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Dallas Mavericks Sign Free Agent Frank Ntilikina
"The mass have a whole new front office in a whole new coaching staff. With jason kidd coming in. So i think there will be at least some sort of honeymoon. I don't know exactly. How long is all these new key. Figures get used to each other. But you're you're absolutely right. I mean dallas had big ambitions in free agency. They wanted to get kyle lowry. They thought lowry would be an ideal fit next deluca given his defense leadership being an old head the way and still shoot it lowry. They thought was ideal. Lowery went to miami forced his way there in a sign and trade and dallas's moves have also been just of the around the edges variety bringing in reggie bullock. I reported this week that they're close to signing frank ntilikina. That should happen but the mavs have not been able to make the splashy move and really. They're splashing move is going to have to be. Can they get kristaps porzingis. Back to the level he was playing at in the walt disneyworld bubble before he he sustained the second major knee injury of his
Fresh update on "jason kidd" discussed on The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden
"So Dominique, that's what I think are right. Dominique, with his career numbers, is in this, then mcgrady has to be. I agree. Dominique career numbers, 24, 6 and two. Some a great a little bit better a passer. Welcome. Not great pass, or Nick was, but he also had some really dirty points. His career was bad. Man could he score? Yeah. His scoring was just and he was also explosive and Bobby like he was, he didn't look it, but he was strong. He'd put the hammer down on the dunk and everybody would be like this. You're talking a big guy. You know, tall trees that were like, but Dominique at the end of the day. He had the same injuries Durant. And he had very similar circumstances. Came back and had just an out of world season just like crazy good. And then the next year started out career numbers and by the all star break. His knee started to break down. You talk about the other one. You talk about guys who cause bob mcadoo. I can not picture him. He had that one. He had that one year in the south of cuneiform that I just can't even 21 games. I can't fix your Dominique in the southern uniform. I could. I remember Bobby Xavier mcdaniel to the two of them. I was like saying to my big brother, I think we might compete this year. It was like Dominique Putin even jump over a piece of paper at that point. He was so on athletic. And he was the bassani and Celtics history at that point, right? Free agency. Free agency. Yeah. Think about that. Think about that. I mean, but really, like, Walton, that whole deal, the trade and everything. It was almost like free agency because all parties wanted to part ways. So that's how they dealt with that back then, I think. All right. Let's see if we can find some other points of agreement here before we get out of here. You mentioned Jason Kidd. We haven't hit on him. He's a lock. I don't know about a lock, but he has to be there. We have to talk about it. Yeah. When we remove right now, 55, right? Yeah, he's my 16th edition. So we got to get to 25 and then we start needing to make those cuts and you cut two people. I cut many more. So that's one way I have to start kind of. I only have two people that I could add. No, you cut two people. That's 7. Yeah, so you dad 27, yep. Yeah, I got some people on that last 25 that I want to run down to that. So where are you at on your final 20 or whatever we're on? I've added 16, you've added 15. I know you've had 16 too, because let's just go. You want to go one to one an hour or.
Jared Dudley Joining Jason Kidd's Coaching Staff With Dallas Mavericks
"Dudley has agreed to become an assistant coach with the mavericks. The forward spent the last. Two seasons with the lakers. And lebron wasn't thrilled about seeing him. Depart lebron tweeted quote congrats to my guy if this is true which it probably is but face palm. Emoji man leap. I'm getting good at reading. Lebron's tweets if i do say so myself shannon. Are you surprised by how hard we're onto this no Because a lot of times you look at the bubble. You never saw lebron without jared dudley. Anthony davis around when you see them out a group setting was normally. They're duds now what they call the dude anyways. Get so for me. I'm not surprised. Lebron lebron lebron geico's two guys. He understands they're gonna be tired that they leave and is always it's hard but that doesn't make it it. It's the right thing for a deadly to do at this point in time scale but that doesn't make it any easier on
"jason kidd" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"That's the guy. I want in a game for my life. I want that guy. That's just a toenail on the line. What a clutch shot that. That's not what lebron does. That's what he does so we just went away. What did we see him. Do in the gold medal. Game against france we saw damian lillard the other guy you put in the same conversation. I don't put him in the conversation with that guy. Because dame goes to the free throw line late in the game against france to is the game he goes miss. Miss almost predictably. I thought maybe miss one thing. He missed two of them. And what did k. d say next possession. They had a chance. He breaks for the basketball. Give me the ball on the imbalance from the the opposite in and as soon as he touches the ball. I said i turn to ernest a you can ask her. I said game over. Because he wanted the ball he wanted to get fouled and he marched right down to the other frito line. He is both shots. He's swished above eight. It was game over gold medal. that's who he is. He is a closer and a score. If you wanna debate lash shot if you want to debate a free throw. But that's not what they say and they said the game for your life. You do realize Game where you live. So that was a game winner. Take all you do realize even though those forty eight the comfort your soul causing you didn't win zach. Lowe even admits navy after kevin durant last calendar year. Maybe maybe a few fewer than half would take libra figure for second. Yeah man who is eighteen. Be the guy Eighteen that would even be mentioned would alone in his eighteen thousand. He mentioned what kareem is eighteen. Even mention names somebody else play. Robert perez live they so kareem and carl malone those were the two great player they even thought of for game. But you lied eighteen and as a. You know what help i won't. Even i won't even tom. Brady's forty four years old. And i want him differ sports gill. Okay but i told you if you just say any sport. I want the forty four year old forty four years old and i want him to save my life and if it's basketball and basketball only i want hells kevin thirty to thirty two yup. I want that thirty two year old. I'm sorry it's game over. He is the best player on the planet. And i think zach. Lowe's actually acknowledging. He's he's what general manager and the coaches neal if he helped me go nice. Try go even in your heart. If i had. We need to get a lie detector. Get attacked we need to get one. Hook it up to that again. We get what a lot of. Yeah no i should have. You guys hooked up all the way. We should do that for. I want your opinions. This story guys. Jason hid is getting some flack after excerpts from a janas onto kubo biography have surfaced according to the book in two thousand seventeen is head coach of the bucks kid called a less when it practice on christmas eve after he was upset about a loss against the hornets tonight before he cursed out players during practice telling them terrible and pieces of leaf. One anonymous player called it quote psychological warfare. Shannon does this signal trump for luca no because normally coaches learn from the mistakes. You look at coach belichick. You look at him in cleveland. Look at what you turn into. That's a fair point. You look at my chat hand in oakland. You look at what he turned into. in denver. You look at p. Carol look at p. caroline seattle stops at the jefferson new england. So skip a lot of time guys learned from their mistake. Co tony dungy tremendous career in tampa. He goes to indy and he every year. They're in the playoff vying for the super bowl. So a lot of times you learn from your mistakes but also give a lotta time coaches coach. The way there were coached. So maybe somebody jason kids pass. That's the way path past. And that's the way they called him and he thought that was the best way. Because jason kidd what other people say about jason kidd he's wanna go middle. He's one of the nba title. He does have the second. Most assist also noted it has got like fifteen thousand you got a bush was for jason. Kidd wasn't a boom as a player. So i just think he learnt. He's gonna learn from a mistake skipping they ask him the said. What did you learn. What would you do differently. Milwaukee and brooklyn relax and enjoy the growth of the team. More he also mentioned not being so hard we need to deliver the message so now skip. Someone have to tell him that. He knows the mistakes that he made and the correct. Those mistakes yeah. I don't think it. I think this is going to be good for lucas. Luca needs to be held accountable. Now it's going to be very difficult because he hadn't been held accountable before and he's had so much success doing it this way so initially. He's probably going to book but i. This is not easy. If you've had someone. I think the tell people all the time. The greatest thing to happen to me and my nfl career is that. When i went to had dan rea coat because they re old school he was hard as ale. And you know. I knew him very well when he was tom. Landry's number one correct. So everything they tom did he was. He told landed with his coach. Yeah he officiated. Under coach landry and dan played at south carolina cool so he brought us down now and college give you present three. You don't think anything about it. And maybe once i got to the league. It wasn't the price horrible. I saw the best complainer hill. I thought that's what i should do. The predecessor to loan to hard. Yeah but it prepared me for anything. That could come so if you if you weren't brought a pin that system like coach kopplin gathered jacksonville's killed. They got drafted there. What they knew when he went to the what the hell is. 'cause they had jim puzzle where she so gm and he coordinated fasel was. Yeah look i believe. He's learned his lessons. I believe he's learned from the mistakes. I think he'll be a better coach. Or and i think he took up something that everybody's not going to like every coach. They're going to be a lot of players. That low coach belichick coach lot plans rings. But everybody's not gonna like coaching style. And that's okay. okay. I do think in the end. This is at least a red flag for luca. If luca carefully reads this he's going to be on high alert for how is. He has really mellowed when he gets another shot to coach us in me here because i was pretty shocked. Janas included this much scathing material in his biography and it was interesting. I'm not sure i've ever seen this before. The biographer went out and interviewed several of the other players on janas teams. In twenty dean. Sixteen seventeen in. Milwaukee is jason coached to to get the more scathing just disgusting details because this is the kind of stuff for coaches today. Usually get you all put in jail abusive coaching savior. But without going into the gory details. It was christmas eve and they'd just blown a game and jason like their effort or the way they performed closed. The game in there were supposed to have christmas eve often. They'd all made plans with their families and said nope we're going to practice and we're going to practice hard and he ran them into the ground on christmas eve that they all say ruined christmas for all. I could barely walk after this practice. I don't know how you would have accepted that. Probably not very well. Oh we we. Bright as little christmas eve christmas day. Okay but the vote skip. football's different. You know how coaches football you've been around for forty years. I got but there was one player. Backup big name larry. Sanders and the honest book goes into gory. Details about jason. Call him a pc. You know what an terrible player running him into the ground. The quote and brandon knight. Who still in the summer league as we speak about how. He'd never seen things like that before. I hadn't seen anything like it since jason.
