35 Burst results for "January. 6Th"
Mike Pence Would Consider Testifying in Front of Jan. 6 Committee
"So. This is somewhat unbelievable, but I'm going to help us work our way through this. Mike Pence is going to challenge Donald Trump for the Republican nomination for the presidency. No, it's not written in stone just yet, but that's the only reason to be a New Hampshire right now. And Mike Pence does not own a vacation home in New Hampshire. He doesn't have relatives in New Hampshire, but he's a New Hampshire, and he is laying the groundwork folks for a run at The White House. And he's not the only one. But this could get very interesting because on the debate stage, you could end up having Donald Trump Mike Pence and Liz Cheney. Now the question is, who does Donald Trump pick up on the stage and smack around the other person? Is it Liz Cheney? Does he pick her up and physically just smack the living daylights out of Mike Pence or is it vice versa? But they're all going to be running for The White House. So look, Mike Pence had a couple of things to say. First of all, he was talking about whether or not he would testify or consider testifying at the January 6th committee. Jeremy said, if they were to call you the committee. Come and testify. Would you be agreeable? Why would if there was an invitation to participate, I would consider it, but you've heard me mention the constitution a few times this morning. On the constitution, we have three co equal branches of government. And any invitation to be directed to me, I would have to reflect on the unique role that I was serving as vice president.
Dan Horowitz: We Have a Narrow Window to Act Against the FBI
"I mean and this is my whole thesis as you well know with COVID fascism that a lot of us are bothered by the fact that this new great reset began a while ago but even people on our side were asleep and then when it came to the FBI January 6th and then the Whitmer kidnapping plot which turned out to be a fed napping plot that the feds did it You know this was going on to ordinary citizens for a long time where you had people that were merely within eyeshot of the capitol and they had their homes rated people thrown into this solitary confinement So now finally the stepped on the rattlesnake that everyone seems to care about and they're doing it to a former president and this is going to really be their undoing I would be surprised if they unleashed the actual asset David because that's usually several hundred pages and that would contain a lot of embarrassing information So I still think they're going to filibuster this But the reality is Dan we have a very narrow window We're on the one hand people are awake to the severity of the problem with the federal police powers But on the other hand we could still kind of do something about it If you know what I mean and that won't last for much longer and I think this is my overall picture is it's not enough to wait for Kevin McCarthy in a rhino GOP house to hold some hearings I'm not against that but I think states need to start interposing against this and saying we will not allow federal agents to operate against citizens when it's crime of fascia driven by political persecution and not concrete probable cause for a legitimate crime
Dinesh Has Some Praise(?!) for Adam Kinzinger
"May seem like a bit of a surprise, but I'm going to say a few words and praise of Adam kinzinger. What Adam kinzinger, the guy who the guy who decided to vote well, he voted for Trump's impeachment. He's been on the January 6th committee with Liz Cheney. But here's a key difference. Adam kinzinger has a little bit of self recognition. Liz Cheney does not have any. I mean, let's start with Liz Cheney. I mean, the idea of getting absolutely routed in your primary. And think of it. You got the Cheney dynasty. You've got all the money you have outspend Harry and hagerman. Harriet hagerman is a kind of a nobody. She comes out of nowhere and no political experience. She's running against you. And you lose by like, what, 35 points, 40 points, according to Trump. I mean, this is humiliating. A normal person would be like, oh my gosh, I don't know if I can show my face in public at the very least, I've got to recognize I did something to offend my own base. I insulted my own voters. I gave them the middle finger. Now they're giving me the middle finger. This is not good. But it would lose Jaime. None of that. You basically, I'm like Abraham Lincoln. I'm like general grant. My loss is really a victory onto the bigger ones now. This is like this shows a level of psychotic delusion that it's hard to even know. I mean, this is somebody with a ridiculous, absurd ego. And I mean, politicians have big egos, but this is the limit. Now, now contrast this with kinzinger, who I think at least recognizes that he got clobbered by Trump. In fact, he was asked, did he does he believe that he quote won in the feud with Trump? And he goes, no, he goes, he goes, Trump won. He was evidently interviewed by WGN, and here are skins that are quote. Yeah, he won in the short term at least. So, you know, he kinzing is trying to minimize it, but nevertheless he admits,
Dinesh Discusses the Assassination Attempt on Salman Rushdie
"So rushdie is an untalented writer. He's a, he's a leftist. He's, in fact, mouths the same tired anti colonialism that I grew up with in the 1970s. It's like the guys in a time warp. So I'm not exactly a fan of rushdie, at least I'm not a fan of him as a writer. But look, the right to free speech is something that I do defend. I'm joking about my thought was, and a thought about, by the way, is a kind of a death proclamation. It's a death sentence, but it's a death sentence to be carried out by someone in the future. And it's not a sentence to be carried out by the state when the Ayatollah Khomeini issued a fatwa on rushdie. This was by the way for his book called a satanic verses said to be blasphemous said to be insulting to the prophet Muhammad. Now the satanic versus goes all the way back to a well 1980 8, I believe, is when that when that book was published, yeah, September of 1988. And so the thought was in effect for decades, rushdie is now an old man, he's well into his 70s. And in addition to the Khomeini fought, well apparently a religious foundation in Iran in 2012 offered a $3 million reward for rushdie's death. That's how these people are. Now, this is kind of scary because you've got a state. I'm not gonna say a religion, but a state here, the a theocratic state of Iran that is putting bounties in a sense on people. And this is, of course, terrorism. We're hearing a lot about terrorism these days oh yeah, some grandma who walked into the capitol on January 6th is a domestic terrorist. Nonsense. The term terrorist has become so debased, kind of like the word racism, that these days when I hear a terrorist, I'm not even fazed, to me it's a joke. But there are real terrorists and we're reminded here that terrorism is real, state sponsored terrorism is real.
