17 Burst results for "Jason Richardson"
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"jason richardson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"This is a new segment. We're going to start on Sunday. It's me and Russell up. I don't know a title yet, maybe drunk trade history or it's 21st century trade. Sober trade history? That's fine. Yeah, sober trade history is good. We're tackled the Dwight Howard trait today. Okay. We're still and I love trades. We love the mechanics of how things shook out. All the different variables, the things that came out, why a team made the decision they did in the moment, how it changed. So Dwight Howard trades a good one. This is a four team are made in the summer of 2012 that got the Lakers Dwight Howard. That was the first thing we remember. Orlando finally trades the way out of your late. Chris do Hansen and as well for them. Philly gets Andrew bynum and Jason Richardson. Denver gets Andre Iguodala and Orlando gets Nikola vucevic Aaron fellow Al Harrington Mohawk less some expiring. They get Denver's 2014 first, a protected Philly first of 2017 and a conditional Lakers first. Andrew Biden plays zero games for Philly Dwight Howard plays a year for the Lakers. I think they get swept any signs with Houston. And Iguodala plays a year in Denver and Orlando basically belatedly becomes the winner of this trade. But what do you remember about that trade in 2012? Versus how we remember it now. Vegas would not have given you odds on Orlando ending up being the best end of this historically. They'd be like, we can't convincingly. Right. We're going the number it has to be so massive. We can't cover the payout if it were to actually happen. And that's the first thing that jumps out is all of these other moving pieces. All the Dwight bullshit, the Biden part of it, where he still was so young. And if you're feeling it, you're like, this is how the fuck did we end up with this? And that it would all bounce immediately. That's an awesome trivia question. I had heard it again. I was like, that's right, he never actually played for them. This was Cleveland and the off season. He's a disaster there. They traded in a Chicago halfway through the next season because Chicago is trying to cut costs. And that was it. He was out of the league. This wasn't even close how much Orlando cleaned up on this. And in the moment, they were a complete afterthought. On what they were bringing in. And kind of shit on for what they got. It would seem like a four quarters for a dollar trade in a lot of ways. Like Dwight had made a first team on NBA, I think 5 straight years at that point at the center position the 2011 12 season was a little rockier for him than the other ones, but he was still considered to be the best center in the league. And he was going to be afraid in a year. So they get those picks. This is where it gets. This is where I love sober trade history. You got to get sponsored for sober trade history. Maybe a soft drink. Maybe we don't call it sober trade history than we call it something else. Just keep it vague. Yeah, because we don't want to rule out anybody as a potential sponsor. Our trade history presented by X in 2000. 2014, Orlando gets the 12th pick from Denver as part of this trade. They trade that pick and the Philly 2017 first that they got in this trade. To move up two spots to Philly so they could take Alfred Payton, so two of the three picks get turned into Alfred Payton who becomes a bus for the magic. Philly gets their 2017 first back, which is great. And then that ends up there's another Sacramento trade down the road where they took a bunch of stauskas and Carl Landry and Jason Thompson and they get some pick swaps of Sacramento that never get borne out because they have a better record with Sacramento. So anyway, two of the three picks of this trade get lit on fire. And then the third pick was this conditional 2017 first. That was protected. That got flipped into two second rounders. It didn't meet the protection. So it was number 33, Wesley U wunda and 2018, number 40. I'm curious so that none of the picks pan out. The follow who I think people thought was in the running for really above average two guard has a couple of good years for the match. That's about it. It was good for them. He was good for them. Like when you thought about it after like, hey you know he's been kind of nice as a follow. A couple of years. Right. I don't remember how Harrington on that team harkus was okay. But vucevic was the big prize. And they get 7, 8, 9 years out of it. And then flip him for window Carter, out of Porter, top four protected first in 21 to 23 from Chicago. The first one, which became Franz Wagner. So this trade is still paying off for Orlando. This turns out to be one of the great trades for they get the boost of his jacket. Then they flip it again, and this is like this amazing trade, and it sucks for everybody else. Suck for everybody else. Sucked. Although I guess Denver was pretty good in 2013. That was the 55 win Denver team. Ty Lawson. Iguodala. So they got like one kind of fun year. Then there's another variable at this trade. So Iguodala signs with Golden State in 2013 as a free agent. But to open the cap space, go instead has to trade be Adrian's and Jefferson, plus 2014 and 2016 first to Utah for the cap space. And those picks turned out to be Rodney hood and Josh Hart. That was
Lakers Nation Podcast
"jason richardson" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"That's it. Right? That's what the job is. And so if you're looking at what he's saying and trying to derive any kind of actual analysis from it, you're looking for the wrong thing. Because that's not what his gig is anyway. We've spent too much time already on your talking about. I don't want to spend more time talking about Declan Pollard said trade THT for Jay rich. Okay. Joffre, son. Josh, purchased. Sorry, Jason Richardson is going old school. He would be fun though. You'd get a young Jason Richardson. Use MLE on one of Otto Gary Harris or taurean prince. Would be a good start. Agreed. Yeah, right? If no rough trade. Then yeah, I actually don't mind that. You know, you have your line of potentially could be Ross Josh Richardson, LeBron, out of Porter, AD, that's not bad. I mean, you fix some of the problems with last year's lineup by just surrounding Russell guys that can shoot so that the floor opens up a little bit more for him as well. Not only LeBron and AD as well, obviously too, but and then off the bench of Kendrick now and still you have often Reeves almost a THC B's trading scenario. Stanley Johnson, you go get another big, maybe Damien Jones. That's not a bad roster. That's ideal. Spurs get on the phone. I could see pop, pick up the phone. Who's this? It's rob pelinka with a click. Can I help the Lakers? But I like, I like that idea. On the surface. Quentin said monk is a cheaper Kyrie. I think that's either overselling bunk or underselling Kyrie, maybe both. But again. Hopefully Russ for 6 men of the year. Do you think Russ, if he's really bought in and he's really sacrifice, the big term from darvin ham, could he actually consider a bench rule?.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"jason richardson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Don't have that. This is where they really miss, I think. Whatever comming is three years from now, it's like they could bring that guy in a time machine. They need like an athletic wing with size so we can get them offensive rebounds and some athlete moments. They just don't have it. Yeah, they are missing that and Kim inga also could provide some of that shot creation too. He's not a might not be a primary guy in three years, but if he follows a jail on brown like trajectory and it can at least do a little bit of it in two or three years that would be of great benefit for them because right now he said Jordan Poole erratic. They're just a little small. Yeah, they're smaller team and clay. I mean, I love clay, but off the dribble. He's just a non factor right now. Yeah. He can't create off the bounce. And clay he had zero points in the first quarter, finished with 25. I actually thought there was a moment when it felt like is clay is clay kind of back and then it faded away. I think jaylen Brown is a rookie he played 12 minutes a game in the playoffs, right? Tatum in that 2018 playoffs and he was playing like 27 28 and they desperately needed him to take over in the series and he just wasn't ready yet. He was young. I think further away both of those guys, but if you're a warrior spanner, if you ran the warriors or you're one of the owners or whatever. Would you feel like you might have left the title on the table here, but I'm not making a move at the deadline. Like you're a guy short and would you redo that if the whole goal is to win a title. You think the Lakers