"When the olympics start will be the most talented team in tokyo. Hands down no question. Most talented team in tokyo with the roster that they have but this is like a five alarm fire right now howard. This loss to nigeria. I don't care if they win the rest of these pre olympic games which will take place through next sunday. This has to make you nervous if you're a fan of the team because not only is it this. The loss to nigeria. But you go back two years ago at the world championships where you had a us team. That was good. Didn't have probably better team now than they were back in two thousand nineteen but all nba players. They finished seventh. They've been seventh at the world championships. You have the seventh-place finish the loss of nigeria. How concerned are you howard beck about. Usa basketball. It's just an exhibition game. Chris oh no no. It's not just an exhibition game. Stop this team was thrown together over the last however many weeks they had what like three practices. I think i'll ever. Us team is thrown together. What are you talking about. There's no team. There's no no mid season practices for usa basketball. No but the nigerian team has been practicing. What i'm saying is some of the play in the nba though wants win the nba nba. A few of them play in the nba but that team has had time together more so than the team. Sorry brown coaching. that team. That i missed was that a facsimile of mike brown on the bench all season long. What what are we talking about. The warriors have been out for like two months kris k. Okay so two months. that's what matters. That's that's the number three three practices. Also they're still missing. I believe at least three guys because they're playing in the finals right now. Booker middleton chris paul get it. Yes not chris. Ball's not playing a holiday with the the what holland is your holiday. Those those guys will matter especially given that middleton and holiday are to the better perimeter defenders that that team. Usa has and if you look at the rest of team usa's roster. I don't see a ton of great defenders. There there are a few. I think those three guys by the way are going to be exhausted by the time they get to. They may well be. They may will be so. We're going to judge them. Judging when their whole judge when the games matter to strange to me like we don't judge nba teams based on the preseason but we judge team usa based on these exhibition games. That they do going into international competition. I feel like it's thirty. One point favorites. Why why is there betting line on a freaking exhibition better training but a little league baseball. Now country degenerates damn right. I didn't mean chris i'm with. Let's go monday. Nigeria money line. I just. I can't get too excited about this. If they lose the rest of the exhibitions does that mean something. Yeah that might be alarming if they're if they're still struggling to find some cohesion. That could be alarming. But i mean the talent is obviously their talent alone doesn't win on the international stage in style of game is different team ball matters. Shooting matters like yeah. There's a bunch of budget stuff that comes into play. But i i find the panic over this loss or at least the outcry to be a little bit much. So you don't take into account the seventh-place finish in two thousand nineteen. I mean that to me. It's the it's not just as game. The totality of it right. Like and i don't know howard like so in the early two thousands the world kind of caught up to the us ninety to ninety six thousand us. Gold maps then comes the two thousand two world championships in indianapolis and that's seven. The place finish was one of the worst worst outcomes in at least recent usa history. They got it together after that. They hired jerry colangelo. They bringing mike chef ski. They get their act together. Two thousand six two thousand eight then. They run off. Three consecutive years are three consecutive cycles of gold. Medals is argon. Made that like the world's caught up again that somewhere along the way and the last four or five years. The rest of the world has once again caught up usa basketball. I'm trying to understand this. I mean that's close games in those olympics cycles. No question about it. But i can't imagine the oh eight. Twelve or sixteen team losing nigeria. I can't exhibition or otherwise. I can't see it happening. No team and the and the one that followed it were built around like lebron koby. Carmelo enjoying wait. I mean that that groups at another level like as good as this group is that we're seeing right now as talented as they are after k. D. tatum's really good damian. Lillard is great. I mean come arbit- tatum. Bill lillard auto bio levin. Draymond dream ends up there in years but one has won some things. Jeremy grant jeremy grant zach living out of like. These are guys who have done anything in the nba yet. But they're all stars most they're they're also but are they to level of lebron kobe now but do you think is that what you're saying then is that what you're saying to be at the level you need to have like i'm saying the crop to win. I'm saying that if we're going to start comparing the twenty twenty one team to the twenty eight a two thousand eight two thousand twelve teams there is. There is not an equivalent right now. Lebron kobe laurent cobaine weight. And plus what we what. We called olympic. Mellow like carmelo. Didn't have the success in the nba. That some of his teammates did but carmelo in terms of talent level and certainly has resume like that group was at a whole other level. That group is a different level than jason. Tatum bam outta bios. Zach levine. Okay so not saying that you necessarily should have to have that level of time firepower to win an exhibition game against nigeria. Or anybody else. But i am saying comparing usa to itself different iterations of team usa. This one is not that one. This is not as dominant group as the ones we saw in eight and two thousand twelve. It just isn't what do you do like. What's the solution here. Like i mean i jerry. Colangelo deserves an enormous amount of credit for rebuilding that program when it was at. Its nadir mitra chefs. He comes in enormous amount of credit for what they did. But as we sit here in twenty twenty one like it's almost to me howard like the usa basketball rebuilding. The program became cool. Like lebron wanted to do it. Chris paul like dwayne wade. These guys wanted to do it and then they did it. And i think playing for usa basketball didn't become quite as cool as it was fifteen years ago. Like is that what has to happen like does not need to have like a fifth place finish in tokyo for all of a sudden the next generation of a-list stars wherever that may be in two thousand twenty four to come back into the mix and is that the only way this team can win. I mean i think we need to pay attention to the overall context like obviously one. These olympics were supposed to happen a year ago. They're delayed a year because of covid got durant out of it though like that right. It's questionable whether these the olympic should be happening at all still but along the way because of these back to back brutal seasons and everything else like team. Usa doesn't have james harden right now. Doesn't have anthony davis because of the injury doesn't have steph curry doesn't have kyrie irving doesn't have lebron kawai again. If your argument is that the second or third tier it sounds like sounds like insulting. Somehow but if you're saying that the next wave believe after those guys should still be good enough to dominate on the world stage. Maybe but if the point is that the team as best are they still. Are they still able to win. Gold fairly easily. Your probably but a bunch of them aren't on this team right now because of injuries and just the stress of the last year or two so this this is not necessarily representative of the best of the best right now. It just isn't and yes. They should still be good enough to win. Yes the world has caught up to some extent. No the the group that at nigeria's put it put out there last week. Does not leap off the page improbably. Us should've still want it. But again i exhibition game after like three practices. Let's see what happens with the rest of this. This schedule out brought mellow back. I mean he's not what he was four years ago. Eight years ago twelve years ago but the guy knows how to play international basketball. He might have sat. maybe. I guess. I didn't really. I assume that he just want to keep. He didn't kind of like four formerly re retire from the olympics. But it'd be pretty much says like i'm done like lebron kinda did to get talked into it. I feel like. I don't know if i was if i was the usa team would try really hard to get carmelo blake because his style. Whatever it is to the nba is perfect for the national basketball. He's a really good or national basketball player. On this subject damian lillard. He spoke for the first time. Since the hiring of chauncey billips. Only listen to what little had to say about his future in portland. I'm prepared to go in and do my job every year. Like hopefully we make strides over direction and could become a better team a new coach notice. That's where i am. What soured it sounds like. Lillard is at least nominally on board with going back to the blazers. But if i'm a team out there with assets. I don't listen to that response and say well it's over damian. Lillard is back on the same page with the portland trailblazers. If i'm a team with assets i hold onto those assets because it feels to me like the blazers might be one like sixteen to start from blowing that whole thing up with louis mccollum on the way out the door so get the sense now. That seems more likely than not that damian lillard at blazers training camp. He's in ablaze uniform. He starts the season with the portland trailblazers. But if it doesn't work with chauncey billips early and you get close that trade deadline. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see portland decide. Look we've got a. We've got to do something here and opened the door for damian lillard trade. What do you think. I think that nothing has changed. I think that his remarks last week because he sounded a little bit lukewarm. Or just you know you hear one of two things. Well you want to hear one thing if you're a portland trail blazers fan or if you're just looking for any indication that lillard is all in your you want to hear him say listen. I know things are rough right now. But i'm all in you know this is. This is where. I want to be you to repeat all the usual talking points that you hear from players in his position and that we've heard from bradley beal that we used to hear from james harden houston. Which is a win in phil in city fill in the blank with the city. I want to win here. I don't wanna go somewhere else. You know we're going to get this right blah blah. He didn't go down the usual list. And so i think it left open. Some interpretation but getting has changed like the disappointment was clear when the season ended. Some of the things have happened since including obviously the the the train wreck away they went about the the coaching search and lillard. Being caught in the crossfire. There at feeling heat from fans about chauncey billips being selected and so. I don't think we should expect he's going to be rah. Rah right now The trailblazers have a lot of work to do. But we also have not even hit the summer yet. Like there's the draft hasn't happened yet. Free agency hasn't happened yet. There's there's a lot of work to be done. And i think if you're damian lillard which you're probably doing is internally saying here's what i need to see happen externally saying you know what let's let's wait and see i mean you see. He can't he can't say publicly the same things that he's telling say neal o'shea right about what the the state of the roster i i would think that there are some very impassioned debates or discussions being held behind closed doors about what they need to get this thing right and if they can't get it right the he might shift is his stance about staying there long term. But that hasn't happened yet that we know of. What do you think the most interesting potential conversation is amongst players over these next four weeks like i'm kind of curious what jason tatum bradley beal talk about. Tatum and beal close friends dating back to their highschool days both went to the same high school bill with something of a mentor to jason. Tatum actually got him involved with his trainer. Drew hanlin which helped. Tatum elevate his his personal skills and they've talked about how happy they are to be playing together. Played the all star game together for the first time beal last year of his contract. Like you know we've seen these conversations yield real tangible conversation. You'd like to be a fly on the wall on for any of these guys in the next couple of weeks. Yeah i mean look we. We have a history now going back over a decade. If we're to believe that the that the heels were formed in part through team usa activities. You know which is true which is true. That's that's yielded an extra things guy. You know guys who you mentioned. Tatum and bill because they were already friends but guys also become friends through this experience right and then they start getting the ideas about playing together. Like oh hey. This is a lot of fun. Let's do this again in the nba. So there's i'm i'm sure some of that is is happening. It always does. Who else in that group. I mean man. If any of these guys that'd be trying to recruit bam out a bio but he's too early in his in his contract with miami to pry him loose from there And you know the heater still a pretty potent team but you know jimmy butler is up there in miles and outta bios future won't necessarily be there forever. That's the way it goes in the nba. I think tatum has the potential to be like the biggest recruiter. They're like he's about to start the first year of his max level extension. He can recruit bill. But like you can also does damian lillard like. It's great to play in boston. I love it here. Answer some questions of my have a playing on the east coast for the first time. Like i think data might be boston's best asset at this point. Yeah again some of this comes down to bradley. Beal's coming up to that point where he has the leverage to task out because of his contract lillard under contract for several more years and so he's not in that position. So what if it says. Like i need to go like. I don't foresee the blazers being no finish your contract. Just don't see it. i think right. And they would work with him on a deal to sure but directing it is harder so beal can use the leverage of his free agency to say well if you send me to team x. I'm not gonna resign there. Which then blows up that deal and he can direct himself to the team he really wants to be at lillard would have a harder time to doing that. Because he doesn't have free agency looming two to play that card. Yeah well i encourage any reporter. That's in tokyo tatum. Beal and lillard talking to each other. Just take a picture and then let the internet go wild crazy because it will unquestionably last thing for you. Howard the breaking news. This week in the coaching ranks. Is that jamal moseley is headed to orlando moseley of course last with dallas. A really well respected assistant coach there. Who was a candidate for that. Maverick job before. It went to jason kidd my immediate reaction to that higher howard beyond i think being an excellent choice for orlando is that we're gonna look at at moseley and jason kidd on parallel tracks. The next couple of years moseley. There was a strong case to be made that he should have been elevated to that head. Coaching job he'd been considered for other head coaching jobs. Before most recently in new york he had by all accounts a great relationship with luka doncic i understand bringing kit in he's got a history with dallas and as riccar lau said publicly having a player that played the game like kid and having a player that plays the game like don-shik make some sense to pair those two guys together. But there's always going to be as i watched these two situations unfold. I'm gonna wonder you know. Did the mavericks make the right choice. Leading jamaa moseley go and bringing jason kidd in and there's so many variables in this the first being at orlando's in step one or maybe even steps zero of a massive rebuild right there in the negatives right now. I think there's still maybe more fat to trim on that roster before they really bottom out. Yeah and you know you talk about trying to build around. You know markelle foltz. And and jonathan isaac jonathan isaac for so long. They're getting hurt and he's a great player but they've loved writing in a weird way john stays healthy. He's still more of a complementary store right like he's he's a potentially defensive player of the year at some point. He's not a guy who you're building an offense around though and marquel foltz okay. He he got himself back on track in orlando. He has a career now where he didn't have one but he's not a foundational building block. Come on like that's crazy so the roster doesn't have much talent jamal. Moseley's is coming into a situation. Which a lot of first time head coach is committed to which is all right. There's a lot of work to do so You're gonna have to do a lot of development. You're going to have to take a lotta lumps in the win loss column. It's gonna be rough going for the first year or two or maybe three. Let's see how they can get things going. But you know as it has been a certain other like kenny. Atkinson came to look a completely hopeless situation in brooklyn but was known as development coach in atlanta. And sure enough. Everybody who went there. Joe harris spencer. Dinwiddie jared allen versus lower. First round picks. Guys who were you know whether they were reclamation projects whether they were low picks everybody seems to get better the second they went to brooklyn and play kenny atkinson and his staff congenial. Moseley have the kind of effect in orlando can the front office. Get him to kind of guys. That will thrive in that in that kind of environment and carve out careers from cells and carbon identities. Jamal moseley has a lot going for him. And we've heard like many great things about it but we often hear great things about assistant coaches who don't end up panning out so i always. We have to caution ourselves on these things. Because i thought. Brian shaw was gonna be a great head coach and he was. Everybody loved him all the players sung as praises when he was associate head coach under frank. Vogel indiana he goes to denver probably just the wrong guy at the wrong time but he hasn't had another shot since then but that went really badly. Brett brown was really great in in some respects for the for the early years of the process and then suddenly. It seemed like they'd hit some sort of ceiling. Eager kokoschka of had been talked about for years is a great assistant. Coach didn't work out. Swells head coach in phoenix. David dale bumpy ride in memphis and then disastrous in new york. We just don't know like luke walton. Another example like there are plenty of coaches who as their when their assistance. We hear and see the best of them and then you know some of them be go on it and have great success coaches. I mean tyler has been fantastic. Mike malone has been fantastic money