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Survivor 39 Exit Interview with the Seventh Player Voted Out

Rob Has a Podcast

23:34 min | 1 year ago

Survivor 39 Exit Interview with the Seventh Player Voted Out

"Let's go rob sister Nina back with you for another survivor. Exit interview podcasts. Everyone talked to the man who was blindsided. In last night's wild tribal the council. That would be Jack Nick Tank and talk to us about his game and how that blindside unfolded from his perspective last night and much much more in our exit interview podcast last night on the podcast. A we had a real treat. Rick Devon's filled in for Stephen Fishbach on this forever. No dolls had a lengthy conversation conversation about everything that was going on a super size edition of the survivor. Know it alls last night with Rick Devon's now today we are also in for a treat. Because I'm GonNa talk to the great great chaos cast McEwen really excited for this one very pumped up to talk to cast and then over the weekend on our feedback show. We're going to talk with Sierra Eastern a two people from survivor. Second chance this week. So Sierra is going to be a guest with the feedback. Show first time. I'm ever talking to Sierra one-on-one one on one outside of the exit interview the other times that she's been on the podcast. I think we had Laura and Sierra together but this is just GonNa be Sierra coming up on Saturday so looking version get your feedback questions in Robbins website accomplish voicemail or three two three two to our AP of course you can email questions in survivor rob his website dot com as well. Before we we get to Jack let me take a moment and thank our sponsor for this episode of the Exit Interview. PODCAST and those are our friends over at Rossi's if you heard about Rossi's is there the company that's making stylish shoes for women and girls out of recycled plastic water bottles. And they're crazy comfortable and machine washable. They sent circle a pair of Rossi's. Try them out and she is a big Fan of these flats. They're the perfect everyday shoe for life on the go. 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S. dot com slash rob to get your new favorite Flats Comfort Style and sustainability. These are the shoes you've been waiting for head on over Rossi's Dot Com some snow crash rob today all right. We've got Jack on the line. Let's go ahead and patch him in Jack Are you there. What's ROB? Hey Jack how are you. Good Morning Morning I'll do Do how you doing. I'm doing all right Jack. I want to talk about this tribal council from last night because I was stunned. I suspect that you were to. How shocked you? Those two votes came up for you. Yeah so the the first vote Dean Dean vote. I had an inkling after Dean plan is idol that I was like shoot. Could maybe come for me But as sooner that's all the second vote that was the big slap in the face dot net. Wow One of the six people that I thought I was really close with those sixteen Christmas nor Janet. Ah Elliott Jamal. Five people Oh one of them betrayed me and It's funny as I walked away. My my gut immediately said I know so that it was Kelly. Okay all right and then you knew that Dean had also turned on you as well because it seemed like that you had had a good relationship ship with Dean Right. Yeah for sure. I mean we were buddies. We kinda bonded over being like the younger dudes but I mean I've been lying entire time right like I didn't realize how much he believes that you're actually both when you're I kind of thought. He knew that he was gonna go home and that we were just kind of be nice to me like hey you know we're not going to go. We're going to go nora. And and not saying to his face. Reaction sent home So I kind of knew there was kind of some fakeness to our relationship We were definitely buddies and I'm not surprised. Reprised that he wrote my name down because again I wrote hidden down. No it wasn't like one of those trade right because I was like. You don't want to be a hypocrite. Absolutely all on got it. Okay so were there any other plans. That were talked about instead of everybody. Voting for Dean like a plan to split the vote potentially yeah for sure So the day was crazy One thing actually So I listen to Jason's podcast yesterday and I've another like fun back to you. Know he talks about him dating for his cousin. And I forgot to bring this up and all the other interviews but The immunity challenge one big hot topic amongst new era was should we throw the challenge. Right five Bucks Krishnan deed. We have now the new book I or the new book down numbers like should we. Just throw this and then knock and go to tribal vote up Christmas or brought up Dean and go into the merge with Like this squad and Jamal and our very against it because the only way to guarantee that we're not going to go home as to not not go to travel and so I think Kelly was Kinda more into it I think he's actually gonNA empathize with the tribunal more and during that final needed John Utah. Close it lost freaking through seconds. Kelly actually tied her shoot while doing the puzzle For for like fifteen seconds and so she had stopped working on the puzzle and I saw that and that's when I was jumping down and I was like well you know when I got back and I really like. Hey Jamali just happened what do you think about it. And so that kind of stirred the whole. Hey you know. Should we split votes in as you think he should him in. I deviate from the plan. Not Tell anyone and throw two votes on a Nora on a Krishna. Iran Kelly just-in-case just in case Dean does play an idol. Wasn't that we thought he was going to betray. But I made it feel uneasy about going into evening and so you only deviation from voting voting all coaches Dean was me and you're going to do our little own thing where we vote for one person Just in case phase the idol The doctor and we decided not to because we Kinda knew team did not have an idol which he didn't because he would've played it at the previous tribal council we were afraid alienate nor alienate Krishna. I won't really need someone else's right before the merge because we didn't know what was actually happening on you've okay. Those puppy dog is giving us before each challenge could have been just trying to make us so we news numbers only going to the merge they just pick us off one by one so would you say that you feel like that Kelly did throw the challenge or it just so happened that she talked about potentially throwing the challenge and then also had the issue with her shoelace. I do not Kelly actually through the challenge. I think Kelly her shoe came inside and she just was so focused on it that she just tighter. Jury didn't think about it so much. So in the moment only testing through the challenge to go to try them the Idaho to do all that jazz. Okay all right now. Congratulations Jack. You're the mayor of Ponderosa. This season we can uh-huh maybe a title that you didn't expect to have. How big of a shock was it? When you found out that you were GONNA be on the jury Huge huge. It took me a minute right so I got voted out and I know what Jeff said that. But I didn't really hear it and so then I go off then I'm doing my final egg and And Joe is attacked like how about being on the jury and I was like Oh my God. You're right I'm on the jury and that was a big moment Mike. I'm so pumped to be on the jury because again like my big milestone was merged because of jury. Because the jury's stories like what signifies that you know making happy the game you get the now the rest of the game be a part of all the trouble council vote for the eventual winner. And so I didn't make emerged right but I made the Jewish like the big milestone. That really really wanted to make I was able to do so. It was kind of like that. You know that Cherry on top of that typical situation because I guess they get voted out and they can try to cheer them up and then go see what actually happens with my own eyes the lens of the camera or through word of mouth. Post the game. Yeah it takes a little bit of this thing off. I know that there's people that make the emerge and not the jury so you have the opposite of that so Nice experience -perienced to go left. Go to those travel councils. Now last week on the show Jack we at that very powerful conversation between you enjoy mall and that you you said something that was not such a great thing to say but you really own the apology about that. Hasn't been a lot of blowback towards words you or what what's been the reaction of the audience to you since that moment. Yeah reactions. Then it's been interesting. It's very much so it's been very very positive live a lot of people are kinda commending me with how responded and my eagerness to learn which I appreciate it because I wasn't very eager to learn of course there are some people that are kind of being aggressive towards me like with whether it's direct messages or does various stuff online but the vast majority is very very positive But that being said it was very interesting to watch that entire interaction from the lens of the viewers. Right there I know myself I know no I I I think I'm very Aware person a very empathetic person and very understanding person like I. I think I'd get a lot of these conversations that exist list and so it was wild to see that. Knock them through in this specific seat and I think that Kinda shows how complicated this team is right because you and I. We were best best friends since day. Too Right we made a final four lines right away and then when I go to that we really really bonded. This was genuine mia scene where I was trying to make a joke to have very close buddy of mine It was not an inappropriate joke to make But I'm grateful that Jamal was not going to define me through that moment. uh-huh and I hope that America also doesn't define me through that moment because they get it was A. It was a moment where I made a mistake and I was able to learn from it and walk away a better person a more understanding person and what was cool was that moment that was not strategic literally at all that was a removal from the game where I was trying to ensure that me and Jamal remained very close friends. Not Allies Did the relationship ship between you and Jamal Change at all. Did you become more close because of this or were you less close because of that Moment in the game I think we we were already extremely close But if anything it brought US closer together in no way did it pull it apart. I think well I know during the conversation and I know Jamal mentioned like it's hard to have these conversations because it's such like a strategic social game I it. I was never concerned about losing Jamal as an ally as we were so grain with each other already so when Janet went to the island of the idols she came back and comes back with the same story of. Yeah I was GonNa do something but I didn't WanNa do it. was there any suspicion in terms of the story that Janet gave you guys know so Jan.. This is one thing that I really really wish was shown more on the show how close Janet were. Janet was very much so I'm very close to my mom and my life. My Mom is absolutely my rock. I talked to every single okay And so on the island like Janet. I really bonded over how close I am to my Mama. I call Janet Mom. She called me son. We spent so much time together had so many beautiful conversations conversations. I'm grateful for that bird extra scene because it kind of shows interacting besides that. There's not much of a relationship between Janet. I mean even like at Tribal Council when I get voted out. I'd Janet my jacket and then yeah. I gave you my jacket as I'm walking out. So she can have that to keep her warm to got to remind her of me How'd you really hoping hoping they were going to show that but but it wasn't shown and that's totally fine but her and I were so close and she would not have lied to me At least I don't think so. When she came back she told this story and then she immediately pulled me aside and said hey like what I'm telling you the truth I'm not lying? You know I had this game I I mean. She didn't tell us about Rob Sandra but she told us exactly what I saw on screen yesterday. And so it's really cool to kind of confirm how closer and I were in that moment. Can you explain gene. What the thinking was about the women's Alliance in terms of where you guys were on? The new tribe was there a lot of discussion that was overheard word or was that just nora was putting out this idea of. Hey the women should end up working together. And that's why there was paranoia about a woman's Alliance. Yeah for sure that was definitely what. So Jamal Janet Kelly Nigh We're very very close on on new. Every single night we would all all seven of US would go hang on the beach And watch the sunset and then nor Krishnan Dean would sponsor off and go to bed. And then Kelly Janelle and I would stay up for hours Talking talking about the game figuring out what we wanted to do because with the four of us we had the majority and so we were all super super tight and then through Janet and through Kelly we hear about Nora and then even through D we hear about talking about this woman's Alliance But we were never truly concerned about it. 'cause we knew Janet wasn't about it like Janet made it very very clear in this episode and to us that she's not about to follow this woman because she wants everyone to work together. She doesn't care about women's care about all men she cares about men and women working together. Better as a cohesive unit like she said tribal which was beautiful So like although it was a thing although it was not talking about that we were never trudy concerned about it happening because Janet was so incredibly coast and she was like our bridge to that conversation. Okay so what was it like living with Nora. Once you guys swap to the new line Arrow tribe nor right. Yeah I first of all I love nor she is incredible but it was It's interesting we go to seek right A.. And then Nora turns on and then we start hearing all these funny crazy stories about. Noah's life experiences and I again she didn't really. We didn't talk at hunter honey strategy so I didn't see all these plans that she was trying to make happen. So all I really got was like this very loud very energetic. Very health off centered person And it was. I mean it was just an interesting. It sounds very big but it was just such an interesting experience to be able to be be on the beach with Nora so like all nineteen days. I was in the game. I was with Nora and that was pretty cool. 'cause I think in some ways they talk I think molly how she opens coke and all the time. This woman opens coconut literally all the time. She is nonstop opening of coconut. That we always have fifty coconuts hanging around the camp. And it's I mean you can always eat but take a break. Let's slow down. We don't just want code but you know we all have to eat and I I looked super skinny any I didn't have much way to lose them. The game started And I lost twelve pounds and getting bones and Nor was always funny. 'cause she always like Jack. You need more rice right. I'm not going to be that guy that I'm not gonNA ever really fall into that trap. Not just US trying to send you a but she was true looking after me and I was like knowing find yours. We didn't make more rice jacket. I'm like no no no she goes. Jackie need more rice. I know all about health. You're struggling you're starving. Had more food and I'm like no no. Please don't don't even talk about and you might just doesn't exist right now. That's fine if you WANNA see Jack. Some of the weight back on check out the Ponderosa video that the first of the point solutions civilians are here. If you want to check out rival Ponderosa there was another secret seen this week where we got to see you in action with some of your hip hop aren be Capella is it. Is it possible Jack could you. Could you give listeners a sample anything about the your your survivor. Experience that you WANNA share in Acapella with our listeners. ooh that's hard okay Let's think Hungry I would win the effort. I gotTa Big Hamburger and some ice cream Thank I apologize for putting you on the spot but thank you for that however you want out a little better than the people to be able to do something with that Jack. Thank you very much for coming on your a lot of fun to talk to and looking forward to seeing you on the jury all season. Yeah I'm excited for you. Ought to see how much weight do game back to watch. We'll see if you go past where you started from over the course of twenty three days so it'd be interesting experience. Oh my goodness I can't tell you. How much spoiler spoiler? If you do not sure how we're very positively okay. All Right Jack. Take Care Buddy bye thank you bye. I know Like A -vivor tell us how much weight they gain across the rest wrestle again. It look that people are spoiler over so we'll just tread lightly in stay out of that all right so there you go jack. Nicholson the Jack. I really didn't have a lot of expectations Going into the exit interview today. But I thought that Jack was actually very fun to talk about it. I thought that Mike from I'm talking about going to the preseason and I think Josh is well talked about that Jack was you know really fun to talk to and his energy really came through. I think that really came through on the exit interview today. So there you go. That's the mayor of Ponderosa for season. Thirty Nine Jack. Nick Tang all right. We are going to get ready to talk to chaos casts here in just a little bit. 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Delegate Emily Brewer: IPAs, Foster Care and the GOP Minority

Transition Virginia

24:40 min | 9 months ago

Delegate Emily Brewer: IPAs, Foster Care and the GOP Minority

"The welcome to Transition Virginia. I'm Michael Pope journalist with Virginia public radio here with my co host Democratic Strategist Thomas Bowman. And we're here today to document. Virginia's transition of power from Republican to Democratic Control. Hi Michael we have a great show today. Republican delegate. Emily brewer is with us. I delegate brewer. Thanks for having me guys. Thanks for coming. Thank you. So Elliott Moore. Can you tell us about yourself your corner Virginia and about some of your constituents basic priorities just to get us started absolutely so I- rivers in the more rural part of Virginia? So I have the area between android Richmond really so the rural parts of Suffolk I'll Wake County Surrey. County and Prince George County so I have a areas pretty expansive well over a thousand square miles. Probably in the Ballpark of say over fifteen hundred square miles. Lot of area about two hours across You know but we have very diverse interests. You know I wanNA district. That's in the richmond metro that start about seventeen miles from here and the others district is kind of pseudo. Hampton roads in the middle of is southside Virginia. So probably one our biggest issues. We have in rural areas especially right now that we've made a priority is broadband rural Brodmann. And you're on the road broadband commission. I'm on the Braga. Advisory Council yesterday movement on that this in terms of expanding broadband into rural absolute still actually in last year's budget. They put nineteen million dollars aside In grant funding for localities to apply for and so in that first round of funding one of my localities Surrey. Just got a two point two five million dollar grant to do that last mile broadband deployment which is huge step in the right direction I think in rural areas oftentimes people thought that broadband kind of felt like the city was kind of the country We've moved past that. The businesses realize it's part of their everyday life. They realize it's not normal for kids to go drive to the library parking lot to do their homework in. So you know. We're we're in the right direction to be able to do that. So we're in a good spot. Good I want to ask you about the transition of power here. This is the theme of our podcast. Explain what that's like so someone from Mars. It's not hasn't seen any of this. How would you explain that different so for me? Then I gotta look. I got elected in two thousand seventeen so this is my first one term in the majority and this'll be my first term in the minority. But you know I came in the night that the house when two fifty one forty nine and so I always operate a little bit differently and so one of the things that I do is especially with the bills that I put forth in the things I'm working on. I don't think about that building in terms of Republican and Democrat Every single time even when we are the majority I print the list of every person subcommittee that I've got to go see. I go talk to them and educate them on my bill. You know you can't assume because you're in the majority or the minority that you know your bills locked up Because when we were in the majority we killed Republican bills as well. Democrat bills You know bad policies policy and so I think that I operate the same in the minority. That did the majority but I think that the people have been here. You know more than a decade or so. It's probably more adjustment for those folks and it would be for somebody like me. Oh really explained that. Well I you know I've never been a subcommittee chair or chairperson of a committee and so You know going from a position like that to be an irregular member again on committee. I'm sure is a big change but one I've never been able to experience. I got to spend a little bit of time as a staffer in the minority. But I've never gotten to experience what it's like in the majority so by impression at least from the outside looking in the majority seemed to usually have a game plan a had an idea of what was going to happen to bills. Can you provide any insight as to what the new majority is dealing with right now at this point in time? So here's what I would say is this is that when Republicans are in the majority one of the hardest things that whenever does is probably kill. Someone's bill that there are a friend with right and so I would say that the Democratic majority is probably going through that right now I was appointed to appropriations this year. And so I saw a lot of thank you. I saw a lot of people that were reporting and referring bills who preparations and so with. That's a function of really is. Some people just weren't willing at that point to say no to their friends yet or You know so they kind of pass the buck a little better. They referred to another committee in. So you know I think probably the struggles of being the majority especially this year. There's a ton of budget amendments more than they had ever seen ever in the history of the House so when you have that situation you got to say no to somebody right. I mean we don't print money at Richmond and so that's the hard part probably I would say it'd be the majority with those people. Making those decisions is that not. Everybody is going to get what they want in learning to deal with that new normal is going to be a learning curve for the majority. Let's go off topic. Let's go up and just for a second day so You own and operate a crash. Is it craft beer and wine store? Yeah the craft beer and wine. Certain downtown Suffolk uncorked on again. How long has it been opened? I've had it for three and a half years. Actually it. It's fun. I kind of joked that being elected. That's that's the stressful partway. So I get to a really cool business where you know. It's Kinda laid back in unique so I enjoy coolest of alkyl businesses. Okay so let's talk. I like my Arpaio hoppy. What's the best for me? Okay but like where do you want to be on like how Nerdier we get into this conversation? Because we can talk about this. That's about work better. Do you like it you know I like it real earthy and kind of Hopping like super happy. Do you like hazy. Hazy is good. Yeah okay And also let's stay inside Virginia to get into that okay. I'm Deborah. I like some crazy beer. I would say some of the best breweries right now. Doing great craft beer. Virginia that are producing some awesome hops. I would say precarious your project in Williamsburg is doing a really good job. Right now I just actually recently had their Kung Fu kittens. Ip that's amazing Kung-fu kitten. Yeah yes. It's delicious stuff. Michael's taking notes. I see the silence guys. That's note taking and would also say that we. Gosh we have some really good craft Virginia. I can't lie But you know traditions is been rolling out some really quality beers recently They just did are a limited released triple Ip. Which was there veterans Bro. That was incredible to okay so I like wheat beer. Sour Beers that kind of labor. So what should I be drinking? Okay so If we'RE GONNA STICK WITH VIRGINIA FOR ONE FENCH LADY IN WHITE. Heff OF IS AN AMAZING. And then if you're going to sours Virginia's trying to step up their Sour Game. But right now anything from collective arts is pretty incredible and they're out of Canada Arts lady in White Hyphen Yeah. I'm going to have to try that. Yeah okay one thing. That was noteworthy about the Terry McAuliffe administration. Is How many beer industry people he brought to. Virginia especially brewers that were putting their second location. And I'm thinking about stone for example and that there was a number of those. So what did you make Terry McAuliffe sort of playing economic opportunity with all these beer companies? So I think it's great actually. So ironically my first year here with my friend. Mike Mullen on the other side of the aisle We Co founded the Virginia Wine Caucus. Because Terry McAuliffe had taken this huge opportunity on to really talk about you know growing the beer industry in Virginia last year. Yeah time and we have sixty some legislators come from the House of Senate last year but the crazy thing is is that they didn't really talk about wine right so I'm like okay I can take this on Do you know me wonder. He's women Virginia autonomous in Hollywood. You saying I would say two hundred fifty. We're pushing like three ninety five ninety five and because a lot of people don't know that so kind of our goal is because Terry McAuliffe to gun beer so Mike Melania GonNa take online. They'll get more. That was the thing we're going for a classic Virginia Wine. What are we drink so I really like Early Mountain Red They're really good and then almost any Virginia. Winery does some incredible vignette. But you know it's really important that we support agritourism. It's a huge part of the agriculture economy in Virginia. And so For me especially you know. I'm a big advocate for agriculture. So I think Supporting these industries and tourism is really important for a Commonwealth so One thing about your operating style that might be a little bit different than other lawmakers hit on this before is that you'd like to take a sort of a nonpartisan approach to things and I think looking at the list of your bills you you see things like emergency evacuation foster care things that people don't associate necessarily with partisan politics. I would imagine there's not much of a partisan political debate about emergency evacuation. Maybe or is there. I don't know There is there is a little some tweaks made to the bill that the administration wasn't Quite sure on so one of my bills actually was the original form. My Bill I was trying to add. Emergency evacuation routes to the criteria for smart scale We edited that back. So that way The administration sort backup explain. Smart scale so smart skills are road rating system that we use To assign out all of our funding in Virginia or the majority of refunding Virginia for major road projects. So there's all these different criteria that are involved Everything from environment to quality to safety To all traffic congestion all these issues and so I wanted to add. Emergency evacuation routes to part of that criteria. Because I think that's noteworthy you know Everyone talks about Christmas tree bills and they don't WanNa hang more things on something but you know for a million Virginians getting out of hand wrote. It's kind of important. And so where is this now? What happened to so I worked with Transportation Committee. We brought it back. We took it by for the week. we worked at out a couple of weeks ago. And so what we're going to do now is every time road. Transportation Project is assessed the people in that decision making process going to be made aware that the road that this is being considered for funding is part of an emergency evacuation route. Because I think that's important that they're aware of that so now when they're going through that criteria and that evaluation. They're going to know so that way. They can consider that in their decision. Great so the Senate okay in short okay off off to the Senate that getting it through the house is of course no hard or no easy. Challenge so now it's off to the Senate. The Senate is its own. Beast right so you know. I. I don't know if you guys overheard this but a lot of people say that in the House. The people on the other side of the aisle are your opposition. The people at the end of the building actually your enemy I had good luck in the Senate though not everyone Gambles as much in the Senate and wins You know I'm feeling positive about good. We'll be watching how the bill goes and good luck to you thank you. Let's engage zone. Wild speculation so. I'm sure you've been following the primary for governor on the Democratic side lots of candidates Thomas who the candidates reminded us again in here. Makala is potentially so a lot of speculating. Lot of wildly speculative candidates so though role for Roy has been documented by the Washington. Post about Adam. Evan potentially Senator McClellan and Tony Lavar Stony Terry McAuliffe. And of course the one guy who is at this point in time still running as Attorney General Mark Caring and Justin Fairfax and Joe. He's so renting. That's right anyway. There's a lot of names out there. I mean it's this something. That's it's not formalized. He had cursed because Well very few people formally announced their candidacy. What do you? What's your wild speculation if you had to sort of place a bet on it. Let's say betting a dollar. I don't think that the wild speculation but if Terry McAuliffe gets in this race I think he's going to run away with it. I mean you know. He had an effervescence about him That people really really love across Virginia. So I think that that that will be my wealth speculation that it'll be Terry McAuliffe In if not I think it will be. Actually it'll be a dogfight between Terry McAuliffe and Jennifer Mill. The word dogfight just throwing it out there. I didn't I mean I think I think so. Terry is from the Northern Virginia. Jennifer McCullough's from Richmond. So when you have two candidates from different parts of the state you know there's there's a lot of ground to split there and so when you have two people from the same area you know you're going after the same amount of folks. I think that them tubing from different parts of the state significant that wild speculation. Your point about the geographic difference. You guys think though I agree with you actually I think of Terry runs. If he runs he has he still has the machine in places season swagger and all of those people over. Dv were his appointees people liked cherry in two thousand thirteen. There are a lot of Democratic or not so much primary voters. There wasn't a primary thirteen but a lot of Democrats who expected a primary Hate say they pulled the lever while holding their nose for Terry and I think they were very pleasantly surprised with the way his administration turned out I would think he's well positioned to come back and run but if he doesn't run to your point about northern. Virginia I actually think is going to be somebody to watch. Is that your wild speculation? That is my wild speculation. The reason I think is somebody watched voice up in Prince William County which is a very different type of northern Virginia and then Fairfax Arlington Alexandria. Right so if you're delegate foy and you're running for governor You need to pull like fifty fifty in Hampton roads. Which is doable for someone like delegate. Foy same in Richmond which will see especially if McClellan is running for governor and then in northern Virginia probably the best way to generate some support would be making a class war right. Prince William County is a very different economic class than Rich White Arlington Fairfax loud. And if you can peel off one four suburban voters that way that that's her path to victory. I'm not sure how doable it is. Terry McAuliffe's in the race. You know what I mean right. So what about you Michael? The thing that I'm curious about is if McClellan and Carrol foy both run against Makarov do they kind of split the anti McCullough votes as it was like the pro McCullough vote of course all goes for McCulloch but then what if McClellan and Carrol foy are both in a race and sort of split the opposition and that helps McCullough. Of course I mean. That's sort of like a creeds wins the primary kind of scenario you know. I think I think this is intense. I gotta ask the big question. How many people are going to be the primary before we get that far in the weeds? That's the big question. And it's a plurality takes all Virginia right so conceivably if you're someone like Terry McAuliffe and you're coming in with let's just say a thirty percent of the vote just off the bat no matter what he does. If you're in a five six way primary you can win with thirty percent of ranked choice voting. I mean I know that talking about right. Ranked choice voting. Is that going to happen with this? Election Cycle Are we. Let's move on and talk about a couple last issues. I WANNA get to while you're here education funding then. I also WanNa talk about one of your votes to decriminalize cannabis because that is something definitely in the podcast listener demographic so let's do five minutes. We'll wrap it up. Tell us about you've been. You've made education funding priority for Louis in foster care so talk about a couple of parties real quick so You know the first lady is doing an incredible job especially with her preschool initiative Which you know. I was glad to support on the education sub In appropriations I think that Which is very well thought. Out To make insurance specially that we're working with the youngest and the least to make sure that they have the best shot you know a full robust education. And so she's doing in you know has done incredible work in that field. And she's an educator so her heart's in it and so I was glad to support her. Vpi initiative One of the things I worked on my first year and I'm still working on Senator Mason I actually are the CO chairs. The Oscar Caucus in Virginia in Virginia in They'll be doing New Hampshire here shortly. But two years ago we were forty-ninth of fifty in the country for foster care policies placements in the lake. Reunification all these different metrics. I mean we were just awful And so what our goal was and I was adopted. So that's something that I'm passionate about making sure kids. Have you know a kid in foster care should have every single opportunity every other kid? Has You know what I mean. They should go to school. They should be able to learn Without Struggle They should be able to. You know living normal everyday life and it's hard for kids and Fusco they're already ripped out of you know Their core situation and they're dealing with a lot of different situation so What our goals was when we started busker caucus was to work on setting policies. Fourth totally revamp that system so two years ago we were forty nine fifty and in the past two and a half years. We have done the most meaningful overhaul foster care and adoption policies since nineteen eighty two. And I wasn't born then so yeah Senator Mason is been incredible to work with He's really got a heart for this and we're not stopping so You know we've worked in close relative adoption to make sure we expand that definition of family You know the code never thought years ago that we would have grandparents or great grandparents raising children right Kind of offering that Kinship care is with the new term for that is So I passed the Kinship Guardianship Assistance. Act Two years ago to really work on Making sure that we can put their next of kin. Said set of some of them may be halfway across Virginia to Open Foster Care. Placement at upsetting. You know the root of their life so It's one of the main things I worked on. You know it's it's it's something I'm going to continue to work on whether it's a hot button issue or not. You know it's important to Virginia. That's excellent work. I hope you're able to continue that effort in the future. Lastly So last week we spoke briefly about the decriminalization bill which Just in the past few days since we published has now passed. So can you talk to us about why you joined a handful of other Republican? Legislators in making this a priority are you shocked not at all. I think it's the right thing do So I think there's a couple of reasons for this there are some real technical reasons And then there are probably a couple of other reasons. I talk about in a second but So when we were in the majority I was actually giving the appointment on the Forensic Science Board While back and if you knew the backlogs The state lab. It's it's absolutely incredible and you know one of the big issues. Obviously we know also the OPIOID crisis. I wanted to talk about how marijuana affects that in the court system and a testing situation. And why you know. I I think that Just from a strategic standpoint. It's really important. Actually so nuclear crisis is so incredible because people are making these drugs right so people don't realize when something gets an offer testing especially if he's going before a court of law what has to happen is there's a scientist you know over the state lab a couple blocks up. They have to go through and build the exact A format with that drug is out and provide that to the court will. The problem is almost every single. Opioid is mechanically different. There's there's different pieces of everything and so when someone else to go and testify before court of law. They have to break that completely down. Talk about what it is in. You know there's a backlog for major issues and I think that marijuana was one of them Backlog there so I think that Especially for mistake lab perspective. Think is important that they to the meat of their work And you know I think it's a great criminal justice reform initiative we need to keep criminals or committing crimes In Jail I just. I think that it's time that that we find people for just like the bill says we find people for Decriminalization instead of locking them up one final thing before we release you from our studio to let you go off and do all those lawmakers door something. This is something we say we do here called. Plug it where you can plug something. You can get marketing to something. Let people know about an organization or a bill or something that's on the horizon so go ahead and plug it hilarious. I got to I thought about an I said I gotTa do to so voices Virginia. Children that I talked about a little bit ago. they're a great organization that's really fostering policies To advance education initiatives for children in Virginia. False care initiatives and the like so building a great family to plug this particular organization. Bec- I I've been working very closely with them over the past couple of years legislation for Foscari adoption and they've been with me every step of the way and they care about Virginia's kids so they're important to me And then the other one is. Virginia's kids belong Former Secretary Komo's Janet Kelly. She worked in the McDonnell administration. She started working with. Virginia's kids belong in Virginia in what their goal is to work with all spheres of the community whether it be a private public churches businesses. Whatever so they can find a way to kind of plug in to this industry Whether it be putting together Foster kids for kids going into foster care working with churches or civic groups find more people are willing to be foster parents Working on people to ease The tumultuousness of the adoption process is so they're trying to work with public private business and government entities to be able to make sure they're nibbling at all all edges of the cookie to make sure that we do a better job with adoption foster care. Thank you so much today. Eliot thanks for listening to transition. Virginia if you want to add your two cents. Send us an email at transition. Va podcast at gmail.com and we might featured on the show. You can find the podcast on itunes. Google podcast spotify. And wherever you get your puppets if you like the show please leave us a rating. Share it with your friends. We are on twitter at transition via. I'm Thomas Bowman Michael. Pope IS CO host. 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OA256: The Bladensburg Cross

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OA256: The Bladensburg Cross

"Find the guilty. John Brill's bond to be guilty of been to lure show. What's the constitution was in breach? There is no one section just the vibe the thing. Objection your honor what leading the witness. Required bullets lawyers. Welcome to opening arguments. The podcast that pairs inquisitive interviewer with the real life. Lawyer this podcast is sponsored by the law offices of p Andrew Torres LLC for entertainment purposes, is not intended as legal advice does not form attorney client relationship. Don't take legal advice from podcast. Hello and welcome to opening arguments. This is two hundred fifty six I'm Thomas myth out over there as your lawyer Lee host Andrew Torres. How you doing, sir? Hey thomas. I am doing fantastic. I'm very very excited about today's show. How are you? I'm excited to it's always fun to have a guest come on. And explain something that someone who's working in on a case that we've been talking about. And that's the case today. It is Sarah Henry from the American humanist association, and we're going to be talking about the Bladensburg cross. You know, Andrew, it's totally normal. Totally non religious forty foot tall cross. I know one of those things I have one in my backyard as an atheist, I just, you know, I've just normal nonreligious cross that I like to keep forty foot high cross. Yeah. Yeah. It's. Did it? It's difficult to explain right to somebody who has an and and I used to live reasonably close to Bladensburg. Right. It is it is just a cross. It's the neighboring county to Montgomery County where where I used to live, and it is the way in which I have seen this giant cross described in the media it almost it's hard to. It's almost hard to recognize from the descriptions, right? Like like it. You know, it aronie Asli is, you know, sometimes described as like being in a cemetery. Right. It's not we'll get. We'll get into all that with Sarah on the show. I'm really looking forward to that. It's absurd. But yeah, that's often the time the case with Christian privilege. Yes. We'll get into all that with with Sarah. I'm excited. But first, we've got an injury was right. I encourage Andrew due to do this. Because you know, I think he gets too much flack when he gets a minor detail wrong. And not enough credit when he gets a major prediction, right? And so victory lap time. When you think veto, please answer the question does the defense case hold water. Now Andriol tonight, you know, that well given the opportunity I'll I'll take my victory lap. We we alluded to this in in an aside on a rabbit trail on Friday show, but the the supreme court unanimously handed down its ruling in the Tim's versus Indiana. That was the case involving the incorporation doctrine of incorporating out, the eighth amendment on excessive fines and bail to the state. And you might recall that being we broke that down in episode two thirty four and and I predicted that the that the court would pretty noncontroversial and across political lines. Nhs would would incorporate out the eighth amendment to the state, and they and so I'm gonna include the ruling in the show notes. We could there's in a future episode. Maybe we will talk about the the Thomas and Gorsuch concurrence because even non-controversial nine oh decision. Neal Gorsuch manages to scare the clown horn Adamy. But yeah, you know, but but now we got we got this end. Look, it is absolutely the right result. Right. That that the there is I cannot come up with a valid justification that the eighth amendment's prohibition on excessive fines should not be incorporated out to the states. And and now it is. So what are they going to be the effects of this? I mean, are we gonna see a major curtailing of seizing all this properties? Like is it how I guess how good are the results of this. Is it going to be some narrow? Thing. That's not applied everywhere is, you know, or or do you think this will make sleeping quick change in how police policy works? Well, I think I would I think I would shoot somewhere in the middle of those two extracts. This is an area asset forfeiture is an area that has come under scrutiny recently, both left and right. And, you know, those, you know in the next, you know, in the forseeable future, right? The the avenues towards validating individual rights in the supreme court are ones that are going to produce. You know, sort of odd alliances right from the courts left wing to the courts, right wing. And and and civil forfeiture is an area that you know, it brings together the, you know, the left's concern about fairness with the rights concern about protecting property rights. And and so I I think I mean, the, you know, the language in the case gives you know, is not it's not narrowly construed, so it does give kind of strong potential avenue, and you know, it again the way in which case law builds up is, you know, so a factual case by case basis. But, but I I would not be surprised to see us continue to make progress in this area, even at the supreme court level. So all right. A rare bit of good news. Thank. I well, this is the secular show thank heaven. You know, it is that still. Okay. Speaking of which why don't we grab a Sarah Henry, get her on the line and discuss totally nonreligious everyday. Theus secular forty foot crosses that sounds great. And we're here with Sarah Henry, how you doing Sarah, Jane, great. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you for coming on. We're excited to have you. And you're going to give us an update on the Bladensburg cross cases that right, right? Yes. Okay. Well, where we wanna start Andrew so Sarah. I mean, why no one we just talk a little bit about about the history of the case. And you know, what's. Kinda give some background than we can talk about. What what a is doing? And what what you and I are going to be doing tomorrow in terms of being out on the on the steps of the supreme court to to to have a rally. So once you just go ahead gonna start it share. So and just about five years ago actually this month, February the American humanist association filed a complaint on behalf of three local residents in Bladensburg Maryland against the Maryland, national park and planning commission regarding the constitutionality of this memorial. This currently stands in the town of Bladensburg. So the monument is a forty foot tall Christian cross Christian concrete cross it stands in the middle of a highway intersection. Really, right. When you enter the town. So you come over the bridge from fifty inches. To Bladensburg Maryland. And really the first thing you see, and it seems to be a really serious imposition of church onto state operations. The government actually pays for the maintenance of the cross Dave invested just over one hundred thousand dollars of taxpayer funds into the maintenance of the cross up until this point, and they have another hundred grand earmarked for additional restoration of the of the Christian symbol. So of course, we see this as a violation of the separation of church and state mandated by our constitution and move some serious concerns about the entanglement of religion and government, especially in this town and the American Legion intervened. The district court the for fourth circuit district court found in our favor in favor of the American humane association in our our clients and the American Legion and the Maryland commission appealed to supreme court. So that's where we're at now. And we'll be hearing arguments in front of the court. Next tomorrow on February twenty seventh. Yes. So let let me talk a little bit about the the procedural history. The when HA initially filed they they went before the district court district, Maryland lost at the district court level. And I wanna talk a little bit about about what happened there in terms of the factual record. And then the fourth circuit court of appeals reversed in you know, what to me I'm gonna link it in the show notes is is a totally straightforward decision. And and I think all of us were kind of on eggshells win. The case was appealed to the supreme court and the supreme court granted cert because you know, this this to me this is a totally straightforward application of the lemon test. Right. And we've talked about lemon verse Kertzman on the show. But essentially right in order to. In order for government efforts not to run afoul of the establishment clause. They have to meet all three prongs of the lemon test, right? In other words, the law must have a secular purpose. It's primary effect must be neither to inhibit nor to advance religion. And it must not foster excessive entanglement with religion. You had kind of let off Sara with saying. You are concerned about the entanglement portion of of that test. Is that is that where sort of the AJ is putting its efforts or, you know, talk to me about about what you think or the or the entanglement questions. Sure. So I think we have concerns pretty pretty grave concerns about the entanglement as well as the advancement of Christianity to the exclusion of other faiths. Thanks to this monument. The entanglement questions, I think are relatively clear we. Certainly agree with a lot of what the fourth Circuit Judge said in his decision. I think he laid it out. Very clearly we think that the cross is a clear entanglement on. There's really no separating it from the government when you drive through the highway. It's very clear that that is property that belongs to the local government because it is directly in the middle of the intersection. It's not even really off to the side or anything that could be construed as private property. So it seems very clear in addition to that funds do go directly to the maintenance of the memorial. So that seems to be up to us and to the fourth circuit clear violation. So so let's let's let's run through each of these three. Because again, I want to emphasize for our listeners that if if the action violates any one of the provisions of the lemon test than than it is unconstitutional and model. And Molly rushing listeners because is the lemon tests still good or did, you know, the last decision that we talked about you know, that that with the the playgrounds and stuff that seemed to not go the way we hit hoped. It would go is the lemon tests still what we think they're using in the supreme court, so lemon versus Kertzman covers right? The first amendment has two religion clauses. Right. The first is the free exercise clause guarantee that is covered or or so we thought by employment division versus Smith. Right. That basically says again up until recently, we thought that general laws of neutral applicability would apply regardless even if they incidentally, Burton your religion so long as they you know, they do not directly target your religion. And that's where you know, the last the last couple of decisions that we've dealt with have have focused on. On the free exercise clause. This this is the lemon test covers the establishment portion, right? The government may not establish a religion. But, but yeah, I mean, I agree with you Thomas that I think that this is potentially a vehicle for the supreme court, which we've already discussed has a pretty dim view of precedent to just Chuck out the the lemon test in its entirety. And when you read the briefings, right when you read the briefs that were filed in this case by both the Maryland, national capital park, planning commission and the American Legion, they essentially invite this supreme court to overrule lemon. So in in. I mean in kind of walking through it seems to me the the that this is why the fourth circuit really had no difficulty concluding that that violated the limited the first is. I mean, let's let's talk about the. The the district court's determination that a forty foot high cross made out of cement, and again, this is the. You're crucifying on that cross. Yeah. No. I mean, you know, it is it is obviously a, you know, a blatantly sectarian symbol, the the district court said that that it it had a secular purpose. And and and there were number one that the cross has been primarily used for veterans events yet. Go ahead. I mean, I think I think they're probably wrong on all of these facts. But, but but we talk a little bit about that shares. The point that the cross the point that Christian cross is a surf secular purpose is just frankly, not true. The cross was erected for religious reasons. The town commission that approved it did. So because they wanted to honor the religious faith of veterans who who were killed in World War One. And they when they dedicated the cross initially the dedication involved Christian services. They rededication in nineteen eighty-five involved Christian services. There have been Christian services held at the cross. It has served. Sorry. Sorry. But what what kind of Christian services have been held at this cross. So the American Legion, and the sort of group that was involved in the initial founding of the cross has brought a Christian ministry, Christian worship leaders to the cross to lead veterans in service will the that seems pretty straight. Do the John Oliver. We got him over. Yeah. Case. Well, in fact, the cross was specifically like this specific symbol the Christian cross was chosen to specifically represent a likeness of the cross of Calvary as described in the bible. So it was very clear and the first committee that oversaw the effort to design. The cross was literally named the Calvary cross memorial committee. There's really no question. But is it going those kinds of things where because Christians in this country are blind to the Christian privilege? They have they just think like, oh, no. This is the thing. Everybody does right is. It's not just Christians. We all love our crosses worshipping at them. That's just a normal everyday. American thing. We have a lot of frustration. Because they think this cross really does not only does it represent Christianity and Christian sort of. Points of view throughout the community. The original cross and the plaque that is attached to the cross that I'm lists the names of forty nine veterans that are from the area intentionally excludes a number of Jewish veterans from the area who served in many of the same regiments as the Christian men who are listed. There's really no question that this memorial has been Christian and religious in nature since the day. It was conceived. Thomas you were a little bit prescient there. The next argument that was raised by the the Maryland parties and accepted by the district court was that again, I'm quoting directly from the district court here that crosses are generally regarded as commemorative symbols for World War. What? So, you know. Another point that just isn't true, the common symbol for World War. One memorial is actually the secular Doboy. He can be found at a number of World War One memorials, including another one World War. One memorial in Bladensburg, Maryland. Oh my gosh. Well, what about right the third justification that's listed here. And let me put this in context. Right. That they that the district court said that that secular war memorials surround the cross. And this is, you know, for analogy purposes, the idea that, you know, if you have, you know, the little baby Jesus in a manger as your Christmas displays long as you put, you know, a minora up, and a, you know, a kwanza candle and a couple of other things that you know, that putting additional stuff around it imbues an overall display with with a secular character of you know, in that case celebrating the holidays. How does how does that justification kind of matchup with with the Bladensburg cross? I it's just not super realistic. When you go to the cross, it is true that you can see other secular warm Oriels around. And in fact, many of them all of those secular warm Oriels are beautiful. They are artful. They appropriately honor those that they are meant to honor. There's a scroll awa- a plaque number of things that actually we would find wholly acceptable in the area where the Bladensburg crosses located. But the fact that those memorials exist sort of sort of centrally and do not mitigate the fact that the Bladensburg cross is forty feet tall, it dominates the landscape when you come into the town. It's impossibly hard to notice the other memorials when they're sort of off to the side away from the road and the Bladensburg cross dominates. The intersection. We'll we'll I guess let's go to let's go to the the the last couple the the district also pointed out that that the American Legion symbol is on the face of the cross. And they said look that those are that that is a secular attribute. What what what are your thoughts on that? I don't think there's any disagreement that the American Legion symbol is a secular sort of symbol. I don't think a small plaque on a forty foot tall Christian cross discounts. The fact that across is a Christian symbol. And in addition to that the American Legion symbol is not the only thing on that cross. In fact, there are number of words, carved sort of mounted on the cross and one of those words is devotion. And interestingly devotion is not mentioned in any of the secular warm Oriels that surround that area are can be found in that sort of area of the city of the town. It's clear that when they said devotion. It was meant to be a reference to devotion to a Christian God. No that I I I'm doing my best to make the the the devil's advocacy arts down. That's that's that's a tough one. I it is there anything else. I mean, one of the things, you know, we've had interest idol on from from Morella and foundation, and and one of the things that Andrew, and I have talked about on a number of occasions in these kinds of cases is the the sort of repackaging rewriting of the facts at the supreme court level that that sometimes goes on. And are there any other sort of efforts to re characterize what this giant cross is? You know in the middle of busy intersection in Prince, George's county, Maryland like is there anything else where you see where we're, you know, you're kind of watching efforts to rewrite history take place before your eyes. And and it's worth. You know, sort of clarifying. No, that's not those aren't the facts. Yeah. I think one of those things is that there's some sentiment that the cross serves as a tombstone for those families whose war dead were buried overseas. And while that's an absolutely heartbreaking position. Frankly from a military family end. I completely understand the devastation that comes with losing a loved one to war. This isn't that case? And in fact, we fully support an effort to memorialize all veterans. And in fact, this cross was rededicated in nineteen eighty five to honour quoting from the city here all veterans of all wars. There's just no way that a Christian cross can do that. We're really trying to find something that can on our veterans of all wars. But I think this idea that it's tombstone or a grave marker is really a a misconception. There's no-one buried near that cross. It's an intersection. In fact, it's one of the busiest intersections in the county. It's it's really just disruptive. And would be frankly, a terrible tombstone. So I think that's one concern. I think another concern is that just this idea that Christian symbol, can you know, legitimately represent everyone. We know that it can't Ray we've spoken to so many veterans so many veterans have reached out to us whether they're non nonreligious from a minority religion or even Christian who've reached out to as just said like, I we haven't especially compelling story. Actually from one of our one of our good friends who has reached out to us and said, I'm a Christian. I'm very devout. But I served in the military for my country. I didn't serve in the military for my religion. And when I die I want the government to recognize my service, and I want my family to recognize my religion. And I think that that's just such an impactful point of view, right? Like, these people served with people from from minority faiths and no faith. And this memorial is frankly disrespectful to that service. So I completely agree with that. What does the American humanist association? What what do you want done with the cross? Right. I mean, do you want you want it torn down or, you know, do we wanna hang a couple of other religious symbols on it? Like, what do you want to do? So I think that idea putting other religious symbols near it is really not a realistic option. The cross is so big that it would be near impossible for any symbol to match the sort of towering presence. That's let's get a fifty foot Islam a crescent and a hundred foot high star of David, and, you know, be like that persona the Simpsons where all the billboards. Sorry. Anyway, I didn't mean to interrupt for Easter. More than that. There's just not that much space. Right. It's a highway intersection. There's not a whole lot of space there. It's really challenging even to get to the cross to to view it and look at the plaque. And learn more about it. I think we really agree with what the fourth circuit put forward, which is that we would accept reassign sorry reshape remove or reassign the ownership. So I think seeing that cross move to private land would be excellent opportunity for its historical value to remain while still not presenting the idea, and the image that the blatant the town of Bladensburg is sort of this Christian enclave, but also removing it in entirely or reshaping it would also be wholly acceptable. So when you say reshape tell me what that means. So I think removing or rebuilding or renovating to a secular symbol there are so many warm Oriels that are wholly secular. Into a great job of honoring the many veterans who have given their lives in sacrifice to our country. I think there are a lot of options here that you could reshape that memorial into an obelisk we could rebuild around it. It is sort of falling down. I'm not sure if you've had the opportunity to go visit. But despite the fact that the town has earmarked another hundred thousand dollars for rent for maintenance, the there are some experts who believe that the structural damage to the cross is such that not even that sort of renovation efforts will be enough to protect it. So it may come down on its own, frankly. But I think there are a lot of secular options here, the scroll the Doboy. There are just so many great things that other towns in our national government have really invested in to find. They've invested the time energy in the resources to find something that does honour all of the veterans who served in. We're looking for any of those really well oral arguments in this case are scheduled for tomorrow that is Wednesday the twenty seventh Siri you wanna talk about what HA is doing. We're arguments began at ten AM on the twenty seven and a little bit before that at eight thirty AM the American humane association is hosting a rally to honor them all outside of the supreme court. So that'll be outside the front steps from eight thirty to eleven thirty. And we have a really fantastic line as lineup of speakers set up to speak to the many different issues with this cross. So we've set up some. Tastic lawyers. Like, you Andrew who will be speaking tomorrow and veterans at various different faith groups end of no faith leaders of many of our meekest parties, including groups like the Muslim advocates Jewish war veterans as well. Some local elected officials. So we're really looking forward to it. And then of course, following oral arguments are plaintiffs will be speaking as well. So it's a great opportunity to hear more about why this case is so important why we think that this cross is such a constitutional violation. And learn more about both American Association in our legal work. Also, I am really looking forward to participating in the rally. It will be eight thirty AM on the right directly out in front of the of the supreme court building. Thanks so much for joining us, Sarah and giving us that that breakdown. I usually ask the cynical question because the Trump administration in. In the supreme court nominations have made me incredibly cynical so fast forward to win. The supreme court rules the wrong way on this. What what do you think will be there 'rationalization? I think it's really hard to now. I think if anything, of course, we're really confident in our legal position, and our attorney Monica Miller is absolutely fantastic. So I'm looking forward to absolutely devouring the transcripts in recordings of oral arguments. I'm not sure what the justification would be on the other side. I think of it did go the other way the the best we could hope for is narrow decision. I know that there's some excellent writing out there about why the court might go the other way. But unfortunately, I'm trying not to dedicate a whole lot of energy to. Fair enough. Well, at obviously, standing invitation to to Monica come on the show. She's probably a little busy at the moment. She definitely is a little busy at the moment. But following arguments. I know she'll she'll jump at the opportunity to debrief N and really get the chance to talk more about why we feel so strongly about this gas. I'm excited about that. But Andrew final short question. Is there some technicality that they'll use to get out of this? You know, rule the wrong way. Like they did. With the recent case, we discussed, you know, if if that happens, right? I mean, I think that they're really sort of two directions that this could go that this could go badly, right? It could go badly narrowly on factual grounds. And that would be readopting the district court's finding, you know, some version of that in the supreme court saying, well, look, you know, like this really does have a have a secular purpose. And everybody knows that crosses just honor war veterans it. It seems weird that that would be the bet the better scenario. But but but I think that Sarah's correct? Right. That that that would certainly be better than a a five Justice conservative majority saying as we're gonna dig into this a little bit after after Sarah's off the line, but the the the briefs explicitly urge the court not to apply the the lemon test in this case. And and I certainly think that it has to be a live option. And you know, it's one of the things I want I wanna talk to Monica about is. You know, how you write a supreme court brief that has to be pitched at you know, John Roberts who is you know, certainly no fan of the lemon test. And, you know, a no fan of the the notion of an expansive separation of church and state. So I. I think the there's some really really interesting things in in Monica's brief which is it's like ninety seven pages long because you have you have the two parties you have both the M C P P and and the American Legion. So she's she's taken on quite a burden in this. I know she's really looking forward to or arguments. One of the more recent developments on that front is that of course, the American Legion in the Maryland commission. We'll have arguing time, but the Trump administration did decide to intervene directly in this case will also be arguing Monica also be arguing against acting solicitor. General good luck tour. I'll pass along your well wishes for sure and I know she's excited to be on the show when things calm down a little bit around here. Excited to have her. Thanks so much Sarah for coming on. Wow. What a what a great interview. A thanks again. So much to Sarah for coming on an Android. I know you'd mentioned maybe had some more thoughts to to talk about here after Sarah's off the line. So what do you think? Yeah. Just just a few the first is. And I'm going to include the briefs that have been filed in this case in the show notes. You will see I think the principles that that Sarah was talking about really on full display. The the the Maryland national capital park planning commission. Their brief refers to the cross as the peace cross. Throughout the and it is, you know, from the historical background, right? Look that this was just part of what people did back then to commemorate World War One veterans. Right. You know, during the war the government printed posters with images of Latin crosses as battlefield gravesite markers to encourage Americans to buy war bonds, and the the president congress stab the three new medals for valor. All in the shape of the cross the distinguished service. Cross the navy cross and the air force. I mean, it it it there really is on the one hand an effort to kind of relitigate the facts. And and convince you that, you know, a a giant forty foot symbol of Christianity is really suck gives them. If this were a forty foot corron or whatever. Forty foot crescent and star. Telling Christians that represents everybody. Yeah. Everybody does that you don't pick pick nanna sharpened at both ends. Crescent that you have in a non religious way in your own home Christians. You don't. No, no. I don't believe you. Sorry. It's totally a secular thing. It's ridiculous. Of course. It's a. Whatever. But I I'm going to go out on the line. I'd be like this one's going to go the wrong way. I don't. I mean, I've just so it's it's not because of any expertise just, you know, I've just really jaded and cynical because recent decisions the civil asset forfeiture, not withstanding. So I'll go ahead. I wanted to Thomas was wrong segment. So I'm going to predict that it's going to go wrong way. Because they'll say like, oh, it's not Christian or something. I don't know. That's what will and Sarah looted that would be the far better outcome because as I referenced during the interview segment the American Legion. Brief again linked in the show notes argument. One a right is no clear standard governs this case. Right. The in other words, it is a it is a direct coal for the supreme court to say that the lemon versus Kertzman test. Which forty five forty eight years now has is what governs in cases. Like, this does not want for case. Like, I they they're just saying that what is the what is their justification for it? Not apply. Right. So they're argument involves the recent efforts by the supreme court to scale back the protections of the stablishment clause. Right. So for example, in twenty fourteen the supreme court decided a case called town of Greece versus Galloway, and that case that has nothing to do with monuments, or you know, ten commandments or giant crosses or whatever that had to do with the town of Greece opened up. It's it's a legislative session with a prayer friends of the F F R f was involved in that case those who believed in strict separation of. Church and state said obviously opening up with a chaplain delivering an invocation seems like a violation of the establishment clause here and the supreme court when out of its way to kind of carve what I would characterize as a very, very narrow exception. But what the advocates of co mingling religion in with the state have said, well, look like if if the supreme court didn't apply the lemon test to opening up legislative sessions with a prayer. Then maybe lemon just doesn't apply anymore. Maybe it just doesn't count. And and the way in which the American Legion is characterized it is that the that that the town of Greece versus Galloway decision stands for the proposition that that the examination is endorsement weather, a reasonable observer would perceive that the check. Challenged government action would have the purpose or effect of endorsing religion. That is whether the government action, quote sends a message to nodded here. It's that they are outsiders not full members of the political community and an accompanying message to adherence that they are insiders favored members of the political community notice that you could apply that test and still say right that endorsement like even if even if the question is one of sort of second class citizenship. I would think having a giant Christian monument when you enter a town or having a town that begins with a sectarian prayer before beginning legislative sessions is right sends precisely that message. Right. So it what makes it pernicious is that that that standard in my view is designed to sort of reinforce the the notions. Of Christian privilege that you're talking about. Right. That that if you're a part of the majority religion, it's easy to say. Oh, well, look like, we're not we're not excluding you. We're just you know, we're just to come on. Everybody uses crosses to Marquette gravesite stuff like that. And the lemon test look for all of the criticism. And again, a lot of the criticism directed at the leftists. I talked about this debate with Justin Walker came from the left in the nineteen seventies nineteen eighties. And and for that, you know, for all of that criticism Philemon test is very very clear, and you know, what this what I fear is that the supreme court wants to get rid of the clear test replace it with a more ambiguous one and then load up with a bunch of precedent saying that they rule that across isn't religious than that they get rid of the lemon test. But if they can just rule that crosses at religious every time what what is. Matter that we have a limit test. Yeah. I look it. Again, check metaphor point not that. That's a fair trek me, the strength of the lemon test, in my view is that it gives you multiple avenues. Right. Like, if if you feel any of the prongs of the lemon test than the than the entire law gets thrown out. Right. So if if a Bill lacks a secular purpose, right, then the law is inherently violative of the establishment clause. And so that's where we're talking about. You know, the the supreme court fudging it and saying constructing a giant cross at at which prayer meetings are held, and you know, I mean all the things that Sarah talked about, you know, you you have to kind of closure is, and and, you know, seal your ears to say that that has a secular purpose. But at least that keeping that in place. Will protect us from the, you know, actions of a legislature that, you know, have no articulate, you know, even even lying even making it up. I agree with you. You know, we've we've talked about this, right? Like fighting the holding action sucks and having the supreme court. You know issue a ruling that that that greatly weakens the purpose prong would be a bad thing. I think it would not be as bad as doing away with all three prongs altogether and replacing it with a single kind of a morpheus. Are we actively targeting, you know, minority faiths, and the nonreligious, and you know, that's gonna be super easy, right? This is this is a direct analogue, by the way to you know, what played out in in the supreme court's abortion jurisprudence cases, right Roe v. Wade set up a trimester. To reproach with really clear guidelines first verse trimester state can't restrict or inhibit in any way. A woman's right to an abortion second trimester states can restrict but not ban third trimester states can ban, and you know, that that got criticized again, both right and left as, you know, having an element of arbitrary district. Which of course, it does. But that's a much cleaner rule than what followed it which was Planned Parenthood versus Casey, which was at any point in in the the duration of the pregnancy. The state can do anything so long as it does not constitute a quote, an undue burden and we've seen twenty years of of of cases. Yeah. Saying, oh, well, you know, look requiring you to get an invasive ultrasound is not an undue burden requiring you to wait forty eight hours, not an undue burden requiring you to get consent from your parents or your spouse or. Assign off from a judge is not an undue burden and you know, that's to me if you replaced, you know, I think that that's a pretty pretty a direct analogy to to what I'm concerned is going to happen in this case to to a pretty clear standard of law. So. All right. Well, we've got to move on to our next segment in which we see how. See how activists Clarence Thomas wants to be had one beer at the party and had beers with and having severe with friends for just a meet up and have some beers drinking beer gladly do. I like for that like beer. I don't know. If you like your Senator or what do you like to direct one is center? What do you have any drank, beer, and and soul? Do so whatever. Yeah. Okay. Andrew a lot of people ask about this. Wow. What's happening here is? This is scary. As it sounded Clarence Thomas wants to overturn decades of libel law precedent yet. It's it's as bad as as everyone says it is. And then some because this is a currying in the context of the Bill Cosby allegations, which. Win your Clarence Thomas. I might think that you would otherwise want to stay clear of that entire area, but prepare he doesn't and is I think it's it's kind of not hard to read between the lines here. So so here's what happened Catherine may Mckee sued Bill Cosby because in twenty fourteen she accused Bill Cosby of having forcibly raped her her Cosby's attorney than responded on his behalf and wrote a letter that according to Mckee quote deliberately distorts her personal background to damage reputation, for truthfulness and honesty and further to embarrass harass humiliate intimidate and shame her and of quote, and that letter was leaked and became public Mckee, then filed a lawsuit in federal court for defamation. And Bill Cosby moved to dismiss and the the trial court as affirmed by the first circuit affirmed that dismissal and said under the New York Times versus Sullivan standard Mckee was part of a public controversy over the quote, sexual assault, allegations, implicating Cosby and was there for a limited purpose public figure and under the New York Times of Sullivan standard, which we've talked about on the show a lot limited purpose public figures are held to the same standard that a general purpose public figure is in in that area. Right. So for example, Thomas UN, I qualify kind of surprising, maybe, but you, and I are general purpose public figures. So if if somebody wants to liable we made it to the general purpose level, I think we have. We we we are, you know, posts of an awfully popular, you know, internet podcast internet radio show. I I certainly think somebody could argue that we were a general purpose public figure. But even if we weren't right, even if this show were a tiny show with a limited audience, you could certainly argue that we are limited purpose public figures in the area of the things that we comment on on the show. Right. And so that's the idea of the distinction between the the doctrines general purpose public figure Barack Obama Donald Trump Kim Kardashian. Bright, a limited purpose public figure is somebody who is not otherwise in the public eye. But in the thing in which the in a particular area, they are in the public eye, and therefore should be held to the standards that require you to prove actual. Malice in order to bring a defamation lawsuit to to kind of very briefly go back over that. Actual malice doesn't doesn't mean you have to prove necessarily the the the kind of common definition of malice, right anger or hatred. What you have to prove is that the body publishing. The allegedly defamatory information did so with knowing falsity or reckless disregard of the truth. And and I wanna take a quick sidebar to say, this is Thomas in his dissent says, you know, this is virtually impossible standard to prove. That's not really true, right? It. It's an easy standard to prove when you have behavior that that responsible journalists don't engage it, right? Which is which is to say if I if a if a media. Outlet negligently or reports something false about you and I- Thomas, and then we contact them and say, hey, we're not gonna sue you for this initial publication because it looks like he just got it wrong. But we're going to send you a cease and desist letter. We're going to show you that. In fact, you have it wrong, and we're going to request that you take it down. And if you don't take a death, we've demonstrated now that you know, that this is something that's false. And you still don't take it down. Then we can sue you for defamation. Right. And even public figures can do that. Right. And in my view that hits exactly the right balance that we want for public debate over issues that have a political component to them, right? Over matters for which we absolutely want to be able. To say, you know, we don't want powerful individuals who are in the public eye to be able to intimidate journalists and commentators into silence Clarence Thomas once that ladder outcome, right? He wants four. Public figures like Donald Trump to be able to sue on the same standards for for defamation as private individuals. The this this dissent from the denial of Sirte in Mckee case, again, not joined by any of the other justices. So maybe this is maybe there's a point in favor of our buddy, Corey Robin of Corey Robin of, you know, Clarence Thomas is an interesting, but terrifying guy, it is fourteen pages long. And as you go through it, right? Thomas says we should not continue to reflexively apply. This policy driven approach to the constitution. Meaning that New York Times. V Sullivan rule that you know has been good law for almost six decades. Instead, we should carefully examine the original. Meaning of the first and fourteenth amendments, if the constitution does not require public figures to satisfy an actual, STAN. In state law defamation suits than neither should we. And you know, and here you see on full display the principle that I keep beating the drum about on the show every couple of episodes. If you are a believer in this level of originalism than precedent means nothing, right? The fact that the supreme court and every subsidiary court has applied the New York Times of Sullivan standard since nineteen sixty four who cares about that? If it doesn't comport with what Clarence Thomas thinks the founding fathers meant than that case doesn't matter anymore. It's it's that's it's really really troubling. And and it dovetails I do not wanna dissect we've had requests from from listeners that that we dissect the the defamation lawsuit filed by nNcholas Sandman against the Washington Post. He's the Covington. Catholic kid, right? And look we have devoted enough time to stupid defamation lawsuits filed by racists complaining that they were being portrayed as racist. I'll link the complaint in the show notes, you can read it is. It is ridiculous garbage. But it's ridiculous garbage. Because of New York Times Celant, absent New York Times of Sullivan. There would be no way for a newspaper like the Washington Post, which by the way Sandman is suing them for two hundred fifty million dollars. Yeah. That was the purchase price is not. I I am one hundred percent certain this is it is not coincidental fifty million dollars in actual damages and two hundred million in punitive damages which was the purchase price that Jeff Bezos bought the bought the post for when when he acquired the Washington Post. So he's he's basically trying to sue them out of existence. And the Washington Post is gonna move to dismiss they're gonna win, but they're going to win on New York Times v Sullivan grounds. So that that is I think the importance of of maintaining it. I I don't think we're in any danger of losing that standard. But we have one one Justice who's willing to jettison it, and we have a president who you know, has openly and publicly said we need to we need to change the laws. So yeah. So there you go. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like maybe we should talk. Maybe that's a patron CUNY question or something. Because I I know people do want to hear more about that lawsuit. But but that will leave it for another time. 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But I like to think that it is. Hey, hey, Justin. If that's you you signed big contract, man. You could be a hall of Famer hall of fame. Patron? I don't mean baseball. I was gonna say, yeah. Why pledging at the that level up your pledge a little bit to buy his our LA's, Janet Kelly, Sherry, Emily har-? Well, Charles s Harare, James Ryan could neck oh and to Ted Cruz for human president twenty twenty. I hope we get outta funny site from twenty sixteen. I hope we get that again. Yes. Thank you, folks. So much hope you enjoy all the goodies. And thank you for coming on board. Okay. Let's find out if I did. Okay. On this question. I'm very curious about this one t t be here, we go. No, social this firm has ever failed the bar exam. Kidding? Yeah. So Thomas this question was personal injury. Case plaintiff slips falls outside of a store. We have used this hypothetical. You know, thousands of times on the show plaintiff alleged that the store was negligent in allowing the entry way to become slippery from snow tracked in from outside. And then before the lawsuit was filed the plaintiff threatened to sue the store's manager said, hey, you know, look, I get that there was less outside. But yeah, the one in the four inch heels like come on can't we settle this? Let's agree. I'll pay your medical. Bills. And and then you, you know, you drop these tort claims plaintiff refused at trial plaintiff seeks to introduce the manager statement that. Yeah. Okay. That was slush on the marble entryway. And you picked answer a no. Because that that that the statement will not be admissible in trial because it is a statement made in the course of compromise negotiations, and I am pleased to tell you that answer is exactly correct. I was nervous. Because of the before the lawsuit was filed thought there'd be some technicality. This is the time period place where these negotiations officially can't be part of the whatever. But not so I gotta right. Yeah. You you got it. Right. This is federal rule of evidence rule. Four eight. It is a rule that this kind of question is one that will trip up some lawsuits, but didn't trip you up and doesn't trip up anybody, right? Who is a regular practitioner for precisely the reasons you are ticketed on the show. Right rule. Rufo eight right. The one of the yes answers that you that you pondered over for for a little bit on is. They're going to be a technicality is the rule excluding offers of compromise. That's four zero eight does not protect statements of fact made during compromise negotiations. That is absolutely one hundred percent not belong for away protects not only the offer itself. But everything you do in connection with that offer. And and again, this is really really important, right? Like, these are how ninety nine percent of civil cases get resolved. And that is lawyers talk to each other and sometimes lawyers talk to each other with their clients in the room or lawyers will talk to clients and will say like and part of how you get somebody to the table. Is you say, hey. Look you may win on X. But even if you win on X, we're still gonna win on y z, and if you could parse that out, and then let them put on the stand you could win on x then no lawyer, whatever say that during and fewer cases would settle and you know, it would it would just it would be totally unworkable. So you absolutely cut through to the heart of it. Four eight meant to protect wide ranging discussions in in in efforts to compromise because the federal rules of evidence wants people to settle their claims out of court. And I love it. That's what I'm glad. I didn't I decide it's like when I recognize something legal concept. I usually even though there could be some technical way. It might be wrong. I kinda liked to do it. Anyway, like just go with that answer. Anyway, because the thrill of having remembered something in applying into question is just worth. Ability that I'll be trick. Just like last week. I Brill analyzes question. Got it perfectly. Right. Absolutely. All right. Thanks so much for that. And who is hopping you time machine and tell us who are lucky winner is for this week's t t. Justice thomas. I wanna point out. Exactly what I suspected would happen. Did in fact happen. Lots of people got this question wrong. A lot of those. I suspect lawyers law students who were over thinking it. This week's winner is unlimited rice pudding who did not get it wrong. Who says a for the same reasons as Thomas said, I remember the discussion in earlier episode going the same way. So if we're wrong, it must be here Clinton the matrix. Great reference. You got it. Right. Everyone should follow. That is at Tom Evans. Eighty T O M E V A N S eighty on Twitter unlimited rice pudding. Congratulations forgetting a deceptively. Tricky question. 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Survivor 39 Episode 5 Feedback with Kellyn Bechtold

