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FOF #2911  Checking Your Attitude for Gratitude

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FOF #2911 Checking Your Attitude for Gratitude

"Twenty twenty has been a hell of a year with the covid pandemic raging on and republicans pushing everything to the brink of collapse. It's beyond ironic. The last show we did in two thousand and nineteen with comedian. Brian sweeney was called the year of hell yet. This year is definitely worse or is it after all. There's nothing so rotten that some good can come from it. We've had a pretty good election and with georgia's january runoff progressive superstar. Stacey abrams is now a key figure in the balance of power between americans and dashes today. Our favorite grouch. Brian sweeney joins us to look at things. We're grateful for that. Did come to pass. Twenty twenty like disney's the mandalorian proves the force is still strong with star wars star. trek discovery. goes hardcore queer rupaul. Golden girls chia pets. A look at lauren. Bacall as a gay icon will smith and janet hubert discussed their feelings on their decades. Long few and you the listeners of the show. Thank you for your support. I am fausto for no. I'm mark billion. And this is feast of far to fund is made possible because a fierce fabulous people just like you become a member at least two dot com slash plus and access thousands of legendary shows or join us at patriotic at patriot dot com slash feast of thank. You feel brian sweeney. It is. I could get an autograph. No fucking we're here to collect some bills. You're about to collect some pain. And then i punch you in the face twenty twenty. It's been hard on your baby. Yeah go collect some hospital bills you piece of shit. How you doing brian. I am sitting on a couch in my home staring at a my dog archer. Oh so sweet thanksgiving just around the corner and we today. We thought we talk about the attitude the gratitude. Yes yeah i know how are you. And this has been. The thing that i've been saying for eight months now is that we really need a different way to greet one another. Because he's like. I'm doing great. He's just sound like a psychopath because this is a terrible time for everyone will you. And i are on the same path because like i've been thinking about that too. If you notice that if you've listened to the podcast recently you know we've always asked like how you doing and normally i asked that question i've kind of changed it recently because you know honestly No one really cares And also care. I know i'm just kidding. But some people don't care but also to. It's just like you know you don't really get too much of it like the the answer that you want. And so what i have been doing instead has just been saying. Hey you know it's a pleasure to talk to you. I'm glad to have you here on the podcast. And then they usually say i am too and then you go right into the meat. Well you know. A lot of disney characters do that high professor bullfrog. It's perjure to see you. I agree but i don't understand professor bullfrog for you. Mary poppins your favorite person like in a lot. Like view look watch. Mary poppins the animals that are talking The usually the way they greet each other is an expression of gratitude for the presence of the other car. That's what i did. I said i'm glad to have you here on the podcast. I wanted to demonstrate that. Okay disney characters. it's always it can't be just like i'm person who sells hats a park. I'm also a musician. And i have a magic power and i have a really eccentric uncle and i also always happy to see people and you let them know that yes. It's a jolly holiday with brian. Brian frowns and makes the clouds outside with bra. Everything doesn't seem so bad but the the disney character. The beagle boys. They're never you're never happy to see the eagle boys because they're always trying to steal uncle scrooge first time so you wouldn't say that they're not all disney not all characters hashtag autism and crew of google. That one i'll even know does villains in the so in the donald duck verse or universe berg. It's so they because donald duck. There's there's the nephews huey louis and screwy yeah and then there's scrooge mcduck and then so they expanded all that to duck tales and they had like an australian character and all this other shit and in the comic books. There's the beagle boys who are group of villains who are not ducks who are always trying to steal. Scrooge mcduck his money and try to bring balance to the inequality of the rich and poor in that world. they're real bernie. Sanders grew bryant last year. We we i think the last podcast we did with you last year. We talked about it and we titled called the year of how that was for a year so this year. What are we titling this year. Well i mean. I guess we could just keep going in all the circles of hell from dante's inferno keep going lower lower but there's a lot to be great though there is yeah. Listen here you wanna go down the list with me. Why aren't you he is he. Is i suppose you have your dog archer there. I am always grateful fully unaware of anything that's going on. He's the second best dog in the world. After jesse as he is the best dog your rate we have a rivalry between good. I have to say. I really like your dog archer. how old is archer. He is through four now. He's about to like his birthday is next year so he might be turning. I'm sorry next month. So i think he's turning four next gen nine. So he's he's three and he's about to turn four so he's still in his puppy years. Yeah any staring at me. And he's sleeping. He's also just the chilidog but jesse's really chill. Also they're both very orleans he's laying here at my feet right now. Yeah archers laying right in front of me. And he's doing that dog thing. where is they closed. But then every so often they open a little bit. just make sure. Everything's going okay. Does your dog dream does it. Does he talk when he dreams. Yes he goes roll over wall. And i've put up videos. I have videos of. Oh yeah and also runs in sleep. A his his paws shaking. He sleeps really deep. That's the thing about dogs dreaming and for people who don't live with dogs don't at. I never really knew that. Until i had jesse we always wonder what's going on in the mind of dog is a dog. Just saying like me or food. Feed me walk me you know. But the dog actually has an internal mind that has emotions and feelings and relationships and and you get an insight into that when the dog is dreaming you can see the and here at least what comes across to us as humans as as a as anxiety as happiness as fear as as excitement manifested in his muffled. Sounds he makes when he sleeps with the problem is you don't know if he's ever dreaming of freddie if he always found the same. Yeah you always have to wake him up and say oh no. Are you fighting freddie. 'cause sometimes You'll see those claw marks and say like and sometimes freddie will write and blood. Welcome to my nightmare bitch right. But you don't know if he's is he. Is he talking to a female dog. Does he think archers a female dog and maybe is archer saying that. That's how he identifies. Maybe you're dreaming the whole thing and friday's coming after you one too. Well now. we've yes now. We've really hit on Smoking weed in a freshman dorm talk. What if what if. This is all a giant dream and when he wakes we all disappear Who cares either way. What a lovely dream. I went to a funeral time and it was. It was a great story. And you know this is a person who was very much an anchor to the community and was very creative artist with the radical fairies. Here in chicago was it. Bill curtis who. Who's the news knows. He wasn't yeah he was he was an anchor in chicago. I don't have my friend penny. Michael o'reilly had this as a person who is very spiritually oriented and very much in faith in religion as a pagan and a person who participated in square dancing communities. There's a whole thing their pagan square dancing contra kant contra dance square dance but it's basically the sania and pigan contra dance pagan square dancing. They just keep like burning trees while they dance around it naked more or less like that. So there's a lot of people there that hadn't seen ten years and people aged differently. People are going through different things in their lives and so when they saw me a few people there like you look amazing. One at great anecdote at so. I got penny so i remembered this story about lauren. Bacall that one of our guests said on the show her name her barbara her said your lauren. Bacall laura costs. She met laura mccall and said your lauren. Bacall and learn mccall responded. Yes isn't it wonderful. He pulled us started laughing and we had such a good team play faster. You're great yes. Isn't it wonderful. I always say when my girl might hear girlfriend. Mary says like you look nicer. Something to me wind chill is to me and says things like that when she says you look nicer something or you look handsome. I i. I say i didn't ask. Which is jack. Nick is what jack nicholson says. In batman. ninety eight nine. Is she His girlfriend's look fine. He says ask so. I think that that's what you should do next time. You're at your friend's funeral. But i like once brian. I like lauren. Bacall 's attitude to the the the complicated theater of existence right and in two thousand eight hundred twenty. We have been handed a very tough deck of cards. And we've had people that we've lost. There's so much uncertainty. There's so much that we don't know what is going to happen. And and they're so much in the balance right now with the election in georgia whether americans can successfully fight fascism and and a a takeover of the government by republicans so with all that uncertainty. You know i think lauren. Bacall 's attitude in the musical applause is like i feel itchy and bitchy and scratchy common and collected but choking with panic but alive. That's the ticket alive so in like a game the gay man world is that what lauren bacall is known for a movie musical called laws. They're like well. I heard about her on fees to fund point coffee commercial. Highpoint has special have locking flavor deep brewed flame. It's capturing flavor deep fruit flavor free deep brewed flavor for that awesome taste and flavour. Yes yes they do that song. Because you know it's broadway. She played form that broadway. And then there's a a fabulous drag queen lip sync. Who did a musical number two. It that became world-famous. Everybody loved seeing it. You know and it's a. It's a camping musical and it's definitely can't be song and they go to greenwich village and in the movie version that they did for television. The you know it's a it's a gay bar in greenwich village that she shows up while she's singing that song and it's a bunch of gay guys and there's even a sign in the back kind of like the letters are kind of off a little bit but it definitely makes out the word gay power in it it's like refrigerator magnet but like you know neon ones our and then she's just like he walks in she walks into the room singing and all the game man and go margo channing. And she goes drafts. I've been found out and then she's like it's okay if you wanna go and she's i are you kidding. I'm here for the night. And then and then it goes into a crazy musical number She's on the giants swing swinging her around. It's an interesting thing about the aids. Pandemic versus the covid pandemic is that those gays in that time period felt like things couldn't get worse like even though they have this amazing community and they had this like sexual liberation. That was happening. A lot of them were at odds of being accepted by their families by their workplaces by their communities. And there was just like you know a lot of sentiment like in films like the boys in the band were just like life was cruel joke and then the aids crisis happened and the government and many people were content with letting gay men die so in some ways you know the covid pandemic one thing i'm grateful for is that it's really drove driven home the point to old majority of americans that we're all in this together and we're facing a pandemic it's going to affect us all more importantly how do you how do you think humphrey boettger would've Responded to this applause thing do you think how would have also become like a gay icon. Listen he was very progressive listed as a as he aged. Do you think that like sort of fell out of favor with the mainstream. Like say he's still alive in one thousand nine hundred seventy and he fell out of Favor with the mainstream so now he's just started doing b. movies and some of them are like gas taste in movies any walks in and he's like. Hey they're bruce. Is this your husband. I guess that doesn't sound like him at all. But it's also more like the guy from that. Where's your messiah now. But yeah edward g. robinson casablanca is gay thing that humphrey bogart as a gay man in that movie. And that's of the reason why or that relationship between she and him don't work out but how come then they have sex in the movie and oh like you haven't sucked the dick in your life. Brian at the walks off into the sunset with with the was hot rod rain you know exactly and not only that. But he Yeah yeah it's a beginning of a beautiful friendship. However the entire reason why he loved and moved to morocco and started. This started rick places because he was brokenhearted by. What's her face elsa. Well it's the nazis came in into so he left because of the nazis. Yeah but he was a freedom fighter in paris and she wasn't there the in the morning that they were supposed to meet up and so he gave up his entire life and just went off to the bar and just sat and drink and at some as peer. Laurie says everyone always ends up at rick's one later another. But yes as everybody end up rex. Dick's everybody ends up at dick's. Yeah yeah it's I remember when it was being written. They talked a lot about how much gayness they just wanted to put it into the movie and everything you to be gay as gay as possible. They said laurie senate. He's gay didn't wasn't the original line. Is me a hot oil massage again. Sam that is and Sam was played by a black man and originally it was like this big sexy black man who just like ripped his shirt off and then started playing the piano and it was like a full dance. Number pre bogart was licking cherries off of them and events and they said like guys look or making casa blanca. And obviously this is super gay. Everything about this is very gay. So especially sydney greenstreet and He's the one who Is fanning himself. Because he's a large man any. He was also a maltese falcon. Yeah he played gay and that to all they do. If it's a weird thing like Because i was watching that fresh prince of bel air reunion. And the ed have you watched. I'm sorry finish your thought. 'cause i'm dying to talk about will smith and on vivian. Having a heart to heart. Oh yeah but the guy. Who played jeffrey the butler. He has one of those one diff- type of old timey. Hollywood accents that you don't really get it anymore. But it's always weird when you like hear an actor like sydney greenstreet. Whatever been like. Oh yes i believe that this weird weird accent when i have a taste for burger. That's what i order. He's it's not on the menu. I glare at the waiter say improvised dan. I got a tease or some review. Ooh yes we'll and vivian. So so i guess to explain to the listeners. Y'all know who will smith is. You may not know that. One of his breakout roles was of course was the fresh prince of bel-air and in the early seasons of the series they had broadway actress channel. Louise hubert who played his on stern but loving aunt. Vivian on the sitcom and she was definitely seen as a camp icon at the time and was inexplicably fired from the show. Or she quit. I'm not sure what happened. And there's going out buying. She wanted money and he was just like she's not getting more money so they clarify. They finally came. So there's been a lot of debate of what has happened. And will smith agrees that basically he made it impossible for her to continue with the show so the producers of the show basically demoted her character and gave her a contract where she could not take on any other acting roles period any other jobs and she was just like. I can't survive on this. You know lower loss of income and only be able to do fresh prince so she was forced to quit the show and In a very intense episode of red table. Talk on facebook on. Vivian janet hubert and will smith face-to-face confronted each other about their disagreement and heartbreak. And i have to say it's one of the most Courageous and intense exchanges between a celebrity. And somebody that they've heard that i've ever seen on television ever and so it really shows that will smith has been you know taking steps to healing and being a better person and to live You know People are expressing the opinion. That will smith probably owes at least a million dollars to janet hubert for torpedoing her career but also like the will smith kept saying lay. I we had to do this. Because i didn't want someone out there. Thinking bad of me or lichen it. We couldn't we couldn't celebrate without acknowledging. James hubert in without having her part of it and like it was all like yes. It was nice. But i did feel that will didn't take as much Ownership ability yeah. Responsibility should have because He was while they're like saying like. Oh i had the to this. It's been twenty seven years and all of a sudden because there is this. Hp max deal like it's again. It's an economic thing like you're getting paid like you have an incentive toward money by and you know and also like they know that that's a big thing to get the people in so it's hard to know but i guess there's just a problem with capitalism in general. It's hard to know like what really is being done for the right reasons. And what's being done. Just because will smith understands What is the best sort of way to get people to want to tune in and so they'll get whatever whether it's money or it just seems strange that it was twenty seven years and then all of a sudden zeitgeist for the past couple of years past couple of years like she like she's been getting a lot of traction talking about it recently and in her relationship and friendship with shane shange from rupaul's drag race also brings up the story back again in recent news or like what happened to aunt. Vivian and so shangila. who's in the public is. Well tells her side of the story her perspective and you you know. It is very clear that on vivian. Janet hubert was given sour deal and also too i think especially when we hear from jada two in the pink at one stink at smith about her entanglements. That this family is now getting used to airing You know their laundry for the public to consume as a way to increase appetite of like what you know the pinkett. Smith's do next will. Smith's star is not shining as bright. Obviously nobody wants to shining these days. He's not no. I don't think i would say the. Yeah the last ten years like has he got his first like bomb or not i but he the bombs just lined up like with after earth and all those like he just doesn't have the draw anymore but i don't know like it's a nice thing and if people can but it just didn't feel like you didn't feel closure yes. I demand that they do it again. Take to do this. You think she feels closer. Do you think that she feels her and he she also like she wrote a book about this about just how much she fucking hates will how i am so like it's like there's so many things like she pops up all the time like she's every so she's like a bad penny. She always turns up and She indiana jones quote Shia she wrote yes. She wrote some book and she's always sort of been talking about. How bad will smith is and shit. And i don't even understand how you can like not. Just kill yourself. If you leave like the fresh pushed out of the fresh prince of bel-air and then like they're like will smith is going to make a movie and you're like good i. I will enjoy seeing him fail and then you go through like twenty years of him being the biggest star in the entire world but knowing that i said to mary as a imaginable friend. Mary my girlfriend's still. As i stated earlier we are still together. I will let you in canada. And i wish i was in canada. I mean the hell of the united states the terrible country and Yeah like imagine your lake. Biggest is one is like the one person everyone loves because they have such great charm and everyone just loves it. Will smith so couldn't have been easy. But i am thankful for the fresh prince of bel air unions. As it was fun it could be a should have been longer. I feel but maybe that's good Keep wanting more and you can watch that on. Hbo max And we're not getting paid. Chang just kidding. We are getting bankroll well. Twenty twenty one. It's going to be the three thousand. Three thousand episode of feast of fun. And i've listened to all of them. There are some people out there who have heard every single episode. I just wish somebody on facebook Happy birthday today zach. Who just turned thirty one. And he was featured on television when he was fifteen or fourteen years older. Fifteen years old wearing a feast. Fun t shirt. They were interviewing him about coming out. And i'm just like oh my gosh. He's been listening for that long and he's that young when he started in that he's that old now and the reason i'm bringing that up right now is is part of it is in the early days of our podcast. We had a huge falling out with some of our regular guests and Obviously we it's not an a. Will smith on. Vivian kind of thing. But even like we had a situation where very popular podcast or spent a good decade a group of podcasters trashing us and talking saying really untrue. Terrible things about us and taunting and ridiculing and bullying us on social media. And you know when we were in the throes of that it was a very emotionally difficult place to be. And so certainly. Like i can relate to what janet hubert went through only You know our version of the story. We're still here. And they're not and killed them no they. Didn't you know they put so much energy into harming us through their social media and through their podcast that i think it actually had the opposite effect. Actually it actually was a very critical level of attention where the public was able to contrast what they were doing on their shows and what we were doing at the time and so obviously these are people who are not well or struggling with other issues and they're just bullying and attacking mark and fausto as a way to you know make themselves feel better to gain new listeners and so You know. Like i was kinda thinking. It was like well for three thousand show. It be kind of interesting to you know. Pay some of the people who hate our guts to talk to us to our reconciliate little red table. Talk to have a red table. Talk with people who really really mad And so i was. I'm putting that out there to see if that's something that people would be interested in or is that like putting us in a vulnerable fragile space. But you know. I think it's for twenty twenty one like important to reach out and to approach things differently than you've already been doing because if this election is shown us anything is that we're surrounded by people who are brainwashed into a cult and just like you know when you rescue a family member who's been kidnapped by mooney's for example or the jim jones massacre or something like that Deprogramming and you know you can't just blame the way they see the world on their own choices. it's like they. They are as much of a victim of this cult as we are and and so we have to figure out how to deal with these republicans who are literally brainwashed by oligarchs trump and and otherwise. We're we're going to be dealing with this for the rest of our lives but you're presupposing that your right lake in. That is the problem. I don't believe party because i'm able to criticize and reject the leadership of all political parties. They're not doing that. So there's a distinction right then there that are making and weather where wherever we agree on. Politics is not the issue here is there a inability to reject or criticize the leadership of their political parties. I don't think that that's what republicans want though. I think it's the problem. It doesn't matter what they want their part of cult. Somebody's brainwashed by jim. Jones will drink the kool aid. And that's you know. Living is is probably saying i don't wanna live. I want to die. I want to drink this cool eight. I wanted to go into the heaven that jim jones talks about. And so when we're dealing with family members or people in our community that are brainwashed by this called. We have to approach this differently. But i'm saying that. I reject the idea that they don't know what they're doing and that they are brainwashed but they're also brainwashing possible they believe makes it into a like this victim thing that Democrats and liberals seem to think always like the west wing idea of like all you have to do is just come up with the right arguments and then because everyone is working in good faith not dealing with people in good faith not. I don't think the. I think that the thing is what you want In the star trek way. Or whatever what you think of as a great future is not what they think of as a great future and it has nothing to do with being brainwashed. They know exactly what they want. And they the a large segment of the population Just once authoritarianism because it's easier in the same way. How much like the united states people love their bosses and stuff. We love people that are just going to take care of it and you even said with the cult of personality of obama like there are so many people that would never ever ever say that obama did anything wrong so it's not just like i mean like normal as democrats look at our notorious rb g like these things are all the same. It's just one of them is like outwardly. Terrible and that's trump and thought we all create these weird myths of all of these. We celebrities right. Yeah i mean obama. Ninety percent of the drone attacks that he sent out were the wrong targets and ended up just killing civilians. But we don't care we just go. We move past that in the same way that when we're driving around there's a guy a homeless man at the stoplight. We just stare straight ahead usually night. Maybe not every so in every so often for homeless people now. If we're great people we wouldn't do that but we aren't like a lot of was brainwashing is a word that it feels like it. It should be more so Set for people that are like purposely made to think something that they didn't think before. I don't think that there's a lot of people if you went back. And sort of looked through their history. It's not like a lot of people just suddenly changed with trump. The only people like the people that weren't really paying attention to politics are the only ones that are surprised that republicans aren't going to say anything to trump amion. It's just like which what they do. That's who they are. That is that's what their for. Their party is and that's what it is. And that's what they want whether they're fearful of sandy. I'm tim because there's going to be reprisals right because trump You know One of those people that is just like if you cross me. I'm gonna dick you over so hard you're gonna regret it. That's not why because they just they are saying that. But that's not really why because if trump went after like I don't know if he did something that messed with Like the money or the stock market. They would come forward and say stuff because they're not afraid it's just that they agree with most of what they're doing the way that like they can't even say anything about a coup d'etat. That's happening right now. That trump is doing. That's because they don't believe in democracy and they just never have. That's why it's not like it's the reason why stacey was less fighting small hard injured to make sure that those for the past few years because republicans were already like this. They've always been like this. This is just what they are like you. We went through the bush years and when they were trying to privatize social security and they were so much against allowing any anything of insurance they were against having to take people with preexisting conditions. This is what they think like. This is just who they are and it has nothing to do with it. Just the trump makes fun and because he's very entertaining and that's why like when people come in and they get excited about trumpets because he's entertaining guy in the same way like aoc's entertaining. People love afc and twitter yen. I've seen people like they have absolutely nothing in common with her politics but they love her for like biden. Pick her as vice president in these are like people that are like centrist libs. Who have who do not agree with any of her stanzas. But she's fun and that's really that's what people care about and just cute. It is fun and as we saw. And as we saw and we all love watching maga- people cry. It's fun to see the other side upset. It really is nice. It well i i think. A lot of americans don't feel very unsettled seeing republicans protesting the election. I don't think there's a lot you know we're we're talking about social media here is not a reflection of our true selves. And i'm definitely of the mindset of captain kirk that there is never a problem so great that we cannot find a solution for it and in terms of the human beings that are republicans. They are redeemable to some degree. I don't feel like you know they. They are a part of us. They are a reflection of who we are as a country and we hate ourselves. It's not going to be a problem. We're going to be able to resolve so we have to figure out how to change our behavior because obviously we can't change their behavior to. And i think stacey abrams has really risen as they future as of central political figure like the whole future of the united states. Right now is hanging. On stacey. Abrams ability to get the people of georgia to vote. But when we say like one person can't do anything just think about how many stacey out there in the world who are who have decided that instead of organizing people to vote in their communities they said you know what. Both sides are equally corrupt. There is nothing really can be done. Americans are racist or their core they cannot be redeemed. We can't move forward and yeah and and that's a shining example. It'd be grateful for is how you know. It's very likely than in january. Thanks to stacey. Abrams and progressives not centrist democrats. We're going to see hopefully a balance of power moving in a direction towards humanism so all the listeners out there please try and help out in georgia which any you can foam bank. If you are in georgia make sure you vote. Because if we can get those georgia's senators we should be in pretty good position but you know it could also be like obama and his first two years and we'll just give the fat cats with the money exactly what they want. But we don't know that yet and so we need to proceed as if the outcome is going to be favorable. because but obama's obama's first two years were him in control of everything it was when it was so if that's what mark man yes. That's what i. what is that. The guy who ran as vice-president with al gore who turned out to be this conservative asshole. Libra lieberman. He was the part of the reason. We didn't get like a single payer. He didn't want the And he didn't want the individual mandate there was a lot of Terrible but that's also like it's not like joe lieberman's an aberration with the democratic party in. That's another thing that's important. I feel like joe lieberman. If you like stacey. Abrams or joe. Lieberman is a hundred percent waiting. Closer to nancy. Pelosi is like way closer. Get job lieberman than she is. Ao see like that's what the party is. It's a it's why they're such bad party because of just the corporate democrats. It's hard to get their grasp off of the party. It's why they make the squad out to be like these dumb little girls who don't get understand things in the real men lake senator. Joe manchin and Schumer and pelosi in that. They're the ones they get it. What's the talk to. Chris coon somare. Let's let's find more people there. Eighty years old to roll us. Find sceni- should well see. she's done. I think politically with her hugging lindsey graham that they'd be like you guys did so well destroying the judicial branch. Here's a cheat. But during the pandemic she got reelected though. What are you talking. Post election was not this season had had she been up for reelection after doing that. I think she would have had a hard time when i don't think so. But also you're talking about some your again. Talks about social media like no one gives a shit outside of social media. but that's also stacey abrams. it's also important that we do not make activists into anything other than our of a small part of a larger piece. Because that's what always happens like that's what happened to d'auray that's a problem with when or whomever it is. When when they move onto. When you start getting interviewed by anderson. Cooper whatever you start your in a different world now regardless of how good you think your intentions are once become the figurehead of something. They're able to take you down or destroy it or make it so you become part of the system and that's just sort of what happens and that's so brian to do is take a knife and go to a park bench and carve on the park bench. No fate but what we make. The only party is nothing but what we shape it to be if we can stay abrahams doing that and we're doing that but i pivoted here. I wanna talk about. Because you know the star wars and star trek franchise and twenty twenty have gone through major changes and obscure to hear your thoughts about the mandalorian because when star wars and disney were coming together after george. Lucas drained the life of the franchise. People are fearing that disney was. Who's gonna like crush even more. And and i. I you know. Mandalorian can be argued as good as the original star wars. Yeah but the bigger movies. That's the problem. Laying rises skywalker was a bomb and it was like a parody star wars. It was also just the entire sequel trilogy just was a giant waste of time like what was the point of any us like nothing happened. It's it's not even like story. I don't carrie. Fisher was such a shade. Stra mental figure and setting the tone of the first trilogies. And you know. I mean. I love carrie fisher. I thought you know she's an extraordinary talent and a great humanitarian. And obviously like you know when she got signed into being part of the reboot. She was just like very cynical about his head. You're not you're going to be disappointed by this. But it's it's nice. It's fun but it is not going to be the same thing. I guess i it was just it just seemed like It just didn't matter anymore and that was a big problem like there wasn't it wasn't a big deal anymore that there were making saw star wars. You were a child. And now you're seeing star wars through the eyes of an adult. I mean no but i'm talking about The success of it like no one's excited about rayan fan po and shit like now. We've moved so far past that and it just came out but we'll never do anything with star wars ever again with how bad the how. How bad all that went to do anything with his character really. He was like this racism. These people suck. I'm done with you. But he You know also. I'm sure will smith and we're never gonna talk again. Life is extremely long. Maybe he'll be mandalorian of of of Fresh prince yes. That would be an a. He could play fin fresh tune of miller. I'm he's he's no moves into the casino planted in last jedi. That stupid casino thing. I think it's always weird on star wars. How every planet is always the same thing like there's the desert planet there's the jungle planet. There's the forest planet it's like can't one planet just have a lot of these different things on it. Well they might. It's i mean but that's like watch a movie and it's taking place in the spring in la. You're not like we're the whole snow. What's with this planet. You just assume that you know there's other planet there's other parts of the of the planet or whatever like an all sci fi like you know you have these ships you can zip around the universe but the thought of having like something take place in the central hemisphere of a planet versus the northern hemisphere. Different you know different locations on the same globe never really occurs. But that's like star trek. I feel is bigger problem or whatever you wanna call it because they just sort of always go to places that has some form of a global centralized government where it's and then like everyone is sort of the same on the entire planet and they're not broken up in different sectors or districts unless they wanna make some parable about war fighting each other but like they're always they always beam into like right in the place where the main stuff is going on in the entire world. I wonder where that would be on earth. San juan puerto. Rico would be like if you're trying to meet with trump and you go to san juan puerto rico. Trump's giving paper towels the people. You know it's like you go for the most ridiculous moment and that's the thing about it is is like even those star trek and star wars has moments of humor. It's never sort of like ridiculing. The premise of the series other. I think the lower deck's to some degree. The animated series does touch on that satire. But i feel like lower deck's is sort of trying to pick up what the family guy creator Did with his sci-fi series on fox. Rick and morty the or or or coralline. Yeah seth mcfarland was did. I cancelled right. It got cancelled it. Was you know it was it was like it was neither starting to with next generation to make fun of it was like it was like watching seth macfarlane. You know masturbate. So people might enjoy that. But what are you most people on star trek going hardcore queer with a record number of trans gay. Nonbinary end lesbian characters front and center. I'm very upset boycotting everything you've just get through it out the window. Yes i said. I said oh my god to men criticizing or whatever the fuck as and i got really bad I don't feel. I don't know the i always fool laura representation like it's really important. Obviously but if it's not also behind the camera and in places of actual power it doesn't matter and just makes us feel better without actually moving forward against tokenism. where they'll just dangle a. Hey this somebody who's bisexual but none the people on the crew or the writers or anything like that or are people of the lgbt rainbow. Yeah like i'm sure black panther black great and you know. There's a lot of black people allowed lexical behind the candidates written written and directed. But i would assume the people who made the most money off of black fans are all white rich people and it's just sort of like the problem in general with our world that we we don't have power in where it needs to be a week you have is like nice little stories to tell ourselves. And that sort of Would america's where it's just sort of you come up with these like like vietnam thing again like you just come up with like obama means and you're like that's who he is and that's how he is and you just keep creating these stories but i mean i think it's good if it helps move people forward toward that type of lifestyle but i feel like What is really needed would be the actual point of views point of view of Don white straight people because lots that's a given for so it's like i don't like i don't hate it but a lot of stuff that like You guys are into gaza or like that you think sucks but stuff and no governmental. There's different types of humor or a of gay guys. Like different types of guys like camp and things like that. I was i was thinking is speaking of freddy krueger. Like i i realized like it makes sense why freddie such a gay icon because he's the only killer that's In movies that really puts a lot of effort into making it into a big show like in this so excited it feels like like looking at all the stuff i've done just to kill you and has his witty quips. Yeah and he has like all of the served yes and he's and he's like a writing a train. It has as fashion. Accessories is like walking the runway sweetie. That would be a perfect one. Like of yeah. He'd have to keep a sharing and says the walk until he dies robert allen and glen. Who plays freddy. Cougar is going to be like on some franchise he's gonna be. It's gonna be in the season for stranger thing. Oh my god he's gonna play a teacher. Hey you can start your bring the homeland. There'll be some referenced nightmare on elm street somewhere in there because that's what they that show does it cannibalize eighties. Culture feels like all like all sci-fi everything so in star wars. We had an aliens reference in star trek. We've had geiger kind of h h geiger. Like there's always like things met from other franchises. do now. It seems like you watch stuff in like. Oh that's from star trek. Oh that's from that show. That's from this show now but that's also just sort of language also like languages Yeah but though of stuff if you walk into a room and there's a room full of eggs and those eggs hatching have little creepy spiders that come out and attack you your derivative of aliens. I don't care what you know. And and i star for mandalorian. Do that was kind of fun but it was also really lazy writing. But they probably wouldn't have done it in a movie like they will have to pay for that but in i don't know in rise skywalker a giant worm that eight people but i guess they all have giant weren't marriott dancing in front of me by the way he's doing a dance dance. Dance of the seven veils. She's dancing lombardo. The forbidden dance. Oh no the police are now. Mary is in jail. No big yellow bryan. Have you caught up on supernatural. Maybe before we move on. I wanted to ask brian about the idea that you know in the past on star trek when somebody was gay or trans it was because they were a different species or something happened. Where brain was inside somebody else's body and now gay characters on the show kirk was a female robot. One time remember he was. He was nevertheless the dishes. Ready dr janice lester. Their episode kirk became rosie from the jets was a very popular episode and and What was it row. The turned up turned up his treadmill to try and he had to keep running really fast. And got me this. Crazy thing. Starfleet admiral Cogs wolcott boyega and say. Oh but you're talking about. I'm pretty sure that's turnabout intruder. Dr janice lester moved her consciousness into kirks head and jazz. Lester was in kirk. Or kirk was jessica's body but you are forgetting that sulu was a married gay man in What do you call. It starts with me on that was retro fitted. So that was that was like after george. Jk famously became this icon. They they changed the joystick as gay. Oh yeah oh man. Man can't kiss on the cheek. My husband brad. A in this season of discovery. Well i mean in discovery series. You're having human characters who are lesbian or gay or or you know even have autism and oh my god and it's not something that's being tried to cure. It's it's part of who they are stamps. Stamps was gay with wilson crews. Were they married or just dating I don't know there might be living together. Well in the star trek versa. Same sex marriages still not legal yet. That's the one thing but then they went to another planet where it was legal so that now the federation had to recognize their marriage. And that's how they did it. They still have to live in the cargo part of the ship but they went to rise the pleasure planet to get married. They did remember. When warf index went there and vanessa williams was like i do random resort. That was one of the worst episodes over williams in bad hair on hulu where she was that. She has an evil. We've yeah i read about that. I do watch marian. High just watched the entire for friday the thirteenth franchise. I recommend the episode. How many movies are in that twelve. Which is very upsetting. Because they only and they the rights have been in In court for like a long time. So why for the rights. The guy who wrote the original friday. Thirteenth victor victor miller where jason was. Just the boy who drown At the very end. He pops. Up as a little boy in the dream sequence. By he sued sean s cunningham who owns the rights friday the thirteenth and jason of that he created the characters so he deserves compensation and that has been in the courts for like five or six years. It's been just going and going and you would think at some point. They would just be like fine. Whatever here's a couple million alone. Because i was i was thinking about highly before. Nineteen eighty. Two hockey mass weren't scary. Like now you see a hockey mask and you know what it means like. Oh that's what killers. Wear you wear a hockey mask for halloween. Everyone knows what it is. And it's scary but it's weird that for so long or like at a party city. I saw street scientists elm street and i was like oh man. That's weird that all of a sudden that just became a scary street like in nineteen eighty-four whatever everyone's like oh elm street scary whereas like in nineteen eighty three. It's just a street. But that's neither here nor there. But that is sort of a thing of how language and stuff changes but stats and wilson cruise wilson cruz and Oh yes took down and lesbians with cancer take her. Is she a lesbian on the show. It's also strange to think. Think of lake in while in discovery there in like whether they like three thousand or whatever super future. They're still going to be like trans people like they can't just sort of whether or not binary they're perfectly happy where they are so the the main character of played by blue. What's the name of her there. They do refer to the character. She yeah with female pronouns so they still haven't in the year two thousand grasp the concept of of them actor. Nonbinary the actor. The character is a sheet. So there's they're totally copying out on it. Yeah and so and the her boyfriend i believe is a he in the show and both the actor and and and in real life but assigned female at birth trans trans actor playing him. Okay and i don i. It's not clear whether that person's transient. But then also they've got a symbian and there and there's men and women in there so it's like i mean what is it true anyway. So that's where they're sort of copying out on the whole idea of of trans or non binary identity is that they're they're weasling by making it a sifi thing right. So it's not just yeah. They're supposed to be a gate. Actually that was always the problem with star. I remember each series was supposed to have gay characters except I don't know the answer was so they had that on. They actually wrote an episode. What was it the about. Those blood larvae is or blood worms or something like that fire and ice. I think it was called the fire and ice. The david gerald one that was in that wasn't made but then they did a sort of a smaller version of us for they fan fiction version they filmed it but they moved from the tng universe to the oji universe on for star trek. And what are the guys. That i was on Reality tv show for nor he played. Captain kirks nephews boyfriend or fiance. Or something like that He's super embarrassed by intakes. Talks about it so heartbreaking like he had a terrible experience filming it and you didn't really like it and he's not very proud of it so i talk about it and you just like no no no and to me. It's it's very disappointing. Because here you are have contributed to something very important in lgbtq history but because of your own personal negative experience your disavowing. The greater significance of that contribution. If you you know you may if you had a job you're the first black person or like if the if paramount tweeted nichelle nichols really poorly. She's like i don't wanna talk about star trek. They're a bunch of race. Fuck you know and it's like yes but you have a historical figure on television and it's very important that you make choices. Yeah choice as like tatyana. Says kathy lee now grace who raises literally. That's the thing it's like reality. Tv shows now. People are just like my catchphrases. What's up honey. Oh honey dane words. Yeah but don't you remember perez hilton Perez hilton tried to get that hot copyrighted. The song don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me that the pussycat dolls made a hit was initially supposed to be sung and recorded by paris. Hilton overly And she said that's not to say don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me. And then later on. She regretted it then. She tried to cop out about it and saying well if if the dama would has been as as the song was maybe i would have said yeah man what a missed opportunity here. A paris hilton version member. Her amazing song. That's stars are blind. Hit his home a little bit of that. Brian single best stars are blind. And there's none in the sky. And i'm paris hilton and who take rail trucks. He does for herpes. Oops yeah i have to google that to know about people some kind of ridiculous because your parents send one of those conversion therapy camps in in in utah. I certainly don't endorse those those things that could be torture. Especially if you identify a lgbt but you know what. She's a trump supporter. So i can't now i can't go. Paris hilton is still trump supports of ours. I know has you ever come out against him. I'm that means hot. Now the republic. I mean regardless of whether she comes out against it or not she still a terrible billionaire lake and she has these awful awful things that she makes money from. Its again the thing like you know. I'm not. I'm putting Of water into a freezer anyway. Brian if you put water in the freezer it will come out as ice. Oh no oh. God oh really fucked. Everything off. can't believe that brian It's so good talking to you. And it's like i really miss you. I know that this year's been tough. And we certainly have felt the your lack of presence on the podcast and speaking the audience. They've been missing you a lot. They say you know he's he's quarantining with his girlfriend. Catching up on supernatural smashing. That are you. did you watch the finale. No i'm still like in the middle of the last episode of the last season. Oh wait so not not season fifteen. No season fifteen although the final season the last by last exactly as you think it's gonna end cool thanks for. What are we here for. The finale same done in every single fucking show for last thirty years suck and fuck each other seniors. Fifteen years brian. what earlier. I was saying a like. I don't like the same stuff like necessarily you guys do. But i mean that in a thing of like. I don't have a looking at it as like a gay man so humorous i suppose so but you're not trying to find the The sweet in the vinegar. Yes exactly but i'm so like you know like When you watch movies are almost all from white. Straight says man point of view and so I'm saying like if if were shown more things on star trek from the point of view of other people that we've may find alien to us than i think that's a much better thing than just having trans people say lines that were written by says people or Straight people gay people were saying straight people lines like things like that. I feel like it's it's a it's always. It's so sad to think about all of the great ideas and things that never got through just because we felt that we needed to keep up with like straight sis liberal hegemony or whatever that's all the give you an example alvar trans characters in movies have come into thousand seven. The most quotable line from a trans person in was in star. Bootie who says my my lava is my mother. Is my father in two thousand seven. Was it two thousand two thousand eight. Two thousand seven was star. Bootie came out yeah. Limited release limited release straight to dvd. And it's weird. That was the trans representation that year. You know so but wasn't like but that movie like trans america instead it. Just come out. I think something there though and also it was felicity huffman playing. She's like i'm trans. And i'm also trying to get my daughter into college any means he's likely she's like how about if i Maybe switch the binary. Then let my daughter into harvard. I'm on a hate crime She go to jail. I think she went to jail. I think she did community service. Or something and becky laura. Laurie went to jail and Yeah and. I think that they're the ones who oh but is buffalo. Bill trans we come down on that That the actor. The character the character the character and silence of the land. They specifically say that he. He's not. he's not trans. and that's why he was rejected for the sexual reassignment surgery or gender reassignment gender confirmed on gender confirmation surgery. But you know there's a lot of thinking nowadays if you if you if you say you're transit if you feel you're tran.

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Contact Tracing Lies in South Australia 20/11/20

From The Newsroom

03:17 min | 2 months ago

Contact Tracing Lies in South Australia 20/11/20

"From the newsroom. At news dot com. Hi i'm lexie kat. right. And i'm andrew buckler and this is the latest from the newsroom. It's friday the twentieth of november. Good news for south. Australians premier. Stephen marshall has announced the state will come out of hard lockdown. This saturday night. That's three days earlier than expected. The decision comes after officials discovered. An individual had lied to contact tracers which sparked the sites lockdown the premiums said if they have nine the truth about how the individual court coronavirus had pates stole. They would not have sent the state into a six day lockdown to say that i. I'm fuming about the actions of this. Individual is an absolute understatement. Selfish actions of this individual have put our whole state in a very difficult situation. His actions have affected businesses individuals family groups and is completely and awfully unacceptable overseas now. Donald trump's lego tame has held an extraordinary press conference to make the case for overturning. The election results. They claim the election was stolen by crooks and infiltrated by communists money. He's one of mr. Trump's lawyers sydney pal the massive influence of communist money through venezuela cuba and likely china in the interference with our elections here in the united states. The wild press conference was made even wilder. By the fact that rudy. Giuliani had to cape wiping head off his face which started running everywhere. The hotline embarrassing elsewhere and a convicted female terrorist has been accused of stabbing another inmate at melbourne women's prison. Mamane sharma was charged on wednesday with engaging in terrorist acting relation to the alleged stabbing one hundred and fifty centimeters. Tall woman nicknamed. The tiny terraced was convicted in june. Las chief stabbing her landlord in front of his five year old daughter. The bangladeshi one thousand nine hundred and lead a mistrial. I is when she carried out the attack. She was sentenced to forty two years behind bars. Be back in just a moment to entertainment now and will. Smith has buried the hatchet with form of fresh prince of bel asfaw. Her he'd been feuding with for twenty seven years. Janet hubert played aunt. Vpn on the stripe three years before she was replaced reportedly because we'll complaints that she was difficult. The toy had a brutally honest discussion on camera during which they both apologized. But not before a genetic really let. We'll have it you know. Words can kill. I lost everything reputation. Everything everything and i understand you were able to move forward but you know those words calling a black woman. Difficult in hollywood kiss of death. It's the kiss of death and it's hard enough being a dark skinned back on in this business and finally teenage youtube star is dad's bad books after he totaled. He's dad's one of a kind four point six million dollars the seventeen year old crush the car in dallas texas and later took to instagram deci. She'd happens the teens. Doubt is a billionaire who owns a fleet of high end. Sports qasem recently splashed at twenty. Seven million. On a mega your. I think they'll be fine. That's from the newsroom. We'll be back with another uptight over the weekend food you'll headlines. News dot com.

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#132 King Ester Review feat Dane Edidi ( @THELadyDane )

Marsha's Plate: Black Trans Podcast

1:01:42 hr | 9 months ago

#132 King Ester Review feat Dane Edidi ( @THELadyDane )

"Hey what's up? This is your girl diamond styles and I am the master chef cooking you up something succulent and issue boys Here we are serving hot. Talk and cool. I see his set the tone and make sure the mood is writing. Come on in and get comfortable chair. Have the seat you can even take issues are way. Not if you're welcome China thrown to be you know more running around. It's not from the threat a your own. Aw PLO join. The conversation has tagged marshes played. I'll instagram facebook and twitter. We want to hear what you guys have to say. You could also help us bill community by becoming a patron on a Patriot dot com slash. Mars played by contributing to this podcast. You help us. Continue Our power for work to change culture one episode at a time. So let's get started. Hey what's up? Y'All this is your girl diamond and I am here with one of the amazing cash members of king after lady. Jane how are you? How Lousy I I? I've been very busy November and December. And so I am you know. I woke up a little bit later than I'm used to waking up today and I'm like we'll child so you know. Nesta is is coming out on a Friday it's been published and so I've been just dealing with bad and getting all that together so that folks can read it But I am great. I'm really really great. Yeah I think it was two thousand. Gosh I think I saw you at the Philly trans- house and you were doing jared in and Co produced a concert where we had artists from both nationally and internationally is it was a whole roster on coeds and poets and musicians coming together. Trans House to celebrate Black Boy. And so was called ascension. I think I think that's amazing. Because you know mean big and translate is my way so when you address. I'm like I was there the whole concert. It was fine and amazing because it was transformed. I was there like the sitting in the audience and performing but because it was right in the middle of downtown Philly there was sis folks listening and how they were jammed and it was just so I just a black as trans time. And it being my first my first introduction to you was in just do messenger because we you know we we love to give our ancestors love so we were talking about Arusha worship e fire and stuff like that just on our own spiritual level just as talking about it but muting you the first time in element of music. That was like an amazing experience for me when I was like. Oh my gosh. You're so sweet thank you. You know. It's really important or it's really important fries to celebrate US and for us to make art center's us because I think that I think that that's the way that we really do. The artistic work that we're really wanting to do is when we vow you and we appreciate and we uplift and we send we celebrate our own selves and our own experiences because our experiences are universal experiences. Right just human beings going through a human experience with different circumstances and little embellishments right. We still are humans going through human. We're not we're not. We're told out totally totally different. So the reason why I wanted to have you here is because I was thinking esther so if anybody has not heard of King Esther King Esso's a story of transitioning esther and she's struggling to find her path in New Orleans doing the weeks before Hurricane Katrina in the face of the evacuation order. She is forced to make a choice. That will impact our future forever. Will she get out in? Time will sell mets going on like found loves Jesus in a tumultuous relationship with her sister her brother and she has a great mom blah Blah Blah Blah so it was written and directed by doing your S. My brother your is is is a short form. Scripted series exploring the intersection between race and class and gender in like a unique. New Orleans context fan so ours stars. You is stars rowing on rowing. Janet Hubert Angelica rows play adding. Yes it's a black and Brown as Caz that is like oh I just love it. I love it so I wanted to. We were connected. I definitely wanted to showcase shoe and so you can give me some insight on your experience with it but can you tell me about what your career was like before you act that led up to the projects you know. It's funny because I always feel like. Oh how do you talk about your career right and and like for me? I always tell folks that you know I'm a healer. I am increased. As I am an artist I am. I'm performance artists. I'm an actress singer. Dancer I'm a playwright I am a writer has told was published and theater lines here in DC produced My First World Premiere which is Kinda Estrin epic slam poem Inmates Funding Eighteen. I just finished acting in a play over stage Easy to advocate. I'm call editing. The transfer prayer book. I am a mother. I am a dodger. I have someone who really believes that black chance. People have the right to live and to thrive. I am black. I am Nigerian Cuban and indigenous. And so my career was really about is really about being an artist right in about being a rounded artist academic and advocate and doing all of those things and so before Ching Astor. I you know I was doing the things that I'm still doing now Which means you know acting writing singing. Dancing Islas inner. Show time called way out by Sarah Album craning over a studio theatre and I do. He actually came to see the show because Julius friends with night good brother. Michael came to see me out. And that's actually how he came out. And that's actually how I got the role of Petra. Because he reached out to Michael and Michael hit me up. I WANNA I wanNA give my friends do your information. Because he wants to talk to you about a project and so he reached out to me To Chop as me really about a script and then also was by. I want you for the roll offs because of my work on way out. So what led to the audition? I didn't addition. He just said yes. I won't you got this way part black women who in play and they say you're the girl thing right like I actually seen is so hard for me number one because I i. It's hard for me because literally it's like okay so like going into auditions I is. I feel like a lot of times. I don't want auditions what I will do. On on a stage on the set of a movie et Cetera. When I get apart right so lake my dish in was me onstage. Way Out that was the audition. Yeah Yeah Yeah and then you know like and then also directors sometimes hit you up because they WANNA THEY WANNA buy are they WANNA see if they'll enjoy working to the phone call in a way is also another type of audition so I think that like roof. Yeah part of it is that we really are auditioning always and I believe that light being your most authentic south in your life Why importance to be your most in your line because someone is always Observing our. Tell me about how you felt when you read this. I thought it was beautiful. I thought that it was beautiful. It was every shot that you saw in in in the web series. Do we actually wrote the descriptions for an honest with you. His descriptions of actual settings are what drew me into his writing because they were so he he had a way of writing descriptions. In which you actually could you could. You could The image was down your mind and then on top of that right Esther foul to need to be like so many of my sisters that I knew. Ester is self aware right and I think that like there was no savior trope. There was no white savior trope. There was no esters need of salvation from you. Know Her sis- boo right. It was this is young. Black Trans was clear about where she wants to be in our life and that she was taking the necessary steps whether you agree with those steps are not right. She taking the necessary steps to you. Live her dream which was to be an actress. And that and you know I. I work with the director. I collaborate with the director a lot. My brother to be Douglas and we were doing our project one time and he talks about this and I love the way he puts their. You know a lot of times like the tragedy right is that the world doesn't believe or doesn't see or doesn't acknowledge the brilliance of certain individuals but by roster is brilliant. She is beautiful. She is amazing. She is self aware and she is not in need of a Savior Ryan. She's in need of a world that is willing to center and celebrate her brilliance But she's determined to carve out for herself and that's what I love about it and so for me. One thing that I wanted that I reflected back with was duly on in particular was You know wanting the scenes in which any type of violence happens particularly around astor to not be assured rain and also that I wanted to see one of the girls that got out. You know I think that one thing. That is very clear to me in my life. Is that your sister's your sister's period and I sometimes you now. You may be assistant. Who got your doctor degree? And you try to get out the girls all stroll but I still in community with those girls because even if you have never had to go out on shrove there's a system of oppression trying to kill us all and you and you can't. You can't educate your way out of a and prostes Jo wait out of it. You can't read your way out of it. You can't love your way out of it. You can't is just there and no matter. What stratosphere you go that is the common denominator that is oppressing us and is trying to get us regard whether you are a millionaire or you are. Are you had zero dollars in your bank account right like if you are Black Trans Woman? There's a system that is trying to end you period. Yeah that is ingrained and the White Supremacist Ideological Foundation colonization and thus the US and upheld by most people outside of your group babe out of just listen but like sometimes even but sometimes right as we said this right and so this is you notice the conversation and it's just the conversation Black Trans Women Right. Just put a black trams people community sometimes. We also internalize that right. And sometimes we also perpetuate Har- on China there because we were told right. We were told that it was love. And those things are not the same bank we were told that respectability politics would save us. We know that that's not true. Is Surgery if I look this way if I act this way if I don't do this if you know what I mean if I marry that rich white man if I X Y and Z apt somehow right somehow the system will find me acceptable enough that I don't have to live in fear anymore right and so for me within the within the the Web Series. I was like you know I wanna see WanNa see I wanna see one of the girls got out and and Delic arosh joining right like joining the joining light becoming an executive do service projects because she's also an actress right gave us the ability to show that right. La La. Oh my God I want to thank all of our new patrons this week. Thank you thank you. So not only. Are you helping to sustain this particular? Podcast you know. I also donate to other podcasts. Donate to other organizations. I have my finger on the post of the community and I know a lot of grassroots organizations. That are doing great workout here. So you're not only helping to sustain us. You're helping to sustain other people in a community because I put my money. Where my mouth is. You know that just kind of which I am community is so thank you. I really really appreciate you and if you have not become a patron why have you not? You can donate as low as a dollar a month. It doesn't matter anything helps. Please don't have to play Sarah Mclaughlin and show you puppies. Like what do I have to resort to do to get you to give them money anyway? Thank you and the Patriots and paper. Lincoln said about him back to the show. So do you remember where you were during Katrina guys to Katrina was an? Oh I I don't I don't remember where I don't remember where I was. I do know I was in DC. And I do know that I do you know I was in DC. And I do know that I was angry. I was angry at the government. Yes I remember I was. I was in India. Listen I was living. I had custody of my brother and I we were in our house on the South side of Indianapolis and I was just devastated. I didn't get angry initially because I just devastation. Just people on their rules and seeing how people talking I remember one of the Distinctive Memories that I have. Is this Little Queer. Blattman away with a spongebob t-shirt online and he had a very distinct very distinct accent and they came and asked him questions. And he's like a little maybe seven year old boy and he was so he just was on his talking points. You would have thought that he was by talking points where so on it like just you know how that you know the the saying you know from the mouth of Babes. He was just reading them like they like. This is what they brought. They just given US WATER. He was on and you. It was a you can tell that he was a queer little boy because he was he just had that spice baby is almost too painful to think about the impact. This disaster is having on the youngest among them. The survivors the thousands of children who can't comprehend what has just happened here but it will be stamped in their memories. They'll never be able to forget it what they're living through now. We wanted to hear from some of them tonight and here. They are in their own words and Shane. Then all the people out of hit him over three thousand people out of here. We know no shelter. We GonNa do look at life. Eat GRANDMOTHER THAT. She said she was she. She never had on the do long for me. It was it was kind of like a They'll be all right. They'll be all right. I know they're going to be alright. Because this if this person if this little baby boy can come out and talk about it in this way other people are talking about it in this way they just not putting the mic in their face. Then we got the Kinda West saying that. Yeah George was. Don't care about black people and it kind of blew up into this but that particular moment seeing a queer person queer little child just kind of reading them and say in the truth and then they played it. They didn't cut it they just put out there and it was so powerful. It was an amazing day. He had on. I don't know if anybody listening is going to remember. But he had on a blue blue blue shorts and a blue shirt with a yellow spongebob on the front and he just was. It was so point he was getting together. So that's what I distinctly remember. I mean this I mean say maybe do this and shoulder celine them right as I think you know. It's like to be to be black in America right like to constantly being that Our lives of constantly being told by business right that our lives should be in service to same country. That is deeply invested Killing you in ending your life is tough right. I was thinking about this today. I was thinking about like how hard I am on politicians and how some people were saying you. Just don't let up like all you know you gotta give credit where credit's due and you got to be loved by. Let me tell you something I stay. There has never been a politician who has been elected president. Ever in the history of this country that is specifically devoted specifically does dema. Words do voted to the livelihood and the the ability for Black Trans people to exist space of abundance and so all of my life I have been told to continue to choose the lesser of two evils and people don't understand how frustrating it can be when you have the clarity the clarity to see all the bullshit for what it is now. Yes there are. Some people will are more able than others. The orange one in the White House right is what Rabi listen. Rice Shelf. Serve and and don't care one bit but I do know what I felt like. Wow when I was told by President who still love people who were simply protesting digest of black people by the hands of the state at their form of protest on at this particular president. Call them though. I do know what I felt when he said that So and how dare you tell me to let up with correct correct? I say I was. I was speaking at a university one time and I said listen I said the. Us was was built on the genocide of indigenous peoples enslavement of black indigenous peoples. And I said from the minute right. That black people are born because of his wife. Ideological TRANSPHOBIC system. We are told that we should not be comfortable rain. So we learn how to live with being uncomfortable with persevere. We endure we conquer we survive. We thrive sometimes And we overcome so I am sorry person was privileged. But Not Sorry. No shame not but yes. You're going to have to learn how to be uncomfortable. Sometimes your own now you had a chance to go back and look at the full scope of King. Esther who've watched it. What are some of your favorite moments do you have? What is your favorite moment? Okay so I didn't get to. I didn't get found with found with Janet Hubert. I didn't get to come with her. But she was amazed she was made. It was until I hate. I figure with episode six when they were not they were on the shore of something and her and her friend. We're talking on that bench and the camera was in her face. I realize the whole time that it was James Hubert until Ma. That was the mud. Yeah yeah her scenes are some of our some of the I love her themes and so seeing her themes for the first time. Bright back at one of the I was like. Oh my gosh. She's a brilliant actress and and then also that's how areas right and then I didn't get film with Angelica. You know her character. Denise and my contracts are you know are at odds at odds And so we didn't get together so I loved Insurance Seen Right. When do we do? We sent me that scene. I was I- Badri so I had I had I had some reflections and they could make entities in education of the series. Yunan really hoping that Netflix can pick pick it up you know. Give us some coin so that we can do a second season because our love to implement some of the thoughts on into season to chat with Jillian about those I don't WanNA share it yet. Because we never know right so and then I must say the whole cast are so brilliant and that Rowen is business refers her first acting did and I'm so proud of her she. Oh my goodness what she does with astor. Nobody else could play her. Nobody blaster wish like you know if feels to me right that like there are certain roles where like an an actress. An afterlife takes on that role and it's like a list is your Ol- visit you know what I mean. I think how I think it happened with. You Know Jennifer Holliday as actually why you know defended it. I think it happened with Jennifer Hudson as in the movie. I think it happened was no Carter and give me a break crate and miss miss. Diane Carroll as Dominic Zebra some some roles literally inside wildly universe has aligned and she rowen was incredible and so I will have to say my favorite seeing out of the whole series behalf to if I have to just be. Why is the scene where we have to say goodbye to each other? And oh my gosh we did. I think maybe three takes and Was each take was hard like girl downstairs riot girl. I WanNa see you tomorrow. The CAST party and and at the you know the finished shooting party when the when the when they finished shooting May Through a dinner for all of us the cast crew the team And so my gosh. I can't even express to you how it became so clear to me in that moment that she and I have met in alive before she was more than likely either my daughter or my sister war as she is my sister now and that I want to. I want to do more projects with her and I and I think the relationship between women was quite interesting during the series. I love that. The mother wasn't some hateful mother. She was pretty consistently loving accepting. I love the relationship between your character and esther it does. They were honest with each other and they kind of was just a lot of the discussion of navigating client navigating edge navigating survival. I thought that was really amazing And then you know the relationship between her sister yeah. One of my favorite scenes of course is the campaign episode. Art was one that I you know. I am a hopeless romantic on some level. Actually when it comes to my art and so I like to see you know. I just like to see how people deal with intimacy and Trans. Women insist me. Yeah I liked you. See that being done in such a wonderful way that has context and realistic concept rain. So in regard to that I thought it was amazing because a lot of time than in real world context we because so many of us are Dina violence. And we don't get to explore the nuanced happen in love and the all the happens with insist men you now not the crazy ones. That would kill us but the ones that are just really not sure about you know themselves and you know they're young and exploring and they meet this person who is outside of the box that they are for whatever reason cosmetically or just on a basic level attracted to and how they navigate that When it comes to love you know exploration and you know seeing them like regardless of what the world is telling me. I still see you as a human being. I see who you are and I accept it. I like yeah and so other they really delivered it really really well. Oh Yeah I mean like you know. L J is amazing right L. J. Scott Key plays on Damon is. He is incredible. I mean he I love him. I think he's great and I think that I think that what I loved about that particular episode. Wise that we we got to see Black People Being young and in love right and we and it wasn't on there wasn't there wasn't a big to do about it right. It was written. You know who's accord and it was written was there was there was a courting happening. Absolutely yeah care is not just rooted in sexuality is rooted in. I like you as a person because I a good person. I'm trying to show you things that I think you would be interested in. It's also it's also rooted and not just like you as a person right but I am invested and you there's also It is also I am invested in you being all of who you are You understand because I think a lot of people can like us as people I think. A lot of people can't even say that they love certain things about us but but like you know relationship is a mirror as I think right in that when we stare into that mirror we have to be willing to enjoy the the thing that we observe right and so like. Damon's whole thing is that like I I celebrate and love or want to love or or like right because you know they just get to know each other or one like all of you and being open to that right and so I would be very interesting Interesting I'd be very interested in seeing you know if we would ever get a season to Both House arrived right would happen with with their relationship and also I want to be very clear that that esther really called into being the Tiber relationship. She wanted right. I think that like a lot of times we have the conversations about when a chance. A black woman in particular dating like man we like uplift assist man as if like as if like loving us was hard but we love we deserve to be pampered and celebrated right and lifted in a firm and And our relationships because we often do that right like city black. Trans Women Are Often Doha's firming. And uplifting unloving of their partners and I'm like well guess that is a that is a relationship so yes that's this partner should also be loving affirming years also. WanNa like celebrate pastor and talked about the fact that you know she really manifested that relationship for her bell right and I think when we when we talk about lifting them as you know like are loving. Us is hard what what when we when we do that. We're talking about outside people making it difficult. But a lot of times men will for go the easy interpersonal love that they can give. That is easy and so yeah humid. There might be some things that you might come up against In regards to you know like me. You homeboy family Blah Blah Blah. But Damon was really giving to me especially in the episode was it's the interpersonal thing. I'm showing you my interest. I'm talking I'm I'm getting you a Rome a fancy room that I got a discount on that I spent money on and I'm broke and I'm giving you this fine rose. Aj never tasted a champagne taste out of them. Saying these little things that are that can be easy easy ways to show love easy way to love. Us easy way you know for you to the interpersonal relationship between and a transforming that stuff is easy and so yes just because it's going to be some hard stuff that you may have to some obstacles that you may have to outside of there's going to be thrown at you that don't mean that you forego the love that you have the love that you show in the interpersonal way. Because that's easy absolutely. I think that you know in front of those things where it's funny because I was like. They're Gong to right after nine David. I got brow like things that are like super lovey dovey Stupor You know what is there? What is their love languages right? So it's so funny because I'm such a mother right. Would it their love? So I think that You know what I appreciate in the writings is that it literally is Super Stupor Affirming and super And then so. That's why I was saying that I would be very very interesting. You know if the theories get picked up a And we're able to season two if both of these characters have survived Then like how do we how these be? How does he see the fans of what it means to love right? Yeah and what does that look like? Being explored with those unique dynamics that comes with being in a relationship with a trans person. How do we see that explore? Yeah do you. Uh How do we right like? How do we houses we? I think any of love is free. Jury it so holly do we. So how do we houses show or variant? How did he show or veering into the bravery of these two painful and a way that feels And the way that the O. Deeply deeply authentic and also deeply different. Then would we have have been with we as women period right trans or this have been told Bravery feels like it comes to loving us as black women says portraying you understand what I'm saying like I'm really agile. I really hope that king advocates the them. And that's that's all about. You know people out there saying they love it and talking to people in the executive chairs and and making a big thing about it. Yeah so tell me about how. How did your relate your sister hoods in your life Inform how you portrayed this character you know how Petra. I feel like patron. I are very similar. down to Earth Mary Straightforward. Very real very. Mothering Yeah Yeah and I think that's how I realized right like I'm very much You know I when I need to be. I can be really you know. Aw Sweetie baby right And so for me. I felt like I felt like Felt like Do we have also in the perfect role for me right now. As far as the theories is concerned. Because I am used to having to be like big sister. Indoor you know mother to folks and that's fine. I mean I come from a family of black women who are very much like that as well. Like who are loving and affirming and you know we talk about trauma and things like that but for the most our caregivers by like taking care of people like loving on people and things and so I felt like for me what I loved about the writing was that Petra right would have been the same person whether she was whether she whether Stack Pirker or an executive of A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR COMPANY. Right back who who? She is her Koi her poor wrong. I thought that that was great. And then I and then I think that like you know I believe past lives and things that I believe that I believe that Rohan and I had met before the light and that connecting with her was like. Oh Wow it felt like pope this familiar. You know what I mean. And so it was great. I mean really. I can tell you that I was really nervous on but I I got onto the set Everyone else had already been filming. A by five is really really nervous. So both Berlin and and Julie were great and helping me Relax I sold you inside. You Know Sui had to whisper my ear and I and I'd be like just for hurting Our our first team had to with the right ear. Okay game just you know just doing great and I was like Rowen with though available like she was just so open right to shoot building to building and investing sisterhood. With me gain right. It helped at House. You're not what was interesting in the beginning in that out on say I had a problem with it. I got it but it in I want you to explore this a little bit with me. So there was a there was a scene with clients would client. It was blurred lobby traumatic but it seemed a little bit unrealistic. That is and I and I don't know I don't know first of all the beginning. So th there th. There is a for me as a trans person who had who spent five years doing sex work. It seems like people who are into US would not be somebody who didn't want to see us and there was an element. There was an element to that. I don't know it seemed like why did like that's not. I'm having experienced anybody telling me that they didn't want to see you. And that was weird to me buy that I think that like okay. So Oh my gosh several thing. Okay so I I have it now I I am say for myself That Has Happened to me before but not with a client. I just say that and that was about power and about transphobia. So let me say that I Lee-ing I think that like I think that that particular John I think that particular John is a manifestation of the system itself and how it what the guest of Wants to gift of what Black Trans Woman gives. We're now having to acknowledge the human dignity of I can also say that like you know my experiences and that it might in that world for Were Very It wasn't a stroll right like it was you know it was. It was a different experience. And so and so I. I personally you know you hear stories but I personally like client how. Yeah Clientele. I've been I've been on a stall in on Internet. I've been you know I've been. I've been both and I can see. I can see being a situation in a regular if you just meet in a tray but a person who is a client who who is spending their money on you it just that that just didn't that didn't ring true for me but I but I not the part where they're being overly aggressive totally have experienced that but it's just that particular part that was like oh I don't know I just don't that's the only part that didn't reach you. It just seemed like they. If they're spending their money they want. They want you to do cartwheels. They want you to do they want to. They want the even if they spending forty dollars. Honey they want you give them the Sun Moon Stars for that low raggedy as forty dollars and saying sold. I just haven't experienced where a client didn't WanNa see you you know. Of course they won't have position so that just that was a unique. That would that was interesting to me so I wanted to. Kind of explore that with you. Did you feel but I also think to Alto? Thank as well like how do we? How do we know right? This is actually not that particular. Find experience with all types of women because to me. That's what I got maxine. They're like this is. This is a man who who wants to be in control but who doesn't want to deal with the responsibility of dot control ray or or Or Yeah Yeah. That's what I thought by bike for me. I felt like I was the person who probably does that. Their home of his life. To where that. Where's that you now? The women in his life he probably thinks that the women in his life of service to have. Yeah I can see two or or he's taking it out on esther or he doesn't have that amount of control in his relationship with women his life because systematically and socially it's not okay to be that abusive and so he can come to esther to get that kind of power that he can't get outside in the world. I mean when we think right when we think about decriminalization at why think it's important for us to decriminalise sex work And that when you listen to the people who say that they don't want to decriminalize it. Oftentimes you have to wonder. Why is it because they actually want to be able to have power and or via to abuse in a clandestine way in a way that right because if you decriminalize effect working you actually make it? Legal then clients right your clientele. John has to be held accountable now. Theoretically right theoretically be held accountable is if the day is not if the state right quote unquote is not invested in protecting that for her this radical right because we all know we all know that the state was supposed to do and what they do what they're supposed to do and what they actually do two different things correct right if they are supposed to protect back worker. Then that means that your Tien Tau are the answer to the state if they get a little messy right or violate so Could be that as well. You know what is your idea of? What are some of your takeaways that you think a person who is watching this show? That is not trained to really really hone in on. Oh Gosh I gotta laugh okay. Number wine we need more. We need more Black Trans Narrative period. Like I to see more. I want to see more. I WANNA see more black women leading shows. I WANNA see more black trans men leading shows. I WANNA see more Black Trans Non Binary folks leading shows like being the lead of show We need more We need more black people consulting on writing We need or Black Trans People in the Executive Producer Chair We have a responsibility as a community. Just a society as a people to make it possible for every person particularly Black Trans people to be able to live there most authentic affirming life and that we have a responsibility to allow to I. Four shoe PROTAC. the lives of A. I don't want to stay. Allow two five four to protect the lives of lectures. People definitely definitely definitely definitely so I want to thank you for coming on the show and talking to us about it and I want to thank all the cast and the directors are now the people who I know a lot of. Y'All I heard in interview At the end they every time they episode they do read Cups and Rosa episode on the air and they were you know they really explained that a lot of people were how this became created is a lot of people was doing it at a. Labor of love. A lot of people weren't getting paid a lot of people were just doing it because they thought the story was so important so I want to thank everybody who created this story. I think it was unique. I actually personally know a trans girl who went through Katrina and some of the things that she talked about was was displayed in talked Abou Authentic. And I really enjoyed it area. I Love I love my family and I think that you know you really really believe in this. We've really really believe in the project. We really really believe an after race. And so Yeah thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you and thank you to everyone out there who has shown This project so much of and has shown us so much love Hoping that we get a season two I am. I'm also hoping that even Beyond chewed fits really opened up The way for A lot of acting careers as well. Isa Raymond's Y'all he's raise is on her channel. It was it was made through her company. Doll I feel like I feel like you know you could have. I think you I think we can have like another show about King Arthur in a vice like a bunch of people. I think that You Know Carleen and Dewey and angelico could really talk a lot more about the production aspect of it you can have like and like how king to be on On a production entity on If the rave production youtube I know there were a lot of work that went into it and you know they were updating me on pain for me. It was by cables under those things like I was. I was deeply invested in the other side of it. Free to fight up. It a also had to have their toes And and their hands and the business side of it And so I feel like maybe they could come on and chat about like how the evolution of that Yeah that would be good. I would. I'm totally down. You Know Me. And Angelica hit each other up so we definitely want to make that happen so I want everyone of you. Who are listening. I'm going to put a link to the first episode down in the bottom so you can go check it out. If you never heard of it. Go enjoy in his shot so beautifully it is so artistic the characters are nice. It's just it's just so great so go support. It makes you. You hear that anybody who inspires you. Say Them Up. Show them love show. Make sure you have stacking esther if you're talking about it just so we can get that kind of resignation on the Internet so we can get people talking about it even more than what they have already talked about it so go check it out and the link is going to be on the bottom. Thank you for joining today. 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226. Actress Daphne Maxwell Reid - Being 'Aunt Viv' in The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, racism and life lessons