traded away a 130 picks for Anthony Davis for the bubble title. And now they're in shambles for the rest of decade. Phase of warriors fan, I don't think they realized they were going to be this close to a title. Could miles Turner have helped this team? Of course. Could I don't know anybody who could have had some size? Derek white. Derek white. Could he have helped the team? So the warriors front office, they talked about it before the finals when they did some of their plans. They're doing their victory laps about how smart they were that they kept the young guys together said everybody said I shouldn't be running pick and roll even though they're running like 30 plus pick and rolls per game for staff. But ultimately though for Golden State though, I was on the side of don't trade these guys unless it's like a no brainer deal, you know? And I think if you're the warriors, who would have made sense to trade for, like you said, Turner might have helped, maybe if you just flip one of them, could you have gone for a Bradley Beal, maybe not because he dealt with that. And he was heard. He didn't look like anywhere near the same guy. So I don't know who was the option aside from some high end role players. And what type of player is it is that like, for instance, could they have gotten Jason Richardson? Now, I mean, they're not Jason Richardson. Josh Richardson. Josh, or something like that. But even like a Jas Richardson, I guess the issue for them is every guy they are. Richardson really swinging your title odds? No, I'm trying to think of guys who are available at the deadline though. I guess it was pretty slim pickings. Yeah, that's what I mean. I just don't know who the option was that made sense on mortgage in your future for increased title laws. Now, when it doesn't necessarily increase title lots. Moody pool, these guys could be really what create Larry Nance. Yeah, something like that would have helped a lot. Covington. But like the fact this is for the warriors though. It would have been interesting. Will you mention the Patriots earlier? And Tom Brady sustaining success. For a team like that, they were able to sustain success because they continue to invest in their future. Same thing with the spurs. So for the warriors, even though it does hurt title odds this season, there of a mindset, well, we're trying to win for the next 5, ten. And whether that's right or wrong, I mean, you can argue either way, because like you said, they may not be back here again. There's no guarantees of that, right? Like we know that again, like with Tom Verde, how long did it take after their third Super Bowl? To win another one. It was a ten, ten, 11 years. Just for the record, I agree with you. I actually don't think they should have traded comming or moody. Wiseman maybe. Wiseman, what's your value though? I don't know. Pretty close to zero. Considering the money he's making too. I think they played it correctly because you couldn't have predicted the Middleton thing. And I think Milwaukee is honestly better than both his names. You couldn't have predicted that. And you couldn't have predicted whatever the fuck happened to Phoenix. It finally came out all the COVID stuff today. We had been hearing for a couple of weeks. One player tested positive for I wonder who the one player was. Just look at the box score. Yeah. But yeah, you have those two moments in all of a sudden they're playing for the title. But to me, I wonder if they're in like a 2008 Lakers kind of moment where they made this because the Lakers made that Cassatt trade got a couple breaks when all of a sudden they're in the finals, but you could tell they didn't have the right roster yet. And maybe the same thing for the warriors. I think by the way, they can still win it. As we said, they can still win it. They're making money. Right. Yeah. I'm just thinking if I'm trying to think if I was a warriors fan. Oh, you'd be pissed thinking about it. Tonight, would I be mad? They didn't make a trade or would I be mad at the refs? We guarantee I'd be mad at draymond because he sucked the name. We should talk about that. Yeah. So draymond, -13, found out two points for rebounds, three assists. Late in the second quarter, he was putting up a club trillion. Get the zero zero zero. Shout out to you..
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"jason richardson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"In Arizona call one 800 next step, Connecticut, 8 8 8, 7, 8, 9, 7, 7, 7, in Colorado, Iowa, India and Illinois and New Jersey Pennsylvania Virginia went in under gambler. In Michigan, 802 7 O 7 one one 7 one 8 7 7 7 7 zero stop in Louisiana. One 802 7 O 7 one one 7 for confidential Michigan. One 8 7 7 8 hope and Y or text hope and Y in New York, Tennessee redlin is 889,979. And in West Virginia, 1800 gambit net. All right, coming back. My weird team the Celtics. On another three game winning streak. We're taping this in the morning on Thursday. Another three game winning streaks left and right. Last night, I watched with my dad, my dad's in town. And it was one of the more encouraging Celtics games. It had all the makings of the game they've lost 15 times this year where they had to lead their control a couple dump things happen and then they blew it late. But this time they didn't blow it. And udoka has done a couple things that I'm not positive. I agree with, but I understand why he's doing it. They have an 8 main rotation now. Aaron nee Smith, Pritchard, Romeo Langford, no longer play. Yeah. Jason Richardson playing more. Schroeder has now coming off the bench. And I think he's just like, look, this is what we're doing. Nothing else has worked. Let's roll with our 8 guys. I thought there could be a seller. We mentioned smart before. I thought for sure, smart definitely Richardson, Richardson who was playing well this year. And I've even warmed up to him a tiny bit. My dad loves him. I was shocked. But he's like 11 million 12 million for this year next year and is like the perfect guy for a team like the jazz who have we'll talk about them in a second. But now I don't know. I don't know what they do because they have these three young guys that I don't know what their value is. I still feel like jaylen Brunson would be the guy that would get their attention. But if you're Dallas, how do you trade him? Like you're playing really well. You're in a west where you have a chance to get the four seed. So I don't really know what the trade is for them. I wrote down Aaron Gordon, sabonis as a wild card if they wanted to get really crazy and get time lord and Marcus smart in there and just really make a run. And then Hal Burton, I know they've liked for a while and just in case Sacramento, you never know with them. Anybody else I'm missing? I mean, to me, there need is still organization. It's not even a good point guard. It's a guy who organizes their offense. And that's where smart of late has been so valuable. It's just getting the ball to the right places. They're trusting him to do a little bit more to the point where if you're Boston, I'm not sure you can afford to give up Marcus smart with the way he's playing for you offensively right now on the role he's filling there unless you're getting a guy you know can do that. That's where Jalen Brunson gets really interesting. Maybe you could talk yourself into Derek white if he's available from San Antonio. I could see that fit being okay. Other than that, and this is kind of an interesting side effect of the way that position has evolved is there are a lot of good guards in the league right now. There are a lot of guards who are available right now. But how many of them really specialize in getting an offense into its stuff? That's just kind of a skill set of a bygone era in a lot of ways that kind of like game management, mentality, but not just being a past first player, getting the ball to the players who need touches, getting you through your possessions, getting you through your priorities, there aren't a lot of guards available who do that stuff other than Jalen Brunson and at times Marcus smart is pretty good at that. It's not always there for him. But I think he's better than what a lot of the market would offer you. I was looking at Utah pretty hard and Mike Conley and trying to figure out if there was a Boston Utah thing that could work there. I don't think they would punt on Conley. He's pretty crucial to them, especially with ingles out. Yeah, that's where I landed, but first I was like, all right, smart Conley, how does this work? If those were the two principles and we put some more stuff, maybe Richardson's in there too. Maybe it's smart Richardson for Conley something else. Utah's way over the tax and I think I'll be interested to see what they do because that's a team that could also just send Joe ingles to OKC. And because he's out for the year and offer OKC 3 million bucks and, you know, removing the protections of some pick or sending a future pick or whatever. But I don't think they want to pay the tax attempt they have. But yeah, I was trying to figure out because Conley is the type of guy that would make a ton of sense for the perfect and if you're Utah and you can't really win with the team you have right now, is it worth using Conley and maybe even the angles contract try to throw stuff together? I think Utah's kind of stuck with what they had though, because I'm with you. I think Conley's too crucial for them and they'd be too afraid to do that. But you could argue, well, then she would have, you know, you basically just steer the offense to Mitchell. Yeah. And try to try to build the different.