U.S.P.S. Institutionalized Election Interference With New Division
"United States Postal Service just institutionalized election interference with new mail in ballot division by our buddy chuck devore Now in Texas formerly of California and this is in the federalist Pretty big deal don't you think To address some of these of the U.S. Postal Service announced on July 28 it was creating the election and government mail services division Adrian Marshall a United States Postal Service veteran was named as the division's first director with Mark Elias Remember that SOB The Democrats foremost lawfare professional a longtime proponent of elections by mail Tweeting out his approval These people just keep digging their way into the bureaucracy The rationale for this new division is that the growing use of mail in ballots requires extra attention to ensure the greater volume of mail ballots can be handled by an increasingly overburdened USPS It reported it delivered more than 135 million ballots in 2020 with 40 million delivered so far this year during the primaries More and more elections conducted by mail have been a longtime goal of Elias and other Of his ilk since long before public health fears over in person voting during the COVID-19 pandemic Constructive denote the most European nations found mail in ballots to be susceptible to fraud and limited their use But not in America No we have a perfect system And don't say anything You might be dragged before the January 6th French Revolution committee Or
Sebastian Talks With Rep. Matt Gaetz About Liz Cheney's Election Loss
"To say nah nah nah, goodbye Liz Cheney. Are you celebrating Matt Gaetz? I believe I was the first Republican to travel to Wyoming and to lay out the case against Liz Cheney from a policy standpoint, a political standpoint. At one point I had the record for the largest political rally in Wyoming history that did not include a rodeo element, but of course president Trump shattered that when he went to Casper Wyoming as rightfully he should. So hang on, hang on, you didn't get on a rodeo. You didn't ride rodeo, Matt. I'm disappointed. I am a Florida man. Anything you can not get on in flip flops. I would be very hesitant to engage upon. Surfboard a wakeboard. That I can do with John boat, a paddle board, but no interest in the rodeo activity for this Florida man. What I will say is that this is a verdict of sorts. This is the ultimate verdict on the January 6th committee. Now Seb, they told us that the January 6th committee was going to blow the top off the capitol building. Remember when Jamie Raskin told this that will instead all it did was blow the tires out of Liz Cheney's political career. They told us this would be this great shift in all of the political tectonic plates in our country that everyone would abandon president Trump and the reality is that the January 6th really deprivation of the facts, the misuse of process, the unwillingness to have both sides present and questioning those who came before the committee. It ended up calcifying and solidifying support for president Trump,
Pence tells GOP to stop lashing out at FBI over Trump search
"Former vice president Mike Pence says he would give an invitation to appear before the House committee investigating the capitol riot do consideration then president Donald Trump was not happy with Pence for not stopping the counting of electoral votes on January 6th of last year a fake gallows was constructed that day on the national mall and people chanted hang Mike Pence I must tell you that the American people have a right to know what happened that day In New Hampshire Pence says if there was an invitation to appear before the House committee investigating the riot he would consider it Any invitation to be directed to me I would have to reflect on the unique role that I was serving in as vice president Be unprecedented in history for a vice president to be summoned Committee members so far have not decided to seek pence's testimony saying others connected to him have provided investigators with plenty of evidence I'm Ed Donahue
There Is Fight Left in the American People
"There is fight left in the American people. They had every reason to go vote for Liz Cheney except for the fact it would have been patently insane. More money for Cheney, name ID, the media loved her, but Wyoming still has that rugged cowboy western spirit. Like, no, actually, we want to representative that is more focused on gas prices. The overreach of the federal government coming after our western lands fire management. Wildlife management, the idea of inflation crushing everyday people in Wyoming. That's a much more important. Those are much more important issues than the January 6th committee. But Liz Cheney remains defiant, Liz Cheney is now saying despite losing by 30 8 points in her home state, by the way, she's thinking of running for president. Play cut 54. The former president said last night you're now headed to political oblivion. You said this fight is just beginning. You've even launched a political organization already. So let's just be straight about it. Are you considering running for president yourself? I will be doing whatever it takes to keep Donald Trump out of the Oval Office. Well, I know you didn't say yes or no, and that's fine if you're thinking about it, but are you thinking about it? Are you thinking about running for president? That's a decision that I'm going to make in the coming months of Anne. I'm not going to make any announcements here this morning, but it is something that I'm thinking about. With what constituency exactly.
Harriet Hageman Explains Her Victory in Wyoming
"By the way, Laura Ingraham last night, Harriet hagman was on it. I really thought she did a good job of explaining what happened in Wyoming last night. Joining me now is Harriet hagerman, the Wyoming congressional candidate who just defeated Liz Cheney, Harriet. First of all, congratulations. I remember talking to you before you decided you were gonna throw your hat in the ring for real. And now, you know, you got it, girl. You're gonna be the nominee for the party and I can't imagine you won't be the next congresswoman from the great state of Wyoming. Well, thank you, Laura. It's wonderful to be back with you. We started this a year ago or about 11 months ago and here we are with all of the hard work and the support of the great people across the state of Wyoming and all of our volunteers and supporters. We've been able to succeed. Did Liz Cheney call you and congratulate you. How is the tone of that conversation? I haven't had an opportunity to visit with her. We have been kind of wrapped up in all of the stuff associated with what's going on downstairs with our watch party as you can imagine we have several hundred people downstairs ready to celebrate who've been celebrating and so I have not been able to even look at my phone, so I don't know if she's called or not. So I don't really have anything to report on that. Oh, that's interesting. Did you happen to hear that part of her speech was a continued vow Harriet to make sure Donald Trump never steps foot in The White House after what happened on January 6th. Which was not, I guess not surprising that she said that, but your reaction tonight. Well, again, I have not had an opportunity to even see or hear what she had to say because I've been kind of focused on what's going on here.
Amber Athey: People Like Liz Cheney Are Disposable
"Is there really a lane I mean amber this has been tried right The John Kasich model and others think that nobody cares that you're done with your usefulness for Democrats right You were only useful because you won on the January 6th committee in prime time and yelled and screamed at Donald Trump That's over now You're going to be out of Congress sir So the Democrats don't like you and Republicans outside unlike the Lenin project the fake Republicans over there with The Lincoln Project the pitot protectors over there They're nobody likes you on the Republican side either So seriously is there a lane for her and what could she possibly do besides be a grifter No these people are completely disposable and the cable news cycle and the pundits who work within it are incredibly short right This is a short term thing As soon as the politics moves beyond you you will be pushed off of the network You'll get one appearance here and there I mean they did this to the reporters by the way who were really aggressive against Trump in the briefing room And they all got book deals and they all got CNN contributor ships Like Brian Karim April Ryan Jim Acosta And what happened to all of them as soon as Trump was out of office April Ryan switched to a new outlet that nobody's ever heard of It hasn't been on CNN in like 6 months Brian Karam his entire magazine he worked for Playboy went underwater He's no longer on CNN Nobody in the briefer likes him Jim Acosta has a fledgling CNN show that nobody watches and is apparently going to be punished under the new ownership of CNN So it's just like these people You know they think that they're going to be famous because they completely sell their souls to try to win the approval of the left But the left is very fickle and these people will outlive their useless I think the same is true for Liz Cheney Alyssa Farah who's at the view now all of these people will have a creation date just around the corner
Amber Athey: Liz Cheney Didn't Campaign in Her State
"As I was saying there are a couple of reasons why Liz Cheney lost and one of which is of course the fact that she led the charge on this January 6th committee along with the Democrats to have been encouraging this witch hunt against former president Donald Trump but also was Cheney didn't campaign in her state She moved over there from Northern Virginia and then proceeded to completely ignore her constituents and was arrogant and narcissistic enough to think that her name alone was enough to get her elected and the fact that she would compare herself to Abraham Lincoln and then float the idea of wasting donor money on a presidential run is just further evidence of this narcissism My favorite part of her speech last night though was that she was standing in front of these bales of hay as if Liz Cheney is like the folksy small town hero for me And it was that final just piece of disrespect to the final slap in the face to the people who luckily voted her out of office because they saw through this complete sham
The Voters of Wyoming Shouted Against Liz Cheney
"There's nothing, there's no gray area here. The voters of Wyoming didn't just speak, they shouted. And what they shouted was that the January 6th select committee that Liz Cheney has been chairing is a scam. What they shouted is you can't live in Virginia and pretend to be from Wyoming. And be an inside the beltway establishment political hack. Who has become obsessively fixated on Donald Trump? And the fall of Liz Cheney is pretty astonishing.