williams. Nick nurse dwayne casey a lotta longtime assistance. Get their shot and then you know it. It works out in a dozen. It's all contextual. It's all just the opportunity you have the thing for dallas is. They went with a guy who has experienced jason kit. That experience was not necessarily good experience. Like i think most people around the would look at what he did in milwaukee in brooklyn and say. I'm going to steer clear. Maybe you'd rather have the the unproven. Jamal moseley versus the somewhat proven jason kidd but. I don't think we'll know what the right choice was there for a while yet. Because it's it's gonna take some time before we can evaluate moseley as head coach. I maybe jason kidd learned something in two years as an assistant. I mean that happens. You know working with lebron for entire for two entire seasons working under frank vogel maybe picked up some things that'll be useful to him as a head coach. Moseley to me. The key is giving him time. Like you've got to be committed to moseley for a minimum. I think of three years and more likely five years. And then you see what you have in head coach. You mentioned gore. I mean it's worked out for phoenix. Absolutely but i do think he got hosed out there i mean he only had one year on the job and that year was without deandra aiden chris. Paul had devon booker of course but that was not a good team that he was coaching. There i gotta get moses the because you want to see what the guy can do when you put that team in a position to win a great example to me is james breglio in charlotte. I mean berea. Was one of those guys assistant coach elevated to head coaching position in charlotte. Not great first couple of years there but when he was given players and chance to win he did pretty well. I mean up until lamelo ball went out the horns were really good team and i think they will be a good team. Going forward in part because of the borrego is a pretty good coach. I want to see this magic team. Invest heavily in jamal. The you're the guy developed these guys and we'll keep you around no matter what the won loss record says until you get a chance to win then you judge like brett brown six or seven days since brett brown left but i can see the for letting go of brett brown. I mean they had a talented team and to a degree the underachieved. But you've got to let the coach get a roster on that level before you really make any decisions about whether they can coach. Yeah well and that's the thing about. This is what set up says apart. I think the good organizations from the bad ones is that you you decide when you choose a guy. Especially if he's a longtime assistant not a guy with head coaching experience. And you've said we believe in this guy. This is somebody who's got a great trekker record as an assistant. We're going to first opportunity. It's your obligation to when you say investment. Yeah it's time investment. It's a give them all the tools to succeed. Give him the time to succeed. You've decided you believe in him. So stand behind that have the conviction to stand behind that and take some bumps along the way you know maybe maybe memphis and or the knicks should have stuck with david physed longer. You know we had heard nothing but great things about fiscal coming out of miami. Initially we may yet you know. Find out that he. He can be great head coach in the right situation. Maybe those worth rights situations. He might be one of those guys though. I love physios and assist one of those guys. Though the just the temperament is always important. Like the government like memphis yet. Some battles with market assault didn't work out your plus new york. You just might be one of those guys that doesn't have the right temperament to be is based on what we've seen a memphis in new york might be better suited for these ranks but if he succeeds in l. a. I think he'll get another chance right. Maybe i think the point being though that if you as an organization have identified a guy instead he we believe in him then. Okay then believe in him. Stick with them and make sure you've given them enough tools to succeed Is it a pulling the plug at the first sign of of struggle and that's what happens in the nba. too often. is that seems panic. You know the fans turn. There's some minor flare up. Oh the coach and player got into it. Whatever it may good teams that can happen on as well. And it's it's just. It's the way franchises. React so you have to know whether or not the guy is is is right and then stick with them. And so yeah. Let's jomo's should get a nice long here. She got a ton of latitude in orlando given where they are as an organization given the state of that roster. Yeah i agree. Howard enjoy milwaukee looking forward to hearing the conversation with the lazarus on friday. You can check podcast. Right here on the crossover feet again. Make sure you listen to howard's interview. Spencer dinwiddie from last week. It was really really strong. Enjoy -joy the mid west our. We'll talk when you're back on the northeast always a pleasure. My friend the newest player in the pre nba basketball landscape is overtime. Elite elite will begin playing sometime in the fall. And we'll be headlined by some of the top now. Former high school players in the country players would be paid minimum one hundred thousand dollars with some making north of that and have access to high level facilities training as well as educational programs to help. Get a better grasp on that. I'm joined by brandon williams the head of basketball operations for overtime. Elite and kevin ollie the former. Nba guard uconn. Coach was the head coach and director of player development bread. And i want to start here with you. Just kind of give me the ten thousand foot view overtime elite. What are the objectives. What what what was behind the formation of this league. I think any of us. Chris who've been around for a long time i've actually seen Sort of the downside of young players who entered into professional ranks to this point. It's been the nba Who are not ready. And so what does that mean you know not not ready to form and be stars or is it just not ready to be great teammates or is it not ready to be good partners. is sort of all that you know the idea that the work day is much longer than they know. And that there's more responsibility to be in a professional athlete The responsibilities to families and communities we just have to do a better job preparing them and here was an opportunity to be part of a program that wanted to address all that. It's not just about being a good player. It's like we wanna address the whole athlete. Hope so on. Three levels were hitting basketball. Easiest thing understand. I think businesses in our world is education And then there's brand you know. These young people now are moving at a speed that we aren't as older folks and they want to build things An earlier age particularly off the court so building a brand is important something that can last well beyond their tread on tire so we're hitting it in basketball business brand. That's that's that's really thirty thousand foot view. Kevin what attracted you to this job. Just like his dad is the whole person being able coach them from a mind body and soul Experience and understanding the mindfulness athlete I've seen it from a pro level. Got up tune into play thirteen years with twelve different teams so i understand like the different trials and tribulations you go through with a player not saying that these players are gonna go through that but is getting them more prepared if they do come into some certain situations where it's not typically going the right way. How can they manage that situation. So what they do today can echo into tomorrow and having the ability to kana paint on a black blank. Canvas is what a really attracted to me to to this you know. Ot league program we can take the player really shape the curriculum you not with teaching them about subjects. But we're really teaching them about themselves as well from media training From mental health issues. All the different things that come involved because we all know chris is stress. You know from success is a lot of pressures is a lot of people pulling at you. It's a lot of people won't certain things. But how do you deal with that from a player's standpoint where you can play when you get on the basketball court and half clear and not be caught up in the distractions of off the court issues. Um as desks desks were really kind of vocal. Spirit to give back in it and how these kids you know. Have these players be available at the moment of truth to make the right decisions and that was very important to me. Kevin as you mentioned you played in the nba brand. You played in the nba. As well i wanna ask both of you guys and kevin. I'll start with you like if this was available to you as sixteen. seventeen year. Old looking back. Would you have founded attractive with a definitely founded attractive You know i kind of thought the box anyway. I was from chris. Shaw from from from south central and i chose connecticut. So you places that. I didn't even know nothing about growing up. You always thought out the box and never wanted to go down a path that everybody was going down So i was always curious. And i think that's how my mom especially my mom. My dad raised me. So i definitely been curious of this situation. No no speaking now without you know took it. I'm not sure. But i think it really gave me another option to look at it and this is what we're trying to do not saying that the ncaa is wrong overtime. Leaders wrong or right. It's not about that. It's about if you really care about the student. Athletes you give them as much options as possible. And i think this gives the lee student athlete. Another option and i think you know it's a very Great option for them to have and if they choose overtime league we're going to give our whole heart to make sure they're developed on and off the basketball court chris i- jumping after coach It would have been interesting. Chris but i certainly would not have been a candidate i would. Let's just get that right. What what things that's important. We sit down going through just grassroots community and we spent months just talking to people educating about. You know what we're about who we are. Each of us has a reputation in some other space. Not here The this program isn't for everybody is not the right fit for everybody. We are cherry picking and a lot of ways. These are players that feel like they are destined for professional basketball. There are a lot of sixteen year olds. That don't know that yet and their parents aren't convinced that yet in people that support them. Don't don't feel that confidence yet. They may be another year away or two years away but this is not. This is not the right path for everyone. Twenty four athletes roughly twelve per class. We're looking at juniors and seniors and the truth is at this age. What was really funny about scouting them is everybody's skinny and like a lanky and underdeveloped and still has like a mountain of upside to you know to to get through before you can really see who they're going to be but you know if you have a young player like brand williams who's just dreaming of being an nba player but does not much certainty. That's even realistic We gotta be very careful about this approach In taking because there there are risks but for those that that have already established in this deke. They've established a day of separated from their class. You know jaylen. Lewis has an example the most recent example. He's he's he's elevated in separate. The draft isn't tomorrow though so there's still a lot of work to do but he's already in front running physician and it gives everyone low confidence that this is the kind of investment and the kind of pet that would make a ton of sense for players like that. Let me follow up on that brandon. Because you're you're entering. What suddenly become a fairly crowded space in terms of leagues like this. You know the g. league ignite is one season in but they've had a measure of success. We've seen jalen green probably a top pick. Jonathan kamenga top five or six. Then you have the ncw with this. Recent ruling allowing top players to make money off their name image and likeness. How does how does the elite separate itself from that group. Why think i is. We start a little bit sooner so the g. league zone a great job with what we call it a year the prep year that year. That a recent graduates would be going to college and they've already been hacking the system you know going to italy or china So so there's a market for those players and we want an alternative to college for for for us though. Our players are seeking an alternative to high school so we are a school but we think about the resources that were bringing to the table first of which being an nba like environment You know start coach. Ali coach lehto in a robust set of staff. I mean scouting staff a high performance staff administrative team. Our goal was to simulate an nba organization for for young athletes at sixteen seventeen eighteen. Th there there is no other environment. Like that. And i think the big way that we separate with high school athletes Is that both domestically and internationally. We're able to put twenty four of them together in a building. So what we're selling is the best competition for these guys starts at home. I mean every day in line coaches don't minister drills administer competition aspects of practice and getting ready for games but when you look to the right and left and i noticed as a player. There's no weak link. I mean everywhere you look. There's somebody that's doing what you're doing and possibly doing more. Because they they are not just dreamed about the into the league or to the high level. They're on their way there That's where we've been able to. I think create a little separation from others that have tried or looked at something. Like this kevin. How do you approach this job. Do you do it in a similar mindset and you had at uconn where you have young players you also you know yukon. You had to keep them academically eligible you to follow that pretty closely. I mean is there is it a similar mindset or do you take a different tact. I think you just let it be you know. Similar is not. It's just whatever comes you say yes to it and you cultivate hope from it I never coached high school players. They was always you know graduated from high school. And now they're freshman's This situation is a little different in in was recruiting for two to three years. This situation is a little different. But you know from me. Chris i love the unknown about it. And that's the space i live in. Not just wanna make sure that. I have the space incorporate something in these players that they can just think about it can build from a have a foundation so when they make the transition they have every tool in the toolbox to say okay. Oh that's a problem Assess it let me be able to correct it. Let me obsessed. Let me be aware of it and i think that's the difference between you know coaching a high school kid in in the college. Kid i mean you get able to mold them a little bit better and then you have to understand where they at. Now you know back then. I didn't have social media. We didn't have social media now. These kids these players are building their brand a little bit earlier and now you just meet them where they are. And i can't wait to get them up on campus get them up until atlanta just continue to build a great relationship. Welcome spend time with the one on one in. This situation is going to provide us to do a lot more skill development that i didn't have a really good opportunity and it had not one say good opportunity. I didn't have the best opportunity. Because there's so many things we own a row recruiting You own a row fundraising these different things. Brandon's taken care of in. Dan porter is taken care of. I can just really coach the player and work on his skill development on and off the basketball court. So it's really given me my own lane. So i can really perform my job. Mama job is really breaking down and relationships it starts. Relationship is start with trust. Stars will hold is spending time with the the young student athletes on and off the basketball court and pushed them to greatness and the competition is not on. our side of competition is with him. You know can you beat your previous best bestself. Can you be better than today you know. Can you be better tomorrow than you were date. And that's what i'm coaching. And that's what i love to do. And i think we're going to have some great young man as open as biden has going to be vulnerable going to try to reach for the sky. In the sky is going to be ob- you is not going to be limits. I can't wait to get up to atlanta. We've been having some many camps. Chris has been wonderful to get back on the court with the guys. And i'm looking forward to the next mini camp and dan looking forward to getting them up to atlanta. So we really can go to work. You know when. I was was talking to brian. shaw a couple of months ago. Kevin about how he was coaching. The ignite you know it was a lot of pro stop. He was trying to bring to that team. Are you taking that same. Approach you trying to coach them like their nba players or something different. No it's nothing different is just. I'm building pro. Habits in every situation is going to be different. Chris this is going to be some guys. Come in you know. Say for instance like a. John montero will we got him and he you know is a little bit more advanced than some other players because he's been a pro- already and then it's going to be another situation where we gotta talented guy might not be able to get quick but these opportunities we can go at our own pace we can sit down and talk to them but we're really teaching and building pro habits and those habits is going to translate over to them being great pros when that opportunity come invest in the nba are the euro league so every day you know we are building like a practice plan like more of a college practice plan nba practice bandwidth doing drills. That i got from my numerous stops in the nba. You know we're doing sets in the nba. Then we gotta understand that sixteen years old as well you know and maybe sometimes you gotta you know kinda doubt it down a little bit. But i'm gonna let com. I'm going to let that go. i'm not going to focus on one of it. I'm not gonna say oh. We're doing this process. Each and every day every day is different. And that's what i love about the unknown. And i'm gonna treat it like that and we just gonna continue to bill because i think we got great mas and organization that really want to coach the whole person. And that's what i'm really excited about. You decided to upgrade your outdoor deck. So you ordered the essentials. Power washer said a patio chairs and a shiny new grill. And you use your bank of america. Customized cash rewards credit card choosing to earn three percent cashback online shopping and up to five point. 