whole pandemic is over. I'll figure this out and have somebody come in and hook up soundbar. Whatever to homepods sound so great but now we want some stuff on tv show and the tvos stuff still has to go through the tv and everything else. We go through apple tv. I find the apple. Tv stuff sounds so much this is amazing and my wife is like i don't i don't hear the difference and it's like oh you know that's part that's part of the challenge raised for a people. It's like it's fine. And that's like i have find my wife. We have a new echo now in a new echo show but we had the original echo show for a while. Which is the one with the screen. And i would come out and find my wife cooking dinner or something with music playing on it and like i get very home. Odds are right over there. It's just yet. But i'm in the kitchen so i'm listening to this like so it's a terrible sounds better now. The new one sounds better but like she didn't care it was like it's just music in the background while she's cooking and there's the sound of the you know the hood over the stove and the stuff sizzling pan or whatever it's like she didn't care and i think that's fundamentally that's one of apple's challenges with that high end homepods is like most people i think. Yeah whatever doesn't doesn't matter it parlays right into a discussion of what the hell is apple strategy with apple tv. And you. and i've actually written quite a bit about it recently. and think about it a lot but it ties into and i you know what exactly is their living room strategy right. There's maybe a better question you know or or you know they've they've got the computers in your pants pocket down and the computer at your desk or kitchen counter wherever you work down. It's the what you used. entertain yourself. Yeah goal so. I have a theory. I wanted to know what you think of it. Which is i think. Maybe culturally apple has a lot of people apple. Maybe have this roadblock which is but the iphone.

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"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

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06:28 min | Last month

"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

"Hundred dollars on each one of these things. So you know apple's out of touch and story of course it was gonna fail. I think it's way more complex than that. Because that as you just alluded to. That's basically the knock against every single product apple has ever made. It was the knock against the apple two compared to other personal computers it was always been the knock against the macintosh compared to. Pc's it would. It's the knock now it was the knock against ipods right when the ipod came out and in the early days of daring fireball. I made so much. Hey over oh my god. It was so easy and so much fun to write about the dell ditty. I think my headline was wri. Rhymes with diddy. Oh what a great the zun. All of these things. In every time one of these things came out they were always cheaper than the ipod for the comparable specs and pee and all our now the ipod. Now got it now. Microsoft's in the game. Everyone we got him finally got finally got him i. It's the knock against the iphone right for sure. I mean i don't want to. This is not a podcast where we talk about samsung phones but samsung seems to be going through a bit of a rough stretch. Where now they're saying that they they. They might cancel the note which was one of their two flagship lines or at least skip a year and they're they're whatever they call the galaxy s twenty one. Whatever the you know. Talk about product names Not doing that. Great you know in the android world But it's it's only eight years ago. Where the consensus was that. Samsung was going to really made stamp out the iphone in on the market because they you know it samsung and then the rest of the android phones are cheaper and they do the same thing. And who's going to spend all this money on an iphone argument. I think the truth is that apple's apples game is value for money right. It's value for money and when apple fails it's not because the product is expensive. It's because nobody sees why they'd pay that much like versus something else. Like what do i get like. Can you imagine if the homepod come out and the reviews and been like. Yeah i know you can get one cheaper but have you heard these and it wasn't really that it was like yeah. They're maybe a little better there in the ballpark and think you know for the amount of money that you're spending extra you need to feel like oh these are cut above and instead it was like yeah series not that great and the sound is fine but the sonos sound is fine to amazon. Sound is pretty good too and there and people are like. Oh well. I don't really the amazon stuff sounds great. Do i need this. What is the perceived value in as it were spending the extra money on it. And and i think you you end up in in cases where maybe apples instincts are no no but if you listen to these you were there right. You went through this. They had rooms where we listened to. The different sounds different speakers. And they're like can't you tell it's different was like. Yeah i can tell and really knowledgeable reviewers would say yes. They do sound good but the truth is that on their own. Just in a house where you've got some two hundred three hundred dollars cheaper crappy speaker people are like it's fine and that makes it a harder sell so it's that it's a tricky thing of like how do you get people to perceive the improved value and make it worth their money and there are some categories where apple has a much harder time. I think airpods. Max is a real question here like the and i'd say the reviews of airports have been more generous than of the homepod in saying yes. It's expensive but it is better like the noise cancellation is better and it does sound very good And so maybe it'll make it in a way that the homepods or maybe it won't. I honestly don't know and i've never used that product but it is similar in that way and the question is just. Did they put enough value in it. To make people justify spending the money on the more expensive thing is is. Do they feel like they're getting their money's worth and doing that. Yeah airpods are the exception. That will have to go back to in a moment. But i do think that maybe in a broad sense the there is a fundamental difference. Here's my spitball. Theory as to why apple keeps failing with their hi fi systems but succeeding with you know watches phones. Computers is that human beings are in in on the on the whole are far more visual than are all and and people. There's way more people who are willing to spend a premium for thing that looks better and they can see is better than something that sounds better to their airpods are the exception. But i would almost say that maybe airpods success isn't about their audio quality but just the convenience of the overall experience. Well i would also say what is the what is the software you know. The the synergy between software design and hardware design. You get a pay off with something like airpods when you do that. And i think the apples challenge something like the homepod. Is that so much of it rested on siri and and on audio quality which is a harder sell and like again if siri was the best and people are like. Oh yeah. I know you can get these other ones but this is the one with siri like oh well then. I want that one. And they couldn't really make that claim and so that's the soft if software is a big way apple different itself and in this case the user interfaces siri which is not apple at its best really isn't then there behind the eight ball. Yeah and you know. I don't think in the complicated somewhat complicated list of reasons homepod failed. I think the actual objective quality of siri on its own second. It's quality compared to competing products in the space like alexa and google.

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"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

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05:47 min | Last month

"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

"My thanks to squarespace that said back to two old guys talking about old max younger than me so sure. Let me be the same age as you. Now that's great. I love it. I want to preview what i want to talk about later in the show but you and i finished up this great. It is funny. 'cause skype says we haven't talked for four months. It feels like we've talked more recently. The net but we we taxed. You know randomly which is well. But it's also that i've you know. I don't listen to a lot of stuff that i do. I don't listen to my own show. I can't stand it. But you know if i appear on somebody else's podcast listen for a bit or something like that. But i got into listening to the twenty for twenty twenty max things with you and i was like i love all these max and say i'm glad i said good things about them because i have such fun memories of it but you have released a series of three I don't know what do you call them out takes extras. they're like they're basically unedited conversations between you and me. And then i did. I did three with john. Syracuse that you guys talk. The most of anybody. And i felt like in the end. I had three hours of each of you. That was a pretty good conversation that i used a tiny little fraction of in the actual Shows so i release those sort of at the end of the podcast speed and the last one just publicly today right the straight up. Twenty for twenty twenty episodes were tightly. Edited documentary style Podcasts and and really really just exquisitely well done. I say that not just because you're my a my guest today and i want to say nice things about it and not just because i was featured in and a few of them but for enthusiasts of old max or backs period because some of the ones aren't even that old that that made it in It's just really good. But i could really appreciate just how much work went into the slicing and dicing of okay. I'm in the editing room. I've talked to all of these people for all this time and start getting things in together. Like here's everybody talking about the se thirty okay. How do and it's just came out so well and it's like it just came out like butter but the outtakes strategist sort of. Hey let's just shoot the shit for an hour at a time. Yup about it argued to and they're they're they're fun and it is. It is sort of like we were doing a regular podcast like this kind of podcast that it never posted and instead just became raw material for that other thing and that when i got to the end i was looking thinking. Can i do anything. Is there anything extra bonus stuff. And i realized that between you and siracusa. I had like almost eight hours of material that i trimmed a little like john's dog starts barking at a couple of points. And you had to go take care of something in the middle of something and like they're a little bits here and there that i i stepped it's mostly just you know us just talking about those old computers and occasionally like random things you can also see. There's a progression of me explaining what i'm doing in the first conversation. That's like in june and then by november. I'm just a beaten down man who wants desperately to be done but it is. It's it's one of those things that's exactly like mark twain great line about wwe which books are the classics that they're the books everyone wants to have read and no one wants to read. It's like this project is a great thing that everybody We'll be so happy exist for decades to come and that no one would have really wanted to make. Except you thankfully. And i didn't know what i was getting myself into but yeah i i'm happy with right. Yeah you put all that work in and then you look in. You're like oh that's good. I'm glad i did that. But boy during the making of it. I was not glad right. That's the thing to put on the shelf. You know like that is there anyway. I a preview of what will come later on. This episode is i did want to have you. I thought it was a nice book yet. I thought it'd be such a great book end for me and you to talk at length about twenty years of mac. Os ten literally this weekend. probably day. This show's coming out either. The day it comes out of the day after will mark the exact twenty year anniversary of mac. Os ten ten point zero literally hitting the shelves in a box in a box and having talked to you at such length over the last eight months however long since we started that discussion about mac hardware history. I thought it'd be really interesting. Book ended with purely talking about the other side of the coin. The os anyway. That will come But we have some news to cover so one of the things in the last. Few weeks is the rare product cancellation from apple in recent years. The homepod was canceled. In a very sad friday night announcement made to friend of the show. Matthew pans arena at tech crunch. You've got the scoop. It's two in a row by the way because the previous friday afternoon was when they basically can the mac pro and we're recording this on a friday afternoon so i'm a little worried. See we'll break into this conversation about mac. Os ten ten point zero with whatever apple killed this week but yeah this is a bit like a one and done like. Here's the home pod and our goes so the the mac pro is an interesting thing to book. End it with to right because it's that's a very different kind of cancellation..