Liz and the Beltway
"Top story today is coming from Wyoming where Liz Cheney is now Abraham Lincoln and Ulysses S. Grant all rolled up into one for losing a primary election. Wait a minute, let me check my notes on that. Abraham Lincoln and Ulysses grant for losing a primary election. Dwayne, these notes are terrible Dwayne. How is Liz Cheney Abraham Lincoln and Ulysses S. Grant for losing a primary election? Well, as our friend Kurt schlichter said on Twitter last night, after she compared herself to grant, he said, well, at least grant served. You know, it just, I think we talked about it a little bit to go off air, which is that concession speech is largely a good example of why she lost. It really is. I mean, and this is part of the beltway obsession, lecture series. I guess that Liz Cheney has been on for the past year and a half. I mean, almost the entire term that she's been sort of focused on this, and it's because January 6th, of course, took place at the very start of the term. So that's part of what this is what's going on here. But this is a person who's clearly lost touch with Wyoming. She is fully invested in what's going on in the beltway, and Wyoming voters that got a chance to weigh in on it. Yeah, yesterday. The takeaway is Wyoming voters don't care about the one 6th committee. They want to know about inflation. They want to know about the same issues that everybody else cares about. And she doesn't seem to give any voice to normal issues. There's only one issue with her. And they just got tired of it. Now
'The Big Fraud' Author Troy Nehls on the Hunter Biden Hypocrisy
"I'm back with congressman Troy nails. We are going to be talking in this segment and subsequent ones about his new book, the big fraud, which covers the election of 2020, covers January 6th, covers a bunch of other stuff. Are you worried, Troy, that however weak, the case, if they do make a case against Trump, and it could be on the basis of the insurrection, it could be on the basis of these documents, the espionage act, or the records act, that they will try to put it, they'll do a repeat of what they're doing with the January 6th defendants. They find a swamp judge they obviously have a corrupt prosecutorial operation. Now they have a bunch of D.C. jurors who are all leeching off the government. They're all left wing Democrats. They all hate Trump. And they're all blinded by sort of Trump derangement themselves. It's not hard to see that in this toxic environment. What you have is a kind of a show trial that has nothing to do with it goes back to sort of the show trials of socialist regimes in Cuba and so on. This one with the formal trappings of a fair trial, but given the environment, everybody knows that there's no attempt to look at the facts. I mean, this could be very dangerous for the country, don't you think? I think there is in what we see today is there's a two tiered justice system. With Donald Trump and the dishonest media in the far left, he's guilty until proven innocent. That's what this is. I mean, we're not talking about you've got pictures and video of Hunter Biden smoking crack cocaine. He has crack cocaine on video. He is, he is just, he's a bad man, and the left cover for him, the FBI, the DoJ. Come on, dinesh, if Hunter Biden's last name was hunter Trump, they would be saying that the Trump family's compromise, they need to go. Donald Trump, your families are disgrace. And they would call for Donald Trump to resign.
What Is the Root of Liz Cheney's Position? Rep. Troy Nehls Explains
"And back with congressman Troy nails, his new book is called the big fraud, what Democrats don't want you to know about January 6th to 2020 election and a whole lot else. Try we're talking about Liz Cheney and January 6th. Now the interesting thing to me about Liz Cheney is that she is not quite in the same camp as say a Murkowski or even a Romney because in those cases you've got someone who is ideologically moderate on some issues even left of center. Liz Cheney on the issues seems to be quite strongly right of center. But those issues seem to matter less to her than getting rid of Trump and in a sense validating the 2020 election, why do you think she is as a conservative taking this position? Do you think it's, is it opportunism? Is it that Trump insulted the Cheney family? What do you think is the root of it? Because you met her, you've seen her up close. What do you think is driving her? I think she underestimated Donald Trump after the 2020 election, she said, listen, we've gone through impeachment want impeachment to now we've got the insurrection and so now you have the January 6th sham committee. She should never once she should have never accepted to be on that committee. But she underestimated Donald Trump. She thought that after January 6th, that Donald Trump would just fade away and go away. They're thinking, we can not ever allow this guy to come back. And so she just kind of rolled the dice. She's thinking Donald Trump is going to disappear forever because the Republican Party will not accept the guy like that. There are other, there are many in the Republican Party that obviously don't support Donald Trump and shame on them because I think we didn't have the crisis as we have today under Donald Trump. So I think she thought that she would be able to destroy him with her role on that January 6th committee and now she's figured out, oh my goodness gracious, the opposite has happened.
Congressman Troy Nehls Shares His Reaction to Liz Cheney's Defeat
"Let's start if we can draw with the with the news of the day. Liz Cheney. Now, I gotta say, you know, Debbie and I were talking this morning and Debbie goes, she goes, I don't even know how she got 30% of the vote. But I said, Debbie, wait a minute. You have a woman who has been elected three times. She got what 80% last time. She is a part of a dynastic family, the Cheney family, kind of like the McCain's in Arizona. And she's probably over time met almost all of our constituents. So this woman has gone to great lengths to offend her own constituency. Talk about your reaction to the race and a little bit of why somebody might do that. Well, thank you for having me. First, I couldn't be more excited to see Liz Cheney get fired from her position. I mean, I am very, very upset with the way Liz Cheney has handled herself over the last few years, especially as it related to a former president Trump as it relates to impeachment. You know, she was one of those and now 8 out of ten of those that voted for impeachment are not coming back. So I think that this is a true, it just lets the American people know when the Republican Party know that Donald Trump is the leader of our party and when you go out there and you belittle him each and every day as she has done on this January 6th committee, she needed to go. I don't think that Republican Party has done enough. I think we should have kicked her out of our conference for belittling Donald Trump as much as she has. So I think when you go up against the leader of our party and you say those derogatory things for the past several years, I think the voters spoke loud and clear. They said we don't want Liz Cheney back with the establishment we need to fight back in the establishment hasn't done that. And it's the mega movement.
What to know about Harriet Hageman, Liz Cheney's opponent in Wyoming GOP primary
"Liz Cheney concedes to Harriet hagerman a Republican congressional candidate backed by former president Donald Trump Wyoming Republican representative Liz Cheney loses a GOP primary to Harriet hagman a lawyer backed by former president Donald Trump After conceding the race Cheney told supporters now the real work begins The three term member of Congress and co chair the January 6th committee says former president Trump and his allies at the national state and local levels are a threat to the nation If we do not condemn the conspiracies and the lies if we do not hold those responsible to account we will be excusing this conduct and it will become a feature of all elections America will never be the same Cheney adding I have said since January 6th that I will do whatever it takes to ensure Donald Trump is never again anywhere near the Oval Office And I mean it I'm
How Do We 'Lower the Temperature'?
"People are wondering, how do we solve this? How do we lower the temperature? Even Donald Trump has come out and said, we need to lower the temperature right now. It's getting too crazy. The temperature is not going to lower itself. The other side, they are foaming at the mouth, just almost with strange possession. Wanting to remove anybody in the orbit of Donald Trump, the America first movement, whether it be Peter Navarro, Steve Bannon, raiding Rudy Giuliani, raiding James O'Keefe, it is a full out Soviet style purge. KGB style. Now, Republicans are quick to complain about it. Wow, this is terrible. This is really awful. Why are we letting this happen? Good question why are you letting this happen? People are kind of wondering what's the kind of the game plan forward? How do we go about solving it? Well, let's first broaden this. This is not just about the Department of Justice going after Donald Trump. No, you see Democrats, they know how to use power so appropriately. And they're not going to stop because of a bunch of Republican press releases. Look at all the different verticals they're using against Donald Trump. New York State civil inquiry. The Manhattan criminal case, the Georgia criminal inquiry. The Westchester county criminal investigation, the Washington D.C. lawsuit, January 6th inquiry, and also the Department of Justice investigation.