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"jason richardson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"But I think Brooklyn is pretty emboldened on the FU stance with the Simmons hardened trade. This is my understandably so and if that's the case for Philadelphia, you do wonder how soon this turns to Bradley Beal as the next target. It stayed me in lowered, and then it's James Harden. Does it soon become Bradley Beal? Is that what it's going to be this week? And ultimately, though, everything that you hear about the wizards with the people you talk to around the league is that Bill would like to stay and sign the supermax and that the wizards are shopping. I mean, you hear definitely no doubt about that. You hear a ton about Spencer did witty. I mean, even he just the other day was saying he wanted to be the leader in the year and was told to stop and there's been a lot of talk recently, I believe I said on the mismatch last week. He's the guy that could be on the way. Teammates don't love him there. But what are you going to get back for Spencer Dinwiddie? What are you going to get back for some of these guys, Daniel gafford's out of the rotation now? Because Thomas Bryant's back, the team just I just don't know what you can do to properly build around Bradley Beal as the second best player on your team. How do you get to that point where it's hard enough to find any star that builds caliber? Never mind somebody better that puts him into the idealized role for him. It's hard to do. That's why I think training Beal if it's there, that's the path to go. I don't, to me, I don't see Bill any higher or lower than sabonis. So that's another trade that I think I would think about if I was both teams actually. Because I think they're around the same. I don't think either of them is a top 25 guy, but if you're going to expand the list to top 40 top 45, they're in there. There's one more fun thing about a Bill Simmons thing. You've gotten to know Joe house over the last 6 years. That kind of voice them on everyone that works for us. You've got your own text with him. You've gotten to feel for his personality. What's more fun than the thought of Ben Simmons on Joe house's team? Standpoint, what's going to be better than that? The text would be amazing. It would be interesting. I can't wait. I can't wait. I think knowing how says I have for 34 years accounting he'll throw himself into Simmons initially and pretty quickly turn on him. That's how it's gonna go. All right, I am now up with the second pick in the penetrate deadline draft. I'm glad they're still on the board. There's no way they're getting to number three. They have lost at the time of this taping. 6 in a row, including one by I'm doing some math. Oh, 53 points. That's a tough loss. The Sacramento Kings. I watched them. I don't know why the team was constructed the way it is. They have too many point guards. They have guys that don't really make sense. They have a team that doesn't seem like it loves playing with each other half the time. Clearly needs some sort of a move. I think the vultures have been circling them for two months. I think everybody's trying to steal Halliburton from them. I think they're smart enough to steer people toward Fox, while claiming they don't want to trade Fox. That's my first thing with them. And you can answer this. Is Fox even a trade asset at that contract where you're paying somebody, you know, not max, but under the max, but still big money to basically be a bottom half of the league started point guard. And I'm throwing away the stats. I just don't think if he's your point guard for that money, that means he has to be one of your three best players. And if he's one of your three best players, I think you're 500 or worse. What do you think? I think with Fox, it's similar to the names we just mentioned about the wizards. It's like a bonus type. Or maybe even a Brandon Ingram as a surprise name, something like that. You could also go the other way and say maybe Sacramento should trade Fox for like multiple pieces and multiple picks rather than the one big name player like a Ben Simmons because for a long time, that's what it was. Everybody's talking fox for Simmons and you get the wode reports saying they've pulled out. They don't feel like it's realistic to get Ben Simmons. Are you buying that? Or do you think they could easily just slide right back into the Simmons sweepstakes? I am way more down on Fox as a trade asset than others. In other words, Fox can't even get them into it. You're saying they're going to get picks for him. I don't see it. I think Ingram sabonis BO. I think he's a level below that with the context. I agree with you for what it's worth. So the Celtics. If I wake up tomorrow and it's like, we've traded Marcus smart, Jason Richardson and Aaron nee Smith for Darren Fox. I would like flip out. I'd be like, what are we doing? I love the Jason Richardson shout out. Yeah, Josh Richards. My dad calls him Jason Richardson, and now I'm doing it. He's the same. So I do think though, they should trade, they should try to trade Fox if they can, the Knicks who will be coming up in this draft are another panic trade candidate who need, you know, I could see them trying to move on Fox, but he go around the league and it's shocking how many teams are happy with their point guard. You know? And I think that's the biggest problem when you're trying to trade somebody like fox is like, here's the guys, make big money at the most stacked position in the league. Like Dallas, everybody seems to think they're going to trade jaylen Brunson or they might. And if I could have jaylen Brunson for what he's making this year and then I can sign him to a four for 60 or four for 7 hour much rather have that than deer and fox for like 35 million years. So I think they're a little handcuffed because everyone's just coming for them for Halliburton. And I think they're smart enough to realize we shouldn't trade this guy if this many people are asking about him. I wouldn't trade him, would you? I would not trade Halliburton. I would not feel good about even trading him for Ben Simmons for that matter. Me too. I just want to feel good about that. I think Halliburton is one of those guys who has all the winning qualities you look for. You see him taking some of those sidestep three pointers that he's been hitting the last month or so especially over the weekend. This guy is showing flashes of being more than just a good defender, a good passer, a good spot op shooter. He's showing the flashes of a guy who can generate a shot for you at the end of the clock. One of the best players on your team. And with Fox, look, Fox is a good player. And I believe we've talked about him before, is neither of us love him as a player. But he's a good player. I mean, if you're getting creative here for the Sacramento, when you're panicking, you don't feel good about what you have. What is it that you might be looking for here? Because I'm thinking about the teams that might need a point guard. Could it be like maybe New Orleans? Somebody like that? What more are you giving with the Aaron Fox to get Brandon Ingram? Like, how much more does it take to close that gap? That's the type of stuff that I'm thinking about if I'm a kings fan. How can we trade deer and fox into something better that fits this team? Fox reminds me of a super rich man's version of my issue with Dennis Smith junior when he was on Dallas and everybody was telling me who's an asset. So he's averaging 21 and 5 this year, right? I think there's a lot of guys in the league. I call this the Jeremy grant role. If you're gonna get the minutes and the possessions and the shots, there's a lot of guys, so I think you can get to 20 points a game. He's shooting 24.8% from three. When you watch him at the end of the games, I never liked the decision set he makes. You know, and I think if your point guard can't shoot, you just become way easier to stop. So let me ask you this. If they went, let's say they wanted to just get out of the contract because they're going nowhere anyway..
