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The MMA Beat: Episode 226 (UFC 237 & Bellator 221 Preview, McGregor-Cerrone, Lesnars Retirement)

The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

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The MMA Beat: Episode 226 (UFC 237 & Bellator 221 Preview, McGregor-Cerrone, Lesnars Retirement)

"You're listening to the box media podcast network. It is Monday. I wanna stop Monday Jesus. It's Thursday may ninth two thousand nineteen brother is that kind of week. This is the may beat sorry everyone. My name is Luke Thomas memory fighting dot com. Siriusxm you to the gentleman to my left any cigar from fighting, and then iceman himself Chuck mendenhall the man in the hat from the ringer as well as fighting if you've noticed I look and sound dubber the normal 'cause I had my stupid face operated on about two days ago. And I can't breathe very well. Hopefully, I don't start bleeding on air. I didn't lead to bad this morning. But it's been a rough around here. I think it's awesome. That you showed up man condition. Didn't want to. But sometimes it life when you're an adult you gotta do things you don't want to do. But here we are here on things that I do want to do. I wanna watch you two thirty seven which is going to be Saturday. So let's start there gentleman. I will start with you thirty seven it's going to be in Brazil. It's going to be headlined by rose NAMA Yunus taking on just drudge first time that a straw, weight title fight has had led to UFC carbon. Here's the funny part about it rose Nabi Yunus beat twice that was convincingly. Although one was short one was long right up to that point the consensus. Best raw we never really seen and yet heading into this contest. She's the underdog she's the underdog against the woman that that said grit we ever seen beaten Dallas. Why is rose the underdog? And what do you make of that? Well, we know in may styles make fights right? So just just out of enemy matches because you beat somebody doesn't mean you can beat the person that person beat right? So I think I think there's a few things to consider here one she's going into enemy territory, which is something that we don't really see with champions. You know champion. Defend their built territory. So we says. Of course in Brazil. We know that this is this is not just like fighting in the UK or anyone else Brazil's, specifically a hard place to find you know, the food's different right hotel. Sometimes they'll have sauna. Sometimes they'll have like the adequate to cut the way, you know, the crowd itself can be very hostile as well. Plus, I think you know, there is something interesting about the style. And I think rose number Eunice on Monday went on the mayor. She said when asked her opponent, can you compare to Jessica androgen, she really have anybody to compare it to she said, she's a pretty unique challenges. So she is seeing a new look I still wouldn't label her as an underdog. But you know, if that's what the bedding lines have asked. You know, what they are is? Yeah, it's really interesting, right. Because I think the J series should have boosted her stock. But I guess maybe it's just one of the situation when you break it up into you know, how to gamblers, but anyway, it's all based on some kind of perception maybe people feel like she just had Janas number which is a big number to have. But maybe the. They wanna see more out of her. If you look at it to that. I will fight against us sparce. You know, the way she was worked in that fight. I think that somehow lingers it's always the first the first thing that somebody processes when they watch somebody. I think that just kinda lingers over her career. So I I don't know. I I really think that going to Brazil a big factor in something like that. But I think it's also kudos to her for just being so strangely unorthodox in her own head to just do these types of things. I don't know if the you'll see incentivized or how they incentivized her to go fight in Brazil, and basically give Andre the emotional boost like that. But it speaks to kinda rose nominee Unisys mindset of how she doesn't want things necessarily catered to her. She's been very different and how she handles her career. She uses spa she didn't seek it out. Just her the way, she operates is just very different different mindset. And this is just one more chapter for, but I think the betting public this the way Vegas works. I think that they probably it's a perception thing and right now on price seems like she has more more things in are. Favor. Look at the story of on drudge here. It's pretty straightforward. She's been a contender who she changed weight classes yet. A couple of setbacks yourself against Janecek, but has since then just been on an absolute unbelievable run the consensus clear challenger for this title. Now, maybe that will change with some other ones coming up the food chain. But right now, she deserves it. But for me what I look at rose trying to think like what the story of this fight is Chuck it seems to me like this is not about popular gate, not not this time around. This is about as we noted going to enemy territory taking on people are going to be taking on a contender people think as a pretty decent chance of beating her. This is a an opportunity for validation when you think about what this could do for her career, you share that sentiment of mine. Yeah. I think that are you talking about rose. So what does she think that she benefit? She's able to go in there, and basically duplicate what she's enter last three fights. And those two against you nj I think that puts her on a different different level. I don't think you'd see her as an underdog regardless of the situation and our next fight. If that's the case. But I think it goes a long way, I think that it's just one of those issues too in one entitled fights there's just there's still just enough of a of a suspicion that maybe we're not seeing everything yet. I think that that lingers out there. So I think that this fight especially going against the momentum that you just mentioned because Andre has been just a buzzsaw, and I think that goes into it to the way she's beating opponents and then to have to face her out there. It's not not to compare. You know, the, you know, the therapeutic use exemption that be to a Bill for. But all those guys that went to Brazil back in two thousand thirteen and just got wax. It almost has a feel of that. Like, you're being kind of fed the state under the door situation where you're like h show up and phase androgynous lock it up and everybody shoot on. Shoot on catch the bloods. But it's it's it has that feel to it. But I have to admit that's what makes it kind of romantically fund is to see rose have to go against the odds in that sense. Yeah. I think to your point this is about validation because if you think of strawberry right now, really the most successful straw. We'd right now is engaging just out of title defenses, right in what she's done. Yes. Unis's the champion, but you know, defeating Jake back to back. It's the same type of opponent. Right. We know this your string without shaneco, which has been on jayjay as well. So right now, we know that she can beat on Jake. But we don't know if she could be the straw Queen. Right. I think if she gets past just gonna dry all the sudden, she starts getting into conversation with Jason where okay, maybe she can be one of the most successful strawweights as well. Do we think that the UFC comfortable putting this fight in Brazil in part because they they want to go to Brazil? But to get back to the lingering suspicion you're talking about. It's like, okay, she could prove this. They will put a hero bigger car. Yes. I agree. And I think that like what you mentioned before just her being the first straw, wait champion-to-be on, you know, the main event I think that that's feats to where they're add on that too. I think that that potential is still there when you went back to the original impressions we had Rosen. I'm eunice. She was being compared to Ronda Rousey at the time who was doing all the stuff in the she was on tough. Right. And so she's coming up. I think there was like the sex that you would do it. I don't know if we have fully saw it was almost like her losses kinda stood up more than our wins. Even though her wins have been completely impressive. So this this one I think is it's it's fee star star power what they wanted to be also speaks to the opportunity they want her to seize. I think to go in there and do that. And what about drudge we missing something here? Part of the story. She has been watching the embeds of doing my research on this when I saw the cow. Downs. I was following a career for some time. She's an interesting character. But I don't know that we know at least all the American states have things a whole lot about it. What part of the narrative, am I missing here. I don't I don't know. I mean, honestly like that's where it's confusing, right? Because I think I know rose Nahmias more so than I knew on drudge going into the fight. I really don't know. I feel like everything we've seen about Andrea is what makes her dangerous, but I don't feel like I'm missing anything about her. I just feel like she seems like she's got a head of steam, really. That's really what it seems to me is she she's she's super legit. I mean, her skills she stands out from any other straw because straw. It's usually one fifteen that's that's pretty low in weight. But for some reason, she feels like she's. She's very, and I think story wise like, you know, she doesn't speak English. So at least stateside here, you know, the UC has always had a tough time marketing, those kind of fighters. Although is who he is based out of his crazy win streak, and and what he achieved in the sport. But from a story side of things, I mean, we never really got that side, you know, from the UC are let's talk about the Komeda vet here. I want to move the war topics today if we can and the Komeda then you've got Anderson Silva taking on Jared Kennedy. Scale of zero to one how pumping. I would say like three next four. Okay. Let me ask you this. Let's start this way. What is the U of C doing with with Anderson Silva have no idea? Why are they booking him? This have no clue. This is this is extremely bizarre. I mean Anderson Silva at this point at this point Anderson Silvo can do either to put them in a fight against somebody. Like is. Right assign you where you can use their profile, and I don't I don't really. And this is no, no, I'm not throwing any shady to Jerry Kennedy. I'm just calling things how I see it. I don't really see the it factor in Jeddah Kenan near at least not yet. Right. And then you're putting Anderson civil against that. He should be there in two type of fights either. Again, like a young prospect like is right assign ya or maybe like a beat doorbell, obviously, he's now won. But like somebody another old dog has a big name. And all of a sudden that car feels like it has a really good Komen event and this overseas jerrycan doesn't feel like a combing event to me. It's just a weird fight to to book them in. I don't know. What else I can say about that diminishing returns thing because after losing data Sonya, and I think that even that Derek Brunson fight it wasn't the greatest showing? He wanted his only win. I think unless it's six legit win. I guess the the Nick de has fight was overturned. But yeah, the last legit when he's had like six years or seven years, it's ridiculously long time. But it's just a minute returns. Because each time he comes back there. I read brought Okamoto's piece about this should be a story does fights this. Because what else are we doing? This should be some kind of hook as to. Why you're watching this fight? I can't find the hook on this one either. I I when I made it I was like what are they trying to do is this a fight to get him. Correct. Again to get a win and then launch towards something. Was there a plan in place because I really don't understand what a win against Jared Cananea really does for him at this point. And he so at a touch so drastically at Italian Anderson Silva ways talking about Conor McGregor. I feel like it's we're in two different orbits now. Like, there's the collective idea. What's going on in a million? And then there's Anderson Silva's world. This is super super super fight. And I'm like a super super super fight. This fight has nobody wants that. Nobody wants that fight at this point these fighting these guys like he knows he's passed it. And so he's fighting these guys almost like a charity to the fans that's an exhibition, and we're just lucky to watch. He's dialed into some self-importance. That is just not the reality of our times. It's like, I get it. The guy was a goat. I mean, he still is. I think if you look back it's hard does not call him. Maybe the go, right? There were a couple of guys. But I'm like at this point in time. Given all the checkered stuff that has happened him over the last months years and being like forty something years old. I'm like, I think he used his position more than the fans do at this point interest. I think that's the truth. I think that's the this. This feels like if you're playing like the UC game you just pick random characters. And then that's the kind of like that shows up has no story to it won't was to your point something that you mentioned interesting. He feels like he's doing just exhibition matches just just for the fans charity thing. But I feel like that works in certain match, for example, Israel to sign. You was down to go technique for technique and compete with him in that level. Don't feel like Jerry here is that type of guy you're going to be like I'm gonna use my power my speed to do that, man. That's just not the type of. Three round victory. If jerk had is kind of, you know, your your basic, you know, bring the lunch pale and beats them across three rounds. What does that do for anybody? That's the problem. I like I like when there's a future to a fight like there's some kind of springboard or something's happening there. I just don't know. What it does? He goes in there and Knox Anderson. So vowed I think that boosts profile little bit. But if he just grinds out a victory. I'm like. Has I think I'm not making up your has a flair for the dramatic. Sure. You know, he looks in accent certain way, he's starting to put himself at risk. But also jeered Kennedy. I remember this distinctly I had him on my radio show, and he was asking for pizza recommendation. So buddy of mine has lived in New York City since nineteen ninety eight and he gave it like this list of like, the New Yorker would know. And then Jared went and got a slice in Times Square is sort of like that's the best place on earth. He wins the fight. Get to be had here probably pretty handily. But he does it pejoratively. He just kind of relatively ordinary guy. Yes. There's nothing wrong with that. But in takes away from a narrative that this larger significance it will ordinarily be there. He's not going to be the us Anderson Silva's a catapults anywhere. That's the thing. That's weird. Right. Like you. If it's a guy who has he's kind of, you know, the the radars beep anonymous, he's approaching like is about it's on it makes it a different kind of setup that one made sense on that level that this one. I just don't see it. Yeah. I guess what you want to maybe see is the it's the same thing. Every time you're like, well, maybe we'll see some vintage flashback of the old Sinn Sova in there, and we'll get nostalgic about it. But obviously, I don't know beyond that emotionally. That's kind of the that's the end of it. You know, this is this is a weird match. Let me this way. What can can your reasonably get from this? Let's look if it goes there. It's like a three round split probably not much because there are just bodies him like a round. Two. I think maybe we'll have to wait and see how the fight actually feels. But I feel like if that does happen. The storyline would more be like, wow. This is you know, watching Anderson. So in this situation rather than while look Jerry cannon near look at what he just cheesed again. We'll have to see how the five plays out. Maybe is very competitive. And you actually pulled off the win you go out. You're super legit. Right. But it just I just it's just not set up to feel that way. I feel like in this situation. It's either Anderson civil looks, great or Anderson. So gonna look really get the feeling. Thanks. He's one went away from being able to call any shoddy wants yes. Which is the most bizarre of it. Also, if he wins, you feel like he's going to revert back to the way he used to be where he's like, I want this guy, and that's going to be a public thing, which is just even beyond awkward. Yeah. He he knocks out Jared Kenan near the I wanna fight McGregor talk. At least from him. Anyway, I don't know. Over the masses. I'll go start this way this way, Ford any other fight of the card worth or at least capture your tension in some capacity or another. I mean, you know, Volkov's ski they could act that kid has been you know, I every time I see him. I'm more impressed. And you know, you could talk to them as a very down to the four and former rugby player, I think he's you know, he's got a lot of unpacked star potential. I think he's I think he's got more charisma probably realized on like, I'm really to see how he handles the biggest of his because this that's the perfect setup for a fight right guy. Who has you know, enjoy Zelda who's all of a sudden back. He looks a little bit more like himself. And now he has to go through this crossroads with this guy. Who's coming up? Let me ask you this actually both of you this one a lot of people complain about the matchmaking this long with like, why are they matching up Josie against the sky? Like alligator Volkogonov, whatever happened was we've dusted at max max is still the featherweight champion and Josie wins. Again, y'all he's the consensus number one contender. He's already not just lost twice. He's been stopped twice. Why would you have see book against the guy who would be a fresh match? Up for max Holloway. What do we make of this? Yeah. I'm with you. Now when I thought when this was booked it was poor matchmaking. I think was Aldo as long as he remains featherweight. He's going to be a cancer to that division because he he is the outside of max. Oh, he's the best period. I mean, he's been destroying everybody. And I mean Volkan Oscar has a solid chance. I'm not gonna say he's going to go in there and get smoked, but it's still pretty risky because you got a nice contender. You got somebody. That can offer a nice nice questions into meth always match up because he hasn't verse somebody like Vulcan off ski and all of a sudden you're putting him against somebody. That's very risky fight, and he could potentially lose. So I don't really get the matchmaking this one it could be a little bit matchmakers reading the tea leaves a little bit looking back at the Jeremy Stevens fight with Aldo or maybe more Klina where both guys started off a lot stronger than it ended up obviously, although showed the guts in vintage form by coming back and winning basically looking great in the end. Maybe they look at this as a little kick of the ice floe. All right. We're going to send him on his way by putting off. In there. You know, what I mean, it might be a little bit of that. Do you like Volta to win? I do actually I just think the kid is. I think you're talking about. This is on an upward trajectory. And I think that he's probably going to be the best form he'll ever be in this white. I would be surprised if he came out, and he looked sluggish or anything like that. Obviously, he's hungry. This is you know, I think he's going into enemy territory knows that. I think that the setup for him is probably a big deal. And he's I feel like you're gonna see the best version. Maybe I'm underestimating Volkov ski. But I feel like although has already received that look, and you know, shot to Alexander Lee who made a point of this life chat. Hello beat a prime Chad Mendes twice. And I don't know if prime chatman is as good as prime Chad Mundus. I mean, he already got that Luca facing a really really great wrestler that puts on a lot of pressure and also has really good striking. So it's a tough match forum. Yes. I also know that that was also a prime Jose Aldo. He's a little past it now. But it's a very tough match. I have get hit though. Although so it's like, I I can imagine a scenario where he just takes one early on. It's just. Just always chose gone is gone. It's not what it was and against the guy, by the way. Acceptable leaves it out there. He has yet to get like knock thou he's been hurt. But he hasn't been like knocked out quote, max Holloway, put a beaten on him. I mean, you're right. 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What about you any other fight on this card captured maj nation for one reason or another what I'm gonna go way down the line and say Bech Kohei averse is eat any. Has been booked like five times. Is that the new versus toady division? Has been booked already like four times ridiculous. And always something happens either end, and you know, not gonna would finally it's happening. I'm curious. I'm here for the best go hysteria. Christmas. She's got a little bit of it to, you know, be like, yeah. That may world misdemeanor. Be and things like that. And it's funny like they're all the fans are like no who is by. Then that was like the most replied tweet. Yeah. She's she's a bit of a troll artist. This one I'll pick the the sad story here clearly going because Jay ped-. So we had to go there. A lot of knowledgeable talking happy. Yeah. Yeah. Happy about it for the big is a lot of people have said, you know, what is doing? It would be Japan. Remember Japan is still living with these are reported documented, but they are still allegations about, you know, marital abuse, and and drug use to get how much that's true how much of his not. I don't really know. But certainly there's a cloud over him. Danny. What is he going to do with BJ a few wins? What are they gonna do with them? If you lose this. I hope they stop giving him vice in what way or the other one way or the other. I think BJ pension retired years ago. I mean, he I think after that second second loss of Frankie Edgar right when you dropped the one forty five I think we should have been done there. But you know, he he always he kept fighting. And here we are. And you just hear these reports again, they're, you know, reports like you say shit. But like, you know, it was his ex raid said, you know, Hughes's camps the states over and that's very worrisome, and we know for example, Ferguson had a bit of. Some, you know, mental mental issues and the UCLA to step in. And he said something like I'm working with the solve this out. I hope I hope that the UC does the same would be J pen. I these are just like you say Sion's, but you look at his age you look at you know, he hasn't won a fight it almost a decade. Now is ten nine years that I hope that you have seen steps in there'd be like BJ. Let's figure this thing out. What you want to do because I certainly don't want. See, I'm I'm gonna watch just because it's on the card and look at the end of day, you kind of do wanna see what happens, right? But you know, as a fan, I'm a fan of Japan. I don't wanna see them continue your back in the day when Dana still did his scrums, you know, advice and things like that. I remember this is clear as he was talking about BJ and being one of those guys is like he just doesn't know what to do with himself is not fighting on a training camp. He you know, you fear that he's going to get up to no good. He's going to start doing stuff that he shouldn't be things like that. Like, he was talking about a friend. You know, they would slip into that a little bit. And it's funny to see it's funny in the in the weird sense to see the time play out. And basically, we're at the. Same spot. Well, what he was saying years and years ago, and I think that that really is the case, you know, I think that you just look at it. And I don't think he knows what to do outside of fighting. And unfortunately, his name is intact. Like, we know who BJ Penn is really, you know, what we remember him will always remain there. But we're where he's at right now in life is just very very difficult. And it's weird because it's fight game. You don't wanna see guys that you kind of idolized for fan like fans idolize take too many beatings. It's just it seems cruel at some point. It's also scary. I mean, recently we've seen his generation there's been a few articles that have come out Venderley Silva as open CT above loose. Overall was the recent one we also know about Hugues as well. Look, you know, he is of that generation. And he he he did so well his career they never really took that punishment. He never was never knocked multiple times or anything like that. But nonetheless, we know how brutal. The sport can be men. I don't wanna see them in one of those because click we'd is still capable of veteran. He's been around. He's going to know how to handle himself in a fight. We've already seen him against Dennis Seaver who was basically an older guy on the way out of the UFC and he couldn't be deceiving. And then they put him against hall who's a BJ J guy who wasn't really like the biggest threat to like pound face with his fist. And that fight went the way. I'm just like, I'm not sure what we should be looking for in this fight an exit. That's what it is that a few times. So I hope if if it goes the way we fear I hope that we really. He does go through that exit door and any thoughts about how it will do on paper view. There are some reports Jerry Bader over at his new project wizard had said that you have C two thirty which one six yet. Was it two hundred nine thousand hundred ten thousand a lot of different ways to evaluate the successor lack there. There's a threat by John Nash. I encourage everyone to. This was probably gonna do real bad. If I'm guessing thirty six way more intrigued than this card, and it was domestic the mystic. That's the big issue. Right. Because even you'll see some of those UC's Aldo one was at UC one forty two. I don't think it the very good numbers. Chad Mendez, even you'll see one thirty four which was their return. I don't remember doing gangbusters. So my thing I think that you're right. It has it's it seems doomed to be one of their one of their loans go out there and save fifty thousand about right something like that. I mean fifty thousand was just a core. Like it started there. Right. It used to be that was there's fifty thousand no matter what. So I don't know. So this is not the newest news. We did get chance to talk about. I don't wanna spend forever on to talk about it. Because it relates to this paper view news. So Brock listener tells you see he's not going to compete anymore. Although that's not quite true. When it would melt reporting Fairleigh Meltzer says that Brock wanted a flat fee of a certain number and you'll see said, no. So he said see you wouldn't want to be. And so they're going to go with DC versus stay to the big takeaway from this story, we evaluate everything is what what's the what's the number one lesson that the US should may not be as public about a kind of dream fight or novelty fight in such a way. Because what basically happens is like, hey, guys. Look, there's a Maserati that we're going to put you in Iraq around Mazar. And then like, Nope. You're going in the Tra what saying that's what it feels like in the end because they the the for the first, and then you get the second thing. And I'm like I feel like that's the buzzkill field. Of that is what strikes me immediately. If you get past that, and you think of it from an insider stamp went where you're basically, you know, this is a good fight. Right. Like, you're like Cormet, you knocked he knocked. But you know, he caught him to. And you're like, I don't think you saw the best mutual. I'm sure that they they do it again, maybe has a whole different outcome. There's still tons of doubt over that fight ended obviously holding the record for most defenses. And all that probably deserves. I know that we've talked about all the stuff a million times. He could make the case deserves to be there again. And I feel like that was probably their next fight. The other thing was those domino effect because they could if they if they're not waiting around for Brock listener if there, and I know that there was like this back surgery for gourmet and all this that would complicate it. But if they're not waiting around for Lessner John Jones was there. I mean, he's fighting these other guys they could have made that fight and been promoting that for July. You know what I mean or something like that? But because we're waiting on Brock, and we're you know, we were fixated on this. A lot of other things were altered is it good or bad. The Bronx mix. I think it's for for you. We'll for me was I think it is bad because I did I wanted to see that fight wanted to see DC get a big payday and walk away with a big fight. But man, I think this speaks to like how the UC is is handling business now because I wonder how many big fights we're gonna get because we saw kinda McGregor. You know, trying to make a comeback and all of a sudden that's been halted GSP retired wanting to fight again. And now Brooklyn doing the same thing, you know, with with that flat fee that they're getting from ESPN. They don't have that incentive as big of putting on these these big massive fights. And that's going to hurt the sport. Let me let me push against for just a second. Bring us up to me. And I had thought of it this way. But it's worth considering. I have made that argument, and I do think in general, it is true time-to-time, however, ESPN has got to be saying, right? If you don't want to bend at every interval, you don't have to exact, but at some point we wanna see Connor on at some point. We wanna see Brock where somebody. At some point. They do have to bring a big star through this. They not one hundred percent. I mean, they have they have an obligation to bring in subscriptions in in big numbers to be a Spion. Plus, but I would say that incentive is is a lot lower now because it's not strictly hurting their pockets. You know, whereas they have to put on big fights. Because that was exactly how they would make revenue. So yeah, there's some truth to that. But I think, you know, it's nice to get that up from payment, right? And I think Curtis blades put it put a tweet out that I think encapsulated everything pretty was like if you rock Messner holding out the division. But I think that goes a long way to the as well like, look, you just kept waiting for this guy and kept dangling this this fight. And now, we're not getting it isn't it's a huge bustle Brooks really going. I don't think Bronco going. No. Especially Meltzer thing is correct. 'cause usually pretty good about keeping. Low balling somebody. Does it sound like? The guy office. He does this a lot. He does some version of this kind of leveraging game and take it or leave it. And then he goes to makes the money. And then they'll go rose. I think he resurfaces again, also hashtag retirements. You thought about Brockton wanted share once you guys thought about it because I was out for variety reasons when the whole thing went down, and what is Bronx. What's that? He's done. I don't think he is. But let's say that he is like what would it be to me Brock has been like a mirror to Emma may to let you really see whatever may really about certain capacities at every interval. So he came in on this boom period, and you can you can read into the boom period of through Lessner. And other was a pro wrestling crossover on how big pay per view was at the time. And how important it was to be a big strong athlete a heavyweight at that time that's not necessarily the case anymore. But it was then, and then the diverticulitis thing I don't think there's any real analog for but his return at UFC two hundred and how did the work because they you saw to air and every interval his career. You can understand 'em a better by watching. How may was affected by him? Yeah. For better for worse by the win. True. You guys agree with that thought of that? But that's actually very true. He has literally been and right there for all of these things that Roussel. He's that Roussel. Yeah. And it's also because he hasn't been consistently fighting bright. So it's not like we've saw progressively things. Changing. He's literally stepped in different comes these bits. And so that you can see the change moving moment. I wonder if he's going to come in the US CNN, that's the next one. Again, it would sell you a lot about the growth of change and everything else. It's kind of funny in that regard. I'll start a little to. We haven't talked for a while. I feel like we got built or to twenty one this weekend. It's an interesting weekend for Biltmore, Danny is for two different reasons. Let's start with tournament. One. There's the tournament that was would take on MVP has this tournament petered out a little bit. What do you mean? Exactly. So does leave. I think fought what eight months ago for the first time. He's facing MVP. Maybe folks don't think it's that competitive because they really liked Douglas Lima, maybe didn't really know Douglas Lima. Maybe it's a lot of factors. I'm not here pooh-poohed tournament. Tournament is great. I'm not pulling the fight. I think the fight is grants. But she it's a tournament. Like the guy's got to where they got. I just I don't see a lot of chatter about it. I think this car has flown a little bit on the raider. But it's also there's so much going on in the world of may right now that you know, it's hard to stand out. But this this is a great tournament this something I'm really excited about because fans for the longest time, we're complaining and crying about how MVP wasn't getting any legit how they wanna see him. Get challenged. Will you got the chance? Now, we got the chance with Paul daily. But I feel like that didn't really scratch the two. Well, no sudden Douglas Lima, you know, he's gonna put it on VP. So at this point and the he's what thirty two years old. You know, fourteen fights into his career. There's no more catering. There's no more prospect building this is it either your legit or you're not we're gonna find out Saturday if he's not guy, and I feel like you can do kind of do the same thing you're doing. Is you're selling the Barrett tournament the merit to me. I'm asking about to what degree has it maintained visibility by virtue of its own strengths. I think it's I think there's an argument that has dwindled down a little bit and convinced you're convinced to convince me, you know, what I mean. Yeah. I mean, there is some some interest lost because how long it's taken to the layout album. Yeah. And it doesn't help also the champion ROY McDonough with those comments that came out that also, you know, you want to see a fired up ROY rather than like, hey, you know, I don't know if I have it in me anymore. So yeah, I think it has petered out part of it is Douglas Lima never seems to attract for whatever reason diehards critical. I we just don't like make him an event. We don't circle him. I don't know why it is honest. If you watch him fight who so go is so good. And he's literally like an assassin the way he approaches it, I find him vacillating in that sense. But for whatever reason he has not translated. And so he's been, you know, white as quite as usual. I think the bigger issue was that daily MVP because I was there and that building like sagged and died by the second was not a storm. It was not. And I mean, I think that for some reason why he was like watching the flowers in the garden Wilton die all at once. And I for whatever reason this is carried over I've not many people are talking about. If m VP had gone in there and just smoke ball daily. I there would have been a lot more chatter about this. But he he just didn't do it. Also give it some time. Because right now, we have this. It could be very exciting. Could be a good fight. And then in June. We have you know, racy McDonald's. NYC cart has turned out to be nominal looking forward to that being here. I just I'm not again, I'm sold tournament. I love it idea tournament. I think the fights not have gone that great. But the people who are there should be there. I just don't looking around. And I'm like out like, I don't see people chat about it too much that takes us to the main event. This one actually has captured a lot of attention. It's a chip chip fight. If you think about it, right? If I'm not mistaken it is. Although it's a weird we're way, but it's a grudge match, man. Right. Right. Oh, the pit bull brothers at all Patricia pimple. And whoever runs with Twitter cat has been hammering might Chandler four years now, Mike while his brother believe twice they fought. Like thirty times it feels like he's always going as a pit bull. The Hatfield mccoys show. Do you like how I say? I love how egregious you're love. It's a little bit war one-sided than it is mutual. But the fact that Chandler has the winds and Patrizio has the animosity it makes an interesting tension. You just start with the fact that a partition is raised right? Like, they couldn't have faced each other. And that's that was one of the reasons when he's fighting for Triki, he's not gonna treat out and Saint Louis, and you know, the other guys barking at them, you know, you're like, well, you guys can't fight. But here you get past the partition, and you realize that there's a revenge factor. Right. Like, this one guy wants to avenge his brother against this guy who took a soul put it in a jar on his bookcase for a while. And I'm like to me, I love those. I love those setups. You know, the they're a an organic feel of bad blood. Always translates to a good fight. I feel like and Michael channel. Let's this to these are two of the first bell tower stars there guys who are or through and through though, the guys there have been there the whole. The whole way and there's an element to that Chandler should win. Right. Like Chandler's who he is. But he ever so often takes his foot off the gas and loses this kind of fight. So we see with going back to the we'll Brooks series. I thought there was gonna smoke little Brooks didn't. And then, you know, the the Brent premiss fight. So I think that elements doubt plays over just a little bit too. And that adds something for me, the bad blood is was really capturing my attention. I have this clear picture of like when when Chandler knocked out Patrice de. And then you just you just see Patrice you on the case. They're just going back in front of me. Not that his brother in front of them. I was there. There the cage Hector heckled him. And then Lynn immediate of us called himself a dog owner like whoa. This is super intense. And I'm looking forward to it. And like you said these are two bell tour. Oh, jesus. It's always nice because it feels like sometimes the big fights Beltre's able to put on his because of names from some other organizations. This is this is one hundred percent tour, and you know, it's nice to see the belts were brand out there. Also, it's kind of interesting that both UFC Biltmore tour within a couple of months of each other or having a featherweight featherweight champ against lightweight champ. I suspect though, max was a really big featherweight. Patricia was not a really big. So he's not he's not by any means a small one. He's far from big named Chandler is an enormous field like count of Monte, Cristo revenge and taking blood or it doesn't matter the size of he just wants to go exact revenge. Let me ask you about. What aspect I had Michael Chandler on our on Monday. And I. Asked him about it because something really sticking out to me Patrizio has been out there. Just absolutely beating the drum that Michael Chandler's PD's now to our knowledge that is not true. And I asked him about explicitly. He said, it's absolutely not true about it. Okay. I asked to is there any Barrett to it. Because a lot of media will be like, how do you feel about it? No. Is it true? Is it true or not true at all after his answers? I don't suspect it, but I had ask she denies it. And then I asked him different question. Which was do you feel like your reputation has been stayed by just getting out there and say these kinds of things, and you don't really have. It'd be all you can say, no, it's it's like highs appeal to beat your wife. Right. But I didn't be my wife feel wife. Like us. What is how do we feel about fighters accusing each other things like this? And how do you cover it when it is? Essentially kind of baseless. So if in the end, it came out the Chandler was cheating or is doing PD's. I guess you'd be look back on this. Well, he was trying to tell us we warring, but he was trying to tell us, but because it's unsubstantiated. It's just kind of out there. I always feel like this. This kind of thing is a bad look. Yeah. Because you why you just that's I mean, they're very little very few things that are below the belt. But this is one of them we start making stuff up. That's the cases you can't just start making stuff up about somebody. I mean, it's just people always say like, oh, we'll Cody was saying about TJ, and it all came true. Okay. A lot of it came through. But you could go down the list of people who've accused the other person at none of it has come true. So I I was I was battling with this. I was like how are you supposed to cover this? You know, I don't really know yet because you kind of have to cover just because it's part of trash off. Right. But at the same time, it is about look not only for that fighter. We're just for the sport in general. You know? Yeah. So. We got to be careful in stating that look, you know, these are claims channel has never failed any drug tests and kind of be very clear about that. I know here we are talking about Chandler with drug. What for the fact that Patrizio brings it up? We would probably never bring his Michael Chandler, right? Like, he's a guy who's been nothing. But loyalty pellets thought opportunities he goes into Dopson, you know, this this kid and has this whole like feel-good story going on. And yet we enter we end up talking about them in a way that or speculation of something substantial it's really weird. The fight game is very strange and how it works. But it's says you man, the power you have of microphone just kind of repetition. If you just keep saying stuff, eventually it sticks. Somebody here's the he wasn't that guy. Then you get busted for dis. You know what? I mean. It's just it's one of those those strange setups. But I don't like it. I don't like, what's what's the where are the Mounties? Then if somebody's going to make up stuff about you know, or if you say something like that will where's the evidence? True. If you're going to come out with these claims, I would have to support him rather than you know, this is you don't need evidence to make claims. That's a good point. Yeah. All right. So then that takes us to discuss too brief. Chuckling illness one Kleiner cowboy so cowboy winds de defeating allied to look at some of Cowboys wins Dallas to win stands up there as one of the. Yeah, this is designed for him to lose. I think what do you mean? Well, I mean the times he's faced guys like this. I feel like the guys who, you know, maybe are at the top or near it, or for whatever reason. That's when he has dropped the ball. Like, he's he beats the guys who are kinda usually the the the up incomers like those the processes able to beat them. He's able to kind of you know, discard some of the the no names the Matt Brown's the guys who are the brawler that he's able to do that. But there's a guy who just seems to perio- sometimes he'll he'll fight down. I don't know why he just doesn't show up in the moment. So this it was telling for him to go beat Iaquinta. This was a big one. All right. So then it gets to this question of like should he face Conor? Let me get your temperature on this. Would you like that fight? What do you love that fight? Guess actually the better question. So I love I love any idea that Conor McGregor would fight one of these guys like he certainly one of them at this point. I like they they've had you know, they've had multiple moments where we've contemplated going back to that. What that big go big event or whatever that was back in the day. They've been kind of added since then we've had many times where we've contemplated it. And I feel like at this point Cowboys throwing couldn't put himself in a better position to get it. And so at this point, I hope it happens. I don't know if I would say, I love it. I love it as much as if gates you fought, you know, something like that. There's there's a couple of fights they can put together. But yeah, I would like to see it. I just wanna see right to stop flirting with the idea and actually book it, but at this point, I'm like, I don't know. I don't even know what McGregor like he you hear Dana white. And he says, he's negotiate. We're gonna have something in the summer that would make sense, we'll probably want so I hope for Cowboys sake. And I think that that's a winnable fight also for Conor McGregor. I think it makes sense on that level. I love. Let me ask you this talk about a little already given what we talked about with Brock. Do you have concerns that they will not be able to make a cleaner and cowboy fight in terms of ESPN money the plus thing on yards? Yeah. Of course. I think it's very possible that it doesn't happen. But I'm not I'm not too worried about you know, how the negotiations are gonna go down because Conor McGregor is not that champion. The ball keeps rolling with Habib defending his belt against us Emporia against whatever else comes up this year with the Brock situation was that Brock brought wanted to fight the champion saw the all of a sudden, you know, you guys like Francis and guy JD, yes, where very deserving of fighting for that belt waiting and having to take other fights that they probably shouldn't have the champion would have been active right on. So that's my issue with it. But look this fight is not clogging anything up. So you're gonna take your time to for whatever. How long's it takes it takes to build, you know, do it. But I'm I'm all for Budweiser property offer. I mean back in the day when he was. Fighting Nate Diaz McGregor. It didn't make complete sense, obviously, the circumstance that put them together. And then it became the series in off kind of went on as many aggressions. But I feel like this is a fight similar because Nate DS to me was like a, you know, anti anti man, he was kind of joined forces with Connor at the right time. And they were actually kind of fighting the OC together in this weird way. I- Sironi is kind of the opposite. And that sense. He's more like the company guy, but he's similar in terms of his approach to the fight game. Like the way he fights the brings it every time the way he kinda just no nonsense it, and I I love that aspect. I love guys are like that. You just wanna see a guy going there doesn't matter. What Connor says to him tries the rubble, you know, what I mean like you're going to go out there, and he's going to fight exactly the same. So I like that setup. Also, something I mentioned the something that you see needs to get better at his cloning their stars. Like this Cody. Yeah, at this point McGregor is is is, you know. I mean, it's he's thing. But he's also like a platform for other fighters to boost their profile just like or like, Ronda Rousey did to Holly home. Right. So you need to start matching him up in in in fights where you know, the beside can get you know, some benefit. So like, no Mogomedov, right? Exactly. Look at them. Remember, Lutely, he became all of a sudden, a huge. Just from that rivalry with Conor McGregor, and you know, Conor McGregor doesn't have that many fights left if he's gonna ever return. He's have tour three I don't see them having like a six fight career at this point. So put him up against other guys that have characters that you know, that you can potentially get out there and and putting big cards. Let's make a bet if they make it what actually asking this way. Bigger prediction. Do they make it or not happen in this in the summer? I'm gonna say it does say doesn't say doesn't bed. I'm not I'm Betty does it happen in the summer. Oh, it could happen fallish. I think. I can say I think it happen. Yeah. Yeah. The timeframe me right is like the slippery slope wondering if you wanna go before Habib in September or after right and a party feels like he wants to go after an interesting way of thinking about it too. Yeah. He also has to see how that plays out because it doesn't Emporia you know, manages to get that title. He has a Hillary fought beat Dustin like, I don't think he maybe he should I don't know the he particularly fears that matchup at any particular. But all of a sudden, that's a you know, he can he has more of a claim to get that fight. Then Habib rematch writer for the true. Another brings us to another lightweight that I wanted to discuss here. That's Tony Ferguson now there are indications this week. Pardon me, gentlemen. I'm sorry. There is just blow my nose on. There are some indications this week that Tony Ferguson believe, bro. Commode who reported it that twenty we talked about it hit changed management rooms he was with paradigm. And now he's with Balaji, and she met with you see officials, and while nothing has been formally announced it appears like things are very much moving in the right direction Danny for a comeback yet. Do you feel from the outside looking in that enough He's been crossed and is have been dotted that you feel comfortable and again, it's not our choice. But we're just observers wondering aloud do you feel comfortable with the idea of him returning to the cage? Given what we know about the struggles. He's been fixing. I do I do, you know, there's a few signs out there that one he was we know that he was working with the UC to, you know, get the help that he needed in to his wife dropped the restraining order that that she had, and you know, they're back together. So, you know, those are those are all good signs. Also, like, I don't think he's going to take any fight. You know, any? Any quick fight. It's going to be probably a nice build up for his return. So yeah, I think I'm comfortable with him returning to the cage. And I'm sure he's going to get a bunch of tests in whatever commissioning decides to fight under right? So yeah, I'm fine. With return? You gotta almost trust the system a little bit trust the officials that are. I mean. What it is. You've got to trust them that they're doing the right thing by him. And then you got to watch him. It's basically it's similar in a weird way to win mass Holloway was going to fight obviously. And then showed those weird signs and they had the call the fight off. Yeah. Which was at which fight anyways. You know what I'm talking about? That was befell fight or. Yes. I'm sorry, Frankie. So we had to see him. It was weird. It was weird to contemplate him fighting in when it finally happened. And we saw him go through his fight week. You know, he's a little bit of an Accenture fella. Just like Ferguson. They have their, you know, their idiocy crisies. They're very different kinds of guys. But we saw we go through his fight. We can on soap. And then look great in there. I think that that's Ferguson's blueprint. He has to just go through his we'd be the be who is look good in there. And then we'll put that aside. I think that it's going to take that sort of thing. Then you gotta distrust, the officials know what's going on. Then we here's a part of the is hard about trust of the officials letting guys like Penn fight your legs, drew, you know, obviously BJ Penn. Well, I don't know. Is that a guy that should be fighting right now, there's a lot of questions like Jesus, man. Like, it's a different question. I don't I'm I'm with you guys. I kind of feel like whatever reason I feel soothed concerns are largely assuage think also part of I think I think it's fair to compare that to the BJ situation, but there's also key differences there. Like BJ fight skill wise. You know, he doesn't belonging there anymore like fight skills. Right. So why exactly twenty years, and you know, he's a killer. Right. You know, he he's history. What is guy so utterly unqualified at this point, which is a legend, but he's not currently competing as a top tier lightweight computer mean he's far from that. You're a little guy like that compete. Who else are you gonna let compete right? You're gonna be like an I get I feel like. Two things. Give me pause one. Is that toady is so much more visible than BJ at this point so wrong with Tony it would blow up more. So that gives me like, I think you've sees aware of the optics of it. Right. And then to eventually his wife has really there was a video put out you guys are watching mixed. Molly wapner missing I it's a guy who sounds like I don't know like a Cody island guy who sells hot dogs or something. I don't know. But he's super smart sibling gets a he. 'cause that's the narrators voice. He makes e two videos. Yeah. But they're, but they're long form, and they happen after stories almost over and he made a point. And I thought I was absolutely true. Which was Tony's wife went out of her way to make sure that toadies reputation was not sullying this by noting her initial public statement that he's a great father, again husband were just working through things to your point dropping it. So all of the response to Tony was hey, get well sued, man. Yes. Versus BJ who ever has been secretive and quiet, and you know, behind the seeds, this is kind of out in the open. So to me, it feels like checkup my wrong, a little more transparent a long little trivia. And it helps that he kind of came up. Hey, guys, I'm gonna seek the help. I need just doing one little. I haven't really heard much from David in. And it's almost like they're sneaking them through these cards these days, and I'm like, it's just an odd. But it is it is it similar in a weird is, you know, like in spirit, but it's it's obviously a completely different setup for this. I agree with you. I think the scrutiny is so big on a guy like Ferguson. So they got to be right. The fights the he is at least the orbit of our dusted Bieb. I know Connor you know, what I mean? Like, that's a lot of media. Those guys H E, right? Which is nice. He's not fighting any prelims. And he thought about who he should fight. That's the problem with light with division right now. It's so close to that question. It could be gauged. Damon? I mean, it won't happen now. Now, there's no easy way to make it unless he somehow slips in there. Somebody gets hurt whatever. Yeah. That'd be the weirdest thing for of Ferguson to finally get the fight with her Maga made of after somebody falls out. He goes in there. But that's one of those situations where I wanted to see that fight just because of the styles. I think he's got the weird unorthodox is sort of almost intangibles that might give the the trouble. I would still have to sit up obviously, that's not happening. So you can take any of those other names, and I'd be fine with it. But I still want to see that one. Yeah. I think if I were twenty I say, not just wait. I mean Habib been poor. You're supposed to fight in September. Right. Look. Poor. You didn't show up for the ADS Vike? He has some issues we have hasn't showed up to other fights as well. We know how crazy a sport is. You know, we know how they UC machine they always have to keep rolling. So guy could fall out and then. Thing you know, so ridiculous. I think that that's how manga may will fight. It was never saw it coming all of a sudden they'll be fighting. Feel in he'll fill in. I know this unpredictable. Basically being the setup for those guys. All right. So the takes us to the final topic before under the radar PF L makes debut. ESPN tonight. Now, it's crazy about it is this is supposed to be PF L twelve I think and in the press release of the call you fill one because there's a new season, Luke mono. Yeah. PF L twelve season too. But okay, how do we feel about going on ESPN Danny feel like it's gonna make it? I think so I think this is a great move for them because he's great. Yes. Well, the season's over are they anywhere of a different place. Really what it comes to attracting a fan base? They will man because he SPN is. It's the sports fans platform, right and sports fans are used to certain order certain hierarchy, right and soccer. We football. You know, we sports fan are custom to a certain rule set in in certain pattern where they can plan out and see route for their favorite team in this case favorite fighter with the. You've see do you see I work on this time. And I sometimes have a hard time following the sport, you know, because there's so much happening so much to consume with PF L pretty straightforward. So I think if you're sports fan, and look you're not like super into fighting. But like you find it entertaining. I it's an easy thing to get into. Okay. This guy's fighting this guy. There's a point system is easy. A follow. So I think this is a perfect platform for them. I dig it. And I hope it works. I really do. Because last the last season I felt like a got it did what I wanted to do right leg. A couple of guys who were recyclables who are able to get in there and win this. And there's the one guy at Utah, Sean O'Connell he the way is now a commentator exactly this season. So see how these things kind of pay for it. I I was religion to see if a lot of people would want to join the fuel fell after the last season because you do see these millionaire these guys cash in the million jacked up, and it is priced by me. It hasn't worked at Zac like that they brought in the few names. But I feel like this visibility gives them a little bit more. I feel like it's a nice second step, obviously, I think it's on ESPN two, right? But still a very big step for them and the visibility. I think might help it because there was a lot it picked up steam last season when it got toward the final like we're talking about it then but we were not talking about it during the season. It was very much sorry. Yeah. Sorry was very much just filler. Yeah. And then you're right in the playoffs. Yeah. You're like. Oh, okay. Well, at least this season hitting the ground running with this. And it'd be it'd be cool to see like what they're able to do with. Kayla Harrison start living. Let me get to that. So like I disagree fundamentally with the idea that sports fans want to see a tournament. I don't think they would get in the way of turnament. I think it depends like anything else on the nature of the tournament itself. What I do think is going to be a big test of the ESPN platform is killing Hairston if they could just find a branch for her to walk over is gonna be a star. It seems like one of the most obvious things ever other than do. They have of way to get her across because she's got everything they could possibly want a cool story at background, you know, she's a basic to interview like, you know. Ferocious competitor like the whole nine. The can they find to fight. To fight again earth. She's fighting even with a substitute. I don't know who big dogs fighting our little dogs fighting, but but kill Harrison, she's fighting the Russell particularly jacket, right? Like, I knew that attention to that to me. It's like they gotta find names determined makes them to your point. But it's about getting the brush off some people like the Cerro Kaufman's who are champions in other leagues. And even. He was. Even though it sat at least he's a name. You're throwing into this mix that they've got a right because who who serve out and finds somebody named Morgan fryer. I think are freer I'm Shasha pronounces her name. But nobody's ever heard of this person. I feel like most of them were would work figures. But I think that that's what you gotta start. Yeah. You gotta make them. You know, I if you're creating the division for keilor's, and you've got to the those you have to create all the concerns, and everybody's gonna come to the one thing. I'll say I never thought it'd be sports cared about World Series of fighting. I'd never thought they cared about the PF L. I do think that ESPN cares. And so that to me is a bit of a difference there. All right. All right for our last segment before you after the beats I've now for under the radar, and there have been a bunch of stories was one story kind of float around there. The either we didn't talk about today. Kind of interesting worth at least mention start their worker way for it. What do you got? All right. So two guys. We haven't heard from an a longtime both signed fight. My boy who's been a handsome went for five years or something basically recluse who you know, we we've found out about through the tough series and had some fights. But he's kind of a recluse a very eccentric guy. He's returning to Louis painting. I believe and maybe in South Carolina. I can't remember Greenville, and then and also Gobert Melinda. Who? Two thousand seventeen forgive as hiding in plain sight a lot of times with all his analytical work, but he signed on for a fight. And he's the guy he's fighting Arnold. Alan is I had my because he's very quiet five in on the OC. The only reason we don't talk about because he fought all of his fights in Europe. It's it's one of those weird doer dicey situation against a really tough, dude. So those guys it's good to see them like the old names. Crop back backup. Mark Monday or former colleague reporter ESPN two Erin PICO switch training training Albuquerque under Greg Jackson. That's pretty exciting news because I you see a guy like people, you know, four into soap promising, but he's had already. You know, two major setbacks. You wanna see them kind of switch camps in and get different looks. And you know, how we can get the best out of him. And I feel like this is this is one of and I feel like over, you know, book you'll regret Jackson wings. They can do that. They can they can there's so many experienced guys because that's what he needs. We know he skilled he just needs that experience, and hopefully they can they have to be excited to be. And you know, they love those types of projects. He just seems. He's got that wrestling mentality where I'm going to show up, and you know, work, and yes, coach I'm going to put in the work. And and knowing how skill those guys are like, it's pretty exciting. I was gonna do that. What I think the second one. I would bring up is. It was a boxing fight. Did you guys watch the canola photo dissolve? Oh, I didn't get a chance to see it. But I heard design was quite a platform. Do they royally after that up? Yeah. Here's the thing about if you watch billets dissolved you would be like, oh, that's more or less the Biltmore experienced, which I'm accustomed do. They really did a really bad job. Like, the the the shooting of the fight from a camera position was five but not good. They messed up dago Jacobs's intro. They ran the house music go back to go back to stop restarted. Now, I'm gonna watch the fight. You can't hear the there's no Mike of the ring. So you can't really hear the punches land on does the best part and to make bad as worse. I do like bride Kenny and Sergio Mora more than I've actually had both in studio. They're great. But they were kind of I think you're exaggerating. How much they were advocating on behalf of Cannella, but they they they did a little bit. And so here's the funny about it. Sergio Bora, criticized by Daniel Kobe on Twitter, Sergio Bora lashed out at him, which I was kind of interesting. Here's the thing. I wanted to bring up it did six hundred thousand of yours domestically and point worldwide, which they considered to be a success eilly break that up because it doesn't sound like TV numbers. But they're getting us benchmarks for what they're looking for keep that thousand domestic with Millward worldwide. But they got very happy with that. So there on the. Gresham out there on the I don't know. But the main the main event was w Bryant cancer, Joe Bora, and then then Chris Mannix. Oh god. And then had the after the the fight analysis. And it was who's the dude who got fired from ESPN for leaking info on Virk or. Yeah. So like that right. So he does own hired him, and he was interviewing Sugar Ray Leonard purolator head on like bright, white pants. There was a blinding me to watch. All right. And then in the back the DJ was playing like terrible like black hole sewed remixes. So loud, you could not hear what they were saying this thing I'm gonna to go watch the whole thing desert has a lot of work to do for their boxing production. Biltmore it'd be like show village seems to be ready to rack, but that was rough. All right. We appreciate you guys to again, I believe we're back next week. But I gotta see whatever is happening. Hopefully by that a look like a mangled idiot. Who's been in a car wreck at I like, I'm envious chasing speaks to your your fortitude to show up here in full. Just want bigger paychecks. Okay. Enjoy UFC two thirty seventy two all the coverage you'll need with. A gimme crews who is down there it resil- enjoy built or to twenty one. A Young's is exactly the folks on the ground there as well. 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Episode 168: RECAP Conor vs Cowboy | Stephen A. Smith RIPS Cowboy

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Episode 168: RECAP Conor vs Cowboy | Stephen A. Smith RIPS Cowboy

"Traded football for some here then got what tried in the face with baby fu-kang over the place it came with him started survivor fall this makeup the old yeah we're good chad were good dude it's monday eh january twentieth it is nine forty a. m. nine we go fresh off the plane where i landed whatever city is doing stand up in on sunday literally fresh off the plane straight up fresh off the planet sound like peanuts and plane stewardess i came straight from san jose edit a sunday night show even though i hate sundays i hate working on sundays smiley day off but somehow got talked into it so i did a sunday night show either is fun shout san jose love san jose so the most tickets verse soul yes it does as fantastic man the whole squad came out my favorite managers there at the san jose improv english gentlemen and then and yeah a bunch of people all belt or squads up there so josh thomson came out rich chow album the whole entire a squad of was there we ate we stayed at the AC hotel there san jose's interesting ma'am because it's not that busy it's just it's not like a major light san francisco or LA or new york it's i mean it's dad man it's just never been there's traffic there's not and then there came mamik should get to the venue early on sunday night because the niners are playing guy cool with the niners i mean you know going to the super bowl wasn't busy i mean the bars were the bars were crowded but not like you know if the dodgers are the lakers or you know something's popping off here it's pak can't go anywhere just whatever you know i don't know strange it's kinda cool though kind of cool went to my opener dangerous brown assad he's from there so we went to his parents house dad's rocket scientist and he makes delicious barbecue so we went up there's a football game jahnke any pictures of him not i think any pictures of his dad there the smallest people i've ever seen i've never riphil bigger my life they're so tiny assad i don't know five seven his dad to five one is mom five-foot sister five foot i was i was king kong in their household australia up king kong whole squad was there yeah man i love san jose san jose we we went to a place by the hotel people tell us to go there called the highlife highlights highlight famous joe's or something like that now famous joke highlife yet tyler something fucking delicious they do like and the charcoal the charcoal she put an highlife just same yeah san diego highlife life henry's world-famous say joe's joe henry yet henry's but they do the yeah the grilled in oak pit fucking nice man delicious steak ribs so nice there through all the locals rat just chilling just straight straight up chilling man i was watching on netflix known in the hotel room too much derived so get on my net flicks it yes seen the big ones the aaron hernandez documentary everyone did you listen to podcasts the boston globe podcast they did it i've heard heard that one that's why the most in-depth aaron hernandez stuff you'll your hair i i thought that you know people were yelling in the boston globe podcast i thought this documentary is actually better way better it's also like the sound terrible because you know he's also a murder her and it didn't go his way a lot of ways but died i felt sorry for him but you feel like oh kind of a a shitty deal man like he's the whole upbringing everything it's like man with what a sad story what if i can sad story the other thing too you know the the the podcast kind of touched on it you know he's a bisexual man he likes them dudes and i fucking i think it came out by as sooner saw these fox on the specials on netflix like mitch the something off about them there's his high school quarterback in the dad and they're like little thirsty for media in the interviews and everything's all to clean seem like natural like they were like dropping quotes and the dad was mike you know he's like you know if if your mom gets to divorce and you and you wake up the next morning and there's a man in his underwear cooking bacon you feel some type of way hey he had he had everything ready like all these sound but i'm like gods i'm just don't feel right here and then his his son who was supposedly aaron hernandez quarterback in high school who he was hooking up with their fucking each other he was he was just like you know aaron just he can be himself and we're just this you know we're in the closet and we were like hanging out with each other all the time epidemic come out though we're that day the guy who hooked up with aaron came out was like i guess completely completely full of shit i i saw something smells fishy real fishy when those on camera but go watch these two are i'll tell you what man find you girl that's loyal like aaron hernandez girl jesus christ he murdered his he murdered entered her sisters man she knew it she hid the weapon everything and she still cited within hernandez while she hit the weapons everything everything it's just such a heartbreaking story man it's so heartbreaking and then just being a dumb ass man and then when he when they do give him life for killing odin lloyd when they when he killed odin lloyd would you know i i do think he killed odin lloyd for sure the other guys he he did not do it the court found him innocent of that he had this this other bad apples hanging out with you probably did it but when they gave him life for killing odin lloyd he didn't flinch he did not waver it nothing you seem as i all right fuck it but then when he then he gets go back on trial so you get that right they give them life then he's in prison then ask go back i think a year you're eighteen months later and go back on trial for these other two murders which is right by the wilburn boston theater district i do stand up at he goes back on trial for killing two people there after nightclub incident so he's on that trial and you just like he's talking to his agent he's talking to his friends stuff you hear him on the the phone he just like i guess it got them to where he was at you know as far as his confidence i mean i don't need you just doesn't realize the the consequences that that he's dealing he won't up hill battle he's time when he gets out you talking about homeboy did what they got life bro but so they he he gets found innocent of that and they show them the courtroom and he starts crying and then you figure out why he has he has life is he crying over this because you realize what's going went on it's heartbreaking you is gone 'cause that's he's crime because a he wants so he's gotta vindicated that be the last time you can see his wife and his a baby girl because he knew he was going to kill himself oh yes yup it's super heartbreaking men super heartbreaking you had to it is a a documentary and then you find out they right they wanna look into his brain and he has some of the worse e tiv ever heard of ever ever ever her how fucking scary is that man so scary super super scary because he who you know not that old and he has that i mean you gotta figure this is a bunch of guys out there we don't know about bunch of guys yeah they said some of the worst cases they've ever seen terrible man terrible terrible that's really sad yeah yeah it's just like fuck dude you view them a little different you know you view them a little different but it it's it's goodman it's definitely worth a watch on netflix will be the series cheers cheers with cheerleaders shorts here yeah cheerleaders now i think we talked about this last time the director of this who also did last chance you was like cheerleading is harder than football chill i like the headline so he gets rating but chill you know what i'm saying they do flips everything's all good it's it's good it's really good it's weird it's like this little podunk likes like fuck in judo college in texas and they're like the best there's just the best they have the nick saving a female cheerleading coaches she does a damn thing the basket on there i forget his name but he does get matt talk as they call it there he is he's like come on you can carry let's go he's like the best you see his energy like damn he's like this and he's like this big fat black oh fat yeah he's the big fat black that's him right there you know just drawing the left's like email and doesn't fit in it's interesting because everyone has a story immature leader yeah the cheerleader she's really hot but she only does one thing really well strange and then there's like one girl who has been a star since she was like eight and she's like this huge like you to run she has these overzealous there's that's she's pretty fucking hot that's around on the far right ditch and she has she has the youngest she's the stage parents and the panthers go wherever she goes and weird vibe man with the dad wade the whole thing again my fucking weird radar was on with the with their hernandez boyfriend in highschool and the dad and then with this this girl's parents man had a very strange very very strange i don't the worst yeah but he didn't even the dads creepy with it too i don't know man ah there's something weird going on there i don't know look into it so i'm saying look into it man or this is this college high school college okay good yeah breath college but she's been a star since she's like fucking eight because she's one of the first girls like feel my thing on youtube so you got me on youtube and that she has like this huge cult song own chilling world and then she went here and i don't know what's going why she's in texas just because they're so good it's interesting i don't know shit about cheerleading but it it's it's an interesting watch yeah there's the beginning yeah is not one straight dude on that team either just the way it goes my friend was a cheerleader oh my bush upheld AC cheerleader yeah so there are i mean was that you will you say your friend know my friend from yeah and he's huge tall big dude he wasn't wasn't marine two straight he has a girlfriend right now can you kind of skirted around uh-huh bye-bye coffee hernandez high school quarterback bro yeah it's just i don't know it's just that's what you know they're attracted to i guess there's some straight ones though for sure makes sense did you want to do it there's one dude who sue breath leg and his brothers wanting to play like football and you just like now i'm gonna the chair and i mean he's a beast chapelle lacey's a freak too yeah athletic is fucking so doing it he was saying all the all the moms want hook up with them all the goddamn time yeah well shot a cheerleader talk about a businessman chouli tough let's let's see your kid dedicates her life to see if a little girl right that one's a youtube stars who knows what she's gonna do but so what do you go from there what do you do there's no there's no olympics would he do you all your life all your money and your time i'll take some way from school it's fucking grind it's hard i get some kids have these girls have of CT and shitty and dropped on their head by these dudes and all that for where's what's the endgame cheerleaders only make much right like even the NFL even like that i NFL i think it's two hundred dollars a game you work eight games all the tough fucking go man i think the the NBA get paid the most go gymnasts or something because that's a career right i was thinking that that one who's the youtube the hot that one i i don't know doing backflips and shit can can she be simone biles or some shit how's that work but i think she just focus on that she's not doing like okay t. are making a pyramid and shit your there's so many competitions and i like both cheerleading and gymnastics you feel like you kind of have to pick one or the other yes i think you can have fast the other one but aaron that is in that you no i stay on that thousand pounds sister should is fantastic on the saudis and the saudis that's my shit right now man that's my shit this episode is uh-huh 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most of the card BI saw the big dog saw the big dog man i tell attention he's when i first started doing stand up try ed like navigate away from big UC's but i i think the number of things that caused this to happen but we we sell out no matter what we don't have to really worry about the season i think it's about of u. of c. kind of tailoring off a little bit and then also you know a lot of things going on but that's a good sign that being said the calmer gregor danz rony fight i think if you wrote the the final results it's of this fight in hollywood script they do to it he he needs to have some sort of controversy here the needs to be you can't just go in there and steamroll limb and still have great here not there was an there was an here out of place during this aspen you know i think a lot of the i don't say naysayers because i'm not a camera greg naysayer i'd i'd conor mcgregor questions going in this fight if you listened to the the breakdown lou thomas than i did a lot of a lot of questions questioning of things we just did it no conner's team says he's running his own camps sees the most dedicated he's not drinking he wants to do this he wants to be his is all these aspirations is he focus can you be focused and have that much money in the bank not much success what happens to them if you were to lose there's just a lot a lot of questions that needed to be answered and they got answered diatta answered gregor he you know flawless performance it's a straight up flawless performance and as far as you know moving forward this even with the naysayers always gonna be there the dummies are always going to be there but you know for anyone who is thinking about conner's potential future i mean there's it's it's tough to hate him now because all those fights let's go through what would be nice room so you wanna go habib which is it next before a number of reasons the time off his fight coming up and this the other thing dana go you know him i could be would be the biggest ever but everyone keeps in could be described this dude kabaeva leave has the toughest fight of his life coming up in april the toughest fight of his life that is not a gimme that is by far the worst matchup he's ever experienced in his life that thing eight let's say kobe gets out of there with a whirlwind of decision he can of fish i promise you ain't finishing tony ferguson there's a finnish it's don't i in finnish kebbi bet money on that however let's say could be beat them which i'm sure vegas has him by decision that things not going going to be pretty man convenient you beat the fuck up he might win but he's eating some elbows there's gonna be cut there's gonna be problems that ain't gonna be a fight where he can fight tony ferguson jason and then a month later take a fight i guarantee he it's one hundred twenty days suspension are faint toady ferguson win lose draw one hundred twenty days suspension that thing ain't can be quick nick nothing's gonna be a fucking war was the best to one the best to fifty five hours on the fucking plant that's the best matchup at lightweight of all the time that things can be a war so everyone keeps gone yet kabibi man kebbi discount on the teeth are you shitting me i can be has such a difficult little task in front of him yes you just assuming he gets by that the near assume and he gets by flu with flying colors and there's no repercussions assuming ramadan wins ramadad data once at so you look at the lay off the time his fight against tony if him and connor were to fight you're at the end of two thousand late on twenty so ramadan is to may and could be fights april april so it starts april twenty third so that's perfect timing so he fights that ends in may may june july august september september october fight conor he was fight three times this year he think he's gonna wait that long or do you think he's gonna fight a guy by the name of hormuz adele who's a better match up more more winnable fight to fight more winnable fight than could be or tony big fight be a methyl title so you know when piquionne and even dating goes you know that that could be a year everybody's just fucking we're just going to bypass the tony ferguson and fight what's wrong with you guys the only person the only person who's not winning this whole equation tomorrow's man he's not giving mazda wow that'd been huge fight for him that's what they're saying next i if i had a gun to my head you're getting maserati mcgregor and then let's say conor gets by that during an connor and the winner of khabib ferguson and it's so weird for in your unit that that onto them twenty but it's a very strangest assume could be was gonna win that fight it's if that's insane 'cause i've everybody all the champions all the champions no one has a tougher matchup stylistically and just as pure talent wise you leak the win streak in the body of work in the resume nobody nobody has a tougher tougher matchup thing could be i only ferguson that thing is a fuck that tough pick man the topic vic you know i thought connor looked fantastic i thought is his mindset going into the to lock the gone again there's a lot of questions russians but he he answered all those i find it why i'm even coming this i don't know it's weird i even have to say happy reiko go cowboy took a fall they man you know stupid enough to beat assume that you want level of IQ you have to have to assume that you shitting me do you not know anything about the sport out of all the guys to assume would take a fall which doesn't happen the AFC i think there's one that asian kids when they were fighting korea drinkin- they caught him but out of all the people to accuse of donald cowboys aronie eight a one man ain't the one my favorite part is like come on dude those shoulder things hurt you thank god man fuck faulk people really do believe this flat this is these mouth breather this is not good this is not good i can't believe out to address that like oh wow how people really think that it's pretty hard it what it feels pretty hard jeb people like texting you asking if you thought it was rig no i don't have anybody that stupid in my life i i had a couple of people text me i'm like nyayo the knowing that dumb just DM's or some twitter cow wow cowboys not that guy not he ain't into one the shoulder checks which broke his nose you know the the knee from the get-go and then the head kick but you got rocked with that head cake and her dean gave yeah thrown every every chance to get back up and forty seconds as he could but you guys are just also assuming congregate you're dead is oh it's an older donald he beat him the fastest and the most clear-cut out of anyone donald's ever fought look at donald's resume and conor mcgregor was the fastest ever defeat that man that's in flawless performance think it touched i think you touch don't how tough can go man you oh you look at his last go look at us four ally quinta ain't no walk in the park tony ferguson nightmare just engaged nightmare conor mcgregor night and then he's also fought liane edwards dern tail robbie lawler maswadeh all it's it's you know it's fucking murderers there's row they'll set five fights against like top guys in one calendar year yup i don't i hope you know cowboy made enough money especially now where i gave family go do your thing that i don't know what's what's really who do you want a lot left form what do you do we're gonna do what do you do with donald he's also fought pretty much everyone thought everyone no one left the losses or bad losses the winds are great wins you don't wanna really see any rematches it's just like i know he said did i love doing this i'll be back in that but why dude hopefully got paid well enough or you don't have to do it anymore i hope so did you see disclose purses dong two eight hundred two hundred yes way more than that gets more what do you think millions who i make three to four million off that fight connor when he sat down there alani says you can make a million dollars doesn't believe that either did you i didn't yeah no so they said just go through the numbers right and then pay per view buys yeah so then even if i think luke thomas broken down to if you go through the best if you had the base best paper you numbers of all time time which is won't be even remotely close the best paper you numbers all time he's still nine close to eighty million the thing is here he made one hundred million the humane one hundred billion when he fought floyd he oh that's also when he fought you know he had a bunch of other stuff go into that it wasn't just one hundred million from fighting fighting floyd there's a number of other things that went into that to break the hundred million dollars i i don't know who believe even dana dana din defended did you get a lot of shit going on outside the octa on this can be big forum that he has his whiskey as the reebok deal so you can tell data's uh-huh you make an email and not that i know of you know but i mean that's kind of his persona he's making a tawny of money but eighty million that i mean i wrote down mckay who k- it's weird right now because connor hasn't fought so long and that the fight was really a build up as as the whole thing was weird kind of has a fight so long you you forget how big of a star he is like we think we have stars we think we have them when cars in you you think this guy's begging around this guy's star star this guy's a star and then a real motherfucking unicorn walks in the room like holy fuck you just see the the power of conor mcgregor when when he when he's fight and he's ready to go and we believe he's gonna win you see the power of a true star and why c. star talking about UFC he's the big by far not not even remotely close to the biggest star the AFC's ever had but you're talking about a global star athlete top ten most famous athletes on the planet lebron james tweeting tom brady show on the fuck up to the fight you know you see tony robbins light came into the octagon afterward i that's what i said to my brother expensive it must beat up tony robbins in your corner forget charges like three hundred dollars just to fuck in tax or some shit oh he doesn't show up anywhere free oh do talk about that money your town avion dollar year he's making eighty million i don't you know that's the coli shit they're doing something right man the only israeli no negative if you're a connor fan there's donate you cite the only negative i can possibly see is you never learn much when you start guide forty seconds we have no idea of his camp was the great camp if he's in shape if he's good at welterweight if his powers at welterweight we don't know oh none of those questions answered we knew he's the right from a mine he does look like he's back he wasn't doing all those shenanigans he was getting his rest he was eating right he wasn't and drinking we know all that he's in the right frame of mind but physically we don't know he just he starts them so fast so you never he that same camp ramp and that that same blueprint and protocol they differ that camp is going to be the exact same camp he brings in to the moslems fight or there could be tony fight so it's gonna be tough 'cause you can't you know now we have no idea we have no idea with his cardio get better where his timing up we have no idea that's the only downside side to this but you know him starch and sony like this is a kind of reignited hope in the car mcgregor lovers dick writers like myself where you go back and i can't sell that could be fight where men he is serious you know he didn't the last fight serious so now it's like gives you that all right i'm kinda back on board dow maybe can't beat them i think vegas has the best odds for congress next fight is a horrid i'm telling you can be whore him as it all man i'm telling you guys give me him as well it ain't get look at the timing could be husked through tony no matter what what happens in that fight i can't emphasize enough they're going to one hundred twenty day suspension that things can be a mother fucking more tony could be bringing fight three times before they retire i'm telling you that's our arturo gatti ward that thing is a fucking war nobody's fighting for quite some time after those two fuck doc and beat the shit out of each other and stoller st that things aren't gonna be pretty close quarters grappling take downs tony throwing elbows submission attempts cutting could be bob could be ground the fuck out of him taking him down you're getting five rounds of pure fuck and fury it's fantastic but neither one of them fuckers walking out of that account without a lip without some stitches broken bones on townie man so just assume that could be he's gonna win that thing everything's all hunky dory i'm telling you out for a while the winner that fight win lose draw their out for a while man that's not one of those match ups where it's going to be quick quick ain't nobody going away quick in that light you're getting communist versus moslem knicks swat it is man the rest of the card is just you know kind of disappointing kinda disappointing you just was in you know that raquel penton a holiday home fight jesus christ ben jesus christ that was rough to watch fuck dude fuck man she's frustrating yeah that was that was really rough around watch holly fan but she's she's jammed against the clinton the clinton the whole time sometimes when fights go like that i've been i thought our loss is born is sometimes when fights are like that i think in my head what other female female sport i'd rather watch in this right now and i go through like a number of things i think i i i i- landed on cheerleading just got up and watching chairs WNBA was out women's college basketball sake tennessee yukon i'd rather watch that women's tennis stike big like sereda yep bye go through all of them i had like what what what other women's sport with i'd rather watch softball fall out at so fucking lame workout were so dominant yeah you right yeah world cup yeah for sure actually i'll watch mocked up women's track if it's a summer olympics there's some hotties two men yep yep upi up to pass the time all fifteen eighteen minutes of it dog what were you seeming the coming advance already the cards shit and they give us that i was like talk about you boy ola nick is submitting mother fuckers all all the time maurice greene was he was gain legs up the triangles super game boy pettus loss that was a rough on a tough fight a ah fresno joe he's his grappling topnotch super topnotch the one fight you know we thought was going to be the finite was that yousef versa feeli- really i thought it was gonna be finally tonight it was impressive i it was impressive ac- uses ground gangs went seen that before but yes okay macy barbara we're just blew her fucking knee out that was fun though roxanne was awesome it was fun seeing roxanne do well yeah because she's so it's like a dork of a fighter yes yes we didn't i love the double knee braces yeah she's old school she's like subaru protein shirts for hot second drew dover looked fantastic overall the card though brian kello- occur tell her looked amazing he was m maybe panelist at one point math right right he doesn't he doesn't music and everything he's yeah i like him yeah big win stunt who they see finite no bonus awarded yeah it was just all performance bonuses they give connor you've a bunch wow all got it so you know what the big gate we'll never hear what kind of paper you remember the did we'll is funny he kinda let dana white kind of let this slide without really thinking about his wording goes we're doing numbers on this projected numbers on this one like we were doing before the streaming service for being plus which kind of indicates that the numbers numbers overall or just lower i heard i heard they're atrocious fired you got him like dude like does such rocha actress but they don't give a fuck cause that's not the game plan anymore it's just US PIN but i think even that being said i don't think this i don't i don't know oh i don't know i try and get a gauge the leading up to it you know if i'm a coffee shop i run a p with duke conard ask him questions kind of i don't know i did ride around million which would be amazed at that listen this is that's me being positive i won't be spicy like eight fifty eighty eight hundred wichita to the home run home run yeah man it's good to see him back the appeal just jump to conclusion saith could be just absolutely and say that's not happening she go through the numbers look around everybody everybody it's a wireless world everyone needs a great pair of wireless ear buds but before you go dropping hundreds of dollars on just a pair which you're probably gonna lose i do every trip you need to check out the wireless ear buds from recon yuri no recon air bud start about half the price of any other premium wireless 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belt offer available now to new subscribers only only then it ends february twenty-ninth cancelled before three day free trial ends are subscription renew at full price until cancelled so try showtime right now showtime dot com try thirty and promo code belts and watch the fight this saturday danny garcia i get you some some current events it sir first one sucks robert whitaker is out of his fight with jerry cannon here and the reason was undisclosed personal reasons right which sounds like i don't know i just be overt gonna say so it's about as family though over it and i'll i'll show you what what dan what set out apologies to all my friends sports unfortunate i won't be able to compete at UC forty eight there feel the things going on my life i need to give priority and sort out so i've had a change plans ends but i'll be back soon bigger and better than oversaw jeered track so you would expect to be upset right for its fits personal reasons right they banked on it so i'll show you dana this is him talking to submission radio we're gonna have rubber whitaker taking jared cananea whitaker is now out of that let's do this again what exactly happened there there so i use slash u. of c. dentists who are in the teasha to forty eight israel romero we're going to have trouble whitaker taking jericho cananea whitaker is now out of that cod what exactly happen they're put it this way that's that's personal for whittaker whitaker wants to talk about that he can again but i'll tell you this when you talk about somebody who's priorities are in the right place who is completely selfless and down to the core a good human being that's robert whitaker crime the fighting in this fight is one of the most unselfish things i've ever seen in my life fighting the fires good human being and i have a lot of wonder if you know what he's dealing with right now and i literally i can't put into words in articulate feel about must we're pretty serious day is he's he's the real deal man yeah i did not expect that answer dana i love robert whitaker i wonder what it is he posted this thing as well well but i'm sorry i don't want wars set the same on a lot is happening over the last twelve months and i need to take time to be with my family slow things down promise at at all do you think that spend time with family and doing for a hot second yeah and dan is it really school i'll be curious what it is i mean a seal have tells picture there was family it's also you know fighting you'll romero fighting style bender not knock on your cannon air but it's tough man sir please okay absolutely and then speaking stall bender so they are official now israel sonya annual romero lover forty-eight love love love love it what would you do is dan did did you like do you have some people have an issue you have an issue with your american title shot do you have a big issue with your mail attached coming off a loss fighting style bender the or josie aldo fighting pseudo attempt shot coming off a loss i'd say i have both controversial yeah i'd say i have more of an issue she with aldo than i do you'll ramiro given just his performances they've all been close they've all been drastically close could give it to the other yeah like his fight fight with kosta his fights with a whitaker clo- all insanely close with decision with aldo it was a close fight fight thirty one that's okay but the fights before that were close his hall away losses and just like his fights at featherweight vulcan could ask loss yeah the thing is with your romero it's like the you know in for style benner there's really no one else so it's like god's y'all's ios a monster he a lot of people think he'd be put put him in but for henry pseudo it's like dude there's marlin could do that or you know there's there's a bunch of other fights he can make it was weird and just because pseudo wants to fight auto coming off a loss and demanded they give it to them so you're like all right well yes yes listen i don't know probably either i don't give a flocked how about that i don't care who henry pseudo fights all right cool man i wonder if i dominate cruise cruise dot com is your son future diaries but all right i'll give you can't complain final all right gelman they're often fights the great yeah more respect a minor thing is what style benders doing have more respect for them what i've respect for both guys but what henry suharto's doing i think he sees weakness in josie aldo and you know out does over his prime so it's kind of a an auto is a bigger name so he's going after him for that reason was style better he's going after y'all romero for legacy and proves the best because you know that ain't an easy fight stylistically like nightmare it's probably worst fighting you take nightmare still think finishes i'm under too though what else get a dino chase cooper that young dude super young twenty or yeah he's twenty years old he's a featherweight i don't know who he is okay so he fights in a UFC and there's a joke that i think ben's tweeted right like you did good son or something do you remember the key he did the post fight interview about skills like you want to eat eminem's or something oh he's like he looks like a child this semi so he's talking to hear him also at all right i'll just just play for doing media strategies that i got one question for why should you that's my dad the other than aspirin shadow i'm sorry man to now aw he legitimately thought adler molly that's your dad moscow go fuck sorry bro that's hilarious it's so instinctive because like evokes i didn't mean to such a guy he could just such a good dude and like mazda all you want to get that connor fight the massive massive massive absolutely all right this came came out i think the airline interview that or it might not have been down but he's conor mcgregor said he has not been close to signing a fight or a boxing match with many patio and they're still goes now i'll tell you what man when i when i heard that when you look at what my pack has been doing as as of late two him fighting many pacos way skier than him floyd floyd ain't gonna knockout florida on the back do things not HBO but you're not gonna get beat up you're not really suffering you know a ton of brain trauma mary package gonna fuck you up man you're not you're using a knockout and bear show for boxing i don't like that fight for connor he gives ali dude he has no me i believe them fuck out of connor when he's up backout when you start fucking with those knockout boys inbox walks and had eight pretty man that ain't pretty at all do the only god i can't believe we're talking about connor fighting many patio the only thing here we go here we go the only thing is manny does go forward which does play to the strengths of conor mcgregor being the longer you know south ball fighter in his left-hand tanda land to have the potential to land a big shot on many backout joe almost almost sell this shit on this thing yeah it's crazy though man yeah he wants a boxing world title i don't know you know he's he's conor mcgregor he sets that's a sites on these insane insane goals but they get done don't they so i don't know but i'm telling you that baggio is a bad batch of for anybody demand patio the fucking you know pascal just beat keith thurman like handle them look good like handled it like it was oh fuck dude like handled thurman they're never lost there is a fucking monster trump poured through beat some info garcia's he's meet some fucking monsters maybe he'll handle that boy oh it's so funny it's so give connor may get your money dude you fucking money i'll tell you what i don't want for reals i don't want this you see on the boost sell a year from now for show what i don't want what though is connor verse floyd to i don't we've done that we know you want it that's coming up next do we don't want that floyd when he's IQ who y'all who wanna see me fight could be reconquered they do just how much attention do you need how much attention to you fuck in like kiss he posted that but not just connor he also put could be as well it just yeah we want to see that i'm sure we would all want to see it actually happen to watch it it makes no sense to me say you'll watch it and not you to see it or to your way different i don't i don't i don't want any part of it but if it does go down do you have about people like damp abdallah's bro or i can't wait for that shit like man god what's wrong with you people like go to the QB one down this should be crazy yo hey chop well it should be fucking crazy oh you're talking about a hypnotist immerse could be a straight up grappler a sombo uh-huh rushing grappler in a boxing match you know fucking stupid that is this guy how two fives and two on twenty told you will be historic year who's ready has TM t- this guy's name is greg underscore TM ts one of the bodyguard DA's oh yea working for him i told y'all historic year all right well you get your cat due to allow jill out who wants to see this matchup comments below man a lot of comments it'll ruin your day won't it what else she got okay okay a lot of people sent me this because of the the reebok the fight kit you like no one ever wears it so finally someone found someone that war in the slap contest attest shit to get the fuck out talk a little bit so that's who wears the reebok doc fight kits at haller synthetic that what's that guy's dad dad failed man his dad failed black ice failed he tattoos is black and then you just put like a black face on now is that a tattoo or is seagoing green face there that's got to be tied to yeah that's a tattoo is tough man yeah what what else get he's gonna fight get though yeah okay well this is already known that the on edwards it's gonna fight but it's official the headlining ESPN's orlando but here's a fight nobody's talking about no one wants to see it because many reasons liane edwards wiscon- greg's fun fuck and fight and leon's not there but as far stand up is to fight galaxy fun fight but i never going to see it i get it just saying throwing that out there liane edwards has a tough fucking fight you know to you by woodley in his hood to saying stylistically though edwards was connor be really fun that's a good point you there's a lot of fun fights you could see but you're never gonna see him because the names nevada name valued me a superstar i think i'll you know well you know gauges a big star in our world but he's not even big enough started draw conor mcgregor numbers he's not an international star no listen won't out straight up stars stars like superstars two guys can be globally huge connor globally huge these other guys even hoary he's not he's as far as like massive massive peel he now if he fights connor starches them or you know fights some of these other guys starches them he'll get there but when you straight up like international superstars can't tom cruise style can't walk down the street there's only two in the skip it could be and it's kinda did you did you get did you get a minute what we talked about last last week i i'm assuming i got the thomas stuff i meet people especially from ireland's BI how can you not talk about the allegations stuff like that dude that's a i'm not a journalist i've i don't give a flying fuck i'm not a journalist also there hasn't been anything new so am i keep going keep harping on the same shit we don't know anything and then people in dublin like well here in dublin we know it's him and they call the irish superstar but because of legalities and because of our law we can't exactly say tim like a right what do you do with that information what are we supposed to do the into the bus you guys don't know you know as much as i do i can google and i see whatever the sun is that put it out there whatever you read on there is what i that's what i know but there's nothing new i can't keep dragging the guy over the fucking fire fire over there's no new allegations nothing's progress we have we have no idea so i can't do anything about i've i've been do i'm not again i'm not a journalist now i don't stuck in no one lives not where like i can't believe more MMA media dingo after four it's like for what though i'm gonna say he didn't do it i'm not saying we we have no fuck include dish it if there was new information then we can talk about it but we don't know anything there's nothing there it's like with greg hardy to how how can ease up on used to shell out him he came in when he was doing that i'm not on board but apparently he he's learned from his you know from his wrongs he's trying to do better he's training his ass off against teammate i can only harp on that for so long i mean do we have no new information coming gregor nothing it's like people want you to be like what's her name nancy grace where you just like go off like based on assumptions like speculation you just can't no so we do what we do when she gets you got this right here kevin lee or is charles oliveira margin into one yeah i thought kevin lou might get a bigger fight even though charles l. smitten fucking everyone and their mom i'll take though interesting right a two i like that better than him fucking fighting at rushing kid they you wonder what's the guy's name is jeff yeah that's a rough housing doing that i liked it they're like nam and dan okay i think we're talking to kevin leave out food truck yes sweets yep that'd be good you know i think it'd be awesome for the future i don't know if you guys degree but gordon reid no artem above interesting seriously are you are are you dynasty KB verse fucking floyd as well no not that article out of all the guys that was i wouldn't hate it like i'd be interested to hear what he had to say but i don't think it'd be like a ratings getter there's like a lot of other people in front i'd rather quite the q. yeah i hear that was surprising for me i know i know all right what interesting about that he's always find on interviews but what's he doing barnacle still yeah yeah it'd be interesting i think an interesting i think gordon ryan would be an interesting one that would be it'd be competing nicer retired he said its recent that's right that's right beginning to get his that'd be interesting to get someone from like the world of competitive competitive jitsu the michael phelps jitsu he's like the guy and was like i'm good i'm out so fucking freak compete the main one he he wants to write he's getting into some poor souls you to sign up for that get the fucking ankle ripped off what's this and this is from a random requests for food trucks think about a little bit of on looking paulie and orem same time bro i think that would be good numbers all right this is from the fight that just happened the car that just happened this is drew over and i only watched the finish in the heat of a firefight he stays disciplined holy holy seven punches too late so that's a you know wrestling wrestling's a tough gig apparently to can we talk about listen listen i pull some shit on my ass sometimes became we talk about how some of the ESPN analyst when they jump in there like i fuck it i don't work i love i take i love stephen smell kellerman i love those guys when those two had to talk about connor conor first cowboy us like damn no no one went over anything with them like it was just like it's like how might you know my dad had doesn't know anything thing about it in the interests like those those guys are gonna fucking punch each other how that is just like so like vanilla and then cheils in the middle and and god bless because cheils in the middle and you can tell them just like fuck it and then and then they had stephen a smith on and rogin yeah at the end and stephen smith is going battling cowboy doesn't show up and he has no chain i'm like dude you just learn about about this guy thirty minutes ago you shitting you're shitting on dolls ronan he's our guy everybody loves donald and you just shitting on the sky i just wish roldan were like do what the fuck are you talking about look this is what he said this is why i said rafter dot again i love stephen smith i think he's fantastic however sometimes we do things are out of your realm out of your lane it gets a little dicey however if you are going to do it you don't go that hard in the paint on something you have no clue who about this is what he says i'm quite disgusted let me be very very clear i'm honored to be here with you guys i'm a spectator watching the sport expect to see more more than forty seconds i predicted mcgregor is going to win this fight inside of two rounds i thought he would take him out here's the deal fifteen seconds in cowboy sony was done he got here with those shoulders in the clinch and he was done look like he gave up it was just an atrocious performance on his part i just wish somewhere be like what the fuck trolls did he got his nose baroque need and then head kicked he fucked up man dentistry and a fighter that's calm cool collected ready for pressure as outweigh by some of that clearly and over their head when you look at cowboys sarony is like like seventy five whatever those not the guy he was not prepared for the fight tonight we knew connor was going to be prepared we knew connell is going to be ready we wondered whether or not he would take take him out early off see as a fight goes on thrown as the bigger stronger guy supposedly for him to be heard and fifty seconds get away from the clinton still let connor right back at them come on your smart on that expected except for tonight it's crazy yeah it's crazy it's crazy it's crazy it's so crazy but makes headlines that's what he does right skip bayless student that makes headlines i just i don't know i feel like if i there you know rogue inner those guys like the fight fab i did not show you'll strongly has like sixty five he's fought everybody he's a slow starter order for sure sub not show up do you know how good fucking i'll focus connors you're diminishing what conard entered it saying he oh he didn't show up he was ready for the lights are too bright nowy main events surrounding he's been in big fights rone's been you know he's the most you know the most performance awards of all you know he's the most head kick knockouts come on dude i yeah it was just yet we got jail this weekend food truck this week we had shown this week i'm gonna talk to him about that now here's the thing i'm gonna tell us before to come on the show this is the one of the best qualities of jeffersonian he will not talk bad about anybody even when meet him were training camp i'd like how about not that we have every right to show on this person i might do how about that fucking abeille that should make you never know what he's gone through brennan maybe it was a rough morning he's trying his best to make nigeria are you mad just come on bro around the water cooler stuck our shit he's not that guy it's one of the best qualities about chelsea does not talk trash behind people's back does unbowed math it's it's a it's a quality so rare man so he's not going to do it but i'm going to get it out something i'll get it out what else you got this is your boy mike carpenter you saying that canot alvarez is supposed to be fighting villages saunders go back and listen i feel on rogin is on this podcasts i guess i said the guy who i think's in give canal hours the most troubling billy joe saunders out of all the guys now granted he fought on the was it the fucking the paul card don't don't count that there was i don't know what happened i'm telling you go back and look at his fights man oh here's salaam you and she watches fighting it's community like oh shit that billy joe saunders shows up on town and canal our is my pound for pound best box on on earth i'm telling you billy joe saunders has some has some problems for that man stylistically he's a monster i love that fight oh shit it's one hundred sixty pounds so a victory for canal would be a full fledge four division champion he's to me he's the best you look at difficulty that the guy said he's beating in two different weight classes the bigger names you'll guys ain't doing shit man they talk shit teach other online then they fight nobody's you can't even encounter man the level of deftly doesn't count is like these other MMA leagues one championship belt do not the UFC is the SEC we see they're fighting the best of the best night in night out you know how hard is become the SEC champion your heart is to stay healthy and get to the national championship it's fucking coming impossible because you're fighting and you're competing against the best of the best that's why the AFC is different than these other ones with box in it's like i don't those guys who were picking the perfect match ups and just to get by and then talk shit online to the earl spencer and terence crawford and what is this fight fight each other canals are doing that he did you cannot talk to anybody nope lineup lining up lineup yup i'll go there i'll go there i'll go here that's why it's the best interest billy joe saunders that would be an fucking sane men you know me i was like to make some money johnny so betting on the dog you bet billy jobe decent underdog bound i'm townie man he comes ready you fight you got a big fight on your hands assuming they do in the state's dow stadium some shit like that you watch the football games this weekend yeah you're the blow out neither one were great but that was good but jesus niners a fun super bowl aw dude i was thinking the whole time i was like fuck it's tines packers i probably wouldn't watch it it'd be a terrible super bowl i love rebel he's my favorite coach but the bummer a super bowl before you niners cheese that's a fucking game that's the game i'm a patrick mahomes fan i think he's like he's are lebron james you're seeing just pure greatness so i always root for that same reason i root for connor like always like to i think things are bigger than what it is so i root from a homes and if they see west the broncos division but i have several friends on the niners and their defense is better i think better coaching great super bowl i don't know man i know i don't know who i won't do what else he had two other boxing one junior apparently was offered a seven figure pay for fighting dillion white assume he's gonna take it from eddie hearn he said they are still thinking no one else knocking on that door thinks he's going to be doing white chance you gotta get down mine good dealing with he gets the shaft easy fuck and monster monster what else yet do i just thought this was interesting because john jones he says he's like ninety percent plant based now and it seems like a recent thing and i'm wondering since he's has a new fight coming up you change your diet to that that dramatically larry here guy going vegan is you bet against some ninety percent though he's so goddamn gooden and he's the only guy i wouldn't bet on going vegan but i don't know i put a little money on a little more now a little more comfortable with picking him to win the fight scared on pure vegan no ninety percent whatever that means based plant it does look nice symbolic vegans out there well there you go the scale put eat like a gorilla yeah we're not guerrillas though you know man what else your boy uh-huh magli mill neil magny s- fighting that chinese lesion yeah dude legionella brings it li jing alang has won the best chance like you literally looks like he just made out of fuck his alright yeah as jaw too tough for neil yeah jalen jane lunacy let's see i i didn't really there's not a big deal but paul daly city it was paul daley said he was fired from bell talk to me as an analyst because he has too much of his own opinions coming out give me an example paul fired before the two he was a bad mouth thing i think MVP on like an MVP broadcast when MVP was fighting and then i guess he won but he was bad mouthing basically like the level of competition asian i mean you got to be a little bit on biased and be a professional but at the same time to he's also you know him verse MVP VP of you know some history and of course now depends what he said on their your fire daily wrote on it's been taught yesterday from the my guess my pins a little off script did i thought it was just finding my group yeah you want that though don't you i mean not to go i don't know what else you have him on the phone panel of course you especially MVP VP fight that's what he's gonna do man they hate each other what else yet let's do all your pseudo and although on ballistics that yeah according to combat in brazil well good for su- hooley wanted that yeah and this one is just a funny one so you know where he module dressed up like connor dressed for his boxing debut oh interesting right i don't even make that correlation and then jessica i so she this is a we wish says there and then i'll show you what she says or worship look like oh no it's not a video so she goes i mean if game board needs someone to take to help him take his robe off tonight i live in vegas i can help okay and then just that my berl damn girl try to holler out shit why not thirsty thirsty thirsty get for her shooter shoot killers kill sir sir and that looks like about it for that it yeah for current events because there's some fight this weekend you gotta get one incurs blazers does uh-huh santos out assume bleh what were the odds assume blades by two to one favorite i just don't see z. santos beating blades so he's a favorite but yep my forty five there you go tough fight for santa's blades the fucking monster my my favorite fight on that entire card blades dose angela fun fight blades right here in panama out in the second TKO look for TKO from blades if you don't get caught early in the first dose anjos michael chesa is a great fucking fight at welterweight phenomenal fight i hope that goes to the ground so see those to grapple other than that it's all right arnold alan and watch nick lens that's a really good fight so oh that's that card beltre's also happening adulterants card overall from my top the bottom pry better than you have seen keep yet julia budd chris cyborg out embarks back during caldwell that's going sergio paz's debut raymond ryland daniels is fantastic even night hala corales one archer linda in pico kerry again not easy pfeiffer i for peak illicit kerry beat that gassing bolanos guy the hotshot kickboxer and then he beat lense yoni wanted shales proteges like he beats beats their prospects aren't they put on my boy pico on the main card man that's tough but i'm surprised that even fights it's on there the other ones make sense but i mean i taped peco's besides cyber he's the biggest name on this card mr pat is pretty big either way quality card is called four except for the grand prix with me interesting yeah it's a really good fight and one 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#225  UFC 236 recap, Rich Franklin joins UFC Hall of Fame, UFC St. Petersburg preview, more