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"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

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04:12 min | 1 year ago

"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

"The the schedule is in June. They tell us what's in the OAS and they part of the reason they do it at a developer conference is they want developers to start working on these things right that they are announcing API's and features and they want developers to start updating their apps for them so that come fall when these things come out when these os has come out the you know. There's developer support for them. You can't do that if you announce them in August and then the other thing too is. Apple is apple's engineers are all heads down nose to the grindstone July and August. Finishing these things up I mean again. The start of this podcast seems like a long time ago by our current situation. But I think we all remember that. Iowa's thirteen was really rough shape last summer. And you know it really weird fashion where thirteen point zero came out with the IPHONES and was was out for four days before thirteen point one shipped. That's and that's with a quote. Unquote normal. Ww DC at the beginning of June and a full summer of work punting the announcement and the Betas till August it. Just it just wouldn't possibly fly. I mean I guess it's theoretically possible if they're already willing to say the iphone isn't gonNA ship till new. Iphones aren't going to ship until December or January or something like that but I don't think they're willing to say that yet you know it's for the announcement just last week. That foxconn announced that they're actually ahead of schedule. Getting back up to date and you know didn't mention apple specifically you hear Foxconn. I hear Apple Right Right. I wonder if they you know. Obviously they will try and things are going to be weird and things are going to slip and everything's going to be a little bit weird into the future for a while but You know it's hard to believe that the iphone isn't going to be a priority. It does make me wonder. Maybe if they're going to be some things that de prioritized right like their features. That have been rumored that maybe we won't see that they may take a lower priority. Something like maybe even the Mac and say we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA pull back on that. Of course what if this year is the year that they're going to do arm on neck and that was going to be a big thing then you can't really pull back on that all the you might be able to say you know. This isn't really going to ship until next year. And so you've got and take your time or something but they may have to make some tough decisions. Because I think in the end the one thing is nothing is inviolate but the closest you get is getting that iphone out the door and getting an update that goes with it and that they they can't they will. They will prioritize that over everything else I think if they have to. Yeah but I think it's really. I think that that June timeframe for WWe DC WW DC is the traditional in person conferences. We know it. Or whether it's purely virtual including the keynote where even every member of the press is watching the keynote from home over the web and nothing is done in person. It's June is sort of set set in stone and I think they could definitely push it to the end of June and again like you. You've made this point a couple times. I think already in the last couple of minutes is that if need be they'll cut features right but I yeah but I think cut features or they might even do a little prayer prelude and say here are some features that are going to be in here. They're not all going to be in there because we already know that they kicked things out the last couple of years. Let's say it up front like these are the features were working on. They're not all going to be in the developer Beta. They're not all GONNA ship in the fall but they will ship in the next twelve months. And just move on and everybody's GonNa understand right because we're all we will all have just been through this for the past several months and know that nothing is quite like what it used to be. Yeah all right let me take a break before we wrap up and let me thank..

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"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

The Talk Show

11:51 min | 1 year ago

"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

"He was absolutely a believer that everybody had to be in the same place at the same time right and that doesn't mean they're all in the same building their way too big now the the pretty much the entire city of Cupertino now is office. Buildings owned by Apple. I mean really. I mean it's it for those who drive drive down there sometime and there is an apple logo on almost every corner including across the street. Which really just didn't used to be the case and buildings. There were buildings like that. Looks like you know they. There was like this great expansion in late eighties and early nineties. And you know in that era when Steve Jobs was in exile and you can kind of tell because like the architecture of the building yes very not I can spot. I can spot a late. Eighties early nineties apple building a mile away. We had one San Diego not too far from where I went to college and I had the little apple logo on it and you know one thousand nine hundred one or whatever and all of them look like that and they're a bunch of those in Cupertino for sure but then there's some weird ones now to like ones that are like there's no way that's an apple building and then there's the drive by there's assigned they've least all the space. There is to lease in Cupertino and then built a giant campus and across the street from the giant campus. I don't know if people know this one of the funny things about it as apple already had buildings on that street where the visitor's center is Most of the buildings across the street That are south of the visitor's center toward the freeway. Those are all apple buildings that have been there awhile and then if you go under the freeway there there's the old mole that they wanna redevelop and part of the things they want to redevelop that into is more office space. That apple wants so they are they are basically the motto is. If you're in California you're in Cupertino and if you if you aren't you know your your organization is all in one building that and if you need to talk to somebody else's organization you go go go to a different building. Everybody is together. That's what James Thompson famously was given the ultimatum that he had moved from Ireland to Cupertino if you wanted to keep working on the Mac Os. Because Steve didn't want the developer of the duck to be in Ireland. He wanted him to be in California. Yeah that's not to say everybody's in Cupertino either I know apple is growing footprint in Seattle. Sure they've I don't know if they're still there. I remember like the I. Works team used to be in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh. Yeah right but the I. Works team was in Pittsburgh Right. It wasn't like Oh. Yeah you know you can you. If you'd like to come work on I works. You could work in the Pittsburgh office or you could work in Seattle. Come to Cupertino if you want to work on cloud you go to Seattle if you want to work on. Tv You go to La if you WANNA work on. I work you go to Pittsburgh. And if you WANNA work on MAC OS. You're going to be seated in Apple Park. It is a face to face collaborative culture. What for better. What did they do right well? So there's two levels to it the first level and I have to admit the day I think you're talking about the Wall Street Journal story from the other day about the problems you know. I'll have it written down so I'll I'll remember linked. I've thought about just cultural part of it that they're just not. They don't have tools for remote collaboration within the within a very close knit team a they just don't have the culture of it and the Journal story brought up though is that there are just policies and rules about it that you see for example. You can't bring hardware out of the building without of these. You know famously. Every you know we know these stories from the iphone. Iphone was really superseded vault but hardware doesn't leave certain for sure clocked closed regulated doors. But what if what you're working on requires you know you're you're a software engineer and you need to build and run but you need to build run on hardware but if you can't take the hardware out how you know. There's no way to do that and think about things like you know. I'M GONNA make up some numbers here. But whether certain animation for transition should be three hundred milliseconds or five hundred milliseconds and you build both and you look at them. Well how the hell you do that over. A remote video conferencing all right how. How does a team? That is sweating the details. On how many milliseconds an animated transitions should be do it? When they're used to doing it on the actual prototype or even if it's not a prototype hardware even if it's just an animation for a new thing that's going to run on the iphone eleven but you're there together as a team looking at so the hardware isn't secret. It's just an I. Four just testing on the iphone eleven which is already out but the software is secret and the animation in terms of what it looks and feels like is right there in your hand in front of your eyes and now you're supposed to do it from home and the person demoing it to us doing it over a video conference. Well how in that that's running sixty hertz or something like that sixty frames per second or or less. It's impossible it's impossible to make that sort of judgment call over a teleconferencing link. No matter how good your band with this? You know to your home so I don't. I don't think it is speculative at all to suggest that this is going to be disruptive to the development of everything apple has been planning for the entire year software was and it's not to say that they couldn't do it but it is to say that they. I think have not built up any. I don't know but I'm going to guess they've built a very little that allows them to do it in these cases where you gotta be there. Because why would they? I mean other than to do disaster contingency planning which living in California. You should probably do any way and were questions about like with the fires. If the air quality wasn't going to be good enough there all of these other issues out there so maybe they've got some plan for it but clearly it's a hindrance even if it isn't a full stop even if you bring people in in shifts or or spread them out send some groups home and have other people come and sit apart or however you wanted to do it. It's GonNa be a a serious hindrance to your collaborative environment you built up and and that's why I feel like when we talk about. Ww See this happens with everything with the virus is. You don't realize the assumptions you're making until you hit one of them and you go you know and ww. Everyone's like Oh what if they don't have like literally what if they don't have developed builds? What are they aren't far enough along in development to know what they have confidence in mentioning a keynote because they're not far enough along to know whether they they think it's ship or not right? No I may be the case. I think it's definitely and the the other side of not wanting to announce a keynote date is the actual. You know preferring to have an audience of some sort. Even if it's a Steve Jobs theaters sized audience retrial. Like roughly thousand people instead of a five or six thousand. Person Cavernous San Jose Convention Center audience. Apple likes audience. They love they love to have an audience for keynote. But what if it looks starts to look like? It's practical safe. Totally safe. Fine idea to do it but probably not until the end of June. Then you know I think apple would absolutely want to hold it until the end of June. Yeah to have a live event and feel safe good about it so I wouldn't be surprised honestly the more I think about it. I would not be surprised if the date for. The keynote is literally not announced until like most apple events. Maybe a week tour before. Yeah and if I was sitting in that meeting with Phil Schiller and his team and developer relations and all of those people. I think the argument I would make is why we don't know how quick look how quickly this moving we don't know where we're going to be. Why why announce a date? When we really aren't sure why do it? Why and I get that. There are people because I talked to a couple of them on twitter. Who like are planning I if they're planning a vacation for June and I'm like you may not be taking that vacation but secondly like if you're planning time off work so that you can stay home and consume all the videos and like I get people WanNa plan but your plans are in question. Their plans are in question like their. Why pick a date? If you really don't have confidence that you can hit the date and I don't see how any of us any of us in the entire world can have confidence in something like that right now because it's moving so fast and if you're in charge of a big complicated system with a bunch of employees because like we haven't even started to talk about what you do bring in your employees and your key. Os Engineers all get corona virus right and and twenty percent of your engineers are laid up in bed with a fever and breathing problems and we have to go to the hospital. That's also what you don't WanNa have happened so who can tell like I. It's a why why commit to anything right now. They committed to the important thing which is yes. We're going to develop resources and call it W WDC and they'll be videos and it'll be it'll start in June like maybe they should even said summer. Well the I think the reason that they said June. I think the reason they committed to June is and I'm glad you said that because a couple of people a lot of people Who Listen to the show or read the site of pointed to that I think two thousand and six wwe when they postponed it until August and thought. Hey that might be. Why not just punt a couple of months? That wouldn't work for apple anymore. No iphone assuming the iphone ships in September right. You can't have your os unveil beat a month before the phone ships and even FM. I guess we can get to that but even if the IPHONE doesn't ship in September. It's still apple's going to want to get back on the schedule. Once this clears up you know even if it takes a year you know that back in those pre iphone days apple I wanted I think apple always wanted to be on this roughly annual schedule. It always seemed like they were working for it and they were just resource constrained and they you know you get better at what you do right in and a year after year. They've gotten better at it. But you know there were gaps but you know early years of Mac. Os Ten was rough roughly annual and then it kind of got knocked off the annual. You know sometimes area eighteen months and then when the IPHONE was being worked on they famously had a announcement that hey we've you know we had a date for the next version of MAC OS TEN. But we've pulled key engineers off to to work on this iphone the first version of the IPHONE. So we're going to have to move this back six months. They're gonNA WANNA stay on this annual schedule and part of Apple's annual schedule is getting the the schedule is in June. They tell us what's in the OAS and they part of the reason they do it at a developer conference is they.