Celtics Beat
"jason richardson" Discussed on Celtics Beat
"Would be my idea. And given what's going on in Sacramento, you'd have to hope. I think with the ownership there, you just, it's hard to say what they're going to do, they're not going to probably not going to do the logical thing. They haven't at all in the last 6, 7 years. But that would be the logical thing for them to start looking to tear things down and rebuild. And if that happens, I think the Aaron Fox could be had. You know, whether the Celtics could put together the best package, probably not based on players, but if they are willing to include the full slate of picks, then that would probably change. I've seen a number of people out there and it's a growing list where you know it was always like there's the market smart defenders, right? I mean, there's find me a more polarizing athlete in Boston right now. You know, I'm not sure you can. Once upon a time, was Al Horford or two go ask or somebody like that right now, it is very clearly to me Marcus smart. And you know, you've had the market smart defenders and you've obviously got the camp that has never liked him and doesn't do any, you know, go for any of the beyond the box score stuff and hashtag winning plays and love him and trust him and all that good stuff that we who love Marcus smart that in this house we do not slander Marcus smart. All that stuff, you know, that those of us who just swear by the guy and pray at the doorstep that as Marcus smart, we certainly don't want him gone. But even those people, some of them have gravitated not to the other side, but to the look, if you gotta shake something up, the guy who you move is Marcus smart. You know, it's a movable contract. It's now it's a contract that's got a little weight, little meat behind it. You can get a little more for it obviously than before when he was making 6 million bucks or whatever he was making. Are you in the camp that Brad Stevens should be exploring moving Marcus smart just to create a change around here? Yeah, absolutely. And that's something that happens really around the league where, you know, everybody's either on a max contract or a mid level or below. You know, that's you get the guys who are on the 14 $15 million deals, which are rare and rare going forward. And that's where you can kind of package some things and try to make it happen. As smart as a guy who does have value around the league, I think one of the problems of had is they've asked him to do some things that he's not really qualified to do. I don't think he's a starting point guard. You know, I think he's a guy who, you know, a fantastic 6 man, you know, bulldog off the bench type. But they're asking him to do things that I don't think it's qualified to do. Another team might see it differently. And that's where you try to get some done. So you package him because 14 million this year, you know, Richardson at 11 million. He's got just the one year next year. So that's a pretty movable contract. You've got hurt and Gomez at 7 million. You know, now you're up to $32 million. So, you know, if you want to get somebody like a deer and fox or Brad veal, I don't think they'll go that direction, but if that were, you know, now you're in the ballpark where you can start talking about those players if you package the first round picks with them. But it's not going to be easy. But I do think that that smart because his contract is manageable because he does have value around the league. That's something where you can get something done. Just putting it together a package of Jason Richardson and Al Horford. It's not going to get you very much. I'm framing this, I guess, and kind of an insulting way and it's not intended to be because he's a brilliant basketball mind and I certainly am not. But Brad Stevens being new to this job as, you know, as pobo as president of basketball operations, does he know what it is that he needs? Not once, but needs specifically to take them to the next point, places that he has been as a head coach now as an executive to lift them out of this kind of seasons long funk and put them back where obviously everyone wants them to be is does he have the right head for it at the moment? You know, I think so. He's got good people around him. You know, Mike zarin's still there, of course, with his level of experience. And you know, yeah, I think that as a coach having been in the locker room with these guys and having, you know, knowing the pluses and minuses and the buttons that he needs to push here, I do think that he's got certainly a different perspective than what Danny ainge had and maybe the right perspective having been that coach. If you have the other guys in the front office from the video that will help you out with the details of okay, we're dealing with this team. This is what we've got to look out for. If we're dealing with that team, then it's this. This is what they're going to. You know, all those little details that you get to learn from dealing with other GMs with brand does not really have much, much contact, basically in his career, you know, going back to before the Soviets, of course, just doesn't have a whole lot of NBA experience. So that's going to be an issue, but he's got enough people around him who can help him navigate that as long as he can keep it in his head as a coach what he thinks he needs. And that's going to be the real the real challenge for him is identifying that. And then just focusing on it and focusing on where can I find, in my opinion, it would be a breakdown the defense kind of point guard, but he's determined what that thing is. And how we can best film. Again, 14 and 14, you know, play in status right now, Boston is obviously been mediocre. There have been a lot of key injuries, a lot of guys, jaylen Brown, Al Horford, among them that have missed significant time Horford now in protocols for the second time, you know, just this season. But I don't know, part of me wonders like Evan and I were talking about this just before we came on is just Brad Stevens get enough credit. On the other side of this, you know, for all the things that he still wants to do and needs to do, does he get enough credit? Like we've talked to you obviously about the Knicks situation in the past. And, you know, at the time, and certainly I was one of them, people looked at it and said, yeah, you want to unload Kemba Walker for sure. And they did so and they brought in Horford and Horford's been terrific. I think that deal has looked good and there were some people that wondered should they have gotten more than Al Horford at the time and all that Horford has, once again, when he's available, fit in very, very well, did this Boston team, but walker, in particular, look like, you know, you can get if you're the next, you can get Kemba Walker for 8 million bucks a year compared to what he was making before. That's an absolute steal. Well, out of the rotation, he is, you know, he is flamed out. He's not the guy that he once was. Evan fournier, there are a lot of Celtics fans that weren't upset he didn't get that contract, but were disappointed that he wasn't brought back, especially with what we saw in the Olympics, the way that he began this season, he sucked as well. So, I mean, you know, I'd love to just say like, well, you know, I don't know fortuitous or whatever, but I think on Brad Stevens part, you know, he read the waters right on that. Yeah, yeah, the Knicks have been very beneficial to Brad Stevens reputation. That's for sure. But no, you're right. And the things that have gone wrong with the Celtics this year, this is sort of the strange thing is I think what we would have expected the positives to be have not been positive. So you've had Jalen Brown with 14 games out because of injury. And that's a pretty tough thing to get over. Jason Tatum's had such a struggle from the three point line. He has not played bad at general by the way. I think he gets he gets way more.
The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"jason richardson" Discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"Jason Richardson who's more of a team oriented player. He's going to dominate the Josh Richardson sorry. Team oriented player. You think Jalen and Jason are going to are going to lament the touches that went out the door with schroder leaving? Oh, Brad, I don't get more touches. They might be like, okay. But this might be like, I can live with it. That's what I like. I mentioned this in my car. I don't think they care about dentistry. I do not believe that Dennis schroder. I'm sorry. They might actually want them to trade Dennis for a Dennis schroder. Monday. You can't yell at Jason Tatum? As a production trust. Something to line up to make a deal that includes niece men. I don't think they like him. Go ahead. I hope this bend that I know Atlanta and Schroeder. It's obviously they have been there done that brought him in the league. He was there forever. And they sent them back and write shred they traded them. So has anybody ever liked Dennis Schroeder? Me? No, I like him too, but I'm saying to his teammates, has anybody out. Ally, you're right. I love them Dan and I so listen. A little bit. Yeah, that's just like one of its fair and again. So I'm not worried about the message I'm worried about whether a team views someone like Dennis schroder as the guy who's going to put us over. You know who might be? Dumb enough to do it. The Knicks. 'cause the next one get back in New York. I don't know. What do they got? Another dose of Kemba? I said it. I said it. Not everyone will be a campa fan again, yeah. What's that? Probably when I said a tongue in cheek earlier in the week, I probably wouldn't do it. Even with the compensation from the next right now, what are you probably wouldn't do it Bobby? Well, here's why the percentage of you that thinks this might actually work. Here's why I would think about it, right, because you're gonna get an unprotected fresh round pick from the next this year. That's what 13 right now. Not terrible. I think the next example is no way the Knicks would give that. Well, that's the only way you're gonna get rid of that contract. Our guy who can't play right now. Oh for Kemba. Yes. Yes. You would take Kemba in that 13 pick. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, that's different. Yeah. And that may be part of your little one doing better than 13 when all said and done. I think it's I think the nicks are gonna slowly but surely. But campus at the top because he doesn't make a ton of money anymore. Now they want to get rid of four years contract. Would you take on 40 days contract? Bobby wood. No, just because you have to match it and that's sending out too much stuff. I would assign them to that, but no, I wouldn't trade for that. Kemba, I would do that. I would absolutely do that. And the first this year, now that's the sales scenario, probably, right?.
A List Podcast with A. Sherrod Blakely and Kwani A. Lunis
"jason richardson" Discussed on A List Podcast with A. Sherrod Blakely and Kwani A. Lunis
"Is he someone that you consider? I would consider absolutely. I think everyone is. But I think the guy if there's a guy that you could part ways with and it would do little if any damage to what you're looking to do, who I think has value is Jason Richardson. Or excuse me, Josh. Jason, you should play it for the wars back in the day for Michigan. Shout out, my man Jay rich. The other generation. The rajas Richardson is a guy that you absolutely. I think need to look at one because he's just been kind of in and out of the lineup for you with assortment of different health related issues. Two, he's a guy that when he's played, he's actually done pretty good. His mid range no shot is way better than I thought. And he's not and again, he, when he is played, for the most part, he's been good. But that availability has been an issue for me. And in particular, when he's a guy that if you were to take him out of the mix, you still have guys that you can kind of plug in and fill that void. So he's one that I certainly if you're the Celtics and you're looking to maybe get some future asses, whether it's a first round pick second round pick a young prospect that you may not play, but you think has lots of upsize. He might be the kind of the character that you could dangle out there. But I don't think the cell is going to do any major significant moves between December 15th and the trade deadline. I just think that they understand this is who they are. This is who they got. This is a young team that's still trying to figure out how to play not only play together, but just play at a high level in the NBA. And I'm not sure if the Celtics are inclined to kind of break that up right now. When they really haven't had a lot of time or even a decent amount of time to figure out what exactly are they parting ways with? You know, grant Williams is a name that people are like, well, you know, fragrant now, because the stock's not going to get any higher than that. The problem with that is you're not going to get anything even remotely close to grant in return. And if you use him as a sweetener to a bigger deal, I still think that it's going to be a bit problematic because whenever you're getting a return, I'm not convinced is going to be able to blend in with this team. I think you can add better talent, but can you add a better fit to the talent that you have? And clearly figured out how to fit together. So yeah, so your core guys are still trying to figure out how they fit together. And so now I'm going to add this other dude from some other team..
