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Episode #48: The Adult Toys From Dodge
"Welcomed episode number forty, eight of talking Mo- pars, this episode is all about the adult toys from Dodge now, I know what you're thinking, but trust me this episode is in fact, safe for work. The adult toys on talking about were the flashy heavy metal Mo-, Park Vans, and trucks from the late Seventies. The name adult toys comes from the ad campaign that dodge. Launched market these specially package machines and we're GONNA. Talk all about them later in the show. So without further ado, if you are a mope aren't doozy stint, you are in the right place don't go anywhere. You're tuned into the best part theses driven podcast on planet Earth and I'm your host. Chris. Albrecht, better known as the MO- partner and this is talking Mo- parse. You're listening to talking parts with the multi-car. Hunter. Your direct mention, all things Mo- park. Welcome. Back my friends I've been doing a lot of thinking lately and I think I need to go back to my Mo- par roots for those of you who haven't heard my story yet I'll give you the cliff notes my first memories of Mo- Pars were of my dad's in one thousand, nine, hundred, five, Dodge Daytona Turbo Z and his custom nineteen, seventy, five, dodge tradesman short van, both of them were black and both made a huge impression on me as a kid it's been over twenty years since I've seen that van in, it's never left my mind. I still think that it's the coolest Van I've ever seen actually think about it a lot and To put it bluntly, I don't think my Mo- part life will ever be complete until I get a book van of my own. So I know I'll never be able to replace my dad's van but just like his dart I like to find a van because getting one would mean that I've managed to replace all the Mo Pars in our family that have gotten away. Now I don't know if any of you have tried looking for seven Era Dodge van lately, but they aren't exactly easy to find and when you do find him at least when I do they aren't really what I'm looking for or they're just crazy expensive I, mean more expensive than they. Need to be I'll tell you that it's pretty ridiculous. You think more muscle cars are expensive. Go try and find a dodge. Boogie van. Okay. They're crazy. The most important thing about this podcast for me has been the number of Kumo par folks that I've made connections with because of it, and who I now consider to be my friends one of those cool people who I consider to be a friend as my buddy. Stacey Stacey, reached out to me way back in January and said he. Heard me talking about vans on the show and mentioned that he actually had a dodge van that he would be willing to sell to me. He said that he tried to sell with no luck and it's been sitting for like the past three years. But at the time, I, really didn't think much of it because I wasn't considering the fact that if I actually got van I would have my own book van and I customize it like my dad did his back in the day but. Stacy's band is orange and was actually wants a ready camp conversion van that has since been gutted. So it has no windows other than the two on the back doors and obviously the ones up front. But as a cool bonus, it does have the typical Boogie van Porthole Windows, and in my book just makes the look of the van. It also has one of those vents in the roof towards the rear and a sunroof in the front. So basically, it's the perfect platform to build A. Book of my own and quick story on the van is that Stacey's friend was in poor health and was selling off some of his moped collection stacey ended up with this van and some other Kumo part stuff and since he is knee deep in rebuilding his Kuta right now, he knew that he wasn't going to get around to it anytime soon. So he would be willing to find a good home and he asked me but it's not running at the moment and it's got a seven twenty-seven. Attached to the three eighteen, that's leaking and seen better days. So it's going to need a transmission or some transmission work but stacey sent me a bunch of pictures and the thing is pretty Dang solid considering its age and the fact that has been sitting for a few years you know it's not a complete rob box. There are a couple small issues but for the most part it is solid and that's what I'm looking for in a van because I'd like to have a platform that's. Pretty Straight, you know the paint's oxidized but hopefully, with a little elbow grease, we can get that paint to shine. Once again to be honest with you I've had so much going on this year and with the stupid virus complicating life even more I completely forgot about stacy having that man and offering it to me for a good price at actually wasn't until recently when our old pal Johnny Mo posted a really cool looking pro street van and said that it made him. WanNa van that I. Saw Stacey comment about his van and saying he's willing to sell it. Of course being the Mo- part vulture that I am I swooped in and just like that my desire to have a van was reignited and since Janis Post I can't stop thinking about stacy's Van I reached back out to him and we're trying to work something out. But hopefully sooner rather than later. But other than wanting to complete my little collection classic Mo-, Park The van would make a great haller and since I. Plan on taking talking. Mo- pars on the road in the future it would make the perfect home away from home in mobile talking low parts podcast studio I thought that would be really cool but I've spent so much time travelling and camping advance when I was a kid that even as creepy as some people think, these vans are to me vans bring back some of the fondest and best memories of my childhood and I could think of no better mode of transportation for the most part hunter. To shows outside of my area than accustomed Dodge van another plus side is the fact that actually be able to use the van as a tow vehicle for my daughter or my truck if I ever needed to so needless to say the reasons for me getting the van far outweigh the reasons why I shouldn't and my wife hating vans being one of those reasons. Sorry Babe I know that you hate vans but no I love you and I'm a Mope As such I, need a Mo- part van in my life. The truth is that. This. Deal is sentenced on yet because somebody else could just go in swoop in and by the van from Stacey which would suck for me but. You know I believe in first-come-first-served that said I. Have My sights set on stacy's Van and I'm going to do everything I can to get it I just don't know when that's going to happen. So that's what's been on my Mo- parked in mind as of late and not. For those of you wondering I definitely haven't forgotten about the projects that I have in my garage right now being the DART and my truck. But since being reminded of the Van, I'm actually super motivated to get these projects going and moving along. So what I'm in the process of coming up with is the plans for my projects and the cash to get this van but that's the name of the game for a Mo-, Park. Guy Like me as I'm sure many of you can relate to that I'm sure there are plenty out there listening who feel the same way about Mo- parts that I do the amount of Mo powers that sucks to have is not having enough. So we're always trying to add more to the collection. All right friends. Now that I've told you all my secret plans please don't tell my wife. Let's get this show on the road. This week's project. Car of the week is actually a van and I'm starting to think I should just call this segment. Mo- par project of the week just because. You know I picked more than just cars for the segment. So be ready for that change. I'm trying to be a little bit more diverse with the Mo parts that I choose for this segment because I do like mo parts from all areas and all types of Mo- parts and I think that good moped projects aren't just cars sometimes their trucks, and since I'm on a van kick this week was a van and Let, me say that I actually set out to find van for this week's project. There was just one issue there aren't very many out there. So let's read the ad and then we'll talk some more about vans and why they can make cool projects. The van featured on this edition of Mo- Project of the week was posted on the Mo- part hundred facebook page on Sunday September sixth at nine. AM HERE IS THE AD. Van Three Thousand Nine, hundred, ninety, five, dollars, nineteen seventy five, dodge tradesman shorty three Eighteen v eight auto runs drives and stops pretty well for a forty five year old van. If you've been looking for one of these, this is one to consider not showroom ready. But great start to a street machine serious inquiries only please three, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, five dollars, or best offer title status is clean. So. This ban is a short wheelbase van, which for these is one hundred, nine inches compared to the longer versions that one, hundred, twenty, seven inches the van that I wanna buy from Stacey is a hundred, twenty, seven inches for wheelbase. So it's longer than my dad's was since my dad's was a like this van the one in this ad is to tone it has a light blue base with a thick. Dark blue striped mid body in a dark blue roof. It has a windshield visor which is very buggy vanish and it has my favorite bubble windows of all time. The PENTASTAR portholes they are super rare and I'd love to hunt down a set for my future van project. But if stacy's van ends up being mind, then I'll just settle for the round portholes unless I can find. Those awesome. Pentastar. Wants this van. Also has a grant wood grain steering wheel, which adds to that nostalgic feeling along with that pop up Sunroof, and it looks like at one point back was done up like seventies custom but right now it's pretty bare, which is great. Because most of the time when you find these vans, the cargo area usually needs to be redone. These old buggy vans had all shag carpet and cabinets put in Old Saints and. Things like that. So chances are if you find one of these, it'll probably need new carpet and things like that. This one actually has a plywood floor and looking around it actually looks like the van was originally read. The good news is that it will be easy to strip the cargo area and get creative to create your own space. I. Like the idea of a modern version of a classic book Van Something. Creative enough that you can go to shows and show it off. But you can also go camping, and if you're the nomad life, you can hit the road and live that van life but it would also be cool to get this thing capable of hauling a race car that way you have a place to store your tools, parts, extra tires, and have a place to stay at the track instead of. A ten I really liked that idea for me I like all those possibilities but the possibility of having a mobile podcast studio when I go to events would be really cool and if I bring merch with me, it would make a great display for the Merch to this thing has a three eighteen. It's running and driving and hey, it stops too. So that's always nice I like projects that you can. Drive home and this thing is you know that type of a project, it even has some pin striping on the hood, which is cool because it's kind of like a throwback. It does need some new wheels and tires and some fifteen by ten on fats in the back and some fifteen by eight in the front would give this thing that groovy raked stance that was so popular with these vans back. In the day I, think that this van is also in desperate need of a front lip spoiler and the fender flares, which you can surprisingly still find if you look hard enough online but all in all, I'd say if you were interested in getting a Boogie van for a project for less than four grant, I think this one is a great candidate I actually did reach out to the seller just to. Feel the water and see what the temperature was like and it sounds like he's pretty firm with not much wiggle room. But he said that thirty five, hundred to the right person would take it home. WanNa know what I offered him. But that's a whole nother story since these vans are hard to find think he's in the ballpark the side doors do have a little damage and there's definitely some work probably needs to be done but overall, it appears to be pretty solid. So if you're looking to get back into fanning and relive your youth or even if you're a rookie banner, this would make a fun project keep on Truckin my friends that was Mo- part