"january. 6th" Discussed on The Economist: The Intelligence
"Something like this happening again, you mentioned earlier that one of the purposes of this committee was to try to lay out a criminal case against him. Do you think after what we saw last night that president Trump is any closer to being indicted, whether that's by a court in Florida or whether by the Justice Department? I think the probability is certainly gone up. We know that the Department of Justice is looking at the evidence that the committee has been finding, but it will be a difficult prosecution, both in terms of actually proving certain kinds of crimes. But also the fact that the president of prosecuting a former president, this is a huge hurdle for them to leap over. I've been personally quite interested in the ongoing grand jury investigation that's happening in Fulton county in Georgia over the president's attempt to basically solicit the overturning of the election there. That seems to me to be much more cut and dry case than the theory that's being advanced here, which is that the president should have known that his wars would incite his action and basically that his inaction is not calling the military the law enforcement soon enough constituted what the phrase that kept going back to was a dereliction of duty, but of course the issue is that it's hard to translate that into an exact crime that is being violated and it's
"january. 6th" Discussed on The Economist: The Intelligence
"Time television last night, witnesses gave excruciating accounts of the hours spent by former president Donald Trump after the riots started, but before he called them off. We also remind you of what was happening at the capitol minute by minute as the final violent tragic part of Donald Trump's scheme, the cling to power, unravel. I was disturbed and worried to see that the president was attacking vice president Pence for doing his constitutional duty. I remember thinking that this was going to be bad for him to tweet this because it was essentially him giving the green light to these people, telling them that what they were doing at the steps of the capitol and entering the capitol was okay that they were justified in their anger. The committee showed that in the immediate aftermath of the attacks, president Trump couldn't bring himself to denounce the violence. This was a fraudulent election. But we can't play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. So go home. We love you. You're very special. Last night was the commission's 8th public hearing. Initially, it was intended to be the last. But before it began, Liz Cheney, the committee's Republican vice chair, announced there would be more starting in September. Even so, the hearings leave little doubt about who the committee believes bears ultimate responsibility for the violence that day. Last night's hearing by the January 6th committee, summarized the case that has been made so far against Donald Trump for his actions ahead of the attack on the capitol. Is The Economist Washington correspondent. This hearing focused principally on the president's actions for the three hours between when he gave a speech. And when he finally gave word that the riot ought to end. What we did see was a blow by blow accounting of what the president was doing or really what he wasn't doing as his mom was taking over. He wasn't in touch with the military. He wasn't in touch with law enforcement. And that is despite the repeated counsel from people in The White House to try to get him to make a statement. And even when he did, what we saw from the full footage of him trying to give the speech was that he couldn't help himself from giving messages of love and support for the people who were presently attacking the capitol and trying to kill his vice president. And how successful have these hearings been? I mean, have they done what they were intended to do? These hearings have actually been fairly successful in not only capturing attention, but in presenting a strong case against the president. What they have done really well has taken a story that we all witnessed that felt quite familiar and added an incredible amount of detail. And this is committee so far seems to have had two purposes. One is to lay out the breadcrumbs for a possible prosecution and the second is to convince Republicans who have by and large stuck with Donald Trump to abandon him. And we saw that explicitly in the closing statements made by Liz Cheney and Adam kinzinger, the two Republicans who were on the committee. Donald Trump knows that millions of Americans who supported him would stand up and defend our nation were it threatened. It would put their lives and their freedom at stake to protect her. And he is praying on their patriotism. He is praying on their sense of justice. And on January 6th, Donald Trump turned their love of country into a weapon against our capital and our constitution. You mentioned one of the thrusts of these public hearings was to add detail to a story that we already knew what sorts of details did we learn tonight that we may not have known before or that we didn't fully understand before. I think tonight was much more of an encapsulation of the material that might have been covered in the last 7 hearings that many Americans might not have tuned into. We learned small details like where the president was sitting, what he was watching. But over the course of the hearings, we have learned new things. We've learned of the full extent of the pressure that was placed on the vice president to essentially usurp his constitutional duty to affirm the election results, which is what the president was pushing him to do. We learned of simultaneous effort by the president and some of his supporters to pressure state legislators into overturning their election results. And we learned quite a bit more about the attempt to remove the attorney general in place a much more pliant Department of Justice official who is firmly on the stop the steal side of things. And we saw one thing that has become abundantly clear from these hearings is the extent to which only a few good men and good women stood in the way of an even more severe constitutional crisis than we experienced. Were there any specific interchanges any moments, any images from last night that really stuck with you? Certainly, the president stumbling over his lines, the day after January 6th, being unable to admit that the election was over, refusing to say that. That's just a lack of shame and sense of national consciousness that maybe might not surprise people, but it's nonetheless stunning to witness for yourself. The other, the committee seems to have had particular antipathy for Josh Holly, who's the senator from Missouri, and they made a point of embarrassing him by pointing out that before the ride began, he proudly held his fist up to the protesters who were gathered outside of the capitol. As you can see in this photo, he raised his fist and solidarity with the protesters, already amassing at the security gates. Later that day, senator hawley fled after those protesters, he helped to rile up, stormed the capitol. See for yourself. Afterwards, they showed video footage of him jogging away at a quick pace from the oncoming protesters, so they seemed to have wanted to score a hit there. And I think that they have. Those are the two moments that immediately come to mind. You mentioned earlier that this was supposed to be the last hearing, but it won't be. And Liz Cheney when she announced there would be future hearings used to sort of cryptic phrase. She said the dam has begun to break. What do you think that means as far as where the committee goes after this? What do you expect the future, the future work of the committee to focus on? So I don't know for sure, but one thing that we've seen over the course of these hearings is that they have had a snowballing effect in terms of getting people who had previously not been willing to testify to actually come forward. We saw that with pat cipollone, who was The White House counsel whose testimony was played several times, and there could be more people like that who come forward. The second is that the committee has also been fighting legal challenges to its subpoenas to some parties close to Donald Trump that they've been interested in, including Steve Bannon and Mark Meadows, and it could be the case that they believe that within a month or so, they will actually be able to compel testimony out of people who had been previously unwilling to deliver it. But that's just my speculation. I don't know for sure. Let's switch gears for a bit the other big news. Sort of related to the 2020 election and to electoral administration that came out of Washington this week was that a bipartisan group of senators had worked on an update to the electoral count act. Can you just tell us briefly what that act does and what the update does? So the electoral count act was passed more than a hundred years ago and basically establishes the procedure by which the Congress and the vice president essentially ratify the election results and everyone agrees that that law was fairly poorly drafted and quite ambiguous for a long time. This was treated as a sort of ceremonial oddity. No one had ever thought to exploit it to try to keep power. So fixing the electoral count act is actually probably the most significant fix to American voting laws that could be attempted. And it's taken a long time, but this week we learned that bipartisan deal had been struck between Democrats like Joe Manchin being one of them and Republicans like Susan Collins, which would essentially clarify the role of the vice president and limit the sort of constitutional ambiguity that had created so much Discord. So basically, you close off the possibility of
"january. 6th" Discussed on CNN Political Briefing
"What you need to know in politics for Thursday, June 9th. So these hearings will be a chance for the country to come together. To rally around the truth and unite around the rule of law. The January 6th House select committee is holding its first public hearing in prime time tonight. What can we expect? Lawmakers on the House select committee investigating the January 6th insurrection are taking their case for the first time to the court of public opinion. That is where they are going to try and bring all the evidence to bear against former president Trump, his inner circle, and other entities that were involved in the attempt to subvert the will of the American people by overturning a legitimate election of Joe Biden as president, as well as attack the very Citadel of our democracy, the United States Capitol. The committee has conducted over 1000 interviews over the span of the last ten months, and now they are going to try and piece together a compelling narrative that can break through sort of all the noise out there and capture the attention of the American people starting tonight in prime time and what the committee hopes will be basically a series of hearings over the course of the month of June to give the complete story of what happened in the lead up to the 6th on the 6th and what threats to our democracy presented at that time still exist very much today. So much has already emerged, right? We've talked a lot on this podcast about the text messages, specifically that a former chief of staff, Mark Meadows, we've talked a lot about the conversations that we knew Donald Trump was having with people around him on January 6th, and yet the committee has promising new material. There will be new material presented to the American public. So how much does that sort of break through on the news