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PASSENGERS w/  Jason Clark and BN

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PASSENGERS w/ Jason Clark and BN

"Are you looking for your next? Listen Weird thing to say right looking for your next listen. Are you listening for your next thing to listen to? I guess that makes less sense anyways. Tune into surprisingly brilliant new podcast from iheartradio and seeker. For centuries science has given US breakthroughs. That have changed how we view our planet or universe or even our own bodies but achieving these breakers didn't come easy. This podcast will tell you the stories of the Bizarre Journeys Wild Experiments and strange ideas that leads the discovery of important medicine. The invention of life saving technology and evidence about the beginnings of life as we know it find surprisingly brilliant on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey Guys Ethan here. I know we're all going through tough times the quarantine so I wanted to read out some of the emails that I've been getting To do passengers. We've been asked to do this movie of a bunch of times. Here's one from Jake. Four twenty he says. Hey how? `Bout you do passengers and stop being such an Azinger's and then yes I am talking about. You specifically wow okay. So that's a little bit That's a little bit rude but hey thank you for writing in thank you for being a fan of the podcast. Already another one. This one is from ECON freak for twenty or another four twenty Hey loved the show. I am a scientists multiple. Phd's and I love listening to this show. Except for when Ethan talks. That guy is scum. I really hope you do the movie passengers and don't let Ethan Talk. He's a passenger. Wow Okay so another another passenger pun. They're making fun of me okay. Maybe let's just we'll save this for another time and I'll actually sort through them and maybe I'll pick a few instead of just reading them randomly and let's just get right into the episode up. This experiment did the movie. Get it right or will we have to fight? Hi everybody welcome to bed science. I'm Ethan Edinburgh your host. And today we're talking about the twenty sixteen movie passengers which we've been requested to do a few times and I thought was a flop but apparently made two hundred million dollars. I learned this morning. So it's in. My estimates are very successful film anyway. I have to really cool guests who hopefully cool by the end of the show. The first one. I'm looking up to call a friend. He is the CO founder of the contemporary clothing and lifestyle brand pyre and an immensely talented rapper. It's northview. Hey Hey you might like it for now. But you haven't heard the second intro so that might make you feel a little shitty damn well. Listen before we get to it Brian. Who Am I may call you Brian Throughout the podcast? Because like I said we do go back a little bit. We met in a private karaoke isolation pod. I don't know what those rooms are actually called. But but you did not perform Karaoke at that so I was curious. What is your go-to Karaoke track Mongo to Karaoke track would probably have to be like usher Sharer It would probably be like confessions or something like a popular ushers on just because I should my favorite saying like my biggest like idol. I would say wow I. I didn't know that Bega slight music influence I would say is Asher and then to pocketed biggie. Of course but like I should was definitely like the first person that really got me into music. Like awesome man so cool. I remember when I first saw my way that music video and I was like man the coolest guy in the world. Yeah so anyway. Our second guest here is a film and television producer. Whose credits include Ted Ted to Stuart Little Stuart little do the Orville and many more but for our purposes today. He's the executive producer of two thousand. Fourteen Cosmos Space Time Odyssey and the upcoming series cosmos. Possible Worlds. It's Jason Clark. I'm I'm still reacting to the realizing that I don't know him well and I'm talking to Brian. Who holds him at the highest level? I need to. I need to get it go to Karaoke attract in the first place and I don't know if I could ever seen an extra song man. Well listen if you want. We can pause right here. Take about a week off. And you can just go down in an usher rabbit hole. Thank you for having me. Yeah of course. No we are excited to have you on and I was. GonNa ask you. What your go-to Karaoke track is but you kind of just automatically admitted that you don't have one. Is that true kind of true to be honest with you? I'm intimidated by Karaoke. So I don't have great singing boys and so I get there and get very nervous when I was a kid. Several from dyslexia when Jones. Some slow reader a little bit and so I always get nervous to mix it up and I'd get nervous trying to read on the fly Adan Voice for it and I am. I embarrassed myself. Well hey honestly and this might be controversial and I don't care. I've never liked Karaoke. I don't I am a singer but it doesn't matter a whole environment. I think is conducive to the wrong type of hang is just a bunch of people that aren't great at singing like screaming into a microphone and get into which. I don't really do. I don't know man. It just seems like a terrible idea. Definitely an acquired things. You won't find me there Brian. I apologize in advance that you will find me and trust me. I. I don't think I'm the type of personal really Go on my way to do. Karaoke singer like musicians. It's like you know. Hey this is our job. We don't WanNa go out on Saturday. We'll do we. There's very specific conditions to doing your job. That'd be like you going to produce some sort of spelling bee or something or take pitches on Saturday night. You'RE GONNA get up. You'RE GONNA pitch us in fifteen minutes new episodes of Cosmos. The new episodes of cosmos pitched to you by an eighth grader. Who's also wasted and we're going to give him a microphone. Never pitched anything before that Guy. That can really do some great work. Yeah and also maybe that's an idea for DV show. Maybe we should watch that. That actually sounds good anyways. I don't know how you feel northview. I Love Cosmos. I'm a huge fan of this show. I'm not saying it because you're on the podcast. Today I just legitimately I watched it twice the first one. I'm very excited for new one. So we gotta talk about that. Obviously we're gonNA talk about passengers. We're going to talk about all things space and being stuck in a induced stasis if you will but I do have to ask about the show first of all. How long does it take the show to make like have you guys been working on the new one since twenty four since the last one came out almost from the beginning of Twenty seventeen we started on it. But it's a multi year process and obviously Andrew who is the CO Creator Cosmos. Carl Sagan the very first one in nineteen eighty and has been our creative leader. And it's really her show. In the last two seasons she starts jury eating stories. I would say yes. She started right after that. There are so many brilliant stories that need to be weaved together to create thirteen hours of this kind of science show that's unprecedented because it kind of wanders Through the truth it doesn't give direct line. It's not like today's episode is brought to you by oxygen. It's kind of or the song or something. She really is an incredible storyteller and she leaves the stories together so taste a long time for her to conceptualize which stores together in how that take you to these kind of Realizations about the we are where we come from the wealthy movement so it does take a long time. It takes many years. I mean I think we worked on the first one four years in this one Fox News. Four years to in shot around the world. So there's that piece of it you know if you're shooting. Goose Rolling in Agra or vs migrating takes months and months. And I don't want to tell you how to do your job of course however a lot of the show you know. He's on a spaceship. It's you know. Cgi based I mean. Can't you guys just put Degrasse Tyson on a green screen and be like? Oh I'm in Italy Blah Blah Blah. Well we do a lot of that. Believe me we take you know. First of all we go places. You can't go so we have to do that right out. You know diving into the seas of enceladus or whatever but the reality is is that you know we don't we do a fair amount of that but the plates that were shooting plate photography elsewhere for going into a try to be as offensive as possible so suk shooting unit actually goes there and if we go to Moscow needs to be snow. Wait for the snow. So there's all kinds of Were in them. In Alaska. We had to wait for collapsing. There's a particular place last season where the cliffs collapsed. We actually had to go out there and wait for that but we also had filming conditions that allowed us to film it when it happened. Now there's quite a bit subject to real nature in filming of Cosmos. Even though some of it can be Get it while it's an unbelievable show as I'm sure you know more than anybody and I can't tell you how excited I am for it but I wanted to jump for a second before we get into passengers and I'm building this up. But so you also produced nineteen ninety-five sudden death with John. Claude van Damme and for those who don't know about that movie. I'm going to read the log. Line Brian Do you know about this movie? I do not know about this movie. Though about either the law the law line of this movie is a former fireman takes on a group of terrorists holding the vice president and others hostage during the seventh game of the NHL Stanley Cup finals. So just based on that. I got to see this movie. That sounds great and I wanted to know if you had any John. Claude van Damme stories because I hear he's quite the character honestly. I did three rooms with the amended. Sundance I did a movie. That quests that he actually directed oh yet did two movies with Dolph Lundgren. So I have this. I have this past him These action movies advantium stories Just a remarkable kind of character in one of these was the director and his kind of vision for what the movie should be was always changing citing lead on. He was a different error. It was a different time sudden death. One of our partners was a minority owner payments oh shoot it at the civic arena. So there was we actually shot the arena and one point. We had a drop of helicopter from ceiling of the arenas we have suspended these cranes in dropping but it was dropping right on nice and There was this kind of you know. Absolute terror that we were somehow going to get the is with this multi ton object That was free falling in on these two senators and destroy the bits were civic arena so We managed to avoid that but we also managed to film but one time there was a lock on the owners to the players so British were approaching it. We have no professional players for these. You know thirty pages of take place on the ice so it was a compelling man but the I don't really it was a wild ride in I loved. I loved working with him and he took me around the world on those movies. I shot in every conceivable country at a time in the nineties. When it was really exciting to travel to places like China and try to the Beijing Film Studios Man Man. That sounds like a whole. We're talking about tiger king a little before the podcast sounds like you have a whole documentary. Just you know about what you've been through all these all these adventures. I would love to see a helicopter almost story of Hockey Stadium. I tell you it was. It was very tense film. But what's the guys named Joe Exotic Joel Exotic has nothing on John Banville? Jon George vandamme stories are much more wild also eat van. Damme is such an authentic character in a lot of ways. It's it's really by the music. Yes so I really. I have a really fun place in my heart for word when at one point I finally had to put my hand up. Say Hey I have to move on. But I got to meet all of the great on comfortable makers nineties through mys- grants with their remember directed art a jungle directed hard target with Van Damme. This is first english-speaking movie. Yeah I worked with him and Moshe diamant who brought John will will ping the martial arts master who is basically the Spielberg of Hong Kong in China. All of these filmmakers. I got to now or with breakpoint. Manso awesome yeah. I Love Van Damme. And I'm going to have to get a list from you. After this about those Hong Kong movies I gotta I gotTa go down that hole and you got to start listening to a bunch of usher so passengers. Have you guys seen this movie prior to me asking you to see this movie? Yes Yeah I've seen that movie once. But I had to rewind shit okay. Sorry about that. Data they're both had seen it already. Okay what we're going to. What were your thoughts when you you first saw it for me. At least I mean I was. I was a fan of mainly because of Jennifer Lawrence. Always use a good actor but like I kinda liked the concept of it. I didn't really The science aspect of it felt like kind of tripped me out a little bit. What would it mean which aspect just being asleep from hundred and fifty years in then you know the concept of time between space always tripped me out to like? I don't really understand that either. Like yeah that was confusing. I definitely made that note also as far as like so. They're just not aging but they're not frozen because usually that's how we show that I guess But Yeah Jason. What were your thoughts on the movie I was like? Oh my God I gotTa See and then the trailers came out may drop the new look into Goma. That's the most beautiful looking day. The design of the movies or just it's time to super shake out of space for the incredibly long journey only two people. So there's this wish film and Light Imagine having entered your disposal all of these things and then I saw the movie and I had I had hold back on it because I felt like I don't know the Guy Short. Circuits is four girls. Pod wakes her up so already on like this guy right like I would have wished that he was trying to fix it somehow right but somehow I understand his desires in. Why does it but at the same time I I never really got past that in the storytelling and then the science far would also young. Who signed up for that mission trip? How long what a hundred and fifty bus ride? Wow a how does that work? I get that use clusters and also. Where do they come up with that time? Like how fast they they're going half the speed of light. Someone says. I don't know if that helps you at all but someone did say that. Yeah so I guess it half the speed of light again and then. How do you slow down? Something going half the speed of light to a live at the bus stop. I was wondering what do you do? I mean there's an engine on one side you turned the ship around star fire in the other direction. Can you turn around? It's going after the speed of light and if you do. Where's the force field? That's in the front of it is done in the backyard. So what are you running into if you run into space dust does it? Does it riddle the ship with I'd Roy? I know there's not a lot out of space but I mean honestly. The last thing you mentioned was my biggest issue with the movie. I enjoyed the movie I thought for. Some reason was gonna be way worse just because I think maybe I've heard people make fun of it but I'd never seen it so I was like. Oh well whatever maybe it's just a bad flick but it was fine. It was entertaining but this thing that happens at the beginning where the spaceship they show you. How hyper advanced. It is I mean. It's certainly like way in the future. Technology is like off the charts. Apparently but it doesn't see that there's a debris field it like drives right into a field of asteroids and meteors and then there's like a huge one that hits it and it just has no way of stopping that or going around it that that part to me was like so silly young and the other thing that I've noticed is the end zone a whole time which I think in space you're in the snack and there's a part of where you go okay debris field but how much the breeze From what I understand. There's a lot of sanctions face. And Yup. The chances of any something are pretty limited. Obviously if you get something half the speed of light it can be catastrophic. I mean I gotta say it didn't look like it was going that fast when it showed it hit in that big rock that rock also wind also confused. Why didn't they have like people in the movie? That was like wake up like I guess. Like as certain periods of time you know 'cause one hundred fifty years or whatever. The number was a long time for nobody to wake up to check on everything. Yeah not much. Trust in the technology on the movie yeah. They said a few times like when when he wakes up in the error. He's asking like why isn't anybody awake. What's going on and everybody's just like? Oh because the systems run perfectly there are no errors but yet they have like a bunch of crew and there's five thousand people so I don't know it would seem like you would want some sort of fail safe there and then also I had an issue. I'm sorry now I feel like I'm just complaining about the movie which I did enjoy but nobody can go back into the pod like once you're up you're up and it's over. Yeah that's crazy under sphere pods. When he went wrong. Bobby woke up. He's got to go back to sleep because you wake up. You didn't face. The ninety year says so being away along but I will say that I think and I don't WanNa complain about the movie beautiful. And it's this kind of filmmaking in it was terrific. I love the scale of this happened. We can say well you know if you have something of that mess the swimming pools and everything. You're trying to half the speed of light. I can't imagine the amount of power put into that in the technology that will be involved there at half the speed of light. Then you know you would probably shut off the most because with Tran. And if there's a fuel involved you wouldn't want to burn that fuel Yeah no there was definitely a few kind of odd things that I was trying to ignore. I wrote them down because I'm also taking notes but I was trying to ignore to enjoy the film will okay so the first if you haven't seen the movie essentially Chris Pratt's character who I don't remember his name and that's a bad sign for me as a host and for the movie. So he wakes up. He's the only person that wakes up in this ship. He's going to be on it for ninety more years and he basically tries everything to wake people up. It doesn't work. And so now he this option he has this choice because he like falls in love with the idea of Jennifer Lawrence's character Aurora. And he does. It obviously wakes up and they have a whole I mean. Here's a huge twist in spoiler for you. They they end up together. They make out and stuff in the movie. Nobody saw that coming surprised when the movie said Jennifer Lawrence and Chris. Pratt in this movie. I said she's GonNa end up with Michael Sheen. Or Laurence Fishburne issues. Not Ending up with I. I know I didn't. It was such a. It was like a typical. Like game of thrones level twist losing freaking out wanted to see that relationship happen anyhow was well cast in mind. But we also didn't see the relationship of Laurence Fishburne and Jennifer Lawrence O. Who knows which one would have been better taken point taken and my first question to you guys is what would you do? If you're a you probably can't get into the mindset of somebody who has to spend a longtime in isolation I mean. Why would anyone of us ever do that but he's dancing? He's drinking heap eats. Eventually HE BREAKS DOWN. Needs human contact so a can you guys relate to this in our current pandemic and also. Would you buckle? Do you think and wake somebody up or you know attempt to kill yourself as he. Does this movie a hard question thank you? I feel like I feel like for me personally. I probably would have done the same thing as And just look somebody up and said I honestly now now I'm not gonNA say as I would work the whole ship to but I think that I would. I would have walked somebody up at least two just because that human contact like you kind of need that especially in a situation like that. That's really tough. Yeah it's a really tough situation to be and I agree I would've I would've First of all it goes to the earlier question of like you wish they would have had somebody. I mean it's like it's like asking serious questions. They keep misunderstanding him at the beginning of OB. I mean there has to be some kind of emergency protocol that can be reached so I would have searched for that and I know this is an enormous ship. Five hundred meters in diameter. Or whatever it's supposed to be but I hope there would have been some kind of if you have a problem. Dial zero and there was like well. Nobody's awake in another one here but but he confronts the idea of the ship never planned on this. A discount event happen to me and I had exhausted all other avenues. I think I would be compelled to wake up. You know and I know he tries to really get into the crew room for whatever reason that's blocked off. Yep but I haven't woken somebody up here when he tries to send a message in say well at the speed of light the message is GonNa take fifty five years to get back to you. Know to get an answer. It's GONNA take years to get there than thirty five years to get back some. I can't remember the timeline that they perform their. Yep which gives you the indication of how far they travel in thirty years with ninety years left to go. Yeah I think I probably would have also woken somebody up. And maybe based on expertise like he's an engineer type guy so maybe would have found some sort of. I don't know communications person or like some sort of tech guy and been like all right. I'm this might be terrible but I'm going to wake up people that can help me brainstorm away to fix this. I was also thinking. Is there like a? There's nothing in between Earth and where they're going which seems impossibly far like. There's no halfway like rest. Stop Type Planet or I mean I don't know it just seems weird as we slowly get into commercial space travel that there wouldn't be some like if you're going to Mars. Maybe you can stop at the moon. I don't know I mean. Look there's the closest planet that could possibly be exoplanet this Proxima Centauri veep and it is a planet circling Proxima Centauri and It's I don't know how many light years away it is twelve but if you're traveling at the at the current isn't wealth it Israel my friend. Yeah so if you can't say you're twenty four years away so my first question. He's going at half the speed of light. Actually at the current limitation of one hundred fifty thousand miles per hour whenever spacecraft limitation is would take tens of thousands of years to get the question really becomes. Would that be the rest of it by the way? What is the planet? They're going to in relationship to that is. Is that out of your way. You know you don't WanNa you don't WanNa go out of your way. Of course rest up. Yeah no that's true that's annoying somebody or something you're going to go. Twelve years younger sucks. I want to mention that. That is the closest like you said the closest thing to earth that we have found in the universe and it's thousands and thousands of years away so I guess it's kind of important that we take care of the Earth so in case you're wondering like how vital is like environmental stuff like that should be a pretty high priority because I think based on that if we ruin the earth where like super screwed. Yeah just in case you guys completely disagreed some less you said it. There is a planet. That's how many years away from our well. It's it's it takes a twelve years for light to travel from Earth that so if you set the radio signal and we get their twelve years or a few flasher in your laser beam at it. We'd get their twelve years and if they got that message sent it back so any messages take twenty four years round threat to to send their because we have not learned how to travel the on speed of light any large objects. We haven't learned how to travel at fifty percent the speed of light. We don't have the amount of energy to create it in if we did. We believe that would happen. At the solar sail level so something very thin unmanned craft without a lot of mass because we could accelerate using. You know there's this kind of theory that we can use land-based lasers and we can point these lasers at a portion of the sky night sky and if we send these ship sized spacecraft the size of like a computer chip in we wrap them in something that could be like a three nigger a large deion super thin almost cellophane incredibly thin solar sail. The laser light could hit those sales. The same way wind is sales on inner and that win the light would be creating that. Light would accelerate though sales if we turned off the light. Oli Crab the sales would be traveling in friction the environment and increasing in speed. So we could get these spacecraft unmanned spacecraft. Tiny chips is thing. Send a thousand or multiple thousands of them up there. Bam with this Laser light this terrestrial based laser array spectacular amounts of entry accelerated to a speed that could be approaching a third of the speed of light. Now this craft in passengers traveling half the speed of light. So I'm not sure how you take something with that mass. That scale that the design so beautifully in the movie and get it accelerated to that the tonette fee but the issue with the plane until you which is based in Real Science. Nasa said once you get to Proxima B. which a third of the speed of light means in thirty six year journey as we were twelve light years away. You GotTa take pictures of it now. Part of the reason to send an array of these craft. These tiny graph is because some of them are venditti wiped out by solar dust. Even you know when you're traveling when you're a tiny chip on the cellophane in large disc of sale. You hit a piece of dust. It's GonNa tear of horror at a third of the speed of light. That's me so how do you slow down when you get there to take the pictures? The problem an chandler really fast. Pass it man. That's wild yeah and then to send the pictures back. Take both years so that we're a long ways away. We're very primitive in space travel. I think not to insult anybody who works in space travel. But you know as far as getting to another planet Proxima Centauri be specifically. It seems like we're we're quite a ways away and that's the closest that we've identified that could be in the habitable zone. Yikes all right. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. Hey bed scientists Ethan here and I'm going to tell you about a new podcast that I'm super excited about called surprisingly brilliant. It's another secret podcast. So if you like this podcast you're GonNa love surprisingly brilliant. It's hosted by Greg Foot and Merrin Huns Burger. It's a podcast that tells you too. Bizarre Journeys Wild Experiments and strange ideas that led to the discovery of important medicine. The invention of life saving technology and evidence about the beginnings of life as we know it. 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Answer first and we'll see how many guys can get right. It's all space related stuff. I know okay. What is the hottest planet in the Solar System? Isn't it well is I mean? Would this be considered a planet? I don't know what is considered a friend so yeah I can't answer that for you. Bro. Don't Google it Jason. I duNno Venus Mercury. I don't know which I Dina Super Hot because of the runaway greenhouse gas at that that is true. Which is I will give you. The the point is Venus. Mercury is closest to the sun so I was hoping somebody would guess that wrong but we didn't get their Landa Russian spacecraft. They said like a peach on the windows. Your car about the twelve seconds. It's super right crazy crazy hot but it's GD lava zone. You can make pizzas there all day. Which actually that sounds great. Let's go eight hundred degree pizza. That's worth the trip right there. Absolutely I like might be used. His real toasty. Okay the planning yet totally burn. I WANT MY PIZZA SLACK CHART. I want them to fall apart when I picked him up. The planet most likely chance of life in our solar system Mars Mars quick one. Brian Love It. When is the next time Haley's comet will pass by the Earth? I don't even know what. Hey He's common is very cool. I love your honesty thirty years. Yeah that's pretty twenty sixty one pretty close. That's the next time we'll get to see Haley's beautiful face. How much do you think of all NASA SPACESUIT COSTS CUSTOMERS? I only have full NASA spacesuit. I'll say I'll say like fifty thousand okay Jason Clark. Twelve million dollars folks. What's a full NASA space? Whose twelve million bucks. So save up. If you're trying to make your own space company. Can we do better? I haven't seen a bunch of an improvement on the design accepted science like I thought those suits they had in passengers look pretty good but you know what are they. Don't even know what they look like. They're the ones that face. Lots on the shuttle right those those to them. Yup those are them this according to planet dot org or the planet's Dot Org. I think so if you have any issues take them up with them not me Zainur. They need a better designed and let's face yeah. Lululemon for somebody to get into that game okay. Obviously there's footprints on the moon so for anybody listening that thinks it was a hoax. That's not true. I've I've talked to people and they've well. I can't say that I've been there. So maybe it is a hoax. But if you accept that there's footprints on the moon when A. How long are they estimated to remain intact in a? I'm assuming that if they I don't know I feel like they would stay because there's not like isn't that something to wash over him. I guess I don't know about any bribes infinite. I don't know I mean yeah exactly. There's there's not much disturbance or disruption don't see any dust storms up there so I would say that they would be there for thousands of hundreds of thousands of gifts. Yep You're you're both pretty much one hundred million years and it's because of what you said that there isn't there stuffing stuff moving around up there. There's this scene in the movie. Were Jennifer Lawrence is swimming and the gravity gets initiated wrongly. And she's like floating in this ball of water. Do we know of any floating water in space? You free-floating I know nothing about that. Does that if water was in spaced out there would have to be a source for it right. So would that water would come from okay. So I which planet is in Solace they move Measure which will insults is nice slander in underneath the Ice Speculations. Water and that was recently converted. Whatever industries out there the saw signs from what they were shooting the polls the assumption is that will cause a pressure the around or under Ice Ocean to. He's not into cities and so that was water under the. I don't know in the bathroom. Space Water Return is pretty quickly. And that's you know there's a lot of Hamas center ice the ice sales coughs so it wouldn't be one of their would be heated by a star or Sun close enough to be melted or by the internal pressure of a planet under that ice. And that's the only place. I know that there's GonNa leave the water when it escapes. The Planet is water for some period. Well I got to look that up. It sounds fascinating. I did not know about that as I don't know about pretty much anything in life. So astronomers have found a massive water vapor cloud which holds one hundred and forty trillion times. The mass of water in the Earth's oceans somewhere ten billion light years away making it the largest discovery of water ever found so. I thought that was pretty frigging crazy. Wow that's an extra out. Yeah for sure. Here's a question for you. I was terrified by swimming in that water. And that you can't escape the water and she can move her mass against the massive the water but the water keeps winning in this free. I actually I enjoyed that sequence even though I believe scientists probably a little bit erupted. Yeah did that frequently not complete? Premia I wasn't I I don't even know what do in that situation like. I don't know I feel like I would have probably given up because I don't. I don't know there's not much you can do like. You're just in a giant bubble of water. I don't eat. You can't really get out of that when gravity is like I mean taken into account and there's no gravity there so again completely give up after trying to swim really hard which I'm sure she did. And everyone's first impulse my brain and this is just proof of how stupid. I am was like. Oh maybe if I hold my breath I'll like float to the top and it's like well of course you're holding your breath you can't breathe in the water you jackass not an option so you should drought. I think that was a very effective scene and I really enjoyed it. I know that people say well listen. The fake gravity is created by Subtropical Force as this thing spins me. See The outside of the spacecraft in so it's pushing stuff against A. It's outside the wave few when you're GonNa Take Kurt Tournament car. I against the door. So that forces what they're using to create the gravity but when it stops the ship wouldn't stop spinning minutes and there's a lot of mass spinning that might take a few minutes for to slow down. It's like a flywheel. It's not gonNA stop because you stop feeding energy to before I felt that that water probably would have been stuck in that pool for a little longer than it was Kinda just popped out but despite all that science fairs. Qassim was fantastic. Yeah I'm sure that was one of those situations where they were like well. We could go science route and make this really accurate but it is kind of cool to have somebody struggling in a floating all of water. So let's not look into it too much exactly. Yeah it's a great Seattle. Yeah I feel like people wouldn't have thought about it that deeply as far as that goes because they just the scene long captured. Everybody's attention to the point where they kind of forgot about the science behind it you. Yeah Yeah I think that was the right move. Actually and Okay I wanted to bring up something else. So when somebody gets injured in this movie or needs to be evaluated medically. They put them in. This thing called the auto doc which is essentially like another pod. You can get analyzed at one point. They wake up Chris. Pratt from when he's basically dead. It stays resuscitate him and then he talked about putting her in there because he's like. Oh well I could put you in into an induced state here into a hibernation and you can just live out your life when we arrive and I'll just die here and it's like why is there just one of these. There's five thousand people on the ship. They're GONNA be awake for months. They said before they get somewhere. What if two people are sick? I gotta say then you bring up a good point in light of how this podcast lines the three of us. Probably all unger down at home. Yep and watching the news about this alien invasion of virus but like the Beijing where the world is under threat by common enemy and all of us are under the threat of death by this thing. And the reality is you know. We don't have enough either. Hopefully this moment in history teach those guys have more medical man. I really hope so. We need so much more medical shit in general and I. I hope this podcast and more. So just what's happening right now? Teaches everybody that but since you mentioned aliens you believe in Aliens. I believe intelligent life form. I mean this intelligent life form on the planet that we don't even understand and that's one of the ideas in Cosmos. And if you get into the incredible that's what I'm talking about. Yeah I honestly need wash corresponds because I haven't seen episode but my brother keeps telling me about it but I do think that there is life out there for sure and I do think that there is like some species that we don't know about here on earth too yeah. I think just the idea that we're just coming into the realization of kind of tracking affected animals communicate on a level that we were unaware and for that matter. Plants due to through the mice. Union Network Matt. Yeah go making these incredible discoveries right now about and I think it will help us understand how to listen for signals space As someone said may have been trying to reach for the last ten thousand years from Alien Percival. It takes forever for sale to th-row for the light waves to travel that distance. So what did they hung up a while ago? We have anybody I say. We quit and we realized the hundred years ago at a listen so true. And you know. If you're interested in podcasts. I would never personally promote a different podcast on a podcast. But I have this other podcasts with restart about aliens called Aliens. Podcasts restarted breaking down. Why aliens or real so definitely. Check that out if you're into it but you know obviously we'll edit that out because self promotion is so gross but I also wanted to talk about sleep because obviously they're sleeping for one hundred years in this thing but when they wake up they all have these like hibernation hangovers. Where they kind of groggy. I guess it's probably similar to like a real hangover that we experienced. But I wanted to ask you guys if you experienced that kind of stuff when you oversleep sometimes I find you know if I sleep like eleven hours for whatever reason then. I'm like all groggy and crap. The next day yeah I would say I definitely like that too when I see to hibernation hangover some heavy drinking the night before and then sleep. I wake up way home over in and I can't seem to pull my life so I have to be very careful about drinking particularly when I'm stuck at home and so right now is a high risk period for me and in fact during this podcast I would say I am in that state. You're in the in the hangover state. The garage having trouble wagering oversleep overslept. Kinda IT'S A it's a. It's a period which that can happen to us. You know 'cause I six o'clock you're saying. He had left the house in three weeks. That got A. I've never experienced a hangover and I've been I've never experienced a hangover but maybe because I only drink select like alcohol so I don't know if that has something to do with it. Maybe on me like you were like more vodka. But you're classy boy. Yeah but just rip right now Hennessy or or what do they call Whiskey sours and I know? That's like a with a whiskey but Yeah I never I never get my hangovers. You haven't enough you think. That's what it is. You don't go you know you don't limit. I haven't changed enough or if his because I need to. Maybe try a different alcohol but like there's been times where item mixed alcohol's I'd never got like hanging over the next day. It was strange like I've never had a hangover. Not being like your secret. I need to know your secret because I can't have two drinks without getting a wake up the next day all I drank. I know that I had a drink. The Your Assessment Brian. That's enjoy it could change. Yeah I I definitely agree with that there. I think it will sage at Uley as of right now. I know that I have not experienced the complete or I'd ever experienced hangover period. I it's a great time to To test it out you know what I mean. You're in a safe environment. Got You got a bunch of time so I mean I don't know if you're GonNa do this or not but I'll just go ahead and promote like follow northview because now he's going to be live streaming himself being more drunk than he's ever been as a test to see if he gets hung over the. I'm in some viewers. Right here man. I'm GonNa Watch you drink it at the you get. Mta gets kind of silly. And then I want to see the next morning I want you to be livestream when you wake up immediately. Start Life during when you wake up yards in Murrieta. Yeah and then talking about what you shrink and then what you're going to try you know the next night. Well I tried mixing Tequila and vodka. I had four drinks. I feel fine so tonight I'm GonNa have eight drinks also very dangerous saying I feel like I'm Jay alcohol very fast. Yeah I guess that's true of water. I think we just saw Bryan sacred. He's he's moderate drinker. Where the moderate drake's chief that everybody you know. Yeah yeah play needs wondering I'm here in isolation and I'm thinking about the movie passengers in Lincoln alone going back to the question yesterday earlier about. What would you do if your mom you know? How long does it take that? We remain in isolation before we start to feel like the absolute unbearable need to risk to take the risk to be with other people. That's really a you know. That's the center that movie. I wonder if that movie come out now if it would have been perceived different. Yeah I mean I think you know and I think it's probably good that we kind of wrap up. I know we're getting close to the time on. Just you know what people can do. We just did an episode about contagion with some tips. But we didn't really talk about how to remain like socially sane and I think that that's what's coming to mind with what you're saying like because obviously it's not worth the risk of getting super sick or dying or get somebody else 'cause you you don't know that it's in you so I think like all these like zoom meetings facetime stuff because in the normal day to day life right now everybody would just like text or see their friends where they see them at a party or they perceive co workers at work but we have to kind of like make time for that on purpose. You know like literally schedule I've been doing. Little group hangs with a few friends and we just have to say like okay who is free Thursday night. Six to seven thirty. Let's all just get together. I mean get together. You know all all sign in and like just talk about stuff and and you know what you've been watching lately and how you've been feeling and I think that that hopefully will put off the insane need to like go out and like actually make contact. The person will hopefully You know we see all these great things that are happening like Venice. Canals get clear. Dolphins are back in dentists in Beijing. The air is clean. Hopefully they're things like that. What you're talking about. Where their social benefit that's positive too and also environmental benefit that's positive from the experience in we can begin to value a little bit more time. But it's a I was thinking about passengers. I just realized that it is about isolation. And how how much can somebody take? Absolutely I think to the exercise part. I I really enjoyed and I thought that made way more sense like like you were saying 'cause I just saw for the first time today. So obviously I'm putting it into the context of the pandemic but Jennifer Lawrence wakes up and it's only her and one other guy and they basically know like probably doomed. We're just gonNA live our lives on the spaceship but she's still working out every day she's still running around and swimming and I thought that was kind of a cool advice. Almost like kind of this movie. Weirdly telling me like. Hey just because you don't have to go anywhere doesn't mean that you need to like put your health on the back burner you. Are you guys doing exercises at home or you're doing a bunch of squats so many years we've been looking at a few different exercise on China. I'm trying to get back into an iconic fell off for a while. I'm going to be completely honest but I've definitely been looking up more exercises that I do just from home in. I've looked into some equipment that I could just buy. Just use back here at home by dumbbells and stuff. Just say absolutely not. I'm not doing anything in every day. I regret it and I get so depressed. That about about six or seven o'clock start drinking is I'm just impressed. Exercise Cycle vicious cycle. Yeah that is not going to help your exercise motivation. My Yeah I've been trying to vary embarrassingly. Did this live dance. Class thing which debatable. Whether that was beneficial or not trying I I did. I did turn off for like a week or so and just was in this weird place of you. Know what the Hell's going on what comes next. But now it's like okay. Let me get my own normalcy. You know my own habits until this thing you figure itself out But but. Listen let's tell people you know what's going on How can they follow? You obviously Brian. We're all going to be tuning in to watch you get like crazy wasted and vomit and then wakeup totally fine. So how can people do that? you can follow me at northview on instagram twitter and that's NRT h a. v. i. e. w. and that you mean stay too because something like that may just become so. I would love that on the awesome. Yeah I'm also. I should've mentioned before on on a similar boat as far as like there's a weird like alarm or something that goes off in my head when I'm drinking. We're after like two drinks. I can't drink anymore I just. I don't know what it is but my body gets into a fear mode and I shut down and I get really tired too. I'm not a drinker like one hangover in college. So I'll just join you is is essentially what I'm saying. Just purposefully get too drunk with you to see what our bodies can handle so that people can enjoy it you know. We're we're doing this out of philanthropy right. Yeah Yeah of course. Not OUT OF DRUNK. Podcast is the next step. All SCANDAL HAVE FRONT POCKET. Just totally drunk and we'll talk about science in a way that feels much steeper really will turn out to be the next morning and then we'll have to listen to it back next comment. Yeah honestly I will like. I'll get to a point where Mike what I would be saying. Well that's the ideal man and also I feel like we this with Cosmos Somehow. Which obviously everybody needs to watch cosmos the new. Well Brian you to the old series I a couple times and then see this new cosmos possible worlds and maybe we can just watch it while we're getting like trash we can make like some sort of drinking game out of it talk about what's going on and then review it the next day. I am all in this show would be. That's the thing of Markaz votes. Is that? There's so much there anyone this kind of incredible adventure this journey this great storytelling journey that in any state. It's it's fun to watch and it's it's fun to share with other people. Yeah I'M GONNA make some bad pun for this. You Know Cosmopolitan possible worlds. I don't know there's something there I'll find it but but yeah Jason's or anything else you you know Suggest people should check out that you've been working on or is it all cosmos all day. Tv show or vote which is coming back for a third season on Hulu and Cosmos is really out there right now on national geographical halfway through the season on Monday nights at nine o'clock or eight o'clock on Monday nights and they're running back next week is GonNa be incredible and then Coming up here we'RE GONNA be out on Fox and then it's GonNa drop digital talk a little bit and it's GonNa be really exciting if you get a chance to detach it on national geographic now for it's for me run or otherwise you're GonNa Fun Digital Fox News. Yeah Yeah watching on National Geographic. I've on Fox's that part of Hulu is that can I watch it? They're national geographic. You speak connected but The broadcast network of Fox last year stage. Its own day. And then all the other studios including National Geographic went to did. We originally were going to be insane day almost between Fox network traffic that the changed a little bit so we have the benefit of being like. Oh you can watch it in this frame a national geographic with nearly summer on Fox. But you know Fox's schedule is changing obviously day to day. Who knows what's we could. We could arrive sooner than I than I anticipate on Fox and then we'll be on digital platforms Awesome I hope everybody gets a chance to see. It's a great. Yeah me too. I'm sure it's unbelievable and yeah. I'm sure the industry right now super crazy or you think there's going to be like way more animated shows because of this like if it continues for the next few months just find that it's probably I don't know like impossible to film for a while right to get a bunch of people in a room and film something. Yeah it's a real to look. We are in the middle of a sea change in the industry people are holding me movie theaters watching streaming services on the on the production side. Who knows because what they're talking about is if we get control over this year and a half before there's a potential vaccine to the virus right end in that timeframe had filmed stuff because during the summer that could be a slowdown in spread of the virus. But you know you're asking the gross in people travel around the world Thumbs in television there may people may be less willing to travel. So I think you're GONNA see an upsurge in domestic production but you're also you're gonna see it's GonNa be triggered. It's hard for me so I think Brian Show is GONNA be dead. People turn that on once a week on the Friday night show. Yes wait for this show and I think you guys both so much for joining me. 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THE AFTERMATH - Double Toasted Audio Review

Double Toasted

24:52 min | 2 years ago

THE AFTERMATH - Double Toasted Audio Review

"Okay. This can go bid taking on Donald by care about this movie. Busey's? Don't. I know I know Yali heard of this why L reviewing this Hainault bodies in a all say, we only review the big movies. We hit show you that. We don't know. We look at everything. Plus, you never know you never know what you never knew. Because I tell you. I had heard anything about this move with aftermath. I did only one thing here and see if it was worth seeing and I saw the cast, and I don't do all the time 'cause some movies, I see a small, and they don't have any Castanon ebbing great. But but this I was busy that day. And I said, you know, something I really look and see if this is something that we will actually talk about something. That's not something small. I'm not make sure I'm not seeing some local filmmaker who's bought the theatre out. So we can watch their their short film now. No, no. I I get to me. It was the cast. It was it was a member of the cast. And I was like, okay. They were in something big one year. So. Yeah. It's it's cured nightly. Boy whose own a roll today, even some people wondering why Jason large Ason clock. I like him Skarsgard boy, Alex scarlet sandy Alexander Skarsgard. Listen, I got one thing that can make stick around being gone yet. Good, Nazis and love is tomorrow last night. Yeah. It wasn't good Nazis than any love to. And that's what this movie's about and this deals with now. This was something fascinating. I'm on. I'm actually going does. Yeah. I'm not gonna even say anything usually it's a setup for for these trailers. But as one of those things where my my criticisms good in bed. Come in from telling you about the story after you see the trailer because there was something here that I thought was very promising. I'll describe more about the aftermath after we watch this trailer. Ooh. Rachel. Mr. funding bodies chaos after. This has been requisitioned by the British government. This is yet. The hub. A Lewis and Logan inside. My was. My daughter, and I will stay out of your way until we moved to the camp Ford. If we stay on aiming live with them. Being out which of hatred as the surface during the war. Did you have hope for German victory? Did the bombing affect the house of you and your family? It's affected the health of my wife. She died in the Faisal. Say sorry. Tell me what I was looking into. This isn't how it was supposed to be all of us was supposed to be eastern cope job to do. To spy on ago. Nisha could do as para compliment. Yes. Of course. Something's changed the capital. That's when likes. This is what you wanted. Can you? The beginning. Got. Hey, listen, I say, man. This is this is the benefit and sometimes drawbacks of going into movie in not knowing anything about it at all. 'cause you walk in there. And that and truly I mean, sometimes we have to wash trailers, but sometimes that can enhance the film because one of the things I liked about this movie. It is right after World War Two after the germs have been defeated. And you have you have the British going in and actually trying to they have a hard job of trying to bring these Germans back into the back into society. And they don't they do not want to do that. Well, it's bring them back into society. But it's also a all right. Well, you lost. So this house and all these nice stuff. You got is our. Yeah. Yeah. So they taken all this stuff to as well, but we all have to try to live together. Yeah. See that's another one of the things I was gonna bring up because that's what was going to say. Like they have to come in and try to get these people back on track, which they don't wanna do you going to do that. When you take an stuff, right? And see you don't the moving is gradual man, you don't know. What's happening? You know, as a lot of tension between people in not just the British in the Germans. But also. When the movie opens up and you see Jason Clark who plays a general Lewis Morgan. He he goes to he gets off a train. He sees a woman that he's close with kinda, you know, obviously, I she's I mean, she's she's smiling occurred nightly she's smiling. Rachel is unnamed she's smiling, she's happy to see them. And then they get together. Like that awkward. I tend to date some I know. Yeah. Exactly. You think it's a kind of a range date. Yeah. Because you know, what it what it looks like date before it's been a while and not reuniting. Yes. Because what it looks like it looks like it looks like two people who had been talking online and major hit it off. Great. And then she finally CMS. She goes oh God down. I'm wouldn't expect. Oh, okay. You look different from picture beat up. Photo. But you know, you don't know what's happening, and they don't tell you. I'm not going to because this is something if you ever do decide to watch the movie is something have to find out on your own at the same time. You know, you you really do get to point in the movie whereas like. You look at things like you really do this because they're trying to help these people trying to help them get back to Bill back to civilization as much as they can. Because one thing I liked about the movie they bombed the fuck out people man, it looks like the apocalypse. It'll look like to look like they dropped nuke true. But you know, you see in Hamburg had you put the camera over back on London Nikolai. Yeah. Y'all has I so. Yeah. No, no, no, it's complicated. Because that's was cool about it. Because you think like so you flipped. The British coming in. And this kind of like, you see you see Jason Clark. Oh. Walk up any just kind of like, yeah. This is mine now notice gogo walk up and just take his shit like this like he took a guys mansion, right? He took a digital. He told that dude is like, yeah. Me, and my wife, we're gonna be fucking all over this house. Y'all got the basement. Because I'm being nice because. Yeah. 'cause I'm being nice. That's. That's permission to stay at his own place. That's complicated. Is that Jason Clark doesn't feel good about this? He's he's the one soldier who's not. All fuck. The germans. He's like look these people to I got a job to do. I'm trying to save lives disguise what his daughter. I'm not gonna kick him out to the camps. Just just to stay. But just you can live here. It's crazy because I'm wondering what is happening here. This man. Alexander Skarsgard got dressed up to get treated like a bitch right to get his house taken from him, and he's being cool about and then the wife comes up and she's treated him like shit, and she is oh, she's she has so completely selfish and a bitch to him and just everything to hers. I'm staying here. This is what we doing. You ain't tell me about this is he still here. Don't look at me. Get your creepy dot off my stuff. In saying so that he hears he's talking black. She's talking tourism at first. And then she's like you mean that he's actually staying. Be doing this woman. Dawn on. Hispasat? It's like how civil these people are being for something has been having a live taken from them. And and so, you know. This story is passing to me. That's what I loved about it. How do you readjust in his tense time after a war? And the other thing is that you have to remember feeling bad for these people these people on the street trying to find loved ones that you know, these people are poor they're still digging up bodies. But then you remember. Oh, yeah. The Germans, you know, and it's like. Oh, yeah. Y'all y'all started the? And you've said what you still the position of not the net was the most they're not all they weren't all with the Nazis. And then see that's what you have. The moves ask you to get over. What you've been the propaganda that you've been taught entertainment. It ain't Indiana Jones where every not every German are every German is evil. Not even every nice, but not every German is evil. You know, what they want? You to do is look at this and realize, yeah, no one likes to saying. But some of them truly were following orders. Otherwise, it would have been killed and some of them were truly trying to survive. And now the trying to adjust with these people who say, yeah, I was. I wouldn't one with the. But then how do you know? That's complicated enough right there all of that. Right. There is enough for movie on its own. And then sometime in the middle of it, the real story kicks. They had to bring in the love ship. Yeah. Headed to Sopa. It's a super interesting fascinating setting for what is a sappy. Soap opera. What's he got going? What it was about? That was some bullshit. Being like the motivations you. You can't root for anybody in this. It's funny because there's a movie where a weight I feel like I'm rooting for Jason Clark mode, anybody which never happens. I mean, it's hard to it's hard to really buy that guy in anything. It's like, I don't think he's terrible. And yet and everyone went to him. I never wanted to Karen nightly either. But this is this is that movie where if you if you will have to her I wanna know you this wrong, which really I felt bad for Jason Clark. In the film. You're right because he's the he's the one care to who just seems to be a real person. One seems to be trying to be a rational person everybody else is full of shit, man. I get I get Ellen Alexander Skarsgard. I getting because that's what I thought the whole time. He's like, oh, you wanna take my house? All right. I'm gonna take your I'm gonna take you'll bitch. You wanna play around? You think I'm just gonna roam around his house, and you leaving your wife by herself every night in my house. And I'm not gonna hit that ass you crazy. And I thought okay, that's cool. But still it was like, man. He was nice U2.. Yeah. He was he was super nice to him. And if scars if he's playing like he was just plotting to do it for revenge. I would get that. But it wasn't wasn't that. That's what it should have been. Yeah. That's what it should have been. But this you see I mean, this is this is kind of romantic movies shit that we stopped doing twenty years ago. Yes. Where two people see each other. And is suddenly there's a sudden kiss. And then later, they just left alone they stare, and they're all over each other in a flash that is true. Because there's no lead up to this hero. I hear people in audience going what shall think that was me? Because there was no lit up to that kiss whatsoever. That first kiss it was like where they had at that. And even when when they were when they were there are moments in the movie with the argument and the argon that way where it's like, okay. You know, just just shut up and fuck. All right. Just because I know this is going then I say, but this movie, oh, this is too smart for that. Yes. Yes. They're not going to do that. Yeah. They did. It is. Yeah. Doesn't help that. Wow. Australians cannot do. Good. British accents and zander's Skarsgard. Well, I guess I guess he's Norwegian perhaps, which is Germanic his German. Accent was terrible. Everybody's mixed up. Everybody chasing Clark. Did you know your you're British like every so often he will remember and throw a little accent in there? But not a whole lot year. And scars yards like German. But I'm I'm kinda learning English. Like, nah, man. No, no. Little bit of German is well, the funny thing is is that Jason Clark trying to do a British accent. And he's Australia. Right. Alex scars guard is trying to do German accent. He's doing British. A meanwhile care nine looking them. Computer? Hey, no by the nationality in here except Karen nightly. Yeah, she's looking at Skarsgard like why don't you just hired German? I would read you have gotten was his name the Juhan up Christoph Krista when you got Christoph waltz up in here in doing this, bent down and kissed him. Take my house. That was no way behind that. Romance. Once I it was all lead up to it. So phony is right there. But once once they get into it. This is the most vapid empty romance no-ball fights and cottages in the snow. Yeah. All this brew team Bush you've seen this. Yeah. This is. There's no there's no real feeling behind this. And it's funny because this is the heart of the story this romance. This this sweeping beautiful looking period piece that had a story a gripping interesting complicated story. I guess it was too hard for. Do you mean, I gotta write this out? How about we just just fucking about that? Come on. It's it's like the movie got too hard for the. You know, it's a love story now. So what are we? Well. That's that's all the research. I did. Yeah. Man. It was an really like Martin had had this been something where this would have been revenge. There would have been some sort of anger behind this, even if the relationship has been complicated. But it wasn't. No, it wasn't and later in the film when she sorta reveals her reason for why she did it alike. You've got to be kidding me. That is not enough hard. And yeah, yeah. Hey, you hate her. She is the most wishy-washy selfish, selfish substate whining. Why did as bitching this move just whining about everything? It's like, look, I know you heard, but that's it happened a long time ago. Plus, she's like, you know, this happened, and you wouldn't take off work to to be with me. He's like, I know because there's a war going on. And I'm trying to save people's lives. I do I do not be too hard. Because it was like that. But they gave reasons why he was doing what he's doing leaving out in a light that that would have had more impact at the movie Hammo impacting, it's mid serious. If this just been like, a readily Warfield something where you know, they didn't introduce any kind of complicated stories are notions. I history at all that would have been one thing. But they did you took a very complicated part of history that we need to examine something that not everybody is seeing. Yeah. And you've turned turned it into liquid romantic to try to make it the bridges of Madison County. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Get get out. Not none of these characters likable that can't even talk. Right. I just you know, as funny because the one character like it's not the one. But the the the first character who really dies a called it the minute. He was all screen. Oh, yeah. The minute. He was there as well. I wish I'd been there with you like. Yeah. If I say anymore. It'll be giving it away. Yeah. Ain't it. But there was a person there. They they the wrong age and saying the wrong thing. Live. Oh, you have a good future ahead of you. Ingle lose your virginity. Boy prostitute right now, can I tell you my favorite moment of the movie, we'll wasn't. So when Jason this comes to a head. We see that in a trailer. When Jason Clark finds out wasn't been going on. And he says her only go six days. Morning. Really haunting. Vibrators been invented yet. My man was cooling about it to go about it. He was cool. I got you. Because there was a moment. I thought he won't talk to everybody. I'll I'll sit down the horror movie with a watch too. This booby is bars. Get this low low low rental talking is a mobile it's funny because I'm thinking the same thing I came here prepared to give it a low rental. That's why Dumbo back up because I was all right. At least it wasn't this. But the more I keep thinking about it. Yeah. Man. It's kind of unforgivable it 'cause I was gonna give it credit for what it really did. Well, the beginning. But that was the beginning. Yeah. And they dropped that quick. And the way in the way just the way it just turned into a parody of romance movie. It really have to I'll tell you one of the things I liked in the movie, and I got I gotta find it right here. Because I thought you'd being the trailer floor wasn't name the-an floor theme. She played the daughter. She played the daughter, and she had my ass laugh because she because she felt the way like I say, okay, I know. You know, you a German in in you kind of sympathy. Sympathizer, the Nazis, I'm not crazy about you. But you you acting like you should when somebody take your house in this is the daughter right here. Because again, you wonder why she saw upset and moving unless they start earlier get piece together you let you realize why and Jason clock trying to be be nice to him. She's scared the shit here. Because he's like, I'm missing the bucks have you seen and she just stayed out of this. I don't I'm not crazy about you. But at least you acting reasonable right here. Right, right. I understand that motivation. People this is. Although if I was saying after that, I'd be like he'll man I thought this could work, but y'all got to go. I can't be staying up late at night sleep. My daughter slitting my throat hit me like a rabbit cat assigned. Fuck outta my house. So that's my nose my house, y'all get funny. It's how they made a big deal about how man it's just the two of state in his huge house. It's just so weird. Like, yeah. But before y'all got there, there was only three people there. Nobody needs to be in that house has too big for everyone looked at this ain't even know to do with that has that's why that's why they started fucking just like man, we got on his room. Like some cut away from it. You see the size of it. Yeah. Come on. This is this is this is just too much decadence right here. Yeah. I'll tell you. That's one of the things. Now. This is probably why is probably why we'll give it a low low rent. 'cause I mean 'cause I got mad when I saw that movie. Not not real mad. Damn why? Yeah. Had some I know you would beautiful. And then I mean because it had a lot going for it. It had the compelling story. It had the history that know a lot of people don't don't don't know or think about it had, you know, you talk about decadence it had a beautiful summer Takeuchi, even the destruction was gorgeous. Yeah. There's so much going on in the only reason why I recommend this as a low rental. I have known. Yeah. Yes. The worse things Rick all the reason why low rental, and that's a low rental y you just wait for it to come on TV. So you can laugh at this shit. What you see where they take our hope you catch at the beginning. So you can see where this just takes a major live off a cliff. This don't make you don't make no sense when they pull with this. It has lazy for adults to be doing this this lazy. Yeah. I'm serious with that kiss. Was it was there was the screener? As if I give. Yeah. I don't I don't know what else to do. I'm never actually kissed a girl. How does this? Wow. Man, right. The thesis papers. I'm out of college. Romance. School. I hate history. All right. No, it's it's it's a low rental, man. Like, I say it's just one for you to look at because some things I can't believe I couldn't believe they took this turn with this is like I have been one thing at the romance mint. Something it is empty is nothing between these characters. Nothing at all force that on us. I don't wanna hit his shit brenham not his back on. Yell too old to to to dig into this fantasy of like, yes. The two of us will be together. We'll run away. Yeah. I was gonna work what you said admits romances lazy. When the thing that draws people together is that an upset about some other things when they spend more than five hours together in the room. All of a sudden always love, man. No that is lazy as lazy. Let me stop. Talking about south out of this. Let me quit. So we don't have anything between symbol bullshit and low Remm. If you want to just pulls a matching. Okay, I'll give it a high some old bullshit giving them before. I guess. We'll take you go here. I mean, but the thing is I'm almost with you because you're right on the technical aspect of how it's filmed, and it's done very, well, it looks like a good movie, which I almost kind of hold it against it. Because it traps, you it you would you would look at the cast list. And you saw any of the trailer just looking at these shots you go. Like this looks like. Yeah. Yeah. And what a shock you in for actually the most enjoyable part of this movie is talking about it day after off. Oh, I'll talk about say you didn't do this. No, I got call you out on this. This is. Yeah, man. I it's again, it's confusing is confused, and you already had a good moving you decide to go that way. You go people going, let me get eve, but. Symbol hob with. Told me what I was looking into. 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Jason Clark: Challenge the way things are done. [Strategy] [Career Notes]

The CyberWire

06:06 min | 6 months ago

Jason Clark: Challenge the way things are done. [Strategy] [Career Notes]

"So welcome to the cyber wires career notes podcast brought to you by recorded future delivering advanced security intelligence to disrupt adversaries before they disrupt you. Hi i'm jason clark and i am a chief. Strategy officer and chief security officer grew up wanting to be a pilot in the air force. My lineage of four generations is all army and generals and wanted to be different. So i wanna join the airforce. And i got my pilot's license sixteen myself personally. I like to challenge the way things are done. I like to challenge. Why are we doing it. This way could be done better. We need to innovate this. We need that so while the military was one of the best choices. I've ever made him retire. Life learned so much from it After four years. I i just one hundred percent new was i needed to be out of government so that i could drive change in. It was encouraged the challenge. Your bosses it was encouraged to challenge thinking after that. My first job was with the new york times They had a compromise and they had lost a bunch of credit cards on from one of their business units. Which was the boston globe. And so times brought me and they had thirty five companies under them and and so they. The job was to build their first security program. I so and to get them. Pci compliance and so. That was kind of my first very very big raw. I was Was twenty six years old at the time. Believe it or not as a c- so of a of a fortune five hundred company. You should always be seeking jobs are actually not qualified for. I think that's how you grow if you know you could do the job. And you've got a half skills go forward and that was the case with the new york times. I you know. I was energetic. I had the military background. There wasn't a big pool of seaso's the higher from way back then like there is today and i was probably cheap compared to other people they might might have been looking for because this was a new york city. I made vision after getting my mba to jump to the business. I felt like. I'd maxed out the it side of of what i wanted to do but i took the it stuff with me and so you know that's a good example of what what i've turned this into took being a see so in a practitioner and being a technical expert to the business by running. Strategy I also on this chief marketing officer so i run marketing. I think i'm the i see so ever to be chief marketing officer now which is interesting but and then and then also i do run internal security stall so the sea so for nets does report to me and we we. We run everything. Believe it or not like marketing and security go very hand in hand for a cybersecurity company. The closer onto the problem. Chlor understand my my friends out there. That c sows and i noticed there were problems. The closer icy with the threats are doing and what the risks are in our own program at. let's go and protect our customers data. And then i translate that to our strategy purpose of every business is do acquire and retain profitable customers pure dot one sentences the reason why businesses and everybody in the company should be thinking about how helping acquire or home helping retain hama helping them be profitable whether customers and then security should be thinking about that how they driving that rape and so understanding you know when the say no of the business. When just guide and nudge the business is is I would say the number one most important lesson a. We don't have the right amount of diversity or people coming into the industry. And i want you know if the lot the next kind of big step of my career over the next twenty years that i wanted to be a lot of it focused on getting more diversity into security getting more kids from inner cities and getting more girls in the cyber security to realize because. I think they're what's going to help us make this better. We're lacking in that today. So that's actually why. I founded on security adviser alliance which is the largest so security nonprofit all focused on. We've engaged a million kids to get them into cyber security across the globe. You inspire and engage one kid. He changed somebody's life. This cyber wire career notes. Podcast is made possible by recorded. Future recorded future delivers the world's most technically advanced security intelligence to disrupt adversaries. empowered defenders and protect organizations. subscribe to record a futures. Weekly podcast inside security intelligence to go inside the world of cyber threat intelligence. Each week you'll hear stories from the trenches details on established and emerging adversaries and insights on the cybersecurity industry visit recorded future dot com slash. Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts to learn more.

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This Murder Went Viral

True Crime Recaps

16:42 min | 2 years ago

This Murder Went Viral

"Welcome to true crime recaps the only podcast bringing you all the crime in in half the time with double the you're not gonna believe this shit with your host the ones you've called if you had to hide body amy townsend when the killing stops. She's just getting started around seven seven a._m. On july fourteen discord an instagram users were unwillingly an audience to bianca devon's horrifying murder so through pictures pictures and selfish posted by bianca's friend brandon clark along with some fairly horrible captions we saw the aftermath out of what he did to her and then a few minutes later we saw selfish brandon took with his own throat partly slashed lading on on a tarp covering bianca's body made the murder weapon up black handled butcher knife as a key point to remember for later. It was lane near near his outstretched hand. Police say that he was still posting selfies as they were holding him at gunpoint trying to disarm him and welcome if we haven't met i'm amy newfound true crime recaps. It was pretty clear from the fact that he was trying to kill himself. At that moment. That brandon was ready to die for what he done. Even hours before this scene played laid out he went so far as to change his at yes juliette instagram bio to display his date of birth was ten six ninety seven and his date of death as that day seven fourteen nineteen and then of course the pictures he posted did went crazy viral and they stayed viral until instagram finally started taking down as many as they could find like hours later now everyone who seen them has freaking p._t._s._d. Thanks instagram. I can't get anyone and to explain why can't log in on my phone anymore but thank god you guys are on top of the important stuff and i'm talking about the boobs. I think we can all agree that what if her boobs were showing or her nipples. Sorry does pictures yeah they would have been taken down and hot second but before mr yes juliet photographer extraordinaire could toddle off to hell the utica a police showed up in the nicotine time probably because he'd actually called them himself and he was rushed to the hospital for emergency surgery three days brandon is feeling better and he doesn't seem to be in an apologetic mood anymore right now. He's in prison without bail after pleading. Get this not guilty to second degree murder interestingly interestingly the d._a. Office apparently offered him a slightly lighter sentence if he just plead guilty and save <unk> everyone a lot of time and hassle but he rejected their offer his next court appearance is scheduled for september sixteenth. It's now if he's convicted and in this day and age that's a big if but if he is convicted of second second degree murder he'll serve twenty five years to life. Why second degree you ask because first degree is premeditated even though there are so many weird things things about this story. That feels kind of premeditated but i'm not a lawyer. I'm no expert. I'm just person drinking bloody marys but it seems weird really quick though before we move on can we please talk about how he was able to even take selfies as he lay dying i find it hard to take pictures pictures and walk at the same time and really how do you plead guilty to something like this and he literally posted pictures of her dead body and a picture of himself saying that he'd killed her and then tried to kill himself and then he called nine one one saying he'd killed her and he was going to kill himself yourselves and then when the cops were there he was literally laying on her dead body saying that he'd done that and he was going to kill himself what but before i get too far into the events that led up to that horrible morning for those of us over thirty to truly understand this story. I think we need a quick vocab lesson because it's a brave new world out there kids and i do use urban dictionary to look up a lot of words so we're all gonna learn something new today. Ready okay discord. It's not just just disagreement between others anymore now. It's also a program where gamers can come together and chat. Hey fun. Fact a discord server is similar to a facebook group four chan that is an uncensored often horrifying online in community in cell so weird it means involuntary celibate. It's a term to describe men who are angry that women won't have sex with them in cell thoughts that is spelled t. h. O. t. and that stands for that ho oh over there orbiters that both you guys are kids are so creative refers to guys with unrequited. Pardon requested online crushes so orbiters unrequited online crushes eagles. That's a little harder. It's a general term about girls. Online who have sort of ak- similar look sort of anna may need scott meet sexy baby doll sort of vibe five it can be derogatory or complementary or ironic. I guess depending on who is saying it and who they're saying it to like how they're using it. In a sentence hashed that is a digital fingerprint that social networks used to prevent copies of offensive offensive content from being re uploaded as in bianca devon's murder pictures have been hashed from facebook and instagram l._n._m. <hes> that's this weird app that the kids used to reply or ask questions through their social media. It's supposed to be anonymous but your profile name is right right there so i don't know by romantic a sexual someone who is attracted to two genders not necessarily male and female a person who identifies this way is usually not necessarily interested in having sex but may do it just to please their partner be married. Oh you also need some quick facts about bianca brandon. She was seventeen. She's living in utica with her parents. He is twenty twenty one with the bridgeport new york which that's about an hour away from utica they met on instagram course but they knew each other in real life for a couple of months before this there is so much controversy about the exact nature of their relationship. It seems mm seems pretty obvious that he was way more to her than she wasn't a ham in fact there's a comment from her identifying n._f._l. In as bisexual on italian questionnaire shortly before she was murdered but other sources close to her i would assume say say that she was actually by romantic a sexual but often god whatever this is making my head hurt. Let's just say that whatever whatever the actual relationship was between them hit met her parents and he was with her on the night leading up to all of this. This is still with me. Are you shaking your head you will be i told you you needed an adult beverage so we have like a fairly detailed picture of what happened. The night leading up to this early morning murder thanks to the police investigation and among other media rolling stone dotcoms interview with a girl named shells sounds like a movie or a booker's something anyway. She says she was a friend of bianca's underscored so according to chills and you know those close to the investigation brandon and bianca drove to an all ages club in queens together as important point because a lot of people are saying that she she went and he stalked her <unk> found her there but that's not what happened. They did drive together to this. Club called the trans pecos. They were there to see this nicole l. dollars ganger show just so you know that's about a four four and a half hour drive from utica may got to that club about seven thirty and met up with with another guy that brandon new. I don't know if bianca already knew him or not. There may have been some smoking of cannabis by one one or all of the people in the story so far no judgment but at some point between when they got there at seven thirty and when they left around tan dan bianca kissed another guy this made brandon show mad. We know that because bianca bianca was sending direct messages about it to yet another friend of hers on discord the so busy girl says just a quick public service announcement aspen hair p._s._a. Smoking weed and drinking. If that's what was happening is a huge don't mean combining. Those two can lead due to a lot of aggression me. I'm not saying that that's caused. What happened of course just some friendly drug advice to take with you so sometime between the time. They got back she utica and remember. It's about a four hour drive. Maybe five hours and who knows if they it stopped anywhere so between the time they got back and seven a m it all the time brandon started posting those gruesome pictures the argument meant about the status of their relationship like defining the relationship got way out of control jisr total understatement now this i think is a really good place to include a very interesting factoid about brandon's since childhood. Let's just say this whole scene between him and bianca. It would have felt very familiar to him. Just nine years ago bread brendan's father jason clark held his wife hostage yeah brandon's mother for ten hours threatening to slit her throat and kill himself with get this a black handled butcher knife told you that was a key factor later why well because and tell i mean. This doesn't sound familiar. He thought she was cheating on him unlike his son the swat team was able to take jason clark down before he killed her butt or himself obviously but the whole thing is just it's way too identical to be a coincidence right. Tell me in the comments if you agree don't don't you think that this prompted something or messed him up in some way he would have been twelve at the time. I'm sure it was insanely traumatic for him of course if you were to ask jason clark he tell you what he told the media that brandon was raised right in a supportive family but but there was some dysfunction. What does this guy moonlight is. Donald trump speechwriter talk about glossing austin over the bad stuff. I mean come on and while we're on the subject of glossing over bad seth. I think it's worth noting in that. This murder isn't just thought provoking because of the social media this murder went viral aspect of it although that is certainly worthy of conversations -tations and the new guidelines that it's been sparking between bianca's family and legislators with instagram putting in new rules but that's all good but the interesting thing is we don't really as viewers visitors strangers get to see the graphic nick in result that dating violence and this pervasive toxic masculinity vibe that like permeating our culture right now literally lee. We don't usually get to see that delivered into our social. Media feed guys are afraid of rejection. Well most girls are afraid of what can happen if and when they reject the wrong guy and by posting every step of that murder brandon literally shoved the proof of what can happen when a guy needs to feel dominated yeah he laid it out in front of our collective faces in bianca wasn't some major social media star before she died. She had a few thousand followers. I mean after her death. That's when she gained aimed more than a hundred thousand she wasn't murdered by a jealous anonymous person in cell or an orbiter in this wasn't a celebrity murder where we can all sort of privately sit back and tell ourselves that when you put yourself out there that things can happen i mean although of course that's not not true but bianca was killed by someone she knew in real life someone that wanted to exert control over over her over her and what she did and she resisted that control and he killed her for it. Lori andrews very very smart woman who is also a law professor at the illinois institute of technology and the author of i know who you are and i saw what you did. Social networks works in the death of privacy long title but very aptly named. She said it best in u._s._a. Today i think there is an especially especially intense thing going on against women. Men are fighting for their maleness. They are fighting for other men and they are committing these acts and they're getting a lot of pats on the back for it. Yes girl exactly what i've been thinking except you know much smarter. Let me know if you agree or disagree with me but to me that aspect of it is what makes the bianca devon's murder case even more horrifying and yeah fascinating r. I p bianca. That's it for me. Thanks for coming tyring. Should we make this like a regular thing. Yeah hit subscribe and the belts be reminded until then stay safe and in what we know. We have a lot of murders to solve. Thanks for taking thirty minutes to catch up with true crime recounts. If you like to show please show your support with five stars a written review. Let's keep the conversation going. Join us on the socials at true in prime recaps and while you're feeling chatty. Don't forget to tell your friends to listen to true crime recaps see you next thursday.