project of the week Nomo par left behind. Since we're on the topic of vans. This week's high-performance part belongs to a custom Shorty Dodge van and the two thousand, fifteen movie American ultra and because I suck at explaining movies, I finally come to the realization that from now on I think I'm just GonNa read the Synopsis Straight from Rotten Tomatoes. So here is the synopsis for American Ultra. Tomatoes. American ultra is a fast paced action comedy about Mike Played by Jesse Eisenberg, a seemingly hapless and unmotivated donor who's small town life with his live in girlfriend phoebe played by Kristen Stewart is suddenly turned upside down unbeknownst to him. Mike is actually a highly trained lethal sleeper agent in the blink of an eye as a secret past comes back to haunt him. Mike is Thrust into the middle of deadly government operation and is forced to summon his. Interaction hero in order to survive. Now, where does this sweet Boogie van come in well about seventeen minutes and thirty seconds into the movie Eisenberg's character Mike Meets up with his drug dealer rose played by John Leguizamo to buy illegal fireworks. The show he wants to put on for when he proposes to phoebe Rachel Rolls Up to the meeting spot in one thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, four to nineteen, seventy, six, dodge short van with a wild paint scheme which. To me looks like a vinyl rap, but it's pretty wild. It's got a seventies bubble porthole window side pipes, and crackers, and on the inside all you can really see is a wall that has some speakers built into it, but the van appears to be in really good shape. I'm actually wondering where this man is. Now I'm hoping that it's not rotting away some Hollywood movie prop car law because it's a pretty cool van and even rolling up the band sounds good and it's really just an attention grabber the perfect Buggy van for an accenture drug dealer like rose. I like the van it is a bit too wild looking for me as far as the paint scheme or rap. Whichever it actually is, but it's definitely cool and it's always fun to see mo parts in movies and this van really stood out to me since it's probably the coolest custom Dodge van seen in a movie for at least a few decades but it's refreshing to see these things still out there and I would be really depressed. If I never saw another custom van again. So here's what I'm GonNa do I'm going to build my own and it's GonNa take me a while but I that's my plan and who knows maybe might end up in a movie someday you never know but that was high-performance parts the nineteen seventy four to nineteen seventy-six, custom dodge boogie. Van In American ultra. This week, we have two boys males for listeners stories. The first one comes to us from Dustin Williams in West Virginia. Here is Dustin Story. Here. I've been listening to the show here for a couple days now worked as. One of missed the most. from West, Virginia just WANNA. Let you a move bar story and last year I think that but twenty eleven charger while our Ford dealership, it's an Rt.. Actually Governor Right now love the car. Dealership that was working they weren't real pressure though because have a crack. Actually, I sent my number for this car and Chrysler Yard he will go. Pro Archaic Much. they were only thirty six. Nathan. Around on that. So I started listening greatness and everything and. Got to the point where I can have an old car. But the money I don't think it in the U.. Twenty eleven monetarily driver so got looking around and maybe. Twenty minutes from my house Nicky eight Dortmund. I knew about years ago. And I picked it up her thirty seven hundred bucks a month like an olive green. Any one of. Backwards your submarine. and. It was the lead around the you can do the grill, the number one. three. So. Picked up the February. Red. Reggie vets, but pick that up. More. Than ever does a great game. The thing that it starts to good deal caveats carbone and. But? Many started on. Edmund Editors. Melissa. Of. Third down into the in three emmy idea for the Dr Name using that Macarena that I have. No cut in the Hon, they just boggles on their backwards so. if I get the gym three Hemi in their natural somebody. You put out definitely GONNA be appraised O.`Neil. the. Solid for being even only K-. Not Not a good a good solid starter there already go down almost on way to modal was the Patriot against. NAP At one green light rain, Palette? Mate? Thank. A Dustin thanks for calling in sharing your story I really dig the Hemi cars with all wheel drive. The Cherokee RTA tes the all wheel drive chargers. You know I'm curious how many all wheel drive charges with him he's were made because they are awesome cars and for me being in Washington state with all sorts of crazy weather on all-wheel-drive Hemi charger would be very, very cool daily driver I. Think it's great that you have a modern Mo- par that is low production and that you went and found yourself a cool sixty eight dark for project. Car, you know me buddy I'm a huge advocate for old mo- parts of modern Hemingway's the old engines are awesome too. But I you know it's always fun to say that you have Hemi. Even if the modern Gen three hemmings don't actually have traditional hemispheric combustion chambers who cares keep us posted on the projects Dustin and if you do end up going with the Gen three, Hemi be sure to check out DIY DOT COM and soak up some knowledge and maybe even get some of the parts you need. Don't forget to tell them that I sent you. I'm really excited to see other MO- parentheses becoming more open, minded swapping in these newer hemmings. I think it's only gonNA. Help convince the aftermarket that there is a huge huge surge in popularity for the swap and when that happens parts are going to be more available, and hopefully we'll be able to benefit from cheaper prices down the road. anyways. Thanks again. For sharing your story with US Dustin love hearing stories like that. The next voice mail was sent in by our friend Hemi bill in response to win Johnny moped was on the show sharing some knowledge about the super bird with us. Hemi Bill had some knowledge of his own to drop that I found very interesting. So let's hear what Hemi Bill has to say. Hey. Tammy I just listened to your latest podcasts talking Johnny Art and I just remember learn eastern supervisor. Trivia. Wonder if review to heard of this back in time around but. I can late sixties I did not have signed Mirka life of the federal government cannot said, hey, you have to have these nineteen, sixty eight. Round side lights and then fifty nine Chrysler. Got Sneaky and they snuck in reflectors and the federal government says, Hey, you can't do that. You're supposed to have light nakas sweaters and that person's. Reporting back in nineteen seventy where nineteen seventy plymouth be bodies. They still have reflectors on there for the dodgers had light again. If you look at seventy super bird, it's a plaintiff back in with a dog on. The back as our reflectors of front has side Marker Lights. So. As far as I know, it's the only car that as African path. And that's a little bit of a Super Berkshire View today. A. Hemi bill that's really interesting and I sure didn't know that I always wondered when the side Marker Lights became a thing and I guess now we know I do think it's funny that Chrysler tried to sneak in just a reflector in nineteen sixty nine very interesting tidbit of super bird knowledge from our friend Hemi bill always bringing us the oddball knowledge that is fun to learn and a great piece of Trivia. Thank you to Hemi bill for that. That does it for listeners stories today with more coming soon on an upcoming episode of just listener stories, I've decided that the easiest way for me to get caught up. On listeners, stories is just to do a whole episode on him. So look forward to that in the coming weeks, and if you WanNa, hear your story on the show send me your stories by email to Chris. Talking Mo- PARTS DOT COM or call two zero nine, twenty Mo-. Park and leave me a voice message that I can play on the show. Remember folks the Voice Mail is limited to three minutes. So if you over, that's absolutely fine that is okay. Leave his many messages as it takes to tell your story and I will find a way to cut it all together for the show that was listener stories. With, the creative muscle car marketing of the late sixties and early seventies long gone the late seventies sparked a new ad campaign from Chrysler to market their growing line of Dodge trucks. It was nineteen, seventy eight and the birth of the new adult toys from Dodge marketing campaign. This ad campaign carried over to nineteen seventy nine but unfortunately, that would be the end of the adult toys marketing campaign but. It was definitely fun while it lasted. The campaign was aimed at promoting four vehicles in nineteen, seventy eight including the warlock, the ram charger, the Macho Power Wagon, and of course, the street van to get an idea of what the campaign was like in seventy eight I thought it would be fun to read one of Dodge's ads. So here is the ad for the adult toys in nineteen seventy eight. A new set of adult toys from Dodge dodgers nineteen seventy, eight line of adult toys can do everything tough. Dodge trucks have always been known for, but a lot further than that. They're fun to drive fun to be seen in fun to own this see that four by four ram charger that looks like a hardworking station wagon. It looks more like a convertible when you take off, it's optional hardtop roof that extends all the way to the windshield or you. Can order a vinyl top with role upsides for fresh air camping that dynamite short bed with the solid oak stake sides is warlock which has got to be the ultimate status pick up most of the goodies you see on it or standard along with a couple of dozen others you can't see the imposing two-tone machine in the foreground is called the macho power wagon and it delivers everything the name implies inside and outside with a standard roll bar and full. Time four wheel drive to back it up, and of course, there's street van based on America's most popular van Type Vehicle, the Dodge Tradesman. It comes right from the factory with gear that gives you a great start on your own one of a kind set of wheels from there on the possibilities go right out of sight we could take ten more pages to tell you about the optional sun roof paint schemes, interiors, chrome, Trim special wheels, and etc, but we'll. Just say that everything about these trucks is designed for fun. If you haven't heard other truck companies talk about that lately maybe it's because they don't build trucks that are this much fun to drive. That was one of the ads from nineteen seventy eight and it was actually one of the Tamer ads other ads depicted the adult toys and a variety of fund youth inspired situations. So these vehicles were sure to Pique the interest of adventure seekers, some of these ads. Showed people at the beach just having a good time and you could just tell that the vibe that dodge wanted to put out was, hey, get a group of your friends throw cooler full of cold brews in the back and go find yourself a spot on the beach start a fire and have a great time. I really enjoy the marketing machine of Chrysler throughout its history. It definitely has had some great moments and even in modern times the marketing us. Today to attract the attention of the people who are in muscle cars has really been heating up over the past handful years. The folks at dodger really pushing the envelope much like they used to in nearly every vehicle in their current lineup is getting Hemi. Crazy. But props to the marketing department today because they're really doing phenomenal job at harnessing the power of those cars that muscle car everybody wants to be part of the Brotherhood of muscle, right? But My. Favorite. Adult toy from dodge had to be the street van. They really pulled no punches when it came to offering buyers customization options and it's great that they recognize the potential in the van craze of the nineteen seventies I. Don't think any other manufacturers capitalized on movements of the way Chrysler did back. Then you know with the Muscle car movement and then you know the big truck movement in the vans, it's crazy and it never ceases to amaze me when. I take a look at their marketing materials and ads from the sixties and Seventies. They really just had a way of making it fun and I think