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Democracy Now! 2021-02-25 Thursday

"Hi i'm amy goodman this year. Democracy now turns twenty five years old. That's right twenty five years of bringing you the voices and stories. You won't hear. In the corporate media. Democracy now is always refuse to take government or corporate funding because nothing is more important to us than our editorial independence. Nothing is more important to us than telling you the truth but that means we rely on you our audience for support please visit democracy now dot org right now and make your twenty five dollar contribution in honor of our twenty fifth anniversary and help us stay on air for another twenty five years and then another twenty five after that. Thank you so much and remember wearing a mask is an act of love wearing to is even better From new york this is democracy now. Two hundred ten million doses of vaccine have been administered. Globally have of those are in just two countries and eighty person dr in just ten countries more than two hundred countries. I get to item. Stood a single dose as the official global cova death toll nears two and a half million more than half a million here in the us. Much of the world is months if not years away from obtaining vaccines to slow. The pandemic pressure is growing on president biden and the world trade organization from protecting the intellectual property rights of big pharma which is slowing down manufacturing of covert vaccines. We'll speak to a leading. Wto delegates from south africa as well as illinois congresswoman jan schakowsky. We'll also talk to her about the push to increase the federal minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour biden's one point nine trillion dollar covert relief package and more than we look at the growing probes into the deadly january sixth at the capital. We cannot equate white. Nationalism violence with my colleagues on the rice stated that wing extremist violence waiting right. Just move mcgahn justice with cable and racist why nationally the outright ignorant and disingenuous on. We'll speak brendan o'connor author of blood. Red lines how native ism fuels the right. All that and more coming up. Welcome to democracy now. Democracy now dot warns the quarantine report. I'm amy goodman the. Us recorded over thirty two hundred deaths from covid nineteen wednesday even as new cases and hospitalizations remain on the decline president biden vice-president kamala harris or taking part in a white house event today to mark the fifty millionth shot of corona virus vaccine under their administration. The halfway point in biden's promised to deliver a hundred million shots in his first one hundred days. Nearly fourteen percent of the us population's now received at least one. Does the food and drug administration took another step toward granting emergency use authorization to third covid nineteen vaccine wednesday announcing a single dose of johnson. And johnson's vaccine showed eighty six percent efficacy against severe cases of disease in a us. Trial and advisory panel vaccine experts meets friday to discuss the findings with the fda set to authorize the vaccine as early as saturday. This is white house corona virus response coordinator. Jeffrey science johnson and johnson is announced that aims to deliver a total of twenty million doses by the end of march. We're working with the company to accelerate the pace in timeframe by which they deliver the full hundred million doses which required by contract by the end of june and derna says it has produced a new version of its covid nineteen vaccine that offers better protection against a corona virus variant. I identified in south africa. The modified vaccine will be tested as both a booster shot and as a primary vaccine with further plans to test a multi vaillant booster. That could protect people against multiple variants of corona virus. This comes as researchers have identified a new variant in new york city and other parts of the northeastern u. s. That's evolved mutation similar to those seen in south africa and elsewhere on capitol hill democratic. Senator joe manchin of west virginia says he will vote to confirm interior secretary nominee. Deb talan the move by the pro fossil fuels democrat could help pollen overcome overwhelming republican opposition to a confirmation as the first ever native american cabinet member in the united states. Another by nominee near attendant appears unlikely to be confirmed to lead the office of management and budget after senator mansion and several key republican said they would vote against her democratic leaders of three senate. Committees have delayed votes on tendons confirmation without announcing plans to reschedule them. The administration's releasing the declassified intelligence report on the two thousand eighteen murder of washington post columnist. Saudi dissident jamal khashoggi. The reports based largely on findings by the cia reuters is reporting. It will assert crown prince. Mohammed bin salman approved and likely order kashogi. She's murder the saudi consulate in istanbul. The white house said wednesday president biden will be speaking with saudi arabia's king salman rather than the crown prince who was always the contact for the trump administration biden. We'll be speaking reportedly with the king about the report. The guardian reports more than sixty five hundred migrant workers from india pakistan nepal bangladesh sri lanka have died and cutter since it won the right in two thousand ten to host the two thousand twenty two world cup. That's an average of twelve migrant worker deaths per week many of the dead were employed on construction sites for the world cup. Seven news soccer stadiums. A massive public works projects tied to the upcoming tournament. Carter's government claims. Most of the deaths were due to natural causes but workers advocates have tied many of them to heat stress from scorching temperatures at work sites as well as workplace accidents crowded and unsanitary conditions labor camps and deaths by suicide and she has twelve democracy. Now travel to cutters capital doha where we spoke. With the nepalese labor journalist devendra in ghana they are living in very squalid conditions. You couldn't believe seventeen people living in one room. Fifty people sharing one small kitchen. And there's no fire extinguishers service there no running water and fifty people have to keep in the morning to use one toilet be felt they were on the cap tippety on a kind of mood in slavery was there in qatar because their passports were seized by the company and they will not have the right to return home even in emergency situations because they are not easily issued the exit papers this interview with journalist venture in doha about the plight of cutters migrant workers go to democracy now dot org at least forty one migrants drowned in the mediterranean after their ship capsized on route from libya to european shores. That both had at least one hundred. Twenty people on board an estimated seventeen thousand people have died while attempting the treacherous journey since two thousand fourteen described. The united nations is the most dangerous migration route in the world. Amnesty international's revoked prisoner of conscience status for jailed russian opposition leader alexei navalny citing his past hateful xenophobic and violent comments in two thousand seven vanni published video comparing muslims in russia's north caucasus region to cockroaches who should be shot with a pistol another video from the early two thousands shows nevada dressed as a dentist comparing immigrant workers to rotten teeth. That need to be removed. Amnesty says it will continue to fight for nevada needs freedom even after removing him from its list of prisoners of conscience in ecuador officials. Say seventy nine prisoners were killed in gang related riots across three percents this week. The un's called for an investigation ecuador's prisons suffer from overcrowding despite a release of some prisoners during the pandemic back in the united states prisoners at louisiana state penitentiary in angola have gone hunger strike after they were kept in solitary confinement past the end of their disciplinary sentences. The prisoners are being held in unheeded nine foot by six foot with only jumpsuit in a sheep despite record low temperatures this month. They're allowed just one hour outside. Access per day. United nations human rights. Experts have repeatedly said solitary confinement practices in the us amount to torture illinois governor. Jay pritzker signed legislation making illinois. The first state to end cash bail payments for people seeking released from jail as they await their day in court. It's part of a sweeping package of criminal. Justice reform signed into law. Monday illinois state representative justin slaughter called the legislation progress against a criminal justice system rooted in racism in a state where black people make up fourteen percent of the population but more than half of all prisoners with this bill. We take aim at are overly punitive sentencing policies. We provide more judicial discretion for mandatory minimums. We offer alternatives to custody it of course and we're going to be saying over and over again. We end unfair cash. Bail system a system that relies on one's financial ability or inability to post by the consumer financial protection bureau and the state of new york massachusetts. Virginia are suing the bail. Bond company library by nexus for predatory practices against jailed immigrants. Lebron's business model consists of pain. Prisoners bonds then charging exorbitant fees while forcing people to wear electronic tracking bracelets which new york attorney general letitia. James called shackles. Libra would then recoup the bond when trials started lieber ailsa threaten borrowers. Who were not able to repay with deportation or reimprisonment. Even though they had no power to do so federal prosecutors have charged former new york city. Police officer thomas webster for assault with a deadly weapon. During the january six insurrection. Prosecutors say webster went after capitol police officer like a junk yard dog. Teeth clenched and fists clenched beating him with a metal pole. And trying to the irs i- webster is a former. Us marine and a twenty year veteran of the york police department who wants help guard city hall and the mayor's mansion in immigration news president biden's reverse the trump administration's ban on green cards issued outside the united states. The move paves the way for certain family members to reunify in the us with relatives who are citizens or permanent residents biden's executive order also restores temporary visas to some categories of foreign workers including highly skilled workers managers pairs in more immigration. News lawyers. Say they've recently found the parents of one hundred five migrant children who were ripped from their families by the trump administration. The parents have over five hundred separated. Children still have yet to be found and over half of them. Were likely deported. According to the lawyers in missouri honduran immigrant. Athletics garcia left the church in the saint. Louis suburb of maplewood wednesday. After spending more than twelve hundred days living in sanctuary the trump administration had scheduled the married father of five to be deported in two thousand seventeen garcia emerged from sanctuary after freshman missouri congressman cory. Bush introduced a private bill to grant him permanent residency and here in new york longtime immigration activists. Marcos salvatore has won political asylum setting a legal precedent for undocumented activists seeking refugee status in the united states surveyed. Your was born to an indigenous family in oaxaca mexico and brought to the us as a child. he's been involved in several high profile immigration actions in two thousand twelve. He purposely got arrested by federal authorities to infiltrate the privately. Owned broward. transitional center in florida were held organiz imprisoned asylum seekers. Marcus avengers spoke to democracy now in two thousand and nineteen about his appeal for asylum. It'd be for the first time looking. You know and being able to plan my life ten years down the road and for the first time actually be feel feel fully accepted and the only country that i've known for the most of my life so i think that it would be monumental and then i think more significantly would be for the immigrant rights movement that someone with my track history to benefit from this protection and set precedent for other rights activists that could also benefit from the very severe war that exists in my country with organized crime and drug trafficking and could hopefully also be seen as a worthy of asylum again. Marcus savage or just granted political asylum in the united states to see our extended interview with him visit democracy now dot org and those are some of the headlines this is democracy now democracy now dot org the quarantine report. I mean he goodman Special high tenor means shape of a co hosting from a remote location. Heiner main i amy and welcome to our listeners. In view around the country and around the world as the global cova death toll nears two and a half million half a million of those deaths here in the united states. We begin today's show looking at how intellectual property rights are preventing much of the world from obtaining covid vaccines in the united states over forty. Five million people have received at least their first dose of vaccine but across much of the world covert. Vaccines will not be available for months if not years. The united nations recently warned a hundred thirty countries have not received any vaccines at all leaving to what some have described as a vaccine partake system south africa and india are heading a push by over one hundred nations for the world trade organization to waive intellectual property rules that give pharmaceutical companies monopolistic control over vaccines they developed even when those vaccines are developed largely with public funds last fall the trump administration blocked a temporary waiver on the rules known as trips. That's the wto agreement on trade related aspects of intellectual property rights. The biden administration is now facing increasing pressure from public citizen and other groups to reverse the us position head of a key meeting on monday lori. Wallace director of public citizen's global trade. Watch right now. Thanks to rules like in the world trade organization's trade related intellectual property agreements countries. All over the world are required despite having invested hundreds of billions in creating the vaccines they're required to give monopoly protections under the wto rules to the pharmaceutical companies. Who then control. how much. And where the needed medicines are produced in order to be able to gear up. We need a broad waiver that covers that whole web of intellectual property rights. That big pharma right now. Has that's constricting the ability of countries around the world to make these meds we're joined right now by two guests here in the united states democratic congresswoman jan schakowsky represents the ninth district of illinois. She senior chief. Deputy whip and chair of the consumer protection and commerce subcommittee and mr came gama is with us from geneva. He's the counselor at the south african mission to the world trade organization. He helped draft a proposal. Cosponsored by indian south africa calling for the wto to suspend intellectual property rights related to covid nineteen. Mr came to gama. Let's begin with you if you can explain to a global audience. Exactly what is happening if nothing else. This pandemic has told us as taught us if one person is six somewhere. We are all threatened. What exactly especially for an audience. The united states hardly even knows that the world trade organization exists. Are you saying we'll make an enormous dec- like an enormous difference in protecting the population of the planet. Good morning good morning to all of us. I think the point you make is very very important. We have seen the interconnectedness of the world. And certainly covid. Nineteen has brought this to a four. This proposal essentially proposes that we wave forms of intellectual property rights to ensure an increase of production. And we've seen large-scale shortages of vaccines not because of any other reason but because of the inappropriate use of intellectual property rights and so from that perspective the proposal really seeks to ensure that everyone has access as you clearly also point out that on the global scale we see the the variance of the virus. Now impacting the efficiency of vaccines. That already have been produced and so from this perspective it makes a lot of sense to have everyone vaccinated at the earliest point in time. And so the wave of makes the the argument that we shouldn't able more produces to produce to scale and to ensure that all of us are safe in the shortest possible time if we do not have access to a vaccine the inequality that we see in the world today. we'll continue. I emphasized a few days ago. That only ten countries are responsible for seventy five percent of all vaccines that have been admitted to administer today and this means that a good one hundred and thirty countries have not yet received vaccines at at this point in time and may not receive vaccines for years to come if you could also comment on the fact that astrazeneca for example which was made in conjunction with the university of oxford astrazeneca has licensed the serum institute of india to both produce and manufacture this vaccine. How did astra zeneca do that. Is it entirely up to individual companies to make the decision about whether they license or not and to whom they license was a waiver required for astrazeneca to do this. Absolutely no i think. The licensing of astra zeneca to the serum institute is what is called a voluntary license so the waiver was not required to do this. But the problem with these types of arrangements firstly is that they very secretive secondly they are contractual terms that limit the producer both in terms of volume and also geographic distribution of what is being produced so the serum institute is one example. Johnson and johnson has also licensed dave vaccine to accompany in south africa once again. We know that from this particular contract only nine percent of what that company produces will be distributed in south africa. The race will go somewhere else. So whereas voluntary licenses would would be a good idea it is limited in scope and what is required to address over nine thousand nine cannot be addressed purely through voluntary licenses so the bottom line is that we need a massive scale up and the rights that i'm bidded in these voluntary licenses and april companies to say how much is produced for whom they are produce an at at what price and ultimately if we have a limitation in the in the number of vaccines that op produced. We know that this has an impact on the price. It has an impact on on scarcity. And what we do see in the market now is that even poor countries are required to pay much more for these vaccines even though these vaccines have been developed with a large amount of public funding. And this this waiver apply not only to vaccines that were developed a in europe and here in other words to pfizer and moderna or also vaccines that have been developed elsewhere The two vaccines From china as well as a sputnik v from russia. I'm this is This is a measure that will apply everywhere so all. wto members would be able to benefit And invoke the flexibility. That is granted. So i any vaccine. That could be accessible. Could be subject to this particular waiver and this is in line with the principle of non-discrimination that we are not only targeting pro produces in particular countries. I think the problem that has arisen. These produces are not willing to share the technology available. And as you indicate it's not only applicable to vaccines it's applicable to a broad range of intellectual property rights including therapeutics for example diagnostics in order to track and trace the evolution of the virus. We need access to further types of technology. So it's not only vaccines that would be applicable here but it would also apply to a wider range of intellectual property rights and then of course products that could be used to address covid. Nineteen member jan schakowsky. Let's talk concretely. About what this all means. I mean you have private companies. Like madonna got what something like a billion dollars from the united states overall. Something like two and a half billion dollars for the development of the company's vaccines from governments around the world so and then you have pfizer. Who may not have gotten at the front end but at the back end a guarantee of massive buys by government sales of the vaccine. What exactly happens. What would if there was a waiver to this. Wto provisions would other companies and other countries be able to do so the waiver which by the way is limited in time is a narrow leave focused on making sure that we address this car and virus and it would not change the rule of the wto permanently so this is an important response and what it would do would we allow countries to be able to produce their own vaccines and therapeutics and make sure that they can take care of themselves. We know that these intellectual property rights really do put profit all over the world. And we know i've talked to in in a hearing with these major companies and i think emphasizing the fact that americans are huge investors in this we have millions and millions of dollars into developing these vaccines and doing the research and development for these companies but now they are saying and they said while the agree that the covid virus anywhere threatens people everywhere that they don't believe that they should allow this waiver so that other countries and other companies can develop their own their own concurrently would mean sharing the recipe essentially essentially and it would mean you know what are the some companies could make the Could make the needles. Some companies could make whatever needs to be done and this would be shared for a time and again as you said. Billions have gone into these companies by governments. This wasn't just developed by these companies. Outlaying money you know. I think it's kind of analogous to allowing various countries to produce generic twelve based on the research that that has been done is so short sighted in the united states of america is not on the bright side of this right now. What we would like is between now and monday for the president of the united states. And you know. I'm certainly supported supporting of joe biden and kamala harris would say that we support the waiver at the at the wto. It would make all the difference in the world. I know that nancy pelosi our speaker of the house has spoken out on this issue as well and says that this is important for us to do for our cells is our own self interest as well. We don't want to you know we're spending. We're spending additional billions of dollars to address tourism to help the airlines to be able to help our economy. All of that will be for naught if we cannot protect ourselves against this virus because we will not help the international community and there are hundreds of organizations health organizations human rights organizations ngos around the world that are pleading really for this waiver to be approved and was looking. Could you respond to those who oppose this waiver. Not on the basis of profit but simply on the basis of the fact that they say these vaccines in particular fis and madonna are very difficult to transport and store given the fact that they need to be kept in subfreezing temperatures that the problem is not one of sharing of the technology because in fact even if they were to share this so-called recipe no other country or most countries would not be able to manufacture these vaccines because they don't have the technology and the means to make a these particular vaccines and then also what exactly happened with the vaccine during the not the vaccine but the antiretroviral drugs during the aids epidemic. And how those drugs were able to be manufactured around the world in particular in india. Just thanks. I think this is a very important Point to stress that in terms of the manufacturing capacity we know that there are many developing countries that do have the capacity to produce back scenes. And if you actually look at the supply chains. Much of medicine consumed in the waist is actually produced in In in developing countries and so from that perspective firstly if the recipe is shared as you say with developing countries. They are manufacturers. That can do this. The world health organization for instance as a so-called prequalification list of vaccine produces and a big a big part of all these manufacturers actually come from the developing world. Even the rene vaccines that have been developed by moderna for example can easily be produced in the developing world because Emma technology is not new. It's been applied in other areas but the coverage application covid nineteen ease novel but the scientific base and the competence actually does exist in the developing world and so from that perspective. I think that that kind of narrative has been debunked by various organizations. I also wanted to indicate that in terms of the second part of your question on hiv aids. This is a very sad chapter in history. And i think some of the remnants are from that episode really still does chime in current history. At that time countries like india ah could produce on the basis of an amendment that was made to the trips agreement unlike what we are proposing or at least very much like what. We are proposing now. A decision was taken to allow countries that do not have manufacturing capacity to import from countries that do have and so in theory. This mechanism is available for countries currently however given the scale of a pandemic we certainly also see that it affects everyone and so these flexibilities are not easily accessible and so from that point of view when we look at the history of hiv and aids. And we look at some of the other pandemics. It is very clear that the only way that we we again to address this is to really get a global scale up of vaccines whatever is needed to ensure that we vaccinate everyone in the shortest possible time. And you've indicated what the risks. The risks are not only on the health side. it's also on the side of poverty. Poverty alleviation a lot of people have not been exposed to insecurity and the longer we have lockdowns continuing the longer people will be exposed to hunger and increasing levels of poverty and nightly quickly. So i must have him just very quickly before we conclude just earlier this month. The wto appointed the first african and the first woman to head the organization your sense and she's also of course urged member states to make vaccines more accessible. Do you think her being in this position might make a difference Yes i think. Firstly being a woman and out being the first african to lead this organization she is in touch with the The sensitivities on i think the requirements of developing countries. So they could be no bitter person to lead the organization at this point in time. She's already indicated that she's willing to work constructively with members to ensure that we have an outcome. And i'll i think we welcome this kind of positive energy. That's been injected into the organization and hopefully it could also help us to reach an outcome in the shortest possible time to ensure that we save lives and that we hold governments to account to ensure that public interest and public health issues. I taken account and also promoted above narrow interests that we see for instance with pharmaceutical companies and finely. Congress member jan schakowsky. What exactly has to happen by monday. And you have any indication from president biden. Vice-president harris like you do from nancy pelosi who you say has come out in support of the waiver. What happens monday. Well there's a letter that we're giving sign ons. From members of congress to the president of the united states a lot of contact now with the administration really emphasizing the importance of the leadership of the united states of america. We saw quote from one of the lawyers for the pharmaceutical companies. Have said they don't do this out of the goodness of their heart. They want to do it because they get the benefits. And we're talking about profits here. It's really it's wrong. And so many different ways including putting americans endanger so. We're just going to keep the pressure on because time is a wasting here. If we don't start getting more scenes and pharmaceuticals to these a developing and poor countries. We will continue to be at risk no matter how much money we spent to crush the virus. Thank you both for being with us and ask you congressman schakowsky to stay with us because we want to talk in our next segment about the fight for fifteen. That's fifteen dollars an hour and we want to thank. Mr came to gama counselor at the south african permanent mission to the wto. Joining us from geneva switzerland. And we'll continue to follow this story. This is democracy now. Back with congress members schakowsky. In a minute we find out lead. Slow post every way talk whereas we struggle every day by kuti. This is democracy now democracy now dot org the quarantine report. I'm amy goodman with remains shea. The house votes friday. I'm president biden's one point nine. Trillion dollar corona virus relief package that includes a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage increase. The measure remains risk in the senate where it faces opposition from democrats. Joe manchin of west. Virginia and arizona's christon cinema mansion instead proposed an increase to just eleven dollars an hour. If the minimum wage doesn't survive in the spill biden said he's a legislative session. But that would need sixty votes in the senate to overcome. A filibuster comes as vice news. Reports leaked internal documents show. How mcdonalds spies workers who are part of the fight for fifteen dollar campaign quote. Mcdonald's intelligence analysts have used a social media monitoring tool to collect and scrape data openly available online to help monitor social media accounts. The services told motherboard that the company's intelligence analyst have attempted to use the tool to reconstruct the friends lists networks of workers involved in the labor movement using fake facebook personas in order to figure out their strategy counter it and find out where the key players are and who they know unquote countless from richard. Schakowsky you've pushed to raise the minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour. Your chair of the consumer protection and commerce subcommittee. Can you talk about what's happening right now. What it means that the parliament. The senate parliamentarian makes a decision. Whether or not this will be included but whether they move ahead with this anyway or make it a separate bill. Why fifteen dollars an hour or so important women pushing fifteen dollars an hour for a very long time as you know is it's phased in and there are states like washington state that for a long time have had fifteen dollars an hour. The current minimum wage. Federally seven dollars and twenty five cents. Now you can't live on that. Japan raise a family on that. You have to have other jobs. That's about thirty thousand dollars a year. You just can't really make and so we need to do this now. In the united states you know. Reverend barber made a brilliant statement he said you know. The minimum wage during slavery was zero. And all these years since then we've gotten to seven dollars and twenty five cents. It is time now really to move toward a living wage. I would say that the certainly pushing for five and finally going to get to five. I believe it should be in this package. In fact the a senator byrd when he was in the congress made a whole speech about the importance of the minimum wage being raised. And we talk about the byrd rule. With which would disqualify things like minimum wage. So is said and so. We're saying that it is perfectly consistent with this package to include the the minimum rose while of mine who think that is too high that we have to have perhaps a regional wage Are are so disrespectful. And they have the nerve to use the excuse that it's really going to be bad for people with disabilities. It's going to be bad for low income people because jobs will be lost. There is no evidence of that whatsoever. Raising the minimum wage does nothing but good for millions of americans and congress shikaki. Could you explain who exactly is opposing the inclusion of the fifteen dollar minimum wage and also whether the so-called reconciliation process can be used with this proposal. What is that process. Reconciliation process does allow us democrats right now to pass a big bill. One point nine trillion dollars is what's been on the table with fifty fifty one votes and that's it we would have to break the tie with a kamala harris the vice president coming in and doing that but we can do that. About eighty percent of americans want us to do this So first of all it's republicans who are against this legislation altogether. There's so many things that they don't want to see in this bill. But particularly i would say raising the minimum wage and Beyond that there are a couple of democrats still in the senate. That are saying that they don't want that. And there's a lot of pressure being Directed at them phone calls from constituents in their in their district mobilization of grass people to try and change their mind. And we're not better to give up yet. I should say to give up at all. We're going to press and press for including this. As one of the most important aspects raising wage having people be able to be able to take care of themselves and not rely on many of the the benefits which i approve of that. We want to do to help them. The people want to help themselves and they wanna have jobs that actually provide for themselves and their families so the a reconciliation process would allow us to do that with just fifty one votes instead of the sixty that would normally be required unfortunately because the filibuster in the united states signed up finally on a different issue. Congress member jan schakowsky this week. One day after another have been hearings on january six insurrection in our next segment. We're about to really delve into. Who was part of that. But i wanted to ask you about the high level of involvement of military of police and retired police today. We just reported in headlines. Better new york police officer who engage in one of the most vicious attacks on a capital police officer trying to rip off his helmet gouging his eye and then slamming with him with poll. He has just been arrested. But the percentage of the protesters being from the military or police organizations your thoughts. Well we're going to Pass the legislation on justice in policing act because this is not a new story about Violence too often that occurs among law enforcement will also finding out the and really seeing every single day in fact the disparities between how people of color are are tweeted as opposed to. I think this is hard of the story of january six and we're going to have a full investigation and accountability. And we're gonna have to make changes in the in the law. That enforce accountability. There is no question about it and when we're going to have to look at the military lease who very often immunity in an unjust way For the kinds of atrocities and that are don so again. Nancy is creating a task force. That is going to a commission. That's going to be looking into all these details. And then we will take appropriate actions mixture and we just. We just have twenty seconds but recently wrote to facebook. Ceo mark zuckerberg demanding more information on the company's anti-extremism measures citing multiple reports. Some of facebook's own staff were concerned about the quote rapid spread of extremism and disinformation on facebook. What are the responsibility of the social media giant's to tackle extremism and do you favor anti-monopoly legislation against them breaking them up. I actually do but mainly what we're talking about now is again palatability for hosting the and on and other extremist organizations and you know every click is really money for money for them and so we've heard lots of apologies. It's too little too late and now we need to have accountability of these platforms take responsibility for what on those platforms. We want to thank you for being with us. Democratic congresswoman jan schakowsky From illinois chief deputy whip and chair of the consumer protection and commerce subcommittee. Next up we look at the growing probes into the deadly january. Sixth insurrection at the capitol. Stay with us Karen is as close as a rabbit gets to a diamond captain beef heart and his magic band. This is democracy now. I'm amy goodman with near means shake this is the quarantine report is we end today. Show looking at the deadly january. Six insurrection at the capitol federal prosecutors charge former new york city police officer thomas webster with assault with a deadly weapon during the insurrection. Prosecutors say he went after a capital police officer quote like a junkyard dog teeth clenched and this clench beating him with a metal pole and trying to gouge out his eye. Prosecutors say video shows webster. Beat the officer with his hands and rick their gear off causing them to choke because it quote cut off the officers air. The video of this is horrifying former. Us marine and a twenty year veteran of the nypd help city hall and the mayor's mansion. This comes as the senate held. Its first public. Hearing tuesday on the insurrection. Where security officials blamed intelligence failures the house. Judiciary committee followed up wednesday with a hearing on the rise of domestic terror. Some republican members tried to compare the january six attack to protest against police killings of black americans and insisted and tika is a threat this was democratic congresswoman. Corey bushes response. We cannot equate white nationalist violence with my collies on the rice stated his left wing extremist violence keith. Waiting a righteous movement for justice with hateful and racist white. Nationalism is outright ordinary and disingenuous. On your part but fuller white supremacist. In which you benefits we would not be in the streets demanding to be heard. We're demanding to be heard to save lives and let me say this before. Now we wouldn't be here and there are not people on both sides. There are simply no comparison. Meanwhile during this week's confirmation hearings for president biden's nominee to become the next attorney. General merrick garland told the senate judiciary committee. He would prioritize prosecuting. The white supremacists who stormed the capital january six. He compared the task to his prosecution of the oklahoma city. Federal building bombing in nineteen ninety s when democratic senator dick durbin of illinois ask garland if the deadly insurrection was a quote one off. This was judge garland. I don't think that this is necessarily a one off. Fbi director ray has indicated that the threat of domestic terrorism and particularly of white supremacists extremists. His number one concern in this area. This is coupled with an enormous rise in hate crimes over the past few years. There is a line from oklahoma city. And there's another line from oklahoma city all the way back to the experiences that i mentioned in my opening with respect to the battles of the original justice department against ku klux klan. We must do everything in the power of the justice department to prevent this kind of interference with the policies american democratic institutions. And i plan if you confirmed me for attorney general to do everything in my power to ensure that we are protected. This comes as former president. Trump is set to reemerge sunday the headline speaker at cpac. That's the conservative political action conference where he'll try to keep alive has false claims of election fraud and reportedly. We'll talk about Running for president again in twenty twenty four well for more. We're joined by reporter and author brendan o'connor whose recent book is titled blood red lines. How native is fuels. The right has latest article for the guardian headlined. The capital riot wasn't a fringe uprising. It was enabled by very deep pockets. Welcome to democracy now. Brendon talk about those pockets. Talk about this insurrection. And who enabled. Thank you for having me yeah. The events of january six were not just months but years decades. In the making. And i think that merrick garland is correct to say that there's an ideological linnea reaching all the way back do the kkk and the justice department struggles against it and and really even further to reconstruction and the civil war This is a current and a tendency in american politics. That has been with us. Since the beginning is being given expression and being encouraged by the conditions of crisis that we are all living in now talk specifically about the funding of what took place on january sex though on january six the rally that then president trump spoke at that preceded. The siege of the capital was funded in the infrastructure for was provided by a slew of right wing organizations that have gotten funding from various right wing from from the railing. Donor class That have been with us in there. Were involved in funding. The party movement that have been involved in blocking various democratic effort said passing progressive legislation over the years and then saw that this was an opportunity to try to ingratiate themselves and support the militant white nationalist factions within the republican party. That trump finds to be his base so brenton as we heard earlier biden's nominee for attorney. General merrick garland has said that this will be his top priority. Prosecuting the white supremacists who stormed the capital on january six. Now given the fact that you've talked about the funding behind this. How do you think he can go about doing this. If he is confirmed That's a good question. I think that the justice department's investigations and already. We've seen that. The charges that had been brought have shown us a lot about the social dynamics of what happened on january six than in the weeks and months leading up to it the way these different groups are organized and the way that more organized groups interact with the trump rank and file. I am not optimistic. that mirror. carlin's prospective investigation will be able to get to the root causes of how this happened and why happened not through any individual fault of garland's or any individual Prosecutor within the justice department. Just but simply because that's not the role of the justice department. They don't have the ideological framework where the political toolbox to be able to get to the root of these problems and brennan. Could you elaborate on some of the groups that have been identified as having participated in this attack Including the proud boys oath keepers and so on for sure so the oath keepers are an older group that were very active during the obama. Administration that kind of served as a bridge between the far right patriot movement Bat emerged during the late eighties and nineties. Oath keepers draw their base of support from law enforcement and military veterans with a lot of between these two groups. They were active on january. Six alongside the proud boys who are a newer group That founded in two thousand sixteen but were sort of laughed off by many of the more hardcore white nationalist for several years until now in twenty nineteen twenty twenty stepping into a vacuum on the far right that was left by the collapse of the so-called and the problems are basically a streetfighting organization. Their base of of support is primarily in the pacific northwest. but they're all over the country and they similarly to the oath keepers. Serve as a bridge between the more ideologically hard core Far right and the trump base may do this by deploying the tropes mythology of non of evangelical christianity of of ultra-nationalist atrium. All in service of open street violence and during the hearing on tuesday republican senator ron johnson of wisconsin used as questioning to read from a federal historical promoting the conspiracy theory that the rioters infiltrated a crowd of well-meaning festive trump's supporters. A very few didn't share the jovial friendly earnest demeanor of the great majority. Some obviously didn't fit in. And he describes four different types of people playing close militants agents provocateurs fake trump protesters and then disciplined uniform column of taxes. I think these the people that probably plan this. So ron johnson keeps fighting for that. This was antifa. Then you have marjorie taylor green the on congresswoman who said the same thing And yet it now has come out with video. That's emerged one of her closest friends. One of the Trump supporting protesters marching along there and talking about the organizing of this event so she knows full. Well exactly who is doing this though. She denied that that is who is doing it. brendan o'connor if you can talk about where you feel this all needs to lead and are these groups getting stronger. Are these groups getting stronger. that's question and it's hard exactly to say. I think a lot of it will depend on how the fractures within the republican party. Writ large result resolve themselves if congress Marjorie green and senators light. Ron johnson are able to take over the party then. This becomes a habitable refuge for the organized. Far right if on the other hand the more mainstream donor glass and sections of the ruling class that affiliate with a rubbing party are able to reassert control. Ben the far right will take on a more anti-state actor and the acceleration est in fascist factions will gain influence. I think and that can that will lead in a different direction Neither of which are very Neither which. I'm very optimistic about twenty seconds but the subtitle of blood red lines your buck. How native ism fuels the right. You've stephen miller now briefing. Conservative congress members trump coming out at cpac sunday. Your thoughts yes I think that the the nativist influence is going to continue to rise especially as the climate crisis deepens in more and more people around the world are displaced and come to countries like the united states seeking safety and refuge and comfort This is going to provoke a reaction that those of us on the left in the democratic party need to be conscientious insensitive to as we think about how to build a world that can leave it. There brendan o'connor author of blood. Red lines i'm amy goodman with nurmi shaef stays.