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Survivor 39 Episode 5 Feedback with Kellyn Bechtold

"Hartman Ed's rob has a podcast and now here's the man who's the applebee's of Podcasters I am Rob Sister Nino hello everybody comedy you live from my talk about from this week's episode yeah I'm just a lowly benchwarmer over here not even sure what slept to say to the island of the idols what's been your reaction so far so I was really the first three episodes it's nothing too serious but it knocks me out a little bit okay well thank you for toughing it out and not calling in sick too welcome this guest back to the podcast to answer so many of your questions she is a woman who went out this shrimp that chicken in the stake yes okay so before we talk some survivor how's everything going for you callan everything's going great here in Njit distress when he went out on survivor. Yeah I was just thinking gee is a little bit too much too close to that other g word but I prefer not to use it Denver Colorado it's beautiful a highlight seventy something here today snow tonight what's on yeah kind of the way of the Denver way thing that I was saying before we came on about how you know I know their coach basically covered everything so I don't know how much there is less for us and I've been homesick for like the last two or three days wrong I I just I think I have a viral Cole they covered every single thing going on in this episode so I don't know how much we have to talk about the new ground via Heo Kelly be how's it going wrong it's going great Kelly go you sound good you sound good and I appreciate you even if you're under the weather coming on to talk about everything with us so all right here we are five episodes in new survivor ghost island she knows what it's like to visit an island that is filled with advantages and now she knows what it's like here today we have a whole applebee's of fajitas sizes portion of survivor goodness to talk about the podcast appreciate it yeah I hope I just kind of annoying sometimes to listen to people who are like sound like they're talking a tin cans of US trained to speak very I was really liking the season Elaine was getting her moment there was blindsides on Ronnie and Molly I felt like really great the last two episodes also to leave voice mail questions as well please welcome a great friend Bechtol Callan how're you Heo we could I think he really covered everything about Boston Robin Sandra so they really weren't even in this episode so we have a lot to get into how did you call the Gi no no I didn't maybe I missed out on that no stephen often anymore so this this references knows all right well Kelly I'm very excited to talk through every I'm like starting to not be as not be as engaged my mom texted me into it nice to hear from you yeah it's fun I'm so excited to be here talking Abou I think that's what the cool kids call it Agean Stereo like this where purple is really beating up on orange and orange once again is down in the dumps and actually be in a lull before we get to the merge if this ends up holding form where you know we are in the situation where I don't know if you can I still feel like it's it's fun I'm enjoying this cast I'm a little bit concerned about the direction over these next couple episodes I think that we could is really boring so mama acted is starting to get bored I don't know if that's a good sign how are you feeling about the seasons worried that we could see a scenario where a few more people from the original Lyra tribe ended up getting picked off year in these next couple of weeks and I feel like that could be kind of predictable until the merge it's possible although I see the although Portadown didn't make the cut Kirkman started to build bonds with the majority and they did not in any way didn't appear try to stick together and so that might add a little bit more we'll have a similar season two ghost island as we continue into the Merch I who would invoked by really sticking strong while Orange has been very fractured and turning against one another do you think that we will think would be I think the difference would be I don't see a dominating care in fact I'm having trouble filtering out who might win the season a question for you about potentially throwing these next couple of challenges for the new Leiro tribe lean but not in a good way it just seems it seems cruel yeah okay let's get some questions going what's been fun nobody has been getting like a perfect editor is playing the perfect game everyone even Tommy I and maybe in other seasons where the minority just insisted on sticking together you why did you feel like that there are some parallels to from this season to season you played who is getting a pretty good at it like they showed not listen appropriate by They showed him getting banged into staff during the blindfold on obviously that we have sort of like the similar mechanic with a ghost island and the island the idols an we do have the original purple try by this time boy they like it so much I do not like literally show the challenge I start having flashbacks to Ryan like trying to wiggle around like it sticks in your it Dean encouragement really did something that maybe a few other people in orange the I I have some experience didn't do which is immediately denied we did we had Wendell do when no actually may have been the caller see that explain to then you went down to three tribes before you guys went to the merge so that's where this is a little bit different I think that from at least a TV show perspective had a swap and then you guys swapped from two tribes two tribes and then there was a second swap where then you swapped from those tribes liked what they've done here where we're with one group and then if we're going to have a swap then okay let's just do it once hopefully although I think it would have been more fun just to left zero throwing a challenge that do you feel like is that really advantageous for the four members of from the listeners and why don't we start off with a question from one of our listeners here is torey from Michigan Ah kind of looking like a goofball so like even like that hurts your winner equity if you end up don't think you should ever throw a challenge as a team individually absolutely but as a team I think you should just try unfolded yeah I mean maybe window Holland banged into a few things about who's out there but they wouldn't have showed it right because you guys do a blindfold challenge Tories right on it like while it does seem like a good way you're fine you can get through a few votes because you have a strong majority I kind of forgot that I couldn't see so moment tell him would you rather be blindfolded in a challenge or have to wiggle the tribes alone and to see what was going to happen with these groups that we got to know either way so where we have this idea of potentially new because it doesn't point at any one person there's no negative other than you just get an automatic free stem I know people disagree with me but it's still really early in the game is everything that I really the person who becomes the caller that's the Pur- actually Oh gosh this is you guys are gonna eat me up on this I actually don't remove when you guys optus free tribes was that when we swapped and we were so you were blindfolded right I was blind that is the word that was the most crashing the original Foci tribe to be able to form more bonds with the people that they don't have to travel council with and here the sand blindfolded for Chan challenge known thank God yeah why do they do I don't know I don't get it get why like I don't care about the honor of it but you just don't know what's going to happen an idol gets played both get thrown your way at the last minute go now I maybe I'm just a traditionalist I don't mean in like a oh I'm a sportsperson who would never throw a game kind of ways early before the merge and now of course Dominic and Bradley were both original Navidi people and so in in that case crashing into stock at the blindfold where they wouldn't want to show the winner in a negative light because the winner should be able to be able to see even when would this be put them at a disadvantage after the merge when Boakye has to turn on each other they would have voted all their potential allies. Well what's interesting about that is that so to go back to ghost island wear dominic has said that yes they threw the challenge to be able to vote out Brad how many people do we have left that there are fifteen nine fifteen yeah I don't know it seems a little early to be throwing Oh man I'm not a fan I mean I was okay because I didn't voted James out but we were so far ahead and then does was trying to tell me how do the puzzle her a bouquet majority at the merge however if they do that against new vocab a lot of times a bond with the their library members maybe I'm being like boring didn't play the game on goes silent callen but it just doesn't seem like the risk is worth the reward I'm not I'm just not how new Boakye has there's no you think okay challenge so we're we're different from ghost island is I you guys spice to the because it looks like courage Mundine are both fighting really hard to to jump into the majority so I like that opportunity a little bit better sure what reward they're getting out of it even though current library China I'm looking at it here Norad Jamal Kelly Janet Jack Yeah I I don't know I could give boring you'll the other way the risk would be I would think is that you costs that he was part of the group with Jack and with molly that there ended up being this coup against them where molly got voted that was not that okay let's throw a challenge to be able to jettison one of these other people that's from the other tribe that dominates throwing these next two challenges no way no no why did I would do it Kellen Hi Robyn Helen this story from Michigan Rabbit Stevens discussed on the note author though kind of new Iro to throw the challenges to ensure insurance in any of those five really gain anything by having Kirsch met Dean or like they it's cool if they're still hanging around so throwing things maybe you don has he threw the challenge like right before emerged to cut up a big group that makes sense that they trained to keep apart they throw a challenge and say hey we're gonNA vote out this person and so the wool will vote with you guys will flip it these are all possible phase now. If you're Jamal I could see why Jamal might not be up for this because for Jamal I think that he wants some sort of a shakeup to the status quo already kind of outsiders who are looking for a home I don't think you want to jump the gun and get rid of them would say courier little birds come to my nest did that as a way to be able to go after somebody that he thought was a threat that was from his original group which might be interesting in terms of that's fair just to see what happens over there that that makes sense is just throwing yourself out to be chopped off what dominic did would be similar if the new vocal challenge but four than for new liar oh where you have five people from the original Boca should they I wonder if the people who are donning the purple buff this season I wonder if that and we've talked about a lot about how out so I do think that if you're Jack I think you would I'm sorry if you're Jamal you would like to have those those two fours go to tribal council just to see what shakes out at the idea of purple strong I don't know if the survivors are going to necessarily have that mindset or if a couple of them do I think ah so Nora Jamal Kelly Janet in Jack Y'all and they're trying to get back over with Dan Jason Tom have those groups of four and you don't know how the group of four the two sides of four are gonNA show in our centrally both like begging Kelly take them under her wing also is seems like Janet was building a relationship with them or council and Nora I could see her not really wrapping her head around wanting to throw a challenge so there might be a laurel has been dragged for many seasons now since you guys played up like hey gotta make a move you don't WanNa you don't you don't want to be like I'm in Dean Cushman Dean both are on the outs for skull Dean just got blindsided charisma doesn't have any friends like they're already it and so it will be great I really I mean this season will turn around next week if VOCA has to go to tribal next week it'll be really fun to watch for no for just a little bit more information I don't know but then again I played this game to save so but Kelly no way in hacked should she like Kirkman right so I'm very interested because I thought that your season is weighs very heavily on these survivor players and Gene Nora Jamal Jack Kelly and Janet we have Kelly who she has this idol which I think could be used for her Paul and wait too long to make a move which is not very nice Laurel is a is a very nice person I know people people shouldn't say mean things about her and I think it's great I hope that people jump ship quickly it makes it so much more fun to watch PA- Gong is never a fan favorite the group that's four four if there's some sort of a you know a rogue element that's part of that original vocal group yes I guess we're talking about The question was originally on the on the new the new lives of the people that were from Boakye but I I did throw out there that it would be style yeah also as we're talking this through just looking at the people that are from the old Boakye who are on this new Lyra tribe who made the call why do you feel like that it was Kelly more than Janet Kelly is just coming across to me as so so smart is playing the best is in a great position at this point I would say if I could put money on I would say that Senate is doing a great job as well I love I think the two of them are cared like all of the original Loci all the original Purple Ed to be honest but to me it's come up really quickly here but Kelly to me is in the best spot right now next three tribal councils so the longer that Kelly can put off going to a tribal council the longer her idol could work so but they feel like the survivors I feel like in their pre game interviews talk about all I gotTa make a move and we've seen that blindside blindside blindside and so Kelly I it'd be a substantial amount of people that are saying no I can't do that that's the two I agree with you recency bias for sure the majority of these people I could see Janet also saying like I would never throw a challenge so while it might make sense to throw challenge that I feel like that I think that it's really fun I can't imagine going out there in like finding a real life connection like that that's different I feel like that maybe they're not thinking that way I don't think this group will nora she's finally like maybe feeling a little bit safe I'm not sure that she I mean Lauren her who were they I mean those people have major bonds on the other side what a fun little thing to figure out in the survivor Gods didn't figure that out beforehand is is really fun yeah I have speculated that I think that they the might be looking like the tightest to actually together I love that hair but I think Kelly I mean she went to work that tribal Wednesday night would have gone however Kelly wanted to go yes ca Kelly was the person that she had a connection with Christmas she had a connection with Dean this group Jack in episode talk about how they need a W. so badly who show I don't know maybe even though I think it makes sense to throw a challenge that no not with Dean alone later but with courage smell like wanting to be apart I don't know I feel like they're picking members right now is like the first day they meet each other they were able to make that connection I don't know the smart folks at Harvard each other must've realized this in casting because it seems so weird that I am talking about the the the players not production where that how how random think that Kelly is very incentivized to not want to go to a tribal council we talked about why Jamal may want the other tribes go to trouble good so far in the first episode where we were sort of you know we just got the edit about how the job she has the idol in her pocket she's just really easy to go along with an even just the difference in the way she approached Krishna she was like warm in like oh come on it gave her a big hug like welcome here she was like a little bit flirty flirty with Dean Mike Oh now I can be the cute girl who knows your ex girlfriends like the way she's playing all those different bonding moment in it's not threatening I don't think so how fun would that beat it'd be like oh my gosh I know well I don't know about being his ex girlfriend that may not be so fun the people here too bad coach wasn't there than she would have won her shoe yes yes and it seemed like that Tom was the one person who didn't really have a bond with Kelly now I actually thought that it was Janet Oh that you know her interactions with with Dan and how she was uncomfortable with that and for whatever reason I didn't really feel like that that was I feel like that while I think strategically there is merit to it then I feel like that it can be potentially boring to watch so I would be happy to see if we didn't have challenged throwing these next couple of weeks yeah well we'll see I don't know I dean encourage my man then Oh Gosh Alley Patrick before we're like Oh yeah they both went to Auburn game maybe I don't bill and I think it's been all very promising since that point I haven't Sandra tre I'm not sure that she's GonNa pull out the win necessarily I'm just saying I think she ran that I think she has everyone wind up doing what she wants them to do analogies I think is a really great what did you make about that how Kelly you knew this exit deans and where else like she is smart as attack ever way Harvard Parties Harvard Yeah Harvard like if you watch the way she highlighting her as a strategic player but then she went to the island of the idols that second time and then came back with the hair. I didn't watch big brother this season but I probably missed out this depends depends okay all right what do you think of Kelly's game I think that she's been very changes the way she speaks to different people to relate to them like it she should that girl is gold I think Kelly's doing dean and Krishna potentially both have longevity because of the fact that they are not seen as people that are aligned Jacker in Boston thank you Asher helped her move a couch right yeah like more nerve-racking I would think like US people found out about this but this could just be like okay now on big brother over this past a lot of people that knew each other would've taken someone in and I think Dina Chris are doing exactly what they should do and look at burned. Tom Let me play a voicemail for you from Jack From Boston Hi this is Jack Boffin calling I tell them this question is for you here is to think what would have happened if I really wanted to play with Britain in my season and I even went and talked to him in supplication welcome to our survivor feedback show here for episode number five survivor island of the idols and I'm very excited to especially at five three situation and also I think what you start doing it I assume this is what they're doing also is starting to give then there's just something about I think Dean is probably GonNa make it to the merge somehow villainy as you question about this on on this very subject he was like well you guys are the majority you guys get to pick what you WANNA do like he doesn't seem like he was like hey I'll come work with you in this is why so I think hello you'll get with a killer smile I love watching Kelly she's been really good so far I from the preseason also I wasn't getting a really great vibes from Kirshner playing exactly right if you are in the minority you have to jump ship immediately you just can't bank on the fact that they're gonNa try and stick together during that so don't the challenge though you fools okay all right so you don't think we'll see any any challenge throwing on that I I actually Burch so my question is in this hour tabar kind of thing and then in a similar situation as Nevi was being any five four her from her preseason interviews and Bios I felt that we were sort of down on her and the preseason but she knows she's been one of the surprises of the season yeah I unified in Brandon Stephanie Michael Jenna whereas the free wire members or more of them on the furniture under the bus so my question is do you think that there's a it just like I ruined the season beauty strong that'll that'll tail but what is really really cool Kadena and or Christmas essentially make it out of the situation in tax emerge somewhere to how Michael was able to endure because they're not together hey will you come over and talk with me and there was no movement air now you could say we overplayed we were kind of jerks about it probably but I would have definitely been open action in calling me the matriarch of media pre she likes yeah felt as even though people should on me for another time was still nice five or five three majority against the old IRA members however in this particular case all those are pretty they could have some more wiggle room in the high Pi- strong winds anyway love your thoughts okay dude so you're mostly for being the matriarch of the Navy strong movement wish temperature original mostly hang out the slots in the pre merge in majority of the and try to create a little minority group of voting block that Sake Kelly or Janet or Jamal would feel comfortable moving with and the fact calculated dirt on Mri Elizabeth Aaron in Elaine saying hey these are the people this is why would work with them why wouldn't work with and who could be in our numbers little more reasons for building bonds and getting yourself out of that minority as soon as possible and Michael though is so different than so the outback showed up from time to time but I think that maybe that there was all the hubbub because this is a new sponsor new restaurant has shown up on survivor coming to me saying like hey I wanna work with you it would be amazing to have people who think are probably not like make that decision so exactly tying into this Michael had come to us in had said to me and Bradley had said when it came down to the Michael no I now know shaved applebee's but I would lose it was Chile is like replace place owner delivery I would just sweep it right up okay let's talk a little bit about our reward this week ever and hopefully it's the first of many many appearances for Applebee's shirt bull that really just caught your eye like don't you WanNa go thirty five at the merge there was a a long sequence that we had outback steakhouse at the survivor murder and so I felt she would have the strength invoice necessarily to fight for herself for the money at the end so when Krishna if I were Kelly encouragement he makes me in that Sanchez with me when now James comes in is in a new a new person new face and Michael got to stay another day Jenna or Johnson boned like Michael had jumped ship I started pitching himself and saying this is why I'll come work with you dead in the water back has been on like two or three times there was the time famously when Sandra got to go to the outback I think also in Kagi on there was outback stuff ishmael in terms of somebody to move forward with because then you're always scared that okay Michael is GonNa go on Iran he's GonNa Win Immunities Right I don't want put words in your mouth but I think with taking charisma with you you're not gonNa have that same concern oh my gosh I would love to have a charisma Tiber even Jenner League to bu in challenges in probably not likely to take votes from you at the end of I'm not trying to be cruel about charisma but it doesn't seem like the applebee's reward I feel like this is one we're going to talk about for years on the podcast hey surveyor really gotten their bang for their buck for like gratien where I at the vote where yet decide between Michael and James Lynn to who was going to go home Callan edit I know a lot of people are from this episode very much made a burned an impression in people's minds about the how we have a Chili's that's in our neighborhood and my kids are like petrified because the chilies logo is like enough food for me for like two meals so it's actually like even if I go with someone and usually I get them to pay I get two meals out of it for threes as a tween Applebee's and Chili's definitely going with delays but out there applebee's it looks good it looks waiting for so long without having a sponsored bang because now applebee's is all over her all over the survivor I think it's been that long because in season hi so let's see I I have a question for you that is from one of our listeners about you I'm a vote with you once we get emerge Boga and so because Michael had jumped ship in started to pitch himself win that swap happens he had started to build a release inches certainly my fair share of Applebee's I'm not enough of a Foodie to scoff at going to applebees Callan now I'm not either I'm a fast I it's like really I can't pass that McDonald's pry my favorite Donald's Taco Bell Arby's and Wendy's awkward those ooh Chile Chile's while they have to for twenty five you know and so was applebee's family no I don't think kids have ever been to an applebees that when I was listening to the voice mail it feels weird okay all right here we go he's like no that's on survivor apple yes you're right right now force applebee's but did I like a fast food addict so like Chili's and applebee's that's like a step up for me okay fast food place there yeah for sure I think I finished a whole plate okay well let's let's hear Jeff describe the restaurant here for everybody what a reaction from the crash on twitter who wants Jonathan Rose let's do a ham homage applebee's can Kevin fit in her gut I'm guessing she goes straight for the gummy sharks. Yeah I I love the gummy shark I that looked so good I would have definitely gone streak for the Sharpeville for sure an ah yes it was a perfect day though sandwiches I remember her big day brownies I put down that applebee's we get a big reaction from our survivors it's the biggest award of the season we wanted to make a we then I was like going through all of the different calls and people were talking about Applebee's my son Dominic Oh applebee's have you gone I like I could have put down I don't so I didn't get that many rewards if you'll remember I even the by that many I shouldn't even use plural I ate at the merge then I only went on we something from home food that you haven't had for forever it's it's fun yeah well listen to exactly what they're gonNa get so let me give you one dylan from Brisbane has a question about this Raelians yes Muttaqin Jeff probst smothered in hot it makes me feel uncomfortable Jeff does do like the sultry reading of the menu items like if he was ever your restaurant wait talking to himself yeah we have a few different voicemails about the reward for this they just pulled it off so well I think part of it is while you're out there as you know you you talk about food the whole time and Utah a big hot pepper and like dad don't take us to the hot pepper store data we don't want to go get hot peppers I'm like all right where you any restaurant any restaurant the survivors would be that excited to get any any meal from I think so don't you think I don't know she they prefer if Jamal could then make this be his Hashtag what about Jamal the fixing in case of Jeff really was selling the case L. he smoothed all right here's Jeff's description of some of this stuff joy applebee's loaded scissor the heat is smothered in that he wanted to make sure that there were going to be fixings served with applebee's and he wanted orange or what is that about loved he thoughts by our I don't want to go too much down the Jack Rabbit hole doc about this restaurant what would you if you were at this restaurant what would you get like over and over and over again so it it is really fun that appleby showed Peter if you read the specials and be like this is uncomfortable talking to me talking to you up in key for them yeah that reaction is hilarious I know some people have said like oh well they they had to fake it to be able to but no I fins tonight and the second thing is off to that challenge what did you say put the W in Rod we why did that a special reward on episode five why why is it the most the biggest reward of the season right now isn't this weird feels weird Shen for you comes from one of our great listeners John Tinkham wants to ask about the world's number one apple I think that rare is there a moment where survivor airs Jeff Crops Getting corrected in that almost came across his job from wrong now fixings like having like a barbecue fixings got tomato I got lettuce we've got like some onions like the fixing I'd be like Jack was like come on Dude I just nailed the case of leasing you call me out right because in terms of correct Billingham has been hey rubio and Heo cal Kellen doing from Brisbane Coli Okay I've got a couple of things just to go over ooh coaches on Jamal train a Jamal Jamal the fixings sure whatever dude he's a little bit worried we all ought to be good we'll be shredded lettuce Jamal it's there these fan hey robin This is John have either of you ever been as excited about anything tire life as the key Jeff to call it out here is Jamal all the fictions on the Pixel with all the fixings now funds for a burger are we talking the fajita fixings maybe he was asking about like sauce and sour cream really quickly so can we now confirm that Jeff is in fact setting up Jamal to be the host of future seasons of survivor with this little ole the fix is two ways jeff himself seemed to be about applebee's also people on twitter seem to be thinking that charisma setter favorite Glenn that was revealed that that was the reward love sound like she's faking it that's I agree I think any restaurant it's like some people like should on fast food but if they're like McDonald's like people will be like it's just fun to have it be it's fine we already got you've got the hot K sell you don't need okay then I have another person and wait a second we gotta get her out there like yes we made her rate now Estrella applebee's just to get more airtime as possible that parlor reasons. CBS Cast Her is knowing that she is the world's biggest applebee's Fan Dan sneaky sneaky charisma had this to say about applebee's like sit down restaurant my God this is the biggest reward and we're GONNA get applebee's is by far yes that's so funny it didn't work out of course we've hardly touched on then the Kudarat of any appleby award coming in this season and charisma goes through casting and it's talking about like okay all right whatever whatever and she drops this on a casting oh she means it too I do not I think it is more likely that she got cast truly because of her love for Applebee's than the install you have fixings with with the fajita sense I guess I guess when you get self up the hill but you would think that for Krishma who after the challenge with over the you get the Fajitas there are everything everything's there Jamaal with all the fixings a camp so I don't I don't you're right the build up and then you really wanted her to like because she's been so not been great challenges like you they know that Jack wants a w farrar she wants to give a lot of talk about the WS okay but Jamal we need her because we're GonNa do the vague Applebee's reward now my what's weird about this was this happened before the challenge and in spoiler alert charisma was somebody who did not do especially well in the challenge her love of Applebee's did not propel her she was making that up like I think that was genuine I think she loves it do you feel is that possible where they knew that they had an applebees you're charisma's favorite sit down restaurant that is a hot cake now is hotter than case L. Rish Pa about how devastated she must be to be so close to her favorite all time sit down restaurant by far and then not having a seat at the table you would have thought that she would be like particularly distraught and upset I mean applebee's is her favorite sit down restaurant by far hardly mentioned from he does they bring you a lot of stuff there are lots of things with the heat is I feel like this is a fair point and if they were questioned by Jim on survivor so if the price would be selling ah like the reason why I love Chili's because she's cheap drinks and because someone else's binomial and I'm taking my Doggie bed with me all know shark ball for charisma it would've been devastating maybe they just didn't have time to show it maybe she went back and cried we didn't show them this is the old gene aw l. about the thinking of the Shark Ball Fondly Charlotte not every day to a epic performance like you would think that maybe that the adrenaline of the she was so close to applebees it would have just pushed her he says Yeah Chili's pointed applebee's executives are going to be right yes yeah okay but the shark ball did deliver for Tommy Tommy tells us how good that Shark Bowl is walking seriously chili's Chili's Chili's is my favorite beamer I'm trying to think of my hold on give me a minute I've got yep I got something bro You know in that moment actually naming a little bit uncomfortable just me which part of it Oh man this is gonna get her go in like she is GonNa do this for the heat -as in it was just a sad little wobble wiggle wobble but for most people like their famous name of a drink don't they do like five dollar Margarita Tuesdays to Mondays charge you for anything you're gonNA have an old timer with shoes yeah did you have a shark bowl when you've returned to Fiji I miss out on that I had a few other islands drinks which probably won't survive us about Applebee's they're like oh wait maybe I should try a chain restaurant again but probably apple these let's hit up olive gardiner chilis like probably increased traffic there in some great luck if I'm sure I can't imagine that did work out that way but it was some great luck in Serie casting that they found the number one fan L. furious that with their competitor Chili's getting all this free airtime when they paid all the money to be on survivor because everyone who hears true genuine she loves well that's the short version is she is she expands served by far my favorite the applebee's was unbelievable because first thing we saw was the sharp clear oceans blue with a gummy shark on top we're in the he's experience and signature drink the shark curriculum also that she's very I seemed that's kind of for an all-star season then they've guy count could you give us your confessional of what it would be like when you see the Chili's reward I bet so yes yeah yes absolutely all right so there you go that's on the applebee's website number one number one well if you ever go back Kellyn that I feel like that then if they have a chili sponsorship of anybody from Chile's is listening and Kelly the bad some of the Chili's favorites are the old timer with cheese original order ribs ordering the cobb salad and it's like four thousand seven hundred calorie eighteen hundred sixty calorie weight what's what's a started having to have the mandatory calorie count on the menu yeah those who real bummer when you're like uh find my local my local applebee's it is that's that's the entree on survivor is this crew but I did not have the sharp I wasn't going to the right places okay I will there be a applebee's Fiji easy islands the island drink injury revisited Fiji right I did casual dining restaurant I can I give you that I'm going to pinpoint chronologically when the Arrow started take steps you can give a heartache of when the downfall of applebee's and Chili's and the TGI Fridays not like onion thing yeah all these places they got hit real hard by the mandatory calorie count I think you're onto something and that's it's weird it's weird but it seemed like that like yeah like Chili's the applebee's outback the Fridays yeah there's like ten thousand calories in it's really that's when the restaurant stopped being fun why does McDonalds have to do that or do they uh-huh you don't like the old timers cheese what the Hell I are the biggest the season and it's Chili's like a a great crime novel where we got to meet a new survivor character where you know a couple of episodes ago it's opening up the episode telling us about his new character that he is going to be inventing this is how dean explains what's going on how people were like Oh Purple Dean Purple Dean say give it some time give it some time because how could you be Purple Dean when Dean earning down to jump the shark bowl yes please I wanna now I would say that it jumped all these places jump the shark ball at the time team I'm sorry I'm bad with kids names Anthony Anthony Anthony Dominic probably won't love them because they're a little spicy mustard thank you don't have to worry about applebee's yeah that's just ruins the experience can be like Dr Back sorry no the calorie thing plus they're so good you should go to those they are spicy though sell your kid who's probably would not like them dominic annual what's another one mean yeah yeah we know we know it's bad for us we don't care we were here at Chili's okay all right I was completely blindsided by Chelsea vote out I absolutely sure left out ostracize like it's absolutely a wakeup call my boys what's so fun about survivor it's the one time that you don't have to think about these numbers you can go each applebee's in peace and not care uh-huh let's touch on that there was something that I haven't got talk a lot about from the beginning of the episode the episode opens up make of Deans Mission to to try to unravel who blindsided Chelsea I mean I think that it's probably Earth that you just let wall swam that shirt bill down your throat for an additional seven K it's the one this I think they have the heat that Chile's to drill for those of you listening I just thought it my favorite thing at Chili's is they have southwestern egg rolls defective dean he's not on the bachelor he's like Oh shit I ended up on the wrong show it did we discover detective Dean he's like I woke up and I just realized I'm actually not on the bachelor lately could not have been responsible for voting Chelsea in quality and looking for motive in the Chelsea Walker case I don't think it's me okay I don't think it's me yeah yes as you alluded to he goes to ever nobody's giving him a straight answer and he goes to missy finally and then track on the way Outta here like move on Yeah we saved you don't come in here and home with a dean got got all right so what is going to do but he is I'm so sorry work with me Mris gotta be like dude you were literally on that to go on a mission being quality woke up and Amelie turned to detective Dean who you know what I think he I fully comes in a little hot on MRI right from I would think from a position of weakness to come in what else with all the fixes he can't be sure it could have been it could have been really makes the rules of people out here I loved what missy had to say about Dean after he comes in opens up with that feel good about that blindside I'll put it together weekly people pulled it off could nor was on the outs I think that also gives Kirsch Mundine a little bit more space to work their way in when you were in this type of Grosse worth the visit we should have done that if only if only we knew we could dominic end Wendell is probably not too I mean how does that awesome I'm not saying I have no idea I'm saying that it does make sense in the show miss between you and Chelsea especially like if people want you out a lot of nonsense or enough according to figure it out but not so great to be He's pretty harsh on a misty chatting disease like search cursing at her yes I that he went he was going through all of the suspects that it could have been that there was one person dean new immedi coming in real hot here with with MRI as soon as it was shot nobody ordered you're telling me you have no idea where this came I'm talking to you on San Diego here's my dark I still not GonNa Straight Andrea view like where this came from I don't know about what we're with you oh the dean doesn't take blindside well he's mad crafty nightcap today you'll bite the hand fees you you really oh no because you like being served at Applebee's yeah MRIs right I don't know this was not this was like great you really really shouldn't do you think that charisma goes to Applebee's and bites the servers hand take it easy detective Kowalski he is frustrated when you go out your non showman's partner it's not Toria is lucky that she got away from last season without anybody coming for her yeah she dodged that ginger bullet awesome it hurts seems a little bit but that was amazing. You guys really pulled that off like who did that Oh my gosh like who was ringleader of that as opposed to does that really The only time that I was slightly kind of issue blindsided was when Chelsea went home right before me against people with red hair why why is that the one sector of people that survivor it's okay to come after red headed people with now di Dino really throughout the whole episode I think was really coming in hot because attacking attacking I don't know if I could work with me now because that blindside I gotta level with you I don't know if you're one of the people I wanna work why why is survivor of these okay I have to have personal attacks she is yeah yeah she was very calm in their her interaction with Dean but yeah yeah that that is not how you hand thinks he's the best thing you can do is try to say hey I get it great moves like when in doubt complimented the people like go round and say like Oh my gosh dot was mhm always before I knew it was happening so I didn't have the opportunity to do that but I guess I fred looking I can't believe I lost that long Pale redhead goofball looking guy the list well Dean wasn't nice about Krishna either he said something that was not very nice about Kirshner either so dean okay I have a Dean question for you from our one of our voicemails this is from one of our after he lost the challenge where Tommy was able to sink the baskets then Tommy ends up winning the challenge for it's not Nice you can't handle it I guess Dean Yeah I mean listen can't believe this to that long Pale looking watch swinging detective Dean especially when you with your phone or not yeah the new version of okay but here's what Dean has to say about losing to Tommy Camp believers to that long Pale enzyme that you as dean put it might have got got how do you keep your cool so I did not get to see bill the the blindside Callan did you in terms of you in your in your season where in the Yes yes although I can get in I it's Nick Mayo Jar wants to be my little spoon I get in on that that'd be fine okay all right we had with Lauren rimmer way back when with Patrick Bolton I would never trust that guy never trust a redhead I think that we would be more like Dean in Chelsea because they aren't actually even in a showman yes okay so much life title listeners Nick Cowen cakes it's your Mayo Man I got two questions for you if we weren't a show me together align with on this season and why okay the May Hajar Nick Meyer Ano- less voicemail for you can you will oh it's all a joke Nick Mayo and I I don't think we've ever held a conversation I don't think we have each other's numbers okay like that he has come up in our our previous conversations but I don't know in terms of if it's a joke and I don't WanNa make you uncomfortable well I love me and Knicks are Hap- romance pertinent hey look how do you think poverty and John Fincher got started wind up like Dean and Chelsea or more like rob and amber and when your heart stops fluttering I wanNA know which two castaways but I don't think they particularly where at least I don't think that Amber Particular League cared for rob it wasn't until that she got out there on survivor that that was when they again please thank you the Mayo Jar like calling in from like maybe from a bathroom on stops fluttering I wanNA know which two castaways you would align with on this season and why okay all right the questions for you if we weren't a showman's together we wind up Dean and Chelsea or more like rod in amber and when your Heart Mayo Jar Lebanon I'm not sure if the fevers from the cold or from the voice mail just kidding the thing that that was like hey John Venture what do you think poverty party would have to get John fincher and so that there was a little bit of like and then I think then she then pooh-poohed the idea of going on t. v. John fincher dating show and so I'm I'm not taking golly gee so no I I think mixing great I just I just don't know him is a circuitous route to those two getting together wow I did not know about I do not know about this I didn't know that you on the down low so it's maybe it would be a raw gamers ending if we went out there and play together I just I just don't know no luck well as somebody who went out there with rob and amber they did they knew each other before they went out but from what I understand the legend of rob and amber that they knew each other through mutual friends the indeed then people might perceive ordine might perceive that there was a showman's according to Chelsea that there was absolutely no showman's like I don't want to imply anything here between you and the jar I know that in previous podcasts I feel Dan great connection sounding connection for the Mayo Jar Cowan cakes is your mailman in when we were out there carrying logs around maybe not that did not get the fire started week I talked with Morgan Ricky and she said that Yes she aligned with Dominik Hrbaty because she said that he was like the the older gentleman on the young castle. I'm feeling like I would love to take either Janet Aurelien Janet had a secret seen this week did I I'm sorry this is before I started listening religiously yeah where I think that we there was some talk about where we have John Oh happen I know it's hard to get those of did you happen to watch it I haven't seen it yet she doesn't secret scene where she is just like like sort of like low key nagging one another using the podcast as a medium for that I think that that and then you so you shock you does it shock me are you shocked by that no I don't I don't know how to Fred in any way shape or form sorta sounds like he might be but that sounds like you may be able to like maybe if you and nick my end up Mary I'm really craving I wonder what it would have been like to have like women to look up to my season not I mean I think there were another romance I mean I don't know I can't take credit for them getting together but before before that unreal survivor question so I I don't know if it's because gene and Elaine both are just so loveable to be out here just as myself not using qualifiers like my age or my gender and I just want to be like a really great survivor I wanNA show couple fifty plus in this season and people in their forties so do you think that survivor has really focused on yeah do you think that survivor has consciously cast older people have we so maybe you need to make sure you got to get us in the same place at the same time if you want to get the credit for this guy all right during the David versus Goliath was like eighteen or nineteen and it seemed like that now these last couple of seasons that we've done we don't have that person it's he should yeah he probably should I mean he could actually be my brother ensure come on and talk about the the Fischler and then there was I think there was some talk about how that would poverty contestant on the fincher the people that were older than me but not very much I was kind of in the old group I just love Gina in a lane video when I clicked last hooking up survivors Mir's no I think that I don't want to take more credit I what I would say was happening there was that they were as of the world and then we'll wall was another person who was you know an eighteen year old I think that the Jessica p the ethnicity where we should be trying to go for like a cross section of our society I mean that's what the we'll see where it goes okay everyone and then he was the one who would you align with and why yeah love the L. Head over heels Sabas fire making skills and those this for that negotiate there in fairness did not get a fire starts getting more people with more life experience onto the show I don't know it does I mean this just looking at this cast like how many the season was like the our average age almost that like it was really young so I I like to see people who have a few more years under their I actually show's supposed to be of let's take people from all walks of life and then put them together and it's supposed to be about people interacting with eight people who would you think of as a young young only offense to everybody I think age is lovely but like Jack Seems Federally Goal Box that we can categorize people and I think that that's when you have the most fun version of the show I agree a hundred percent untwisted beat Elaine if I had pick someone of the meal persuasion and I would probably pick Termi I think or maybe Erin women to be strong in the I can go out and catch fish and do all the stuff in which was so inspiring and so I would say my number one it would be Janet and my the pendulum has it swung the other way where you know where for a couple seasons in a row we had a lot of young people including the Michael Yogurt each other in this you know construct which is taking people that are from all different walks of life that would not potential Lee be interacting as much in their realize then putting them together for this great experiment so I feel like that we should be all over the map in every city offending people that are young young no by saying like everyone else is old couldn't cold area season yeah we were slavery on ramp aw he was we I literally have him as Papa Dom in my phone which he hates but literally over into either lose weight or have different health goals that they are not able to achieve jest yet getting in shape is not the Dan and with a kid well not well that's how the story turned down just about losing weight it's about having healthier habits and feeling better about yourself whether that means more stamina to keep up with your busy life or finally getting into those so far here in season thirty nine all right Kellyn before we get to some more questions from the listeners let me take a moment and thank our sponsor under percent in that it just makes it interesting to watch people learn about sometimes people start to like blend together of WHO's who I've just about losing weight and they're going to do a variety of things with you like give you physical examples about how to take better care of yourself psychological examples it's like a workout busty all in one place neum is going to help you set specific goals that you want to achieve or be able to achieve a with new real I do like this cast in general I feel like individually there aren't too many personality heads no so far so we're very lucky the ability to make healthier choices and social examples where you don't have to just stay home because you 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tweet tweets about this let's say what is I think it's survivor terms I think that young is like twenty four under young survivor terms yeah and let translucent would be the sunlight coming through but it's not clear L. Wearing Saran wrap buff oh like translates in the past I've found that survivor buffs making credible sleep masks I've got a black buff at home and I've got an orange one and the black one blocks out light in route like we're just doing our best here in my had the purple buff you had already off had the orange bath it's okay that's fair and I used to Hey Robin Kellyn it's Alex Landau I've got a crazy theory as to why orange buffs might be Kirsten survivor so as somebody who has struggled with sleeping having to keep me control neum is going to help you it's a habit changing solution that helps users learn to develop a new relationship with food I find it in it doesn't wake me up from all of these like ow ambient lights that are in the room lose more often I've never had a purple buff but Kellyanne you have how well were you able to sleep in the purple buff and this series possibility thanks for taking my question you it's fair Mike Purple bus though would be probably translucent now emerged buff was black in that one definite surf this episode of the podcast and those are friends over at noon and new has a different approach for people that are looking being less or more translucent I'm not sure if I have trouble I always get transplant to all the different casual restaurants that you want to and learn to resist temptation while you get in a Chili's I'm gonNA need adnew dot com that's N. dot com slash rob. What do you have to lose visit NEUM DOT com slash rob to start your child today he's relaxed everyone this is not an sat test here we can okay okay so tells the same looking listen is you can see through chancy through it okay yeah what's street transparent and translucent Oh heck I don't know really well and I sleep like a baby the orange one barely blocks out any light at all is it possible that the orange tribe is sleeping worse than the other tribe and that's really was keeping wide out so hey it's it's a really cute question and I liked that you thought about it well let me just say that the beaches I think can make an impact but what about this season where that from what I understand that the orange does not have the inferior beach do you think is it cycle be wearing the buff like a ski mask but you know I wear it like a blindfold and the no problems here I did window window has told me that he knew that he could win like he just knew it and I think the power of knowing what you're GonNa do and believe Dan I do sleep with an orange buff that's what the Ra jp patron buffet is it happens to be orange and the rob that sucks so we have an orange buff and yeah I mean maybe we all you go out there and I think you do manifest somethings like I've talked to still leave my mouth out which you know protein I guess yeah I don't know if I did it over my because it's also your buff is like very like I sleep in the buff every single night and now unless listen I know I sli- i Li- I literally sleep with a Boffon driver and I was trying to stop like bugs from crawling in my mouth and stuff like that and I wanted to protect all of my orifices from and they may be I would weird do you so you don't put it down over your nose when I was out there I really wanted it down over my whole face for the bud situation I didn't like it very much so I usually would winging it is something that plays in to survivor so if it does get in your head about like we're the bad color and we have the bad luck he may be manifesting that I don't I thought I would dream about winning I don't think I ever walked out of there being like I am going to win this game and windows to me size sort of a side note but whatever like for a while when I came back totally messes up her when I came back I liked to sleep with it on my face joe because it's very comforting NASA over your face but Heidi Goliath we saw the David's end up staying together after the merge they didn't really turn on each other when they were up again You know I think you just bunch it up it's there's any difference between you don't wear it like yeah I guess if you wore like if I was on it's the majority from the Goliaths does that have anything to do with they weren't just a tribe where it was like okay you ten people aware this also then being able to execute on it also where I played This the second time that I played I was pretty sure I was GonNa win and then learn how you ten people were this caller that they had something about them that united them do you think that plays a factor it may I kept I think so I feel like I did but yeah I don't I can't say that would be the reason I would definitely the nicely is could be both I sleep with I sleep with a buffon over over my eyes because every night Callan I'd do it I have these podcasts sleep I sleep with a well I guess next time there ever is one I need to believe that I can achieve yeah I mean the key is yeah yeah no I think that that is not uncommon with I think a lot of the people that have gone on to win Eddie and gross also on survivor I don't know if you really want that like not ideal to hand over your mouth fever stayed pretty out the tribe divisions and potentially could could the original tribes stayed with their original formation yes cute okay let me give you a question from one of our listeners oh in in New Orleans wants to talk about thereafter the murder in putting up a fight like the dead definitely inclined to agree with you there I'm curious know your thoughts on original divisions having no sense of strong players going out and saying this is it this is our family we're GonNa do this and so I think it's more that we had three vocal like unmanned were underdog sort of thing I think that probably did play into their behavior and what happened a little bit more than Ah this is something that we've touched on over the years on the podcast still do you think is there a possibility that we're in David Versus Best Cutler I don't I don't know what to do extra work to keep like the Navidi mindset going logical at this point do you think paying attention are yeah I think so I think that when you get the orange bofill on now lows woke up on the left side of the bed it might it might especially like David versus Goliath thing that's like that's like a US versus them I don't have anything to compare it to you know a high in just had the first nine days I think they stayed together an extra episode right this Foci Lie road yeah I think so I think they might have had a more time the obeys swapped after three episodes on David versus Ali'i like what if they called your season is like people who wake up on the left side of the bed versus people that wake up on the right side of the bed would that have made any difference for the it's not going to plan what are you GonNa go no no question I like the I like that Alec after the Merge Robin Kelleher this is Owen calling from New Orleans rob I'm no adults you mentioned you don't see coming they're much more effort needed undercard since you didn't have this shared identity and if you receive okay doing something similar to what you all day thanks for your time and you'll have done but I think it was just because I thought it was in my best interest in domino window where smart knew it was in their best interest so three very aid F- gameplay from Dean coming back here from the blind side it was yeah it was really bad missy him but like the aim or collectively like we have season and what goes down or having some character trade like the David's are championship contenders so cal in Ontario. How how that together work so hard but yeah I think for Owen said I don't think located in a comeback together I think it's GonNa be fun merge because if you look at how the teams our house that y'all myself but like three vocal people preaching that as opposed to if we were like the Davis versus the glass we may not be sma because I can't imagine what that would be like essentially saying she's probably sitting next to her husband now in having that play on TV my question for you killing is about transformation and story I loved watching you on Ghost Island and I really loved your story Brent in Minneapolis as a question for you Callin- Heo Kano and Rubio this is from Minneapolis and So I I thought it was interesting to hear about Christmas story this week I her now like that is still happening in that in those seasons where you're building relationships equal so I love the Christmas story I hope that it's going okay in her real life ah yeah man to himself after the whole thing happened with Molly yes oh I don't see any cross tribal I don't see Dan Yeah I think it's GonNa be a free for all once it gets to the merge okay all right let me give you another question and this is Kellyanne do you see anybody in this season that you want to know more about their story thank you that was really really kind I find that I don't know if you guys maybe you in Stephen touched on this so we don't have to go into it but like everyone talks you talk about her feelings and her very passionate feelings in this episode not like I went into extreme detail while I was out there about my marriage and my divorce in all the stuff in like it comes in moments where you think Boakye in she was with Kelly Janet who are online nro but I don't see any I guess Jamal in no in in Nora Jason and Jamal or Kellyanne Tommy looking across at being like I can't wait to get back with you so I mean maybe I'm missing those bonds and it was so sweet to watch like Janet Jackson's their in listen and like try to understand her situation if you go to ninety minute episodes or if you watch USTRALIAN survive on ever end up on TV and I know you're like you idiot like what do you think there are cameras everywhere all the time but in those down times when you you can just like I would eat that I love hearing about real people I wanNA know more about them so I appreciate encouragement opening up in you feel it when there's heightened gameplay in you feel when you're just sitting around talking in so I had a lot of sympathy for I personally like as a survivor player I'm like I feel bad for her in that sense but as a fan as a stand before he played the show you connecting with whose story do you like and want to hear more about in who kind of is drawing you in with their story to root for them thanks out tenders launching intended next part of your life after divorce and the way your life was out at the time I wanNA know who on this cast are talking brave just watch Australia survivor I have often on I like went back and started to watch just season one and maybe on it come back him up in who do I want to know more about that sorry go home that I thought that actually was very brave of charisma little bit of season two so it was like survivor cracks to me it was like old school survivor you get to know people in the stories are a little bit longer so I appreciate that okay sorry I cut you off before another another person that you I wanNa do is get North Story Mora Nora please I think she is awesome well this she is ah I don't want to Miss Your Question Council here is here is Nora Jeff calls on her tribal council not only do you now have a chance a voted out Tom at you know that technically if there were only seven votes cast four votes would have been enough to make Tom be voted out but he did he covered for Nora by reading a fifth vote for for Tom which would I guess were saying that you are enjoying yeah so the person who I would want to know more about their story is Nora Nora please that I all show okay so I guess that there was some discussion about you know should should jeff have then okay so nora didn't have a vote at this tribal council and a lot of questions about the north says No vote let me give you this question this is comes to us from natty from Israel those she's just being herself I think we should all be more like you live your best life Nora well but why does it I mean we sorry my brain hurts finally a little bit allow Yeah Nora out here at this travel council like she had to Shark Ball's already she'd me presume that there could have been sixth one left in there where he didn't say all right four votes that's enough time to try is smoking or for Tom when in fact they were all there were only five votes that Jeff did not allude to the fact that there were no there were five like you need five votes and I guess that there were six total with Krishna also being a vote for it gets to four votes for Tom mathematically he's eliminated only when I survivor in Jefferson anything to anybody I don't know I feel like it's good to let her get away with it or let anyone get away with that no vote if you don't have to yeah let's all be more like naresh she seems like she's living her life to the fullest in not holding back and you know what's the worst that can happen people brain but jeff is like girl I do not know what is going on in their job this is again listen justice nothing anything that's remotely like I can relate to her a little bit like she even though she's getting a bit of like Lou crazy edit or whatever she is awesome and manage from Israel here I was wondering when Jeff was reading the votes this week he chose to show five tom votes but with more losing her vote there were only seven Louis humorous and she's just like cracking up key but like she feels like Jack as like seeing end unlike is out there being herself was being outcast kind of but still kept her head ups when I mean she great survivor player probably not but I telling her you can't say that Robin Sandra were part of this and then they're also gonna blow up her spot that she lost her vote like they're really painting her over has not only do you now have a channel history alive like she doesn't finish the question you know I'm on yes or kind of with math apologies of so that jeff did was that he treated it like doc so at least don't blow her up at Tribal Council when she can't even say the truth she has to lie about where she was then at least make her life a little bit really enjoying getting to know her as a character just love her like I think she's I think she's awesome on TV how fun was Nora at tribal easier and then don't throw that out now in Ghost island that from what I remember was the only person that lost vote was Angela's that they put you on the spot yeah now I don't think she told people any survivor this season following your footsteps and tell Robin Sandra no no I will I that I cannot lose my vote betty yeah I just did a search angela no vote I got a bunch of Angela Merkel articles that was not they're asking you do you know which boat it was four could've been when she had immunity what's left or anything like that that do you feel like that that is the way it should have been handled I mean she she got away with it she didn't say if it happens it'll it'll be in the next episode or two there's a chance in the pre merge that somebody may say like things but no things the viewer to show one extra you we the viewer new okay there were only going to be seven votes at this at at the time that I took the flecked seemingly I I don't know why she started laughing I mean Jeff doesn't even say anything like remote yeah I think so okay and how was that handled did you guys Sheikh did she come back and tell everybody she had no vote alley folks in Fort Worth enough to send them home so in fact jeff was sorta covering for Nora just decide how many votes to read at banks who survive icons that were peer pressuring you into like come on you know you wanNA play probably not and get any she just lives isn't that great TV though Yes yes on so elizabeth comes back somebody that's already been burned by this before and then says hey now I'm not now it's a Callan all right we got a challenge boy you're GonNa get it you're gonna get an idol and then you can once that's it shame on you but I'm not doing it again no way Jose it's possible that you know who I think would do it again oh okay I don't remember I remember it wasn't a big thing then well it would have been during what Dean clean and you play through I think it's okay I agree because they're not even letting her say what she wants to say like I after the merge I think you always have to go for after the merge so what's where we role play this okay my hand back on the hot stove you taught me how to make a fire and I know I'm not gonNA touch this stove that's hot because you have been burned mission and I was in foreign idle sweeten the deal how about I throw in a shock ball they tried to stop our last week they were trying to talk her out of it and she was like no I'm in I'm in the like wait hold on open one of these coconut coconuts or the boxer we and what was in front of you bamber okay yeah okay why why why are you laughing because I feel like you see the wheels turning you see like the way I'm interpreting over here what were they what was happening you were churning being there for probably like forty five minutes talking to myself like what do I do I lose to that so it would have been that said hey not going to play the game not GonNa not GonNa risk it right now I got too much going on not playing the game do you think we could see nora was one of the people and would have been great to see if Nora ended up on the group that ended up having the four four split where honestly would probably not be like excuse me sorry honestly would probably not be like in that tribal of both for an idle because like even if things go awry I don't know how many players though get voted out because they don't have a vote have we seen that before like I kind of feel like that has a who has been the worst person that they got burned that they didn't have oh on the island of the idols and here you are instead of just like okay now you get to read a parchment or do you want to like a cracker potentially lose you of all what are you gonNa do for an idol I would definitely it'll be good for two now is not what I was looking for but basically there were a lot of versions of this question for you that we're talking about no vote where you were one of the few people that look I'm in the strong majority it's five four four isn't splitting up like that would have been so fun to have them there to talk through 'cause I was just I lost my vote would have to go back and be like so I don screwed up here because now we can't stick together necessarily vinnie mostly no to Robin Sandra probably not if they were pressuring me yeah I don't think anybody will refuse them until and this is the scenario where I could see it happening refund to have a Robin Zander out there her sure okay I don't think anyone will say no especially if they know it's for an idol like would you ever say no risk shoot me and the coupon for twenty five dollars off Chile's talk that's from that side that has four four ends up going to the island of the idols because there could be very high stakes in the person loses their vote they may maybe wow when they went to the applebee's reward on that MRI was actually very open about like like you know orange is done how into this new group she was and Elaine was like like why are you saying that everybody why we don't know these people and and I wonder Kellyn is possible that that this next episode of island of the idols I mean this could really be very interesting if somebody about it it's no good see I would l- I love to play out the idea like in my actual situation if they were if I was able to ask Rob Sandra like be right I guess I guess what we do know is she didn't come to me and tell me that she didn't have her both okay I don't think she told me there's like Tom or wildcard charisma if you were one of the people from the old Boakye who were making the decision what would you have done would probably be like the next tribal because lost someone or something my survivor brain doesn't work that well job I where would really burn you is is going to be four core like that's what kept me from playing that from playing that game yeah and so I don't know how they would play I think it would have been way more interesting counsels I would play for an idol but I didn't know what advantage I was playing for sorry rob is a different Boston rob this is a different story L. Here Elaine seems more uneasy with that idea and I may have felt like that missy is making tighter connections for Christmas seems more malleable right and she doesn't seem that unpredictable in my opinion I think she just seems like she's probably predictable she just needs um I thought that was a little bit of a sloppy sloppy play on Mris Sibley Yeah Okay Sammy Lambert wants to know would you rather have predictable yeah speaking of chicken wings let me ask you this question the courage to do what I wanted better than Tom seems like he's going to do what he wants to do and you're not gonNA convince him much so I feel like and like you know I'm we're we're all about this is our group so she was actually I know in their her conversation with Aaron talk about more but she was very vocal about thanks for somebody next week do you think Elizabeth in a lane no that Aaron and MRI are willing to just be like I'm out so elaine in the episode talked about how for offering me your leftover buffalo wings it was nice to meet you I I I remember she is an easy concentrated just look at her bone and thrower a chicken wings and that's all you need yeah you gotta be careful with that I mean if you are going to jump ship you sure as heck don't want your original tribe to know you're going to do the desserts are the size of your head it's amazing and I was having hot wings who was taunting me and sending me pictures of that comes to us from somebody who ran into you recently Alex Lavon falls did you have fun at running up Reno thank you hello so between Tom in Krishna I would definitely Kirschner wanted to be being a giant ice cream Sunday with Boston rob down maybe yes yes I love I love the restaurants there Oh resort very nice Jones I recommend it to anybody and they don't get the calories on the menu no collar is on the menu home and that Home Krishna loves applebee's does not take much to make her happy okay ah cuts her hand on been she wants you to look at it once loaded Fajitas and shark ball and that's it we lived in my brought in I that's my special sauce feels down and out or alone or whatever I feel like I would know how in lovely gentleman and I had ordered thing of chicken wings but they gave me like twenty four wings or something like I can eat about four wings in a sitting and only be we know missy and Aaron who already jumping ship yeah okay may maybe maybe she knew might need the idol I could be very high do a little bit about my trip but I was eating chicken wings and this group comes up in they know who you are westbound survivor fans this general August I was like could you you could say no to bamboo but could you say no to green that's right she's easy easy to bring the please so I don't know why everybody this you is just making her happy emerged will see anything change in terms of the Robin Sandra factor like they're gonNA start like showing up at public will not be a secret I'm a friendly girl is anybody saying you're not friendly late okay I think that's your mo friendly luke that they would have been Kelly are for the verse therefore Nora would say guys about that had been right into chiropractor or acupuncture if I had to choose I would choose acupuncture over chiropractor but I I like both let's see John John John John Wants to know are chiropractors legit do you have any insight into this yeah actually I think they said no but polite or he says thank you for offering your leftover like now we're good and now that'd be the scenario where somebody says like if a lane goes to the island of the idols and yeah I know I can't what do you think Robin Sandra's roles will be after the merge won't too many people know what's going on for someone to keep going to the I do you think that after getting a needle yeah what do you have to lose I it's not like an actual meat is very thin need also don't be scared that's fine Fran rights to say thanks Oh you know yeah he said now so basically that you were like Ghost Island Alex was you maybe the Oh these fans came up and said hey has gone and I was like we'll do you just want my wings instead of having to order which now that I'm sick good job on turning down my chicken wings I don't remember I mean he's thanking you for them Ono let us know if you're if you're ill now we wanted to know he was asking Kelly I love the chiropractor acupuncture I actually just with the the two in the morning you can imagine like it was a little I'd been up for a while so I was tired yes so yeah I did offer mate chicken wings make sure you don't tell anybody about so weird I so it hasn't been a thing but at some point like you would think in this season it's going to be a thing people are is it officially time to change callans twitter handle you guys should do it on the show it can't be worse than KS BECO- come on come on hunter you so we wreck Cafe Milano visit US call us at tower mill I do not remember which day it was okay let's see another question for you Kellyanne Hunter Not Ellis says maybe possible fall down and they'll just be like sitting on a pedestal up there I mean could the merge feast be like at the island of the idols title love how often would that be if you were like a an og fan and you web which also I meant to add that to white Kelly's in a great spot 'cause she also I bet has bonded with Nora over Sandra by bet they've talked about in private yeah maybe wouldn't it be fun if they like served like put on the survivor shift hats and served the merge -ties Ellis your your twitter handle is not that great yeah the hundred throwing shade on Internet with a fake photo your face but I did retreat re tweeted so I'm just kidding LS it's cool it's it is time it has always been times always because puncture this morning to help give myself a little boost to get over this cold wow and that worked servicing yeah I mean I'm making it through this lake marathon I think it'd be up for it I mean if you stick me with a needle and something is going to happen I think I for it we'll let the lose it doesn't about like hey did Robin Sandra tell you Blah Blah Blah yeah well in Nora in Cali there the two that have been now and they're on the same track would up the original Boakye I can't find tight connection across the except Lauren is still on ah like I feel like that I it seems odd okay so we've had everybody where all right keep it a secret don't say anything about Robin Sandra