that Kearns. Even non Mo- Park Aren't suzy can at least appreciate their marketing efforts for all those different periods of time I. Think it's awesome and with the street van what was really cool is dodge offered this customization kit and they're really rare and if you can find one today Jeez, send it my way. Inside this kid, it gave you like a bunch of. Ideas. Pictures of dodge vans of like paint schemes and you know inspiration and I thought that was really cool. They also had. I guess they had patterns for like creating interior panels for your van so like the walls and things like that. So Dodge really you know through everything they had at the customisation aspect of these vehicles specially with the street van I. Mean There's a picture out there floating around on the Internet that shows an old dealership and for the life of me, I can't remember which one it is, but it shows nothing but street vans in front of this dealership and you're looking at it like is that a van show? No, that's just the lineup of St Vans that. This dealership had in stock that is insane to me but in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, nine, a new adult toy was added to the lineup and that was the little mini truck, the Dodge d fifty sport. The rest of the lineup stayed the same with the biggest difference being the redesign of the grills, the front of the van guy a little bit more squared off and I'm not the biggest fan of that seventy nine van style. I've always liked the way dodges compared to Chevy's were less square. I like how the van the front of him float a little bit better into the grill. I liked the trucks how there weren't such sharp edges and how everything had Nice, curvature. Chevy's that's why the square bodies because they're. So Square at least with the dodgers you know you felt like I don't know they just looked smoother to me between the muscle cars trucks vans in comparison to Chevy Ford Chrysler products to me were just far more aesthetically pleasing to my eyes I don't know how everybody else feels but that's the way I feel and that's why I prefer Pars over any other car going back to the van styling it really is a shame that they changed the front end of that thing because it looked so good and you know. From the seventies into the eighties, they really looked more squared off like Chevy's and I really did not like that. But you know I guess all good things must come to an end and one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, nine was the last year for the adult toys from Dodge nineteen. seventy-nine was the end of that great marketing time in Chrysler history and with eighties came the K. cars will be talking more about them in another episode and you know talking about the eighties Turbomeca Pars, some of my favorite cars from Chrysler aside from the muscle cars and trucks and vans. That was another era in Chrysler history. That was. You know awesome with the turbo cars, they just were on a different level and coming from my childhood, you know my data talking car. So it's just really cool to think about what kind of stuff they were working with back in the eighties and we're going to be getting into all that stuff and she'd your episodes and we're also going to be getting further in depth with each of the vehicles offered in the adult toy lineup. So now you. Know, what vehicles were considered the toys from dodge, and hopefully you got a little understanding of why got a little flashier toward the end of the seventies exploring each one of these models in depth. A little bit more will be fun because each one is unique enough to stand on their own. They're so cool. But together, they make a great lineup of wild and crazy machines that will usually garner a little smile when you mention the adult toys from dodge. Wow, I never thought I'd be able to say that I talked about adult toys on an episode of talking. Mo-. Parts with thousands of people listening. But I, guess there's a first time for everything folks. So I will mark that off the old bucket list and as far as vans go I really WanNa see fanning make a strong comeback I. Remember very little from the vendors that I went to with my dad as a kid. But when we were going to those events that were definitely starting to slow down, but they're still hardcore banners out there that are still. Doing it still living the life still vanishing keeping banning alive but I think it would be awesome to more vans re-surfacing at events even the old one, one, hundred, zero, a one. Oh, eight's a really cool and they also make great projects. So shout outs all the vendors out there I hope to join the ranks soon and relive some of my youth because some of my best childhood memories were camping and road tripping my dad's van. So I really hope there's somebody out there listening that's thinking themselves. You know I never really considered a van that sounds kind of fun. I kinda do think that would be cool and. Join me. Let's get Vance. Let's really start pumping this. Van Craze up a little bit. Let's get this thing going again I think it would be really fun I. Think It'd be wild and I think it will be something you know unique in new I know that they did it back in the day but. You. Know history repeats itself and I think that you know I've seen banning kind of make a comeback in a weird way. You know you have these people that are social media influencers in their living you know nomadic lifestyles by buying these vans and these RV's and just living in and documenting their time I. think that's really cool. I. I won't do that but I definitely want one of these boogie vans to have some fun in you know like I. said earlier take two events and things like that. I think that would be a blast and I think it would really be cool to get a bunch of people together and see. If. We can really make banning comeback. I know it's still alive I know van is not dead. I really appreciate all the vendors out there keeping banning alive I. Appreciate You. Thank you very much. I. Cannot wait because last time I will banning I was a kid so it's different ballgame now and I'm also really excited to build a van you know what? I mean like the inside of it and customize it and make it something cool that I. can you know stay in while I'm out and about on the road in road tripping doing Mo- par road trips I. think that would be an absolute blast and I'm really looking forward to it. So that's all I'm going to say about vans for at least today. I'll probably be chatting your ears off about Vance for the foreseeable future until I get when myself and even then as soon as I get one, we're gonNA have all sorts of fun with it but thanks for joining me today. It was a good time as usual. But before we shut her down I, want to remind you to go visit my friends over at Hemi pages, DOT COM DIY Hemi, dot com and auto metal direct DOT COM. Don't forget about the build mope project put on by Hemi pages that project's GonNa be really cool. Go hemi pages dot. COM check it out. Learn more and join us in building this. Awesome nineteen sixty eight superstock dark. That's GONNA have a giant whipple super charger on it and it's GonNa be a modern throwback to the sixty eight superstock Hemi darts from back in the day that's going to be really cool. I can't wait there you have. It my friends, another episode of talking Mo- Pars is in the books for more information about this podcast or to listen and subscribe to the show. Please visit talking Mo-. PARTS DOT COM and don't forget that you can send me your stories, questions, comments, complaints, suggestions, and everything else on your part addicted mind to Chris at talking about parts dot com or leave voice message on my voice mail box at two zero, nine, twenty, eight, to. Hear yourself on this show. Also, be sure to check out the talking parts merged shop on the website. Yes we have merch. We have cool things like t shirts, hoodies, stickers, mugs, and more. So if you want to help support the show and get some cool stuff at the same time jump on over to talking Mo-. Pars. Dot Com. That's it. 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Arigato Grande (Jenny Ly and Bree Lee)
"Reading every one this is Asian America. The Ken falling podcast. And I'm your host and fog. Welcome to episode two hundred twenty one. This is a bonus episode. You're actually getting the release of two episodes in the same week this month of December twenty eighteen. And let me explain briefly. Why you're getting that that treat right now as some of you might know over the span of our four plus years of existence. We have managed to become The corporate media sponsor for East West players and more recently this year crushing the myth But there's an additional corporate media sponsorship that we have that Is just months old? And that's with the Asian Creative Network The Los Angeles chapter which Chaz over three thousand of members. Now we're always working to put some younger Asian American culture makers in culture. Shapers in front of our microphones because You know like Many podcasts of Our OUR ILK. We tend to attract A little bit older audience and Even even those of you who are older. I think it's great to meet and come to appreciate some of the up and coming Younger asian-americans who are doing things of note Jenny. Lee and Her Choreography Brealey are my guests. This episode and earlier this year. They made a parody music video. That was only possible with the help of the members of the Asian creative network You'll hear more about how that all happened and You know by by now. This particular music video has think collected a about a million views on social media platform. Which is you know pretty amazing. Well they've just launched a new parody music video and As one of the corporate media sponsors of a C. N. L. A. They knew that they could reach out. S to actually help promote its launch. So if you listen to. This arrested this episode. You'll hear from Jenny and bree How you can find this video on especially Youtube and I encourage you listeners. To go out there and check it out Because we need to support the efforts of the young artists that are Putting in a lot of time and effort and their own money into making these amazing things that I think are only possible because of the thing called the Internet. I was really excited to go with my wife. A couple of days ago to the holiday show put on by jazz fusion group. Here Shema That was You know a nice venue in Pasadena. Dan chromato- is the founder and still the leader of the band and June chromato- his former wife. Is You know the Best Koto player in the world and both of them. If you look in our backlog of other episodes both of them have been guests of this show and their personal friends and so I just have to say although it's too late for any of you listeners. To go out and catch this show. If you get a chance going forward to Get to hear Shema show. I mean it's so worth it. This is one of the best shows. Haven't been too many of them That my wife and I have gone to. I think they continue to improve. Continue to come right new arrangements I mean they're just not kind of copying themselves over and over again which is easy to do so. I really take my hat off to them for doing that. Well this particular venue had scheduled to opening bands and You know it was pretty obvious in listening to them. One was a jazz quartet. Kind of playing modern smooth jazz and The other one was more of a funk band it was very obvious that Both bands were made up of people. Who are really good musicians? And it was also clear that They had done the work to compose and arrange original music. Which which again is hats off to them. I mean it's easy to just be a copy band right but it was also clear just with the energy in the room and the sense of distracted. Nece all around US including ourselves that most of us none of us were there to hear those two bands so in Hiroshima finally took the stage and the lights went on them. And just with the first sounds of Danny Omotoso With the Taiko drums. There's just as crackling energy Going throughout the room. Now this is the fortieth anniversary year For here Shema which is amazing if you think about it so much has changed in the music industry. The music scene in these four decades and yet they're still here. They just came off a six week tour that you know packed him in Very diverse audiences and not. Just you know old fans but I think other people are waking up