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Divers inventors patent and unleash economic opportunity. Find out at invent together dot org learn more and take action today brandon not to continue to compare this team to the ignite but when i talked to sharieff abderrahim about that i mean. I had asked him about the sustainability of that team. Given how much. Money was being poured in to pay some of the players. And he bobbed and weaved floyd mayweather trying to answer that question. Because it's it's hard to commit to it without say a television contract more sponsorships and things like that when you can you speak to kind of the sustainability of this because we've seen startups with an influx of cash. Get get in big the first year. But then peter out. I mean what needs to happen. Four overtime elite to become a long term successful program while has got to answers. I think you know a concept. I mean we're we're selling on the ability to develop young players and have a more more pro ready right. So this is. This is the path we are offering basketball development. Call it professional Business development And we are also like leveraging. What is an incredible media platform that again. The things that we like to call a distinguishing factors. That's a huge one. So not to bob and weave one. We gotta be good ass. You know that. That's how have long deputy spurs the spurs. They were good for really long time. And so we've got the that there were good at this note. No pressure on kale right The the the second piece though is you know and this comes from my my time in the nba. It just wasn't that long ago where it out of chicago. Pre-draft combine interview. If i said. I wanna build my brand. Everybody in the room was like smirking and like you know what. What are we talking about like. It's about basketball basketball basketball And you know if you are young team developing and not winning a lot of games truth is you can't sell just basketball because your basketball isn't great you got to sell personalities and stories in that there's something that people can invest in in fall in love with other than like the final score like otherwise. The sixers had no chance right any any development team yet to buy into a story and for us. I think we have a chance to create stories but we get a chance to show those stories because we have a platform. So it's it doesn't take much. I mean i'm not a social media guru. But when i got recruited for this job haven't been around the block a little bit certainly from an nba perspective. I heard a couple of things. I really got my attention. One was fifty million followers That's eyeballs and we all know that that Business follows the eyeballs in whatever in whatever respect. The other was which is unfair. Because i think that number changes month over month but it started at one point four and not set maybe one point eight or one point nine billion with a b. billion views of content a month that overtime in some ways has found a way to the heart. The mind of young people It is being communicated and solid as you know the generation z. sort media and content engine We are doing an amazing thing here which is developing young talent in a pure way that we want to make sure that they are prepared. Top to bottom to do well on the court to do well and communities to do well in business but then there's this other thing which is they want to be known like. No player wants to play in an empty building. Everybody wants to play where it matters. They wanna play. When nick can rock and like the building and just like recognizing their talent. We're just artists. And one thing that is kind of showcase. By one event that that overtime overtime the media company producing s called. You see it on youtube to. Is that over. Hundred million people watched that. I mean that that's not an insignificant number that players that are going to play overtime. Lee will have the opportunity to be known The the opportunity of bring brick big brands to the table and support this platform If not already indicated by the kinds of investors that that have shown interest but the brands that are coming to the table our sustainability is going to be showing value delivering value to not just the athletes but to overtime visibility. I would imagine great for them but can you monetize it. Can you make it so this league is in the black or does it need to be in the black every year. Well my the good news is as a basketball man. No different than a different than the is Get a budget. My job is to be fishing and and spend wisely. I i'm not. I'm not asked to sell tickets or generate revenue that's for a tremendous And in successful a business operations Our job is to make sure that what we are delivering is high is a high level product That you see the growth and development of our young players. What's there recruited. We gotta make them better. They need to be able to perform and probably the best testament of our success is going to be our nba. Gm voting with this pick right but with a coach saying like they did a nice job. This guy was. Well coached testament to takeo and the rest of the coaching staff. That if we're doing that will prove successful. Because guess what the next crop of recruits when we're in the gym like we're not chasing them. There's sort of meeting us at at minimum half way. We need to keep bringing high level taliban and developing talent to prove successful and i have a tremendous set of partners across academics and across content media. That will will do their part to elevate our business. Can you expecting to tap into some of your. nba relationships. I mean as you mentioned thirteen teams in twelve seasons. You've made a lot of friends over the years. We're going to see like san preston sitting in the crowd for your practices as a whole so sam and so many gyms that i know you know Kevin durant and all these guys are destinies in overtime. Just having them be around. We had our first minicamp. Ray allen showed up and not only showed up. He brought his son to work out with guys. Just it was just amazing. does just see how the branches that we can continue to pull up on and they continue to pull on us and be a partnership in. This thing is going to be great. Are you expecting to have kind of drop ins. Durant's involved with the league. You expecting these guys. Just be around. Which i would imagine would be both a resource for you but also an attractive quality to this league definitely. Definitely we going to build a place where it's going to be hopefully a development premier development destination for everybody and you know hopefully katie can come out and work out with guys and russell westbrook and james harden and all these guys that we know and i know i had opportunity to be evolved. Then it's kinda beat a veteran guys We want them to be around. Because it's not. Just me sean. It's also watching tape like these are the different drills and look how k. d. and look how chris paul is using the pick and rolls and now they're showing up that's a that's a big big bang for us with us growing these young talented student athletes To get them inspired to the next level and they're doing a great job done only gonna do. I coached him. Chris a coach me on a day to day basis. I'm open to that and we just really want to have a love affair with guys and and the end of the day chris. We want appease the basketball guys. We wanna play the right way. We want to share a basketball. We wanna run. We wanna have fun. We want how to join the game but it can't just be me me me. It has to be weak. And i'm wanting to teach guys how to be involved in any system they get drafted about. They can be a part of a productive system and be a productive partner in in the community as well no matter what city they when they arrive to the nba brandon. Before let you go. What schedule gonna look like i mean is this team playing. Just walk me through kind of what these kids are getting into. And what kind of schedule you gonna be able to put together so schedule that that is really interesting for everybody. And i wanna try to illuminate. But i've got to be careful we are still contracting with some teams But for the audience the think about it in buckets. We're gonna play independent prep schools. That's going to be a significant part of our schedule. We are a high school so we are looking to schedule. Some of the top independence that you would typically no to have a national schedule can travel that have the ability to be mobile. We're scheduling home and away with with With those folks and it looks like net set as an example It looks like you know. Folks that are playing for a national title Arizona florida california. So it'll be a widespread travel schedule for us. We're also looking at European competition so think about junior euroleague as an example. Some of the best clubs the Insects as an example Where we can get a collection of sixteen to nineteen year old elite talent to compete against us. And then as i mentioned earlier on the show we really feel like the best competition is gonna come internally and that's where our league play Comes into effect so we are looking at our group of twenty four as three teams of eight. There will be standings you'll be able to track will compete against each other. That'll be a significant part of our schedule as well. We don't want to overstep our guys one of the things. We really wanna correct leading science. Guide us here. is is minimized the wear and tear. Nobody's while still developing and preparing for a professional level place so a schedule of maybe thirty five. To forty games is our target. We started september Training camp will will begin Play by mid august. We'll be done by by Late march is how we see our schedule shaping up i'm looking forward to it brennan kevin. It's a really interesting concept and hope you guys have a lot of success with an. I'll certainly be watching a lot of. Nba people will be watching but brandon. Stay out of a set of massachusetts. Kevin has like some basketball. Ptsd from all those bc. Matchups i'm sure would probably were so tough. I don't remember kevin. It's not real like talk about it. But lita past. We'd be six thousand. That's not very nice. That's hovering kevin brand. Thanks for joining me. I appreciate it all right. Thank you chris. Thanks so much.
Jason Kidd Set to Be Next Mavericks Coach
"The phone. I don't need to sit in person. They're trying to figure out right now. I'm glad you got there. Because i was about to be like a man. He oughta they're like you your reading that from what was said. Yeah i think we started this show talking about george right like the moments matter gave you. Multiple moments was in one thousand nine points over the last three games combined like a promise with field. This is this is too strong performance in the wrong direction. I don't think that there's a comeback from this for him in philly. I just don't especially you committing to joel embiid and rightfully so. The two of them occupy the same square on the floor. It just doesn't work. Yeah who can be more permanent base. That would work with an essentially joel in be point to finger of ben simmons. Yeah after the game. It's hard to get even back in that locker room With people looking at you and they calling we. Can't you know you start to doubt starts to city and strongly when you passing up opportunity to score and you give it to somebody else because for whatever reason and everybody has their own theories as to why. He struggled shooting the ball why he won't. I think it's mentally some people think he's afraid which in the end is the same thing so it's kind of like he doesn't he's skill. That's the bigger issue. he's not. He's not trusting a fundamental skill right now. And that's something they've got to work on with saying you say that but that may not be in just maybe mitt
"jason kidd" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"So, it makes a lot of sense for kid to work with him. I think, well, the Lakers off this kid, I love those fits of Terry Stotts, Alvin Gentry and maybe I mean when all of a sudden done maybe bring back Brian Shaw again, he did win us ships as an assistant, be sure he's doing some interviews right now so I think that's another thing one. But no Terry. Stotts as far as, you know, being the Trailblazers head coach, I think he could be great. Also, Trevor, he was the assistant coach of the Dallas Mavericks when they won a championship with Jason Kidd. So, that's a nice little filler there, as well. Of course, Alvin Gentry, I mean, the Kobe tap on the but so much Lakers connections there. I'm Terry, Stotts would be the best fit just cuz he's a quality head coach as an assistant coach former player as well, but yeah, well missed Jason, Kidd best of luck, great move for all parties and no doubt that mature Lincoln Vogel will find someone great to help us out with Phil handy. I think it now makes a lot of sense why Jason Kidd removed his name for the running for the the Blazers job, right? Because that was a bit of a head-scratcher. The general feeling as well. There's only 30 NBA head-coaching job. So if you really want one and one opens up, you kind of have to jump on it, right? Unless you really know something else is coming down the wrong. I think this is, what kid was waiting for, because it just makes a lot of sense for him to go take over the Mavs again, his former Club. The situation is in, if you ask me, hey, which team would you rather coach? I would definitely rather go coach wage. Now, maybe there's a little bit more pressure to win right now because if you don't look, it could be gone all it. But the Blazers are kind of in a similar situation. And if you go to the maps and the Mavs are, if you're able to get to the second round while you just you just did your job, right? All you gotta do is get to the second round with the maps right now and then take baby steps from there. So I think that that is the possibility. Is there to really put down roots and stay there long-term if you get there and do it right? If you're Jason Kidd, whereas if you go to Portland, if you're not completely successful in the first year of building a contender, Damian Lillard's getting older your window as much money. So it makes a lot of sense to me why kid would decide to wait and then go to the Mavs and now that leaves the Lakers in a spot where they can add somebody else again. Hopefully and offensive mind because I feel like they're pretty good on the defensive side of things..
"jason kidd" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"So I personally think, you know, you gotta respect, either, you gotta let them do, what you want, what he wants and you got the clutch Sports genes going on with Ben Simmons, overall, I don't think it's a great fit. I think you have to build a roster around him and it's the opposite of getting the shooting that the Lakers need. There's just too much sacrifice for Ben Simmons, especially moving a d to the 5 but it would be a very interesting experiment if it is able to happen, I mean the clutch Sports Connection is certainly, interesting, Rich. Paul was reportedly to a meeting with the Seventy Sixers and talking about like, hey are we going to, are we going to do this or we going to trade him? Because what what Rich Paul wants to do is go find a trade for him. To help help be part of the process, and kind of steer him where where they want him. And so he wants to Seventy Sixers to give them permission to go out there and talk to teams and say, hey, let's work something out here. Let me be kind of the, the, the mediator here, we'll get this done. We'll figure out a way to come up with a deal to get Ben Simmons, where he wants to go and get the Sixers. What they want are the Sixers going to give the green light on that? We don't know the Sixers. Obviously have said, that Simmons has not requested a trade or anything, but I think he gets moved, if the price is low enough. I mean crazier, things have happened but I would be surprised if he wound up being a Laker. Let's talk a little bit about Jason Kidd Who is this out to become the head coach of the Dallas Mavericks age? Remote your house key? From ESPN saying, kid is on the verge of signing a deal with the Mavs. The Mavs are bringing in a general manager page from outside. It's an outside hire. I have to go back and look and see who it was that they were bringing in Paris. There it is Nico hairs, so that warmer bolts in here on the NBA off. I think, I think it's interesting, right? That the Mercury it is bringing in these kind of outside hires doing these sorts of things. Vulgaris already came in, it could blow off or it could work out very well for the Lakers side of things. No more. Jason, Kidd means you've got to replace him on the coaching staff. And I know most Lakers fans are looking at this and saying, this is an opportunity, bring in an offensive mind because of how bad the Lakers offense looked at times. How many times it just looked stuck? Just stuck in the mud, not enough movement, not enough going on to generate open. Looks so reliant on LeBron James. I think this is a chance to bring in somebody and I've had a few people. The chat already asking me, who would you go for military stance? If he doesn't get a head, coaching job comes down, Alvin Gentry, that would be another interesting guy to bring in any, but look at Mike D'Antoni..
Dallas Mavericks Expected to Hire Jason Kidd as Head Coach
"McMahon and Adrian won't Janowski say the Mavs are moving toward hiring Jason Kidd as their new head coach. Bobby marks. ESPN NBA Insider Isn't a real fan right now in the Dallas direction that scandal a few years ago, and now you go out and hire coach has had a Suspect past. I mean, we all know well, we're well aware of everything that's gone on in his off the court life and you know, Mark Cuban turns around and goes in this direction, and it's nothing against Jason Kidd as a coach or the player, but Don't know It doesn't stick quite right with me as far as step the direction they're going. Stanley
Tournament upsets working against No. 1 Gonzaga
"We were having a spirited debate about gonzaga show where we were talking about this. You know casual basketball fans will say. Hey gonzaga doesn't win it this year. This is the best chance to win it. But i was saying about this about for a long time. I went back to that team. But they have with nigel williams gos- and cement karnowski the amount of masquerading as a man as you always call him. This has been a consistent theme. Do you think this their best chance to win. It's considering we have by double digit seeds moving on the sweet sixteen in relation to the competition. While i think that's the camera talks about the best team. It's got to be this best team in relation to who you're gonna be playing against so when you look at this gonzaga team in relation to the field. It's probably their best chance. Not we'll have another chance knowing mark few they're going gonna continue to get good players but this team is unique. There historically good offensively. They create matchup problems match problems at the point. The size of suggs. Who quite honestly reminds me. Jason kidd matra points of front timmy. With his footwork and his skill level match up at the four spot with casper stretch defense and put it down and mma forces your for to guard on the floor especially in transition joel. Who absolutely only triple double in the history of gonzaga basketball. And we don't even talk about the dude. So yeah i think in relation to the field i think this is gonzaga's best shot. They're so good offense when he gets up every fourteen seconds which is absolutely ridiculous to flow of their offense really puts a lot of pressure on your defense not only to get back but to get set so i would agree. This is their best shot in this moment in time because of the
Will Doncic's Practice Habits Make Him the Next Jordan?