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Episode #285  Serenity

The Flop House Podcast

2:04:48 hr | 2 years ago

Episode #285 Serenity

"On this episode. We discuss serenity based on the hit show firefly. No, not that one. Oh, what is what did we watch? Hello and welcome to the flop house. I'm Dan McCoy. Oh, hey, Dan McCoy. I'm Steuer Wellington is Elliott Kaelin, and I'm joined by a very special guest our friend and everyone else's friend, even though she's never been on the show before Jenny Jaffe. Everybody guys, Jenny Jaffe for people aren't familiar from the many podcast appearances. She's made another podcast. Yes, is a comedy guru. I guess. Really, like they call like an institution in the world of comedy. Yeah. No, I'm very old. I have to ask a girl who to whom. Yeah. That comedy school. Right do. Yeah, I have. It's it's, I mean it's out of the back of my house. It's like Muslim my dog. But like he for sure, it's called back house dog school for comedy. Oh, you have a house going to brag on the pot. Los Angeles is a magical place. Yeah. You can buy houses there. It's amazing Jenny. I think we I think we I got to know you through the Star Wars minute podcast. Yeah. I think it's funny. I think we were like legitimately fans of each other's podcast appearances because I have a flopper for like since the flop house started. I'm sorry. I appreciate that. It's no it's not like a crossover episode for me in my own in my own personal life. Cool. Yeah. But I yeah, I was like Star Wars minute in the night did like an episode with Dan Stewart in the night wrote of you. And then. Wrote a thing for me for president for people to. Yeah. So it's and Jenny. And I've been working together on a project that we hope to announce some day eight television project. So, but she's here to talk to us about what movie Dan, or what do we do on this podcast? Dan? This is podcast. We watch it bad movie, and we talk about it, and I don't want to get my hands. But why do we watch this movie for the fuck? Oh, yeah. I mean this is. Is about a war veteran who is? Trapped on a boat called serenity. Scary feeling. So I joke. But what about this joke? Joss Weeden made it. Oh man. Oh boy. Good stuff. Well, I never watched firefly's. So that's as much as I know about about my plans, Randy. So this, so damned we, there's this movie called serenity came out. This might be. We don't usually need to explain that part of movies, so anyway, actors got in front of cameras, and they said these lines, and then they edit it together into a movie, and then they released it, but when they released it they barely advertised the movie. If they didn't want people to see this movie. And the amazing thing is that Matthew mcconaughey, and Anne Hathaway the stars of this movie. I have a question is it because the movie was in fact too hot for TV. That's exactly. Yup. The only sell they only sell it through mail. Order on a TV commercial late at night. I remember news at the time saying that, that stars, the movie were upset that the movie was not getting it the promotion. They thought it was they had been promised it would get. And the reason it didn't get promotion, it was supposed to get as because test audiences disliked, the movie so much to bury it. I remember like I actually saw the trailer for this, because I'm the kind of person who sits around watching budget trailers, on the computer that Dan is, if we did during during work hours. And Dan's work hours are mainly spent tweeting whatever comes into his head. Does he goes along? Like everyone's Twitter is not whatever your head, not carefully, curated jokes. Exactly dance Twitter presence. I think it's been great so far. Wow. That's a very hot take. Bad guess alert, bad, guess alert. No. I appreciate the support for once bullying. What was I saying? Oh, I saw. It's at home. Watching trailers on your computer in your underpants. Yes. And. Thanks for the improv assist. I found the trailer kind of intriguing, and like big stars, and all the I'm just like okay baby L take a look at that when it comes out and. You win over you copied the link to coming, soon dot net. With the cash interesting. Dot. My mother lives. The country away. Making it serenity. I mean I don't know. Maybe she's into video games shit. Spoiler alert. Yeah. But the, the point is. Spoiler still. But the point is, Dan, you saw it, and you said, I can't wait to see this movie. This is going to say that I was interested in, then I had no idea that the movie had come and gone theaters when it finally arrived. So speaking of moms and serenity there is no movie that I feel like I received as much advance warning from people. Oh, this is going to be a flop house movie as this, and my mom who she just follows any Hathaway on Google probably Hathaway. 'cause Anne Hathaway, you're probably familiar. Yes. Went to school into my high school year behind me only comes up on the flop house, all the time Janney. Okay. So we. Date, you have a toured history? Used to used to date best friends, still blood brothers the sheets any. So my mom's still says, like, oh, any has a new movie out and stuff like that. And but I never really knew her the so she's like she's like, did you see this movie? He's in use. Sounds like you should do this on the flop house and was sending me like my mom is never recommended a movie for the fought has before this is amazing. But she didn't even win a contest or anything like mom. You gotta, you gotta win a poorly defined. Tell us what's going to be on the show, but Jenny you when I, I mentioned this movie, and you were chomping at the bit. Whereas Dan would say because he's a pendant champing at the. You were like a gotta talk about this movie you love it. So much was well, so I saw in theatres having also, like I think I just read some article that was like this is one of the most bizarre movies I've ever seen theaters. And it was great. I'm going, so I took my friend Casey, and we went to there was only showing either three pm or eleven pm in Burbank. So we went and like eleven pm, and it was really clear that half the audience were sort of hipster jerks like us who really wanted to laugh at a bad movie, and the other half where people are like boats and stars. Let's see what this is about. Snow. The saltwater coming off their Tommy. I haven't been this excited about a movie since that one with Robert Redford, where it's just him on a boat, the whole movie. Old man of the gun, which was about him being old man. There is also good. Spoiler alert. But so all his law. That's the name of it. All is lost. Otherwise, known as Robert Redford gets hit in the face with water for an hour and a half. And nobody says anything Genesee went to see it the movie, half the audience just didn't know what they were in store for and the it was the most like, amazing communal theater going experience I've ever had. It was like truly we all were so unified by the end like the people who were there for something good. We're like cheering and laughing and like the it was became this interactive experience. And then we all like outset right right outside the theater, just all met up to talk about it and make sure we'd all seen what we thought we'd see. You're still front, you still keep in touch with all the people are all Instagram friends. Eight did immediately text Elliott as many people did. And then I think I did Jordan Jesse go, like two days later and Jordan Morris. And I were talking, we tweet talked a lot about if anyone's a fan of Jordan, Jesse go or not jen's, great episode dinkiest and watch it. There's some really funny stuff in their adult watch it. Dead. Okay. So, so set your tvos or whatever the case, there's a rerun. It was it was I was really excited to watch, and then Jordan gave me a poster of serenity for my birthday. Oh super nice. Is the poster is that the official poster the when the us a thumbnail on Amazon with, like faces split by like, I don't know, like a bloody bloody boat waker. Is leaving blood in its wake it's causing a rift between Matthew mcconaughey, and Hathaway who has different hair on the poster than she does in the movie. I think 'cause they realized the blonde hair was a mistake late. They, they, they. Well, they were trying. But Dan, what were they trying? Can you Dan? I here's my challenge on the, the serenity challenge. Hold serenity in your mouth for an entire episode of the. Spitting out by telling us what happens in serenity. All right. So the movie opens underwater. Zooms out over the water toward a boat while the music swells as if a boat in the ocean is the most honest. Dan? Dan, how did we get to that water? It's isn't it through a child? Why don't we zoom in to find the water, but you're right like right off the bat that boat is in the water. And the music is like doto doto, Donald. And I was like, what did I enter the middle of the move. Yeah. And just a correction, most movies began underwater, it isn't until they start selling tickets that they make their money. Dumbest joke. You know, whatever. Stewart was doing whatever. Family. Should just real. So, Dan, we're on the water and who's on this boat. What is this boat, both? Oh, there's four guys on this boat to them aren't important. You won't see them again in the movie there too drunk guys who've chartered a boat. And then the caps of the boat is our pound math Mocatta. Hey. And he's got a second mate, played by John on haunt sue. Is that the correct pronunciation of it gets close? I mean, it's, it's close enough that will give you partial credit. How would you say, I don't know I'd have to go. All right. It's pronounced. It's pronounced David Hanson. Wow. So these guys. What's Matthew mcconaughey is characters name. Do you remember I may just say that his? He's unlikely name of Baker dill. The name of like a guy who puts herbs and his lows. I. Right off the bat. I do want to say. This is the best Mocatta has ever looked in my opinion. And I watched it with female friends now and we've both agreed. This is a big waste of the best is arms of ever been angels in the outfield. Matthew mcconaughey. I like grizzled bakana, hey, the beach bomb like he's supposed to be like a wasted kind of like not beach bum. Exactly. But, like, yeah. Like always in the sun like like throwing his life way with rum and things like that. But it looks amazing. He looked so good. It's, it's, it's, it's almost wrong for this character. He should have a big belly at this point. Yeah. Like a grizzly beard. But instead, he's just got like he's in great shape. He's just but all the time, frequently nude in the movie. I mean he's kind of like why just imagine, I'm a I'm a young boy. He's kind of like, what I would imagine my hot dad would look. And you would frequently be imagining you're hot dad's. But if you're young boy he also. He also. As he would be the kind of dad who just walks around no clothes on all the time. One of those naked families have friends over. Really? No, dad. My walk through with his bud hanging out now. Guys, it could have been a product of the TV. I was watching it on. But when when he strips down, it looks like he is a noticeable like whale tail tan line on his, but it looks like he's clearly wears g-string your thoughts. I mean I can't I couldn't sell see that on TV. I can't speak to the undergarment preferences of maybe. Maybe maybe I need to change my TV. On that whale tail setting. Right. But you're looking run motion smoothing and tailing off. They set that at the factory because old people don't know what things are supposed to look like on their TV's. No, I'm gonna get angry Email from Todd vizier on this one. He's gonna be like I told you turn off all your filters, all of them all the settings Dan. Okay. So they're out on that boat. What are they doing out there? What does he do? What's his obsession? If you have one his thing is a charter boat, captain, for mostly, I soon, rich assholes, who want to go big fish fishing. There's a way of saying. Like hunting for Marlins. Yeah. Exactly. Sport fishing. Okay. So he's. Sustenance fishing. They're not gonna eat the fish afterwards. Yeah. I mean, sometimes you do you do tune it, but, like do you eat, you can eat those guys they're gonna they're gonna catch that big tuna, and they're gonna lack ups, they can put it up over the over the couch and their den scrape out the insides, and eat them first, and then like stuff it or something. I mean I could be wrong. It seems. What? I don't I don't I don't know about that. Are you saying the fish that are on the walls in bars and whatever and sing it, you, they all have guns. The Billy vest. Toronto elements. That was once a live fish before stuff. It's it's like the death of fishes. It's just a it's a it's a cyborg now. So, Dan, so there's he's he takes a lot for sport fishing. But to how this trip go with these two drunk is well, he catches his his dream fish is his bet Noir, fish. He and they're on. What's the name of this famous, too, and other always chasing, but Justice, and he's so so captain Ahab over this tuna that he will not allow these sport fishermen to take over. He's like getting the back and threatens them with a knife. And he, we are introduced idea that Matthew mcconnahey is a little crazy, particularly when it comes to this fish, and in his pursuit of Justice is what you're it's got this the lines. He's got this Fisher the line. He thinks it's all out of fight. He gets John Hahn, sue over to. You know, he's got a big hook. It's gonna hook that thing in and it escapes and met him basically breaks down and Wales at the heavens. Yeah. Does a lot of that in this episode in this movie. He's yelling at the sky also. Because he's so obsessed with this. Tune of these guys don't pay. And he's like we introduced in these scenes to, to important things, but math McConnell. Hey, he wants us to in a and he's so obsessed with two. He doesn't have any money numb, and so what does he do next? Is that when it goes Diane lane? That's what we see we see that guy in the business suit on the beach. Oh, yeah. There's this nerdy business suit guy. He's clearly played a nerd little. Serious-minded fellow in glasses to wait out into the into the water in his suit, for reasons we do not understand as of yet, it's a real. Understand. That aspect of it. Why was he just going out in his full suit into the water is always trying to get to Matthew mcconaughey or Baker dill should say, the suited man is trying to get bigger does attention but he's always just like a few seconds too late. Like as everytime, Baker does boat is leaving the dock this guy runs up like Baker deal Baker Dell. Yeah. When we learned the identity of this, man, we realize wait a minute, that doesn't make any sense late showing up to. Yeah. Wind the tape when I made the Edward 'nigma joke. Can you change it to clock king, because I think it's more. Yeah, it, it just keeps happening in a way that, like halfway through the movie. I say TV just go to his house, and, and the next scene. He just goes to his house, I think house is being charitable, but we can go on. He lives in a giant ship in create like Wally. Stuff. So I think this is speaking of houses he goes to someone's house. Well, so I believe this is the point which he gets into manufacturers fight with his trustees second mate, because he's worried about the fact that he basically pay him anymore, or is that a little bit? I first Bakersville goes to his only source for reliable money in these troubled economic times, Diane lane, a character in this movie that does not pay off in anyone. I mean, she pays off by giving him money. Talk her cat a whole bunch yet. It's weird keeps I met her cat. And I'm like I can't get it. That's that's pets juvenile then she referred. She'll be watching him to her blinds, because her only role in the movie is to have sex with McConnell hate, and then watch him through Venetian blinds, Z, apparently, her window looks out on every part of the island they lives in there because no matter where he is. She can see through her. Blinds says, like there's my kitty there's my cat. I'm like, wait, so Matthew. Mcconaughey was the cat and understand. I thought she was referring to her giants. Also, there is also a literal cat. But I think that when you see a real cat. Yeah. Because my Honey pick some of bins just like outta worriers to. Well, that wasn't it? That was a great man, actually. All right. All right. We should say something about the setting of this movie, Dan. So it set where. This movie at least to begin, you know, like not to spoil too much about. But, you know, there's a big twist coming, but so at the beginning of this movie, I do want to this, what I really just quickly wanted to say what Diane lands first line is I'm so sorry, I had to pull it up. We meet them in, in media res- while they're doing it. I written it down. I just had looked up in its. I'm increasingly fond of the way you say Hello. Just had to say that real quick. Sorry about that. No, it's fine. I believe what I was saying that, like, just start this movie comes off as a classic slice of sun. Drenched noir. Sweaty warr? Yeah, yeah. This is gonna be at. Yeah. Down south. Although we later learn, we don't know where Plymouth is tale of sweat, and sex, and betrayal, and reminds me of Dan of so many black velvet on the jukebox. Yeah. This I wanted to do some new character that I've been thinking about ever since I saw this movie. This is. This is a character of invented called crawdads. Workshop with us. This character for review. Okay. And then we can just send us in as my SNL audition tape. That'd be fantastic. Well, well, it's me crawdads I grew up in Louisiana by you. But now, Mr. bourbon dad in youth, I wrestle Gators drive a Kia. That's pretty much all. Hold on. So the fact that he is a daddy. So you're saying there's something called a craw. He's a dad. It's a play on the word. Crown exactly. Oh, yes, please. No growing up from times. He get so bad. You couldn't even blink. Dow. To the soccer games. Suburban dad. Because he doesn't. Let's move on. I was born in a shack in the by. Moved to Connecticut for the school district. So it's a suburban dead. Now you guys can't see it, but Elliott, it's like his whole physique change. Like he's melted into this character. This really good character imagine if you can imagine Dr John. Musical dome. I basically Dr teeth your teeth and the electric mayhem. He's not he's not a puppet, though, right? Yes. That's, that's pretty much the character. Yeah, I don't know. I can go on if you want. Looking for one more? Just bomb in my fan vote so we can get over that PTA meeting. Per thing anyway, this care to crawdads, daddy, who is inspired this movie. Didn't know there's a lot of fan votes in Connecticut. I mean, if it's it's it's toll on his car on the Kia Sportage that I mentioned earlier, still it doesn't sound safe. I think you're supposed to ride in those if it's on, on a flatbed on attached to your Kia. But that's okay. No. I mean again Crotty plays by his own rules. Growing up. Well, did you play by your own? Rules, also have to follow the homeowners association guidelines, and that's why I can't have a basketball hoop in the driveway. That's like your daddy. So it's a go to return to the movie for a moment at least. So, you know, kinda hey now the, the money to pay like, you know, be there tomorrow. We're going to go out again. And Chinatown sues like were. Or do we have anyone, you know, scheduled to go out and pay us for this, and he's like, no, we're just going to go at risk for the real quick, Dan? So the thing I like about crawdads. It's a real fish out of water. I mean, you don't expect a guy who comes, you know, he grew up in a swamp. Wrestling with people, you don't expect him to have to worry about, like his, his house taxes property taxes, you know. By blue heaven worries. Is this universal character of the middle class suburban dead? Everyone understands it. Okay. Into the movie, so they have no luck catching fish. And this means macabre, hey, is not made any money that day. And so this is when that conversation, I, I was remembering earlier happen where he does I in the hendersons. Same. Same. Yeah. Basically doesn't like to go on kit. I don't like you anymore. He wants to get a job with real money because he can no longer afford to pay him if he could ever pay him the job was assistant to an obsessed man, hunting out for tuna, because it reminds him of his long lost son in some way. They don't get to these. I just occurred in case, I don't get to these explicitly later on into the show because they're kind of sprinkled throughout rather than like being major plot points. Would say that sprang. Okay. So he'd say sprinkled trout to sprinkled trout out. Understands two things. I wanna say about Plymouth is you learn early and often that everyone knows everything about each other because there's a lot of gossip going on. And they love telling Baker, dill what's going on in his life. They'll be like he'll be at the bar and be like Baker, even spending, too much time, going after that fish, her a fight with Duke. Why don't you want to work on your boat anymore? It's like why are you telling me what happened in my life? I don't understand. So that's one thing. That's true. And another thing is true is when he drives around in his truck, there's a rate, there's like one radio station and the guy the DJ's his stuff. Seems suspiciously tailored specifically to Baker. You said the same thing about your relationship with Don Imus. Told me to kill. There's the guy on the radio is always like, beautiful day out here, but the time is, well, you don't care. What time it is? Just go out and get that fish. You just want that fish. And it is like in the future. We're unlike he's listening to a podcast that someone makes just for him like media has become so fragmented that it's literally a Baker deal specific radio show. These listening, the reasons are made clear later in the movie, but early on, like what the fuck is radio station may so my friend who was watching it with yesterday pointed out that some of what is happening this movie might be forgivable. If it was a play because everybody's constantly talking in this way that feels so weird for the Andrea. People are talking at Baker dill. They're talking about other people who aren't there, and it's like you just saw this happen. If it was all happening in this one setting kind of makes sense and the performances might be a little more forgivable. I'm not saying it's a Broadway play. But I'm saying if you saw the long. Yeah. Leader. Yeah, this is like a blackbox theater, and they like have like, people with, like a big blue sheet the water. This dream ballet with the tuna. Jenny. You have to produce my God. Honestly, I would be honored. I would love to produce serenity and it's not a musical. It's just a straight drama with the drape way. Every every good play circa, nineteen fifty three dream valet at some. Absolutely. I love that death of assails Mundri ballet, wonderful when he dreams about selling things. Yeah. He was about guiding. Have you seen it? I've seen it four times. Great, chris. Okay. Hey, I'm for another episode of famous people Elliott saw onstage death of a salesman to Broadway. Productions one. Of course, hind Dennehy amazing and one with with himself. The guy from ethics is what I'm saying, Brian Denham ethics is frying any and the other with what's it with a view Sir Brian? If you say Brian Brown, I'm gonna lose my shit with with the other Philip Seymour Hoffman, and they're both great played the character in very different ways. Just goes to show you, when it's that good text. There's a lot of different room for interpretation. Studio. Well, I just Michael Shannon in a play and his weighing as part of that so cool. This frankly joining the clear Delun. Oh, okay. It was a it was good. What was the context of you seeing Michael Shannon naked change? I. No, both. I think both of the acts open with the two leads having sex and a lot of the beginning of it was just played in the nude and do you think do you think the script features the moment where he pin wheels around? I think that was added in later production. Okay. But, but by now it's become basically tax exactly. So, before I figured out the twist or actually does not sure I think everybody kind of figures. They don't dole it out as well. They, they do this movie is pretty pretty foreshadowed. Yeah, they foreshadowed a lot. But the we're talking about the, the setting keping like wear is this island watch us with my wife and she was like, where's the supposed to be? And so we were like I was looking up Plymouth island online to see if it was a real place. It is not a real play spoiler alert if anyone wants to go live the Baker lifestyle and following his but, but yeah, the movie it, it's like, and I wasn't sure if the movie wanted us to be asking that question or if it was just too bad at covering its tracks, guys. What do you think? Which question is the movie does the movie want us to be wondering where Plymouth island is or is that because they're not doing a good job of of misleading us. Look, I think I speak for motive I think, for most Americans understanding of geography, whereas like yeah, sure there's a point with somewhere. I wasn't like, oh, this is a clue. I that was like the first thing I did was Google Plymouth island question, Mark and yeah, I, I thought was like, oh, it's like a off the Florida Keys somewhere, and then it was like, okay, maybe it's like French Caribbean. And it just it just kind of becomes this weird mishmash of things. Then, like, okay. Wow. There's this very aggressive radio. DJ. Where we are gold most aggressive. So I don't quite remember, like everything's jumbled up at this point. The next thing was when our fem, fatale enters, the film, can you explain that early? Okay. Is Anne Hathaway with a bad blonde. I assume wig. And she is playing at least you think at the at the start, she is playing the fem fatale of the movie and, and I say playing advisedly because it feels like Anne Hathaway is like playing other movies that which I'm not a bad thing considering that like this movie is really steeped in other movies. But if it feels and it plays into the twist later that she is more of a character than a full person, although there's things about one is that she is supposed to be his ex wife and they were supposed to gone to school together. And she is fifteen years younger than before. When I knew this the line about her saying that she was finally old that was so upset because it must have mean he was in his thirties at the time when she was eighteen I do wanna say quickly this movie. Hates women so much. Oh, yeah. It's, it's, it's. So agree, just the way that they treat in Hathaway and Diane lane, and she is so odd so much, obviously, younger math Makoni that when I didn't know what this is about. But I just knew it at a twist. I was like, oh, I bet they fall in love and it turns out, she's his daughter. That was my guess of cool thought it was old boy, those old. With the hammer, but, and then I looked up, and I looked up and apparently supposed to play that role originally, which makes a lot more sense, age wise. But instead, they cast Anne Hathaway. And this is the time at, yeah. Back at school. The two of us. Oh, I went to the reunion. And it's like so was he held back so many? I mean he's this character from days to confuse redes- hanging around high school, the time, even older like what's going on here, there reunion happen that they were the only two people not there, what a weird high school? Everyone went the Elliott, according to Bs trivia, Houma. Thurman was originally supposed to play the Diane lane character. No and Hathaway care, and it really doesn't make sense to me. Okay. Never mind, I would have been good as the Anne Hathaway character. She might have even been better will the weird sound apparently Estill Getty was supposed to play. And then it would have been like wait, but isn't she much older than him? But, you know, it happens these Hollywood casting things go around the other way. Sometimes and, and what do we learn about Anne Hathaway? Dan, what are we learned about, basically we learn? She's his ex wife. They had a kid together, and she is not like the guy that she a sensitive presumably left him for. Is this gotten this like horrible characters just gotten worse over the I think he's kind of shades of gray but we'll get this gangster. You're. Belt, you know. This character even. Have you walking razor's edge Stewart? And we also we learn about their son that she mentioned. He has a talent for computers, so Telo their son. Patrick does machines. Thanks for explain it. So I can understand it Stewart terms, which usually involves, either ninja turtles or tiny miniature people that you paint. They're made at all. Yeah. Yeah. So when you say playing you're, you're talking about an actor performing and not the way somebody play video game for instance. He's talking about the way people play war hammer. This movie's really about. People moving around on a board and occasionally I get angry and throw my dicey through. And so what's, what, what's the deal she tries to make with do deal. Like, hey, let's get out of this bar need to talk to you privately and they go to his boat. And he's hooking up some, some bait while she's telling him. Look, my husband, my new husband is beating me. He's terrorizing our son presumably beating him to like, and I want you to take him out. I've arranged well through series. Very unlikely things I say she finds hit the unwinable ticket a stand. She unfirable guy like Facebook where she makes connections with some old high school POWs, who just like one of them happen to go on a charter boat and they see him in the background. It's also this movie could be taking place anytime in the past hundred years until engines Facebook, and I was like, wait, hold on a second. Let this is a world would like cell phones and stuff like, hold on. Yeah. So that's unlikely event number one unlikely number two, what she found out. Where was she was able to specifically convince her abusive husband to go to the specific charter boat and get chartered out and get some fish? I mean first off, we got a hand to this prop work McConnell Hayes doing shopping up that fish. It's like it's like when what who is it Charlotte? Or is it Miranda? I can't remember always nightline's or or like I remember there was like SVU episode. I saw where they, they were talking to a male stripper. And he was like hanging up, his g strings on a little drying rack kitchen, awesome. Like you can stop doing that and talk to these people. You don't have to do that, while while they're there movie does, like an insane job, some movies, I think jumped to murder in a way where you're like, wow. That seems like he coulda done a bunch of other things in the interim, or that doesn't seem justified this movie like goes out of its way to justify the murder way too much. They're like, here's ten million dollars. Do it like, okay gr-. Honestly, it should be like, hey. He's beating me in our son. Great Dino like this. Is that that's the justification in movie like Dublin Dimity, like which there with, with which is like the urge text for this kind of stuff? Yeah. It's like I. I don't like my husband. He's ridge kill him will make this money off the insurance payment. And so it's like a real moral thing. It's like, oh, I is it worth at, I'm in this woman has beguiled me. I want her. But is it worth selling my soul basically? But when it's like, here's ten million dollars in the man you're gonna kill is the worst persons Hitler. Like, what, what a moral test, like, what it's, it's, so it's so waited in the audience being like Disney hill on the shoulders of a character who has threatened guys with a knife over official ready. But way, handles that fish. Like you're saying, Stu, like no wonder Jiro dreams of sushi when Matthew mcconaughey cutting it up with that Bod. I think it's like a Quincy Quance like how coined is always doing something like kinda tough and like a little bit scary and weird. He's like it's just really funny because it's like weights. You took someone on a boat. You're Bournemouth fish. Are you gonna cook it right now? Like, what are you? Is this the right time to be to be cleaning? He's got. Can put on his wall. That's how it works. Put all the machines into make big money. Exactly. He has baiting the hooks just like she is putting out some bait for him. I should clarify this. Because I don't think we've said it explicitly yet, like what Anne Hathaway wants is him to take her husband. I Don charter boat and push them off and leave him for the shark Steed. Is so much fun with playing with the word hooks at one point. He's like a Hooker who can't get a hook. Like you're a Hooker and he goes. Yeah. Hook grew. Can't afford hooks. And it's like you did it when you square the circle boys, so out of this conversation. Matthew mcconaughey is like, Nope. I'm not gonna just kill a dude. I'm not gonna take him out on the boat. You're barking up the wrong tree. And I believe this is when he goes back to, but just to clarify. He's a man. Not a tree. Okay. I know he's pretty wouldn't. So, Dan, is this. When are we going to skip to the next morning when takes his new dip in the in the in the in the ocean? Yeah. He goes out fishing. He comes home and Diane lane. Who's been peering out the window at him talking to Anne Hathaway jealous over, whoever evil Queen from Snow White window that shows her all the Plymouth that when she asks it to, so she sees the two of them together, and then she shows up at mccown his shack, let's call it. It's a shipping container. And she's, you know, real cash sort of super super cash, just like so who's, you know, there's a pretty lady is so that pretty lady, what's going on. And magic kind a doesn't want to talk about that. And his solution is to say he's gotta take a shower and he's strips down. And you see, but, and I gotta say the way for the ladies the way he's jiggling around. You really should also sees Pena's clearly penis as bundled up. So it won't. Bullet about line at one point. I don't know. I mean. Does probably wearing a modesty pouch, that's pretty standard. Like a modesty could contain economy. It's modesty mouse. He they needed. They needed to an entire mouse. Maybe not actually mice are pretty small. Now, think about it. He clift. And while he's hers so much that he cliff dives feet first into the water. Right. So like his. Into the ocean and balls or so calloused from do this every day. I mean, LA you prefer. She go belly. I the cliff I'm not sure what you're jumping off the cliff with no clothes on. But you're right Stewart he must be the first time he did this, it must have hurt so much, but he's like, if I do this every day for years, eventually, it won't even bother me because when he hits the water, the look on his face is like like you just walked through a puddle like it's amazing. He so tough, so his during his nude swimming as a vision of his son in the water, which is like, really, it's really creepy. They do like nirvana cover at each other. Oh, yeah. You're right. That's exactly what's going on. And it's Dan, he his son. They seem to have some kind of psychic connection, right? Because then he wakes up at like this was like a reality edging into a dream sequence. And he wakes up from this crazy underwater dream, and there's like water next to him on the table. He's like, you know, mystified and amazed by this water. And meanwhile, we cut this boy who has spilled his drink. And he's rubbing his hand through the water. Just like Matthew, mcconaughey is his hands. And I have to say it makes sense from connaitre, be rubbing his hands with water because he's mystified by how that water got there for the boy to just spill his drink. And rub the water around weird. Has issues. I don't want, I don't want to say anything that could be considered offensive. I don't I don't wanna make light of people who have. You know withdrawn he's withdrawn. He's very withdrawn. So there's part of him that's like you have to touching water because it's just him. It's a wave trapped in the reality 'cause otherwise. Growing pool or something. Yeah. And he otherwise busy with his name video games, the boys, always plan on his computer all the time. And most of the time, we watch him, it's one of those shots routes through the inside of a computer screen, and we can, and we see his face with, like, code in front of him, and then also fishing in front of him at one point. Like it's very clear, the first we see him in front of computer screen. It's like there's a fishing game. It's like, oh, come on movie. Also this movie's made by an old person because that's not the game a teenager. Makes a fishing game. Yeah. No not. You mean catch the trout is not a hot new title? I mean unless it's like leisure suit. Larry catches the drink or something like that does a lot of fun leisure suit, Larry. They were when I was kid when I was a kid when their parents were not at home. So is this next part? Where is the scene where Jason Clark arrives in town? Yeah. The husband, the bad husband, the bad husband, arrives, surprising, and Hathaway who loudly squeals. Oh. You weren't supposed to rival until tomorrow. And he has chartered a jet. Yeah. Her reaction is intense. She's been surprised by her abusive husband you're right now. I think she'd be better at hiding what Stewart now we're on the bed dad rankings, as he's not a bad dead. Soccer dad like kind of bad. Dad is eve it's a tough one. He's not a bad data. Rad dad, although Jason Clark does make a meal out of this role. It's really tough. I mean he is I mean he is coded as the worst person in the universe. Yeah. So it's like I remember when I was watching little shop, a horrors, and I pretty quickly jumped on the train of, like, oh, this dentist, needs die, and I feel like Jason Clark beat like he like beats beats that out within seconds. Like there are it's almost like how in the beginning of up Pixar was like we are, you know, when bombies mom died, we're going to beat that in mobile. I mean, yeah, I mean, let's let's say how we beat that making Jason bad, but guy he shows up and he mmediately demands at an Hatheway just robe. And then he likely he so he can examine her. He puts on heating. So. That was literally, the next thing say he bends down. He puts his glasses on in such a clinical way that watching with my girlfriend. She likes is he a doctor? That is much more. What it seems like. And I thought he she may be had some kind of tattoo that was a map of the island that was going to be treasure somewhere. And she was like, like I it was like, oh, that's the, that's the twist Anne Hathaway is the map in Waterworld. She's got a map on her. But like. So he's got to inspect it and be like, oh, yes, the treasures here. Well instead he's examining here, but so closely because he's looking for marks on there, that I guess, would suggest maybe she's doing something while he's not around. I'm not really sure why he's so other than being completely controlling like ways obsessed with this particular thing. I think he wants a perfectly blink canvas, do his work. Okay. Well, he sees a scratch on her, which means that she must be punished and the CNN's with him taking off his belt. Yeah. Super gross. It's all really disgusting and sorted in a not fund way. But I will say Jason Clark his accent, this movie. He's, it's not even as good as my craw daddy accent. I it's crazy. Ex from do you think these from bad guys Ville? We're talking about the actor Jason Clark, not the actor Jason Clark the actor. He he's, I mean, his accent in other movies, as you'll agree because he's Australian, right? But he's a every movie has got a you know, fine American accent. But this one, it's like it's like somehow all the worst elements of a New Jersey accent in Philly accent a southern accent in one accent. I thought he was opposed to be from Boston. I thought they were like trying. Maybe it's Boston to it's just like, basically, like the kind of accent, where you're like, oh, this guy's a criminal of some kind. The and the way he's dressed. I feel like there's, there's an assistant right off camera with a spray bottle, just spraying him down to make him look grocer and wetter everyone. So wet in the. Crisco the whole time. I mean I like that because I get called back to, like, there are a lot of like nineties like Florida in wars. And like I like the just the sense that everyone's constantly sweating through their shirt or because it's too sexy. It's like it's like a heaven's prisoners rwu things. Yeah. It all goes back to body heat body heat for like sweaty movie. This does feel like two steps removed from Zoman king movie, too. To the beginning. Yes, but, but that's one of the things I like about, but we'll get to that later. So. Jason Clark goes down to the boat that has wife is presumably chartered for him. And Matthew mcconnahey is like, Nope. Can't take you out regulation say, it's just me. I can't have just me and you boat and no one else to help out now that probably checks out. I guess the movie's done. That's it. That's about a man who was denied a fishing trip. Jason wait someone in my life said no to me, that's what I needed limits. So I can define myself by who I want to be, and not who I feel the urge to be. Thank you. Baker jill. Thank you for showing away. And then he says to Anne Hathaway. He gets on his knees. He says I have so much to make up for you. Give me a second chance. I know. I don't deserve. Can you find it in your heart? And she looks to the heavens. And Jesus says, yes, my daughter, forgive him just winks. And she says, okay, I'll do is our Lord would and I'll forgive you and they open up missionary orphanage somewhere. And that's the end. Matthew mcconaughey is like where's that tuna? That is crazy. This is Christian movie, the whole time. No. Yeah. He will not be denied Jason Clark, and he says tomorrow, I'm gonna come. I'm gonna give you ten grand take me out and you're going to do it. And he walks off. He stones away and Baker deal vote zooms off in once again, we, we did mention for it happens. Another them to the guy in a suit runs up going Baker, dill Bakersville need to talk to you all shoot. Okay. So I must been I don't know quite what happens just, just after there's a bunch of stuff where everyone's tolen-, Baker dill, basic, everyone in town is just repeating what's going on. We know you're. You know, that your ex wife's husband is, is abusive to her, and they're doing it away like like their gas lighting Emmer, something like these people are staring at him in a behaving like they're weird alien robots. Yes. Yeah. And that's very good way to put it end. And Duke is like we should take the scout fishing. We need the money and deals like okay, but dill tells Anne Hathaway characters name I can remember Karen, Karen tells Karen, not gonna kill him every sorry and she says, and she says, oh, by the way, when you talk Patrick can hear you. You're connected with him. And Patrick can hear you through his computer screen. That's what says, and this is paddock's idea. Oh, that's right. It was Patrick's idea for deal to take out his stepdad and kill him. Yeah, yeah. At this I, I wanted to clarify. Thank you already kind of have that. I think I forgot to say something very important, which is this McConnell. Hey, ask Anne Hathaway about their, their son. And she talked about a lot about how he was withdrawn entirely into computers and he plays games all day and. Tron or, and your life, and you're like, oh, that kid that we keep seeing the computer is a son. We understand all that. And but when we point. The computer we can he's in his room and we can hear through the door, stepdad yelling at his mom at this point. I was like, oh, I know what the twist is. Let's see if you the audience can guess. Should've turned the cameras. Have you figured it out yet, folks? All right. We're going to be revealing in about twenty minutes. See how close you got wrong, Danny. That's a big name to be playing in the movie. I wanted to get again, cast crawdads in the movie since it was my character, they do on television on SNL, but they wanted to bigger star. So Matthew mcconaughey is gonna play Crotty and these good casting. He's good. Casting, I believe, has a guy who raised in the in raised in the swamps among moss, and the good who's now living the middle class life in a suburb of Connecticut insurance. That's why gonna get to and he can his he's always embarrassing his kids with his down home by knowledge, but that's what gets them out of the jams to is all those things, he learned wrestling Gators catch is raw dads, and nutrients. Yeah, we're he's about to clarify, what kind of jam says, kids are getting into. Elliot, I should just abandon our other TV projects and just pursue. Crawdads. I think we have to. Yeah. I mean it's kind of what God put me on this earth to do. Kind of soon that this was year. Like your low key pitch for crowd. Eddie general. Yeah. We're, we're not halfway through the movie already gone almost an hour. I don't have. I don't have. How much you loved her daddy. We'll give him his own show. I actually don't have a problem with how far we're going over just yet because this movie deserves it. But we all stopped. I'm at crowd. Eddie for a little bit longer. So they take Jason Clark out, and he's talking about, I hate my son Patrick. He's so crazy and weird he's always playing computer game catching fish. And this is when, you know, an English person wrote, this movie is he goes. Yeah. Well, his maths teacher says, he's real smart. And it's like, well, we'll hold us Matthew. Yeah. Like issue. And it's or maybe I'm just heard it. But, like that's the captions also told me was that it said, I put the captions on, because I was like I, there's so much Grumbly mumbling from madman Honey, and I'm like, maths teacher. Someone must have caught that right? That we don't say maths in the United States, just like said it because, you know, he memorized the lines his backwards Australian way. Talk about it, and he's like stepson, even threatened to kill me. And there's top in Plymouth's, he's at a town on vacation. So if someone were to kill me or if I were to kill somebody else, I'd be there'd be no law. Can do whatever I want, like the just stack the deck so hard in this. Underage sex workers. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. I think you're skipping ahead a little bit. And maybe confusing people like Anne Hathaway comes. She's like trying to convince him again, kind of has, like, yeah, I'll take the ten grand, but I'm going out tomorrow. Three mental be on the boat and three men are coming back on the boat them. And so, like, she he does take this guy out in the water, and he has this amazing monologue where you'd midst to all the most evil thing at once. Directly, drink, it was directly lifted from Richard, the third if I'm. And Richard, the third also ends with a fake out where you think that they're going to push them in the water. But instead, they come back having caught a big shark at this point. It was written by William shark. Spear. There are. This point. There are a lot of meaningful closeups on John Hans Suess face as he's putting it together. He's like, oh, this guy's an asshole, who needs to buy, probably that fancy lady came by to try and get my guy to kill him. And, you know, whatever he's got all the pieces of this. Here. They come back. That's when Karen tells him was Patrick's idea to kill his daddy says she says he wants Justice, but Justice isn't that the name of that famous tuna fish that Matthew mcconaughey is famous for wanting to catch and everyone Scott timeout, this movie amazing. And it was really like at that point. If like oh, you said, the secret word because that's what makes me kinda heavy like all right. I'll kill them. I think we also skipped over then kind of important, which is that the way he gets on Hodzic back on the boat is he's like uneasy to deliver me from temptation. That's right. Your job is you're going to be on the boat and you're gonna tell me you're gonna stop me from doing something. I shouldn't. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Right. So the comeback to, to land and giant hopped shoes, take him out for a drink. Like he's like, yeah. Tell me about Tim tation wants island be see, I think it was a FOX show. What's normally doesn't play that low brow, right? And we must see TV lineup. It was, it was friends, the single guy Seinfeld. And temptation island. And Dr Hans who is playing Jimmy cricket here. He's like, John. You're good. You're good. You're good, man. Don't kill that dude. And. While they're like surrounded by a like a Caribbean rainstorm, right? Yeah. Like a tropical storm. And in the storm something happens that I forgot like back at a check so he doesn't go back to his shack. He goes to his boat. With Karen, his ex wife. They have late night rendezvous he base, she. She comes onto him pretty hard and he agrees to do the job. But says, I'm doing this for my son, I'm not doing it for you. And then they have the most unsatisfying super fake movie sex, I've ever seen in a move, but he like deliberately blue balls her. Yes. Leak. I'm gonna fuck you. And then he's like, that's it. That's what he says, is because he's it was literally just him trying to stick it to the other, dude. Let sticking it to movie hates women, but also in Hathaway in this moment is just like this is the weird thing, which is remember when we were sixteen in you married me with a brass ring and told me I was old enough on the pier. It was finally old enough on the pier. That night or whatever it's. Abridge. They had sex on a bridge, and he was like, you know, people don't he's like people don't change. And she's like, well, that means on still that lady on the bridge, and you're like what? Yeah, a lot of these, there's a lot of like, really weird phrasings of things like like not just like fraught conversations, but, like the camera will focus on a thing, and you're sort of, like, I don't know what symbolism in this movie or not, like this is something that's why we're looking at it or if this is significant is clearly, going to be significant some way. But I don't know why that it feels like the kind of love scene. That would be written about a young man would write about his parents, once, you know, the twist of the movie it's like there's this weird scenes characters would be going through these kind of sadistic sex games. With Matthew mcconaughey. Like why a lot is. Seen that people are going to be disappointed by LA. No, you're right. I hadn't had occurred to me that does not with the twist adult. No, not at all. This is less. I mean, the thing is also like the kid at the center of the movie. All you can the only thing you can really get from it by the end. The movie is that this is creepy kit. Weird kid but that this kid has watched like nor marathon right before doing what he does or something like that. Like, yeah. Everything is just. Do that tradition. Kids love film war, my son. He's five years old. He's always like daddy can I see detour go home of Noir? And I'm like one. Why are you talking like a baby? Sold. Also like detour. I mean that's a little intent. I mean you might find it boring too, but it's a little intense and he's like, no I like it. I like walk. And we d again. Gun. I, I wanna watch gun Kwesi. I like him. Like how the good doubles for penis watch wall. Wa wait what? Yeah. Wall. This is fully realized childcare, this is character from CHRI daddy's crawdads kid in war boy. And he loves film war. About both of those characters is there's a twist on them, you wouldn't expect. So the Bakersville this point, he has a conversation to the Scott to is to his absence, son. And he has a line about cameras opportunity, pours off, her like rain, which makes no sense. It's like one of those lines, I was talking to somebody recently about the line in the movie, heist were, Danny devito says, of course you need money. We everyone does. That's why they call it money. What, what is, of course, you liked money. Everyone does it. That's why they call it money. That's that's money. But it's like that doesn't make any sense, like money is not a not a double intangible. I don't understand. Yeah. So maybe because money sounds like Honey. That was Roger Everts favourite line of the movie. I remember you singled out as being particularly funny, it makes no sense because funny rhymes with money. I get it. Okay. So, Dan, tell us, we finally get to meet the guy in the suit has been chasing after bacon Diller all this time, what's, what's his deal show. His deal is. Verse you need me to say his deal or no. I his deal is I want to sell you this. Sonar vici-, find our item. It's a sort of thing that midway through video game. You would you would find it would help you find fish. If you were playing a fish finding video who would do such a thing that's crazy. I mean. Yeah. I mean if I was playing jaws video game for summer so anyway, this fish finder. Fish finder general, he is acting in really like cryptic way, even though it seems like he's just there to sell Baker dill something. He says he's a sales rep from tackle company, any of this new sonic fish finder, and he wants to try it out for a week and he goes, it will work the finder will work, and then he says, and then we'll then what happens next. What, what, what are we learned? He's well, is this when he says the weird statement, I am the rules as though it just slipped out of him which clearly did it as a pointed sense, lifts out of him like an unguarded far rain off over water. Well, the movie tries to excuse it by saying, he shouldn't drink, but it's still very weird thing to just spit out. And. And what they're couple other things that makes Matthew mcconnahey suspicious. What what happens? Show up at his house at two thirty in the morning to give him a fish. Find and tells you tells him don't kill that man you're supposed to catch this fish kill that guy. Amici you at this point threatened with a knife. Like, what will you know what are you talking about? What's going on? And is this, the twist is real. Yes, this is revealed, Chris that what what's the reality of Plymouth island? Dan, could you could you guess it audience various that the cuddle fifty three a fishing computer game might be related to this some? Yes, it seems that Baker deal. And the entirety of Plymouth island, our contracts of this of this, unknown at this point to the nerdy guy creator. And not reassure wife, if he doesn't know the creator he knows what the rules of the game. But you just know that that guy is a nerd is what you're saying. Yeah. Oh, yes, he's a Mr. fish finder. They play the creator thing like a twist for him. But, like that's the only thing we know for sure. Like we forget that other people don't know there must be some other, there's some other movie called fish finder. That's about this character. And he has his own discovery twist. And it's like that intersected with serenity, because it really. Yeah. It doesn't make sense. Why if this character is gonna come in and be like actually were computer game? I'm the rules that tell you what to do. The fact of why he would not know who the like the audience hasn't figured out who's done it by now. And Matthew mcconaughey is pretty much figured as basically like at this point, like, wait a minute. My son's into computers. You're saying we're part of the computer game. He's like done a Tele. We does machines. Like he's like, like he seems pretty convinced right away on. Although he pretends not to be convinced like you see in his eyes that everything's like falling into place, but he's like get out get out of here. Not go on go on get not to make another fish pun, but the scales have fallen from his is. Yeah, this is the point where I'm gonna make I'm gonna make perhaps a very uphill argument here. Okay wishes that this twist was much less bonkers than advertised because I'd take because number one, it is so foreshadowed in the movie that you see it coming a mile away. So it, you can't be gobsmacked by it that way. But number two, it's not that uncommon lake a Sifi construct to be like, oh, like we're in this made up reality Truman show matrix sort of situation. Cloak-and-dagger sort of city type thing. Yes. So it's not baffling to me like to be like, wow. It's crazy that they're video game characters like that did not, I'll make me think what's going on. Here's advertised. Sorry. Not to. Here's a while. Say bonkers twist is because this movie it's like if at any point other than their clumsy foreshadowing. They head into this as a science fiction movie at all. It would be it would not seem as crazy. It's crazy to me that this is the twist that the writer decided to put into the movie and to be like this whole time, I'm gonna pretend it's like a souther, like like a like it's sweaty like hot film. What's leasing wa but then it's going to turn out to be a science fiction movie push back. It's gobsmacked in that I'm like, why would you do that? It's stupid. A video game that anyone would play like it's like this isn't like a if it was like the old west and suddenly, it's like, oh, we're gonna video game like yeah. Okay. Like people like playing games like that. I feel like I feel like genius point is good. I'm gonna push back against Elliott's point which is if you start the movie as a sci-fi movie, then it's not a twist at all. You're like, oh, of course, in the scifi universe, this is going to happen. Switched between genres this way, like makes more sense to me like you in the game. You, you play a level where you go fishing. And then at the end of that level, you return to constants play by Diane lane where you have sex, and you level up and spend your XP. I would say it makes it's you don't want to give away a twist, but you have to prepare the ground for like if the six cents was about a man who works in a Bank. And then end they're like, wait aware that Telera starting to oh, he died years ago. That would not be a good twist, the well already know the movie involves ghosts. So in Bruce Willis revealed to be a ghost, you're like what a twist. It's if I was watching a movie about a doctor and then halfway through someone was like your alien, right? Like, oh, yeah, I am and alien I'd be like, what the hell is this doctor who is that true? This is the twist. I was worried that the show Russian daughter was gonna turn out to be. I was so happy when it I was like, oh, she's dying sheaves coming back to the same point. She works in video games. It better not turn out that she's a character video game. And then it didn't turn out that. And I was like, oh. Spoiler alert for people who haven't watched a Russian doll. It does not the twist the way it ends is not the dumbest most obvious way. Do you want to give the movie a little bit of credit here, which is like sure like you, you, you get to the twist before the movie does like your ahead of it. However, the movie does not save this revelation for like I don't know like a third or quarter of the way from the end late gets read of this revelation right in the middle because it's like all right. You see what we're doing here. Let's up fucking around, you know, although the movie, I will, I will say that the movie kind of like slows down after that after the twist is revealed in a weird way that kind of twist is supposed to come right before the end the climax maybe Wade said you ever halfway through? So it's got a walk around a little bit, and much kinda has to kind of pretend he doesn't. He takes down maps of Plymouth island to try to find it in the world. And it's like high bother. You know what? All of a sudden. Rb oh games don't feature, an engaged map of the world map it out yourself. Look online for a tutorial. That's what makes it like lovable for me. Like what happens there, because it's so ridiculous that in the world of video game. Matthew would kinda would pull out a map of Plymouth, that's completely blank other than plan. Revealing that Plymouth exists in this netherworld. Rather than like it being like, oh, let's set this in some recognizable reality, you know, it's not like math econo- is going to be like, okay, like, I don't know. Like to reveal this way is absurd knowing what the twist is. And you would think that a kid that would be knowledgeable enough to create the code to make his own fishing. Same would make the effort to like study up on other place, but maybe creating a fantasy world where fishing is the only law. He's like I could take another couple minutes to just place it on a map somewhere, but really have to, I really have to get the rendering right on this scene, where my dad's but is rusting into. A couple of seconds. Priorities priorities. Come on focus. All right. So this point, I don't know it becomes a whirlwind of like Matthew, mcconaughey, like driving around, and like talking to evil able, Jason Clark is we find him battered bloody and broken and his hotel room. Turns out John Han Soo hired spent his share of the ten grand to hire some fellows to beat him up so that and break his hands. So he could not go out fishing the next day. It's not the most efficient way to get him to not go fishing on that particular boat, just get a better voter something. We're just give him anything else to do already went fishing. Once he wants to catch tuna that badly. He caught a shark already shark is cooler than to full shark. Yeah. Yeah. And meanwhile while we're on the shark. Happened. While we're seeing Jason Clark, all busted up and possibly unable to fish today. Meanwhile, Matthew, as having a total, existential breakdown like he's drinking rum. He's standing in cornfields talking to his son. Diane sun shows up at of nowhere and says you can hire me for your buddy misses, no go away. Any leaks? From the room of this. Movie Randall kinnisson, Matthew, become a is realizing over the course of all this. I mean, basically told this, by the rules guy, but he's also like realizing like the game will do anything to keep him from killing the bad husband, like the game is actively working against him achieving that goal because it's not in the rules that someone dies in the game. Yes. Which is like, and so, none of this makes sense, though, again, in the context of the twist the movie like why is the game working against the objective of the game in that way? I mean every game is working against you complete the game. But also this positing a world where video game characters when you make it's like the way that when your kid, you imagine the TV is full of tiny people who put on house when you watch video games are full of tiny people who, like have their own lives are walking around doing their own thing, and trying to figure out what they're up to. And it's like I don't I don't I don't understand. Like there's so much metaphysically. I'm saying the movies kind of a mess but. It became clear also that Baker dill, he's like, maybe maybe the members. I don't remember from the war. Maybe that's what's Jonas. And you're like, oh, I see died will find. I want to go back to say, like I think we got sidetracked, but, like the reason that kid shows up. I don't know where sacking I can work on your boat is the game trying to throw an obstacle up because he's like, oh, there's going to be a witness right to the murder if, if I take this kid on. And so, basically, he says yet again, go on kit kid you, but yeah, but clearly like the kid who created the game wants him to kill the guy. He also then supposedly programming in obstacles like what I mean, his desires as, as a kid of an abusive stepdad are fighting his desires as a top notch game developer. Can't make the game too hard. That's never beatable. But you can't make it so easy to beat it in one sitting like it's the challenge this something, I'm trying to explain to my son, and he doesn't get it, 'cause he kid is the importance of the fun of a game is the challenge. And so if you win easily, if you win every time, what's the point of plane, then you're just stuck in, in the place from the twilight zone episode where it's hell because you win all the time that the show, the good place ripped off, basically, the you can't be looking at wanna win all the time. So the kids like I want my dad to die in this game. But I also wanna be recognized as the sugar Miyamoto of my generation was just making the best games ever. So anyway, McConnell. Hey, is drunk and despairing on the beach, and the but never looked better the rules guy. But he looks amazing. Yeah. The rules guy, the fish finder guy comes up to them, and they have this sort of argument discussion between the. The two of them wear like the rules guy kind of disappears for certain two shots of the characters. But is there when like mcconnahey is looking at him? So he's kind of like unreliable presence, but in the scene, but they had this conversation where McConnell. Hey, convinces the rules. Hey, what the creator want the crater is my son and what he wants is for me to kill this abusive guy. And at that point, the rules is like wealth, the craters changed his mind, about things I have to help you like let me inform you to that end that Anne Hathaway has unlikely convinced battered bruised. Jason Clark, still go out and fish that day fifty minutes to get back there. Also in this scene is the moment that I knew the entire audience, I sought within the theatre had become onboard with being a bad movie, which is the rule says, we are such stuff as dreams are made of and the audience just erupted and apply. Just that the goal to quote William shark spear in this dumb. Yeah, there's a lot of this conversation. That's like, you know, basically the most movie gets, like what is the true nature of reality? Anyway, here's a partner earlier were read. He lives near a lighthouse. And, and read the rules guy he goes, he goes. The lighthouse light dark ones zeros, and it was like, come on. That doesn't mean anything like it sounds like something, of course, it means something. That's why it's called money. And here the movie kind of MRs opportunity, because he has to race to the boat to get there in time to join Jason Clark, and I wish that people from Plymouth island were just jumping in front of his truck, just like, hey, hey, don't you want to catch that tuna? Instead, just like slow him down. So he missed this him to the end of the gang. The game trying to slow him down or changes mind rather, like I forgot one of the most hilarious examples of that earlier, which is win the radio station. Expressly says Baker del don't you want to go out and catch that, too? His lines. About narrowcasting. I mean, come on. Yeah. I mean that's what happens like sometimes you can buy a birthday message for the radio guy to raid zone Jumbotron. The it was this around the time, where Anne Hathaway despairing that her soon to be dead. Spoiler alert husband is it looks like he's unable to fish. She convinces him that he can still go out by having her having him choke, her like he would choke his fishing rod or if he has the strength to choke her with his hands, then he must have the strength to hold fishing. They also introduce, like kind of, they don't really do it, most of the movie, and then at this point, she starts calling him daddy, with, like reckless abandon, and it's really upsetting. Yeah. Gross. So L. Converge on the boat. If she had called him. Crawdads. Eight people have been like who's this new Karen? I'm gonna have to Google that when I get out of the movie theater. So they all converge on the boat. And Hathaway and McConnell. Go out on the boat with Jason Clark, and planning to kill. Well, let me get their deal is in full on crazy Modi's. We'll can go fish who. Pouring rump down face Clark's throat making them as drunk as possible, and everything looks great for murder low. What are they firm? Or let's have one too. Right. At that moment. The kids shows up the one that wanted a job and son. Yeah he had stowed away because he's like I knew you really wanted me on the boat. I, I forget what he was. But, you know, he's like I could tell you a Harry and the hendersons ING me, so I stood away on your boat. So do that. You must be a true friend. I'll stick by you through thick and thin. Oh, we shall have in quests. We should go on, on the marts shell sing of us, and our search for the uncatchable fish Justice at this point, you know mccown. You know, McCain had we gotta do there's a witness and. Tugged on a collar and went good. So they have a quick conversation in the end the, the cabin being like how do we handle all this, and they throw some things around that wouldn't work and, and this point, the, the Justice takes the bait, there's a fish on the line, and it happens to be Justice at this point. I was like the second point in the movie. Oh, I know it's going to have. So the way they dispatched, Jason Clark, finally is they let him take the Rodwin justices on the line, and like mechanics, very loudly to the kid being like let it be noted that this guy's asked for the real, and of course Justice being Justice Jason Clark under the water. I wish mas- money and said here that Ringin justices on the line. What he says, he's like heels that's Justice. You got him and he's like, yeah. Yeah. And he's got you. And then they like, oh, Jason Clark any flies into the water. A to drown, you know. You know. Just as the Vish he doesn't. It's not like the end of shape, watery doesn't grow gills. And the important thing is, this is all intercut with the sun at computer with a knife in front of him. Clearly, you know, hamlet ING it about whether he's going to kill this guy. And at the moment that they finally kill Jason Clark's to be or not to be for in such games of fishing. What, what, what Tunas show a catch, like, you know, does this? Look, he, he Mods it for this one, so, yeah, when the when the imaginary abuse father dies is, when he goes, the other room and off-camera stabs the real father, how is that information related to us that he has now stabbed his step-dad? There's a bunch of news, reports about how this kid got arrested for murder and but there's mitigating circumstances. There is abuse of the family, his father's deal. Yeah. His dad John Mason died in Iraq. And we see his dad was awarded a posthumous purple heart. We see his dad's picture and purple art in. Patrick says my favorite part of the newspaper says his principal Dylan Baker says that he's a good kid and talented with computer is like why is this? In the news report. One wise the story on the news, too. Why is that the news report? It's such a it's like the movie and twenty four hour news cycle Elliott. Cycle. You gotta fill. Cooper twice each night. You mention that after he Jason Clark. It's dragged under the, the waves to be taken to Davy Jones locker that kinda, hey, like digitises like the lawnmower man in this later later comes later, so. Yeah. At this, this is the point at which we learn okay. Real Matthew mcconaughey. Prime died in Iraq. And that's part of and you saw, but he is prime. That along with the abuse. Presumably also, like why this kid is withdrawn into this fantasy world where he is built a fake dad. Well, I mean, a real dad, but is but. He he had a memory when he was three his dad took him fishing. They didn't catch anything, but they had a good time, but his dad got kinda mad. And that's why he's become associated his dad with fishing. Also with never catching fish and anger, and anger terrible dad, he does come off as a bad bad, bad, bad fake dead. Yeah. So all the pieces of put together and kinda hate goes and owning any, I guess tells Baker deal, you'll find Patrick somewhere, and then she disappears everyone island has disappeared by this point, like someone got junk code. They all like open their mouths and you get a you get like a like a dialup modem connection sound. Now, Matthew mcconaughey is on the phone to his kid. Like, you know fake life to real life. They're chatting because, like, well, here's, here's a like I want to say before this, like we see like a picture of the kid in like, basically sanitarium type thing, even a picture, film footage. Yeah. Yeah. What is it him? Like there and like. It becomes clear that he may not never like withdraw from this fantasy life. Well, they said, they say on the news, that he's been released to his mom's custody, but he won't talk to anybody. Yeah. And the thing is like this movie at this point because there's about to be a reunion between father and son. This movie is positing. That is a happy ending that this kid has gone crazy. There's someone saw Brazil, and they were like. God. But so they have a sentimental talk and the kids like you know, I'm going to redesign the game so he can come. Visit you sometimes again, be withdrawn fantasy talking about at that point because the game is being redesigned, the world around Matty, began any splits into polygons chard, and it swirls around him. Yeah, yeah. And, and it looks awesome is what we're trying to say. And end it ends with Patrick appears in the game runs off to, to Baker gills boat, and they hug. And then the boat goes off into the distance and you got assume, you know, this is my spoiler alert for what this what happens. Efforts is his son is like dad, is that what having sex is like? Did I sit? Right. I'm disappointed that the end didn't feature their boat like pulling up to an island covered in monsters, like the end of deep rising. But that's okay. Or like like some aliens, come by and start shooting at them in Patrick's like changed the game dead. Okay. So if told the story surrounding. Yeah. Let's tell the story of our failings about serenity in final judgments is a good bad movie. A bad, bad movie or a movie, you can alike. I wanna go later, I feel like. Just take the wind. I mean, I'll I think this is a good bad movie. I think it's really goofy. And it's fun to watch the other people, and it's dumb, and, you know, whatever enjoy. I agree. It's a good bad movie. And it's like I mean, there's some Iggy gross stuff about it. So. Oh, you're watching it with, but it's so over the top even before the stupid twist is so over the top in terms of its like sweat, and war, sleaze quotient. And then once you get the twist, you're like, I knew that was gonna happen, but still movie. It's a good good bad movie. I think this is one of my favorite good bad movies. I bought it because I'm excited to show it to everybody. I know. Someone ran it. So it sounds like a warning one. We. I also realized my friend pointed out, we were looking at my really just paltry I tunes movie collection, and I own to Jason Clark movies, and the other is our lips are sealed, the Mary, Kate nationally movie that takes place in Australia. All right. Guys, we're gonna say buckle our seatbelts. Get a harness on. Yeah. Hold down flip off. Everybody likes this movie. Now here's what I say, for me the biggest negative about this movie. That, but yeah, sure is that it's a pretty damn trivial movie to take on so much like spousal abuse and child abuse. Doesn't it does not deserve that as a plot point, because it's such a silly movie a war like all that's like it all that stuff. It does not. It's, it's a slender read for the weight of all that Trump. Yes that being said, so I love the first half because I love that tradition of super cheesy like hot weather, like sunbaked Noir. Like, like I said, at sweats all over everything. Maybe someone wears a Panama hat. I don't know. Yeah. Basically Dan, really loves burn notice. Lesson war but yeah, sure. Why not characters? Well, no, but like I love that stuff. And I have to say, like I don't know if you guys will be with me, but I think it's hard to disagree, even if this movie is very silly. It's shot very like it looks pretty beautiful off through it. I think it doesn't weird thing where it introduces in Hathaway and Jason Clark in these, I think there's opposed to be like, character introductions video game like these. Yeah. The cameras around and changes. Yeah. I thought that was so weird. But I but they're worse than like stress of the water where I was like, wow. That's a really beautiful shot of the water. They I would say it is it looks it looks good. It is shot and edited in such a way that it is maximum melodrama on air, but that's the all this. And it's like I know that's what they were going for. But they went so far with it that I was like if this is not a comedy, then you're going too far with this. On the movie looks good. I won't give it that. Well, that's like the maximum melodrama is another one of the things that I really like about it, because it like for me. This is a movie for people who are, like, really, really into movies in a way because it, it does Senna files only. No, no, no. I didn't say that essentials, whether it be like good movies, like trashy movies, like the movie very much trades on your knowledge of this type of film, and is like ramping up the melodrama because it's like kind of silly version of war film. I guess you are you are kind of I think we come from it. I mean, I do think it's good bad movie, I think we're coming from two opposing things, which is that I agree that it is tempting those things I think it doesn't pull them off as well. You do. It's the same reminds me of what Mike Nelson wrote about the movie wild things where he was like the movie is trying to have it both ways that if you like it. That's because it's like us clever. Thriller. But if you don't like it. Well, it's Tien chic, it's supposed to laugh at it. Anyway. In this kind of feels like that, to me a little bit spoiler alert. I kinda like wild things. Does anybody? Listen, this podcast could probably piece that together, but anyways certain seeds from wild things. I'm sure you've seen many times as I said before the other thing, wants the movie turns from like that nor movie into this Koufi Sifi contract. I again, like I said, earlier in the movie, I didn't think the twist was that bonkers because it's like other twists I've seen. So I at least appreciated the, the movie got rid of it pretty quick. And then just committed to that idea with a lot of silliness. And you know I just like the silliness. I wish I wish that when he jumped into the water you were here like. Jumping sound. Yeah. I know some kind of some kind of some kind of death sound effect is he he goes in there. Yeah. Something like that little goat a little ghost floats up when somebody dies they dissolve away. And then there's like a big chunk of meat left on the grounds that he can haunt our up as soon as Suzie hits the water he explodes into circles, like mega man. Natalie. Yeah. Anyway, what a yarn that was. Let's. Okay. Welcome back fireside chat on KM eight. Knicks with me in studio to take your calls is the dope is on the west coast, Oliver Wong and Morgan roads, though ahead caller. 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And Boston had order. Yes. I'd also like to take this moment to briefly plug my wife and I opened a brand new bar. I think I mentioned it. I might have mentioned it here. I definitely mentioned it on other social media, and it's a little baby bird of a business. So we would love your support and help. It's called minis bar. M. I. N. N. I. E apostrophe. Yes. And it's in sunset park Brooklyn on four th avenue and thirty third street and check it out. So if you know, like maybe even you've been around in New York, and you're like Kensington too far from where I am. I got another option. Yeah. There's the other thing that was going to say, though about the website. If you go to the blog section, we are running that t shirt contest, so winners can choose a movie, I talk about and get a tiny bit of scratch is there a deadline for that contest deadline is the end of may. So just go there and all the thirty first the last day of may, yes. Civic. Let's. The well. Okay. I think you can figure out what I was saying. But the date ain't nothing but a number let's just say may but all the technical specs of what you gotta do are on the blog. Yeah. When you say end of may, they might think by the end of this movie may that I'm watching on demand. That's crazy. How would he know that why did you which year twenty forty seven twenty ninety two? All right. I will say the live shows the next one coming up in June eighth in Portland, that's by the tennis absolute comes out, only a few weeks away. So get your Portland, June eighth. Okay. Let's move onto letters letters from listeners listeners like you. Is from listeners and listeners like you do. We're reading your letters and loving your hand K. Hang K. Thing us pain, K, eating all these pankke. The thing I love most about lettuce song. Is that it's not about letters rather? It's about Pandey. Oh, I missed that subtext. Yeah. Is pretty it's hidden pretty deep dislike instrumented the Justice theme is pretty, pretty hard to so anyway, so it's just like that song born in the USA I thought it was about being born in the USA, but it's actually about pancakes. Yeah. Exactly. Okay of breakfast, because he can tape them like pancakes, actually, you know what alphabet, those were of cereal never mind, the letters of breakfast in that they always tell you something, you didn't know before you pay to you guys. First letter from Alex, last name withheld jar, he writes, thanks for putting on such a great live show at Earl and come back to Indiana anytime. That's a in reference to show that we've done, but not released that was about drastic world fallen kingdom, which comes into play in paragraph. Two. Letter. Dan? Oh, what element of Jurassic world fall kingdom that I love is that there's no less than three scenes that relied on the T Rex being stealthy, one of the most iconic scenes of the original Jurassic Park is the water Cup seen yet. Here we are a few movies later. And this massive creature is apparently master of these sneak and pops out from the side of the frame, once per act. In that spirit. What are your most memorable times, a franchise has wildly ignored previously established rules, either for good or for bad. Thanks for the years of laughter. Alex last name withheld, sending you may not noticed watching dress, girls that transfers and it's pretty clear shots rang enormous slippers. Oh, much better. Yeah. You would think he'd be wearing sneakers. X. But they re he tied copies DVD copies of the movie sneakers to his feet. Wow. Okay. So I've got a couple here. Like one is real lake what he's talking about and one, they did specifically for a fact. But in terms of accidentally ignoring previously established rules. So there's that moment of the adventures, and it is explained with one, okay? It is explained with one line. I will give that to the movie, but in the most half ass way possible, so Thor, and with it being a big fucking deal that the by frost is destroyed and he can't come back to earth ever. Yeah. In the adventures. He's kinda shows up on earth now. Look has like a line being must've taken all of owns Magic's get you here. But it's like okay, well, then if that's a fucking thing, Odin can do then. Why was it a big deal before, like thorns shows up, and we're just like whatever here, we're not gonna worry about how you seem really disappointed Thor shows up in that movie. Yeah, I think he's great come on. But I think it's just a funny thing where it's like okay this was like the major thrust of the sadness about the last movie like where he's like. I'll never see my beloved Jane again. And now it's like, oh, I can go anytime. You gotta let my dad rest up a little bit in the back was when they thought that would not do particularly well. Well ended on a tragic note. Another one will send them back to his home planet, like at the end of the first season of the TV show sledgehammer. They were so sure they would not get a second season that they blew up the earth at the end. And so the second season takes place. I think a year before the first season, full area, the other one, I wanna say is like, like they do it intentionally, like they're making a joke out of it, but I like the moment so return of the living dead isn't like a direct sequel tonight, the living dead because I mean it it's like I think produced or co written or something like there's some connection to it where like one of the guys who were who co wrote Neidl living dead has access to some of the rights, which allow him to make others movies, but not official neither living, dead sequels. And so we're trying to the living dead is kind of a quasi sequel in that way. But they make a point of the kid being like oh, shoot him in the head. That's what they did. Neither living dead. And it worked, and they do it, and it doesn't work, and he's like, oh, the movie lied, which is a fun, little moment where you realize. Oh, these are fucked because these ambi- is don't really die. Yeah. Those are great. Pause for a long time. It's my time to talk. Yeah. Well, so are there any? Yeah, I would say an example of sequel, forgetting the rules, I would say, attack the clones, of course forgets medical orients terrible sued, you take science out of Star Wars becomes less fun. And then Halloween three, they forget the rule that has to have Michael Myers. I think it works out for the better because I like it the it's not necessarily like a knowing the rules in previous dominance. But like the way that the Star Wars prequels kind of, like they take some things from the, the, the idea of just the day that the idea of iota as a distinguished figure who, like is, who is the head of an organization, I found some so like, baffling compared to the iota, we see who is like this hilarious like trickster, hermit monk. Yeah. Yeah. Seems like a waste, you know. I don't have any that are like really rule being ignored, but I do want to take this opportunity to talk about my frustration that the Princess diaries to. Go ahead and just ignore the relationship that the entire first movie spent establishing with, with Michael and as their no. Because the there's another Anne Hathaway goof, I guess, but to the entire first movie it's like she going to get together with Michael Morell really rooting for it, and everything and the second on a plane, and she's like, we're friends and immediately, like goes, Chris pines love interest, and it's just always bothered me. Yeah. That in between the movies she friend, zoned him. Yeah. Yeah. Just undercuts the struggle the first movie. Yeah. The point. And I think in the in the last like watching the Princess tires had no point in the last great movie, they forget the rule from the first movie that there are no real estate agents in Aspen named GM toe with famously great boobs. Right. And then this is character, g Matteo and Aspen, real estate boobs all the time. What are you doing this next letters from Michael last name withheld who writes, dear flop, Hauser's? I was recently watching through these Scooby movies. No, not the new Scooby doo movies, the unwisely names TV series from the seventies, nor the two live action movies that premiered in theaters. I didn't care for those, but the at least forty direct to video Scooby movies. Some are surprisingly, really good. We might need to fact check this letter. Do any of you have direct to video movies? You're really fond of despite their smaller scale and more commercial nature. Sincerely, Michael last name withheld. Yeah. I mean this is outfield. This one, I actually. Yeah. I actually only like movies that come out in movie theaters. If you check back at all of my recommendations, I've never recommended the movie that hasn't been on the silver screen at some point. So Mike, I think you're barking up their own tree or wrong Matthew mcconnahey in this case. I think that Stewart mispronounced ninja out of a tier. That. Yup. Response. Oh, I guess, I guess there's one instance of me recommend something that wasn't theaters how many universal soldier directive video. I guess those count to. I wanna say two of my favorites. I don't know if they like like it's a weird area percent. You're going to recommend the boyfriend school, right? I don't tell me major motion picture. That was in theaters. Yeah. I, I don't know if the to have technically counts, I'll give another answer afterwards. But like the my two favorite ones that, come to mind were movies that. Either were intended for theatrical release, originally or releasing another country. But here only direct to video is one of them about an off road adventure that involves a bikini and his grill. No one of them is Emmanuel sequel. One of space. One of them is trick or treat the Michael Dougherty anthology, horror series, that had Halloween that never got released. They actually, but I joined a lot and the wrong guy, the Dave fully movie that I think, was ways in Canada, but not here ever did it would get real release in Canada. But if those are not those don't actually technically count to you. I will say that speaking of wild things. I very much. Enjoy the directive video wild things and cruel intentions sequels, because those direct video versions, posit the question. What if those movies, but trashier? So they're fun. It really don't have big name stars in them. Yeah, I feel like when I was growing up. They just like we're doing a ton of Disney activity. Oh, sequels. And I have a lot of action for them because some of them I was more the right age for than the original lake. I think I've probably watched the Aladdin sequels more times. And I've watched original Jaffar return to far and Aladdin, the forty which is the third one I've watched that one, maybe the most of all of them, actually, and the extremely goofy movie I think is, again, I don't know. I have affection for it. And that was like the question is like if you're fond of it, not, what necessarily think they're good. And then my other answer is cannibal the musical Trey Parker's movie from college, they don't think ever came out in theaters. Elliott. Did you have one I forgot what you're talked? It's I don't have any in particular I have to admit I feel like I was more of a TV movie watcher for most than a direct to video release, because when I was young, I didn't watch a lot of harm movies. They were to scaly, and then so I missed out on London's lar- kid was back. I like this ingestion of violence, and occasionally, something kind of like a weighty being pushed down a staircase like in, in kiss death, sudden feel if you probably want to watch hitchhike. Maybe night in the city which it win walk. Let's see. Okay. Right about Newark. It is these immediately relatable, everybody knows one of those kids on the flake wound. I said wanna watch Sally Wong number with Bob was Stanwick. War. Of course it is sorry wrong number. Yeah. It's a suspense through let's call it more of a thriller. Yeah. All right. Maybe it's more of a suspense thriller. You guys shouldn't split hails. Film wise, is it open, John wa okay? Maybe instead of that, I should have mentioned Cornell which is the big combo. So Jenny got any of these chime in with? Noir, films and the child. Thick thick. I think they've all been covered. The question is, is a Maltese falcon. We more, I was worried anything brought up like this is gonna get picked apart about confident enough in my Noir, as northwood market is an asshole. Choices that may have seemed like I was making fun of Jennifer not knowing film nor films. I was really trying to make fun of us too many. I never get one a kid. He wanted to watch Whitlock walk west, and I'm like, I guess that's a neon wall. But. Been wa. To say I saw kiss before, dying at a at the northwest of all recently and I don't know if that counts because it gets more of throwbacks. There you go. And you want to you guys wanna clarify that we're making fun of the way, I baby would talk and not being fun of people with actual speech. Impediments. Yeah. Disclaimers. No. If, if an adult talking like that is nothing to laugh about everyone has their challenges and unicating, and we all have the things about the way we speak, their distinctive to us, but baby talking like that is. Well, we. All right. This last letter is from Bill last name withheld joke. Is that a baby lights film Noir movies? Okay. Okay. Bill asked name withheld says, hey, y'all I took an intro to foam class in my college years, and I really enjoyed it and got exposed to movies, I probably would have never seen on my own, like his girl Friday. Do the right thing and crimes and misdemeanors? The morning following each screening, we had a quiz. And after watching Roger and me, one of the questions was, why was this movie not played in Flint Michigan with the correct answer being because the movies theaters had closed down as revealed in the credits. Everyone got this question wrong, because no one stuck around for the credits are instructor told us that he'd asked the question because we all left during the credits, which are part of the movie and thus we should have stayed. Yeah. To that the instructor Kevin Tychy. A apartment something for the next movie in the Michael Moore, universe apart from giving credit to the cast and crew. I've never thought the credits hold any real significance in terms of plot. Or storytelling was a wrong assumption are their films where the credits actually add the movie or is this just a typical power trip, young college instructor move to assert dominance over a bunch of undergrads less than withheld? It was. It was that. I do think that sometimes credits have some sort of extra value value. They can have Joe. I mean, I guess the closest I think of is in the Pixar movies. Sometimes they'll have pictures next the credits that like continue the story alert, blooper reel or fake. Faye pooper like in up. There's a bunch of like fake photos that are on the side of the screen during the credits that like show Carl, and with the boy's name, wrestle and Russell's kind of relationship continuing after this adventure in some of the fun. They're having. But like that's not really the credits. It's like going the credits. But I don't like I was gonna say, I don't know, whether this is just like the words of the credits themselves or whether you can talk about things that happened during the credits. But I've got a quick answer. Reach one. Okay. I've got. And then I've got a quick answer for one of them. But you go fares. There's like Zachary Zucker things where there's jokes in the credits. So you've got that kind of thing. And there's like something like seven where simply reversing twisties? I'm having. I know I think that something as simple as reversing the direction that credits normally scroll is very unsettling at the end of an unsettling movie. So there's those things. I mean you have like gremlins to deaf Doug keeps coming out and talking to the audience during the crimes, but it's so unrelated to the rest of the film that there's a, but the other the other thing that in terms of actually continuing the story, I know that it's weird that we've talked about Wild Thing so much, but I liked the ending credits. Thanks, literally, just intersperse. I'm so surprised you made it through the end of the credits. I would have thought you would have finished a movie during one particular scene. And then maybe around and watch it again. And then returned the video unrelated to the beginning to the rental store could be. But the, the end of the movie like they're interspersed with a quick scenes that show you stuff. You weren't the like the, the, the camera was not there for the first time around filling in holes and kind of explaining the entire plot, which is. Kind of fun like to handle it that way with quick cuts during the credits of like. And if you want it spelled out, even more here you go. Like. One thing this is like, not really. I don't know if this adding anything added to my enjoyment of the movie, though. But in a fateful findings at the end of the credits the very last thing Neil Breen specifies is that any credit listed, where the person's name, it has is starts with an N B, like with the initials. That was the Breen. Which means he goes through the entire credits listing like other people doing catering and hair, and whatever and the variant of the credits. He's also those were me. Yes. Yes. This is my enjoyment of the movie. Certainly he's the credits. There's like at the end of the movie Skidoo, Harry Nilsson sings, all the credits as they come up on Spain, but like the I don't know if that really counts the same like it's the most fun thing in the movies do, but I well the end credits. In return of the king enhances, my enjoyment, by making me cry. When I see all those characters. And I love the I'm sure I mentioned this before, on the show, but I love the end credit sequence of Michael Clayton where the camera just stays on Clooney's great. Is this guy's professor is a jerk? Yeah. He's a jerk. And unless you're going to sit through all of the vendors credits to watch each of the actors sign their names on the credits than don't worry about it way credits avengers endgame. I didn't see spoiled it for myself is in care at the end during this was in the middle of the credits. They have go through the whole cast secondary cast then for each of the members of the original avengers team. They get like a clamour shot like in, like, in Cologne ad. And in there, they their signature animates on onscreen so like ending with Robert Downey junior. So it's like Jeremy renner's the first thing you see, is Jeremy Renner, and then his signature reading on screen in you're like what is going on here? Weird. It's really funny. Okay. Well, it's like less classy version of the return of the game. Check out. Guys, check out this cool segue. So that's the end of that segment onto our last segment, which is call recommendation professional. You should be women Highland radio. Are movies? I mean, look, I'm not gonna say watch them instead of serenity, like why choose the internet says, why not both. But recommendations you're champing at the bit. Well, I'm looking, I'm looking at you because this recommendations also a little bit of a little bit of a class for Dan. I'm recommending a movie that does feature. The actor Jackie Chan in it. I was gonna know, for sure. Remember that? That's what I'm here for. I just recently got my criterion collection. Blu Ray of police story and police story two and I hadn't seen them in a long time. And they're great. They're some Jackie Chan's best movies. I don't know if police story edges out, drunken master to for me, but it's close. And I, I watched I watched endgame the same day that I really want my police story. Blu Ray, and none of the special effects in avengers, made me like as shocked as the stuff that Jackie Chan does these poor guys who dare attack him around a set of cars, so or in a in a shopping mall. I mean he's amazing. What a what a treasure. Yeah. I have a recommendation of movie, I saw just last night, serenity you lie try that. I like if I can I try not to recommend major movies in theaters, because, well, why do they need my support? But I've been away for a week and I haven't seen a lot, so this movie I really liked. So keeping with the theme of awesome fights, I saw John wick three and oh, doctor, if you like those John wicks this is one of the John Wicky. So what you're telling a doctor to prescribe more, John wick, the okay gotta have it. Doc. But years from now, we're going to find out that John wake was actually contributing to an epidemic of suicides in the mid west, and then it's going to be sued, I guess, for the damages for doctors to recommend John wick to their patients when they didn't need it. Look, if you see John wake it's worth it guys. But but Dr. Go. No. I, I just wanna say quick that. I liked it especially because I feel the first John wick is such a simple concept that you can understand like the classic you fucked with the wrong guy movie, and it's pretty stripped down, like what's notable about it is, it's got great fight scenes. The second movie becomes, like like much more weirdly, like we're going to jump into a fantasy land where there's a whole like assassins, creed, if you will, like some switchboard, manned only by suicide girls, and yeah. Yeah. Clothing hotel for dogs, if you will accept instead of dogs. It's assassins. Yeah, there's a rich mythology of assassins, all of a sudden John wick to and I like that. Okay. But it felt like it come down from the, the, the con me of the first movie, the third movie makes that all worth while by pushing it so far into silliness that, like the movie is, basically a comedy at this point a comedy about like this assassin world where like all five million assassins, on the earth are going after John wick, and it's just like just a crazy concept early in the movie guy, you don't have to explain. John, John lakes crazy in the real world. There is million strong economy of wig world. But also like non assassins, like early in the movie, John wick is taking a taxi somewhere and, and he has to. Keep Vegas possible and he has to get out and. Then you're done with your tag. No, he asked you live there. No Elliot like he's trying to get somewhere. He can't get there because of traffic we to get out, but he has the taxi driver transport something for him and the drivers like sure Mr. wick, and it's like, okay, we live in a world where not only do others asses no way. But like normal taxi drivers do to apparently. He's a they advertise on TV and the John wick world. It's super funny. Ama- also Kiana Reeves is really good in this will because even though he's like this insanely unstoppable, unrealistic character. On the one hand, he also like when he's in a fight. He has the same talent that Harrison Ford has where it's like you can see him looking exhausted. You can see him like not wanting to fight anymore. You can see him like take actual damages during the movie be exasperated by everything that's happening. Like Jackie Chan and it's good. It's great like whenever you can humanize like you're unstoppable fighting force like that. It's a lot more fun. Yeah. That's right. In addition, so Jenny recommendation. Yeah. I mean it's another like movie theaters is the last one I saw. I really liked longshot. I thought it was really fun. Great another another. Big thanks for voiding spoilers for us. Yeah. No spoilers. Yeah. Read. Sorry. We gotta stay through the credits for that one for sure. Yeah. Okay. Is it all you have to say that shot? Movies, fun. I'm going to recommend a movie. That's not in theaters unless you're in Germany in nineteen seventy four and that's a movie called Alison the cities, and it's VIN vendors movie about a German writer, he's a journalist, but he has lost kind of his will to live in a way while he's been traveling through America, and in, he gets to New York and a friend of his, who's a single mother Bisley says, hey, can you take my daughter to the Empire State building? I'll meet up with you later in the day, he takes her there. And then realizes oh, this was a way of this mother basically abandoning her daughter. And now she's my charge, but I don't want to be a dad. So I've gotta figure out where to drop her off, and they travel from city to city in Europe. Try on the search for the girl's grandmother and all the girl remembers is I remember what her house looks like. But I don't remember where it is. Or what my grandmother's name is. And the two of them, of course, they give each other a reason to keep living, but a thought it was a really good movie in like very like. Funny at times, but also genuinely like said in the way you would assume a German movie from vendors, and seventies would be, and it was at the beginning of it, it was great seeing New York through the eyes of someone who is not a New Yorker like I've seen the like Woody Allen kind of Spike Lee New Yorker at someone who knows the place to see the eyes of somebody who is not a native was really cool. Does made things I'd seen before look a little different. But I just thought it was a really good movie, and I'm not usually a big road movies person, but it was a good road movies. So Allison, the city's is recommending. We've all said movie fulfilled our quota. Yep. Which means it's time for the show to end. And before we say, all our usual usual bullshit late. Dan? Wait, wait. What are we going gonna say? And I'll tell you reveal something to what are we gonna? Okay before we say, all our usual bullshit, and perhaps afterwards to why not it'd be nice. I like to thank our guests Jeffey. Thank you so much for having me. This is very fun. Like you so much for being here as part of our game because Dan, I'm here to tell you, this is what I'd cast. Well, this is a computer game other by your cat your. Your cat Archie. He's so good at computers. So we're gonna computers that he took a podcasting video game. And he made it about you. Such lane bits as craw daddy. Bit classic bit. And he can't the could envision crawdads clearly, the smartest of all cats, Dan. So there's only one way to win this game. No, no. You got to end the pike gassed properly. Okay. Okay. 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Pet Sematary (2019)

The Qwipster Film Review Podcast

09:33 min | 2 years ago

Pet Sematary (2019)

"Hi, welcome to the quitter filled review pie cast. My name is Vince, Leo. I am the author of the film review website, quit stir dot net. I check out over four thousand of my written reviews you read their anytime quit stir dot net. Key W, I S T E R dot net while you're there. Also, check out a link to my other podcast, it's called around the world in eighties movies, if you love eighties movies as much as I do you want to check that out the leak there is at that site quips stir dot net is where to go today. I'm going to be looking at a film called pet cemetery. It's actually a remake of a film that was ETA pation of a Stephen King novel. It's an are rated film does have horror violence, bloody images and some language run. Time is an hour and forty minutes. Jason Clark is the main star Amy cements, John Lithgow Detaille Lawrence also appear in the film. The directors are Kevin Koelsch and Dennis whitmire screenplay is credited to Matt. Greenberg and Jeff bueller. Nause mentioned pet cemeteries. These second film adaptation of the Stephen King novel. That was first published in nineteen eighty three not really radically different from the first attempt which came out thirty years prior in nineteen eighty nine which had been one of the rare times Stephen King adapted his own work except in this case. Now, it's delivered with a lot less camp in Blackley comical Irina, and there's a little bit of flipping around of the roles that occur as it nears its third act the premise here involves a family of four who relocate from the hustle and bustle of Boston to a small town in Maine called Ludlow. They bought a wide parcel of land. That includes many of wooded forest behind the home. It's in that forest at their daughter Ellie discovers a cemetery for beloved pets of people in the surrounding area. There's a sign at this location that is misspelled it says pet cemetery, but it's spelled SEM AT are y. And that's how the title of the novel, and the film get their misspelling the burials there. Go back decades, including one belonging to the elderly neighbor named Judd played by John Lithgow turns out that this new family may actually need. Use of this cemetery there kindly kitty named church gets run over and it causes the father Louis play by Jason Clark to have to bury the poor kitty, although he can't really bring himself to tell Ellie and break her heart now, Judd, the neighbor doesn't want to see that happen suggests burying church a special place. He knows about that's far deeper into the woods and low and behold once that kitty is buried the next day church is back, but it's clear he's not quite himself anymore. That's the basic setup. I guess you can kind of see where things go from there, especially if you know that this is a horror film, but this entry is I mentioned co directed by team of Kevin coche and Dennis whitmire. You know, they've done a few lower budget. Horror films in the past that only I think genre. Aficionados have known about this film. Does rely on a few cheap jump scares, especially involving the nearby road. That trucks seem to Corinne down at breakneck speeds at all hours of the day. It's kind of foreshadowing the tragedy. That's to come the perversity of this premise is. And probably always will be that animals and children are put into the mix as potential victims as well as potential perpetrators violence. Some people in the audience may find that a little bit more uncomfortable to watch than most films in this genre. Whereas the first film tries to give Dacian for the stories nastier moments by exploring a background of grief. Coaltion whitmire offer little bit less of that. And more of the scares in terms of exploiting, the audiences natural fear that the helpless won't escape becoming victims in this world poll of terror anymore than the adults around them performances in pet cemetery. Art, adequate for the material. But I don't think it ever gets to the point where they sell their actions as actually believable given the nature of the horrific events in the extremely questionable character motivations. That were asked to swallow for the sake of pushing the story forward. They don't seem to be as disturbed or horrified by the terrifying, develops as you would expect from people in a similar position, they're seemingly taking reality shattering occurrences, mostly in stride and gloss over the heartache and the tragedy of being forced into this position of harming someone or something that the truly love beyond measure. There's something to be said here about making ones film a little too grounded before these supernatural horror takes over. We're of a my set to start questioning the logic in ways that this interruption of pet cemetery really just does not escape that said the closest thing to a surprise from this film comes from Getafe Lawrence as a young L E, especially as her character begins to experience darker days. She's very good at the role. Once it gets into dark mode, lift go here is as solid as he usually is film. But again, even an actor is skilled as lift go can't make his by his conflicted reasons to which he sets the wheels in motion toward the ruin of others that he claims to care a lot about the film does retain some of the backstory for the characters that also exists in the Stephen King novel as well as the first adaptation, especially when it comes to the mother, Rachel who as a young girl had to attend to her decrepit sister who was miserable and suffering from a debilitating disease at caused in Rachel great fear, especially after a tragic event occurs that causes her to live with a great deal of haunting guilt throughout the rest of her life. Unfortunately, that angle doesn't really get tight in very well with the plot that's delivered in the present day except to give us a few moments of jump scares as Rachel hallucinates tragedy of this key event repeatedly is also the subplot that involves Lewis who's a doctor being spoken to by a gas league. Host who suddenly turns into some sort of narrator in his own mind, and there's really little explanation. Why that that haunting would exist in this film beyond the fact that he's freshly deceased, I guess it does add an additional superfluous jump scare the payoff for all of these side plot elements is really so little it's hardly worth keeping them in the film at all as far as I'm concerned. Now, what's really missing here? From this version of pet cemetery is a sense of either mystery or suspense. It's very obvious where things are going to go right from the outset. And the film does not offer much in the way of twists or turns within this story to keep us on edge as to how things might play out down the road, and that lack of suspense also hampers the ability to swallow some of the very dumb decisions that are made here by Lewis, jed within the film, although to be fair the screenplay by Matt Greenberg, and Jeff bueller does address this depite as some sort of byproduct of so-called crossing the barrier. The cursed land feeds on a person's. Sense of grief that makes them do things that they probably normally wouldn't do when they're in their right mind while it is a handsome production, and it's made with competence. I do think that this version of pets Metairie. It's not as fun as the first effort, and it really doesn't stand out enough on its own to make it worth coming back to if you're familiar with the story, if you're unfamiliar. There are still perhaps too many elements that you've likely already seen digested and other horror movies to not find the goings on to be still predictable. So I would limit the appeal of pet cemetery to just those slash gash enthusiasts who love atmospheric horror movies, even if those horror movies, don't give them much. That's new or noteworthy to ponder from a story or cinema perspective, if you like your familiarity, this definitely gives you that in abundance, and like the resurrected pets that comeback this film looks and feels like the thing that we once love, but something is a little off. Here keeps us at a distance to truly embracing it as. Tagline to this movie says even if it means resurrecting ready told stories to a modern audience, sometimes dead is better even dead properties. So just pet cemetery. So it's not a film that was unwatchable. But I definitely think that it could have been a lot better. I prefer the first version of this film have not read the original Stephen King story. But I do think that you're probably in better hands the reading the book, or at least watching the first film this one I'm going to give it to and a half stars out of four stars. My scale means I do think it had the tools. They have the talent here to actually be worthwhile film for most people. However, it falls short here because of that predictability and the implausibility of the motivations of the characters. Here are just a little bit too much for me to not feel bothered by throughout. And I think that a lot of people who are sensitive to that would probably feel that way as well. So two and a half stars is the best. I can give pet cemetery between nineteen version. Thanks, everyone for listening. I hope that you enjoyed this review. If you wanna get this. Review in text form or you want to read my review of the nineteen eighty nine version of pet cemetery. I doing check that out. It's at my website quick stir dot net. And until next time. Thanks, everyone. Please enjoy a time. Anytime you get to go to the movies.