to how this is just an amazing example of what American fusion jazz can sound like now thinking about the success in the longevity of this band and what it takes to be a headliner I would say that I'm definitely for here. Shema aboriginal concept you know more than forty years ago. Dan and some others especially during the whole Asian American movement yellow power. All of that. I mean age is really felt like You know these other Movements the Black Power Movement the Brown Power Movement. They seem to have soundtracks ours. Doesn't and so. Someone needs to write the soundtrack and since no one offs was stepping up. Dan In particular. I got some of his friends together. And they took the step of fusing. Traditional Japanese instruments like the Koto like the bamboo charcoal Hachi Taiko drums and and some of the Asian Japanese music forms and diffuse it into the American jazz scene. So that was a very regional concept. Nobody else was doing that. I know of and they've continued To to take that concept forward but only that I think they'd had a consistent message not just in the music and the music is definitely infused with this appreciation of Asian culture. Japanese culture But I think the bigger message which often comes from Dan's mouth in between songs as Junius retuning Koto is is about unity and coming together and making meaning and and being agents of peace One of their big big hits is a thousand cranes and You know every time they do it is just so we give of of this ultimate message that the band has been putting forth for all these many years as I was driving home from the show. I couldn't help think that this show with three two opening acts and headliner is a little bit like life. I think of us are kind of like these opening acts We work hard A lot of times you can see the the fruit of our labors. A lot of us have acquired and developed a good skill set. But it's it's just like people don't really take notice of us We're not headliners and You know as thinking what what goes into becoming a headliner so to speak right I think that It really kind of comes down to this yes. It involves still investing time and energy. Maybe that ten thousand hours But I think it's making sure to ask a really important question and then Guinness is not just about playing. Music is about life. The really important question comes down to this. What am I or what are we trying to create like like? How do we answer that question? And I think in Hiroshima case This goes all the way back to the beginning of their history They they were looking what was going on around them. They were seeing something missing. And they said we want to create this soundtrack for the Asian American movement and for Asian America. But it's also part of adding to the sound of the mainstream American soundtrack right. This is a missing missing sound. And I think they've been consistent with that. When I was a pastor at the church that I retired from in two thousand seventeen I very much. I'd say the last fifteen years more of my leading the church as a senior pastor. It was all about trying to create a glimpse however you know incomplete however partial but nevertheless a glimpse inexperience of what Christians believe. That heaven is going to be like like when when when all the bad things are gone. All the walls are taken down. I mean what does it really look like when we all are coming together kind of like dance message right when the doors wide open and everyone is welcome. That is such A. That's such a rare experienced today especially within a church environment Anyone we started this podcast. I was I was thinking about when Christopher Wong I approach me in early. Two Thousand Fifteen and said hey you know we should do a podcast on? Asian Americans I think we both had this answer to the question of what we're trying to create is essentially saying there's with all of the birth of you know so many things through the Internet. And and what have you? There still seems to be quite a vacuum of asian-american voices especially those who are significant people or are those who are doing significant things or a- those who are you know people to watch their on the rice and very much. I think we were trying to create this catalog this this library of voices of stories of these Asian culture makers and culture shapers Because we feel like otherwise They're just GONNA be heard and they're also going to be lost so that's how we set out to do this and even as Latter part of this year Christopher Wong Hysteria side and I've taken on the Directorship Alison. Chang has stepped in. I think we're still trying to Pursue that essential goal of trying to create this library this catalogue of Asian Rick Invoices and recently. I just didn't interview with Dr Karen Emoto which you will hear and early twenty twenty. She's the executive director of the a Reagan Studies Center at UCLA and She was so generous and wonderful in talking to me. Before we turned on the mics that they would like to digitally archive all of our episodes. Although two hundred plus that we've done already This one in every episode going forward because they believe that With us that these stories that were collecting and that our guests are telling are an essential part of the fabric of the Asian American experience. Now it's going to require some digital archiving and tagging that. I think I'm going to have to go back to all the previous episodes so that people who go to the library at the center that they'll be able to type in their search terms and whether or not even realize that you know this podcast exists or existed and that you know we had these particular guests but if they're looking for certain topics subject matters or certain people That these tags will lead them right to that material. This this could potentially mean that of some of these episodes Could be utilized in the classroom. All the way from K. through twelve even and above and Other people doing research This is such a an an amazing development for the PODCAST Simply because I mean we. We were doing this anyway because we think it matters. And we think having this catalog in this library of these Asian AMERICAN CULTIVATION CULTURE. Shapers is is really important but then to have someone else in a much larger venue and more her established venue Agree with us is just amazing to me so in a sense and trust me. I'm trying not to make this a bragging thing in a sense with all the podcasts. That are out there now. And especially with all the Asian American based PODCAST. They're out there now. I feel like this generous invitation from. Ucla is essentially saying that okay. You guys are not just opening actor headliners and I think again. It comes down to being so clear and so consistent about what it is. We're trying to create so if your podcast route there he's American or otherwise Or you're just a person out there Trying to make your mark and to get noticed in to do something of note. I really encourage you to raise that question to yourself to your organization and end to to come up with a clear answer to that question. Not Not a boilerplate or generic answer. But what is it that you're trying to create an IT's out of that? Hopefully compelling vision that will come the energy and that will attract a the resources and the support That you'll need I. I think that's an oft overlooked lesson in life and I just WanNa pass on this good new stall of faith listeners and WanNa thank Ucla. The Asian Studies Center and I just WanNa thank Christopher for having the original idea And now for Alison for stepping up and being part of US carrying this forward. It's not often that you can watch a video on youtube and then a few months later have the people who are in the video sitting right here in your home studio. It is a really wonderful to bring Jenny Lee and really to the home studio here for the Pike as welcome ladies. Thank you so much for having us. Well we're GONNA talk about this new music video that's releasing next week and thank you for letting us be a part of kind of advertising promoting it but before we get to that. I think there's a lot of folks out there that don't even know what this music video parody were all this and so I want to back up to last year. There is an artist. A name Arianna Guerande. And she came out with a song. Seven rings but there was a tattoo involved in this whole thing. That kind of sparked your idea Jenny for doing the parody. So we'll start there so so fill in the blanks. What what was this blow up about the little tattoo that Arianna grinding. Who's a big big shot star right? I looked it up and she has six hundred forty five million views on her seven rings video but people were focusing on your Tattoo. So talk about that. Ironically we actually came up with this idea. I think maybe a week before the tattoos came. Yes so that's the irony because it does relate to it We're this actually started I heard seven rings A big fan of Arianna Guerande And I would very much love this song and I was Out One night and I was hungry and thinking about green. Barbecue is also a big fan of Korean barbecue man so I was thinking about it and was like you know it'd be really funny if there was a parody of seven rings but about the Korean Barbecue and my thinking was like Oh like each type of meat could be like one of the seven meets are something like that and so I just recently become a part of Asian creative network ACN Which is what you mentioned earlier. A group that had formed from subtle each traits and now as a huge network of a lot of different creatives in the Asian demographic and so I posted their jokingly and it actually started gaining traction And then once. We started collecting a group to commit to making this video We actually came across the Tattoo News and to us it was a sign it was like. Oh we were like how office exactly it was crazy. 'cause we were. We were just talking about Korean barbecue and you know. Her Tattoo came out says small charcoal grill right. And what did she intended to me? She meant it to seven rings but by short four yes exactly so it makes sense but by shortening the actual phrase it ended up meaning something entirely different and so end up being. You know something pretty funny that motivated. Us throughout the project. Because like this to happen. This was a sign. If this isn't assigned that I don't know what is no backing way up. Subtle Asian trades. It's a it's a facebook group. It's not a private thing and it's like blown up. There's a bazillion members on there. But it wasn't really designed from outset for Creative Asians. There's less stem agents out there right and somehow join did I. You know I didn't know what was going on so so talk about how even ECN Jumped out as a sub tribe of subtle Asian traits. How did that happen so I think you know the biggest thing about settled Asian traits when I was added to. I had no idea what was going on. Some some of my Asian friends added me and I was like. Oh I relate to a few of these things and so I think the reason why it emerges because we we all are trying to find common ground and it's not very common for us to have a lot of creative space in our community because it's very It advocated for us to be working in stem fields. A Computer Science and A stereotypical as it is. You know that is what our families do push work because it is successful But there's there's this group that emerged because we long to connect with others. I felt the same way came from space. That was more creative in so Han actually created the group and I had a friend of mine I known prior to any of that at me and it was a surprise but it was so refreshing to see a lot of artists. Come together and start off with everyone. Posting like Hi. I'm so and so here's my art and it was very nice to see that and feel like I kind of belonged in this community. That wasn't very promoted in our culture. Was that a similar story for you. Know is completely different. Me COMING ACROSS JANIS. Post was completely coincidental. I rarely go on. Acn And my friend actually commented on your post. And I don't think I told you this but that's how I came across like your list of who you need and that's one idea mdu but I would have never seen it with. My friend. Didn't comment on your post so before home sunshine. Other my shot. You're in my light so so again. This is I think this is representative of kind of how your generation gets things done. There's kind of this hive whereas I think previous generations. You really had to know people like already know them to even ask a favor and sometimes that wasn't even enough right whereas I think when this idea and I think I read online that you're a little tipsy when you when you when you send out this message on the aging created network. You were just kind of having a little fun but then shortly this person says Hale was director. Mock Morgan Morgan. He was our music producer. Yes he had messaged me or commented on my post. Saying like y'all. It's really do this. So then we private each other. And he's like I'm serious to make the song if you are and I was like okay. Yeah let's do it so we ended up Like I think just within the next few days rewriting the entire song because we were just so excited in that passionately push us. 