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#225 UFC 236 recap, Rich Franklin joins UFC Hall of Fame, UFC St. Petersburg preview, more

"You're listening to the media podcast network. It is Thursday, April eighteenth two thousand nineteen and this is the may beat welcome everyone. My name is Luke Thomas on the host of this program. I'm from enemy fighting dot com. As well as Sirius XM joined by three reprobates variety of different locations to my left, whereas you from all the way from with galaxy the Galata tower of STAN bowl Turkey. You know him the Turkish sensation himself. Denny's gore up then there's Brian Campbell from CBS sports. Joining us again at the end of the Ice, Man. The man the hat Chuck minute all from the rigor as well as fighting dot com. Boy is so we doing so you've hired up fired up pumped up for the big boxing event this weekend. Brian not that Crawford. Con MSG the mecca very quickly. How many of us is going to sell not that ESPN would tell you. But I would say probably it's all it is favorite view. It's the first top rank on ESPN, pay per view, three hundred fifty would be nice for them. But that's that's. That's a little ambitious ought to be honest with you. All right. We'll see how good it's at MSG at Emma's juice. We've got other things to talk about beyond just nubs boxing. We've actually got good ever made it talk about and bad inmates. Let's get to it. You'll see thirty six in the books. You went on my God. I'm still go. Yeah. I did not give you were their case. I know we've talked a lot here. It is it's Thursday. So what I don't want to do is. I don't want to go over the same things that every show is kind of talked about this point. And they've kind talked about some of these needs to, but we're going to look ahead. But before we look ahead right away. Let me skip the Brian just because he was there if I made any I I have noticed in the aftermath of UFC two thirty six I've seen a lot of talk about Israel seen a lot of talk about max Kelvin a little bit dust one. And I'm not seeing as much for him. Why am I not seeing very much talk about Dustin party because that's really the crowning achievement of his career that is a remarkable feat. He pulled off generally, I am not seeing nearly enough accolades for him. Why I think for a marketing standpoint, if we're honest he wasn't supposed to win. I think if you're looking at what you're mapping out the territory, they may be expected in hope max to win even though it was more of a fifty fifty five on paper. But ultimately, I think Dan's your question the reason is because that's dustings rise. It's been all about putting his head down. Workmanlike one step at a time. There was never a point in the past year to have why would have said eight would be sick could be. Yes. But would be the last man standing potentially one step away from the top of the mountain against some be when they make that fight in this deep celebrity dangerous, violent division. So it's sort of in concert with. That not a big marketing brand dust Emporia, but a very solid fighter who just has matured step by step, and he falls around the way. And it hasn't been an easy ride. It hasn't really been under the radar right either. It's been one violent knockout win it after another in a row and he won that weekend. Well, you can call me the vet one that we, you know, one that we can whatever they injected in my veins standing cage side because you don't want to go back and rehash everything I want to rehash won a damn feeling. I went up dancing on the ceiling. I'm there's times, you know, in this business where hashtag blessed, and I'm not talking about Holloway to be that close to sit in the front row that night in Atlanta, those last two fights it was very similar that feeling at the garden for seventeen with those three title fights in a row. I just stood up just dripping sweat dripping just dripping, and that's great. That's I mean, can we bottle that Danny? We still runs on weirdness. Is there any other reason why does support is not maybe getting as much as you deserve? I think so for one is soon as Israel. One. He got right on on the meeting. He was in every show just talking about everything I believe in the only interview. And like the first interview that he did it was with you throws that yesterday on Tuesdays Tuesday. I was in Tuesday while Israel sign on Monday. He was already on all the shows doing all the interviews on top of that. When you got somebody named John Jones talking about you that does stir up your name a little bit more. So you know, he's got that on his tweet about the fight though. Right. But it was it was like it was very friendly. And we know that in today's age doesn't really sauce much. I mean, he gave his his thoughts on the fight. He's like I thought it was a dry, and I look forward to seeing you in September that whereas John Jones had a different standpoint. Right. And that definitely stirs something up, and then at assign you also had time to respond as well. So that obviously was in the headlines. And also, you know, I think the fact that dust importers been around for so long. He's already in a stablishment aim whereas wrote a sign ya. He's just coming into his right? We talk about his fourteen month, you know, trajectory leading up to this moment. Like, he's somebody that we didn't know. All that will in the last year and all of a sudden, he's a huge face. So people want to know about them, whereas dust employer. We know story, you know, historian has already been told, but nonetheless, it's still a pretty significant achievement. So I think all those things contribute to. I mean, just to be perfectly candid my inventing. This. We've seen this type of thing before guy comes off of another really big performance for whatever re and especially in a situation like this. You win the symbolic belt that he knows placeholder belt to go fight. The main guy we see those events in the history of the moment. I think they seem really big. But sometimes the die down period, and how fast that happens is why it becomes very strange. That's why we talk about it. And I'm not sure with poor ya. It's all there was a max max Holloway for a long time was just kind of a guy that was around who's a tough guy. We didn't really pay attention those fights. There was some point when we understood his personality, then it became sort of a cult figure in our sport. And once that happened. I felt like then there was a rooting interest attached to him then it mattered to people to see how he performed Mussa. So when he beats a guys like, we're taking it became a big a bigger deal. I'm not sure we've ever gotten to that point like a transcendent point with his personnel answers of dust Emporia where there's a rooting interest behind him. In fact, I felt like in the after in the history of the moment, it's a bit in the aftermath. There's probably a little bit of a sag. Disappointment. Like, oh, man. But max could've you could have been max verses? And I think that because we were contemplated that fight before with no Mogomedov, maybe something like that. But he just hasn't. He hasn't reached that. I don't know if it's like, a charisma thing. I don't know what it is. But like he just hasn't reached that level yet where he compels you beyond the fight itself. I would also like to add that one the poor you hallway fight was fantastic. But the Asana loving gasoline just by the nature of both fights. I mean that was just. Yeah, seen so that itself has people talking and then on top of that like out. I don't know if there's, you know, a little bit of fatigue from the fans, but like we know the end go at one eighty five I mean, the Sonya Whitaker. The title unification about is the only fight to make it that wake last whereas lightweight duty. You don't know there's kind of McGregor. There's Tony Ferguson. So maybe fans don't want to maybe invest as much because they don't know what's going to the danger. I guess a little bit just on the last point. But of having to title-fights like that this is a best case scenario in the sense of like, you get both fights or really epoch. So they're they're great. But one of them will get drowned out nonsense sense. Because imagine if that had just been your main event, I was going to say it's a fight of the year continues. We would. We would be talking about a whole different light. So I it is unfortunate that he just happens to be overshadowed by itself. Above. It's everything we said here that comes together. But it's also you could argue max performance in defeat the heart. He showed his face falling off or fear for that. In some ways. Even overshadowed the performance of interesting. All right. So let's talk about next steps. Let me ask you in this way. Dan away goes out there and says, oh for sure the next fight for support is going to be number. Good made of it. In fact, that builds around. Yeah. Put a ring on his finger as so to speak. But but we all know how this game works now. Again, I think the likelihood of past as prologue is that doesn't going to get let me ask you in this way. Danny what is the likelihood abs- boarding injuries? Let's say injuries not a factor. What is the likelihood that someone's skips? The line ahead. Forty eight next will would it take for that to happen? I mean, I think there's always the possibility there, but as I mentioned in the remote. I mean, if I had to put on I would still say, it's you know, maybe minus. I mean, plus two hundred somebody that knew more that let's not that. I mean, you never know what can happen. I mean, there's also keep in mind with injury. I say without injury. You know, the odds are injury. God knows. Yeah. But man, there's there's Conor McGregor out there. You know, he wants that rematch. We've seen all his tweets the last few weeks. He wants that rematch. And we know that. More often than not he gets what he wants. So Dana are going to be in your hometown of Miami Fort Lauderdale is that what it takes. Maybe maybe we'll see I mean con- McGregor. We know that how convincing he can be. And we know his brand the only thing that kind of puts me a little bit of ease that the US you will do the right thing give dust employer. His title shot. Is that you know, they now have that. Yes. Bien deal. So that incentive of, you know, getting those million pay per view buys. It's not really they're all that much because now they're getting up from payment by. Yes. Bien, which should you know, allow them to play a little bit more on the sporting side of the biggest cynic against you have seen a lot of ways in the decisions they make they can embark an injury or or Dustin completely pricing himself out some kind of stupid demand. If they don't give him the title shot. It's how would you ever even remotely justify that decision when they put out dinner entitled that did not need to be there by any means? And we went up and down the road and argued why it shouldn't be there and Dana argued white should. Well, you put it out there. It did raise the stakes so too small degree Dan wins that argument, even though he's still. On that idea. Yeah. You sold that idea. On your you're selling the last paper, you're selling the idea that this guys get an interim shop, meaning he's going to go against you're basically selling to fights. You know what I mean? Like, you put an interim Buttle valuing the real title. But then. Title. Where are we you can't do that? So what is the likelihood small Bobby one hundred percent? He's thinking one hundred percent. Wow. That is not a claim. I'm comfortable. Percent one it again. It seems unlikely I think we'd all be there. Yeah. What would it take for it to happen? Barring injury. I mean, if it comes down to karma Bergerson. Hey, I want this fight. I really believe that they're going to consider that. That's the bottom line. I I don't want it as a person who watches the fight. I don't see it as a competitive rematch. I don't see any compelling reason for him to get that rematch other than a basically kind of attracting of the wider audience and saying like, hey, they're going to do it. Again. We recognize these names, I don't really understand why they would wider whiter whiter. How could you just check in? All right. Although I suppose, by the way, there's another wrinkle to this. We haven't considered which is Connor could come back and say, well, wait a second. I'd like a rematch against plora true. And so then party was like in a specific where he could defend the belt get a huge paycheck alive altering one. And and then by the way, let's they Connor wins. That I don't know how likely is bliss. You say it is. And now you're back to a different position on the day and age now, it's like you have to get. You have to fight you have to consider all this. But then all these managers are going on really just a gay cheese guys saying like, well, you know, the Trump that together that fight with the Cowboys Sironi is you never know. Really what's going on? You don't know if you'll see is actually trying to put together these fights. Or if it's angling for these fights. It's like the game has changed so much in the last year or so in terms of how people position themselves after a fight takes place. No, so unlikely but link. Yeah hundred percent loses like that that is a perilous on limbs. Are as let's talk about the next. Let's talk about the next step for max people have said we talked about on them on Monday on the hour about whether or not you should go back to one forty five very limited to get your views on this. I don't think any of us think his days at one fifty five or done, but when do they resume Brian instantly Dana after the find the post press conference that you can take that for what it's worth. But it's funny for as much as he was pushing max out the door forty five and fifty five this fight. Now, he was like an I was wrong Max's, much more a featherweight. You saw the difference in punching power, which by the way in round one was a major I opening moment there. He goes back to featherweight. And I think I got down. I think it makes a lot of sense you put them in there against radiator a guy who's been right around getting that. Supposed to happen. He's coming off a win which helps you in the reason why is this. You're not gonna do that. Although trilogy right now, you're not gonna do the Ortega rematch right now, you book on although in Ortega against each other and the winner gets a title shot, and then you book Volkov's IMO Ikano against each other. Thirty-seven against we'll Noski. Yes. I thought that was on the ropes that is it is it is on the ropes, but it hasn't been canceled yet. All right. Well, barring that I think that's the right move. Although wants to fight for a title in his last bow. There's a lot of reason to believe you have see wouldn't give him that. But if he beats Ortega and it's coming off a three fight win streak. I'm not saying I want a trilogy fight with max. But that would make a lot of sense. But to answer your question. Freaky injury next. And it's it's not edgar's thirty seven stay busy get well. But it's as close as it could be style wise, we read like that for maximum. I mean, his thirteen fight winning streak is intact at one forty five. So basically, you if he goes back down there they still have the exact same commodity they had before. But that's where it didn't hurt him to go up and try his hand at one fifty five. So although he took a beat. He did you did. And obviously there was some health concerns about how much of the damage. He's accrued over time over the last year or two so it's not it's not as comfortable, but I think going back to one forty five I think the weight cut is what bothers like your conscious when you think about your like, I don't know if I wanna. See him do that. But he's he's he's never as far as I know. He's never missed weight. Right. Who Holloway Holloway? Yeah. No. I don't think he's ever missed way. So he's he's been very well about the six days to fight. All yes. That's true. He didn't even get to wait. Oval when I he can go back there, and at least in the short term, and they have everything still intact. So it's got to be the natural move enough. Let's transition very quickly to the next step for the co main event one talking about gasoline in a second. But that again that main event I went back and watched it a number of times now for that as a special fight that fifth round gut. Check moment, it really reminded me a bit of the I know they hate each other. But the John Jones Gustafsen one John Jones came out in the fifth round. And let them know what time it was. Wow. Do that's what champions are made of? And he didn't get that title by accident. I think you will get a lot of people. Here's what I kind of wanted to focus on very quickly. If we can this is a fight that is tailor made for the region. And I think there's something special. We need to say about it. You know, for example, I like to cheer for Real Madrid. And logical donor stand. Why the basic idea is that look I had to pick a team in Europe. And I fell in love with the city. And if you fall in love with the city there is of course, the other team, and they're a very good team. But the reality is the kings of that city are the one in all white, and I just kind of like was enamored by it to be quite candid with you. But the reality is it's a Madrid team. It's a Spanish team, but it's a global entity man and everyone gets to enjoy on different levels. What I love about outta Sonya versus Whitaker is. That's an oceanic fight that his Australia versus New Zealand, or however you want to pitch it as their native sons against one another and get it's the world's as well. And there's something kind of interesting about that. We don't get a lot of polish versus polish or French versus French that also dominates our attention. Generally. I don't know exactly what that says about the sport. Chuck. But I think it is. I agree with you one hundred percent. There's very few fights. You can put together of people who are not worth American Brazilian, or you know, like there there's some kind of American in the mix you can insert hemisphere. Exactly. So to had those two guys and for it to mean, every is as vitally what it means to Australia New Zealand to be as vital to us. Here is a big deal. And it's you know, you we've watched Australia kind of struggled to get recognition. Essentially there's been multiple guys who've come and win. And now you've got a couple of guys who are right there. You know who have that kind of transcendent power. And I feel like that's that's cool. I mean, it's been fun to watch them George Stephanopoulos, guys like that they've been they've been hammering away over citizen. I know exactly these guys have been in. There's so many schools and everything it's just it's cool to see. A market that was dedicated to mixed martial arts, actually, succeed run and get to this point insurance a matter. Yes to mature and becomes of this point where we all care about it too. So I agree with you a hundred percent. I hope they do it down there. And what a fight man after watching out of Sonya performance. And I didn't that was the revelation to me was just how dig he's willing. How how big he can deep a deep into himself to come up with that kind of performance after taking the mini as it looks. It is remember the John Jones revelation was we never seen him get hit. Really, right. We didn't know if he could take a point. So the Gus this fight was the revelation in that sense. They his chin was better. And then and then we saw that fifth round. And we thought only there's way more to them than we realize. I felt like that's what happened without a Sonya. And then you put that against Bobby knuckles men in. It's it becomes a whole. That's critical. One of the better fight, you can the entire sport. And you and you follow the good thing internationally oceanic Super Bowl and all that. But let's not forget that. I'm son you're such a unique international star and a potential to be a global sensation. Because he also has the African connection coming from Nigeria. Joining up with Kamara whose mom being the first African champions abusive to set in the aftermath, and they wanted they both want to bring the championships back there and celebrate so you have a guy that market stall different areas. He's reminds fans of sort of John Jones Anderson Silva hybrid mix. He's got the flashy skills that you want. He's got the flashy mouth that you would want and then on top of that he's gone Lord on top of that. And look I love the flashy guy. Like, Luke Rocco on the rise. Look Rocco gets not doubt that Calvin Gaston Saturday night because Gasol and gave world class eight plus plus performance, and I make that comparison because we've seen guys like this before they look great. But this is a heartbreaking sport. It's a brutal sport. And you can look great and go really deep into the deep bend and still get suffocated in the fact that was the last man standing in that fight just like he's everything they need. And that's those. I mean, he's not gonna come out and lose to Robert Whitaker, by the way who spent testing all this. He showed you everything on the web got some lose hell bent on not losing that fight. That was an eye opener. I came out of that five being like, I have misunderstood Kelvin guys. One hundred percent. Yeah. And for oddest on you, actually, withstand it and win, and it was very it communicated itself. Very well. You can see the gas was in that. He was he was going to go on. He was going to go out like that. And you can see that out of you had to actually raise above that in two to beat them. Just crazy. That didn't think that wasn't the top five or six or seven fight of all time. Remember, the fifth round those two submission attempts guest. Miraculously Merced out of those were moments that take a great fight in just elevated to like other. Something that's up being mentioned in of the champion rubber Whitaker has been gut. Check as well. Let's not forget about that. Yo Romero fight fighting. You'll remember. Percents. That fight is not only a great fight on paper, skills wise, but heartwise man, we could be we could see one of the greatest title-fights ever. Because rubber Whitaker is also that guy part of the reason he also embraces the darkness or does the reason why Whitaker's out on the reasons a little bit different now. But there have been moments where he has been to sit out of the sport because the wars with Ramiro were so hard on him. He came out of there so battered that he needed time to to be off. No, it's interesting as Whitaker and honest near not too far apart in age, you're talking about crosses a different sort of geographic boundaries. He crossed his of racial ones as well. But more than that generational ones is up there talking about back Anga, magnum, whatever it is. Bingo. I think I wouldn't say this deja is faced by thanks for door. But the point being the point being is it speaks to a certain generation as well. Now Whitaker is the same age. But I think he guard says personality more Israel and just it's not really a contrast in geography and everybody else. It's a contrast in personality. It's the closed door versus the open door. It's it's a special five-man major excessive Bill. Right now, he is he you know, whoever wants talked to him. He's he's willing to is calm Gregor was very similar back in the early days. Like, it's just seemed like any publicity is good. Boy, he's to talk to whoever is going to you know, if there was a camera on him. He was going to say something, you know, what I mean, he was he was did you hear Dana to the fight thing out of sonya's on McGregor liked Trajan. His throw that around that often for as much as he goes out. Brian are Brian was saying Danny about this part. We'll be heaping all this praise and all these guys, and I can't wait for that fight. Whenever that's going to be what about Kevin gasoline. What does he go from here? I mean, definitely take a break. I mean, those fights hard fights that can take years out of you. Right. Plus two training camps. Right. Like, right. Back to back in in going into it. He he made it clear like, I'm kind of tired. You know, this is this has been a little rough. It's been a rough road. Duffy take some time off. And look, we know the sport changes a lot see how the division looks around November. You know, maybe it's completely different. But I think he's up there in the top five. I mean, you give them a fighter too depending on who he beats in how he looks. He's right back up there and giving the exciting fight that he put on against assign yet Braun excited to see him against me. Shelby right here. Give them Chris wideman the guy he just lost to the only loss during that run sort of an agent name guy, maybe can be coming off the loss. That's that's great match. I think if if the timeline aligns if Jared Cananea gets passed Anderson Silva that could be good fight as well. There's something interesting. One more second than just celebrate. What would have caught assigning can be? I just had her and told you oughta Sonya proved that he's the next big little start. And he's the real he went into the deep end. And he was the guy that came out, and I wouldn't favor them gun to my head against Whitaker. That shows you how great that fight. Yeah. It's even with all whatever's time off to like, so I think the betting odds are out if you've got to sign up for the first time ever is an underdog. Slide slide, but I would say you guys know how much I love on a sign his game. I think it's next level on the other hand. I think it's appropriate that would occur as the is the betting favourite. So really what what a weekend you have see to thirty six other people like just Emporia getting drowned out four Khalil Roundtree. Of his career. 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How does the same thing? Yeah. So I didn't at home. So was my here's how I got. It did the follow the instructions exactly got him a computer on the browser. I ordered it. I had to sign inside out a bunch of times, which was very annoying, nevertheless ESPN once it populated on my screen. It was perfect. Now, we said this before the SPN, plus interface is garbage. I cannot overstate that you pause it. And you wait thirty minutes. It just jumps thirty minutes. It doesn't fill the action at all. You can't review. It. You can't go forward backward. Fifteen seconds. You can't put it like it's one thing to not be as good as like YouTube TV, which is backed by the technology of Google. You're not even as good as fight pass. Like your fire. My bus pretty okay? I'm not saying five. This is bad. I'm saying it's not a huge scale operation relatives. What ESPN has Marie sore standpoint their their interface is so terrible. However, once it populated it was crisp minded in buffer. Do we have any problems along the way? Mine was fine. I had multiple times where it did buffer. All of a sudden something's going on. You're waiting like five seconds, you want WI fi? I was more. It was probably more to do with that. But it is something. Now, you have to consider what did you hear from fans and other observers about their pay per view experience. I think the biggest concern that fans had is that there's a lot of people in in. The midwest are certain rural areas that don't have the greatest internet connection. Now. That's the only way to get you know, right favor. Be it's either. They have to go to a bar or something and not everybody wants to do that. And be up to what to two AM or want their dogs. Oh my gosh. So I mean, that's a tough experience. I mean, we live in you know, I mean, I live in New York City. So it's very easy to get, you know, very good internet. But that's not. That's not the case for everyone. I thought about that. You know, my thought on that is I think ESPN probably decided number one eventually Broadbent will be more accessible and number two. Okay. We can't I don't I don't. I don't want to speak for them. But here's my hunch. My hunch is that they were like all right? We can't certain a certain remote areas. A well. They'll get it when they get it. How much? How much does that really cut into their bottom line is he loves New York City that would be devastating. I if you lost Huntsville, Alabama is going to be cut Phil I was gonna say in the nineties ninety percent of your business. Respects, a Huntsville, Alabama. I don't think it's cutting into your business. Right. I think they're just like. I think were just like, okay. All right, fine. What are the ratings came out for the prelims not money about nine hundred thousand really? Yeah. The previous ones right one point four part of it is I think a lot of people still don't know of Sonya and gas lemon point they know, they know max is, but they didn't know poor areas. Prelims to be honest. There wasn't even read much into that about what it means for pay per view or the UFC generally. I think so because I mean the. The prelims weren't stocked. And if you look at the main card, besides the two main fights, the other fights weren't as big as for example, like, you know, the last paper view, we had Robbie Lawler and Benasque Renaldo non-title just in the main car to children, you know, that's a huge fight. So we don't we won't probably won't know the numbers. Maybe I don't know if they'll come out. But my guess is you know, they probably reflect what the prelims that the breast some degree, Leslie when this we've all seen the Jones not assigned stuff. You talked about it on my show, Monday others as well. Now Anderson Silva has thrown his hat into the mix about this is this just petty rivalry like why is everyone kind of picking out aside? I realized that he was asked by TMZ. And he said, well, it'd be one go hunting another one. Okay. But the strong reaction to it. That's the part. That's like finer say things about each other all the time to focus on that. And then for now gimme crews talking to Anderson Silva or what yesterday. Or as an interesting being like, well, he was disrespectful is that just Silva and John being friends and then getting on the show because I haven't looked TMC enery until yesterday, and I looked at the interview. And and yes, he said like on for known. But the way he said it and the thing he said practice if you look at the you'll still very friendly. The TMZ guy was like, oh, you know, John Jones said, you know, he probably sees a fight with you down the line. And he's like, okay. Great minds, think alike. Yeah. I see that too. You know, he was very complimentary in a way called him a goat. Yeah. I mean, I mean, we also have John Jones who super competitive chocolate del who's not even in his fear. Remember something about him. And he was going. I'm not I'm not trying to call Jones's heart. But I'm offering this as a possibility Jones tug contrasts with Ladele is forty something years old. It's a winnable fight Jones. Talking trash with the smaller mentally out of signing. Winnable bullfight, I want John Jones Guna heavyweight more than anything for business and challenged legacy purposes. Does John Jones potentially not want to go to heavy weight right now? So this is. Oh. Read on this. His another reason occur to me. I will say that did not occur to build the road toward another big star in a very winnable fight big pay per view. Does he not want DC heavy? What does he not want pay? Does. He not want that challenge and that smoke. I'm just asking John is always wanted to. Why did you think that's I mean, just because it was out of left field that we've talked about him wanting, you know, we've talked about him and heavyweight scenarios before and in DC, obviously, we're where would they fight if they fight again that sort of thing so for him to say like a the middleweight guy you want to do this. It'd be it. It's a little bit of. At one eighty three. Yeah. Exactly easily makes it. Yeah. I mean, I think that that's the big problem for me is John Jones is huge. Still man. Yeah. So you're like you wanna fly? I mean, it would be it would be compelling because they're both very good fights fighters. But I just I'm not sure it seemed to left field. That's all I also think like it's it might be something down the line. John Jones is smart guy. He's planning seizure knows where Israel to sign as years down the line smart. The line smart. He's probably learned some stuff from his time away because he's plugging himself in almost every scenario. Now, you notice that knows that they did a Connor bit. Exactly now John Jones is doing that. And you got everybody Chirpin about John Jones smart man, and it's also raising on a sinus profile ten to have these big names going after you. We'll say the Anderson Silva's comments. Now, I didn't see the actually read just read the piece where they always seem so out of touch to me. I'm like where does like, I know they're saying way, it's kind of a traditionalist. He likes to respect. All this. And I'm like, dude, you fought like jail, son. And that's where it was born was when he was coming at you. And you know, what I mean like the disrespect is what basically became a thing through that that rivalry. And I might you don't understand how this works. He seems so out of touch with especially like forty three John Jones, especially it's like, oh, how you spend all the good things. He's done this. But I'm sitting there reading that. Like, dude, have you paid any attention to John Jones been doing for the last few years that seems maybe he's out there. What's that? Maybe he doesn't know. He it's possible. Maybe not on Twitter. He has a lot of kids companyman Conor McGregor is tweets. We can just weird. I know like I don't follow him. Lord. I know data said at the press conference on Saturday that he did come out until those guys meeting Habib and Connor stop the madness. Stop starting religious and race wars on two hundred bucks to see Connor be like I have respect for everybody greet performance. Dust innomax is just like can you find the old you prefer like who's the thing? He's a love tweet, whatever he wants. I mean, what I'm saying is forget about the anti Islamic stuff or whatever. But like just tweeting about the fights was wrong with that. When you tweet wet foot last six months in sorta was like I'd love to fight that guy. Great before. It's it's fine. But this was very thick almost reactionary. You won't be be a company player. I'll do. All these guys who are like big stars. And there's no bigger star than McGregor. They often see themselves above the fray like I see the peasants the peasants below me in their with their breaded circuit clap on there. But like, you know, whatever he's he's allowed to do whatever he wants. I just don't pay a lot of mind to it thing about someone was asking me like the internet. Like, why did you start about one of these tweets on one of your shows? And I'm like, I got fifteen hours to kill. I could easily just fill it up with McGregor tweets, but you make a coal segment at segment I can make a show. That's how much I can stretch. But the point is deal really want to hear that as an audience. I don't think people do just on Tuesdays. No. I'm kidding. That maybe on Tuesdays. Yeah. Right. When I'm really dying for especially on a weekend where there's UFC Saint Petersburg. I do not have much to say about this car, but it is happening. So we do have to acknowledge it. Let's start with the main event, Danny there's not much beyond that. But there are a couple of gyms on this card. Have you looked at the card recently Lavinia I read through it yesterday. It's a bunch of. Chevy. And you know, what I'm saying go and ahve jock massive. And it's a bunch of names. You haven't heard of seeing the guys you stay away from an fight game. If they have that on their name. You don't want anything? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dead Wikipedia links. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of dead. A lot of dead with some tough ass names. That's what it is. So I'm not saying it's going to be good or bad, although I- conspicuously, you don't see the you never know how good a fights go to bid till it happens, which is true. But you also have to get me to watch it by having a list of names that I cared senior. Neither here nor there. Okay. Let's talk about the main event. There are some names that I want to see Alexia clinic is back. Yes. Basically after the best one of his career taking on Alastair over him who we spoke to recently on on our and he's been a million on the places to he's a big name. He's still is he still has championship ambitions. I guess what? I'm wondering is. What does this fight do for him in that regard? I don't think much as far as getting him super close with title because you know, Lennick, although he is coming off a nice win or marquan. He's not someone that that we're revered as championship material ins been you know, and championship status or contention for a long time. I need. I mean, he's just starting to knock on that door. So you know, he's he got a win before that. Right. And then before that he had the credits late blades law. So you know, he puts knockout. If I win streak, which is which is definitely nice. And it's it's definitely a a base in something to build upon. But I wouldn't say he'd be knocking on the title on it. But. Situation. And look it's was supposed to be vocal, right? It was a. It was a. So I feel like that would've actually probably placed them a little that would have been much better. It's kind of unfortunate for him that he's halves this fight. Which is kind of a showcase out. There was Volkov was in Saint Petersburg, this one thing. Now, it's become something else. But this using his name. This is a stay busy out. Don't this steeping tap that time according to what is in Cleveland Campbell. What is your sensible with this fight is this is just an old name on the main event of a bad car? That's really not for us in the states. It's four. Yeah. Showed fans, obviously, we get access to it. One PM in the afternoon. I think is the main card star on the damn plus. But does nothing it's just it's just if you win looking ahead we dozen your nothing does something wins a win almost by fight windstream more than a loss. It does nothing more than not fighting at all. And you know, it also he's he's headlining as you have see court favors. You said it's a nasal the truth though, Jimmy Hicks Brian Campbell over there believes guys in a UFC main event, his responses, you might as well just be mowing his yard as nothing more than that. Money. He's giving them their name his name. Exactly. I mean, ultimately what basically you're saying. It's a favorite for the company. Right. And if you're in good, you're in good business with the US, they might might give one year old, and you're not entitled contention you either fight other cards claim about say isn't title contention. What I'm saying is how it heavyweight. Can you say he's ever far from it? There's always the disclaiming. That's there. And you're right, but heavyweights got a bottleneck on the right now, he doesn't seem to have a title contending gin at the moment. He had of his career. Yes. Lobski just went on to run. It happens. You get I am not. I am not afraid to bring truth to this chair. Just while we have here. Have your these European shows are the at least they're still a platform for something in fact happen because you do get that that day is basically. It would just be more Asian Russian. So it's a weird. Well job. Yes. If that is weird. Okay. I'm like the real liner here. Helsinki. But the real winner could be. All of a sudden, he's in the sense. Like, it reminds me over doom versus over and back in the day when they were fighting the strikeforce grand prix because if it goes to the ground, we've got a whole different situation. Stay if it's remain standing, I love those kind of stylistic thing who's going to be able to do what? And obviously Olympic has some pretty fun submissions. It's a it's a fun match up. I dunno like. Will say this though, people have made the most of these types of things, you know, Mazda it all and until for instance, that was a good fight. I was of course, a big fight. But the fact that it was the only fight is the main event of a UFC, and it's under this in the right now in our day and age when it was kind of paying attention to proof early. At least it's just you have a chance. It's always the earliest always going to be meaningful insensitive to be more visible than maybe it usefully. Well, here's the thing. What does it do for Lennick if he wins? What does it do for all-star? If you loses. Because we're all this whole conversation. Yeah. And predicated on over him just sort of steam, it would be very detrimental overeating contention days. Because Campbell was saying it does nothing much bad form if you lose. He goes a step down in wherever he is in the holding area of veteran title contender. If we need them in somebody else gets hurt somebody else falls out, but you still in that same pool, you know, but that pulls washy, and that's where he isn't. It's fine. It's great. You can make old guys celebrity money. Refrained limit the second half of his career off just staying active. We got Vondra late for you in China. I'm there. That's what that's what you do. Right now. He's not necessarily in contention or falls out with a loss. No, no. Right. Definitely hurt. Because right now ring still has a big name. If you strings another win after this one, let's say he gets Pasolini all of a sudden, you could be possibly putting out serve arena in that conversation. Now, if he loses man, especially with the talent that's a heavyweight now you can almost forget about the title in a way. I mean, you never know crazier things have happened. But at thirty eight man, that's what so fast. Brian's analysis broke his Brian has a real different perspective than all of us because he is jaded from years of boxing coverage. You've got a real cynical. I was gonna say gas too, but the fatalist boxing silence. Support because the enemy everyone's a little bit shipper about the upside of things all the time leading journalists and media madness up to Ryan walks in and goes washed washed dead. And you don't really see that a lot of media. I I don't agree a lot. But I really respect them for those stupid. Thank you. Like over in history. Proven that they're not out of it. Yeah. Heavyweight division. It says we've seen guys like Mark hunt guy marquan had like a six seven record. If he went on his run. So you just any old. He was as old as as ovary minutes also in that card. Islam Akayev is gonna be on it into Nina AL's get her name real shift chink. Shivshankar walks rocks. That's actually, synchronized workout also on the ground motive fairy is light years ahead of shift Janko, but motiva- had a piece on the elbow this week talking about how actual real physicality has been her downfall shift chango, do you guys? Remember her run engineer on the contender series in the clinch? She was mobbing women's she is very strong, very powerful. So is it interesting fight. Actually, I really am very curious to see how that one is down. And then there's a bunch of dogs. You never heard of let me quickly go through this. No, I'm not. I'm not even I'm not even lying. It's like I do for a living. And I haven't heard of half these people. Yeah. Here we go. You have see Saint Petersburg on this on the air. I'm sure our boss Brian is loving this. This is just the the criminal DMZ. Here's your co means taken on armband started Yuqin. Sergei Pavlovich actually has a decent headway prospect who lost I believed over him taking on Marcello gome. I've insure Kotov ticket on Devin Clark, very ship Jayco Kristof Jaakko is back against Alan. I'm in Dobbs ski, and there's a bunch of other ones as well. So there you go that'll be savage if you wanna see that, I guess, okay. So when one of you mentioned, which let's get to him. He gets inducted into the UFC hall of fame. I believe in the pioneer wing, which we the most deserving one jug, you like narratives I'll start with user cats was around. I was I'm old enough to remember when people said rich Franklin was gonna mall Anderson sellers. I remember this. I remember this very distinctly. And I remember the. Rushed tones in the bar as back when I was watching here. I remember everyone. I'll I'll never forget where I was at. I was at a hooters in Richmond Virginia soccer, and I'll never forget, everyone was like rich rich rich. He goes in there. I'm sorry. Got body body was in Fargo, North Dakota. Okay. And I remember everyone. It was like a funeral up in there. No one saw coming. It was now and you're like how could have not seen the coming. Trust me. Mill one saw that coming at the time. Well, it became Anderson. Silva's kind of coming out party rights to beat him in the way. He did. Because I think we all he was a pioneer in that sense. Yeah. Was that right? At the cusp of that boom period. When it was there was like five names, and you would know rich Franklin was one of those on the colts, and you know shorts and all that stuff. I mean, he was the guy who you just your new school. Jim Carey, you know, it's like looking them fight, man. Look miss knows. It's a little Kroger. Crazy that sort of thing. A low love him. He was very articulate. He was one of the first guys. I was. Yeah. Very friendly. Very, but he explained fight game in ways that people didn't really know before George saint-pierre, even yes, Liz, articulating kind of the we're not a bunch of madman. He was doing it. And I felt like that's one of his big contribution. He was the first guy who took a truly scientific approach one hundred percent. And then you then and then you had a couple of crazy knockout, they still use that on that Bob Reilly, the thing is they still have that Nick Lory one front and center, and you know, which is a good performances by Tanner, wind chill course, finding. Thailand, the pioneer wing is. Absolutely, right. He was one of those guys who original guys who was really bringing it through. Right. When everybody started to get the curiosity got to a pitch. And I felt like he was right there to kind of explain it and help those people to let me follow up. If I mean we worked on the table. What is the story of his career? I'm not asking why he's in the hall of fame. Although that if you answer he'll we'll get to that. What what what what what what does? He means. An original champion, man. He was one of the original guys who is going around with that belt. And I think when you saw them like, that's the way I see him is just one of those guy. Like mad Hughes had a little bit of that vibe. There's other guys like that. But for Franklin to me, I think it's because of the weight class, it got a little bit more of an I agree that he was just a people love them the people who are into it. They really loved him. So he was kind of like the original champion, and that meaning like a champion for the sport is well because I felt like he did a great job of that, you know, just kinda turning people onto it. So that's where he's at my mind. And then later, obviously, he was that guy. He was kind of a company man more than he would just step up fight. Anyway. Do whatever they asked him again that was sort of admirable because so many times he would just hey, we need somebody rich. Are you available? A new jump in fight a guy. He also happens to be great all-time fighter. But I think the bigger legacy is right champion right time at a point when the sport and the promotion was trying to go back to the paper of you level and compete with boxing, and they had an accessible guide to the fans who you could pitch as easy to talk. He's a teacher by day before this. We could do documentaries on him and show him to great husband is this nice guy during a time when they were basically saying, hey, look at boxing. They're all bunch of rejects who would be, you know, Harman on the street, if they weren't in the sport, we have college graduates, we have regular Joes. And I think that made the that was a big part and making this more accessible. I agree with these two. Like, it was they needed rich Franklin that time because you were a teenager with. Yeah. I remember I started around the time. I started tuning in. Because I remember Anderson Silva's rise. I remember his debut against Chris been right? So I remember those rich Franklin fights. And I I was telling my brother on rich Franklin's gonna beat them even in the rematch. I'm like, no, he's still got. Flukes the people who we didn't. We weren't introduced the thing is that for at least for me those around the first time, I started seeing the clinch and the more challenge any other than that like any other fights. We didn't really see the more with engine. And you're not not not to that degree. Not said agree. My whole thing was like, wait your head out. And then you're good, right? But it works. Yeah. So on my space. I did have my speech midnight in front of. So does the time. We're like the C needed to kind of get away from like these these guys are because I remember when he was fighting. I don't think I don't think they use even had Brandon gloves. No. So it was a time where they were stepping away from the, you know, one night tournaments this barbaric thing. And look we have this guy that has a master's. We have this guy that that's super intelligent articulate if you don't remember as well. But he was also like Mr. reliable like you can plug them in any main event any event, and he was also interesting because when he lost the title thous around the time where the UCLA heavyweight division was at its best to golden era the rampage right Forrest Griffin. All those guys were up there. And all of a sudden he started going up and having interesting fights the Forrest Griffin Venderley Silva. And then he kind of added Henderson, Dan Anderson. He added a new layer where you're like, oh what happens if we plug him in here. And it was pretty exciting as well. He also coached the ultimate fighter one which gave a huge boom to to lead indoors shamrock gets Ken shamrock and y'all no he didn't. No, one was a tour and ladonna. Yes. Or? Because I have the t shirt at were actually on the earlier this week also replaced Ortiz when he was. Going from his American fighter line prepared. Nor was I at the creation museum when he did the ribbon cutting ceremony, which is an actual thing. He hasn't. He's like super into that creation science, which is not actual science, but we can have beards. When was the last time you were clean shaven two thousand nine June two thousand nine. That's how I it's a long story. How we know that whole show. Show. Here's Mark all the things you guys said about which Franklin are important. I would add one more detail, which is for me. We often ask these guys what they're fighting for. And they try to come up with answers for us. And I sometimes I don't even like, you know, because you're out of title contention. Why are you still fighting? You got, you know, here's the thing which Franklin competed at a time where literally the big now in the best guy in his way class was competing. But maybe the best guy ever was competing, and he just got iced out, and I'm telling you there was this narrative about Franklin before the silver fight, and it completely changed after the first one that especially the second one we were like, well, he's just it even called it. Rich Franklin territory, you're in this rich for your riot favor. When there's Josie although around your in rich Franklin territory, but the thing about rich that I don't think it's talked about enough is that it never seemed to dawn on him that that should affect how he took fights or fought in them. I remember he just kept fighting like look at his resume is it the best resume Everett. Emma may no damn good yet. But that dude for the best fighters of his generation, Dan Henderson everytime. Everytime. Do every time. It was like one big name that he never had a quitters mentality. Remember Travis Ludivine from he got taken down past Luder sapphire the arm bar, and he immediately hit the hitchhiker escape got on top. And then pounded him out. It's like this dude never lost his zest for the game. People ask why people compete dude because he wanted to compete. It's a tall tall. But it's the reality. You've just loved to be out there. And do that kind of thing. I'm sure he would have preferred the bigger checks in the belt around his waist, but that wasn't going to stop them. It's a lesson in being an adult. It's a lesson in perseverance. It's a lesson in pursuing that what you love, even if it doesn't love you back the way it's supposed to I don't know. I found something quite like, I don't know what Seneca in a little bit. Like, there's a little bit of just stoicism and resilience thing. And it really was kind of impressive about which friend who watches reality show by by any chance the one he does on YouTube with one, bro. I read books. Come on. No, no, watching one reality show. One buddy seems to be a mixture of the ultimate fighter in like the amazing race. And there's competition. Look, I'm not making a comment about whether it's good or it's not I have no idea. But no, I do not watch it. But you know, then there's the other part then rich career. As a fighter, and he actually folks may not know this actually went and sought permission from the UFC that permission Jackley, but like their blessing to go work at one and it has worked at one. I'm sure in some kind of really helpful capacity because he's still around and he all like everybody in MMA. If you hang around long enough, you piss somebody off who's matter rich Franklin. Now money, maybe he was doing juice like he was making juicy. Lynn juicers forgot about that. I remember when he was big into that did well. He's not afraid to try new things. She's trying to. That's what I'm not saying. He was some kind of like adventurous jump off a cliff cliff. Travis Pastrana risk taker. But he never let downsides of things determinants. Right. Didn't alternate fighter. God get the f out will you please. Oh, my God date. Dave cooley. I hear it. Now. All right. God. What do we go from here? Jesus christ. All right. Couple of things very quickly. Let's go through some news and notes here before under the radar. We have time for it. Leslie Smith, Danny signed with belts. We're going to be a featherweight. Here's my question about this for very happy about it. I think it's a great signing. I thought when she got cut member she got cut at UNC Atlantic City Barboza versus Lee, right? You're that's a little wild held. She's only now signed what's so long. I have no idea. But I think it's a great signing. I mean, also she she had you know, the way she was cut. It wasn't because she lost the fight. Right. She didn't even fight June five I believe she was, you know, filing a lawsuit against before that or she was looking into doing away last year. Labor claimed. So that might have taken over time. Also, you know, she's working with project spearhead, or I don't know she still has whatever capacity, but she was big inside as well. So, you know, she had her she she had her hands full. But now that she signed with Bill to I think, it's a great signing. It's not like, you know, the names that we're used to seeing these huge names legends. But nonetheless, I think it brings you know, a little bit of legitimacy to belts her in the sense of like, look she stood up for all the fighters, and she was so transparent with the media with the fighters. It almost felt like she was always like, you know, advocating for the right things, you know, looking to Ryder right like, but it's like she was more symbolic of this. Yes. So I mean, if you have her in your company, and she's happy with you. I think that says a lot about your company and your promotion, I think that's that's something. What's the story? I can't have comment on everything. But I will say is this another fighter wouldn't union. Yes. To get. You have seed do not know who is Smith this. I know she is. I mean dot Danny covered. It do. I mean, I don't have a deep. Take good for more cases. Let me pitch it to. You there stage one stage two would be is billets were courting somebody who's gonna put an emphasis on their labor practices because while I can see Bella tour being able to pitch this as hey where the fighters organization, you're not which is true. Like, you see a lot of people go there and be like, oh my God. I got treated very differently than people complain about the treatment of Biltmore. But okay, you get the idea. However, they don't have a union there either. It's all the same issues. So are they a little bit? I don't know of Cording disasters or at word. But are they going to bring attention on themselves at the other wise wouldn't necessarily not because they're so fighter friendly. And they've proved that they allow you to get your own fighter sponsorships things like that make make the decision making a lot better for you. In terms of you, talk to anybody that's signed Rory and all those guys is just so much better. It just seems like a natural fit. I don't necessarily think she's gonna it's gonna lead to normal rate type stuff. What do you think? Chuck. I mean, it's not like a Colin Kaepernick situation where it's one of those were nobody. She starts kneeling. The weird thing is though there is a little bit of like when you see her name, regardless of what it's attached to at this point you can't help. But think it's a little bit polarizing in the sense of you know, the US wha what she's done with the U of C. And you you can admire it or you can think she's rob rouser hobby. You wanna look at it. That's who she is at this point. I think that I think it's wait and see I wouldn't be surprised either way. I wouldn't be surprised if she gets along with Bella tour, and it's it's all good. You know, and there's there we don't even ever hear anything about any, you know, and stuff, but I will equally would be surprised if for some reason bell towards in her crosshairs in right? She lost the best you she has a sense of mission to her. She said even with the UFC. You don't have to hate the UFC two better. Yeah. It's the same same short. Right. I mean, it's just so I don't expect her convictions to go because she's with bell tour. I do think I don't know how much we should be careful about this. I don't know how much stock has risen as a popular figure, but as a visible one. I mean, she was out there for presidential candidate, Andrew. Our yang. He did a rally in San Francisco. She gave the opening message for it. She was on the show with Samantha b and did like a talk at like what Rutgers or something like that. Name out a little bit here. I wonder if some degree of like. And I wouldn't blame them if they were Biltmore cashing in on that a little something to that. Because she's looking to be there's the other part about it. What if she signs the Bill tour Biltmore treats her well, and then she still goes after the UFC villa tours? Like, hey, we're happy to have, you know, give her a platform. You wonder about that too now necessarily they certainly have a little bit of a he'll vibe like that. I so I wouldn't put a pass them just idea that they just did it to buttress their women's featherweight division. Is there like when you get a little I like me a little conspiratorial look into it. Are very quickly. Reisen fifteen is this weekend is going to be in Yokohama. There's a bunch of fights in her you couldn't care about. But Mola the wall in the main event for the inaugural rise in light championship against the guy whose name I am certainly to mispronounce Jerry, Brazil sokaia he'd be. He's a devout you before have that. He not right. Dating or two Japanese Emma Mary apologised for his rushing. However, tensioness Calla is back in action in a catchweight about from kickboxing fighting up pactel's boy, that's right. Al-din blog ton- cugiharu Gucci against Ben wind that that's going to be there. Five very good fight. That is a catch right there. But then we and then another one that's great is the there. They've got them label. Here's Roberto Susan is for to Toshi. He was the guy that is a dragon ball z thing ever done. He's going to be against the Tokyo kit kit oca-, so that's a really rich thing fight as well. Rena Kubota is going to be back on the card Damian Brown. You have vets on the card. Do we have any strong feelings about it? Anybody? I love me some kickball be cheering for him. But that's about it. Yeah. No. That's it. You know, whether we just Scoggins was supposed to be on. He's not, you know, what's funny to me sort of occurred to me, it was like all of the people who are like I had to dig this one in all of the people are like, yeah. PD is assault. I feel bad for Reisen because I made it would it would stand that those people would take a principled stance and not watch something that would be that would make them moral hypocrites and totally bankrupt. And based on the responses I've gotten that's a huge portion of the community. So I feel really bad that rise in is going to suffer from people being real moral stewards of the arguments that they make to me this show. These more honest talk about PD's. Yeah. They haven't made communities not ready to hear it. But everybody who's out there claiming PD's assault. You better not say one word about this card. Not one one put that out here now. All right. So here we got the over the radar now. Let's try the. All right. Bye. Taking by job for me. Let's go to a now time now for our last segment here under the radar a story that was a building of them. This time story that was decent worth being mentioned at me. We just didn't get to started this way forward. Chuck what is under the radar. Well, I we sit we've seen multiple comebacks from this guy. Nick Newell is one time. He's way attorneys fighting in a. In Connecticut, where he's from with C S coming up. I think at the end of may, and it's good to see him. I wasn't sure if he'd come back again after he had his his big moment because I know he'd been trying to get new is kind of the dream his to fight in. You'll see he had the loss in his last one win the Dana White's contenders series. So it's good to see him back. I think it was what last July or something like that. So he he's coming back in as I always love his story. So I'm glad to see he's going to continue on all right under the radar there. Anyone who falls? My work knows. I've got a big beef against you have just not making a decision about the men's flyweight division like just make a decision. Well, it seems we're closed or we have because post fight UFC two thirty six in Atlanta. Henry Suto was there. And he claims when asked the flights are stay in just ask Dana will we did just as Dana. And he said the flyweights are staying without a big announcement at didn't slide under the radar. So that's great by the way because they're making a decision. So shouts all this flyweights. So why in the damn heck is Henry pseudo fight for the bantamweight titles? Still it just doesn't even out. I think. Half the Rus. Yeah. There's a guy named Joseph in Vitas champion, a flood would just make that them fight. It's like I want them to pick a side and they did. But we're still going to carry on. They'll wait has names. What are we doing here? What are the damn? Like that fight at all. It really bothers me. And I love me some khudobin stick is getting corny. All right. Here's the worst part about that. It's making Marlins say things that he ordinary wouldn't say either. I don't think he's tried to do the trash talk thing here or there and hold up. It's a leg match the intensity of an opponent. But he's not really great at either. I don't really need to hear from him his style is so violent. Yeah. He was just watch. What he does the, you know, just mopping the floor with these guys. I don't know it just doesn't do it for me. So what happens if he wins the championship? They're what do we do? We're gonna have a vacant. Interim flyweight championship bout with the two guys who were left in division. Just like, you know. All right. Sorry. All right. Then it was under the radar gun. Ya is in a coma. Apparently she had an injury in training camp. She signed with combat the America's, and I believe it was something like a dislocated this and she used a nerdy on this. And she used a nerve blocker. I believe the deal with the pain, and which apparently caused the costarring rare neurological disorder so she's been posting or her team in the Bella Puerto Rico has been posting a lot of updates on her Twitter account. But apparently, yes, she's in a coma. So. We should. Well, you're eating up Hannah and Hannah, no, I have not super good. Yeah. Early each other great follow. All right. Sorry. It just rang a bell my memory. I apologize. This show. Got me. They're a little bit sorry about that in any event. So last, but not least Burt Watson famous babysitter to the stars. He has announced he is starting his own promotion cold. We rolling. Sean Maryland's new promotion. Let's just keep rolling them out there. Yeah. It's funny that people are doing this a little bit. Just a second any of it. I think the first of it is going to south Florida thing Broward County, Broward County. There you go. And it's going to be at the Seminole hard rock hotel and casino UFC used to go there. I won't say regularly. But they would have smaller fight nights. They're not too infrequently. So we're going to go back you'll fought there against Machida. That's right. That's right. He doing well series had a bunch of events there. Yeah. So. It's a popular destination for a lot of reasons to your point though. You're right. I had show amendment my show too. I think he's gonna like the lights out emanate pro league or something after his bare knuckle escapade never happened. I asked him where are you going to fight? All I'm gonna find on my show. So I'm like any kind of belts or you have c-. Embiid has done. He was like. Yeah. I'm just going to find on my show like, okay? I mean, I can't really almost to say about that. So all right. We'll you go those are the under the radar stories. Alright. So that is it for us today. We are definitely not going to be on next week. Because if my child is not born before then she my wife will be induced on that day. So a no way I'm going to be here next week. And now we got that either to be quite candid with you. So they're going to figure out something. But there might be a bit of a break in the show. Just server windows ahead of time because I got a I've reproduced everybody. Hey, bring I've gotta bring a life into this world, which I'm sure is scarier for you than it is for me. All right. So that's it for us. But keep sending us those tweets using the hashtag the, Emma. Maybe we appreciate it. There was a bunch this time can only get you what I can get to. But we think everyone for sending us. Thanks so much for watching the show as always that is Chuck Bryant, Danny? I Luca till next time ends up shinned down. Let them fly. This is the may be. Everybody. I'm Neil Patel editor in chief of the verge in. This is the verge cast. I guess is the flagship podcast is the verge every week. We cover the latest in tech news reviews. We took a critical look at what is going on now. 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Episode 20: Cormier, Adesanya & Abdelaziz & Eubanks in studio, Miocic, Cannonier and more

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Episode 20: Cormier, Adesanya & Abdelaziz & Eubanks in studio, Miocic, Cannonier and more