"What are his practice Habits Like like what? What is he like when we do see him but you do. Is he the same way as he smiling and having fun yet, very professional and also able to kind of have that killer instinct in practice. I thought well, he's a competitor and his practice habits each year continue to get better and better. He's a young guy that likes to compete. So when we're doing stuff offers, you know, five-on-five competition or will have some kind of a a prize for a you know, winning a drill. I mean he reminds me a lot of Jason Kidd that way and if you come up with a dog To try to simulate something, you know kid and and digest or guys that will figure out the best possible way to manipulate the drill to you know, like practicing one day where yeah, you had to make at least five passes for you got shots. So his adjustment to it was to throw it back and forth to the fight to the to the center four times in the back one and then that you know, she can play you know, and so but but this is this is what great players and some of the real, you know, survive fingers that we've seen in the history of this game. You're talking about guys like bird like Magic Johnson Jordan, you know was it was very very similar LeBron James. I'm sure Kobe Bryant was was a lot like just too but as as as time moves along, you know, the the level of growth is really there and in all areas from Skillet. I meant to to leadership on the floor in games and
Vince Carter retires from the NBA after 22 years
"This Carter has officially called it a career he signed a one year deal with the hawks last year was planning on it being is last in the league and now he has confirmed he is retiring from professional professional basketball after twenty two seasons he and Dr J. are the two best dunkers in NBA history yes they were showing the the two thousand dunk contest just a moment ago that's like going to be my standing memory of Vince Carter and I think it is for a lot of people here just one of those players I mean obviously longevity speaks for itself twenty two years in the league is tremendous but he just played when he was with Toronto with this unbelievable energy and excitement that was just so unique he also Jason Kidd did this he developed into a nice three point shooter like he realized okay can jump quite as high I want to stay in this game I love basketball I want to still get paid and he developed a three point shot Dadi yeah he's a testament to longevity actually made three pointer in the final shot of his career which is the one thirty six one thirty one overtime loss to the Knicks on March eleventh right before the shut down so I guess the fitting and would have been a monster dunk but we often a felony size lashed out so that's an amazing career then was very fun to watch and he will be hoping for
"jason kidd" Discussed on Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin
"Back man is so we'll keep you posted as the news comes in will keep it rolling for you go be that legally that literally was rolling in. So lastly, on Jason Kidd. I was joking yesterday with forgot who we had on. But I said, like, so was the first Jason Kidd rumor where he wants to be the head coach? But all getting aside, I do think that with LeBron we know there's a relationship there, it goes back to the Olympic team, there was depends on who you listen to. There was. Commentary back then about how influential Jason Kidd was with LeBron in that particular Olympics in two thousand eight and that, you know, Jason Kidd because of that is kind of forged a bond with LeBron. And if you really look at LeBron over the years, right, like he's always had in Cleveland or in Miami. He's always had a former player on the staff that he's close to talk to you with the heat. It was John Howard with the Cavs. There were multiple guys aiming Jones or James Posey, or whatever. So having that former play Lionel's former player, but right. Brian doesn't think of him as a former Brive LeBron line coach. Right. Jason played in the same era as LeBron. I think that, that helps kind of potentially bridge, the gap and. If Jason Kidd is truly willing to be these coach, then I think that could be beneficial for everyone the word if. Key? That's, that's the key. And I'll be I want to tell you that. I have not been on Jason. Kidd bandwagon for a long time, and I never will be on the bandwagon Brett, what I will say is this, that you hope through all the years that have passed it. He's grown as well. That he's matured. He understands some of the things that he's done in his past that he can just say, all right. You know what I gotta I gotta do better, Brian, and the one thing, the one reason I really like. Frank, bringing Lionel onboard because Lionel will be totally loyal to Franken. You know what I mean? And so is going to be hard for j kit. If he tries to be a distraction in that locker room in whatever since that may be is going to be very hard with those guys. So I'm really truly hoping that, that he does have that bond with LeBron and he can be an asset to this coach staff and asset to LeBron James Anthony Davis. Somebody young guys that they're gonna have in there because he could really help Alex from that point guard position. You know, so I think he can be very valuable assistant coach and hopefully he's not looking at in. Okay. In two or three years. This is going to be my team. You know, hopefully, that's not how he's thinking, hopefully he's just thinking about being the best assistant that he can possibly be at this particular time. We've got more potential not news. But just more elaboration on this potential Lakers deal with Atlanta and the pelicans everyone. We'll get to some of that on the other side. Plus the draft is gonna start by the time we are ready to roll commercial bear. So we will coming up at rock and brews in Redondo, quarter of PCH in Palos Verdes boulevard. Byron Scott, Georgia data with you here back at four minutes here on. ESPN. LA..
"jason kidd" Discussed on Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ
"You that it's just one of those situation when you look at the Los Angeles Lakers to be having you situation where you've got to recruit free agents knowing that this level of this function has raked nudist franchise, Frank, Vogel sitting up the nicest guy in the world, actually a really good coach in a really good person. But don't tell me that, you know what you're not worried about looking over your shoulder. Whatever when every single candidate that was that was talked to before you. And the two candidates that. Were offered the job before you both turned it down. Because it was insisted upon them that they have Jason Kidd on their roster on its coaching staff, rather, they wanted Jason Kidd in the mix. Jason Kidd is gonna be the head coach for the Los Angeles Lakers within the next two years. The left he keeps his hands clean. That's that that's the prevailing thought process and thinking to everyone. So for you to sit up and say with a straight face that you're not concerned looking over your shoulder. They can only be one reason that you're not concerned, and that is because you completely satisfied. We'll get your five million a year as a head coach because nobody was standing at the door ready to offer you a job for their franchise fee about that. That could be the only reason she's receiving. They last question before we let you go. And max as magic this a couple of different ways in magic really didn't get to the crux of the issue. Is it just a coincidence? That Koby was rob point. Kaz client, and rob plaguing? Kobe have a relationship or is there some? Level Koby involved with some of the decision making that's taking place with the Laker organization right now. I, I can give you that v most. Correct. Answer is out there. Magic doesn't know and magic doesn't want to believe the possibility that Koby Bryant can be behind the scenes. You know, you know, manipulating things magic I wanna believe that magic loves Koby a right genie loves Koby..
"jason kidd" Discussed on Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ
"To make sure Magic Johnson dot credit for it because they got so much love match Johnson. And by the way him and LeBron, we'll be meeting shortly within within the next couple of weeks. So magic told me he's going to reach out to LeBron personally to have that conversation because they still haven't talked, but I will tell you that it's just one of those situations when you look at the Los Angeles Lakers to be having you situation where you've got to recruit three agents knowing that this level of dysfunction, has raked, nudist franchise, Frank, Vogel sitting up the nicest guy in the world, actually a really good coach in a really good person. But don't tell me that, you know what you're not worried about looking over your shoulder. Whatever when every single candidate that was. That was talked to before you and the two candidates that were offered the job before you both turned it down because it was insisted upon them that they have Jason Kidd on their roster. Okay. There's a ton in there one. He says that the situations devastating the he said as magic with speaking as magic was doing his look was. Do you know what you're doing right now? Free agency is right around the corner. Do you know what you're doing? You are blowing this place up. He also used the phrase, this level of dysfunction in maybe somebody can see through it. And now they've got a chain of command, but magic right before arguably the most important stretch in Laker offseason, in a really long time that he let the building on fire is going to stick to magic from it and not just because the Lakers had the last word, but because of what he did. Yeah, it certainly stinks. I mean, certainly distinct organization, it just depends on to me. What the agent of the player feels is looking to come to. The Lakers and what the player feels the do, do they feel like the Lakers are heading in the right direction that they got the right coach. Lebron James is a right. Teammate to play with in, if that's the case, then you don't even have to worry about anything else because the lake brand is going to be the lake brand, it all great brands in sports. Take a dip become back though. They just do. Yes, they do. Yes, I mean, think about it, whether it's the Celtics I was a great brand by the time. I don't disagree, hip and came back. I mean they they all do it. If question is, is, how long is the dip though because to us I think that the Laker equivalent in major league. Baseball is the Yankees right Yankees dodgers the Yankees. The Lakers have all the championships. The Yankees have all the championships and the Yankees had, I mean, they had ten twelve year run where they couldn't do anything. I mean, I don't remember the Yankees in eighty the in the eighties were terrible yet. I'm madly that's it. But he never the what was the robot, Don. Mattingly never got postseason never got to the postseason. And then the, the Yankees of the. Fifty sixty seventy when the Yankees of the nineties up until now the Yankees are in the mail, every single year is there in the mix. The Lakers are in the midst of this run and magic doing what he did isn't going to help because the brand will recover. I agree. It's the Lakers..
Lakers Rumors: Jason Kidd Hired as LA Assistant to Lure Giannis in Free Agency
"Right. So the Lakers have said that they want Jason Kidd on their coaching staff to serve as a veteran assistant for Frank Vogel man to mentor Lonzo. But they may have another more ambitious reason as well. According to Steve Popper, Newsday a person familiar with the Lakers process said that kid was brought to Los Angeles to attract Janas, enter the Coon boats, who the Lakers when he becomes a free agent in two years, and the buck star could become an unrestricted free agents Janas played for kid Imma walkie for three and a half seasons beginning in his second season in the league, that's a little pipedream isn't it? Just hire good. Coach. He's about one with this, this idea if they add IMAX level player this year, and Anthony Davis via trade. That would take them out of the honest contention in two thousand twenty one they also have LeBron still. And he has a forty one million dollar player option for twenty one twenty two. So it's possible that LeBron chooses to opt out. And lead the Lakers at that time. And then they had us as there in his prime replacement, but the my issues, this is already come out this year and said he's not leaving the bucks. No, he's not. I, I don't. I don't feel. I do not feel with Yaish. Listen, there's no reason to leave the world's changed, you can make money anywhere. He's got a gray better coach in Milwaukee than potentially he'd have anywhere else. And for the record like Damian Lillard, if you trust the GM, if you like the city if you trust the coach and you're winning or support.
"jason kidd" Discussed on The Right Time with Bomani Jones
"So you have genie who's running out of people who are close to her and also looping in Kurt bringing him back into the fold starting just surrounding herself with people that she feels like she can trust. Yup. But do they know anything about basketball? No. And the thing is about it too. Is like is it fair? To question. I mean, Jeannie has been very good with PR. Yes. And very good about, you know, the Laker image in the Laker brand and restoring things to greatness. But you know, she's pretty much skated as far as like her ability to lead the franchise up in in a successful way. And now those questions are coming and they're fair and she's responsible for the worst decision. The Lakers made in the last ten years, the Kobe extension and truth. The Kobe extension held up the party like that. That was a problem when they did that when they offer that extension that was bad business. They went ahead. And they did that now you've got LeBron James you couldn't convince lamarcus Aldridge to come play for you. Now, you gotta LeBron James. You don't appreciate it. What what what is what is this? Then this crazy thing would Jason Kidd where he put Jason Kidd on the staff demanding that he be an assistant gave I don't know much. You know about Jason Kidd track record. But if I'm Frank Vogel everytime, Jason Kidd, walk in a room. A man. Live your shirt. Oh, live your shirt. Let me see. Okay. Okay. Nowhere nowhere. You good. Every time you come into rule or you stop playing loud music. And then y'all start talking. By he he's not at all, trustworthy, under these circumstances..
Frank Vogel, Lakers And Jason Kidd discussed on First and Last with Lundberg and Golic, Jr.