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226. Actress Daphne Maxwell Reid - Being 'Aunt Viv' in The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, racism and life lessons

"It was icon and it plays to the next generation and it plays to the next generation because we still dealing with family dynamics and try to make good decisions it made for an iconic show. I had no idea it was going to be as iconic as it has become and will head to learn on the job and he was an open book. I'm proud of his ability to open himself up to learn what he needed to do to be better at what he was attempting to new listening to made of also known as the pod podcast hosted by sophie shaken who is a danish comedian law. Aw for this episode to make complete sense. You do need the full context. I'm foia sold. And i'm sitting on my mother's bed in her bedroom in the small village of sun tzu in denmark. I don't let the outside. I don't have many friends. So i'm just flicking through channels on the tiny tiny tv. I find an american sitcom on some small channel so small that there were no subtitles and of course. They're all speaking english. So i don't understand what's happening. All i hear is people laughing and i sit there and i watch it and very soon i begin to understand what's happening on the show and what they're saying. I'm now thirty two. And i'm sitting in my kitchen with my dog hank making a lot of noise in the background. A wi fi. Sunday decided to get incredibly active. But i guess. I am glad that he did not really do that at the conversation. Please don't play with that now. Is that possible. That was five. He's also fattening housing. That i've just finished recording this conversation that you're about to listen to its ten pm and i've been crying because the tv show fresh prince of bel-air meant so much to so many and i'm one of them. I must have watched it at least thirty times. Beginning with that time On my mother's bed when i was four years old. So i hope to daphne maxwell reid who played on after she replace janet hubert from season fall was surreal dream. Come true and own of the english. I knew that i had learned because of her. Twenty eight years ago flew right out the window. I could remember how to speak ironic. I'm gonna be honest with you. I come across as an absolute deep. I sound super ignorant. And just listen to this episode. Full daphne's wisdom and calm and her kindness. Because in this episode. I am a mess. Oh also during her reply to the last question the baby question if you listen carefully my dog hank thoughts quite loudly in the middle of it. I really really hope that didn't make the recording can be client. Keep much so. I can't think of a better way to end twenty twenty than with four year. Old me getting to talk to the lady on the television who saying things that makes people laugh. Please enjoy my conversation with. Oh my god. I can't believe daphne maxwell reid Meeting me in the afternoon. A sunny afternoon in richmond virginia. And i'm in my a creative studio in my house. And that's where i've spent mike kobe days so it's been a creative time for me and in my head i've i've welcomed being able to slow down and focus on my interior and helped develop that into the person that i really wanted to be and i guess in my life. I'm in a very good place with wonderful children and grandchildren and a lovely lovely dear husband in. I'm in a good place. That's so good to hear. Okay so take me all the way back. Where did you grow up. I grew up in manhattan. The middle of manhattan. What they call the projects the housing developments for poor people all right and My father had been in the army so he was able to secure one of these apartments. And that's where. I grew up and spent eighteen lovely years in new york at a great time where there were so many cultural outlets and beautiful things going on in new york in wonderful people to meet and i wear i live Was right across the street from where they eventually built lincoln center so i watched lincoln center. Come up so there was the hall in the state theater and the ballet the opera house. It was all across the street from where i live. So i had a lot of access to culture and international people from all over and i was a smart little girl so i did well in school and progressed and because my mother was a kind of leadership kind of person i became a leadership kind of person. And what my husband calls bossy. But it's all in how you view it. And that's i spent my life being blessed by god with lots of gifts that i've been trying to manifest ever since saying what was it like. You said your dad was in the military. So was he was that during world war two. Yes yes he had been to italy and all of that but he was finished with being in the military. When i was born october and He was home and he became a soda jerk. Do you know what that no i have. No idea okay if you have a drug store that has a counter. Where they're selling. Sodas and malteds milkshakes the guy who makes all the milkshakes and all that stuff that's amazing so that's what he was doing but he had been to school to be a photographer which he never did do except for taking pictures of us when we were growing up. So i've got a million and a half photos of my family growing up so it's a lovely treasure that i have has not been what's clearest memory of your mother being a leadership person. She was always involved in the church and in the community and what she would do was plan things and have executed by the community and she did fairs and little. She had wonderful school. It wasn't really a school. It was kinda like anybody wants to come and learn how to sew. Come here to this place at this time. And she was raising the kids in the neighborhood that way and she just was in charge of running things. I mean dad went to work and mom was at home so she was running things. And you just pick up on that. I kind of was thrown into it. You know it's expected of one when you're around a strong woman. You're expected to be a strong woman. And i being her favorite daughter because i was her only daughter she and i had a sisterly relationship. My father was fourteen years older than her so she was a kind of closer to me was to being his hair and so we grew up like sisters in the family and it was a joy she was just a lovely lovely person. Do you have anything. is that from. That helps you when you sat acting and when you start additions and all of that helps to be a leader in person. Know what helps you. if you're doing. Auditions is to have a good self image. Add to not take that stuff personally because it really has nothing to do with you. Personally when you go to an audition the person who your additioning for has an idea in their mind of what they want this person to look like sound like be like according to how they created that person on the page and if you walk in there and you are not in that in his or her frame of mind. It's not your job. So i don't ever take personally. I go to audition. i do my best. I come prepared and if it's mine great. Let's get to work and make this character come to life or if it's not mine it's thank you. It was nice meeting you. I have things i can do. I've got other things to do. So i don't take. I don't take it as rejection. It's they didn't reject me. They just didn't choose me and if one wants to be an actor you have to wait to be chosen so your frame of mind has to be be prepared for when you're chosen and also do something else that you love that you have a passion about so you eat. Do you always have this A sounds like a very healthy set to it that you have that from the beginning. Oh yeah because all the things that happened to me were blessings. They weren't like i was i got. I've never had that passion. My passions are more. Oh that sounds interesting. Yeah i'll take that journey and go see where the journey lead. Zan learn as much as i can along the journey and see who i can meet along the journey and we'll keep asking me so what's next. I have no idea. Whatever opportunity arises that i feel prepared for or adventurous enough to get into. That's what i'll be doing next. So what was it that made you want to do acting that. How to because it's such an exciting thing. No no no. I never did want to become an actor. I believe came an actor. I started off as a model which i didn't want to be either but all they said was come here. Sit here smile. I can do that and they wanted to pay me to do that so i met them and i i. These are my blessings and the modeling led to commercials. And i was adept at them. Because i'm pretty outgoing person. And i also studied when i was in high school after school i was in a theater group and it was fun so said oh yeah this is fun but never had a thought that i could make a living doing this. I didn't have examples a bad to look up to so that was not on my career path as they say so. It just came with opportunity. I was discovered as a model for television. Show a guy named robert. Conrad you'll have to look him up. 'cause he's way before your time and he gave me my first job in a show that he did call the duke which was shooting in chicago and we hit it off. I did a good job. And when i left chicago and moved to l. a. Of course i called him. So i'm in town now and he said oh. I got another part for you in this show that i'm doing called had called slow. I sit. that's lovely. And i was able to secure an agent. Because i had a job and that started another bowl road. I'm not going. I gotta be. It'd be an actor. know it was. Hey this is spun. Yeah do this until they tell me to stop stop. So do you ever have moments of. Will you ever have moments where you sort of sat down and thought. Oh this is what's happening like this is what my life is. You know if it was never a conscious decision to go my goal is over here. And i'm i'm here and i'm going to need to reach it somehow. If it just happens one day at a time do you have a sort of ground yourself and go. Whoa what what just happened Every once in a while. I get a wow. That's really exciting. I i'm in a position where i can enjoy that But i live in the present. I don't live in the past. i don't live in the future. I kind of i'm here. I'm now my journey is what's happening next today. I have to keep a calendar. Because i can't keep in my head. What's happening tomorrow. So i let some people plan some things for me but otherwise i'm i'm open to what's next and today. I started a new project in my house. Redesigning my studio space. So i had movers in here. Taken furniture out at carpenters in measuring things. Let's see where this goes. So does that when you make a decision like that. How long does it take from you to get the idea to you. Actually do it. Sometimes it takes years. I'm looking at this piece of furniture in my studio for the longest time. Is i hate it. It doesn't hold enough is taking up too much room. I want it gone and finally last week. I said i'm going to make it gone but it took a long time to just kind of it was peripheral and then i made it a focus and once made it a focus them. The whole surrounding became the project. Not just getting rid of that furniture but being able to create a space. That i'll be more comfortable in your career. It's quite the such a different. Sometimes you will do things like Be like a guest style on the show where you only have to go there once a year to do it then. Of course you have biggest pre-exile series that whole series. Do you prefer the ones where you get to jump in and out in a lot of things happening at the same time or is that not even from a series i. It's no it's work. And i like working. And if it's a guest starring role great. That doesn't interrupt other things that i'm doing. Just go to one or two days or three days and series is great. Because you know that you're going to work the next week and you get to see these people again at ben have another adventure of what this is going to be this week. So they both have their court Positives and there are no negatives Hell how does this is going to be such an amateur question from someone who does not act at all the. I'm always very curious about the moment that you become your character. In the moment you step out of it. Is that something that happens in a split second. Do you have to get into the soon or how does that actually work like seconds. The second dumb actors. Go through that process a i read the script. They hired me to bring what i have to that. So what i give them is more of me so i don't have to become somewhat on my side you know unless that's the part and i love playing ruby stuff like that so every once in awhile i'll do a horror film or something but For me it is turn on when you're in the environment focus on where you're where the script is going because it's never shot in order so you know what you're feeling way at the beginning of the script and what you're gonna feel at the end of the script and where you are in that progression of feeling so that's the only thing that you really have to pay attention to besides not messing up the guys words. Hit your mark. They'll bump into the furniture and say how what are you. What's the word is it. A do acting is learning thing. Do you learn anything about yourself by taking on these a bit different traits and i bike being in a horror. Setting all is is there anything. That's self exploration or to just work. Its work i don't need to self explore. I'm an older woman who's been fully explored. No no no no Acting is more listening and reacting than putting forth the initial if that makes any sense to you a good actor is not sitting there waiting to say their lines. A good actors listening to what that other person is saying and reacting to that. And if you can do that and stay in the moment of where you are then you'll have a successful scene. Which is a bunch of scenes together to fill out that During like around this time you said that you had sort of found out who you want to who you are who you want to be one of you. What have you found out. I found out that. I am very very comfortable with who i am and that anyone who has something else to say about that matters not to me. It'll and having time to sit down and realize that you have the strength to be yourself and it takes strength because you're always surrounded with you should you should you should. Why don't you should i may. This is what i want to do. It's not urgent body. And i want to be known as somebody who was present. Who was listening to the people that were talking to and who was leaving a legacy of kindness and generosity. That's it that's all i need. I have a family. I have loved. I'm not looking for the world to fall in love with me and elevate me too so they can knock me down again now. I very very comfortable with my age. Which is a wonderful place to be because you struggle in the thirties in the forties. You have to prove yourself open in in your fifties. I've proven myself. And by your sixties you say i did a darn good job of proving myself and then by your seventies you say what did real good job in. I influenced this person by person in these people and both people and i left kindness here and that is the goal of existence. It seems is to do something with this talent. You have been given at birth expressing it sharing it and making whatever part of the community better that you want to deal with so set a case of no regrets. Oh there's no point regretting what you can't do anything about. It would lead that baggage somewhere else. No i have no regrets. I've done some really And i'm going. Yes i did. I learned from them. I won't do that again. Yeah but i don't regret it because it makes you the person that you are and you have to have both the what people call failures as well as the successes because it's all a learning experience solid journey and the failures are just assigned point assigned folks that says go a different direction. This one doesn't get you where you wanna go. Get up keep go. Have you always been good at handling failures of what you would call regrets and failures and everything. That's like ness feelings. I'm a move on. Okay yep okay. Sorry yeah i heard okay. Now that's done i apologize. Let's move on. So how do you do you think it would have been. Do you think you would have felt the same way. Had you grown up now with social media where everything is nut. I can imagine a lot more accessible. Oh it's it's easy for people to sort of reach you and tell you what they think. I think people who are listening to social media as a means of growth are on a bed track social media for me is saying. I use it to advertise. Hey i'm going to be doing this. Watch it if you want. Hey this is a success. I had i'd like to share with you. I don't do politics online. I don't get into those kind of conversations with strangers. I talked to people one on one about things that mean that kind of thing to me but social media is just a tool. It's not a way of life is not a lifestyle except summer trying to make it. So and i hope they're lifestyle exists when they move onto the next person and started during you out so i am media change the way you guys see life but what we had was a lot more work to do. You had to research things you had to use a Books sorry can you explain. Abramson sounds like lot of work but it is but did it feels good in your fingers. Do it was just a different way of learning I have had the privilege of trying to keep up with you guys. I've been computer literate since the early eighties. So i've always used the computer and understand the power of the new technology. I try to keep up when i can't keep up. I find me a young one who could teach me because you grew up with access to all these tools. So they're not strange to you so it's easy for you to learn it as you learn english as a four year old but for us. It's on learning something else to learn this. And that makes it a little more difficult. But i i'm with you. I'm i'm ready to go won't so obviously. When fresh prince came out. I had no idea of how things were received in the world because i was in a tiny village and then mike. I've watched it which i do think about once a year at least and it feels like if it was on. Tv now it would be. It would be considered progressive. So i can only imagine that. It was incredibly progressive. When it came out in the ninety s i would say it is Relevant rather than progressive It was relevant to its time and its longevity is probably because the stories were universal stories. It was a universal Fish out of water story with will come into a whole different environment than what he grew up with and the family was consp- posed of five different points of view. So you got to hear all the different points of view to get to a conclusion to a problem which is how families work in real life and because it was that kind of dynamic it was icon and it plays to the next generation and it plays to the next generation because still dealing with family dynamics and try to make good decisions and it made for an iconic show. I had no idea it was going to be as iconic as it has become. I had done lots of other series before the prince of bel-air at i thought they were terrific. A scissor pot up. Fresh prince was also. I mean that's where i learned about. Economics asked my mother to get me a book about malcolm x. because we'll have a poster about malcolm x. and they're all these references to like the black panthers and social justice stuff that i feel like if that was on. Tv now it will be politicized. Almost redeemed too radical tv. But i know they're doing it now. There they are now producing Sitcoms that are talking about black lives matter talking about. Be careful my son. Don't let the police can you. This is what you do. If you get stopped by the police. The lessons that we are taught have been the same lessons for the past four hundred years so it's not like any of that stuff is progressive to us. It's progressive to people who don't know the culture and don't know that this is normal culture to us. The did feel at the time when it came out was it received a something that was saiga a revelation to people like well to white people right. No they were always part of the audience they liked will. I think will's charisma. Is what drew so. Many people to him He has such a life of a light in him. he's just a beam and people want to know what he's saying all look at what he's doing he has captured. The world his charisma. And that's just who he is. He doesn't try to be that way he just is he. He has that what we call that things and it's working for him. I could see that. He had a very bright light. When i started working with him because he brought a hundred eighty percent to rehearsal and he was always listening and wondering what the taking notes and allowing people to give him notes how to make things better and he was listening in how to be a good businessman so show business is two words. Yeah i got the showdown get the business down. And he was able to do both and make an empire out of it. Which i very very proud of him. He did a good job. Yeah i think you can save to be proud of him. Of course anti sprouted you you. You've played a lot of different roles. You mentioned the horror of like a horror film but then you reasonably hopped up in. That's how i saw it was. Oh my inherit as well. Yes and if you look at aunt viv and harry like those two pieces of wagga very different right. They both me. Yeah i was channeling. My mother playing haret's sidekick one of the people who's running away. I add on no makeup. And i had the scarf tied around my head the entire time i was in costume and i was in the time that we were shooting. Cynthia revolt is an amazing amazing talent and she grasped the enormity of what she was doing and it was kind of infectious and i felt like we were escaping like they were dogs chasing us. I actually felt like that. As i was doing the role because she brought that an i joined forces with her. I was so honored to be to make that little hard inherit. I was so proud. I was just so proud because it was such an amazing experience being run by directed by a black woman and produced by a black woman and lead bio wonderful black female talent. These are things that i have been looking forward to honoring. Since i've been in this business and it was a joy. An absolute joy to be part of that i can ima- i saw her on broadway in a color purple purple. She would get several standing. Applause breaks during his on his own disease. Yeah it's. I'm glad to hear that translates into working with all and she's such a down to earth person she's just She is at the house where dinner and just sitting chat and talking and just basically a good good talented person who knows how to use her craft and she boy when she sang our theme song from harriet. The academy awards. I'm watching in television at all because that song moves me so much when they first played it when we had We saw a small edit of the film and they said this is the song that we're and they played it. And i cried and i said this will be nominated for an oscar. I i can hear. This song is going to move people and it was. She was just amazing. Absolutely amazing so what does it mean having a black director that producer. What does that mean in comparison to not having that there's a language a cultural language that you don't have to articulate when you're working with people who share your culture and that makes for a different environment otherwise it's just folks to me. I really don't care whether black or white as long as they are good at what they're doing so i didn't have too much of a stretch but it was just it felt like an honor. So that's how i felt about. It wasn't was it like taking on that role and you set you. Were in the time and you felt like you were being. Did that have any sort of pass. No meaning to how you thought about your life. Your history Emotions we have been my husband. And i have been Working in this business for forty five years and he is a creative person who has always created cultural Documentaries films so all of that. The history of black america is very ingrained in all the stories that we share so knowing that and knowing the the struggle to survive. That was that time. It was not hard to just immerse yourself in actually struggling to survive. And that's how. I took it and a couple of the Younger kids who who were in the group that i was in a runaway They would be kidding around before we got ready to shoot in. And i would have to slow them down me. Focus be present here. We need your presence here. Not kidding around so they dumped on and they get into it. But it's easy once you know your history to be able to relive that and express that and isn't easy to do and is it s so it's easy to do but is it also easy to trace. This is it. Oh i mean yeah. That's a good question as well. Yeah it's acting so the right cut. You can go home now so i think what i'm wondering is your relationship with how easy it is because in theory i mean it would be a wonderful world if it wasn't easy to just relate it's not yes if it if the circumstances were not as fraught it would be lovely. But they are what they are. So that's part of the no regrets. It is what it is deal with it and move on. I can accept it. I can share it. And i move on. I don't carry it as a burden in my daily life. It's it's not a burden. It's a burden when i bump into somebody who wants to call be a name or tell me i can't do something because i'm black i'm going no that's your problem is not by problem. I'm gonna do you have to do. It's i've always been that way and I don't feel demonized by. I don't feel dragged down by it. I understand it and i understand. Some people are still in the throes of it. And i feel for them but i am not in the throes of it and i understand it and i accept it and i want to change it. But i'm not in the throes. Have you seen enough change things getting better. Things are being verbalised at this time We have a an orange haired blocker. that is keeping us from moving forward so as soon as we can decide Where we can hide him under a rock effing. We may be able to move forward with new policy because understanding has been expanded because of the movement and things are coming to light that have always come to light but now there are few other people who are paying attention to it so when the white community pays attention to my son get stopped by the cops and fearing for his life than understand where i'm coming from saying i'm sorry but no he can't go there because it's dangerous. What's so dangerous about as well. We have a history of and it hasn't changed so we have to be careful but we're mad. Yes you're married to a tim. Read your husband's yes. It sounds like an amazing marriage where you can work together. And am i wrong. We worked together for years. What's the now no no. He has his studio. And i have my place. And he does his thing. And i do my thang. And we support each other but No we worked together long enough. What's the secret to be able to even do that. To begin with uber. Respect and humor you respect someone and you can roll with the punches because you know there is a basis of respect than a little slights. Don't throw you and you can help each other through difficult times as melissa. Enjoy some fun times. Stick with times. Where you i mean in general in your life have there been moments where you have felt like you were almost pushed to the edge where you need to have a big old talk with yourself has the has been really difficult moments where you somehow managed to get through them. Yes and you get through them with help yes i. I've been up against that wall. Yeah i do good at asking for hell. I become better at asking for yes and i appreciate the help when i get it. Yeah yeah how do you learn to do that. You have to allow yourself to be vulnerable. Oh that's that's that's that's an annoying answer. How deliver that story about that. I you can with our ability at times and at times it makes me cry it but i don't die. There's always what's next and either you take whatever action you need to take or you walk away from it. I your arrest. Wrist sleet type. Rest doing nothing wrist. I cannot do nothing no no. I can't stop my hands. Have a life of their own a and they like being busy. And if i have slow time soon i do something with my hands that can accommodate the slow too. I can knit. I can needle quake. I cannot just do nothing. what's the why if you listen to feels like there's a lot of energy then. A lot of sometimes go less energetic. I can pastes my cell but it's not doing nothing. If i have to take a day where i say i cannot cope with another inch i will lay myself down and take the day and not feel guilty about it and not try to reward myself for it just it is a day. That is a down day and i'm taking it and then the next day you find your purpose and you get up and you move on. I don't stay down long. I mean it just needs to teach them how to do all of that. You just have to be excited about the journey. That's my excitement. That's my passion what's next. What's this journey going to lead to what i gotta learn. What can i share. How can i manifest this idea. It's all his going on. And you have to kinda get tickets that quite down quite all right. We're focusing on here right now. I'm and sometimes it allows you to do that and sometimes things get jumbled up in you have to take a pause and say wait wait wait wait pick one pick one and move in one direction because you can't go in four directions the same but you to if you could. Oh i'd like to. I have so many things i want to do. So many things. I want to learn and i'm a traveler. The worst part of this year is the trips. That i have missed taking and i i really am really anxious for this little bug to go away so that i can traverse the earth again as i have been doing for the past thirty years west. The fest are gonna go see. I have no idea. I think i want to go to a beach. I just a little sunshine and and Alcohol i mean. I've had that you can still have that in your house actually. Well yeah but it's not. It's not the same as little umbrella. Day have a drink at night. I'm going okay. Why okay. This is not pointing. Danny fun break never mind. I don't know if you recognize this feeling. But when i go back to lega school reunion even when it just go back to the town i grew up. I feel like. I'm right back to being the passing that i was at the time. Did you have the same. Did you have anything like that when you did. The fresh prince reunion Not the person that i was then but the memories that i had been all very pleasant and to be together each one of us all at the same time at the same place was the joy of reunion. We see each other. I we've been to weddings and sadly funerals and we go to comecon together. We don't all get together at the same time and for will to call us all in together at the same time was just the biggest treat that we could imagine. It was so joyful was a week of joy and we just it kind of superseded the endemic because it was in the smack dab in the middle of the pandemic but the protocols that were set up were just marvelous and the testing in the masks in the everything was so well done that. We could feel comfortable hugging somebody for the first time in months and was said set previously that you learned a lot about things that had been going on behind the scenes had no idea about what was that. Put things That put the past Different picture was delightful. It was delightful. We got to see some of the auditions that the cast members had done and they hadn't seen them. I mean they don't show you your audition and we got to see their auditions and it was a hoot and they gave comments like they hired that person so it was kind of those delightful kinds of things that were revealed. And how b. How will i got introduced to the idea of doing the fresh prince in how quincy jones found him and said i wanted to do this at how quincy jones knew that he had that something and he said. This is what i want you to do. You wanna do it Well i i need an acting. Coach is d. Want wanna do it. And he said okay he says okay. I'm going to sell this now. And he sold it and will had to learn on the job and he was an open book. So i'm proud of his ability to open himself up to learn what he needed to do to be better at what he was attempting to do. I have to ask this yesterday. The last episode afraid friends. Yes did you cry as much. Yes yes yes all day all week. Oh no we had the table reading. And there's parts of that in the reunion and we knew this was the last time we were going to do this. And then we got and we did our scenes and each scene. You knew you would never gonna have act to agai- and then when they took the furniture out of the house we go into the We're not gonna be here anymore. We're not gonna come together as a family anymore and have this fun. We're not gonna be able to share this joy anymore in this kind of setting and we cried after every scene we had to stop a scene sometimes with cry. I mean you you get that from watching. It was true-to-life it was. It was an honest portrayal of what we went through. Do you ever watch it. But the show. Yeah sometimes i do yeah. I was on instagram. The other day and there was a scene. That was playing. And i said i don't even remember being there but that's me remember this show at all because i haven't Rain and once i the script done gone. Don't ask me about that script again. it's gone. I'm onto the next one so i can watch the shows. Oh yes. I remember that outfit. Oh that a yeah. Didn't like my hair that day. okay you know. Those are the kinds of things that i see when i re watched the show and sometimes i just watch it to laugh. What a delightful show. I mean it's still funny. It's funny so befall. I ask you the last question that you should ask the podcast. I wanna ask again. Where are you now in your head. Space was there anything that you 'cause i met. You've probably been asked all these questions so many times before and you must be death talking about fresh friends. No really now. It's such a delight so much to me. It really means so much to me and the that people are still willing to share. That joy is delightful about that. How do you feel. Now what are you what are you. What's next in today in your day today. What are you doing after this. A young man On it by email ordered to masks. And i have to make one of them so i i only had one but he chose one that had sold out so i just cut it out while i was waiting for you and i'm going to sit down with sewing machine and make that mask and put it in the mail for him asks. Oh yes oh with half of filters in them for protection of you and me go on my website. Dally maxwell re dot com. I'm definitely doing that all lovely things there and you'll see on my designing my photography and all the things that i do when i'm not acting so that nice little resource for you. That's what i'm doing today and then ordering dinner. What does that. I'm good at. I think my husband wants to lamb chops and we have a favorite restaurant. So i'm going to order him. Some lamb chops and see what else is on the menu magical so the last question that i always ask this past. Isn't this so you in the delivery room and you have just been born. Tiny tiny. daphne has just been born. And you dan now holding yourself as a baby yes. Daphne is crying because she was just in the room and it was all nice and warm and comfortable but now suddenly she's out in this lights and sounds and people and she's like what is happening and just looking at you and she's like you know what's what the next Rest of my life is going to be like what is it. Is it just going to be sounds as it all going to be very confusing. What is going to happen and you can't change anything. You can't give yourself advice because everything will happen exactly the way it has happened. You can tell. Teeny tiny daphne. While the answer to a question which is what is going. What is this. What is like what's going to happen to me. What would you say. So teeny tiny baby. You little teeny tiny baby me you are loved and you will have wonderful adventures and you will be locked and you will give laugh and the greatest of these is the gift of love so shine my dear shine. That's amazing so thanks for doing this as the light. Miss sophie cue thank you so what what do people go and see the plucky steph. You set your website. You've got in masks on your website. I love books. I've got not good. Yes i published books of the photography that i've done. I have calendars for sale for twenty twenty one. Because it's going to be a better year than this and it just is. My gift to the world is all my talents for sale. I miss christmas movie. I in christmas movie on. Bt plus which is a streaming network and it's called the business of christmas amazing anything else you want people to go and check out. And that's all that's on there now but watch that reunion and bring you a tissue box with you. Know not only ability. Daphne you know there's no but it's just a tender. It's not a vulnerable listen. This has been an absolute dream. Thank you so so much. Thank you for having me. Where are you now in amsterdam or with. I'm in london london. Yeah i'll be in wales in the spring so really. Why in wells comecon. Oh no idea that so cool signing pictures and taking pictures with our fans. Yeah i mean. I'm going to just make a little note. Okay i i'm gonna like it. Oh yes it's okay. Oh it's so beautiful. People assume is being that we will be able to take this trip. In april away is everything will be calm down by. Then i know well in wales. They're quite good. That could you know. England not so good at keeping the house and all of that the world will not like to fly into their country now so they have well well. You have a wonderful holiday. Sophie too much for doing this again and i'll be tagging and things on social media but don't you don't have to worry about that thank you thank you thank you were. Lorie is going to be in touch with you. And ask for a copy or aware point. Listen much you'd sue. Oh i did not get to ask. Daphne maxwell reid the extra questions that i usually ask because of nerves. I'm just going to say it. it's nerves again. 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Will Smith and Janet Hubert Finally Make Amends, Meghan Markle Admits to Contributing to Finding Freedom - Daily Pop 11/19/20

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Will Smith and Janet Hubert Finally Make Amends, Meghan Markle Admits to Contributing to Finding Freedom - Daily Pop 11/19/20

"Today we are talking makeovers sex and lies. We have so much drama. Get today up. I is one of hollywood's most famous longstanding foods. And will smith just shut it down so we'll and the first vibe. Janet hubert made amends during the fresh prince of bel-air reunion which just premiered on. hbo maximum. They both admitted in hard time for them over the years then genuine deep into just how much the feud cost her. When i left the show. I have this new baby and no one. Family disowned me. Hollywood disowned me. What you didn't realize either. That i was going through a lot at home right. You can no no very abusive marriage. You know i have. Children been divorced and second marriage and i can see now the level of pain and the level of struggle. But you know those words calling a black woman. Difficult in hollywood is to kiss of death death in your baskin back. When the president i wanna be is someone who protects you not someone at unleashes dodds. Wow so that was pretty deep. Why do you guys think it took them so long to finally have this heart to heart conversation. I'm actually surprised that didn't happen sooner off camera surprise at all that it didn't happen sooner. You know when you're in a feud with samadi and it's fresh and it hurts and then after a few months after a year five years goes by you. Just have a hard place for that person. You're not mad at them but you just don't wish them well. I think they got so use of that. Feeling of anger towards one another that just became a part of their lives and they probably for a long time. Didn't even realize and god what that feud was even a bout because it had been twenty seven years. Oh i disagree see. I don't think she's forgotten. What that feud is about for one second. I first of all. I started watching this last night and then stopped watching before this part. Of course those excited rundown this morning. This is some serious stuff. I mean obviously watching the fresh prince growing up realizing that and had been switched out with no. I realized that and i don't even remember how old we were. We were young. But i mean for things have gotten as bad as they did will smith and one of his co stars and we kind of nowhere to be this lovable likable hilarious guy. Like i was really surprised and for her to say you know to label the dark skinned black woman. Difficult in hollywood like as somebody that i was working with somebody that i was supposed to be family with has derailed my career for thirty years so little. It's a little too little too late. And i'm a huge will smith fan but once i kind of read what was going on between the two of them. It still isn't actually clear as to why he had such a problem with her. Yeah it's just really isn't too clear to me either. Besides the fact that she was able to work with but people are difficult all the time and the exactly you know it felt like a red table talk situation like taking a note from his wife jada. he's now opening up and having these heart to hearts. But being the will smith that we see and we know when we love now i. I'm surprised he wouldn't have this revelation. Sooner right over the years. I totally give being young. And he midst like your egos in the way you you you kind of. Who's on top of the world. He was really feeling himself. And and there was you know a little chip monir shoulder right and they typically goes away after a little while. I mean he took a long time. I mean they forced. You're i mean not. i don't want to say. They forced her out but they gave her such as she could thank you. They divorced her out by just giving her such a bad deal. I just don't understand. I think i would. I would have a clear to us where to get understanding what happened if i kind of knew what really started all of this but i just feel like this woman's career has really stalled because what what happened. I don't think that that's right but hold on the shoulders of will united because if sounds like the whole team may have thought because i thought yeah just like you know have only beef with will but i think it's like a family like if from this and both of you don't are both of us. Don't stand up or say something you're mad at the whole family because somebody was supposed to have your back. I think what happened. The situation was yes we do know will smith as in light one. The one who's connected but leaders get that way until about five ten years ago in in state like he was. This was a sitcom that was obviously very successful. I think for me to wrap it up in a bow. There's a disconnect as to why the tension was caused in the first place and back to justice point words. It's functional little family. If you guys made in my life difficult every day at seven months pregnant. I don't know how i would go to the fact that she had to go through that like i don't know i'm having a hard time with this one today. Yeah i think you were. i mean. I'm glad that they made a men's now but like kind of what you said. they'll morgan. It feels like a little too little lay always better than never buy. It does feel like yeah. I'm kind of lost most of her career. She hasn't work that much. I really have that. I don't like that. Her family disowned her over. This i don't really understand that. That was a separate. I think that was because she was having issues in her marriage. Yeah yeah let me point something out. Not everybody from fresh. Prince went on to have careers. Let's be real about that. Not body was a jennifer aniston. According to cox at that moment if you look at the cast they kind of got stuck in that fresh prince role. So who's to say if she would've stayed on the show for three more years that she had this big ass career must now we can't just in case you feel like when you hear her speak. She's still she was willing to sit down obviously to kind of have that moment. I mean what's the point of holding back at this point. It's been so many years. But i felt like she's not holding onto something but just was like this shares for me. This is my life. Yeah you're talking to nineteen year old kid and you're not kissing his ass enough on. You're not gonna talk to that person then if you're talking to thirty year old man who still didn't think he's wrong about what happened ten years ago. There's no point in sitting down. We'll smith was open. He extended the invite probably let her know that he was open to get some closure and she was like you know what. I'm going to finish this story. I'm going to now show him what he could have done. And what he did to me because he was open so it was the right time to carry that on for the rest of their lives. Thirty years is enough to carry a sack of shit. Let it go and she did it. And i'm so happy for both yeah. It ended up being positive. I just. I'm having them as well are. Jennifer lopez just had a heart to heart with her twins. Maximum emmy that changed everything for her so in wsj magazine's november innovator issue on sale saturday jalen reveals that while and lockdown. The twelve year olds told her they were parts of their lives. They were fine with and other parts they were not jennifer called the whole conversation. A real eye opener. She said you think you're giving them an awesome life but at the same time the needs. They need us in a different way. We have to slow down and we have to connect more superstar like jaylo on the road constantly. I mean you've interviewed her. And i remember it was by the time you got through all the things she had coming up. You had enough time to basically two questions talking about utah. Your movie your sitcom youtube channel your every needs. I want to start off by saying kudos jennifer lopez because a lotta moms in the industry like to do this whole. I'm home every day. I don't have any help like this is so easy i put my kids. I i put my life. i blow. They do this whole facade but we forget that everyday women nine to five women women who small businesses sometimes miss out on things because they want to give their kids a better life so this is so relatable that she is being honest with every relationship every few years you gotta vocalise what your needs are and sometimes the hardest wants to hear from our kids one hundred because it makes wall bureau says this isn't working but those are the words that are going to be the most the most powerful for her to check in with their kids and say okay. This is not working. We need to change this. That happens in real families. And i think you know what i think this is first of all. It was so refreshing to hear this from jail because again we have always heard about how busy she is. And what's going on. And i think that this really as the end of the day you strip away the j. lo named strip away all the money you strip away all of the all of the activities and things that she has going on in different products are projects. She has two children. that just need her right. That's that's the thing about parenting. And i'm i'm not one yet so chris could probably speak to this better like obviously money helps with situations. Obviously it's really nice to be able to put your kid in different activities to keep them busy to get them what they want. They really just need you to be home as much as possible or checking in as much as possible so you build a relationship and build some substance within your children so they grow up to be decent human beings and no like how to handle different situation. That's why it's so hard. Yeah i think there's a it's a tricky balance right because yes you one hundred percent of your kids are the most important thing to you and your whole entire lives but at the same time for me example like if i cut back on work more or if i cut back say stop doing this show because i wanted to be home all the time. I don't know that. I would feel fulfilled in my life. I don't know that. I do too happy with myself. So i worry about j. lo because she has gotten herself for so many years. I'm talking since she started like at seventy. She's been literally working from morning till night. Like here busy schedule. What time can i fit it in. Okay good. I can make dinner on thursday. You know that's how busy she is and to like. Take that all away. It's a beautiful thing for while you slow down but then after a year of that you either embrace the reality or she may be like like to stop her. Yeah she doesn't have to stop for life. You just have to sort of reorganize something. Maybe you maybe. There's something that you do that. The kids are not a part of that you bring them along and that's where you have conversation. I'm like i don't think i think what you've done is really amazing. You need to have that balance. I'm going to be like you. I'm good in each work and fulfill myself and then i'm going to also be able to. Have you know baby time. I couldn't be the type of mother personally with my child all day long. Then the women. That are good for them. I would pull my leave out. I think that it's one of those things that you really do need to balance. But i think for her. It's about changing her approach to certain things so kids can maybe be a part of something. They weren't before one hundred percent. I wish you the best that i just think. Sometimes that's easier said than done. Yes i'm gonna break the fourth wall here until you guys a story about j. lo it's one of my wait wait. Can you save it. You went from one second okay. We're going to hear justin story whenever we come back and still ahead. Jim tan drama. The jersey shore cast is talking to us about quarantine cups and moving on without snooky plus the decker secret exposed. The real reason why they get engaged so young. Can you get all coming up. Welcome back before the break. We were talking about jennifer lopez and justin. You had some two. you're going to spell. It was just to say like. I'm very observant person and i like to everything going on around me. Even when i'm on zoom and a few weeks ago i interviewed immunize which is j.lo's daughter because she wrote a book called lard helped me and it's his book of prayers and it's so sweden is so beautiful and it was on zoom and she was in her bedroom and we resuming and halfway through the zoom in the i notice little things like she would like sit up all of a sudden and then she would look to the left and then she would pick up the book and say oh by the way. This is the book like she would like turn and she's looking at somebody and i can barely hear the voice of somebody being like up. Don't forget to set up. And i know that her mom was there with her through those moments so to see experience like the icon jennifer lopez as a normal mom. My mom would tell me. Sit up in my seat. If somebody wasn't around tat make sure you smile right. You like those are the moments we forget that this woman is just that she is a woman that imme- is going to cherish forever. I have my book and my mom was so proud. She was there for all my zoos. And things like that one hundred and by the way she could have been a hundred other places at that moment but she wanted to be there for her for her big day. You know what. I mean right here. Very sweet flung the family all right guys onto the duggar showy. One of the biggest questions has finally been answered about these daggers. Why do they get married so young. Well according to jill's husband derek dillard. It's all about sex. We learned this thing to the comments section on gels instagram. When someone asked why they rush into married life. Derek was blood in his response. Because we want to have sex. Jill didn't seem to mind as comet writing and your more popular than me bay said. Jonathan needs to own this moment harder than any other moment. And i'll tell you why he literally said these exact words. We discussed this on nightly pop another good. Show our gives you watch. And he's specifically said because they want to have sex. That's why they get married. So young. And i was like and two days later came to fruition. That is exactly why dinner on denham okay. I was out louisiana. I went to catholic. When i tell you i still have this car. Some thousand four. I will never forget those moments for the line de did it. I just took it up back to joe. I don't think. I need to write out. The that's so funny i mean it's so true though and i don't think the only people like this i mean and i think it can be a little blinding sometimes and i feel like those mothers our fathers or whoever you know religious pastors that have this in their religion. They need to maybe have on his talks with these young married couples. And be like really. Why do you wanna get married. Let's really think about it. Because i mean sex is super important to marriage very fundamental but there needs to be you know yet is like it's weird like i had friends who have married people who haven't slept and always do you at least want to appetizer. Tastes the entree before you get into it for me. I thought for a long time. I was going to be a virgin before marriage in sixty minutes and then it just didn't work out for me but i thought i was going to finish coming our new interview with dolly parton. How she's saving christmas and the world this year plus game show week continues our words to win who wants to be a millionaire play next. Welcome back to daly pop. It is time for the hollywood minute. I have sixty seconds to catch up on everything going on in hollywood ready to get to it. Okay wonder woman is here to save christmas guys. It was announced yesterday that the highly anticipated sequel wonder woman nineteen eighty-four will be available on. Hbo max on december twenty fifth. So the movie was originally set to arrive in august and they have pushed october. Now it's landing all the way in december but fans can still see it in movie theaters if it is safe but you at least now have the option of enjoying it at home fans are demanding to know where taylor lautner is. Yesterday we learned there will be a new shark. Boy and lava girl movie for netflix. And taylor is not going to be a shark boy now. The original of girl will be back fans on. Twitter are so upset about this there. Even calling the actor and impostor who knew shark boy girl had such passionate fans and finally. Google has found a way to honor. Alex beck when you type in his name into google and hit surjit asks. Did you mean who is alex. Travek that of course is a nod to the jeopardy rule that you have to answer in the form of a question. It's a small sweet. Easter egg to honor a game show legend. And that's my time but we are going to keep it with the game show is. We haven't celebrating them all week long today. It's all about who wants to be a millionaire. The show knows how to make people rich. And now it's making history november twenty ninth on. Abc one celeb- when a million dollars for their charity of choice and even though the stars on previous episodes didn't quite win so big. They definitely had fun. That shrimp cocktail had a big question. Mark at the end of the damn jimmy overall. Can you hear me clearly. Be sure can't just go to state clearly. Okay because you sound like you're talking out of of a bear any are you. Talking out of the epa bear. I'm being what what a person does in the privacy of your own office really like a business during the day so jimmy. I just want to let you know. I'm probably going to go with your answer but if you're wrong you're literally taking money away from children. We'll be your fault all right. We've got who wants to be a millionaire game of our own. It's time for a pop quiz man all right. This is how it's gonna work market research going to compete to see who can answer the most questions correctly now. We're going to be playing for pretend. Money is still going to take seriously. You'd better be on your already know. I already know right now. You guys cannot answer. Question can use one of three lifelines the fifty fifth the elimination. You can ask the audience. As in tom or gary scary. Tom's really sharp today or a phone of grin. But you might want to hang onto these because the questions are going to get harder each round. Oh my god okay with round one. This is worth one thousand dollars one. Okay then okay all right charissa on the set of which filmed did blake lively and ryan reynolds neat dramatic music ryan reynolds and blake lively met on. Gst ends survey says in correct. No green lantern. Knit only. I should've used the last two thousand dollars on more doers. I wish i got that one knew the answer to that. Okay your thousand dollar question. Cash singer was born amethyst. Kelly is jessie j. O n joel or is it. Tina turner. I'm gonna go with iggy azalea now. You tell you morgan stewart. You are correct thousand dollars. I this grab you can come back onto round two. This is we're up fifty thousand pretend dollars. How many years have chrissy teigen. Tigon and john legend been married fifty fifty years. Give fifty fifty. It's either a c five or seven years. Seven survey says are correct thousand dollars. You margen for fifty thousand dollars who holds the record for the most oscar wins of all time. Is it a katherine hepburn. Be marlon brando. See merrill the goat streep are d- daniel heyday lewis. Give me a fifty. Let her use fifty fifty. It's either a r r b. Her catherine damage around this. Well catherine i right. Is one million dollars so morgan. You still have a chance. Which person was not an original member of the nineteen seventy five team. Saturday night live cast. Is it a bill. Murray be lorraine newman who have never heard of fee. Jane curtain are d garrett. I have never heard of him either. Moore's either i have no clue d. Do you want to use a thought of parts of town. You know murray from tom holzer. Okay bill murray. Is that correct. I don't think granted we are. Tom mortgage what did elon. Musk and grinds named their child is in a gibberish be gibberish sue see jefferson more r d. A little less jibril. I think i'm gonna go with be it's dea won the game. You don't even need the pretend money anyway. You guys next surprising. Chris and make legal drama legal drama with the tabloids was she just caught in a major lie. Plus the icon. Who's getting majorly slammed. We'll show you who next. Let's talk about some dramatic makeovers. So demi levato death thing and she went blond and shaved her head. She the new look on instagram. You guys i love it wasn. I'm living for the color. And i'm living for the cut. I also love it. But i can't really judge it because i feel like anything on that face would look good. You know what i mean like. She could have a ceo moment. And i'd be like our. She could have a mullet and that it'd be like oh my god because her pieces just so pretty like this to me. Whenever i saw this. I said this Levada have had oliver life. This fancy her. It fits her the best and i think the photos are incredible style to perfection. It adds it really hit the nail on the head because it could've gone wrong and it didn't. It could have gone wrong. But guess what she's not gonna keep this for very long because she is exactly like every other girl. They feel comfortable when their hair down to their knees. It's their safety blanket. So we understand how three weeks once angel her for hairstyle town. Who knows how. I worked with so much. I think it's so pretty. Okay then there's riana. She's got a mullet now. She debuted her business in the front party in the back style while out to dinner in santa monica not sure if you remember but she rocked the mullet before in two thousand and thirteen How do we feel about retiree and the mullet look. She's no you like it. Here's the thing with riano. That's why we love her. She's so i how she can do. All of these different things like it's not the most glamorous look but it's cool it's g it's rock ary. I love it. It works for her. It does because the second she puts out here in a ball gown. Everyone's getting bed. Oh my god. That contrast. I can't believe she did that. Look only hurt. It's good that you put that hair on an album. Cover all my care. I like this better than the two thousand and thirteen mullet because she left a little bit longer in the front but yeah. I don't like that one so much but i do like the mullet now. It's curses. I don't like either. But also ask not that bad when she's got the rocketeer and everything in the genes. I mean if she puts it on the ball gown. Okay now who else might need. A makeover the rockefeller center. Christmas tree visit an uproar. You guys this year's tree was put into place this week and the today show got a cool time lapse of it. But here's the thing people. They're not impressed because once it opens up. It just looks. Like charlie. Brown's christmas tree. Someone else said it. Looks like corona as gerona and another it. Looks like twenty twenty while the tree club back and said you know what. Wow you all must look great after a two day drive Just wait till i get my lights on. Look at this photo by the way it looks like it. Just taped four seasons of jersey shore back to back to back figuring on the way to new york and hung over me so mean to mother nature but i will say this has had a long conversation with jordan about this about a tree tree really has to be very carefully picked very curated. It can't be too many ornaments Take this stuff seriously. So i got it. Listen i watched. I went on their instagram. Is the tree before whenever it was in its natural habitat and it looked fantastic. I don't know what happened. They claim it's going to be okay. And then it just these the branches to fall more. But i feel like we're missing some branches guys. I fell off on the ride. Happen that way for this to sit with diane sawyer and talk about how rough or year specimens is all set and. I can't wait for the enormous bow. They're going to have just cover up the huge hole of branches a okay. I can't wait to see your trees. Let's make sure all of us bringing picture. So we don't even act like monitoring point best true. You're your poison. Ivy with paul all right after the break secrets from the shore how the jersey is dealing with life without snooky and y j well says the girls are not friends then the shocking thing we learned about megan markle. That's not shopping show. Yeah by the way shocking. Jersey shore family vacation is back in. The crew is pumping up the drama They told us what they'll never accept about snooky and j. Wow is not holding back about why. Her friendship with angelina is completely over. It season for five words or less roller coaster crazy and sit down. I'll go unpredictable hilarious. I will say much. Needed vacation surprises last surprises. We family forgot one nikki less. We just pretended she was sleeping. The whole time will never accept nicole not coming back still leaving the door open for her return. Blink of what's going to happen quite big. Maybe in the next year we might see your comeback in some capacity. I don't know that said season four or five friends and their families out of resort the shining because nobody else is in that hotel either and well nothing. Like a little. Stephen king reference to remind us of angelina unsure. Gettable wedding are you. Are you guys gonna have to stay tuned to see what happens. There men the boys and they wanted to get this family together. I clearly j. wound. Not so much i look at her. Like a co worker that you might not have gotten along with and when day you do. The don't i wouldn't say we're brian by any stretch. I wanted to say the relationship is repaired. Either it's really all unfold on this upcoming season. So you wanna give too much away but you know it was a rough. It was a rough road. Well at least the guys remain strong. Ronnie's new lady fits right in. The family just keeps getting bigger mini. Met her last night for his birthday. And you know these guys have like a right of passage. His girlfriend does too but this has left vinnie in a bind star trek. Now i know. I'm a happy side. Chicken police rule it was. You can't have another bro to another guy but uh girls are on the table. And obviously i know nicky. She's like part of the fan now. Despite the headlines of relationship with her boyfriend being off and on she says quarantine line has been good to them. We're doing great You know is going to be part of the new season with exciting. And you get this Fast forward over year into our relationship which is nice and you know obviously putting the drama behind us wow. Jbl looks great so good. I love her glam there. All right you guys remember meghan. And harry insisting. They had absolutely nothing to do with that. Tell all book about them. Well that's not necessarily true and new legal documents obtained by e. news meghan markle's lawyers state. Neither she nor prince. Harry ever spoke or collaborated with finding freedoms authors. However the documents also reveal then making did talk to a friend who she knew was working with the authors because she did not want the drama with her father thomas to be misrepresented. Megan apparently let this person know that she did not abandon her father and tried many times to get in touch with him and ask him to please not engage with the media about their relationship and all of that info into the book. So just an. Are you shocked. She was telling the truth she told the truth. She did not give direct info to the authors. She was not working directly with. Don't care author so obviously is true. But i read the book. Had you read now. Book was so specific that there was no way in hell this book without bear account. I mean even down to the proposal would take over baked chicken roasted potatoes with charlotte paret on the side. Prince harry got on one knee over brown wooded floor and proposed to megan markle while she wore a j. crew sweat like it was too much invo that somebody could just make that up our guests right exactly. I mean i've just seen experts about it and that's kind of my take too is like there had to be some parters something and you know. And that's what we do right like especially going to a party and you know the question is going to be like well. How's doing it's you make sure you talk to that friend ahead of time to be like. Here's how i'm doing in case anyone asks. She is going great presentable falling apart. And you do not let that happen shades. My my hair's never looked better things classic normal but there there. She's a princess he's a prince was whatever Duchess technically. i mean it. Kind of they're supposed to keep all that stuff you know to themselves. I think anybody's writing a biography about you. You have the right to you know. See your piece to say you're part whether it's directly or through somebody else's he's gonna be in history for the rest of your life or your kids is lives like put you in. I would have did it. And i would have claimed that friend got the story right. You know next million reasons why. We love dolly parton. We're talking to the queen of country about christmas. Her movie secrets more. Don't go anywhere. Is there anything dolly parton cannot do. she is a singer. Songwriter actress producer. And now a corona virus vaccine sponsored dolly made one million dollar contribution to vaccine research earlier this year and fund one of the most promising vaccines that could end this pandemic love you dolly the icon is officially here to save our twenty twenty now only with the vaccine but with some christmas cheer in her new netflix movie. 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My miami makes these every single year for thanksgiving. This is your first pumpkin. You think it's the best thing ever i know. So she makes literally like fifteen to twenty of these every thanksgiving because not only do we go through several on thanksgiving. She sends one home with everyone thanksgiving tradition. And when i go home attempt to make it not as good as hers. Hers are always the best. But they're so good and they're cute in their festive and they have the whole. Pumpkin flavors are delicious. I'll make them. That's why rant about pumpkin roll smoking. By the way to make an even more. Festive and the heineken bottle and boxing holiday packaging which means you can even give a case as a gift no matter what your plans are this year remember to enjoy responsibly. Chairs yes okay. So that the trick with his pumpkin. So if you've never had wanted lineup. 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Berhana: Fresh Find