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Survivor B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Season 39 Episode 2 with Haley Strong

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Survivor B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Season 39 Episode 2 with Haley Strong

"Some game right off sounds along by himself as the R. H. Payton appreciation appreciation sends over into like HDTV era absolutely. My mom is a big fixer upper fan support we in the most ridiculous hobby I have but you don't need to listen to an hour and a half of me perhaps and an expert on all things Canada which has a nice reverberation over the course of this season hilly strong welcome back to the BNB how you doing and this week's poverty in the guest chair as someone who we are very excited to bring back the expert in all things bachelor here on reality TV India do your parents not know that you podcast about the bachelor they absolutely now but they don't they don't get it oh like my Indian pickers and American pickers and my mom Oh in Lakefront cottage real estate shows so I I didn't know if there Hi everybody welcome to the Rha p BNB the only survivor podcast brave enough to I'm doing well I'm super excited to be here my parents are incredibly embarrassed that the thing I'm best known for is the bachelor just kidding they have not I went to Texas last year on a Vaca- and they made a point to go to a Waco to see the silos of Magnolia or you know they'd given what the actual mattress made out yeah that's actually that's very true so I mean maybe one day we'll get the money to upgrade to a snug I guess for now often make do well Haley maybe you could put a price tag on island of the idol so far I know we only a couple of episodes in but I mean we've watched wait to start doing some podcast Yoga with this illustrates panel here I will be welcoming my co poverty and chief Liana Boris Liana how are you I'm great stands no farther than antiques roadshow Hans Stars Pawn Hunters where somebody has something that they're bringing in a my mom was always like Oh hey how do I listen to your podcast can I just listen to it on the web and I go mom I'd rather you not think you I appreciate I appreciate you attempting to and a half hours with commercials of the season so far what are your thoughts about it I've been enjoying it I think I'm not alone in south I was thinking about a Gosh I come from a long line of Weirdos who love TV too much he's going to say you sound like the normal one yeah maybe Wow what an episode although before we begin I would like to make an official petition to add a snug tooth. Bnb I feel like that would be a really great addition get valued old stuff on TV but what about storage wars absolutely nailed Canada Yup and can coming into the last couple of seasons a little down but kind of like where are we doing this are we really doing this and you know the air that we are all harvey today we were talking about the episode two of survivor island the a lot of stuff going on cannot what we have going on here let's be honestly on a with the state of our beds at the BNB like they called it downgrade to those snug costs with a pretty much we're wasting so much of the episode kind of around with two people that we've seen many times before and probably we'll see again I would say I I feel that the seasons could be better if they just relied on their excellent cast in which I think we have great one this season so it's almost disappointed doing the Bachelorette watch the Bachelor Oh God okay so they just be listening to the podcast yeah exactly they're reality TV it's just wish we could just rely on the cast and have fun here but I haven't completely hated the island of the idols just find out what it's all about I think I think I'm definitely still a little hesitant sort of what you said Haley about it taking up time in the episode and I think that was the thing that people need how many times like are GonNa waste thirty seconds every single week reading the mantra of the island Mike I'm my sense of you it's not like my super jam but I'm fine ash with it I think it's been interesting to sort of watch it ISM is saying no I feel like they only did it this episode a it because it's still early and you know this is the first time someone from the other try visiting and be because Kelly underlying one moment where we're seeing flashes of the future and so I don't know I personally really enjoyed it I know how reticent survivor fans are to change but that one part of it that really set her paranoia going that I guess might have led to her ultimate success in that test yeah right because because she said something about pointing out the one of the lines right when they were reading it yeah so yeah I guess I guess that's that's part of it but if they're going to read it every time that's going to be rough uh-huh you know to tell events from a certain perspective I mean on the survivor historians we talked about this all the way back in survivor Micronesia when they were giving poverty credit for certain things I'm just curious to know like now that we've seen two examples of what these lessons are I will not learn more about what you know what we're going to be taught at the island of the idols at the same time the previously they've always varied in terms of length and I also sort of be alike lately it's been a device for production kind of shape the narrative the future episodes they're just gonNa Kinda Yada Yada through the oath of the idols you know the drill even with this new twist let's get to the good stuff yeah I think that's a good point and what I feel like survivor has really cherished in its negative during nine season was sort of like yeah you we know you know this like I mean let's look at the fact of how this episode stars that we don't even get a previously on instead we get future flashes we have our own little raven simone CBS camp next episode which is going to be very I forgot about that dot applicable to survivor whatsoever but part of me doesn't give a crap ghost island entirely I was listening to the know it alls last week with dominic and it was just like like at least fifty percent of what happens in that season and I feel like it's slowly fading from our memories maybe like a ghost itself but I I mean to go maybe she was done entirely responsible for and then when you look back you sort of realize maybe that's because she won and they wanted to give her a lot of credit so the more they eliminate that that certainly it's episode I have no idea what's going to happen here and when we visited the tribe camps my impressionable tribes quite honestly was okay liars like survivors and it's thirty nine season I'm willing for them to try wacky things as long as it doesn't put the game mechanic looking you edge of extinction so yes you feel like well I do agree that I talked about this in the preseason I hope that Iowa is not too much of a time suck at least giving us some time to get to like those are really two interesting wants to start with yeah I would say that the syllabus would be great to to look at this by the next episode it's GonNa be oh you deserve in your amazing and I love you and I tell you that all the time but I would just just joking with CIA continue to but I I think what was really interesting is the fact that this is almost a perfect example of how things can shift within three days you go out you have this initial impression of how a tribe is going to function what being stealthy I guess I and this is you know I know people that are going to have to make their own spy shock or something they're sneaky into the other or chaotic way than I ever thought it'd be I never thought they would do this to molly in the very first you can talk about whether or not it's a good or a bad it makes me very excited for what's going to happen because it doesn't just mean that happier cast is willing to play ball it seems like everybody in this cast willing to play ball yeah I think because so far it's making fire and listening so I think if you're really gonNA put together like the Laurent Clark rules of what you learn from the island of the idols Adamou but I was stunned that we got this move so quickly from a tribe in their very first vote of the game when we're two very clear outliers in those first two episodes so at least it's giving us an opportunity to get to know them rather than something like a ghost island and was like hey person goes they break in and then they cry a lot about their situation stop until she dealt with it I feel like almost like nor would have been the right choice there just to like keep things status quo in your own Haley I I was intrigued going into episode to obviously I was there on set for the events of episode one and so I had no idea that Mike no alarmist silicon to be quizzed at this point survivor history about the people that they're listening to like if you want to set something like that fine as long as it provides for good TV. Oh so many diehard fans on the cast as well as I think they're extra leery about each and every person you know I feel like maybe in another then push comes to shove six days you know into the game and now you have this absolutely insane move that I don't think anybody really expected to happen go certainly why was it goes island I have no idea it continues to be I know we talked about how like this season afterwards we didn't remember yeah that's an example to me of them being like yeah you you you've watched survivor for a while this point worsening we you know what what exactly we do here so that makes me hopeful going to be a chaotic character tribe vocab is going to be like the stable strategic tribe and vote I proved to be the strategic tribe but in a much and you know watching the episode Oh they're throwing out molly is of course you know the decoy vote there's no way I was like four sure thought it was going to be oh I forgot about that that that was sort of the editing pattern of ghost island because like breaking learn no game for you cry and eat a bunch of rice as in maybe a ghost island for example the triumvirate of Molly Jamal and Jackou Molly told me in her exit press that she this was not necessarily a thing it was era the one who's going to be next people are going to start saying your name because you know you're coming down to that and people are like oh well they're making big moves the this is just a little early for me to be like making a big move what great fun and I think this is I mean this is also an extra analogy of it being took like I gotta take my shot now because I don't know I don't know when the next time is when that seems to be the attitude really in these first two votes I guess you could also the logic of I know at one point like molly does nothing at camp and she's not exactly strong challenges whereas I know Nora is someone who is obviously very fit and could be more of a early on I gotta get them out so you know that's just like my view of it like pentecost and be right in the metal until at least the merge it it was a fun move and I appreciate the chaos from viewers perspective because I would rather go into a survivor season not knowing what's Oh like a lot of people come into survivor now being like well I gotta make a big move right off the right off the hub because I got to start building my resume etc etc etc we're for the first and so to have this happen the very very first vote I would be so incredibly nervous and maybe even more paranoid to then be out there just sort of on like Tommy's side of all of this where I would go along with it if that's what people wanted to do but I would definitely not be pushing for it and I think the Tommy seems like somebody else who essentially all the people that are going you know like Elizabeth had the most confessionals last episode Kelly had the most this episode when I found I feel like we've found out a lot about both of those people being about okay who's GonNa flip on who at least if you get the first vote where things seem to be relatively stable maybe it'd make you feel a little bit more comfortable I think maybe I am more kidding it was an amazing opportunity I'm so proud of you believe my anxiety is like I'm sure people are Mike Mike Mike I am so so excited that you've got to go and experience I like it we remember that because if you're if you're starting to pick strong players or you're suggesting hey we should get off this person instead of this person like Janet Kelly and and Lauren trio on their own as well for sort of being like hey this is an opportunity for us as for a take control the game I think that because paranoia is running rampant this season it's partially due to the island of the idols name it's partially just due to the people that they cast on the season which is great it's just fostering the Zina's that went down over this episode and let's stay on the molly train and talk about our preseason predictions on molly with an asterisk because hear from you molly was a huge preseason favorite for the survivor community at large going into this season where you on the same page so I a deal which is kind of crazy I don't know like Haley I don't know do you think that this is actually a good move wrong social game and was everyone's best friend out on the island however because she was super well likes by everyone she was also a threat to win this fact combined with her strategic domino action because in parentheses this begins the fall of the Chili threesome plus Tommy so let's just go along with that okay boy molly had molly making the jury and I wrote her choice of soup was slow cooked Chili and that's very important for this No not really I don't know what was mulling doing it was like so grievously bad I just felt like Nora had an issue with her and she wasn't you know Costa by just being like hey look at someone like Nora who's very erratic who is you know ostracizing herself she's very easy person to take out but going legs foreshore and then as the votes started coming Oh no this is a lot of molly votes it's molly like three votes and it's like oh it's like this is counts as part of the Chili Alliance was responsible for her downfall she was probably voted out by the non chilly people and her final words Molly states she had a good time it or her hair and I said that either she or someone voting for her would be making a Harry Potter reference at some point in the voting booth over the course of the season as we've declared several times in the past automatically taken an l. this season because Liana says I am biased and that I do have information in talking to these people happened with everything being up in the air not knowing WHO's GonNa turn on who but I can't imagine being out there is a player just operating and chaos is so much more difficult elvis relationships and maybe like he feels like more in the middle but then from Lauren Kellyanne Janet's perspective of really wanting to take control I guess I get that but I just wonder how much control they really ah you know a a an asset there but yeah this just just seem to come completely out of nowhere and I really do give credit to like the the you know before what's it called my God before the merge like what do you what do you need to do that for right truly have with all the chaos well let's start getting into you are usual stuff on the BBC I'm sure we'll talk a lot more about all the crazy there's something else he said that I can't quite remember even happened twelve and a half seconds ago so I gotta go with Mike I appreciate that yeah I was very surprised you or I know that like the Women's Alliance online NRO decided that as well this time it's really those three they're like okay this is an opportunity for us to be the power trail instead yeah I don't know but I still wanted to play along and write down my thoughts on how I thought each of these cast members Sans Ronnie would do as I left Fiji but Liana I'm very intrigued also making the jury I said that she would get blindsided after people realised she was too likable for the end game I did say she'd go home with an idol in her pocket I talked about Harry Potter a lot with Molly preseason she mentioned Binge Harry Potter as an example and I was stunned when it was not her who made the HP reference emerge but I think pretty well in saying like she's GonNa cause she's like almost two likeable and I think that was the case I know to be fair I don't think her or I could have predicted that she was saddled with the popular girl mentality because she talked about it with me and she even posted a picture on social media l. like she was very kreil upfront to say like I was not cool whatsoever in school I've she was very much someone who is just like an offbeat person followed everything's person yeah I didn't get that at all where the popular kids seen came into play it just seemed like they needed some analogy for people splitting into AH predicting that she would make the jury I feel like that's that's an obvious one like definitely I would have done that as well gee just doesn't seem like an obvious person to go before the were you or you are I'm not I'm playing with negative house I don't know what analogy is appropriate in the circumstances but see that's the but Kelly I don't know if everyone noticed this but she wrote down Molly wogs on her herdsmen which is a reference to molly wobbles the affectionate nickname the skater kid who secretly plays the cello you know Oh man and then okay let's see then Jamal what were the other characters so all the arbiter here you are the one looking at the antiques that Leon and I have brought in and determining their value God I you know now I do usually I wrote down her closest ally in her worst enemy I sent her closest ally was Kelly and her worst enemy was Nora so Haley you are flee hearn Jamal but I I don't think the king the Queen and the Jack was necessarily as big of a thing as the show made it out to be but I feel like maybe in a different season they could have very easily what'd she say she's like stunned and a little dizzy in her final words like this you point it could have been something on the on the cutting room floor there so I got molly a beautiful do I remember every part of it gosh now is they T- I did see high school musical theater though I will give myself that is it true that Avia the do I remember this no so okay it was Oh let me start so I don't know if either of you remember but James From Big Brother Eighteen I noticed hale he's been silent rather entire conversation listen did I watch high school musical yes can I do a stunning rendition of that song that Sharpei and her brother do on stage when they completely redid the watchman call it of it Great Music Can Utah yes it did this weird long video like a couple summers ago remember there was a cease and desist yes this season assist thing with Natalie anyway there's one line the beat her own drummer and wasn't necessarily regard as popular cut to nor be like this is just like high school molly is the popular girl and she's like I've never been nor is the nerd that hip hop dances. I suppose I mean this it's not foot loose footloose we know there's no dancing so maybe maybe I I don't know where that it's amazing it's maybe it's my preseason bias been able to try free cognitive power so should I give them like point seven five era often molly was Sharpei oh maybe just trying to keep the clicks in line I don't do what you love we must adhere by these standards the basketball player who bakes yes and I guess is molly can't be molly's that dances that hip hop this that's got to be Nora right the Mr gives Mrs. Weasley in the Harry Potter Franchise and Kelly even confirmed that on social media that's crazy that you predicted that Mike I'm actually very impressed by that one the teach us something anything survivor related or not about life and we're going to see if we can stick to those lessons and get rewarded points why he's already lost what I've decided so this is just I mean this is just for the fun of it you know and like I'm playing I'm playing with House money right exactly yes so we're speaking into the microphone we live inside tiny rooms twenty seven but we figured we do is every week or listen the first few weeks we're going to bring in our guest in tries to pretend whatever's going on is not happening that's really funny we'll go ahead and make no guard well I was just GonNa say was disappointed in the outcome disappoint online God that's beautiful so I well she did say she was feeling the cool kids I don't know it seems very odd yeah it seems like Jack would be part of like I don't know going like high school musical trope like he's the minds a little awful I don't think it's going to get you too far in life I'm being honest with you but it's funny that you know Mike your prediction skills are so dead on and then when you go to a trivia night at your local bar and there's a category about Canada you're GonNa think of me and I love whenever you're playing learned league or whatever the Trivia everyone knows candidate exists do you really know much about Canada we're not GONNA get quizzed on Canada are we sorry no no I love it I love it love it will Haley I'm GonNa turn the lecture an over to you because in the effort of the being be trying to always keep things you might give you some I give you some fun I'm excited and then you can you can just like hold all these facts in it just so in terms of being able to use this stuff at Trivia nights I think we should also might have to work some of these fun facts into a conversation this week with enemy of that and I had to bring it up even though it's not relevant anyway so you're welcome no I always think that when people ask questions that they answer themselves exactly I love it groups highschool seemed to be the one that was most appropriate for them but yeah I didn't get the sense that what was it it was Jamal Molly and outmatched promptly bowed out after a year or so what's it called Learn League yes and you have to be invited by other smart got invitation High Level Online Trivia League it's has like jeopardy champions in their Jessica leads is a very big part of it it's I went in there and I very much fresh like survivor we're gonNA try something new starting this week and look this season is all about teaching lessons so we thought preseason bias when you get to go out there and you get to meet people and talk to them you can do the prediction that somebody will reference Harry Potter in voting out people so there just I always remember from it and it's when he's talking about college and he's like did I graduate no that I come close yes and for some reason I just really like relation like well she was the leader of the mean girls pack it's like come on girlfriend but my thing like somebody would use a Harry Potter reference and voting her out is there are a oh I want to say they're six and there's like two territories ten provinces three territories it's my own family including my infant son well you know he's not much of a conversationalist I'm sure yet but he'll get there but if he just keeps being facts he is for the nerds online H. Two trivia each learn I used to learn league as like a very or in some sort of way so healy I know he sorta prepped you for this do you have something that you want to teach us this week yes at the beginning of the episode he said I'm I'm the newer of all things bachelor in Canada and those were the two things whereas like what should I teach them about this candidate that's a little easier oh you know what what's your favorite province Wa I dunno mainstream top three craven favorite providence okay let me think of the provinces they've actually been to say well what's not exactly my favorite then got to say well I know like I just went again I wouldn't fit in mind even less smart than you so it's just not probably the place for me anyway candidate him meaty you'll want to move there one day very true thought anyways so do you know how many province Wede be the students here nobody at the suggestion of like Oh Mike in Leon she tried to teach something is somebody a different lesson this week I don't know too much about this world to be quite honest we only now if you speak to other people do sometimes so I'll do my best yeah I might have to bring it onto other podcasts that's apparently the only thing I do with human beings view and thin did that exact condition when you've got your engagement photos taken whenever I try to sing and dance with Ethan. He sits on the couch and stares at the TV a awesome school I can tell you the are kids in rural areas so yeah it was a lot of my balance I would say like I would wanna say Ontario but like I haven't been there you've never seen like the ones that I've been to you at been scheduled in Manitoba through your eye toward teaching theater too young because of you can basically see Toronto from the state more or less Ontario Russian French the only province that is super duper bilingual is New Brunswick oh ninety it's like colonized by both Texas Yeah well I guess sorry this this can be applied to survivor a bit on -Tario so I guess between the two of us we've been to four Canadian provinces so we're getting there that's almost half right income hanging out with me all show you the best part of Ontario Niagara and we'll have a great time that's okay I've only been to Quebec pretty sure it's fact ish the it was going to Toronto or the capital was but during the war of eighteen twelve they had to move it Niagara on the lake was also like a spot that could have been capital but again it was way too close to the border during some pretty contentious times in our history it's more like everyone hates Ontario why I don't know what we're in the middle and we have the most funding we have those people come to see thousand people why did they separate Greek question didn't look into it can't remember I was in second grade then okay we'll get to know right because it's like you need to stay flexible if you're someone like Tommy Who's trying to you know make everybody happy you sort of have to be able to speak both languages typically speaking excellent yeah the newest territory none of it separated from the Northwest Territories on April first nine hundred ninety nine and it has a population of thirty five like any Toronto people have been like what are you should move the capital here there's more people here who goes to Ottawa anymore so this might not be like the most true thing I've ever said Quebec is straight friends like they do everything in French Oh God just the only one that really operates unlike stance on both halves of that river is New Brunswick indeed the capital of Canada Ottawa for the largest city is Toronto has ever been petition Yeah Ottawa is it we have a great time there it's cold i read something that it was like it's the second oldest capital or something on earth I I yup every site in New Brunswick has French Ed English oh interesting is there a historical reason for that is it because mall and Molly from Quebec then 'cause they're like they're like their own people hate I guess if everybody hates Ontario then Tommy would be the New Brunswick if we had to assign people different groups so then okay so Tommy's from New Brunswick then I guess you would put our like Jackson drama like Oh west coast is she's there to pocket Yan ask rivalry not as much there is some ask for what reason like Toronto's fine but it's like not back right sorry trunk Tony and not it's not that great But I love the east coast impartial to it I went I went compete Ottawa the second oldest capital in the world I'm like I don't know what an auto ah is hey I have a question is there east coast West Coast Canadian they have like they just are so goofy and so like out there that everyone's like okay what are these weird as doing where's Tom laidlaw from his name from Toronto on I thought that Molly Jamal Jack would be Toronto and then Lauren Kellyanne Janet would be Ottawa of like hey you want you guys to be the capital no we're the capital Okay Beautiful Beautiful Work Michael really extrapolating on what I'm giving it an extra point so if we had to make it more relevant to your podcast yeah that's a pretty pretty apt comparison Quebec as like the the three that are just like on their own kind of do our own thing we're voting out molly that's and it's yeah because it's an auto is like right on the border right of Quebec in Ontario kind of make sense eighteen earthy out there on the west coast is very nice but if I had to pick I pick east coast sorry are official languages because they can like go between the two okay what is Nora and Jason What are they are they a territory Newfoundland Ooh I like that because wants to try to tie this and in some way do you want me to do because I'm just giving you fun fast let's read a wikipedia page there's other ones that were colder but off the dime diva that's perfect to us in real life because it's starting to get cold around here so people would be like ooh it's cold out there and say hey you know what in my mentioned I believe it's something like when you're measuring distance in the UK if it's if you're driving US miles but if you're walking US kilometers so he wanna live where it's warmer right we we mostly use the metric system as I gave you the distance in kilometers but if you would ask me my height I would say I think so yeah I'd assume so most pop okay that's not a lot of people now we were pretty smaller I'm five three so we really straddle that line yeah I know that happens in in the UK as well and feel free to correct me though is from across a k sixty two miles of the US border okay always like a hop skip and a jump yeah so I I find that's pretty crazy but also like he's yeah he's from like I think Markham which is just like outside of about eighty percent of our population lives within one hundred kilometers and the temperature in Fahrenheit rather than Celsius but you know that's the Joyce Canada has what happens around the world in terms of just the discrepancies between measurements depending on what the use is technically magic system but like I understand our population than the state of California really by is what's the most populous state is it hell emily there's thirty seven million people in Canada and there's thirty nine million in California's okay well actually that's how I do all my number comparisons is relative to other things I'm like how many do I have I don't know but more than the number of people in city is a high a lot of land but small number of people what is going to land if Maple Syrup in Canada has more likes than the rest of the world combined has more late Ice Yes oh I heard lights lakes is it like a facebook post facebook page for Canada has likes of any country and I think that means something of the UN so ask Kirsten but yeah they've been rat free for very long time that even mean I I feel like if I have rats because I feel like if I give that fun fact I have to be able to the most gold capital in the world and something else I read was Moscow and then I've heard is the coldest I don't know so we have to do go it like this let let's let's talk about what we're going to bring this week into our conversations from Haley's fantastic statistics about Canada yeah I think I like the lakes provide the Great Lakes count as U S territories or Canadian territories or do they share it we share except like that more lakes than the rest of the world combined I guess that makes sense with the northern part of Canada raise just like a bunch of he's in you should play your game right free what how Pied Piper I don't know I don't know how it's possible capital ideas between Ottawa Ontario back in the day I feel like I have a use for that so that's GonNa be the one that I have in my pocket though I think second coldest capitals again something that's really arrest them on my hand but then you know how it's GonNa smudge a little bit and I'm GonNa be like you know I'll do the Oh did you know that Canada has more or on -Tario maybe should be another this is one that could apply to survivor Alberta has been rat free for over fifty years Oh man Yeah Lake Michigan is all in the US Oh yes okay so instead of agree lakes so too cold up here for that I don't know there's a lot of suggestions on the survivor facebook page to make a cold season of survivor so yeah but then ended by them so I just we we're a great lakes place here Niagara Hose we've got all the hoes coldest capital in the world is a fun although we do we know if that's actually true I mean I know I heard that Mongolia has like the Michigan that's all yours town because his name is named after a state and now it's just it's all all the land of all the hose and thirty seven million people hailey thank you for bringing this lesson ties I I hope it's been going to today I fun with this diving into that one day so then I guess my other one that I liked where more people in California than there are in Canada I think that's a fun one everybody hates Ottawa apparently everyone wants to cut down all the trees for more thanks doesn't mean they're filming survivor candidate soon I don't think hat chat around the the Great Patrick Bolton from survivor triple H I've come up with a quiz about stuff that Nora did this episode it's multiple choice we're going to go it's an acronym for remembering the names of the Great Lakes yes I don't know if I've ever heard that really really homes I just know them I guess because I'm like easy to glum onto even if it's not exactly true I'm GonNa give you two more fun facts I think are going to work well in your everyday conversation candidates the world's largest export going to be like how can we put them in their underwear then they're gonna that's true when what is the population of Canada let us look it up I didn't backup because I have so many questions myself all right all right well figured out I'm Gonna I'm Gonna I'm GonNa personally go with the ever changing in television a nightmare roommate and I think that's a good description she is intense and I definitely got that from listening to her preseason and she is a person that I probably would not much enjoy living with I'd say she entertained you can just keep it in your pocket at all times and unfolded me like lesson. Canada reminds me of like bring a list of conversation topics to talk about on a first date stars and we are back let's keep on keeping on all right well let's get into hilly provided a bit of a game with Canadian so let's get into it and we'll start with you Liana so again it's a multiple choice question so which one of these the fire so I'm GonNa go with D that is correct yes there's a whole montage of Nora just sort of talking to whoever might be listening remains in the game to live another day an estimated brings some more entertainment to our screens for weeks to come or I thought I would do an honor of one of the very first BB Games we did laidlaw they can bring into conversations with Laidlaw to break the ice says he wants to do that as a hockey player. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA do my best to memorize these but I also have a feeling was around a lot of this episode we saw it on the next time on but I don't think any of us expected the nora that we saw over the course of episode two luckily own let's get into our first game of a podcast I like to call do you know Rah Nora so nora I believe me so out of homes guys just get hose and we get the APP okay that took me because the was not one of Norris complaints about vocal by when she woke up the next morning and started to berate them a people don't bring take let me unfold my list of Canadian factor is all about Canada. I'm just GONNA go over really well real well I would people like Canada and they never back and forth and see which one of you was paying more attention to what Nora did this episode before we get into it Haley what are your thoughts about Nora two episodes in I want to live what else do I have for you I've got a lot of facts just tell me for the facts are the facts I'm GonNa go with sorry I'm just thinking ahead the facts back enough fire would be people don't collect coconuts while they're on their walks and their little talks see people's attitudes or to chill view and reading some of the preseason content and I think we're just seeing it a completely unfold in front of us but that being said good TV L. D. People are keeping up with their talking all night ooh was she was up all night ten Chili and have a good time I will also say that Nora also was delivering half-days complaints with food in her mouth underdogs I'm sorry hold them losers I felt like that was a really strong word but I felt if anyone loser's misfits underdogs nerds Yup ooh I I'm GonNa go with says complaints move from the Vocab tribe at large to her ultimate target here in Miss Molly byman which is not one of the things her hand d she knows how to talk in sharp this is tough I'm going to go with that Nora said about Molly a she's a caddy popular girl be she sneaky see she has the men in the of this episode what word this Nora not use to describe herself and Jason a losers right and like Oh yeah you know what I do like Canada ain't so excited to hear about this before we move onto more fun games we're gonNA take a quick break to listen to a word from our sponsor one of those caddy popular girls who all the guys love but she can see right through it she sneaky she can toss her hair and everyone gets charmed by her so hope people had fun with this as well because I think we will bring back some lessons and see what people have say hopefully some people out there learned as well about many lessons about Canada the land of Tom Hey let's go back to you here so once seen Nora makes foci do a yoga routine part of the yoga routine with something surprisingly calisthenic where she and at that point which again she talked about this exit press mal he's a little incredulous as to that considering there was no evidence from it yes nora accusers Malia being author here wow and now now this really says a lot about maybe what Nora did when she got back to the states maybe he has an epiphany with her own ex-boyfriend he misfits c underdogs de nerds. I have no idea okay what was it aches within the rest of the Schmor- now I put that I can email you my word doc if you want like hell let me tell you uh-huh which I think she's more than fine with I wonder if someone had done it to her what she would have felt about it not happy is my guess all right so Haley annoyed a US it it would be nora no she's much too like motivational call herself herself loser you know she wants to bring Jason Up as well like if I was doing that I'd be passed out on the ground I think we need a medevac once you get Medevac for doing yoga yeah exactly that's absolute under number from the very get go right Leon back to you hear Norah is going to commiserate with Jason throughout the course it's just like fifty just like they win completely along with this coach she's but even do have their limits when it comes to doing this now everyone's reactions to that scene down fifty times x no no no no no listen no I'm not eating I am not expanding any extra energy on yeah that's super funny knowing that Nora things that Jason Jason reminds of her ex it's very interesting even raise their hands up in down several times how many times did not make Boakye raise their hands up and down a ten around a little to cheer like Yeah Man let's just relax nor is really big into the hand motions and I'm here for it man let's just chill oh I felt terrible for the people out there was a noise enterprising she really brings raise the roof into an exercise or maps right up and down fifty times or anytime for that like matter so anyway I was very confused by this whole this whole yoga class that they were having I go to yoga like four to five times a week I've been going for a while I have never been in a yoga class where I've had to put my arms and goalposts and put oh man I don't remember this at all I'm GonNa go Bravo I remember being something weird but I didn't remember exactly what it's them interact with each other yet because she's very much like Oh Jason you're great to the point where like even just as a post on the Internet like no I'm married nor an iron all right let's go back to you Liana so norah finishes her yoga session by touching her prayer hands to each person insane oh good in the background it's like what the hell is going on and I I don't know people out there correct me maybe I'm wrong and what a Nama Stay B Bravo see thank you d you're welcome doing my hands up and down no thank you that would make me dizzy if I hadn't eaten in days I get dizzy if I haven't had a snack in the last hour twenty see thirty d fifty I think it was twenty no no remain them raise the that her complaints about the tribe and she really is focused around the firewood for a bit and then she talks knock collecting coconuts go when you go on your little walks in your little talks and she also says everyone's it was really strange Bravo Bravo which is like I don't know if I need like an applause I don't know if I need it over during the episode Haley after losing the immunity challenge no replete with Jack Jamal and Molly the Ontario folks to be kept what in for doing yoga but I appreciate it Bravo Bravo there's also I didn't put this in the quays but the boat shows up right yeah that's what we're GONNA do we're gonNA raise the roof also this isn't in the quays but that's all it up with her doing it looks like mountain climbers saying she was a stimulating that is correct who said that but it was Janet and Kelly's cynically Janet accuser that's where the poverty I duNno seven point O. Comparisons came in a guy who delivers the message which I think is very tongue in cheek nor was in the shot as well that's so funny I love little things like that all right so reflects forwarding yeah no that was really great and because she's facing out towards the ocean I remember everybody standing behind just like F. This no I am not here for this the pop culture is not mentioned a the breakfast club be free Zinke see her see she will help rally votes against Jayson di she's a very loyal person and we'll do what they tell her to do feelings ought mentioned so yeah obviously Nora says it's revenge of the nerds Jason and says it's freaks and Geeks and then Minora can't help dance in Jason Declare said to the point where Jamal said okay can you convince us why we should vote for Jason and not you and she did not answer the question yeah those interesting I mean I guess she was she didn't say she'd rally the votes against Jason that is correct yes she did not she basically said everything but yes I will vote for this Chee not say in her pitch a she wants to keep it in their hands and avoid the back and forth be she just wants to communicate that she wants to be there Donna let's go back who was yes we all might turn as as Nora in Jason Talk over the plan against Mali what station where they'd be like well she really isn't loyal then if she just threw Jason under the bus but yeah at the same time you're just in such a survival mode at this point and selling showing so much desperation a show that she was loyal and this was sort of a demonstration of that she wasn't going to throw him under the bus but at the same time victims down to me and you leg I'm getting my shoving hands out because I just love that she's like she thinks it was like in the car like Oh you're done with yoga okay time to come around and also Dan does give the prayer hands the Bravo hands to the Nora not do it tribal council hey tell Jeff probst she doesn't like to stick in the slipper after and Nora push the button goes great timing after Yoga my God what an interesting lady she is it's just like also said in terms of her work ethic she loves to tread water she never takes a break so basically tread water until she drowns no the only one I remember going see I'm sorry she did not flip her hair she didn't know it surprised loose de revenge of the nerds was again the breakfast club so I remember being see we're definitely both mentioned so it's either a or d being out like oh the stick out standout stick out stick out freeze yeah no sticks out the per hair when molly brought her torch to get snuffed see say she likes to tread water until she drowns d get a spark from the torch the Toronto idealized wow okay well doing did mike okay get in your car drive the eight hours to my house like you should want to just tell them anything though today Nora ended up staying and maybe that loyalty is going to pay off something all right under that bus yeah I mean I don't know exactly what she could have done because it seemed like molly was trying to stack the deck against and you could see another type her para sympathetic nervous system which you might need to fact check us on interest as gray memorial she gets hit by a wave in the middle of your speech even Mother Nature's like give it to stick in because I wrote that down because I thought it was so funny it's like the opposite of sticking out you're going to like oh phrasing is that this is footloose officially I love that no dancing like footloose stop dancing yeah I loved it she couldn't she couldn't and what was I tell Jeff that she doesn't like to stick in only I'm pretty sure the hair flip happened resolute as her worst enemy molly brought her toward shop obvious she did tell Jeff that she doesn't she sticks out a lot she doesn't like to stick in her hair and quickly brush it out what was what was see say she likes to tread water until she drowns Nora freezing but what does that mean like if you have an any belly button is that sticky spitting in sticking in I don't know I think it's okay you but I can't remember which I'm going to go with a that is correct the breakfast club even though it features a nerd was maybe it did it know it happened right and then I know she caught her hair on fire that was amazing but both of those things sound exactly like something she'd say felt like sticks out in your brain okay or like it sticks out like hey this thing sticking out from your car oh I want to go out okay sure I guess I meant like Nope it just keeps doing it even after Jason Right now she's just so excited because this is like freaks and Geeks man all right Hailey this one's for you what okay Whoa hey it was so funny though because in that scene I love that Yoga seen even revisiting it I was laughing out loud and what part is like okay we're GonNa do this fifty times social situation right like Oh this person stands out right so can you stick out so then if you stick in but I guess she does she doesn't like to stick in so she is to stand out if it's the opposite I don't know I don't know I also I really love that one model she gets from the torch and her hair it's so no no don't worry it's okay we don't need to search you so I guess that's why she kept it in her hair but I wonder if this idea would have worked better back in like twenty run nora over the course of this episode I was supremely entertained as well as a lot of people and I cannot wait to see what else she's going to bring us in the future much like her hair for that one just one do that Hailey please explain to me I'm not sure because God because my hair's pretty light so I don't think anything could hide in their super it's back now let's do it that would have been so much better if if it had been a bump it or like I don't know if you remember when well congratulations Liana you have edged out Haley three to to you know run nora more but I feel like we all got wrap it up I'm assuming it's a pretty small size so I assume the idols on Iowa the same thing I mean the package that rob presented like seemed like the size of a lighter owner view would like tease the front of your hair up so it wasn't like an actual bump it was in there but you would like t's your hair up so in the front right by your forehead would be like this lump of hair go with like that big you know extravagant session of like just search me you know I don't have an idol and I'm horrified that you think I do and everyone's taller but I mean the package I mean I'm assuming the idols that we were actually pretty small I mean the actual told him on the necklace itself it's pretty small and if in your thoughts on this because I don't know how she did that or felt comfortable with that as someone who has long hair I mean I can throw like I can put it in a bun but how like three or four times but could very easily had another poop idle situation Australian survivor yeah that's what I was expecting like oh no don't shine this up okay but related question did you guys by her fake crying because I don't know it seems like he did I think had she cried on Iowa after winning I would be less suspecting but it just makes me feel like she was so overcome by so many emotions part of them being second she's on my well actually speaking of hair I want to talk about the hair all that Kelly did because Haley yeah that would have been the ultimate weights as not stick in would be for your hair to catch on fire yeah in addition to getting Medevac doing yoga now you're getting Medevac for lighting your hair on fire mm genuine emotion there but I'm also a sucker when it comes to like people expressing emotions on survivor whereas I know the players themselves or sometimes like I wasn't buying that SOB story for a minute yeah so I guess it makes sense of size I'm that could easily be hidden in your ponytail but it's so precarious I mean Kelly even mentioned in the episode like if people bumped up against I know if I buy this blah blah blah whatever which again everybody's terrible lies about the island of the idols is is just I don't understand at all Jamal had sort of a skeptical look on his face when she was crying and I really thought we were GONNA get confessional from him later saying you know Oh for not necessarily you know to have a different person go every time but I feel like the Raynham draw which I will say I'm hoping they stopped doing soon because I oh well how much volume does your hair need and like doesn't need to be it's pretty why I it was pretty mind blowing to me as well when she was like you're the only one that it was like a thing I didn't personally do it but I know what you're so yeah I mean that could be a situation it just felt even author her ponytail the Little Bun and the back it just felt too small 'cause Mike did you guys get to see the idols that are out on the island of the idols the cause it's my hair it's like how how well I guess I guess she initially just like put it in your bag or put it somewhere but I guess she really I can't believe I'm getting away with this person being Oh my God I might be getting in trouble for it that she does legitimately breakdown and there are going nearly a week without a lot of food with this makes no sense to me why you would lie about it when it's such an easily disproven lie as soon as somebody else go right especially because now they're it seems like they're making at this last week I'm not entirely sure how I feel about the completely blind even to the audience random draws to WHO's going next I don't know how I feel about that being a mechanism to bring everyone to the island each and every time but it really opens up the list of possible candidates that's not going to be like another sugar or situation where someone goes like five times in a row and keep the secret but yeah again it's continuing the conversation as to whether or not they were forced to buy production to lie about yeah I get where you're coming from felt a little fake but I s I think I mean I think she's someone considering that she like I know that clean Jane and has already made them fire and they're probably getting some food even though it doesn't have any spices to spice things up but I could imagine secret you can say whatever you want if we were to lie about it this is what we would say and I think that both Elizabeth and Kelly so far have taken that narrative ten survivor remember when bump it's refunding do you think that someone could have had their idol in their hair then and just called it like Oh man I have a total reason to bring bumpy yes I think what I personally settled on based on what I heard preseason and what I've watched is that Robin Sandra basically told them like hey you know we'd like to keep this maybe just my passion for it but I wanted to bring a little bit of the mass singer here do survivor now we actually played this game before I think we played it last season I look up clips later on in watch about ten to fifteen seconds of it and then I exit that Clip Nice and that's what we're going to do and I'm excited before we get into it Haley have been indulging in the mass singer this season speaking of keeping things secret there is another show on television airing at the same time a survivor but it's all about keeping the question is do they think they can lie about it or is it just like something that much like in that first episode and robbed Oh you should have held out I could have offered more the only issue is they're afraid that if they show the name that person's going to give you know like they picked Aaron and but it's called the last survivor so what I've done is I've taken confessional clips from this episode of survivor I have modulated the voices and it's going to be Kelly was able to do this episode do they not know that that's an option yeah I don't know I think there's still a lot to uncover about about the island of the idols they did I watch every single one of the monsters songs last season absolutely teen was a wonderful spoiler alert for those who haven't hey okay so mike can play it again of Nita but that was your quote who said the quote about being fooled once and twice it's not GonNa Happen to the two of you to guess which person said this quote so we're going to go back and forth Mike we can start with you you'll be the first Gessler is there an animal that can or a creature that can go along with this I did not come up with names for this yeah it was I thought that was pretty funny it was like reminded me of the George Bush quote so so yes all right so Haley this next quote is for you who watch it I slightly partake in it so you're like you're basically you're bringing back vine singlehandedly by like watching your own contact eight that was Aaron who mangled the fool me once shame on you twice shame on me that is correct it was Aaron and live loses the immunity challenge Aaron goes and it's like a little crap who's GonNa go down right yeah that's true respond the Lille okay well eighteen massingir season one he was wonderful and I was blown away by it but like this season I haven't come across anyone yet where I'm like Oh my God I need to listen to the fullest right that's very true all right this will be thingamajig to a family of jigs in this episode I believe is this person who definitely said it and that person who sat it was Jamal that is correct alison this one so fun okay all right well let's get into our game the mast survivor so mike if you can play clip number one everybody L. we're trying to this unsuspecting allies and kind of radar I think we're really impressed with ourselves because I did this last night so all right I'm going listen that's no excuse I feel like the people who came up with their identities at the last minute hence thingamajig well if it helps if it helps you this character's name is bright full moon on just going to scroll through and I know it yep that was the first thing that popped into my head as I read these of course it was so because he's really large nipples and that's I wow gosh sorry I say I have to pop a list of the have you listened to the imaging he is like style is in monster like if I mean it's not quite t pain but but that that might be said in the preseason that he was the king of the nipple people so large nipple people or something like that that's why they said okay the king of the of the Nipple see the full moon because he's got large nipples y'all like absolutely I would have gone there I don't know so the right things I don't trust anybody at all fully once shame on you for me twice that's not going to have unfortunately for their day will come awake the tone which confessional was delivered I tried to read past the auto tuning was it lauren yes that's I can't even with these people what a bunch of nerds okay let's go to quote number three this'll be your gas secrets and that is the mast singer now I have been covering the massacre with Queen Anne Makiya on reality TV perhaps and we've been talking about everything this season and so correct so she gave that really great confessional about about going after them and not wanting to be herded like sheep which I thought was really great so yes that was Lauren yeah I'm actually really excited about her it was fun to see her make this move and then also just like her general demeanor I think is is really captivating so yeah you know that was the one that was most impressed by he did he did what song do you just do you did easy yeah that was like I was like spoiler alert for the massacre podcast and I play this game that he put together the King of the Massingir which is the original show that the massacre was based off of and it's Korea show and they have some pretty crazy names for their characterists so that's where I'm pulling these names from so spoiler alert wait so he has moon sized nipples is that what you're alluding to yeah yeah it's kind of like you know like I've heard that song before I can tell right away if the person is like a decent singer and I am I gonNA stick around yeah the the the random draws super funny to me and you're going to pick names out of a bag maybe this is the renowned fan on me but like get a wheel at least make it slightly more exciting I appreciate that I was not expecting him to be such a character so I don't know maybe it's a low expectations kind of thing but I kind of agree 'cause I thought he'd just I think he's really funny because he sort of got these like little quips and sort of funny comments so I think he's he's there for like little fun soundbites I mean she told me I got the sense of my interview with her that like she's super bubbly but she is willing to play in that or the're from the show and I'm glad she's showing that this season aac on Thompson especially as the representation of the first ever Canadian on survivor I know this is the first molly touted Canadians I just made a great point on the room that I feel like Tom. laidlaw is a very underrated character even through two episodes and I think that was a great example but heavily what's been your all right this next quote is for Haley Chelsea within like two minutes yeah the fire shocked shocked me here actually all just ad-lib like they recorded it in later yeah exactly nor was like we gotta get rid of Nipple people they need to be taken down I'm kind of liking him so far obviously his styles little more old school but I think he's fun like I mean of course they pick somebody who's a hockey player I was but then he asked his father like Hey Tom Laidlaw you know who that is I do so that's kind of the generational not like our generation of hockey players because I want to hang out with them however the kids table what's best for future which one is going to get survivor like being a surprising character given his pro athletes status we'll say es in a big hockey fan and he didn't know who Tom Lee employees of Tim Hortons yeah but doesn't he lives in Connecticut right yeah so yeah come on come that was interesting Veasley sixty years old but just saying okay a quote number five Mike this is for you the first person with a Canadian citizenship ever go on survivor but I don't know like I'm surprised that he's the one these shows right like I feel like that's so typical like we need this if we're gonNA have a Canadian we have to live true to the stereotype sorry we can only do hockey players people you have the queen of the Jack of the nipple that's right that was the the alliance name was left on the cutting room floor cool kids instead is just full of so many gems like the way he says nerds and crew and then the whole thing what's best for Monica was the only thing that I could okay I know what that one is Tommy because I noted him saying survivor million dollars because it's such a weird phrase that whole quo is a- as opposed to like lotto million dollars I never thought about using an adjective as the wage describe how you make your million dollars like it somehow different in correct only can we sit down and talk I wanna get Haley as the expert not only as the Canadian the facts but just as the Canadian general because offer Hawaiian cute I know acid modulation it really wonderful so yes so that was vince at the beginning of the episode after they came back from tribal council yeah we're all the people who I thought who would the cool kids beers the nerds as my parents would always say you know what the word through this cruel over here recall munch table I want yeah yeah that's funny I think I'm gonNA use that now from here on out it's the survivor million dollars all right numbers for Haley no it was Vince. I'm sorry more time because I really love because Vince has such a great way right now is mark and a blind man could see that these three are running the game why get out people like Nora in Jason Win I can use them way you know yeah exactly I think like enterprising million dollars is different from challenge million dollars you know select the Lauren confessional I think it was right before this where she liked laughs at herself which is I don't know I feel like that happens a lot and confessionals but it's not often shown up but I I liked that side of Lorne as well as conspiracy theories of like are they legit like what what sort of like I don't know dark web stuff is Boston is Boston rob investing saying like Oh we're busting chiropractor I don't know because he did tell me in the preseason 'cause I asked him about like loyalty and he's basically like yeah I'll be loyal to you until you betray me and then I'm GonNa Light your ass up thing that's sort of the mentality he brought into that conversation even if it's not the most like socially adept thing that happened yeah that's true okay well Mike Congratulate Talking and I think even high pitch makes it even more enjoyable now have a tiny guitars and Rupert and say like who the hell voted for me I think it would be Vince I thought that was a I mean obviously I don't know him all that well but it seemed out of character I guess often he's the kids table what's best for me you know it's lovely yeah I I don't know why but the the idea expressing survivor million invoke many happy she said a big job in that bag on my mailing address my life that was Tom yes like the pro athletes worst ordering been fun right here he's a few more on the Jeff Kent side of that spectrum them like a cliff Robinson you know in terms of in Pan and it was so funny because these quotes I had to like splice them all together but it was interspersed with Sandra like saying totally normal things like oh there's wide open society on a your scientist are they legit I think they're not I don't know some people swear by them nations you won the mass survivor game although I have one final quote that I would like to play just for funsies just talking Bofors so I'm starting to really see how perceptions of people both on the island off are so different from the actual person onscreen which is something that I've also been able to Alar now how maintaining whether we get I hear whether or not the one who helped with bobby thing we got but I don't think they are right about now I think also my favorite was just one of being frying Pan Yeah do you guys have afraid talking s on twitter honestly kind of just because now I'm seeing firsthand how 'cause I I very rarely like new of people before it's actually okay I should try and make do you just riot right you just fry it tastes like popcorn I will say in might be compared to fried slop in terms of thank you for bringing out both these clips and the Fulbright Moon you deserve a fulbright scholarship for your work yeah left in the nipple comments the RPM piece I would obviously not get the idol but anyway it was just so funny like all the random stuff that Boston rob was talking about like you guys made coconut popcorn into survivor season you know so this is the first time when I really got to know these people on it's not like we were bff's but now that I know who they are off screen to see them portrayed the running for that anymore no maybe in a certain community maybe like the Chiropractor Janke science community you might get a fulbright scholarship for your nipple advocate might wreak on your digestive system but going in religious okay you're watching the season with like a different who was using a slang that has not been used in a long time so yeah I totally off base so we felt we tried again let's let's way like I thought again it was really interesting how molly SORTA got this like tatty popular girl moniker attributed to her when she definitely is not that they actually went to college if you went to Harvard parties have you made in a popcorn I've always wanted to go Cairo practice rain saying who the hell would say Yolo let's play the I don't think any of us thought it was going to be Kelly right no we were so wrong we thought it was going to be some white dude far so I'm going to skip over him honesty would be chill I can also see someone like Nora saying not though too all the yeah that's super chill I know it's definitely not tom is my personal feeling on that I don't know if you guys disagree maybe it's Me Jack maybe it's Jamal who says honesty would be chill I'm thinking I'm going over to Missy I know that dope go from doing exit press for a while but yeah it's it's a really interesting land look things now all right so leon he says I need to measure nipple size this is very important all right so I'm going to bring back a question I brought last week because we scratched her had the next episode title honesty would be chill so Haley do you have any ideas as to who would say that episode quote you know what's your boyfriend's in it I have two dogs Blah Blah Blah like talking about all these things you ask I'm sorry for I would I would get our is her expression of choice but I feel like she would also use chill as well right she seems like that kind of person yeah I could see her I could see her saying chill I'm right there with avid save we can count out the toms and Janet's and Dan of the world when it comes to these types of titles yeah actually I'm like in the Jack Jamal uh-huh but she hates she hates the chill mentality of no you're anti Chelsea very warm and she's fiery that's right okay so then maybe it's the other people so and I was laughing so hard that about I just love his it also she didn't even go out looking for the idol purposely she was you know she pulled an anti Jason she was out collecting firewood and just happened to find it in a tree trunk yes lens almost because you met all of these people like you watch some interacted with one hundred per se do love them more you more protected protective of them when people cool to see like her find the idol immediately and then was she the one who started a fire and then another woman on did something that was pretty cool it was like in an interview with her she was pulling the Paul Abraham in and say your girl a lot I feel like she could throw chilling there earl I can see so I could I have tried coconut pop or it's pretty damn as zag maybe maybe they thought that was gonna be the lesson was like teach her how to make coconut popcorn that's how dance with women she feels pretty well insulated she has that Rando I'd Oh yeah she found out random ido which felt like it came out of nowhere is like I looked down for a second keep taking cheap striking here and hopefully we'll hit gold one point set of just panting Iraq's because there is some more sorta like modern parlance in this next episode title so we're going to try to figure out who's during more now because like let's say I could see them coming back from tribal council and trying to say like you know man but some honesty would be chill that sounds like such an awkward phrase and I say it out loud subtle but I love like this the frenzied responser crap Oh crap oh crap I don't want my head to catch on fire at my first tribal council man would've OPA honesty would be joe yeah I I was going to go on a similar van like maybe with Dean but Dean has been I think he just last week and he has been completely purple at least Interro is great I liked it a lot I'm into Chelsea big fan fan now I think we if we if he does end up saying well I petitioned that we call her chill see from now on just keep your eyes open like that's great do what you're supposed to be doing and just keep your eyes open I loved it from Chelsea I'm so excited love that we got her singing it but I just can't see foresee a situation where she would be in that where she would need at least in this next episode because I feel like she has a pretty solid st would be chill throat another bite here what about Chelsea Chelsea has a very unique way of speaking I feel like she likes it's not like what like where did she get an idol and then what about that I mean for a number of reasons one is that Chelsea is like just proves how much of a bad ass in one scene in as as you know Tom Amass Tom said breaking everyone's male egos by making the fire in like literally two strokes of the Flint. I gotTa Say Jack Because you know you guys mentioned earlier on that he's kind of like the coolest night I feel like he'd be the most likely to say like awesome serve like clip going on with like yeah like survivor has been you