'cause we came up with those lyrics within a week kidding. Yeah very clever. If you've ever gone to Korean barbecue yea totally relate to that and I think I think the quality of the music is that you release a singing. Yes actually I am singing. Thank you yeah I mean it's so the quality of the music itself and then the cleverness of the lyrics that really drives everything else because if if your voice was bad and the production value is sucky no matter how much everything else and you floating in a pool of Boba I mean I. I don't know that that would have sold the audience. Yes yeah that was a big thing that our production team actually talked about the big things. We didn't know each other before this guy didn't know bree before the project we didn't know anyone else on the project but we had this odd amount of faith in each other and even before they had heard the song they were committed and then they were like you know what. Let's hope. This song is good because the song is good. Then everything will be fine and the ended up really liking the song so our production team was like this is going to be great so that kind of carry the attitude so if the song itself is good and people listen to it in the enjoy it. Then that motivates the rest of the crew to want to do the same. So are you a trained singer like hunting no recording studio housing first time in a studio album very nervous just curious like has Arianna Guerande or her people like to your parody and reached out. No we no no we we know some. I know a friend who actually is friends with her friends. So I know that's a little disconnected but I know that she's probably seen it but I'm I think at the time. She was very tired of getting the news about her tattoos when she was probably very exhausted from dealing with that. So that's it's you know I don't know how she personally feels about it. But I hope that people understand. It's not like an an attack especially because it didn't originate from the Tattoo itself. That was just something that came up after we had already started so it was no we have. We have receipts. Can we have time staff says that but no we we are all very big? Arianna Guerande fans. I think she's just tired of hearing that about the Tattoo. There's a line in the lyrics that you guys came up with and I'm assuming you weren't part of writing lyrics. That was Morgan. And and you Jenny. A there's a line about like white girls something like they want this. You can't yeah so the line is I see these white girls. They WANNA attend. Think we might have just started a trend. Oh okay so. The whit came across to me was not a slam at white girls. So that was. Your intention wasn't to put white girls down. No no no. But there's this the the the overall says it got the video and the message was so Asian Asian stuff is cool right. And so there's Non Asians that wished now they had part of this. Yes right okay. So it was. That was that kind of the big picture is like. We're not putting anybody else down. We're just saying there's something happening here and we are a part of it. Yes so we did receive a little controversy over those lyrics because people were like. Oh God they're just they just hate white people and offer it. The point we wanted to make with. The video is more like we're celebrating things that we've now created as not just an Asian community but Asian American community so like cream barbecue. I know it's from Korean culture. But it's something that's very common in Asian American culture is something that we actively enjoy. We go out. We understand what it is and like the little soju games and like what how to cook the food and like you know just kind of needed versus nine Mary's so like these these nuances that we pick up on because it's now not just specifically Asian culture originated from there but now culmination of Asian American culture. It's a blend of things that we've come together as different Asians like Chinese and Vietnamese breeze Korean. But we both share these things that we enjoy and then same can be said and it's very like It's kind of a little bit of like a a joke. It's a trope like Boba Obsession with Boba that subtle. Asian trade ties. You know. It's kind of. We're poking fun at that. Were also celebrating the fact that we're all coming together for something And we're proudly representing. This is kind of like the medley of our culture now and we want to like we see it starting to blow up like Boba people to know what that was when I was younger but now in my my workspace with my coworkers like I love Bobo. Let's get Bobo. Oh my God. I Love eighty-five degrees. They actually are aware of that now. And I think that's something to be celebrated so that line specifically it's kind of like. Oh yeah they want to attend they. WanNa come to this thing. Learn about this thing because now it's growing in popularity and it's becoming a trend which can be a positive thing and can be a negative thing and I think we'll get into that later so I go back with the fung brothers. When they did the sixty six music video right and they took another it was not a parody but they took a popular song and they wrote their own lyrics allowed. It was Boba in the food in the San Gabriel Valley. So there is there has been this kind of re returning wave of Asian American artists. A saying okay the catchy tune but we have a different way of using it I also noticed the diversity of Asian Pacific islanders in your video. Because it wasn't just East Asians. Yes there were Southeast Asians while you're There's East Asians Southeast Asians and South Asians. Yes so that was very intentional. Yes it was well. I didn't buy a lot of people that were my friends. But my best friend a critic of she's actually Indian ends. She does face a lot of Like I guess issues growing up with being considered Asian enough or if she is Asian There's a lot of East Asians in current media now a lot of current Films now but I kind of also wanted to highlight that we are very different but we can all come together for a lot of things that we share the things that we love so I definitely wanted to emphasize that we all come from different backgrounds. So we had We had people from Korean backgrounds Chinese backgrounds Indian Vietnamese A lot of different diverse demographics. Because we wanted to showcase that that we are very probably different but still coming together for something including shirtless buff. Yeah it's funny. We get a lot of comments. We actually posted on our youtube comments section asking. Oh we're going to do. Qna what kind of questions would you like? Answer a lot of them. Were about Wilson. Where did you find that they're great? They're fantastic so so jenny you were already kind of saying you have a workless. What do you do in Your Day job? Oh can't truly disclose where I work but I work a lot with car insurance car accidents. Yeah it's fun fun. Staff I got rear ended three months ago. Just lightly you know as traffic stop as we change information and Blah Blah Blah. Clearly my fault and until recently like her insurance company is basically saying she refuses to reply to any of our things. I'm like what is clearly it her fault so finally the Insurance Company just sent me a check based on what you know. The body shop did but they said they're insured person has still never responded to any of their yeah respondents. Is that a thing. Oh sometimes yeah it is it depends. I mean people should be responsible enough to respond because their insurance is there to help them In cover them in these kinds of situations and I mean clearly she had valid insurance and they paid you Can be a problem. Sometimes man did I get suckered into something. Oh W- can you talk about what you do? Oh my roles have very inattentive info for your day job. Student you worked. I was a student but now I'm pursuing this like whole creative in trying to figure out what it is that I really wanna be doing Right now it seems like it's Kinda working and we're creating something really big here. Yeah did you grow up doing creative things or use discovering this late? There are always like small things that I did. I took dance classes. My Dad's an artist so I would like paint with him sometimes. Yeah stuff like that is just following in Your Footsteps Dad. Oh no he has a lot to say about surprising. Okay okay so let's get into this new music video parody. Okay so who wants to? Who wants to tell us the initial idea? Where did it come from? And what's it all about? It actually started with breeze so after seven meets released we were like. What are we going to do now? And I lasted for the entire summer Because it released. I believe in April eating a lot of encouragement. Like what's next. What's next we were getting a lot of these questions? And honestly because seven means was such a spontaneous project that came out of nowhere and we all never worked together before we were like well. That's a great question. We don't really know what we're going to do next so there was master plan. No no no master. They were There's a lot of pressure because I had started before for me to come up with something new and Morgan. I had been working on something all summer. We are weather later but we we were working on the all summer and then you know we were not really sure where to take it. And then he came in and the song. Don't call me Angel By `Grande Lana del Rey and Miley Cyrus Actually came out to promote the Charlie's angels movie that's coming up next month So when that came out she had reached out to the group again and started individually reaching out to everyone in motivating them. We can do this like this is going to be great. Like how the teams back together we can. You know this is I think yes. Yeah the team was that great you know and it was something like that doesn't happen. Where a bunch of young adults who don't know each other come together to create something and be able to work perfectly together like that was insanely magical for me so as soon as something dropped and it seemed like it was like a good time ahead of Johnny and was like hey we should do this and when she said yeah that's when I started contacting people and it just like have flowing and it was a lot harder this time. 