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DNB: The Corporate Media Is Aggressively Going After Trump Supporters & Anyone Who Doesn't Capitulate

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DNB: The Corporate Media Is Aggressively Going After Trump Supporters & Anyone Who Doesn't Capitulate

"The dry thirty minutes five mercury minutes patrons jam packed with news of the day from a first liberty and justice. This is monica bradley. Our top story is a doozy the media the government and business are coordinating to suppress all americans business. People politicians just ordinary citizens who will not capitulate to all demands who will not forfeit their right to process their first amendment rights. All of that. I i've seen it. You've been following many examples of it. I just happened to notice that businesses were using what events one actually said in words the exact process using soft power to get really rich people to call the elected officials and tell them what they want to give them their demands and this case i saw two articles one about politicians who were threatening to or considering or in line to object to the elector slates or the electrodes being slated by their states. They were getting pressure by businesses. By contributors you cannot do this similarly workers they say are being fired for participating in the protest. That's another way that business is being used to suppress rights without having to go through the formal process of making unconstitutional laws and they are going to use all sorts of big tex bring this together from facial recognition other forms of surveillance. There's a lot unpack here. I hate the expression unpacked. But there's no other word for it so basically you have a lot of samples away. There were a lot of examples of this just yesterday. And we've seen even more of the course of the past few months and it all ties in with the great reset the new social reality that they're trying to create and the seventy million what they call trump supporters or people with trump's sentiment the anti-globalists sentiment that the council on foreign relations has been talking about getting rid of as an obstacle to the pursuit of their global server civil society that they're trying to create and the examples that we saw just yesterday were ben and jerry's ice cream one of the things that adults and children alike have a fun time. Just go into the ice cream shop. What a great environment. But now at been in jerry's you can get a a mint ice cream with a hefty scoop of indoctrination on top because they have a pin tweet yesterday pin this sweet and they said yesterday was not a protest referring to the capital protests. Yesterday was not a protest riot to uphold white supremacy. This has been and jerry's and is signing josh hitting this tweet and they have eight following tweets with the next one says it was allowed to happen. The mostly white insurrectionist roamed freely and without consequence through the heart of our democracy. The explanation is that this was allowed to happen because they were white. Not black brown or indigenous people. This is an ice cream shop. Why are they doing this. I'll tell you their. Ceo works with the world economic forum. He's all in on stakeholder capitalism as opposed to profit capitalism and that is what these standards the great reset is trying to establish. es g being environmental social governance and what this equates to is a social credit score for businesses corporations around the world where they they are valued and they get grant money from international organizations based on their the way they show social justice initiatives climate initiatives that are unrelated to their profit line because been jerry's is calling half their customer base racist with his tweet right here. Yes and that obviously points to the fact that profit motive which is their fiduciary duty to shareholders. How ordinary people with a pension or. The 401k can participate in capitalism. Even though they're just labor's it's actually a great system and their duty is to allow you to participate in the business and this is not in the service of the business. This isn't service of some political thing which probably benefits the people in those positions. Ceo's or sometimes just politicians. They're not founders. I don't know if the ben and jerry's guys are even part of that anymore. I doubt it but to those. Both of those tweets triggered me on other issues that we have to talk about. Could would you mind rereading them. And let me just give you feedback in one sentence on each of those. Yeah the first one was suspended. The top of their page yesterday was not a protest. It was a riot to uphold white supremecy. That's absolutely ridiculous. We can talk about this later in the show and also people are blocked rochman. They should hear our firsthand interview of somebody. Who was there it is. It was one hundred percent in support of the people who were objecting on behalf of their states to the electoral slates being prematurely certified. And that has nothing to us however the the second tweet asian and black people that were there also the first video i looked at. She sent me all her pictures and videos. She sent a picture of herself on the stairs because she said the constant just let people through the gates of she stays and yeah rockin and we'll call her a protester x. was gonna call but she says she doesn't care so behind her in the picture. I don't wanna show her face. So i didn't post that picture grass not supposed picture but it was a picture you could see the capital doors open behind her. She there was a so so the second tweet that we interviewed her yesterday. Didn't wait did we say that. We didn't say that we interviewed a person who we know and trust who was a. I didn't know she was at the thing. When i found out i immediately got around the horn. She was there she told us about it in detail and rock vinci sent us pictures. We're going to put all that stuff up. We'll tell you a little bit about it. But if you wanna hear. The first hand thing in iraq vin lesser subscribers. Show that but the second tweet that you wreckage read that again about why it was allowed to happen. It was allowed to happen the mostly white insurrectionist. And that's the that's the buzzword of the day insurrectionist. They roamed freely end without consequence through the heart of our democracy. The only explanation is that this was allowed to happen because they were white. Not black brown or indigenous people. That is not the only explanation that is that is literally a whitewash. It is the opposite of the explanation because they what anthem. And what is evident to me is. They were there to support the electoral process as it was unfolding. What those rioters did was aborted the process to there so the narrative all over the place is that the mob went in there to prevent the certification of elections. But that's not what was happening. What was happening is in. Congress prevented was blocking the certification of the doors. And that is why it was allowed to happen. They actually add us why they helped the left right. And that is why it was last time and that is why it was provocateurs. That is why this thing was a setup. That is what an was telling us about who she was there with and what was happening was clearly different from that. Push into the capital. Or we've got lots of talk about that. But i just wanted to point out that what this is sure. There's word for it and you probably know it but they are taking the is like newspeak or opposite day they are taking the story and turning it on its head for their own purposes the the media is completely gone and one of the pictures and showed us was a picture of the first amendment carved into the side of the capitol. I guess it was and that as i. If we get a chance to rattle off like the elements of that the free press had to go first before all these other rights could be lost and they have been lost one by one and we can demonstrate from yesterday alone. What's up guys such uncertainty in the world right now. The best way to have true security is by growing your own food and neighbors feed and seed in smyrna georgia. They got you covered the garden supplies vegetable plants chicken feed bird feed farm supply everything. You're gardner farm. Needs even host a farmer's market on saturdays from ten. Am to four pm and right now for propaganda. A portless oli. They're offering ten percent of all online purchases at neighbors speed and seed dot com just type in coupon code prop. Pr cap spot. Check out and if you have any questions give them a call at six. Seven eight six five three eight eight three eight. Yeah you're right about the opposite day theme videos. Let's say been taken off from the web usa lead what's called walk ins where a bunch of protesters oftentimes in wheelchairs or other ailments. Go in and they stormed the offices of people in congress and in the senate and there's video of her leading protesters doing that at the door of her colleagues. Oh yeah the indivisible sends out training guys how to do a sit in and it's not just you go sit quietly. It's you go screaming in their face. Until they as jan schakowsky the senator from chicago would say until we can get a picture of a police officer yanking someone in a wheelchair out of their wheelchair. This is something that they do not not on a rare occasion the left activist or the activist. They do this all the time and yet they're acting like what happened. The other day is any different than what they always do. Don't you remember the guy who was like had put like menstrual blood on his. I don't know what it was. It was seen a lotta pussy hats days but it was in the chamber. And i was like. There's no way you get in there unless somebody gives you an and they traced it to like diane feinstein's tickets like everybody gets a couple of tickets or somebody's tickets. Yeah yeah yeah. I mean this. This is not the keep talking like this is some historic horribly violent event. It's look what happened anybody who got hurt. That's that's not good. That's bad. I don't never want violence. You never want people to get hurt but when you look at what was going on outside and you look at the videos and when you think about what we've seen over the summer earn with the end with these activists and in your face approach it doesn't compare it doesn't compare there was it was not people. Were not violent. They were like partying outside of the place. And then some provocateurs gut. The doors unlocked kicked door open. And then the mob took over but even when they were inside this was not. There's people pushing each other. And that like i said i'm not condoning any violence. I it's not good but to say that this is the worst date american history like pearl harbor. Nine eleven is a blatant lie. And it's just it's an insult and not to mention that it is so clearly a setup to the point where when i posted that video of the woman getting shot i got. Actually we should talk about why that down. I took it down. I had like one hundred people. Were all pulling it. Apart and by the end it was very clear that there was something weird about it particularly. Because i guy in a suit who i later found out was a sergeant in arms shot her and as you see her go down you can see the black shoes of other cops but mind behind her so bizarre with big guns like. There's no way that went normal. So now i'm thinking and when ann was there. She said that they were pushing that narrative about somebody getting shot before even the timeline would allow for it before. There were people even on the steps almost but she but but as i look at that and i think they put stuff up there for us to go bananas on. I actually took it down. Tell tell them why. I take it down. Well lynnwood got kicked off twitter which we mentioned yesterday. Lynnwood is the a q and on supporter. Who is a lawyer who had been promoting a lot of stop. The steal stuff seeming to be a big trump supporter. But he's been saying a lot of outrageous things on the internet but the thing that got him kicked off allegedly the last week that he made on twitter was he tweeted that the woman who they say was shot and killed at the capitol her name my mind it yes her and he said that she is not dead and the whole thing was staged and that it was a false flag and this is kind of what we were alluding to. Yeah so when. I but here's the thing you you said that he was going to get taken off in the. Meanwhile just like alex jones. You're like he's a set up just like how we got taken off of wordpress then in the meanwhile just separate from the fact that this video was left on twitter and i had whatever ninety five likes or comments our and we were cracking the code on it. I thought this hasn't happened in a really long time. Have we had this kind of freedom. And i'm usually very cautious about putting stuff like that up. But i've been getting away with like flirting with the edges lately so just yesterday. I said to somebody who is engaging i said look i probably have to take this tweet down. I'm looking for trouble. And i don't want that so i read that to. I didn't take it down. I still and then this morning. You're like that's that was the thing that got taken down. So that's when. I went and took it down because i mean you got to see the writing on the wall. The first one was the no positive picture. And it was just bizarre. And that's what i'm saying like this video was weird enough a guy in a suit on the inside of the barrett barriers. A bunch of cops. You could see a guy run up. There's no blood on her at all and then some random dude runs up with the backpack and all of a sudden. There's blood on her on her face. I didn't see it yesterday. But i went back and saw it now especially after and told us that that is that she had somebody show her video and she said it's just a different video from the one we saw and that the blood looks weird to her and whatever so i took it down but the reason i think the reason it was so complex to really engage people on it and keep people focused and keep people talking about it. Just like that noah. Pozner picture was really bizarre. They put picture of noah pozner up from sandy hook and they said that he was the victim of the pakistan massacre school massacre. This was the beyond the bbc like it was just crazy and i think that's what part one of many elements to this i up is that one and another element to this is. If you take what you're told at face value about the story. Then what what. The information you're receiving is basically that a trump supporter was assassinated. Was taken out. You see what. I may because of both sides right so so if you're this then that that theme is it falls right in line with this idea that if you supported trump or if you don't capitulate then here's an example of what can happen to you which can go either way it can. Intimidate people can embolden them and they want people emboldened so some people are saying you know. This woman got shot. That's how violent it was other people are saying it was a setup and and that's why they're you've got the people who say well they were allowed to storm the capital because they were white and then you have the other the other side saying they never got shot for store for storming the capital before she only got schilling. Got a trump supporter. So it's that art of ambiguity. It's that strategy of tension and it's and it's going strong ever since getting to know the people in products at true science i have made. Cbd products a highly rewarding part of my life for muscle. Rub to body lotion to see oil. And my absolute favorite gluten-free brownies. I have incorporated. Cbc products in my own approach to personal well-being to find out more about cbd products in general and true science products in particular including their latest offering of gumy's check out their website and request a free personal consultation at true science dot com slash. Prop report. Can i tell you the two other examples real quick of that support the same lease do josh hawley. Who was the original senator. Who wanted to the electors and he continued to act during the process. His book which is called the tyranny of big tech has been dropped by the publisher simon and schuster following the capitol hill riot. Here's a statement that simon and shuster made. After witnessing the the disturbing deadly insurrection. The talking points memo went out the deadly insurrection. That took place on wednesday in washington. Dc simon and schuster has decided to cancel. Publication of senator. Josh hollies forthcoming book. The tyranny of big tech. We did not come. To this decision. Lightly it will always be our mission to amplify a variety of voices and viewpoints. But at the same time we take seriously our larger public responsibility as citizens and we cannot support senators. Senator hallways after his role in what became a dangerous threat to our democracy and freedom. This is another signal that if you don't capitulate you gotta have a hard time participating in society. There is so much there and one of the things that i was kind of i had invented that. Coin that phrase tent agents awhile. Back where i think lynnwood is squarely in the category of taint agent. Absolutely knowingly you can. I'll accepts counter arguments. On whether alex jones knows the roles. He's playing but lynnwood knows the role. He's playing he is attains. Agent sydney powell may be too. But i don't know if she knows it just got sued by dominion that's was one of my stories was that she got sued for defamation and that that could never work for garland because he has documented sworn affidavits but she threw and stuff like china and iran. Stuff that that that would be a very naive thing for a lawyer to put in there. So that's why i. I'll put her in the category of tentative tain agents but this stuff this mob thing it is it is propaganda of the deed meets tate agency. And it's like taint agents of the deed where you do something that in itself tainted everything around us like a nuclear bomb of that so it derailed the process of the bob screws up josh hawley sleep. It makes people. It was getting people fired from work and you know what is a funny thing is that they said people were being recognized. And i want to hear about the clearview story that you had people who were being recognised at the thing. We're losing their jobs. Supposedly right. That was one of the stories. I think i brought. And but what an said is. She was worried that or that. A lot of people who wanted to go were not able to go because she does a lot of rights life marching and so she's got a big network like people couldn't go because they would have to quarantine for fourteen days so that in itself not they didn't necessarily stop assembly legally but by putting quarantines in you if you assemble. You can't go to work for two weeks. Some people can't afford that anyway so that there are many tendrils of impact of this taint agency of the d. This propaganda of the deed tainted aspects of any of people real politicians who were trying to go through the process of the process itself the people who are peacefully protesting this is it was such a massive that backfires so spectacularly like so much that trump does that i. It's hard me to believe that it's anything but that a massive scwhab in the opposite day theme. I mean it's it's so dead on there. They were reporting on cnn and msnbc. They were actually saying to compare what happened yesterday. In this insurrection to the peaceful black lives matter protests over the summer like they just kept saying protests from black lives matter. How many people died at chaz. Do what how. Many people died at chaz. How many people died throughout all of the protests over the summer. How many buildings burned down. How many people's businesses were ruined. It was a large number you know. They're supposedly a cop died yesterday. Say they say died and they did it now. They say he died again but of the people who died at this thing three of them just died of medical issues but and was telling us one of the guys on her bus which is like a couple of dozen people who was bleeding from a rubber bullet he was he was a collateral damage. There and i just wonder about if that my the comparison of making is that. I don't know what happened to that cop but outside of that. No deaths resulted at the hands of protesters yesterday. Even agents provocateur all the other way which was not true for the protests throughout the summer. Yet another thing that was really interesting about the rue the reporting on the what happened the other day. The capital is that at first. There were a few comments from people covering it. There's a bunch of trump's supporters gathering on the steps tight tight in their tight quarters not wearing masks but then they stopped doing that so they stopped pointing out. There was no social distancing. they stopped pointing out. That there was not mask being worn really and they kept focused singularly on priming the audience to see that. This is a violent insurrection. Before it happened. I think they did that. Because if you split two men and saul linski talks about this if you split too many issues than the audience that you're trying to reach is going to. They're going to be to spread out and they wanted to keep this a singular focus on look at what these trump these evil trump people doing in his insurrection. That this is a worst thing we've ever seen that they even stopped doing the covid stuff that they always do and they'll probably roll that out after this wave crests definitely. Yeah they definitely agree so there were a few little items that i wanted to get to one. Did you say wasn't stephen. Colbert on this train. Did you mention that stephen colbert. And he is such a propaganda agent. It's disgusting his whole monologue the day before yesterday and again yesterday but especially right after it happened in in dc was him basically screaming at republicans. Going look what you've done. Republicans if you haven't left the republican party at the new or just as complicit you have blood on your hands you have basically it used to be maybe if you voted for trump. You're maybe will welcome you back. But it's gotten to the point where it's out in the open loop which you did. Are you happy now. you're evil. You're just as bad you can't like it's him drawing the line. Say no more we will no longer accept you into our welcome society that is bigger than than the things that i saw coming with trump and some tweets are coming with trump with dean and stuff at tweeted at me like on election night but it is in line with this idea that the my first thought was this is going to go horribly wrong. Because they're going to say because a lot of people were trying to split off. People were getting sick of the party's and they're going to say this is what happens. Parties are the way they are for a reason. Bureaucracy is there for a reason to keeps everybody in their lane. If you deviate from the lane you're going to have catastrophe chaos anarchy and that's bad this is what trump will bring you now nobody. Nobody focused it in that way when they were telling the parkland kids to break the law. You know they were in focusing it that way then but now it's like hey and i remember democrats saying it is up to the republican party to get those trump people in line. It is disgusting. I would say so. You no longer believe in democracy and and i got people saying right i mean. That's that's fascism. That's the nazi stuff. Yeah and this. And not because i believe in democracy but because the nazi stuff is where they say. I don't care what you're saying. You need to be dominated. Because i'm right right. Yeah and it's a coordinated message campaign from like you mentioned before the show. We were talking the corporations the government the media the media so much power in this this coordinated messaging campaign not just to demonize trump as hitler but to demonize people who do not capitulate at a personal level to wear it affects their life so we have gone beyond just the demonization of public figure and it is now extending. They want it to affect people personally to the point of people either shutting up or falling in line or risk being pushed out of society. And they're okay with people getting pushed out of society. So like with the thing that you're reading earlier about ben and jerry's and the they're they're not only not serving their shareholders. They don't want certain kinds of customers. They want a different society. They're building a society. It's like starbucks doesn't want here. You know there's no place for you here at starbucks. So i wanted to read a tweet if if it's okay i don't know if it's a non sequitur but it goes with what i but i think important to make this point because this is my point is very well. Said by ram can cambra which appeals to my barbecue in cooking side. Almost nobody's going to understand either of those but whatever okay. Republican party dismantled right in front of us could trump be working for leftist oligarchs. Is it possible. This is all contrived. Trump did nothing to fundamentally change. Dc maybe this is the change. The left was looking for. Today was a huge sigh up giving cover to the swamp hybrid that. I'm not saying you do or everybody else does. But that's been my feeling my expectation all along and i feel like that is the proof in the pudding while he did. Leave that two minute video message on twitter. He was allowed back onto his twitter account. Making that video was a condition of it but it was just a two minute video where he did say there would be a peaceful transfer of power and that a new administration would be taking over on the twentieth. He did say on top of that. That the make america great again the the movement it's not ending it's just beginning and he did reemphasize that on twitter With a follow tweak that it is just it's not the end is just the beginning so i don't know what he's signalling. Exactly you've made the point about the two presidencies before and this could be a bridge way to that. I think that his presidents. I mean yes hit. I think his persona will be the face of the resistance but just like muller was the face of that investigation. I doubt hill actually show up very often but one be in the tunnels with everybody. I think he might be the prerecorded voice of the tunnel. Don't stop working. People things are going to youthful there you go. I can't do it in character. But i but i did see people already. It said i read something. I didn't see the video. I didn't realize it was only two minutes. I didn't know where it was. But i saw something that said that he indicated strongly that he was going to run in two thousand twenty four which nothing in me thinks. He's going to run into unless he just doesn't show up that way to me right. He condemned the rioting. The what they say was writing he did condemn that he did condemn anybody who was breaking the law Oh So i did want to add to little or few things from our conversation with an one that she didn't actually say on air. It just came up later. We were chatting was that she said that while she was waiting for the kid who got arrested to make the bus like he was released to make the bus and she said when when kids were like climbing on cars and stuff that other people were like get down and they did so her her videos. Are you posting those videos on rockin. I'm going to yeah there. It is whatever you will see very clearly the true character and spirit of those protests. When you see it was very generous with us. I she gave me was very interesting. You can't talk him. He wants with your picture anyway so she said while they were waiting everybody was standing around outside the plus smoking so old school new york crowd. I guess and she. She wasn't smoking. I think she made a point but she said a big guy dressed in from top to bottom in black walked quickly past them and had what looks like a holster or an ammo belt but the belt was little was bottles of liquid just all around bottles of liquid. She had no idea that. The bus driver freaked. She had no idea where he was headed what he was doing why. He was there or what was in those bottles of any listeners. Wanna tell us what that could be. I don't know and she had a couple of other things to say. I listened or i read through some of the resource materials that indivisible sends out for protesting and that it's on dot org which is a an antifa website. Send out and i remember. There was something about little little vials of liquid. All right. i can't remember what it was but it's definitely they send out these resources. A here's everything you need to take with you when you go to a protest and here's how you use it or what it's for and that's why you see a lot of people with these back packs and with carrying this stuff because they're getting this resource list of how to survive a protest in what's become professional protesters you see more and more people like that. Well there's source. Says i just i don't know if we've we're going faster way. I mean we hit a lot. I have a couple of things that we didn't get to talk around the patron fifteen changing subjects to some covert stuff about a longer term immunity. Some things that i feel are continuing regressive features of covert policy and vaccine policy. And i have a quick shout out. Great and i have a story about the call for the use of clearview. Ai the facial that we can talk about a little bit and you guys can find your drive time. 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DNB: It's Election Day, What Do They Have In Store For Us? & Twitter Decides Which Sources We Should Trust & Which We Should Not