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Berhana: Fresh Find

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Some tracks don't stand up to repeat listens outside of this show. Pirhana was one of the artists from the second season I kept going back. That you! Feel Non Mosaic we used. The. From. Rana's voice really stands out in modern are. Pretty much everyone else. These days sings whispery. Atmospheric Falsetto Rihanna, has a Chris Tanner and it sounds refreshing. BRANA doesn't mind being different. He's first generation American born in Atlanta to Ethiopian parents so he's always felt a bit out of place anyway still he managed to find his people and eventually his. Maniac. Exactly ME. As you hear in this episode. The song you're listening to Janet is in Ode to the original dark skin, and from the fresh Prince of bel-air. I sat down Granada. Village studios in L. A. to talk about how a young artists can go from working bad restaurant gigs turning on music to eke out a living. And how he ended up in Tokyo to record most of his album on. This is broken ladder notes for the digital age I'm Justin Richmond. Here's my conversation with Baron, but I starts off with the performance of the song that got me hooked gray love. Down Swaying Closed. Heads play. Stumbled Dude Swerve Gay. DAB yeoman onto way. Golden now the fate of where he's. Three bus wildly A. Forty always Atma spades. Who Forty stories up and spend his. Bun feign for your energy. SNAP. It went him so. You use the beam a lovely. and. Days is oh. Oh. Hungover bus and Dad. Come over no stairs. May Be some, day? Laugh. Komo over stay. person. Maybe some day day. into a marble floors. crease keep in his judgment one. In a Mo-. But say. Asked me why always high? Roll. I asked why. You say that it's time ago. I forty stubby stab along, but in vain and for Yo- and. Snap out plan so. Joost and be my lovely. Days. Oh, Oh Oh Hungo I dare? Komo stead. Maybe some day day. Grant. Come over the. Go first and then. Maybe some day a day. That was amazing man. Thank you very beautiful piece, H you. Yes, so that was an acoustic version, a stripped down version of of gray love. From your first project, your EP and It's called Mahane self-titled exactly, and that's actually how I discovered you. I'm sure many people because he got featured on Donald Glover's show Lanna. north of a huge for an upcoming artists like you're. Up Income and you were just someone putting out music. Yeah must've been massive. It was crazy. It was crazy. For a few different reasons, that show is my favorite show on television. By far I was like super in tune with it. I loved the writing. I'm from Atlanta. Donald's one of my favorite artists, so just all of bat you know happening at once was very cool moment for me. Yeah, yeah, I know like a lot of a lot of younger artists like look for placements and find placements. Big? Our placements for like an artist like you I, think it, you know it depends on like the show it depends. If it's like a movie commercial. Different I don't go out of my way to like. Get placements been a lot of people that do like Oh. This movie is looking for these style songs. You know what I'm saying like. Fifty shades of grey came out. I was with this other team at the time, and they were like. Oh, like fifty shades of grey just gotTa. You just gotTa make something. A little sexy was like Oh not about to do that. You know that'd be bad. Look exactly, but to have your own song. It feels like you. And then someone else takes that. That's cool. That's. Not going out of my way for it feels better, absolutely so another reason that must have been like important and big fees. You are initially trying to be a musician or be a young played music for living. You're trying to be a screenwriter. Yeah, and that's a that's like so it's like Kinda your two worlds colliding in a way like this show with your music. How'd you going to screenwriting my sister? That's like the easy. My sister's twelve years older than me. and. She kind of like. Who I am, she would always. She wants to Nyu. But she would always like come home for extended amounts of time just to like stay with me and still be present in my life and would put me on two different movies. She really liked and television shows would break down. A storage be stories C stores like she. She knew what like she wanted me to be in a way like we kind of joke about that all the time. But I like I was like. Oh, I wanna go to nyu. Dramatic Writing Program in that was I was like Oh. That's what I WANNA. Do I love TV? I love film. So I was like. Oh, I just WanNa like right for the rest of my life I just WanNa right and I did music but it was more so like a passion project. It was for me. Show a couple of friends here and there. But I never thought it was GONNA be. The driving force by any means, and what were the first Song Zero? The first song I wrote was about like my dad who left I was like seven or eight. had left the house at the time, but my brother was still their nose to know music I was just like. Story is just like writing. had no I wasn't playing piano I wasn't. I was just like creating the melody, and just writing the thing, and I showed my brother, and he was the first person to really encouraged me when it came to. Music because he saw like almost like a journal. He's like you have to make sure that you keep doing this and leading out how you feel this way. He was like no idea you felt like this. and now that was the first time that's amazing. Start trying to write songs seven. What were you in Atlanta? IS YOU GREW UP IN ATLANTA? And that's such a diverse musical talent, the so much music on all kinds of music. You know people think now just think of a trap music. There's so much Kanzi going on Atlanta. So, what was this music going on in your home or In my home, yeah, there was there was a bit of music I'd say like. There was a lot of like oldies Sam Cook. Mom Love Stevie. Wonder there was also Ethiopian music being played a bunch, and then whatever my brother was listening to ABC boys outkast. And my sister's well used to always make me sees mix CDs. So and we are in the church, but I didn't have like you know one of those parents that was like. Listen all apprentice discography like this is amazing. You have to understand why I didn't have that and I think the first thing I gravitated towards was storytelling. It was just like Oh, they're telling of Barry like unique. Story I like how the words sound together. In. That's what drew me in I. How steeped in the open culture? Were you go up as a kid? IS INTERESTING GROWING UP IN ATLANTA? And like having being first generation African you go home, and it's you know the smells Bar Adobe in the language that you're hang your parents speaking debut. The decor you know everything is. Is Ethiopia and then you like walk outside? It's like this. Georgia so there's like this southern pride aspect, and it's also Atlanta's, so it's like very black, and it's like very proud as well so to be in like these three different worlds at once was it was a lot at times, but as an observer I against like really take it all in. Appreciate it as. You know the older I got. Three really strong culture exactly yeah, you just don't even think about that part because I think of Atlanta sometimes like on island you know seems like new. ORLEANS, but yeah, there's eight that southern sorta element to it too especially if you're not specifically in Atlantic side of it like. Did you ever feel I? Know a lot of first generation? Get sometimes struggle with. Feeling like you know. Maybe you don't accept your your heritage. Because you want to sort of just want be fit in at school. You know so you. Did you ever find yourself wanting to be more more? Fit into more one culture than the other or Yeah totally, there were definitely different tasks. 'cause I went to a school. Mom Put me in this private school those predominantly white. that she worked at so that I could go to school, but I remember once there like a show and tell. My mom brought some different adobe and food, and like kids were like spitting it up like what is this? What is some of my favorite foods might like some of my favorites, and then seeing that made me feel like you know shamed. Because I was really young at the time and I was like Oh, I guess this isn't good so I don't. Don't. I don't want kids to come over in smell my house and eat the food we have. I'd rather go to your house right? Yeah, so there was a lot of that when I was really young, and then the older I got the more that just like went away, and I found a community of a lot of different like first generation Africans through Church and sports. We became super close in those were the people really identified with even though they weren't idiopathic. or they didn't go to the same schools, or it was just a we share that. That thing of being in different worlds once. have been different in this plagues. That's breaking yeah? Yeah. Those are such a rejection. Spit out if it wasn't even crazy. Like food is like it's Kinda like similar like rice or couscous. No one should spit out. Don't Kiss Really Tame? His name was Casey. It's not d'oro wires, so you remember the name so Casey. Casey punked man I saw. You went teeth recently regular. Often you go back there. That's my first time actually months ago. Yeah, yeah, I had an opportunity to do show over there. My mom hasn't hadn't been back for forty seven years. Wow, I'm saw. It was like this is the time we should both go, and I got to bring her with me. NC The country through her eyes and it was. The surreal experience and how did you connect with Milan stock? You out there s that's insane yet. That was amazing. Really view musician like credible discography incredible. Absolutely he's been one of my favorite. Since I was young, that was one of the ones my mom put me onto an early age, and Albie a girl from our team. Who's right over here? She She, she made the happen she yes, she I knew she knew I really like Malaysia and she had a connection. She got us some time, so we could sit down and really chop about. Thankfully crazy. How was that time? And what did he? He was crazy. Man came to him Kinda poaching him with an idea. I, wanted to do and it kind, and he was like you know Kinda down, but then it totally collaborate heat. It totally flipped. He was like immediately went into. He just taught me so much. It was like we sat down for nearly three hours and he just. Talked to me about the history of music. How eat dopey like plays into that? What instruments started in Ethiopia? The no one knows about, and he's really like championing this. kind of like no one really knows like bat much about it, dopey music and history including Ideo, people yeah, and he really wants to educate others and he. He did that. He taught me so much is crazy. That's that's sitting down with like the Ethiopian. Quincy Jones Zakria I just shut up. Didn't I barely talked? Hours. Would instruments are from? Ethiopia realized? The missing goes like a really big one. It's kind of like a cello. That's one of the things. He said he was like Oh what came first. I'm I sink or the cello? And I was like I. Guess I guess the Maseko 'cause. Phrase a question, and then he kept doing that with different instruments, horned instruments whatever it was, and then he would go into the history of how how that instrument was built in which tribe made that instrument we have. There are a lot of unique instruments cdw. That's amazing. Yeah, you can hear when listening to the music. It sounds like it's orchestras. Full of like instruments you feel like what is that the plane in a way? I've never heard this thing. Play completely different instruments. But it's such a beautiful like like sound. Just yeah, you know when you when you're not used to hearing. Those sounds sounds especially dislike like mystical is something. You know it's incredible. We'll be back with my interview with Berhanu after a quick break. Between tour cancellations lost creative gigs shrinking ad revenue the cove. Nineteen crisis is making it clear that the system supporting creative people doesn't work. It puts algorithms over ideas quantity over quality. 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Additional restrictions apply please visit hellofresh dot com for more details. That's hellofresh dot com slash broke eighty, eight zero and use code broken record eighty to get a total of eighty dollars off including free shipping on your first box. We're back with BRIANNA. How did you how to siblings the youngest? I'm the youngest say and they're both putting your onto two movies and TV shows and Music Soderi, and so in you decide you want to go study screenwriting. and Are you making music in college or or I? I was when I got there. It was like. I'd put music behind me I remember I did one show. In Atlanta right before I left registered like covers and a couple of my songs, and then after that it was kind of like my all right, we'll come back to this later. How'd you? How'd you how the performance look like? What was it just you and it was me in a in a band of people I recruited. who were who are great. but we rehearsed like maybe for a week, and they played this show with me for free I had like no money. and then when I came to New York I was like I'm going to put that behind me and I'm going to go all into this writing in behind you did it go well. It'd just feel when it went fine, but it was like Oh. This isn't what I'm. I'm going to New York to be successful in this field got. It sounds like I'm GonNa to just revisit this later? And so yeah, I was just for the most part. Only doing writing interning at shows undoing a lot of different stuff like you see be upright citizens brigade. And then into my senior year, I started like getting Kinda restless. Because I. Really wanted to do music, but I just didn't know how I I hadn't been like there were a lot of like jazz school kids I'd been hanging out with but. They wasn't people I was like necessarily China make music with. And this one kid. His name was Jimmy he heard I like. Sang 'cause I used to go to piano room downstairs at the dorm and play songs now and then and people would come listen and he was like. Oh, we should just do something together just for the fuck out goes. And I was like yeah, for sure. Let's do it and we did. One Song called Kingdom together for his project. And then it did pretty well like for the first time I'd ever like put out a song it by got ride up, so it was like doing really well for him I was like Oh. You know this is cool I'm going to try and make my own stuff or at least one song I'm GonNa make one song and my name see how goes. In then I I wrote like basically the outline of Janet. The song I ended up putting on my EP. And connected with this kid is named Sapphire who also went to my school for Jazz, but he had dropped out because he was like. I know exactly what I WANNA. Do I don't need to like be in school for it and I love that I was like Oh. This is cool. I WanNa work with you on like see if we can create something and we ended up making the full episodes together, wow! How did you right so I love Janet too, because it's again. It's combining both your worlds right. It's music and it's combining. Love is clearly someone with the love for had to write that in I. Think probably everyone our age grow loving like obsessed with the fresh prince, such a beautiful. Send up to to Viviana. How did you come up with ideas for them? How did it kind of develop? I saw a tweet. from one of my really close friends, who one of those first generation kids Alzheimer, about super tight within Atlanta. He tweeted A. If, you fuck with the light skin on BIB. I can't trust you. And I thought it was so I just started asking you know I re tweeted or whatever but then like kind of this. I was like man what did happen. You know kind of like planted the seed, and then I started just researching like going like this wormhole of what is. Like what happened? Why was she kicked off the show? Does anyone really know like did and then I in that? Lenin's being like. Oh, the situation's kind of like fucked up she. Hasn't worked in since that show release you have really she liked has had small stuff, but like salute initial to. Yes, she was. She was kind of like. Yeah excommunicated from this community. She worked so hard to be a part of. she, you know. She was a really talented dancer. Singer actress went to juilliard was in the first production of cats on Broadway. Finally snags this. Series regular on NBC. Does so well, people lover, but because of a couple of tips she gets in. NBC's like you know now. We're GONNA. You're crazy win. Tell everybody you're crazy in your office sting. And it's just like that all went away and made me so sad and I was like. Wow I have to. I WanNa ride something about this so I wrote the chorus. I at my house in Atlanta over like my piano. And I was like Oh. This is. I'm I'M GONNA. Keep going with this and you call the Janet, because that's Janet. Hubert. Actress. Who Played The national anthem? By GM, vive and then the verses are those are those about her, too. Because like the verses are maybe yeah, that's all about her all about. It's funny a lot of people when I put it out. It's like girls would come up to me NBA all like my name's Janet like I I wanNA. Be I. WanNa be your Janet and I was like Yo. This song completely went over. This this is not about a love interest. This is anything of that sort. It's about you know it's an Ode to Janet Hubert and it's about like. Being, forgotten in what that's like in how I'm afraid of that. You know afraid of being forgotten. Yeah, of course. Man. That's good songwriting because it's like it's about something so specific. And it, and because the dressing around it is sounds so great. It's saying you can hear almost whatever you want to hear in it. You know like you could hear that song until we think it was about. You know being left behind by lover, or you know is just depends on students love it, US Open, for interpretation. That's always been my favorite stuff, and it took me a long time to be like okay. This is what it means to me. Because I like the people were taking away their own things. That's one of my favorite things about music in something that I did. With the music I was listening to when I was younger in college. Even now it's like I I make my own interpretations, and that's what makes it special all the time often sometimes, I'd like sometimes. I like to cook, and sometimes they don't send them disappointed. Not Luke's or bad like wow. I thought this whole time. This was about this identified it with this and when I was feeling this way I, put this on. It feels so you know so. It's like room now, yeah! And I don't WanNa. Ruin it, you know. That's the same reason. Why don't look up lyrics a lot of the time because I. Don't want it to be ruined so when you put out the EP work to Sapphire. What was your intention for that? Just put it out or Mine attention was well. A little bit before I'd put out the EP. I like what was working on it but I wasn't fully and I was still doing so many other things. And I remember I was sending in a lot of like different packets, applying the shows. Back Package. and. There was one show I thought. I was GONNA get. And I was like Oh. If I, get this. I'm going to go all in with this and I'll like. Marinate on the EP you know. It'll come out when it comes out, we'll show was. It was A. Kobe when he like took over. And then I ended up, not getting it. And I was like I'm going to finish. This I'm going to finish this EP right. Now I was like there's nothing else I won't do I'd stopped sending in packets at that point. And I was like Oh. Here I go I'm just GONNA go for I'M GONNA put this out I'm going to move to la before it comes out and then I'm GonNa, see where it goes and it. It went fine. It was a slow bungalow. You put it out what you want to label at the time right where he wasn't on a label now I. I had just gotten managers like after I'd I'd already finished the project. And they were like oh you. Put this on spotify and all these different. You Know Apple Music. Whatever whatever? And then, and then you out here in La, and then I got a job in a restaurant. And then it slowly. Just built what what was the? What was the tipping point moment felt like. When did it start? At some point that caught fire. When did? It's funny I was working at this restaurant in La that I. Really hated. But I I worked in a restaurant new. York where I'd like you know worked up from. A server to shaft assistant manager I, was making like five I was making good money for where I was at, but then went to La and they didn't. It was the same style restaurant. They're like now. You're going to be a BUZZER and you have to train for a month in when you're training. You get no money you get like just you get paid shit, so I was still in that phase now remember tyler the. Creator came into the restaurant. and. House! Like you know someone. I look up to an artist. I look up to and I was just like Dan. This is not how trying to. Create you know what I'm saying? I was like avoiding stable at all costs. And then my boss is like you WanNa. See wipe down this table which like kind of close to his table and. I was like fine. Do whatever like head down, go wipe the table. And then this man yells at me, 'cause he's like you didn't get the sides, so he likes shows me how to like. Wipe the sides of the table. He's like look takes the rag, and like does it and I was like. Oh, I'm. GonNa quit this week. This is the worst like this is the worst feeling ever, and then it just so happened to be like that next week I. got paid from my music just enough to like. Make it through one month and I was like okay cool. I'm going to make sure I stretch this bitch out in. About a get another job right now, and if I have to next month cool, but ended up being the next month. I got a little bit more than I got the month before and I was like all right. We're GONNA. Do the same thing I'm GonNa. Make you know peanut butter and Jelly sandwiches. Stay my ass inside, right. and then it kept growing. That was the last time I had to work at a restaurant. That's amazing. Yeah, that's incredible and. At that point or not wanting just coming in from from the from the from yeah, from the EP from streaming. Yeah, thank God for streaming man thank. God I, love it. I was trying to put that. Out For free to so I'm glad I didn't do that. 'cause enabled me to. Get started doing this full time. 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That was College! College. We were reading KIRKEGAARD. In one of my philosophy classes. And his ideas on. Authenticity for something I really gravitated towards. Yeah. That's that's not. That's all lines. Actually not even in the song that we put out I never lost versus yeah. I was GONNA say speaking of not listening to lyrics like I, I've listened that song. A bunch I never heard that line today. We were like Oh. You know. Let's like stretch out the song a bit. In a! Ever performed that verse so was like Oh. You have a suit here. Thank you thanks first of all I mean I got I studied philosophy in college because I got into kindergarten I loved it, and then I didn't feel the study in the garden. College didn't have any of that in the curriculum. Bombed Yes that was great I just I. Just I just propped up on that I. Heard that sweeter and the song? So how'd you come with data structure? So your new album called Han, and this is your first actual album along. Be More of an EP. And is really cool, because there's these little skits and not ladies extended wraps skits, but this cool little skits between songs on the Kinda. Remind me like midnight. Marauders right like how this lady guiding you through album. In this case, it's a flight attendant. And how'd you come up with that I? Do the number out is one of my favorite Adams growing up and I thought. I always wanted to do my own version. Of that where it felt like a little more narrative based and I could put it in a space specifically. in so the concept of the album came before anything. When when I right, it's like. I go about it different ways. The process of it, but for this album it was like Oh, I know what the how I wanted to album. The sound sonically a no i. want the concept to be and I know I want them flow together seamlessly. And have all of these different sounds like certain songs? Don't sound like other songs on the album, but they still feel like they come from the same world. and that's Kinda. Thousand my starting point. Yeah use the band on this one right used a lot of used to ban a lot of great musicians. Danny McKinnon, who's in here playing with me today Pomo. He produced the entire record with me. And how'd you connect with him? He was someone I really wanted to get into a session with him and Danny. Both actually they were putting out a lot of different videos. Just I'm doing covers jamming. It wasn't even them putting out. Songs are putting out videos of just. Where they were what they were listening to and. It will I was like Oh, I'm listening to the same things like right now. I was like I. Really WanNa get in a session and see like what that's like. Then one session turned into like three sessions. And then I kind of finesse like. Throughout this idea like we did like few songs and made it. into its own project knowing I wanted. Them But Yeah Promo was so down he was. That's like something. That's really great about him. As a producer he's he loves challenges, and even though I was throwing a lot of different things his way. He was just really excited to do something he hadn't done before. From the initial idea of it just being like a small project becoming a full record. When did that PAN IN JAPAN? We went to Japan to record. I had a couple of festival dates out there and Danny came to play with punk came to play with us. We just had this like cold group that we are already working on album together, so we like Oh. Let's stay like a few more weeks. Rent out a studio and just go as hard as we can in Japan in Japan and then when we were, there was like that's when it was like. Oh, here's battling it. It's all right there now. We just need to finish these songs. In the in like drunk, for instance comes after golden on neutral. You guys will play at some point today. The opening line is drunk in Japan drunk. In Tokyo Tokyo, drunk Tokyo I do not know the language how I know your name arrived in Japan recording there to that change that change the vibe of the of of the recordings at all or the sessions, or whatever sure I think it's whenever you're in a new place. It kind of opens you up like you're not in the same routine. Everything's super new to you especially a place like Japan where it's. Everybody looks different from you. Every store is different from any store you go to America, it's. A whole new world so being in that environment and by creating. You're GONNA get something different than you get when you're at home. So definitely informed. Everything that we're doing for sure in the restaurant you're working at in. New York was a Japanese restaurant and you had to like learn some of the language there. Is there like a gym. An affinity for the culture there was all kind of accidental that works at a restaurant and had learned some Japanese and that you hadn't dates and oh. Yeah, it was Oh, super accidental. Ouza when I got the job it was it was around the time when I was like all right. I'm just doing the CPR going finish this. was like Whoa. I'm broke I. Need some money so I applied to so many different jobs couldn't get anything. Then I had a buddy in New York. Who was like? Oh, I, have this job. They're looking for people. but there's a catch. They want you to speak Japanese. They want you to do this fifteen minute. Chant before shift starts that you have to learn they want you to. It's like still very Japanese all. Your boss is going to be Japanese. They barely speak English with the chant. You have to do before you started. Today's actually if At the end Golden. There's like you Kinda here like this guy. End of this chant, and that was me recording factual. Chant that we did, can you? What is? Do you remember any still I remember when we know fifteen minutes. Would you got like twenty seconds in you? Know you own me, say guy. Okay, Samoa, which? Ran They could then shiny note. Day was I. was I keep Dacuda I saw. Time Oh. E CUCKOO SAGA team on my neon Christine. He coulda standards scanner. Be Got. MOTOWN. I gotta cost. Your Jackson Maga long thing. It's a very long thing to my untrained ear. That sounds like the accents perfect. Killing rose and I was working forty hour weeks, and if you do like the lunch shift and the dinner shift as thirty minutes. On the clock here we're on the clock thinking. It was it was a very? You. Know I know like the gist I don't know exactly I. Don't know everything. My Japanese used to be way better when I was there, but yeah, that kind of kicked off the affinity i. It, was never you know there are a lot of musicians in particular and artists who will say they like like I said it? Would this album abyss big starting point from you was Japanese. Faulk and I feel like there are a lot of artists who would. Be like. Oh, I just heard this like Javanese funk from the eighties, so weird and unique I'm GonNa use this as a starring kind of fetish izing. This thing where for me, it was like. All of my bosses were Davenas's only spoke. Japanese would tell me that Joe. You should read this book by Reinoso Octagon, or you should watch this movie by Joe. Ozo- or you should listen to this album Takahashi, they would put me onto. Things go where it was like it was like. Oh! I, because of that then I was like oh! This author's really tight. Who did he inspire? This filmmakers really tight. who were his contemporaries? In kind of yeah I kind of kept going down that, too. That's how I got inspired. You know it's because of. The environment I was in wow. This is like putting you in like a whole four, th other cultures. Also very strong still. So you're listening all that stuff, even before you went out there to court, so that have been kind of fun to be able to record out there. That will give you the idea to say. Hey, let's try to. The troops, and do you have absolutely hooman definitely? WanNa do drunk. Yeah, let's do this is this is about your first trip to Japan right I ask I had sat boast both combined and on great. Meself Madman. Can't be so. Drug Kentucky I don loud language know how I know your name slave past the gods, and then pass this guy. This guy then saw his say seven seven nodded, say tweet concerned. She tell me she drunk in Tokyo. No place to go no, has he a swear ed seeing you dance? was, said impairs friends. Come, so it's. In then it's a non man. And so. My head is sold out. Is Police don't play no games stead my first show I saw you from well. Don't know how annot you name. Excuse me, if rude, say smart there. She told me she high in Sochi Oh. Life is slow, Mo! Don't know how she. Swear vaccine. Was said impairs friends. and. Then it's. Not A swear. I swear. I seen you. was. Impair! My lovely dark from man come towards the. Run. As go don't. I thought I'd let you know. Guys. Over? Yeah. Thanks for taking us do is I two projects and sharing some of that incredible Japanese, champions us. We should check out his album. Han along with our other. Songs on a playlist we created broken PODCAST DOT com. You can also find plus we had them put together some of his favorite Japanese city. Be, sure to subscribe Youtube Channel at YouTube dot com slash broken record podcast for always putting up our old interviews there under new ones sometimes with bonus content broken record is produced a health Jason Gambro me. Labelle, Lee road and Martine Gonzales for pushing industries. A theme music can't beats unjust enrichment. Thanks for listening.

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THE FRESH PRINCE OF BEL - AIR REUNION - Double Toasted Audio Review

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THE FRESH PRINCE OF BEL - AIR REUNION - Double Toasted Audio Review

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Put in the fedex out of here. Yeah yeah the fresh prince of bel air man. You know generations. Continue to grow up on this show today. My kids are watching it now. Like it's something brand new. Yeah man and i know a lot of people looking man shit. They talk and right here. That's what was this thirty years ago. Man still relevant today so say man so being black still sucks unless you go to belair which we puts. Yeah man you know not. All of us can go stay with rich really rich uncle and aunt and belair but big willie style didn't entertain kids as it still does today and that is why everybody is making a big deal about this reunion show. Not even they're not. It's not a reboot is not a rebate. A remake is a reunion and they knew they'd done reunion shows. A lot of the classic shows that throughout the years. You're but there's something special about this that people are saying and then you know anytime you got at least a couple of things. When you got death and beef it does spice it up over the normal reunion. Show time it is like well. You know it's chance has an astrologer and think back to back in the day when you enjoyed this. But everybody's older now and they're not doing this anymore and we're really was the purpose here man. No people are ready to cry about somebody that is not with us anymore and red aleph when og av comes in and beats williams is long overdue. Islam woman man. Many a half. I'll let you well. Sec seeping going in on the man and everybody said man look at. There's one thing i got to know about this reunion. Can they possibly worked out right. Can this is this. Going to end is going to end in tears. Hugs any about the height for this. So i'd even know that she was actually going to be there. Yeah that was the biggest thing man you know. Everybody wants to see the reunion because it's been thirty years old thirty years and thirty people that work together for almost a decade. Yes six years six years. Yeah eight and they pretty much consider themselves family a family at that time. They said we saw each other more than we saw actual family. We lived on more than we lived in. I real houses right so this is definitely something that people are expecting to give them. Not only some drama. Not only some some fun memories but to give them the fields bring into this emotional level that everybody felt every now and then on the show. Let's go ahead and take a look at the trailer for the fresh prince of bel-air union and we will be back with our review. You've probably seen the picture. Me with the whole fresh prince cast hold on the lights off a little bit. Probably seen the picture a posted about a month ago. Me and the whole fresh prince cast let you not ready for. This trailer. Couldn't be ready for this trailer. Happy thanksgiving yes. You're welcome will thank you. Will you welcome. Thank you will. Yes you welcome with upside down. And i'd like to take advantage. Then welcoming here always able to recognize. Chemistry will announce bonzo from the very beginning. We're just playmates brother. Carlton he knows. We can't afford any bigger close so he just doesn't grow cutie. Look fuck you. Don't even the script not living begun. Nobody ever asked like this had no aspirations to turn down the show literally. Ten china will is very good at talking. Wants to visit for this. New sitcoms with a rapper past tape at the time. You up bitch. That's me joe joe. Hi s tape. Night was special. It was just kind of like the friday cardi with each grab cussin' instruments users full on experience audience. Who's done hottest ticket in town as they called it so carlton was called for real the ticket. He was put doing an affect. Sure show james avery. This six foot. Four shakespearean beats. I wanted him to think. I was good. How come you don't want me fall into his arms ended a scene and he's holding me and shot pans up and he whispered in my ear out that's acting and realize how many people we were reaching. They will always be a piece of all of us at liberty. Our show meant black. Excellent to people. The excellence is the way that we loved. each other. couldn't celebrate thirty years of fresh press without boy liberal. What's gonna happen look. I don't need to tell y'all yom oh this is this is This this this is pure the style rate. Here look at that. They they they re. They built the set. Because y'all know they took that set apart like the that's what happens with shows when done they dismantle the set they should do. They rebuilt the sick. 'cause y'all know that last episode where they they left the house night took everything off the set. Y'all think that big willie your think will. Smith was the last star to leave everybody more than into him. Everybody remembers that. Like switch switch steady hit on his way out everybody. That light switches legendary. That's that's what that's what he hit on his own his last way out but they rebuilt that set. So this is this is all about nostalgia right here man pure nostalgia one hundred percent no concentrate and so if you wash the show. This is great for you to go in here and get all these memories. At least you hope going into for people who didn't wash a show that's we got ask yourself. Is there anything there did you watch the show. I watched the finally. I think i watched the first season and then from there was like a show. I would catch it. Every so often. Or catch a rerun. But it's kind of like in that time period like anna maniacs. I know people who they're all about the show super fans they live and die by. They can every episode. And i was more such a very casual viewer. I was too. I was a casual viewer of i. It was like this. i've seen a lot of episodes. Some of them are caught because they will Some of my car. Because i was at the barbershop. Yeah couldn't move. you know. Yeah this was something that did enjoy. But i can't claim to know having encyclopedic knowledge of the fresh prince of bel-air like some people out there do so the question is is there anything out. there are in there. Anybody who did not wash your show that much. I was as mars very casual about it. I think for half of it. I do think that there is because this is a real emotional experience man. Watching this is at the beginning like watching a real family reunion and technically it is man like i said all all of them considered each other family. They saw the six years and see. That's relatable right there man because we've all had that moment where we've gone to a family reunion of. There was a funeral and we see people for while generals funerals a lot for a lot of those occasions. Weddings class reunions to some kind of special thing happened where you didn't mean you gonna call somebody and you didn't call them for a long time but when you saw him you pick right up where you left off. Everything was emotional. And that's relatable right there man and that you could tell that that is definitely what the cast is feeling man. I don't think that they're doing this for the camera. I think that this is really authentic. Been thinking back to all the time that they had on this show and all the time this past and they really didn't see each other all that if this isn't sincere this is a cast of the greatest actors of all time. They sure man and we know they all ain't no it totally had that feeling of whenever you know gathering you're talking about people who are family coming back together to go over and that feel they haven't maybe haven't seen each other while but they have such an affection for each other and watching it. It's infectious. I mean honestly like like i said i'm such a casual viewer of the show floor but watching it. I was in grossed. And i just had feelings the whole time i mean i did to. My wife was asking me. She asked me Because i was laughing and she said well you having a good time here. what are you doing. She's like you really love the fresh prince. That's like i. i don't watch so all that much. I watched it. But i didn't watch it like crazy kids coming up but i said and i had to like i was outside on the on the on the porch watching this it was nice and everything and i wasn't enjoying myself and then there were moments where the tears dot com in a home. I got to take my house when they start way whole. Yeah on the we. May we might be talking about the same day because i clogged. Ask if you got with me man. Holy shit and i thought i was like okay. I'm just enjoying this. This is fun. Yeah it was just saying like. Hey what's what's happening. He's stop talking. Limbic method man wash. So i say give it a chance to watch this a lot people you can probably hear about it for next couple of weeks and if you have. Hbo max is. It's worth to look at for at least that part of it because even if you didn't wash show where i can compare this to make an analogy to is okay. Imagine you have a real close friend are even better a significant other. And you've gone around. Their family are their relatives. And you can you have to be there with them and i. You don't think that you're going to know anything but then you know we've not talking about but you see these people in photos videos online you heard stories from your significant other and get around them. Start seeing them talk and you just you just infectious get into it. Yeah and they're all trading stories and everyone of these stories like this is a fun story. Oh this is interesting. They should wear man no they wear the stories that they tell here are great and a promise. You you can sit up here and say that you are a fresh prince of bel-air superfan and they will tell you some things that you never noticed. I didn't notice this but it was funny. Is that what. I found out when they were talking about how. We're smith tells a story about how you got there. And he's not an actor and he win into the script and learned everybody's lives. You could see a mouth and everybody's dialogue cute. And i guarantee you you were too busy looking at somebody else and you didn't notice it but once you what you see as they say you. Can't unsee sure. I do know people do not look young don cheadle. I know that you draw to do not look at young cheadle. Look at look them rewind a little bit look at will smith mouth this whole time. Sure do. I've been held back in the tenth grade three times in around three times. Yes the all motto is when i find a great i like i stick with it. Been i know his voice and making ho said never seen mr. Ed is obvious that surprising because even when it was on a i mean you know you look at it now. Even back when he was on the first season of was like yet. As will smith actor no no. He ain't no active trying to act everybody. You sure do. I'll been held back in the tenth grade three times in a row see all motto is what i find at this point. I want to sit on his lap while he has his hand behind his so lucky yell at him like you did chris stop norma. Yeah people in that is a young don cheadle see. There's other things in here that you don't that you might not know for those who didn't watch your show. Some people are still surprised today. The find out that don cheadle was on there at one time. Oh yeah was young. He's a pup and tv shows a lot. because i new episode of night court where he came in and held hostage or hostage situation. It was all him first thing i ever noticed him. Yeah man you know so you might notice some things that man you know. You're looking at don t like oh my god thing don t let me look to bed looked about some of the other actors like i did not know that geoffrey. Geoffrey joseph marcell didn't know that he was actually british. Oh you didn't know. I didn't used you. Thought he was acting. I know he was. He was another shakespeare experienced. Desperate on the set. Yeah matter you know him as the butler geoffrey you know there was one moment here. He had me laughing. No that's one of the things that will say. They do have some cheesy editing and miss. They had his brother. Yeah i think he had all the lines and he has won the on. The best lies that that stood out to me the editing on this clip. Right here with jeffrey. And he's like oh out they did. That's the best or that brother. Install out yeah you where that come from it. They've inserted right there and he was telling me he was telling a story that they didn't use that in there to get there. We had to drive so far out is like brother. You ain't gotta act for this air by fair by metro. He's all followed by the room. You said i mean it was a great story about quincy jones. And will smith auditioned in front of everybody. We'll we'll smith stalwart napa. And good man. Did you notice like out of everybody. They do the least jeffrey. Yes so maybe somebody was like man. He's barely in this thing. We just gotta insert him jerry audio from other store stores claw out. They did my right everybody. Yeah come on. Somebody said new suppler. Yeah our jeffrey jeff. We listen to your story. We'll give you some attention and be funny like every time he told a story just rambled. We can't use any of this. That's why looking around the room because everybody everybody sudan thousand yard stare. You still love it. Everybody's cool because he is he was made was so refined. Doing 'cause that's what i learned was british good times to be had by all right. He's like he's like he's like black alfred by like not nassau the fresh prince that you should be working with batman funding. Will you know what got me though on. This is that this shows very taken for granted you take for granted house socially conscious. This show was back in the day. You know for those who remember the laughs. And that's why we say look for all of you who are all of a sudden surprised and shocked and want to argue of all police. They've been doing that job. Y'all just been complaining. Wild every fucking tv show except maybe cosby ever tv. So with is with as black people always episode about about cops fucking with them listening to me carlton when he comes up. Keep your hands on the wheel evening. Mr girls in banks hands on actually trying to attack me saw that. We're going to palm springs and yourself where you had a defining. Did you know this man. This is back in back in the eighties. So this is when you head rappers. Police brutality you had everybody thought rappers would just angry. Just one eighty light. Cops they want to break the law. Sure we'll rappers a criminal so of course. They have problems with police. Yeah but you know things like the the fresh prince in no. they're great for reminder of like many black properties out there you know they addressed issues at other people were freaking out about now are freaking out about now just learning about you know if you go through history man you know dogs go through several sitcoms from several generations and see that they talk about this stuff and it's just one of but a lot of people remember the laughs you know they were laughing at these things to nothing bad right right but they addressed it with humor and we all kind of took it for granted i mean we still do i think in a way yes the kind of thing that should be antiquated where you know we're not looking at pattni more but it's it's still prevalent. Yeah yeah man seventies eighties nineties or you know all those shows man. We're talking about stuff. I was surprised at how much bonzo rivera man he was. He was dropping some truth. Oh yeah he was talking about how great to hear how they talk about how the show was so socially conscious and how even was kind of a something to happen with the show. They say man. You know it's weird how we talked about these things and we were the face of the show but we will always not behind the camera We would toll where to be told what to say told what to do. We want to right on words. Yeah well but they also talked about how and something. I always thought about his. Excuse me when you're an actor. Yeah you're a puppet you're told be here. Here's your mark. Say this do that. And how they had a chance just between the week to actually contribute to to the content to say to the writers like hey black no black people say this this you know that that little girl not talk to said yeah. That's help father would knock cut. Oh my god really okay. Well we don't wanna get hurt. Do we change. This year was a man it was a it was the reason why we take it for granted because the writing was good enough and contributions by the cast was good enough that it was a well-balanced bound show. Yeah you have shows that they either when they have an all black cast are black leads day. They have to sway to buffoonery sometimes. Are they have to hide the blackness on it. They don't want to bring that up too much enormous difference between something martin and cosby which i like both those shows but you know. They're very very different. Sure well especially with with martin after a couple of seasons it it just start getting so silly even watching black And this was goofy but it was all about keeping one of the things they highlight with. Their discussions is that it was all about dignity. No matter how goofy guy how silly got. We always have to have a moment to show you that. We were all about dignity and it was of moments where between a uncle phil in In in will man Where they had this is a classic scene right here or not going to hard with black issues on that. try to like force it in. But it's a great some great dialogue from a. What's his name. james. Avery james avery. I remind you of where you came from what used to be. I don't know somewhere between princeton office. You got soft. You forgot who you are and way came from. You think. you're so wise. Look at me. When i'm talking to you. Let me tell you something son. I grew up on the streets just like you. I encounter bigotry. you could not imagine. Now you have a nice poster malcolm x. on your wall. I heard the brother speak. I read every word he wrote. Believe me. I know where i come from and about to show you. Think the us. He's active right now. Triggered him right there man. You know they talk about that because you know. I'm showing these clips to give examples. Because they showed these on the show but they didn't give me any real clips from the azure reunion. Didn't cause you should experience with. Yeah you really should. I mean even looking at that trailer. I was like she wants so much. Yeah speaking of speaking of uncle phil james avery man now here martin is what we don't talk people if you choose to watch this hour care if you've seen the show are you having brace yourself out. I did not expect. Because i started her to battlefield death and i watched a show cash like you did but man when they got together and start talking about this law when when they start talking about him not about his death just just like attributive like what he brought to them how much he he elevated them as people. Yeah man. My i'm waterworks. Started it caught me off guard and it did not stop because they would talk about what he did for them and then went into like talking about him being gone and everything i was like god damn i know i feel like i'm never going to stop crying over this. And and there's those minneapolis moment and say what you will about will smith. I don't care if you like them or not. I liked i. Like will smith taught shits but will smith. There's a moment where he's talking and again show boating he. He starts breaking down. Yeah and i just. I broke down with them. That's what i was outside. I had to take my ass in the house in rump rump. Pass my she. Because i meant really dead man. This thing is so before a reunion show. Yeah so much emotion here there really is man. Thanks shook me people. I'm telling y'all prepare yourself. You're not going to be dry. you'll be also with willie man you know because what they tell these stories. It's just like contribute that you would do for your friend. I mean our relatives like the sad but they don't wanna be sorrowful about his death right telling these stories celebrating his life and there's the moment that got me is when will smith said man you know what What i want to do was. I just wanted to make him proud. You know when. I got to that said the biggest thing i wanted to do was just make him proud of me for acting. I don't want to disappoint me doing it. I didn't want to point him. You know he was he in. Everybody talks about how you know like the woman that plays new on vivian. She's like i love that man. Oh yeah daphne maxwell yeah yeah man it was the it's a har- went har when get through without when i cry if you don't want to look i'm talking to do you want your girl to see you. Don't watch this in front of the. If right during this then you'll need to leave. It doesn't do that. i can show you. I should give you pass on so unit toxic mask no option. I ain't no if i did have toxic masculinity i'd cry dish it all got masculinity is on the floor back at the house i it's not sad is just home. Man is dead man. You crying right along with the man another thing you need to brace yourself for as i said Janet hubert as og envy. She's originally. I'm vivian you know. A lot of people her a lot of things about what was happening with her on the show which she was gone because she was just gone. Like ain't giving a story. All of a sudden it was like the way he the witch it was it was like it was like a reverse. It was it was the reverse terrence. Howard don cheadle like. Nobody asked where she got her skin peeled from. Turn light scale all of a sudden. Nobody said anything and there were a lot of rumors where they said that she was causing problems on the set she was asking for too much money. She was pre donna. All kinds of things being said about her and then were moments were she felt like will smith was not good to her and and if you remember it was a year to go she put it out there. Plainly Started out as an oscar. Talk but she just made us man. Oh yeah and at that point it got it got personal the the the beef and that she had with the will smith and i seem to recall any anytime somebody says is to recalls in lugano want to be six seven years ago twenty five whatever it was what what the only remember but i seem to remember option time coming to you and saying you know what will you the star the show. Why don't we get together and with you. Maybe we could get a little ways. Maybe the network since you know the show is such a hit and you being the star of the show. Your influence will help us. Greatly did on friends like crab s. She meant because she tried to start out. Dignifying med negro came out in her real quick pleaded. People are hungry. People started people trying to pay bills and you talk about some modern actors. She still tried to every five. Got you let me say it is man when she comes back on first of all i think she's in a mid sixty. She's looked fine as yeah. She looks good. I'm not. I'm trying to say this some sexual anything. I'm saying that admiration. She looks fine as hell man. She just taking care of herself very well. You know when when they found out that she would be at the reunion. Everyone couldn't wait to see what would happen with that. And since is looking forward to this part. I'm not gonna tell you a whole lot. You won't because you need to really see for yourself. But i will say this. You know when she comes in. Everybody gets a better understanding of her. Everybody sees that there's more to the story than what they got. She just kind of late silent for awhile all says that you know you you. You definitely feel for her when it's said and done. Oh yeah yeah and you know. It's just reading between the lines. You can see how both people were probably at fault. Yeah that's what it was You know i mean The because listen. You hear one thing from will smith and you hear from one thing from janet hubert in probably in the middle. Both them wrong. Yes yes just went on the more i was like. Yeah i can see where both of them were wrong. And i feel like one of the two should have taken a little bit. More responsibility stood butch too. But i i was. I was emotional through that whole thing. It was like. I said we don't want to say what happened. But it was something to experience that you know it's it's probably good that the two of them got together twenty seven years later in between that time i don't i don't think this would have gone down anywhere near like it did if it that had just been a week earlier week early and they invited to the set janet come on in something i find said is looking looking at it like madam showing clips. Yeah it was like she was really good rate. She was fantastic in that role and the way they just kind of switched her out like a new razor blade and you know the the second give but she was just not there. Well i think she just had a lot more experience in different. Parts of the arts Janet hubert was like they said in the in the reunion. You know she was a dancer. She's sanger you know. I mean there's just a lot just more performer. The al around was look. I'm going to be happy. But i'm just saying yeah man. You see that and it's like dan you kind of wish she'd been able to stay. I know there's a lot of stuff like with pregnancy and things that happen to a lot of lot of life stuff happens and it's at a point where people are in like show business doesn't give a shit about what you've got going on your personal life because if you if you they'll say we're all one big family and the minute you have a problem namely business you take care of yours because we're gonna take care. Yeah we'll smith was young. He was as i was twenty one man he said in an hurt she does have a point. She said look. There's a lot of things that you probably had over me even being twenty one. She's like a dark skinned black woman. King going into manage shit like you could The star who had quincy jones getting his back on things. So i mean there's a lot they'd be they both made points and i think you should see this but it's just there's a point where it's like. It's really not about the blame though. No it's not that they really are just like whatever the bullshit. Well let's move on to see that. It really touched my heart to see that people do that. Yeah yeah i really. I was really into this. Two man emotionally. How was i was on the verge of tears with that Some things that. I actually wish they had on the show because everybody knows the legendary episode. The one everybody cry. I never cry. When i seen clever before when i watched episode when it happened but today got me. Yeah man watching it today in this context especially really moves you yano the one man the how come he won't me man seen look. I'll call you next week. And we'll i not the details. It was great seeing you son. Yeah whatever you to lou. I want you see how quickly do lease seat. He didn't want to be no father. Bend marine boy ben. Vereen became one of the most hated man in america. Sitting up there a making big willie cry. How come you don't want me. People say i've been enough bond ass on the street. You notice after that written about heard about been between keith win. Heidi got that i would. I would love. I though some people like what did he go anyway he got hashtags a couple years ago. Who will smith what happened. Oh he had some some people some dancers he work with come out and say he was pulling some shit making advances and so just step away. I rain well. He's actually dressed like well. That explains that. We're gonna say. I wished been bahrain. Had been there but now maybe keep as says ways because i would it would have been not explain because i thought it was like why was been marine night here because that is such and such classic episode. Well i mean he's pretty old now. I mean 'cause he might be spe- to aged during nine shape to get out there plus this is really for the main cast. They aren't bringing in all the guest stars because there's so many people they could bring in if that was the case. Oh hey yeah you know what i'm saying. I think they brought in an vivian. After it done she wanted to paint here all that happy shit right you know why. She didn't get to experience yells at my worst times down. So yeah i really was about the mini chaos. That was there and speaking of trying to make it about the main cast and keep it positive. I'm glad that they didn't go in and make this political when they had a fine opportunity to do so. I mean if there was ever show that want to just add a political moment in there it was the fresh prince of bel-air because it does relate to this moment and i commend them for resisting the temptation to talk about this said his client had a rich uncle but donald trump like keeping a low profile. Seeing racist. he was on the fresh twist. Martin's give me the camera and so we went to the league. Rose want me on the show up favor. Who's this fresh prince black have money. You know this is a yeah. But they could've done. It could done that easily right there but they didn't you know You know we talk about the the the the social consciousness of the show and the message behind the show dignity and all that And in a way it was kind of the you know. Maybe revolutionaries is an extreme word. But it definitely Definitely a did allow messages presented them in ways. That other shows special with blankley's didn't but production-wise. I think they mentioned i can't say for sure. But they mentioned that they did some things On the production in that no sitcom would do that. Just wasn't allowed breaking the fourth wall. Now there's certain ways they write care to break the fourth wall sometimes the characters will the care to talk to the audience but you never see the audience really especially the audience that is. They're viewing the taping their moments were carlton not only broke the fourth wall. He ran into the audience. Like there's people watching a show in the show. What did he do that even answers. How do you do it. it's like a reverse dog ass. why yeah this like a big wiping. Becca shit. He was all on different. They you know who's always looking at the camera. It was a moment that they were playing around and even doing the special effects cheap tv special effects and doing them playing around with that. You know something. I didn't realize they did so much probably to watch the show more. We'll say using dummies to around. I'm glad you brought that up. Because that's what i said many. I'm a sucker for show. They use a dummy now. They use a lot of dummies on this. I mean going back to some classic three three stooges -talian man may swear there's nothing like a good dummy tall man. I mean 'cause i love it. When they do a dummy tulsa try to make it. Look like this right here would win the editing. Actually part of it hold on. Come on what somebody offstage isn't doing get all twisted and been the wrong way. And i try to try to edit to like lay. The same should never work a defense. he was. yeah man i love. I did a comedy. I'm telling you right now. The hell with special effects and budget on us got to be in there somewhere. I love good dummy. Toss boy ashlee. It is nice. Not took a a the tb course in college it was required if you were going to go into film studies anything and talked about certain shows that changed television. They talked about certain shows that left a cultural cultural and social impact. And look at business. This would this would fit right in. Hell yeah you know this. This definitely is a groundbreaking show And like so many levels we take for granted. And it's not. I'm not even saying that in a bad way is actually to the shows testament that it made you forget a lot of those things that you have such a good time. You know if you're not if you're not a fan of the show. I will say it'll be fun and it'll be hard not to be brought into the emotion of this others reunion. I is it anything special as far as like a full blown movie anything nas. It's a tv reunion. And i know that this will be kind of tricky. Because i do these things all the time but i will say man. I have to go in here and look at this on the level that had grabbed me in on and if he grabbed me that way is definitely going to do something for the people who grew up with. This show loved the show. Wash the show all the time. The dow i was impressed on that level I guess there's some weird editing moments in their cheesy editing moments as all these things will have. But i get this lo full price. I you know this. This is going to make me cried and laughed the way i'd do it. Make me have memories of the show that i remember. That made me feel good. I even watch it. Religiously yeah they did their job very well. Actually love this man. If you hadn't brought this to my attention and say we're gonna talk about it. I probably wouldn't have watched it just. Because i was a casual viewer of this show. You know felt felt positive towards it but didn't watch it all the time but i've also seen reunion shows of shows i've liked and loved at the end of them. I was kind of like. I don't need to do that anymore. Still remember what that show is. Not that is taking me down new clips and memory lane and whatever I i am so glad. I watched this just of all. It's it's one of the best things. At least the way it made me feel is best things. I've seen all into in two thousand twenty I love the way it was put together. The clips are good clips that match the stories or or just show things and don't feel superfluous or like they're patent out time. Beats our incredible and honestly for me. This is a high price boring on a better than sex really. Yes i one of the best reunion shows. It's ever been done. Wow nice man very nice. Yeah i love this man. I mean just even them rebuilding the old set and having them sit around and talk. There is such a great touch when this was done. I dreaded the thought of them having to part ways again. Oh yeah yeah right. Yeah i'd yeah. I'd to know that they had to you. Know probably not be able to live this moment again and as a good chance of that because all older you know that most of them still look pretty good. They look tatyana elite twenty years old but she was like okay. She was eleven thirty years ago. Three like forty one. Yes wow now. That the whole yeah. The whole cast looks good all of them. All of them look good this if somebody says what what is what is is black. Don't crack explain that to watch the popped us all right here. Yeah man now. This is how she does it. Looks amazing now. Here's a question since the show is so popular. Why did it end was it was it. Will smith decided to leave. Or i don't know look do you know this. I don't know. I wish i could tell you. That's a good question but yeah people watch it man. I'm i'm look. I'll give you don't wash. Go watch this bill enjoyed. You'll have fun. You don't want me fall into his arms at the end of the scene and he's holding me and the shot hands off. He whispered in my ear not acting this weekend at kohl's perceive on holiday gifts for everyone on your list plus an extra fifteen percent cozy must have spread. 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Vindicating Viv

Gettin' Grown

1:12:46 hr | 2 months ago

Vindicating Viv

"The how are you. I'm good good. How are you. i'm doing okay. Your hair looks pretty key. Gum our girl going. I love you girl girl. Get out of you said j. jade's dot com mom pipe. Okay let me tell you something. This is my spliff star. Go hand man yes. They hear me through the mike. Oh thank you okay. Okay we will edit it out. She's an award. Union rule will be loved by anyone. It's not unusual to have fun with anyone. But when i see you hanging about with anyone. It's not unusual to see on it. it is not unusual. Laugh at any time but we see alan. Is that a crime if you enjoyed by. Anyone is not unusual love. It happens every day no matter what you say. I don't know that i've ever heard that much of the song you know you know you know might yes is all over the place and yes indeed in price. Brazil look better him to. Oh my goodness how are you. I'm doing all right. How are you. I am wonderful I am a one mood. And i am also sleepy as every sleepy can be about three and a half hours of sleep last night. So yeah we. We roll in on on strong fumes but in good spirits in good spirits. No complaints You wanna tell people why we here we are here to You know pontificate Congress eight commiserate over in about the ghettos of doubting politics we are. We are here to celebrate surviving another week of twenty twenty. And we're going to talk about all that that meant you know those of us who were navigating the test the trials the to twist the turns the temptations and the taxes of being a real live adult in the year of our lord. Twenty twenty okay all right times so we're back and we're black and we're ready to attack Do what's up portland. Yeah we yes. I made biscuits this morning. A little flower on my nose just came out and was like what you do too much. Just hanging out in portland came right back but we got a little trash over there. Yes let's we. Well you know her usual. I was just to having a hard time with this trash situation. What i'm just giving us less fox every week but one thing that i did care very deeply about something very important that hit that hit us. megan thee stallion's new album. Oh yes indeed and honey. It is knocking. Do you hear me. It is wonderful. I absolutely enjoy it minus that one. Track yano which one the one track. I don't know why they put that. Did you listen to it yet. I should i don't even know. I asked keys eating wonton soup and just vigorously shaking her head. No but now like meghan. I just have not yet ventured into the good news. That's all i'm saying that's not well. They haven't listened to it because it wasn't like eu. It was just like. i just not jit ohno. i didn't get a vibe. I just was laughing at like. No no no no no in one time soup will. It is good. It actually opens up with a district. Your know i love to choose violence and And it opens up with a distract to the Sounds to the beautiful. Sounds of who shot ya. And obviously she's talking about the tiny man And calling him out for all his bullshit and remember niggers. Were trying to figure out like what happened with the b f f. She just kinda was there and then was not there anymore well. She called her out in the song as well in said something to the mention of them conspiring together. Oh well what if that. Yeah i don't know but that's ugly and I dunno cheaters never win. I don't know. But anyway i i thoroughly enjoy the minus one track I feel like you know. I don't like collaboration albums too often. But i think the baby and Megan thee stallion should do it album. Together they just make beautiful music as a team as a really enjoy them together. They always give you a nice little ass twerking bop so get your life enjoy it listen to it in the gym but shot out to megan who also my bad one at the. Ama's i did see her. Yes i did not. Did you wash them. Certainly not i watched. I actually spend my evening watching the real housewives of potomac because i feel like i just wanted to buy something that i knew where i knew all the people i don't i can't watch. The war shows no more because abby tired of asking its way to who was there who is the no. That's fair that's fair. Does cat won a whole bunch of awards. And i said well. What at amino kit worth until recently very recently like extremely like literally yesterday which is if he erases checks. I'm sorry i learned about doja. Cat is free and put me on you you have you heard for an equal was a friend. It was friend equal. Who put me on. But she was lactose. And i'm like no girl but it was she. Has you know she got a few little tunes and things. I just didn't realize that she was at like award. Winning status at this point while i'm out of the loop but you know shout out to all of them shut out to megan shout out to cardi. I think they want something for what i could be lying but They should have moving right along. lobos. He got shot. Did you know that Yes i think. I did know that he got shot in his leg and and because he's a diabetic. I said that wrong intentionally. Don't email me. We just like confident. We know conversations not a word. Jesus and i heard because he is diabetic there. He was at risk of losing his leg so now which put their whole member his pantry full full of rams next that whole nother context for me. Because i i had known that he was diabetic. And all even eating ramen noodles and pop tarts. I would have had much economic your arm. Oh my god shot. He bought the leg like in the soul. Food child like submit say fiance the other way. I have to be careful because i have diabetes and is old so that's a ninety of the busey. has the sugar didn't know that Digital he got shot. And then i told you last week just found out. He's thirty eight. This just will not go away. But i guess he's not doing great after he got shot and like you said there are rumors his foot or his leg may have to get amputated. So i'm not sure if that's going to be a thing or not but i guess we will see Which who anyway moving right along. Oh inside news bobby. Brown lost his son Brown junior so bad do we understand. Why do has there been any update as to what's going on So what happened was. I don't believe any foul play was was happening. But they did find him in his home in la. And i don't yeah. I don't think there's been any reports as to How this happened But i i just know that. He was founded his home. Which is just he's young. You know what i'm saying is very end. He was only twenty eight right twenty eight years old and to have you know lost to tap to bury. Two of your children is just not right. It's not right. So i feel very sad. Operators yeah man. Bobby bobby has not had a easy. You know what i'm saying. I know bobby is not the most upstanding character but like you boy hasn't had it easy and he and i don't think he ever had is he. He has and so i you know. I have a certain level of sympathy for him. I really really do So i yeah. I just wanna send we. We want to send condolences to him for the loss of his son. It's heartbreaking oh man this is why the trash man and then everything else is political. There's a li- going around. I'm not sure if it's real or not it's just a lie my mind. So don't take my my word at face value but allegedly the Orange thing sent a letter to Since a letter to Biden saying that he's ready to go ahead and start moving his shit up out of the white house. Poway boy right way. Stunts and tricks stunts and tricks. We believe nothing that comes out of your mouth but yeah so that's all that's going on there. Oh and lastly carmela had a word for you all she said. If you don't make four hundred thousand dollars you ain't got to worry about the tax plan. Stf you and that's pretty much the trash. I've got nothing else for you. Okay you can go read the shia to room. Did you know there is a shade room teens. What no apparently the shade room has like spin. Offs didn't know about the same room which is like the inspirational subsidiary of the shade room. This is what. I'm trying to tell you but i didn't know that there was one for the children. There's like eight rations of the shade room that art like under this umbrella. Now how fascinating is that fascinate. Somebody told me. I had to go. Take a look. 'cause i you know i had an follow the the room of haiti's long ago but Yeah nigga got like eight rations. I mean i guess you make money. So i'm not going to be mad at you but that's the trash today we ain't got none. It's it's it's a holiday week key. And i are tired and we are just here. Oh jesus jesus all right. Well i think we have a shoutout to get into. So shall we go over this right now. So the show out. This week is a little unique. It's a little different. We got an email. I got an email specifically from a listener. And i wanted to shout her out for taking the time out of her busy schedule to email me. And let me know that i used Distort in in the wrong context and i meant to us Utopian and then. She took the beautiful time out her schedule. To actually send me the definition through vocabulary dot com. And so thank you so much. Thank you so much for taking the time. I just wanna shout you out sis for taking that time out of your busy busy busy schedule to make sure you let me know that i use that word wrong because you know shade on here to help one another absolutely absolutely absolutely absolutely member. When joan was sitting with that she said she used a word out of context on girlfriends and said would it for like mad long k. Back and nicotine you know what she was talking about. So i said this was really on cicis. She said let me. 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That aired on hbo max that featured the original cast of the very popular show of the nineties that we all grew up to came to know and love kind of like you know transcending generates ibans for all ages come to love the show have a great deal of respect for what was bill over the six seasons of the show and i thought it was really interesting to see so we all have been privy to the beef that existed between will and original army of janet hubert. We all have known that she has taken to the interwebs on many occasions to talk bad about well and talk about alfonso ribeiro play carlton and just kind of like drag. You know the show all the rumors that she had been fired after season. Four and you know the fact that that reputation that she. I don't know if she wants they bill but like you know her. Firing kind of lead led to destroy the destroying of her reputation and says unleash from her after she leads the show. You know despite her very successful career on broadway prior to being cast is I'm bid One of the big parts of the reunion with reconciliation. That happened between will and janet who huber And i ask jade if we could talk about it. Because i thought it was really interesting to kind of see will kind of navigate this and share it with us. You know who whom you know because kind of like the elephant in the room like we all just had a new embiid and season five and was never it was never talked about or steph publicly until very recently and so You know. I thought it would be cool to kind of talk about forgiveness and reconciliation and all of that and i told you earlier and learn later learned. I learned today that will did a takeover of the red table talk where he impact the conversation between him and janet hubert with his. They're pissed are psychologists and they again just extend this conversation about You know what it means the kind of own up to take responsibility for things that you have done And that that were hurtful to other people whether or not you intended to hurt them I also thought it was interesting that carton or alphonso ribeiro who played cartoon was noticeably absent when janet hubert returned and the other cast members. I later learned. I didn't even share this with but after we spoke i learned that he said that it was not intentional. He just wasn't available like that day. I guess they shot the thing over two days and he was on for one day. So that's just not. He was not there he said it was no he was working and that's why he was not there. I guess he would have been there if he were available. He had to shoot america's funniest home videos so he wasn't able to stay for the full duration of the union. But janet huber was on some radio. Show this weekend and someone asked her about it. I saw this on entertainment tonight. I think it was online somewhere. And they asked her about it and she she said he was working and it was no shade so she would hope that people would not make anything up but she did not let the moment pass without throwing a little shade at carleton she. She was like you know. I heard he had to go. And shoot america's funniest home videos which i haven't watched since he hosting but you know that's why he wasn't there so low soul yoshi. Let me tell you she she digs up. Which light like With understandably right it was. It was what i said without saying i would say but i wanted to just kind of unpack. What happened our reactions to it. Both i said there after washing the whole reunion we find ourselves in motion place and didn't expect to be there so i just thought it would be cool. My gosh Talk about around the kitchen table. Something you know like Given the thanksgiving holiday and and some of us interacting with hopefully safely socially distanced but interacted may or may not be interacting with family dealing with things all situations. How how am i. We engage people who have a are we. Are we ready to move forward and forgive our. we still hurt all those kinds of things. but yeah just just kind of throw to uses. Tell me what your initial reaction's where to either the reunion or the or the red. We'll talk because you know i'll share. How after but what was it like for you to watch will and dark. I'm bid you know. Go go at it head to head. Well okay so She made it clear she wasn't fired. I wanna make sure you do. She made me leave. She was like i wasn't fired. I was given a shitty contract. And i turned it down. So let's be clear there. My initial reactions in all honesty were Will are you to make this about yourself i to. That's what he's he yes he did because it was it was looking like one thing but it it turned into something much better So i really appreciated the fact pursue foremost that in her hurt and in all of this. She was very clear about why she felt the way that she felt. Because i find even with myself people. I know we have a habit sometimes of saving face for the other person even if we're the ones who have been hurt And i thought it was really beautiful and powerful that she looked him right in his face and let him know the very reasons why she felt the way that she felt. Right right i got very clearly communicated and i was like lutely. Okay i can. I think i think to me. You demonstrated that dangerous like how or how dangerous silence can be yeah You know because for me. It was like neither of them. A neither of them has spoken after anything happened. And for twenty seven years both had kind of reach their own conclusions about what was what the situation was and were wrong. And you know have been kind of festering in this in these feelings of betrayal and pain and Her mencken fusion and ego sitting in all of that for almost thirty years and it man. Shorty yeah and the basis of it was like false information. It was both of them was just like what i didn't know that's how you feel and not in. No that's what happened. And i didn't know this is not that loom will say he didn't know what contracts she was offered with. She is he kinda woody right but he assumed you know without information that she did not take the contract because she was being diva or you know he was saying he felt he he felt threatened by instead of empathizing or enquiring. He said he felt threatened and she said that she completely vilnai's him because it was him who made the call when in fact he said he had no knowledge of what she was offered or any of that had nothing to do with the business of that but she kind of blamed him so i i just thought it was fascinating how you know all all of us i mean and i'm i am guilty of this and i'm also a victim of it. You know people who don't speak we haven't spoken for a long time and because we don't see the communication is not there we can go back and kind of makeup a circumstance or situation in our head and convince ourselves that it's the truth and beck's based on that we just operated our feelings are based in this in is false information and if we would just be willing to like like we'll say ego aside put self aside because what i was drunk i like you. I was afraid that will what's going to make this about him. But i was struck. By how much listened. I was like grown both business because we'll sat with his mouth closed and listen to that woman for the majority of the of their conversation and i thought i'm like this. This is what it means to be a grownup and this is what also listen an hour. Just saying it's supposed to this out. 'cause i think more than i grow up. I'm learning that being in a relationship with people requires a level of selflessness. That many of us are not a trained or we're not taught how to be right. You have to come to you have to. It's not in a lot of us to be that selfless when you really connected to someone you have to be. You know willing to listen to them and and willing to consider their perspectives. We are not trained as human beings in an american culture to think about other people. I we are. We are so consumed in self obsessed but i think real relationship requires selflessness in a way that will demonstrate it. And i was just like this is good to me like identifying and acknowledging ways in which we are contributing to making other people uncomfortable with our selfishness and our and and being consumed with ourselves in a lot of it with people as unintentional. Right look at will. He said he was twenty one years old and he didn't use that as an excuse. Right absolutely perspective context. I don't have that. I don't what twenty one years. I don't even know how to do that. I don't know how right like right at twenty one. Oh how many of us were were. Were misconstruing so many different things because we didn't understand what was going on and just basically live in our own bubble. You know what i'm saying. And i appreciated the fact that she brought up The angry black woman trope. And how she's like you know. It was presented this way but in all honesty i was eight trying to protect myself and be in a awful situation. I'm i'm in an abusive relationship in abusive marriage. You know what i'm saying. My her family her family not only was she Blackballed in the industry. Essentially her family kind of ousted her because they said that she gave their name abed a bad name she gave. She put them in a bad light. Which a man like. That's losing everything and that's opportunity and an opportunity to take care of your family in a certain way. She brought that up And she's like. I wasn't angry. I was protecting myself. And i was dealing with so many things. And that's put off on so many of us as well and she gets it. You know she. She also spoke about the fact that she didn't know she was going to get the part. She was grateful to get the part. She was so happy to get the part because she didn't have that representation in the industry. Like i never saw a woman who looked like me and a role like this sort of to for them to do that to her and be able to treat her so disposable and also spoke to the evilness of the powers. That be. Because and i do see. I do feel like they're still a part of her. That was kind of still blaming him for it But i was listening reading in between those lines. I said oh it was the executives. Yeah then nameless. We don't even know who they are like the person who probably roll up that deal. That was horrible. Right like The had that crazy stipulations. She was offered for season five. She was only offered ten weeks of production and she was not a allowed to work anywhere. So with like how do you expect a grown person to survive and be only able to work ten weeks out of out of a year out of a season and literally them from getting income elsewhere. Like that's just not that's not fair so it was a terrible deal and nobody would have taken it. I mean i can't think of a person in her shoes You know that would but you know the person who who who did that. We probably don't know who they are. But that's why i felt. I have a greater respect for will because he owned that. It wasn't his decision. It wasn't something that he advised them to do. But they did it. And he was blamed for it by janet hubert and even though he didn't do it he was willing to apologize for for he was willing to stand up and say you know i had nothing to do with that but it did hurt you. There were things that i could have done to protect you in failed to do that I can't make an excuse for that. So i do apologize. I really really. I really think like. I was just very impressed with What the whole thing. Both they've reunion with the conversation happened and then the the red table talk where they kind of unpack the conversation really added another layer because during that time they were able to kinda paused. A conversation and will with the therapists was able to really talk about well. What was that. and what. And we got a little bit more insight into what will with dealing with who he was with his demons and struggles were what his limitations were. What his issues were in all the work that he's been doing on himself to kind of recover from those things and i just thought it was really well done. It made me think about situations in my life. Where i'm i've dealt with family members or friends or people who have hurt me And i have allowed this-in time to separate And i like what would it. What would it look like for me to try to go back and have the conversation. I had to really deal with whether or not. I'm ready to do that. And in some cases. I think i am and in some cases. I don't think i am mike. I don't know that's real though. I have to acknowledge where i am. Like what level of readiness. I have to be able to sit and put myself aside long enough to here. And i want to say oh absolutely are i'll be down to do it but the truth is i don't know In certain situations. If i'm ready to have that conversation What about you are there. Are there things that you think of. Yeah it's it's funny. You brought that up because watching this in in having these conversations and really like thinking about this it actually immediately made me think about guess somebody who had become a friend More recently in the past couple of years and you know a situation with completely awry and they pissed me off and they piss me off so bad. I wasn't ready to have that conversation. 'cause i felt like i was gonna say really ugly things In all honesty like it just wasn't ready. And it's not because i i didn't want to be an adult or you know i didn't want to say i'd i knew i was gonna say very ugly things because i still feel the way that i feel but now that that anger has dissipated Actually watching this brought that up. And i'm going to contact that person and i'm gonna be very pointed about why i cut them off and why feel the way that i feel because that is valid. But i do think that it is fair to communicate that to them so that they have a very clear understanding And i think it's also well within my right. Sometimes you're not ready to have that conversation like he said. Sometimes you're not ready right then. I was in so much irritation and anger at that point. I didn't even. I didn't wanna talk to this person. Because i didn't want to say those ugly things to them and i knew i would. You know what i'm saying. So sometimes we know we need to have those conversations but we need to be ready to have them you know times. You've got to let those emotions kind of pass a little bit so that you can be very clear because they went twenty seven years with this rift and she was able to look him in his face and be very very clear without anger and letting him know the ways in which she fell hurt and hurt him by will when ultimately i know it was. Some man named bill somewhere was now willard. Some old white men named bill who did all of this in all honesty and and we'll and we'll got thrown under the bus as a young black man in the industry. And i'm not saying that he's without fault because he definitely owned those faulty is not without at all. But that's another conversation for sure. And i think any of us have been the scapegoats for them. I have been really honest about like even as the more. I think about This i i'm like this is such a gift. Like what a blessing. I'm thinking about all the people who didn't get a chance to have that conversation with. Or i know that i never will be able to down and tell them listening. You hurt me this way. And as a result of what you did you know. These things happened in my life. And i was like what a blessing to be able to sit down with. The person who you thought was responsible for your pain and ask them why and that is such a gift so many people don't get to know why i don't get to know why i i mean into fully transparent like i asked my daddy. Why like when he came back into my life after my brother passed and that initial conversation and i was like you know what what is on. Where have you been for these last fifteen years. And why were you gone so long. He was basically. I 'cause i was like all he had to give me. He just he didn't have they got exactly. But you know that. I have had to literally come to grips with the fact that like you know his own ragged way. This is the best answer he could he could muster at this time. He's i don't feel like he's capable of you. Know facing the real y and so. This is what he has to say. And that's all i'm going to write. But wha- give their jenner was able to sit with will who had obviously done the work on himself to be able to take responsibility for The fact that she was heard whether or not they were directly a result of his actions. And i'm just like. Wow what an awesome gift. And i don't even know if she appreciated right but it's like that's a big deal janet hubert. I don't know if you know that but girl that's huge like so many people don't get to say Say to there to there to whoever hurt them this is you know this is how you hurt me and i want to know why and get an answer. Yeah it was just really awesome. I'm just glad that they got to have that conversation. And made me think and reflect which is always good. It pulled them by motions Just how much of a cultural impact. The show had and it was just good to kind of see where everyone was. Everyone's doing Jazz surprisingly looked really good to me. I was like look at you as he did. I said look at chuck harmony. Kit was good to see little nicky grownup. Still looking like himself. I mean when i tell you he literally looks like child with not he walked. Oh shit rashes. Like he looks exactly the same head shape. Say everythi yes you know i mean. Let's be frank here. let's. Let's let's just be frank when little nicky showed up to two fresh prince. We all say. Why janet hubert was friendly. Yes they had to write him into the show. I understand it was just like really need this but it was beautiful. Come together and like you said. I got emotional. Like i literally had emotional moments I got a little emotional. Ingenious spoke about how hard her life got. 'cause i just i felt for her a really did i felt for her But it was beautiful to see her. And daphne daphne. Yes max worries stephanie reich. Much well read yes. It was beautiful to see them. Actually meet you know. There was rumors back in the day that they had a feud you know and these ladies had never even looked at each other in the face. These ladies had never even met each other. Now like one person you know got one person was no longer with the show in the next person got hired of course. They're going to create a narrative but they never met and so to see them both with will into see how i think it was the emotional reactions of the cast into see how genuine those reactions were. Yes and that they truly were They had a lotta love among one another and it was very apparent that they had a lot of love along among one another. I think that's what really got me and just an astrologer like sitting there. And remembering these episodes i watched the reunion and the table talk with but as they were playing old clips and things like that. We're quoting with the to the rest of them and to the right of them like we are having a blast in to be able to do that. And then you know you had karen who was talking about how she'll have people tell her how much they love the show and now how they're introducing it to. Their children is the same thing with us. We're like oh. I can't wait to put no on fresh prince lake. She's gonna have a blast with the fresh prince. Oh just to see that that genuine connection and to be able to see them all come together and that moment where you know with james avery that was very very emotional and to see how much of an impact he had on all of them. It was just really really beautiful and I think we all just got a little bit of life watching that i you know. Maybe i'm assuming but i know i did. I enjoyed it. And i haven't i don. I really don't have anything bad to say. Honestly i was glad that i watched it. I was glad that i it felt like the right time. We all needed this little. This little nudge of nostalgia right now. It just kind of like set the tone for what. I hope to be Just like a seamless end of the year and a sleeveless transition into a better situation in twenty twenty one and i appreciate it we. We spoke about will's accountability. But i appreciated the accountability from the from the perspective that he spoke about his. I don't want brand. I hate using that word. But you know being About positivity and building people up and encouraging people and we see that's really who become right. He's really he. Is this person. He's living this so to see him. Actually live this and make amends and reach out and try to do this in the correct way with a therapist and make sure you know they have the therapist as mediator just in case and really take accountability and apologize and listened to her. I thought that was really beautiful to see him. Actually put action to what he says he's about and that's something that a lot of people don't do so i thought that was really. Oh yes it was lovely and it was a good lesson and it was a good reminder for myself it was absolutely let us know if you guys check it out if you had thoughts if there's something that we missed something that resonated with you something that you really enjoy we would love to continue this conversation absolutely but we just thought it would be cool to kind of unpack the reunion and what we thought about it. So yeah. that was our kitchen table. Hopefully it popped it. Hopefully apart like this reuse special lease get onto this little honesty back a year. Twenty twenty has been chow. Who get holiday. Season is feeling less like the cherry on top and more like the straw. That broke the camel's back understand bell. Okay whether it's a stress anxiety depression or just general make this. Your stop has the tools to help you feel better. Get therapy coaching self care. Peer support step by step guided journeys and more all in one app. Plus your journey is customizable to you. 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And you know people are up in the air about whether or not they want to visit relatives whether or not they want to go over a certain loved ones homes or what have you And it's not a shame to anybody who is trying to do things the right way if you in three of your neighbors are all getting tested and quarantining hard body and decide to have a little thanksgiving together. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. If you and twelve negatives of all varying burroughs decide to come together and you don't know what other people have been doing. That's a hot spot. But i wanted to read this email from this listener and we want to thank her as well and we will tell you why in a moment. Hey ladies i just want to thank you. So much for your podcast. I've been listening since the beginning. And i love the messages that you share with us. Weekly i want to specifically thank you for your last episode. I work as a nurse in hospital. And while i don't work with covid. Nineteen patients on a regular basis at the moment. Thank you for. The extended petty peeve at the end of the last episode. Your last episode reminded me that i have to be thankful for my family's in my health. The fact that i am employed in that my family is able to remain together. I commend you for him. Imploring people to follow their states guidelines regarding social distancing regarding covy and nineteen. This is not a game. It is very sad and as a nurse in american and as a human being the people cannot put their own personal needs aside to do what is right for the general public especially our children elderly and the compromised. I don't know how many ways this can be said but it's not a hoax and people are dying daily. Tell your listeners. To keep their asses inside and wear a mask that is covering their mouth and nose and social distance as much as possible. I know i'm preaching to the converted. But i cannot thank you enough for everything that you do for us as listeners to continue to spread the message of safety regarding covid nineteen. I hope you ladies have a safe holiday season and forgot to give you the strength to continue to do the good work that you do love you all. And that's from grace. So i wanted to read grace's email this week and i know you know we. We do have our petty peeves and things. Grace's a nurse. Grace has a family grace. Don't need your black ass. And nothing to her and her family and neither do all of the other graces throughout the world especially here in ghetto s america so while you all are hopefully being very thankful and grateful this week and in general in contemplating how to maneuver during such a difficult time that i know none of us have really faced and i know a lot of people are having a really really hard time and i wanna make sure you all get your love. There's a lot of people who are by themselves and they're not having an easy time doing that. And we wanna send you love over here getting grown. We know it's not easy but we appreciate you for doing what you need to do to stay safe so if we can just all really think about one another okay Let's try to do that. Think about your loved ones. I know you want to see your gramma or your mom or your on t. cousins but what is that going to everybody else. You know what i'm saying. So and was i gonna do to you to. You'll know what the negative been doing. So grace thank you so much for for writing in keep grace safe and keep all of our grace's safe and that's our honesty box this week. It thank you grace. We love you grace. We appreciate you. Let's get into our black people. Self care i dis. Oh it's time for black people self care in the end you know. I had so many things that i did this week to just care for myself. You know from cova test mountain visits. But what i want to talk about specifically this week is thursday night when i took the lovely time to sit and watch the jesus vs gucci and zeus Did you watch it. I watch bits and pieces. I was kind of negatives. Were choosing violence that night. Okay as i do most of the time and so but it's my black is my black woman self care because that's my that's that's our era. That's when we were in the club. That's what we were getting busy to. Not not busy late there but we were in the club. We was having a good time. We was partying. Jesus you know what i'm saying. We was in our prime. I've seen somebody tweet that day. And there was like how we are with us in the club in two thousand eight. And i was like nigga grown at paying rent in a car. No because they will. I was ten. I was like okay. This is clearly so go. Listen a little uzi vert and get the food. You want pimples to pablo nigger low everywhere. You look dirk. Go listen to them. Nick to get out of here then. Talking about how old. I was in the club negative. I was in the club and they got going to work. Nigga i was fucking guy was grown i was on my second. Lay off like at a life but that was a black woman self care because i had a grand grand time and yes it was entertaining and yes points were made. And let's just give you all a quick if you don't know let me just give you a quick negative history real quick and where this beef stemmed from jisi and gucci mane young z. Put a hit out for gucci right in a sense where he told negative snatch chain national chain. You already know what else is going to be involved in a you know what type of nigga gucci was. So you knew what you were doing when you did that right now. This was twenty years ago. Yes it was but this is how the beef started. So that's what happened. Knicks went after a gucci ended. Up getting one jesus name and that's why he got up on stage and gloated In that way that he did where we all sat there and had our mouths wide. The puck opening. Like what is happening right. Now why is this. Negative mix tape tracks. He's like fuck it. I am here with an agenda so the petty me then night. Really got life the the Twenty something you're older than me. Who was in the club really got a life that night and noah had never seen her parents in such a way as she did the evening as we got our lives to young z and gucci mane gucci evangelist bourgeoisie. Jesus managed to even though those those jenny. My jokes those ginny. My comments were taking your girl down somebody he. Koa the back right now looking like a highlighter killer and a back right now trying to sell ginny my waist trainer so but that's my black woman self care that is really what made me happy last week. we're shores. Well that's awesome. And i think you deserve thank you this. Let's see my bra and black women of care. What did i do. Oh okay this is a good one. I have been really intentional about talking to my grandma every day. I love that she. You know you know just like most grandma's getting older in having some challenges with our mobility and that's messing with our because she's not as independent and she wants was And you know she was dino the executive administrator of everything and just kind of running everything around the house so for her to have to kind of you know have to rely on other people to do things for her is the bit of a challenge personally and so she's been kind of down on her spirits and so i committed last week to talk to her every day because We both kind of we both enjoy. Each other is just having that connection and my mom was saying like you know it really helps our mood when you talk to her and i was like i want you to know. It helps my mood when a for her like. I'm not just doing this service to her. But i just maintaining that their family connection is been clench and it's been really hard Jay was talking about earlier even an honesty box. I'm one of those people who is alone by force right this season. I haven't seen my family since. Christmas of twenty nineteen been able to travel at all to see any of my of my family and that has been tough right. Because i'm usually down there. You know two three times a year to spend time with them and you know it's just you know because of kobe made a decision at is just bath and safe for us to kind of just kind of you know do do it. We have to do thanksgiving in hopes that we can figure something out. Maybe for christmas or into the new year borough for right now. We made a decision as the family for everyone and just kind of stayed put so that no one will be taking a risk and traveling So i'm having that time with her on. A daily basis has really been something that has fed me me spiritually and can and kept me going and i was intentional about maintaining that commitment. It's hard to we can think i'm going to try to keep it up because it has really made a difference breath. I love that we have to if you have the blessing and the privilege of having your your grandparents great grandparents or figures in your life. Yeah any figuring your life. Who's who who is in that kind of place. We gotta do better about making sure that we contact them and talk to them and really like spend time it feeds their souls in a feats hours. I had a moment this week. And i was talking about my burst into tears. I stopped saw her on my way to chicago last year and as soon as i got to her apartment i gave her a hug. Burst into tears is like i love my grandma and the older i get the more i realized what a blessing and a privilege it is to not only be raised with her to really like no her and be able to have that relationship And i call her. Try sitting there food. Every you know every week and a half or so through ubereats. I'll just order some dinner. She's a simple lady. She likes a little red lobster. Shit like that like can you. I just want some fridays. Can you give me the shrimp pasta. You yeah. I love that. I love i love. I love it. That's feeding your soul and that was your black woman self care. I think that's beautiful sis or shorts. Beautiful home well again. We like to end on on negatively in chaos. So it's time to head on over to those petty thieves. And i want to be very responsible of the things i say to my sister because everybody can be view eddie. P. e. to the t. t. y. All right in the spirit of petty. I have to say is that My beef is with myself and this goes out to all of you know my family. My girls and guys and folks in the binary who are on our forty side of thirties. You know what i'm saying. We are on more about thirty s. We are staring down. The barrel of forty and our bodies day by day by day by day are given this indication right that the numbers are going up and down right. Okay girl you ate too much garlic all kinds of of messages right and so i got a message like like i have been really trying very diligently trying to be disciplined about you know staying fit working out regularly and i just not just about and i think i'm growing in this because and i don't want to. I'm just want to take a moment. That acknowledged what progress. I'm seeing myself. 'cause i don't often do that but i'm realizing that this journey is less about being a certain size or a certain wind right because i have. I have for a long longtime struggled around. You know the way that my body is naturally right. I've never really been someone who has been. Who is you know. Just you know super skinny slim and trim. I've always been a taller girl with a larger frame And i've got curves way. My body is just set up. I've not. I'm not built to be a hundred and thirty pounds. That's just never been my testimony ever in my life so no me so is taken me a long time to come to accept that and for a long time i did a lot of unhealthy things trying to be a hundred and fifty pounds. You know not e- right. Eating often not eaten at all a high in pepper die. I have. I have you know unhealthy ideas around way. You know working now. I don't really enjoy trying. You know all these different things. I put myself through. But this time i was more focused on being healthy and you know reaching various goals in my fitness not necessarily trying to get to another size. I mean i thought it would be nice calm. I just wanna look nice in my clothes right versus staying. I wanna be a certain weight. And i feel like i have held myself to that standard and ask such. I've been really diligent around conditioning. My body to do different things things i've not ever been able to do or haven't been able to do in a really long time and so i've been training You know even even almost theory november is marathon month. And so you can run a marathon cumulatively over all thirty days of november or you can run a half marathon so i signed up and we did a mile benchmark a couple of months ago. I was really not pleased with my time. Like how long it took me run a mile and so i asked him trainers. I'm other staff there to help me to kind of get better about running and running faster being able being able to run for longer and so this month. That's something i've been working on doing. And i've been doing well. I've seen progress in myself and so bad so saturdays class. I took a class on saturday. Of course socially distanced clean and safe. Route took a class on saturday. And i thought that i did. I did really well. I literally ran like almost two miles during the treadmill block and the whole treadmill block. I was able to like run faster than run in the. You know. 'cause they have like your base pace you push pace and then you're all outpace. I increase both my push. 'em all out and i didn't die didn't fall and i just left the gym day. I burn like over six hundred calories. I left the gym. That feeling like an athlete. I was like i did that out here. And then. I woke up saturday with a swollen ankle. Instead of my body you know even in my own celebration right. My body was like girl you had did that but you may be too much. I don't know whether adrenaline was doing. But you are not jackie joyner-kersee you might want to like you know. Not be sprinting on the treadmill like you twenty two okay all right. Thank you so much and so right now. I'm sitting here recording with jay. My butt in a chair and it is. It is surrounded by a gallon of ice. And i am just trying to wrap my brain around the fact that despite my efforts to be fit strong. I'm sitting up here injury. Okay and my parents. Is they just whack to begin old. You know what i'm saying. And maybe wag because i waited this old to try to get fit and i got off my behind maybe ten years ago and started running on a treadmill. I wouldn't be seeing here. Would a gallon of ice on my ankle. Okay that's my upset with myself. I gotta an attitude with myself even despite my efforts. But yeah pray for me. As i tried to now all upset. I went to the gym again today. I probably did too much. I probably should have done more low impact. But i'm still trying to you know limp along on a tragedy because now more stressed out so i've agreed to take a couple of days off this week and if i go back to the if i go back and work i'm going to do low impact. Maybe i'll get on elliptical and the treadmill wild ride a bike and luca treadmill. I'm still working on your pray for me. I'm working on. Maybe getting a bike or something to have here at the house. Oh for when things shut down as they need to. I i will be able to kind of keep a with doing something and keep myself fit every day and i think a bike is just you know. I'm less likely to injure myself on on a bike. So y'all probably from me okay. Because i have a lot of things by okay but i'm working on trying to get that get that done but yes that's my people today. I'm upset with myself because of age. Thank you. I'm upset news coming up. My head is shout out to your ankle with big swollen on your leg. I was talking to coach. He's thank you yeah he does look a little puffy. I'm like way get out of here. Laffy she's at the charter was like he's like he did so good. You would so hard. Maybe she just ease. Maybe just a little bit. How so excited. i know. i'm jesse spencer. The bull. I'm ready got i'm running. My ankle is like beach. we not running game. My ankle is like hold your horses. That on god framed a lot of garlic. This morning felt it all day. I was disgusted mantras. We need we need a little baking soda in warm water site. My pet peeve this week is we. We go back to the drivers. Hello welcome Went up to mountains this weekend. Beautiful beautiful beautiful you know it gets wangdi gets narrow it gets dangerous and like zoom zoom. And then you're driving and they wanna be riding your ass while we're turning these twists and in corners and shit and let me explain to you how. I'm literally not going to go any faster. Because you are riding my ass on these twists and these turns you can go around me and smack your ass into a tree if you want to ask for me in my household always go in this smooth twenty three and sometimes thirteen depending upon how wind e this shit is and you can just go live your life somewhere so i just i just for the for. The people who liked to ride people's tells let me explain to you. How a nigga like me. That is literally never going to impact the way that i drive if anything. I'm gonna go slower. And that's my pet peeve this week s a real simple real simple real simple oh and again to piggyback off of last week's all you niggers who want to compound after the jisi gucci versace. You better not the fuck be going to see. You're grandma's and you're on tease which you raggedy is word. What time. I'm just wanted them to be alive. I mean atlanta atlanta atlanta is open. Atlanta is not closed out of what's happening been what's the pani a blue and it's just like out here like the. Kobe is just gone. Meanwhile the rest of over here. Oh i also. I want you to please explicitly understand that yes. Twenty twenty was the ultimate ghetto. We completely understand this. We are living in just because it hits twenty. Twenty one doesn't mean you ought to take the mass off shit don't change like it's not getting ready to magically go away continue to do the things you need to do because peaks are up okay peaks and valleys honey. We are at peaks. We are mountainous right now in numbers. So please please please please. And that's another episode of getting growing. Oh let me tell you about how. This was a struggle up so tired booth. That's another leading right now. Three and a half hours of sleep can do that at a certain age. No you can't either because girl. I don't know who you think you are. Because i just that's done. I'm literally sitting on a cloud right now and i am not talking about the weed. I am like buzzing off of whatever the this where another episode gay grown. Thank you off eliciting per usual. Please enjoy yourselves. you know. It's okay if you make in a mill for one to three. That is just fine. You didn't have literally every fixing you want now. You can be making a meal for one if you wanna have. Eight sides a turkey and a ham. That is your business. And i am rooting for you. Need to because this is about to be and this insta by. So what's up short ribs up. I think so. I think i'm gonna put them in. The i bought from the store. I just need to figure out how to prepare them. But yes i'm gonna okay. We're gonna talk offline. I'm help prepare them okay. Hopefully i don't ruin them. But i think you will not ruin them. Speak positively absolutely me speaking positively. Thank you we're going to get off your your airways at this time. Please tell the people what they need to do this. In addition to having a safe in socially distant holiday zoom zoom nigger mean all. You want to do it. In as little as they. After a grandma's room stop shaking. Iran thanksgiving after parties. No black friday function. Nfc day your tails at home. Thank you so much. Okay god bless your heart but yes. That's what we need to do in addition to that You know Take care of yourself and your loved ones. Think about somebody other than yourself Take take take these on chin like the rest of us and get some winds down. Yes in addition to moisturizing your mind by minding your business and uh moisturizing your body by drinking your water and moisturizing your skin by you know coconut oil than all of all of the moisturizer that you have in your home. Wok is because everybody who was at the compound. Count covid. well i hope now please. I hope not either. Goddamn okay back. Tis the season to be jolly for who exactly if the most wonderful time of the year actually feels like the most stressful cinderella can help. San velo has everything you need to manage stress and feel better all in one app including tele therapy coaching self-care tools and community. That gets it. Get free premium and coaching for two weeks by visiting san velo dot com slash grown san velo a place to feel better.