The Cedric Maxwell Podcast
"jason richardson" Discussed on The Cedric Maxwell Podcast
"The song gonna get into <Speech_Male> another opponent's face, <Speech_Male> you know? Guys <Speech_Male> like Dennis Schroeder, <Speech_Male> guys like Jason Richardson. <Speech_Male> These guys will get into people's <Speech_Male> faces. Maybe <Speech_Male> that is that <Speech_Male> sort of <Speech_Male> energy <Speech_Male> will be contagious because <Speech_Male> that's exactly what this team <Speech_Male> needs. I would <SpeakerChange> love to see <Speech_Male> that from Jay Leno. Or <Speech_Male> <Speech_Male> they need to punch them <Speech_Male> out first, <Speech_Male> not be so <Speech_Male> <Speech_Male> and then, you know, <Speech_Male> start these games off, <Speech_Male> listen, <Speech_Male> you gotta <Speech_Male> you were embarrassed last <Speech_Male> year when 36 and <Speech_Male> 36, <Speech_Male> you got <Speech_Male> dumped out the playoffs <Speech_Male> in 5 games. <Speech_Male> Start this schedule. <Speech_Male> That first game <Speech_Male> in New York <Speech_Male> punched the Knicks in <Speech_Male> the mouth. <Speech_Male> Let's start out <Speech_Male> two and four, <Speech_Male> put <Speech_Male> make a statement <Speech_Male> to begin this season. <Speech_Male> Be mad. <Speech_Male> That's the worst <Speech_Male> thing I liked when <Speech_Male> it was like Jay Crowder <Speech_Male> and Marcus Morris. <Speech_Male> <Speech_Male> They came <Speech_Male> into the arena like <Speech_Male> the max <Speech_Male> Celtics did. <Speech_Male> Like, where <Speech_Male> Boston <Speech_Male> and <Speech_Male> we brothers in green <Speech_Male> and we hit a kick <Speech_Male> your ass. Like <Speech_Male> be affiliate in that <Speech_Male> playoff series. <Speech_Male> <Speech_Male> <Speech_Male> Those teams did. <Speech_Male> We in here <Speech_Male> in LA <Speech_Male> and Staples <Speech_Male> Center, we <Speech_Male> here <Speech_Male> in Portland. We here <Speech_Male> in Utah. We <Speech_Male> had to kick your ass. <Speech_Male> We're Celtics. <Speech_Male> And we got fans <Speech_Male> here because <Speech_Male> travel <Speech_Male> well. You <Speech_Male> got that mystique. <Speech_Male> You had that aura <Speech_Male> that confidence. <Speech_Male> That's swag. <Speech_Male> They're selling animal <Speech_Male> swag in those couple <Speech_Male> years. Marcus <Speech_Music_Male> Hess wag, <Speech_Male> kimba, <Speech_Male> <Speech_Male> <SpeakerChange> Gordon was <Speech_Male> always hurt like they <Speech_Male> didn't have swag. <Speech_Male> They didn't <Speech_Male> have, you know, <Speech_Male> like they just didn't <Speech_Male> have it. <Speech_Male> And they've <Speech_Male> got to get it. Like, <Speech_Male> Jalen's got swag, <Speech_Male> Jason's got <Speech_Male> to have that <Silence> like <SpeakerChange> <Speech_Male> <Speech_Male> focus on the <Speech_Male> <SpeakerChange> officials <Speech_Male> toward <Speech_Male> getting in his <Speech_Male> opponent's ass. <Speech_Male> <Speech_Male> Trying to be not <Speech_Male> trying to be like, <Speech_Male> you know, who <Speech_Male> would direct a <Speech_Male> compete with that or <Speech_Male> hang out with them <Speech_Male> off the floor <SpeakerChange> over <Speech_Male> the summer routine <Speech_Male> USA, <Speech_Male> but try to <Silence> take their <SpeakerChange> heart out <Speech_Male> on the floor. <Speech_Male> I mean, you're <Speech_Male> right because <Speech_Male> you think about <Speech_Male> the great players in this <Speech_Male> league. All <Silence> of them have had <Speech_Male> that in them. <Speech_Male> Even as they <Speech_Male> say the greatest, <Speech_Male> when Michael Jordan, <Speech_Male> how many times <Speech_Male> we've seen Michael Jordan <Speech_Male> step up to <Speech_Male> somebody on the other <Speech_Male> team said, I'll kick <Speech_Male> your ass right <Speech_Male> now. Or <Speech_Male> with Reggie Miller, <Speech_Male> Reggie Miller, <Speech_Male> small as <Speech_Male> he was, wasn't <Silence> afraid to get up and <Speech_Male> somebody's face. <Speech_Male> That is <Speech_Male> what I want <Speech_Male> those two guys <Speech_Male> to and I'm <Silence> telling you, if <Speech_Male> I saw <Speech_Male> <SpeakerChange> <Speech_Male> Jalen do that <Speech_Male> one time, <Speech_Male> I think I think <Speech_Male> I'd fall out of <Speech_Male> my seat because <Speech_Male> I just don't. <Speech_Male> I mean, <Speech_Male> I don't see <Speech_Male> that. I mean, <Speech_Male> I just don't <Speech_Male> see that. I think <Speech_Male> he's one of my favorite <Speech_Male> players. But <Speech_Male> to get to that next <Speech_Male> level, he's going to have to he's going to have to kick some ass and take some names. I agree.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"jason richardson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Or play. Let's get to the maps. Couple things at the maps luca. Easily on fan doe as the best. Mvp odds that's been the case the whole the whole year right a whole off season there over unders. Forty eight and a half. It's pretty high there. Magassa saying forty nine and thirty three will be halfway over for nine at thirty. Three in the west is nothing for the title. They're only thirty two one. So again. i mentioned portland's eighty two one for the conference or sixty one and then a crap division right. now they're minus two tend to win that division but the teams that division. They have memphis. Who would be their biggest threat. new orleans. Who's a mess doc about. Gm sewer on the hotseat. San antonio don't know what to make them and then houston so. We know there ben. Unless luke gets her douse as when the division west. No they got better. I think bullock is just an improvement over jason richardson. The one thing he can do is the thing they really need from that spot. Which is somebody who can hidden open shot and add the healthy dwight powell who they didn't have last year for most of the year and then have porzingas who look preseason. We're used to read in these stories. Everybody looks great. Everybody's is never been a better shape. Everybody's never been happier. I get it but it didn't look like he was right last year and every story. I'm reading is. This guy is actually physically right this year. He's way better and they had the carlisle thing. I'm optimistic on the forty and a half. I think i'm nick. I'm probably going to go over. And i think they're kinda stealth because luka have to be at least not in the conversation but at least adjacent to the conversation of what might happen with With the title of something weird happens with the lakers. There's this next group teams and it's like all right well if lucas the best player in the league next year they have at least be mentioned in a title conversation. Is it crazy to think that if something crazy happens with the lakers that there's a path for them if a weird phoenix. Two thousand twenty type situation happens that there's a path for this doused. I don't think so. I think you're right bringing in reggie bullock and to a lesser degree sterling brown. I mean last year. Richardson really really hurt. The team that was like the big they traded forum and then he just couldn't shoot by the end of the playoffs. He wasn't even the rotation so that he went from. Like this guy's gonna be starting to guard playing thirty minutes tonight to. We just can't even play you at all. So i think that's a massive upgrade just because the mavs have never had ton of three d. guys they either of guys tim hardaway who are good shooters can't defend a richardson. Who couldn't who could defend but couldn't shoot. So now you have bashing the backward yet bullock and brown. And i think what gets forgotten is just how great hawaii was in that first round lashed or like kurai in game sex. I was at the game and it was incredible. He had a forty five points and he guarded luca for big most of the game. He added to dig all the way in the bottom of his bag to give you an all time. Great performance for luke to beat luca pretty much while luca had nothing around him. And it's like i look at their west. I don't see our lenders out there. You know like that's the one guy. You're scared of in a playoff series. And i think kawhi leonard. Anthony davis everybody else's beatable in my mind. Yeah that was their kryptonite team and we knew it. And that was why the clippers wanted to play them which seemed like the worst idea in the world after two games but then it worked out. And if colli wasn't on on they could throw paul. George adam to they throw morris adam. Paul george is in the same defender. He was five years ago. But he's still above. Average morris is above average. And they just. They could at least make luca for points. And as you said when there's no shooters that you're really concerned about and then you have the weird porzingas piece of it. And they've said some weird stuff with porzingas like jason kidd saying we want to use them as a forward. I don't even know how to interpret. That i tried to put it through a weird basketball like all right. Take the weirdest things you've heard this week and put it through some translator. China understand it. Porzingas is a centers. Some foot three. I don't understand the even concept of him being as afford. What do you think kid was even trying to stay with that. 