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34:10 min | 1 year ago

DNB: It's Election Day, What Do They Have In Store For Us? & Twitter Decides Which Sources We Should Trust & Which We Should Not

"Welcome to the giants thirty minutes. Forty five commercial free minutes for patients. Jam packed today from the perspective of truth. Liberty and justice is monica for our top story. Today is election day. It's november twenty twenty. What will happen. We'll good or evil prevail. What do you think. I think that good is to. I think that it's going to be insane. And we don't know what's going to prevail and we don't know what's good we don't necessarily even know what's evil because everything is accusing each other of the exact same thing that the other is doing and it's just a bunch of mass uncertainty and it's being set up as we've discussed for conflict. I think conflict will win out. I think this will continue. I don't think it's going to end. Today i agree. I think that either way i hate to say it. I know people don't like it. It is evil versus evil. The lesser of two evils is evil versus evil goodwill not prevail. The nature of the system means that whoever takes that position must take on the mantle of evil. They will by the end of it. Kill somebody and we're sure. Yeah here's the thing about this lesser of two evils stuff. Is that when you can get people so worked up in this emotional state where they are nothing but focused on how much they hate this evil other than they will stand beside the devil and never realize it yes. They'll never i always say they'll never look over their own shoulder. They always see what's behind the shoulder of the voter across the street but they never lived over their shoulder and see what the other side sees. That's when like the scales really fell from my eyes are half the people idiots or jerks like your reasoning. You know that that people have to be operating under the that. Our side is completely smart and right. In all of these other people are just dumb and stupid and neva or evil down more evil right idiots or jerks idiot surgery the other half is all idiots or jerks and then you looking like why. It's like well because they're rich. It was like what the republicans now aren't rich while they're white supremacists like well but they're not really supreme are they. They're a bunch of deplorables are they. Not what where is the. where's the. Hey like where's this. The hate ear and on the other side. I mean i just i feel like the the the left is just so manipulated right now so stella wrote on our patriae on gave big kudos for saying that the warning people against getting provoked at the polling places or whatever today and she is right. Because i've heard stories of people going out or somebody who's kind of insulated going out of their way to be provocative against trump supporters. So it's an actually. We were on this union of the unwanted last night with g edward griffin. I was blown the freak away. Because i'm a huge mega fan of his. And i asked him after the show he'd come on our show and he said yes which really super super excited but he said what i thought which is if they really want riots. They're going to have. They're more likely to get them. If biden loses. Because you're really probably not gonna get your kind of patriotic gun-toting americans to just start burning down private property like the methods that they're the pattern that they're going for is totally different. So i'm saying really. It's the trump supporters. Have to watch out being provoked. The left has to watch out for their own stuff. But i have occasions are going to come from the left to the right. What's up guys such uncertainty in the world right now. The best way to have true security is by growing your own food and neighbors feed and seed smyrna georgia they got you covered the alfred garden supplies vegetable plants chickenfeed bird feed farm supply everything. You're gardner farm. Needs even host a farmer's market on saturdays from ten. Am to four pm and right now for propaganda report listeners. Only they're offering ten percent of all online purchases neighbors feed and seed dot com just type in coupon code prop. Pr up all caps. Check out and if you have any questions give them a call at six. Seven eight six five three eight three eight and i also want to add that neighbors 2021 seed packs organic seed packs and they're cool weather seed packs are all now available online at neighbors speeding dot com and that coupon code prop will get you ten percent off so be sure and check that out that makes me think about when we heard jan schakowsky the congresswoman or senator from chicago. Talk about how at the net roots nation. She was doing an active training training. These activists we need to see photos of people in wheelchairs getting pulled out of their wheelchairs by the police. This is called breath. Dogging is a major tactic. These activists us and they're gonna be deploying it today and in the following days. They're going to be trying to provoke people into doing something that they can catch on camera. Send a flip friendly new source out of context and frame them as some crazy person and that is exactly what that james oh key films in in various house video where sure he got the guy fired but the guy was like oh. It was the perfect thing like that. We sent so lady got punched in the face. I remember it was her husband. One of those guys go. Yeah yeah that's right that's right. I forgot about that. So you have this where they're saying it openly and then you show the conspiracy the plotting and i'm not saying i think that there's all that stuff is on the right to different kinds of stuff but there's always been a lot of voter fraud and stuff on the right. Believe it or not or whatever election. So and then wasn't there another veritas sydney. Come out with another one now on some of his stuff a little bit. But i don't think that good. I'm not that the others some of it is good. Some of it's misleading. Yes it can be misleading. But he did catch a woman on tape a tape. Nobody uses tape seymour. He did record a woman on digital film or whatever she was like going door to door registering people to vote. You know stacey. Abrams has these teams of people. That go around georgia doing this. They've been training to do this and they help you understand the vote and we've talked about her longtime time. Yes this is exactly why there is a problem with male and votes. This is one of the problems because you can have people like these people. Stacey abrams our training go door to door and say hey. Let me just tell you which one to fill in. Gimme gimme your pencil. i'll do it. You know that kind of thing. Well veritas caught a woman on video doing that. She was knocking on doors and they had somebody infiltrate in was working with them and this woman was talking to this person who she had helped registered to vote and she was like did. Did you vote for the republican. It looks like you voted for the. You promised me. You're going to vote for the democrat when i registered you like a mobster like this was this was a death and deal who you are voting for a republican. I wonder what she you think. Pay offered them anything to register or they just bully you into it. It sounded like there could have been offers. But i don't know i don't. I don't didn't see any video from the actual registration process. I just hear her just verbally abusing this person for not voting democrat like the only reason we registered. You was to vote democrat and you voted republican here. That was the sentiment and he confronted this woman on it and the woman who just she had nothing to say she just walked away and yeah. I'm sure they're trained on that too. And that is what they're doing the guarantee you is what they're doing they're not they're not registering people. Vote because they care about the numbers. They don't care about the numbers they want. They're registering they want to force people to choose what they tell them to choose. Yeah al gore. I think most people cigarettes that was the that was a cat. Douglas i think it was sent us a couple of messages one saying she keeps getting handwritten postcards with basically the same language. Saying we know. We know that you are registered. You have not yet voted. She says the same thing and she also said she wanted dibs on this prediction. It's prediction i haven't heard before so i'll if it happens it happens. She said trump wins in a landslide but does not declare victory he. Just let's it spin out of control. If that happens. I would certainly be interesting. I wanted to place a bet last night. I was and predicted dot. Org can't do it in california. I don't think my husband said no. But i think it was like one point. Five odds that biden would win. It's very very low payout. Which means they really think that's going to happen. And then i think like two and a half that trump would win so you get a lot more. If you've got a dollar on trump so bookie or what site. I looked at mybookie dot org note and a lot. No i was looking at something like vegas vegas books whenever i don't know so so i did want to do it. But it does look like people think that biden's gonna win is still. Do not think that ever be president. I thought about the betting thing but my thing is i. I think that if it were real than i think it's trump landslide. I think he'd win the popular vote but the problem is i don't think we're going to be told what really happens. It was the election. Wasn't the popular or the electoral. What i was looking. I was just. Who is the president who wins the election. And i think gonna know so even if right. I don't think we're gonna find we're not gonna find out. I agree so twitter declared. We've been talking about this and this is this is happening. They declared that only seven mainstream outlets are approved to call the election results otherwise if someone calls them other than that. There's some requirements you have to have is. Your twitter has to be a certain size for them to block you or put a warning on it because he's got to have a certain level of influence but they determined who the arbiter of truth and reality are when it comes to the results of this election. So the few outlets everybody else who tries to call them we'll be we'll have a warning label so trump declares victory he will have a warning label put on his his His tweet and if any other politician declares victory they will have warning labels and less these sources these authoritative sources are the ones. That did it so here are the ones that can do. Abc news the ap. Cbs news cnn decisions. Desk hq fox. News and nbc. News and twitter said in their posts. These these sources have been deady. They're dedicated independent election source decision desk. They have those decision desk so we must trust them and they said they're doing this because it's the right thing to do to protect the integrity of the conversation around the election while the counting is ongoing and before the results are announced by the state authorities. So these are. I'm gonna go out on the limits davies behind the scenes. The state sanctioned propaganda outlets. It's exactly what they are. Yeah they here's some the warning labels you might get if you're not one of those so if you have a lot of people and you tweet out that somebody one they'll say this tweet is sharing inaccurate information about the presidential race that contradicts official results and projections or they might say or. They said that tweets that are meant to incite interference with the election process or with the implementation of election results. Such as through violent action will be subject to removal. So they'll take those tweets down altogether. This goes back to what they're teaching people when it comes to news literacy and that is only trust to source the content doesn't matter it's just like the hunter biden stored the butter hiding story where to get you press doley the content. I have something to say about that. Are you ready to try. Cbd products and see why so many people swear by everything from cd oil to body lotion to muscle. Rub true him. Science dot com is at the ready with the highest quality products. They developed over decades in the business and a lifelong pursuit of nutrition health and spiritual well-being. They are eager to introduce you to the cbd experience and so confident in their products. They offer a thirty day. Money back guarantee and a special offer for propaganda report listeners to learn more about their company their passion and their products go to true hemp science dot com slash prop report. So did you hear this thing. That glenn greenwald guy quit the intercept. Yeah he stepped down. He was talking about hunter biden in joe biden and he said critical things and he was being censored so the the fact that he is that that whole edward snowden glenn greenwald thing still has legs is really shocking. Because i don't know if you even remember. Despite i remember came out and my husband said to me boy once that story broke. You're so right about that guy. It's over for those guys. It was a story in pando that reveal that pierre roma jarre z. In bed with the us government. And i and i think it was by implication source but it was absolutely an evidence that the us government to work behind the scenes for the latest revolution color revolution whatever underground subversive movement in ukraine. So here he is. Pierre roma jarre working in the deep state against russia in ukraine side by side with federal government using private money to get in there and he is supposedly the guy who gave edward snowden or supports him and his mouth. Because pierre roma jarre ebay is the guy behind the intercept who bankrolled. And glenn greenwald. Was i think a pretty failed. Journalists like living outside the country a little bit of scandal attached to him so he was looking for work when this thing popped up and i just always found that whole the idea. It's just it's just look away. Don't look at that. Somebody gets complete. It's like they did. Isis beheading in libya fox news had to admit that it was green screened and looped though peop- people were dying because there was military retaliation and they just like never addressed that again. I just acted like it was not reveal that it was fake. Like it just makes me nuts anyway. So that's the latest thing with with him and edward snowden. I think you mentioned is seeking. Russian american dual citizenship. I'm not even sure thing and i'm pretty sure. If you are seeking it you are going to need an address or you'll lose your american citizenship. I don't think it works as quite as easy as i don't know maybe not. Maybe not i don't know he i. He had expressed desire to one day. Come back to america. Yeah maybe i don't know. But i just want you think about. Do you think that we have a lot more privacy now than we did. Before edward snowden came out blew the whistle. i would say definitely. No we all right so there you go your in your hat and smoke it smoke. Your hat was speaking right before we started recording today and she was given the speech about how the powerful people are attempting to make it harder for us to vote for us to vote making the lines. Longer she was. She was reading a stacey. Abrams written script. Something something like stacey. Abrams will say the voter suppression air to laying that voter suppression narrative. Hard core early on in the day. And we're gonna continue here and get not expect. Stacey berms her voice to emerge in the coming days see again that makes me think that biden victory is unlikely because they would be wasting. These huge psi ops. Yes i would agree. That a by victory is unlikely. But we're not gonna now. We're not going to get a decision for a while. i think. I think this is the beginning. I don't think this is the end. I think it's not even mathematically possible to have a decision for our. When i saw in my mail in ballot that they had seventeen days in california to count but is going to be called. You know i could call california right now for biden. I'm calling it mega get suppressed on twitter. Be careful jacqueline. Come your house and say you can't say that with this taliban beard jack jags is gonna come to. My house is rarely yoga looking for some weed as we do. Yeah jack jack is not a convincing. Billionaire wants that image of him with the long beard. And hobart does this too and a lot of other people do it. Co bear has his hair shaggy and longer like he hasn't cut it since the pandemic because because the salons are close. Yeah so but it's not like kobe doesn't have quite actress. I shocking i. Jack doesn't have no it's just like they're trying to make sure your hair look shaggy dirty. I've been at home forever and haven't been able to having showered maybe on his face. State senator omen from. I think ohio. I'll wear the mask on the camera. Just for optics. Little political theater zoom optics is what it is. Optics via zoom is optics optics. Not toobin when you're not youtube and you gotta you gotta go for the zapped and we have no idea if jack was youtube and the other day he might just be super calm and have a great poker face. So don't want to think about especially when ted cruz was talking to. And that's probably really when he got got into. It pretty excited. No he probably just like when you go to your happy place de personalization cruises calling him a piece of crap or whatever christian guy ted cruz. He's so full of eighty kirk. Says he is quick to anger. Or whatever uses vulgarity. I don't know i'm not. I'm not buying what ted cruz selling. And i'm not buying a jack dorsey selling. I'm just telling you right now. Importance same show. So i one last thing on the election or how much you want. I don't care that in downtown. La the lakers came. And when the lakers want people just went around graffiti ing everything with the world series. Came down and people expect the same thing downtown. La people like well obviously the going to be here. Because we know what's coming so windows were broken. Cops ever showed up so now election night downtown. La people are putting up electric fences getting private security. They're boarding up their windows. This is what i've been saying. This third world ing of the us. So is i'm one and it's third world. The other it's ussr where health care education and security are all going to be a tiered so you get the private want people before the privately are going to be fine and the people who asked the public services are going to be on their own and then we have the other elements of the ussr. Stuff where they can drag you off to the gula. They don't let you travel abroad. Or actually the other countries are going to impose that on us and then lines are long. Shelves are empty. Selection is down. There is like that here. It's pretty messed up. Well they are boarding up businesses here and this wartime these people are acting like its wartime by boarding things places in downtown. La like near the stable centre and stuff they pay. I think they pay like a lot a lot of taxes. They pay for their own basically their own police there. I don't understand why the cops aren't there. I mean it just makes no sense. I wonder if with those things boarded up. If we're going to see stuff happening in suburbs that would really be. I'm telling you the people in this fancy neighborhood called called in a protest who even knows the street is like it's just a little backwater full of immigrants is so don lemon the other night when they were doing his little. He's a little flirtatious flirtatious. Pass off with chris. cuomo chris. cuomo gets book ended by cooper linden work session and the little sandwich. Sarah say on cooper lemon salmon and then they just talking about how his he knows some friends that are trump supporters and. He's tried to talk to him. He's tried to reason with them. He's tried to try to get them to see the light but they would not do it and so he just had to cut it off. He had to end it with them. And i didn't think much of that at a time but then today my friend was telling me that his friend who is progressive in new almost certainly watch. Cnn said almost the exact same thing so it was like a behavioral signal right ahead of election day. Hey it's time to cut your trump friends off. They've had all the opportunity in the world. Get rid of them. That is that kind of thing will amplify the division in the country. She can't even talk or communicate with them. Not just at the political level. The politician grins. Yeah you know your admonition against getting provoked. Let's recommend that people extend that to their own homes. 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Just email them at custom at liberty gear dot net so please support a fellow liberty lover and a propaganda report fan you might know and love and as a bonus until the end of september all products are ten percent off only at liberty gear dot net. Did you see the songbird trailer. I heard about it. I haven't seen it yet. Tell me about michael bay. Who what was i watching. Within the other day. I remember people that means the terminator guy. Right makes the terminator movies. James cameron he. He made the transformer movies. Michael betas sorry transformer. That's what i meant. yeah. I love terminator transformers. Little out of my out of my age group think so anyway. So movies are good. I do know that and this thing was freaking terrifying. It was about the. Us was l atr where it was where i mean. People were in lockdown. It's like two hundred thirtieth week of lockdown and they had like fever detectors everywhere if you come out of your building. You could be shot if you aren't within the protocol and has some chick in her apartment on the phone with her boyfriend. Cowan think my neighbor has a fever. And and and then all of a sudden you see the pain on immune immune there and the boyfriend. Saint don't matter it. don't you open that door. So she does and they drag the check away never to be seen again for short not and it's just freaking terrifying. It's terrifying. there's no. And i don't understand why they're giving us a movie. Why shouldn't say donor semi can. Certainly speculate by is absolutely terrifying. And of course feed into the fear. I don't mean to. I can't decide whether knowledge is power or fear is the mind killer. What's the fears. I don't know but i'm just saying. What are we supposed to do. Because i am worried about that stuff. That's stuff is actually happening. Not that at that extreme but that is the next step. Maybe that's what they want us to think. So we get the vaccine that would be the simplest explanation well vaccine hesitancy is on the rise and obviously because there's all these stories about the problems with vaccines that have come out and there's a show utopia that's trending on twitter which you can't watch that show and not become a little vaccine hesitant. Maybe they're trying to do that so that they can get people to so they have to mandate them i i i don't know i mean maximize the conflict certainly because on one hand. You're promoting vaccine hesitancy through this messaging but on the other hand you're also saying that people who are vaccine hesitant are queuing on crazy and evil. Yeah i think the vaccine stuff. I think they're just trying to get ahead of it to get it out there. But i was reading this article in the journal monday. She was just yesterday like this was a lot jam-packed these days of news anyway the headline was doctors. Tackle the mystery of cova dhs long haulers long-haul and it talks about young people. People really weren't we're never in the hospital but they have these really long term impacts of covert and like with every single thing that you hear about covert does cover. Does that is what we think. It's just anecdotal. They're just anecdotes of specific people. Who have this experience. So in that case when you're talking about millions of people in this country or hundreds of thousands of people who died or millions of people who were tested positive you can especially when cova travels always like extreme cove it as travels entirely with co morbidity so any anecdote you can tell about somebody. Having this random unexpected outcome could be a function of the thing that got them really sick in the first place not necessarily kobe but there are also a couple of other three other things that go hand in hand i think with some of the stuff the psychological and physical the deal teary effects to your mental and physical health of being locked down for this long. That's one thing. The possibility that that electrical activity internet activity extreme exposure to the internet of all the time five g. I don't know why but there is. I haven't read it yet. But i think it's called on the invisible. Rainbow is a book that skyrocketing popularity and our circles about the connection between electricity and disease in humans. So could be that and then the third thing is it. Could it got to the end getting through this article. I couldn't. i was just waiting for it. I was just freaking waiting for it. And it's talking about genetic janika who six months after getting sick with kovic has has persistent fatigue problems with memory and concentration. I mean you could ask like half the women i know and they all say that's what they have. I mean you just are always. It's epstein barr. Whatever but get this for the kicker the constellation of such neurological symptoms along with persistent fatigue. Joint pain and headaches resembles myalgia gic encephalopathy. Oh myelitis also known as chronic fatigue syndrome. Which is what i like. Chronic except is very widespread. So if you're gonna say causes that but one of the things that that that this these kind of illnesses can come from or at least myelitis seems to be a word that pops up a lot with this vaccine side effects. The acute flaccid myelitis transverse myelitis. It's when the vaccine makes your vaccine hypersensitive ties your immune system and can get it to a attack your own systems particularly the mile nation of your brain spinal column stuff like that myelitis so i. This is the third thing that these side effects might be. But i had really thought from the beginning that they would say that you can have long term effects of kovin even if you did not have symptoms of it and that those long-term effects would not necessarily be what you would expect from a respiratory illness and it was going to be a bunch of random stuff. I thought this. I thought this i said it even a number of times and too many times worse. They were because they are doing that in the fifteen. I will tell you about some more news on. Covert testing couple of things. I want to say before we get into that. If you don't mind before we close. I want another texting. I haven't cast my vote yet and we're watching it. They're gonna kill me or get my neighbors to kill me. I don't know does it. Say your name fred. It does yes. Yeah sure it does so. I wanted to so we went commercial free and by the way i just got very glowing message saying Did not realize how much he's enjoying the commercial free forty-five minutes straight patriots on version of the show so i highly recommend people. Give it a shot. You can cancel it anytime. Patriot dot com slash propaganda report. Give it a shot if you don't like it. Cancel but before we start the shout outs because we went commercial free for patrons so you don't want to have kershaw's and commercial free at saint time but i did wanna give andrew his shot at. He did not here last month. Which is he says to wants to shout out to a world of healthcare workers pre and post madness who helped him and his wife in their quest to bring their first freedom level loving baby into this wild world from hawaii to dc germany west africa france check republican now rural alaska stands humbly before they're compassionate care but i know because of the awfully impenetrable system. He had to be his own. Best advocate learn the science. Do your research and engage your provides information. Make them late for the next round on the hospital appointment in the clinic but ever since humor about it they actually enjoy the chance to give you back full informed consent on health decisions no crap we made it work and welcomed baby eighty to life on september second. Oh and gives me updates. It sounds like they're having a good time but anyway just wanted to make sure that andra knew that we appreciate celebrate appreciate vice and celebrate his joy and that may be the last son official shoutout. Also congratulations invasion fifteen. I have so much to tell you. I can tell you what i think. Vat the world series. Justin turner story was really all about and dude. What is happening in michigan. Sounds like it's australia. There were new zealand is getting is getting way i would call it nazi but i'm just going to call it way. Ashqelon the hash on talk ashkelon and michigan great. You guys can find your drive time. News blasts every weekday afternoon the proper dot com your favorite podcasts and platform with propaganda report. Podcast feed if you want access that extra content lupo time posted the patriot dot com slash propaganda report become patron. We will talk to. Y'all tomorrow have a great day. Stay safe the provocations.