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Episode 145: Pet Sematary

The Film Buds Podcast

42:35 min | 10 months ago

Episode 145: Pet Sematary

"Yep, everybody welcome back to the film, but it's podcast. This is episode number 145 and my name is Henry note Chloe still this time around. We should say she is taking a little bit of a break from the show. We hope she comes back soon, but she's taking a little bit of time off. However joining us for the second week in a row is Jacob hours. So Jacob man, it's great to see you and thanks for coming back on not a problem at all. I'm happy to be here. This time around we have a review of The Pet Sematary remake from last year 2019. I believe it was and Thursday. We have a listener question concerning our 2020 Halloween movie picks. And then we have a pic of the week. Like I got around to suck scoob after you're you're glowing review of it last week Jacob. I had to see it for myself. So all the usual stuff. Thanks again for joining us. Once again. I'm well, how you doing? How's life? Well, not much to report between last week and this week is pretty much just hanging out. Well, that's cool. I think I'm going to be watching that new Haunting of Hill House season tonight haunting o y Manor. Yeah. Nice. Let me know how that is. I I'm very curious about it looks now where you as big fans of the first season as many people were Yeah, were you actually only saw a little bit of it? You're not a a t v Watcher right now? I did love he did Doctor sleep. I did love that but I haven't seen off of Hill House doctor sleep cool. I guess I'm about the same just busy just been watching a lot of Scooby-Doo recently. So what are you been watching? Oh, yeah. Well, you'll get to it. I'll get into this. This could be do stuff later. Well Jacob anything else you want to mention man before we before we jump in know. All right, let's get to it off. Right? Well, let's get into our review of Pet Sematary from 2019 and we do have a clip. So take a listen. So these are the trade-off. There are warnings the local tribes carved in before they fled fled. Yeah. They knew the power of that place. They felt its pull. I came to believe that those woods belong to something else that the ground was bad. So grounded shower so they moved on but not before they built that Deadfall they built it to keep people out but it didn't keep people out the windigo may just be some crazy folk tale but there is something up there. Pet Sematary is now on Amazon Prime. It is directed by Kevin kolsch and Dennis wide Mayer it Stars Jason Clark Ami pram. It's I'm sure I'm saying that wrong John Lithgow Jetty Lawrence. And that's about it. The synopsis is dr. Louis or is it Louis Dr. Lewis Creed and his wife Rachel relocate from Boston to rural Maine with their two young children the couple soon discover a mysterious burial ground hidden deep in the woods near their new home. So this one is of course based off the Stephen King novel and there was a gay. Original film back. I guess it was in the eighties, which Stephen King novel. I'm just kidding a pet cemetery. And which Jacob have you seen that song? Pet Sematary original the original no actually just saw the Remake. So I'm not qualified to say if it's better or not. So well, we'll get it's just a little bit. I'm actually reading the audio book or listening to the audio book right now. It's red by Dexter Michael C Hall. Oh, really? Yeah, pretty interesting. Well, Jacob you want to kick things off. Are you much of a Stephen King fan? You know, I don't think I don't really know that much about the guy, you know, I mean, I know who he is and I know how famous he is and like his his body body wash his body of work and everything, but I haven't read too many of his books. You know, I really really really enjoyed that it movies the the new ones thumb and I have seen the original as well, which was pretty corny. Don't know why. You know like I've I've seen misery a Stephen King. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and he like Secret Window Christine. Haven't heard of Secret Window. Oh Johnny Depp all you got to get off. Oh, yeah. Enjoy step. Yeah. Yeah. I think I have heard of that. I think I saw that in like a blockbuster when I was I was home a young sounds about right said some of our viewers might not even know. What a blockbuster is. Yeah. All right, P true. Well, what do you think of this remake? I think I did it tells a story. Yeah, I'm like, I haven't seen the originals. I don't really there's a lot of comparative analysis that I can do. But I mean it from what I know of the story poem. I think that you know, I just think it's like a pretty standard part movie like nothing to write home about in my opinion, you know, like it's I enjoyed a lot of people didn't you know, it was a lot of dissent out there, you know, people are picky. But I mean, I thought it was decently entertaining. I like the concept, you know, conceptually, I like the idea of Of Pet Sematary John Lithgow. He's cool. Great, you know, so yeah, I don't know. Maybe what do you think maybe you can you can start you can talk about it a bit and sort of jog jog some some things out of me sure. Am I actually didn't see the original until after I saw the Remake? Yeah, and I like that one a fair bit. I don't love it. I know it's a bit of a cult classic. So I I didn't know a whole lot going into this one. I I saw it back in the theaters actually overall. I don't really overall. I don't oh my God, I can't talk over all go for it. Then overall. I don't really like the movie. I think it as you said it kind of falls into the pretty standard remake. It's the mentality of hear this. Very well known source material is much better and more financially smart or take on some original story. It doesn't really offer anything new from the original and what is there is very shallow. I think it's kind of brushes through things very quickly and by the end it just turns into a pretty standard slasher. I think the main emotional moment of the movie and the concept of the movie work early well about someone having to live out the worst case scenario of loss. I think that part of the movie works. Well, I do like the pet cemetery off visual. However, I think it's so frustratingly underdeveloped like the whole funeral procession with the kids. Done nothing with and I think it's almost there for the trailer. Like I remember that from the trailer and being intrigued but then you don't really learn anything about that and I think it's not horrible. It's not offensive. I'm not upset. I watched it Jacob. I I just think it's pretty it's a stinker. Yeah, so it's pretty mediocre. Yeah, I think you know, some people are pretty bracing about it. But you know, I like reading reviews of things. You know, me too. I've got a letter box account go on there. Every people's reviews working people follow you Jacob. Oh, they can follow me veni vidi vici. That's my name on there now. I don't take too much stock in people people's reviews on letterboxd and I think people can be pretty picky pretty pretty pretentious. But uh, you know, sometimes it's dead. Sometimes it's fun. You know, like we got what was it a lifeless regurgitated fluff about as entertaining as watching one of my life to Norwegian Forest cats open their mouths to expel along perfectly formed hairball, very colorful who said that was a shutout her Holly her she's very famous on litter box. Oh, wow. Got a site those sources if she if she happens to be listening off. She she's famous for having watched every single horror movie in existence. Hm. I don't know if I buy that but okay. But there's only like eight thousand or something. Yeah mean, it's not that many ya gotta watch the Cabinet of dr. Caligari like the first horror movie ever made, right? Yeah. It's a cool movie supposedly. Yeah with the movie I guess the modern mentality is with films is to either take the story and bloat it beyond belief fact or to trim it down to the Bare Essentials, which both can work in a way this one tends to cling more towards the latter. It just doesn't offer anything in substitute for what it cuts like and so you ask like, okay. Are you going to offer updated modern effects, you know extreme Gore again. It did not really have either of those. So then you are forced to look at the the the original film which is better not a masterpiece, but it is better and then I'll even just at the source material itself, which is much more fleshed-out from what I've I haven't finished it Jacob I could be Telling Tales out of school, but I it's more meaty. Do you have just finished it? The audio but now I have finished the movie. Yes. Sorry. Okay, I'm listening. That's okay. I'm trying I have about an hour's left track order dinner at the same time. Oh, what you what you getting some Panera? Oh nice. I like a good Panini for sure. What else Jacob any anything else? Come to mind. Do you like Jason Clark? Jason Clark? Yeah solid. Yeah solid guy. I'd I'd get a drink with them. Yeah, Romana off. The score is pretty solid. It one of those movies that I really enjoyed watching the trailer more than the movie very much. So movies keep doing that to me these days to keep pull the rug out from under me, you know, they I see the trailer and I'm like, wow that trailer was fantastic, you know, like what a wonderfully crafted trailer dramatic didn't give too much away really good music really good and scenes picked out, you know, and then you go see the movie and you're like the the hell was that man like that was nothing like half the stuff in the trailer is not even there. Yeah, you know, it's like so often, you know, it's kind of like a tricking me. I understand their movie. but I'd watch it again. Maybe that's a hot take but yeah, I mean re-watching it. I I wasn't hating myself like, you know, I am it's decently entertaining. But again, I think it's just quite shallow and very few memorable moments and it just does not explore those ideas. Well that brings up so I do like John Lithgow quite a quite a bit. The girl is good Jetty Lawrence. She's she's solid the little girl dog will growl that comes back to life. Yeah. Oh and the cat is amazing as well. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. There's a lot of praise for the cat in the eighties one. But God is good to this one's good. We got appraised a animal actors, you know, they they put the work in. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to think if there's anything else worth mentioning from a atmosphere point of view. It's consistent. Like it it it creates a good mood for the most part. It's just by the end you're kind of waiting for something big to happen something new to shock you and and nothing really does. You know and then you just just think there there are animals out there that make more money than we do. It's very true. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there are many considering my income has you know, there's cats and dogs birds and and tigers out there then just making bank. Yeah. I mean, I'm very very jealous. All right, man. Well anything else about pets page Terry not feeling you know, it's like I didn't have a lot to say about it, but All right. Well Jacob out of five, I'll go 2 and 1/2 3 3. All right, always always the the positive precedent. Yes. I saw your scoop start writing on on letterboxed. Was that like a three or something? Yeah, three out of five years. I've sort of fallen into this pattern of like giving most things five stars and then if there's like one thing I don't like it gets four stars and then every Everything below that margin is just three stars unless it's a very horribly offensive to me then it gets like one star Yeah, also don't give half star ratings. It just bothers me. I mean, I give half star ratings like like one light like just a half Starbucks won't give 1/2 to have 3 half for half. I don't do that cuz that's it. Just it doesn't feel symmetrical to me bothers me Pura mu ya purest huh? Maybe whole whole Stars. Okay. Well that that's good to know. I did not know that about you Jacob. I'm glad we've well have that out on the on the show. It's on record on the on the flip side of that. I have a friend who wishes that let her box had a had star ratings to the point one so he could give things one one point one or one point eight or like yeah, it's nice one too. It's too bad. You can't just do zero for a movie Yes, like what if something? I guess that's when you just don't rate a movie, you know. Yeah, although I mean to be fair friend of this show Sky who has his own show. He does things out of Tim can handle it. I still just can't reason with him can't do it. I feel like that's kind of why I give so many things like like I don't know I give I give a lot of five star ratings, but if you asked me if you took those movies that I give five star ratings too. And you say would you give us a 10 out of 10? I don't necessarily know if I would say, yes, somehow somehow like five or five feels as a feel the same right doesn't feel the same as 10 out of 10 to me. I don't know. No, I agree. It's all right. It's arbitrary, right? Yeah doesn't matter. All right. Well, let's let's get onto our listener question. So the film buds podcast. You can reach us at all. So Facebook Twitter and Jacob on Instagram at film but Instagram know. Yeah, and so, please follow us there. If you have not yet, you know, a lot of cool stuff going on joined the film buds mailing list at the film buds.com. It's just one email week and you can stay up-to-date with you know, new shows all that good stuff Jake, I know you're on it. Thank you for that. I appreciate it or you were the last time I checked I am still him cool today. It is payday. So so I might finally get around to getting that film buds merch which everyone should check out. What wow. Yeah. Yeah film buds merch at the phone box, check that out just goes to help support the show join our patreon patreon, the buds. So all that cool stuff. All right. Well, so the one we have this week is from Woody. I think we may have actually had one from Woody before and his question is simple. He says question. What are your thoughts be twenty Halloween movie packs? Okay. So this one like movies that came out in 2020. No, I think it seems more. So what are you watching? What are you watching around this time? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I mean we we we don't have much to offer if it's you know, it's just released around this time. Sorry. She she'll be Halloween. Yeah, we have yeah. Yeah. Well Jacob you've as you've said last week you're watching a lot of action films on shudder any ones that come to mind is a bunch of new stuff that's been releasing on there that I haven't gotten around to to watching, but I pretty much have it. Just a a big ol horror movie marathon from from like July to to current hm. Well, well, what are some ones that stand down? This movie on Amazon Prime called ganji Haunted Asylum. Oh, it's Korean found-footage. And it's a good group of Japanese teenagers that are viral video entrepreneurs. They they want to they don't want to get become famous live streamers. So they go to this haunted Asylum off and turns out that two of them are like faking the the The Haunting reviews, but then it turns into a real haunting right watch the original Poltergeist recently that way great post that that Zoom Harley. Yeah. I haven't seen that very interesting this movie called haunt. Just definitely everyone should check out very very good. It's on shudder exclusively, I think. How much they asking per month you get a trial free trial get a free trial. Yeah. Otherwise, it's $7 a month. That's not too bad. I've I've definitely got the constant usage out of like, you know, I could go on I mean like, you know, like I've seen so many Germany so many movies this other exclusive movie. It's a Spanish movie called terrified. That's a really good horror movie. I feel like I'm like, I'm pulling out all these sort of obscure ones, you know, they're like, that's okay. I mean, you know, I've also I also re-watched Nightmare on Elm Street wage recently, you know, like Halloween sure Season of the Witch the best Halloween Movie package of Got in this this classic argument for my friends about how Friday the 13th. Jason Takes Manhattan is his favorite part of the 20th movie and I said, it's it sucks because Jason's not even in Manhattan until like five minutes at the end of the movie. He spends most of your movie on a boat and some reason that pisses him off. I don't know like a man. Yeah, Jason Takes Manhattan has nothing to do with Manhattan diehards. Not a Christmas movie. I'm sorry. It's not relaxed. So young girl on the third floor got a check. Is that on Netflix? Yeah movies whack. Maybe like it's it's pretty it's pretty wild. I watched that and it gave me a new appreciation for for life Wow, Jesus birth. I was like, I was like I've not I've not seen something that refreshing in a long time. It's it's it's just so unique and interesting. So weird and bizarre professional wrestlers CM Punk starring La it's it's just something it's quite something to behold. Okay. Well, I mean, I'm very curious now actually I might have to give it a poke watching Hellraiser movies Phantasm movies gingersnaps or a movie package work really good movie. That's it's actually pretty funny too about a man that kidnaps inverters three women and sells them all together to make the wage. Pic woman hm. Sounds delightful Jake. It's it's it's better than it sounds that sounds pretty horrific. But it actually turns out to be pretty funny. It's it's actually turns out to be very empowering to you know, you wouldn't think I'm a man kidnapping and murdering women and sewing them together would be very empowering but no it turns out to be in, Okay, I'll take your word for it off. Yeah. I mean like, you know, like I could I could keep listing them. But you know, that's if you're if you're a horror fan check out shutter cuz that's that's most of what I've been watching is some shooter. I watched your Blue-ray copy of us, which I still have. Cuz like oh it was brilliant. Yeah. Yeah, I like, you know, well, I borrowed that from you just before we went into worldwide lockdown. So yeah man games I still am but that's that's of sorry. I keep interrupting. You know, I was just going to say that's about it for me. So you're fine. You're fine. Well, I'm not someone who really like Thursday some people have like, you know, 31 days of Halloween things like that where they kind of plan out what they're going to watch. I don't really have that. I'm very much I I decide in the moment. I'm like, oh, hey, I'll watch this I'll watch that and so as I said at the top of the show, I've been watching I've been reliving my childhood here with Scooby-Doo films mostly from the 90s and 2000's. I highly recommend Zombie Island the Alien Invaders. Those are both great Cyberchase was okay, ma'am. Scare I'm halfway through its all right, it's got some cool Camp Vibes. Love Cyberchase. Yeah, then I owe the Witch's Ghost you get the Hex Girls in there. That's cool. So I would I would highly recommend any of those really it's been very fun to go back and watch those movies over other than that off again. I I don't have a lot of specific choices really I've been made in the mood to watch some blumhouse movies, maybe get into some of the ones I haven't seen yet some of the shittier ones like, you know, there's like, I haven't seen Truth or Dare or some of the Paranormal Activity sequels. And so I might just kind of break down and watch those poor Mouse's so Prolific, I guess it's just a way of like, you know, like they they make what one of my Purdue their production coming, right? They they produce get out and then they produce like Truth or Dare and you're like, you know such such a qualitative difference there. Yeah, and even though they're not amazing. I'm a big Purge fan. I like I like average like the Amish. I've only seen two of them. But you know, what did the new one come out about how many are there for for you? And there's a show as well. There's like Purge the island or something. It was about well, no, that one's coming out next year. So that one's about like The the conceptualization the invention of the purge or something, right? Well, they're so the the most recent one was the first Purge and that was the that was like a prequel right? And so then the the one next year I'm not totally sure what the story is. But the most recent loan was solid. You see, I don't know it kind of It kind of just got a little a little crazy. Not that that's bad. But I like the first two cuz you know, the first one is like people like locked inside their house on The Purge and then there's people trying to get in a very solid concept and then the second one is just like the reverse of that like someone gets stuck outside during The Purge which is like the other half of it, you know, it's like also a solid concept and then the third one is like save the president like whoa what happens it's like but yeah, I was looking at my diary here on letterboxd March 8th The Invisible Man dead. The last movie I saw before movie theater days ended. Yeah, Chloe and I saw that one for the show. Yeah. That was the last one we saw and then I think underwater was one of the young ones as well had I not seen the Invisible Man and then the last movie I saw in theatres would have been Sonic the Hedgehog. So what a brilliant film glad I got in office where I could you know, I actually enjoyed Sonic the Hedgehog. Did you I know a lot of people did it was it defied expectations wage? I don't know. I would love to know what those expectations were just just wasn't going to be good. Yeah, that's fair enough. That's I mean it got fairly good reviews. I'm not, you know can't pass judgment. I'm one of those people that I'm I'm suspicious, you know, I think I think they made that awful Sonic design as a way to generate press and then they log Listened to the fans and redid it. I'm making air quotes. Yeah, you know, I wouldn't be surprised. I think it was all a big a big press down. Like when when have you ever heard of that happening with a movie with they spend like Millions re doing something just because people whined about it enough that never happens. I think it was always happen. Yeah, but then again, maybe I'm just a crazy conspiracy theorist cuz that is a huge waste of money if that's the case. I don't know. Who knows. Yeah, who knows? Hey, hey, they had me at the Ramones song. They play in the trailer, you know. Oh, yeah. I'm just remembering all these movies. I saw in theatres now Birds of Prey JoJo rabbit off the Turning such a forgettable movie. I never I never saw it. It's it's you should watch it. I kind of want to weirdly. I know Spielberg executive produced it the ending is it's what's going on then make any sense. It's a real purge scenario. Yeah, it's directed by the when they did The Runaways. Oh cool. Yeah. Yeah, I figure you gave you know what that is. Yeah. Yeah. I guess that's that's about it for the choices. I mean we could go on and on and on but I think that's Jacobs. I mean given you plenty. I mean, I I haven't seen like any of those so I'm going to be pretty busy. All right. Well, I guess we can well first first of all, thanks again for the email Woody and again the film buds podcast at gmail.com is where you can reach us at so please send us any questions comments. We love hearing from people if you've listened to the show for a long time or if you're a first-time listener, please let us know any thoughts you have about anything really Jake walking away. So I guess we can end off with our pick of the week Jacob. Would you like to kick kick it off or shut off others your cat. Yeah he is. Nice haven't actually seen anything since Enola Holmes. But as I said before I'll be watching The Haunting apply Manor tonight. Yeah, so there's that. But yeah, I've been pretty locked down. You know, it would do student work. And yeah, oh your your life so glow yeah, you're canceled. I just watched that like like last month. I was like, I just finished re-watching all of community and I was like, wow, I want to watch something else that has like these actors in it. And I knew the Alison Brie was in glow and I was like, I I for a long time I was like I've started that interested in that. I don't know it wasn't like an interesting to me. But I was like, you know what I'll give it a shot and I was like the show's fucking amazing. It was like I was like I really slept on this show like this like it was so incredibly well-crafted brilliant. Brilliant. Brilliant acting. I don't know how Betty Gilpin was the only person that got nominated for an Emmy all all four years or all three years or whatever because she's a supporting actress. I mean, I feel like like Marc Maron and Alison Brie definitely deserved and he's like, it's it's it is such a good show and I was like, wow, I can't wait for season four and then they were just like we're reversing our renewal and I was like, what is this shit? I was like Netflix. Like I was like the entertainment industry never fail to disappoint me. It's just a bunch of men in suits making terrible decisions. Yeah, it's just I mean look at Dark Crystal last year. I'm pissed that was like one of my favorite shows. Yeah, so I'm dead. And they're just they're just like, oh it's like cuz I know they had like the they had the first episode of Season 4 filmed and ready to go and and they were like trying to and then and then home and Democrats. So they've been trying to sort of find any way to get back to filming especially because wrestling is such an intimate, you know thing like they'd have to be in very close proximity, there wouldn't really be an easy way to social distance. It just be like very complicated and so there were like, oh we'll just cancel it and like the like just just wait like they said that they were concerned that they wouldn't be able to get season 4 up and running until at least like twenty twenty two or Twenty twenty-three and they they figured that like, there'd be no viewership at Thursday would be there would be no fanbase. I'm like anyone anyone that's watching the show now is going to watch season 4, even if it comes out in like two years. Yeah like a game. Yeah, that that is very bad large. You have a built-in you have a built-in fan base. Like people aren't just going to drop off of being fans of your show just because like people who put a Revival up of something that went off the air ten years ago. Every fan comes crawling out of the woodwork. I mean, I don't know. I just don't get it. No, not perfectly right man. It's not bologna. I will never ever work on in the business sector of entertainment like a bunch of parasites. That's that's how I said man. Well, yeah. So am I was just thinking about that that decision recently cuz it was really disappointing to see that you know, I I I wish I wish there was a way for them to You know cuz this is the first show this happened to obviously where things have sort of already been in the works are you know stuff's already been filmed and they've just canceled it. You know that could at least say you think they could at least like release scripts online or something for fans to read, you know, like like I imagine they have most of the Season written already. So like, you know, like just let us read it. You know, I mean charge us to read it for God's sake. I don't know like I mean like if you want to get some money out of it, I I mean, I know that they they apparently paid all the actors for a full season even even though they didn't film it so they all got paid in full but there's their season for salary. That's a good deal. So Man Netflix though. Welcome kill. Yeah. I hope you know maybe they'll buy something for me one day. Maybe we'll just have to bury dead. But yeah after listening to this show but but fuck him. Yeah. Oh no, I'm with you there man. I mean, I'd love to sell something to Netflix. I think I think it'd be very easy to to get Netflix to buy something because they they they can do it. They kind of go nuts over the original content, you know, so yeah. Yeah noticed put one that one out there. So then cancel it. Yeah, you know how many things die after one season on Netflix a lot of things. Yeah, I mean, I'm you're not wrong man. You're not wrong and they put movies out there that we talked about like an older homes. Brilliant wage. Yeah. Well Jacob, I mean thank you for just laying it all out on the table here. Yeah got a little off topic there, but it's okay. Well, yeah. Well, I guess I've talked enough about Scooby-Doo SWAT scoop was not great. Not that's that's what we were on. Yeah. Yeah, so I'll talk about I re-watched the social network is on Netflix and there's the the new David Fincher trailer for mank that just came out and yeah, I re-watched The Social Network and it is still down just as amazing as it always was I think it gets better every time it's electric dare. I say it the scores incredible Jesse Eisenberg. I don't love him all the time. He is fan off. Mexican this I mean the saying all this is what has already been said about the movie plenty, but it's so compelling so intricate and complex. It's really dead a fantastic movie in one of my favorites. So if you have not seen it yet. You gotta Jacob. Are you you a fan of this one? Yeah that said Justin Timberlake movie, right? You got it wage. That's all I was paying attention to. Yeah. No, I I saw that a few years back after avoiding it for a long time. I don't really know why I just are supposed to know it was just one of those things where I was like, you know, I don't think I'd be into that and then I watch it. I'm like, I'm you know, how how did I miss this? You know, so I don't know like it's great man. It was a college scholarships expecting it to be like any other I don't know. I guess you'd call it a biopic, right? Yeah, and those typically have like a pretty similar formula and a lot of them are kind of saccharine. Not very good. And I guess I kind of expected it to be like that but Actually, you know, I mean, it's been chairman. I don't know I underestimated him. Hm. So yeah, cuz he kind of he kind of like he he kind of avoided the biopic formula he made he made a really solid just like movie like, you know had like a a filmic structure. It wasn't just like a like this sort of a fictional biography. I mean like it was but like it didn't come off that way. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah for sure. You want to you want to do a Scooby-Doo special show off, please. I would love to review all those movies. I would love to honestly, I mean they're they're fun fun time. So I would be all for it all for it. I mean there's a lot I mean like we're just going to do like the we can pick and choose like the standard ones, you know, cuz the classics yeah, cuz you have like the classics set. But then you have like the ones with scrap you do in them which like a different site and then you have Cyberchase was like the beginning of the end for like the next hundred Scooby-Doo movies. You know, there's like a WWE Superstars Scooby-Doo with John Cena. Yes, you know, it's it gets it gets crazy. Yeah. No. No, I'm I'm living it right now ma'am off. But no I would honestly I would love to so well, we'll have that one will give people a little teaser that you know for what's to come. All right. Well, I guess that's about it. Took me Jake a man anything else you want to mention? Hello? All right, cool. So I guess that about does it for the show this week now next week. I'm not totally sure Jacob. You're welcome to come back on love having you on man Ang. So not totally sure just yet about what film we're going to be doing. We may try and stay on the horror train for the time being and so yeah, just stay updated on social media all that good stuff and again the film buds.com you get on that mailing list if you haven't yet. It's really cool. Okay. Well Jacob man, you know, it's always it's nice to see you Thursday. It's great having me on and I hope you come back soon. Yeah, I hope to heck. Yeah, man. Yeah. Yeah, it's, you know a little easier way to Log on to Zumba needed to drive on out to Hillsboro. So it is which which let me say very much appreciate when you have done that. I know it's a bit of a drive. So not a problem. All right. Well, yeah everybody we sure hope you enjoyed it as much as we did and we'll see you next time.

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#352 - Stephen Merchant, Florence Pugh, Jason Clarke

The Empire Film Podcast

1:51:27 hr | 2 years ago

#352 - Stephen Merchant, Florence Pugh, Jason Clarke

"Finally on the Papa gas this week. It's another incredible hatching of guests. I were chatting not fighting with fighting with my family director, Steven merchant and his star Florence Pugh only. Call him the rock can I like if I see him I'm going to cool him Dwayne. And then we talk football and audiobooks with the aftermaths Jason Clark strategy next to good Irish action. Very tough all that and more movie podcast at just had its first cat cream egg of the year. Other cream eggs are available heliport. I'm Chris you and welcome to the unprepared cast this week. Helena harra is offered in the marathon right now literally as we speak. I think she's just about to finish it. So it is apart from producer. Jan of course, I lo- producer. Jane? Once feeling producer. Jane very much better. It is swinging sausage fest. My two colleagues such lethal coming this week include. And again, I'm touched that he's he's deigned to come on her podcast. He is a mega famous worldstar is a global figure. He is the star of drastic world. He's not the star traffic were fallen kingdom. But he is the star of drastic world three. Edmonds revenge, Nick December. How're you unconfirmed? But but definitely happening. Good. I just swing by with my entourage today. To update you on some Jurassic world news, and your your own is James Dyer, an producer chain. Yeah. I mean, the others around. I mean that just colleagues people that you've been a room with it's not really an entourage. Visit. So this world news. There's going to be a short film. This is exciting. I don't think it can wait for the section. I generally don't know this new so please. So there is going to be Jurassic world live action short playing before Hobson shore the summer. What's? Yes. Like a Pixar. Dinosaurs. How missed this. Why don't you saying us it world stars? We have an internal network of news there. Tap great. Yeah. This short is going to feature a brand new dinosaur species. Oh god. Media source Rex I'm going to attempt Sam gonna merger at like, can we moded Nasu suit territory. I think he'd is summoned a demon. Are you an I can't confirm that I've go there's a lot of paperwork. Ed been might be writing the Nasu ups or might be a film about him learning how to pronounce it. Now, if I'm not watch that. Absolutely. What's that? Anyway. So welcome Nickless fantastic. And also in the podcast this week is another global figure an icon. If you will you don't you don't like it when I say, oh James here, which is nice. I guess, but when I start giving you big introduction your to give you the side is so. I'm waiting for the sting in this. That's gonna be the buffing of some kind of jokes genuine, no state. I am reaching out the hand of friendship. Okay. He's figure he is an icon. He is revered wherever he goes mainly by himself. But he is the host of schools. The pillock TV podcast is that. Right. Pillock more or less every week James joined by two pillars disgusts. TV? Is that I understand roughly. That's what the podcast is about road, Lee speaking. Okay, listening to it. And it's better than this one. Do you know that we have a new segment starting in the politics podcast this week, whereby redes- send in specific episodes of comedy shows for me to explain in excruciating detail widened find them funny because could be classics stunk class have changed my mind. Listen to the pilot TV post words, okay? That's very exciting. People who kind of course, find the pilot TV podcasts in skips mainly blow. Archie podcasts. Skips a night June's wherever it is that you you want to check it out. I just want to have a quick chat about well Cremades because I did genuinely just have my first cream of the year. I've a question for you about cream X. Why? Yeah. Exactly that there's no circumflex on should be creme egg. Surely, you know. You don't call them. Huzzah, David Simon TV show pronounced marine brewlights right cream broody. Yes. So should be criminal. Creole this. Now, I don't know shoot. We first of all for our listeners around the world who may not know cream eggs are because I'm the states a couple of times. I don't think that sitting over there. So over here in the UK, we have these incredible things called cat breeze cream eggs, so their eggs filled with a sort of yellow and white Fontaine and his absolutely incredible. But the best here's the best to you get the cream egg. You stick it in the fridge stick in the fridge overnight. You take that bad boy out and it's hard to eat. Yes. Yet to bite into crunch into it. And it may be breaks your teeth now again, but as totally fine because it's much more pleasurable experience. I don't like it. When the the font inside uses over your fingers, Nick was your cremate gain, you suddenly jigsaw. I'd forgotten. They existed into. Or this. For about ten years. And now, I told you to. I won't net. One not essential experience the way you describe it rapid you can do things with your tongue that frankly should be banned at least thirty eight. You're putting me off not just cream eggs, but chocolate and food in general. Anyway, here's the question. We have questions we have a question that's of a question. And the question is fire Twitter and his from at leaf Dave David Hamilton filed the Twitter's and he asks would you recommend staying up to watch the Oscars any tips to enhance slash endure, the experience or particular things to watch out for and Dave you've come the right place because we are the kings of Stein up the Oscars we've done it for many, many wonderful years quite often together as the empire tame this year. I'm up staining as Nick leaving me, and John I'm having I'm having a nap city. Because I plan to sleep. Right. I was at least now I'm not staying up. I cannot get excited about this year's Oscars. I'm sorry. I feel that by staying up all night to watch his I'm putting in at least seventy percent morph at than the actual academy for this. My my best Oscar I would say is two thousand I'm gonna guess around two thousand two I have to look up when crossroads came out. But. I stayed up in the office. And I had so many cups of tea. I was caffeinated off my tits and the train who tried to go to bed spent two hours trying failed. So good up went back into London. An interview Britney Spears. Wow. What a day. Yeah. That go down. I mean, I don't have a great deal of recollection. But I'm sure it was loved judging for her. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. We still used to you know, we still will coverage would be on the empire website this weekend dot com on Sunday night. Under be Twitter's and twin oaks. Life blows shoes. And I won't be fun. I mean, I've never really stayed up the your skills much, but the bundle phone is probably the biggest endurance test. I've done we we did forty four hours to anybody. Footy four hour straight of bond movies, which included seventeen hours of Roger Moore uninterrupted. Broke me because that film is almost free hours. An hour space battle in slow motion. And I remember that just walking we were on the street at that point just walking around the plaza. And smoking was a plaza and hooks for street where where did you walk? I don't know. It was so. I remember I remember when we go into the Tim. We go into the points and my brain stopped being able to link shots together. So I could look at the screen and sees it was happening relates it the next show, and I was remember we had a tub of instant coffee from the kitchen, and I was just rubbing into my comes at that point. You're welcome. In a in a crime movie. Cocaine. Comes. I think I'll put some in my eyes. I don't know if that's a tip helped. But you're welcome to that's amazing for people who don't know what Nick's talking about in two thousand six and the run up to the release of casino royale, and everyone was really excited about this brand new bond, we decided to do a Thon, so Nick myself and Sam toy who used to work at empire and used to shoot and cut all the video blog zones will be we did. And if you don't know what they are check out the magazine YouTube page, and you see some absolute lunacy from back in the day from the Ken festival kamikaze of the. But anyway, so we decided to watch all twenty bond films in a row in tuxedos. We dressed up in tuxedos. And we we did it in the lobby of one of the floors at our building. And it was it was hell on earth in front of fish tank shaking heads at us, even the fish her three fish committed suicide during slamming. I remember you talked to a nutritionist beforehand. Yes. He didn't interview of a nutritionist, and she gave you which you and you and Sam KFC buckets of chicken like I'm surprised on his diet that weekend is just horrendous. I should like a fast food again. But we wanted to all twenty films in a row with a five minute break teach film, and every three films who would take a twenty minute break. And the idea was you know, you would not sleep. But listener, I must confess I did a little sleep. I think which one I don't recall the world's enough until I don't recall, what's another cinema. It was. It was just blank didn't sleep. And I just want to put on the record. So just a wheel bat to the question. We your yes, you're not gonna you're not going to watch. That's kremlin. You're not actually going to what she Oscars now. You're going to sleep you might get up during the night. Maybe and check out the livestream. Sorry strimmer at some point in the nights. Yes. I won't. But the last time I did this last time. I skipped the Oscars was the year that the moonlight LA La Land control. So maybe I will pick in another equally Goodyear to ignore. Yeah. But in terms of tips, I mean, there aren't really any tips just sleep in late on the day sleeping late in the Sundays. Don't get up at stupidly. So at seven eight o'clock. So by the time, you get to one AM when the thing actually kinda starts, then you're actually a bit compliment to be fine drink, lots of stuff that you know, kinda keep you up but not too much caffeine wage, and we'll get you won't get sleep at six or seven AM. Unfairly was watching all the on Sunday Sunday check it out at an per magazine on Twitter an empire line dot com. Okay. If you wanna have your question, right out amp podcast and treated with respect. It deserves. You can get in touch fine number methods. We're on Twitter at implementing seen use hashtag. And propelled cast as leaf Dave did much to his cost. You can Facebook as well were empire Zine, and you can Email us podcast at empire. Online dot C. O M how exciting. Okay. Time now for our first guest. And again, you might be wondering why we have three guests this weekend. Again, it's my fault. Because I forgot that we have a live show next week. We're going to be at the Glasgow film festival next week. So therefore, the guests I had booked for next week show had to be brought forward to this week seems fair seems simple. It's a nice problem to have quite frankly. Our first guest is weak is a straight actor who could be seen in next week's drama, the aftermath about a British Colonel and his wife moved the Hamburg in the immediate aftermath of World War Two only for her to fall in love with a local man whose house they have taken over the local German men. In fact, a cure nightly plays the wife on sounder scars guard is the bit a rough and Jason Clark is the cuckolded British officer. And Clark is our guest is weak. He has made an impact all kinds of movies over the last few years from zero dark thirty two Don or rise of behaves. I'm never quite sure. Which one it is. And I had a blast chat with him about history football. A my old obsession Australian actress who could. Accents. I will say this is the interview I did onto our sleep. And I pretty sure you can tell enjoy. We're delighted to be joined on the podcast by the quite jet. Lied. Very jet. Lagged impossibly jet liked Clark on the scale of a little jet lag. But I'm okay, you know, go to national warm little Kashmir on them to treat myself gently, and you've got my smooth view, and you two AM trip back. You know? After after a hard foot drawer at home. It was it wasn't. It wasn't fun. It wasn't fun. Chipotle thailand. Everyone. Just hold. Yeah. Get backed up Liverpool fans. I tell you what it did do though. I binge watched Barry on the on the coast. Have you seen that show? Bill O man, check it out you binge want stuff. Jason how you while away the jet lagged hours long flights. What do you what do you do? Big on. Audible I love really. Yeah. I really do. I love a good book, particularly will read. Okay. Good history book, usually. Okay. I'm good novels depends reading it though. Binge-watch is. Well, it's a great way to binge is a funny word, but it's a great way to what you number of episodes at the same time. So take away the the drama of the edit or like, you gotta tune in next week on a thing or you know, you just let it go over in wash. Yeah. Absorb it. So I love to watch that. Yeah. You're being Catherine the great, yes. For sky binge-watching has changed the way that the shows are made chose us to end on a huge cliffhanger comes. Now, it's the cabbie like that. But we're gentleness with Catherine the great made with that in mind with binging a mind. Or is it very much do come back next week? No come back next week, some she's only Catherine too good. Now this week. She was Catherine the mediocre come back next week. No, it's you know, it's it's cut together. Like, a big massive movie. Big grand, David lean movie. You know, awhile. Yeah. But you know, the director Philip was English and he's just on my God. So impressive. Really? Yeah. You know, when you want big, and, you know, you having to make decisions about your shots, or you know, of this crying is gonna take off you die. But you want it. You know, you got to know what you're doing. Because you you you can't drop anything that Daggs. You're moving on says, it's just the preciseness, which is wonderful. What do you look for in a director, for example, James Kent with this movie with the aftermath somebody who's gonna, you know, be my captain, my captain, you know, someone that you'd be willing to stand on the desk for at absolutely absolutely. You know, and. You know? Yeah. I guess letroy somebody that's going to allow you enforce you to build stupid and make mistakes and go off to something, you know. And and encourage you, and you know, it's it's a it's a, you know, it's you're there to serve them. But you know, you shouldn't be not the should make you feel like you had to make them happy. You know? It's it's it's a I think, you know, in any kind of auto there is no right and wrong. But it's not. Apple. The only matters if it goes in the back of the net is what he wanted to matters. Possessing nail to kneel. How'd you how'd you assess with director d do you have time? Did you go for lunch with directors? Did you meet chains beforehand, you essentially, or is it just in the tool that a lot get it from you know, you get it from the script and be from other people involved and then essential -bility just having a chat. And then you know, when you work you and folded you go along. Know it comes down to trust the end of the day. Which is why always had a hard time with additioning and all that because it's like there was no sense of giving trust to get trust. So I was always hanging on like livable's was hanging onto it quite tightly. Squeeze. But she's I felt resentful about opening myself up. If if somebody else wasn't there in home you'd go in for your. Rejection immediately. Leadership company kept some of this going to you know, you you've got to give trust to get trough. It's it's a fine line. You know, even into Optima because he we're enjoying you've got to extend the hand if you want these people to build and come back and befriend you don't go from destroying each other. And obliterating each other to you know, to wear Germany are now being providing great leadership, I think in the world and on a number of things with their own issues. Of course, after something Riddick will without a bunch of people reaching out, both, you know, putting it out and accepting that handed in and decided to come together because it very easily could have been a lot of the nation's had just ongoing conflicts for hundreds and hundreds of years. Yeah. As you know, it's a it's a very timely movie. In a lot of ways. Though is well like, you know, everyone, you know, what is the, you know, what's the point? When you want people to take away was like, you know. You know, it's it's it's a time and obits art, and hopefully, it's both, you know, and histories prologue. Anyway, you know, since when we had such disrespect for history that we no longer consider it essential to learn it. Extra wonderful good embed that looking at how he stressed being written in what they want to teach in schools. Now, we go back and look at things education is important, and and you shouldn't mess with it lightly because you know, as as their problems it has worked as well. Saw it in the world is benefit a lot. So, but you know, history is kind of like forgotten, you know, and it's it's it causes timely. We don't in the is this the worst of the time in history. We went far from it. You know, we we stand with so much benefit yeses. As is that things to sit by enough. Course there massive big things to do and. Yeah. But it's it's silly to think that every generation every thing is not going to have causes, and you know, and choices to make and time to define as crazy. I mean, my my parents I grew up in the second World War. My dad was just about old enough to tell me about things like bomb shelters and the air this irons going off, and you know, the blackouts and. Because I'm gonna Stroud him in don't have that connection in the history from it as well. But of always interesting that, you know, I guess things joke about the English stiff upper lip and that and all that. And it is there I get it. But there's a sense of also of doing their job a sense of commitment of sense of taking person responsibility. And Lewis in this film, in modern always he's wonderful humanitarian any might have been saying, he's not. But he was also guy that just did his job and by doing job in being human econ in this movie Kalki fourteen year old girl. So this just this just some basics of it's easy to put them into something. But you know, what? Yeah, we didn't have PTSD. And maybe they it was good about or whatever. But they got on with it. And these people did extraordinary things in the small little window of of putting this putting neighbors a nations that oh my God had so much reason to heighten punish again. Yeah. I mean, this is a period of history that young Hollywood movies have covered World War Two in great depth. But this has been covered the aftermath will happen to be the after the war in terms repatriation. That's always very very that's very interesting. Did you see land? Mine did see that wonderful film seeing thought about that these boys, you know, extrordinary. Yes. He is resolved who had enough of World War Two. It's come on. Really as a as a history of somebody's listened to history stuff on audible, his love, it is that when the chief appeals of of a movie legless as well, of course, miniature strategy, and you, you know, you don't you regret watching these BBC period Pacers minutes want, my sheep farming doors at kind of, you know. Busty with the motion. But I'll have a Cup of tea instead, you know, standing around in the rain, you know, those fields, you know. Yeah. Not just boring, you know puppets, the stores inside. And I'm getting ready for Catherine the great there was some extraordinary books. Some seabeds book on the Romanovs mean, you know, the mad saw the terrible. I mean, they're incredible tales within the tiles of such you know, robustness and insanity and slaughter and human and funniness. I mean, it was just crazy. It's wonderful. You know what I mean? It's better than fiction at times. Anyway, you know, when you get a good reader, Frederick Davidson was reading the was reading the the Peter the great wonderful sense of dry English. You know, really enjoying his words, so you'd be reading about mass horror and just listen to him just chewing the scenery audiobooks interesting because. The people who didn't do all the voices that always. Yes. And it's always, you know, when you get a good one. I use them for accents as well. Okay. Yeah. You you know, you might get somebody reading say Huckleberry Finn in in in that accent? You're off, you know, and even even Joe's good to this new in English reader in the Catholic. So I could so I can work on my English voice at the same time as we'll listen to the history. Woke around repeat it, and you know, I was going to ask about your proclivity for accents. Because people who listen to the puck has regularly will roll their eyes now because I asked pretty much every Australian actor into about access because just seems to me, I don't know whether something in the water, but all ustralian seemed very adept at accents English American other bits of English. Strana next to good Irish accent. Oh, that's tough very tough. Jones you now. Don't do. It actually is a catch. You get it. So it's impossible and be some ours. Mun wonder would woke up and just shove you in the back, and you know. I am incredibly judgment people do but what does this come from? Is this something that basic level, you know, sheet here in wax lyrical, but necessity? If we don't do it. We don't work. Yeah. You know, outside of a straw. Yeah. So, you know, and I'm one of these people that that our work hard. If I have to you know, but, you know, sit here the Dorchester, and relax if it's there as well. So it's like, you know, it's it's a great thing for studying this Wilson westerns work a lot because they have to work hard. You have to get the you have to do it. But was it something that the that? True voice. It's very back. You know, it's very thing. It some. So it's it's something you can rep. You know, you you you you hit around pay or an American accent and dumb personally. I love doing what it really bit nervous about using my voice over my own accent in anything anymore because it's just it's wonderful to gone be something else. You know? It's like putting on a wig. Yeah. War-drive putting on it's fine. It's one of the first things I do have a couple of dollars coaches, I work with and finding that person's voice is essential defining that the way they construct thought. And then all seem to flow from that. Do you do do you go method on santee speak in between takes an hour. If I need to practice. We'll do lot of work though. You can't just do. It's okay. If you can do it for eight on a mimic, you know. I'm not a mimic. Yeah. So if I'm feeling mimicking then I'll feel Feick onset anyway. So it's within you pick a tonal range within that familiar. You work on it. And. When you drill. It's great. If you can do for Hoffa now, but you know, you need to do sixty a days, so and you mouth can get very tied. You know, going to the gym. So you'll you'll have to build it up. You know, have stuffing my phone just listen to do one hour, two hours, three hours. You know, maybe Monte two three hour sessions just to make sure that I really can get there. If I have to just drill drill drill. Let's good. Audible comes in just doing and listen to it. And just you start to you know to get into. And then they you're there you go I want. What's the goal is it goal to have Italian right in your own head or to meet your dilate coaches expectations or the the drain may no expectations in the end. I mean, yes, she want to serve the story in the directive. I find I've always gonna cure about this. The idea of there is a right way, incredibly scary. A right now, you know, it's like a cat to hit a mock. Pet cemetery. We use these things for the cat. Yeah. Always gonna hit that, you know, in in a sense, the sign there is no the sixty four million ways, we could do this scene. You know, and I don't want to get stuck into that. I'm gonna be bored. If I do the same thing of a board will join is going to be bored. So, you know, actors have a right declined find it, increasingly we you. It's two three four takes on the moving so quickly that the window of enjoying your work tightens up. Yeah. That's why such a it's a it's a it's a actors increasingly coming in product focused rather than the experience itself. So you don't dare to please. You know, you're you're you know, in Tim, Monica sits there and watches it. I'm very interested in what he's got to say about. And when he finds, but you gotta make it your own. You know, you've got to do it because it just slowly slowly seeps into you doing details. Much as she can. Can be and then hopefully Tomi cross that line. It's going into what you need is the other actor, then what you need is is the director. And finally what you need is just action. Yes, you don't get time at like ship crossing the line in the America's Cup that you got enough wind in your silent ago. Amazing for this episode of cricket and Australian actors. Football. Football on that one. Does grew up as an arsenal fan. How does that happen? You know, as a little boy, the idea of the gunners, you know, really appeal to me on a basic level. And then. And then you know, I was picked in fallen it for wall. And then I really got into it in the old when Dennis Bergkamp, I came. Yep. Arguably, I think probably the greatest import. Mealy at that time. Yeah. At the time, let's go with that. And probably, you know, little time dentist head at all. So you know, and that was and then we went into the glory the glory, but still unsatisfied I really felt we should have one. You know, we should have wanna Champions League in there or a or a Europa couple, you know, something other than just an more than two premierships. But you know, we had the, you know. So this is not one of his vim. But when he's so big sal- and Patrick Vieira interior on re and IB Lous, Freddie, and. No raise. We're good looking tame as well as a group football team and the glory. And then now, we just you know, we quietly saw. Must be miserable being fifth-place. It must be terrible. Rowing. I mean, you go on these these chat shows you see them online. Now. I mean countries change doesn't it with you know. All these online dudes. But yeah, I mean, a lack of him Bishen. It's funny because we took Alex cows got an on this film. We took football all the time. It's a big football fan. Okay. But he supports a team in Sweden, which is like at the bottom of the second one. What's going on? I should man. I just love football. I love to go up to know that my team is fighting for they get them on no win. But they fight. We sing we bond we play. You know, they put it all. And then leave it on the pitch the last one more thing. Yeah. A big show. David o'leary. So him I was sitting on Catherine having lunch the hotel Petersburg. And this guy will excuse me. So I was too nervous to sell it. You lost? Not. I wanted to say Turner, David O'Leary. It's would you really David Leary. Not a experiment recognize dry. It was great. Then he was telling me about how used to go there back in the you know in the seventies. When when that go out that apply in the old Champions League we had to win the planet. And you know, the nothing, you know, you'd be there'd be into Russia, and there's just nothing getting ready for football. You put your own food and. Everything amazing to see great under the pet cemetery. The last thing I'm going to ask you Jason is Sheba's a lot. But this is your second film playing here nightly husband issues, is it like a Starbucks coupon. Type thing are you collecting stamps with each one. What happens? I hope so I mean, I've been very lucky in, you know, Helen Mirren twice now. Carey mulligan three times, you know, Jessica Chastain incur-. And I love these women. I love them assist interview with an Australian strenuous permanent. You've worked with female directors chaser never thought of it. But I have I mean, I love not to breathe into a modern context, or you know, what this love them love coming back to them. And and you know, and you deepen your you deepen you craft with people that you've worked with before you deepen your enjoyment of it because I'm not having to worry about in a stepping on a total this or that you're in there. Just trying to find it didn't do over discuss it. There's a real sense of. Of like, you you can leave you work on the table. And it's done. We put it all out that and then we can go home and sleep well and come back and give the energy tomorrow. And I love Kira. I, you know, I'm. You know, it's been a wall since we've seen each other and lots happened. I personally between that and you know in in a shifting world way. We're like a circus. We don't see lots of acquaintances, but not TV too. It's just it's a real reaffirming thing of why I love this business. You know, amongst, you know, growing cynicism another things that and why I got into it in the first place. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, we'll see in three years time for the third installments, whatever. Installment. Yes, she must be. Well, yeah, you know, the the company we should do is. We should do somebody to remake of the to Ronnie's in the worm that. All look at. Rony women role in leather in the town of London the womb turn this room and didn't expect to hear references to David O'Leary and the worm that turns from Jason Clark. That's amazing. It's been a pleasure. Thank you very much. Okay. So that was Jason Clark and time now to talk about moving news, what has been happening in the world of movies this week, boys. Who Welker there's been some? Oh, no, no. No. No. No, no. No, no. I I have to commute. Least have you want something else? Suddenly ROY tell you that no trade soared master Duncan Idaho has been cast. And it is Jason momoa this news broke last week. Just after recorded last week's podcast. So we are nearly fell through the cracks. But thankfully, even if it had done. There was news that yes, another gene bit accosting. Please. Don't look at your phone, please saying the name of actor. Oh, no. It's the actor's name. I'm gonna struggle with of course, the hawk Conan mentality debris muster of assassins. But I cannot dust Milkin David the dude from man Kurt from. Yes. Kurt from Google gypsies in him. He will be reasons the bradberry from the David version of, gene. So you know, he's got big shoes to fill. Wow. That was that was rare that was you talking about June Mandla didn't need anybody wanna burn every couple. Of course, he may. The it is by willing own. I set my mind in motion. So tired this on the public TV podcast? Fill it. This should be a separate splint. That's just about June on your own. Important. We don't tell them Mike's up just merely away that was probably genius. And. At UCLA James by that movie, I June amount. But they're good good. Marking is really good in the night. He's super creepy in that. So if the role required Christmas he is yoga. Yeah. A massive news has teamed up with the hulk in four ragnarok. But that's not the news that happened. Happened. Instead he's playing HOGAN in a tote Phillips directed. Yes. Net flicks. Yes. Bio pic of whole Cogan Insein. It is insane. Yeah. The hulk nighter. We were either of you hulkamania axe knock in the back in the day. No, also, I remember going to see suburban commando in the cinema by mistake squatting story. Yeah. Because this was the IV sentiment in Bambridge back in the day whenever suburban commander came out on one essay eighty nine around that time you meant to see. Well, no, they advertised it as the family so that would place it in nineteen ninety. I'm guessing they literally advertised it as we're showing the Addams family, the only showed one film because relinquishment cinema and we sat down to was the Addams family. Clearly, they just went Christopher Lloyd films business. Suburban commando, and they suck suburban combined to one and was one of the things we tend film before you realize that this is not a traitor, and there's nothing you could do the hoax got you point. And. His trivia voice above Saddam commander features. Another WWF wrestler who isn't got. Bridgeable the undertaker guest. Guests talking of other wrestlers. Did you see the shakes tweet about this news one was he was very upset shake? It's hard to tell. It's all in caps. This is not going to be delivered in an iron shake voice. But being angry sheltie, man. Chris Hemsworth, fugit Bruni. I swear to Jesus I sue plex you when I see you remember who make the whole Khameini, and who is the real legend of the. Wow. The shakes take on this news. So I think that says suplex coming his way the thing thing, I remember about hope he used to ban on about the size of his guns his biceps, and it was used to call them. It's the twenty nine inch pythons and related to that. I've also seen the hulk HOGAN sex type which feature a twenty nine. Let me tell you. I hear he's mighty power leads in the ring. It's I seriously recommend that nobody listened to this ever look at the hulk HOGAN sex his up setting on every level to see his Gioberney. He talks quite vocal about the fact that he's indigestion way through it. Anyways, a bit of a mood killer. But it's an age to love making it enhances the act, so the bitter reading did about this indicates that it's going to focus on his rise to fame, which would make sense. A lot of really juicy up stuff. Happened post suburban commando, but I mentioned this is all about the build up to command to or Mr. nanny this should be called planet. Hulk? That's my final. On the subject. I think they would get so sued. That's weird. Great casting. He is great casting. He can do comedy. He could drama. He's probably the only person Hollywood went out the slimmed-down play HOGAN. But I think it's voice. The voice sounds like. One of the Sesame Street up on that. Should we move on? I'm going to joke in from Twitter. Chris Hemsworth, Thor a plane hulk HOGAN, the ask me lose to handle ball moustache, whereas handlebar moustache Jesse. Let's see. Buffet. Football us Poos. Protect us us predict due to to. Okay. Anyway, anyone else anymore movie news? There was a spectral storm in a teacup last night. When an interview Jason Reitman about his new guys busters. He was Jason wrong. Last night. Wasn't he filmed mild, and specifically the phrase that he said where he said, I'm we're in every way trying to go back to the original technique and hands the movie back to the fans which made a lot of people. Cooked given that it seemed to dismiss the two thousand sixteen poofy film. Yes. But since then he has come out and clarified that he really likes that. Yes. He's he's clarified. He likes Ville and feet came out and clarified that he really likes Jason Reitman. So everyone got really agree. Everyone seems to be cool again. Yeah. That's a great news story. Yes. No is good news story because it it does raise a larger question, which is the danger of fan pandering or fan during if you will. And I don't think it's a good thing. And I'd rather the Jason Reitman and Gil Kane, and who's helping write the screenplay for the Ghostbusters movie just made the Ghostbusters movie that you know, what? Hey, lay want to make and they don't second guess themselves. And they don't think about what the fans might like because here's another thing as well. By large the fans of Ghostbusters proved themselves to be douchebag with the the treatment that the me out to feed and cast of the twenty sixteen Ghostbusters. So don't pant. These people it was pretty focused. Artie, don't pant. Those people just make the movie that you wanna make. That's what they did. When they made the first Ghostbusters. We're no fans demented crowdsource stuff. That's not cups. I mean, the original wiz. Dan ackroyd? Love of old. Barry boys, you know, spook busters films crazy titles. No one really knew about doing it from self and it just turned out amazingly. But he wasn't. He didn't have anyone in mind when he was making right nothing. Should you bear in audience in mind? Yes. Absolutely. I don't think Jason Reitman's gonna make three and a half hour black and white checks, Vaki and subtitle movie. He might do you never know. But you know, you have to has to be commercials in some regard, obviously. But just make a movie man, the thing about fan services that it can lead to things like Bluefield inspector and the repeal of blow fell being something that means something to the fans on again air quoting but not to JAMES BOND, and that's just backwards. That's that's totally backwards. And I am going to bang, my M C you a little bit here because I don't think they do service and EMC I think they make the movies that they wanna make tell the stories they wanna they wanna make. If you wanna come along with him on that journey. Great. Maybe now. Again, low hit a little touchtone, you know, this cool, but they haven't really gone the way to to tell those arcs do stories at the comics full was very style. Check and that worked out quite well, didn't I it seems he talked about how they've gone back to the Elmer Bernstein score and use the stems for the music for the teaser and they've tried to get the lettering. Exactly. Like, it was in the film. So that oversee that's the duration going that gonna try and do a retro thing very much for the for the people he loved that specific movie. So we'll see how it comes up. I was reading a thing about the bone theme June this week about how Monty Norman came up with we read this you assign that he flew him out to Jamaica to soak in the ambience and come up with something, and you know, sort everybody so like ROY coming out, the watery hung up with Sean Connery and stuff came up with absolutely nothing. And then went home and parent reused something that he'd actually written for something else for the tar and just re re reaching the competition for the guitar went yet. Say he went full Monty. He did the full Monty. The full Monty. I'm glad you brought up JAMES BOND James because bond twenty five has been pushed back yet again. So it was going to be out this year and the vendor then got pushback with Donny boy left a project. Cary Joji Fukunaga came on waved to February of next year. A now it is moved back to April. So what do you think of that? Well, good, okay. Sort of movie discourse come to the podcast for. Yeah. I'm finding a little bit tricky to muster up in features for this. Even though I really like Fukunaga love what retreats tattoo sin numbers. Great foam, everything he's done so far has been good. But spec to was so boring and a little bit overdone, Craig so unfunny holiday cited. But as we find out more hopefully that will change dang Craig by the time. This movie comes out we'll have been in the role for fourteen years, which is slightly less than on. Roger Moore was but he is going to be the same age. I believe as more was when we were made either moon raker or Futaba kill. But it doesn't look he looks like he's spice fifty you'll be fifty two years old. But he said he's spry. But other news by bond is at in the endless merry-go-round of screenwriters on this thing. So John Hajra drive for Danny Boyle when Donny boy left that draft was was jettisoned, and in income came pounds, Purvis and Wade Neal Purvis and Robert way long-term screenwriters of of JAMES BOND, Nick knife. Passed out and had ended a few state three through some of their movies in the bond. They came on right of draft. A now Scott said burns is the writer of contagion, and I think the informant and lots of movies for CPA Soderbergh. He's coming onto basically rewrite the script. Movie. Is it like this on the pilot TV? I was too busy thinking about something that I think we should definitely talk about which is which is film it we've not had yet had a chance to discuss. But Denise Ville nerves new film has got a release date dune is coming out on the twentieth of November. New. The first one was enjoyable. I'm brief twenty. Yeah. Obviously, we'll be taking the Dow off. And I am starting changed all petition for a national holiday, the the June sport or special. I'm recording it bit by spoiling it for people left right and center. Okay. So that's that's very exciting. Couple of things to discuss one the acts that we long thought was poised to fall on the punisher and Jessica Jones has indeed fallen over at Netflix. Netflix of finally cancelled the remaining two shows of their marvel TV universe. The punisher. We'll be no more after season two just aired. And Jessica Jones season three is coming up in a few months, and that will be that the counselor has struck. This is such you know, who's furious about this Nick Eminem Eminem have you seen? This just tweeted about an hour ago. Din- flicks copen regarding your cancelation of the punisher blowing it this is willing cops. Sincerely marshall. Dear Netflix last ever, send your ass. I'm fascinated by Eminem's and his viewing habits. He doesn't need the punishment. He's still venom. I read once that said Eminem once was in a bit of a funk for a year for some reason and watched the bug film shooter over thirty times vote on it totally understandable on the TV series. Spinoff Filipacchi is a good. I have watched I watch most of it and then lost John Lee swagger role, bobby's splintering shoe. Good stuff. The end of the Mt. You yeah. That's it this week things coming off. I mean, they were always gonna do this winding up for a while. Now, there was no way. Either of these shows we're gonna get another season. It is a shame wall. Admittedly, some of these seasons were crushingly tedious. I refer of course to emphasis onto the of some of these were really good. Plus, he's amazing much recent series devil. Really good. Jessica Jones first season amazing middle second, very boring. Sure. I think is the saddest one, isn't it? I really like the punish I only really just started. And he was perfect. Speck tack yearly violent in. I've almost never seen in the TV show before I think the casting by and large people have a problem with Finn Jones vis and in fairness, I didn't watch either series of aren't fist. I I saw him in the defenders thought he was okay. But I know people had their problems with that within that actor in that role. But I thought the casting these these roles was pretty spot on Johnny Cox was fantastic. As Matt Murdock? Kristen Ritter was great as Jessica Jones. Mike Colter is Luke cage walk around him. Amazing, and yeah, Johnny Berthel. I can him Johnny because of Menem twice. We share a birthday and unnecess- Twitter handle he is Frank castle. You know, going up against some pretty stiff competition here. Lindgren Tom Jane combs metamorphose leaving. And and of course, Ray Ray Stevenson can comb Ray Ray can. Yeah. I just that. These are these are really great. And the the scuttlebutt is that we may see them again at some point. But apparently, the can't be deployed in any marvel Disney, plus Hulu, whatever it is for two years after their last appearance on that flicks. So we may yet see the dream team once again, sorry, dramatic to one. Tim, tim? Yeah. Are surprised by this the way, we knew that Netflix was cleaning house in a way. A Netflix, sniffer belief you figures, but it was lots of speculation this week about the fact that Netflix had to pay marvel and Disney premium to use these characters that maybe fewing figures were declining little bit to people who do monitor things like social media buzz and whatnot. It was dropping with each successive season. So maybe this isn't a surprise. And also, quite frankly with the way that the other studios Disney and Warner Brothers Sony on all the big studios are going to be all having their own streaming services, all with their own content all user own libraries, it makes sense it Netflix ultimately will want to have all their own original content. Why should they be paying someone else for their IP when they can generate their own IP? Yeah. No, I agree with you. They were expensive shows to produce. I think Netflix have moved beyond the point where they needed them. I think when they first started doing that will you know, they they needed that boost needed that prestige. I don't think that they do incredible original programming now. So I think they have evolved me on the need for this. But you know, hopefully, we'll see this again. And hopefully with you know, fingers crossed. It would be amazing some of the same people buying them. The costing was extraordinarily. It calls one one of my weirdest. Most real set fits experiences at empire was the day. I flew to New York I landed in New York at three pm. I got the Brooklyn of our four four thirty pm checked into my hotel. I had half an hour's nap in hotel. I was picked up. I was driven to the set of the punish your season one. I was onset of the punish. He's one for about six hours. Spokesman good friend Johnny Burnsville birthday, buddy. And had a bit of a blast. An went from there to the set of the defenders. Onset of the defenders until six in the morning. By the if you think I was incoherent in the interview Jason Clark, I interviewed Vinne Jones have not really seen anything that he'd been in. Or, you know. You know, had no real awareness of my surroundings or indeed anything, and it's the most incoherent I've ever been. I think at one point I fell asleep. Mid question is that was I was incredible experience fell asleep twenty twelve really story. Vancouver slept on remember being woken up to Gun Talk to John Cusack. About was. I mean, we would neither of us at best. The best sleep deprived interviewing. I remember. I did a night. She baby driver how so wiped out by the end I asked right? The worst question I've ever asked anyone I said if this was a call speed. I remember he just looked at me and said, no, no. The question. It was great. He was very tight as well. So it was it was point. But we we've bounced question we bounce back. It's not that's the second. Best question you've ever asked. The the first the best question you've ever asked. Was you ask Gary Oldman in panic run out of things to ask him? You have you ever played a mayor? I wish I could say that. It was the first question. The first question. It was the first question. I'll tell you why. Because his manager Doug a bonski plays about ski in or does he play Mary. He's also he'll say pops up. Gary Oldman films does roles played a mayor in something. And I was talking Doug about skiing the corridor. Just before I went in and faced with Gary Oldman, and I did panic. On the mind have you ever played? He actually gave it some real fort. And then he went not think I have. It was it was a real life point. Have you ever played an ombudsman? Here's a list of. Played a caterer. Honestly, genuinely that questions. Amazing. Is it that that's an amazing question? I'm not embarrassed to show the story until now so we're all sharing here. Find will we need to get an answer from him. That can apply to any film. Yeah. Any film tall? If this film riccar, what speed would go. So I'm more superhero, TV news. We have a bit more information on the low key series. Of course coming to Disney's plus streaming service. So it now has a Showrunner. Michael Walden veteran of Rick and moti is going to be writing the pilot and executive producing the show. And we now know that the show is going to involve low key as he pops up for human history as unlikely influence on historical events. So it's LOKI does quantum leap. Yeah. It's LOKI Gump quantum. Quantum realm locate the quantum leap, I don't know what that's not what I expected. So he's and given the Rick and moti background of this guy. Sounds like it's going to be comedy like an ally. Can allow comedy. What do you think? Yeah. I mean, I don't really know. I think everything that's coming out about the post of inches and game at the moment. She take with a pinch of salt. But it sounds like an interesting premise, I guess ably. Unlike contemplate, he's not going to be trying to save the diet. Do you think of the end of every episode who go oh four? So that's pretty cool. Interesting. There was some sad news or the week that the the great Swiss actor Bruno Ganz preps most famous, of course, for wings of desire and for downfall, the film generated. Well, one mean, but basically thousand memes because it was the same thing they Hitler renting seen passed away at the age of seventy seven and he was great actor. He was of inventors regular he was in the American friend. He was of course wings of desire. He was in faraway so close he worked with Vernon Hertzog enough raw to the fan par as well. He popped up in the legs of the Manchurian candidate the reader and most recently, of course, LARs volunteers, the house Jack, build his final will be an attorney Malik film Rattigan which hasn't yet gone released eight, but he was an incredible presence and huge respected and highly revered very free Saturday to hear of his passing Bruno Ganz at the age of seventy seven. Okay. So time now to take a look ahead at the Oscars. I will not be staying up to watch the Oscars having said that I said a lot and then I end up watching him. Anyway, what do we think is going to happen to the Oscars will be excited about the Oscars? Are we started about the lack of a host to think it's going to be basically three hours of nonsense? I mean, he's always a three to five hours of nonsense. Isn't that puts a tight three hours? Three I feel they done a fun sponge on this one. They've taken all of the amusement out of they rolled back the categories in the in the outbreaks didn't they? For that's happening. Yes, they did massive public outcry. So they won't back the no categories in the ad bright. Yes, they walked out the no live music. They will now be gigging. They walked back. The best popular film stuff. Yes. They did. It's going to be so much live music a concert cleaner going to open the show Queen Adam Lambert gonna open the show, but they're not doing any of the dominated films for best song. So. Announced that he's going to be performing a song from stars born asks himself, not as his character is the different impeach himself on the difference. Pissing. Yeah. Serena wizards on stage with or without tennis racket that getting people not from the world of film to present shorts thing about each of the best pitcher nominees. So Serena Williams can be talking about stores born, and they're all going to be other people popping in who. They are. I don't so that sounds unusual. But it's the lack of host. I always kind of enjoyed it for the host the big opening will the gags and stuff if that's not there. I don't know how they gonna wipe in it. I don't know either. And I won't be finding. We're just. Yeah. But just condense them into a single word documentary simply in the morning. All right. So that's through category by category. Not not all the categories overseen and you predictions. Okay. So best screenplay the ballot of BUSTER Scruggs black klansman, can you ever? Forgive me. A star is born and of Bill street could talk. What is your tip? What he thinks going to take best adapted screenplay if Bill streak could talk. All right, Jim, boo. Yep. It's beleaguered no he's before I have used that before. But I like it when we were listening to the score in the office today and the score is magnificent. Are I'm going to be must be wrong with this. I'm going to say that stars gonna win that won best original screenplay first reformed pulse. Raters first Oscar nomination, which is incredible. Because the dude taxi driver so one of the fuck also green book outta McKay for Feis the favorites. Tony McNamara and Deborah Davis. An Afonso cloud on who could break a record. I think for the most individual Oscars in a single night. He's been the lead for best original screenplay, of course for Roma. What he thinks gonna win I'm leaning towards favorite. Okay. Oh, yeah. I'm on the favor as well. Okay. I will contradict new I think Koran will win that one. Let me say that's move onto best animated feature. Rough breaks into that Mirai item into the spy incredible two dogs absolutely into the spot of us. If in the spot of us doesn't win then frankly, everyone is still on the stage. Burn the building to the ground seems fair. The only logical the only measured response an injustice. Best director, Spike Lee for black klansman incredibly again. His first Oscar nomination Adam McKay for Feis. Pavel public hall sqi for Cold War Afonso quote on for Roma and your goes lengthy MOS for the favorite Koran Lund. Females lengthy moss. Really give it to him into. I think it will be quote on as well. Quarrel win that won best. Supporting actress, Emma stone for the favourite, Regina king. If Beale street could talk radio Feis for the favorites. Marina de Tavira for Roma and Amy Adams for vice this is probably the weakest cuts agree. I'd say, but I'm gonna say Richie king. Interesting policies because I think the favorites hotter Stein will reach retro Baptist industry. So I don't know if that will Regina king. Yeah. Probably lean more towards Tina came than the others. Some interesting stats is at Regina king did not get Seig nomination. And that usually is a arbiter of doom Oscar chances and butts. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if she takes it. But as wouldn't be surprised to Rachel vice wins. So keep an eye on that one best supporting actor Adam driver for black klansman harshly Ali a green book Sam Rockwell. I mean, he should just be happy to be in the room for. Some Elliott a star is born. I mean. Housing. He's on the screen, but will of eight Richard E grant for can you ever forgive me. I told you should have gone to his face a few weeks ago. I thought he was going to win. So I'm going to stick to that. Really hope he wins. He doesn't think he will. He thinks surely will win. I told him. No, you're wrong. You're gonna win wrong. Whenever Tom Bennett on the podcast for love and friendship. I told him confidently he was going to get an Oscar nomination and he didn't. And he's never let me forget it. Anyway. So there you go. I think that rush lolly would win that one. But no angel. Second Oscar in three years from rehearsal Ellie best actress lady Gaga, Melissa McCarthy Olympic Holman for the favorite Gallizio apprecia- for Roma and Glenn Close always nominated never one year. If like. Was like I'd see I wanna say Komen, except she's clearly the supporting actress in that film that doesn't matter. The the lack of accuracy that bugs the hell out of me. But Glenn Close, you know, I feel a little bit like she's one, and she's amazing film as well. She's in is all about women who deserves to win awards to watch while other people win them. I think my my heart says Livia Coleman. But my head says Glen place on gun Klis. Okay. What are you say kidney say that just in pain constantly? All right. I think I'm gonna wake up to find Glenn Close with an Oscar do not not marimba in in in the L streets to coastal Honus free. Good. But you know, Colman's mustard. So she may win for the. And I would not be unhappy. If we ever Komen because she should've won tyrannosaur, and she wasn't even nominated soon. Anyway, so far sickness Juba. You can't make a competition out of art anyway, best actor Bradley Cooper for a star is born Willem Defoe fr- attorneys gate figure Mortenson for Greenberg and Christian bale for Feis can't give anyone else that category. You forgot about Rummy Rummy Malik for behavior. Upstate. I'm going to say again, what I said last time the film is is rubs, but he is and you should know he's. He's Oscar-winning goods. He's gonna win. Pretty, mama. What's he is going to win? That is foregone conclusion at the authors as you could possibly get. If he doesn't say it's a kind of magic he's filed. It'll be a case of mercury rising from his seat as his name is cooled. Yeah. He's great in the Bruce Willis movie. Oh my God. All right. It's the big one best sound mixing. So a star is born I man Roma or behemoth rhapsody down, you think I man. Yeah. I know the the one they all want is best picture, and there are eight nominees ludicrously. None of them are teen titans. The movies or adventures Infinity were what an absolute farce is thing is down shut down now. But we had to go ahead with it and the eight are behemoth or rhapsody, which I would posit. Shoot. It win. Would be the worst film to win best pitcher. Well. The favorite Black Panther black klansman green book Feis a star is born Roma. I think having valuated all of your Sion's. Variety. Offensive you formulate the only possible answer is ventures Infinity. In the up move in a shot move. From the Bank having foggy. It'd be like the the moonlight Lawler landing in reverse. Yeah. The film wasn't nominated pool. Remove Hoffa upstate. Can I remind you some actual from humane rusty? Yes, Freddie, you'll burning the candle at both ends to which he replies. But the glow is so bright. Thomas go right now. It's going to win this just staying up you think human rights he's gonna win best picture too easily. No, no, ROY Moore will will win. It's it's it seems that in the absence of the Fosse superior in offenders Infinity will Raymond we'll probably went. Yes, we'll win. But I will say this. I've been reading some stuff from Oscar prognosticators and don't be surprised if green book wins because of the preferential voting system that the Oscars us, so you know, you literally list your preferences in order one to eight. So some people might go green book might be very consistent number two or number three choice for a lot of photos, and therefore that might just carry it over the line apparently some Oscar voters don't like Roma. They don't like the fact that this Netflix Wilner bid v about that. And of course, it's a foreign inner so. I think he will. Film. It's right. He's took a dial up. I think you know, I'd be happy. I really enjoyed green. But like really really enjoyed son. You know, I'm on board. I enjoyed I I don't know if it's the best film of the year. In fact, I note that we've already established that was eventually finishing. Well, quite I didn't think it does of the megabyte clashes hot. But yeah, I I I think it's ROY Moore. We'll find out on Sunday night. We'll talk about it initially show. Also, the last thing where we should talk about in in this bumper new section is the new issue empire, which is out right now is very very exciting for a number of reasons. Number one. I wrote barely anything in this issue. So, you know, it's good. Secondly on the cover JIMBO you can talk about this. As the host of the pilots TV podcast a little bit history. Now empire has historically covered. TV rightfully off you go back and you look at the first few issues of empire. We had Donnie Baker, right? A TV call him right from the off it was right there. But we've always been a magazine puts films on the cover, you know, being a filmmaker Zine zipped for this month because we put on the cover gummy of thrones. Yes. Which is the cremated the creamy TV. Season. Eight is coming up and the show. Yes. Massive sort of like change direction for us magazine. We have Corey split run. Yeah. Yeah. We don't have stunned as on on the issue. All right. No, no. This is Kemba thrones covered to a huge celebration of the show which has been eight televisual event, regardless of whether you're really in stevia, it's been incredible. And this along with vendors endgame, and of course, episode nine is one of the landmark events of the year. And so we are celebrating that in massive tonal in huge detail. Yeah, we cost we spoke to crew spoke to directors. We spoke to you. We spoke to the Blake sue design the dragons, which the opening credit designers, and most of all I can't believe we pulled this off. We spoke to the drama from coal play. What's his name? We'll champion go. But I call him the drama from Copeland. Else requesting agreed to do. Exclusive chats probably because no one at Austin. But he was a lovely Blake. And he talked his cameo in the red winning episode. He is a massive game for Inskeep. And he's really fun. But there's all kinds of stuff. It's twenty one pages. If you into the show, you'll love you've seen three episodes, Nick, then you should watch the rest comeback and enjoy such possessed the Shiite king which to get fruit. If I'm going to give you some more puns at are in this magazine. Try and I'm not gonna give you any context. Just puns case persuade you want to spend your hard earned, and you should all men must pi. Yeah. There was actually a bitter debate about that nilfisk because Ben Travis was occupying heavily for it to be called fray bentos. I I agree with them. I'd never heard of that is some kind of northern pi it's a very famous maker of meat products. It is of course, the scene involving wool affray and keep here's another good pun. This one's good because I actually contributed this one fall brand that's a good one. If you like five heavy zero. Okay. Friends. It's gonna hit union sweets boat and dish best served cold play. Guess what it's about? So there's lots of stuff. It's at the issue beyond game of thrones be have an interview with David harbored. The man who is the new hell, boy, we were onset of Shehzad. I'm Ben Travis went on set even though he's barely young enough to brush his teeth. He went and said, oh, she's I'm and had a great old time Rafe fines. Ralph Fiennes is the the empire interviewed this month. Yet, we have first looks at elective Aladdin Jona hillsdaie toil debut, mid-nineties, Andrew Garfield is months. How much is a pint of milk in my section review section. That's why did contribute a little bit. This issue. We have Drake on our talking about bad times of the Arroyo. I spoke to Woody Harrelson about his life film lost in London, which was an incredible undertaking. And we look back at Schindler's List twenty five years after came out, and we chat too big limb. The forty eighth graders living ordinary person and this was before he. You know, said all that stuff. But it's a really really interesting to be with Lisa looking back at Schindler's List. Some fascinating stuff there in fact, including tip is about why he didn't do Lincoln with Steven Spielberg. Well, but that's not all be called. Oh god. Because Chris and no this does not come with a special dune supplement much to my dismay. It instead comes with the third ever issue of pilot TV magazine, which upon with this issue and has loads of amazing TV goodness. As if game of thrones give you enough that ready. We've got loads of upcoming stuff American God season two took with Alan Partridge type of finches new showed loved FM robots in there. We talk about when you dairy girls crater on the phone in features Kim eve, tons up. We spent Jeff me cure for nieces line of duty fleabag is in that respect to Richard Gere. That's wonderful kind of respective look at the sopranos talking about Tony in particular, speaking, some of the actors from that show, we have some twenty four and Sherlock and an ex. Piece on the leftovers. Sounds brilliant James obviously, tastic count wait to read it. It is called Pat pilot pilot TV it's available. It is a supplement with empire. You can get completely and utterly free. By the news of empire. People pay my wages. You absolute mothers. Okay. Time now for our second gas, and she is one of the fastest rising actress around she was mesmerizing and Lady Macbeth. And now she anchors next weeks. Comedy-drama fighting with my family as page a real life WWE star not F E. She is a course wonderful Lawrence Pugh. John agent recently went along to have a good old chat with her enjoy. Florence pee welcomes the public cost. I'm good. Thank you. How you doing very? Well. Thank you. Thank you for joining us. So we are talking about fighting with my family, and you pay page real life wrestler. First of all what's your relationship with wrestling like growing up? Did you what shits? Nearly zero lie as a kid. I watched a member. My brother always practicing some moves on me and not being deadly pleased and so fighting back. But no, I think the exciting thing for me was I knew I knew nothing about that world. I'd seen it. I've I've met fans of it. But I haven't watched it. And so really when I came to this job. It was such a a mecca reveal of how much I didn't know. And how exciting I suppose that was. And so I guess the player fresh Russell, you must need a lot of training a lot of training intense. I don't think it wasn't sold for about four months. But no, I think that was part of the excitement for the job, and I don't want to speak for Jack to, but we were both very normal. Bodied people. And we suddenly had to become I think that's the best thing about wrestling. It's not like we had to have you know, washboard ABS we had just be able to throw people. And if he boil it down to that it makes even more exciting because it's not like your in the gym working on a static. You were in the gym seeing how strong you can get which something that's quite appealing. So that was definitely a massive. I mean, it was terrifying. But totally exciting to be able to dive into any hairy moments only moments where you left home with Bruce. And I think it's safe to say, I mean, I'm sure someone will be annoyed that I said, but it's fighting, and whatever view you have on if it's real or not real you'll still in the ring hurting yourself, and you're still in the ring doing all these moves, and yet Israel you come away with bumps and bruises and you come away aching and you have to be aware of that. You can't just pretend. If it's the you are an athlete when you're in that ring, and I take my house off to anyone that goes in that case, it's tough. 'cause I mean, the the real page, of course, had to quit injury. Which just shows you how serious how serious it can be. She's so young, but has the -ccomplish so much already. So yeah, it was an honor to play her a chance to get to know a little bit. I got to know her. I sadly, I didn't get to meet her before we started shooting because by that point. She was a superstar by then it was traveling the world and meeting people, and it just didn't happen. But thankfully, we are of similar personalities and got a long straightaway. So we've been messaging quite frequently in the last couple of years, and she's usually supportive of everything I've done since ofter fighter family as well. Which is so cool. So yeah. Hopefully, I think we'll be hooking up at some point. The family at large as well. Such like colorful group of people, I think it would have been. So I I mean, we hung out with the family a lot I met and hung out with that quite a little brother, and they still live in Norwich. So that was really wonderful to be able to be with them and hang out with them. And they are such gorgeous loud, brilliant, people, and you have to really keep up and make sure that you you are in there as well. But yet beautiful people and all have such big hearts, and they are so generous with their time they gave us so that was really wonderful to hang out with them train. The actual ring. We did as she we did some training, and they they lent us their ring some points. And so we'd have basically the entire family with the family that we were making this film about would come in and set up a ring. It was just totally bizarre. You never get the people that you're playing coming in and helping you and that was such a wonderful moment. So. Yeah. No, we we we worked with them. And and lots of family were actually in the film as well. As restless, which is cool. I don't come from a wrestling family, obviously. But a wrestler. Come on. But still like this family. I thought you know, there's something I recognizing my family in this part of the appeal this family. Watch the documentary. It doesn't it doesn't take very long before you fall in love with them as a family and individually, they are I think the best way to sum up what a family should should be entail, and and how supportive they should be. Yeah. That's that's watching the documentary makes everyone realize how special they are. And I there are certain points. When you watch the document she way, you realize that she what your family, do you and mazing that is in an and if not then something that you should definitely, you know, hold onto and put into your own families. Because I think they've got it down to a final clearly any favorite wrestling route moves now. Jack. And I would go bit rogue because most of fighting would be together. And and most of all banter would consist of us just basically getting fights with one another. So most of our moves were either me squeezing him really hard with my legs like we'd be filming. And then suddenly I'd like rollovers squeeze super hardened do like a half Nelson or something or or just slap each other in the stomach that that seemed to get the point across. Most friendly. Yes. I mean, do you get to know someone quite quickly when you're rolling around in the creek? Squeezing pulse of your body that you never thought would be squeezed before yet. Yeah. It's a pretty quick friendship from none. But no I'd heard of Jack before and we had such an amazing audition experience together. I think why certainly fell for him in addition experience, and then oversee we get filming and we have the same sense of humor, and we send she become big brother and little sister. And that was so so cool to have that relationship with someone when you're playing those exact characters it's really wonderful to not have to try, and that's exactly what happened. The actual ring in Staples. Mental Monday night. Roar something that was actually in the first week of shooting. We went over to LA gone to go into a couple of the auditorium scenes. And that was on. I think the fourth day of shooting was Monday night rule. And we went out at the end of Monday night rule. Dwayne went out to the crowd just as everyone was leaving. And the rule was. So I mean, it was mesmerizing. They didn't stop for about six minutes, and you touch the wall, and it would be like vibrating, and he I love it. He just basically almost if people wanted to go they go, but you know, wishing films if you wanna stay you can stay everyone stayed everyone stayed and we reenacted, you know, one of the most famous fights with a few extra little spins and twelve and mega mega for the full day of shooting to do that. And I'm not wrestler, and I appreciate everyone support and love during that day. Because it was a lot to prove. You must have been twenty thousand people. Right. I mean, obviously a couple of people would have left, but that was as substantial amount of people in one room that will all looking at me waiting to see if I could be page Missouri yet. No, it was thrilling. So thrilling I was alive, and I was on such a buzz of two which is the whole point. That's why it's so wonderful to wrestle as you have that amazing kind of eight minutes of being superhuman. You are now in first name terms with Dwayne L. Yes. I didn't mean to only goal in the rock. Can I like if I see him? I'm gonna cool him Dwayne join it so come on though, if I if I called him the rock, that's. Doc icon goal in the I have to call analytical him, Dwayne Johnson. You know, you have to just cool him Dwayne. Consider yourself, a friend. Yeah. He's a good mate of mine. And he's been so him on page have been so supportive of me since even after the film has come out, and they've been cheering my name on lots of other projects that I've been a part of his well, which has been so wonderful because they are they are true friends, and I appreciated that that love has you in his Jim yet. No. Because I think he would probably laugh at me if we would ever work out together, it would be hilarious because a I'm the size of his cough in terms of length. And and be I I think I'd just be mesmerized by watching him and how much he lives. Scurry eight is scary. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't be able to keep up ATL on you know, what I'd do. I just yell at him. I'd be the annoying thing. That would just say come on keep going. You're worthless about stuff about inspiring stuff. But he's I've met him. And he gave me a bottle of tequila what that's so wonderful of him. But he he strikes me as the nice, he's gorgeous. And you know, what it is when I was going to go work with them. I had heard so many wonderful review. Like, you know, he he's everywhere. And when I was working was like, nah, I'm going to find out the chain is going to be something shifty about him. He's going to actually have like really long hair. And he was a bold cap. You know, I just wanted to find somewhere where he wasn't very nice get you. I don't know. I I was like something has to be wrong with him. He can't beat this lovely. And then you meet him, and you're just like putty in his hands. You're like, okay. This lovely all right. And eats all the time. He's concentrating. Bodybuilders? Will you be in the middle of a conversation with him, and he'll just like spin around into some pirouette and put food in the microwave and then come back, and you're like, whoa. That was fun. So if you were to go in the ring would your wrestling name be I'm going to have to come up with a fun name on. I okay, I have the the best, but the worst surname ever. And it is so shocking to stop making Malcolm nations of different words with it. I think you'd have to be upset this before. But like, even my move would be the poster or my name would be the pew STA and just use it to my advantage. And everybody would have to get to grips that that is the way to snow, but it's coming out it works. The huston. Could you imagine? If I did the Pulitzer on someone. Only white what to me. Oh, my good sounds like like zone someone. No, I won't shit on anyone recipe. Move in the ring. God how amazing but often with that bay? Very page of so sorry. Love daily of not not laughing at your profession. I'm laughing at my name. I would be I I mean, maybe it wouldn't. I mean w w yet. But I'm sure there's shitting wrestling somewhere in the world, we'll have to Google it. And I'll put my name down next to it. There. Brought to you by the new. Okay. Noth- of shitting. Complete tonal complete total. You've been I'm not sure how to lead into this question you've been working with Greta gerwig. Totals? From pouring on people to suddenly Little Women. The most. Adila classic. There is yet. Sure. Little Women stood. Renew. My ribbons in right now. I changed mine light CRA is gone and my ribbons, Erin. So are you filming right now? Right. We've finished finish. And it was like one of those same as vita, my family, really one of these films where you're onset, and you're working with the same people every day, and then suddenly like open your eyes and go, whoa. Oh, there are so many important people in this room. I bet screw it up. But an amazing an amazing shoot and such a such a ridiculous core group of people to work with including Greta being the director. Yeah. It was mecca, and it's one of those films that you you you realize how lucky you are to be there. And I'm so happy that it shows me to be Amy. And I hope it's going to be as specialists via of the versions have been so. Yeah. Thanks cross. To sing that. I'm really excited to see that too. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's my time. But thank you the pew STA, I will not peace to anyone in this room. I wonder if I can actually use that term again. Now, it's been tainted. Thank you very much testing. Okay. Lebas Florence Pugh, and we're going to go straight into one more fighting with my family interview. Now, the film Mark see solo Darah to'real debut of Stephen merchant who's been adding strings to his rookie surveys free bow of late, but with this an acting turns in Logan and the girl in the spider's web. He may seem like an unlikely choice to direct a movie about wrestling. But it's worked out pretty nicely. And he was also speaking to Johnny agent enjoy. So Steve merchant welcomes Zampa owner to be here, we owe hits talk about your new film fighting with my family. Yes. First of all were you a wrestling fan growing up? No, I had no interest in wrestling. I'd never watched it used to what she occasionally. If I was with my grandfather who's to wrestling with big daddy and join haystacks back in the day. Never understood. What was going on didn't? I looked weird. And phony to me if you remember what those guys though, they Bailey, they didn't have any of the kind of gymnastic moves that the WWE rest is have they they were just too. Big blokes running each other. I mean, that's what goes it was pretty basic stuff. So I wasn't into it. But then my I'm sure if you know many of your listeners if they were to their list of top five movies of all time. I'm sure number four released would be the two starring me and during the Johnson, and so we actually had stayed in touch with the rock after we made that film, and and he saw documentary about this family of wrestlers from Norwich England while he was in London making one of the fast and furious films. Yeah. And he's in hotel room. And you know, he's watching channel four and Hollyoaks finished and own K meme documentary about his family. And so I I was probably the only English person. He knew at the time subsequently, he's obviously become friends with Jason stay them by the time just me and semi this documentary, and I had no interest in resting. I thought I was gonna watch NB board sneer and just think the these stupid people with their silly hobby and was just completely enamored by. Them and by their passion for this very strange world. Yeah. It's I mean, it is an incongruous link. Isn't it the sort of the rock watching channel four quite? Countdown Chris links the I'm friends with the rock. I know people weird. Well, though, I should point night. We argue buddies show note because he doesn't push himself. To go to the gym and really give our full stuff free sleep released. So it just. Now, we we. So we stayed in touch. And then, you know, as you say, it was just that. He was you know, in some travel somewhat watching tunnel four. Say that there is a lot of sort of in congress world in this film is as real meeting of worlds in this sort of very humble beginning Norwich. And then this huge glamorous will WWE the to me the film was always going to be a little bit. I can't thinking about sort of divorce, you know, in the way that it starts black and white. And then she lands in alzon, and it becomes technicolor in this world opens up to her, and I kept thinking of that for this and sort of the we start in orange, and it is kind of gray in wintry and sort of. And then she lands in Florida, and suddenly there's big blue skies and kind of wide angle shots and things because that was certainly her experience of going to. To Florida and also Mike Schmitz of sort of going to American today. When I first went there, you know sort of land in you know, you look around in. It's just the sky that goes on forever and the city that goes on forever and it new coming from England, which I think on the whole fills more smaller in some ways and feels more contained. So that was sort of the one of the jumping off points ready for for approached it and the real Bevis family. Did you I presume be got to meet them and get to know them a little bit. I went up to meet them. And I met them at their wrestling Holson in Norwich, and they were executive. I hope they were you know, within within an hour. They were telling me about their their rough and tumble pasta. And and you know, how Ricky the father would say I was in prison three times before I was twenty and his mother and his wife would say mainly violence. And and, you know, just take these loans and just put them in the movie because they were they were sort of that just they're just amazing characters. And the thing that I was charmed by was they have this enormous passion for this thing. Yes. Wrestling world, and they love it. They talk about it like a religion. They talk about how it helped him turn their lives around. They had trouble with drink control in the past that cer- wrestling game, focus and salvation like other people talk about Christianity. There is something. I mean, I absolutely don't come from wrestling family as you can know sure shelf or if you did you'd be the black sheep of the wrestling comedy one commentator. But you know, there's still something I recognized in this family in this dynamic in how they come together three conflict and stuff pill. The story to me is this this family that wrestle on this brother and sister of grownup interesting world, and in a sense, you're expecting is that the sun's destinies he's going to go off to the glamorous wide world of the WWE, which for wrestlers is is is Hollywood Broadway. It's it has big as it gets. And so, and so the fact that he just always assume that was going to be as destiny in actually was his sister. The chosen in hint to find new ways of of of dealing with being left behind was really repower for emotional story to me. An in fact, they respite is almost here and there, and so it's very important to me that we made a film that that that you you didn't need to know about wrestling you care about wrestling. I kept thinking about Bill Elliott, you don't need to love ballet to love. Bill Elliott story you just need to love. I was gonna say teenage boys. But that doesn't seem right. You just need that Billy loves wrestling tangible. You loves it and you're on board because of his passion. And so is the same with this family. They they love this thing, which you may find silly. But they really care about it. And so hopefully, you care about them. Yeah. I was gonna ask it. She's interesting bring bellyache. So I wanted to know what films you felt were influence in this. 'cause people might come to this thinking Stephen much. It's like the office. You know, obviously, it is very funny. But it's also like quoting emotional sort of honestly sports movie in many ways, I to me it was it was always just wanted it to be funny when it needed to be funny dramatic, and when it needed to be because I find that. That's what their story was, you know, and when I met with them, you know, they were there funny, and they're performers and they will say funny things sometimes you're laughing with someone who's laughing at them. But then there's also real darkness in their lives, and and ups and downs emotion. And so I wanted it to. To have all that stuff. And certainly those things like Bill Elliott, and and oversee I watched sports movies rocky, and and lots of those, but it's a little bit more confusing anyway this because we sort of understand that that this is a slightly artificial sports. We we know that it's going to there's levels of different levels of reality in fiction. And so it's it's not just rookie locking out Paulo creek because you should understand that he's really done that. And that means everything in this. When someone knocks someone dining interesting ring was that planned that was that greed upon beforehand and saw realize that it was actually weirdly, I kept thinking about gladiator where all of a read sets to Russell Crowe. You know, if you win the crowd you win you win the tournament as you when you're when you're freedom. And so cutting about that with her, you know, as a recipe you need to win the craved in order to be a star and Dwayne the rock, John. Would I just couldn't play? He was he was doing that to me that literally you they call it going over you have to win over the crowd. And so this is in a strange way as much kind of show biz star is born can they make on Broadway kind of story as is a sportsman. Yeah. But it is such a despite being performances such physical thing wrestling, and there's point I mean, the real page is Steve retired from injury. That's any like Harry moments when you actually filming the wrestling self there were and both Jack and Florence who play the brother and sister went off to America to Florida to train the actual facility where page a trained, and so they had to learn to take bumps as they call them in this ways of folding and flipping and all these sorts of things they they immerse themselves in that. And they did as much of the running jumping and falling over his as possible in that we would allow Florence. I think you know can landed awkwardly for one and was a little bit. It fragile for few days book, but was a pro and just gonna fight through it. So there was always hangs. I about them getting Jews tight schedule. So we didn't have time for them to get horribly injured in and, but but they just they, you know, and then they themselves into and they were exhausted. You know, a lot of time. Because of course, it's like it's like filming a fight sequence. Filming an endless fight sequence. You know, sort arrest wrestling, really taxing and really tough. And and my fear of injury was one of the reasons why I never stepped in the ring. I was going to never they kept saying should we don't we throw you? Why don't we show you? How to note definitely not. I mean, you've probably got the range. Right. You can throw a punt. Well, that's the thing though. I think as boxer appreciate saying that I would be one of the greats long reach the kind of the physical stamina and physique. Yeah. But as a wrestler lot more kind of bumping inferring yourself in gymnastics, and and that's a bit tricky for six or seven. Have the family seen the film, then they have seen the film, and they were they were very moved. And then I went off to floor and showed it to the real page and. We were at the WB training facility. And she was there, and I and she left her in a room to watch. And then she said own side. Site for an hour. And she watched it. And then she texted me. She's I mean, tears I wanna come out. I don't the other restaurants to see me crying and hues very moved. And I think she felt like we, you know, we hit told the story effectively. I think also we, you know, we we tried not to shy away from the darker aspects of it. You know, Zach the brother really struggled with his rejection, the the family of this dark past there's trouble in in their in their history, which we try to include. So am I think it's quite tough for them? But but they seem to respond to and what about the wrestling community at large. Have you had any response from that? Yet. They haven't really seen it yet. Because it hasn't been there puts those that arresting fans, I am pleased that they seem to have enjoyed it so far, but obviously I've had to compress things and let you say like a film fan the rest and community of real obsessive about a lot of the history of it and the detail of and so on so I, you know, I'm sure that they'll have questions, and you know, there's lots of speculation about is this person supposed to be this person on there. But I think this broiled respect I show for the wrestling world is I think they'll respond to that. Because I'm trying not to what didn't want to do is more kittens near laugh at it. Because it just I realized straightway that the people love it love. And and so it was like to laugh at it. Really? Yeah. Because you films you filmed staple center, I e filmed, and we feel the actual there was a Monday night role, which is the big TV. Kost. They gave us an hour afterwards to film this big match and the rock came. Down was sort of compare. And when the roof goes to arresting environment. It's like Elvis's comeback insane. They go crazy for it. And so I knew we only had an hour. I said when you go out there and explain what's happening. Just don't get carried away because we have much time. And he went in that ring to twenty minutes just talking to the crowd entertaining. And I can't communicate with him. So I'm screaming. The only person who's ever when the role kitchen rig going get off. So, but I, but anyway, he was amazing. And he kind of explain what was happening in kind of help tightly through this sort of mechanics of filming and then Florence it was the fifth day of filming. And she comes out dressed as page in for twenty thousand people has to go out there and recreate a match they had already seen for real some years ago, and he's sort of an hurt. She just was nerve nerveless. She was just she was incredible. Yeah. I mean that must be hot pounding music director as well. Right. Just because I can't communicate. Yes. Everyone's in the ring, and it's very hard because I'm up in these this further away looking these monitors. And so we had such a limited amount of time. And so we're just we're just hoping that all the cameras grab what we need. You know, it was just it was really tough because with creed or something they get three or four days to shoot these huge sequences. They have teams of extras and the rest of it. We we didn't have any of that kind of budget. So we're just like guerrilla filmmaking, and then just finest most next few you can keep on directing become a professional wrestler. I can't. Yeah. I realize now is I spoke to you. Egg. No, I'd like to do something else. But funding if I drip the other day because I've got time on my hands my top five hundred films, just either just an idle, twenty minutes, and it such an eclectic list, and it's such a weird all over the place selection. I was looking at thinking I'd love to make any one of these films. And so I kind of a bit thinking now, I don't even know where to go. I mean, I've got Michelangelo Antonioni, you know, aren't highs movies from the sixties some John McCain in classics predator. So I don't know I'd left it all of it. And I'm a bit kind of any any of your listeners and readers suggestions for you. Very welcome. And if you were to step in the ring, what would be your wrestling name. That's tricky. I think it would have to be something. I'm the merchant of menace. Pretend just just just then realize it sends the merchant of Venice. Oh, good. That's very good. Well, we hope to see you in the ring or you know, in the cinemas. Stephen. Thank you very much. We will be reviewing fighting with my family on Knicks week show, which of course, is live coming to you live prerecorded live from the Glasgow film festival. Meantime, let's review list weeks releases. I'm going to start with on the basis of sex, not racy as a sound, JIMBO. This one is about the esteemed supreme court. Judge Ruth beta Ginsburg, this is indeed this is Mimi latest film about Ruth beta Ginsberg's print court Justice, the notorious or BJ or the this film, actually touched on the fact that she's a supreme court Justice. In fact, takes place as in nineteen fifty-six and with her in law school, and it sort of focused on a period of her life when she graduated from law school, she's working as a professor, and she brings a landmark case to court to challenge sex discrimination, which until that point have been perfectly legal in the US. It's an interesting because it doesn't really tackle the interesting section of life and. Actually the documentary feature or BJ does a much better job of showing you why? She's awesome. Yes. But I think Felicity Jones, really she brings an intensity she brings. She brings something of the real Rb g to this role, and actually is incredibly compelling this. It's it's it's a small story and not an exciting story because law by its very nature in this is in front of jury analysts invisibles grandstanding, a wonderful speeches and sodden rulings by judges even organ. What I'm saying is unless you have someone you can handle the truth. Does anyone say that? To Ruth what we need to send this Bill back Yukon handle the Ruth. No, it's it's it's a relatively sedate trial seem in this. And it's most of the film is essentially wagging on about sort of legal philosophy talking to daughter, and you know, and bemoaning the state of the American legal system while pouring through very large homes. So not what I would call a roller coaster ride. But it is really interesting. It's interesting is a history lesson. It's depressing. Look at how massively sexist America was in that era. And it is interesting. See this landmarks case play out. But the really interesting stuff. Unfortunately, is relegated to the kind of postscript. Text of the N which tells you how her life later on as Jones forever in this. Army Hamma is excellent asked her incredibly supportive feminists husband Marty there is a multi field to this film. Helen, reviewed this film and really enjoyed it. I enjoyed it a lot but perhaps in spite of the overly sentimental tone. There's a there's a hint. Of movie of the week about this one. Which is unfortunate. But genuinely I really enjoyed it regardless of that Helling gave this one three stars absolutely fair. It is good is a recommendation. It's a history lesson is grave performance. I think it would have benefited from a little more, shall we say subtlety and a little emotional relation. But nevertheless, it's great. So she maybe say it. And we should point out as well. This is me leader. You're saying letter, I'm saying leader. This is our first big movies. Yes since she's not a while. But she which is crazy. Yeah. But she's been working pretty consistently. She did she talked to the left eye. But she didn't episode, of course of the west wing. In fact. Several episodes leftovers, actually, but it was interesting debate to be had about the the concept of movie jail and the and the idea that it's a lot easier. It would seem for female directors to get into movie jail and not get out again for a long long time. Men who can have two or three stiffs in a row and still get big gigs. Whereas Mimi leader potty Jenkins was fourteen years, z monster and wonder woman to restore the drug world in between flirtation with that. But that's kind of strange to you think this is no pay for it. It's a much better film in that. It's not like a masterpiece. But it's it's good. The Natori Rb g you can handle the Ruth all better names than on the basis of sex. Three stars in for that. And we come on next to capital, which is a Lebanese foam from the director and the dean liberty, and this is a hard hitting drama, Nick. This is about a young boy young boy who is essentially left fend for himself and another smaller child on the streets of Beirut year. The title of this film translates as chaos which gives you an idea of how uplifting and happy. This is doc bleak fairly miserable film, but very powerful one. With a lot to say. Yeah. The main cartridge twelve year old kid who is having an absolutely horrible time. His sister is being sold off by his parents to a local greengrocer. He's having to work on the streets, his parents horrible and abusive and he'd sites run away. And the film kind of follows his adventures as he meets us, if you pin woman with a baby and encounters a man dressed in spite of costume, cooled cockroach, man, I'm not kidding. And it's. And it's just really kind of charming the word. But it's it's greasy, and it's real the performances remaining kid who was found on the street. His name is Zion. Our referenda. Plays a kit called sane in the movie. Yeah, he's phenomenal. He's terrific agree. But he has a real hot this character. He starts looking off to this woman's baby. Because she gets in trouble and part the movie is just is just as twelve year old carrying around baby. And that just hustling on the streets. It's fascinating. I really liked to it is dark. It's not happy film. But it's just enough humor. And hoping it to keep you going. It's also it's movie with a lot in his mind. Obviously, it's a movie about how there's a generation of kids that are growing up, and, you know, especially imagine in places like Beirut who have no chance whatsoever. They're born into a world main. This kid doesn't have any papers. So therefore, he's under fifty recognized as systems even someone who exists. So how you know, you he has to scramble and hustle from from day one. No one even really knows if he's actually twelve on that just guessing he doesn't even know. Yeah. It's a movie that's very sad about the world. Very angry say the world as well. I do think is hoping this film, though. I do optimism is really interesting developments the beginning of the film and end of Philip flashback as well where he actually is suing his parents because you so angry about the fact that he's been brought into this world, and he hasn't asked to be brought into this world. And so he soon as parents just the the act of conceiving him from giveaway where that goes. But, you know, this this is a a really soulful movie. I think I thought it was absolutely terrific. We gave it four stars four stars for Burnham. And yeah, I do check it out in a sentiment this weekend. Okeydokey next up. We have cold pursuits, which is the latest film, which leeann Leeson does what he does best not open his big gulp and shelves put into it in interviews. But instead hunt down people who have wronged him in some way. It's a revenge film, and is remake of in order of disappearance and three years ago, which starts dense cars card, and this is from the same director actually remain as it is a Moland. This is an odd film because it presents and indeed has been mar. Acted as another Liam Niessen rampage of revenge thriller, where he just kills is a bad guys is that, but it's I jet black comedy on a full of gallows humor and Willie wanted to this didn't realize it was supposed to be a black comedy until a good forty minutes into the film. I was like this is actually trying to be funny for me. I think worked to an extent it uses very large of life characters. It uses ridiculous situations. It uses a lot of just frankly demented comedy devices and some of the most Ranchi quantum comfortable. I mean infra who review the stores for fantastic review, including some extraordinary pond. So I definitely recommend that you you check out. But some didn't really sit right with me. You you have the same experience on. I didn't you didn't love. I I thought it was an interesting film, very well shelter. Actually it. Little stylistic touches every time. A character gets killed which is often title cop comes up. Yeah. The name of the character. And that sort of symbol to note that religion which carried over from his. It's it's full of little wizards things about a lot of interesting Mina carrots as she found the supporting characters more interesting than the Liam Nathan character. Yeah. Tom Bateman is really fun as the villain. I fought for me. He was the highlight of the film Viking aka Trevor who's just. Bizarre sort of weird fussy sort of Patrick Bateman. Yeah. But why only the top? Yes. And everyone in this has Craig nickname. And it's just it's it's a really strange, film and genuine I think because I went to this a little bit. So on have not seen the trailer. Seeming. I think a lot of people will shame. This is yet another sort of commuter slash in flight. He type film. What was the in flight one called on stop nonstop Nick gave one start? Well, it's it's another sort of one of takings project, but genuinely genuinely when it dawns upon you, this is a black comedy. I think you have a lot more fun. I do think the film gets a little distracted. And I think you lose sight of the main story on the Nissan store at the whole thing with the rival gang gets valley, Laura and just went home after. Yeah. I don't understand anyone who cost or done and then waste. She's never been ask Wanda. She is big little lies. Got. Okay, I'm done. I appreciate it to an extent. I think there's more to it than your average lease and revenge from because I think it's actually the opposite message is sort of an absurdist thing about how when you try and get revenge it just it just balloons senseless mayhem and just the number of people killed by. Because this one thing that starts in a kind of avalanche effect. But a kind of lost me to be honest about half way for a little bit bored. It's it's a thriller and to mind, it's not funny enough as a black comedy doesn't really succeed as either I had some issues with some of the characters as well. Yes. Some broad racial archetypes, which don't really lamb very well. Like, you said, I think Tom pavements great fun and Liam Niessen deadpans like no one else on earth. We gave this film four stars. I'm not sure Nick all myself would necessarily have gone that hype infra who view this very much enjoyed it. Ben Travis from our office, also very very funny and appreciated the gallows. Huma. So did not that is true. But if that sounds like you'll back, and you're a big limb. Then by all means go for it four stars than for coal pursuit. Which was of course, cold hard powder back in the day. And this is interesting. Of course, you know, the movie in which big limb opened his globe butts, and it will come to be known as that for forevermore. But this is also the movie on which a fan couvert which store called big stars time, which put a sign on your side Ouaga said Liam these eats here for free. Remember the story lease and turned up underneath very I don't think he ate anything. But he just turned up and take some pictures. And then they were all like, oh my God. This is amazing. Got some of the Johnson says well, so there you go big star sandwich. Yeah. Podcast eats for free. But the sandwich there or did he ever taken away? Oh. Four stars end for co pursuits. And that is it for this week's bumper empire podcast. 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6.17.19 SIM card hijacking is a major problem; Drug manufacturers sue over pricing rule; Cars becoming safer