"Radio Lakers move this weekend settling on Frank Vogel is their new head coach arosh Markazi from the LA times. People over Luke Walton. You'll get the coach at some point. But he was the first year coach when they hired his assistant anything, we're all that great. I think from the coaching as much of that coaching. Search has been improved coaching front. Forty-five-year-old Frank Vogel worked for the organization before as an advance scout back in two thousand six season didn't coach last season following two years with the magic prior to that he was with the Pacers his plan franker might have been better. How do you not run into the Miami Heat? And LeBron James now Vogel James are on the same side. Well, first off Frank Vogel is a respected coach in is Lee in on. No that is probably not the big names flash higher. That franchise light the Los Angeles Lakers fans are used to. But he's a really good coach and Jason Kidd being on his staff does make the squad better. But the optics of this look unusual based on how it was done. It almost looks like, okay. Manage me, we want to hire Frank Vogel. But we want to bring Jason Kidd in keep the Brian
Frank Vogel Set to Be Lakers Head Coach; Kidd Tapped as Assistant
"Frank Vogel hired as the head coach of the Lakers. They went with auction see, and that's pretty hard to pal it. If you're a Lakers fan going with action, see as I said earlier, the two coaching searches in Los Angeles UCLA in the Los Angeles, Lakers planning on co authoring a book on how to conduct a coaching search because both went very very smoothly. But the story coming out of this and even after the Magic Johnson resignation and all that and now with going with option C where you got money. Wave's turning your down for the sons Tyler say, no, I don't want the three year deal and the Jason Kidd becoming an assistant because Vogel acquiescence said. Yep. A I'm fine with that. I'll take the three year deal. Now, the conversation turns to what happens with LeBron James and should LeBron James just get out of there. Stephen a Smith of the Stephen a Smith show referenced whether or not they should trade. Lebron you've got folks close to Jeanie Buss imploring her to trade LeBron James he does not have a no trade clause. And now you haven't given them to coach that he wanted. Lebron James's quality been about the business of trying to get a wide Lennon to come to the Los Angeles Lakers his stead at a loss Angeles Clippers so making a move like this by not bringing in a coach that he wants not securing that the coach said he wants in Los Angeles is his guy you never know what Domino's a going to fall right now. That was Stephen a Smith appearing on. Sportscenter discussing the possibility of LeBron James being traded, which to me is look there are people who know heck of a lot more and are more. Well connected than I am in this thing. I think it is one of these silliest topics that that we've talked about here at ESPN in quite some time. Is it a possibility? To me. It is so hard to fathom the Los Angeles Lakers deciding to trade him or even LeBron admitting failure going this was the wrong move. And and having to swallow his pride and ego. I need to get out of here. Both of those things. I don't envision any of that happening. Myron do I don't envision it happening. But it's not crazy. It's crazy because we're in America in our sports stars. Don't get traded to that degree. They thought they signed that the teams they used their power and free agency. But you don't trade your star quarterbacks. Your star NBA players your star baseball players. Whereas in soccer, you know, your name are you pod leisure? And all those all those guys have switched teams, you know in the last decade or so, and it's not outrageous for happening to support like that. I think the problem is if you're LeBron it's how do you want to in your
"jason kidd" Discussed on Sports 600 ESPN
"Leading the Pacers including trips to the Eastern Conference finals twenty thirteen at twenty fourteen. So there's two sides of this coin with the Pacers two hundred and fifty wins with magic fifty four wins. He agrees with three year deal, and Jason Kidd joins staff is lead as Sistan. Let's not very that lead. How g kid that angle? Dave mcmenamin Bryant win horse eyebrows raised provide this insights, of course, then he's going to come in and assess the situation when it time is right. Let with the entire. Coaching staff looks like and go from there. The problem is with LeBron as we all know, sometimes the perception becomes stronger than the reality of thing, and with the reputation LeBron have already and the reputation that Jason Kidd has already what happens if the cameras catch LeBron having a conversation with his coach Jason Kidd during a heated one of the game that's a normal occurrence, but guess what those type of things begin at a little bit of kindling that can turn into a raging wildfire. When people consider the coaching stability of Frank Volvo. Even though he technically the head coach in that situation in a vacuum. It's it's it's looks like a terrible coaching staff. You are building you are building in a scenario where the players can go to the assistant coach who has to have a lot more clout to head coach. It's never the way you'd wanna you'd wanna build a staff. Aphid remains a mystery to me why the Lakers shield that this way is best, you know? But I I also think you know, trying has proven he's coach in the NBA. I think they're they're putting waits around his ankles right now at the way, they decide to do this young Masuku's covered J kid back to his nets years. Feels that would have been the better way to go in my mind. I think that Jason Kidd might have been the better number one head coach. But I think maybe, you know, the Lakers they there's a lot of Baggies, Jason Kidd. Obviously, I think everybody knows that. And so I think what they wanted all along with or Jason Kidd after they interviewed him ago. I think that he needed an oppression on them, especially when it came to that element of Lonzo Brandon Ingram and cow Kouzmin. And so I think they liked what they heard from him. But as a number one system, also, I think they like the fact that LeBron James respects. Jason kids factored or playing days and their their data teenage on team USA. So Jason Kidd checks the box off in those and bills regards which are big boxes for the Lakers. Young gone game night. Stephen Smith was on sports center. Steve Levy on how this alternate lead plays out. He's not expected to be the coach long-term, but a loss Angeles Lakers to what would ask the question. Why not just hire Jason Kidd as head coach? Well, it's very very simple. He has a relatively uncomfortable past one involved. A message violence, obviously, ended up in the divorce driving while intoxicated charge that he had to deal with his wealth. Not to mention the fact that whether it was in Brooklyn, Milwaukee he gave the impression that he wanted more to just head coaching responsibilities. He wanted to run the show they knew they couldn't sell him to the public in Los Angeles. They went the route of Frank Vogel. Why because he accepted three years at five million per year. Not to mention the fact if there's even a modicum of success that he does not have Jason Kidd is in line to be the next head coach. Whoa. Joel. Also reporting LeBron's former team the Cavs interviewed for head coaching candidates in Denver GM, Koby Altman and the front office met with Denver assistants Georgy Fernandez in western cell juniors. Wells, Portland assistant, David vanterpool. The Cavs also interviewed magic assistant Steed head soult. Pair game sevens today from the NBA ESPN radio has the blazes nuggets from Denver coverage at three eastern you could see it on ABC at three thirty eastern again. And it'd be a postseason history. The road team not a lot of success. Just twenty one percent of the time. They've won a game. Seven in Denver has home court. They also have Nicole a Yokich for triple doubles this postseason trailing. Magic Johnson for the most in a players first postseason only by one the only other seven footer with more postseason triple doubles in Yokich is hall of Famer Wilt Chamberlain. He had this on today's deciding tip kind lost in the first series at home, maybe lost in the secondary. So it'd be limit travel. Their home. So I mean, it means a lot. Of course. I mean, if you're gonna pick gonna play the game seven out of home, but I think the most opponent is to who brings during the floor who brings the physicality. No, I just feel something different. The first game of the playoffs does because it's a something different does because we call it the players, but besides that everything else that same is coach Mike Malone on this win or go.
"jason kidd" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"He led him the Eastern Conference finals and twenty thirteen twenty fourteen the big road block there. Lebron James who now is his lead player wold reports. It's a three year deal and Jason Kidd joins us staff as lead as Sistan. How about that? Jay kid angle. Dave mcmenamin ride win wars eyebrows raised provide this insight festival, of course, he's going to come in the situation when it time is right at the entire coaching staff. Looks like. And go from there. The problem is with LeBron as we all know, sometimes the perception becomes stronger than the reality of thing. And with the reputation that LeBron has already and the reputation that Jason Kidd has already what happens if the cameras catch LeBron having a conversation with coach Jason Kidd during a heated moment of the game. That's a normal occurrence, but guess what those type of things that begin at a little bit of kindling that can turn into a raging wildfire. When people consider the coaching ability of Frank Vogel, even though he technically the head coach in the situation in a vacuum. It it's it's looks like a terrible coaching staff. You are building you are building in a scenario where the players can go to the assistant coach who has going to have a lot more clout than head coach. It's never the way you'd wanna you'd wanna build a staff that remains. Mystery to me why the Lakers field this way best, you know? But I I also think you know, Frank Boba has proven he's a good coach in the NBA. I think they're they're putting waits around his ankles right now with the way they decide to do this own young Masuku's covered. Jake kid back to his nets years feels and that would have been a good way to go going kids route as the head coach he joined game night in my mind. I think that Jason Kidd might have been better number one head coach. But I think maybe, you know, the Lakers ethic, they there's a lot of baggage that comes with Jason Kidd. Obviously, I think everybody knows that. And so I think what they wanted all along with Jason Kidd after they interviewed him ago. I think that he made an impression on them, especially when it came to element of Lonzo Brandon Ingram Macau Kouzmin. And so I think they liked what they heard from him. But as a number one fisted also. Think they like the fact that LeBron James respect Jason Kidd back to their playing days. And they're their days teenage team USA, so Jason Kidd checks the box off in those in those regards which are big boxes for the Lakers. Let's look forward to because that roster that roster needs to be tweaked as well. Whoa. Draws reporting. The Cavs interviewed for head coaching candidates in Denver. Kobe open their GM and the front office met with Denver since George Fernandez and western cell juniors. Well, as Portland assistant, David vanterpool as the Cavs also interviewed magic assistant Steve head sold. A pair of game sevens today from the NBA. Yes. PM radio has the blazers nuggets from Denver coverage at three eastern. You could see it on ABC at three thirty eastern an MBA postseason history. Again, the road team in game seven of only one twenty one percent of the time to call a Yokich has four triple doubles as postseason trailing. Only. Magic Johnson who had five for the most in a player's first post-season, the only seven footer with more postseason triple doubles and Yokich is hall of Famer Wilt Chamberlain. He and Jamal Murray on this deciding tip loss to in the first series at home, maybe lost in the second. So it'd be. Linda travel of their home. So I mean, it means a lot. Of course. I mean, if you're gonna thinking big gonna play the game seven at home, but I think the most important is who brings in the floor who brings the no I just feel something different the first game of the playoffs because it was something different does because we call it the players, but besides that everything is same crazy Nyerere by keeps talking experience and Swede say, no we've been here before. No. So we're gonna go back home group Santo comeback with energy use a Fancher Vange and. Play. I think we to me laps tonight. Dame? Very comfortable. He's comfortable, and then tough tough on us the game. So we're nickel back and regroup in Wayne or go home. That's the case as well. Later tonight on TNT Sixers raptors from Toronto winner gets Milwaukee Eastern Conference finals Joel Embiid who's been up and down in this series. This..
"jason kidd" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"Their newest head coach one Frank Vogel. Formerly of the Indiana Pacers in Orlando Magic on what is being reported. According to wo- JR. As a three year deal that seemed to be the sticking point with Tyron Lou because NBA insiders all over the place or saying Lou and the Lakers got close to an agreement for him to take over and become LeBron James coach again. But apparently they were a couple sticking points one of which was linked to contract. Lou thought that he deserved a five year deal because other guys like the since deposed the Laker coach Mr. Wotton went right up to highway to Sacramento and got eight five year deal from the Sacramento Kings. And he doesn't have a NBA championship on his resume the same way Tyron lose does. So loose said, no why the going rate for an MBA code. She's a five year deal. How do you expect me to take only three? The Lakers were offering three if you didn't want the job you have to take the John guess what you didn't get the job. The other rumor was that the Lakers were strong in their desire tavist say on the coaching staff. The they wanted to have a big hand in on helping Jason Kidd fill out a case, you get Tyron Lou fill out his coaching staff, including one Jason Kidd. Which I tell you why I don't have a problem with Tyron loose saying, listen, it's kind of my coaching staff. You're going to hire me you need to let me pick guys that I know I can work with I had more groggy ties more ground to stand on join a line in the sand on the coaching staff than he did on the link to contract now, we'll see maybe Tyron Lou gates, another coaching gig within the next twelve months. Fourteen months, whatever before the twenty twenty one season starts, but they are offering your job take over the Lakers. And you've got a guy name LeBron James already on the roster. It's not a bad gig. So you sign a three year deal, and you go out and you make the playoffs and you make a bride maybe the NBA finals run or something like that. And then you go into office and go. Yeah. Can we talk about an extension? It should have been five to begin with you guys wanted to see our at work here. I think we worked pretty well. Can we tack on those two years we talked about probably could have been able to do that. But if you give in and you let them create your coaching staff, and you do well. Well, then you're not going to walk in and go, and yeah now, by the way, I want you to fire this guy that guy the other guy, and I want to put together my own coaching staff. Let's possible of happening. So I think it was mishandled negotiation by Tyron Lou one not that big a fan of to be true to. Gets the players respect. Lebron James back. He works. Well, bryan. But I don't think he's any great strategy guy. They went to NBA final year after year after year because of LeBron James much more so than Tyron Lou. I am a Frank Raghavan. I haven't Frank Vogel is a damn good coach. Now is he the right coach for this team and this mix and these guys specifically the Brian James, I idea I don't know if this is a good fit for Frank Vogel and his coaching style. I liked him. I think he's a good coach. But I don't necessarily think this is a good fit a good higher. I don't think tyrod Lou would have been a good higher. But that's just me. And it sounds like I don't like anybody where you wanna know somebody. I really don't like, Jason Kidd. People are talking about Jason Kidd, and what he did for Milwaukee. Skews me. He laughed. They got better. He deferred the removed. He became the better. They got. And now they're sitting in a conference final maybe going into an NBA final. Why games? No longer the coach boot and holds our is. And the way the Lakers and intimates no sense. To me. They tried to slam dunk, Jason Kidd down Tyron lose throat. And he said, no, I'll pass I want to be able to pick my own coaches. And the I deserve more than three years. I need five which was more the driving. I don't only Tiber on Luke does that. And I haven't seen anybody speculate on it or say one was more so than the other other than the wasn't pleased with either the one the shorter term deal. And the fact that the Lakers wanted to have heavy influence and say on the staff, apparently Frank Hogle cool with three years and Kuwait Cason kids part of his staff. Here's what I don't get. If it did leak out. And I saw before I saw it with anybody else that did Lakers really like Jason Kidd and wanted him to be part of the quote, unquote, Laker staff. Why don't you just make them the head coach if you like the guy mega your head coach? I know why I wouldn't make them head coach because I think he's two shots and hadn't done exceptionally. Well in either one of them as far as I'm concerned, Jason Kidd, best assistant coach in the world. How do we know that? Man. The the Lakers are dysfunctional franchise. That's that's sad. That one of the four running organizations in the history of the NBA one of the most historic franchises. These days is damn close to a rudderless ship and Frank boggles going to catch a real nice fat check, and he's gonna add LeBron James to try and take him. Whatever ID was and remember the Lakers were a playoff team two. Lebron got hurt this year. Now, LeBron came back. The Lakers continued to stink Brown's got to take at least a partial hit for that. But they went in a tank for the season after LeBron got hurt. So we'll see how the Frank Vogel led Lakers assisted by one Jason Kidd do next year. Not the best composition at a coaching staff..
Lakers reportedly to interview former Grizzlies coach J.B. Bickerstaff as coaching search continues
"B Bickerstaff is going to interview for the Lakers. Head coaching position at Bernie, son. It is son. Yes, he spent two seasons as the grizzlies head coach and went forty eight and ninety seven he was also the interim head coach in Houston after Kevin McHale was fired right before the rockets hired Mike, Dan, Tony. He's scheduled to meet with Jeanie Buss. Rob Pelinka Joey bus, Jesse bus, Tim, Harris. And of course, Linda and Kurt Rambis. And yes, his father is Bernie Bickerstaff interim coach five games before. Mike Brown after Mike Brown was fired. But he looks like his dad, of course, you would he's well worked. These are the Lakers coaching candidates, and this is their last two seasons as head coaches JV Bickerstaff was fifteen and forty eight and thirty three and forty nine before he was fired Frank Vogel was twenty nine and fifty three and twenty five and fifty seven for he was fired Jason Kidd, forty two in forty twenty three twenty two five. Admits season final Holland's ten and twenty seven in his last season was fired mid season. And Mike Woodson was thirty seven and forty five before he was fired. That is you'll want to coaching pool. I I don't know enough about J V Bickerstaff to have an opinion. But he's interesting. I always liked his dad. Interesting list. My feeling is that they have completely blue completely blown this coaching. Search not been good. They they should have got money Williams. If that was the guy that they wanted they should've paid whatever and giving him whatever it is. He wanted to get him. Because what I feel like is. If you have someone in mind, that's your number one guy the moment that it goes out to the public. That is your number one guy. He is now your guy otherwise you look like a second option, and you're the Lakers. You can't be the second option. And then when you go to your number two guy, and he turns you down your now on your third option. And everyone knows this is your third option. Well, that's why you know, it's amazing to me. How stuff gets out like?