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"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

The Talk Show

11:35 min | 1 year ago

"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

"Let's get it over with. I mean there's a lot to talk about here and there is an awful lot since the last time. I did a show which was only like do weeks ago. We went from from ME IN FEDERICO. Talking about I think I gave the odds then at fifty fifty that we would have W W DC. But I'm maybe I'm giving myself too much credit and I thought it was like a one in three chance that WDC was not going to happen And of course as we now know W. WDC is as we know it as an in-person five thousand attendee. Can Congregation of the entire apple community is not going to happen And as we record today on Monday that is the most obvious statement in the world. Two WEEKS AGO IT WASN'T. It seemed a little outlandish And even when apple made the announcement last week they were still slightly ahead of the curve. Right it didn't you know it was. I don't think anybody was surprised by that point but it. It seemed like the writing on the wall. Yeah Yeah it was. I feel like we progressed. Very quickly from it might not happen to it. It probably won't happen to its. They've certainly decided it's not going to happen. But they haven't announced it yet which the Nice thing about that is by the time. They made their announcement. I feel like everybody already like it was a foregone conclusion. I may set it. Yeah we had already passed the pass to the point of acceptance in the stages of grief. I kind of feel I have no inside information on this whatsoever but I kind of feel I one thing I am certain of and this isn't from inside information it's just knowing the way apple works is that they were on top of this for a long time and their public silence on it is a reflection of. That's that's how apple is about everything. Apple isn't doesn't doesn't Apple. Measure one hundred times and cuts once they they were monitoring this their silence on it and the fact that they didn't announce anything officially until last week wasn't because they weren't paying attention or were taking it lightly. It was that they you know they take their time. I can't help but feel and the weird thing about this is that ww DC. I don't know if there are. I'm not aware of any other conferences of similar size that I would know about that are always every year annually announced with so little Time between the announcement of the dates and The selling of tickets. You know or now lot lotteries. You know to get for ten days to sign up to to go and the conference. Most conferences are announced at least a year in advance. So that you know mackerels a great example. You'd be leaving macworld. Expo and the signs at the door would say you know next year. January fourth to ten death macworld next year. You know And most conferences are like that. You know W W has always been unusual in terms of having getting announced mid March to mid April. I think mid April about the latest. They've ever done it. You know even though. I think they've gone to late April but not much more than that but you know other than one exception from two thousand six. I believe when it was in August. It's pretty much been like clockwork you know. I don't think I've been wrong in ten years at guessing which week in June was going to be W. WDC week This week this year is a little bit. It's always June. It always starts on a Monday This year is a little harder to predict because June. I is a Monday but I think that you know the use. By the usual scheduled the start would have been June eighth and June was pushed back just a little bit. One more day definitely would have been that that that second the Mondays starting the second week of June But so all of these other conferences that have been canceled and every tall. It's funny because not every can't conference has been cancelled I saw there was like a construction big hundred thirty one hundred thirty thousand Attendee Conference in Las Vegas last week. That wasn't canceled. But got nowhere near hundred. Thirty thousand attendees Yeah they have you know they. They were cancelled his absolutely the right verb for what happened because they were scheduled and then they were cancelled. Wabc wasn't canceled because it was never announced right right. So what they did do was they. They made an announcement last week that WDC will have a all new online format But they didn't give in didn't even give dates which reading between the lines to me says they weren't quite ready to announce it. I whether they would've are you know whether it would have been announced by now in the alternate universe where this corona virus didn't even exist? I don't know but I feel like as they made their plans for how they do this online. Only you know or online. Perhaps plus a small media event for the keynote. Although I think even that is looking less and less likely even now in mid March I feel like they were they. Were looking at the news and thinking. We can't wait anymore. You know like if if if you and I were talking right now. On March sixteenth and apple still hadn't said anything it would seem absurd right. It's so I feel their hand was pressed to at least come out and say. Ww DC is going to be June. It's going to be online only in an all new format. We have lots of stuff. Were excited to tell you. And we'll tell you more soon but I feel like the fact that it doesn't even have a date for the keynote to me. Says that they kind of felt like the news even even with their silence. The news was getting ahead of them on this corona virus. I think you're right and I think they decided that it was that they didn't need to make an announcement with specifics just yet but they needed to at least be clear that this was the case that it was. They had reached the point where they really need to say. Of course. We're not going to do this but we are going to do something online. And we'll let you know I was struck by the fact that not only did they not give dates but they say beginning in June and it's sort of like starting June whatever it is and it's like okay well so we got a month. Which is June? It could be the first week but it could be the last week and then starting in June I I immediately thought. And when does it end like they could completely reconsider this thing where? There's a big kickoff sometime in June. And then there are new sessions that rollout across the whole summer even not necessarily all there on day one or even over the course of a week. I think that that would be the closest analogue and it might be what they prefer to do. But they're not really committing to that they could stretch this out and and have W. W. C. B. This thing that happens over the course of you know eight weeks if they wanted to or or summer the one thing that really matters timing timing wise but you know as a mark your calendars this is an event is the keynote the public keynote. The thing where they may be announcements. They would've made on Monday morning. Which is meant for everybody from developers to the mass market? Not even technical media you know and apples. Wwe's get coverage on the front page of newspapers and again. I realized being on the front page of printed newspapers. Nowhere even close to what it used to be but even if you talk about newspapers like The New York Times and the Washington Post and San Francisco Chronicle and whatever else there's above above you know I screen NY TIMES DOT Com. It's the same idea. Is that you want to get that. That kickoff event is the one that everybody covers and it has broad appeal and everything else is for the developers. Basically right but I can't help but feel that it's part of the calculus of not even announcing the date for that yet is of not no. I mean this whole crew. Corona virus thing is so up in the air I mean and maybe there's an optimistic scenario where we go through a bad April and But then we start getting on the downslope in. May and maybe it's not re- it's obviously never going to happen. That they're going to have five thousand people in giant convention room for a keynote. But maybe you know maybe the idea. Is that a a media. Event at the Steve Jobs Theater with a couple of hundred. I don't know I mean at this point. It sounds outland. I I do think that. Maybe they're holding out hope that Things will have calmed down to the point where they might be able to have a small crowd in the Steve Jobs. Theater for that keynote. Instead of it being like a like Stephen Colbert John Oliver. Last week there shouting into a void. And there's an empty theater right. I do also think one part of the hedge has to be when you you can't do. Ww DC. Unless you've got your new operating systems ready to go. You know the scope of them. You know what's new you've got stuff ready to show to developers you've downloads. Ready to put up. And that's the other part of this one of the stories we've seen in the last few days because this is moving. Fast is a developer's internal to apple but because of the security restrictions on apple stuff either unable or it's very difficult to work at home on top secret apple stuff which is kind of a no brainer. But at the same time. Like if you're trying to get new versions of MAC OS and and watch OS TV OS AN IPAD. Os All ready in a developer version to drop the first week of June and suddenly. You're trying to get them all to work from home or they can't all be in at the same time or whatever it is. It really calls into question the ability to S- to to stay on schedule and that's the other part of this is like what if they don't have a. Beta what if they don't feel like they they might not be able to announce until the end of June if they slip three or four weeks right. All of that is up in the air right that this may not go. It's not just the gathering issue it's also the. Who's working on the software issue? Yeah and there's there's actually so there's two sides to that so one may be inside apple the because of this work from home being a serious disruption to the way apple works. I mean more than any company. I'm aware of in the tech sphere and this is no surprise to anybody who's listening to this show at apple has a culture of being onsite face to face with the piano. You work with APPLE STRAIGHT STRAIGHT FROM STEVE JOBS. That was he..

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"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

The Talk Show

12:12 min | 1 year ago

"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

"I guess again I guess it predated daring fireball because that was all I tunes came out in two thousand or two thousand and ten thousand. I came out right because the IPOD came out in two thousand and one all. I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of dates. But I you know famously. Remember that because the ipod announcement was postponed and was low key because it was after in the aftermath of nine eleven which has been on my mind a lot lately because I keep thinking what we're going through right now. The only comparison I can think of in terms of just the general uncertainty that every single person is experiencing right. Now is only comparable to nine eleven. And I know it's different in a whole bunch of ways but in just in terms of general uncertainty boy I remember that anyway that was all before daring fireball but the thing I remember and boy I wish I had been writing during fireball so I could point to was how emblematic of the difference between windows and Mac the difference in the quality of those weird custom you is was between sound jam and Audie on on the Mac versus went amp and I forget which one it was if it was sound Jim or audience that eventually supported win format so that you think sound jam. Let you use amp skins actually. Yeah and that sort of made sense because even though sound jam is the one that apple acquired and turned into tunes And still lives on. Today is the in two ways I guess as both the The music APP on Catalina and the TV APP on Catalina are both sorta forks of I tunes which was apples rebranded single skinned of course Version of sound jam right but the you know no surprise and both technically excellent and I guess I should. It's time to put a Lincoln to cable. Sasser is right up of when apple reached out to panic to think about you know the Ravi. They apple at two choices of things to buy and they were both very good options. And you know apple considered buying panic just to get audience. But I at my recollection was that while both were technically excellent especially given the constraints of the classic Mac. Os is absolutely insane to have background. Mp three players and like invisible transparent windows stuff like that like there was no support us for transparent windows and somehow they made at work and they just did a They just blog post about finding all the faces of audience. All those customers things as part of the cause. Panic has a podcast. Now Right I've been on and yeah. And and KRISTA MERGEN is is producing it and they didn't episode about audience. And then they did a thing about how they had to dig up all of their old skins and find a way to make them display properly. Which is really fascinating to that. Decca spelunker through twenty year old stuff. I will link to that noted but anyway I my hunch my my gut feeling and I think most people would agree with that. The skins for audion were slightly more exquisitely designed ones for sound. Jim No surprised coming from panic whose forte exquisitely pixel perfect chefs. That is the state of the art in user interface. Design right now sort of work and in the win APP stuff was like it was pretty much like the Vegas Strip like the bad of it flashy for sure. Not necessarily what you'd call dutiful. Yep what else I got more. Follow up Look you yeah one more. We were talking about this story Gherman report about apple perhaps. Do you know and file this under non sarcastic finally Allowing third party default APPs on IOS. By which we mean. Let's say you use spark or you use a g mail the g mail APP as your main email client. You could though the idea would be. You could say this is my main email client and so if you click a male to link in any APP it would open g mail or spark or whatever it is that you've said this is my main email client as opposed to Apple Mail and you could say Chrome is my default web browser. And so you open a web link anywhere that opens in your browser would open and chrome. It's so forth the angle on here that I need to follow up was with regard to I said something. Effective apple doesn't really have a financial angle here. Whatever their their many reasons and I defended it in some ways that it's not as much of a no brainer as some people would think especially people who like us who use third party apps in a really you know right about them and enjoy hearing about them and know developers of them and are enthusiastic about New Third Party. Apps it's easy to get caught up in enthusiasts and think this is just totally frustrating. Bs that apple doesn't allow you to set these things. As your default for these handlers. But it's you know I it requires nuance to think about. Why Apple might not have done it? It's not quite just in. It's definitely not indifference and I don't think it spite but the one thing I said was something to the effect of that don't really have a financial interest in it. It's not like when you use Apple Mail instead of the g mail APP. That apple profits from that. The thing that I over looked and I knew about this. I've known about this for years. Ever since it started. Is that the Safari. Versus other browsers thing is There's a lot of money involved And the thing I got hung up on. Was that even with third-party browsers you have to use web kit as the rendering engine and so in some extent. Even if you're using chrome or you're using fire Fox if you're using it on IOS using this far rendering engine web kit under the hood the difference is and it is a lot of money is that Google is at pays apple a ton of money to be the default search engine in safari. So when you go up to the location bar and you type Corona virus symptoms and hit return and it goes to Google by default and return search engines. The most recent information I've found. Did you update this? I don't know if you know this is this. Is Your your link? The twelve billion estimated twelve billion dollar check rhythm from Google to apple in two thousand nineteen. Yeah so and you know I would presume shifting away things have gone that it's only gone up since then and nobody really knows. I don't believe this has been confirmed whether this was the sourcing on. This will reportedly pay pay this. According to business insider it's comes from Goldman Sachs analyst Rod Hall. Rod Hall is actually a very good analyst. Yeah he gets on the apple analyst calls so they don't think he's a a rogue element or anything you think about it it's like it's like having Amazon affiliate fees or something like their search engine. Affiliate relationship and apple gets paid by Google for all of those search referrals and I'm sure if they were duct go searches duct go would pay something to accept. They wouldn't and they'd go out of business or whatever. I'm sure Microsoft would pay with being right. It's it's a they're sending business google's way And and they get paid for it. Which is there's an argument to be made that maybe apple should use something like duck duck go or apple should buy duck duck go and have it as neutral search engine that isn't tracking people. But that would be not just a nice move for consumer as they would be turning their back on billions of dollars a year if they did that right. So if we take rob hall's number at an again you might imagine that this is the at negotiated at the very highest levels of apple and Google. I I would assume eddy. Cue and Tim Cook are directly involved. I don't even know you know I. I don't know who the equivalent would be at at Google but you know. Twelve billion dollars is even by apple standards is a lot of money And it you know I don't forget it but I think I often I don't. I don't know that I bring it up enough. It is it does sort of it. Is it worth even more than an asterisk? It is A. Don't forget. Raise your hand. Don't forget about like when Tim Cook. Talks about apple having different Priorities in terms of privacy and he has even mentioned Google by name as a company that has by apples from apple's perspective lesser places a Lesser Priority on privacy of customers at that Apple. Isn't you know when they're taking twelve two or plus billion dollars a year to keep google as the default search engine in safari on all of their platforms. They're they're they're getting a pretty nice piece of that Pie and they're you know I. I don't think they're absolve in the least from all of the privacy implications of that. I mean if you're taking the money then you're you're on the hook for all of all of that and even even if you're you know limiting your disclosure of what you know and personalized information on all of those things which they have rolled into safari in in the end. You're still sending them to a Google page. Google knows your Ip address unless you're using a VPN. They can build a profile. They are going to show you ads. All of those things are still a part of that experience. You could argue that. Google is still also the best search engine experience and that's part of the argument. I've been using duck duck. Go ON MY MAC FOR AWHILE. And you know what? It's okay but there are moments where I have to. Just go to Google to find something because duck DOJ just can't quite do it. Google is slicker. It's it's very it's a good product but it's also it's Google. We all know what that means. It's definitely you know a complicated decision. But you know and part of the reason I I've been using duck go for years now enough as my default for enough years and for most times IT I. I'm not doing it despite myself. It's not like I'm you know living in a shack out in the woods. You know cutting my own buttering my own animals that I've caught in a trap. Duck duck go is very good search. Engine and if Google didn't exist and duck duck go where the best search engine we had. Today we would still all be raving when we really honest about what a marvel you know one of the great marvels of the current of the modern world. This search engine is that we can type these things and get the result but there are times there are definitely more times than vice versa. By far that you might type X Y Z. Expect to get a certain result and duck duck..