"Uh-huh. Gentlemen. Back in your life on this Monday, November fifth two thousand and eighteen. Hello again, everyone marry a Hawaii welcome back to the program. Hope you had a nice week. Hope you had a nice weekend. It's very rainy afternoon here in New York City, and I do believe that I've a hole in my left shoe because by socks are soaking wet horrible. But it's okay, I'm excited about today's show. We've a lot to discuss with a lot of different people were coming off. You have two thirty New York City Madison Square Garden history was made on two fronts. A first time the m a heavyweight champion of world because let's be honest with you have see built is first time that the heavyweight title was defended at the mecca Ali Frazier. Lewis Holyfield, many other great boxing heavyweights have fought in that building the world's most famous arena, but never before and Emma may has been done. It was done on Saturday night. Daniel cormier is still the reigning defending UFC heavyweight champion he submits Derek Lewis in the second year. We're naked choke also of note that night. Oh, and by the way, the other thing was Dan accordia is the first minute to successfully defend. A built in two different classes, how about that huge night for the two thousand eighteen footer the year as of right this moment. Something's going to happen in the next two months. Ba- right now three no three finishes to belts for way. Classes pretty damn good year for the third nine year old Dana Cormie. Chuck race ozo- breaks, Chris widens heart in the third round. With knockout. What performance what fight that was? Unbelievable. Israel out of Sonya has arrived. He is no longer the future. He is the present what a win over Derek Brunson. Jared cannon year taking a fight on two weeks. Notice. A lot of fun things happen on Saturday. Of course, it wasn't the stat card that you'll see two five and two seventeen were. But it was a fun night at MSG. And as always luck going on in the world of 'em may and combat sports. How about Floyd Mayweather going to rise in? We'll talk more about that on the Poche show with Newark, Rick who is back from his six month long vacation, and I do believe Hawaii. And so we'll talk to him about that. We'll talk to him about two thirty all that and more. That's coming up on the post show. But today on the program we're talking to thirty. We've got three in studio guests we've got a lot of big name stopping by slummy run down today's lineup. And then we shall get to our first guest of the day. So jar Eubanks is going to join us at around three forty to talk about her win over rocks out of ferry. You probably know that she missed weight. She won that fight. But she was probably the one person on this card who could not miss wait, she missed weight, and she heard it from the local crowd. She's a New York fighter and. They booed her somewhat polarizing fighter now. But she is someone who seems to be embracing the booze. So that's interesting. She's going to be in studio. We have apparently squashed our beef. Speaking of beefs a lot of you are probably in the dark when it comes to my relationship. These days my business relationship if you will with Ali abilities. It has been a rough month for us. And so we have decided to have an airing of grievances on this program. I don't think you think this interview is going to go the way you think it's gonna go. That's just a hunch Elliott those will be in studio at around three o'clock, lots of talk about with him is out of sign. It will be back. The rare double double the rare two weeks in a row in studio. Visit it's only been done once before those John Cavanaugh before. And after two five out of sun is a second to do it. He was here last week back this week talking about the win over Derek Brunson. Jared cannon euro, join us at one forty five and the champ champ himself, the double check. Danna Cormet will stop by a man of his word tradition. Is he comes back after his wins? He'll be doing that in around twenty minutes. But first, let's talk to a man who has had an unbelievable month. Head coach over at the American kickboxing academy last month in Las Vegas. He was there when hubby Maga magnate one Saturday night, he was there when Daniel Cormet one what a month what a year for AK what a year for have your Mendez. He joins us now via the magic Skype. Hello heavier. Hello areo. Congratulations on a big night. Congratulations on a big month. Would you say that this may be one of the best months of your career? Yes. Yes. Definitely definitely has you. If if you're measuring it by populist movements. Yes. Higher percent to pay per views back to back main event, you know, historic winds to the biggest fight cards of the year. It's hard to top that right? Yeah. I've never seen it done. Now never seen the look on. All right. So let's talk about Saturday night. I call me wins. It was fairly one sided were you expecting it to be that one sided. I wasn't near. I wasn't expecting it. Because I never I never do that. I always always prepare my guys for five rounds, you know. And there was to be respected. And we didn't know exactly you know, how was going to go. We thought we were going out wrestle the hell out of him right from the get-go like, Dan Henderson style. And so I was confident all the way going in to it. But let me explain to go back to it. All started the call for mic Maynard about three weeks. He said, hey, what do you think about their Brunson, and these and I said I like the matchup. Yeah. Favors us. Yeah. I like it. He goes. Okay. Goes what do you think about number November third? I went oh, I said. Well, you know, I guess because you know, he's got a weakness as we expose, but you know, what let let the this decide that if this is I'm on board. So now, you gotta get DC to be on board. He calls. These CDC says, hey, let me make sure my hand holds out. And if my hand holds out on good next day, these hitting the pads went Rosendo Sanchez, and he said, he's good to go. So we took the fight is first barring session was horrific where like is crazy about we're going. Oh boy. So bad his where he hasn't done anything. Right. He's been doing commentating doing all these other things his first fired session was was not what we were expecting. Really? Yeah. His second one was like fifty percent better. And he's third one. Whereas like, we were like, okay, we have it. We haven't no problem. But then he's back went out. Yeah. And I wanna ask you I wanna ask you about the back of the second. But first how worried were you about the hand? Clearly, he didn't need in the fight. But just the fact that he was going in with a fairly injured hand, how worried were you? I was but we were hoping are wrestling with what you take what was going on. And if you watch the fight he didn't use his right hand that much. She was mostly using his left hand fear of that. Okay. So okay. Let's talk about the back. He told us on Saturday night about what happened. But what's the story from your perspective? When did you find out and how concerned were you when you actually saw the state that he was in? Okay. What normally these? He always goes through some kind of something. Always happens to him. And it's back went out about a week and half ago. And I was like crap here we go again, and he could hardly walk. You know? And you know, so we, you know, he does a the hyperbaric chamber where he goes to sleep, you know, a lot. And then all of a sudden he comes back next as feeling pretty good. He's like for wolverine, you know, always gets better quicker. So I'm going into the fight thinking. Okay. We haven't. Everything's perfect. Is last session was fantastic. I mean, he did perfect everything we needed from him was perfect. Then we're going. We're going to the fights. You know, I'm ready going to the fights. And crazy Bob says to me, hey, I didn't wanna tell you. But these back when out when he sneezed this morning without doctors with them for hours, and I'm might just turn white. You know, like oh. Now, I'm worried because we gotta take it easy. We gotta make certain we warm up. Right. So here I am always thinking about the warm the warm up. Okay. So I had the the people from the Rena turn on the heater to people more, you know, and, but then all of a sudden area when he starts doing hit when he starts talking to solve when he goes come on DC. Let's go, you know. That's when I knew that everything that I that. I was concerned about went away. Okay. Wow. What a story that would have been right. If he'd had to pull out because he's sneeze and blew out of that. He or of horrible horrible. Okay. So he wins. Thank god. Nothing happened with the back. He looked fairly. I mean, there were very few moments where it didn't look like he was in total control afterwards. He talks about Brock. Do you really believe he is sticking to this? He says it's done March. I'm turning forty. There's a pay per view two weeks for my birthday. It's going to be Brock less. Do you really believe that that will be retired? Fight. I want you know. I'm doing everything I can to to make that reality. You know, I wanted to retire. You know, I wanted to retire on top. You know, he he has so many other things to do aerial. He could join you, you know, how many of the things that he can do these. So so good at you know, he doesn't need the fight forever. You know, he's forty years old could going to be forty you know, he has enough money. So so why not make the big giant pay day with Brock and then move on you know, him as well. As anyone you know, how competitive he is do you really think he can walk away without third crack at Jones. I hope that he is. I want to believe he is. I wanna believe is why why don't you wanna see him beat John because I don't think he needs to how of meat anymore only if he wants to he don't need to not for his legacy. He doesn't need it. Okay. Well, why do you feel that way? Because to me there's an asterik behind that play and both fights as far as I'm concerned that that to me they don't count to me. Okay. So what do you say to someone who says, okay? You guys are pushing the Brock fight. He's got a checkered past as well. Why not just try to go for John and their retirement fight rather than broad who's coming off suspension to prize fighting. What is more Brock? Sorry. Yeah. No person. Is there anything that? Brought does that really concerns? Like, honestly feels to me like this is like the Floyd Connor fight for DC. Biggest name easiest fight. To me he's harder than than the than their Lewis. You know, he's a better wrestler. We can't raise can't wrestle him. We have to stand with this guy with Derek the plan was to take him down. I said to dad Henderson style. I go. Why would you wanna stand down Henderson when when he's got the H bomb? You know, said hey can. I said, hey, can I don't want you stand with him stupid. We were all all the coaches Roseanne, though, Sanchez Reutemann those and buck grains about cook. We're all saying the same thing over Nogan take down. We don't want. We don't want you get into fight because he does that. They I knew like with dick with Gustaf it, you know, I was perfect. And all of a sudden Casaus hits them with the knee. That was it. He didn't give it no more. He was gonna hit back. And that was it. No more take him down. And we tried to take him down. He wouldn't do it. He didn't want to do it. He halfway dried. You know? When you know, you're fighting, you know, your fighter he just wanted to be a opposite. Because with that me beautiful. Now, let me ask you about last month because we haven't talked after two twenty nine Habib economy Gregor afterwards. You know, the mailing twos. We know about all that and more. What do you want him to do next up to you? I haven't heard you really weigh in on this. There's a lot of talk about this that it seems like Floyd is off the table. Thank God for now. But what do you want him to do next? Got you. But I wanted to be one of that fight the biggest prizefight of and also let's face it. Okay. I heard it's Japan. Yeah. Yeah. Always known for doing some sneaky crap. So who knows how real that's going to be is going to be a real fight. It wasn't going to be then not to be the what what the deal is gonna be is going to be a real fight or exhibition fight. What is it going to be? We don't know. Japan's known for that. And also I heard getting a hundred million. Okay. If he's only getting one hundred million why the hell is Floyd gonna do something for a hundred million when he knows damn wealth. You find someone like how is going to make three to four doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense to me. So something's going on what's going on. I don't know. Is it entertaining for Japan? Great. But I mean for the mass public over here. They don't know the other guy. So I personally don't think it's a big deal on the US. I think it's a big deal in Japan. I think is huge into pan. And I think that's probably all they care about. It's going to be huge over there. So you saying that you're still holding out hope that his next fight is against Floyd. No, no, I can't pull that hold on. We don't know what's going on. I'm just saying I don't know what's going on with the other one. Whether it's a real fight or exhibition. I'm just talking numbers here Floyd talks three hundred million. Plus, right. So he's getting one hundred million from what I hear. And I don't see the paper of you being high over here you I don't see. No, no because his name. And it's going to be in the middle of the night. But DC has said publicly few times. Look, I love hubby. I don't wanna see him fight Floyd Floyd gonna beat him. He's just a better striker. We all know what he's good at. We all know it gives good at as his striking coach. Do you see any scenario in which you could actually beat Floyd Mayweather in a boxing match, well to be realistic where you know, we have a chance, but we have the same kind of cast Conard in which is you've you've figure that one out. We wouldn't fight the same as Connor. But where we have the same chance. I could tell you this. We'll go twelve rounds. He doesn't stop him. No, okay. We go. So we have around the potential knock out what about from an MA perspective. If this suspension is into by what do you think that they're going to give him? What do you think nomad is going to give him? What do you think? He. I think probably gonna find him anywhere from two hundred fifty to four hundred thousand dollars in probably suspend them from six to eight months. Maybe that's what I'm thinking. They've been pretty harsh in the past with everybody in because the public was involved in this, and I see that as a potential. I hope I'm wrong. I hope I hope they understand that that the man was you know, his buns were being pressed right from two months out. And I don't know who in the world would never attacked those guys any sooner. I think anybody else would have tax sooner with all the tax was put on him, you know, from his father to to his religion too political. I mean, I mean he hit every single button. And I just wish you wouldn't. He's such a great fighter Connor is. And he's such a great marketer that why did he go there? And he didn't have to do that. He could've went the other route got just as much attention and not create. Hey, you know, he created. Hey, you know, and I just wish you wouldn't have done. It is a great fighter is one of the greatest. I feel. Well in in. And I thought he fought a fantastic fight. You know, he came out. Really smart. I didn't expect him to come out. And do it. He did which is what he came at us. I thought he was going to do is trademarks laidback same back, wait to counter us as we're coming in. That's what we were planning for. But when he came in and attacked us. And then, you know, a lot of people are not giving him enough credit and the way he defended in the first round because I know how good hubby. Is extremely well. Man. He took no damage. You know, none at all. And it wasn't until you start getting a little tired. And of course that overhand right in. And I don't think he was ready for for for the striking. I don't think he was ready for striking. I told you guys every single time. I do an interview hobby striking is getting better don't sleep on it and everybody only striking every single time. And look what happens Dana white said on Saturday night that he spoke to Connor Connor wants the rematch. What do you think about that? Do you have any interest in that for your guy? You know to me, it's whatever the you have seen whatever he wants. If that's what he wants then. Okay. I don't know. I haven't talked to Habib I've been trying to get a hold of them. But aren't you know, the time difference over there? And you know, hey, if that's what the UFC wants and hubby once and I'm in. So you haven't had a discussion with him about what he wants to do next. No. The only discussion I had is he told me he said, I want I want I want may with coach I want Mayweather, please. If you people talk, you push Mayweather, really want Mayweather 'cause. Yes. I want may weather. It goes if it doesn't happen. Okay. But I want him. I said all right. Okay. All right. So, hey, whatever that kid wants whatever reason he wins, man. Every time he's been in the Jimmy tells me how to do this. And I'm looking at like, no, you're crazy. No, no, please. Let me do it. Please, please. And he ends up dominating. I'm like how the frequency do it. He's so strong his dad trained him to just be mentally straw. Is stronger than anybody. I've ever I've ever felt and look in other thing area. This is how strong is his religion. Okay. After the fight, you know, he was the five the biggest fight of his career. We're at all these house, and he says to me, and my friend Jake Jacob Chabot says he goes, hey, can you guys please excuse me? I have to go pray. Wow. Okay. You give me a break. You think that you attack his religion? That's not gonna affect this poor guy. It sure as hell did. Yeah. And you know, it's like how can you Paul them for what he did? I don't think anybody in the right mind that understands who loves their family and their dad that understands that those are the kind of things that men from people kill you for that. I remember talking to you win. This fight was first announced and asked you if you had any concern that he would be to emotional in the fight. Clearly, it did not affect him. He fought at his best. He looked for nominal. But did you have an inkling that if he won the fight that something might happen where you worried all week long that something might happen. Because how personal this got? I was worried about during I wasn't thinking about after. So everyday I will talk to him. Please. Remember us everything he's got to go against him. He's gonna talk father is going to talk about politics gonna talk religion. I need you to stay on the state relaxed because he has coach I'll stay relaxed everyday area was talking to him. And then when the fight was over I was out celebrating with people that I know saying, blah, blah, blah, and all of a sudden had hype. And then all of a sudden I went, dammit, why did I? To him about after I did not talk about after how to act, you know. 'cause I know if I would have done that put it in his head two months out after you beat them be a professional. Stay calm, stay relaxed. The people don't wanna see, blah, blah. I didn't do that. I did not do that. And then like a dump I try to get in there and police tell me stale, stay back. Well, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna listen with the law says nobody beats the law the law tells you stay back stay back. You know, I noticed that he apologized to there was a clip of him saying sorry to afterwards. And you said you don't have to apologize. Did you feel like at any point? It got a little too far. Maybe not even with Habib. Both other members of the team. I know, you know, viral you coach him as well. Like were you disappointed about anything that happened afterwards? I was disappointed the junk h. Yes. Absolutely. Because regardless regardless is still wrong. I understand why he did it. But it's still wrong. I can't condone that I can't say no, I don't blame him. No bullshit. You know, it was wrong. But but I do understand why in I'm not in his shoes. And I I'm not religious like he is. But I'll tell you the only thing that would affect me as family if someone talks about my family, 'cause my father a rat a terrorist and all these kind of things, I don't know. I bought attacked them at the press conference. You know, I probably can say I wouldn't have I probably would have, you know, and he waited that long. So that's pretty amazing. What is your gut say right now as far as next fight? What do you think happens does he fight? While you're they know wants that one O'Connor Connor said today. No Connor said today. Yeah. You know, to be honest with you Mike says data's the boss. So if we can say I can say Conor, but Dana could go watch ESP or I want Tony. What do you want your way? If they said to you, what do you want? What would you? What would you like to see you want? The Tony fight you want the DSP what do you want? And you want the Connery match. I personally would want the Connery Magid. But I would like for it to be keep three items out of it. You know, talk talking to now because he's such a great marketer, and you know, to me Connors, one of the greats. And he I don't care what anybody says, he's a great fighter. I've always respected him. And I was well respect him. Just you know, if he can't just if it does happen, just, you know, say something else. Don't don't don't include that stuff. Do you think Zubaira will be cut? I would hope not I would think that would be a bad mistake because Habib is one hundred percent loyal, and he'll give up his whole career. He will give up his whole career for for his friends. Probably is he will die for his friends. So if they do that, and then they lost ho crew all of while you think all of them will leave all of them will is just where they are. What what are you hearing about his status right now? I'm hearing that everything is going to work out. Gotta see what the December tenth commission meeting. But I'm hearing that it's all working out. I'm hearing that everybody's looking at everything they're looking at the videos. They're looking at the was Connor also to Connor struck his cousin when he was on the fans as cousin was looking to jump over to try to help and then Connor cold them. Anyway in Connor's defense. You know, he's you know, he's defendant is friends so for war. So, you know, but he did started. You know, he, you know, have started jumping defense by Connor. Started next by by punching his cousin. You know? That's all all this started. So he had he not done anything. No one would've come after him for anything. But he is just as guilty as how eve is. Wow. What a month for you. Unbelievable. Not bad for a little Jim in San Jose, California to the biggest of the year. You got the double champion. You could be the biggest fight of all time. Congratulations have year, really happy for you guys. Enjoy the victories. And what are you give another fight this weekend and Denver? What do you have next? We have Louise opinion. That's right. That's right. Bob ross. Justin Willis, getting making his big debut against mar content. Australia expecting good results on that one in the white grant is fighting in Milwaukee on December fifteenth, and and then Roussillon might other heavyweight from from Russia. He'll be fighting soon. And Sergei also to the new one that just signed he had been training with us too. So we'll see we'll see what happens, but there's a lot of good things. And the biggest one of all his, hey, man. Get came Alaska's going guess, where's where's he's been ready to go? So what's the problem? Negotiations broke negotiations. I don't know what's going on is negotiations. But he's ready to go. He's hungry. You know, I was working them out in in in New York in the room. He's he's ready to go. He's been ready to go. It's just a matter of people coming together, his lawyer his manager with the UFC and ironing out. But that he is healthy. Yeah. Are we waiting for that that that's the only thing holding it up? All right. You know, it isn't. He doesn't wanna fight. It's just a matter of them coming up hitting the right numbers that they want. I mean, come on everybody everybody that I walk when I walk with him. He's attacked everywhere. You know, he's very very popular people wanting they miss them. They all wanna see him back. I wanna see him back. You wanna see him back? Everybody was him back. You know? So let's get back. You think he fights again? Yes. Okay. Yes. Yes. He fights fights for who. I hope it works out. But but he fights definitely bites. Okay. Wow. The he might leave. I hope not I hope they work it out because if he doesn't if he doesn't get what he wants. He's not fighting. Okay. No money as his contract. You know? So it's the money. It's obviously. Yeah. But I don't know what it is. I don't know what the numbers are. They don't tell me what it's probably good that. I don't know anyways. I'm a big mouth, I blurted out. So it's good that I don't know any other particulars have your thank you very much. Congratulations all the best. We'll talk to you soon. All right. There is have your Mendez headman over at the American kickboxing academy in San Jose, California. And interesting nugget there about Kim Velazquez who was in New York, and that's one of the cool things about AK one of the most loyal teams as far as everyone travelling to the events having their guys back. I mean Rockall supposed to fight on that card gets injured. And and you would think it was devastating still shows up still there to support DC Cain was there. They all fly in. Josh thompson. I saw on the street as well. So huge month. Huge thirty. As for that team with the Bieb winning on October six Daniel cornea winning Saturday night. And they've got some big ones violent Bob Ross making his return on Saturday at U of C Denver the twenty fifth anniversary show. So it never ends in the fight game. And in particular, I k- when they have so many fighters their matter moments. We're going to be joined by Mr. Daniel cormier, the double champ. And what a stretch it has been for him. And in particular on this show. The man is a man of his word he said last week that he'd be back when he won and he will be hopefully joining us at a matter of seconds as well later on. We'll be joined by Jared cannon near who had a big win on Saturday took the fight on two weeks notice against David branch in a new way class, and he looks like I mean, it's unbelievable. How different this man looks deep which is also gonna join us is out of Sanya in studio suggest Eubanks in studio and manager to the stars Ali abilities will also be. Joining us in studio. Great tweet from DC earlier this morning running down his accomplishments this year. Three now three titles. Two different way. Classes I said last night it feels like he's the front runner right now for fighter. This is around the time when you start to think about who's the fighter of the year. And when you consider the year that he's had Habib's had a great year. Although the Barbosa flight was technically in two thousand seventeen so he's only to no. Israel Sonya went foreign oh. Anthony Smith had a good year as well. But. I think two different weight classes to belts three finishes against the top contenders. 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And I'm talking about a very long time. D C is on the match Skype. That's how big this is. Hello daniel. I don't see. I don't see myself. What do you mean? You don't see me? I c I don't see myself. Now, you just flip the camera, and we're looking at your trader Joe's in rich moisturizing. Now, you're back. You don't have to see yourself. Tell the world if you could see me now now we're back. Now, we're back to the moisture national. This is great. This is great. You're on your on Gilroy hawks baby. The old the old got it doesn't even use a computer. I can't believe you did Skype for this one. That must mean, it's a big deal. You want to be seen? Roy wrestling cO. We address something right off the top DC. I get a lot of people who say man, you asked if she to be onto I've Jewish guilt. You ask them to be on your kind of pushing have have I asked too many times, tell me is it going to be too much this idiot. Okay. Very upset. If you didn't ask me on this week while that means a lot. But I'm sorry. You're in the news all the time. Like you've had a crazy like the past four months, you're breaking records or defending titles. You're taking notice John jobs. It's hard not to talk to you. And I have a feeling we're going to be talking to you again soon when you except your fighter of the year. Ward. What do we what do we got him? Yeah. Oh. Give me she please. What do we have there? I just wanted to. I want kinda show few of my my toys. Wow. How many do you have? Eighty eight. They give you a new one every time, I guess area. I guess you could call me a gold digger. Smart. I guess he could call me a gold digger. Wow. That how many have right there. Oh my gosh. Just three three the earlier ones. Okay. Look at that. Man. Life is good life is good. Okay era. Top is very very good as it's off right now. Can you can you sort of? Well, you really did bury the lead on Saturday. Can you give me the real run down the hour by hour rundown of the sneeze heard round the world? What happens tummy you wake goes on as we collect more belt here. We welcome in more toys look at this. This is unbelievable. Okay. What what happens? So. I was in the morning in. So my back is kind of best up. Right. So I got up in the morning, and I was like all its five day. I was like, yes. Perfect. Because I've got I've got a bad back. And sometimes it kind of goes down the left side of my my leg. It's my what my oldest is really bad generally around three weeks training camp. I get this. But I use that like five weeks can't let so tonight just kind of get over it. But. This one on fight week. I was like oh my bags ball, but warm good get going Saturday morning area. I give up. My things are perfect. I feel no pain walk into the bathroom, ice knees. And I will got no it's I bit over because sometimes you eagle shoot go over e kinda Greig like my old. No it hurts. And I was stuck over. I was like man, I'm really earth. So I call Bob guys down for run. I stretch stretch real good. My dad's bother me man got on that treadmill? Rand Tuesday was like I can't do happening. We go back to my room bothered him run out to get heating pads. We call the UFC Dr Davidson comes to my room getting evaluation. They tell me I can't take anything because in New York yet vows ending rose. I got like a paint shot or something. New york. Let you do nothing. Take a couple of Tylenol and be done. So heavy came over massage me gave me a stem machine. I was on that thing all afternoon bed. Chris Camacho rhyming through two extra them sessions and in a row five o'clock win for walk after I walked kinda started to lose a little bit steak died but round two o'clock. Bob was like either you're going to be better. Are you're not flying. Great. Wow. Were you freaking out? Free. And I was like how am I supposed to explain this? Right. Like I kept saying one way to win the fight knows to not now. But to my knowledge I came to find out that he had to he could've won by four. Because this if I didn't fight you have won the fight. By went to the arena was like I can't do this guys here to fight even want. Wow. Crazy. There's there's no returning from that. That would have been a stain on your legacy forever out via sneeze out because but then outta turned into maybe the freighter Derek Lewis, you stay right would have been like this guy's really truly hurt. But it would have been being afraid of Derek didn't wanna fight that that felt like a clinic. Right. I mean, like, look, I'm wrestling expert. I'm not a technical guy. I know my role, but like the headlock to the ankle pick trip, and even I was recognized like this like he's having a field day. I feel like you're having fun out there. I was been got some good techniques off he's done it. A while. I've always said that might take off. It's is a very high because I keep trying to throw different things at equal until something sticks. So I do I try to run the pie trying to get your position. That's my ideal position is to just get him up lifted. Maybe flip them are thrown through the air. But guys got sleep. You guys up on the conversation. That guys got the guys have gotten to the point now where they don't wanna get picked up. They wanna stay grounded so drop all their weight. So now, I try and kick out their back foot knocks down. Then we got back up like, okay snatch singles on this side of the single third time. I got the single putting up on the tree top right up to the shoulder kick the back foot out front headlock ako pick out who am I like, kill Sanderson. Bits off on like it was great. He went back with. No, they were actually scoop the ACL friends that our position with ill. There was also a great great isn't annoying when they're doing you. And you're doing this like you are you are showing excellence and the fans are booing. I just think that I just think that the. The. You ship wrestling on TV, isn't all that high. But would they were in a person that watches Russell's like, oh, this is good technique is technical wrestling. But to generalize. Like, why is he going down say? Nobody's impressed with this. And that the other my pick somebody up and I slam him. But that's only because I am not for the wrestling technique. But realistically people walk into that read it that night with an idea that the may see something truly special in that was there at Lewis scored that upset, but that number was going to happen. I was well prepared and. I will never underestimate anyone. So being that I had short time. I all fair there. So the last time you competed at MSG was two thousand three they give you that amazing plaque which clearly touched you, and I thought it was an amazing classy thing that they did for you was it at all familiar backstage. Did you remember like did you take yourself back the fifteen years ago before all this started? What was it like to actually do what you had always set out to do? And that's headline MSG. It was it was familiar, but it's so that we were wrestling world championships. We got to use the Knicks locker room as the world heavyweight champion. I did not use the Knicks locker while. I. It was fine. But. It was familiar to Lynn remember. Just that that that aura of the real there aren't many places that you walk into in go while this MSG I felt that when I walked to the arena on Saturday night. And it was truly amazing. I'm just a lucky man to accomplish the things that I accomplished in also been to the places that I've been the crazy thing is how all the star seem to be aligning like you sneak this one and you get a nice pay day against the favorable opponent, Adam ac-, which is where you always wanted to fight. It didn't look like it would align. And now they have this event in Vegas, which is a nice little break with with with the timing. That Brock will be like, it's so weird. How all this is just timing out. So perfectly with your plan that you you've been talking about two years now to retire at forty it's strange, right? It's unbelievable with grains. I knew when I took this if I can get through this one. I was like there's gotta be a fight. In March or late cranberry kind of works. But then for it to be March third. It's just ridiculous like and in Vegas like it seems as though I'm not the only one plan all be like somebody else's planning on my behalf. Yeah. Good. Have you heard from Brooke and her bra? Last time I heard for rock. Was a little bit ago at getting back from Saudi Arabia. Not let a three day travel. He's on a jet. He's home by now. Right. He brought lives on ninety shooter cell service. Busy guys. Get ready for the heavyweight title fight to me, the most notable thing that happened all weekend wasn't necessarily what happened in the fight on Saturday is what you said on Friday after the ceremonial way. And I'm Daniel Cormie. And I'm the greatest of all time the goat. And that you admitted afterwards to us on our show that you sort of said that because you knew who was in the building just a couple of minutes prior. They're still on your mind. And that's why you know, I love you. You know, I have a soft spot. I just have a hard time believing you're walking without fighting John one more time. I just I can't I can't buy. There's no disrespect. I'm not calling you liar. You're just too damn competitive. You know? Yeah. No. That's it man. That's it. I don't need it anymore. You know, sometimes you need things. Sometimes you don't in. I I mean. You know, I just don't stand. I don't understand the logic of. I need anyone anymore. I don't come to terms with everything like I said area because he was gone so much I had to remove myself from the situation. So completely that it almost became like not reality. Now, I would happen. Truly retrain my mind to understand that he's a even back in the game. The reality is can I really trust that he's truly going to be back in the game. Because history shows that there will probably be some sort of issue either. Ford Augusta's inviter after the Guston fight it if not regressing fight we schedule a fight. They're definitely going to be issue. Because there's always been addition while I take it back. I actually believe you now, this is the first you seem sincere when did you come to this realization that you don't need him? It was a long time. I mean, I mean, honestly when if you saw issue saadah, right or when when he kill the after the trip a why when I cried, and I was like, oh my goodness. On family vacation. Like, I can't believe this is happening to get. I thought to myself if you sign it is is right. The greatest testing organization in the entire world after failing once in getting a year, you feel twice the obvious suspension is going to be about two years. I'm not going to be here two years. So after know that my career is going to happen be done without this guy. But I was your side to change the game a little bit on this. So it was like, I stay true. Who I am? It just seemed as though. In regards Jobim's, you cited it so. Now, he's back with I add to really come to terms with the fact that after watching certain guys one night told on himself in that to you like literally like did something which either you to get to years thinking months, eighteen months. It was his first time was in his first time. Yeah. First time. He did anything. I think he told on something that eighteen months. John got twice and got fifteen months. You says they are I have to understand that. I will never get another opportunity. So I can't term do you think it will be emotional when you walk away. Do you think you'll miss this? Or did you you do actually think you're ready in your kind of looking forward to walking away. I'm not looking forward to it a missing a lot. I love competing. I mean, I think that's what makes me who I am the competition aspect of it. And I'm gonna miss that. Like, I'm really gonna miss being able to walk there and fight. Here the chairs here the booze because all to go on reactors of are usually the same. If me getting my raise in you cheered in the I'm gonna miss that. But it comes to everybody live my whole life in those situations. Like, I spent more time in high levels fourth, and I spent on this earth without it. Like, I started doing this and a high level at fifteen twenty four years of competition at the highest level. I. Okay. You mentioned the post by press conference that you have some big things in the works. Not just what do you got? Can you tell us can you feel in? Jason jinx it until what I'm. That's a good thing. Go come in. And you said you'll be making more post fighting than you did while being a fighter that's wild this and say it, and I made a lot of money fighting. So I've got some big things coming and do you go about like you're wearing the Gilroy shirt? You're the head coach over there at the Gilroy high school right local high school. Do you? Go back today. You take. We have practice thirty on the track running. They were billing. We got Brexit three thirty a group message today talking about the repercussions of missing. Okay. Coats is not okay. Double champ. Eight time champ is not say, okay. Coach will be there while you don't take any break. Now where I'm calling the kids on Sunday morning about hydration. Like was wrestling they hydration process where you have to wear certain amount in order to wrestle at a certain wake less might team. Greg number ten in the country right now. So but in order for us to be one of the top two teams in the country. Our kids have to be at the ways that they're supposed to wrestle at in Seoul on Thursday. We do our hydration that go high school. So this to get some weight often that's gonna start sock new. It's unbelievable that you're thirty nine. And you know, in your retirement fight is if I told you xactly this time last year that you would have had the year that you had this year, you probably would've called me a liar. You're probably gonna win the fighter of the year and a year ago, this this this time, you're going into that Volkan fight and sort of a shame to the fact you're the light heavyweight champion. Remember, you don't wanna hold the belt and all that this is it's unfathomable. It's unbelievable that this year has been what it's been especially at my age. Right. Thirty nine years old most guys down by mid thirties. You know, obviously, I started a lot later than other guys. But. Either. I. Think about think about this one. I went into this year after getting not going crying to defending light headway time in winning by finish over the number two guy in the world. A guy that was on. It absolute care. What do I do the topic? Okay. From the find the greatest heavyweight of all time knock him out in the first round finish third fight number two guy in the world and heavily invent on tear one nine out of ten and I finished within two rounds. It's like you can't even dream this stuff in for people to saying. Well, I don't you know, it's kinda boring fire like how finish everybody all you want to see a personnel vicious fights. I finished fights the. There's been guys that have had tremendous years. Israel sign you had tremendous year. But the level of competition is just vastly different. I've been in all championship fights. Even Brian Ortega is to pull the upset of max Holloway. How do you compare it? You know, when I won in the finish his belt one another belt defended it all in the same year. I pay being run for fighter of the year in the man think about your boy might even be up for that speed next year at lawyer. Upward s breezy. Right. I'm gonna put in a good word cried in the octagon. Yeah. It'd be SB within a year. That's nuts. It's cool to see all the fighters. Happy for you. But this time in particular felt like I saw Draymond green shouting you out. I saw Kristaps Porzingis shutting you out is there one is there one shot or text or someone does he have to be famous, but someone that reached out that really touched you. This is crazy. Right. So I'm in my my locker. At. There's a guy from Louisiana named Kevin gates. Right. He's saying this local really really low this stuff. He's real big rapper, and they banned Reuss in Reina's on what the goal why would ever just get done? Mike photographer. I am the bay his computerize in this. Kevin gates on FaceTime. Right. But he starts to me. And I'm like things gates, really. Appreciate it. But then he talking game. The white right now, he just kept talking basic thing also talking to Kevin gays, but then we were just talking and talking and talking like gates us. I have to go. Finally, he let me go to call in. In. The call. It was kinda cool that I'm talking to Kevin gates is about to want to be offered on it finally gate. I have to ask my seriously. Do I have to like? What the call me? It was the greatest thing in the world, but drain on green cool guy Greek diet was like it's just a lot more notoriety of later my career. Why does it seem like there's a direct correlation between the amount of time that you win how dominant you're looking and the higher your pants are getting I feel like the pants are getting higher and higher these days. What's going on over there? Fatter trip that women use. We're pull their pants trying to let's live, right? Hey, let's thing man. I do wrestling practice. I all the kids like host point pants hate it like we hate that. Drove away your pants up in tuck yourself to your sweat of guys called down. John Smith is do that. In John's not a fact island John pitches to be on the need is they all. Do. I kinda hate that. Look just kinda will air it. It's so ridiculous data's man on the planet. That's you. But hey, it's not everybody doesn't hate it though. Like the other fighters, especially ones that arrest is like this is like the guy from the gym. He's like unaware that he's Brian pool is pants. And so now on this Monday the hand the back. Okay. You think you're good for March? Everything's to go. I have the punch it much my right hand. I mean, I don't know if I even through a bunch on the feet, maybe like two. But isn't it truly amazing that I'm the small guy the fact that and I just walked these big news down. It's absolute say that they back up. What you think they would just take a stand and say, no, I'm not backing up. Great. We will miss you. When you're gone, my man, we really will. I mean, it's just amazing. What you've done in particular this year, look at those belts. It's unbelievable. I wonder how much that ways right now on you too much. It's incredible. Can you stay up holding them? Can you stand up holding them? Or is that too heavy? Not a lot back to slip out of Garin us little by way. I just wanted the visual. But that's all good. Look at thirty nine years old. You're you're marvel my man, thank you so much. Thank you for always coming on the show before it after an honor as always to watch you live. We'll get it one more time. And I'll have to say that. I'm a little sad about it. All because I feel like you're just getting warmed up. I know you're thirty nine, but I feel like you're actually in your prime. And I know I know that was the question that led to the story about your back, but you are so dominant your thirty nine year killing it. Can you be in your forty? I don't know all prime the Gulf you're going. I hope that I'm as good as as you are at at at forty doing what I do. Go ahead lasting. Yeah. Very easy to get give. Okay. So I want to tell you guys gotta do website seek dot com. I've had it for weeks. It's really said anything about it. I've been buried as for check checking out these see cormier dot com. It's got some t shirts shopping videos. News is also what the very ex-. In a happy about is going to be coming up very soon. It's a the coaches quarter. So you'll get to go and see the technique for resemble Sanchez. Bob Cuckmere Noverre how they're Mendez really crews all my coach is going to give kipps and techniques as to what they're trained to fire that the kickboxer kademi, so good. It's like, it's it's a good website where you can get on my stuff. All my social media will be there. It's Graham Twitter Facebook, everything one stop shop for everything DC. So love hate me. Check me out. Go. Learn from the best coaches in the world congrat- on that. Congrats on the win. And congrats on your saints. What a weekend for you. Holy smokes. Wow. All the state of Louisiana day to LSU to pull it off. If you have the Sates myself and LSU, and you go to one in those under those it's a good weekend for the vote for the thirty third south coast, Louisiana, a it's a great state. I love being from their true. The support that the stated show will be Popeye's chose there. But the state of the Lisi Anna chills, Daniel cormier, or did you have the checking by the way? No, I. Probably got the elevator. Oh, really hungry like that. But but I I have a strange suspicion. You bought the chicken wasn't spicy. I know brother that chicken because a brother bud spicy chicken for you bought the file chicken one. I've still never tried it. I've still never tried. I don't know. What's not you buy the Popeye's chicken and get the Despites you'll be like who? Alice. Like, what bitter salt like ooh that's two season spice. I'm glad you had a and I love what you did covering them up. You gotta stay loyal to your to your team, and they weren't loyal to you. So while done much love. Thank you so much for doing this. Congrats. We'll talk to Sinn. Thank you. Thank you. Join. That's the bit. Thank you, my friend areas. The double champion himself, Daniel Cormet unbelievable. What a performance out of him on Saturday night. What a win for him on Saturday night. And it appears as though will get him one more time that's early March in Las Vegas. Okay. Another big performance on Saturday. Another man who want a performance bonus. We'll be talking to one later on Israel Sonya. But Jared Cananea what a performance out of him taking this fight on two weeks notice in his third way class one eighty five looks like a different person and Dana white told a great story afterwards about being somewhat worried after what happened in the globe to sheriff fight in Brooklyn a couple years ago that David branch would be the wrong kind of opponent firm. Well, that wasn't the case he wins via stoppage. And now all of a sudden we have a new face. We have a new player one eighty five. His name is the killer. Gorilla has named jarred. Kennedy. I do believe he is joining us right now via Skype. Jared. How are you? I'm doing good area. Thank you have me on. And yes, I'm really it's a pleasure where we off to. I'm going to. Okay, congratulate the gym you take the morning off. Now, man. Relatively. So have. Ready for five bucks? Okay. Can I ask you favor? I think the volume is a little too high because we're getting feedback is it possible to lower. You'll you'll still be able to hear hear me. How's that? Yeah. That's better. That's better. Can you hear me? I can't get enough. Okay. Fair enough. Congratulations on the win. How did you transform your body? Like that Jared. I hardly recognized you I remember he was a heavyweight and light heavyweight you look completely different person. What happened? How did you do this? Quit. My job quit. My full time job. Of course, everybody knows that in on a move down to the lab to partake in the more consistent program on top of that, you know, just the dietary adjustments and just bunch of hard work. Why did you feel like you? You were best. I wanted five. Like, this was the smart move. That's a twenty pound cut. Why did you do it? Well, I'm not a natural heavy, even I'm not a big might have either. I'm pretty muscled up. But I'm not, you know, too muscled up like bulking or anything like that. So I had to wait to rose in the wills melting off. And it was only maritime like I said, even the heavy went. I was always saying, you know, middleweights probably gonna be future. And here we are when you accepted the fight on two weeks, notice how much did you weigh initially when you took that when you took that fight. What I accept the fi? I was around two five two three after workouts are probably like two ninety nine to ninety eight. Okay. And I was already in Ryan. How's reading ago, I heard that you ask for the fight you wanted? This is that accurate. Yeah. When I when I signed on from our fight in Argentina, I told them if you know some short notice come out because I wanted to fight early. I wanted to find Sony and I'm glad they listen to a game of the call when when they make the adjustments to the card, and I was ready. I was with more than willing to step up. Dana white said that you know, he thought that he pushed you a little too quickly with the global fight. And he didn't wanna make that same mistake because he said that you arrested today, and he was concerned when this idea was brought up about you fighting branch on short notice. Like, maybe this isn't the right move for your career at this point. Why did you feel like this was a good match? What was it just about? You know, it was just about taking a fight on the matter who 'cause 'cause branches notorious for being that kind of guy who can smother you on the ground. Well, we we try and pretty hard at the lab in my coaches have faith. I have my coaches and in the program that they have there, and I've been learning a lot in the last year. I'm not saying, I'm I'm a expert wrestler anything, but I know how to get off my back or not how you know the submitted in and help down or thin periods of time. So I was good to go. I was ready. I was ready for his wrestling FAM. I'm ready to get taken down. But I'm also ready to get back up. What was your confidence like going into this fight after how the the last two fights went for you? Did you feel like this was a must win? Absolutely m being on to fight scared is not fun. It wasn't something. You know, the top glory. I wanted to pass, but you know. Maybe hunt more fear in the just want to keep this going and take it all away. But did you feel like you had to win this fight to stick around? Well, no, I had two more fights my contract. Yeah. You know? How that goes? They cut you at any time. Yeah. They could. But I'm excited fighter whether whether I win or lose. So what about fighting MSG? Did that mean anything to you? Oh, man. You know, it would mean anything to to everybody it will mean something to every fighter fighting. That's like the pinnacle of sports arenas right there. But when I was there the energy to fight week was awesome in in Manhattan in New York Times square. But when I was in MSG, the energy was even even more profound came to the worst put it in. When I was I was getting ready to walk out. There are some kids standing up there and his pants like pointing at me. I got it was it was like Saint Peter at the parents gates accolades all the great things I've done he was like you're the best yet. This. You can beat anybody just pump me up, man. And I ain't never felt in the NFL the motivation. Like that man. It's like he put a spirit of me. And it was like I wish I wish I knew it was man, right, man. He was probably so much. I took off my my my fight jersey. And I had to give it to my in he earned it just by putting me up like that. Oh, I'm happy. You said that because I kind of made a joke like cannon years. So proud of his physique that I don't usually see we don't usually see someone walk out without the jersey on. But you actually gave it to the kid. That's why you walked out shirtless. Man. That kid was like I said, you know, he was I said it was like Saint Peter. I ain't never seen today. Among like, Saint Peter telling me all the great things I've ever done in my life listening accolades, it was just pumped me up. And it was the best thing. This is the best thing is been spilling the world seeing that little boy he was so into it so publicly right? My is pointing at me that's incredible. Bumps just talking about it right now. How old you think he was he'd hatch been my, you know, nine ten years old damn thing about like he would have been great on. My daughter is on the way out. Not it came at the medicine out. Glad another way. Okay. Wow. Well, if that kids watching well done my man well done if you are watching I would like to sign that shirt for you. Okay. Autograph? That's incredible. Well, done by the way, I noticed afterwards because I've talked to you about this in the past like how you hold the tally. Right. You didn't do that this time? Or did you that? I miss it. No. I didn't do it. How come? Well. I'm not doing Judaism, no more. What happened? Well, you know, my again, my spiritual system has shifted initially shifted from, you know, southern Baptist pitch vanity to Judaism. And now get more into my roots. No, more African spirited systems. And they are definitely more fitting for me. Okay. Wow. When did this happen this happened after a job? So I'm sorry. Moving around right now. Okay. I quit my job, and I moved to Phoenix. So I didn't have a lot of distractions with Workington day trying to train all night and try to, you know, the family man for the rest of my time. So I have a lot of my hands been here about to jam coming hall. Wrestling, relaxing. I have a friend who put me onto a few brothers. Who who teach? We'll take a lot of I won't say African spirituality. But they teach a lot of stuff that we're not that. We're not taught, you know, especially in school or just in our daily lives. They don't out so got into that. Listen to these guys talking about, you know, sacred sciences and geometry and different types of stuff. Wow. You know, just it really. I don't even know how to find the but. But there's so much to is really deep is history to be honest. But that's essentially where my walk is in the last year in okay? I always love seeing you hold a tally. But you know, if you found your your your new calling then much respect you gotta do what's best for you. And you left your job. Of course, we remember used to work in the nation business, right? Yeah. Yes. Working for the FAA FA. That's right. How long were you there for? I was there for nine years men. Was it hard to leave now? Oh, you didn't like it. No. I'm not built for desk job. Right. So now, you got the life on your one hundred percent fighting all the time. That's all you have to worry about. Do you feel like you make enough to support your family? Well, that's why quit my job. Because I got to a point where I was making enough to support my job as long as active fighting. Okay. Now, do you wanna have a quick turnaround? I'm ready again. I was back in game today. I don't have any bumps bruises. I just have to go get checked out, you know, some stuff, but. Whenever we get that stuff cleared talk to my manager talk to the cultures. We'll get some gone. They're fighting here Phoenix and February get on that card. Get on that card now what's up with you? And not Asana. He pees in the cage UP on top of his p what's going on over there. I mean, we we all know how dogs do right? Yeah. For dogs has another dog this right here dollars piss on it and dog disrespect when the other dog. You know, he's just marking his territory like here now. Right. So again that was nothing against Israel. I have all the respect in the world for him. I was watching him when he wanted cage. And and I think that's his cage at this point. But when I go into that, that's that's my guy, and you know, as I was walking in my head yet. He did right there on the corner. And I caught a whiff of it. Now, this is my guy now. So I Mark my territory. Would you like the fight him? What I liked it will be that would be a very fun fight whatever again matchmaking his for the matchmakers. I don't get paid to make matches. So I paid to fight ago. Go back into training and fair for the best whoever, you know, pair for myself. Like I've said before I'm just trying to be better than better than I was yesterday. You wish that you would have gone down to one eighty five sooner. Do you feel like you'd be a lot further along in your career? Had you done this move sooner everything happens for a reason. And I wasn't no rush to get you know, skinny and die be super disciplined. It all happens. It all happened in perfect time. So this is the perfect time. Everybody's happy to see it. So no, I'm not no. Creditor wife. Right. She's the one who did all the cooking. Get you down to one eighty five absolutely mad credits Hershey again, like like, I said she could sit eight so she was being more disciplined for me than I had had to be for myself. So it was a team effort. Congratulations to you and your family, what a performance what a win looking forward to what you're gonna do. Now. One eighty five. Clearly, Dana white is is is on notice as well. He said that he went up to right after the fight. Yeah. He did that must feel. It is he did have a fight like you said he was really excited after that. And even more. So now that he sees I'm learning wrestling part. I don't like to leave holes in my game. You know on the reason why I, you know, I'm not getting wrestling because I didn't grow up wrestling. So everybody else has everybody can have that advantage. But it ain't going to them. It ain't gonna do them. Too much. Good because I'm getting better congrat- Charrette. Thanks for coming on and joy the victory. Thank you very much for having. All right. There is Jared cannon near joining us. What a great win would obey performance from the gorilla in his middleweight debut wins at heavyweight wins at middleweight, of course, the wind just now and then wins at light heavyweight. So I probably did that the wrong way should've done heavyweight light heavyweight mid away. But you get the point you get the point and especially doing it in New York and gets a felon yorker, David branch, who's a tough out a really really tough out while what a win for Daniel. She's me Jared Cananea. Well done and on two weeks notice to boot. Let's just stop at one eighty five. You see those before and after pictures before and after pictures of Cananea at heavyweight, I think is the first one maybe even light heavyweight, but then the middle way looks dramatically different person. It's unbelievable. All right fun. I our in the books matter moments. We're going to be joined by the former heavyweight champion steep coach. I'm very curious to hear what he had to say or has to say about Saturday night. And what's next for him? I had heard that there was talk when they were searching for main event. For a minute there before they went with DC versus Lewis. I had heard that there was some talk of St. pavers Kane. But in the end that did not come to fruition. So when are we gonna see him back? We wanna see him back. Alexia Linic wants to fight him. But I'm sure he wants to fight for the belt as well. DC saying on Saturday night, if the Brooklyn fight doesn't come to fruition. It will probably be St. bay in his retirement fight that I'm assuming will be the best case scenario. For the heavyweight from Ohio the Croat. But I think everyone wants to know when he wants to return against two and what he thought of the whole situation on Saturday at Madison Square Garden. I know he was in New York before the fight. With some of New York's finest, the the F D N Y. And that's always an amazing thing. That's debate does still working as an active firefighter, still supporting the firefighters the first responders says a lot about who he is. After CPA we're going to be joined in studio by Israel out of Sonya back to back weeks. He was on last week prior to the fight against Derek Brunson. An amazing win for him one of the break-up performances on Saturday, but also breakout fighter of the year four no now debuted in February came back in April. Then the main event in July and Madison Square Garden. I mean that is just an absurd year for the last style bender and very rare that we can have someone in studio one week and then the next week pre win post win, and he was actually kind enough. He was supposed to fly out. I think either yesterday or this morning and actually extended his trip so that he could come in studio, and and talk about it all and then after that we'll be joined by Elliott, those ease and then suggest Eubanks we'll stop by to talk about her somewhat controversial win on Saturday. MS Square Garden over Roxanne on ferry. Okay. Without further ado, let's go back to this guy machine and say Hello to the former UC heavyweight champion, the one and only steep amyotrophic is on the show against how are you? It's good to talk to you. And congratulations to you and your family yesterday was a big day for you guys. Right. My daughter's back. Wow. How was that was awesome? Pretty tired day. Yeah. Is that is that like an emotional thing for you? I'm not I'm not bat was at Baptist or Catholic. Chris what does it Catholic? So I don't really know. I've never been to one of those. What is it like? Just bunch of family. Krizan and decide it's a it's a great day. Just you know, Starbucks sacraments. Where are we right now? Are we in your home? Yes. I like this little setup you got you got the two belts. What do you have to over your right shoulder over there? What are those statues? Yeah. Just finding boxing. Okay. And then what's on the other side Fedor the air ward. Yeah. A Ohio boxers association look at you all humble. Yeah. Did you watch the fight on Saturday? On this guy with a bunch crammed followers. You know, good time one hand. I mean, I offered myself. That card and he said now, they told me he was on available weekly. Are you spending Lewis? I mean, was it annoying for you to watch it like, what is going through your mind when you're seeing this. Of course, it was annoying mail scenario. This should be me. Right. There's a ton of guys that never defend about negative rematch. But then I defended the three times favorite do superfine get rematch inning. And it's not like he was beating. Finally, I was winning fighting just congress shot, man. I really feel today. We're not talking about the IFO either by stop. I get shot. Right. Did you ever get an explanation as to why the you have seen ever tried to make that fight? Now, you've heard I'm I'm sure him talk about it saying look steep too good right to fight on three weeks. Notice. You take that as a kind of compliment or is that not good enough? Now, it's not gonna you think I was in great, right? But you've done it. Are sent I wanna go. That's my belt. So what do you do? Now. Rematch. So they're openly talking about Brock. He's talking about the retirement fight. Are you worried? No care racks, doing something in Saudi Arabia. I mean, it isn't find two and half years. He he wanted to cider. I mean, these arriving if they pass you up for Brock, and you get passed up again what how do you react to that? We will find out. Okay. Clearly, you're not happy. No. Would you be? No. I mean, I put myself in your shoes. But I understand a hundred percent where you're coming from. We might be doing the same thing. They want the rematch. I mean these same way for the roles reversed. I was not. Yeah. Did they try to do versus Kane Velazquez for a minute on that card? Maybe maybe our remember, okay? D C N, even if they did like what's that? Sorry. I want my rematch -ment about back. And even if they were doing like interim belt or anything like that. Not good enough. I wanted to see what happens if he retired before you get your hands on them. I mean, he's not going to be on the first round. So again, so confident. Yeah. Do you would that be something that would bother you for the rest of your career? If you don't get another crack at him, if he leaves before you fight again, he was willing. What could you do? So I mean, we're if he if he actually fights again in March, and they don't give you could be out for a very long time. Are you prepared for that? See I just put my chair down all the way. I don't know. If you saw this interview, I'm very barest right now. See Pam sorry to embarrass for you. To be honest. I'm a little timid data right now, you're really pissed off. Yeah. Man. I mean, I mean, I well with the New York on fans, right? Did why don't you find tonight? I everybody even the US, Cowan tears even the media. They're like, why don't you tonight? Answer. Yeah. Why did you go to New York? Appearance. Okay. Was it weird to be there? So close to to you know, the venue and all that knowing that you should be. Restore some jump in you know, fight, but apparently didn't happen. So I went back home. You didn't go to the actual fight. Now, but you did watch I came after him on Sunday. So I don't wanna like sure be late Sunday right again Trump. That'd be a bad luck. I'm actually surprised that you watch the fight knowing how upset you were about all this. With Chris wideman, the my boy. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Have you talked to them? How is he doing? I know I kind of like try by people have gone to the head as it is arguing weaker saw in about. Okay. Were you impressed with performance? Jury as he warned different just. Not really, no, okay. Even though it was that dominant. Just took him now. Yeah. Did you think Derek had a chance? Where everyone has a chance in DC chance needs. Yeah. Nobody going into the fight. Did you think that oh when he fought? Yes. But did you think that Derek had a chance going into the fight? Or did you think that this was fairly one sided? No. I mean, it's. There's a big hits high as may use of any came back. Do you think that if you had a different kind of relationship with you see you have gone in that shot like you feel like all the drama of the past? Couple of years is coming back to haunt you. Probably I don't really care. They do. They want. Flavor. The week is that's how the kid right? But then it so in this case, it's not like another sport. Where you you kinda like earn your shot here you have to almost be granted the title shot. And sometimes when you better relationship, there's a better chance of that happening, right? Ron stand trial. Cram is this kind of ruining your love for the game. Merrill, would I do? So I it's fans fans 'cause if it wasn't for the fans wouldn't be right now. Right. But the like this politics have you tried to campaign for tasha? It's probably not something that you wanna do. No. I mean, I don't mind because like this they want we're gonna get. Okay. So what does the game plan? How do you get the fight? Keep talking I should pay. I deserve. Brooke record you're talking. Maybe I really don't off to give multiple times more more ever defended. See and those. Come on. Now guys entering defended about after they wanna match, right? What do you think about Brock? And you saw is there is there a chance because even DC said best friend. What do you mean? Got up. I mean, I I don't I. I guy at the two and a half years. Right. I mean. I just. My. Irritates more because. We have always finds that. We're recording. Pain hard just tuna. Title shot. Yeah. That's the weirdest part about it that he's getting a shot after all of that. And there's there's no real justification for it. It's not like he's he's earned in. Now. Here you are in this position. So I can understand your frustration. There's no doubt about that. You think that having like a sit down with the UFC would would help you in terms of getting your point across. That's something that's on the table that before and it's never worked. They wanna do. So they want. Okay. And just curious what are you planning on doing? If they do. In fact, go with Brock. Find out. Until you everything you do have a plan. Man. I'm a little bit scared right now. I'm not gonna lie. Are you like really really mad, right? New York and in. Yes, I don't I do not want that. But it's like you're not the kind of look like scowling the whole time. I mean, it's just it's just I feel every day. I should've been fighting. Actually gonna shot. Now, I'm not gonna. I just they just is. You work your butt off your. I mean, I made been doing. I needed to get. Did somebody knows dining gal fish? Yeah. And then you hear things probably like Connor is gonna get an immediate rematch and all this stuff. I mean, what's up? Man, it just. Blackout. What's real? Just. Were you worried that this would happen? If you've ever lost the belt considering the relationship with the. See? No exact dot at. After like you off. Rematch. Right. Putting my contract. The of it. But. You know for China is about July was my night. Do you have a message for Daniel? Yeah. Fighting you do. Fray when I was. No credible any carbon going. By licey. You know, you're not again. All right. And what about for the U of C? Give me my rematch. Or seriously? Either. I just start taking steroids. Back. We all right. Yeah. Iran's was. Is there a chance that you have fought your last fight in the AFC? No, our said that don't oh, I'm asking I'm asking. I'm just wondering. I mean, we saw trades. We saw DJ just get traded, right? For that shit. Okay. Okay. I just didn't know how frustrated that right? Okay. Fair enough. Well, I appreciate you coming on and voicing your your opinions and displeasure about everything. And I do hope it works out for you. Workout. It was. All right. Thank you. Steve bay. Good luck to you. Banks fix chair. Okay. Thanks fix right now ups there, it is sepia meal. There. He is. I was mad a few words. But in this particular case, I don't think he's happy. That's just my impression of the whole situation. He seems very upset. And I understand where he's coming from it doesn't appear as though the odds are in his favor on this one. This is going to be interesting. Oh, my. Winning his champion in in in UFC heavyweight history. The fended the title successfully more than anyone certainly has a strong case. Is he the front runner now to get that title shot? No. That's the sport prize fighting. It's not America Crecy. It's the fight business. They said on Saturday that you have to twenty nine was the second most success. No, not to twenty nine to thirty was the second most successful, pay per view. And in large part because of this man, Israel out of my man. How are you in the house? What's up my man? They engage family. Oh, everyone's here Israel. How are you? I was expecting to come in this fast. Didn't give me a heads up. But look at you. You're quick, man. You're making the rounds today. You're in my former home, I knew you're just everywhere. Look, I think is the right guy to replace. Oh, yeah. Big shoes to fill. But I think he's big enough. He's a large man, quite literally. Right. Yeah. Well, thank you for doing this supposing. You were supposed to fly out win yesterday today Sunday, and you changed for me for everyone. Thanks, man. Thank you. Thank you. Can you come a little closer to the microphone chick chick mic? Check one two. Is that is that comfortable? Okay, easy. Thank you for doing this. This is only been done once before what twice twice back to back weeks in studio back to bed. Yes. The six God, John Kavanagh? Did it you have see two five or country Eddie, but never a fighter. So this means a lot especially one who has to fly. Now. We're going back to New Zealand. Yeah. Wow. How long is that live and a half hours? But you know, I talked to Dennis via comfortable in the flight. Now Cal is just about to ask you that. I made sure business class, right? I'm the merchant after us, man. What on the way here where we, you know? You know, coach coach you coach yet out of your window C. I'll got that thing where your leg vise. It's like horrible, right? But yes, so now like I like to be comfortable I like on it so much easier because you have to get up stretch because I tall guys. Well, you have to like all that while you fly. So Mick did it for me a couple of times when I. Business class same thing. So I felt comfortable you can just lie down stress free. And it's good for the athletes. You know? So of course, my worth nothing. Now, you know, we'll talk about it. That's besides the point. I'll talk to them. Okay. And what about the hotel? What happens to the hotel you happy from the downgrade from last time does where we last time in in Vegas GM. Yeah. In the bigs, we literally just a little bit bigger than this room. Okay. And then right adjacent or next to it was my coaches, and like we had a conjoining like it was easy. So I could just leave it open close anytime I want, and it was big hotel living room and the shower with my favorite bit just 'cause it was just. Huge. Yeah. So you can just like yawn thing. Yeah. And this time it was I it was nice tonight. I same regular. But I'm I'm that Bucci. I like the black BI. I'm chilling. I'm alright, I I'm I just I really really pride myself in my shower time. That's my alone time when I after a fight. That's my time. When I get to be alone thoughts. Okay. Yeah. 'cause I got shower, man. Yeah. Nobody like what do you do in there? Like, you meditate in my own way. Like last time and the GM after the fight after all my friends, you know, we had a little party in my room, nor really like chilling hanging out music. And then. Yeah afterwards when they left I remember I just put on some rap. You knows a little stoned. And then just sat there and just meditated stone like smoking. Oh, yeah. My wanna? Yeah. Is that your thing? Yeah. Par- partially everything alcohol marijuana just depends some of them who. Okay. Some of them. Yeah. Like, they use put the some of them. All there's a lot of things coming your way now here that. Yeah. Yes. Yes. They come in through it. When it goes to like, my baby system our brothers. All my son is here. Yeah. They're telling people that they haven't talked for years coming out just trying to latch woodwork. Like, hey, this is weird. I haven't just put a post like two minutes ago. Check my story real quick. Okay. Like, yeah. Friend of mine is kind of said she saw it as well. So it was weird. I've seen all the link. So I'm really clued up. I've been looking at this for a long time. So I know okay. They come and this time also the last after Vegas, I was geared up. 'cause sometimes you need to brace for impact. You don't really? Like after my debut was like, okay. I wasn't ready for that one. After the. Which hold out Arizona fight. I wasn't ready for that impact. Yeah. So this after July Kate brace for impact, boom. A handle that. Excuse me. Thank you, sir. Yeah. And this time again, I just knew it's going to be even worse. So I was just get ready here. They come and what is it been like less couple days or less than two? Oh, really? I don't put it on vibrate oil ringing spin. So 'cause that busy it is. Then. Anyone anyone that you saw like, oh, man. This is cool. This person reached out to me show me love a few. I don't wanna name. Oh, yeah. Namedrop here. Celebrities like, so we're probably my favorite artist. Really? Yeah. Like what? Yeah. Music. Also, we'll talk about that later. Drake put on what's his name was talking about Charlemagne. He posted your video you re posted a talking about his book. Oh, yeah. So this morning. He did. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's on his Instagram. So yeah this morning. I was I knew for reason. It's weird how life works like I couldn't sleep all just chilling always plotting do my thing. And then four minutes I saw like he he's tagging posted the video of me talking about his book and talking about their and whatnot. Because that's what his book is about. And then I kinda just like should him giving him back and then. Yeah. A little divall while the guy walked out to yes track. Yeah. Plug me up. So which is good for my from my. Say my entry into black America. If you will like he's the he's the guy right now. His track is the hot mic the head of the summer. So yeah, I mean, they plug me up. I'm I'm introducing them to a new audience as well. So it's kind of like a back and forth thing, and I say, he's not going back and forth. But as his back and forth. Yeah, I feel like it's hard to relate with you. Based on what you do in the cage. Like, I can't even fathom doing the things. But I think based on what I saw you talking about your time as a as a school student is student school dyslexia. And all that stuff. I saw a lot of people say like, wow, I go through the same thing. And I saw some people say, oh, I know what it's like in Nigeria teacher dump. I mean, you hear from a lot of people. I didn't know about that too much. I had looking a little bit comments. But not really too much about that. But yeah, it's it's it's crazy over there. Like when I remember when I first came to New Zealand, and I was in. I was like ten years old and no by twelve on. Eleven and form one. And then this kid was using his walkman and class. The teacher was like they must Tony Tony put that away like to miss. And I remember the look at my face life. Because normally oh, you get caned. Yeah. I'm from legit head down. Sure in front of the class, ten lashes, Dan. So he can't do. So I was like you can talk to the teacher like that. It's crazy. So it was a culture shock for me in that point. But then yeah, I mean, I was raised different. And I don't know for me. It's yeah. Different culture. Yeah. I wanna start with always sort of started here. But that felt like the pre interview you leave here, and I was so jealous. We mean check courtside Knicks game a real my beloved may ever team. Travertine minute t leave. Here you go with the jacket. What was that? They know. It was incredible that Jackie dead. What hap- is dead. Is that what does that mean? No, more good. Not like, I mean, it's what it is. It's it's just amazing beautiful. What was it like sitting courtside at MSU before you're about the fight there? But you're seeing the NBA players that you told me you were going. I didn't realize you were sitting that close. I didn't know either, bro. So we got we got there. Right. And there's me and my wrestling coach take us like the VIP room. Yeah. And there's like all these movie stars. And there was a guy Christian from thirteen reasons why I started watching down-home trust me. I told him I'm gonna 'cause I've heard so much about it from last year her it was controversial, Jerry. All right. It's almost better black mirror. Okay. I probably watch it. Then I'll watch it. So. Yeah. He would he reached out a fan? Realize navarro? Yes, I'm I'm gonna start watching that. 'cause I I love Netflix and chill. So I've got on your house. So I'm good. I'm new house now to definite. Oh, look at you. What? While I was in camp. So I had to like just I wanna get to sidetrack. So I kind of go everything my parents, my parents really helped me for that one organizing furniture. I went to them with them to buy everything. But there we looked after me with and she was happy to do it. Anyway, by all the furniture and all this organizing, the curtains draped security all that I have to focus on campus fulltime. But I'm yeah, he he reached he's cool. I like the guy, and we're talking about you into the Knicks games gang peas Bros. Oh where we saw him. Like all these movie. Like superstars you see on TV and whatnot and me. And my wrestling coaches, giggling on dre giggling, the whole time, and if you could look and be like these guys don't belong here. And we I couldn't eat too much. And I kind of had this little like a little taste of this. Fish best fish. I've ever had man. What kind of was just had the softness? Moist candy flavor around it broke away from the just self. It was beautiful and then courtside will right there set next to Britney supermodel from here. She made friends with them. They're cool. Yeah. I know. And it was just it was a good time. And it was good to be in the atmosphere and the energy of the place on feel it because you so how walked out? Yeah. I don't even know. I was going do that. Like, I swear I caught the Holy Ghost because I thought okay. Normally when I walk out. I'm not like everyone knows. I don't know why these guys like walkout something like, oh, hey, guys. Thank you. Thank you. What about you? Go back to this. I heard it wasn't Ariana. When my guy was right there. This is one. I like I realized this opponent was right there. He was what two walkout? He didn't. And the curtains closed. Whoever was yelling from the stands like going Marvin get this. Get jeez, come on knock him out. But he goes out. And I go next the same. Exact listen said the same exact to me. And I remember just like these new about me. So whenever I walk. I just I'm focused on my business. It's happening around me. So after the fight when I sparked the place up, then I feel it. So yeah, when I was in there, I walked out to divorce smile. Always just thought I'm just gonna focus on me. But then just groovy, you know, my shoulder started working started enjoy myself when I get comfortable because I've already been in mischievous already felt that atmosphere already made that same walk when I walked to the Senate of the court. So it was just another day in the office. And I remember I walked in there. He walked in like, I look back at the fight nine. I saw the way he walked in. He was just t- Newell's happening. He knew he was walking to the slaughterhouse. He knew he was about to get got you could feel it, dude. Like, even as soon as you ran past me, he jumped into the cage sloppiest, and I watched on the on the when he stepped up on the cage by normally in his other fights would be like, whatever he's like like he's gonna see. Like, he's out, you know. But you think you're in his head about real estate all over the place. You knew that a long time ago. You had also what I like to do is watch the like your interview with them that you interview after the fight. I just see the demeanor and I- validates what already knew he was shook. He was shook one he saying all the right things. That thing's supposed to say, I'm all hype. What else did he say to you? He see laughed at my prediction. And this is up being salty, by the way, 'cause guests me if he won our near the end of this. I can feel it most guys like Brad. If you want it would have been good fight, whatever that's it done. And I one good fight. That was it done. I paid them respects. Well, this guy. It was different. I I didn't like his approach. Yeah. I didn't like his approach to what he was. He was a boy he came at me in different. Why didn't like the way he was trying to remind me of bullying like kind of triggered me a little bit. So I became the bully became what I hate. I don't believe. So. Yeah. I yeah. I I I still bump this fist. I looked at him. Not said, look, I know you're all this is all talk before the game and whatnot. Good fight looked at me. Reluctantly and just you can see it, right? When herb was holding hands. And he's boy, you can tell you salty about it. And I'm Saul bass. Oh, whatever. And then I would imagine when he grabs onto your shorts. A couple times. Oh, you know, what I hate his pretend afterwards initially. He did it the first time, and I thought okay herb dean didn't see that. And I talked to her about three say sought, but. It didn't really he didn't get any advantage of it. So as whatever, but then the second time he did it on the he use it to keep me on the fence blatantly. If it was just one of those board shorts. He might have got away with it. Also shot to sauna gym who doesn't on the regular me. So I'm used to grabbing the gloves on no like people are gonna try and get away with it. So they mimic it and sometimes in the gym, Dan mimics in the gym just to kinda like 'cause people are gonna try and get away with it and get a warning. And you see him as soon as herb was like stop stop. And I was pissed off in the Byrd. He's like. And you see the look on his face. He looked on sell. It was about to cry like only did it once. I'm like you want you did he will shook he knew he was about to get so, yeah, he was trying desperately clutching at straws where you want my shorts. Saw. I just had to do what I had to do. Did you enjoy the final moments of that fight where he's like all wobble? Like it was out there. Yeah. I didn't enjoy any short. I don't think I missed one single strike who else when you watch someone hurt someone like that. And then the you have him do an everyone else you see how they go at them. Yeah. Who else do you see just patiently waits like after walking through a sequence? And my wrestling coach, Andre new all we did every we even drilled it before we left the hotel room. Bumping let's go let's can go. And then. We knew I'm left side. He's going to try and use keep me on the fan and use a shot. So I couldn't grab the risks. And just audible. Goodbye set controls. All right, cool, boom, secure that I had that on luck. And at the end sequence remember double on the hooks. And then I broke it boom. And then as I try to escape, and so sometimes you either thorough left like his pal slide, or he'll shoot this way to cut you off. And he's got a lot of people with it under as to Goodman. He's already lie. And also his shot was way too slow because was his name on dre Paulette Romanian. All right. Let's talk about him a few times. He's my man, that's my guy and he liked with him. He understands he understands how I'd like to be and we get each other. But he like he told me he's gonna shoot this way and try and cut me off. And as soon as he tried it you watch the tape you try to I escaped and got away. Even those the stuff of the fans Andre told me what exactly what is going to do exactly the same pathways. And that he rushed in because he all he's hurt or mobile. He can still up time the knee, and my my coach gave me props. Yes. She give me props. Rare upset like when I need him. I went straight to the undertook to defend the take down. But he was ready hurt. And from that point he was wobbly. And so I went on our south y thing hook uppercut and left knee, then drop them, and I was going to follow up like a lot of guys. Just did dumb. Does get excited and come to fast. They jumping on them and blow the load mustard back back up. He smiled at me. And I was like, oh, okay. Cool went back back to orthodox. And I looked at him question-mark kick hit him with a two piece boom drop them again. Then I framed, and there's a little bit of a sequence just trying to find him touching him touching them touching them. Eventually. I just pop he dropped again found the other one. South park. And I do like a little lazy whip all everything was like forty fifty percent credible. All these guys they blow the load because they can go and one hundred percent trying to like finish the fight like the hoping. I don't have to hope. I know if I touched the fall and people all early other bit early Stuttle who said that stupid people a lot of them. But he was honesty. He was done. He was already on wobbly legs for about a minute and a half. He was like all maybe about. I don't know how long I had left out about thirty seconds left and a five, but he wasn't wobbly legs from that. First thing the first the first time, I dropped them. So yeah, he was done. And I remember I like the was satisfactory looked at when I was like, I was I've had it's fine. Because I said he was a bully. I became the belief is the hype stuff like are we not going to hear that anymore here? It really say when I when I win the Bill they're going to beat five times, though, keep saying it is going to be someone at the end of the day. It doesn't matter. How they see you somewhere. Let's come up with a new narrative going into your mind. I am the hype train run them all over. Yeah. Can I Jake? We have is celebration. I wanna ask you about the celebration. Just as breakdown for you. That was just as impressive in my opinion. It's going to come up here. So who is like a little dash training Niger right now. So last time I spoke in my native tongue this time. I spoke with body language Shaq Shaq hit it with them. What does this tell me tell me and then with guate- guate- that's from South Africa? Dan. That's a Crump callup and enjoy myself. I don't know like this is body language. Those who no, no. So replay it again. Yeah. J J come on time did on a loot j I like that. So I just enjoy shopping shocking for them. So people know that and they hit them with the guate- guava. Crump gallup. Oh my God. How I'm sitting at the end lapook. Because that's culture. You know, what you're saying? But it sounds amazing. Not. But like, I mean, those who know no that that's just I I don't really have to cater to my own crowd, Cheryl. If you if you don't take a Heiko pick a number sitting line on different television that you did the last time last time ever what did I do last time breadth of ours? I just walked around hands up. I wasn't guest. You never done something like this. Or maybe it was two fights ago or is the debut nothing. The last time was on was on heck's. Yeah. Hex f c I hit him with another old Transi. Everyone's with Nigerian culture right in all the Niger and artists whiz. Kid, vito. What's his name? Can't remember keep people on you? This is this right here. My weaves note what is like ninja arts ninja techniques from enemy Coronado. So it's like ninja magic. I'm ninja. When I'm in there. I'm not do that again J come on. My slot. Some of the most on my back the dragging on my back with the scroll blood scroll down hit, my my my hands signs credits. And then boom in the bee's comes out Kunda kinky at the dragon on my back. I gotta finish them wanna get back. Oh us. Rod Dawson is going to finish it up and get up Brooklyn native, broken native. I'm the I'm the government or the Batman's doves. You know, I'm the the pebble among stones, you know, the the village idiot, but they don't realize. Yeah. He's different. I'm the one that they is that guy. He's a, but then look at me now he's crazy on air. Yes. Oh, so the back one is that again. Let's go come on ninja off with you. Let's grow that my weaves as someone animate this, please like make it for real. 'cause I know someone. What's his name? There's a black print from New Zealand black print FX another guy. I know the Instagram picture by the name escapes me. There's another one as well. They do all this animates. They'll they'll plug a bitter those who know they can see what's happening. Yeah. Understand that. If you don't know it just with the folks just doing I feel like you've watched all this like a million times and Saturday. Yes. Over some guy tried to say, oh, well, your hand signs was weak. That's something through week, but the finish made up for it. Oh god. Locked. That how dare you saw my ninja technique play that one more time. One more. Syria is wrong with you. Oh my God. That's that's you don't understand. This is I'm sweating. I'm geeking out right now. I love it. A proud of yourself very that. I'm proud of that moment. Right. Just this. Yeah. Wear to means more to me than the actual fight was cool. I made some money. But this was my weaves out there they understand now. You may you have new contract you got the bonus. Right. But that's like we need to rip up that contract. Now that contract this. Doc is way up now. I know the Wall Street check Wall Street. Yeah. A check Wall Street all the way up next would be. Let's get the Bill on a C. Like, okay. So array I haven't heard he said he's beat there twice. I understand. That's his case. And you know, shocker I which Acharya I don't have any beef toward them. I'll fight them later on. But. He's been beaten by Kelvin and Robert my case against that. So I count I count argue that with that. But come on. Let's see what happens with them rubber and its name Kelvin Kelvin gasoline. Let's see what happens with them. If Robert wins, the only fight to make the pathways clear, I've already made my case at the post fight Wayne's a post fight press conference. I don't wanna go through it. Again, what the pathways clear if you really wanna make some money if you really wanna make noise. I'm the guy I'm gonna fight these guys. Anyway, let me just fight them with the belt. I'm gonna fight all of them. Anyway, when it's all said and done I said my goal to build it's a fancy tiara boy after pick it up along the way like a little like a little trinket. I'm gonna fight all these guys along the way was all said they're going to say who's the best of all time. Who's a guy that didn't duck? Anyone he didn't pull out, you know, he didn't like a lot of guys around play this like, oh, which of these older, I'll fight everyone. I wanna fight drop in on a fight everyone and hitting duck. And he's the best. He didn't. You know what I mean? Like, I wanna be that guy. So yeah, I'm just getting fifty cents as get the strap strap season next week next year Dana said at the press conference, he has your opponent in mind unless it is. We'll see what he says he tell you. I wouldn't talk about that. But was afterwards though. Right. Yeah. We'll just talk. He'd gave me. Some some good words say about you know, a kid Monday morning. Your life's going to change blow and all you gave me. Some good words. Let me know kind of stuff what he says like on the ultimate fighter. Like generic stuff? What kinda he has to let you know, you have to hear from the horse's mouth and things already know what's good to hear it again. And be reminded of it keeps me I thought he was going to say Monday morning. You gotta go on aerial show. That's my guy. Guy favorite has favorite told me that. Yeah. But yeah, he. Yeah. You gave some good words, and then I just appreciated it. And then he said, yeah. Good luck. And I we he's gonna be in Australia's. Well, I think for the plug in for the Adelaide fighting. Okay. Voting his work. So Peter is going to work him out there. He and what's Arabella? They're gonna put him through the meat grinder. But but he didn't say, okay. This is what I have in mind. He'll talk to my manager. I mean, okay. I'm not that dumb. Yeah. Even when I met him in the club after the what you call it two through six. I talked to him. This is when we shook Dana, then it was an accident. I tell you. That's no, okay. So I went to go get some more money from the cash machine in the security guard. We're talking of blah, and then he takes me to the the wrong room. I see McMahon. And I'm like, you don't hear talked to make he's like entre to Dana as the first time, I met him life. Wow. And then we start yawning, and we talked about what we're gonna do. And he says he likes when I'm doing all this and yeah after. And after that, I talked I was a little bit drunk by not even drunk tipsy from about me. And also, my boy, Dan, Hooker smoke this. So yeah afterwards. It was like all right cool. I'll let off Al comeback. Of course, not. I'm not gonna let my walls down because it's like this. I mean, this is business. I wanna be friends with them. Right. Cool. Like, Mick as my guy. Mc heavy Mick is. So he's good energy. I love Maynard. Yeah. He's the man honestly, man. And he's he's been so like working with him. He and my management team working with like together. It's just me so beautiful. There's no. And he knows what's up. He's not like a guy at least some promoted to pay you. Of course, they'll pay you, the, you know, the the least they can pay you won't try and get the most of what you can. But I think they know what's happening to see what is in front of them. They realize that finally recognize what's happening. So yeah, I I'm not gonna like more money up by a lot of guys. Make that mistake, you know, hanging around and with buddy buddy now. Like, the F F. And there's no it's not like saying, we're not friends we can be friendlier friends. But at the end of the day of being promoted in the past by my business deals in the past. And I've met a lot of mistakes. And I have to say what made a lot of mistakes. And those are one of them's person the wrong people. So yeah, I'm a love the relationship. We have with the USC right in our religion. We have Dana with Mick. And especially Mickey so cool. But it just goes black belt as well. Why do I feel if they're going to do versus Anderson or wanted to reception was the point? I don't I don't really wanna see that. Can I be honest real? I don't young too quick. Why really wanna kill that guy off? No. That's the guy told you don't get me wrong. Just because I'm a fan. Doesn't mean cash. These hands. But there's no need. I mean, like I say you have seen ninety I some live do some magic. And I was like, oh, this is this guy. He's a looked up to I still look up to him. I think is the best middleweight of all time. And what to run over what he did. Okay. So that pizza coming up. What is it the sign? It was. Was breakfast hotdog for breakfast do Maimon. I'm living the life. Now. My best live off the street. Yeah. Jeeze New York. I'm went Tim's me. Where did you guys? Celebrate just some Irish bar around the hotel. That's it. Yeah. They'll clubs nothing marquee nothing. I don't see you don't do that. They got me twisted. They think they know me they think they have figured out. They think the way I dress the way I talk the where at all. He's another one of those ones on my God. Okay. We've seen this guy before. Is more than meets the eye. What? Okay. And. Okay. So you got. So you got the meeting with Dana. Dana is glowing. I saw him going glazing talking about his new toy, you know. He's like so happy cash cow. Yeah. Yeah. He loves it. What's his name things Budapest? He made this this name. He he's he's made this mean put on his page symbol one. Yeah. Right up. How much you're gonna wanna do something with that some light? Yeah. The funny. One is great. It's Dana as whoever that character. In The Lion King Simba chosen one. That's funny. It's unbelievable. John jones. He was here. Have you ever seen me and Georgia's in the same room? No. That's why I wanted to know. It's unbelievable. You're like a young Jones your face. Oh, I'm not saying like, maybe I have a beard on and I just walk around. You didn't wanna meet a not not that? I I like the guy. He's cool. I saw him first time. I saw him fight live was you f c ninety four on Saint year versus pin? You look like him back in the face. He looked like me, I say that he. Yeah. He up. Stephan Boerner with like some crazy like him. I saw him like as one point. He had over hooks in a soup likes the and then he was just like ragged on them in the spinning elbow drop them. And he was so cool. Still is he's he's another great and same thing. Like, I said when he jumped on the scene who am I good? It's Anderson two point. Oh, what wrestling he outgrew those comparisons? Now, I'm the hot chick in the bar. Oh my God. He's this and that, blah, blah, blah. Eventually I'm gonna grow those comparisons as well. But John Jones cool. Yeah. I've met him. I just think if we meet maybe the world might explode because off. Okay. I'm gonna get ahead of the game. Because I had someone took a picture of me and Alexander Goss in backstage, and I know for a fact coming. I that's going to be funny. I someone just swim. I think would dapper scrappers, man. Yeah. You know, everything. Unbelievable. I get my air man here. Unbelievable, everywhere up obscure things. Dummy. Joe jitsu? I like the fact he and I think Chris is John Millington Christopher. Yeah. Equal. They started that that whole movement, and that's cool kind of bringing fashion to the UFC do New York fashion week just once I used to fashion week where they can afford me anymore. So they didn't get me. I think this year they tried to. But then like, nah, the stock is going up. So you can't. Yeah. Said yeah. So next year, I'm gonna do New York fashion week for sure I wanna do once. I'm not going to be one of these guys on the model now that I'm not going to sponsors. We got here. We're talking we got tray. Bar. None number one. Fuck everybody else. I because they stuck by me win everyone else said, no. And I said after my post, I was supposed to say you pay me, a reverse it because you're not the famous line paying a remixed it. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I don't wanna be that guy. Like because I heard, you know, Luca paid mad money full. Ralph Lauren he doesn't need to fight anymore. Wasn't one to you. Can. I mean, whatever. But I love fighting. You know, I love this game. I love learning. And if if I didn't have the gym if I have Eugene if I didn't have city kickboxing team on what I'd be doing. I'm I'll be I'll be doing something else. This is way more fun. You know? And I just I feel like I'm what better way to make a Mark in history stat my name is one of the greats. I knew this can I can I ask I don't quite understand your undefeated fourteen fifteen and what is it now? Fifteen fifteen your last kickboxing fights where a loss right back to back. Yeah. What's the difference? Why are you doing so? Well, now, and you were on like, I can't even fathom losing to enroll Emma? What's the difference? What happened was my kickboxing installers is not suited for the star. They wanted the gloves different. And they score based on some don't sometimes you know, like Mona four for the world title. I won that fight. You could see me around five can repose. Our our that on my story. You see me around five just couldn't be touched Roy Jones. Like I was just in zone. Can this guy up? All these just like this job on eating shorts and walking forward throwing some legs, legs suppose. Slow you down. Moving eating slow me down all but he was moving forward and let kicks pro. And then I mean, what is one of the contents remembers name now? About the Leaney was talking to him. He was very very biased because I mean, he had to stop fighting because he had some concussions or whatever, I know. But I mean, that's because his style of fighting. I don't get concussed because I fight smart. So people this is art. So, you know, you whatever it's subjective. Whatever you you appeals to you. You look at your favorite, you know, and it's happening boxing different styles. So the commentary was very very biased, and they don't understand what I'm doing. And this is the ring was told you small than this. So I beat the system is able to avoid he hit me probably hard like twice the whole fight the mobile knees who's the opponent for this one. You don't want to say, I can't I know isn't Herrera. Will. The one that brought out was it. Did you know that today? He brought him for his camp. Yeah. He show. Yeah. You know that how did I help him? Not not very well. Yeah. I'm different. I don't fight those fight like dumb. I'm I'm I'm smarter than them. You know, my team is smarter than them beat them. And then even the fight. He knew it he knew he lost. And then when his hand raise he was really surprised, and then I remember to what he save pipe, whatever, I'm the champion, baby. Got here and then forever as well. Same thing. He's another mother who's going to be telling his grandkids, I fought, and I him you see he posts a picture view. I don't check like every fight. I'm gonna tell you. They going to be watching me. I'll never in my life watch any of his fights ever. You know, why winning the war? He won the battle. Sure. You wanna battle? I'm winning the war understand is level sedition. And if he comes about trust me, the I was in China. Very very biased in that one as well. I I beat them their bias. And that's why when he beat me it was based on my slip up, you know, based on me I up in the second round. And I should I should have got him out of there. I did what everyone else does you know, why from the wellness fight. 'cause I started listening to people listened like well, don't leave it in the head of the judges and people I know from back home was on Zealand so stupid on his like people who I respect. Well, that's what happens when you leave it in the hands of the judges on my think, I was trying to leave it in the hand of the judges. So let that that was back into sixteen. I let some of that sip in let some of that sip in and I regret that now because. Yeah, in that fight when I heard him the second round if I just don't what I did to Bronson which is just take my time. Stay pretty Ammon shoot out to go to matter there. But I try to rush him. And I'll just all I was doing right hands. I look I don't cringe about the knockout that. Yeah. And what I'm fine I'm alive. I'm anyway. But I was. Was so cringe because all that was right hands at his face. I didn't go to the body. I didn't go to the legs. I might as well. Just don't miss like just. So cringe, and that's not my art. That's not my style. I would just like me drawing. And just like, that's what it is that that's not me. So that's what makes me cringe the artistry was and then. Yeah. So he here go he got me. Good job. Come if p hold up like a fake UFC contract saying he's gonna get signed cool work your way up. I'm sitting pretty where I'm at you know, he's way way down below in the dirt. You know? How to is? You're gonna get to me if he manages to I'll spot kick him back down there. Wow. Okay. Is Floyd gonna ask you to help them? He's fighting you hear about this law against ten and in Reisen you hear about this. What do you think that is you think it's going to be kickboxing match? No. Oh, man my life. I just don't know. Well floor is being he's the greatest box of all time. We know who's fighting right Kantian yell. With venus. Yeah. What do you think they're gonna let him kick? No. Exactly, he's he's he said when it was on the may where the pre may MAC, presto. Yeah. I'll do when when Karna call them out like you wouldn't dare step in my world. So yeah, I'll do 'em. May I said on the James Toney some Hornets? Yeah. Harness came in. He said man, I remember when when asked him how do you feel about these man if I hit with this? I'm going to Jill think that was your one eighteen if I'm a mistake. You're right. And versus Edgar too damn look at you. I think so often. No, no. You're one hundred right? Yeah. Yeah. So I think yeah, he is I'm going to jail, and he went in there granite up Rennick tour ankle picked him real quick like a turtle off his back. But at least he tried a mother gangster. Do you think his boxing history or his boxing record matters because he filled in 'em may know, James, Toney humane. I'm just borrow if you wanna be the set in my post-flight, if you want to be the best fighter in your heart. You know, what's up? My ego would never let me live if I just. Kickboxing and be the greatest gas credits. Kim FOX what time I'm slipping. Hey talk. You're you are human after all facts. Yeah. I've lied. I cry. If I could have been the greatest kick box of all time for me personally as a as a martial artist. I just know. I will never like even jitsu black Bill a chick could strangle me if you wanted to understand a kid could like break my arm, if they wanted to because I don't know that language. I don't know how to defend that. I don't know. What that is. You know? So I had to like honestly had to just humble myself. And be like you almost do if Floyd takes a year a year. How's he forty one? Yeah. He takes a year. Just to like learns wrestling learned some grappling. He's such a smart and physically genius gifted person. I'm pretty sure he'll pick it up fast. I'm pretty sure he'll do. Okay. Don't fight corner. I if you want to make the money make the money do that. But if if he just takes time, and does that I think you'll be bad like as in bad. Good good as AB that the MA maybe not the best, but he'll be all right? He'll be able to sprawl maybe kicking take some time to work on. But like just the grappling aspect and his hands. Looking at his timing. His is at forty one. Wits about him. You know, so why around be like James Toney goes going this? You know, get in there get amongst it. What do you make of Jared Kenan near peeing where you peed? Understood. It, you know, dog eat dog, and yeah, I'm cannibal about to do what I do. So, you know, winning their Mark my territory he walked, Pat, he. Alpha male who's alpha male. He's okay, he's healthy. Always don't pile off. This comma take the spot. All right now. I I talked to him backstage talk about that. You see it? I didn't see that bit while out hit him up about it. But he's cool. He's because I remember his name Farahnaz. Okay. And I remember now I watch one of his fights. I remember seeing one of his fights heavy what I think he was bald. Yeah. That's why he's a little bit skinnier. That's why recognize him buddy. No them either. But yeah, he was in shorts. And as I do that with me. But yeah, he talked to him backstage when we we took a photo together with a photography crew. But it wasn't disrespect me. Is this kind of what he's doing? But doggy dog I've been in China. So right. I hope not you've had probably I never questioned anything. I never questioned anything. I just if it tastes good. I ate it. 'cause sometime if you I had some whatever. Yeah. I've even worse. I've been everywhere in this some places up eating worse than dog. You know when you. Drought and k chin. Let's go. I took my boy at. Doing. I give them a show. That's my man. He looked after me. I give my show you fought everywhere now and also shot to dusty on hold for coming up from Perth as well. Okay. My boys right there. I appreciate that. You know? Yeah. Thanks for coming guys. I appreciate that. 'cause it takes a lot to fly all this way. Man on the time. They could have been with their family dusty what his dog, you know, Br of doing their thing. But appreciate that. And how about your siblings? Yeah. They're still enjoying themselves. Yeah. What was it like to have them here? Do this again. What what what tell you know? I just wanted to know because I it's a nice way too tight all together last week. We talked about them. I'll come get enjoyed it, man. It was cool. Yeah. They enjoyed it. They loved it. They loved the experience. I I love doing this. Because the shows them there's more to the world is so much more to the little country. We live in you know, this so much more and travel enjoy tasty different foods get amongst that. You know? And I think that's what's if you really want to. If like. Say what what's going to cure racism? But if you ever feel some type of way about something else good of that country immerse yourself, if you really live someplace, I if like KKK got people go to Africa, literally if you can go to Nigeria and get amongst and immerse yourself with the people if you can leave their racist. Well, good luck to you. I just don't think it's going to happen. If you really especially well, actually, go with someone because you probably get ripped off in certain parts of Nigeria but go with someone that can really get you immersing the culture in a beautiful way. Like that's going to call. That's going to cure like your illness of racism, I feel so I want them to like experience everything in this life that they can enjoy the world do while you're young before you settle down, and you can still do what your family, but you know, there's a process when your kids and you have to get them the certain age we can travel with them. You don't to be that parent. Yeah. So yeah. Definitely just I'm happy with the whole trip. The whole trip was and everything is just so much. So many things have happened, man. I told you I told you I did I planned everything to the most minute detail to the most and it's all coming to fruition. And I'm just sitting there like player one and everything else is just bought s- and programs in my world. Is this the best week of your career? Yeah. Yes yet. Right. Right. You fight all over the yet. Yeah. Of course, you fought all over the world. And it just feels like it's all coming together. I put out a thing yesterday. Just looking I'm trying to think about the year end. I think any communist fighter of the year. And I got a lot of people say treated as well because I'm the same. Mind blank Israel. I did it sometime 'cause I'm put on the pressure. Okay. Two seconds. And may our Luke Luke Thomas. Yeah. He said Josh was that's not what is it. Dammit. Look Thomas was almost saying like, yeah. It's either meal DC, and I was like probably I said brick through fighter the years me hundred guaranteed. What to look DC made a poster when I was on Twitter now that he has it. Yeah. See exactly look good on him to like, you know, what give it to him. He has it. But the you're in. It's like, I think it's DC even you. I'm there. I'm there's no doubt. I'm in their talks. And that's nice air to be amongst, you know, nice for kid. I'm a fan of the sport regardless and people's are. I'm a fan of the sport. I've been watching this since two thousand and five like now, I'm here planned, all and initially. You wouldn't pay me enough? When I first watched the fight into five all that you wouldn't pay me enough to do that. I wanna Dana White's job. I was like I wanna be the guy. 'cause I love the sport. I wanted to be the guy playing matchmaker. This guy fight that guy. Yeah. Got one this guy to fight that guy. But now it's flipped. I don't want the mice job that he looks. Yeah. He works. He looks good for what he's doing. But he seems like a lot of work, and I do a lot of work as well. But my work is easy in the cage behind the scenes. There's a lot of our work this time next year. Are you the champion what do out of defending the probably maybe once you think? So. Yeah. Like, what is Kevin going to drop out? And you're gonna get like, what are you? What are you forseeing laya one thing play one thing? Let me look into my crystal buffo for a little bit. And I'll see this time next year. You have the belt after two to one I'm gonna replace this clip after too. The head of the to win the green room and some guy was looking at the balance. Let me see that. And I felt the weight of it. I remember that moment I felt the weight of it. And I remember just touching it and feeling and just like looking at it. And I took a took a little video with it. And I just my debut in February. And I remember just holding it like. I can I'm there right now feel I remember that it was on this show the two. Yeah. A twist holy. Holy. That's crazy. I I'm deep man. People don't understand power this thing as levels. I swear to God out my third. I'm arrays can level. The just do me a favor. I feel like very soon you're going to be on a different level though. Forget about us. Little people bring the elevator back down. I've seen time. And again, a man it's cool for you to come now. But in the year, you're like about. This is already blowing off now. Five days ten days. No response change your number. I'll never switch up on those as long as you keep the same edgy 'cause I would say the name, but there's more reporter who me over. And I told you we're not anytime we actually for interview done done. What happened? That's you not stab me. But he was very he did it twice. Did it? Before for Brad in the pre fight press conference in the post fight press conference about the same thing. I want to go into it. And I seen him as well. He he didn't hit me up about it. But I was just gave them kind of generic answers. I didn't really give them the flavor. You don't get. I told you I'm petty. Yeah. Br. So they'll put me. And now if you're nice to me on Licey, honestly, like just be cool. If you're cool, if you if I say, I don't wanna talk about something like some guys some shoot if a guy's trying to stay away for something that keep pressing like, I'm an investigative journalist. I've ever want to get down to us. Like, he doesn't wanna talk about it. You don't so. Well, he's not getting anything from me ever again. Okay. And that's word to you guys out there where does bond when you leave? Wednesday. Okay. For a couple more days. I'm still gonna work. I'm gonna enjoy myself going to chill. Yeah. The US looking after me. So I mean people want to pay for it as more leaving for the fighters. I understand that. I understand that. And this is the monopoly. Yes. It is. But you have to do your work. You have to know your role. You have to know what you're worth as well. And there's no do so many jealous fighters right now, even backstage, I could see you could feel my guy can no like I said, you can when you see what you've been there before I've been I've been the green monster. So when I see it on everyone now, I'm the slime. Dude, man. Is enough to go around even Charlemagne just posted this thing today. Hold up. Gotta read it on my phone charging. He said. Are we posted? It was a court about like he got raised to believe that the sun is enough sun for everyone. You know, what I mean, infinite money trust me you deal work. They'll pay you trust me, they'll pay you. If you do your work, if you know, you're worth while you deserve to be payment. Thank you so much man relations, what an honor it is to to watch it. It really is. See great. It's unbelievable. A big hit. I'm all right. You're gonna get one of these. You know, one of these big dogs right here. That's coming as well along with a lot of other things. That's the cell do something that's gonna same way. That's the one. He did the McDonald one biggie walls dope. Yeah. Yes. Style bender coming through. That'd be cool. The Netflix that last eb ended. I mean, let's work. Yeah. Let's let's just hit your people out. Yes. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thanks, guys. Thanks for stopping by. Wow. What can we say? And he just walks off. He doesn't need anything. You've done this before you could come any week anytime anytime you come next week Israel. You're the man all the best guys. Take care. Thank you for coming in. While. What can we say about Israel at assign? You a rising star. And I said he is the future. No. He is the present. There's no doubt about that you shall remember his name because he is something else. Okay. Israel to Sonya. Thank you so much for coming in matter of seconds. We're going to be joined by Alliott Belaziz manager to the stars. And I know a lot of you're looking forward to this one. I am curious about this one as well. It has been an interesting month for Mr. Abella Z's, probably interesting. Couple of months, I hear a lot of laughing back there. And a lot of you have been hitting me up. What are you gonna talk about? Well, she was told. I'm surprised that he's in studio truth be told. I'm surprised he's here. I'm surprised I'm talking to him. There's a lot that we need to talk about an airing of grievances. If you will here, he comes Mr. Elliot disease with his headphones on what are you taking a call their Ellie? What's going on? What's happening who you talking to? Welcome. My friend. Handed. Why? Okay. Okay. I just try to be try to be respectful. Okay. How are you? What are you over there? What is it? What is that? Brighi? Okay. What all your prayer beads. Yeah. My uncle used to use that back in the day. You're okay there. What do you nervous live? You never send it the lights. You don't know. What's happening here? Right. You don't know. What about the come? Let's go up. Well, thank you for coming new. I just said are you done with your phone call? They're going are you recording? This it's recorded. Don't worry. I was just saying that if you told me last week that you'd be sitting here in this studio. I would've called you a liar. I I'm just here to put you on bless here. Yeah. Friends. Okay. What's let's talk. Who goes first mayor you. I know you're you're the guest. I'd like you to go. I actually okay there's and come closer to the microphone over there. It has been an interesting month for you. It's been interesting few months, I should say right because the build up to the fight the post fight. But let's be honest here because the people don't know you tweeted out things. I don't think everyone knows you were very mad at me. I woke up one morning blocked on Twitter blocked on Instagram. Send me a text message. What did you say in the tax? We're going to put the cards out on the table, right? Habib was right about you. Yes. That'd be was right about you. You have you have no loyalty to clicks. Yeah. And more click, and then after my interview with Artem you said, you're a disappointment. You said you don't ask. Him. Hardly. This is kinda you said the whole thing is I you're mad. I mean, first of all this. I should not. I have I told you. You know, what I'm saying about the guy who relevant these guys what I don't wanna be. His irrelevant. But don't think is when you have a guy like that you talking to me one of the biggest in a game. This is who you are. Everybody know how you when you talk to people and when people say something become news. But the whole thing is when you talk to people and they lie. I don't ask him to our question become fake news. That mean, you produce fake news to the people out there. What what what he say those? And by the way, people will say the same about my relationship with you don't have relationship, they will say this guy on the show, whatever I said, everything I say happened. I say what are you gonna get a title shot? He got a title shot at their Henry's old is gonna get shot. He got title shot at that Frankie shot. He got hurt. You know, come on everything I say unpredicted happen. I give flying. You know, what what people say about you? You know, this ever may work is fan. I have nothing but hating as people honestly at this point. I can give. A flight. What what everybody thinks because guess what? Like, I said. I have one masters the masters have is my friends. My fires Henza Gracie can be just engage oldest guys. This is my master. I have one master to serve my roster. Everybody else this people that treat me now. I'm like a superstar celebrity was all this stuff fans, fighters coaches, but our ended. Why were you to me though? I matter you walked me on Twitter. I got this. You got this guy. What I said when you as when he asked me questions, I answer. Yeah. Many times. I don't dodge your question. But when this whole thing would this guy Connor happened. Yeah. Did his car this start this whole relationship? Just for you to be clear K, you know, who started who started on Twitter was a tweet I want you say it. You're saying John off John Kavanagh did when I said the thing about when he this prophet Muhammad, and Jesus the whole thing is you don't think he was kind of joking there. You can't joke. Like that. Can I do about Jewish people? I cannot did you think it was malicious? You're saying this whole holy war. The bus. The bus with a tweet, but they'll two years ago, the whole thing the whole this. How things started really this? I'm this. How things started from whose perspective all these? If if you're coach. Yeah, you're fires have to look up to you. Whatever you do. They have to follow you. They sense you understand. And if it's okay for coach talking about prophet Jesus. But birth I'm thirty something man. You know, I'm surprised John put in this part because he didn't come. He deserved one. I'm telling you, it's over honestly, I don't I don't care about this. Okay. But when he interviewed his guy. Yeah. You know, what I'm saying, dude, I got called a fracking terrorist. Right. You know what I'm saying? I don't care. You can call me. The only thing out arise out anybody have before me. I will try to rise you by what by by my success? And like, I said, if anybody whatever, you know, I don't wanna act like a tough guy. But don't think is when you interview this guy, you know? One of the things to this. This thing was premature premeditated. They planned. Yeah. You understand that planned interviewed is this. This little midget, you know, what I'm saying. Artem hey said, oh, he lies you understand. Is he's straight. You know, what I don't think? Because if Connor got slept. I guarantee you Konno's slap you back. What happened is that? Can you come by himself hidden say nothing comeback was grew and grab my head. Get the hell out of here, you think of be gonna bring his crew for your punk know, what happened went to talk with him. And he grabs his lap his face. You understand? And he was talking like like an I stepped in the second time I walked off. And I say focus on you fight, you know, get out of here and his other Chechen, your friend. Got punched busted at phase Gaba stir up guess what he didn't do nothing about it because he was threatening his mouth in actually his friend on got our guy because you run his mouth the whole thing was going to be a compensation, but he was starting to flex its little short guy with him. Like, you look like on orders. Name is. Why are you so fired up right now why you guys not saw fired up and you guys won the fight? It doesn't matter. What God used to this? People abused us. Where pro this guy is two years ago? Talk about religion, right? Talk about come on how many matches you get hate much. I got a lot because what if any Muslim guy out there, send your messages about being a Jew? You have a big nose. They not Muslims. You know what I'm saying? Islam. Or Christianity or Judaism, if you believe in that you understand you're not supposed to make fun of other religion. You're not supposed to make fun of other people. Oh, how fun out there in us installed. Jewish member. Being a Jew is wrong. This is my own people insulting you they not, and I respect that. But here's my thing after the fight, and we're kind of going all over the place here. But that's after the fight has said nothing about Connor very little CONNER wrote his thing, but not despicable. I feel like you're the one who continues to make this into a personal matter making it so heated. Von we one guess what what it is personal. But you want. It's over is person. This still don't think is you tapped him, but the whole thing is no he quick. Well, let's keep this frizz. Okay. Wait. So you okay. So he'd have equal. Why are you Matt is it from being tap and quit quit? Okay. You understand the whole thing is honestly, I can give about why he's screaming writing. All this stuff is going. Making it worse. It's making this sport. Don't think is he said he wasn't a fight as a fight. Yeah. How the hell? You win the fight. You got out struck out grabble out out out wrestled, and after that use clean and the Tehran. Hey is only business. My brother you understand. It's only business. You know, what can go on your? She'll you talk about your your your your family, fun Irish. All this bullshit, bro. I'm in New York for a week. I went to an Irish bar coma. Steph, Harry Irish people come do not represent us, man. I know a lot of Irish people Joe Duffy guy, don't act like them. But don't think is, you know, me, you know, could be we don't change fame money changes. People you understand. But okay, you you talk about World Series of fighting back in the day. No one would cover World Series of fighting talk. Talk talk talk. People about us to an eye problem saying this clown, all this coun-, this all this everybody out there, you the only person you who design Nick Newell. You did. Okay. Anjar Morgan suppose being loyal to block is being loyal to send messages to me. It feels like this is all getting to your head. I if you want me to be on I feel you're getting out of control. This is not the first time I've block rock why who has that child? That's a high school kid. That right that you're taking a page out of his book who out of Dana White's book, you're acting like Dana white with the bully. You are and you're getting two motions. And you're trying to intimidate people. And you're trying to intimidate the media, you are and you can't do that. That's not your job. I am. That's not your job. I respect you for being loyal tier guys for having your intimidate the media. That's what I said to Dan. I said you're trying to intimidate me. And you're trying to you're trying to not only you are not true. If I tried to know what his out to call me appointment, only, my wife, my mom and my dad. I think if I said, I have ties disappointment disappointed me nine my son. How I read what you really wanna I misspelled, and I was wrong for saying that just to make it clear. I never want tried to anybody. You understand listen, he did a lot of things for me. Yeah. Throughout my career. You support me you being humble and oil, but that's not being Larry. I I did block before we got in a fight before. But don't think is everybody think we best friend? I respect you a lot. I think you're an honest guy. But sometime maybe you think team Connor. No, that's what I hear from all these guys. What have I said? I in the post the problem is. Yeah. The problem wasn't. I realized after this. I realize after this. This is your business you have to have many different teams. And maybe that's I think is that you, but maybe I'm wrong you understand. But in a way, I'm not the. Guy. I said he shouldn't be suspended. He shouldn't be stripped. He shouldn't be fine. I said to shouldn't be cut. What more do you want? Like what what what that? I didn't ask John Cavanaugh about a tweet that he sent out two years ago about a lot. This guy said oh Zuid should be cut. He said yours you'll be cut. Okay. And I'm saying no what the yes cut. You know, what I'm saying is you would be cut these guys prima tainted attempted morale everybody in the bus. I try to they said there was coming to kill us. Art didn't cut if he fought in Canada understand you will never be Z can even the cage Zuber they be will. We have trying to send these guys are solo is one hundred million on. On on the ground right there and Suba. Have you say fled Zuber fight and fight. And this is how they were. And even even question, it, don't even questioning me, Andrew faith. We are together. And this is honestly is sparring is he gonna get his mind to me, whatever whatever the a need to do. They have told him you manage him. Of course. I'm okay, whatever you're gonna do with him, whatever he's gonna do. But I know this you will not Sievers you not see even in any fighting a reigned, a cage a hockey ring was Zuber. I can guarantee you that. And I'm not trying nobody this is what the man want because every time this as I talked to people the San three him. I'm just outspoken. You know, the most people don't say smiling. Face comes stick you before. Right. You understand? Why not literally got stick before? Yeah. Somebody bulletin you here before it happened, I'm bullets and I'm saying, drew. It is what it is. But you should be happy. I can confront about mad at you. Not go behind your back and say listen to me, none of this mother out there. Excuse my language. Nobody can say I say something you understand. Because whatever I'm going to tell anybody. I'm saying you face. This is who I am. You understand oldest guys fake like this guy. He said, oh, you got somebody for you. You nothing who this guy. The guy was thirteen and four record. He's got the crew on come with me or let pro uk-us left. He got slightly even nothing. You don't do. Nothing you understand. And his uncle, man. Why do we wanna keep this going keep it going? But this is a monster faces guys my brothers. You. You're part of the story Connor called you a terrorist. Listen, let me ask you questions. Why don't you defend your? Itself. I do you know how to defend myself? Yeah. Because I guarantee you this man will not say this from is. I mean, he said it right in front of you in the one hundred security cameras. Well, understand Wisconsin's listen to me, I'm gonna tell you something. This guy talk. These all these guys they say, it's not over this this this this guys, they know about this life. They have these two this life. They not about this Gun Talk life. When you go to an arena. Are you pro I'm a father? But I'm I'm down for my friend. I'm down for my family. If I see on the street some down guarantee, I'll be there for you. This is why am I grew up? But then two oldest dog. They did. In backing up inside the cage. That in back out on side the. What I'm saying? You got you got people calling somebody, I'm Muslim rat and idea, of course, denied it. But guess what he was saying on Instagram and Twitter throughout the week. You understand it Dylan brought that I don't even want on. He's one mother. I see him. I promise you. I'm gonna smack him. Why brother this guy? Listen Conor McGregor is the world champion. Yeah. You understand? He's the double champ. Yeah. You understand you want an old bum? Never wanna never wanna blackbelt Jiu jitsu twenty as the as a world champion, you understand you live in this man legacy. And this is gonna problem. He's an idiot everybody sucking his blood, but it's not him. Now the world had changed. You see a guy like Habib he made in the president or the one he's going to Abu Dhabi meeting. Oldest this great shakes his going to Morocco Morocco. And he got guy driving a truck sending liquors so understand. So he. Has been meeting a lot of people. But you know, the lot of the people that he's been meeting our polarizing figures in this world controversial figures in this world, Putin vermin. Yes, put actually his car as a pitcher. Then why that doesn't make Putin Inkatha? These are controversial figures this that's what everybody's confidential you understand. You don't think Trump gonna federal? Yes, he's he's state president, right? When you get invited by people, you know, what we've been doing lately, and this honestly more important that anything's k we working on a fund was United lex ten million dollars in one year. We're going to one thousand will Africa cubby might be going to Nigeria next week. We don't things not for us. Come. You can go out there make crazy money run out. Right millions. But he said, I wanna do something. I want to go to Africa that people he wants to help. And we don't now when I advertise in that we're not doing it. But this is what he wanted to do. I want him make what to be honest. I want him to make this up. Clearances make millions of dollars. You know, I got probably five million dollar contract for him alone. And he's down hole to do what probe to meet people appearances. Like people pay him to meet you understand is little different. He become the king of the Middle East row. Now, the king of Africa is he oh, he become different. I'm not gonna compare them. Like Muhammad, Ali like dinner. Did I told Dan I man how you gonna compare trash is why trash the Muhammad Ali. Like this crazy is this respectful to the community two Muslims spritzers to to compare this pig to Mohammed Ali, you can't Mamadali. Never quit. You understand? No way. This is what we do our path you understand like you have faith. I know expected by faith. But this our faith as has to do to help other. And this is not me. This is what we wanted to do. This is why I'm so inspired by this guy. This is why I'm so far. By guy. Yeah. Understand somebody tried. But why are you keeping going is? My is not why are you going on scramming? Right. Why are you calling prostitute? That's not good. That's not a good representation of who. You are. Right. Saying things. Like that to me. I'm gonna tell you something. Yeah. If this man is not a prostitute. Who is a product. What does that even mean? This guy does anything for money. He does is talking about the be things. Things you said you want him to go get might want him to make money. That's the I don't talk. Listen to me this guy. He bring people father mother religion Chism of terrorism. This man said I was on. Have five passports. I must be better stairs on this planet because I'm free baby. I'm here. The only person got terrorists he got terrorized inside this, and I'm gonna tell you something too. If her dean was not there caller McGregor been dead today, you understand 'cause he's talking about killing people and doing this. I'm telling you, he's not about this life. They now about this life. That's what he has all these guys around here. But this guy cannot intimidate us. He cannot if those labels and accusations aren't true. Why don't you come out and deny them once and for all so the kid can give a fly in what? But what people say clearly bothers you off. Okay. Let me tell you. If someone called me a terrorist. I would be doing everything in my power to if I wasn't to deny correct. But I don't care, you know, talks about your past. Why don't you? If he says that you're an informant a double edge, someone like are you crazy? Keep saying it keeps that that's your. Tation? That's what. Business. No, right. Right. He's he's he's he's a liar. You understood why are you saying this now, but I'm gonna tell you something. I don't know. I something why don't you just climb in? I've been ten year in this game. Right. Yeah. Ten years have won only guys left for reasons. News down, my friend. Did is they just have a baby related, right? Didn't Brunson leave and then come back yet? Yeah. You understand? That's true. Good memories. Yeah. But guess what? I'm happy. I'm grateful. That's what I'm not a manager. Everybody out there. If you're looking for a manager. Don't call me. I'm interested. I'm a full blown promoter a manager can pick up the phone. Do your flight. I got people does that. I don't I don't do that. I got team. Does that like I I am a promoter. You know? I said we will change the game from ways. But I am doing it. You understand who do you work for? I for me. I promote. See brother, they wish motive for you can't afford. How are you? The only guy was allowed in the cage. What do you mean? You're like the only manager who's allowed in the case. I was a positive state problem if another manager yelled economy Gregor the way you did at that press conference. They would've been banned from the building. How is it possible that you are allowed to do whatever you want? You know, what it's I have this relationship. You have to understand everything me and Dana and hundred row I got in a fight with hundred other day me and yesterday, I went off on a thanks much. And he called me and honesty. We my place because I was wrong. What was it about? Understand it. No floyd. But the whole thing is I whatever problem we have. I don't let I I don't I don't air out and this when you do business on this level. I can't make a personal about me. But guarantee you me undisguised we bark on each other. You understand me on Sean, our friend. Cianci is a great guy me and him. We he's honestly he's the one of the meanest guy. He go out everybody. I agree. But he just kidding. But he does is one of the best ham. You know? It make is a nice guy, but makes the planet, but don't let it for you make make we'll also put you in your place. If any a lot a lot of managers think you have some kind of deal with the see that you get some sort of how do you get all these fighters? How do you get all these title-fights? How do you how how is it possible? I thought some other guy was getting all this fights. I listened to me over manager there. You know, they do good do good work for you guys. Get out of this is my job. You can nobody can blame me for doing my job, right? By my guys getting title fight. This is good or bad those great my jaw game, pay more money. It's good or bad. Great. That mean, I'm doing my job. Whatever relationship. I have with your see. It's nobody's business. I guarantee you nobody nobody under supplant it. Fight with Dana, white mood and meet. But so different when I speak with this man, I respect what he doesn't from the sport. He doesn't love for everybody. I don't care. I know you happy for them. If you always bring this up. It's okay. Because I think he did a lot for you won't even allow for him. This is my thing. This is what I look at. You like Mohammed Ali have interviewed him all the time. And I think you guys did. But you guys fell off, you know, I hope you guys get back to good graces because I think you guys need each other point, you know, but my relationship with the other day with this. I would not which one which one lower lawyer Atari commission over show up, and he said, sit down crazy mother. He would look I need, you know, sometime I go off on certain things sometime, I'm wrong. But sometime, I'm right? I'm right. You understand the whole thing is I'm nine two mediated by these guys. I'm not sure we friend whose guys I don't kiss up guys everyone every manager there have an opportunity for this. Register die burn it. Or they got too close or something happened you understand and say man, whenever I think a lot of your your beat fans. Got mad at me because I said he stealing Connors playbook the whole thing. Please enough with the Floyd thing is supposed to be the guy who brings some sanity back to the sport. We saw the Floyd story dead now. Now the Floyd is going to Japan to point about this week. We end this. I'm know I always see even a boxing match. I wanna see him in MMA where he's best. Okay. I make two points. First of all. And I'm not kidding you stumbled does a hate mashes for this, man. It doesn't matter Jewish Christian. If you are Muslim, you cannot make fun. That's number one thing. Number two things. This is not of your business. I'm gonna tell you I this none of your business. If the whole thing is can be created twenty seven fights. Twenty seven win. The man never got cut. Never been dropped. Never got a black eye in Tunis fight his legacies there. Sure his legacy is there. Now me as the big brother as the manager. Tony, I one of the greatest fighter Neo see today. They don't just you know, wrong winning streak me. Have you been steady years old, right? Yeah. Still young. Yeah. If I have a hundred million dollars pay day. A few the manager or fifty Melander pay any in an air hockey and fucking basketball. I can't you can't you get that in the UFC. Do you think that you've seen they stupid? They're going to print money. They're going to give you fifty mile. He's on as use at what I got more than two hundred twenty. Okay about what he's best that. You can't get the money. You're looking for it to fight Conor or two GS P. I try legit speed. Gonna just to make it clear. Yeah. I touched your I talked about P this. He didn't know when he when he come on. I love this. This is my big brother. What he thought about yours? He have no idea. Right. But the thing is you have to understand George. It's a fight cubby wanted will come I father of the Manab wanted. It's a fire. So why don't they make it something? If they know. Is one of the greatest promote of all the time. He will give spe- a fight. I fifty five pounds and after we maybe even bounce again. Do it like not not has Heus fought. Matt Hughes sixty catchweight fight legend versus champion. Okay. I'm cubby is yours beat Kebbi Kebbi Steeler champ. So value go down. Now, yours fight. You know, if if DC lost the steep as value doesn't go down when he went up he was still the light heavyweight champion, and it happens all the time. It's like when BJ Penn lost to Georgia UC ninety four. His didn't go down not up. This guys can bring this kind of revenues. I understand you have to understand today to me it just felt like deja vu of the whole Connor Floyd thing. Like, you guys are supposed to be the ones who are the money. You guys are the ones who don't want the show and all that stuff. Yeah. Whoever money, meaning anybody the money the purity of the game. Is it sanctity of this hour? Anybody above the money? Nobody would be fighting because a lot of guys don't even like fighting five because money because you know, a lot of pressure this fighters people fighters, they go through so much they training family that to be separated from their family could Nazis family. He fought four time. I think three times twelve called me. And you told me be never gonna speak to her. Again. You said that right? I care of it. What had why did he say why what did I say we stick together? But what did I say that's a threat you're trying to fight on trying to get me to speak in a different way. You're telling me he's speaking ever again. Nobody can control you listen. Can I tell you something about, you know, the reason you got from FOX thing because nobody can control you control, you how am I can't control my supposed to respond to that control? Me. You didn't want to control me the only prison trying to. But she can't do you. Try to bull as I on this way. I'm I'm not a bully run. Listen. I would I go I can go for a coffee. You we talked. Yeah, we good. But don't think is like I said, I never I never called you the b word like other other people did the D word disappointment. I said this listen because you wanna read it right now a show it on the screen. Sure. I don't care you put it. I don't need to read it. It is what it is. I said it just it is what it is. But the whole thing is right now, we're talking about this money, fight, whatever. If course cabbie is next fight. I don't care what eating because this is my job. I have to make sure he's taking care of what what does he do next? We we have a battle than better commission. This guy's met up. Once that gets cleared. Listen, listen, honestly, they've coalition. I think my opinion. Whatever fight next. He have to fight unless vase to make. Yes. No holding half his purse. They're holding half is quote, unquote. What they holding right? Nobody knows is Roe person. Okay. This is I know eventual. Yeah. This is what they're holding a million dollars. They hold a million dollars. You're okay with that. And we are we have we have lawyers. We talk about Bennett, we cooperating, you know, we we're going to try to this whole we should get. I'm not a commission. I want him to get nothing. Okay. Zero suspension zero money, but they have to show teeth. That's 'cause whatever happened cannot happen. But what happened happened before? But people didn't get about it this. She and John Jones what they do. Nothing corner jumped out of the kids before he got nothing. Connor head is in a press conference nothing. Right. But that understand the magnitude the people's there, you know, listen for can visit to enter the we one happy. I'm so happy that even even even was fifty five. I'm so happy said that I want we happy can we down now. Why are you fired up? Why are you ready to say it's too much? Let's see man. But you know, why did you write last week? I have news. That's can I tell you my theory. You said I have news that's going to blow everyone's mind. You remember that? Yes. I tell you my theory is my theory is you didn't have news. I did have news. What was it? But but you guess what? What listen. I I tell you. I'm gonna tell you what public any mother mother afra- deny. I have proof K. What is it? What was the news? You know, we was talking to Floyd team actually throw it reach out the recklessly, and he said wanna talk any answer because I don't know. It's number. We talked after I talked to people he understand. And I I picked up the phone. And I let the you've seen because we contract with the of. And I let him know the fight. What's what's happening and things are going? But Now, Dan this have some meetings was his team, you know. But then have this is where me and then our difference. We don't agree on this thing right now he thinks he can bring Floyd fighter near see right hands. Be. Yes. He thinks he can do this. I don't doubt the man because he's a lot of you can do. Right. But you have to understand Floyd is not a real fighter. He's not. He's a boxer. You understand? You know, what I'm saying fighting Connor? It was okay because Carter narrow fighter to Connor is like, you know, he get tired. He quit in what I'm saying. And this noted him, but the whole thing is, you know, if you're gonna bring Floyd Mayweather, I think as logic. The guy how how it would kill him. You know, it was it'll be no human day that this is what they know wanted to do. He said I like this as like Connor guys whipped for one hundred million, right? He wanted to bring hobby Floyd octagon game Stony did for if you wanna make the money. You gotta be very much is the does the Japan thing affect us at all no dramatic show, man. You know, I think that you are getting jealous then co was getting so much credit that you were like, oh, I want some attention. That was my theory. Yeah. Stay orchestrated the biggest trade, right? The first trade he orchestrated that he was getting all kinds of love. And I felt like you thought like I need some of that. No. I got much. I got voicemails. I got I got everything and if anybody from Floyd team or from the sea gotta say, something, I'll put everything on social media your listen when Floyd Mayweather Koi directly. Yeah. This is a big news. It is big news because if how can make hundred million dollars under contract, so you have to get them. One. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. How much did he make for the Connor fight? He made he made very good money. He's good much figures. Over ten. You said he won't fight for fifty million Dana laughed at that. That's okay. When asked him he said, he's the promoted it the whole thing is listen, they know what he's job to get the best product for the lowest money again. This is his project. You know what I'm saying? So I give me on fire copy. Who's a very good deal. That's what he wants. He treated us very early times things change if you paid his dollars. Are you upset that kinda made that much more than you deserve? How I can be upset up. He earned. He deserves every bit of it. Listen to me, one of the things I will never take away from Connor his one of the best promoter. He changed the game. Everybody's making more money because you know, that I think you know, he's a prostitute. Yes. I think he's one of the guy changed the game. And I we all make money because him. Yes. One hundred percent. But if I understand Connor is is is popular among American people. Some Irish people little bit a Europe. But koby. Guarantee you. Today. Who's more problem Connor hobby lobby a bigger star worldwide for much much bigger star? What what now you have done? What about what about you? What about you because you just came on the show right now? And you said I'm a promoter. Now to me promoter. You are telling the world that that if they think it's been too much. It's going to be even more is everybody's in for rude. Awakening was listen to me. I've been promoted my guys, I've been promote my guys and work with PF L. No. I don't work. I'm as a fan. I got into them whatsoever. No, I loved his guy promotion, no no zero be fail. I feel all this story out media. They're innocent. Reporter you're on this guy spending millions of dollars you understand. They're gonna pay guys guys for twenty years. Right. Ten years then ever make a million dollars got last Palmer, Steven Siler Vinnie? Oldest guys might be making a million dollar. She'd you know now why? Guys. Can I get love, you know, Kayla Harrison? Yeah, she ever to go to the sea and to go to fail when I look if she going to win she gonna close to three million dollars right is about money. The you'll see amazing to be there if I'm a fighter I wanna find me. But when you look at the money, I think be fail. Everybody think I worked. I don't work there. I used to work at it and manage at the same time, right guys. What? And I said it I didn't deny it. But guess what? I am upper motor. I will promote Frankie Edgar Cody Garbrandt, Marla mariah's, even mock moth Islam market. Chef I will promote these guys become this huge machine. A lot of people will get left behind whatever. I'm doing people say I'm talking you'll never hear me talking about myself. I'm the greatest manager and this. I'm this was about my guys Henry sold right now. You think I have a good relationship with your see we have the. The biggest beef right now that you see about Henry, you know, it's a problem. It's. Listen to me. Let's talk about the meter Johnson damange done then media Johnson. If he wanted a rematch. We was willing to give him a rematch. The meter is left. Because for two things because one is a good promotion going to be a lot of money shelter out. There is a smart guy. And he does a good job. But he knows. Mystique is gone Henry's demand. Now, you know, you you you you rain much respect for this caveman. I know a lot of things before, but I have nothing but love respect, but he understand he cannot be Henry anymore. He moved on. How are we going to trade that great is of all the time? Like, everybody said, I think that all the time I have to be John Jones or Kobe. John Jones have to come back. If you never lose around in ever lost nothing should be considered. I just be the Conor McGregor champion. But I think that meters is not aggressive all the time. I have to be John Jones cabbie Jorissen, piano, composition to understand self. You know now, I didn't sell call me. Of course, you have you know. But then you have of course, have to be concerned about this genre lost right to what's your haunting. But I'm talking about they got been answering. Right. That's right. Yeah. They you'll see the not trade the media Johnson. I'm saying they probably not gonna like it. They got radio Dmitri Johnson. Well, they got something in return. What they do. Ben ash. I'm happy for asking. Yeah. I went to end this weekend. But you can't trade the greatest of all the time for the same money is like this is like the patriots traded. Tom Brady from our Charlene how this possible. So what is your point though? The whole thing is straight is the Henry Suharto thing. Why are you in a beef with of see about him because they want that mean first of all you've got ready Henry pseudo at Henry allowed him because sorry, the mattress let me just gonna make so much more money to you Hugh make three times much money. Right. Who's call me right now who Machi? That's okay. That's okay. Maybe he wants to refute. What you're saying? No. They did a good really did a good job. He makes them each is gonna make so much more money. Right. You understand that meets just gonna make so much more money. He did a good job. And he brought and asking asking give him a gift because man asking we'll never see knock is not. It was monkey you understand. But the matrix Johnson, did whatever he did. That was the best thing responsibly. But don't think is I believe part of me. I think. He kinda got the rematch because he didn't want it. But you'll see one or two because I thought Henry come to Henry Henry will play ball and move up, you know, and move up and and just be like, no more one twenty five. That's what they wanna do. Yeah. Why no idea? I don't know. Because I don't think anybody gold medalist who speaks Spanish Portuguese. Go looking guy if they pay enough Henry is to go up. If you're not gonna like everybody is about money. This is about money now. And that's your job. This is about the let me ask you this. Yes, when Conrad listen, I'm not this about Malki or Henry. They did a good job. Yeah. 'cause I know I know the meters got paid a lot of money. Most of the champion. They not gonna make what what's this isn't a train. What's the meters? Gonna make he's gonna be can eight figures, maybe may more even than eighty right? You understand that mean, he's secure? Future. But they see very much they destroyed just get rid of the Mitri. But he's smart. I think that you've have lost than win. Okay. Fair enough. It's just my opinion. Let me ask you. I know I know you're active online blocked me into your active online. I know you look at the comments every time. I have you on the show. I get killed for it. Right. When he why you have this guy on while you haven't Monto to to put out his negativity and his past, and I've asked you a million times about your past, right? I've asked you million times. Why don't you come out and clear the air once and for all Connor is the writing about you in the Washington Post? I'm going to do them. Why win time out just wants it? No other. When I when I saw them everything will come up. Why my lowest right now. No, why why I gotta talk about what I did. What am I calling? Calling you a terrorist people on my thing. They're like this guy's listen to just say anybody wanna call me that come set at my face off. I'm gonna if you wanna say to my face just shut up. Right. That's it. Whatever I do. I'm going to shoot auction boost Connor they say Sukarno, but I don't wanna switch on it. I really don't wanna do because I know he's promoting defied. Don't agree. What he said. I have no intention of soon. But I'm in the process Hsun Washington Post, one hundred see the Washington Post for what for saying that you think think call you they reported what he said it's a lawsuit because it's liable is character, bro. I have people said they wanna kill my children. They wanna they wanna rape, my family is, of course, copied a lot of problems. If in me, I believe that religion agree with you hundred percent religion family should not be discussed. But in this fight. You were attacked, right? Religion was discussed and your family was brought up and you didn't want to talk about this. Right. What you know what I talk about it more. I'm gonna make news. And more is going to affect me. It doesn't have it doesn't bother me because the air and just I I don't need to clear nothing because more. I talk more. We're gonna write me, you know, when you speak people, you know, people are drawn to it. Right. But listen to you become a character in the sports, not about being a part of becoming famous part of becoming in the public eye is sometimes having to address things that are said about you. Right. I know you can't address everything that I I dress lawsuit because when you do a lawsuit. Everything's going to have to come who who are you suing just Washington buzzed for now. But they're not the ones that said they were reporting. This is my lawyer job to do what he does didn't bother you that got personal about you that you became a story in this fight to be honest with you. I think sign of weakness, I think sign of weakness for somebody to talk about family children. And and religion, I think is weakness because he no he doesn't have any showed a short when he went to side, this cage. He wanted to get in honeybees mind. He that's Conor McGregor that he does a great job getting people's mind. This is what? He does you know, whatever this is what he that. He's good at that. But twenty did was even backfired on him. It's put a later afire undercover. But and he was training three or four times a day. He never does motivated more. See how come you were in the back during the fight? Because I felt I didn't wear a suit. I was with my sweat so much thinkers, I felt doing this fight. I was too much in the I was I was too much. I was in group. And I felt it's time for me to stop back. And now, you gotta watch to the best lightweight in the world ever fight each other. So it bother you that you were brought up that you are part of the story. But yet you made yourself part of the story, right? You are the one before even on this show back in the day. You are calling Connor before. Right. I know this is the fight is gonna take his legacy do from level. Of course. So if you're going to interject yourself you have to sort of. I didn't talk about congress family, children your wife. Yes. Father come on short talk a lot. I did not say one bad thing about his you're right. And I never will. You're and I never will. This is not who I asked her. Why didn't you respond when he talked about your family because the whole thing is the only respond. I wanna give it to him punch him cross is knows I'm breaking you one hundred percent. He's talking about my family. Let me talk about your family in. I this is why I wanna fight somebody talk about my family is nothing. You know, if anybody talk about your family in a bad way, you have to smash in how you don't want to smash him. And this is why for me, I'm my mindset talking is gonna make me more under you understand. You understand my family never have this. My son never did nothing to him. My my wife that there'd be understand us and all my family's upset about this all the emails all this thing. It doesn't matter. If you must be this, this this this, this is horrible. Do you wanna clear the air? Do you wanna clear 'cause he was what about your family about what he said about your family is my family is my family was asking do you can't why I want to discuss my children my bra. It got brought up in the face. What guess what he's a low life piece of what he is this. I know you'll never do that. I know. Joe Johns like certain guys, but the guy he have no values. You understand you understand like me and monkey right? We have we have beef right before stay between us. We talked all the time. We are we when they come out monkey call me won't keep you hit up. Whatever, you know. Like, the whole thing is and we have before. But because what we men will keep things about. But you never see me come out and say bad things about him. But he said bad things about me, or I have problems other manager or this person, or this person is that why you're continuing this thing is it's so personal. It is personal Ehrich person. Even though you on doesn't matter this man insulted, my family, my religion where I come from. It is personal because cabbie guys revenge. I didn't what did you think? What do you want you taking? I don't know. I I'm gonna tell you. I'm not gonna show him. You're not. No, I I have a lot. So crazy. Saugus. Connor why you create how we're gonna talk about somebody like that. But the whole thing is I'm not in it so people because he called you a terrorist. Listen to me, I'm over this whole thing. Okay. It is what it is to be honest with you. I'm not gonna say over everything's, okay. We make one no no is wanna fight him. Again. You want to fight on this into me right now. Whatever want want I'm going to do. But what is he telling you? He wants. Do you wanna talk about fighting rennet? Right. We ever commission. This is a big problem. You know? But you know, but you know, the whole thing is like I understand I feel like it's better for everyone. If we move on a little bit from this for you for your sanity job is the choice our choice. It's not your choice who say hoping is when you talk about money who's going to bring them the biggest money fight like DC on John Jones. Right. You think guys fall for the third time? It would not be even bigger. Of course, he'll be bigger. I'd have. Anyway, you know, you got one of the greatest of all the time. John Jones, come back. He'd be CDC become the heavyweight champion. They come back. A lot of things said it doesn't. But I believe John Jones, and they see they did not talk about their religion or their families. They did not. And you felt that was too much. No, they didn't John Jones and DC didn't talk about each other's going with you in your cause down. The John Jones Jones talks about it a little bit. But I it's a little, but it's not the same. I know he says I go to your house. But I. These guys have found these guys don't have nothing. That's why says a prostitute not because actually getting Bank. I'm talking about he because he does every Artem saying that he called him a chicken. And where where they're from. Is that true? Do you know about that Russia? These are not first of all these guys are not being the c on his record. Right, right. This you number one play him like crazy. What do you mean? You play me. So you the you come how come on you you playing him eight believe that? No, he does. If this guy is not going to up in the AFC one hundred percent. He's a draw people like him he draw because he is a clown. You understand worth? He got he's. Never go never got finished his record. He got finished. Like so many times in the UC. Madam though, I don't care about this. He's nothing. Honestly. He's honestly. I feel like he's got into this middle things. You're not gonna middle of it. But he put himself in it because he's talked about cubby if he shut his mouth shut his mouth nothing happening. Right. But he opened his mouth. Yup. Understand this guys from douglaston Russia. They one of the nicest people, most generous, respectful guys. But. Certain things you don't cross with them when this guy's not over these over. Hey, what happened? You know to my impression is this isn't over. This is what's this can never be over. They said this cannot be over. But I'm telling you this cannot be over. This is going to be over because I. I like that while the history. Created hollywood's. Yeah. Right. And this guy. Hey created a holy wars. Try to Connor. Yeah. Was a knife. But he doesn't understand. It was a lot of tanks and aeroplanes when you talk about things like that. It's it's a bit scary. I must say that scares the game. It's supposed to be fun. Give adulting is like, I'm telling you. I'm defending new nobody should be because this is Cussing. Yeah. If somebody talk about being a Jewish big knows about your family, this is discussing Islam. They say that Christianity say that. If you are be not talk to you this way, we not with us. Our brother you understand. Nobody should talk about this. These you cannot do this so bad you understand. So somebody's wife. Somebody's kid somebody son. Why why they they say home? They do nothing to nobody. They innocent. What's your wife lets religion to everybody talk about? Oldest people older people talk to me in that to me. I swear to God to not bother me one bit Connor bothered me, you know. But these people Connor bother you because this Connor about there because he started a lot of a lot of hate. He started become hate when he called Utara him. I don't hate nobody. I do not hate him. But this guy this startup people are never even shake his hand. You understand how forgive him to be forgiving me. How are we good? Now. We are good. Listen to me. I know you never gonna talk about my my mother, and my wife, my son. But we have you realize what the job of the media is. Yes. And honestly, I think I want apologize to because I expect so much from you. But I think but I shouldn't. But it's one of those things like there's so much information out there about you. And there's Conor McGregor talking about you. And the fact that is a quick owner that guys say a lot of the most powerful though, he's not he don't want puffing what he's the age draw. He's used what? And then you come out. And you say this guy's not gonna talk in this guy, and we're gonna it's just the whole thing is a bit. Everything's good. I think you need to go on vacation and calm down one on good. Okay. Good luck. Listen. Yeah. Like, I I wanna say couple of things here just before Tissa jar, right? Okay. One of the things to okay, let me ask you Machi wants to talk to do you wanna talk to him? Now, if you wanna talk, we can talk, you know, why everyone ETR conversation that's fair. I I don't think it's fair to put you on the spot. He wants to say something to you. But I am we can talk. We talk every day, we can talk. Everyone's to say something to you on the air. But I don't think talk to me if you wanna talk me, I'm a call. I said they did a good job. I know. He's suck. He'd be mad. But you wanna thought asking me, they're asking me? So that's I don't think it's fair to put you on the spot. That's why I would ask you first. And that's fine to forget about it. Okay. He had what did you say? Henry Henry is just not going to go thirty five and just be like, okay. I'm gonna go thirty five number one thing. Like like, I mentioned him l'amour iceman on fries. He's getting screwed being just fire. Supposed to fire crew said no was to find out. How you know? I don't know why he said, no you understand. Now, the men stuck with not to fight. You know, it's a lot of things man. I'm I'm kinda tired. I'm done done yet. I win ten nine. How lonnie? Draw? Rumble Johnson, I thought rumble last week. Right. And he said John Jones DC has heavyweight. On John win if John win he wanted to come back. And this is the only five he think you come back to John John's, but a heavyweight or light-heavyweight John Johnson's two hundred eighty five pound. Okay. That's it. So he's considering a comeback or he is coming back. He wanna come back as heavyweight. Okay. But but I think have to be something different. He can just he he missed us for the sport. And he said he will come back to fight someone like John Joe, whatever to the body building. He's having fun. And he thinks he's been on for a long time. He's resting his body and fight again. He will fight again for sure hundred under percents. So he has to go through your side again though because he retired. Yeah. Six months. I say so we good you calm down. I'm calm. Stop threatening. The media. I'm not trying to you know, you the only. John. Kevin. I I never threatening right? Having. Wasn't it? Jon Morgan, I want the last month not going to be on it. I be honest with you. I didn't talk to you for the last three weeks. I was I was in heaven. It was so great. Without you bothering me threatening me and bullying me. It was amazing. It was amazing. Wow. This is a great life. I don't need this guy. Relationship. I'm going to say, but now stop the block the blocking. That was twelve year old kid with the blocking. Honestly, it's I know sometime quite did. I say this. Yeah. You understand? I see a lot of things. I shouldn't. I shouldn't say, but it's funny. That people think that were like buddy buddy went understand when we talked people. Listen, I don't know about that. It was great talking to you for a month. I loved it. It was you know, who's responsible for all of this the vault without him. None of this is happening. He was still Daniel my man areas guy. You guys have a good relationship. And he said he said, I was wrong. He can act specked from him. He's not your partner. He said, he's not your partner. He's doing his job and you need to do your job. And to say, listen, I showed him blocked, you gotta it. He shouldn't send me threatening messages. I didn't try. All the stuff. All right. Okay. All right. We're good. We're good this ajar here jar who she? Yeah. She's her to she was mad at me. Also. I have no reason to be mad at you. And I have to defend you on this one, you know, the jar. She just she's a great Gherman and she worked really hard. But I of the day we have to make weight. It was our fault mcquaid. She blew up. She her next five guarantee identified she probably not gonna get it. Now, she have to kinda you're gonna talk to you. And she can okay. Let's do. Thank you for coming. Got Salama like tell by say, Hello, Okay. Text them. I don't have number changes it every week. All right. It's he probably bought me to there. He is Elliott delicacies good times. Wow. That was fun Ali. And here's the Jarrah. No rest. Thank you. And I'm sorry for keeping you waiting. I'm not sure if you heard, but Lee likes to talk. I'm actually so happy. I'm so happy to see you because this is probably going to be a lot more enjoyable than that. Then all right. After that. Thank you for coming. I appreciate it. I didn't think you'd ever come back. Oh, man. I we need to clear up, but we did already. We went on this whole back and forth. My my whole thing is I always felt throughout my career. If someone's mad at me, and in particular fighter have the utmost respect for all of you every single one of you that walk in. I just wanna come to you and clear the air. And if you don't wanna talk to me ever again, that's cool. But at least want to tell you why should this or one understand why you're mad, and we went back and forth. And you're very honest text much respect. I I know that you like to keep a real. So I am happy that you're here after all that. Because I didn't think that you would come. I'm happy to be here. And I can respect you coming up in in saying how you fell and we were able to hash it out and chitchat, and that's all I wanna do. I just like to be heard. And and I appreciate you putting a platform for us to be able to speak and clear mines and like you say like you saw lease. We can come on your show and say, whatever we feel so that's the lots respect. Congratulations on the win is it with mixed emotions. Yeah. Are you? You're not really able to to to actually like be happy about this one. And celebrate or are you going to be happy celebrated because I was able to accomplish a lot over the weekend. I was happy my performance. My family came out to see me, my my dad's all my fights. I did have a couple of bit. Like, I have my mom come down. Cousins. Never see me fight. It's Madison Square Garden like there's a lot to be happy about. But there is the little disappointment there that I wasn't able to make it to the scales. Do I wanted to? So what happened? Yeah. I don't know we have to we have to figure it out. I was coming in lean been working really really diligently to get my my body, right? A year ago? We know happened. I was hospitalized. And I went to PI was working really closely with nutritionists and doing everything like I felt like I was supposed to do. And I was coming into this fight week lower than I did my last cut for you. There's Laura Murphy in in my body whenever I cut to win twenty five one thirty between. Thirty one twenty eight is really when it starts to get tough. And I had hit one twenty eight and was just men. I I would be cutting like that day. I went from I woke up I can't remember remember exactly, but we had started around nine thirty with maybe four or five pounds to go and cut for two hours like sweating, mid smeeting, mid sweating mitts and only got like a pound point seven off. And it just starts to get exhausted. And you know, I kinda was worried I was like if I if I push it too hard and I make it like hospitalized. Like last time. I'm not gonna have any fight. So I kind of like if if we pull the plug pound early I'm going to get dragged at least I'll have a fight. Okay. And so it's kind of what is in. And I'm a female in everyone all the fans and people hate to hear it. But you know, once a month, we have everything in and it makes a difference. Your body wants to hold onto the soul. It wants to hold on biologically like. You have to have some kind of fat and and watering you in order for your natural cycled happen. So so I heard from some people said like you showed up I think at around nine thirty still had some time left. Why didn't you go to the buzzer and try to cut as much as possible or you just couldn't? Not that. I not that. I couldn't. But I was speaking to the have doctors, and they were like just let me let's make some calls a sea of rock is okay with it. Let's let's see if everyone's okay with this and just leave you here. Because if we suck you out too, much more, we're going to commission sees you. They're going to if the commission sees you struggling in. And they know that you had struggles in the past. We don't want them to Yankees. And I I don't wanna be yanked either. So. So they they they offered me the chance to win at nine thirty and starts rehydrate instead of waiting until eleven you knew that you had a title shot. If you on is that no longer the case, I'm assuming not how do you feel about that? It hurts. It hurts. Second time. Right. Second time gotta be the charm here. Yeah. I guess it. Will you get a third time? Hope so I mean, my my my my goal in life is is to be real champion. You no matter. What ways I was determined to do flyweight? But I don't know, man. I'm gonna be champ one day one way or another thirty five twenty five I really feel structurally based on hive stood like literally stood side by side by some other band weights. I feel like structurally, I'm closer to the size of flyweight. It's just been. It's just been a hard cut. I got a lot of muscle. I've been test. I have a lot of muscle mass. And it's hard to chip away at muscle. Mass fats, easy, hit the treadmill? You run around you diet clean. Your fat starts to come down. But to to to deplete some your muscle. Masters takes a lot more time. I'm going to get a belt one way or another. It's just it's just my goal in life in dead fast determined to get it. So when the ultimate fighter was announced. And it was for the Bill at flyway. I was like all right. Tim more pounds is gonna suck. And it was going to be terrible cut. But this is the quickest path to the built in any fighter that is determined to be champion. They want to pass that's going to get them there without taking twenty freaking years. You know? So I just taking me a lot longer. I've been in weight, and I knew that by entering fighter tournament. I could get my foot in the door of the UFC and make some noise and get close that built. So I hope that flyweight I really wanted to be a flyweight. And I wanted to do some things I want to go back to John board and see what we can do here. But the end of the day, you know, we gotta we gotta make sure I'm healthy. I gotta go home to my kid at end today. There have been some scenarios some situations in the past. Where do you see is almost ask someone to go up? Right. Kelvin gasoline comes to mind others as well. Anthony johnson. Do you think they'll ask you to go up at this point? I'm not. I'm not sure would you be open to it up. Yeah. 'cause I rather keep my job at one thirty five. I have another older. So we have to ask my doctor gonna cut you. But if they say, look, there's nothing for you. Here we can't possibly put you in a title fight because you've missed. Option flyweight, I'm out here. Because I want to Bill I want to strap told you about what they think. No, we haven't talked. What do you think? Like, what's the point of going through the whole one twenty five cut? Do you think you're you're at a disadvantage, I want thirty five? I don't to be honest with you. I think is a had a lot to do with my ego. I just don't like to like. Okay. So I can I can talk. Okay. So I was abandoned wait for when I first started my career because I didn't think ever going twenty five like I had been kind of heavy kid my whole life. And when I was doing to just do it the blackball levels competing 163 like so all you've been kind of buff, husky kinda grow. And then you know, I my manager at the time. I think you're flyweight. Let's take some fights before the flyweight division will come into eventually. And so my first cut the flyweight was like this terrible. I've never doing this again. I thought it was terrible. It was the first time I fought Caitlyn. Actually, I only but after that went back up to benway started lifting, and I started trying to swell up for bantamweight. And then when they also Smith fighter I try to go back down. And now what what happened the year ago been hospitalized? Really to me. I felt like that first house was Asian was my fault. I didn't think I did what I was opposed to do as far as attrition as far as conditioning as far doing I supposed to do to prepare for that. I had a shot. I was offered guest. Nico montani. I think came at fighter a little gassed and little overconfident and kinda just like hanging out. And then that first one was my my fault. It's always like after eating myself. And so that's when I started to really take my condition seriously. I think we talked about this the first one was on your show. And so I got down to a walk around those under one fifty coming into Lauren fight. And like I said we're working really closely with the PI in Clinton was in. We have to continue. It's going to take us some time to get you under in walking around as lean as possible with as little bit a fat on your body as possible is going to take some time. He's like if I could I would tell you to wait like a year. But I just don't have the luxury of waiting that long between fights. So after Lauren I did. Okay. But because I wasn't really at that walk around and needed to be a blue backup after more. And again it started coming back down. And I just I just couldn't I just didn't have didn't have the last two pounds coming into this weekend. It just was it just it just paint me. I was like I can't go back to the hospital, man. A part of me when I miss I don't I don't like to miss. I'm like to be wrong. I don't like to. Embarrassed that way. So part of me like a part of me was like can we try to go after I I've been talking to Clinton go out to the PI soon as possible. Okay. Have you ever been there? Okay. Wh-? What is it like to fight it MS, gene? Get booed before the fight. You're getting booed. I got to pretty bad at the fans or smart they follow. They know what's going on. What what does that? What does that do to you? I don't care. You don't care. Awesome. You're playing it up again. What's up, y'all? Yeah. Probably talking smack right now. You know, you gotta live Twitter feed somebody right now talking about right? And it doesn't bother you know, why not listen. I'm a black woman. I'm gay black woman in America. Somebody's gonna hate me at some point. And you don't hear go look here right now. She's playing the race card. No. It is what it is. Like, I've been I've been a fan of sports I've been a fan of mixed martial arts and I've seen some athletes crumble under the villain card. Some athletes were at the top of the game to something. And then, you know, the fans start to hate them in there, like hotel love me, you know, seen it happen. And I was like at some point. They're gonna hate me. I just kind of put that in my head. If they if they never hate me, and I'm loving the whole career great. I'll be loving the whole career for some point. The people hate me. I can't fight it. Like, I can't sit appearing let it mess with my inner peace. So I think you're playing it up perfectly. Yeah. Why not you might as well brace embrace it? Right. Whatever it is. And still the end of the day. Like is gave me a lot of notoriety in the last what last time I spoke to like not too many people knew I was except for those from a fighter that year this time. Like, yeah, I'm coming up Emma's you being like that many people even know. So I thought you played it. Well in the aftermath UFC won the fight. But I was disappointed. One thing. You didn't say anything to Joe Rogan, Joey what happened that was your chance? You know me. Now, Joe, you know, Joe. So Joe came out to me right before the interview he came up to indicate before before the cards were announced he came up, and he showed his spec meeting disrespect by it. And I was like Joey had to do me. Like that have to dismiss me that way. And he was like this. I say lot of things I talk a lot. But I I really didn't mean it you put on a great fight in. I hope it's cool. Okay. And so we did speak. She don't wanna put on blast. No, not after that. He kind of did he came up to me indicates you show me respect is about respecting. Okay, fighters out here. Like, we're putting our we come out, and we we risk almost everything. Yeah. To get out in a cage and chased what we love in front of thousands, hundreds tens of thousands of people like, you know, the the the Ristori ward is crazy like have some respect. So you're all over them. Yeah. I'm going. I'm not here. I'm not here to beef. I'm here to like respect respect you posted the tweet that I think some people the wrong way, the the show like no, I'm sorry. No long explanation. Just that. I'm sorry for what I should die for you guys out here. Right. Because I mean, I have to say responsibility. I apologize to my coaches. I apologize to my to my family. Apologize to my teammates. Those are the people. Oh apologies to because I represent my team at the end of the day. I represent Marquette Ricardo Mehta team has Gracie Jamal Patterson. My teammates were there with me every day, my family, whose depending on me, those are the people. I. To those are the people who I let down myself, you know, but I can give ragged either way on Twitter, whatever gonna have a ball with me or they were gonna rip me either way since one gas it food a little bit. But what about Ben aspirin? Been asking. Yeah. Now that do if I said something to him too. I seen him. I stop and ask him backstage. Right after my fight, okay interview. And I was like what's up? What's up? What's your problem? Won't you focus on making way around your business? And I started to tell him somewhere. He's there with his wife, and his our weather that wasn't he trying to his his interview. But I said something to really, yeah. Getting nobody because when what's been asking. What would you step into me for for what you're not a troll? You're not feign. You're fighting like you MAC, and I'm gonna UFC because more people know about me and my little four little fights. And you're not here wrestling everybody to death last twenty years in the wake, here's what are you? Step in me for. Wow, what is so I came to him the way I came you. I thought all serious and chess. One hundred seventy five pound, which one do you like do you think he crossed the line with his tweet? I don't even know what his most recent tweet was tweeting about me. How many tweets have you tweeted about me? Like, you're at the world's tweeting about me. What are you doing trying to help me here anyone's way in the world except Eubanks? He said what he said. I'd fight any welterweight in the world accepts ajar Eubanks because he's scared him because he not magazine. That's right seven I tell you what I fought in Aguirre hundred sixty three put on with that you think. So I'm nasty in the game, man. Nobody knows. Wow. Men bins been you know, I don't know what his problem is on his deal is like me step online. That's like me saying something to do like for what like what am I going to say something to one hundred eighty five hundred four right? Like, it's not my it's not my business. It's not my plane. I'm another fighter if anything other fighters when you the same class, and you notice potential to fight. Okay. Let's talk. Because we could actually sell our differences like me, and then like don't live differences outside the cave never gonna be able to actually step into the cage. So I said sometime after fight like what's up, right? So you're not gonna swing on me. So why are you doing well done? Okay. So did you talk today and weighed afterwards? I haven't spoken to date. No, really surprised. You said you went after him on the phone. So I figured he'd have something to say back to you. I thought he would. Ooh. Both that pounding. No, nothing. You didn't say anything to the winds when you guys know? But I I said sorry, I'm Osama man what he says he just not it wasn't really is live Windsor. Sure. Nothing in the back. I haven't literally haven't seen him. Okay. What about MC manner? I saw Mick at the winds. And in a sense, I said. Sorry to him to what he say. Same thing. Just gave me the. Yeah. I gotta give you prosper having a smile on your face. Right. All this a lot of people would come in head down offering excuses. No, man. Yeah. I miss the weight not been trying hard. You know, a lot of people like oh like as easy to sales. I sit around, you know, shoveling cookies now man house clean running in most people seem you on daily basis. My body has changed over the last nine months, I've gotten slimmer we just missed the market little bit the actual fight where you happy performance. I was happy. I was happy with it. Yeah. Why not? I mean, she's. She's on tough here. Big stage you've ever fought on Madison Square Garden. It's a long ways from Utica, right? That's why I'm smiling. So no, no complaints. No complaints. I felt like my different slipped. A little and I managed to go back and watch the commentary. No, people said, I was tired. I think it was a little bit more nervous. Yeah. To be honest. I mean, it's a huge stage. Yeah. It's like, you know, half the time. I'm like don't worry about it. Just another fighting have time like is medicine frigging Square Garden like when you get off the bus, and they put you in that infamous freight elevator elevator. Like oh. My God guys. Yeah. Chase. He's been in this elevator logo. Right. Oh, yeah. Beyond say visit. This elevator cO pitcher. So it started to kind of like. And I knew that this was important, especially after the mis did you recognize important. I had to win this garden to ahead to win by any means that Surrey doing this fight. Even if it wasn't the most flashy win or whatever. So I felt like, you know, in my mind really wanted to finish his fight. I think finish with a definitely stamp things. A little bit more for me, Barack shins toughen you certified I hit everything I had kicked and she got she proper backup. So if it was up to your next flight one twenty five. Probably really all that all over again. Let me I just feel like. Is what I been praying on it. And it's hard. I'm still only what forty eight hours you move. Oh, yeah. Less from the fight. I just want. He's built so bad bet. I'm so close to the flyweight Bill right there. Oh, and I feel like if I go to benway have any trouble with being I think I can bulk up to put on muscle masses to take it away. I think my speed will make up for the reach disadvantage. I'd have been weight, but probably have to start probably pretty close to the bottom and work my way over the deck up at a week. And I feel like I'm so close. I'm so close to the Bill at flyway. I'm just cloth. And you know, I'm thirty three I plan on fighting for quite a few more years, but it's not too many chances a fighter has to get for Bill. I seem to have quite a few. Calms my word. We'll come 'cause my time will come on one way or another. I'm determined that my time for a title shot will come in my time of getting that built after on my waist will come it will. But that's that's kind of what makes makes bridge. People is how how long you gonna stay in the grime before get what you want like I've been knocked down before. And I had a tough knock last year. I got another tough knock one way or another one thirty one twenty five forty five. I'm gonna get gonna get when these belts aerial. I'm figuring telephone next right now. I don't think so I'm not gonna even hold my breath. Right. And you're at peace with that. Yeah. I have to I have to be the new contract probably helps new contract comes a lot is. That's another reason why was import for me. Now, I can lease. I don't have to work like security or deliver. You were doing I was working security on the weekends and delivering food during the week. How recently up until I thought I was fighting Valentina come on. Yeah. For real. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With all ready UFC fight on your belt, two jobs. Not just one two. And now, you quit him. I quit them. When when they when when you called me for Valentino also struck out five weeks. Really? The ultimate fighter. I had a few bucks. And I just knew I made I told you I got guests. I think I had like ten fifteen thousand bucks and good now baby I'm fighting for title and get two hundred thousand and then when I did make the way I was back to nothing back to nothing. So that time between when I when when I was at the ultimate fighter up inside fall. And Murphy was pure struggle. Like I had to go back to like asking my dad to send me money every month. Wow. Yeah. Like like that. And then after Lauren Murphy, I kinda was able to get gas. But I was still in a ton of credit card debt. I was still you know, I still had owed a bunch of people the time that I I wasn't working in getting getting off the ultimate fighter. And so over the summer yet pick up another job. I got a shout out to JR's bar at jersey shorty hooked me up with it with a job. They're real good guys friends with Frankie. So I was working there not not very long, but they they knew what was up tone took real good care of me. Let me stay in a firehouse. I was a little bit behind on on my Rendell. And he he was he said it was cool. And then, you know, you know, door DeShaun those free hours door to deliver for door dasher. And wow, that's people recognize you a couple of times. Do you fight like take your food? Going back to that. No more. That's great. So so you think tell shop, but in the end you kinda went out because you don't have to go back to that these for now, I'm smiling there. Yeah. He's asking. Why aren't you more mad like I'm healthy? Like, I have a happy family like I can finally breathe now. I can like I know after this weekend. I had enough money that I don't like they in the first thing. I send my girls. We don't have to struggle. No more. Like, I'm not rich. I'm not Floyd not Connor. But right. I don't have to. I don't have to deliver pizzas deliver food. No more. Like we're to that point now after this weekend like. Chill that you can when you want to return how much of a break after everything taken long breaks. Let's return as possible. But obviously, the whole flyway thing we gotta see if we need a little bit more time to to see I'm still pretty small. This is actually the lowest I've blown back up after flyweight cut. So usually I cut the twenty five into the cage I'm back up to like one fifty. But the next morning after the cut I was only like one forty two. Okay. And so I came into into the cage like forty five forty seven. I was just wondering 'cause this past month has probably been a little bit, mentally exhausting right with everything. On a little bit of a break a little bit not much. What aren't taught who? Do you want? Thought about that. Okay. Toronto for the title fight. I would like to go. That would be snag. I'll leave before he ran off like leave Toronto will be a he'll move you sit there in the front. That's mile. I still I kept saying that that fight was going to be more is. Yes, perfect sleeping. I would love to. Yeah. Boring. Yes. I would do that far you hook it up. Now, I'm gonna tell them we were talking about it strong before, you know, for sure. His people off more for sure you're still claiming that you're the number one contender still. Yeah. Do you say look idea? I like it. I'm gonna say worst is if people are just don't tell mos- my, okay, then you're totally screwed. But the worst he'll and doesn't sort of embrace it. If you brace it, then people start to get a little confused. I kind of liked this person. I don't really wanna hate them. But if you sort of fight it, then you become even more hated. I think so I think you're playing perfectly. Thank you. Yeah. Keep it up. It just exactly how I feel. But thanks. I'm happy. We squash are are beef ever came in. I'm sorry didn't work out this past week. But you know, it's a weird thing. It's like, I think you would agree when you have a contract the professional thing is to make weight. But in a weird way, you're being professional in the way, you're handling it in the aftermath. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. So I think that takes a lot because you can offer every excuse under the sun, you can come in here and point fingers, but you're not doing that. You're owning up to it. And I think that that's that's that's commendable. Appreciate that trying to try and do my best just trying to get on these bills out here for my family. Appreciate that. Every time we have someone coming in. We have them sign our banner over there. You might do that for us. Of course. Okay. We've got some big dogs right over there is. Yeah. The markers right over there jar Eubanks team Eubanks right here. All right. It was it was a doubt for a second. But now, we're like the best of friends. It's yes. And and don't want to be on her bedside because I saw what it's like on her bedside. Let me tell you. It is not a pretty place. She is signing our banner going to charity one day star. We don't know which, but that's my that's my word. Thank you so much for coming in all the best to you. Yes. And good luck. In your next fighting congrats on this one despite everything that happened there. She has Eubanks stopping by one of the top contenders at one hundred twenty five pounds in the US's women's flyweight division. All right. What a day. Oh, yeah. Elite. No, you notice I didn't ask you to sign the ban. It's only at least. Least still here and just came in and said, I didn't sign your banner. Guess what? I didn't ask him to sign the panic because he's not a fighter thinks he's a fighter, but he's not a fighter. Anyhow that was interesting as he's about to like bargin, Jake then front of that door over there. Okay. 'cause I don't want. I don't need. No. I don't even know Ali smoke. Okay. Thank you, Jake. It's been a fun day. Wow. We still have the post show some gonna wrap this baby up matter moments. We're gonna take the post show in your quick we're going to talk to you, see two thirty. We're gonna talk a little Floyd. We're gonna talk you see Denver twenty fifth anniversary for the UFC. What else a lot of other things going on someone didn't drink their water? But for now, we shall say goodbye far as the live show. And I hope everyone enjoyed it. I hope you're all content. I hope it lived up to your standards and and your expectations. I had a fun day. There was certainly. A lot that happened today as my computer crashed in the middle of the interview, always fun. When you have the in studio guests always fun when it's after pay per view, always fun when you have one of the greatest of all time, Daniel Korea stopping by with all those belts. I would I would guess that was like two hundred pounds worth of gold right there. If not maybe more nine belts just chilling on his lap. That's unbelievable. Thank you so much to everyone who stopped by. Thank you so much to everyone who tuned in on this rainy Monday. My socks are a little drier. But still quite what if you could only see what's going on under my my my desk right here. No shoes. No shoes. Monday. Thanks so much. Have your Mendez? Congratulations on a big month on a successful month. Maybe his best month yet as a coach much Daniel cormier appreciate his timing. Congratulations once again to potential Fedor veer. Thank you very much Jared cannon year. Thank you, very much sleep coach, Israel, how to Sonya Elliot does ease. And of course suggest. Are you Bank? So you have C two thirty in the books next week. We'll be back talk about you. See Denver, and whatever craziness that goes on in the world of inmate. He missed anything. Check it out I tunes YouTube, Stitcher, all those places more back next week, save time and place.