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6.17.19 SIM card hijacking is a major problem; Drug manufacturers sue over pricing rule; Cars becoming safer

"Great to have you here on the Clark Howard show where it's all about you and your wallet. I want you to learn ideas to me, so you can save more and spend blasts and don't let anyone ever rip you off coming up in a few minutes. And today's car courageous moment, the medical businesses always looking for ways to rip you off. I'm going to share with the what's going on with prescription drugs and today's car creation coming up later, you're shopping for new or used vehicle. There are some things you should try to look for on that vehicle, which can have a big affect on your danger on the road. Danger behind the wheel talk about some actually really great stuff going on with vehicles for sale. Particularly a lot of newer of the used cars and many new cars as well. So I wanna talk about something that. Is coming up on our show with increasing frequency, and it is a problem that is one that the solutions are not quite fully there yet. But let me first set what the problem is. So now in order to deal with people trying to steal money by doing charges on your credit card or taking over your Bank account or stealing money out of a brokerage account or mutual fund account, or retirement account. More and more institutions are requiring what's known as two factor. Authentication is something that for years have recommended you when it becomes available to, you set it up will most places have gone to a simple system as an additional step to verify who you are, and that is they sent you a one time, use code to your cell phone that you register with whoever it is, you're banker whoever. So with that one time, use code then suddenly, you have access to all the functions of your Bank account brokerage count, whatever. So what criminals are doing now to defeat that security step is they are hijacking your cell phone service in what's known as a sim swab or Sam. Left so they will. Walk into a cell phone store with a fake ID with their picture, but your name on it, and they will say that their cell phone was stolen or whatever story, they tell and they walk out with Assem card for your number. And once they've done that. If they already have figured out through hacking, how to get into your account, which is unfortunately easier than you might think then what they do is the one time. Use code goes to them not to you. Because remember, they hijacked your service, you may go to use your phone in. You think oh, the networks down right now or whatever. And in minutes, they have initiated a wire transfer or some kind of transaction to steal money out of your account. And this is a fast growing fraud fast growing crime. Now the four major cell phone carriers have all started initiatives where you can add a secret code to your account, so that if somebody walked in with a fake ID pretending to be you. They in theory aren't going to know that secret code, and it would prevent them from being able to steal the cell phone service and. Because this is such a fast growing crime. We are going to I, I want you to go ahead and set up that code with your cell phone, carrier, don't make it a code you use everywhere else. And second. We're going to check with all four major carriers. To see if there are any other additional steps, you can take or exactly how with each of them, you would set up to have this secret code, that would prevent somebody from some hijacking sim stealing sim swapping, all the terms are used when talking about this. Just so you know how to protect yourself from this and really the method of two factor authentication using a single use code. That's texted to you is a waystation to better methods verifying density, but it's the way station we've got right now and criminals have found the vulnerability in it, and they're going to try to steal the other way they do. It is even more interesting. And that is they port your number out from your existing cell phone carrier to another carrier that becomes even more complicated. And that's the second part that we're going to find out from the cell phone carrier's. How do you deal with that, and get your own service, restored with the carrier you're with because you and I should not be in a situation where our lives are disrupted so much. In somebody is trying to run off with our money. Fill is with us on the car coward show. Hi, phil. Hi, clark. My family is taking our first ever trip to the Grand Canyon this coming thanksgiving that we live in Orlando. So it's quite a trek out there. And I've been watching airfares. We're planning on doing they're starting the Friday before thanks giving through the Sunday after thanksgiving. And the big question I have is when shy really be looking at buying the airfares. Okay. So first of all, I would like it. If you could shift your trip to this, you said you're going to go on Sunday to Sunday. Is that what you said or Saturday to Sunday? Saturday to Sunday. So if you did Saturday to Saturday you may see a lot lower fares and you're gonna fly into Phoenix. I've also been eyeing Las Vegas. Yeah. So I think that smart for you to compare both of them. But the Sunday after thanksgiving is one of the four busiest travel days the year. So if you can rotate out of that day, thanksgiving, this year is the twenty eighth right? So yeah, so I'm looking right now. I just pulled up a quick search on Google flights and going where you return on that Saturday should save you quite a bit of money versus Sunday, but you're also a little early to book that trip now because we haven't had any meaningful fall sales, yet, there was one recently that cut off just before your travel dates, but it would be to your advantage to wait a little bit, and pull up. Have you have you seen how on Google flights? You can set up a fair alert that sent to you anytime strop. Yeah. I've been watching those right set that up give up on that Sunday after thanksgiving. Okay. Going on. That would be the first December, I guess, coming back on the first December, you'd really have to hate your wallet. Far route should I really be looking six weeks longer? I would say about the third week of August their week of August. Yeah. That when you should see the airlines, it could come a little earlier than that, but you should see fair sales that will cover the period of time up to December fifteenth. And there only certain days that are a zillion dollars around thanksgiving and imagine this, in most years, the four busiest travel days of the three sixty five or four days around thanksgiving, the Tuesday and Wednesday before and the Sunday and Monday after so of voiding. In this case, you're picking one of those four days that creates misery for your money. And so you gotta make sure you get out of that. And so if you had any ability to go, let's say a day early. On comeback a little earlier. Bet you've got a lot cheaper fair. Just anything that gets you away from those peak peak days, would work and be flexible about looking at both Vegas, and Phoenix as we talked about because as you can expand the number of airports and expand your calendar. That's what will get you a better price. Aaron is with us on the Clark Howard show. Hello, aaron. Hey, clark. How you doing today? Great. Thank you, Aaron, you are a rare individual. Yeah. We try to we try to save as much as we can, you know prepping for the future. So you knew max out your retirement plan at work a hundred percent. So you're putting in was it, nineteen thousand dollars a year, is that with the limit is now. Yes, that's correct, nineteen thousand four four one K. Wow. And my wife, she invest into a pension plan, which I don't think I don't really don't know if there's a max on, but we also invest into a Roth which we have maxed out each of us, my goodness. So you're going to be in really incredible financial shape when you decide to bag work. That's great. Well, you know, we can't do it every year, but we try to what years we can. Well, I'm just really excited for you that you're able to so much money aside. So my question is if four four year again we liked to try to put back as much as we can. And we also so right now we're caught up for twenty nineteen and we'd like to go ahead and move forward and saving up for twenty twenty. We can't invest anymore into our raw for next year. But I would like to, you know save up now to invest in twenty twenty. My question is can I put that money into like an index fund or something, you know, maybe in the low to no cost providers there, I wouldn't do that, if the idea your parking the money till you can put it into your Ross come January. Is that really the idea? Well, I would probably pace it out the my, my thought process behind it is to kind of put some money back all this the money, though input here. Would all be eventually for long-term savings anyways, when, you know, nothing within the next ten years or anything, so my ideas I can park it there. If the market's down our markets up or whatever it would. Ideally, be similar effect to just basically transferring it from that from that index to the raw right? No one has ever proposed anything like you're proposing to me ever, the ideas that you would go into funds pretty Mitrou quivalent, risk, is what you would then put the money in next year and year, Roth IRA. So you'd pick up some time investing this year, figuring time in the markets valuable I, I get I get the idea is very interesting. Again nobody's ever mentioned that to me is possibility. I think you keep it simpler the money that your parking that's going to be invest. Sted should just for these months. Go into a simple savings account with one of the online bank's you're not gonna earn anything dramatic. You're gonna earn a couple of percent on your money, but you're also not going to have to worry about downside risk in the short term or tax issues because if the end ex do well, you won't have qualified for long term capital gains. So you'll be subject to ordinary income tax. So for that reason, I think the beauty is that you're living on substantially less than what you make your getting money together, so that you can use it in the near future to invest and tax qualified retirement accounts, including Ross at our tax free, and what you have in them. So just open an online account you'll you'll learn that max about two and a half percent. You don't have to break a sweat earn two percent just put the money there. And then when the clock turns to twenty twenty you just turn right around and start putting the money, right into your Ross. So I, I think that's. An interesting concept you have. But I don't think it's worth it to have money put away just for months in what would really be a temporary holding pen, today's Clark -rageous moment is something that is so frustrating to me, you know, I'm a big believer that what makes capitalism work is, was transparency were, you know what something's going to cost to you the ability to comparison shop, and I've long believed that one of the real failures of the medical industry in the United States is that everybody is hostile to. What's known is price transparency where, you know before you seek a service what it's going to cost you and there are a lot of people who believe if we're going to get down our health care costs in the country, which is what we got to be about spending more than double, our national wealth of any other country, any other. Developed country that we've got to get to where you and I as consumers can make informed decisions as to the cost, it's always hard for anything we purchased to be able to tell the quality difference, but cost we should be able to do. Well, there's a new rule that's been proposed that would force drug manufacturers when they run those ultra beat commercials on TV showing everybody smiling and having the greatest life ever now they need to take that drug, and it's going to solve whatever condition. They have that they have to tell you, what that drug costs within the commercial pretty simple thing. Well, several drugmakers have now filed suit to try to block them having to tell you the cost. I mean that's reprehensible what the drug manufacturers. And their Senecal selves. Don't realize is there's. A lot of people in the country who wanna do price controls, or price-fixing, where the where instead of the market, setting prices, the government would control the price at drugs, and it's very popular in polling, but my belief is you'd end up eliminating most innovation in the breakthroughs in medicine that we have now if we did have tight price controls. Oh, I want is for you to have the information and the drug makers, don't even want you to have that to be able to decide whether drug, no matter how happy, the people are in the commercial is one you can afford. Great heavy here on the Clark Howard show where it's all about you and your wallet. I want you to learn ideas to me, so you can keep more of what you make Clark dot com is our main website, Clark deals dot com. That's where you go to get all the latest bargains as we shop for deals for you around the clock. So I have an unusual privilege in that I guess it's a privileged. I travel a lot for work, and then I get to take some wonderful vacations. And so I'm in rental cars. Frequently probably ran about thirty cars year in a typical year. So I get to try all different makes models and I'm never paying for luxury Reynolds. I'm just regular cars irregular SEV's, and what I've noticed is how many of them now have a variety of advanced safety features. None of them seem to have them all, but a lot of them have different ones to the point now, I can change advice that I've given for the last probably ten years, I need to modify because I used to talk about. The advantage when you buy a new vehicle of working at the various safety features that will help you prevent an accident. I mean think about it. We've gone from the Aira of trying to reduce injuries and fatalities when you're in an accident, that's what the air bags and other things the vehicle or about but we started moving. Really in any meaningful way earlier this decade to doing something else, and that's preventing the accident from happening. And so something that originally was in early forms almost like beta in rich people cars and fancy luxury cars now I'm seeing when I rent vehicles there on most vehicles that Iran, at least some of these features one that is very frequently available is autumn. Attic emergency braking. So how about what a difference, is that make when you're looking at a used vehicle, most people by used vehicles. You know that accounts for the overwhelming majority vehicles purchased. And now there are a lot out there that have it that one feature. Reduces the possibility of rear end collision you're looking down for a second right in the back of somebody reduces those by fifty percent five zero percent doesn't take it two zero those accent, but a fifty percent reduction is a great reduction, because so many people are injured and killed in rear engine crashes a rare, rare collision where you go bam into the back of somebody so. The most recent year their numbers, there were roughly two million of those crashes in the year in the United States. So if you cut that two million to one million massive savings and property, damage bound care about that, really. It's about the human factor, the injuries and deaths. That's just one example of the things that are in the vehicles, the lane departure warnings that are very common on us vehicles now on new vehicles more and more brands have the thing that will steer for you. On the freeway technology that was pioneered originally five years ago, by tesla is now on more and more manufacturers vehicles where it will keep you automatically safe in the lane adaptive cruise. Control an enormous safety feature where were the data cruise control it automatically adjusts and keeps you a safe distance as you're driving from the vehicle in front of you because vehicles don't go. Even speeds. And so with adaptive cruise control again. Frequently available on used vehicles is a wonderful safety feature. And when you're changing lanes, you know, the blind spot thing. Several brands have the thing that when you turn on your blinker it will flash a view on the dash of traffic in your blind spot. And then you'll know whether it's really okay to go. Other vehicles have less sophisticated thing that will do a beep or a buzzer. Somebody was first offered. I think about ten years ago by Mercedes. And so when you hit the turn signal and you start to go over another lane vehicle knows whether there's another vehicle, and that lane that you're maybe not seeing, and it will buzz at you to not go over into that lane. All these things are well short of fully autonomous driving, but they're available today, and they're almost like a throw in on any used vehicle. You buy has these systems. If you like to buy new. Vehicles. Sometimes automakers will require the you by particular, quote unquote package in order to get all the safety features. Cheap guy will tell you. It's, it's hard for me to get these words out is word that it is worth it. To spend the money to get the safety features because of the accidents that don't happen and the property damage and personally injuries that don't occur by having these safety devices. Jackal and joins us on the Clark Howard show. Hi jacqueline. Hi, how are you? Great. Thank you Jaclyn. You're going to be a nurse. What kind? Well, I am already nurse. But I'm in school to get my doctorate in nurse practitioner. You are a brilliant person. Thank you. Because the need for you as a D N P is gigantic and very much. And do you intend to practice in a state where you're allowed to practice with full autonomy is a DMP or in the state you intend to practice? Do you still have to be under the umbrella of doctors practice? Yes. So the state I live in it is still restricted. So I think we're one of the last thirteen or so states to go to unrestricted for nurse practitioners, which we've got to day featherbedding for doctors and harms. Health of the American people. When after you go through all that enormous education to become DMP. You're not allowed to go out and just practice. I agree. Thank you. So thank you for making that commitment, because they shortage of primary care doctors in the United States is so intense and DNP's are one of the key ingredients that's going to deal with that and provide primary care which is so needed for so many hundreds of millions of Americans who I don't even know how many there are three hundred three hundred and forty million of us something like that. And it's more than one hundred million who don't have a regular primary care doctor. Correct. Thank you. Thank you for that. Very much. Sure. And so next time I see a doctor, you know, I'm going to get noise about that. If they've heard. We appreciate you having our back though. Okay. Well, how can I be of service to you? Well, my question for you. I'm thirty two. My husband is thirty eight and right now. I am fulltime in that doctorate program. And so I'm working part time as a nurse our goal right now, we will have our house paid off next year. This time that's from town. Thank you very much. We've worked hard, my car's paid off and our credit cards paid off every month. So the only thing left would be his truck, and then we will be free. We don't have any children. We both have eleven percent put into our four three Bs at work, and hopefully want their houses paid off. We can increase that. So go on. I want to say something about that a lot of four three b plans are really junkie with extremely high fees. So rather than increasing your contributions for three Bs. I'd like for you each to set up your own Roth IRA that you can do with the low cost provider, and just stash money beyond what you're doing right now into the Roth IRA tell you max it. Okay. My dad is a huge fan of you, and he is pushing us for Roth right now. So. I'm glad. Okay. So I have when I come out of school, I will come out debt free. I have the money for it. I have just applied for it's, it's called a forgivable education loan for service cells. So basically, they will pay for my schooling if they pay for two years of my schooling. Then when I graduate, I, technically pay them, back by working within my state for two years. You can work anywhere on your state, not at some predestinated salary that would being less than you could make it market, correct. Yeah. Yeah. So that again to what I said up front, how much you're needed. Right. Right. Exactly. So my, my dad and I have two different opinions, which is why we're calling you. But I thought I would take this opportunity and then use the money that I have been using for schooling and put it into a raw. Or into savings of some sort. But my dad is fearful that, you know, something is not gonna work out with this or so. Let me understand that. Understand that you have to have any money, do you have to borrow money for the state to reimburse you, or are, you allowed to just pay tuition? And they will reimburse he what you paid for tuition in return for giving the two year commitment. It goes between this program and the school, I don't ever see the money so they do the transaction. So I wouldn't have to pay out of my pocket first and then be reimbursed. They would pay for my schooling directly with the school, and what would be the problem with doing this, because it sounds like a like the closest you could have to a free lunch. Right. That's that's how I'm thinking. And in the other sense, I already have the money for school. So what if I come out and if I am not able to pay it back, I through working, I would have to pay back with eight percent interest. Are they? That's okay. Because what are the odds that you won't be working in the state? Right. I plan on it. I plan on staying, nobody can predict anything with life with absolute certainty. But the advantage is so strong of getting two years paid for in return for two years work. I would take the chance and say that that's worth it. Versus the eight percent financial penalty you might suffer. Otherwise. So, which side is your dad on I on your side or your dad's side of this you on my side. I think I think that, that just makes sense. I, I know that nothing is one hundred percent certain but, you know, the field you're studying, you know, the degree you're going to get, you know, your intention is to work in the state, that would be giving you this, this, essentially a two year grant, I would take the grant, and it's worth it to take the risks that the job thing doesn't work out like you intended, and you pay him back the costs plus eight percent. I think that's a good gamble. I don't even think as a gamble, one dimension to you, that, if you ever have a chance to listen to our podcast listening to us on radio, the we're having an investment special this weekend, special edition extra podcast on how to plan for retirement, and we're doing this because we get so. Many more questions than we ever got from people now that people don't have pensions and all that. And you're responsible for doing your own savings for retirement. So we put together a long series of calls from people with various questions about saving for retirement strategies to do so to give you a better sense about how you're going to do that for yourself. Jason joins us on the Clark Howard show. Hi, Jason Clark. How're you doing? Great. Thank you. You're buying your first home. Congratulations. Thank you. We're pretty pretty tight about it's been a long time coming but we're about there now. So great. How can I serve you with that? So my question because we, we've kind of taken a long time and saved up along the way in a position where we can put down twenty percent comfortably. That is so great. I never ever hear that from a first time home buyer. Yeah. Where that was one of our goals, and that's what probably took longer than it might have. Otherwise. But we've we actually went a little further. We didn't find a hall right away that we wanted. But we've saved up enough now that we could potentially put down forty percent. So we're trying to decide is it worth at the put down that extra twenty percent or is it is that money better served somewhere else? Well, okay, I'm going to give a complicated strategy for that. Okay. That is, if you put down forty percents set of twenty you could then likely take out a fifteen year mortgage instead of thirty. You've worked so hard to save money, you would have a massive long-term benefit from taking out a fifteen year loan instead of a thirty right now the spread and interest rates from thirty year loans to fifteen year is unusually wide, so you got a great deal going with the fifteen year loan instead of thirty and you build equity, so quick. Kley. You're obviously a disciplined saver. So if the if you put down forty percent your payment might even be a quivalent or less on a fifteen year versus taking out a thirty with twenty percent down, and you're going to own so much of that house, so quickly starting at forty percent of the house, you buy it will escalate quite rapidly. And how old are you Jason? So I'm thirty three. And my wife is thirty. And we've got two two young kids for in one. So think about it in your forties. You would own the house, free and clear, right? Okay. And because I can tell you live a life where you live on less than what you make. I'm not worried about you also putting money aside for retirement. Yeah, we're doing that. We got four one ks and my wife had a Roth IRA very impressed. So you're, you're set, and I would just put down that monster down payment take out that shorter term loan. Get that ultra cheap interest rate, which likely will be somewhere three percent. Little last little more it's going to be a great rate in the interest rates. We have right now and it puts you in a whole different position than if you took out thirty year loan, ten years in, you still owe most of what you would have borrowed ten years in on a fifteen year loan, you've paid off much of what you borrowed and you start off already owning forty percent of the home. That is great for your future. You're listening to the Clark Howard show. Thanks for joining us today. The Clark Howard show is produced by Kim. 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How Marketing and Security Go Together

Marketing Trends

43:18 min | 9 months ago

How Marketing and Security Go Together

"I'm Alec Baldwin and you're listening to marketing trends and the leads. Art Week. They say two is better than one. So it stands to reason that three is better than to right well, you can ask Jason Clark that question because he has not one not two but three roles at netscape go officially Jason is the Chief Strategy and marketing officer and what that means is that he is responsible for the marketing security and strategy teams at net scope luckily Jason has incredible people working for him to lighten the load but that doesn't make the work he does simple on this episode of marketing trends Jason takes us behind the scenes of life at Netscape and what it means to market and provide security transformations to companies around the world enjoyed this episode. Marketing Trend PODCAST is brought to you by salesforce. We bring marketing and engagement together learn more at salesforce dot com slash marketing. Here's your host Ian. Face on. Welcome to marketing trends I. Mean Phase on host of marketing trends. Today we're are joined by special guests, Jason, our you. I'm great. Thank you. Happy to be here. Happy to have you on the show, and this is going to be a really fun interview because you are. Coup rolled person CMO anesthesia so let's go and we're GONNA get into how you can be both what this means for your marketing prowess here super to get into it but I. so this is your first role in marketing officially is that right? That's right. It's my first official CMO role although I have served in the function of running I'd say half of Marketing Multiple Times I historically not wanted to take the marketing title for fear that it would impact my relationships with the clients and they would see me as a salesperson totally that makes sense. So what was your first start marketing? So I I was. Kind of original I was been a chief security officer and for many years and my first job I'd say call on the business side was being Hugh Shatabdi officer at Web. Sense. Job. Was Transformed the company and turn it into fourth point in much more in line. Be a top five security company player for the world and as part of that I partner the CMO Joanna flowers who was just it was the crowd strike Cmo and her and I became kind of best friends and best teammates in. So she was giving me more and more kind of marketing things to do raise Rodney part of developing the messaging bad run all feel marketing I would then. Start getting very involved in all the product marketing and content marketing having been a client are you having a? So I kind of knew the problem better than anybody else in the company. So who else better Ben to develop the messaging than to decide where we should go to take that messaging to and third rate how to drive the correct level contact so that was my first role I'd say. Nine, ten years ago in marketing and so flash forward to today you're the CMO end Sia of net scope. Can you tell us a little bit more about you know like what your marketing team looks like how do you structure your time the scope of those different roles? And so kind of kind of have three roles which is unique right so I have the security team so you could say again, chief security officer role managing protecting nets go in protecting our clients ripe. The reason for that is that keeps me super closer. The problem of I understand I'm customer zero room product and I'm projecting our own company against. The same threats that our customers are facing it keeps me close to the problem as possible. Second I have the chief strategy officer role. In that role, it is also about being super close to the problem and but that means being close to the client. So with four hundred, fifty chief security officers in CIO's a year and you know best friends with many. With a purpose of knowing the problem better than anybody else in the world, and if I take understanding that problem and I drive our go to market in our product strategy a leveraging. Than we have an advantage of I know the problems that are arising that they're dealing with are just getting started but about the big than I can direct the company, advise our CEO in the best way and then third the execution of all that rate is the marketing role. So you combine strategy marketing together in marketing then I can create the correct. Messaging you know make sure that we're we're communicating in not in the language of you know the the CTO and the product team would call something but really in the outcomes in the business values that we wanNA drive, right so you have to be superintendent and separate signal from the noise rate for for customer. So that's how really those three roles blend together. The second part of your question was, how do I design it organizationally? So I have a a so any deputy so and a team of twenty something security professionals at run the internal seriatim however idol leverage, those two individuals heavily and my strategy and marketing role because keeping their they're reviewing content there even they help their on podcast, they help create content they meet with clients. So even though that they have an internal role, I leverage from twenty percent externally. Second is the chief strategy officer function where I have six former. SEASO's I have one that's Dave Fairmont he's the former C.. So Royal Bank of Scotland Robot. CA-CANADA, Nash Australia. Is My ASIAPAC chief security in strategy officer and I have the same kind of roles for the US and in Europe, and so they meet with clients every single day and bring what they learn back for marketing and back to our product team. So they're driving sales driving leadership, but then they're also bringing back the feedback loop of everything they learn, and so I have a leader which James Christianssen for that team he's the former. So for Visa General Motors experience and Teradata, and then they're in kind of most importantly our all the stuff comes together for execution. The drive pipeline and awareness is the marketing team and so in that I have three main people. Drive a really Rockstar team that we've built were have a head of Corp coms and then I have a leader for growth marketing rate, and that's demand Gen in all of marketing operations. and. Then last, I have a product at marketing solutions marketing person rate the also and fourth, which it's there's a dotted line here. But Fourth, I have competitive intelligence as well, which obviously aligns directly with my product marketing team ensue. Selling to WHO's your kind of ideal customer profile a number one, it is the chief information security officer, right hands down, and so we're enabling not Modernisation Street program in a cloud in data centric way, right? So the cease number one second is the CIO right because all these things converging come together, the CIO and then third would be the head of network operations by. So those are the three main people are busy. Staff right architects, engineers, and all the technical people that are part of their organization and so how much of your time is spent and you're kind of strategy teams time and and your marketing teams time you're meeting with SEASO's talking to those folks you know convincing them that this is the right decision. It seems like you're very hands on Simone. You'd be involved in the sales process to some degree. Yeah. I'd say fifty percent of my time is in the field working with clans understanding their problem right and then. Then, kind of allows that's why it allows me to have this awesome leadership team that can execute without needing to be micromanaged remain can can deliver in work together as a team and any other half the time I'm coming back to them and providing all the feedback that I've learned. From those conversations as well as just making sure that everybody's kind of motivated and aligned and inspired to really achieve kind of that purpose in that vision that we set out, and so you know with fifty percent of your time. Imagine you're you're getting a ton of insights and different things. How do you feed that back into the marketing organization to create content to create events to create webinars and? White, papers in different sorts of things is you start with kind of constant. You know one on one with your leadership team that kind kinda share what you're doing because Iguana, make it specific to their role, their jobs second and it's not just me. It's also again the whole the whole chief strategy officer team of those successes that I mentioned it's them being a reviewer of all content that's external. Facing right. So there are there are contributor early reviewer of all content because in the end they are the Consumer Day were the buyer just let's say a year or two years ago, and therefore they're constantly inserting themselves into that process. Then as we build campaigns is the same thing somebody from the strategy team who is meeting with clients one hundred percent of their job, right? Not just fifty percent. Like me there than involved in the campaign design and making sure again, the words are right the messages right and even that the execution the median that we're using is gonNA is gonNA reach the buyer right? Is that where they're going right now does it sound too much like our competition? Does it sound too boring right? Because in this world of of everything's visual right now with Covid we have to. Right so constantly innovating and bringing experience and make an interesting break in not in let's say webinars right we can't do webinars like we used to. We can't really just podcast for us. Two things have to be more unique and more interesting. And have more personality to them, and in the have have more soul to it right because people are stuck in their houses and they need to feel something versus just received data you've obviously been a C.. So so multiple times you know how it is, how would you like to get marketed to like what were the things you know as you were buying products and services design forms of your your marketing spend absolutely not just marketing spend it's it's even starts with sales pitch deck A. Thing that I have an allergic to is the hey, let me spend five slides telling you the history of my company right that like you you lost me right away I already picked up my phone and started doing email. So you you have to grab my attention in those first thirty seconds and how the people that were the most successful with me with the ones that are established trust quickly right and so how do you? How can you establish an accelerate trust becomes extremely important in it's the words you. Use It's the mannerisms. It's how you back up what you say right it's not just talking the vendors who talked about all this stuff they're going to do in the future in other going to integrate all the stuff that they ought. But yet they never ever did and they haven't three years but still talking about it, I lost trust and faith in them. Right and I I knew that there truth was not real and so I think it comes down to just a going straight to the facts of. What you do in making sure you really WanNa bring value and you show the empathy for them and you went to help them and that's how you drag trust right so that's what I took away as I could ride away read the companies I could trust and the people I trust versus the ones I couldn't, and that's what I try and instill in everything that we do I like that approach from a from a sales perspective because you know when you're talking about these type of large security deals and Partnerships that you are going to have executives in the room, you are going to have a group of people that's going to be pitched. It's not you know the person buying a piece of software off the shelf that they can just swipe a credit card. So the actual sales materials matter you know perhaps more so than just what you have on your website, how do you kind of how involved are you in the creation of like those sales assets, the traditional like sales enablement piece extremely hands on I say myself in the head of product marketing no kind of built it together along with grabbing. Let's say. Our best three sales reps, and we formed a little committee and we met every single week iterating, iterating, iterating, me than taking slides. We created in that little box and I went and tested it ray before the sales team was testing, I tested myself in would see what worked and what didn't work and I'd say guys guess what I just use this one slide in it Kinda fell flat we need it's not working to change it rain. So then we invent another one and I would personally take to five or ten meetings so it's that constant iterating slide by slide word by word that's used So the answer is extremely heavily and I think it's one of the most important things that a CMO can do or marketing team can do is invent data I'll give an example you know from the time that we changed our messaging. You know there's a point in time last year where we change our messaging where we all of a sudden right after that more than doubled our pipeline growth by percent right instantly now were there other things we did yes. But the core the nucleus of that was the messaging of how we separate ourselves out in the very you know this very specific words used that super fascinating. Obviously, you put that in the market through through your marketing and obviously like into your sales team, how did you get that message out there? So obviously, yes, it's it's it's any website it's getting to the channel channels extremely important to us, and that's you know getting then get them to the have the awareness. When you start when I first started by was told by sales teams. It takes six to ten times before the light bulb go off and I almost fell out of my chair on my show that are to fix that. It should be fifteen minutes. Semi lightbulb goes off right. Ultimately, I want to get it to where you walk in the door sales person and viewing half of the lightbulbs already author to saying Hey, Tommy, how much one can he deliver it right and so to answer the question, it was every thing right? It was going to all the right events in getting keynotes on stage it. Was Lots of Webinars, lots of podcasts, email marketing, just our email effectiveness. We had a hit rate of an open rate of forty percent on our emails from single digits, just by a change of tone and messaging and those numbers are unheard of. Yeah. That's insane. Do you think that part of that is yeah. We talk a lot about like the idea of like push versus pull messaging. How much people get you know to be just obsessed with their own content calendar rate of like trying to figure out like how to produce stuff rather than like Kinda why they're producing it and just trying to hit you know number metrics of like, Hey, we need to post every day or we need to do X. or you need to do I and not necessarily like what the things that they're putting in i. mean how did you know if you're getting forty percent rate like clearly you're wanting something pretty interesting in there. How did you think about that? So you're you're spot on everything. You just said I think marketing teams focused way too much on the activity level. And not the quality and the value of what they're producing. Yes we have to have this one artifact because we just have to have this artifact that's part of the checklist. Versus. Really thinking about the artifact with the clients embassy in mind really understanding the client and I think that's the hardest thing and honestly the very best CEO's I know it's been one of their secret weapons is how much time they spend with clients, and then that they've ever have that client empathy and so the reality is that that is I think marketing team spend too much time in their ivory tower and I say this all the time I on marking team that we need to build this content best practices or why aren't we building with the people that actually practice we've never practiced it. How can we right best practices we should facilitate the process. We can't be the experts we need to acknowledge that the field and our customers are the experts and we need to tap into that harnesses cultivated and let it flourish, right? Yeah. It's. It's a great point. I. Mean. I wholeheartedly agree and I think that's part of the thing is like you know you get a really talented writer and a marketer in a room and they can create you know some amazing stuff. But the problem is like you know the the number one rule of outer right better as you gotta read more, right like that's the whole thing is it's the inputs that that come into. You know that person that that they're going to be able to write about and so if you've never. Sat in the sea or if you've never done those things, you have to be able to find the for life a better term source material from those folks of sharing how that feels. You know what their day to day is like what the things like how much time they have for this problem in their month that they devote to it how many meetings that they have just all of those little things that really matter to someone and it's just. It's really hard to replicate that and you can't just kinda right listed goals for something like this. Now, for another company, it might totally work. You know like if you know if your company that bakes bread and you're writing copy about bread, it's like writer has probably eaten a bunch of red in their life. So they can talk pretty pretty eloquently about you know how bread tastes but for B., two B., sales in cyber security setting or A. Cloud, security or you know any of the that sort of material it's going to be a totally different conversation. That's right. I'm sure people that write about wine drink a lot of wine right and they're winding enthuse. Yes I mean that is I save all the time I read something and one of my number one responses dacas it sounds like a market wrote. And the answer is marketer did write than how? and. How how do we scale the relationships of our executives? I, scare the relationship of my CEO with our thousands of clients right and how do I make them feel like they have a relationship with our company negative sense. Again, he said this war but a sense for our soul and that we're trying to do good and that is our purpose and that we're going to be true be honest and no. That's how we accelerate Dutch rescue but were not gonNa do that by signing the marketing team that's just trying to get in their heads. Yes. Agree Point I think that part of the. Part of the reason that you have a lot of that for bigger companies to is that things get noted today breath right you know just like any Hollywood movie or or whatever it is. Right it's like a million people have a take on this doesn't sound enough like our brand. This doesn't sound like you know what we would say or. And things just get watered down, watered down, watered down and. I like to say. All filler no killer, right? It's like there's no there's just fluff at the end when you take away all the edges right and that's not what gets people to Action. Right. It's like those are the things that that don't spurn people to take action it just gets ignored. So how do you kind of how do you fight that level of mediocrity? How do you fight the level of the notes that's hard by? Idea where that every day the team does that everyday. It's this knowing that we need to be. We need to be more direct and we need to be more raw more assertive but without being marmots, right we don't want to sound like we're you know we're we're doing no fodder fear uncertainty in dollar rate where we WANNA be everybody's GonNa get hacked if you don't buy our products, right? That's really But how do you? How do you balance out and say look you if you're if you're running legacy technology that isn't next Gen technology like ours, you have a big gap non gap is getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And that's Donald the evidence to have that level of again to be raw direct about it. While maintaining trust and I think the part of the way to do that is you couple it with thought leadership or you couple it with a person that used to be in their seat saying versus a sales person saying that I, saw conduct hey, look here's your appear at this Big Bang who is is saying that you know everybody needs to move in this direction. I'm trying to say to your question is you're spot on on the problem. I don't have a secret answer that I think it's something that we battle with as well. Every day who what you're looting too. I think is really interesting, which is let the practitioner say how they're going to say it and facilitate the conversations in which they can say those things and then amplify the folks that are saying the things that you believe about the future right and I think so many people focus on like creating stuff in house whether it's content or otherwise that S-, you know very manufactured rather than letting the voices that are out there. Tell the story I mean we think about this all the time because. We create podcasts so. Inherently, you're letting people share their voices as you know as part of it, but you think about like the gray webinars versus the bad webinars degree piece of content versus the bad piece of content you know like it all comes down to like you know, do you trust the person that they're actually delivering the results I talked to someone recently about marketing and? It was clear that they kind of didn't actually have. You know the experience running types of campaigns. We were talking about interest a lot of fluff right and like your listeners, your audience, your customers, your prospects can sniff that out really fast and so if it's not genuine stuff, it's just not gonna well Yup. That's it a spot on right and I think. Another you talked about using the peers writer using our customers. One other thing that we've had a lot of a lot of a lot of good success with is having our partners whether it's channel partner or alliance partner. So we have his alliance partnership with crowds strike and with Octa as an example, right, and we've been trio for over a year and a half, and the fact that these three kind of best of breed nexgen players are aligning together to take. On the legacy players, all of a sudden, we each all gain credibility from each other as well. I think that that is as a marketer you want to find. It's a great lesson of finding peers that you can co market with the problem is sometimes when you have those folks and you have maybe not as strong of a partner marketing engine is stuff can get boil down like we talked about. So now now instead of you know one legal team and one. Approval process you know how to legal teams or you know in the crowd strike Octa and you all your three legal teams and three. You Know Marketing folks and there's a lot of you know people in that decision making group. How do you? How do you kind of go about? Creating things with partners you have to have their relationship top I. Thank when you have that you kinda cut of yes. Otherwise people are going to do and I I ran into this in this partnership I talked to you about right. I had to call up one of the CMO's ends a halo. Our teams are scared a share leads for these being this great events we're doing in the end we're just trying to drive goodness in the industry and We're all trying to get people we have the same enemy, and so you know being afraid that WHO's GonNa, call who I or that they're going to call by both of us like let's just let's just remove all that we we just have to be aligned and say. Let's merger efforts. In both all benefit at the same time from those efforts in that CMO was the one hundred percent. Agree. It's Craig Solar Stellar Teams Reagan people were kind of trying to protect their own needs from their own field in. It's just it's just a mindset shift. Then I think that's a phone call to the CEO or to the CMO or to the CRO I don't know how you get away. I don't know how you get around it without that. We'll I totally agree but it's also it's a fundamental misunderstanding of what marketing is to day in today's Day and age trae. It's like the idea of creating demand around your product means that like you're tipping the point where they. Want to reach out to you that they understand who you are at the point when you are reaching out, it's not about like slamming the lead deck to get marketing qualified leads like that's just not. It's not where we're at you know I mean it's just really not especially not like for an enterprise product right lake maybe for other types of products, but it's just not like. So fighting over, you know how many people can pester people just makes no sense right and you have to be comfortable kind of in your own skin with that But the year message is going to be unique and that you have, you know you have a solution to a problem they have. Versus trying to force it upon. So I, think once you're once you decide like months once several days with that. And I think by the way that alliance all three of us we all know that every single company in the world has the problem that we solve. And it's just really a matter of their timeline. Are they ready? Are they ready to go on that journey? Are they ready to modernize security program and wishing? Do they do I wish thing they do I doesn't you know it's GonNa be based off their own needs in their own business right in that. We once we understand that. Then we can. I it's. It's less about trying to influence them whereas actually Trent about about helping them on that journey. And once again, we're helping them on that journey especially when we're doing together, we're the good guys. We're the ones that WANNA make their life easier and better because the reality is the. So job is one of the toughest jobs in the entire world totally and everybody's gunning for them. You know it's now becoming an issue where you you know you got lawsuits coming after you. I. Mean. It is a job where when I was doing it for Fortune One hundred hours being woken up at three o'clock every single morning or not using them wanting. But couple couple times a week. Right on Christmas Day I miss Christmas. Day, because of security incident. The Sea so that join my team the former C.. So for our. Scotland Rebecca Canada Day. Fair men, you know. Why become join us because he believes what we're doing, but he also wanted to be part of this marketing strategy thing. But most importantly, he was tired of missing vacations and the the the book, the camel's back was he had. His best friends he was the best man in his best friend's wedding and his boss made him aside and said, you know you're gonNA either stay here and do this job. You'RE GONNA. Go to that right and that was is like this isn't the life. I GonNa live anymore. So point is it's very tough and they need friends they need people helping them. That's on their side, and that's that's what they're looking for because it's a lonely job to, and so I think that as we market to them, that's what they're looking for. Yeah. That's a great example. Do you think about measuring those type of those types of engagements like I'd imagine that? He has conversations with prospects and customers like listen. I was I was in those shoes are a goal as a company is to prevent NEC. So from having to wake up on on Christmas morning and roll into the office, right? Like you know obviously I'm sure you all look at nps but are there any ways that you that you can measure and? Track campaigns to show success we track and measure the we talk about that Chief Strategy Officer. teeny right. We track measure the emails that gets sent out as them, which obviously have much fire significant hit rate when they're trying to recruit for an event or You know communicate anything because it's coming from person versus marketing right second we track source so. Last year that team was responsible for nine percents of all new ACV close one deals meaning they sourced it. Right. They opened the door to the customer and got the meeting because of a relationship or because they eat maybe they didn't have a relationship with a note and said, hey. Look I love your feedback I. Feel like we're doing really good stuff to help industry. Can we get a meeting rate? That's some sourcing so we measure source. And then next, we measured influence rates. So the rest of the time which you know the other they probably on their on every single day over one hundred K.. Now, that's much harder when you start talking influences like marketing, how do we measure that influence on? How do we measure who had a more important role in deal in the sales guy at the sec the the services all across the board who had more impact is very, very difficult to measure even attribution. But one thing is very clear is when you know that this is the person that opened the door. And we got that meeting because a trust. So that's about all we measure around those engagements because it's it's hard to measure the quality of engagement. Yeah. Totally. That's pretty interesting. Kind of delineating that as as an extension of your your marketing, almost like that kind of evangelist budget for the organizations that kind of have that as an extension of marketing, rather than an extension of product or something like that is kind of how how you think about I mean the I've clearly this has to be like a budgeted. Aspect I know it all falls under you. So it's a little different, but it's campaign they are they are walking camping and content. and. So the answers I look at it like marketing. I think this is part of our secret weapon. Again, it's you know how the efficiency of them, how much I spend on that to get the output I get is the most efficient spend on however it's relationships and it doesn't scale bay. So the percentage I gave you that's GonNa come down constantly over time unlike the percentage of attribution of source of what channels GonNa bring that should be increasing time right and so. Just, like our digital should be increasing over time. So it's just something that is not scalable because they're you know these people that you hire to be part of the Strategy Marketing Teamer It takes a Unicorn it takes a very unique kind of person that has been in a seat has the personality and the passion and the bedside manner to make people feel at ease, but then the help. Bella. Coach. Demonstrate them. were. Basically, kind of constantly being coaches to lots and lots of CFO's. So the answer's yes it's budgets I mean it's basic part of the marketing team but I want set the expectation that it's something that can scale because it. It just can't. I mean, how would you budget for you know the Time Spent of those folks coaching and mentoring and helping SEASO's right? It's like it's some of the most high leverage stuff with an expectation of nothing in return right like the ultimate marketing play where it's like. Trying to be helpful if this ends in business than it ends in business, and if it doesn't, then we just made the world a little better. But like that is just not something that you know the traditional had a sales. It'd be like what the heck is this you know Gimme those leads you know you make those intro sales like bill be interested when they're interested I promise. That's right. That's exactly that is I mean I think that's the I've I've seen people try to replicate this and that's why they go. Wrong. Right, away they say, tell me who you know open doors for me. I want your Rolodex in Hawaii spending time with company they're not budgeting anything for a year why why did you go sit for them for three hours or eight you're wasting your time When there's a mindset like that. lots of CEO's Rhajel out to me raid all the time saying he doesn't WanNa replicate what you've gone and it notes it's not easy. It's very doable. But every time I've watched them do it tends to be with the wrong reasoning behind versus we just want to do good for the industry would go for the world. If that's our reasoning, it's we want to help lots and lots of people it all comes back around right but these teams not afraid to ask for money either. They're not not afraid to say, Hey, listen can can we get scope in your budget this year right? But you do that once you've established a trust in friendship, do you have a favorite campaign or or maybe a least fever campaign or a learning experience over the past couple of years I mean I think you'll cova is obviously changed everybody's life right now and so everybody's you know in this work from anywhere may work from home work from. All the the grandparents house just that sick celebrated. The entire world we live in an obviously our product coming net scope is benefiting from that because that's essentially what we saw of work from anywhere to using an APP anywhere in making a new perimeter, essentially the person and the data, and so as part of that one Kobe did happen we had a campaign plan for June. That we brought right in the march, we accelerated Ford, and that's my favorite campaign that we ran so far because it was a enabling the work from home, it was our launch of our new product. which is called net scope private access, and it was basically replacing epsn's legacy VPN's. But that campaign because it was of the timing was right and it was a you know how secure your workforce in a work from home or work from anywhere world where the security controls will follow the user data versus them having to be back hauled through your data center. In creating friction for the business, they said ten thousand people go go home and the systems broke in a neighboring those workers to. Come back into the office virtually, and so we were able to spin up and how people with a campaign we launched with a week later were spinning up massive companies on this product right So I felt like we did good for the world and the campaign had significant impact. So obviously, the role of the CMO has security involved now in the role of the sea so has more marketing involved now but. There's there's definitely an intersection point how intertwined are these two roles obviously for you every day it's one hundred percent intertwined but for other folks, is there a similar sort of are they getting closer together or farther apart? Definitely Has To be getting closer together. They are both enabling the business through creating trust with clients. In, the in the in the job of acquiring and retaining profitable customers, they both have a very significant function in that. So I'd say trust is the word that starts to intertwine them and they in the end can benefit and leverage each other any significant way. The role of the CEO should be tapping into the CMO a lot more to better market internally about their program. The security teams tend to have a bad reputation inside of companies because they're the office of no. People Kinda start to walk the other way they're afraid the security team say, Hey, we got this new idea do project in the street theme says up yet no can't do that. Sorry not good for security versus how do I coach in a naval and the business to go forward and how do I market the reason behind the controls putting in That as a sales marketing functions. So I, always tell every see. So their first day on the job I tell them to go hire a marketing analyst right the higher communications specialists that's the first job I tell them to go higher whether they have one hundred people or three people as they go higher communications expert because your job will be selling all across the company you're a new program in trying to change the negative thoughts of security that has existed from the past. So do you think just Kinda like security needs like a little brand refresh inside all these? kind of what what that person can do. Yeah absolutely I think. Every every one of these needed brand refresh as A. Unfortunately probably has the time to start with a change of leadership because of some association there, it doesn't always have to be, but they should be focusing on rebranding times people think rebranding means they're going to rename the team. We're not going to be called the security team anymore we're going to be called the global risk team right, and now we rebranded versus really again driving a campaign about how they want to engage Ray but they have. To think about every decision that they're making every tool they bring in is that tool gun to stop people from doing things or is it going to do things safely like brakes on a car right? Are you gonNA bring a tour of this says riding the brakes all the time or is the breaks there to help the cargo really really fast. Okay. Let's get into our lightning round these questions or fast and easy just like marketing with salesforce. Dot Com marketing to learn more silver for springs, marketing and engagement together check him out. They've been with us since the first episode of this show hundreds of episodes ago we love salesforce check him out salesforce dot com slash marketing lighting questions. Jason. Are you ready? Yes. Number one have you picked up a hobby or habit in chiltern place riding a bike I ride like twenty miles every other day. Do you have a favorite book podcast TV show that you're binging recently umbrella academy? TV show on on Netflix. It's so good I. Love It. I just finished. It's awesome. What is your best advice for a first time? CMO really understand the product and the customer period if you understand the buyer and their problem and you can better understand than anybody else in the company, you will be successful your job if you weren't doing any of this if you were in a Cmo if you were to see. So if you're in a CSL, what do you think be doing? Good question probably teaching I could see that very teaching. Kind of Vibe I could definitely see it. What is the first place after all of the Kovic stuff is over the you're gonna go eat indoors going to Europe for sure probably one of our favorite restaurants in Positano Italy or a restaurant in Barcelona specifically that we wanna go to but we want to go to Europe. In fact, I had a plane ticket booked for sites. They'll have a book for a September Thirteenth Right now and I've just not been able to hit the cancel button yet because I know I can't go. But I have not canceled the flight yet. I love it Jason thanks so much for joining. US has been absolutely awesome. Great insights are I ever and maybe the first ever CMO slash CSO slash C.. So Mr Doodle. Jason thanks so much for coming on any final thoughts anything to. Not. This has been been awesome and look forward to. Following your podcast from here on out, it'll be interesting. Yeah. Awesome. And for our listeners, go talk to your see. So about Netscape Jason thanks again. Thank you. Marketing Trans podcast is brought to you by salesforce discover marketing built on the world's number one crm salesforce. Put Your customer at the center of every interaction automate engagement with each customer and build your marketing strategy. Around the entire customer journey salesforce we bring marketing and engagement together learn more at salesforce dot com slash marketing.

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Ep. 52 Shazam & Pet Sematary Review

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Ep. 52 Shazam & Pet Sematary Review

"Ooh. Welcome to the plaza podcast episode fifty two my name's Chris we'd like to think our patriot supporters. If you're not a supporter, and you would like to be please go to patriot dot com forward slash plaza cinema four. We'd also like to think our sponsor next level laser tag, a new company, serving wise, and surrounding counties. Call nine four zero six to seven next to book your mobile party today or check their website out at WWW dot next level laser tag dot com. Okay. So today, we have a we have a treat for you. We are actually going to be recording too. Reviews today, she's Aham and pet cemetery. But today, we will also have a new guest slash co host on the show and add like to introduce Joel to the show for forever me. So Joe this is your first time to record with me. We've kind of talked what maybe close to a we're I it was last week. I saw the post your we're looking for someone. So we're gonna sat down had a little chat. Yeah. And he I just wanted to kick it off wishes, AM and tear. Yeah. So tell us a little bit about yourself. What do you do kind of what you know, what your background for sure? Well, the funny thing is I grew up in Decatur. So I've been going to this theater since remember when you had the red chairs yet red carpet. Yeah. My dad actually helped install those when they first I really. Yeah. That's that's what he says like longtime ago. Uh-huh. And so yeah, I've been coming here for very long time. And yeah, I just kinda got some sentimental for sure. Yeah. For this theater. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like, I said been coming here for a long time. And anyways, I big movie fan, obviously love to talk movies anytime. And so when I saw posts are looking for a guest host lash co host, I was interested in so. Yeah, I'm I'm glad I was able to hit y'all up. And you know, I'm ready to start this thing and see see how it goes see what we can do. Yeah. I mean, it was fortunate that it came out with to pretty decent size movies for sure come out. So it really getting into the blockbuster season. Yeah. Route before the summer because starting in that end of April May June July. It's up. Yeah. It's going to ramp up a lot. So this was going to be. Really good thing. And you know, we just actually watched shows AM this morning. You got to actually come in watch. It what was experience like because there's not a lot of people that get to come and preview a movie with absolutely no theater or like early in the morning when it's closed down. So what was like what's your experience to doing that just felt you know, felt like you're getting to sit at home. But watching it on an amazing sound system and a way bigger TV. Right. So there's like no distractions in your, you know, just shown by yourself. It almost feels like, you know, you're in your own like I said in your own house just menu sitting. Yeah. All those you don't have to worry about like a bunch of people, and it's just be allowed or get those squeaky knowing getting knowing getting up or making noise. I feel like he can really you can capture everything a lot more. You're able to focus for sure not have any distractions totally focused on the film. Yeah. So we decided to go over pet cemetery. 'cause we cut ahead a little bit of a I guess you could say little snafu. I didn't get to see it because we didn't get it in time for me to actually watch it 'cause I actually was working today. So I didn't have no time. But you actually just got through seeing show. So kind of since I'm actually in the dark on inker. You kinda get a synopsis. Yeah. Give us, you know, your thoughts. What you you know, what you think? And maybe what you predict how to do here. Okay. Well, so. For one thing. It definitely has a it's fast pace. You know? That's one thing about Stephen King films. You know, how his books are just so long. So sometimes they they have to skip over a lot of details, and they just ramp into it really quickly. That's one thing. I felt like from the star. It doesn't really have any intro just like gets into the weirdness right away kinda snaps into it. Yeah. Which was which was good. You know, you don't wanna have to wait for thirty minutes to get into kind of how the movie's gonna feel, you know. But there for sure it is it is gruesome, that's. Oh, yeah. So it does have the R rating. Yeah. So do you. How do you feel on that are rating? It's. Oh, yeah. Is there a I mean, obviously with being rated R, you gotta be seventeen, but, you know, a little younger ones always wanna come. He would recommend like a certain age group. Oh, yeah. Like, oh, no, I wouldn't recommend probably lower than seventeen to get in. I mean because it is dark very dark, and it doesn't it is one of those movies that starts off dark, and it ends darker there. There's no like uplifting up lifting at the end. Yeah. No, here's no happy. Which is very Stephen King. You know? Well, not always. But you know, a lot of times. Yeah. And I mean, what do you think? 'cause it is basically what I've hear- heard through box off this and everything it's trying to ride the coattails of the good hit of when the it. Yeah. For sure. So I definitely think it is the better movie. But I I think they will probably get a lot of attention, especially since it chapter two is supposed to be coming out as well. Yes. So people see that Stephen King brand, you know, and they'll kind of probably wanna check it out. I kind of think Stephen King itself actually sells the name almost for the the title for. Sure. So. Yeah. And they they have several good actors in here. They had a John Lithgow and Jason Clark Jason Clark's been in like lawless. I don't know if you saw that. Yeah. So yeah, they they both do a fairly decent job. I mean, it it had actually kind of a lot of physicality they had to to go through in this movie, which was funny seeing John Lewis cow. You know, he's old, but he's like cabinet through some of these harder. And he's usually in a lot of more comedian. Yeah. Yeah. Which there are a couple very short comedic things that was he kinda in there for that little relief a tad bit. I would have. Yeah. He definitely is the most light-hearted part of film. He has the relationship with John earn not John John Lithgow has the relationship with Jason Clark's daughter. Okay. And yeah, he's he kinda lives alone all by himself. So she kinda helps connect with him. You know, bake some cookies, and they kind of start off like that. But like I said it it gets into the the grizzly nece almost immediately like thirty minutes in. There's they action has begun. Like, you're like. Oh, man. How much deeper is this gonna go and they go there. They don't pull any punches really in this one. Yeah. But I would I will say that it kind of because of that. Because there's kind of no I guess stopping to well. You know, how else horror films have that Google scene where they have to Google? What's going on? Yeah. Well, this does have one of those shows Jason Clark, and he's like googling. Well, they don't pay for Google. So it's like some weird engine that he's searching on any like searches the town and stuff, and then he goes over to John Lithgow spouse, and John Lithgow kind of have to explain the the Indian type tales of the land. And that's why these things are current like the pets coming back and whatnot. Yeah. Yeah. So that was funny. Like, oh, here's the Google search scene where they have to explain everything to the audience. Exactly. But yeah. Well, from what I've also read the studio is actually look they're they're looking at for the weekend to pool like twenty million through box. They said that could push up to thirty you agree with that. I see it going on the lower spectrum. I see. Probably around twenty and that's only because it's opening against Zam. They are two different audiences. But like Mesnier saying earlier there hasn't been as much presence from pet cemetery. As far as like trailers and stuff go all the Mark marketing on well. Now since we're both wise county Decatur natives for long time. Yeah. What are your thoughts for pet cemetery in doing it do how will you think you do here? So I I have several friends that live in the area. One of them has already seen it. I don't know if they came here will they weren't here tonight. So probably not but won several of them are big horror fans. So I I know there is a horror fan community in wise county. And so I see you doing all right. But like I said like the pool to see Shire's them over pet cemetery might kinda take away from the the pet cemetery crowd. I agree. Plus the rating is going to serve as allies county is so, you know, kid, you know, it's just focused around the families in kids under that it seems like that's kinda where gears toward. Yeah. Okay. 'cause us I plan on still seeing pet cemetery in. Yeah. I mean, I think people should. Check it out if especially if they're into, you know, Stephen king's, this is a remake they've already had one one movie, but you know, since like, you said probably riding the coattails of the it remake. Why not go ahead and remake another Stephen King, add up patient. So yeah. Like, I said, if if people are fans of of the book of the first film, I think they'll enjoy it like if especially because they'll know what they're getting into, you know, they're they're not expecting some light hearted family friendly film. Exactly wanting the, you know, the brutal like, I don't wanna spoil anything. But. Yeah. A lot of stuff goes down. That's gonna be. That's interesting. Yeah. And like I said, it's it's very quick pace. So it's not one of those films. You're having to like sit forty five minutes through while it kind of gets you into kind of the build up. Yeah. For sure it just didn't have much of that kind of just shoots you right into it. And because they're there. The the families from Boston and they move into which. I don't really know if I should say where it shows where they moved into ties in to it. You know? Oh, it kind of Stephen King always does little hints nods at all his of his novels, and so he kinda does that in this film as well. But anyways, they they're moving down from Boston because of some tragedy or you just don't really know. It doesn't tell you it. It just says, oh, we we need a place. You know, we we had to get away from there. We need a place to start making new start, basically. And so you're like, okay, something something went down back in Boston. We don't know. And so all these kind of creepy things start happening to them already. And I guess that's because of what were they were leaving behind. They didn't really leave behind, you know. Yeah. And so yeah. So I don't know if if you want me to give it a rating or anything we you know, we'd like to give some rating. You know? So definitely what would you rate this marker? Well, just getting out of it and having to process it quickly. I think I would probably go like six and a half six. Yeah. Which honestly for me is is not a bad score for a horror film like that. I'm more into like, the the mystery thriller type horror films where you have to think through stuff, and it's not just a gore, and yeah, you know, scares like that a lot like Jordan peels type of horror. You know? It's very it. Does have some of that, you know, gore type stuff, but it's mostly a thinker? Like, it's making think. Yes, a lot like m night sham lawn as well that type of horse what I'm drawn to. So this isn't necessarily, you know, my brand or anything. But so for me, I think that's kinda high. Yeah. So well, rotten tomatoes headed at seventy four percent. Yeah. Which is which is good. Yeah. It is. That's almost certified fresh level. It is now us obviously was like ninety four. And that was that was definitely there. Yeah. That's that's my kind of horror to were. You're kind of like don't know what the ending means. You're getting discussed that thing. Yeah. This kind of you know, what happens like, but like I said six point five is like if people already had liked the original property, like the first movie in have read the book, obviously, if they like those I think they're they're going to enjoy this this remake because like I said Jason Clark, John Lithgow. Do a really good job. Okay. Well, that's great. That was a pretty good review on that one. I'm definitely definitely showed me some stuff that. 'cause I wasn't really sure it's been a long time since I've seen the firs-. Yeah. I saw young. Yeah. Even then I was like, oh, this is kind of weird. Yeah. And. And I was I was young when I saw that movie as well. So it's definitely something. I wanna come see like I said, I, you know, I'm not like the massive big horrible off. I think I tend to lean toward slasher ones. Really? I michael. 'cause I real, you know, one of my favorites were obviously, Freddie, and you know, I really that's what I liked back in the day and unoriginal I think we even talked to the original child's play was actually good until they started deciding to get stupid with it. Bride. You know, it's it was just definitely you know, they Michael Myers the Halloween series. That's actually one of my favorite series, which is funny because I was just saying I'm not a huge slasher fan. But I think those kind of the the camera work that goes into like, especially the first and second ones after that. It just gets real campy. It's just funny to watch. Because of how terrible they are kind of exactly the first two they had like, especially the first one being directed by John Carter. Yeah. And he did the score and everything. And so you had a lot of long camera takes and stylish, you know, single single cut scenes, which did did you see the remake? Yes. The the remake. They did a really good job at like that deadpan like just following Michael around 'cause I actually with that one. I know I know Holloway, wait pets, but Hala weaned actually is technically the true sequel to the first one. Yes. And I really thought when I don't know you if you listen to that review on way back there. But I'm I told said that that Halloween was probably the best sequel to a movie that I've seen in a long time. I agree. I thought because it's so hard to do a re not a remake, but a sequel. That's you know, thirty years after the original forty years. Yes. Something like that. So the yeah, they they definitely did a good job with it. And of course, you're seeing a some of the original cast, and it was awesome. Yeah. Well, I know that ended up on the different topic cemetery. But it does talion because it has wash arres slasher s and you know, it's a it was a remake and stuff like that. So but with cemetery closed down. Now, we definitely our next one. We're going to get into is should SAM's. And this is the one that both of us all the sporting, and we ever we actually haven't. Discussed it at all on thought. So I'll let you kind of start, you know. All right. Do you wanna give a quick synopsis of this as well? Maybe for people. Yeah. Go right. Go ahead. So yes, she Zam is in the DC universe along with Batman and superman. And so kind of starts out with this is one part. I really liked it starts out. Giving us a good layer of background for the villain rather than the hero. And that's something. I thought added to the story because a lot of movies. They don't do that. All it always starts out with the hero. I or whatever. And so this one in like man of steel which are both in the DC universe. Supposedly, this is in the DC universe will see. But. Yeah. Like that that also started out with with the villain in those are two of my favorite movies in the DC universe. And so that was one aspect of of movie that I thought was. More rigid. Giving us a pretty good background for who the villain is. Why he is the way he is and whatnot. Yeah. I did. I did like that. But I'll keep going for an office. And so anyways, it starts out with with that. And so it goes from there, and we get to see. Okay. There's this mystical wizard type person that is trying to search for someone that's pure of heart. He's trying to search for someone that he can kind of pass the mantle onto. Yeah. And and so it it takes a while. He's he's saying that like his magic is almost out. He really needs to find someone. So that he doesn't die before there's a Newseum or whatever. And so that's when we fast forward to Billy Batson and. Yeah, it kind of gets into it right there. Yeah. And now into getting into that movie. Yeah. I did you notice that it was heavily. Like, there was a lot of heaviness into showing Batman superman. Oh, yeah. They definitely shirts store is. Like Batman superman were like, it was like really heavy to that. Yeah. It was like, oh, who's your favorite superhero Batman or superman? And so he has all those superman newspaper articles. He wore the shirt, he wore the shirt he has bullet. And then like, you know, obviously in some of the stores like one of the fight scenes. You know, there was a Batman toys a lot of that one. Yeah. Fisher. And. That's another aspect that. Speaking of always wearing shirts. It was a lot of times. It was the the brother. I ready. Yeah. The brother who if you don't know is. He played in it. He played air in it in. Yeah. So see it ties in Stephen does. There you go. And it's funny. The the guy that played the father of the villain in this. He played the father of of lex in the smallville. Yes. I as you watched. I I was wondering I went and blanket. I'm like this looked so yeah, he was from the smallville series. Okay. Hey, lex father, which he's not really playing anyone very different in this movie. He's not of this tyrannical huge of business person. Yeah. So, but yeah. So it gets in. That's when we get into the part of this movie that I think definitely I I like most out of all the DC you movies. I think because it gets into that familial aspect the aspect of family like Billy. He he got separated from his mom at a young age. And so he's like searching, you know, for community of people to to be with that, you know, he wants a feel like he belongs. He wants to feel wanted. And so, yeah, I can't remember the mom and dad's name, but they they basically Billy gets in trouble again and he's having to go to another foster family. And so that's when this family comes in and where he meets, Freddie, and his other brothers and sisters, and that's I think we're the movie shines is when. They're they're really pulling into that family aspect. Yeah. The mom and dad in there were like real just family owned. Yeah. You're on that. Yeah. Even when you know, they would do things like run away or whatever. Yeah. They they always chased after him. You know, those caring parents. So it made it like more. I guess you say realistic on that on that front. Yeah. For sure I think the only thing and I did figure it out. But even at the beginning when Billy Batson was young, and you know, he got separated and everything at first. I was like, okay it. It was weird. It was like, okay. He was right there with the mall and all sudden, it took all this time for sure kind of answers it. But it doesn't member. You're you are thinking like how easy would have been for her to turn around. Yeah. Yeah. Or you know, it's like so you knew something was up. Yes. Yeah. You knew something was up you kinda could figure that part out. But then you know, you you do kind of get some of your answers. Or your questions answered later on in the film. What did you think of Zachary Levi? I thought he did a good job. Yeah. I thought I really thought he did a good job in it. And I thought the chemistry with him. And Freddie was really good. Actually, just looking up the actor's name. Jake Grazer Jake Dylan Grazer. Okay. And so yeah, his actually leave is in his chemistry. I thought is what made the film because like I said, it's that familial aspect. And if that doesn't work then the whole film kind of falls apart, but because their chemistry was so good. Yeah. Just even even with some of the stuff like having a little bit of a generic villain Avila. N- that you know, they're they have some parenteral issues. And yes, so they're mad. They kind of want to take over, you know, even though there's some of those familial aspects. I think because of the chemistry between Zachary Levi, and Jake I. Thought that that really helped make this film at Uni thought it really kept it going along doing nicely. Now, speaking of that in that this type of movie, obviously superhero in the DC, it is a completely different movie say from managed Batman and even awful, man. The recent DC completely different type of superhero movie, you know, those are real serious in some little dark, but this is a lot lighter. But this was darker than I thought it was gonna be same. I I expected, you know, the commercials they always it's just by having fun and do. Yeah. He stuff, but then it gets into like what what the the bad power behind. Yeah. Is which we will say that dark magic magic. I don't know if we want to really get too much into what it is yet. But it is it does get very dark it does. And so that's one thing. Like, I know. No, a lot of young kids will come to see this. And I think that's gonna be okay for the most part. I think so I think there's enough of the lighthearted lighthearted stuff in there to really, you know, counteract there. But even as a kid like some of those things would have scared me a little bit. But like you said like all the the funny stuff between Zach in and the brother, I think definitely kind of pulls you out of it, doesn't it doesn't stay there. Too long. No. Yeah. Now. Now, let's let me ask you this. Are you a DC or marvel person? I so my favorite. Superheroes are mainly from the DC universe. But I've only liked like two of the DC movies. Like, I think man of steel is like amazing. I think that's very well done film. And after that, I think it started falling off already, but this one this one, I definitely Doug. And you haven't actually seen all hat not. Yeah. So I don't know about that one at you said, it's really good. I it was really good. I think D C actually did a great job in really I think it hit it out of the park with it where this is where they direction they need with their movies. And I think that's what they're trying to do. It's just kind of hard because you know, so many like we're talking about early. So many of the actors are up in the air. Yeah. They don't know what the did not like the marvel where they have some set they've had actors for a long time. Now with shoes. AM I compare it to marvel, and I know you get some of the real hardcore comic people like from the DC in marvel, you know, they don't really like to compare, you know, but to me, I should sail not power wise, just movie wise and characterize it brought it just reminded me of say the Spiderman through I'm talking about like, the, you know, Tom Hollins version because they're both young. They're both Yang fourteen and they're both young. And it's just like they don't really have that care on the world or real free spirit and things are just it's not too serious for them. Yeah. That's how I pictured Zam. Yeah. Because even the more serious instances, he still popping off jokes and stuff. Yeah. Hippie end that like I said, I don't wanna spoil anything, but there's a Larry scene where the bad guys. Trying to give some monologue. Oh up in the. Yeah. That was that was actually pretty good. Yeah. So seems like that like, it's it's a very serious scene. But they're able to pull a lot of comedic things out of it. Yeah. There's I want to ask you there's a comparison that I've seen online that. I actually agree with. I don't know if you've heard it's that they've been comparing this. It's like the superhero version of big with Tom. Yeah. And while there was a little a little too to m one in that fights one of the fighting. He he hits the piano, the the little play piano with his feet kind of steps over it. Yeah. They did a nod to few things, and they did some stuff toward the other d c would you agree then with the comparison, like a superhero version of big? Made a little bit a little bit. Because it that same thing. You know, I could I see the record Jack and see the comparison on it. But it was funny. It was it was really cool thing. I did I did like that. Now, obviously with rotten tomatoes. They have it up to like ninety three MS obviously, certified actually posted a Instagram post on Facebook of and being a certified on rotten tomatoes, and I can actually agree for sure they this is another better movie that DC's put out in a long time versus, you know. Although stuff pre wonder woman, he exact everything between like wonder woman. And which was only I think two one film. What what came after man of steel Batman versus superman, and then straight to wonder woman, guess he thinks oh no squad which that will just. Yeah. So I was just that one. Yeah. So yeah, I think they're on the right track their head in the right direction. I hope they don't. So one thing. I don't want them to just think since they're going more lighthearted that that's what's causing the more success. I don't think it's the light hearted tone necessarily. I think it's that it seemed like with this film. They allowed the talent. And they allowed the director to kind of have more freedom over the film. They wanted to make it seems like with like, especially with Justice league. It seemed like there was no creative freedom that it was. It was a studio made film. You know, and I felt like with this one. They're like, okay. Whatever. Go ahead. No one knows who am do what you want. And that's what I felt like they were able to do they're able to do what they want. And so that's why I think there's a lot more creative freedom, which I definitely like I did too. I like how that was for sure. You know, they are expecting us between that forty and fifty million dollar weekend. And I can see that. Yeah. I agree with that. I really do. I would go with the high on that one the fifty. Yeah. Because now, I I will say this. I can probably put money on it. And I know you haven't seen it. But I don't think it's gonna come near the numbers of aquaman would all commanded this. No, I don't think. So that I don't think that was decently best movie that they've they've put out, and you know, DC had a lot to live up to and I'm on the one of the episodes of recording awful, man. You know, we had mentioned Zam that that was DC's next movie. And we were saying that that should aim has a lot to live up to those because after the success of aquaman people are like, you know, they're on that train and they're expecting. I mean, Susan could make or break it. Yeah. And you know, now, obviously, it's not like marvel where this really isn't like the inches is not really going to be like that in that DC you. Yeah. It's weird. They don't really say. Yeah. But then of course, toward the end you get something. We're not going to spoil. It was that a surprise to you. It was. Yeah, I wasn't expecting that. And but you see like, you don't know because they don't really it's like a a nod another nod. It's like is it, isn't it? Yeah. You don't know. But yeah, I definitely wasn't expecting that. Now, we're not going to we won't really talk about it. But people obviously want to know 'cause they always asked there is to credit scenes credit scenes one not too long after the movie ins, there's one at the very end of the credits. But first one is the serious serious one. The second one like usual at the very end is like the comedy like doesn't really. Yeah. You know, if you if you miss it. It's not it's not something that adds to the story as it's just funny. Yes. Just the funny thing. So you definitely wanna stay for the first one for sure the second one only just want to have a little laugh more chemistry. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. So you don't expect the for you to sit there after the movie sit there for another eight minutes, and then feel disappointed bear, you know, because it's not going to be that, you know, ready for that. 'cause they're going to have a sequel they're going to have a seat. So, you know, I think it also they set it up for a sequel. But I think is also gonna depend on how well this movie does vox office L. Well, it's received rating wise, it's already met the Mark just will have to depend on the fans. What they you know, they go out and support it or not. Yeah. But did you have any negative things? We kind of talked about. The positives. I didn't have that many. Not that many. I did kinda think it was a little some on some scenes a little too like. Cheesy. Guess you could say on some of the, you know on like the Zachary Levi. Stuff's on the stuffy says some of that, you know, is like he's just real like klutzy and. Yeah. And that's that's one of the funny things that I was going to talk about too is that it in every film, especially like if you watch the first ironman, I in every film. It's like the the good guy takes all this time to learn his powers, but then the bad guy, they immediately already know how to use these powers somehow even though they didn't get until after. Yeah. Like, you know, he's having a practice how to fly practice all this stuff and the bad guy. He's just flying everywhere that he's he's like, and they got their powers the same time. Yeah. So that I found that a little weird like, okay, he's trying to figure all this out doesn't even know what he can do. Yeah. And you know, which the the convenience store scene was that was pretty good, obviously. That's. In some of the trailer. But obviously, they kinda go a little bit more in depth. And that was pretty good. I didn't enjoy that enjoyed that one. That was a good scene. But I think just some of the, you know, choose your easier aspects of it, and you know, I don't really think to me. I don't think it really drugged too much. Yeah. No, the pacing was when they were in the school because they it still meant something because of the bullies the bullies. And I know that tied into the family the family aspect of it. And which everything I thought went together, it wasn't like real choppy, and it jumped from place to place. Yeah. I really thought that it just kinda it flowed. Really nice. The pacing was good. Yeah. So I think they were able to mix the darker tones with the light lighter tones, but sometimes the stuff with. Fat. I can't remember the actor's name off the top of my head. But he was in like he was the the villain in one of the Sherlock Holmes movies. Yeah. I can't remember remember his name. But he's a good actor is a good villain for. Sure. But there is just some of you know, that like he is like this Oltra dark character, and then you have Zachary Levi, so the tones would clash a little sometimes. But like I said they always were able to kinda rope it back in. And so that's basically the only thing is kind of the villain part of a movie is what I I like, the the least I guess and even though they started out good with gallon. Exactly. You know, really showing that. But then I think they kind of dropped the ball. They did. Yeah. That's exactly what I was gonna say. They set it up. Really? Well, like, oh, I'm all like, I got vested in exactly because that's kind of almost most of them. It seems like they don't invest. They don't invest in villain too much. It's not an it's not very important. But they started off like oh, man. This is they're going to take time to address the villain. But then like you said it kind of drops off. But you know, it's not like in marvel where they built Thanos up from movie after movie, you know, 'cause those in credit scenes their ventures and stuff it's like, they built Thanos up this climax, and this character does get a little build up. But not. Yeah. Not too much. Well, what do you think this rating, what was yours on this one? I'm gonna go pretty high. I'm gonna I think I'm gonna go eight out of ten. Okay. I was actually at that seven point five. You know, I wanted between that seven point five eight I really wanted to push that v only reason like mine would be lower. It would probably closer to seven. But like I said because of Zachary Levi end the other kid like I could watch all the scenes with him again. Like, yeah. If it was just them to in the whole film like that would have been fine for me. I thought that's how well they did. But you're right like. I totally agree. I see the reasoning for going that low. Yeah. I definitely would've. But like I said, I just love the chemistry between those two. I did too. That was definitely the best thing. I think so this movie definitely is something that you should definitely come to seek. I agree. I you know, it's going to be an enjoyable time. For sure I think the kids are gonna love it. They're going to get a good laugh, even the adult. You're going to get a good laugh. There's a lot of funny parts. Oh, yeah. And like I said if it wasn't for the chemistry like, that's that's what you're paying to see for me. Like, I would pay to see it just so I could watch the chemistry between those two. Yeah. And you know, a lot of people you're going to be paying for an a movie that entertained you. And this is an it's not perfect. But not perfect. But it will painting is very entertaining. And I think it's gonna be it's very enjoyable movie. Especially before the hard core dark superhero movie comes down to this month. Yeah. In game. Yeah. That one's that one's gonna be something doozy. It is good to have as lighthearted fun one right at the beginning of the month. So obviously to wrap everything up. We're gonna mention that right now our next big movie, obviously is going to be ventures. Now, not real sure if we're getting anything next week. There's there's some stuff on the plate or not real sure we're gonna brief on out next Monday. If we're gonna get anything. So there's a, you know, there's a recipe gap on. Yes. It's going to be that soft soft couple weeks where people come in hopefully, get to see the movies. They missed like. Yeah. Us or if they wanna see Shire's, Suzanne, I think is a movie you could see because right after right after in games. It's just gonna peak after week. It's just gonna be you're not gonna have any time to catch up. No. And again, we hope with. Game with it being a three hour movie. We got the special showing on the twenty fifth on Thursday. What are you going to do a foreign seven again, though, I think this one is a belief just a six o'clock six o'clock, we're going to try to do some more giveaways, but this time if depending on the giveaways, we get not believe we actually try to get stuff from the studio owner, we're gonna try to do something maybe giveaway over the podcast do another either they seem to really like the scavenger hunt type stuff, or you know, we'll figure out what we wanna do or post Sophie. Yeah. You know, you know. So you definitely want to obviously be following us on Twitter at plaza podcast because that's the podcasts main where we put all of our main stuff and revenue info. But you know, we do link to Facebook to the cinema page, but your main thing too, you know, for any type of giveaways in like. Podcast news is gonna come through Twitter, you know, for the most part, and that's plaza podcast yet at plaza podcast anchor. So you definitely won't be following that. And 'cause we do some giveaways. We can always do some random giveaways that happens quite a bit too. And that's probably where they can find. You said you you'll have a patriot. You can do like a dollar. I mean, a dollar just you know, just to support and everything. But in is you'll you'll said last time it actually is. What helps y'all be able to do the giveaways, right? Yeah. It helps us do the giveaways, and it helps us, you know, keep this podcast kind of moving along to grow. You know, we are running that special that if you just sign up for dollar you sign up for a dollar you're going to get a free movie pass. Oh, really? So that's an eight dollar value. Nice. So really, I mean, you know, pay pay a dollar and get sue movie, you know, and you're gonna come up and get you a movie pass for just for sun. Yup. You know, we're running that special, and we're always trying to do different things. And it's not like it's like a dollar. So that you know, we can hoard it, exactly. Like, it's it helps to be able to give back like to do the cool giveaway. Yeah. The special, showings. Yeah. Just like we did tonight. We gave away some very cool vintage comic book comic books of Zam. So. People loved it in there. They really thought that was something. They look really cool. Yeah. So if that's something that we can do on a regular basis, especially for the bigger movies. You know? That's that's what helps us. Yeah. It's fun. So in it is in it is fun. 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PET SEMATARY(2019) - Double Toasted Audio Review