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"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

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15:01 min | 1 year ago

"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

"More my thanks to Leonard for continuing to support the show. Yeah let me think. Last time I was here we were talking about your The all of our various movable type problems involving moving to new servers and things like that and linens great though that's where minus two. I've got an old server there on an old version and a new server there. That's going to run the new version and it's a whole whole thing. That feels like a long time ago. Yesterday feels like a long time ago. I know all of our jokes about how every week was a month. It's like every hour a month now. I guess before we move on. I gotta get this out of the way because it's actually a couple of weeks old a couple of episodes old I've got I've got followup. This feels ancient. This feels like something from like the nineteen eighties at this point. I don't even remember. What the hell episode. We were talking about this on but in the context of Sherlock in here. I don't know if I don't what was I talking about? What the idea here is that? Is that sherlock like that? Watson Sherlock came out and the truth is there was a sherlock before I ran and Watson. The idea was that Watson was going to amplify apple. Sherlock what happened is that in Sherlock three NAFTA. I'm reading your notes here but that that was that big moment where like because the whole idea of sherlock three was that there were these templates. It was all these smart templates and that was what Watson was was smart tempted search and things like that to make it more than just sort of a a basic find utility and so it'd Boomerang back around whereas like Watson Sherlock Begat Watson and Watson was like Sherlock only better and these sherlock sherlock suddenly got all the features that Watson had. Yeah and I think that might have been episode with malts but but I I had forgotten that in the context of our community verba buying sherlock to mean when apple comes in with a built in feature or utility that obviates all or even just significantly part of a third party utility. We call it sherlock and because of this thing was sherlock in the Third Party. App Watson. The thing I had forgotten was yet exactly what you said. Apple had a thing called Sherlock I but it was really just sort of like like what we now call spotlight. Sort of. It was just like I mean it was basically like a find command for the Internet. But we're we do a an internet search or a search on your Mac but it didn't have all of the like template search templates where you could search for a very specific thing and get a specific result bat. Yeah and Watson dead and have him come back in a very structured format like exactly searching for weather. It came back in like a widget in the window that looked weather results and therefore devi page would come back right Ed and it would write them in and Watson and then later insurance you could actually write a search query where you basically said if put this here's the URL and here's how you parse the result and display it and it was a whole thing that was very clever and you know we can argue about whether it was also my memory at the time is that it was also fairly clear that that was the direction apple's product was going in and just because Watson existed didn't mean that suddenly apple couldn't take their product and the direction that you needed to go in but that was the origin of it. Yeah but it's funny that I didn't remember the sherlock one and two part of it even though it would have been it makes no sense for the first product to be named Watson. Also that what a burden that would be if they if apple steals your product and also deems that something that just references your product right worse it did it did set off a sort of a when I was talking about it. Live on the show. I definitely was like. I don't think I'm getting this right. Because that doesn't make sense that seems way too gratuitous. Yeah cheap shot. Although I guess the closest they ever got to that was with the confabulation thing with. What was apple's recall is right but the thing that was sort of the naming was similar was so for those who don't remember back in around the same time know pre iphone probably so probably circa two thousand and four. There was a third party. Utility called confabulation with a K. Here I'll put it. I'll write this down here. there's a there's a nice daring fireball post about that. Yeah there's definitely a nice. Df Post. Actually I'll probably have to link to it because probably anything related to the actual confabulation is four zero Ford now Other than a handful macworld still around tidbits is still around. She's just about anything else is probably Ford but anyway. Third Party utility. Arlo rose and I forget who else was was behind. It was sort of a two person thing it was kind of really neat. Really need idea where you would use. Xml To specify what they call gadgets and then a gadget would be like a little window like a little just a little You know if you know if you remember Dashboard widgets in an APP. You know collaborator gadgets. Were sort of the same thing. I think that what old the old post says a confabulation had widgets and apples. Call them gadgets and then when they ship them call them widgets so it took it over completely took the name. Yeah well widgets better name anyway. Which is no surprise at the first one used it rather than because they're not gadgets their widgets there's definitely a difference anyway. Both of them were need ideas. Dashboard was built on. Html CSS Java script. I guess can fabricators scripting languages javascript. But the specification accustom L. thing. And now that I think about it. This is my my. Let's that's modernized with the Sherlock and Watson and the gadgets in widgets and confabulation the DASHBOARDS. All of that was all desktop stuff because there was no iphone yet. We were a couple of years away from the iphone but it all sort of in hindsight pre staged the current world. Where on phones and I think to a great extent to definitely ipads on mobile applications native applications dominate usage and the mobile using the web in in in a web browser. is a minority. I just saw some statistic. Somebody pointed to a talk from Google engineer. Who who claimed and this is. I gotTa talk you know but that that according to Google statistics something like only eleven percent of time spent on mobile devices is in a is on the web I don't know I mean for me. It's definitely higher because I sit there and read stuff on the web all the time but but I believe it you know and and I think it's you know I don't know how Google measures it because an a ton of my time on the web on. My phone is in tweet. Bot so I'm on the web but I don't know because I'm in tweet bought whether that is registered with Google is. I'm on the web or you know. And if I'm not on a Google website house Google measuring it. I guess the whole bunch of sites have google analytics hooked up. I don't know but it all rings true though. If you just think about how you use you know I use apps you know way more than it used the Web. And that seemed to me. The whole. Point of Sherlock and Watson and collaborator and Dashboard was hey native stuff is cool and from an interface. Perspective is better and more convenient than always having to go to this browser. App and opening. I guess we did. I don't even know if we had tabs back. Then was just dozens and dozens of windows with one webpage in them. I think also suggested the suite solution that we got when the iphone out right of being able to sort of save web pages and instead of having apps there was sort of like Web APPs and it was very much the same kind of like well. A webpage with Java script is kind of like an APP and that was in the water. Obviously because here in two thousand four the same. That was what dashboard and can tabulated were as use web technologies to build stuff and now now we have the equivalent of that for things like my slap that I use every day is with web technologies right. It's not it's not a native APP and it has it has benefits to the developer largely and a cost to the user largely but Is it the same kind of push and pull in like the beauty of of the dashboard? Stuff back in the day was all you needed to know was Java script. You didn't need to know everything that goes into building a native APP and that that was there trying to find a new a new place for people who wanted to build stuff on the platform to go. Who had this background in web technology but didn't have it in in building APPs but the iphone changed that really. Fast the outdoor. Yeah and yeah. I definitely think that there was that sentiment of hey we can do. We can give so the web is such A. It's such a tremendous step forward in terms of its openness fundamental openness and that it's inherently cross platform and it was largely a boon to apple because prior to the growth of the web in the explosion of the web in the nineties when that was literally the explosion of the Web coincided with. Apple's resurgence after they acquired next and they go hand in hand because part of the reason apple was suffering so much in the mid nineties. Was THAT WINDOWS. Had become so dominant that everything that was all software that was being not also for but you know like when. Napster I came out. That was a huge thing. Napster was a windows APP and the MAC APPS at first. We're like master. I mean there were. It was like a sort of semi open protocol but new stuff happened and it was windows. Apps and in side You know like a big corporations when they made in house applications they they were making windows apps and so you know there was no way to sort of have A. Hey this department can use MACs and that department can use windows. It was like everybody how to use windows because some of the tools that the company had were windows only and when the web came about. And you know it was possible to make web APPs for everything all of a sudden you could use a Mac and you could use windows in. You could log onto your Internet. Remember that word but it was. You know it instead of windows being dominant. Because it was ninety. Five percent of all computing devices the web was dominant because it was literally one hundred percent of competing devices right it it was unimaginable at one point to think that there would ever be this platform that would have greater market. Share the windows but it was because it was like a Meta platform could run any right right But at the other hand the downside to it was man in the user experience just like clicking on buttons and filling in text forums and text editing. And you know just everything was like just this huge crude step backwards because everything was sort of a crude lowest common denominator experience right. It's come a long way in some ways in terms of how polished you can make the experience but the gist of it. I think you know the sentiment behind things like confabulation and Sherlock and Watson Etcetera. Was that man we could make. There's so much better and with collaborator. In particular most widgets were very small. Like just little like index card size if not smaller like when you open the calculator. App or peacock from our friend. James Thompson Right. You get on a Mac. You don't get it doesn't take up your full screen because it's just a calculator. It opens a window. That's the size of a calculator right. Which is exactly very useful and especially with a desktop monitor where you can really arranger windows just so you can have a little window off to the side for thing that only needs a little window like why in the world if you just want to have the with the weather open. Would you need to open a new web browser window which is going to default to the size of four height of your screen size of a piece of paper when all you need is the temperature you know you just need a little a little widget right so I thought that was? I thought one of the mistakes apple made with dashboard was by putting them. All on the one member used to have to go to the left. It was like well. What's the point right if I just want to have a little weather thing? Why can't I have the little weather thing right there with all my other windows in my main space. I'd love to know. Why Apple did it that way. 'cause I follow. It was a terrible mistake. I almost wonder whether they did it. That way as a courtesy to confabulation because doing it the other way was the way. Confabulation did it. Where the gadgets were interspersed with your regular windows and there was a work around where you could like pick up a dashboard widget and then hit the hot key to close dashboard and then it would stay out of debt dashboard layers so they could run outside. But I think you know maybe apple just didn't want to mix and match your right. The whole appeal was that there were these little things right and then they all lived on their own. Full screen layer. Who we're going to spend time on confabulation That was that was the interface of the fabulous confabulation. Her which was also they were often very bizarre really reminded me of the era of MP three players like panics player and sound jam and all that that had these super weird and it was. It was an era. That era was the time where people like created like photoshop files with weird interfaces and thought they would try them out and then I think in the end. They were fun but not necessarily functional. Yeah what was panics was audion says I on and sound jam and And what was the big one a win amp was on on window right and it was always to me it. That whole era as well..