Richter scale? Are they going to over promise and under deliver? Because that's always a no no in politics. But they are indeed promising quite a bit. So it's going to have to live up to the hype that the committee has put out there. And what is there to learn? Well, the questions that remain, what was Donald Trump doing or not doing as the violence at the capitol was unfolding, on the 6th, were president Trump and others planning a capital riot in advance of the 6th, and just how far did president Trump push his Department of Justice or state election officials to actually overturn the election. We know bits and pieces of each of these things, but what the committee hopes is it's going to present the definitive and what it hopes is a compelling narrative for the American people. According to the committee chairman Benny Thompson, who previewed the hearings for reporters, he said to expect to see some videotaped interviews from the depositions of individuals that have been charged already for their actions on January 6th, perhaps like the Proud Boys leader Enrique tarrio also we are expecting to see some of those depositions of Trump White House officials, including perhaps Trump family members. Now, Thompson wasn't willing to give away the store, he was still saying a lot is a work in progress and many things are still under consideration, but clearly there is an anticipation and an expectation that the committee is going to reveal both in video deposition in testimony on camera, as well as in video clips of the events of the 6th itself. So some of that violence, they are going to present this in as sort of a television friendly way as possible. This is why they brought on the former president of ABC News, James goldston to basically produce a program here. Think more in the line of like what the Republicans and Democrats do every four years around their national conventions. It's that kind of programming that the committee is trying to put together here that is produced and presented in such a packaged way to the American people to be an airtight case of how the committee believes the events of January 6th, unfolded. As for witnesses who will provide testimony, we are told to expect that we will see a documentary filmmaker who interacted with the Proud Boys on the eve of the insurrection and on the day of, as well as a capitol police officer who was injured in the attack. We've also learned that in future hearings, Georgia Secretary of State, Brad raffensperger, is going to be a witness in one of the future hearings that the committee plans to hold in the coming weeks. You remember him, of course. He was the one where Donald Trump, on January 2nd of 2021, placed a phone call to the Secretary of State of Georgia and said this. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,000 780 votes, which is one more that we have because we won the state. CNN has previously reported that former acting attorney general Jeffrey Rosen and his then deputy have been invited by the committee to testify during one of these public hearings in June as well, those were some of the folks you may recall who really held the line and protected the institution from being just overrun by Trump and his allies desire to overturn the election. Now, you know, this committee has two Republicans, Liz Cheney and Adam kinzinger, so it is bipartisan, technically, but it has been completely driven by the Democrats, Pelosi, the speaker appointed, all of the folks to this committee, and that's because Kevin McCarthy sort of took his ball and ran away. And the Republicans will be eager those that are aligned with Donald Trump like McCarthy to paint this entire series of hearings as a purely partisan and political bit of stagecraft. Here he was earlier today. It is the most political and least legitimate committee in American history. It is used congressional subpoenas to attack Republicans, violate due process and infringe on the political speech of private citizens. It has permanently damaged the house and divided this country. The biggest challenge, the biggest problem, the biggest obstacle for the committee is.
"january. 6th" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show
"Let's first play cut 78. But unlike after the 9 11 attacks, the greatest threat is now from domestic terror groups and radicalized, often racially motivated, violent extremists. American must be vigilant and identifying tracking and thwarting groups in individuals who don't share our values and seek to do us in our nation harm. Domestic terrorism prevention act gives our government important tools to do just that DTP aims to improve the federal government's prevention reporting response and investigation of domestic terrorism by authorizing offices in each of the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation. These offices will monitor investigate and prosecute cases of domestic terrorism. If he wants to create a whole new mandate and division of the federal government to go after political opponents that he didn't like. Now, of course, no one in that party wanted something similar with the BLM riots or Floyd palooza, which were far more deadly, far more dangerous than anything that we saw on January 6th. But it's all intentional. And CNN, of course, is leaning right into this. Cut 58. This is them dramatically laying out their long plan to commemorate January 6th because they do want January 6th to get into the Pantheon of dates that turned history. They want it to be remembered like December 7th. Or 9 11. They wanted to be remembered more than the day that Kennedy was shot. Play cut 58. And to all of our viewers, thanks very much for joining us as CNN special coverage of the anniversary of the January 6th insurrection continues all day. I'll be back by the way at 6 p.m. eastern in the situation room will be live from the U.S. capitol and later tonight, please join Jake tapper and Anderson Cooper for a truly unprecedented gathering inside the U.S. capitol right after a quick break. Now, when you listen to that music and then I say they're trying to beat the drums of war, sure sounds like they're actually beating the drums of war, doesn't it? What does that remind me of? It reminds me of you know what? I know, The Hunger Games. It sounds like the drums that they would play when katniss everdeen would be announced. The drums of war. Okay, you got a bunch of soccer moms walking into the capitol. They're using it as an opportunity. It's increasingly obvious. But it's very dangerous. Now, I don't think that this is resonating at all with the American people. American people have this is a very, very low priority, but it's still incredibly important because if we do not effectively tell the true story what happened on January 6th, then their mandate will go uninterrupted. Then it'll just be another one of those votes that they have on Capitol Hill like the stop Asian hate Bill or whatever. We're up next thing you know, there's a whole division of the Department of Justice that can police speech in the Senate votes for at 97 to nothing. It's not insignificant. Mayorkas, who's the head of Department of Homeland Security, says that ideologies of hate false information of false narratives are primary sources to the threat landscape that we confront the United States, cut 48. I think there are a number of things at play, Jake. Ideologies of hate false information false narratives are primary sources of the threat landscape that we confront in the United States today. The divisiveness in our country is really fueling it as well. And there's a very important additional element. Words matter. And this goes to the issue of false narratives, of false information. Not only that, they're trying to broaden it now to political speech. Let's get to a tape here and it's really.
"january. 6th" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show
"Liz Cheney. Same people. Broaden broaden what is Chuck Schumer do? No, no, no. It's not about domestic violent extremists, this new term they gave us, it's not just about, you know, people that get really excited and they do war games in their backyard, the oath keepers, they are the Proud Boys or whatever. No, no, no. It's about anyone who questions our elections. And this is where they're going to be in a really tough spot and it just made sense to me last night. I kind of had this moment where it all came together. Play cut 52. And make no mistake. The root cause of January 6th is still with us today. It is the big lie pushed by Donald Trump. That is undermining faith in our political system. And making our democracy, our country, less safe. But without addressing the root causes of the violence. On January 6th, the insurrection will not be an aberration. It could well become the norm. Root causes. What else did they use that language? Oh yeah, you know what the root cause is? 9 11 happened because teenagers in Afghanistan don't have access to clean water. That was the argument they made. It's laughable now that we look back at it, obviously. But this is one of the great the fact that these people get away with it. So Schumer says, we have to pass voting rights legislation. Because black people can't vote. And the next day he comes out and says, it's a big lie that there's anything wrong with our election system. Which one is it Schumer? Chuck Schumer comes out and he says, it's the big lie. It's the big lie from Donald Trump. Meanwhile, if you don't pass our voting rights legislation, you're a racist. Wait a second. So I want you to listen carefully. This is Schumer pushing for voting rights legislation. That we need to change our election system. I thought our elections were so robust, and so safe, and so secure. Remember when they said that after the 2020 election, this was the safest, most secure election ever. If that's the case, why do you need to change our voting laws? If everything was perfect in the 2020 election, what are you trying to change? Play 26. Voting rights in the past was a bipartisan issue. How quickly they forget Republican presidents, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, George W. Bush, supported voting rights when voting rights extensions came up in this body in the past. They passed by large majorities, bipartisan, the resistance we see from modern day Republicans is a beast of an entirely different nature. Maybe some of them are scared of Trump, but too many of them see this as a way to win advantage. To get their hard right views enacted, even though the public doesn't support them. By jaundice, our election process. And saying, and putting barriers in the way of particular people, not all people of voting, people of color. Poor people. People who live in big cities. Young people. Handicapped people, elderly people. As I said in my dear colleague earlier this week, if Republicans continue to hijack the rules of the chamber to prevent action on something as critical as protecting our democracy, then the Senate will debate and consider changes to the rules, honor before January 17th, Martin Luther King Jr. day. Voting laws are one of the things I want to change. Voting laws are one of the things that they want to use the date of January 6th as a mandate to change. I just am failing to see in what world are those connected? So you have some guy that probably needs some psychiatric help and some counseling who thinks he's a Star Wars character who storms the U.S. Senate and somehow that has something to do with the John Lewis Voting Rights Act? It's more and more clear as we look at the dates that have changed history the last hundred years, they want January 6th be part of it. But guess what? It's falling really flat..