"jason kidd" Discussed on Mason & Ireland
"We get a poker invitational. So so John we are. Waiting news on the next head coach of the Los Angeles. Leo, it's Tyler don't you think it is. I I've been saying that for well. First of all go back to quite be shocking at this point if it wasn't well since they haven't talked to anybody else. Well, no, they talked kid. They talked to John Howard. But it'd be surprised if one of those guys got a second, and Jason Kidd, never got a second interview. So you would assume that it would be one of the three guys with a second interview. And again, I tweeted out earlier a picture from Tyler's birthday party Friday night with a gigantic Los Angeles, Lakers logo on the cake. That that was basically an announcement. That was the announcement. We're just we're just waiting for the contract to actually be signed for all intents and purposes, and and I think he's the absolute perfect guy for the job people on my Twitter timeline disagree. But he's in my mind the perfect the people who disagree. I would ask them to suggest to you. Who would be better that's available and they could get well, there's this idea of do you want? Lebron running your franchise. And there are people that believe LeBron doesn't necessarily know what coach will put him in the best position to win. And I would argue that when you signed up with LeBron James when Magic Johnson sat at LeBron's house on June the thirtieth of last year that they. The Lakers signed up for the LeBron James e ticket experience in one of those things is that you've got to give LeBron the coach that will allow him to excel the best. Now's not the time to experiment. It's not only that. I would I I agree with you. And. Play it out the other way. Go get go bring in a coach that you didn't consult LeBron about and that he doesn't know or doesn't want. Right. How's that going for ya? NBA is a players Leah more. So than any of the other sports we cover the NFL is a team sport. You get twenty two guys on the field at once baseball. You can you very rarely can you turn a team over the one player in baseball. Because even if the player is a starting pitcher pitches once every five games, right? And even if he's a center fielder in outfitter like Mike trout, he only comes up once every nine times. I mean, the basketball is one sport where one guy can swing your.
Monty Williams the Suns' Top Target for Coach - Where does that leave the Lakers?
"Williams manned up going to Phoenix. Which would which would now put the Lakers coaching search back at three if kids in the mix, it would be either Tyronn Lue whose scheduled interview again tomorrow Juwan Howard who scheduled interview later in the week or kid if Monte goes to Phoenix or as Greg suggested he could also get the job in Philadelphia if they fire Brett Brown, but it appears Brett Brown is on the verge of getting them to the. Second round, by the way to let's not bury the lead on something. This interview was conducted by rob Pelinka and Kurt Rambus, which would lead you. I've been telling people is that who's do. I I understand that. But I'm saying it leads you to believe that part of this. Vacuum isn't just being taken up the power. Vacuum isn't just being sucked up by rob Pelinka. Kurt Rambis is putting himself in a position to gain more power. Well, I think it's already there. However, you want to phrase it it's been reported. And I, you know, a full disclosure here. Kurt's a neighbor of mine, I know him I like them. Occurred Kurt started traveling with us in the middle of the season. Just to be basically an observer. Well, I mean he was brought on as I forget the exact title by magic. I think it was last year like a basketball L salt because something like that like it or not the Lakers are a family business. The Lakers in US have this comment. Yes, they do. They they USC hires Trojans because they think Trojans will get we'll get there say something as an alum. I don't like it. Yeah. And what the Lakers are cutting a page out of that. I mean, if you want to really find the connective tissue. Dr bus was a Trojan there you go. But I think so I think you're going to hear Kurtz name a lot. I think Kurtz going to be around giving Jeannie trust him. And he's going to be giving nothing personal against Kurt. This is not how I do it. I think they are making a real mistake that insulate I just mean the tendency towards installation right there making a real mistake. But okay, so Kurt Rambis, and rob Pelinka interviewed Jason Kidd yesterday doesn't this prove that I'm right in Mason's wrong. That there is no shadow console. No, she does this. Honestly does this team? So far seem organized enough to pull off the shadow GM thing with women talking about that that would be an incredibly hard thing in this day and age to even orchestrate no I mean, I would love to feel confident enough in the Lakers that they could actually pull off the shadow GM very hard to do. Yeah. I don't feel. They can do it hard to do.
Luke Walton, Jason Kidd And Jeanie Buss discussed on NBA: Lakers at Jazz
"I don't think it's a done deal. That Luke Walton is not the coach next year most likely scenario. Sure, they're looking for somebody when this season ends. But being this. An organization like the Lakers that doesn't do anything by the book seemingly and sometimes are hypocrites and do self self involved wounds to themselves. It would not shock me. If at the end of all this and this season is evaluated. Jeanie Buss tells the front office at Nope. My coaches, Luke Walton you guys figure out the rest and by all accounts, Luke, Walton has been doing a great job. He did get that vote of confidence by the franchise back in October. He's had to deal with all this in year, one of LeBron coming into the fold, but how's he handled all the rumors surrounding Jason Kidd and other potential coaching replacements. I mean, he's felt the heat literally since Magic Johnson and rob Pelinka
"jason kidd" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"And now he was holding the arm right there. And then when you see the cornerback has his arm on the receivers. All right. Well, pass interference. You're going to have fifty calls a game. But if I let sound I'm looking at that part of the play what if I see holding because I think we all know that there's holding it feels like on every play. Offensive holding on every play. So now all of a sudden go look at the tackle. You know, he's holding him. You know, it's just a it's a slippery slope to go down. But I think the saints are just waiting for something that sort of says, hey, we're sorry. We screwed you out of going to the Super Bowl. I mentioned this at the end of last hour, and it's Jason Kidd on possibly coaching. The Lakers, Jason Kidd, who's a hall of Famer and coached the Milwaukee Bucks. He had this to say on that opportunity. If it does arise and what he thinks of the Lakers when you look at the Lakers as a whole it's as a franchise that is one of the best in the world, not just, you know, an MBA but the world, and so if you've ever had the opportunity to where perp one goal you can't turn that down as a coach as a player because they're all about championships. And so they have a process they had a young team. And then LeBron comes and kind of sped up things. And so. No he wants to win now. But I think again it takes time. And I thought again loop was doing a great job at at coaching those young guys and LeBron for the first year. It's Jason Kidd on the mothership. There been reports, you know, this isn't any surprise Jason Kidd's name is on the short list here is LeBron gonna listen to Jason Kidd. Tyron Lou she gonna listen to him Brian Shaw, you're gonna listen to him. Is there somebody else that would come in? And are you just figure head there? I don't know Jason Kidd is on the shortlist. I'm just going by what has been reported. And by the way, they still have a coach who's still employed here, which is kind of awkward when they're talking about this the other part of this is Jason Kidd. I guess is a candidate and his al-matar cow. They fired their head coach. But I asked the danettes have you ever seen a rule where you have to have a college degree to coach an NC double A team? And I don't know if it's required by the NCWA, but we found out they don't and then I thought well, Jason Kidd. I don't believe graduated from count. He was an early entrant. You know, he went early, but we went through all the openings currently right now, and they all ask for at least a bachelor's degree. So I don't know if Jason Kidd can coach cow. I don't know if he has to have a degree. I don't know if it's a school by school basis here, but the NC double A doesn't require you to have that. But I'm I'm assuming all these coaches everybody has a bachelor's degree. Didn't you have a situation with an assistant coach at Kentucky who was at self Florida, maybe and found out he didn't have a degree. He had to go back to school to get his degree. And then I think he ended up coaching at Manhattan if that sounds right now trying to hit the way back machine here flashbacks. Yeah. Polling can they fire up a honorary degree on a Tuesday for Jason Kidd and higher on a Wednesday. Does he get professional credit for being a hall of Famer? I don't know how that works. Yes. Sure. There could be a small honorarium made from the student fund. That guy who was helping all those kids get into schools can help Jason Kidd get a degree here before he goes to prison. But I I don't know if Jason Kidd can coach cow if done have a college degree. A final exam to make them shoot like ten threes. If he makes half. Oh, not a deep shooter. But he's probably learned to be a better three point shooter. Yes, mclovin. Yeah. Late Jason Kidd could hit those early early. No, no, not at all. Already a poll question. Mclovin update the poll results?.
"jason kidd" Discussed on The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
"And respected by him than it is to be an Xs and os genius. And to let them run a muck. I mean, I just really thought that what Milwaukee has done. This season was a stain that Jason Kidd would not be able to recover from. I mean, I don't think he'd be up for a regular job. It's it's kind of weird. And like you're still not gonna ask me like I did this for a living. And we're we're not gonna ask me on a coaching question. I just against don't ask me. Call Chris where where is Chris? That's interesting. I mean, so you're saying that you're you don't need a coach when it's LeBron James, you need somebody who just sort of, you know, just be an empty rudder. No, not an empty rudder. I think there's a level of respect. It's not just being a doormat. That's what Tyler was Tyler who had LeBron's respect. And it started David Griffin. Former Cavs Jammie says the tie Lou would tell the Brown the things that he needed to hear not necessarily the things that he wanted to you. And that's that's a good trait to have. Could Jason Kidd be someone who was reemerging as a candidate. If not for this unique scenario anywhere else in the league. It would probably take a couple of years probably take a lot more. I mean think about Mark Jackson who unlike decent kicking actually point to a fifty win season a top three defense. You know, he had all those things and he's still out. So normally probably basically you'll be out for a while. All right. We'll welcome STAN Van Gundy back in here and allow him all my coaching expertise just wasted the entire final sec segment. I mean, the the lack of respect on this shows ridiculous. All right. Well, here you go. Then here is all the space in the world. Then it is. You're right. I should be asking you this question above anyone else. Because you're the experience coach Jason Kidd to the Lakers. Give me all of your thoughts on Jason Kidd to Lakers because you're coaching expert in two seconds. We have left. Thanks, dan..
"jason kidd" Discussed on Get Up!
"Tweeting over the weekend, something that Jalen Yuban hinting at for quite some time here, and that is that if Luke Walton is fired Jason Kidd would likely be a candidate. And I'm not even exactly sure why the Lakers have it made a move with Luke Walton yet to try and get in front of all of this. I don't know that they're doing him any favors by leaving him where he is. And I suppose they could stun everyone and have him back as coach next year. But I don't think anyone expects that to be the case. So here's the way, I want to phrase this question, we all understand that the Lakers are going into an off season where they are desperate to land a big name free agent. And we've seen teams make all kinds of moves designed to make themselves more attractive. So is there a coach is it Jason Kidd, and if not Jason Kidd, who is it that you think would be most likely to bring one of these guys in a Leonard a Kevin Durant. Whoever it is. They might try to coach does make a situation more attractive, but this is professional basketball. Ultimately, your bottom dollar is going to be the thing that takes it over the top. Up along with the opportunity to play with LeBron James. Are you going to be on a contending team? How many years before LeBron starts to slow down? Are the team is the team going to then turn it self over to me? And allow me to be the franchise player. I've talked to Jason Kidd about the books job not necessarily about the Lakers job. I know he wants to get back into coaching. I think he actually didn't get a fair shake in Milwaukee. Now coach bud has taken it to a whole different level. Just like Steve Kerr did when he took the gold state job from our Jackson and one of the harder things to do Jason Kidd. And Mark Jackson. Both were able to draft players that went on to be MVP level players to build around. They had that and go stay with Steph curry they now have that in Milwaukee with the Greek freak. What do you think does Jason Kidd as the next coach of the Lakers make sense to you J? Will it make sense of it makes sense to LeBron James it make sense of it makes sense? Lebron James don't think for one second. Lebron James is not going to handpick. His next head coach. Now Magic Johnson. And rob Pelinka is going to seem aesthetically they have inside, and they do to a certain extent. But LeBron James gonna picnics out there. What do you think I think it's going to be their humor, Tyrone, Ty? Ty lu. I think it's it's got to be one of those two guys will be the head coach Los Angeles Lakers next year. And I think that the only reason Luke Walton still right now is because Jeanie Buss Jeanie Buss likes, Luke. And you know, I would say that if it was up to Robin magic. They probably would have moved already on this situation. Jake kid is CAL's open. Cal fire their head coach yesterday. And the first thing that comes up is obviously Cal legend in Jason Kidd, and whether or not that would be a good fit for him monetarily..