'cause we were insanely lucky. The first time around but I think that's what makes this one so so much more worth it. So what made it harder? This time people actually want to get paid really paid all right the first time the first time. Everything was very like voluntary because it was a collaborative group project. End with this one. It's still a collaborative group project. But you know we can expect that from people after a time of a you know this timeframe you know and we let them know that and you know they love so much that they want to work with us and help us make this but you know that is something that we want to discuss in the future and you know because they rightfully deserve that We've we've had very lengthy discussions about like trying to come up with ways to cause We don't want to depend on fundraising necessarily. Because that's that's great for the first project but we want to be able to have a greater business plan to be able to support what we WANNA do and support the people on the project so That's in future discussion. But it was. It was harder in terms of Like with seven meets everything kind of fell into place. And that's why a lot of us believe that all it's Kinda crazy that we really think it's almost like fate that brought us all together to like have us meet each other and get this close as we did So last time like everything kind of fell into place. The people in their roles were just perfect like everyone on. The project is absolutely phenomenal into locations. That came in. They wanted us to film there for free to help promote their business. And so and you know everything just seemed to work versus this one It was a lot. There were a lot of challenges that we faced but the fact that we overcame them. And we're still pushing hard to work together and put something out means even more to us this time. Because last time I think was like the tutorial. This is now the real trial. So are you able to talk about one of the challenges in a little bit more detail? Yes so I think locations. This time was a lot harder Finding a location last time kind of just fell into place like Oh hey guys like the Sushi restaurant wants us to film in place totally would love to and that was kind of already set on versus now we had to have a higher production quality because we kind of set the bar with and the locations for the original film. We were trying very hard to match them so we had to get a a boxing ring. We had to get a mansion. Just those these. These alone were were a lot in Wasn't just the fact that we were filming another parody. But we what Morgan. I've been working on all summer. Actually an original song so we have. We filmed two music videos in the course of four days. Yeah which is very insane. I'll never put our crew. That ever again. Gosh yes so. Those are the challenges we face. I mean how did you? How did you get a boxing ring? How did you finally get a mansion? a lot of those had to do with connections and also pure space so we had to do a lot of outreaching to see like who within our crew Was able to find somewhere location like we had filtered through quite a few locations for like the boxing ring. Seen that we were considering having So we looked at a couple of dodos because we thought about replacing the boxing ring with Dodo Qatar. So cool or whatever but you know the the those came with its own challenges. And you know we had to consider liability because it's not just like seven meets. It was outside. My uncle's house wasn't much to worry about verses. Now we're we're actually trying to get more legitimate locations like that so lose a lot of connections a lot of peer space filtering and we actually had a locations manager. Julie WHO's on the team with us. She was actually an extra seven meets but she really wanted to participate in this one so she really helped us secure. Those of you couldn't just do like airbnb mentioned. Oh No I don't think AIRBNB allows you to film different pricing Pierce Base. Only lets you. So that's the thing. Peer space have never heard that before me neither so I discovered that During seven means when we brought it up but I didn't really know what it was until this project so pure space is like a platform where it's meant for creatives to rent out certain spaces for their needs so like any kind of photo studios we actually rented a warehouse from them and then we rented the mansion from as well so so money actually exchanges. Hands is not like okay. We'll do this for you and in return you do this for us. Yeah because the people on Pierce Bass don't have anything to gain from it. It's not so much an exchange We did have like a Exchange with hey hey which is a Boba shop in Echo Park. Sorry for That we worked with so for one of our videos. We are promoting their trains. We have like a good I guess advertising deal with them to to highlight their business so that was more of an exchange but opposed to pure space. These are people that already rent out their facilities for these specific purposes So it's a little a little bit different they don't really gain anything from US The first video it sounded like something from sounding music my favorite things right when you said. Don't call me angel. I mean I'm a age where there was a very popular song. Don't call me Joe in the morning baby but it sounds like this is a totally different song. Yes okay it's totally different okay. The first one had a lot of choreography that I think mimicked. The seven rings sort of thing did the original. So don't call me angel. Have Choreography to. And then if you're going to if you did it like did you do you bring in a choreographer and then you have to learn Corio. I mean well. Good thing you're speaking to a choreographer here yeah no Seventy meets did have some choreography. We tried to highlight it much as we could. But it's hard with all the cuts and everything so but we did train. We went to dance practice. Sessions with pre like every week up until filming and we in breeze amazing. We had to switch just as amazing experience. Your experience like dancing none of that but we tackled it anyways. And and so even day of filming for seven meets. We had to change the Corio multiple times because just of the spacing of the place. Yeah so you know we literally had a change it on the spot when we realize we like only had an X. amount of space so I was like okay. You guys will you need to change it. Let's just do it? And they came through like it was it was it was insane like Agassi on the first one For their first. So that's really your art is dance One of them will see what I'm doing later. And what kind of dance but usually like modern hip pop. That's what it's called urban hip hop okay. And and so. That's what you've trained in for the last couple years. Yeah yeah one of our early. Was Jimmy Kitagawa. So she was one of the hunters. You Girls Yeah. And she was the only non professional dancer. She was just hip hop club in college and she went out for the thing with. What's her name is not the one that had a heart as you girls a funny. Yeah so I was really interesting. So she toured the world with Gwen Stefani. And then the how'd you could kind of went right. So then she had to do something else so she tried out for Madonna and then she was part of Madonna's dance troupe for a bunch of years. Yeah she's like. Yeah so the way Madonna roles is if she gets invited reported her whole group. Get somebody to the party if she is a stain. Sweet in whole group Kit. Sweet thank crazy so I mean it's it's a burgeoning field right now this whole urban hip hop and all of that so. I mean this could be a jumping off thing for you to bring people see the Korean. Oh really see I feel like dancing is really. It's an interesting space. Yeah Yeah a lot of these things especially dance you. You have a very small window of opportunity. Yeah so Johnny's not doing this anymore so she was at the top right and she. She's actually done. Corio for all this stuff but I think right now. She's working for the food network or something like that like she wants to be a production assistant. Gm food shows. I'm like isn't that food. And Dancing. Like the polar opposites. You can't eat it sending me thanks to a this time. You're you're actually trying to not just doing on favors so I think you guys raised a thousand dollars for the seven meets something like that. You had crowdsourcing sourcing sort of thing. I mean what? What are you guys doing for raising money for this one? So for for seven meets we had a kickstarter which ended up raising about fourteen hundred which is very very good. that size This time around because we are doing videos We're trying to raise money on. Go Fund me Right now the goal I think is about like three thousand because we're trying to double the last one even that's a little tight We also with hey were doing a running a promotional event where we actually have two weeks or a promoting their drinks. They have special drinks made after the girls and then use the proceeds of the drinks. I think fifteen percent goes toward funding for the project and yeah most of them. Yeah it is so The I we worked with them during the video and we also are in discussion of making merchandise so yeah hoping to stupor cool. I gotTa Tell. Ya and our designers super talented young. So we're really excited for what it's GonNa look like. Yes Oh we have a few few ideas in. We think you'd be really fun for everyone. So yeah we're current plan right now in hopes of being able to support our group support. Our artists are hardworking crew For any future projects. So that that's kind of my overarching question for you is for artists like yourself. Doing these music video parodies. What is the long game like? What is there even a long game? I it back when when I was like a young adult. There's a guy we're weird Al Yankovic okay. And he was kind of the first out of the gate to do parodies of all the popular songs of Eight. And he's made he's still doing it right. He East made a whole career but that was before youtube does for the Internet. There's there's a lot of people doing covers not just parodies right so in the parody genre. What kind of examples have you seen like if you could hit it like that? That's what you want or you just kinda cover. Not Your own space. I'm kind of you know we never. It's funny because we never really thought we'd get this far when we first started. We weren't really. We didn't have a master plan to become parody artists or anything of that nature. We just wanted to put out something. That was fun and entertaining something that we could all enjoy but also make people laugh at but in examples of parody artists that like at least I'm reflecting upon now. I definitely listen to weird Al when I was younger my yes. Yes and my. I think my parents showed me that but then you know young when I was younger. I would watch like Venetian princess. Who was on Youtube? She made parodies all the time. I think she made like a parody of Mike miley Cyrus songs And I'm trying to think but I would see that kind of content but I would laugh at it but I never really thought anything. Yeah I never really really thought about that I did stuff like this similar in high school or if there was like a project I would use a song and then like me lyrics matched whatever subjects are onto a little bit of background in doing that. Yeah I guess so. I didn't really think about that until recently this crazy never done this before and then I thought about it. I did do this in high school but like school projects. Nothing like this. This big. No one from high school surprised actually very quiet and probably maybe someone crosses the wait is that is that. Jenny is but no for a now. Our Future like we do have another parody coming out just to kind of stick with a theme but we do hope to branch into more original music. That's what Morgan I've talked about. Because he strongly believes in me he he strongly wants to start like having US create music together. Because we work very well together and What we're hoping to do in regards to These next couple of videos that were dropping is start. Kind of like a collective we WANNA be able to promote you know Asian creators but also strongly Asian American women creatives. You know because we've stumbled across a couple of other artists that like you know I've seen like they're not getting a lot of attention when they're very talented and so we also WanNa WanNa highlight that. Because that's something very prominent At least in my culture is that like you know in Vietnamese Culture. Like the my mom like very very powerful. You know like it's it's May seem a patriarchal but it's always to me at least in my family. The women run everything. And that's very empowering to me and I want to be able to continue emulating but in more like modern context so we want to be able to highlight other creatives. That may not be getting enough attention on their own channels or things like that so we do want to start highlighting other artists. Not just me So that's what we're hoping to turn the channel in to make this more of a a group thing and you know more of like a collective of really powerful people saw twenty twenty. It's going to be super cool anytime an exciting so we say channel you have a youtube channel is the Avocado Grundy Channel is so we may be rebranding. That in the future depends on. We stopped discuss. That and rebranding can be difficult Already out there known exactly so like now especially with our video releasing in a couple of days. It's It's we're that's still in discussion. But it is a future goal that we want to start highlighting things that are like in our culture. Things are like people in our community that kind of like it would probably be really benefit them or help them out now. The the launch its December fifteenth is that right. Yes so