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"Today's episode of Area Hawaii's. MMA show contains explicit language that may not be suitable for all audiences listener discretion is advised gentlemen welcome to camp back in your life on this Monday September twenty third two thousand and nineteen plugging. Everyone America Honi hope opener doing well happy fall to you. Today is the first day of fall two thousand nineteen and what did you hear in beautiful and Exotic Bristol Connecticut. It's Balmy armie ninety degrees. I think it's like thirty three Celsius incredible. Where else would you rather be than right here right now? What an honor it is to be hosting this? Show for all of you on this great Monday afternoon about so much discuss coming up an entertaining event in Mexico City this past Saturday unfortunately it ended on a bit of Sour note an ugly note case you missed it. Jeremy Stevens your Rodriguez main event. Everyone was looking forward to it. As the people's main event was the main event a lot not at stake it was Rodriguez his first time back in Mexico first time headlining a show in Mexico yet not and around four years and the fight lasts fifteen fifteen seconds accidental poke it seemed like Jeremy was trying very hard to fight through it her being the referee who has been criticised all a year long and often rightfully so I thought handled the situation very well. I thought he was on point. He was calm he was collected and Stevens just couldn't open his left eye and since then when people have been criticizing Stevenson calling him a coward this guy would like what forty or so fights on his pro record the guy who fights anyone anywhere anytime sometimes to his detriment and you're criticizing him. You're questioning his manhood. You're questioning his heart. It's a it's a shameful situation even more shameful is the fact that he was showered like buy beer by what who knows what was thrown at him. People were coming down from the top of the standards at that arena in Mexico City to get had a better look at him to throw things at him. I hope those people on this Monday afternoon Monday morning. I hope those people are embarrassed. I hope they are ashamed. I hope they are never allowed back at any you have see event. I hope they're never allowed back to that arena because no athletes should be treated that way no athlete no fighter no entertainer no performer. Who are you to throw things? I know you're upset. Guess what there are eleven love and other great fights on that card. You got your money's worth all right. We know you're upset. The Guy's not a coward for people to throw I'd never seen like that and we could split hairs. All we want to twenty nine I have I've never seen a seen at event. That was disgusting. That was classless. That was shameful. That was pitiful us any adjective you want. I was embarrassed for those people and I hope they're embarrassed are so themselves so Jeremy Stevens deserves better. Hopefully he's okay. Hopefully he's not seriously injured and hopefully we get that fight in the very near future. Hopefully they just run it back in a month author so and we can find out who's the better man I was looking for to Jeremy. Stevens told us last week that he spent six weeks in Mexico. He's been thirty thousand dollars on this training camp. You Vicky wanted this fight. The last fifteen seconds you think he wanted to just get his show money. You think he was looking for a way out once he got to the cage. Come on use commonsense. Just completely idiotic takes takes. I see all day long enough of it. These are fighters or do you think they're afraid of. They do for a living think. They're afraid they're actually in the cage at this point. Oh on second thought I'd like a way out out come on. Let's do better so anyway that was disappointing but like I said the rest of the card was great. Esparza Grosso tremendous fight the return a brand Marino tremendous tremendous fight every now Donna looked tremendous Stephen Peterson. Where did that come from these seventh spinning backs? Ko and you have see history these are just some of the notable wins or results I should say because there was a draw in their brand Marino which I'd like to see again against Oscar Askarov so there was a lot of course last week as well we had the UFC two forty four press conference Nathan Diaz for Hamas Waddell. A lot of people thought it was a lot of people thought it didn't live up to the hype. Well guess what I told you listened to the reporters on Wednesday that was going to be just that they're both counterpunchers. When it comes to press conferences they're both the kind of guy who likes to sit back? Relax and sort of react to the other but in this case when you have two guys were sitting back and relaxing. You'RE NOT GONNA get a lot of fireworks so a lot of quotes but you got maswadeh. I'll looking like that. You got the great scene gene behind us with the bridge. You Got New York City. You got some questionable questions by media and I see a lot of people criticizing the media like Oh do better. Those people weren't real media. How about we criticize is the people who let those people in the US should do better as far as who they let into these things now in New York mid week I get it? There's not a lot of 'em media there it. It was what it was. Let's not get all crazy. It's going to be a great fight November second and later today. We're going to get a great interview from as well. Let me run out today's lineup so I'm getting all fired up. I'm looking forward to talking to our first guest of the day this one of my favorite lineups of the year and I sense the excitement from view I came into Bristol today fired up. I got a lot to say my beloved buffalo. Bills are three you know. What more can you like? I mean really Daniel. Cormie is going to join us in his first interview since his loss forty one. Is he going to keep on fighting. Is he going to fight steep amiach. How is he feeling these days a month or so later we'll find out from DC in his first interview? I sat down with House Thursday New York City for an interview about his past where he came from. I learned a lot about this man that I did not know before we'll run that entire interview on this show trust me. It's a different look a lot of interesting insight into the man they call game bread the pride of the three zero five Miami Cuba or yes anyway Jack Hermansson is going to join us at two forty five he headlines lines the US's debut in Denmark this Saturday. What a great car this is littered with names from top to bottom interesting fights interesting personalities Mark Madsen a Olympic silver medalist? It's going to make his debut. You've got the return of Nicholas Daulby Jack Shores on the card Landau Veneta MARCECA's. There's a lot to light from this card Saturday afternoon. It's headlined by that man who goes up against Jared Cananea the near. We'll talk to him. Joey Coco is going to join us. You're all very excited about this. He'll join us at around two twenty looking forward to catching up with him talking to him. He's a huge. MMA Fan a Superfan from Cuba and knows a lot about Maswadeh Romero all those guys but it's a big fan you know about him. It'd be grit mentality the the Church of what's happening now. Joe Rogan podcast all that stuff Joey Diaz making his debut on the program. We'll talk to Martin Kampman the face of Danish. MMA for all those years most wins as far as Danish fighters are concerned inside the octagon eleven wins in the UFC have talked to him and while he's going to be a big part of the show this Saturday we'll talk him Leon Edwards. Where does he factor into the whole scenario barrio? One seventy will catch up with rocky Edwards. Is he going to fight for the belt is he gonNA squeeze in there who the heck knows and Jeremy Stevens will join us at one twenty five talk about his eye and what happened in that. I mean event on Saturdays. We have our first guest. is she ready to go okay but first let us go to the facetime machine or skype machine Oh facetime machine and talked to our our first guest of the day she had a massive win on Saturday against Alexa Grasso. A lot of people are mean to her as well but she deserved to win that fight to rounds to one great fight great performance from Carlos Bars. She's he's kind enough to join US right now from. I believe the airport in Mexico. Is that accurate Carla. Why appreciate you doing this very much? Congratulations on the win. How are you feeling physically less than forty eight hours later? I've been better but usually after every fight I get banged up a little bit. my apple roll over on in pretty good would exactly happen to the elbow. Like what kind of injuries did you sustain didn't go and get x-rays or anything or I but it's already feeling a lot better. I've been doing it to me. I think maybe discount like a dislocation. I'm thinking and just kind of like right now. Nothing crazy I know looks pretty gnarly on the video though yeah pretty gnarly I think that's an understatement it was it was shocking. Lucky to watch it reminded me. I don't know if you've ever saw Benson Henderson versus Donald Sharoni one when Benson was like Ben and that's where the name came from. That's what it reminded me of arms aren't supposed host a bend that way. Could you tell us what's going through your mind. When this is happening I mean I was? I knew it was suckered really titanic and I was just thinking like Oh my God like should I tap tap. I was like no no like I was like. Keep wanting twenty something move like trying. I wiggle out like try anything. You can't get out of this and you know. Fortunately I was able to spin out it was still even locked in a little bit after spun out but but you know fortunately how close were you to tapping late super it was it was obviously lots of joint. Have you ever felt anything like that before. Even practice roll like have you ever felt your arm ben like that and the feelings that come as a result no never I've never felt anything like that but in in the heat of the moment you know the adrenaline with the you know just in a fight you know I'm packing always have early but in a fight is one of the things like you know. He just Kinda got. Did she surprise you in the third round because in addition to that she really came on strong like I think there's a case to be made that that if this was a pride flag maybe she would want because they would score the end of the fight more so than the beginning of the fight. Did you think that she was gonna come on based on the first two rounds. Did you think she was is GonNa come on strong the third. I was really surprised I think she was down around you. You have to keep it. Keep close a couple of times but yeah I felt like I had them you know for sure and she just came like a storm that third round to do think that they would score to draw. Did you think that she might have gone ten eight in the third. It's Kinda hard to tell when you're gonNa make you know like especially in your hometown. I never actually knocked down even though she can be pretty close. I was hoping you decisively. You won the first and second going into that third. You thought you had the first two down how I felt yeah but you know just being someone else's hometown you never know but like I felt that I decisively won the first two rounds you know not by the margin that she won the third round no not at all but I definitely felt like I won the first two. What is it like as an athlete you fight your heart out your your arm Ben's that way? You're in pain. You're getting you gain punched in the face of the third round. She's coming on strong. You do rounds you win a fight on enemy territory with the altitude all that stuff and then you have to do with booze you have to deal with people like disrespecting you and you're you're having your moment and you. We know that you're not the fan favorite in that case but it's almost to the point where like you almost have to apologize. What does that mean? What does that do for you? Afterwards kind of broke my heartbeat because I've always been respectful election. I respectfully leading up to the fate I've always kind of had the Mexican fan base land families behind me and just hear them like stone negative and booing me and not letting me talk like other fellings. You know just kinda disrespected EH I. I didn't do anything wrong bad. It's one of the most annoying things about close fights in mixed martial arts situation where the fans may be upset with the judges but they take it out on you in the post fight interview right it makes no sense and then you're left to the deal with the heat and from what I understand I know it wasn't as bad as Jeremy Stevens but the people throw things at you as well as you were leaving think slow down a little bit to take a couple pictures with people I usually do in you know just say hi to people but they were turned. Rush me out of there on my way out woman jumped a whole cup of beer on top of me. You know it was just it was really sad like just to experience something like probably one of the low points in my career. It was a really hard for so you're walking out and they poured beer on top of your head. Yeah it was like right before you go under the tunnel. Donald like some some guy like dunk like like one of the security was with me Kenny trying to cover me and my walk me out in just you know some of the fans were just pretty ruthless. They were yelling things that you as well as you were walking back. Some of the fans were like being pool ooh wanting to take pictures but some of them were just staying me things and bullying and like you said it's not my call you know and not that I felt that I did win but you know they can't. They can't take it on the fighters because we're literally. They're just doing our job and when you have this kind of take away your joy like a big win like I said enemy territory like did not allow you to fully appreciate it. Enjoy the moment afterwards honestly when I went back to my locker room I I just felt really bummed out. I almost felt like just wanting Friday and he died because which is a crazy feeling after a win. You know it's like I couldn't even enjoy just because I like literally just been attacked on a hard feeling feeling even though we get punched in the face every day now if it was just it was hard to take him. Did you see Alexa to the fight no she. She kinda rushed off a pretty fast after the decision that wind to shake your hand you know shoes nothing but respectful. I've had a having gone to see her. I was just wondering because I've seen her say in the post fight scrummage on social media afterwards that she believes she won the fight which has every right to but I. I wonder if you feel like you're not getting the credit that you deserve for that performance. I can see how she feels like that. Especially when you have the crowds so hard behind you kind of you know like saying saying that the decision was bad but I think anyone who's kind of logical and actually knows about this word like knows I mean I think she you know she was down to rally. No matter how much you dominate that's not enough sometimes how was the I was dealing with the altitude. How is it fighting over there? Dan Lewis arrest money even going up the stairs. It's kind of hard but I was training altitude not for a month. It's out in Mexico City for two weeks so I feel that I make some good adjustment but it definitely is hard to put that outfit. I'll a fight linke would for sure so considering that and also the fan reaction afterwards. Do you have any interest in fighting in Mexico ever again the most I definitely would love to fight on here because the fans are passionate and like I said a lot of Mexican band Dan support me but I definitely would not want to come out here in by local again. That's one hundred percent now just because because they're they're very much against you in that in that regard right definitely I mean even if I thought anyone else thinking I'd have a lot of word but it was just it's a rough one. Each fans back fighters still much amazing but it can also be a bad so that's now two wins in a row for you after the loss to titanic Suarez around a a year or so ago. Did you do anything. Did you do anything differently after that fight. Did you make any changes to get back on track here because that's what was your second loss in a row so it seemed like okay everyone talking malar l. or maybe we saw the best of Carlos bars a banal of sudden very impressive victories in my opinion. Did you change anything afterwards. Actually I'm really small for the divisions side chiefs. I started like I n I started like put on muscle. I mean a lot of adjustments to in my training like with my Jitsu. I think a lot of people saw that I lost fights off my on my left and I need that I mean it appoints. It may be comfortable. They're like just get comfortable being uncomfortable big by weaknesses strengths and I feel like I mean a lot of improvement it. Are you surprised that John Way lease the champion of your way class right now not super surprised because I saw her fight in person I saw her face. You should torres. As and I was super impressed because I thought he should know she's. She's really good fighter. things just seemed to come out of nowhere. Just like Lego storm really doc doc like beyond any kind of sport is that you think you kinda nowhere boom is nowhere nothin' cover and do you suspect that she's going to go on a on a long run as champion or do you think she's more of a flash in the PAN armed with her performance day. I can definitely see or being camper wild but honestly when I when I just got josh when I was like shoot. Let me check or not. Doesn't I never know. When would you like if everything's okay with your arm? When would you like like to return? I was named maybe like I'd love to get on that December thirties card or maybe like early January or something yeah that that would be a deal for not hurt Tikolo bedtime off and actually have quantum all right here on vacation and then had to treaty. What are you doing Guatemala just chilling out or something in particular? I am Climate Keno the Waigel Katito volcano some to spend the night up. There were totally in my arms my legs these are good too. It's still K- declined with your arm like that. I mean I think like I hopefully it's all made I have concerns. I mean I'm not trying to you but you know it. Just seems like you might have a hard time gripping things arpaio. Hopefully I will need to like crawl to be lake dog now but I mean I think I can make it work. I tend to be all right. I'm pretty please tell me you're going with someone like you're going with a friend or somebody. Who's going to help you yeah my boyfriend okay good? Please take care of Carlo are do you have concerns that it's like legit injured or you tore ligaments or anything like that what do you what are you feeling right now toward Laghman fine I mean I'm in. I'm not really much pain unless I'm like like bending are like super. Voters honestly kills a lot better than it did. So you know I I think I think it's GonNa be good okay and just curious. Why did you go check? Check it L. like why don't you go to the hospital now in Mexico because I think they're gonNA do an X. Ray and I mean in all reality likes and I'm not going to get a surgery injury like nine need and nothing that's really going to change. I not do that. I've been I've had many injuries over tuning this loudly cube seniors so just time by if my habits surgery that he did okay and last thing thing. I've heard some people say maybe it's time now for Karla rose rematch. Maybe this is the right. What are you thinking? Who Do you want next? You like that idea anything on your mind through all my fights recruiting had like twenty three fights including my tough fighting swing four. I've never heard a remand so I definitely wouldn't mind rematch with anyone are now all for you time. Send them on the audio that were of the one that I want but honestly I'm down for. Whoever I always he's having never turned down a rare so forever because you think she greets in your fight right because you think she Greece in your fight right Claudia? How did you think that she was greasing? Oh yeah like I still don't know the details of it and obviously like she wouldn't facing seizing on but that was I. I've been wrestling for so long. I've been competing like I know when someone's like like sweaty and I know that feeling like my arms terms of displaced living right off. They're like obviously I regret. I wish I would have said something because it's just all here's C. Now if that were to happen I'm I would definitely remarkable and you know it's out there now. I don't think that was the case. It would be the case again by the way how's the cookie situation in Mexico. Did you have any good ones so far. I've only had one one little. Oh that's it yeah. I definitely need to grab some more. There's more like There's more like a different type E street bond funds will like different pastries and stuff are more popular popularized here all right well. The cookies are well deserved. Please be safe out there. Okay don't do anything crazy sie. You've got an injured arm. You were just integrate fight. Enjoy your vacation congratulations on a very impressive win congratulations on winning your first fight of the night bonus. I'm sure that helps a little bit. It is low and looking forward to the next run all right. Thank you very much. Carlos safe travels to you there. She is Carlos bars the first ever are you have see women's Straw champion big win for her her first fight of the night bonus her second performance bonus a big fight for her on Saturday big performance for takedown landed against Alexa Grasso thirty three take downs landed overall in her. UFC clear that type for most in the AFC women's strawwweight division history that's courtesy of ESPN stats and Info Group Andrew Davis providing us with our information each and every week on the program so that was a big performance. That was a big win in the combing event in a matter of moments. We're going to be joined by Jeremy Stevens who competed of course in the main event as I said at at the top of the show an ugly scene afterwards it lasted just fifteen seconds and there was an eye poke. Maybe even two eye pokes. Her Dean gave Jeremy Stevens a lot of time to recover the doctors came in the I couldn't open it appeared to be spasm being they called it off off. The fans are very upset throwing things at the cage throwing things all over the place throwing things at Jeremy Stevens just completely he made a brief comment afterwards courtesy of Care Brian. This is what your year Rodriguez had to say at the post fight scrum about the ending the unfortunate ending to that main event. She's going to keep the benefit of the doubt. Your mysterious only only wants to leave with with with dodd easiest mind with that. I don't know say that no doubt he's minus is him the only him you know he's the only one who knows feels you know I never been puking the I in a fight but I have had a really bad I really bought. I you know on the front five my I was completely close. Night couldn't see nothing but I was willing to keep on going. You know not everybody's the same Idaho he was feeling so complete benefit of the doubt to Jeremy Stevenson. Let's see what happened and he's just you WANNA. Call me in the eye. Let's back from her five weeks in two weeks. Whatever I'll just scratch you rose the one man so that was the scene? Those were the words Saturday Saturday night from both year Jeremy Stevens. UC The patch on Jeremy Stevens left eye and again. I understand why the fans were upset. That was the main event I understand. They wanted to see their guy. You're Rigas I made event in Mexico hadn't fought in ten months last time he fought the amazing elbow like there was a lot of excitement it was it was pretty well attended event. I get where they're coming from. You can't act like that and to be honest. I think a lot of that reaction did come as a result of your Rodriguez is-is reaction I think he was very fired up and get understandably so hard for me to put myself in his shoes so much pent up aggression and emotion and and just like the nerves and all that stuff that energy before big fight you could see he was emotional having family there. He was amped up. He was excited and then the whole thing lines last fifteen seconds. You don't have an outlet outlet. You'll have a way to get it all out. So you're fired up. You're upset you're heartbroken you're mad and so he was mad and I think the fans saw him react that way and then they reacted the way in which they did and you saw him kind of stepped up Michael Bis being and I think that brought him back to Earth there because this big did not flinch credit the him for doing that so certainly and ugly scene. I really appreciate we shape Jeremy Stevens taking out some time. A lot has happened in his life in the last forty eight or so hours and there he is kind enough to join US via skype Jeremy. How are you doing it and most importantly? How are you feeling on this Monday afternoon? Awhile rested Scott home late last night wake up in the morning and scrabble coffee and do the show. How is your feeling is good freak accident like what happened in their scratch? A It is what it is. What I understand you went to the hospital afterwards correct yeah correct they? They want right to the emergency room. Mining Eighty specialists like doc or anything like that yeah it is Russia rights. What did they say about the the the scratch in any kind of injury that you sustained had to scratches on my is just like Oh like a bruise? I guess scratch a bruise laceration what they called it so nothing nothing major nothing. Permanently damage is weird and so right now. Are you in pain or does it hurt to like being the sunlight. How does it feel I haven't really been in the sunlight is kinda? Keep him some ashamed. Shade Don is a big thing other than that I had a they patched up. I didn't want anything like that or anything also saying they patched you know if you go to the doctor your hand messed up of course in a cast told me keep the kids off like twenty four hours and I just took the patch off swastikas on and all so they replayed the sequence a million times. It looked like he actually hit you in the right eye and then in the left is well. Is that what happened were you actually poked in. Both is yeah so okay balls. you know when I went back by by right I was staying pretty bad. You know there. There was scratch on on that is well in it is it is what it is. You know this this weird free thing. I just remember coming down like this like three stooges in his fingers in my face like this. Do you think he did that on purpose. No of course not you know I. I hope people nine for people to nuts on. I've been you know I've had a broken. Orbital is a bad acid. Donald CERRONE IAN was able to fight you know just or than things where you get you get glaze and it's an it's an eye boat. I mean like a paper cut man Shit. The Shit hurts you know when you're is always very sensitive. You know you definitely to is I've I've fought with a rogue normal like I said you know that was that was painful but I was able able to see a little bit of blurred vision but in this WanNa just this is crazy right both is actually you know your hands philosophy closed. This one's anxiety in the fight. We didn't even get started. You know he won kick in you know next thing in overtime to exchange them which one hurt more the right of the left. You know it's the last one was a lot lot more painful. The rival scratched and I I know no like when I got there too and I noticed that when I was trying to rents offense is were burning both both visor burning both my left eye when you're in that situation before they announced that the fight is off. You could tell like everyone's watching you right in there with her dean. The fight just started. The crowd is starting to lose his patients. What kind of pressure is that on you? I feel for the fire in that situation because everyone wants you to shake it off and be tough and just go back out there and fight because everyone paid to watch his main event and they want to see the payoff and you're in that moment where the entire Rina's just watching you and praying for you to get better. Do you feel that pressure. Are you trying to like force yourself to just open your eyes to get better and it's not an it's like this this battle internally with your body like please just open so I can see but also I can't see and I got all these people that are kind of like putting this pressure putting is I'm here. Are you feeling that struggle when you're in there no not at all you know at the moment of this like what the heck is really going on with my. Id Is it just wasn't relaxing thing. I remember the doctor confident until you're relaxed. Some like a wish I could do that. You know what I'm trying to break over here. Same thing you know I got hit the nuts my last fight really hard. I had to take almost five five minutes to to Kinda Ariku on trying to recoup within the amount of time and in recovery which is unfortunate. It couldn't continue I get it you know I totally I totally get it able to see a fight. How did you feel the referee Herb Dean and the ringside physician? How did you feel they handled the situation? Her was a man who had offices telling me that you're like mcdonagh water over here you know he's like the doctors came in and he's like I still have like amendment and a half of my cool lately recovery. Take the full five. I didn't know what what time it was because I couldn't even. I couldn't even see some senator waiting for the for the time inherited a hell of a job eighty dollars or one of the best amber frey is ever in the game on he he truly was experienced. scores wanting free free. Thank we know great so they wave off the fight. I mean did you. Did you agree with it. In that moment like there was no way that you can continue. Let's they give you five minutes giving a little bit more time some water rinse off but you can't do that in a fly just right off ops heads. Let's see if he in seventeen twenty seconds something like that. You know it's it's weird brawl. You know I'm in a fortunate I I spent money can't money's money's money and can coach spend time away from their families up until the the greatest shave ever you know you you know I everybody wants to fight. This fight needs to happen. You know that it's word shaving was just one of them. Frequently little things it's not wasn't on purpose. I know that on Duri fighter you know we need to run this back. We saw the footage of you leaving the cage being shielded by security in my opinion the ugliest one of the ugliest scenes that we've ever seen you have see you're just being pelted with things showered by beer. God knows what else people coming coming down throwing things at you. What is it like for you? In that moment you have any idea what's going on where you hit where you hurt by any of this felt pesos rose and definitely had some drinks before I ended up in the back you know this I expected that from the fans you know whether I win. There'd jerod hostile territory before Brazil. You know whether I would not allow by the worse you know. Is this again people pay their hard earned money to to watch a fight. I knew they were going to be rowdy. I do they're gonNA be on side. you know an unfortunate things. I say you have see the security they did. They did a great a job but I did hear about some. UFC staff that in some other people that ended up taking a few injuries in getting roughed up in her in all Carlos bars which this came out. She had a beer thrown on her. You know that that's kind of a little out of out of the norm. You know that that's that's not cool. That doesn't take away from the time that I had down out there in the people on us when I when I did my camp and and the way that I was treated I you know I don't really want to speak bat on that. You did a great job and security down. They're about keeping me safe and and I was just coming a situation and just because you said that you felt some pesos money being thrown at you coins yeah I mean there was some some hard you know what a beer in pesos or whatever they had. I don't know I I couldn't see man land was down to just fill things by coach ause looking for me on grabbed in right away. He was like we get out of here and he he he do resume. He said that thanks to comment on on this kind of hanging like damn. You don't like I get it. You Guys WanNa see main event. I wanted to fight you know a is my first no contest and I not even know why record by at bright close over fifty five I haven't had anything ever happened like this sucks. You know it's kind I felt bad felt terrible here. I am my company's Reliabi- made event. I perform time and time again and I didn't get a chance to fight. I totally get how the fans would be upset. You know and it's not my out of my control the way they react or what really goes on and you know thank God for my coach teammates. Everybody helped me out the UFC security sucks for some of the people they ended up getting injured sure. Did you see any of his post fight reaction and if so how do you feel about how he handled it now. I haven't seen one of his I haven't seen anything travelling and I just took some time to debrief fuck. I've in the other day we we've got into it at the hotel on China come up and be cordial and he comes up and he's he's trying to talk shit came here to compete in fighting on so I had to shove him back across crossroads ELM and get into it with a little bit so I mean if you're GonNa talk about me. Let's let's talk about. Let's talk about running it back in the United States and like some of the three greatest American American places over here This'll like the other side. No we got Boston we got. MSG WE'VE GOT DC those in three great American places like you're GonNa Talk Audubon me. Let's let's fight. I came here to compete. You know he's in great shape. I'm in great shape. We we spent harder money like let's go came to fight. I came to compete lake a free thing what's fouts back. So where did this incident happened in the lobby and someone that you're saying that this wasn't like the Wayne's or anything this was when you guys were away from the cameras bringing down my back shaking my bags wind Zingo gas and food and then we were taking often comes up like all awkward Lincoln thumbs up like hey everything okay and I comes up like shaved my anthony. I'd be like a gentleman I get it and DOC shifting Roy. You know I'm I'm not from crotty school brought on from the street. I'm here to compete flight. I'm here to kill you. You know so right away. My my mentality was backed up so I shoved him on his coaches. His Dad and his parents never talented. What will you know and I know assessor? Ask footage from them to release footing but they're not going to release it because you're going to cower. They're coming up trying to be a gentleman fortunately that that wasn't it and he wants to. He wants to talk and same thing I I don't know the I air. He doesn't know me you know but I'm not like that. You know I don't I don't i WanNa Talk Shit. Especially after you live oak me. So is what it is. Let's let's let's continue this fight. You know let's let's go to the best history replaces in America and run this back. You know you've got to come to this side and and I wanna find okay so just because this was yesterday Saturday. This is after the I poke that this happened. Wow okay. I thought you meant before the fight is after the flight so clearly bad blood is still there and you just mentioned Boston you mentioned. MSG mention December seventh Washington and Boston is in less than a month. So are you saying that you're okay to return like if they called you today you WanNa fight in three weeks. You're good. There's there's no issues that I can get cleared. My is fine. You know this is one of them. Free treats things happen so you know I I. I didn't know if he's going to be worse or unfortunately I come out on a on a good end. Thank God because is not to play with I'm the best shape over my life. I spent weeks away from from my family to you know I. I didn't come down there for one check. You know that's that's I spent sent that pretty much down down there and take care of this in the best shape over we can come back to the three greatest places in America it right back. Let's let's go if you're going to sit here and talk. Let's let's go back if not the hell out of my way. I'm I'm uncommon. I WANNA scrap. I WANNA move up this. This is my life. Life by career is revenue for years. have any of those talks about running. It back happened already to the best knowledge it got right back to Sean said ain't like I apologize for him off to him today and he's like man. You have nothing to be mad about robot young aw socks basing its you know I was just fill a ton of emotions. You know I mean. I don't want to go there for like that. I know what table pay especially down people are hard working and you know they. They WanNa see me perform. I love to perform. I am a performer when the lights come on. I show up you know and it just I couldn't continue that night you know and let's let's run back immediately texted Sean. We're trying to figure this out. The this candidate Harry is continuing to talk about me well. Let's let's talk about running back because if you're trying to duck and dodge in indep- you know like I'm right here. I'm in great shape. The thing nothing major happened thank God and was right back. Did Sean seem interested a lot. More people are GONNA be interested in this in this fight now. Yes bigger like a checkmate. Money's rise it up. You know now there's more there's more heat. You're GonNa talk in runaway you know I I've never been cut from the US's from back data flights you know remember that you know I wrote them out to. You know like I am I am I am. I cut a night folks dogs lie. It's a lot different so let's let's go. You know you're in great shape. You're you're at the time like let's let's not wasting any time. I'm still ready to go. I haven't I've only eat a little bit of food. I can still make wait this week actually so let's let's continue this considering that reputation Jeremy. What is it like to have people question your your are your integrity say that you quit that you look for a way out that you were scared? Have you seen any of this stuff and does it make you live it. Like how do you react to that considering. You're one of those guys people in the know no that anytime anywhere I mean you like you said you've never backed down from anything and now you have people online questioning you. That's they're limiting belief man. I I can't control what people would people think on half those more than ninety percents don't even fight. It's out of my concern you know. I don't worry about things that I can't control so I I'm not I'm not too worried about people say everything you know the funny thing Israel's Israel's everybody can talk on the Internet. No one's ever literally came to my face Jeremy Steven. You're quitter you suck. You're terrible or any of those negative things that anybody would whatever say you know fibro there's nothing there's nothing that you can do to Herbie that. Should I don't worry about last week. You told us you spent six weeks in Mexico leading up to the fight spent around thirty thousand dollars on this camp for all that to happen to be away from your family and just get fifteen seconds. It's like you don't get that that ability to release the energy. What is it like coming home after all this like without the W. without even being a fire without any bruises on you do feel unfulfilled fulfiled like could you explain the emotions as you came back home after being away from so long and not actually getting an opportunity to really fight? I have to WHO be away from home so did he sold it his coaches soda. My coaches SORTA like my family to come home with a one check buzz not how I feed my family family. Look at me like I'm. I'm in great shape right there. In the best shape of my life. I felt a well prepared so it's an empty failing to come home with one check is just I can't afford that. You know a lot of money scam. I spent a lot of time for download tasks this like it never happened. It's like I just WanNa continue this and get this over. You know what I really WanNa. I really WANNA go up against his kid. compete with them disapprove beat his ass. There's nothing really going to change. I WANNA embarrasses versus kid on WanNa. Get up there and get get after like. Let's let's go you know one. Check socks go you know and I spent I spent a lot of money and time down there. It's it's empty feeling it must continue and must go on show must go on. Well happy to hear that you're okay that it wasn't serious and hopefully I agree with you. It makes all the sense of the world to run back so hopefully that happened sooner rather than later boss. I think any of those cards I've seen a lot of fans in Boston. Who wanted to seize a beat versus Calvin cater? That fight got moved. I'd say want to put that combing event under Wiedeman and raise makes all the sense. I'm sure you don't care if it's main events or you just want to fight this guy at this point so it's stage brother Yes. That's realme back back to America you know the situation reverses more build up. It's like checkmate foresight like okay. You know let's let's let's it's the best thing that can happen now. We're running back in the stays in these satisfied Ito's in the greatest states in America. There's three of them is that Boston is mentioned. There's MSG huge car art and there's DC. Maybe so maybe I could be the ones bringing the trump's in town so let's roll. Thank you for doing this Jeremy. I appreciate it very much glad to hear you're cocaine and hopefully you get that by. We get that fight sooner rather than later. Thanks so much all right. We'll talk to you soon. There is little heathen Jeremy Stevens unfortunate fortunate situation but here we are just finding out that they had a bit of an incident at the hotel on Sunday adding more fuel to that fire so we'll see if the UFC decides to run back all right. We've been talking about the state of the welterweight title Pitcher for the last several weeks as of right now. Nothing really has changed. We know that Hori mazdas hospitals fighting Nathan yes. The whole thing is so crazy by voice just cracked Kobe coming tomorrow. Who's been are they going to fight? We don't know we know Leon. Edwards is ready to go. He's on quite the run so we thought we heard from Colby. Tomorrow's not available right now but Leon is available. Let's talk to him about the state of this way class and the whole mess surrounding the title picture Liane. Thank you very much for doing this. How are you my man? I'm good era. I'm doing great so I'm GonNa ask you a very broad question. I just mentioned might as well as as I mentioned Covington newsmen not fighting right now. The flights are booked. How'd you feel about what's going on at the top of your way class considering the streak that you're on considering how close you are to a title fight yet? It seems like everything's sort of at a stalemate here exactly the whole division. Now is in standby amber to go I am I am how I'm pushing forty five so that's a fire Kobe happening while I'm hearing I'll go in December so you're hearing that that's now dead that coming to new spin is a is a dead thing right now and they're ready to move on. I'M GONNA get guys now. Stalemate Cobb is asking for too much money or whatever isn't i. I put my name hat and tell them I am ready to go. I feel I'm I'm on the second most win streak in division of I believe it is shot next to the best knowledge you putting that out there you reaching out to the understand extend your management has talked to them as well. Are they open to this or are they warming up to the idea of just skipping colby and going straight to you spoke spot them attain for November second in the formatting Saddam. Would you be ready November second and I said yes and gave muscle India's fight Mrs Again Saddam murder for December four in in Vegas the if qualified. I'm the next in line so I I believe I. I should be in December. You know it's been a couple of weeks now that nothing has happened. Are you surprised that they're waiting so long. It seems like they kind of put this this this issue on ice they went and did the Mazda fight. They're trying to do St Bay four December. They did Holloway but like this thing has kind of come to a screeching halt. Are you surprised price. They're giving Kobe such a long chance to come back to the table and not just moving on exactly I asked on doing wave wave colby for for whatever reason more than deserted shot over Kobe off. He's told told not Nessin. That's it. You know what I mean. I I feel my Polish shop especially car. It was the last person to be it may so I've got one back on the back. Do you have any concern that you're being used as as sort of a leverage point here in the sense that they're saying Okay Leon is ready and on standby. You'd better get your act together because if not we're GONNA skip you and go to Leon that there's really no true intention to give you that but because you have a legitimate streak because you're so close to the title shot you are a legitimate threat so you're not really really being considered but you're more being used. Does that cross your mind at all. Does that worry you not really. I don't fall out since you mentioned like I said I believe I deserve the next do nothing my power to get an extra vaccine me so I believe we'll we'll get next hour shop opened in December Camara except the fighting go from that to the best knowledge how close were you to getting the title fight right at MSG because I heard also that they were having issues with so called not being blamed for a lot of this but but he's coming to the table is one. It almost seems like they're working behind the scenes scenes in unison. Did you think you were close to getting it for the card. All those are the former team. So what are you ready for number. The second said absolutely isn't it was between Muscle Kamara. I thought is already thirty some really across to make a final okay. Do you feel like December fourteenth close November second yeah okay all right. Have they given you a timetable like you're gonNA find out by this time. We're GONNA make a decision by this time. They give me a few weeks and if nothing goes often I I'm next in line waiting to hear back from the from the ESPN. Hey about from tamen to see what's happening. I'm staying in gem state ready. I could not give to also offer deserve tall shot. You've given them all content number. Also I'm ready to. I'm fit and healthy. I'm young. I want to see us a number to get into who would even make sense for a number one contender spot against you at this point. I don't know I don't know what it is Liz name yeah. What do you think about that? Good at Optima cat like my game is my is my champion. This is what this is all focused on is to be an accident me. I want to show if they do come to you and say okay. We're going to give it to is like Colby tomorrow. Is there a negotiation to be had or are you ready to go like. Are you all good. You're everything's agree to you. Just need the date not the payment of money I was and is it okay. I'll I'll I won't be ready to go over whenever and not five trump changes now you mentioned that you're in the gym. You're you're. You're staying fit. You're in shape. You're preparing. Is it hard. Is it hard to get motivated to go to the gym like when you don't really know the center may be delayed to January February like you don't really know what's going on. Is it hard to get motivated some points. I truly enjoy training. I enjoy OPTIMA Komo teammates angel on my on he's ready for fighting November and listen join the process like I said I'm I'm still young in the game a lot learning so these guys trying to find out later on I feel I'll be not meeting them upon so I'm I'm enjoying training and and join how much I know you don't love the the trash talk and the theatrics and the politics has all of this turned you off off even more like the fact that you're stuck in this situation. You're that close but you know it's it's the stalemate. Has it turned you off from the game even more so than the times we talked about it in the past Australian. What can I do A- defeat other folks locking controlling of pushing otherwise this game job imagine I was like I said I believe in myself believe madman? Let's get what I can. I'll get there. I know I'm one one that way. If not like I said I just now I will not turn off. I I wouldn't talk show or display. I know you said that. MSG was on the table. I and that's obviously a big deal for any fighter to fight in that venue it ends up going to Mazda and Mazda. All you have the history with the incident backstage in March to you see what has become of him to see that he's fighting for this title that they're created. You know they're creating out of the blue. How do you feel about this? Eric might give it to you. I believe if adrenaline mentally thought CRESA fate tall and baked well. Why would it be my name's Muslim? They will come. You will see when a day comment. That's not man but are you surprised. Is there making this belt that they're actually producing the title Jessa Gentlemen. I'm not joining the shit. I am GONNA fuck out most of the audience they want to do. I'll do I wanted to but just like because it's guys at one seventy do feel like that because historically the baddest man on the planet or the baddest is the champion right so the fact that another titles being created guys in that division. Do you feel like it almost waters downed the actual real title don't Arrow in turn time no dot means nothing that means you cannot tell your grandkids kids are at that means nothing my champion. I won't be able to champion you can create as much as you want. That means nothing in longer is one thing though for the fighters created. I'm just wondering if you're surprised the UFC is making it the w the office yeah I go. I do my job. I get paid and I take my family and I said recently celebrated. Is your birthday correct. Yeah eight nine Aero gain out come on twenty eight wow. What did we do anything special? That's not really what really nothing nothing apart just nothing I guess twenty eight is a milestone of any quite thirty thirty. It's twenty five is a part of my friends my family and really enjoy trying to just keep passing by the way I'm just curious. You know your brothers doing very well Fabian as you mentioned he's fighting in November as you're going through all this does he. He ever tried to recruit you to say like hey. I don't have to deal with this stuff over with those other guys because he ever tried to do that. Sort of thing with you tried to come over different to say like you said is is is so good Arrow. Oh He's like unbelievable. You know what I mean. That's a show wh showed wild wise like more on the biggest Asian like I said. The kid is amazing. Isn't you WanNa do you think he ends up better than you hope he does. I hope he does like I say can could we came from from from the mud Arrow I hope he does. I didn't get too much money as a Canon does this is a Kenyan ago so in conclusion. You don't have a fight yet. You feel like it's close you come Russmann December Fourteenth Las Vegas. You WanNA fight for the belt. You want to get that rematch against him. You've earned it eight Nero here. The Guy Absolutely era I am I am no one else is me or Kamar longest industry guys on turn two records. Just keep winning losing like come on you cannot be to buy this motherfucker year on twenty record is nonsense. I believe I am next in London Kamar Kamar ready and by the way we colby referring to Leon Scott. Did you hear that I'm on social media. Fuck DOC is this Scott mentioned pitchers Scott Africa coming from TV viewing of I fucking cove is ah he's a weird guy. Just different crafts from different across from these people cannot even for myself too a different life and different craft from all these people. I don't even know like I. I understand Marty fake news. I don't really get that one do you. Do you think he's just calling you a different name. I don't know what I don't get out of. The American air not give a shit is a Weirdo is a weird man is cannot even for all right well. We'll see how it plays out. Hopefully we figured I mean they just added the second title fight on Saturday so hopefully we we get some sort of your thoughts on that Bill Yeah Bill arket ready all right. Well thank you for doing this Leon. I appreciate it and happy belated birthday. Hopefully for your sake. You get that title fight sooner rather than later get Ero. I one hundred percent shot. I do think Kobe deserves it as well. I'll be one hundred percent honest with you. I think they've got an interesting scenario. I would like them them to make this fight sooner rather than later and I said that if they do like if they were GonNa make Kobe versus tomorrow at MSG I want them to do versus Tyronn in the Co main in this before the whole thing came about as a number one contender fight because I do think tire and should be considered in that mix as well. I don't know what they're gonNA do now. I do think I will say the go ahead Tareq Pasha. I think what you feel really deserves our show no no. I say you versus the number one contender fight how you versus Woodley if they made Kobe resilient but I do think that Kobe all the blame is being directed him going both ways. Both guys aren't coming to the table so I feel like that's important to note. I'm curious if they do come to you and say all right. We'll give you the title shot. Will he even come to the table. We'll tomorrow even come to the table. That's what I fear for your sake. I believe I believe it will also I not I believe you will more call department. I'm here John Okay well one. It should be no more than one more next is totally fine but one big fight and then you're there or next. That's what I I don't think you should be going on thirteen. Five winning extremes like never happened our leave. The company goes through the I five tall shot. Never how many flights do you have left on your deal anyway. I believe it's one on one or two so you're getting close yeah. I'm up the renegotiation and now for the right five fast before going into negotiations. Oh Wow so this is really important. I mean you could if you conceivably keep winning then leave if you want if you don't feel like you're getting that fight exactly okay. I'm about so the area and I I am I going to hang around and be during. Is there a deal on the table an extension the negotiations. I want to be a champion. That's my that's my draymond. Our Yeah Okay all right interesting times for Leon Edwards. We'll see how this all plays out. Thank you for doing Leon. I appreciate it. Thank Eh all right. The Rocky Edwards interesting spot very interesting little nugget there as far as his contract is concerned. We'll see how it plays out colby. WHO's Mon- Liane Edwards a very interesting time at a hundred and seventy pounds? He certainly is ready and willing. I the very least one fight Woodley fight if they do end ended up going with Kobe versus one fight against Woodley I think would make a lot of sense as of right now. There is no deal with Kobe. December fourteenth is still missing that one title fight that they'd like to add. There's been talk of these stupid. There's been talks of maybe a John Jones fight. Perhaps if the winner of Wiedeman Ray comes comes back quickly it's all very much influx great to get his side of the story way back when our next guest was a top contender at one hundred and seventy pounds he has been in spots where he derailed a guy who was knocking on a title Shot Door Jake Ellen Berger back in two thousand twelve had that close fight against Jake Shields Shield's around a year or so before when he was getting ready to fight that big fight against GSP at U. OF C. Twenty nine he is the pride of Denmark he is the the greatest fighter to ever come out of Denmark. Eleven wins most wins ever by Danish fighter in the history of the U. OF C. The next best only has one and we haven't talked in quite some time Martin the Hitman Kampman who this week I was thinking about as the UFC is returning to Denmark where I should say making its debut in Denmark I thought why not catch up with the face of Danish. MMA Martin Kampman and there he is it's been awhile since we've talked to him Martin so good to see you my man. How are you doing? You're you're you're very good. It's been awhile since we last talked yeah. It's been a while so it's it's been around three or four years since you walked away from the sport before we get to this weekend. What have you been doing over the last three or so years well right now? I just got out of a just got out of training here at the Great Danes in Denmark mark now training great things may Jim got the guys out here standing there watching your show right now that they can face this on the side of the side of the window here so so. I'm a little sweaty no problem then you know if if a man out you know I'll jump in and still get some rounds in. I still get training unlike when I was still fighting but I still get a a slow. Get some training in you know it's enjoy training. Is this your own Jim. This is like a Jim and it's like an association to boy. The setup is different. You know there's not that many gyms that's kind of being run as business. A lot of gyms like association. That's the what are you GonNa get subsidized from the government to have sports clubs for keeping people engaged in sports sports stuff like that but I'm the CO chair and we have great team great. Thanks Jim and and a lot of good guys most most amateur guys but we're we're working a autumn. Everybody's improving all the time and hopefully bringing out more guys internationally in is the gym in Copenhagen no now we're in Windsor okay. How far is that from Copenhagen two hour drive from from forever around Denmark? I would love to enforce. I'm not going to the event this weekend but one of these days that would be amazing. I'm wondering you retired relatively young and we we often see the in flight sports people retire and then the vent the eventually come back just this past week we found out that Rashad Evans is coming back. Have you ever had the itch to come back. Have you ever thought what about it. I'll get all the time all the time I really enjoy fighting you know and out here in Denmark I also do a for some of the commentary concern for via play. Who has the broadcast you have see so I do some of the compensating in Danny so every time I watched the show compensate? I'm watching walking out of their chatterbox. Because I enjoy I enjoy I'm not just a competitor fan and of course all the time but I already made a clear decision to not continue fighting and now I'm still enjoying training very much and I enjoy coaching. I enjoyed helping helping other people or get get better and improving his fighters. It'll this this week in Copenhagen. We have Michael Madsen that I'm coaching and he's he's competing on the on a big spot and all his you've you of Cebu and he say co main event in Denmark so it's a pretty big deal. He's so it's a pleasure to work with him. Yeah the two thousand sixteen silver medallist us as like a five time world's Greco Roman medalists these this is a start and he's he's really improved his game and he's GonNa. He's GonNa do really well you've see how long have you been with him. For about two years serving okay maybe less maybe less speed we met known each other for a long time but there was a long period where he wasn't there what he was still committed to wrestling you know so it wouldn't he was allowed to some may from the wrestling association but he couldn't he still had to focus focus on wrestling when he had the your teen gem chip world championship all this stuff yet to do the restaurant camps and he wasn't allowed to do and maybe you made the switch to full-timer and MMA and stop wrestling completely and the after you really take leaps unbalanced because then he can focus on not just in. I'll ask you know kind of half ass a interests before you know now is focus on the task at hand and now right now. It's his age no and he's made the made to see his first. You've seen here in Copenhagen so yeah. He's he's a really driven and a talented and just he's just thought thought it's a big spot for him. As you mentioned he's not the Komeda then against Danilo Bello Ardo and he's a local guy and I'm wondering is he the only guy that you'll be cornering on this card or did you have anyone else. No all only guy unfortunately well. There's only two Danish guys under the Copenhagen that I I I wanna I want to complain a little bit too. I think could have put some more Danish guys in there. You know there's there's some Danish guys that could have made the shot. You know there's a mess Brunell he was it was a already knew see he's. We're like seeing again Sir Bach also of course there's premier. He's already signed cheap but there's a lot of guys I would have hoped to see more Danish guy on on CNN but I'm happy to see mark of course because I'm coaching and also Nicholas debut was also really look good in his last so I'm really excited for you've seen Kobe Nicholas the other one who was released from the AFC now coming back great story overcoming depression and alcoholism. We spoke to him recently so I'm happy to but I agree with you. I thought there would be more Danish fighters for you when you were fighting and you were you know main eventing and you're a top contender. Did you ever try to push for this to happen happened. Like is there a part of you that says like man. I wish you guys would come when I was an active fighter that I could experience fighting in my home country. I never really pushed for it to be honest with because back then it just didn't seem too realistic. It didn't seem is a very niche in Denmark and it's still small. It's smelly ino soccer and handball and but it's gotten a lot more mainstream attention especially hereafter. Mara got into the sport because he was you know he's a well the owner athlete merger small country so we don't have too many Olympic medalist sports so mb an Olympic medalist and making the jumps in the doing great job in as brought more mainstream attention to choices for. I think it's definitely helping get a if more attention but also now in Denmark. Is Everything Holding Mason of course. It's grown a lot. You know when I when I was there Morgan fighting you know it was tough to get five or go to Sweden it fights. I'd go to England Goto Russia. I travel a lot now. We just had a lot more easier to get an amateur fights here in Denmark we we had located then this week. Here are Jim you know where that was tuned to get fights and and get experienced so it's growing stuff that growing. It's a lot since I started getting into Denmark and there's a lot of people it's done a great job helping in that progress and I'm sure you're responsible for a a lot of that because for the longest time you're the only only Danish fighter fighting in the AFC and certainly the most successful. How big of a deal is this event like you feel a lot of Buzz Frit? Have a lot of tickets been sold. What kind kinda since you get? I think a yeah I live in Copenhagen but I'm definitely a loan. Invent ordering and I feel there's definitely going a lot of bus. That's a lot of the mainstream mainstream media that's that's caught up on inviting stories an open contacted about it because of my history in the AFC so definitely I'm expecting hopefully sold out arena but if not then close to sold out arena I think is also is going to bring a lot of people from from surrounding countries. She'll because we have a lot of European fighters. That's under car so we're going to get an older Jack Ham Manson on on uh on the main event you know he's a great guy two so Lebron come down from the Ole Sweden Sweden and and there's a lot of guys it's GonNa be. It's GonNa be cool that I'm looking forward to it. After he retired. We were called you coaching team. Alpha male and I used to live in Las Vegas as well. Why did you eventually decided to go back home and not stay in the United States? Was that always the plan or did something come up that brought you back home. No I always I enjoy living the US soon but I've had three kids in the US and when you get kids it's nice to also sometimes be closer to your your fam- family relatives and that was part of the recent moving back to Denmark in one of my kids experienced growing up up in the in Denmark and also it's nice to be close to your you know grandparents to take care of released. Oh yes you know you have you. Have you have a kid as well so you know. Sometimes I get a little released absolutely yes. I have three as well and I don't live in the same country as my parents or my in laws so I know exactly what you're talking talking about. It's a nice luxury and so you went back home to start coaching. Is this what you do full-time now your coach at this great Dane School. I'm coach here and a lot of things also coach at our school for Physical Education Converts where I do martial-arts and of course her coach mark who sir fighting this this week area going fight card I have a web shop with my wife and I have a bunch of the different stuff that are this together making taking plenty of time but it's all it's all a big bond together smaller pieces that make uh-huh when you think back on your career what was your favorite moment favorite fight favorite performance favorite moment. Is there something that sticks out above the rest are aw. I don't know if I have a favorite moment you know fan. There's a tough spot but just by I fight winning in the AFC was that's the the big big deal for me because it came on the US coach nation to fight hoping to get five. Maybe on a smaller fight card and then I I I got a fight on WJ which was trying to kind of compete with the seafood came in and spend a lot of money in eventually they didn't stick around. You've see bottom up. I got a tune to find. UFC was really a really big deal for me back then of course every fight I'm thinking the fans so yeah but just getting my my feet get the door morning getting established in the AFC great experience my favorite Barnum in the J. Kellenberger when I thought was massive for you. I still believe you beat Jake Shields. What do you think do you agree man i? I don't know I think definitely did more damage but to be honest with you I was I was really disappointed. In my own performance I thought I fought aw an invite a smart fight you know I thought I could afford fought waste mortar so even though you know some people think that want it I I'm mostly thinking about. I didn't do my best. I didn't find smart and making it too much of a groundfire where I could you know sit a play. I was trying to submit them and playing into Jitsu game. I I just found around a little bit more but you make mistakes you learn from them and that's some of the stuff that I can carry on and show to the guys that I'm coaching here. The retains everything's and also to Marcus who's fighting this week and of course that fight against Diego Sanchez and Kentucky was phenomenal Carlos Condit fights. I mean you have had some classics. The did you ever sit back and watch them. Do you show your kids what what what they're old man. Did you get to educate them now and it's been a while since I watched any of my fights but really will amount that you maybe now that you reminded me. I'll have to go. I have to go check him out again. Showing my kids in all of this is eight so so does he have any sense because you bring into the gym sometimes and offerings Jim but there are dim warned soccer everything out here right they'll do wrestle wrestle with them and stuff like that and on scrambled fight a little bit but they've Judah for a little bit but they're not dividing regardless I was who do they like Peter Schmeichel. Isn't he Danish. He's too old. You don't even know that he is Exon. Kessler smartly was good goalkeepers. Well there you go all right so mark mats and look up for him right. That's the guy this Saturday and another thing about him. We worth you've. CPI This Training Vegas came off for training camp they do those strengthened explosiveness test out there yeah and he took the record to out of is allow for one fifty five when they won fifty five the most tested weight class really this is start. He's a he's just the different level athletes you know when you do the Olympics all wrestling doing your whole life he's and these starting pickup Samson and and of course he's got solid wrestling but sure hands and getting heavy and again sharp and you guys were just in Kazakhstan right. Yeah we just came back from Kazakhstan because United Wrestling will will will championship wrestling was out there and he already committed to to doing some common Sharon worked for him so he wanted to know honor that commitment even though he had to fight sit up so obviously best thing to the fight camera beaches to not go to Kazakhstan at this time when he wanted to it's the commitment so we went out with him. Took some good training out there. It was really good experience to of course all the wrestling there but also to get to enjoy Khazakstan. I bet wow all right well. I gotta say man. It's really great to catch what's up with you. Martin and I'm really happy for your success in that. You're still in the fight game and now producing talent that we're GONNA see on display this Saturday like I said when I thought of Denmark mark I thought we need to catch up with Marin. Kevin and I'm happy that you're going to be there in some capacity and I'm also happy that you have in scratch that itch I respect greatly when a fighter walks way and just walks away and we see too often guys coming back and I understand why they come back but they look like shells of their former selves. I respect you for for ignoring that rich as much as possible and now training guys and giving back so keep it up man continued success good luck to mark this week and we'll be watching for sure. Thanks Earl always a pleasure to talk with you. Yes we'll talk to you soon. There is Martin Kampman stopping by great to talk to the Hitman longtime veteran top contenders had many any great victories over the likes of Jake Ellen Berger Taegu Alvez's Rick Story Palacio Jacob Volkmann Carlos Condit Rivera dramatic February's tells ladies I mean a WHO's who you also great poker players well so great to see him back and looking forward to mark Matson's debut this Saturday. This is a great card by the way sneaky good card flying under the radar like I said at the top some really good names Jack Hermansson against jarred cannon year. We'll talk to her Manson in a bit Mark Mattson as I mentioned Gilbert Burns against Nelson Elson Khalil Roundtree p Nicholas Dhabi John Phillips CR Bahadur Zodda macy's Angelina Landsberg Mark Casey Against Landover Jack Shore making his debut Brand Davis. There's a lot to like all right. There's some of the lineup before we move on to our next. 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God bless the Buffalo the bills they don't need me because they are three now all right so today on the show we have some of the biggest names in mixed martial arts we have Jose mas well coming up we have Daniel Cormier in his first interview since his loss at UFC two forty one talked to Leeann Edwards. Jeremy Stevens Got Jack Hermansson Anson when I put out the lineup though about this particular week all the comments were about our next guest and he's not even a fighter but you love him and and to be honest. It's long overdue that we have this man on the program. He is a comedian. He is a podcast. He's an actor. He's a host you know him from the church coach of what's happening. Now you know from the job experience you know him. As the incomparable the often imitated never duplicated the pride of Bergen County the pride pride of Cuba the pride of Colorado the price of a lot of things the Great Joey Coco Diaz on the program Joey. How are you my man good my friend how are you? I'm doing great. Wow what a response to you being on the program people flipping out people so excited. I never seen anything like this before you our beloved. Did you know this. I I hear it. I hear it but now is this mike well. I feel like you're being a little humble. Well like I said it's that's right and I appreciate you downloading skype. Is this your first time doing a skype interview before Yup just for me. It's free you will joe. You're great man thank you I appreciate that the skype is kind of going in and out of your way. I want to hear this from you. Should we reconnect with Joey because this is going in and out. What should we do okay Joe? We're going to reconnect with you. Stand by okay because the skype is going in and out there and I wanNA. I WANNA get joey. You know these days as the facetime has been a lot better than the skype if I'm being honest. I'm not trying to pit the two between each other but I'm just saying it's been a lot better corporate. Jake tells me I can't do it. There's there's a whole big problem back. It's mad at me. It's a whole do a whole to do. All right. We're going to reconnect joy is a lot of you very excited to hear from him. After Joey Diaz we're GonNa talk to the Great Jack Hermansson who of course meets jared cannon year this Saturday in the main event of that show in Copenhagen after that we'll hear from Sudan sat down with him on Thursday before the press conference in New York at the get up studios in these South Street seaport in Lower Manhattan and then we shall talk to Daniel Cormie as well in his first interview since UFC two forty one so I'm looking forward to all of that also in addition to the Denmark hard by the way it's a loaded weekend of action. We've got the bell tour doubleheader on Friday in Dublin Bell Tower Europe. It's one of those weird ones where it's like. A bell toured Europe and also bill twenty seven. I don't really understand how they break this down but but Benson Henderson versus myles jury is I think the headliner it's a little confusing but it's in Dublin. There's a lot of local guys the you all heard from James Gallagher is on the card or I should say James Gallaher. His opponent had to pull out last this week but they were able to find him a replacement and then that's on Friday but then on Saturday it's the conclusion of the first round of the Bell Tower Featherweight Grand Prix built or to twenty-eight Patricia pit bull against one or two letter Leona machida against Giger Masasi to Darren Caldwell gets Henry Corrales. That's a great fight I saw Rogers against Daniel Vital Georgie honey and against Jay McKee and AJ McKee is the son of Antonio Mckee and his dad it is fighting on the prelims father son on the same card. Isn't that insane that hasn't happened very often Antonio Mckee legend of the game now trainer coming back fighting on the prelims on the same card as Sun Twenty eight six thousand two Antonio Mckee. Aj exile also on that card who else does a bunch of names there the android go sean bunch. That's interesting one so that's Saturday in Inglewood up to no good good California and then Friday is the to twenty-seven what else is on this Belto Europe card Richard Keegan he league gets Michael Vana page of course Peter quickly returning that card has kind of been ravaged by a all kinds of injuries and cancellation and so they've had to cobble it together and then the twenty-seven card has keefer crosby on it will flurry France Mambo Bowl and then much local guys on the undercard as well also in addition to all of that cage warriors. Is this weekend cage warriors one. Oh seven seven. There's also an elephant card. Elephants future somewhat in limbo after the sale of access TV but they are putting another card been talking to some people about that as well so a lot of a ton of Emma may going on this weekend. It never ends. It never stops what's going on with my guy. What's going on Wednesday? Okay what's happening on Wednesday. You said Okay you want me to promote air around the bad guy to have anything to there it is right there all right everyone say I on the bad guy and ESPN plus on the platform that we built shale NI- with our own hands are far shoulders by the way how `bout NFL primetime getting on ESPN plus these days isn't that incredible. I actually go out and watch it. ESPN PLUS is the place to be so yes every Wednesday show some love Jalen. I doing our show area on the bad guy. It's tremendous as Joey has is likes to say it comes out every Wednesday at around six thirty seven. PM also do mayor reporters everyone say what did you say corporate jake no problem I don't I never know when you're talking to me. If this is for the world to hear or should I relay this message also let you know by the way that next week we are off because it's Russia Russia. It's the Jewish New Year and so last year we did a show on the Jewish. New Year was on a Monday again. I don't know how it happened. Two years in a row. Oh and I felt horribly guilty but I was new at. ESPN and I felt like I couldn't miss it but I said to corporate Jacob New York Rick at the time back when they were friends and working together that I will never do this again because that's that's one of the holiest days for for people so I decided that this week will be obsolete off next week will return the following week all right. I'm told facetime. The always reliable is working much better than skype. Let's see it Joey Dee as are you there my man Joey. Can you hear me okay okay. Let's see if this is better where you doing this from a cave over there in California. What's going on our house our WHOA fire? It's all good my man well. I appreciate your saying something. You're you're sharing with prey so I didn't WanNa miss that I said that I love what you do that you've been doing this is day one on on your own you as you have gone and got the best in the business. I watch your show. Whatever I can appreciate that and I know no? You've you've had my back as well so that means a lot coming from you joy. When did you first fall in love with them and may we we c talking about all the time but what I ju- you to the sport and this is so but Chris Lebanon really why that one it? It just happened to come on as I was watching. TV and I never saw anything like that before in my life and I dug into it now I love it. Was this before you were friends with Joe or after I was friends we're GONNA pretend in years and I would hear about this nonsense. I grew up on Bruce Lee and karate schools. I knew nothing about you Jitsu and not in so M Andy Eddie they'd be like whatever you know because I saw the first couple of fights the guys looked like me like they were begging out of shape and I thought it was barroom brawling but then once I saw have to send started watching other fights I I became a way everybody else and I've seen clips. I've seen the gifts of you in the karate guy. Is that legit like. Did you really practice karate back in the day from seven to sixteen and from twenty five to about thirty okay. Why did you stop at thirty now because I got into drugs and comedy fair enough and have you had hours? I go ahead now. I go to tie twice a week. I'm fifty six. I left and I try to get a role in once a week on the Lord's what's Day wow so. You're very active so yeah. I gotTa roll brother. I gotta be top of it. Wow you have a six year old. Is that your only child. That's all you need is one look at the budget. I like it so you had a kid at fifty years old. Well done something guys fire their wives look the receptionist and get a quote that not many I thirteen years. I knocked my wife up okay and do you let your son watch your comedy stuff and listen to your podcast or not quite yet by the book succeeding curving the House no alcohol in the house she goes to tie. I wanted to have a different childhood. I hadn't New York City running around like a savage average so we're out here in California. Everything's very nice. No drama and I like it that way. We say no cursing at the House I mean you're sort of infamous for your cursing. It's sort of second every third word on your shows his at home nothing nothing laughing because it's it's servicable. Whatever that word is irreversible? I learned how to curse at my mother's bar. When I was her age you know and then being an immigrant you come white kids? Don't show you the right words they show you curse words first and then they show you the George Washington the name but usually teacher curse words so it stuck and here I am fifty six years later and so. Is this how you know so much. I've heard you you talk about the immigrant mentality. This is where you learned it from. Absolutely it's a immigration tally is like this you have to be better. Your parents raised you to be you have to be better than the white kids and at the same time with this pressure at the house you have this security. You don't know the language people are looking at you know so that's how I have to say my favorite clip of yours like I watch time and again just to put myself in a good mood. Is You Joe Watching Eddie Alvarez Against Rda that to me is the all time great. That's the best one by far that moment of you just getting all fired up and talking about Philadelphia whereas Conor McGregor now I mean that was just incredible that passion that excitement excitement. You know what I'm talking about. Isn't it amazing. I love her. I Love I love and I love the direction. You have seized on back there again. We've had a couple of good cards last couple cards. No drama great sportsmanship and I applaud Dana for November second for the belt. I think it's a great idea. It's GonNa be a great fight and it's it's a fight for the fans. Finally it's not tape of us and it's not about throwing things at buses if you're a fan anime you're gonNa Watch this so I'm excited about this a fight coming up. I feel like you really don't like honor the Uber You bring them up you into subtly. Why don't you like this man? I love Conor McGregor. I Love Gregor. Ah love his range. I loved his personality. I'm you know Irish and Cuban a very close. We got close during the Battle of the Boyne a sixteen hundreds as there was a war and all the Irish went to Cuba because it was a Catholic country I love my wife is Irish. I Love Everything about Colin Gregor. I think that when he got into name it changed a little bit too much and now back to leverage acting acting Kim and Rasi through offer a bit but now we're back on even ground again and I hope it comes back and listen great fights waiting for colonists so no I have nothing against. I just didn't like the antics that were on for a long time but now back home. He knew it's interesting when you go back and watch that clip of you reacting to win. I don't know if you remember this is kind of Gregor now and you kind of predicted that if he ran into Eddie he would get smoked of course. We know what happened so that it's it's Kinda crazy to watch that clip several years later. That must have been shocking to you. You seem very convinced that Eddie would steamroll enroll him. I thought either at your whatever would stain roll him but like I said when you fight conor it's it's half as on so much mental yeah when you go into the when you go into the APP got your head space has to be in a really good replace. You can't get intimidated. You can't let the height get in there. I think that's what happened but I think that's what happened to a lot of his early. Fighters Peter's they let connor massively. There's that's Kinda does the best is get into your head but that could work with you or against you in my neighbor next call listen on your way that works with you most of the time but on the other and it works against against you sometimes but not Kinda fighter and I love what he's done for the USC but there's been we've all had moments. I love John. Jones don't hate what's happened with him but I'm a tremendous fan of John Jones and a dear friend so your dear friend of John Jones I love with all my heart comes to Mexico. He comes to the shows. I knew him before he had the title are used to call them. Fear of a black landed obligate every go when you see John J-o-h-n just call them fear of a black planet got it John Jokes okay. You guys just chill out together. I've never seen a map okay spoke for him and then I went to the club and Albuquerque last year and he showed up on Friday night looking tremendous and we spoke and I gave him a hug and he he's a gentleman we we also gone down to Jackson's camp and hello my next venture is at and T. to say hello okay okay you know of course we know at at at. At there's a very proud Cuban fighter there you are of Cuban descent. What is it like for you to see see what is become of Mazda skies exploded all of a sudden going through this year I mean he was just a good fighter the hardcore neum now he's a mainstream star when loves them Cuban Jesus? He's got the the beard. He's got the scarface outfit. What do you make of what's happened to to Hora Jorges coming through zone? The Prime Ammann's prime is between twenty six thirty to win somewhere along that route you find yourself as a man and as a fighter and when they both also meet or whatever you are as an announcer comic at that point met George is a different person when he makes me very proud. I was a fan of George fifteen years ago because tournament is corn amendment to be yelling in Spanish pitch methenolone guy at Paso that means smack them in the face and I would sit there at home howland saint myself. You can't smack people in the face it's USA. That's been tally of the Cuban. He would say mentally guy at that so that's why he talked how you know I chill means that when you say talk that means to touch somebody that's lose corner and I'd be laughing. Nobody else would catch it and that's how I reached out to him. In power and the we became friends live and would it be safe to say or safe to assume that you're rooting for him on November the second I know I know you like Nathan as well I got I got a big problem here. From Spain Yup my cousins has decided to jump off in Cuba but nick his family said we're going to go a little farther and they went to Mexico and then they shot up wherever I live from nine zero nine up there so nate Diaz is the man I I bet late Diaz against Canada I talking just because his Jitsu skills and I know what it takes to digital black belt and I fall unloved. I've never ever met nate never met nate my life. I was very proud to seek that he had lowering Russ against this. It's he looked great and I think like I said this to me is the best fighter the last five years because it's the fans it's not about paper view. It's not about drome bottles. It's just about the fans and at both acting like gentlemen I saw a picture tonight out at one eighty two afterward and I am this fight as a as a friend and as a gambler. I'm not gonNA got a better. I'm just GonNa sit watch and enjoy like really. USC Fan. Do you bet on a lot of fights. I bet on the ones I know I can win. Yeah okay all right. When's the last time they won? The biggest one was laid. I Have Frank E. The against years ago against one of the guy what he fought the three times I I better rate remain the second fired or something I took my wife Joe gave us tickets and was the last time I put one and I don't remember okay but I usually don't Beckham about 'cause everybody's focused on the main more than these dating. Nobody has a crystal ball as usually good fighting the prelims or the undercard that you could make some money on so if there's something I really I I go after it but I'm such a fan that I wouldn't WanNa ruin it for yourself like I did when I was a kid football and I ruined if the myself with not Europe Street I WANNA watch it as a fan so I'd rather not waste money on it. Yeah you mentioned the fight. You love the title. Is there a part of view. Are you like an old school guy where you're like. They're making a fake title here this you know this this is. WWe Like does that bother you or your all in on this you love it not at all this is not wwe. I think this is brilliant of the sport. I think every once in a while two guys it doesn't mean everything about this. Let's just get guys that WANNA battle it out. I mean I don't WanNa see Shawn beat up the Russian check. My heart began up. Nobody wants to see that right but I wouldn't mind seeing a couple of different. You know let's take the chance Columbus dead you know maybe Feed Bay drop down to something and John Jones go up a little bit and it doesn't mean nothing to your rankings. I would like to mix it up a little bit. Yeah you love Steep Pitch Steel Pick which I love St Bela Frankie Edgar Cowboy you know I can see that the next fight McGregor the easy option for the UFC would be either. Somebody like cowboy was had to fight losing losing skid and he looks like an easy prey or Frankie Edgar. Both of those guys got a good fight left him. You know poconos is is or you know when you fight McGregor. You'd rise for Kinda McGregor you get you get knocked out because kind of touchy with that left or you could take into five rounds or something but I'm also excited for Communists next move because it's gotta be Dustin Okay Kuei Justin or just pick out one fifty five to one fifty five the visualization the NFC east healed day. You had the skins you had the eagles and you had the giants and the cowboys and Ukraine. Somebody didn't pull a Lotta Gun. You pray that somebody didn't pull out a gun like where's John Riggins. He might on a gun like this is what one fifty eighty five is become. Just engages exciting will wait to see what could who is gonNA. Do you know Dustin Corey. Whoever Dustin Ankori fights next expect brain damage your this fantasy expect the ball learns language? I feel bad for whoever fights Dustin Poirier next I love this. That'll I'm very excited for the one fifty five division. I think John Jones is cemented for five steep as back what I like to see him and Daniel. Maybe maybe not AH maybe maybe I'm a big fan of Daniels and I'm a big fan of St pay so maybe maybe not one eighty five. I'm excited for my man whitaker when he comes back so the USCCA exciting again. I'm excited I rented rocked persona how to pay okay for you even though I had to pay for ESPN five I like it. I don't care you're in all right. We appreciate Your Business. Thank you it has has to be. It has to be against bill right none of this other stuff. It has to be Ferguson Vive next right. Well listen giving me. I WanNa see me like three other Fan Habib against the cooling. Yes that's the obvious choice. DSP's raising his hand. I hear rumors about Gig speed you that again that is do dat. Let's give that up. I if nobody wants to see that yet we we WANNA see the Kuwaiti about against B. But could defiant. I'm a comic. I don't make money home. Oh cracking jokes in the mirror right so he's got to fight somebody. He's a fighter. Butch trucks could always push ups as we speak you know so if you're at the USC by the way what did you make of Moslem is with US outfit at the press conference. Did you see that Tony Montana outfit that he was sporting listen man. He's like out in a Lido's way in the beginning doing what he said. Oh I'm Katherine back. He's he's on fire these days then he shows up in Mexico with a Sombrero and the the bullets. Did you see that as well. The guy is just using our cheese mall right now yes and hit an emanate a donor great gentleman nobly stainless to each other and when you happy happy when you're smiling that's local Cooley. He's in there doing the Mambo on the mock arena. This is tapping you ABC's again you know and I'll have to clinch might festival when I'm watching them sweating so I'm very excited about the next couple of months to see what happens the back do. I WANNA see speak to be watch it but we all rather seek to be in Kuwait and get this. Who's WHO's your favorite of all time? Favorite side of all time to guys like cried. I saw get knocked out a couple of times as chocolate del Wow. I don't like to see I don't like to see I love this so much. I don't like to see him. Fight live. When my friends fight live? I cannot go to the fight because if you think what happened was bad I will throw chairs. I will go. I'll get a heart attack right at the garden at one of my friends. You know I can't do it when I'm attack somebody like that. I don't WanNa go to bites. I'd rather see it on TV because if he does get it my New York City Cuban Jersey Santa Rita sex scene on line one fat leg trying to climb over the dude is trying to push me back. I can't go see my friends fight so by the way can ask. Why do they call you mad flavor flavor? That's the name biggie smalls gaming. Did he really give you that no group amazing. How much do you enjoy podcasting casting you love it? You seem like you have a great time. You're one with action. Bronson was a great one one of my favorites we had him on the show last week as well. I love hearing you guys write about food. Yes no I love podcasting. I love what it's become. I don't love that. Take hold things against you that you say that because it's not I'm not being judged judge. I'm not being you know that work. That's why the five cats because I enjoy being free talk about whatever you know but besides that I love podcasting it keeps you work. It keeps your heart out there. It's like riding. The subway in New York should tune which what's really going on. You know so I you talk to the people and so you're doing that. You're doing quite often any any comedy specials coming up any movies coming up. We'll see more of you. You know what man when it comes to comedy specials. I'm no good. I'm no good uptake. I'm better live live on the savage. When I'm alive and I got I got the podcast will do? I've been working on a one man. Show at the comedy store Los Angeles. I'm rich cargo this weekend at the Chicago data Friday night so I'm always busy. I'm always doing something plus. I got the six year old. I got the PTA meeting Wednesday night. You know all that stuff you show up to those things. Do People know what you do in your in your your day job. I look very gluten free community over here. They looked at me and they think they think Donmar John Gotti's nephew. They don't say much. Let me go prepared to these things when I go some parents average speak to me. Some parents look at me but I don't care I might I'm trying to try to raise it so it doesn't matter what they eh you know coincidentally. John Gotti's nephew John Guiding the third is is a pro fighter. Did you know that he's doing quite well. He is yeah he's undefeated. He's good so they just think of that. Yeah who punched against just going reads on me. I'm going down getting beat up one way or another Roman. You're by the way when I was talking to action. He told me like when he's performing. He's in the back watching the fights. He's doing everything like he surrounds everything around like he the fights it's our thing and then he works around to do the same like when you're out on the road and you know there's a big fight. Are you watching them as well backstage in your in your dressing room all that stuff I try everything anything I can't you know with my luck. I always get booked and then the big fight comes on on that day. Obviously I have family out out there that I want to go see on the roads so I'll do anything I can watch the fight at the club. I'll call a week before walk out. Pay For it myself. I'll do whatever I can't always. There's always a dish washer away to was somebody at the event. It's a fan by myself watching together. I don't like watching a fight after it's on right yeah no because what happens so ways yeah I can't well joy. I gotta say this has been a huge honor for me. I know you're very much in demand and you speak with such passion and I think you represent the fan when you speak about the sport and the fights and your excitement is contagious. It's really just a lot of fun to see you react to it into talk about in your podcast is very entertaining. I mean I was really blown away. I know you're very famous. I know you're very popular but to see all these fans so excited for you to be on the program really warm my heart so thank you so much for doing this and hopefully we can do it again soon. I wish you nothing but the best to your family keep doing your thing my man and continued success you you and your family. It's essential my love. I will thank thank you joey. Stay black brother are my man all right Salaam Aleikum. Thank you very much. There is Joey Joey. Coco says says wow what a legend a living legend joining us on the program. That was a lot of fun. I appreciate his time busy guy but definitely check out his podcast if you've never heard it it's the the Church of what's happening now. His twitter feed is hilarious as well add. Matt Flavor gets you a very very pumped up for the day very excited for the day so keep it up and check mighties in Chicago this weekend as well and I think he does a phenomenal job with his stand up so well done joey. Thank you very much for joining us okay. Let's go back to the Copenhagen Hagan Card this weekend. The main event jared cannon near Jack Hermansen huge fight in one hundred and eighty five pound division. Let's say hello now to the joker for himself. One of the breakout stars of Twenty Nine Thousand Nine Hundred Jack the joker Hermansson. I should say jacker you are great. Thank you for having me when you have you have to emphasize her man right not just Herman. It's Hermansson exactly okay. So where are you right now jack a aw home here in Oslo. Norway's also know when you go to Denmark at tomorrow tomorrow. This was the one you wanted right. You just wanted to fight on this card. You've been talking talking about this for quite some time. I know you wanted the card. What about the opponent? What did you think when they gave you jared Kenan near? He wasn't my pick you know right so hard artes together Kelvin guests and I know that the UC really tried to to engage him and we really make him to take take the five bucks he. He said he's not ready for this date so he could make it happen so I just asked who's next in line and they said the Jerry and I said all right. I WANNA be fighting here here. At home. I WANNA be fighting in my and backyard and the end to be the main invent the Copenhagen so yeah I got to roll with it and the consideration of both the could have been happier with open a were you aware of what jared has been doing has been somewhat on your radar eight are once you were offered him. Did you have to go look them up. I knew who I knew that he he was coming from behind. You know with a lot of hype than the greater middleweight so our suspecting that they were gonNA offer me to the best of your knowledge. Did they actually go to Kelvin offering from this and he said no yep I I spoke briefly over the Internet with Kelvin as well and and he said that he didn't want this day T- wanted the five they wanted later this year. not dissident okay so you actually were deemed with him or something you we. It was an open conversations throat something you know I really try to you know call him out. It's a little bit and it and commented on some post and so it was not really conversation but it was clear that he wanted to five bucks. They're not not on this date okay and for you fighting and company I mean you have ties to Sweden ties to Norway. Obviously why did it mean so so much to to fight in Denmark just to be close at home almost every fight I need to travel far and the I- it's a enemy territory as is a nice feeling to to to be fighting close to home where a friends family and fans is going to be able to to see me live. You've and I want to grow into the role of the leading martial artists hearings can maybe I you know especially now. sent her step down so think it's time for somebody nobody can take over the throne man and I think that has to be mean so I felt that this may event was made for me there. I obviously don't live there but I'm just wondering is there are a lot of buzzes the first time you've see when they go to a country for the first time usually it feels like a really big deal and we were just talking to Martin Kampman. There's only two Danish fighters on this card so I feel like they're adopting you as one of their own. Are you sensing a lot of big deal or do you think you'll you'll you know a lot of buzz for this or do. You think you'll only really feel that. Once you get there tomorrow. it it. It has been some bus but the I'm looking forward to see how the the vibes are. When I get to Copenhagen then I expect there's going to be a great show and the and the community we will enjoy this? Has Life changed at all for you. Since you be jock rate you notice. It's a difference yeah I do it. It's a little bit more. people are recognizing you. You WanNa you get a little bit more media attention than the and so on but the my life looks pretty much the same you know I'm training twice a day and eating sleeping and that's what I do so I don't see too much you know I don't know if you saw this interview that Jacques did recently with them. May Find Dot Com talked about dealing with depression after the loss and being very emotional afterwards. Do you read that and if so how do you react to that knowing that you're like it was because of your now that you have anything to feel bad about her feel guilty about but just that he was reacting to something that happened in a fight that you were involved in. Do you have any reaction to that. you know I can relate to that and I really felt reject after their fight a really understand that he was really really close to to the ultimate goal and and he has been in the game for such a long time and he was so close to get title shots and the then I'm coming from where and the and the destroys that so I really feel with him and the and the understand the feeling so but on the other side the the you gotTa do this in this game so you can't show mercy when it's time to fight you say that you can relate to him. What do you mean by that abandon similar experiences I remember after I lost to Jerusalem? Those were really really felt like yeah. yeah I felt like shift words. When I got home I will see the state that the probably never have been in other situations felt the super I could look into a wolf for several hours without moving without the been able to think type of emptiness and the the test to be some kind of depression so I can relate to that feeling after like how did you snap out of that? It was hard because I felt like the only way I could snap out of it was to get back banning and to continue to grow but I I was injured after the fight so it really took some time before could train properly again and that's really helped me back act like six months later AL's able to train appropriately again and and the I started to feel a little bit better so yet to get back in there with new goals and the and get back in training. I think that's the best medicine and let's see January is going up away class and has new fight so oh yeah I'm happy and interestingly enough since that fight you have not lost and so I'm wondering if that feeling that you experience afterwards afterwards fuels you like that is part of your motivation for not losing for for not feeling again. Do you think about that a lot. Has It stuck with you what I did after that fight was that I got a mental coach so since that FIFA I got the mental coached and the I learned to a have both to be better prepared before fights but should should think like that happened than than I'm prepared for that as well so I really feel much more comfortable now going out there and the and I feel like I'll able to perform closer to my ability itself working with him so really recommend that to everybody that's struggling with preflight nerve Arab sort the persons off defied so mental coach assists is great if you can't find a google. Do you still work with him. Yeah I do. I just had a meeting with dimmer like a one hour ago. Wow in like this last meeting before the fight. What are you working on? We're talking about preparations for the fight week and making taking shortcuts up with the older stressful things away that everything is prepared for me to go as smooth as possible the things that I'm going to be thinking about on fight week and the issue is Asian and so on so I wanna be as prepared as a camp for the week ahead them what's coming in. Did you suspect that for as long as you fight you'll work with someone like this absolutely but the work was more intense than the stark and they'll I have learned to muster muster many of the techniques that we working with so we're not seeing each other as often as before but more like it briefly and these reminding me of a couple of nothing send the and so on site. I believe I'll continue to talk with him about the nuts not as much as in the beginning you talk to him before the fight at all or or was it. I think this was it but he might have made that. I can call him anytime. A fight should need anything so I. It's a security for me. If if I need us and just curious because I'm fascinated by in this in this winning streak was ever a moment like the night before fight or the day of a fight where you felt you really needed to talk to him and you and you call them once. I can't remember but I don't think it was. I like acute situation or anything like that. I just I think that we had a shot at the hotel room and the it just reminded me out a couple of being said I need to think about so. Usually the work is don before I travel and such a big difference for me right now I am I am before so it's even hard to put words on important that because before me so the winning streak now makes sense ever since you started working with them. You're undefeated four. No one of those wins came against David Branch. Did you hear last week that he's been suspended the two years by Asada Yeah. I think that's my second appeal. I think Bradley Scotland suspended as well so I got two of those guys right now. Did you suspect anything with him with when you fought him I mean it was a short fight but did you did you think of anything like that. No you know I'm very careful about the judging people from the performances or deluxe or anything like that I think ever a little bit to talk to you but when it comes to mentioning people name seeing the in doping situations so auber careful with that you should not take anything from anyone that especially if they hasn't hasn't proved guilty also so right now one eighty five is very interesting because pollock Pulkovo. Excuse me had that big win against your Romero back in August and you're having this fight so close to the middleweight title fight which is in a week from your fight October fifth costs us says he's flying out. There says it he's been invited. I know you think if if you went on Saturday you should get the next five. What do you think do you think it's going to be costs a I in? You're probably going to have to fight someone else this if somebody's injuring themselves on probably the one getting in there because cost I won't make the way the I if if it goes like scheduled at believe Costa as the next one you know he's on the heated and the big name and a lot of hype so but I'm happy to have a elimination fight with him if they want to. If not the I will wait for my turn but I know that I will fight for the title eventually and But definitely it's. It's me or cost for next time so I if I beat can on there. Are you saying that you're going to fly to Australia after your fight in Denmark to be standby fighter. Is that what you want just if you would ask me to okay. They haven't though right okay this time next year. Have you fought or will will be on the verge of fighting for the title yeah for sure that's online. That's my goal and that's my vision next year. I'm going to be the USA championship man a I think it's realistic through to think in the end of next year there will be a possibility so yeah. Let's see my mind all right well. The next step is Saturday against jared cannon near by the way congratulations I think you recently signed a new contract with. UFC correct that's correct well done yes well done so a a lot of exciting things for Jack the joker Hermansson and they continue Saturday on ESPN plus against Jared Cana near main event in the first ever event in Denmark. Thank you so so much for doing this. Before you fly out Jack I really appreciate it and all the best to you on Saturday. Get so much aerial speak to you all right there. Is the joker always smiling. I love that Guy Guy always in a great mood always happy and what a fascinating story about working with a life coach great stuff there from Jack Hermansson. What did you say Corporate Jake? Did you say something to me. Okay so should we wait. Wait now right okay but of the a change of plans if you will we're going to actually be joined in a couple of minutes by Daniel Cormie and then we're going to be joined or we're going to air interview with whore. Hey Maswadeh so five minutes from now we'll talk to Daniel Cormet and then will air at the Mazda del interview I appreciate everyone tuning in our show by the way don't mention it enough on the the live version of the show the show does rear actually doesn't rear like a one a one our version of the show a cut down version that corporate jake and the rest of the team back their work on airs usually at around midnight on ESPN two but there's some new elements to it that don't air on this particular my turn back the clock segment which I like very much in in this particular week we look back at the seven spinning back fist knockouts in UFC history and I didn't know this I don't know if you guys news but the first ever spinning back fist this knockout and UFC history was by schone Carter Mister International. I had no idea that he fought against the guy who is on looking for a fight now with Dana Dana white friend on looking for a fight was actually the guy in the fight against schone Carter. I had no idea why didn't anyone tell me this. That's one of the best but of course it ends with the Steven Peterson knockout on Saturday which was actually a counter to a spinning back fist from Martine Eighteen Bravo counters it and nails him an unbelievable turn of events. That was a fun car on Saturday. I enjoyed it. You didn't Aldana looked phenomenal. Maybe her best performance to date in the UFC couldn't help think of Henry Pseudo as I was watching Brandon Marino people like to laugh at Henry so who know pseudo people like to call them cringe and make fun of him and all the stuff none of this would be happening without him if he would've lost to T. J. dillashaw on January nineteenth of this past year in Brooklyn. There is no flyweight division. It's dead like I don't think enough people realize this and there's a very good chance at Henry's bruce who'd never fights again at one twenty five that way cut takes a lot out of him had he lost that fight to Tj. They closed up Moreno himself himself had been released went to Ella fe brought him back Nave Got Kaikoura France Sergio Pettus look great in his fight on on Saturday and return to one twenty five. There's there's a legitimate case be made that if it wasn't for that one particular win and in everything that he did leading up to that fight and everything that he did after that fight in the build up to that fight there is no one twenty division anymore isn't that amazing the guy singlehandedly and I know he currently he's on the longest victory tour of all time every single event whether it's an Abu Dhabi Mexico God knows where I mean he's probably GonNa be Denmark this weekend. As well every single event it seems like he's they're sitting in the front row huffing and puffing with a a replica medal by the way not the the real medal but it's real gold but it's just not the actual goal metal. I'm not even sure if he got the gold the middle back remember a couple years ago. He was in that fire. He was at this retreat somewhere in northern California. It was in that fire and the whole thing you know his whole room. Tom went up in smoke and he actually lost the gold medal. He brought it there because he was there to do some promotional appearance so I don't even think he has the real one back because I think he told me that he has to go through a whole process get back but someone made him this replica out of real gold so he he shows up to be events with it and whatnot he he deserves a lot of credit. It's unbelievable what he's been able to do. I suspect that his next fight will happen. In the first quarter it could could be against Dominick Cruz. I know they've talked about Joseph Bene- feeders but I think it's a little too soon right now to to pinpoint who he's going to fight because does he still rehabbing that despite his his world travels he is still rehabbing that shoulder my colleague Mark Monday over at ESPN okay. I'm sorry Moreno. Someone's getting really mad at me. I Apologize. I guess I was calling marina more no more no more ran no this from mark Monday of Espn Dot Com he spoke to your Rodriguez. Your call the beginning of the show we spoke to Jeremy Stevens about a an incident that happened yesterday at the hotel as he was leaving. We have the son okay. Here's the sound from Jimmy Stevens and then I'll tell you well you Rodriguez said about it. Do not have the song we got into it at the hotel trying to come up and be cordial. He comes up and he's he's trying to maintain the. I came here to compete in fighting on. It's like shoving back across the hotel and get into it with a little bit. Where did this incident happened in in the lobby and someone that you're saying that this wasn't like the wings or anything this was when you guys were away from the cameras bringing down my back checking my bags Linda's Dongo Gaza Food and then we're taking often comes up like all core drilling giving thumbs up like hey everything okay and I comes up like shake? My hand is trying to be like a gentleman you know I I get it. and you start stop shitting is I really I'm not from trice school on Industry. I'm here to compete. I'm here flight. I'm here to kill you. You know so right away. My my mentality was back the fuck up so I shoved him on his coaches his dad his parents. Nobody's just how what will so that was Jeremy Stevens side of the story this from Mark Monday just posted right now on ESPN DOT COM rod quote Rodriguez told the Peon that he went up to Stevens quote unquote nicely and asked how his I was Rodriguez said Stevens told him it was fine and Dan Rodriguez said he asked him if it was okay now what happened in the fight things escalated from there quote he pushed me like a little expletive and I just told them you live the rest of your life with that in your head if you could continue and didn't shame on you quote. I'm ready for the tests and the proof if I'm wrong. I'll apologize in public no problem. That's more from your Kariya's all right. That's the story there. We'll see if they actually make the. Let's not do I just want to get to do we all right all right so in a matter seconds. We're going to be joined by Daniel Cormier. This is the last time we heard from him. This is following. UFC Two forty one in Anaheim last month at the Honda Center a lot of times you based decisions Asians in we based decisions and emotion. I don't WanNa be that guy you know so I wanna go back and talk to Selena talk to my coaches and we'll we'll figure I figure out what what's next okay so everyone wanted to know after that flight would be next for Daniel Cormie of course he has talked about retiring at forty years old world wondering if that was the last time he would compete in the last week Dana White tying several media outlets that they were working on a trilogy not fight against CPA Mitch. Let us not speculate anymore. Let us talk to the man Daniel Cormie who's kind enough to join us there. He is how are you you. I'm doing good what you what you guys I. It has been awhile. DC's been awhile since that particular location was on the show. We haven't done one from that spot in your house so it's great to talk to my man and before we get to anything I just want to send my condolences. We've obviously talked in private but you know because you lost your father there recently. I know how much he he meant. You just wanted to send my condolences to you and your family and ask you. How are you doing several weeks later after the news of his passing okay? It's the hardest thing I mean my dad was was a fantastic man and you know he really sacrificed a lot in life to try to make a life for us in to lose him was was terrible. I mean it was just so fast. You know we went from we went from a year in about him. Having a form of cancer March colon two April they told us that radiation that gotten it and he was good in in two amine early euro. You guys did that interview in east exceed in June like the thirtieth in July I my sister city look sick so he took him to the emergency room. They told him that he had the robot from cancer. We just didn't know also also home of July. You know we dealt with trying to find they told my father yet six months soliven so we the whole month scrambling trying to find second opinion everything else to try to help him but two days after you guys did that interview it just it's just creating out fast at disease can run through somebody especially a small man like my dad. How much was he and his his illness on your mind as you were preparing for that for you didn't speak about this in the build-up? But how much were you thinking about it. This is a very slippery slope right because you know I don't want to discredit steep in any way I want to give that disclaimer claimer prom. It's hard whenever you're dealing with a lot of family issues but he he won the fight you know and he would have won the regardless but you well it is what it is. You know we all have our problems in my burden was the only time I think you know more than anything thing area. You know like when we when I was going into the fight the week prior about a week and a half beginning to the hospital in a second home Sunday before to fight so when are too on my love got sent home in are everything's good you know and I thought no. We're going to continue to try to find out what was happening. You know that giving him some new medication rigid very hopeful and and my parents normally right front row for the fights and you know they weren't called before the fighting on it was back in the hospital. You know some lot to deal with but ultimately steeping wanted to fight and he wanted to regardless. I guess you know we know you you take losses hard. You wear your emotions and your heart on your sleeve and we saw the clip of you afterwards we saw in the cage. You're very emotional to deal with the loss lawsuit. You were so disappointed about the result but then to deal with a real life thing like like your father's illness in the span of a week. I was just concerned for your well. Being how are you you handling it all mentally emotionally. How are you handling those two traumatic things happening in the span of a week? One loss is a hard on me than it was very difficult but you don't sleep as a good guy great father and you wanted to fight but I'm you know I just went back to Louisiana and the I think when I went home knowing what I knew fight was the furthest thing from a mind I went back to my mom's My father was just really sick. When I was the only concern so you know I think I think it keeps things in perspective a little bit you know each able to put things in perspective you know like the much as I love love sports everything else you know my family and everything is It's so much more important beyond in that moment I would have given any title any amount of money anything. Try to just help my dad. I went home to that. You know so ideas put things in perspective the dealt with my family you know for everything spent eleven days in Lafayette somebody dying years and you know I got spend like the following week at five with my father in then the next week with my mom you know as we prepare for the funeral funeral services so it just really helped to put things in perspective anyone I came home after everything now I have to deal with the effects of the loss you know but it was really put off for a while because more important things to the precedent into my focus from from from the fight in the midst of all that you went to speak to the Texas am football team just days after the why did you do that. I was talking to Jimbo Fisher to coach and he said boys. Do they want men do they're supposed to do you know there was a lesson to be learned. In that moment you know that I made a commitment to those kids to speak to them and it was my job in it was what I was supposed to do. You know I'm not a kid anymore. Kids do whatever they want. Men Do what they're supposed nice to do. in was supposed to go there in on Thursday. I spoke to some veterans all overcoming hardship you know and I I was dealing with it. In the face. All versity in infiltration said this he goes D. C. Loss biggest fight of his life last Saturday and he goes you think he wants to be here. He goes. There's no way that's why zero and men do what they're supposed to do and so I'm wondering now here. We are a month and a half or so removed from the flight have you I had the chance or did you have any interest in sitting down and watching the fight from start to finish no I haven't I watched the Fourth Rama to fight that that was it because ultimately that's what those are the things that I need to accept. I think when you are dealing with it's something that's hard losing a fight. You need to see a don't cloud your judgment with any success you may have had deal with the underlying Ryan issue deal with what ultimately led to the result and would alternate led to a result was was was me doing certain things than the end of the fight just truly ignoring all advice from the some of the best minds all sport evolved could have your Mendez Zindel Sanchez Sanchez Leandro Vieira it. Was You know it was me not listening that got me beat and ultimately I deserve to lose that fight because if I will continue to win that fight or one that fight it would not have been the lesson that I need right now in my life. What should you have done differently in that round? you know I think just been a little more cautious. You know the issue for me. Is I fought very emotional in that fight. you know just fair very emotional in you know obviously that's it's easy to do. Whenever you're landing just everything you throw in but also just just just out there essentially fighting you know I'm I'm generally pretty guy seems to the point that had times booed out of building you know but everything we trying trying to do was what you saw in wrong number one and then at the end of it was just like you know? It was crazy when you say you so. You've obviously been there with guys that you don't like John Jones. I mean that's one of the greatest rivalries in history the store. Why were you fighting so emotionally steeped? We know that there was some friction but why not you know I think you know when you're when we get to this fight area like everything was going so well beautiful e sixty peace and everything was going so well it just the the world was at my fingertips Simpson but on the backside I was going through so many bad things and I think I think you can't control. We'll anger the no one we had. We you know we went to the arena by five thirty and I called my parents to say bye and then I'm GonNa talk to mopped fighting back in the hospital. Also what you know what's going on in in again. I'm really not trying to take anything using away from meal. TRAJAN corn adjust loss but I felt like I did a lot of things better. Did you feel like in hindsight. You got a little overconfident often because you were looking really good like that. First Round couldn't have gone any better and I remember them telling you corner. Put Your hands up. You know respect power. Did you feel like you're feeling yourself a little too much. I think I just didn't feel the threat in the honestly I didn't feel the threat in wrong. one-two-three the three. I think Steve did a great job. It was like she was hit me in the stomach right and I was feeling them but they weren't really hurting me like they weren't hurting joining me but then the very last one before finishing hit with one right over my rib and when he hit the river tight my belly in like my hands drop up and then he admitted a beautiful combination of top that was just great work by him you know and it goes to the fighting mind for mindset in the the ability of steep coach you know he went you went hard body shot in and I'm like the one that hurt me. instead of chasing that again he went up top. That's the one that it may across the tin and that's my started to staggered. I've generally been very good about not allowing that follow up strike to hurt when it went. I'm hurt but this time he was just so straight Chris that it land there was nothing I just didn't see it when you watch the fighting in particular that fourth-round which you said you watch and then you see him win and celebrate and do the dance and all that what does that do for you inside. You know it's weird because it doesn't anger me. It really doesn't anger me. You know I mean a guy a guy at his moment you know a guy had his moment especially in that way me this guy got hit a hot. You know and yet to go through a lot lot of sustained a lot of damage any any any wintered got the job done so I mean love celebrated. That doesn't doesn't affect me. I mean he had to stand through me and brock listener. do what we did last year so yeah I I didn't I didn't I didn't affect what affected me with my kids. You know my wife looking at the face might children and those are that's what affected me wasn't doesn't his celebration or watching what my children went through is what hurt that hurt. I just felt like my whole whole life. I live for protecting my family. My wife and my kids and I just couldn't believe I put him through that you know and they've been the fights. Would they never seen the other side in That's what hurt 'em dancing known them celebrate. That's expected. He wanted heavyweight champion of the world. Would your kids say to you after the fight. Sh It's it's tough you know. My son is a he loves. The sport loves fighting and I sit down cry and you said I'm trying not new trying US trying his hardest to not cry and he just could not turn it off. I think that's the first time that that he was so emotional and didn't know how to deal with his emotions in the you know did I thought he was very brave in very strong in those situations Joycean 'cause they're. They've got cameras pointed in their face because everybody wants to see their reaction to and I thought my son was very brave. I thought my daughter was very very the wife was very bray in a sense that they were the they saw that I was hurting in. They were trying to be strong to make sure that I knew that my support system was was very very very strong and they were they were GonNa try to hold me up even hurt him just as bad but I thought they were break. I was very going back now. I'm very proud of were as you know. One of the big narratives going into that fight was whether or not it would be your last night and I saw a clip of union in the Locker Room afterwards where your son asks you. Is this your last fight and you said you didn't know and so obviously the big question Canales a month and a half later. Have you decided if you will keep on fighting. You know I just never again can't like I didn't have time to really process decision. Immediately knows more deal my family. My Mom lost my godfather in May which brother in the husband in office also as more worried about my family didn't really precision assistance in then I got a call from Dana couple of weeks ago. We spoke at length in he talked me I of the front and and then I ask questions about microwave because obviously if it's his job to do also and that's the way I'd WanNa. Do you know I I I said let me think about when talk to Bob in the Wayne. Ravi Air was endo and my wife knows they are all like hating see whatever the side will do. It was Selena. You know she goes you. Don't invite their this is not how you in. She will lose again. You know it's just meant to be you know but for you to be fighting as you did even with the worst fight Iq McHugh in the history of your career you managed to go out ahead going into that room that you laws it. Also you go fight your fight. You don't want if hyun moves even when you fight your fight. You know we're fine you don't you don't want him like that because I don't want you to do this now in in four years down the line and start start going. I should have did inside to do it right so I'm. I'M GONNA fight this guy again in the mind inches to fight him in the right way and hopefully that's enough to get my hand race but I will fight him again. You know win or lose. I'm not fighting whiten again here so beauty only time that I ever stepped foot in the off guard again so the next one is officially the last one next one will be the last one and and it's against steeple it has to be sleepy no-one house managers and is that offer on the table right now from the AFC. Do they want to make that fight. Yes they WANNA make that flight. They want me to sleep in yeah. It was fantastic. It was a fantastic quite for all the wrong reasons. It didn't have to be a fantastic to fight but it was and I'm not saying I can just go grab sleep. Emil blown down it will no but I can do a lot of things better than I did on all the seventy and is there a date attached to that fight right now as far as the offer concern. Now you know I think sleep is dealing with awesome stuff. you know I'm ready. I'm ready to go whenever the sooner the better for me. you know they after the fight I spent thirteen hours or the Disneyland I want my home. I had thirty eight people from Louisiana that had never been so I took a model Disneyland and the I'm ready to ago. Just waiting for a date to to preeminent will fight again. I know they're looking for a main event on December fourteenth. Is that too soon or would you be down down to do that as well. I'd be down to okay. We're GONNA becomes available that will work for me. I'd be happy to get myself Freddie to go as you may recall was quite the journey to get to the second fight with brock stuff and you had back surgery as well. Is there any part of you that is concerned that steep it will try to turn the tables on you and make you wait and make you sit this one out and drag it out to the point where you'll say I don't WanNa wait and maybe you do are you just can wait as long as possible and get that fight. I'm not gonNA wait as long as possible if he doesn't want to fight them okay. He doesn't WanNA fight but I I didn't necessarily make him wait purpose. I quoted awaiting actually because I had back surgery. I didn't have the go ahead to just go just the moment I got the go-ahead to start training. I did you know what I did as best I could but the reality is like with my back. I probably could could awaited more time for it to heal but I felt like okay I it's functional enough to go. I'm sure you WANNA fight so it's what I do. I love to compete in once. I thought I was good enough to train. I said Okay I'll I took a fight. You know so it wasn't because hours like trying to mix deep a meal wait now. I just had back surgery in December and can do anything until April and I started training camp in Maine so I went soon as I could in your talks with Dana waiter the UFC brass. Your management have said that they've offered this to St Bay. Do you know how he feels about it right now. They just told me they're going to go up. CPI that's it you don't. I'm only worried about what I can control. I cannot control servicemen it. I get a fight offer identified offered in it's up to the other side. That's I'm only going to worry about what I can control. Yeah I mean I'm not in a place right now. Area where I'm chasing. I'm waiting. I'm begging. I'm not doing any of that stuff. I don't need to either. We're GONNA FIGHT A we won't fight so it is I mean I'm going to see what happens. I mean I hope he fights you know I hope he fights me. Run it back like arena back with him. I mean I didn't necessarily have to you know I could have that big win last July and and said wow that was beautiful in Walker Mario's you know but I imagine of the brock listener thing was on the table for them. They probably did it to such a massive fight but the the moment. They told me he wasn't fighting us. It'll play as I said from the moment I stood for any reason. Bribe doesn't fight. I'll give him this rematch so rightfully deserves and I did had you won that fight in August now. Could you tell us in high tech. Would it have been your last one. Would you have walked away at that point probably would have been done yeah. I would feel good to walk away from the sport only reason I'm fighting against a guy that beat me in IBM. That's breath. I love to compete and I don't WanNA finish like this. I'd say because even if I go to him again at least I will fight my fight. It's the released feel good enough to beat me under those terms didn't it is what it is. I've lost four. I've lost a lot of times. I've lost targets Angie's arrested matches. Sometimes I'm just not as good and I can deal with that but at least let me give my best effort four. NFC as coaches Vancouver yeah and I can I had seen a guideline congratulated tone great job you know like I liked Marksman Ellie L. E. N. coaches. I think are great guys. I told him congratulations on getting a job done no hard feelings. I just know that I just want to give give my best effort. That's it and you know what's going to happen right. They'll do the trilogy. Let's say you win all right one more against Jon Jones. You know that's coming Dana. The white is openly talked about that. This is what he's going to offer you but you're saying for sure. There's only one left at this morning Junan fighting steeping yields and that's that's it for me. I don't know what are hard to convince the ground. I WANNA go fight skin lead sleeping. I I WANNA do that. I WanNa do it right. I want to meet my I WANNA go up there and and just do what I'm supposed to do. Fight the wealth to fight and and get my hand rates and if I don't again as long as I fight my fight and I played the way they're not capable of fighting. I'm good with it and so here's my my big question. You said you fought emotionally too emotionally in that in that second fight considering that you've lost to him and considering everything that you've been dealing with your father. It's going to avoid not fighting mostly considering that. It's the retirement there's a lot now going into no listen listen when I was going through nothing should ever nothing could ever mashed ahead. You know nothing could ever be worse than what we dealt with a family so I don't worry about that and plus. What are you going to do the same thing again lose again? I mean what does that do for you. Driving do better. It's all you can do is try to I try to give lessons all these young men and women that I that I need to try to live by now. as as I chased his potential earth fight we found out after the fight. I didn't know this. I don't think many people knew he doesn't really talk a lot. Did you know that his father was also dealing and with with cancer as well going into that fight no I did. It's pretty that's it's crazy right yeah. That's that's that's what I don't like to think about that too much. Okay it just feels. I don't like to think about that too much because I never I'm so happy that him and his family don't have to. I'm so happy that they don't I really am I don't. I don't want anybody to go to a winter but that's a weird one very very odd very weird. How is your body Eddie feeling after this issue the hand issue like forty years old now? How are you feeling? Are you up for another training camp. Tom Hardy aren't the the reason I would like to go. Sooner than later is because I feel great you know like I don't feel as if I'm run down or anything. I didn't hurt myself in the fine. I didn't hurt myself in the camp like I just feel good and it'll be better than just give rolling right away. better get rolling right away. Will you do anything differently as far as training or are you sticking with the same guys in the same same spot with the same kind of game plan you know I think my coaches did a great job of getting me prepare. I just didn't execute it's on me. You know it's it's very simple to could you watch a guy in how bean just executed the game plan that was put out in front of him in look at how well he fought. Oh you know it's it's a matter of executing things that you are training with your coaches. My coaches had me prepared but they're so changes all spend spend more time with with my strength conditioning coach off Guy Care McCoy was a two time Olympian. He was the head coach at Stanford Head Coach University of Maryland. He's GonNa come down in really overseas. The Russell portion of my training camp a guy that I've known since I was on the team and he has no problem saying hey do this better or do this different Is this a real voice the true voice that I can he will tell me everything I need here in the Russian department. I've got guys that really speak truth to be Rosendo does Bob it does all of those but it'll be good to have that common voice from office back in two thousand one of the most high level arrests. We have in the country country to really oversee what I'm doing in that aspect of my game. Will you watch the whole fight in its entirety before the third one or do you have no interest. I we'll okay I will. I think when I think when I do it'll be a matter of accepting everything that happened. I think it'd be a massive mistake. If I did watch it but I will at some point I will not will find the things that I did well. In the bad in on there were a lot of things I did. I think I gotTA respect this. I gotta respective and it's great to land at this at this at this insane percentage of strikes but let's do a lot less of them. I guess and I was surprised that you went to Vancouver. What was that like being back so soon working at a fight being around other people you just mentioned seeing steep as team but was was it tough to be back so soon or did it actually help lead you to this decision like missing it again? It wasn't even about missing the fighting. It was it was it was Kinda getting your head on the whole you know it's just kind of worn everything that you're going through and again. I scheduled to work a month after my fighting wooded I'll tell you before we'll do men do men do they're supposed to do and that's what that's what I did. You know I wanted to work and I called the fights. In in in I came you know every damn surrounded by people that love me dear to my wife is an angel angels. She loves me so completely and she's helping me get through all this and eventually you know it always gets better. You know so that's kind of how I feel right now. I feel much better than a few weeks ago. You're not supposed to you personally and you know it was not good. You know I'll feel better today. I did a while back so for those that missed Daniel Cormie moments ago said that he is ready and willing to return for one last fight will be against steep amiach. He wants that he wants that third crack but that's it after that he wants to right that wrong and is ready as soon as December fourteenth that is tremendously exciting. a lot of exciting things happening your life. The saints got back on track. Your guy drew brees is out teddy. Bridgewater drew who no big deal many a d. C. is doing his thing Doron Win October. Eighteenth Kyle crutch mergers got signed by Bell Tour GonNa make his debut a lot of exciting things but dare. I say this clip right here to me is the most exciting of them all look at Dan Dan himself look at this man. He gets shot by thirty three. What will you step into my the man who you step into feeling myself? I'm good. I'm clap what it's thirty three going to step the Dan Dan like that. What do you what do you feel when you see your son act like got a little swag a little pep in his step and they get those steps to him? What does that? What does that feel like to see that I think like I think like who is a WHO is? This boy is out of his mind. You know it's great man. All you ever want a boy's boy. Talk little boy that I don't. I like his swag when he got up. He amazes me every day in everything he does. My daughter just had this fantastic. These just unbelievable performances at the gymnastics gymnastics competition a couple of weeks ago is just so crazy like watching my children grow into themselves. You know I love watching Daniel in that football fuming. He loves it. He loves the contact. He loves the tackles but it's not just him. I got like five five rutger's on the football team in the you know I've got these clips from all making these great plays Bradley Kato Liam Liam Leiva Daniel. They're they're all making these fantastic tackles in. It's like watching those kids do so well watching low. Dan Get up there after he makes a play. Hey you know what I love. The celebrations not being right. He's GonNa clap himself and walk back to a thirty three kind of gave him the show the ball that was so funny. It's it's great. I it that those things make me so happy. Those are the things that are that that gets you through the tough thing I want to kick gymnastics six and I hadn't been for a while and she round off does complete back flip. I'll call her mama. needling what will start happening been for a while all but I watch him in there just making me so provident I'm so happy and so proud of what my kids are becoming and on top of that beginning September twenty eighth on the platform that I built ESPN plus which I'm now sharing with Alexa view jail and others new episode of detail featuring Israel Sonya how about this little graphic right there the last style benders September twenty eighth of course just days before his title fight against Robert Whitaker you like doing this. Are you enjoying it. I love detail. It's so far on in its soul. It's so great to watch the fights would from a different perspective in just truly explain to people what's happening in mixed martial arts now I can go into. I can give you terminology that you'll never understand but I wanNA. I want to explain this to the next fighter that wants to be me that wants to win two championships in the AFC are championships in other places. I want to be able to tell them. These are things that you need to be taken from this. This guy in this guy in this in this guy to try to build yourself into the fighter that part B. is great in the most beautiful thing about detail is if people all say well to the masses disguise better this guy's better well they show not necessarily for this show is for the guy that wants to be a world champion and that's what I love most about Kobe in his his brain. Kobe is mine like don't worry about what people think worried about that kid that zero zero that's one in two zero. One three in Ed kids says you know what. DC does this so goods but also if I can explain et kid a fight like Israel in this sense our fight conor or be in this sense. That was my job in regards detail the fans love it as that means that that's that's Lonzo. That's icing on the cake. That's extra. That's just a little bit extra but Tom is for that guy. You know four that guy that wants to fight become a world champion watching intake from any final message to stay good. I hope you recover goes. Well you know and and I'm glad you got your moment. I was weirdly. It's weird to be to see someone that worked so hard rewarded especially when it's at your expense bottle like that he had his moment at you. Don't ask me having to go through what I went through in terms of the sadness of losing the title so I want to get that back but we weren't a back you know eight true heavyweight rivalry rivalry will carry a sport and I think right now we have that which steeper and I and I intend to go back in and get the job done and fight in the waited. I've been trained to fight the way that has made me so successful but of course my my career and hopefully for your sake were staying away from Anaheim at this time a when I left the the Hans Shunning sworn how driving the bus and like everybody in the cars just holding up the bird towards issue on the Senate what the horribly the haunted slow bed. I told my boss at TV. I'm not even calling fight air anymore. Because I may walk to the fall and break my frigging or some. The big little Selena actually told me not to go back there. She goes don't go back. They don't fight there. She Puerto Rican Aaron suspicious. They're superstitious as we are on Louisiana and I sent him on in a break it. I'm GonNa do it does not matter and she goes. Please don't go back got. One is just too much in listen. They say you should always listen to your wife. I should have listened. I learned my lesson well. You are listening to her. This time you're coming back. Thank you so much as always. DC We talked about a lot of things thanks for doing this on this show. Thanks for talking to us. I appreciate it and hopefully you get that fight sooner rather than later my man thank you so much. I appreciate it all right there. He is the the one and only Daniel Cormet will that Shoji fight happened December fourteenth. We shall find out it is certainly interesting and there you have it. He is coming back. He has one more fight in him. He wants to fight steep a he wants that trilogy flight and now let's see they get it done sooner rather than later I'm told St Base dealing with some injuries right now and the UFC would like for it to happen on December fourteenth. Let us see interesting stuff fascinating stuff from the always candidate the always open authentic Daniel Cormie alright so let's end on this go from. I'm Daniel Cormier to perhaps the hottest fighter in the sport today or Hey Mas Vidal is enforced. Go as I said on Saturday he could do no wrong last last week. He was in New York. I had a chance to sit down with him. At the seaport studios in New York City where they've filmed get up we went face to face to-to-to so we were sitting in the same room this time and we spoke a lot about his past a lot of things that I didn't know about about the rise the Cup of one Jorges Maswadeh here's my conversation conversation with the man who will meet Nathan as on November Second Madison Square Garden November Second Madison Square Garden. UFC Two forty four four one of the most anticipated fights in MMA history this man for him as well against Nathan for the title. How are you sir uh-huh gory aerial often? You're dodging me. You're saying that you're going to do my show. You don't show up. You're seeing it'll be on camera on the now. I got you in person. Finally I you know I love you. I I just from from the world itself. I say you know isolated from but I love you. May Not I wouldn't be here. You know what I can't stop thinking about. As I say November second four I think about that as well. We'll get to that in a second. You've been doing this sixteen years. forty-five pro fights going into this year. How the hell did this happen going into this year going into this year your last flight? You didn't fight in two thousand eighteen so you didn't have a lot of momentum. You're out doing the reality show your last flight was at. MSG Not even close to the main event not even close lost that fight if you told me that night or he might as well in a year and a half half is going to be main eventing MSG and one of the biggest fights of all time. I wouldn't have believed you. Would you believe you that game. Bird wanted to believe but that game is no longer with this guy got buried a long time ago. It's this guy right here. You know so that guy wouldn't believe you. This guy knows what's going to happen on November second. How'd did you get rid of that guy? We had to catch a body where he's no longer with us. You know but something rose better I I just had the pro shut down a lot of negative program out of things in my life my outlook on certain things that I had to change in and and with Dad's come the success that I got no not as you know also like you said. I've been doing this for sixteen years so I got a lot of people don't know I've been sharpening tools a lifetime. You know I got more than sixteen. Sixteen Years in the sport is sixteen years pro been amateur for some time to so is just literally lifelong journey you know what did you say negative things like what let's say anything negative like my pants you always filled with candies. I got kids candy snacks and stuff or snap APP no more veggies foods for everybody then if if there's even the temptation finding that that's not what happens because the pantry still field with snacks but it's much like life life a lot of those negative things you're in the pantry. I removed him out of my life. I won't get into too much detail but there's a lot of things that are that are not part of my life. You know okay so that night like when you when you lose to wonder boy you have your call a moment where you're like. I need to make some changes here because I'm wasting my career. Definitely I need to make some changes but we got time time. We've got time well you. This guy was telling me before the you'd better come with the hot stuff like I don't usually we're. We're going to warm up. We're warming up you sit in the woman. Well some time passed in the fight. You know obviously heartbroken because the loss of everybody wanted to win against one of the boy Roy and I can't get a fight at the time also got some injury so I told my manager in a nursing injuries that I got fix up a couple things and then get back to doing that process. Maybe maybe six months passed by. I'm ready to compete. Let's go. He's telling me on okay. Let me get you a fight. Some time passes by he gives me a call and my manager's is really good at trolling. I don't know if everybody knows this means so after putting me on numerous trolls he calls me and I go. Hey what's up and he goes. Hey Man I got this reality. Show so for you go awesome. I'm not in the mood for the troll today. Some time passes because he has the same proposition on the day. I WANNA fight. I don't WanNa be on the real world or crap. I WANNA compete you know a man. I can't get you a fight ran on. Nobody's really WANNA fight. You know this gigs getting Sweden in Sweden the more you say no go there for a couple of weeks. What happens ends up being that I go for the show thirteen weeks and there's no phone mobile TV? I've said numerous times but this is kind of how I got to find out exactly what had to do. It sounds Corny as it may be but being out from away from everybody just by myself. I got to find me just listen into my voice not a million different opinions or some stupid song on the radio anything I just got to hear my own voice and and what I want done in my life before I close the chapter on fighting in these are some of the things I don't want it done in my life. I'm still nowhere near where have to get at but I'm pointing in the right direction. My my my mind body Iden- Spirit is pointed towards the right direction for a long time in my life and my career show these last four years that I got she'll be a roller coaster very rarely watch. I'm GONNA snatch everybody. Nobody saw every time I fly. I love people when I fight you know that I just took their breath away. I love that feeling so he's last four years. You're going to be going to be there's going to be something wild man so in the end the reality show must save your career saved my career say not reality show because I could have found this in but it helps out forbid in jail you know just having that that who moment that constantly being when myself finding out here my voice making a detailed so plan on what I'm GonNa do what's left of my career so even though you you saw the light so to speak and you had the plan to see where you're at now to see the kind of year that you've had I the 'til fight which let's be on going into that fight. You know it was a fight but we didn't expect this explosion. Then of course what happened July and now it's happening in November is part of you. It's like Dan. I can't believe it's actually happening divinely fulfilling these dreams that I know I'm kind of mad at myself took so long so as my my good friend and manager did you because he knows that I had the capabilities and but I told them at the start of this year I also told him Amberg because you've got to have witnesses man I I just don't be caught and stuff in there. Everything I've done this year. Almost call it not really almost called it to a t to the few close to me that have been there on General Manager for American American top team Richard Puma Dan Hamburg on my manager along with my coaches. I've been calling in out of the police way before they get done so they're like in ten just like I told Lisa so we got big plans November second huge plains so have you call things that we haven't seen like other things that you call that we haven't seen come to fruition yet yeah. I'm not a prophet but man you guys spot on with a couple things. I can't get into detail or some of them. I gue- fascinated by the higher ups. You're going to hear that I got this Sabah brainpower. The one killed me okay but there are other things it doesn't just entered. The number on November second is is a gift to the world right so you had probably feeling that nate was gonNA since you've been foreseeing I. I wasn't sure on on the nate thing if it was going gonNA happen. I thought obviously it's a strong possiblity nate for starters of fighter more than anything I know he's chasing the money just send me but that guy wants the fight to get him out of bed with motivation. Motivation hit the heavy bag. I'm that guy you know why not because I'm the funniest the best looking at nothing not simply because I'm gonNA come to kill you five the chance and anybody Eddie fighting. He knows that that's not motivating enough. I don't know what is being said. This fight manage just speaks awesome yeah right now. I'm pretty heightened I could. I could go run five miles a hit the background on pretty like so. Where did the change come because there was a time where you were getting split? What decision split decision unanimous decision? You're losing the close ones now. You're like five seconds. Don't blink knocking out until you feel like you've changed as a fighter later as well. Oh definitely definitely you're more aggressive not just that but like reverse engineer to my whole career numerous times but never in-depth death like I did this last time when I was in isolation under the stars just me got in the universe and I'd seen everyone on my decision losses in my head and and went back. How could I have one that decision? I was my first answer and then I immediately killed that person in thought and said why the Hell would I look for Wade out point a guy and should beat ending them like make a math formula so there's no judges involved and that's all I've been trying to do and that's what I'm GonNa do what's left of my career like you said I am the poster Cheboygan split decisions that have the most split decision losses in the UC currently right now. It's not something that I'm proud of but it's true so taking that into consideration I had to it'd be like man. No matter what happens is not going to be known for that whether I had one though split decisions or lost some I wouldn't WanNa be that guy anyways that I was in such an hour competition. There's a lot of fights. I feel I've been robbed terribly in but it's just like man I got to figure out the formula to execute these guys because when great sportsmen when triple-teaming naming a great player. Let's say Michael Jordan. He finds a way to win. He finds a way to get those buckets. We gotta find a way not to get too decisions. I gotta find a way to eliminate opposition separate myself from the pack baptize people so there in outer orbit when they come back. There's no question of who better manage and that's that's all I'm trying to do. Separate myself from the pack so you mentioned something about when you're at the reality show and you kind of had a chance to speak yourself but it could have really been anywhere said something that kind of stuck with you said it could've could have been in jail. God Forbid Yeah. I said the Trim Joe because they'd be music TV sure in a lot of things from not that I'm not in any way shape but I I think a lot of people don't know this. You have spent time in jail about that. Why not we'll skip that one? I'm just curious. Why did you go to jail? So is it just being a dumb kid. Let my surroundings. Maybe maybe you know a lot of a lot of things going up wanted the best decision some of them you no. I don't regret because it was like maybe fearful my life type things and I did certain things and whatever's part of my my journey my history you know I'm not courage nobody to do in Vigo activities on Bass off my history but I had to go through to get here. You know feel a little something someone I'd get here on unshakable movable. There's there's nothing fazes me. Nowadays you know. How old were you when I when you were at Disney world? I know the other Disney the complete opposite and those are rumors rumors I don't want to do that might not even be true. You don't talk about it. Skip okay can ask about your Father Eh. He has been to jail as well yeah well He. He's a very strong INS- instrument in my life and my career I grew up visiting him. Independence injury entry since for drug charges okay and his first sentence was twenty two years he did about eighteen of those years years so I grew up visiting him in anything you're straight eighteen years straight wow yeah eighteen and some change because then after that he's he's not American Cuban so he doesn't get deported so he's in another type of system for another year so really did a little bit more than that but this whole process I grew up with them. I I was in this setting he would tell me things that from that side of the world only know from that dark underground world in how not to get there and he would just lecture my mind of once you get here my son. This is quicksand. You're not gonNA do anything in life. You're not going to get a job. You're not gonna any so it was very grain than me going in the system seen how mess of it is and then hearing from him not in the show. I I think my dad you know 'cause if it wasn't for him. Who knows maybe I would some of the things in life that that that I said No? I'm not going to be a part of it. I'm just going to spend my Friday nights at the gym and and get better on my take Megan sixteen years later. I'm human but when you were getting in trouble Mattie like was he like son. I'm disappointed ended. I tried to tell you for a fact man. It's hard when you're always that right. He's always been a best friend to me so him just saying like just giving me like a hedgehog like I remember being young visit him and then he found that I got into some type of trouble him just giving me like one of these it would kill me. He didn't have to hit me screaming nothing so he definitely help guide me away from anything negative and so when he got out after eighteen years. Has he been cool since has he he's been good. He's a standup citizen. What does he do now works for me? We work together a lot of times. He has a couple of little businesses but his life. My life is like a walk in the park compared his ear. This gentleman really had real hard life. He came from Cuba. The age of fourteen he stole a tire from a tractor turned it into a raft him his best restaurant at the time in his uncle's best friend none of them were seen merchants or none of that they just said we don't want to be told what her favorite color is going to be or what to watch TV so they left Cuba de uh-huh defected and they ended up somewhere in the Bahamas or the Virgin Islands I forget and from there they got extract it to the USA. So that was fourteen at the time in all. Oh he knows is just streetlife from that time on he was in section eight housing project housing. He was in the worst neighborhoods possible with no guidance whatsoever so his life is something that there was so impactful to me just to hear like man good thing. I don't go through all that and you're here to guide me and that's the reason why I'm here the Times you know he's from Cuba. You're from Peru yes man. Where did they meet? They Miami Florida Okay and her life. Maybe a little calmer than his yeah until he meets him and then has this saw Wah was it. My mom only had one child and she said after you there'd be no more kids ever again again coming out of my wound justify this what she said just for the fact that one might come out being half of you know why. I wasn't invited the birthday party so I was like fourteen years old because I'm what I just have a lot of energies tough for me to sit here this long you know right. Now I really WanNa get moving and do something. I was very hyperactive as a kid beyond over the top you know you could tell a little bit mischievous troublemaker yeah okay and so early an insane amount of energy may mix with like bad intentions okay school. You'd get in trouble as well. Yeah not always finding stuff but I don't know maybe I broke something. Something crazy I disappear appeared for like a week and then I came back though so I I was a handful for my mother and did she ended up having more kids. No one really one and done wow brags about it. You know I I wasn't talking till I like family. Birthday parties wasn't allowed to like thirteen fourteen years old till they thought it was civilized enough to get reintegrated in the group again. Wow you're really excluded from everyone a little bit yeah yea that's wild teen I would think and they started from the period of six like I don't know how long there was like Oh. We've got to control that animal when you bring them. You know I are your parents still together no no they haven't been together for ages. Oh really okay what happened. Just kind of I mean just imagine just an eighteen year. Try think was was long enough. I don't know married at the time they were married when he went in. I don't know how in love they were with each other the now at the moment because there's different sizes but I don't know I don't I don't know if it would last if you hadn't gotten in there or not I have no idea. Are you close your mom now. We're cool super cool we they know you're very close to your dad. Yeah my pops and my best friend new moms a super cool but my my my my my best friend so you see them a lot with me but I got a lot of loving Emma Rachel for my mom. She busted her but to get numerous times. She was working chat got a full time job at this dollar rental car place shed a part time job than a night. I remember she's to pack up like necklaces like she'd make necklaces all night along in our wake up like at two in the morning as a kid and see her working and be like man she just left to work came back from war in still working might not make ends meet and those type I booth visuals installed a work ethic that you can go to the greatest Jim in the world American top team and ask any of the coaches there who's got the best work ethical one of the best work ethics and they'll tell you that's me man I I don't. I don't pull that knee off because I'm just so talented. I rep anymore than any human being walking this earth. I'm in there everyday day. GIMNASTIC repetitions my running my sprints my swimming. Whatever it is that I gotTa do I'm out working everybody in that room and a big part of that is because of my mother the work ethic that I saw that she she had wasn't saying to me you know and and I was at a young age and this impacted me no so that's how that's how strong over work I think that immigrant mentality they say now? It's trendy to say but it's true you know. She came over with a work driving them. When my dad went away shed to turn it up? Even more you know when you're going through sort of that uncertainty with your dad away and you get into fighting fighting around fourteen right. That's when you start dabbling with it. Yeah like thirteen fourteen years old. I really start trying to train places. I I started training since young. Maybe like four or five five years old. My Dad tells me but my mom was a conflict of interest. My Dad was like yes put him in that he could burn the nervous energy all that crazy azules stick him in the two three hours a day. GonNa come back a better human being my mom's like you're gonna make a more aggressive. Just GonNa make him worse so it was always like that turbulence. If I do bad in school that they take me out of the sport fourteen hours really like I needed that outlet and that was my outlet that was as crazy as it sounds growing up especially the gym where people are trying to rip your head off my safe zone always meant. It was if I had a bad day if I just biting get to eat for whatever we if anything happened if I go to the gym that does my safe zone so I always looked at the gym is like my temple. You know like my place of pieces. Craziness weird that sounds. What kind of house did you grow up in? I grew up in different houses. Many apartments houses everywhere man lived in many places. Why'd you move around so much good question? I don't know but we moved around a lot. You know I've ever in some tough places where FBI I've been in some some rougher places man. I slept in my car for like four or five months before I got a couple of pro fights really had some cash used in your car in the coin. The parking lot slept a ginger longtime under into the ring under the rain for a while too you know for like a good two months and then bouncing from couch to couch and was able to afford a car. 'cause I wanna the fight had another place to sleep and I got AC. I'm set as an individual I am. I didn't let nothing stop me so young age. I didn't care if I had a house or if I had the right gear. Nah I just make it to the gym because it was my saves. Only didn't it didn't matter where I slept. It didn't matter what I was doing if I could just get to the gym and space off those three four. I wish I was like a kid all over again you know and I've done that throughout my whole life and have to pay off now. You know when you're leaving your car when you're essentially homeless people trying to mess with do because you're out in your sleep. Maybe maybe I wanted to corral somewhere safe. You ever have any situations where someone and tried to rob you. Come up on you this one car that I was in they try to toilet what I was in the car. So I just lived here clicking thing I'm getting robbed in there and cooking all the things that they didn't see me me in the back so I got out of the car. Obviously ready to kill somebody new and like Oh snap sorry about that you know and then hooked the car and stuff but that's about it when you're in these moments. You're nothing at yourself like man. What is this going to lead to at some point? I ever GonNa breakthrough here or am. I just going to be the guy who's jumping camping from place to place living from place to place at some point. You WanNa make you want to be a prizefighter right. You ever have moments of doubt where you're like. Maybe I just took the wrong path. This isn't going to lead to anything any money honey. There's a couple of those split decision those losses were I go. Wow this hurts man. I I put so much into my whole life into this into this camp into this actual fight and then you hear something like thirty one judge twenty seven for for him than other judges studied twenty seven for me than other judges twenty nine twenty eight for him so I leave you like lopsided then you go online and Ariel said I wanted to fight so and so I don't I want to fight the whole press online says when the fight and it puts you in those weird things you could go many different routes. The world is against me or I had an affair with somebody's daughter the judge and how they freaking hate me you could you could do all these things and you got to kind of be a little cheesy and be like man. I gotta find the most positive ositive weighing the least resistance to my success. You know that was just end these guys just gotTa finish them. I'm going to get better. I kept telling myself. I know oh I can do this. I'm going to get better is just a matter of time before everything falls in the place still hasn't fallen in place yet but it Wilson. Have you ever been back Cuba with your dad. No no haven't been I mean he's not really he couldn't go and come back can't because he defected know that too but also he's aw like in the US they don't deport Cubans because we have that embargo treatment you know sometimes they still do but he can't leave the country and then come back into the USA leaves. Yes take on okay yeah when when you when you see nate. Do you see yourself in him. In some aspects yeah I see another kid that man this was his way out. You know the way to to generate money generating income and do nothing crazy. You know maybe maybe we come from similar neighborhoods upbringing. You know so you can see that trauma when he fights it. He's willing to push through the pain fatigue like a dog. It's doesn't matter to him when you when you were coming up that fight that you're like man or maybe even his brother because it feels like it was his brother for the longest time. Really these are the kinds of guys that I want to test myself again. I respect these guys either either one of them you know I thought Menendez a long time ago so I knew about all these guys are obviously nichols. Find me a strike which he was a seventy pound champ I was at one hundred and fifty I five nate was in fifty five but in the UC then when I came over nate went up and then he went down and it was kind of weird so I didn't really think that the those fights were going to materialize with these brothers but I always wanted him because I just knew like men that they we fight is going to be fighting. It's going GonNa be somebody that the fans are gonNA remember. People remember that day and they're counting in their calendar the mark down if you're MMA fan you're going to know about that because you're getting what you want. A fight fight you know guys at ain't GonNa quit that are going to give it their all push themselves to the to the brink. I'm sorry for Harping on this but I can't get over it. Your journey is so unexpected in the sense that in the fight game if you've been fighting for sixteen years especially if you consider boxing let's be honest double digit losses. Not all of them were deserve but that's what it is. It doesn't happen this late. Where you just explode now here you are? You're mainstream star. I see Lebatardshow. ICU on get up like you are a mainstream star. It doesn't doesn't usually happen this way like you could have been easily the guy who got submitted by Toby Imada in one of the craziest emissions that could have been you write. That could have been your legacy what happened to her. We must remember the guy who got submitted and you have somehow overcome all of that. It's amazing. I would imagine there was a period where you're like. Is that going to be me right now. It wasn't never thought that you never ever worried. I knew for a fact you know I knew for back without life had hit me so much harder than ending Eugene on my pro career life at the age like twelve thirteen years old at hit me way harder choked me out way harder than anything I had come in contact with in sports world so I was like it's just a matter of time. I'm going to bounce back from this. I'm going to take that guy's head off and whoever else they put in front of me and slowly but surely I've been I've been getting to that would last time you saw that a modest mission mission. Maybe I don't know like Youtube. I remember seeing soap on highlight. Someone I saw and I just looked at eight and it took me back to those memories. The music and I didn't Wanna I remember feeling like I'm going to get out of here. You're GONNA get embarrassed when you watch it embarrassed and at the same time hold old badge of honor for myself because I know I was close to going out but the fighting me the that that like say that dog Ini was they now. We're going to find a way out of your. I didn't find a way out of it and that was the first time I was actually in a submission like that. I I didn't know nobody you better believe. After that day I got the best guy's that doing that submission because I didn't even know you could get some major from that position and man we drilled it in drooled and drilled so the point where if toby started in that position I'd feel comfortable to get out and it's just the character that I am kind of like a sociopath with these things like I just emerging myself in in and just torment myself till I get good at so you know I feel like so you said you're Ansi got a lot of energy. You're fired up but I feel like you're also somewhat at peace because all this is happening to witness the fact I saw photo photo of you and Michael who I thought would never see eye to eye hanging out chummy. Did you bury the hatchet will might to me on my shoe hugh something like small but he went above and beyond when I was in my fight for literally we're in a real tight hall when he had to go this win and had to go that way and I was ready for anything you know. I don't of this guy's GonNa come fight me. I don't know if he's just going to say exchange of words. I didn't know what he was going to do. In all he did is he came up to me said so George kept walking this. She was like a day or two before my fight not he could've thrown me off course but him not trying to throw me off course showed me a lot of a lot of respect for him. I I just you know besides obviously he's a great fighter and stuff. You know it just showed me and I mean this is a real cool individual because you could try to destroy my mindset and I'm finding this countryman man you know and he didn't and that was real cool. I thought that was from the heart you know so so that has been buried yeah that we were able to talk and express each others things in a couple of Larry's and sociocultural also why we kind of buddy you know so so that that warms my heart I was actually listening. You're in studio my show back in two thousand in sixteen. I don't know if you remember you were here to watch the NCAA wrestling tournament and we actually talked a lot. I just listened to the interview again just to remind me of what we talked about. We talked talked a lot about your roommate. Your friend and abyss being photo makes me think that this makes me sad that you in Kobe beefing. This makes me said you guys were boy. You spoke so highly of him in that interview. I don't know if you remember but going to Taco Bell late at night. I mean we means individuals shared a lot of memories. You guys were real tree. At at some point I would've considered as real friends knowing that that he takes to the internet or online to bash me when I had never bash him and he just took the bashing whether it be for a facebook like or or maybe he's going to get ten more pay per view buys moon. We do fight if you would set our friendship like that so quick. We never had a friendship you. It was all say I thought we had a friendship but I could see from your end to minds. We were never cool man. You were just using me or whatever the hell you know sleep on my couch. Obviously you already knew who I was. So how would I get Kobe and you show I tell you about my Colbrad. Do with other radio shows you know so I just feel like man. This is a punt and then to really put an end in the coffin ripped off. My coach didn't didn't pay money. My coach was training says he's an amateur all the way to the title. Rda and then after that just ripped them off when that happened he died so I really don't like the gentleman interviews because nobody knows who he especially if they're watching me they WANNA see providing they don't WanNa see pure hugging hug. Some fans really know who this dude it. You know so that'll be the first time we address that peasant on this show but I thought we were friends. We we never y. Well you know if you were for a couple of dollars. You would throw my name under the bus or try to say things. We were never cool. You know I'm just because I spoke to Dustin on Monday and he didn't you want really WanNa talk about him. Either say what would happen if you see him at the gym and he's like you'll read about it and that was pretty much it. I don't foresee any sort of scenario where he could be allowed in the gym like how this is going to tear the gym apart right. If you invest in two guys who are so respected isn't a problem you even skipping the gun before you get to mean Dustin. Why was is this guy ever badmouthing Amanda? You know one of the greatest fighters ever. She's shake you. You don't have no respect for yourself main and once he started doing this Gimme we started separating ways like okay like the whole hanging out with girls. He doesn't get girls. I want to one has it become so cool kissing tell like he's talking about who's having affairs various within this and that and then talk about women. I met this guy's father. He actually has a dad man. I'm surprised he acts this way. You know like like a punk literally just to get a reaction action just to get this people talking about it. I can't I can't see I don't I don't care for that. 'cause I know who he is in real life. He's not this. This character is trying no being in real life that he's a sex symbol or that. He doesn't have no feelings he's actually quite the opposite you know so it's crazy to see what people do literally for the the dollar they will sell their soul and that's part of the reason also took me so long to get here. I've never change. I've I've continued to be true to myself. You know that I'm the same person you interview ten fifteen years ago. I'm going to be that person if they like me cool if they don't it is what it is set myself dollar man if you win on November second life is not a when you win my apologies when you went on November second life is going to the beginning but has life changed already like you feel how's life changed. Dramatically may snap. I heard the same before the your last considered profiting you own cities or something like that they they say that's when I really noticed when my own city took like a general consensus of me you know yeah like I said I've been fighting forever and it's never been like a big the big thing over there where I can't go out now. It's like where I can't go out you know and so my own city so that's when I knew like wow I wanna take pictures like it's in California California New York a lot more like if I'm just here randomly I get a lot more. I guess people are more way more educated Maine New York. Let's say hello -fornia or they just get the trends. I you know because it's it's in Miami. I've never felt that boom like how it is now and that's how I knew man. I must go onto the next year up. You know one one thing. It sounds silly but one thing that I really think helped maybe connect you with people Miami is when you said super necessary in that press conference. It's a crazy thing that this has blown up. I don't know why the super necessary. I didn't know that super necessary was so Miami and you didn't know that because afterwards it seems like everyone's like all he's our guy he said super necessary and I heard the the other one was irregardless that everyone says over there a word that doesn't really make sense but was eight. You say you regardless I. I'm sure maybe in the heat of moment I do the super necessary I mean I guess people do say that I don't I don't know but you know that blew up right like that's the the guys on Lebanon on the TV. I know I'm GONNA get on social social media much. I don't know what blows up and then I just do my thing and then later on the good job like I cool you know did it. Yes we're like the three piece in the soda. Yeah Yeah I just I never would have thought it was gonna blow up like that. You know but whatever it's a crazy thing because now I feel like they view you as their guy three. Oh Five. That's what I'm saying now. Oh right now we're waiting for. The first one is there is a party that you guys are johnny-come-latelies now. You'RE GONNA show me love after years right. Is there a part of you that's like where were you guys back. In the day when I was fighting for shark fights my boy said and not me yeah you feel that way of course I mean just think about it like from exposure aside lady fouls able to the UC while we could get the Miami market with this guy the UC would have been pushing me earlier so there is that part of me of Gosh I wish would've got behind me sooner but at the same time man gotta lines stars up for a reason you know in God's timing is perfect so he wanted to now you know so now it is how much we making for this fight did will making some people are going to be not some people. A lot of people won't be mad when they see and I would rather much say a lot of people are going to be happy seen how a lot of my co workers are already been taken to to the stuff when they actually find out these numbers. What are we talking figures big numbers and then and you can't say nothing because when you look at my resume what I've been doing not just forget about the UC's before coming to see you know because you've been covering for ages deserve of these paychecks and then some a long time ago a long time ago my we're making up for lost on November second not only my charging for this year's work but his compound interest I mean it's been building up for a long time? I'm this credit card. Companies coming in to collect -ment got some interest rates to apply unless somebody WANNA oh money money to pay per viewpoints. First Time is finally coming together. This guy knows too much. That's great is there. Finally it's awesome the behavior you know to to to look at their mountain peak and be like I know climbing push yourself get to the top. Look look down beat. I look at all that I did but I'm looking at high man. I got some big big plans man. I got some huge plains. I know you're fighting for this fictitious title but fictitious the company and all its running has never had a bad mother every title all and we'll just can't be coincidence that I'm WANNA WANNA people competing for this title is the hardest title out walking the plan. I mean they picked two dogs and that's for a reason in the history of this company. Have you heard him. PUT UP A I. I don't know why do you think so man. Why do you think well deserve but I'm wondering if in those plans there's a real belt in those pilots? Will it feel like you fell a short. If you don't get the actual title at some point or do you not care about that. You mean Blah on. I want to take everybody's heads in the top ten. I WANNA take their head in there so with it and if they have some Mickey Mouse title with their waste. I'M GONNA take that too. I just see my ma- maybe when I look at other divisions I could see ten like is he skills up when I look at my division I just see like I got my work out for me but every single one of these guys I'm GonNa Baptize them. I'm just going to separate myself from the pack in in his much way shape and form as possible so there's is somebody going out to spreading rumors that they have about worth getting for. I'm coming for you. That's it. There's no more to it. I'm coming for your head and I don't like the he say she say we're gonNA find out the only way that the reason that's fighting you know so whatever they ended up doing with the SEC- fighting built championships and that side I don't know but that bad motherfucker boat. There's going to be my main and after defended against whatever they deem to defend it against last one. WHO's the side on November second your your name? You're looking at the as you look at the the Alpha the the everything in Alpha and Omega is right here in front of you baby. Why would you ask such questions man? I know the answer. I feel like he would have a different answer. Do you know the answer to that. We'll we'll see November second. who was the Alpha? I can't wait. Thank you my man. I appreciate it November Second Madison Square Garden. UFC Two forty four whore Hay Mas Vidal Nathan D as for the BMX title so there you have it. I think I've been interviewing doing horrible Mas Vidal for about ten years. I think the first time was right after the Toby Imada submission loss in Bela Tor and I think that was my favorite one. The setting is just just amazing in New York over there. Thank you very much to the crew for allowing us to do the interview there that get up studio that little is amazing but just great insight into who this man is is how far he has come this doesn't happen in combat sports. You don't fight for sixteen years and I've forty seven pro fights and then blow up. It doesn't happen headline. MSG doesn't happen happen and so this is such a unique story and I mean it's just wonderful to see these two guys in particular who are sort of mirror images of each other from very different parts of the country coming together at the headline this show in less than two months time. I want to thank everyone who tuned in. I also want to note that December fourteenth card very much influx lex and don't count out the Irishman don't count them out. I think the fact that they put two title fights on that card rule them out for that card but it is imminent and we will see what happens but I think first quarter of twenty twenty things are going to happen here and we're ending the year on a very high note with the Carden Melvin the MSG card December fourteenth and then. I think interesting things are to come in the early portion of twenty twenty. We're even talking about the trophies coming back all very exciting. What's not exciting? We're off next week rob because Russia. I tried to fight a corporate. Jake said he wanted a day off so I respect that we got to honor the New Year but we'll be back in two weeks time and that will be right after the Melbourne show but you'll hear from me. I'll do the bad guy on Wednesday and the mayor reporters and even the radio show before two forty-three. Just this particular show off for a couple of weeks but don't worry you'll still see a lot of me and you'll still probably they be very sick of me by the time we return in two weeks all right. We're at a time. What a fun show? This has been what a memorable show great way to go into the bye week so to speak it reminds me of the buffalo bills going into foxborough next week. Are they play in Foxborough. I don't even know they're going to win obviously but I don't know if it's going to be a wrote winner anyway anyway. It's been a fun one. I WanNa thank everyone who tuned in WanNa. Thank everyone who stop. I want to thank vivid seats for being a proud sponsor of this program Graham one of the smart ones out there. Thank you very much Carlos. sparce congratulations to her on the big win and hopefully she stays safe in Guatemala. Thank you very much Jeremy Stevens. Hopefully we'll see that one soon very interesting story about what happened yesterday at the hotel thank you very much Leon Edwards great stuff from him interesting interesting times as well great catch up with Martin Kampman good luck to him in Mark Madsen on Saturday great to have the one and only Joey Dee as on the program. Thank thank you very much to him. All the best to Jack Hermansson this Saturday main event Copenhagen good luck to him against jared CANANEA. Thank you very much who Daniel cormet welcome back that was phenomenal stuff and of course thank you very much to horry Maswadeh for