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Purple Pants Podcast | I Have a Dream

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Purple Pants Podcast | I Have a Dream

"Hey bryce Spencer Bledsoe here congrats on your podcast. I heard it's the talk of the town. I heard it's hilarious. I heard it's so it's A. It's a purple pants podcast. It's the Purple Pants podcast. She better get you have grown Listen up quick if the Purple Pants Thai cashew public. My biggest stomach. Her podcast is trying to know why you mentioned there. Box wine the Purple Pantai cash. You're trying to you've met her pants. Baby boy welcome to this week's episode of the Purple Pants. PODCAST I'm your host brace Iza and who. I had a dream that I'll be hosting a podcast and look guy. We're on twenty second episode. Happy Happy Happy Purple Pants Day. What's going on with pipe? An in hope. Everyone had a long enjoyable weekend. You know with M. L. K.. Martin Luther King Day a day of service. I hope some of you guys gave bank. I worked at a local volunteer centre that deals with like donations from the community. So I helped out there on Monday. A little bit you know gave bad. 'cause you baby baby boy loves the community But yeah you know another busy as it were actually. Was I busy as a big just busy with my work and you know my part time jobs you know trying to manage their get myself together with shaw been up sue chop into it and I hope everyone had a great week. I'm glad to be back. You know we got a juicy episode for you guys this week so without further ado let me run down was popping. We Got Church nouncement and on this week's menu you. We have an interview with island of the Idols de que. Chilin that -tective Dean decay sneaky. Decay he sold his underpants on Ebay. We got a review of the sixty days in. We've got a review of life. After lockup we got the Purple Pants Picks Hicks. We got advice with Rice and you know we got the free elite Lese. It was a it was a lot of choices this week. Sal So without further ado let's get to the church announcements. Yes so this on the church Super Simple Super Schorr only thing I got one. The church announcements is gratefulness. I just wanted to say thank you so much. You know last week on purple the PODCAST I was spilling my guts out to y'all okay. 'cause we go I got I was just telling y'all wasn't having a great great great time and I just have to say the amount of love and outpour that I received from Purple Pants Posse. I cannot thank you enough for just Sherry testimonies with me. Just you know make baby baby boy feel like he is not alone so greatly appreciate it really really really really mean so much to me you know status update am I good good no but am I wear. I was last week. No so you know I'm on this role to a better bryce and you know I'm just out here you know I'm trying to you know day by day step by step you know it was slightly difficult weekend for me is was the anniversary of the passing of my brother bad so you know I was a little internalize and a little bit. Didn't do much communication with a lot of people you know. I just had time to reflect and just thinking like you know where Bevin my brother the want me in house just you know. Obviously I feel like my brother will want me to be out in a bow. You live on my best life. So that's what you know baby boy is trying to do but I am just so grateful grateful for the friends that I have. The family support my purple pants. Posse definitely Kinda sorta helps me get through these difficult times and you know. Listen I could look look life with my glass half empty speaking of glass and the speaking of my brother my brother. He definitely wouldn't be where he definitely would be waiting his song. So I just am. Wet My whistle. Okay Tito's and a low fruit punch an article this week. We're going all over the place. Excuse excuse me my bad but I read an article this week. That Tito's is the number one selling vodka. America people out here and they whistle. You Ki to help but the purple pants as might have had a little something to do with that. Okay hold or wait. Let me. What the whistle on? But I'll know what was I I say just like you know. I just know my brother would want me to be living in my best life. Ed You know I choose. That's what I would say. Okay I'm back. I could choose the look. Get Life half empty. My glass half empty or half full. I really am choosing to look at my life half. Oh I am blessed beyond measures Yeah that's what I'm focused on. I'm glad that I was able to have my brother on. He is he was thirty three. So you know I was just a little you know. I'm I'm the youngest so I was just glad to have the amount of time that I was able to help with my brother. So you know I'm just you know thinking about you and I love you. So you know just be Grateful and another thing on church announcements just that make the Purple Pants Paseo where Dr Purple Pants podcast who these are re thought you got all sizes. They sell a lie hotcakes. I'm just saying you notice the last three stock of the Winter Season of you've not gotten your purple podcast who the I'm just saying. You might want to jump component okay and we have purple pants. podcast of Fischel Zad has. Oh Oh. y'All WanNa Hoodie. You definitely could get in. The hat are right so yes so that concludes this week's episode under this week's episode Dow was short baby boy. That concludes this week's church announcements. Now let's let's get into the menu all right guys it's whole job got a special special Shows surprise for you to complete my three part series of idols of the islands island interviews. I have the one the only is baby boy. Decay shelter in a building with pop was was I was up by the way. It's island island of the idol strip on you so islands of the idols eyelids of. There's one out Litho hiccup. It could be lifted dean. We won't we ain't going to interview off. You're right you're right you're right this 'cause y'all WanNa see me on the cord. No one gets you wrote a purple packet. You sound. Just like Wendo Chris's under we'll let them bet they. They said that they beat you. But what's it's been going on Chris with lifelike after after the One island that you came off once again my name is Dean Not Chris versus the Guy who wait did I they crazy yes it is dean. I mean if you need to call me detective Dean or go for it was been been good since off the island It was slow getting back to work. I'll tell you that much. I spent a week right when I got back at my family home in New Jersey and just lay on the couch and asked my mom to cook me so that was nice mom being Laurie. Laurie has yup the Cheetah print. Yeah that's my girl do you. Laurie knows who I I don't know I don't know if she does. Actually I think she does because I think she was very close with all the other family and friends and I don't know she was a big podcast but I think you gave her a big shadow and someone forwarded along to her and she was very very happy and she said your room. uh-huh let me tell you a funny story so I win. Your mom came out for the loved. Ones visit she smelt you and she's so when I met you in New York it was is like so funny. Because you look like crazy I deem with up and he gave me a handshake and then I was like over exaggerating like me and you look at me like Yo what's good. I don't recall specifically but yeah if you're smelling me I definitely looked at you go north so so let's get into survivor real quick. So would you consider yourself a fan of the show or I would consider myself a fan of the show. Yes but I absolutely absolutely not consider myself a superfan show I still. Did you apply for the show. I did yeah and so I applied as my first time applying so I feel very lucky lucky and very proud that I got one shot one. Kill but yeah. I applied back in September year before we went out. Are you before it was aired hairdryer because it premiered September twenty fifth. I applied and to be honest. I just applied. It was basically mind to always apply like knock it out and I sent him the video not expecting to hear back and then I heard via email the same night that input the video and I was like so surprised the the casting lady Caitlyn ended up costing me for three weeks she. She was like so urgent in her email. She's like we need the phone tomorrow and then she goes to be kept on following up with her over email. kept on leaving voicemails But she does not having Ram she called me three weeks later. Say Hey I'm so sorry like things things got the way but we're here and then all worked out but but yeah I can take you through the whole like that sort of thing. If you want to go there you could give us the you know the the cliff notes. Why you wanted to make sure I mean wall so what happened was in college? It was just me and my two took my best friends and we didn't have a show to watch and we were bored so we ended up picking survivor. I don't know how randomly it was back when My Girl Brenda was on the show. Oh Oh yeah yeah and we watch two seasons back to back and we loved it And then life kind of gotten away and it wasn't until I was three years removed from college that I was at this job here in New York and one of my coworkers was a huge fan and he and I work together. He was my senior he was actually like a good mentor of mine And we were going into a meeting together down in New Orleans. The meeting happened to be with H and r block and he was like a very smooth very senior guy. I looked up to him a lot and he walked in this room and walked right back out as I do. What the hell is going out like? What's wrong with you? Like you never do this. And he ended up going on to explain that across the table at H&R block. Was Mama seat at time. David actually was. She's a lovely lady though now that I've met her But yes he explained that was her. He explained all these things about survivor. We ended up going out in New Orleans and Mama C.. Had a wonderful wonderful time. I couldn't really be bothered but anyway we got back to New York. We got bags of New York. And I I I was I was hooked I I started watching him And this is probably now five years ago or so so ever since then and you know when you watch survivor you watch a basketball game. You're always talking crap. Like oh my God. Why the hell did they do this? I would totally do this. Like Dean. The legacy advantages frigging fake. What the Hell is wrong with you like is just you? You know it's twenty twenty vision But we were like yeah. Let's just make it a resolution to to apply what's happening We did it and I put time on his calendar. We were gonNA like outline videos together film together. He kept on just blowing me off so I was like screw it. I'm going to follow through this resolution I did and here we are talking to the Purple Cast Age. How old are you dean? I am twenty nine. I turn thirty in April. Oh the big dirty thirty. Yeah I after about it. So I mean you Ole Ole. Naw So do you feel like early. Like your Loki at it was reflective of your game that you're replaying or did you feel like you were playing the game all along and not just towards the end yeah I felt like I was playing the game all along. Now how executing the strategy that. I went in with all along now now that I look back and seeing that to be honest I executed my strategy. You like almost to perfection at least the strategy I wanted to play Perhaps wasn't the right strategy to go with is now well. I say it's the right a strategy it got you to the end and you got boats up somebody that didn't make the merge I might go with the what was your strategy. Yeah so like the name denotes right. It was just basically to not be the smartest guy in the room not be the loudest guide strongest sky. Not Be the most strategic guy just kind of be there be friendly get to know people like subtly no need to pull people side and like force them to be friends with you because became just be an enjoyable piece to the team Not Screw up too much not do anything to good and kind of just be there and then even like like back into the merge like the strategy was to stay like that individual challenges. Don't win unlike. Let guys stand out as did to be honest even if I dried though now I was no not beating Aaron because he was monster Neth what he said there is no shot but that was like to have someone else emerged as a big threat and obviously he was for that reason not saying again I was on his level but that was the strategy and then it was the idea was like a nine eight seven Like really turn up and like take try to win stuff. Try to make a big move here there So that was the strategy going into like I said I did execute very proud of that But there's obviously something something that perhaps I could not better so. Do you feel like when you got on the island. Did you feel like you're alive. STARSTRUCK was July. Oh Ma God I I am actually playing survivor or a less. Get it with pop. No it was it was I was star Struck. I really was. I think every step of the way you you become more and more starstruck like you hear back from the recruiting lady off the video. It's like damn. They actually know who they actually want to have welcoming. Then you keep going to that Ben like we're going to set you up on a skype interview with Jeff and Matt Wall. I just spoke with Jeff. I was like trying to sneak a screen shot of him while we're driving and he called me because popped up on my screen and he was like dude. You could just take a screen shot. Just let me know. Decay Cau- sport about it and that right finals this week in L. A.. It's a damn one step closer every step of the way then. You're a pre game that you finally like you wake up that morning. Where they're gonNA ship you pre-game Ponderosa to actually island? Yeah And then I recall the awestruck moment I had It was until day three when we actually saw jeff when we walked up to our first challenge and like all of those friggin cameras. Were there Dan now that game time it was. Well that's him. He was like so intimidating. Like you might see like we pulled up in a bowl and when and you watched survivor. I don't think people really think about all of the people that are out. There is like a hundred cameras and you. I'm just like Oh what what in the world is going on. I literally was like shaking. I was like Oh and then when Jack asks me a question I was I who is really a lot now random question. Who Who Drake Gordon migos drink by far Reagan Number One oh I could I can confidently say? He's my favorite artist. Oh ooh what's your favorite drake song. Now that's a tough question you know. He's you know he's got a whole a whole he's got it all so I'm a hey I'm my spotify. I got a couple of drake. I got the one place that has all of drake's songs ever but then I have the hype drake playlist and then I have the fields drink anyways so depending on the mood right depending on the time of day. So what's the field drake playlist four. I'll put up put up. What's for Yeah I mean Shit You know you could be by yourself with a candlelit just ready for bed. Easing or same scenario areo with a special someone perhaps so so speaking special someone. Let's you know let's divert D- I am I have. I've I've been on three dates with someone actually within the past couple of weeks though I also you day in okay another question you all and what would you preferred cinder or hinge So I'm not on APPs right now. Oh okay I am accepting Dems. Oh so which would you date a fan as funny. Oh Oh aw yes. It's funny if he listening because because the one who I've been dates with we listening one who have been through dates with what happened to contact me via direct message. Oh ooh so flattening. MDM work now. Okay now this more interesting to me though like a gentleman So all on a date. Do you go Dutch or is decay payin. I'm I'm trying to pay I. I do appreciate someone who offers to pay L. K.. Like that's that's a good signal but I do like to pay Not a big believer in I don't know like it's A. It's a tough line because like chivalry and old school gentlemanly tactics. Right Right are well respected. But at the same time like I want to honor the female and her empowerment and like her and let her do her especially if she like. I want a girl independent. Who's got awesome job? We like is a boss. You know so she could pay for her own self she bay for me too. I like are being taken care of sometimes list. Oh okay. Decay likes to be pampered now. And what what is the first date like with decay. Chilin is like because this. Here's my thing is for the longest time like I always whenever I will go out on a date you know because you don't have to always be like let's go to the moon and I realized like the movies are like the worst about call. You should go because it's like you can't talk to them. You know first of all you can't handle Emma like a popcorn okay get your own and then like you know when they over is like you just three hours with somebody and it's like okay. I'm Kinda done which you've Zhao was the decay chill date light. Yeah so I feel like being in New York Like the default thing is go get a couple of drinks okay like dinner or something like that is very aggressive. I feel I I ate because I what if you happen to hate each other through this whole dinner and then it's expensive you know And so usually we'll meet at like a cocktail bar. Something had one or two. If it's gone well I got options for afterwards To be honest I liked like activities and Bar Games we end up playing pool somewhere or Like other games or something. That's always fun. But the most recent one in fact it was an afternoon coffee and walk. Oh Oh so. That's the second or the third one so that was the first one. Oh coffee and coffee and a walk walk DESA. That's a good sign team. That's not bad right so now let me ask Shit is and it will get back to survivor male. How soon after do you text back or do you wait behind detects you do? I know I know so. That's that's something I think about a lot and me and my friends left about it like it is is crazy right. And I don't know if you can relate to this but that well why would not be able to. I've all just saying like if someone isn't texts me and they're playing hard to get like he. It made me want them more. It's it's so weird but at some point like when it comes to like texting quickly double texting like I'm over like the nonsense. I'm over for the Games like we're all adults if I WANNA see you. If I'm hype that I just saw you like I'll text you five minutes after the daylights Smiley faces on Emoji. And you know Decaying grotto awesome but also like there is something to be said about someone who's always has their phone walk around with their phone in their hand like they're responding like every two seconds to your texts. Do they have nothing else better to do. And that's all they care about so but if I'm buying my phone text back immediately but I like to think I have have other things going on demand my focus not editor art now. This is the follow up to the last question. And then we'll get back to survivor nail house who argue because you know in this digital day and age is a lot of catfish so that you slide into the dam. Like how soon do you give your number. And then how soon do facetime customer may ah like some is sent me a message. We're talking I WANNA facetime you because I feel like you know well for me obviously day men so it's different so I got like catcher bydgoszcz auto by bright. You know sometimes if it's too too much the same then I'm good so I need to like feel like I can. I thought I need to know that you are alright. Attractive as your instagram photos. And I need to know like whether or not if there's like a connection via the face time or video you don't have an iphone so I'm begging you don't snapchat or instagram live. So that's a good point because I have an android and everyone out there team. Green Tech's don't hate it. Don't hate it. It's a company phone. It's a company phone but yes I I cannot facetime love to But also like it'd be way too much work or like way too. I just way too much to be in the DM saying like Yo. Could you download what's APP or download duo so we can like see each other via video. I haven't haven't thought about the INSTAGRAM. Live or something to be honest. I think that'd be a little weird. I don't know no you can you adding we're argued. You can video chat with the mighty on Instagram just jaw. This is boom right there. I can look into that but a couple of things here. A couple of things here are can't do that. I am a big fan of one one like getting out of the DMZ or getting out of the hinge messaging as quick as possible. So like I would like I I give the number relatively quickly like interested Another thing there is. I all hinge photos. All instagram photos in my mind are elevated rights. Percents that you've got a discount and a little bit and then since I cannot video I do like a strong phone call early on to like setup plans or whatever for like if you're going to get to know each other like try to go back and forth about timing like let's just settle this over phone call. Perhaps I could take your video tactic on Exxon. Well if there is there is about to say hopefully next time you know and then okay because my deep this is like you know you are pulling me in here. You're making me interested her go do you. You gotta decay sexy voice or are you just like just like hey. It's Chris or that was a joke. Are you like you know was the baby or like what you just like you know. Might you know what's out with. I don't think I changed my voice too much. How's my voice coming through right now? It's coming to you decay. Chill it but I just in my I just like I don't know 'cause I got this imaginary decay Chillan Chillan Emma Mine and you know you just a low key life you know what a what a what is a yourself in et dino has detective Jerry Nine so you Wanna go again and walk around the city. I never do that now with good that that is now like who is. The first time doing promising was a dog. I I'll take your word so speaking of relationships. What was your relationship like with Chelsea out there? And do I feel like the edit didn't really paint the whole picture now I didn't because is I don't think it was the picture that they wanted. Unfortunately everyone knows that show mance is not worthwhile as a player and you can see even even like the little bit that was showman's was attacked by air an MRI and some other folks but When when you felt the reason they voted her out live or were attacking her? Did that like rays. Were you like Oh like they hate it or you like Whoa. I have to actually to get more chilling strategic mole yet no a little bit of the latter because let me let me just first say like She's a lovely girl girl and I felt like it was kind of set up because out of our tribe of ten the only two single people at our these openly single people because Elizabeth wouldn't tell us what she was. I don't the only to openly single people were Chelsea night and we happen to be around the same age we she lives in La. I live in New York. We work she works. I work at Google like she played. Soccer occur but basketball so like I felt like it was kind of set up but then of course your girl lane and everyone is like Oh my God like this is perfect Yeltsin's you get also became like an inside joke and then Chelsea talk on this out and be like yeah. We know we can't do this for real right. It'd be terrible for both of our games but like we could work together but like let's not be seen cuddling and doing this and that and that so of course there is the footage of US coddling but then a lot of people like to overlook there's footage of cuddling with charisma sma and everyone else said cuddles a real part of their and I was I was getting around sharing my love ocean muddles but of course the one time was with Chelsea. That was aired out there so I love her. Love her as a person But like I said I like to put my heart place and I'm working on something right now so That was that. Your question was like did I did. When they voted her out heighten my senses are not a little bit It heightened my senses but I also so found out when that came out that They were coming from me. And then I was saved by Elaine Elizabeth who wanted to protect me for whatever reason So that drew me closer with them as well and a little bit further away from missing Aaron who I like to think. I was relatively close within the beginning right now. Kind kind of moving on. Do you feel like you played a major role in getting Kelly. Play her item so I think yes I mean uh of. We went into the swap right and she had her five. Oh Guy and we had three Lyra in town and she was not like getting closer Chris. Thomas all right so she wanted to bring someone in from others ideas me just because we were getting close I know on the show. It showed a section where we had a mutual friend and ex girlfriend of mine And that's absolutely true and I think that was a big part of what brought us closer together Did did she play it just because like she loved me around and like wanted to work with me. I think it's partly I mean. Also I know she's like a very big fan like hugely strategic back in like a great player overall she. The idol was expiring right. The one that she got from Allendale idols. It only as always available for two tribals when that it was the second one so I think it was a part urgency on that part big player mentality of like Shit. I'm not just going to let it expire it. Let me at least this thing And then I just happened to be the best option at that point but I mean she wasn't going to do it with Krishma if Thomas storeowner cancer you're dealing with that so there has to be something said about Marley show with her. That wanted That she wanted it to happen but was it like one hundred percent of the reason I can't I can't say that got you. What was your mood like when she told you her plan? And how do you think it affected affected your strategy and your behavior prior the prior to and during the tribal and just decay chilling about it or God. Yeah so that night shown a lot but I specifically recall that night And I was like so relaxed for some reason but this is before she told I mean I I recall it was earlier that day. We lost the challenge but we were starving on the island because the other island actually had like other fruits and vegetables does that people could eat. We just had the rice and we were struggling But A and Kelly like learned how to crab really really well together and that day. Hey we actually call thirteen. Crabs for I think it was seven of us at the time and Nora was Vegan so she wasn't having an of it so it was six people and we had I'd like to crabs each which is like amazing amount of food and I just remember sitting there with Janet. Jamal Jack Kelly and we were tearing into these crabs so so good like obviously with our fingers juices getting all over us there's flies everywhere or wipe all juices on our underwear like it was it was like the best feast ever and we're sitting there hanging out and like I think everything's cool because up until that point I knew I was like my back was against the wall when when the swap happened initially fibers three then tom got out and then we won the next challenge. If you remember when I made like the Big Bang shot like that big old like angled by basket thing right And so after that I got actually the okay from Jamal. Janet that like Dean we want you on board Lord Like we're going to take you even if we lose the next one to the merge and why this is happening like my big Strategy they're like coming into the swap. Hope was to try to convince them that the previous vote was the blind side of Chelsea. Right I was the only one who didn't know about that and I was like if we if I make it to the merge Tau ever going to go back to my library they blindsided me completely like I have no loyalty over there. I need you guys and I was pitching this Janet Kelly etc and meanwhile I was trying to drive a divide with Nora and Jamal because nor was out to get your ever since the molly vote so I thought that was working and when I made that shot and got the okay. Okay from the Queen. Bee Janet Kingdom all. I thought I was good It wasn't until the next challenge the one that had like the shooting the coconuts into the big basket and like the big old block puzzle that we like loss at the last second. I thought it was good. We ended up losing and then while Jeff is handing them unity trophy free to the other tribe. I didn't see it but Jamal. Janet claim they saw Aaron. Look over to where we were standing and look at me and give me like a big old smile and nod again. I didn't see it but they saw that. And we're like Oh my God like Dina Narender Boys like hearing him. What's up and like maybe Dina's and as against those guys as we thought and supposedly flip in but while we're there sitting eating crabs fast order bit? I was still convinced that I was good to go. So Oh I was going to my confessional confident eating my crabs. Now's like if I do get voted out like I did all I could do And then Kelly came up to me like two minutes before travel rabble told me and my surprise came through on camera but like I was the most shocked ever I was like Holy Shit like they're coming from me and wait. You WanNa save me with this idol. This is going to be absolutely insane. so yes it took me by surprise when it happened and then at tribal like I just did my best to play the victim of like you know we lost. It was my fault I you know and and me kick Kelly's plan was to not say that it was from her just to say I found the idol because she wanted to be removed completely from it. which is I was very intelligent on her So I just acted like you know what my back was against the wall. Like what do you guys think I was doing all these days as I knew we were down five to two and I knew Christian was getting in close with you guys so I knew my back was against the wall. Of course I was GONNA go look idols so trying to play all that up And then everyone it was pretty shocked when it all went down. Yeah that episode was crazy. Let's switch gears a little bit Would did you what I I can't even talk. When did you find your prized? Jordan's dead Nora. So she hid them. That was the night after the night after the family visit. Sorry about that the night if the family visit and that dried I basically tap tommy in the spoiled. Nora's the whole plan right so she's pissed and she blew up on tribal But yes she hit him. She was going crazy. I think there's like a secret scene or something actually on. CBS All access. That's pretty funny about the shoes note. Did you was hard. It took them or were you just like where my decay Jordan you know. At first I was where the heck are they not. I knew I put them right here. And then I was telling Tommy I was like dude. I know normal to take him and my I was. She threw them in the water. I was like Damn North Room in the water. What the Hell So? I went to bed thinking they were gone. Then the next morning I like had a clear mind like shit like let me go. Ask Her and then I was like actually i. I don't WanNa talk to her. So I I I S I s Tommy. I was like Yo nor took my shoes. She and he knew he saw them where they were. And it's funny because she put them high up on the flag thing there and I couldn't actually reach them which is hilarious so I had to ask Tommy to help me get get the Dow but they were there we found it was all good and then there's actually some behind the scenes stuff. If you want to get into it of that day. We had of reward challenge so in general there is a couple of words reward challenges that weren't shown on the show because the island idle time took up a lot of that episode. There was award reward challenge that next day the day. She hit my shoes and it was for a SPA Day Tommy ended up winning it and then Jeff gave him a pick for a partner partner and he picked Nora and then of course as ingests typical fashion townie. You have one more big and I'm like Yotam come on please So Tommy ended up picking amy and like as I walk up. I like Tom You hug. I go to give Nora Hug. And she like darts back with their hand up like with an ill. Oh face on what you're going to hug me and Jeff immediately jumps on. Whoa whoa like what is going on? Here tell me more about this. What happened and I said that sounds like still pissed and I said some comment like this thirty nine year old girl? Whatever the heck thirty six I don't know like hit my sneakers and she's super petty about it blowing her up? I bet drivable so the three of us after all this went and spent a spa. Hey together and I. We tried to mm-hmm mull over our differences before before going in I tried to be like Nora talk good. Let's enjoy ourselves with put the past in the past I I don't know if it really worked but we had day But I wish they showed the more attention after the shoes because I was pretty funny so with the season all said and and done. Do you feel like who feel like well number one. I guess my question is to you. So did you feel like going into now. We're like like final episode like the finale. Did you feel like you had a chance to win or were you feeling. Why if definitely go into Tommy or were you like? I'm about to be a millionaire. Oh you near. I thought I had a chance. I knew my back was still up against the wall. Because going into final tribal council the jury was display five five original loci little original. I wrote And I knew that if I was going to get my five zero like I was done because is five. Oh Guy wasn't really close with at all and I was hoping like maybe some of my theatrics could flip one of them. So I knew if I was going to win it was going to be maximally six votes for for me so I was GONNA escape by. I thought I did have at least a little bit of a chance. Depending on what the folks on the jury respected Go ahead it is. Is it it. It is interesting to watch your season because it's like you know you really did turn it on at the end and a lot of people compared you to like Chris. I wonder would and the sense fan. You know Chris under would only play the game nine days and although play the game the whole thirty nine days like you know Decay Chilin Mole was on and I believe like the first half of the season like are like the first episode. You and even talk so a lot of people kind of sort of like compared to to Chris underway but as a fan watching the show. Obviously I didn't really know what to make of you. Okay Dina Low easy on is like you know fun to see what he's doing like you don't. You're doc really making them basketball shots but you know he's good to have their but then towards the end it definitely was like Oh like you know and I feel like some game players. There's the might be like. I don't even believe he deserved it. Other game players are like you know like some people say what Michelle Fitzgerald like you know if you make thirty nine days no matter how you got there like you deserve to and then towards the end like you're phenomenal. Did you personally now take yourself out of decay Chile. And let's just say your name is. We'll just name is Chris. You're a fan of the show. You watched the show. And you're Ed honest and your honest opinion Chris what what was your take on. Dean's Gameplay by feel like what what would you like. Do feel like it winner were the. Do you feel like as as a watching bed. What what do you think? That's a tough question because the statement you said about like if you make it thirty nine days that means a lot right. I don't think I respected that as much. Watch before it went on as fan right right. So now you know like that Israel that Israel. So I don't know I think as as a fan and like I was all about the big moves and like I've got a lot of feedback on instagram and twitter. And whatever and like a lot of people like damn you got you got hosed like you you got robbed like it should have been you and I think fans at least perhaps the cat more casual viewer like loves the big exciting dramatic moments which I brought at the end right. There's also like a recent see bias for viewer in that. It was weeks later now that these big moves are happening in my early. Perhaps blunders and Status was kind of old history by that But thirty nine days is way more. Condensed I'll also say like like relationships are so interesting out there because like you meet someone right. You're you're on date three with a girl like there's no I know what you're talking about like. Oh how was your poop that day in the water you know or like talking about I really really deep things The fact that you spend like twenty four hours in such a new doing virement with these people who've just met in such taxing environment like the bonds you build initially or so so intense and so impactful they carry all the way until final travel council With that said like my chill mode went like so chill to the point and this is part of part of the stuff. I regret that like if I wasn't working with you I openly was not working with like Janet Nora in Krishna And we like we mutually. We knew it but like when you're there in those last that last week of the game like in order to be continued to grow your relationship like you're done talking about in your family your favorite foods drake and all this nonsense right. You talk about that. In the first couple of days the way you build relationships at the end is you work with them. And you build trust at voting together and talking about that strategy and like I said if I wasn't I wasn't working with you that wasn't really even talk do so I was just on the surface level whereas I felt Tom. You did a great job of like. Even if he wasn't I don't like wanting to work with you he'd be talking with you all the time so I think like a lot of people like that relationship building respected that from him and disrespected me for some of the very quiet game. I played despite that being my intentional strategy bull right and I think it it speaks something. Is that like you know you got there. And it's like not everyone gets there and so like the fact that you could even do. That is an accomplishment in itself like listen I can only give eleven days so it deadly means something so would it if Caitlyn stopped ghosting you and text you now. Not only hinge uh-huh green tax and Decay Chilin. We need you to come to the island. which would you replying replied? Yeah I've gotten This question a lot and I I think the first time we're actually comfortingly just said yes. So That's interesting but I know right when I got out it was held a never. Is that again. It was miserable. No Way I'm going to be sitting in the porn and rain again. starry myself and losing twenty pounds I hated it then after going through the whole thing watching it and again again like I think I'm biased because I had such a positive outcome personally for me But like it was like a very life changing experience in that like it taught me like like you're just so challenging so rewarding but the ozzy the fact that it was so challenging Wyatt made it so rewarding so that for that reason like taught me a lot of good stuff there and then and secondly to be honest if I declined it. I think I'll just be such a brat like there's less than six hundred people who have gotten the chance to play and way less than that who have gotten the chance to play twice so that'd be I feel like I would let everyone down saying no It'd be very unhappy with myself. So yes Kaelin if truest okay. That's the yes the both of us. Okay thank you got to play again. What would you change your game or where would you go dramatically different? And here's what I must say. I'm an answer for you low key. I feel like you should play the same game and I'm GonNa say when you play again again because we're GONNA speak in existence that you are a great player. You're so much fun to watch. And you're actually life somewhat of a doe person but I really you feel like you should decay. Chill all the way again because I just I feel like it will work for you dean just such like your athletic like Mike handsome white male. That's like you know hit. You know what's going on but like to be so removed but not removed. I just feel like how like I in my opinion but you know I only made eleven days so you might want to me but I just feel like I don't know I will be like I would play a similar game. Maybe try to lie. Work work with other people but death will I would say would be. What are your thoughts? How would you like to play the game like if you win you get to play again? 'cause we okay decay slaying again. No I completely agree with you like a very very similar game with some minor tweaks and I like to add to the point you made like sad sad play the same game make it to the end. And then I'm like look like this was my strategy for the first time but like this was my explicit strategy right getting and execute the shit like I I always go back to like the preseason podcast. We did With I forget if it was with Robert Jesuit whoever But I remember listening to them and there was Jackson out there. Aaron out there I think you would tommy out there. And their whole strategy going in was to be chill and to not be the strongest guy. It's not to be the most competitive got they do. I think Jason even dubbed it like shut the fuck up strategy and that was my strategy to but here I am like executing it so if I were to play again it'd be the same but you're right I don't I think I don't think I can like cut off people like I did because then I'm going into final travel council already down two or three votes right and that's not doing anyone so and like I said in order to continue building those relationships especially towards the end I at least he faked the game of like saying. I'm working with you because that's how relationships continue so you to grow towards the end for just being. Oh Smiley so I mean that's all the survival question that guy. I'm so honored to have you on the Purple Pants. podcast but before we wrap this up. 'cause I WANNA give you a final thought but before we wrap this up the question everybody's mind okay. where underwear okay. Okay if you WANNA share. What was the final total Chilin underwear man? The first question where that to be honest. I don't want to know I know I know the person's ebay handle at a male because I bet my money e mail I my guess is yes but again I I don't WanNa look too far into. I don't want to take picture on any of that. I don't WanNa know whoever it is y'all enjoy it but do what you gotta do. They they hooked it up with a smooth seven hundred and thirty dollars. Oh I cannot complain I cannot complain. They were unwashed offended. APPROP- The news I to that world that that was unwise now y y major seldom ebay and why don't they just to me true through Georgia or Arkansas. Nor too right right. That's messed up north. I love you to be honest. I heard I heard about someone and to be honest. I thought it was Wendell. Who who sold their underwear unwash- in a previous season? If I run on that who who's window your good old buddy. I know who that live at. Believe he did And I know other players like Chris Underwood's soldiers underwear and like yes. I guess that's the thing so decay chilling got off the the island and was like I'm decay thinking. Yeah I'm just I'm just following that following the legends. That have come before me. So how much did you think they was going to sell. Four so so I so I was for some reason someone told me that previous under had sold for thousands and thousands so as I it'd be cool so on pay me fifty dollars for for it fuck it. Why not go for the big deal so I put the minimum bid starting bid at five hundred dollars? Oh and I was like okay. No buys it. I'll just realistic listed and put it lower but I went for the fences and and we hit it doesn't sound good considering And did you think it would be life because most people put their underwear and nobody really cares people to bid on it. Did you think that it will become its own whole thing that it has taken the world by storms. He kept telling her that second moral by store but no. I didn't think it was going to be anything I thought there was GONNA be. I thought I posted on my instagram story. That was really the only marketing I did. I thought I was about to get a bunch of shit from all my friends. Be Like what the heck are you doing. And then yeah. I thought there'd be like a subset of people Perhaps a handful who had been I was not expecting it to take off that much. I like that I did. It was like five hundred. The five dollars is like damn we made it and it kept going up kept going up. It was actually like during is like right after the finale. Yeah right after the finale when I posted it and I was like. Wow this this is insane. What am I girl Lori? When you use your underwear she was all four opt for it? She was like. I don't think they're gonNA sell for much but you can try shoes. Thank you show. You don't WanNa wash them. She was also strategically. You did not wash them with the correct. Oh what what are. Your thoughts are D- D. I mean hello. You thought if a seven hundred twenty dollars year but you know people in the freaky stuff so I figured that's why I was like let me texting and see if light right because you listen you let smart move now. Did you pack your mouth. Did you put them in the bag. Did you write a no no so we like right. The day after final travel council. It's all still on the Opondo. They gave us like a big old. Oh you're talking about. How did I send it to the purchaser? Yes Oh yeah just put. It was like like a Manila folder. One of those padded Manila envelope dance. I think I'll put a note. Thank you enjoy nothing crazy. Easy for the person who who bought by pants and the only one who bought my jacket they want like a signed photo or something and I told that if I have the Mike could could. I make an advertisement that I'm trying to sell my shirt. Button down the short sleeve button down. Then I rolled up and final tribal council for one okay someone bid on And won the bid for like two hundred fifty five dollars but they never paid me so I'm attempting to relist it but oh if anyone wants to get in before relisted let me know still Oh have oh now. Is it washed unwashed. We wash it. We I mean listen at UN. I believe unwashed is the way to go. Let's you may seven hunchback so we buy any final words the before I let you go out and want to hold you up. I know you got a lot to do the first of all I love all the decay stuff. Keep going one time time like on my instagram. Me and my friends were joking that I should make every single caption. UK Okay whatever you know what. I'm doing twenty twenty. That's my new year's resolution so I did it for like a couple posts in a row. There's somewhere out there and instagram. And and then like I just got started getting so much in so many roles for my friends I was like yeah. You're right. Maybe I've taken this too far but yeah thank you for doing that and thank you for having me. John was honored when you reach out to be honest. I heard it's the most popular podcast out though. So y'all got you ain't even know who I was cool. Is I know Louis beforehand but once we met then you you brought on a life of your own thanks real for road. The love Israel now row. Oh quake has you know I'd be lying. I got another question. Were on a block because you know word on oblige. You know they'd be talking. They decay used to be a rapper. Can you confirm that. So the keyword is used to be oh There is a timing college. Oh where me and my buddy. It was his name Amos and EP goes by deeper Deep Daddy. So you had D- D did You say wait Dad Oh name decay decay so deep and decay or or daddy she. Yeah and we. We threw down a couple of tracks. Actually ones that are. I don't WanNa say great. For the general public will probably hit on them but like we had like a core group of friends is probably like six of us and we made a song at the end of freshman year That basically every single bar is an inside joke of ours from throughout the year here. And it's like you think back to the memories and it's like super super funny and whenever like the five six seven of us together we play it. It's hilarious and then we made a couple more freshman year nonsense ones But then we took off completely and then it was like the co the last month of school senior year. And we gotta do like another another recap song so we made one final song about graduating and again all the memories from throughout our four years like every single bar has a memory on it and it's it's again pretty awesome when we link up and play it but for the general public she year. Okay with you recording artist you knock you know I had a couple of songs. Hit them high. I tune charts so I might have to tap decay for a decay hook now. Last last last question I promise. Decay Chile With a would you consider yourself this. Would you consider yourself assists acadia. Buffet of right holder. Which you consider yourself Zach or as you wholemeal house about say I think I think the whole meal plus a plus Entre Hustle desert though? Okay what would a child or no child just with the gigantic okay. No sugar added though. I'll keep it tight. Listen you dog listening argue low splendor a never hurt nobody. PK and then so if you were meal now you better answer this question right. Is it a meal or is it. As Eddie I do not know the difference data safety they went into sane hours gonna go with his addy. I'll okay well. That's the right answer. This indicate Chilean. Thank you so much dean really really really really really appreciate that. Thank you I appreciate it. I'm honored thank you so much. And what a great interview from decay chilling. Thank you so much for coming on the Purple Pants podcast Okra. Yes now move right along. We got sixty days and Litho if washing it comes on Thursday nights at ten PM fetch a DV ours would have a cable streaming service that you use. Okay so I told you OUGHTA premises sixty days regular civilians. They choose the volunteer to go in to jail in a different state and county and basically there like a mole and the goal is is Survived Sixty days in. And you know obviously they do exit interviews and they really kind of like talk about the things that they witness how they can make the jail a little better so you know. We talked about Ashley last week. Ashley was police off the National Guard. You know she really was like the only one excited to go Win and so you know. She had a hard time because she had no clothes and being as though she had no clothes when it was time to do laundry dating give her any clothes. You know the correctional officer officer officer Williams was not Ashley Favorite so this week. You Know Ashley is back she you know. She was in the cell with her cellmate. Arita gave her thumb shirt put on pants and that night the St went to sleep. She put she did the signal of her left arm over her chest to say like I'm done so this week. You know she gets pulled out. Well no before she gets pulled out you know. She is making friends with a lot of the inmates. And you know the inmates a her start talking. And you know hard disdain. For Officer William. She realizes everyone does not like offers a Williams and she's talking so a lot of different girls and a lot of growth fan. I listen we all like a officer Williams. Either one of the girls has life you should file a grievance so Ashley was like okay so this is the kind of part where idea in really like Ashley but I liked liked Ashley but at an early like actually. So Ashley it's like okay. I'm going to file a grievance sitting at a table with a whole bunch of girls and she starts writing her agreements but minds you first of all girl this the the sixty days in actually as a police officer and all right how green bits at forty eight hundred hours on this girl. You are not a police officer right now now you are inmate. You've got to give yourself up like she's literally writing like she or write a police report so she writes a very professional grievance about officer Williams and experience that she experienced. I agree with Ashley. That's definitely with super humane like for them to like leave her in the cell naked. Like all night. You know if it wasn't for good over a good girlfriend Rita Helper. How you actually literally been asked out? So as Ashley is reading her grievance to the inmates at you actually you're not missed Williams. Don't WanNa mess with me on educated and I'm just like you know way actually that Kinda Sorta Rub me the wrong way. I just get this sense of entitlement from Ashley and I feel like you know. She is wonder woman she here like. You know she won't hurt Kim Kardashian. I'm going to save all these. Then make are coming in here to save them all like girl you empathy days in. You can't save the world but I just entitlement of like how she's like. Yeah I'm real educated. Indicate are not going to let them know when this letter and like mind. You grow your sitting around with these inmates. I how do you think that makes them feel like but some surprise the inmates were like wow. That's the most professional national ladder ice. I read like you're doing really great so To Ashley surprised later on an episode office that comes looking for her because you know she filed the grievance so she meets what the officer about degrees and basically you know he takes the grievance serious and you know she basically is like tells them everything and she's like you don't Miss Williams and so basically to officer confirms that you know different inmates of different social sectors of the pod have complained to him about Miss Williams and he's basically like that really upsets me And so you know it makes them WanNa take seriously so he's like you know. I can't promise you what what happened but I definitely will take this that with the Sergey. So you know ask the all episodes I gotta I gotta I gotTa so on one one night. Maybe I don't know what it was. But so you know officer Williams first of August girl. That where is her. Fashionable E. A.. We'd hear officer Muscle Pill so one night you know. Two girls is writing stuff on like the doors. This stuff so officer William comes and takes the dam and the ladies that ACA take another one acurite another one and Ms Williams is like okay right another one and I'll snatch it down so she's basically just kind of going back and forth with another inmate and she goes back to her and then a deputy comes in and Deputy is basically like you know the behavior witnessed like you know. You can't let them get onto your skin like you really have to like you know rise above their and Xiao Office. The Williams Aka Spicy bracy was not here for it. She was I. I have to deal with all the time like you don't understand essentially she quits so she had to take this. I don't have to take back ago. I go so you You know the he called for another sergeant to come down they meet her and basically she quits now. Listen let me tell you how correctional officer Williams his his me me she spicy. 