"january. 6th" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show
"Play cut 55. Certain dates echo throughout history. Dates that occupy, not only a place on our calendars. But a place in our collective memory. December 7th, 1941. September 11th, 2001. And January 6th, 2021. Those dates mean change. Kamala Harris is saying out loud that, hey, there's now a reference point. We have a mandate to change things. 9 11 gave us department a Homeland Security the Iraq War in 20 years in Afghanistan. Pearl Harbor gave us an invasion, not an invasion, but a two front war in Europe and in the Pacific and an atom bomb developed and Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Battle of Iwo Jima the storming of Normandy beach. And eventually the Marshall plan and a Cold War and for camela Harris and the regime's purposes she spot on. She spot on in the sense that they do want the same sort of structural and permanent historical change. Post January 6th that we saw 9 11 that we saw post the assassination of JFK that we saw the post assassination of the archduke Franz Ferdinand. Though he saw post 2008 financial crisis. So what kind of change do they actually want? What kind of catalyst are they looking for? What is the game that they're trying to institute? Let's play some more sound here. Merrick Garland, who is the department of just the head of the Department of Justice, the attorney general of the United States has been saying that this is the most ambitious, greatest domestic manhunt in the history of our country. Let's go to cut 50 where he says the actions we have taken will not be our last. We remain committed to hold all the perpetrated account of what any level accountable under the law. That sounds like a purge. It sounds like a Bolshevik versus the menshevik moment. We'll get into that history later on in the show. Play cut 50. The actions we have taken thus far will not be our last, the Justice Department remains committed to holding all January 6th perpetrators at any level accountable under law. Whether they were present that day or were otherwise criminally responsible for the assault on our democracy. We will follow the facts.
"january. 6th" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show
"So in a major event happens, like January 6th, it is, we should expect the other side to try to capitalize on that. Now, a lot of people are attacking Kamala Harris for comparing January 6th to the Attack on Pearl Harbor in 9 11, which of course is patently insane. They said it was a deadly attack on the capitol. The only deaths actually that occurred at the capitol was Ashley babbitt. The death of officer Brian cyclic was not at all, they said it was a fire extinguisher that had that was not true. But I want to take a different take here. We could mock Kamala Harris and talk about the death tolls and the differences. Okay, 3000 people died at 9 11, but I want to take a different tack because for her purposes for the purposes of the regime, this absolutely was a Pearl Harbor moment. Play cut 55. Certain dates echo throughout history. Dates that occupy, not only a place on our calendars. But a place in our collective memory. December 7th, 1941. September 11th, 2001. And January 6th, 2021. Those dates mean change. Kamala Harris is saying out loud that, hey, there's now a reference point. We have a mandate to change things. 9 11 gave us department a Homeland Security the Iraq War in 20 years in Afghanistan. Pearl Harbor gave us an invasion, not an invasion, but a two front war in Europe and in the Pacific and an atom bomb developed and Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Battle of Iwo Jima the storming of Normandy beach. And eventually the Marshall plan and a Cold War and for camela Harris and the regime's purposes she spot
"january. 6th" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show
"What happens. Today I want to tell you about hillsdale's free monthly speech digestive liberty. It's called them primus. It's amazing. And oh my goodness, Connor, we should tell people we should have it on our website. Hillsdale's in primus, the January 6 article they did back. Remember that in October by roger Kimball. It was excellent and it shows the type of institution hillsdale colleges. The fact hillsdale college was willing to publish the roger Kimball article as the front page there in primus. Winners. Over 6 million households and businesses receive in primus for free each month, and you can join them by subscribing at Charlie F OR hillsdale dot com. No strings attached, generous donors who love freedom make it possible for hillsdale to send in primus to you for free. And primus is one of my favorite publications when I get it, I read through it thoroughly. It's short, smart and useful and fun. Start receiving your own free copy of this great digestive liberty by going to Charlie for hillsdale dot com. That's Charlie, F OR hillsdale dot com. So in a major event happens, like January 6th, it is, we should expect the other side to try to capitalize on that. Now, a lot of people are attacking Kamala Harris for comparing January 6th to the Attack on Pearl Harbor in 9 11, which of course is patently insane. They said it was a deadly attack on the capitol. The only deaths actually that occurred at the capitol was Ashley babbitt. The death of officer Brian cyclic was not at all, they said it was a fire extinguisher that had that was not true. But I want to take a different take here. We could mock Kamala Harris and talk about the death tolls and the differences. Okay, 3000 people died at 9 11, but I want to take a different tack because for her purposes for the purposes of the regime, this absolutely was a Pearl Harbor moment..
"january. 6th" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show
"Hey everybody, on a longer episode of the Charlie Kirk show, we dive into events that have changed the American way of life. Major changes do not happen on their own. And on this anniversary of January 6th, we talk about how they're trying to create January 6 and a Pearl Harbor for a very specific reason. We go into that in great detail. Make sure you listen to the sister episode we have with this. We have two sister episodes with Ben white garten and also our sister episode with Darren beattie. Encourage you guys to check it out and to subscribe to the Charlie Kirk show podcast. You guys, if you are not yet subscribed, make sure you're subscribed at your friends to do the same. If you want to get involved with turning point USA, the nation's largest organization that exists to pass down American values to future generations, go to TP, USA dot com that's TP USA dot com. If you want to support our show, we're building a new studio or expanding our operation in the new year. It's Charlie Kirk dot com slash support. Text this episode to your friends, especially your liberal ones and ask them to listen to it. It might be a lot of fun because it's very factual and I think it'll open a lot of eyes. Buckle up everybody here. We go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's run in The White House folks. I want to thank Charlie, he's an incredible guy, his spirit his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, turning point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries destroyed lives and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Brought to you by the lone experts I trust, Andrew and Todd at Sierra Pacific mortgage at Andrew and Todd dot com. Major changes don't happen on their own. Major changes to a constitution to a country to a system does not just happen because it's a Thursday in April. We as conservatives are conservatives because we understand what should be preserved and conserved and were willing to fight, say no so that certain things can remain the same. Now, not everything that is old is good. This is one of the things that I debate with on some people that are with call themselves traditional conservatives. They say Charlie, what is all that isn't good? How about murder? How about communicable diseases? Not everything that's old is necessarily good, but there are some things that are old that are beautiful, like the family. Like religion, like a belief and a higher eternal order, things like that. But major changes happen when you have a mandate. Some of the major changes in American history almost always have events correlating with them. Changes and events go hand in glove. It's like the old expression that a man and woman go together in marriage like a horse and carriage. It's an event and a change must happen through a catalyst. It doesn't naturally occur. So let's.