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"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

The Talk Show

12:02 min | 1 year ago

"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

"It's not a suburb of New York. But we're in New York's orbit And having New York go first last night really would have given a lot of cover to me. I if I were the mayor of Philadelphia. I would've I would've done it last night after New York did it. Even if I was on the fence once New York when I would have done it It just it it. It really just seems that. Like the worst case scenario that we're trying to avoid just as is that dire and every single person who knows what the hell they're talking about without exception is saying playing for time is absolutely essential act on both ends in other words acting as soon as we do as soon as we can collectively whether we know all the facts are right or not versus you know and then trying to stretch this out the whole What's it called flattened curve right but you've to act the you have to act as quickly as possible. I saw a good video from some doctor in the UK the UK in particular seems to be really particular as bad as the US bashful response has been boy the UK really seems to have had their collective heads up their asses on this But there is a World Health Organization doctor in the UK was saying that this is not the time to be worried about. Whether you're right or wrong it don't be everybody's affray everybody wants to be perfect and make the right decision. Nobody wants to make a mistake. By enacting draconian measures and then to find out that they weren't necessary. You have to you know the most single most important thing is to act as as strong as you can as quickly as you can Because if you wait until you're certain that you need to. It's far too late you know. We've we've seen that here in the US with this situation with the testing kits right My parents Literally are still. They should be right now on a cruise but they're not but it wasn't because of the corona virus per se. My mom actually came down with an unrelated bug. She does not have krona virus. But but you know became ill a few days before and they knew the corona virus thing was already floating about and they took it as an opportunity to. Hey let's you know what we've didn't feel good about this anyway. Let's cancel and cancelled and I can only imagine. That's no fun at all right now. I would imagine I I. I can't even imagine the cost of Ob being on a cruise ship right now. Even if you're on a cruise ship that you know as seemingly most of the ones that are still at see I know all of the major cruise lines have stopped new voyages but it's it was like a ten day cruise or something they were supposed to be on. Kazura retiring go on very long cruises. I would imagine the ones that are even with no reported cases. It must feel like you're on this giant floating prison. Yeah or worse than a prison. I don't know you know. I don't know a petri dish giant floating petri dish small beds and I've done some cruises. It sort of feels like a floating prison already. Yeah I I have to and I feel the same way you definitely. I feel a little cooped up I one thing I can think of playing it back in. My mind is And I was talking to my parents before they made that decision. I didn't at the time I didn't tell them. Hey definitely don't go because it it's changed so it seems ridiculous in hindsight but it you know like nine days ago. It didn't seem out of the question to go but the thing that I thought about from my times on a cruise ship is that it is impossible to get an do anything without touching things you know. You're you're always opening doors doors everywhere right to get inside to get outside to go here to go there like it did. It just seems like a nightmare to me and everything is you know hallways are so now. I don't know yeah. My Heart's out to everybody. Who's on stuck on a cruise ship Otherwise you know. I don't know what to say. It's it's bizarre. I you know but then you know there are parts of life that seem normal the Bruno brothers. You know food market here in downtown Philadelphia has been mostly normal that you know. I'm not going every day. I'm trying to get as much as I can and bring it home and But you know it's not crazy It you know and if you weren't really closely paying attention you wouldn't really notice you know that every single employee not just the ones that daily wearing plastic gloves Their shelves are well stocked with Pasta. And all of the you know even still have bred a lot of the breads gone but they still have a wide assortment of bread a wider than a lot of the photos. I've seen from other places. My wife went to trader Joe's though on Friday or Thursday morning while Jonas was still going to school she dropped him off. Had the car went to the trader. Joe's here in center city Philadelphia and she felt like she might have made a when she pulled in. Now it's for those of you don't live in a major city. It's a trader. Joe's is a weird jump remark. It's a Lotta fun parking. Lots are always bad park and parking lots are always bet on a normal on a normal Thursday at eight. Am It is not a good parking lot. But it's the sort of parking lot where you don't pull in off the street and you're in the parking lot you pulling off the street and you're more or less in like a driveway to get to the parking and she pulled in and realized this is going to be a mistake. It was a half an hour to get from the street to the parking lot. But she couldn't back up because people got in behind her and it's you know one way to get in another way to get out so you can't just make a u-turn or something so she more or less had to wait the half hour to get to the parking lot. Once she did that. Why not go? She gets to the front door. There's a line to get in because they were filled to the fire code capacity. And there's an employee they're saying that the way they're managing the fire code is every twenty leave. They'll let twenty come in She said that you know choose. She didn't count but she figured she was. Probably like twenty fifth. You know. But she wasn't in the next batch she was like at least one batch behind And so she waited awhile maybe like ten minutes or something and then a woman came out a customer and and just empty handed and said you know unless you have two hours to announced everybody waiting line unless you have at least two hours of time. Do you should just leave because I was in their forty five minutes the line to get to the checkout snaked through every single up and down every aisle of trader. Joe's and she said I was. I was only about one third of the way through. And she said the only way to shop is to get carte get in the line empty carded and as you snake through every aisle of the market. Do Your shopping online. She said it's the only way to get she said. Because there's no other way because the line is solid. You can't really you know. Shop in any story. Is the line the at that point? The store is the line and she said she was in their forty five minutes and she said I was only about a third of the way through. Maybe a half at the best and my wife had had to go had to be somewhere at ten so she knew she would make it so she just abandoned ship and came home crazy. I mean yeah and what everything. I've read says that the supply chain is fine. That people people are rushing out. Yup because they're afraid and I think the truth is you WanNa have some semblance of control over your life. And that's the thing that you can control is kind of nesting instinct like people who are about to have a baby have whereas I'm GonNa take care of this and I'm going to get it done in a stock up and all of that and you know this is the thing that we can't control and that we can't even see it and so I understand the the human nature behind it but also everything I've read says the supply chain is doing okay and the aren't going to be food shortages. And you don't need to do what people been doing where they're buying all the toilet paper and all of that at the same time. I do think it's true that everybody would probably be wise to minimize the number of trips. They take to the store data like we always talk about. My wife will often go to trader Joe's and whole foods and Safeway and Costco and get different things at different places. And what we're trying to do is have you know. Make our list be big and then go. Ideally at an off our although it sounds like they're basically aren't any and do one kind of trip and then and then that's it for a while just to reduce the amount of exposure but there's only so much you can do but I get I get the human nature part of it of just wanting to wanting to control something and then uncontrollable situation but it's also kind of ridiculous to have that kind of experience at trader Joe's trader Joe's is not made for that. Now's not no it really isn't Again my hat's off to all of those people who are doing their jobs showing up. I mean man who's WHO's working at a grocery store or who is in the supply chain like Parcel drivers and letter carriers and everybody in the distribution thing anybody who does deliveries of any kind like this is how the rest of us are going to be able to ride. This out is that there are people out there who are moving everything around and getting it where it needs to go. We have a great. Ups Guy in Marco's talked about this where he lives. Everybody has a different. You know some people have a bad. You've ups service and a great Fedex. Guy. We've we'VE PRETTY GOOD FEDEX. But we have a great. Ups Guy Vince. I mean we love. The Vince is the best To God I should write a letter to the CEO of ups about Vince. He's the best. Ups Guy Shows up today. Amy Was Vince. I'm so happy to see I'd hug you but you know you got it. Amy Virtual all around but man. I can't even imagine the stress honestly. I'd be so stressed if if I were working like a register you know and just you know Peop- one after another after you know think about it and like I said fire capacity all day probably. Yeah that's too many people in close space on top of it. So yeah right. Yeah I don't know what they're gonNA do like the. Cdc is saying that they recommending no more than fifty people group. Does that count as a supermarket? Count is fifty people and I. I don't know how they're going to do that. Because like a trader. Joe's is very different square footage than like suburban Safeway. Or whatever your brand. You know piggly-wiggly wherever you live you know the new. The modern supermarkets in suburban United States are enormous. You know fifty people in a modern Walmart is empty right. It's a ghost town. I mean I'm not saying I'm you know we all have to be smart and we have to listen to the advice of the experts but I'm not quite sure what they mean by fifty people at a time because I think it really makes a big difference whether it's fifty people in a trader Joe's versus fifty people in a Walmart for sure Anyway let me take a break. Thank our sponsor. Great Sponsor Lymph Node Leno ads where I host.