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Scott Disick Dates Another Teen, Dolly Parton Cures Covid, TV Reboots/Reunions, RHONY Romance Update, And More!

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Scott Disick Dates Another Teen, Dolly Parton Cures Covid, TV Reboots/Reunions, RHONY Romance Update, And More!

"It's china of places. I go see. Hi i'm ashley. Hoover faker tasty reality dot com gossip guru self-proclaimed fan girl and pop culture enthusiasts with a sweet spot for nostalgia. You're listening to on this day. Entertainment a podcast. All about the greatest reality tv and pop culture happenings from today yesterday. and tomorrow. Welcome to the fanny. Pack in the words of bethany frankel. It's time to mention it all without further ado for this week in reality. Tv and celebrity. News i'm going to serve all of the reunion news. Just right off hand ready for it. I hope so. 'cause i'm coming at ya. This was the week of reunion news. And i have to say i'm here for it. So obviously they've been bringing back a bunch of super nostalgic eighties s and ninety s. Tv shows movies back into our modern day lexicon and it's been controversial. There are some new remakes coming at us. That i have to say i am very excited about one actually just premiered and the news from this had me shaken. I can't believe i haven't watched the. I've been just in the middle of a ton of disney plus binges as in i have been watching disney plus nonstop from big business to home alone. What else did i watch. Three men and a baby turner in who the classics are nonstop over there. Anyway i digress. Let me talk to you about the fresh prince reunion. That just happened. I'm shaking my core in the most beautiful way possible. Because if you forgot will smith and the original on. I've played by janet hubert. They have had some real well. Obviously i mean she was only the ant on the show for three years they were definitely not pleasant to each other in the media over the years there just bad some shady comments from both of them about the creative differences that she cited when she left the show. They've been tangled up occasionally in the public eye and they sat together and how to really deep conversation. Apparently i watched the clips twenty-seven years later it's an hbo max reunion special and apparently they really had it out. As far as like why they had such issues onset will smith had said back in the day that he was sure that janet wanted it to be the olive of bel air show and obviously that was very annoying him. Her opinion was that he was cocky. Immature which was when he was a kid. This was not going to happen. There was a partial street in in twenty eleven. Janet was league now he is a child. Still never do a reunion or anything like that without an apology. She called them. And if i'm not mistaken fast forward to twenty twenty and it's happening in the words of shimmery shea it's all happening and they got together and have buried the hatchet and i love that. I love how janet was just so honest she said and this is a quote to will said you were going forward and getting bigger and bigger. We knew you were going to be huge. Then she kept on saying that you know the problems we had weren't you was while i was going through at home and will smith jumped in saying that. He has children that he's been divorced. He's in his second marriage. And this is a quote. And i can see now the level of pain in the level of struggle that it was for you just to show up every day who. This is what what got me. Janet said she said. I lost everything reputation. Everything and i understand you were able to move forward but you know those words calling a black woman. Difficult in hollywood is the kiss of death and it's hard enough being a dark skinned black woman in this business and will smith came back saying. Thank you for sharing that with me. He didn't know that now. That in retrospect he understands and wants to be somebody that protects her moving forward and he apologized for the long. Running feud apologized. Honestly you guys twenty twenty. Maybe things will be okay after all. Oh i knew everything was going to be okay when i saw. There was a first wives club at reunion coming up. Goldie hawn confirmed. Diane keaton bette midler. I'm absolutely here for it again. This is a reunion. I don't know fresh prince from what i understand. It was like conversations of the cast. From what i understand what. They're calling the reunion for first wives club. It's going to pick up on the story where it left off so we're going to see the foundation. I would hope that the ladies developed during the first wives club. So that's what i'm hoping to see. Move forward. let's keep our fingers crossed that it doesn't suck and Speaking of things. That i think are probably gonna suck the new saved by the bell. Reboot comes on soon. And i'm not really excited for it. It looks pretty terrible. But of course. I'll watch and i really hope to like it like i really hope i'm wrong on it another one. I'm really hoping i'm wrong on. Is the friends reunion. Matthew perry went on the record clarifying that. The friends reunion was rescheduled for march. Twenty twenty one and we shall see how that turns out. I am not holding my breath. And i'm not anticipating it to be great either. I don't know why my expectations. While i know my expectations have gotten so low. Obviously i hope i'm wrong. Maybe i'm just a negative these days but yeah it's i wanna be excited but i'm not yet. We'll say that. In here i am. I'm actually thrilled about this one. It's not a remake but it was just announced that queen. Sarah paulson of course from american horror story. She's just in ratchet. I actually just finished a revenge of the people vs oj. It's currently on netflix. My sister and brother-in-law just watched it not too long ago for the first time ever and we're shaken by how good it wise and it's just like for anybody really. I mean if you were alive in the nineties like the oj case was something we couldn't get around like it was everywhere in the media like there was no fiction. That was better than what was happening in that case and speaking of great cases sarah paulson is starring in impeachment. The american crime story. Of course it's going to be ryan murphy. The impeachment special actually focuses on. Sarah paulson character linda tripp and her friendship and the tapes with monica lewinsky about the infamous blowjob. Can i just say that as somebody who was like sixteen. I think when it all came about about these blowjobs. I had no idea what a blow job was. I had no idea that you would put that thing in your mouth like seriously like i. It was something. I was absolutely not ready for an not only was i not ready to hear that. I was not ready to hear that about the president of the united states. So creepy do well. After being taught about that by monica lewinsky and bill clinton at all. I mean this was a whole media. So speaking of media circuses where the truth is better than any fiction. You're gonna find. This story was amazing. I mean from the blue dress the cigar these tapes. They were friends. And you think about it if you haven't watched and actually spoke of this on Grants rants last week. If you didn't hear my appearance on grants rants go back and listen. I had a great time ranting with him. But if you haven't watched the monica lewinsky. Ted talk from cash at least five years ago probably now. Oh my god. It's amazing like she talks about how she was like. The first person who was online bullied and it's shrew like. I didn't know what a blowjob was. And it's not like we had the internet around two lakes right like what is a job or what is oral sets. I had no idea like when i was in like ninety six. There were computers in offices and maybe in schools or businesses but it wasn't like home. Pc's were a thing like common and even if you did have a home pc. It wasn't there was no internet or if there was internet there wasn't a search engine like there wasn't like a bank of information where you could type in a question into a search bar and get an answer that did not exist. You would have had to have asked another person. What the fuck is a blowjob or gone to the damn library and used the dewey decimal system to figure out what one is so our options were limited so that was a really long way of saying. I'm really excited for the new. Sarah paulson impeachment american crime story. If you love sarah paulson. I did a patriot episode. That is still not on patriotic. 'cause i'm forty s fuck and came figure out how to put that shit up there but it's on the regular podcast feed so go. Listen to it there. Let's go ahead and start with monday's news. This was so bizarre. We started off the week with larson pin. Who of course was in the real housewives of miami back in the day. Who is more popular in known as scottie. Pippen's wife and the kardashians friend. Of if i may. She's friends with kim khloe air. And courtney wow i love how it makes. I have to really think about those. Women's names feels good not to give a shit about them. Even though i give shit about way too many things that i shouldn't give a shit about that one does feel good any way. So larson pippen is in bed. She takes a picture of her left. Low which is raised out of bed and she writes some taxed on the picture and it puts it in her instagram story. Saying i have cova d- i feel terrible. This joe and within an hour took it down and has no other news of that so she put it out there. She took it away. And of course i had to go stock or instagram page. And i think she said she had had it for a week in her picture and i went through her instagram page. And she had just been outliving. Your best live. She'd been out swimming and hang out and taking taking sexy photos. So i don't know island. She seemed to have been miserable. Why did he take it down. I don't know it seems really shady though and she's been really trying to push yourself into the mainstream. I would not think anybody would lie about something like that. But let us never forget that broke and vicky gumbleton lied about cancer on real housewives of orange county. Well also in cove news on tuesday. We found out that former orange county housewife meghan king. Edmonds king coats doesn't go by edmonds anymore. Megan king edward's king. We're going to call her now on has been diagnosed with covid nineteen. I feel like cova journalists like seriously. I wrote four articles like four sequential articles that i wrote for taste of reality three of which were cova and i was just like. Oh my gosh but this is our life right now anyway. The funny thing. Well there's nothing funny about getting covid. The crazy thing about meghan king edmonds king and jim edmonds her ex and her baby daddy. She has three kids with him. He'd gotten covid in march. After being irresponsible. I kind of feel like this is different and twenty twenty as a fucked up place because here i am. I'm going to nothing to say. Defend jim edmonds be. Give him a little bit of credit here. Making king edmonds king has been going outliving her best damn life. Travelling nonstop always on airplanes recently had a girls weekend just constantly doing things. She's one of those people who with cove is doing her same thing like she's living her same live just putting a mask on. Okay so go figure. She gets covid. Jim edmonds the funny thing is like oh j. Is going to be so pissed off. Because he can't wait to say that she's an unfit mother. The funny thing is is that he had already had cova back in march and within seconds of the news breaking that meghan king edmund king had co vid. He went out saying how she's on fit. And how we put. She put his family their children at risk and He's right sure he had it in march. But i think it's really a big difference like from what we know about covid what we knew in march versus what we know now. I think a lot of people myself included. I definitely did not take this seriously. As i should at the beginning i think it was a lot of just my american privilege like these things. Don't happen to us like this. We've already seen the worst thing we're gonna see in our lifetime which was which was september eleventh. This can't happen. This won't happen. And here we fucking are and we're not going anywhere you guys were not going any damn where sudan meghan king edmund. Tina's cova d- there. You've divided the kids up for now. Who knows. i'm kinda over them. But with how messy this divorces ben. I wouldn't totally object to k. e. k. coming back a to orange county. It's funny that even have that opinion. Because i don't even watch seabed show anymore thanks. Kelly died that was something else that was in the news. This week i noticed kelly dotted gone on saying everybody saying that they boycotted orange county because of me. Our ratings are fine. We have nothing to worry about and just this last week our ratings were huge and it's like bitch bravo put salt lake. City housewives premiere right after your stupid show because you guys are fucking flailing like gasping for air. Come on the woman is just clueless and then she goes ahead. Kelly died goes ahead and puts all these things on her instagram page and then turns off the comments so she put these things out there but she said she's not the one responsible for the ratings being down which they are down which she said. They aren't down but then she doesn't want to hear people which a lot of us have stopped watching because of her well. A transition from kelley dodd eleven fall into all of the other wives of the real housewives franchise. I was given the opportunity to write a roundup of all the real housewives weddings and can i just say it was a labor of love. It was really fun to deep dive into some of these relationships that i haven't watched all the franchises says some of these were brand new. Some of the maya totally forgotten about some of the dynamics like the miami women who had their weddings around the same time forgot about that great franchise by the way anyway if you want to see a comprehensive list of all of the real housewives weddings from the very first one. Which was laurie peterson. And george back in the real housewives of orange county to the most recent one. Which i believe was kelly died only because she and cynthia borrego got married the same day. Ten ten twenty and because cynthia was on the east coast. I think kelly's was later. Because she's west coast. I could be wrong. Let's move on to wednesday's news and this is disturbing a ask scott disick. I written about him right. After halloween he had gotten out of an suv followed by a couple of hot chicks. And then eventually amelia gray hamlin. Who is the celebrity spotting daughter of lisa lips rina from beverly hills housewives. That's so sad that she's known as being a housewife now. Like that's billy reed. She was on days of our lives. She was on melrose place like she's actually been in some really really awesome projects. But she's just the tacky lady from qvc and beverly hills housewives. Now i guess anyway. Her daughter with harry hamlin. Oh my god. I love harry hamlin anyway. Their daughter amelia gray was out canoe rolling with scott disick. It was rumored that they were dating but they had just been seen together. Well we saw this week a very disturbing picture of bikini clad. Amelia gray was scott disick on the beach. They were arm in arm Very close you know. lisa. Renner love this. She kris jenner. Is the momager that lisa on wishes. She would be and you know that even though this is the creepy part scott disick is thirty. Eight year old man. He has three children and emilia. Gray is nineteen years old nineteen do. I think there's something wrong with a twenty year age gap. No not if he's fifty and she's thirty even if she were like in early twenties at least she wouldn't be a fucking teenager. That shit's disgusting and for the people who were like. Well there's nothing illegal about it if that's your moral compass like you and i are not working with the same playing cards because just because it's legal doesn't make it. Okay like ill ill that says something about you and just say the covid nineteen joke that was made online. Like fucking killed me because scott disick only dates nineteen year olds. Apparently there was a joke. Saying hey is co vid. Nineteen and that shit cracked me up. i know so much covid talk. Here's some good cove. News icon. Legendary queen goddess dolly. Parton i talked about dahlie on the grants rants. Podcast just last week. If you haven't listened go check out grants. He is amazing. After we recorded that i learned that dolly parton has pretty much cured cova. Yeah that's what i heard. The news was that back. In april dolly parton made one million dollar contribution towards corona virus research efforts. She said that one of her longtime friends doctor amir the say his name incorrectly and i feel so bad. Najji abroad i think. Dr nausea abu. Murad said that there were some exciting advancements towards the research for a cure for corona virus. Dolly parton slapped a million dollars into the vanderbilt university's hands for the research. And guess what modern is one of the vaccines that are gonna be available. Hopefully sooner than later and has a really really good reputation. So that's amazing giving back just like two of my favorite people from vanderpump rules. Do i care about the show anymore. Not really but am. I still really invested in some of the people including tomonori ana. Yes i am while. I'm very happy to say that. Tom sandoval and arianna. Matic's have teamed up with garden nudity. And the james beard foundation and have really done an amazing thing so the on this day anniversary of the cocktail book that they wrote fancy. A cocktails is coming up on december fifth so garden. Nudity is a online gardening company. It's very like urban gardening like out containers here in las vegas. There's very similar much more fancy than what i've done. There's like the goal. Mine is like amazing because i grow so much with my own fruit and vegetables. It's not as crazy as what they put out. But that's my goal is to have. My garden is boozy as the guard. Nudity gardens. well. They've teamed up to take their cocktail book. Have it partnered with guard nudity. In that you're going to be growing the herbs some of the garnishes fruits veggies whatnot from the cocktail book. You'll be able to grow at your house. No matter how much space you have. If you have a little windowsill a patio. Maybe even a whole yard you do not need to bury it in the ground. It's all in containers so it can be moved. Which is very helpful in vegas with our extreme temperatures. Five dollars of the purchase goes to the james beard foundation where they're helping struggling restaurant workers during these times. And what a cool christmas gift that would be like. I'm really considering doing that for christmas gifts because it's also really good for the environment and we're all at home more like i didn't buy the cocktail book last year for myself because i never drink at home. Guess what a lot changes in a year. I drink at home almost every fucking day now. Hey we have to have something that gets us through the day. Let's move onto thursdays. Neal's this was really disturbing and this is gonna tag right into friday's news and as a podcast as a small podcasters. It kinda sucks like the big. It's like big companies like big corporations coming in and like putting all the little mom and pop shops out of business so there's going to be an official ninety day fiance podcast and it looks like it's hosted by somebody from the tlc universe. I don't know who mike and alexa are will now. All the machines in my room are going to start talking. So the official ninety day fiance's podcast is premiering with the first guest colt johnson and like why colds colt is not anybody's favourite person from the show and the one reason. I'm so curious to hear but from colt is since larisa was fired from ninety day fiance's and they were married. The reason that each one of them is even a name that anybody would know is because of ninety day fiance's now that larussa was fired after the whole cam- soda takeover that she did does that mean. We're over like i thought we could be done with colty but the fact that coltie is the first person on this. Podcast makes me think we're not done with thakin colty Well she and eric. He broke up. She just posted that she and eric have decided to go separate ways and it's very interesting because she just moved to colorado with him so we'll she come back here to vegas. Will she go to la where she probably would do best. Who knows what's next for larussa. We just know it's not ninety day fiance's well speaking of people who are getting podcasts. That are putting the mom and pop shops out of business. Okay we know bethany. Frankel has a podcast. We now hear that ninety day. Fiance's has one. And i just learned that luanne dallas apps the countess from the real housewives of new york is starting a podcast to the news was page six confirmed that the countess is in a relationship with south african trainer. Garth wakeford super hot. You guys super hot. Lou said that they had met on the dating app hinge and they both live in the hamptons and when she saw his pick on the app. She figured he's too good to be true girl. We've all been there. But they met for coffee with their masks on and she thought he was exactly like what he looked like on the app. I'm sure without the mask. Hopefully maybe or people wearing masks masks in dating apps like i can't imagine but also at the same person. Like if i was dating right now i would want to know that. The person that i'm dating is like conscientious and thoughtful of public health and people safety. So i kind of like the guy in the mask. I don't know any way. This guy is tall. He's handsome. He looks like a viking according to luanne apparently he's six foot six. They were spotted leaving a date in a mercedes convertible. Lucky lucky lou. Well that's not all that lou has for us. She's working on a new christmas song and she's trying to get the song finished and get of video put together before the holidays. She added that. There were a lot of people joining her for this production. She's not prepared to tell us who it is. Oh lou such a tease but she definitely did tease the fact that it might be a housewife or two and her podcast drops in twenty twenty one. Great well that does it for this week's on this day. Entertainment news head on over to on his diner. Tamen dot com to read the full articles for being hot tea and more. I'll be right back with this week's install. Jake look back in entertainment history so state soon. Welcome back danny. Pag before i jump into the world of entertainment from yesteryear allow me to remind you of the awesome deal that you can get from curl bible dot com shirt curl bible dot com has got us curly haired girls taken care of but this small black female owned business has way more than just curly girl needs met. 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I mean the understatement of the century there but if you order everything with this discount by december first you'll get fifteen percent off of the order with the code fanny pack and it'll make it to the recipient in time for the holidays so check out on the saner taint dot com any merch in the merch store. Fifteen percent off with the code fanny pack through december first. So thanks. It advanced fanny pack. Let's go ahead and take our weekly walk down memory lane and reminisce on some of the juiciest in most monumental on this day events from this week in pop culture history. What we were watching while not we as in us is way before our time but it's alive it's a live. The nineteen thirty one. Horror film frankenstein was released starring. Boris karloff as the monster. It was based off of mary. Shelley's eighteen eighteen novel frankenstein. Did you know that mary shelley was only nineteen years old when she wrote the novel. I had no. I d app so i was gonna describe this as one of the early horror movies but this was technically not even considered a horror movie because the term horror genre was not even used until nineteen thirty four but because of the disturbing nature frankenstein. I wouldn't be surprised that they were like okay. This genre in itself. Let's go ahead and give it a name so that i didn't know that frankenstein was the first film to ever use that famous castle thunder sound effect. Yeah we see that all the time even in the movie clue it's the first one that popped in my head. You know the movie based on the board game whenever you see the haunted mansion that they're in that they are trapped in the sequence of the film. Anytime you see it from the outside. There's a strike of lightning. And you hear it and that's thanks to frankenstein. That originally did that well. Also before our time but something. That is still very significant. Did you know that. The prices right debuted on nbc and nineteen fifty-six. The format of the show is always been consistent. The show revolves around contestants competing by dino identifying the pricing of merchandise to win cash prizes. The contestants are selected from the studio audience when the announcer states come on down they run they start competing and of course and i think most of his us prices right rules when it comes to like money or guessing with numbers that who's ever closest to the right answer without going over is the correct person and if you over even by like a dollar or whatever small increment is being measured. If you're over you're done and the person who might be farther away but under wins very important stuff of very important stuff. Oh my gosh. I thought this was true. This had been recently debunked but still respect where respect is due in one thousand. Nine hundred sixty eight was one of the first ever. Interracial tv is this time between captain kirk and harare People had celebrated it as the first interracial kiss. Apparently that isn't true. The dugout some ones from before but it was still a very significant one Bringing interracial love to the mainstream so way to go star trek groundbreaking a f- that was actually on the episode of star trek. The original series called. Plato's stepchildren in casey wanted to know. Oh my gosh. I highly recommend if you have disney plus three men and a baby is life. It was really it was released in nineteen eighty seven. And oh my gosh movies so good first of all. I cannot handle how hot. Tom selleck is. Oh gosh that is a man right there. But he was so key. You little baby mary. I love the fact that the ted danson character was an actor. He's the one who actually had the baby It was his child. All along. Steve gutenberg was a cartoonist. Which was super fun and tom. Selleck was an architect so these three different types personality types with the little girl so cute oh and disney plus also has three men and a little lady also which you better believe. I will be watching sooner than later. Shoutout to america's funniest home videos which premiered in one thousand nine hundred nine. Those of you. Who do not know america's funniest home videos basically was youtube before youtube existed. People sent in their home videos and the funniest ones got put on tv animal videos a lot of like cute kid videos. The funniest part is it hosted by. Danny tanner on my gosh. Bob said it was hosted by bob. Sag it the comedian. Who played. danny. Tanner full house. Which yeah family full house was a family show. It was good clean. Fun much like america's funniest home videos but in real life. Bob sagging is a super super dirty comedian with very raunchy jokes. Which absolutely here for in. It's just funny. That he hosted like this. Wholesome comedy clip show very family oriented and was the star. Full house l. o. L. speaking of classic movies released this week in one thousand nine hundred ninety one. The movie migrants came out. I can't every time. I see a b. i think of poor thomas j who lost his glasses. He can't see without his glasses. I am an emotional wreck. Every time i see my girl. I can't do it. But one that i can do all the time. I get emotional. But it's the bodyguard. Fanny pack nineteen ninety-two. The bodyguard was released in theaters. Kevin costner the bodyguard. Whitney houston played. Rachel marron rachel. Marron mir merrin. Rachel marron who was a pop star who had a stalker. And it's freaking phenomenal. If you watch anything the bodyguard soundtrack the drama. Oh and speaking of interracial relationships. I remember that being very taboo back in the early nineties when this came out because the bodyguard and pop star ended up really falling for one another and i just remember it being like a thing that they were like in a relationship when i grew up in louisiana and i grew up in very segregated kind of society where there were very few black people that i came in human contact with until they moved to las vegas. Yeah it's weird very weird. Ooh we have saved by the bell memory. This week from ninety two saved by the bell. Hawaiian style was broadcast on. Nbc and is that was that special was that the one where jesse's dad was getting married to the aerobics instructor. I think it was like kind of feel like that was an episode and not a special. But i don't remember correctly. I might need to go back and revisit that if you know go back and leave that in the fanny pack group on facebook. That would be amazing. His might save me two hours of my life. I can't imagine this by the bell. Hawaiian style special held up all that well. But maybe i will find out. Shout out to nineteen ninety-five toy story. Which was the very first feature. Length film created using completely. Cgi computer generated imagery. It starred. Tom hanks tim allen. And it's one of the most beautiful movies ever. I love that movie and such a classic. Oh while at the same time toy story came out at the same time is the closing arguments from the o. J. trial like. I said i just recently rewatch the people vs simpson and they brilliantly recreated those closing arguments. Oh my gosh watching the time. Line of the closing arguments the recess and when the jury met up and then to how fast they had the case solved it was just it was perfect. Highly recommend going back in nut flakes in watching the people vs. oj simpson is well. Let's talk about what we were listening to you. And all of these songs can be found on the fanny pack spotify playlist. I wanted to talk about i. I am the walrus by the beatles because in nineteen sixty seven. The bbc officially banned it because of the lyrics in it was all nonsense but this is a problematic. Lyric yellow matter custard dripping from a dead dogs eye crab locker fishwives pornographic priestess boy. You've been a naughty girl you'd let your knickers down. So obviously knickers are underwear. They call her a pornographic priestess so that was definitely not suitable for radio. When i say it was banned it was banned from lake mainstream radio. But it wasn't banned from like the album people weren't silencing them or anything it's not like they were cancelled. They just didn't play that one specific song on the radio. So there you go. Apparently there are much worse bills lyrics. But i couldn't really think of any. They gave the examples of you know my name. Look up the number revolution number nine I love revolution number nine. And i can't think of what is inappropriate from not one but o. k. Speaking of the beatles in nineteen sixty eight. They released their only double album. Which is the white album. It is the album where the band broke their recent tradition of incorporating several music styles into each song in the white album each piece of music was consistently faithful to a specific gene. Which was really cool. They were highly into transcendental meditation and smoking weed at the time of this so that is very evident in their songs especially since they had just been doing a ton of hallucinogens. On the sergeant pepper's album very different sounds all amazing. This album has oh my gosh just so many classics on it. You're going to have to check out the spotify playlist. Oh fighting a few years later. George harrison from the jesus is not a beatles. Our i swear. George harrison released my sweet lord as a solo artist in one thousand nine hundred seventy. It ended up being the most covered song written and released by any of the former beatles since the band's break up and speaking of songs. that'll make me cry. I was listening to the playlist and just started street crying in my car. Listening to my sweet lord. It's that good well another song. That is that good. Oh my gosh a little different. I can say this slightly different nineteen eighty-one physical by livia. Newton john this single went to number one and stayed there for ten weeks. Physical had originally been intended for rod stewart. He didn't want it so it was offered to tina turner and she declined at that point. It was given to newton john. She took it with all the suggestive lyrics and it was really good for her. Because it kinda helped change her clean cut image that we had of course from greece and beyond the song was actually banned in some markets. But we do have to talk about the video. The video for physical featured olivia newton. John of course in a tight leotard because the eighties it started off with these overweight guys trying to lose weight. The overweight guys are very comical. She leaves to go take a shower. The guys start working out on their own and all of a sudden they're these late really buff hot dudes and olivia newton. John returns she starts to flirt with them. And they're all super hot and then they start holding hands with one another and not olivia newton john and all of a sudden the hot gay guys leave. She sees one last man who is overweight and wall street and they play tennis together. Can i just say yeah a f- i mean seriously. How many times have we ladies seen really hot guys and of course they're gay they don't want anything to do with us. And then the only available one is like the not so hot one. It's just what it is while the video for physical ended up becoming an award-winning video at won the grammy for video of the year in eighty three. And if you grew up watching pop up video. Like i did. It was featured on pop up video. And was the very first video. Ever to air on beavis and butthead love that also on the spotify playlist. You're gonna find my favorites from the pearl jam. Album vitality from ninety four ninety nine s album. by metallica. the one they did with the san francisco orchestra amazing album. Oh my gosh. It is the twentieth anniversary of back. Street boys black and blue album. I think that one's tied for me. My number one position for favor. Backstreet boy albums. It's millennium and belt black and blue amazing highly recommend it my favorites and when i say favorites it's like i think probably every song off the album but it's on there and twenty year anniversary to the term. Will the song stan by eminem. It's the song that referred to the stalker fan. I was doing a little digging into the song. Stan and how it became common slang but in the song originally stalker fan stan. It's negative. He does some really horrible things because of his standing. But in two thousand eight society decided to switch it up and we started to use the word stan. As a good thing as a fan it became popular mainstream non-threatening in two thousand eight and that's when society kinda change. Artists started to name their fans. That's when beyond say created. The beehive developed her army the believers of course jason justin bieber fans. So that's how those things came along is because of the song. Stan which i absolutely love. Let's talk about what was happening in celebrity. News in eighty-seven demi moore. Got married to bruce willis little white chapel in las vegas fun fact. That's where i got married georgiana. I and britney spears and jason alexander along with demi and bruce all got married at the same cheesy little white chapel in las vegas sadly in ninety one. We lost a huge contributor modern music. I mean if you love lady gaga. It's because of freddie mercury. She's obsessed with the band queen. Sadly and i mean this was early nineties. We didn't talk about aids then we did now. But freddie mercury at the age of forty five confirmed he had aids and sadly died the next day such a loss. Oh my gosh. And this is right after in ninety-seven another huge loss. Michael hutchins was the singer from the band in excess. They say he committed suicide. It's not that cut and dry. From what i understand. He had passed at the ritz carlton in double bay. Outside of sydney. It was never accepted. That hutchins had committed suicide. It had been said that he had died of auto erotic asphyxiation silk. He'll strangled himself while jacking off against his former partner had detailed to the detectives who were saying it was suicide. She just was not having that she started to detail. Some of their sexual preferences in that he would strangle her during sex She was convinced. That michael hutchings did not take his own life and she really wanted her child to believe that his death was accidental. And not suicide. Which i mean. We don't just how crazy is that. She doesn't want her kids to know that her dad potentially committed suicide but otherwise she's like okay. There were tons of drugs. Were tons of alcohol this that and the other in the room. He was just pledging himself and he accidentally killed himself. Like i don't know if either of those would be comfortable to tell a child. I just can't see that one would be better than the other. But i don't know i don't know i don't have kids. I'm not ready for that stuff. I'm not ready for that level of responsibility. I'm having an anxiety attack okay Let's go back to another relationship. That didn't work out much. Like to me bruce. Well and brittany and jason alexander allow it. Looks like me and georgia. The only one still married that hotel anyway. Nicholas cage filed for divorce from lisa marie presley in two thousand two due to irreconcilable differences after a whopping three months of marriage. Well after say this. Next marriage didn't work but it definitely lasted more than three months Do you remember when carmen electra. Married dave navarro. They got married at the saint regis in la and they were so hot back in the time early. Two thousands like they were goals. This was a weird two thousand relationship. That i didn't get. I will never understand what pamela anderson was thinking. She had married kid rock. And oh wow. After four months they decided to call it quits. So pam anderson of course from baywatch divorced kid rock. After four months. They made it a whole month longer than nicolas cage and lisa marie presley another divorce. Two thousand eleven ashlee simpson divorced. Fall out boy bassist. Paul winds after two and a half years of marriage. I know they at least have one kid together. Oh no i talk about cancel culture and how. It's not really a thing. Can i just remind you that in two thousand thirteen alec baldwin how to show called up late with alec baldwin and it was cancelled after only five episodes because he had gotten in some weird street tirade. It was captured on video. That shit was canceled. Put out baldwin now like. He's a star of saturday. Night live and that's bigger show up late with alec baldwin is so he's doing just fine to remember when he called his kid. A pig was so funny. I mean it's not funny but it kinda is oh. This was a tough week. Oh my gosh. i can't believe. I'm just putting this together now. Another divorce in two thousand thirteen ashton kutcher and me more divorced due to irreconcilable differences after eight years of marriage. This is not a good week for demi moore in marriages. Well a couple. That i love that are still together. So good looking. Oh my gosh. So fear. For gara and joe manganiello. How you say his name. I don't know. I just call them all seed because my god true blood. He was my favourite on true blood. They got married in palm beach. Florida in two thousand fifteen so happy five year anniversary to them a three year engagement announcement from britain's prince harry and meghan markle say britain's anymore because in the last three years they've announced their engagement gotten married how to child and left the royal family. I me lake. Do you remember that was twenty twenty news before corona virus. We were like just up at heels with medicine and harry leaving england. Like i think it's cool but lots changed in the last few months. Let's finish off with taylor swift. I have to give my girl. Shout out because in two thousand nineteen. She won six awards at the american music. Awards including artist of the year and the decade. I have to confess. My husband came home the other day. And i was in the living room crying listening to altea well by taylor swift. And if you don't cry while you listen to all too well by taylor swift. Do you have a soul. Well that doesn't for this week's nostalgic look back in entertainment history for this week's birthdays wishing a happy birthday to goldie hawn who i can't believe. Turn seventy freaking five. This year goals goals goals. One of my favorite nerds from revenge of the nerds curtis strong. Who of course played booker. Dauphin dot call me vulgar vulgar excuse praise but what do they call you google. He's sixty seven this year. Bill nye the science guy is sixty five. Scream queen jamie. Lee curtis turned sixty two living her best life nicolette. Sheridan of course from desperate housewives turns fifty seven as does real-life housewife sonja. Morgan from new york turns fifty-seven. Yes these sonja. Morgan who can be found in the blue book. Speaking of housewives with birthdays real housewives of miami's adriana demoura turns fifty five years old recently I told you guys about the real housewives wedding. Roundup i did. She's featured on that so make sure you look. That went up. Be york turns fifty five this year. Mark ruffalo who. I guess is known for being in the avengers. I know him from thirteen going on thirty. He was born in sixty seven making him turn fifty three this year so happy birthday. Oh wow christina. Applegate is forty nine this year next year. She's going to be hitting the big five. Oh very nice katherine heigl. Such a likable person. Except if you actually know. Her turns forty two. Oh my gosh queen shangila from rupaul's drag race one of my all time favorite queens. She's from paris texas. She turns thirty nine this year. Happy birthday queen shangila decision. All i think former south southern term star. I don't think she's on anymore. Cameron eubanks anyway. She turns thirty seven this year. Scarlett johansson happy birthday. She turns thirty. Six carly rae. Jepsen is thirty. Five one of my favorites. Miss miley cyrus was born in nashville. Twenty eight years ago. happy birthday to miley. And the time of week where i feel old ask is saying happy birthday to a twenty four year old hailey baldwin. She is justin bieber's wife and the daughter of which baldwin is. It alec is it. I don't remember stephen. Gosh i've been to brush up on my baldwin's anyway. Thank you so much for tuning into on this day. Entertainment the podcast for all your tv and pop culture news nostalgia from today and yesterday if you wanna stay in the know. Subscribe to on this day entertainment. Wherever you get your podcasts. Remember to follow on this day. Entertainment on instagram twitter and facebook. While you're there. Join the fanny. Pack facebook group. Which is where we keep all these conversations going and more. My articles are always available to deep dive on this day. 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A Story of Joy: Jesse Wente

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A Story of Joy: Jesse Wente

"The theaters have closed. But the show look on play me. Podcast is thrilled to present a new series. The show must go on featuring provocative productions from some of north. America's most acclaimed creators for the stage. Sit back and experience. Everything from chilling thrillers to gut wrenching dramas to a river in comedies each month experience the exhilaration of theater from the comfort of your own home. Plenty available wherever you get your podcasts. This is a cbc podcast. It's important for me to make sure that the story is framed. Enjoy even if it contains pain hurt because that's how i ultimately see it as joyous. I'm now i add welcome to ids. My name is jesse. Wendy amish now bay from toronto my family comes from a super nation which is on the north shore of lake huron in ontario and from other small place called chicago. Jesse wendy is a writer. Broadcaster and chairperson of the canada council for the arts. The trauma the pain. All of that is very real. It's in our bones. We all live with it and yet we also all live with that joy in november. Twenty twenty jesse went. He delivered a talk for vancouver island university. And it's indigenous speaker series presented by the in partnership with cbc ideas in his lecture and in a later conversation i had with him. He explores the current state of canada's truth and reconciliation process and the role. That joy can play in moving forward. His talk is called a story of joy reducing the harm so we can heal and so. I'm very happy to be here. And i do want to tell you a story of joy. I do have to admit though as we start we will encounter some other emotions along the way a host of them really. But i need to start by telling you that this is a story of joy and i start there because too often when first nations may t- or in new it are asked to tell stories. We're asked to tell sad stories stories of pain and trauma. Maybe our joy is is threatening. Maybe if we find joy you know given how much our pain has seemingly valued and desired. We're proving that there's a way out that we're not beholden. We're not defined by anyone other than ourselves that we're sovereign whatever the reason it's important for me to make sure that the story is framed. Enjoy even if it contains pain and hurt. Because that's how i ultimately see it as joyous and i hope you'll see it that way to in the lecture you say you want to tell a story. That's that's framed. Enjoy because there's been an absence of joyous stories about indigenous people for as long as well remember. How do you think this. Joyce framing or reframing would change things well i guess i guess i just thought it would help people understand that that there's pathways to join that. Within sort of achieving joy or moments of joy comes a lot of other things that occur right and that and that even when you are have also to hardships or traumas there you can still experience joy it. It's just not that public you don't one of them. One of my favorite sounds in the world is when our aunties laugh. Which is something that's that is like embedded in me from. When i was like a baby just hearing my my aunties laugh like those people that women of my family just laugh like that playing cards. Or whatever. And i've been fortunate enough to travel the world and and visit with a lot of indigenous aunties and they all laugh. I remember being on a bus in peru for this was to speaking in front of this. The un standing committee on indigenous peoples and we were going to a sacred site for a ceremony and it was all these anti from all over the world all these incredible indigenous women from all those and me which so privileged to be there and and now the bus was just filled the entire ride with laughter and joy and even though we were there to talk about very pressing issues on this bus ride to have the ceremony nothing but joy and laughter. This is like what does that soundly. I don't know 'cause uncles laugh may be differently. I don't know it sounds like home. It sounds like comfort. Sounds like a hug if that makes sense and but i realized oh that like you know. I'm on that bus. And i was in those rooms but when i about what canadian see or what the outside world sees of our communities. Maybe they don't actually have ever seen that bus or have ever seen been in that room with the antes playing cards and what that sounds like and to know that the story they've seen. Yes the trauma the pain all of that is very real in our bones. It's we live with it and yet we also all live with that joy. And i also think knowledge that maybe on some level when indigenous people black people experience joy it it separates us it allows us in a way to be ourselves in those moments. Can i go back to one of those moments are just a quick second when you playing cards with the on on the bus who who wins i remember. I played my grandmother. My grandmother was an extraordinary card player. Cribbage in euchre particularly and euchre is near blood sport in in my family. It was an incredible life lesson to be honest because she did not. She never took the idea that will let the kids when she was like no. You're going to play cards with me. I will show you how you play cards. And you're going to spend twenty years losing every single game to me until that one time. I finally beat her at crib and talk about joy. I had tremendous joy that day. But how would you beat them. They've been playing so long. I don't i've done my best. I times i was. I have been a good card player. I would never attempt to ascribe those lofty standards to myself. I had we had task. I want to begin with the fresh prince of bel-air. Yes i mean exactly the fresh prince of bel-air. You're all thinking about right now. The ninety s sitcom which just recently celebrated its thirtieth anniversary with a television special as their want to do. I was a teenager when the fresh prince was originally on the air and it was one of only a few black shows on tv at all at the time so i was somewhat eager to tune into the reunion and it was very well done and mostly exactly what you sort of expect from these sorts of things. I have seen my fair share of reunion specials. But there was something about this one. That left me tearful really throughout. And i mean that is a natural reaction to nostalgia of course and it may also frankly be a natural reaction to this moment in time. We're all living through. 'cause i don't know about you but i find my emotions particularly raw these days like right at the surface so it only takes a scratch actually hit a nerve but what really struck me about this reunion. Special was one segment in particular. Where will smith the fresh prince met with. janet hubert. The actress who was originally cast as an vivian on the show but she left the show of somewhat early in. Its run and smith you shoe. He was pretty harsh to her in the media with her at the time and since and she was never really cast in anything major after she left that show she was labeled the difficult by a rising young star. They had not spoken in almost thirty years when they met for the reunion. Hubert explained what was happening with her at the time of the show and how what smith had done had her how it took her career fromer and how his words had particular hurt because she is a dark skinned black woman and he is a light skinned young man on the way up smith admitted to behaving poorly and he did apologize although after she did and they hugged before she briefly met with the rest of the cast. It was very much a made for tv moment in so many ways. But unlike one i'd ever seen. And while i was certainly happy that janet hubert got her apology. It's also true that it only came after thirty years and after she had so much had been taken from her in that ensuing time. There remains an imbalance between the parties. Where one side has taken nearly everything from the other and it was clear that as much as had been resolved in that moment there remained a lot of work left to do between them as they left smith referred to the meeting as a reconciliation and it was in all the messy and totally not satisfying ways. That reconciliations are the obvious power. Disparity was still there. The hurt was still there. Hurt for what was lost in the years in between when reconciliation seemed so very far away if even possible at all but the key moment was when smith listened heard and accepted the hurt he had caused and owned that he had caused. It will have to see what he does now because of course the true value of his gesture of doing all of this will be revealed by his actions and not his words but it is a start so sitting here tonight in two thousand twenty. My sense is that in the process of reconciliation between canada and first nations may t- an annuity. We're sorta stuck at that point. The truth has been told more than once in fact for generations at this point most recently the truth was captured in the final report from the national inquiry into murder to missing indigenous women and girls before that it was contained within the truth and reconciliation commission's final report. Before that you could find it inside the royal commission on aboriginal people and throughout you could find it directly from the source if you ever asked and i see this failure to accept the truth in the denials that we now hear around things like systemic racism denials that fly in the face of not only lived experience of indigenous people but numerous studies and the stark raw data. I mean you can't look at the prison system in this country or the child welfare system or the rates of suicide and poverty and not have some understanding that there is something deeply wrong occurring. Something deeply unequal. I mean if you showed these stats to a child they would understand. Children are like divining rods for inequality you know this. If you've ever actually sliced birthday cake in front of them. I mean they immediately know who got the bigger piece or who got the peace with the most frosting or the fancy frosted flower on it. I mean they will tell you in that moment for adults to not recognize. These truths is willful and ultimately harmful half name these things if you wish to address them and as long as some in power refused to name systemic racism they are refusing to combat it and by refusing to combat it. They allow it to continue and they do so on your behalf. They do so on your behalf. Can you explain who they are. And on whose behalf. they're acting. Oh well i think any elected official or anyone who is in that sort of public service arrangement who is grappling with the near existence. Systemic racism let alone its naming and who also seemed to can seem to not understand what it actually means even though if you actually just looked at the performance of their institutions they would actually just see it pretty plainly in the statistics and regardless there's been recent reports immediately say something like the rcmp. Whose leader this year denied the existence of systemic racism. I mean there was just a report recently. That said quite the opposite. So i think whenever you have that were premieres or leaders or whoever people in positions of power especially those that are meant to be in public service who actually impact with their decision making the lives of many communities. I think when they deny those things and when we're unable to name those things that's difficult and i would also say when people in the media are also unable to name those things when they are uncomfortable naming those things maybe because they feel that will complicity themselves because those institutions have so much control or power over how the national story gets built. And i do think that we can start the work of undoing that stuff if we name these things if we if we properly name and not be afraid of what naming those things or even identifying that say a system like capitalism is harmful like if we're not unable to even just confront that truth that the and again i'm not sure what evidence would point to to counter that i guess advancement or these sorts of things but if it comes at what cost for not willing to do those sorts of a equations then i think it will be ultimately really difficult. You say that we're now stuck at a point where the truth has been told but were not really progressing into the act of reconciliation. What is the effect of of On the process of reconciliation the longer the distance between us and the truths that have been told repeatedly over and over and over again. I think it increasingly encumbers your ability to reconcile you know if we just consider the specifics of say residential schools right which was the sort of original specific mandate of the r. c. You know even though the last school closed in nineteen ninety-six over time we will be left with. No one who attended like physically attended them. That's not to say we know we understand that those traumas are passed down to descendants and through the people they come in contact with so it's not that those traumas are raced when those people ceased to be with us. It's just that think about how. How do you make amends when the when the people initially harmed are no. It's very very difficult to figure out how you're going to make those men. So i think and it also becomes difficult because again for the folks that were a part of having that system exist they also get distanced from it and so it becomes their ancestors that wrestle with how to do this and frankly that's all already going to be the position we're in you know like these. A lot of these issues will not be resolved in our generation. We hope they will be resolved in future generations. But i always think that it's we burdened. Our future generations an awful lot already. So wouldn't it be nice if we especially around issues that we have been aware of for a really long time. Why not actually just get around to doing them. And i think more importantly actually dressing them is inevitable. The longer you delay you were just making sure to continue harms. That you've been doing already and you might as well get to work addressing them if you actually want to get out of that cycle. There's no other way i have. I have two kids a boy and a girl both teenagers so right there you know what my days are like but my kids have ultimately taught me much more than i will ever ever be able to teach them and i still learn from them every day. And i understand that. I'll i'll you know as a parent every parent gets this. We're going to worry about them on some level for the rest of our lives. I worry not so much about what they will do. As what they will face that is not of their creation. And i think most people can understand that. Because we've all faced those things you know. I remember when i was a little kid a little younger than than my kids are now and the other kids would war whoop during baseball games on the playground. They'd call me names. Which i won't repeat here and all because i was different from them or the attention. My long hair used to get back when i had long hair. It used to get all this attention from police for just walking down the streets in toronto at night. I don't want those things for my kids or yours. So i try my best to both. Prepare them for that reality and work to change that reality and we can all do this even if we shouldn't have to do it and yet right now. Decisions are being made that will mean our children will face inequality racism sexism and the outcomes related to those issues. And it's our job to try and alleviate those issues and avoid the generational harm so let's face the truth that has already been told accept it own it and change behaviors to avoid replicating the harms. That have already been caused. And i guess ultimately what is that fundamental truth that we need to reconcile. I think it it. It all comes down to sovereignty. Canada wants to assert and attain. Its own sovereignty. While indigenous peoples never lost theirs and want that fact recognized by canada. That impasse is at the core of all the issues. We are seeing between our communities whether it's ongoing conflicts and nova scotia caledonia. What sutin control of things like child and family services education and the justice system at the root is that first nations. Want a say all of these things. As sovereign people do and canada wants to control them as it views itself as the sovereign power to be obeyed and we really need to break the cycle if reconciliation truly has any chance of occurring. Can you point to any example. In present day. Canada or in history or elsewhere in the world where the cycle of a government and relationship to the indigenous people has been stopped and a solvent actually attained. I mean. I'm not sure. I can point to where we see. Complete sovereignty attained You know. I think we see in. Sami land they have their own sort of parliament that exists alongside the colonial parliament. We know in places like venezuela they have systems to make sure that there's indigenous representation within the that gets mandated that there has to be indigenous representation within government and there's the communities get together to vote on what that indigenous representation is. I mean i think there's all sorts of models of measures of getting to that sort of system that we don't have here like you we. We don't do that here yet. So colonial states have never really grasped that. It's in their best interest to do this. So now i think you know. Here's the thing right is like there is no instruction manual about how you unpack centuries of colonialism on these lands like it is. There's just no map for that but we can't deny that there isn't some path there that we haven't been given some way points on how to find our way through this and i'm optimistic that actually we've seen so many people change we've seen so many people come together. We know what needs to be done. Now it's really time for us to encourage people to act in an atmosphere when most people have really embraced the need to change as a way to survive and as a way to endure earlier. You said that you're worried for your own children. Not about what. They'll actually do themselves but the things in the world that that that they might face the kinds of things you have faced but but you say that you also learn from them. So i'm wondering if we could in the spirit of joy you started with. What lessons have they taught you in something that brings a spot to your face. Oh my goodness. I mean the greatest teachers. I've ever teach humility every single moment of every single day. And i think i think kids teach most parents that lesson pretty quick because you think adults you know. I made breakfast this morning. I'm sort of in control of the world. And here's this little person to say you really not in control of much and i think that's very humbling. They teach you how to live together how to love how to open space for all sorts of things they remind you that it's okay to fall and get up laughing that it's okay to spill. You were so worried about hs. I bought this couch. And it's so nice and and so worried that i'm going to spill something on your going to barf on that thing and like seconds and you're immediately going to go. Wow this couches. So not what i care about so care about this other thing and i think it just reorients you. All they did was. Make me want to fight harder for everything. I was fighting for before into to be my best and to acknowledge when i'm not and to tell them. This is going to be difficult but we are here as a family we are. Here's a community. We will love each other. Get through this. We will care for each other. None of this is the end of anything. And yeah so they inform how i go about my life every moment. I think you're listening to ideas on. Cbc radio one. In canada. Across north america on sirius. Xm in australia on abc radio national and around the world at cbc dot ca. slash ideas. i. Na i add from. Cbc podcasts and the fifth estate brainwashed is a part investigation into the cia experiments in mind control from the cold war and m. k. Ultra to the so-called war on terror. We learn about a psychiatrist who used his patients as human guinea pigs. And what happens when the military and medicine collide. Listen to brainwashed on the cbc. Listen app or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm speaking to you at a moment of grave. Crisis i'm jeff turner and this is recall. It's a series about history not the ancient past but history. That still hot to the touch. In this first season i explore a revolutionary political movement that brought a modern democracy to the brink. You can find recall how to start a revolution on the cbc. Listen app or wherever you get. Your podcasts jesse. Wendy delivered the twenty twenty lecture for vancouver island university's indigenous speakers series in partnership with. Cbc ideas. his talk is entitled a story of joy reducing the harm so we can heal in it. He looks at the state of reconciliation in canada today. And why changing how we think about these issues can lead to greater understanding. So i'd like to actually ask you to consider the framing of how we look at so many things we often about the cost of things indigenous. People have been hearing about this. I mean for pretty much all of canada about how addressing some of the issues. We face is simply too costly. But i wonder if we're actually calculating that cost correctly so me share a personal story late. Last summer we were visiting family in the community. Where much family comes from kin by cutler ontario serpent river. Now i didn't grow up there. But i still have family there and i love it. They're even if it's a complicated love that i'm still working out. We were there to pay respects to my great aunt who had recently passed away and to enjoy the annual pow and visit with family. We hadn't seen in a while and we ate and we laughed and we cried and we swam in the lake and we got lost in the woods. I mean all of the good things and on the way back my daughter from the backseat of the car. She asked me why we couldn't just stay where we were and it struck me in that moment her asking this question. It reminded me of the fact that i'd asked similar questions to my parents when i was a kid. And there was a part of me that wanted to say yes that we could and there was also the part of me that knew the answer was no at least not right now because of work in school and all the reasons i could and would give her but that none were ever feel could totally convincing to a thirteen year old and i must admit i also cried a bit while driving because i could remember asking my parents the same thing when i was a little younger than she was and getting the exact same answers i just given to her given to me but those tears weren't actually of sadness or loss. They were tears of joy. Because i guess in that moment in the way that maybe only kids can really reveal to adults. I understood something more clearly than i really ever before. Even though i've known it for years there was a clarity in that moment that has stuck with me and what was revealed to me was how much a colossal waste of time and resources so much of what has happened to first nations. Mateen in you. It in the history of canada has truly been. I thought about how much effort was put into separating my family from this place not just the harm done to us the cost of that but the actual cost in money and effort and time and resources and to gain what in the end one maybe two generations if even that with my family of being separated from where we came from so you could hurt mine or your aunties and grandmothers and uncles grabs some land. That isn't really yours. And he can't even keep anyway. Multiply this waste by all the families that have similar stories and the ones that will have them in the future because this is all still happening kids being taken away. Police arresting people for asserting their inherent rights communities going without water to drink or adequate housing when they never had those issues before canada and again for what it costs money to keep people in poverty. And that's what we're doing here. Keeping people in poverty and for indigenous communities this has been true for decades and decades poverty on the land our ancestors village on for thousands of years poverty where there was none. Canada spends millions every year to deny equality to indigenous people. In one small example the state has spent millions to avoid complying with the canadian. Human rights tribunal decision from twenty sixteen that found canada discriminates against indigenous children by underfunding the on reserve child welfare system. That means we're spending millions of tax dollars to avoid treating indigenous children equally. I'll give you another example. We often hear of the vast cost to supply. Indigenous communities with drinking water as cost was the actual barrier to getting this done. But what's rarely discussed is the cost of leaving people without drinking water there. The cost of having to have them relocate of the temporary fixes that ultimately fail the risk of potential litigation that hands-on hangs over everything and that doesn't even measure the loss of contributions people could be making to their communities. If they weren't worried about what the water they're drinking night might do to them. You talk about the need to think about costs differently. The costs to society the cost to canadians to cost to everybody Not the upfront costs of sort of supplying communities with drinking water as you say but rather the cost of not doing something of keeping people in poverty and in the situation that they're in what would indigenous communities look like if costs were refrained in this way What a great question. I don't know my my dream. Is that our communities. Can dream for themselves and envision what it would be as they did for so many generations. And i've always thought of myself as someone who doesn't really want to dictate what that would look like or prescribed that i may have my own ideas but they're my own ideas. I really just want the nation's as a community to think that in certainly one thing i would love to see non scarcity like abundance like there was that and because this is a place of abundance end. It's just not really managed. If i can use a weird word that in as if it is it's managed as if it's as if things are scarce and so we. Yeah i guess i would. I would imagine abundance. Like i would imagine really rich places. I don't mean that monetarily. But i do mean that monetarily. All ways and yeah. That's sort of what i would imagine. But i wouldn't want to prescribe what that looks like and curious about the word abundance because as you say it's not just about money so i'm curious how would you if it isn't just about money. What would redrawing. The economic relationship between indigenous communities in canada actually entail. Well i mean that's probably too complex question for me to fully wrap my head around. I think a lot is the simple answer. I mean more frame it as a sharing. Because i think that's the idea or was the intent of a lot of the original sort of relationships was one of schering what i think it should be allowed or why i think it's important is because then it allows our communities to do with it. What they what they see is the most important things right and because we already have abundance in our communities of many things right. It's just that For all sorts of reasons both historic and contemporary the things we we have sort of been lacking of our things sorta needed for basic survival. So if we can have sort of stabilized of those. I think that would allow the abundance of so much other stuff to flourish right and because again as i often say coming from the creative sector in the community it's never been a lack of talent ever ever ever ever ever. It's always been a lack of opportunity. Canada's not alone in this fundamental reality nor in its inability or lack of desire to address it we see the exact same dynamic occurring across the former colonies increasing economic disparity declining democracies and rising populism underpinned by the same white supremacy. That has always lived in these states but while we may address some of the symptoms we have rarely ever addressed the underlying issues of sovereignty. This despite the fact that our inherent rights to the land that canada now occupies have been upheld by canada's own courts and international courts. As well until we're actually able to get to this and talk about it and frankly negotiate a new arrangement reconciliation. At least on the large scale is going to remain elusive because colonialism didn't end at some point in the past it's happening right now and until colonialism is just stopped reconciliation. We'll be out of reach as arthur manual and grand chief arnold derek. Right in their essential book. The reconciliation manifesto recovering the land and rebuilding the economy. Canada must understand that only through the recognition of aboriginal title and rights. Will we be able to move together toward a better and more prosperous canada. It's the piece that has always been missing and will always be missing until we confront it and now with fear but with the knowledge that it's the path to realize the promise of this relationship. We aren't there yet. Or i mean maybe if i was to be more specific canada. Isn't there yet. But i find many canadians are there. They want to form a new relationship. One that our future relations can be proud of. So what do we do in the meantime. Well i think for many first nations mateen wit. It's a time of healing. That's what we need to do. The truth has been out there for years but it cuts us every time we need to retell it and it's an old wound reopened our communities need to heal from wounds both historic and contemporary and. We need canadians to both help. Us heal and stop the harm as lee miracle writes in her brilliant mike conversations with canadians the question. What can i do to help implies that we are responsible for achieving some monumental task we are not up to it infers that we had some hand in how things turned out for us. Racism and colonialism and patriarchy are canadian social formations knock indigenous ones. We are not the only ones responsible for their undoing. If you participate in dismantling the master's house and ending all forms of oppression. You are helping yourself. The sooner canadians realize that the better earlier. You said that canada may not be ready for reconciliation and a new relationship. Actually that many canadians are ready for that. What what's the distinction there exactly I mean the distinction is between the people in the state which is hardly seems to be. Sometimes they fraught distinction. But it really shouldn't be like there's the people and then there's the state and i think too often. The people are are when people criticize. The state are too quick to think that as a criticism of them when we're actually criticizing the state now. Yes they do have a role in upholding that apparatus. And maybe that's where the key is but the reality is our elected. Officials have not always acted the way we may think we've they should or in the way we thought they would when we elected them. And that creates this really. I think is really troubling. Disconnect that we've seen in a lot of these dip democracies where there's such distrust in such a lack of faith in actual systems of these democracies that you begin to get sort of apathy toward the political process because the people see it as failing them regardless of party over and over and over and over again. We've seen it even in this crisis. I would suggest and i think this is an issue. Not just have the right or the left. It's it's a systemic issue of the whole thing and that disconnect creates a vacuum where canadians or the population may have the will to see things. Happen that the government just doesn't occur like we know all sorts of issues so i think i think it's incumbent for us to understand the difference between the state and people and for people to understand that they are actually. They have enormous agency. And if we increase get to a point where the state won't represent people have who have voted for it. Then we have to demand fundamentally different systems or different styles of representation and it's also my lived experience now as has been privileged to travel all across this land and speak with a lot of canadians. That's what they say like canadians themselves. Say yeah we're really unhappy about this. We don't like this. What can we do right. And that's the that's where that vacuum suddenly exists right. And and i think that the what do you tell to say. What can we do. I mean they they need to. I mean they still need to vote. I know that's hard and it is not a solution especially when leaders. Say they'll do something and then they don't but i think there's also other methods they have to participate in and activate their agency and other ways that exists outside of those systems. Because we have the voice of the people has to be heard and we have to understand that those in power they get to a point where they have to choose how they react to that voice and it's either you know totalitarianism where they decide. No we're not gonna listen. It's us or or they succumb to that voice. Canadians should ask what is gained. When their governments violently confront our certian of our rights these conflicts are decades old in nova scotia. Callan -tario in wetsuit and british columbia. These nations are going anywhere. These tactics only ensure more confrontations in the future. The only entrench our need to push back. The benefit of reducing harm to indigenous and black people is that it will invariably lead to harm reduction for everyone. This is also true of anti-poverty measures education health. Virtually every aspect of our shared existence would be improved if instead of investing in harm. We invested in healing. I mean just imagine what our communities could achieve if their basic survival wasn't a daily struggle. What could canada achieve if it wasn't so determined to make it a struggle. Canadians really need to ask themselves and their governments. If the amount they are investing in keeping us poor unhealthy is worth it. Honestly at this point what is the worst that could happen. We already have been around a lot of the worst that can happen. Why would we keep lingering there. Let's try something different. Let's invest in systems and processes. That are not the ones we've already spent so much on and if only yielded the need to reconcile not reconciliation itself and the process. I'm talking about has been described many times from the pen report in the early nineteen eighties to the royal commission on aboriginal people in the nineties two more recently the trc and again the final report on murdered and missing indigenous women and girls all of these point to similar problems and similar solutions. Canada has in fact invested in getting these answers is just never bothered to invest in actually making them real perhaps they seem to radical for canada. Or maybe more accurately to threatening because we've ultimately seen canada oppose similar proposals to what we're talking about internationally. Most recently in bolivia where in two thousand nineteen supported the ousting of evil morales the first indigenous president of that country only to see his party win the recent election decisively and morales return from exile as described by arthur manual and grand chief derricks in their book. Morales is working towards what he calls the refounding of his country as a pluri-national state a collection of indigenous and non indigenous peoples that functions with respect for one another and for mother earth. This is the canada our ancestors envisioned. Not the one. We're living in today but we can still get there. We have a bunch of evidence that we're getting there. I've seen for myself. The increase in numbers when we march or protest the spring of twenty twenty saw extraordinary solidarity between communities black and indigenous in response to state violence mascots and logos that of colonial capitalism long thought entrenched. Were suddenly gone. The lack of a representative media is suddenly a pressing concern and issues like defunding. The police and land back have moved into the mainstream. And it's important to acknowledge much of this work has been done by women and two spirit queer and trans people. This sort of solidarity is healing. This reckoning that we're seeing will require a broad rethinking and reimagining of what our mutual success looks like but key to that is that it is mutual. we simply can't afford to allow inequality to fester it simply too expensive. The cost is far too high. So stop the things causing harm and invest in those that reduce harm or contribute to healing because our communities our families ourselves. They are all healing right now. You can see the evidence everywhere if the evidence for healing is everywhere as you say where do you see it most clearly. Oh in in in the kids. In the youth i see such tremendous power in them and maybe my ancestors saw that power in me. I don't i don't know. I hope i hope fulfilling their dreams but i do see just tremendous power and drive and and a real grasping of where they are. You know in in this moment on this land in this world like yeah that they do have sort of an agency inability to move these things. I see that healing. They're healing when i see solidarity movements between communities that is uh feeling each other of us finding common cause of us that we are together in all of this we may come at it from different positions but we arrived at the same place. I see it in whenever. I hear the language which you know. Unfortunately i still don't speak. But whenever i hear it it touches me is lets me know. I don't know that we're still here that it's still possible that it that it's not always lost right which is healing I see it everywhere. And i see frankly. I also see some of it. In canada at least in canadians is as again to be more correct icy some of in canadians. Those who've been able to hear the truth and accepted and understand what needs to be done. That's also very healing and the ultimate healing is actually in realizing the potential of all of those peoples. If we were free of this harm like imagine the healing. That would actually had happened. Then if there's anything that really gives me hope is that i've seen people heal that. I've seen it happen. That i've seen the progress i've seen it in my family. I've seen it in myself. I've seen it in the community. I've seen it at other commute. i've seen it. I've been around long enough now to know that even just imagining when i entered the cbc building for the first time in nineteen ninety six and the number of indigenous people that were there then versus when i would enter it in the future and how many people might be there then i can touch. I can talk. I can call it on the phone. I can zoom with it and i can see the healing so if our institutions again invested in that. Mind that to use a very ugly metaphor if we were to really embrace that hugged close with anti laughter. We would you know. I think we could potentially achieve a lot. Humanity is an extraordinary creature and if we are able to humble ourselves to are the fact that we are creature in part of nature and that that's how we live. We still might be able to do truly great if i may If you look within yourself where do you see most the healing within yourself. I guess i see it in. I guess i see it. In the way i have approached life however learned along the way however i've adapted how i try to center the wellbeing of others. Maybe more than myself seed in the way. I'm raising my kids. A seat in the way i interact with my family and community now so a lot of ways but it can sometimes be hard when the scars are on the surface because the healing sometimes it's beneath and the scar remains but the scar is ultimately sign of healing. So we need to love our scars. Tessie thank you. Thank you so much so remember that day in the car with my daughter there was joy not sadness even if the revelations seems sad it's actually joyous because of the family were in a far different place than when we were when i used to ask those questions of my parents at her age. I mean so much has changed where healing were rising in the past few years. We've seen just an eruption of indigenous talent thanks to only the smallest investment from the traditional creative sector writers musicians filmmakers visual artist dancers fashion designers actors and on and on and on there already changing the country and stories we can see the next generation of land and water protectors empowered nachos by what they have learned but what they are teaching us as they continued the tradition of resistance against our extinction. All of this brings me tremendous joy even as i get frustrated by the slow pace of change. But i can't say i haven't witnessed it and more importantly to what the change we've already seen the change that is yet to come because much of the change we've seen in the arts. Landscape has come as indigenous. People have begun to take more leadership positions as we've seen measures of self-determination begin to be introduced into the traditional cultural institutions and systems in canada as power even just small amounts of it has been shared or seated and the success of this approach. We can see all around us a success in an awakening that doesn't just benefit indigenous peoples but all canadians artists and storytellers are gateways to envisioning the future. Even when their subject is the past. We're seeing what investing in that visiting has already yielded. I think we should take the same approach to so many things not just arts and culture and actually invest in our sovereignty because that is the pathway to canada's this way we can reduce the harm while we work on building a relationship. Our future relations can truly be proud of. Let's invest in our mutual success. Let's embrace the changes that covid has thrust upon us and also make clear. These changes are necessary. There's no going back to a status quo. that doesn't exist anymore anyway. The only path is the one forward. So let's not fear doing things differently but embrace the fact that we've proven that we can do things differently just in the past few months we've changed so much of our lives adjusting to this tragedy. Imagine what it would be to adjust our lives to healing and dejoy. We've created healing enjoy out of tragedy already. That's the future stopping the harm. Reducing its impact and investing in healing. So that joy won't be so elusive for so many so our joy can coexist with yours so our stories. Kitty dance together. Which mitch chima glitch for listening. You're listening to a story of joy reducing the harm so we can heal with jesse wendy who delivered the twenty twenty lecture for vancouver island university's indigenous speakers series presented in partnership with cbc ideas. This episode was produced by main maniac. Raymond wilms technical production for ideas. Danielle do vow our web producer. Is lisa a uso. The senior producer is the executive producer of ideas. Is greg kelly. And i'm noah i add for more. Cbc podcasts go to cbc dot ca slash podcasts.