Double Toasted

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PET SEMATARY(2019) - Double Toasted Audio Review

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You want to go over there? Just blew. Ooh. Just cremate the bug killer ash. K win in Maine, man. So why the hell anybody wanna move there? I don't know like this pool in the movie is doctor played by Jason Clark's Clarke, you boy, I like Jason clog, man. Oh, hey by. Bye. Oh, hate him. But if you need somebody to look crazy and just look like just wore out Jason clogged. Does do wore out. You know how? Like you slowly? So wore out, he can't even a anymore. Yeah. Man. My mum. My man Jason Clark. Let let me find almost every movie that Jason Clark is in like, you know, how the Davis can just conjure snot in her nose. Jason clocking just concept sweat and dark circles under his eyes. He got like like to Burke lozad pneumonia or something. Here. Plays a doctor who decides to move to Stephen king's main, which we know is up in craze is going to happen. And if you've seen the original read the book, you know, that when they get there, of course, like whatever family that moves Stephen king's Bain, nobody can just settle now. Nobody could be happy. Nobody can just live peacefully. You know, there's always has to be some tragedy and the tragedy is because that needs to leave the horror, and that is what happens here he. Look, I'm not spoiling anything in the move. You saw the credits, you know, his. In the book of one of his children dies horrible accident. It's a gets it by truck. But fortunately in our five acres. We also bought this cursed Indian burial ground, which was not in the pamphlet. But hey, you know, what we're not gonna move worst real estate agent ever. Maybe the real estate agent was with demon from him. They bought it. There are disclosure laws where you have to tell people about things like that. Or you can be sued. But it works out. You know, they'd had they brought the cat back. And you're like, well, why can't I do that with my little girl? And have you seen that have you seen that net? Kids craziest. Fuck man did that stop. Maybe it doesn't work that way with people. No, we're worse. And of course, you know, like, I said, there's a catch to everything what looks great, and wonderful miraculous is always going to be tragic in horrendous in downright scary. Sometimes and creepy, otherwise, we don't have a movie, otherwise, we don't have a movie. Let's go ahead and take a look at the reason. Remake of the nineteen thousand nine pit cemetery which was based on the book by Stephen King will come back with our review. In the woods today. LA discovered. A charming little landmark. Pet cemetery. Place to bury pets, remember them. When seem scary, but it's not. Perfectly natural just like nine is natural. Towns being used in this place for generations, folks. Make a kind of ritual out of it. Campfire story. Saw these the trees up there their warnings. Local tribes carbon before they fled. They feared that place. There's something. I'm there. Something the dates way back. Those woods along to something else. Something. The cat was dead. It brings things back. I know what you're thinking of doing. But they don't come back the same. Daddy. What's going on? Okay. Daughter. I should never have shown that place. Your child is not the only thing we will come back. Barrier is broke. We have a second chance. Sometimes dead is better. Yeah. No. This is. I'm again to a little bit. But this ultimate white people should rain here. On me. I I don't even want to put that on white people. 'cause I don't know how you think you're going to bear your daughter after you seem church to cat looking at joyous this. I mean that cat I got to tell you that cat is one of the best actors in this movie. Got evil down that catches as a so many scenes that kid looking at people like bitch. I wish you would exactly. Build a cat with one. We're going all kinds of ways perpetually wet Bill to cat destroy. Like Franken candidate. Man. I got it. I know people don't want to hear saying, but what getting into then that's because white people again. That's that's that. Is y'all stereotype like how black people can't shut up and black people do crazy things and movies? I'm not talking about white people in general. I'm talking about y'all stereotype, and they do it to the autumn it here. Oh, yeah. Before we get into that. Let me just say that. People saying tied are remakes, and they tied to see and things redone adaptations and stuff I have exceptions. And I kind of disagree with that. When it comes to the case of Stephen King. Stephen King has done some great books in some of those books. Need improve themselves when it comes to like endings and that true. But those books have been debt there's a lot of bad Stephen King movie rave yard of Stephen King in in. You know, what you might as well bear those pits ticket? They keep coming back to. That's the thing with their original pet cemetery. It's like it's kind of thing. But it's movie sometimes dead is better. Yeah. Sometimes I'm dies. And it's best to just leave it there. And not dig it back up again. Well, but at the same time, I think that the exception is Stephen King because I think that I think that you that so many movies of his that needs that that need a remake to make better. And we've seen it work worked with the it a couple years ago when seventeen. Really good movie has some flaws from me, but I really liked the movie man joined it very much and huge hit. So people got Dan, right? We're gonna remake these movies. Back on them again. And plus I mean, if a no pets Metairie was a hit back in nineteen eighty nine. But then moves not deg. No, it's not good. If anything needs a remake, it's this movie because there's some parts of this. I mean, it just for the sake of technology catching up because I don't know how well you remember how will you? I remember the nineteen eighty nine version of pets Metairie Lau public- parts of it. Well, a lot of people forget that a Chucky the doll made an appearance in net. If you look right here. Look at this, man. Man is fighting the dummy. That's a coast to the kid gauge. Like. Like, Bradley Cooper working. He's working Bradley Cooper was working at baby in American sniper. That you see that dummy. Just you see the rubber just flopping I'm like man, even back, then some people, I know people have been like men just movie scared, but that's fake as fuck. No, hell, no, oh, we're gonna get you up for your opinion and a little bit about after this. We'll bring you up for Suzanne. But yeah, man. I mean, just for the sake of update net that dummy not see in Megan happen. Go ahead. Take do it. And I think that movie can be remade. You know for dad miss fear that it has a love to a love the atmosphere. Then that this created this film. Co directors is a co directors in this. Yeah. Well. As far as making a creepy. Look and movie I thought that they they kind of did it here. You know, looking at this. I thought that you know, for the most part the atmosphere was perfect. And I'm looking at a because the in the original the original I'll go I'll go in a little bit. But you know, the atmosphere the atmosphere atmospheric movie almost works too will because the movie ready starts out just being kind of creepy. Looking you know, 'cause I'm looking at this. And I'm like man to hell with main. Why would you wanna move on this far? Yeah. Right. Because it's so remote. I mean, the whole idea is like, hey, we'll have easy life. We can spend more time with each other. But can't we spend more time each other's somewhere else? Yeah. They bought. So they got five acres out there in everything that they got here. Everything on his five acres looks like stump some out of sleepy hollow. You know, everything is just a little bit too creepy. They got creepy down too much to wears kind of you know, at the move is kind of suppressive. Suppressive before it gets gets in there. Why would anybody wanna live? That's why I got a question when I say like the white people stereotype busy. Why would you wanna live on something that lives like that? Why you wanna live somewhere where Tim burns run around at night, put swirls on everything everything the nightmare before Christmas. He got the creepy kids. Long live somewhere where the neighbors kids walking by looking like evil, very convention. I don't even know these kids man kids walking by playing drums Burien shit. Every other day are y'all killing the animals to them. It's like, why do you wanna live here, man? Why you wanna know why? But, but I will tell you this talking about the originally had needs to be made the original. The regional did do something that this movie. Didn't do the regional really is a really goofy. Phil. May the Lord bless you and keep you. There may the Lord make his face to shine upon you. I did something really. Put him up there. Herman munster. Fred gwynne. He was really good in that movie, but the ridge kinda goofy. But I would tell you that one thing it does have over this movie. I think they got the that last got more balls in this one because the reason why now one of the things that they did change in this film is instead of instead of the toddler that they have in gauge they killed the girl who's about nine years old. It was almost like they just didn't a kid is. So Cutini originals almost like this remain. Just didn't have the heart to do it. Again. They wanted to switch, and you know, if everybody was expecting it to be the toddler they like, I got. Yeah. But, but like this movie, the ninth the the twenty nineteen man we can't do that to this kid, and we do that again that movie back in nineteen eighty nine fuck that kid. They just didn't kill him they demolished that kid. No. Somebody get this. I'm old. I, hey, hey. You don't do. You'll kiss him. Flying. Got it gauges flying. You got it. Honey. So cute. I'm telling you, man. That's why they didn't want to do it. We just can't do this. They saw their originals. We can't kill this twice. Not just too much. Most responsible fucking parents. You know, I thought that with the new one, but I guess it's it's in his DNA. Incan right around. Sorry as parents guide right here. Remember? They really are probably Bissett back and shit. Probably business kid did go does leave these parents his family. Until you back. He turns back, but no reason. Goes cube smeared all over the road. Editing. That's bad. Star Wars moment. Yes. Too late now. Trip. Just trip. He tripped. And his laid there. To saris. Sorry. You didn't you didn't deserve that kid. No, eat this. You know, what that was God's taking their kid eight turned his back on that kid to look the family just to laugh as for no particular reason. We'll be back in a minute. Okay. Good. Yeah. Now. Yeah. God did y'all fame boy insurance? Cute, by the way, that kid comes back looking just as pristine and nice eagerly heat, man. He his ass would've bap rate his hair. He would have been here. Yeah. Would've been number red yellow it would've been mustard on the road. But yeah, that's one thing that this movie didn't do. Instead, they they kill the daughter, and they even did an away where like they didn't have the damage the body that much because well, we gotta have come back. But, but you know, what like I was saying man, you know, it's the movies doing a lot of great things in the atmosphere. Even though like they're doing too much some creepy stuff doesn't even make sense to me is like like, they're creepy things. They happen before the store even kicks in. Well, that tells these people that they need to go like before anything happens if you move into a house, and all of a sudden, you got a zombie or a zombie puff daddy. Oh, yeah. You gotta zombie puff. Daddy, coming after you're telling you get out, then you fucking leave. That's what I'm saying the ultimate white people shit. They just stay. That they've seen dead things come back. And then just kinda like, well, let's investigate more. Yeah. Well, let's see where this goes. Yeah. This is ridiculous, man. That's what I'm saying. Like. You know for me. I think that it's not a big problem for me. But I think it would have worked better head things seem normal in then in the power of the of the cemetery kicks in. That's when that's when things really start to feel frightening. That's the basic Tenet of an effective harm movie in a so many of them missed that. Yeah. And I think that's one of the problems that was done here is that. You know, they they do such a good job as setting up. There's this is hundred house atmosphere that they got going on. They got spirit showing up before anything happens that. All right. You know, what I'm kind of used to the creepy is now and back. You know what? That's Joe fall. I was just went through head some of it saying, well, I'm not even scared 'cause I think I'll just stupid. I mean, you know, held the the the property value goes down know when black people move in but shit went dead. Black people start showing up every time. They racist. No Lee white flight is okay. Yeah. Right. All right. But it was the, but then it got to the point where. As silly. As original might be, man. I thought that this one start like brain bring better drama to it man on I'm not trying to do this. Where compared the while compared the the original to this because I think that for me with this one I felt the, you know, say what you will about how they lost a kid. You know, felt the loss of these parents I felt like I know why they want to actually bring this child back combined with the draw the supernatural to which kicks in you can just kind of you know, when when when the family kicks in is combined with the hurtin emotions that that they feel then I start to feel something for these characters to in. No. No, I do like the cast here. There's a scene in here with the with the wife who's played by Amy Simon's. Thank you may even be Australian there's a moment here where it goes from us two of them. Yeah. That's right. 'cause Jason Clark is to. This so many things that happened in the seem about to show you man because it goes from being. It goes from me freaky to heartbreaking to terrify. And and and like I said, I think all the people who are in the full these bringing up these emotions all these confusing emotions in one point one part is really something that is affected for the people that are watching. Wasn't ready to say goodbye. Scaring one phone. She died. Bring him back. A place rate. Stephen. Beyond. Brings things back you happy. Mommy. You don't get this shit off. The fuck is this. What did you do kinda Frankenstein shit too? What did you do? Who? Who? Let me just time. I don't want her here. Tom to. That's what another truck. I don't why the mom went upstairs rather than just go get in the car and leave. I that's debatable. I think you like this moving less than I do because I actually liked this movie. I, yeah, I do I then I definitely like less than you know. I think that there's some things and here they make you think about an in. And I really liked this actress here Detaille Lawrence name. She's the nine year old daughter that gets hit. And I think she does a good job as seemed like just come kind of aloof nine year old girl, and she comes back. She is evil as fuck man to the point where you don't even get scared him. What you just hate highest. It's she I think she plays that. Well, she plays. The reason why I think she is. She's so good at it. Because she's she was so she was such a child because she is a child. But when she comes back, she's an adult as demon, man. She is cold. And she does that. So well, I think she overplays it. I think she plays it so evil that no one would for second goal. This is my daughter, maybe this is going. Work out. It's so just just like when when church the cat comes back. Brought the bet you like not it's fucked up. This is not this is not our cat anymore. But they explain it in the movie, they don't want to say how. But they do explain why would somebody go to this point where they would do such an insane thing. And they and they said actually about three times in the movie while would happen. In. And I saw I mean, you know. I'm not I'm spoiling thing. But just you know, it preys on grief peop-, the catch people when they're week almost like this place needs these meet the needs for these it needs these people to do this. And so that worked for me, and I don't get it doesn't work. I mean 'cause I are things that a lot of flaws in here. And I think in how you look at those flaws as gone onto pin? How you how you approached movie are you walk out of this movie? 'cause I. One of the things that I really enjoyed about it as where ended up I walked out of this movie. And I love ending for this. I you know, I 'cause it's not an easy ending is not one at all. And it's one of those endings at I think, I think it can effectively hunt people when you leave I in a way different from what they did near ridgeville. They do some things that faked people out in the film, if you've seen their original for those who haven't is fine. And I gotta get the movie credit for something else, man. Because I think that the I think the film also avoid it sudden up atmosphere, so well that it avoids jump scares are there were a lot of moments where I was waiting on something to jump out. And it didn't is. You know, it's a steady gradually pace film and moments where you see things that you think are going to jump out at you that lead into other things that lead into other darker places in I. Yeah. I as. This one without doing anything new is not doing anything, especially I mean, except maybe doing some stuff from the from the original. It's it works. More sort of a sort of a chiller, you know, Chila har- movie, man, you know, is something as opposed to make you get a little freaked out. Give you some chills give you some scares. And you know, and even keep you on edge with suspense. And I like a man there's certain things here that also like as far as the cast goes. I really liked how what's his name a hermit next door. John John Lithgow. Yeah. I like John Lithgow in is man. John Lewis guy, Donna, and I don't think I've seen him on on a movie in a while. He's done some TV except for that damn which called it movie. Man. That's why I like him in this much. He was playing what was playing will Ferrell's dad. Oh my God. He's still stuck on still mad about that. Yeah. Movie sense. That's Harlem Harlem movie, I thought. I thought he was good here. You know, he's a he's a guy that I thought that he catching what the the pet cemetery does to people very well without overdoing it, you know, without over explaining, you know, mostly told the story into this character because you wanna get mad at him for some first. And then you realize I feel for this guy. I did. Yeah. I enjoyed this movie. Man. I'm gonna wait to give it a rating, but other let you go ahead and margins. No, he's waiting to unleash. I'm not gonna. Yeah. Go ahead. What else what more about the stupid? Oh, well, maybe you can't finish. I had a very interesting experience watching this movie. 'cause when it seen it south by south west, they had a parade of little kids in those mass come out, really. So you seem in the movie like oh shit. And I was like, wow. Did they actually didn't mean a whole lot? When you get to the thing is sitting there watching movie is a lot of cast and crew there, and they were pretty annoying in that in the opening credits. Every time a name came up. They would just cheering my, you know, where you I know. I know I know, but this was like, but it's not with every single name even the producer's name you like mar in scene is happening getting big into clap infringing. They were they were. I mean, you know, I'm sure they would drink in there, patting each other on the back because they were a lot of them were in at a worked on it and the movie gets going, and I actually found it very creepy ineffective. I was like oh shit. And there's several times. It got me wasn't just jump scares things. I jumped out of my skin like oh shit. And and with the audience know, they were -fected, and it'd be kind of nervous laughter from that. But then then nervous laughter turned into just laughter. And I gotta say of all the movies. I saw about south west this year. No movie gave me bigger laughs than this one. And it was all because I mean, I talked about with us. What it where you had the family who was making? They hey, they were doing everything. You would do. I watched this. I was like, wow. This these the worst parents ever, they don't the Mondo wanna teach the kids about real life. They've moved to this place that clearly is not going to be good for them. They live on a road where semi trucks, go eighty back and forth down it. But they never teach their kids don't play in the goddamn streets. Something that every parent teachers kids, but throughout the movie the longer went on the more. I was like if you know, it's like, they have a Terminator screen, whatever smarts on what to do. And they always picked the worst decision. And it got to be that way. Where when the cats showed up how how jacked up the cat looked? It was with was funny because like, okay, this is clearly evil, and they still try to pretend like like, oh, no, no. He's just a little weird. But it's right. And the more went on the more everybody, I've talked about these people who made this movie will laughing their asses off. And I was too. I was like, you know, what I don't. They is good at all. But I'm having the best time laugh at how dumb every everything that happens in here is and there's just no point of logic whatsoever. I can't attach myself to any of this. And once again with Jason Clark. I don't think it's terrible actor, but he just has a way of not bring a lot of emotion, or empathy. I think so many different actors who could have been his position where I would have been sympathetic for this this dad, but the more he went on to Mars was like, oh, yeah. Man. You seem like you're not that into it. And. And nothing doing is is gonna add up to anything. Yeah. I know you say the supernatural taken over him. But he was that way from the beginning. I didn't even see a big change in them. The one actor. I was counting on was John Lithgow because John Lithgow he's one of he's actually one of my favorite character actors, and he can be in a lot of movies that are bad. But I always enjoy his performance in here. I thought he was all right. I mean, I never really saw the first the original pet cemetery. But I like what Fred Gwynne brought. Yeah. And John Lithgow here. He's pulled back. He's not Fred Gwynne. Yeah. But they're there times when I feel like he so pullback like he he he gave his good performance and beginning when he said everything up and then from that point forward he was just like, well, I'm just kinda here. I'm just going to just ride this out to get my check and eat lot meets a Maine lobster while. I hang around. The I the more went on the moors like, you know, this felt really fresh like they were excited about it and doing some new things. But after a while, it's just it's just a typical harm movie. I don't know the facts, they do not really not really gain anything from this. I'm not watching them go through things where I improvise with them. They're not doing anything new or fresh. I mean, maybe they're doing some switches from the book. But for the most part, I was like, yeah. This is like the all the kind of dumb harm movies that I don't like watching and especially after seeing us, and I think back this. I'm like, yeah. This that's why I said this is not doing anything new. If you think about us, some hard stuff, just come out us, quiet place. It's been some things that have been doing innovative, you know, some innovative things are, you know, some things mitchen. Thank even if they weren't perfect like us. But that's why I said this more of a chiller. Yeah. I mean by the ending found silly. Yeah. You know, I really liked the ending. What would you? Okay. So what would you rate it? They're honestly, it's it's a close to being a summa bullshit. But I will give it I I will give a low rental in as much as Mandy. I was generally scared in the beginning, it it really was affected on me. And I have to give it that. And you're right about the atmosphere. It has a great atmosphere to it. It's just where it ends up by the half it. It's really at the halfway point the first half. I liked the second half. I didn't care for it. All okay. Well, you and I of very different on this. I'm giving this a high rental. Got them much. No, no, no. I like it. But you and I flipped on it. Okay. The like Alice buddy talking with Chris. He was the same way. I really liked where it went. I really do like because the things you say stupid. I get the stupid part is fucking STAN. And you write about the road. I'm like, man, you know, that's a that's another thing about this movie with the, you know, with all these creatures and everything and then you've got the trucks to worry about to going by. Okay. Maybe in the regional that one truck. But in this one you'll see two or three trucks go by those. So that's that's the thing. Say, hey kids. We'll we don't go out. There was trucks that loud. Deafening noise. You hear? Yeah. That's danger. Build a fence fence. That's what I was thinking about the place the fucking trucks out there. Yes. You've got the chemical plant is right down the rose got fucking process between Christina Optimus prime van by every fucking. The beginning of this. I did not like man, you know. That's what I was saying. I just I I didn't get it. I was ready to write this off. Because I was like I don't like this. I don't I I saw the original. And I don't like them as I don't like the mysterious, man. They are hardly a dumb. But but I got to say I did fill for them when they lost their kid like all right? You stupid. But I mean, you human. But you sit and you send a bed in the first buck in place, but since we hear obviously, not leaving even the whole thing with bringing the cat back. It's like, dude. Are you my friend of what? Got that. I, but sometimes somebody could tell you why did it and you like I don't give a shit that. I'm sorry. What you did that goes way beyond the pale. That don't go beyond demonic powers. I thought I was helping. Don't come over my house anymore. No you girls possessed by demon. But she got it on my suit. Fuck. What's in there? Money for this drags lane. C do some with this. You're not gonna go way out in the woods clam. All this shit's might bring this two different spines. I like I went to places I liked love the ending of this movie. I love and I give it a high rental, man. Almost a mad neighbor. There's just too many dump things. It's too fucking stupid stupid is in the beginning yours later. They'll let us make a movie together. They once. Be really smoking would be. Yeah. Yeah, man. But yeah, there you go people. It's you know, you get a rental on way another here. Mine is very high yours is low depends on what you're looking for. I'm not lying, man. I was laughing so hard. Yeah. I mean, again, that's why I don't like going with with audiences man because they either you know, they go to one extreme on other. I don't like these festival screen is at knowing that don't eat it. That's why I was surprised. I mean because records are that. I'm like, I wonder what they think of this because the audience laughing clearly, not a comedy. Yeah. Hey, it's they're people who are laugh in the most. It makes me mad that they didn't laugh at the beginning. The parts of looking at. It was stupid. They're done. Anywhere, you go people take pick. We're kind of split on this kinda in a way. 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Recut of Mortal Engines Teaser

Trailer Junkies Podcast

27:25 min | 3 years ago

Recut of Mortal Engines Teaser

"Peter Jackson, why. You sold it better than I did. Yes. Where you only have trailers and posters to judge a movie, Jim and ten strikeout to answer the age old question, will you see. Ted, how's it going tonight? Good, Jim. How are you doing? Awesome. Looking forward to another awesome action packed show definitely looks like he retreated into the house. Yeah, the recording studio, aka my garage as a little bit. Chilly tonight. Probably like I don't know, low forties. I figured I'm coming into the house. I don't care if everybody sleeping. Yeah, this looks like we have a pretty good show tonight. Awesome. You know, so, but before we get into it, what's been going on with you? Not much doing a lot of homework with the kids finishing up packing up the kids teachers presence that time of year we got all that all that going. Yeah, yeah. Last week show came out on the twentieth by five days before Christmas. This one's coming out on what the twenty seventh, two days after Christmas and the end of Hanukkah, and all that. Just wanted to wish everybody a happy new year and happy holidays. Sarah, we missed that last week. Definitely. And speaking of which I know we're speaking into the future, but we just bought our Christmas day, Star Wars tickets. All right, there. It is. Yeah. And with that, I became the stall GIC so I was looking at the nineteen or well, what the late nineteen seventies early eighties era space Legos with my boys and and you know, thinking about, you know, the past and how I used to like that, especially, I don't know. That would have been the time when when I got those that would have been about the time of empires. So pretty exciting. So yes, speaking of Star Wars and Saifi future mortal engines is on the chopping block for tonight. Yeah, they it said the official release, but what I recall what it looked like was teaser release it. It was definitely a teaser. Yeah, I didn't think it was great packaging for the trailer either. So not sure what the think of this one. It's like steam punk on steroids. Yeah, I was not. I was not a fan of the trailer. There wasn't a lot going on. I think this. So this kind of falls into one of the things that I was. I've been talking to you a lot about and other people about about I talk about trailers. It's really more of a lift more of like a a scene within the movie that they've taken and just played out as a trailer. It has very little dialogue, which is sometimes okay, but it doesn't. It doesn't really move. It isn't true to showing the all encompassing action in interaction of what I hope is a much better movie than this teaser trailer. And you know, I think I think, like you said, if they had package it as a teaser, even if they called it a lift, I think it would have served better. I don't remember Hugo weaving. I think we have one main character that is masks for most of the time. Right? She was looking through the eye piece that was kind of. Like I said, steam punkish. Yeah. I mean, it's all it's all steam punk. I mean, the only cuts in it are the cuts where they do the pre roll of the trailer before they do, you know the radios that put it together and that was, you know, when we look at the trailers that we've already done. Yeah, even if it's Paddington to or whatever, meet lots in lots of jump cuts regardless of where they are within the trailer. They're jumping all over the place, giving you a taste of what's to be expected when you go see the film, definitely with this one. Just the one seen that rolls out roles. Yep. I, I don't know what I mean. I don't know what to make this one. It's just I definitely need to see more of it to know whether or not you know, I'm even committed to watching on on Blu Ray or something. The girl. She seems interesting. She seems like a good heroin for the story, but to see your eyes to not see your interact with anyone to just have this suburb this little town eaten up by London with no, no Hugo weaving much going on there. So I just, you know, if you're going to lift do a lift that has something that can move people. So define what you mean by lift for the audience. Okay. And in this case unpopular audience, I don't know what that means either. Yes. So there's a lot of different ways. You can make a cut downs in different pieces of marketing for long form movies in this case. So a lot of times when there's music or a big scene or a sneak peek than you want, like a lefty want like a piece of the movie that makes sense in in of itself and is kind of self contained, but it doesn't neces-. -sarily speak to how the whole moves gonna play out. Okay, I Gotcha. Yeah, trailer needs to like take a little bit here in with their. And that's part of the reason you feel like it's really jumped cutting when you see a really good trailer in the trailers like clipping along at at this seemingly faster pace than the movie because now say it's a high pace, right? Yeah. So this has the pace of a regular movie. And the only thing I can think is maybe the Peter Jackson has like a little bit more of a say in a might wanna keep this more mysterious there. There's a lot of Laura's Agassi's. I talked to more people about how they watch trailers. I have run into a subset of people that don't watch any trailers for annually and they kind of they kind of stay away. It's go to movies, blind is what they do, or they try to go to movies blind in specially when they really like a movie. They don't. They think that trailers have spoilers. I guess, you know, they some do, but they would. They wanna go in pure. They wanna go in the last Jedi without having seen. In a single frame of anything or heard a single thing of anything. So that's a small subset, but I get what those people are doing. I think maybe filmmakers like Peter Jackson, maybe he's playing into that with this with leaving the mystery of who the girl is in what he waving looks like and things like that, but I don't know. It doesn't. It doesn't move me to want to see this movie. Who's the audience for this movie? Who is the audience for the movie in? Is this trailer speaking to that audience? I think, yeah, you have it with your steam punk. You have it with kind of a Goth, look distorted future. I also thought it's kind of a metaphor to millennials has at because millennials are kind of leaving behind the suburbs to back to to move back into like an urban landscape urban environments, and in a sense, this movie kind of screams like gentrification at its worst. Yes, this is hot high octane gentrification? Yeah. I mean, literally high octane. I mean, I don't know how they're paying for the gas for this thing, but or diesel or I don't know, but, but you know, the thing about it though is when we look at gentrification, you're kind of consuming. What was there? You're changing the landscape in the environment, the urban environment, and you know, some people might argue makes a better. Some people argue it takes away from the poor, whatever it might be. But the thing about this one, it seems as though they're gentrifying this little suburb and consuming it into London. And the one thing about movies is the all too often address the time period they're made in and they talk about the politics of the day and what's in the in the forefront of people's minds and things of the time in which they're shown. And maybe that is part of it. Maybe it is part of it, but I, I don't think. Trailer serves that I don't. I don't look too deep that that deeply into this telling of this scene from this movie and I'm may be thinking of the greater movie, not necessarily the trailer. Yeah, exactly. I mean near you because it's the gives you so little to go off of, you have to like, try to figure out try to connect the dots, but I just I choose not to. I think, Peter Jackson Hugo leaving interesting to me both of those things. I like like Peter Jackson's movies. I like Hugo weaving an actor, but I don't see see him. There's nothing cinematic in this that screams Peter Jackson either other than his name emblazoned on a card. So I'm sorry, we talked about shape of water last week, and I, I did hear a great interview with a gear mo- del Toro for that. The director for that movie. He talked about making that movie in talked about the poster and the trailer, and he had final cut on everything that came out all the marketing and everything, and he made that movie. For very little money in his case because he just come off Pacific rim at two hundred million dollar budget, I think. And he made that movie shape water immediately after that for under twenty million dollars. So for him, it was like nothing for a younger filmmaker. Be amazing, you know, huge, blockbuster, twenty million dollars, but he made that movie for pennies on the dollar for what he was used to. And he got final cut. And maybe this is a maybe this is a place where Peter Jackson has final cut in. This is what he wanted to put out and it didn't wanna traditional trailer. He didn't want like a trailer company cutting together, his stuff, or maybe it's too soon. They don't have enough of the CGI finished and this is this is the scene that they have finished. It looks like a heavily CGI movie. Yeah. The final fun I had about it though is, you know, with this particular scene that they're showing the bigger city of London engulfing would appears to be a suburb, I guess. And. The rolling through kind of the countryside. It's kind of like a cliffhanger. We're going to have this big city capture this little town in Gulf it consume it. And then we're going to keep you in suspense for either the next trailer probably for the next trailer. So you you want to see more and then ultimately the movie to get you coming to the to the theater because it's just all about the suspense of what in the world happens to this little vehicle that for all intents and purpose is huge in and of itself gets eaten. I mean, I guess I'm interested. I'm interested in seeing another trailer for this. I'm interested in seeing trailer to. Yeah, I wanna see where it goes. I'm interested in seeing how Hugo weaving is portrayed or dressed up or what he looks like this movie considering he has very different looks throughout all of his performances. So as it stands, I'm probably not gonna see. In the theater as it is right now. How about yourself now? Not not. Gonna see looking forward to more trailers. 'cause I know 'em fan, but we'll, we'll see, we'll see where it takes it, but right now are touch, so you're not going to see it. I'm not gonna see, right. So that leaves one question. What is your three word review for mortar Lynge Ines. Some mortal engines gets Peter Jackson. Why. Fly guess his name is two words, and yeah, that makes sense. Heater, Jackson and washers and the wise wise all caps because I'm, I'm, I'm kind of really upset at him. Yeah, for this outing. Oh, and I guess last thought as as universal comes across in you think of dystopia future movies. I just have to mention Waterworld and I think it Waterworld got such a bad rap when it came out. I love that movie. I'm a big fan and I am unapologetic about being a big fan of water worlds, and you know, Kevin Costner and that betrayal that movie. And this feels like the Yang to that Yang because it's like desserts and all. I think I think universal did something great with that and we'll see if they pull this off. Alright. So Peter Jackson, why. You sold it better than I did. Yes. So with that said, how about we move onto the crazy circus of the greatest showman. Awesome. So yes. So the greatest showman there's a couple of things of that will will discuss the trailer, yellow lemme know which trailer. Well, I was thinking more of the live commercial during the live Christmas story. I thought that was kind of a cool juxtaposition. Yeah, so Christmas story, they did a live show a live performance of a Christmas story, enduring the live performance of Christmas story. They did a number of a dance song dance number from the greatest showman with all the main cast, and it was. It was amazing. I mean, I, I appreciate the practice a well choreographed and the choreography and all the rehearsal that goes into something like that. I was not tuned into watch a Christmas story, so I was kind of upset about that. But I guess. S. seeing it after the fact was still very moving to see them perform a number from the movie in this fiasco away. Yeah, absolutely. Like you said, I mean, you know, well, choreographed two minutes two and a half minutes. Yeah. I mean, I can't say enough about it. I mean, one thing I do enjoy is going to the theatre. Hugh Jackman has a deep background into theater not to mention all the movies. He doesn't everything which brings me a little bit too. I know we keep talking about typecast and things we can we out. But I mean, the only thing is whenever I see him, I can't help, but think of wolverine. You, you get stuck in wolverine. Yeah, I get stuck. It will ring, but but no. I mean, he's a great actor. You got to admit that. I don't know if I'm gonna see this one of the theater, my guess is probably not. I know I was talking with my mom the other day and she's super excited to go see it in the theater because that's cool. They winter in floor. And they went to the Ringling Brothers museum down there. And she was so excited about the museum that this movie came out or as I guess, it's it's just released a few days ago at this point or about a week ago, and she really excited to go see it. You know some great. Maybe I'll go see it, but I don't know if I'll see this one in the theater, but I would say overall of this, you know two and a half minute commercial live theatrical. It was more of a theater type piece. I mean, it was incredible. I mean, they had to choreograph all the extras, tons of extras singing dancing, the cameras that were were used throughout and then all the way down to the very last frame. I, you know, like I expected there to be a little bit of, you know, just a superimposed, graphic of with a date call out to the movie. But instead they pull up a piece of glass with the greatest showman in December twentieth written on it, and it just comes up from the bottom. I'm like, right, practical, practical glass to be superimposed, practical, superposed, graphic. Yeah, knows incredible. And you know, the other thing that I loved about a two was, you know, seeing the back lot of Warner Brothers studios. Yeah. I mean, it was really cool. I mean in I've had the opportunity to be on that lot of few times my cousin works at Warner Brothers. Cool. That was fun to see. And it was nice to see that they didn't worry about what was in the background. So you kind of see the modern buildings, you see the water tower. You see all these other things that if it were a movie set, it would have been cinematic -ly so much more Brady. Yeah. Maybe they would have added grain to the image and so on. But it was so clean in almost like, what do they say when you when you have to have a frame rate and stuff? It's like a Mexican soap opera. I mean, it was kind of like that, but it was. It was really cool. I thought it was thought it was well done. Yeah. And even the caught the excitement of everybody was involved at the end. You could hear people yelling and screaming. And I think somebody even says like, we did it, you know? So it's like, yeah, yeah, it was quite the circus they. They were. They were definitely, you know, holding their breath to try to pull it off. So, yeah. Yeah. So I'll put you on the spot here. Do you have a three word review for the greatest show? Men live commercial so that live commercial out here is here. It is. It's it's a huge act man. I like that. That's bad. That's very bad pun. All right. We'll stick with that way. Yeah, but we'll go with it. Huge act. Man you want stick with is. Okay. No. It's it's bad, but I get it. I get it. That's pretty good. You put me on the spot. I didn't have one, so we went to the well, I kind of had a feeling you didn't. So that's why I went. That's why I went there. Or anything, you know anything further? I think I've pretty much exhausted that one. I mean, it's just a live commercial that, well, I guess the the, the theater piece for commercial. Anything else about it? Overall? I like the the other pieces that are out for this for the trailers will just just give the overall marketing feel. I feel like it's got a great marketing push seeing a lot of out of home, and I'll answer your question for you. Ask out of home to speaks to all of the print advertising that's in round your surroundings when you're outside of the house. So there's billboards bus enclosures. Bus wraps all that just called out of home. So I guess there's there's kind of three big sectors where people are trying to hit you up with movie marketing in it's TV spots where it's in your home. And as those, the shorter ones trailers which traditionally are in the theater in front of other movies and then out of home is the third place that tries. Hit you up when you're out in about Ray the out of home spa spots for this, the posters for this a really cool. I think like like the way that they're, they kind of capture the motion of the circus in the stills. Looks like it's just fun like you're gonna go and have a good time. Yeah, and it shows like Sunday on a trap es and she's flying through the air in. It's kind of blurry because it's got that motion blur on it. So as a photography guy, you know how that is right on not totally. Like I said, it just looks like in overall fun night at the movies like you're not going to be disappointed in. You're gonna come home, happy instead of one of those kind of end of the world movies or something. I will be interesting to see how young this can play. I did. I did ask did talk to my wife about possibly taking the kids. It felt like maybe it can go into their space, but it is definitely one that we have to watch. I then see if the kids are old enough for. It Sears thinking it may not be a four quadrant movie. Yeah. I mean, I think they haven't sold it in the marketing as such, right, but but I think it could reach there. And I think overall, it's in a stall GIC film because as a kid, I went to the circus you know, the old Chicago Stadium and it was Ringling Brothers, Barnum, Bailey, Circus. And nowadays I don't think they're the circus who travels anymore. I think I think that particular circuses retired. Yeah. I think the animal focus circuses are all gone now. I think it's all circus away and acrobat than strictly strictly acrobatics in waterworks. And overall, I would say that's a good thing. I mean, we don't the abbey, you know, like whatever the guy the the, the lion tamer with the chair and the whip. Right? Or tater tasers elephants or whatever, you know who need that, right, right. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, overall, yeah, that's a good thing. But at the same time again, there's the showmanship of the era that it was in. Yeah, and in what it in in the way it is. I mean, yeah, something has been lost. Definitely the cost. The cost was too high. You know, totally. I used to work for us to work for a manager who used to be a clown and he ran away with the circus and he was with the circus I think for eight ten years and he loved hanging out with the elephants and he would just spend the downtime between clowning around with the elephants and he he over the course of those years. He felt their pain in east side in there is a new that this was not where they wanted to be. And you know, when I met him, obviously was much later in life in the long left that, but it was one of this big causes that he would champion was helping free the elephants in elephants sanctuaries in all of that. So it was it sit amazing thing. How easily elephants can kind of connect with humans in an just show their pains though it's sad, but it was. It was good to say the we've moved on from that. Yeah. I mean, elephants Tigers lions all the big cats they had. I mean, probably chimpanzees. I mean, you know, whatever, all kinds of animals that were captive for human entertainment. But yeah, I mean, I think things like you said, circle so lay. I've seen a number of those over the years. I think that's kind of the newer or maybe another way is, is the modern circus looking yet human human feats human feats of acrobatics and you know, and it's all by choice and with skill and with training. And yeah, right. I mean, how many people go to a circus oh, lay show who can't touch their toes. And these people are bending backwards touching their heels. I mean, it's like it's incredible. And we look at it in awe. So any final thoughts for the greatest show men or greatest showman now, I think that's, I think about it. I think I gotta to have really much else to say about it and then I know last week you started your new segment of some news and updates and things any of that stuff going on. So, yeah. So the segment that we worked workshop being the name a little bit on the segment in we're gonna call it updates in hot, takes updates in hot takes. So here's my hot take for this week. I just saw for the first time today. The trailer for Chappaquiddick japa- quick. Oh, wait. You're talking about the one from Ted Kennedy. My name is Ted and my full name is Edward and for my whole life because people don't know that Ted issued for Edward. I, I don't think I learned that until I met you. I was tell people like Edward Kennedy his his nickname is Ted Kennedy race I will. That doesn't make sense. Edward, the nickname Edward is Ed or Eddie. You would think Theodore would be Ted or or Theodore's in his true that Theodore is a nigga. Ted is nicknamed for Theodore as her. That's also on the table also confusing, but my my rebuttal to them saying that doesn't make sense, is Jack, is the nickname for John which is another Kennedy reference, right radio. If you're gonna say Jack, as nickname for John, all bets are off. We can say, Peggy is short for Margaret, which it is, and we can say anything else we wanna say about nickname. So I'm Ted, but my name is Edward. So anyway, Chappaquiddick I love the story. I guess that's weird to say, big fan of story. My wife and I liked going to the vineyard and we drove over the bridge in relaxed bridge and we're whispering to each other. So the history of that space in the tension between, you know, something that I guess he had tried to make up for the whole rest of his life. This mistake that he'd made in, he kind of got away with. So this is like the untold true story. You know, there's a lot of two stories out there. Filmmaking trailers. They love harping on it right now. There's especially, yeah, but the way that they kind of package this as the untold true story, it was neat to me that they did that in a love, Jason Clark. I don't know if you're familiar with Jason Clark. Not fully he Chicago code. Did you said short-lived TV show? No, not having seen night. That when you should check out Chicago code being from Chicago, he's always zero zero, dark thirty. I think he plays rob hall in Everest and his Donna, the planet of the apes am. I think he plays John Connor is all three of those John. Connor in Terminator Genesis, I guess I'm a big fan of Terminator Genesis and most when I still like it, I am a big fan, big fan of Jason Clark. So I'll watch anything yet. He's in. He's in this. He's Ted Kennedy, hinted Helms kind of go back and forth. The trailer is is spot on it. You know, it has. It has some great stuff to it. Maybe we'll get to it later in another pod, but I thought it was exciting. I saw today, so I'd hit you up with a hot take on it. Sounds good. I'm looking for them enough to check out the trailer. See how outlooks might be wanna go, see, yeah, Ted good time tonight and mortal engines will see how that is the greatest showman. Yeah. I mean, if it's anything like the live, ca. Commercial. I mean, I'm sure it's going to be a fun movie. I want to thank everybody for listening and you can find everything. We have at trailer junkies podcast dot com links to everything social media, all the places where we host our podcast and Twitter at t- junkies podcast, and you can subscribe and share from wherever you listen, your podcast. I tunes podcast Google play or Stitcher. All right. Well, I guess that is it for this week look forward to talking again next week and we'll have some more trailers of the reviews, maybe some news and hot tips as you call them. Yeah, I had a good time. How about you? I'm branding it a little bit more. We're going with hashtag TJP hot takes. All right to talk to you next week. Thanks, bye. Bye. Next week join Jim and Ted, as they disarm another Hollywood bomb or marketing masterpiece. Remember the holy trinity of podcasting, subscribe, Reich, shape. 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12.27.19 Americans are moving less; Healthcare costs are a major American concern

Clark Howard Show

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12.27.19 Americans are moving less; Healthcare costs are a major American concern

"Great to have you here on the Clark Howard Show where it's all about you. You Win that Walla Yours. I want you to learn ideas me so you can keep more of what you make coming up later. Something that is no deal at all when it costs for healthcare in the United States. How people are really getting fired up about it in many parts of the country? I want to tell you what a big concern earn. High cost healthcare has become so speaking of the US there's new data out out from the Census Bureau that finds that we are stuck in concrete. Well not literally but we as Americans are moving at a much lower rate much much lower rate than historical so in in a typical year. Roughly one in five Americans move. That was until very very recently elaine. That'd been pretty much what it had been for generations today. One in ten Americans movie cheer. The implications are many in this situation. I mean it's not good for people who work in the real real estate industry agents people who work in real estate closings and all of that that there's just not a steady stream of buyers and sellers that we've had historically because people are staying put. One of the primary reasons is that two income households. There's not the disparity is a used to be between the two incomes and a household and so it becomes uh-huh a real hard decision to move for a better job opportunity for one because it may be a big cost or consequence quincy for the other who may not be able to duplicate a career level job a pay level. They have right now so with people moving less frequently. There's an angle that's never really talked about and that is you. You know that may actually make you more money over time. No why well. There's an enormous cost every time you buy a house. There's an enormous cost every time you sell a house so even if you've had a nice gain on your home a lot of it gets eaten up and the cost of relocation and I'm not talking about the moving truck or whatever to move your stuff from one place to another the commission's selling expenses buying expenses. They add up you figure ten percent and ten percent out and so someone who stays put for an extremely long time in a home will actually find that that home will likely lead to more net worth gain for them then if they move every so often now there are exceptions. And there's one in particular that's important if you live in a neighborhood that seems to be Deteriorating then you're going to find that it's worth it not moving job or anything else to go go ahead and sell that home and move on because when neighborhoods starts to deteriorate it can be decades before the neighborhood may recover and in the meantime you may feel less safe. The neighborhood may become less stable and the home value. You're counting on May vanish right before your Eyes Ryan is with us on the car. Coward Show Hi Ryan. Hey Tower you you great. Thank you and I wanNA thank your son for his service to our country. Yes thank you appreciate that. Yeah we're really proud of him. What's he up to do? Well he's about I think he's entering his fourth the week of a basic training. So he's he's right in the middle of it all right now. Oh how Z.. Surviving that so far. He's doing okay. We get we get a phone call every couple of weeks and he's he's making it okay. It's tougher on his mom. I think that it is on him. Well how can I be of service because I can't help them through basic yeah Well he wrote us a letter and he asked us about the Retirement plans that he's getting ready to sign up for eight mentioned the thrift savings savings plan. which is the traditional one by? He definitely wants to let me interrupt you right there. He wants to get right in from the get. Go and the thrift savings exp plan. The he mentioned that there was a second plan that you listed Africa. Twenty twenty eighteen after January which he listed before that That everybody's being put into the blended savings plan which is a a little bit different. Now I I wasn't familiar with that in a different kind of looked it up online a little bit but I'm not sure which one he he's GonNa have have an option to do either one so so the blended plan he can opt into that through his pay and and there is a very good guide online to the blended retirement system and how the thing works so so the idea is that the military specifically is trying to de emphasize the traditional pension plan. And so they're trying to get people. It's almost like employers who get rid of a pension plan in instead have you go into a 401k. 401k where the company offers some level match right. So I think the question really is how long he thinks he's really going to want to stay in the service right and and that I mean he's not going to be. I don't know what his plan is going to be. You know we're just GONNA have to take it a little bit at a time right now but I think he would make career out of it the twenty years if he really enjoyed enjoyed what he was doing but You know I mean he's just getting started not not a hundred percent sure right now. Okay so that is the hard choice. He's he's he's gotTa Make It. How old is he? He's nineteen at nineteen just in basic is so hard you know very very few people make it to twenty right. It's a very small percent. So my feeling is that going into the T. S. P. for a teenager with no sense of how long they'd serve would make the most sense. Okay okay okay. And that's just a guess. And as I said there's a very lengthy well written booklet that is available online online explaining the options and how to pick and there is no right answer. Unless let's say your son was from a family where generations were twenty plus years in the military. and that's just what everybody in the family does. Then I'd say that would be an exception option otherwise I think. TSP Okay all right. I appreciate the help the other thing once he finishes basic which branches Zeon? Maybe all right I would like to join navy. Federal Credit Union. It'd be okay and he should consider or if he has a car joining. USAA he already has done that right. He's doing all those great things. Well Good Reid. He's got. He's got a good dad. WHO's very involved in this? I'm making sure he. He's in in everything at taking advantage of everything he can. That's perfect because one-season he's in for a life in those wonderful organizations counties with us on the Clark Howard show. Hello Connie Hi Clark how are you you great. Thank you talk about a European River cruise. And I hope you can help me. I'll do the best decade. Hey several friends and I have been talking about taking being European river boat cruise and I wondered if there was one way better than the other two book to save some money so the river cruise market is really strong right now and do you have a particular European airy that you WanNa do or flexible on atwell flexible. We've been talking about a couple of different ones but nothing's written down in stone. The more flexible you are about the dates you can go. Oh and twenty twenty the cruise lines the river lions. You're willing to go on and the you're willing to do the more money you'll save. That's actually more important than where you book the cruise where the US one of the high volume crews only agencies whether you use Costco travel wherever you choose to book is secondary to you being able to be flexible enough that you can grab a deal. Okay I think we can be flexible. Alright so unlike for you to spend as much time as you can tell your bleary eyed on cruise critic dot com. Okay and you'll be able to read about the various river cruises and see which ones there's two Criteria hearing positive or negative. which ones you're going to feel like fit your group and would be ones that you put on your list to watch prices for and which ones you're definitely not going to want to go on about by reading the reviews at cruise critic and then you can follow prices if you come up with a matrix of wet dates you and your friends can all go and you just keep watching for deals? He also available because crews rates are so dramatically different week to week because of the cruise lines are able to look and see what kind of Occupancy looks like they're trending towards and when they see booking soft on a particular week. They'll Alvin put that week on sale with special promotions. If they see a week is really booking strongly or they know historically that are particular week books strongly. Then they're not gonNA offer deals so this cruise critic to help me track. That cruise critic is really. Although they have some pricing information there cruise critic I like more for the actual picking out like a surgeon with a scalpel all which ships. You'RE GONNA WANNA go on by reading the reviews people post there. Because you know there's a lot a lot of competition now in the river cruising market. It's like the hottest part of the cruise industry right now in terms of growth. So for sure win. Should we have it booked a yes. We're a little ahead of the game but no a Lotta people plan way ahead of time book really early and if that's what's comfortable for you then When you see something that's like a really not just promoting that it's a good deal but you can tell because you've been looking at prices you can tell this particular week on? This ship is a real bargain. Then you just buy it right then. Okay and one thing if you're going to book far ahead and by the way my producer Joel just flip something around from me from cruise critic. They have have a briefing on how River cruise prices work. Oh and so. That should be really helpful is an older article but the information in it should still be really useful to you. All right One thing booking either traditional cruise or a river cruise you gotta have trip insurance. We've talked about that already. And everybody agrees okay or you can use a credit card that comes with a free trip cancellation trip interruption. Coverage if you just for using that credit card to book your cruise okay never heard of that. Yeah it's so it's not a common benefit do usually you're gonNA have a trip insurance charge of about six percent of the cost of the trip. I hope that you have a great great time together. They breakfast is the most important meal of the day at AC hotels we agree. That's why European inspired breakfast features pursued a slice razor thin and fresh croissants sants imported from France all served in. AC kitchen talk about a wakeup call. AC hotels the perfectly precise hotel maidens with us on the Clark Howard show. Hi Nathan Jason Clark. I just have a A question regarding my son who flies quite a bit and I know you do and several weeks ago you mentioned about congestion and things you used to get and he gets it now and I just wondered if you had mentioned something when I heard you and and I don't remember what it was I thought it was a spray or something and it's just driving me nuts that I can't remember what I do is go to the dollar store. You're although you can pay much more if you wish a chain pharmacy and I get a saline spray. Saline sprays has been very helpful all to me with the amount of air travel I do and the saline spray is just something it just keeps the nasal passages moist because is when you fly. The plane air dries you out leads to more likelihood of infections and stuff and so using the the saline spray has been very very helpful to me other people use them and they say he didn't do anything for me but it has been very useful for me and and you use it for a good while. Didn't you still use it when I travel. Okay well I knew it was something like that because you and my son have two things in common. I'm an in addition to the flying. He also has a Tesla and I thought that either one of the other was causing that congestion. So it's definitely not the Tesla Tesla but he really loves it. Oh Gosh he's he's crazy about you. Drive it zero to sixty yellow. He doesn't even let his wipe drive. It what okay. So I'm I'm crazy about it to the point. That stranger will come up and start asking. I'll say oh. Get the driver seat. Let me explain to you how it works when time. I'm going to do that and it's going to be the last time I see my tesla right right well. Let's just like being on a spaceship to me when I'm in there it's really something but but I appreciate it. I'm going to pass this onto him and everything all right best to him and I hope that it helps with Nasal infections and stuff that he gets from so my chair travel. You know they're not called the germ to for nothing. Flying Lying is Is really something that is disruptive to your body and when you do at a lot like I fly more than on average over a year more than one flight a week week and the effects. Well you know you should never cry over. You know somebody gets to travel and see the country and see the world so that sounded really really whiny from me but there are the health issues that do come up from it. Great to have you here on the Clark Howard show is about your empowerment with knowledge. So you can save more or and spend less and don't let anyone ever rip you off so people in America are are starting to grab onto something that they really didn't understand before and there's a poll that was done by The Financial Times of London. Why are they polling this about us in the ice as Byu's about Americans attitudes about healthcare fire and the cost healthcare and so Americans used to think that the cost of healthcare was their premium report of premium if they work for an employer parts paid by the employer mostly by the employer and the rest by you and then your co pays days or deductibles will now those deductibles and copays have gotten to be huge and so even if you Have Health Coverage. You're much more exposed to how unbelievably expensive healthcare is in the United States. In in fact in the survey done by the Financial Times they found that healthcare costs are by many Americans. Akin's believe the number one economic threat to our nation and they're not wrong. Healthcare being twenty percent of our nation's economy is insanely ridiculous. We've had all these debates going back more within a decade about how we're going to ensure people in the US in Obamacare not doing obamacare compliant plans noncompliant plans but what's finally become cleared more and more Americans is is the overall cost of our health care system in the United Estate. That's the real issue. I mean there are a huge swath of the country where over forty percent of Americans now now say that healthcare costs or the greatest threat to American economic prosperity and hit you with some of the States Florida. You might expect because of an aging population Pennsylvania Ohio Indiana Illinois Wisconsin Constan Minnesota Iowa and Missouri. Oh also Kansas Nebraska. BRASSICA South Dakota North Dakota and all those states people rank healthcare is pretty much the biggest threat to our economy and we have got to address all the problems with with how healthcare is delivered in the United States because we cannot afford as a nation to prosper prosper. We cannot prosper in competition with the rest of the world with one out of every five dollars of of our economic output being swiped by healthcare. I mean when you figure in most other developed countries is one out of ten dollars one out of twelve dollars. That gap is devastating to us from time to time. I tell you ideas of what I would do about about that. The reality is we got to address it and a lot of people are going to be unhappy about it like the thing I talked to you about recently how the hospitals hospitals are all freaking out because the trump administration wants to force them to tell you before. You're treated what it actually costs you due for having treatment so you can choose whether or not you want to be treated at that place. Seems Pretty simple to me. You and I should have the right to know what something's GonNa cost before we end up buying it. Bert is with us on the Clark. Howard show Hello Bert? Hello Bert you you are thinking of doing a favor to a friend apparently Yes sir what are you thinking of doing well I have a friend friend who needs a vehicle for short period of time so I was going to loan her one of my car that I don't don't use. We have three cars. My wife and I use two of them regularly regularly and one of them's kind of off and on so I was thinking of letting her borrow third car. But I was looking to see if there's a way to protect myself insurance twice so that I wouldn't bear the brunt of any accident. Yeah you face you face a lot of liability risk when you allow your friend and Operate the vehicle. How much would you guess? Vehicles worth probably five or six thousand at this point so an alternative is you. You could sell the car temporarily to the friend. You know that you would hold the loan paper and you defer that any payments have to be made for You said you're going to lend it for six months. Ya maybe a month or two. Oh yeah just kind of a short term. I mean the only way to really completely protect yourself is having a change in ownership. And then when she's done with it that it's registered back in your name that is that is the best way to protect yourself. If that's more work than you WANNA do. Do you have an insurance agent or do you use an eight hundred hundred number company. I usually do online. So I don't work directly with an agent so most of my quoting I had been just looking online so the ensure you're with you don't do through an agent. It's it's with the company itself correct. Yes I would call the company and ask say you you know you exactly what you told me I mean just lay it out to them and say you wanted to know. Is there a way to ensure wending a car for two months to a friend and if they say not on your life then you've got to go through the more complicated thing thing where you do sell the car. And then she sells it back to you when she's done with it. So is something like that if I did where I would sell her. The car and put air quotes in here but if I sold her the car in which we did entitled transfer would it be worth it to get I guess it's always worth worth it to get it in writing that okay. This car is really coming back to me at the at the end of all the well what you do what you have to do instead is you have a note that she doesn't have to a pay on for the period of time you're agreeing she would be driving the vehicle then payments would have to start at that point and you make the payments retroactive to the first day with interest. Oh I see okay. That doesn't mean the person will honor that in pay. Hey or would return. The car is agreed to win possession of your vehicle. You GotTa hope that there are one hundred percent honorable. Yeah but I. I know there's probably some expense involved transferring title. She would have to buy insurance rents on it for the period of time she'd be operating it so it's not like she's GonNa have completely free transportation but if you are doing something out of the kindness of of your heart and at the same time you don't want to end up with the big opening for liability if your insurer says we don't want anything to do with that you're on your own. That's when you know you've got to do it the traditional way of signing it over to her. Okay okay. Does that help. Yeah yeah that's that's good. Thank you because I had an alternative is going to be much shorter. Anyone to help somebody buddy out. It was just for a few weeks. You could front her the money to rent a car for a few weeks okay. And then that way the rentals donelson her name everything about it isn't her name but if it's GonNa be on sounds like a few months than it does become something where you really have to think about your liability as you're thinking through to your credit ahead of time instead of after the fact Ken is with us on the Clark. Howard show Ken? Hello Clark can you got a story you want to share with people and you want to share it as often as does he want and hope that people will listen. Is that right something like that right. A lot of people are doing podcasts and seemed to be earning enough to get a full time job. So I'm looking at starting one and I I know the production side of it. But I'm wondering if you have some tips on how to make it financially viable so who usually if you're going to make it financially viable you have to do more than just the podcast. You have to be extremely family active on social media. You have to have a written word candy website as well. Where things you talk about in your podcast or available? Are you doing an instructional podcast. Inspirational what kind of topic area is generally my my day job. visit the journalist for a business news weekly so I'll probably leverage that to do life skills motivational things. You know how to network for a job. Time management dealing with people at work work life balance those sorts of think about how perfect the podcast is with the written word. The you would have at your companion Nyan website right because you know you and a podcast can say now if you want to see my step by step on how to motivate other people people in the workplace or whatever. Go to my website right now and I'm gonNA walk you through it but you have a base from what you you already do as a journalist but getting to the point where a podcast. It's profitable requires a sustained and growing audience audience. There's a website I've talked about in the past eofire.com. Is that something you've heard before no uh-huh so he eeo fire dot com is all about how to make a podcast profitable. Some of the stuff is about how to do do the nuts and bolts. You already know there's special emphasis there on how you actually can earn a living from podcast or at least generate net income from podcast. I'll check it out. And how active are you on social media. Oh you know just from my own personal things. I'm not doing anything for business necessarily so with this. I mean you would really need to think of you know using social media yourself as a personal thing. You know how how people interact with it so you have to start thinking of it from the standpoint of your podcast and how you generate traffic. Because in order to get advertisers today you need a minimum sustained audience of twenty five hundred hundred people and say for a while you'll be podcasting to a smaller audience and building up loyal followers followers. And you do that with consistency. How often you put out the podcast and then building the traffic with time and you know I've had many years as a podcast? Her and I will tell you it requires patience and stick to it of nist to make it go if I may ask it. Is The podcast part of your revenue stream or is it just kind of a a bonus thing definite part of revenue stream. Okay Okay but you know we have we we have been at it. I I think it's fourteen years and so there were many years that it was really just for lack of a better term a brand extension and then it became a profitable thing and then it became a significant producer of revenue. But it does take time but you know it. Content you know is a journalist contents everything and so if you generate content that people love. That's really how you make it happen. Particularly if you already know the basics about how you execute a podcast content that people find compelling and particularly unique you you know that's the advantage I've had we pied casting is not necessarily compelling certainly unique content. Do you have any comments on the length. Well I do a longer podcast. The most I would say somewhere around fifteen minutes is a timeline that I really like Mike but there are a lot of different opinions about length. podcast the b the other advantage though. Let's say you're focusing on a particular topic topic podcast and you need more time for that one. Give it more time. You have that flexibility and if you got something that is a topic topic very meaningful. Don't use having a certain set number of minutes as an arbitrary thing where you're just talking in circles to get to where you've talked those number of minutes I see. Okay thank you and best of luck with it. It's such a great thing because people get to listen and on their schedule not necessarily yours and I think that's what's so great. Brook is with us on the Clark. Howard show Hollow Brook? Hi clerking for taking the time to speak today. Of course how can I serve you Brooke. Yeah so I was wondering I am with a larger bank at right now and I'm looking at switch to a smaller credit union and I live in the Atlanta area but also be able to have the ability to go to location in case I need to do something anything in person and I need to look for checking and savings accounts and possibly with the option of getting a credit cards do them but has a good cash rewards program. What would you recommend? So what's changed with the Credit Union market is there are now credit unions and most any of the mid size and large metro areas of the country that have gotten to enough size in a metro. Area that they have enough ranches many times as many as a dozen even an offer everything you asked for where they offer checking savings credit cards a full array of things. Things just better deals than you'd get from a bank you mentioned you live in Atlanta Atlanta's an example of a metro area. That has at least a half dozen credit unions that have real size to them with a large network branches in your Metro area and in Butte have no trouble being able to find one. That would do everything. That was on your checklist and you see them every day. When you drive around on you may not notice them? But they're there but I've got an easy way for you to find them and and see who's available to you ready. There's a website it called. See you in a C. U. N. Dot Org. And if you go there there's a fine credit union button and you're able to put in and your Zip Code and you can see the credit unions availability you and be able to look at who the big ones are. And then it's so oh simple because just go to their websites and I would start with the credit card offers. They have and see which one has the best cashback card. Maybe that would work for you because credit unions overwhelmingly offer free checking credit unions without exception offer better rates on savings and banks do so you mentioned the convenience that's the only real qualifier you'd be looking through and looking for four and I would say in Metro area as large as Atlanta a dozen branches or more we can be the cutoff point grey. That helps yes. It helps a lot. Thank you so much or it will best to you. And I'm so glad that you're seeking out the best kind of bank. There is a credit credit union. You're listening to the Clark Howard show. Thanks for joining us today. The Clark Howard our show is produced by Kim. Droves Joe Wars Guard Debra Reese and Jim Ayers and remember twenty four hours a day where there to serve you at Clark Dot Com and card deals dot com.

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Avatar: The Last Airbender Creators Leaving Netflix Show - The Nerd Soup Podcast!

The Nerd Soup Podcast

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Avatar: The Last Airbender Creators Leaving Netflix Show - The Nerd Soup Podcast!