'cause you're not me. I'm a role for a better. Bryce so she not me but she's spicy so at the she quit. Go go in there and give her bags now. This is in the middle of the night. All of this has happened. She takes her key. She turns the lights on all of the cells L.. Everyone's like what what what what's going on. Yeah she pumps out of here okay. That's how you that's how you job all right. So let's get into Dennis Denison. How's quarterback Yudo? He's six six got. You know a Nice Chisel body he you look all right. But he's annoying as hell okay. He's too cocky. He's competent if it in I was on his side because I felt like chief peak with picking on them. They were picking on him for very good reasons. But this episode we see Dennis very comfortable. The bowl with all the other inmates seems to be getting along with a lot of people now. Dennis describes us that the day he came in on was the day that the inmates got commentary. No comma a serious life when you get your snacks when you get your pockets when you get your hot dogs when you get a cup of soup you know when you get your underwear all of that stuff. So he came in on that day so basically he did not have time to put. He doesn't have soap. The basic hygiene needs so every time the dentist has to like WanNa take a shower. And y'all know Dennis he works. Oh seven times a day. He likes to take a shower after he works out so he likes to take a shower. Alive Judo Pot so he's got to go to the the desks. Ask The main desk of the unit to get so so. Dennis is like a so annoying so when Dennis goes over to get to sell. The the guard. Isn't there now. Magic hold on this season of sixty days in. It's not like any other season. Normally the seasons contained as smaller pies like the men's part pot has to have at least like three hundred inmates in it so one Gar so the guard is like over in a sales. How can a somebody and so dennis grab some soap now? He could have got away with the soap but Dennis is like. Why actually needed a medical form to solve a medical form so we Dennis Gripe medical form? Now Mind you you hear the other there. Inmates Mijo Bro. Peo- coming Joe Bro. Job Road Office to come. He's still just sitting here so the officer Hilo Chunky by he. Lo La Three Rehana push a four hundred pounds walking over. Hey Hey what are you doing. What do and so Dennis is artistic skirting so and so the officer comes over aggressively? Anti should should a mate with his death and so he's like you need to stop. You need to stop and Dennis is. I don't talk to me like that. Don't talk to me like I'm talking to you in a calm voice. Now this this is the part where I kinda SORTA agree with dentists. But SORTA don't like I didn't issue was in Iran. So whatever office says to you you should just like my bad. My bad my eh. But Dennis Dennis towering over to you know the Pillsbury dough boy correctional officer like. Don't talk to me like that. Donald Talk to me like debt so they go back and forth and ultimately the guards. Let's Dennis go dentists correctional officers. They don't strike fear me they know. Strike Fear anybody now. First of all sixty as in. How is somebody going to be able to inmate at day? Okay let's say at work this ain't nobody borrow and coffee from you you don't upstate. This ain't you go into a CO workers DASS. This is jail. How inmate able to go behind your desk? You don't really know what they were doing. And then you just let them walk away. That really really really unsafe. So that's basically like all. We really get to see from Dennis this week. Is there like you know. He's just super comfortable. Aw and just you know making the self their home so we get to Alex the Political Science Major. So is you know twenty four. He's a his last semester of college and You know basically. He leans on his parents for everything. Now let me give you not about Alex. Alex is the survivor fan. Now you know this week when I was minding my business business on twitter you know the Purple Possi- be only one of my purple pants. Posses alerted me that Alex had made a tweet saying he loves survivor. So you know baby boy had to get up on it so I was working with Alex. You hit up Alex. We talked about it. Alex was like Oh my God I love when he gets a loved. One are about to say one of your seasons baby only got one. This season he was saying he loved my season. I'm like Oh my God is so great they meet you. I love to have you on for the Purple Pants. podcast so you know listen. We went through the rigamarole. I'm trying to get ALYSSA. Purple Pants podcast but currently right now a e is saying. Wow you know listen Y.. Two season is Aaron. They don't want their participates participants participating and an interview lifted me. Alex is working on Alex. Is the Purple Pants. podcasts proud member survivor fan. Now listen so Alex Alex Lowe nervous you know. He reminds me of like a Christian ubiquity and Spencer. You know shots Spencer on the INTRO. So Alex Alex is you know little nervous right. Before he goes he causes. Bobby's about to go in and Islamist like well. I nervous for you like you know. You could tell his mom. It was like she and really want him to go win. So Alex got in. You know. He's like super kind of like just awkward socially awkward you. He's tall he's at the Alex is Kinda acute so he gets in there. You know in my first day we see them in there you know. He's asking his cellmate amateur. He got like it. Looks like it's like three people in a cell but they only got two beds for one person on the floor so he's asking the cell people like how does it work go to shower and basically like you know. His roommate is telling me his his sally is telling him that. You know you wait in line for the shower. You put all your stuff up when a little leads. Basically you get naked and go in the shower and there's no curtains or anything it's like three showerheads so it's basically time you're getting shot and you go out so basically Alex freaking out about this because like Hito really WanNa go in. He's like nervous so you know like we see him. Imagine first of all and then when Alex walks into the south into the prison after his intake as intake process with a lot shorter than a lot of the other people like you know basically he walked in and then essentially he went into the jail. So Alex like you know the cameras shows like freaking out like should I go. Should I like what his first interviews. He's like yeah. I haven't gone for a shower yet. I'm a little nervous about it. I can Kinda SORTA start smelling myself so I probably will need to get a shower so we see Alex you know. He's sitting down. He's looking at the shower. Now mind you shot onto a ado in Mexico in Outer Shala is somebody and makes you baby a B boy I made a blur out everything but I'm just saying okay I shower okay okay. I'm sorry sorry. Sorry sorry. Sorry so so. Alex finally gets enough courage to take it up getting a shower in the shower. He comes back out. He looks discombobulated. Just like a really. Wasn't that bad. It wasn't that bad and so basically we just see. Alex and dentists are in the same pot. Alex is just awkward like you. You know he likes going around and you know sitting at different tables and like you know once able he went up to and was like. Hey how're you doing. I'm Alex and the guy just looked at him and got up then obviously the TV like you know he sits down next to this like you know African American guy and and the guys look at them and then there's other African American guy sits in the chair and Alex is Sittin kind of pushed us Alex to decide and mind you need a shady just like TV. Two Day like Does the little captions and the guy is like this guy sitting next to you so I'm like you know. Alex is just super uncomfortable. So Alex like just get Aso's Alex is like you know. I wish I could be a little bit more like Dennis. Now Mind you. They pants or clip of Dennis. Woken up to everybody. Let every what's up man back about you know he dabbing them up giving them hugs. What's up Joe? I wish I could be a little more like Dennis. So you know. That's alison experience. Oh so then when Alice was sitting there watching. TV You know he's got all these little quirks and like you know weird little gestures so all of you know they like I dunno whatever his last name is go. Whatever your last name is looking for you? So let's get the interview. You know little private interview or production production productions like everything. Okay Alex Yeah and they're like did you give the signal analysis like no but then when we watch the footage Alex is so physically. He kind of looked like he did to signal but he really didn't now. Oh No I'm good I've got I've got a good. This is the first time this has happened. So that's Alex. I really feel like Alex is going. Be Our favorite personal watch now now. Jennifer finally went in general the born again Christian and I was telling that we know has a pass now for some reason. Let me what the whistle for some reason. Jennifer looks cute. This episode like it's weird like I don't know what she did overnight at the hotel but Jennifer. It's kind of cute. But you know she is. Her title. Is the born again Christian as she is getting ready for the processing. She basically tells us that you know. She started drinking at eleven. She was underage stripper at thirteen. First of all which Strip club that is because they need to shut it immediately. Thirteen okay she. She says she had a she got pregnant. Her sixteenth birthday is wish. She said not me so after she had her child she just felt like she's her life around now. One thing that I noticed about Jennifer is. She's got the crazy is she. Reminds me of a Danielle snob. Snubs from you know the friend of the show from housewives of New Jersey and I get a little from Jennifer a little entitlement. You could definitely tell. She has a path so Jennifer goes in. She goes in the intake cute and you know they give her her welcome bag which is basic lancaster sheets and like flip flops. All of this and so where she's waiting to go. I went to the unit. Wanted to just check your sheets. Make sure you've got your pillow. CATHRO Chow. I don't know what's going on with this jail with Alabama but Jennifer opens her sheets. And if the blood Dr Blah owner and this is the second time that we've heard a blood in this. You Know Ashley had blood on her. She's like what's going on but you are now used to work in a psychiatric hospital title. where all types of crazy things happen? But this is what I can tell you about the psychiatric hospital I worked at that was it was a locked facility. So it's Kinda sorta like a jail our sheets and betting were clean like anything had a stain on them. They would throw them out and like we'd like our sheets and stuff. Every time we had a new patient they were clean. Like death really disgusted thin. So you know she goes up to like this rookie guard and she's like I blow my sheets and able to get another one so the Gar kind of looks a little dumbfounded. Because he's like Oregon a guy. I think he had a little crush owner so basically he got hired and sheath and we see Jennifer going into the pod. Now this is the thing that I would say. They about agony when every participant walks into the pot now. This is the editing of the show. Anytime inmate is screaming. Joe beat you up or like fresh fresh Meat Chow Day love to copy and paste audio to first of Aw. Everybody can't be every time somebody walks in because every time that might go into the unit brush. I me all vocal. Somebody's listen so that's Jennifer walks into and basically that's all we really get to see Jennifer this episode now my grocery neath the at risk youth the at risk youth educated. You not look like she had a pass us. Oh that's just between and whoever she won't keep it too but you know she can't eat gluten. She's having a hard time you know. She had told us this episode that out of the five meals that she's received they've only had had one solid and one and so she really can't eat anything with gluten and so she's really liked struggling and Xiao Shi in the same. Ain't power and ask the Ashley. Aka Kim Kardashian Save. You know ashes like shiny struggle over here and you know Chinese is really going through. I really feel a lot for her. So basically a Chinese gives the signal after. I don't know if it was breakfast and lunch. They pulled her out and just breaking down. Like you know this inhumane. Like they do not treat us like we are human. She's like I have A. I have a severe allergy to gluten. It's messing with my life and they don't care so basically that's all. We really get to see a shift. Now Matt Dumb Marine Chad the Marine careen guy. You know who was cute bag today Geilo chunking you know who was a kid historian Esta. He told one person in the story. They was like that as it makes sense. Only he really only like state eight in his cell. He came out so like the balcony and s e last episode. I told you he gave the signal you know he was just say. It's the worst assistant or my wife. An AH basically they pulled them out so you gave the signal. He's just like to wear a Puerto regret this. I don't want people are homeless. See me that are weak. But I just can't do it now. My Judas season is probably the worst of like of sixty days in that I've seen but baby it. Alex can take a shower. Okay I have a dream mm-hmm that man should have been able to make in the marines man but baby matt taps out okay. So that's this week's episode about to say love at the lockup of sixty days in I'm gonNa tell you it's good you only three episodes behind if you have not watched it now. Let's get in to life after. ooh ooh listen. Live at the lockup got good this episode so so lacey and Shane move into the house. But you know. John had tax rex lacy earlier in the day that he missed her and that he loved and it has chest was her in Lacey got concern. Shane Seen Lacy texting to win her grow friends about John. You Know Shane and lace against this huge argument in a middle a block on the first day of the block screaming. Basically like you know Shane. All you do is run away from your problems and I'm not gonNA listen to you. Talk to me my best. And so she's like I believe in and basically you know he's like Mary issue was Ho- Oh that could be over real quick so basically Lacy Guitar her car and drives away. We see that Lacey is now looking for John. Lacey drives the John's house. She listen. Listen issues we live close to drives the John House. She's like his band as his truck isn't there. I'm getting concerned I'm getting concerned are basically like you know like you know after this fight with Shane. I really Kinda wanted to just talk with John to really set clear boundaries and so like you know really getting straight and she's just like I don't know what else to do she was about to call the hospital title called the prison. She called the jail she say is a John Air and they say here she like what happened and basically he got arrested on a W. A.. Dwi with possession. He had needles and pipes in his car and basically breaks down crying. And basically I'm not able to talk to him. Maybe more but first of all girl you Mary. So it's like maybe on love after lockup when Shane when John said she'll be back to me in a week maybe maybe jobless right so then. This while lacy is doing all that John John John John DOE crop to be nobody the giant in jail. Shane goes out to get a drink with his friend. Joe Now that's just talk about his friend. Joe Okay Joe. Looks like he was on sons of anarchy arche and he's got four bottom of Ryan thief he got one SUV and it's purple and blue. Who but this is what I will say about? Shane's friend Franjo. They go out to drink. Basically Shane is just like she's bringing this guy. John and starlight America Higher. Ed You know but joe with his one rotten SUV basically is like if she really loved Jonah one point. You can't expect those feelings to go away so he was like you know you got it respected and basically. He was telling Shane. Like do you ever ever or do you feel like you've got. Do you feel like you rush into marriage or for like you made the right decision and chains like you know. This is why I love by Shea. He I feel like I made the right decision so they okay you know one to Joe was like then give her the benefit of the doubt. Okay like you have a little love have compassionate. Okay let me find out. We need to get one to Joe on the path. PODCAST for one to Joe Message. Okay because he was really like speaking like knowledge I was like really kind of respecting Joe for their alright. So we didn't see from Angela and Tony he this episode by who who who Megan Microwave. Sarah Okay Michael was in jail. He's married to. Sarah has two kids. He met Megan. Wow May while he was in jail you know who got fell in love with Megan. He's still got all these other girls. He the math. He hasn't seen his kids since he's been on parole. So this episode Sarah Meets meets with an attorney and basically is a fair. She specializes in family. Court and basically saver is saying that you know the divorce essentially as finalized but Michael has not back in the state to sign the papers. She's also really really concerned about you know might she said that since Michael has been off parole he has not been back to see his daughters like they call him. He doesn't pick up. And you know favre has the bank statements so like you know she sees all of these. Different girls depositing cash APPs cash cash epping was the camp you get one hundred dollars a month for these girls list there. What's the name because listen? I could use some okay. I can't use a donation in my cash ab bryce Isaiah where these girls so thera like you know is concerned that you know anytime. Michael could come back in the picture. He could just take the girls and so she really wants to know her right and she's just like you know. I really want to make sure that I am the custodial parent. Now this is where my social worker comes in a little bit because like you know so the lawyer says well you could file a petition. That basically is temporary but basically quickly like with reason of calls that like you have a temporary order that says that you have primary custody of the children now. This is like you know I agree with Michael is not doing nothing obtained you know if you want a divorce divorce them. You know they try. She was talking about getting child support after him. But the lawyer said basically if he's not working the only thing the maximum that the state you can go after for him is twenty five dollars a month unless they can prove they've got other income from these other girls and so basically like you know Sarah's biggest concern is that she's like you know she doesn't doesn't want an and she says that's when Michael Does call he's always got all of these other girls in the background talking to the kids and all of these other girls that are not Megan. Nah I told Y'all when he was on a way to make house the foam wrong it was girl like hey was that boo and in the producer's like with that Meghan Noah some groceries. It's called a time but this is my one issue with Thera and it's just comes from social work background. I feel like you go into this family core and trying to get this temporary for rare like I feel like that is her like using the kids as leverage and I say that because if Michael has not come back since he's been on parole he's not page or anything. What makes you think that like? He comes in the middle of the night impact all of a sudden. I'm GonNa take the grew so I I don't know but I'm not in favor cashews so I can't really speak on. So that's what they were doing this episode this episode Michael Still in Texas. We see Michael. He's laid up at his hotel. Look like he knock. Knock on. The door is Megan. Megan brings some soup. You know. She's like Mike Othello Neka just you know show them some love. She have some soup from Rome. He can barely eat the soup. He he lays down because he's like I just can't eat fit. So Megan sees the phone. She tries to get his phone boop BOOP BOOP BOOP BOOP boop boop it's not working it's not working the point that she disabled the phone of all Megan. Listen girl right before the phone. Disables says you've got one more attempt girl after that one more time hip. You should've put the phone. Dale so Michael Wakes up. Michael's like you see my phone and Michael's I make us here and he's like what's up and she's like oh I was. I needed to use your something. Michaels gave real irritated. First of all making you should wonder why he's getting so irritated so he's like if you wanted that you could have used it and she's like well. I wanted to see who he was talking to. 'cause I don't really believe that you're not you're not talking to nobody else. Michael's I mean what are you talking about. What are you talking about? And then in the middle of the argument there's a knock get the door now. I'm like okay. I have a dream but that is something like blab in my mind's in the dream I'm like ooh it's going to be a girl. It's GonNa be a girl now. And previous seasons of life after lockup Michael Rearrested Megan was pulling some type away because she thought she was back with Faira. Mike has a best friend named rock. Okay on screen. We see Megan and rock kiss. Megan thile deep remorse about it. So she told Michael Michael With like you know you know you. You could already imagine what Michael's reaction to it. was you know first of all. The dog has all of the skeletons in his class. The one thing that she comes clean into about he's holds over her head forever. So knock at the door and Beg Bay is rock and make us like why here. Why didn't you tell me he was going to be here? Why are you going to be? Yeah he was like yeah. We are got highly him for something and she's he's like you stay here. I'm gonNA shelves from outside. So basically they go outside and you know rock is like you know I really just wanted to highlight and Mike. Mike is like Oh let me just talk. Let me talk because if you talk it's going to lead to something else and basically like you know. Mike is saying that he really appreciate it and rightfully so but shower rock came in and with Li- listen. You don't treat her good like you know. Every time you got a good girl you'll never know how to treat it and you know I'm in love with her and Mike von Arguing love for you will love it so mind you now. Megan has mistaken to the story that they just kissed so Mike is like did jaw do we and You know rock doesn't really say anything rockets just like well you know. Was You know we're happy. We're happy and then what you're saying you hit my girl and by hit I mean you know Oh and Mike Rock you with a you know he like I love he like Okay Lover Wishy right aside and then it kind of the episode ends at you know next week they show us a little preview and we see a little tussle tussle a little fight fight but first of all that would be so like okay now you WanNa be mad my like listen Mike is on my nerves okay. So let's talk about Andrea in the Mar Andrea to Mormon Newmar from LA INJURIES FROM UTAH. You you know. She got three kids. She revealed to US last episode that her youngest child was conceived in the closet. You know you pay twenty dollars. You had sex in the closet or let's say we ain't wants how the okay my been bow. We're not what I loved that. But listen so you know. He's coming home from a visit. He's been away Andrea at one point in time moved children's away. She didn't like the environment she felt like. It was just you know to urban for her so she wanted to go back to Utah so she's back ACA. Utah Lamar there. You know literally the first second time against the house you know. She shows the Mar- the Mars youngest daughter. The he doesn't know is his biological child yet. 'cause she was conceived in the closet. Who Bay? I didn't have a dream about that but listen stranger. Things have happened so they show him the cake. You know. The kids prepared a special dinner so that you know everybody getting ready for dinner and goes outside. And you know Lamar outside. I basically like Lamar basically says and you know injury is Mormon and so the mar kind of sort of airs his grievances with Andrea. About out. Like you know he feels like you know. They're African American family. You know the mark from the hood he feels like you know Andrea lives in a you know not basically what Mike said is the area is very Caucasian and like you know how he doesn't like it. He feels like everything about Andrea life from her legend. How she chooses she is just like she feels more comfortable in Caucasian areas? And Mike is like you know where black like I WANNA be around people and so Andrew is like well. I can't help it if if you know the best areas. Utah are where Caucasian people live like you know and if the best school are there that's where my kids are going to be so I mean literally. The conversation goes from zero to one hundred so they start arguing back and forth and then Andrew his oldest daughter. Now mind you I let kids. I'm not GonNa talk about the kids but her kids Very cute they're just peculiar. That's all outside so our door to come out and she's like mom what we've planned thrilling knife trip. You now the dinner Jennifer the mind. You guys are arguing and I don't think that it's like you know just like you. Not Her daughter fourteen like you know Kudos to her for you breaking up the argument but like how inappropriate like I don't know. Yeah I mean I like Andrea but I'm just like Gras so then Lamar goes and starts talking to injury a son who you you know. It's like assistant little different. Nothing wrong with it. And basically like he's like you know I agree now minds you all other seasons Andrea son do not like Lamar. So the fact that he's even like and this is the one thing that I will say and I've said it before is that like I really do feel like Andrius kids love Lamar and I just I I just to me. It's just so weird I don't. It's just weird. But whatever. So he's having a conversation with a Kinda SORTA grew. What what you're saying like diversity so Andrea Entry Awash is on a porch with our daughter? She hears like Lamar thing. Something she and you are GonNa wear masks. And you'll get my son to his you talking about his mother so Asia just like there was one hundred and that was all we got to see them. listen but Liz okay sure are all Josh Gad. Shirl and Josh from the after lockup sow we see Shero she back taxes you know the last time we sing shirl they with ETA castle looking for over two consortia 'cause grocery his back and he lifted she still so hold on. Oh who oh boy. Tito's and a lot less fruit person. I talk excuse me so last time we made sure that it was added castle. You not with planet but a way ensure with nit picking the castle. Josh broke up her shirl stormed off. We feast shirl driving in a car. Let like got all her belongings in her. Three year. Old Son Brandon. We know show has three kids so on the phone with Josh and Josh's like hurry up and get down here. I can't wait to see what's going on up. So basically you know after Shirley left. Colorado Josh was blowing up. How Foale they got back together and at this point? She's ready to make it work so she's leaving her children behind and she's taking her three-year-old son with her to Texas axis. She doesn't have a place to live. She expressed Josh that she does not want to live in the hotel. So Josh needs to get out of his mom's house now again this is my issue was shirl zero. The man is on restrictions. He has like but Josh tells us that his mom Tina is in a better place and since inch. Josh has got a job and it's paying bills. Josh spills like he is in a better place to have you come now. Imagine maybe Tina wouldn't mind shirl coming. Oh Man but childhood. Three year old son but Tina does lead to kids. So we'll see so Cheryl is driving to her sister's house lacy you know the sister Lacey. As correctional opposite does not like Josh. She kind of flew into Texas on love after lockup left abruptly so basically you notice this ticket confessional because you know everybody gets a confession basically. She's like the plan was for Sureau to move now. Might be making this up. I WANNA say Michigan but I don't know but to Michigan to move it where their parents so shirl sister lacey if I wa Brandy here like what's GonNa Win Lacey's like don't be mad by me I'm brandon are going to Texas and we're GonNa live with Josh and you know Lacey light if he still living with his mom and shows like he is. I don't think I'm crazy because I'm putting my life a whole for or it may and you know I like a shirl sister Lacey because she just look at how lying And so like sherline. Oh and Lacey. Apparently our best friends and so like you know she really just wants to give her the benefit of the doubt but now I really don't have Shay so basically saying like you. You Know Josh Changed Lacy like okay girls going back there on the Texas. After you went the first time he broke up with three times came home. Now you come back which thon and you still got. Got Two kids here Okay all right Lacey. Talk so we're report back only th-they now mind you. This is the couple been dying about clint. And Tracy. Okay Day was all love the lockup then they went to life after lockup and this about the therapies and their minds you my memory of them a little blur but basically weekly lacy is the meth attic. Agai there's just no way else to put it. I'm listen just stating facts. She looks like a math attic as she operates like a meth addict. Okay that's that's just that's that's the God's honest Truth Watch the show a you will think okay so and we have her love interest. This was his clint. Now mind you they never really say like what Clint's I would say drug of choices but bay. Clint got up past asked. Although like you know on the show he seems to be Tracy's knight in shining armor but watch this show and take two point three seconds they clan and you you lift Yuba okay. US Right now. Listen they met you know. Write a prisoner DOT COM okay. Listen Ain't nothing wrong with that. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Okay I may or may not be updating you on you know my little prison situation as well too so I don't judge there. I don't mind writing to prison. I think is fun not fine but just like you know whatever. So he met Tracy Chow this on love after lockup when I met the the first night they met just just to give you guys talk. You don't example of like this relationship first night that they met. They went out drinking after she got out. Went drinking. Had A great time in the hotel. So so clint woke up. His Wallet was going his car was born and Tracy was back in jail guy so basically aged took his car when are tricking got meth and went to jail and throughout the course of the relationship traces going to jail I think twice and my the only known each other for like two years maybe three years this point so cliched got a mom. Imagine Clint's mom she's got a beautiful house Sh- house like my mom house. She got a beautiful house and you now his mom is like well to do basically his mom. Don't want nothing to do with Tracy that Kinda sorta drives a wedge between Clinton Tracy but last season of life after lockup tracing tracing Clint got married in Las Vegas who Chile okay. Now that was like the last episode of the last life after lockup now this episode this episode three starts off the day after where picks up so bay. Listen I'll y'all think y'all Bachelorette parties. He's Li Ye. Listen Tracy back jail. Okay so am. I might be exaggerating because the major they said they went to Texas to visit family. But this is like literally right after they got married so the story is that Clinton trace the went to get a either too got married. I might be getting times. I messed up. If I M somebody tweet me. Message Me Molyneaux. But they were in Texas after the marriage too busy Tracy's family and they went to some type of basketball game and you're you're not a baseball game. The baseball game was fun. You know they were on their way to drive back home different state and you know instead of getting a hotel day was like Whoa. Let's just pull over angle to sleep now again me being a social social worker me being Working in a psychiatric facility that deals with mental health and drug and alcohol like okay like Y'all just decided that that was the best time okay so they woke up to a police officer knocking on their door knocking on the window. First of all if you pulled over and I were if I were to to do that. Hold on. Let me wet my whistle. Okay hold on our driving somewhere and I was like listen. Let me let me just get a couple of hours shutout. Okay okay because that makes sense first of all I'm GONNA pull into a faith in discrete area that you know. I won't be woken up by police so I can only imagine where they were. That police knocked on. They win. Pool clean out the car. You know searched him he had a marijuana paypal for him is where he said. Okay I believe and they arrested him. They arrested Tracy now. This is tracy narrating the story from jail now my just she got her Britney. Hear Britney Spears half head shaved and she's like you know and when they searched me she was like you know basically they they. They found what they found. So basically they found doc meth meth pipe and paraphernalia. And basically the producers are like. So does clint. Clint try to stop you from smoking. And she's by Clint's he doesn't matter now. Imagine what all of the other seasons that Clinton Tracy no magic low key Clinton Tracy are really like fair like by favorite of the show but all of the other seasons visas like you know Clinton is always like you know urging her to like do better but I just feel like why like why are you attracted to her like Clinton get get away like death why I say like they present or he tries to present himself like he something. But I'm just saying birds of a flock flock together and so basically basically that's just tracy and Clint. They just basically explained to us what happened the night. They both got arrested now. Clint is out and he has is to go home to tell his parents about what happening. And you don't she's on the five thousand dollar bond and he's doing everything has power to get out of jail child. Listen say whatever you want about Clinton Clinton Tracy by. I'm trying to find somebody that I've tried to find me a clint okay. I need to find me clint. That's right to die no matter what now imagine you can minus the math minds jail. You got you got mine is a lot of stuff but let's say I'm trying to find me a clint. So that's why I'm so intrigued by them but listen trying to tell your life after lockout. It's my favorite show. I love it all right. Moving right along my favorite part the pad cast is the Purple Pants. Picks a EH is the purple pants. Picks A U pick. I say you pick essay. You pick ads on you. Big Ads is the Pueblo band. Speaks with okay. Okay so right into it Paul Paul Laura rights biggest for Now that's a good one girl now. You had me thinking so I probably would say. My biggest regret was probably not going away for college so I went to. I graduated from Temple University. Not you go out. ooh Had a great college experience. Amazing thing but I do wish that I would have went away but I'll give I'll be honest disclosure. You know just graduating twelve gray. BRYCE is not the same price that I am. I was a little nervous. I was still like a little insecure secure about myself and my job was like I'd probably say after my first year of college I really came into myself but prior to that I really was just liar her so I was Kinda scared. I didn't WanNa go away but I really wish that I had like you know. And I'm the first person of my immediate family to graduate from college So I really wish wish I had someone in my corner saying listen go away. Get away from home experienced life and yeah so I'd probably my biggest regret now. Maj One of my Nieces Nanda is in twelfth grade right now as she's like an artist and she draws and she's amazing and she really wants to go to our school in Philadelphia and I don't want want to discourage her dream and also my nephew Jalen He is in Delaware and he wants to go to school and Delaware as well and I am like encouraging both of them like listening is I'm trying to tell you learn from your uncle mistake like go away to school. But they're really help staying close to home like my niece a non. She's super. We're close to her grand mom and my nephew Jalen this super close where his mom and so like but I really want them to go away however I'm just proud that they are looking to advance advanced their education and so I couldn't be more proud uncle but I just say like you know and might be uncomfortable. It might be scary but I feel like those are the Times that you grow the most in your life. 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Kate was Lou out of my budget but the Pants Akkad do so order the pants. I'm like yes I like my job I don't have. I don't even know win. I'm GonNa wear but you know sometimes buying something make you feel good and might not be the healthiest thing but listen. I'm all here for retail therapy. So boom ordered a more Friday baby Saturday morning. Wake I'll get email from norstroms. Talk about they return earned money by yes miss beyond say. Ib Part Super q collection sports payroll but some of the stuff is like you can go. Oh Wow like you know. Shoot Super Q so check it out. I love it. We'll be got. We got twenty right favorite Sitcom now. This one is a hard one but but when you read it the first Sitcom that came to my mind and my job might be dating myself because you know. I'm in my early to mid twenties early thirties but less than one of my favorite sitcoms is has to definitely be living single with Queen Latifah Kim fields. Listen I Salaam love me. Some living thing raging maxine. Shaw Diese okay. Raising our listen I used to love reaching I I just love the but also like you know some of my and obviously I just think back to my childhood. I'm thinking like with my favorite Sitcom but I definitely loves this a wet the whistle living single. I definitely used to love the cosby's now anytime I used to stay home. I don't know back in the day was it's the same for you. The Casa used Komo or one o'clock he used to come on like one end one. Thirty love the KOSPI's I loved the Martin. What else I love the wings? Brothers which I know about the waves brothers Everybody loves Chris. I love Seinfeld. Even our watch Seinfeld back in the day and I didn't really get it but as an adult doubt washing seinfeld. There's so many great sitcoms out there definitely love blackish I think blackish grey so. There's so many sitcoms so please do not. Judging on on this list this is literally off the flied. Then we got Jonathan rose. Ten Wild Crazy College party. Tell me crazy story. Now Johnson listened. I just told you I went to school in Philly so I lived on campus for two years and then I realized why am I paying ten thousand dollars extras. They don't campus so listen. Listen I'll move right back in a bar but a crazy wild store I really have. I can tell you my first semester in simple my cousin. My older cousin and Samir. He had transferred into temple. He didn't live on campus and so he had a whole bunch of friends that went to the temple as one night like he picked him up. He was like one of the while his one of his Stephanie. Stephanie was having a birthday party so she had a birthday party at the embassy. Suites Downtown Philadelphia. Someone pick me up now mind you. I was eighteen and I never really was I drunk before. Okay Okay so eighteen Stephanie. Birthday parties at the embassy suites. It was a whole bunch of our friends at like you know they had liquor and like. This was literally like my first Tom. Tom gave him soar up. And like so magical. I wasn't doing anything like crazy or anything but like the other people in the broom with I kinda store to get a little rowdy and Stephanie Vacuum. Though I don't know what because they baby boy this is like the first time baby boy was like who Esau and so. I don't know what happened but I know Stephanie. I want everybody out as the was like in the room. BMI cousin life we eighteen we. We can't drive so we like when here under the Bay while Stephanie. Have this major major meltdown made you. I really feel like piltdown with like everyone was drinking. She's not shrinking. We'll grow. Why are you having a party if you buy? But that was like the only thing that I can think of in my college where I probably could think of a couple of others but today's Eh distinct for that dish full episodes John Dinner Rolls. Okay so nothing crazy. Then I got PAT's a purple pants. Picks from Caitlyn Smith. What's the last movie that you saw? The last movie that I saw was bad boys three. Oh Oh who. Yes so I think it's Thursday night We got tickets. Shout out to Wendy's window. He's the plug. We got to go a special special screening of bad boys three in Philly me. Joe Hatch occupied and a couple of our friends. We went to the The Not bad boys. Three may-june baby boy was in a phone call about the NFL but it just you know how great day as Texan that. Come on out so I tried to like you know put on my happy happy faith which was like what's wrong with you. I'm like knock down but I was in a bad mood but the movie was her lair. Regis it was great and which is great to see like you know bad boys I remember going to see okay so funny story guy. Oh about to get emotional. So there's litter randomly just popped into my mind. So I remember seeing the first bad boys in the movie theater. My Mom took me and and I believe my for my three other brothers in me for this story about my brother Bet and so I was like the youngest and so imagine me and beverages time did not catalogue as so all I remember is back. You know we got out the car. We was on our way into the movie theaters and I was like climbing out the car and my brother bed like shut the door face and like we literally like hit me in the face and I was just I. I don't know how old I was listening. You don't mother barb. Don't play about her kids as an especially about how baby boy as my mom's side what I like my my mom preceded some US Bevin out in the parking lot. MIND SHOE FAMILIES AS I lie walking out to the movie theater. You think Barb Care Barbara Lee into that ass okay. And today she's like grab your brother's hand so then at the Bevin in a shut the door in my face I had to grab his hand and child minder everybody looking at us because you know barbs is lit parking lot up we pumped into the movie theaters and we saw bad boys and the movie theaters. so that's so weird random story but yeah but bad boys three. It's such a great series and like you know bad boys one. That was great. Bad Boys Two was great. I bad boy three is funny. It's great and you were on the block is there is a word if you watch the movie you will definitely see at the end. They definitely lean into the possibility of another one but I just read or an entertainment side. That bad boys four is in the making being a court and then we got who else we got. We got nat suburban or Akiem pronounce. This name but when you hear what you know your question it's like Mashburn bar from the Mid West but Tyson author may bar from the Mid West is back and listen. I am not target Okay she out here on twitter fingers she out here hoping that Tyson is the first one out. She just can't stand Tyson. So you know what it makes me feel so honor that I am in the club with survivor winner Lights Tyson. Okay as a person that bar the Mid West cannot stand and Mike Tyson is here for every bit of it. I love it. Our guys that's going to conclude this week's purple pants picks listen every every Saturday and Sunday Sunday or no maiden Friday Saturday Friday Saturday or Sunday sometime I will post to the Purple Pants. PODCAST on instagram. If you're not following if you guys could follow that podcast post host exclusive content there and on my story. Bryce Isaiah B. R. E. IS E. Y. A. H. I.. Post to my story Tori. Purple Pants picks. UCF topic that. She would like to have talked about listening right in there and get baby boy is on it moving right along. We're onto advice ace with brace hybris shooting this message for advice. What Brice? I'm a huge fan of the podcast. And I love when you talk to the fans. My Name's allison and I recently got promoted at my job after I switched industries. I've been working hustling for so long doing my thang. After I switched careers and I got somebody goal and the next step and I absolutely loved my new career but now being in this promoted manager role. I'm starting to get a lot of anxiety when giving new task S. although I'm learning new things and understandably getting used to everything I feel like I'm doubting my abilities because I just joined this industry one year ago while while people in my new promoted roll have been there forever. This isn't the first time I've been promoted in this job so I don't know why I'm putting myself down. I've never felt so stressed rest and I felt like I had imposter syndrome. Even though I know I shouldn't in and I deserve where I've come. I don't know how to pinpoint this issue shoe income down. Well Alison I feel like I can relate to that I've recently I didn't switch careers but I switched jobs so I'm doing something similar but I am in a new field. I'm in the healthcare field. And still I definitely can relate to this so much allison so number one. Thank you so much for the question but I feel like at my old job in my old position I was double. I like. I was ready to go. I knew what I was doing like you know people. Oh came to me for help and I was always there to help people and in this new role in ally and oftentimes like struggle and I get stressed out and I get mad because it's like I'm coming from a place that I knew everything from the back of my hand and this new field that I'm in I don't know as much and I hate the fact that I I don't know as much and I hate the fact that I have the extra help and I'm not the person that you know you can offer help I'm the person that has to seek help. Help instill it's definitely a humbling experience. And so what I would say for you as being a newly promoted manager I definitely can feel like if you got the position and now you are now supervising the people that have been there longer than I definitely can relate to there and what I would say I was sitting is there. It just takes a matter of time like you have to get more comfortable more confident in yourself love and some things that helped me out that I make a list like every day I gave myself a list of things to do. And you know even if it's the most simplest things just checking them checking the list off off and you know basically you know that helps me feel complete and so what I would say to you. Is that like do something like that you know. Don't be scared here to offer to not offer but to seek help seek talk to some of the other managers in the field and basically get a net for it but which are feeling out of thin is completely normal bananas so that you've only been with the company for a year however again we can look at the glass half empty or we can look at the glass last half four and I choose to look at the glass half four and it's like yes. You are amazing. Alison that within a year. Boom you wear people that have been with the company for so long so obviously you're going to feel some insecurities about that but it's up to you to tell yourself like you wrote to me like you know you shouldn't feel this way so all I'm going to do is encourage you. Listen Boo you got this position because she was the best person for so. Just take your time get comfortable with the roll acts for help you know. Seek your management feek managers. They don't want your level. Ask Them what they've done X.. Them some tips. That can help you out. There's nothing wrong with asking for help. And and that's what I'm learning in my position as well as that like you know. What if I don't know how to do something like I can't beat myself up because that's what I do? I'm like you know we're in a new field so we've got to seek help so my advice my advice to you. Alison is to just take. It's fine brief. Everything won't be okay as long as you get their paycheck every other the Friday girl. You know you doing something right so seek help and you know just take your time girl. Make a list of things that you need to do. Get them done you know and Ashley I feel like from reading this. You're amazing person so you will shine through eventually. It just takes time and that's what I tell myself as well to like. I like you know every time I certain job I hate it so much a month later on that much but I still hate it so just give yourself some time. Give yourself six months and just let yourself settle your in a new role and and obviously something new coming comes a whole bunch of different emotions that sometimes we don't know where they're coming from. But listen we are on a roll for a better bryce in the allison and listen. Congratulations on your promotion. You deserve it baby. How all right? So that's the price list. Get into the freak bag the freak of the week we even GonNa hold out as the one and only ripe. FM Birth Bay Bay this week one of the rha peers. Here's a photo on Gaddi. Obey Rob look like he was in the backstreet boys. Oh baby boy was holding a beer baby boy hat awesome sunglasses baby boy looked like he had on a shirt. Not a striped shirt. Looks like a shirt. Straight Outta Gavin. Winstons closet okay. Bright Yellow. Rs Live his best La. Okay listen I tweeted out earlier. This week is there. But I didn't know you was the original member the backstreet boys and you know not backstreet boys and sink listen. 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Survivor 39 Episode 2 Feedback with Shannon Gaitz

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Survivor 39 Episode 2 Feedback with Shannon Gaitz