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Episode 09: Lymphedema Advocacy:                                               The Lymphedema Treatment Act and How You Can Be An Advocate on World Lymphedema Day March 6th.

Lymphedema Podcast

25:32 min | 2 years ago

Episode 09: Lymphedema Advocacy: The Lymphedema Treatment Act and How You Can Be An Advocate on World Lymphedema Day March 6th.

"Podcast. I'm buddy Westbrook, certified therapist and the host of lymph Edina podcast. The purpose of limiting podcast is provide answers and explanations for people affected by the disease. Limiting this podcast patients, family members medical professionals and anyone interested in them for Dima each week. I discuss a new topic related to this disease to help you learn more and navigate better the journey ahead. Disclaimer as a certified limiting therapist all information provided is based on my professional experiences in education. I recommend anyone who feels they have lymph Dima or have been medically diagnosed with lymph Dima seek in-person medical treatment from certified liberty Methodist, I'm so passionate about teaching others about lymph Dima that I created this podcast. Thanks for joining me. I hope you're ready to lend something new today. This is episode nine of lengthy podcast. Look back for another episode of limiting podcast today. Have the pleasure of introducing you all to Judy Woodward duty Woodward was born with Linda Dima due to vascular malformation called klippel-trenaunay syndrome, like many with Dima she went untreated as a child and that under treated for the next decade into adulthood, often hearing the phrase from doctors, there's nothing we can do you will just have to live with it. Judy was fortunate along the way to find the national lithium-ion network and MLD therapist in Dallas where she received proper treatment and compression opening up possibilities for an active life and future health as a former art director in advertising Judy volunteers for many creative projects anything from building to choreography to graphic design. Along with her engineer turned entrepreneur has been of almost thirty years. They're raising two daughters and enjoy traveling and the arts after years of Emily, and compression, she is thrilled to now be playing tennis on a team judy's life has been blessed. Despite the struggles of lymph diva it's filled with faith love and insight. She is a member of the national liberty networks. Limp science advocacy program and looks forward to employing her creative skills to solve problems and build awareness for the Olympic community. She is also a board member of the Olympic advocacy group. Hey, judy. Welcome to the podcast. Oh, hey, great to be here. Thank you. Thank you for being on with us. So I wanna point out real quick to the audience that my connection with you is that I have served or volunteered in Washington DC to help advocate for the Olympic Matric act. So I was so impressed by your leadership skills and your organization for the Texas team that I just knew whenever I was on the topic of the new treatment actor that I wanted to have you on. So I really appreciate you agreeing to being here today grand. So glad you thought of me. I I remember also how much fun we had in DC 'em. So glad that I can help you as you try to get the word out about lymph Dima. Thanks. So this month is among awareness month and Wednesday, March six is world fifty my day. So today's. Podcasts focus is on advocacy for lymph Dima. So I want to start first with what your role within the lymph Dima advocacy group. Well, I am I serve on the board of the lymph demon advocacy group. I am technically the chair awareness this time, which means that I'm helping just get the word out in kind of communications way than with the group for about five years. And I would like to point out to anyone listening a lot of the graphic design is a lot of your work. Correct. Yes. Much of it not all of it that much it is. And I've also I found if I couldn't do it. I found an artist to help help us. So yes, that's been one of the gratifying things about working with the group kind of been able to use my skills and background as they've needed. It. Well, one of my favorite pieces of work of yours is the not one disease poster I keep it up on my desk. And I try to have it in front of everyone's eyesight when they come into the clinic because they'll read in this. I didn't know that was associated with limiting too. So I really enjoy that one. It's one of my favorites that stood here. I'll also just share. It wasn't just me. That's a team effort to. It's like I I was able to help direct that win. And we also had a team over at. The other group that one of the manufacturers they had they in volunteered some of their team to help us with that as well to do some work than it was that was a collaborative effort. And of course, we had our medical adviser and people giving the facts and figures, so it's fun to be part of a team effort like that. So for you being so involved with the Olympic advocacy group. You probably know whole lot about project the Olympic team a treatment act for anyone listening who may not be familiar. Can you explain what the limiting treatment act is? All right. Well, the liberty Metron act is a Bill in congress that has. The purpose of Bill is to provide for Medicare coverage for doctor prescribed compressions. Applies and gets currently Medicare does not cover the compression supplies, which is the key cornerstone of treatment for limiting patients, and it will also serve to just enable patients to maintain their health a long term basis, and it reduces the healthier healthcare costs associated with the disease that can come from complications last year was a pivotal year for the lymph ima treatment act. Can you explain why? Well, yes, we last your each year actually that we've been in congress are Bill has increased in its support. And it's a very good story. And it's apparently as we've learned it's not it's not an easy thing to do to get cosponsors and get support in congress. And so over the years, it actually started back with this particular Bill almost nine years ago and each year, we've gained more more co sponsors last year at the end of the year. We have had were the top supported healthcare Bill all of congress. With what was it? Three hundred fifty one cosponsors total bi-cameral bipartisan included, people from all fifty states this eighty four percent support of congress. So that was a big year. However, I mean our goal is to pass the Bill. So we did not pass it. But it was really good. And we're really poised to. Have more success in this coming congress? So last September Olympia directive was included in the appropriations minibus that was passed. Can you explain how this helps to elevate us in this next tier? Yes, we did get passage of report language that included. Are our issue about getting Medicare coverage for Medicare for in the CMS department? So the report language was actually was written. So that is guide it guided CMS encourage them to cover the cost of compression supplies now was not a directive in mandate. So we stopped short of having the effective making them do it. But apparently in congress. This is a very good thing at the very big step that both the house and Senate pass this language and. That really helps us in a number of ways it helps from what we've learned that in the future that set you up for the next your post appreciates year where you could get more a stronger directive, and it also as you're going and asking for for passage of the Bill in in a larger vehicle or even as a standalone Bill gives it a lot of weight to it. That's like we can point to see we had this much support over appropriations who are very highly respected committee. And so it's a very big plus for our Bill has the I know in the past whenever we were in the orientation part of the lobby days. They will talk about the ways, and means committee has the ways and means committee met on this this particular. Piece of legislation. On this year or was last year. Last lash, they have been the ways and means committee, Dave Reichert, who was the. Lead sponsor for the Bill. He he serves ways committee ways and means committee, and they were taking the primary role for the spill, and they were trying trying to get it passed. But they were also simultaneously trying to work with even directly and see if they would just enact this measure regular just straightforward regulatory when they felt like that they had exhausted. Most every channel there they really put more effort into than passing it toward the end of the year, and they just really ran out of time. But we were able to meet with their committee health committee and really get into the details. They have done taken some more steps. I mean, they're very serious about it. We were encouraged by that. And I think in this coming congress. We are there's been a flip. And but that is actu-. Really doesn't present a problem might be advantage in some ways. So as we've seen things just move forward. In those conversations we had just continue. I think he learned a lot from that. I just feel like every step taken a set us up for the chances of getting a very Bill because I think what we've learned is there's the devil's in the details, and we don't just wanna pass any Bill. We don't want to just pass this no matter what we wanna make sure that that as this Bill is enacted that we have Seamus is knowledgeable about what we're tending that. They've put some thought into it that it can be written in implemented with patients in mind. And that we get an outcome. That is really beneficial for everyone. And this year. What's the current state of the L TA? Okay. Well, this year, we are pleased to announce that we are we have Senate Bill introduced as of I guess a week or so ago Senate Bill five one eight because you know, every every two years there's new congressional session. And this year's session. We had to reintroduce the Bill we did not change anything except I think a an implementation date. It was a minor detail. So we were able to introduce that we have our Senate Bill is led by Senator can't well again and co lead with new Senator new to lead is Senator young from Indiana, and he is on the Senate finance committee. It's very good. And so the two of them are really good team. And they are very excited about it. We also at the same time we introduced that Bill. We also had thirty original sponsors that joined in and from many states, and I urge everyone to look at our website and see if your Senator is one of those co-sponsors, you should probably go in there. And thank then, we have our phone numbers listed on the website. It's really great news. And it's very bypass list almost equal and Democrats Republicans are Consol has both senators on all ready sodas, Oklahoma Mississippi. Alaska. So just go ahead and check it out. It's really good news for us. That is really good news. How side we are on the verge of of introducing that Bill. We have you know. A new lead sponsor because our champion from last year represented Reichert his retired. But in place Representative Jan Schakowsky. And she is teaming up with Blumenauer from ways and means she's on the energy and commerce committee, and we will have. Two more Republicans are going to come forward on that. I think that soon as we get that figured out. Finally, actually, one of them on ways, and means will be represent Kelly from Pennsylvania where I used to live in that district little so that's really nice for me. And we are still about to have the fourth person Republican from the committee on energy and commerce. So just in a few weeks that should be done. How can someone become an advocate for the L TA? Well, it's very easy. Really the best way to do is just to go on our website. And look and see what interests you. We we've got on the left side of a website you'll see holistic, thanks. You could go on the site. And and if that's free to just join us a state team member, you can write your story can pick numerous things to do if you would rather just make phone calls. There's a list of of the off says you can call from you can write emails, and you can go in there. If you click on that on the selection says writing Email, it will walk you through how to do that. And it's kind of an automated process, and or you can just go directly to your representatives website and go through that direction, and then you can go to our lobby days. We're having inveigh. There are quite a few things you can do you can be as involved as you want to you could sign up for newsletter just receive information without having to do anything. I just hear about it. It's really up to you. It's very easy. You saying all of that reminds me about when I was first certified as a liberty Mathare post. I was just hungry for information. I was just trying to learn more about infighting. I wanted to learn more about how other people were approaching it. What was being done in other places? And I remember stumbling upon the Olympic retreatment act, and I did like you said, I just filled out the very easy forms to contact my representatives to become a Texas team member. And before I knew it, I was signed up for lobby days. And I was like I'm doing this. We're going to get this done. And I think relieving I was like we didn't get it. And I just I think I thought we were going to run in there. And like a riot the capital, and they're here you go. You can have compression for everyone. But yeah. To it. Yeah. So I'm really bit. Yes. I opened you are such an inspiration. Because you are the one of the most busiest advocates we've ever had this love it. I mean, your curiosity is awesome. And I mean, just all the patients oughta know out there that that having a therapist like you in in our midst is so wonderful to have someone so willing to just learn and do something different in new, and and just really, you know, be it's a creative. I think area because there's so many ways to approach helping people, and I really appreciate all you do just professionally and then just be putting your extra time in as an advocate. Makes it great. Yeah. And I'm excited to come back for my third year. I saw the Email that the dates are going to be announced for may. What would you say to someone listening today that might be interested in attending lobbies? This may. Okay. We'll yes, it would be I would really recommend doing it. If you're able to do it. It's I would go in line at look at our website. I don't think the current where we are now at you can kinda read about right now on the website talks about people's experiences kinda gives their little quotes of they're good experiences. They have but they also we also have training that as we announce the dates more and start opening registration. They'll be training seminars ahead of time. There will be you know, just more information. So you might feel comfortable there's we have a hotel real estate together out by the airport in DC. It's easy to kind of get. We have a meal how it works is we fly unusually on a Sunday. And if you wanna find earlier make a little tour out of DC. Can do that and Sunday evening. We usually have a welcome kind of kick off dinner. There might be some just give a little history about what we're doing and our plan for the next day, and we get to meet each other. And I think that's one of the best things about lobbies just on a personal level is just the opportunity to meet other people that have your condition. I know I'm felt really isolated a lot in my life. Didn't really share so much of the time. What I had because you know, it's like not many people have it. And it's just it's kind of a Downer. Sometimes it really wanna keep bringing that up. And this is a way that really all you can just meet people. It's very, you know, good personally, just to connect with other people have your condition meet people from different states. And and then learn about how government works. It's very interesting. And yeah, I was like you to I thought it was they're not this out. And here I am fibers later. But. It's it's it's makes your eight the good side of our government. You can't just go in there. And do something nutty. I mean, they're really you have to have your act together. You have to make a case for what you're doing. And I respect that. It's also frustrating because it's such a common sense thing. It's like why this already done, and he learned that there's so many other things out there that are people are trying to do just like our thing. And then he realized how much how what a good case we've made in makes you appreciate all of the work this gone before us, and it's just it's very eye opening. So I recommended I think you could always reach out to any of us for questions about how it works. I really I enjoyed my time. And I think like I had already mentioned before I had this false idea of other than just going in and writing the capital in getting everyone to sign the petition or whatever I thought in my mind, we were going to be doing I thought it'd be like oh to go to the Smithsonian, and then I'll go see Lincoln Memorial. And then I may have a meeting, and then I may go back visit another museum or something. But it is one hundred percent not like that. If you're going to do any sightseeing. Yet coming early or you're staying late because once you've walked forty thousand steps all over that capital. You are wiped out at the end of the night. Yeah. But in a good way, you've you feel -ccomplish and you feel just excited for the cause. Right. And it's great. It's a great way to just have your voice in how have your said. Because a lot of what you do at the meetings. But we try to do their short that you can't take up a lot of time for these offices. But we try to give time said that up. So you have fifteen minutes if you're in the room with these staffers, usually don't meet the congress person directly. But sometimes we do and you share with them. They really are great listeners, and for the most part, I mean, it's just very helpful to be able to share your story, you're here other people's story and just to be able to say that to your Representative and have that on record. It's. You know, there's there's no downside of getting an opportunity to speak up for yourself. And you know, it just it sounds corny. But there's not many countries in the world, you can do this. And it's it's just kind of makes you feel like, wow, it's not such a bad thing. So I I think it's a great process. Just experience just to go through. Mark six is world for demon day. I'm because lymphoma is affecting people all over the world. They're advocates and organizations working hard to bring public awareness to this disease. How can the listeners of limiting podcast advocate for the TA this world limiting midday. Well, I think that of course, going to our website is great you can pick and choose what you wanna do there. And I think look at other groups because there are some groups that are focusing on research and some might have a local event that they're doing in your town. You can pass out information for our Bill to one of other things you can do is we if you if there's a place you can look they have forms like just. Some printed for its information forms, you can put them in your most doctors offices don't mind if you give them to them and they'll set them out. Lots of people do that. And you can just mention your condition. People just get a little bit more open that what you have. You'd never know someone else might have this condition, and and because you shared your shared it with them there. They might say my aunt has that I never knew that was called thima. That's a great thing. You can do. And I think. You can also if you know any local media, you could ask if they could do a story or write a letter to the editor. And and also were also doing some fundraising to offset costs if you wanted to just donate if that's what you're able to do you can go to our website. There's a big Donut donate button. And we'll be having a March madness. That coming up in March two will nounce that for Olympic team a month. So they can. So if you would like to donate, you can just help us offset, the costs for lobby days, as are, my main suggestions awesome. Those are great. Thank you, so Judy. Thank you so much for being such a good guest today. I really appreciate all your information and expertise on the liberty Metron act, but mostly your work that you're doing behind the scenes on the hours, you're putting in. So I really appreciate you just want to say thank you for all of us from the community. We'll you're so welcome. And if I didn't say it but dates are set for March are may fifty seven for the lobby days. If your listeners wanted to that. But I am so happy that you've thought of me in. Appreciate you in letting me have my voice today. You are welcome. So for the rest of the listeners. Who are aware of klippel-trenaunay or even judy's personal story? I'm going to put a link up to her story on the website. You'll be able to see that after or before you listen to the podcast, but it's gonna be on there for you guys to read more about her and just see her experience and how she has gotten to where she is today. So Judy Alec forward to seeing you in may fifth through seventh in DC. Yes. Thank you. You're welcome mother. Theresa says loneliness and the feeling of being unwanted as the most terrible, poverty, this podcast is here for you to find friendship in a community for your journey with lymph Dima. I hope you've enjoyed learning. More about the limiting treatment act and ways to advocate for world. Medina day Email me with your story if you'd like to share name podcast at chemo dot com or visit the website limiting podcasts dot com to submit a topic for another episode.