"Yeah. Yeah. How's it going going? Good check check check. You can be movie. Rowbotham bar with you know Barbara Bar thrown it'd be. Nice. Dj from. Kicking. The door. I need your takes on something here. This is. House way in Florida or not. Well teddy used to like in the beginning. He would just come in and give like his story right away before we started recording you would waste. Cold opens were left. Because he just wasted him, you wasted many cold openings will know more this time. Yeah. Like how you waited now he didn't say a word or you sat down one on your phone. And now the Mike started and you're ready to go. We did actually have a phony back and forth that could have been a cold opening about my computer. Lost I was I was really good to you. Yeah. I'll give you props for that. Suck the rest of the PUCK. Arizona shut down there. I was just thinking. He's going to be thinking about that. How can I top that? All. Right. So here's a scenario. Well. It's actually my scenario scenario Let's say I buy a plaque formula. For when we die? Oh no no like Well, I'm going to restart it. I wouldn't say plot. Hong. Hello everybody about plotter a plaque plot plot. Restarted. Just keep believing this. That's why. I'm. GonNa. I'm GONNA keep you. Competitive. Restart because this is all saying end. Faster you restart compose compose. Alright. So let's say I buy a plot from meet Elena when we die. No plot. Okay. Meet Atlanta get buried in the plot, right? Yeah. Mealy have thirty years a happy marriage I dive like a heart attack I get buried in the. Yeah I. Get buried in the plot now, Olena remarries for another thirty years. She obligated to get buried in my plot that I paid for. Or? Jared. Some Joe Schmoe. I wasted money on that plot who's using that plot that I paid for. I don't know. You'll be dead so she obligated to. Die. When do I after our thirty years a happy marriage and then she goes for another thirty years she meets somebody else would you be okay I would not be okay. I'd want her buried here I paid for what if she added Ha she's just in the middle of you to for eternity I wouldn't like that. then. She's got. That's the thing you have to make those thirty years count bad thirty years. She's spend an eternity with the new guy well. And then did heroes. Zero chance she has a better back end Kinda schmuck buried next year for the recipe of I dunno some people have a great back-nine. She's not having a good back on. Yes. She made fun of Gray Fox you know the guy he retired when he was thirty was a photographer. Now he's a photographer to his hobby, but he's rich kids winding his wife died. And Right? Yeah. They bond over the yeah. Here's the hardest hit they train isn't pickle here in this in this that's the thing you have to make these thirty years ago thirty years. But. The questions? Her she to get buried in my block. This new guy, let's call him no anthony. Let's let's look. Let's give him a last name Nash Okay. So What's the answer? I don't know it's a tough one. I think she's obligated I like to imagine divorced we got divorced and you know. That's not that's a definite now, even if you paid for it, why don't you got? Why are you buying a plot so early? I feel like once you hit thirty years, you buy plot. Bad Luck. All right. So look we're having we have thirty years of marriage, ten years and I by the plot. So I have the plot. You know I'm not buying the right now you know the chances are maybe like some just single batty gets buried next to you right Elena left it's like a the airplane seat. This scenario to the heavens. Well I don't know you're going to turn. Out. To. BE GROWN UP. Hillary Body. So. To podcasts. I'm bill Oliver here join today by Aaron McKie and Teddy, and we are to talk about the world of movies, TV and Video Games, and you can listen to this podcast that our bus sprout link on itunes spotify Google podcast, and send us your questions that not for you at Jima Dot Com follow us on twitter as well at nerd soup near to monkey teddy nerd soup poop purple girl as Anthony Jackie national better headed out of that faulk in total mental breakdowns. Just all the little bows. All took off work talk. Do I have anything to say no, we have a lot of good topics to talk about we'll get to the online but yeah, follow us on twitter instagram facebook. We will have the same -at's sure. So. That's cool. So where we starting I, don't know actually have to go to the online right the old First one was Thought I had it on top of my head I forgot we reach into that I? Know. This there's some good topics I've actually you know. What can you tweet fan questions? Oh avatar the. Last. Yes. The story opening store on the online. Yes it is huge. I like the trailer. The Devil may cry I. Think trails go last year the AMC. News Patrick Star, spin off I think here. That's not. Okay thousand Windows Open. You Band your nine hit a leadoff here. The Avatar News, are you kidding me avatars a four? Yeah. That's the one. That's GONNA join. Yeah. avatars maybe in the three hole what To be in the didn't I didn't look deeper into this topic. What Avatar we talking about We're talking about the. Animated. The live series on Netflix. So James Gammon. They're making a live action adaptation, of Avatar, the animated series and the original creators, Michael Dante Martino and Brian I cannot pronounce the last name. They've exited the shell because of creative differences and they gave their reasons on their social media accounts and very detailed and thorough great nations. Great great letters. Yeah. Those letters that might get those like take some sentences out of that. You're. GonNa plagiarize their explanation for leaving the. Okay. So just to be clear now, James Cameron isn't leaving the sequels of Avatar, know how are you kidding me? So many that hands out of the private franchise from him. I have nothing. I. Didn't read them. I listened to him. So I'M NOT GONNA. Say I read them can I say what I would have said if it was James Cameron leaving. Yes sure this hypothetical. So they'll even the Avatar even something you can't talk about you've. Got Nothing Yeah I kind of just leaving the Avatar sigourney weaver did you read them? Yes yeah. No I did and I felt like it was they were contradicting because Michael. His name Michael Dante di. Martino Michael. Dante was saying that they weren't giving the creative power that they were told they were going to have and then and Brian said that. Just brought. It was was but it wasn't because he said that they were not opposed to taking other other ideas but Michael said that they had no. They had no power. What's the spin on the spinoff? No, it's just a relaxing. Yeah. Oh, sequel just reading. No, it's a remake. It's a live action remake so it will follow the story of the original animated series I one so well. Yeah, that's the thing. The first one directed by Shamlan I'm pretty sure the creators they weren't in that one as well in the very beginning and then they left. Yeah. Same thing they created differences they left and then. That moves. That movies aren't even a bad movie I. Am Shamlan such a talented filmmaker. I don't know how he got that low. That's just stayed there for a little. All unwatchable but that's the worst I mean after earth is ridiculous but. The fighting an Avatar. The slow motion fighting is the first movie I showed off and just like I'm not doing this. Nation can't finish it before this everyone was excited because Netflix's has had a better track record as of late of creating new shows and seemingly giving creators the creative freedom especially. Legendary directors like Scorsese. Well, let's see best I think way to go rather than like we saw the movie, but just if you're going to adapt the series making an actual series, so you have time to delve into different characters. Different storylines. Is there like any outrage about this? Oh Yeah. Well. No. Just about the idea of a live action remake. No, it seems like every time Disney announces one. It's too fucking worst thing in the world and we must you know criticized Disney and it's fucking talk shit on twitter. But everyone will be like words because it's been two years in the making and the creators were on board with it and now. And now the not on anymore they just left. But Brian I guess I'm just GonNa Brian. tweet questions he was saying that he's happy with who they hired during the two years of production. So he thinks that they can make a good series. It's just they don't want to be part of because they're not getting what they want creatively. Yeah. That's that's the thing if you bring these guys in what can Netflix's possibly on their and want to do that these guys disagree with you always, it makes me think that they want to do something dramatic where they're trying to capitalize on a certain trend and tell the story in a new way that relates to people now but the creators are saying, Hey, it worked the first time. Let's just do it that way you would have to think it has to be a major difference for them to exit. Netflix's might have some details like, oh, give up funny. Mustache. We'll give up a mustache. Can we do everything else are way? Yes. Pat On the head I don't know what the hell they wanted. Once you give them a mustache arrived they know they. Cost you around its top. Both time? Would you rather as a fan and I guess it's the same kind of I guess debate when it comes like comic book movies and Shit like that it's like, would you rather something that's to a t.? More or less what the animated show is or would you like some cool differences on? Things that deviates a little bit from the plot with with still keeping the same essence of the show. Will Avatar the world of Avatar. The map is very clean. The four nations the the overall story is so simple and it doesn't get. It's obviously fantastical. You have all these elements benders but it's not so bizarre that a live action adaptation work a lot of the characters or humans humans with abilities you have the Momoa, Inaba, the magical creatures costumes really. Right and that's the thing obvious. You just have to kind of feel it out you want to. Honor the story that they told because the the broad strokes of the original animated series or what makes it so great those character arcs throughout those three seasons and that's the thing. It's a very three seasons, twenty episodes each they know the story they wanted to tell going in. It seems like such an easy and that's the thing they've built up such goodwill over these last couple of months with the resurgence of the shell dropping on Netflix. Yeah. It's found a new popularity. It's been popular for years. It's already considered a classic. I don't know how do you not give these guys the benefit of the doubt well, maybe they I mean people don't love. That's the thing that's the second show that they were involved in heavily Cora they say that some of the seasons of. The standards of the original Avatar. So People lose it sometimes creators lose it. NETFLIX's may have been hey these ain't the same guys that. Ten years is a long time or having a little and it's been. Always went something's being made for a a a live action remake. It's like ours GonNa see the same film shopper shot but then if you change too much, it's like you ruin this. So like it's such a such a fine line even if like star wars comic book movies, it's like a lot of fans want fan service, right but then you could sell for creators like well, I don't want. You know what? My on a patient for yeah. It's not like I'm not going to give you what you expect. Beta. Because and what's really the fun of that. It's like you would like. Maybe try to do something a little different. You do that though when you're someone new onto a show, not the creators of the show feel like regardless when you're doing this, you're always an isolate. Some groups of people so I feel like you just got it's just so puzzling. Avance it's just so puzzling that because they hire the creators of the show. And Netflix do have liked to show and think it's appealing enough to. To viewers to remake the show, right? I. Mean They just. As. They saw. was well, not Netherton and drop the mate left. But basically they were fired. They were they were probably saying we we can't do the show unless you let us do it this way and Netflix's said no so it's like okay, we were leaving. And I I I. Mean I love to fly on the wall because and I feel like I. Can't be money tend to side with the creators because maybe they come back remember when David Lynch left twin peaks, select showtimes on letting me do this the right way, and then he just came back like a week later. Cars on fire him so Let's. In the nineties. Yeah. Well, he'd left permanently that time when he did come back opening fire walk with me is so in bashing into television. He's very slowly. So maybe they'll come in two weeks. Oh Hey, we kiss a made up but I would love to like I said, I, side with Creator because more often than not it's studio interference that is fucking up these movies. And it's people that are making these adaptations and they don't actually have a genuine love for whether at adapting these guys obviously do so I. Who knows it? It's it's unfortunate. It's obscuring. It's bad news for the series because they're still moving forward was excited in the warriors. This damper some of my excitement I really does well damper. On Damper your excitement our next story, which is. You know. The fifteen cent tickets remain. The lines. Okay. Three, three topic outline. Tom Holland trailer the devil all the time. Yeah. Yeah. We just got that trailer in our brains. So we'll talk about it very trailer and a lot of people are excited about this because Tom Holland is one of the teen heartthrobs not. Teens. I will talk in his twenties yeah. Young I feel like he Tom Holland Lucas. Hedges Shamil Show Charlemagne the big. Don't give you. Shall I couldn't I couldn't say, Brian. Right, but I'm very excited for this trailer and obviously it has a whole slew of actor Sebastian, Stan Robert. Pattinson Bill SKARSGARD ELISA scanlon. One of my favorites from sharp objects was round pants and want like seven in a row. That Boyd, he's got a hell of an agent. Movable object. Unstoppable Force. So. No I mean. A wormhole open. Go ahead no, it was definitely solid trailer Lovely. Intriguing. I think I mean for net flicks talk enough again, just a another yet. I mean, it's Netflix. Yeah. They need has everything. Yeah. It's like apple or not Lamborghini Lamborghini had. No No. Yeah. No, you don't. Even though there are plenty of leads anyway but it's a fucking stack cast I wonder what the budget for this movie was and I think it's coming out in September so I think that's pretty great for movie fans especially with you know we don't know when we're ever GonNa get a new movie in the theater again to have something like this that you don't have to pay rents four on video on demand and just coming to Netflix for Free Yeah I love a kind of dubious priest character. Yeah. I always like that because they're being very hypocritical obviously preaching the word of God and then Doing some other stuff that's. Not Very Jesus Jesus like who does that Jim Jones I guess? The cult's leader or the river now, the cult leader. Jason, Clark played a villain I never happens. These guys I'll tell you what Jason Clark I wanted to say this about What's his fucking name our Pattinson the the dad in Godzilla Manchester by the sea. Kyle Call Rudolph since I called Rudolph at tight. End. Now, talk about this movie and we'll look them up for my point about Jason Clark. Tom. Hauling though as a young enter somebody said this on twitter, all could this be his Oscar role and then someone's like why does anytime a marvel actor does something Like Oscar but I think he's that talented I mean the things that I've seen him into. I mean he's greatest Spiderman as well. You one of those dramatic two and a vendors and game. Mrs Stark, I don't feel so. Yeah I mean wasn't well I thought that was a good our national love that I felt that was really good tickets the because he never knows what's going on Thomas Grip it's immoral guy doing a serious movie, but it's fan it's also the British guy. Doing southern accent. That's that's Oscar. Is Easy for them. They're a lot of parallels between the southern and the UK access of New York and you care closes. Skip a lot of letters. Year. But the it's the drawing. The CY I mean when you played Red Dead at times, the Guy Played Arthur Miller has he's Irish. So his Irish accent kind of creep in but it it it was so similar I thought we sound like idiots other people from New York. Like have you talked to anyone else other than like not from New York Song Idiots. Why? Because we got Delis Dinas? As we got a, We got our soda walking up this. I think we sound hot. Think we sound like? I'll tell him L.. Hakko don't Aaron during the trailer the Thanh looks like a like nineteen seventy, four boy like great casting. Yes. It wasn't Skarsgard is is his dad right? It looks like Scars Guard did something and then it's sent Tom Holland to a to an orphanage and he puts his faith in died Jesus maybe yeah it's. He would get sent orphanages the fans with dead. That is true right? Yeah. no. While you get taken away from your parents get something out of Norfolk but in the system and Seriously wants to be a little bit more sympathetic teddy. The system. Not Anymore we saved. That cake was garbage though by the way in the beginning. No icing while I think that was yeah that really set the tone for the movie there's going to be no icing on this cake is cake. It's good for you know why I didn't know they did that back in the day because I guess in usually have the canal's bare necessity number on it like Oh twenty two, that's your birthday. They just put a fucking. In that. Match. Blow it out. Quick. who started the candles on a birthday cake? No numbers. General. You started math. No no cake I thought. He meant like who started numbers no. was just talking wasn't wasn't GonNa be a talking point. Mark I think they they invented the number candle. Okay. Don't. Actually a quote me on that. Well I wanted to say about Jason Clark no matter what movies in the movies good or bad he's always given his best and Kyle Shanley as well. That guy is just he's when I was watching Godzilla King of the monsters terrible movie. But he was just convinced that this movie was really happening I could just see it in his face and I appreciate that I appreciate those actors that no matter how bad it is. They're going to give it their best Tom Cruise's like that will Smith I love Kyle Chandler Yeah Yeah. Right? He's looking. He's excellent. He's never anything but Kyle Chandler, but he's giving it his all. He's in blow line. I fucking love that show co Damore. That godzillas an ally. In his face, you could see like he just befriended this giant. Their friends now you've probably went home thinking God was real. I'm convinced he goes onto his children's. Do you understand wasn't this? Daniel Day. Lewis. That's Samatha shit out of him to be look Abraham Lincoln. Would you rather like what they always emails you character would you hang out with? Would you want to hang out? Oh definitely. His character from Phantom Threat Hancock said his name. Do the Dick Yeah but he was being trolled the entire time by his girlfriend and he never wanted to break up with her that's you can just poke him the entire time. That's what that movie was. It let poisoner. Exactly. Maybe he'll be out for some wacky things whom wacky experiments. Spreads are finding that movie was shocked movies when he gives that locking hilarious when she's scraping the butter on her toast and he said sounds like A. Like a group of horses just. That trail though. Annex. Standard L. Lewis in that is that why we started talking to? This is the trailer where It looks like a trailer for a movie that's going to be good. But the that's the type of trailer that can fool you. Because we've been full before by of movies that look the very dramatic and they have all these great actors and they're staring very seriously at each other but then the movie socks I think. So because route ads on a roll right now I don't think he's missing. He's very good at picking movies. That's a good point of patents in doing it. Then it's it's been good whatever he does, right? You know what? I'm not excited for. What's next. The Patrick's penalty. Patrick fresh. What's going on here to? into. it's going to be combined into. Yeah. With Patrick Star spin off and so two two things that were not excited for right and also the fresh actually I'm dossier something stupid. I think I go give your opinion I I. Think Prince is being rebooted as a drama series. AND WILL SMITH IS INVOLVED We start with that. I know he was involved. Are you saying this getting them money without a yeah. You'RE GONNA get that fresh prince without him. That's a bitch. Always man does not look good. I do not like how it looks the fresh prince. There's actually like I mean obviously about that show the other day it's a perfect Sitcom. I know it truly is it's very funny and still holds up. I don't think it's like a terrible concepts because the story itself of I guess the wolf character moving from West Philadelphia born and raised and the playground. Going out. Saying that you can't deal with that type of family. I think that could make for a compelling drama I think if they just went by the name of like Something something different title. fucking Dave. It's a regular series people like Oh, this is actually pretty good cutting their minds for your fresh prince but now that it's just Oh, a fresh French remake. Now. It's a drama that's how you get that money baby name recognition, but it also makes people fan the fans of the original like don't touch it fuck. Sorry We're. Alex are you GonNa? Watch it? No, that's the thing. I'll give it a shot for a moment. I, got upset. Why would they do this to? It's going to ruin the original and then I realized ten seconds later ruin you never get to watch this. Are you going out. There's so many goddamn things on my watch list that I have to get to this. I will never watch this like you said, I may check it out and then when it's awful, just turned it off and move all of my life either you're going to say one of those no, the fresh prince the first one was good. You know it's not GonNa take away from the I won't. But no absolutely is. That's the thing I think it can I. Think there is yeah. People say that movie or that show exists how it how it exists and you can't change that now sometimes in the back of your head, you start to think about the sequels and what happens to some of these characters and you're like, Oh, I, don't like that you know what they should have done. It's their issues spinoff with will with his life after after a Beller. His life now. Has a nephew in West Philadelphia. No came in You know what? If his wife if he and his wife were in so weird I would suggest a curb, your enthusiasm style show on their family. Where it's scripted and they're just playing them sells. Life as the Smith, you just called the smiths, but they're weird walks in Austin. Pounded al-Qaeda's cakes after Kerr. Bom looks the camera. but I'm not excited for this or I'm I'm more upset about the Patrick Star show because apparently Stephen Hill Lindbergh didn't want this to happen. He never wanted these characters to appear in spinoff shows i. saw something that he wasn't closed off to the idea i. think he said he had no I I saw that too. That's why I'm more willing to accept the Patrick. Star Spin off show yeah I don the Internet you never know you never know how people what did you know about now it's a patrick SARS host the like A. Sitcom show. Not, succumb. Show with his parents. Yeah and characters from Spongebob we're going to appear once in a while. I think that's hilarious. The. Creator thing aside, if like, let's just say he didn't want to stab or maybe he would have been open to it. Just the idea I think it'd be fucking Hilarious Star Eric Andre. Shell. Bajic like an opening monologue. ooh, Joely Fisher. Ally, already hate it. It was funny. One Teddy explained it to me. But now I'm already bored of IT If you think all factors like I feel like spongebob ticket, it's going to be terrible. Patrick. It's going to be funny spongebob did declared be screaming and captured Patrick from like the first three seasons I think that'd be fucking hilarious. You know was up on us. They made a comparison with Jimmy Neutron and Sheen showed that they did the off initiates. It wasn't good. I forgot how good neutron TRAUMAS I love. Jimmy Neutron I highlight. Jimmy. Neutron as well. I love the movie. Oh Yeah. Jimmy's mom to hoof. Tomorrow Carl. Scattered that Shit. The call Thursday over Jimmy's mom. And she everyone did for over she was. I forgot about Carl. who was she obsessed with the Ultra Lord? Remember he took a history test and he put every answer was ultra who does. Our country nationals goodness fell. Does He. Remember who that walk. To, do it. no, but I'm not excited about this at all nominee and spongebob like we said it's been on the decline and hasn't been good in years which one would you watch would you wash by one? I, watch US my guy both in episode I'm definitely more interested in the spongebob one he's not gonNA answer watching it. He always answers his we want an answer is not answer. Hey Nash. Our recording a podcast right now and Steady. That's bow. can you do your Mrs Foul Impersonation for us? You worked Alvin to bail pool guy. Can you just do a quick mrs? Foul from you? John. I, thank you. Thanks I. HANG UP Fee to a love she's great or was he playing four guy? Apparently? It's it's a new game. It's pretty realizing tweeden about it speed new game. Speaking of fog is halo six got pushback infinity that sucks. Wow. That's unfortunate. Yeah. License, they were dropping that playstation I mean they were dropping it with xbox around Christmas whenever xbox and new one drops. I WanNa say this on the podcast a for everyone listening so that you'll know even though there's no comment section anymore but. Europe session with destiny what You don't realize that that game was a disappointment. That, the initial release of that game disappointed fans all over the all over the world. Okay, I liked it. All right. Well, I just want the Internet to reinforce that for you. For was we used to go back and forth teddy swore that doesn't even considered the greatest game of all I never said that. Yes. Okay. Well. We'll. Great. Game. Instead, it was the best game guys the way all of you blew that game was house learned it. Yeah. Okay. Well, at least you admit. What were we talking about Halo even bring that up no the you have anything else to say about these shows, the shows now over them. Let's move onto AMC theaters. Did you guys hear this news about AMC theaters is going to reopen on August us? This is just a marketing ploy that fifteen cents I guess like. Now, not buying it. To get to cartoons in between each movie and you could smoke in the theater healthcare. Polio. FAMILY THEY'RE DOING A. Tickets it's it's nineteen twenties. Theme is just for one day just to celebrate the reopening of theaters they're going to. Back to the depression era. Also sucked. All right. Easy ticket smokes, and let's get coronal over the theaters and pack them out and he's fan flip how to spot a communist and. Saw Tweeden, he made a good point. It's like you could just buy out the whole theater for like fifteen bucks. With your feet up. Power to Popcorns slushy Soda Hat. Yeah I don't do that. Though because isn't that going to affect Profit from the movie it's one movies. Are they going to releasing the disc release? Jaws, to. Debbie pretty cool. Actually I wouldn't I'd like that they re released like a big time movie. It's not going to be open by us. This is for like. Nevada so To. Phil what's close of YOU INDIANA? So weird marketing. It's a weird marketing ploy just for the sense that you're doing a deal. Fifteen cents that would like goals give the goal is to bring as many people as you head into the theater and that's the one thing we're not supposed to be doing. Alpha. So. Odd move have they released anything from this theaters of how they're gonNA look like is there plexiglass in between each seat or something or? Well theaters with pre ordering tickets it would be easy to not allow certain seats. Okay. To just keep people separated that way where only certain seats are available. So you'll keep your distance but but are those that I cast a concert in Newcastle and the UK I love it. Shut up. Yes. Some people were like this is weird but I guess if it's what you have to do in order to get concerts going back I, saw it a quote a quote tweet on it was like I've been waiting for this for like twenty years. Yeah that's the thing who wants to go to a concert and rubbing shoulders and your bed and everyone, and you can't you have nowhere to sit. Back. I. Also experienced shoulders airy one, he can't walk you Udougov concerts. I've been many was I going to say? Well if you talk. The tweet for fan questioned. Now I didn't I forgot. Are you fucking kidding why are we to almost? With uses. The nine hole, actually seven Oh. You know what else is close and in the fucking bathroom taking a Piss. Ramirez. What else is in the bathroom taking a Piss who these comically. Show Up. That actually is very sad. Okay. What I'm looking for old tweet questions. Russians, you know who else is taking a shake. Comics. That's next story. SEGUE. No, but this is this is big news dude. One third of their Saturday question has been left La and of a lot of the veterans, lot of the veterans that help ushered in some of their most iconic titles. I, wonder if it more of like a, let's do an early retirement for these guys maybe get him out. No I think this moral. amick is no it's a little rating. Definitely comics, Rhody hanging on by threat. So. Thought to work together I'm assuming right I mean between all the drawing and not really it's just one fucking buys them. So? I think it's more of why don't need all these people it's unfortunate because you're probably not going to see as many as many good stories i. that's just how it goes when you cut your staff and by a third yeah, you're going to lose some of that creativity is this kind of seemed like it was coming regardless from the pandemic though, right a lot of these businesses that we're seeing. Now it's they've they were struggling before this and it is unfortunate and like we said, they've cut their division by one third Jim Lee's still there and he's acting as like a liaison between I guess they're film production companies in the common companies but they were though the list of names that they had their people that have been with. DC for decades. and. Like we said it's just it sucks for people who still enjoy comics and You know you see how popular superheroes have become. It's because of comics that this is where they started. I least at least there's APPs though where he can Soga Comex where it's not like, it's completely that's the thing that the apparently they're going to try and obviously maximize the digital market. which they have no choice I mean Stanley said it perfectly a comic is like a pair boobs. It's great to look at them on the Internet, but you'd rather hold them. And I think that's true. When it comes to comics, there's something I can't read digital comic. It's not the same flipping through the pages can't smell the ink. Color sometimes since and light I like did I could do a digital book digital comic Asia's Weird. I feel like it's just yet digital at the goal line top right corner to like the middle of fucking of the picture then to the bottom house marvel doing. Anything with them why think marvel may be in a better position because they're on the Disney umbrella? I. Mean Disney is not doing well so they may see some causes as well. Disney is struggling financially so that that may be the story next week marvel cut that staff not socks I mean it's. Pretty it's happening of everything. You know just just the kind of just rolling announce for ASA socks. Convention. Next week. Really it's like DC fan dome like a virtual experiences. Yeah. I think. So as kamikazes you get that email no, do they accept us? Did Not can't canceled on your account is officially canceled on. I. Got a email. Wow I. think it's going to be digital the working like Youtube in San Diego comic con La Okay I. Thought Maybe. They cancelled the digital version as well known the physical yeah of course. And Suck that digital version I. Guess I've obviously Asian. It's like not. Totally unexpected and they had a piece that together but. was just like every movies delayed. It's like I'll thanks San Diego COMECON. Breaking news breaking news. Things, change. But put at this. Here's this zoom of Marvel's runaways. What thanks US an. Exclusive. Funk Obama. Corona I was going to tweet for fan questions but then put. Replies can change your applies now. I'M GONNA take the questions from last week already tweeted Oh yeah. There you know it's an s one from last week. 'cause no one here. I don't like last week well, if you have a good one. It's a good question. I'm doing the fan questions today rose Bush from a manual cheek us just. Get this question and at Emmanuel because. That's for the fan to the side. People you call up to the show you better be red. Supposed to do. Aren't. Any trying to spell your name and all of this other Scott. It's not just show by show I'm giving you that opportunity to speak to him on. Don't call appeal she got into the second. Hey, guys big fan of the channel I wanted to ask Bowen Iron. Okay. You know what I? Wanted, don't you guys realize what triggered you love for cinema? Mama's like three years ago. This was I. When Bowen Canes Hey, you WanNa do a movie fucking. Fair enough. Right. I think for me. It was definitely that film chorus class that I took in high school. That's when I really started to get obsessed with it and and that's that's because i. Had A. Good teacher I've mentioned before. Miss, Berry she was also my English teacher. Is cluttered class once in and there was a test and you gave me zero. Good. I did I forgot it was a test. So yeah, that's not me. I was GONNA say don't you say something negative about she was the best she's so nice when she gave me two zero. She was very nice. Yeah. Can't take zero she does that Pan's labyrinth. Aren't. We know you deserve zero you cut the fucking. Like you're so honorable. Very. She showed me eternal sunshine. Of the spotless mind. Wash that in that film courses, we also did up eleanor. Yeah Pan's labyrinth was a great one of. Eleanor. was that the one the sorry not A. Newer La confidential. That one was the foreign movie Pan's labyrinth. Okay. No. No. I remember that show the former forgot. I forgot what it was. Steaming hot zero brands on the bathroom Mac. leany alive. I feel like you feel this way too. It's like you've always loved it beaten like realize it or you know like didn't really click and just like you just watch movies that's like what you do, but he didn't like actually be like, oh. My God. Like was there any movie that you guys like? Dissecting the first time we'll the first movies probably like fucking something stupid like. The Not. Stupid. But like the basic like fight club, it's like Oh. Wow. Brad Pitt was Edward Norton. The first movie we reviewed on this channel was fantastic four but I didn't write it. Moore's actually wrote it, and I just narrated it terrible review mute. Rookies. That's twenty fifteen five years ago. It's crazy to think about with the first solo one I did was Hail Caesar? And movie at did not like. Aren't you got some questions. Yeah just got this one five seconds ago. Wow. So this is from trae from CW. Riley three, what's TV show? That's claims well light, but you just can't get into. He blinders. That's one that I saw. That's a great show dude this is this is the garage into that I've watched it for like two seasons. He's got that far into. Just. I don't think it's bad by any stretch but people like you gotTa Watch peaky blinders at so great. It's fantastic. I didn't think it was anything special. It's very it's. It's like industrial London version of sons of anarchy, and those are fine shows and they're both very enjoyable and watchable but at a certain point, I think. A show has to be a little more to keep me engaged. Ted. Do you have an answer Yeah, I'm trying to think of the show boardwalk, empire, it's a boardwalk. Boy Empire, I love I like. Doing did to me. Oh, prick. Why like it? You don't like to show I like a good show for look at. My is a good show. He blinders. She's Coho saying I like Boardwalk Empire is the same as Bogan player and you liked boardwalk empire's. What's your show was born Oregon Where welcome doesn't like Steve? BUSCEMI. Love CB Michael. Pitt not, Brad Pitt, and how related the Brad Pitt. Which I thought for the longest time to grade last night. Always. Yeah you're pitting the movie industry come on. There's only one pit Michael. While there's two pits was only one smelly one. Yeah that's a bar. Scrap. It will be the SMELLY pit. For me. I don't know if there's a show that I dislike that's one. Not One that everyone loves that I. Dislike. That's the thing. There are a lot of iconic shows that I haven't seen. Like I haven't seen lost. I haven't seen peaky blinders off. Losses One I never. I couldn't get into worst losses ruined for me because my college roommate watched it and we're GonNa Watch it together but then Every time madman for you. You don't like Madmen and said I didn't like it. I, just stopped watching everyone says it's boring Lauren. It just made me want to drink alcohol like dark liquor and smoke cigarettes wear suits. But. I would just walk into the dorm like randomly and it'd be like three episodes ahead of me on loss and then guess what Happens Lander dishes all the fun times to me too. It's so annoying sons of anarchy is our show that everyone says is amazing I haven't started yet then I need to start. I. I actually finish sons of anarchy but. I don't know that peaky blinders relies too much on Look. How look how bad we are look how you know we don't we don't follow the rules or bad s but like we're also good never heard of gold, it's like pick a lane and choose it like breaking bed Walter. He embraced it they never tried the. Fact. Turn bed. That made nickel. They always have a bigger bad guy that they had to go against like look and they're not that bad look at this prick it's the godfather without the clever narrative or the interpersonal relationships. That's that's what it feels like. A lot of people do that they do the anti hero big bad criminal who's a monster when it comes other criminals but you know if there's like a little orphan girl that now needs a piece of bread he'd like raises her. To be wonder woman as Thanos with a is something I'm working on a script, right? Right exactly. Yeah exactly that. Yeah but. I don't know people have told me that peaky blinders gets a bit repetitive but I would have to watch it before I judged it. It's not bad by any means. Okay. This question. Yes wants from Brandon at Brandon M twelve hundred. What's the best drunk food hungover food. Okay hangovers Shag Nash Signs. Autographs Right not answer next question. All right. Well Yeah. Talk about seems to be a consensus drums road. 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But they should make like a peanut butter. His ass right now he's like hanging around the I'm not touching it. Also ask you know. We're going to do to them. Just Punch the foam don't have time for this show I can't kill. Your skin. On My mug drink. Some stupid. Life. You. mean. To math at the POD. The you could appreciate that like a peanut butter. Peanut butter milk think that'd be good. Peanut butter milk. Okay. Now they have recess do they my by that? Let's see. Let's see. What do we got here question. The Blazers in a must win game. And the nets or keeping up with? It seventy three or sixty, seven have. Is GonNa game trying to find that easy just took one very popular you know You see the back. Yeah Spider Elisa trip. Yeah. You made it out. What did the rock just by been? Didn't he is he like? By the XFL. Yeah. As crazy like everyone's buying sports. Here's now K. Jesus like is part owner of the Tim or Wants to remind the supersonics you say this once Burma. They deserve team then shut out to Seattle questionnaire from chronicle door. What's the longest argument you guys have ever had? Like a running argument, one disagreement that's lasted for years Oh this there's a few I know. I can't think of one of the top of my head. I mean me and Erin may have like four or five Shrek but we haven't had one in a wild, but we were very petty and like high school and college. Yeah. There's a lot of competing although at Rondo Harden Ones Longo and I don't think I could be decided yet. You've lost that wants hard and Ronald Ring Okay well. You. Use. The swear that Paul McCartney, was dead. I wanted to believe that not I Paul McCartney the bank bit conspiracy. One of them that come true with teddy attack I feel like I. Feel like they're just not coming to my head. Yeah. That's a great question wall. Between you and ask it's you think nashes a fake hockey fan. He also thinks you're a fake hockey fan that's kind of an ongoing one. That's ridiculous. He can couldn't name ten players Mike. He did on twitter, which I'm not even sure because no way he spelled them you of how it We did this like a month ago on the playstation Mike and he couldn't do it and when he finally did, he can only name last names. I can name every single player under on the right now even the healthy scratches. Superman for also guess good one. I. Can't think of anything I don't know. The question now if we can. Think about that one come back with some heaters chronicled door. I love that name? Gas Name Change. Steals. All identity. This runs from. Adelaide at. Saddle Saddle Bob, satellite knots, not so easy over there. What types of Shas hit different for you guys sponsor Utada? Or. What type of nap just hits different for you okay. The midday nap when you get into the bed. So you're just like we starting to hold the lay down for a couple of minutes and he just fucking knock like during lunch at work, go my car and fall asleep for forty five minutes. To Teddy really say this fighters ass was poking. You could see it's ass right there. You know what? They'll the midday nat when you nap in your own bed they say that's really bad for you. You're only supposed to sleep at night in your bed that that bad is supposed to be only associated with WHO says he sleeps and it's like when you doctors they say that it helps you helps you get to sleep faster this naps though does the one on the couch is the napping it's like, can we take a fifteen we grew I'll be back out like I'll handle it the golf bet you're making a statement. Done for the day. The couch nap is more like it just sneaks up on you. You don't go to the couch. Yeah. That's a great that you didn't go to the couch to. Fell Asleep on the couch ended up nap and being wake up like forty five minutes. You know it's an underrated the car slash plane net it might not be the most comfortable. No but it was up with a sore fucking neck. You Wake Godsend you're like especially on a road trip it's like Holy Shit wherein fucking Virginia that's nice yeah, it's like Oh, we were planning the plane for what socks on a plane nap though whenever three hour plane lane you fall asleep like ten minutes in and you wake up two hours left. That's the worst. That is the worst fuck not being able to fall asleep on the plane socks, I? Do my mom. Oh, I can never complain I. Feel so bad. I fall asleep in like two seconds. I'd be so angry sitting next on a flight. To Europe together because you've used not for eight hours one more question why just get so many replies I've taken a before. On a good at picking to I've taken a nap before woke up later and cold in the works I thought it was the next day because I was late. I sleep at five woke up at seven. I start work at six in the morning and I thought I woke up and our late for work and Colton this question from nashes anyone like me at. The high school not when you would wake up, it will be like seven and you think it's seven. AM The next day because. That that was always the worst Eb. Like. You said, you know you're panicky. You think you're late for work the bed net. Yeah. When you wake up and you have no idea what time it is, it's dark out and you just. So, fucking confused that. I hadn't your phone your fucking down. I had a day wasting NAPA couple of days ago. Yeah. have ruined my night. You've pathetic you slept what artery hours. What are you doing? Fell Asleep in class I'll just all death dude. When you fall asleep at your arm inside your teacher stopped trying to wake me up because it got to a point high school where was like listen? I'm not going to be out for your first and second period. I'm fucking sleeping exposure started like nine seriously I remember in college I had like. that. He's fucking like these big lecture halls and these little s seats and desk and I just like know any catch yourself like sleeping. I was like fucking five times and just. I don't know the people around would just like fucking staring felt so. Sad like guys washes. Do you think people get like morning classes in college like. With the hopes that they like they're like, you know what I'm. GonNa. Wake up early GonNa go to class. And then it just Oh. Yeah. That was me first day of college not the first day but one of the first weeks I had a class at seven am. And like you can make your own classes and you make seven am classics High School I woke up at seven thirty hecatomb in college I showed up to the class I was a little late. So it was like seventh seven two and the class was already packed. So I looked in and I knew if I walked in, I was going to get the everyone's GonNa turn around at once just stare at me. Watch me sit down teachers could ask for WHO I was. So I went home and never attended that class. I ended up paying the fee to drop it. Once, fell asleep on a an. Lacrosse on the way to a game and the coaches who is the guy well became also now the. puck yeah. He was like the tenth grade coach. Yeah Jamie. It's like my first year playing or whatever, and he was giving a speech before the game like a speech, but he was just like going over. Funding. So you're right. The ice no salsa. Question. Yeah this question here from Derek at Dj a seventeen. Any of the NERD Sukru have any tattoos or piercings. Or. What would you get if you didn't have one? I, don't think any of us do no no I have my two years Pierce at one time. Nash got his Nipple Pierced once? No, he didn't. Know Cancun. John I think it was like in high school you just came back with the nipple. heff appears came I came this close and for those that listening. It I'm pinching my my hands. Together he's got them to the Wesley Snipes Tribal Tattoo on the back to my neck. So My My Mom taught me out of it didn't Tinfoil we get that that he did. I never. I don't know. I never thought about getting a tattoo I wanted to know what to get I'm want to force it. Yeah. I wanted to before season eight I wanted to get Valor Margulis. But then after season eight salt. I wanted to do it to honor the show. The show meant so much to me. And the channel and the fans get a nerd soup tattoo. Tattoos No. I will get a soup my book. If we all do it. I'm not getting maybe. Kit Hey. Hey. If we make to a million soaps and to got a tattoo. A Tattoo. I'll do that. But it has to be something not crazy no soup on her but the. Could get it on my ass, an upper thigh. No I'm going to do it on like my hand your hands right here. Why like a nice hint at to do facetime through for a million? A million, dollars? Are Okay. I. Would you do familiar buddy statues like a thing now man tattoos have become very socially acceptable. I've seen all people. All people right? Their tattoos man yeah. If you stay in shape when you can. Post Malone. What is he gonNA look like at Sixty F- I. Want know he may. He's probably not going to stay in shape. He might not make the six. Yeah I mean. Louis Wayne's like thirty eight. Now he's still looks like. People always get so bent out of shape. It's like, Oh, you're ruining or feel like you want to face that to go off but I just wonder like. What the I it's the same of regular tattoos was postponed. Sat to his over his face. Looks Fun. He's a fucking hell how old is he is young he's fucking multi multimillionaire land. Malone can hits. He wants to get Faso's now. Nation. He doesn't look great to me but no, I wouldn't do it. Yeah. You wouldn't be possible on the what I would. I. Be Ozone Longhair faced hats imagine what's that tweet? Connor and he's out so bad that the whole crowd. I. Probably, don't like cigarettes. Out Cigarette. What is it? They say family Britney Spears smells like no taste like taste like salty garbage. That's what I imagined. Pulse Malone smelling like salty, our garbage. With with a heat with the humidity coming off. Yeah. When he walks by it's hot but it's It's yes, leaving. A heatwave smell I wanNA, cut this question of. Where your answers off. This one from Don Julio. At Chris Pace. Fuck, Mary Kill the MC, you Lord of the Rings Shoji? Harry Potter. Series. We're GONNA do it. voldemort couldn't kill Harry Potter. It's pretty good. potters getting killed. Marry. Lord of the Rings and Fuck the MC. Yeah. The mcat is probably one hell of a one night stand. That's A long one that's fallen you know not much there. The intimacy emotional intimacy isn't great but the physical intimacy and then your emotional intimacy so you can live with watching. Over and Laura. How crazy Al Awal we'll ride Lord of the rings find something new every day long sustains only three movies keeps you on your toes Yes. She's knowing she's nine hours though extended initiate. Maybe. She invites over the habits every now and then. Switch it up. Now it's full commitment. All right everybody that's inert. Sue podcasters today late night recording. I could tell that these guys are getting a little bit restless so Long Wider Now You actually are you came into your chipper you weren't. You weren't kidding though dry wasn't you're gonNA knock out tonight but Yes. Thank you gus listening make sure you share this with your friends and provide some feedback. Actually now just rated five stars. All wait. I want to see who won the pole. What Paul I did I appreciate the re tweets. A week ago. No yesterday we'll pull the DOODOO yesterday. Solid poll actually, I didn't see your polls get people talking now one has to go with older movies Jim Carey Sandler. Seth. Rogan will farrow Seth Rogan wins by two percent on Adam Sandler I wanna see those numbers actually what? What are the percentages? Twenty five, twenty, six, twenty, eight, twenty, one wow. Can Clo- that's hand held a bowl fuss dry sailors up there. Because people hold onto those old movies like nothing else yeah. A lot of people even though. Jim Carey surprise he's close our balance. Though. It's we who are who's afford Jim Carey Sandler Seth Rogan and will Farrell. throw has got a lot of good quality movies loaf for me it sandler no question. It becomes harder if you go like the three is will ferrell. What's his filmography? He's got the anchorman. He's got stepbrothers. He's got old school severs conic dude. He's made a lot of terrible movies sale at Lake, but he's got some classics Holmes and Watson you ever see that get hard not. Kevin Hart. Get, Hardy Talladega nights, homes, and Watts. fucking terry other guys. Yeah we'll fouls come on. He's got some heats on defense I, just saw Holmes and Watson that's fresh in my brain also. Was Right now semi Pearl Mega Mind. Yeah now's wrong. and WHO's the other one Jim Carr- you don't let I would say. Don't say I would bounce Jim Carrey before I bounced Seth Rogan. I love South Jane Visit Kidding me. Jim Carrey. One or two bad movies that fucking filmography naming off poppers penguins? He was probably strapped for cash. Yeah. Yeah probably. Seen in of Dick, and Jane at the entrance uses Coal Work co-worker Seagal how you been is like Oh got a job at Enron go K.. Says Enron W as for sure the Truman show Liar Liar. Colonel. Eternal Song you just wonderfully. Ranch. Cable Gosh yes-men Bruce Almighty. He's got. He's got a lot of its. He's got a lot of hits at Steve, carell myself and Irene Super Bad. This is the pineapple express knocked up the interview. I can't take super bad. The forty year old virgin. Salsa Party, the night before fifty fifty disaster artist is not to pickle movie pickle movie good boys, producer funny people that Sandler and and him. That was excellent. Give us all credit. 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The Sneeze of Death

Bob and Sheri

1:30:00 hr | 2 years ago

The Sneeze of Death

"The going on here. We. Friday, most people Fridays just a day before the Wiki to the end of the week when I wrap it to them of in his Friday. Verdy? Friday. Friday. Bobbing Sherry studios on this Friday. In the people's movie critic is going to be with us today in about an hour and a half reviewing serenity and Todd sent him to that. Because the critics say this is like the worst movie ever, Matthew mcconnahey, Anne Hathaway serenity people's movie critic in ninety minutes right here. Have you seen the net? Flicks. Production fire the greatest party that never happened. I haven't finished it started. You started it. Oh, folks if you have net flicks. Holy cow. I went in Mary was watching it. And I thought what is this? And she said this is something called fire. The greatest party that never happened. There was a guy named Billy McFarland. Who is this big promoter guy, and he came up with an idea of having this amazing kind of two thousand and fifteen Woodstock on an island in the Carribean. Ian. And so he he had a staff of twenty people. This guy was a big promoter was partnered with John rule. We. Yeah, that's right. That was his partner, and they had done something with like a special credit card for millennials made out of metal in New York. And it got a little bit attraction. But people were saying this guy's the most amazing amazing promoter, and so Jerusal and Billy McFarland cut. Some of the biggest models in the world. I mean, like a g g Hadid. Yeah. And Instagram influence and a bunch of bunch of Instagram influencers, which just cracks me up and flew them to this little deserted islands in the Caribbean near the Bahamas and took all of this footage of them. They're there. I mean, you know, what they're going to be doing. They're going to be frolicking in the beautiful blue. They're in bikinis there on this amazing yacht. They're drinking champagne, and you can hear Billy McFaul. Arlen and Shaw rule and the models going. Oh, yeah. You got to come and see us the party's gonna be amazing. We got a party coming up, and this is like a year out. Right. Well, the idea is the chart that that people in their early twenties to early thirties won a party like Rockstars on a party like supermodels. And that's what all the video is showing. These people are having a ball, the food is unbelievable. They're reading on the beach. Will they start to publicize it via, of course, the internet, and it starts to grow and grow. And now, they gotta make it happen. So they good onto the deserted island, and it's not big enough. So they gotta find some other place. So they find grand Exuma, which which is an island people. Go to vacation, the Bahamas off the Bahamas and they start renting or preparing to. Rent little houses that are available that people rent and all of the hotel rooms will there aren't enough and people are now signing up for it. It's gonna cost them like two grand each. It was it was really expensive minimum of two grand each and some of it like it up to eight thousand dollars. I think with with some packages, and you'll get to have, you know, extra rides on a private boat, and blah, blah, blah. Well, a lot of people signed up and the money is rolling in. But Billy McFarland didn't know what he was doing even hired some pros to help him out. But it got away from everybody. So they brought in these your light, tents and beds and said these people they're going to be drinking so much there. They can sleep on the beach in these tents will the day before everybody shows up. I'm not gonna give any more of it away. I just wanna talk about why I would not want to do this. It rains like crazy. And all of the uric tents are drowned and the bedding is ruined. And then within hours hundreds and thousands of people show up in this little Carribean island, and boy are they piss and it's chaos. It's chaos. I have never really had even when I was that age. I haven't had the desire to party like that. Because I always just thought some really bad's going to happen here. If there's one thing that anyone who knows you even casually knows the word year his nut something bobbly see before. No, I've seen beautiful your it's there's some in Maine. But it's not my thing. You can you can find your on VR B O and Airbnb, and I would love to stay in these were not your it's like that these were basically can't hints tents which eat mattresses people. They're suing and he jail. Ripped off. Yeah. Us in jail. But they this is some kind crazy documentary is something to watch. This guy is a con man of the highest degree charming. All all of the people working for him. The all lost their jobs all lost money. You know, where he really got burned. When all of this first happened it happened in real time. Because so many people that he brought down there for social media influencers. And what do you think they were doing? They were killing they were posting in real time. What was happening and how it was completed was asked way to put a good face on no way couldn't get away with a lot of times like especially back in the old days before the internet, you could tamp stuff you Tampa disaster like that down and then get the hell out of town. But now when the same people that we're going to sell it for you on Instagram are showing what's happening, some the style on Netflix. He got six years. It's Bob and cherry and stuff. You won't hear on the show the Bob and Sheri, odd cast on the Bob and Sheri app. Get it now in tune store or Google play. So you guys know that I have one of those today in history apps on my. Phone, right? And today, you wouldn't think it's February eighth, right? Okay. We're about a week off from Valentine's Day, and you wouldn't think that all that many awesome. Things happened on a random daily February eighth. You would not believe all of the things that happened on February eighth, and I'm just going to stick to the world of entertainment. Okay. Because it's so fascinating to me. All right. So February eighth nineteen sixty eight the original planet of the movie had its world premiere in no kidding. In nineteen Seventy-six taxi. Driver had its premiere Robertson. Oh, yeah. Here on February eighth. Good times launched on television, February eighth nineteen seventy four. And here's something I did not know until today. Good times is a spinoff. Did you know that of the jeffersons Maude of Maud? I love this note. You know, what it was if it was launching on that on this date. It was a midseason replacement Iago nineteen seventy four the soap opera the secret storm ended after twenty years. I have heard of the secret storm. But I guess there was a part of me that never really believed. It was a real thing. Oh, no. It was. What's another one? Oh, I can see the opening of that TV show in. It's one of the earliest and entice none another secret storm. Oh, can you? Please tell me because I've never seen one thing from it was. They always had in these. I mean, they were on in our house. But my mother never really sat down to watch them. But her friend Kami Connie's Zimmerman did. We know. Secret still. Would have these crashing waves. That's that's all I can remember. I would I we stuck over Connie's Zimmerman's house. Just sitting there mother while my mother visited I believe the secret storm if you remember from mommy, dearest Joan Crawford filled in for her daughter on a soap opera drunk. I think it was a secret storm all that's the one that that on. Here's something I want you to think about that that I've been thinking about since I was eating breakfast this morning and looking at my app, so we live in a time where we have devices in our pockets where we can sit on an airplane or a doctor's waiting room or wherever we can watch a movie on our phones in our hands. We have not just television, but cable television, satellite television, all the streaming platforms. We have so much to watch that we can't pick something to watch. But it wasn't all that long ago. The television didn't even exist. List on this day in nineteen forty seven ks d k TV began broadcasting for the first time in Saint Louis w LV a began broadcasting for the first time in Lynchburg, Virginia user TV stations. KIRO began broadcasting for the very first time in Seattle and K a CB in Texas began broadcasting for the first time, these are brand new television channels that still exist today that for the first time we are coming to you live with pictures and sound that wasn't all that long ago. People have you ever seen the photographs of book about the fifties of people of standing outside appliance stores looking in the windows and watching at what a television was they didn't have the money or they thought they didn't have the money to buy a television. Or maybe they thought it was a fad, but they would bring their kids downtown to whatever their city was and stand there and say look at this is like that's like. A movie on that little box. There are people alive today. I don't know if they're listening right now. But there are people alive today who watched a TV station broadcasts for the first time, and who can now watch their favorite TV show in their phone on their phone in the palm of their hand is an amazing job. I thought so that's why I brought it up. Wow. You know, you don't ever think about it. But that's right. Really cool stuff less than a hundred years ago. Get the more on of the day sent right to your phone text moron to eight Bob share to sixty seven four three seven excited. Sherry it. I along with my wife, Mary we are going to South Dakota to visit some of our listeners and raise some funds for the Aberdeen, South Dakota boys and girls clubs, which is a fantastic organization for them. They do such a great job. And I'm going to promise you we will not be late getting to the airport. I saw this thing about being late, and I had to laugh because Mary's been traveling a lot lately, she went with my daughter lands, and as you know to Tucson Arizona, the two of them make jewelry Mary just pick this up as a hobby. I every time I go to a an airport with Mary's. Why are we going so early? Why are we going so early? We're just going to be sitting around what I hate showing up late. So she she said to me. So I'm going to leave the house. This is when she was going to Tucson, I'm gonna leave the house around six the flights not till seven thirty. And I said why what she said, look, it's it's a low traffic on the weekend. I'm not worried about it. It's not gonna be a problem. Here's una read. You the texts that I got from her that morning. Sweet jesus. What was I thinking by flight leaves at seven thirty. I'm in my seat, but I have been moving it. Lightning speed didn't leave the house until six forty. She left. The house at six forty the airport is what thirty minutes at least how in the world. Did she get there? Go through security and get on that plane. She must have just been running like Olympic athlete and got luck. And got lucky just got lucky. I hate being in that situation. Wouldn't you rather? Just hang around and read a paper, a read a book or a magazine. Gene or something. I don't like to be late for anything. So YoM right there with you. So anyway, she she sent this to me, and I replied that's how mama role, and I put in I put in the emoji of the guy with the crazy is crazy is with a tongue hanging out. She didn't apply to reply to that one. For some reason. Why? 'cause you schooled her. Shut it. What replied can she make to that other than you're right, Bob? What's the likelihood of that coming my way, first of all no one in your life is going to put your right Bob in writing? It's never been bad enough to say, it's never been Renault gonna put will. That's right. So anyway, here at some of the things that are good things about being early when you estimate how long it'll take to get somewhere always round up to the nearest ten. So if you say, it's fourteen minutes assume it's about twenty minutes to get there. And you won't be late. I think it's a very good idea. Right. Learn to be okay with waiting. I never got the whole thing that all right? So you're at the airport in our early or you're in for a meeting in some outta town office a half an hour early. Walk around the little park in the town or have a Cup of coffee right now that we all have phones watch a movie moving. Yeah. Watch movie. Here's a good one for my wife. By a wall clock and put it somewhere where you can see it all the time. She's not gonna do that. She's never gonna do that. There are people there. I think there are people that are like us that are just born wanting to get everywhere ten minutes early. And then there are people like her, and like, my older daughter who feel like as Livia says time isn't real. To mike. Via has a job. Her job is only a mile from our house, but it's a mile from our house that is fraught with you know, where I live in Saint traffic. So it might take your few minutes at might not you don't know. You're something else. That's not real about half, the boobs in LA, nonetheless, they exist time, it's not real. So she has to be at work at three thirty at three twenty three. She'll say to me mother as Isla type Walker shock over on. Of course, I can take you to work. You don't need to get an Uber standing right here in front of you. But we should've left ten minutes ago and like calm down, by the way, accomp- trollers. She's never going to be getting minimum wage at the cupcake place taken. That's about half of what she's going to. Exactly. America's not a business major. There's nothing to worse. Going into finance. Oh that is. So so I'll get in the car, and I'm like, I'm in a cold sweat because I don't want her to be late for work is like Saal. Let's just. You know, what these people need they need to miss the plane one time. That's all it takes. They never do miss the point. That is all shown never misses the plane. Meanwhile, little miss August to the airport yesterday in order to catch this flight. I missed the plane in Vegas because I got caught in so much traffic. And by the time, I got the rental car back. I read through the airport like OJ in those commercials. And as I got there they were closing the door to the gate, and I'm like, I'm in the game aging coz, you are but you're too late and the plane took off without me. They won't open the door once it's class. Once I know that's just the way they roll leaves the house like a half an hour before takeoff. And makes her flight. They started boarding twenty minutes after she left the house. Now, you still have to go through security, this you can't follow. This example. Oh, this doesn't work for you. People have magical spells that, but when TSA sees Bob running through the airport, they tackle them, right or trip me on the way, they assume they assume criminal we've got him more on with Bob and Sheri, he's a moron. It's morons in the news. The pope owes in Dale county. North Carolina rated an illegal strip club in a guys garage. He said, it's not a strip club. It's my man cave. And the reason it has Poland there is because my wife and daughter use it to exercise, which which makes even Ekier it makes it even cure, and we saw a picture of the outside of the man cave strip club. And there's for some reason an old hearse. So there's just a whole lot of stuff going on in Dale county with that story. Why would you throw the daughter in there? No, we're really excited to launch. Our brand new podcast the Bob and Sheri fund size podcast which max worked so hard about and on. And it comes out every Thursday in honor of fun size. Today's more of the day is twenty eight year old Joshua Hilliard of Arizona. He works as a welder and steel fabricator, and he's currently on probation for prior felonies in Montana, Wyoming, burglary, that meth possession, blah, blah. Could he got arrested during a meeting with his probation officer? He was charged with providing harmful materials minor. So what is the connection with today's more of the day? Josh Hilliard and Bob and cherries new funds size podcast. Well, one of the things he gave the minor was an unsolicited photo of his stuff, and he had the words fun size tattoo. Did not did he did. And the look on this man's face. In his mugshot hope. Woody. Somebody needs a weapon. Yeah. I'll more onto eight to six to seven four three seven. We'll Senator your we're going to bucks back to North Carolina. That's unusual. There's a college student at the university of North Carolina, Greensboro, whose name is Mattie, and lately Shuna roommates have been worried they might have a ghost in their house items have been disappearing and a restrained handprints on the wall, and they heard rattling in the closet. Classic goes stuff. So finally on Saturday. Mattie, got up courage the open the closet when she heard something. She opened the closet. Check the good news. It was not a ghost bad news was a creepy, dude. Who broken into the apartment was trying on Maddie's close. She says I opened the door. And he's in there wearing my clothes. My socks my shoes. And he has a book bag full of Mike close the cops came and arrested thirty year old Andrew swatted for breaking and entering. Manny was so casual about reporting, this that was that was pretty scary culture. You open up the keeping her cool. I know she did let's go to Pennsylvania. Now police say that Mitchell. Bizarre. Bizarre. Check, I think is how they pronounce his name is twenty eight. Banged on a couple's home woke them up and said, I got you gotta let me and I'm running from Zambia, and snakes he actually kicked out there front or window, and the people inside the home got her frying pan and a hammer, and we're trying to wield him, you know, trying to keep them off with the frying pan olive oil sil- when he heard the police sirens coming because they call nine one one he went to their back door and started trying to kick it in a bench. He did get arrested and police say we could not find the pursuing zombies or the snakes. And we believe he's under the influence of something that he shouldn't be once again. Text the word moron. Two eight eight two six two seven four three seven. We'll send fun size right out to your phone today. That's like out of an old movie or an old cartoon Bopanna mother head with. That's what they have. Right there. 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Instantly get the podcast and odd cast. Oh, Jake men's wants you to have five hundred dollars. That's right. A visa card for five hundred dollars. You got to tell us why you need this money after all that holiday spending. And we have two qualifiers today because we forgot to do one on Monday ABC's, our first qualifier today is actually Simmons. And Ashley says the reason I'd like to win the Bill money is because I work fifty to sixty hours a week to pay my bills, I work as an EMT on an ambulance. I don't get holidays or weekends off. Our job is twenty four seven. I also go to school fulltime to get my degree and he s emergency services. The money would help me pay my bills and be able to take a day or two off. So I can spend some much needed time with my family, actually Simmons our first responders. We work them to death. So congratulations. Ashley, we're going to send you a big old bag loaded up with all kinds of swag and Jake men's all kinds of flavors. 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Serenity starring Matthew, mcconaughey and Anne Hathaway and Todd tells me it is considered to be the worst movie of Matthew as Kurt keep reading about that. I saw something about that just over the weekend. How could how could that happen? We'll find out. We'll find out where the people's movie critic. I saw the trailer for it. I mean, the story has all kinds of potential just like his commercials. Yeah. Like, you go all this is kind of like body can see this happening. So why it went so bad? Did you hear what happened to one of the reporters on Fox News? Dana Perino, it was so funny. It was a classic example of what life is like in the world of social media. So for Super Bowl Sunday, she took a picture of something she made, and it's it's in a pan, and it's like orangey Brown. And I I didn't know what it was at first. But the she tweeted out the photo and her caption was I made caso well. America responded, by by taking pictures of some of the most disgusting foods, they could find the caption. I made caso. Right. And and blue and then in defense in her own defense. Dana said, but I followed the recipe the Chili's restaurant gave caso, and this is how you know. Like, it's twenty nineteen Chili's the restaurant tweeted out a picture of their case. So instead yet supposed to look like this. So and your Schily's shaded her for her Caja terrible can't leave the house anymore. If you put something up online, you have you better look at it about five times. And you'd better be ready. That's exactly right. I made vegetable chicken soup. That's belated thing. I jumped in and here's what I found out. You don't look like you're happy about it. Well, here's what I found out. When you just freelance something is sometimes those workouts. You didn't follow a recipe. I followed the recipe, but I just had a taste for some of those little teeny pasta things. I still have that in the box. Yes. I said, you know, what this this soap need some of that did Leany it'll give it a little bit of, you know, bulk and haft. So I just you know, like, Rachel, I'm very much like Rachel Ray. I don't measure small images Yassin. So I just threw it in didn't cook it, I no, no, no, no. It did not cook it first. And so it was looking pretty good. It wasn't all that. Tasty. Now, I did get the I got the recipe from Campbell's online. I just I know I know you'll have slugged Campbell Soup for years. And that's where you got the recipe. Well, I mean, it was the simplest see Campbell's own Swanson, which was might my chicken. Broth. Okay. So that's why that's why they had it up there. Right. And then they said to go get go to the store and get a rotisserie chicken. You know, what I found about rotisserie chickens, then are always taste so good. They taste really Hemi Lee. Don't they it's not that? What is taxed it's the texture. It's like eating Cottigny. Why are they like that? If they're just going around. It's like a wad of chicken. Mrs because they sit there so long under the heat lamp when you. It's not like that. See what time it was put out if it's been sitting there for four hours. That's what's going to happen to it. I'm gonna be checking with my friendly person behind the counter exactly when did this. On the label. It's on the label on labor and until the minute and to the minute. It'll say what time it was put on say like twelve thirty five. And if it's like four hours later, if you ask them, they'll give it to you for discount. All right. All right. They'll give it to you for a discount Bob March fares says this rotisserie chicken is four hours old. I would like it discount the person at the stirs gonna say, and my me Mon hell wants ice water here and the tiddly put a little too much. So it all became like a flow. I gotta find another recipe of this. Don't freestyle don't get your recipes for. Get Lamar's reviews sent right to your phone text movie to eight Bob Sherry to do something. Sherry what's been really irritating me lately your ill-fitting slim Cup and Anna Republic buttoned-down occasionally. But I'm talking about the whole concept of the influencers social media influence at somebody's making a lot of money just by saying, ooh, this new perfume, or whatever it is drives me out of my mind. Just drives me out of my mind. I found out last weekend that the influencers have been around a lot longer than we thought. So I'm going to New York City in the northeast for a couple of days. I have still have a couple of relatives up there one. I have to look after and I see some friends to every once in a while. I got excited Mary book my ticket. She Comey a first class ticket a great deal. I'm so excited go into the airport going I'm going to. Years somebody split, and then my phone ding than it said your flight will be delayed until three o'clock this afternoon. What that that takes the whole New York thing out it'll be dark by the time. I get there. Oh, 'cause you thought you were going to have a little time to yourself, and I'd have to take the she flew to Newark. So I'd be taking the train from Newark in the dark. I won't do that. So it dings again. And it says Mr. Lacey we have a flight for you at noon, which is a half an hour from where I am. So I over there, and I got there and it wasn't first class. And I set in the middle between a big guy and a lady with a tiny dog. Sorry, did you at least refined for the ticket have to track that down good luck? When at the at the gate, this woman gave me a look when you ask how do I get that money back? She put her out sometimes a win put her head down. She put her head down look to me. And I went. I hold day. Right. They're tracking that town. So anyway, get to the hotel the hotel. She booked me into. I'd never been before it's called the Warwick hotel, and it's this famous hotel midtown where you were really in the middle seat between a big guy and little tiny dog that I could see from his head looking up at me. But she couldn't she wouldn't take. He was a cute dog. That was soothing though. I mean bet that may light better not really move your hands or your arms, but I like dogs, but never leave. So I get to this Warwick hotel. And I see these old pictures of black white pictures of this woman on every floor all over the place. This hotel was the hotel that William Randolph Hearst built for his lover Marian Davies, I guess back in the nineteen twenties of the or just because it was it was his gift to her how and I so I started reading the history of this place. Carey grant, the famous movie. Star live there for twelve years. He knew Hearst. He would go to Hearst castle. Because he was the biggest movie star all the women loved him. He was so handsome. He lived there for twelve years in what my guess is. He lived for free and just once in a while walked through the lobby so people would say or staying where Carey grant lives so influenced, sir. It went back that far. So it would be like you're going to a hotel anybody going to a hotel, and Brad Pitt lives there. You saw him. Once you you tell all your friends were staying. We're Brad Pitt. Luke's bet. You're right. That's how I know. I'm right on that twelve years. I'll tell you. What else? You're right on God doesn't mean for you. Why not? Get Lamar's reviews sent right to your phone text movie to eight Bob sharing the people's movie critic joins us now. Let's see what he thinks of the brand new ones starring Matthew, mcconaughey and Anne Hathaway, it's called serenity. Hey lemar. I have no idea where to begin on this the movie starts out. Good enough. I mean, Matthew mcconaughey plays Baker deal a vet who came home from Iraq? He dropped out of society. He moved to Plymouth Allen and became a charter boat, captain and businesses not very good. But mostly because he spends most of his time out trying to catch this huge fish, which he has named Justice. He hooks it, and he fights it, but it always manages to get away, and even when a paying customer hooks to fish Baker pulls a knife onto guy takes the rot away from him and tries to land of fish. I don't know much. But I'm pretty sure that takes a toll on those yelp reviews. Bendon? He has a first mate name do played by Jim and Hans Jim on how to and he can't pay because they're not doing any business when he runs out of gas money he sleeps with a lady named Constance who's played by Diane lane. And she pays him. Now. That's pretty good work. If you can get it. And I don't know why quit the boat. I mean, I don't know. But there's a couple of noticeable things about this thing. Baker smokes, more than the guy on the X files. I mean, I can't remember a scene in the movie that he does not have a cigarette in his mouth wore me out that is unusual movies today. Go ahead and be the amount of times, we see his mechanize. I mean, he spends a good part of the film swimming underwater naked now, I was expecting a bigger runner. But I guess the water was cold. So I have at work. Maybe that's why he's he's really kinda strange looking in those Lincoln ads. This review is already left the ranch. I know you don't know we don't even see the ranch at the end of this movie that the plot thickens when baker's ex wife and mother of his son played by Anne Hathaway shows up. I love in Hathaway, I know everybody doesn't. But I love I think she's a great actress. But this was not the role for her at this point in the movie is when it takes that turn towards the film Noir. And she is supposed to be the bleached blond fem fatale that makes men swim. It comes across as a bad. Jessica rabbit impersonation is what it is. It it does at work and her story is after her and Baker separated out. She married this beating zillionaires named Frank played by Jason Clark. Now if she tries to leave him he will kill her. So she offers she tracks down biker. She offers him ten million dollars to take him out fishing in throw him to the sharks. Now Becker doesn't want any part of this. But here is concerned about his son. Then he starts getting telepathic messages from his son now while this is going on all during the movie, there's a guy in a suit and attack carried a briefcase, and he's trying to meet with Baker. But he always misses him by couple of seconds. So between the town of Pathak messages and the gun to suit. You know, something weird is coming. Okay. Trust me. No matter what you can imagine. That weird thing is you are. Wrong. You are wrong. You could guess this for the rest of your life, and you would still be wrong. This last hour of the movie will take you own a trip that is the most preposterous plot twist I've ever seen. I mean, this makes mcconaghy's Lincoln commercials. Make good sense. Okay. In fact, if that bull that blocks the road would have shown up dressed as a cocktail waitress servant while Turkey on the save the movie, I'm just telling you Shamlan is going. This crazy to me. The movie is one hour and forty six minutes rated r for language sexual content and bloody images. But what it's mostly rated R far is ridiculous and refund which is what you're going to want to get when you. Let me say this. I if in the last ten minutes, if Adam LeVine, maroon five had shown up on the boat, it would've made more sense than what's going on on the screen. I mean, it was the craziest thing I've ever. I mean, I plugged them for taking a chance. But oh, buddy. How reason it's playing in February how is the romantic seen with Diane lane? She. Hathaway lanes the older she gets beautiful. She is she's just such. How they got her doing this. But so this this is not even like, don't even wait and watch it on demand this watch. Oh, no, just go to one of these websites and read when they ruined the plot. Go ahead or talk to Bob, but re go. And find out what happens you be glad you didn't spend the money. What do you give Moscow? This is one bottle of corn syrup which evidently Budweiser does not put. People's movie critic get Lamar's reviews sent right to your phone tanks movie to eight Bob, Sherri, we the people's movie critic to stay because he's had some major change in his life that we want to talk about. But but I have to point out that you have not asked Bob about his middle finger which he had operated on Monday of this week. You have failed to ask him how his middle fingers. A huge tendon pool when Bob I mean over exertion or I don't really extension. That's what everybody says overuse is what everybody says, I don't really even know the exact medical term for what it was. But something burst in my middle finger, and and backed up some some sort of liquid and they had to go in there, and and get clean it all up, and they did a great job. I thought it was going to be very easy. You know, it was going to be like I'd look the other way in about five minutes. But they when they came in and said, here's your gown, we need you naked at that point. I know we're involved here, and I had to go under and it was an all day thing. No brave and stoic about it. Like your. Think of brave I think about. Going to be okay. Yeah. I'm going to be fine. It'll be back in a complete use with that too. Yeah. Yeah. A warning. You can switch hands. But I don't care what they say. It's never the same. It's not the same. You know, what's going on with you? And with Carla. Last week. I'm at the gym, and I get a phone call and Carlos is at her place of business where she's been over ten years. They had a huge layoff of like thirty eight people, and she was one of them. No. And I'm like, well, what does that really mean? She goes habit job. That is not what you. Oh, and you know, here's the deal about a job, and you're going to relate to this. It's not so much the job. It's those people that you work with every day, you see those people more than you see your entire family stroke, me, you spend all that time with them you go to lunch with them. And if you're fortunate enough to have people that you like and they become your work family. All of a sudden, you just for no fault of your own. She flew in from Florida they'd been on a business trip her and her boss. She flies in and out the door. And it's you know, it's like a death in family almost as far as a whole group in process. And you know, you some of those people you don't see again or you don't see very often, right? But no, you don't. And I mean, you've been seeing these people five days a week eight hours a day all the time. And now all of a sudden, you don't see many more. But you're you're seeing her you're seeing her a lot more. Right. So are you loving like you get her undivided attention? Now, aren't you lucky? Oh is right to have our undivided. Attention undivided, absolutely take what the first two days, though, you've had this. You know, how you would be. If you unexpectedly was unemployed, and you're not seeing all these people, buddy, buddy. It was a sad. Sad day for a couple of days, but we're good now. We're good. We're up removing. We got stuff going on. And we're staying constant contact. Yes. We're staying in constant contact. Goes on at the house during work for brought for for blockbuster and put you out of business. Didn't she wasn't that part of the deal before you knew her? Yes. Wow. Out of business that didn't see that coming. Did. You did not see it did not say. So so is is she like following you around all day, making sure making your life easier showing you thousand. Hip hipping me in every possible way. That's kevin. When he looks a little frustrated. I'm like, I'm just here to make your life better. The other day. I ask you about some. She goes I have been busy all day. And she starts giving me a list of all the things she had to do that day. It's a good thing. You don't have a job. We have time to work stuff. You've got going on that was an unusual response. Right there. Listen, it's a fulltime job love and a good, man. Like you. You too full. He started the DIY project at home. Then you realize convenience isn't always easy. The why why doesn't mean why is this so hard that DIF? Why do it for you? 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Well, you can imagine where this is translated to for an adult and that now God forbid her husband or anybody else doesn't say God bless you. She thinks part of her soul is flying away. Help us Sherry have you heard this one before? Yes. You guys have heard that one. Yes. And it worries me because like I have a lot of things that I'm allergic to most of outside is what I'm allergic to and also dust and their days maximum backmile peer days where I sneeze like thirty times in a row studios. Do you die and the answer is no you don't die. So the way the reason for this. The reason that people think that is because a sneeze can affect your heartbeat because of the nature of what's happening your body convulses a little bit. It's violent. It can bump it a little bit not dying. Okay. But if you believe that in the husband doesn't say God bless, you you the husband gets such a stink eye right after that. Right. If that's part of your life cavern has gone off on a I think it's because he lives with someone with allergies. He announced me not too long ago that that it's just ridiculous to have to say bless you every time someone spice so agree with him. You get. Here's here's what I think. You get one bless you. And that's it. If you're if you're in a sneezing attack like I'll get an sneezing attack once in a while. And I hate it. If like five people around they go, God bless you. Thank you. Then I go again. Oh, God bless you. Now, I feel like I am. I am blow up my head. So they'll have to keep saying that. No, that's codependence. That you would want your entire floor rather have your head blow up and someone. I I've got to go back into therapy. This is ridiculous. I just ridiculous. Thank you. Four. Formed that he will be rationing. His bless shoes. I was like way to pick a hill to die on. You need to get something in your house. Purifies your ear or something? I do really well at home because I don't have carpet. Oh, that's right. Lots of things I've done lots of Jerry lives on dirt. They have dirt floors. I've done lots of things to make things better at home. But some days I come in here because this is a dust ear carpet. We not only have carpet in the studio, but we have some sound. I don't know, blah, blah, fabric on the walls. This is a person with allergies night. And this the sun proofing in the walls. It's been here for ten years. It's never been cleaned. It's I mean, I can look up at the ceiling and and see like filth hanging from the vents in the great stick. It's called Sonics. Yes. Of course. I sneeze in here. I don't yacht by the way, this is still one of the nicest radio studios world. So y'all don't have to say bless you when I sneeze thirty times. But at the same time, you also don't have to inform me that you you are rationing. My bless shoes because that's unnecessary. Just get on with your life. I'm not I'm not looking. Why would I make some kind of a stupid proclamation? It's not on brand. That's for sure. Am I right though, that you know, if you are in the sneezing fit, it is sort of pressure on you to not settle down the settle down after like the fourth or fifth sneeze detect people going RA drama Queen. That's enough. You don't get near this. This is so disgusting and sickly now I read and I'm trying to remember where I read it just recently that sneezing is related to another explosive neurological experience that humans can have you have you read that. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And I read that that experience. I don't know if this is true or not you blackout momentarily. I don't think that's I don't think that's true. But when you sneeze, you're saying, no. I have to say that. Sometimes I sometimes I say Lord, you bless me mightily with Sinisi, maybe divvy it up. I'm eighty twenty. Oh, yeah. Tough life. The more on of the day sent right to your phone moron to eight Bob share to sixty seven four three seven who were the biggest winners of the Super Bowl in my opinion, the backstreet boys. I think you're right. Actually that that. Yeah. Yeah. And and Todd was telling me not only do they have a hit record right now. They've got residency. They've got a residency in Las Vegas. Would you have predicted that all those years ago? I wouldn't have predicted it by would've hoped for it. I love me, some backstreet boys. So I mean, you know, actually their fans are just about Vegas age. Now, you know going to Vegas having a good time, especially with like bachelorette parties and things like that. You could see how that would work. And so I was reading that somebody there's a group called the pub choir, and they are out of Australia, and what they do is they get hundreds of strangers together for a massive sing along and they've done them in several different cities. And then they posted online and tell you how to be a part of it one of their videos. That's making the rounds right now has fifteen hundred people singing, the backstreet, boys. I want. It that way inherit is. Pretty cool. Those are good singers the arrangement. Correct they're in groups like here's some guys ING, and there's somebody directing them. So so you get that clarity of arrangement sin. The original song. Right. Can we post this video? Those those are really I don't wanna say trained singers. Those who singers they must be inquires those some people they just found what cannot have a bar. The saying he laughs last laughs best the he's left last or the he's in the backstreet, boys. Because. Static roy. They were the punchline of Elida jokes. They were but they swaggered back into suitable fifty three in those coats chance the rapper totally one consume money offer all those years. Listen to the end. All right there. It is. Fifteen hundred strangers. I wanted that way the pub choir Bob, Sherry, Sherri. It's stuff you won't hear on the show the Bob and Sheri hot cast on the Bob and cherry. Congratulations again. To today's. Jason's qualifiers actually Simmons Pimm summers will have grand prize winner on Monday. All the details are b o B A N S H E R dot com. Archer we in the way back machine. So we do that. Let's do it the way back machine and go. We're going to start way way back. These are all show business things in the way back machine, and we'll start one hundred years ago, and then come up to more contemporary times where it's not that old. Okay. One hundred years ago today in nineteen nineteen Charlie Chaplin, Mary Pickford. Douglas, Fairbanks in silent movie director DWI Griffith created United Artists movie studio, and you still see it's still there in some way, shape or form they decided to say no to the other studios. The artists were going to own their own seventy years ago in nineteen forty nine. The IRS revealed that Humphrey Bogart was Hollywood's highest paid actor he earned four hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars Bette Davis was highest paid woman. Listen to this of any profession in America. She earned three hundred twenty eight th. Thousand dollars thirty percent less than bogey. Think about that. Now, you're saying right now that's still that's a lot of money. But it's not if this is nineteen forty nine that's a long time ago. All right. So set four hundred sixty seven thousand dollars is a lot of money. But the thing that blew my mind was Betty Davis was the highest paid woman in the United States. Things have not they're not as good as they should be for women by any stretch of the imagination, but they have gotten better because I don't think an actress would be at the top of the pile making money. There are women executives now that would be making considerably more. It's still hard to make more than Oprah. Yeah. Yeah. It is a rich right and beyond say, really hard. I don't care. How Oprah's business you're executing your executive nece? But Oprah is a businesswoman. Oprah's more the former that's right. That's so is beyond say, but it's still in the world of entertainment. That's where there are women. Who are in Silicon Valley, and they're making hundreds of millions of dollars in. I I don't know who the highest paid woman is, but it may not be Oprah anymore. I don't I don't think it is look at the fortune list of the celebrities billionaires. Yeah, I don't I don't know. Serail sambergen Facebook who knows something like that? Right. Someone like that sixty six years ago. It was nineteen Fifty-three. I love Lucy received an EMMY for the best situation comedy over the next several years Lucille ball, Vivian Vance and William Frawley all receive individual EMMY awards. Her husband Desi, arnez never won an EMMY he was never even nominated for an EMMY and five years after he died. He was inducted into the hall of fame in on. Oh, that's not fair. It's not fair to him. That's not fair to him. I wonder why he didn't get one. Fred Fred got one so everyone, but listen liberally. He was the Susan Lucci of the show. Yeah. He was also a real cheater. I don't know anything about I read something about that somewhere. You know, when you seem just so likable. He was cheating on her left. And right just broke Lucy's heart that that's why they finally got a divorce after creating that deshea loose studio fifty three years ago. The number one song in America was the ballad of the green berets berry Sadler. He was a sergeant of green beret, and it was during the Vietnam con war, and he came out and sung about the battle of green berets. And I never realized this. He was shot to death in the head while sitting at a cabin Guatemala City. And he was only forty nine years old. Oh my God. That's terrible way to go. And now, we'll get a little more contemporary eighteen years ago in. Two thousand one Kelly Ripa officially replaced Kathy Lee Gifford as Regis Philbin co host. And she has not eaten thing since. Now. I just read an interview with her. And she said that every night before she goes to bed sheets half a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Is that right? And she said that this is something she like when she said, I think what I think it was thirty seven or thirty eight when I was thirty seven or thirty eight I would never have done that. But now like eat the sandwich. Listen, I saw some shots of her one of your magazines, people magazine with her kids and her husband on the beach somewhere Hawaii somewhere like that in a Pechiney. She looks incredible there. She had a selfie on her Instagram with her and her husband work Consolo. I love his name Marcus Walea because when you say more Consuegra's name you have to say like you're on a daytime. So. Can't stop yourself Martin swallow. So and she didn't have any makeup on so, gorgeous and charming. I don't understand. Why people would not only that? I don't watch that show. Yeah. We're still love her vacation will catch it once in a while Mariel put it on if we're away somewhere. She's very funny. She's very quick. Very witty this excessive that show Regis has been gone for very long excessive that shows nine accident. No, it's not and she's been the one thread that has kept up and going. She works hard to back in the machine or yes. We'll we'll be in the dinosaur. Four. Alexa, Bob and Sheri on tune in. All right. There are a few words that I just don't like I don't use them. They're not really dirty words. But I choose not to use them. However, I have to use one of them here in order for this story with Bob and Sheri small plates, which is what we do. An intro was no down. Now, we're fine five inch series small plates. Well, that actually was thank you. So have to use this word right now with our first small plate. I don't much about the trolls movies. My kids were older so seen them. They're bright. Yeah. And there's there's one character named guy diamond. And evidently, he he's a troll that and here we go farts glitter. That's that's what he does. Is that not what he does? Right. And somebody posted a video at Universal Studios in Orlando of guy diamond. Dancing with this fellow trolls branch in poppy. And as he finishes he gives his trademark art of glitter. I'm just wondering if like two hundred years from now, social scientists look back in and they say to one another this was the period where humans were aware that there was warming. Why didn't they do anything? What were they doing? And one would say from my research. They watched a movie where troll was farting litter. Listen that may be there's no guarantee of what will be preserved that could be one of the things that people of the future may try to interpret our whole civilization from. That's right. Hawaii is considering banning cigarette. Sales to anybody under a hundred years of age. I think it's brilliant. Outlawing cigarettes. If you're a hundred, and you're you can prove it, you get to buy a pack of cigarettes, otherwise though cigarettes for you know, what this is going to create a blade. Mark driving black. Oh, yeah. I see what you will. Fick crime rackets prohibition in for the mob. I didn't think about the cigarettes so much. You gotta freedom is a messy business and people are free to make good choices and bad choices if you outlaw them, then you're you're creating a criminal. If you if you're smoking, I hope that you stop. And I know it's hard. I'm not sure if I can roll my eyes harder. But it was so. So. Criticize when I when I preach get criticized when I take the subtle approach encouraging people to better help that was so weak your your sincerity game is so lane you need a lesson. Trying not to hammer Ernie anyone who still smoke you need a lesson from the insincere sincere master. And here's how it's done. Max. Are you ready? Okay. Mexican hits. Okay. Give him some insincere sincerity. The second here. Okay. I really do that you quit smoking bad for you. Better. Really? Facing? No one of your face, you criticize sharing Lynch. You criticise me go, preach Prideaux? The country. Twenty seven year old guy in India is suing his parents because he didn't consent to being born. This story didn't ask the parents just love that. Robert patterson. Did you hear about this is reportedly in the running to be the next Batman and Kristen Stewart is sought to play the moodiest damn cat woman. Between traveling for work, which I do a lot and on the road with my daughter for competition dance. I have burned through a lot of luggage. I have broken wheels. I've broken straps. 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That's when you know, you're dealing with a really great quality product when they back it up for life, and they believe so much in it that they're like go try it for a hundred days a love this thing, if you're road warrior, like I am you're gonna love it to take twenty dollars off your away suitcase. That's a way travel dot com slash Sherry, promo code Sherry for twenty dollars off. Trust me. This is the suitcase that you're going to have for the rest of your life away. Travel dot com slash Sherry, listen, the new bomb in Sherry twenty four seven, Bob and Sheri dot com. These are just two little stories that I got a hold of that. I want to kick around with you for a second here. A woman was trapped in the elevator of a luxury townhouse in New York City for an entire weekend. Friday through Sunday. And she did not get out until people came around like Sunday night. I did not have her cell phone with her. And I guess if it's an elevator in a private home. You don't have to have a hard landline in the way, you do in a commercial building. I don't know. Yeah. That makes sense, obviously, or she would have called for up sooner that makes sense and was probably, you know, one of those nineteen forties expensive, midtown redone apartment houses that are that are very nice. And yet they're not totally up to date. If that were me, I will be sitting in that elevator thinking will this serves you right elevator in your house. You pretentious be. That's what that's what I would think. I was getting a karmic punishment for having an out of air in my. I don't think it was in her house. I think it it's New York City's town. It's a private townhouse. It's a luxury townhouse. You're right. It's private I just pictured a small apartment. Now. Bilton in the fall. Forties. That's a private elevator. Right. I wonder who came and got her some friends came by. And you saw this there. I heard I read about it on my on my feet, and I would just along for you started losing it. Well, because I would not object to having a little bit of alone time. I'd be okay for the first few hours. But then I'd have to you know, I'm I'm like big on hydration. I'd have to p and then it would be like getting hungry and and two days two and a half days longtime. She was to hydrate. She's okay. She'll be fine. It could have bad a worse ending. If let's say she had a medical condition or what the lights were on in the thing. I don't know. I don't know. I know that if it's a commercial elevator. They have to have a hard line phone in case, there's an emergency. But I don't think that's true. It's private have you ever been somebody's house that had an elevator have. And it's it's like who do you think you are? That's why I think I would have karmic punishment. I've been on home tours. You know, they'll be like luxury home to this weekend at the such and such whatever I've been on home tours with elevators. Here's the thing. I took care of me when she was like six on one of these. Luxury home tours and one of the houses had an elevator in it. And she desperately wanted an elevator. But I'm like, sweetie. It's a two story house right this. I just you know, we have legs were were blessed with the ability to walk not everybody can. And so they should have whatever I couldn't do it Mary Nile when we are looking for houses almost nine years ago. I guess when we were getting married we went on, you know, the tour real estate agents on a tour, and you go to some places that you know, you can afford easily. And then you go to some places that you really the strat. It's a stretch. And one of them was the elevator house. It had three floors because it was built on a hill. And as soon as I saw that and the real estate agent was going on or not. And it's got an elevator is soon as I saw the here's here's what I what hit my mind. This is too much. And that thing's gonna break. That's just one more thing for me to fix calling the Otis company and. You know, when you're elevated breaks, it's got to be expensive. I when I went on that one home tour. That's what I thought too. If this breaks what a nightmare. But here's what I thought too. How can how can I the daughter of the meth cook who slept on the floor of a closet instead of in a bedroom when a bed? How can I raise two children who send their laundry down to me in an elevator? That's just not anything that would ever work for me. I know isn't it funny? How you at all you see things like that. And then you've got a almost visceral feeling about it because of where you came from. Because of what you what you struggled through that. It just seems wrong. Even though you could maybe afford it. Some people are just the opposite, though, they go, you know, what I slept on a closet, and I didn't mattress my kids will have an elevator. I just so who's right? And who's wrong? I think I don't think either one is right or wrong. I just think you're one or the. The other night. I went the other way, I was like, oh, no y'all gonna have mattresses and food and coats, but you will not have elevators in your house. We hit a laundry shoot. In one of the houses. We read the laundry was downstairs the kids. There was a closet upstairs, and you could open the closet, you could drop your laundry down, and it would land in the and it would land down where the little wasn't laundry room, but the laundry area was. And so during the period, we were there my kids were like five and seven something like that. They just thought you have dirty laundry. You just put it there and magically a fairy brings it, but right back in clean. So at one point we had to say you're going to have to start doing your own laundry because you can shoot it down there. But it clean itself. There aren't elves waiting down. Oh, there's. Harry potter. You know, somebody has to do this work. I don't know. I just I just could not I never looked at a house that like when I was in the market for house that had an elevator. I'd only ever seen them on home tours. Just can't even imagine what's cool though. It'd be different like, let's say like your mom lives with you. And she's totally infirm, you know, now, you're now, you're different categories. Totally different Geremia can take this there. That's exactly right. You know, what school though, have you ever lived in an apartment with a trash chute. No, I I was single and some of the women I was dating would say to take your trash out. I just wanna take your trash out. Trash chute at it's gone. And it goes right down to a big dumpster. It was pretty cool to get rid of it that way, you don't have to go outside. It's right around the corner. From your never part never learned in one of those Bill elected a lot. It's Bob and Sheri. It now get it now in itunes store or Google play kids. We've all done something that was moronic stupid just wrong. But when you do something that is really really embarrassingly idiotic is that a sign for what's coming down the road for you. Yes. Here's the example. Hope firefighters in England saved a boy the other day who got his head stuck in a toilet seat. So I ask you that's a big. It is a pig. Etiquette? Well, I mean, there are different size seats to could have been one of the smaller. Child's potty training toilet seat. It was because that's not what I was picturing. I can't imagine any like toilet seat where a kid would have a head big enough to get stuck in that toilet seat. It's gotta be a dream. Maybe maybe it was is is this a sign though. Yeah. It's a potty training seat. Why why would he want to put his head in there? See that's my question. Because it was there is that the answer. Okay. When you're like seventy eight years old, and you're looking at the posts on the stairway. And you're going my head might actually fit between those two banisters. I want to speak as the attorney for the defense of childhood children are natural scientists they're curious about the world, and they want to experiment, and sometimes the the question of will my head fit here can only be answered by putting your heads thickly, look, and to quote, the prophet Herm howler as he wants said, I can't believe you made it out of your teenagers. He really did. I understand what you all are saying. But there's let me throw a bouquet to Todd. There's a difference between putting your head between the stair spindles and putting it in the toilet. Would you not agree completely? Agreed. So is there at this kid's base a desire to do things that are ridiculous? Sleep both disgusting and stupid does is he the guy is this kid going to be the guy that jumps off of the barn hoping that he makes it into the pool I would say in response to that or the garage that it Johnny Knoxville is born not made. So this is what I'm doing is born made and she's getting is born made is little toilet ring man of future daredevil stunt performer, and Bob, I think you should retract the comment about jumping off of anything into a poll because that's how I spent most of my summers. What would you jump off? We jumped off the slide. We've jumped off the roof we've written our bikes off the roof into the pool. How how close was the pool to the roof? It was the leap about three feet three three and a half feet. We also used to take the the rafts and wet him down and slide across the pool surface into the pool. I mean, we we were well term would say you're just a bunch of idiots. Exactly, I can't believe you made it out of your teenage years. If I if I ever had a pool I and and I had kids it would be so far away from the garage roof for that reason. Well, you go you go away for the weekend, or you're you're out for the night, and they have a teenage party. And there's always that one Bubba that's going to say, you know, hold my beer. I always like one of my boozy daydreams as a kid one day. I'm getting out of here. And I'm going to go to college, and I'm gonna have a house with a pool, and then I had children, then it changed to I will never have a house with a pool will never have with the pool because I'm too were. I'm too much of a worrier too. Worried about drowning accidents to jumping off a roofs. Just. Yeah. I was pushed to get a pool once. We got it and the pushy never got into once the best. No, that's the worst isn't that just classic. But you predicted that would happen growing up. We used to sit out on the deck and watch the storms and their own in my head needs to say to my uncle, hey, Emory, grabbed that metal rods. Go stick it in the pool and see what happens. Again, these are born. AM? Watch this. He was. It's easy to listen. Alexa, Bob and Sheri on tune in. Okay. This is about Netflix and the movies. They've been in the news lately because they announced that their price hiking and some people started complaining about that. And how they're cutting the number of movies. They have they're cutting the movies they have and they're raising prices at net flicks. That is true. But there's more to the story, and I'm just going to read this story. Okay net. Flicks has about three thousand fewer movies in its streaming library than it did in two thousand and ten meanwhile, Amazon prime movie library is more than four and a half times bigger. But according to a new study most of their movies. Most of those movies are not very good. In fact, some of them are just plain bad. The study took the list of movies available on four streaming services and cross reference them with rotten tomatoes, run tomatoes. Of course is the it's a compilation of a lot of critics. Reviews of movies and very reliable. I think it's very reliable Hollywood hates it because a lot of films aren't seeing because of rotten tomatoes. And maybe they had some, you know, good qualities to them. But anyway, the study looked at all of them and to see how many were certified fresh. All right. So that's the term if it certified fresh good movie rod tomatoes calls movie certified fresh if they have at least seventy five percent favorable reviews. There's also a forty to eighty review minimum that must be met depending on whether the movie at a limited or wide release. So this got to be between forty and eighty critics and it has to get a seventy five net. Flicks percentage of good movies was not only higher than Amazon, but they had more than Amazon Hulu an HBO now combined. What's HBO now? I have I don't my server is fighting HBO. We don't have anything right now. Is there a difference between HBO and HBO? Now HBO isn't HBO now kind like HBO go like they're they're streaming platform. That's oh that's their on demand. Okay. Amazon was ranked dead last among the four services. Amazon Hulu HBO now. Here are the results. Net. Flicks three thousand eight hundred thirty nine movies five hundred ninety six were certified fresh that is fifteen point five percent, Hulu two thousand three hundred thirty six movies, total twenty two hundred twenty three certified fresh nine point six HBO now eight hundred fifteen movies thirty eight of which were certified fresh and Amazon prime seventeen thousand four hundred sixty one movies two hundred and thirty two which were certified fresh that's one point three percent. So Netflix has the best movies from what you just said. If you look at it that way. Yes. Yes. They do. It's actually about over double Amazon prime according to rotten tomatoes. Sometimes though, you just have a hankering for a really bad nineteen eighties horror movie like the book ins, and and if it wasn't for. Netflix Amazon prime where are you going to go to get the book? I know where would that movie live the rest of eternity, and it wouldn't it be wouldn't it be kind of awful for all of the really bad subpar movies to just disappear because aren't there times in your life? When what you want is the book ins or something often? I know what you mean. You know, it's amazing to me that so many movies get made that suck. Yeah. Do you know how expensive it is? You ever watched like the end of the movie, and they have the the credits. How did you see all of these companies and people you go holy cow. That was terrible movie. It's not doing very well. And look at all these people are making getting paid. I've seen some movies just in the past year in the theater that were awful. Yeah. That were absolutely awful that like I went and saw the remake of death wish with Bruce Willis, it makes the hills have eyes look like citizen. Kane can I ask? You why you went to see the because Kevin. I it. We have one night a week carrying me a dances really late. And so sometimes we go to a movie and the theaters near the dance studio, and we can only see what fits carry me is dance window so on that particular night death wish is what? But honestly, it's so awful that you're like now where they don't make movies like the hills have eyes for. I mean, it makes bad movies. Look good one of the good things about these services. In addition to the dogs, and I mean, Mary, and I have sat there in a Saturday night and spent forty five minutes trying to find something we both agreed upon you will find a movie that maybe you missed like the founder or spotlight. Exactly, it was in the theaters and you meant to see it. And I saw it. Away from. Flicks. Now, I watched it alone. You know, she was interested for about fifteen minutes. But then I I watched it alone. And and the one about the post well called the post. That's there. I could not get anyone to go to see the Halloween remake with Jamie Lee Curtis. That was just out. Yeah. Yeah. The people's movie critic liked it Kevin's like I wanna go to that. And the girls are like this. Sky and like all my mom friends or like before I go to see Hallowe'en. Let's go out and have wine. I ended up watching it on demand. And it was pretty good. Glad that I didn't cash in one of my movie nights on it for somebody who is at a certain point in your life. I think that having one in talking with friends kills movies more than anything else because you don't get out. Yeah. You're working, and you're with your responsibilities panel your kids. And so sometimes when you have a night out, you don't wanna sit and start screen. So that's the deal. It's going to cost you more for Netflix flicks. But you actually bottom line if you're looking at it probably have more of a chance to see something you want pound for pound based on what you the better movies are there. That's right spot. Cherry and stuff. You won't hear on the show the Bob and Sheri, odd cast on the Bob and Sheri app. Get it now in store or Google play. Believe who showed up. In my news feed that would be Victor Willis does that name ring any bells too. You know, that's the motorcycle cop from the village people. Oh. Why he was the lead singer? Yes him why Victor Willis pop up on my news feed while it's interesting. He gave an interview about the insane amount of money. He's made off of this song. No kidding. He said he wrote the song and a few hours. And he said when people ask me surprise, no. He said, I'm not surprised. In fact, I expect the song to make me a billion dollars before. It's. Put up. He was wrote the song. And he was the lead singer village actually has fifty percent of the copyright on all village. People music. For him. So he lives as sixty seven. Now he lives in San Diego with his wife. Karen? And I wonder if he did in the navy. Yes, he co wrote in the navy go west macho, man. But he made he made his first million overnight in nineteen seventy eight when YMCA was released, and he said he said, I have spent some money and not all of it has been smart. He said I used to walk around with like forty thousand dollars in my pocket every day, and he wants lost a ton of money send my worst financial decision was when I invest it in a badge Inari, gold mine didn't know was maj Inari. Said I learned from that that if it seems to be true, it is you know, when I was starting out in radio. I got a gig to introduce the village people was working for my my first full-time radio station and the village people were coming to town. And so they needed an MC, and it paid me. I think pay me a hundred and twenty five dollars to go out plug the radio station and then bring on the village people. So I thought. Yeah, darn right under twenty five dollars. I'm going I'm doing that. I would love to meet the village people. So there were eleven thousand people in the audience, that's is packed. And I brought it lays down the village people and out they come. And I thought I'm going to I'm going to stay backstage a little bit off of the side of the station. Gonna watch watch what this act is. Because there's a lot of rumors going around that they you know, were not really singers. They were models, and then all the singer, he's the real singer. But I have to tell you not all of them were. So they're all trust up in different costumes. There's the Indian guy the native American guy. There's the construe. Action worker. I am printed on. He's the cop. They have all these different male personas. But what the public didn't know is that a couple of the guys their microphones were dead. They weren't hooked up. They just were mouthing the words and write off stage were two guys two African American that we're singing the harmonies with microphones that were doing the actual harmony singing. Yeah. Let me give y'all something to think about so Victor Willis said that he went through a few drafts of YMCA took about half a day the final draft of the song took him ten minutes to write and it has been earning him millions of dollars consistently for the past forty years. Yeah. I can see how that's the case not just from radio play. But it's also played like in football stadiums. And you they have to pay your when you play it in a public place. You have got to pay royalties for that. Here's to other. Fun facts about Victor, his daddy was a Baptist minister. And he sued the record companies and his management, and he won in two thousand twelve in a ruling that will go down in history. As changing the game for American songwriters artists getting them out of long. Unfavorable punitive contracts with record labels is that ROY. The game for everybody. Who said I'm gonna make my first billion off this song. You know, what is almost the movie in? So yes. You could make I would watch. Let's do it together.