that's an yeah two days Sunday. So what's involved with the launch of video like that? And how do you measure a successful launch or not so with seven needs? It was kind of like what we posted on our INSTAGRAM's and You know little teaser. Bits here and they are like behind the scenes so we're trying to maintain that same kind of social media engagement. Where we're posting little teaser. Bids Oh were making graphics to put out and help Excite people for our next project Right now you know. We're trying to garner enough attention for people to want to come back in view this and enjoy it so Yeah it's a lot of social media management marketing which is a lot of work. Reno's handle no we jenny. We kind of like debris hands in a lot of the different departments. Yeah like to make sure everything keeps running and that our goal will be met on my guard line but like with measuring our success We've had multiple conversations about how we have this expectation but also at the same time we put in so much work and it's been such a learning process for both of us especially because we don't have much production experience like another way like I already feel like we've gained so much from this Yeah so we. We were concerned in the beginning. That doing a parody of don't call me. Angel was not going to be as I guess. Successful as seven meets because seven means blew up more than way more than we expected and we set such a high bar that we were worried that we may not reach it again. Four hundred thousand total views. Something like that or is it higher than that. Close to a million. Wow because on youtube alone it's nearing three hundred thousand but on facebook facebook I think is over five hundred thousand so it's getting there and then I guess people shared it on Reddit and twitter. We I I'm not on either of those platforms so I actually don't know what's on there but we were also shared on NBC. Asian America and You know it's it's been wild to say the least but Youtube is the only one that could potentially turn into money. I mean with views and subscribers not necessarily the thing is So with with parody music. I think the way it is is if you don't construct your instrumental from scratch than most the music or the any kind of ads sense or anything like that goes to the original artists. Silver seven means it goes aground which ninety percent of her stuff goes towards the original creators of the sound of music. So yeah so it goes up to the bigger Hammerstein. Yeah so interesting and Youtube. I know it's a constantly changing platform. But they don't actually monetize a lot of the videos. A lot of us do get demonetized and when they get the monetize like it's like you know they may not run as many like ads on there or things like that like I have made zero dollars from seven meets so we don't expect youtube to be Making a lot of money. We hope I mean we can hope for that but it's not something that we depend on which is why we're looking into Good relationships with other businesses that want to work with us and also making merchandise. 'cause even those big youtubers that are out there that millions and millions of use. Their money doesn't come mostly from the views are the ads. Themselves comes a lot for the merchandise that they sell. That's why you guys are talking merch. We can't keep supporting a few limited things. Go Fund me that will be releasing images of soon so exactly. We have few mockups of things that are strictly going to be released to go. Fund me donors so we wouldn't be selling them like on our future merch website or anything like that. They're very very specific to the go fund me so Those are like little special perks for people who have been supporting us and people have been very helpful throughout the process. So are you leaning heavily. Second Music Video on Asian Grim. That were people again. It's kind of the same crew so technically yesterday because that's how we all met each other in the first place But we kind of just really found a crew that we loved working with and we really wanted to stick with it so You know stick with what works. Yes technically yes. we're mostly all from ACN as well but it's not necessarily like board members or it's not like an ACL Event or product We we all did. Just meet from there but we are very grateful for. Acn Like all the support that they give and The fact that we even met each other through them in the first place and the number of people in a C. N. I'm part of it now. Worldwide is a route like thirty thousand. Is that the right number. It's yeah approximately grew substantially especially with the Nbc asian-american Article. That came out Money's Ian Okay grew at least ten thousand members of the article in the La Chapter. How many members I actually don't know but it's a lot yeah it's La chapters very big it's La. Yeah that's where all that New York their chapter. There's pretty good it's growing as well. I also think that's what percent of all those members of our like anxious and frustrated before because there's usually not enough outlets for all the artists out there even be on Asian American is all these people they wanna make stuff but then they also have to earn a paycheck. They have to pay the rent. Put Gas in their car. But it I mean talk about other than your own project. You know other stories you've heard about how. Acn has been a real resource for other are asian-american artists like for in other ways so other than putting a music video together are there other examples how ACN has like made it easier but better for a lot of age Merkin? Artists would any stories that you can share. Yeah I I see a lot of posts where people are looking for someone in the creative space to hire on. They'll post in there and say like Oh. I'm looking for this as a job or I'm looking for this. It's voluntary and it's great because We've actually had a lot of outreach from other members that you know have seen our project because I think our seven meets project was the first I guess quote unquote big thing that came out of ACN and it blew up to a point that it really inspired others to work together. So I know that our friend Ginette. Who's actually are stylised onset for seven meets. She's actually working on a book project It's Barbie and Ken Look Book Project To help I guess put more images out there that more representative of our people in our culture and She's networking with all kinds of people in the community That are part of ACN that WANNA be a part of her project as well so it really does help a lot of creatives network. Find a place to display there. Our share their art in their passions and find common ground and even find jobs. You know. There's a lot of like paid gigs. That are offered on there as well. Money Hayden exposure to your role your role yet. Just put on your portfolio. That's all you need from us. Tell no the impression I get is. Acn Is really kind of a young adult and younger space. Is that true? I would think so because I think that's the demographic utilizes facebook that heavily. Yeah so but I've I've seen a couple of posts here and there I know I've seen I've I think I forgot the name of the comic but it's a husband wife couple that put out comics and they're very. They've grown their channel and their their instagram page. So much But there are also in their their little bit older hope not offending them by saying that but But you know it's it's not so much like young adults are still like in college or you know just recently graduated. But that's most of the demographic I believe because you know I think that's just the Democrat uses faced with the most. It's funny because I mean the Rub against facebook. Is your grandparents soc meet my daughter's like Oh please you know unless I tag the puppy you can look at it. Otherwise there on instagram right. Yeah Yeah that's interesting to me that that you're saying that for your generation of creatives. Facebook is still a thing. I think it's also the way that we use it. Facebook has grown a lot from just being like a place where you share photos and ask people in polk people to to meeting. Yeah to where you can make like groups like this and moon each other. You can actually sell things on facebook facebook dating now so I guess it's just the way that you use the platform like my mom. She's not very tech savvy but she uses her facebook to share things with her family. Like Oh look what I had I picked from the Garden Today. Or are we just went on vacation with grandma? How great you know. Things like that So I think the way that our demographic in our age group uses facebook is Is Why there's a lot of us in ACN where we're kind of at an age where we're looking to find ourselves looking to find ourselves find a job find something that's common with other people because I'm not gonNA lie. Postgraduate life is very boring so I was very very glad to be a part of this group now where I feel like I was connected to other people so I think I mean I can't speak for everyone but I think that's kind of like where we're all kind of find commonality. Is that true for you to Brie with ACN one and just the facebook thing? Before I said I'm rarely on facebook when the Group. Or like so yeah. It's just weird that it happened the way it did did on it now because the keys to your future on facebook sure. Mark Zuckerberg is happy to hear the younger people. Face muggeridge listening. I'm one of the early facebook users and I remember working out some of the social rules in the beginning so I knew some parents who joined and they're teenagers on there and then the parents started making comments on their their children's friends pages. You know what I'm saying Data Casey people. Can you talk to my dad? You know and so this one that I knew and I said I go okay so if your teenage kids have their friends over. And they're all sitting in the family room shooting the breeze. Whatever would you PLOP YOURSELF ON THE SOFA? Right in the middle of them and just like. Hey let's all never do that. Well that's what you're doing on face and then there's this other guy he's older than me. Then I guess he was probably in his late sixties and he was divorced and he just in person he he he. He didn't understand some of the rules of engagement and so he was starting to do that on facebook and so he he would be friends with this young adult and then actually make a friend request to their friend like he'd never met them here okay and he was doing this a lot and especially there were women and so again. I get the complaints. Go Talk to that guy right and someone was actually posting like. Oh you know. Some people are so creepy and he was talking about. He was like yeah. What's wrong with us? Your yeah so there there are those things so it sounds like though in these special groups that facebook has so if your listeners out there and you don't use facebook and that's fine that facebook has evolved to where you can have either open groups or private groups but they're like for special interest there for bird watchers. Sierra Madre where this home studios. There's a Sierra Madre neighbors group and so people come complain about the police. You know that sort of thing or there's a bear sighting and so that's not relevant to everybody in the world on facebook. So it's it's fascinating to me that creatives. Which is I think what creative do is they find ways to to create right and sometimes it. You can't do it all yourself and I think there's very much an energy that Ha- has come out of you guys being part of this. Acn space and. I think it's wonderful that that you know you're giving opportunities to each other to work together. There's so many posts just kinda like talking about like I do this job. I work fulltime but I really WanNa do this or like this is what I do. So it is very encouraging motivating. Yeah do you think that because of space is like that existing now and the the the opportunity to collaborate with absolute strangers? Become friends that it's bringing more asian-american creators kind of out of the shadows words before he's just like what's the point. Yeah no I I definitely think so I I mean for me personally I was reaching a point in my career wells like I have a stable job. I have like stable life. You know plan in five years may get house. Get some dogs like you know retire. After the time you know like I was reaching a very quiet point in my life and I'd always love like riding in creating like since I could