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Episode 20: Cormier, Adesanya & Abdelaziz & Eubanks in studio, Miocic, Cannonier and more

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Episode 20: Cormier, Adesanya & Abdelaziz & Eubanks in studio, Miocic, Cannonier and more

"Uh-huh. Gentlemen. Back in your life on this Monday, November fifth two thousand and eighteen. Hello again, everyone marry a Hawaii welcome back to the program. Hope you had a nice week. Hope you had a nice weekend. It's very rainy afternoon here in New York City, and I do believe that I've a hole in my left shoe because by socks are soaking wet horrible. But it's okay, I'm excited about today's show. We've a lot to discuss with a lot of different people were coming off. You have two thirty New York City Madison Square Garden history was made on two fronts. A first time the m a heavyweight champion of world because let's be honest with you have see built is first time that the heavyweight title was defended at the mecca Ali Frazier. Lewis Holyfield, many other great boxing heavyweights have fought in that building the world's most famous arena, but never before and Emma may has been done. It was done on Saturday night. Daniel cormier is still the reigning defending UFC heavyweight champion he submits Derek Lewis in the second year. We're naked choke also of note that night. Oh, and by the way, the other thing was Dan accordia is the first minute to successfully defend. A built in two different classes, how about that huge night for the two thousand eighteen footer the year as of right this moment. Something's going to happen in the next two months. Ba- right now three no three finishes to belts for way. Classes pretty damn good year for the third nine year old Dana Cormie. Chuck race ozo- breaks, Chris widens heart in the third round. With knockout. What performance what fight that was? Unbelievable. Israel out of Sonya has arrived. He is no longer the future. He is the present what a win over Derek Brunson. Jared cannon year taking a fight on two weeks. Notice. A lot of fun things happen on Saturday. Of course, it wasn't the stat card that you'll see two five and two seventeen were. But it was a fun night at MSG. And as always luck going on in the world of 'em may and combat sports. How about Floyd Mayweather going to rise in? We'll talk more about that on the Poche show with Newark, Rick who is back from his six month long vacation, and I do believe Hawaii. And so we'll talk to him about that. We'll talk to him about two thirty all that and more. That's coming up on the post show. But today on the program we're talking to thirty. We've got three in studio guests we've got a lot of big name stopping by slummy run down today's lineup. And then we shall get to our first guest of the day. So jar Eubanks is going to join us at around three forty to talk about her win over rocks out of ferry. You probably know that she missed weight. She won that fight. But she was probably the one person on this card who could not miss wait, she missed weight, and she heard it from the local crowd. She's a New York fighter and. They booed her somewhat polarizing fighter now. But she is someone who seems to be embracing the booze. So that's interesting. She's going to be in studio. We have apparently squashed our beef. Speaking of beefs a lot of you are probably in the dark when it comes to my relationship. These days my business relationship if you will with Ali abilities. It has been a rough month for us. And so we have decided to have an airing of grievances on this program. I don't think you think this interview is going to go the way you think it's gonna go. That's just a hunch Elliott those will be in studio at around three o'clock, lots of talk about with him is out of sign. It will be back. The rare double double the rare two weeks in a row in studio. Visit it's only been done once before those John Cavanaugh before. And after two five out of sun is a second to do it. He was here last week back this week talking about the win over Derek Brunson. Jared cannon euro, join us at one forty five and the champ champ himself, the double check. Danna Cormet will stop by a man of his word tradition. Is he comes back after his wins? He'll be doing that in around twenty minutes. But first, let's talk to a man who has had an unbelievable month. Head coach over at the American kickboxing academy last month in Las Vegas. He was there when hubby Maga magnate one Saturday night, he was there when Daniel Cormet one what a month what a year for AK what a year for have your Mendez. He joins us now via the magic Skype. Hello heavier. Hello areo. Congratulations on a big night. Congratulations on a big month. Would you say that this may be one of the best months of your career? Yes. Yes. Definitely definitely has you. If if you're measuring it by populist movements. Yes. Higher percent to pay per views back to back main event, you know, historic winds to the biggest fight cards of the year. It's hard to top that right? Yeah. I've never seen it done. Now never seen the look on. All right. So let's talk about Saturday night. I call me wins. It was fairly one sided were you expecting it to be that one sided. I wasn't near. I wasn't expecting it. Because I never I never do that. I always always prepare my guys for five rounds, you know. And there was to be respected. And we didn't know exactly you know, how was going to go. We thought we were going out wrestle the hell out of him right from the get-go like, Dan Henderson style. And so I was confident all the way going in to it. But let me explain to go back to it. All started the call for mic Maynard about three weeks. He said, hey, what do you think about their Brunson, and these and I said I like the matchup. Yeah. Favors us. Yeah. I like it. He goes. Okay. Goes what do you think about number November third? I went oh, I said. Well, you know, I guess because you know, he's got a weakness as we expose, but you know, what let let the this decide that if this is I'm on board. So now, you gotta get DC to be on board. He calls. These CDC says, hey, let me make sure my hand holds out. And if my hand holds out on good next day, these hitting the pads went Rosendo Sanchez, and he said, he's good to go. So we took the fight is first barring session was horrific where like is crazy about we're going. Oh boy. So bad his where he hasn't done anything. Right. He's been doing commentating doing all these other things his first fired session was was not what we were expecting. Really? Yeah. His second one was like fifty percent better. And he's third one. Whereas like, we were like, okay, we have it. We haven't no problem. But then he's back went out. Yeah. And I wanna ask you I wanna ask you about the back of the second. But first how worried were you about the hand? Clearly, he didn't need in the fight. But just the fact that he was going in with a fairly injured hand, how worried were you? I was but we were hoping are wrestling with what you take what was going on. And if you watch the fight he didn't use his right hand that much. She was mostly using his left hand fear of that. Okay. So okay. Let's talk about the back. He told us on Saturday night about what happened. But what's the story from your perspective? When did you find out and how concerned were you when you actually saw the state that he was in? Okay. What normally these? He always goes through some kind of something. Always happens to him. And it's back went out about a week and half ago. And I was like crap here we go again, and he could hardly walk. You know? And you know, so we, you know, he does a the hyperbaric chamber where he goes to sleep, you know, a lot. And then all of a sudden he comes back next as feeling pretty good. He's like for wolverine, you know, always gets better quicker. So I'm going into the fight thinking. Okay. We haven't. Everything's perfect. Is last session was fantastic. I mean, he did perfect everything we needed from him was perfect. Then we're going. We're going to the fights. You know, I'm ready going to the fights. And crazy Bob says to me, hey, I didn't wanna tell you. But these back when out when he sneezed this morning without doctors with them for hours, and I'm might just turn white. You know, like oh. Now, I'm worried because we gotta take it easy. We gotta make certain we warm up. Right. So here I am always thinking about the warm the warm up. Okay. So I had the the people from the Rena turn on the heater to people more, you know, and, but then all of a sudden area when he starts doing hit when he starts talking to solve when he goes come on DC. Let's go, you know. That's when I knew that everything that I that. I was concerned about went away. Okay. Wow. What a story that would have been right. If he'd had to pull out because he's sneeze and blew out of that. He or of horrible horrible. Okay. So he wins. Thank god. Nothing happened with the back. He looked fairly. I mean, there were very few moments where it didn't look like he was in total control afterwards. He talks about Brock. Do you really believe he is sticking to this? He says it's done March. I'm turning forty. There's a pay per view two weeks for my birthday. It's going to be Brock less. Do you really believe that that will be retired? Fight. I want you know. I'm doing everything I can to to make that reality. You know, I wanted to retire. You know, I wanted to retire on top. You know, he he has so many other things to do aerial. He could join you, you know, how many of the things that he can do these. So so good at you know, he doesn't need the fight forever. You know, he's forty years old could going to be forty you know, he has enough money. So so why not make the big giant pay day with Brock and then move on you know, him as well. As anyone you know, how competitive he is do you really think he can walk away without third crack at Jones. I hope that he is. I want to believe he is. I wanna believe is why why don't you wanna see him beat John because I don't think he needs to how of meat anymore only if he wants to he don't need to not for his legacy. He doesn't need it. Okay. Well, why do you feel that way? Because to me there's an asterik behind that play and both fights as far as I'm concerned that that to me they don't count to me. Okay. So what do you say to someone who says, okay? You guys are pushing the Brock fight. He's got a checkered past as well. Why not just try to go for John and their retirement fight rather than broad who's coming off suspension to prize fighting. What is more Brock? Sorry. Yeah. No person. Is there anything that? Brought does that really concerns? Like, honestly feels to me like this is like the Floyd Connor fight for DC. Biggest name easiest fight. To me he's harder than than the than their Lewis. You know, he's a better wrestler. We can't raise can't wrestle him. We have to stand with this guy with Derek the plan was to take him down. I said to dad Henderson style. I go. Why would you wanna stand down Henderson when when he's got the H bomb? You know, said hey can. I said, hey, can I don't want you stand with him stupid. We were all all the coaches Roseanne, though, Sanchez Reutemann those and buck grains about cook. We're all saying the same thing over Nogan take down. We don't want. We don't want you get into fight because he does that. They I knew like with dick with Gustaf it, you know, I was perfect. And all of a sudden Casaus hits them with the knee. That was it. He didn't give it no more. He was gonna hit back. And that was it. No more take him down. And we tried to take him down. He wouldn't do it. He didn't want to do it. He halfway dried. You know? When you know, you're fighting, you know, your fighter he just wanted to be a opposite. Because with that me beautiful. Now, let me ask you about last month because we haven't talked after two twenty nine Habib economy Gregor afterwards. You know, the mailing twos. We know about all that and more. What do you want him to do next up to you? I haven't heard you really weigh in on this. There's a lot of talk about this that it seems like Floyd is off the table. Thank God for now. But what do you want him to do next? Got you. But I wanted to be one of that fight the biggest prizefight of and also let's face it. Okay. I heard it's Japan. Yeah. Yeah. Always known for doing some sneaky crap. So who knows how real that's going to be is going to be a real fight. It wasn't going to be then not to be the what what the deal is gonna be is going to be a real fight or exhibition fight. What is it going to be? We don't know. Japan's known for that. And also I heard getting a hundred million. Okay. If he's only getting one hundred million why the hell is Floyd gonna do something for a hundred million when he knows damn wealth. You find someone like how is going to make three to four doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense to me. So something's going on what's going on. I don't know. Is it entertaining for Japan? Great. But I mean for the mass public over here. They don't know the other guy. So I personally don't think it's a big deal on the US. I think it's a big deal in Japan. I think is huge into pan. And I think that's probably all they care about. It's going to be huge over there. So you saying that you're still holding out hope that his next fight is against Floyd. No, no, I can't pull that hold on. We don't know what's going on. I'm just saying I don't know what's going on with the other one. Whether it's a real fight or exhibition. I'm just talking numbers here Floyd talks three hundred million. Plus, right. So he's getting one hundred million from what I hear. And I don't see the paper of you being high over here you I don't see. No, no because his name. And it's going to be in the middle of the night. But DC has said publicly few times. Look, I love hubby. I don't wanna see him fight Floyd Floyd gonna beat him. He's just a better striker. We all know what he's good at. We all know it gives good at as his striking coach. Do you see any scenario in which you could actually beat Floyd Mayweather in a boxing match, well to be realistic where you know, we have a chance, but we have the same kind of cast Conard in which is you've you've figure that one out. We wouldn't fight the same as Connor. But where we have the same chance. I could tell you this. We'll go twelve rounds. He doesn't stop him. No, okay. We go. So we have around the potential knock out what about from an MA perspective. If this suspension is into by what do you think that they're going to give him? What do you think nomad is going to give him? What do you think? He. I think probably gonna find him anywhere from two hundred fifty to four hundred thousand dollars in probably suspend them from six to eight months. Maybe that's what I'm thinking. They've been pretty harsh in the past with everybody in because the public was involved in this, and I see that as a potential. I hope I'm wrong. I hope I hope they understand that that the man was you know, his buns were being pressed right from two months out. And I don't know who in the world would never attacked those guys any sooner. I think anybody else would have tax sooner with all the tax was put on him, you know, from his father to to his religion too political. I mean, I mean he hit every single button. And I just wish you wouldn't. He's such a great fighter Connor is. And he's such a great marketer that why did he go there? And he didn't have to do that. He could've went the other route got just as much attention and not create. Hey, you know, he created. Hey, you know, and I just wish you wouldn't have done. It is a great fighter is one of the greatest. I feel. Well in in. And I thought he fought a fantastic fight. You know, he came out. Really smart. I didn't expect him to come out. And do it. He did which is what he came at us. I thought he was going to do is trademarks laidback same back, wait to counter us as we're coming in. That's what we were planning for. But when he came in and attacked us. And then, you know, a lot of people are not giving him enough credit and the way he defended in the first round because I know how good hubby. Is extremely well. Man. He took no damage. You know, none at all. And it wasn't until you start getting a little tired. And of course that overhand right in. And I don't think he was ready for for for the striking. I don't think he was ready for striking. I told you guys every single time. I do an interview hobby striking is getting better don't sleep on it and everybody only striking every single time. And look what happens Dana white said on Saturday night that he spoke to Connor Connor wants the rematch. What do you think about that? Do you have any interest in that for your guy? You know to me, it's whatever the you have seen whatever he wants. If that's what he wants then. Okay. I don't know. I haven't talked to Habib I've been trying to get a hold of them. But aren't you know, the time difference over there? And you know, hey, if that's what the UFC wants and hubby once and I'm in. So you haven't had a discussion with him about what he wants to do next. No. The only discussion I had is he told me he said, I want I want I want may with coach I want Mayweather, please. If you people talk, you push Mayweather, really want Mayweather 'cause. Yes. I want may weather. It goes if it doesn't happen. Okay. But I want him. I said all right. Okay. All right. So, hey, whatever that kid wants whatever reason he wins, man. Every time he's been in the Jimmy tells me how to do this. And I'm looking at like, no, you're crazy. No, no, please. Let me do it. Please, please. And he ends up dominating. I'm like how the frequency do it. He's so strong his dad trained him to just be mentally straw. Is stronger than anybody. I've ever I've ever felt and look in other thing area. This is how strong is his religion. Okay. After the fight, you know, he was the five the biggest fight of his career. We're at all these house, and he says to me, and my friend Jake Jacob Chabot says he goes, hey, can you guys please excuse me? I have to go pray. Wow. Okay. You give me a break. You think that you attack his religion? That's not gonna affect this poor guy. It sure as hell did. Yeah. And you know, it's like how can you Paul them for what he did? I don't think anybody in the right mind that understands who loves their family and their dad that understands that those are the kind of things that men from people kill you for that. I remember talking to you win. This fight was first announced and asked you if you had any concern that he would be to emotional in the fight. Clearly, it did not affect him. He fought at his best. He looked for nominal. But did you have an inkling that if he won the fight that something might happen where you worried all week long that something might happen. Because how personal this got? I was worried about during I wasn't thinking about after. So everyday I will talk to him. Please. Remember us everything he's got to go against him. He's gonna talk father is going to talk about politics gonna talk religion. I need you to stay on the state relaxed because he has coach I'll stay relaxed everyday area was talking to him. And then when the fight was over I was out celebrating with people that I know saying, blah, blah, blah, and all of a sudden had hype. And then all of a sudden I went, dammit, why did I? To him about after I did not talk about after how to act, you know. 'cause I know if I would have done that put it in his head two months out after you beat them be a professional. Stay calm, stay relaxed. The people don't wanna see, blah, blah. I didn't do that. I did not do that. And then like a dump I try to get in there and police tell me stale, stay back. Well, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna listen with the law says nobody beats the law the law tells you stay back stay back. You know, I noticed that he apologized to there was a clip of him saying sorry to afterwards. And you said you don't have to apologize. Did you feel like at any point? It got a little too far. Maybe not even with Habib. Both other members of the team. I know, you know, viral you coach him as well. Like were you disappointed about anything that happened afterwards? I was disappointed the junk h. Yes. Absolutely. Because regardless regardless is still wrong. I understand why he did it. But it's still wrong. I can't condone that I can't say no, I don't blame him. No bullshit. You know, it was wrong. But but I do understand why in I'm not in his shoes. And I I'm not religious like he is. But I'll tell you the only thing that would affect me as family if someone talks about my family, 'cause my father a rat a terrorist and all these kind of things, I don't know. I bought attacked them at the press conference. You know, I probably can say I wouldn't have I probably would have, you know, and he waited that long. So that's pretty amazing. What is your gut say right now as far as next fight? What do you think happens does he fight? While you're they know wants that one O'Connor Connor said today. No Connor said today. Yeah. You know, to be honest with you Mike says data's the boss. So if we can say I can say Conor, but Dana could go watch ESP or I want Tony. What do you want your way? If they said to you, what do you want? What would you? What would you like to see you want? The Tony fight you want the DSP what do you want? And you want the Connery match. I personally would want the Connery Magid. But I would like for it to be keep three items out of it. You know, talk talking to now because he's such a great marketer, and you know, to me Connors, one of the greats. And he I don't care what anybody says, he's a great fighter. I've always respected him. And I was well respect him. Just you know, if he can't just if it does happen, just, you know, say something else. Don't don't don't include that stuff. Do you think Zubaira will be cut? I would hope not I would think that would be a bad mistake because Habib is one hundred percent loyal, and he'll give up his whole career. He will give up his whole career for for his friends. Probably is he will die for his friends. So if they do that, and then they lost ho crew all of while you think all of them will leave all of them will is just where they are. What what are you hearing about his status right now? I'm hearing that everything is going to work out. Gotta see what the December tenth commission meeting. But I'm hearing that it's all working out. I'm hearing that everybody's looking at everything they're looking at the videos. They're looking at the was Connor also to Connor struck his cousin when he was on the fans as cousin was looking to jump over to try to help and then Connor cold them. Anyway in Connor's defense. You know, he's you know, he's defendant is friends so for war. So, you know, but he did started. You know, he, you know, have started jumping defense by Connor. Started next by by punching his cousin. You know? That's all all this started. So he had he not done anything. No one would've come after him for anything. But he is just as guilty as how eve is. Wow. What a month for you. Unbelievable. Not bad for a little Jim in San Jose, California to the biggest of the year. You got the double champion. You could be the biggest fight of all time. Congratulations have year, really happy for you guys. Enjoy the victories. And what are you give another fight this weekend and Denver? What do you have next? We have Louise opinion. That's right. That's right. Bob ross. Justin Willis, getting making his big debut against mar content. Australia expecting good results on that one in the white grant is fighting in Milwaukee on December fifteenth, and and then Roussillon might other heavyweight from from Russia. He'll be fighting soon. And Sergei also to the new one that just signed he had been training with us too. So we'll see we'll see what happens, but there's a lot of good things. And the biggest one of all his, hey, man. Get came Alaska's going guess, where's where's he's been ready to go? So what's the problem? Negotiations broke negotiations. I don't know what's going on is negotiations. But he's ready to go. He's hungry. You know, I was working them out in in in New York in the room. He's he's ready to go. He's been ready to go. It's just a matter of people coming together, his lawyer his manager with the UFC and ironing out. But that he is healthy. Yeah. Are we waiting for that that that's the only thing holding it up? All right. You know, it isn't. He doesn't wanna fight. It's just a matter of them coming up hitting the right numbers that they want. I mean, come on everybody everybody that I walk when I walk with him. He's attacked everywhere. You know, he's very very popular people wanting they miss them. They all wanna see him back. I wanna see him back. You wanna see him back? Everybody was him back. You know? So let's get back. You think he fights again? Yes. Okay. Yes. Yes. He fights fights for who. I hope it works out. But but he fights definitely bites. Okay. Wow. The he might leave. I hope not I hope they work it out because if he doesn't if he doesn't get what he wants. He's not fighting. Okay. No money as his contract. You know? So it's the money. It's obviously. Yeah. But I don't know what it is. I don't know what the numbers are. They don't tell me what it's probably good that. I don't know anyways. I'm a big mouth, I blurted out. So it's good that I don't know any other particulars have your thank you very much. Congratulations all the best. We'll talk to you soon. All right. There is have your Mendez headman over at the American kickboxing academy in San Jose, California. And interesting nugget there about Kim Velazquez who was in New York, and that's one of the cool things about AK one of the most loyal teams as far as everyone travelling to the events having their guys back. I mean Rockall supposed to fight on that card gets injured. And and you would think it was devastating still shows up still there to support DC Cain was there. They all fly in. Josh thompson. I saw on the street as well. So huge month. Huge thirty. As for that team with the Bieb winning on October six Daniel cornea winning Saturday night. And they've got some big ones violent Bob Ross making his return on Saturday at U of C Denver the twenty fifth anniversary show. So it never ends in the fight game. And in particular, I k- when they have so many fighters their matter moments. We're going to be joined by Mr. Daniel cormier, the double champ. And what a stretch it has been for him. And in particular on this show. The man is a man of his word he said last week that he'd be back when he won and he will be hopefully joining us at a matter of seconds as well later on. We'll be joined by Jared cannon near who had a big win on Saturday took the fight on two weeks notice against David branch in a new way class, and he looks like I mean, it's unbelievable. How different this man looks deep which is also gonna join us is out of Sanya in studio suggest Eubanks in studio and manager to the stars Ali abilities will also be. Joining us in studio. Great tweet from DC earlier this morning running down his accomplishments this year. Three now three titles. Two different way. Classes I said last night it feels like he's the front runner right now for fighter. This is around the time when you start to think about who's the fighter of the year. And when you consider the year that he's had Habib's had a great year. Although the Barbosa flight was technically in two thousand seventeen so he's only to no. Israel Sonya went foreign oh. Anthony Smith had a good year as well. But. I think two different weight classes to belts three finishes against the top contenders. 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And I'm talking about a very long time. D C is on the match Skype. That's how big this is. Hello daniel. I don't see. I don't see myself. What do you mean? You don't see me? I c I don't see myself. Now, you just flip the camera, and we're looking at your trader Joe's in rich moisturizing. Now, you're back. You don't have to see yourself. Tell the world if you could see me now now we're back. Now, we're back to the moisture national. This is great. This is great. You're on your on Gilroy hawks baby. The old the old got it doesn't even use a computer. I can't believe you did Skype for this one. That must mean, it's a big deal. You want to be seen? Roy wrestling cO. We address something right off the top DC. I get a lot of people who say man, you asked if she to be onto I've Jewish guilt. You ask them to be on your kind of pushing have have I asked too many times, tell me is it going to be too much this idiot. Okay. Very upset. If you didn't ask me on this week while that means a lot. But I'm sorry. You're in the news all the time. Like you've had a crazy like the past four months, you're breaking records or defending titles. You're taking notice John jobs. It's hard not to talk to you. And I have a feeling we're going to be talking to you again soon when you except your fighter of the year. Ward. What do we what do we got him? Yeah. Oh. Give me she please. What do we have there? I just wanted to. I want kinda show few of my my toys. Wow. How many do you have? Eighty eight. They give you a new one every time, I guess area. I guess you could call me a gold digger. Smart. I guess he could call me a gold digger. Wow. That how many have right there. Oh my gosh. Just three three the earlier ones. Okay. Look at that. Man. Life is good life is good. Okay era. Top is very very good as it's off right now. Can you can you sort of? Well, you really did bury the lead on Saturday. Can you give me the real run down the hour by hour rundown of the sneeze heard round the world? What happens tummy you wake goes on as we collect more belt here. We welcome in more toys look at this. This is unbelievable. Okay. What what happens? So. I was in the morning in. So my back is kind of best up. Right. So I got up in the morning, and I was like all its five day. I was like, yes. Perfect. Because I've got I've got a bad back. And sometimes it kind of goes down the left side of my my leg. It's my what my oldest is really bad generally around three weeks training camp. I get this. But I use that like five weeks can't let so tonight just kind of get over it. But. This one on fight week. I was like oh my bags ball, but warm good get going Saturday morning area. I give up. My things are perfect. I feel no pain walk into the bathroom, ice knees. And I will got no it's I bit over because sometimes you eagle shoot go over e kinda Greig like my old. No it hurts. And I was stuck over. I was like man, I'm really earth. So I call Bob guys down for run. I stretch stretch real good. My dad's bother me man got on that treadmill? Rand Tuesday was like I can't do happening. We go back to my room bothered him run out to get heating pads. We call the UFC Dr Davidson comes to my room getting evaluation. They tell me I can't take anything because in New York yet vows ending rose. I got like a paint shot or something. New york. Let you do nothing. Take a couple of Tylenol and be done. So heavy came over massage me gave me a stem machine. I was on that thing all afternoon bed. Chris Camacho rhyming through two extra them sessions and in a row five o'clock win for walk after I walked kinda started to lose a little bit steak died but round two o'clock. Bob was like either you're going to be better. Are you're not flying. Great. Wow. Were you freaking out? Free. And I was like how am I supposed to explain this? Right. Like I kept saying one way to win the fight knows to not now. But to my knowledge I came to find out that he had to he could've won by four. Because this if I didn't fight you have won the fight. By went to the arena was like I can't do this guys here to fight even want. Wow. Crazy. There's there's no returning from that. That would have been a stain on your legacy forever out via sneeze out because but then outta turned into maybe the freighter Derek Lewis, you stay right would have been like this guy's really truly hurt. But it would have been being afraid of Derek didn't wanna fight that that felt like a clinic. Right. I mean, like, look, I'm wrestling expert. I'm not a technical guy. I know my role, but like the headlock to the ankle pick trip, and even I was recognized like this like he's having a field day. I feel like you're having fun out there. I was been got some good techniques off he's done it. A while. I've always said that might take off. It's is a very high because I keep trying to throw different things at equal until something sticks. So I do I try to run the pie trying to get your position. That's my ideal position is to just get him up lifted. Maybe flip them are thrown through the air. But guys got sleep. You guys up on the conversation. That guys got the guys have gotten to the point now where they don't wanna get picked up. They wanna stay grounded so drop all their weight. So now, I try and kick out their back foot knocks down. Then we got back up like, okay snatch singles on this side of the single third time. I got the single putting up on the tree top right up to the shoulder kick the back foot out front headlock ako pick out who am I like, kill Sanderson. Bits off on like it was great. He went back with. No, they were actually scoop the ACL friends that our position with ill. There was also a great great isn't annoying when they're doing you. And you're doing this like you are you are showing excellence and the fans are booing. I just think that I just think that the. The. You ship wrestling on TV, isn't all that high. But would they were in a person that watches Russell's like, oh, this is good technique is technical wrestling. But to generalize. Like, why is he going down say? Nobody's impressed with this. And that the other my pick somebody up and I slam him. But that's only because I am not for the wrestling technique. But realistically people walk into that read it that night with an idea that the may see something truly special in that was there at Lewis scored that upset, but that number was going to happen. I was well prepared and. I will never underestimate anyone. So being that I had short time. I all fair there. So the last time you competed at MSG was two thousand three they give you that amazing plaque which clearly touched you, and I thought it was an amazing classy thing that they did for you was it at all familiar backstage. Did you remember like did you take yourself back the fifteen years ago before all this started? What was it like to actually do what you had always set out to do? And that's headline MSG. It was it was familiar, but it's so that we were wrestling world championships. We got to use the Knicks locker room as the world heavyweight champion. I did not use the Knicks locker while. I. It was fine. But. It was familiar to Lynn remember. Just that that that aura of the real there aren't many places that you walk into in go while this MSG I felt that when I walked to the arena on Saturday night. And it was truly amazing. I'm just a lucky man to accomplish the things that I accomplished in also been to the places that I've been the crazy thing is how all the star seem to be aligning like you sneak this one and you get a nice pay day against the favorable opponent, Adam ac-, which is where you always wanted to fight. It didn't look like it would align. And now they have this event in Vegas, which is a nice little break with with with the timing. That Brock will be like, it's so weird. How all this is just timing out. So perfectly with your plan that you you've been talking about two years now to retire at forty it's strange, right? It's unbelievable with grains. I knew when I took this if I can get through this one. I was like there's gotta be a fight. In March or late cranberry kind of works. But then for it to be March third. It's just ridiculous like and in Vegas like it seems as though I'm not the only one plan all be like somebody else's planning on my behalf. Yeah. Good. Have you heard from Brooke and her bra? Last time I heard for rock. Was a little bit ago at getting back from Saudi Arabia. Not let a three day travel. He's on a jet. He's home by now. Right. He brought lives on ninety shooter cell service. Busy guys. Get ready for the heavyweight title fight to me, the most notable thing that happened all weekend wasn't necessarily what happened in the fight on Saturday is what you said on Friday after the ceremonial way. And I'm Daniel Cormie. And I'm the greatest of all time the goat. And that you admitted afterwards to us on our show that you sort of said that because you knew who was in the building just a couple of minutes prior. They're still on your mind. And that's why you know, I love you. You know, I have a soft spot. I just have a hard time believing you're walking without fighting John one more time. I just I can't I can't buy. There's no disrespect. I'm not calling you liar. You're just too damn competitive. You know? Yeah. No. That's it man. That's it. I don't need it anymore. You know, sometimes you need things. Sometimes you don't in. I I mean. You know, I just don't stand. I don't understand the logic of. I need anyone anymore. I don't come to terms with everything like I said area because he was gone so much I had to remove myself from the situation. So completely that it almost became like not reality. Now, I would happen. Truly retrain my mind to understand that he's a even back in the game. The reality is can I really trust that he's truly going to be back in the game. Because history shows that there will probably be some sort of issue either. Ford Augusta's inviter after the Guston fight it if not regressing fight we schedule a fight. They're definitely going to be issue. Because there's always been addition while I take it back. I actually believe you now, this is the first you seem sincere when did you come to this realization that you don't need him? It was a long time. I mean, I mean, honestly when if you saw issue saadah, right or when when he kill the after the trip a why when I cried, and I was like, oh my goodness. On family vacation. Like, I can't believe this is happening to get. I thought to myself if you sign it is is right. The greatest testing organization in the entire world after failing once in getting a year, you feel twice the obvious suspension is going to be about two years. I'm not going to be here two years. So after know that my career is going to happen be done without this guy. But I was your side to change the game a little bit on this. So it was like, I stay true. Who I am? It just seemed as though. In regards Jobim's, you cited it so. Now, he's back with I add to really come to terms with the fact that after watching certain guys one night told on himself in that to you like literally like did something which either you to get to years thinking months, eighteen months. It was his first time was in his first time. Yeah. First time. He did anything. I think he told on something that eighteen months. John got twice and got fifteen months. You says they are I have to understand that. I will never get another opportunity. So I can't term do you think it will be emotional when you walk away. Do you think you'll miss this? Or did you you do actually think you're ready in your kind of looking forward to walking away. I'm not looking forward to it a missing a lot. I love competing. I mean, I think that's what makes me who I am the competition aspect of it. And I'm gonna miss that. Like, I'm really gonna miss being able to walk there and fight. Here the chairs here the booze because all to go on reactors of are usually the same. If me getting my raise in you cheered in the I'm gonna miss that. But it comes to everybody live my whole life in those situations. Like, I spent more time in high levels fourth, and I spent on this earth without it. Like, I started doing this and a high level at fifteen twenty four years of competition at the highest level. I. Okay. You mentioned the post by press conference that you have some big things in the works. Not just what do you got? Can you tell us can you feel in? Jason jinx it until what I'm. That's a good thing. Go come in. And you said you'll be making more post fighting than you did while being a fighter that's wild this and say it, and I made a lot of money fighting. So I've got some big things coming and do you go about like you're wearing the Gilroy shirt? You're the head coach over there at the Gilroy high school right local high school. Do you? Go back today. You take. We have practice thirty on the track running. They were billing. We got Brexit three thirty a group message today talking about the repercussions of missing. Okay. Coats is not okay. Double champ. Eight time champ is not say, okay. Coach will be there while you don't take any break. Now where I'm calling the kids on Sunday morning about hydration. Like was wrestling they hydration process where you have to wear certain amount in order to wrestle at a certain wake less might team. Greg number ten in the country right now. So but in order for us to be one of the top two teams in the country. Our kids have to be at the ways that they're supposed to wrestle at in Seoul on Thursday. We do our hydration that go high school. So this to get some weight often that's gonna start sock new. It's unbelievable that you're thirty nine. And you know, in your retirement fight is if I told you xactly this time last year that you would have had the year that you had this year, you probably would've called me a liar. You're probably gonna win the fighter of the year and a year ago, this this this time, you're going into that Volkan fight and sort of a shame to the fact you're the light heavyweight champion. Remember, you don't wanna hold the belt and all that this is it's unfathomable. It's unbelievable that this year has been what it's been especially at my age. Right. Thirty nine years old most guys down by mid thirties. You know, obviously, I started a lot later than other guys. But. Either. I. Think about think about this one. I went into this year after getting not going crying to defending light headway time in winning by finish over the number two guy in the world. A guy that was on. It absolute care. What do I do the topic? Okay. From the find the greatest heavyweight of all time knock him out in the first round finish third fight number two guy in the world and heavily invent on tear one nine out of ten and I finished within two rounds. It's like you can't even dream this stuff in for people to saying. Well, I don't you know, it's kinda boring fire like how finish everybody all you want to see a personnel vicious fights. I finished fights the. There's been guys that have had tremendous years. Israel sign you had tremendous year. But the level of competition is just vastly different. I've been in all championship fights. Even Brian Ortega is to pull the upset of max Holloway. How do you compare it? You know, when I won in the finish his belt one another belt defended it all in the same year. I pay being run for fighter of the year in the man think about your boy might even be up for that speed next year at lawyer. Upward s breezy. Right. I'm gonna put in a good word cried in the octagon. Yeah. It'd be SB within a year. That's nuts. It's cool to see all the fighters. Happy for you. But this time in particular felt like I saw Draymond green shouting you out. I saw Kristaps Porzingis shutting you out is there one is there one shot or text or someone does he have to be famous, but someone that reached out that really touched you. This is crazy. Right. So I'm in my my locker. At. There's a guy from Louisiana named Kevin gates. Right. He's saying this local really really low this stuff. He's real big rapper, and they banned Reuss in Reina's on what the goal why would ever just get done? Mike photographer. I am the bay his computerize in this. Kevin gates on FaceTime. Right. But he starts to me. And I'm like things gates, really. Appreciate it. But then he talking game. The white right now, he just kept talking basic thing also talking to Kevin gays, but then we were just talking and talking and talking like gates us. I have to go. Finally, he let me go to call in. In. The call. It was kinda cool that I'm talking to Kevin gates is about to want to be offered on it finally gate. I have to ask my seriously. Do I have to like? What the call me? It was the greatest thing in the world, but drain on green cool guy Greek diet was like it's just a lot more notoriety of later my career. Why does it seem like there's a direct correlation between the amount of time that you win how dominant you're looking and the higher your pants are getting I feel like the pants are getting higher and higher these days. What's going on over there? Fatter trip that women use. We're pull their pants trying to let's live, right? Hey, let's thing man. I do wrestling practice. I all the kids like host point pants hate it like we hate that. Drove away your pants up in tuck yourself to your sweat of guys called down. John Smith is do that. In John's not a fact island John pitches to be on the need is they all. Do. I kinda hate that. Look just kinda will air it. It's so ridiculous data's man on the planet. That's you. But hey, it's not everybody doesn't hate it though. Like the other fighters, especially ones that arrest is like this is like the guy from the gym. He's like unaware that he's Brian pool is pants. And so now on this Monday the hand the back. Okay. You think you're good for March? Everything's to go. I have the punch it much my right hand. I mean, I don't know if I even through a bunch on the feet, maybe like two. But isn't it truly amazing that I'm the small guy the fact that and I just walked these big news down. It's absolute say that they back up. What you think they would just take a stand and say, no, I'm not backing up. Great. We will miss you. When you're gone, my man, we really will. I mean, it's just amazing. What you've done in particular this year, look at those belts. It's unbelievable. I wonder how much that ways right now on you too much. It's incredible. Can you stay up holding them? Can you stand up holding them? Or is that too heavy? Not a lot back to slip out of Garin us little by way. I just wanted the visual. But that's all good. Look at thirty nine years old. You're you're marvel my man, thank you so much. Thank you for always coming on the show before it after an honor as always to watch you live. We'll get it one more time. And I'll have to say that. I'm a little sad about it. All because I feel like you're just getting warmed up. I know you're thirty nine, but I feel like you're actually in your prime. And I know I know that was the question that led to the story about your back, but you are so dominant your thirty nine year killing it. Can you be in your forty? I don't know all prime the Gulf you're going. I hope that I'm as good as as you are at at at forty doing what I do. Go ahead lasting. Yeah. Very easy to get give. Okay. So I want to tell you guys gotta do website seek dot com. I've had it for weeks. It's really said anything about it. I've been buried as for check checking out these see cormier dot com. It's got some t shirts shopping videos. News is also what the very ex-. In a happy about is going to be coming up very soon. It's a the coaches quarter. So you'll get to go and see the technique for resemble Sanchez. Bob Cuckmere Noverre how they're Mendez really crews all my coach is going to give kipps and techniques as to what they're trained to fire that the kickboxer kademi, so good. It's like, it's it's a good website where you can get on my stuff. All my social media will be there. It's Graham Twitter Facebook, everything one stop shop for everything DC. So love hate me. Check me out. Go. Learn from the best coaches in the world congrat- on that. Congrats on the win. And congrats on your saints. What a weekend for you. Holy smokes. Wow. All the state of Louisiana day to LSU to pull it off. If you have the Sates myself and LSU, and you go to one in those under those it's a good weekend for the vote for the thirty third south coast, Louisiana, a it's a great state. I love being from their true. The support that the stated show will be Popeye's chose there. But the state of the Lisi Anna chills, Daniel cormier, or did you have the checking by the way? No, I. Probably got the elevator. Oh, really hungry like that. But but I I have a strange suspicion. You bought the chicken wasn't spicy. I know brother that chicken because a brother bud spicy chicken for you bought the file chicken one. I've still never tried it. I've still never tried. I don't know. What's not you buy the Popeye's chicken and get the Despites you'll be like who? Alice. Like, what bitter salt like ooh that's two season spice. I'm glad you had a and I love what you did covering them up. You gotta stay loyal to your to your team, and they weren't loyal to you. So while done much love. Thank you so much for doing this. Congrats. We'll talk to Sinn. Thank you. Thank you. Join. That's the bit. Thank you, my friend areas. The double champion himself, Daniel Cormet unbelievable. What a performance out of him on Saturday night. What a win for him on Saturday night. And it appears as though will get him one more time that's early March in Las Vegas. Okay. Another big performance on Saturday. Another man who want a performance bonus. We'll be talking to one later on Israel Sonya. But Jared Cananea what a performance out of him taking this fight on two weeks notice in his third way class one eighty five looks like a different person and Dana white told a great story afterwards about being somewhat worried after what happened in the globe to sheriff fight in Brooklyn a couple years ago that David branch would be the wrong kind of opponent firm. Well, that wasn't the case he wins via stoppage. And now all of a sudden we have a new face. We have a new player one eighty five. His name is the killer. Gorilla has named jarred. Kennedy. I do believe he is joining us right now via Skype. Jared. How are you? I'm doing good area. Thank you have me on. And yes, I'm really it's a pleasure where we off to. I'm going to. Okay, congratulate the gym you take the morning off. Now, man. Relatively. So have. Ready for five bucks? Okay. Can I ask you favor? I think the volume is a little too high because we're getting feedback is it possible to lower. You'll you'll still be able to hear hear me. How's that? Yeah. That's better. That's better. Can you hear me? I can't get enough. Okay. Fair enough. Congratulations on the win. How did you transform your body? Like that Jared. I hardly recognized you I remember he was a heavyweight and light heavyweight you look completely different person. What happened? How did you do this? Quit. My job quit. My full time job. Of course, everybody knows that in on a move down to the lab to partake in the more consistent program on top of that, you know, just the dietary adjustments and just bunch of hard work. Why did you feel like you? You were best. I wanted five. Like, this was the smart move. That's a twenty pound cut. Why did you do it? Well, I'm not a natural heavy, even I'm not a big might have either. I'm pretty muscled up. But I'm not, you know, too muscled up like bulking or anything like that. So I had to wait to rose in the wills melting off. And it was only maritime like I said, even the heavy went. I was always saying, you know, middleweights probably gonna be future. And here we are when you accepted the fight on two weeks, notice how much did you weigh initially when you took that when you took that fight. What I accept the fi? I was around two five two three after workouts are probably like two ninety nine to ninety eight. Okay. And I was already in Ryan. How's reading ago, I heard that you ask for the fight you wanted? This is that accurate. Yeah. When I when I signed on from our fight in Argentina, I told them if you know some short notice come out because I wanted to fight early. I wanted to find Sony and I'm glad they listen to a game of the call when when they make the adjustments to the card, and I was ready. I was with more than willing to step up. Dana white said that you know, he thought that he pushed you a little too quickly with the global fight. And he didn't wanna make that same mistake because he said that you arrested today, and he was concerned when this idea was brought up about you fighting branch on short notice. Like, maybe this isn't the right move for your career at this point. Why did you feel like this was a good match? What was it just about? You know, it was just about taking a fight on the matter who 'cause 'cause branches notorious for being that kind of guy who can smother you on the ground. Well, we we try and pretty hard at the lab in my coaches have faith. I have my coaches and in the program that they have there, and I've been learning a lot in the last year. I'm not saying, I'm I'm a expert wrestler anything, but I know how to get off my back or not how you know the submitted in and help down or thin periods of time. So I was good to go. I was ready. I was ready for his wrestling FAM. I'm ready to get taken down. But I'm also ready to get back up. What was your confidence like going into this fight after how the the last two fights went for you? Did you feel like this was a must win? Absolutely m being on to fight scared is not fun. It wasn't something. You know, the top glory. I wanted to pass, but you know. Maybe hunt more fear in the just want to keep this going and take it all away. But did you feel like you had to win this fight to stick around? Well, no, I had two more fights my contract. Yeah. You know? How that goes? They cut you at any time. Yeah. They could. But I'm excited fighter whether whether I win or lose. So what about fighting MSG? Did that mean anything to you? Oh, man. You know, it would mean anything to to everybody it will mean something to every fighter fighting. That's like the pinnacle of sports arenas right there. But when I was there the energy to fight week was awesome in in Manhattan in New York Times square. But when I was in MSG, the energy was even even more profound came to the worst put it in. When I was I was getting ready to walk out. There are some kids standing up there and his pants like pointing at me. I got it was it was like Saint Peter at the parents gates accolades all the great things I've done he was like you're the best yet. This. You can beat anybody just pump me up, man. And I ain't never felt in the NFL the motivation. Like that man. It's like he put a spirit of me. And it was like I wish I wish I knew it was man, right, man. He was probably so much. I took off my my my fight jersey. And I had to give it to my in he earned it just by putting me up like that. Oh, I'm happy. You said that because I kind of made a joke like cannon years. So proud of his physique that I don't usually see we don't usually see someone walk out without the jersey on. But you actually gave it to the kid. That's why you walked out shirtless. Man. That kid was like I said, you know, he was I said it was like Saint Peter. I ain't never seen today. Among like, Saint Peter telling me all the great things I've ever done in my life listening accolades, it was just pumped me up. And it was the best thing. This is the best thing is been spilling the world seeing that little boy he was so into it so publicly right? My is pointing at me that's incredible. Bumps just talking about it right now. How old you think he was he'd hatch been my, you know, nine ten years old damn thing about like he would have been great on. My daughter is on the way out. Not it came at the medicine out. Glad another way. Okay. Wow. Well, if that kids watching well done my man well done if you are watching I would like to sign that shirt for you. Okay. Autograph? That's incredible. Well, done by the way, I noticed afterwards because I've talked to you about this in the past like how you hold the tally. Right. You didn't do that this time? Or did you that? I miss it. No. I didn't do it. How come? Well. I'm not doing Judaism, no more. What happened? Well, you know, my again, my spiritual system has shifted initially shifted from, you know, southern Baptist pitch vanity to Judaism. And now get more into my roots. No, more African spirited systems. And they are definitely more fitting for me. Okay. Wow. When did this happen this happened after a job? So I'm sorry. Moving around right now. Okay. I quit my job, and I moved to Phoenix. So I didn't have a lot of distractions with Workington day trying to train all night and try to, you know, the family man for the rest of my time. So I have a lot of my hands been here about to jam coming hall. Wrestling, relaxing. I have a friend who put me onto a few brothers. Who who teach? We'll take a lot of I won't say African spirituality. But they teach a lot of stuff that we're not that. We're not taught, you know, especially in school or just in our daily lives. They don't out so got into that. Listen to these guys talking about, you know, sacred sciences and geometry and different types of stuff. Wow. You know, just it really. I don't even know how to find the but. But there's so much to is really deep is history to be honest. But that's essentially where my walk is in the last year in okay? I always love seeing you hold a tally. But you know, if you found your your your new calling then much respect you gotta do what's best for you. And you left your job. Of course, we remember used to work in the nation business, right? Yeah. Yes. Working for the FAA FA. That's right. How long were you there for? I was there for nine years men. Was it hard to leave now? Oh, you didn't like it. No. I'm not built for desk job. Right. So now, you got the life on your one hundred percent fighting all the time. That's all you have to worry about. Do you feel like you make enough to support your family? Well, that's why quit my job. Because I got to a point where I was making enough to support my job as long as active fighting. Okay. Now, do you wanna have a quick turnaround? I'm ready again. I was back in game today. I don't have any bumps bruises. I just have to go get checked out, you know, some stuff, but. Whenever we get that stuff cleared talk to my manager talk to the cultures. We'll get some gone. They're fighting here Phoenix and February get on that card. Get on that card now what's up with you? And not Asana. He pees in the cage UP on top of his p what's going on over there. I mean, we we all know how dogs do right? Yeah. For dogs has another dog this right here dollars piss on it and dog disrespect when the other dog. You know, he's just marking his territory like here now. Right. So again that was nothing against Israel. I have all the respect in the world for him. I was watching him when he wanted cage. And and I think that's his cage at this point. But when I go into that, that's that's my guy, and you know, as I was walking in my head yet. He did right there on the corner. And I caught a whiff of it. Now, this is my guy now. So I Mark my territory. Would you like the fight him? What I liked it will be that would be a very fun fight whatever again matchmaking his for the matchmakers. I don't get paid to make matches. So I paid to fight ago. Go back into training and fair for the best whoever, you know, pair for myself. Like I've said before I'm just trying to be better than better than I was yesterday. You wish that you would have gone down to one eighty five sooner. Do you feel like you'd be a lot further along in your career? Had you done this move sooner everything happens for a reason. And I wasn't no rush to get you know, skinny and die be super disciplined. It all happens. It all happened in perfect time. So this is the perfect time. Everybody's happy to see it. So no, I'm not no. Creditor wife. Right. She's the one who did all the cooking. Get you down to one eighty five absolutely mad credits Hershey again, like like, I said she could sit eight so she was being more disciplined for me than I had had to be for myself. So it was a team effort. Congratulations to you and your family, what a performance what a win looking forward to what you're gonna do. Now. One eighty five. Clearly, Dana white is is is on notice as well. He said that he went up to right after the fight. Yeah. He did that must feel. It is he did have a fight like you said he was really excited after that. And even more. So now that he sees I'm learning wrestling part. I don't like to leave holes in my game. You know on the reason why I, you know, I'm not getting wrestling because I didn't grow up wrestling. So everybody else has everybody can have that advantage. But it ain't going to them. It ain't gonna do them. Too much. Good because I'm getting better congrat- Charrette. Thanks for coming on and joy the victory. Thank you very much for having. All right. There is Jared cannon near joining us. What a great win would obey performance from the gorilla in his middleweight debut wins at heavyweight wins at middleweight, of course, the wind just now and then wins at light heavyweight. So I probably did that the wrong way should've done heavyweight light heavyweight mid away. But you get the point you get the point and especially doing it in New York and gets a felon yorker, David branch, who's a tough out a really really tough out while what a win for Daniel. She's me Jared Cananea. Well done and on two weeks notice to boot. Let's just stop at one eighty five. You see those before and after pictures before and after pictures of Cananea at heavyweight, I think is the first one maybe even light heavyweight, but then the middle way looks dramatically different person. It's unbelievable. All right fun. I our in the books matter moments. We're going to be joined by the former heavyweight champion steep coach. I'm very curious to hear what he had to say or has to say about Saturday night. And what's next for him? I had heard that there was talk when they were searching for main event. For a minute there before they went with DC versus Lewis. I had heard that there was some talk of St. pavers Kane. But in the end that did not come to fruition. So when are we gonna see him back? We wanna see him back. Alexia Linic wants to fight him. But I'm sure he wants to fight for the belt as well. DC saying on Saturday night, if the Brooklyn fight doesn't come to fruition. It will probably be St. bay in his retirement fight that I'm assuming will be the best case scenario. For the heavyweight from Ohio the Croat. But I think everyone wants to know when he wants to return against two and what he thought of the whole situation on Saturday at Madison Square Garden. I know he was in New York before the fight. With some of New York's finest, the the F D N Y. And that's always an amazing thing. That's debate does still working as an active firefighter, still supporting the firefighters the first responders says a lot about who he is. After CPA we're going to be joined in studio by Israel out of Sonya back to back weeks. He was on last week prior to the fight against Derek Brunson. An amazing win for him one of the break-up performances on Saturday, but also breakout fighter of the year four no now debuted in February came back in April. Then the main event in July and Madison Square Garden. I mean that is just an absurd year for the last style bender and very rare that we can have someone in studio one week and then the next week pre win post win, and he was actually kind enough. He was supposed to fly out. I think either yesterday or this morning and actually extended his trip so that he could come in studio, and and talk about it all and then after that we'll be joined by Elliott, those ease and then suggest Eubanks we'll stop by to talk about her somewhat controversial win on Saturday. MS Square Garden over Roxanne on ferry. Okay. Without further ado, let's go back to this guy machine and say Hello to the former UC heavyweight champion, the one and only steep amyotrophic is on the show against how are you? It's good to talk to you. And congratulations to you and your family yesterday was a big day for you guys. Right. My daughter's back. Wow. How was that was awesome? Pretty tired day. Yeah. Is that is that like an emotional thing for you? I'm not I'm not bat was at Baptist or Catholic. Chris what does it Catholic? So I don't really know. I've never been to one of those. What is it like? Just bunch of family. Krizan and decide it's a it's a great day. Just you know, Starbucks sacraments. Where are we right now? Are we in your home? Yes. I like this little setup you got you got the two belts. What do you have to over your right shoulder over there? What are those statues? Yeah. Just finding boxing. Okay. And then what's on the other side Fedor the air ward. Yeah. A Ohio boxers association look at you all humble. Yeah. Did you watch the fight on Saturday? On this guy with a bunch crammed followers. You know, good time one hand. I mean, I offered myself. That card and he said now, they told me he was on available weekly. Are you spending Lewis? I mean, was it annoying for you to watch it like, what is going through your mind when you're seeing this. Of course, it was annoying mail scenario. This should be me. Right. There's a ton of guys that never defend about negative rematch. But then I defended the three times favorite do superfine get rematch inning. And it's not like he was beating. Finally, I was winning fighting just congress shot, man. I really feel today. We're not talking about the IFO either by stop. I get shot. Right. Did you ever get an explanation as to why the you have seen ever tried to make that fight? Now, you've heard I'm I'm sure him talk about it saying look steep too good right to fight on three weeks. Notice. You take that as a kind of compliment or is that not good enough? Now, it's not gonna you think I was in great, right? But you've done it. Are sent I wanna go. That's my belt. So what do you do? Now. Rematch. So they're openly talking about Brock. He's talking about the retirement fight. Are you worried? No care racks, doing something in Saudi Arabia. I mean, it isn't find two and half years. He he wanted to cider. I mean, these arriving if they pass you up for Brock, and you get passed up again what how do you react to that? We will find out. Okay. Clearly, you're not happy. No. Would you be? No. I mean, I put myself in your shoes. But I understand a hundred percent where you're coming from. We might be doing the same thing. They want the rematch. I mean these same way for the roles reversed. I was not. Yeah. Did they try to do versus Kane Velazquez for a minute on that card? Maybe maybe our remember, okay? D C N, even if they did like what's that? Sorry. I want my rematch -ment about back. And even if they were doing like interim belt or anything like that. Not good enough. I wanted to see what happens if he retired before you get your hands on them. I mean, he's not going to be on the first round. So again, so confident. Yeah. Do you would that be something that would bother you for the rest of your career? If you don't get another crack at him, if he leaves before you fight again, he was willing. What could you do? So I mean, we're if he if he actually fights again in March, and they don't give you could be out for a very long time. Are you prepared for that? See I just put my chair down all the way. I don't know. If you saw this interview, I'm very barest right now. See Pam sorry to embarrass for you. To be honest. I'm a little timid data right now, you're really pissed off. Yeah. Man. I mean, I mean, I well with the New York on fans, right? Did why don't you find tonight? I everybody even the US, Cowan tears even the media. They're like, why don't you tonight? Answer. Yeah. Why did you go to New York? Appearance. Okay. Was it weird to be there? So close to to you know, the venue and all that knowing that you should be. Restore some jump in you know, fight, but apparently didn't happen. So I went back home. You didn't go to the actual fight. Now, but you did watch I came after him on Sunday. So I don't wanna like sure be late Sunday right again Trump. That'd be a bad luck. I'm actually surprised that you watch the fight knowing how upset you were about all this. With Chris wideman, the my boy. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Have you talked to them? How is he doing? I know I kind of like try by people have gone to the head as it is arguing weaker saw in about. Okay. Were you impressed with performance? Jury as he warned different just. Not really, no, okay. Even though it was that dominant. Just took him now. Yeah. Did you think Derek had a chance? Where everyone has a chance in DC chance needs. Yeah. Nobody going into the fight. Did you think that oh when he fought? Yes. But did you think that Derek had a chance going into the fight? Or did you think that this was fairly one sided? No. I mean, it's. There's a big hits high as may use of any came back. Do you think that if you had a different kind of relationship with you see you have gone in that shot like you feel like all the drama of the past? Couple of years is coming back to haunt you. Probably I don't really care. They do. They want. Flavor. The week is that's how the kid right? But then it so in this case, it's not like another sport. Where you you kinda like earn your shot here you have to almost be granted the title shot. And sometimes when you better relationship, there's a better chance of that happening, right? Ron stand trial. Cram is this kind of ruining your love for the game. Merrill, would I do? So I it's fans fans 'cause if it wasn't for the fans wouldn't be right now. Right. But the like this politics have you tried to campaign for tasha? It's probably not something that you wanna do. No. I mean, I don't mind because like this they want we're gonna get. Okay. So what does the game plan? How do you get the fight? Keep talking I should pay. I deserve. Brooke record you're talking. Maybe I really don't off to give multiple times more more ever defended. See and those. Come on. Now guys entering defended about after they wanna match, right? What do you think about Brock? And you saw is there is there a chance because even DC said best friend. What do you mean? Got up. I mean, I I don't I. I guy at the two and a half years. Right. I mean. I just. My. Irritates more because. We have always finds that. We're recording. Pain hard just tuna. Title shot. Yeah. That's the weirdest part about it that he's getting a shot after all of that. And there's there's no real justification for it. It's not like he's he's earned in. Now. Here you are in this position. So I can understand your frustration. There's no doubt about that. You think that having like a sit down with the UFC would would help you in terms of getting your point across. That's something that's on the table that before and it's never worked. They wanna do. So they want. Okay. And just curious what are you planning on doing? If they do. In fact, go with Brock. Find out. Until you everything you do have a plan. Man. I'm a little bit scared right now. I'm not gonna lie. Are you like really really mad, right? New York and in. Yes, I don't I do not want that. But it's like you're not the kind of look like scowling the whole time. I mean, it's just it's just I feel every day. I should've been fighting. Actually gonna shot. Now, I'm not gonna. I just they just is. You work your butt off your. I mean, I made been doing. I needed to get. Did somebody knows dining gal fish? Yeah. And then you hear things probably like Connor is gonna get an immediate rematch and all this stuff. I mean, what's up? Man, it just. Blackout. What's real? Just. Were you worried that this would happen? If you've ever lost the belt considering the relationship with the. See? No exact dot at. After like you off. Rematch. Right. Putting my contract. The of it. But. You know for China is about July was my night. Do you have a message for Daniel? Yeah. Fighting you do. Fray when I was. No credible any carbon going. By licey. You know, you're not again. All right. And what about for the U of C? Give me my rematch. Or seriously? Either. I just start taking steroids. Back. We all right. Yeah. Iran's was. Is there a chance that you have fought your last fight in the AFC? No, our said that don't oh, I'm asking I'm asking. I'm just wondering. I mean, we saw trades. We saw DJ just get traded, right? For that shit. Okay. Okay. I just didn't know how frustrated that right? Okay. Fair enough. Well, I appreciate you coming on and voicing your your opinions and displeasure about everything. And I do hope it works out for you. Workout. It was. All right. Thank you. Steve bay. Good luck to you. Banks fix chair. Okay. Thanks fix right now ups there, it is sepia meal. There. He is. I was mad a few words. But in this particular case, I don't think he's happy. That's just my impression of the whole situation. He seems very upset. And I understand where he's coming from it doesn't appear as though the odds are in his favor on this one. This is going to be interesting. Oh, my. Winning his champion in in in UFC heavyweight history. The fended the title successfully more than anyone certainly has a strong case. Is he the front runner now to get that title shot? No. That's the sport prize fighting. It's not America Crecy. It's the fight business. They said on Saturday that you have to twenty nine was the second most success. No, not to twenty nine to thirty was the second most successful, pay per view. And in large part because of this man, Israel out of my man. How are you in the house? What's up my man? They engage family. Oh, everyone's here Israel. How are you? I was expecting to come in this fast. Didn't give me a heads up. But look at you. You're quick, man. You're making the rounds today. You're in my former home, I knew you're just everywhere. Look, I think is the right guy to replace. Oh, yeah. Big shoes to fill. But I think he's big enough. He's a large man, quite literally. Right. Yeah. Well, thank you for doing this supposing. You were supposed to fly out win yesterday today Sunday, and you changed for me for everyone. Thanks, man. Thank you. Thank you. Can you come a little closer to the microphone chick chick mic? Check one two. Is that is that comfortable? Okay, easy. Thank you for doing this. This is only been done once before what twice twice back to back weeks in studio back to bed. Yes. The six God, John Kavanagh? Did it you have see two five or country Eddie, but never a fighter. So this means a lot especially one who has to fly. Now. We're going back to New Zealand. Yeah. Wow. How long is that live and a half hours? But you know, I talked to Dennis via comfortable in the flight. Now Cal is just about to ask you that. I made sure business class, right? I'm the merchant after us, man. What on the way here where we, you know? You know, coach coach you coach yet out of your window C. I'll got that thing where your leg vise. It's like horrible, right? But yes, so now like I like to be comfortable I like on it so much easier because you have to get up stretch because I tall guys. Well, you have to like all that while you fly. So Mick did it for me a couple of times when I. Business class same thing. So I felt comfortable you can just lie down stress free. And it's good for the athletes. You know? So of course, my worth nothing. Now, you know, we'll talk about it. That's besides the point. I'll talk to them. Okay. And what about the hotel? What happens to the hotel you happy from the downgrade from last time does where we last time in in Vegas GM. Yeah. In the bigs, we literally just a little bit bigger than this room. Okay. And then right adjacent or next to it was my coaches, and like we had a conjoining like it was easy. So I could just leave it open close anytime I want, and it was big hotel living room and the shower with my favorite bit just 'cause it was just. Huge. Yeah. So you can just like yawn thing. Yeah. And this time it was I it was nice tonight. I same regular. But I'm I'm that Bucci. I like the black BI. I'm chilling. I'm alright, I I'm I just I really really pride myself in my shower time. That's my alone time when I after a fight. That's my time. When I get to be alone thoughts. Okay. Yeah. 'cause I got shower, man. Yeah. Nobody like what do you do in there? Like, you meditate in my own way. Like last time and the GM after the fight after all my friends, you know, we had a little party in my room, nor really like chilling hanging out music. And then. Yeah afterwards when they left I remember I just put on some rap. You knows a little stoned. And then just sat there and just meditated stone like smoking. Oh, yeah. My wanna? Yeah. Is that your thing? Yeah. Par- partially everything alcohol marijuana just depends some of them who. Okay. Some of them. Yeah. Like, they use put the some of them. All there's a lot of things coming your way now here that. Yeah. Yes. Yes. They come in through it. When it goes to like, my baby system our brothers. All my son is here. Yeah. They're telling people that they haven't talked for years coming out just trying to latch woodwork. Like, hey, this is weird. I haven't just put a post like two minutes ago. Check my story real quick. Okay. Like, yeah. Friend of mine is kind of said she saw it as well. So it was weird. I've seen all the link. So I'm really clued up. I've been looking at this for a long time. So I know okay. They come and this time also the last after Vegas, I was geared up. 'cause sometimes you need to brace for impact. You don't really? Like after my debut was like, okay. I wasn't ready for that one. After the. Which hold out Arizona fight. I wasn't ready for that impact. Yeah. So this after July Kate brace for impact, boom. A handle that. Excuse me. Thank you, sir. Yeah. And this time again, I just knew it's going to be even worse. So I was just get ready here. They come and what is it been like less couple days or less than two? Oh, really? I don't put it on vibrate oil ringing spin. So 'cause that busy it is. Then. Anyone anyone that you saw like, oh, man. This is cool. This person reached out to me show me love a few. I don't wanna name. Oh, yeah. Namedrop here. Celebrities like, so we're probably my favorite artist. Really? Yeah. Like what? Yeah. Music. Also, we'll talk about that later. Drake put on what's his name was talking about Charlemagne. He posted your video you re posted a talking about his book. Oh, yeah. So this morning. He did. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's on his Instagram. So yeah this morning. I was I knew for reason. It's weird how life works like I couldn't sleep all just chilling always plotting do my thing. And then four minutes I saw like he he's tagging posted the video of me talking about his book and talking about their and whatnot. Because that's what his book is about. And then I kinda just like should him giving him back and then. Yeah. A little divall while the guy walked out to yes track. Yeah. Plug me up. So which is good for my from my. Say my entry into black America. If you will like he's the he's the guy right now. His track is the hot mic the head of the summer. So yeah, I mean, they plug me up. I'm I'm introducing them to a new audience as well. So it's kind of like a back and forth thing, and I say, he's not going back and forth. But as his back and forth. Yeah, I feel like it's hard to relate with you. Based on what you do in the cage. Like, I can't even fathom doing the things. But I think based on what I saw you talking about your time as a as a school student is student school dyslexia. And all that stuff. I saw a lot of people say like, wow, I go through the same thing. And I saw some people say, oh, I know what it's like in Nigeria teacher dump. I mean, you hear from a lot of people. I didn't know about that too much. I had looking a little bit comments. But not really too much about that. But yeah, it's it's it's crazy over there. Like when I remember when I first came to New Zealand, and I was in. I was like ten years old and no by twelve on. Eleven and form one. And then this kid was using his walkman and class. The teacher was like they must Tony Tony put that away like to miss. And I remember the look at my face life. Because normally oh, you get caned. Yeah. I'm from legit head down. Sure in front of the class, ten lashes, Dan. So he can't do. So I was like you can talk to the teacher like that. It's crazy. So it was a culture shock for me in that point. But then yeah, I mean, I was raised different. And I don't know for me. It's yeah. Different culture. Yeah. I wanna start with always sort of started here. But that felt like the pre interview you leave here, and I was so jealous. We mean check courtside Knicks game a real my beloved may ever team. Travertine minute t leave. Here you go with the jacket. What was that? They know. It was incredible that Jackie dead. What hap- is dead. Is that what does that mean? No, more good. Not like, I mean, it's what it is. It's it's just amazing beautiful. What was it like sitting courtside at MSU before you're about the fight there? But you're seeing the NBA players that you told me you were going. I didn't realize you were sitting that close. I didn't know either, bro. So we got we got there. Right. And there's me and my wrestling coach take us like the VIP room. Yeah. And there's like all these movie stars. And there was a guy Christian from thirteen reasons why I started watching down-home trust me. I told him I'm gonna 'cause I've heard so much about it from last year her it was controversial, Jerry. All right. It's almost better black mirror. Okay. I probably watch it. Then I'll watch it. So. Yeah. He would he reached out a fan? Realize navarro? Yes, I'm I'm gonna start watching that. 'cause I I love Netflix and chill. So I've got on your house. So I'm good. I'm new house now to definite. Oh, look at you. What? While I was in camp. So I had to like just I wanna get to sidetrack. So I kind of go everything my parents, my parents really helped me for that one organizing furniture. I went to them with them to buy everything. But there we looked after me with and she was happy to do it. Anyway, by all the furniture and all this organizing, the curtains draped security all that I have to focus on campus fulltime. But I'm yeah, he he reached he's cool. I like the guy, and we're talking about you into the Knicks games gang peas Bros. Oh where we saw him. Like all these movie. Like superstars you see on TV and whatnot and me. And my wrestling coaches, giggling on dre giggling, the whole time, and if you could look and be like these guys don't belong here. And we I couldn't eat too much. And I kind of had this little like a little taste of this. Fish best fish. I've ever had man. What kind of was just had the softness? Moist candy flavor around it broke away from the just self. It was beautiful and then courtside will right there set next to Britney supermodel from here. She made friends with them. They're cool. Yeah. I know. And it was just it was a good time. And it was good to be in the atmosphere and the energy of the place on feel it because you so how walked out? Yeah. I don't even know. I was going do that. Like, I swear I caught the Holy Ghost because I thought okay. Normally when I walk out. I'm not like everyone knows. I don't know why these guys like walkout something like, oh, hey, guys. Thank you. Thank you. What about you? Go back to this. I heard it wasn't Ariana. When my guy was right there. This is one. I like I realized this opponent was right there. He was what two walkout? He didn't. And the curtains closed. Whoever was yelling from the stands like going Marvin get this. Get jeez, come on knock him out. But he goes out. And I go next the same. Exact listen said the same exact to me. And I remember just like these new about me. So whenever I walk. I just I'm focused on my business. It's happening around me. So after the fight when I sparked the place up, then I feel it. So yeah, when I was in there, I walked out to divorce smile. Always just thought I'm just gonna focus on me. But then just groovy, you know, my shoulder started working started enjoy myself when I get comfortable because I've already been in mischievous already felt that atmosphere already made that same walk when I walked to the Senate of the court. So it was just another day in the office. And I remember I walked in there. He walked in like, I look back at the fight nine. I saw the way he walked in. He was just t- Newell's happening. He knew he was walking to the slaughterhouse. He knew he was about to get got you could feel it, dude. Like, even as soon as you ran past me, he jumped into the cage sloppiest, and I watched on the on the when he stepped up on the cage by normally in his other fights would be like, whatever he's like like he's gonna see. Like, he's out, you know. But you think you're in his head about real estate all over the place. You knew that a long time ago. You had also what I like to do is watch the like your interview with them that you interview after the fight. I just see the demeanor and I- validates what already knew he was shook. He was shook one he saying all the right things. That thing's supposed to say, I'm all hype. What else did he say to you? He see laughed at my prediction. And this is up being salty, by the way, 'cause guests me if he won our near the end of this. I can feel it most guys like Brad. If you want it would have been good fight, whatever that's it done. And I one good fight. That was it done. I paid them respects. Well, this guy. It was different. I I didn't like his approach. Yeah. I didn't like his approach to what he was. He was a boy he came at me in different. Why didn't like the way he was trying to remind me of bullying like kind of triggered me a little bit. So I became the bully became what I hate. I don't believe. So. Yeah. I yeah. I I I still bump this fist. I looked at him. Not said, look, I know you're all this is all talk before the game and whatnot. Good fight looked at me. Reluctantly and just you can see it, right? When herb was holding hands. And he's boy, you can tell you salty about it. And I'm Saul bass. Oh, whatever. And then I would imagine when he grabs onto your shorts. A couple times. Oh, you know, what I hate his pretend afterwards initially. He did it the first time, and I thought okay herb dean didn't see that. And I talked to her about three say sought, but. It didn't really he didn't get any advantage of it. So as whatever, but then the second time he did it on the he use it to keep me on the fence blatantly. If it was just one of those board shorts. He might have got away with it. Also shot to sauna gym who doesn't on the regular me. So I'm used to grabbing the gloves on no like people are gonna try and get away with it. So they mimic it and sometimes in the gym, Dan mimics in the gym just to kinda like 'cause people are gonna try and get away with it and get a warning. And you see him as soon as herb was like stop stop. And I was pissed off in the Byrd. He's like. And you see the look on his face. He looked on sell. It was about to cry like only did it once. I'm like you want you did he will shook he knew he was about to get so, yeah, he was trying desperately clutching at straws where you want my shorts. Saw. I just had to do what I had to do. Did you enjoy the final moments of that fight where he's like all wobble? Like it was out there. Yeah. I didn't enjoy any short. I don't think I missed one single strike who else when you watch someone hurt someone like that. And then the you have him do an everyone else you see how they go at them. Yeah. Who else do you see just patiently waits like after walking through a sequence? And my wrestling coach, Andre new all we did every we even drilled it before we left the hotel room. Bumping let's go let's can go. And then. We knew I'm left side. He's going to try and use keep me on the fan and use a shot. So I couldn't grab the risks. And just audible. Goodbye set controls. All right, cool, boom, secure that I had that on luck. And at the end sequence remember double on the hooks. And then I broke it boom. And then as I try to escape, and so sometimes you either thorough left like his pal slide, or he'll shoot this way to cut you off. And he's got a lot of people with it under as to Goodman. He's already lie. And also his shot was way too slow because was his name on dre Paulette Romanian. All right. Let's talk about him a few times. He's my man, that's my guy and he liked with him. He understands he understands how I'd like to be and we get each other. But he like he told me he's gonna shoot this way and try and cut me off. And as soon as he tried it you watch the tape you try to I escaped and got away. Even those the stuff of the fans Andre told me what exactly what is going to do exactly the same pathways. And that he rushed in because he all he's hurt or mobile. He can still up time the knee, and my my coach gave me props. Yes. She give me props. Rare upset like when I need him. I went straight to the undertook to defend the take down. But he was ready hurt. And from that point he was wobbly. And so I went on our south y thing hook uppercut and left knee, then drop them, and I was going to follow up like a lot of guys. Just did dumb. Does get excited and come to fast. They jumping on them and blow the load mustard back back up. He smiled at me. And I was like, oh, okay. Cool went back back to orthodox. And I looked at him question-mark kick hit him with a two piece boom drop them again. Then I framed, and there's a little bit of a sequence just trying to find him touching him touching them touching them. Eventually. I just pop he dropped again found the other one. South park. And I do like a little lazy whip all everything was like forty fifty percent credible. All these guys they blow the load because they can go and one hundred percent trying to like finish the fight like the hoping. I don't have to hope. I know if I touched the fall and people all early other bit early Stuttle who said that stupid people a lot of them. But he was honesty. He was done. He was already on wobbly legs for about a minute and a half. He was like all maybe about. I don't know how long I had left out about thirty seconds left and a five, but he wasn't wobbly legs from that. First thing the first the first time, I dropped them. So yeah, he was done. And I remember I like the was satisfactory looked at when I was like, I was I've had it's fine. Because I said he was a bully. I became the belief is the hype stuff like are we not going to hear that anymore here? It really say when I when I win the Bill they're going to beat five times, though, keep saying it is going to be someone at the end of the day. It doesn't matter. How they see you somewhere. Let's come up with a new narrative going into your mind. I am the hype train run them all over. Yeah. Can I Jake? We have is celebration. I wanna ask you about the celebration. Just as breakdown for you. That was just as impressive in my opinion. It's going to come up here. So who is like a little dash training Niger right now. So last time I spoke in my native tongue this time. I spoke with body language Shaq Shaq hit it with them. What does this tell me tell me and then with guate- guate- that's from South Africa? Dan. That's a Crump callup and enjoy myself. I don't know like this is body language. Those who no, no. So replay it again. Yeah. J J come on time did on a loot j I like that. So I just enjoy shopping shocking for them. So people know that and they hit them with the guate- guava. Crump gallup. Oh my God. How I'm sitting at the end lapook. Because that's culture. You know, what you're saying? But it sounds amazing. Not. But like, I mean, those who know no that that's just I I don't really have to cater to my own crowd, Cheryl. If you if you don't take a Heiko pick a number sitting line on different television that you did the last time last time ever what did I do last time breadth of ours? I just walked around hands up. I wasn't guest. You never done something like this. Or maybe it was two fights ago or is the debut nothing. The last time was on was on heck's. Yeah. Hex f c I hit him with another old Transi. Everyone's with Nigerian culture right in all the Niger and artists whiz. Kid, vito. What's his name? Can't remember keep people on you? This is this right here. My weaves note what is like ninja arts ninja techniques from enemy Coronado. So it's like ninja magic. I'm ninja. When I'm in there. I'm not do that again J come on. My slot. Some of the most on my back the dragging on my back with the scroll blood scroll down hit, my my my hands signs credits. And then boom in the bee's comes out Kunda kinky at the dragon on my back. I gotta finish them wanna get back. Oh us. Rod Dawson is going to finish it up and get up Brooklyn native, broken native. I'm the I'm the government or the Batman's doves. You know, I'm the the pebble among stones, you know, the the village idiot, but they don't realize. Yeah. He's different. I'm the one that they is that guy. He's a, but then look at me now he's crazy on air. Yes. Oh, so the back one is that again. Let's go come on ninja off with you. Let's grow that my weaves as someone animate this, please like make it for real. 'cause I know someone. What's his name? There's a black print from New Zealand black print FX another guy. I know the Instagram picture by the name escapes me. There's another one as well. They do all this animates. They'll they'll plug a bitter those who know they can see what's happening. Yeah. Understand that. If you don't know it just with the folks just doing I feel like you've watched all this like a million times and Saturday. Yes. Over some guy tried to say, oh, well, your hand signs was weak. That's something through week, but the finish made up for it. Oh god. Locked. That how dare you saw my ninja technique play that one more time. One more. Syria is wrong with you. Oh my God. That's that's you don't understand. This is I'm sweating. I'm geeking out right now. I love it. A proud of yourself very that. I'm proud of that moment. Right. Just this. Yeah. Wear to means more to me than the actual fight was cool. I made some money. But this was my weaves out there they understand now. You may you have new contract you got the bonus. Right. But that's like we need to rip up that contract. Now that contract this. Doc is way up now. I know the Wall Street check Wall Street. Yeah. A check Wall Street all the way up next would be. Let's get the Bill on a C. Like, okay. So array I haven't heard he said he's beat there twice. I understand. That's his case. And you know, shocker I which Acharya I don't have any beef toward them. I'll fight them later on. But. He's been beaten by Kelvin and Robert my case against that. So I count I count argue that with that. But come on. Let's see what happens with them rubber and its name Kelvin Kelvin gasoline. Let's see what happens with them. If Robert wins, the only fight to make the pathways clear, I've already made my case at the post fight Wayne's a post fight press conference. I don't wanna go through it. Again, what the pathways clear if you really wanna make some money if you really wanna make noise. I'm the guy I'm gonna fight these guys. Anyway, let me just fight them with the belt. I'm gonna fight all of them. Anyway, when it's all said and done I said my goal to build it's a fancy tiara boy after pick it up along the way like a little like a little trinket. I'm gonna fight all these guys along the way was all said they're going to say who's the best of all time. Who's a guy that didn't duck? Anyone he didn't pull out, you know, he didn't like a lot of guys around play this like, oh, which of these older, I'll fight everyone. I wanna fight drop in on a fight everyone and hitting duck. And he's the best. He didn't. You know what I mean? Like, I wanna be that guy. So yeah, I'm just getting fifty cents as get the strap strap season next week next year Dana said at the press conference, he has your opponent in mind unless it is. We'll see what he says he tell you. I wouldn't talk about that. But was afterwards though. Right. Yeah. We'll just talk. He'd gave me. Some some good words say about you know, a kid Monday morning. Your life's going to change blow and all you gave me. Some good words. Let me know kind of stuff what he says like on the ultimate fighter. Like generic stuff? What kinda he has to let you know, you have to hear from the horse's mouth and things already know what's good to hear it again. And be reminded of it keeps me I thought he was going to say Monday morning. You gotta go on aerial show. That's my guy. Guy favorite has favorite told me that. Yeah. But yeah, he. Yeah. You gave some good words, and then I just appreciated it. And then he said, yeah. Good luck. And I we he's gonna be in Australia's. Well, I think for the plug in for the Adelaide fighting. Okay. Voting his work. So Peter is going to work him out there. He and what's Arabella? They're gonna put him through the meat grinder. But but he didn't say, okay. This is what I have in mind. He'll talk to my manager. I mean, okay. I'm not that dumb. Yeah. Even when I met him in the club after the what you call it two through six. I talked to him. This is when we shook Dana, then it was an accident. I tell you. That's no, okay. So I went to go get some more money from the cash machine in the security guard. We're talking of blah, and then he takes me to the the wrong room. I see McMahon. And I'm like, you don't hear talked to make he's like entre to Dana as the first time, I met him life. Wow. And then we start yawning, and we talked about what we're gonna do. And he says he likes when I'm doing all this and yeah after. And after that, I talked I was a little bit drunk by not even drunk tipsy from about me. And also, my boy, Dan, Hooker smoke this. So yeah afterwards. It was like all right cool. I'll let off Al comeback. Of course, not. I'm not gonna let my walls down because it's like this. I mean, this is business. I wanna be friends with them. Right. Cool. Like, Mick as my guy. Mc heavy Mick is. So he's good energy. I love Maynard. Yeah. He's the man honestly, man. And he's he's been so like working with him. He and my management team working with like together. It's just me so beautiful. There's no. And he knows what's up. He's not like a guy at least some promoted to pay you. Of course, they'll pay you, the, you know, the the least they can pay you won't try and get the most of what you can. But I think they know what's happening to see what is in front of them. They realize that finally recognize what's happening. So yeah, I I'm not gonna like more money up by a lot of guys. Make that mistake, you know, hanging around and with buddy buddy now. Like, the F F. And there's no it's not like saying, we're not friends we can be friendlier friends. But at the end of the day of being promoted in the past by my business deals in the past. And I've met a lot of mistakes. And I have to say what made a lot of mistakes. And those are one of them's person the wrong people. So yeah, I'm a love the relationship. We have with the USC right in our religion. We have Dana with Mick. And especially Mickey so cool. But it just goes black belt as well. Why do I feel if they're going to do versus Anderson or wanted to reception was the point? I don't I don't really wanna see that. Can I be honest real? I don't young too quick. Why really wanna kill that guy off? No. That's the guy told you don't get me wrong. Just because I'm a fan. Doesn't mean cash. These hands. But there's no need. I mean, like I say you have seen ninety I some live do some magic. And I was like, oh, this is this guy. He's a looked up to I still look up to him. I think is the best middleweight of all time. And what to run over what he did. Okay. So that pizza coming up. What is it the sign? It was. Was breakfast hotdog for breakfast do Maimon. I'm living the life. Now. My best live off the street. Yeah. Jeeze New York. I'm went Tim's me. Where did you guys? Celebrate just some Irish bar around the hotel. That's it. Yeah. They'll clubs nothing marquee nothing. I don't see you don't do that. They got me twisted. They think they know me they think they have figured out. They think the way I dress the way I talk the where at all. He's another one of those ones on my God. Okay. We've seen this guy before. Is more than meets the eye. What? Okay. And. Okay. So you got. So you got the meeting with Dana. Dana is glowing. I saw him going glazing talking about his new toy, you know. He's like so happy cash cow. Yeah. Yeah. He loves it. What's his name things Budapest? He made this this name. He he's he's made this mean put on his page symbol one. Yeah. Right up. How much you're gonna wanna do something with that some light? Yeah. The funny. One is great. It's Dana as whoever that character. In The Lion King Simba chosen one. That's funny. It's unbelievable. John jones. He was here. Have you ever seen me and Georgia's in the same room? No. That's why I wanted to know. It's unbelievable. You're like a young Jones your face. Oh, I'm not saying like, maybe I have a beard on and I just walk around. You didn't wanna meet a not not that? I I like the guy. He's cool. I saw him first time. I saw him fight live was you f c ninety four on Saint year versus pin? You look like him back in the face. He looked like me, I say that he. Yeah. He up. Stephan Boerner with like some crazy like him. I saw him like as one point. He had over hooks in a soup likes the and then he was just like ragged on them in the spinning elbow drop them. And he was so cool. Still is he's he's another great and same thing. Like, I said when he jumped on the scene who am I good? It's Anderson two point. Oh, what wrestling he outgrew those comparisons? Now, I'm the hot chick in the bar. Oh my God. He's this and that, blah, blah, blah. Eventually I'm gonna grow those comparisons as well. But John Jones cool. Yeah. I've met him. I just think if we meet maybe the world might explode because off. Okay. I'm gonna get ahead of the game. Because I had someone took a picture of me and Alexander Goss in backstage, and I know for a fact coming. I that's going to be funny. I someone just swim. I think would dapper scrappers, man. Yeah. You know, everything. Unbelievable. I get my air man here. Unbelievable, everywhere up obscure things. Dummy. Joe jitsu? I like the fact he and I think Chris is John Millington Christopher. Yeah. Equal. They started that that whole movement, and that's cool kind of bringing fashion to the UFC do New York fashion week just once I used to fashion week where they can afford me anymore. So they didn't get me. I think this year they tried to. But then like, nah, the stock is going up. So you can't. Yeah. Said yeah. So next year, I'm gonna do New York fashion week for sure I wanna do once. I'm not going to be one of these guys on the model now that I'm not going to sponsors. We got here. We're talking we got tray. Bar. None number one. Fuck everybody else. I because they stuck by me win everyone else said, no. And I said after my post, I was supposed to say you pay me, a reverse it because you're not the famous line paying a remixed it. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I don't wanna be that guy. Like because I heard, you know, Luca paid mad money full. Ralph Lauren he doesn't need to fight anymore. Wasn't one to you. Can. I mean, whatever. But I love fighting. You know, I love this game. I love learning. And if if I didn't have the gym if I have Eugene if I didn't have city kickboxing team on what I'd be doing. I'm I'll be I'll be doing something else. This is way more fun. You know? And I just I feel like I'm what better way to make a Mark in history stat my name is one of the greats. I knew this can I can I ask I don't quite understand your undefeated fourteen fifteen and what is it now? Fifteen fifteen your last kickboxing fights where a loss right back to back. Yeah. What's the difference? Why are you doing so? Well, now, and you were on like, I can't even fathom losing to enroll Emma? What's the difference? What happened was my kickboxing installers is not suited for the star. They wanted the gloves different. And they score based on some don't sometimes you know, like Mona four for the world title. I won that fight. You could see me around five can repose. Our our that on my story. You see me around five just couldn't be touched Roy Jones. Like I was just in zone. Can this guy up? All these just like this job on eating shorts and walking forward throwing some legs, legs suppose. Slow you down. Moving eating slow me down all but he was moving forward and let kicks pro. And then I mean, what is one of the contents remembers name now? About the Leaney was talking to him. He was very very biased because I mean, he had to stop fighting because he had some concussions or whatever, I know. But I mean, that's because his style of fighting. I don't get concussed because I fight smart. So people this is art. So, you know, you whatever it's subjective. Whatever you you appeals to you. You look at your favorite, you know, and it's happening boxing different styles. So the commentary was very very biased, and they don't understand what I'm doing. And this is the ring was told you small than this. So I beat the system is able to avoid he hit me probably hard like twice the whole fight the mobile knees who's the opponent for this one. You don't want to say, I can't I know isn't Herrera. Will. The one that brought out was it. Did you know that today? He brought him for his camp. Yeah. He show. Yeah. You know that how did I help him? Not not very well. Yeah. I'm different. I don't fight those fight like dumb. I'm I'm I'm smarter than them. You know, my team is smarter than them beat them. And then even the fight. He knew it he knew he lost. And then when his hand raise he was really surprised, and then I remember to what he save pipe, whatever, I'm the champion, baby. Got here and then forever as well. Same thing. He's another mother who's going to be telling his grandkids, I fought, and I him you see he posts a picture view. I don't check like every fight. I'm gonna tell you. They going to be watching me. I'll never in my life watch any of his fights ever. You know, why winning the war? He won the battle. Sure. You wanna battle? I'm winning the war understand is level sedition. And if he comes about trust me, the I was in China. Very very biased in that one as well. I I beat them their bias. And that's why when he beat me it was based on my slip up, you know, based on me I up in the second round. And I should I should have got him out of there. I did what everyone else does you know, why from the wellness fight. 'cause I started listening to people listened like well, don't leave it in the head of the judges and people I know from back home was on Zealand so stupid on his like people who I respect. Well, that's what happens when you leave it in the hands of the judges on my think, I was trying to leave it in the hand of the judges. So let that that was back into sixteen. I let some of that sip in let some of that sip in and I regret that now because. Yeah, in that fight when I heard him the second round if I just don't what I did to Bronson which is just take my time. Stay pretty Ammon shoot out to go to matter there. But I try to rush him. And I'll just all I was doing right hands. I look I don't cringe about the knockout that. Yeah. And what I'm fine I'm alive. I'm anyway. But I was. Was so cringe because all that was right hands at his face. I didn't go to the body. I didn't go to the legs. I might as well. Just don't miss like just. So cringe, and that's not my art. That's not my style. I would just like me drawing. And just like, that's what it is that that's not me. So that's what makes me cringe the artistry was and then. Yeah. So he here go he got me. Good job. Come if p hold up like a fake UFC contract saying he's gonna get signed cool work your way up. I'm sitting pretty where I'm at you know, he's way way down below in the dirt. You know? How to is? You're gonna get to me if he manages to I'll spot kick him back down there. Wow. Okay. Is Floyd gonna ask you to help them? He's fighting you hear about this law against ten and in Reisen you hear about this. What do you think that is you think it's going to be kickboxing match? No. Oh, man my life. I just don't know. Well floor is being he's the greatest box of all time. We know who's fighting right Kantian yell. With venus. Yeah. What do you think they're gonna let him kick? No. Exactly, he's he's he said when it was on the may where the pre may MAC, presto. Yeah. I'll do when when Karna call them out like you wouldn't dare step in my world. So yeah, I'll do 'em. May I said on the James Toney some Hornets? Yeah. Harness came in. He said man, I remember when when asked him how do you feel about these man if I hit with this? I'm going to Jill think that was your one eighteen if I'm a mistake. You're right. And versus Edgar too damn look at you. I think so often. No, no. You're one hundred right? Yeah. Yeah. So I think yeah, he is I'm going to jail, and he went in there granite up Rennick tour ankle picked him real quick like a turtle off his back. But at least he tried a mother gangster. Do you think his boxing history or his boxing record matters because he filled in 'em may know, James, Toney humane. I'm just borrow if you wanna be the set in my post-flight, if you want to be the best fighter in your heart. You know, what's up? My ego would never let me live if I just. Kickboxing and be the greatest gas credits. Kim FOX what time I'm slipping. Hey talk. You're you are human after all facts. Yeah. I've lied. I cry. If I could have been the greatest kick box of all time for me personally as a as a martial artist. I just know. I will never like even jitsu black Bill a chick could strangle me if you wanted to understand a kid could like break my arm, if they wanted to because I don't know that language. I don't know how to defend that. I don't know. What that is. You know? So I had to like honestly had to just humble myself. And be like you almost do if Floyd takes a year a year. How's he forty one? Yeah. He takes a year. Just to like learns wrestling learned some grappling. He's such a smart and physically genius gifted person. I'm pretty sure he'll pick it up fast. I'm pretty sure he'll do. Okay. Don't fight corner. I if you want to make the money make the money do that. But if if he just takes time, and does that I think you'll be bad like as in bad. Good good as AB that the MA maybe not the best, but he'll be all right? He'll be able to sprawl maybe kicking take some time to work on. But like just the grappling aspect and his hands. Looking at his timing. His is at forty one. Wits about him. You know, so why around be like James Toney goes going this? You know, get in there get amongst it. What do you make of Jared Kenan near peeing where you peed? Understood. It, you know, dog eat dog, and yeah, I'm cannibal about to do what I do. So, you know, winning their Mark my territory he walked, Pat, he. Alpha male who's alpha male. He's okay, he's healthy. Always don't pile off. This comma take the spot. All right now. I I talked to him backstage talk about that. You see it? I didn't see that bit while out hit him up about it. But he's cool. He's because I remember his name Farahnaz. Okay. And I remember now I watch one of his fights. I remember seeing one of his fights heavy what I think he was bald. Yeah. That's why he's a little bit skinnier. That's why recognize him buddy. No them either. But yeah, he was in shorts. And as I do that with me. But yeah, he talked to him backstage when we we took a photo together with a photography crew. But it wasn't disrespect me. Is this kind of what he's doing? But doggy dog I've been in China. So right. I hope not you've had probably I never questioned anything. I never questioned anything. I just if it tastes good. I ate it. 'cause sometime if you I had some whatever. Yeah. I've even worse. I've been everywhere in this some places up eating worse than dog. You know when you. Drought and k chin. Let's go. I took my boy at. Doing. I give them a show. That's my man. He looked after me. I give my show you fought everywhere now and also shot to dusty on hold for coming up from Perth as well. Okay. My boys right there. I appreciate that. You know? Yeah. Thanks for coming guys. I appreciate that. 'cause it takes a lot to fly all this way. Man on the time. They could have been with their family dusty what his dog, you know, Br of doing their thing. But appreciate that. And how about your siblings? Yeah. They're still enjoying themselves. Yeah. What was it like to have them here? Do this again. What what what tell you know? I just wanted to know because I it's a nice way too tight all together last week. We talked about them. I'll come get enjoyed it, man. It was cool. Yeah. They enjoyed it. They loved it. They loved the experience. I I love doing this. Because the shows them there's more to the world is so much more to the little country. We live in you know, this so much more and travel enjoy tasty different foods get amongst that. You know? And I think that's what's if you really want to. If like. Say what what's going to cure racism? But if you ever feel some type of way about something else good of that country immerse yourself, if you really live someplace, I if like KKK got people go to Africa, literally if you can go to Nigeria and get amongst and immerse yourself with the people if you can leave their racist. Well, good luck to you. I just don't think it's going to happen. If you really especially well, actually, go with someone because you probably get ripped off in certain parts of Nigeria but go with someone that can really get you immersing the culture in a beautiful way. Like that's going to call. That's going to cure like your illness of racism, I feel so I want them to like experience everything in this life that they can enjoy the world do while you're young before you settle down, and you can still do what your family, but you know, there's a process when your kids and you have to get them the certain age we can travel with them. You don't to be that parent. Yeah. So yeah. Definitely just I'm happy with the whole trip. The whole trip was and everything is just so much. So many things have happened, man. I told you I told you I did I planned everything to the most minute detail to the most and it's all coming to fruition. And I'm just sitting there like player one and everything else is just bought s- and programs in my world. Is this the best week of your career? Yeah. Yes yet. Right. Right. You fight all over the yet. Yeah. Of course, you fought all over the world. And it just feels like it's all coming together. I put out a thing yesterday. Just looking I'm trying to think about the year end. I think any communist fighter of the year. And I got a lot of people say treated as well because I'm the same. Mind blank Israel. I did it sometime 'cause I'm put on the pressure. Okay. Two seconds. And may our Luke Luke Thomas. Yeah. He said Josh was that's not what is it. Dammit. Look Thomas was almost saying like, yeah. It's either meal DC, and I was like probably I said brick through fighter the years me hundred guaranteed. What to look DC made a poster when I was on Twitter now that he has it. Yeah. See exactly look good on him to like, you know, what give it to him. He has it. But the you're in. It's like, I think it's DC even you. I'm there. I'm there's no doubt. I'm in their talks. And that's nice air to be amongst, you know, nice for kid. I'm a fan of the sport regardless and people's are. I'm a fan of the sport. I've been watching this since two thousand and five like now, I'm here planned, all and initially. You wouldn't pay me enough? When I first watched the fight into five all that you wouldn't pay me enough to do that. I wanna Dana White's job. I was like I wanna be the guy. 'cause I love the sport. I wanted to be the guy playing matchmaker. This guy fight that guy. Yeah. Got one this guy to fight that guy. But now it's flipped. I don't want the mice job that he looks. Yeah. He works. He looks good for what he's doing. But he seems like a lot of work, and I do a lot of work as well. But my work is easy in the cage behind the scenes. There's a lot of our work this time next year. Are you the champion what do out of defending the probably maybe once you think? So. Yeah. Like, what is Kevin going to drop out? And you're gonna get like, what are you? What are you forseeing laya one thing play one thing? Let me look into my crystal buffo for a little bit. And I'll see this time next year. You have the belt after two to one I'm gonna replace this clip after too. The head of the to win the green room and some guy was looking at the balance. Let me see that. And I felt the weight of it. I remember that moment I felt the weight of it. And I remember just touching it and feeling and just like looking at it. And I took a took a little video with it. And I just my debut in February. And I remember just holding it like. I can I'm there right now feel I remember that it was on this show the two. Yeah. A twist holy. Holy. That's crazy. I I'm deep man. People don't understand power this thing as levels. I swear to God out my third. I'm arrays can level. The just do me a favor. I feel like very soon you're going to be on a different level though. Forget about us. Little people bring the elevator back down. I've seen time. And again, a man it's cool for you to come now. But in the year, you're like about. This is already blowing off now. Five days ten days. No response change your number. I'll never switch up on those as long as you keep the same edgy 'cause I would say the name, but there's more reporter who me over. And I told you we're not anytime we actually for interview done done. What happened? That's you not stab me. But he was very he did it twice. Did it? Before for Brad in the pre fight press conference in the post fight press conference about the same thing. I want to go into it. And I seen him as well. He he didn't hit me up about it. But I was just gave them kind of generic answers. I didn't really give them the flavor. You don't get. I told you I'm petty. Yeah. Br. So they'll put me. And now if you're nice to me on Licey, honestly, like just be cool. If you're cool, if you if I say, I don't wanna talk about something like some guys some shoot if a guy's trying to stay away for something that keep pressing like, I'm an investigative journalist. I've ever want to get down to us. Like, he doesn't wanna talk about it. You don't so. Well, he's not getting anything from me ever again. Okay. And that's word to you guys out there where does bond when you leave? Wednesday. Okay. For a couple more days. I'm still gonna work. I'm gonna enjoy myself going to chill. Yeah. The US looking after me. So I mean people want to pay for it as more leaving for the fighters. I understand that. I understand that. And this is the monopoly. Yes. It is. But you have to do your work. You have to know your role. You have to know what you're worth as well. And there's no do so many jealous fighters right now, even backstage, I could see you could feel my guy can no like I said, you can when you see what you've been there before I've been I've been the green monster. So when I see it on everyone now, I'm the slime. Dude, man. Is enough to go around even Charlemagne just posted this thing today. Hold up. Gotta read it on my phone charging. He said. Are we posted? It was a court about like he got raised to believe that the sun is enough sun for everyone. You know, what I mean, infinite money trust me you deal work. They'll pay you trust me, they'll pay you. If you do your work, if you know, you're worth while you deserve to be payment. Thank you so much man relations, what an honor it is to to watch it. It really is. See great. It's unbelievable. A big hit. I'm all right. You're gonna get one of these. You know, one of these big dogs right here. That's coming as well along with a lot of other things. That's the cell do something that's gonna same way. That's the one. He did the McDonald one biggie walls dope. Yeah. Yes. Style bender coming through. That'd be cool. The Netflix that last eb ended. I mean, let's work. Yeah. Let's let's just hit your people out. Yes. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thanks, guys. Thanks for stopping by. Wow. What can we say? And he just walks off. He doesn't need anything. You've done this before you could come any week anytime anytime you come next week Israel. You're the man all the best guys. Take care. Thank you for coming in. While. What can we say about Israel at assign? You a rising star. And I said he is the future. No. He is the present. There's no doubt about that you shall remember his name because he is something else. Okay. Israel to Sonya. Thank you so much for coming in matter of seconds. We're going to be joined by Alliott Belaziz manager to the stars. And I know a lot of you're looking forward to this one. I am curious about this one as well. It has been an interesting month for Mr. Abella Z's, probably interesting. Couple of months, I hear a lot of laughing back there. And a lot of you have been hitting me up. What are you gonna talk about? Well, she was told. I'm surprised that he's in studio truth be told. I'm surprised he's here. I'm surprised I'm talking to him. There's a lot that we need to talk about an airing of grievances. If you will here, he comes Mr. Elliot disease with his headphones on what are you taking a call their Ellie? What's going on? What's happening who you talking to? Welcome. My friend. Handed. Why? Okay. Okay. I just try to be try to be respectful. Okay. How are you? What are you over there? What is it? What is that? Brighi? Okay. What all your prayer beads. Yeah. My uncle used to use that back in the day. You're okay there. What do you nervous live? You never send it the lights. You don't know. What's happening here? Right. You don't know. What about the come? Let's go up. Well, thank you for coming new. I just said are you done with your phone call? They're going are you recording? This it's recorded. Don't worry. I was just saying that if you told me last week that you'd be sitting here in this studio. I would've called you a liar. I I'm just here to put you on bless here. Yeah. Friends. Okay. What's let's talk. Who goes first mayor you. I know you're you're the guest. I'd like you to go. I actually okay there's and come closer to the microphone over there. It has been an interesting month for you. It's been interesting few months, I should say right because the build up to the fight the post fight. But let's be honest here because the people don't know you tweeted out things. I don't think everyone knows you were very mad at me. I woke up one morning blocked on Twitter blocked on Instagram. Send me a text message. What did you say in the tax? We're going to put the cards out on the table, right? Habib was right about you. Yes. That'd be was right about you. You have you have no loyalty to clicks. Yeah. And more click, and then after my interview with Artem you said, you're a disappointment. You said you don't ask. Him. Hardly. This is kinda you said the whole thing is I you're mad. I mean, first of all this. I should not. I have I told you. You know, what I'm saying about the guy who relevant these guys what I don't wanna be. His irrelevant. But don't think is when you have a guy like that you talking to me one of the biggest in a game. This is who you are. Everybody know how you when you talk to people and when people say something become news. But the whole thing is when you talk to people and they lie. I don't ask him to our question become fake news. That mean, you produce fake news to the people out there. What what what he say those? And by the way, people will say the same about my relationship with you don't have relationship, they will say this guy on the show, whatever I said, everything I say happened. I say what are you gonna get a title shot? He got a title shot at their Henry's old is gonna get shot. He got title shot at that Frankie shot. He got hurt. You know, come on everything I say unpredicted happen. I give flying. You know, what what people say about you? You know, this ever may work is fan. I have nothing but hating as people honestly at this point. I can give. A flight. What what everybody thinks because guess what? Like, I said. I have one masters the masters have is my friends. My fires Henza Gracie can be just engage oldest guys. This is my master. I have one master to serve my roster. Everybody else this people that treat me now. I'm like a superstar celebrity was all this stuff fans, fighters coaches, but our ended. Why were you to me though? I matter you walked me on Twitter. I got this. You got this guy. What I said when you as when he asked me questions, I answer. Yeah. Many times. I don't dodge your question. But when this whole thing would this guy Connor happened. Yeah. Did his car this start this whole relationship? Just for you to be clear K, you know, who started who started on Twitter was a tweet I want you say it. You're saying John off John Kavanagh did when I said the thing about when he this prophet Muhammad, and Jesus the whole thing is you don't think he was kind of joking there. You can't joke. Like that. Can I do about Jewish people? I cannot did you think it was malicious? You're saying this whole holy war. The bus. The bus with a tweet, but they'll two years ago, the whole thing the whole this. How things started really this? I'm this. How things started from whose perspective all these? If if you're coach. Yeah, you're fires have to look up to you. Whatever you do. They have to follow you. They sense you understand. And if it's okay for coach talking about prophet Jesus. But birth I'm thirty something man. You know, I'm surprised John put in this part because he didn't come. He deserved one. I'm telling you, it's over honestly, I don't I don't care about this. Okay. But when he interviewed his guy. Yeah. You know, what I'm saying, dude, I got called a fracking terrorist. Right. You know what I'm saying? I don't care. You can call me. The only thing out arise out anybody have before me. I will try to rise you by what by by my success? And like, I said, if anybody whatever, you know, I don't wanna act like a tough guy. But don't think is when you interview this guy, you know? One of the things to this. This thing was premature premeditated. They planned. Yeah. You understand that planned interviewed is this. This little midget, you know, what I'm saying. Artem hey said, oh, he lies you understand. Is he's straight. You know, what I don't think? Because if Connor got slept. I guarantee you Konno's slap you back. What happened is that? Can you come by himself hidden say nothing comeback was grew and grab my head. Get the hell out of here, you think of be gonna bring his crew for your punk know, what happened went to talk with him. And he grabs his lap his face. You understand? And he was talking like like an I stepped in the second time I walked off. And I say focus on you fight, you know, get out of here and his other Chechen, your friend. Got punched busted at phase Gaba stir up guess what he didn't do nothing about it because he was threatening his mouth in actually his friend on got our guy because you run his mouth the whole thing was going to be a compensation, but he was starting to flex its little short guy with him. Like, you look like on orders. Name is. Why are you so fired up right now why you guys not saw fired up and you guys won the fight? It doesn't matter. What God used to this? People abused us. Where pro this guy is two years ago? Talk about religion, right? Talk about come on how many matches you get hate much. I got a lot because what if any Muslim guy out there, send your messages about being a Jew? You have a big nose. They not Muslims. You know what I'm saying? Islam. Or Christianity or Judaism, if you believe in that you understand you're not supposed to make fun of other religion. You're not supposed to make fun of other people. Oh, how fun out there in us installed. Jewish member. Being a Jew is wrong. This is my own people insulting you they not, and I respect that. But here's my thing after the fight, and we're kind of going all over the place here. But that's after the fight has said nothing about Connor very little CONNER wrote his thing, but not despicable. I feel like you're the one who continues to make this into a personal matter making it so heated. Von we one guess what what it is personal. But you want. It's over is person. This still don't think is you tapped him, but the whole thing is no he quick. Well, let's keep this frizz. Okay. Wait. So you okay. So he'd have equal. Why are you Matt is it from being tap and quit quit? Okay. You understand the whole thing is honestly, I can give about why he's screaming writing. All this stuff is going. Making it worse. It's making this sport. Don't think is he said he wasn't a fight as a fight. Yeah. How the hell? You win the fight. You got out struck out grabble out out out wrestled, and after that use clean and the Tehran. Hey is only business. My brother you understand. It's only business. You know, what can go on your? She'll you talk about your your your your family, fun Irish. All this bullshit, bro. I'm in New York for a week. I went to an Irish bar coma. Steph, Harry Irish people come do not represent us, man. I know a lot of Irish people Joe Duffy guy, don't act like them. But don't think is, you know, me, you know, could be we don't change fame money changes. People you understand. But okay, you you talk about World Series of fighting back in the day. No one would cover World Series of fighting talk. Talk talk talk. People about us to an eye problem saying this clown, all this coun-, this all this everybody out there, you the only person you who design Nick Newell. You did. Okay. Anjar Morgan suppose being loyal to block is being loyal to send messages to me. It feels like this is all getting to your head. I if you want me to be on I feel you're getting out of control. This is not the first time I've block rock why who has that child? That's a high school kid. That right that you're taking a page out of his book who out of Dana White's book, you're acting like Dana white with the bully. You are and you're getting two motions. And you're trying to intimidate people. And you're trying to intimidate the media, you are and you can't do that. That's not your job. I am. That's not your job. I respect you for being loyal tier guys for having your intimidate the media. That's what I said to Dan. I said you're trying to intimidate me. And you're trying to you're trying to not only you are not true. If I tried to know what his out to call me appointment, only, my wife, my mom and my dad. I think if I said, I have ties disappointment disappointed me nine my son. How I read what you really wanna I misspelled, and I was wrong for saying that just to make it clear. I never want tried to anybody. You understand listen, he did a lot of things for me. Yeah. Throughout my career. You support me you being humble and oil, but that's not being Larry. I I did block before we got in a fight before. But don't think is everybody think we best friend? I respect you a lot. I think you're an honest guy. But sometime maybe you think team Connor. No, that's what I hear from all these guys. What have I said? I in the post the problem is. Yeah. The problem wasn't. I realized after this. I realize after this. This is your business you have to have many different teams. And maybe that's I think is that you, but maybe I'm wrong you understand. But in a way, I'm not the. Guy. I said he shouldn't be suspended. He shouldn't be stripped. He shouldn't be fine. I said to shouldn't be cut. What more do you want? Like what what what that? I didn't ask John Cavanaugh about a tweet that he sent out two years ago about a lot. This guy said oh Zuid should be cut. He said yours you'll be cut. Okay. And I'm saying no what the yes cut. You know, what I'm saying is you would be cut these guys prima tainted attempted morale everybody in the bus. I try to they said there was coming to kill us. Art didn't cut if he fought in Canada understand you will never be Z can even the cage Zuber they be will. We have trying to send these guys are solo is one hundred million on. On on the ground right there and Suba. Have you say fled Zuber fight and fight. And this is how they were. And even even question, it, don't even questioning me, Andrew faith. We are together. And this is honestly is sparring is he gonna get his mind to me, whatever whatever the a need to do. They have told him you manage him. Of course. I'm okay, whatever you're gonna do with him, whatever he's gonna do. But I know this you will not Sievers you not see even in any fighting a reigned, a cage a hockey ring was Zuber. I can guarantee you that. And I'm not trying nobody this is what the man want because every time this as I talked to people the San three him. I'm just outspoken. You know, the most people don't say smiling. Face comes stick you before. Right. You understand? Why not literally got stick before? Yeah. Somebody bulletin you here before it happened, I'm bullets and I'm saying, drew. It is what it is. But you should be happy. I can confront about mad at you. Not go behind your back and say listen to me, none of this mother out there. Excuse my language. Nobody can say I say something you understand. Because whatever I'm going to tell anybody. I'm saying you face. This is who I am. You understand oldest guys fake like this guy. He said, oh, you got somebody for you. You nothing who this guy. The guy was thirteen and four record. He's got the crew on come with me or let pro uk-us left. He got slightly even nothing. You don't do. Nothing you understand. And his uncle, man. Why do we wanna keep this going keep it going? But this is a monster faces guys my brothers. You. You're part of the story Connor called you a terrorist. Listen, let me ask you questions. Why don't you defend your? Itself. I do you know how to defend myself? Yeah. Because I guarantee you this man will not say this from is. I mean, he said it right in front of you in the one hundred security cameras. Well, understand Wisconsin's listen to me, I'm gonna tell you something. This guy talk. These all these guys they say, it's not over this this this this guys, they know about this life. They have these two this life. They not about this Gun Talk life. When you go to an arena. Are you pro I'm a father? But I'm I'm down for my friend. I'm down for my family. If I see on the street some down guarantee, I'll be there for you. This is why am I grew up? But then two oldest dog. They did. In backing up inside the cage. That in back out on side the. What I'm saying? You got you got people calling somebody, I'm Muslim rat and idea, of course, denied it. But guess what he was saying on Instagram and Twitter throughout the week. You understand it Dylan brought that I don't even want on. He's one mother. I see him. I promise you. I'm gonna smack him. Why brother this guy? Listen Conor McGregor is the world champion. Yeah. You understand? He's the double champ. Yeah. You understand you want an old bum? Never wanna never wanna blackbelt Jiu jitsu twenty as the as a world champion, you understand you live in this man legacy. And this is gonna problem. He's an idiot everybody sucking his blood, but it's not him. Now the world had changed. You see a guy like Habib he made in the president or the one he's going to Abu Dhabi meeting. Oldest this great shakes his going to Morocco Morocco. And he got guy driving a truck sending liquors so understand. So he. Has been meeting a lot of people. But you know, the lot of the people that he's been meeting our polarizing figures in this world controversial figures in this world, Putin vermin. Yes, put actually his car as a pitcher. Then why that doesn't make Putin Inkatha? These are controversial figures this that's what everybody's confidential you understand. You don't think Trump gonna federal? Yes, he's he's state president, right? When you get invited by people, you know, what we've been doing lately, and this honestly more important that anything's k we working on a fund was United lex ten million dollars in one year. We're going to one thousand will Africa cubby might be going to Nigeria next week. We don't things not for us. Come. You can go out there make crazy money run out. Right millions. But he said, I wanna do something. I want to go to Africa that people he wants to help. And we don't now when I advertise in that we're not doing it. But this is what he wanted to do. I want him make what to be honest. I want him to make this up. Clearances make millions of dollars. You know, I got probably five million dollar contract for him alone. And he's down hole to do what probe to meet people appearances. Like people pay him to meet you understand is little different. He become the king of the Middle East row. Now, the king of Africa is he oh, he become different. I'm not gonna compare them. Like Muhammad, Ali like dinner. Did I told Dan I man how you gonna compare trash is why trash the Muhammad Ali. Like this crazy is this respectful to the community two Muslims spritzers to to compare this pig to Mohammed Ali, you can't Mamadali. Never quit. You understand? No way. This is what we do our path you understand like you have faith. I know expected by faith. But this our faith as has to do to help other. And this is not me. This is what we wanted to do. This is why I'm so inspired by this guy. This is why I'm so far. By guy. Yeah. Understand somebody tried. But why are you keeping going is? My is not why are you going on scramming? Right. Why are you calling prostitute? That's not good. That's not a good representation of who. You are. Right. Saying things. Like that to me. I'm gonna tell you something. Yeah. If this man is not a prostitute. Who is a product. What does that even mean? This guy does anything for money. He does is talking about the be things. Things you said you want him to go get might want him to make money. That's the I don't talk. Listen to me this guy. He bring people father mother religion Chism of terrorism. This man said I was on. Have five passports. I must be better stairs on this planet because I'm free baby. I'm here. The only person got terrorists he got terrorized inside this, and I'm gonna tell you something too. If her dean was not there caller McGregor been dead today, you understand 'cause he's talking about killing people and doing this. I'm telling you, he's not about this life. They now about this life. That's what he has all these guys around here. But this guy cannot intimidate us. He cannot if those labels and accusations aren't true. Why don't you come out and deny them once and for all so the kid can give a fly in what? But what people say clearly bothers you off. Okay. Let me tell you. If someone called me a terrorist. I would be doing everything in my power to if I wasn't to deny correct. But I don't care, you know, talks about your past. Why don't you? If he says that you're an informant a double edge, someone like are you crazy? Keep saying it keeps that that's your. Tation? That's what. Business. No, right. Right. He's he's he's he's a liar. You understood why are you saying this now, but I'm gonna tell you something. I don't know. I something why don't you just climb in? I've been ten year in this game. Right. Yeah. Ten years have won only guys left for reasons. News down, my friend. Did is they just have a baby related, right? Didn't Brunson leave and then come back yet? Yeah. You understand? That's true. Good memories. Yeah. But guess what? I'm happy. I'm grateful. That's what I'm not a manager. Everybody out there. If you're looking for a manager. Don't call me. I'm interested. I'm a full blown promoter a manager can pick up the phone. Do your flight. I got people does that. I don't I don't do that. I got team. Does that like I I am a promoter. You know? I said we will change the game from ways. But I am doing it. You understand who do you work for? I for me. I promote. See brother, they wish motive for you can't afford. How are you? The only guy was allowed in the cage. What do you mean? You're like the only manager who's allowed in the case. I was a positive state problem if another manager yelled economy Gregor the way you did at that press conference. They would've been banned from the building. How is it possible that you are allowed to do whatever you want? You know, what it's I have this relationship. You have to understand everything me and Dana and hundred row I got in a fight with hundred other day me and yesterday, I went off on a thanks much. And he called me and honesty. We my place because I was wrong. What was it about? Understand it. No floyd. But the whole thing is I whatever problem we have. I don't let I I don't I don't air out and this when you do business on this level. I can't make a personal about me. But guarantee you me undisguised we bark on each other. You understand me on Sean, our friend. Cianci is a great guy me and him. We he's honestly he's the one of the meanest guy. He go out everybody. I agree. But he just kidding. But he does is one of the best ham. You know? It make is a nice guy, but makes the planet, but don't let it for you make make we'll also put you in your place. If any a lot a lot of managers think you have some kind of deal with the see that you get some sort of how do you get all these fighters? How do you get all these title-fights? How do you how how is it possible? I thought some other guy was getting all this fights. I listened to me over manager there. You know, they do good do good work for you guys. Get out of this is my job. You can nobody can blame me for doing my job, right? By my guys getting title fight. This is good or bad those great my jaw game, pay more money. It's good or bad. Great. That mean, I'm doing my job. Whatever relationship. I have with your see. It's nobody's business. I guarantee you nobody nobody under supplant it. Fight with Dana, white mood and meet. But so different when I speak with this man, I respect what he doesn't from the sport. He doesn't love for everybody. I don't care. I know you happy for them. If you always bring this up. It's okay. Because I think he did a lot for you won't even allow for him. This is my thing. This is what I look at. You like Mohammed Ali have interviewed him all the time. And I think you guys did. But you guys fell off, you know, I hope you guys get back to good graces because I think you guys need each other point, you know, but my relationship with the other day with this. I would not which one which one lower lawyer Atari commission over show up, and he said, sit down crazy mother. He would look I need, you know, sometime I go off on certain things sometime, I'm wrong. But sometime, I'm right? I'm right. You understand the whole thing is I'm nine two mediated by these guys. I'm not sure we friend whose guys I don't kiss up guys everyone every manager there have an opportunity for this. Register die burn it. Or they got too close or something happened you understand and say man, whenever I think a lot of your your beat fans. Got mad at me because I said he stealing Connors playbook the whole thing. Please enough with the Floyd thing is supposed to be the guy who brings some sanity back to the sport. We saw the Floyd story dead now. Now the Floyd is going to Japan to point about this week. We end this. I'm know I always see even a boxing match. I wanna see him in MMA where he's best. Okay. I make two points. First of all. And I'm not kidding you stumbled does a hate mashes for this, man. It doesn't matter Jewish Christian. If you are Muslim, you cannot make fun. That's number one thing. Number two things. This is not of your business. I'm gonna tell you I this none of your business. If the whole thing is can be created twenty seven fights. Twenty seven win. The man never got cut. Never been dropped. Never got a black eye in Tunis fight his legacies there. Sure his legacy is there. Now me as the big brother as the manager. Tony, I one of the greatest fighter Neo see today. They don't just you know, wrong winning streak me. Have you been steady years old, right? Yeah. Still young. Yeah. If I have a hundred million dollars pay day. A few the manager or fifty Melander pay any in an air hockey and fucking basketball. I can't you can't you get that in the UFC. Do you think that you've seen they stupid? They're going to print money. They're going to give you fifty mile. He's on as use at what I got more than two hundred twenty. Okay about what he's best that. You can't get the money. You're looking for it to fight Conor or two GS P. I try legit speed. Gonna just to make it clear. Yeah. I touched your I talked about P this. He didn't know when he when he come on. I love this. This is my big brother. What he thought about yours? He have no idea. Right. But the thing is you have to understand George. It's a fight cubby wanted will come I father of the Manab wanted. It's a fire. So why don't they make it something? If they know. Is one of the greatest promote of all the time. He will give spe- a fight. I fifty five pounds and after we maybe even bounce again. Do it like not not has Heus fought. Matt Hughes sixty catchweight fight legend versus champion. Okay. I'm cubby is yours beat Kebbi Kebbi Steeler champ. So value go down. Now, yours fight. You know, if if DC lost the steep as value doesn't go down when he went up he was still the light heavyweight champion, and it happens all the time. It's like when BJ Penn lost to Georgia UC ninety four. His didn't go down not up. This guys can bring this kind of revenues. I understand you have to understand today to me it just felt like deja vu of the whole Connor Floyd thing. Like, you guys are supposed to be the ones who are the money. You guys are the ones who don't want the show and all that stuff. Yeah. Whoever money, meaning anybody the money the purity of the game. Is it sanctity of this hour? Anybody above the money? Nobody would be fighting because a lot of guys don't even like fighting five because money because you know, a lot of pressure this fighters people fighters, they go through so much they training family that to be separated from their family could Nazis family. He fought four time. I think three times twelve called me. And you told me be never gonna speak to her. Again. You said that right? I care of it. What had why did he say why what did I say we stick together? But what did I say that's a threat you're trying to fight on trying to get me to speak in a different way. You're telling me he's speaking ever again. Nobody can control you listen. Can I tell you something about, you know, the reason you got from FOX thing because nobody can control you control, you how am I can't control my supposed to respond to that control? Me. You didn't want to control me the only prison trying to. But she can't do you. Try to bull as I on this way. I'm I'm not a bully run. Listen. I would I go I can go for a coffee. You we talked. Yeah, we good. But don't think is like I said, I never I never called you the b word like other other people did the D word disappointment. I said this listen because you wanna read it right now a show it on the screen. Sure. I don't care you put it. I don't need to read it. It is what it is. I said it just it is what it is. But the whole thing is right now, we're talking about this money, fight, whatever. If course cabbie is next fight. I don't care what eating because this is my job. I have to make sure he's taking care of what what does he do next? We we have a battle than better commission. This guy's met up. Once that gets cleared. Listen, listen, honestly, they've coalition. I think my opinion. Whatever fight next. He have to fight unless vase to make. Yes. No holding half his purse. They're holding half is quote, unquote. What they holding right? Nobody knows is Roe person. Okay. This is I know eventual. Yeah. This is what they're holding a million dollars. They hold a million dollars. You're okay with that. And we are we have we have lawyers. We talk about Bennett, we cooperating, you know, we we're going to try to this whole we should get. I'm not a commission. I want him to get nothing. Okay. Zero suspension zero money, but they have to show teeth. That's 'cause whatever happened cannot happen. But what happened happened before? But people didn't get about it this. She and John Jones what they do. Nothing corner jumped out of the kids before he got nothing. Connor head is in a press conference nothing. Right. But that understand the magnitude the people's there, you know, listen for can visit to enter the we one happy. I'm so happy that even even even was fifty five. I'm so happy said that I want we happy can we down now. Why are you fired up? Why are you ready to say it's too much? Let's see man. But you know, why did you write last week? I have news. That's can I tell you my theory. You said I have news that's going to blow everyone's mind. You remember that? Yes. I tell you my theory is my theory is you didn't have news. I did have news. What was it? But but you guess what? What listen. I I tell you. I'm gonna tell you what public any mother mother afra- deny. I have proof K. What is it? What was the news? You know, we was talking to Floyd team actually throw it reach out the recklessly, and he said wanna talk any answer because I don't know. It's number. We talked after I talked to people he understand. And I I picked up the phone. And I let the you've seen because we contract with the of. And I let him know the fight. What's what's happening and things are going? But Now, Dan this have some meetings was his team, you know. But then have this is where me and then our difference. We don't agree on this thing right now he thinks he can bring Floyd fighter near see right hands. Be. Yes. He thinks he can do this. I don't doubt the man because he's a lot of you can do. Right. But you have to understand Floyd is not a real fighter. He's not. He's a boxer. You understand? You know, what I'm saying fighting Connor? It was okay because Carter narrow fighter to Connor is like, you know, he get tired. He quit in what I'm saying. And this noted him, but the whole thing is, you know, if you're gonna bring Floyd Mayweather, I think as logic. The guy how how it would kill him. You know, it was it'll be no human day that this is what they know wanted to do. He said I like this as like Connor guys whipped for one hundred million, right? He wanted to bring hobby Floyd octagon game Stony did for if you wanna make the money. You gotta be very much is the does the Japan thing affect us at all no dramatic show, man. You know, I think that you are getting jealous then co was getting so much credit that you were like, oh, I want some attention. That was my theory. Yeah. Stay orchestrated the biggest trade, right? The first trade he orchestrated that he was getting all kinds of love. And I felt like you thought like I need some of that. No. I got much. I got voicemails. I got I got everything and if anybody from Floyd team or from the sea gotta say, something, I'll put everything on social media your listen when Floyd Mayweather Koi directly. Yeah. This is a big news. It is big news because if how can make hundred million dollars under contract, so you have to get them. One. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. How much did he make for the Connor fight? He made he made very good money. He's good much figures. Over ten. You said he won't fight for fifty million Dana laughed at that. That's okay. When asked him he said, he's the promoted it the whole thing is listen, they know what he's job to get the best product for the lowest money again. This is his project. You know what I'm saying? So I give me on fire copy. Who's a very good deal. That's what he wants. He treated us very early times things change if you paid his dollars. Are you upset that kinda made that much more than you deserve? How I can be upset up. He earned. He deserves every bit of it. Listen to me, one of the things I will never take away from Connor his one of the best promoter. He changed the game. Everybody's making more money because you know, that I think you know, he's a prostitute. Yes. I think he's one of the guy changed the game. And I we all make money because him. Yes. One hundred percent. But if I understand Connor is is is popular among American people. Some Irish people little bit a Europe. But koby. Guarantee you. Today. Who's more problem Connor hobby lobby a bigger star worldwide for much much bigger star? What what now you have done? What about what about you? What about you because you just came on the show right now? And you said I'm a promoter. Now to me promoter. You are telling the world that that if they think it's been too much. It's going to be even more is everybody's in for rude. Awakening was listen to me. I've been promoted my guys, I've been promote my guys and work with PF L. No. I don't work. I'm as a fan. I got into them whatsoever. No, I loved his guy promotion, no no zero be fail. I feel all this story out media. They're innocent. Reporter you're on this guy spending millions of dollars you understand. They're gonna pay guys guys for twenty years. Right. Ten years then ever make a million dollars got last Palmer, Steven Siler Vinnie? Oldest guys might be making a million dollar. She'd you know now why? Guys. Can I get love, you know, Kayla Harrison? Yeah, she ever to go to the sea and to go to fail when I look if she going to win she gonna close to three million dollars right is about money. The you'll see amazing to be there if I'm a fighter I wanna find me. But when you look at the money, I think be fail. Everybody think I worked. I don't work there. I used to work at it and manage at the same time, right guys. What? And I said it I didn't deny it. But guess what? I am upper motor. I will promote Frankie Edgar Cody Garbrandt, Marla mariah's, even mock moth Islam market. Chef I will promote these guys become this huge machine. A lot of people will get left behind whatever. I'm doing people say I'm talking you'll never hear me talking about myself. I'm the greatest manager and this. I'm this was about my guys Henry sold right now. You think I have a good relationship with your see we have the. The biggest beef right now that you see about Henry, you know, it's a problem. It's. Listen to me. Let's talk about the meter Johnson damange done then media Johnson. If he wanted a rematch. We was willing to give him a rematch. The meter is left. Because for two things because one is a good promotion going to be a lot of money shelter out. There is a smart guy. And he does a good job. But he knows. Mystique is gone Henry's demand. Now, you know, you you you you rain much respect for this caveman. I know a lot of things before, but I have nothing but love respect, but he understand he cannot be Henry anymore. He moved on. How are we going to trade that great is of all the time? Like, everybody said, I think that all the time I have to be John Jones or Kobe. John Jones have to come back. If you never lose around in ever lost nothing should be considered. I just be the Conor McGregor champion. But I think that meters is not aggressive all the time. I have to be John Jones cabbie Jorissen, piano, composition to understand self. You know now, I didn't sell call me. Of course, you have you know. But then you have of course, have to be concerned about this genre lost right to what's your haunting. But I'm talking about they got been answering. Right. That's right. Yeah. They you'll see the not trade the media Johnson. I'm saying they probably not gonna like it. They got radio Dmitri Johnson. Well, they got something in return. What they do. Ben ash. I'm happy for asking. Yeah. I went to end this weekend. But you can't trade the greatest of all the time for the same money is like this is like the patriots traded. Tom Brady from our Charlene how this possible. So what is your point though? The whole thing is straight is the Henry Suharto thing. Why are you in a beef with of see about him because they want that mean first of all you've got ready Henry pseudo at Henry allowed him because sorry, the mattress let me just gonna make so much more money to you Hugh make three times much money. Right. Who's call me right now who Machi? That's okay. That's okay. Maybe he wants to refute. What you're saying? No. They did a good really did a good job. He makes them each is gonna make so much more money. Right. You understand that meets just gonna make so much more money. He did a good job. And he brought and asking asking give him a gift because man asking we'll never see knock is not. It was monkey you understand. But the matrix Johnson, did whatever he did. That was the best thing responsibly. But don't think is I believe part of me. I think. He kinda got the rematch because he didn't want it. But you'll see one or two because I thought Henry come to Henry Henry will play ball and move up, you know, and move up and and just be like, no more one twenty five. That's what they wanna do. Yeah. Why no idea? I don't know. Because I don't think anybody gold medalist who speaks Spanish Portuguese. Go looking guy if they pay enough Henry is to go up. If you're not gonna like everybody is about money. This is about money now. And that's your job. This is about the let me ask you this. Yes, when Conrad listen, I'm not this about Malki or Henry. They did a good job. Yeah. 'cause I know I know the meters got paid a lot of money. Most of the champion. They not gonna make what what's this isn't a train. What's the meters? Gonna make he's gonna be can eight figures, maybe may more even than eighty right? You understand that mean, he's secure? Future. But they see very much they destroyed just get rid of the Mitri. But he's smart. I think that you've have lost than win. Okay. Fair enough. It's just my opinion. Let me ask you. I know I know you're active online blocked me into your active online. I know you look at the comments every time. I have you on the show. I get killed for it. Right. When he why you have this guy on while you haven't Monto to to put out his negativity and his past, and I've asked you a million times about your past, right? I've asked you million times. Why don't you come out and clear the air once and for all Connor is the writing about you in the Washington Post? I'm going to do them. Why win time out just wants it? No other. When I when I saw them everything will come up. Why my lowest right now. No, why why I gotta talk about what I did. What am I calling? Calling you a terrorist people on my thing. They're like this guy's listen to just say anybody wanna call me that come set at my face off. I'm gonna if you wanna say to my face just shut up. Right. That's it. Whatever I do. I'm going to shoot auction boost Connor they say Sukarno, but I don't wanna switch on it. I really don't wanna do because I know he's promoting defied. Don't agree. What he said. I have no intention of soon. But I'm in the process Hsun Washington Post, one hundred see the Washington Post for what for saying that you think think call you they reported what he said it's a lawsuit because it's liable is character, bro. I have people said they wanna kill my children. They wanna they wanna rape, my family is, of course, copied a lot of problems. If in me, I believe that religion agree with you hundred percent religion family should not be discussed. But in this fight. You were attacked, right? Religion was discussed and your family was brought up and you didn't want to talk about this. Right. What you know what I talk about it more. I'm gonna make news. And more is going to affect me. It doesn't have it doesn't bother me because the air and just I I don't need to clear nothing because more. I talk more. We're gonna write me, you know, when you speak people, you know, people are drawn to it. Right. But listen to you become a character in the sports, not about being a part of becoming famous part of becoming in the public eye is sometimes having to address things that are said about you. Right. I know you can't address everything that I I dress lawsuit because when you do a lawsuit. Everything's going to have to come who who are you suing just Washington buzzed for now. But they're not the ones that said they were reporting. This is my lawyer job to do what he does didn't bother you that got personal about you that you became a story in this fight to be honest with you. I think sign of weakness, I think sign of weakness for somebody to talk about family children. And and religion, I think is weakness because he no he doesn't have any showed a short when he went to side, this cage. He wanted to get in honeybees mind. He that's Conor McGregor that he does a great job getting people's mind. This is what? He does you know, whatever this is what he that. He's good at that. But twenty did was even backfired on him. It's put a later afire undercover. But and he was training three or four times a day. He never does motivated more. See how come you were in the back during the fight? Because I felt I didn't wear a suit. I was with my sweat so much thinkers, I felt doing this fight. I was too much in the I was I was too much. I was in group. And I felt it's time for me to stop back. And now, you gotta watch to the best lightweight in the world ever fight each other. So it bother you that you were brought up that you are part of the story. But yet you made yourself part of the story, right? You are the one before even on this show back in the day. You are calling Connor before. Right. I know this is the fight is gonna take his legacy do from level. Of course. So if you're going to interject yourself you have to sort of. I didn't talk about congress family, children your wife. Yes. Father come on short talk a lot. I did not say one bad thing about his you're right. And I never will. You're and I never will. This is not who I asked her. Why didn't you respond when he talked about your family because the whole thing is the only respond. I wanna give it to him punch him cross is knows I'm breaking you one hundred percent. He's talking about my family. Let me talk about your family in. I this is why I wanna fight somebody talk about my family is nothing. You know, if anybody talk about your family in a bad way, you have to smash in how you don't want to smash him. And this is why for me, I'm my mindset talking is gonna make me more under you understand. You understand my family never have this. My son never did nothing to him. My my wife that there'd be understand us and all my family's upset about this all the emails all this thing. It doesn't matter. If you must be this, this this this, this is horrible. Do you wanna clear the air? Do you wanna clear 'cause he was what about your family about what he said about your family is my family is my family was asking do you can't why I want to discuss my children my bra. It got brought up in the face. What guess what he's a low life piece of what he is this. I know you'll never do that. I know. Joe Johns like certain guys, but the guy he have no values. You understand you understand like me and monkey right? We have we have beef right before stay between us. We talked all the time. We are we when they come out monkey call me won't keep you hit up. Whatever, you know. Like, the whole thing is and we have before. But because what we men will keep things about. But you never see me come out and say bad things about him. But he said bad things about me, or I have problems other manager or this person, or this person is that why you're continuing this thing is it's so personal. It is personal Ehrich person. Even though you on doesn't matter this man insulted, my family, my religion where I come from. It is personal because cabbie guys revenge. I didn't what did you think? What do you want you taking? I don't know. I I'm gonna tell you. I'm not gonna show him. You're not. No, I I have a lot. So crazy. Saugus. Connor why you create how we're gonna talk about somebody like that. But the whole thing is I'm not in it so people because he called you a terrorist. Listen to me, I'm over this whole thing. Okay. It is what it is to be honest with you. I'm not gonna say over everything's, okay. We make one no no is wanna fight him. Again. You want to fight on this into me right now. Whatever want want I'm going to do. But what is he telling you? He wants. Do you wanna talk about fighting rennet? Right. We ever commission. This is a big problem. You know? But you know, but you know, the whole thing is like I understand I feel like it's better for everyone. If we move on a little bit from this for you for your sanity job is the choice our choice. It's not your choice who say hoping is when you talk about money who's going to bring them the biggest money fight like DC on John Jones. Right. You think guys fall for the third time? It would not be even bigger. Of course, he'll be bigger. I'd have. Anyway, you know, you got one of the greatest of all the time. John Jones, come back. He'd be CDC become the heavyweight champion. They come back. A lot of things said it doesn't. But I believe John Jones, and they see they did not talk about their religion or their families. They did not. And you felt that was too much. No, they didn't John Jones and DC didn't talk about each other's going with you in your cause down. The John Jones Jones talks about it a little bit. But I it's a little, but it's not the same. I know he says I go to your house. But I. These guys have found these guys don't have nothing. That's why says a prostitute not because actually getting Bank. I'm talking about he because he does every Artem saying that he called him a chicken. And where where they're from. Is that true? Do you know about that Russia? These are not first of all these guys are not being the c on his record. Right, right. This you number one play him like crazy. What do you mean? You play me. So you the you come how come on you you playing him eight believe that? No, he does. If this guy is not going to up in the AFC one hundred percent. He's a draw people like him he draw because he is a clown. You understand worth? He got he's. Never go never got finished his record. He got finished. Like so many times in the UC. Madam though, I don't care about this. He's nothing. Honestly. He's honestly. I feel like he's got into this middle things. You're not gonna middle of it. But he put himself in it because he's talked about cubby if he shut his mouth shut his mouth nothing happening. Right. But he opened his mouth. Yup. Understand this guys from douglaston Russia. They one of the nicest people, most generous, respectful guys. But. Certain things you don't cross with them when this guy's not over these over. Hey, what happened? You know to my impression is this isn't over. This is what's this can never be over. They said this cannot be over. But I'm telling you this cannot be over. This is going to be over because I. I like that while the history. Created hollywood's. Yeah. Right. And this guy. Hey created a holy wars. Try to Connor. Yeah. Was a knife. But he doesn't understand. It was a lot of tanks and aeroplanes when you talk about things like that. It's it's a bit scary. I must say that scares the game. It's supposed to be fun. Give adulting is like, I'm telling you. I'm defending new nobody should be because this is Cussing. Yeah. If somebody talk about being a Jewish big knows about your family, this is discussing Islam. They say that Christianity say that. If you are be not talk to you this way, we not with us. Our brother you understand. Nobody should talk about this. These you cannot do this so bad you understand. So somebody's wife. Somebody's kid somebody son. Why why they they say home? They do nothing to nobody. They innocent. What's your wife lets religion to everybody talk about? Oldest people older people talk to me in that to me. I swear to God to not bother me one bit Connor bothered me, you know. But these people Connor bother you because this Connor about there because he started a lot of a lot of hate. He started become hate when he called Utara him. I don't hate nobody. I do not hate him. But this guy this startup people are never even shake his hand. You understand how forgive him to be forgiving me. How are we good? Now. We are good. Listen to me. I know you never gonna talk about my my mother, and my wife, my son. But we have you realize what the job of the media is. Yes. And honestly, I think I want apologize to because I expect so much from you. But I think but I shouldn't. But it's one of those things like there's so much information out there about you. And there's Conor McGregor talking about you. And the fact that is a quick owner that guys say a lot of the most powerful though, he's not he don't want puffing what he's the age draw. He's used what? And then you come out. And you say this guy's not gonna talk in this guy, and we're gonna it's just the whole thing is a bit. Everything's good. I think you need to go on vacation and calm down one on good. Okay. Good luck. Listen. Yeah. Like, I I wanna say couple of things here just before Tissa jar, right? Okay. One of the things to okay, let me ask you Machi wants to talk to do you wanna talk to him? Now, if you wanna talk, we can talk, you know, why everyone ETR conversation that's fair. I I don't think it's fair to put you on the spot. He wants to say something to you. But I am we can talk. We talk every day, we can talk. Everyone's to say something to you on the air. But I don't think talk to me if you wanna talk me, I'm a call. I said they did a good job. I know. He's suck. He'd be mad. But you wanna thought asking me, they're asking me? So that's I don't think it's fair to put you on the spot. That's why I would ask you first. And that's fine to forget about it. Okay. He had what did you say? Henry Henry is just not going to go thirty five and just be like, okay. I'm gonna go thirty five number one thing. Like like, I mentioned him l'amour iceman on fries. He's getting screwed being just fire. Supposed to fire crew said no was to find out. How you know? I don't know why he said, no you understand. Now, the men stuck with not to fight. You know, it's a lot of things man. I'm I'm kinda tired. I'm done done yet. I win ten nine. How lonnie? Draw? Rumble Johnson, I thought rumble last week. Right. And he said John Jones DC has heavyweight. On John win if John win he wanted to come back. And this is the only five he think you come back to John John's, but a heavyweight or light-heavyweight John Johnson's two hundred eighty five pound. Okay. That's it. So he's considering a comeback or he is coming back. He wanna come back as heavyweight. Okay. But but I think have to be something different. He can just he he missed us for the sport. And he said he will come back to fight someone like John Joe, whatever to the body building. He's having fun. And he thinks he's been on for a long time. He's resting his body and fight again. He will fight again for sure hundred under percents. So he has to go through your side again though because he retired. Yeah. Six months. I say so we good you calm down. I'm calm. Stop threatening. The media. I'm not trying to you know, you the only. John. Kevin. I I never threatening right? Having. Wasn't it? Jon Morgan, I want the last month not going to be on it. I be honest with you. I didn't talk to you for the last three weeks. I was I was in heaven. It was so great. Without you bothering me threatening me and bullying me. It was amazing. It was amazing. Wow. This is a great life. I don't need this guy. Relationship. I'm going to say, but now stop the block the blocking. That was twelve year old kid with the blocking. Honestly, it's I know sometime quite did. I say this. Yeah. You understand? I see a lot of things. I shouldn't. I shouldn't say, but it's funny. That people think that were like buddy buddy went understand when we talked people. Listen, I don't know about that. It was great talking to you for a month. I loved it. It was you know, who's responsible for all of this the vault without him. None of this is happening. He was still Daniel my man areas guy. You guys have a good relationship. And he said he said, I was wrong. He can act specked from him. He's not your partner. He said, he's not your partner. He's doing his job and you need to do your job. And to say, listen, I showed him blocked, you gotta it. He shouldn't send me threatening messages. I didn't try. All the stuff. All right. Okay. All right. We're good. We're good this ajar here jar who she? Yeah. She's her to she was mad at me. Also. I have no reason to be mad at you. And I have to defend you on this one, you know, the jar. She just she's a great Gherman and she worked really hard. But I of the day we have to make weight. It was our fault mcquaid. She blew up. She her next five guarantee identified she probably not gonna get it. Now, she have to kinda you're gonna talk to you. And she can okay. Let's do. Thank you for coming. Got Salama like tell by say, Hello, Okay. Text them. I don't have number changes it every week. All right. It's he probably bought me to there. He is Elliott delicacies good times. Wow. That was fun Ali. And here's the Jarrah. No rest. Thank you. And I'm sorry for keeping you waiting. I'm not sure if you heard, but Lee likes to talk. I'm actually so happy. I'm so happy to see you because this is probably going to be a lot more enjoyable than that. Then all right. After that. Thank you for coming. I appreciate it. I didn't think you'd ever come back. Oh, man. I we need to clear up, but we did already. We went on this whole back and forth. My my whole thing is I always felt throughout my career. If someone's mad at me, and in particular fighter have the utmost respect for all of you every single one of you that walk in. I just wanna come to you and clear the air. And if you don't wanna talk to me ever again, that's cool. But at least want to tell you why should this or one understand why you're mad, and we went back and forth. And you're very honest text much respect. I I know that you like to keep a real. So I am happy that you're here after all that. Because I didn't think that you would come. I'm happy to be here. And I can respect you coming up in in saying how you fell and we were able to hash it out and chitchat, and that's all I wanna do. I just like to be heard. And and I appreciate you putting a platform for us to be able to speak and clear mines and like you say like you saw lease. We can come on your show and say, whatever we feel so that's the lots respect. Congratulations on the win is it with mixed emotions. Yeah. Are you? You're not really able to to to actually like be happy about this one. And celebrate or are you going to be happy celebrated because I was able to accomplish a lot over the weekend. I was happy my performance. My family came out to see me, my my dad's all my fights. I did have a couple of bit. Like, I have my mom come down. Cousins. Never see me fight. It's Madison Square Garden like there's a lot to be happy about. But there is the little disappointment there that I wasn't able to make it to the scales. Do I wanted to? So what happened? Yeah. I don't know we have to we have to figure it out. I was coming in lean been working really really diligently to get my my body, right? A year ago? We know happened. I was hospitalized. And I went to PI was working really closely with nutritionists and doing everything like I felt like I was supposed to do. And I was coming into this fight week lower than I did my last cut for you. There's Laura Murphy in in my body whenever I cut to win twenty five one thirty between. Thirty one twenty eight is really when it starts to get tough. And I had hit one twenty eight and was just men. I I would be cutting like that day. I went from I woke up I can't remember remember exactly, but we had started around nine thirty with maybe four or five pounds to go and cut for two hours like sweating, mid smeeting, mid sweating mitts and only got like a pound point seven off. And it just starts to get exhausted. And you know, I kinda was worried I was like if I if I push it too hard and I make it like hospitalized. Like last time. I'm not gonna have any fight. So I kind of like if if we pull the plug pound early I'm going to get dragged at least I'll have a fight. Okay. And so it's kind of what is in. And I'm a female in everyone all the fans and people hate to hear it. But you know, once a month, we have everything in and it makes a difference. Your body wants to hold onto the soul. It wants to hold on biologically like. You have to have some kind of fat and and watering you in order for your natural cycled happen. So so I heard from some people said like you showed up I think at around nine thirty still had some time left. Why didn't you go to the buzzer and try to cut as much as possible or you just couldn't? Not that. I not that. I couldn't. But I was speaking to the have doctors, and they were like just let me let's make some calls a sea of rock is okay with it. Let's let's see if everyone's okay with this and just leave you here. Because if we suck you out too, much more, we're going to commission sees you. They're going to if the commission sees you struggling in. And they know that you had struggles in the past. We don't want them to Yankees. And I I don't wanna be yanked either. So. So they they they offered me the chance to win at nine thirty and starts rehydrate instead of waiting until eleven you knew that you had a title shot. If you on is that no longer the case, I'm assuming not how do you feel about that? It hurts. It hurts. Second time. Right. Second time gotta be the charm here. Yeah. I guess it. Will you get a third time? Hope so I mean, my my my my goal in life is is to be real champion. You no matter. What ways I was determined to do flyweight? But I don't know, man. I'm gonna be champ one day one way or another thirty five twenty five I really feel structurally based on hive stood like literally stood side by side by some other band weights. I feel like structurally, I'm closer to the size of flyweight. It's just been. It's just been a hard cut. I got a lot of muscle. I've been test. I have a lot of muscle mass. And it's hard to chip away at muscle. Mass fats, easy, hit the treadmill? You run around you diet clean. Your fat starts to come down. But to to to deplete some your muscle. Masters takes a lot more time. I'm going to get a belt one way or another. It's just it's just my goal in life in dead fast determined to get it. So when the ultimate fighter was announced. And it was for the Bill at flyway. I was like all right. Tim more pounds is gonna suck. And it was going to be terrible cut. But this is the quickest path to the built in any fighter that is determined to be champion. They want to pass that's going to get them there without taking twenty freaking years. You know? So I just taking me a lot longer. I've been in weight, and I knew that by entering fighter tournament. I could get my foot in the door of the UFC and make some noise and get close that built. So I hope that flyweight I really wanted to be a flyweight. And I wanted to do some things I want to go back to John board and see what we can do here. But the end of the day, you know, we gotta we gotta make sure I'm healthy. I gotta go home to my kid at end today. There have been some scenarios some situations in the past. Where do you see is almost ask someone to go up? Right. Kelvin gasoline comes to mind others as well. Anthony johnson. Do you think they'll ask you to go up at this point? I'm not. I'm not sure would you be open to it up. Yeah. 'cause I rather keep my job at one thirty five. I have another older. So we have to ask my doctor gonna cut you. But if they say, look, there's nothing for you. Here we can't possibly put you in a title fight because you've missed. Option flyweight, I'm out here. Because I want to Bill I want to strap told you about what they think. No, we haven't talked. What do you think? Like, what's the point of going through the whole one twenty five cut? Do you think you're you're at a disadvantage, I want thirty five? I don't to be honest with you. I think is a had a lot to do with my ego. I just don't like to like. Okay. So I can I can talk. Okay. So I was abandoned wait for when I first started my career because I didn't think ever going twenty five like I had been kind of heavy kid my whole life. And when I was doing to just do it the blackball levels competing 163 like so all you've been kind of buff, husky kinda grow. And then you know, I my manager at the time. I think you're flyweight. Let's take some fights before the flyweight division will come into eventually. And so my first cut the flyweight was like this terrible. I've never doing this again. I thought it was terrible. It was the first time I fought Caitlyn. Actually, I only but after that went back up to benway started lifting, and I started trying to swell up for bantamweight. And then when they also Smith fighter I try to go back down. And now what what happened the year ago been hospitalized? Really to me. I felt like that first house was Asian was my fault. I didn't think I did what I was opposed to do as far as attrition as far as conditioning as far doing I supposed to do to prepare for that. I had a shot. I was offered guest. Nico montani. I think came at fighter a little gassed and little overconfident and kinda just like hanging out. And then that first one was my my fault. It's always like after eating myself. And so that's when I started to really take my condition seriously. I think we talked about this the first one was on your show. And so I got down to a walk around those under one fifty coming into Lauren fight. And like I said we're working really closely with the PI in Clinton was in. We have to continue. It's going to take us some time to get you under in walking around as lean as possible with as little bit a fat on your body as possible is going to take some time. He's like if I could I would tell you to wait like a year. But I just don't have the luxury of waiting that long between fights. So after Lauren I did. Okay. But because I wasn't really at that walk around and needed to be a blue backup after more. And again it started coming back down. And I just I just couldn't I just didn't have didn't have the last two pounds coming into this weekend. It just was it just it just paint me. I was like I can't go back to the hospital, man. A part of me when I miss I don't I don't like to miss. I'm like to be wrong. I don't like to. Embarrassed that way. So part of me like a part of me was like can we try to go after I I've been talking to Clinton go out to the PI soon as possible. Okay. Have you ever been there? Okay. Wh-? What is it like to fight it MS, gene? Get booed before the fight. You're getting booed. I got to pretty bad at the fans or smart they follow. They know what's going on. What what does that? What does that do to you? I don't care. You don't care. Awesome. You're playing it up again. What's up, y'all? Yeah. Probably talking smack right now. You know, you gotta live Twitter feed somebody right now talking about right? And it doesn't bother you know, why not listen. I'm a black woman. I'm gay black woman in America. Somebody's gonna hate me at some point. And you don't hear go look here right now. She's playing the race card. No. It is what it is. Like, I've been I've been a fan of sports I've been a fan of mixed martial arts and I've seen some athletes crumble under the villain card. Some athletes were at the top of the game to something. And then, you know, the fans start to hate them in there, like hotel love me, you know, seen it happen. And I was like at some point. They're gonna hate me. I just kind of put that in my head. If they if they never hate me, and I'm loving the whole career great. I'll be loving the whole career for some point. The people hate me. I can't fight it. Like, I can't sit appearing let it mess with my inner peace. So I think you're playing it up perfectly. Yeah. Why not you might as well brace embrace it? Right. Whatever it is. And still the end of the day. Like is gave me a lot of notoriety in the last what last time I spoke to like not too many people knew I was except for those from a fighter that year this time. Like, yeah, I'm coming up Emma's you being like that many people even know. So I thought you played it. Well in the aftermath UFC won the fight. But I was disappointed. One thing. You didn't say anything to Joe Rogan, Joey what happened that was your chance? You know me. Now, Joe, you know, Joe. So Joe came out to me right before the interview he came up to indicate before before the cards were announced he came up, and he showed his spec meeting disrespect by it. And I was like Joey had to do me. Like that have to dismiss me that way. And he was like this. I say lot of things I talk a lot. But I I really didn't mean it you put on a great fight in. I hope it's cool. Okay. And so we did speak. She don't wanna put on blast. No, not after that. He kind of did he came up to me indicates you show me respect is about respecting. Okay, fighters out here. Like, we're putting our we come out, and we we risk almost everything. Yeah. To get out in a cage and chased what we love in front of thousands, hundreds tens of thousands of people like, you know, the the the Ristori ward is crazy like have some respect. So you're all over them. Yeah. I'm going. I'm not here. I'm not here to beef. I'm here to like respect respect you posted the tweet that I think some people the wrong way, the the show like no, I'm sorry. No long explanation. Just that. I'm sorry for what I should die for you guys out here. Right. Because I mean, I have to say responsibility. I apologize to my coaches. I apologize to my to my family. Apologize to my teammates. Those are the people. Oh apologies to because I represent my team at the end of the day. I represent Marquette Ricardo Mehta team has Gracie Jamal Patterson. My teammates were there with me every day, my family, whose depending on me, those are the people. I. To those are the people who I let down myself, you know, but I can give ragged either way on Twitter, whatever gonna have a ball with me or they were gonna rip me either way since one gas it food a little bit. But what about Ben aspirin? Been asking. Yeah. Now that do if I said something to him too. I seen him. I stop and ask him backstage. Right after my fight, okay interview. And I was like what's up? What's up? What's your problem? Won't you focus on making way around your business? And I started to tell him somewhere. He's there with his wife, and his our weather that wasn't he trying to his his interview. But I said something to really, yeah. Getting nobody because when what's been asking. What would you step into me for for what you're not a troll? You're not feign. You're fighting like you MAC, and I'm gonna UFC because more people know about me and my little four little fights. And you're not here wrestling everybody to death last twenty years in the wake, here's what are you? Step in me for. Wow, what is so I came to him the way I came you. I thought all serious and chess. One hundred seventy five pound, which one do you like do you think he crossed the line with his tweet? I don't even know what his most recent tweet was tweeting about me. How many tweets have you tweeted about me? Like, you're at the world's tweeting about me. What are you doing trying to help me here anyone's way in the world except Eubanks? He said what he said. I'd fight any welterweight in the world accepts ajar Eubanks because he's scared him because he not magazine. That's right seven I tell you what I fought in Aguirre hundred sixty three put on with that you think. So I'm nasty in the game, man. Nobody knows. Wow. Men bins been you know, I don't know what his problem is on his deal is like me step online. That's like me saying something to do like for what like what am I going to say something to one hundred eighty five hundred four right? Like, it's not my it's not my business. It's not my plane. I'm another fighter if anything other fighters when you the same class, and you notice potential to fight. Okay. Let's talk. Because we could actually sell our differences like me, and then like don't live differences outside the cave never gonna be able to actually step into the cage. So I said sometime after fight like what's up, right? So you're not gonna swing on me. So why are you doing well done? Okay. So did you talk today and weighed afterwards? I haven't spoken to date. No, really surprised. You said you went after him on the phone. So I figured he'd have something to say back to you. I thought he would. Ooh. Both that pounding. No, nothing. You didn't say anything to the winds when you guys know? But I I said sorry, I'm Osama man what he says he just not it wasn't really is live Windsor. Sure. Nothing in the back. I haven't literally haven't seen him. Okay. What about MC manner? I saw Mick at the winds. And in a sense, I said. Sorry to him to what he say. Same thing. Just gave me the. Yeah. I gotta give you prosper having a smile on your face. Right. All this a lot of people would come in head down offering excuses. No, man. Yeah. I miss the weight not been trying hard. You know, a lot of people like oh like as easy to sales. I sit around, you know, shoveling cookies now man house clean running in most people seem you on daily basis. My body has changed over the last nine months, I've gotten slimmer we just missed the market little bit the actual fight where you happy performance. I was happy. I was happy with it. Yeah. Why not? I mean, she's. She's on tough here. Big stage you've ever fought on Madison Square Garden. It's a long ways from Utica, right? That's why I'm smiling. So no, no complaints. No complaints. I felt like my different slipped. A little and I managed to go back and watch the commentary. No, people said, I was tired. I think it was a little bit more nervous. Yeah. To be honest. I mean, it's a huge stage. Yeah. It's like, you know, half the time. I'm like don't worry about it. Just another fighting have time like is medicine frigging Square Garden like when you get off the bus, and they put you in that infamous freight elevator elevator. Like oh. My God guys. Yeah. Chase. He's been in this elevator logo. Right. Oh, yeah. Beyond say visit. This elevator cO pitcher. So it started to kind of like. And I knew that this was important, especially after the mis did you recognize important. I had to win this garden to ahead to win by any means that Surrey doing this fight. Even if it wasn't the most flashy win or whatever. So I felt like, you know, in my mind really wanted to finish his fight. I think finish with a definitely stamp things. A little bit more for me, Barack shins toughen you certified I hit everything I had kicked and she got she proper backup. So if it was up to your next flight one twenty five. Probably really all that all over again. Let me I just feel like. Is what I been praying on it. And it's hard. I'm still only what forty eight hours you move. Oh, yeah. Less from the fight. I just want. He's built so bad bet. I'm so close to the flyweight Bill right there. Oh, and I feel like if I go to benway have any trouble with being I think I can bulk up to put on muscle masses to take it away. I think my speed will make up for the reach disadvantage. I'd have been weight, but probably have to start probably pretty close to the bottom and work my way over the deck up at a week. And I feel like I'm so close. I'm so close to the Bill at flyway. I'm just cloth. And you know, I'm thirty three I plan on fighting for quite a few more years, but it's not too many chances a fighter has to get for Bill. I seem to have quite a few. Calms my word. We'll come 'cause my time will come on one way or another. I'm determined that my time for a title shot will come in my time of getting that built after on my waist will come it will. But that's that's kind of what makes makes bridge. People is how how long you gonna stay in the grime before get what you want like I've been knocked down before. And I had a tough knock last year. I got another tough knock one way or another one thirty one twenty five forty five. I'm gonna get gonna get when these belts aerial. I'm figuring telephone next right now. I don't think so I'm not gonna even hold my breath. Right. And you're at peace with that. Yeah. I have to I have to be the new contract probably helps new contract comes a lot is. That's another reason why was import for me. Now, I can lease. I don't have to work like security or deliver. You were doing I was working security on the weekends and delivering food during the week. How recently up until I thought I was fighting Valentina come on. Yeah. For real. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With all ready UFC fight on your belt, two jobs. Not just one two. And now, you quit him. I quit them. When when they when when you called me for Valentino also struck out five weeks. Really? The ultimate fighter. I had a few bucks. And I just knew I made I told you I got guests. I think I had like ten fifteen thousand bucks and good now baby I'm fighting for title and get two hundred thousand and then when I did make the way I was back to nothing back to nothing. So that time between when I when when I was at the ultimate fighter up inside fall. And Murphy was pure struggle. Like I had to go back to like asking my dad to send me money every month. Wow. Yeah. Like like that. And then after Lauren Murphy, I kinda was able to get gas. But I was still in a ton of credit card debt. I was still you know, I still had owed a bunch of people the time that I I wasn't working in getting getting off the ultimate fighter. And so over the summer yet pick up another job. I got a shout out to JR's bar at jersey shorty hooked me up with it with a job. They're real good guys friends with Frankie. So I was working there not not very long, but they they knew what was up tone took real good care of me. Let me stay in a firehouse. I was a little bit behind on on my Rendell. And he he was he said it was cool. And then, you know, you know, door DeShaun those free hours door to deliver for door dasher. And wow, that's people recognize you a couple of times. Do you fight like take your food? Going back to that. No more. That's great. So so you think tell shop, but in the end you kinda went out because you don't have to go back to that these for now, I'm smiling there. Yeah. He's asking. Why aren't you more mad like I'm healthy? Like, I have a happy family like I can finally breathe now. I can like I know after this weekend. I had enough money that I don't like they in the first thing. I send my girls. We don't have to struggle. No more. Like, I'm not rich. I'm not Floyd not Connor. But right. I don't have to. I don't have to deliver pizzas deliver food. No more. Like we're to that point now after this weekend like. Chill that you can when you want to return how much of a break after everything taken long breaks. Let's return as possible. But obviously, the whole flyway thing we gotta see if we need a little bit more time to to see I'm still pretty small. This is actually the lowest I've blown back up after flyweight cut. So usually I cut the twenty five into the cage I'm back up to like one fifty. But the next morning after the cut I was only like one forty two. Okay. And so I came into into the cage like forty five forty seven. I was just wondering 'cause this past month has probably been a little bit, mentally exhausting right with everything. On a little bit of a break a little bit not much. What aren't taught who? Do you want? Thought about that. Okay. Toronto for the title fight. I would like to go. That would be snag. I'll leave before he ran off like leave Toronto will be a he'll move you sit there in the front. That's mile. I still I kept saying that that fight was going to be more is. Yes, perfect sleeping. I would love to. Yeah. Boring. Yes. I would do that far you hook it up. Now, I'm gonna tell them we were talking about it strong before, you know, for sure. His people off more for sure you're still claiming that you're the number one contender still. Yeah. Do you say look idea? I like it. I'm gonna say worst is if people are just don't tell mos- my, okay, then you're totally screwed. But the worst he'll and doesn't sort of embrace it. If you brace it, then people start to get a little confused. I kind of liked this person. I don't really wanna hate them. But if you sort of fight it, then you become even more hated. I think so I think you're playing perfectly. Thank you. Yeah. Keep it up. It just exactly how I feel. But thanks. I'm happy. We squash are are beef ever came in. I'm sorry didn't work out this past week. But you know, it's a weird thing. It's like, I think you would agree when you have a contract the professional thing is to make weight. But in a weird way, you're being professional in the way, you're handling it in the aftermath. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. So I think that takes a lot because you can offer every excuse under the sun, you can come in here and point fingers, but you're not doing that. You're owning up to it. And I think that that's that's that's commendable. Appreciate that trying to try and do my best just trying to get on these bills out here for my family. Appreciate that. Every time we have someone coming in. We have them sign our banner over there. You might do that for us. Of course. Okay. We've got some big dogs right over there is. Yeah. The markers right over there jar Eubanks team Eubanks right here. All right. It was it was a doubt for a second. But now, we're like the best of friends. It's yes. And and don't want to be on her bedside because I saw what it's like on her bedside. Let me tell you. It is not a pretty place. She is signing our banner going to charity one day star. We don't know which, but that's my that's my word. Thank you so much for coming in all the best to you. Yes. And good luck. In your next fighting congrats on this one despite everything that happened there. She has Eubanks stopping by one of the top contenders at one hundred twenty five pounds in the US's women's flyweight division. All right. What a day. Oh, yeah. Elite. No, you notice I didn't ask you to sign the ban. It's only at least. Least still here and just came in and said, I didn't sign your banner. Guess what? I didn't ask him to sign the panic because he's not a fighter thinks he's a fighter, but he's not a fighter. Anyhow that was interesting as he's about to like bargin, Jake then front of that door over there. Okay. 'cause I don't want. I don't need. No. I don't even know Ali smoke. Okay. Thank you, Jake. It's been a fun day. Wow. We still have the post show some gonna wrap this baby up matter moments. We're gonna take the post show in your quick we're going to talk to you, see two thirty. We're gonna talk a little Floyd. We're gonna talk you see Denver twenty fifth anniversary for the UFC. What else a lot of other things going on someone didn't drink their water? But for now, we shall say goodbye far as the live show. And I hope everyone enjoyed it. I hope you're all content. I hope it lived up to your standards and and your expectations. I had a fun day. There was certainly. A lot that happened today as my computer crashed in the middle of the interview, always fun. When you have the in studio guests always fun when it's after pay per view, always fun when you have one of the greatest of all time, Daniel Korea stopping by with all those belts. I would I would guess that was like two hundred pounds worth of gold right there. If not maybe more nine belts just chilling on his lap. That's unbelievable. Thank you so much to everyone who stopped by. Thank you so much to everyone who tuned in on this rainy Monday. My socks are a little drier. But still quite what if you could only see what's going on under my my my desk right here. No shoes. No shoes. Monday. Thanks so much. Have your Mendez? Congratulations on a big month on a successful month. Maybe his best month yet as a coach much Daniel cormier appreciate his timing. Congratulations once again to potential Fedor veer. Thank you very much Jared cannon year. Thank you, very much sleep coach, Israel, how to Sonya Elliot does ease. And of course suggest. Are you Bank? So you have C two thirty in the books next week. We'll be back talk about you. See Denver, and whatever craziness that goes on in the world of inmate. He missed anything. Check it out I tunes YouTube, Stitcher, all those places more back next week, save time and place.