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"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

The Talk Show

14:37 min | 1 year ago

"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

"Hey Watch what you touch situation right like. It's always seemed kind of cool. There's no touching involve but now it seems magic but at because it was a prescription pickup. I had to sign for it and guess what I had to sign with that one of those plastic pins attached to the thing and I felt like I I almost turned into. Larry David. I was just like I signed I signed and then I just kept my right hand up. I actually had to use my left. Hand my phone back in my pocket and I just kept my and of all the stores of all the stores in Philadelphia. Which is the one store. That doesn't have free hand sanitizer at the entrance possible. That pharmacy does not have free hand. Sanitizer but I knew that there's a little grocer great little family owned grocery store right around the corner debruyn brothers which is doing a fantastic job in all of this absolutely fantastic job. I knew it so I just like walking around with my right hand up in the air going a block and a half to get and I went over there after using. That pen hand sanitized before I hand sanitizer and sanitizer ones from Penn. I mean how are you making people use this and this is I went to Whole foods a couple of days ago and I brought my own bag. Put all the stuff in the bag dumped it out at the cashier. Contact Lists Apple. Pay Walked out. I don't either see right right and and I managed to do it and I do wonder in the long run. You know. We're going to get some interesting new cultural practices out of this. That that where thing people are going to be like. Why don't we reduce the amount of touching that happens like maybe that's a good idea? I think contactless payments may be one of those places where he's like. Why did we not just completely leaning into this? I don't WanNA touch anything. I think we're all going to get a little more conscious about all of this stuff now. Having lived through it. Yeah there's and there've been a couple of places that I've seen smaller places here in Philly not like I'm out much but I've seen places and there's even some places that have the sign in the window that we're saying Credit cards please. Because they don't want cash but I am I was. I was buying dog food today. That was my one outing and the lady in front of me wanted to pay with cash. And she's an and it's like seven dollars seven cents and she's like oh. I think I have seven cents. And she's digging and everybody around you know in our little. Three yard bubbles is looking at each other like. Are you kidding me? And she's like it's it all out and I'm looking at the at the cashier and I'm like why I hope you gotta just that at hand sanitizer back there buddy. Yeah and then she's. She's still busy putting her money away in her in her. I weighed her inner person. I have already tapped my apple. Pay picked up the forty five pounds of dog food and then walking around her to get out right. You know what and I think that for the most part you know usually And the distance on apple pay is is pretty generous. You Know I. It's one of those technologies and again. I never really thought about it a lot until this last week but it's the NFC distance or I think it's NFC right. Most of these animals is the technology is. Nfc It is. It doesn't require you to get close enough. That you're worried about touching but you know it's not so generous that you have to worry about it happening accidentally when you're not even that close right. It's it seems like the distances just right six inches maybe three four inches at the closest and ping. You're done At just as a as I mean everybody's Germophobic this point Yeah everybody should be. I can't decide whether all the GERMOPHOBIC are nodding like yeah. I told you or if they're too busy like in a corner somewhere to me. It can't do it I don't know. Meanwhile this six guys playing craps at her. So Yeah Oh God you gotta laugh to keep from crying sometimes my God. Where DO WE START What else is going on? And what's going on in in your daily life you guys. L- bunkered in more. So my wife Forks Settle Library full-time and they closed it over. The weekend and today was a staff day where they're supposed to come in and sort of figure out what they could do when they're not open to the public and a by noon today so again. Our is pass and things change by noon. Today we had been given all the bay area counties a shelter in place order which is usually used for things like toxic gas leaks basically said no non essential movement so in other words. She's GonNa be home tomorrow. There's no way that they're still going to be in the library. Unless the city government decides the library is an essential emergency operation which seems unlikely And so then we'll all be we'll all be here just locked in here and for me. It's funny because this is where I work like you and I so. Many of our peers already worked from home. So it's not as disruptive to us but you know everybody else in. My family has been disrupted directly by this. So that's you know day to day. I don't know we're we're starting to figure it out now that that. What does it mean that Jaime's home and she's doing her finals? And what Julian doing in terms of his His high school work. And what is the which teachers know how to use email in which teachers don't use email? There's a lot of that. There's some tech savvy to teachers and some really not savvy teachers and Yeah I don't know it's it's that's that's where we are so it's it's weird and you said every hour every day it seems like there's something something new and different and changing about it so I don't know I mean I I assume are you all just bunkered into bunkered in with a five hundred pounds of charcoal. So we're all set is also you know Jonas pointed out I mean we you know we are as of as a threesome. Rather naturally sue. This isn't that different than what we liked to do like it. It's like when we have no family other obligations like for us. A nice weekend is often just entirely spent at home it. It's not that different for us and we're not on top of each other. We've got plenty of space. I do work for home most of my adult life and nonstop since I don't know God at least twenty twenty years for the most out some very small exceptions It's you know. But it's the hour by hour. Differences are just crazy like literally this morning so Sunday night or Sunday yesterday Sunday. New York City announced that they were going to close all restaurants and bars. Other you know other than to allow for takeout and pick up and delivery I guess take out and pick up her the same but delivery and takeout and then Los Angeles followed shortly thereafter almost probably just accounting for the time difference made that decision at the right time the governor of Ohio which neighbors Pennsylvania to the West announced that the whole state was going to close all restaurants and bars for the same policy other than take out and delivery and then this morning the mayor of Philadelphia. Jim Kenney said that He still wanted. He said he encouraged he still encouraging people to go to restaurants and tip generously staffs are hurting. We can't really afford to close all these restaurants. It's you know it's it's his top priority was obviously the economic impact of closing restaurants. Which again I and I know people who work in. Oh I have my friendly owns a bar here in Philadelphia. Obscene laundromat I have friends in the restaurant industry. I've a good friend Matt who works up in New York and the industry has been filling me in there. I mean it's just devastating restaurants. It's really devastating. It's you know they're just not equipped for this. You know financially to to pay staff I mean literally famously. I mean in America. At least you know. Waiters most of the people a lot of the people who work in restaurants. Don't even have a salary that could still be paid. They make all their money from tips. Doesn't work if you know the places half empty and there was this half measure where they were going to say. Well everybody you can be open but you have to be half capacity and it's like number one didn't seem like a great idea. It's not an airborne illness right. So this is one of the things that I haven't understood about some of these responses. Where like every every if everybody's table is six feet apart? Then it's okay but it's not me you know. Measles is airborne which you think of this terrifying right that you could just walk by somebody you know back. Before there was a measles vaccine somebody had measles and he just walked by him on the sidewalk and you get measles measles right you see the thread posted a link to one don shafter thread and this is this guy. Who's an expert on food safety and you posted your post about handwashing which was really great and the idea that it does really warm water or cold water. It's the soap that matters which was really good and then he he's hand sanitizer also is very effective against this kind of virus. So you should also use hand. Sanitizer super powerful. He had a new thread today. Because lex Friedman our buddy never had never heard said I basically I'm worried about Takeout being contaminated. Oh how does this work and Don basically says again? He's he's an expert although not the only expert and people have conflicting opinions but he basically said it's unlikely because this is a respiratory illness which means that people are sneezing and coughing. And then you breathe it in and that's how you get infected if somebody sneezed on your food while they were making it that would be gross and they should go home. They're sick but it's going to be in your mouth and then you swallow it and then it's got your stomach has a low. Ph so it's going to inactivate the virus If it gets to your intestine he says it's a respiratory virus. It's not really designed to invade that way so it probably wouldn't work so basically what he says. I'm not really worried about getting the virus from food whether it's hot or cold doesn't really matter. It's the because as far as we know. This is about people coughing or sneezing. And then you either breathing that in or the handwashing thing you know touching something that's got it on it and bringing that up and putting it on your eye or in your mouth or or or something like that. So it's not so the vectors matter which is why everybody keeps saying you know. Wash your hands. Don't touch your face Becau- and keeps keep your distance. And that that can do a lot to mitigate this and something like having the restaurants convert to out your big risk. There is the person who's handing you the food and their biggest risk to. Yeah yeah absolutely. I had to run a few errands today. I mean I. It's at the point today. Where I I was sort of crossing is dot and t's on like what do we really have to do if we want to get it? You know if we get locked in here for two weeks and again who knows? This could get worse in two weeks we might I. Might you know three weeks now. I might think I might laugh at the thought. The two weeks was the worst case scenario. But I don't see any practical way that I could you know? I can't I can't buy a month of food. I mean I guess in theory could but you know. I'M NOT PREPARED FOR THAT. But one of the things that needed to go to the bank. I needed to Move some money from the business to personal so we pay some bills and and you know time going forward to the end of the month etc. I was just a few I you know like. I just thanked the guy at the magazine. I just WANNA say thanks. I'm glad you're here. You know I appreciate you and I don't know I I felt a little. Larry Davis I was like. I just want you to know when I came in. I really sanitize the hell out of my hands. Thanks those guys. I don't know what's going on with their hands because they are they're they're squirting a little pure L. on their hands between every single customer and it's like man that is that's that's the hard stuff here it's you know but it's been weird like our mayor said that and that was this morning it was news story this morning. Our mayor said a keep going to bars and restaurants will keep your you know. We'll have lower seating but tip 'em generously we WANNA keep them open and this is not the right i. It's your heart's in the right place in terms of their businesses. But this is the. This is not leadership in my thought was. Maybe he's waiting for the governor of Pennsylvania to say the whole state at restaurants have to be shut down and then he is. The mayor doesn't look like the bad guy. You shut restaurants down. I don't know but it's like you know. Profiles encouraged here And then literally like twelve thirty new just afternoon news story comes out and Philip Inquire had the exact same photo of them literally just to save photo. And it's you know the Philadelphia shutting down all nonessential businesses. You know it's pretty much grocery stores drug stores banks and doctors you know. It's it's like a lot of politicians. Don't want to be the one to go. I didn't want to be out of step but once everybody's stepping in the same direction it makes it a lot easier for all of them. Yeah and I thought so too especially for Philly which I'm not gonNA say..