'cause they're going to start dwight powell as a roll. Man style means k. p. off the spot up off white pow on their plan together. 'cause dwight powell lincoln. We do as cash lobs. I don't think they'll close games like that. But i think for like ten minutes to game. He'll be spotting up off white pow. I think that's what that means. But how is that different than we did. Last year last year. He was just spotting up off. Everybody like whatever forward. I think of somebody who was like jason tatum. Mike you throw him the ball on the right side. And it's like. I said time clear out or somebody who can like. You're running a pick and roll where they're the ones who have the ball. You can't do that with porzingas. I don't i don't think there's any other way to use him unless i'm missing something. Well i think what kids getting at. I think it's like we're going to give him a few bones. Just in the low post you can jack up your eighteen foot fade away. We 'cause carlisle was like that is not efficient. Were not doing it. Get in line. And the corner i think kid is i think it is going to give him a few shots and say this will hurt our offensive efficiency but by giving this man of few shots. Maybe he'll try hard run. I mean maybe we'll try. Hard run defense is the classic big man right. we're to as big man of few bones and if it hurts our staff that hurts our stats. We need his energy on defense. I say this out of love and respect for kendrick perkins two thousand eight south. I enjoy his meteoric. Don't combat me catch a for. I joy at twitter. I'm a fan This was a strategy the celtics no casey's to us with kendrick perkins in the first six eight minutes of first quarters right. It run a couple of plays for him so that he felt like he was involved in the game. And then what you really wanted was the defensive rebounding so what you're saying is they're doing the perkins strategy. Were in the first quarter. Everyone's gonna stand around. They'll run like a couple of plays for porzingus which will probably based on the numbers. We saw the last couple years. We'll be pretty horrible. Mean his low post mid range stuff was pretty bad and he never figured out that foul line dirt game which to me is like if he wants to grow as a player the foul line dirk aim would.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"jason richardson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Something sometimes sometimes with rookies. That's actually the worst thing and you want them in situations. I kept mikhail. And the celtics where. You're coming off the bench for three years and working your way in james worthy was like that in the lakers With simmons i think it would have been cool if he was just on the pistons and they went twenty three and fifty nine and he did everything and he was covering everybody on one end and the whole offense ran through him on the other. End the embiid thing was has always been weird. I've just never liked the two of them together. As a combo for reasons like we saw that atlanta game where it's like all right dudes. You're still up. You know you're up twenty all right now. You're still up fifteen and you just the stagnation and it was like watching this. Jigsaw puzzle or some is china. Gm a jigsaw puzzle piece. That doesn't work. It's just got so ugly set. I'm sorry seth curry be that important. They traded sets jason richardson straight up for secondary and he their entire offense when when a beat has doubled It's pretty rough and the thing that mark is brings up about. Oh the warriors. All right j. Mon is a limited offensive player. He has those things that he's really good at right. I think simmons you know catching a ball on a four and three. You'd be better finishing at the cup. Say but he's not a better playmaker. He's not a better screen senator. He's not like he's. I don't think he's that much of a better offensive player dream on his on north on offense and then defensively at times could be the best defensive center in the nba. So that's the counterweight that you're dealing with win. Context context makes sense. Okay so you're limited on offense or defense like trae young putting forty on your head top anyway. I do man. I just so he should be out delete. You just saw. Rohe's here's here's this probably like this shooting thing is a tale like it's here right free. Throw the the refusal to shoot. Three's it's a tale that something's going on in his head. You can't win a championship with players like that. You can't win a championship while you literally have been so block. And what is your best players. You just can't do it. The difficulty is he shouldn't be on this t- right. He repeated houston or it'll toronto. He shouldn't be on his team. And now maury. How do you trade. Ben simmons you got hard for them and like now you know what you have got what you tired now and now the value is way lower. So does he. Does he sell the low of forty he might stick with. Just because even though is i think they thought they had that trade. I'm not. I'm not defending darrell. But i really do think they thought they were headed towards the deal. And i think brooklyn did the panic and just threw in a couple more packs trump them were willing to give up simmons and couple other gm's maxi oregon right. Light is larry. I was gonna get hard for citizen. Now that's done now you're looking at. Cj mccollum robert covington kfc's idea or you're looking at. Don't list it. Get brandon ingram forum. See you can say mccollum. Robert covington for ben simmons. You need to do that deal yesterday. Like like there's a context in which dole's guys fit perfectly around what joel brief bead brings to the table even with cj as a super limited offensive. I mean defensive player you got one of the best defenders top five defenders in the league helping you on the back into bullet at like. The context actually makes perfect sense. You know a guy that has one on one skills you know. He's going to be be there in the clutch. Incredible shooter all of these things. I mean. there's a context that you're that philly teams makes all the free consent. You can see it. Of course robert covington is one of those three theoretical three guys. He gets past there at every year. Hops out a different team. His deal is so tradeable he always gets moved. But like you but were. You guys surprised that they blew that lead yesterday. Because i was not. I like fries. Swear swear my son came in. He wanted to watch braves red sox and was like twenty twenty two near the end of third quarter house like we can turn this game yet. I'm not i 'cause at first of all atlanta's one of those themes that can just put up points fast and i don't trust philly. I just especially like what i've seen from embiid in these fourth quarters where you know it seems like the ideal length for him as thirty minutes. Thirty two minutes of that. It just seems like he dies in these fourth quarters. I thought it was so telling. Would he had those huge free throws in their down three with like twenty five seconds left. They cut them before shooting. Free throws his hands around his knees. And it's like this guy's fucking exhausted. I thought they learned from the previous game. I'm sorry i thought dot was like. Yeah no we're not going to do the sports feet and beat of in the game again. And they did they did. It turned into like bel air academy and he was visiting the ball. It was ridiculous with that. Said when collins banked into three itself all kinds of alarms back alarms. Because it's like all right when that shuts going in your your trouble because that cut..