"jason kidd" Discussed on Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin
"I mentioned earlier we appreciate your support there. And we were talking about the Lakers head coaching vacancy, which I think is inevitable that Luke will get like oh here. And I believe everyone that's involved understands that at this point. So one of the names that I had been hearing, and I talked to multiple people about this recently. That has been lobbying for the job pretty hard is Jason Kidd. Now, remember when we talked about Jason Kidd a couple of weeks ago Vegas or one of the biggest sites, I think it was vodka may have had him as the favorite at that particular time. So I asked Byron who coached Jason Kidd who went to two finals coaching Jason Kidd about Jason Kidd as the Lakers had coached now mind you again, he coached him, and Jason Kidd had two stints as coach that haven't gone, so well, but I found this uniquely refreshing from Byron simply because you don't normally hear this stuff. And this is why we have Byron on Byron another thing that I've heard kind of you know, in hush tones in whispers per se is that Jason Kidd is lobbying hard to try to be the next Lakers head coach. Now, I've heard that, you know, from different people not reporting it, necessarily, so you know, agr-. Gators backup. But but you coached him and we've seen him coaching stints weren't successful. What do you think of him as a potential coaching candidate for the Lakers? I think he's going to be on that short list to be honest with you me personally. I don't think he would be the right fit for the Lakers. I still like Mark Jackson. I like Brian Shaw. We haven't talked about a whole lot of as far as the next Laker coach. If that is exactly what they're going to do is make a coaching change. But I'm not a big Jason Kidd fan, you know. And that's just that's just me. I think that Mark Jackson branch out and bigger much better fit for the Lakers. I think Tyrone Lou would be a better fit as well. So you know, when you when you start putting a list together Volvos guys that you think would be the next Laker coach. He he's probably number four or five in my book. And I like I said, I just think the other three guys that I mentioned would be a better fit as why love that man. That man keeps it real as hell. Okay. That do what to do finals with the duty. He was talking about like now, man. Yeah. I mean, that's cool. And all but no, no. And I'm with him that that I I would not cosign on that. As the next Lakers. Head coach not at all Chris Montebello up. Chris. Hey, we're gonna even good. Hey, so listen just like with the different things that went wrong this season. I think it's going to be a combination of things to kind of get back on track. Obviously, if if we can get a star, of course, go for the star, you know, try to hit the home run. But if it's not happening. I think we need to be able to see the writing on the wall a little bit quicker and make the mental adjustment and just picking up some young hungry players like interest, not we went for journeyman. But like, we gotta get something better than Beasley. You know? What I'm saying like just hopefully guys wanna play it and understand the role that they're going to have on this team. Just and then aside from that like we can't relent once this season starts like we we can't relax can't back up. They need to be actively working all the time. And look whatever young players are main coups, whatever like, ultimately, they'll that gives them more time to progress during next season, and look any progress that we make well only make. Come into LA more attractive. So like what we have LeBron for three more years. Right. So look if he gives us a chip in his very last year that is successful in my book because that ties with the Celtics, and quite frankly, we're playing for chips. Right. That's that's all I gotta salmon. Appreciate it. Look, I think obviously plan a is get the star..
Luke Walton calls out Lakers veterans for selfish play after loss
"Ahead. Luke Walton he had an emotionally charged. Verbal with the veteran team members of the Lakers following their one fifteen to one zero one loss to the warriors last night. Walton was preaching the importance of teamwork after the loss, and he was reportedly challenged by several veterans hills included land, Stevenson, Michael Beasley, in McGee later reports claimed that the argument involved Beasley in the Josh heart. This comes on the heels of the report during the week that said the Jason Kidd could succeed Walton as head coach in LA decided to make a
Jason Kidd Could Succeed Luke Walton as Lakers Head Coach
"Walton has reportedly been in the hot seat since team has gone six of eleven without lebron they've slipped from fourth place to tiber nine in the west in currently add the playoff picture but according to your bleacher report jason kidd is among the potential placements and even the favourite to succeed role in it the lakers make a change so jason kidd's been fired here's sound that i'm hearing is gaining momentum jason kidd returning to the coaching ranks by succeeding luke walton with the lakers i know the kid wants to coach again in the case of jason and the lakers now sources are saying this has gone to the next level and that if the lakers do make them move on loop which based on all of the rumblings could happen sooner rather than later kit appears to be very much in the mix and possibly is even the faith if jason kidd ends up being the head coach of the lakers before the end of the season i would not be surprised
"jason kidd" Discussed on Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin
"Your dream job. You that's not the time to take your foot off the gas. That's the time to actually do the job. Lonzo's game is is somewhat a little bit dependent on the roster around him as well he yes, you want him to make his teammates better. But he's also going to kinda shine when basically guys are making shots, and he's kind of in the groove. But there are things that get him jump started. Like number one. When I look at Lonzo statistics or we just watching his game. I need to see him hit the glass when he hits the glass. Now, he gets the ball the ball's in his hands. We complain a little bit too much this whole narrative entering the season. Where people were like, oh, how is it going to work? Lebron dominates the ball. So as long as Lonzo does not dominate the ball. On fact, Lonzo need the ball in his hands more. He gets rid of it too fast because a hot potato. But when he grabs a ribbon on off the glass, and now he's looking to push. That's when he's engaged when he picks up guys full court ends defending them. That's when he's engaged. And then all of a sudden everything starts to flow there. That's what I like seeing aggressive. Lonzo ball. We don't see Lonzo ball enough where he's like basically probing driving to the lane and then kicking out and finding open teammates and things like that. Sometimes the ball gets to stagnant. And all of a sudden, I think Lonzo gets lost. I understand where Stephen as coming from. Because like you, and I we grew up in the nineties like I said, I was used to saying like if somebody was in front of Jason Kidd at or like, Gary Payton, they would want to murder that other point guard research joins us show. Ben lines phone in Donohoe ESPN LA James Davis coming up at four o'clock. But you gave me another reason why you can't compare Lonzo to Jason Kidd. You said it's roster dependent with Lonzo where he needs the right players around him. Him Jason Kidd Kerry Kittles to the finals, Jason Kidd was playing with Keith Van horn, those guys those guys were offensively pretty good. They just wanted to stay health. But also, Jason Kidd like you said had that not I wanna say it's Mamba mentality. More of a killer mentality. And also the mentality of I'm the best player on the floor. That's really what it is that coming down to the screaming and yelling and being emotional and trash talking and smiling and screaming, Kevin Garnett. The idea of this happened the other night when I went to the game and watch the Lakers when they didn't have LeBron they didn't ever Ondo, they didn't have Kuzina. So what are we gonna do? Just going to sit back and say, well, these games don't cow or we gonna look at them as teaching moments for Lonzo and Brandon Ingram and the young players to find their way. So that maybe this'll be an opportunity for Lonzo to say, I'm the best player on the floor. And he hasn't done that. He hasn't done that consistently in this time when LeBron's banal I talked to somebody from his camp the other day, and I said, hey, what's going on like? Lonzo's assist numbers have been down a little bit. And they were like, well he doesn't have the ball in his hands enough. I was like well. Yeah. When LeBron was healthy. Now when he's not healthy, you still kind of need him to have the ball little bit more his hands. But I understand when Brandon Ingram has to get going..
"jason kidd" Discussed on Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin
"Your dream job. You that's not the time to take your foot off the gas. That's the time to actually do the job. Lonzo's game is somewhat a little bit dependent on the roster around him as well. He yes, you want him to make his teammates better. But he's also going to kinda shine when basically guys are making shots, and he's kind of in the groove. But there are things that get him started leg number one. When I look at Lonzo statistics or we've just watching his game. I need to see him hit the glass when he hits the glass. Now, he gets the ball the ball's in his hands. We complain a little bit too much this whole narrative entering the season. Where people were like, oh, how is it going to work? Lebron dominates the ball. So as long as Lonzo does not dominate the ball. On fact, Lonzo need the ball in his hands more. He gets rid of it too fast because a hot potato. But when he grabs a ribbon off the glass, and now he's looking to push. That's when he's engaged when he picks up guys full court ends defending them. That's when he's engaged. And then all of a sudden everything starts to flow there. That's what I like seeing aggressive. Lonzo ball. We don't see Lonzo ball enough where he's like basically probing driving through the lane and then kicking out and finding open teammates and things like that. Sometimes the bog is to stagnant. And all of a sudden, I think Lonzo gets loss. I understand where Stephen as coming from. Because like you, and I we grew up in the nineties like I said, I was used to saying like if somebody was in front of Jason Kidd at Orla, Gary Payton, they would want to murder that other point guard research joins us show. Ben lines phone in for Donald ESPN LA James Davis coming up at four o'clock. But you gave me another reason why you can't compare Lonzo to Jason Kidd. You said it's roster dependent with Lonzo where he needs the right players around him. Him Jason Kidd Kerry Kittles to the finals, Jason Kidd was playing with Keith Van horn, those guys those guys were offensively pretty good. They just wanted to stay healthy. But also, Jason Kidd like you said had that not our say, it's Mamba mentality. More of a killer mentality. And also the mentality of I'm the best player on the floor. That's really what it is that coming down to the screaming and yelling and being emotional and trash talking and smiling and screaming, Kevin Garnett. The idea of tapping the other night when I went to the game and watch the Lakers when they didn't have LeBron they didn't ever Ondo, they didn't have Kuzina. So what are we going to do is going to sit back and say, well, these games don't count or we gonna look at them as teaching moments for Lonzo and Brandon Ingram and the young players to find their way. So that maybe this'll be an opportunity for Lonzo to say, I'm the best player on the floor. And he hasn't done that. He hasn't done that consistently in this time when LeBron's banal. I talked to somebody from his camp the other day. And I said, hey, what's going on like lonzo's assist? Numbers have been down a little bit. And they were like, well he doesn't have the ball in his hands enough. I like well. Yeah. When LeBron was healthy. Now when he's not healthy, you still kind of need him to have the ball little bit more his hands..
Are people sleeping on the Oklahoma City Thunder
"I want to get to another team in the west. That's been a surprise. Obviously we're talking about the nuggets. But how about the thunder Paul George had twenty five fourth quarter points and Russell Westbrook past Jason Kidd on the all time list for most triple doubles has the thunder win again. Okay. See has jumped all the way to second in the west guys. Let's not forget Russell, Westbrook's real real good. Stephen it. Are you buying thunder as real contenders combine them by them? I think Russell Russell Westbrook is a superstar in this league. Yes. And he is the he's the most ruthless competitor. There is in the word. Everybody that's not wearing the same uniform for those forty eight Paul George is something special and the watch him continue to Bob considering the injuries that he incurred. I give him a lot of credit where credit is due right now. He's averaging about twenty four point three games. Stephen Adams is obviously good. And then you look at some of the young talent grant and entrusted to pick up a forgot land. Big Tom pickup. I like what I'm seeing from them. I still don't have them go into the conference finals. Obviously, even though if the players would to begin today, it will be the Lakers vs Golden State in the first round. And then the legs will home, I'm thinking, nobody. But the Golden State out west would beat the Lakers in the postseason. But I will tell you go Oklahoma City is a force to be reckoned with because without having to deal with the whole mellow issue. And it's just about the big two in Stephen Adams in young talent that game Schroeder coming off the bench. I got to admit I'm very impressed with what I'm seeing from the Oklahoma City thunder right now, I. Cannot take my eyes off of them. I don't say it don't say they'll say, I'm kind of hoping the rockets don't get good this year. It's look so bad for Carmelo right now. Like, you take them off the team look at how much better they get. And I understand they're deeper and there are certain differences in the team. Now, then forget about Carmelo several years ago. But but but not take this team versus the team that failed against Golden State in game seven at oracle several years ago. Yes. There are some differences that make a difference. But we all know the NBA at the highest level is about your very best players guys. They pose zero threat to the warriors because they couldn't get past the warriors before the warriors had K de Paul Georgia's excellent is he is is not K D. And now Katy is on the warriors. So since their two best players used to be K, D And Westbrook. And now, it's K D And Paul George and now the team that they couldn't get past as Addie, Katie. There's no way for them to beat the warriors. There are threat to anyone
Russell Westbrook Passes Jason Kidd for 3rd-Most Triple-Doubles in NBA History
"Eighty milestone night in the NBA on Wednesday bow shots. No good Westbrook has his triple double and has passed Jason Kidd for third all time with his career. Triple double, sixteen points, ten rebounds, and ten assists. Boom, just like that WWL s Westbrook a career triple double number one hundred eight would share the headline for the night with Paul George should have given the ball. Eight point one left hundred down westbound between the risks slashes wet jumped hostile George open. Thanks. Tuck. George. Twelve. Paul George erupts twenty-five four quarter points, forty seven and Oklahoma City from twenty three back to cushion at one fourteen months. Well, oh my goodness. One forty one would be the final as the thunder get the win over the nets. And yes, you heard it, right? Paul George forty seven points on the night. Twenty five of them coming in the fourth quarter, including that three pointer with three seconds to go for the win thunder with a four game win streak theory are sixteen and threes since dropping their first four games of the season. Paul George forty seven points, fifteen rebounds Jeter with Fox Sports, Oklahoma. Yeah, we could see that one of your career high with forty seven you were hitting threes. Plotters was on gun to a comfortable place. Guys back as far as telling him to keep going. I started off a little slow. Keep going you guys you hit the final three two guys. What did you guys talk about? That was the playwright term slip Paul Russell screen calls confusion. Give free. I remember just a couple of weeks ago. You guys got nineteen. The kings tonight. You were down by twenty three is the largest comeback in thunder history. Let's the difference even in the growth from a couple of weeks ago. We learning game by game. And other. We burn off one another pretty she saw tonight. This whole group over here them starting. We're trying to get the. The mission accomplished. You guys do mosh pay or a Gatorade bath maybe ever. Where does this one for you? This is. Special night. We came out. Who's down against the war against the wall? We say we saw Paul