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ATR #154  2019 Vancouver Badass Film Festival, Pet Sematary

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ATR #154 2019 Vancouver Badass Film Festival, Pet Sematary

"Hello, everybody. And welcome back to the about to review podcast here to amplify diverse voices in media Aymer host as always that guy named John make sure to subscribe rate and review the podcast on your podcast platform of choice. It is listed everywhere. Apple podcast, Google play Stitcher Alexa, via tune in. And you can also stream the episodes directly from the website about Tribu dot com. Which is where you will find links to the show notes and guests while you're on the website. You can click the support tab where there is a direct pay pal link. If you're feeling generous, there's also linked to an Amazon wishlist in the episode description. If you wanna go that route make sure to follow the podcast on social media at about review, Facebook, Twitter and Instagram and also YouTube dot com slash about to review. All right on this week's episode. I am so Lou on this one because I just got back from Vancouver. British Columbia my home away from. When it comes to covering festival holes because I attended the Vancouver bad ass film festival. So that is what this episode is going to be all about my coverage of their. I'm going to talk about my favorites from each of the three days and the ones that kind of stood out for me. And my coverage of the Vancouver battle film festival was made possible by David Abu Safi, the co creator of the Vancouver battles film festival. Who is also the head honcho at Jenner Titi productions which they Vancouver based financing and production company that makes it happen for budget genre film, their tagline is Jenner Tiffany productions make it happen. He also heads dark side releasing which is also based in Vancouver and is an international distribution company. Specializing in wild genre films dark side releasing wild genre films, which is exactly what I. Spent all weekend watching so thank you so much for your support and sponsorship, David and Jenner Tiffany productions and dark side, releasing before we get into all Vancouver bad ass film festival coverage we need to go to the original theme song created by Damian. Randall of ill-mannered media. That's all go to the lab. Let's all go to the. Let's all go to. Sound? At the top of the show. Just like on every episode. I will go over a couple of geek, news items. And then I will be reviewing a film that is inferior or will be in theaters this weekend. And this is a film definitely fit right into the John wrote that I spent all weekend watching that review will be for pet cemetery. So that will be coming up in just a couple minutes. But first the geek, news items, a big event in the world of theaters took place recently, and that is cinema. Con cinema. Con is not like any other convention or gathering cinema. Con is basically just four theater owners essentially for the studios to tell them. Hey, folks, relax. People are still going to go to the theater, we promise Netflix is not going to destroy cinema as we know it. And then of course, the theater owners. You know side give a big side relief and then continue to trash net flicks. At almost every opportunity they have, but the thing cinema con that is also different is they will show different types of trailers and different kind of pieces of films that they're going to be working on because the studios. This is not showing trailers to fans who are going to love everything anybody who has ever been any comic on a studio can get up there and be like and now dead pool and people freak out and now colossus people freak out cinema. Con beater theater owners. So in companies are like, hey, this is our docket for the next five years. Here. It is like this. It is they don't really need to sell them on the on the geeky on the nerdiness. They need to sell them on the business side of things on the financial side of things. So the different spin. But we always get little interesting things from cinema con every year. So this year one of the things that Disney announced is that they plan to continue the Alleyen and planet of the apes franchises. And that gets me a little bit worried mainly because with Alan our love, the I two then it went off the rails, then premier Theus, then we got all of the other ones like the last eight million we God or the last alien movie. We got is a prequel that still does not explain anything as a prequel should. So where they plan on going with this. I have no idea it truly. I mean isn't going to be another prequel. To set up the movie that where they know exist. Is it going to be a sequel to the movies that already took place in the far-flung future of the alien films where he saw the alien vs predator ones? Get thrown in the mix somewhere who knows where I have no idea what to expect with these alien movies. But I am a sucker for alien. And I I like the concepts of those movies sometimes more than the film's itself. So who knows kind of what they plan on doing. But that was part of it is that they're going to be moving forward in one way or another. Now, the planet of the apes announcement that actually makes a lot of sense because three movies that we have had so far varying slightly in. How should I say not necessarily quality? But in in kind of tone and pacing the third one was incredible. And it really it just it was so motion. You never really had those moments where it was like, oh, this is purely a CGI character that I'm not really connected to I felt connected to all of the CJ characters in a very deep sense. So that was just incredible. Did the movie make sense not really did it explain things in a way that could lead into the planet of the apes franchise films, Charlton Heston style ones that we grew up watching. Yes, it does kind of set the tone and lays out there track for those movies. So at least that one when they made the announcement. It was like, okay. Do I need to see another planet of the? Movie set in a future, they are the dominant species joining to see it. No will I see it. Absolutely. Especially if it is at the quality that we have seen recently. So very interesting news on that front. One of the other things that was announced at cinema con there. This is a very cinema. Con heavy. Geek news section. So for those people who follows Makonde this just a refresher. But basically Terminator dark fate. Another franchise that has varying degrees of quality and varying degrees of confusion in the sense where some of them you just kind of go along with it. And you're like shirt, this is not making complete sense. But at least I'm here for the ride other ones are just a mess from nearly beginning to end, but Terminator dark fate people. Got to see some footage from it. They put up some new. Screen shots and action shots of some of the characters in it. Now, this is the return to form as it were. So James Cameron is producing the movie, which is which is a good start. Because at one point. He was like Terminator salvation is the terminated movie that I wanted yet that was before he saw the movie, and then when people ask them about it later, his tone kind of changed a little bit. But this is basically a sequel direct sequel to Terminator two ignoring Selvi Shen ignoring Genesis, just doing a straight sequel. So again, interesting choice of this is going to be directed by Tim Miller from dead pool, and so many other things so that has excited because we obviously know that Tim Miller can do action with some humor. But also just a solid story. With this. This is going to be just an action heavy movie. And it seems like the gang is back together. So Linda Hamilton is back Arnold his back. It looks solid. I mean, again looks all none of us are this or some people did I did not attend mccown. So I did not see the footage. But there were a lot of Twitter reaction, the people who were there watching the footage as it was going on. And they were impressed. So this movie are not even sure when it comes out. I think next year. I should have looked. But oh November. I oh, yeah. So this year. So we will see in just a few months if they have managed to pull off a Terminator movie that is not insane by insane. I mean bad so that should be interesting. But I'm excited to see that because I may sucker for Terminator one and two the other one's not so much. So yeah, November first is Terminator Terminator dark fate. One of the other big things that came out of cinema. Khan was the joker teaser trailer. They told us a teaser trailer when it was like, this is a three minute trailer. So I'm not sure what two and a half minutes like do trailers need to be four minutes for the count as a full trailer. I do not know. But normally if they say teaser trailer like avengers has done this time and time again, it will be like thirty maybe sixty seconds show. You. A couple of scenes and then be out. This is two and a half minutes. And it kind of follows or not follow that kind of tells us what the story is going to be at least some of the the big beats in it walking Phoenix looks super creepy. And this looks like he lost a ton of weight. And the earlier pictures that we saw when he was in his full kind of suit and get up in this nineteen seventy style. We never really saw kind of what his body looked like and how that would be playing to his character in this. I mean there are scenes where he just he looks emaciated through the he has moving and kind of just contorted a shoulder blades. Just really unnerve ING and so in this trailer Hennessy the progression from him being assigned. Spinner in clown makeup in kidding beaten up by some some darned youths, and then we see his transition whether or not, you know. A certain character. Which actually no character is not gonna be in this. What am I talking about? This is a prequel for what we have seen at least this is a prequel so Batman as far as we know is not going to be in this Boise is kind of transition from something happening in his life that was detrimental to then he becomes crazy. Now, some people are saying that doing joker movie, I'm in the camp of not really because of thing that makes joker so appealing in the comic book for the past eighty years is he has never had one definitive origin only a few characters and comic books can say that even with wolverine. They finally gave him an origin story in like two thousand four in the store on origin. And then they kind of made that canon. They made it into the thing. It was not just an else world style story. The joker has had a couple different origins. Over the years. We see in the killing joke, we see one in other places. But there has never been a definitive. This is where he started. This is what happened. This is where he is now. So with this. I mean, they're pulling at some interesting concept. Interesting ideas, I think with time period being in the approximate seventies and Thomas Wayne still being alive, if this is going to tie into anything that is going to be an interesting jump, and who knows if a will to anything I still struggle with DC. And if they have a plan at all or if they're just going to do off-shoot movies, so walking Phoenix, though, he looks super creepy. And I I'm down for this movie. And Todd Phillips is directing it. So very interested to see what happens there, and then another big casting news. This is something that has been in the works for a very long time. But now it actually looks like it is happening. Cowboy bebop a live action cowboy bebop based on the amazing anime is is going to be happening. And the enemy was actually only it was like twenty six episodes. Which would when you compare legendary anime? This is always up there in conversation and for only a short period of time as far as episodes, and when it was on that is pretty incredible. So there have been talks about a live action cowboy bebop movie for a longtime counter Reeves is going to play spike Spiegel at one point that would have been interesting because he physically looks the part his hair's kind of all over the place. He is a martial artist. I I would be interested, but the fish Fishawy cast, the main four people so John show is actually going to be spike Spiegel Mustafa Shakir. Here is in this Daniel Pineda, an Alex Hassell. So that is an interesting cast first of all I love the diversity in that. Staffers cure as jet black who is kind of huge intergalactic cop who is always on the right side or was at one point. And then something happened, and then that made him turn into a bounty hunter. So that is interesting up Anita is favouring Tyne and hassle is vicious who was basically the bane and haggen est over the series of spikes, former partner how that plays in that should be interesting. But the main thing that I'm interested in for this movie or we'll actually a couple of things one. On a serious note. They have to bring in the music Yokado did the music for all of the episodes with this incredible jazz beats throughout the entirety of the show in the intro during the episode these incredible just blue note, why not bring her back for the movie. I think that would be amazing it would fit perfectly. I think for a lot of people. The visuals are going to sell them. But if we hear those tones, if we are the music that we remember from watching this back in things like. It was like to NAMI and adult swim I launched so like early two thousand by the time a lot of us got to see these. If they hit us with the music, I can give a little bit of leeway in the visuals because this is going to be tough to match and to have it really make sense in a in a physical world in a live action world. But if they give me the music, and if you O'Connor is able to come back and do the music that would be incredible my second thing, and this is just a dream. This is just I'm just putting this out there in the universe. So one of the things that is fascinating about the cowb- universe. Is. It is team of bounty hunters who watch this program called big shots. The was the program hosted by pungent, Judy. These do over the top cowboy personas who announced the bounties are. And how much they are. And where the last where where you know, you saw the person than last. Here's the thing. That I'm putting out the universe. One of the characters punch in big shots is a black cowboy big mustache over the top. There's a black actor in Hollywood who has played a cowboy before before. That would be perfect. Yes. I am talking about Laurence Fishburne as cowboy Curtis from peewee Herman. Now, am I fan of peewee Herman? No, do I lose listeners every time. I say that I'm not a fan of peewee Herman. Yes. But cowboy Curtis is basically punch from big shots. I think that would be amazing Laurence Fishburne like he has at the point of his career. He can do anything. He wants like he is just such a legend. I think this would just be really fun character. I mean, they're they're never going to do that. It would just be ridiculous. But they'll just be kind of fun. So yeah. But the cowboy bebop live cast was announced there will be linked to all of these articles in the description of the episode below if you want to click on that and learn more. Okay. So that wraps it up for the geek news now under the first episode. I episode while known of the first review of this episode and that is for pet cemetery. The new film directed by Kevin Cole and Dennis wood Meyer. This is based obviously off of the book that even king wrote in nineteen eighty three way back in nineteen eighty three. And of course, they had the film version the original film, I should say in nineteen eighty nine directed by Mary Lambert. Now, this new film takes a lot of the beats from the original movie and from obviously the book as well. But it takes some big differences as well. So it stars Jason Clark, Amy Siamese, John Lithgow, Gitane Lawrence, and Hugo Lavoro as gauge even though one of the big differences. In this is gauge is not really in this very much. They're actually times when I forgot he was in at all like there would be a good twenty minute chunk twenty five minute chunk. Just do not see gauge addle. So that of course, the difference to anybody who has seen the original nineteen eighty nine movie entered the book because in the book gauge, unfortunately gets hit by a truck and dies the dad the loving dad who wants to kind of bring that he does not actually want to bring him back. He misses him takes him to this place. This magical, mystical place turns out gauge comes back. But it is not the gauge they knew, duh. Why would you think that bring something back from the dead? No matter what is going to work. So in this movie gauge is not the one who that happens to we do see a scene where rethink it might happen. Gauge kind of goes running out to the street. But instead Ellie the daughter is the one who gets hit. So this is something where again, the movie came out in eighty nine the book eighty three I still am not going to go into too many spoilers for this film. Put again, if you know the story, you know, where this is going. So Elliott's hit John Lithgow as the the old neighbor, old wise neighbor takes into this mystical magical place, and he says barrier to the daughter, and blah, blah, blah. So while this actually after the cat comes back. And after seeing the cat comeback after it is basically a devil cat. Why? Why would you think even your most grief-stricken moment? Sure. My daughter will be find the cat came back demon. But that would not happen to my daughter, surely not spoiler alert. Of course, it does. Of course, it does. So in the in this kind of journey that we see the parents going through Jason Clark's character Lewis has a very interesting kind of flashbacks everything to a student that he saw die on the operating table. And this is very very early on in the movie, but he sees that character appear multiple times through the movie as kind of driving force that is pulling him to the supernatural area. And yet it is also warning him against the area which. Is a little bit confusing. But at certain points where we see Jason Clark in going down to the base Bank. The hear something creepy. He turned around the cat is there, and when it hisses at the darkness and runs away first of all a normal cat does that you should probably take that as a sign as the whatever is down there in the basement, you do not want to mess with. If this is a debrincat who has been brought back from the dead who his the darkness runs away. You should probably leave that area. We should probably the room. You should probably leave that house. You should leave the state getaway from whatever. The demon cat was scared of because it come on just use your commonsense. And that is something in horror films that we often I often talk about, you know, my guests often talk about you need any people in scary movies to make dumb choices, and they do repeatedly in this one thing that I liked about this film, though. Oh is it built up the tension leading to the jump scare? It did not rely on it completely a film that did, you know in recent memory would be the none from last year a terrible movie. Because all it was doing was jump scare after jump scare after jump scare this at least made you feel like it was leading to that. But you're not sure win that type of tension at a different layer. Because if you're watching something in the music starts swelling, the music cuts out, you know, the jump is going to happen. This did a good job almost like a little bit of misdirect. We're kind of build and build and build, and you're just not sure when it was coming, and they absolutely got me with with one of them, and it has to do with a famous scene that was in the original movie. And actually, if you go if you you're in the Seattle area and go to mow pop in the horror exhibit, you see a model of foot and won't. Calf and foot with the achilles tendon cut that happened in the original that happened in this one. But the way they did it absolutely got me because it built to it. And you're like out is going to happen. It's going to happen. Something happens. And you're like, oh, wait it actually did not take the easy way out cut ten seconds later. It happened. Absolutely. Got me. So that was that was hard. One other thing that was interesting. I will say is the portrayal of should hey Lawrence as Ellie. I really liked wind. She became or not when she became as she was becoming I should say more and more possessed like for a young actress, she gets really cool choice just with her body movements and just with some different contortions. So that was really cool Jason Clark's Austrailia accent definitely slipped a few times here and there, but overall he was pretty good Amy ceim at as Rachel she. She was good. And she was kind of scared of Jacob seeing visions of her sister. And there's a whole back story behind that. I there was not really enough kind of connective tissue. I feel like between the two of them between the two adults the parents, so. So that was just kind of a weird thing to watch John Lithgow? He was great in. This very frequently is great in this. He makes dumb choices. But again, this a horror movie people do that all the time. It was shot. Really? Well, I liked a lot of the overhead shots and just how it would kind of seamlessly transition from almost a drone style shot, but it's down and lead right into a ground shot. So I doubt that they did that with the drone there's probably some clever editing in there. But I just I was really pointed. It did it a couple times. So good for them on that. Overall, four a for a scary movie. This was definitely really bloody and gory. But I'm not really sure how scary it was if that makes sense, so it is a horror movie, but it is I think mainly a horror movie because of the amount of blood that we see, but this is still kind of a thriller to me their questions ago unanswered, we see bunch of creepy little kids that you've seen the trailer leading to the pet cemetery. We never really get some background on them. And if they know what they're doing or if they know about what is behind the pet cemetery. But none of that is really consequential to the film itself. So with that being said kind of a breakdown of that I liked the tone. I liked the camera angles. The score was really nice because again built to that jump scare. But yeah, the the connection between the family members. I guess was not always apparent. So if this is your first time listening to the about your view podcast, first of all, welcome. Thank you for listening. The rating system for this podcast. There are only three choices. No letter grades. No stars the three choices are good bad or ugly. A good film something that you would come out of the theater and recommend wanna talk about with your friends. A bad film is not something that you regretted sitting in a theater for two hours for but it just not really connect to you. And made you wanna talk about it. Ugly is avoid at all costs pet. Cemetery is an interesting one. This is not a film that I think I will ever go back to it is not something where those unanswered questions. Hooked me enough to make me wanna see the second time. The performances were were good in it. I'd really liked Ellie like. Detaille Lawrence did a great job as that character. But unfortunately, I kinda gotta give this a bad. I think it just it did not connect on enough of the parts and enough of the emotion. So I liked the ending. The ending was definitely a unique twist just kind of on the mythology. Those a little bit of Quentin Tarantino style filmmaking from the beginning to the end. That was interesting. So the worsen cool choices. But overall. Yeah, this is not something that I want to go back to the other thing is I have no connection to the original a lot of my friends that I was talking about in Philo critics. They're like, oh, I love the original scared me so much. I love this. And this and this I have no connection they original. I remember it vaguely. But that was it does not even that. I disliked it because I have so much love for the original. It just did not really connect. With me so pet cemetery directed by Kevin. In coach and Dennis wood Meyer gets a bad now on to the film festival that I spent this past weekend in a pack the four which was the Vancouver bats film festival. This is the fifth year that the Vancouver battles film festival has been going on. There were eight feature thing feature length films forty six short films over kind of two and a half days. Like, it was a packed two days that I was in the theater with and seeing these films. What I will be doing actually on top of doing my breakdown episode, which is what you are listening to there will be an of about to interview also coming out probably on the same day as this episode because I was able to sit down with some of the filmmakers this weekend. So I talked to Dave Gilbert who is the writer and co or co writer and director of Poulter heist Matt pop and Roberto lonzo's from Lucia and they're talked to a. Of people from the closing night film, which was Amy. So I spoke to rusting Nixon and James Clayton who are the writer director and producer. And then the actors Phil Granger Havana guppy Deb's Howard and Bonnie, hey, so I will be cutting all of those together into an episode of about interview, which will be coming up soon. So thank you to all of the people who may time to sit down with me, this took place at Tudor venues the first couple nights for the vanity theater, which again is my home away from home. I feel very comfortable in that theater. I am. They're very frequently shuttled to Francis. Who runs the place in the evenings? She always amazing helped male with my random requests here. And they're so big shadow to her. So that I was able to set up a little recording studio in the corner by fireplace and with couches and chairs I'm fortunate to be able to do that at certain venues, the closing night film, was you said a. Different. And. Different location at the Rio theater, which is ran by Rachel FOX, whose amazing there is not really a place where we kind of get away. So I did every intrepid podcast interviewer does I found a stairwell? And that was where I made my recording studio. So it was between the hitter and the lobby. So those interviews with the Amy team, especially the Amy I call them team. They are team team of filmmakers. Those those interviews definitely there will be a little bit of audio difference between those and the earlier ones, but it was great. I mean, the fact that these filmmakers are just met. I was like, hey want to be interviewed in the stairwell. Come on down. We can have a chat. They all. Did they all thought it was great? So I will be putting those up again probably the same day. This episode drops now to the films themselves or to the days themselves. So the first day on Friday night that was a hard Brexit. Double. Feature. So there's an opening party with some magic tricks. That was nice, and it was hosted by two vampires, or at least one vampire and one possibly vampire possibly Franken. Stein lady. I'm not quite sure, but they were there during the day. So it was impressive. There's some light coming in. And they were not affected. So good for them. That was gidget grave digger and Sean Covington or Kevin. Yes, Sean, Kevin. So those cool there's some audience participation in this magic show. Definitely put you in the mood to see a film festival. Unlike most film festivals you will see I have been to horror film festivals before I'm a sponsor for local on the Seattle forty hour horror film project, but having some magicians in full makeup full costume in these characters that they created that was really cool and gave the audience really time to like, oh, this is what we were getting ready for. I'm on board. So definitely good job gidget and Sean for doing that. So there were couple of shorts before each of the feature films that were played on Friday. So the short before Poulter heist where parlor tricks and young blood parlor tricks, of course, starred gidget grave-digger John Covington, and that that was a black and white seance short film is really funny. And again, it kind of set the tone for what we're about to see for the weekend. Youngblood also set the tone in that that one was there is kind of a Bank robbery mishap, and then there's a kid involved, but the boss wants the money, and that type of dynamic where what are we gonna do? We have this kid now there's money that needs to be paid to this person. How are we going to get out of this mess? So it was nice that there's kind of a comedic horror short. And then a gangster issue short in there as well. Because there they're definitely a few of the films that had that bent to them or that bend to them. So those lettuce into Poulter heist Poulter, heist is the first feature film that kicked off the festival. So it's directed by David Gill Bank and co written by David gilding and Jemma head. So this movie again blend blended, the comedy the horror the possession that we would be seeing throughout the festival weekend. So this basically takes too low level gangsters who make the unfortunate accident of killing somebody in their organization who hasn't formation about where money is stored that the boss. Desperately wants. So yet that that is not good for them. When the boss comes calling looking for the money, and they're like, oh, but he hasn't and they're like, right? How can we get this? So they end up going to a psychic medium played by Joe Moseley who she was phenomenal. I talked about this in my capsule review, you can see on Instagram and Facebook and Twitter, but she has this transformative performance where she is just as regular kind of hometown, psychic medium. And now these two gangster Chau-ping like we need to talk to our dead, quote, unquote, friend, quote, unquote, acquaintance, quote, unquote worker because he knows where the money is. And we may or may not have killed him in the process, but we need your help to get in contact with him and figure it where it is. So they do the sand. So do the ritual and he does come. Back. You know, at least well, yes, he possesses. The body of Alice of Joe Moseley's character, the psychic medium from their hilarity ensues. But also all of the characters have to make some really difficult choices. So sit Akbar. Ali and Jamie symbol are the two gangsters who are forced with now this personification of the person they just killed and they're trying to trust him because they recognize like, okay. Yeah. We killed you. Sorry about that. We still need the money for crazy boss Uday play by push bender Chani. Please help us because we really don't deal with him. He likes to hit people. Cricket bats, a lot in this movie. So that was definitely unique. So as they go through this kind of ragtag adventure of trying to piece together where this money is how they get out of the situation. This is just this is really well done. So there's a lot to like in this film the comedic elements were spot on. So I appreciated that and Joe Mosey like she was she was tremendous the thing that I liked as much if not more than Moseley's performance was the music the musical done by Umberto while Dino who he crushed it like I really liked that and dip you'll Bank, and I were actually able to talk about him quite a bit in the interview that you will hear soon so Poulter, heist, really fun film. And definitely a great way to kick off the festival. So that was followed by two more short films before the next feature the two short films that went before perfect skin was called skin deep and read MU. Moon skin. Deep was terrifying. And grotesque basically old lady who runs a bakery kind of starts killing people and their croissants involved. And then she starts peeling away her own skilled her own skin to reveal that she is this younger person. So we're led to believe she has to kill them then revert to her younger shape. Super creepy and weird the physical effects were great when it came to her actually peeling her face away, really weird. And again, a lot of people the end of this. They were talking to the filmmakers in this QNA. And they're like I will never look at a croissant the same again because you see blood on them you see skin on them. Yeah. It was pretty intense and then red moon, which is this really short film about kind of. Well, we don't find out in the film, but we talked about it in the after this alien presence this alien possibly invasion that one of the characters is then now a part of as you start hearing voices of people that should not be there and situations where there should not be what he is looking at so really cool kind of visual effects with this one as far as the interesting camera choices, so. So that was red moon and skin deep that lead into perfect skin. Perfect skin was directed by Kevin chicken and written by Kevin chicken and Dusen Tomac. This is one this is the film that stuck with me long after seeing it. So this is basically if you think of the cell with Jennifer Lopez and Vincent off Rio stick with me. We'll get there. Our takes the kidnap elements of a movie like that, it takes the physical mutilation of the body and body modification parts of that and grounded in reality. So take with fantasy elements take away the traveling into somebody's mind elements and just focus on what if a person kidnapped somebody held them against their will and started modifying of their body. That is terrifying. Because again, it is not the monsters in the closet. It is not the aliens and space. It is a here is a man play by Richard Clarke characters name is Bob who is so charming. And so just maliciously charming in the sense where he is the type of person who can kind of get whatever he wants and to as he starts talking to Caccia play by Natalia who does it going to be tough starting to Natalia cassette Custos? Woah. Nope. That is not right. Costra that possibly could be at. I'm sorry, Natalie. My polish is not good as you can hear. So he starts kind of hitting it off with her. And you just you see this charm in Richard Blakey is tattoo artist. And so, you know, being with these younger ladies that he has tattooed or wants to tattoo, it just kind of make sense. And you're like, okay. This is just a charming older guy. No, no. He is evil. He is very very evil. And so once he kidnaps the Talia or Caccia play by Natalia and start to change her body and really start to mess with her mind. Because I mean, she is captive. Nobody is coming after her, and he is just transforming her body into what he believes is the perfect canvas into the perfect piece of art that he wants to create. It is unnerved ING and Talia gist. She knocks out of the park when it comes to her physical performance as she is, you know, being tortured in a sense. And you see the way that it is affecting her mental state her physical state there times in which she kind of resigns herself to it. They're times new see this resiliency that is just infectious just this determination. That is incredible Richard brake stays crazy through the entire movie. But man is he charming even while? He is completely crazy. Jo woodcock is also in this is plays Lucy who has cut his, you know, kind of really good friend and flatmate. She is the one who then starts to really worry when she is not able to get a hold of cotton. She goes on this mission, basically to try and figure out what is happening like where her friend is what what Bob is up to so through that through that kind of lens of Lucy. We get a different perspective of what is going on. Because Bob is pulling all the strings some of them literal. Some of them are chained and some of them are wires. But he is pulling all the strings with multiple people with Caccia with Lucy with other characters in the film that we see him interact with. This is just this is a game. This is a sick and twisted game for him. Tremendous visual. Work that they did in this. There is a I think you see part of an a trailer. But you see a full suspension in this movie body modification suspension with hooks everybody in the theater, and I was luckily for this when I was sitting up in the balcony because I can take note that they're not bothering anybody. Everybody in the theater that I could see down below just cringed just like some tumble turned away. Some people have physical reaction in their chair, you succeeded as a filmmaker if you can have a film that impacts people in a physical way like that. So this will this was an incredible film. So perfect skin written directed by Kevin chicken and to Kevin chicken and Dussen Tomac. I'm not going to be giving all of these films. Good bad or ugly because there are a lot of films to get through. But also at a film festival. It is just different. Type of of vibe. So yeah. So if you're looking for a rating of all of these I'm not gonna do that on the episode hit me up on social media or send me an Email about review at g mail dot com. And I can maybe give it to you. Then. Yes, I was opening night. Those four short films and two feature length films day to was packed so day-to had multiple short films. There's actually an international shorts block where there were how many were there. I three six nine while like fifteen I think short films some of these. I mean, they ranged from one minute films about two minute films to thirty minute film. I think is the longest short film that was during this weekend. So from one minute thirty minutes, there's just a ton of righty of short films. So what I will do with the short film, screening blocks. Is that one I have picked out an honorable. Dimension. And then a favorite from the block from each of those blocks. And then at the end of the episode, I'm wrapping this up, then it will give my favorite feature of the festival. So the four PM international shorts on Saturday. There were ton of them. I can't go through all of them that would be menace, but I will highlight a couple so my honorable mention for the international shorts. This is actually I did not know that this is going to be I thought it was going to be short film, but it was essentially a music video slash experimental. Film called free dream from the UK or the full title is freak dream. Don't wanna be that. Which I think is the name of the song from the band freak dream. This video is a trip. It basically takes the animation style from the old like Monty python and the holy or Monty python's flying circus that. Style or have like a painting, and then the job would kind of move or the is would move, but it was not like this fully animated image. It takes that. And then just makes it weird and super twisted where as you would see this image of a person with either boils on their face or a growth or something like that. And it would split open. But behind it would be these crazy visualizations with either like an audio spectrum behind it or just some flashing lights and colors all while having the song playing the background. So this is interesting that it was essentially just a music video that as part of this dome festival mainly because of the way the tone is of the song and of the the video. So it's really interesting that was freak- dream from the UK. I liked that it was just super weird and out there, but my favorite. From the four pm block of international shorts on Saturday was Ludar from Australia. Does actually so I was like picking this as my favorite that day was writing stuff down. And then when I saw the guys at QA, I was like, I gotta talk to those guys. So definitely look forward to that interview with not pop and Roberta lunches bail Lucho. Her is a story of a young man who basically it is about identity. You know, he's trying to figure out his place in things, and it reminded me of a lot of personal experiences that I have gone through in the sense of either whether it is a code switching type of thing we have to be one version of yourself with certain people. And so he is a Canadian Mexican character where he almost has to rely on other people in the film to hell him about Mexican culture. One point troop Akaba is mentioned, and he's asking this girl that he's he was like, wait. What is that? You know? So he is still learning about himself his culture, while also being kind of having his culture thrust upon him by his past in the sense of his grandpa gives him this mask, which makes him transform into a large Lucia door. So this was hilarious really well choreographed as far as the stunts, but really it connected with me on a personal level when it comes to that identity when it comes to trying to figure out who you really are is that the person you are with when you're with your family like his character is when his Grandpa's just like, no like, we only speak Spanish in this house, speak Spanish, when you're with me is it that type of thing, or is it when you're with your friend, your different person. And so a really looking forward to what they do with this concept and how they move it. Forward their talks series and things like that. So I'm excited to see where that goes. So that was Luder from Australia as my favorite from the first block the second block. So whereas the first one was the world shorts. The second block was the North American shorts. There were like ten or eleven in this block as well again ranging from very short to this had the thirty minute short in it as well. So my honorable mention for this one is actually kind of tied in with my my favorite in this block in that they share some of the things that I liked. Honorable mention is the most interesting man in show business from LA. This is this kind of digs the mystery angle. Like, Stig from top gear who only certain group of my out into going into that is we take this kind of mystery figure in this motorcycle helmet. And you're the voice over being like he does this in this. For the production and all that. And they basically bring him in to do the stunts. So this great fight choreography from what we get to see really clever way of filming that as well. And then in the end, we could see this stunt, man. Do some really cool stuff on a motorcycle? This is short. It was funny. And I liked the stunts that I was able to to see in the southern most interesting man in show business from LA. Honorable mention my favorite though from the North American block is five minute rush from Canada. Now, the film is called five minute rush. It isn't a short program. It is thirty minutes long. So it is almost like that that inbetween time like they had a big budget for this. So part of it is like with that budget. You stretch this another like, fifteen minutes and have it around feature length film. It is that weird balance, but five minute rush is basically a revenge tale or becomes a revenge tale, it has like five minute coked out fight sequence at the end that sold me right away like everything leading up to that. Like it was good really well acted. But as soon as it got into the fight choreography in this warehouse fight scene. I was just I was so on board. I was so invested and who just fun because you see them going through some great fight choreography. But then in this warehouse where on those of coq everywhere he hits a character face with one. Of course that gets into his face as well. So then you are fighting physically fighting and finding your own mental state as you're going through this. But phenomenal fight choreography. Well, acted and thirty minutes. It was interesting. Yeah. I the only thing that it. Doesn't even a negative. I wonder if you either trimmed down a little bit more to like more of a traditional short film or extend it because if you have a solid budget like these folks did, and you have a group of people that seem to work really well together push it a little bit. You know, do close that feature length film bass a five minute rush from Canada huge fan of that one. And then there were two features on Saturday as well a mutt. Negra or an English the Black Forest, this is from Brazil. So this film was directed by Rodrigo Arago. I might have messed that up. Also, my Portuguese is very rusty. So this one is a Brazilian and indigenous Brazilian tale of this, you know, small village which happens to then become almost like the evil dead in the last twenty minutes of this movie there. Has possession. There's witchcraft there is paganism. There's cultish things or demons similar to pet cemetery. Similar to other films at the festival if you make a deal with the devil or a devil or a demon ten times out of ten it is not going to work out in your favor. So here's the thing for my dear listeners trying to make a deal with the devil unless you fully resigned yourself to not working out for you. So in a Montenegro this character, you know, she unfortunately, loses her boyfriend or not I mean, he gets killed. It was not like he went down to the storing lost. So her boyfriend is killed right in front of her. She then has the great idea. The totally logical idea to pet cemetery to bring him back. What could be the harm? Here's the thing. Magic always has a price the price is normally not worth whatever it was. You're planning on. Doing. So during the course of her learning, you know, this dark magic learning these pagan rituals, she then is fighting zombies. She then is fighting. Other creature? She is then welcoming a demon into the world and kind of being like, yeah. I just need you to kill some people. But you were just gonna kill them. Right. Like, nobody else that would just be crazy. So yeah, that does not go well for her or the world potentially. So I really dug this one because I had not seen kind of that indigenous Brazilian take on this kind of mysticism before. So that was really cool. I liked that it was shot in the forest kind of in the village, you know, in and around the small village gave an intimacy of film making those just really unique because it felt like a lived in part of the forest everything felt organic it was not. You know, a studio coming into force and setting up things and making it feel like production. This just felt thentihpei at that often testy really helped sell the story, and the story is bonkers like last twenty minutes of this almost like evil to to level of terrifying. Yet kind of funny yet, still terrifying. So yeah. Montenegro slash the Black Forest. Very cool film. And yeah, I dug that quite a bit the other film that was shown on Saturday night dealer feature film, though, shown on Saturday night was Amazon hot box. Now invalid hot dogs is an instead in my mic capsule review of this. If you thought the kind of women prisons lash women in cages Pam Grier driven exploitation films are no longer being made. Ho, boy, are you wrong. Example on hot hotdog is exactly that you can actually find there. There's a box set of three movies called the women in cages collection, by pain Greer. This is basically what those films are which was seventy style exploitation women in prison movies, where of course, there is a a warden who is all creepy. Of course, there is a leader. Among these female prisoners who does whatever she wants and get whatever she wants and takes whatever she wants. And of course, there are some bees. Wait. No. That was not in the seventies ones. That was in this one as well as he also have an over the top villain Inga von Krupp played by L E church. Tristen risk plays vowel. And she is kind of that not. She is kind of. She is the leader of these prisoners. She has been the longest she gets whatever she wants this movie is so out there, and so many different ways. And it takes it takes what that seventies kind of wrong. Exploitation romp into genre. You know that also has these ambi- that we get at the end. And we never really understand where they came from where never meant to know where they came from. It also has a torture device that at one point we think it might be maybe a pleasure device like Barbarella or maybe not none of this really make sense in the grand scheme of things, but you do not go into movie like Amazon hot box or those women in cages movies with Pam Grier. For it to make sense, you go because it isn't exploitation film. Where does this go into bananas from beginning to end? And this is so in that sense it absolutely fits the Bill. It did what it was supposed to do which is be a complete Oman to those seventies exploitation films. Tristan risk was was great in this as kind of the the crazy one and overall it was it was a bizarre film. But it was fun. And a lot of people like this had probably more laughs in it than almost any other film over the weekend. I really liked jet. Bryant jet. Brian was hilarious kind of this deadpan delivery. He is the gloat unquote leader of the island, except he does not want to be at all. Because he knows that all the other ones get killed. So that was great Amazon hot box that was that was an odd one. But you know, exactly what you're getting into. When you see a film like this. And if you're looking for that your search is over because Amazon hawks delivers on that the closing day on Sunday, which took place at the Rio theatre again shot to Rachel and her crew over there at the Rio it was great. And thank you for being patient with me while I set up my recording studio inist air, well that the employers had to kind of go past us a couple times to get to the projection room. So my policies to your staff, but they were all really great about it. So thank you for that. So Sunday had three feature films along with two other. Short, film blocks and the big awards ceremony, which you can actually I live stream that on my Facebook page, so you can actually find that. And check it out, but the two short, film blocks. We'll talk about those real quick. So those I will do an honorable mention from the short film block these and actually there were only like six and six Archie seven six for these some of these actually had seen. I think what if you these when I covered the Vancouver short film festival. And so these the ones that I was looking for that were little bit different or unique. And I was impressed. So out of the short film block one. My honorable mention is Nepenthes written and directed by Ariel Hanson. This also has trysted risk in it as well. This basically takes a a woman who is very tired of dating apps, but she makes a match with this beautiful young woman who they had stuff off right away. She's head over heels for this person on the other end of the phone. She was to meet her at her house as she gets to the house thing. Start feeling weird both emotionally and also physically as she is walking in different places sort sticking to the ground starts feeling very odd. And I will not give away the big twist. But the the twist is literally in the name the pen, you can use Google that and find out what that is what I liked about Nepenthes. Oh, if I'm pronouncing that right? I hope so Ariel. This is a body horror short film that was done in a very unique way. And in a surprising way where the character would get scratched a little bit should lift up her shirt. This was some very convincing makeup design and kind of I would say prosthetic design. We see that on on our side. We start to see takeover her body all while this invisible enemy invisible. Creature quote unquote is doing this to her. So that would just really unique. I like the idea of this. And this is an idea that I have never seen before so shadow to you aerial for doing that we tried to get together and do an interview. But again at the Rio is a little bit challenging various places. So hopefully, when I go up to ban cougar one of these times, a definitely will sit down with aerial. She is a great filmmaker. An actress up there in Vancouver. So that was my honorable mention my favorite of short film block one on Sunday is actually one that I had seen before the Vancouver short film festival, but I was not able to basically because of the competition and how how did that last episode was able to give it the credit deserved? But guilt truths. Dwelling was my favorite from short film block one sing it again, a second time after seeing it Vancouver short film festival and getting to sit down and talk with MARCY Wachtel and Jeremy letter from the production. Now, I was able to go into the second time with some different is after interviewing them, and you can listen to that ups owed front couple months ago from the Vancouver short film festival sing it again in a venue like this and after talking to them it really deepened my appreciation for guilty welling. So it is this time travelling slash. Mention traveling story where this house is kind of the centerpiece as a bounces from place to place, and it is really about longing and sacrifice. And what you're willing to sacrifice for your dreams. So really liked girl. Guilt truths. Dwelling cool to see in a second time with some different perspective. So my favorite my honorary. Mention honorable mention for short film block to is. I think the shortest film of the entire festival, and it was called arc and that was written and directed by the only thing that I could find was undress Salinas. I think so. And I kind of look for that. 'cause this did not really have credits because it was only a minute long in a minute film, it immediately hooked me and made me want to see more of what the story is going to do we see young man with some piece of future technology in his hand. And he is running from somebody. He gives it to a young woman. She then takes it aknowledges kind of what that sacrifice is that he is doing she either implanted in herself or does something to it. And then is taken up into space, and we see the space ship in orbit slowly start flyway cut that was it. Some people would be dissatisfied with that. Because I would want to know more me awfully want to know more. But that was enough for me to be like that was really well done, and I do wanna see more. But at the same time if they never go back to this. I'm okay with that also. But it was just it was really cool and in that one minute hooked me so good for you. The my favorite though, for the short film block is Ceylon Siahaan. This is a tough one because there were two films in this block that I was kind of the jockeying for position for my favorite. And the other one was influenced so influenced by Julia Bruns, also really really cool, but Siahaan had a little bit more of what? Not maybe not necessarily what I liked. But it just hit me a different way. Sign is essentially we come to find out in this eleven minutes, a king, a modern King Arthur tale where we have Arthur and Lance a LANCELOT having this interaction, and it took me a second to kind of put it together. But I was like, wait a minute. I know these names under these stores 'cause it was just it was done in a way where it was not so obvious. But one to actually recognize what it is. That was really cool also shuttered sign on for the sword that they use is a replica of NAR cell, which was era Gorringe sword that was reformed from his ancestor's sword whose silvers air that was really cool. And I like to seeing that soared because it is really cool slaughtered so deep cut Lord of the rings thing right there. But it made sense within the world semi favourite for the short film walked to was Siahaan, and that was written and. Wrecked by Matthew Lebed. It was a very close race between that and influenced. Okay. So now under the three feature films that were shown on Sunday night. Now, these were knuckle, the hollow child, and Amy Amy is what clues the festival it was a world premiere of that. So starting with the hollow child now this was directed by Jeremy letter and written my Ben Rollo. Another example of winna kid goes into the forest and comes out a little bit different that should be assigned. Something is wrong. Something is very wrong. So this they basically they recognize that this daughter is some sort of gang in this town that has us mythology of do not go in this part of the forest because in the seventies this person one of the forest and burn down her house because she feared an impostor was. To take the place of of people in her life that happens again in this one. And so even though we have seen various versions of this before one of the things that was really incredible in this film was the actual creature design of these kind of gangs of these imposters is not your standard your standard reveal where somebody turned the corner. And then there's a monster. There should be a little girl. Instead, it goes into this like you have to build on the mythology of the movie that the way to see them is different. And they have to you know, they hide their appearance really well and to want to actually start to see the breakdown of this creature. It was really cool, and we do finally get to see kind of the the actual creatures themselves or these one of them. But during that transformation scene were character is trying to focus on trying to see what the thing actually looks like that was really cool. So this had just McLeod Hannah Sharani as the the two daughters. Those are the two that we really interact with the most. So yeah, that was really cool. And again, this felt their relationship this kind of sisterly bond felt genuine so that definitely helped to sell it. And the crew design was really cool smart choices as far as the film making are really liked that. And yeah, it takes a an idea that we have seen before. But gives it a little bit of a twist gives it a unique vision. And that is what sets it apart. So yeah, that was the hollow child by Jeremy letter, and Ben Rouleau the other film was knuckleball knuckleball is. Serving this is one how I talked about before where people kind of cringe. This is one where the subject matter of this is tough. It is it is very tough to watch. Basically a young man twelve year old goes to live with his grandpa for a little bit. And this takes place in the middle of nowhere into sketchy on during a snowstorm. There is a a neighbor who is a little bit older on a little bit older. I mean, he definitely is older. And he starts making these weird advances and these weird conversations with this young man Henry at twelve years old boy and so right away. It just makes you cringe. It makes you feel uncomfortable and it pulls on that. And it goes deeper than that as the movie progresses. Unfortunately, the the grandpa dies. You know, rather, suddenly some this boy is. By himself in this house with nothing around. Meanwhile, he knows that this creepy neighbor is is nearby. So as you start to kind of piecing these things together, there definitely are some home alone moments that I liked the kids resiliency and resourceful nece. But yeah, this one it just kept pulling on that uncomfortable to really kind of make you feel a part of this world. So this this has Michael Ironside Canadian legend as well as Munro chambers and Luca villas as the three main people the parents are in this number much though, so mainly a three of them, the two people interact on most are Monroe, Luca Dixon and Henry their interactions. Are are so odd and soul uncomfortable because of the believe ability because of just this. Weird energy that you have while watching this moving. So again, as I have said before when art makes you feel something whether you love it or hate it it worked we come out of a moving. You're like man that was whatever that movie failed with this. It makes you feel. So it makes you feel scared for the young, man. And makes you feel worried it makes you want him to succeed in his quest for revenge as it were as the movie progresses. So. Yeah. Knuckleball very hard to sit through but solid film. And then the film ended the festival the world premiere was Amy says director by rusty Nixon. So again, you will get to hear a bunch of people involved in this production in the about interview episode. I wanted to give them a lot of coverage because this was the world premiere, and it was closing the festival. So I wanted to make sure that I give them a chance to talk about their amazing film. This film stars Deb's Howard as Cassie. Who is a typical seventeen year old who loves her boyfriend? So so much her boyfriend being Sam Robert Hall, man. I should have looked up how to say her last name, buddy. I'm just going to call you Sam Robert. So that I do not put your last name, but she loves Liam, you know, so much and she was head over heels. Liam is kind of typical seventeen year old jock itch guy, where he does not really care for her in the same way that she does he has multiple prospects. And he he just moves on rather quickly. But because she is so codependent and because she lost her her mother in an accident. She is desperately looking for a connection. She finds that connection in this digital companion called Amy where she starts to customize source to learn about your behaviors. And so she customize it to sound like her mom, which would be kind of cute. Kind of sincere to be like, hey, I just want to hear my mom as the voice of series passed away. This is the way for her for me to keep her with me. Sure, why not accept when that AI is basically a cross between Hal nine thousand and Charles Manson because over the course of the film as Amy is as the technology aiming is not just listening, but it is learning, and it is creating different behaviors based on what Cassie quote unquote needs. And so of Cassie is feeling betrayed or hurt Amy feed into that if Cassius feeling positive and just wants to talk about positive things Amy feed into that. But as soon as Cassie starts feeling negative start having these negative thoughts. Amy starts turning and Amy Amy just wants to protect her and through that. I mean, we have Phil Granger as. Greg her dad who has kind of gone on to become this kind of womanizing character, her friend, ruby Hannah guppy who you will also hear on the interview suddenly everybody around her starts to recognize something is very wrong. This is no longer. Just oh, you just you haven't Amy as companion to talk to about your problems. This is your Amy has learned how dark your mind is. And is feeding it and is making you do things that you may be always wanted to do. But never had the confidence to do. Now. You have that push. Now, you have that. Okay here. It is go for it, Bonnie. Hey, plays the voice of Amy as well as her mother. Diane kassy's, mom, Diane. So this was a kind of a throwback to a typical eighties slasher film. But. With that upgraded twist of having this guy who is the main antagonist, we have people following her orders. But Amy is the real villain, even though Deb's changes and Deb's character of Cassie changes through the film as doing very evil things. Amy is the one with that little voice in her ear being like, you know, they never appreciated you. I appreciate you. I love you just do this to prove it. So really solid. I definitely think that people who are fans of slashers on her and people who are terrified of the technology that we carry around on our pocket should definitely check out Amy. And this is one that is actually going to be available pretty pretty soon pretty quickly July second is when it will be on a bunch of different platforms. So it had its world premiere at this festival, and it was cool to see the reaction that got after talking to the cast who when you. Create a film and you have like a cast and crew family and friends screening. Everybody is going to love it. Everybody is going to be so proud that you made the thing. And so to see this this cast and crew. You know beforehand being like, this is the world premiere. This is a big deal. So that was really cool. And I'm glad that just everybody had a really good reaction to it. So yes, that was Amy which was the closing night film. So overall this festival was incredible. I watched more horror and John refilmed in seventy two hours. Then I had in a while. But as great it was definitely a change of pace for me of just outside of seeing kind of standard theatrical releases major studio releases getting backed that indie feeling of genre films and horror and the unique things that people are doing another short film that I definitely wanted to shout out was captured captured was probably only short film over the weekend that genuinely creeped me out, the director of is brand McDonald. Who again, we tried to organize an interview this weekend. But it just did not work out. So sorry about that brand. But captured was really really cool. It gave me the creeps. It kind of takes that lights out approach of union to have something bright on because as soon as the lights go out or circuiting dim. A look a demon is right there, so really really cleverly filmed and paste did not rely on jump scares. So captured was really cool. So I want to get that when a shout out as well. Okay. So onto my honorable mention feature film of the twenty nineteen fan couvert bats film festival. My honorable mention is Amy which I spoke about at length. I really enjoy this one. I think this is something where once it hits the on demand platforms and other platforms. This is going to really, well, I think especially now that like things like shudder. There are John rea- on demand services. People are going to get you know, people are going to find this and be able to watch it and have access to it. So that I'm really excited for so that is Amy it's my honorable mention for a best of and the Vancouver bats film festival twenty nineteen. So my favorite feature film that I saw this past weekend was perfect skin. And this is one that I did not know that I would like this one as much as I did. But how much it stuck with me with how much I kept thinking about the really clever ways they did things and again, the portrayals. So I mean, the Talia and Richard like it was incredible. And I think those performances along with the film itself are really what stuck out stuck out to me. So perfect skin gets my best of. Award. I guess not award because if I say war people are going actually want an award. It gets my favorite for the cougar bettas film festival. So that kind of wraps it up for my coverage of the twenty nineteen Vancouver. Badass film festival. It was a ton of fun. I got to meet a lot of really great filmmakers. I wish that I had more time to sit down with people, but it was really really packed weekend. So hopefully, you know, there's some people that I can collaborate with next time. I go up to ban couvert, hopefully, pretty soon depending on kind of what festival going on. If you are interested in having me cover your festival, a festival director definitely hit me up about review at G dot com and easy way or on all forms of social media. And yeah, we can talk about that. And see what we can make happen. So thank you again to David Abu Safi, who's a co-creator Vancouver bats film festival and the companies associated with generative productions and dark side releasing. If you are a Vancouver based filmmaker and you're looking further financing or production work, definitely reach out to those not just of your Vancouver based filmmaker like Montenegro dark side, releasing did that film, they released film Amazon hot box that was one of theirs. So if you're filmmaker especially in genres like this reach David reach out to those two companies, and they will absolutely help you out. So that wraps it up. It was a great weekend. Thank you, David. 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Quarantine Mailbag | The JJ Redick Podcast

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Quarantine Mailbag | The JJ Redick Podcast

"Hey Kelly and welcome to the ring podcast network. The Ringer is launching. A new podcast. From the guys who brought you assessment as family barbecue called Baseball Barbecue hosted by Jake Mints and Jordan Shusterman bringing the good the bad and the utterly bizarre corners of the baseball world and everything that makes it special throughout the off season. They'll dive into the rabbit hole on some of their favourite fascinations from the homerun. Derby to baseball brawls and much more once the season returns they'll break down the latest. Mlb News and developments. You can subscribe to Baseball Barbecue on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. This week's episode of the JD. Right PODCAST WITH TOMMY. Alter were mixing things up a little bit this week. We're doing a mail bag episode. Millbank never done one of these since last some. Yes since the Hamptons since right after you signed in New Orleans correct. Who's post free agency before we get to that? Can you explain? What's going on in your background would you? I'm so confused in your in your in your in the background of of your office where you're recording it's beautiful. I appreciate that if you WanNa see this listeners. You have to go to the Youtube Zoom Clip to C. J. D. background right now so we came back on Sunday. We came back to Brooklyn. We're GONNA just be here for the foreseeable future either until I get called back or I guess to later this summer when things so been back out but we're just giving shelter shelter here for the next several weeks So yeah I mean not have some books records over there you can see springsteen's born to run record right now Then you have a picture of my parents throwing throwing pots clay ladders and a bunch of a watch looks and wine books. Just you know normal stuff that goes into an office I think. What your favorite record of all time. Favorite record little time Throw throw a few out there. Springsteen I'M GONNA give them to born to run and the sleeper Nebraska Nebraska's party a deep sleeper is a perfect album And he said he had a few out. I think but the BRASK is my second favorite of monsters and men their first album. Phoenix's album back in like two thousand nine hundred hundred ten Wolfgang. Amadeus Amadeus Phoenix. Were looking on the days that it was all those are the ones off the top of my head love and then you want a slight talk hip hop then you start going to a couple of nauseous albums a couple of two blocks albums several. Jay albums Chinese first three albums plus my beautiful dark twisted fantasy. Yeah yeah those are all gap. Do you ever do you ever listen Amy White House and I know who amy. White House was in is. Yeah for sure. I've listened to on the vinyl is unbelievable. Yeah what's your favorite. What's your favorite album of all time? I don't know if you if you talk hip hop ill matic. Nasa's first album is is literally a perfect album. And I think been when it's all the reviewers everybody everybody's sort of points to it as like. This is the greatest hip hop album. Ever it's not the album that I would most free. Listen to sure that's fair. I like scale matic still. Manna came out it. Great yes you know high school. Do you know his for near you. Ever his untitled album from two thousand eight. I Yeah I do. I'm trying to remember the one song on it but I really liked the name of the songs coming to my head. I can look it up. Real quick Who's GonNa ask you? I was going to ask you about albums music. I forget. Let's talk before we get tonight. I was GONNA say I was GONNA say listeners. She Will WanNa get some great music recommendations especially similar stuff Our our friend. Brian Complement is a big music nerve. And he's already given me. You know a couple of recommendations that I loved Neil Young our moon. Yup I just just play that while I'm cooking the kitchen. It's amazing amazing Just did he just did a great Interview on his podcast with Jason is bill. Yes really Really really interesting We're GONNA HAVE WE'RE GONNA wind. We're going to win on at some point. Yes baller we have to win win Butler from arcade fire. We want to get well. He he's become a buddy of mine. He lives down in New Orleans on the Bod. I just feel like with win. You really gotta get Picture US in some like recording in some hole in the wall locals only New Orleans Dive Bar. We have with just a cocktail hand. You know that season I envision the win Butler podcast experience. He is a he for a guy who has not lived in New Orleans. His entire life is truly. The mayor of the city is Dowden it. It's it's an arguable. When when we saw him in March he We went to the game. And you didn't want to come out. And so he knows it a late game game. I think the game ended at like eleven or eleven thirty. He ended up taking me out to a probably five thirty in the morning we went to. I'd say six or seven different places. Every place was more random and sort of whole on the walls and the next. Everybody knew him but he wasn't like this with the war like his regular spots. It wasn't like he goes there like every two days. I just think he is completely dialed in in the entire city. Where FOOD PLACES MUSIC PLACES? We went to a college bar one point and he's just he's not walking in he's not walking in like it's win. Butler Co Star. He just goes into hangs in the corner and come up to him a lot of times not. I don't think necessarily recognizing him like. Oh my God you're this guy market fire. They're just like Oh that's win. He's here all the time right right. He's already miss. I mean he's six five is a big guy. He's always got a hat on. He's usually in some some. If teen Jordan's that took me on a Monday night to a place called Saturn bar which is over in In like Bywater area and we watched a brass band way and it was one of the most unique experiences of my life. I'll just put it that way. It was it was incredible and it. It felt surreal. It felt like I was like in a dream New Orleans can add that affect you know. I was not doing drugs. To have is just hours. I was just there. You know just present. Yuna jump into the mailbag real quick. What's your feeling this week before the mail bag? Nba Real quick. What's your feeling on the latest developments? Greg question so here's be as jake away from our call with Adam. The recent border governors call. Which of course information for both calls leaked. I'm pretty sure woge. And or Shams and or my Mark Stein and all those guys were probably on the call. Let's be honest. They figured out the dislande invoke but Adam said something to the effect of you know we have to get to the point where we're comfortable with a risk to exposure and if someone test positive then we're not going to shut the whole league down again and look until we get. Well thank you can play so I kind of I kind of agree with that. The first time he's he's said that at least you know in in one of these meetings I've been in contact with David Griffin a bunch of the That was really interesting tidbit from from Williams article on. Espn the other day. That really stuck out for me was just acknowledging that until we have a vaccine. The only way for us to play is that if we accept some level of risk Is that a perfect world. No absolutely not but I think there's there's there's obviously a lot on the line and health and safety has to be the top priority So figuring out how. To sort of mitigate that risk in our little bubble I think is the only way for us to play. How small do you think a a MBA traveling party could be still be basically provide everything that it needs? Yes it's tough Thank you get to twenty four to twenty eight twenty four to be really tough twenty eight. Maybe you can do with and I did the math on this when this you know the the CDC the initial recommendation of no gatherings fifty or more. We're talking about you know playing not lying in front of fans and trying to put a game operation together without thirty people being there. You know. It's tough so you basically had it down to about twenty four per team and then everybody else was sort of distanced away. You know the game operations people to announcers all that stuff so when you add in probably four or five more people to make traveling party work. Yeah you're talking about maybe twenty eight people. I mean look at the other thing. That scares me so I don't want to be going to be negative but I'm just gonNA. This is just me speaking out. I think maybe you and I've talked about this on texts this week. But so we're we're talking about the bubble now right this idea of sort of you know one or two cities in blank as many games as possible in buying the playoffs out and sort of some version of quarantine and and following some level of isolation protocols for players and their families. What is going to change exactly between this summer and December? Let's say start the season December. Why what is GonNa Change between now and then we would be able to play in by live in our hope in our own cities and traveled to other cities in play. That's what's kind of worrisome to me. Would you agree with me? I don't think there's an answer to that. I just yeah nothing I mean. It's it from all from all scientific sort of accounting of this it. This is a seasonal virus. And so we're probably in for more of what we've been through in the fall you know without a vaccine arena have to bubble next year for six galaxy months when you're talking about people just knowing the risks and basically opting into the risks that a contractual thing is that thing were like everybody in the traveling party says if I got this. We can't be held responsible for it. I I would assume there would have to be some level of liability involved where you're signing something acknowledging risk. I don't know though I mean they extended the CVA sort of deadline with whatever you WANNA call it because of the force majeure you know both sides can essentially walk out from the CVS. They extended the deadline to sort of be able to walk out in September so I think both sides layers league we wanNA games WANNA play Recognizes is not going to happen with fans anytime soon but one day but we also have a responsibility to not just ourselves in our families in everybody within our traveling Bharti and everybody within the organization. It's going to be involved but a responsibility to society to do that in a safe way. That's you know so there's a way to insulate us and we acknowledged the risk and we play and everybody agrees to do that than the auto at the APP Games. There has to be some level of protection. You know for for anyone who doesn't who doesn't want that risk. What do you think about the Fake crowd noise. They say they're saying football. It's certainly going to happen. I haven't I haven't heard or read that about anything in the NBA at Crown. His I am in the NFL. I don't know if I don't know if they were supposed I was reading it. I think Joe Buck said it. I don't know if we're was supposed to say publicly. But basically that that's going to because they're going to play these games without fans but it looks like they're on track to do this starting normal schedule time that the same way that like in practice they simulate fake crowd noise to get guys ready. They're just going to do that at home games. Which C. C. While to me but the NFL's playing in like eighty thousand seats stadiums. Right aren't they? They're playing the stadiums whereas I don't think we'll be playing at least not right away. I don't think we'll be playing in our home. Arenas will be buying dollar venues at Disneyworld or whatever you know. And there's guys are taught guys talk you know so. I think I think it'll be enough noise. Squeaks allies sneaker squeaks. Look I get really sad that we've talked about this. You had days where you're really optimistic in your helpful in the days. Where Your? Little Nest Mystic in your. You're sad and I am sat for a lot of people. Obviously people are struggling healthwise economically with their with their jobs. And all that stuff. This is just a very very sad situation. There's there's a lot of days where I'm just heartbroken. Let's get through the mail bag. We got some good questions. I don't see any of these questions before. You're the one that gets these questions. These are my favorite episodes. Because I don't have to prep for. We got some great questions this week. I still want weird or questions. I want questions that make you visibly uncomfortable. Those are the best best bill. That questions are when you look at it. You're like I can't answer that and we don't have enough of those indistinct right now all right. Let's start it offs. Riley lanes sent an email in. What's one activity that you guys have done in quarantine that you never would have done in normal times? Why don't you start without? I have a bunch of a bunch of activities. I started meditating playing the piano. Honestly this is not at. This is an activity that I I've done in small doses. But the amount of Shit that I've watched in the last eight eight weeks is insane compared to what your second normal and it's like it's like that with you for sure where you just don't have time to watch anything between the kids and stuff and season but I would say I would say meditation is by by God. Answer is our grass at for sure arts grass not a real big arts and crafts guy but you know for school. I did a ton of stuff with obviously we. I think we've talked about. We did a whole children's book series. knocks illustrated and guide him dictated. I gotTa Road Things Out About two cub tigers named Elijah Ethan. Who went on adventures in Sag Harbor in Brooklyn and New Orleans The other day for Mother's Day we did like three days worth of like arts and crafts and then when she woke up we had all these banners and cards and hearts made so yeah arts and crafts you think stick with it and I was doing arts and crafts today out of the patio or there. So yeah I think I will stick with it. Yeah it's a good see that this is a positive knox is like Knox's very creative like he likes doing this stuff. So it's like I'd notice in quarantine like it's really fun for me to do it with really appreciates when I do these projects so I think so. Few people have asked us. I'm GonNa read this from Matthew Graham. What's the weirdest request you've ever received? Fan I mean. I've never been asked to do anything. That was inappropriate or anything like that. I'd have to really think about it because I feel like there's honest there's probably nine or ten really weird things that have I just basically have repressed them new slack about plaque about. Do you think the Internet makes fan interaction better or worse social media and the Internet has allowed everyone voice even people. That shouldn't have voice. I must have a boy subdivision of voice on certain things but it's a lot everybody to have a voice and holds athletes to some level of accountability. So I think that can sorta wear on the athlete a little bit but I also think when there's genuine sort of back and forth and interaction with fans. It's it's an awesome so it's a good thing. Here's a college question Casey Evans. Jj can you give us a quick rundown at higher? Recruitment went my dad. Always says you almost came to Uva and that made your games against us all the more painful. That is true. I almost did go to unique. So basically do was my dream school. I had wanted to go there since I was eight years old as I was you know. It was in high school and playing for Williams I realized like UvA would be a great option to a couple campus tours official visits or whatever and two of my teammates on booms out Brown and Jason Clark. They were my close friends on balloons. They were billing. Uva and I was like really drawn to sort of the idea playing with those guys at Uva staying in state all that stuff so the fall of my junior year like in September I so a visit to UvA visits do. I was supposed to go the following weekend to University of Florida. Those are my top three schools. Billy Donovan was there so I go to Viagra visit Great Time. I go to do you know when I'm in the room with coach Gay. He said you know you can commit. You have an offer whatever and get back to Virginia and I'm supposed to Florida with my sisters. My parents weren't even going with me. It was there. It was like midnight. Midnight Madness daily was daily in our friends. He was calmed down from Saint. Louis sounds like this. Is this weekend's going to be awesome and then by Tuesday Tuesday night I was like man. I don't even WanNa go just like the duke. Shane was like so heavy on me. I'm just GONNA commit and I wanted to get you know the commitment out of the way and just enjoy the last two seasons of my school career so I committed that Wednesday to do down. The phone with coach told him I was coming. This is what I would say if I went to Gainesville. Who knows who's on that team. Florida team will so my senior. They ended up winning a championship with Joe and has. Yeah Import Moore. That team was like Rogerson. David Lee James White Matt Walsh went. Obviously I denied in. I didn't know so Matt Walsh was the wing Beta Team but I was GONNA say University of Texas recruited me pretty hard to and I gave him. I don't WanNa Really WanNA leave home owner. Be Close to home and I mean I lived in Austin for three and a half years had I made it down to Austin high. School might gonNA use. I don't know I was so focused on going to do so. Did you have any? Did you have any inbetween when you've got to do and you committed you have any What if feet moments or you're locked in now because my junior year do won a national title and in my senior year. Jay Will Boozer Dunleavy. Were all there. And they came back and Dunleavy We've been friends since junior year high school. So you know I used to go down by sisters lived in Raleigh at the time so it's still do so I would go down. See to stay with them crash with my in play. Pick up on the weekends in Summers whatever like it was offseason so I got a time. He was supposed to be that he was supposed to be a senior to stay and be my mentor. And then I dove in the streets. I just got Nasseri Thousand and then from there before we get to the next question. Let's hear from our friends from Roman. 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Alex Clark writes give us an example of an internal battle. Each of you face at some point in your life whether it's a spiritual conflict relationship issue major life decision. This is from the guy who loves quaker OATS SQUARE CEREAL ON twitter question. What's it internal battle you face? I mean every day getting up active the darkest podcast we've ever recorded guy. I think is the squirted getting to us. But I always internal battle Whenever I've moved in my life where I've moved cities for job even even with college like I mean. It wasn't a question of whether I was going to do it but I would. Just get myself a get anxious and I would get I. Would I would do the pros and cons of everything and I'm getting my own head about it. I don't get internal battles about work stuff because I do a lot of different. Shit and so. I've I've I've now in a position where I've sort of set my life up where it's not like I'm locked into one thing and if I leave that it's like I'm throwing my life away. I'm just kind of all over the place but I do think that that is a I could see you know from my friends. Who've had situation I could see if you've been at one place for a really long time and you have all these this sort of goodwill built up internally and everything like that. I could see how that could could mess. People up by internal battle is actually one that POPs up quite frequently. Sometimes I could go three or four years and it doesn't pop up. Sometimes it could be once every couple of months just just the love hate relationship. I have with basketball the first time ever experienced it. I was in eighth grade. I broke my wrist the third time in six months. So what my dad I was. I'm not going to school today. This as I go kass on. Am I going to school basketball August donating our Soured so I went to the doctor. Got My cast on school. Came home from work that day. He bought me a Nike Duke. T-shirt leaves he just like sorry much risk. Here have this Jerk Guy. You got me back on track you know. I've talked about this before my sophomore year. Do I felt like I wanted to quit. That was a transition period. Basically since I've had children you know you have this internal battle of like I've got to be selfish about basketball but I also want to be selfish about my family in constantly weighing that balancing that is is Har- and it can really weigh on you. So you have these these periods where it's like. Maybe I should stop line. You know and and just be with my family For me the battle you think every player has version of that. Yes for sure for sure. There's nobody did. I don't care how good you are like Lebron James. Whether he's the greatest player of all time or one of the three best players are right there absolutely moments where he is probably. The man is really worth it all. This is all of this like obviously he appreciates the game is given we all have. There's there's you know there's the negativity or there's the the wanderlust of the season where you're just constantly on somebody else's schedule and you know. I know every job is like that but everybody has it at their job so when it begun to job sometimes. You're like Yeah Okay. Fuck this yeah. I think I was talking with somebody yesterday about this. But it's like why. Why am I still why you still blam returned thirty six month absolutely because basketball has been the love of my life for twenty years? I loved it. I mean I love my family see more bass more a thing and I still do. And that's why still play 'cause I just absolutely love it but there's definitely times where it brings on a certain amount of anx. What did you think about stand van day saying as competitive as Jordan? I think what he was trying to say was the reason. He was greatest because he was so talented. Andy a competitive this. There's a lot of talented guys and there's a lot of competitive guys. There's very few guys that are as competitive and as talent when win stand got fired. I texted him that day. I was I was fucking distraught analysis so kiss and how and how they fired him. I don't know ever become public but how they fired him was just during those guys. I mean seriously had they fire. I'm not that did it just. It wasn't right it wasn't right. They disrespected anyways. I'm distraught and I. We were texting day. He actually said to me day. Said you know you don imus in. Rashard are my three favorite players of coached in terms of your work ethic and competitiveness in your your professionalism and all that so he. He had said things to me before like that. But I did see that when you when you said that the other day he said I was competitive as Michael Jordan. I have other issues besides gambling. So by competitiveness manifest itself in other ways. But certainly I think you most guys are really really competitive. Most guys are really competitive. Most guys are really talented but do to be both at such a level makes him grace. Chris Warren writes in speaking of Mj says would you do JJ? Would you do a last dance style? Documentary for your final season when I do a last dance. Yeah and then the follow up is a to both of us who would be your co starred Rob Com. Okay like that okay. That's good dot dot question. I thought your call whether you're team allows that but would you do a follow thing around like a D. Wade type thing where you I mean. I guess I would consider it but I don't amount really thought about it. I think the book thing is probably probably where I'm headed by something like that. I mean we haven't done. Iran com rankings. But like it's GONNA be Jennifer. M's gotta be really like to start with. Yeah what is it okay? So we're not to ruin our. I'm not saying I had like a crusher. I'm just saying she's just like Sh- she's the best and Rob Gosh she. Just which Rob Calms What's the movie with Jason? Today because we are the millers. Oh my God Oh my God. We need to do a full episode on this thing. I loved it a fan. I'm Jennifer Aniston Hater. If this was who would you want to star in a sitcom with a fine movies are great? But she's well down the list. She's not even a top five. Maybe she maybe. She's not done like the traditional Rom com that you're speaking that you know like like Notting Hill or how to lose a guy in ten days. Sweden Alabama like those type of movies like she has done many of those like she's done like we are millers and horrible bosses and that terrible movies she did with Gerard Butler that I forgot the name of it was universally panned by So Vince Vaughn where they live together but they're broken up. She's done that they just start to break. Up was not a ROM com so I need to rewatch break because I've it first half of the movie playing like a wrong. Yeah second half. The movie is dark. Shit all right I. I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing right when we get off of. This podcast is every watching. The break-up it's more of a drama. We're GONNA this is. This is a to be continued conversation. Because we're going to have a full episode on this once we are. What's it's ready once. The episode is ready. Once we both feel comfortable with our Institutional Rob Com knowledge. This is going to happen. This is an interesting one. I think from Jay Goyal who ended a street fight between Zion and CONOR McGregor. I mean you gotta go with the professional would say connor has a good chance of beatings. I on but I can't. I can't knock go with my teammate. So I was dying my choice I would say. Conor has these jets that that will be designed didn't even make it into our back alley rankings. But the but that's just the question the back alley thing is the guy that's looking for a fight. Zion's clearly not looking for a fight but he's just such a physical beast that Qatar's tough to beat. I don't have to exile because not by teaming. Isn't there video somewhere of connor scrapping with the mountain. From game of thrones video exists. Yeah it was bouncing around the red a couple months ago connors like a big Guy Right now. He's like five nine hundred forty pounds. He's little yesterday is it's just. It's just a question is the question of whether Zion can land something before he just grounds and pounds. Okay Eric. This question for bills on News Mont build a perfect shooter taking element from each of the greats example. Dame's range Claes form your work etc. This is good. I'm taking Donna than Mitchell's balance. I had him on the podcast. I told him this. I've never seen someone who so on his lower body strength is just insane to me. And he's so lan balanced every time he shoots. The jump shot some taking his balance. Claes up there too when he just doesn't have the same lift. Claes balanced straight to the Donovan Mitchell. Balance Ray Allen's jumping and cats were able to throw greyhounds cavs in there I go back and forth between Klay Thompson form and Kyle Korver form. Those guys have the best the best form to me. What is it credible? Cavs mean like his calf muscles. Incredible credible the vessels the muscles are credible. Rayo has great. Calf muscles isn't plural of calf. This is curious so that so but that is just like they're strong they don't get hurt like what no like. We're building the shooter right. So located like Dodd Mitchell's like the Nia we got Don Mitchell. But then we got ray ounce casts. Okay perfect like you know totally no I know yeah vets. And then we're GONNA throw in Steph Curry's false just a stone's on at this stoned on that guy and you know what we got. I gotta get some like some love to dame with his range so even though staff has range will say. Dame's ranch dip dame's range steps stones. Cool as form Donovan's balance raise jumping slash caps. What am I missing? Am I missing anything but work see me when I was GonNa say you have to be in there in some capacity? Why Not is vision important at all in this calculation or not? Really think so people talk about like how to you know shoe Vassalboro and like one of the things they talk about where to look at. Look at the back of the room. You'll confront ram sheet over the front around. Shoot it at the back of the RIM in. It'll it'll go in some people. Watch the ball just just bizarre to me. There are some shooters. Watch the ball. I generally just like look into general direction the Rim. I don't like like focus on the front or the back. It's just it's more just muscle memory by the way. Speaking of something is being taught. Wrong layups we need to talk about this for the wellish. When I was brought up in maybe basketball coaches now teaching youth or teaching this differently. But if you're shooting a one legged lineup so you're shooting a one legged layup on the right side. You should not jump off your left foot. You should go same hand same leg or you go same or you go outside leg inside hand so right leg. Latin on the right side left leg right hand on the left side because you shot just going to get blocked. You're exposing your your so why is being taught wrong. It's literally from the nineteen fifties like. This is how people are at least when I was growing up. I mean people will comment that sometimes when they're watching the game stuff on social media. I'm like he's like. Why did this Guy Shoe right right right into lamp of his right foot keeping his body between him and the defense this the way you gotTa Sugar Layoff Clay? He's playing against athletic people. Anyways it coaches out. There hit me up on twitter or instagram. About this. If you agree or disagree it's got to be outside Land Ryan Rhoda. What's the most difficult arena to play in because a fan lighting setup? It's I don't think there's a difficult read to plan. I think fans WANNA think that we go in there and we're like scared of blanking arena. That's just not the case. I mean if you get to the NBA like new played high level basketball before a bunch of people screaming at you or mood. Lighting really has no effect to say. So you're telling me the warmup song before before Opening tip is not is not making a difference now now no pity what was the what was the. What's the Boston Celtics? Play with when they come out for walks or playing enter Sandman. I think at least when I was back in the playoffs with talent within they played the Irish song ship ship. The Boston shots purpose. Yes they got me betty yet. How would you have felt if you were playing against Jordan's Bulls and you saw serious? Obviously they're still doing the song now but it's not the same team. So it's not as impactful Jordan's bulls. So you know the warm up the Bulls. Ninety s like is there. Is there any world where you would if you were on the opposing team? And maybe not you as a vet but you as a rookie or a second year guy and you see that intro. That's not going to throw you off at all. I think you could. Yeah the guy the thing is like I'm not saying fans have an effect on the game. I'm saying it's not like it's difficult to go out there and do your job reduce something because of the atmosphere. If anything it elevates you it can elevate home team. Elevate the road team like it's special to play in front of advance. So let's let's be clear on that and I also want to say in response to your question. There were years there where you're playing in. Golden State when they're in Oregon. They're on their run nowhere. Winning three out of four championships like fuck man bike. We gotta be at our best tonight you know we know the fans are going to be at their best we know the warriors are really great. WE GOTTA BE AT OUR. Best Win. So that's really. The thought process is like I get nervous before every game. Every game still fourteenth year nervous for every game butterflies. All that stuff winded with a jump happens the PAP in all it. You just you just auto load kicks and you just feel. Daniel Martin writes Budget people have asked this. Actually I don't think we've ever talked about it. Why do you do this thing where you sit on the floor exit batch? Yes so I. I'm yet to get medical clearance from the NBA team has so- like asked for. There's GonNa be some doctors for you to be able to sit on the floor. They obviously don't want twelve guys sitting on floor so you know because of my history with some back problems. Not Gone that clearance. It started. It was my fifth or sixth year. I was bland in Orlando. We had day game in Miami. Abc Game Twelve thirty. And I like slept really via my back and I went out for warm. Shoot my shooting warm ups and I was like so tight just before like it were but hands on before the game in being all that stuff so I was nothing I can do to really like unlock my back so I walked in the locker room to tell Stan could play that he says to me. Hey Jay rich is out You're starting today so I was like okay so I go out there and I'm like I'm not even sure I can play. A preacher added Guard D. Wade some game so much. I I like. I run in the first quarter. I hit threes. So might okay. Maybe not be fine today so I went over to the bench and I was like all. I cannot sit on the bench to stiff so I laid on the ground started rolling and pretty much says that game. I've sat on the ground. That was the order of it. And it's really for me if I if I do sit like when I get up from this chair like my hip flexor in my bag Tight yeah so it's really about just like protection. I have I have a very long torso and assured arms short-leg so which is not. It's not good position for me to be. Have you been on a team? Where one of your teammates also did it. Nobody got guys. Sit with me. Like guys will sit with me and then if especially if it's a nationally televised game one of the trainers somebody will call you know from the League and say hey so and so can't sit on the floor so guys get kicked off for Floral Alley Rucker Front of the show right so if you could pick any movie set to visit from past releases what would you be and guilty pleasures on the road besides doughnuts swingers man like that would have been a fun movie to be on the setup the says really so low budget and it was if you could go back in time knowing what you know now that would be a it would be it would be the big it just hanging with extra line ground zero with that crew would have been great fabra like to be on. Ground Zero with those guys that movie budget that movie I think was under a million dollars. That's actually that's a great answer because what I was. GonNa say is most film sets are saying Li Boring. I mean there's nothing to see and I it's shocking to be. That people will pay money to go do set visits. Because it's not only. Are you not like hanging out with the actors at the framework or anything? You're not even really seeing any part of anything. It's all segmented timed out and everything like that. What makes it interesting or another sort of low budget? Film like that interesting is they. Were probably shooting on location. So it's almost like you're going to see like a student film or something like that like you. Just pull up there. I think like a lot of the bar scenes were like they just like went up to the bar. Hey we're going to film this movie. Tonight is cool. And they're like yeah role in base. I mean they had a permanent everything but like that's basically how it happened. I was GONNA throw one other movie out there as like I would love to have been onset while they were filming Lord of the Rings in New Zealand just to the New Zealand Barton on the same stage bar. Just the newseum part would have been awesome. I'll give you one. Recent one I think would have been fun. Is Uncut Gems would have been fun to be on that set because there was an element of. There's an element of swingers. I mean it was a little bit higher budget but there's an element of swingers to how they made that movie where a lot of the a lot of the small characters in that in that movie are not are not actors right and certain cases like the guys at the end of the movie when they're at the at the Casino in Connecticut. They literally this half literally cast them like day before they walked into the casino. They saw these guys. They're like Hey. Do you want to be in a movie tomorrow? And they were like sure. I don't even know if they paid them at. So there's a there's a part of that which is kind of interesting Here's a guilty pleasure on the road. Show I obviously we stay nicer hotels for the most part. There's the occasional you know four seasons ritz-carlton type stay. We're very very lucky we get to do that. And you know. I will frequently check in with the SPA or business center to see if there is a steamer. Asana and being able to do that on the road is is. That's a guilty pleasure for sir. Sure Richard Mansfield. Few years back you appeared on a podcast with pardon. My take shoutouts. Pf teamed big cat right before your interview did in Mount Rushmore segment of animals. You'd want on your team for fight. Who would you guys shoes? I've got a bone to pick with Barstool so they re released that video on youtube six weeks ago. Like two or three weeks into the pandemic of your interview of your interview with them and been all these fucking site. Start running the quotes for the sites. Like I'm still I'm not. I'm not talking about the clippers anymore. That was to fucking years ago. Who is it pleased to report that? That was aggregating. They just put up another video talking about Kevin Durant and player autonomy him going to the warriors reports even relative. No part my tape. Just put up another youtube video today. Did they release tire? Did they release the entire interview or just that clip equipped the whole interview al. Then they did like the thing. We do where we spice in like. Oh here's a ten minute clippers. Whatever so this'll be like this be like US releasing? This'll be like me putting out like a joke like Kyrie Kyri drunk in London. Yeah just happened is still. We're still talking about dinosaurs and flatter. And he's he's on a different team like there's all kinds of obviously we love those guys but especially funny about it is like it's not like you're not gonna go on that show anytime soon. You probably go on that show. Whenever we get out of here we were Brooklyn. So you're unnecessary person. Do need to aggregate from like you have stories. You've heard stories you can tell I can get aggregated like you. Don't need still be rehashing. Clippers stuff and lives across the speakers across the street from me in Montana. Happen Anytime Go. They're going through tough times. Know it's Lars from Germany writes in. He says longtime listener. I'm curious about your take on German food. What food do you know? Have you ever been to Germany and then also Take on Dirk okay. I've been to Germany once. It was to fly after the World Championships. Nineteen hundred world championships. In in Greece we flew from Athens to Frankfurt and we had a full day layover so I of course went out of the hotel. I was nineteen and I went with our team doctor and who. I'm still friends with this this this day and we went into like a square outside at a cafe at a couple of drinks. I don't even remember if we ate anything. And then we went back to Dell as you said to me. What's German food? I would think of Schnitzel pretzels Ross. I'm sure there's other stuff beer beer. Obviously at but that's what we've sort of taken from German food and made it mass produced here so I would love to go to Germany. It's definitely you know in my top five or ten places I WANNA go Dirk is Dirk special man especial. What's your take on dirtier I mean amazing. I don't know I've never heard a negative thing about him. Yeah in any capacity is a teammate. As a person like he's a he's I guess Nash is kind of like this to there. Just virtually universally beloved you'd have to really fight to try to come up with a critical thing to say other one of them. I wish national would show. He's doing fine in life. I'm sure yeah doing it's an interesting. What if he had stayed there doubts? Yes it's Dirks Turks one of the greatest of all time for sure from Addy Elliott writes in. I like this. Who Do you believe you could beat an encore fight in today's NBA and then who for all NBA history is a little harder but how today's NBA? Today's NBA. Joe Ingles for sure. I would I would just. I would kill Joey. Zell's that's obvious. That's an obvious goes without saying I feel like honestly if it really out to it. I feel like I could. I could check deandre Jordan. I know he's bigger than me. But he's like one of those big is where on Mike he doesn't really want to scrap unanimity. Those those were the two guys right away. I feel like I could be what about what about. Tj So here's what worries me about Tj. One of those. I feel like he just wouldn't stop so I I would literally kill kill. Who is it a TJ CONOR MCGREGOR? I almost think. Tj has a better chance than league. Scientists could just be like fuck this. I'm tired of this. Tj You really got to put him down or he's GONNA keep coming she says TJ center of gravity is so low. I would even I would struggle just like getting a hold of him. You know what I mean. Even though he's smart he's just so low. I don't know my roommate in college. We used to talk about this. He was like the scrappy. Guy From Arkansas. To Walk on our team was like Yo ever fought like we'll will you think you'd have to fucking guilty as basically two? There's only one way to find out Sydney Sarah. Chac rights favourite bottle of wine. Under thirty dollars. Okay so I would say for me right now on a nice sort of warm spring day where you can be outside in a comfortable social distance from other people. I think nice bottle of San which is You know it's seventy on belong. Grape from France is the region but a nice sense. There would be much less and you can find a nice bottle from thirty bucks fairly easily. What's your favorite thing you've had recently? Chelsea's a thirty bird was on Wednesday. Night was two nights ago. She was born in Nineteen Five. Do some quick math. It's twenty twenty thirty five years. Nineteen eighty five so we opened a bottle of nineteen eighty five Red Burgundy. That was was really special man. It was really good really good and we had colleague Pizza. Even though I know talking about Luke Kelly at Thomas podcast throat a takeout so it's one takeout We've had we had this week where we actually left the department that when I got the pieces I brought it back a fourth straight year. We've done to colleague for Chelsea and her twins birthday and we had a nice bottle red burgundy. So that's Ed are you. Are you drinking wine or just doing gumy's drink want doing it? All I tried to invite you. Seventy was incredible. Yeah it was. It was his. That's the best thing I've had. I'm not as I just. I'm not as adventurous as you. I'm drinking what I what I'm doing. I'm doing a lot of takeout and getting wine from the restaurants and just sort of letting them pick for me which is working. I you know I feel like there are still some people who feel like wine is not approachable. Like it's fancy schmancy. You can get great wine at any at any price. Like oh for sure. I tend to stay away from sort of mass produce stuff. You know. There's a lot of you know smaller producers that make great stop great prices and you know the one thing. I've sort of always when I get into something like I sort of do a deep dive and the wine world is it's endless it is endless. Reputable similar similarly watches deep. It's deep but its way deeper than watches wading. Do you think it's a fair cop to say The wine world is in a in a weird way similar to golf. And that you can have you can have business conversations with people that you can start with a wine conversation and then it can lead into other things in a way that maybe watches is not sure. That's honestly what got me into to wine. I maybe I said this before but watches for me was very singular pursuit. It was it was. It was selfish. I thought who selfish no one else is wearing my watches and I was putting them in a box like that weren't even being used like I didn't make sense to me. Only makes you happy. No one has had those happy. You're wearing that. What line is a connector? Is a connector. And so you know some of you know my favorite conversations my favorite moments with friends or family or even just meeting someone for first time at dinner and you know having a conversation with them. It's it's been with you know why and so that really was a shift for me was like. Oh Yeah. I'm into the saying I like it but it also can be something that sort of bridges and connects people. Why not so? Yeah why off the same way like you go out and you play a force of three people. You don't really know by the end of it. You like best friends. Yeah sure why does definitely a great cortin gift? Yeah I mean listen. I've done some gifting in this quarantine. I give you a nice bottle. You give me a nice bottle but I would say that. It's your point about price point if you said as long as you're not sending somebody just like a piece of shit if you send them something that has that is just good to be doesn't super expensive. They will appreciate it and they will drink it with whoever they're whiz and so you're it is not as it's not a it's not a singular moment but Stephan Smith what do you think about the Donald Sterling Incident. Looking back on it. Shout out to Chris Paul. The and the qube document. Explain what that is. Yes Oh participated in a documentary called a blackballed. That will be out on grabby on Monday. Eighteenth where we sort of look at you know in a microwave. The Donald Sterling incident my first year with the clippers back in two thousand fourteen but then sort of what that meant in the larger context of sports and race in America so I I sat for like two our to our interview. is a B. Roll stuff. I did not know that I was doing to our interview in doing bureau stuff. Silent showed up at this random high school gym Manhattan. Like sweaty need is close on also shit but the documentary. Yeah it's IT'S. It's good man in an excited about it. What did I think about Donald Sterling incident? While you're going to have to watch the sit. Good tease come out again on Monday. The eighteenth it's a great topic for dock it. Is it similar to to sort of you know what Jason Did with the last dance? You know you're focused on ninety seven ninety eight season but you're you're telling that story in the context of sort of the whole history of Michael Jordan's Chicago Bulls and in a way to very different things. Obviously but in a way it is his dock is doing. It's it's looking at this incident but it's looking at sort of the larger meaning and context of this incident in America. You know what I always thought. It's it's probably not substantial enough to be a documentary. But I'd love to see. Revisited is D Andre Obama signing with Dallas moment with with with the memes and everything on twitter like you guys had a lot of stuff with that team just somebody characters on that team. He's a like a great idea. We should do because I feel like. That's like a ten to fifteen minute documentary. It's not just reduce like six to eight of these like random little. Nba Docs. Why not okay. Yeah we'll just do this. We'll just take this offline. I think I think this is just. We should just do okay vic movies speaking of movies Ray Hernandez if there was a movie about you who would play you. I mean. I would want Tom Hardy to play me. I don't know how much she looks like me. He's a little short. Yeah celebrity lookalikes. I mean. I don't feel like I have like a like a slippery look like Gotten Adam Levine. Back when I was in la. When I would think is there. That's a real thing the tattoo in like when I was in la. And I had the high the high tight fade it. Was there a little bit when I was in Orlando? I used to get Freddie Prince Junior. See what's great about passing is that you were still getting that. At probably like he was probably a little bit on the downswing but fragrance judy or late nineties. Oh two thousand was like one of the goats so that the great basin cop to get. Would you summer little tease? But would you put summer catch in your top ten rob calms. Now mustn't top-five Tuck oath put any of the adult like his movies. I just watched. She's all that not a fan She's all not a good number. Not but some are catches is is a great is a great movie. I wouldn't I wouldn't call it a good movie. I would call it a great. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA have to have this out because summer catch is not a Tom. Hardy Tom Hardy playing an NBA player. Actually would be basic story of the two hundred fifteen. Los Angeles Clippers with Tom. Hardy is you. You'll be funny as if we could like somehow get Tom Cruise to play me in a movie. Just because of the way that he like. The way that he moose. I think it would be funny to watch basketball or as top crews sports movie besides wire run he runs. A lot is is yeah. He's insane shape he's just a small guy. I mean that guy. He's not playing an athlete. He gets he could play a coach. Sure who is? Who would you have play me in a blaming? Play you first of all. Nobody wants to move. I would have I would have I. Would I? Wouldn't say Adam Levine. 'cause I don't think he'd be a good actor. Freddie junior is not a relevant enough anymore. The person who use it really WanNa have play you is Timothy Salomon man. That's that's how the movie becomes a hit. If you should beginning again with Mark Ruffalo now is it. New is from like five six years ago but Adam Levine was was a musician it did not not playing himself. I was good. If out can act that he should play. You know like full stops. I'm I'm GonNa Textile Right now. Yes I think. I think that this this could be part of our expert. Doc series is the bio pic. But we have to pick the bio pic with just like specific year. So it's gotta be like it has to be like two thousand sixteen Los Angeles or like a specific year in Orlando can't focus on your career can't focus do any of that. It's just to be a year in life. It's weird to be thirty six and still get asked about gook not as like a like a secondary or tertiary topic with like it's like the singular focus sometimes like an interview like to be asked about Duke. And that's still like a little weird to me. It's a different era. I just a lifetime ago. I think it's weird too especially because you've had this. Nba Career where you literally have made the playoffs every year so if you would play in the NBA for like two years and kind of didn't work out. For whatever reason I would it would make sense but does this a lot of there's a lot to talk about. Nba Wise and so it seems like it's a weird crutch that people fall back on but it also shows you the power and like the fame the fame from college. People still remember it. That's the that's the power of Duke and the power of Coach K. Because like even going back to like the animosity you know in the the hate. That was coming my way like if I was some shit had at Wisconsin or in some packed wells school. I don't think it would have been on the same level. I don't think if you're a Florida the exact same career Florida. You would not have even close to the same level of now. Do College Basketball Coach K. It's all very synonymous with each other. So it's like that's the identifier. Because I was there and I was a bit of a lightning Rod. It is weird though because like take for example. You guys are similar ages. Joe Keam had Super Successful College. Career won two championships was certainly a lightning. Rod was when he was in college but nobody ever talks to him about. Yeah needed a great. Mba too but like no one. It's just not a thing that irritates juice chips. You don't even think about right. It's not the first thing I would bring up with Joe Ken. Yeah maybe maybe if I had Joel Joel Love. We joke about the by like I would. I don't even know that. Bring up. Florida Horford the same way. I wish there was a question I don't. This is the thing that I struggle sometimes is trying to explain to the average fan just how good in NBA players because now relative relativity matters. Worse like you know the thirteenth or Fourteenth Guy. Compared to superstar sure with superstars. You know better right not to say the thirteenth or fourteenth guys sucks or fit geyer the seventh guy or the second guy. It doesn't make sense but then I think to myself well. There's a lot of people that like hate on the Bra. You know it's like. Can you really hate them abroad like you can hate on? Maybe a decision he may to leave. Cleveland maybe that's like as a player I just don't Oh man like people skip bayless. They're just saying things for attention attention. That's what it is and the Internet. I wish there was a question that could like get me into the space where I could explain just how good every NBA player is to watch like just like to come to a practice if your average fan and to a practice and like watch team play second team and watch the guys working out beforehand guys playing one on one afterwards. The guys were under Games afterwards. Like just like Oh of this guy doesn't suck at all actually. Yeah but this is what you're talking about. Is You can make the argument about this criticism in general across the board in every industry like I I don't I don't Chris as criticism is fine. I'm fine with criticism. That's not what I'm saying. I guess I think there's a disconnect like with people thinking a players not good. That's like that's weird to be. Yeah I make sense to me out the the example I was going to bring up is M night on who you know. He's every he's he's heading. He's had like an incredible career grow. And and but he's a guy that's like he's had a few movies that have just gotten like universally panned and panned by fans panned by critics. He thinking you've talked about it with with you a little bit. He's a STOIC. So does none of that. But that's the thing where it's like you look at the technical craft of filmmaking. There is almost nobody on the planet who is better than him just does a from a straight up like there's no better than that doesn't mean that everything. He does works all the time but it basically the society that we're in people and they're allowed to do it. It's fine it's like this is it's why the thing that I'm always interested in is like how you guys blocked this stuff out. And how he blocks it out because part of why I ask. This is to me. The most sensitive people on planet earth or members of the media who if they get criticized or anyone says anything about them they literally can't ignore it they do not know how to ignore it and so it's impressive. It's impressive to assume that he'd even want to have the conversation but like I think about it with like somebody like Zion always asked them. It's like he's eighteen years old and he has something in his mind that allows him to block out anything on the Internet. That he doesn't care about he just doesn't care. Lonzo's the same way. That's that's impressive. Because most people are not like that. Yeah I think everybody were all the questions Get Weird if you want for the next mailbag episode. We'll have a guest on Next week and really appreciate you guys listening. Zenica questions is always Tommy At now stay safe. Send US SOME CENTERS. Some stuff to watch and eat and everything. We're just sitting around. So we appreciate all the feedback. The Tommy. You're week Brownie recipes. Please his I made some cookies yesterday. That are credible man.