The No Chill Podcast
"jason richardson" Discussed on The No Chill Podcast
"I student the guard you by looking if i look at your stat sheet and i've never seen a game and i'm like are you took nine shots. All threes zero free throws. I already know non-aggressive guide just going to sit around the perimeter looking for three zero offense so that means he's never gonna try the glass right that means he's not gonna put the ball on the floor. He's not gonna like catching shoot player. Just like i if. I can guard if i can guard you. Buy your stats. That's a problem. You know what i mean. You know twenty nine minutes to shots. Noah not a shooter no assists no free throws glue guy gu-guy someone. They're just filling up air. You know what i mean. So that means. I know i don't even have to watch your game. I can just read your stat line. Non-aggressive player non-threatening of this about young player and we don't know who they are. I mean i'm pretty sure they had college. That's okay but that was college. It doesn't matter. I mean trey young shoots forty times in college. I'm pretty sure he wants to shoot forty times doing so what i'm saying. You shouldn't be able. You shouldn't be stat guard. -able i shouldn't be able to look at your line and know what type of game you have. So thing about talent to is this is this is caught. Our attention lately is recognizing that talent in achieving the potential that you're brought into the league on so the question is a bust right and what is the bus. How do we define a bust in. Kwami brown has moment right now talking about that. A lot and people are questioning career. Twelve years in the league's bust. No okay so a bust is really this. The expectations of your gain in that moment at time didn't live up to it right. So your skill level and what you're doing right now and what you end up doing if you didn't if you if you if you didn't succeed on how the expectations were that is considered a bust. So so the real thing is this. Canon can an eighteen nineteen year old. Who's being drafted off potential meaning. It's not ready yet. Can he actually be a bust because of the draft status. I say no because they're being drafted on the potential of being good. Not necessarily what they are right now. So if you take kwame brown if you take darko and say all right all right. How good are you right now. Compared everyone knows. Where do we rank your actual talent ready. So if kwami brown. His talent at that moment in time to everybody in that draft was the best player in draft. No you know you you talking about you know guys who a player two years you know guys who have thirty this no. He wasn't the best talent at that moment in time but then this is a high school class. I'm part of this class. The class is being drafted off of the potential right. So you have kwami tyson. You have eighty curry. You have jot d you have a bunch of high school. Kids who bodies are ready for the nba. They're still kids right. League new kids still are they potentially ready to be superstars. No they're not written note or not ready yet right like so so the fact that we like tyson how how many years ties tyson. Play twenty shit yeah eighteen eighteen. I mean but if we'd take his stats and say are those stats a number. Three picks ads number four. Pick no no but his upside then was he was going to be a defensive hustle player. You know one of those grit and grind type of guys so if you restart that draft day and give those teams b-actor picks kwami still goes five top five. He's still goes top five. I think because you've got to remember no you the reason you because those teams were looking for bigs. So that means whenever we know everyone's careers so number one will be all right. Paul goes number one number two. You're probably you probably go with Zach randolph go randolph number. Two number three service you can. You can go for joe johnson but it depending on what the team needed to go for. Joe johnson me and tony parker. In that ma'am tony parker in that class. We going top ten. You thought you thought you were talking about a date. If they re drafted today we probably still because you gotta remember the teams need what they need you still so no matter. What if they're guard heavy. They're still not gonna go with a gar- remember everybody. The first guard i was taking was a shooting guard. Jason richardson. right is a shooting guard. The first point guard was into twenties. The first real point guard was in a twenty so it was a big manage draft so the big manasota getting picked so he was still be top. Five chason tyson chandler. Because you're still going to go off of his upside. You put them in a different situation right. You put them in a better situation like like people. Don't understand this one thing..
Road Trippin': Richard vs. Channing
"jason richardson" Discussed on Road Trippin': Richard vs. Channing
"Google feel ratliff would average six blocks on his contract here and other than on chill man a noble. He was still blocking chocolate to hand on two hands on the backboard and ship move plan. God damn l. brand was probably the one that kind of process so he was a nobody talks about him enough. Like auster man. I lied he came in and ninety. Five eighty nine played it wyoming. Why he was at wyoming in one thousand nine hundred ninety one that young play when he was in college in ninety one. Use a freshman. you're playing. you're like that he'll create l. Was a college at eighty nine. Was he really wasn't google every time you talk about grant hill training. I think it's so cool. And then like the other day when he was doing that game and he shouted you out. Because i just i feel like it's such a to your point like so many years between yet you played with one of the college's nine thousand nine hundred ninety. Two nine hundred ninety four grant was the man grant was like the guy for me who was like all right channing. That's not gonna work. You do this. We gotta do this. A if i'm here eight you'd have to be here at eight but you gotta be here fifteen right like i got stuff i got take care of. I'll go first. And then you could do. But then he was also. I mean you've got to enjoy this like he had come to his and just carry your body and then everything he was doing on the side like grant has so many little things that people don't even know he has largest collections crazy. He's now had a usa basketball. He's part owner of the hawks. He has his own venture funds. He's doing so. I was just trying to pick his brain it just over the years. I literally tech house. I do your trash on. Tv i like. Why are you taking your phone on the air. But like i think it's it does as players when you have vets who also have the ear. The coach right things go better like if the vet can say hey coach. We need a day like we need to guys go to dinner together. We need to do this or he says. Hey coach f all these drills. We need to just go. Who like stephen grant those guys. Same with jason. Richardson at a shockingly. Was on who was like..
Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"jason richardson" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"But that's basically what they did in the offseason right like they bring in james johnson they bring in More physical player. I mean they trade. Seth curry for josh richard. Richardson i feel like that was like that was a little bit of calculus with their off-season moves wasn't it and then they realized that okay. You know shooting is a little bit more important than having tough guys on the roster to go to bat for luka not sure i would put jason richardson and and charles oakley same conversation. But i get what you mean. It's just too bad. James johnson's not capable of playing more minutes and maybe he could be that role. They may have to find somebody. There may be designated bogue on. Get him upset. tell him john wicks coming. Get out there and get some revenge. Hey speaking of guys who have taken a lot of abuse this year zion williamson broken finger out indefinitely and the pelicans were really really upset about it. Executive david griffin called a press conference which they streamed online in which he just absolutely toward the nba league office. A new one blamed the officials for williamson's injury and said this was preventable. Contact the basket. He made all sorts of grandiose statements about how he agreed it was and saying that You know ziad absorbs more violence than any player sent shock do you agree with griffin or do you agree with the people who are saying come on dude tone it down a notch. So this is a fascinating topic in. I happen to write about it last week. on sl where You know i wrote about how. Zion is the most difficult player to officiate. In my opinion cinch shack for a variety of reasons. And then i i spoke to A the four a former head of the nba and the wnba's officials About what makes ion so difficult to To referee and so. I think on the particular play in question. Where's ion got hurt. I mean he's going for an offensive rebound and the ball just kinda jams his finger and it it gets fractured and david griffin argument is basically that this was compounding trauma on his body from a season of getting the crap beaten out of him his finger. His finger just finally couldn't take the final straw. Michael it was one hundred blow. That did it so you know. I think that i'm not a doctor. But i think that that that i'll probably push back on a little bit but it's been this really fascinating push and pull the entire season with zairean because everybody knows wins..