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The Hit List: From 'The Crown' To 'Good News,'

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The Hit List: From 'The Crown' To 'Good News,'

"This is one a. I'm jen white in washington. It's been another month of probably too much. Tv but thankfully there's been plenty of new entertainment to keep us busy. This month is served up a fresh slate of dramatic. Tv treats plus new films and music. And we're here with another episode of the hit list to talk through it. All our guests on the hit list today are eric. Duggan's tv critic for npr. Eric thanks for being here. Thanks for having me also with us. Brooke obie award. Winning film critic and author brooke welcome back. Thanks for having me. And emily vendor wharf at large. Emily thanks for being here. It's great to be here so let's start with this show. That's been making waves the force fourth season of the crown on netflix. We've now reached the stage in queen elizabeth's reign that introduces lady diana spencer and the uk's first female prime minister margaret thatcher. I think we have enough respect for one another personally to ask ourselves some of the bigger questions woman to woman. We all the same age off all really just six months between us. And who is the senior eric. Let's get into how the crown on these figures starting with the two. We heard i the margaret thatcher and the queen. Talk about how the show portrays this relationship. Yes so there was always a sense that margaret thatcher and the queen were at odds Particularly when you get deeper into this Latest season the crown and it shows how the queen was upset That margaret thatcher wouldn't support sanctions against the apartheid government in south africa. And so so so we see on the show is that initially. The queen hosts that they will bond over the idea of their two female leaders. Who have to deal with a lot of sexism and men who believe that they can't do the jobs even though The imminently suited for the jobs that they have But in that. Very first meeting Gillian anderson's thatcher is shown to be sexist towards women and indeed the real life thatcher only had one woman. I believe in her cabinet the whole time that she was prime minister so So there's there's a friction between the two. This starts to emerge as the queen realizes what margaret thatcher released hands for and and there's an indication that that your has has an ax to grind against the queen and the royals. Because she doesn't believe that people who are born into a station and having worked to get to where they are that they have the grit required to to lead the nation. And that's something that some historians have kind of quibble with whether or not that was that was true but but it it is it is definitely known that the two of them had a rift in real life. Well this season also digs into the fraught relationship between princess diana and prince charles. Here's one memorable exchange between queen elizabeth and prince charles. It's the marriage. I have done my best. My very best. And i am suffering. You are not suffering. We're all suffering having to put up with this. Let me make something care. When people look at you and diana they to privileged young people who through good fortune have ended up with everything could dream of in life. No one single breathing. Living so anywhere sees calls for suffer. They would if they knew. Knew what they know that you portrayal wife and make no attempt to hide it. They know that thank you. She has psychological problems and eat soul. Doesn't whichever did she does or doesn't do they know that you a spoiled immature man and to see complaining. Unnecessarily married to a spoiled immature woman embassy complaining. Necessarily all anyone wants to the pair of you to pull together. Stop making spectacles yourselves. And make this marriage and jordan enormously privileged positions in life work brooke. There's been a lot of talk about how the show depicts the royals and especially this relationship. What's been your tank. Well i think that this season pretty much shows a very great argument for hawaii. The british monarchy should be abolished honestly. It's very very well done television. But just to see the lack of support just to see the emotional kind of abused that that happens and has kind of well documented throughout history the way that the windsors will cannibalize their own family members in order to preserve their power and privilege. And you know you do have to lose your identity. You do have to shrink yourself. In order to fit into the ideas that are all all the rules that are laid out as well and it can be very damaging to lots of people as we see with what happens to this young innocent naive nineteen year old diana spencer who goes into this family as well as with With charles even though he was much much older but you do see that he has not been able to be his full self as a result of the rules that are laid upon him. And it's You you also see a really good explanation for why it was great that harry and meghan decided to get out of there and to to start a life outside of kensington palace. Oh eric what's your take on how the show depicts the royal family dynamics because there has been some controversy over the season. I what i wanted to say was Some people who who keep track of the royals have disputed the way that the family is portrayed and in particular the way the prince charles is portrayed in the season crown so there is some dispute about whether whether or not you know how much culpability did Dan spencer actually have in in the way that marriage fell apart. And you know how innocent was she you know. Some have contended that she was the first one to two stray in in that marriage. I mean you know. That's the thing about this family. They keep their cards so close to their vest. In real life that it is hard to know what goes on behind the scenes and it is tempting to look at a show like the crown which purports to take us behind the scenes and believe that these conversations which even the creators admitted several scenes are invented. it's tempting to believe that this is what happened and we don't know for sure that this is what happened and We're reaching a point where more people who are portrayed on the show our live and have to sort of course with What the world thinks after they've seen these portrayals prince charles is still alive the they're portraying prince andrew in and people who are beyond the queen and prince philip Who are still alive. And still out in the world and still having to deal with these portrayals. And i'm not suggesting that the that the portrayals are completely off base i was. I was drawn in by the season. And my hunch. Is that a lot of. It is on target. But there are people. Who've covered the royal family closely who dispute some of the portrayals. Well another show that seems to be on. Everyone's radar right. Now is the queen's gambit This mini series on netflix turned. Its spotlight on an orphaned chess prodigy. Clock we've o'clock schering system. Fear opponent doesn't have one come back to the desk and we'll loan you. Play starts in twenty minutes what you're rating. I don't have a rating. Have you ever played in a tournament before. I assure you want to do this. I'm sure we don't have a women's section beginning not beginning doesn't matter if you're an unrated player you going beginners with the people on our sixteen hundred those the price for beginners twenty. What about the other section first prize in the open. One hundred is it against any role for me to be in the open. Not exactly emily. What did you think about the queen's gambit. I really enjoyed the queen's gambit and taylor joy who plays the lead character. We just heard her talking. There is one of my favorite actors working right now and she is just fantastic to watch this her micro expressions when you just sort of focus on her face in close up. Just tell the whole story. And it's such an involving story to its it. Hits all the beats. You'd expect of a coming of age story or an underdog sports movie so it's kind of this weird combination of something like a my so called life and then something like rocky and like. I don't know how those tastes this work together but they worked together perfectly. Well we have to take a quick break. But in a moment we'll continue the hit list with the fresh prince of bel-air reunion and a new batch of holiday movies. I'm jen white. This is one eight from w. amu npr. This message comes from npr sponsor had space life can be stressful but twenty twenty has challenged even the most difficult times of life. You need stress relief. That goes beyond quick fixes. 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We're discussing the biggest moments in pop culture. This month with eric duggan's tv critic for npr. Br obie award winning. Film critic and author and emily vendor were for critic at large for. Vox walter tweets that they're watching lucifer scandal. Power and peaky blinders. All shows that. I plan planned to watch long ago but was never home long enough to do so until now hashtag stay at home and john tweets. I don't know if an internet show counts. It does but i've been making it through with critical role. Not familiar with that one. But we'll have to look it up. Let's turn something else knew this month. Hbo adapted tallahassee coats acclaim. Thousand fifteen book between the world and me and it's written as a letter to his son. Here's the film opened with actor joe morton. This is the week. Learned that the killers of michael brown would never be punished. Were young still believed stayed up until eleven pm that night waiting for an announcement of an indictment and went instead it was announced that there was none. You said i got to go home and you went into your room and i heard you crying. I came in five minutes after i did not. How'd you i did not conflict you. I thought it would be wrong to conflict too. I did not tell you that it would be okay. Because i never have believed that it would be okay what i told you what your grandparents tried to tell me that this is your country eric. Talk about the way. This is adapted for the screen. Sure i was lucky enough to moderate a panel with The director kamilah forbes and china tallahassee coats who wrote the book That inspired this film and also served as executive producer for the film. And you know the film is sort of created as this sort of tone poem in a way. It is a collection of monologues. Taken from the text of the book. Read by actors Like joe morton. Who were just so skilled at at at finding new meanings and new ways of conveying the ideas that tallahassee so elegantly portrayed in the in the book and then they're also married with a host of different techniques to to bring you through different moods so they they filmed A among log in one of the courtyards at howard university because howard university looms is a big focal point in the book and the film as a place. Where black excellence is sort protected and incubated and then A place where the where draws power from all the different kinds of black folks who gathered there and so seeing a monologue filmed in that empty. Courtyard says something about Cove it says something about where we are today says something about the importance of the school. And then there's animation that that That shows Young black kids playing and conveyance some the joy of black culture than there's archival footage of people like Martin luther king junior and angela davis speaking out and and and alongside tallahassee lines asking pointed questions about why we are taught in schools about some civil rights leaders who are non violent. And we're not talked taught about others. Who are more revolutionary and so it all comes together to to create this amazing statement about the dangers in the beauty of being a black person in america. And and how the system tries to take you apart and Eliminate your body and one moment but how you can find community and you can find excellence and you can find beauty in your culture In in in another it is just an amazing piece of work. Well let's change gears abed and talk about the fresh prince of bel-air reunion. That's been airing on hbo. Max the headline moment was when janet hubert who played the original vivid was given a chance to confront. Will smith publicly over their feud. When i left. Shell i have this new baby and no one. Family disowned me. Hollywood disowned me. My family said you've ruined our name. And i wasn't on professional on the set. I just stop talking to everybody. Because i didn't know who to trust because i've been banished. And they said it was you who banished me because you were you were will you. Were kid was heart breaking. Can you give us a little more context on the thirty year long feud and in what this moment really meant. Yes so i think. For all of us. Fans of the fresh prince of bel-air the most glaring and obvious issue with this revolutionary. Show that addressed so many issues that we face in our community and told so many of our great stories and was so funny. The glaring issue was that midway through the sixth season run. They replaced the dark skin and give with what became known as the light skinned and And so to understand. We've seen kind of the tabloid headlines over the years With funds ribeiro and janet hubbard going back and forth about whose fault it was and who did what to whom But so there was never really any clarity except for the fact that we knew that janet basically disappeared. This was talented amazing. Black woman who could dance she could sing. She was a classically trained actress. I mean she. She had everything she had all and then she lost it And her career never recovered and we never really knew why so to be able to sit there and see her sharing her truth in this reunion and to not receive any pushback just to be able to talk. I thought that was really powerful. Even though she did end up apologizing before will apologize. You know at least she did get her apology and she did get her moment but i think twenty seven years in is entirely too long to have to wait for something like that. We've all been impacted by the loss of janet. But i'm not seeing her on our screens. Not just as fans but also when you call. Janet was explaining when you call a dark skinned black woman difficult. That doesn't just impact. Janet that means that other dark skinned black actresses who trying to work in this industry were also impacted and also could have received. Well we know we know what kind of of people behavior that these kinds of actresses are so. Let's just avoid all of that. We've seen color ism happened throughout the industry y- beyond these past twenty-seven years but definitely during this time as well and continuing on now we've see we see that happening and so i do think that while that was a beautiful moment and janet does seem to feel as if she has received everything that she needs to receive from this moment. And from this apology. I do think that there are more reparations. That need to be paid for all of the losses that we've had in the black women that will never know that we lost because of stereotypes like this. Well i want to turn to holiday movies because it is november which means they movies are in full force. Emily one of the holiday movies. You wanted to bring up his happiest season. It's a new christmas romcom from hulu that centers around the coming out story. It tell us about the movie and white came up as one of your recommendations this month. If you're looking for a movie that breaks the christmas movie format even more than you know having a lesbian couple at center this is maybe not the one. It is a very traditional christmas. Romcom in almost every way but at the center are kristen. Stewart and mackenzie davis who have fantastic chemistry. And it is one of those stories that like. We don't have a ton of stories about people at christmas time. And so it's it's really lovely to see this telling that story and i do you know. It's full of great performers the characters. Who aren't the two central ones. Don't get the best story lines but it is fun to see mary. Steenburgen burgeoned come in you know just deliver a few lines on a southern accent have a great time but yeah the the central story is really the reason to watch here and those two actors are fantastic together now you also have a wreck recommendation for an eight episode holiday. Romantic comedy series on netflix. It's actually based on some young adult books. Yeah it's called dash and lilly. It's about two teenagers. Who who start passing around this notebook that trade dares with each other and this one's actually. I think really well done for what it is. It's a a y. A romance set around christmas so if any of those three things to do off. Maybe don't watch but if that sounds great to you. I think you're really going like this. It has its issues. I think that the show has this weird class politics where the two main characters sort of treat all the service industry workers they run into like you know not the greatest but it's really lovely and winning again. This is one of those things where the chemistry between the two leads is so potent. That kind kinda worth watching for that. Eric really briefly. Do you have any new holiday movies. You're enjoying this year. Maybe something you want to revisit during the holidays. Yeah i'm not. I'm not a real holiday movie person. So my favorite holiday movies are really So the first one is die. Hard whichever you know about whether or not even christmas movie. I am not entertain that debate at all these christmas and i do watch it at christmas. And that's the end of it. And then also the grinch with jim carey which a lot of people don't like but it has become a family tradition in my home. Me and my kids sit down and watch it every year. I'm a fan of l. around christmas. We're talking about the latest in pop culture. This month with eric duggan's tv critic for npr brick obie award winning film critic and author and emily vanderberg critic at large for. Vox and we're hearing some music from netflix's jingle jangle christmas journey which is a magical story about a toy maker. I watched it over the weekend. I can't recommend it highly enough. We'll talk about it a bit more after the break. I'm jen white. This is one eight okay. This message comes from. Npr sponsor three m supporting communities in the fight against covid nineteen since the outbreak. Three m has responded with cash and product donations including surgical masks hand sanitizer and respirators through local and global aid partners. In addition three m is on track to produce to the respirators globally by the end of twenty twenty learn. How three am is helping the world respond to covid nineteen goto three m dot com slash. Covid three m science applied to life. Lauren co of local kitchen when from pies zoster. It looks like a crime scene all the berry juices everywhere to pie master. She'll share tips based on years of baking delicious pies. That are stunning. Works of art to listen and subscribe to. Npr's life kit. Now let's get back to the hitlist. Our pop culture round up with air duggan's tv critic for npr for ob award winning film critic and author. Emily vander wharf critic at large for. Vox brooke what did you think of jingle jangle. Jingle jangle was very sweet. I was very excited for my niece and nephew to watch it. Because it's something that we never get to see. Its black fantasy and christmas and just so many wonderful things but also magic. You know there are math geniuses. There too little black girls who are math genius is And there's force whitaker. This felicia shah. There's an economic rose. It's a musical. I mean it just feels like it has all of those things that we love about the season In in a way in a story that we've never seen before. So i thought it was very inventive and very cute I'm overlooking some of the plot holes that exist overlook. Yeah and my my niece and nephew love it. So i'm happy if you need a reminder that ekonomi rose can sing her whole entire face off just wait till like the back third of the film she has this amazing number and she's just such an incredible vocalist. I loved it. It's a great family watch Well we got a whole new slate of fall tv this month and some decided to include the pandemic in their storyline or have actors wear face masks on seen a lot of you bring up. This is us as a show. You're watching and this is one of the shows grappling with the with the pandemic. Eric how are you seeing shows take on covert nineteen. Well it's been interesting That is a choice that every show round had to make as the lockdown shut down production of television over the summer but producers and writers were still meeting and trying to figure out what they were gonna do once. Production resumed and now. We're learning You know network. Tv shows in particular coming back to new episodes. You know this past week and the week before and we'll see more comeback in the first week of december so you have some shows particularly the medical shows and the first responders shows of course they're going to have to deal with it so the good doctor had has is dealing with covid chicago med and in chicago fire and places like that have all of their doctors and first responders emergency people dealing with covid. There was a controversy with an abc show called big sky. Which was created by david. Kelly who you may know from remember from la law and the practice shows that and he has a show that involves these two women who run a private detective agency and set during the time of covid they show during the show that some people are wearing masks but there are scenes set in a restaurant and set in a bar where most people are wearing masks. And it's really kinda weird. They decided to set during the time of covid. But have a bunch of characters who aren't really sort of obeying any of the guidance that you have from health authorities about how you're supposed to be living during this time and i think that's the problem that Some of these shows are gonna run into if you set. During the time of covid you are committing your characters to conducting themselves a certain way and you're committing yourself to Trying to portray the world in a certain way. Where there's a whole other level of behavior that you have to sort of portray. And i think a lot of these shows are gonna have trouble being consistent emily. How are we seeing reality. Shows dealing with the pandemic reality shows actually have a easier. Time sort of constructing a bubble around their production. Not every reality show but but some of the ones that people know best for instance something like the bachelor is really able to construct in essence a bubble where people can't leave and sort of stay in the same place and that way they can all ensure that they're staying cove free another show. That's done a good job of that as the abc series shark tank which constructed. Its own bubble in las vegas. I mean a lot of this is network publicists saying this. So we don't know how non permeable those bubbles are but we haven't heard about an outbreak in those series either where there have been outbreaks. Mother scripted series. Where there isn't a bubble so there is some idea that the reality shows maybe have an easier time of this. Even if you not something like something a little bit more wide ranging like the amazing race would not be able to be produced in this environment be tweets. My daughter and i have recently discovered parenthood and are completely invested surprisingly well written with good acting. And let's see listener tweets. I actually watched jingle jangle and it was an excellent movie with an excellent cast. I can't get the image of forest whittaker dancing out of my head though it was hilarious. Divorce whitaker we love whitaker. Let's move into some new music that came out this month. Megan thee stallion. Megan thee stallion dropped her new album. Good news and here's one of the tracks body which he performed at the. Ama's this week be built. Yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada. Yeah they'll crazy. Kirby big wait okay. Brooke twenty twenty. It's been a significant year for megan thee stallion's she's coming off the while excessive wop with cardi b. How does this measure up for you. I think this album is fun. It's very in megan's lane You know. I think the good news is that meghan can do even better than this on her next album. I mean this is her debut album. So there's been a lot of anticipation for it. She's already hit so many milestones without even having an album So you know. She's it's only from here. But i do think you know. It's it's a trending right now number one On itunes for that single as well as the album itself She's in a good position and she's just so lyrically talented But it's it's fun. There are a lot of really fun songs on the album. It's it's very enjoyable. And i can't wait for her to go deeper and her next album chris tweets parks. Recreation is a standard fall back for comedic relief with a strong sense of heart and gratitude. Emily turning to any comfort. Choose these days. yeah you know. This is the time when i'm watching more. Tv than i'm watching new tv. That was kind of true for me already. I i some of these newer shows. I find hard to take. But i've been watching a lot of star trek deep space nine recently. It's it's obviously a show that that's from the nineties and there are some cheesy production values and all of that. But it's a really wonderful portrayal of what the future could look like. That sort of leaves me optimistic that we might get out of this right now. I've been thinking about turning back to ds nine. I'm watching the more recent iteration Star trek on cbs. But i've been thinking. I need to revisit that series and this is another plug for that eric. What about for you. Any comforto's you're turning to right now. Well it's interesting that you mentioned the more recent. I'm actually watching that as well watching star trek discovery. And because i'm a tv critic you know. I get episodes early. So i'm two episodes ahead of the general public and watch this show but But i'm enjoying watching their new vision of the federation and all of that. I also with my sixteen year old son had been re watching the closer this police drama that Cure sedgwick starting. Now the thing that's weird about it is that there are a lot of elements of the show that are quote unquote coppa ganda. They are sort of. They're designed to paper over the excesses of the cops who are pursuing criminals You see them. Disregarding people's rights convincing people to disregard their miranda rights they do all kinds of things that are questionable on the show. But my my son. And i watch it so that we can critique the show and we're always looking at each other. I can't believe they did that. Oh so there's a that's what happens. When you're i think a tv critic and you and your you've raised a kid. We're both critiquing the thing while we're watching it and also experiencing the style of watching a show that that we still somehow even though it's incredibly flawed so there you go brook any nostalgic views for you these days. You know what. I just started watching again. Shits creek It's just. I tried to watch it before the pandemic and it just couldn't get into it but after all the hype winning all the emmys and all of that I thought why not give it a try and now being locked down with my family in a situation that i can't really control because of this pandemic it really has brought that show Into a new context for me. And it's just so funny and it's just so lovely and sweet and it's the kind of show that is just really powerful in that it created this world where homophobia exist There's a gay couple that is just beautiful and lovely. And they have the normal ups and downs. But they don't face any criticism from the outside world. And i just thought if you could write a show any show and and have it be something this powerful. Why wouldn't you do it. i just. I think it's such a great example for us of what we can of the power of television and what we can do if we allow ourselves to imagine the kind of world that we want to see and put those on tv. Instead of the hyper realistic shows that we have. It's with covid or police. Brutality are all these why not create the show. That shows us who we could be. I'm really quickly before we wrap up eric. Any last suggestions for folks things. They should watch over the long weekend. Wow there's a great Series of films called small acts. That's on amazon. Steve mcqueen director of twelve years of slave curated and was involved with the production of these. The first of those films went up on amazon on friday. And it's about a a restaurant that caters to west indian immigrants in britain and how the police tried to shut it down with multiple raids and how protests led by the black panthers lead to a court case then that That that allowed them to push back against the racism in late nineteen sixties britain against black immigrants. It's a really great film and a great series of films that people should check out. That's eric dagens tv critic for npr. Obie award winning. Film critic and author and emily vendor wharf critic at large. Vox thanks you. All today's producers were michelle. Harbin and hector are saudi. This program comes to you w. a. m. youth part of american university in washington distributed by npr. I'm jen white. Thanks for listening. Let's talk more tomorrow. This is one eight.

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It does look like she is the latest celeb- who has stepped in it. Circulating some vaccine conspiracies and the main corners. We are in a period of needing healing and inspired by the okay movie the best of enemies. We're gonna talk about the power of shots what they are an and how historically they've been used to bridge massive divides in creek community changed. Then it signed for story. Time with dez has played in channel the greats and not only will be get insights into her process but also some great history on alberta hunter lorraine hands berry and mabel hampton fabulous black queer artists. This is just a treasure show of rich minority corner. Goodness comet up. Let's get into it with learned laugh and play. Hey hey how you doing. Good doing good mama. I hope mama that's fine. That's fine because you have a baby. You've played my mama in a radio drama. We did so. I mean you could not play my mom and like real life. Because you look like you'd be like we live maps. Couldn't i don't know what you you could by hollywood standards because they like. Let's get someone who looks young. You know and then serious face on. And i'm not smiling. I look away older than i normally do there. That is knowing. Oh wow well speaking of casting and it wouldn't it. Be minority corner is become a tradition for us at minority quarter recently to talk about saved by the bell. And some facet similar naperville having a moment right now and you brought you brought the survey tension is actually your fault. So sal the corner kids what you were like did you see. So mario lopez playing. Yeah now he's good he's king race. He's playing colonel sanders. Yes in a he's playing. Kfc curl standards and this like sexy lifetime movie and it sort of like. Because he's got like. I'm a little confused like it's one of those things that you want the trailer like. This isn't real. The article i read was like this is absolutely real. You see the trailer because it's sexy as looking at the picture right now. It looks like dress up for halloween. As colonel sears. Exactly it doesn't look like it could be like i was on facebook browsing for something and i was like what we wait like. No no wait like going people's patients like why are you doing this tomorrow. Why don't you put bar up on this thing like that. And they're like this is real. It's real because he knew it was having a moment. Super the bell is taking off. He's like let me get those those checks he's like not saying no to anything he's like. Give that money money more money and there's been so many times Roles that are four. Poc people and they've been played by white people. So if maybe maybe colonel sanders latino and we didn't know but if not i don't i think part of it too it mario. I'm pretty sure colonels. Hazardously dead this like taking place like nowadays and it's funny because it's like he like straight up house like the colonel sanders mustache in little lake. Shreds came up and the little boats he got that little and it's like his hair is like it's like it. Looks like someone just ran gray hair dye his hair like it doesn't even look like it's possibly his grey-haired it doesn't look like he's this older person at all. It looks like 'cause playing as janitors. What i did notice so. The title of the movie is a recipe for seduction december thirteenth at noon recipe for seduction. So it's to be like the premise. I believe what. I saw the trailer as his. He has a secret recipe chicken. It's just so sexy and no winter music. Because he's like this. he's the. The rich family hires the shop and the husband's like a complete asshole. And he's like he's like dressing like complete country club regalia. He's just like just make my food and then like she's like my husband doesn't understand me and he's like try chicken and so i think it's gotta be. The chicken is just like irresistible. The recipe loosely based on a true story at about how colonel sanders was making chicken. And like just making the ladies. get a juicy from this chicken yet. So maybe they cast mario lopez because he's so adorable and he's got a sexiness about them so sexy. It's about him so they're thinking you know mario can turn people on. Even if the story is interesting. I mean this story has got to be whacked but you know i would not turn down if lifetime was like you. Wanna be in this move my own if it was like a recipe. Of course i'm in it like Do you wanna do aggressive like a dance seduction starring. James are there. You know like yeah signed me up seven eighths you also a dancer. You're also a dancer buddy so you know it makes. This isn't me for you. Okay it would need to be. It would need to be like something like way different so like it have to be laid. How boy for seduction something like that. Like because that's what the thing is when you think of look for me. When i think of mario lopez the first thing that does not i mean the first thing that comes to my mind is not chicken. Hurdle the salad kentucky fried chicken like. It's the last. Oh you know this. Actually as you'll never guess one of the sponsors the sponsors for this movie is it's kentucky fried chicken do this giant commercial. I think this is just a giant commercial chicken. Yeah okay yeah. That's funny have fun. Have a good time but those like when you look. You're like what does it look at the poster. It's at the poster. It looks like someone fan shop. It does look real and it looks like the because the woman she looks real. I've never seen him before. Looks like a typical time actress. Like a mario lopez qasr playing as was holding her any. Looks like in the bassiest. Like i can't wait for check to clear. He literally just waiting for that. Check to clear it. Looks like a pulp novel. It looks like one of those old timey romance novels right the cover make vague it man so this is what this is because of covert that. They didn't have the budget to like. Do something i don't know like the writers like all we can afford. Is this kfc project wealthy. Now this the thing. I think there's a lot of these interesting projects that are laying around and now that people can make real all this up to the surface so we're going to see all kinds of interest attics. This was made by three or four years ago. Nobody wanted to see it. S oh now. They need content. We're desperate for content. I don't need to say could be pretty interesting shoe. We're scraping the bottom of the barrel. People have not been able to work. I totally get. It kinda reminds me of. Did you see like actors looking for work. Did you see the actress who tyree. Data's tara reade recently. Okay so the while nicole kidman woke up the other day entire reed nicole kidman Was trending and i'm sure nicole kidman had no idea why. Let me as a co kidman has some show on hbo Where people are questioning lake. Where was she actually supposed to be like. Her accents is her accident. You weren't you weren't sure for accent was like upper west side or australia lake. It was like all over the place with it. So nicole kidman. She did a post and she's like everybody tuned into the finale. Demus show on hbo and then tara reade commented on this post and tyree commented she said you are truly amazing and everything you do. I have b. e. in a huge. I have be in a huge fan forever. Hopefully one day we can work together. Soon i'm losing. I'm producing a movie. Sorry i'm producing a movie ma. Masha mushroom starring. Vivica fox billy zane beverley d. Ngelo myself are read sunday. And it's truly is amazing script. I would love you to read it store. Line and universal doing it. It's a franchise of five films. If you can follow me so i can tell you more kindly tara make. She shot her shot shot. I got work for anybody to imagine. She obviously doesn't have any other way to reach her. She didn't see the ever number. She's like any other way. I just so many know anybody who maybe new somebody that could hook her up. See dislike commented on. I think it was a tweet or on. Instagram dislike commented on it. And i just love it. That it's a franchise of five films like what is this guy mushroom. It's going to be interesting. Collective group of people in their wish our day in there. I watch some wish and billy zane I don't think this movie is real. He's gonna say. I don't i guess is coming up station chief. He was coming up with. Haitian sorry it not a banker and was big shit up. I think maybe see ran into these people. I think he ran into these people at a party was like oh we should do this. Movie like mazas mushroom five films with what could possibly even be about mosses mushrooms. Five movies five of them. Hey listen she's dotting for the future. And i give her for that and if this real i mean it might not be but if this is real. I think that she was bold gold. That's truly and i. It takes initiative and she took some initiative. And let's see if nicole's willing to to read the script you know she might be. I just love the whole woke up. Yes because it was all over the news talking about this. This is so ridiculous right like you know promote her a little dvd. I also love that. She says follow me. So i can tell you more like she was like everything but they don't have any way into each other's like otis following me back and then d it slide into my dm's but you're right tyree an inspiration because you know we should all have the acidy so just go. Message the celebrity. Like hey i got a script for ya exactly needs some worth exactly. You need some work you know who would say yes to this. Who mario lopez he would absolute might do check clears of moscow's mushroom us. Five franchise me. I don't know papa. John's could also sponsor it can be masters mushrooms. Ought papa john's which he may have a contract so he may be out. You may need to go to somebody. The next one on the line of saved by the bell does that guy or something. Maybe when i think it couldn't be papa john's i think that guy. I'm pretty sure papa. John's has been we. Don't papa john's anymore he's in trouble. I think yeah he did so. Wouldn't it be would be. Maybe yeah i believe papa. John's turned out to be like a racist or something. I can't keep track was just so are you. Yeah okay. Tyree by papa papa. papa popeye's for a little sponsorship and you to go mariella jump on painting speaking of people getting on board you get so. Recently i will smith and i what agenda hubbard of fresh prince of bel-air. They just had a reconciliation is very beautiful and Monique now every once in a while. So does pop back in and be like. Hey you know who else. Oh somebody at apology. Oprah tyler perry to me and so. She used this as an opportunity to remind everybody she was like hat's off. Will smith for apologizing for what he did to janet About her career. Perhaps highly tyler. Perry who has admitted in private that he was wrong will follow suit and be mad enough to apologize in the public like he promised. Well work on oprah winfrey and lionsgate a little later So was tyler. Can you give me a heads up. Like what was tyler supposedly wrong about this like do wrong. So this goes all the way back to two thousand ten precious right. Yeah she won an oscar. And so you would think like here. Goes her career that like she won the oscar and it pretty much ended her career and the scuttle but around the industry is that she just wasn't willing to play the game of hollywood where you have to go to lionsgate wanted her to go do all this press since they wanted to go to cans and they wanted to go to like paris and france but they weren't necessarily think she wasn't gonna get paid for it right. Sue was put her up like a hotel. She wasn't going to pay to go there but they weren't. She wasn't going to get paid to do it. And so her and her husband were like i they. They labeled as difficult because they weren't willing to do those sorts of things. She wasn't going to lot of the hollywood parties yadda yada she got pretty much. I labeled as democrats as difficult. Okay so i heard also that she wanted to be able to bring her entourage like if she's gonna do these if she was going to be doing these. Press things if she was going to be going out of the country she wanted to make sure she could bring her hair her. Makeup people are stylists all these people and that's like five to ten people with her that she expected to get them to be paid right that and they were like. I think i kind of the little bit i've got from. This is now she is. She feels of herself that she is a big star. Own comedy club. She's been working since she was seventeen. Years old is incredibly talented. Incredibly capable but she wasn't at a level of like you know a huge star where they will splash out that extra money for your bring your entourage with you right and think that that was also a thing too is like if i feel kind of if you're not going to play the hollywood game which is you know. Go to these press. Junkets do these things and follow suit. How they like you to it so you can sort of publicize the movie. Yeah then you have to understand when people are looking to the future and they go. Oh you're not gonna be willing to do that kind of stuff so once you in this flick and that's kind of it's kind of like you have the right to do whatever you need to satisfy yourself as an artist. You have the right to ask for what you want. And it's just a matter of you have to deal with the consequences of two yup. I think that's yeah that's really and it's it's such a catch twenty two because i do understand as especially as a black woman. You're to want to bring your own people with you your hair in jamaica. How many times have i gotten to as set and they have someone who. I always bring my own stuff with me just in case so i totally do. It's sort of this cat. She again is on a journey and pathway like her other white female counterparts in industry. Don't have to deal with. And i'm sure there are other actresses who were maybe even the seem levels her even a little bit less could have made those demands and they would have may be bent over backwards for to to do it. You know And so so there is that as well. It's it's it's it's unfortunately it's because i guess the other part of it were she's like i guess i guess who was her and tyler perry hot a conversation and tyler perry was like man that you just would have done all these things like. This wouldn't have happened and he's also is like you know i'm gonna back pay you for you know what you should have made for the extra suffer like precious and i guess. She reported that conversation. The conversation yes supposedly supposed to be kind of perry. What an interesting world i mean. I'm recording this conversation. But you know that already like you know. I know what i'm going to sound like. Just it's like melania's fred. Also gordon her conversations like what is this world. i don't. I don't know maybe i do want to like have made it so far that like everyone i talked to is trying to like record breaking seasons trying to like get me. That's a sad world. I don't want that. Please don't record the conversations. I don't know if she was trying to get him. But i think it probably at that point. She was trying to protect herself to try to you. Just in case like it'd be like oh. Monique said this and she's like no. This is what happened play. Let me play. it's eight. Let me play the tate but to use that tape to try to force an apology down. You're gonna get your apology. Yep and here's the thing about this whole situation every time i'm like well okay but then something else comes out and i'm like no neagh like i like. It just goes too far. I'm always just like on one end. I'm like oh okay. They don't want to pay you for press but you did need to go do the press like it's part of the gig. I know you nice. Get the extra money but you also get paid. You know if you're not making you know. Mcdonald's money like no work at mcdonald's but she's doing precious doing okay. I understand the also being in the trenches for ages and she's been working netflix's also wasn't giving her her just desserts like the netflix thing. Difficult thing because she wasn't she like What's her name. Amy schumer was the hot thing at the moment. Schumer had like had a good years and monique had been doing stuff for a while. That was in the that was kind of popular in zeitgeist. Offered her a deal. They're saying hey we're offering you a deal and it's not going to be amy schumer money or somebody hot right now. And what's it because it's just like she's not hot because of when she got that label similar to janet hubbert. She got as difficult and especially as a black woman when you get labeled as difficult especially both those times when they at the time for both of them when they got labeled as difficult. Yeah yeah i am. I want to root for monique. I'm rooting for her. I want her to i wanted to. But she's also so hurt. And i think the hard part is like she needs someone kind of but she's also she's messing with oprah like. It's a done done no for me. I mean i'm with you to you. I always root for her. Because i think she's an incredibly powerful storyteller. I think she's very funny. And i think that she has a lot of like so much inside of her that she still has to give in to share with the world for sure I also do think that she like she really felt because of all. How are the hard work she does. And how talented. She is that she was at that level of these kind of people that get stuff easier. And i'm not just talking about white people out talking about in general stars. She wasn't holly berry at the time she wasn't. You know like these other people that are sitting there. She wasn't samuel jackson. She wasn't denzel and so it was just like you have to know that you know where you're at at the time with level you're at how other people are perceiving. You and i do think that she's going to. She's gonna come up and she's going to do some more stuff. But i i. Don't think putting the blame of tyler. Perry oprah yeah closer to where she wants to go. I actually think because like you said it's it is a game. Unfortunately it's a game it's a it's a business and it's and it's a job and it's politics it's a very public job we can see who's moving up. Who's okay you know. We see all the inner workings of it. It's so visible. And so perhaps by her and it sucks. Because i know i know. She's so she's so hurt by the whole entire process but perhaps by continuing to bring it up is not helping the situation in the case especially when oprah's name into it you gotta let that one go because harpo. I mean in tyler. Perry owns the largest like physical studio in the country late. You don't wanna miss when that you want to take him to copy. Yeah kind of like also just for her own own like let it go to move forward. You know yes yes. People should have given her jobs and to see her talent and yes people should be giving african. american women and men work that they deserve. That's for all from you know so it's kind of like. Let's let's move forward. Yeah yeah i. It's sort of like what you're saying it's like when you are when when you don't forgive somebody and and when you wish illinois anybody else it's like drinking poison and hoping the other person dies and so monique grow. I know you a big fan of this podcast. So we just we have just we have. We have Gone over the files and we say monique to forgive. Remember that show forgiven. Forget you should open up the door and be on the side of forgiveness and you know what you know what tara reade i though somebody who's available for russia's mushrooms yes to buy pictures we're casting this and we're going to start bad casting matzos mushrooms scant job. Why not why. oh why he's like. It's like hero movie. Who has the audacity to sit down and watch like right like five movies. You have to have cry the creativity and even towards louis. Oh i wrote nine movies bullshit. He knew way be one movie started. Like oh i think this happens and then modeled around like he didn't know he didn't know he said episode four. Then we're like oh there's other episodes but also where have you seen tara. She might right in that stuff for the past nine or ten years. I haven't seen her. Oh so maybe. She was sort of like james cameron with all of his avatar movies. That she's been hurried has just been working away. Just were away. Moss's mushrooms y'all were laughing and then the watch like a few years from now. We're gonna like masa mustard laughing. I'm trying to get in bausch gonna say okay. You know what his mushrooms do is find this threat and be like. I'm available on that threat of nicole kidman and relate tara. I've i'm going to send you my head shot and resume and like a video audition two years from now. You see me up in muscles mushrooms. Yes and i'll be like in your like rats on the fifth one. i can't. i'm like what happens. I can't tell you. I can't tell you. They're very about the scripts. In fact we only get like The pages that we're in because we don't want to spoil it so that it's move over and see you we've over. Mcu masses nut through this is mushroom. We'll make guide on unless serious note but about controversy hap- yeah you. I'm rooting for everybody. Black but man. Just start off by saying both ruined for everybody black and This is a little bit closer to home too. Because you all remember. I was hosting the black panther red carpet premiere and our shiri letitia rights could possibly who could possibly end up being the next black panther. We don't own make because in the comic books or character steps in i got on twitter and letitia. Right was a trending for all the wrong reasons. We need to have a conversation balances right so essentially so you know the vaccine is coming out and she had essentially. Reid tweeted a video from this guy. I wouldn't pronounce tomi. Rei army who is not a medical professional and just how to a video. It's a long video about the vaccine and it pretty much was like he also stated in the video. He doesn't understand vaccines and pretty much like he was skeptical about it and but he's also skeptical about climate change xenophobic transphobic. All in this one video and sister all right tweeted this video with prayer hands. Seventy seconds of just seventy seconds of it not the whole thing. Just just found out little snippet bart and tweeted that. And i guess like it was pretty much about questioning you know and i listened. I give space and graze especially for adults black person. Who's lake pumping the brakes on a vaccine because historically yeah yeah we have been tested on we. Have you know why to st experiment. Yeah and even just like four sterilizations. Thanks the the medical industry even till this day is still racist towards black people with the vast amount of you know. We've done podcast on here about it but you know the the black female mortality rates and even just the the care that black people tend to get to advocate for ourselves so much more. So i'm all for like an actual conversation by sweet to some lake. You know dangerous nonsense pump. The breaks here and people and he doesn't it will say because people love this right. Yeah love her so much. The actually were very careful in the way that they were like kind of like a. Are you sure about this. Like there was a lot of. They were much nicer than they actually usually are people and then she was like re she was feeding back. You know you know. It seems like you know if you don't conform to popular opinions but ask questions and think for yourself you get cancelled and then it's just like but wait. No now you're taking it to a different. Uh you're taking it to a different direction because one in her re tweet She didn't ask a question. She just put up those prayer hints. That wasn't harassing any questions. That was her just essentially co-signing on what this guy was saying. And you know also to a question you know to me what that guy is saying. It's a lot of the same stuff that you see in these sort of cuba nine and sorta the trump of the the culture trump is on which is to me is not thinking for yourself And then i'm also tired of on the third point of it. You know she mentioned about. Oh you get yourself cancelled. I just so tired of like celebrities and media and politicians hijacking the france. Cancel like yeah. It started off as a joke. It's a joke. Like you know otis person canceled because i can't actually cancel somebody like i'm not just a joke of saying we're done with that person or you know they died and it was a tongue-in-cheek. Ll sort of thing and to you. Know i mean. People are getting canceled. Like harvey weinstein r kelly. Like you know you've canceled but there's some people get cancelled and also renewed so. I just like i'm tired of people talking about cancel culture. I think it's i feel like the media and people who didn't really understand it hijack the conversation and made it into something that it wasn't so that's what are your thoughts about missiles disarray. Couple ideas one is the worst thing of you know you have the right. You have the right kind of express your opinion. Every human being has the right to express their opinion. And especially when you do it in a public forum. You're going to be getting some responses back so you do have to prepare for that or you do have to be open like seeing people thinking you're coming from and so the second part that see like didn't she was expecting like you were saying wishes this huge. You know following people and if you argue to have a conversation and see a statement. I have to be ready. That people were going to have been trying to focus it back to no. I'm just talking about that. We should be able to question the vaccine. We questioned vaccine. Because i'm thinking in her situation as an you know a big deal artist. Who's going to be who isn't films who isn't tv. Shows who is making a lot of moves. There's going to be a lot of people that are putting pressure on her to take this vaccination so she can get back to work so for her. It's like it's like an eminent thing. That was a lot of us are not having to deal with because we're not going to be the first people that they're trying to give this to. You know what i mean. We're not going to be trying to make sure that we're safe while unless you get cast in marshes mushrooms and whatnot so there's that So there's that so it's like a really a thing that's in her mind that she's really struggling with and so she wanted to kind of see if other people kind of maybe shared her concern. I don't know but then to put them this video. This is the thing. This is the problematic part. If you're putting up video only a couple of seconds that you are buying into that you're believing that's you're saying. This is what i'm committing to. I'm committing to these ideas. He has but when he don't listen to the whole thing or you don't you don't like st. How the whole impact of the whole thing will make people think about you. And they'll assume that you watch the whole thing anthem. These values that you carry with you. That's that's problematic. She has to recognize that. There was one person i saw. Who made a tweet like. Oh now she's transphobic. And i was like. Oh you're making a leap there. You're making a leave. No you're assuming. Leaves everything in this video. Do you know what i mean. And that's where. I was great. Yeah this is very different. And i think it's something like you said to think it's just you know we have to take responsibility or the things that were putting out. She's also she's young like she's i don't know exactly offers She's young brit. And you know like most brits like they're they they don't bend as easily as americans will when it comes to changing your opinion because a lot of people are not agreeing with you where we look at our pockets. A lotta actors in this town. Will you look at their pockets. And be like oh. I'm messing with my money. Hold on where she's like. She's like meaning from what i'm talking about. I'm just talking about the vaccine. I'm just talking about the vaccine. She's trying to bring it back to center. I'm just talking about the vaccine but it's like you got to acknowledge all the stuff that this guy said in the video because this is what you see mike advocating. 'cause yeah and it's just another example of like you have to check your check your information and especially big platform like that responsibility responsibility to is hurt. Going back to her being a like a lot of them they i. This is my generalization as desert rogers that they do not think of themselves as these huge stars with these huge platforms and being highly influential. They will think of themselves as individuals in the world. Doing job there a jobbing actor and they don't have enough not enough but they don't have a lot of them. Don't have the eagle that we have where it's like the things i say. Impact the world. you know. they don't a lot of them. Don't think in those terms so yeah she's fifty people. She thinks her listening to her. When it's actually fifty thousand a girl goes. Yeah all these numbers scab. 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Thanks things like twitter like we can see what everyone's thoughts are usually people. Just think things. Now we can see everybody's thoughts before we didn't always have to inside like i don't need to know what everyone's thinking all the time like you have sixty thousand thoughts on a given day and not all of them are important and for some of these people. At least twenty thousand of those thoughts ended up on twitter lake in a day. So i think we've been talking about this a lot on the podcasts. We've been talking about the healing from the crimes and the genocide that happens if to indigenous people in first nations folks and still thinking about. How do we heal from You know slavery that happened in the jim crow this all sort of atrocities. That have happened. And how do we go about doing it. And a lot of it is storytelling and hearing and connecting and i just came across recently two different actual ways to go about creating healing and yeah the first one i came into contact with was i was watching a movie. Called the best of enemies came out in two thousand nineteen directed by robin kissel of the hunger games so these branched out he might be student. Directing marshall's mushroom. I don't know taraf and then also starting to rise ep. Henson and sam rockwell. Most people skipped it. But when you're chilling at home and you're like amazon prime and then there's already something they're just when you get those movies were just like oh my god. I don't have to pay for anything. And i'm just watching this story and they've been in this space of wanting to hear like based on true story because it's like there was another one who is the one with i michael jordan and jamie foxx. Oh yes when jamie fox's character's in prison and out or to get him out yes yes it was based on a true story. I watched that one day. I watched that movie. The day off jess mercy. I watched that. When i the day that the senate decided that they weren't gonna move forward with impeachment they weren't gonna like here any witnesses. I went to go see that movie because it was like for me based on a true story. Movies always reminded me of like they always remind me that like people have overcome adversity. I like it when you know in the end. Even though like in the middle of the movie even towards like the last immensely. Oh how they gonna get out of this. Oh this is bad. The world is terrible and then they like triumph over. And you're like okay. This is okay. This is what happens. And so guess. I love me some you know. Yes but you're right. It's razzie pinson. Yeah we don't have. She's going for her oscar. But this is not about this is not about i have been yes yes right yes one. Is this the first one. I've been talking about is the surat. So what are the best of enemies takes place in it. Takes place in. Nineteen seventy one and bill riddick who he is tasked with helping a city in durham Through a ten days surat. I'll tell you. What is a moment and to decide whether schools should be integrated after a fire. Dramatically damaged destroyed half of the buildings classrooms at a black elementary school. Yeah it's not a surprise communities were divided on what to do. It can't be white folks. Were being white and being like i want these kids in my school and this is nineteen. Seventy-one right yeah right. Yeah yeah very true. And so the movie kept saying like a surat. I was like we're gonna have a surat. And i'm like oh my god what is right. And so surat is designed to this bill riddick real. He's i think like eighty eighty one. Now he's still alive and he used to go around doing these. Strides and surat was designed to create a dialogue between community community members with opposing views to solve problems for the betterment of their community. And so it's a very holistic. Rast fruits and sheet solution oriented tool brings different perspectives together into the same space so that ideas can be shared and heard. Typically shots have really been mainly used for sort of urban planning. Bill riddick wrote a book about this. How do charts. And he had done a few like his job for a us. Travelling around doing surat's And the reason why people really likes usually it's around urban planning so usually it'll have like city planners and city officials architects community members. Just it's a swat the people from all different areas of the community experts to come in and essentially debate and talk about the issues. Right and the. We've we've had people really like surata. Usually happen in a very short period of time. This one robin and ten days but typically they go for four to seven days so it's just like jam packed and the end there's a solution or resolution that comes out of it like you are guaranteed some sort of resolution or solution out of it really. Lieutenant lakesha rots and So you have so in this one in particular. So you'll have people who are called like the main stakeholders in a charlotte In this one. I for the school for the cigarette at school There were eight people that are part of the main stakeholders so they were going to like all of the meetings they were going to. You know they were pretty much running the schedule. But community members could pop in at different scheduled time so like listen to provide facts or testimonials or provide or give debates and so everybody can participate but the main stakeholders have more of a vested interest there at like every single one of the meetings that happen and so this one in particular there were two opposing members of the community and at water into raji p. Henson plays in water. Who's a local black activists. And then cpi ellis who sem rockwell. Played him in the movie and cpi was a cyclops of clan so he was like rand. Wizard have things. And they both were selected to co-chair this to coach hair. Yeah and ria co-chair this together again at the end of it to decide whether or not The school would agree because again the black school which is already like poorly funded a burnt down. They have nowhere else to go. I like oh they can. Just go in those classrooms. They can't go a burnt down. And i so so. There is made the each scott to select three other members to join the there the committee and of course they were trying to like stack like their sides because ford at the end of the solution. There's going to be a vote and it needs five votes for it to go for school. Segregation of tied than the schools are going to go to be segregated. So you really have to like the community members of the really come out and really state their claims and there has to be all these different sorts of conversations You know there was debates. they were. They had to meet their arguments. There is community input in plates and at the very end. This is not a spoiler. 'cause you can google this but the very end of it when they get to the vote it ends pretty much. Cpi allies tearing up his membership card and he sides with integrated he tears up his ku klux klan on that stage tears up his membership card and boats with integrating the schools and he says He says schools are going to be better by means tearing up this card. I'll tear it up. And he ended up going from being head of the clan to tearing up his car going for ten days and they were like bitter community rivals they would be at city council meetings better. Better community rivals. well I haven't seen the movie. But i'm a it's listening to what was going on from the community people who are coming out and saying like this is what it is to be in our community. This is what it is what the kids need. This is what we need in our country and like sharing their opinions about how the country and education system can be better if this happens and maybe he was like well maybe he actually somewhere deep inside of me actually cared about children's educational moon. Well here's happening. It was a lot more on the human level because in the end and at water in. Cpi became best friends. Like not even kidding like became bads friends after this whole terrorist situation. And how the thing about this like if you're able to reach this one person that changed. The course of his kids went to school. They didn't need to change the entire community entire community they needed. It was just as panel of four and there was some shenanigans that had gone down of like some of the people who are were some of the white people who were Maybe a little bit more moderate or liberal who were on some of the stakeholders at least in the movie. I don't know if this really happened. Relate but in the movie like one of them she was threatened. It was a white woman. She was threatened by the clan. She has to vote like a certain way and so there is all kinds of typical like south shenanigans. Threats and the violence from the ku klux klan is like a well well documented thing. Guess it him job even for people who would even dare to be allies and stick up for what's right but bill. Bill riddick said he was very particular very he he wanted to make. They were co chairs because it would make them have to work as a team and sometimes he would assign them monday tasks so they would have to work together like stacking papers is like doing muendane just like oh you need to go like deliver this thing together and having to spend all this time with each other they realize that they had so much more in common and so sometimes it's like even just getting away from the bigger issues and this getting back to the humanity of it and then we can start connecting us as human beings and just watching this whole entire thing unfold. I was thinking. Oh my god we need more. We need more like this because even just thinking about like twitter and social media. You can't get this level of engagement and connection and empathy on social media. We need to like create these spaces where able to like come together again like a black social activists and the head of a coup clan member were able in ten days to become best friends and one of them cited with integration. Yeah that's huge. That's huge dab. And so it started to think to like you know using things like shots for creative solutions where we can hear all sides in research and you know the importance of like reaching across the aisle and it started making me. Think about using this for when we kind of like reallocating funds in communities or do shifts schools. Do we need some actually schools. We actually need integration of schools again. We need to go through that system again and so because again some of them are schools in the united states. Especially in the north are some of the most segregated schools in the country is we never went through this process because the neighborhoods already segregated and so you know having things like this or even we're having competition about defunding the police. Maybe it's going to a community. Sharon sharon and doing reparations. And then so. I was just to talk about this and then it made me. Think about truth and reconciliation commissions. That was like. Oh and bill riddick said this. He said the way forward must be paid by people who are brave enough to change their own minds and bold enough to change the hearts of others for the good of all ya lot more time read that one word must be paid by people who are brave enough to change their own minds and bold enough to change the hearts of others for the good of all. And i think it's just coming to the table and being also willing to listen open. I'm going to come geared adhere to listen and just secure not. I'm not here to be right. I'm also just here to list to learn to listen and to share issues for both sides even really living on this monster meet meet people where they are but but don't leave the at to try to let your air but through. I'm not going to drag you over. But if i am effective in telling you my story and what my experiences and i have to meet you where you are right. So it's got we're going to find that ground and then the real conversations can can start happening. And i can see where you're coming from and then you can see where i'm coming from. And they really do believe that when when we're able to get to that scene spy you'll hear my pain and my anger and i might understand. Some of yours is too but a bet you can get us to where. I think we need to go yet. It would take that incredible bravery of being able to go okay. I'm going to sit here. I'm going to stand here. And i'm going to be present. I'm gonna be open. I'm going to listen with my heart and not just my fears and not just dumped out and i'm going to be hopeful that we can work out a positive solution. That's going to work for the both of us. But i'm going to be available to hear even the things that i know. I don't hear. Yeah i have to be willing to hear the things. Yeah and that's that's how i hate because we do our best to run towards people who share our opinion share and social media so good for that so good for that and so it is. It's like i think it'd be a great time right now. While everybody's while everyone is constantly searching to find somebody to validate their own opinions invalidates their own insecurities invalidate their own fears bubba to find a space inside yourself and go okay. I'm going to go someplace. And i'm going to hear something that's counted what i believe counter to what i understand and i'm gonna learn from it and i'm going to bring my values and my views and see if someone can learn from what i've got. I think that takes a lot of bravery and i. You know. I'd be willing to be willing to sit down for an and to talk into listen and stuff because i i mean it's for me like i get real like i know like the klu klux klan member like my head was so set it'd be so set and i'd be like okay. Well we got stuff to do and my east coast kick in. We got stuck. So how are we going to do this. But then i have to make sure that. I still keep my know. How do i keep my heart. Open that this person might say some shit that's going to offend me. How do i keep my heart open. How do i stay present in the moment. How do i keep a positive attitude. About what beef and what it is is like at least in the movie the way it was portrayed as when they got to know each other is humans the stop. And sometimes it is the mundane things or you know. He had a child who has special needs and she was able to help him in because she had found out. There was a certain getting to see. Just the human dignity of the humanity of other people. Yeah yeah and that's that's that's the thing too. Because i think that a lot of people for some reason there's two levels of people think that everybody experiences the same things that they do. So that's why. I think a lot of people before. Do not wanna believe when we were talking about racism and the things that we encounter regular basis. Because they're like well. I go through my day and this doesn't happen to me so this can't be true what you're saying because people assume that everybody is having the same experience that they are having when that's not true so it takes the other side is like okay being open to know that this other person Hurts like when you get hit by something and it hurts you. That'll same happen to somebody else. Who looks different from you. You know if somebody loses something in their life when they lose someone in their life if they lose a job if they are impacted by deeply and it affects them emotional physical spiritual all those levels and that same thing would happen to you so to have that empathy and know that somebody else experiences life very similar than you would all the human things we have in common. You know but a lot of people really. They are so set in their minds that they don't even think. Oh you love your children right a basic motherfucker. I love my basic thing. It's basic ice. Sometimes with like if i had acting teacher who's as such being such a monster and so i brought my mom into studio once just like humanize me you know. There is something about. And i have a mother. 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Jazzy intro. then you know what i'll start with alberta then oh see i teed it up. That was perfect. That was perfect. Does is an actor. Extraordinaire i i met you i we did waiting for giovanni were you. Were playing some historical Historical woman was shot at the her. As well. so i just think it's so fastening because you've played these I mean in some way you interested in driving in the same lane because both played you are megan thee stallion video yet. You have modules mushroom. It's fine everyone gets their own vehicles. It's fine but i think it's such interesting. I've actually never played someone a historical person before. I'm actually really intimidated to do it. Because i only person. Historically i've ever been is me is such a character. I just eat i. I couldn't see myself playing. Like martin. Luther king i could do like journey of her hurts. You could do that. You know i do share but that industry presence so you could do anybody that you put your mind to. It's just a matter of just connecting doing your best to connect finding finding the the thing in you that is similar to the characters that you're playing and finding a what about them that you can love and one about them that you can also be afraid of that you have to pull from yourself so you make sure that you're taking a risk when you stand up and you portray them and make sure that you give them all that complexity that's inside of a person but the biggest thing for me when i'm playing somebody that's lived before. Is i try to get myself. Some video of these me moan. I tried to get myself some audio of these people. And i just listen and listen and listen and watch and watch and watch and and i try to connect with their spirit. First of all like i was gonna ask. Do you ever feel like you're kind of channeling to you ray. Sometimes i've gotten lucky. And i know that i felt that there's been more than just me and my imagination on the stage. I've felt it a few times. But i definitely connect i definitely when i'm doing. My background always always focus on making sure. They're being honest and make sure being open. So i can connect to their spirit like like alberta had this spirit of like strength berta albert one hundred spirit of strength and joy and delight in life in to lighten her power. And so i looked at myself and i mean i don't always delayed by power but i was like okay. How can i delight my power. How can i delight in my strength and so then looking throughout my day. What do i do that. Tickles me when i do. That's impressive. and who was a burden hunter for the kids because not all know. Maybe they don't own yes. So alberta hunter was this amazing of blues at blues. Jazz artists Who had this incredible career. She's from memphis tennessee. She sang when she was in a when she was a young girl She had a difficult family life. She ended up deciding because she heard because she was a good singer and she sang why she was in school but she heard that singers up in chicago made ten dollars a week when they were performing so she was like. I want that ten dollars a week so she was eleven years old and she convinced her teacher to take her up to chicago because her teacher was going up to chicago so she convinced her teacher to let her go along with her as she. She is a funny story like her teacher was on her way to the train station. She saw other s. She's like she's gonna shoot going in chicago. And i wanna go. She goes well. Tell your mom ask your mom if you can go and then you can come with me so a berta ran around. The corner waited about ten minutes and then came back around and said oh yeah my mom said i can go with you. Because she's got a friend up there that she wants me to stay with so alberta goes up to chicago with her teacher. Her teachers okay. Is this where the woman lives. She was like. Oh yeah she lives here. That will then walk away. And then i'll just kind of walked up to the room while she wandered around for a little bit and then she kind of walked rooming house and she saw the woman that was her mother's friend out of all. We saw the lights. Is that astle. Yeah yeah so she This woman helped her get a job and so she was working at this boarding house cleaning it and she was able to get room and board and she was peeling potatoes. And that's what she would do all during the day and then at night she would run around to the clubs and try to get herself a job even when she was like eleven years old and so she finally got work i think when she was about the age of fourteen and missing at bordellos she was singing. Speak easies and The biggest thing for her is like she would import a great improv. So would be downstairs listening to the the main performance but always go upstairs to listen to her improv blue songs and she would improv blue songs that included the people in the space and so she was doing that for a long time. You know working during the days peeling potato still for a long time and then going back to singing at these places and then eventually she got gig at dreamland and then things just started really for in for her because she was like well known because she was such a hustler. Concentrate to get work. So she was like. By the twenty-three she was touring europe. In now she was the first queenie you know she was immersed queenie she would haul robots and like had our own traveling show like she had this huge massive career. She also worked with the once Her career die down a little bit after the war started. She was working with usoc. She's running around doing uso tours then eventually When that ended she had to leave music and she went to nursing and so she was nursing for twenty years. Yeah so they retire and then she she would nurse for twenty years supposedly should really loved it. She really enjoyed the job and so they eventually fired her not fired or but they had retired her. Because they're like oh you're seventy years old. The thing was the thing was albert was actually eighty to talk to them. Yeah and so. Wild thing is so. She's eighty two years old and now she's like you know she still lives strong vibrant woman but she's she doesn't have a job so she knew of course all these famous people from the music industry so she ended up going to mabel. Mercer's party that bobby short was hosting and they asked her to sing at the party and so she sang at the party and then one of the people that was there was like your voice is still perfect. Your spirit is so perfect once you come on down and Let barney joseph here you at let him you know. See if he wants to give you some work and she's like oh. I don't wanna do that. But they're like come about so she went ahead and then barney josephson's like yeah. Why don't you come and just do a little two week. Stint that ended up being a six year stint and shut. Yeah at eighty two. And she got she got a record. She got back on a record. Label with columbia movies like she was doing all this fantastic. She's an amazing woman and also she was. She was lesbian. She but i don't think she was very open and very sharing that with most people she kept can hard like what tie this is. A nineteen forty nine thousand nine hundred nineteen twenty eight. Okay yeah so. I mean not. Oh yeah you ended up in mental institutions. If you raise you came out. Yeah or arrested. Yeah she was. She was keeping her cards. Close you also because she also a super popular person at that time as an artist and so she was probably protecting her career. Yeah yeah yes. So she was this amazing lady. She's a she was an amazing dynamic woman who also she was a i guess she she played very fem onstage but she she was butch so so yeah so she you know play it up. Play the different roles to play. Oh yes and then. I think it's interesting when you playing these parts. So i'm always reminded of daniel day-lewis in the played abraham lincoln just like two years. Like you know. Get that voice down. And that's because he was like i don't even know. I think there's maybe like one audio recording of lincoln audio maybe anything to know. Do lewis is able to get it. And it's a rambling. His voice is more higher than people actually really ever ever ever think of it as a at least like you luckily are playing anybody like that for back. You know well you know it's a matter of like like that's that you get to build up more especially with like Lincoln i mean the history. It has so much weight. It's just a matter of how you protect yourself as the artist when you have to do a character that has a lot of weight and significance. And how you make sure that you keep them human. Whoever they are you keep them. You're not doing an impression. you're not doing. You're you're you're channeling you as them like you know. Let them come through my body you know and you can do it a couple of ways to go like oh what's her name Oh my god. The incredible broadway actress who did billie holiday audrey mcdaniel and had billy's voice down she had every bit of her cadences even when she say it was beautiful. So it's a matter. Do you take on the person's voice or do you take on their mannerisms physical mannerisms like how how do you. How do you go about. How close are you trying to get. Yeah yeah my big thing is as long as i make. Sure i get their spirit and their sense of who they are in the world and that that is one of the most important things and of course try to do the physical and all that yeah well speaking of other black historical women and the arts also in who maybe require y'all lorraine hands berry chance play the rain hands very that was fantastic to yeah and the cool thing with a rain. Like are the playwright who did that was jewel gomez. He's been on the show the corner kids or are actually she's brilliant. She's brilliant and so yeah. She wrote this incredible piece and it was. You know waiting for giovanni. And it's mainly the focus is james baldwin. But it was james baldwin's friends and close companions and so lorraine was one of them. And there's this. There's a lot of great audio actually. There wasn't a lot of stuff because her husband especially about her lesbian her lesbianism because her husband kept all that stuff and didn't for fifty years and did not release that and his daughter. His daughter just released that stuff so you we could get more of a whole picture of her. As being as a woman you know living her life in the world and expressing herself honestly. And so i didn't have access to all that stuff because i just recently happened but i had a some audio of her giving speeches and i would listen to it and listen to it and listen to it like right before I'd go on and listed at home before you know during the day and try to get her mindset. So yeah what are some of the biggest takeaways if someone is league all. I've heard of the rain hans berry and the i'm not gonna say shamefully don't know about it because i won't shame anybody. Guiltily guilty guilt guilty. I did a bad thing like ooh sorry. I fucked up. I didn't learn up on some light. Rain hands you can correct that what is of the biggest takeaways that they should know about learning about the rain. Yeah well. I think one of the biggest ones is that she was the first african american woman to have a play produced on broadway. When she was twenty nine yeah a raisin in the sun and i guess another major thing and he died young right thirty four years old. Oh heartbreaking is terrible for her with all that town oh also Young gifted and black which was written by nina simone was about lorraine of course. Of course that makes sense and also That she had a other writings that were done after her passing because she left a lot of books on you know unfinished and her husband finish them and he put them out there. Yeah i'm what else is a great takeaway. Well also because i mean raising the sun is about the segregation that was going on in chicago and her family dealt with tocado. They actually had a case in the supreme court. And so that's one of the things to take away. Well yeah they were fighting on all levels to make sure that you know. There's equality for african american people in housing. And there's another one you played right. Yeah well i pay in that play. I also played mabel. Hampton cable hampton. Yes oh mabel hampton American dancer and Not vaudevillian but slightly comedic dancer. And so she was around during the harlem renaissance. She was she was open. She was open about herself. She never hid herself and so she the interesting thing with her is like so. She danced for a long time. She worked with all these great people. But then when the you know the circuit was dying down. She had to get a regular gig so then she started being She started cleaning houses and she did this for a long time but she saved all of the her money mainly and she donated so much money to like african american and lesbian and gay organizations and she did this whole thing of where she archived stuff from her life and all the stuff about black lesbians that she could find and so she donated it to the gay and lesbian archive in new york. And so like she had this. She had this like crazy. Amount of lesbian pulp fiction that she gave them. She had all this memorabilia. She had all of these programs so people would understand what it was to be black in a black woman and lesbian and that time and she also yes also was a grand marshal for the pride parade in new york in one thousand nine hundred five. She was yeah she She spoke and nineteen eighty-four. Like yeah she was. She was brilliant woman with there's something different about bringing like playing her because of other characters you were playing historically gotta be a bit of a weight to them because they're not freely themselves even when you talk about her the lifts celebratory like out when you think about her. She was herself. She walked in the room with her coat on her hat on and she was she was ready to present. I love i have played people that are keeping part of themselves away from the world is a complex wonderful challenge to it does make you have to think about all the things that you hide from yourself when you hide from the world and puts you in that mindset so you can be present in that space but it is freeing when you get a chance to play someone that has just fully themselves and they're able to accept themselves and the elevate your spirit and it helps to be more free as being. Yeah oh yeah. I ve a series. I play a character called sergio several times in the option pain in the movies. Yeah and sergio is just like i love surgery because he's so gay to the ground and it just so freeing to place someone who just like. He's not the joke. Everybody the joke is around him like he's joe. Y'all the joke right like it. Just is so great civility permission to get to honor someone that is of like just so freeing and even when i never played the historical. I said that wasn't for like laughs. only played like real people for like sketch comedy or something. You know what. I will say that even playing like a regular person playing someone who is fictional. But they've been weight which ones made up is fiction nonfiction. I get those words fixed rate up. Yes yeah. I looked a big little person. I still feel like i'm like i am channeling. Someone stories this a story that has happened like a like. Come into this body here. Let me tell your story. Yeah because any story that you can tell any story that can be written. It's happened to somebody at some level and you have to be truthful. You have to come into the moment present and ready to you. Know to be to be them. Yeah so for sure for sure whether you're doing someone who's been around or who's lived before that we know of the name and they have a history of or you're playing someone that's fictional. You're still having to play them real. You're still having to think again examined. The bodies as viola davis side. And then she like when you are playing these parts and these roles were resurfacing these stories and also goes back to what we were talking about me. This is part of the truth and reconciliation. And as a part of burying witness sue people stories and to build a how a different way of creating empathy and understanding and seeing someone else's journey. Like you are doing the work when you're playing these characters in these parts. I wanna give you all the snaps when you do this before we go what. Who's next on your list. Who is the next person you would like to play. Ooh i john. I never think about it just sort of comes to you the ones that come to your way you know you know how i am. You know. it has to be about something. It has to have the ability to change people's minds it has to have important asset value. Like anything like. That is the stuff that i'm i'm drawn to. So i put that out there in the universe in the universe brings me these people that need to have their story expressed through me. So i who ever wants whoever wants to come. You know what your story told by me. i'm ready tirade. You heard it first. So that's why you're getting cast in must be like an a wonderful important historical character or must be an undercurrent of some message that needs to get out by us so tara reade This is how you cast mushroom so rodgers ready for masha as much ready there. You have it but before we close out. Let's get into the fact check just one or two things that came up. I had mentioned about the papa. John's founder and how he will not be these sponsor of maggio's mushroom tirade. We got to look for somebody else because yeah he definitely the founder definitely use the n. Word on a conference called yeah. I'm pretty sure that's a scratching the surface so that's enough to not renew his contract. Certainly the read. I think the answer is drugs is that were coming back to her post. That's what it was drags. I think my favorite part is when she's telling the kidman all the people that she's casting in this movie and she also goes ed me ta read no set tirade. We we know you can just send me. We know it's you. You're writing this thing. Oh okay let's week comes from at erica lynn. Drawl 's they wrote minority corner just finished episode to seventy eight. I had never heard of the artist's way but i immediately bought it after listening. Justed by first morning pages and excited to see how this goes. congratulations. You are so in for such a powerful year so glad that you're going to jump into this recommend to everybody. Great christmas gift gift to yourself the artist's way do it will do a little minority corner kids Artist's way. you're you know all right. Well we're going to get out of your big things to sarah. Brown are magical wonderful editor. 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What Level Of Sin Are You At?