"From my apartment has a podcast and now here's the guy whose life's motto is Yolo. Let's podcast. I am ROB SISTER UNIDO. Hello everybody welcome back to our feedback. Show for episode number. Two of survivor island of the idols excited to be back with you because so I've been looking forward to this podcast all week because I get the chance today to talk to one of our own podcasting superstars superstars I referred to her recently on twitter as the world's foremost survivor authority and we will find out if that is actually the case. Please welcome the lead anchor of our international survivor coverage here. I'M ROB as podcast. The Great Shannon Negates Shannon how are you. I'm great. Thank you so much for having me but this sounds like a test. It sounds like we're trying to test my knowledge. This is so yeah the sort of the asterisk that came along with the being the world's foremost survivor authority. was that well well. I don't know if she watches like the survivor. Maryland's the survivor Brooklyn's. The Fan made seasons is that is is this somebody who's out there. WHO's like hey not only do. I know everything about survivor and international survivor. I've also seen every fan made survivor. Yeah I mean there's definitely definitely those people out there. I never called myself the full month calling. I'm calling you put an asterisk. Don't even call me so I I was saying that you are the world's foremost expert on televised survivor. Okay I will take that. I mean that sounds like a lot of qualified now little uh-huh and I felt really special when you call me that and I'm now not this is kind of you all my mentor so I'm trying to get it. You're testing me kind of giving me and this is a chest and I'm working through. It and I think I'm doing really well. Yeah okay well. I should say in my example to you is never I I refer to myself as the rob that sucks so never put yourself out there and beat your chest and say I am the greatest because you said eh wrong with Astra's. Let's Nassar. Did you should yourself. I can say I never said it and I will say it even less now. Did I come into custody. Insulted the phrasing this this is this is like having to listen to the international coverage rob comes on as a guest and a real live wire and I feel like that's what we have now but you know I'm I'm just I'm so happy to talk to you. Shannon coming off of many many hours of podcasting survivor South Africa survivor Austrailia just finished another great season. Shannon has been doing post game interviews with all of the players okay you did all the plays edge of exist only did like eight actually counted recently because I was like tomorrow. We'll be my ninth and Mike did one by himself office. I've Africa so it'll be ten in total between the seasons. I was like how many did do and I did count. I thought it was more than a actually before I started to be fair. I reached out to Gavin Avenue and he said that he wasn't ready to talk about the season so would have been it would have been tonight if Gavin said yes. I maybe it was seven seven and Gavin would have been. I don't remember extenuating circumstances there on these Ed exit press exit interviews Shannon. I didn't have exit press the South Africa. We've done a lot this all. Africa and two good seasons and I'm really glad to be able to talk to these mazing. People like such different people in to hear their stories. Warriors is my privilege so yes I keep doing exit dress until tomorrow which is after the season and it's been a wild ride jotted speaking of exit press. I had the chance to you speak with molly the other day. What did you think of Molly's appearance on the exit interview and as somebody who conducts exit interviews. How did I do you are GonNa come on here and it's all you know you work? Your amazing. Molly is just crazy likable. I can see why she was such a threat. I think he was fine when she was like look. You have to really look inwards like that's the thing about survive. You've got to go to your friends and family and be like what is wrong with me. People will vote me out now. I know I'm just like wage charming and I have to contend with that in myself like you know that's a hard thing to have to deal with molly but you are you are. I thought that was actually really interesting what she was talking about about how you need to really sort of come at it l. like What are the things like the reasons why I would win. I think that those are the things that you really really need to downplay. I think this is really like next level survivor thinking yeah. I mean look the episode I was thinking. Molly is so Chami like get jumped off the screen. I was like I wish I had been able to see her in action preseason rather than just reading articles listening to interviews because I would have made a my winnipeg like this. The goal is GonNa Win Twenty minutes later she voted out of the game so maybe you should take a double asterisk on fulmer survivor because that's what I was thinking during the episode okay all right and we also had Bradley here on the podcast here in the studio and that was a very fun interview if you haven't heard that yet definitely check that out in the podcast feed Janet so I thought that this really came full circle for for us in terms of you being on the podcast this week because we really got a good look at Norah who has turned into a character this season and once upon a time I feel like that you made your official podcast debut with me as we were leading up to survivor game changers and you as one of the twenty experts that we spoke to did a pre season preview about one debbie winner her and I wonder could Nora be our second coming of Debbie as our Debbie expert he he definitely is right Nora Nora especially the things nor was doing specifically. I feel like would drive me crazy lightened. What would she do talking to people at six. AM Like I don't want to talk to people outrageous woke up. Frankly frankly this podcast. What time is it for you. Did you just wake up forty daylight savings. It's really eight forty. This is I would much. I would be better at like midnight so while you were sleeping. I was out here working all day and I think you're being really lazy right now. It was my nighttime. This is the same yes so that would drive me crazy getting people to exercise on survivor. What is that that that that would not vibe with that so I like. I got it from Malia subjective especially the first half of the episode when she's like Holy Moly caddy like like. I don't really think Mali's done anything caddy like it feels like this is more like a you problem nor up and then she came around like the second half of the episode was I think various various acting like I think it was so compelling that she was talking about being an outsider in real life and that gave like a deeper layers to everything she was bringing but the best thing about Nora is her dynamic with Jason then I love that because they're so different outside of totally opposite reasons and I think I was like affected by the fact that she could it really throw him under the bus she needed to and she couldn't just based on that relationship and the no dancing scene is all time laugh laugh laugh out loud hilarious yes so their relationship is something. I'm really really into going. Full it. Yeah I think it's very fine and they do come from very different. Worlds in Jason does seen he's much more of a linear thinker. He's a lawyer and she is more like coloring outside of the lines. We saw that scene where she's leading the yoga class. has there ever been as a survivor. World's foremost authority has has there ever been a time when there was a yoga class lead on survivor where people weren't saying like what is this Wacko Echo doing. Why why does survivor itself the the franchise. Hey Yoga's so much. I think there was there was a positive one. I'm going to actually use is my expertise and say Joey amazing leading into Cambodia and Tasha told me about as I like. That's right. That was technically Joba. If I believe back superfish back was enjoying out Joe's body yeah what is this. What is your goals in the name for it. I don't know exactly what the new Noga but she was very focused on one specific part of the human body your parents the Para sympathetic nervous system yeah my favorite part was when she was like planking and then the wave wide if she was set up there why was she in the so close to the Ocean Kim when she was doing the yoga as so many questions like why. Why are they doing this why would they. I actually saw like when you when you're in Australia Australia and there's so much like commercial press not superfan press around contestants. I saw someone was interviewed and they were like you get to do much. Exercise out on the island and the person was like why would you exercise on survivor. Survivor is ruling anyway. Go Challenge. That's so much exercise right. I never saw anybody doing exercise when they were out on survivor but maybe this was just you know. I don't know what your para sympathetic nervous system does is but maybe it gets you really fired up for the challenges. I mean while I was sleeping not listening to stop working. Sorry I should have been googling more about the para sympathetic nervous them but I wasn't also wall. We're on the subject of Nora that she said something else in the episode. Which I I WANNA get your take on. She talked about the the problem with the people in the tribe like anymore pitcher when people were around. What have you ever heard that expression before. Is that like an Australian saying no no not. Everything's just like administraion saying I was saying sleeping around different different issues with people know she was mad at people who were sleeping but I believe she's distinctly saying people are sheep ing around like this Chiffon anymore. You you Google it. I don't know this is like when Ben was saying to church it up and I was on with Mike and we couldn't figure that out but if people are sheep ing around let's see fully molly around let she is. Is that what they do they sheep. They're shaping around so I'm getting a lot of results for sheep around the world like I'm getting like a listing of all the various different different types of sheep that that's not what we're looking for shipping around. yeah sounds like it has a negative connotation. Yeah I mean everything she was saying about the negative connotation yeah she was she was not having that this was another problem that she had with the tribe in terms of their lack of a work ethic like little yeah. I I like that. She is a doctor seuss's to her complaints about the tribe. I do not like it when you sleep. Do you not like when yeah I do not want to go to rocks. I do who not want the neutral box. Yeah yeah either want okay so nora. Ken Ken. She leica Debbie be winner. Ken Ken she pull it together and make a run here or is she destined to be a conic pre merge character Shannon. What is Debbie's run being early merged like. Is that a run in we're on. She has said like if she's making it to the merge. She's going the final tribal council. She's being picked by the immunity when a not to go to file seems pretty set in store and so you know it's his do the next few days will decide site for Nora but I'm just so intrigued by that relationship with Jason. I think he could help us through because the only thing that has in common is that both outside is which is so so compelling failing like these are two people. She says it he's like her ex boyfriend. I cannot imagine them. Dating at all would have gone like he's. He's a straight man like he's like the nurse not held Jewish lawyer. I love Jason because I have a brother who is not pels. Jewish lawyer named Jason so extremist entity for him and I just think the fact that the fact that this doesn't these people should not connect but they just on the this is what's allowed Shannon. I don't think they would in this case. I think it's just like that's only had and they really feel like indebted to. I just love their relationship so we talked a little bit about how nora doesn't fit in. She talked about at this at tribal council about her real life struggle. I also don't like to stick in. Honestly I just like she sticks out does not does not like the stick and Nora nor has a lot of fun turns of phrases insist that is it's a two-year Tara sympathetic nervous system okay. I Really WanNa know what that is. We know that I know but not not sticking in. That's not what that's not. How you stimulate the parasite ZIP athetic nervous system that is that's the one thing we do know from Nora's Yoga Class Shannon so I really wanted to to ask you about how we have this the island of the idols this season and as someone who has watched all this international survivor survivor that you you've seen this sim- similar ghost island looked lab. I'M GONNA try to say a Spin Offs Ghost Island spinoffs. Let's use that word in different international seasons. How do you rate island of the idols compared to us some of the other different versions of an island where you get advantages that you've seen around the world will Robin Sandra any it's just surgically nothing is going to be funnier and more ridiculous than the fact that they're doing this. I'll let you in like so uncomfortable about the fact that they're living on the island. Why is this necessary when that scene of them waking up with a bamboo I was like why why are they doing this. I I want them to be living in a hotel. I mean there's no transparency about what's happening and I getting food like do. They have re material. They must hate each other. There's no one thirty nine days and I think you're onto something. I do think that Robin Sandra Sandra are starting to get sick of each other. You mentioned that there's a scene where they're like. I in physical agony from sleeping on the bamboo embu but I also do think that Robin Sandra are starting to get on each other's nerves here is a quick from from the whole sequence with when Kelly showed up when they're going through everything and we'll talk more about that later Sandra's talking about her dogs and I think vic that rob has heard this one before okay so I have four dogs Pomeranian story every the theory yes sir. My theory is like why did Boston negotiate so terribly in this episode search like Kelly was just for one second like I dunno and he was like all right. I'll give you the Idaho Long Guy Your answer three questions like he folded so quickly and she wasn't even attempting to negotiate and and that's because this meant more to Boston robbed into Kelly right like if Kelly goes back without playing the game really like no harm no foul but if she goes back Boston and Robin like left with Sandra he doesn't have you know another thing to do and he's so bored like no wonder like a few episodes he's going to be just please stay here. Talk to me. I will give you Tyler Perry idol. They're sick of each other that the third person who shows up as a buffer and makes it not as awkward so you're saying that for rob that he just just can't let her just go back to the beach. I was going to say that then the segment is a bust this week so I think that if you show up on a future season and Robin Sandra there. It's like you know what I'm not playing any games. I'll give you whatever you want. You just got to play the game I can't we can't have this be ten minutes of dead air right now like Nah Nah. I don't think I wanNA play anything with your come on man. This is my this is my ten minutes in the show. You're killing me I don't think so. I think I'm just GONNA go over here and take a looks like a nice time for mid midday nap. I think come on I'll give you. What do you want seven idols on making me look bad kid like I didn't just hang out with three days just for you to go back to camp like I'm living out here here. You better play the game but I think that it does speak to something. You're touching on something. That's really important which is that Robin. Sandra had been presented to the players like mental is right. Yes they're not mental is like the producers. They're not trying to help the play. They're trying to make the best TV show. I think this is why the contestants are going back lying. I don't think that they've been forced to live because that's a tricky area. How do you police that so if they accidentally let it slip to an ally. What do they lose prize money. How would you believe that behavior but I do think that after the challenges Robin Sandra very much like so what are you gonNa tell not like all you're going to tell ally and then the person's like and they let you want help with the lie and that poses just so overwhelmed with gratitude for the help and then they take the help and they make up the like they don't WanNa WanNa say to Boston Robin Sandra obsessively trying to help them right like that's what they've been told. Actually I think I shouldn't like they're not gonNA come up against them strategically if they're telling at its best ally so I think that's why the contestants are confused because they think dead mentors producers. Let's hear what Scott has to say about this and then Let's talk a little bit more about lie. Hey Robin Shannon. This is Koch Chernoff calling big Fan. Both I've got a question. Do we think think that the fact that both Elizabeth and Kelly came back to their camps with the same story about what happened in Ireland of the idols is a coincidence or do we think that perhaps they discuss this with Lavin Sandra and that Robin in Sandra coached them to both have the same story whether or not they told them that they coach the other about the same story. I don't know no but do we think that perhaps this story of hitting the earn and not being able to play comes from their own minds or from from the idols. Thank you so much. I'll take my answer off the air. Thank you Scott so you don't think that Robin Sandra are giving people suggestions in terms of what to say when they go back to the tribe they are like. I think that's why people align because is Robin Sandra saying as mentors. This is the best thing Theo game you should tell them that they were and which isn't even back right ally like you have all the time in the world out there. I'm with you just came up with smashing earns would've taken you five seconds like what are you doing the rest of your time. I definitely think so. I'm confused about who to to give credit to for everything because I'm sure we'll talk about Kelly's hair idol who came up with that was it hurls Sandra because I want to know who to credit kizzie points to yeah so I think somebody is telling them. They can't say anything about this. Because it seems like the easiest thing to do would would be just tell the truth and nobody would be mad at them like what what you got sucks. Robbins Sandra like it was like Oh wait till you out because he's talked Robin Sandra. I just think that they're being Jedi. Mind tricks like the way that we saw what Boston rob and Sandra did to Elizabeth last week making her play the challenge when she obviously shouldn't have I think that's what they're doing. It's just the power of suggestion. It's very much just like what are you going to tell rather than. Do you want to lie to your tribe mates and because they're taking all this advice from them. They just get in the mindset of like okay yeah. I'm going to lie. Obviously I think it would take one. One newbie coming up against two of the best players in the world were meant to be helping them and saying wouldn't it be better not to lie and to like come against them strategically for them to be. I guess you don't have to lie. I just don't see that happening because that would take a lot of balls for a Newbie to that Shannon Elizabeth have come back to the tribe. I been like a broken down. Leonardo's Sandra bullied to make fire making posted Robin. I loved my phone not so so bad for you and she can't make fire. Let's keep her around like advantage to live or the truth exactly what happened. One hundred hundred percent she should've been like highs. I went and did it by challenge against Boston. Rob and they would have been like what why would you do that. He played like one hundred the seventeen days of something and she'd be like yeah. I'm that bad at this game. You should keep me around to the truth didn't pulse toby to keep her around and make a final three deal with Elizabeth she can't she can't make the fire yeah. I don't know she makes the wrong decisions like that whole exchange what sold island of the items to me so savage avid he even said to her you was like your vote is really important in the tribal and she was like yeah might as well and then after she lost lost the challenge he was like now. You don't have a vote the deal so yeah so you see them more or less as a a mentor that they are a tool of production to hurt the players. You think that maybe it's a bad thing to go to the idols yeah well. I mean I don't the trying to help the players. I just think they're trying to make what is the best show every decision they've made so far has been to the best show to keep the. I think that heavily influencing them to keep the secret that makes for a better TV TV product but it's not a better strategic move so I just think that yeah if it aligns to hope the play is the better show that's what they'll do but if it hurts the players which they've done multiple all times and they'll do that they mentioned that the very bad mental as a real mental would be like Elizabeth. You should not make this fire. You'll lose stom- all I go back and tell them the truth truth. Someone's coming here in three days so easily found out so tad mentors to good point so you're saying that sort of like the bully came name took Elizabeth's lunch money and then said Hey. Here's your lesson like Don't don't carry your wallet new of a back pocket. You know it's like did she ended up losing and it's like this was like tough love. Boston robe-like held Elizabeth's face on the toilet. This is tough love this to go back to the international versions versus this can you just explain the the way that they've done this type of thing on some of the international versions people were just familiar with the US version of survivor Shannon. Yes there are these giant Dan statues. No no one else is stashed. This is only the US by the way can make jaide busts of two of the people from they national is not so high on ourselves to do that but got a couple of the come to mind is the outflow from survive in New Zealand and recently island of secrets in Saliva South Africa and they were really fun ways that I don't. I think this is doing this is hilarious entertaining because Boston Ruben Sandra ought to vary entertain people and you know it's complicated with what they're trying to do out there so it's fine but every other the decision they're making. I think they could take a lot more from international. I think that you know island of the idol is doing the simplest most boring saying in every single aspect that is including being Robin Sandra on the island he names out of a bag why like with the outpost the tribes themselves elected members and that really interesting 'cause Mike and I talk about in South Africa all the time but like definitely give the people in the in the cost the opportunity to decide the game. That's always inherently more interesting than people started like okay. We'll pick sticks. Expedient people started reading the stakes like it was fascinating to watch this happen and violent of secrets on the winners of the challenge the challenge or immunity which who went there inherently more more interesting. I'm having a couple of people go which was always true. The outpost and sometimes violent secrets I think is way more interesting and voices are seems way way more diverse like there was no set context what there's islands with doing other than giving you some sort of power or transfer opportunity in the game who had made paranoia the sky high. You didn't know anything that was happening out there so people could come up with really creative lies with me. This is like a little bit too consistent people once you once it's out it will go to know what's happening. You have a choice to play against to do a test and the fact that there's a choice means that anyone can come back in a week. They just be like chose not to play people now. It's just a little little bit to me like it's the most boring choices could make like imagine this it's the tribes choosing and someone each from each try to people meeting there on island of the idols as they meet Boston Robin Sandra and it was just I'm interested to see where it goes but like that more diversity more interesting strategic choices from production. I have to think that we're to a point this season where multiple people are going to go to the island of the idols and maybe they'll have like some sort of a dual where they'll like. Sandra will coach up one person and rob will coach up the other person and then they'll have some sort of a battle for an advantage and that'll be so great because of rob and Sandra's like growing hatred or John was going to be like eggs on is it's GonNa be like Sandra. I'm coming for you. You know we hated who's going to win. Yes I could definitely see that happening later on in the season yeah. I I think that the repulsively they'll be some sort of a reveal that Robin Sandra Arthur tribal councils right yeah. I'm concerned about this really concerned. I I love it. When I will boxes amazing. I just don't want them at final tribal pudding giving their opinion as mentors but their productions they'll be you know so the objective in its best choice for the winter and people will listen to that because I meant to be mentors and I really hope they have avoided the final drive with counselors lose. My concerns have been pointed out on twitter that if you fold the host of the idol's like they didn't have extinction. It's very much like we've worked. We can play. Hey we can win a million dollars. I don't think they're doing that but now you know it's interesting because I heard people speculate well. Do you think that Robin Sandra will vote at the final tribal council and it does say in the of the idols we don't vote and is wondering would that I hoped. I don't think that they would do the folding thing deary. A Lotta Trust left in the show that you know when to hold them no one to fold This was a time that we needed to fold them. He's definitely say that an episode thirteen when they come to win them and come in the game fell with like a lesson no one to hold them know involve them the idols and then just yeah so I I B uh I don't know yeah. I guess I'd say that they shouldn't like. I had a vote in terms of who should win. I don't know if I'd that would bother me as much as if they were like sort of like being like the foreperson of leading the final tribal council sort of like where Dr will and I know this is somebody that you that's my personal physician. Dr Okay Call Rookie contract so he hosts like jury roundtable on Big Brother and ask people about that and nobody. Nobody knows it's like hey. It's not fair to why. Dr Will Talk to the jury before before they go and vote. They're they're the jury so. I wonder if we saw aw something like something like that but I like them. Questioning the jury I think is I would not like that. I guess kind of sitting around and talking to the jury wouldn't be as bad I. I don't want that final tribal council because I feel like that's too much influence and to have a voice. I think I would really not like because the whole beauty of the game right is been on a jury before. What did they know anything about being on a jury you teach us how to be on a jury thing. Yeah I just like. It's not fun to us. People could just give like a mock out of ten judges and people who have been voted out like that's the complexity of the gain that makes it a terminal and intriguing twenty years is that you have to get avoids people who voted out not like you members of production which is really also in like that okay all right. Janet before we get back to talking about this week. Let me take a moment and thank our sponsors here today. 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The difficulties of the tasks are the Games that way. There's all these ridiculously hard tasks like fire making against Rob and knowing it's an advantage but sometimes there's an easy task by the when we signed this episode to so some advantages are introduced to kind of varying difficulty in order to strike a balance or is it just a Robin Sandra to do whatever I mean or any thoughts you Shannon China. What do you think about this. Do you think that there intentionally okay. We definitely want this idol to be out there so let's make this really easy game for this person into win. If you will ask what branch of the Army Sandra's husband his in while she was an army hat what branch of the military there was so many this was such an easy challenge that I don't intentionally doing that but this was like so lopsided I mean making against Boston Rog like almost one hundred percent losing that listening to people residing by very basic facts about their lives like this is a cold take Veasley but what am I know Brian. Kelly could've come in without even hearing the story and I think she could have got three of these questions right yeah. She could have guessed like county. Children's Sandra have like true is the most decibel on even if you know Sandra and literally wearing the army hat the question about the dog I mean you would necessarily know the name of dog but she still had to mow goes at it. What was the next question like where is rob from what in what popular reality TV show did Sandra and I both appear on and have one yeah exactly how many times Sandra one survivor like how easy where these questions are going to be yeah so that was fun but I love the whole montage of Robin Sandra there were there were so many gems that I was uh-huh Watch going through it. I loved it so much. I play for you some of my some of my favorite parts of all of this so so first off we saw Kelly get to the island of the idols and she had a theory about what might be on the island of the idols. Take Air Bunch of idols and clues on the island. Maybe not as much as creepy and Cochran were once a reward for the aforementioned Debbie so it all comes with Debbie but game changing by the way like right now going on survivor. You always have to expect Cochran. Pop Out of the Bushes think that's a very real and true thing that could happen. Yeah I ironically that was the the episode where Sandra got voted out in survivor. Game Changers no wonder she was salty about name groping because Kelly brings up up cartons Sandra all business Kellyanne Conway better okay. Yeah I can see Concord's face. I've seen it at every reunion when they talked to him. I know what he's looking like on his cash. When they mentioned that is exactly the same space okay so we we saw there was we well we welcome in? Kelly and she's talking a little bit about her her background and where where she went to college and she tells them for Undergrad off just a loved the rob's reactions smarty pants and later Robert so she says she's going to Harvard and warden so I looked up water and things like Carrillo Good School Pot of Upn v League and then later Boston rubs like she's really smart. She went to Harvard. It's an warded. My wife is so down on you then. He doesn't even include that yeah. He's like just hotted well. He knew about Harvard because boss has been to parties their Jeffy. You thought he's doing an impression of him. Well that's the now we're getting very Meta. So what do you think went on. Those Harvard parties that Boston Rob went to yeah. I mean this thing. I was literally there Shannon at the Harvard parties Bush's yes chatting. There's a point where they're asking asking some questions for Kelly about her her back story you know there's a little back and forth so they WanNa know about Kelly's Kelly's status here. We've been named for three years. which is an brought to you like the boss? He's he's a little disapproving of the name Brock. I think Boston Robin Zander became my parents and what what what are what is intended to do for a living. You gotTa have it just. Wouldn't you know so. I thought that rob seems a little down on John Brock. We've been named for three years rock but then we have this other clip which is is a real. I think some of the best stuff and it's a short. It's a short clip. There's a lot in here of Robin Sandra's question. It's actually very reminiscent of Christian during the immunity challenge just endless. What does she calls and she says he calls Gerald Traveling Jazz Legends Yeah Yeah like Damn people would pay for this unity yeah. Do you have your Reuben Sandwich but this is the the best part. Have you made. I've always wanted a chiropractor all right. Let's take that piece by piece. You May ROB LOVES COCONUT POPCORN THAT WE KNOW from survivor redemption island. That rob wants the crispy rice coconut popcorn. We know everything that rob likes to eat on survivor so he's he's into that yeah. I mean he's just stopping. That's what he's talking about food because they're on the island in order to hotel like they should be now. Sandra S A question here rocket yeah. How did you meet Ross. I think he's at Brock I think she says how did you meet Ross friend. Front Brook don't even introduced of Brock only been introduced to brock but I think Sandra's has. How did you Ross Ross. I think Sandra wasn't listening to to Kelly listen. I hear Brokaw aw I'm here Bro. I think that Sandra her Ross. I think she said Brock. I go back what you what the closed captions yeah the closed captions of famously correct on this stuff it would be funny if it was like a listening challenge and Sandra myth her I think the whole time and it was like to correct okay stanfield was legit legit yeah so do you guys have a frying pan. I don't know why that was particularly interesting and are are chiropractors legit Shannon Shannon. This is what you have on day six of living with Sandra with nothing to do slowly losing their minds well the Chiropractor practiser question. I think ends up when you go back to that secret scene where you watch Robin Sandra about sleeping on the bamboo you. I think that Bob is having a chiropractor fantasy like the same way you have like food fantasies like when I get back to the airport I'm GonNa like. Is it like when I get home. I'm I'M GONNA go to every chiropractor in my town. You solve the mystery so impressive like this was a complete contest. Context lists eight men have always wanted. I tire practice then you saw the authors of them on the bamboo and you'll like lightbulb yeah together amazing. I might be okay that was fun. Robbins Andro you don't think they didn't make him out that day. Thirty nine in a straitjacket maddening they might tap out before we get the day thirty nine the quit this Nejib extinction right and the whole thing about that was quitting. Why isn't there a white sail in the statue something because at least extinction like new people coming coming in dynamics like it just living there one person comes every couple of days. Maybe plays a game not even a definite you go to offer them a lot of stuff off and you go to tribal council to sit in this tiny box. There's no room for both elbows. I'd like an economy class and there'd be a third person in the middle seat. Yes it's like the one thing I've ever seen grander the tiny tribal books nothing to do that eggs away. Santer described described in that scene where they wake up on the bamboo. She's like yes just the United States voting strategy live in Boston raw black. They're gonNA go insane either one question on the planet that you could do that with the nine days and not despise and told my fiance if I did that with him I would hate it. Yeah maybe Josh wigger. I think would be a you know ver- very fun to spend that much time with. I don't think anybody gets annoyed with him. He's fair like I just think. I don't think there's a human being on the planet in it that I would still enjoy after thirty nine days of living with them. It would be tough I think it needs to be more than a best friend type. A pin a Robinson how well do they know each other. I mean they've really ain't now very well now but I mean they were together for. What a fifteen days in ten years ago yeah now no keith fats like Sandra has two kids. He's like yeah yeah and and they're they're over it. They're over it already. What would happen if one of them wanted to leave. One of them was like you look Jeff. I can't do this anymore. Would we see that would that be on the show. I WANNA watch that that that feels true to what would be happening like I agree like was mentioned are not like they should be living in. The statues should have made the statues into houses and then they live. They're like little next door neighbors. They get some China away from each other like every night. It's like a Nice Sandra Knight Rob and then they walk into the little statue now living statues. That's what I WANNA see a whole village of uh-huh giant giant giant head hots. That'd be good yeah living your head rent-free. Yeah I think so so we get to the quiz and we hear Kelly's reaction to await. There's going to be a quiz now. Some some panic question is have you been listening to us not really the lease yeah her when she was very muted panic. It was just like a lot of God God odd yeah not really yeah so they convince her though she holds out long enough and then she ultimately is going to tell Robinson she's on board. You can win right Let's play Jazz. You ever use yellow. No no never as a millennial then you'll I can't do it. Ironically I would be that person I mean Kelly went to Harvard and water and like she shouldn't be using your low. He's GonNa be using a term parity. Heidi by the lonely island like less b-battle. Do you see that Sandra is really trying to peer pressure her here into like AK- come on. Let's play it can be very persuasive. Please play the game you want. You don't want everybody to think you're you're scared to play right. Come mud yeah what would rusting would be disappointed in you. Shamed Ross would go on a break from you. Arabi exactly yeah okay all right Shannon. Let's let's talk about something else that we haven't talked about much in terms of season thirty nine and it's a little bit of a Meta thing outside of the show. Let me play this this voicemail for you. This one is from Diana. here's his voice mail from Diana. Hey Robin Shannon. It's Diana from Miami wanted to know your thoughts about the mild spoilers this season we've seen who's going to island about idols as well as which tribe is going to travel council during the commercial break as as well as on the survivor. Instagram Jeff expressed his disapproval on twitter but I wanted to know what you to think thanks so Shannon did did you when you watch the episodes and you're watching in Australia and so it's not the same experiences people that are watching live in the US were you. You got any of the promos that show what's coming up next on survivor. This has been the first year. I've been watching live because because someone told me how to do it and I was like you know what I meant to be at work but I'm GonNa done. I've known from my work is listening to this. I haven't punching live. Luckily I haven't been swallowed I'm going to say something you know in Australia. Saliva a lot of people might not know this but they accidentally on TV before an episode played the wrong ad for the next night at the side and and the ad was about who went home like in thirty minutes so that's a Lotta people so it could be way worse. Look just yes tweeting tweeting about it to. CBS is really cringe for me like on CBS boss like if I had a problem with the podcast you being my boss you appreciate if I took it to twitter right so this is very very interesting so let me give you the Jeff probst tweets from this week and Jeff took to twitter jeff used to live tweet. The show used to be a super active on twitter but not super active anymore in regards to the Shell and Jeff went on twitter and said well. It's he said those. Are you frustrated by the survivor spoilers and the promos. I have to admit I to find it mind numbing and it pains me to have to join in your complaints plaints against at survivor. CBS But I am this spite being on the air twenty years we still have not earned the right to approve our own promo spots spots the purpose of a promos entice you to watch without giving away what it is. We want you to watch. We have no say in that. I encourage you to continue complaining leaning in the hopes they will finally submit but spoilers notwithstanding tonight's survivor episodes great superfund enjoy and people were standing jeff probst and Shannon this to me where Jeff is always being dragged on social media by the survivor fans. This was when when Jeff then went after like took the whig of the network people were like we we'd like a sleigh King Jeff. We love you yeah. I mean I need to a more evidence. Suggests actively trying to get fired. What who why is he tweeting to. CBS Direct Line Jillian ways days yeah this is wild. This was wild that could think of a season forty one of survivor jeff versus. CBS CBS Dr Bob Abessola all the CBS stars Young Sheldon and and then like a Jeff probst tribe of all of Jeff's favorites. I'm really loving the CBS as by the way that I'm watching it live. I definitely think that would be a really good. Try If you'd have jeff on his time with cocker puffing out of the Bush's I want the jets Dr who also be Jeff drives on the author of and Sandra Sandra Yeah Rob Robin Sandra now also get out the name of all the like last name people that would be on the Jeff tribe and you know the all stars will be the cross promotion would be there. I think who says no yeah I mean the via you usually like battle. This BS reality shows like they differ. mazing race is very different. This'll be fictional. Characters versus just favorite survivors all the actors taking the fictional characters or the show. I mean let's be real you kick it fictional characters on survivor all right. Let's they're going to be like in method fit acting yeah. That's what I want acting yeah. I don't know if Patricia Heaton is going to be in character as Carol Second Act. I got the job because I'm watching the ADS now. You love got talking about this with you because you love ads yes. I'm really enjoying the CBS ads. I think that all of the people from the ADS would be great on the show. There's a new show and it's all about the whole survivor thing no no yes. The Unicorn is a new show and it stars the actor is Walton Gog ins. I don't know his name next season when he was the star of that season planning so yes that's the that's the show Walton Goggin justified fame a he is a guy who is sort of like a drama. He's out there trying to date and and so yes this is perfect this is such a great tie in for our Jeff versus. CBS season coming up because it's a great question of of we we know that Walton coggins versus Boston. Rob Might be at the forefront of new season based on a clip that was circulated this week of CB. This is a I guess CBS synergy happening where Boston didn't rob was talked about on the new show the Unicorn starring Walton Gog INS and so Shannon. Let's let's see if we can figure out what what is what is happening here. See walked away from my friend said. Do you know who that is. That was Boston Rob. Okay so what we're watching here and this was circulated across social media and this was sent out by the survivor twitter account out and I don't really even understand what they're saying here. The tweet was from CBS. When you have friends who don't watch survivor you make them watch survivor where with Rob Cordery. How do you not know who at Boston. Rob Mariano is streamed the Unicorn now on CBS DOT COM and catch new episodes Thursdays at eight thirty and then the survivor twitter account tweeted. We agree with this strategy. I don't know what what's the strategy. Did you make them if the make people watch survivor. That's the strategy yeah. I'm not letting this dynamic between the twitter accounts so yeah. There's a left to set up and I still don't even understand what's happening. A woman is telling Walton Geoghegan's Carter. She literally saw Boston Rod. Did she go to the island of the idols and see walked away and I said do you know who that is. It was Boston Round Boston. No I have no idea ooh that this guy from survivor survivor. Didn't she just say that. Her friends had to tell her was. Why is she shading Walton Goggles. The heat doesn't know she. She literally did not know who was her friend that her friends told her and now she's getting on him. See walked away my friend said. Do you know who that is. It was Boston rob you. I don't know I have no idea that this guy from survivor survivor. Oh I love the tiger from Boston. Oh no the survivor that television show. It's been on for like fifteen years in like twenty yeah. You know super casual. I don't have half television down in my case. Oh that was a joke. I don't really live in a cave and that was not what a funny joke about living in Cape. All right now okay cut to next day Walton Goggin talking with Rob Cordery and another guy like on a soccer soccer field. I've never heard of Boston Ron. Thank you very very much seriously. It was on survivor survivor all stars survivor. Redemption Island survivor heroes vs villains. He literally survivor hero versus villains. I also noticed it. We've never seen any of the survivor's fools survivor marquesses. Oh Yes yes in that. One wasn't that great. We see we know survivors okay. If you were watching the show the Unicorn you have to be more confused than people. You just found this clip on twitter like what what what are they talking about. And where is this going rob you but no one watching the show the Unicorn yes and if anything if you were going to take somebody from CBS reality and put them on the Unicorn there is a woman from big brother named Anthony which would make a lot more sense to be on. This show called the Unicorn then Boston Rob Marietta but I am yes. I mean it's not so much of a joke this searle on big brother. She really likes UNICORNS but that being said Shannon just wanted to incorporate all of the the synergy energy. I know you love talking about the commercials of survivor as much as the show I resent everything about the scene so much because the goal on the date is shown to be she's crazy right like when he tells that bad joke and she lost like she's meant to be mad and erotic not citing with her the she shown to be crazy over the top because he has not through Boston Robbins when it's pointed out to her and incorrectly can cite that survives on the fifteen years like this girl's a super casual Susan yes she makes with like you're meant to be looking down at her because she knows so much about survival. What a nerd but she barely knows anything about the show yeah she's like? I don't understand character because I don't have to date. I've been with my fiance for the six years of getting married. I'll never have today. If I was on a date. I would be like exciting. Ella survive as tax write and then everyone was down on me but this goes being down on because she knows like incorrectly most basic cultural facts like why. Why are we looking down on hurt so unfair yeah. I don't know how somebody has to watch the Unicorn for us to tell us what happened with this woman did. She turn out to be a crazy person. Did she dump Walton Goggin because he didn't know WHO BOSTON ROB is. Does she know who's Sandra is. Where did she meet Boston. Rob So in there sure. I guess we have to tune into the Unicorn. This is how they can get. US survived for watchers rob. I've done a lot for this podcast and things for I watched the Unicorn on that being said we started all of this on Jeff pro-peace coming for CBS people than sending in in all of their complaints to CBS and Jeff probst. I guess ultimately ended up working. He said well it certainly wasn't my most gracious moment but our alliance accomplished its goal thanks to the passion of our fans and our great twenty year partnership with CBS tonight women just the the Promo issue has been solved sweep moving forward with the rest of the killer Season of survivor has jeff opened up a can of worms here where that is is. He like the ultimate like populist leader of the survivor fandom now where that whatever whatever that he wants to have happened if we can just get the fans motivated to then come for CBS. They'll make it happen is telling me that if I have a problem with the show as she tweeted him incessantly. That's only because it works you know. I think that when CBS sold this tweet it'll probably like Jeff. We're putting shows like the Unicorn and Carol Second Act. We have enough problems problems to deal with. We're not dealing with this. You can have whatever you want. Hey we're trying to deal with our content so interesting. It's interesting yeah yeah okay. Let's out a lot of audit. I mean come on you. GotTa give it a chance if you watched the neighborhood no it. I just think that you probably you you. Just don't get it because it's our American humor. That was more of a cell phone. You just have to be here to get to get all the jokes shout and that's stay. I'll Santos failure. That's the Game Xining. I'm on the right side of this. I think you'll brainwash thinking this is good content. I don't WanNA trash. CBS Like I'm not Jack Yeah Okay Shannon Shannon. Let's take a question from Elizabeth in Denver. she has a question that is just for you. It's not Elizabeth is a bit from survivor. It's Elizabeth in Denver. Hi Robin Chan it's Elizabeth in Denver she and a half to know who gets tizzy points this week and are there. Any advisers are other noticeable hats. That would be the reward for winning being heavy. Vesey then saying Okay Janet. Could you give us the back story on the chizzy points. I didn't come up with it. I don't someone with any good ideas. Who did you guys know so by so I was going to like the fishy but I made it the chizzy. I don't WanNa name enough to myself. It was survive in New Zealand. The host matches him over the cheesy and then in the first recap. I did with the Great Zenon Henry Scranton Saliva. Yes I offer his chizzy another another yoga master yes and also seen badly. You're right saliva hates yoga re yeah so. I asked him who would get his Z. Fishy and he answered by saying this person would get three points. The second person would get points and the dog would get one point which is how we rank things like in Scorpio like an AFL rugby. That's how they do. There was at the end of the year. The UMPIRES gives three to one point to the three best players the game wow on the air. I was like that's brilliant and and I'm stealing it and I have ever since every show that I do and you know give out choosy points and then we have a leaderboard of we see who the best player is of the season mathematically semantically and I think the perfect system and now has a theme song like it's really growing on my no. One remembers handed that mad about that. I really think that in hindsight that Henry who made up that he was a yoga instructor I feel like that maybe not not the right way to go considering that