Lakers Nation Podcast
"jason richardson" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"So at the end of the game the Lakers actually won the Battle Points of the paint 64 to 60. 64 to 6:20 twenty points in the second half of the thunder so they clearly I mean it was clear. They made some adjustments there that stopped allowing those guys to slash in so easily the shade you'll just Alexander's and the way the lewd or they just stopped being able to get to the rim and score it will yes. Yeah exactly Louise the hell I said boxing out from the outside with question marks Louis. What I'm talking about is you've got the run with the man, right? If you've got say a lewd or kenrich Williams or whoever that's going to come flying in from the outside. If you are say Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, you can't just stand on the perimeter I watch him. And say oh I'll trizzle deal with him. No big deal, right? You can't do that. You can't just have your head turned and think about everything else and then your man next thing, you know, he's got the offensive board. You've gotta go with him and you've got to put a body out of that's it has to happen. It has to happen fact classic play and Lakers history. Ron Artest later known as M WP. What did he do? When it was what game I want to say game five against Phoenix. Yeah, the one 2010. Yep, that's it where he comes running in right Kobe shoots, the turnaround falls short. Our truck comes flying in and Jason Richardson doesn't put a body on him and I don't blame him. It's a big dude. Ron Artest. I wouldn't want to put a put a body on me there but he doesn't put a body on him. Our truck is flying in hits the game-winner cuz you wasn't paying attention to his man out on the perimeter that that happens a lot and I'm saying not saying it's a huge problem or anything like that, but it is something I'm sure that Frank Vogel will go off. For and the film room. All right, somebody mentioned know Gary Sheffield Junior Gary is actually in the process of moving and he is getting all of his equipment sent to him with the next few days. So don't worry you guys still see Gary Sheffield Junior on the show once he gets all set up and all of that. Let's give away another lakersnation.com license plate frame before we do the third man of the night, which is just technically run mentioned this before we went on could be the second man cuz 80 did not play. Okay, let's go with this. So Mister otey who was just in his element and I guess with that name from YouTube say Gasol didn't play much. So who's to blame? Who are you blaming? Is there anybody specific to that? You say just really had a poor performance tonight run, you know, no one was specifically bad. She was just a low-energy team performance. I mean Kyle kuzma really struggled to shoot the ball, but he made up for it with good defense and he and he got a double-double..
Premium Hoops
"jason richardson" Discussed on Premium Hoops
"So obviously they had a rushing lewis. I think no not rashid. I can't speak rashard. Lewis rashard lewis. I'm getting mixed see on the team at that time. Well yes so. They had rashard lewis. Vince carter in martian cortott and they traded them. I think it was twenty games in and then they got back open arenas which that did not work out. jason richardson. So you look at this team. The starting lineup is obviously dwight howard in the middle brandon. Bass hito turkoglu jason. Richardson engineer nelson. How many of those guys other than dwight howard are plus defenders in your your mind. Even when most of those guys are in their primary. No i was thinking the exact same thing when i was looking over this team and before we get into this people. Forget that jason. Richardson should be included. In the pantheon of dunkers one of those up there. Oh my goodness. I never played for. This is probably the best thing that ever played for. I think so it was he on the we believe warriors. Obviously that was the worst team. But i mean he was on the we. We believe words but he's like always guys left. I ruined all in on steven jackson. The jackson was not as good as jason. Richardson like ever but Yeah so you have that and then coming off the benching. You'd think okay. Well there's gotta be. Somebody comes off the bench to nope nope that's where you're wrong so go to arenas who is like three sheets to the wind with injuries at this point is not a good defender anymore. He he never was an awesome defender. He was like fine when he was engaged but he was like a total offensive engine. So i don't blame him for not being a great defender quinton. Richardson like j. J. rettig was in the top ten minutes on this team. We know about. Jj he tries not a good defender. Just not big enough or quick. Enough athletic enough.
KNBR The Sports Leader
"jason richardson" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"Yeah, I kind of have to be really good. You You have to make a high enough percentage. And Darryl, right? I was kidding him The other night on Thursday night when I worked with him that you know you were the best three point shooter. This franchise is known. So Steph came around. They were teammates together, but Dorell Wright, mainly in the corner. Hey, had all the warrior records for in game. Breaking Jason Richardson's record. And then as far as the season comes, I mean, I think he made 188 1 year and then Steph comes around and Steph was, you know, he was largely hurt. But he just put it out there So far, I mean to 72 to 61 to 86 to 4023 24, and he was He was not those years when he did that that five year chunk He played 78 78 80 79 to 79 games. So if he plays, you know almost all of them like those years. Now I the other question would be John. Does he have another 400 in him? Hey, make 402 threes is it's the unbelievable amount. Yeah, he did make a 3 54 and 8 18 19, which is the second most he's ever made, And in that year he played 69 games. He missed 12 games that year. So the year he made the 40 Children. He missed three. And that was here. They won, you know 73 games, So you played right to the end. They feel beat Memphis the last game to get the get the record, but in any event You know how far can he put it out there? If he has one more, you know, maybe four K. Thing was staff. It's like Barry Bonds. You know, Barry, it's home Run number 500 off. It was Terry Adams of the Dodgers and then, like a week later, he said, no home run number 600. What kind of hell did he go from? 506 100. Well, he had 73 the single season. You know, staff if he could put does he have another 403 season in him? Why not? You know he's gonna be 33. Yeah, the way you just the way you like it Well, he ended four K. Will it be beyond four K? I think could be beyond just because again, he's thrown up 11 per game and I don't see it slowing down anytime soon. I could see stuff. Another shooting 12 13 15 a game that's just the way the game is going, and so based again on pier volume, I think and you get over 4000, by the way, hardens fifth on the list of 23 62. He's not gonna have enough time, but he's gonna He's gonna be ahead of all these guys too. And then you have to go all the way down to J. R. Smith for an active guy at 13 LeBron of 14. So what percentage though I mean that systems Good point, and D'Antoni and Maurice system, the Rainbow Coalition that is ridiculous. So you know, basically Steph when he when he When he made the four or two We made five a game. That's why you gotta play 80 games. And make five a game to get your 400. That's hard. So can you make five a game? And maybe you're saying 11. You'd have to shoot even more, You know, because it's hard. You're not gonna shoot 50%. You could but that that's even high that his career's 43. So if you just say if you say it based on 43 Which is a high percentage. You just said hardened, hardened that 36 for his career. That's he's gotten better at step back, Daddy Eyes been the secret for him. He was not a good three point shooter. But now since he's perfected the step back, Daddy that step back three Hard to get to it, and he's become a better three point shooter the last few years, But I don't think hard I'll get I'll be somebody else. And I was kidding the other night it's gonna be can and curry. You know, stepson, right? May do it. I don't know, but I Yeah, because they three point and you know is Steph. The best three point shooter of all time. Yes, he is because he he also early in his career. He did not shoot that many shot five a game, but two. I think there are other players in previous generations that could Larry Bird Could have been. No, you're one of the greatest three point shooters. But, Larry, you know, it took like two again. They didn't take threes that the line just came in when Larry was a rookie. Good guys just didn't take him like they take him now, so that's interesting. How far out there is to get a native to put that number, so it's never broken. At least not broken and steps lifetime. We'll put it that way. Yeah, I'm looking at the list. I mean, it would take some of these guys and again. They're jacking him up now, but There's not anybody on the list that like I said right now, So what? I think it had to be somebody coming into the league. That right away is shooting 10 a game and maybe they could catch Curry on volume, But he may have that record for a while, because the guys that Or even somewhat close, I guess said hard and he's not going to catch him. Harden is a couple of 100 behind staff as far as makes now if Steph got hurt, or something like that may be, But then the rest of the guys like J. R. Smith, LeBron James. JJ Reddick Lillard. He's an 18 34. We were talking about him the other night. Darryl, Molly and me. Yeah. Maybe that might be a guy. He is the way things are going. And he Yeah, he's young enough holds Lillard. He's definitely younger than staff. Yeah, for sure. The 30 Year..