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What Level Of Sin Are You At?

"We've hit over ten million cova cases in the united states. What's it like. When you're extra sitting popstar kazzee. David shared her side of the day. And pete davidson saga and herself. Daphne maxwell reid is talking to us about the fresh prince of bel-air reunion the november twelfth. Two thousand and twenty the time. Hello friends i'm casey rackham stafford buzzfeed's news o'clock zach. I have one and only one thing to talk to you about today. I will sign off of the show right afterwards. Because it's all i care about is the real housewives of salt lake city. I'm so glad you bring this up because my phone has been blowing up with people asking me if i've watched it. I had not yet. But casey i think you have right. Oh i watched it last night as soon as i could. You know one anything new during this like quarantine game for like i need something new in my life and i was like super excited about this because i've never been to solve Salt lake city. But like these previews have been like very mormon heavy and just like. I'm interested to see like this site into a different very rich and religious culture that is happening on there. I just wanna give a little taste of it. All you need to know is that there is one woman named mary who married her step grandfather because it was written into her. Grandmother's will that she'd do so. That is messy. I'm watching the show immediately. that is so sneaky. I what's so amazing about this show. Is that. I just was in salt lake city recently as i drove cross country and i've gone to salt lake city. A bunch you know park cities right in south salt. Lake city's sundance a lot of us in journalism. Have to go there. But it is a very conservative place. Utah deeply read deeply mormon and the real housewives of salt lake. City seems very ratchet and like these are not living by mormon ideals. It's a split situations you do meet some people. There's some people that are that are more men. There are some people that are have been excommunicated because of a divorce which was crazy because she's fourth generation mormon because someone in her family used to be the bodyguard for young like the man himself. I know so. And then you've got some people who are jewish than someone who is jewish and converted to mormonism. It is all over the place but is divide of like you know. Do you drink do not drink. What level of sinner you at So is truly wild. And i listened for anyone and here and we have news to get to but i hear. There is a gay person on the show credible because gave in mormonism. Don't really go together a lot. It is andy he that family is hilarious to watch. They really did. Give me shits creek vibes. Because i think they either came from chicago or new yorker one one of those cities and are now in utah. So it's like a culture shock and they some semi don't fit in and i love it. Love it love it. Well i will tune in and we can talk about it more. Okay yes but you know. We should get to news the news. What's going on zach okay. So cases continued to spike across the us. And we've now hit over ten million cases. So does that mean. We're headed for lockdown again. Here's what dr fauci appearing on. Abc's good morning america today. I don't know we would like to stay away from that robin because there is no appetite for locking down on the american public. But i believe that we can do it without a lockdown. I i really do. I mean sometimes when people talk about the measures that i'm suggesting we double down on the equivocate. That and say that. Well that that makes that not a lockdown. It isn't necessarily locked and you could still get businesses going. You could still have economic Full with thinking while you're doing that you don't have to shut everything down. Hopefully we won't have to do that if we can do. The public health measures. We wouldn't have to do that. Those measures include things. We've been told over and over again. Wash your hands. Don't congregate in large settings especially not endorsed where a mask but some states are forging ahead with new restrictions. For example. new york is putting a curfew back in place for restaurants and gyms. Meanwhile president-elect biden has named ronald clean as his chief of staff. If you're wondering who this guy is. He used to be president obama's ebola czar and this assessment. He gave about kobe on. Msnbc in february. it's pretty spot on the american people. Don't need to hear from donald trump or mike pence about the corona virus. They need to hear from the experts who know the facts who know what's happening but the vice president pence should be doing or whoever else is brought into work on. This should be speeding up our response. Our response is too slow. We are not getting hospitals ready. We're not getting testing kits deployed. We are not doing the double time work. We should be doing to be getting ready for the inevitable. And this line of thinking preceded that interview in an op-ed from january for the atlantic titled krona viruses. Coming in trump isn't ready. Clean noted quote five presidents liberals and conservatives democrats and republicans have looked to tony for advice. It's not impossible to imagine trump being the first to angrily dismissed the council. He offers if it does not fit with his own. Poor instincts. A president who calls generals babies cowards will have to sit face to face with experience global health security professionals and listen he will have to put his isolationist biases anti-science mind set aside and expertise has personal inclinations or the political whims of his base got. Us policy he will have to trust. Bureaucrats diplomats career staff in agency appointees who are not team. Mega and finally georgia will proceed with hand counting ballots since they've been asked for a recount. Why are they hand counting well. Let's get georgia secretary of state. Brad rapids burgers take speaking to. Cnn is in state law that we had to do a statewide on this year. A we have new voting machines with a verifiable paper ballot prior to this year. We had the old dr electronic voting systems without a paper about so. This was one of the things that was in house. Bill three sixteen so we're doing a statewide audit. We had to pick a statewide race. Which the presidential race. We understand the national significance of this race. And it's also very close within fourteen thousand without thought. This was a most objective. Wave of really picking a doing audit for some race. That really mattered. Most states will need to certify the results by the end of november and typically recounts triggered a candidates lead is at or under one percentage point president trump has said he would seek a recount in wisconsin and his lawsuits in michigan pennsylvania in georgia to stop the count of votes altogether. Have been dismissed. I mean at this point. It's just putting on a show because when you talk about the history of recounts we're talking about like a difference of four hundred to five hundred votes. You know right. Now we've got biden has a fourteen thousand plus lead. It's just not gonna be a different outcome than what had already is. It is this is an extraordinary measure being taken by the white house which has been a theme for the past four years of extraordinary measures in the face of historical accuracy and it is only historically accurate that recounts usually only matter when it is if you enter it. Votes as you've noted but in this case joe biden does lead many more thousand votes than trump does many the same state. So it's a very special situation but we will keep tracking here for our akc so get us up to speed on everything. Entertainment and pop culture. Well if you thought you've heard every possible angle on the peak. David arianna 'grande relationship. And then break up. You are extremely kazzee. David is detailing her side of the story. In her new memoir. And to be honest. I'm probably going to buy this book based on everything. I've already heard about it in case you didn't know. Cassie is pete's ex. They broke up right before he started dating. Arianna she's also a comedian writer and producer end. Oh yes she's the daughter of larry. David that's very important to know for the story. In her memoir. No one asked for this. Kazzee describes her relationship with pete as both tencent unstable after she finally built up the nerve to initiate a break. She regretted it. Pete did not just a day after they officially broke up. He started dating the world's most famous popstar and began covering up his tattoos. He had dedicated to cassie kazzee. Wrote that when she found out she was on the way to her sister's graduation and spent the entire plane rides shaking in her father's arms. She was so devastated that she woke up screaming in her hotel room. And then the one and only larry. David comforted her with these words. And i quote kazzee come on your ancestors survived the holocaust. She says that things got worse when rem. His fans began bullying her mind writing that it was hard to stop imagining them quote immediately falling in love accompanied by audio of her baby voice whispering. Sweet nothings in his ear dubbed over his past declarations of love and trust to me. Those words are very dad centric. I am jewish but like what our thing to remind yourself of perspective and always situation. Yeah that is such a deadline to have. Especially larry david i will say. I do like the candor of which has. He's talking about this the title of her memoir which is no one asked for this. Because she's right. No one did ask for this and she does address like how privileged she is. But i think like with that you know take on it. I'm i'm okay with it. I'd like to read this book. And i also think that i read that where she was talking to her dad of something along the lines of like. Oh man are you embarrassed me where i'm like someone that we would make fun of now and i think that is like you know that self-awareness is part of her humor. Just like her dad's so yeah. And i love both of them. I guess as artists in public figures are really good at giving kind of an inside look of the interior authority of their circumstances and while it is incredibly privileged place to be. I'm very interested in like the child of a very famous actor. Being in a love triangle with pete davidson at oriented 'grande. Who's writing songs about everything. Like this is incredible content. There are a lot of big names. And i want to know about it. I've got time on. My hands are in a pandemic. I have time. I consider thank you. I read it during commercial. Breaks of salt lake city. All right when we come back. We've got daphne maxwell reid aka bid from the fresh prince of bel-air stay right there. Hey there use o'clock producer here. So the fact is more than one hundred nine million americans experienced cybercrime last year and victims spent more than five hundred million hours trying to resolve their issues. I should know my wife was one of them. Someone opened an account in her name that went to collections and we only found out when we applied for a mortgage total nightmare. And it can be hard to know how to help. Protect your online privacy and identity in today's connected world. Luckily there's norton three sixty with lifelock. It provides seamless protection for your digital life. 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Great so happy to have you here. Thank you for the invitation. Of course so people have been asking for this to happen for years and years. Why did you decide to do it now. I didn't decide. Ask will said would you to join me. And celebrate the thirtieth anniversary of the first airing of fresh prince of bel-air and i was brilliant enough not to say no. So what can we expect to see. You can expect to see a reunion of the entire cast and you can expect to see that. They are kind of big fun time. The only laughs and will be tears. They'll be dancing. They'll be stories even the ones that we had never heard before they'll meet surprise guests. They'll be it'll be a blast. It will it was a fabulous day or two of shooting. And i hope in the editing came out as much fun as we had doing it. And what's really exciting about you. All getting back together is that you seem pretty close knit group of people like your good friends still and i have to know. Is there any concern when you guys were getting together that you'd feel like wait. We've talked about these things a million times before. Why do we need to talk about a begin. Absolutely not no. We learned a lot of new stuff that we had never spoken about and we heard some stories from each of us that the others had never heard so it was a great time to share lots of things. Not just rehash things with the talking about it. I have to do you. guys have a group tax. Is there a group chat for the belair. Cast that you have going on. No we have individual email addresses. We don't go for blasting essay. Tell me do you guys ever wished the show had gone on a little longer. Like maybe another season or do you think it ended at the right time it ended when it was supposed to end the i'd never wish for anything different when you get lightning in a bottle. It has a beginning a middle and an end to end. We were lucky enough to have been informed that the last year was going to be the last year so that you could prepare for whatever you wanted to do. After the season was over. It wasn't like they came and told you At the last episode. Well you're not coming back. We didn't have that problem. We knew that it was going to be the last episode. We played to it and we develop the story lines to go with it as well. Speaking of those storylines if it had been extended. Would there have been anything you wanted to tackle or see something fun or emotional. I wasn't in the creative in birkir. I just i just said that what we know. There's a segment in the reunion. Were will smith clear era with your predecessor. Janet hubert whitten us. Does it feel good for the rest of the cast to have this issue. Resolved put to bed on the special. I'm sorry but you'll have to ask them. I never met the woman. So when i joined the cast they never spoke of it. A didn't deal with the past. They started from the day. I got there forward. So this show fresh prince and euro on it has meant so much to so many people. I could imagine you get a lot of fans coming up to you when you're out and about but i imagine. Thanks get even crazier when you're out with husband tim reid who is an amazing actor known for so many. Iconic growth and who a lot of us millennials. No is ray from sister sister. Do you get a lot of whoa at vivid mary to ray well. A lot of people are surprised at that in it. It's like such an old story. You didn't know there when we're out together. They usually recognize him and is a bigger star than me like. Oh and you're you. What i'm out by myself if i'm not in full drag makeup and hair. Nobody knows but i feel like you probably will be getting recognized more now. I mean this show is about to come at the reunions. Coming out also. Sister sister is back on netflix. And in currently trending so like you two are both big stars on the internet right now and if we had some place to go maybe we'd get record fair fair fair. Fair is before we let you go. We have to doe the going to come out and a lot of us are going to love it already but you know after this. Do you think there's gonna be some more. Specials will be one offs kinda like the brady bunch did after they did their reunions bats. Another west will swing a. I'd love to go to work anytime anybody calls. They've got a new program that they're starting now will is working with a young director on a new fresh prince. But it's dramatic version and batch be really exciting. That's going to be on the e cockney work but i'll be around. I got christmas movie coming on after this soon. I got other projects in the works. So we'll be seeing am bill even if she isn't We love well. Thank you so much for joining us. Today it's been a pleasure. Be well one more thing. Interviewing is kind of hard. We prepare a lot for our own interviews in advance sometimes days in advance and occasionally we get nervous. Especially if it's a big name going forward let us all channel the power that led a pow drake had while interviewing actors in the seventies and eighties on nebraska public. Tv a bit of background on letta. She's in the nebraska broadcasters hall of fame and the nebraska press women's hall of fame. So she's kind of a very big deal. Let's let her rip this morning. You got to work with burton richard. Burr yes i did always did speak russell. Is he still alive. Kurt you've done some pictures you've done some stinkers really i you know. She is a possibility model for me. Because casey you know this very well to when you are interviewing people especially very very famous people that we hear her doing in the seventies and eighties. You are publicist getting away. They very much a kind of like Helping steer where the conversation goes on what you cannot say. She was like screw it. We're asking all the questions that everyone that's messy wants to ask. And she goes for it yet. She she cut. It reminds me like if my mom or someone who doesn't really know the gravity of these actors just kind of like sees them as normal people and she's just like yeah. So what's the deal with yoga. That frankness is hilarious. Because you usually see these polished interviews and she literally sometimes straight up as people if they think they're good actor which is why it's been credible. She's kind of a which he reminds. Me of is like jimmy. Kimmel or david letterman who are all comedians but like people who are trained in broadcast journalism are trained in a very certain way where you don't do things like that and maybe be more entertaining and these celebrities. Get on their toes. Say undertows in a away so we we stand. I saw someone on twitter saying that this would be the perfect role for lisa kudrow. Hard young is very much chaos. She's very that chaos. So this is chaotic. 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Midnight Train To The Senate

What A Day

22:51 min | 2 months ago

Midnight Train To The Senate

"It's tuesday november seventeen. I'm and i'm getting interesting. And this is what a day will. We're finally getting over. Not being featured on obama's playlist. Like i definitely think that we could have been featured right between sir duke by stevie wonder and lose yourself by him but fine. Those are the energies that we bring. I think writings middle middle pocket. There zeh show what to know about the candidates running in georgia's runoff then some headlines but first the latest you spoke about the need to access the outgoing administrations kovic vaccine distribution plans. What do you see as the biggest threat to your transition right now. Given president trump's unprecedented attempt to obstruct and delay a smooth transfer of power. More people may die. If we don't coordinate. Look as my chief of staff. Ron claim would say handleable vaccines import of little use until you're vaccinated. So how do we get the vaccine. How do we get over. Three hundred million americans vaccinated. That was president. Elect joe biden talking about the challenges involved in vaccine distribution as well as the trump administration's lack of cooperation with his transition team at the moment. The upcoming months are likely to be devastating in terms of the pandemic but there was another piece of very good news yesterday on vaccine development. That is right. So madonna and that an initial analysis of its vaccine found. It was ninety. Four point five percent effective which is amazing. This comes a week. After pfizer's initial announcement of their own vaccine said in its trials which involved giving people v vaccine and others a saltwater placebo ninety five participants had contracted covid nineteen with five of them being people who were vaccinated and the other ninety being those who got that placebo. They also said that there were eleven severe cases which were all in the placebo group. Now it's a good sign. If none of the vaccine people got severe covid here overall they had thirty thousand people enrolled by the end of october. According to the new york times they ended up with thirty seven percent enrollment from communities of color and forty two percent from high risk populations. That's due to age or other health factors as was the case with pfizer. The fact that the pandemic is so fundamentally out of control in the united states seem to speed trial process along. Madonna has said that they want to complete the trial before applying for authorization from the fda in now they're ceo is actually saying that could happen in the next seven to ten days which is nuts and that raises the prospect that there could maybe be to vaccines cleared for use on a limited basis by the end of the year. It is a shoe christmas miracle and we know that with both of these companies. The information came out and press releases of interim analyses which means we're not seeing all the data and they're still more data to collect so it's not entirely conclusive yet. Yeah for sure. I mean the other piece of potential good news though again is if these numbers hold is the way in which both these vaccines restructured. So modern adviser relied on a new way to build vaccines out of what's called messenger or a. I am not a scientific person. But i understand it to mean that genetic material that is basically instructing the body on how to defend against the coronavirus. Say that's a positive sign for other vaccine vaccines that rely on similar technology. And this new tech if you will could be vital in creating vaccines for other infectious diseases beyond the questions. Though about whether the effectiveness is going to change as this study goes on there are other things. researchers are still curious about. How long will the immunity from maderna's vaccine and others last is it as effective across all age groups. And if you don't have symptoms. Does it actually help decrease infectiousness. Well one of the things people were talking about in regards to pfizer vaccine is the challenge of keeping it cold for storage and transportation. What's the word. I'm maderna's vaccine when it comes to that so as i understand it maderna's vaccine is also going to need to be stored in cold temperatures but something like negative four degrees fahrenheit versus negative. Ninety four for visor. Quite a big difference but madonna is also seeming to try to get the upper hand on by saying that they're researchers found. That vaccine can have a shelf life in a normal raider for up to a month and for twelve hours in room temperature. And that led some experts that maderna's vaccine could actually end up being the one better suited for pharmacies. Doctors offices even potentially more rural areas in the country where logistics are more challenging. All right so let's say everything goes well here. Most of these vaccines could get authorized in the coming weeks or so. How many doses do we really expect by the end of the year. Yes so madonna has been saying that they can produce twenty million doses by the end of the year advisor has the deal with the us for another twenty or so million because both vaccines would require two doses. Though that comes out to about twenty million people in the us that would be able to get vaccinated by the end of the year. It's possible then that younger healthier adults could start getting vaccines around next april which still would be a remarkable and truly truly welcome achievement. So we'll stay on top of all that of course but in other news we have been talking quite a bit lately about the two senate runoffs in georgia so we thought it would be a good idea to discuss the candidates and the actual races in a little more detail. There's kelly loftier versus raphael warnock. David purdue versus jon ossoff. So let's start with this laughlin. Warnock grace all right so kelly. Leffler is the republican incumbent. Our listeners will probably remember her for selling off millions of dollars in stock after a closed-door senate briefing about front of ours back january law said she was unaware of the trades and she under win an ethics investigation which found that she didn't break any senate rules interesting. But there was a outcry that she promised to divest from all of her individual stock holdings which good senate rules should be stricter. This was obviously a major issue for her. In this race was actually the first time she was facing voters since she was appointed to hurston senate seat after the previous george. Senator retired last year. If this show was logger. I would tell you even more horrendous shit about lafler. We didn't even get into her whole yellow face ad but lastly just to give you a sense of her politics. She's a trumpy often talks about her. One hundred percent voting record with the president that extends to his current delusion about the election so she and purdue have both back. Trump's refusal to concede and baselessly claimed that there were election failures in georgia which undermines republicans in the state who actually ran the election. That's right yeah. And there are some republicans now chattering about the fact that all of this in fighting back and forth with trump also being added governor camp and others the state is messing things up for them and not letting them have a focused message against the democrats. I love it. And speaking of which yesterday georgia's secretary of state. Brad raffin burger. Who's overseeing the hand recount in the state. When on the record with the washington. Post to say that senator lindsey graham and other republicans have been pressuring him to question. The validity of legal. Votes in one instance. He says graham asked him whether he had the power to throw out. All mail ballots encounters with higher rates of non matching signatures which just crime in public now. Yeah i mean it's sort of like imagine the senator from new york senator schumer calling the secretary of state in texas and being like. Hey man. is it cool if we just toss these ballots like that's how much different is that anyway. Let's talk about democrat raphael warnock. Who's running against loftier. He actually got more votes than her november third but that was partly because republicans split their vote between law flair and another republican in that race historically to this is what runoffs have been designed for potentially deluding the black vote after a general election. So a win on its own is just not enough right. And a little background on warnock. He's originally from georgia. He grew up in public housing. He became a pastor at atlanta's historic ebenezer. Baptist church which you probably know as martin luther king's church He also chaired the new georgia project. One of the grassroots organizations that worked to register new voters and flip. The state blew this year. We're not is a major advocate for medicaid expansion as well as protecting voting rights. We also know from his campaign ads that he likes dogs and dogs like him right back anyways laughlin and do are now attacking weren't often ossoff and saying that if they win a democratic senate would pave the way for socialism which is kind of an awkward message though since laughlin and purdue are also claiming that trump could still win the presidency so following their logic. It's confusing why. The senate needs to be the last line of defense at all. Yes exactly why there are some people in the party. Getting a little bit annoyed here. So let's talk quickly about the purdue also freeze purdue's been in office since two thousand fourteen before that he was the ceo of dollar general. Our listeners might remember him as the asshole who thought it would be fun to mispronounce kamla name at a trump rally in october. He backs trump's mishandling of the pandemic is still out on climate change and has voted to repeal the aca like law flare. He also bought and sold a bunch of stock before the market crash due to the pandemic this year but was also cleared by a senate investigation. super interesting for us off. This is his second big. George election in two thousand seventeen. He lost a special election. Runoff georgia's sixth house district which is traditionally read atlanta suburban district. That race came just after trump had won. The presidency was the most expensive house race in history and also came within just a few percentage out the republican but ultimately just couldn't snag the seat in two thousand eighteen though democrat. Lucy macbeth one the district on a message of gun control. Yes so lots of money is also expected to flow into these runoffs and a lot of attention and organizing with it and it seems like republicans want to not piss off the trump voters which kind of inherently nationalizes it and then some democrats are nervous. That too much money and attention also nationalizes it in a way. That may not be helpful. No one really knows what's going to happen here. But what do we know about how this is going so far all right well. We know a lot of grassroots organizing still taking place in georgia so with biden winning the state it's been super encouraging groups like fair fight action new georgia project and black voters matter fund that they've been working for years to register in engage new voters and they're working to keep up the momentum. You know turn people out and even get people who are just turning eighteen years old to vote. According to estimates there are over twenty thousand seventeen year olds will become eligible in time for the runoff. Which could make a difference. Considering biden won the state by around fourteen thousand votes plus or minus you know depending on the final recount. So we've put a link in our show notes about how to support organizers on the ground in georgia we'll dive into more in the coming days and weeks but that's the latest for now her it's tuesday wad squad and today we're talking about. Tv shows coming back again. A fresh prince of bel-air union comes out on. Hbo max this thursday and it looks good. Here's a clip. There will always be a piece of all of us in that liberty our show excellent to keep all the excellence was the way that we love each other. I couldn't celebrate thirty years of rush. Press without cannon. So janet that will smith is referencing. There is janet hubert the first actress to play an move who was recast. After three seasons reunion will feature both at which is what. I call movie magic of giddy. We've had a lot of s reboots and reunions year. What ninety sitcom reunions do. You still wanna see. Did they do a seinfeld one. They did right. They did like a sort of. I don't know. I mean that's probably like the easy answer right like i do. Those people are all still basically around. I don't really know is is richard's like kind of persona non grata at this point. Who's 'em like i. I'm assuming that richards is a person from the show dot com. He's played kramer guy. Yeah that guy sucks louis. Ck obviously they wouldn't invite to come back right. That's i yeah. I i think like. He's he's basically out of the mix but that that would be fun. You know like a post pandemic return to the diner etc. We get some new york stuff going on. Jail is still is even more in her prime now so that would be. That's a complaint. Saint question view akilah. What ninety sitcom or are you thinking about in my initial feeling is like family matters. Obviously you know. Got to check in ercole. We got to see scott. Laura you know. Check out the whole family talk about. Maybe if carl has some regret speaking up to twenty but if not that as we were talking i'm like i know this isn't a sitcom but i would love for there to be like a power rangers reunion wanna know what's up on unfortunately with mighty morphin there are also some cast members. That are no longer with us. namely tree near the ranger. But i think that. Like i wanna hear about what they're up to like do after that. Also i'm just curious general about berringer's like how do you prepare that that i don't know man also add their look is kind of a covert. Look you know it would translate pretty easily. They got helmets situations going on they could be in environments where the pandemic is not really a concern to them they fighting the pandemic as a unit. Just i love that. Well you know what just like. That'd be checked. Our temps stay safe. If you're a power ranger i hope. Sparks fly when you kicked covert in the face and we'll be back after some ads. 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Its All About Growth ( Jeezy Interview and more)

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Its All About Growth ( Jeezy Interview and more)