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The Bever Family Murders

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The Bever Family Murders

"Welcome to murder minute today the story of the bevere brothers but first your true crime headlines a Pennsylvania man has said to police that God told told him that it was Judgment Day and that he should kill his children twenty-seven-year-old Damian corn was arrested and charged with two felonies and three misdemeanors after threatening a woman and a young child at a Holiday Holiday Inn Express in Chambers Berg Pennsylvania the woman called police and said that corn had threatened to cut her up blow her up and that the children were going to heaven with him she told police but corn placed her face down on Palo struck her on the back of the head and strangled her. When police arrived she had bruises on her face and neck corn was taken into custody and booked into Franklin County jail where he was unable to post twenty five thousand dollars bail Damian corn was charged with aggravated assault against a child under six strangulation and other related charges? A popular instagram personality was murdered by a man she met online who then shared grizzly photos of the murder on social media seventeen year old Bianca Devon's met met her killer online a few months ago she chatted with twenty one year old Brandon Clark and their relationship progressed into a cursory intimate one according to police on the night that she was murdered. Devon's and Clark travelled together to a concert in New York City at the concert Devon shared a kiss with another man which apparently enraged Clark and led to an argument on the drive home and eventually to Bianca's murder Clark posted gory photos of the murder on his instagram account along with a message reading. I'm sorry Bianca the photos were widely shared on instagram four Chan and discord some concerned users contacted police to report the gruesome images and police began searching for Clark Clark himself called nine one one early Sunday morning to report his crime. When police arrived at the scene gene they found Clark standing by Green Tarp which was covering Bianca Devon's body he laid down on the Tarp stabbed himself in the neck and took sell fees next to Bianca's body before police took him into custody? Clark was transported to a nearby hospital where he was treated and later released and booked into jail on second degree murder charges nine years ago Brandon Clark's father Jason Held Brandon's mother hostage in ten hour standoff with police holding her at knifepoint and threatening to slit her throat and kill himself Brandon Clark was twelve years old at the time Jason Clark spoke to police after his sons arrest apologizing to Bianca's family and acknowledging that there was dysfunction in Brandon's childhood a twenty seven year old husband and father confessed to the rape and murder of American scientists Suzanne Eaten who vanished while jogging on the Greek girl of Crete on July second eaten fifty nine was a molecular biologist who was visiting crease to attend a conference. She left her hotel room around two P._M.. To go for a dog and was spotted by local farmer Yanni's Paris caucus who struck her twice with his car and then placed her in the trunk he drove her unconscious us to an abandoned World War Two bunker where he raped her and left her for dead. Her body was found by cave explorers six days later she had been stabbed suffocated and one of her ears had been cut off Paris caucus confessed to police during questioning telling them that he had been out looking for any woman that he could rape and kill and that he sometimes felt the urge to harm someone he is being held on on charges of rape and murder and local authorities are now investigating his possible involvement in other crimes in the area the house where Leno and Rosemary Labianca were murdered murdered nearly fifty years ago by the followers of Charles Manson is now for sale the listing for the house at three three one one waverly drive describes the property as a classic nineteen twenties is lost Fellas single-story home with two bedrooms and one and a half bathrooms and features a swimming pool expansive yard and breathtaking views of Los Angeles. The listing does not directly mention the brutal murderers that took place in the home on August tenth nineteen sixty nine but the agents notes include instructions to please research before showing under California law. The owner of a property only has to disclose a a death on the property. If it occurred within three years of the purchase the listing agent said that interest in the property was extremely high and that it has been so long since the crime that it is a non issue for most people the Law Bianca's more slaughtered by the Manson family just one day after they killed actress Sharon Tate and three others at Tate's rented home in Benedict Canyon eleven miles away that at home changed hands several times after the murder before finally being demolished in nineteen ninety four those are your true crime headlines for drew crime any time download the murder minute APP or follow us on Instagram at murder minute up next the bevere family massacre but first a quick break. 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They were never allowed to play with the neighborhood kids and appeared to have few friends or acquaintances in fact many any neighbors had no idea of their names or how many children the buffers actually had the bevere home seemed quiet on the outside but inside the family was troubled. David Bevere was a violent husband and he an April were angry volatile even abusive parents the beverage managed to hide most of their domestic violence behind closed doors for eighteen years but on the quiet night of July Twenty Second Twenty fifteen around eleven thirty P._M.. Dispatchers received nine one one call from 709 Magnolia Corp in Broken Arrow the Levers House the coal came from Daniel Their twelve year old son he begged and pleaded with the dispatcher how help my brothers attacking the family in the background fighting and commotion could be heard then no Michael. No the line went dead the nine one one dispatcher quickly traced the call and sent out a patrol car to check on the House as police approached they noticed that something was wrong. They could see blood smeared across the front porch with with their hands twitching toward their holsters. The officers carefully approached the front door and knocked a voice came from inside a cry for help. The officers kicked down the door and burst into the bevere home home. What they saw their feet was thirteen year old crystal bevere she was bleeding her body covered in stab wounds fighting for her life? The officers officers lifted crystallised carefully as they could and carried her out of the House radioing for by her back inside police found David Bevere age fifty two and April bevere forty four both dead their bodies covered in dozens of stab wounds. David had been stabbed twenty eight times April forty-eight then they found the Children Daniel Bevere had been stabbed nine times seven year old Christopher had been stabbed six times Victoria still only five years old had been stabbed all over her her body eighteen stab wounds to her neck chest and back crystal bevere was rushed to the hospital but not before she identified her brothers as the family assailants. It's the moment the police arrived. The brothers ran out of the back door and into the forest behind the house. The only member of the bevere family who survived untouched was two year old baby autumn who was still asleep in her room. The police called in a canine unit who tracked down the brothers with ease. The teenagers were dragged out of the dirt and gave themselves up without incident strangely. The boys looked to be wearing what appeared to be soft body armor as more and more units arrived on the scene and the beverage brothers were taken back to the patrol vehicles. One officer recalled sixteen year old Michael Emotionless and STOIC saying I hope there okay the neighbors who hardly knew the bever family at all watched as the horrific scene unfolded on their front lawns when Robert and Michael Bevere were brought into the police station for questioning. The two boys were separated did sixteen year old Michael Bevere was taken into an interrogation room where cameras were rolling an officer read him his rights. Michael agreed to wave them and started started talking. The brothers had been planning the murders for months according to Michael. It was all roberts idea. The two boys shared a room in the the house they also shared a fascination with mass murderers and serial killers Michael said that when Robert I started telling him that he wanted to kill their family he didn't take his brother seriously that was until he saw Robert Begin buying body armor and knives on Ebay Robert told Michael that he thought society was pointless and that he wanted to be a famous famous mass murderer Roberts goal was to beat the kill rates of other famous mass murderers like the Columbine school shooters who killed thirteen and James Holmes who murdered twelve at a movie theater in Colorado Arado Michael told police that he didn't really believe that his brother ever intended to follow through with it but that'll changed on June thirtieth twenty fifteen when eighteen year old Robert However realized that he could legally purchase guns online from that moment on every night in their room. The two brothers carefully plotted not only the murder of their parents and siblings but a killing spree that would span several states a rampage that would break records and make them both famous now that Robert was sure that Michael was in he purchased more knives lives for his brother helmets and body armor to match his and the two began gradually throwing away their old toys and clothes anything. They didn't need to make room in their closet for all the body armor. And Weapons The guns let Robert Purchased online would be shipped to a local gun shop where the boys could pick them up when they were ready. The Ammunition Nisshin Robert purchased would be shipped to the bevere family home. The plan Michael Said was first to stab their parents and siblings to death instead of shooting them because it was quieter. The boys carefully divided between themselves who would kill who because it would be faster then they would put the bodies in the attic. Take the family car. You're pick up the guns and drive toward Washington state. Stopping gas stations and rest stops murdering as many people as they could at random it was all about the kill rate Michael Michael explained fifty or more to be the new record holders Robert Hope to kill over a hundred when Robert Checked the tracking information for the nearly three eight thousand rounds of ammunition that he ordered to the house. The boys realized that they needed to kill their entire family the day before the boxes arrived so that their parents wouldn't discover the packages the the bevere brothers had chosen a date July twenty second but when the time came Michael said nothing went according to plan I didn't WanNa do that. I shouldn't have done that Michael told police. I didn't like it. The minute it started. It started that night when their sister thirteen year old crystal came upstairs to the boys boys room to tell them that their mother wanted them to do the dishes that's when the brothers told her to look at something on Michael's computer and when she walked over to the desk Robert came up behind her and slit her throat Robert Bevere told police that he believed that she would die silently and was surprised to hear her scream Robert kept stabbing her. It was crystal still screams that alerted their mother crystal managed to run out of the room. All the way out the front of the House as Robert chased her with knife. Their mother screamed when she saw crystal. Oh Oh my God oh my God as she ran out the front door crystal noticed that she had an organ hanging out of her stomach. I kind of just held it with my hand. Crystal told detectives that she passed out on on the front lawn and woke to find herself being dragged back inside by her brother leaving the trail of blood that would soon prompt police to kick in their door. She could hear her other siblings screaming. That's when I realized what was happening. Crystal later told detectives they were trying to kill everyone. Most Michael and Robert admit to then stabbing their mother according to Michael it was their mothers screams to call the police that drew their father out as their mother and crystal lay bleeding to death Robert stabbed their father. It was around this. It's time that Michael went looking for twelve year old Daniel he found him hiding in his room with Michael's own cellphone quietly crying making the critical and heartbreaking nine one one call which would ultimately bring the police to the door Michael snatched the phone from Daniel and smashed everything was going wrong. Daniel and seven year old Christopher Ran Daniel new locked himself in their fathers office. Christopher locked himself in the bathroom. Michael told police that in order to get his younger brothers he pleaded for their help help Roberts after me he begged they opened the doors during his police interview Michael maintained that during the incident he only stabbed his mother wants and his brother Christopher twice when an officer asked what his little brother Christopher ever did to him. Michael said nothing it was pointless. He said that is Christopher lay screaming on the floor of the bathroom next to the toilet. He decided that he didn't want to murder anyone when asked by investigators why he followed through with the murders if he didn't want to do it. He said that Robert had told him if I didn't do it with him then he would just kill me to. He just wanted to be famous. When the brothers heard a knock at the front door they ran out the back of the house and into the woods as the sound of sirens approached Michael recalled that has they hid in the woods Robert asked him? How many did you get? I told him three Michael Said but I only stabbed Christopher and my mom Michael then recalled feeling relief when he saw police carrying his two year old sister autumn out of the house unharmed when asked why they're two year old sister wasn't injured. Michael said that Robert must have forgotten about her or that may be Robert Thought that Michael had killed her Robert told Broken Arrow detectives actives that he had planned to cut off baby autumn's head with a hatchet as Michael Bevan told his version of events in one room of the police station that early morning of July twenty third his brother Robert was in the other room bragging two detectives that he had been planning to kill his parents. Since he was thirteen years old. He explained that he had gotten a job at a call center in order to earn the money to purchase knives body armor helmets. It's guns and ammunition Roberts said that he liked guns because his parents hated them. He told detectives that he and his brother Michael had planned to cut up the bodies and store them in tubs in the attic. They had also planned to make two videos one with the bodies for the police and another without that could be posted on Youtube Robert said that he admired serial killers and believed that if he killed more than one person it would make him god-like Robert explained to the detective -tective that killing was not a bad thing and that he always thought about doing it. Robert believed that if he killed enough people he would eventually kill one who was not contributing to society and that would. Be a good thing he believed that he and his brother could kill a hundred people without anyone even missing them. Detectives listened disturbed as Robert Laughed and chuckled to his story at times they noted he even seemed excited. When their sister crystal was interviewed by detectives in the Hospital Crystal told them that her brothers had talked for over over a year about wanting to kill their family and steal their money? She said they told her that they admired mass shooters and said that they wished more of them got away with their crimes. Crystal Crystal said her brothers told her there were too many people in the world when crystal told her parents what her brother Said and that Robert bought body armor. She said her mother replied boys being boys. Their fathers response was that the boys we're wasting their money crystal also confirmed that the children and their mother were abused by their father for years she told detectives that David Bevere tightly controlled the family home schooling the children keeping them away from others and that her father would sometimes throw the children across the room when he was angry she also recalled the fight between between her parents where she witnessed her father. Throw her mother and hit her head against the wall. She then remembered her parents talking about having been too rough on Robert and Michael when they were younger <music> Robert and Michael Bevere were arraigned in court on August Third Twenty fifteen local authorities called the killings the worst single criminal event in broken Arrow history. The boys pleaded not guilty to the charges filed against them and a preliminary hearing was set for October twenty eighth and then later to January twenty second and then changed again to February wary twenty-third 2016 on June seventeenth Robert Beverage attempted suicide by hanging with a bedsheet Tulsa County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman Casey Roebuck said that the suicide attempt was discovered by detention officer medical staff cut him down and determined that he was uninjured. He was then moved to suicide. Watch on July twenty fifth authorities announced that Michael Bevere would be charged as an adult in Oklahoma first degree murder carries the punishment of life imprisonment or the death penalty however the Tulsa Tulsa County District Attorney said that Michael Bevan would be exempt from a death sentence since he was under eighteen at the time of the murders Michael's attorney argued against the constitutionality of the decision stating dating than Michael would die in prison and that that is the same as a death sentence he also argued that Michael beverage should be rehabilitated instead of imprisoned if he was physically and emotionally abused at home they also attempted to argue that Robert Bevere was the mastermind and that he had led his younger brother astray the brothers were tried separately Robert Bevere pleaded guilty guilty to all five counts of murder and received a life sentence without the possibility of parole in twenty eighteen three years after the murders Michael Bevere was tried as an adult michaels lawyers attempted an insanity defense arguing that it was his older brother Robert who had coerced Michael into helping him. They argued that in an abusive home where the children were isolated their whole lives quote Robert became more than just a brother more than just a mentor he became Michael's Whole World Robert Bevere took the stand in his brothers trial and when shown a photo of one of the bloodied murder weapons Robert broke down into tears. That's a lot of blood. He sobbed. I'm sorry I don't know what I was thinking. Robert then told the courtroom that he is now on medication and has been diagnosed with a major depressive disorder P._T._S._d.. And borderline personality disorder according to witnesses in the courtroom Michael never looked at his brother crystal bevere gave her testimony by Closed Circuit T._v. from a nearby courtroom to spare her from having to see her brother other she wore pink sweater her scars visible on her arms and her neck crystal testified that she hadn't actually seen her brother Michael Stab anyone she did recall all that while Robert was attacking her she could hear her mother screaming and concluded that it was possible that Michael was stabbing their mother at the time Michael sitting behind the T._v.. Listening unable to see his sister wiped tears from his eyes as crystal described waking up in the hospital and asking if their parents were okay Michael Bevere received five consecutive life sentences with the possibility of parole half of the twelve jurors Michael Beverage trial sent the judge a letter asking that Michael get the chance to go free one day with five consecutive life sentences it it is unlikely that Michael Bevan will ever be released. I don't understand what happened. Michael said I wake up in the middle of the night and look over thinking that I'm going to ask one of my little brothers a question even three years later. I can't believe that it actually happened over the years the broken Arrow community came together to collect funds to deal with the bevere house in the hopes of demolishing it and creating a park they hoped hoped enough money could be raised to purchase the house from the beverage mortgage holder and lending company in two thousand seventeen. The house burned down mysteriously on the land where at once stood the city council council built the Beverage Family First Responders Memorial Park It on March twenty seventh twenty nineteen reflection park was dedicated in an official ceremony. A path now meanders to a nollet grass where the bevere house once stood in prison Michael Bevan kept a red composition notebook in which he drew childlike pictures of death and swastikas and crown and a stick figure drawing of cold leader. Jim Jones calling him his hero among the drawings was a story once upon a time there were brothers named Michael and Robert the hated their family.

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"You went up. Personal comes back. Clock that passion, but it as much. Whatever lives in the ground sometime. The Indians knew that they stopped using that barrel round the ground Sala. Don't think about Louis place goods holier place is evil. Now planes pet cemetery retrospective series stanks giving for cats only if they came back from the part of the now playing Stephen King movie series to pets. Remember them seem scary hosted by Arnie. Stewart should things be fine. And Jacob spunk. You get ni-. Join us at now playing Bach gas dot com each week for a new installment of this series and keep coming back as we continue looking at all the movies based on the writings of Stephen King. Not fire story and join Arne at books and not Joes dot com for indepth reviews of all of Stephen king's books and short stories. Really sad. These podcasts contain detailed, blood, boilers, and harsh language. Thank you. Introducing that colorful phrase into my daughter's calculator listener discretion is advised. Came a night. Pay. Today. We're discussing pet cemetery starring Jason Clark, Amy cements and John Lithgow directed by Kevin Cole and Dennis whitmire. This is Arnie coast of now playing back from the pet cemetery for another review in the series and Stewart and the host that don't want to be buried in a pet cemetery. Jacob I thought we were done I thought Edward furlong head done. What? No or not coach truck could do and killed the franchise dead. Nobody was going to resurrect it. And yet here we are paramount and debone venture pictures decided now's the time for a new pet cemetery. Yeah. Kings hot again because of it. Yeah. We got to put this on penny wise. Right. I mean that first chapter of it was so huge. I think it's the biggest horror movie of all time. The gross was enormous of three hundred million. Plus, so I was excited. I'm gonna go ahead and say purse. Finally, I was excited. I thought you know, this is the time to do a renaissance on king. It'll usher in a whole new endearment for his work. And we'll get good directors working on his projects again and bringing them to the screen and books that I loved will. Now, get the movies that they deserved that was pretty much how I felt walking out of it and a year later, I was all over. There was two things that happen one. I watched the whole season of Castle Rock, and it just never got better. I don't know if you guys dried I going to try before we get to it and things, but I haven't I've heard good things I heard them. And then I saw what I saw. And it was a lot of talented people in a meandering story that really wasn't very scary or intriguing or twin peaks or anything, and it just no just felt like a Jj Abrams surprise box that I wanted to return to sender. And then I read a novel. He wrote last year the outsider, which starts out great. It felt like it for the Trump era. There was so much about it that felt timely and classic at the same time. And I'm like, I love this. And then, you know, all goes to hell in the last two hundred pages. And of course, the novel is like eight hundred pages law. Hey, if you listen to my books and not shows from the early days kings had problems with endings. Yeah. They haven't improved. So I'm not saying I'm not excited anymore, but it grounded me. Yeah. You're saying, oh, they're going to get hot directors to do these films. This has to directors don't know either of them. Yeah. I bit the bullet before this review because I feel like I needed someone needed to vet who these guys were. And why would these two Kevin Koelsch and Dennis whitmire? Don't know them from anybody. How did they get this gig a gig that keep in mind, we talked about it on the first show? Steven king was so protective of this. He only would allow them to make his script verbatim. Why is he letting totally random people make something they must have made something really incredible. Right. Well, if they did I didn't watch it what I watched was there two thousand fourteen indie horror movie starry is if feels like what a lot of horror movies feel like to me these days of retro love fest. Let's layer it with a John carpenter school or it will make it look like the cinematography in Rosemary's, baby. And we'll do all these retro things to make you think it's a seventies eighties throwback. The whole plot felt kind of like a David Lynch. I'm on the lost highway heading Mahal and Dr actress try. To understand her part and make it in Hollywood, kind of psycho horror didn't leave much impression at all. I certainly didn't look at that. And thank Yep. These are the people that need to be making major Hollywood films, and like we talked about last week with Sam though, sometimes you find the up and comers who worked cheap and have a passion for the project. And this was a script that was kicked around Hollywood for awhile. It's already been made. I mean, I'm saying this new script. Yeah. I don't know. How much new is in there? We'll talk. Why do this again, if you noticed there were three writing credits at the start of this movie based on the novel by Stephen King, and then screen story by somebody? And he's the one who had a script that I think have the changes we're going to talk about. And then they brought in another writer because the directors had some concerns about that script as there was the screenplay credit by different than the screen story different from the original story novel. So it gets a little bit confusing. I have immersed myself into the press junkets and everything I could find out about this have they said, then why if it was this huge thing biggest horror movie ever keying has so much material. Why go to this one? Again, why not do something new even I mean? Yeah. That had a TV show. But then they made it into a film. It seems like there's a lot of material pet cemetery seems like a weird one to remake not really it's one of his bestselling novels. It's one of the ones people hold up even before. For the eighty nine movie and say, this is one of his best books. It's the one he never wanted have publish. I'm starting thinking creative impulses might be a little off kilter sometimes. But I mean, he says this movie is anti quote fucking great this one that we're gonna talk about today. Yes. Okay. They must have stuck to his notes that he gave them then I honestly wonder and this is conspiracy theory, and I hate it. When I read this on the internet and conspiracy theory like Marvel's paying critics to slam reviews, but I honestly got wonder after so many movies. If there's a Stephen King gives you a positive quote writer like they bump an extra zero on is pay. He's got something invested in this. If you like this movie, you'll go buy that book, and we're book sailed more royalties for him conflict of interest there. But usually I go the opposite way of king. If he loves the film, that's a warning sign to me. There wasn't a whole lot of talk about why peds cemetery other than it had already been in discussion even before. For it. And once it happened. Obviously, I am Egede. We are in for a new children of the corn new silver, whoever has rights to something named king. I'm calling it now Mangla theatrical reboot. I think the reason why we're not getting the new Mangla or or something like that is because they want to go to the most well known titles and pet cemeteries weird. Because a lot of people do like that first movie a lot of people feel like you don't need to remake that one because it holds up. I don't think we ended up feeling strongly about that. I felt like I liked it in childhood and coming back to it. I felt a lot about it was silly. But yeah of all the ones that they screwed up or the ones that I feel like could come back stronger pet cemetery wouldn't be on the top of my list, but I can understand why Hollywood they look at the ones that made money pet cemetery made sixty million dollars. So let's do the hit you know, other than the shining. I don't know that there's any Stephen King movie we've reviewed or that I've seen that. I don't think could be made better upon reboot. I like pet cemetery. I like the original one quite a bit. But it had flaws huge a lot of them were acting related. Yeah. The production value. I mean, it was a five million production with. That actors so yes, they can absolutely do better a second time, but how much room will they give to really rework king. I mean, there were problems with the novel. There were things that I would want to see completely redone as far as I can tell this is mostly Gus van Zandt psycho remake with one. Big twist, they stupidly spoiled in the second trailer advertising this movie, I have no idea why they told us Ellie was going to die. Instead of gauge I think they had to tell you, look, we're doing something different. Because I took my wife to go see this with me. She had not seen the trailers. And this movie starts, and she's like, oh, this is this a shot for shot remake a Mike. No. There's a big twist coming up. I feel like like we gotta do something different in. So let's reveal that this isn't the same movie that came out in the ninety s the directors thought the trailers gave away too much. Yes. And I think that that would have been a wonderful surprise. Yes. Stephen King was consulted on the change and signed off on it ahead of. Time to be clear. I'm not talking about whether I liked what they did to the material. But if that is your biggest change, you don't tell people before they walk into the movie, I mean, unless you're going to take it in a radically different direction. After that point. I don't know why you would spoil the one thing that surprising in Stewart. I did think it was going to go in a different direction. I then I'm like, oh, they're going to reveal this. I remembered something you guys talked about a windy go or something some Indian monster that roam the woods. I'm like, oh, every gonna get that in this film. Are they gonna show us that I don't remember if that showed up in the book or not 'cause I'd never read it? It did make me think someone who had read the book that doesn't have a lot of love for that nineties. Okay. Maybe they are going to do something totally different with this film because they're showing me that change. And I know people got mad about that change. There were conspiracy theories around why the change people were mad about John Lithgow delivery of sometimes dead is better. They're like, no. It's gotta be herb in Munster delivering that line. Yes. It does. I'm just going to say right now that line if you like. Anything about that movie? It's gotta be Fred Gwynne, and it is going to be hard for lift Goto stead in Fred Gwynne shadow and sometimes dead is better by Fred Wynn. The best they could do is just not use the line because it's kind of like, the reason no spider-man's McGuire has actually said with great power was great responsibility. They into at it. But they don't say it. I think sometimes dead is better. Maybe should've just said sometimes it might be better. If you stay dead hit just don't go toe to toe with win. Because in this case, you're going to lose. But obviously, I think the guy who played Lewis and actor whose name I don't even remember, and I don't see much and Denise Crosby, the only one who really rocked that movie other than Fred Gwynne was the boy who played gauge and the cat. The cat was good. But I saw that trailer. I was mad that they spoiled it having seen the movie fuck that trailer because it really I wonder what I would have thought if I hadn't seen it. Absolutely. I just one of really underlying fire every ad executive. That worked on that film. What a fuck up. Why why are you guys so upset about this? I'm not the fan of the book. I'm not a king fan. So for me, and whatever. So why are you guys fans of king? Lease so upset by that. Well, the preview seven my thoughts. The movie is not exactly the most exciting and something that would have made a real shock would've woken me up. I agree completely is that it's at the point where I wanted the film to get on with it. I knew it was going to be Elliott who died, and so I feel like a lot of this is a remake of the first one with needless. Minor changes to preview my thoughts. I think this film feels like it standing in the shadow of the eighty nine film with a lot of references to it. And a lot of Amish is to it that I don't really think are necessarily deserved. I think they could have gone totally on their own. But they feel like they're remaking classic and have to pay some tribute to that down to the remake of the song at the end of the credits. We'll talk about so bad. Oh, terrible. I think that that. Could have shocked me out of my checking the boxes of what's happening and gone. Oh shit. What's happening next? That could have really gotten me. The other thing about the trailers. That didn't excite me though. We've talked about him a couple times. And he's so forgetful, I may have already had this conversation. But Jason Clark. I don't understand. Why people hire him? He's a complete blank to me. He's neither attractive nor unattractive. Neither muscular nor scrawny. Neither good nor bad. He is like white toast actor well that could be what you're going for. I mean, if you're wanting the average American I think, that's what he encapsulate. I think he's a good actor. He doesn't have movie star. Looks is the problem. He really probably does better work on stage. I'm going to bet. But yeah, there's just something about him. That's kind of unappealing as a leading man. He was a terrible John Connor that was total miscast. I don't blame anyone for that movie. But yes, he does not have the kind of charisma that's going to turn something around. But he could definitely do better. Dale midkiff? See I think it's exactly the same. I think he's today's deal Midkiff. Now, not that he's as bad an actor. He's just as bland. I mean bland is fine. When you're selling the average American family bland is what you're going for. And I think that's kind of how to think of the creeds. Now, all of this said how excited where you going into this film? I was really excited with the first trailer. I really was and then the second trailer came and I wasn't against it. I was like that's interesting. I wanna see where it goes. But the more they did trailers and the more. I watched interviews with people. I went in a little tepid leg. I'm hoping that this is as good as it. I'll be happy if it's just an improvement on the original pet cemetery. But I'm trying to put out in my mind, and this is very hard. What would I think it is movie? If I'd never read the book if I'd never seen that first movie. I'll tell you I've seen that first movie. I don't recall a whole lot of it. Never read the book seen the trailers. The first one it's just kids with animal masks, beating the drums. I'm like you're going for spooky, but you're trying to little bit too hard here. But my hopes were it was just going to be a scary movie. I don't care if it stuck to the book or not I don't care about the twist revealed in that second trailer. I just wanted to scary movie. That's what I was hoping for going in. Again. I said it on the first podcast if they could make a good version with good acting that no one would ever need to go back to the original. And so that was my hope about what they were delivering. But I can't say that. There was anything ever in any trailer that gave me the indication that the look of the film or the cast anything about it captured something that was particularly spooky or got under my skin. It just it looked very familiar with the change in trailer to that. I knew they were killing the daughter and those kids in the animal masks, I really wondered how different it was going to be. I was very curious. Or is there going to be like a kid called is this like children of the pet cemetery? Gary. What are we going to have? Spoiler alert. The kids me nothing. It's just one scene of kids in creepy masks. But I thought it might be something new and original. So I went in knowing that this was not going to supplant the original the original really was an adaptation of king's novel. But what's it going to do? Then to stand a part from king's novel. Was there anybody in your theater? I would say mine was about a third full because this is coming out late. I went on a Sunday morning for showing. And yeah, it was about half full. I was surprised it was more full than I thought for for showing on Sunday. I went on a Saturday afternoon. Four fifty showing, you know, that's usually a weird time to go. Anyway, it was almost sold out Marjorie decided to come late. And it was lucky the seat next to me was still open strangely. A young audience in front of me was a gaggle of like six fourteen year old girls. Oh, we had a family sitting next to us with a small child that kid starts crying. If this scary. I'm gonna be pissed. I was wondering how fourteen year olds. Going to take to this, especially when they were cooing over Tom Holland. Flash screen in the avengers endgame trailer. I just wanna know how soon their phones came out. That's going to tell me how bored. They were. It was about a half hour. And I watched the final part of this film under the glow of them texting. Each other. I'm shocked took that log that may not be a comment on the movie that may be a comment on generation. I don't know. Why don't we just stick to the movie Arnie give them the plot again? And we'll dig up pets Metairie. I'm going to be honest. I cut and paste the briefs wanted change some stuff. Of course, you did which Ellie forbade. In fact, a couple of cases the words, I changed were underline because I just copied and pasted names for my MD in pet cemetery. Jason Clark plays Louis creed. A doctor who recently relocated his family to Maine. So he can work at the university. He picked it new home for his family. That's nearly perfect. Save for the two lane highway in front of the house where orange code trucks speed past all day. Oh, and the fact that on their fifty acre lot lies a pet cemetery. Where kids go? To bury their dead cats dogs, fish, whatever. And when they do they have a funeral procession where they literally beat on a drum and wear creepy animal masks there across the street neighbor Judd, played by John Lithgow becomes friends with the creeds and takes a special liking, but not in a creepy way. To the creeds grade school age daughter Ellie played by Gitane Lawrence so on Halloween when the family cat churches hitting the road. Judd leads Louis past the pet cemetery further into the woods to a native American burial ground there. Louis various, the cat, and as the nursery rhyme goes the cat came back the very next day alive, but altered vicious and carrying a horrible stench with him L E seems to know something's wrong with the cat, especially when Klaus her arm and his adder. Plus, the cat's hair is matted with blood really observant that Ellie give the bath. That's what I was wondering just watch it. Lewis can't bring himself to kill the feline. So he takes the cat far from the house to get rid of it telling his daughter church ranch. Way. But as the song goes, the cat came back and Ellie was so happy to see the animals. She ran into the road degreed it and was struck and killed by a speeding truck. The family is grief stricken, especially Lewis's wife. Rachel played by Andy cements who has long harbored a phobia of death fostered by childhood events involving a dumb waiter and the death of her muscular school roses. Suffering older sisters Zelda and a dumb waiter. Did I mention a dumb, wait? Is dumped Stewart's trying to keep it in. So Rachel and their young son gauge, go to stay with Rachel's. Parents and Boston, but Louis stays in Ludlow where against judge advice. He exudes the body of his dead daughter and reburied Ellie in the native American grounds. These events bring about the ghost of Victor, PASCAL, a college student who died from a car accident that Lewis was unable to save played by Odessa Ahmed Pasco had tried in vain to ward Lewis away from the cemetery failing in that regard. He appears to gauge dreams and whispers and Rachel's ear until she engaged drive back to Maine, the daughter does return, but with a penchant for death. She is obsessed with her own resurrection seemingly working in tandem with the undead feline church. Ellie first ambushes and kills Judd when Rachel returns, she realizes the zombie is an abomination so Elliott kills Rachel and buries her in the cemetery. Louis tries to re kill his daughter, but is stabbed in the back by his resurrected wife zombie Ellie. Zombie. Rachel berry Louis, so he comes back and the three dead closing on gauge who's helpless and trapped inside Rachel's car as credits roll. And when they start they also begin on that car, we get a bird's eye view of the farmhouse the creed property as it swoops in teasing. I guess what we think we know about the story there's little tiny bloody handprints on the car door. Something clearly been dragged inside the front, and we might think that that's all the handiwork of little gauge the murdering zombie kid. Yeah. I definitely thought it was an interesting choice to start with bloody footprints, bloody handprints and things I think it would take a lot of reflection or a second viewing to really drive home. That this is what happened after gauge got killed. I got that we reflect on movies more than I think the teenage girls in front of me do because we go over notes and things I wouldn't put it together. Normally I wouldn't have remembered that was the opening shots. I would have thought it started with them coming in their car. I figured this was a flash forward. I mean, we see Judd's house on fire. That would seem like a weird opening. I did thing. I'm like if this is the opening of this star. They just got a tire fire going on across the street. And then I see the blood. I'm like, okay. This is then we're gonna jump back and see the family. Okay. That's foreshadowing just wish that either they would have shown us the scene again at the end or the scene would have been like not after the final scene the way TV. Usually does it is they give you the cliff hanger like the way mission impossible three and four. Did it? You see seemed in the middle. And then you come back to the beginning. And you get to that middle. And then you finish it off. That's what I would have liked this to Aben. But no, we got the family coming up this time from Baston. Nobody has an accident in this movie despite coming from vast into Maine. So really my suspension of disbelief is already tenuous. I'm sorry. I family in Boston. And maine. I say those accents with love, you know. But the acting is better. We can all agree. Right. When we do meet the same -ly. We're not wincing at the line readings were not paying by their lack of a motion or the way that they lay it on thick. I hated LA in the original movie and here, she's obviously the focus they referred to her. As elephant the great interior -able, which is a callback to the ways Zelda was described in the novel. I noticed the L E later on in the film when she's as ambi- it gets called the great and terrible. I don't remember it at the beginning. I feel like that should have been set up a little bit more than ironic nickname. It was there. I missed it. The first time it wasn't there enough? I don't know why she's called that. But yeah, exactly show me why she's call that just say it for half a second. And then reference later in the film, it was a wizard of Oz reference. Actually, it was. The great and terrible was the nickname of actual the wizard Oz. But it didn't make sense except is four shadowing for where the film was going to go. I'm going to call it out right now. Clark is fine. Cements is good. But Gitane Lawrence is amazing in this film. You did not like Elian the first film. I don't recall having a huge problem with her. But she could be improved upon. I take it. You didn't go back and watch the film. I did she's horrible. She's not ruinous. Yes. But Gitane Lawrence here. I feel when watching this the way I felt when seeing Jennifer Lawrence in winter's bone like this is an actress who can really make something of herself. She has a mazing presence both as a little girl and design be girl later on that. I liked I was wondering I checked the last name. She's not a fanning. She looks like he's got that other worldly, I'm only eleven years old, but I act like a thirty year old woman quality. Where I thought for sure she was, but she's not she's the Lawrence. Another Jennifer Lawrence. He's just a kid. That's hasn't worked much. But I think she's going to work a lot. I agree. I think she is really giving an incredibly nuanced performance, and what's become the pivotal family role. She has a lot of weight on her shoulders, this movie would make or break on casting that role of you did these plot twist with the last time the movie would be MSG three K laughable. Yeah. Just a flash forward. I feel like they made this change. So they can have an actor that would be old enough to actually do something as ambi- create some dread. We'll talk about it. There's difference between a little baby killing you. And then. Yeah, this nine year old child. That's able to kind of reflect on where she's been which I really did like her when she comes back to the Zone B and her performance there. She was fine here as well. But yeah, I feel like they made this change because they found the right actor that would be better in that role. Yeah. According to king the change was made because it's easier to work with a little girl than Todd. Ler. I guess they didn't want to go the Chucky animatronic CGI route or something his exact quote about why he doesn't mind the change. You can take route three a one and go to Tampa or you can take route seventeen and go to Tampa. But both times you're coming out in Tampa. You could tell where he summers. Anyway, Elliot's the one to see this funeral procession, and she is the one to underline the themes of death. The most clearly to start of this movie that they don't know or they may have forgotten that they own the pet cemetery but behind their house children will come to we'll barrel. They're dead dog to the gravesite and a fantastical parade. Those kids are great at pay per, Michelle. Yeah. Except this just annoys me unless there is a cult of dead animals going on in this film that justifies us. This is just. Well, you know, it's like the snapping gaming conjuring. We gotta do something smook because we're not gonna do any horse stuff for the next half hour. So here's a little spooky thing to maybe scare you. I can honestly say I've lost a lot of pets growing up. It's always really hard. I always feel for people when they lose their animal, you dress up as the pet to bury it though, I never ever ever wanted to do anything like this. Yes. It feels way too over the top. It feels like wicker, man. Feels like they were looking at creepy kid films and saying what can we do to set a mood which would have been fine. If that's what this film was going to be. But it's not that film. It's for scene, and that's it. I agree. I went in seeing this in the early trailers thinking they were really going to do something with that. Why would you have these cultist masks just for this? I'll tell you why the directors have heard this term called elevated horror, and they think this is it. I'm not kidding, jeez. They kept talking in the press junkets about how this elevated horror is this new way of being real with horror and having spooky. They think this is there with get out and admittedly. I wanted to get out. Yeah. I mean, all right. I already had my problems with them on the on the last film, but that's irradiating. And I'm just going to move along. I could hear it in your voice. I will leave it at. So you're telling me that they're making pretentious decisions they can't justify. Yes. In fact, I was very let down by any story questions. They were asked or any anything they loved working with the it just felt so fluffy everything that they said, I don't know how much control they had the person who gave the best answers of anything was the producers. So I kind of feel like the producers made a lot of the creative decisions here. And the directors were just really happy with all the casting choices. But this pet cemetery funeral is creepy. It is weird to think that they bought fifty acres. Never bothered to ask what's on the other forty nine laughed out loud. He's like well. How far back does are you? Are you just said fifty acres? Fifty back. And do they own the mic MAC burial ground? I mean, do they actually? Yes. Lop all of that stuff. You know? Of course, they would know that didn't look into the other lay on that. He was buying a bunch of swampland. That's been cursed. Congratulations. Here's what I wish. I'm going to just go ahead and say like the first movie, I feel that they really rushed through all the story beats and that I really wanted to linger on dread. And I felt like this movie not to say, it's exciting. But I do feel like it's in a great deal of hurry to get us through the whole journey of all the characters, and I would prefer if we just ignored the rest of the family and stayed with Ellie. I think she's a strong enough actress, I think that her relationship that she's going to build with the neighbor Judd is the right one to focus on he can tell her everything about the wind ago and the pet cemetery and we see him in the introductory scene. Trying to pull her back when she wants to climb over the dead fall and get to the cursed. Ground. That's the stuff that it should be about like, how her be the character that learns it all there's some interesting stuff rec- Ellie, she's afraid of death. She's talking to her mom and dad or dads, the doctors he doesn't believe in an afterlife. I'm like, oh, these are all interesting themes that could really in and explore. Nope. It's pretty much lip-service. Yeah. King's book works because it is a treatise on death and coming to terms with death. And when do you tell your children about death than how do you explain that? I mean that was his impetus was thinking about his own child's death and thinking about the pet that they lost in that road and their children's reaction to the death of a pet. It works as a theme in that book because it's sewn throughout Rachel has to deal with it here. I think he can't stay with Ellie because we need to understand Lewis as our protagonist because we need to know why he would make the decisions he makes he is the one who everybody else's acted upon Lewis. And Judd to a degree take action and do things. So they are the only ones who protagonist be protagonists. And yet you've said, you don't think this actor is very charismatic. And again, I'm going to rule that Victor PASCAL does not need to be in the story. I didn't like him in the first movie, and I do not think that playing it straight this time instead of him being wise cracking his getting anything better. No. I thought they did the Zelda and the Pascale stuff a little bit better in this one. But I'm like, Nope. Get rid of it like as someone who hasn't read the book not a king fan. I don't need it here. Just make this about things coming back from the dead. Why do we have these weird subplots pass cow was a complete distraction and this one not done nearly as well, you could cut? I mean, they cut Judd's wife in the book, John has a wife. The wife dies you deal with the death of a spouse in that it helps the theme, but it's not exactly cinematic hordes is watching old lady have a stroke and die utterly did it in one of the Annabel's. But I think. That you're right Stewart when you say we need to focus on dread, though, where I disagree with you as you say, oh, they're getting through this very quickly. I can't tell if it's because I'd seen the original recently and a lot in my life, or if it's this movie, but I felt it took a long time to get to a dead cat in this movie. It was I agree. It was setting up the house setting up the kids with the burial ground. Pulling a B sting out of Ellie's leg. I never even saw. She was climbing. Joe scares her. She falls, and then she has a sting. Did they say it was a B? I thought it was like a thorn or something I did to this. She said, I was stung by a bee. Okay. I don't know. She's a young girl. Maybe she got confused with between the foreign and a be maybe it's like the octopus in goonies. Maybe there was a visa gotta cut. But I just waiting because they're checking the boxes off. I feel it's paste nearly identically to the first one and I have problems with that pacing. I mean one hundred minutes under two hours does the first. That's what I'm saying. I don't have that problem with either movie, I feel like both movies are rushed. I feel like they don't have enough story here for hundred minutes in either version, the original or this remake again if you want to explore just death mourn. Yeah. That sense of dread go off on a different direction and do that. I didn't go back and rewatch the original. But it feels like it's almost beat for beat. It felt like that to me, and I did rewatch because they released it in four K. I wanted to see pet cemetery again and watched it in the new transfer, and it is feeling very beat for beat especially when they do bring in pass cow. I was like I'm surprised they did this. I think I can bridge the gap between what Jacob saying stewardess saying though in that he thinks it's feeling rushed because pass cow. How is rushed Zelda is terribly rushed to the point that like you said Jacob why even include them at all when they're being given short shrift, the edit we have yes. And I thought we were gonna get more of them because we get to them so much sooner. I thought it was going to be an approved because I remember at that original all of a sudden, you get all the L the stuff late in the film. I'm like, what is going on all of a sudden this movie here? Okay. They're setting it up. This is a weird area that makes people think about death, for whatever reason she's focusing on that that never goes anywhere the tie that is everyone here has guilt. And that's what makes Rachel and Zelda important. I think you can keep that where I strongly disagree is the decision to make it. I love Lucy Lucy. She trips down the dumb waiter pratfall as a as the guilt mechanism. I mean, I was laughing that is terrible. And so bad. I liked the way they said it up again, very exercise. Hist but upstairs, this is closed bedroom. She opens the door she's bringing in a tray of food if I hadn't seen the first movie, I might wonder what she's approaching and they always sees that gnarled back. I don't even think they say what she's suffering from. We know if it's a mess or what it is. They do say at one point. Okay. I didn't catch that again. It's a single line. Like a lot of things film. If you don't catch it. You're gonna be wondering. Truthfully, Zelda is one of the scariest things that I remembered from the nineteen eighty nine film when I hadn't seen it at a long time it impacted me heart, and it just occurred to me that I was fourteen when I saw a pet cemetery and there were bunch of fourteen year old girls in front of me watching pet cemetery. They're the age, I was Zelda freaked me out. The little kid was scary and all but Zelda with the makeup effects. I think Zelda scared me more because it was more real. It's something that could happen some spine disease. You know, I didn't know what it was. But I knew that it was bad here. I do think that. The filmmakers watched a little bit of j horror because of the fast jerky movements of Zelda as the bones pop out. And then later when we talk about L E felt a little ring, which of course, all took from exorcist. I mean, that's Linda Blair spider walking true. But that was never in the original exorcist, and Linda Blair never did like the bangs that all the j horror girls do the black stringy hair in the face. What I'm saying is I get the idea that she didn't want to bring the tray to this frightening thing that we don't even see in the dark, and that's great play with what we can't see all of it. And the fact that it sound effects that she's going to use this dumb waiter. But when you actually like imagined in your mind, the comedy of that MS suffer are getting out of bed walking to the dumb waiter then. Whoops, see falling down the shaft and no offence to anyone suffering. I'm s people with them as walking is not funny. This setup is of course, I'm not mocking. A disease. I marking the idea that a child would expect someone with that to get up and go get their trends. And I don't even understand the logistics. She opens dumb way to rehear it crash. She opens received the food spilled all over. I thought Zelda was going to be in it. She's on top of it. Did she like drop down to try to grab it? I don't even understand how this accident happened. I don't either. But I thought like you when I heard the noises in there. I thought she was gonna open it and Zelda was going to pounce like some creature whose mad that she sent the food up. The dumb waiter instead of bringing it herself Zelda is so poorly explained and the way they do it. Honestly is yarn. And if I didn't know what I know. I think it'd be confused as hell because there's this discussion between science and faith when they're talking to Elliot about the dead dog Eli's, mom, Rachel is like, and they look on from you from heaven and the dad's like, well, we don't know that. And they have that discussion. There have been married for. Probably what ten year, right, and they have two kids together at she. Now is asking you mean, you don't believe in the actor. I agree. What did they discuss when they went down the aisle together? Again, it was seldom being so important to her. And if she's had to turn to faith to comfort herself over this guilt. You would think she would be with a man that was going to at least support that idea. But know that he wants to tell his daughter at this point. I mean, she's what not even nine years old. There is no heaven seems a little bit fast. I mean, not to judge anybody and what they want to teach their children, but it seems like so much of these plot points. I get what they're trying to set up. But it feels the word I use his rushed you're saying because you're bored that it doesn't feel rushed you want it to get to the good stuff. But I'm saying they're not giving the important meat of the story. The time it deserves. Yeah. I'll agree with that. Completely. You see the word isn't rushed. The word is clumsy the word is poorly developed. Yeah, that's my problem because I'm expecting, oh, this idea of faith versus science to be throughout the film. Why else would you bring it up? And then it's not a my oh. Okay. So that wasn't important. What is important in this film? And nothing else. Really? Seems that important. I was really hoping when they had this ham fisted discussion at the beginning about you don't believe in the afterlife that there would be some kind of revelation when they realized there's resurrection occurring. Yes. And it's something else is going to play with a little bit and tease, there's an afterlife. But there's no heaven, but that's just trying to come off as a cheap, your mom sucks. Cocks in hell exorcist thing. Like, you say it's not coming off like a real relation on either of their parts that their faith in whatever it is faith and science or faith in religion is shattered by what happens. I don't get that from them. It allows Ellie to have a dialogue with Judson. She's the one that goes over to the neighbor and kind of just walks in invites herself in east a little bit startled by her forward. Nece? Oh, my wife kept shaking her head. She's like, what are they teaching this girl? She just runs out to this cemetery by yourself. Just goes into a stranger's house. Choose judging these parents me that isn't may she's the one that asked about the wedding photos and tries to tell this old man that well, if his wife got sick and died, she must be in heaven, and that gets the dialogue going to invite him over, and we have now John Lithgow in the film, John. Let's go. I mean, I was doing some weird connections with this movie. I'm lag. Okay. John Lithgow was in raising Cain. Bryant depalma. Brian depalma did carry just doing six degrees of Stephen King here? He's good in this movie. He's good in everything. I was also thinking how Jason Clark was in the second planet of the three booed, and he's in the first with goes in the I I think he's perfectly fine here. I think he brings the right amount. And maybe even a little bit better than Fred Gwynne. I understand why he does what he does with Judd. I don't like it. I don't feel like anyone's landing something that feels solid. It's okay. It's fine. Yeah. No, everything is just a lie. In of dialogue, and that's supposed to explain it. Like, why does Judd care about church who dies the cat? And he's like oh Elly won me over. When why don't we see of this stuff? I just dropping lines about the plot. Instead of showing it to us. I felt I saw her bond with Judd in that scene Stewart was talking about and by having dinner together. But yeah, we assume that they've been in this house now a couple of months because it's Halloween. They're dressing up to trick or treat. I think they're driving somewhere to trick or treat because God knows they don't have that many neighbors trigger treat Judd, give me some candy. All right. I'm going home. But this is when he finds church dead. It's not when they're out of town. So you just have to presume that nobody was looking for the cat until it started coming back that day and Judd makes a rash decision. I mean, he starts having Lewis bury the cat in the regular pet cemetery. No kids in masks. And then he says at least touched my heart more than anyone in a long time. Let's climb these Brambles and move on to some. Stony ground, and he says that and we don't feel it we go what are you talking about? Because that ballerina seen in the kitchen was all of thirty seconds. And so again, I go back to if you just told the story from elis point of view, and we had no pass cow and all those visions and all that stuff. They already did in the first movie that they're doing identically here with the dad waking up with muddy feet and all of that stuff. Forget all of that and establish a bond between this old, man. And this child she's curious about life and death and create that bond. So that we feel this moment that it hurts him to have to tell her cat is dead. And that he would make this choice. I'm gonna go one step different and say, I wanna feel a bond that I don't feel in this movie between Lewis and Ellie. This is his girl. This is the light of his life. This is his star daughter is everything you could get rid of cage in this movie completely and make it a. Eagle child. I think it would be stronger if you did because then he could have all his hopes and dreams pinned on this one child, and then maybe Judd and Louis become fast friends as they did in the book, and as they did in the first movie and Judd does it because Lewis is an anguish about having to break his daughter's heart. I'd be good with that too. I don't really need a Judd Ellie bromance going on. Well, they say he changed her heart. Again, I have to look at things like, well, there's a single shot of a gun in a drawer. So I take that as shorthand for Judd is suicidal. I took it the same way. John is lonely and doesn't have a reason to live and this child awakened him to the possibilities of life again. Well, I did not get that. It's actually make sense. Why else do you show it like that? Then I thought it was check off. I thought you name was judged check off, and it was this elevated or Ardy I'm looking for deeper, meaning not because I actually think this is elevated, but I my sumptious was this is going to be a higher caliber film that original one. I mean again. They're just dipping their toll in these ideas. I could be wrong. But I thought that with having a line like that if we're Detaille John Lithgow at face value. When he says that he's not just in a trance doing the will of the window. Then I have to understand that there's something about being around this eight year old girl that made him inspired to live and to want to shield her from death to the point of doing something that he'd already done with his dog. Now, what's interesting is the way they've taken away story lines that were set up in the book, and the first movie there is no Vietnam vet there is no wife discussion about her being buried in coming back or any bull being buried and coming back. They really do just make it seem like judge only experienced this show at internet story about the bull tease it, but Judd's only experience with the Indian Barrio ground is his dog biff. And biff was already mean so him coming back. Mean who can say he has reason to believe that church could come back and be the door -able cat that he was in her life. And it felt like he tells Louis, oh, we need to do this tonight that he thought maybe if you bury it right away. It doesn't have a chance to turn evil. It's something Lewis said in the first movie is I waited too long with gage. I'm going to bury my wife now. And it'll be better. But I just wish I felt everybody's motivation a little better instead of feeling that they're checking off the boxes. But yeah, it's a really creepy cat when it comes back. They've done this thing that the have one eyelid that's like half closed and one that's wide open. I'm like did they really find a lazy eyed cat? But no, I was wondering if they did CGI on this cat because those is our creepy. Yeah. I'm thinking, they see it. They claim they didn't use CGI. They had a lot of headaches for using the cats. But I don't know what to believe I mean. Yeah. Seeing the cat. I feel like yeah. It's ominous. And I'm wondering what they're going to do. That's different. It's a good reintroduction. Yeah. This cat great-looking cap. This film like great year for cats. We had captain marvel. Great cat in that one. Great cat here. Yeah. Agreed completely. They said that they looked at the cover of the pet cemetery book and tried to find a cat that looked like to go with that. I can graffiti, and I don't know that I actually pulled that. But yes, I like this zombie cat when it comes back, and we're going through the same motions, we did before the cat stinks. The cats mean, but Louis now takes a different tact with it. He's not going to screw around. He's going to now kill the cat. And Judd is endorsing that. They have one moment where like it's he seems to be threatening gauge gauges in his pin and the cat is in there. And all we hear is really sound effects. But it would be enough for me to be like, you know, it's one thing that the cat is he kinda creepy and bites and scratches, but could it actu-? Really kill my child. I mean, maybe I'm just thinking too much cats. I, but I that I think for me would have been the turning point of like, okay? Let me inject it with something. And if he just not worst out from that decision movie over I've really he coulda just killed the cat and had a conversation with his daughter, but he can't even bring himself to kill the cat. He go to kill the cat and allied was daughter and say ran away. No, he's actually going to drive far away and just drop the cat off at a wildlife. Preserve, which is a much worse death. I'm gonna say putting its asleep. Chemically? You're now putting it out in the wild for something to eat it. Let a Coyote get it or something. Yeah. It is not a wild animal. It is a domesticated cat. No, admittedly. It's proven. It could kill a bird needed on a bed. So maybe the undead cat could do a little better in the wild than your standard tabby? But this is cruelty. What if they just made it because they kind of in at it when we find out about the wind ago that there is just some Wendy go spirit over this land where you watch. Wanted these zombie things to come back. And that's why the cat lured Elliott into the street. I don't know it just seems like simpler than what they're trying to do here. And just things happen by chance at sea. No actually agree with this choice. I mean, it's I mean, I don't agree with the dad's choice, but everyone does things out of laziness and like not wanting to deal with things. I mean in the same way that Rachel put the tray in the dumb waiter. This guy is putting the cat out in saying. All right. I can't handle the tough stuff and it comes back to get them. And in fact, Eli's going to develop a complex to because she said, I don't like this cat anymore close the door. So he can't come in my room at night. She's going to take in that guilt as well. And that guilt is what ends up killing all the characters. I agree completely Stewart if it was the spirit of the wind ago that made everyone do what they do. Then that's not a human story. That's a story of possession. I would not like that one bit. I don't think this is a human story. I don't think it would have been worse than what they're giving us here. Well, pet cemetery is a human story and here it's trying to tell us that the actions and choices of humans are what makes their own bad decisions. And I'd rather have a good horror film that bad at of whatever the story is about I mean Cuban shining walk both walks it had a psychological reading. But there was also I mean, it's kind of hard to deny that there was also a supernatural element. And I think this is trying to do something very similar. I mean, we've talked about ready how similar the setups of both pet cemetery and shining are including now that Gade seems to have the shining. He is drawing pictures stick figures of daddy. Looks like getting hit on the head of Primin edition of something that will happen if the climax I found it a little tasteless that it's Eli's birthday. And she's like, it's my fault church ran away because I didn't them in my room. And you're like here this chew you up gives her a freaking angel cat cat with angel wings. As a Christmas gift. She's like, I did and hugs it. This would make most kids cry. I thought it was a beer. No. It's a it's a beer. I it's a cast gonna go with that. I want to also point out. I think that they don't do it overly. But I do think there's little Stephen King Easter eggs all over this movie. And one of them is at this birthday party. I hear Judd talking about a Saint Bernard. He's been living in the area all his life. I have to believe that cujo happened somewhere down the block. There's another reference that I didn't catch. But one of our listeners Matty did on Twitter. He actually told me about it before I saw the movie, and I went looking and the scene is so damn fast. I couldn't see it. But when the truckers riding down the road. Oh, let me guess let me guess he gets a call from Sheena. Is this a remote reference Sheena is a punk rocker yet? Because that's what the trucker was listening to in the eighty nine movie, which she is a punk rocker. Oh, I did not remember that. I just I'm like, oh, there's a Ramones reference. Yeah. It was specifically referencing that scene and. The trucker was doing when it crashed even earlier when Lewis is climbing the dead fall. And it's kind of a dream and the ghost kid is behind him. There's a hand that pops out from the thick it made me think of Kerry, there's this visual cues, they do what they can to allude to the best king on film. I guess as a way of just letting the audience that's already experienced the story and knows Kingwell of feeling like they're inside of joke. And it's what they're doing. Obviously, it's what they're doing with gauge here because they are leading us at every single way of believing that he is going to be the one wandering in front of that truck as it's approaching. But of course, because we saw the second trailer. We know otherwise God would have been so much better. If I didn't know it would I love the way that when she first looks at church coming down the street. He's just like this black. It's almost like a CGI squiggle can't even tell that. It's a cat. It's just like an omen of something evil approaching. I. I didn't know it was going to be the cat. They're playing some weird hiding go seek or something where they blindfold. The dad spin them around and Ellie is like hiding by the highway. I thought that was what was going to kill her. Just right there is choice of hiding spot. Then the cat shows up and she runs towards the cat. Now. Gauge also runs towards the road in the first trailer. You see Louis yell. Okay. And it implies gauge died to the point that I'm like does he lose both kids to a truck? What's gonna happen in this film after the second trailer? But no, he's going to save gauge would have been a huge what the fuck if I hadn't seen that trailer. It's going to Jack knife, and the tanker is just gonna smack right into Elian church the hell out of the way. And I mean, it's right to think church planned, this know, that's why I was wondering is this all the dingo doing all of this? Well, this movie more than any other pet. Cemetery is sells thing that wants something comes back from the pet cemetery. It wants to do that to other things. I never got from the book. I never got that from the first movie, but here, it's the slowest zombie apocalypse ever gets little cleaner in this movie. I think this movie does a better job with motivation than either the book or the first movie because in each case, the choice is made that I'm gonna kill you. Because you wished me dead. It's true. Zelda and it's true of church. I mean, she didn't wish him dead, but she didn't like him anymore and she didn't want him around. And because of that she lost her life, and she will come back and be like Zelda to the mom. She's not going to be a killer when she comes back. She only becomes a killer. When the mom rejects her, and I think that really the motive for all of the homicide is the fact that the dead can't compete with the living. Well, she blames the mom. She's like you could have done more to save him. Like, really, you're gonna save you. So I wish that was all there again, they plant little seats here. And there I'm like, oh, this is going to be better because look at they're actually taking some of this stuff more seriously. And then it goes away never comes back. And that's the disappointment for me. I mean, I think it's there. I mean, again, I think it's the cleanest of all pets immaterial is at least the motive for why these people die because for the next thirty minutes. It's pretty much the same thing we've seen before Lewis who is the least interesting character in this family is plotting. What we know he's going to do we see at the few. Enroll he has a look exchange between him and Judd. And there's a look for his weight and him. And Rachel's dad, who is completely these parents if you're going to have Zelda in the movie at all if you're going to just keep that Rachel has six sister that has haunted her all this life. You got to do something with the parents to make me understand the parents that would leave her alone with Zelda as the caretaker here. There's just some guy who gives Louis a nasty look, and I'm like, I guess that's his father in law. I mean, this movie operates a lot on shorthanded inference. Yeah. And that's what I'm damning it for. I mean, that's what I'm really talking about is being rushed is I don't mind a long movie that really makes me feel something when it meditates on these moments. But yeah, giving me one line here and saying that explains these important relationships that is not enough that is not going to make the full impact when we get to the good stuff. But yeah, she goes off back home to be with her parents in the creepy Zelda house. Again, more shining. References she's like looking at a dome waiter, and it's leaking blood like the elevator does in the shining. I thought shining immediately only they cut away from it really quickly before it can be a blatant rip off. And I'm like they still live in that house. And they have the painting up like the two of them the two little girls in the same. Dress feel like the twins in the shining. Again, these directors, and they did it in their first film. They trade so much on retro imagery. And the look of something already previously done. That's only good to a point. You have to bring something new and what I'm urging them to do now that you've made of new choice and you've killed Ellie. Let's do something new. Let's start referencing the old. Let's take it to a new place. I mean, I guess we'll eventually get there. But a lot of these beats leading up to it are identical. It really the only reason you may think that gauge was more impactful because he was so innocent when you kill it. Child that small all you see is the death of something purely anicent. I mean, of course, still a nine year old girl is very innocent. But by comparison, she was already sort of jaded on the world and questioning faith, and in some ways, the adult world had already gotten to her mind. And so that is the difference between killing gauge and killing Ellie, I'll say that if they made the choice to kill the older girl the way they handled it I like in that they don't just do the same thing with the older child that they did with the young kid. It implies that had pre-verbal gauge barely verbal gauge Ben buried he might have come back homicide just because the knowledge of going to the other side and coming back has screwed with her head because she's older, and she's already started thinking about death and thinking about the afterlife in these conversations we've seen she comes back, and she's not instantly evil. She's not instantly murderous. She's definitely creepy. Hell, but she's got this. I'm back from where? And that's why I'm like, okay. This is why they killed the older child because she could verbalize these things, which if you're going for elevated hor. Yeah, you want that in the discussion like what are you running from when you're running from death when you're freida to death when can accept it. There's a lot of neat ideas there, and again this film failed. It introduces some of those ideas, she verbalize is some interesting things. But I never feel like that's what this film is about. Yeah. You could be a little kinder here. I think some of these moments are good. I mean, let's use the word good. Let's take a moment and stop swinging the bat, Wendy and just say like I'm going to bait my child and brush your hair, and then I see the sutures. That's what I'm talking about. Taking your time to feel something is what I would encourage these directors to do more of in this film. And if it meant that this film was twenty minutes longer. So be it. If I was feeling this way throughout the journey. And that's a problem. I had with the first pet center. Metairie once I became aware of the embalming process and the ugly factory like mecca nations of death in America as I'm thinking the exact same thing. He's digging belly is there's no blood in that body. There's a lot of from all the hide, and they take out a lot of those organs. Even if you're not a donor. They're not going to bury you whole unless you say, it's a religious exemption. You start to stink pretty soon as I'm thinking these things, and then he's brushing her hair, and it starts coming out. Just sutures it's like stapled through the skin into the skull. I mean, what morticians due to make a body presentable for an open casket is an art. But what you don't see it's special effects work. If it's not going to be facing, the people visiting it's going to be a mess, and that really drove home true horror. And of course, Rachel is going to be the last person to be receptive of that little girl that is disfigured in that way. She's got all of these issues about Zelda and. Ellie is a manifestation of all of them. She wouldn't even need to be having these flashbacks and dream sequences with her sister. Because once she sees this little girl when she finally gets there. There's like a traffic jam maybe it's an it tie in but twenty miles outside of dairy. They're stuck in like bumper to bumper. Now, that's straight from the book she had to rent a car and had trouble getting back to Maine. I think they'd we're doing that. What got me is the just literally reverse the two roles. They just took the script, and where they had gauge they put Ellie where they had Elliott put gauge because now this mangled you can see his brain matter dead ghost is appearing to a two year old and trying to get a two year old to convince his mother to take a road trip. Yeah. The mom is just like, I'm sick of this crying. Let's get it to the dad. He can't verbalize seen a ghost. But they're not gonna leave that dangling threat. I mean last time we were all like what happened to LA because she got left at the parents house fact that she's not going to leave gauge that he's going to be a part of the climax certainly gives them. The ending the go with here, and once she gets in, and she sees her daughter, again, this is the trigger up to this point Elliott has self esteem issues. She knows she's not good enough. She's not as good as the living. But her mom's disappointment is confirmation. And she even has a line of bombing doesn't want me here, and the feeling is mutual. I mean at this point. She's like, okay. It'd be thing that reflects on my own insecurity. I'm going to take out, and I'm gonna make you one of me. And when they do stuff like this like, oh, the daughter versus the mother. Okay. It's nine year old. It's weird place to go. But you think about the electric complex citing with daddy. This is where I see like there's themes you could develop, but they just don't go anywhere in this film. And that's why I really wanted to tighter father daughter bond in this case. Yes, go Electra. The one thing that worked, and it's the only thing that worked at a pet cemetery too. Was the weird like incest son mother thing that caused Edward furlong to do what? Ever. He did something like that to show. A father's obsession with a daughter would help me understand why he would take her up barrier. After seeing that the cat came back evil. They're going to have dropped line where Judd's like once you buried someone as like addiction. You got to want to bury a lot of people. So is that the one to go? I mean, that's the only thing I can truck it up because it's certainly not intelligence. I thought we were gonna see a windy this film. We will not we do well received a picture in a book. No, there's a shot when he is taking her in the montage where he's taking her and we're cutting back and forth and the dumb waiters bleeding and all of that. There's a moment where he looks out into the forest, and we see the silhouette that looks identical to the book. So we yeah, I didn't catch that. It's there. I was actually distracted every time. They went there at the bad blue screen that was intentional. They said they said they wanted once you went past the Brambles to feel other worldly, so they decided to blue screen at all it doesn't feel other. Worldly, it feels like it's on a set. You know, what I'm gonna go a little bit further here. I don't like the look of this film. I was very disappointed and the blue green color palette. I know they have more money, and it's clear, but the style of the mass all of it just felt like stuff borrow from other ideas and just not very cohesive impressive vision. I just thought this movie part of the reason why I was had a muted response to even seeing it was that nothing that I was seeing in the trailers looked that compelling and my memory of the original as bad as it is. I remember going totally crazy when gauge shows back up and goes after Judd when Ellie goes after Judd here, I guess they try to do something different. She's going to shake her face to look like Judd's dead. Wife's I wish Riyadh some kind of back story that would make that a really poignant moment again, we got a couple of lines. That's it. I'd like a scene at the beginning when they're talking about it again, everything that I'm talking about building relationships. You can't just show a gun in a drawer you have to develop. These you have to write it. Like it matters. And I thought for sure should be bringing Judd back to. I mean, I get that she over hears Judd, tell her father, it's not too late to undo your mistake. And so killing him as an act of self preservation, and they play with again, they feel like they're in the shadow of that first movie because Judd goes up to his bedroom. And in the first one he got the Killys tendon cut from under the bed here. John Lithgow is going to kick the bed. Oh, there's no child there. It's okay. I saw the trailer. He's going to get it on the stair those heads. I'm telling you they had other things to show. Maybe they felt like they didn't. But I really feel like yes, if you pay attention to at all any advertisement for this movie. What little things they do that are different are totally destroyed this whole scene over a judge. We saw at the beginning. We talked about this the beginning of the film starts at the end. There's a fire judge houses on fire. I don't even remember seeing that house get set on fire at the end here. You see them walking with a gas? Tank at the very very, that's right. The dad held a gas take just like this. Phil that's supposed to tell me everything. Okay. Yeah. Why burn it down? Like what was that accomplishing? Why bring people beg? So Ellie is being rejected by her mother. Her mother is the only smart person in this whole goddamn movie. Who's like, I miss my daughter. But this is some fucked up shit, and I'm not going with it. So Ellie kills Rachel. Yeah. I like that moment. Like cheetahs calls it out because I mean Eli's laying it on thick as she's sticking it in her side. She's like, you know, there is an afterlife. But it's not heaven, and you're going there soon, and she does the Jesus cuts. Right. She cuts her in the side where Jesus was speared. So that she'll die slowly but bleed a lot. And then finally she just sticks it in. And literally twisted. I haven't seen a knife twisted in a long time. She literally twist the knife. I just wanna know how Ellie dragged Rachel all the way to the burial ground. She's ambi- strength. Yeah. I was thinking of the original night a living dead. The she. We're seeing there's just it's a trope in Dombi history. That we've seen the innocent daughter. Come back and kill the mother. It felt right? I felt like all of this stuff kind of worked in what they set up to do. I was good with all the murder. I was good with the exorcist rip off of there is no heaven and the torture. I was good with all of that. And then she decided to drag the mother up to the cemetery. I'm like why what is the rationale? What is she just told them how much they don't like each other? Now, she wants to be with her. And if you're going to tell me that these Mbeki's are actually taking people up to bury them, there's some grand plan. The windy goes behind it. All I'm telling you. That's the movie I thought we were getting what she responded to that. Her mother didn't accept her hug, and so if becomes like her, then they will accept her hug. I think is the way to read it. It would have been great if they had a scene like that where they hug once. They're both zombies. Maybe. I don't know about that. I'm just saying if you're trying to tie these the sounds like you're trying to give this film, something it gives you nothing as far as that goes. I think you're being a little too hard. I do think that there are things that maybe too subtle. But there are things that they imply and choose to leave to suggestion, and that can be very effective that is elevated horror, but I feel like a lot of this is abbreviated. It's not elevated is just omitted, and that's unfortunate. All right. So if L E killed her mother because her mother didn't accept her as zombie are the people coming back bad. Are they is the ground sour or these evil people? Are they just do they've you death differently because they've been there, and they're cool with it? I don't understand. Now. What it was? I was okay with cursed Indian burial ground brings back evil. Now. It's like cursed Indian burial ground with a win to go brings back people of questionable moral judgment. You're focusing. On the fact that they're coming back. I think of it as more like they die because of their guilt. They die because they made choices that led them to ironically, no solution. I mean, that's the point the fixate on the fact that they come back. It's only so they could torn it. Somebody new is there discussion of the afterlife in the book endlessly because I was like why don't they make instead of every Mon to hell because you think come back all behave that's better than being in hell, or when I picture to be based on scriptures. One not have everyone just go to heaven. And that's why so pissed when they come back because you took them away from something good, and they'd just go full evil again. I wanted more of a discussion of if this is all about afterlife or accepting death rejecting death just say something about it. This is nothing Buffy already. Did that Jakup can't do that? And I also want to say they're not coming back. Their bodies are coming back. But it's as the mom pointed out, you're not my daughter. They are burning in hill. But their bodies are inhabited by something else is it. I'm confused because if so why does this something else want to bury its mother, and then bring the mother back in the mother will accept it. It's stupid. It is stupid that Ellie buries her mother. I tried to go with it. I tried to say if I didn't know the original story, whatever with this. No, I wouldn't this is just the dumbest ending since the missed. Spoiler alert. Chicoms back to kill Louis that is why because we have a climax in the actual pet cemetery. Where Lewis thinks I can take this nine year olds ambi- holder down with his foot is about the dry. This shovel into her head and decapitate her and she's got an as ner sleep because she knows ambi- mom is going to come back and spirit with a crucifix. Okay. Then why do they bring him back? If Rachel was brought back just as a weapon against Louis. Why bring Louis back? They wanna zombie. I'm telling you, it is the slowest zombie apocalypse instead of zombie bite is AVI murders, you drags you up the Brambles berries, you when you come. Back a few hours later, you know, what I actually thought we were gonna get as risque this and stinger yet. They're all Brokeback zombies. And now they're gonna go after gauge whose been locked in the car, I do love when church on the there at the end to. I thought they were gonna cut. There's a Ramon song called. We're a happy family, which is about a totally dysfunctional family. I'm like, oh, that'd be kind of a funny stinger with this. That's not where they go that. But it feels like this ending is almost a joke. It's like, oh, we're going to be happy family now. Especially with the last thing you hear being the of the unlocking of the car. The ambiance have the remote unlock the gar that's him. Again, it makes you think about that I image, and you know, that little kids going to be dragged out bloody those handprints are him as they tear into his flesh. What it is that they fell in love with this. And they couldn't let it go. I understand the scripted ending is very different design. Be family. Did not come back, and they promise on the Blu Ray that we will be able to see this. So all the problems that you're having. I think our because they loved yes. The electric chirp of the ending too much. They love that image of the cat coming back. It's a great frame. It's really effective. I really felt like, wow, this free seconds is really haunting. But is it really justified for the ending that they gave us probably not they probably should have gone with their other ending. They haven't said what that ending is only that it's just as bleak. Don't expect a happy. There is no everyone gets away. But that's cemetery. I mean, the original ending from the book done in the movie is Louis berries is wife because he wants her back now and the wife comes back, and is it's monkey's paw. This whole thing is monkey's paw. I'll give it this. I may not like the church, but I want to end by giving this movie a compliment. I really do. Like, it's piano score. I thought it was a fact if I looked it up after it's Christopher young. He did the hell raiser stuff. I mixed on him because he also did spider man three. But here I think he does really well in. Horror. I liked to stuff in drag me to hell as long as you're not complementing this. I think it star crusher or something whoever is doing this awful Ramones pet cemetery cover at the end I could go along with the score. But that I had this dreaded feeling like, oh, they're going to get a cover for this Ramon song, and they do and it's bad. It's females covering it. Because it's the gender flip. It's still bad. It pit him. Is is this movie for me, it reenact the first movie, but it lacks the old like the Ramones are gritty band. And you hear their spent cemetery song, which I've listened to a lot redoing opening credits with some new quotes at it's just got this grittiness to it. This end version again, I was thinking about Buffy. It sounds like one of the songs off of the Buffy soundtrack that was played at the club where they dance this just muted nineties female rock. I'm like, you sucked the soul out of L E. You sucked the soul at a pet cemetery. The movie. Yes. Sucked the soul at a pet cemetery the song trifecta. So you know, what I think? Yeah. We need to do. Let's put a button on it Stewart. Jacob why shouldn't we bury this movie in a pet cemetery? So we can watch it on home video. Jacob get. I'm not a king fan. I'm not a fan of that first cemetery. I'll say this is probably on the same level just bad for different reasons. Like that would. Yes. The acting is bad. My memory is correct me if I'm wrong, but my memory is when gauge goes on the attack in that film like that was really entertaining stuff. Oh, great stuff when he's going after Judd, and they did some weird like psychedelic the voice now I want to play which you I love that stuff. Yeah. And this I was waiting for that moment because I was kind of bored throughout it. I'm like, well, at least there's going to be this crazy ending. We don't get that. And that kind of wraps it all for me. Like we. Oh, yeah. There's little inset conversations. That are interesting. Oh you want to elevate. You gotta develop all these conversations that you start to introduce, but you never go anywhere. And then when you get into the horror stuff, I kind of just sat there board throughout the Phil. Go look up that last fray before they could two credits. That's the best part of the film. But yeah, it's pretty mediocre and not that engaging. So not recommend Stewart. You know, I had more of a wrestling than it sounds like you guys are. I mean, I wrestled Lewis wrestled with the decision of do we want this thing to live or not do we like that? It's coming back with stronger performances. He can't deny that tighter themes. I think that the script and the acting is much better. But it's lacking suspense. And what that first movie had was if nothing else a great closer and beyond the novelty of the gender swap which again, I'm so mad. They robbed the surprise of that moment through the advertising. I'll never know if that would have impacted me during the watching of this film would that have been enough to get me engaged what had felt pretty boring and by the numbers by and large. This is a movie where everything is technically better. And yet I'm not at all excited about what I'm seeing. And so I'm not happy bearing pet cemetery or giving it a pass. I mean, I do think in many ways, it's better than the original butts. There's not a lot about it that I like, and so I guess that means red arrow I wish I could combine the two I actually think there's a recommendable movie if you could somehow blend the elements that work best in both movies and put it together. I think that that would be a good film, but on their own it's too bad ones. And that's unfortunate. Listen, I came into this review with my opinion formed we're recording this on Sunday night eight days before its release because I'm going to be out of town for a while enriches AM. Yeah, we Zam, but I've had over twenty four hours to think about this movie, and I did wrestle with it. Because I knew I was disappointed. I knew that I had bad feelings. The question was, and I just I wrestled a lot with this. Would I have liked it? If I hadn't seen the trailer. Would I have liked it? If I hadn't seen the first movie those fourteen year olds in front of me did not like it. They were pulling out their phones before the cat even got hits. But would I have liked it? If I was fourteen and I came in. I hadn't read the pet cemetery book when I saw the first pet cemetery movie if I was fourteen now, and I watched this would it be effective? And I just I wrestled with that a lot because I don't wanna say this movie isn't as good as the first one, which I do not think it is. It's got something's better. I'll agree. The acting is improved. I find Jason Clark to be bland. But I don't dislike Jason Clark. I don't like Jason Clark. This guy is nothing to me. He's like glass of water and not like tall blast of water in a good way. So weird. I think the acting is better. I think the daughter acts tremendously there we go. I mean, I really do think she's a star in the making in a movie that is not deserving of what she gave it. But I wrestled with in isolation. Do I recommend this movie because it has some effective nece? I liked the stuff in the bathtub with the Staples in the head. I liked the daughters pulling her exorcist stuff. I liked when they ripped off the ring and the daughters crawling with the stringy hair Judd's death. I went with. I mean, it has some affective nece so-, I wrestled with it. And I really tried to analyze this film as best I can removing from myself life experiences that are ingrained in me since childhood and in the end, I just let the hate flow. That's why you've heard what you did in this movie is I've decided fuck no, this movie's a red arrow, even if their words other movies other books, the Zambia Pakalitha idea at the end is silly and dumb and it takes two. Long to get their characters are not well-developed. You're right. The look of the movie is bad. It is worst at the Indian burial ground. But the whole thing it doesn't ever feel very cinematic. I was left wanting sometimes the originals betta not recommend. Yeah. I mean for me sometimes when you're on defense. They ask is what did you really like? And I came up with nothing. There was nothing that I really liked about this at all. I really liked you taste performance. Okay. That's fair. Yeah. I did like her not enough. No. And I kind of liked Luth go. You know, I thought he was fine fine is not liking, and I kind of liked the suspense during the death. And I did like the jump scare not jump scare but surprise of Rachel impaling Lewis from behind with one of those grave markers fence posts from the pet cemetery. I mean, I'll say sometimes camp is more fun in that first one definitely is more campy. And if I had a pick when I might watch that one again because you have this one act. Ting's better. Just kind of boring though, it never has the heights at the other one does at the end with gauge I'm going to reverse something I said on a previous Stephen King podcast. I claimed that the remake of Carrie was better than the original carry you said that I know I'm reversing that. Because in time I've completely forgotten. There was a remake of Carrie, and I have rewatch the sec- space at one, and I've not gone back to the remake. I think this Metairie is going to be in that exact same spot. It's completely forget -able remake that I'm gonna see on flipping through the movie channels. They're going to be like oh pet cemetery assuming I still have channels by the time. It's and I'm not just dreaming everything. But I'll be like oh Pennsylvania's on a win. It's that one. And I move on. I think everybody is going to forget this movie happened it open to twenty five million. That's very soft opening even though it didn't cost a lot. I think the studio knew what they have is why the opened against Zam in spring instead of saving it for fall when they could've opened it in September against no competition. Titian? Well, it is the thirtieth anniversary of the regional being released as well. It also came out in spring nineteen eighty nine and I don't think it's going to slow the momentum for Stephen King adaptations, I think that all of his big works are still coming. We're going to cover them. And yeah, hopefully, they are going to be told with a little bit more passion and bring the stuff that we really like about the book onto the screen. I know we're going to be covering two more Stephen king's based on short stories from his collection of skeleton crew one that's very famous the missed Thomas Jane made about twelve years ago, followed by not so great TV series. I already spoiled in this podcast. My thoughts of the end of the missed what I think about the rest. I'm going to watch it for the first time since theaters, and then I looked into what it was. Because this other one nobody knows about it's called mercy. It was based on a story called grandma about witches, and it's got to alums from American horror story Dylan McDermott Francis O'Connor as well as indie darling, Mark the plus. One of the brothers. Who knows what that's going to be like, it's even recent it came out in twenty fourteen. But you know, there were a lot of king movies before it that just I knew they made a movie of cell with Sam Jackson and John Cusack. But does anybody really know that it never came to the enters is that different than the cell with Jennifer Lopez. Yes, this is his cellphone zombie book. Oh, cellphones ambi-. Okay. Yeah. I agree before it. I don't feel like if you have a Stephen King thing it got any traction at all that didn't seem to mean. Anything to anybody for the last ten years until? Yeah, it's two years ago. That's going to be obviously, very big when we get that movie. We're building towards it chapter two this September. I hope I like the first part. I will go ahead and spoil a little bit. I thought they took the easy route by taking the best stuff out of the novel and putting it into first movie all the heart stuff. All the the weird stuff. I'm not sure they can pull off with turtles. Clown's? We'll see what they can do. They got a good cast. But I'm hopeful brooding for them. But it's going to be hard to pull off chapter two. And there is a third. Stephen King adaptation coming out this year in the talk grass being released by net. Flicks some point this year while there then there's a fourth one because there's one really excited about this November. We're getting the sequel do the shining. Doctor sleep is hitting and it's little Danny Torrance all grown up to being you and McGregor and he's now using his shining power to fight vampires. Apparently, it's being directed by bite Flanagan who did a really good job turning Shirley Jackson's haunting of hill house into a very credible season of TV on Netflix. I don't know if you guys saw that show her good things. Yeah. And I think that he's going to do a really good job. I don't know how good the Steven king book of Dr sleep is. But I look forward to reading it. And I really do look forward to seeing another chapter in the shining. Saga already talk all about it. Yeah. I reviewed doc. Sleep out of order because it was a sequel to the shining and the first time king ever done a real sequel novel other than gunslinger, so I read and reviewed that very early on in the king book series. Spoiler alerts. It is no shining. Yeah. I didn't think that it would be. But again, I'm still excited, and you get changed at a more exciting than James want tackling Tommy knockers, which is currently something in development. But most of the other king stuff at hearing about it's all TV it's the stands coming back as a TV series. Dr tower is going to be a TV series nother season of Castle Rock another season of Mr. Mercedes, Scott Derek sin is working on a theatrical adaptation of the breathing method the different seasons fourth story that won't happen. I'm just going to in. Sour ground and say that story is not good enough. And it's just not going to have come out twenty twenty is what they say. All right. I could be wrong and Scott Derek's. It is not currently working on doctor strange to. Meanwhile, something that definitely is coming out and we delayed because it came out this past weekend help boy, but we're gonna make good we have already covered the first to help ways comic book movie adaptations. And so we're going to see how this reboot does next week of the three theatrical releases we've reviewed in a row, my hopes down a stair step for each one. But you know, what low expectations can be great for movie. 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God sees the truth but waits now playing have been guns in media production copyright, twenty nineteen all rights reserved. And no part of this show, maybe reproduced repurpose or redistributed without the written permission of in guns media Inc. Grain no pain. Pain. The soil of a man's hottest stone meal. Then rose. That he tends. What you? What you? Always hold you. I think sometimes dead is better. Maybe they should have just said sometimes it might be better. If you stay dead hit. No just don't go toe to toe with win. Because in this case, you're going to lose that is a I I think don't go toe to toe with Fred Gwynne. Have you seen the munsters movie that person failed to Fred Gwynne owns everything? I went on a Saturday afternoon. Four fifty showing, you know, that's usually a weird time to go. Anyway, Scott got that matinee price. I don't know. I pay the flat fee every month for movies now to AMC. It was the nice recliner theater with deliver your sodas to your chair. I like that. I was wondering how fourteen year old we're going to take to this, especially when they were cooling over Tom Holland. Flash screen in the avengers endgame trailer. Did you guys know Tom Holland's, the new Edward from twilight for tweens? I didn't know that. No, I don't hang out with many tweets. I was not aware. No.

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