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June 29, 2021 - Full Show

Chicago Tonight

56:46 min | 4 months ago

June 29, 2021 - Full Show

"Good evening and welcome to chicago tonight. I'm brandon friedman and i'm parachutes on the show tonight so we can't let the stunts derails. From what the residents want us to do one on one with mayor lori lightfoot about the spike in summer violence city council breakdowns and much more. This is a generational vestment we talked to lawmakers about president biden's push massive infrastructure investments. Renou in chicago. Sculptor richard hunt and his years. In the making new monument crusading journalist ida b wells in brownsville article about big city. Reporters anchors legitimate. Fantasy did after nearly three decades phil ponce in his regular appearances on chicago tonight. A reflection on his career in journalism but first some of today's top stories illinois. Financial outlook is much brighter today. According to moody's investor service which gave the state its first bond rating upgrade in more than twenty years. It came as welcome news to governor. Jay pritzker this monumental development from moody's investor service recognizes the depth of our efforts to reverse the damage of the past with this ratings upgrade illinois is poised to save millions of taxpayer dollars after weathering a in a generation financial storm caused by covid nineteen pandemic. Moody's cited fiscal improvements such as constrained use of federal aid increased pension payments and keeping the state's bill backlog in check for the ratings increase travelers. Coming to chicago from other states will no longer have to follow a travel order which required quarantine or negative covid test upon arrival city. Health officials announced the transition today from travel order to an advisory since none of the fifty states are recording more than fifteen new cases per day per one hundred thousand residents. The order was suspended at the beginning of the month and can be reinstated if significant surges or seen in any state and the cities test positivity rate has been down to half a percent for the past week chicago. Public health commissioner. Dr allison arwady. Says that's an all time low since the start of the pandemic but people who are not vaccinated still need to be extra careful please if you're going to travel get vaccinated It worries me when people are not fully vaccinated and their traveling where we are seeing surging but there is no requirement around that if you've traveled and you're not vaccinated. Please do wear mask when you're back. You've got to wear a mask all the time if you're if you're if you're unvaccinated but that would be particularly true if if you've potentially traveled and united airlines. Is betting big that travelers will return to the skies by placing one of the largest orders ever for commercial planes. The chicago based company is buying two hundred. Boeing max jets and seventy planes. From europe's airbus is to replace many of its smaller planes. And some of its oldest. It is the biggest order in united's history and the biggest by any us carriers since two thousand eleven united ceo. Scott kirby predicts that business travel will pick up after labor day and that business and international travel willfully recover but not likely until two thousand twenty three and now to phil ponce for a one on one. With chicago's mayor phil brand of chicago is in the midst of a violent summerish shootings go up and homicides match. Last year's year today total meanwhile lakeshore drive gets a new name push continues to create an elected civilian oversight board for the police department joining us to discuss all this and more is chicago mayor lori. Lightfoot mayor welcome back to chicago. We very much appreciate your being with us. It's my honor to be on this broadcast. Thank you in the city of had a rough couple of weeks. How are you holding up. Well the truth is we had a rough fifteen sixty miles We've had the challenge. The global pandemic is still with us although starting to recede into the background as a result of our huge porsche on an equitable vaccine distribution. So that's all good restarting cer hymie on starch agree on but just like in new york and la san francisco washington c atlanta all the major cities across the country continue to be plagued with. I think a pandemic spur in violence. We are making progress as you alluded to but we still have a long way to go and making sure that residents all over the city. Our safe mayor. This past weekend was particularly troubling. Seven people are dead overall. There were two mass shootings. All all calling alderman now calling. I personal city council meeting with the police superintendent to discuss. What's going on in the streets Is that a good idea. Look i think we ought to have an important role to play an oversight. But what i was saying is the police department does regular briefings. Alderman certainly would members of the public safety committee unfortunately to make sure that all autumn interaction coming and participating. Most briefings but transparency. Raw albuque- safeties absolutely critically one mary. You alluded to the fact that other cities are also plagued with violence but specifically in chicago. What is not working well. I think it's a couple of things number one. I believe that violence is a manifestation of systemic problems And it's a public health crisis when you see in way too many neighborhoods a lack of jobs lacquer investment and these are historic decades-long problems they manifest themselves on interruption of violence. The other thing that i think is unique. Obser- is surrounded by jurisdictions both sisters dates but also suburbs that have very lax gun laws. One of the reasons why. I've been calling since one thousand nine hundred ninety federal government to step up and empower and finally. We have a president. Listen is because we know that gun author licensed pending are selling to criminals and solving straw purchasing people who intended possess these firearms. We know that because of our proximity than states like indiana wisconsin michigan. That you go across the border into these states and if you've got the cash you can buy literally military grade weapons at any of any quantity bring back to chicago. We also know that. There's a consistent gun trafficking problem from southern steve. Two cities like chicago. Bene- garden is really uniquely qualified to address these issues. And i'm grateful that president biden has heard what the other mayors across the country said is the federal government has to step up. We are awash legal firearms the other piece of this. Oh we have way too many guns but we have way to new lows of accountability. This county courts have to open back up at all these gone offenders and violent people tropical we have not had a county cords open for criminal prosecution and trials since march of two thousand twenty as chief judge evans says Disputed that saying that notwithstanding some of the some of the steps that needed to be taken because of the pandemic that the process continues. But let me move on to something else and that is often simply not true. Justice delayed is justice. Denied it a criminal. Courts are open and holding people accountable. As of late april for example there were ninety nine people charged with murder who are out on bail all electronic monitoring. Those are not those people out in the community active charged with murder. They're not making are created safe. So every part of the public safety system including the has to step up on mayor last week. City council. Meeting famously or infamously ended unexpectedly. You appear to have very straight and relationships with alderman. How would you describe your relationship with the city council right now. Well look. I think that we a very strong relationships with a good working majority of the but procedurally to people can shut down the entire process and unfortunately historically that has been us very sparingly seeing being used more by people who frankly want to turn the legislative process into some kind of stage performance rather than doing the work of the people. Give it all the challenges that we're facing. Sid word people's lives literally depending upon a work that we do as there and as the city cost of we need to be focused doing the people's business and not political stocks and unfortunately there's a small handful that are not about the people's business but they care about is getting themselves in the press care about disrupting the business of government. We've just gotta continue to fight against that and get things done so. Despite the fact that wednesday's meeting was disrupted resumed on friday and we got two very important measures one guarantee of the right to return to work for hotel workers and the second answering cries of our small business people that we didn't get everything past on small business and we'll be back at it again but we took important steps to be responsive to small business people so we can't let the stunts derail us from what the residents want us to do which is to be responsive. Listen to what their concerns are at they government more responsive at more of a friend to the residents of our city cut through bureaucracy. And that's what we're going to continue to be focused on when you ran. You said you supported us civilian board overseeing the a police department critic say that now The latest proposal has no such civilian real civilian oversight over the police. Just how much civilian oversight do you want well. I was one of the first people in the city through the scout ability to ask to talk about civilian oversight. I still support. But obviously we have checks and balances. What don't support is a proposal supported by song which is a back door way to define a police. I don't support that at a time when we're seeing this surge in violence up the last that we should be talking about is defunding the police and unfortunately that's exactly what the proponents of one visual wanted to. They want to take away. The city council's accountability when i take away. The mayor's accountability and they want to give it to the hands of a small group of civilians. Who clearly if you look at who. The people are supporting as they are the defunding the police crowd. I don't support them. That doesn't make sense mayor. In recent months there have been questions raised about your your temperament and your reaction to criticism tribune. Aditorial use the term irascible. Of how much of this do you think might have to do. With the fact that you're a woman and particu specifically a black woman about ninety nine percent of it expand on that well i mean look at my predecessors. Did people say that. It's daily on t sessions with people that he didn't disagree on about rahm emanuel was polite guy who was a a uniter. No women and people of color are always held to different standards. I understand that. I've known that my whole life and the tribune or whoever can write what they want. What i'm doing is fighting for the residents of the city. I've been advocate. I'm going to continue fighting. Obviously we need to be focused on uniting people as much as we can but i was elected and ran on disrupting the status quo. And when you disrupt the status quo you are gonna make on people uncomfortable. You are going to have people criticize you. But i know where my voice is. I know the things that we need to be working on the kenai do things differently and better of course. Life is a lifelong learning experience. I fall for me and for others. But i absolutely understand that the critics were out. There are criticizing me because they don't like to see a woman assumed power and enforce ahead on an agenda that is about disrupting the status quo. And look. i also say with the tribune. Consider the source. This criticism comes just about a month or so after. I made a point a decision at my to your head of her story that i was only going to give interviews of for that two year anniversary to journalists of color and it was like the sky was falling other part of some of the folks that are vitamins of the status quo including obsolete media folks. But look around. Look at tribune editorial board. Look at the editorial board of most of the big media companies here in the city. They do not reflect our diversity and many of the people on those boards. Don't even live in chicago. So i'm sorry. If i had people by fighting for what people like to need to do which is disrupt the machine disrupt the status quo and make city government more responsive to the residents mayor. Life where we'll have to leave. It are many thanks for appearing on this program and my personal. Thanks to you for coming on over the years. So phil before we leave. You're going to be missed so made this little kind of just saying phil please. Don't go to go to my heart i. I don't know what to say. Although i will say that bears a striking striking resemblance to me mayor. Thank you so much. That's very pleasure. Oh my goodness and out of paris with local members of congress terrorists. Thank you phil. You are indeed a cut above president. Joe biden was in wisconsin today to sell the infrastructure plan and bipartisanship. Take a look. This is a generational investment generation investment to modernize our infrastructure creating millions of good paying jobs and here to talk about the infrastructure deal and more are congresswoman jan schakowsky a democrat from evanston and congressman. Raja krishnamoorthi a democrat from schaumburg. We invited every republican member of the illinois congressional delegation and some from surrounding states. None accepted our invitation. But we do thank you to for being back here and joining us i to you congresswoman schakowsky The president is touting pared-down down one trillion dollar infrastructure proposal that he negotiated with a bipartisan group of senators that does not include the childcare spending climate provisions and higher corporate taxes that he and most democrats wanted so. Would this pared down bill. Have your vote. well nancy. pelosi has sent. The speaker of the house is that i by partisan bill. Yes we want to support that. But when it comes back to the house of representatives we also have want to have a commitment to a nother piece of legislation that we vote on that we vote fifty votes in the senate and then pass it in the house reconciliation. Bill we call that that would have all those other things in and we would not expect that. We're going to get republican votes on that and as you said congresswoman speaker pelosi said quote. There ain't going to be an infrastructure bill unless we have the reconciliation. Bill that you mentioned passed by the united states. Senate congressman krishnamoorthi. Is that your position that you wouldn't vote for this infrastructure bill unless that other spending package is passed through reconciliation on a party line vote. I'd like to see that other package depending on what ends up being in the infrastructure package. But i think that the president Recently said that he would like to see the infrastructure. Package passed on a bipartisan. Vote This first piece and You know. I think that that's really important because our infrastructure needs are so dire especially in a place like illinois and we need to get that done asap as you know in washington something like this which is a multi-year package cannot endure unless it is bi partisan and so first we need to do that but i very much want to do those other pieces as well and if reconciliation is needed. And that's what we'd be asap to congresswoman schakowsky if the senate passes that other piece with childcare. Climate change tax provision on reconciliation. Does it risk some of the republicans support that has been pledged to this infrastructure. Bill no i don't think so. I think that the republicans wildfires the belts understand miss talk congressman aid dire need in the united states out there certainly wanting to go to the ribbon. Cuttings that Repair their streets and They're all the infrastructure in their communities and we need those. We need to make sure that our bridges are not going to be collapsing. Actually we had one collapsed in the washington. Dc area recently and so we need to as republicans and democrats stick together. I'm making this happen. A pedestrian bridge that recently collapsed. You referring to in washington. Dc congressman krishnamoorthi. What shovel ready projects are in your district or in the chicago area. That are ready to go. If this bill does pass well i. I don't know if you have enough time for me to go through all those lines in five seconds or less. We have a number of projects around the elgin o'hare expressway which neither reaches elgin oral hair perez. And so that is a big priority for the west and northwest suburbs. And i can't wait for this infrastructure infrastructure package. Deal to go through so we can finally get aspirational name expressway. To both of its end points sounded like a mike. Meyers on saturday night. Live for a second there a congresswoman schakowsky. I want to transition to another topic. A speaker pelosi has talked about putting together a select commission to investigate everything that happened. January six the speaker will pick eight appointees should she put republican like your colleague. Adam kinser on a panel like that that it should be bipartisan. I hope that Kevin mccarthy the republican later will agree to participate fully in doing this. You know they rejected the idea of full commission like we have for nine eleven and so instead what the speakers that we have to get to the bottom of this and so we're going to have a select committee. And i think it's a good idea for to be bipartisan. And my guess is that the speaker may even make it so. If the republican leadership decides not to participate we need all voices To take a look at what really happened that day people are still in trauma because of what happened that day and deserve to know what was really going on and congressman chris more as it stands now the house. Republican leader kevin mccarthy would be able to appoint five members. Should he choose to participate in this. Which is an open question. Do you believe that any findings from this commission would hold more gravitas with the american people if there were at least some republican voices on their like congressman. Adam kensinger or liz. Cheney look i think that liz cheney random kinsey or anybody who wants to get at the truth pairs would make a very good participants and members of this commission. The american people just want to know the truth of what happened on january six. They want to know about the truth of what happened leading up to it why. The federal response was so delayed after urgent appeals for assistance. And why today. So few people have actually been brought to justice in connection with january's six so whether it's an kensinger liz cheney or anyone else among the republicans who are interested. In finding out the truth they're going to have a number of democrats on confident. Who will want to do the same. And and that's what the american people want to and you have the former president of furthering Falsehoods that in some way. The election was stolen which did spur a lot of folks the action and congresswoman schakowsky. You had former attorney general. Bill barr come out and call those claims of stolen election. Bs In short does that help sort of move. The nation heal the nation. Be beyond some of these. Partisan divisions sort of given the lies. They're out there well. I think it's important that the former attorney general talk about the reality of what happened that day and to encourage the uninvested That's after a lot of things he did that obviously supported donald trump and the big lies that that he told. But you know we we welcome that anyway. Whenever whenever it comes out enough is trying to do something for his reputation with his grandchildren. Who knows but you know he said what said last question for you congressman who only have a few seconds left but obviously violence is again a big topic in chicago president announced cracking down Enforcing gun laws. Is there anything new here that the president or congress has doing to combat violence in cities we need legislation to be passed by congress to really deal with this issue and in the house. We've done a lot in that regard with guard universal ban on checks and so forth but unfortunately it stalled in the senate. All that being said i think the president is doing the right thing in devoting more resources to prosecuting. For instance gun shops. That sell these illegal guns and as you know a disproportionate share of violence is committed committed by these Illegal guns and so Doing whatever we can get those off. The street is a start Even as we try to search for a more permanent solution to this gun violence epidemic through legislation in washington dc. All right. we're going to have to leave it. There are thanks as always representatives jan schakowsky and raja krishnamoorthi. Thank you so much. Thank you next to look at a new monument for either be wells so please stay with us. It really is about unity where we all come together. Chicago needs to make space for everyone and still to come on the program on his last day of regular appearances on chicago. Tonight we sit down with ponce to hear his reflections on his storied career. But i when planning a new monument for the city. Why not hire artist. Whose reputation is monumental sculptor. Richard hunt was born in inglewood in one thousand nine thirty five. His works have been exported round the world from his studio right here in chicago producer. Mark vitale caught up with him. Before the unveiling of a monument in brownsville that was years in the making fifty years ago this one time electrical substation near depaul was converted into a sculptor's laboratory. Richard hunt has been grinding welding and creating here since one thousand nine hundred seventy one. When i got this place. In the beginning they had taken out all the equipment except crane. Which of course. I'm glad they didn't take it out so here. You have this big high ceiling open space. You know to develop things in move them around with a crane and get him out the back door. His process is intuitive. The way things. I'll start putting some things together. That i have an idea about those sugges- something some of his twenty-first-century work's currently on the terrace of the modern wing of the art institute richard hunt graduated from the school of the art institute in nineteen fifty seven with a degree in art education but one year. I was working on my income tax as i made more money selling sculptures than that. Did i like teaching job. And so i decided i'd quit teaching and just be a sculptor. He has called his creations. Dialogue between himself the technique and the material and is three dimensional. I mean that is say you're gonna have a painting of something on the wall. There's something that you look at. That doesn't change. But if you have a sculpture somewhere you know you look at it from here you look at it from there you look at it from another side and it reveals itself in different ways. He works with steel bronze copper brass and all kinds of scrap early in his career. He focused on found materials in the nineteen sixties. Studs terkel asked him about it as a various these spec to work sculptor us material. Have this come to be into what is material for either automobile. Bumpers richard hunt sculptures can be seen all over the city from the woodson regional library to midway airport to the loop. His newest work in chicago is light of truth. A monument in bronze to either be wells. The crusading journalist a local author. Who is i to be wells. Great granddaughter spent thirteen years to bring to life this unconventional civic memorial. We made a decision before we even contact. Richard that we wanted to have something that would not be in her likeness. We wanted it to be a monument versus a statue because ida's life in her work so multidimensional so multi layered that we felt trying to capture one pose would not necessarily capture all of who she was the. Ib wells homes. Were right here on this land. From nineteen forty one to two thousand two attribute needed to be given to ida on the land where the homes once stood which is also really close to the house that she physically lived in and in brownsville. This this neighborhood has strong rich history. You know i'm reminded of the past and and then looking toward the future of this community in the studio he's run for half a century eighty five year old. Richard hunt is back to the grind. It's interesting city scape as changed. And of course i. I'm happy that i've had a an opportunity to put