survivor really seems to paint yoga and Yoga instructors in a negative light and it wasn't the right way to go reasons he he like crazy people okay so shannon. Do you have chizzy points to award for this week. No ideal oh I'm happy to do. I've got three points for Lawrence. I think she was the best player of the episode and I loved her approach. That was a really big thing for me like like we saw that the three Jamal Jack and molly we very much telling people what to do. She goes suggested and she's like. What do you think about molly? People come to our in conclusion. She totally gets credit credit for the move loved it for her and the exit interview wally said that she was closely with Janet Kelly so it seemed like it was a good social Mussa to to Chelsea Chelsea the five minute period for Chelsea to make the fire denied all those things that a key to winning modern. US Saliva. She did both in five minutes amazing and you want to Kelly L. E. Like I'm a bit you know. She shouldn't have lied but I get that she's being duped by Robin Sandra out of their boredom and production necessities the hair. I was just like it has to get a point. Give her a point yeah. Can you comment a little bit more about the hair idle Shannon that we got some questions comparing it to some some of the idol title hiding that we've seen on some of the international editions where where does it rank for you. This is the best thing I've ever seen. I I mean I right for a hand magazine. That's my nine to five right. I write about hair every day no idea yeah that'd be writing articles about the best idol hairstyles because I might it's an audience who would care about that. This is amazing. I mean for anyone who has long hair. The fact that hair could like hold the weight of the idol unbelievable she yeah. Oh my God 'cause this is one idol flowing out of your hair away from it being the best thing you've ever seen into the most embarrassing moment in the show's history right. Can you imagine if she's like. I was just so paranoid that you got. The idol falls out of a hair yeah. What did they have been in Australia survivor last year yes yes someone put the idleness shots and it came out so we voted the idle because it was like approved it. I'm highbrow stuffiness. SCALEA and it was super embarrassing. That's what I was thinking of. Also in this even restraint and survivor I wouldn't give spoilers but there was a woman who got an idol and have to come back to camp and didn't have any pockets to put it in so that was the week you on the podcast rob actually like rap didn't close aim was just holding it in her hand and you called it a lady. Lady Bulge purse this then did it again the next week like there were two lady votes passes in a season which is incredible content and it was so bad and it didn't work either time doc and at the time we were told on twitter by Von. Ah You should've put it in a hair and like this was manifested incredible. Stop so would you recommend to a woman who is going through casting testing to grow her hair out as long as possible and maybe would you suggest like taking like boss supplements like biotech inner not bio strath to try to get your hair strongest possible yes because the thing is like women don't find as many idols via in fact bold. Men are like the main demographic finding idle Italy. We win yeah. Yeah I know you. We have invited so yeah hiding it in in your hair and so should you incorporate. If you're a woman should you go to survivor with sort of like the pony tail. Look as opposed to like you wear your hair down all the time or Lincoln differ away and then also hold on. Why do you have your hair in a ponytail. That's weird yeah. Do you think that's a really good strategy. She had an abundance of other any other types of cells. Web wanted hide an idol. You what life what do. I know you could maybe braided in Bonn was best and she was already wearing one. This is just this is game changing strategy right March Simpson. I feel like often put things into her beehive. I feel like that might be be a good way to go. You have a whole bag of tricks in Washington. That's such a good thing. It's it's going to be on the CBS tribe she. She's going to cause some damage. That's on Fox. I don't know what all right let you mentioned Chelsea and she had a great episode. We saw all her did. She find the idol but you also got the fire started but Shannon. I could not notice that she says the word started in a very weird way. Play this for you yeah. I was weird that she turn would be made into his sound clips. We can overanalyze it turned into like two words. I don't know if she lose it chessy point for that the Bossio trying to stop denigrating the decorating. It's not auditory the criteria. You know that it's not I don't she may she got to. JC points. You don't give the language here. I'm sorry that I started and trump says it really weird gone avoided latest Chelsea. It's so hard to survive a player in nineteen thousand content. If you say something a little bit weird we will find it Chelsea by the way gotTa Lotta Shows Shannon. We also had our challenge this week and in addition to individual immunity the survivors were playing for a very exciting reward that they you're playing for Spices Shannon Yeah Day six. Why don't they want like fishing gear yeah. They get fish spices his let's play it may spicing though they don't have any in fee. I don't know it was a very underwhelming your well-meaning reward but I wonder what was it so underwhelming that Jeff probst himself knew that it was underwhelming welcoming and was trying to really build this up for people I you're GonNa hear Dan and then Jeff's reaction to the spicy clearly worth plant so there's a few parts of that I love. Dan Says the spices have gotten him on fire. The one thing we've learned from does not take much to get get Dan going here on survivor survivor. He's a he's on fire already from from the spices that when I heard Jeffs Jeff's wow now I audibly laugh out loud when I heard you the yet he's amazing. They're so excited about this. These people are dying. What was he doing their reaction to the spice that you should well well. I didn't think there would be any any reaction at all. I guess it's clearly worth playing for well well. This is a terrible reward. You guys have very far in the whole. This is our our easily amused. Well not take much it. You guys know this right yeah. I'm conscious. Spices is the worst REWA. I've gotten some some pushback on this because I've said this many times over the years spices is terrible and not worth playing for but now some survivors swear by no no changes when you have spices and you can put it on the rice. It's amazing but who cares yeah. I mean I haven't played but it does. I seem really bad. I mean surely you go fishing fishing constant spices right like that's the order you know what the best spice is. Shannon human human one the second-best spice the second best spice is hunger. Whatever you're eating if it doesn't taste good get hungrier and genuinely thought you're making human jerk. I wasn't humid is good but that's for these fancy pants city folk. The best spice is hunger because if it doesn't taste good go longer without eating so Dharavi Sandra gas prices because they don't have the opportunity to win. Win Rewards being fed what where like what is happening with them. We don't know Boston did seem very invested in the frying pan. Try Listening to you. We're GONNA send you about you. Come back here with all the cooking thank supplies and the cumin from your popcorn I wanted to I will say that I did see there error chickens on the island with Robert Sandra in in one of the secrets that I saw where Robin Sandra are hanging out like waking up their chickens around so I guess the Boston doesn't have to go and chase after the chickens like he did more cases that they have them. I I guess chickens to E. nazi-era proof like they could just be given sandwiches. They don't need to have live chickens there. Yeah I guess so. We are why why do Robin Sandra have to deal with the survival elements like really would make me feel better that they're not coming into the game if they were just like we we got a mini fridge. We yeah we we got to take like a Dharma. Initiative stuff being dropped opt into the island should not be bothering the tribes frying. Pan A sad state of affairs for Open Sandra. Them says the Fares Affairs also speaking of Jeff. There was a moment at the tribal council where everybody came in. I got to see Robin Urban Sandra's sneak inch and did you like that Robin Sandra sneaking onto the premises. I love every single tiny tribal box. It is ridiculous breath every every single by but is it just so. We see them like it's like Oh. There's some danger of. Shouldn't they be loaded in before the survivors get there. We need to see them walking in because otherwise mean you'll be concerned have been there for the whole day. They have air like I'm concerned for them. Do Do you think that that was just show us that how they get in there or do you think it was like sorry a busy shuttle. Sandals Daniel is going on about dogs and we were so we lost track of time sneaking into a comedian and they didn't call you out there like trying to get in five minutes late like what did we miss all right. He was gonNA blow. It was timed perfectly shadow where they had to like all right. Turn around and get your torch and then that's when Robin Sandra snuck in yeah because they're so did they get off on the thrill of sneaking incident. Maybe someone will catch them like they could be in ten minutes earlier but then like that's another boring part of their day because is exciting thing that happens in and is that someone might be like that Boston raw and it'll be like who's Boston Rob and women's friend from the Unicorn yes but I I didn't even know who it was until my friend told me like oh you mean the guy from the band survivor. Yeah I've tiger yeah. I know that no think of the band survivable the show. That's completely unreasonable. The Unicorn seem so bad. I just can't get may well. We need to know more of the details like I don't know what Walton in Goggin character is is a shut in that. He doesn't know he he may be was he frozen in ice and then he a why is he be a Unicorn. I don't really understand what what the premise of the shows anyway so that there is a a quiz another quiz that goes on trial counsel and this time. It's GonNa be for Jamal who is going to get called on in class of what how does Tribal Council Work Doc. Here's Jeff calling on Jamal part of the ritual travel council in this game fire represents your life and your fires GonNa. I'm so glad you pulled that. That was my favorite part of the whole episode. How did Jamal get the test right because I I think that Jamal could've played this better shannon that okay if this was was me instead of Jamal part of the ritual travel council in this game represents your life your fires gone saying Jamal say I'm sorry when fire is gone extinction doing the season bed bath and beyond. I don't know I really I don't know what happens next. I've really I'm very embarrassed. I I really don't know what happens here. Yeah what Jeff was doing here. What what is he doing well. The first thing is like you guys have been saying is jeff retiring in phoning it in there's no reward challenge number ruining awesome Robert Sandra that who was taking over. Maybe maybe he's auditioning this season's contestants ou re week Jamal sales because he was so on and he was like silly you. Why aren't you telling telling neither the host. I I play survival day. You tell me what happens when fire is gone Jamal's bad but maybe next week someone will be better. Someone will be like so oh you like. That's what Jeff is looking for. Oh so you think that Jamal failed because I thought he did a hand job. At least he knew the line you say that he needed needed to be more enthusiastic about it delivered with no enthusiasm and then he was like so you write to us. It's three words you got it. It should have been like are you asking or you telling me fail like when you're fire has gone out anymore as last season so I can understand how he could be confused. I think that want to actually get I think jeff was like acting like he's like a Rockstar at a concert lack like when you say you like he was trying to get a rally going and Jamaal was just like not enthuse love that idea yeah. He was like holding them to the crowd like and what happens when you'll find out stay Jamal. I'm all on this thing on them so you think they will see this other parts of the show where Jeff always the same thing like so What do you guys think I should say about this reward. It's worth played in four all right. Let's Business Yeah Molly. The trial has what is it yeah yeah. I'm going thank you and not the torch. Nothing soon like jeff is thrown the entire like he's. He's not even trying would just finish your phrases. This Jeff getting bored okay. It's interesting. is survivor so met a now. Shannon Ross Jamal off the list that you had people who might replace Jess. He thought that aren't thinking job shot at a tribal council. Dan had a way to sum up what was going on in the game. He was asked about what's tonight's. Vote GonNa be like and this is how Dan saw this so I do think this is going to be more chess. Play checkers play plan chess not checkers. I now second clip that you heard comes to us from the winner of Big Brother twenty-one who also had a catchphrase hatch phrase of the he was playing a chess not checkers right and both Dan and the winner of twenty-one controversial actually write some connection yeah so I guess is CBS CBS. Go trying to make this a thing just not checkers. CBS is like rug. We are trying to deal with the shit. Show that is the Unicorn like we cont be dealing with. A chance to check is and how much I'll show is bigger problems and I think you realize okay. Shannon is is survivor chess or checkers chess right like this occultist together like how many people I don't know well. I hear some and big brother. People say that survivors checkers and big brothers chess doesn't feel right about big brother but definitely the checkers chess in China some of our listeners a road in and wanted to know if you were going to be watching that Australian big brother there is returning but they're saying that it's returning with rules that are similar to survivor. You follow any of this. Yeah I mean I think it's returning with the USB west brother rules because I in the past strategy. Brother has been a fan vote. Yes much less obviously so yeah. I'll definitely check it out. I mean but believe they said they returning with rules. That are like survivor is it that Australian survivor is so popular that they're trying to tell people that hey if you like Australian survivor then you'll love Australian big brother now because it's more like survivor or will it be different than American big brother. I think American big brother like I think that saying it's like survivor is just shorthand hand to people like you vote people out and vote for a winner rather than like the fans voting for that. That's just more shorthand to being late because they don't know what American big brother is like yeah exactly and you do. I have to learn all right. So would you watch Australian big brother. If it was going to be more like survivor yeah I I used to watch oldest brother even with the fan but like yeah yeah so I would watch it. I mean it's not on during likes of either. All stars Israelis title says Eh Audience Stuff. At least I won't have a wedding probably check it out. Yeah Okay Shannon had been talking talking before we came on about some of the secrets scenes that were going on this week and you said that you were unable to view the secret secret scenes that were going on and so there were a couple of different secret scenes usually in the past couple of seasons. There's been a lot of stuff where it's just basically we like the confessional interviews everybody at unless they're not that exciting but there was actually a couple of secret scenes that were somewhat interesting. They were more sort of like be long form variety. There was a jason and Papaya tree which sounds like a children's book where Jason Founding Nearby Papaya tree it unlike Stephen Fishbach that he went over there and with he took an ax and two swings of the axe was able to knock down an entire Papaya tree. It was pretty amazing. You Lie Hunt Fathom that for a minute Jews like that's what the game should have been that we played was. I was going to tell you the plot of the secret scenes and then you tell me which one is the fake one because so that was one that was one of them there was one where Aaron and the people from Leiro go crab hunting and come up short breath. There's one where Boston rob talks about missing his family but leaving after Boston rob you your choice to be playing the game and finally the last one was there was a fake wrestling match like a wrestlemainia setup labor labor. Oh tribe where we do is the main event was missy versus Elaine in WWe wrestling thing. Is this the fake one. I didn't take the fake oh I'm wishing that I would have made up. These are all automobile and here's another secret scene of Sandra. Tolling dogs asked me yeah here. Here's a clip of MRI talking talking about how wrestling Elaine was Jusuf was just a tease for her nice to be able to pick someone up jess. I can throw you around do funny. Ways is the best I want to take every single one of you up and I wanted to throw you even that music after no that's real that was the secret theme. Music styles music well. I think that they were hyping bring it up the Wrestlemainia so wrestlemainia insignia no no it's the rice no it's on the wrestling on Fox now but no not no wrestling on on CBS but about American TV yes shannon should it missy and Elaine be joining us in the next Rha broil rumble. Yes okay so I have issues with the rumble. We'll flowers. I'm wearing jeans people wrestling genes. Would you not normally wear jeans I do. I wouldn't wear them if I was going to wrestle. I I think that the if people are no we're talking about on a recent Robin. AKIVA need a podcast one of the idea that let's show that I do wear are we spin a wheel of random podcast ideas and one of them that came up was the J. P. Royal Rumble in one of our listeners Brent and Canada Brent from big brother. Brent from candid handed him made up a wrestling game where he put in thirty. Rha P personalities and then simulated a wrestling royal rumble most likely Unicorn. I think trying to explain it. It's just confusing. People just goes yeah but I think they took liberty with the what people were wearing jeans and a nice cop like I would. I would wear that heard you registered to think about it. I definitely not jeans made workout clothes. I who is Brent. How does he know what I would wear my day to day life. I don't know instagram out. Do you follow Boston rob on Instagram Shannon. No he just got instagram follow. I just I just do a little bit of a tease for the survivor social media which we have been doing on the this week in survivor with Paul Ostlund listen is going to be our guest on this weekend survivor history quiz which will come after the wiggle room Shannon. That's all one podcast coming up on Monday grim. Yeah that's good. That's good. I don't think that Josh Wigley is going to sign off on the wiggle room but we can change his name. Steven fish back try to assume the snap in half but he won't be able to you in the next royal rumble. Okay just make it up to play with. Josh's ended so badly because I was wearing jeans anyway. You think that's what held you back yeah. Definitely let me ask you another question. This one is going to bring in one of my favorites from Australian survivor. Here's a question for you from our voicemail and this is from Beena Hi Robyn Shannon. It's fina from San Diego Raw. You mentioned in a recent podcast that if nor could stick around for a few more votes she could be on track for being zero vote finalists. We have a survivor Australia winner in Christie Bennett who arguably used on the same trajectory trajectory and yet won the game she even opened up her final tribal council speech by saying all of you you thought I was absolutely crazy but in the end and she managed to flip the jury's respective over as player garnering eight out of nine votes. Could it be that playing up your quirkiness. Enacting acting a little crazy is actually a valid strategy to getting to the ended winning or is it too much of an co battle at final tribal council and everything align just right for Christie Bennett to pull off a one-sentence survivor lifetime. Moment okay jetted now once upon a time. I used podcast about Australian survivor now. How far is it fallen thinking about once a month. I'm Steven Fish back in. I used to guest about Australian Australian survivor back in twenty sixteen and the world was a different place and so we should do our Australian survivor off and that was the season that one Christie Bennett went on to win one of the most respected and revered survivor winners around the world old and so trump i. I don't know your take on the Christie Story. I have a very high my winner rankings. I mean I I think like do you do you. Do you do international winner rankings. We'll four for Australia so I guess yes. You'd be loss on that you. Can you slop like with the with the American winner rankings. Try to it's been hot. It's a very different structure but I haven't done like a specific winner rankings ages but I think I would definitely try to slap them. In is X. Seasons I'm watching too but I do think Christie everything ally like she the Unicorn the frozen ice man from before Tony Block us as a Unicorn many unicorns Gloucestershire meaning. That's that's or no is one unicorn. One Horn uniforms meant to be like once in a lifetime but now they're assuming seventy UNICORNS that it's like you'd rather be a at this point yeah but is it called the Unicorn because it's a it's a horse with one horn or is it the because there's only one of a kind. Would you googling things while I was asleep. Brought you these questions to be working. That's why I have a podcast can ask people question the answer to and then killed. Alvin people can drag me on twitter for being dumb yeah. What's the deal with chiropractors like that yeah so what's what's tell me Whoa. Why do they call it. A Unicorn is because there's one hornets because it's only one of the things that they wrestling with thirty nine days up. You have some missy and Elena wrestling with a lot of things that did not happen and believe you basically bill and it's true and Chelsea was the announcer and she is like whereabout to get. There's Royal Rumble Star Ted and now you convincing more that it's fake okay all right so that Christie people thought she was nutty. She got to the end and said I was playing you all the whole time. How did you from Day One. This is what I was. I was this was all you all fell for it. This was my plan the entire time and she was passionate. It people said okay could nora pull off the same type of victory no no this isn't a strategy like. I listened to a pre-game interviews. This is this is Norah Annetta Chrissy Chrissy waking people up up and talking to them early in the morning. There is great in Rome and very very very offended by this yeah sleep. Yes was Christie shipping around the whole time. Yes definitely valid strategy though okay. This is cheap if they wanNA sheep okay. I say also in terms of respecting sleep sleep a mall in the napping yes this is it like nothing is associated on sleep. In general I think is really shamed on survivor and I told my favorite show like I never appreciate yeah. They're always like been found the idol everyone was sleeping. It's like it's you know it's a tiring game like definitely shouldn't have been napping before tribal council but like what a death warrant just to be sure. Napping Ping Belt. She had the worst episodes molly. It's one thing to sleep during the day but he fakhro recommends midday nap sign doesn't yeah I mean most naps midday. It'll take in evening nap. I've done it yeah evening. Naji recommend it. Do you recommend it. I recommend a NAP concierge yeah. I totally think it's great. I mean office -Vivor Jamal this week like he was just completely buried by eighty edit and his game. I loved when they were like we're three and no one knows and then there was just so muster their three right everyone was going into. King Queen and Jackson obviously communal Julia. Everybody was calling them the king and the Queen and the Jack here's Lauren King and we have the Jack Jeff and then here's Nora three like epitaph the king the the Queen and the Royal Party. They're popular group. Who started that you think that will come up with an independently and we're like this brilliant uh-huh? Everyone came up with the same well. I don't know it almost makes me feel like that. I have more agency for Nora because I think that she is the person who's really really claiming that. She invented this because I sent this week. On Eric Reichen Bax Instagram Eric ragging back act does the survivor drawings and then he did one about a king and a queen and a Jack Nora on instagram she posted this is gorgeous. Please tag me the creator of this concept visit battle for Yes yes. It's still claiming copyright on this. I love it. This is like how I took an raise idea. Yes yeah this is taking whose idea we must get to the bottom of this. CBS Get on it. CVS sold out problem yes but I mean Jamal was having a rough week but then he was tweeting about how then he got followed on twitter by Dude Rocco mom. When do you think Barack Obama watches survivor or do you think that and if he does do you think he's he watched. This episode was like boy. I like the Jamaa Guy. He knows what's going on. It I don't mind midday nap and then he knew what to say at tribal council yeah. Do you think that Rock Obama watches a Unicorn which wants to survive and then he washes episode and then he followed them all visit. Is It on before now. I think it's on a different night. Do you think that that'd be interesting. They'd be now what other survivors if he following Anthony Scaramucci h. e. who followed everyone including me on the show those follow a lot of people. I did you say what did I do all day. Get Ready. This is Mike. I did look to see if I could see like how many shared followers of Barack Obama and myself had where we could. I I see like Oh okay. We both following this this person this person but I I was not able to quickly find that but I suspect it might be a couple. We know that Elizabeth Warren I think only follows Elisa that you haven't been day Napoli Shaming though I don't I don't nap shame what the show does makes me feel ashamed of my now sometimes breath Jamal. I am really sluggish today and I don't know what I could do. I feel like I've lost my my Mojo. I recommend if you say so. I mean yeah okay. You're doing the right. Pray that yeah. Jamal is pro nap. I did love that Jamal. Hey was one of the people that had tweeted out the don't sleep on thirty nine uh-huh tweeted about this did not age well okay. This has been obviously a major factor of the season. Do you think I think that was a pun. You came up with that one. Do you think that that was intentional. You think that somebody was Chelsea that started it Chelsea. She found an idol. This week relegated her all right shed. I still more questions for you. You don't have anywhere to go right. This is still early for you right here. You are in fourteen. I mean say forty five minutes and then I'm going to have to navigate they save the midday nap for later on okay so Shannon. 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What do you think of survivor experimenting commenting with. I called this a survivor vine like six second three shots of like three different random things things which I really feel like provided no context. I didn't know what I was watching. What did you think of this instead of the previously on why I was confused because as I said I've only started watching live hi this season so like I got filling last week and I was like all set off and then I'm like. Is it gonNA work again so I go there. I don't know if it's going to work and then I see this and I'm so confused. I needed something a little bit more. Oh comfortable just for the way that I was watching scrubs or like you in the rumble way better than genes that next time whoever it is data genes yeah yeah. I'm why even nothing just this like. We're we're all K- get rid of the previously on but this was like neither Fisher foul this was this was nothing so you just wasted eight seconds so yes I. There's really no context like it was it was a Jeff Lewis previously yeah justice fooding it in next next week. It's going to be Jamal black or I had gone to the. It's very very soothing so maybe that's why he's been considered because he narrated so well Shannon. Should they let the survivors. I end up doing this like hey. This is Jamal and previously on survivor. Yeah it wasn't good retract what I said. What about napping the first person narration of Hey. This is Jamal last time on survivor. It didn't go so great for me. My a friend Molly got voted out of the tribe and I took a midday nap. Jeff requested a tribal council but I knew the answer but I was blindsided later on in that same same tribal. Let's see what happens to me and the rest of the survivors tonight yeah this would really affect as I think like would account as a confessional like it lasted either. Hi Dean here roll. The Clinton Gore was degenerating it. We founded this week's league. Should they do that. Maybe instead of the promos of like hey this is survivor dean. We'll be right back after this yeah I do. I get out out of this spot Disney channel. I like it. I should they give these Robin Sandra on survivor and then just let then do it definitely GonNa do it gives them something to do on the island something to record yeah. I'm Sandra also I didn't talk about this. Sandra and robs reactions to the votes have been great through two episodes. I don't know if you're going to be able to hear this. This was Sandra's reaction to you. Molly being voted out played. It's unquestionably Sandra's paperwork right. Yes I mean other than dogs names probably which we know. She's talking a lot about the more than her family and her dogs is saying the word ass. I mean that saying I thankfully there's like four or five. Sandra quotes off top my head. I you know that she's he's an ass that he needs to go in the ocean. A and wash is like if you played with Russell. That'd be your favorite one to require yeah say that Sandra one of her goto words yeah I think with Robin Sandra like they're going to be edge of extinction jury yes so hyped up because I was so bored like this is Dan movie like every every comedy show every is Shannon Eva. It's not going to be like lots. Do you think doc that are amazing. Survivor fan listeners could work on some Robin Sandra word clouds for us the most common words from Robin Sandra can I can. I issue that challenge to our our listeners. Let's play Amber Austin Yeah I would. I would love to see that. Ross it until maybe maybe Rawson different person in that that was talked about that. Kelly may be has like a partner at work who or somebody is a best friend named Ross Ross but I'm telling you know it's Brooklyn's razor telling you she said Brock Brock Rug. Is anyone else please the listeners. Please tell us. is anyone else hearing Ross. Okay listen as we'll tell us. They'll tell us I tell you. You're wrong about like your inbox enemy fool right now. Yeah okay good well. I love a AH good podcast debate. Okay Day brought. The debate may be wrong. Maybe you're right. At least we're having we're having a disagreement. Bronze lays raise joke didn't get enough flavor who is great. I think wow that's great. I wanted to get that in it. Was it was fantastic. I I love it. I love the word play that much asterisk. Mr Estimating okay all right. Kayak on twitter Shannon who in this cast is more likely to invent a kid. I guess let's give some back story here. In survivor. The most recent Australian survivor there was a person who played named Harry and Harry came out to the island with these secret he invented a kid to gain sympathy and then eventually eventually that was sort of blown up and he kept to come clean that he does not actually have a kid. Should anybody do that this season. Shannon no no no one should invent a child and also like he's research into the child was like your research for this podcast so definitely who would do that window like with Jason do that. Jason looks like he's playing hot. Does Jason Advocate. Nobody should do this question show. Eh People People leave their mentor. You shouldn't have answered the question. People should should not say they. They have kids that people like like Jeremy Collins had it completely right of vowels pregnant. He didn't tell anybody and then at the final council then he told People Elaine shouldn't tell people that she's poor. She's just tell people that she's wealthy and at the final council she should tell people that she's poor that ah through thirty nine days tell people. I have no. I have no kids. I've independently wealthy. I've got a great job. Everything is great for me. Flannel the council. No I was lying. Everything's bad. I have too many kids. I have no money I am destitute. I have I have many I have. I have twelve kids. I didn't even tell you about all season. Yeah I agree with you but I also like. I want to apologize to Elizabeth because because I had some tweets last week about how dumb it was make fire against Boston robe here. I am talking to someone I respect so much off knee as a survivor. You should make up a child announced it. Honestly I get it now. I understand being by someone who's meant to be helping you but actually testing you in a cruel way. I get Shannon and you need to take this lesson with you back to camp. Okay all right on previous podcast. Yes should make up a kid on until till the final tribal council then make many kids so many kids believe anything. That's good yeah. Snacking Sandra Hodge means you know I have no kids and then at the final tribal council say I have seventeen baby mamas and and I think he probably wants he is he is the provider for all of his kids. This is a very large family. I don't think I don't think invented anything. If you'll game is relying on you inventing kids founder tribal. You've already lost it just the L. but this is a good question shot in as I pat myself on the back before I ask it so anybody ever lied at final tribal council. I why hasn't this happened. Why why don't people live trouble counsel yeah. That's a really really good. Point pushed lie way more at tribal council yeah. That's the time to lie the easiest to shortest term to maintain. It's like people can't lie at Final Council. It's like they say they. They're truthful about about and like like say say you're sorry for things weren't sorry for and make up the people. Were you have people in your family that are like why is that so despicable to like you could lay people live throughout the whole game they thirty nine. Nobody ever tells lifestyle Travel Council yeah and I think the closest one would be like J. T. You like really playing up being like the Salmon Bumpkin on go to a fancy school laxed even for me. Is that was a bad but like that to me is the moist it's like playing off the hardship story. I people should be outright lying. That's when the dead grandma would make the most sense yeah and my my dad grandma like give me money uh-huh okay all right so shannon do another voice mail for you. This is one that comes to us from John on in. DC HAS A has a question for you. Okay here is John in DC WASHINGTON DC. The capital of the United States only one other person in the history survivor has been voted out by vote of seven to two to one in that is Boston Robin Martinez so in season at fifty nine when they build a forty foot bust of molly each. Do you think they will also build a forty foot clam next to her so I thought he was going to be like which would be. I was like I didn't call me for Trish. I'm on the voice smells like yeah. Is that right. That's the only person that got seven to two one. Does that include International. No you would know my door. I know and I also say that Kelly coming back Yada. Yachting's the bus was favorites. There was yeah giant man and woman and there was like wow they really went through the effort to make these giant statues and then just gave you earns like must've wasted a lot of time on moustaches so for molly in her episodes. That is the thing that we will remember most about molly that she got sprayed with the clam. Look I think Chelsea has a high chance of winning and will store. All she said was started. No that's that's just I. That's funny to talk talk about but yeah I feel like that the clan the clam thing it's already on twitter like if you if you look up they give you the gifts on on twitter if you look up survivor thirty nine boom oh it's like right there. That's one of the that's. There's like three or four of them. Yeah I mean she could be remembered for being poverty. Eighteen eighteen point oh my next season probably different poverty being the next five thirty so this is a long lasting. I think yeah I will say that but it is the only gift so far of season thirty nine. Gift Gain is amazing. No it's good with it by the third row. We're getting into Australian survivor gets I will say that and then nor is is is the number two we should rank the gifts. I I WANNA ongoing ranking also in addition to my Boston Robin Sandra Word Cloud. I want ongoing power ranking of the survivor thirty nine gifts and and right now. It's molly getting sprayed with the clam number one and number two you are outsourcing so much work to the fans sounds like Jeff. I'm phoning it in a phone number. You you do too much of it yourself Shannon. That's what that's what what makes podcast fun is keeping the community involved and giving and giving people stuff to do now. It's like a party yeah so I need. I need somebody to be my keeping track of the survivor thirty nine gifts as we go along asking me to do it no intern back and look at you've worked. You've worked your way up through this organization. It's crazy like January. You used to do Great Saliva Human Stephen then nick in me if I wasn't me. I'd be like what four I'm just saying yeah. That's the end. Would we the we cover more stuff yeah. I'm excited about it. It's good can we can. We talk talk about a exciting development. That has come up here. In terms of the future of Shannon Gates podcasting. Yes okay here. Let me get some some breaking news out here to talk about. What's going on here yeah all right so we are so spoiled during the summer not spoil that survivor spoilers but we're we're so spoiled because we have so much commentary from the Great Shannon Gates about all of the International Shnell survivor seasons some even call her the world's foremost survivor expert and after but then the US survivor is season happens and then we and then it's like we don't get to hear from her brilliant brain about anything that's going on with the US survivor season and so I'm very excited that we're going to be commissioning Shannon Gates to fire up the podcast odd cast machine to talk about the US survivor with her amazing slew of international survivor podcast guests Yay Yeah. I'm GonNa be doing some of that. I'll never recommend that anyone makes up a fake baby ever again Josh. I'm I'm committed now to the cause but yeah I mean I'm GonNa. Check in a few times a season. I don't really have a number four it. I mean I really have to plan my wedding but chosen to do this instead his three classic so pretty soon she's going to get started and then you you know every every couple of weeks and whenever she has a great guest ask she will come on and talk some international survivor. Give out the chizzy points and talk about what's going on in the survivor island of the idols Jeff Howe Doing Dan. Dan was excited to thanks yeah. That's great no yeah I it's kind of like you know the NBC Four Bra Abebe. They check in every every so often. Do get them into national guests this season yet again my wedding. This season is at an a net season. I think we might be during survivor. Australian saliva all stars so those are the two biggest events in my life. You can decide the order so I will check in during those but I'm not quite sure on the exact timing but yeah we'll get some great guests in just keep it going which is really very fun. I'm Super Thankful Rob. Thank you so much for giving me all this stuff to do. Thank you do it all of your hard work and and I really am always excited to hear what you have to come up with because I feel like that. You really you really get get both sides of survivor of that. There is the strategy which you are able to dissect so well but then there's also the nonsense so that's the really the two parts that make a survivor podcast and I think that you've got both down. Colt thank you. I've learned from the best just a mental who's constantly testing me making me doubt myself. It's a good way to learn. It's like feet to the fire which is good but now it's my favorite thing to do. and I love being able to get to do it more and being able to do. This is just yeah I mean. Survivor is my life. I'm literally about to book my honeymoon. You can guess will go for Fiji. Why what are you GonNa Fiji. I'm I want to see the Boston. Ruben Sandra heads pictures like a reality TV. Island is like a tourist things may actually I'm. I'm going to relax on my honeymoon. I'm going to rewatch its readiness alive at twenty seventeen plant. It's going to be napping as well. Thank you Jamal all right. the survivor read it twitter account said Shannon knows that the the survivor read it both the count and the wider sub admires her work here at it bread. It's nice to meet Janet. fat. Tyson on twitter is also saying that just here AIA days zero Shannon stand also like to thank or think my Boston Austin Up Senators Advisor Twenty sixteen helps Shannon into being discovered by J P and propel her integrate and fat. Tyson tree tweeted that that fat Tyson told you to apply to be the game changers expert for many different survivor players that yeah that was amazing thing. I woke up to that this morning and I was like what a blast from the positive. I originally tried to be the expert supplying tonight. I was a nobody like that was given to Liana as it should have been and then he told me to do other people's souls like I I guess no one will really be doing debbie right. I asked to do Debbie and I did my first podcast and I fell in love with podcasting and I was like the first time I spoke to you as well. Sorry I remember like when we got on the coal. We never talked on like a patron cast or anything like that beforehand. Is I think we must we must have known that. I think we did we did it. I'm telling you it message. No we had that was the I think I remember when we got on the call. I was like Rub. I told you I wouldn't I've told myself not to freak out but I'm breaking out and you'll like don't forget this whole this whole thing. They just to talk to you. The most craziest audible that little and being on a podcast and Tyson is the one who made it happen cure other mentor fat Tyson Okay May from from candidate says also shed and is the best and deserves her own giant lost based on an island this. Why are you reading out such nice comments because you feel bad but we said at the beginning of the party that all of your yeah you're the loyal Australian survivor and international survivor listeners very excited the you're going to be on yeah. I I love that. Thank you guys so much. It's such a beautiful thing in the community. Genuinely people send these nice comments and my whole day you guys are the best okay. was there anything else from this week's survivor that you wanted to touch on. I'm looking through my notes. If I had anything else I feel I wanted to say you know. My preseason. WanNa pick was Aaron. I don't feel I don't feel great about that. Love this car like what I'm so pumped up for the season such such an incredible cost Vince is great. I thought that he came off a little bad in the first few minutes do just Aaron just lost his ally and was otherwise is unanimously voted voted against the yell at him. Yeah women as well like what cost I'm so pumped up about the season just to go back to Erin are in for a second that Aaron that he I'm not sure if he's a much of a gambler but if he has been he's probably broke. I were gambling person writing. I would tonight once again. We're going to get that was that was right right before Chelsea the fire production reading an enemy getting Boston rob to teach him how to gamble. Oh yeah that'd be good. I mean he was partners. Partners with Ronnie and Ronnie's already gone so we'll see who's GonNa get voted out next. I still think more could go. Oh Yeah I know. I think this thing could swing back. I think it's still very fluid over at VOCA yeah. She's still shaming people for sleeping and for sheathing. There's only so much everyone can do yeah okay Shannon. We are going to switch gears. Go the fourth gear fifth year even with the wiggle room coming up on Monday so very excited about that. We will hear the wand off entries. He's for this week. I suspect we'll have some good ones. After this episode Very Fun Week of survivor and then Jordan Kayla and I will welcome welcome Paul Oslo Sin to the very excited to talk with Paul because he is our Sandra Diaz twine expert so we'll have to hear what he has to say about Sandra and all of her pomeranians and everything else that's going on. My mom was so excited when she heard that Sandra has four Pomeranians channon. Is She being rainy and Stan I what she she has. She does have a Pomeranian so she was now. She's a very are very into Sandra. I think she was sort of like ambivalent on Sandra before but now she's a big Fan who knows more at your mom older. Go on the date in the Unicorn one. I mean my mom does know a lot about I mean. She's a casual but she does. She has watched the show she history with the show or going on twenty years so. I don't think that she's just she doesn't need a friend to tell her who Boston robbers yeah. I don't really that was painted as sad who that person doesn't even watch. I didn't get that she was the sad superfan I got. The sense though Walton Goggin was being painted as the person the sheltered I know I I think that they were looking at her like wow get a life and I well. You Watch survivor. That's what they were looking at a AH. You should know how the how society sees us as a community. We have so many disagreements today. C. Walked away my friend said. Do you know who is it. Was Boston Rab Boston. No I have no idea that this guy from survivor survivor. Oh I love them. I ended tiger from Boston yeah. She said Boston Ross. I can't believe leave it there. was she even listening to him. She's in Boston Ross. That's as clear as the definitely wrong all right. Shannon Shannon Gates a on on social media. Where can people follow you and get more Shannon Gates at Shannon Gates handle. I am keeping through my married name in a COUPLA Luma Rob human nature not my handle I think I am doing that twitter instagram yeah. I'm constantly tweeting about the show you know as if you follow me you know. I don't have much else allies like this is where I am follow and so many deep dives just subscribe international survivor of because that's where and reality TV will have obsessed whether US coverage is GonNa be and also older never ending. Just instagram is where you post pictures of all your genes. Yeah Brent is checking. That's fun Catholicos Blue Jeans and I'm trying to think like I. I don't know it's really creepy anyway. I appreciate it being in the Royal Rumble kicked me out of the next time okay right so be on the lookout for the international gas talking American survivor with Shannon and those in our survivor podcast feed as well with the BNB and why blank lost which you could hear Shannon on from time to time when she is the number one person off the bench to go on with David Bloomberg yeah anyone who helped me talk about survivor like clearly they're going to Fiji for my honey humor. Yes very much you think I am and your fiance does does is he just like such a great guy that he just goes along with it or is he sort of at least borderline interested in both things no he he loves the Lila like he really does as I said before if he didn't relationship wouldn't work for us like he could not handle me I. I don't know what I would have to say to him or yeah. This is an interest that you are assorted into but have to go along with that how much he's interested in it. I really liked classes. Well about fantasy football which I also really like like online interest we boys are Bentley Fantasy Australian football aw yes okay which Roselle ansel. Oh Okay cheesy system comes from you'll learning to now. I am learning stuff so there is Australian football. That is not rugby. Yes okay and it's it's really violent right. No I mean people get injured a lot but as long as violence like Y'all Sports Air American football like really violent all right learning so much here today. Thank thank you for telling me. I'll have to listen and we all start playing the Australia Australian fantasy football yeah I mean you should listen to us. He made a patriot. He's taken a lot from you so yeah okay all right. Well happy. Hope it's working out. It is awesome yeah. It's going really well paid for that honeymoon to Fiji. Okay all right. I I should just be flow into Fiji much press. Am I giving feeding survivor but it's fine. I just pay my way. They're a lot a lot so all right Shannon you mentioned Patriae on rob has a website dot com slash patron. That's where we've got. Our ROB has a podcast patriae on page where you can find out how to become part of our podcast patron community. We've got a a great offer going on for new patrons who come on board and our existing ones that through this Wednesdays no at all that you can get the JP AP pop socket Sharon. Did you know pop sockets. Do you have those hit Australia. Yeah Mas I. I don't actually have a pop song and I haven't seen someone one but I don't think that's an Australian that just might be my we're GonNa get you. We're GONNA get you on so dropping shopping. Your phone ever takes takes sell fees for your instagram a change your life yeah. I want amazing okay that and much more Patriot only podcast feed at a great facebook Friday this past week with our patrons and much more over at rob has a website dot com slash patron Shannon. This was so much fun. I'm glad we got to catch up talking about episode number. Two the island the idols yeah this was so much fun. I I love coming on the feedback show. It is like genuinely every time a complete dream come true so I just have to thank you so much for only like kind of testing me in a little bit being mean to me and I think just the one asterisk is what we agreed on but otherwise giving me all these opportunities like I couldn't be more grateful. Thank you so much and looking forward to hearing. We get to say about the season to a good one bye