"january. 6th" Discussed on The Politics Guys
"Can i remember we were on a three. We were having a show between you and me and mike and originally kristen was supposed to be on as well and it just ended up being the three of us and you kind of acquiesced that were you know we're all keynesians now and We'll continue guy said maybe we're all we're all modern modern monitoring. Yeah effectively is is keynesian theory. Now i might be the only holdout left on this show. So i'm curious though do you do. Are you taking that view or are you still a modern. I mean so. Do you think that the keynesian policies still or you know. Has this year brought you over at the classical. I'm view very much. Still the take the classical view. I think the in saying that. I wasn't saying that i hadn't necessarily switch sides but now the only side the left to be on. Okay i misunderstood you. I'm not saying no. I think that modern monetary monetary policy is great idea or that works and i anticipate that i'll be proven right within the next year But but yeah. My comment was more aimed to say. That looks like that's the only game in town these days so i got you won't before we move onto our next story j. We're gonna need to take a quick break okay. So you know the the last thing that we want to take on the show today can because we're going to run out of time at to put more things into the bonus show that the way it is. We wanted to talk a little bit about kind of the current state of covy cova the deltoid and of course this week biden suggesting hundred dollar payments for the unvaccinated to get vaccinated and so was just kind of curious. What your what you kind of saw briefly on that front so yeah briefly and again. This is sort of a big topic and you and i kicked around. If there's there's a lot of little things to talk about right and rather than than one one big one. I would say in the news. There's some evidence that back. Vaccinations have ticked up in the south in the midwest following sort of this the the spread of the delta variant now whether that is is because of people are more concerned about it now or they're getting pressure from friends and family or they have just finally given up whatever objections that they may have had..
"january. 6th" Discussed on The Politics Guys
"But i think it's it's a much bigger deal now because we are coming in a couple of years of historic spending i've been pointing out on the show Repeatedly just a couple of the earlier stimulus packages were in their entirety larger than we normally spend an entire fiscal year. So the the fact that we're continuing to have these Spendings packages they're going to have ramifications going to have ramifications so even before you drill down into the details of of of what it could or or isn't going to do the thing that we do know that it's going to do is that it's going to increase inflationary Trends especially as the fed continues to keep interest rates near zero while simultaneously we have supply excuse me supply-side production issues. And and so you those things all together and i think one of the problems both for republicans and for democrats who've come together on this bill is. They are thinking of this in terms of normal year and not in terms of a year in which we have already spent the stimulus packages again more than we normally would have spent in a fiscal year. And therefore i know one of the things that Ken and mike will argue is as well. It won't the effects will be minimal. Well my answer is is that i'm not positive the effects because we've never quite has such a big year before if we've noticed these kinds of historic precedents precedents suggest that in the past. It's hard for me to think. Well i'll even larger one isn't going to have an effect in the current especially again. We have other structural things going on. That weren't the same. I e the fed rate bureau and supply-side issues. So the macro-level that's that's that's my the beginning salvo. No i think. I think you and i are exactly on the same page on on this Use be back during the obama administration There were there were serious qualms about you know getting close to the one trillion dollar number. Because that was those people is crazy. You can't spend a trillion dollars and now we're dropping trillions right and left and you've got another three and a half trillion coming down the pike From what the house wants to do. So yeah i absolutely believe this is going to be inflationary. Mike and i have something of a wager. He thinks inflation will still be around the base To percents What it all evens out by by december..
"january. 6th" Discussed on The Politics Guys
"I guess that's that's that's where i'm coming from as well what's to be done with them. And that's the fundamental problem thing. We might even deal within the bonus. I mean that's one of the questions that i always thought was kind of profound. It's not one that. I've explored as scholar personally but in graduate school kind of set up in one that i present students is is an election. To overturn democracy. Democratic right is kind of it's a classic conundrum. And so i your i. Think your answer's kind of playing into that to the extent to saying if there's lots of people who don't want to have a democratic republic anymore and they're going to vote for people who are going to undo it. How does that fit into a role of you. I think that's a big question. I recognize those people exist and at one of the reasons that i haven't wholesale abandoned. The republican party is because i hope that we can. We can shove those individuals out right. We can either. There were pushed out. But i don't my concern. Is that i think that. What gives me heartburn on a continual basis is is that i think really what's happening is they're succeeding in pushing. Maybe me maybe you out and and what's in that we don't really have that place anymore. And i and oftentimes i have worried. I've looked carefully in thought and considered in prayed about. We'll do. I really have a place in the republican party today and in more and more frequently. If i'm being really honest the answer is the whenever space was available to me is quickly is quickly leaving. I don't think i'm winning that position. So i i think you're right. There's millions of people disagree it. And that gives me some heartburn. For for what. I considered to be my party. What no believe me. i feel the same On a lot of fronts. But i'm taking this from a a bigger issue. Not as you know registered republican report and i guess maybe more of a conservative. And i say this to mike. Sometimes it's look at some point. You're either you're either okay with self government or you're not and self-government necessarily means you gotta deal with the crazies and they get to have a voice crazy as they are and the the whole idea of of sort of liberal democracy the western vision. I guess right is that look if you allow everybody. The freedom to speak to operate argue eventually. You're gonna get those crazies out. Not all the time as lincoln said you'd be a cancel some of the people all the time and some of the people all the time but you get to the point where you're diminishing returns right. You're just not going to have that that that massive movement you're not always going to have a trump to lead it And look at what happened in texas. Where the trump candidate Got got beaten fairly convincingly in a republican primary. So what if a if a trump if trumps supported candidate loses a republican primary in texas. i mean you can start to say well maybe maybe we have passed peak trump at this point back to your question there and then maybe we'll need to move forward a use me and then we're gonna.
"january. 6th" Discussed on The Politics Guys
"Really those kinds of things would bring people to their senses. Nobody by the time we got to the end of four years of trump would would have been taking any of that trump stuff seriously right but obviously they did so. I i guess. I wish that i can say yes j. I think you're right if we if we just give these guys long enough airtime. They're eventually going to discredit themselves. But now we're four and a half year or more if you consider the you know the election time of prompting a world. Let's say six years into that and and and it doesn't appear to me that additional crazy evidence. I in other words the pillow guy showing up. I don't think we do anything other than potentially kind of solidified on people's position rather than switching them more so there's always going to be that that core group out there who aren't going to change their mind but i i think if you interviewed i don't know and again pulling is is difficult on these types questions most republicans and again. There are so many different questions as to do believe the election was stolen. I do not believe the election was stolen. Do you believe There was fraud Yes i do. Because there's always and in all sorts of elections was it of a magnitude effect the result. No of course not were there steps taken by various states or or county board of elections that i find really troubling absolutely that ought to be looked into again do those invalidate the election. No so i mean. I think you can. You can perceive both ways that that say look. We have electoral issues. There are reasons to be concerned about some of the procedures and policies. That were that happened in in various states at the same time acknowledging. It didn't change the result. That doesn't mean we don't look into potential trouble because maybe it might be worse next time But i so so going back to this. I mean the generous six committee while the election. The election is a tangential issue to it. That's not what the committee is is there to determine. How did this happen under your rationale. I mean what. What committee could. Jim jordan irvan. Well anyway. I mean to be frank. I mean if i was in his district my answer would be naive for me. Of course. he's not my congress person so i don't get to make that determination. His district does But if he was mine my answer would be. I would have to vote. No from every time because i i don't think he wouldn't be qualified. I think that. I think that disqualifies him from the public trust and i would not be able to vote for an individual who had Who had in. The second instance continued to vote to not recognize the electoral college. Vote and and and great. They're millions of people who voted the other way. That's in what i mean..