"Get ready to laugh and learn. I'm nick smith. I am flame when the road. I am he. He cashed the check. She makes them money. We spend it laughing. Learn as a weekly podcast bringing you the latest headlines keeping you politically informed mixed in with the little pop culture. You never know what you're going to hear subscribe and listened to laugh and learn on the iheartradio app or apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen. Podcast on september seventeenth two thousand nine twenty four year old my trees. Richardson disappeared without a trace. In the woods. Near malibu california and was never seen alive again. I'm katherine townsend. Host hosted the podcast helen gone. We're going to try to find out what really happened in my trace. Richardson school humans in iheartradio present. Helen gone season three. Listen to helen. Gone on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts up and charlemagne got the practice club pitch voice of the culture. The wash records look like news and really being tuned in. It's one of my favorite shows until just because you always keep you honey job. He'd be real news but they're they're on facebook. They're you know they're listening to the breakfast. Good morning. usa. You're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo good morning ambi charlemagne guy through the planet is friday. Hey yeah that. Is friday. The friday before a holiday week friday before we go tonight after versus. Feel like you've been in the club on it. Yes i feel like three in the morning party and your azoff man definitely does tactics club. It was amazing versus last night. I give them around with applause. I thought it was great dropping bombs. Gdn gucci. i think it was great. I mean they had waiting about what forty five fifty minutes but that was cool though those two legends condemned. I just thought it was great. Magic city set up Perfect perfect perfect perfect atmosphere for managing city. Stacey abrams Started started the battle took a lot of people thought that was a little awkward. But i like. I like when world's collide you know what i mean like i i wanna see i want i want. I want us to start like Making those people to stars people like stacey abrams. You know what i'm saying. People like to make the world like you know we even letting the rapper than the athletes and everybody leave for a long time. So i think we need to start using our platform to shine some light on. Jesus christ you flip this whole state. Blew help flip the whole state. Luke got a new president because of you know have elections coming up. Forget that moldable. Yeah people will get out there and vote. I like it. I just don't i thought the battle was dope. Go back and forth. The music sounded great coochie was being coochie gotta love. Jesus was being. I mean and it was so many records that they could've played that they didn't play both left on the table. They both live a lot on. Gbd's if you had to go back and forth. i mean. They had so many hints when they did perform the last song together. So it's over the they still have so many so many jeez one of my top seven favorite rappers of all time. It's catalogue amazing. I who mix tapes creatures watching trapper die into tm one on one inspiration recession team. One three phenomenal phenomenal bodies. And they had one point. Eight million people instagram live. I thought they cracked at one point. did they. I didn't see cracking to. Because i know they show it on like apple also is that was just instagram live. Cumulative later like like in a couple of days you'll have all the total number. No apple watching on the phone play up to apple experiences and the crab you're watching it on. Tv is a real event. Now i did watch it on. Tv really hope. The moment leads to like some real handling for of both jesse and gucci man. Because you say what you want. That's a traumatic experience that happened. You know what i'm saying. The beef that led up to you know what what happened that night. You know god bless the dead. Like dad Yeah now that was traumatic. Experience would be for both of those individuals. Yeah you living with that hurt. You live with that pain for a long time on both sides. Yeah and there was some young dumb stuff. You know what i mean next. Yeah but somebody's gone because of its. Just pray to god that you know what they say lease stays right there that they leave it right there on that stage and i want them to go on tour together. I think that's what i think. That's what the players. I think the play is they are to go on untold. World opens back up. And i think that yeah absolutely if if they get to a real place of healing letting last night might have been start. I love and i love him. Gucci said thank you for extending the olive branch. I accept it. You know what. I mean that that was big mr jenkins that olive branch and his bigger for gucci accepted and can be in the same place and do that but go on tour together. I mean because that was about the money because they feel lack of money probably more money they ever made on toy those to go with each other and add to into a trap the trap told you know what i mean kings of trap or something like that. They don't even have to ads. They can just go on their own gucci and they they don't need any daughters put on into the only thing with tip is is. How do you know typical open up for him. I wonder about ten one about tips. Tip temperament though i mean gucci tip got is some things out as well. I don't think tip would have handled that as well as tip would have handed that as well as easy and you gotta give a round of applause for rail because he was calm any which way was prepared like. I think everybody knew that you know one person was to get disrespectful. I feel like cheesy was prepared for that period. Yeah but even still no matter how much you prepare that that was that was harsh last night because we just wasn't the song it was the everywhere going on this morning we got a whole show would have been able to hold that. Something's i well as news what we talking about well. Let's talk about georgia. They have confirmed biden's victory and after an investigation no widespread fraud. Today's his birthday to he's ninety seven years old. Go hunting. Everybody is tj envy lee. Showing me the guy. We are the breakfast club. Skin some front page news where we start. Well let's start with georgia. They finish their statewide audit of the presidential race and biden. Still be trump by twelve thousand. Two hundred eighty four votes. They said Georgia's historic first. Statewide audit reaffirm that the state's new secure paper ballot voting system accurately counted and reported results. They actually had to confirm everything by today and certify. Their election results said an they were more than fifty eight hundred uncounted votes that were uncovered which was fourteen hundred. Donald trump who said the discoveries were proof of wrongdoing which is wrong and they said this is just really caused by human error. It's not indicative of fraud or vote rigging or anything and actually account for a certain amount of results that would be the expected margin of human error. Nobody thought otherwise right. We all pretty much knew that You know joe biden had one george. I thought it was crazy because trump was acting like he was a reelection last night he was tweeting about the gd gucci battle. Trying to get georgia on us. I that was wild right now. The governor of georgia. Brian camp has until five pm saturday to sign the paperwork. That officially grants those votes to biting man. God brian kim's family okay. Trump might have somebody tied up in a basement from brian. Kim smith right now. Okay telling him to make the right decision right i right. In the united states has reported one hundred eighty seven thousand eight hundred and thirty three new coronavirus cases on thursday. That's the highest one day total since the pandemic began. So everybody's getting ready for the holidays but they are recommending that you do not travel for thanksgiving and don't travel would not travel not go to dinners even locally. They don't want nobody. I think more than six people in the crib with seven people in the house. I know they shut down new york city public schools. I know i if you go to college if you were in school. Let's say if you go away if you go home for thanksgiving you might as well stay until january because you've got to quarantine fourteen days and then you know you have your winter recess. So it's a lot going. Please be safe as opposed to jersey. My daughter's who had a case on it is some type of contact tracing and somebody was close to some on your school. Marquess coastal open. All right well that is front. Page news get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one five. Let's talk did you see the battle last night where we thoughts. You got things to get off your chest. You feel good. You want to send some positivity around whatever may be call us up as the breakfast club. Good morning the breakfast club and get it off your chest. Your manner blends we want to hear from you to breakfast blow. Hello who's this be used to. North carolina was broken. It off your chest. I just wanted to congratulate to your brother last night on that piece that they can't oh man. I love seeing that. And i just wish my little cousin that died he loved enthusi- seen beat same club the fate that all the time better. So yeah. I don't think people understand. How monumental that was last night because i think a lot of people really truly don't know the history of either one of them brothers you know especially if you weren't down south but what laugh. What we saw last night was extremely monumental and i really hope believe. There's some real healing between both of them absolutely needed. And i hope that young and his young generation watch that and motto and just like a brighter light at the end of the tunnel may be together lived writing. Take one no. Let's get let's get to some in word stuff. I gotta say. I agree what it would be. Play the reagan indeed so it was like everybody else. The girl you know i you said i love ya. Thank you ms johnny double know. Thank you bro. I mean they both have marketing minds. And i can both see them going on tour. I can see them doing a mix tape for our to set up that at that tour you got to add to the reason you gotta add tip. Is you know even though half black population is down south. Like you wanna take that tall more than just the south right. I mean they can do anywhere but the problem. We don't even know how the records i know all records and i know oliver gucci. Okay says she didn't know a lot of them but i know most of jesus. Where do you put tipping. That category tip can't open up for ti jisi. I mean i who would be the one another when they can go back and forth and go solar for solar for solar. They do icy. That will be. Don't they can do a best of all traps like can't see. I've got a close. They're hoping i said he can't switch nights two different nights easy come out first one night. Gucci tip rotate. Hello who's this. The mind is cana qualifer eastern pennsylvania off your chest. I wanted to talk about the battle a little bit for me. I think it started also mean thing you could tell that Jesus was in his element. He was cool. Calm collective by gucci. He was like On edge from start he doesn't sit down at one time. i just think that's him now. I don't i don't i don't i don't think so. I think he came to came for. The mets noticed when he hit below the belt when he played that song that was real below to bell and jesus school has but let him know what it was like. If you wanna come up here and except my olive branch. Like don't do me like that. And i think that was uncalled for his part. He did not have the play that that's disrespectful me. I think he dealing with a lot of trauma who don't hang up. I don't know if you think one. She said she said it started off. Nice is funny you you read. Tmc caption is is the funniest welp gucci mane went there. He played truth his infamous distract boasting here from the white people. Many in walkaway from right now today. We don't wanna hear nothing y'all got to say about. Okay gesia middle. East immediately stood up but instead of charging gucci threatening violence. He hit back with a speech about why they were doing about it. It's just funny as hell. White person wrote recognition. 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I just wanted to say good morning. I wanted to give us that out to my boyfriend allen. Who's working right now. He's our workman. he treats me like a queen. Choose me rather than any man. That i've ever had four and Just to say hi to you guys. i called. I tried calling in yesterday. And i tried emailing. The of bc changed for edgy dot com. It was a website. It wasn't an email. Yeah i miss. I miss her. I matured announcement on the radio. So i missed my shot but if our true indeed last night i did not. I was working. Okay yeah look. Put hundred dollars in cash sally. Hello this is from west philly van wesson making. A few tests are disappointed statement. I made it through the work week. Emmy i'm here at work now and I also wanna just sit back and reflect are really been blessed during this pandemic. A are kept my job. I mean i started my own clothing line out this joint. So i'm just going to keep your head up and also i would like to plug my is g for my close allies. Call to our more as french for all love and it's two more clothing t. o. U. t. a. m. u. r. c. o. n. g. I mean y'all go check that out please and just keep your head up and be safe. I'll just join in charlotte. May you both row row. Yeah i mean. I know i've never heard of anything you know. You mean like a ball you have four precincts being. Thank you my john right. Thank you john. John like my g one five hundred right. You've got rooms underway Yes we are. Going to dispel some rumors that were floating around and that is about busey and also we'll be talking about nellie and dancing with the stars he's doing some big things there but we'll tell you what has on the table next in also jisi will be joining us this morning. We go kicking jeeze if you go talk to easy after last night's versus battle out right now i don't believe you now he's gonna talk to me. It's the breakfast club breakfast club. It's about socks this rumor on the breakfast club. Well despite the rumors busey is not getting his foot amputated after shooting getting shot in the leg. surgeons didn't remove his foot so people were saying that he was supposed to get his leg amputated all kinds of issues. But it's not true. Bob guccione diabetic. Things go bad situations like that happens. Yeah they did have to get together a diet to make sure he will be fine while under anesthesia. He ended up taking twenty four hours to decide if he even wanted the procedures done so fake news. His legs amputated. I right now. I don't know if you've been watching. Nellie on dancing with the stars but you know he got a perfect score from the judges the other night. What would you have to dance to. i was. I'm trying to remember where he was dancing to man. I remember But this because this was on monday and got a perfect score and He's actually gonna be going into the final round like we told you previously. But after all that he'll be acting again he'll be starring as rock and roll pioneer chuck berry in the upcoming buddy holly by opec broker now definitely from saint louis right on if he can pull it off though cannoli act. I never seen elian movie before. Before he can dance now. Them took buried up the hell of a role to play both from saint louis that mistaken so i write neo and crystal detailed their marriage proposal. That almost did not work out. The way They anticipated now. Neo had asthma christos friends for some help and he was going to bring the ring to him. And here's what he had to say on. Tv's behind every man. It was a homegirl of hers that knew the jeweler that i got the rings from so come and get the rain see. She won't see me. She won't know so she shows up but she's not from door so i answered the door and it's an acquaintance measure. She lives in texas. We were in florida outside. So you took li- the texas and how did you get upstairs. Oh you got me on the room. Whatever and i have a room on your floor your brakes you gotta put a lot of thought into that proposal. My brothers you know what i'm saying. That proposal means something you know. Well imagine some strange woman will not strange. But your friend shows up to where you are and you open the door. This is what happened when Crystal opened a door here. She had to say so. It turned into okay. Wait a minute you here for him. Okay what the hell is this. How when did when did y'all exchange numbers what the temperature rise in raza rising like. Oh damn no She she she was going. I don't lie well under pressure at all. And at that point i was full of adrenaline. So it was about to get physical. He kinda just intervened and lagaras means is just for pros with the ring. And i was like well. You could at least let me repeat thought it through tried to plan something. He at her show up to the house. Because chris the opened door. Like why's my friend here and was ready to fight because it looks suspicious. Oh that's even better. Don't you got that extreme high of almost up on. I'm here because like oh you know it's a good move right well. It did work Clearly all right well. I'm angela yee and that is your bloomberg report all right lot when we come back. We got front page news. Or we're talking about you. Let's talk about apple. They're going to be paying a hundred and thirteen million dollars. And we'll tell you why all right we'll get into that next key. Lock this the breakfast club. good morning. Hey hey morning. Everybody is tj envy. Angela yeesh alameda guy. We oughta breakfast club now. Jisi we'll be checking in in about five minutes from versus and we're gonna be kicking it with jisi right now. Let's get some front page news. What are we starting well. Let's start with apple. They have agreed to pay a hundred and thirteen million dollars to thirty four states. And that's because they were deliberately slow down older iphones to extend their battery life so now after an investigation an apple wasn't transparent about their battery problems and then they were unexpected device shutdown to give it to the states and let the people i think they you have to You ever get those. Notices in. The mail with lee can claim this money. Low class action lawsuit them not. It'd be like a dollar. You get a dollar ninety nine cents or two dollars and three cents. It'd be it'd be so low but well you better cash in internet dollar. Ira now manages tyson meat. Plant this is discussing. They had a betting pool on. How many of the workers would end up getting corona virus according to a lawsuit that so this the most managers at the facility. They started avoiding the plant floor because they were scared. They would get the virus this back in late march or early april and then while the virus was spreading on the meatpacking floor managers gave their duties to low level supervisor who had no management training no experience and then according to the suit the allegation is that the supervisors also cancelled safety meetings and then after learning about positive cases in the plant they told other supervisors to deny that these cases existed according to this lawsuit. All at the same time they were taking bets on how many people get sick and then they had a cash by in winner. Take all betting pool for supervisors and managers to how many employees with test positive. How awful is that. that's crazy. What was the point. What would lead to that. Landed him saying you know what let's bet on how many people get stupid. Humans are humans. Were going big but you know keep telling you on the n. Word angel just about color. All right that's tough right there. Yeah i just can't believe that these people's lives that we're talking about here to screen individuals. Ira and we know the holidays are coming up next week. And i do wanna tell you guys. The cases of corona virus again. We have had a record number one hundred eighty seven thousand in a single day. So that is the highest service that we've had thus far since the pandemic began so they are saying. Do not travel. If you don't have to just are advising against that. So i was planning to go away and i think i'm just not going to now because we'll be stuck. Yeah keep well no. You just got to keep us safe. I right well. That is your front page news. All right thank you miss ye. Now when we come back jisi will be joining us. Jay jenkins straight off his versus battle last night new project straight from the club last night's new album recession too. So we go talk to when we come back. So who is the breakfast locomotive. The breakfast club. You can get the world's most dangerous morning show morning. Everybody is tj envy. Angela laghi charlemagne the guy we all the breakfast club. We got a special guest on the law right now. Just finished the verses. Just finished it being in the club last night and now he's up with us. Jesus big snow ramon. Yeah being snow i. Do you know how you feel mona big snow. I'm and i'm just really just allow went on last night as far as just the album. Coming out Definitely verses in just running around just doing promos i ain't. I ain't came to grissom. None is all altogether is like a blur baby. Did you have a plan because you knew you knew a record he would play or you could assume a wreck. He was gonna place and what was the plane. I'm gonna plan. Was i fill. You know i. I my my my songs on my life. So you know we anybody in any orders few that way but like for me I knew what. I put my blood sweat and tears and the my music so i could have play any song like when the case but it just house gonna feel when when to see what type of emotions In rexburg backup the either one of us play. You know what i'm saying. It was more of a mental thing for me and it took a lot for me mentally. Because i'm in a place in my career like i am from the streets. You know what i'm saying. And i have done said a lot of things in I had to make a decision light. You know there's going to be about what i see going on. High can highlight contributing to then people understand like it's bigger than us. You know the goal was to get rich to take as far as you see. You know what was going on world they like that von dame touch me i did you know i know i know dirk wail in our actually proud of them it just like it was surreal to get that called him keys in babies. Who knows all right in ain't got to be that way you know what i'm saying. So what happened Imo three web and boosting edits as like a crazy weekend wasn't always day and happening just like damn you know real. You know what i'm saying. It's just like unselfish moment. You know i is is like a catch twenty two because you have some people like may could've put it like dog like i tell you like i'm rich. You know what i'm saying. I'm growing and i wanna see everybody. I wanna see all y'all to make the beat at a position like myself. I'm not gonna take them different so it was that you know it was real because i could've could've walked away and it could have been all bad right. You know people let me tell you. I'm proud of you. I'm i'm glad you didn't leave with ego last night. You didn't move off. Emotion you move to a strategy and like you said. You made a conscious decision to leave the to decide. Do you think last night will lead to a real moment of in between you and gucci. I do because as men. You know what i'm saying is that it's been going on almost a decade or two decades and it was a point where we you know we we was you know we we work. Who know what i'm saying. I just think everybody got in the middle of us and you know not just say what happened. Try to you know to the went on like me him. We'll have to figure out late on both for y'all like understand that the more and more and more and more goes on the worst is going to be because we like to the forefront of his so every anybody behind this think that's the way to go so as i for me. It just like you know we got to see you on heels on you know but that that was that was effort is like it's fun of the world like you know what i'm saying aiming for so you know rely just like you know. We both got to come to grips with that. You know what. I'm saying that we both got to really be men but bring the car how it happened. I know you came on a breakfast level week going. You said you know the first battle was supposed to you know you reached out to gucci. S was reach out to gucci and he respectfully declined and then those supposed to be the ti. So when did things change. How did that happen. I mean i'm to be honest with you. Like from what i hear he. He did respected decline. Which i respect. You know what i'm saying disobey and you know. I guess he looked at it. Way i look at it dislike your The nobody else they wanna see us wit in for once at least minimally it can be about music and on to you know instead of it just being mean him in our personal drillers like now. You've got the worldwide watson. So i feel like as a man i wasn't going you know not do it because of what happened. Because that's what the platform is four and i'm saying is like you get the referee it in in in in the peop- because look how big that was not even realize it into me away but look how big because it was more so you're glad to see me in the same room. He's got to happen and a and big whitt. We started twenty years ago. Fifteen years ago. How big it got to is almost like the whole world had to sit us down and blow which is going to And that wasn't the first time you gucci tried to reconcile over the years. I right i mean. We always got to the point. We we you know saying try you know mean but it just like responsibly. Now's like if you go back on your word in ages means you know somebody you know who's trying to figure it out is the whole world slowed me and just like we look crazy even going to eat away. And that's the whole thing. I gonna leave here in magic seat. Outsold medicine city because it was. It was legendary for me in a recipe. Dj nando like my whole career broke. When i was going spending my money and doing the things i was doing To get my career is started their. You know a lot of the things that happened with us started. You know what. I'm saying so. It was almost like we're going to is mutual. Is we both know it is. And we're gonna walking is men and we walk out his man or not. You know what. I'm saying him. Mo choices walkout man. And i feel like at the end of it. You know was the choice on both sides. Now they're worse disrespectful moments. So i wanted to ask you what was going on through your head. And how did you maintain your composure. Jesus let's answer that when we come back eight hundred five eight five one. Oh five one jisi is here album out right now straight off versus so we'll talk to when we come back. Is the breakfast club. Gamonal get ready to laugh and learn. I'm nick smith wrote i am. He cast check. She makes them money. We spend it laugh and learn as a weekly podcast bringing you the latest headlines. The infighting within the lgbt community is ridiculous baby about that rainbow in front check tobacco. Potholes thunderstorms gunshots. All that keeping you politically informed. Because that's what we do. 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I'm not in the same mental space as i was twenty years ago. And i know kinda let you take me there. You know what i'm saying. That would have been the biggest upset in in in in my life. Because i have self control them very self aware just like hold up man like we might not even came. You know what i'm saying. So am i. I didn't feel no way about it. Because i've already heard the songs are no already know what the situation people may think of the situation. You know that as well. So you can't antagonize me with that. You know live and that you're gonna get a boroughs. Because i'm not the same person i was twenty years ago when death how things got out spot out of control right is like a practice. I i've done a in anybody know anything about me. I saw you know. Like i took the last ten years to better myself because a lot of things happened in my life and i promised myself i would never put myself in those positions again because when you react and somebody gives you off your square in in and you did not have anger or You act out of anxiety is normally not the right decision. And i i i i. I'm from the gutter like listen. I'm from the gutter. I've been any every day for you. Know i i worked. I've grinded. i do everything of yet. My people myself out of that. And i can't let my anger take me back there so for me. It was more so like it was a moment for me. I got really buell you. All you got to be somebody you'd never became and just be like yo man this point like we. I can't even do that which you. So i'm i'm gonna be i'm gonna be i'm gonna be the the mature presidents. It's they don't like i'm not saying go back and forth but you with in front of the world about something that we could have talked about in our personal space and worked out so he was a hard decision like i came from like i. It was like one of those things. Like damn man like and i don't disrespect easy but it just like for for kids and i'm seeing dying for these mama's for this to be happening you know and you watch and it's like the only care you know what i'm saying so it's like i got at least care and they'll like i care about them more not care about how people are gonna look at me. 'cause you had to make either take disrespect to be your man. Listen to draw the line nip which we have. I believe you in gucci still got trauma from that whole situation have have you ever put yourself in gucci. Like you have to know why he feels the way he feels. I mean i. I meant not to cause shrieked code at this exact. You know what. I'm saying so not to get into it because still idea. Dan is frizzy That's the compensation like that's that's where get real grown man and i'm not opposed at this point. I'm not opposed to any of that. Grant your broker record last night. I mean baloney hams are buddies are not opposed to what good admit compensation the looking to see how his whole take on. Just even the chain of events was because there's been times while. I'm quite sure you probably felt you know like i know you just never know you know everybody. You know the tents. I'm saying throughout these years so not like i'm quite sure he don't know how to look at it You know so. That's the real conversation. We have men now going as last night you had to after party. Did y'all go to both after party. We all in the section where you had different sections. What was the conversation after versus when yeah piece did up the conversation after it was just. We don't have to say anything we know what it is. I mean it was you know of and you. Can't you know how it is. I mean i get a. They will ask for me over gaza so paranoid like you see it in air It was it was crazy so when it just so. Y'all know like you know just just out of be a real solid person. Like i can't speak on something. That happened You know almost eight hours ago with clarity. That i haven't sat down really thought about so i don't want to you know what i'm saying. Getting a real. I gotta get clarity for myself. Because i got a plate it out how it played out for me to as well i i do got a couple more questions about death situation you. Do you regret anything. You said onstage. Scrapped i gotta be honest with you like some oppo risk with that so long ago but i don't even like i only listen to you know what i mean like camis like a. Obviously i feel like that. One day i did. But that was fifteen years ago. You know you know. What i'm saying is like i wrote a lot of solid fifteen years ago. Think about that you know. How much real estate do you own. An atlanta a lot. Lot lot up. I'm probably wondering what's up not these I know especially i do. It owns real estate Downtown midtown You know throughout atlanta s. A big thing for a lot of people. Don't do that. Because it's quiet. From what. I what i been on it. You know. i own city blocks. You know you name it you know. is is is crazy. But that's that's like i say again. You know that. That's who i am as a person my i'm i'm into things like that. I just don't talk about him all the time. So you just gotta be from their world to know so when you know identity you know geez no real estate have those conversations but when you said last night you know i own land. I just thought it was funny. But i may be real know. What's up man. You know. I i don't i don't have twenty days. I and buster like that and it's all taken paying but i'll tell you you know when it comes those houses in those in those duplexes. I mean we can get into that. You know all day love it you know or the person probably you need to get in there and go back and forth. You know what. I'm saying. You want to do it and i. I got it somebody. You got song on the new album recession to call. Nigga i'm gonna ask you a really foolish question because i know the answer but what inspired that record. Hold on hold on now. Walking their last night of can't play. You got the clean version. Go play right now. Is the breakfast club. Good morning angela. Charlemagne guy we are the breakfast club. That was jisi saw that the recession I was crazy when i heard to be just automatically thought school days by leaders suited video. He didn't pick up the phone copy. You know say i know you. Problem bottles celebrate. Joe buying but you need to get into dog. I personally feel like as i. That's the crazy thing like as a black man and somebody has been an autos his ways to always strive to be better not to say. I can't be me but it just certain things that you do that you know what kind of tendencies. Those are in his okay. But they don't need you to be that way all the time. And that's why a lot of us don't get invited into the right rooms or the right functions or the right things because we all we don't know how to turn it off and my thing is you know at some point you've got to have balance and that's okay. You know what i'm saying. You can't just be one way so the thing that are mentioning on the song is basically the things you do when you're in that mode so that's me you know said did you really go to popeye's and order legs and they gave you is this. Don't go mad dog. I get it. You know it went on. Is those things but it just remind you of what we do As a coach it just because we feel like is okay in the easy way so and no disrespect to you know my people but it just some of it you know you you gotta be grew out of it. You know what i mean. Keep a little bit grow out of it because you can't you know you you've been somewhere you've been house in any walk in and you see My problems. I've been that person before when i walked into building. Everybody was tents. I didn't know how to show you know every soda on since a hundred people women don't take that to come kind of event europe saying what's it don't take you know like you know somebody bite me to a nice dinner came you know nice. Dinner is intimate. And i'm i'm boston down. Brunson leaving them on the table. We wrote him a. We have come safe certain things you got. You gotta have etiquette right now. Let's talk about therapy for my soul. Yeh let's talk about that record breaking down and eric. Is there anything else to talk about. In the rugged i feel like i said enough has one of those things like you know what i mean. Soulmate talked about. There'd be man like even with this this situation we would Gucci like. I just wanted to clear the air man. I'm just tired of walking around with all these bags. Men and this mystique in his dishonest. These these storylines. Everybody think they know. I'm a man of integrity man. Like i just can't deal not did it for for two decades but i can't deal with the false narratives know what i'm saying because you right. I sleep as the way i see sometimes could be in the wrong and other times. I might not with. If you're not going to sit down. Have a conversation with me about it so we can work it out of figured out. They will not communicate. So when i'm hearing doing stains and i'm minding my to my empire for my my loved ones in my employees and the people in my circle and all these things going on it it cuts deep when you have integrity so you have to just keep it. Because i've been type been quite my whole career me. You know that that was the problem. I don't talk to nobody about that. So even mean salami was talking. He would tell me about what they're he does. I can't talk to nobody about this. In the next day was just write it down. Because i heard day helps is pay and i just started writing down high. Fill in why. I feel like this didn't go away. Should win and before. I knew what i had a song when i recorded it. I feel better. And then when the world guided. I don't know i woke up and i just felt lighter man like like i mean that's that's not true from done like i own got and then they'll say button what it is. I say what i said in normally when you go sit down and talk to your therapist. They don't call you when you meet and be like. Yeah you remember you were talking about dead right is just like i feel like the world was my therapist and i just everything i had everything. There was a me that i felt. There was like a blockades or wait. I just say. Yoda sit down done like. I don't even wanna talk about this. No he won't get into a no more. I knew everybody had things say i'm done. I'm growing you see me like it is what it is but as i feel the wild thing about healing the healing funny man some days. You're going to feel like that and then some days you feel like them. Same eternal wounds hurting. I is crazy because you know traumas real. That's right is a real thing in a in. A lot of things might happen. You know. I i to be honest with you. I started feeling like all these things block and people around me. I love from their blessing. Even me being vulnerable and open honest. Because i've been guarded so long. Bits burnt so many times. And it just like i don't wanna do things. The people that i know are could and should do. Because i feel like they're going to burn me at some point because that's been the history of it and i'm like inside get these things off me. I'm a block people. They blessed really loved me. Really want to see the mess or really won't need to be my best. You know what. I'm saying. Because i'm guarded the any just like no man just put in the egg that come off star new lestari frisk. We got old chains his role. You know man. I think the best of the best is yet to come for you and gucci man because you know they. They no time stamp on trauma but like like when you when he said last night. I'm happy you extend the olive branch. And i accept it our like man and brothers about the really. Think to a good place to could. Y'all could you see yourself doing more business going on paul. I'm gonna you how far we came in this this with my ego. Aside ain't got like. I said i we've had its while came in that became in that clip back day. Everybody was tencent. All this was going on Light it a real time but for for me to hear him say on the stage. The you extended an olive branch. Let me know where we're headed. I would never thought an amine years. I would heard that type of verbs out of his mouth As city about where we are. You extend the olive branch. Think about that and he accepted. He said he said you extend tonight have to look at the irony. He said he understands that. But look look how many times you went on word. Come back where we started to say. You know what i seen it. You know what i'm saying. And i was like damn. What can you say even for you know. The people that support us is like is like divided loud. Keep it real like if if information amount is night matt. I i'm i i see in a while. Hey cool documents. It is a good man like you know. If if amman is it was it was good at. Dj's okay just to see how somebody else's run ins. Disagreements can make other people around you even even in the in the in the in the hip hop coach of what we do yummy. Dj's probably even play my music because they felt like the rock hill or how many artists who really love. What i do wouldn't even come rachael me. 'cause the is lie right you mess away everybody's money everybody's legacy and it's all because of how to individuals fielded by each other so drawing the line and one thing i can say and i'm not trying to make some on luther king up here but listen man. I've seen people from harvard and yale money together. I've seen people. Ibm applegate money to both at the end of the day about taking care of family living long enough to spend some of this money man going to see the world going going going to do the things that you drained doing that really matter. You know what. I'm saying care you family like everything else in between is noise and you know it mean it meant me. Brooke get past. Take that first step. Has that as the example for everybody. I hit like you know wherever you with it. You know if if if there's some way to figure it out you might want to try that because you think about how much music has been left on the table. How many celebrations. You know what i mean like. How many tours did didn't happen because people wanna him on a tool underwrite wanna meet me. Just is weird but you know what i'm saying. We grown. i mean come on ten years. I b. We appreciate you guys. Mandate last night was was amazing. The album recession was out right. Now make sure you'll go streaming in like i said i hope this leads us. Some real. he'll between you and gucci man flew to everybody will larry jackson and p and everybody who assisted. Let me say that so so larry jackson. Everybody that was working behind the scenes to to me as a little man's you know maturity don't like it's a step in the right direction like see missy. See where leads. I'm optimistic you know. And and i truly believe that and say that because i said i wouldn't talk about this in into i give praise but i feel like god made everything come full circle from even you know having switched them create their platform us to be able to use it to bring you know our coach and our people together to say. Hey look this is bigger than us and we're going to show you that you know. They bring their bag full circle. Shout the swiss chard timberland man that that platform is amazing. And thank you guys appreciate your jesus i so love. Is the breakfast club. Good morning room was on the way. Hey caitlin toronto. Yeah jamie loftus. Don't you wish there were a podcast that examined some of everyone's favorite movies using an intersectional feminist lens. Why yes i do. Well good news. It exists and it's our podcast. What how did i not know. I know the beco- cast is a weekly show where we invite our favorite comics writers and film critics to bring one of their favorite movies and tear it to shreds with us using the bechtel. Test as a jumping off point for discussion like how. Indiana jones consent is not great. Or how tangerine is one of the greatest romps of all time or how. The cheetah girls are feminist icons with a streak of troubling capitalism. Recent episodes cover space jam. 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Now one thing that everybody was talking about was janet hubert And will smith back together again and they finally had that conversation that they've never had about the friction and how afterwards she was labeled difficult and couldn't get work. Here's what she had to say about the Set being hard for her. During that third season. When i got pregnant there were a lot of things going on in my life and then wills live as well. There was some friction because i was pregnant. Home life was not good at all. The cast had no idea what was going on during that time of her pregnancy. I wasn't sensitive out. Had three kids. I learned some things that i did not know at the time and i would do things very differently but i i can see where i made the set very difficult for janet man. That's why you got allow people to grow and you got to allow people to evolve and you can't take things personal when it comes to other people because you don't know that people other people are going through all her difficult but she's having problems at home she's pregnant. She had a lot going on on both sides but like she said she said during it. I mean it's you know. She was kind of ball because him saying that she was difficult and she couldn't get other work. She couldn't get other jobs. I wonder if she ever sue for that if she sued to show back there. I had a lot of courses out to watching. I wonder how her relationship with james when he pathway. Let's think about that. You holding a grudge against everybody. Because they did you wrong right but then he passes you know what i mean. I wonder how about that. We had a unions many times. He just never was involved in them. No other the cast came back together now. She also talks about people thinking that she was fired. Here's what really happened. They offered me this really bad deal in the third season. I said you've got two months two weeks of work and you cannot work any where else i did not accept. Their offer was never fired. So they said okay. Then we're gonna recast your role when i left. I had this new baby and no one. Family disowned me. Hollywood disowned me. My family said you've ruined our name. I wasn't unprofessional on the set. I just stopped talking to everybody. Because i didn't know who to trust because i've been banished. And they said it was you who vanished me. Wow imagine that nothing entanglement a right well will smith also says you know. He was only twenty one years old at the time and he had his own issues. Here's what he said or was twenty one years old now. Everything was a threat to me. Why was i not you the world. I was so driven by fear and jokes and comedy. Y- you're alive. What you didn't realize either that i was going to a lot at home right very abusive marriage i can see now the level of pain and the level of struggle that it was for you just to show up every day but she took all that away from me and i appreciated that conversation. But now how you gonna make it. Right will okay. You gotta tone for that situation. You got the reboot of defrost prints coming on hbo. Max it's more of a dramatic Themed version how. 'bout soot enroll of og on fifth. It makes sense to me right all right. Well here is what janet hubert had to say about just the narrative of her being difficult and also being a dark skinned women in this business. I lost i understand. You were able to move forward but you know those words calling a black woman. Difficult in hollywood is the kiss of death. It's hard enough in your dark skinned back on in this business. But i felt it was necessary for us to finally move forward and i'm sorry that i have blasted pieces when i look back now. It's obvious that you having a hard time. And i felt like you hated me. I could not do a thirty year celebration and celebrate you. It's a part of me is a part of me to hate. Seeing people heal in real time. Because i feel like that should be like a private thing. But it's such a good thing for them to do it publicly because in this by other people to hill to absolutely no. I love saito Yeah like i said. I hope that you know they re they get to a real place of healing and will pay the forward. You know me and i hope you can tell that. He's in a position to do it. Put janet hubert. A mom in the reboot to the fresh french. I loved it. i love. Cnn gucci. Jisi last night. I just love seeing people putting the eagle to decide what they gotta do. And especially being janet who has not aged at all by the absolutely even a little bit. You could come right back down. Stairs and Replayed arrow reprised that role right now. That was like the fresh prince. Red table tabletop felt like that conversation way. Deepening that red table talk. They seem very on it. No i'm talking about the. I'm thinking about the between will and jada when they tangling think that right there that him and janet did it was just it was so honest and so pure it will not allow life was basically. I don't wanna say ruined by her career. Was i right now. Monique i guess was watching this while all this was happening and she wants an apology and from. We'll know who wasn't apology from tyler. Perry by the way she posted hats off to will smith where apologizing for what he did to. Janet hubert's everybody's on of career life when he was young. Perhaps tyler perry who has admitted in private that he was wrong. We'll follow suit and be man enough to apologize public. Like he promised will work on oprah and lionsgate a little later. ps tyler. You want a people's choice award for being the people's champ for your body of work so the truth about a woman named niko did nothing wrong and be a champion for the individuals who supported your career for years the black women and then she did a police. Swipe to hear tyler perry say it with his own words. I have like i told you before. I have heard people say that on league absolutely was done wrong biden so of the the apology. Run apology man. Everybody deserves healing. I want everybody to get the hill and they deserve okay. All right well. That is your room a report. I'm angela g. Peace of mind is what we all should be after. Okay peace of mind envy you looking at me stupid a piece of something all right nor is it mine my good okay giving you dog until me. I bet you wish it was you don't you but it's not. It's rudy giuliani. She lied what i was thinking about. You when i saw rudy giuliani yesterday. We'll talk about it for after the hour. Talk about it for hours down okay. I'm wondering why so cold in here now at all make thanks donate draw. Don't he gave it all makes sense. Why so coding here. Let's go to donkey hurry up. Call all right okay. Today's up next to breakfast locally john lewis. I'm a fat and all that you want this. Man to doting blouse man day. They chose you at the breakfast club. Bitchy donkey the day-to-day boy. You lucky i can't of ethylene right now. Millennium to work right now only work hold on one second all right. I'm not here today for friday. November twentieth goes to rudy giuliani. Now rudy had a press conference yesterday because he a saw loser okay. He's he's trump's attorney that whole team over there. They're still trying to act like they won the election. That of just letting it go. Listen to the guy. Listen listen man you are lying. You're lying you're lying and continue to lie. I'm not ma'am ma'am ma'am ma'am ma'am ma'am okay. Let me answer the question. The answer the question dan. Bring me a picture of you out. I want to see now. I'm going to be honest. I don't care about any of that okay. i'm just mad. We not on revolt today. Because i need to see vision of dismantle as flavored mammal sweating profusely now at video later. Make sure you add this picture to it. Okay dan i need you to put a picture up the knicks camera real quick. It was so hot under those lights. Okay those lies rudy. Giuliani was telling telling had him so hot and this is why i wanted to give him a donkey any day not only because he's raving lunatic. Who literally would hold donald. Trump's pain is when he pees and shake it form when he's done but what we saw on that stage last night should be a warning to all you just for men aspects. I right listen to me. That wasn't just a myth. Li peng you say you stay over there. Listen to me all you color and company by lori l. as brothers. I don't want this to happen to you now. Clearly rudy didn't have permanent hair dye. He had semi permanent hair dye. Because i don't think permanent hair dyed. Now let me turn to an expert. envy no. I wanna talk to you okay. Top the me sir. Now when you put that just me easy comb in color and ub to use permanent or semi permanent which one doesn't melt when it gets hot. Talk us Just amend is just one. There's no permanent or non semi semi-permanent. Just just for men. I don't know a beijing is damn ause laden envy. You are an avid bike rider. Okay so when you have saw sheen carson hair color on your chain. What keeps that ain't from melted. I'm really concerned us beijing. You've got guys cement. Swear keeping lots of salerno envy. Allow this to happen to you. Smart people learn from their own mistakes. Wise people learn from the mistakes that others what is dead and learn from what rudy giuliani's pay ain't okay. What is there to learn envy. Give advice i mean rudy. Giuliani should have you just for men. That's what he should have used. I i don't know but that's what he should use. His colors should have been like a brown. That was rudy giuliani brown. Listen to and. I think he was more of a dark brown jew. Okay we listen. All we're saying we don't want this to happen to you but it seems like you got it together. You know what i'm saying. I want you to listen to this. Just just listen to this one part. Listen let me answer. The question play again played. You need answer the question one more time. Let's answer the question. That's rudy giuliani standing on stage. Trying to talk and end up with a mouthful beijing Okay envy. I do not need you on this ad talking one day and getting hot because you looking at me and my triceps and then you start sweating an end up with a mouthful of beijing. Easy okay i'm serious. I did some research on this to beijing. Website states that die for eyelashes eyebrows can in fact cause blindness blindness. Peo- pay okay. I cannot have you out here. Legally blind because dan beijing ran down your head and into your eyes all matter of fact dramas check in vs eyelashes right. Now check him. He uses eight forty five right his eyebrows. Look dogging unusual now. I totally understand by. He doesn't want the heat on Up here he was complaining. How cold it wasn't here. But he was doing that to throw us off. He told the building to keep your code. Because he don't want to pay and his eyeballs by the way rudy giuliani and dj envy. Beijing should not be inhaled due to the risk of respiratory irritation. Did you know that. I don't know who uses beijing. I mean you should tell tale. Juliana don't use beijing is then you bid or maybe use a sharpie. I don't know is no reason for man. Black all white to be used in beijing during a pandemic okay. Beijing causes respiratory irritation corona virus causes respiratory illness. Can you imagine having trouble breathing and not knowing if his kobe. Nineteen are beijing fifty-nine envy. 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You take all taking all cnbc down all the colors. All the colored men beards hootie juliane. Shouldn't using sharpie shouldn't be used my god. I can't believe. I just took the whole mixing gray. That's messed up from. You just did understand instead of i'm going down. Everybody going down with me. This guy is so thin. All mixing some thinking. The song playing discussing Back hawes record you. And i got a couple of Cnbc goodness gracious. Well thank you for that donkey. Today it was out but when we come back. Cedric richmond will be joining us to the new. A senior adviser to president elect joe biden to him when we come back so he don't change his goddamn damn number on us. It's the breakfast club ramona. The breakfast club back out the world's most dangerous morning show morning. Everybody is tj envy. Angela yeesh alameda guy. We are the breakfast club. You got a special guest on the line this morning. Just a new senior adviser to the president elect ness right cedric richmond. Welcome back and everybody doing. Bless black and highly favored. Congratulations on being named senior adviser to the president man. To tell people with that position mean because they didn't they didn't even know what coach co-chair was. This is the first time it's not a free position on the biden campaign. I can tell you that let me just. It'll be directed public engagement. Which means our engage in Interact with everybody from the civil rights community to the lgbtq community to black lives matter to the latino community. And i'll be in the white house as a senior adviser to the president for him. The bounce stuff off to have input in decisions and sometimes you know that question is who was at the table It's my expectation of beer potato. Do you get a chance to breathe and say yes. We finally made it. We finally did it because it was a long fight in the fight. Continue for a minute or do now. You look at it and say okay. Now we got a whole lot more to do a lot of work to do This president has left a chaos and confusion all across the country especially a raging pandemic. But we don't have to tell you all you know. We have a lot of work to do when you start talking about systematic racism when you start talking about addressing poverty when you start talking about addressing climate change and you start talking about addressing a police reform on criminal justice reform. All of those things we've talked about now becomes the time to put up with a shut up and so we have work to do and that's the point. That is the awesome task as you said that. This was the hardest decision you had to make in your life. So what were your reservations. First of all. I haven't had a boss twenty one years except the people who put me in office and the other part was making sure that you know it's meaningful And showing now. I will tell you that Between you in deal because both of you all on interviews asked me the same question at some point which was who do. We hold accountable if things go awry. Or we don't live up to expectations and the the real question was well. If i don't go in then i'm cheating. People obe dead voice of all of the people have convinced to be a part of this movement and then it was just too uproots a family and moved to dc. Look i liked to see but new orleans is the best city in the country and so all of those factors went in but at the end of the day. It's something i had to do with it hard to leave your congressional seat. Absolutely i mean First of all. I just got reelected. It's been six elections going into my eleventh year assistant to the whip which is a leadership position in the house and the more seniority. You get the more you can help your district. But in this broken government that we have now with the senate controlled by republicans or could be controlled by republicans. Mitch mcconnell just could gonna continue to black everything. That's important us like george floyd police back which is black and on the voting rights extension which. He's blocking so part of it. Is you know. There's more than one way to skin a cat and so if we can't get it done legislatively let's go into executive branch and see what we can get done there. Who thinks you get that seat. You'll see a look. There's a number of qualified people who are running and I will Look at them. I'll talk to each and every one of them and i'll probably make a recommendation to the voters. But it's important to keep Someone who will put the constituents over ambition. Anything like that so everybody. That's running has a track record so voters will be able to judge. how are you navigating. Through donald trump. Not trying to help his transition phase. What are you guys able to do to get around that well. The good news is joe. Biden has been in the white house before. And so there's some institutional knowledge there but It's a hindrance and the sad part about it. Is it puts americans jeopardy so if we're talking about having a cohesive rollout of the vaccines ready it will be nice to know where they are. What's their plan so that we could come in our adjustment plan. I have our own plan ready. You need to know those type of things especially on national defense and security brief as one of the glaring items in the nine eleven report was that because it wasn't a smooth transition there were gaps and the terrorists were able to exploit those gaps. So those are the things you don't want to happen but Their number people used to be in the trump administration that has volunteered information. And so we're doing the best we can with what we got a. But i don't think that's adequate and we know it's not adequate for the american people so we just you know. Hopefully expected tend temper tantrum style and we can get to transition and get ready for one a peaceful transition to a moving presidency coming up and ask that there any way to forcefully. Do that by law. You know the fact that he's lost all these states. Come in and say you know that you did leave that you did lose any way to forcibly. Say no we need this information. You have to or you go to jail. Is that possible or no. That doesn't happen like that. There's some legal routes you can take. But i'll just tell you from my time in congress. Donald trump tells his cabinet secretaries nights cooperate with committee investigations to ignore our subpoenas. We hold them in contempt and then nothing still happens. This is a lawless bunch that is in the white house right now and you know without donald trump freeing them up expected to continue to Be a problem. However i do think at some point donald trump was going to realize that It's bigger than him for the first time. I think he will understand that. This is not all about him or just take his ball and go home and say you know if y'all want sleepy. Joe tastes sleepy. Joe yala want me back in four years on sticking my ball and going home a whatever it looks like it just needs to happen so that we can get on with the business of transition in preparing to run the greatest country on her. Are we got molly cedric richmond. Become back don't move. Is the breakfast club. Good morning everybody is. Tj envy li. Shall i mean the guy. We oughta breakfast club we still kicking. It was cedric richmond. Showing me are you ready for all the smoke. That's gonna come your way though. Because i posted on my instagram. Yesterday can Couple of days ago congratulating. You and immediately people started coming with all types of you know. rhetoric somebo- climate advocates in leaders. Who fight against toxic air pollution saying that. He's terrible for the environment because he got ties to the oil and gas industry. What do you say today. I understand that concern They also have to understand that in my congressional district We have hundreds of thousands of jobs tied to people showing up working every day Anywhere from a hotel walls to all engages to refineries and as just the district that i represent but what i would just tell them is that they all applaud dhamma keach as being one of the leaders on environmental justice when when we were deciding to put our a climate plan together It was mu that called dan. Mccutchen lose different of mine and said hey we want the best environmental justice plan that we can find and we want you at the tate. When i want you involve so I know The damage that's going on out there. And i think we have assembled a team to put together and we had a robust Climate change a plan and by the way a joe biden and its climate plan won the presidency. Nobody else did. he didn't. that's why he will kind of set to they said that you. You raked in big money from the fossil fuel industry and voted to help oil and gas company. That you know. That's not true now. I did receive contributions from gas companies their businesses in my district. And just because you it said doesn't mean you own will and at some point The activists are going to have to understand that you third politician. I heard seda and it makes perfect sense to me like you can have somebody donate to your campaign as long as you're still serving the interests of the people and not then what's the problem have also donated to my campaign so let i just think that. It's it's a distraction and when you know people are out there just trying to get done We should come together especially when you win. Election the fact that democrats fighting after we win makes absolutely no sense. We should be at the table figuring out where we go from here. And i think that's what joe biden wants to do. So low sunrise and all the environmental groups. I'm going to reach out to them and make sure that they understand that. This is the biden climate plan. This is the agenda. We're going to embark on so let's take people out of it. Focus on the plan. And so after god who said it it might have been king but i heard obama repeated before it's not about the man about the plane man i believe in joe biden's climate plan and is environmental justice plan. I was gonna ask. How do you undo the damage done by the president now and his constituents who are saying that there's voter fraud and this whole election was rigged and there's a lot of people who don't believe in the system. So how do you want to do that. Damage well one. I making sure we get to january twentieth and watch him leave the white house and west. Joe biden go into the white house. Because i think what we've seen over the campaign. Is that joe biden. People believe him and he can restore trust government the election system that trumpsters out there that believe that somebody stole election. They're going to believe that. No matter what i mean. They created the term of trying to fax and people believe it unfortunately he has a percentage of the population that will believe whatever he says. He says the numerous knows media's line and believe it so it's upon us once we take office to make sure we restore people's faith in governments store the faith and election system. You have republican governors republican secretary states like in georgia's saying we had a recount. Joe biden's the win. The election was fair. That was no fraud and those people are going to choose to believe Alternative facts just gonna believe that. Now how can we help you. And senator harris and everybody in the white house. Keep those promises for for for black people. How how can we help on the ground. While i think you have to keep raising issues We don't get a pass. Because we won. And i think that that's important and i said it on this show before charlemagne try to give you the thirty second. When when jesse jackson. John lewis martin luther king and all those people not martin but when the civil rights leaders went into visit lyndon johnson after the passage of the civil rights act that told them they needed a voting rights. It said. i can't do. They said no you have to do it. He said i wanted to it. But i don't have the political capital. Are the will of the people to do so. Help me by when you leave this room. Make me do it. Go create the environment out there. Create the demand for that change. That will help me. Usher it in so to the extent that people are still talking about Black lives matter movement. Weather helped hurt. Black lives matter. Movement is a partner in struggle for progress in this country and we recognize a will plot them and the more that they push the more that we're able to do and so That's what we need from you too. I mean we have to make sure that our people are engaged. And if that means. I people engaged enough to the point where they are criticizing the inaction. Or that's just a consequence of it but it moves the needle forward so just keep doing what you're doing dina on his voice Planes oaken keeping real. However you know being woke i have a week described. The young people say. That's what we need from you. And so young people need the the true and the real true and the more it incentivizes them to be a part of the process. I think that is very very important. You know And i know you're part of the administration but on a scale of one to laissez to civil rights act of nineteen sixty four. You have faith. In the biden harris administration to really make transformative change for the black community. Absolutely you know. The hindrance is the fact that we did not pick up on the senate yet and hopefully we can pick up those two seats georgia We need the people in georgia to just really Show up but the will is there and you know my grandmother used to say where there's the will there's a way and so i believe that a both of them wanna be very transformative and leave a legacy bigger and better than the sixty four civil rights act sixty five voting rights ad and part of what we wanna do is to its din- voting rights act. Which has lapsed since the supreme court decision that gutted by the way out i just want to also throw in there. That you know vice president biden Did break eight barrier already and show some Courage and the ability to think out of the box and take chances by picking not only the first woman but the first black woman to be a vice president candidate on a major ticket by the way the end of the day. As i look at this. I don't think there's another ticket that would be. Donald trump closest. This election was. I think senator harris was a vital part of the ticket in. I think joe's authenticity people knowing him as what a earned him. The title of president elect soon to be forty six president of the united states. I agree with you. I just you know i just won't more than symbolism at this point. That's all you know what i mean. Look i agree with you. I'd i would just say if you wanna see what somebody's going to do in the future. Just look at their past actions. And i think that that should at least earn you know a sense of of goodwill Not saying that goodwill's last in perpetuity. But i think it sets the tone for what type of administration this wants to be. And i will just tell you talking to president elect. Joe biden It is very clear that he wants to empower and do more for of the african american community in any president before him. And you know there are other issues. He wants to have that legacy on but he is a very set on making sure that you know his Lift every voice. Agenda is actually implemented. We're going to be on his ass. Oh don't change your number magic. We appreciate you checking in and call and call you back now. So petty richmond. Is the breakfast club gordon. Thinking about the breakfast club think they had one versus in atlanta night gucci versus the other versus what's that other vs atlanta versus kofi. Okay what the hell. Y'all got going on in atlanta what i saw in compound last night. Look ridiculous you are really trying hard to catch cold really. That looks nuts. Berg does you can't say about trump. rally the nothing. When you're doing stuff has been like that. It's not like this is the first time it's dan like last night. Looked crate bro. It's been like that for book called last week. She was like the cases raza code. Keep it up in a lotta. Y'all way over forty in clubs. You know what i'm saying. Now you overweight in overweight underlying condition jockey planning atlanta want to power. Well let's get to the room talk holly berry all the guys. The ruger report is the role report with breakfast. Halle berry some things to say about her pass. She had a first gazza when she was eleven years old. She was talking to lindsay florez. And here's what she had to say. You do missile so you really really and what was happening diddley figuring out my sexuality you give us some context shells came out. I was just laying all right context having a conversation. And that's one of the things that they discussed lip service. I would get it that anti-thai and boozy bucci. And so they're talking about different things like sex positions and their craziest sexual escapades and part of the show. You know later august. He's telling me last stock inhabit method. Not right now. Let's talk about new music. Megan thee stallion's new album. Good news came out. So i know everybody's excited for that now. One thing that people are talking about is a song called shots fired on there. And she's talking a lot about what happened with tori lanes allegedly and her former best friend. Kelsey listen to this real pay for you when thursday name. Josh you have been invited you to be my friend excited. Twenty input swim would go in. Its phil right. Well let's say some more information about what happened that day but she is Clearly not going to be friends with her best friend ex best friend anymore. Yeah hot coals worded. It couldn't have been that close best friends. Oh i need to know how far back to iran. that don't seem like it. Well you know your best friends become your worst enemies that is true. And so that's what happens when somebody knows everything about you. That is the person that if things go left and you fall out if somebody that's not really tight with you why would you even care. I mean you know you meet people later on in life that you you know might have been super cool with your thoughts always closing. Y'all fallout but you you. People people that human down with for a long time got so many people. I know where they stand and they know where they stand with me and i worry that now. Too many new friends of mine. My i remember when you add your face for like a year. That was so cute. I remember that. Yeah that's that's my brother. he i mean like that. You fight with your brother sometimes and we do fight and we argue and we we smash cake and eat. It was so because you tell them to doing that. He was drunk and he did it. Sensual not slated face. Y'all get it'd be funny if you're told his cake. Nobody's got his own. Paid in full and i was like y'all smashed. He punched me in the face off the ice on your cheek. And he wiped the ice and off after he smashed wiped the ice off again now when it gets this baby. Put out an ep l. Lifted off my face. Charlemagne which kinky ask ahead their baby put out a surprise. Ep and one of the songs on there is my brother's keeper as you know he's been going through it so he posted long. Live my big brother on instagram hashtag. My bro- my brother's keeper from baby brad. You hear some of that song. That's been hurting just like a prisoner of my mind. Too depressing to maybe broke down on anybody cross. Do business if money to see some on the who won't be my big when it is in mind okay is normally to slide with it. I told him that i was gonna do it tonight. The next week got it got us and looted baby His family. I wanted to to go get some halen. Break that cycle the trauma. His brother's depression you know causes brother commit suicide which ends up traumatized and family n- They gotta deal with grief and greed is no joke to hear the rest of my brother's keeper booking phone baby names. I can't believe we're supposed to a slightly said lord have mercy. Trumping includes monster. Baby grief is no joke in reality is you're gonna agree forever. They'll tell you different. You really get over the loss of a level. You just learn to live with it while i'm angela. That's your room a report all right. Thank you miss ye. I know up next. Let's get to the mix. I mean it's only right. I did a little bit yesterday. But let's finish it through. Jesus gucci eight hundred five eight five zero five four. I'm disrespectful to drums sort of versus last night. Dramas like not latin grammys. Was the house that this is mcevoy has this has this did you wash. How do you on. Why do they have a latin grammy. Like they don't have a black grammy or Hip hop grammy channel. 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Sitcom Deaths and Disappearances

Mobituaries with Mo Rocca

40:21 min | 2 years ago

Sitcom Deaths and Disappearances

"It was you Kristin who shot j I watched a lot of TV growing up. When I was nine I memorized the TV guy. When my brother Lawrence told MRs Barnett across the street that he had a younger, brother. She didn't believe him when I'm angry. That's how little I went outside. I learned early on that the television universe is divided into our long dramas. Half hour sitcoms. Dramas death is a fact of life consider that over the course of the six seasons of the sopranos ninety two characters died. Naked no chance to run. I swear to God. Let's even grislier on game of thrones. Characters have a seventy percent chance of getting killed off. Gods? But today we're talking about something far more mysterious. Something that's haunted me ever since my childhood basement twirling days, something that just shouldn't happen. I'm Morocca, and this is mobile Aries this moment, sitcom, deaths and disappearances. I've brought in an expert to help me investigate the phenomenon of sitcom deaths and disappearances I'm Ellen seven wall chief TV critic for Rolling Stone. I've been writing about TV since the nineties when there were like five channels, and now there's five hundred different scripted shows on TV right now, I'm not the first person to say, but through too much TV there really is, you know, and it's good to hear like people who are not TV critic say that. And also the western world for Tilleke rates are really low. So there's just not enough people to watch the show. Who's gonna watch longmire? I don't have time to do it. And I'm sure it's a fine show. But there's so many other things so many aids. Like when you hear about how big the universe actually, isn't it starts to hurt. Oh god. And like the the Netflix interface alone. It's like you you could spend like the length of a movie looking for a movie our topic. Here is sitcom debts in disappearances one of the great mysteries. So I actually died once on TV it was not on a sitcom. It was on an hour long drama on law and order criminal intent I played a gossip columnist named TK Richmond. They even gave me a fedora to wear. I've never ever watched. I promise you. I swear I've never seen this. And I thought I would watch it with an esteemed television critic for the first time so Alan join me for this. Here we go. Okay. Let's do it. That hat doesn't work on me. Elliott Elliott calm down. There's nothing that says these pictures have to run in my column blackmail photos. We're in a car. Now, it's not a bribe. It's an opportunity this is going to be the hot new place. This the pictures go away. Right. Do have little integrity. Did you just blow up the hell was that? Just blew up today show. My chart remains. Oh, no. Oh, my the hat survives. So that's good. What do you think did I pass New York Post gossip reporter? I mean, you're look very sweet smell of success. Thank you. I love any Tony Curtis comparison. Okay. So lots of people dying hour long dramas. I think actually that's right. That's the main ingredients somebody has to dine every law and order and there'd been three thousand of them. But for someone to die or disappear on a sitcom is much different. Why? Because sitcoms in theory are meant to be a little bit lighter more relatable, more relaxing. Its you're going to spend some happy time laughing at someone tripping over the couch or forgetting to pick up the groceries or something relatively simple death is not that in other words sitcom audiences. Don't want characters to die, which is why in some rare cases the characters have just disappeared without any explanation a syndrome, given its own name, Chuck Cunningham syndrome. Rome days. There was Chuck Cunningham. The third Cunningham child on happy days. The eldest Cunningham child who was in the show for two seasons. And then was never heard from or mentioned again. Who was Chuck Cunningham? You said the third child, but I'm glad you corrected yourself. Instead, the eldest PC was the first child not that Howard Marion acted like he was particularly special. I mean, he lived in the apartment above the garage before funds. He did he was usually when you saw them either carrying a basketball or eating food or possibly both. I gotta go to basketball practice. He was not really a prominent part of the show. And then a couple of years in the producers decided we don't need another Cunningham, and we want funds to live up the garage, and so Chuck disappeared and never came back erect the basketball and the sandwich where his chief excess Sary's. I mean, that's that's the thing. We remember from him. In the house. All right, dad. Do we remember anything about him? Really? Well, I think we remember that he disappeared. Yes. But when that's the most memorable thing about you that sort of speaks to why they were willing to get rid of him in the first place. Good point good. We'll do you think the fix was in for him. Did it feel like vultures were circling over him during this first two seasons? Well, I mean, he started getting less and less to do. And that was a show that was obviously going through a lot of the transformations over those first couple of years. He's right. Yeah. Funds. He's a relatively minor character. When you start watching the show. Wouldn't even allow him to wear the black leather jacket when he was on the motorcycle because the network feared that he looked too much like a hoodlum and the audience wouldn't wanna watch that. And once they decided to beef up Fonzie is role, and you have shifted from a single camps at com shot on film to a multi camera shot in front of an audience by Chuck, so I talked to Henry Winkler, and I asked him did Chuck half to disappear. And here's what he said. They did not have room in the writing for the older brother because the fawns became the older brother, everything that you would go to the older breath for Ritchie went to the funds for. Yeah. I mean, if you had to choose between who you were going to get advice from about girls about cars of at being cool about being anything. Why would you not go to Arthur Fonzie rally? One time one time moment line right up kiss the funds for that. It's a bug in any. In. So Gary Marshall, the creator of happy days was obviously great what he dead. So he makes the calculation that this character disappears. The audience will be fine with it something that I asked Tenri about only years later. Did I ask Gary what happened and he explained to me? What did he say? It was the older brother that didn't know how to write him. And then the right for you. And we had to let them go. And it was a terrible thing. He went up stairs. He never game down. And Gary understood that the audience would accept that carry undestood television. So well or will enough to know that if you've got this problem, and you write him out, you don't make a big deal out of getting rid of the character. It will be like slime you can poke a hole in the slime and it closes in on itself and becomes whole again. So. Allen was Henry right about this. Mostly obviously people still brought it up. They bring it up all the time, and especially whenever in the later seasons. Howard Marion would make reference to their two children and the very last episode of the series Joanie and Chachi get married and Howard makes a toast. You know, talking about all the happy days that he and Marion have had and he says, but we've had the joy of raising two wonderful kids, and I was nerdy enough. Even at that age to say what about Chuck? I mean harsh Henry told me he gets asked all the time about Chuck's fate. Oh, a million times what happened to Chuck? Nobody is really interested in. They just love the question. Do you know? I'm so sorry. But it's true yet. No, no one actually cares about Chuck. It's literally just the fact that they pretended he didn't exist. I think if they'd said Chuck moved away Chuck goes to Seattle exactly he couldn't just become an off stage character that they referred to occasionally. I mean, you know, not all families are so tight knit that they're always around and always in each other's business. You know, even if chucked never falling out, maybe just had a full life of his own far far away from a-walking kansin. So for Fonzie to live Chuck hat to die. Yes. The sitcom universes even harsher than the law and order criminal intent universe. Yeah. I mean, it's just like because he's not even dead. He's he's no longer in this reality. It's sad. Well, Alan as I'm sure, you know, the internet is replete with theories about what happened to Chuck. So of course, I had to run some of these by Henry confirm tonight, widely circulated theory among fans felt what happened to Chuck Cunningham one. He died in Vietnam. No. Still in his bedroom. Yes, serious was gay into sound by his family because it was the nineteen fifties. Who no I don't think he would have been disowned by the Cunningham's. I think that Mississippi for sure would have embraced him would Mr. see relieving. Okay. With that. Mr. c was very busy with hammers. Remember, he only a hardware store that was like always on the brink. Right. Right. Okay. So he was otherwise occupied Mississippi would have handled this, okay? Gary Marshall, always told people that Chuck Cunningham got a basketball scholarship in Mongolia. That sounds really right and the sad truth is I think we're all used to sort of pretending that someone who has existed just doesn't exist anymore. Yep. Yep. I have I've done that we go to a very dark place. But it's true. We've all had an older relative. Tell us don't talk about that person that person. Doesn't exist anymore. There's these family feuds, and suddenly we don't talk about these onto anymore. Chuck could have done something really awful, the the Cunningham's or very decent. You know, apple pie kind of family. Chuck could have been a deviant, by the way that last episode of Joanie and Chachi getting married that led to the spinoff. No, not the spinoff is in the middle of the show. Really? Yes, they left happy days for like maybe half a year. Maybe more to go do Joanie loves Chachi, which is the worst theme song in the history of della vision, right? I actually liked Joanie loves Chachi. I always thought it would be fun at there was yet. Another spin off Joanie moves to the shore and opens a little store where she sells knickknacks and Bob wills, and it would be called Joanie loves Chachi keys. Whatever gets it. God. And now, we take a moment to remember another dearly departed sitcom character. Judy Winslow who spent four seasons on the nineteen nineties hit sitcom family matters. Family manners told a story of a working class family in Chicago with three kids. Judy was the youngest. Hi, this is Jamie Foxworth and most people might know me as Judy Winslow from television show, family matters, Jamie Foxx worth started playing Judy when she was just a Bill schooler. Judy was the sassy little girl with a quick wit and sharp one liners. I'm cold, and I'm cranky. But over time Jamie started to notice that Judy wasn't being given as much SAS to throw round. I was getting less and less screen time. And it was always like Judy goes up to a room. Like, I literally be down, you know, in the living with everybody else that I would say, okay, guys. And the next thing, you know, judy's right up the steps just like the fawns in happy days family matters had found its star a pesky next door neighbor in suspenders and thick rimmed glasses even after service. That's right urkel because his unstoppable rise. Would mean the sad. Decline of Judy Winslow. Yes, you did urkel. It was during the taping of what would be her final episode that Jamie noticed people acting strangely. I do remember just the cash just coming up to me in like giving me so much love in hugs and affection. And I was like what's going on here? You guys is everybody acting so weird. She remembers that Reginald Val Johnson who played her father on the show was particularly emotional. He was literally on his knees. And he was in tears, and I just remember looking at him like do what is going on on February twenty six nineteen Ninety-three as fans. Well, remember, grandma Winslow got married. Judy was a flower girl, she walked down the aisle and was never seen again. To this day. Everyone asked me the same question. What happened to you? How could they just leave the daughter off? And I'm like, a you gotta ask those producers, Idaho. I don't know. I think they thought that people would just forget, and nobody forgot the character of Judy was survived by her older brother and sister, her mother and father. And oracle. This episode of Mobutu Aries is sponsored by audible, what would it look like if we all listened more listening to audio books. Inspires us motivates us, even brings us closer. And there's no better place to listen. Then audible audible has the largest selection of audio books on the planet. And now audible members get more than ever before each month. They get three titles of their choice. One audio book to audible originals and fitness programs that they can't get anywhere else. There's never been a better time to experience. Audible try it free for thirty days by visiting audible dot com slash MO or by texting MO to five oh five. Oh again. Go to audible dot com slash MO for your free thirty day trial or text MO to five oh. Five. Oh. Okay. As weird as a character disappearing into the third. He there's another Currence which is equally disorienting an actor who suddenly disappears replaced by another actor in the same role. This first famously happened on the nineteen sixties hit fantasy sitcom bewitched when after five successful seasons. The shows leading man underwent a casting change giving rise to what would become known in TV lore as the to DARREN'S. I caught up with Garin who wrote for bewitched an experienced the ripples of the Darren effect firsthand. Hi, I'm Lila Garrett, and I'm writer producer and a director some people think of me as a legend. I don't enjoy thinking of myself outweigh, the Lila, I would say that you're a legend. I know I know it's a heavy burden. But I'm willing to carry it. Lila wrote for top scripted shows, like get smart and all in the family and the Lucy show at a time when women were rarely seen in a writer's room. She's got two Emmys and a writer's guild award to show for it. But out of the more than thirty shows she's written for it's not hard for her to name, her favorite the Risnov show that I've ever done that. I enjoyed more than big which and I enjoyed every minute of it bewitched was a big hit in the nineteen sixties into the nineteen seventies. It was about a young happy. Couple housewife. Samantha played by Elizabeth, Montgomery and ags. -secutive husband Darren originally played by dick York, the only problem on their honeymoon night. She tells him that there's something that she's kept secret from him. She is a witch and rather than be excited by the possibility of having this beautiful wife who can also perform magic and do anything for him Darren Stevens decides that he you know, he's a man gosh darn. And he does not want his wife doing magic. And the eternal struggle of the show is all these magical hijinks happening in the background much DARREN'S frustration which means that Darren Stevens. Character is essential. Yes. Because he is always exasperated by what happens. Come out here and face you've been sticking that magic nose of yours where it doesn't belong again. Don't quite tonight. I won't come on. Sam don't make me drag out it just. Dick York was really good. He's very good to me. He sort of Jim Carey good. Yes. He's very expressive. Very just sort of a memorable vocal comic even to extend physical comic. He had a great face. Yeah. I mean, real plastic. I was a rubber face rubber. Yeah. It could go anywhere. You know, every expression of is wonderful and clear in this case funding, his responses to everything that was happening around him. Drove a lot of comedy on the show. Samantha despite having the magic powers, she's the straight man on the show. He's the one having the fun because he can't believe what's going on around him favor. I ask you to do. And what do you do you? Let beak of yours and really cost. He was spectacular. Was a spectacular man. As great as he wasn't a role. Dick York had a secret. What we I noticed the problems with dick York brilliant the second year. Suddenly he couldn't make it for the show that we were writing. And I it just seemed as though he may have had the flu and so on, but when it became a habit, we've recognized that there was a real problem there on alternately we found out what that problem was. Gore had sustained a serious back injury on the set of the nineteen Fifty-nine western they came to Cordera acting became harder and harder for him. And then practically intolerable some seams in bewitched. He can only do sitting or lying down. He took medication to manage the pain and ultimately became dependent. Dick York started missing shows so often the writers had to create what they called non Darren shows on these episodes, the writers would render Darren invisible for most of the half hour often via witchcraft with Darren out of the picture. They leaned on Samantha's colorful relatives to fill out the episode. They was unable Artha who was played by a poll in one of the world's greatest comics one morning. I shot a line in my pajamas. I want he was doing my job. And then there was in Dora played by Moorhead. Do what is already a practical? Jim who was a mantis mischievous and kind of playfully vicious mother. But there was only so much slack. The secondary characters could pick up eventually dick York was hospitalized and left the show. So dick York was gone. But what to do about the character of Darren Juve? She can't divorce him the whole structure of the show is based on this marriage. So what are you gonna do? They really can't get divorced because even years later when they wanted to make Mary Tyler Moore's character, Mary Richards. A divorced woman that alone was scandalous. Yeah. And you're certainly not going to divorce a beloved couple in the middle of the show. We couldn't possibly kill off the first Darren because he was part of the concept of the show. This was a love affair, and then someone who looked a lot like dick York was cast as as Darren that was dick Sargent. So. Dick, Sargent replaces dick York, and they just acted like it was the same day on the whole time. But let's face it. You never forget your first baron. This one just wasn't the same especially his connection to Samantha Honey, dutiful sweet clever adorable, and I love you madly. It works. Well, it doesn't work on me. But I love you. And they lacked chemistry. Elizabeth Montgomery with the second Darren with dick Sargent. Yes, I use the word lack, but the chemistry was different chemistry's chemistry. With dick Sargent you felt as though oh, let her use magic. Who cares? Darren the I was much more agony. And then Darren the second just listen to how the new Darren says his wife's name. Now listen to Darren classic. Dick, Sargent would have been more proprio -ly cast as a head of a detective agency, MS good actor. There's nothing wrong with them. But he wasn't right for the part of down and that hurt the show. So did that change would you had to do in the writer's room? Well, we've got Darren number two in less trouble because he didn't handle it as as vulnerably as dour number one. And therefore, it wasn't fun. You know, and he became more of an observer than a participant it never captured the same magic. No, no one ever denied that. And it did kind of fake all up and once again, it was that zany cast of secondary characters to the rescue and Dora uncle Arthur helping out here L in Bombay played by Bernard FOX ELS ghostly came in as as Morella. There was a lot of sort of ancillary magical characters who had to pick up the slack. That dick Sargent was leaving them. You could basically do anything except stories about the Stevens marriage because that seems to be interesting almost immediately after take York left index Arjun, Cayman, these were all great satellite characters. But without that core. Yeah. You know? It's like here's a bunch of great side dishes that we now have to serve as your entree. Insurgence first season as Darren the show's ratings dropped from number twelve to number twenty four the following season. It fell off the ratings cliff and was canceled. This wouldn't be the first or last time a major character had had a casting change mid run. The Darren handoff may be the most remembered mid run casting change on a television show. But this kind of thing has happened on more than a few beloved sitcoms. I mean, the most famous one I think since then is on on the fresh prince of Bel-Air when Janet Hubert Whitten got replaced by Daffy Maxwell Reed. And I think it was because she and Will Smith did not get along. Okay. And then with Roseanne. Yes, Roseanne they replaced one Becky with another because goeransson I think wanted to go off to college and Sarah chalk came in at after a certain point, they were rotating back and forth after gorens and started acting again and on the revival goeransson playing Becky, but Sarah played another part bright. And they were very witty about it back in the nineties. We're talking about the original run Roseanne. There was even a scene. I think we're they're watching bewitched and commenting on the two different DARREN'S instead of making inside show because self-referential joke. I believe that they replace that. They're in. How the second and much better. There is something to learn from the case of the two Aaron's right about how a show really can be affected the whole show. Yeah. Obviously, I understand. No one wanted to stop the Money Train, but it did fundamentally transform once. They had a lesser Darren come in and they had to figure things out from there. I remember curb your enthusiasm episode where they're talking about the to DARREN'S and either Larry or maybe Jerry Seinfeld is actually guesting on said, no one wants to be a second Darren. I'd forgotten. You mentioned that until now isn't it when Larry winds up having to replace Jason Alexander as George when they're making the pilot to DARREN'S. Yeah. Bewitched second down. I didn't care for the second want. It. But it's true. I mean, I feel a little bit badly for the dearly. Departed dick Sargent that he's become. What's the word that he's defined that? Now that he's that. He's. Yeah. Anyway, that he represents that being the second Aaron was very lucrative for dick Sargent. You know? I'm sure he would rather be that than to have not had a prime time TV job for those final seasons of a witch. Well, that's a great point. That's a great point. Being a second Darren. Yeah, is is a lot better than not being Darren at all there. Thank you. Exactly. Can you please embroider that on a pillow for me? I'll work on it. for all their differences, dick York, and dick Sargent had something in common beyond that role. They played on TV they both led exemplary post Darren lives in nineteen Ninety-one. Dick Sargent at age sixty one came out until his death a year later, he advocated for gay rights with his friend and TV wife. The wonderful Elizabeth Montgomery right by his side. Dick, your couldn't find much acting work after bewitched and ended up poor living off of his pension. Check all the more remarkable. Then that he and his wife Joan dedicated their remaining years to helping the homeless by collecting in handing out food clothes and bedding. Dick York died on February twentieth. Nineteen Ninety-two less than two years later. Dick Sargent died on July eighth nineteen Ninety-four to DARREN'S both pretty good eggs. All right, Allan. Now. We're transitioning to a whole other class of sitcom death, the death of a character as part of the plot. Especially jarring when that character is the title character, O R P Valerie. Failure. Harper beloved star co star of the Mary Tyler Moore show star of Rhoda just beloved TV icon in mid late eighties. She had come back on new family sitcom called Valerie. She played the mom to three kids. One of them play. Jason bateman. The husband was an airline pilots. He wasn't around very much. And it was just here's you know. Valerie Harper in the next phase of her career sitcom the show ran two seasons at the end of the second season. Valerie, Harper said, hey, I would like more money. I'm not being paid enough. My name is in the title. I feel I should be compensated more. And instead the studio said, no, we can do the show without you the audience seems to like the kids better anyway. And so rather than pay her what she wanted. They wrote her out of the show they killed off the character. They brought in sandy Duncan as her husband's sister. I think to move in as sort of the surrogate mom of the kids the dad was around slightly more and for season or two they changed the title to Valerie's family. And then eventually the subtitle failures family coal in the HOGAN, they sort of like Twelfth Night what you will or Rambo for split into. Yes. And then within a year. So it just became the whole. Agan family and references to their you know, late. Great mother went the way of Chuck Cunningham. They completely disappeared. So it was the HOGAN family Nate Valerie's family. The Hogan's nee Valerie, correct. A lot of as they say interational. Why is this? So funny. It's just again because you can do death on certain sitcoms. Certain shows are a quipped for it because they have kind of a level of gravitas or because they do the death in such a ridiculous way. Like when chuckles the clown is on the Mary Tyler Moore show either way, you can sort of work death into a sitcom field. But this was a very light and silly and superficial sitcom about family life. You know, I'm going to get my driver's license or not I'm going to have a date to the dance and suddenly mom is dead because the actress had salary dispute, and it's injecting this really somber tone into the show, which the show almost immediately wants to make you forget about because it's this unpleasant thing they've done where they have to get rid of Ellery Harper because she was too expensive. And you make a good point that the form the sitcom form can sustain death. I mean, all in the family is incredibly moving. No. Yeah. Though. She's just puttering around the bar and in the house, and you don't know what's going on. And then you realize at the end, no Edith's gone. It's amazing the right show can pull it off. Cheers frazier. Certain sitcoms are built for it. This one really wasn't and wasn't even interested in exploring it. So sandy Duncan comes on in the third season. In the first episode of that season. They just make very passing reference to the death of Valerie in a car crash. Yes, sandy Duncan has moved in. The dad is getting ready to go back to, you know, flying airlines again, and you know, life goes on all Dan, it's been six months since mom died. And I think back in the air. Besides will be fine. Yeah. Got it San. So they don't spend a lot of time morning and the father who was always sort of a secondary. Character is going back in the sky. You'll be that in a week is the first time I've left the boys since automobile accident. I know. Keep done at terrific cab. I just think it's time for everyone to get on with their lives. Have to say, I love towards the end of the episode, sandy Duncan is fabulous. She acknowledges. Valerie, Harper's character. But barely. I mean, let's say it's not exactly moving didn't make the decision to move your overnight. I thought long and hard about it. The more. Did you? A lot of reasons my feelings of your father and your mother and you kids obligatory, but then that same season only to later the family is rummaging through the attic when something super onset commie happens. To work mister wizard. Couldn't get that lamp to work. Let's go. Oh, no, the the lamp sparking even that music is suddenly not sitcom, right? I think it's meant to be dramatic. It's got a little lorrimore in there. Yeah. He'll downstairs to bed until the smell of smoke weeks. And sandy. Now, they're actually really having to act. Yes. And now they're safely down on the front lawn as their house burns to the ground. I this is very this. And after the commercial break, we're back in sitcom land. How was your day? It's kind of it's kind of weird mesh up, right? Yes. Specially when you consider that the blown off Valerie's death in the season premiere, right? And it's and they're not even doing it in the episode sort of in the aftermath of death cetera. Well, we're going to do we're gonna come back at the start of the season. She's been dead six months. So we get to skip past the grief because grief is messy and awkward and not really what we do. And then a couple of episodes later, oh will burn down the attic, which will let us redesign the sets. But also give Jason Bateman of chance to play some grief. Now, it may interest. You to know that I've talked to both Jason Bateman and sandy Duncan separately about the Valerie situation, and they have the same recollection. And it's the wrong recollection about how Valerie died really they burned her burner dead in the house. And then they shot the episode where we discover her and that was for a half hour sitcom, but that she died in a house fire yet, I'll fall apart crying. And and. And it was a very special two parter mo-. I was playing the aunt and I moved into take care of the kids because. Love sitcom, they're so funny. She burned down in a house. So it was a fire that that ended that contract. They both think that she got burned big house fire. Oh my God. Sandy was shocked when I said, no she had supposedly died in a car wreck. Here's the interesting thing you both remember the regional title character of the store. Valerie, having died in a house fire. Yes. All right now. I don't want to burst your bubble here. But she actually died in a car crash Chanu serious. Yup. That is you just dig to the truth. Don't you? I had no idea. I swear do you think actors just learned so many lines that they forget what they do. Are. We just not too bright. I don't know sandy. Here's my question to get Valerie off the show to they have to have her character die. Well, I think because they had established this happy home life and happy marriage. There wasn't much have another way exit. Her do you know what I mean, they wouldn't have gotten a divorce. They didn't want her lying hospital some incurable disease. So I think it was swift and to the point and got over it and went on the had to killer instantly instantly. It just seem like there's a blurrier line between comedies and traumas. And now so that now it's not as joining or it can be treated in a more natural way in also because Valerie's family. I mean, you know, by the way, when you watch about I mean, it's just a terrible show. Sure. But you know, chasing Bateman was adorable and had great comic timing. Yeah. So that gets you eight seasons. Right. And sandy Duncan. I mean was terrific coming in. I mean, she did what she needed to do. Yeah. People love sandy Duncan. I think you know, if you are predisposed to watch that show because it was the Valerie Harper show, and they were killing Valerie Harper, you have to bring in someone who's SU prima likable to get away with it. And Dunkin definitely fits that Bill. I'd like to end this episode talking once again about my own TV death on law and order. I just wanna point out that I almost actually died in that role really not because of the car crash that because I was playing chain smoking gossip columnists, and because I'm a method actor I prepared for the role by smoking lots of filterless cigarettes. And I mean, lots mind you I'd smoked a couple of cigarettes in my life when I was a teenager, and that's it. So right before one of my scenes, I began throwing up like truly projectile vomiting, and I just wanna thank all these years later. I wanna thank the crew of law and order criminal intent because as I was hurling I kept thinking all these people wanna start laughing right now, and they're not laughing. And I wanted to just be able to say like, it's okay, you can laugh because this is a particular situation. So here's my question. If you know God forbid you had. Fallen to your death because of the reaction for the cigarettes. Who would you have wanted to play that role in your stead? Oh, my sandy Duncan. Of course. Come on. I love Peter Pan. I love week. I love I love sandy dunk, Scooby doo. I love run scoop do so I definitely would've wanted Saint complain may go that's an excellent choice. Alan seven wall. Thank you, so much, MoMA pleasure. Next time on mobile Aries, the trailblazers who's pats were somehow erased the forgotten for runners. She's really the Rosa Parks of your most New Yorkers most Americans have no idea how much does this historical amnesia bother you. I mean, it's infuriating. It's absolutely infuriating. I certainly hope you enjoyed this moment be sure to rate and review our podcast. You can also follow Mitchell Aries on Facebook and Instagram, and you can follow me on Twitter at Morocca. You can subscribe to mow Pichu Aries wherever you get your podcasts for more, great content, and to watch my fiery death on law and order criminal intent, please go to mobile Aries dot com. This episode of mobile Aries was produced by Kate McCullough. 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Arizona Farmworkers And COVID-19; Coronavirus At-Home Tests

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Arizona Farmworkers And COVID-19; Coronavirus At-Home Tests