pick up a pen and so I I'd almost like almost given up on it almost because I was like. Wow this is being an adult now. And so but when I discovered this page it kind of like sparked this Fire back in me of like my creative projects and I start working back on novel I've been working on for. I started working on a feature film that I hope to be able to produce in the next couple of years you know yeah so. I hope that. That's the effect that everyone has when they see other creative art because it's inspiring to see other people like put this out there in the world like I make this like this is still a big thing is still an important thing and so For me personally was very inspirational. I know for a couple of others. Some people have given up on their dreams or Let that go in. Just treat our as like just a hobby because you know we have so much other things to worry about but being part of this group. Kinda helped me realize that we can still do these things you know you can still enjoy this part of your life. You don't have to put it away. After seven means was diagnosed so worried I was just GonNa be like all right. That's it it's over but then you know like it's just like I'm very like Gogo mentality. I'm not gonNA stop if something's working like we gotta get back together. We gotta make this happen again. Like to all it takes. Is that one spark person Right like the fire. Yeah one of my Just earlier this year Tim Luna Beause. He's Filipino. Mix Right and he got into acting right when all American girl Margaret. Oh the first asian-american wave right and he played her boyfriend right. He was getting on Star Trek the next generation and then things just kind of went quiet and he's like I'm married. Kids Ed mortgage. I can't just keep doing it right. And so he went dark for like twelve. Fourteen years lost his hair right. All think But it didn't go away kind of like what you're saying and and so. I think now he's in his fifties and so with the blessing of his wife. He's like you know right. When he had got his non acting job. Hawaii five O reboot was coming out and his agent goes so they've asked you to go for the Daniel Day Kim part and he's like no recall that saying I would have beat him up man. I'm happy for him but but he's like now. I did when I was supposed to do and he ran a theatre. He was a double block but he had a stable income and stuff but now like he was like for your consideration. Best Guest Star on Emi. Now he was on Hawaii. Five O as guest star. He's a recurring character. this Amazon's series and it's funny. He one of the things he talks about is in the in the years when he went dark from the overtly creative thing like he kind of developed more depth and Gravitas as an actor as a person and even this look now with his goatee without the hair. I mean he looked. Oh that's a detective right there and even people who cast him when he was younger now that they're casting again they're like dude you know it's like you've brought something that you didn't have before maybe that's what life can do right but That was an interesting tale. Because he couldn't make it go away like and so he's being responsible and no one's GonNa fall him and he was able to take care of his family. And what have you but in the end it's like Nah. I'm Kinda built for this so it's interesting to me that in in some ways your generation candidate is kind of hitting those questions sooner right and I think because of the Internet because of something like you to where you don't have to wait to be discovered right we'll have to wait for someone's blessing and permission and money to put something out there for the world to see and like it or not right on one hand it strikes me as you. You almost have more reasons to go for it and there's different kinds of pressures lay aren't you what's stopping you. Just do it in your bedroom. Like right and then at the same time if you make it like you did on your first video. It's like a one shot deal now. Deal is is or is that the opening of a whole new space that you can uniquely occupy. You Know I. I've gotten to know some of the early Asian American Youtube artists that were very successful like Aj Rafael Right. And what things he said was of all these subscribers all these followers all these likes these nice coming up tonight do a local concert. Early buys a ticket right. And it's like I think for some real artists it's like how do I deal with that? You know and I think if you do music video parodies I mean the whole thing is video. It's I mean I'm trying to imagine you guys doing seven meets in concert. Yeah we did. I did actually come on as a guest performer. For my friend. Mickey Wong she was also in the video with Rubio with US music artists but she performed a sixty six night market and she was like. Do you WanNa come on special guest. Just be a surprise. All the Yasser. So we're thinking about our producer. Verena she so encouraging from the start she has always been like yeah we can do live performances and I've always been hesitant like it really. Is anyone really going to come? Listen to me seeing but like Korean barbecue. Anyone I really want you have to have a whole repertoire of songs. Okay let's hear seven meets again. Yeah so I mean but now that we're creating music it's it's more it's becoming more and more of a reality you know like. I didn't really think of that deeply before. Because you know with seventy I thought K. We make school project. That's that's great guy. Cenex time but I didn't really think there was gonna be like a next time you know I didn't really start thinking about like. Wow we can turn this into something because at first I thought it was just a collaborative project but seeing how big it got. It opened a lot of a lot of doors now You A lot of New People that I'm meeting a lot of projects that people want to be involved in now and a lot of faith that people having us after the first one. It's a. It's a lot of things that we did not expect. But we're very grateful for because now we have that option like I've actually. I've actually been looking into more creative fields to get into in terms of career wise. Even though I have like this whole set life you know i. You know it's it's just that that fire that starts that you kind of can't stop so now. It makes me kind of want to be like really want to do. Car accidents to my. Do I really WanNa do that or do I want to keep making stuff to put out to the world that people can enjoy south? I think I know the answer to that question. That's a kind of a rhetorical. Do it no. I don't Ya kicking you. Of course I feel like our teams so great in that way like everyone in our team has experienced self-doubt soul many times. And we like. We don't know we don't know ourselves we don't we want but we'll just like push each other or encourage each other and it just keeps happening. It's yeah well. Here's here's his advice from someone old enough to be. Your Dad Whatever you really are passionate about. And he's like you do it because it's what you were built to be eventually became you become known for it for good and for bad sometimes and I was talking to beady won a couple of weeks ago. 'cause he's experienced something we we call convergence where you don't have to work as hard after point. It's like because you're so known for it. And there's there's a certain amount of quality to what you are and what you do with it. People start identifying with that right and so like I find someone like that can do something that I need that I can't do because someone in South Africa was at this meeting and they like. Oh yeah so I'm like I know this person in Los Angeles name is Ken following. And it's like you let me give you this number because I think you guys should talk. I mean it's literally that kind of stuff now that was before a CNN and the facebook group and all of that but it sounds like you've already you've both. You've already experienced some of that convergence. Where even if that wasn't a big picture sort of plan you just this one off thing and it was collaborative fund and got kudos and stuff. It's like the the where you did. It was so excellent and so entertaining. Because there's a lot of bad stuff on youtube right and so so people and and that youtube is a cruel world right. I mean they will tell you unfiltered like what they think. They don't think it's very good. But then the flip side is also true right and so when your likes and positive comments completely outweigh the troll people right then when you do that right it's like okay so maybe we're actually good at this and people want more and then he's like well thanks but that's it. Yeah that was the concern. At first we had a long meeting after seven meets. 'cause I didn't really think about anything beyond that. I just wanted to get together. People on make something. But the fact that it yielded. So much positivity Our director Photography Ryan and our producer editor. Sabrina sat down. And we're like we can't let this die. We can't die on this hill like this so because of that. We're we're hoping to keep making things and use this platform to help address. You know a lot of things that we find important or like you know a lot of art that we'd like to see out there and it's not an easy road but we feel like it's really worth it late. There was a point in seven meets where I was like. You know very overwhelmed with how crazy everything was like. I've never been on a set like this before. I've never been set ever so a lot of these. Things are a lot of I for me but there was a part of me that was like I love this. Like maybe just maybe like meant for those who knows you know because it just filled me with so much joy and happiness and so We're horrible to keep that up. Well so let's tell our listeners. How they can watch venture that helps in a launch. Yeah the first week of us you get so what platforms. Is it primarily on going to be on Youtube yes so we are going to release it on Youtube on Sunday? We're going to release the actual time in the next day or so here and then We also released it on facebook because at seems to be very popular for everyone to like. Just scroll past year tag. Their friends share it So our Youtube Channel Name Argus who grandes and then Same thing with our facebook page as well so I guess just keep your eyes out or yeah but feel free to follow us on instagram posting pictures on updates on their. Yes yes we do. Post a lotta updates to behind scenes special. Thank you to our cast and crew Any kind of things about our upcoming projects on like we do have an original release. Date is coming out soon very soon but our instagram is our goto `Grande official. And so yeah if you follow annual no you know what things are coming up you get to be updated about our projects You get to get a little more scope in view of how our production goes like what it looks like to be on saddened to work with. Just such amazing people have such gratitude for each other so you two are living proof that Asian Americans are immensely talented. Uncreative and courageous. I guess it takes courage to go after some of these things that you know. No one's going to do it for you. You have to do it. But then the lessons you learn by doing it like that's Grad school right so I'm grateful that we can be playing a small part in helping. Make your lunch success of. Don't call me Angel would definitely WANNA WANNA get this out there so yeah thank you so much for having us. We really appreciate it. And it's nice to have a discussion kind of like more behind the scenes in understanding the things surrounding the project has posed. Just you know seeing it on youtube somewhere so well saved drive back to the OC. Yeah I think hitting downtown. La. It's that holiday season seventies dinner stuff. Sounds like such a drag must be nice. All right we're out. That between can't fund podcasts. Josh to by Christopher Wong and produced by Ken Flung and Christopher Long Special. Thanks TO TIM BE TOLD OFF. White and big phony for allowing us to use their music in this pots. For information on where you can listen to buy and download music from any of the artists appear on this show. Please visit our website at. Www DOT ASIAN AMERICA PODCASTS DOT COM? You can subscribe to this podcast by going to our website or by using itunes Detroit. What's if you like what you hear? Please tell your friends on facebook or twitter and rate and review our podcast on. It of him and to get.