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"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

The Talk Show

07:18 min | 1 year ago

"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

"It's like I'm already seeing. You know fast enough results just using the a sixteen inch macbook pro. It's not using MAC pro isn't going to help me with my little little project there who has any reviews out out. I don't even know I've been so today with a few things. It looks like a staggered rollout. Too because like the videos that I've seen from youtubers tend to be Kinda like boxing and first impressions and there've been a couple of blog posts that I've seen that kind of like first impressions so it may actually be that they've gotten imbargo to like say you've got the product and your first impressions but not a full review. I don't know that for a fact but that may be the case of like you know not yet because has promised a full review video but his first video is not that it's A. It's a much shorter kind of like. Here's here's what I've been thinking but it's not not the indepth kind of thing so it seems like it's the state's roll out. It's a very different kind of kind of product rollout for sure. Yeah and my guess. Is You know in some ways. Apple Repeats Pizza'd silver. The patterns are pretty obvious but if you think back to the month ago sixteen inch macbook pro show in New York and the demos that we saw is my you know. It's not just going to be all video producers or new tubers it's going to be an equal number of the use cases that they see the and we had those demos stations where we trade right around and went from station to station. And here's what it means for developers and I remember when the I mac pro came out a couple years ago. They had had the guy who was like an aerospace engineer. You know and doing these real complicated Analysis of like wing design and stuff. Like that which Eh. As you might imagine computational extremely expensive but just finding people like that people in truly pressing the limits of but but from various areas fields visual effects people independent filmmaker and you to protect developers comp- composers that amazing kind of Demo. Where this I've heard from a couple of people who are professional musicians and scoring kind of people that like it literally is the case now where they have multiple Max that are working in harmony because logic can't control that many software instruments of like an orchestra and the so you've got multiple Max wired together and you have to update things in the different versions of logic and all of that and the Mac pro just runs with all of the instruments? It just runs it. And that's a great I when they found that out. I'm sure glommed onto that. It's like this is an application. That used to take five Mac pros all running in synchrony to do this thing and now one mac pro desert and it's like that's Great Demo for scoring. Yeah well I think it plays into you. Know Apple did exactly what they said they were GONNA do nine hundred eighty days ago and talk to actual pros about their needs and they had that ready to go if you remember in the hands on area. WW DC the date. You know the day these these the macro announced they had a whole room dedicated to do a. I forget what movie it was from. But a true major Hollywood movie and they had the actual score from it all running on one machine and I forget how many machines they said it had to run on when they actually were doing the work. It was like four. I don't know like four machines. took up or maybe more I don't know but they're having it all in one machine. Simplify the workflow tremendously And just just as the user he just scroll through and just see all these tracks and they all are instead of having to go over to this other machine to do the horns. They're all the horns are already they're they're they are. Yeah it's it's it's a good like I know why they did in June and they did it again last month that it's a really good demo in a really good example of how the what's possible on one of these computers is is so much better than what what the reality is today. So that's you know they're going to they. Apple's really good at this. I mean we haven't even mentioned the whole group inside apple which I know came up a a nine hundred and eighty days ago as well like they have this whole pro workflows group now and this product as well as the macbook pro. Sixteen inch are a are are the first products to really be created in partnership with that pro workflows group. And those are those are people those those are people who professionally. Do the things that these computers are supposed to solve. And that's you know it's really interesting like they're not they're not theorizing rising about like well. What would a music pro or film pro want like the film pro and music pro are in the same? It's not even like available somewhere off. Campus purpose like their across the hall. They're in the same room like with the people who are working on the pro hardware and And that's why I think that you know they know very well. What parts of the market of various markets? They're hitting with this product yeah hit and miss miscellaneous items now There's no Webcam on the prototype. X T R and friend friend of the show Mark Gherman pointed that out today wondered why hadn't been mentioned had been mentioned. Actually right in the keynote I believe And the interesting answer on that which I hadn't thought of but then as soon as I was told actually it was like Oh of course yes so you think your your answer well. The pros don't need a Webcam built in or if you're spending all this money you'll by an external one on No the answer is actually that they went and talked to actual pros and they said. Please don't put a Webcam on this because if you do I won't be able to use an air like why and there because it for security reasons cameras aren't allowed in the rooms where they're editing. These films are doing the via fax or something like that. Because it's there's there's that's how tight security purity is like when you're doing the visual effects for I'll just star wars or something and you say well wait the Webcam points away from the display. So you could. Did you know. Photograph the display with the Webcam. When it's in there but who knows if there's a display across from the display if you're working back to back with somebody so the key those rooms when they say no cameras hammers? They mean no cameras which they do there is a partner. I don't know if it's Logitech or somebody else but apple said like a partner partner is making one that's going to be color matched and every day I think it is. I think it's a lot so if you want one. You can buy one and added magnetically clips on and stuff like that. But it doesn't come with with one probably we'll have a much better resolution than most of apple's front facing cameras under Max. Here's a question I had. So what are the missing Max. Now that the MAC pro is out and the one that first one that POPs into my mind I mentioned a few shows ago but with a fifteen inch or sixteen inch whatever you WANNA call it a bigger the thirteen inch non-pro MAC book. There is some guy on twitter who I don't know if I have the link or not but somebody was mentioning a threat on this pricing. He had a client client. Who wants to switch from the MAC from the PC to the MAC and wants a fifteen inch laptop and he said well they start at twenty four hundred dollars? The guy just laughed because he doesn't want twenty four hundred dollar laptop and again.

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"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

The Talk Show

08:34 min | 1 year ago

"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

"It really is a perfect wheel worth. How many do you do you need? That's I'm imagining that. They're very nice. Wheels I was really hoping that the hand if if there were wheels in the hands on area I missed him. I really wanted to sit there and there was one there installment plans plans available. They'll save up all right. Joshua's answer played for laughs. There sure and it was all knowing laughs though knowing laughs. Right right right and you know. But that's that's that's the genius of a guy like jaws is. He knew they were going to be expensive. And maybe they didn't have a price yet. Maybe they didn't know exactly and it wasn't like they were trying to hide it but he knew they were building really really nice. Wheels like it like people laugh like I have friends who don't really follow closely like my friend Lee from obscene laundromat. Who doesn't even use a Mac? You use an iphone but he just stays tuned to like social media and like at the end of ww DC week. He texted me. Hey John you kidding me. They're selling a thousand dollar monitor. Stand nope not kidding. You like somehow news looked out to like the real world. That apple was selling a thousand dollars. Stand for my daughter. Did the same thing. She came home from school one day and I was like really thousand. It's not a monitor standpoint can well. It's complicated but yeah right. Yeah but it's not it's not like just stick with a screw on the end of it. I I suspect given apple's regular margins it really is thousand dollar mechanical device it's super arguably over engineered but yeah it's engineered veneer in it locks in horizontal and it locks in a separate vertical where it raises up and then it won't go down like it's seriously engineer and it won't let you rotate the display display. If isn't high enough for the display to go from horizontal to vertical orientation. It's all true and so I I. I do think that these are four hundred dollar wheels. I really do now. Are there a lot of people who have a use case for this machine. Where we're having it on? Wheels is what they want. Who would be much happier with lower grade wheels? Like let's just say the wheels from like an Aron Chair. Who would be much happier just putting hundred dollars set a wheels on the same MAC pro? Yeah I think there's a lot of them I mean did. Apple need to make super premium four hundred dollar wheels. No but you know. I think I think they're thinking well. You're spending six thousand dollars for a computer. We're going to make the wheels not look cheap because that's also it's apple right but it's also we got this beautiful stainless steel frame in the beautiful aluminum skin. And we're GONNA make these awesome wheels. I had for my paramedic G.. Four I think I had a thing that was basically like a lucite skateboard with essentially Aaron Erin Chair wheels on it in order to make it a wheeled configuration and I I use those wheels all the time to move it around in my when I was you know it was like in my closet it and I had to pull it in order to put out in order to install things in it and stuff like that so I can see the need I will also predict now that somebody probably twelve south. We'll have ed on wheels for the existing configuration. That will cost quite a bit less than four hundred dollars. Yes I won't be nice but we'll be nice enough as an an aftermarket thing and that if you really don't care about how nice the wheels are you just want to wheel it around. There will be some sort of third party sets of wheels for one hundred twenty nine dollars or something like that that you can safely secure. You know maybe like with a skateboard. I don't know I mean you don't really care but then here you go four hundred dollars. Yep Yep for the wheels it was funny did you ask I remember at. WWe asking in pre so the best. was that clip. I played where I asked jaws on stage and he couldn't really no answer out of any handled it brilliantly but I remember asking privately. Hey how much do the wheels cost talking. Like in the hands on area after the after the grant I forget what they say they have the best non answers. We're not talking about pricing today. Something like that pricing for the wheels. I love it when you ask a question. That's off the script and you and and these poor people who are generally not like the Super High Test Marketing people right there who've been conscripted to do the demos and they've been trained on what to say and they're they've got like patter that they go through and then you ask them a question. That's totally really off the script. And they get this look like not. It's not just I don't know the answer but it's like if I say something wrong here. They're really going to get me. Well you know. And then they they brush off and and you move on so the highest end configuration. You get if you Max everything out. Oh do other thing we should talk about is is with the before we go onto this with the graphics. There's two coming soon graphics cards right. And I don't know what they're going to cost but I asked a double check Syracuse. And he said he they you know they're. They're the caliber of card that would slot. They're not like all the other coming soon. Stuff is like the highest end can fig the one point two five gigabytes of of storage the rack mount instead of the desktop amount These aren't high end conflicts. These are like above the base model. But below the current I upgrade level of the radio pro Vega too and that makes sense if you just look at the amount of Ram on all these cards. I don't know anything about modern. I N video cards. But the the first two upgrades thirty two GIGABYTES and the second to our thirty two or two by thirty two gigabytes. So if you just go by how much. Ram Is on the card. It seems pretty clear these were slot in below and Siracusa estimates. That they'll probably maybe like a thousand dollar caller update or maybe eight hundred sixteen hundred or something like that so that there's a much smoother continuum between the base model and the first current current first available upgrade for Graphics Card which is twenty four hundred dollars which is pretty significant for one tick up on the graphics right right and this is this is actually an announcement on on today to December tenth that they announced this. There's actually an MD press release about it. So they coming. Yeah but not available all yet coming soon again. Whatever that means I also think for everybody who's following John? Syracuse is Odyssey of having achieved greater Mac pro for ten years and waiting for this model so that he can buy one. My understanding is that this is the graphics card that John Wants us. Oh so just differing I guess and again again it it also comes in with the with what does coming soon mean like right coming soon January first because that might fit very closely with when Syracuse was going to order anyway because he's not really order on day one he's a he's he wants to sit on these options for you know a at least a couple couple of weeks and maybe you know see what happened. He said on the show. Maybe you know let people early adopters get them and see if they're actually as promised before he puts his money in I mean honestly he seems a little tight with his money. If you ask me I think he should have bought a five k Mak when it came out years ago when he would have been using a modern Mac for for the last five years. He's decided to wait and is still waiting. Inability to compromises is admirable in some ways. It is admirable yes is what makes him him who he is. And that's why we love it all right and so for example. He's not going to compromise by getting a better video card for twenty four hundred dollars that he is convinced he doesn't need read ends probably right even though he's been waiting ten years and the cost of that twenty four hundred dollar upgrade that's available today a versus what he could get if he waits is probably like.