"From npr and wbz. You are dowd. This is here now. I'm tanya moseley. We're less than a week from thanksgiving. And the centers for disease control and prevention is recommending. That you stay home and only celebrate with people you've lived with for the past two weeks for more on how you can celebrate this holiday safely. Let's bring in aaron brokerage. He's associate professor of biology. At the university of massachusetts dartmouth. he's unscathed and professor first off. Is this cd recommendation necessary. Well there's really recommendations there is stay home and keep your family household to one. So we know with people traveling. It's just going to eat a spread infection on the front side as you're going there or on the other side after thanksgiving yoga to bring it back to your own community but then in your own home what we are seeing in massachusetts. The data is really quite clear that the vast majority of new infections are happening in your home. So you bring a single pass into your house that one person is infected and i ended up infecting fall five. Or if you're having a thanksgiving gathering eight nine ten other people in your house. What if people are intent on seeing each other and they wanna get tested and then get together. Is there a way to do that safely. Because getting a negative test one day does not necessarily cover all of your basis right and you know i will admit i am exactly in the same category two because my wife's mother we would like to have a heave thanksgiving and now we have pulling hair on how we can do this safely and there is no safe in amongst this. Can you lower the risk and it really is lowering your interactions down to just the the lowest risk interactions. You can have in the weeks leading up to thanksgiving so no going to restaurants now. Going to baas limit grocery shopping and then a test as close to thanksgiving as you possibly can with the results so there is a you know a path to do it but can people really do seven days of low interactions and get a test for the result. That comes back in time. And that's one of the tough things with it. but there are other considerations. What about a family. That has a college student coming home. For instance and their college student can't stay in the dorms. How can families like that manage that type of situation. Yeah and so. This is really incumbent on the college to make sure that doing it right and not spreading it around the country but again what can the college student do is if they're not already. Their interactions should be virtually nothing for the next four or five days then they need to take tests before they leave the school and they could take the test drive home but then they need to isolate themselves away from the rest of the family until at least they get the result but preferably lowered the type of interactions that you're having full a week or two after you come back a window open door. Even a cracker to makes an enormous difference in the amount of virus that could build up in the air and infecting others. Let's fast forward a week. The turkeys gone for people that don't follow these guidelines and do attend family gatherings outside of their bubbles. What should they do. Should they be quarantining. Yeah if you adamant that you're going to have your ten person faced and enjoy it and have fun with your family. And i get while you're doing it. You then have a responsibility to make sure that you don't take that personal risk and move around in the community and so again you should be. Lowering interactions down in the weeks. After that. And getting a test where you can my kids. School is doing something very similar to this. Today is their loss day and they're not going back to wednesday and everybody on the monday has to drive pasta school and get a test and it has to be cleared before they're allowed to come back on the wednesday so there are things that you need to do to make sure that you are not bringing your risk from your own choices into the community and infecting of us. Have you come to a resolution on your mother-in-law coming to visit. Yes so it's going to happen. I have spent about a thousand dollars making my home ready. I have two enormous hep officials in my house. My wife and i both got tested yesterday. Pulling up kids out of school. We have got a common dioxide monitor in the house now to know that we're getting the right air exchanges. But i'm terrified. I mean i've never been seen said that i'm fearful of this before but this does worry me but i've done the best that i can do. We have to now live with the risk that we are now facing. And it's tough and i. I'm conflicted with this literally every single day but ultimately you're telling people if you don't have to take that risk you shouldn't right and i don't understand the the long distance travelled to do this because there's such a big travel issue with flying buses trains or have you getting around and then bringing two how selves together as risky you out of fifty percent risk by adding a third household and it just keeps going up the mole. People you put together. Aaron bro. Midge is associate professor of biology at the university of massachusetts dartmouth. Thank you so much for joining us. And you have a good and safe thanksgiving. Thank you for having me on your show and you have a great thanksgiving as well will. It won't be ready in time for thanksgiving but this week. The fda approved a new at home test for covid nineteen which promises results in less than half an hour. Dr gary procup is medical director of clinical virology at the cleveland clinic which ran a clinical trial for the new test. Dr prokop welcome. Thanks so much for having me and before we talk about what this will mean in terms of public health. Let's talk about the test kit itself. What does it look like. How does it work yes. Test kits pretty simple. You get a kit and it has a little machine inside and it has swab. It has a vial and has instructions. And so basically you swab both sides of your nose. And then you put the swab into the vile swirl it again and then you're going to put it in this little instrument that comes with two double a. Batteries and let it go and it will run itself for up to thirty minutes. And there's a positive light and a negative light and if all the lights flash and tells you that there was an error and a little baggie to dispose all of it. When you're done so i guess the question is when those lights flash positive or negative. How much can we rely on them. Is good is going to a test center to a doctor's office. I would say it's in a very good category. So they did three arms of his trial and in their community testing arm they essentially tested a hundred one patients and they only missed three and the three that they missed had low viral loads right so we know in this disease that once you get infected your viral load will rise than as you recover your viral load will start to drop so those are the only ones that they missed so it looks like it's a very good task for people who have acute covid nineteen early in disease if you start testing as symptomatic people these days. Don't perform up to the documented standards. They're all cleared for symptomatic people and the quick test like this. They tend to start breaking down. When you start testing people with low viral loads which would be a symptomatic folks. So it's pretty important that people are really only testing themselves with this or any of the other. Quick test symptomatic. How big of a development is this in. Other words could access to home testing. Be an important weapon against this pandemic. i'm excited off for a couple of reasons. One is that keeps sick people in their homes. Right we want people to be isolated and not transmitting. The virus number two is a decrease as a use of personal protective equipment. So you don't have to have a nurse or other caregiver down. Glove mask in order to swab patient. And they're doing it in the safety of their own home you know. The challenge will be to the company to gear up. Get these products into our hands. And i think it also is a herald other companies that this can be on another challenge that might present itself here is that it's by prescription. Only patients taking the test at home are going to be responsible for reporting their results to the doctor and then the doctor as far as i understand will then have to report those results to health officials. Just wonder if you run the risk of losing track along the way if that could be an issue. Yeah you really do. I mean. I think you point out an important challenge. We need to know who has covid. Nineteen so public. Health officials can do their job of contact tracing. That's going to have to be a portion of this home testing. That really gets nailed down on. You know pretty firmly doctor regarding the reliability of these tests if someone gets a negative result. Do you have any concern that they might then think they're home. Free not take the precautions that they might need to anyways getting a negative result. If somebody's symptomatic question that negative result and this company and other companies do. I think have put very good language in their test. Directions like for example. This one says on negative results do not preclude the stars covy to infection. Individuals who test negative continued experience. Cova senators should seek followed care from their healthcare provider. So we know that very early in disease the viral loads can be low because you just got infected and so any test can miss people at those very low viral load levels so as patients become symptomatic if symptoms become worse you know they should consider getting tested again. Maybe getting tested with a more sensitive test and for sure staying contact with medical provider. The other thing. I'm wondering is willoughby irrelevant by the time of vaccine rolls out to the general public. Maybe around the same time that this home test becomes widely available. I don't know time will tell everybody for sure is really hoping these vaccines are going to be highly effective so until we know for sure you know. It's another good test. That i think we can add to a list of The good test that we have so happy to have dr gary procup. Who's lab at the cleveland. Clinic was involved in the clinical trials. For lucinda health's new covid nineteen home test. Kit approved this week by the fda doctor. Thank you thank you appreciate it. The corona virus isn't the only problem. America is facing right now. Last year a record number of people died from drug overdoses. Roughly seventy one thousand according to the center for disease control and prevention and this year is on track to set another record. Most people are dying. Due to fennel a synthetic opioids that often comes from china. The trump administration promised to stop the flow of fitna into the united states but npr has found trafficking has actually increased. Npr addiction correspondent. Brian man joins me now to talk all about this. Hello brian tell you bryan. You've reported that. This synthetic opioid sentinel has surged in states. Like california and arizona. Why is it surging specifically on the west coast and remind us of this drug and exactly why it's so addictive so feno has been around for a while street sentinel. It's this incredibly addictive Chemically made version of opioids. It's sort of like morphine. That it's fifty to one hundred times more powerful and for a long time one wrinkle. One good bit of news was that it didn't spread very much in the western. Us largely that's because it didn't mix very well with the kind of street heroin that people suffering from addiction in the western u. s. ten tend to us so there was sort of a way to stop it coming in but the last couple of years researchers have found that more drug smugglers are bringing sentinel into these communities and they're selling it so cheaply the people are beginning to switch over. I want to introduce you to a guy named jake who i interviewed in phoenix arizona. On the street. I actually met him while he was on his way to buy more phenomenal. I used to shoot up heroin. And when i got out i am just started. Smoking pills was thing that was around. It was so easy to get pills. So i started smoking pills. So basically what. He's saying they're tanya is that these sentinel pills coming north from mexico. They were cheaper than heroin to get and so now. His addiction has changed as i mentioned a lot of this. Federal comes from china The government they are banned the export fitna last year under pressure from the trump administration. Has that helped. Npr looked really closely at this tanya. And what we found. Is that chinese chemical companies. That were exporting. Fennel have instead begun selling what are known as sentinel precursor chemicals. These are the chemicals that are used to to make this drug and what these companies have done is adapt. They've taken to using social media to sell directly still into the united states. But the bigger change and this is something that The drug enforcement administration is also raising. Alarms about is that these chinese companies are selling directly to drug cartels in mexico and so more and more those drug cartels are using their supply routes. they're street markets to pump sentinel into more of these cities like phoenix like los angeles like seattle so while direct shipments from china did drop. What we're seeing is this whole new deadly pipeline. That's been created in its place. Meanwhile purdue pharma the makers of oxycontin settled with the justice department for more than eight billion dollars. That deal was approved this week by a federal bankruptcy judge. A lot of that money is supposed to go help. Fund treatment programs and other efforts to mitigate the opioid epidemic. I mean could it help. Is this really enough. You know this is interesting. Of course purdue pharma really involved in seeding this opioid epidemic back in the late nineties with the sale of oxycontin and drugs sort of started people down this deadly path and now the question is whether this company can route enough money out to communities to pay for drug addiction treatment programs homeless programs all the things that are needed to help with the opioid epidemic and communities. Were talking to say yes. They desperately need this money. They need as much help as they can get. But it's important to remember tiny that the cost of the opioid epidemic is now calculated in the trillions of dollars. It has devastated so many people so many communities so eight point three billion dollars. It sounds like a lot of money but everyone we talked to say. It is a drop in the bucket. I mean in just a a a side note to ask you. Where is this money coming from. We know purdue. Pharma is in bankruptcy. Yeah this is a really complicated wrinkle. And it's very controversial. Purdue pharma is in bankruptcy and so the idea that this bankruptcy judge approved this week. Is that the company will be. Reinvented as what's called. A public benefit corporation. It'll essentially exists to generate profits from opioid sales. Those profits will then fund drug treatment right and so that's a relationship that a lot of people including many state attorneys general a lot of members of congress they think is profoundly dangerous and unethical at essentially will put all of these. Communities that have been poisoned by opioids into a long term dependency relationship with this company and its profits to pay for rehab and treatment. And so yes if this eight point. Three billion dollars ever materializes a lot of that money will flow directly from future sale of pills like oxycontin. There have been no criminal. Charges filed against the members of the sackler family who owned purdue pharma. They pocketed as much as thirteen billion dollars. From the sale of opioids under this agreement with the justice department. They've admitted no wrongdoing in there. They're giving up around two hundred twenty five million dollars of their personal wealth. How are people involved or impacted reacting to that. They're not happy. I mean this remember. Tanya this opioid epidemic now has sort of one family viewed as being right involved at the epicenter of it. The sackler lers created purdue pharma they marketed cotton aggressively and now under this arrangement as it exists they will give up a tiny fraction of their fabulous wealth. I should say that there are a lot of state attorneys general. Who say they're not gonna go along with this deal. They're still trying to sue. The sackler family directly and the justice department does say that criminal charges against members of the family are still possible in the future remember. Tens of thousands of people have died in overdoses linked toxic cotton but a lot of the legal experts. Npr's been talking to say they don't expect to see. The sackler is brought up on criminal charges. They think that's very unlikely. That's brian man. Npr addiction correspondent so much. Thank you tanya. Msnbc host. Rachel maddow returned to her show last night and shared a blunt warning for viewers revealing that her longtime partner. Susan almost died of covid nineteen. I would've done anything. I would've move mountains for it to have been me. Who was sick these past couple of weeks instead of susan. I still give anything for that but this thing does not give you that choice. Rachel maddow's warning is now trending on social media. And let's start our weekly social media roundup on that note with finney. Okay of the stream on aljazeera. English infamy by sharing her family's story maddow actually warns listeners to consider their loved ones when calculating risk. She's been getting a lot of support online. What are you saying. When he was a love story that she shed and people responded almost instantly the moment she shared that story. Let me give you a few examples. Susan posted thank you for being vulnerable and sharing. This need to know what their risk game because they really don't until someone they love get sick serene. Right is very empathetic. I so feel you my eighty eight year. Old dad has covert. He's on the east coast. And i can't fly game without a forced to week. Corentin she has more for personal story. Not all empathy. Though there as rachel maddow is quite a polarizing figure from her msnbc. Show catherine it's very direct which she wearing a mask. Talking about medals partner guessing. She was still got it. I'm sure she'd be fine. Calm down emeka yo. Points out well. How healthy was your partner. But in a less polite way but however people are seeing it they were. They were prompted to really respond. Because rachel maddow. She just spilled her heart out to the camera at one point. There's a noise in our house. She's working from home. She's boycotting from home and there's not my house she leaves. The camera goes off fixes. The noise comes back. And you're waiting. You're waiting to hear what she has to say next. You can hear what she had to say at maddow blog on twitter. I wanna ask you about something else. Also trending on social media. The actions of a man in michigan is is getting a lot of attention. Ned stabler is ahead of tech town. Startup incubator in detroit and he gave a passionate speech to the republican members of the wayne county elections board on tuesday about certifying the ballots for president in that county which includes detroit as president trump challenges. Joe biden's win in michigan. Let's listen to a clip and on your side. History won't be on your side your conscience be on your side and more knows when you go to meet your maker. Your soul is going to be very very Femi- those republican board members had refused to certify votes from detroit a city that is predominantly black but quickly reversed after criticism as we know from people like ned someone social media now see him as a hero villain. What are you saying he. He got a virtual standing ovation from so many people. You can find him all the reddit. It public freakout section. I think that what he did really kind of embodies the idea of speaking out when something really moves you but from the villain camp. Kathy says well. He's an unstable left and she doesn't think that he should be talking in that way. He threatens people that don't think the way he does. John smith accused him of race baiting but most people just really appreciated that. He took his moment nets response on twitter folks. I appreciate the love but it wasn't me that got the wayne county board of canvassers to reverse that decision. It was us mostly. It was powerful people of color demanding their glides and giving net last word on one. Femi- me okay. Is host of the stream on al jazeera english. As always thank you. Welcome support for this. Podcast comes from the boston foundation for more than a century a resilient city and region have relied on the boston foundation to bring people together to solve our most serious problems. The foundation's work has been strengthened by hundreds of people who've left legacies to support our community leaving a charitable legacy at the boston foundation is a great way to have an impact now and in the future. Learn more at t b f dot org slash partner. There's an unusual tug of war between the treasury department and the federal reserve that could leave businesses in the lurch now that we're entering a new round of corona virus restrictions and closures treasury secretary. Steve mnuchin sent a letter yesterday. Asking the fed to return unspent money. Congress had allocated for emergency lending programs in the first relief bill. Let's bring an alley belge. Msnbc anchor and economics correspondent for more. Hey allie hey tanya first of all how much money are we talking about. What was the fed using it for so this is an interesting story. I'm not even sure why this is happening right now. But it's a lot of money it's four hundred and fifty five billion dollars in what mnuchin calls unused funding now. Getting the money back from the fed it would end the feds emergency lending program which involves loans to state and local governments remember. They've had cutbacks. Because of covid and to mid sized businesses all the way through the main street business lending program. This money was put out in the cares act which is the first Bill that went out. It includes one hundred and ninety five billion dollars that the fed had already committed to specific programs. But we're talking about four hundred and fifty five billion dollars almost half a trillion dollars. Yeah manila's request sparked real criticism from fed chair. Jerome powell who said the central bank needs this money as an important safety net. What was munitions reasoning. Well he says that congress intended for these funds to expire on december. Thirty first and i remember when we first did this cares. Act not a lot of people. Thought we'd still be talking about this at this level By by november that is the deadline that the act set and he said that the fed's intervention has already in his words achieved its objective Part of the problem is he's using markets as a gauge for this he said markets have responded positively and banks have continued lending. The problem is a lot of these mainstream business that are suffering are not reflected in the stock market at all So mnuchin saying we don't need the money anymore. Give it back to the federal government again as an outgoing treasury secretary with an outgoing administration. It's not clear to me why they're doing this right now. But it has created unusual battle between the fed and the treasury okay to gain a little bit more understanding lawmakers arguing that fed programs Were those programs. Were meant to be temporary but the economy as we know is floundering again as talks on this new relief package are stalled. What is removing those programs actually mean for the long term recovery and the fed's role or one economist Tie likened it to taking away. The lifeboats at the titanic. His point. was you know when the boat left the dock. Nobody needed life the life boats. But when you needed them and they they weren't there that would be a problem. It's not easy for the fed to get this money. It has to be done by an act of congress as we know. The senate has already left for the thanksgiving holiday. We're going to be in a lame duck session and things are getting worse out there with cova. The number infections are increasing. The number of deaths are increasing. Closures are coming again so the sense is that if you take this flexibility away from the federal reserve and things get really bad. A new president probably joe biden is going to have to start negotiations again and it could be months before. Get it out there again. So why don't you leave the money with the fed if in case it's necessary okay. Thirty seconds if the fed does give up the money. Could it be used by congress for the next relief package. It would have to be reallocated. So joe biden would have to start negotiations with congress. He would probably get that done with the house. But again depending on what happens in the senate which we won't know who controls the senate until the georgia runoffs in january fifth. This could be a protracted battle again to get more money to businesses. That's msnbc anchor and economics correspondent ali. Bell she has always thank you. Okay i spent some time on the lettuce farm recently. Where tractors are busy digging furrows. In the dirt this region south west arizona is called the salad bowl of america. Ninety percent of the country's winter lettuce is grown right here in the fields. Around huma and farmer john boltz says the lettuce were standing in front of could soon be in front of you. Oh gosh could could go anywhere across the us and canada. And and if. I was traveling around the country order. Myself a caesar salad or anybody out there less than you could end up on any of their plates or or what have were stepping out into a romain lettuce field here Water is a precious natural resource that we depend on to be able to grow these crops as the old adage goes goes food gross where water flows and right here in this field Water is flowing down these. I hear this crap. We're literally walking towards it right now. We are yeah lettuce is mostly made of water upwards and ninety percent Made of water and all this water's coming from a canal that comes from the colorado river. Which really isn't that far away from here. Yeah it's all It's an amazing system. It moves by Gravity extremely efficient. It's one of the reasons. Why food is so affordable in our country is that were literally standing on. The shoulders of giants came fifty one hundred hundred and fifty years before the put in this infrastructure. Here comes the water. We'd better get out of the way. This is a unique time to be a farmer. In america bolts is wearing a mask to protect against covid. Nineteen he's a trump supporter. I have one vote. My wife has one vote But regardless of who gets elected our biggest thing is that we're going to work with those people to make sure that we're able to continue to produce what the american people need. And that's what our great american republican democracy is is about still bullets will be sorry to see the republican president go. He liked to see president trump cutting regulations. He doesn't mind the trade war with china. We grow cotton and we grow some other crops that are traded beyond the border of the united states I know a lot of people and in my profession across the country. we're not in favor of the tariffs But i think most people do appreciate that that are in farming. Do appreciate that. An administration was trying to bring a little bit of balance back to pretty hefty imbalances for a trade has been happening. The economy's tough were in the middle of a pandemic. How're you doing. How's business down here Well the the last year for us has been very similar to everybody else. The products we grow in the winter months down here. They won't store and a grain bin. They don't sit on a shelf waiting for people to buy done. They have a two to three weeks. Shelf life At best so when we see places around the country shutdown restaurants shutdown. We saw billions of dollars. Go to waste The natural resources that went into growing those crops go to go to waste lots of knee-jerk reactions that maybe didn't make a lot of sense in terms of shutdowns. As far as as far as lockdowns shutdowns everyone describe it so it's been a very challenging year bolts still knows the risk is growing as covert erupts across the country and i could see that has workers were being careful as another tractor ruled by. You know i noticed the guys in the tractors in the cavs. They're wearing masks. Yeah there they have to get out from time to time and adjust things. They have to get out and talk to guys. It's just some of. It's easier not to take it off and put it back on all the time The far yeah we. We're using mass We're having to work together. you know. it's a big deal to us to make sure worker. Stay safe i hear you but you know As you will know the agriculture community has been sort of in the spotlight during the pandemic places like fish houses meat processing plants and in fields like this because well people maybe working outside you know i noticed some some men working in the field out here on my way over and there was a big bus that they all came in together. I could tell so. Do you think your workers feel safe. I think they do. I had one of them asked me how. How did you know that the that the outbreak would would get this bad. Why did you work so hard to help. Prepare all of us as employees to employ the right practices and everything. And i said. Well we just look at the science. You look at the best advice from experts. We took that advice and we put it into practice. California has seen deadly outbreaks of covid. Nineteen on its farms when i asked the yuma county health department if this area has seen any the answer was not yet. But let's put that into context. Fifty thousand workers descend the region every winter. Many of them on temporary work visas from mexico. They pick lettuce by hand in the sun fix sprinklers watering this. The workers packaged produce ship. It off to restaurants grocery stores around the country. The health department says the group to offer testing housing and health checks for workers who do get sick but for people like emma torres all the uncertainty leaves an ugly question hanging in the air while right now what if as in what. If there's an outbreak torres is director of a local farm worker advocacy group. Called compass seen frontier us. We think about basing hygiene and they say. What's your hands or a return. They go up to a bathroom by an autobiography is not available as water and soap is not available. There is a keen bathroom. Is that all those then. That should be a concern in that scenario. Well i have. I don't curate. I have seen it so it's been. I grew up in a farm worker myself. So you know. I i am familiar with the you know how the environment is there. Any way to know if outbreaks half inning within this worker community. If nobody's testing them i mean. Is there widespread testing. Going on on the farms what happened. Peter was that when covered starring. Everybody were shelter at home and all that that was last march. Fifteen or something like that are precautions. In what's ending that time so we didn't see a lot of that and So last time not here. Because the the work ended body in celinas we heard. We heard of the outbreaks california. And they were. This are the same workers that we work with. They migrate upstream so we have not seen it because they have not been here. We're staying in but the season is picking up now picking up right now so we don't know that's why i say not beginning. I don't know i don't know we. We're praying and hoping that he wouldn't and again not just praying and hoping. But we're being proactive. And again given the this organizing ourselves to provide information and and the p. to prevent from an infected because we don't one outbreak with nobody wants to outbreak. Definitely you know because that will be at this hostel for our industry so in a way the virus is on the doorstep just waiting for a chance to get in torres says. She's concerned about all those farm buses that carry workers every day from the border to the fields. The passengers appear worried too. I saw many of them covering their entire faces. So only is for showing and when they travel in this enclose vehicles that thirty or more of them for half an hour or an hour their risk increases and she worries about the long lines on the mexican side of the border where workers gathered at the port shoulder to shoulder waiting to cross before dog. I guess it is very concerning to me because they should. There should be maybe a faster lying. Where they don't have to be staying there for hours then didn't know one after the other and because it is a risk for for them and for price it all up and it's exhausting work even without a pandemic. Can i tell you. Firm workers have it always tough because they don't have a year round Job they don't have a job that provides infringe benefa- they don't have Health insurance that you know very few of them. There's this percentage maybe thirty forty percent of people that might have health insurance while they're working they say that for them. That aren't even noticed something being worse than the other because they've been always under this precarious Conditions living under precarious conditions. So now a new administration coming in. What's your message to. Joe biden from farm workers in yuma arizona. Well my message is that as their as a farm worker population has been now dim. Essential that they would be given Then the same attention. Other attention as other essential workers provide them with the benefits with health. Insurance you know that they deserve we. We need to have our healthy workforce. That's all so. That is where i see that we have common ground with a request industry because they want a healthy workforce healthy workforce make sense. Considering how much. We rely on these farms in yuma for the food will be eating this Central that's the one and only will smith performing the opening wrap to fresh prince of bel air for reunion special that. Hbo released this week to mark. The show's thirtieth anniversary. And that's not the only news in the world of tv nostalgia. The peanuts holiday specials won't be on network. tv this year npr tv critic. Eric duggan's is here. Hey eric so let's start with the fresh prince reunion. Will smith hosts a conversation with the cast main cast as as they celebrate. The show's thirtieth year anniversary. I got really geeks saying the promos on instagram. I still can't believe that it's been thirty years. What do you think is. This must watch tv. Oh if you're a fan of this show you gotta watch this Will smith is of course the defacto host bringing together all the folks who used to be on the show except for james avery who played his uncle who who Who died but We'll smith tells the story about how quincy jones had him audition for the show. Doing quincy jones birthday party in his house and Will smith didn't want to do it. He wanted some time to prepare because he'd never acted really acted before at quincy pulls into the side says look everybody who needs to say yes to this show is in that next room waiting for you and it was and then alphonso roberto who played Carlton goes how did i know you for thirty years and not hear that story. So that's that's that's not necessarily a story that a lot of people have heard but he told he told that story. And there's a lot of great reminiscing about what the show means because it was a way of sort of taking all this the energy of all this rat culture that was going on and presenting it on network. Tv in a way that was frankly you know relatively safe but also away The young people felt like their culture was being represented in the sitcom it was a more powerful show that i think we even realized when when it was on the air. Yeah well this special also features a conversation between will and janet hubert the original at verve. Who who left the show really on bad terms. I mean your npr colleague. Isha harris wrote a moving nuanced piece. About what. Janet went through on the show. What's it like seeing these two actors reunited after decades of of what we have heard as bitter resentment. Yeah well it's interesting because it's like it would have been weird if they had done the reunion without having her on a so. They had to sort of figure out a way to sort of reconcile experience. The was always a sense you know. She had a very bitter departure from the show would was sort of talked about a month. Fans was that she was fired. So the two of them come together and they kind of admit that they didn't really understand what the other person was going through these a great clip where she kinda confronts him about what happened and let's play a little bit of it. Hollywood disowned me. My family said you've ruined our name. And i wasn't unprofessional on the set. I just stop talking to everybody. Because i didn't know who to trust because i been banished. And they said it was you who banish me. And i understand you were able to move forward but you know those words calling a black woman. Difficult in hollywood is kiss of death. It's the kiss of death. It's hard enough in your dark back on in this business and so that was important here. Her saying you know. I'm an older Dark skinned black woman in me. Losing this job you know essentially killed my career. I for fans of the show i think it was. I think it would just be an amazing moment to say i'm getting. I'm gearing up to watch that for sure. Okay something else that. A lot of folks watch during this season. Are the peanuts holiday specials. Here's a sample of their thanksgiving. tv classic. What's all the commotion. We've got another holiday to worry about. It seems thanksgiving day is upon us. I can sympathize. Sally exactly but these specials. We broadcast differently this year. Thanks to apple much to the chagrin of viewers who look forward to them. What's going on here. Yes so basically apple but The rights to distribute the series. There was a huge backlash to this. So apple set up something where they're providing The thanksgiving special in the christmas special to pbs and pbs. Kids they're going to have a a a couple of days where they get to do that. And then apple tv plus also gonna make it available for free on streaming for a couple of days you know. I've been talking with people and social media and they kind of feel like these films are almost public domain. Like they friend. they've been So houston watch them. Whenever the holiday rolls around that they feel any sense that they're placed somewhere where you have to pay to see them is kind of in a an affront. You know something like this just reminds us that sometimes even our most treasured sentimental media are the creations of big companies are owned by big companies. That will do whatever they feel. They need to do to leverage the most profit off of them. That's kind of a depressing thanksgiving message. Isn't it sorry about that but you know. Hey that's that's life in the big media city on that no. That's npr tv critic. Eric duggan's is always thank you so much always a pleasure. Here now is a production of npr in wb. You are in association with the bbc world service. I'm tanya moseley this.

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General Ho Spital Kate Nurse Jack Oh. That would be you, but thank you to Walter Junior for those strings of medically induced a gaze. Walter chest sin while good to see you again. My friend and we are thrilled to be joined all the way from the east coast by the hilarious and talented and brilliant bridget Ta. Hello thank you so much for having me well. What an Intro! No thanks! Nice for great to be with year I mean to think just the last time we were together. We were jacking I anna. We were flying Willy Nilly around the country while probably covid nineteen was spreading. But what now look at us now here we are I know we did you I had no idea that would be one of the last times I was doing a podcast thing I. I wasn't remote in my kitchen A. Man. What time so bridge House DC was the the vibrations in the cabin? I really would have no because I haven't left my house at a very long time. I think the VIBE here like we're lucky that we have a mayor who seems to be on it? We get very clear information from our mayor every day about the numbers and the cases and all of that. I'm lucky for that. Because some people don't have that kind of leadership, certainly don't have that kind of leadership federally, so it's Nice to have. Someone like a grownup is in charge. Word. Have, weird weird like. Are there weird products that are having shortages you know like? You can't get garlic I. Don't know. WHO The garlic love is in Los, Angeles, but if you're the garlic, connect will holler at me, 'cause I'm in for at least to pounce. Garlic! Ours is definitely flower like everybody has decided how they're getting. The pandemic is baking. Oh, you. People can't find fire, and I, actually have a friend who is a professional baker. She's like I can't make my. My good because everybody has decided I remember Baker now I need flowers. We'll definitely flour yeast. Everyone's doing that like sour dough starter. It's interesting. We are all coping in these very weird ways like there's a pandemic I. Better get really into gardening. I'm not at that level of of pandemic yet where I've gone into the baking phase I. Don't know if I will. But. It's always interesting to see. I've been surprised at the kinds of people I've seen suddenly. Be Like I'm making my own yeast, and you're actually making like Pruneau but I. Guess That's you do. Yeah those people are way more ambitious than I am. I will. Be Picked Rhett as the one new skill. You've picked up like based teaching preschoolers over zoom, or like monitoring like educations. Essentially, that's your new yeah, and that very poorly. What is? A parent. What is this time like someone with guys I don't have kids. What is it like with? Kids you know I've got a today. My three year old is a four year old. He's a man now. He will be going out and getting a job now and a tattoo. Yes yes, but it's it's all right. It's a fun age like four and two. It's okay for this. Because like sometimes they'll ask really sad questions like how come I never get to see my friends? Or why can I see my friends for my birthday? But then they kind of forget about that after a couple of minutes. So, yeah, I mean. It's tricky, but it's it's good. It's a lot. It's a lot of fun to spend a lot of time with them right now. Or you hit them with the overly complex answer. It's like well because there's an elected official at the top refuses to accept you know I. Guess The generally accepted reality and science around the topic therefore completely botched the situation and has led to I. Mean just really poor outcomes for everyone so. That's why. They have an endless amount of patients to just keep asking me what things are and why things are the way they are, so I'd. been stumped. What's the latest thing you've been stumped of trying to explain to? Yeah? I can't think of it, but I've definitely been stumped on the regular of. How to how to? Convey very complicated. Questions. One that I got within the past week. Is Why do things die? Oh which is why end Hold on, yeah, why do they actually I never thought about that? No I was saying that was a question from you to. Say Hey Jack. Ask You something do why. Do things done man. Real quick. Bridget. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment first. We're GONNA. Tell our listeners couple of the things we're talking about. We're going to look at this article from former CEO of a permanent, which is one of the biggest hospital. Chains in the industry. He's a doctor and he just had some good perspective on sort of where we're at and what it actually means to kind of. Open the country back up like what that decisions actually about. We got a yet another. Just keeping the ball in the air with regards to our interest in Mike Pence's decision not to wear the mask at the Mayo Clinic. So we'll talk about that. That came at the end of last week. Trump is mad. He's he's furious. He can't believe that there's polling numbers I think. There was a quote from him that I'm not gonNA. Lose fucking Joe Biden. Like he just he has this entitlement because he's like killing. Biden at. Fundraising, and so he just thinks you know this. This should be easy. I actually woke up this morning to an email from one Donald J trump. Because I I get that Breitbart. Mailing on that Breitbart mailing list to just kind A. That Breitbart board of trustees. No me, but yeah, it was. It was interesting to see the tone. He's taken right now. And then we're going to try and pick a movie Fr. To rewatch over the weekend for our Monday rewatch. We are going to look at America's Horny as it relates to the rest of the world. All of that. There's all these Cova documentaries that are heading our way. Of that plenty more but I bridge. We like to ask our guests. What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are question something for my search history that is revealing about who I am. The last thing I did a google. Deep Dive on was Janet Hubert Aka original mom on fresh prince of Bel Air. I don't know if you saw recently they had. Of the fresh prince has. and my whole thing is you know if you know Janet Hubert was originally the first, and I would say the best the most iconic mom on the show. And then she was replaced by another actress, and she clearly never got over this. This has been a beef that she has held for thirty years. She has commented on it for thirty years anytime. But the fresh prince cast as anything. She responds and is still salty till this day. That woman is a pillar of salt, and honestly I respect it so i. saw the fresh prince cast had reunited and thought. Oh! I'll have to see Janet. Had something to say some response yeah, I really respect a long held beef like it's been thirty years still mad. What happened with so did you have anything to say or no? She didn't find that she had anything to say. But the last time the cast reunited like two years ago, she was like. Of course. These assholes are reuniting without me like same shit. Angry what! Basically her version of events is that Colorado. I honestly like. Me Obviously. because. I get it. became a few shades lighter when. When what's your name? Daphne Maxwell Reid L. Good memory I have pulled up right now. New on? NEW ON I. Know I shouldn't have said that she. She deserves to have her full name yes. Offering names, it sounds like what happened was that when the show initially started? It wasn't supposed to be just about fresh prince just about his character. All the other side characters had plotlines like you saw out. There was a African American studies professor. She had her own plotlines like the episode where she wants to be a dancer and old dance episode, right? She had good. She had good plotlines, so it sounds like as the show progressed. Audience is just really wanted. More will Smith and she was like wait. No, I didn't sign on to be on the Will Smith Show I the be on a show as They wrote her off. You know more Bel Air less fresh prints. Yes and you know to this day. She is still so salty about it like it clearly made a huge impression on her I. Don't blame her I just kind of respect that she's been angry for this long like if this. If this beef was if this people the person it would be? It's thirty. She's been nurturing for so long. I mean she was in the original. Broadway production of cats so. No I will not sign I. Don't. I've never seen this I. Don't know how to pronounce the name, but says Huber was the original Tanta meal tantamount. In the first Broadway, chanting meal of the first Broadway run of cats, so maybe that cat's head on she was like. She was like. No I don't know who this young man is. Who just randomly met Quincy Jones. Will this show will be about me. I respect to beef though. Was My at the start of fresh prince, according to Wikipedia. So that makes me feel old as fuck. What do you mean like at at the time where she took the role? Yeah, no google to aunt, Vivian and you know they break out the actress. Janet Huber for one through three Daphne Maxwell Reid. Four through six and then age of the character thirty nine through forty five, so that was yeah, that was forty. This is forty. Yeah, it's funny. They seem so like all on a show like when I was watching a can't I was like. Oh, they're grown up now. That's basically my ads. Fuck you up, because you you, you live with these perceptions of what age is and what it looks like and what the behavior is, and then you grow up, and then you're like. Don't subscribe to those weird beliefs and you like. Am I in my mid thirties I feel like I'm fourteen I think. In Sports, my mind like it's weird. How yeah like my mom like now? Man, when you're like when you're like thirty eight, you look like an old person. Because what TV look like as from my perspective as a child, it's fucked. I definitely identify my age more as a Hillary's age than an. Age for, right right like Hillary seemed very old and mature and cool to me when I was a kid. I show at the old this time Hillary at this point I can't see myself being older than anyone. yong-chol fill. My brother used to have such a massive crush on the actress that Played Hillary. He would like he's going to be so embarrassed. Saying hoping ever here, is it? He would write her letters. I was obsessed with her. who wasn't Catherine Parsons. I loved her, too when she was in major pain. Here, we go. She's crossing over into the mainstream. Everyone will know the Queen. What else was she was she in ladies man she was. She's been. If you think since then, but I don't know I. Don't know what what exactly. She made her career like whether or not she was trying I. Don't know what happened. Karyn Parsons I said Catherine Parsons who excuse me. Yeah put some respect honor. Yeah, absolutely botched that apologize rather is so pissed off right and I. Know He's GonNa. Find You I know what is something you'd think is underrated bridge. Something I think is underrated. And this is coming from someone who is not a sports person at all Dennis, Rodman. The nineties you know. People have been talking about Dennis Rodman lately I unfortunately have nothing to add from a sports perspective, but. I watch this clip and it's also related to my overrated thing as well. Watch this clip of Oprah interviewing him, and he's talking about his gender and his sexuality, and it's funny, because when I was young I feel like everybody treated him like a joke was Greek and what you were saying about gender, and about sexuality was actually like a very progressive and he was talking about how. He thinks in some in some capacity could be gay or by in mentally, but he grew up around women until he was always sort of discomfort like not comfortable around men. You know really being honest about gender and playing with gender, and all these interesting ways, and I feel like at least in my community back then he was like a freak to laugh at when actually he was like really progressive, and if he had said that today we will be applauding him, but back then we treated it like a big joke. Yeah No, totally by ninety standards. He was lake. Something to Gawk at, but I totally agree. He was like he would have been. I. It really is interesting to think about what his career would be like if he were in league today absolutely. Yeah it, also, it's interesting how he would also play with that because he would do one thing, it would start off small where people would point something out, and then he would antagonize like all right. What's me turn this up? Even more to the point is like watched me. Wear this wedding dress right, and then now you have some time because before you were uncomfortable. Because I had too many earrings and my fingernails painted right. Right now to try this one on definitely I loved that and I think we I feel like he really held a of holding a mirror of to our misconceptions and our anxieties, and are just comfort around a lot of things when it comes to gender and sex and the fact that Michael Jordan had to go drag him out of bed on the Vegas Strip during the season like personally with his own Michael Jordan. Hands Pretty. Great. What is something you think is overrated? This is a little controversial. Take. I'm going to own it tough for me to say this, but. Oprah Winfrey to say I mean I. Have Been Oprah Oprah. Stan. Whole eighth color purple is one of my favorite movies performance in. It was life changing for me. But like a I watched the interviewer Dennis Rodman is being interviewed by Oprah and she constantly like. Are You gay? Are you gay or you buy you buy? And he's like expressing this very progressive. Expression of gender and sexuality and she can only and again it's the nineties or whatever, but she can only understand it through. So are you gay or what like? That's the only way she can understand it and today. You know in time of Corona virus. If we're going to be really real, the reason why we have a lot of these like huckster, fake doctors like Dr Oz and your doctor. Phil's is Oprah. Oprah you like. That's something Oprah. Yeah you'd like Oprah to do something about it or at least own be like. Hey, like talk to them. pull massage. Them. Hey I give you this fucking door. Do this with the fucking platform. Exactly so I don't want to you know. Blame a woman for the behavior of a man, but she did give these people a platform right as part of me is like Oprah, honey like Dr. Villafane Walsh it on TV? About Corona virus. And, even Dr Oz is like yeah, oh, people can die was a problem. When she? Like when she first gave the world doctors, fill and. Were were they as bad like I feel like they might have taken things up a step or two, since then, but I do think the Rodman things really interesting to think about because I I do feel like she's always been really good at like mining. The like is like knowing what she's. She's almost a mirror for like what we are warts, and all like. She's good at like being in touch with whatever. You know general thoughts and ideas and morality is at a given time, and you'll see like outdated shit if you look back at. What she was saying and doing in the eighties and nineties. Yeah I think that's true I. Agree that she really has a way of putting her finger on something in the culture and sort of poking at it, and perhaps just like revealing Darpa stuff about us that we don't want to put a mirror up to and like you know I think in the ninety s people were obsessed with like our is so and so gay gay. We how we? Understood how a lot of people understood sexuality and there was like I I remember growing up where like the worst you could be was gay, and that like, if someone was gay or even the insinuation, they had to go on TV and. Have a press conference about it so really I mean she wasn't alone in in that in that attitude. Of course we I mean her, because there was still a lot of spectacle in her show to like aside from like early on, there were a lot of things just like yeah, make a mess Oprah. Other time then I think she got. It's interesting, because yeah, you see her evolve as a host to producer of her content, but I was just reading the first time she met Dr Phil was when she was being sued by a cattlemen in the beef industry in Texas, and she had hired Dr Phil to counsel her through this difficult period, and that's what she learned heard head on approach to life. Counseling Dr Phil so yeah, that's. We have we have this lawsuit with the beef industry to thank for the emergence of Dr Phil were they mad at her. I, saying beef was like not good for you. Basically, there's claiming gas. She was defaming the industry. Segment that she had done, so she's can't win. You should go back and watch. Some of her old shows and segments that said like some of them are bucking wild. Remember when she lost all that weight, and she pulled a wagon full of fat out on the show. The demonstrate how much weight she laws was like literally a wagon stacked with like that to demonstrate how much she had lost. It was remember I think who someone I think made lampooned music in living color. Somebody did something a similar. Yeah, look? Oh, here, Michelle with the wild screen share. Real quick! This is the beauty of zoom now since we can be there. That's the wagon. Looks like sucks. What do. Oh my God cat. Yeah, there's just all kinds of I I'm must actually there's there. There's an archive right where you can get. All Old Oprah's 'cause. I I think I need to do that. It is wild like that. That has a rabbit hole I will gladly go down. But I mean I think she had people on who were helping perpetuate the myth of the satanic panic in the eighties and I know that the Rainbow Parties Sexual. moral panic neck is specifically associated with her so I mean she's got. She's got those shows in her past. That are like the dumbest that America has to offer. Yeah I. Just I think in the end you like. We look at Oprah as like a fucking near God, so she should be able to from mount. Just take back Dr Phil and Dr Oz is fame that she's so great. You know generously gave. She should be able to take away. that. Power as our protector and maker of lists of things we should buy on Amazon prime. Absolutely. And finally what is a myth with people think is true. You know to be false. This is another Fago Take Evan defending, take twitter all yesterday I think it is a myth that wealthy white tech dudes who are like known for like one specific thing like got big on one specific success is a myth that those guys are uniquely smart or uniquely geniuses or Are the kind of people that we should be going to for guiding advice or guiding. Takes on other issues and I'll say it. I'm talking about Elon Musk. Musk yes, what I'm GONNA. Say it. I'M GONNA. Go there alone. MOSK maybe isn't that motive. A guy like he's tweeting wild shit about corona. Virus, dangerous, unhelpful show, corona virus, and it's one of those things where. Certainly, he's very successful. He has a lot of business acumen. I'm going to say he doesn't have. That's not true, but I think this idea that we should be listening to him. For thoughtful takes about a public health pandemic it's is is a wild. Like. I think that someone who is demonstrated that they can't be trusted with their own platform, perhaps is not someone who is like uniquely a genius. Who invites like chaos agent Azalea banks into their home and life. Maybe that's not smart. Right like maybe he. Has Some blind spots which take the is. Inviting zillion banks into your home, it will always end was some kind of twitter moment right like. Right do that. You get what you get like. How how could you really be? Rating with. A song right and she live tweeted being there and being there something she liked we did being in his house, and basically she was like. Oh, all he does. This do drugs all day. They're so fucked and her being in his home led to his own shareholders. Both Grimes and daily banks about his business. Clearly that was not a savvy business decision. I don't sleep. It's like anything you have these bill, Gates and Elon. Musk figures that help like a certain. We can we can sort of project our own ambitions onto them, but like you see they just did it on their own, but not knowing the extreme privilege Bill Gates, even came from like how early he was interacting with computers before anyone else or even like Elon Musk how we always talk about up fucking rubies and loose rise in his pockets. It's like we all do. Yeah like when you start there when they're. There's that much capital around you as a child. You're already starting a few levels up and so your your shitty ideas. You'll be around. People help you mold those very quickly. and you can. You can move from there, but yeah, it's you know like they help us feel like you know there's a new Tony Stark's or some shit where it's like this guy's sick dude. He makes slam doors smokes weed like folk, and he calls divers trying to rescue. Kids pedophile such a hero man yeah. There's this weird thing that happened where. Jeffrey Dahmer like came into the public eye right after silence of the lambs came out, and everybody was obsessed with cannibals, and we sort of like manifested this like real world cannibal into existence, and I think I think that aspect of him was over exaggerated, but there are these weird times. When like really iconic. Fictional characters pop up, and then we ll create our real world version I I agree that. Elon Musk we just. We needed a Tony Stark character. Like somebody who could help be the figurehead and so like the cool person who knows how to do stuff while like tech was. Kind of takeover our world and becoming cool. Yeah, and I think it's easy to get to feel that he's larger than life. Because when you look at the things that are being achieved, they're not insignificant by any stretch of the imagination, so it's not like a total fucking smoke and mirrors show and I don't mean to say that anyone who's like wowed by him is wrong. I think you can understand sure those things are cool, but his takes on everything else I can't do. Tell me about ugly as trucks and like electric cars fuck aside from that Bro I. Don't care about your music taste because you can't wrap. Your look all dusty out of there is nothing about you else. I need to know outside of your expertise, so let's leave it there. Sir, that's exactly how I feel I think that we I think you're totally right that we need these larger than life figures, and then we assume that because someone is good at something specific that that means that they're going to be a genius when it comes to everything and I just think that like if there's one thing that is pandemic has taught us that is that not everybody has useful or helpful take and just because you're good at one thing. That that's going to apply to like I literally public health emergency bright I mean yeah I guess at the end of the day to. Is this your ego right like you feel compelled to scream shit that you scream. Vow Shit! You don't know about because your ego cannot help itself. That's why he's like this is fascism. SHUT THE FUCK UP AND NOBODY I get it! You have a captive audience on shareholder, call or whatever, but like leave it alone. Yeah, I mean the other thing. Is that like? People being smarter than other people is like maybe a degree level of like you know. They're twenty percent thirty percent smarter, but because of the society that we live in there like a million times richer and more powerful, and therefore it just like think that also gets reflected in there and just like how we judge them. We just assume will. They must be a million times smarter. Smarter and there's just no such thing. Totally wait. What did you say that mix was between knowledge and skill? I would say I was just saying that like you know a person who's smarter than other people might be like twenty thirty percent smarter, but right there, because like these people are like millions of times richer than other people more powerful like they're to I. think that gets. Projected onto how we view these people and it's just right. I think it's pretty I think it's pretty well documented right because it's ten percent luck. Twenty percent skill, fifteen percent concentrated power of will five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain and one hundred percent reason to remember the name. Okay, I got it. From. Fort Minor's. You. Bugging from. WHO. I'm sorry Bro. We Park has be fucked up. Let's take a quick break to ponder that that reality and we'll be right back. Hey Miles. Yak I'd from were even it's jarring, even though we're miles apart. The Way I allows apart house the coir treating you I for one okay again, spending a lot time with my significant other weird flex, but okay I'm also doing the same thing as chilling. And you know what this time indoors has actually given me the time to pay more attention to my down doors, my downstairs as as called down doors. You know I'm talking about our sponsor manscaping because they can help you us all out. Make the most of our time together. Because basically they provide clean hygienic efficient products that helps us to shave our balls miles. 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He wrote this article that I thought underlined like three ways that we're not thinking about the process of reopening. Reopening in the most accurate way one of the things he points out is that whenever we stopped sheltering in place and we? We will have to stop. The virus will come back and people will get sick. like the the idea is. We aren't quarantining and Assu like hoping. The virus will go away while we're quarantining. We're quarantining to give hospitals time to make room for us when we get sick and you know prepared doctors, so we don't make Dr Sick, but he's like this isn't like fatalistic or pessimistic. This is just a biological fact that like once people stop social distancing. You know people. The will see the numbers. Go back up again right well I think some people are actually connecting their own personal boredom with like. Yeah, Dude. I'm so bored, so this corona virus is probably balked right now. Yeah. And then he also just talking about how yeah I. Mean it kind of all ties back to that, but like the idea of I I had assumed that we could still like. You know what once we started testing and people knew like whether A. They had it or not. We could like quarantine and sort of every. It would go away. And he said that that ship sailed back in February like it's too widespread to do the contact tracing that they did in China. So in order to reopen the country, you just need to go location by location and look at stuff like whether the hospitals have space for all the people who are going to get sick when you reopen. And then just like put things in place policies in place in those locations. And have testing so that. You know. People have some idea of whether they have have the. Virus or not, and then he just emphasized the importance of are not I I've been seeing more and more headlines about the fact that like the numbers that were paying attention, which is like number of people who have it and the number of people who have died are not. Like that first of all, they're somewhat arbitrary. Because we're under counting the number of people who died in vast lender, counting the number of people who have it because of how bad the testing is but it's also just kind of a confusing number, and the the best way to look at it is something called are not which is the rate like basically if I if you have if a disease has an are not, it's written like our and then a little like zero below. Like an U. T., yeah, and if if it has a are not of one that means for every one person who gets sick, they will pass the disease onto one other person, so the rate will be flat and so anything over one, and you're gonNA see the curve bending up words and anything under word under one. You're going to see the curve bending downwards, and so he's just saying like that is the most important number to pay attention to. The, founders of instagram created a website called RT alive. which rate of transmission And they have a broken out by state, and it's basically you know we've made progress through social distancing having like ninety percent of the country shut down and so all of these are not numbers are going from like wall over one two under one over the course of the past month, but you know they'll go right back up once we stop social distancing so That's kind of the number to be paying attention to because it also takes into account like population size and. It's just a it was interesting, I. It's like an article a short article, but it's definitely going to change the way that I. Am looking at and thinking about the overall issue. Yes, something that you said that I really want to amplify like plus one is the idea that we really don't because of how the testing is around. We don't know probably won't know the actual numbers of who got it from it. That's one of my biggest concerns. Is that after this is all over? We won't even ever get a clear picture of what we were dealing with and I. Just I hate the idea that this history that we're living through, so it's going to be a raised not preserved, and we won't even have an accurate count of what's happening, and that's something that I guess I associate that more with. A bygone history you know in twenty twenty I would think that we would have. We would be able to preserve an accurate count of what we what we all recently lived through and coming to realize that that's not the case is really not just scary about sort of. psychically disorienting and a kind of way well I, think also, too. We could put the effort into it and endeavour to try accurately determined what the true cost was by. You know speaking health experts like people in other countries have said you know how much they suspect actually what other deaths they would, probably as doctors attribute to this because of lack of care and things like that, but just knowing that the tactics that have been being taken here of just. Just being like well, it's not test are initially. We just didn't want to test because we didn't want to get an embarrassing number on the test. So that's not taste so yeah. I mean having to know that we're also fighting that like the suppression of that knowledge is really also totally fucked up and frightening. Yeah, absolutely I mean with Puerto Rico and Kane Maria. The way that they like eventually figured out was just like looking at the overall rate of. Deaths like at that time normally and then comparing that to overall rate of deaths like during the time after the hurricane. I feel like that's probably what we'll end up having to resort to hear. Although there are a orders in place in a lot of places in America that are like preserve the body, or at least a tissue sample so that we can test everything like once the crisis is over just so we have a better idea but yeah, there's a lot of chaos and a lot of political forces at work, which is a bummer I was just kind of looking are just thinking about just with Puerto Rico and the death toll like how? There were so many competing numbers. And you know I I'm not sure that the official version. That's the thing it's like we can compare that and say that's probably what happened, but the version that the government is GonNa acknowledged. It wasn't that bad and I. think that's where. That's that's where I think the real hard bit of coming out of this is GonNa happen where we have to really look in the I like all the people we've let down, and how quickly some people are will be willing to ignore that like our own neighbors and rather would move onto the comfort of a world. Were you know such widespread pain didn't exist, but you know I hope hopefully people can confront that a bit more coming out of this because I think that's the only positive thing we can take out of this. Try Not. Replicate, this kind of disregard for our neighbors. That got us to this place to begin with. Absolutely and I think for me. As soon as I heard that the like, and this is not surprising to me. As soon as I heard that Kobe was ravaging black and Brown communities I knew that was going to change the public perception of the virus. I knew it I knew it immediately and. It's just. I think even I mean I. I take no joy and saying this it pains me to say I think a lot of people, even progressive people even people that I lake respect I think there is something about black and Brown death black and brown pain. That doesn't hit the same way for them, and I think it's no surprise at all of these reopen Michigan. Reopen this and that all of these rallies we saw after it became clear which communities were at the most at risk from this. I think that's not an accident. I think that like we have to sort of think that this will hopefully like. You were saying miles we will have to. Look at some hard truths look themselves if you don't want to look at about ourselves about how we treat our neighbours about how we view them if we view them the same way as view ourselves to. Where we are they going to have to a lot of? Looking in. At the end of this hope do and you know and I challenge people to look within yourself to think of what your response is to hearing things like that and not to judge yourself, but you know we were a product of this entire system that we've been raised in as Americans so look at that for a second. At least give yourself the moment say Oh, maybe I I'm looking that that not as humanely as I could. I might not be looking that in this with the same amount of compassion as I, might if it were someone who looked. Like me came from the exact place I did it's hard. It is fucking, are you? Don't develop those kinds of skills overnight and I understand I. Don't you know I'm a bit pessimistic I don't count I. Don't count on most people coming out of this learning those lessons but I'm hoping that people because there is this time of like you know relative slowness in terms of like the pace of life that you can for a moment take stock and understand that we are living in like a system that is breaking down. And it's and you might just be. Looking at a piece of bread that has mold on you just not at the moldy part yet, but the motherfucker is molding, so you can be do the hard bit and recognize that maybe your piece of bread is not has not molded over yet, but it's coming, and we need to really look out for the part that are moldy okay moldy bread metaphor over. I mean I just want. I agree so much I wanNA share something I think. If I have a vulnerable moment, you know it isn't easy to acknowledge your blind spots in your privileges and all of this item at earlier in the week where? I'm a huge fan I love beyond say in the behalf in the behalf. All of that beyond, says Mother Tina. Knowles shared an image on instagram of a family friend, who unfortunately passed away from corona virus, and she shared a picture of how beyond say when a child was a flower girl on her wedding, this woman, a medical, professional or first responder, a nurse and I shared that and I was. Thinking of the Knowles family, this is so sad. It's almost like why are you thinking of Anos family? Why are you not making it out this? Like woman who was a nurse who was at the front lines of this pandemic shouldn't shouldn't. Shouldn't she be the one that you're keeping in your thoughts? Not necessarily beyond saying her family and I was like you know what you're right like what is and I had to really take a beat and be like what is it in me that? When I heard this news, my first thought was like Oh poor beyond, say family, and not like. Wow. This woman was a nurse. She died lost her life, biting this pandemic and I immediately dislike it I had to really sit with that. It was uncomfortable I had to really sit with will. Is it the fact that? Celebrity and that I really like her. I feel like I know her in heavy quotes. I had to really do some sitting with that and it wasn't fun, and it wasn't comfortable, but I really had to I I should be able to better than that and I have to. Interrogate why I wasn't in that moment. You know I think that. I think you're right. This is a moment for all of us to be doing that kind of thinking, and it's not easy. You know we're all products of this. No. Let's talk about. The president and how he's feeling right now because the stress might be getting to him, he apparently recently just. Raided his. Campaign Manager Brad Park Pascale Pascal. Doesn't matter. You don't deserve the respect of a proper pronunciation of his name, but he went. He was the digital guy on the first campaign. And now he's the full-on campaign manager. You. Don't want that job. It seems like it's the president now. Some bad numbers are coming out following his discussion of how we should be injecting bleach doctor. Didn't say in. Just saying that it could be it could. You could have a function of disinfecting. That was the intent said that okay. If I was, I was joking. Yeah exactly all man. Let me get a fucking. Let me get a Jumbo Sim. Sunlight real quick redtop sunlight, so brad par scale. He really tried Uh, it seemed like you know. It was clear to most people. What the? The campaign roadmap was just fucking ring the bell of the economy. We've never it's N-. Don't risk it now. Don't risk it now. Come on home to Donald Trump where we don't give a fuck about anybody, but we'll pretend for until November so after the pandemic hit it basically just up ended everything, and because these people are so inelegant in their thinking, and that is such a nice way of saying it. They are really scrambling to figure out what the fuck to do so I. Think one of the first things. was that. You know a people were saying okay. Maybe do these get in front of these people or whatever get your name out there because you can't do rallies anymore because that's what he loves. And then the shit started going south in the rallies, because these weren't like leaks that were happening. He was just doing this shit. In full view of the public with cameras rolling, and naturally the numbers started tanking, so at trump got so pissed. He threatened to sue par scale. SCALL-. Because, the numbers were so bad now just he threatened to sue his campaign manager speakers use like what the fuck are. These numbers I should sue you. For doing your job. y'All's amazing so again. This is a man who's completely incapable of even understanding what his role is in reality and existing. As another life form, and how other people may view you as this existing life for him, so another interesting thing and some of these articles say that a few days before the Lysol present Great Lysol powerpoint presentation he did. He was confronted with like really bad poll numbers, not just from par scale, but from. Mitt Romney's Niece Arana. What's her anyway? She's the chair of the RNC. And these numbers were basically saying Joe Biden will fucking smoke you in November because these performances are so fucking bad and they were begging him. They said look. If you can't stop doing the briefings like our suggestion is the reason these numbers are bad is because of these fucked up briefings now we can dial back or if you've got to be out there. Don't answer any questions. That's something they suggested to him. This damn faked. Being quiet would actually be better like you know what you can do. Improve Your numbers to stop talking. Yeah, I mean that's what they're. That's what they're saying, but they have to say in weird ways of like. You can do them, but just don't answer questions. That's GONNA. He's not going to understand what you mean. He just means. Yeah, fine. Okay. I'll just say what the fuck I want that up there. You know which is essentially what is going on, so it's it's really really I think indicative of the fact that. He really is failing to understand. We've seen time and again. He's failing. Understand just the essential science around this pandemic. He's failing to understand his own role as a leader, and even in a like a fucking broader sense like an existential fucking level. This this man is does not even understand how his. Is affecting what the news is about himself, the president of the United States and we'll sue his campaign manager. It's so it's so like. If? It wasn't something that we were living through. It would almost be funny, right? Like wasn't something that we had to like with it so out there that it would almost be humorous to to have a president that is this not just as bad leading, but this bad, it's like. Understanding. How people see him? You know what I mean like. If someone told me you're making things worse by just talking. Just shot up. That helped me a lot like you're a hater, your hater. You're a hater, because that's the other thing, too. They say he famously always does this. If polls are bad or if data's bad doesn't believe it, he just doesn't believe it. That's just how it works, so no one and a lot of insiders saying like the mistake they made was showing him poll numbers that were bad, because it's never gonna it. It's never worked. It will never work. Because let's take one more break. We'll come back with. Some bullshit. Though. We're apart. These days was sharing more so at Geiko. We'd like to say thanks. Thanks for sharing you savage dance moves. Thanks for sharing your diy haircut fails. 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They thought it was gonna be Cova Coitus Fest Twenty Twenty. I better get nine thousand condoms because. Trust me I examined the existential damage. That's being done by this, but one thing I. Know I'm in a house with someone else that I have consensual sex with all. That's happening. Cut to worldwide global depressive states from people who are not horny. Enter just SORTA like because at first I so. I thought and most of us. Thought Logically. We're like yeah. Probably people probably have more sex indoors, but yet condom sales way down actually like in Europe and in the United States and that actually makes more sense when we now that we are living in this reality like no one's moving around freely. To socialize or date like they used to. Actually. It seems like all this confusion and chaos around us, and uncertainty makes us less horny. I. Don't know I think it's maybe ramped up other parts of our like libidos. As maybe. Pure physical needs where you're like you know a meiring the cactus the CACTI. But Rubbing the Mrs Butterworth bottle yeah. Islander my pillow, so no one sees. Midnight Lover. Yeah. I mean I'll. corentin horning. It's funny. I was. Peeking into tinder, because I was just curious like what's tinder like during the quarantine so many tinder talwar like if you're not willing to break quarantine, don't bother swiping. I do think people are still out there like getting it in the quarantine. Oh, they are! Single. Friends who are like. Like working on like you know, you thought they were working on like another negotiation with Cuba or something like top level, high level diplomatic negotiations in terms of like their own contact, tracing what time windows have looked like? Since they had interact with other people in what context that was. If they are then willing to then just be, it's weird. It's like forcing. Some people be like exclusive though, too. Because? They're like look if do this. fucking like you'll be the only person who's house I go to like. I'm not seeing anybody else and they're like it's. It's like weird. You know a sub sub exclusivity. Blue getting there. I've never felt more people who have like secret families people who are like creep it on the side. It's gotta be tough out there for them I've never felt. Families Sacred Family. Someone is family community. Those. It's in Tad. You know how many children fathers debt. Go. You know how many because of this because the? Demand cannot dip out to see the family anymore. They will have to say that he's dead. I don't know what else are you? GonNa do. I don't know what you do or else. You say that's I don't know. Is it easier to say? Look your data scumbag and like he's got this other family. We're like you know I don't know or you have a secret mother. Look, it's all secret family twitter. Let us know what's how are you? How are you handling this? Very curious, all three I don't want to like. Tell Tales out of school. All three of us are quarantining with like a partner. No I am youtube both are I, mean I. I think it's different when you're in a long-term like committed thing. Like. I think a lot of my friends who I see on instagram making Sarah Starter kits I know they wouldn't be doing that. If they had somebody in their house, they can have sex with him. And that was. That was funny because I. was Dr Sweet last week or something? Right. Yeah are you bone apetite, katcher recipe levels of Horny or do you live? Someone you? You have consensual sex with I. Really think that's true. But yeah, the other thing though back to the supply chain though Jack thing that you know the global condom shortage is probably going to be a reality because in Malaysia. They're strict lockdown rules, and they are one of the top rubber producers in major sources of condoms. So it's like I think one of the this one company carrots. They one in five condoms They're saying like they've had to close three of their factories and they're probably doing two hundred million fewer condoms than normal. During this period, so they're saying hey, look if you don't need a maybe save them. That's contraception is very important to other parts of the world. Where like they don't have the same access to medical care, so that's an accident of sort of darker dimension to all of that to say like they're kind of being like okay. Maybe we also need to be really mindful of this. Because of now not just the it's not the lack of Horny is. It's because we can't work work. The rubber factories right right. And you do call them rubbers. You're always calling them rubbers I'm is condom rubbers. I think that's. Ever called it. A I don't think I've caught. What if I ever call it? I think condom I. Don't think I've ever used a fucking, Connie. Jimmy. Again Jimmy L. E.. G. Calls Them. Jimmy's was like a thing for a month in the early nineties, but I feel like they would. Jimmy capital is definitely nineties. Rap gave his jabs, but sex data. Yeah, I was like Hey, girl I need to go to the store to get one of those Lisa left eye Lopez eyepatches. Who does to Lisa left Eye Lopez for like rock on the condom over her. I. Am all about like you know safe sex talking about it. Honestly, my uncle used to be the director of soul trainer like the ad on soul train and I would go as a kid like whenever artists that I wanted to see and I saw Tlc in that era and I remember that was another uncomfortable conversation. My Dad had to have with me because she had those condom patch phase of Lisa left eye Lopez and he's just said it like he just was very dismissive of about. But later on after the nine hundred ninety one AIDS walk He told me what. Just personal! Let you in on my mental history of. I'm glad you figured it out eventually. Took a handful. Because they were free at AIDS Walk and my dad like saw what I you know, 'cause like things like swag bags. Like what's your kid? And I'm like all these kind like what the fuck are you doing with these auto? Their free and you're six. You grab whatever's free? But you know you still got him to this day right still to this day. All right speaking of things to do instead of have sex. It's time to choose our rewatch movie for the weekend. I put together a list of movies that are available on Netflix i. just kind of went through the top. METACRITIC ones because they because they allow you to sort by. What's on Netflix well. It's on prime. Snow Piercer is on net flicks. Feel like that might be a decent pick. The little get a little post-apocalyptic ism in there, and there's also I mean. Is just so hot right now both. So hot right now, yeah. That's kind of at the top of my list. We also have marvel's the avengers just near the top, because again apocalyptic and. Everybody's seen it. I will say this on the another thing on your list. They have folded, and under a written underlined did. Is Her which I've only seen the first twenty minutes of. I love that movie. It's funny, but why did you only the first twenty minutes? What happened because I grew up in a house like screeners all the time, so a lot of movies were like watched on DVD, so I never had like I'd sometimes won't respect the sanctity of the running time of the film and I'll start is going to be like. Oh come aside. You WanNA smoke a blunt, and then I posit and then I. Forget what I'm doing and then I haven't watched her. So yeah, but I want to because. People always have thoughts about it, but I don't know if it's because it's good or whatever, but hey. I think it's good. It's got the disembodied voice of Scarlett Johansson. So if that's your thing, you might give it a shot Oh. Yes. Actress of Color Birth bottle and Sculpture Hanson's I think I think we pick our movie. If it's gotta be I'd hate to pit to Asian people against each other I know she's going to be playing Angela. Davis upcoming movie are. Oh Shit. All right to her we'll. We'll watch her do her. Yeah, I, I. Mean at least I I know I'll bring fresh I. It's something I've not seen, so I may have fresher is fresh eyes. Yeah, fresh is realized fresh is. Okay and then just in terms of I figured there probably quite a few documentaries coming our way about covid, nineteen and. It turns out there twenty in the works right now some in right now like in major like not just like. Oh, we we! We just spoke to twenty people were fucking around with a covert documentary. Make no like Quimby fucking. Hulu people are like pudding documentaries together, but I don't know look I. Understand you this. This moment should be documented I'm not talking I. Don't say that's not a worthy premise, but some of these platforms seemed to be wanting to take them to market like relatively quickly to capitalize on this and I. Don't know I can't imagine fucking anybody wanting to. Harm themselves more by getting more like entrenched in this story rat on. Yeah, I I'm trying to imagine what they would look like. And I'm picturing like the covid nineteen commercials with all the stock footage. 'cause like you can't really go out and do physical productions, I think they are I think maybe these people are embedding themselves with them, so they're like I'm not going anywhere, but you know they're all different like summer talking about like I. Get it like some projects focus on. On the Food Industry or like other nonprofit organizations and I think those are honestly those stories are going to be harrowing. An should one hundred percent be entered into the public record and consciousness for people to understand just what the actual true toll is of this kind of thing, but it's just weird. Because part of the articles are talking about how like Quimby is really trying to get. There's out it's like. Come on now nobody asked to do. We need this. We already yeah. You're already hurting from stealing ideas on other shows, yeah. By the way ABC News does a pretty good roundup of everything happening in Covid nineteen and they are the number one TV show every day basically. All Cable and network, news people are really tune into ABC and also David Muir the anchor. Othello doesn't know what to do with his hands king, so. I, see. That's something you picked up at ABC News. 'cause you famously also worked at ABC. I did work at ABC News when I was in my early twenties, and maybe maybe it was all just. Yeah tall rebuilding building man. Yeah bridget! It's been so wonderful having you as always. Where can people find you and follow you? You can find me on twitter at Brigitte Marie. You can find me on Instagram at Brigitte Marie in DC and you can look out for my new IHEARTMEDIA podcasts coming out on, July seventh called. There are no girls on the Internet. Hit me any of those places that I would love to keep talking. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media? You've been enjoying. Yes! Can I actually have two tweets at that's okay yeah yeah. So the first week that I found that I loved is by Dave, underscore Horowitz. The Postal Service does not exist eternal profit. It exists to remind us that the freckles on our eyes are mirror. Images had been weakest. They're perfectly aligned. I'm. Still Cover. That was I was thinking. You know. And then another tweet it was one of those tweets going around where you're meant to quote. Tweet it with your response, and said you know. Do you have a teacher that impacted you in stuck with you and changed her life and I was really thrilled to see that I got a out a former student of mine from when I taught at Howard University she quote we did that and said yes. She gave me a be in ruin my four point zero and tags me so shattered, former student phoenix. Thank you for calling me out for giving you a be nine years ago. Baid Hey. You respect AIDS. Long beef though I. Do are coming full. Circle Dad's backed long-held beef. You prefer you love a nice dry aged beef. It's trail. Masereka people find you am. What's a tweet? You've been enjoying okay. I like so many tweets one thing. I JUST WANNA. Shout out is if you haven't if you like the fresh prince. There's there's a video that someone just extracted the part where the entire cash is a montage of James Avery Ankle Phil. And it will make you cry okay if you needed to cry even harder. Of You tweets that I like. Man This is why can't I just can't pick just one This is from at Okay Claire She just said Fuck I just sex. Did someone realistically and it's a screen. Grab over text. Threats says it's the person on the other side says one is sex. She's okay. Okay, you start, I. Touch Your Penis with my hand while we kiss after a little bit I let my hand go limp because my wrist is tired, I start worrying about carpal tunnel. I will not come what. A. Another one. This is from as Z Z act twenty two. How old were you when the guitar hero Crowd Buddha you for trying your best interest? My good as good is. Another one is from. This is. At Germain, Lussier it's here's a real thing. I just found in my parents house that I must have got in the junkets swag bag, and even then been so fascinated. I kept it now. She's talking about press junkets that happened for films and things like that and this promotional item. Is going to shock you to Corwin. I show it to you. It is a soul patch from the movie swordfish, and it is a swordfish soul patch. One wrong. Experience can campaign. That cannot be real. It, looks like some some really boneheaded idea that someone would have a lastly okay. When you said Saul Patch, I immediately was like it can't be swordfish, because John Travolta's soul patch in that movie. One of the it's time bed works of facial hair. The helter swordfish patch, and then finally this is from David Sony. WHO SAYS OFFERING BRITTANY? Burns down her. Jim Today's disassociation portal. I don't know if you've seen this clip. Work any spears talks about her. Jim burned down, but again a fantastic way to describe it a disassociation portal. Guys in my gym right now. I haven't been in here for like six months because I burned my gym down unfortunately I had to candles and. One thing led to another. Burned down. To Another and and yeah. It's. It's also like explaining it to apparent nervously like you know. Bring it down. Like I had the candles Dan like one thing led to another. Brennan Sorry I. Hope Nothing actually tragic happened there, but all praise be to comment. thank you. Those are my threaten. Our. some tweets I've been enjoying. Abril at Saddiqul tweeted one of the prettiest colors to exist. Is that of the Bob last from Taco Bell. And that is true. Gareth. tweeted of the Tower of things I have stacked under my laptop to get a decent zoom angle borderline caps for sale. I don't know if you know that book, but. You can find me on twitter Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on twitter at Daly's guys. Di dailies like on instagram. We facebook fan page. And website daily. Dot Com where he post our episodes and are afoot notes where we ought to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on miles. What are we writing out on to date? This is a remix of an artist named Mia Delay Todd who's a great songwriter and her mother is actually in accomplished. 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