"january. 6th" Discussed on The Politics Guys
"I can appreciate that is been. Why would it be surprising. That that one's particular like jordan and banks who were vehement in their of support and then didn't continue to vote no might not be great choices to be on. The i mean doesn't that potentially even based on that logic there makes sense. Well no because the the idea of the committee is to say we want a trustworthy believable. partisan results Panel this really going to look at all the issues Then why wouldn't you include jim jordan. Because he clearly was corrupt in his vote and already on. This particular issue clearly was biased. Otherwise he wouldn't have voted as horrendous erroneously. Did i. I guess if you wanna have a legitimate if the complaint is the system is rigged okay with what it this way. If the complained that the system is rigged democrats rig the system and the national goal of this is to get to the bottom of what actually happened. How how were these. People motivated to storm the capitol. How did they get in. How did we miss the intelligence on this was the response adequate. Were they're communications between the executive and congress relating to this Yeah let's let's have that conversation but the idea that well we're not going to allow any possible dissenters into that conversation. We're not going to allow them to ask questions that that sort of tells you that the is rigged. If if you you have high confidence and look democrats have a majority on the committee they. They're they control the chairman if you have a high degree of confidence On this than than certainly. I think you you'll let the other side in it just it just speaks to having sort of a fixed fight. If you're going to say well look. We're we're going to have a completely impartial view of this and Look at it from all sides but not that side but is that really undermines there really assigned that that wants to ignore evidence. I guess my problem here. When i'm trying to push on a little bit day in my mind there have been some republicans now because of the positions they've taken they're not really on a side. I don't know what they are..
"january. 6th" Discussed on The Politics Guys
"Certainly no court would have said that The the election is now goes to trump welcome ended. They didn't vote. trump won. Just because that's simply not how it works. I mean he had received the president biden and receive the requisite electoral votes. Electoral college had voted. He's the president. I mean that's that's just the way so i guess that to me you know. So much of this is political theater. And that's not to say that what happened on january. Sixth wasn't terrible horrific and we ought to take a look at it. But i guess my my first criticism while a couple want want is that this narrative was that this was really an attempt to overthrow the government. And i just i just i don't i'm not buying that Again it was it was certainly obstruction of government processes obstruction of congress. Look the fact that of all these folks who have been arrested and charged in many of pled. I don't believe any of them. Have been convicted of causing insurrection. Or or sedition or any of those of were overthrow the government. It's been trespassing disorderly conduct. It's been those More garden variety of fences. Some of them up to felony advances. So that's that's where i'm coming on that. The second thing that i guess bugs me a little bit is. I'm not sure exactly. What the commission's purposes if not just to claim political passions What is it that we're trying to find out that we didn't know now. We you know for example. The testimony that we heard earlier this week. While you're right it certainly was emotional. Shirtless compelling it tended to just add more heat than light in as far as how this happened. Why it happened. The subpoena thing. I think is interesting. If there there are in fact such communications that would be a huge deal. I i rather suspect that The communications that do exist are going to be Not not as shocking is as democrats trying to make them out to be now but the other piece..
"january. 6th" Discussed on Ron Paul Liberty Report
"Where thomas caldwell faces a long prison term for what he did so over and over. You see this whole thing. we don't. We're not allowed to see the videos. But as you suggested early on senator. Johnson who's taking a lot of heat who can't get hardly any senators to sign up for his investigation. He's a chairman of the senate investigations. Permit senate senate investigations can. He's told his staff. I want you to look at this video. He's allowed to see it. I want you to look at this video very closely and see what you can find out. And he's already found out some interesting things we know julie kelley who've we've had on the show who's been the most dogged reporter actual reporter in america. That's an amazing thing. She's done great work and she has a piece out in american greatness where she talks about how Senator johnson has already seems some weird things happening i e doors that had been locked people walking by capitol hill. Police officers mysteriously unlocked shortly thereafter. I think Three hundred and some people went in from that door that had been previous previously locked. We'll put a link to her article because it's worth it's worth looking at what she does but the question is were. These people were a certain group of people allowed in there. There appears to be an the articles. We read dr paul. There's a big group of just maga supporters trumpsters. A lot of them. Are you know middle aged and older ladies and men days this sort of wandered into the capital looking around waving their hats. Or what have you then. There was a smaller group of very violent people Who are who are doing violent things and breaking things and all of this sort of thing. The question is was the second group who really got everyone. Shock biden said. It's the worst thing since the civil war. Is that group that group that was infiltrated and inspired and provoked by the fbi. And that's the big question and they'll argue. Well yes they did. We put our fbi agents nearer to find out what's going on and and that's for national security purposes and and to protect the people But if they go a little bit further if they in in filled trade and then become leaders and then lead the charge And encourage other people to do it. That's called entrapment and There's probably somewhere a law that says you're not supposed to do that Because it's it should be very very illegal and very very immoral to go in there and and do this and get people. We've heard story were very people on the street. Might could be easily be entrapped into a drug deal. We got this bad. I and get all the records i think entrapment is one of the worst things that a government agent and that's crooked cop and that that should be rooted out what we're talking about any..
"january. 6th" Discussed on Ron Paul Liberty Report
"Reveal the truth now. We don't live in a like that anymore but we better try to resurrection. Yeah well we know that. The after the january six insurrection the b. announced they were going to have a shock and awe campaign to arrest. Everyone in anyway remotely involved with it and over. Five hundred and fifty people have been arrested. Many of them held without bail in solitary confinement for non violent charges people without any criminal records contrast that to the people who ride it over last summer on were let go but the essentially what you have is a political round up if this is the case rounding up funches of people dozens hundreds of people for political reasons to intimidate people who may not share the view that the election was completely free and fair may not like joe biden. What have you Here's what tucker said last night. Which is pretty strong stuff if true he said we know that the government is hiding the identity of many of the law enforcement officers who are present at the capitol on january six. According to the government's own court filing these law enforcement officers participated in the riott sometimes in violent ways. That's pretty heavy stuff you know. That should be the whole effort right now. That is that is what we have to know who. Who was there and what they were doing and they have this investigation. An investigation is likely investigations and the commissions. That are always set up. I say it's usually they're set up to You know Cover up for somebody cover up somebody so that nobody gets blamed or blame somebody who didn't do anything and that's exactly what's happened so far and if this goes unchallenged and really i would say that You know except for the few in the congress in the house and the senate just so few They're not interested in it. They don't want to rock their boat. You know and. I think this is politically unfeasible but you. You know. I remember when. I i I was voting on the patriot. Act i asked my calling their who is voting for and it i said why are you doing this. Good he said. Oh yeah i have to do it. And he says it's called the patriot act. Am i going to go home. People against patriot act. I said well. Why don't you go home and explain it in. That's your job so that is more or less. What what they need to do if they become suspicious eventually that there is a massive cover up and and we need to have more information all we want are the facts and if there's some really really bad people that belong to some of these so-called right wing organization we wanna know it and they should. They should be punished but what they don't want to know is because they were they wouldn't be locking people up without due process and And not allowing the records. The the emails information they have really isn't available to the public now and who knows when we'll ever become available for fourteen thousand hours of video refused to release the capitol hill police and the refuses to release all their surveillance video. What do they have to hide. And what if there's skull tori evidence in there that these poor people rotting away in jail might benefit from. Why won't they let it out. But here's another thing. We should have been accused of key early on. Which is the proud boys. It was an oath keepers. The proud boys in the three percenters. I'd i've never heard of the third group but the problem. Boys leader enrique ataur. Eeo right after the so-called insurrection..