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"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

The Talk Show

08:17 min | 1 year ago

"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

"The fastest computer you can buy. It's not the fastest computer you can buy because you know it's faster because it's out of course in Europe the thing doesn't use the core is so there's no point and you just want the faster turbo boost with the one core and it's complicated right so much of it is is complicated and it kind of sand it off and and just so you don't even need to know. Just just don't worry about it. Yeah and so you know. I grew up in those decades thinking either either wishing I could afford the fastest possible Mac that whether it was called power Mac or whatever the name was you know at the time from the eight even from the sixty the Motorola days before that wishing I could afford a a Mac or upon dream you know to FX. I've told this story before I don't know the SOB's name. Or if I did know it I forgot it but there was one guy. I am the director dorms who had a two FX and and when we played specter on in the dorms having a faster computer actually helped and on you know and everybody if played spector. You know everybody knew you turn on. The vector style graphics just outlines because it would speed things up but this guy had a to FX in the worst part is in so we had a two effects. That's good for him to get. His parents had money I if I could have. My parents had offered me eight thousand thousand dollars to affects. I certainly wouldn't have taken it. The worst part is the son of a bitch was a cheater. And he went into there was a way to go into res- at it and and set your specter can fig to have like illegal values so you're maxed out on all three times it was like you had like I forget the the three factors inspector speed shields armor armor and firepower or something. I forget the third one was. But but you'd had you have to allocate stuff and you could make a faster one but then you'd have less armor or you can make more armored one but then you'd be slower and and the son of a bitch made his max armor and Max speed and you could tell when somebody was cheating like that you could tell with your absolutely and the son of a Bitch Maktoum FX. We already had a leg up anyway if anybody from Drexel in one thousand nine hundred nineteen ninety-two remembers that guys named let me know because I'll air it out. I Don I don't take cheating but anyway it. I see what you mean. People identify with the fact that I I want the MAC pro. Whatever it's whatever it's it's called the time and now they feel I think I think there's also there's the ascetic aesthetic thing like entirely around like there's I? There's my identity as a computer. The person like I am a computer enthusiast. Who lived through that era and so for me? Having a tower being able to change you know change video cards. Being able to upgrade the processor a a lot of stuff which by the way nobody actually ever did or very few people did it was it was. It was the theory that you could upgrade the internals but most people didn't an apple realized that which is why apple makes ex- computers now that mostly you can upgrade the internals and that's just how they have decided to do it and I also get for some people it's not just the nostalgia or the just the calming feeling of knowing that it could be upgraded later. Some of it is aesthetic which is like I like having a big shiny tower and a standalone monitor. I I liked knowing that I can replace the computer and keep the Monitor or replaced the monitor and keep the computer like there. There are a lot of intangibles going in here that I totally we get why people are attracted that way even though the the truth is for what they want to do I'm Akron. I'm at pro or a Mac. Mini with an external monitor is probably like more than they need. I get like yeah I want this really cool tower. I totally get it yeah. It's funny though that I think is pretty good advice. You probably don't need Mac. Pro is like your most controversial Mackerel column in months. Well Yeah I think my first. My first headline that I wrote that I changed was the Mac. Pro is is really important. And you shouldn't buy one like I actually got somebody wrote to me and he said stop. Suppressing sales of MAC pros. We need the Mac pro like like the people who are going to buy. It are going to buy it. It's all the people are like. Oh I don't really need it. And that's like I told John Syracuse about this and he and his response on on his podcast was oh I don't need it I want it. It's like yeah that's fine like I totally get it. But it's like I think think for most Mac users the Mac pro more important as a symbol. It's more important of being part of this kind of reattachment. reengagement apple has been doing since eight hundred or nine hundred eighty days ago where they have done a whole bunch of stuff and we're seeing it now and we'll still be seeing it next year where they've kind of changed their approach in and are a spending more time being concerned about the the kind of pro end of the of the market. And that doesn't just mean the MAC pro. It also means the MAC pro and the macbook pro and like other other MAC products as well. And that's what's you know it's important in that way even if you don't end up spending somewhere between six and fifty thousand dollars collar on a MAC pro. I think it's still matters. Yeah totally all right now. In addition to not telling us when it will go on sale and then when they finally told us what they would go on sale. They didn't tell us what time right now. We know everything aw ten. AM Pacific turns out. No I think it was ninety nine percents because I was I was taking my. I was taking my notes around twelve fifteen here so I was still in my pajamas. What I know but that's a little unusual because usually apple is a ten? Am Pacific one the PM Eastern Company but they except when it's except when pre ordering an iphone. I guess but yeah but in addition to that they never told us anything about any pricing other than base models right and the Monitor stand right now we know that all and so we have so much to talk about but before we do so there we go. That'd be a perfect perfect topic fantastic after I thank our first friend of the show who've been sponsoring show now for quite a bit and I like them a lot they're good company xpress brass VPN. I've tried express. VPN It is exactly as easy to use as they say you install it you tap a button you allow One of those Conflict Files to be used on your on your device profile and then boom all of a sudden you. 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"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

The Talk Show

03:41 min | 2 years ago

"jason snell" Discussed on The Talk Show

"Up everything makes visual sent you can see. Oh, I have notes paired with messages here in a space and I have notes a different note, but the same app notes paired with safari over here. That's the one I want, and I can tap it and it brings it comes forward. Whereas when you do the command tab thing and you go to notes, and it doesn't bring up the one you want, and there's no other option. It it just feels broken. I feel like that's a hole in the interface that they, they should fix. But, but overall, I think that the, the way that they've expanded the mo- multi panel. Interface for ipad. OS is really, really clever. And I really think it's especially I think, for people who, like you who. That's your primary, you're only portable machine being able to do to up is to me magical. I brought that up at my talk show. But to is the magic number where I it's like you have old, new left and right. And if you can look at two notes at the same time or two word documents or Google documents using the ipad, desktop browsing, or whatever sure to up is, is magical, and being able to do that is a huge huge win slide over which was really just kind of like a, a remnant of the original concept. And it was always a little bit weird and kind of hard to get rid of and hard to manage actually gone to be what they done with. That is turn it into an iphone, basically, which is brilliant. So the now it's going to be much more useful. Because now the slide over thing you know, you sort of slide it out, and it's a floating window above your. Content, but you can swipe on the bottom can't on the bottom of an iphone ten and it'll just go through all of your different apps and windows that are they are, or you can swipe up and get a little multitasking apps, which are just for slide over and slight over is no longer this kind of like app in a box off on the side. It's now like a quick access to any app, you want for a moment, which, like, I feel like it's way more powerful a concept now than it was before. And I actually think I will use it in a way that I just never bothered with with the old one. Because now it's just so easy to just get at anything for a moment. Do what you need to, and then flip it away. And that's, that's a good concept. I like that. I do this. I wonder if you do too. But I'll do this where I'm working on my ipad and sometimes even my MAC too. But I'll take out my phone and do something on my phone, literally, my actual phone just because I know it's brief and I know. That like some of the continuity features are so great that I can count on it. Like, let's say I know that I saw tweet from Jason Snell, and he had a link that I definitely want to get on my maximum. How I'll just go to my phone and there it is because I left tweet bot there, and I can copy it, and copy it from my phone and then just switched my MAC. And paste and continuity will make you know, give me the thing I just copied on the other device. I feel like you can use slide over like that now like it's like having like you said like having an iphone on your ipad screen just for like a one off. You know, get this thing and get rid of it. Yeah. If it's not the app, the big frustration before was like it's not the app that you want. Then it's this whole thing where you're going through and trying to find what app you want to drop their and now you just flip through them until you find the thing you want, and then grab it, and then flip it away. And that's it. It's I think it's a good. I'm impressed with how they really rethought. The slide over thing is like what we do is slide over to make it better. And the answer was, we're going to take, and this may not have been an accident and may have been part of the big picture even last year..

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Apple Macbook Pro bug patched, unleashing full-speed performance

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04:30 min | 3 years ago

Apple Macbook Pro bug patched, unleashing full-speed performance

"I'm Jason Snell your host joined this week by two wonderful guest, longtime analyst, former apple employee, and you'll love them. You can't live without him. It's Michael Garten, Berg. Hello? Hey, Jason picture back. Glad that you're here. I expecting you to lend some interesting perspectives. You can tell us all the secrets about how apple really does conspire to break all of its products. Awake more money, or perhaps I too much Shelly Brisbane is also here host of the parallel podcast and somebody who's been working in the tech world for a long time or at least we won't say how long but you and I used to work together so that that says something we did. Hello. Thanks for having me back. I can't promise any secrets. I'll try though. All right. Okay. Well, we'll see. We'll see what we can and we might as well get to. These are the most interesting stories of the week as deemed by me and by Stephen who is not here in reality, but is here in spirit and he picked the topics. So you know his, his impression is left on this podcast even though he is roaming around, I think on summer vacation with his family right now which you know the nerve of that guy to do that anyway. Topic number one this week in tech panics. The macbook pro had a week youtuber. Dave Lee found that his brand new top of the line core. I nine laptop last week was way too slow unless he put it in the freezer which you should not do also gloves don't work well on track pads. So just it's not gonna work, but thus began a cycle of reactions. How can apple do this? Who are they trying to fool? Why you know? Why do they make people try to think that these expensive products are any good. They don't even test them how they could they shipped it. And of course, in a week it was uncovered that it was a weird firmware bug in the cooling system that it's lip through Apple's in house testing and ended up on shipping systems. Even though the versions that they tested in house didn't have the bug. It was sort of missing piece of software and apple. Obviously, some people worked all weekend because in a week from when Lee posted his video and it went viral, there was a release and it was fixed, and it was just a software. And then everybody tested the new laptops after the fix, and they said, oh, now it makes sense. It works fine. So I've got large scale questions in small scale questions. But first, let's start with this story itself and how apple handed it. I I mentioned earlier that Michael Garten Burg used to work inside apple. How do you? How do you think apple handle this? And what's your reaction to how the world reacted and then how apple reacted. Well, in this particular case, I think apple reacted well, and we found this bug was found in one particular scenario, doing one particular action and apples testing QA while extremely thorough may not include every single permutation, and I suspect he was this particular function combined with this particular bug, and then there's two ways to deal with it. One is to acknowledge that there indeed is a problem, and the second is to ignore the problem and you're gonna fix it. Third is not to acknowledge anything. Usually the problem if you know you have the fix and I think that was the case here. Apple acknowledged it and they promptly released a fixed. They're able to duplicate now, fix it. When apple doesn't acknowledge the problem, even though it seems to be a widespread problem. For example, the problem that people were having with keyboards exact apple never acknowledged that as a real problem. But then promptly changed the keyboard designed MAC pro. Properly. I suspect one of the reasons for that is you acknowledge you have a problem in the keyboard maybe even though about with the keyboard, but it's x. number of max that have why problem, and it's cheaper just to replace the x. number rather than say, we have a problem and then suddenly have to replace everyone's MAC and then be subject to the usual class action. Lawsuits that invariably comes around. So I don't know anyone who had keyboard problem than apple hasn't been able to deal with for the most part, but neck as it's kinda telling that they re designed it with little bit of silicone a little bit of the protection sa- prevent Dustin stuff getting in..

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