a piece here. A piece there. It's been an important thing me on many levels for chicago tonight. This is martha tally. The monument to either be wells is called light of truth and be dedicated at ten. Am tomorrow at thirty. Seventh and langley boulevard in brownsville richard. Hunt's work in the modern wing is up until september twentieth and make sure to watch our chicago stories documentary on i two be wells and explore the companion website at www dot com slash item e wells and paris. Back to you thanks. Brandis twenty nine years ago seasoned reporter walked into w w studios and the rest is history tonight. Phil ponce marks. His final regular appearance with the program that he has led for much of the last three decades in that time the stories of changed the political figures have changed and journalism itself has changed but ponce in chicago tonight have been constant in carrying forward the intelligent public affairs news and analysis first conceived by the late great john. Calloway those are among the questions that we'll explore this evening right after this background. Report from a man. We're pleased and proud to welcome as our new correspondent phil ponce with those words. Nearly thirty years ago chicago tonight founder. John calloway introduced the man. Who would eventually become the face of news and public affairs at w. w. the chicago area has some of the most influential representatives in congress and not surprisingly. They want to keep their jobs in that. Ponce himself as the city's premier television moderator and interviewer now discussion of this wisconsin plan led by the news hours new national correspondent phil ponce but not before his work caught the attention of the pbs news. Hour nineteen ninety-seven when legendary anchor jim. Lara hired ponce as a correspondent in host. Jim is wisconsin model for the rest of the nation. When john calloway retired in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine there was little doubt who he would pass. The torch to john was stepping away. The person he wanted to step into that place was filled. And i don't think there is a higher compliment than that. Frankly phil ponce was born in mcallen. Texas and raised in east chicago indiana. The son of immigrants steel workers and one of nine kids at bishop noll institute in hammond ponce gravitated toward the arts landing starring roles in productions of bye. Bye birdie and the music man. He graduated with an english degree at indiana university. He's pictured here with his now of fifty years and ponce then got a law degree from the university of michigan and embarked on a six year career. As an attorney he always says he has nothing no problem with being an attorney but it just wasn't for him but he wanted to find a career that involve a level of showmanship living in indianapolis at the time ponce found a roundabout way to enter the television news business. He had a friend make a sort of a fake resume. Tape wrote a little script. Went to a production house performed it on camera submitted two. Wr tv and they said you're hired once they became a weekend reporter at w. rtd in indianapolis. Why does so many people hate cats. Right of the arouse strong feelings. I think it goes back to mythology and not long after wound up in chicago at channel. Two he says what's especially significant about the day happened earlier. I know he loved his days as a street reporter for channel two and he wouldn't take those years back but it set him up to land at his true channel. Eleven and that's where he really. I think connected with chicago over the weekend. Chicago was the epicenter and a movement which appears to be growing as chicago tonight. Host and moderator ponce built on calloway's template of fair-minded yet probing interviews steering the debate on the issues of the day. So the first thing is he does his homework. He does more homework. Anyone can come up with a list of questions. It's about the listening. That's what makes a good interview. And that's the hardest thing to do is to listen aggressively during an interview on. Live television every once in a while those interviews could turn contentious one of the interviews that is seared into my memory is when he pounded on the table on the set of chicago. Tonight he goes. Stop it to him. I'm going to insist on civility in this discussion. Please the four view for joey proceed. Shall we thank you a crucial mission. Four ponce and chicago tonight. Moderating candidate forums during election seasoning because that is an absolute shameful thing to say not didn't lift a finger to investigate the biggest scandal from the beginning. Every united states confessed. Gentlemen leister's tell you. I'm not gonna let you get away with that right. I think it's failed leadership ready. We're going to work rod jam. When i had. When i was sick i went to work. Why don't you go to work. Why can't build mr ryan. Mr bourgoin children dying and i'm not going to let him get away with that or the record. The patty not never not for you and that for him. The us attorney was on our program sitting right there and he said mr begovic. That what mr ryan did in not pursuing investigation was completely the right thing to do just for the record. What makes you. Different from the congressman and from senator trotter. Well one of the things that we talked about throughout this campaign is that. I don't think there are a lot of ideological differences. I think all three of us are progressive urban democrats. It was on chicago tonight. That a young community organizer turn south side state. Senator began to establish his bona fides as a serious political figure in the bedroom. Their people who've key people who've not giving you an endorsement. Bobby rush john stranger carlos collins your reaction look. The african. american community isn't monolithic anymore. Than the white community or latino community or the asian communities is monolithic state. Senator became a us. Senator surrounded by nonstop. Buzz about seeking even higher office speaking of the presidency. I'm looking at a clip from something. Called sportsbook dot com. I don't know if you heard about that. But they list your odds of being the next president as thirty two one which puts you ahead of florida governor jeb bush. His odds are listed thirty. Five to one. But you're behind. Hillary clinton at six o'clock good considering i've ruled it out another illinois political figure this one awash with rumors of corruption and poor fiscal management. Found himself the unfortunate recipient of tough and direct questioning for the record. Name one politically risky thing. You've done so far. Has governor one politically risky thing down. So far governor earlier in the year. You talked about the importance of testicular really. Shouldn't you use it to do something once and for all to fix the funding setup illinois. Well i think we're making progress. This year's budget what shortchanges the employee pension fund by more than a billion dollars. How big a mess are you leaving. That other people are going to have to clean up We are. I think in a position where our fiscal house in order again. We've been able to do this in a way that no one thought we could possibly even have a chance for now but how about how about your children my children. What are they gonna face in terms of where this future debt is where this future debt is gonna put them well. Let's talk about this issue of the passion payments without bluster bravado. Ponce could corner political figures. Who weren't answering to his satisfaction by calmly following up with laser like precision. Ponce refused to let the then. Democratic candidate for governor jay pritzker off the hook after a series of confusing answers about his personal fortune because the tribune says at least eleven companies connected with you or family members have been set up within the past. Ten years is that right not set up by me. No not at all not set up by you. Do you have any connection with them. In terms of financial interests financial interests connected with those eleven companies at least eleven companies. The tribune says had been set up in the past ten years now. Those trusts are dedicated to charitable and then and the company's underlying the trustees and the trust created those companies in order to make investments. That's what trust do as ponce legacy is far from limited to serious political coverage. He could also have some fun. John cleese your very first tonight. Thank you very much thank you. That was fun. Mapping and you smile. Can i use that as a theme show for chicago tonight. It's typically made out of tissue paper and if that wasn't enough chicago tonight documented ponce very hobbies that could sometimes turn into obsessions stained. Glass bike riding trumpets. Pelvic bead making the gardening is the one skill that trump's above all the others gardening. He wants to work in his yard and maniac all day long proudest legacy the fact that a viewer conflict through chicago's tv channels and stand a good chance of landing on different ponce off in two thousand fourteen. The ponce takeover of chicago extended to america's national pastime when the three points amen collaborated to sing the national anthem on opening day for their beloved white sox. The three of us singing in unison their unforgettable. That was probably most nervous. I've ever been to sing the end of this month. I will be making my last regular appearance on chicago tonight. Now as ponce transitions into a new role taking on special assignments for chicago tonight. He passes the torch to a new generation much like john. Calloway did with him. Meanwhile fillon and will devote more time to successive generations of ponce as their three kids and five grandchildren and quite a lot to choose from there. I highlight my head is spinning from that. But you did a beautiful job of kind of touching on the ark of a career. Well phil. what's what's your initial reaction reliving. Some of these moments and some of the moments that we've watched over the last week. I would say that i'm impressed by what you and i do. In terms of the range stories that we cover and that's one of the that's where the fun things about this job. You know we probably shouldn't tell people that. This is a fun job to have but to interview. Prominent people like barack obama. Who's coming up interviewing people in the arts. Like john cleese from from from from britain and his wacky comedy and then artists that you and i have admired the range of people that we cover is just a real treat to us and our job is to make it interesting for viewers. It's a privilege to get to do that. And it's fun to go from a hard political segment to elmo to to john cleese or to a comedian or to a movie star phil. You've been in this business for about forty years thirty years. Almost at public. Television was this to grand master plan. Conceiving your life career. Paris bullied me. There was no. There was no master plan. There was a series of of happy accidents. Sometimes an opportunity comes to you that you were not expecting in any way and it works out sometimes. It doesn't happily. The time that i've spent here has been wonderful inspiring working with amazing colleagues like you. I want to hear more about that. Fake audition tape that your sons were talking about in indianapolis. It wasn't really a fake audition tape. It was it was staged in the sense that i had no previous television experience. So what i did. Is i memorized. I wrote and memorize and newscasts. I didn't have a teleprompter to read off. And i wouldn't into a production house. And they they did a video tape of me. I didn't take. And i thought well i'm not going to be any better than that. And so. I did shop to the different stations in town and wwl tv which was Abc affiliates at the time. They hired me as a weekend reporter. And that's where everything started. It's an amazing way to break into the business. And of course he spent many years at wbz b. m. channel to you. Were out of the business for a while before you got the call to come here from john. Calloway how did that come about south. I was working for. I was working for for a communications company. Ameritech it was called at the time. And i was incorporated me communications and i was missing television news and so i called john calloway up who i knew from from fellowship program at the university of chicago and coincidentally they had an opening date identified. Somebody else she wanted taking the job and they hired me. And i'm going to tell you the day that i was hired to your channel two. I literally walk into the parking lot. Jumped up click my heels. I was so happy. I land of oz vase. I don't want to say. I've clicked my heels everytime i've left the station but i'm telling you working here has been just an honor and a privilege and yes. It's been fun. Well let's take a look at one of the Hard probing interviews that we miss there in two thousand and four during senatorial debate. Us then candidate blair hall about some cd allegations against him. Let's take a listen mr hall. Your wife has accused you of striking her threatening to kill her and calling her a vial name for the record. Are those charges. True or false. I guess is a captivated this entire campaign for the last ten days. So i think it's important. We talk about this as i wrote about. You have the second gear that you can go into if you send your not being dealt with on the level by newsmaker that you're interviewing where you really home in you. You really double down without ever changing. Your tone always measured an even keel. Can you just tell me about your philosophy of interviewing in moments like that. I think you could always ask the toughest possible question. Midst matter of tone and usually takes pressure off the interviewer if you maintain consistency and not become prosecutorial. Say and it's easiest if you just state the facts clearly and ask them to respond even if the facts are difficult and that that has come up a number of times and i found that a non prosecutorial calm tone while asking a tough question. I've worked for me any interviews over the years that were particularly difficult or or particularly made you sweat You know what the interviews that make me. Sweat are the interviews of times. I've had an interview comedians for me. Comedians are so hard. Know this about you because they are like picks over. You never know where we're going to. Complete improvisations complete improvisation. And it's not just a matter of yes and it's it's a matter of sort of holding onto the holding onto the saddle and hope the horse doesn't doesn't doesn't knock you off any particular comedian that comes to mind. I would say pretty much. Any comedian makes me nervous. Jeff garland is better than is easier to handle than many but even with him. You just never knew he was going to go. And you just have to be totally in the moment and you can't prepare for comedians in the same way that you can compare prepare for you to had a good patois between you when he was on you gave them a tie because he complimented your tie. What about president obama. You saw him there when he was just a state. Senator and then as senator. When you first saw obama he came onto this program earlier early in his career. Did you look at them. And say presidential material. I would say that. I know that the term presidential material came to mind but i certainly thought this person. This is very bright person he's poised. He's got this charisma and no i didn't. I didn't immediately think he's going to be in the white house one day but after he was on the show ten or fifteen times he was under show a total of twenty times or so before he became president. I thought yeah this. This guy's going somewhere and it could be the why. And what's it like watching that kind of ascension from your perch. Well it's it's an incremental growth of but a solid growth. You could see the if you watch his appearances on chicago tonight. You can see the evolution of someone who continues to who continues to grow in maturity poise although appetite story after i monitor eight moderated a debate between barack obama and alan keyes. I pose a question of gay marriage to both of them and bronco mama. I thought didn't handle it all that. Well he kind of waffled in after the debate was over. I was talking to somebody and i heard somebody one of his supporters talked to say to barack obama. You were not ready for film. You were not ready for. And that's one of the highest compliment. I've ever received and as i understand. He asked you to get lunch once many many years ago in that lunch date still hasn't happened. So maybe it's time to call. He exchange traded messages phone messages. And finally i thought oh. This is too much trouble. i'm not gonna call him back this guy you know you've witnessed so many things happen in chicago in the nation in the world nine eleven. What was it like. And what do you remember about the show that you did after nine eleven. That was one of the toughest shows we've ever done. I think all of us were we scrambled. I think at the time it was a half hour show but we expanded to an hour. We try to react to it in a way. That was an attempt to get our heads around what had happened. But i will tell you that all of us were traumatized and it was one of the tougher shows we've ever done because all of us are feelings were were very very raw and i would say that i would say that those of us put that together and met and many americans suffered from type of ptsd after that so yeah it was tough. I'm looking at some of these. Some of these clips of people. I've interviewed and i just want to thank all the guests who have graced us with their presence in difficult times like nine eleven or are even lighter times when we have when we have entertainers on if this show did not have a cadre of guests. We could not do what we do. And people have been tremendously generous in sharing their expertise with us and i think we certainly are appreciative of their time. Especially when they had to come up to the studio here and that has been sort of off for the last fifteen months with these zoom interviews with because of the pandemic. Hopefully those come back you mentioned some of the entertainers and celebrities reader marino. Judy collins. Anyone particularly fluster you because you were just so in awe. Well i had to say it. I went into fan boy mode. But i have. I remember some advice that jim lara gave me. When i went to the news hour. He said interview everybody the same whether you're interviewing jesus. Buddha muhammad not. I mean think about it if you were interviewing any one of those figures. She would be an all but the point that he was making his attempt to every interview. Everybody and in a similar way in the sense that you prepare you. Listen and you react. You don't want to get to fan. Boyish fan girlish otherwise you you. It makes the audience uncomfortable. But i would say heck yes when i think every every man. My age probably had a crush on judy collins across from judy collins. I my heart skip to beat same with rita moreno with geraldine. Chaplin is remember seeing her doctor zhivago when she shows up in this amazing pink fitted. The train station is famous. I don't know if you're right there. It is took my breath away. When i saw that and to meet her years later. Know just kinda dazzled. I'm human quickly fill up. I want to bring in brandish friedman here. But you've watched your sons. Dan and anthony follow in your footsteps. What has it been like to that. I'll tell you it has been a source of amazement to me. I had no idea it wasn't it was not park. It was not part of of a grand plan at all. i remember. My son told me one story where he showed up at the scene of scene of a crime or something and it was in beverly and he got out of his got his minivan. This is dan and he heard a neighbor. Say oh look upon say as we're fungible and maybe we are but it is. It is gratifying. Mostly because i feel that they have found something that they love same with my daughter. Maria who's an outstanding photographer parents to have children who are finding their way in the world and making living enjoying what they do. That is so so sad. As well. Phil i feel like a television son of years. I walked in here sixteen years ago as an intern and remember the supervisor. Walking me down the hall the hall hallway grows longer longer and your office is looming large. I walk in and there. You are with a smile and you couldn't have been friendlier and more gracious and you've been like that for sixteen years and it's been a pleasure to learn from you and produce for you and then become a close colleague of yours and it's it's been an honor for me and i wouldn't be here without you and i know that brandis friedman mice team colleague has similar sentiments. That she wants to express to you. Yeah thank you. Paris and you know to that end when i first got hired here eight and almost a half years ago. I think i've lost count. Because it's been that great. But when i was first hired here phil you told me you made a prediction that this would be the best television job i had ever had and so far. You've still been right. That something that i remembered and i think you know part of the reason that that has held true is because of the culture of the news room. The journalism that we practice here. And you've obviously been extremely influential in. Fostering all of that a couple of things that not. Everybody knows about philipon say. I wore my commemorative phil ponce necklace today. Because everybody knows everybody that works here knows is that ponzi is a very generous person In addition to being very creative and talented and we know that that's a parent by everyone in his family. I always hope fill that. If you in an adopted me he'd be. I would be creative and talented to. I don't think it's too late especially since leaving this way. We'll get more quality time. The other thing is you're also very funny. I think it's important for people to know that in very generous you gave me a necklace for crying out loud but today gave some of us chocolate bars just for fun. I think a number of us have had a meal on you at your home over the toddler. Wanna leave you with a bad taste in your mouth which means you owe me a meal. No i'm kidding. But you know paris and i will do our best to try and continue to make you proud. I'll leave you with a dad joke. It takes two of us to fill your shoes. You're welcome on sunny days in the garden with the grand kids. Thank you brandis. Peres have to say that One of the joys of this job is working with you. I sometimes think of you as a son. And i'd be proud to have brandis as a daughter and i'm so grateful for the colleagues i've had i've been so grateful for the support that management has given the show and me and i already mentioned that without the guests. We'd be nothing and without you you viewers. We would be nothing and it's been the honor of my lifetime to work here. It's been the honor of my lifetime to occasionally have people come up and tell me how much they how much they enjoy the show and the work we do and i am going to miss you very much happily come back on occasionally to do special assignments. But i'm gonna miss you gonna miss this work but a in in the phrase going going on between going in gone maybe closer to god that i leave for now as a very happy and grateful person and phil i mean. It's been a remarkable career and as you said it's not over because you will be here and we will. We will be thrilled to welcome you for special assignments in for guest hosting and for for anything else that you'd like to come in here and do because this place is always your home and as i said. There's a mount rushmore chicago tonight. John calloway phil ponce or the two faces on there right now. I think the other person. Carol carol paris i love you. I love you to fill and we're back to wrap things up but first we take a look at the weather and that is our show for this tuesday night. don't forget to stay connected with us by signing up for our daily briefing and you can get chicago. Tonight streamed on facebook youtube and our websites. Wtt w dot com slash news and you can also get the show via podcast and the pbs video app. And please join us tomorrow night. Live at seven. Chicago's minimum wage. Rises to fifteen dollars on july. First are spotlight. Politics team will talk about that and much more and exploring the complicated legal political history that helped shape. Chicago's lakefront now for all of us here at chicago. Tonight i'm brandis. Friedman peres shots. Thank you so much for watching. Stay healthy and safe. We love phil say goodnight Those captioning is made possible by robert a clifford and clifford law offices a personal injury law firm serving chicago for thirty seven years.