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A lot going on here today Garin gets unfairly smashed seconds into the not even one minute and Garin and gets kicked in the balls. To me, is it safe to say the two to seven is the place to be with Marla Gibbs and her family. I can only trust you on those words that was a promo that they ran on NBC's. I remember it thirty seven years later I have friends that love that program to seven I watched it religiously. Yeah. Is that right? Did Not say this is one hundred percent true I have not seen one second of it. It's got the Great Regina King the Emmy Award Winning Regina. King. Girlfriend Regina King was on there. Yeah. She was she was the daughter she was Marla Gibbs's daughter. Boy bullshitted directed some movie coming out with our friend I WANNA see Lamont Cranston. But that ain't the right name that is the shadow Who's the fellow you are in Hamilton Thank you yeah. it's a movie with allegedly owed. I believe that Regina King directed looks fantastic. I'm suddenly panicking that she did win an emmy right she must have. I believe she just won the Emmy for That's right but I think we did she maybe she might even one before that. I just feel like she's always nominated over the last five years or so she's just she's great and everything. she's been on a lot of really good shows. TV movies and miniseries and. She has four me for what Garin did she get one for land that tweak Wasn't southland. No she got one for watchmen that was just sort of just this year. Love it, and then she got one for something called seven seconds Oh. Yeah. That's was great in that. That was. An HBO, or something. Yeah. Yeah. It's a limited series that you've got to for American crime. She was great in that. She. Always Great. She's always great, and as I've said, it retain comes up I did that. The music video awards or whatever and She was a presenter and just was a person just was a person did not have any star attitude like some of the other folks there did who were lesser stars than she? And She. Just was laughing and having fun and enjoyable than I ran into her once going in and out of Kevin and bean and she was again very. Friendly and Smiley face and it was it was great. pull up in her jeep jeep. With the top down you're like, literally like a Malibu. Barbie Harvey Melbourne RB. Bambi Balibou Ballard Bell announced your mouth just turned into marbles Oh. Jesus Christ that dump zero Garren with my marble. Fair Garin Anyway she had one of those jeeps and she's very nice. Now, two to seven grow quick I. I was a kid age I was I. Would I just watched Saturday night NBC whatever they put on in those two hours because it was always four sitcoms. So it was like Golden Girls Amen to to seven and like empty nest or whatever and then sometimes it was nurses was in the mix I, think it all the spin offs of golden girls right like they all there is like I think there were two or three shows that came out of the universe golden girls but then two, two, seven was in their amen was probably in there point I watched them all. Let's check. What? SPINOFF. So angry and necessarily I. Do not. I don't think it was a spin off now no. have been off. Yeah to to wait. Next door. Across the street I get it. Does seem like Jackie would have had a spinoff but I don't know if she did it doesn't. Seem like there's a spin off. Kinda seems Jackie's post to seven careers. All spin off it. All seems like she's still doing that character no matter where she's going what? I was going to say it's interesting before Elliot decided to be part of the conversation. Did nothing wrong is my point I yelled for humor. was. It's funny to think that even is leaders. You being a kid that Saturday night was considered decent television night. Yeah and then, and then they just bail on that. That's for me. Growing up the Combo of love boat fantasy. Island. And I WANNA even say Sonny and Cher at some point we're part of that probably prior to them or maybe conflict may may maybe opposite maybe were on CBS and The others were on ABC have no idea what these things are. I'm sure some TV nerd knows all of this but I am not that guy. I. Think those were ABC right. Well, those two were I want to say, but I can't remember Sonny share was. CBS where they going up against fantasy islander I, just remember that it was on Saturday nights But that's A lovebird fantasy island Combo. I can't remember mostly you know unless unless it's like must see Thursdays and so therefore, that reminds me I couldn't tell you like I watched battle star Galactica no idea what night of the week was on. Could I only know these the love boat finish Ireland because like it would be my mom step that would go bowling on Saturdays night Saturday night, and so we would watch while they were getting ready. We'd be watching love boat and then my babysitter would show up and we'd watch fantasy island. We had a babysitter 'cause my brother was younger than me and was not comfortable with me being the man of the House. May Have Been Right. But we did I will say this, we had a babysitter. Relate my life way to how old are you eighteen? Eighty nine years old right in that area. Yeah. I think even in eighth grade, I had one because my brother was in sixth grade. Now your son is in eighth grade now would you him home alone four hours on a Saturday night now? I would not yeah I don't think that's crazy but I think. Given given how different things where back then I'm sure it seemed crazy then. It seemed like, I, I was a lot for yo Yo. You still have a Babysitter League out at ten o'clock on a Saturday. So it's working out. Fine guys everything's fine. You know because we would you know she would want her boyfriend to come over. So she was very lax with the. Her name was Kelly, Casey. That was her name and she may or may not be six feet tall. She was a very tall. Young lady and do imagine now a woman and Kelly Casey was her name and my One of my stepbrother's had a huge crush on her ever. made out or anything or if anything ever happened, they were the same age and. There's an opportunity. There's a chance. Maybe they did I don't know No. No. by the way Elliott just to if you this might make you feel a little better I have no idea. If I'm right about those shows being Saturday night. But My recollection of it, I ninety nine percent sure that I'm right about golden girls and empty nest but to seven could have been on Tuesdays. I don't know it. I think you're right that. Just, moved around sometimes too. That's true. You shuffle them around the Elliott. I think you're right because I think when those shows were on I was doing standup comedy so I would never have seen a show on Saturday nights. Unless I taped it. Of course. I take those programs course. AB, which is why I would watch designing women and whatever that was buckled up with what was it? Johnny. Women what to back to back on Monday nights. Yeah. Because that was my night off. And I would y At northern. Exposure. Believe over. overrated. Probably by has just as good or bad now. Yeah it's New Orleans overexposure. What, Garin. That's what I meant to say I, fucked it up. fucked up my own job. what was that Sitcom that was paired with designing women? It was another I don't remember I never watch the men getting mad that women have their own opinions. I didn't watch that Schiff Brown Jimmy I didn't watch that Shit. I watched golden girls. Speak speaking of of shoulder. PADS. She watch this weekend's this week's episode of the vow. We are twenty minutes in Danielle Bruin are evening it fell asleep. Actually, got about it because I was catching up on the the SNL. Thing that happened. Talking about. Do we we? We almost watch the second time. We enjoyed it so much. Just once again, proving the Chris Rock was never good on Saturday night live he he somehow in twenty years twenty five years still has not learned how to read a Cue card, which is weird because his job basically other than stand up which is a genius at. He's done many many TV hosting gigs and award show type things. He's still can't read a fucking cue card and that's the only thing you have to know how to do knows the hosts and you know what's funny met to your point. He's so uber famous now like he's Still, not comfortable doing sketch work still isn't like well here we go. I'm just GonNa have some fun and do this. He looks like a guy, it's week one. And Hey you got cash her live Holy Shit my parents yes. He's in a sketch how about just commit to memorizing one of the sketches like one one, just the lines from one. So that just with at least for one sketch, you don't look like a robot who's in a sixth grade play like this. Too much headroom for me. down. All right. That's fine. Never you more comfortable. And I think I have to because I know. Oliver Daniel earned the room I believe the opening cold open is still playing I think is yeah I think it's still going they decided that this should be twice as long as the actual debate that would make it funny. Wow. That was that that that show was rough sledding although I did admittedly the the the name always makes me laugh at Lafley it. It's like I, I when it started I was like, are they really fucking doing this again and then I was like God damn when I got to give it up for some of that writing A. That young lady. Aggo is that how you say that can't be right it's not ego. Name eggos sounds like a waffle. That people don't want to don't want you touching. Lego. Whatever her name. With the Edith Pathy. That in such in that in that uppity old black woman way it was so perfect. Yeah. Yeah. The cast is still great and then the writing can be good. And it just I think. They're so caught up in being the sketch show of record that the that is so antithetical to comedy to be like we're GonNa do the thing one, hundred percent of the audience knows we're GONNA. Do Right now here it is the debate sketch. It's like really you can't break from that or at least come up with a different angle on it than just what you always do, which is trot out couple of impressions that aren't good and and then just kind of hit the same beats for like literally thirteen minutes I think well I. You know Alec Baldwin is trump has been hitting the same beat and I there's no SA network. Beat three years, four years, five years he I did laugh at. Chris Rock's. Monologue where he said. Anderson. Cooper Plane Blowing Kazoo Comparing Sean Hannity. Sean. Hannity's tell you the world's ending. Figure it out. We got vote Republican and. Risk Scaffold blowing a Kazoo I'm paraphrasing that. The use of Kazoo. Chris rock is his stand up is just gorgeous and although we did have one premise that was just a false premise that didn't go anywhere and it was like, wow even the premise didn't work jokes in the false premise didn't work was that the thing about comparing eggers comparing trump to a female boxer or something? Yes. That was it funded that even mean I still don't understand what the like if you take it at face value is just like a a sort of standard very sexist joke of like because the punchline was like but she's hitting women that and it's like so you're saying like. Fighting. A woman is inherently not impressive because they're just women they're not like they can't be good at boxing or So that's the. Most obvious reading of it, which is what I was saying. She was like what the fuck was that and I was like does he mean that it's wrong to hit a woman and so like that's the analogy is that He's doing like that. But yeah but you still hitting a woman like, yeah like. which is we all agree morally wrong. But to me the again, it doesn't work because within the world of boxing a woman, a woman that's part of the sport that's the sport. So it doesn't the analogy falls apart. So you're either being sexist or kind of missing the mark even even. So that isn't that a little sexist too because I mean obviously we've been taught. You don't hit a woman and certainly if you have a Friend and she's a woman you don't hit her but to be fair, you shouldn't hit a man either under those. We would further baby should hit anybody about that unless you're yeah. Unless you're in that ring man, you get that ring and even that seems weird twenty twenty. Yeah. That was one of those jokes that you could see him like trying out at a club and then it's like okay I won't use that one I don't. Know why any crowd would like? Yeah. It Well, I think when you think about that the that closing NBA sketch I didn't make it past the news by the way. You're fine. Fine Yeah Maybe. It's a one. Maybe I saw the beginning Oh yeah. That's right the first sketch. was another I'm sorry to sound like this whatever like I'm being so parochial about it or whatever. But there is another weirdly sexist sketch. after the news, it was like What was it? It was like the women trying to get into the NBA bubble or something that's what I just said I should get oh, I forgot what it wasn't. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. The I that's when I turn it off like I saw I saw the idea was and I was like now this is just when you. Kind of explains that boxing one that maybe that's maybe it was a sexist joke because it was a really tone deaf. Yeah. Awful sketch. Yeah I don't get that I don't a. I don't know SNL has got a real like it's it's even hard for me to watch them do like Joe Biden thing where it's like they're still in this alternate reality where like Hey, it's all fair game. We're not in normal times. So like taking shot at literally the only guy, the our last hope of getting out of the nightmare of the trump presidency, you're still going to take shots at him like he's Jimmy Carter, it doesn't work any. Sense to do that in these times I. Don't I don't accept it. I one, hundred I. Ordinarily. Yes. A both should be getting hit because you don't want. Equal equal. where? These are desperate times. To me it feels like it feels a little equivalent to saying they're they're good people on both sides to basically to have this, and all does evoke this like ivory tower mentality of like very privileged rich people who run that show going well, none of this affects me. So I'm just GONNA. Like we're just apply the same blanket like wh- make fun of everybody it's like, yeah. But if you lived in our world, you wouldn't. Look at it that way you would if you had skin in the game like on a real level, you wouldn't be doing you'd be like, fuck we have to take this asshole out and L- and let this guy the give give him the ball. I mean not this isn't conducive to comedy but don't take tr- Biden out at the knees. That's GonNa like what the fuck is. The benefit of that will you know it's funny we Mike Schmidt and Danielle, and pet Francis and Russ mcgarry, and some other. We all worked at a place called load media DOT COM. There was a sketch that they did. I wasn't there this week was I if I was on the road I wasn't part of the of the team but There was this really handsome looking PA. And I forget it, I forget his name is, let's say Greg, and so they wrote a sketch about how great do no wrong and it was just like. Somebody would do something that was nothing and They would go god Dermot John and then Greg would do something horrific. Greg. Greg and it's worst feels like that's what should have happened. Funnier take. Yeah that Biden was perfect nothing wrong and this guy's fucking everything up. Yeah. I think that's a funnier angle to be like be like the Meta joke of things are so bad. We can't even make fun of the things that are obviously funny about Biden right it although I did laugh very Harvard and Jim Carrey came out and started doing the air guns. As. Biden. And then then also there's there's no real evidence that Joe Biden has this hidden rage. So that was another thing like why is that a thing like I don't let go don't let it. Does though because he does he snapped at that one guy and said, hey, you wanna you WanNa do push ups right now. He does. While he goes into that weird motive like I'll take you in the. Did. What did he say about trump I'll beat you out. beat him up beat like a drum. He's just he's just like a funny like World War Two veteran GRANDPA basically like he's like the guy who's Sweet and just is very very content but then you push a button and suddenly he's like back in the fucking trenches. How do you? Know this has been debated and discussed on every morning radio show today and and for the last. Five years There's a cast of Saturday night live How about we don't need to bring in these stunt casts I don't I don't get it. Chevy Chase didn't look like Gerald Ford. Accurate didn't look like Jimmy Carter. Guess it doesn't look like Joe Biden. Japan. You'll find one of your cast members Beck Bennett although begged a pretty good Greg Chris Wallace but. Find One of your cast members who can do a Get the cadence down or something and I'd rather it be that you hired this cast. Let them do their job now. As a new season so was there any new cast? There's a couple of new features. Players were very, very not all that featured. Yup I can't even think of. One of them popped up once in a sketch like as a like a one line thing or something, I can't really they all showed up doing one line at some point throughout the show but Melissa VCR nowhere to be found. It's a good point. Yeah. Eighty Bryant was in a couple of things and. Boeing young showed up into this thing at the news. Yeah. I. Think. I think that they've decided that's the way they stay. Relevant is to get the biggest celebrity they can to play the most marquee. Politician or whatever in a sketch and I guess it works because people talk about it. You know people talked about Deniro Being Muller, and they talk about that's all true I. I mean, honestly, I thought Woody Harrelson was a better biden. I thought Jason Sue Davis was the best of all the bio. Right actually that's a good point. He was better. Yeah he was funny. They're all I mean like Jim Carey's funny but. It didn't really. It wasn't for a guy who was famous for imp- impressions early in his career it's not a good impression. It doesn't really ring true at all but it was it was nice seeing a guy not reading cue cards and being present. Yes. And then you when you see others show up in blatantly reading and again I do a podcast or I talk off the top of my head and even though sentences don't come. Through Woodley smoothly. You know what? I've tried to say that fucking sentence proper remember remember Malibu. Marvel. My point is this I know better and we're all winners. I will say this talking about the we were talking about boxing moments ago. We watched the first rocky over the weekend. As part of the quarantine movie festival here at the part of household and I. Hope he doesn't hear me it was the greatest because it was over you know and you know you know your e it doesn't matter how many times you see that movie man you you you you leave on a high it is so great and he is so great net everybody's so great and then you got that the axing scene which so. It's over and all that was really great, and then it was time for bed because it was late into the evening and. He went to brush his teeth and then put his pajamas on and walking down the hall. He's doing the shadow box. I happen to catch him and it was like, yes, that's what you're supposed you after you see rocky to be. So Holy Fuck I just saw that movie and you're supposed to to the. In your head, don't turn it around and. Even the next as like data movie was so great and. Got It. So it holds up it holds up. Awesome. It's up there. I think for me for Jimmy Pardo I think it's up there with the the godfather and breaking away in the top movies that I've that I've ever seen. Then of course shampoos for. So. There's a lot of movies you only one kind of movie it sounds like Jimmy. What's that? I said you to kind of movie it sounds like. One Word Nope. No No. That was a joke. I was being sarcastic. Well was that you typing Elliott. What's that man is typing out his resume to send. If I could suggest ziprecruiter. Dot Com I. Don't know if you put your resume on there. I don't know how that works. ADS for four years. I did have a question. Matt Matt made a point of saying that the Saturday night live is the sketch comedy show of record isn't it? Now for television? Anyway, the sketch comedy show. Yeah there's that too. Yeah. They're they're they're fighting a battle that everyone else is as quick. As basically said fine you can have it Do you there first and you'll be their last because no one gives a shit. Show is. What Garin the sketch comedy show I don't know what that is. Wait am I am I I guarantee Garin I'm sorry. That joke in the very beginning, they called you zero I didn't realize that was going to completely take you out of the game. I meant nothing by literally right now feel like somebody clocked me upside the head with that. I just want to understand what you're asking. I? Don't know the way Elliott just said that it's as if there are two popular sketch shows on the air right now Saturday night live in this mysterious. No. Apologize my ability to communicate is is I. You understand exact opposite of what I think we all. got that we're still going back. Here's what you're. I'm putting quotes joke about. You're lucky that Garin waited with this la to. Stop that nightmare thank you for reminding everybody Jimmy Well It's my pleasure. That's what I do here as the wrangler nickname. But if I did, it would be the wrangler regular You know what? kind of like it maybe I'll start wearing wrangler jeans those seem to be comfortable to nobody but the cowboy, you could drive a jeep wrangler. Just, like King. Regina, maybe we could drag. Your I'm just curious by the way for this video of viewer. Recording in front of a stop light. Legally. Blind you and then goes away I. Don't know what that is. That's weird. Just, my ring light is. Okay that's what it does. It just goes it goes Blah Blah. Anyway, Garin what he was saying there's only one sketch show on. TV So for them to say. To Act, like they're the the or for me to say that there. ASSHOLE. Yeah. But the my my point is they that's the way they produce. The show is to be like. Well, we have to do a debate sketch because everyone else expected the The New York Times of sketch shows to do it and like. No one cares I mean I I guess, yes, ever expected I I would argue in comedy. That's what you shouldn't do it because you should try surprise people you gotTa do I think it needs to be thirty minutes long I don't. And I also don't over these cold open. I think you could come out and do a sketch. One of your six minute sketches after the monologue be that exact because it's also predictable otherwise that's the other thing. I do think honestly that they have to do it because they are known for that. Also. It doesn't have to be the the opening thing and it doesn't need to bore me to tears like I'm. Boring. Yeah, that's why I wish. They would find another angle on on the whole idea of just like because it's not only that we know it's GonNa be the cold open and we know we know how it's going to go. We know what the how the structure of it's going to be and it. There's a there's a million different ways you could approach that and it doesn't have to be the sort of standard straightforward. We are going to recreate the debate with funny celebrity impersonators. Well, you know what to to that point too with with social media and so on and so forth. But the news that we have that we we also there's no surprises with. You know on Thursday your I look at Jim Carrey as Joe Biden. So even that surprise of him walking out was taken away from us like. Yeah But you knew it was going to be him sure and in the old days it was fun. Yes. The door would open and here comes Robert Deniro as as Muller. Even remember that me that was a surprise so. It was only should it's him or Ben Stiller as Michael Cohen. Kind of fun, you don't know what's going to happen and you pops up. So yeah, I don't know why they're not more protective of those things because certainly they want people to walk you want to watch the. Answer? Yeah. That's sadly true. But I do think it's a lot more fun when it's a surprise at least you get that thrill of it like Oh my God it's Jim Carrey yeah I I don't know that's a you know what I MISS Is I miss when when? Doesn't happen anymore because people don't just sit and watch TV that's just coming out live. But they used to it seems like most sketches and maybe money python started it where the first the cold open. You. It was like it was a real like they worked really hard to make it look like it was a real other show and then you found out that it was the sketch show so that if you weren't a Saturday night live you or you just happened to be watching and you just left the TV on, you would think this is another. Just regular television show and then, and then there would be a twist and a turn I. Miss I. Miss that I think that that's a cool thing. They do try to do that with their graphics and stuff, but they also for some reason now insist on intentionally accidentally leaving in a little bit of crowd laughter as you're coming into it. So it's like. To Know Your Don CNN. Point why did they started that? That's annoying. Yeah. Anyway it it's like they still set in the mode of yes. We are trying to make it look real and yet. I don't fool anyone. I don't think. Yeah. But I also don't think what you're saying I. Don't think it's possible anymore just like you said I don't think you can pull that off in this day and age but but it's also just to your point Jimmy like the even the news. They're doing jokes and you've said this before all said this before. But by the time you get to Saturday night all the jokes on weekend update have already been done. Fifty Thousand Times. Yeah. On on social media and so like they're trying to beat whatever the best things that the whole world came up with already about trumping in the hospital. What's up yet? Jimmy. Badness. What's going on man? Well, try to keep it from but but. Matt go ahead, which would even using hustle I saw maybe he's out driving his car waiver to people. He's doing great. What do you mean? He's in the hospital? Yeah. Well, he was. He had he left the hospital to do that. Yeah. He he had to go to the hospital over the weekend. Apparently he's got a little sniffle. Okay. So then he was driving, he was obviously driving home when he did that little Just, he just wanted to do a tour of the the block around the hospital I guess get out and get some fresh air that makes censoring. Cova people no. No fresh air. He was actually in hermetically sealed vehicle with the secret service agents who are not sick. Oh. But he he's just has a sniffle. There's nothing really serious going on with him. Well, I mean it's hard to. He did I he did tha he did test positive for coronavirus but then he should be in a hospital room and should not leave that hospital room for fourteen days. The pressure you're telling me now he's taking a joyride thought he was just. CENA's buddies he's he's not going to let anything get in the way of the important work of president, which is waving to people. This is this is. Over that's Why I decided. Ask Good decision that was fun fun bit for a little bit see. 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Got A lot going on here Steve Burns with us he's got a brand new movie coming out called I. Want to say the opening act is the name of it Am I right about that Steve Right, Steve you are correct. Yes. Everything you say is correct by the way. Thank you for that. Could you tell that to these? Could you send these guys that that memo because they don't seem to get your from the pre show I gathered just say, Jimmy Okay Oh is that what happened what I went to use the restroom? APP. Listen partisan a move yesterday every fuck buckets. We'll take the bullet will be the ones that disagree with him if something needs to be said, but you can go ahead and just go along with whatever he says I would prefer that you all just kind of follow Steve's leading everybody agrees with the I. Want you to worry about the show to be more Trumpian. You guys just all let me do whatever I want Jimmy ridiculously wrong if we don't if we don't stand up. With you. Then there's no show. It's GonNa be a five minute show. That's all we have nothing to talk about. A good point Steve Burns Harry's take time away from weed whacking or whatever he's doing out in the. I It literally can't look more like you're on a Saturday morning kids show your. Backyard push behind him that'll make him look. He's outdoors Janet Kelly asked me about the birds and the bees. Tampa. Burn Hey Steve is that a scots above the bush? I thought it was like a spider like what is that? Scott's yeah. With Matt it does look like. A Halloween. Spider. Scott's usually a candle holder I guess but that's I guess a lantern and then when I went to get the pen and paper, I got made fun of four. The Butterfly. Fairy Thumb night light. Which? I didn't pick out so. He's fun of you. A hassle to travel with. But when they sell they moved, don't they stay up That's right. You're all you have to do is work it into your closer if you work at the closer everyone's GonNa. Want one. I yelled to sound guy what it is. Get the right to dim the lights and I'm holding. Yeah. You know what? I Would Admira Guy Anybody that wasn't selling a shirt. or a CD even though I'm guilty both of those I think this is the highest praise I can give I read Colin Jost. And I thought it was absolutely hilarious and I said this book is so good. I'm going to sell it as my merch after my shoe. Has Good. I'm glad to hear you say that because I do like that guy I think he's a good joke writer I've been meaning to read that book and then but somebody on. FACEBOOK was mother up and down this morning about how he's nothing but a money grubbing a whole and doesn't care about the joke only cares about money and that was his take away from the book. Did you is that your takeaway Steve? Wow? No not at all. The Guy. He grew up kind of like middle-class he's not about money's not about. Any of that stuff I mean, if you ever hung out with him for a day you. See how less he cares about being Colin Joe strength that stuff he's interested. Normal Dude really great. You know by the way Steve Just reading his book that doesn't mean you hung out right? The one thing he didn't write about was his his flair for dressing up in World War Two Nazi memorabilia. The basement so? Smartly, that private. Back, at least you guys have that in common. He's got the brand new movie that Steve Walkers Tamura, where we could see this movie instead of me just saying that it's coming out. I have the only copy on my laptop ship to hit me up on craigslist after three at. Walmart. Cedars vod whatever theaters happened to be opened. So basically, if you live in a red state, you'll be able to see it in movies. And it's via deeper. Amazon, and so you can see you can pre-order it right now actually. When you say preorder now, when will it be available to livestream? The sixteenth. Now is this the October the sixteenth It is this the movie Steve that you invited me to see screening on and then as I was in my car with my son heading there you text me and said, Hey, it turns out maybe some of these things aren't appropriate for is this the movie? Yeah you're like as a Burma Son on my dad I I just figured Oh, he's he's old enough right and then and then I texted you I just had this moment whereas like wait hold the kid and then you say thirteen I, believe right I probably eleven or twelve at the time actually thirteen now yet I was definitely not definitely I apologize I think that's when you pull. Back quite. A few things that occur over the course of this young man's weekend that. would be inappropriate for a young man, but he's probably going to sneak away and see it anyway. So maybe not there's no question Nico he can't wait to see who's on today. Steve Bernie because that guy from that TV s sitcom ago. That's the Guy Son. So he knows. The one that got canceled. Yeah. He he likes shows fail that he's got a weird. Yeah he's a weird kid my son He. Doesn't like successful things. I. said I got the Guy from solvent its on Sun and then he said that one too many sons. That's not what's called Steve. Martin? Is Areas take time away from foliage and. He's got this hot new movie coming out Vod that that means voice on demand you yell at Your TV and it gives it to you. He's also like you said, it'll be in the motion picture houses. Maybe we'll be at the drive INS here locally Steve it'll be at the drive ins waiting here for going to do a premiere at a driving. So we'll see about that but just yeah, just really excited about getting it out there and I think anybody who's involved in comedy whereas Ben on the road much like yourself I you'll. I pitch them a tagline you've been to a comedy club, but you've never been on the road and that's the old films about it's about a kids very first time ever got the safe job at a college moonlights as a comedian is passionate comedy and he gets offered his very first road Gig ever on the road opening four coincidentally is favourite headliner while time who happens to be a wash up ninety sitcom actor. That had a really relevant, our special that. You know didn't lost relevance over the years and the whole film is over over the course of four days. And the first half of the film is All, the Romanticism lined up to ms man partying of hanging out with the feature act and the back half of the film is the sobriety isolation in solitude and warming up to this weary road veteran mom and so I. Think you get all three echelons of comedy. You get all the inside baseball to what the light means getting Intros, right fish out of water for the MC and closing the the manager and hoping get booked. Again. So it's all those things and the old adage of nothing good happens after midnight. So you know trying to apply all of that into this film and I think we I think we pulled it off and you wrote and directed this corrector wrote and directed it. Yeah. So it's It was it was an arduous process. You know when when it got green lit, for example, Vince Vaughan said, what do you WanNa do you want to be I said well, I'm too. I'm too old to be the MCA feature and I'm too young to be a headliner like visually what you think of aesthetically to film as I said, I'm just happy to be done said, well, why don't you direct it? So I've never direct anything, he said you never wrote anything before either we're making this. So why don't you go ahead and directed I said Okay Yeah and took all the master classes and Read all the books from. Kazan to direct for dummies. And I felt as prepared as I could and the first day on set the very first day it's Jimmy Yang. Alex MOFFITT and they're doing a diner scene that takes place after morning radio So I'm sitting there, my chair, my assistant director Arby's next to meet Peter. Billingsley that produces there and I'm fucking I'm like I'm over the moon and Michael we should I can't believe this is happening and I'm sitting there and I'm just I'm looking at the Monitor I, get my headset on and already goes you go yeah I'm good and ready. I'm like, yeah, I'm ready and Arty looks at me Guinea, nine I go yeah and he goes you gotta say action. Action. Like a fucking idiot and I'm watching the scene play out and then Jimmy and Alex are improving and they're improving after the scene and hardy already leans in getting you good ago. Yeah he goes they're gonNA. Keep talking. Yeah. Yeah. They're improbably he goes they're going to keep talking until you say cut Jesus Christ. So like the two things in eight-year-old. But other than that. It was it was it was who that was a fun per se but but it was crazy I it's it's the most taxing of any occupation of overhead and I have so much respect for anybody that works on a film especially a director that. You mentioned a couple of the stars that are in this thing who are they? The two is Jimmy o Yang is he the young kid? So Jimmy Yang everything that happens in the film happened to me. So once Jimmy hits the road at semi-autobiographical, it's all the experiences have happened to me. So Jimmy Yang plays like a younger version of May Alex moffitt plays the Feature Act and then cedric the entertainer place. The headliner minutes wouldn't you Cummings Alive Slesinger Kathleen. Madigan Angela Johnson Bill Burr Ken Junk Tom Cigar sleepiest Bars Neal Brennan Roy. Wood. Jr. Orlando Boat, and Chris Border. Quite, a few I know missing some too so. But that's the cast. Yeah sounds really. Did they give you the respect that you deserve as director I mean I hope that comes off right like did these guys all go ahead let's just do go do burn or did they derive on set and go? Hey, there he's our director and we're GONNA we're? GonNa Listen to support your there wasn't anybody that that gave Manny flack and I think most comics you know just came in and did the everybody knew what would happen in a radio scenario? You know so Russell Peters Elisa singer books, whalen they've been on this morning show much like you have in so they didn't need any directing. It was like look you've had a shit time on radio visit. Everybody kind of knew their thing and. I will say that I think most people think because there's so many comedians in the film that it must have been an Improv fest. It really the only Improv that was done was maybe Jimmy stand up at the beginning his his last set I wrote. And then Alex's set and cedric said and everything else everybody pretty much stayed on book it was it was pretty Nice Dynasty was nothing. That's That's That's right. That's Right everybody was a joy to work with I can't say there was any ego or any of that stuff you you didn't have anybody funding it in most of the comics came in and just did one day. So it was who's a pretty easy. All right. Because based on some of the names you listen, I can't believe you I. Believe me. I thought the same one before the day. I was like Oh God. Please let this go well but. Was Great and I'll tell you the film was a blessing because Jimmy Leong was the lead and he showed up, he was prepared. He never had to go over his lines I it just like that makes such a huge difference especially for somebody like me who's never done it before and you're trying to make your day to keep the budget. So I really, oh, Jimmy, Yang this garden ferry. At cost at cost? Yes. Course it costs. You can't afford to give giving those things away. That's right. He's good and everything by the way Jimmy o Yang so that I look forward to seeing that and then turning it off were those other names pop up but I? Splash. To certain scenes yeah. Steve Burns here he's taking time away from promoting this jazz show on other networks. and. Shows Good Sentence Jim Alex moffat improvised. Conversation once in a while just like I just did right then. It's really great. Just stared at me like what the fuck are you saying? So. Here's what happened in the break as I said before we went to break. Forgotten. About the trivia question. So I I immediately contacted Oliver Griffin. Pardo. WHO's upwards of eleven hundred square feet away from me and. I don't know if that's accurate I. Don't have houses work I know that that's a small house and my house is not that tiny bigger in that state. And he brought any question, the topic in question, and then he he barged in moments ago and said, don't use that one I got a better one. So he was not because he was not happy with his first one. So let me give you. The topic and Steve It'd be betting two zero in twenty. Five's you're going to write that down. You not reveal that bet or your answer until I ask. You. And wait a second I sure. Hope that he doesn't Okay. threesome getting three separate e mails. I've just been told. Okay here it is the topic. The topic is drink up. Drink up. There's your topic and Now I'm sober twenty one years. So my son knows I may know a lot about booze. Days. go with that. All right. That's my I got my bed. All right everybody make your bet and then I will ask the question but it got betting drink up is the topic burned Acura bed in you got yours I. got it in. Yep written nerves in we're in. All right. Here's the question. Here is the question the beverage company seven up. which originally called Bib label litigated a lemon lime soda. What significance does the name seven up have to put it another way you dumb Fox. Why was the name change of seven up instead of something else Hint. Me This because I read it and I think it's only fair that we all get. It has something to do with the ingredients. PS This still isn't a great question. Really want to hear that other. Kind of due to. the beverage companies seven up was originally called Label Litigated Lemon, Lime Soda. What significance does the name seven up have or to put in it another way was the name change to seven up instead of something else hint that has something to with ingredients now obviously, it can't be as simple as. Seventy degrees. Attempted to write that. Yeah. I I'm not gonNA argue that was my going to be my answer until ups Everyone's free to answer this. However, they want you to don't don't feel like you need to change anything Jeez I. I don't even have a clue. I. Don't have a clue. I might have to hear your answers to No it's not fair. Work, no, you're not allowed to do that Wow Wow. Tough on or or read. The seventh. Version. Okay. I got it I literally I feel like I did the equivalent after you guys were making fun of the answer I wrote down in permanent marker. I feel like I was I was applying for a job which says last name first name how you put my first name my last name. Okay. I didn't get this job. Steve. To follow up on that because I just had for lots of medical paperwork where I did it, and then you don't you just feel like the dumbest man alive it's like, yeah he couldn't figure that out you. Dumb, ass. and point every every now is last name I first name Lake. So why do we still insist on going Jimmy Pardo? Dumb agree with you. It's then you gotTa Cross it out. So your paper look sloppy. The worst. When's the last time you applied for job by the way? Steve. Oh. God I the last job I had was a waiter in New York City at the. At the Greek restaurant seventy-second in Columbus and I remember my last day work because I was I was starting to colleges and I was able to quit that job. So it it felt great. But that was the last time. I actually applied for anything and Go against Kobe keeps going I'm going to Home Depot be. You'RE GONNA have it your way. That K.. K. Lounge so you want to be very careful in that area. Steve, are you going on the road at all or are you a guy that's doing the drive in movie theater gigs or you're doing any of the UH? Hunkering Down with the family, you the movie coming out why risk getting sick I've done all the hot spots. I've done Miami Phoenix San Antonio, and Vegas art get out there. Let's roll the dice I got two kids and a wife, and I'll go down in flames. Did those and it was I'll tell you the B. be the scariest. The status was because nobody's flying hotels Bacon Kinda it was Kinda Nice perfect for flying traveling. But when George Floyd when everything hit like within forty eight hours I'm in Miami and I'm doing crowd work to warm up the crowd I hadn't been on stage for awhile. So Lot of crowd work and I'm talking to a black couple in time and getting to know them or whatever, and you know there was it was nice and then literally the next guy talked to his white guy and the complete opposite end and I go, sir, what are you doing? He's like I'm a cop and you could just feel the air leave the room and the back of my head and Michael, you can't cut the blue wire just yet. We got we got a finesse away into this and as soon as it happened, I was like. them to a shot together. And I made some jokes, Ping Pong back and forth they did shot together and it was one of those things where I was like I'll never forget this moment as a comic because it was just one of those nice redemptive sweet moments you you have when you do crowd work because ninety percent of the time, it's not the number so. That was that was a little touch and go for GIN hair breezes. Yeah. Pretty wild but it was it felt good. To. Be Honest I thought you were kidding when you said you hit those hot spots you literally went to Vegas you to Phoenix. So Yeah, look you know just like everybody else I think there is that time where you think okay the first month or two you're going to hunker down watch all the movies and then you dipping into savings you like. How long is she going on for an offer comes in it's like I gotTA. fucking. Keep the lights on somehow and that and thank God those things came through when they did. But now it's just you know I it seems like clubs are slowly starting to open, which is nice. There's a pocket full of them. Yeah, I think the good news is like when I went to Phoenix for example, you drive up, they walk you in. You have no interaction with anybody and walk on stage do the show walk right off go to the cargo, the hotel I, I I think talked to one person Management. That was kind of it. So it's kind of like Nice not to have to talk. But that's part of up. Now right is standing there when it's over maybe got merged maybe you want to beat the fans that come out and so to take that away, they're kind of takes away a little bit of the experience of it does it not or is it to? Especially, when when you run into somebody that's like after the show they. Didn I you know this is weird but there's no meet-and-greet and then somebody rushes the stage like I've waiting eight years to see you please get a picture and it's like, and so I'm like I'll stand here and watch just a cell away from the background. Right? We'll keep our distance. So we did that and then you walk up to the car and then this one woman who grabbed me and put army took a picture of what am I going to do I you know I it happened. So I guess. But if I had respiratory issues if I was you know Obviously quite older. I certainly maybe would not put myself in that situation but. We'll be safe for love God Steve. I don't like anything that I just heard sounds. All particularly. Yeah. You don't cry because. I've seen you do it. It's not. Really what caught my attention? Not your bag well, I remember when the film when the film I got a press release you said this is great. You should stick with directing. Did say that you found your caller I. Think it's best for you to be behind the camera and I've been saying that for years and the people t s really thought that that's right. Yeah. So they were up. Here cannon refers to to Sullivan and son he was says it's TBS is first drama. recanted. So funny but he can't find it publicly. That's the thing. For the people to appreciate but He says funny things. Gary Kanye. When he's not busy, he's he's going on the path of taking your shirt off on stage for no reason whatsoever. So Let's stop that Steve talked about it telling the. Question with no resume. confirmed. Firmed gary she left very hard the other day on facebook, but I didn't have the balls to respond to it publicly. So I had to, I, had a text that I enjoyed his joke. trolls nonstop. Yes. Roles nonstop and it's so funny because he's one of those guys that will do it to no end and there's people that don't know how to take it. They're like who the fuck fuck him and if they just spent five minutes with you know he just classic ball buster but. To the wrong person like for example, we did those tours with own Benjamin. He. Gary would constantly shit on me constantly should on Roy amid and Ellen and anytime all in would tell a joke that bombed in the van going be airport in the van going into the hotel. Shake Owen get the piano and Owen could not fucking take it and there were times where I thought Owens going to kill him tonight But Gary, once she knows it will just keep needling you. Yeah He. And I think he should back off from because I. Think we all know as we talked about the last time you were on the show seems like see stable guy. So this is not the guy that you don't want to be pushing his buttons. No, yeah, you don't WanNa. I actually had a conversation with somebody at somebody at Conan. Post me leaving and Gary taken that spot somebody had a contact me and say, well, you know this guy because. He likes to bust everybody's balls and maybe he shouldn't be doing that. Well he? He had a long leash on our show. For example when? As you know Jimmy when you do the roll call right for the Sitcom you you come out introduced the cast members before the taping actually starts to those don't know and he would introduce us and he'd always say something incredibly shit about me. He'd say you know this guy he just graduated from the Rob Schneider, Academy of Dramatic Arts Are Star Steve Burns I just non stop things like that and because. I like it so much I. Let him get away with it and there were times where. Other people just for like. Are you sure this is kind of on mytalk it's fine. He's get labs, but he would shit on a so bad from the grandstand to the cast members during tapings that we would. We put a microphone up by the end for us and we would go back and forth and the audience always had gary side they would. Turn on us. fucking show hassles but they loved him so much Greasy I. I've never seen any evidence of an audience. Loving but I hear what you're saying. Kerry Kennedy's reminders been on our show once. Let's run the homeless chicken with everybody as as he burns. Here's the movie coming out the opening act sound Great Jimmy O. Yang. Another a bunch of characters that. Weren't doing spots at the comedy store that night. So. When it's really got posted I saw combat somebody said that made me laugh piece at a cast. Casting directors. We put comics in it and it just said, yes and said which one it said comics. was, pretty good it's fun All right. Let's check in with the pop culture reaches the number not funny weather desk up in Van Nuys California Gary. What's the weather? Like it is today Sir I went outside with my dogs earlier and it was a little toasty is getting more. Right. Now, well, let's it's only ninety one. It's still. Fifty. That's true. Gary, what tap into the you can share with us may also mean Elliott and Matt Myself Steve Burn. Anything happened over the weekend and your life other than watching the news and not wanted to to throw a hammer through it. TV I mean. Yes. So in the interest to becoming a better gay, I placed an order with. With Andrew. Christian underwear. It was a grab bag situation so you don't get to choose what you receive. Okay. So I know you delivered that is if we all know what company that is. We are not gay. So we don't know from your underpants company. It's a very well known in the community for underwear. I'm sorry. Do Gay people where different underwear. Forfeiting sexy under loud. You know briefs. which ended up getting, you gotTa Thong they sent me a thong. Down in point my toes while I listen to this. I did try it. You did you put the on I did. There's a song I guess you could play to go along with. bacchus. What? Is it comfortable to thaw? It can't be I thought immediately with my head is I have a master's degree. Master people would still be sexy Garin go take that away from the. Master. That's yeah. It's not for me. I don't need that. There's I would rather just wear giacobbe. When you buy the Thong. Come with a map directing you to the nearest truckstop inch. And Tattoos. Those are fair questions, Garrod I want you to answer them. Yes, I did actually Oh that's nice. Now, I'm gonNA show these off. Are they on your body or you? No No. I don't think these are ever going to get war. I don't even know what to do with these. Okay. Here we go from what's name of the company again Andrew Christian and your Christian Nautica not a sponsor non-serb Christie. These you put your little. Questions. Where the other way around I suppose but that seems like a strange idea you put a backward. You've got easy access. Yeah. I just I just. Don't know guys I mean that looks to. Maybe I'm revealing much looks big enough for the Dick and Balsa go through get the whole the. Because otherwise it might be tight. I've never. This will you put them on a show us how the? We're going to be in a completely different category of show if I do that. With That you guys collectively would do that. The loser has to wear that. No. Just curious. If there's not one of the four of us are willing to be that open. We're not, that desperate for laughs Steve. That I I'd rather be cancelled. The problem is they're there wouldn't really be payoff because we're not gonNA see it. It would just basically be like, yes I'm wearing them now and it's very uncomfortable. So. I and we'd have to take the person's word for it which I guess I trust you guys enough to follow through if you put it on but I would never show it. Joy I mean yeah. You don't really get the the the audience doesn't get anything that. Put It on. Let's see how the. What Gary? Say. Did they all say slave? No I just now noticed that that says that as I held up. That's Lot more sense. Now, show that again I didn't see that show those I didn't notice nasty. That's directors I right there. I don't know if he's solder recognize this pair. Is that Hashtag? Slave. No no, but it does go both directions. Tell what it says no matter. Standing I. Guess Guess. You see HR. We'll send you the link. You don't have to panic right now to stay in the moment. Garrett I did a bunch of never not funny phone calls over the weekend on Saturday and One of them was a gentleman named neo from the UK who To, let me know about his lifestyle said in a in a wonderful English accent I which I wish. I could do I wanted to guarantee a lot. I thought a t shirt with the using the sales lot funds that says guarantee lot with. Something for our listeners to chase of that sounds amazing. I. Loved it I. Loved. This guy was great. All the calls on Saturday were great But I was a fan of. Garin lot now. Do you think that would outsell lazy? Queen because we've already made a show just for Garin. I'm willing to do another one but I feel like if. I. Was Lazy Queen I don't think think six people buy it. So let's not oversell the very specialized. It's for it's for gay middle aged men who love horror movies and never not funny they were not. Really very small picture I gotTa Say I. I actually I disagree a little bit because I think wow, it has this meaning that we've established for it. You could just be a fan of Garin that's good point and that's the point. Okay. Oh. Yeah. Like the the dog pound and Arsenio it's I love. But we're looking at it. We'll talk to Mario over there at one color, and now what's it called now? Famous lemonade. Limits. Well, good for you. Gary congratulations on those underpants look for to hear more about them. Now. Is that say is this one of those clubs where you're GONNA get new underpants once a month now? No, no no, it was just like this Halloween. Special doing like here's A. Secret three things are going to get and asked me who my favorite superhero was and what like Queen. I. would. Dress up ads or something which Brian May obviously, and then the other end up what was Batman and then I said Dolly Pardon and nothing I got is related to either of them. Dolly. Parton. lobsters underpants. Song. Jelena's about those pants. I must have forgotten, but you never saw the best. Here. About a wonder where they saw the base called the nine to five. Nine inches to five inches. Comedy. You can't wear those. I'm. Korean side got. Jesus Christ you're not be worse off than me Steven that's just based conversation. Yeah. So I'm director. Something so I can be I, can throw them away around. It. You don't have to tell me. I'm sure this stand. When you're thinking I yell at these guys weekly basis. Question about the underwear. For like a special occasion like when you go to like rage on a Thursday night like is that when you bust those bad boys out like Is that like you know Monday, we're going to work at. I'll just where I have to imagine it's gotta be for full summer some. Festival thing that's going on I would I don't know what about Steve's idea Gary where you wearing, you're just wearing them out you're going to target and you've got a secret man going. What kind of what kind of charges that will give me it would get? Well, it's to give you some charge because you're you're GONNA be rubbing right up against your pants nobody knows. This is going on. We got some edge think. Do. Come in through the curtains. Continuous coverage I to look at the phone the doctor please understand why I have a question for Darren while Jimmy answers the phone you have I assume you've gotten much closer with your roommates over the last six months you guys have been stuck together. was there any? Did, you did you did you do give those guys show any of those people? Let Them See Did. You do a little fashion show for them with this this new underwear. Yes you did did show off I did show off the other one's a little bit because you wear this for them. Yeah. Okay. All right. Let's because what do you think is like I? Don't. Know what the response really was. They weren't into it without really. All right and you can't really return underwear. Like. Try them on you. It's not like there's a thirty day guarantee you know I. I don't think I have the. Now I'm not trying to be Donna myself or anything, but I definitely don't have the confidence to pull up a thong. I don't think anybody I don't I don't get it. So it's like I like honestly the physics of it on a man I don't even get I, I don't really understand it I don't either. I don't. Look at it. This. Take, a look at it, see what your roommate's got to see. The let's bring the show to a new level. Let's just designed with that I. Don't understand the Thong. Let's take a look at this thing. I was a lot more sales but I guarantee that t shirt. Guarantee Lot underpants. Maybe that's where we go. MAYBE THAT'S A. Well. That's Great Garin brother completely off topic that was A. robo-call of some sort Last night we got a call and you know you know I always put on a horrible southern accent whenever I. They go this I. Go I go. There's a bad time. Right so this. This is a bad time right now we're about to have dinner. My wife made as a Turkey. And I don't know why that was important and then. Oliver in the background went PA. The cat got out the other day. That was a little scared little skit. We did for the person and I don't know at some point she hung up. I don't know how much you'll see enjoyed. But at some point I was like, hello, it's yours gone so. Took Danielle pointed out. How does she know you're doing a bit like why did she doesn't matter? Aren't you give up on that really Turkey in the cat got out. I mean, yeah. I just means you guys really sold it. So like the comedy of the of the whole piece came through. Carl and Rob Reiner night we are right in that wheelhouse if only Jesus Kristof only maybe she was selling vegetarian food box. These people eat Turkey forget them Oh you know what? I don't know what she wanted. That's a good point. It could have been a vegetarian food box. Which That, Jimmy Welcome. Can't wear it only shit. Why don't you give me your Trivia answer if you would sir. All Right you did I read the question yeah. My guess is that it's made from the juice of seven limes and lemons. was that one of the the BLURBS underneath those underpants? What? All right. So I guess we'll find out but that boy that's a vague answer. See I get the logic of that. That seems like the kind of thing that in the olden times, they would use a marketing thing like this as seven whole lemons and limes in it as if that's. All right Garin I, accept it now that match explain your answer. Something good. I will give you a lot of luck with that and these new underpants I'm proud of you it. Takes a lot to get out and get new underpants and so you did it. Did it. Thank you. Sir Fills good. Good for you, and it's the best time to do it to the pandemic. Get some new underpants walk probably around the apartment and smart. Home. Let me check in with the cinnamon stick keys over in Poems California. I saw it. Yesterday had to drop something graphics department. At Eight it also dropping something off of the goodwill donate to goodwill and as I was pulling up, they were putting up the sign no more donations today come back tomorrow and I was like I just pulled up pointed at the sign and. No. No. Go nogo I missed it by. Fifteen seconds. How many times are you going to drop off your merch? Are you gary cannon with that kind of bullshit. That is always I always say this about that whenever I see my album at a thrift store or to US record store I'm both insulted and flattered I. I'm I'm excited that I see it somewhere like hey. Hey. Wait a minute. That'd be. Things he said. It's Oh boy, that's a that's a trip. I didn't even think about what it costs play. There you go. To be was just like. Somebody didn't want this anymore and didn't even want to sell it just gave it away. Great. Hey Ma bring this over the goodwill. Some other asshole enjoy those guys. Were just throw it away. Right somebody else might enjoy this. There you go. Hey Mark, do you want to hear a guy talked to a crowd where we can't see any of the audience members? We understand any of the jokes? No, our upbringing of goodwill. Elliot. What happened over the weekend over there in palms anything we need to know about behind video village there. Nothing I let me guarantee there's nothing you need to know. But I will say this for the first time since this crisis started, I got a hours of sleep. In fact congratulations I'm serious. Yeah. In fact. You know hopefully you didn't you didn't notice but. I almost over slept. I notice. Yeah I just I had I had like twenty minutes or so to to get ready. So obviously, we're at home we're not driving the I got some close actually managed to take a shower or two. Around. Well. You know I use the show. I use the show as like an indicator of this is a shower day. But I woke up I looked up I saw my favorite number eleven eleven. and. My my clock I set my clock ahead so that so that if I do wake up and see the clock I, freak out like I'm late. But I was very lucky that I I woke up in time why? Not Get more than eight hours. Do you have kids or no? No No. I just look all the stress and everything that's been going on. It's just been thrown me off and so so I might take a nap in the middle of the day like a cat. or you know I, just only get four or five hours just because I'm I'm worried about. Everything. That's going to happen even though I have zero control over any of it, which I suppose that makes it worse sure. So So yeah. So but I and I woke up and I actually I felt like I got a good night's sleep to. Hold on your clocks at eleven eleven when you woke up how far ahead is sick because we start at eleven yeah. It's. Between Twenty seven and thirty four minutes I'm never entirely sure. Puts an insane amount of time to be a head, and also you know that it set ahead. So why do you get freaked out by it because and and I'm not the only person has this theory? When I, when I wake up and I look at the clock in those five seconds. I forget that I have done that. So that wakes me up uh-huh and then I go. Oh okay. Okay right. The clock is wrong. I have time I'm going to be fine. Yeah I may have to start setting alarm though because Because of all of a sudden, you're rip Van Winkle we can't to take that chance I. I. Agree with that but fortunately, it all worked out but but yeah so. You. Don't see like your game today did. You see with little sluggish. See how he does on the Trivia question then we'll know. A great point I will tell you this that on Thursday night when the our president tweeted out that he has the COVID. Did stay up until like a crazy. Three or three thirty in the morning watching the news and refreshing twitter. Then I finally went. It's four thirty in the morning on the east coast nothing's happening. You Dumb Fuck. It just was I stayed up too late that night to and I don't know why they you know just the cable news just regurgitates the same thing over and over again. But I felt the need to watch it to see if something crazy was gonNA happen I guess. It I immediately when when they get Anderson Cooper to show up at two thirty in the morning East Coast. Times like. Something fucking going down. So I've I've I've fall for that casting I'm not. I'm not. I'm not going to watch Chris Cooper gets the call a two in the morning he looks at the phone. Okay. I gotta get and he gets his best Andrew Christians he throws. Off The shooting you're right. There was a joke for you. Back. Yeah. Come on man this guy's a director the respect. You just reminded me that trump is leaving while to re today at six thirty PM. Oh, wait. That's. Breaking News. Yeah. Yeah he just he just tweeted it sorely a little nobody say no to this motherfucker. He's supposed to be a room away from other human beings because he's got a virus that people get. God, Damn. Yeah He. He says don't be afraid of COVID. Kim and fuck anybody that listens to them. There I've said it going to give him the benefit of the doubt because I'm assuming that every person who goes in there is in full has matt and all that kind of stuff he and he's like don't do that. I don't need you to do that No-no from it's for me Sir it's what they require. Blah Blah Blah. But Bad? As, you're GONNA have to bring them back into stretcher because he's a dumb fuck. Five days later, it hitching again by based on all the reports well good luck to the him and the trump failing What does it tell you by the way when Donald trump junior saying, hey, my dad's acting crazy. We gotta do something about this. I didn't see that he's come out and he apparently he's battling with the family. He's like we gotTa do something about dad he's not acting right and they're like he's fine like. Used Johnny cocaine with. Sensible had after all of the other things we've seen donald trump do that. This is when he's acting crazy. That's that's madness. LOVES HIS FATHER SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DONALD TRUMP JUNIOR I think I think he's proven that he loves his father point. Good point and his father is acting crazy. And they say that medication that you don't you're not thinking straight could could explain him going on that joyride. Even. Maybe that's what junior was saying like he's not supposed to be doing this like what? It is at the end of the day. We're all assholes, but like to your point Elliott, he is my dad and I don't want him to die. Can we give him the proper care and keep them in a room? How crazy would it be if you left Walter Reed, at six thirty and it's six, forty five he went right to that church imposed. A. Bit He loves doing. Don't be afraid of. all right I apologize for getting there in the middle but the was justified. Just great show. Elliot. All, right. Well, congratulations on that sleep. We're proud of you. Wish. Tonight maybe you maybe you to for two little guy, let's hope it happens Baker Sir. what you gotTa Guess. I do. Strap in because it's going to take a second for me to read. All right. Hang on. Let me give you the question again. Let me refresh our question. This is the beverage company seven was originally called Bib Label Litigated Lemon Lime Soda. What significance is the name up have or to put it another way why was the name change to seven up of something else hint it has something to with the ingredients. PS This is still not a great question. All right. So I'm focusing on the fact that in later years seven up he was crisp and clean no caffeine they were. It's clear. It's all this kind of stuff. Yup. So my answer is this. They dropped off the last seven ingredients that would normally appear in a cola. which were mostly colors. So the the beverage is the seventh ingredient up. Could you please say that again I, I I I, think it was the forty minute mark that I. Were saying I feel like I just got eight hours a good sleep. You gotTa Elliott could've just said tld L. I'm not getting it right this week. I I'M I. I think it might be true. So. Does it all series is a Elliott I. I got a text and I thought it was from Dr panicked and turns out it was from A. The people that send me A. Record text every day. Oh God. What were they trying offer you today Good question I'll tell you if you give me a the Neville brothers to which I immediately responded. nope. We have a nice voices I, like that I think it's fine. Okay but not enough to not enough to two sides of that. You don't need violent you don't even Neville. Oh no maybe. Think about how The of that voice on Vinyl though imagine it. You know what? You GonNa Miss. ME. Let me let me take you. Literally here and You can hear the mole on his face, Jimmy, how dare you? See. One of the guys that died in the last Oh maybe that sounds familiar. Yeah Ivan Neville Szeged that gentleman's name now Aaron novel. Ivan Neville let somebody I don't know is American multi instrumentalist Ivan Yeah. Thank you. Is he one of the brothers is one of the Neville brothers? Oh, he's he's his son. I've been is Aaron Neville. Son Yeah she is she great in the family why not? They got those voices? Let's use them. What? He's instrumentalist fairly. Clearly. That'll listen when people talk. Son You don't have the voice. My brothers pick up a violin because this isn't happening. Did Aaron Die Garin no Aaron is still alive at Blah good to have them out there. All right. So please give your answer again. please. I didn't hear it. So so basically, the idea is they took the from the seven degrees up because all the other ones were artificial colors. Oh okay colors. So you're kind of just saying what we all laughed about initially, which is that the answer is it's only got seven ingredients no no, I'm not saying that. Because it could have thirty ingredients. It's just they dropped off the colors which are the seven greeting Oh. Okay. So you're saying the last seven and I thought. Okay. Got It. Got It. So because it's the seventh and green ups, that's why it's seven up. Okay he is. The cloud just go over Steve Burns House. Yes. You're no longer in the light find your light Steve. I. Go you got it. Did you do theater as a kid or were you. Did you like at school well you. Was a hockey kid. So I basically played on two teams pretty much. While my youth summers I played tennis and baseball, and that's Kinda. Yeah. I did theatre for like I think a summer that I liked it. You know it was kind you. Disappear Mind Your Business. Yes, I didn't do hockey. Played some baseball not well. Did Theater probably was pretty good at that and then forgot all those skills and wanted to stand up, and then for act there seems to be going well. Kim. I'm always I'm always surprised that when when a comic didn't do any sort of theater and stuff like it feels like. You know you'd want to perform and you WANNA get that out of your. Out of your system like I need to be on stage or whatever, and so I'm always weirded out when a comics like no I never did anything to my first open MIC like Jesus Christ. What Yeah I. Can't State University and never got cast in one play Oh that should have been my first inkling. What do I disagree with you? I say look I had a t three seasons of a TV show assholes. So I win that's what I said. Yeah I remember when I was there drew Carey was the homecoming Marshall of the parade which I thought was really cool. He never even thinking I I never thought of stand up or anything, but I just thought well, how cool is that and then he came to this bar that I worked at called raise and he bought everybody drinks you put everything on on his tab that night I you know fucking two story college bar months he made that announcement you just saw everybody bucking used to. The bar to drink up. So That was like my my I kind of like celebrity I saw when I was in college was drew Carey which I thought was kind of cool. I think what I love about that story because you you hear those stories about him after he got the Sitcom was he on the Sitcom was happening Steve I don't know I think it was coming to the tail end or or may end. Yeah. I think it was still on actually. Yeah. So those are the stories you hear about drew Carey of Drew Carey showed up in Vegas and bought everybody a room like he just. You know the whole cast gets crews and yeah he's just emily's yes and their families right? He just seems like a really great guy. I met him one time. He was so drunk that was the conversation was horrible and That's not a surprise. He buys bars drinks. Not Talking out of school so he was This was in Vegas like at three in the morning then yeah, we were all hammered. including, drew in doors working with who was friends with him but say this hang I withdrew and. I did not hang out with drew. I was at a table near drew is how they yeah. That went for me All right. Well, Elliot I. Wish you a lot of luck with that. With that answer it sounds convoluted and wrong. I actually have a weird amount of confidence in it so but I appreciate your perspective. I would think from a marketing standpoint there would it something that would be very easy to understand. So When when we have to ask you. Minus the seven but seven up from there and I think. Steve is that Jimmy? Can You? Can you read out the name of the company with the name of the company was before I'd be more than happy to do that. Elliott, please stand by repeating please stand by because often pepper corporated or something. Yeah. Gibbs lettuce. Bitter Lettuce you're right be able to let us Associated Soda cates. Bib Label. Litigated. Lemon Lime Soda. So. I appreciate Steve Your perspective. I stand by. But they changed they changed but they made the right choice. I liked it. I liked the idea of what have we all ordered it that way. Like a big label litigated. I can't even say it and I'm reading it. What were they see? Someone suing them. At. All Times crazy. I from understand it's the Cola and I'm going to look into that further. Sure. Use the restroom real quick. So we'll take a break perfect timing Steve, we're GONNA take a break Take a break we'll be back with more St. Bernard is dry bladder right after this. Hazmat Guys Matt here are some dates for you. Steve is on twitter at Pat Steve Byrne live. That's B. Y. R. N. E.. Spelling of burned Steve Byrne live on twitter and Steve. Berm. Live Dot Com as his website. You can go there to find out more about the opening act that's movie that he wrote and directed, which is coming out October sixteenth on. And select theaters. If you have a theater near you, that is open look for their otherwise checkout apple movies or Amazon, or wherever you go for vod type product. It's got Jimmy Yang it's got Alex Moffat has got cedric the entertainer and a million other stand up comedians so check that out on October sixteenth you're gonNA enjoy it a lot. You can pre-order it now actually but check it out on the sixteenth opens also on October sixteenth Jimmy's going to be flappers the zoom room. 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There where are your mask dumb asses and or yet I I'm told that it may show up at a driving and So that's a good way to say it to safety of your own car bring your own food have a little picnic right there in the car and enjoy yourself I'm enjoying the as I've thought about many times during the various pop drive ins that we've been to over the last few months. Most. Recently, we saw that Armageddon, we saw that last week as we talked about, the Bruce Willis Comedy. Let's check him in maps keeping things lockdown over there. Never not funny headquarters in. Sherman Oaks California. Steve Burma's just distracted by a plane going overhead Steve What was going on. There was something above the Sorry about that. Well, yeah it was a plane. Disappointing move on with your little show. Now Steve Are you outside because your family is inside, you don't want to disturb them or. Is it just as just the best. Internet. The Internet's good it just I just like being outside. I just it's a nice day hours. Figured I myself with the boys, right? Yeah. Right with the boys. You don't get how the kids Stevie say I think you said this night. A, daughter. A son is five eight and five, and are there obviously home doing the the zoom? Zoom School. Yeah. All of it So it's you know it's crazy just before everything went to Shit. My daughters at the age where before she was kind of blase about everything because I do the road maybe forty plus weeks a year and she got emotional. She said I I'm so tired of you leaving I'd love for you to stay home. Can you stop doing this and then like literally the next week I come home hits, dates or canceled. What fucking Fountain did you throw? Up. The whole universe, right. So I've been home she got her wish that's for sure and it is to that point by the way Steve I remember when Oliver got to that right around that same age where it was like when the real really little they don't really know any different and then it that little switch flick flick the switch, and it's like, hey, why aren't you here? You know as much as other fathers seemed to be and. I said you mind Your Business you're lucky. You have a roof over your head. To go out and talk about my penis for a living you mind your. But that is that is the great part about. It, not that there's a great part of covert, but the one of the upsides is yes, being kind of being forced to. Interstate home and be more present and be here every day and so on and so forth. So. but God it could end not because I want to be away from my family in some but I WANNA get back out there man get back out in the world and I want to go to a movie movie theater popcorn. That's what I wanted to. Go, is anybody who's any movie theater opened right just go buy that popcorn and be doing that. That's something happening That's a good question like the late haven't popcorn day. Going, get some popcorn. I'll even overpay for it. I'm happy overpay for even over the overpass already overpaying yeah. You're definitely going over pay for it, but I don't know if they would bother to just to make the popcorn for you. You know actually I think one of the theaters that my family goes to back home. Was Open for concessions. drive-thru through drive up in up you popcorn for your movie night or whatever. So some are are doing, I don't know if anybody who aren't here is I. Don't I would imagine. Let's look into that year. Look into that email me later that information. and. Can you also send me a picture of you wearing those underpants? Those, things to me via email I'd appreciate it. Dutchman mattdoyle magazine mentioned he's over there Hq Matt had a nice family weekend as well. It went by the BELKNAP house editor dropped something off and you guys had a movie night Saturday night writer Saturday night right well, just just my daughter and her best friend from preschool got together and watched something the projector outside and they watch twilight and. I can guarantee no one else was interested in that although I mean maybe at least would have watched it with them but I certainly didn't want to Charlie has no interest. So yeah, that was a girl. That is A. Did, you use the screen, the provided screen It looked pretty cool. Yeah. I like that I like that's green at that's a cool idea. We actually attached it to the we have one of those pop up Whatever those ten by ten umbrella things what are those things called easy up I don't know what the call. Like a canopy yeah. Like it's got the four legs you know you see him at the swap meet or whatever So we just attached it to that and it was great perfect I actually stretch. It was like it was designed for that size thing. So is it fit perfectly and was great? got that I can rent to the side of the garage out here. And it's nice in that projector edit the kids they watched on Friday night. Oliver. And his friends watched minority report. And then at one point I popped out there and they weren't watching it and they all realized that a little too creepy. The kids did not care for it Out of doors. Yeah, that one's a little more adult that I feel like the themes and ideas are maybe a little pre-act that was what the consensus was when they stopped watching you know. Because then they were able to hang out and have fun. Yeah. That's what's funny about kids getting meals. They're not allowed to the they can't see each other at school and and hang out really a normal ways. But so to get together and watch a movie, it's almost like don't you just want to talk like. Of Your made that point. He's like we got because the other time they did they watched. I'M GONNA get this wrong and. Moore's at the golf one you happy goal. And he's like something like that where we could talk over it and it's not GonNa ruin the movie minority report, we couldn't do that. So, I think next time they're going to be watching this opening act I think is what? For next time except for that. Opening. Acting Schindler's list like. Any any any thirteen year old we want to see those sure. Yeah, and there's nothing really happening where you can. You can certainly talk over either those movies. Steve Byrne will get to ever GONNA get Steve's answer just a bit Let's check back in with. Matt. GimMe your answer to this crazy seven question. Yeah Well, you know I immediately thought of I. My first thought was I wish this was a question about Dr Pepper because remember they used to have that thing it was like ten two and four, and that was rough in reference to like to stay regular, you're supposed to drink it three times a day at ten am two PM and four PM. So that's I. Don't remember that. Yeah that that was the original because originally Dr Pepper was made with Plums or something whatever rooms. prunes yeah. I always thought tend to enforce supposed to drive right to and your cock at Fort Trade. Put that underwear. Thank you Steve. You're very kind man, but on your sister Christians in up your Cochran. So. So anyway, my my mind was going along with the like the fact that soda was weirdly marketed as being something healthy. In the early days of the early part of the twentieth century. So my answer is that it seven up refers to the seven vitamins and minerals contained. Oh that's I don't think that's a bad answer to I. Think it's a good one. Yes. I kind of do. Nobody saw that twist coming at the end there maybe even including me. was like you got a weird moment where you could. You couldn't do the job you had to be honest I actually I don't I don't think that's a bad guess, but we'll find out together. I check in with the director Steve Burns area to also to stand up comedy. He's got the movie the. Opening act coming out with that Jimmy O. Yang Fund young actor also stand up comedy. and then he's got the Thursday night lineup at the comedy store is the rest of the cast their and guessing that maybe some real actors do some extra Rocca I work. On this thing, we'll find out when we watch. Burn Here, Steve, do you have a guest. So obviously have a guess what is your guests for the seven up question I put down and twenty five bucks at has seven ingredients and that I was listening to the description and I thought it was it was in reference to truncating. The title of what it was originally called then. The fifth time I heard that there's only six. Yes. things associated bad and I thought Oh Jeez so I'll just stick with seven ingredients. The description tells you probably won't be. I'm Yup Yup. I, mean somebody had to do it right? Well, you know what that Steve Burns everybody's going to do and it's Bernie I mean there's no question about it. That's burnings birdie burning. You. At all smoke a to give me therapies doing. St St Bernard was a baseball player that would be his nickname Bernie, and they all think it's interesting. Bernie was doing good two three innings and then Bernie lost it. Yeah good for you. You put a why at the end of it rick was pitching a fucking no, no, and then Bernie talk to. See that's proof that Steve's to play baseball he knows the terms. By the way, condolences to my fellow White Sox fans for the white sox not getting out of the first round of the playoffs was heartbreaking. They had a lot of opportunities. do I think the manager should be fired? I'm not one of these guys but my answer is, yes, I, do I don't I do not think this manager can get us the next level and I'll tell newest face through a third party. My guest by the way is the. I didn't know how to word this, but there is there's the proper wording on this when something has a number like cove in nineteen was discovered in in two, thousand, nine, hundred, I'm GonNa say that this formula is the seventh formula. Like thirty like W. Ford again like something like that. This is the seven fifty seven. Yes. They've landed on the seventh one was we got it yeah. Put it up good ended up Chris and clean and have some Jamaican sell it for us. Let's go. So that's what I'm going with the seventh version. All right. Let me read it to you. Steve Burns here guarantees here. His underpants are here Elliott I'm just proud of us for coming up with five different answers to this question. It's we came up with different Steve Jobs. Steve just. Literally rephrase the. All right. Here we go. Oh. Matt you didn't play the piano elder theme. Damn it. All right. Here we go. I don't WanNa. I'm just going to play this one. Alex. Well. As we always do, we always think the fans the sending those things was that recorded under a pillow. Doesn't. It sound like it's coming from like next door. It sounds yeah. It's like so well done and yet it's something happened in the final mix that. Went South. All right. Here we go. I'M GONNA, go to the Here we go. Oliver Pardo the answer here's the email the answer is. Seven up. Massive Lithium, which is the main special ingredient of seven up. Wow Our editorial is is how I should handle this He's got a suggestion you might have to be loose with WHO wins because I will be amazed of someone got this exact if it has something to do with lithium. Lithium. On the periodic table or something but I'll let you be the judge. I agree. If somebody had said lithium at all, they would have won Edad store that would have been ridiculous if anyone had got bow. Okay. Well, there's your there's your question and your answer today Once again I, go what? What's what is the? What was the other question I? After one o'clock. Let me text them and bring them in. Okay I So. Because because I'm that guy now that now that the question has been answered and I can look it up I looked it up. So. I'm reading the name and I'm I'M GONNA assume that this way is this handwritten by by Albert Griffin Part of this is not handwritten Serrano. His because when I read the wikipedia entry, it says that the original product was named the BIB label. Lithium. Lemon Lime Soda. You know what he may have gotten hurt here with Auto Corrado correct autocorrect changed it to litigated. You're right Oh man Elliott totally would've gotten this right if it had been lithium. That name more makes more sense litigated made no sense with the aid makes more sense and it contained lithium citrate a mood stabilizing drug until nineteen, forty eight. That's what trump on now. Right. We'll listen I still think I disagree with him I think that's a great question. Even if autocorrect screwed him over, it's tough. Good question the very, very difficult but very good also. Elliott as a child, get the fuck out of. Your Bullshit. Today. I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure if perhaps you miss read it or something, but I see autocorrect is that's always on the. There's a lot of precedent for that APP. Yes hang on. Let me let me get my son. You guys promote Steve's movie that fifteenth. What. All this, this is a totally pointless question but just to kill time, what do you like better sprite or seven up Steve No? Seven up only because I grew up with seven up. It's what my mom always had. She liked seven foot sprite. I can't tell the difference between sprite or seven up as much as I can tell the difference between zero missed and seven up. I would say definitely seven up his better than Sierra mist. Horrible it is I. Don't like it at all. remissed you do. Yeah. It goes sprite seven up Sierra. Mist Yeah. Boy Oh boy argue composure as so everybody can see you Sheila. That's Steve. Byrne what's up buddy? You remember him from not watching Sullivan and son. What? so Little problem autocorrect hurt you a little bit here so everybody can. Return here I'll show you. So nobody. Got It. Right. By the way a Steve was the closest by reading I just repeating your question. So here's what happened here is you wrote Here's the question changed Biblical Lithium Lithium changes to litigated. So autocorrect. But that doesn't matter when none of us were going to get it the. We're GONNA get the recent rate question. Yeah we love the question the the reason we brought you in because since we all got it wrong. We were curious what the other question was that you oh. Yes. I did not to use. Yeah. So the topic was the same right taken up. The same topic The question was really boring in two thousand thirteen. Lot drink became the most popular drink in America. All right in two thousand, thirteen points awarded for this. But let's quickly go round and every take a guess Garin. Fanta. Fanta. All Right Elliot. Oh. CRAP I. Twenty thirteen this begin to popular drink in the in the world. In America, states of America something must have happened that made something popular but I'm just going to say it's not going to be this RC Cola. Oh No it's not gonna be that in fact, I believe they went to the company and kicked somebody right in the face nobody cared for it. Anymore introduction thirteen I. Just I know it's going to be something connected to like an event of some sort. For Royal Crown by the way. Yeah. Go Ahead Matt I'M GONNA Guess. Red Bull Game I. Steve, what's yours before I gave mine. This is going to be a horrible answer, but I can say bottled water. Oh, Jeez I. Disagree. I think that's a great I'm GONNA I'm gonNA say Monster Drink. Red Bull, kind of busy. Version of that Elliott. Please listen to where Oliver. Give you the answer. looked. Right at him and said Elliott. That's not even starts. It's just there's I'm worried I'm like Donald Trump junior I'm worried about you know yeah we we should. We should get father in a home. There's no question about that. Oliver please tell everybody with the answer to that is it is bottled water. Well done it. Since. One Thousand, nine, Hundred Ninety two until twenty, twelve, it was coke, and then for some reason, it became water. Nice I, think that has a lot to do with Hollywood because Hollywood loves that bottled water boy like to know. That you walk into a set. You get you get that you walk into an office. I don't like when they give you a glass of water. Yeah. Great spending. A bottle to come there comes glass. John used to glass of room temp water. Here you go. Yeah. No. Thank. You. Give me a bottle I. Know it's bad for the environment but I don't need to I. Don't need to share a glass with that guy. Certainly, not with Cova going I'm not taking any meetings by the way. Which curious All right. So That was also true that was also true before covered right? Yep. Now, covert is giving me excuse I'm very well for me. show business did me a favor with covert and shut it down and? So now, I don't have to feel guilty every day for nobody calling me for a meeting. Steve weren't with twenty-five Garin where'd you go with? Fifteen fifteen? Leader in the clubhouse right now Elliott twenty-five twenty-five ties with Steve Byrne garin still leading the clubhouse. Matt Twenty Four, twenty, four Garrard's got fifteen. But the host Jimmy Carter went with seventeen. Wins. The five dollars this week Jaren way the Jeremy. Herbal Trivia Tin Money for the Oliver Group Puerto, question boy that's got a lot of sponsors. I've three times with my bet. Oh congratulations, have you gotten? Any right? Now Edible Garin is cleaning up by playing smart while Elliott, Ni- are obsessively pursuing the season long goal of highest score total at the end of the CF I won't lie. Unless the category something that I legitimately have no chance of ever knowing yeah we didn't have any chance of knowing this. Well, I know about drinks guy loves. About seven, you said Royal Crowns seconds ago. Yeah that's her. You don't get it. All right. Listen we're done Steve Burns been here. I'm going to say a win Steve I'M GONNA put this down in the wind column. Thank you well, I look I. I just want to say this was I had a great time last time in the studio with guys. This was just as much fun if not more. So thank you guys so much for having me I really appreciate it It's our pleasure and I like the outdoors really fit you I mean necessarily you're outside you brought today you're not as tight. Did a tight knit that ain't it? Like a nice we've. Turned it a Nipsy Russell. That ain't it. Go rosarito values. Are Blue Steve Burn his hair. What about you? See you're welcome. Steve Burns got the movie it's called the opening act. It's got a lot of great talented people in it I. Recommend you watch and I honestly I mean this sincerely, I can't wait to see it i. Get to look forward to that I'm sure I'll get a code of some sort because I'm not drop fucking nickel on the Way For me to appreciate this in the privacy, my own home, I actually ordered the drive it and it's the truth if one of the local drive ins is showing this thing I will I will go and you know what my son is. Is there a lot of drug use Stephen this movie? No no no no he thirteen year old could see it. I think so yeah and San and Oliver loves stand up. So it's going to be right up his alley it is. It's really going to be although we started watching something boy Steve Have you seen this it's on Pluto TV right now but it was done by comedy dynamics show called coming to the stage. Have you seen I'd heard of it? I've not seen it. If you want to see production values that would have looked great ninety, seventy nine, this is the show. How it is I don't know if they shot it in in the break room at comedy dynamics. Oh really crazy. The Great. The Great George Wallace couldn't as the host of disbelief episode. Couldn't say he's the Graboy, George? Wallace his great. but. Anyway we try watching that and then one got one guy went fellow was getting a little too. Filth. Mouth. With his content, so we to bail on it. Steve Burns with US but before we get out of here, don't forget podcastone this coming Saturday from noon to six that is Pacific Time work it out wherever you're at I know somebody on twitter said I'm near the UK what time would it be here? Figure it out. Just add eight. Right why? Why is that on the? Why is that on the star of the show to answer? I don't know what I mean. figure it out go to Google. Like. I did. I'll be half pop culture reached. Garin cock risen for smiletrain by the way this Saturday podcast please stop by. GOTO DOT COM it'll be embedded there, but it's also going to be over there on the Youtube and So join us for that six hours of non-stop conversation. I was about to say nonstop fun but I can't promise that. Can't promise nonstop conversation that will be happening. We have the pop goals release toby there. There's Garin Cockerel. Back there there's the cinnamon sticker some seven up thing going on in the background that Elliott he'll be their. Old Four H. Q. on Saturday as the is right now that's the Hajim Belknap. He'll be there are French. Burn will be but that's because he's too busy tightening up the the final cut of this movie that's coming out. That's our French Steve Byrne. Jimmy Pardo. Thanks for watching guys stay safe. We'll see you. On the PODCAST K. forty-seven gone not forgotten. 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