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Cormier, Masvidal, Stephens, Joey Diaz, Edwards, Hermansson, Kampmann, more

"Today's episode of Area Hawaii's. MMA show contains explicit language that may not be suitable for all audiences listener discretion is advised gentlemen welcome to camp back in your life on this Monday September twenty third two thousand and nineteen plugging. Everyone America Honi hope opener doing well happy fall to you. Today is the first day of fall two thousand nineteen and what did you hear in beautiful and Exotic Bristol Connecticut. It's Balmy armie ninety degrees. I think it's like thirty three Celsius incredible. Where else would you rather be than right here right now. What an honor it is to be hosting this. Show for all of you on this great Monday afternoon about so much discuss coming up an entertaining event in Mexico City this past Saturday unfortunately it ended on a bit of Sour note an ugly note case. You missed it. Jeremy Stevens your Rodriguez main event. Everyone was looking forward to it. As the people's main event was the main event a lot not at stake it was Rodriguez his first time back in Mexico first time headlining a show in Mexico yet not and around four years and the fight lasts fifteen fifteen seconds accidental poke it seemed like Jeremy was trying very hard to fight through it her being the referee who has been criticised all a year long and often rightfully so I thought handled the situation very well. I thought he was on point. He was calm he was collected and Stevens just couldn't open his left eye and since then when people have been criticizing Stevenson calling him a coward this guy would like what forty or so fights on his pro record the guy who fights anyone anywhere anytime sometimes to his detriment and you're criticizing him. You're questioning his manhood. You're questioning his heart. It's a it's a shameful situation even more shameful is the fact that he was showered like buy beer by what who knows what was thrown at him. People were coming down from the top of the standards at that arena in Mexico City to get had a better look at him to throw things at him. I hope those people on this Monday afternoon Monday morning. I hope those people are embarrassed. I hope they are ashamed. I hope they are never allowed back at any. You have see event. I hope they're never allowed back to that arena because no athletes should be treated that way no athlete no fighter no entertainer no performer. Who are you to throw things. I know you're upset. Guess what there are. Eleven love and other great fights on that card. You got your money's worth all right. We know you're upset. The Guy's not a coward for people to throw. I'd never seen like that and we could split hairs. All we want to twenty nine I have I've never seen a seen at event. That was disgusting. That was classless. That was shameful. That was pitiful us any adjective you want. I was embarrassed for those people and I hope they're embarrassed are so themselves so Jeremy Stevens deserves better. Hopefully he's okay. Hopefully he's not seriously injured and hopefully we get that fight in the very near future. Hopefully they just run it back in a month author so and we can find out who's the better man. I was looking for to Jeremy. Stevens told us last week that he spent six weeks in Mexico. He's been thirty thousand dollars on this training camp. You Vicky wanted this fight. The last fifteen seconds you think he wanted to just get his show money. You think he was looking for a way out once he got to the cage. Come on use commonsense. Just completely idiotic takes takes. I see all day long enough of it. These are fighters or do you think they're afraid of. They do for a living think. They're afraid they're actually in the cage at this point. Oh on second thought I'd like a way out out come on. Let's do better so anyway that was disappointing but like I said the rest of the card was great. Esparza Grosso tremendous fight the return a brand Marino tremendous tremendous fight every now. Donna looked tremendous Stephen Peterson. Where did that come from these seventh spinning backs. Ko and you have see history. These are just some of the notable wins or results. I should say because there was a draw in their brand Marino which I'd like to see again against Oscar Askarov so there was a lot of course last week as well we had the UFC two forty four press conference Nathan Diaz for Hamas Waddell. A lot of people thought it was a lot of people thought it didn't live up to the hype. Well guess what I told you listened to the reporters on Wednesday. That was going to be just that they're both counterpunchers. When it comes to press conferences they're both the kind of guy who likes to sit back. Relax and sort of react to the other but in this case when you have two guys were sitting back and relaxing. You'RE NOT GONNA get a lot of fireworks so a lot of quotes but you got maswadeh. I'll looking like that. You got the great scene gene behind us with the bridge. You Got New York City. You got some questionable questions by media and I see a lot of people criticizing the media like Oh do better. Those people weren't real media. How about we criticize is the people who let those people in the US should do better as far as who they let into these things now in New York mid week I get it. There's not a lot of 'em media there it. It was what it was. Let's not get all crazy. It's going to be a great fight November second and later today. We're going to get a great interview from as well. Let me run out today's lineup so I'm getting all fired up. I'm looking forward to talking to our first guest of the day this one of my favorite lineups of the year and I sense the excitement from view I came into Bristol today fired up. I got a lot to say my beloved buffalo. Bills are three you know. What more can you like. I mean really Daniel. Cormie is going to join us in his first interview since his loss forty one. Is he going to keep on fighting. Is he going to fight steep amiach. How is he feeling these days a month or so later we'll find out from DC in his first interview. I sat down with House Thursday New York City for an interview about his past where he came from. I learned a lot about this man that I did not know before we'll run that entire interview on this show trust me. It's a different look a lot of interesting insight into the man they call game bread the pride of the three zero five Miami Cuba or yes anyway. Jack Hermansson is going to join us at two forty five he headlines lines the US's debut in Denmark this Saturday. What a great car. This is littered with names from top to bottom interesting fights interesting personalities Mark Madsen a Olympic silver medalist. It's going to make his debut. You've got the return of Nicholas Daulby Jack Shores on the card Landau Veneta MARCECA's. There's a lot to light from this card Saturday afternoon. It's headlined by that man who goes up against Jared Cananea the near. We'll talk to him. Joey Coco is going to join us. You're all very excited about this. He'll join us at around two twenty looking forward to catching up with him talking to him. He's a huge. MMA Fan a Superfan from Cuba and knows a lot about Maswadeh Romero all those guys but it's a big fan you know about him. It'd be grit mentality the the Church of what's happening now. Joe Rogan podcast all that stuff Joey Diaz making his debut on the program. We'll talk to Martin Kampman the face of Danish. MMA for all those years most wins as far as Danish fighters are concerned inside the octagon eleven wins in the UFC have talked to him and while he's going to be a big part of the show this Saturday we'll talk him Leon Edwards. Where does he factor into the whole scenario barrio. One seventy will catch up with rocky Edwards. Is he going to fight for the belt is he. GonNa Squeeze in there who the heck knows and Jeremy Stevens will join us at one twenty five talk about his eye and what happened in that. I mean event on Saturdays. We have our first guest. is she ready to go okay but first let us go to the facetime machine or skype machine. Oh facetime machine and talked to our our first guest of the day she had a massive win on Saturday against Alexa Grasso. A lot of people are mean to her as well but she deserved to win that fight to rounds to one great fight great performance from Carlos Bars. She's he's kind enough to join US right now from. I believe the airport in Mexico. Is that accurate Carla. Why appreciate you doing this very much. Congratulations on the win. How are you feeling physically less than forty eight hours later. I've been better but usually after every fight. I get banged up a little bit. my apple roll over on in pretty good would exactly happen to the elbow. Like what kind of injuries did you sustain. I didn't go and get x-rays or anything or I but it's already feeling a lot better. I've been doing it to me. I think maybe discount like a dislocation. I'm thinking and just kind of like right now. Nothing crazy I know looks pretty gnarly on the video though yeah pretty gnarly I think that's an understatement it was it was shocking. Lucky to watch. It reminded me. I don't know if you've ever saw Benson Henderson versus Donald Sharoni one when Benson was like Ben and that's where the name came from. That's what it reminded. Me Of. Arms Aren't supposed host a bend that way. Could you tell us what's going through your mind. When this is happening I mean I was. I knew it was suckered really titanic and I was just thinking like Oh my God like should I tap tap. I was like no no like I was like. Keep wanting twenty. Something move like trying. I wiggle out like try anything. You can't get out of this and you know. Fortunately I was able to spin out it was still even locked in a little bit after spun out but but you know fortunately how close were you to tapping late super it was it was obviously lots of joint. Have you ever felt anything like that before. Even practice roll like have you ever felt your arm ben like that and the feelings that come as a result no never I've never felt anything like that but in in the heat of the moment you know the adrenaline with the you know just in a fight you know I'm packing always have early but in a fight is one of the things like you know. He just Kinda got. Did she surprise you in the third round because in addition to that she really came on strong like I think there's a case to be made that that if this was a pride flag maybe she would want because they would score the end of the fight more so than the beginning of the fight. Did you think that she was gonna come on based on the first two rounds. Did you think she was is gonNA. Come on strong the third. I was really surprised I think she was down around you. You have to keep it. Keep close a couple of times but yeah I felt like I had them. You know for sure and she just came like a storm that third round to do think that they would score to draw. Did you think that she might have gone ten eight in the third. It's Kinda hard to tell when you're gonNa make you know like especially in your hometown. I never actually knocked down even though she can be pretty close. I was hoping you decisively. You won the first and second going into that third. You thought you had the first two down how I felt yeah but you know just being someone else's hometown you never know but like I felt that I decisively won the first two rounds you know not by the margin that she won the third round no not at all but I definitely felt like I won the first two. What is it like as an athlete. You fight your heart out your your arm. Ben's that way. You're in pain. You're getting you gain punched in the face of the third round. She's coming on strong. You do rounds you win a fight on enemy territory with the altitude all that stuff and then you have to do with booze you have to deal with people like disrespecting you and you're you're having your moment and you. We know that you're not the fan favorite in that case but it's almost to the point where like you almost have to apologize. What does that mean. What does that do for you. Afterwards kind of broke my heartbeat because I've always been respectful election. I respectfully leading up to the fate. I've always kind of had the Mexican fan base land families behind me and just hear them like stone negative and booing me and not letting me talk like other fellings. You know just kinda disrespected EH I. I didn't do anything wrong bad. It's one of the most annoying things about close fights in mixed martial arts situation where the fans may be upset with the judges but they take it out on you in the post fight interview right it makes no sense and then you're left to the deal with the heat and from what I understand. I know it wasn't as bad as Jeremy Stevens but the people throw things at you as well as you were leaving think slow down a little bit to take a couple pictures with people I usually do in. You know just say hi to people but they were turned. Rush me out of there on my way. Out Woman jumped a whole cup of beer on top of me. You know it was just it was really sad like just to experience something like probably one of the low points in my career. It was a really hard for so you're walking out and they poured beer on top of your head. Yeah it was like right before you go under the tunnel. Donald like some some guy like dunk like like one of the security was with me. Kenny trying to cover me and my walk me out in. Just you know some of the fans were just pretty ruthless. They were yelling things that you as well as you were walking back. Some of the fans were like being pool. ooh wanting to take pictures but some of them were just staying me things and bullying and like you said it's not my call you know and not that. I felt that I did win but you know they can't. They can't take it on the fighters because we're literally. They're just doing our job and when you have this kind of take away your joy like a big win like I said enemy territory like did not allow you to fully appreciate it. Enjoy the moment afterwards honestly when I went back to my locker room. I I just felt really bummed out. I almost felt like just wanting Friday and he died because which is a crazy feeling after a win. You know it's like I couldn't even enjoy just because I like literally just been attacked on a hard feeling feeling even though we get punched in the face every day now if it was just it was hard to take him. Did you see Alexa to the fight no she. She kinda rushed off a pretty fast after the decision that wind to shake your hand. You know shoes nothing but respectful. I've had a having gone to see her. I was just wondering because I've seen her say in the post fight scrummage on social media afterwards that she believes she won the fight which has every right to but I. I wonder if you feel like you're not getting the credit that you deserve for that performance. I can see how she feels like that. Especially when you have the crowds so hard behind you kind of you know like saying saying that the decision was bad but I think anyone who's kind of logical and actually knows about this word like knows I mean. I think she you know she was down to rally. No matter how much you dominate that's not enough sometimes how was the I was dealing with the altitude. How is it fighting over there. Dan Lewis arrest money even going up the stairs. It's kind of hard but I was training altitude not for a month. It's out in Mexico City for two weeks so I feel that I make some good adjustment but it definitely is hard to put that outfit. I'll a fight linke would for sure so considering that and also the fan reaction afterwards. Do you have any interest in fighting in Mexico ever again the most I definitely would love to fight on here because the fans are passionate and like I said a lot of Mexican band. Dan Support me but I definitely would not want to come out here in by local again. That's one hundred percent now just because because they're they're very much against you in that in that regard right definitely. I mean even if I thought anyone else thinking. I'd have a lot of word but it was just it's a rough one. Each fans back fighters still much amazing but it can also be a bad so that's now two wins in a row for you after the loss to titanic Suarez around a a year or so ago. Did you do anything. Did you do anything differently after that fight. Did you make any changes to get back on track here because that's what was your second loss in a row so it seemed like okay everyone talking malar l. or maybe we saw the best of Carlos bars a banal of sudden very impressive victories in my opinion. Did you change anything afterwards. Actually I'm really small for the divisions side chiefs. I started like I n I started like put on muscle. I mean a lot of adjustments to in my training like with my Jitsu. I think a lot of people saw that I lost fights off my on my left and I need that I mean it appoints. It may be comfortable. They're like just get comfortable being uncomfortable big by weaknesses strengths and I feel like I mean a lot of improvement it. Are you surprised that John Way lease the champion of your way class right now not super surprised because I saw her fight in person. I saw her face. You should torres. As and I was super impressed because I thought he should know she's. She's really good fighter. things just seemed to come out of nowhere. Just like Lego storm really doc doc like beyond. Any kind of sport is that you think you kinda nowhere. Boom is nowhere up and comer and do you suspect that she's going to go on a on a long run as champion or do you think she's more of a flash in the PAN armed with her performance day. I can definitely see or being camper wild but honestly when I when I just got josh when I was like shoot. Let me check or not doesn't first-round so you never know. When would you like if everything's Okay with your arm. When would you like like to return. I was named maybe like I'd love to get on that. December thirties card or maybe like early January or something yeah that that would be a deal for not hurt Tikolo bedtime off and actually have quantum all right here on vacation and then had to treaty. What are you doing Guatemala just chilling out or something in particular. I am climate volcano the Waigel Katito volcano some to spend the night up. There were totally in my arms my legs these are good too. It's still K- declined with your arm like that. I mean I think like I hopefully it's all made I have concerns. I mean I'm not trying to you but you know it. Just seems like you might have a hard time gripping things arpaio. Hopefully I will need to like crawl to be lake dog now but I mean I think I can make it work. I tend to be all right. I'm pretty please tell me you're going with someone like you're going with a friend or somebody. Who's going to help you yeah my boyfriend okay good. Please take care of Carlo are do you have concerns that it's like legit you know injured or you tore ligaments or anything like that what do you what are you feeling right now toward Laghman fine I mean I'm in. I'm not really much pain unless I'm like like bending are like super. Voters honestly kills a lot better than it did. So you know I I think I think it's GonNa be good okay and just curious. Why did you go check. Check it L. like why don't you go to the hospital now in Mexico because I think they're gonNA do an X. Ray and I mean in all reality likes and I'm not going to get a surgery injury like nine need and nothing that's really going to change. I not do that. I've been I've had many injuries over tuning this loudly cube seniors so just time by if my habits surgery that he did okay and last thing thing. I've heard some people say maybe it's time now for Karla rose rematch. Maybe this is the right. What are you thinking. Who Do you want next. You like that idea anything on your mind through all my fights recruiting had like twenty three fights including my tough fighting swing four. I've never heard a remand so I definitely wouldn't mind rematch with. Anyone are now all for you time. Send them on the audio that were of the one that I want but honestly I'm down for. Whoever I always he's having never turned down a rare so forever because you think she greets in your fight right because you think she Greece in your fight Right Claudia. How did you think that she was greasing. Oh yeah like I still don't know the details of it and obviously like she wouldn't facing seizing on but that was I. I've been wrestling for so long beating like I know when someone's like like sweaty and I know that feeling like my arms terms of displaced living right off. They're like obviously I regret. I wish I would have said something because it's just all here's C. Now if that were to happen I'm I would definitely remarkable and you know it's out there now. I don't think that was the case. It would be the case again by the way how's the cookie situation in Mexico. Did you have any good ones so far. I've only had one one little that's it yeah. I definitely need to grab some more. There's more like There's more like a different type E street bond funds will like different pastries and stuff are more popular popularized here all right well. The cookies are well deserved. Please be safe out there. Okay don't do anything crazy sie. You've got an injured arm. You were just integrate fight. Enjoy your vacation congratulations on a very impressive win congratulations on winning your first fight of the night bonus. I'm sure that helps a little bit. It is low and looking forward to the next run all right. Thank you very much. Carlos safe travels to you there. She is Carlos Bars. The first ever you have see women's Straw champion big win for her her first fight of the night bonus her second performance bonus a big fight for her on Saturday big performance for takedown landed against Alexa Grasso thirty three take downs landed overall in her. UFC clear that type for most in the AFC women's strawwweight division history that's courtesy of ESPN stats and Info Group Andrew Davis providing us with our information each and every week on the program so that was a big performance. That was a big win in the combing event in a matter of moments. We're going to be joined by Jeremy Stevens who competed of course in the main event as I said at at the top of the show an ugly scene afterwards it lasted just fifteen seconds and there was an eye poke. Maybe even two eye pokes. Her Dean gave Jeremy Stevens a lot of time to recover the doctors came in the I couldn't open it appeared to be spasm being they called it off off. The fans are very upset throwing things at the cage throwing things all over the place throwing things at Jeremy Stevens just completely he made a brief comment afterwards courtesy of Care Brian. This is what your year Rodriguez had to say at the post fight scrum about the ending the unfortunate ending to that main event. She's going to keep the benefit of the doubt your mysterious. He only only wants to leave with with with dodd easiest mind with that. I don't know say that no doubt he's minus is him the only him you know he's the only one who knows feels you know. I never been puking the I in a fight but I have had a really bad I really bought. I you know on the front five my I was completely close. Night couldn't see nothing but I was willing to keep on going. You know not everybody's the same Idaho he was feeling so complete benefit of the doubt to Jeremy Stevenson. Let's see what happened and he's just you WANNA. Call me in the eye. Let's back from her five weeks in two weeks. Whatever I'll just scratch you rose the one man so that was the scene. Those were the words Saturday Saturday night from both year Jeremy Stevens. UC The patch on Jeremy Stevens left eye and again. I understand why the fans were upset. That was the main event I understand. They wanted to see their guy. You're Rigas I made event in Mexico hadn't fought in ten months last time he fought the amazing elbow like there was a lot of excitement it was it was pretty well attended event. I get where they're coming from. You can't act like that and to be honest. I think a lot of that reaction did come as a result of your Rodriguez is-is reaction. I think he was very fired up and get understandably so hard for me to put myself in his shoes so much pent up aggression and emotion and and just like the nerves and all that stuff that energy before big fight you could see. He was emotional having family there. He was amped up. He was excited and then the whole thing lines last fifteen seconds. You don't have an outlet outlet. You'll have a way to get it all out. So you're fired up. You're upset you're heartbroken you're mad and so he was mad and I think the fans saw him react that way and then they reacted the way in which they did and you saw him kind of stepped up Michael Bis being and I think that brought him back to Earth there because this big did not flinch credit the him for doing that so certainly an ugly scene. I really appreciate he's shape Jeremy Stevens taking out some time. A lot has happened in his life in the last forty eight or so hours and there he is kind enough to join US via skype Jeremy. How are you doing it and most importantly. How are you feeling on this Monday afternoon. Awhile rested Scott home late last night wake up in the morning and grab a coffee and do the show. How is your feeling is good freak accident like what happened in their scratch. A It is what it is. What I understand you went to the hospital afterwards correct yeah correct they. They want right to the emergency room. Mining Eighty specialists like doc or anything like that yeah it is Russia rights. What did they say about the the the scratch in any kind of injury that you sustained had to scratches on my is just like Oh like a bruise. I guess scratch a bruise laceration what they called it so nothing nothing major nothing. Permanently damage is weird and so right now. Are you in pain or does it hurt to like being the sunlight. How does it feel. I haven't really been in the sunlight is Kinda. Keep him some ashamed. Shade Don is a big thing other than that I had a they patched up. I didn't want anything like that or anything also saying they patched you know if you go to the doctor your hand messed up of course in a cast told me keep the kids off like twenty four hours and I just took the patch off swastikas on and all so they replayed the sequence a million times. It looked like he actually hit you in the right eye and then in the left is well. Is that what happened. Were you actually poked in. Both is yeah so okay balls. you know when I went back by by right. I was staying pretty bad. You know there. There was scratch on on that is well in it is it is what it is. You know this this weird free thing. I just remember coming down like this like three stooges in his fingers in my face like this. Do you think he did that on purpose. No of course not you know I. I hope people nine for people to nuts on. I've been you know I've had a broken. Orbital is a bad acid. Donald CERRONE IAN was able to fight you know just or than things where you get you get glaze and it's an it's an eye boat. I mean like a paper cut man Shit. The Shit hurts. You know when you're is always very sensitive you know he he definitely to is. I've I've fought with a rogue normal like I said you know that was that was painful but I was able able to see a little bit of blurred vision but in this WanNa just this is crazy right. both is actually you know your hands philosophy closed. This one's anxiety in the fight. We didn't even get started. You know he won kick in you know next thing in overtime to exchange them which one hurt more the right of the left. You know it's the last one was a lot lot more painful. The rival scratched and I I know no like when I got there too and I noticed that when I was trying to read off them is were burning both both visor burning both my left eye when you're in that situation before they announced that the fight is off. You could tell like everyone's watching you right in there with her dean. The fight just started. The crowd is starting to lose his patients. What kind of pressure is that on you. I feel for the fire in that situation because everyone wants you to shake it off and be tough and just go back out there and fight because everyone paid to watch his main event and they want to see the payoff and you're in that moment where the entire Rina's just watching you and praying for you to get better. Do you feel that pressure. Are you trying to like force yourself to just open your eyes to get better and it's not an it's like this this battle internally with your body like please just open so I can see but also I can't see and I got all these people that are kind of like putting this pressure putting is I'm here. Are you feeling that struggle when you're in there no not at all you know at the moment of this like what the heck is really going on with my. Id Is it just wasn't relaxing thing. I remember the doctor confident until you're relaxed. Some like a wish I could do that. You know what I'm trying to break over here. Same thing you know I got hit. The nuts my last fight really hard. I had to take almost five five minutes to to Kinda Ariku on trying to recoup within the amount of time and in recovery which is unfortunate. It couldn't continue I get it you know I totally I totally get it able to see a fight. How did you feel the referee Herb Dean and the ringside physician. How did you feel they handled the situation. Her was a man who had offices telling me that you're like mcdonagh water over here you know he's like the doctors came in and he's like. I still have like amendment and a half of my cool lately recovered. Take the full five. I didn't know what what time it was because I couldn't even. I couldn't even see some senator waiting for the for the time inherited a hell of a job eighty dollars or one of the best amber frey is ever in the game on he. He truly was experienced. scores wanting free free. Thank we know great so they waved off the fight. I mean did you. Did you agree with it. In that moment like there was no way that you can continue. Let's they give you five minutes giving a little bit more time some water rinse off but you can't do that in a fly just right off ops heads. Let's see if he in seventeen twenty seconds something like that. You know it's it's weird brawl. You know I'm an unfortunate I I spent money can't money's money's money and can coach spend time away from their families up until the the greatest shave ever. You know you you know I everybody wants to fight. This fight needs to happen. You know that it's word shaving was just one of them. Frequently little things it's not wasn't on purpose. I know that on Duri fighter you know we need to run this back. We saw the footage of you leaving the cage being shielded by security in my opinion the ugliest one of the ugliest scenes that we've ever seen a UFC event. I mean you're just being pelted with things showered by beer. God knows what else people coming coming down throwing things at you. What is it like for you. In that moment you have any idea what's going on where you hit where you hurt by. Any of this felt pesos rose and definitely had some drinks before. I ended up in the back. You know this I expected that from the fans you know whether I win. There'd Herod Hostile Territory before Brazil. You know whether I would not allow by the worse you know. Is this again people pay. Their hard earned money to to watch a fight. I knew they were going to be rowdy. I do they're gonNA be on side. you know an unfortunate things. I say you have see the security they did. They did a great a job but I did hear about some. UFC staff that in some other people that ended up taking a few injuries in getting roughed up in her in all Carlos bars which this came out. She had a beer thrown on her. You know that that's kind of a little out of out of the norm. You know that that's that's not cool. That doesn't take away from the time that I had down out there in the people on us when I when I did my camp and and the way that I was treated I you know I don't really want to speak bat on that. You did a great job and security down there about keeping me safe and and I was just coming a situation and just because you said that you felt some pesos money being thrown at you coins yeah I mean there was some some hard you know what a beer in pesos or whatever they had. I don't know I I couldn't see man. Land was down to just fill things by coach. AUSE looking for me grabbed in right away. He was like we get out of here and he he he do resume. He said that thanks to comment on on this kind of hanging like damn. You don't like I get it. You Guys WanNa see main event. I wanted to fight you know a is my first no contest and I not even know why record by over fifty five I haven't had anything ever happened like this sucks. You know it's kind I felt bad felt terrible here. I am my company's Reliabi- made event. I perform time and time again and I didn't get a chance to fight. I totally get how the fans would be upset. You know and it's not my out of my control the way they react or what really goes on and you know thank God for my coach teammates. Everybody helped me out the UFC security sucks for some of the people. They ended up getting in an injured sure. Did you see any of his post fight reaction and if so how do you feel about how he handled it now. I haven't seen one of his I haven't seen anything travelling and I just took some time to debrief fuck. I've in the other day we we've got into it at the hotel on China come up and be cordial and he comes up and he's he's trying to talk shit came here to compete in fighting on so I had to shove him back across crossroads ELM and get into it with a little bit so I mean if you're GonNa talk about me. Let's let's talk about. Let's talk about running it back in the United States and like some of the three greatest American American places over here This'll like the other side. No we got Boston we got. MSG WE'VE GOT DC those in three great American places like you're GonNa Talk Audubon me. Let's let's fight. I came here to compete. You know he's in great shape. I'm in great shape. We we spent harder money like let's go came to fight. I came to compete lake a free thing what's fouts back. So where did this incident happened in the lobby and someone that you're saying that this wasn't like the Wayne's or anything. This was when you guys were away from the cameras bringing down my back shaking my bags win. Zingo gas and food and then we were taking often comes up like all awkward. Lincoln thumbs up like hey everything okay and I comes up like shaved my anthony. I'd be like a gentleman I get it and DOC shifting Roy. You know I'm I'm not from crotty. School brought on from the street. I'm here to compete flight. I'm here to kill you. You know so right away. My my mentality was backed up so I shoved him on his coaches. His Dad and his parents never talented. What will you know and I know assessor. Ask footage from them to release footing but they're not going to release it because you're going to cower. They're coming up trying to be gentlemen fortunately that that wasn't it and he wants to. He wants to talk and same thing. I I don't know the I air. He doesn't know me you know but I'm not like that. You know I don't I don't i WanNa Talk Shit. Especially after you live oak me. So is what it is. Let's let's let's continue this fight. You know let's let's go to the best history replaces in America and run this back. You know you've got to come to this side and and I wanna find okay so just because this was yesterday today. This is after the I poke that this happened. Wow okay. I thought you meant before the fight is after the flight so clearly bad blood is still there and you just mentioned Boston you mentioned. MSG mention December seventh Washington and Boston is in less than a month. So are you saying that you're okay to return like if they called you today you WanNa fight in three weeks. You're good. There's there's no issues that I can get cleared. My is fine. You know this is one of them. Free treats things happen so you know I I. I didn't know if he's going to be worse or unfortunately I come out on a on a good end. Thank God because is not to play with I'm the best shape over my life. I spent weeks away from from my family to you know I. I didn't come down there for one check. You know that's that's I spent sent that pretty much down down there and take care of this in the best shape over we can come back to the three greatest places in America it right back. Let's let's go if you're going to sit here and talk. Let's let's go back if not the hell out of my way. I'm I'm uncommon. I WANNA scrap. I WANNA move up this. This is my life. Life by career is revenue for years. have any of those talks about running. It back happened already to the best knowledge it got right back to Sean said ain't like I apologize for him off to him today and he's like man. You have nothing to be mad about robot young aw socks basing its feel a ton of emotions. You know I mean I don't WanNa. Go there for like that. I know what table pay especially down. People are hard working and you know they. They WanNa see me perform. I love to perform. I am a performer when the lights come on. I show up you know and it just I couldn't continue that night. You know and let's let's run back immediately texted Sean. We're trying to figure this out. The this candidate Harry is continuing to talk about me well. Let's let's talk about running back because if you're trying to duck and dodge in indep- you know like I'm right here. I'm in great shape. The thing nothing major happened thank God and was right back. Did Sean seem interested a lot. More people are GONNA be interested in this in this fight now. Yes bigger like a checkmate. Money's rise it up. You know now. There's more there's more heat. You're GonNa talk in runaway you know I never been cut from the US's from back data flights. You know remember that you know. I wrote them. How do you know like I am. I am I am. I cut a night folks dogs lie. It's a lot different so let's let's go. You know you're in great shape. You're you're at the time like let's let's not wasting any time. I'm still ready to go. I haven't I've only eat a little bit of food. I can still make wait this week actually so let's let's continue this considering that reputation Jeremy. What is it like to have people question your your are your integrity say that you quit that you look for a way out that you were scared. Have you seen any of this stuff and does it make you live it. Like how do you react to that considering. You're one of those guys people in the know no that anytime anywhere I mean you like you said you've never backed down from anything and now you have people online questioning you. That's they're limiting belief man. I I can't control what people would people think on half those more than ninety percents don't even fight. It's out of my concern you know. I don't worry about things that I can't control so I I'm not I'm not too worried about people say everything you know the funny thing Israel's Israel's everybody can talk on the Internet. No one's ever literally came to my face Jeremy Steven. You're quitter you suck. You're terrible or any of those negative things that anybody would whatever say you know fibro There's nothing there's nothing that you can do to Herbie Should I don't worry about last week. You told us you spent six weeks in Mexico. Leading up to the fight spent around thirty thousand dollars on this camp for all that to happen to be away from your family and just get fifteen seconds. It's like you don't get that that ability to release the energy. What is it like coming home after all this like without the W. without even being a fire without any bruises on you do feel unfulfilled fulfiled like could you explain the emotions as you came back home after being away from so long and not actually getting an opportunity to really fight. I have to WHO be away from home so did he sold it his coaches soda. My coaches SORTA like my family to come home with a one check buzz not how I feed my family family. Look at me like I'm. I'm in great shape right there. In the best shape of my life. I felt a well prepared so it's an empty failing to come home with one check is just. I can't afford that. You know a lot of money scam. I spent a lot of time for download tasks this like it never happened. It's like I just WanNa. Continue this and get this over. You know what I really WanNa. I really WANNA go up against his kid. compete with them disapprove beat his ass. There's nothing really going to change. I WANNA embarrasses versus kid on WanNa. Get up there and get get after like. Let's let's go you know one. Check socks go you know and I spent I spent a lot of money and time down there. It's it's empty feeling it must continue and must go on show must go on. Well happy to hear that you're okay that it wasn't serious and hopefully I agree with you. It makes all the sense of the world to run back so hopefully that happened sooner rather than later boss. I think any of those cards I've seen a lot of fans in Boston. Who wanted to seize a beat versus Calvin Cater. That fight got moved. I'd say want to put that combing event under Wiedeman and raise makes all the sense. I'm sure you don't care if it's main events or you. Just want to fight this guy at this point so it's stage brother Yes. That's realme back back to America. You know the situation. Reverse is more build up. It's like checkmate foresight like okay. You know let's let's let's it's the best thing that can happen now. We're running back in the stays in these satisfied. Ito's in the greatest states in America. There's three of them is that Boston is mentioned. There's MSG on a huge car art and there's DC. Maybe so maybe I could be the ones bringing the trump's in town so let's roll. Thank you for doing this Jeremy. I appreciate it very much glad to hear you're cocaine and hopefully you get that by. We get that fight sooner rather than later. Thanks so much all right. We'll talk to you soon. There is little heathen Jeremy Stevens unfortunate fortunate situation but here we are just finding out that they had a bit of an incident at the hotel on Sunday adding more fuel to that fire so we'll see if the UFC decides to run back all right. We've been talking about the state of the welterweight title. Pitcher for the last several weeks as of right now. Nothing really has changed. We know that Hori mazdas hospitals fighting Nathan yes. The whole thing is so crazy by voice just cracked Kobe coming tomorrow. Who's been are they going to fight. We don't know we know Leon. Edwards is ready to go. He's on quite the run so we thought we heard from Colby. Tomorrow's not available right now but Leon is available. Let's talk to him about the state of this way class and the whole mess surrounding the title picture Liane. Thank you very much for doing this. How are you my man. I'm good era. I'm doing great so I'm GonNa. Ask you a very broad question. I just mentioned might as well as as I mentioned Covington newsmen not fighting right now. The flights are booked. How'd you feel about what's going on at the top of your way class considering the streak that you're on considering how close you are to a title fight yet. It seems like everything's sort of at a stalemate here exactly the whole division. Now is in standby amber to go. I am I am how I'm pushing for five so that's a fire. Kobe happening while I'm hearing I'll go in December. So you're hearing that that's now dead that coming to new spin is a is a dead thing right now and they're ready to move on. I'M GONNA get guys now. Stalemate Cobb is asking for too much money or whatever isn't i. I put my name hat and told them I am ready to go. I feel I'm I'm on the second most win streak in division of I believe it is shot next to the best knowledge you putting that out there you reaching out to the understand extend. Your management has talked to them as well. Are they open to this or are they warming up to the idea of just skipping colby and going straight to you spoke spot them attain for November second in the formatting Saddam. Would you be ready. November second and I said yes and gave muscle. India's fight Mrs Again Saddam murder for December four in in Vegas the if qualified. I'm the next in line so I I believe I. I should be in December. You know it's been a couple of weeks now that nothing has happened. Are you surprised that they're waiting so long. It seems like they kind of put this this this issue on ice they went and did the Mazda fight. They're trying to do St Bay four December. They did Holloway but like this thing has kind of come to a screeching halt. Are you surprised price. They're giving Kobe such a long chance to come back to the table and not just moving on exactly I asked on doing the wave wave colby for for whatever reason more than deserted shot over Kobe off. He's told told not Nessin. That's it. You know what I mean. I I feel my Polish shop especially car. It was the last person to be it may so I've got one back on the back. Do you have any concern that you're being used as as sort of a leverage point here in the sense that they're saying Okay Leon is ready and on standby. You'd better get your act together because if not we're. GonNa skip you and go beyond that. There's really no true intention to give you that but because you have a legitimate streak because you're so close to the title shot you are a legitimate threat so you're not really really being considered but you're more being used. Does that cross your mind at all. Does that worry you not really. I don't fall out since you mentioned like I said I believe I deserve the next do nothing my power to get an extra vaccine me so I believe we'll we'll get next hour shop opened in December Camara except the fighting go from that to the best knowledge how close were you to getting the title fight right at MSG because I heard also that they were having issues with so called not being blamed for a lot of this but but he's coming to the table is one. It almost seems like they're working behind the scenes scenes in unison. Did you think you were close to getting it for the card. All those are the former team. So what are you ready for number. The second said absolutely isn't it was between Muscle Kamara. I thought is already thirty some really across to make a final okay. Do you feel like December fourteenth close November second. Yeah okay all right. Have they given you a timetable like you're. GonNa find out by this time. We're GONNA make a decision by this time. They give me a few weeks and if nothing goes often I I'm next in line waiting to hear back from the from the UCLA from Tamen to see what's happening. I'm staying in gem state ready. I could not give to also offer deserve taller shot. You've given them all content number. Also I'm ready to. I'm fit and healthy. I'm young. I want to see us a number to get into who would even make sense for a number one contender spot against you at this point. I don't know I don't know what it is. Liz Name Yeah. What do you think about that. Good at Optima cat like my game is my is my champion. This is what this is. All focused on is to be an accident me. I want to show if they do come to you and say okay. We're going to give it to is like Colby tomorrow. Is there a negotiation to be had or or are you ready to go like. Are you all good. You're everything's agree to you. Just need the date not the payment of money and is it okay. I'll I'll I won't be ready to go over whenever and not five trump changes now. You mentioned that you're in the gym. You're you're. You're staying fit. You're in shape. You're preparing. Is it hard. Is it hard to get motivated to go to the gym like when you don't really know the center may be delayed to January February like you don't really know what's going on. Is it hard to get motivated some points. I truly enjoy training. I enjoy OPTIMA Komo teammates angel on my on he's ready for fighting November and listen join the process like I said I'm I'm still young in the game a lot learning a Mulligan bedroom so these guys best trying to find out later on I feel I'll be not meeting them upon so I'm I join how much I know you. Don't love the the trash talk and the theatrics and the politics has all of this turned you off off even more like the fact that you're stuck in this situation. You're that close but you know it's it's the stalemate. Has it turned you off from the game even more so than the times we talked about it in the past Australian. What can I do. Ah Defeat other folks locking controlling of pushing otherwise this game job imagine I was like I said I believe in Myself Believe Madman. Let's get what I can. I'll get there. I know I'm one one that way. If not like I said I just now I will not enough. I I wouldn't talk show or display. I know you said that was on the table. I and that's obviously a big deal for any fighter to fight in that venue it ends up going to Mazda and Mazda. All you have the history with the incident backstage in March to you see what has become of him to see that. He's fighting for this title that they're created. You know they're creating out of the blue. How do you feel about this. Eric might give it to you. I believe if adrenaline mentally to start Cresa fate tall and baked well. Why would it be my name's Muslim. They will come. You will see when a day comment. That's not man but are you surprised. Is there making this belt that they're actually producing the B. M. F. title Jessa Journeyman era. I'm not joining the shit I am. GonNa fuck out most of the audience they want to do. I'll do I wanted to but just like because it's guys at one seventy do feel like that because historically the baddest man on the planet or the baddest is the champion right so the fact that another titles being created guys in that division. Do you feel like it almost waters downed the actual real title don't Arrow in turn time. No Dot means nothing that means you cannot tell your grandkids kids are at that means nothing my champion. I won't be able to champion. You can create as much as you want. That means nothing in longer is one thing though for the fighters created. I'm just wondering if you're surprised the UFC is making it the w the office yeah I go. I do my job. I get paid and I take my family and I said recently celebrated. Is your birthday correct. Yeah eight nine Aero gain out come on twenty eight wow. What did we do anything special. That's not really what really nothing nothing. Nothing I guess twenty eight is a milestone of any quite thirty thirty. It's twenty five is a part of my friends my family and really enjoy trying to just keep passing by the way I'm just curious. You know your brothers doing very well. Fabian as you mentioned he's fighting in November as you're going through all this does he. He ever tried to recruit you to say like hey. I don't have to deal with this stuff over with those other guys because he ever tried to do that. Sort of thing with you tried to come over different to say like you said is is is is so good Arrow. Oh He's like unbelievable. You know what I mean. That's a show wh showed wild wise like more on the biggest Asian like I said. The kid is amazing. Isn't you WANNA. Do you think he ends up better than you hope he does. I hope he does like I say can could we came from from from the mud. Arrow I hope he does. I didn't get too much money as a Canon does this is a Kenyan ago so in conclusion. You don't have a fight yet. You feel like it's close you come Russmann December Fourteenth Las Vegas. You WanNA fight for the belt. You want to get that rematch against him. You've earned it eight Nero here. The Guy Absolutely era I am I am no one else is me or Kamar longest industry guys on turn two records. Just keep winning losing like come on you cannot be the by this year on twenty record is nonsense. I believe I am next in London Kamar Kamar ready and by the way what do you make of Colby referring to Leon Scott. Did you hear that Social Media Doc is this Scott mentioned pitchers. Scott Africa coming from TV viewing of I fucking cove is ah he's a weird guy. Just different from different across from these people cannot even for myself a different life and different craft from all these people. I don't even know like I. I understand Marty fake news. I don't really get that one do you. Do you think he's just calling you a different name. I don't know what I don't get out of. The American air not give a shit is a Weirdo is a weird man is cannot even for all right well. We'll see how it plays out. Hopefully we figured I mean they just added the second title fight on Saturday so hopefully we we get some sort of your thoughts on that. Bill Yeah Bill arket ready all right. Well thank you for doing this Leon. I appreciate it and happy belated birthday. Hopefully for your sake you get that title fight sooner rather than later get Ero. I one hundred percent deserve a shot. I do think Kobe deserves it as well. I'll be one hundred percent honest with you. I think they've got an interesting scenario. I would like them them to make this fight sooner rather than later and I said that if they do like if they were GonNa make Kobe versus tomorrow at MSG. I want them to do versus Tyronn in the Co main in this before the whole thing came about as a number one contender fight because I do think tire and should be considered in that mix as well. I don't know what they're gonNA do now. I do think I will say the go ahead Tareq Pasha. I think what you feel really deserves. Our show no no. I say you versus the number one contender fight how you versus Woodley if they made Kobe resilient but I do think that Kobe all the blame is being directed him going both ways. Both guys aren't coming to the table so I feel like that's important to note. I'm curious if they do come to you and say all right. We'll give you the title shot. Will he even come to the table. We'll tomorrow even come to the table. That's what I fear for your sake. I believe I believe it will also I not I believe you will more call department. I'm here John. Okay well one. It should be no more than one more next is totally fine but one big fight and then you're there or next. That's what I I don't think you should be going on thirteen five winning. It never happened our leave. The company goes through the I five tall shot. Never how many flights do you have left on your deal anyway. I believe it's one on one or two so you're getting close yeah. I'm up the renegotiation and now for the right five fast before going into negotiations. Oh Wow so this is really important. I mean you could if you conceivably keep winning then leave if you want if you don't feel like you're getting that fight exactly okay. I'm about so the area and I I am. I going to hang around and be during. Is there a deal on the table an extension the negotiations. I want to be a champion. That's my that's my draymond. Our Yeah Okay all right interesting times for Leon Edwards. We'll see how this all plays out. Thank you for doing Leon. I appreciate it. Thank Eh all right. The Rocky Edwards interesting spot very interesting little nugget there as far as his contract is concerned. We'll see how it plays out colby. WHO's Mon- Liane Edwards a very interesting time at a hundred and seventy pounds. He certainly is ready and willing. I the very least one fight Woodley fight if they do end ended up going with Kobe versus one fight against Woodley. I think would make a lot of sense as of right now. There is no deal with Kobe. December fourteenth is still missing that one title fight that they'd like to add. There's been talk of these stupid. There's been talks of maybe a John Jones fight. Perhaps if the winner of Wiedeman Ray comes comes back quickly. It's all very much influx great to get his side of the story way back when our next guest was a top contender at one hundred and seventy pounds he has been in spots where he derailed a guy who was knocking on a title. Shot Door Jake Ellen Berger back in two thousand twelve had that close fight against Jake Shields Shield's around a year or so before when he was getting ready to fight that big fight against GSP at U. OF C. Twenty nine. He is the pride of Denmark. He is the the greatest fighter to ever come out of Denmark. Eleven wins most wins ever by Danish fighter in the history of the U. OF C. The next best only has one and we haven't talked in quite some time Martin the Hitman Kampman who this week I was thinking about as the UFC is returning to Denmark where I should say making its debut in Denmark. I thought why not catch up with the face of Danish. MMA Martin Kampman and there he is it's been awhile since we've talked to him. Martin so good to see you my man. How are you doing. You're you're. You're very good. It's been awhile since we last talked yeah. It's been a while so while it's been around three or four years since you walked away from the sport before we get to this weekend. What have you been doing over the last three or so years well right now. I just got out of a just got out of training here at the Great Danes in Denmark Mark. Now training great things may Jim got the guys out here standing there watching your show right now that they can face this on the side of the side of the window here so so. I'm a little sweaty no problem then you know if if a man out you know I'll jump in and still get some rounds in. I still get training unlike when I was still fighting but I still get a a slow. Get some training in you know it's enjoy training. Is this your own Jim. This is like a Jim and it's like an association to boy. The setup is different. You know there's not that many gyms. That's kind of being run as business. A lot of gyms like association. That's the what are you. GonNa get subsidized from the government to have sports. clubs for keeping people engaged in sports sports stuff like that but I'm the CO chair and we have great team great. Thanks Jim and and a lot of good guys most most amateur guys but we're we're working a autumn. Everybody's improving all the time and hopefully bringing out more guys internationally in is the gym in Copenhagen no now we're in Windsor okay. How far is that from Copenhagen two hour drive from from forever around Denmark. I would love to enforce. I'm not going to the event this weekend but one of these days that would be amazing. I'm wondering you retired relatively young and we we often see the in flight sports people retire and then the vent the eventually come back just this past week we found out that Rashad Evans is coming back. Have you ever had the itch to come back. Have you ever thought what about it. I'll get all the time all the time I really enjoy fighting you know and out here in Denmark. I also do a for some of the commentary concern for via play. Who has the broadcast you have see so I do some of the compensating in Danny so every time I watched the show compensate. I'm watching walking out of their chatterbox. Because I enjoy I enjoy I'm not just a competitor fan and of course Gingrich all the time but I already made a clear decision to not continue fighting and now I'm still enjoying training very much and I enjoy coaching. I enjoyed helping helping other people or get get better and improving his fighters. It'll this this week in Copenhagen. We have Michael Madsen that I'm coaching and he's he's competing on the on a big spot and all his you've you of Cebu and he say co main event in Denmark so it's a pretty big deal. He's so it's a pleasure to work with him. Yeah the two thousand sixteen silver medallist us as like a five time world's Greco Roman medalists these this is a start and he's he's really improved his game and he's GonNa. He's GonNa do really well. You've see how long have you been with him. For about two years serving okay maybe less maybe less speed we met known each other for a long time but there was a long period where he wasn't there what he was still committed to wrestling you know so it wouldn't he was allowed to some may from the wrestling association but he couldn't he still had to focus focus on wrestling when he had the your teen gem chip world championship all this stuff yet to do the restaurant camps and he wasn't allowed to do and maybe you made the switch to full-timer and MMA and stop wrestling completely and the after you really take leaps unbalanced because then he can focus on not just in in all you know kind of half ass a interests before you know now is focus on the task at hand and now right now. It's his age no and he's made the made to see his first. You've seen here in Copenhagen so yeah. He's he's a really driven and a talented and just he's just thought thought it's a big spot for him. As you mentioned he's not the Komeda then against Danilo Bello Ardo and he's a local guy and I'm wondering is he the only guy that you'll be cornering on this card or did you have anyone else. No all only guy unfortunately well. There's only two Danish guys under the Copenhagen that I I I WANNA. I want to complain a little bit too. I think could have put some more Danish guys in there. You know there's there's some Danish guys that could have made the shot. You know there's a mess. Brunell he was it was a already knew see he's. We're like seeing again Sir Bach also of course there's premier. He's already signed cheap but there's a lot of guys I would have hoped to see more Danish guy on on CNN but I'm happy to see mark of course because I'm coaching and also Nicholas debut was also really look good in his last so I'm really excited for you've seen Kobe Nicholas the other one who was released from the AFC now coming back great story overcoming depression and alcoholism. We spoke to him recently so I'm happy to but I agree with you. I thought there would be more Danish fighters for you when you were fighting and you were you know main eventing and you're a top contender. Did you ever try to push for this to happen happened. Like is there a part of you that says like man. I wish you guys would come when I was an active fighter that I could experience fighting in my home country. I never really pushed for it to be honest with because back then. It just didn't seem too realistic. It didn't seem is a very niche in Denmark and it's still small. It's smelly ino soccer and handball and but it's gotten a lot more mainstream attention especially hereafter. Mara got into the sport because he was you know he's a well the owner athlete merger small country so we don't have too many. Olympic medalist sports so mb an Olympic medalist and making the jumps in the doing great job in as brought more mainstream attention to choices for. I think it's definitely helping get a if more attention but also now in Denmark. Is Everything Holding Mason of course. It's grown a lot. You know when I when I was there Morgan fighting you know it was tough to get five or go to Sweden. It fights. I'd go to England Goto Russia. I travel a lot now. We just had a lot more easier to get an amateur fights here in Denmark. We we had located then this week. Here are Jim you know where that was tuned to get fights and and get experienced so it's growing stuff that growing. It's a lot since I started getting into Denmark and there's a lot of people it's done a great job helping in that progress and I'm sure you're responsible for a a lot of that because for the longest time you're the only only Danish fighter fighting in the AFC and certainly the most successful. How big of a deal is this event like you feel a lot of Buzz Frit. Have a lot of tickets been sold. What kind kinda since you get. I think a yeah I live in Copenhagen but I'm definitely a loan. Invent ordering and I feel there's definitely going a lot of bus. That's a lot of the mainstream mainstream media that's that's caught up on inviting stories an open contacted about it because of my history in the AFC so definitely I'm expecting hopefully sold out arena but if not then close to sold out arena I think is also is going to bring a lot of people from from surrounding countries. She'll because we have a lot of European fighters. That's under cars so we're going to get an older Jack Ham Manson on on uh on the main event you know he's a great guy two so Lebron come down from the Ole Sweden Sweden and and There's a lot of guys it's GonNa be. It's GonNa be cool that I'm looking forward to it. After he retired. We were called you coaching team. Alpha male and I used to live in Las Vegas as well. Why did you eventually decided to go back home and not stay in the United States. Was that always the plan or did something come up that brought you back home. No I always I enjoy living the US soon but I've had three kids in the US and when you get kids it's nice to also sometimes be closer to your your fam- family relatives and that was part of the recent moving back to Denmark in one of my kids experienced growing up up in the in Denmark and also. It's nice to be close to your you know grandparents to take care of released. Oh yes you know you have you. Have you have a kid as well so you know. Sometimes I get a little released absolutely yes. I have three as well and I don't live in the same country as my parents or my in laws so I know exactly what you're talking talking about. It's a nice luxury and so you went back home to start coaching. Is this what you do full-time now your coach at this great Dane School. I'm coach here and a lot of things also coach at our school for Physical Education Converts where I do martial-arts and of course her coach mark who sir fighting this this week area going fight card I have a web shop with my wife and I have a bunch of the different stuff that are this together making taking plenty of time but it's all it's all a big bond together smaller pieces that make uh-huh when you think back on your career what was your favorite moment favorite fight favorite performance favorite moment. Is there something that sticks out above. The rest are aw. I don't know if I have a favorite moment. You Know Fan. There's a tough spot but just by I fight winning in the AFC was that's the the big big deal for me because it came on the US notification to fight hoping to get five. Maybe on a smaller fight card and then I I. I got a fight on WJ which was trying to kind of compete with the seafood came in and spend a lot of money in eventually they didn't stick around. You've see bottom up. I got a tune to find. UFC was really a really big deal for me back then of course every fight. I'm thinking the fans so yeah but just getting my my feet get the door morning getting established in the AFC great experience my favorite Barnum in the J. Kellenberger when I thought was massive for you. I still believe you beat Jake Shields. What do you think do you agree man I. I don't know I think definitely did more damage but to be honest with you I was I was really disappointed. In my own performance I thought I fought aw an invite a smart fight you know I thought I could afford fought waste mortar so even though you know. Some people think that want it. I I'm mostly thinking about. I didn't do my best. I didn't find smart and making it too much of a groundfire where I could. You know sit a play. I was trying to submit them and playing into Jitsu game. I I just found around a little bit more but you make mistakes you learn from them and that's some of the stuff that I can carry on and show to the guys that I'm coaching here. The retains everything's and also to Marcus who's fighting this week and of course that fight against Diego Sanchez and Kentucky was phenomenal Carlos Condit fights. I mean you have had some classics. The did you ever sit back and watch them. Do you show your kids what what what they're old man. Did you get to educate them now and it's been a while since I watched any of my fights but really will amount that you maybe now that you reminded me. I'll have to go. I have to go check him out again. Showing my kids in all of this is eight so so does he have any sense because you bring into the gym sometimes and offerings Jim but there are dim warned soccer everything out here right they'll do wrestle wrestle with them and stuff like that and on scrambled fight a little bit but they've Judah for a little bit but they're not dividing regardless. I was who do they like Peter Schmeichel. Isn't he Danish. He's too old. You don't even know that he is Exon. Kessler smartly was good goalkeepers. Well there you go all right so mark mats and look up for him right. That's the guy this Saturday and another thing about him. We worth you've. CPI This Training Vegas came off for training camp. They do those strengthened explosiveness test out there yeah and he took the record to out of is allow for one fifty five when they won fifty five the most tested weight class. Really this is start. He's a he's just the different level athletes you know when you do the Olympics all wrestling doing your whole life he's and these starting pickup. Samson and and of course he's got solid wrestling but sure hands and getting heavy and again sharp and you guys were just in Kazakhstan right. Yeah we just came back from Kazakhstan because United Wrestling will will will championship wrestling was out there and he already committed to to doing some common. Sharon worked for him so he wanted to know honor that commitment even though he had to fight sit up so obviously best thing to the fight camera beaches to not go to Kazakhstan at this time when he wanted to It's the commitment so we went out with him. Took some good training out there. It was really good experience to of course all the wrestling there but also to get to enjoy Khazakstan. I bet wow all right well. I gotta say man. It's really great to catch what's up with you. Martin and I'm really happy for your success in that. You're still in the fight game and now producing talent that we're GONNA see on display this Saturday like I said when I thought of Denmark mark. I thought we need to catch up with Marin. Kevin and I'm happy that you're going to be there in some capacity and I'm also happy that you have in scratch that itch I respect greatly when a fighter walks way and just walks away and we see too often guys coming back and I understand why they come back but they look like shells of their former selves. I respect you for for ignoring that rich as much as possible and now training guys and giving back so keep it up man continued success good luck to mark this week and we'll be watching for sure. Thanks Earl always a pleasure to talk with you. Yes we'll talk to you soon. There is Martin Kampman stopping by great to talk to the Hitman longtime veteran top contenders had many any great victories over the likes of Jake Ellen Berger Taegu Alvez's Rick Story Palacio Jacob Volkmann Carlos Condit Rivera dramatic February's tells ladies I mean a WHO's who you also great poker players well so great to see him back and looking forward to mark Matson's debut this Saturday. This is a great card by the way sneaky good card flying under the radar. I said at the top some really good names Jack Hermansson against jarred cannon year. We'll talk to her Manson in a bit Mark Mattson as I mentioned Gilbert Burns against Nelson Elson Khalil Roundtree p Nicholas Dhabi John Phillips CR Bahadur Asada macy's Angelina Landsberg Mark Casey Against Landover Jack Shore making his debut Brand Davis. There's a lot to like all right. There's some of the lineup before we move on to our next. Let me tell you about our good friends over at vivid seats by the way Jake. I gave some PRA- for this last week on the importers which I know you all love that you can download each and every week on the same feed that you download at this show. I mean you use the same song every week. I mean from what I understand. There's a very extensive library of songs at ESPN. Perhaps we could switch it up. What do you say pick this music. Yeah I picked it back in June of two thousand eighteen. I mean I didn't say the yet to stick to it. I mean let's switch it up. Perhaps this week we're going to Denmark. Denmark play some Danish music next week. We're going to Australia place. Let's get in the mood here. You know what I'm saying. I mean it would be nice to see you. Flex your creative muscles. You certainly like to flexor muscles. Just in general flexible created bustles anyway before move along to our highly anticipated next guest. Let me tell you about our good friends over at vivid seats. You know I love them. They support us us. We support them. 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Jose mas well coming up we have Daniel Cormier in his first interview since his loss at UFC two forty one talked to Leeann Edwards. Jeremy Stevens Got Jack Hermansson Anson when I put out the lineup though about this particular week all the comments were about our next guest and he's not even a fighter but you love him and and to be honest. It's long overdue that we have this man on the program. He is a comedian. He is a podcast. He's an actor. He's a host you know him from the church. Which of what's happening. Now you know from the job experience you know him. As the incomparable the often imitated never duplicated the pride of Bergen County the pride pride of Cuba the pride of Colorado the price of a lot of things the Great Joey Coco Diaz on the program Joey. How are you my man good my friend how are you. I'm doing great. Wow what a response to you being on the program people flipping out people so excited. I never seen anything like this before you our beloved. Did you know this. I I hear it. I hear it but now is this mike well. I feel like you're being a little humble. Well like I said it's that's right and I appreciate you downloading skype. Is this your first time doing a skype interview before Yup just for me. It's free you will joe. You're great man thank you. I appreciate that the skype is kind of going in and out of your way. I want to hear this from you. Should we reconnect with Joey because this is going in and out. What should we do okay Joe. We're going to reconnect with you. Stand by okay because the skype is going in and out there and I wanNA. I WANNA get joey. You know these days as the facetime has been a lot better than the skype if I'm being honest. I'm not trying to pit the two between each other but I'm just saying. It's been a lot better corporate. Jake tells me I can't do it. There's there's a whole big problem back. It's mad at me. It's a whole do a whole to do. All right. We're going to reconnect joy is a lot of you very excited to hear from him. After Joey Diaz we're GonNa talk to the Great Jack Hermansson who of course meets jared cannon year this Saturday in the main event of that show in Copenhagen after that we'll hear from Sudan sat down with him on Thursday before the press conference in New York at the get up studios in these South Street seaport in Lower Manhattan and then we shall talk to Daniel Cormie as well in his first interview since UFC two forty one so I'm looking forward to all of that also in addition to the Denmark hard by the way. It's a loaded weekend of action. We've got the bell tour doubleheader on Friday in Dublin Bell Tower Europe. It's one of those weird ones where it's like. A bell toured Europe and also bill twenty seven. I don't really understand how they break this down but but Benson Henderson versus myles jury is I think the headliner it's a little confusing but it's in Dublin. There's a lot of local guys the you all heard from James Gallagher is on the card or I should say James Gallaher. His opponent had to pull out last this week but they were able to find him a replacement and then that's on Friday but then on Saturday it's the conclusion of the first round of the Bell Tower Featherweight Grand Prix built or to twenty-eight Patricia pit bull against one or two letter Leona machida against Giger Masasi to Darren Caldwell gets Henry Corrales. That's a great fight. I saw Rogers against Daniel Vital Georgie honey and against Jay McKee and AJ McKee is the son of Antonio Mckee and his dad. It is fighting on the prelims father son on the same card. Isn't that insane that hasn't happened very often. ANTONIO MCKEE LEGEND OF THE GAME now trainer coming back fighting on the prelims on the same card as Sun Twenty eight six thousand two Antonio Mckee. Aj exile also on that card who else does a bunch of names there the android go sean bunch. That's interesting one so that's Saturday in Inglewood up to no good good California and then Friday is the to twenty-seven what else is on this Belto Europe card Richard Keegan he league gets Michael Vana page of course Peter quickly returning that card has kind of been ravaged by a all kinds of injuries and cancellation and so they've had to cobble it together and then the twenty-seven card has keefer crosby on it will flurry France Mambo Bowl and then much local guys on the undercard as well also in addition to all of that cage warriors. Is this weekend cage warriors one. Oh seven seven. There's also an elephant card. Elephants future somewhat in limbo after the sale of access TV but they are putting another card been talking to some people about that as well so a lot of a ton of Emma may going on this weekend. It never ends. It never stops what's going on with my guy. What's going on Wednesday. Okay what's happening on Wednesday. You said Okay you want me to promote area around the bad guy to have anything to there. It is right there all right everyone say I on the bad guy and ESPN plus on the platform that we built shale. Ni- with our own hands are far shoulders by the way how `bout NFL primetime getting on ESPN plus these days isn't that incredible. I actually go out and watch it. ESPN PLUS is the place to be so yes every Wednesday show some love Jalen. I doing our show area on the bad guy. It's tremendous as Joey has is likes to say it comes out every Wednesday at around six thirty seven. PM also do mayor reporters everyone say. What did you say corporate jake no problem? I don't I never know when you're talking to me. If this is for the world to hear or should I relay this message also let you know by the way that next week we are off because it's Russia Russia. It's the Jewish New Year and so last year we did a show on the Jewish. New Year was on a Monday again. I don't know how it happened. Two years in a row. Oh and I felt horribly guilty but I was new at. ESPN and I felt like I couldn't miss it but I said to corporate Jacob New York Rick at the time back when they were friends and working together that I will never do this again because that's that's one of the holiest days for for people so I decided that this week will be obsolete off next week will return the following week all right. I'm told facetime. The always reliable is working much better than skype. Let's see it. Joey Dee as are you there my man Joey. Can you hear me okay okay. Let's see if this is better where you doing this from a cave over there in California. What's going on our house our WHOA fire. It's all good my man well. I appreciate your saying something. You're you're sharing with prey so I didn't WanNa miss that I said that I love what you do that you've been doing this is day. One on on your own you as you have gone and got the best in the business. I watch your show. Whatever I can appreciate that and I know no. You've you've had my back as well so that means a lot coming from you joy. When did you first fall in love with them and may we we c talking about all the time but what I ju- you to the sport and this is so but Chris Lebanon really why that one it. It just happened to come on as I was watching. TV and I never saw anything like that before in my life and I dug into it now I love it. Was this before you were friends with Joe or after I was friends. We're GONNA pretend in years and I would hear about this nonsense. I grew up on Bruce Lee and karate schools. I knew nothing about you. Jitsu and not in so M Andy Eddie they'd be like whatever you know because I saw the first couple of fights the guys looked like me like they were begging out of shape and I thought it was barroom brawling but then once I saw have to send started watching other fights. I I became a way everybody else and I've seen clips. I've seen the gifts of you in the karate guy. Is that legit like. Did you really practice karate back in the day from seven to sixteen and from twenty five to about thirty okay. Why did you stop at thirty now because I got into drugs and comedy fair enough and have you had hours. I go ahead now. I go to tie twice a week. I'm fifty six. I left and I try to get a role in once a week on the Lord's what's Day wow so. You're very active so yeah. I gotTa roll brother. I gotta be top of it. You have a six year old. Is that your only child. That's all you need is one look at the budget. I like it so you had a kid at fifty years old. Well done something guys fire their wives look the receptionist and get a quote that not many I thirteen years. I knocked my wife up okay and do you let your son watch your comedy stuff and listen to your podcast or not quite yet by the books. Excuse me no curving the House no alcohol in the House. She goes to tie. I wanted to have a different childhood. I hadn't New York City running around like a savage average so we're out here in California. Everything's very nice. No drama and I like it that way. We say no cursing at the House. I mean you're sort of infamous for your cursing. It's sort of second every third word on your shows his at home nothing nothing laughing because it's it's servicable. Whatever that word is irreversible. I learned how to curse at my mother's bar. When I was her age you know and then being an immigrant you come white kids. Don't show you the right words they show you curse words first and then they show you the George Washington the name but usually teacher curse words so it stuck and here I am fifty six years later and so. Is this how you know so much. I've heard you you talk about the immigrant mentality. This is where you learned it from. Absolutely it's a immigration. Tally is like this. You have to be better. Your parents raised you to be you have to be better than the white kids and at the same time with this pressure at the house you have this security. You don't know the language people are looking at you know so that's how I have to say my favorite clip of yours like I watch time and again just to put myself in a good mood. Is You Joe Watching Eddie Alvarez Against Rda that to me is the all time great. That's the best one by far that moment of you just getting all fired up and talking about Philadelphia whereas Connor McGregor now I mean that was just incredible that passion that excitement excitement. You know what I'm talking about. Isn't it amazing. I love her. I Love I love and I love the direction. You have seized on back there again. We've had a couple of good cards last couple cards. No drama great sportsmanship and I applaud Dana for November second for that belt. I think it's a great idea. It's GonNa be a great fight and it's it's a fight for the fans. Finally it's not tape of us and it's not about throwing things at buses. If you're a fan anime you're gonNA. Watch this so I'm excited about this a fight up. I feel like you really don't like honor the Uber. You bring them up you into subtly. Why don't you like this man. I love Conor McGregor. I Love Gregor. Ah love his range. I loved his personality. I'm you know Irish and Cuban a very close. We got close during the Battle of the Boyne a sixteen hundreds as there was a war and all the Irish went to Cuba because it was a Catholic country. I love my wife is Irish. I Love Everything about Colin Gregor. I think that when he got into name it changed a little bit too much and now back to leverage acting acting Kim and Rasi through offer a bit but now we're back on even ground again and I hope it comes back and listen great fights waiting for colonists so no I have nothing against. I just didn't like the antics that were on for a long time but now back home. He knew it's interesting when you go back and watch that clip of you reacting to win. I don't know if you remember this is kind of Gregor now and you kind of predicted that if he ran into Eddie he would get smoked of course. We know what happened so that it's kind of. It's kind of crazy to watch that clip several years later. That must have been shocking to you. You seem very convinced that Eddie would steamroll enroll him. I thought either at your whatever would stain roll him but like I said when you fight conor it's it's half as on so much mental yeah when you go into the when you go into the APP we got your head. Space has to be in a really replace. You can't get intimidated. You can't let the height get in there and I think that's what happened but I think that's what happened to a lot of his early. Fighters Haters. They let connor massively. There's that's Kinda. Does the best is get into your head but that could work with you or against you in my neighbor next call listen on your way that works with you most of the time but on the other and it works against against you sometimes but not Kinda fighter and I love what he's done for the USC but there's been we've all had moments. I love John. Jones don't hate what's happened with him but I'm a tremendous fan of John Jones and a dear friend so your dear friend of John Jones I love with all my heart comes to Mexico. He comes to the shows. I knew him before he had. The title are used to call them. Fear of a black landed obligate every go when you see John J-o-h-n just call them fear of a black planet got it John Jokes okay. You guys just chill out together. I've never seen a map the plights okay I'm spoke for him and then I went to the club and Albuquerque last year and he showed up on Friday night looking tremendous and we spoke and I gave him a hug and he he's a gentleman this we also gone down to Jackson's camp and hello my next venture is at and T. to say hello okay okay you know of course we know at at at. At there's a very proud Cuban fighter there you are of Cuban descent. What is it like for you to see see what is become of Mazda skies exploded all of a sudden going through this year I mean he was just a good fighter the hardcore neum now he's a mainstream star when loves them. Cuban Jesus. He's got the the beard. He's got the scarface outfit. What do you make of what's happened to to Hora Jorges coming through zone. The Prime Ammann's prime is between twenty six thirty to win somewhere along that route you find yourself as a man and as a fighter and when they both both meat or whatever you are as an announcer comic at that point met. George is a different person when he makes me very proud. I was a fan of George fifteen years ago because tournament is corn amendment to be yelling in Spanish pitch methenolone guy at Paso that means smack them in the face and I would sit there at home howland saint myself. You can't smack people in the face it's USA. That's been tally of the Cuban. He would say mentally guy at that so that's why he talked how you know. I chill means that when you say talk that means to touch somebody and that's lose corner and I'd be laughing. Nobody else catch it and that's how I reached out to him. In power and we became friends live and would it be safe to say or safe to assume that you're rooting for him on November the second I know I know you like Nathan as well. I got I got a big problem here. From Spain Yup my cousins has decided to jump off in Cuba but nick his family said we're going to go a little farther and they went to Mexico and then they shot up wherever I live from nine zero nine up there so nate. Diaz is the man I I bet late against Canada. I talking just because his Jitsu skills and I know what it takes to digital black belt and I fall unloved. I've never ever met nate never met nate my life. I was very proud to seek that he had lowering Russ against this. It's he looked great and I think like I said this to me is the best fighter the last five years because it's the fans. It's not about paper view. It's not about drome bottles. It's just about the fans and at both acting like gentlemen I saw a picture tonight out at one eighty two afterward and I am this fight as a as a friend and as a gambler. I'm not gonNA got a better. I'm just GonNa sit watch and enjoy like USC fan. Do you bet on a lot of fights. I bet on the ones I know I can win. Yeah okay all right. When's the last time they won. The biggest one was laid. I had frankie the against years ago against one of the guy what he fought the three times. I I better rate. Remain the second fired or something I took my wife. Joe gave us tickets and was the last time I put one and I don't remember okay but I usually don't Beckham about 'cause everybody's focused on the main more than these dating. Nobody has a crystal ball as usually good fighting the prelims or the undercard that you could make some money on so if there's something I really like I go after it but I'm such a fan that I wouldn't WanNa ruin it for yourself like I did when I was a kid football and I ruined if the myself with not Europe Street I WANNA watch it as a fan so I'd rather not waste money on it. Yeah you mentioned the fight. You love the title. Is there a part of view. Are you like an old school guy where you're like. They're making a fake title here this. You know this this is. WWe Like does that bother you or your all in on this you love it not at all. This is not wwe. I think this is brilliant of the sport. I think every once in a while two guys it doesn't mean everything about this. Let's just get guys that WANNA battle it out. I mean I don't WanNa see. Shawn beat up the Russian. Check my heart began. Nobody wants to see that right but I wouldn't mind seeing a couple of different. You know let's take the chance Columbus dead you know maybe Feed Bay drop down to something and John Jones. Go up a little bit and it doesn't mean nothing to your rankings. I would like to mix it up a little bit. Yeah you love Steep Pitch Steel. Pick which I love St Bela Frankie Edgar Cowboy you know I can see that the next fight McGregor the easy option for the UFC would be either. Somebody like cowboy was had to fight losing losing skid and he looks like an easy prey or Frankie Edgar. Both of those guys got a good fight left him. You know poconos is is or you know when you fight McGregor. You'd rise for Kinda McGregor yeah. Do you get knocked out because kind of touchy with that left or you could take into five rounds or something but I'm also excited for. Communists next move because it's gotta be Dustin Okay Kuei Justin or just pick out one fifty five to one fifty five individualist the NFC east ild day you had the skins you had the eagles and you had the giants and the cowboys and Ukraine. Somebody didn't pull a Lotta Gun. You pray that somebody didn't pull out a gun like where's John Riggins. He might like this is what one fifty eighty five is become. Just engages exciting will wait to see what could who is gonNA. Do you know Dustin Corey. Whoever Dustin Ankori fights next expect brain damage your this fans expect the ball learns language. I feel bad for whoever fights Dustin Poirier next I love this. That'll I'm very excited for the one fifty five division. I think John Jones is cemented for five steep as back what I like to see him and Daniel. Maybe maybe not AH. Maybe maybe I'm a big fan of Daniels and I'm a big fan of St pay so maybe maybe not one eighty five. I'm excited for my man whitaker when he comes back so the USCCA exciting again. I'm excited. I rented rocked persona how to pay okay for you even though I had to pay for ESPN five I like it. I'm in I don't care. You're in all right. We appreciate Your Business. Thank you it has has to be. It has to be against bill right none of this other stuff. It has to be Ferguson Vive next right. Well listen giving me. I WanNa see me like three other Fan Habib against the cooling. Yes that's the obvious choice. DSP's raising his hand. I hear rumors about Gig speed you that again. That is debt Let's give that up. I if nobody wants to see that yet we we. WanNa see the Kuwaiti about against B. But could defiant. I'm a comic. I don't make money at home. Oh cracking jokes in the mirror right so he's got to fight somebody. He's a fighter butch. Trucks could always push ups as we speak so if you're at the USC by the way what did you make of Moslem is with US outfit at the press conference. Did you see that Tony Montana outfit that he was sporting. Listen Man. He's like out. Lido's way in the beginning doing what he said. Oh I'm Katherine back. He's he's on fire these days then he shows up in Mexico with a Sombrero and the the bullets. Did you see that as well. The guy is just using our cheese mall right now yes and hit an emanate a donor great gentleman nobly stainless to each other and when you happy happy when you're smiling that's local Cooley. He's in there Mambo on the mock arena. This is tapping you. ABC's again you know and I'll have to clinch might festival when I'm watching them sweating so I'm very excited about the next couple of months to see what happens the back do. I WANNA see speak to be watch it but we all rather seek to be in Kuwait and get this. Who's WHO's your favorite of all time. Favorite side of all time to guys like cried. I saw get knocked out a couple of times as chocolate del Wow. I don't like to see I don't like to see I love this so much. I don't like to see him. Fight live. When my friends fight live. I cannot go to the fight because if you think what happened was bad I will throw chairs. I will go out. Get a heart attack right at the garden at one of my friends. You know I can't do it when I'm attack somebody like that. I don't WanNa go to bites. I'd rather see it on TV because if he does get it my New York City Cuban Jersey Santa Rita sex scene on line. One fat leg trying to climb over. The Dude is trying to push me back. I can't go see my friends fight so by the way can ask. Why do they call you mad flavor Flav. That's the name biggie smalls gaming. Did he really give you that. No group amazing. How much do you enjoy podcasting casting you love it. You seem like you have a great time. You're one with action. Bronson was a great one one of my favorites. We had him on the show last week as well. I love hearing you guys write about food. Yes snow. I love podcasting. I love what it's become. I don't love that. Take hold things against you that you say that because it's not I'm not being judged judge. I'm not being you know that work. That's why the five cats because I enjoy being free talk about whatever you know but besides that I love podcasting. It keeps you work. It keeps your heart out there. It's like riding. The subway in New York should tune which what's really going on. You know so I you talk to the people and so you're doing that. You're doing quite often any any comedy specials coming up any movies coming up. We'll see more of you. You know what man when it comes to comedy specials. I'm no good. I'm no good uptake. I'm better live live on the savage. When I'm alive and I got I got the PODCAST will do. I've been working on a one man. Show at the comedy store Los Angeles. I'm rich ICAGO this weekend at the Chicago data Friday night so I'm always busy. I'm always doing something plus. I got the six year old. I got the PTA meeting Wednesday night. You know all that stuff. You show up to those things. Do People know what you do in your in your your day job. I look very gluten free community over here. They looked at me and they think they think Donmar John God his nephew. They don't say much. Let me go prepared to these things when I go. Some parents average speak to me. Some parents look at me but I don't care I might I'm trying to try to raise it so it doesn't matter what they eh you know coincidentally. John Gotti's nephew John Guiding the third is is a pro fighter. Did you know that he's doing quite well. He is yeah he's undefeated. He's good so they just think of that. Yeah who punched against just going reads on me. I'm going down getting beat up one way or another home and by the way when I was talking to action. He told me like when he's performing. He's in the back watching the fights. He's doing everything like he surrounds everything around like he the fights it's our thing and then he works around to do the same like when you're out on the road and you know there's a big fight. Are you watching them as well backstage in your in your dressing room all that stuff. I try everything anything I can't you know with my luck. I always get booked and then the big fight comes on on that day. Obviously I have family out out there that I want to go see on the roads so I'll do anything I can watch the fight at the club. I'll call a week before walk out. Pay For it myself. How do whatever I can't always. There's always a dishwasher away to was somebody at the event. It's a fan by myself watching together. I don't like watching a fight after it's on right yeah no because what happens so ways yeah. I can't well joy. I gotta say this has been a huge honor for me. I know you're very much in demand and you speak with such passion and I think you represent the fan when you speak about the sport and the fights and your excitement is contagious. It's really just a lot of fun to see you react to it into talk about in your podcast is very entertaining. I mean I was really blown away. I know you're very famous. I know you're very popular but to see all these fans so excited for you to be on the program really warm my heart so thank you so much for doing this and hopefully we can do it again soon. I wish you nothing but the best to your family. Keep doing your thing my man and continued success you you and your family. It's essential my love. I will thank thank you joey. Stay black brother are my man all right Salaam Aleikum. Thank you very much. There is Joey Joey. Coco says has what a legend a living legend joining us on the program. That was a lot of fun. I appreciate his time busy guy but definitely check out his podcast if you've never heard it it's the the Church of what's happening now. His twitter feed is hilarious as well add. Matt Flavor gets you a very very pumped up for the day very excited for the day so keep it up and check mighties in Chicago this weekend as well and I think he does a phenomenal job with his stand up so well done joey. Thank you very much for joining us okay. Let's go back to the Copenhagen Hagan Card this weekend. The main event jared cannon near Jack Hermansen huge fight in one hundred and eighty five pound division. Let's say hello now to the joker for himself. One of the breakout stars of Twenty Nine Thousand Nine Jack the joker Hermansson. I should say jacker. You are great. Thank you for having me when you have you have to emphasize her man right not just Herman. It's Hermansson exactly okay. So where are you right now jack a aw home here in Oslo. Norway's also know when you go to Denmark at tomorrow tomorrow. This was the one you wanted right. You just wanted to fight on this card. You've been talking talking about this for quite some time. I know you wanted the card. What about the opponent. What did you think when they gave you jared Kenan near. He wasn't my pick. You know right so hard artes together. Kelvin guests and I know that the UC really tried to to engage him and we really make him to take take the five bucks he. He said he's not ready for this date so he could make it happen so I just asked who's next in line and they said the Jerry and I said all right. I WANNA be fighting here here. At home. I WANNA be fighting in my and backyard and the end to be the main invent the Copenhagen so yeah I got to roll with it and the consideration of both for sure I could have been happier with open a were you aware of what jared has been doing has been somewhat on your radar eight are once you were offered him. Did you have to go look them up. On New who I knew that he he was coming from behind you know with a lot of hype than the greater middleweight so our suspecting that they were gonNA offer me to the best your knowledge did they actually go to Kelvin offering from this and he said no yep I I spoke briefly over the Internet with Kelvin as well and and he said that he didn't want this day. T- wanted the five they wanted later this year not dissident okay so you actually deemed with him or something you we. It was an open conversations throat something you know. I I really try to you know. Call him out. It's a little bit and it and commented on some post and so it was not really conversation but it was clear that he wanted to five bucks. They're not not on this date. Okay and for you fighting and company. I mean you have ties to Sweden ties to Norway. Obviously why did it mean so so much to to fight in Denmark just to be close at home almost every fight. I need to travel far and the it's the enemy territory as is a nice feeling to to to be fighting close to home where a friends family and fans is going to be able to to see me live. You've and I want to grow into the role of the leading martial artists hearings can maybe I you know especially now. sent her step down so think it's time for somebody nobody can take over the throne man and I think that has to be mean so I felt that this event was made for me. I obviously don't live there but I'm just wondering is there are a lot of buzzes the first time you've see when they go to a country for the first time usually it feels like a really big deal and we were just talking to Martin Kampman. There's only two Danish fighters on this card so I feel like they're adopting you as one of their own. Are you sensing a lot of big deal or do you think you'll you'll you know a lot of buzz for this or do. You think you'll only really feel that. Once you get there tomorrow. it it. It has been some bus but the looking forward to see how the the vibes are. When I get to Copenhagen then I expect there's going to be a great show and the and the community we will enjoy this. Has Life changed at all for you. Since you be jock rate you notice. It's a difference yeah I do it. It's a little bit more. people are recognizing you. You WanNa you get a little bit more media attention than the and so on but the my life looks pretty much the same you know I'm training twice a day and eating sleeping and that's what I do so I don't see too much you know. I don't know if you saw this interview that Jacques did recently with them. May Find Dot Com talked about dealing with depression after the loss and being very emotional afterwards. Do you read that and if so how do you react to that knowing that you're like it was because of your now that you have anything to feel bad about her feel guilty about but just that he was reacting to something that happened in a fight that you were involved in. Do you have any reaction to that. you know. I can relate to that and I really felt with Jack. Right after their fight a really understand that he was really really close to to the ultimate goal and and he has been in the game for such a long time and he was so close to get title shots and the then I'm coming from where and the and the destroys that so I really feel with him and the and the understand the feeling so but on the other side the the you gotTa do this in this game so you can't show mercy when it's time to fight you say that you can relate to him. What do you mean by that abandon similar experiences. I remember after my lost to Jerusalem. Those were really really felt like yeah. yeah. I felt like shift words. When I got home I will see the state that the probably never have been in other situations felt the super I could look into a wolf for several hours without moving without the being able to think type of emptiness and the the test to be some kind of depression so I can relate to that feeling after like hey did you snap out of that. It was hard because I felt like the only way I could snap out of it was to get back banning and to continue to grow but I I was injured after the fight so it really took some time before could train properly again and that's really helped me back act like six months later. AL's able to train appropriately again and and the I started to feel a little bit better so yet to get back in there with new goals and the and get back in training. I think that's the best medicine and let's see January is going up way class and has new fight so oh yeah I'm happy and interestingly enough since that fight you have not lost and so I'm wondering if that feeling that you experience afterwards afterwards fuels you like that is part of your motivation for not losing for for not feeling again. Do you think about that a lot. Has It stuck with you what I did after that fight was that I got a mental coach so since that FIFA I got the mental coached and the I learned to a have both to be better prepared before fights but should should think like that happened than than I'm prepared for that as well so I really feel much more comfortable now going out there and the and I feel like I'll able to perform closer to my ability itself working with him so really recommend that to everybody that's struggling with preflight nerve. Arab sort the persons off defied so mental coach assists is great if you can't find a google. Do you still work with him. Yeah I do. I just had a meeting with dimmer like a one hour ago. Wow in like this last meeting before the fight. What are you working on. We're talking about preparations for the fight week and making taking shortcuts up with the older stressful things away that everything is prepared for me to go as smooth as possible the things that I'm going to be thinking about on fight week and the issue is Asian and so on so I wanna be as prepared as a camp for the week ahead them what's coming in. Did you suspect that for as long as you fight you'll work with someone like this absolutely but the work was more intense than the stark and they'll I have learned to muster muster many of the techniques that we working with so we're not seeing each other as often as before but more like briefly and these reminding me of a couple of nothing send the and so on site. I believe I'll continue to talk with them about the nuts not as much as in the beginning. Will you talk to him before the fight at all or or was it. I think this was it but he might have made that. I can call them at any time. They should need anything so I. It's a security for me. If if I need us and just curious because I'm fascinated by in this in this winning streak was ever a moment like the night before fight or the day of a fight where you felt you really needed to talk to him and you and you call them once. I can't remember but I don't think it was. I like acute situation or anything like that. I just I think that we had a shot at the hotel room and the it just reminded me out a couple of being said I need to think about so usually work is don before I travel and such a big difference for me right now I am I am before so it's even hard to put words on important that because before me so the winning streak now makes sense ever since you started working with them. You're undefeated four. No one of those wins came against David Branch. Did you hear last week that he's been suspended the two years by Asada Yeah. I think that's my second appeal. I think Bradley Scotland suspended as well so I got two of those guys right now. Did you suspect anything with him with when you fought him. I mean it was a short fight but did you did you think of anything like that. No you know I'm very careful about the judging people from the performances or deluxe or anything like that I think ever a little bit to talk to you but when it comes to mentioning people name seeing the in doping situations so auber careful with that you should not take anything from anyone that especially if they hasn't hasn't proved guilty also so right now one eighty five is very interesting because pollock Pulkovo. Excuse me had that big win against your Romero back in August and you're having this fight so close to the middleweight title fight which is in a week from your fight October fifth costs us says he's flying out. There says it he's been invited. I know you think if if you went on Saturday you should get the next five. What do you think do you think it's going to be costs a I in. You're probably going to have to fight someone else this if somebody's injuring themselves on probably the one getting in there because cost. I won't make the way the I if if it goes like scheduled at believe Costa as the next one you know he's on the heated and the big name and a lot of hype so but I'm happy to have a elimination fight with him if they want to. If not the I will wait for my turn but I know that I will fight for the title eventually and But definitely it's. It's me or cost for next time so I if I beat can on there. Are you saying that you're going to fly to Australia after your fight in Denmark to be standby fighter. Is that what you want just if you would ask me to okay. They haven't though right okay this time next year. Have you fought or will will be on the verge of fighting for the title yeah for sure that's online. That's my goal and that's my vision next year. I'm going to be the USA championship man a I think it's realistic through to think in the end of next year there will be a possibility so yeah. Let's see my mind all right well. The next step is Saturday against jared cannon near by the way congratulations. I think you recently signed a new contract with. UFC correct that's correct well done yes well done so a a lot of exciting things for. Jack the joker Hermansson and they continue Saturday on ESPN plus against Jared Cana near main event in the first ever event in Denmark. Thank you so so much for doing this. Before you fly out Jack I really appreciate it and all the best to you on Saturday. Get so much aerial speak to you all right there. Is the joker always smiling. I love that Guy Guy always in a great mood always happy and what a fascinating story about working with a life coach great stuff there from Jack Hermansson. What did you say Corporate Jake. Did you say something to me. Okay so should we wait. Wait now right okay but of the a change of plans if you will we're going to actually be joined in a couple of minutes by Daniel Cormie and then we're going to be joined or we're going to air interview with Jorges Maswadeh so five minutes from now we'll talk to Daniel Cormet and then will air at the Mazda del interview. I appreciate everyone tuning in our show by the way don't mention it enough on the the live version of the show the show does rear actually doesn't rear like a one a one our version of the show a cut down version that corporate jake and the rest of the team back their work on airs usually at around midnight on ESPN two but there's some new elements to it that don't air on this particular my turn back the clock segment which I like very much in in this particular week we look back at the seven spinning back fist knockouts in UFC history and I didn't know this I don't know if you guys news but the first ever spinning back fist this knockout and UFC history was by schone Carter Mister International. I had no idea that he fought against the guy who is on looking for a fight now with Dana. Dana white friend on looking for a fight was actually the guy in the fight against schone Carter. I had no idea why didn't anyone tell me this. That's one of the best but of course it ends with the Steven Peterson knockout on Saturday which was actually a counter to a spinning back fist from Martine Eighteen Bravo counters it and nails him an unbelievable turn of events. That was a fun car on Saturday. I enjoyed it. You didn't Aldana looked phenomenal. Maybe her best performance to date in the UFC couldn't help but think of Henry pseudo as I was watching Brandon Marino people like to laugh at Henry so who know pseudo people like to call them cringe and make fun of him and all the stuff none of this would be happening without him if he would've lost to T. J. dillashaw on January nineteenth of this past year in Brooklyn. There is no flyweight division. It's dead like I don't think enough. People realize this and there's a very good chance at Henry's bruce who'd never fights again at one twenty five that way cut takes a lot out of him had he lost that fight to Tj. They closed up. Moreno himself himself had been released went to Ella fe brought him back. Nave Got Kaikoura France Sergio Pettus look great in his fight on on Saturday and return to one twenty five. There's there's a legitimate case be made that if it wasn't for that one particular win and in everything that he did leading up to that fight and everything that he did after that fight in the build up to that fight there is no one twenty division anymore isn't that amazing the guy singlehandedly and I know he currently he's on the longest victory tour of all time every single event whether it's an Abu Dhabi Mexico God knows where I mean he's probably GonNa be Denmark this weekend. As well every single event it seems like he's they're sitting in the front row huffing and puffing with a a replica medal by the way not the the real medal but it's real gold but it's just not the actual goal metal. I'm not even sure if he got the gold the middle back remember a couple years ago. He was in that fire. He was at this retreat somewhere in northern California. It was in that fire and the whole thing you know his whole room. Tom went up in smoke and he actually lost the gold medal. He brought it there because he was there to do some promotional appearance so I don't even think he has the real one back because I think he told me that he has to go through a whole process get back but someone made him this replica out of real gold so he he shows up to be events with it and whatnot he he deserves a lot of credit. It's unbelievable what he's been able to do. I suspect that his next fight will happen. In the first quarter it could could be against Dominick Cruz. I know they've talked about Joseph. Bene- feeders but I think it's a little too soon right now to to pinpoint who he's going to fight because does he still rehabbing that despite his his world travels he is still rehabbing that shoulder my colleague Mark Monday over at ESPN okay. I'm sorry Moreno. Someone's getting really mad at me. I Apologize. I guess I was calling marina more no more no more ran no this from mark Monday of Espn Dot Com he spoke to your Rodriguez. Your call the beginning of the show we spoke to Jeremy Stevens about a an incident that happened yesterday at the hotel as he was leaving. We have the son okay. Here's the sound from Jimmy Stevens and then I'll tell you well you Rodriguez said about it do not have got into it at the hotel trying to come up and be cordial. He comes up and he's he's trying to maintain the. I came here to compete and fighting on. It's like shoving back across the hotel and get into it with a little bit. Where did this incident happened in in the lobby and someone that you're saying that this wasn't like the wings or anything this was when you guys were away from the cameras bringing down my back checking my bags win housing Jospin Food and then we're taking often comes up like all core drilling giving thumbs up like hey everything okay and I comes up like shake. My hand is trying to be like a gentleman. I get it and you start stop. Shitting is I really I'm not from Trice School Brown on industry. I'm here to compete. I'm here flight. I'm here to kill you. You know so right away. My my mentality was back the fuck up so I shoved him on his coaches his dad his parents. Nobody's just how what will so that was Jeremy Stevens side of the story this from Mark Monday just posted right now on ESPN DOT COM rod quote. Rodriguez told the peon that he went up to Stevens quote unquote nicely and asked how his I was Rodriguez said Stevens told him it was fine and Dan. Rodriguez said he asked him if it was okay now what happened in the fight things escalated from there quote he pushed me like a little expletive and I just told them you live the rest of your life with that in your head. If you could continue and didn't shame on you quote. I'm ready for the tests and the proof. If I'm wrong all apologize in public no problem that's more from your Kariya's all right. That's the story there. We'll see if they actually make the. Let's not do I just want to get to do. We all right all right so in a matter seconds. We're going to be joined by Daniel Cormier. This is the last time we heard from him. This is following. UFC Two forty one in Anaheim last month at the Honda Center a lot of times you based decisions Asians in we based decisions and emotion. I don't WanNa be that guy you know so. I WANNA go back and talk to Selena. Talk to my coaches and we'll we'll figure I figure out what what's next okay so everyone wanted to know after that flight would be next for Daniel Cormie. Of course he has talked about retiring at forty years old world wondering if that was the last time he would compete in the octagon last week. Dana white tying several media outlets that they were working on a trilogy not fight against CPA Mitch. Let us not speculate anymore. Let us talk to the man Daniel Cormie. WHO's kind enough to join us there? He is how are you you. I'm doing good what you what you guys I. It has been awhile. DC's meanwhile since that particular location was on the show. We haven't done one from that. Spot in your house so it's great to talk to my man and before we get to anything. I just want to send my condolences. We've obviously talked in private but you know because you lost your father there recently. I know how much he he meant. You just wanted to send my condolences to you and your family and ask you. How are you doing several weeks later after the news of his passing okay. It's the hardest thing I mean. My Dad was was a fantastic man and you know he really sacrificed a lot in life to try to make a life for us in to lose him was was terrible. I mean it was just so fast. You know we went from. We went from a year in about him. Having a form of cancer March Colon two April. They told us that radiation that gotten it and he was good in in two amine early euro. You guys did that interview in east exceed in June like the thirtieth in July. I my sister city look sick so he took him to the emergency room. They told him that he had the real bad from cancer. We just didn't know also also home of July. You know we dealt with trying to find they told my father yet six months soliven so we the whole month scrambling trying to find second opinion everything else to try to help him but two days after the guy did that interview it just it's just creating out fast at disease can run through somebody especially a small man like my dad. How much was he and his his illness on your mind as you were preparing for that you didn't speak about this in the build-up. But how much were you thinking about it. This is a very slippery slope right because you know I don't want to discredit steep in any way I want that disclaimer claimer Prom. It's hard whenever you're dealing with a lot of family issues but he he won the fight you know and he would have won the regardless but you well. It is what it is. You know we all have our problems in my burden was the only time I think you know more than anything thing area. You know like when we when I was going into the fight the week prior about a week and a half beginning to the hospital in a second home Sunday before to fight so when are too on my father got sent home in are everything's good you know and I thought no. We're going to continue to try to find out what was happening. You know that giving him some medication rigid very hopeful and and my parents normally right front row for the fights and you know they weren't called before to fighting on it was back in the hospital. You know some lot to deal with but ultimately steeping wanted to fight and he wanted to regardless. I guess you know we know you. You take losses hard. You wear your emotions and your heart on your sleeve and we saw the clip of you afterwards we saw in the cage. You're very emotional to deal with the loss lawsuit. You were so disappointed about the result but then to deal with a real life thing like like your father's illness in the span of a week. I was just concerned for your well. Being how are you you handling. It all mentally emotionally. How are you handling those two traumatic things happening in the span of a week. One loss is a hard on me than it was very difficult but you don't sleep as a good guy great father and you wanted to fight but I'm you know I just went back to Louisiana and I think when I went home knowing what I knew fight was the furthest thing from a mind. I went back to my mom's My father was just really sick. When I was the only concern so you know I think I think it keeps things in perspective a little bit you know each able to put things in perspective you know like much as I love love sports everything else you know my family and everything is It's so much more important beyond in that moment I would have given any title any amount of money anything. Try to just help my dad. I went home to that. You know so ideas put things in perspective the dealt with my family you know for everything spent eleven days in. Lafayette somebody dying years and you know I got spend like the following week at five with my father in the next week with my mom you know as we prepare for the funeral funeral services so it just really helped to put things in perspective anyone. I came home after everything now I have to deal with the effects of the loss you know but it was really put off for a while because more important things to the precedent into my focus from from from the fight in the midst of all that you went to speak to the Texas am football team just days after the why did you do that. I was talking to Jimbo Fisher to coach and he said boys. Do they want men do they're supposed to do you know there was a lesson to be learned. In that moment you know that I made a commitment to those kids to speak to them and it was my job in it was what I was supposed to do. You know I'm not a kid anymore. Kids do whatever they want. Men Do what they're supposed nice to do. in was supposed to go there in on Thursday. I spoke to some veterans all overcoming hardship you know and I house dealing with it. In the face. All versity in infiltration said this he goes D. C. Loss biggest fight of his life last Saturday and he goes you think he wants to be here. He goes. There's no way that's why zero and men do what they're supposed to do and so I'm wondering now here. We are a month and a half or so removed from the flight have you. I had the chance or did you have any interest in sitting down and watching the fight from start to finish no I haven't I watched the Fourth Rama to fight that that was it because ultimately that's what those are the things that I need to accept. I think when you are dealing with it's something that's hard losing a fight. You need to see a don't cloud your judgment with any success you may have had deal with the underlying. Ryan issue deal with what ultimately led to the result and would alternate led to a result was was was me doing certain things than the end of the fight just truly ignoring all advice from the some of the best minds all sport evolved could have your Mendez Zindel Sanchez Sanchez Leandro Vieira it. Was You know it was me not listening that got me beat and ultimately I deserve to lose that fight because if I will continue to win that fight or one that fight it would not have been the lesson that I need right now in my life. What should you have done differently in that round. you know. I think just been a little more cautious. You know the issue for me. Is I fought very emotional in that fight. you know just fair very emotional in you know obviously that's it's easy to do. Whenever you're landing just everything you throw in but also just just just out there essentially fighting you know I'm I'm generally pretty guy seems to the point that had times booed out of building you know but everything we trying trying to do was what you saw in wrong number one and then at the end of it was just like you know. It was crazy when you say you so. You've obviously been there with guys that you don't like John Jones. I mean that's one of the greatest rivalries in history the store. Why were you fighting so emotionally steeped. We know that there was some friction but why not you know I think you know when you're when we get to this fight area like everything was going so well beautiful e sixty peace and everything was going so well it just the the world was at my fingertips. Simpson but on the backside I was going through so many bad things and I think I think you can't control. We'll anger the no one we had. We you know we went to the arena by five thirty and I called my parents to say bye and then I'm GonNa talk to mopped fighting back in the hospital. Also what you know what's going on in in again. I'm really not trying to take anything using away from meal. TRAJAN corn adjust loss but I felt like I did a lot of things better. Did you feel like in hindsight. You got a little overconfident often because you were looking really good like that. First Round couldn't have gone any better and I remember them telling you corner. Put Your hands up. You know respect power. Did you feel like you're feeling yourself a little too much. I think I just didn't feel the threat in the honestly I didn't feel the threat in wrong. one-two-three the three. I think Steve did a great job. It was to hit me in the stomach right and I was feeling them but they weren't really hurting me like they weren't hurting joining me but then the very last one before finishing hit with one right over my rib and when he hit the river tight my belly in like my hands drop up and then he admitted a beautiful combination of top that was just great work by him you know and it goes to the fighting mind for mindset in the the ability of St pay me. Oh Ch- you know he went you went hard body shot in and I'm like the one that hurt me. instead out of chasing that again he went up top. That's the one that it may across the tin and that's my started to staggered. I've generally been very good about not allowing that follow up strike to hurt when it went. I'm hurt but this time he was just so straight. Chris that it land there was nothing I just didn't see it when you watch the fighting in particular that fourth-round which you said you watch and then you see him win and celebrate and do the dance and all that what does that do for you inside. You know it's weird because it doesn't anger me. It really doesn't anger me. You know I mean a guy a guy at his moment. You know a guy had his moment especially in that way I mean this guy got hit a hot. You know and yet to go through a lot lot of sustained a lot of damage any any any wintered got the job done so I mean love celebrated. That doesn't doesn't affect me. I mean he had to stand through me and brock listener. do what we did last year so yeah. I I didn't I didn't I didn't affect what affected me with my kids. You know my wife looking at the face might children and those are that's what affected me wasn't doesn't his celebration or watching what my children went through is what hurt that hurt. I just felt like my whole whole life. I live for protecting my family. My wife and my kids and I just couldn't believe I put him through that. You know and they've been the fights. Would they never seen the other side in That's what hurt 'em dancing known them. Celebrate Nets to make you WANNA heavyweight champion of the world. Would your kids say to you after the fight. Sh It's it's tough you know. My son is a he loves. The sport loves fighting and I sit down cry and you said I'm trying not new trying US trying his hardest to not cry and he just could not turn it off. I think that's the first time that that he was so emotional and didn't know how to deal with his emotions in the you know did. I thought he was very brave. In very strong in those situations situation 'cause they're. They've got cameras pointed in their face because everybody wants to see their reaction to and I thought my son was very brave. I thought my daughter was very brave. The wife was very bray in a sense that they were the they saw that I was hurting in. They were trying to be strong to make sure that I knew that my support system was was very very very strong and they were they were. GonNa try to hold me up even hurt him just as bad but I thought they were break. I was very going back now. I'm very proud of were as you know. One of the big narratives going into that fight was whether or not it would be your last night and I saw a clip of union in the Locker Room afterwards where your son asks you. Is this your last fight and you said you didn't know and so obviously the big question. Canales a month and a half later. Have you decided if you will keep on fighting. You know I just never again can't like I didn't have time to really process decision. Immediately knows more deal my family. My Mom lost my godfather in May which brother in the husband in office also as more worried about my family didn't really precision assistance in then. I got a call from Dana couple of weeks ago. We spoke at length in he talked me I of the front and and then I ask questions about microwave because obviously if it's his job to do also and that's the way I'd WanNa. Do you know I I I said let me think about when talk to Bob in the Wayne. Ravi Air was endo and my wife knows they are all like to see whatever the side will do. It was Selena you know she goes you. Don't invite their. This is not how you in. She will lose again. You know it's just meant to be you know but for you to be fighting as you did even with the worst fight Iq McHugh in the history of your career. You managed to go out ahead going into that room that you laws it. Also you go fight your fight. You Know Hyun moves even when you fight your fight. You know we're fine but you don't want him like that because I don't want you to do this now in in four years down the line and start start going. I should have did inside to do it right so I'm. I'M GONNA fight this guy again in the mind inches to fight him in the right way and hopefully that's enough to get my hand race but I will fight him again. You know win or lose. I'm not fighting whiten again here so beauty only time that I ever stepped foot in the off guard again so the next one is officially the last one next one will be the last one and and it's against steeple it has to be sleepy no-one house managers and is that offer on the table right now from the AFC. Do they want to make that fight. Yes they WANNA make that flight. They want me to sleep in yeah. It was fantastic. It was a fantastic quite for all the wrong reasons. It didn't have to be a fantastic to fight but it was and I'm not saying I can just go grab sleep. Emil blown down it will no but I can do a lot of things better than I did on all the seventy and is there a date attached to that fight right now as far as the offer concerned no there. Isn't you know I think sleep is dealing with awesome stuff. you know I'm ready. I'm ready to go whenever the sooner the better for me. you know they after the fight. I spent thirteen hours or the Disneyland. I want my home. I had thirty eight people from Louisiana that had never been so. I took a model Disneyland and the I'm ready to ago. Just waiting for a date to to preeminent will fight again. I know they're looking for a main event on December fourteenth. Is that too soon or would you be down down to do that as well. I'd be down to okay. We're GONNA becomes available. That will work for me. I'd be happy to get myself Freddie to go as you may. Recall was quite the journey to get to the second fight with brock stuff and you had back surgery as well. Is there any part of you that is concerned that steep it will try to turn the tables on you and make you wait and make you sit this one out and drag it out to the point where you'll say. I don't WanNa wait and maybe you do are you just can wait as long as possible and get that fight. I'm not gonNA wait as long as possible if he doesn't want to fight them okay. He doesn't WanNA fight but I I didn't necessarily make him wait purpose. I quoted awaiting actually because I had back surgery. I didn't have the go ahead to just go just the moment. I got the go-ahead to start training. I did you know what I did as best I could but the reality is like with my back. I probably could could awaited more time for it to heal but I felt like okay I. It's functional enough to go. I'm sure you WANNA fight so it's what I do. I love to compete in once. I thought I was good enough to train. I said Okay I'll I took a fight. You know so it wasn't because I was like trying to mix deep a meal wait now. I just had back surgery in December and can do anything until April and I started training camp in Maine so I went soon as I could in your talks with Dana waiter the UFC brass. Your management have said that they've offered this to St Bay. Do you know how he feels about it right now. They just told me they're going to go up. CPI that's it you don't. I'm only worried about what I can control. I cannot control servicemen it. I get a fight offer identified offered in it's up to the other side. That's I'm only going to worry about what I can control. Yeah I mean I'm not in a place right now. Area where I'm chasing. I'm waiting. I'm begging. I'm not doing any of that stuff. I don't need to either. We're GONNA fight. A We won't fight so it is I mean I'm going to see what happens. I mean I hope he fights you know. I hope he fights me. Run it back like arena back with him. I mean I didn't necessarily have to you know I could have that big win last July and and said wow that was beautiful in Walker Mario's. I imagine of the brock listener thing was on the table for them. They probably did it to such a massive fight but the the moment. They told me he wasn't fighting us. It'll play as I said from the moment I stood for any reason. Bribe doesn't fight. I'll give him this rematch so rightfully deserves and I did had you won that fight in August now. Could you tell us in high tech. Would it have been your last one. Would you have walked away at that. Point probably would have been done yeah. I would feel good to walk away from the sport only reason I'm fighting against a guy that beat me in IBM. That's breath. I love to compete and I don't WanNA finish like this. I'd say because even if I go to him again at least I will fight my fight. It's the released feel good enough to beat me under those terms didn't it is what it is. I've lost four. I've lost a lot of times. I've lost targets. Angie's arrested matches. Sometimes I'm just not as good and I can deal with that but at least let me give my best effort four. NFC as coaches Vancouver yeah and I can I had seen a guideline congratulated tone great job you know like I liked Marksman Ellie L. E. N. coaches. I think are great guys. I told him congratulations on getting a job done no hard feelings. I just know that I just want to give give my best effort. That's it and you know what's going to happen right. They'll do the trilogy. Let's say you win all right one more against Jon Jones. You know that's coming Dana. The white is openly talked about that. This is what he's going to offer you but you're saying for sure. There's only one left at this morning. Junan fighting steeping yields and that's that's it for me. I don't know what are hard to convince the ground. I WANNA go fights opinion. I I WANNA do that. I WanNa do it right. I want to meet my I WANNA go up there and and just do what I'm supposed to do. Fight the wealth to fight and and get my hand rates and if I don't again as long as I fight my fight and I played the way they're not capable of fighting. I'm good with it and so here's my my big question. You said you fought emotionally too emotionally in that in that second fight considering that you've lost to him and considering everything that you've been dealing with your father. It's going to avoid not fighting mostly considering that. It's the retirement there's a lot now going into no listen listen when I was going through. Nothing should ever nothing could ever mashed ahead. You know nothing could ever be worse than what we dealt with a family so I don't worry about that and plus. What are you going to do the same thing again lose again. I mean what does that do for you. Driving do better. It's all you can do is try to I try to give lessons all these young men and women that I that I need to try to live by now. as as I chased his potential earth fight we found out after the fight. I didn't know this. I don't think many people knew he doesn't really talk a lot. Did you know that his father was also dealing and with with cancer as well going into that fight no I did. It's pretty that's it's crazy right yeah. That's that's that's what I don't like to think about that too much. Okay it just feels. I don't like to think about that too much because I never. I'm so happy that him and his family don't have to. I'm so happy that they don't oh I really am I don't. I don't want anybody to go to a winter but that's a weird one very very odd very weird. How is your body Eddie feeling after this issue the hand issue like forty years old now. How are you feeling. Are you up for another training camp. Tom Hardy aren't the the reason I would like to go. Sooner than later is because I feel great you know like I don't feel as if I'm run down or anything. I didn't hurt myself in the fine. I didn't hurt myself in the camp like I just feel good and it'll be better than just give rolling right away. better get rolling right away. Will you do anything differently as far as training or are you sticking with the same guys in the same same spot with the same kind of game plan you know. I think my coaches did a great job of getting me prepare. I just didn't execute. It's on me. You know it's it's very simple to could you watch a guy. in how bean just executed the game plan that was put out in front of him in look at how well he fought. Oh you know it's it's a matter of executing things that you are training with your coaches. My coaches had me prepared but they're so changes. All spend spend more time with with my strength conditioning coach off Guy Care McCoy was a two time Olympian. He was the head coach at Stanford Head Coach University of Maryland. He's GonNa come down in really overseas. The Russell portion of my training camp a guy that I've known since I was on the team and he has no problem saying hey do this better or do this different Is this a real voice a true voice that I can he will tell me everything. I need here in the Russian department. I've got guys that really speak truth to be Rosendo does Bob. It does all of those but it'll be good to have that common voice from office back in two thousand one of the most high level arrests. We have in the country country to really oversee what I'm doing in that aspect of my game. Will you watch the whole fight in its entirety before the third one or do you have no interest. I we'll okay I will. I think when I think when I do it'll be a matter of accepting everything that happened. I think it'd be a massive mistake. If I did watch it but I will at some point I will not will find the things that I did well. In the bad in on there were a lot of things I did. I think I gotTA respect this. I gotta respective and it's great to land at this at this at this insane percentage of strikes but let's do a lot less of them. I guess and I was surprised that you went to Vancouver. What was that like being back so soon working at a fight being around other people you just mentioned seeing steep as team but was was it tough to be back so soon or did it actually help lead you to this decision like missing it again. It wasn't even about missing the fighting. It was it was it was Kinda getting your head on the whole you know it's just kind of worn everything that you're going through and again. I scheduled to work a month after my fighting wooded. I'll tell you before we'll do men do men do. They're supposed to do and that's what that's what I did. You know I wanted to work and I called the fights. In in in I came you know every damn surrounded by people that love me dear to my wife is an angel angels. She loves me so completely and she's helping me get through all this and eventually you know it always gets better. You know so that's kind of how I feel right now. I feel much better than a few weeks ago. You're not supposed to you personally and you know. It was not good. You know I'll feel better today. I did a while back so for those that missed Daniel Cormie moments ago said that he is ready and willing to return for one last fight will be against steep amiach. He wants that he wants that third crack but that's it after that he wants to right that wrong and is ready as soon as December fourteenth that is tremendously exciting a lot of exciting things happening your life. The saints got back on track. Your guy drew brees is out teddy. Bridgewater drew who no big deal many a d. C. is doing his thing Doron Win October. Eighteenth Kyle crutch mergers got signed by Bell tour. GonNa make his debut a lot of exciting things but dare. I say this clip right here to me is the most exciting of them all look at Dan Dan himself look at this man. He gets shot by thirty three. What will you step into my the man who you step into feeling myself. I'm good. I'm clap what it's thirty three going to step the Dan Dan like that. What do you what do you feel when you see your son act like got a little swag a little pep in his step and they get those steps to him. What does that. What does that feel like to see that I think like I think like who is a WHO is. This boy is out of his mind. You know it's great man. All you ever want a boy's boy. Talk little boy that I don't. I like his swag when he got up. He amazes me every day in everything he does. My daughter just had this fantastic. These just unbelievable performances at the gymnastics gymnastics competition a couple of weeks ago is just so crazy like watching my children grow into themselves. You know I love watching Daniel in that football fuming. He loves it. He loves the contact. He loves the tackles but it's not just him. I got like five five rutger's on the football team in the you know I've got these clips from all making these great plays Bradley Kato Liam Liam Leiva Daniel. They're they're all making these fantastic tackles in. It's like watching. Those kids do so well watching low. Dan Get up there after he makes a play. Hey you know what I love. The celebrations not being right. He's GonNa clap himself and walk back to a thirty three kind of gave him the show the ball that was so funny. It's it's great. I it that those things make me so happy. Those are the things that are that that gets you through the tough thing. I want to kick gymnastics six and I hadn't been for a while and she round off does complete back flip. I'll call her mama. needling what will start happening been for a while all but I watch him in there just making me so provident. I'm so happy and so proud of what my kids are becoming and on top of that beginning September twenty eighth on the platform that I built ESPN plus which I'm now sharing with Alexa view jail and others new episode of detail featuring Israel Sonya how about this little graphic right there the last style benders September twenty eighth of course just days before his title fight against Robert Whitaker. You like doing this. Are you enjoying it. I love detail. It's so far on in its soul. It's so great to watch the fights would from a different perspective in just truly explain to people what's happening in mixed martial arts now I can go into. I can give you terminology that you'll never understand but I wanNA. I want to explain this to the next fighter. That wants to be me that wants to win two championships in the AFC are championships in other places. I want to be able to tell them. These are things that you need to be taken from this. This guy in this guy in this in this guy to try to build yourself into the fighter that part B. is great in the most beautiful thing about detail is if people all say well to the masses disguise better. This guy's better well they show not necessarily for this show is for the guy that wants to be a world champion and that's what I love most about Kobe in his his brain. Kobe is mine like don't worry about what people think worried about that kid that zero zero. That's one in two zero. One three in Ed kids says you know what. DC does this so goods but also if I can explain et kid a fight like Israel in this sense our fight conor or be in this sense. That was my job in regards detail. The fans love it as that means that that's that's Lonzo. That's icing on the cake. That's extra. That's just a little bit extra but Tom is for that guy. You know four that guy that wants to fight become a world champion watching intake from any final message to stay good. I hope you recover goes. Well you know and and I'm glad you got your moment. I was weirdly. It's weird to be to see someone that worked so hard rewarded especially when it's at your expense bottle like that he had his moment at you. Don't ask me having to go through what I went through in terms of the sadness of losing the title so I want to get that back but we weren't a back you know eight true heavyweight rivalry. Dr Lori will carry a sport and I think right now we have that which steeper and I and I intend to go back in and get the job done and fight in the waited. I've been trained to fight the way that has made me so successful but of course my my career and hopefully for your sake were staying away from Anaheim at this time a when I left the the Hans Shunning sworn how driving the bus and like everybody in the cars just holding up the bird towards issue on the Senate what the horribly the haunted slow bed. I told my boss at TV. I'm not even calling fight air anymore. Because I may walk to the fall and break my frigging or some. The big little Selena actually told me not to go back there. She goes don't go back. They don't fight there. She Puerto Rican Aaron suspicious. They're superstitious as we are on the wheezy. Anna and I sent him on in a break it. I'm GonNa do it does not matter and she goes. Please don't go back got. One is just too much in listen. They say you should always listen to your wife. I should have listened. I learned my lesson well. You are listening to her. This time you're coming back. Thank you so much as always. DC We talked about a lot of things. Thanks for doing this on this show. Thanks for talking to us. I appreciate it and hopefully you get that fight sooner rather than later my man thank you so much. I appreciate it all right there. He is the the one and only Daniel Cormet will that. Shoji fight happened December fourteenth. We shall find out it is certainly interesting and there you have it. He is coming back. He has one more fight in him. He wants to fight steep a he wants that trilogy flight and now let's see they get it done sooner rather than later. I'm told St Base dealing with some injuries right now and the UFC would like for it to happen on December fourteenth. Let us see interesting stuff fascinating stuff from the always candidate the always open authentic Daniel Cormie alright so let's end on this go from. I'm Daniel Cormier to perhaps the hottest fighter in the sport today or Hey Mas Vidal is enforced. Go as I said on Saturday. He could do no wrong last last week. He was in New York. I had a chance to sit down with him. At the seaport studios in New York City where they've filmed get up we went face to face to-to-to so we were sitting in the same room this time and we spoke a lot about his past a lot of things that I didn't know about about the rise the Cup of one Jorges Maswadeh here's my conversation conversation with the man who will meet Nathan as on November Second Madison Square Garden November Second Madison Square Garden. UFC Two forty four four one of the most anticipated fights in MMA history this man for him as well against Nathan for the title. How are you sir uh-huh gory aerial often. You're dodging me. You're saying that you're going to do my show. You don't show up. You're seeing it'll be on camera on the now. I got you in person. Finally I you know I love you. I I just from from the world itself. I say you know isolated from but I love you. May Not I wouldn't be here. You know what I can't stop thinking about. As I say November second four I think about that as well. We'll get to that in a second. You've been doing this sixteen years. forty-five pro fights going into this year. How the hell did this happen going into this year going into this year your last flight. You didn't fight in two thousand eighteen so you didn't have a lot of momentum. You're out doing the reality show. Your last flight was at. MSG Not even close to the main event not even close lost that fight if you told me that night or he might as well in a year and a half half is going to be main eventing MSG and one of the biggest fights of all time. I wouldn't have believed you. Would you believe you that game. Bird wanted to believe but that game is no longer with. This guy got buried a long time ago. It's this guy right here. You know so that guy wouldn't believe you. This guy knows what's going to happen on November second. How'd did you get rid of that guy. We had to catch a body where he's no longer with us. You know but something rose better I I just had the pro shut down a lot of negative program out of things in my life my outlook on certain things that I had to change in and and with Dad's come the success that I got no not as you know also like you said. I've been doing this for sixteen years so I got a lot of people don't know I've been sharpening tools a lifetime. You know I got more than sixteen. Sixteen Years in the sport is sixteen years pro been amateur for some time to so is just literally lifelong journey you know what did you say negative things like what let's say anything negative like my pants. You always filled with candies. I got kids candy snacks and stuff or snap APP. No more veggies foods for everybody then if if there's even the temptation finding that that's not what happens because the pantry still field with snacks but it's much like life life a lot of those negative things you're in the pantry. I removed him out of my life. I won't get into too much detail but there's a lot of things that are that are not part of my life. You know okay so that night like when you when you lose to wonder boy you have your call a moment where you're like. I need to make some changes here because I'm wasting my career. Definitely I need to make some changes but we got time time. We've got time well you. This guy was telling me before the you'd better come with the hot stuff like I don't usually we're. We're going to warm up. We're warming up you sit in the WOMA. Well some time passed in the fight. You know obviously heartbroken because the loss of everybody wanted to win against one of the boy. Oy And I can't get a fight at the time also got some injury so I told my manager in a nursing injuries that I got fix up a couple things and then get back to doing that process. Maybe maybe six months passed by. I'm ready to compete. Let's go. He's telling me on okay. Let me get you a fight. Some time passes by he gives me a call and my manager's is really good at trolling. I don't know if everybody knows this means so after putting me on numerous trolls he calls me and I go. Hey what's up and he goes. Hey Man I got this reality. Show so for you go awesome. I'm not in the mood for the troll today. Some time passes because he has the same proposition on the day. I WANNA fight. I don't WanNa be on the real world or crap. I WANNA compete. You know a man. I can't get you a fight ran on. Nobody's really WANNA fight. You know this gigs getting Sweden in Sweden the more you say no go there for a couple of weeks. What happens ends up being that I go for the show thirteen weeks and there's no phone mobile TV. I've said numerous times but this is kind of how I got to find out exactly what had to do. It sounds Corny as it may be but being out from away from everybody just by myself. I got to find me just listen into my voice not a million different opinions or some stupid song on the radio anything I just got to hear my own voice and and what I want done in my life before I close the chapter on fighting in these are some of the things I don't want it done in my life. I'm still nowhere near where have to get at but I'm pointing in the right direction. My my my mind body. Iden- Spirit is pointed towards the right direction for a long time in my life and my career show these last four years that I got she'll be a roller coaster very rarely watch. I'm GONNA snatch everybody. Nobody saw every time I fly. I love people when I fight you know that I just took their breath away. I love that feeling so he's last four years. You're going to be going to be there's going to be something wild man so in the end the reality show must save your career saved my career say not reality show because I could have found this in but it helps out forbid in jail you know just having that that who moment that constantly being when myself finding out here my voice making a detailed so plan on what I'm GonNa do what's left of my career so even though you you saw the light so to speak and you had the plan to see where you're at now to see the kind of year that you've had I the 'til fight which let's be on going into that fight. You know it was a fight but we didn't expect this explosion. Then of course what happened July and now it's happening in November is part of you. It's like Dan. I can't believe it's actually happening divinely fulfilling these dreams that I know I'm kind of mad at myself took so long so as my my good friend and manager did you because he knows that I had the capabilities and but I told them at the start of this year I also told him Amberg because you've got to have witnesses man I I just don't be caught and stuff in there. Everything I've done this year. Almost call it not really almost called it to a t to the few close to me that have been there on General Manager for American American top team Richard Puma Dan Hamburg on my manager along with my coaches. I've been calling in out of the police way before they get done so they're like in ten just like. I told Lisa so we got big plans. November second huge plains so have you call things that we haven't seen like other things that you call that. We haven't seen come to fruition yet yeah. I'm not a prophet but man you guys spot on with a couple things. I can't get into detail or some of them. I gue- fascinated by the higher ups. You're going to hear that I got this Sabah brainpower. The one killed me okay but there are other things. It doesn't just entered. The number on November second is is a gift to the world right so you had probably feeling that nate was gonNA since you've been foreseeing I. I wasn't sure on on the nate thing if it was going gonNA happen. I thought obviously it's a strong possiblity nate for starters of fighter more than anything I know he's chasing the money. Just send me but that guy wants the fight to get him out of bed with motivation. Motivation hit the heavy bag. I'm that guy you know why not because I'm the funniest the best looking at nothing not simply because I'm gonNA come to kill you five the chance and anybody Eddie fighting. He knows that that's not motivating enough. I don't know what is being said. This fight manage just speaks awesome yeah right now. I'm pretty heightened I could. I could go run five miles a hit the background on pretty like so. Where did the change come because there was a time where you were getting split. WHAT DECISION SPLIT DECISION UNANIMOUS DECISION. You're losing the close ones now. You're like five seconds. Don't blink knocking out until you feel like you've changed as a fighter later as well. Oh definitely definitely you're more aggressive not just that but like reverse engineer to my whole career numerous times but never in-depth death like I did this last time when I was in isolation under the stars just me got in the universe and I'd seen everyone on my decision losses in my head and and went back. How could I have one that decision. I was my first answer and then I immediately killed that person in thought and said why the Hell would I look for Wade out point a guy and should beat ending them like make a math formula so there's no judges involved and that's all I've been trying to do and that's what I'm GonNa do. What's left of my career like you said I am the poster Cheboygan split decisions that have the most split decision losses in the UC currently right now? It's not something that I'm proud of but it's true so taking that into consideration I had to it'd be like man. No matter what happens is not going to be known for that whether I had one though split decisions or lost some I wouldn't WanNa be that guy anyways that I was in such an hour competition. There's a lot of fights. I feel I've been robbed terribly in but it's just like man. I got to figure out the formula to execute these guys because when great sportsmen when triple-teaming aiming a great player. Let's say Michael Jordan. He finds a way to win. He finds a way to get those buckets. We gotta find a way not to get too decisions. I gotta find a way to eliminate opposition separate myself from the pack baptize people so there in outer orbit when they come back. There's no question of who better manage and that's that's all I'm trying to do. Separate myself from the pack so you mentioned something about when you're at the reality show and you kind of had a chance to speak yourself but it could have really been anywhere said something that kind of stuck with you said it could've could have been in jail. God Forbid Yeah. I said the Trim Joe because they'd be music TV sure in a lot of things from not that I'm not in any way shape but I I think a lot of people don't know this. You have spent time in jail about that. WHY NOT WE'LL SKIP THAT ONE. I'm just curious. Why did you go to jail. So is it just being a dumb kid. Let my surroundings. Maybe maybe you know a lot of a lot of things going up wanted the best decision some of them you no. I don't regret because it was like maybe fearful my life type things and I did certain things and what