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Rep. Sean Casten

"Hi this is petty and today you're listening to my friend representative sean casten onto broad talking politics if you like podcast with my mother. Kick out unsung history. Which shows the story of people in events in american history. You might not know a lot about get your vaccine. Hello everyone. I am kelly. This is too broad stocking politics. I am on with my co hosts sofi. Hi sophie kelly. You've got the color coordinated hair that matches our logo so and we are joined by returning gusts representative sean casten of the illinois six district high-representative gaston to see you and and sophie. Next do this. Let me know. And we'll coordinate together amazing so last time you were on the podcast. My son teddy was interviewing you and that was right before covert hits. Those last time. I did any interview. I think you're the last live interview we did. Actually oh well. That's a not sure whether that's good or bad but it's nice to be back. Yeah so we are talking to you today about hot firkh summer which is excellent. We are super excited about and it's working. I think because. I'll tell you for one. I'm a pretty wonky. Pipe kester on a pretty wonky podcast. Who spends a lot of time looking at congress and things like that. And i had never spent any time thinking about work before now and now i do so. I think this is working. I i would love to tell you that this was all carefully planned out but you know if if i knew this would work. I would have done it a long time ago. You drop a couple fergie lyrics in a sixty second floor speech and all of a sudden. You're the top trending thing on people magazine. But more importantly like people in like wait. What is the federal energy regulatory commission. Why does it matter and the stuff does matter and if you if you care about climate if you wanna make sure that we get. The ship turned around as quick as possible after the the art of the is the place to be all right. First question is just what is the federal energy regulatory commission so they are essentially exactly what you would think they are. The are the agency that regulates our energy sector the. They are a down in the weeds organization. They are independent agency. They are required by law to have five commissioners. No more than three can be from any appointed by anyone party They were substantially. Held back under obama. Because mitch mcconnell slowed the release of a lot of the ability to confirm a lot of his nominees but they are the people who decide how will power rates be structured in our country. How will we make sure you know. How much are we going to allow for capital recovery. What sector is going to pay. Where are we going. to build. transmission wires guests pipelines. If you object to that. What's the process for objection. How are we gonna make those decisions. That's these are really big media issues and if you want a clean power sector you want a reliable power sector You those decisions are going to come down to this really important body that As i said in my my speech last week hopefully a few more of your now taking attention too but for a long time people. Weren't you know it was the most important climate agency. I think than we've never heard of so my right now. Why sort of focus on now will candidly. A big part of the reason is because You'll chatterjee who was the chairman who was formerly from stafford to mcconnell and actually get along well with mr chatterjee and i think is in the right place. His term ended in june The that means that there are now four people on i. Two appointed by republicans to appoint by democrats in. We are not going to get any progress on anything that matters until there's a new appointment the the president's got three people who he's considering nominating but he's been nominated yet and until that nominee is named they can't be confirmed by the senate until they're confirmed by the senate they can't start the hearings until they hearings that can't make the rulings until they make the rulings people are not willing to change what they're building in the power sector so it's really really important to get that person and and that's ultimately as the big driver for why we wanted to bring some attention to the agency right now so you're introducing a series of bills related to farc. Can you talk about what the intention is behind those way you hope to accomplish. What what can congress do to to make things really work. Well sure so. The the first one Was done with senator heinrich and i should give him credit this bill that he he's been pushing for a long time which really relates to how we make sure that we build build the transmission wires but connected different parts of our system right in and you can see that tangibly you know when when texas had all those blackouts recently. Oklahoma didn't right why. Why didn't they had the same weather. El paso didn't which is in texas and the reason was because we we have a network of different grids in the country and we actually don't do a very good job of building the wires that connect those grits together. And there's a lot of complicated reasons for that which i can go into if you want but forecast the authority to fix some of that. So the first one is is dealing with inter-regional transmission issues. The second bill. The energy price act is a reintroduction of a bill that we crafted last term which which really addresses the fact that clean energy and cheap energy or synonymous If you put a solar panel on your roof. I can guarantee you will never go to bed at night and said better check. What the price of powers tomorrow to see whether it makes sense to lend my solar panel right. Because it's because it's always going to be free ditto if you put more efficiency in your home. If you have a geothermal plant wind turbine et cetera. et cetera. the virk has an obligation to keep energy costs low. They also have an obligation to keep energy prices reliable and we're starting to hit this tension. That is we keep building cheap energy in other words as we keep building clean energy. It's getting harder and harder to justify the investment in new energy sources. That's a great problem to have. But it's totally counterintuitive because we've been talking for years about how clean energy is expensive which is just a dumb line period. Full stop street. That creates a problem. Because what will i do. If there is not an incentive to build more energy sources. And so what we've done. The energy price act is basically pointed out that because of some supreme court decisions most recently the endangerment finding For i would submit and with this bill will have congressional support for it that they have an affirmative obligation to preferentially. Make sure that clean energy bill. So as they're figuring how to go through let's bring that forward which is essentially saying if you squint your eyes. We could create a carbon price in the electric sector. Just through for we don't have to wait for congressional action so so that's a big piece of that one and then the third one was the right time. We're hearings act which essentially recognizes that. There are a lot of of people who are affected by erc roles. There are the the people who build the power plants. They're the people who depend on the energy from those assets and they're the people on whose land you're going to run the transmission wire across or might be subject to eminent domain and the right to timely hearings is basically just trying to make sure that your your ability to have your voice heard is not a function of of how much money you have going into the process if you will And you know to make sure that you know if you have a dispute you can have a time were hearing and not essentially be bogged down in time timer. That you don't have so. Let's he wants a sort of everybody. How do you want everybody to be thinking about promoting these as you call them. Wonky wonky bills about this wonky agency and obviously this sort of hot for summer as a way to get at that. You know how. what's your advice for. You know how we talk to our friends about this. I we talked to our family about this. How we get people really interested in this idea. will for starter would not lead with the right to timely hearings. A little bit of you know. I think the most important thing is to recognize that the number one that clean energy is cheap. Energy and number two the making a transition to a clean energy economy is hard. But it's hard for exactly the opposite of the reason. You think it's hard. We've framed as for years as a. How are we going to equitably allocate the pain the economic pain of that transition in reality the challenge is how do you equal equitably allocate the gain of that transition which is still hard and. That's what i can do. I mean take what i was just saying. We built all this clean energy. In the price of power falls because the way we've structured our markets one hundred percent of that benefit accrues to energy consumers. How do we make sure that energy producers still have an incentive to to build the assets that that we're going to need to keep that power which is essentially saying. How do we take this pie. Which per george. W bush the pies higher. That'll take that dollar by and make sure that that everybody gets a slice. And and that's a rate structure question that we can go through. How do we go through. Even in our in our domestic politics building clean energy is going to be hugely positive for illinois. Where i live. We got a lot of wind. We've got a lot of a lot of industries that that benefit when energy costs are cheaper. It's going to be real good in indeed. it has been good. it's been a boon to the region. It's not going to be good for west virginia right. West virginia depends on on fossil energy extraction and in. It's going to be hard for them. We'll give it as we know. We are creating more gain than pain. How do we make sure that. Some of that gain is shared with west virginians because also americans right and and we're going to have to divide. But how do we think about how to do that. Those are really good problems to have right but we need to approach this with a certain degree of humanity and making sure we're looking out for everybody and and by the way if you wanna make this really complicated really really complicated. But let's sail into the hard stuff. I would submit to you that the same question between illinois in west. Virginia you could say is is attention between the united states and iran right and therein. You have international challenge with this. You know why is russia so hostile to a transition to clean energy because russia's economy depends on fossil energy extraction. But that's a hard geopolitical problem. But i think if we can acknowledge that we're all humans we're in this together in knowledge that this is a win win. We just have to make sure that we that the games were shared equitably than we get through this so hartford. Summer is working for me conflict. Kelly i had not on kind of wonky but i had not heard of before. Do you find that it's working or your fellow. Representatives in congress racing Bills oh it is. It's awesome em. Frankly so darn funny. I've had i've had members like jan schakowsky has a bill. That's been out there for a while. But she's led to create an office of public participation at first and she's just been delighted because she's been doing the same thing about people talking about this and all of a sudden like hashtag for for delicious kinda blows up on your rights. So that's been great. I've had then some other members who i won't name to approach me in the cloakroom last week and said they said what the heck is delicious because it seems to be blowing up on everybody leadership this thing and i don't understand what it is so it gives an opportunity to educate some of my colleagues about that as well right and and then i think my favorite conversation was i was recently getting on an elevator and this woman got on instead of everyone in our office is loving hot for summer. That's great where you work. And she said the white house but more importantly what are your teenage daughters. Think that's the you know there. Are i think in general. They see their role appropriately as keeping my ego in check and so the they're usually the first one to say You know the head thinks he got some re tweets in who that's appropriate to say that you know that said they were. They were pretty psyched. That it was the daily shows moment azan last night it starting to touch somebody. Channels that resonate with them. Which like you know as a family perspective. That's cool but you know if i just sort of generalized that my daughters are you know fourteen in sixteen year olds. Who are the ones who are who are going to bear the costs if we don't get this right and the the channels that they listened to now talking about this that's awesome right a believe the children are our future so i one thing i think i you know so fiesta earlier. Why why now and you know the. There's lots of answers to that. But i you know part of the answer of course is as you said in one of your floor speeches like this is it. This is the last moment like the best time to take care of. This would have been decades ago but we didn't and so now we have to. So that's the other piece of this. I think that i want to to help. People understand you know as i'm talking to two friends and family as i'm talking to my kids about what to do about. This is is the true urgency in its finally a little bit easier for people to see because we see these terrible weather events that are happening. We see the grid shut down in texas. But you know how. How urgent is it. And how do we get that urgency across so this is. I gotta be careful how i respond because the what's hard about that question is that if it's very easy to lose hope and i don't want i don't want to cause people to lose because we we have the potential to turn the ship around but what is scientifically necessary is so far beyond what anybody thinks politically possible right now and we've got to get people to understand that we knew you know i've said this before. Thank you for saying that the the best actress thirty years ago in you know jim hansen testified before the senate what was at eighty seven. I think basically said you know at one and a half degrees of warming. We're going to be in a bad way and we're on a trajectory to get there. We're now one degree of the way there. So we are two thirds of the way to that future and his that science has been politicized and demonized and misrepresented and as a result we haven't we haven't meaningfully acted and so now here. We are two thirds of the way to that point. That we warned is going to be irreversible. And we've now got large chunks of america saying i don't like the fact that that my entire communities on fire. I don't like the fact that. If i want to continue to live in miami beach i'm going to have to figure out how to fund a huge seawall which is going to be too short fifty years from now the we've got people who are you know saying daytime flooding. We've got the lake. Michigan has had you know. It's all time high water mark and its all time. Low water mark within twelve months of each other. So people are now seeing tangible. This is no longer just just the pointy headed nerds talking. People seeing tangible evidence in the problem which is so scary. Is that those changes in many cases are irreversible it takes we will in my lifetime. You know melt all the glaciers in glacier national park it'll take thousands of years to rebuild them right even if we went backwards today the last time. Co two levels where this high in the atmosphere sea levels were fifty feet higher. The scientific models are very clear. And they've done a very good job of predicting where the temperatures can go and we know that they're still is the same amount of water on the globe as there was then so we know that we're going to have fifty feet higher sea levels. The models are a little harder to predict timing. But there's a broad consensus that by twenty fifty. We can count on at least two feet more sea level rise even if we went to zero tomorrow at two feet of sea level rise. Miami beach is gone. Most of florida's gone Good chunks of washington. Dc are gone. Lower manhattan has gone. These these are these are so in. This is within our lifetime right. It is coming. So what are we gonna do right on. Can we do things on mitigation you know. Can we build seawalls. Can we provide some resources to help. People move to higher ground in managed way rather than waiting for them to be angry. Because if you wanna know what it looks like if people get angry look at syria right. You saw huge desertification of northern africa amounts of people get angry because they couldn't feed themselves. They're the consequences are frightening now. I said i don't wanna wall too much in the losing hope that that is that is the reality we've gotten into fifty percent of all the carbon dioxide we have ever admitted as a species of first caveman built the fire a million years ago. Fifty percent of all the co two government. It has been since nineteen ninety-one right back to the future was five years out of the movie theaters. These numbers are like. You can't really contemplate how quick that's going now. The optimistic side is that is to come back to what i said before. If we want to turn the ship around we can do it. Generate a ton of money right. There is no good reason not to act it is in our economic self interest to act. It is in our environmental self interest. Act is an immoral self interest at act so so let's get off the ball and start doing what's necessary. Not just patting ourselves on the back because we we got some words of winston churchill. Some baffling half-measure across the line. This is a related question. How do we get people to buy into taking action. Now when they won't see sort of some of the positive changes in their lifetime maybe even how do we. Because we're really good as a country at reacting to things like you know a pandemic happening. Now we're not so good at say investing in a in in preparation for that kind of thing in the future. So what how do we how we message this. How do we get people to buy into making these investments. Now we're also I'm a firm believer that you should talk to people in the language that they understand the because you can have a huge difference in your life right now. We just to pick the language we use. you know. Let's say that you love having money in your pocket in you. Love having a you know. A muscle car considered buying an electric vehicles. Pretty awesome the accelerations. awesome in. and you're going to have more money in your pocket because you don't have to be nearly as much fuel right and that's direct tangible benefits. You can have right now if you if you like having you know more money. Unless less drafty home you know but in some more efficient windows you can do all those things. Maybe maybe national securities your big issue. Well we got. We got a crisis on our border because honduras got hit with two hurricanes and in short order and caused a huge refugee caravan. It's not the only reason we've got a crisis on our southern border but it's a big part of it right so if national security issue. Let's talk about how we address this from national security perspective. Maybe health is your big issue. We got tropical diseases that are moving into subtropical regions as it gets warmer warmer. Let's make our health system that right we can do. All those things can have direct intimate with an again it. It comes from the fact that we've talked about this rolling for thirty years and said that there's a trade off. There is no trade off the only off is it is a massive wealth transfer from energy producers to energy consumers. Last time i checked every single american consumed energy. He tiny minority of them produce energy. Take take that take that trade. Every time i had a guest here. Who wants to say teddy oreo again. Nice to see you too. Are you excited to be getting back to school soon. Hopefully now he's honest area there you. How's your summer ben. But at that way yeah have you been able to get outside both friends a little bit outside. Yes johnette ladder. that's good. Hey been outside. Beats a plan playing video games online. That's not what i think my best here. Anything any questions you got that. He had a question about the oh right. I don't know how to phrase this. So i tell you saw a nagazine article about a flying car and he was wondering if you knew anything about the future flying cars. I didn't want i. I don't know much about the future of flying cars other than that. The if we were to invent flying cars well. I would love to have flying cars if only i owned a flying car. Because they'd be like super-efficient a question whether i want everybody having a flying car because they might be flying over my yard. You know interrupting picnics. Somehow let's gonna work But i don't think we're a long way from heaven flying cars well in the magazine article. It was called the air car and it could transform from a working airplane to a working car in two minutes. Fifteen seconds whoa. Whoa tied cost a billion dollars though right. This is probably not very fuel efficient. Also that'd be my guess that too all right. thanks study. today's i. I know you're today's barack obama's birthday. Send him a note. They had a president obama because last time we talked to know. He said that he wanted to wanted interview obama next. I don't know if that ever came through. But the chance to rock obama. If you're listening wants to interview you. Also interview oprah oprah if you're listening unsure she is. I'm sure she's so. I've one unrelated to climate change question for you and that is how can we get more people in this country to accept that getting vaccinated is a important right now and and can be the way out of what is clearly a worsening delta delta plus slammed a spike that is going to once again disrupt our lives. It's it's so tragic isn't it. I mean the the you know the fact that we the best predictor of. What's going whether or not you're going to be exposed. Adult at this point is increasingly. You know the local politics in your region right the. I don't know if you saw harvard. School of public health does this analysis of the vaccination rates by congressional district in the the top. Thirty congressional districts are all earl democratic in the bottom thirty old republican and he that's not because republicans are dahmer not science affirming but they basically taken a political decision to to to oppose science right. Now you've got people dying florida florida's overwhelming their hospitals altered on the libs. You know. I don't know. I mean you know in the you know someone representing a kind of purply district a certainly do whatever i can to try to let people know the importance of getting vaccinated that i got vaccinated that it safe kids are vaccinated but i still walk around and i see people with these. You know who i know are not getting vaccinated with signs saying you know unmasked the kids you know which is basically saying it might not vaccinated but but i. I would like our kids to be trans agents. Transmitting this disease. And it's deadly right and you know so the ultimate answer is we. We really really need republican leaders. Who are respected by. The republican electorate to to decide that they are capable of leadership. Right and i. And i say that because i've had i've had conversations on my friends across the aisle who said well i can't really lean in on this because you know it at a lose the base right and this is where the bases and my come into the end. Is you know when you ran for this office into san capable of leading people or is that just a decision. You've come to later on right. Stand up and lead. No one's no one's gonna fault you for saying i want you to live right or that. The enlightenment was a step forward in human progress. And i don't mean to make it political. But i think the challenge is that as long as we pretend it's not political were not addressing. What at this point is the primary risk factor for transmission the way that we make delta go away as he gets vaccinated career in the meantime if you're not vaccinated where mask social distance because you can also make delta. Go away that way. The way that we make sure that delta continues to spread and continues to evolve into you know even more dangerous you know. Sub-species is to not get vaccinated not wear a mask and go around and just become you know a a human petri dish. I can't imagine there's anyone listening or watching. That isn't vaccinated but if for some reason you're not at don't do it for us do it for teddy. 'cause teddy is too young to be vaccinated and it's terrifying to me teddy. End arthur's sofi son. They're all too young so interesting. You know encourage ability. Go read the sermon on the mount right. You know we look out for the least of us right the listener the make the. Maybe you can't make good reasons. You can't get vaccinated Maybe you're you know you're an organ. Transplant recipients in the vaccine. Just doesn't work very well on. You're on immunosuppressants. If that's the case where mask right. Keep yourself healthy and make sure you're not spreading it to others and you won't have to do it forever any more than you had to do it forever for you know polio and smallpox mumps indebtness. But we just have to get up to that herd immunity And yet it would for doing for teddy. Do it for you know everybody. Who's got kids who you know. Can't yet get the vaccine. And for folks who are medically knock miljkovic vaccine in. I'd like to believe that could just convince you to do it for yourself But if that's not sufficient do it for the greater good all right. Well we've got to let you go because you have another meeting but thank you so much for joining us again and how can people Less time get involved in hot for summer you know. What do you want them to tweet. you know. What should we be doing now. Or where would say no follow us on all of the social media channels rep and is the official one and we're on twitter and instagram and other platforms. That i don't understand we are always open for For new ideas of how we can continue to amplify this. And so if you've got somebody said the other day that they love to see a brianna reference for for for this is but you know. We're open to suggestions. And you know. In in fergie megan if you're listening let's collaborate. I got some original material offer. Maybe you can work on that. All right excellent will put links to all your social media on our website so people can find that and follow along and re tweet to nelson. Thank you great. see you dead. 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Patriot to Prisoner: Aaron Hernandez Part 2

True Crime: By The Book

31:39 min | 1 year ago

Patriot to Prisoner: Aaron Hernandez Part 2

"Please be aware that true crime by the book may discuss topics show opinions and use language. That could be disturbing or offensive. The some listeners listeners listener discretion is advised and breath tidings and SAGITTARIANS bibliophiles. Welcome to episode fifteen of true crime by the book. We get together here once a week to chat about books movies and documentaries their sensor on true crime I am the librarian and your host Tosh appears this week. We've been assured discussing on kill killer hiller inside the mind of Aaron Hernandez if you like the episode please share both parts with a friend acquaintance or loved ones so I can blow up up at also appreciate ratings and reviews on your platform of choice and I've got a couple of shout outs for the end of the episode from Apple Facebook facebook and Pod chaser. But right now I think we should pick up with the downfall of Aaron Hernandez now throughout the series. We hear excerpts from conversations that Aaron had with the people closest to him of course being a guest of any prison comes with with a total lack of privacy. The calls in and out are recorded and we get to be a fly on the wall. When Aaron spoke with his agent his mom teary his cousin Tanya and his fiance? Shana the 'cause there were featured in the series offer a little insight in the mindset of Hernandez they also give us a glimpse of the relationships that he had with. These people. Now spoke about Terry in the first the episode her husband. Dennis passed away unexpectedly after having hernia surgery before a fifteen year old son could even begin. Learning to live without his dad had she moved her new Beau into the family home. Now this would have been difficult enough but the new boyfriend was no stranger. He was the husband husband of errands cousin. Tanya now this turn of events alienated Aaron from his mom and brought him and Tanya even and closer we hear Erin discussing her Decisions and how they affected him. It was both heartbreaking being in sickening to hear he was so frustrated that he couldn't share secrets with his mom because she will tell others he even says something to the effect of. If if you were here I'd punch you in a throat or something like that and I just think to myself self. Could you ever imagine saying that to your mother or or my father in my case and the answer is if not if I enjoyed having teeth because he would have sternly unle with that threat slapped my teeth down my throat so it really is like this is not something that that resonates with me. That how you spoke to your mother but what also didn't resonate with me as a mother is a child not being able to tell you something without true blabbing to every goddamn body. So it's obvious that he lacked a basic trust in his mom and and he also prophesied that she would die without even knowing her son and he was only half right and he spoke to shine a very often and this will by this time she hit mother to daughter with Aaron and it seems like she was very in love with Aaron and his imprisonment was weighing quite heavily on her There were days. She had to talk when she probably would have rather been crying. She gave him solid advice and talked him out out of responding to situations with anger. He also got to talk to his daughter during these calls. He made it very clear to Yana that he was positive that he would be beating this case. She seemed to be a little more realistic about his fate but she didn't rain on his parade. Now all all this talk about Aaron behind bars and we still haven't discussed how he got there. That's where we are introduced to Odin. Lloyd Oden was a semi pro football player and semi pro. Basically means that the amount players are compensated would not be enough to live. Yvonne in fact Odin Team said they basically paid to play. These are guys that really are just playing for the love of the game in Odin was a stellar semi pro player. And that's one thing he had in common with Erin love of the game and they would cross paths again for their other loves errands Fiance Shana and owns girlfriend. Shania our sisters they were close which means Odin in Aaron became close by default one more similarity between the guys was their love of Mary. Jane both were smokers. Odin was known in fact the blunt master for his talent at rolling marijuana cigars. The ladies would hang out while the guys would have sessions in errands man cave and we can only assume that olden air ear and began to share more than marijuana and they would occasionally go out together. This is how they came to be together in early morning. Hours of June seventeenth two thousand thirteen Aaron and two of his friends from the WHO the real who is not not the fake hood the hood. They went to Pick Odin up at his sister's home when he got in a car. Odin texted his sister. Did you see who I'm with then. He followed that with NFL. Just so you know now right now. Those texts seem ominous as fuck but at the moment his sister sister thought he might be bragging that he was hanging out within. Nfl Star in in June twenty thirteen. That's who Aaron Hernandez was a star. You're fresh off a super bowl appearance at the young age of twenty two Aaron at proven to be one of the premier tight ends in the NFL. He was rewarded with a contract. That would be worth forty million dollars. Over five years this was beyond lucrative. It was insane Zane. That contract alone represented forty million reasons for Aaron. Stay out of trouble. which makes it downright confounding that he you didn't because not only did Erin? Continue to go to nightclubs which triggered his paranoia smoke weed which could create professional professional issues and hang with the boys from the hood he was about to commit murder and no one can really know what what happened in those hours or why but the next day Odin was missing he Erin had plans to join their girlfriends for father's Day a brunch but odin was a no show later that evening his remains were found by a jogger who then called police owns body was found in a gravel. Pit in the pit is located less than a mile from Aaron Hernandez his home. These guys had you have to be the biggest idiots ever. Aaron didn't live in a modest three bedroom. He had a mansion a mile from a house. Is that size. May as well have been in his backyard. Then the morons left evidence that included DNA in the form of a half smoked blunt at the scene scene so it wasn't hard to come to the conclusion at Aaron and his friends Carlos or teeth in earnest wallace were involved in owns murder on June. Twenty six twenty thirteen. Aaron was arrested at his home Less than two hours later the Patriots cut him. This is where I tell you about. How shitty the business end of the NFL can be? We heard Aaron in one phone. Call talk about ban banned substances in the NFL. Not just marijuana but certain painkillers. There were also considered illegal drugs per the NFL standards. He spoke about how how hypocritical the League is because every Sunday the team doctors were injecting him. Full of those very sane sane illegal drugs anything it takes to win right and also Aaron asked to be traded. Because he was in fear for his and his family's or lease lives bell check in craft said. Nah How about we set you up in an apartment where you can lay low. Fuck your family right. You can lay low in this apartment even though we know that you're just going to basically smoke yourself into a stupor in this apartment. Isolated it from your family and worried about their safety but anything to win right. Of course. There's a story behind why Aaron was fear was fearful and I'll get to it once I'm through dragging the Patriots Organization. Now I know he was under contract but if a kid kid wants to be traded from perennial playoff contender. Wouldn't you want to look into. Why why why would he want to be traded for Erin? It was allegedly because he shot one of his best friends in the face and left him for dead imagine. His shock went on Valentine's Day. Two thousand thirteen. He received a call from Alexander. Bradley the man he had apparently tried to kill Bradley was very much alive and pissed. I guess that's understandable. I want someone literally wanted you. Dead and shot you in the fucking face. And he wasn't going to cooperate with police either. He never intended to out Teheran as the shooter he wanted revenge effect. He wanted revenge money or both. So why deflect Aaron sued him his constant friend paranoia required see. There was another case. We haven't yet discussed. Oh yeah the cases are just powering up. But in this case on July sixteenth twenty twelve Aaron allegedly was at the usual place that filled him with anxiety the nightclub when someone had the nerve gall and intestinal fortitude to accidentally spill a drink on on him up on leaving the club. Aaron and Bradley saw the guys involved in this incident instead of asking them. Hey my pan my dry cleaning leaning bill. It is alleged that Aaron rolled up on Amazon. What's up now niggers and began shooting into their car? Daniel or hate CRI- day ABREO. Who was twenty nine and Severo Tech Sierra for Tato which I'm pretty sure I ruin name was twenty eight? They were both hit in the hail of bullets and they both died from their injuries. The only person who could finger Aaron as the shooter was Bradley so killing him would be the only way to eliminate the only witness. Well he had no idea that there will be surveillance footage of his vehicle leaving the scene of the crime but more on that a little later so the Patriots could have and should have looked further into errands request and the timing of it and they would have easily deduced it. Aaron was involved in some top tier. Bullshit they went the route of plausible. Deniability I fucking hate the fact at these players are like chess pieces that the organization owns quote unquote in when you when you own something valuable. You don't want anyone anyone else to get it. So they were overlooking to fail. Drug tests the incompatibility with the locker room and the glaring character issues because they owned him as long as he's useful to us. We're GONNA continue playing them. The entire Patriots Organization has the blood blood of Odin Lloyd on their hands because Stevie wonder could see that this kid was troubled and I call him a kid. He was twenty three when the shit hit the fan. Yes he was technically an adult. Yes he was absolutely rich beyond my wildest dreams he was also oh socially immature per the Patriots own scouting report. He needed guidance. Actually later on we find out he needed even more than that and it's like he found peace behind bars. He was content listening to the phone calls. Which Yana Jonah? It was clear this she was the adult in room. He had affection for her and their daughter but they weren't enough for him to make better choices. Voices and his mom was literally fussing at him about not giving her a million dollars while he was locked up she even understand it. A forty million Ndala contract does not mean. He's got forty million dollars today but in of all the damn things to be worried about. Why are you worried about that? He wasn't getting that money. The Patriots were doing everything in their power to not even pay his signing bonus. So you know they weren't going to be paying any me part of this contract even though these bastards no he was thugging and look the other way. But I'm making this about New England when it's really about about how fucked up Aaron Hernandez is he strode into court looking devastatingly handsome and just a little bit scared just just a little. He blew kisses to his daughter. He seemed normal. And that's a scary thing. How normal he seemed Shana? I sat with Aaron's family. Her sister said with owns family once so close now. They were estranged because Sayonara stood by her man. Also never wavering. In her support was Tanya who by now was battling cancer and while I thought the activities she condoned at her home played some part in Aaron's delinquency she without a doubt loved him. Remember the other murders that Aaron was thoughts with committed. I said a vehicle that looked very much like his showed up in surveillance video. He was known to the drive a silver silver SUV. That poof vanished. Well that vehicle was finally located via a search warrant. The police located it in the garage at Tanya and try is they may prosecutors could not get her to cooperate rate with their investigation. She even stared down being charged with contempt without blinking. Now the judge didn't blink either when he sends serve jail time despite the fact that this woman would miss her cancer treatment. If she got locked up she did get locked up but but she ended up making bail after one hundred ninety six days. I don't want to go into all her cases in such but she was a ride or die she did the jail time. She pled guilty rather than answer any questions. She missed precious days with her children for Aaron. She continued battling cancer until passing away in October. Of Twenty fifteen. And do I really need to give you you a blow by blow of the court proceedings in the Lloyd case good. I'll just say Robert Kraft old evil to face as testified oops oops did I just say that. I don't even know Mr Craft but I do know. His Organization is always in the midst of cheating scandal. I do. We know that he's shaking in his boots because the Patriot. Tom Brady is dipping his toe into free agency and I also know that he allegedly Louis likes a happy ending. There was very powerful testimony from Odin Lloyd's mom as she held back tears. SANA got up there and in light is she is also considered a ride or die. I think she's Misguided time singleton show the world that it was family over everything and she had her cousins back. In the meantime Shanas family. Her sister was sitting on the opposite side out of the courtroom grieving. The loss of her boyfriends at the hands of say Janas boyfriend at the end of it all Aaron is found guilty in the death of Odin Lloyd. He was sentenced to life imprisonment. Now he was acquitted of the murders of for Tato. Hello and d'abreo so now his focus should have been on assisting his attorney with appeals. He and Shana were being hopeful for their future future. That is until a Kirk and Callahan. Radio show appearance by a reporter name. Michelle mcphee there here. She and the Ho- suggested that Aaron was a closeted homosexual. While I feel it's kind of it's kind of classless to out him on it in radio for being closeted homosexual. I also don't think Michelle mcphee is a villain here. She took a perp person who lived their lives in a very public Nick Manner Hernandez and she devotes something that nobody else knew. She was basically Siklie breaking a story well. Two days after that story broke Aaron will be found hanging in his cell all dead from an apparent suicide. He at left three letters one. Shana once was daughter and one that is rumored to have been to his prison lover. There was also a Bible open to John Three Sixteen which reads For God so loved the world that He gave his is only begotten Son for who so ever believed in the M shall not perish but have everlasting life. That same verse was written on on his forehead as well and I take that for two two things thing number one. Those were the the Bible verses that Tim Tebow Abo- would generally have on his face paint when he went in a played in games and also bad. He felt like he had made amends with God and that he thought that he would gain Ah ever lasting life. There's much speculation that he could not live with the world knowing this deep secret of his bisexuality but evaluations of Aaron Brain after his death may shed light on all of his impulsive and violent behavior that exam prove that at twenty seven Aaron had one of the worst cases of Cte ever studied even at his young age. There was a considerable amount of damage thoughts who've come from sustaining head head injuries while playing football unfortunately the degenerative brain disease can only be diagnosed an autopsy according to a July twenty seventeen article published in sports illustrated a study by Boston University researcher. Doctor her Ann McKee examined the brains of two hundred two deceased football players and found that one hundred one hundred ten of the one hundred eleven brains of former. NFL players had chronic traumatic encephalopathy that C. T. e.. The results were published in the Journal of the American Medical Association. The brains were donated by families of former. NFL players who showed signs of the disease. He's the study was not conducted on a set of random former. NFL Players and Dr McKee notes tremendous selection bias in the in the samples. It is no longer debatable. Whether or not there is a problem in football there is a problem. Dr McKee said according to The New York Times high school players in the study had mild cases while college and professionals channels head more severe cases C. T. E. was found in one hundred seventy seven of the two hundred two brains. This disease can cause impaired judgment aggression memory loss and depression. CTE can only be diagnosed. Post Post Mortem study examined players as young as twenty three years old and his old eighty. Nine the brains were also from aw player positions including forty four linemen ten linebackers seventeen defensive backs and seven quarterbacks former. Nfl Hall of Famer. Ken Stabler was among the brains after he asked that he be examined when he was battling colon cancer McKee determined at Stabler had a moderately severe case of ct the family of the only NFL player without ct not e did not authorize Dr McKee to publicly identify them. The NFL issued the following statement to SL DOT COM com. We appreciate the work done by Dr McKee and her colleagues for the value it adds in the ongoing quest for a better understanding of CTE not case study such as those compiled in his updated. Paper are important to further advance. The science and progress related needed to head trauma the medical and scientific communities will benefit from this publication and NFL will continue to work with a wide range of experts. spurts to improve the health of current and former NFL athletes as noted by the authors. There are still many unanswered questions is relating to the calls incidents and prevalence of long-term effects of head trauma such a CT the NFL is committed supporting scientific research into C team and advancing progress in prevention and treatment of head injuries in twenty only sixteen the NFL pledged one hundred million dollars in support of independent medical research and injury engineering advancements in neuroscience royal science related topics this is an addition to the one hundred million the NFL and its partners are already spending on medical in neuroscience research and it says Jeff Miller the NFL's senior vice president for health and safety testified before the House of Representatives and was asked by Illinois Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky whether he thinks there is a link between football and degenerative brain disorders like Ct.. The answer to that question is certainly yes. Miller responded with that answer her comes another question. What is the NFL prepared to do to ensure players get the help they need when and if they begin to show symptoms because the Florida gators turn their backs on Aaron and sent him to the League? The League turned a blind eye hi enabled and then discarded him like trash any been playing sports since early. Childhood with an Uber Masculine father whom AF celebrated his son's toughness when he sustained damaging hits There was a former player cannot remember his name and I really don't care here to look it up right this moment but there was a former player who made up survey Shen that head injuries. Don't cause anyone to become a murderer. The I'm not qualified to make this assumption but I'll make it anyway. It is proven that head injuries can result in brain damage and that damage may increase an individual's likelihood to be impulsive and destructive. If there are murderous thoughts they could be amplified by the damage. Does that mean that I think air should have been let off the hook. Hell no but I do believe that is repeated blows to the head should have been considered in sentencing. I also believe that other athletes with the history of severe head trauma who went on to have a cognitive decline should have been presented as examples of what type of difficulties Aaron may have faced. I believe the Patriots should have been sued in civil court for the wrongful death of Odin Lloyd based on the knowledge that Aaron had approached them about about a trade due to death threats. And don't mistake me for being anti NFL either. I absolutely love the sport but I do realize that in the US. Football worship has gone too far when the sport is known to be potentially dangerous to the athletes it it is imperative to take all the preventative actions. Necessary to mitigate that danger. I'm not sure what that looks like because I'm not a neuroscientist scientists and I'm definitely not an owner of a NFL football team. But I think a good start is to rethink pewee in Pop Warner football for the little kids. I also think that players should be able to understand and accept the risks when they play on any level which means that tackle football would have to wait until the teenage years and for Professionals Organizations Organization's need to be they need to be about the players well-being they need to staff professionals. Who can identify changes to behavior and athletes elites and be prepared to make a player medically unfit to play? If they display the classic symptoms of severe brain damage. They also need to have the license to make those decisions to not be being paid to look the other way by the NFL and while while they're at it they can protect respect. The players right to peaceful protest. But I digress. Aaron that a triple life. It was at the same time and insanely talented athlete. A sexually confused young man and a cold blooded murderer murderer he was let down in so many ways by so many people he also destroyed many lives with his actions ads. Sexuality should not have been that big of a story though he did protest too much about homosexual homosexuality and transgender transgender. Women doesn't mean he should be outed but it does mean when the the person whose protesting the loudest. There's usually a reason behind it. I just wish is she would have gotten helped sooner. Because this sensational and salacious story may have never happened if he did there of course so much more to this documentary than I could cover in two half hour episodes so I highly recommend that you watch the net flicks series. EARY's killer inside the mind of Aaron Hernandez also Peop- The bit players. Let me know if you think that a couple of them were propping themselves up with their appearance appearance in the series kind of felt fifteen minutes of fame bitch. 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Democracy Now! 2019-02-08 Friday

"From New York. This is democracy. Now today is the day that we truly embarked on a comprehensive agenda of economic social and racial Justice in the United States of America. That's what this agenda is all about because climate change climate change in our environmental challenges are one of the biggest existentialist threats to our way of life. Congress member Alexandra a Paseo Cortes and Senator Ed Markey introduced the new green deal to combat the climate crisis. With a sweeping plan for national mobilization to phase out fossil fuels, we'll speak with journalists. Kate aren't off. Then the supreme court strikes down Louisiana law. Imposing strict regulations on abortion clinics. Just days after Trump attacked abortion legislation in New York and Virginia and his state of. Of the union address to defend the dignity of every person. I am asking congress to pass legislation to prohibit the late term abortion of children. We'll speak with planned Parenthood's new president Dr Lena win, then to the ongoing crisis of family separation at the border after officials at a congressional hearing Thursday did not dispute there may be thousands more missing kids who are separated from their parents than originally reported, we'll speak with the us legal act all that and more coming out. Welcome to democracy now democracy now dot org. The Warren peace report, I'm Amy Goodman in a major victory for reproductive rights. The supreme court has temporarily blocked a restrictive Louisiana anti-choice choice law from going into effect. The case was seen as a litmus test for determining whether millions of women across the nation will have continued access to abortions the divided court ruled five to four and favor of an emergency appeal by Louisiana based abortion provider to block the law, which would have required doctors who perform abortions to have admitting privileges of the hospital within thirty miles of their clinics. Chief Justice John Roberts joined the courts four liberal justices in the five to four decision. Justice spread Kavanagh wrote the dissent. We'll have more on the ruling later in the broadcast New York. Congress member Alexandra Cossio Cortez and Massachusetts Senator Ed Markey have formally introduced the green new deal a sw-. Sweeping plan to transform the nation's economy and chief net zero greenhouse gas emissions and ten years on Thursday. Alexandra Cossio Cortez spoke outside the capitol. There is no Justice. And there is no combat in climate change without addressing what has happened to indigenous communities that means that there is no fixing our economy without addressing the racial wealth gap. That means that we are not going to transition to renewable energies without also transitioning frontline communities and coal communities into economic opportunity as well, we'll have more on the green new deal after headlines. The New York Times is reporting US intelligence agencies have uncovered a two thousand seventeen conversation in which Saudi Crown prince Mohammad bin someone told a top aide. He would go after Jamal kashogi. She quote with a bullet if the exile journalists could not be brought back to Saudi Arabia. Via thirteen months later and Tober of two thousand eighteen kashogi. She was murdered inside the Saudi consulate in his stumble that is covering of the crown prince's statement was made as the national security agency. Another US spy agencies are reviewing years of intercepted, Saudi voice and text communications. According to the times omitted bin Salman made the comment about kashogi and September of two thousand seventeen the same month when kashogi she began writing columns in the Washington Post critical of the Saudi government the White House faces a deadline today to determine whether the Saudi Crown prince was personally responsible for kashogi. She's murder the world's richest, man. Amazon CEO Jeff basis has publicly accused the owner of the National Enquirer of extortion and blackmail basis recently hired a private investigator to determine how the tabloid. Newspaper obtained private text messages between him and his lover. And whether the papers actions were politically motivated for years, the national enquirers top editor David pecker has had a close relationship with President Trump who frequently attacks bazo and the Washington Post which as Ozone's on Thursday night. A reporter at the Washington Post told MSNBC bazo security and legal team believe the private Tex might have been accessed by quote government entity, the national enquirers parent company American media Inc. Responded to bazo says investigation by threatening to publish revealing photos of basis if he did not agree to publicly state that the national enquirers coverage is not politically motivated or influenced by political forces in a blog post on the site, medium bazo suggests the leak of his text messages might be connected to his ownership of the Washington. Post basis wrote, quote, it's unavoidable that certain powerful people who experience Washington Post, news coverage will wrongly conclude. I am their enemy President Trump is one of those people of the spy his many tweets, also, the posts sensual and unrelenting coverage of the murder of its columnists Jamaica show, she is undoubtedly unpopular in certain circles in his bog post bazo swint onto rate for reasons. Still to be better. Understood the Saudi angle seems to hit a particularly sensitive nerve, unquote. Meanwhile, Pulitzer prize winning journalist Ronan Farrow of the New Yorker has also revealed he was threatened with blackmail over his reporting on the National Enquirer and President Trump McClatchy is reporting then as well and thirties have uncovered nineteen. So at weapons one hundred eighteen munition cartridges and ninety military grade radio antennas on board. A US own plane that had flown from Miami into Valencia Venezuela's third largest city, the Boeing seven sixty seven is owned by a company called Twenty-one air based in Greensboro, North Carolina. The plane has made nearly forty round trip flights between Miami and spots in Venezuela and Colombia since January eleventh the day after Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro was sworn into a second term boulevard in national guard general and this Palencia Ortiz said quote, this material was destined for criminal groups and terrorist actions in the country financed by the fascist extreme right and the government of the United States quote. This comes as the United States is openly pushing for the toppling of Medeiros government on Thursday, the new use special on void Venezuela. Elliot. Abrams ruled out any negotiations with president Maduro bureau has proven he. Will manipulate any call for negotiations to his advantage? And he has often used so-called dialogues as way to play for time. We are all involved to deal solely with the the gentleman government time for dialogue with Madero has long passed Elliot Abrams has a right wing Hawke who is convicted in nineteen ninety one for lying to congress during the Iran contra scandal later pardoned by president George H W Bush Abrahams. Also defended watermelon dictator general fry in response as he oversaw campaign of mass murder and torture of indigenous people in Guatemala in the nineteen eighties. The Senate Judiciary committee has narrowly voted to approve William bars nomination to become attorney general every democrat on the committee voted against bar who previously served as George H W Bush is attorney general during that time he was involved in the pardon of six. Reagan officials inclu-. Leading Elliot Abrams for the Iran contra scandal, he also for saw the opening of the Guantanamo Bay military prison, which was initially used to indefinitely detain Haitian. Asylum-seekers democratic Senator Amy klobuchar of Minnesota said, quote, this is not the time to install an attorney general who's repeatedly espoused view of unfettered executive power. She said in related news acting attorney general Matthew Whitaker is heading to Capitol Hill today to testify before the House Judiciary committee ending a standoff between the Justice department, and how Democrats the hearings expected to focus impart on special counsel, Robert Muller's Russia probe and whether President Trump attempted to interfere in the investigation. The Phoenix new times is reporting a prisoner, and our Zona has died just six weeks after he filed a court document claiming he was quote being killed due to inadequate medical care. Sixty four year old Richard Washington. Who's African American died on January thirty first from complications related to diabetes, hypertension, and hepatitis C. And December fifteenth filed a document accusing prison officials of quote, actively refusing unquote to give him the medication he needed his legal filing was titled quote, notice I am being killed. In other news. Dozens of protesters rallied outside the federal metropolitan detention center in Brooklyn New York on Thursday during last week's polar vortex. Sixteen hundred prisoners were held at the prison without heat hot, meals or electricity. The protests came one day after a judge visited the prison to inspect conditions at the jail. Johnson. I'm out here and support solidarity for the detainees NBC also feared just shows that the freshness behavior that the government into right now cannot be accepted, and that people on the ground out here to hold them accountable. When we came to the courthouse on Tuesday, we understood that the government was going to do what they do. They're going to clean up house. They're going to show that the cells of fine. And then when all the smoke and mirrors of gone, a becomes back to the original plan of hurting black and Brown people and not acknowledge them in thinking that they're lower than Mandy school thirties in Hazleton Pennsylvania are facing criticism. After video was posted online showing a white school police officer, attacking an African American teenage girl the video shows four school officials surrounding the girl as one officer punches her in the leg, then grabs her hair and violently. Pushes her head onto a cafeteria table in the video dozens of nearby students can be seen screaming at the officers to stop Hazelton. School officials said the officers were de-escalating student brawl which resulted in the suspension of four students. The video was posted online on Monday at schools across the country began Mark black lives matter at school week. In sports news, the hall of fame baseball player. Frank Robinson has died at the age of eighty three and nineteen. Seventy five Robinson became the first African American manager in major league history and former Democratic Congress member John Dingle of Michigan has died at the age of ninety two a long time champion of universal healthcare Dingle served in the house for a record fifty nine years from nineteen fifty five until two thousand fifteen he has survived by his wife. Congress member Debbie Dingle, and those are some of the head. Lines. This is democracy. Now democracy now dot org. The Warren peace report, I'm Amy Goodman. We go now to Washington DC where the supreme court blocked restrictive Louisiana anti choice law from going into effect Thursday in a major victory for reproductive rights advocates. The case was seen as a litmus test for determining whether millions of women across the nation will continue to have access to abortion, the divided court ruled five to four in favor of an emergency appeal by Louisiana based abortion provider hope medical group for women to temporarily block a Republican back law that could have left the state with just a single doctor legally allowed to perform abortions the law requires doctors who perform abortions to have admitting privileges at a hospital within thirty miles of their clinics. Pro choice groups. Call such statutes trap laws or targeted. Regulation of abortion providers in two thousand sixteen the supreme court struck down nearly identical Texas law in a five to three ruling the now retired Justice Kennedy ruled with the majority in that decision. His replacement Justice Brett Cavanaugh voted with the minority on Thursday. Chief Justice John Roberts joined the court's liberals to block the anti-abortion law from taking effect for the moment. The news came just days after President Donald Trump attacked reproductive rights in the state of the union address. Trump criticized the state of New York for passing a law codifying a woman's right to an abortion. Reno. Greater contrast to the beautiful image of a mother holding her infant child, then that chilling displays our nation saw in recent days. Lawmakers in New York cheered with delight upon the passage of legislation that would allow a baby to be ripped from the mother's womb moments from birth. These are living feeling beautiful babies who will never get the chance to share their love and their dreams with the world. And then we had the case of the governor of Virginia where he stated he would execute a baby after birth to defend the dignity of every person. I am asking congress to pass legislation to prohibit the late term abortion of children. Let us work together to build a culture that cherishes in his life. In let us reaffirm a fundamental truth all children born and unborn are made in the holy image of God. New York governor Anju Cuomo responded on Twitter by writing quote, breaking real Donald Trump just propose rolling back row. The law of our nation for forty six years of firmed, and reaffirmed by numerous supreme court's. Never New York has a message. Those who spread lies and fear to control women's reproductive health. Not going to happen. Not now not ever. Well for more. We go to Washington DC where we're joined by Dr Lena win. She's the new president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America and Planned Parenthood action fund. She's the first physician to lead the organization in nearly fifty years and the first Asian American and immigrant ever to hold the office. Dr wen as practicing emergency room. Doctor who's also served as the Commissioner of health for the city of Baltimore. She entered medical school at the age of eighteen after coming to the United States as a young immigrant from China. Just over. Ten years earlier in two thousand eighteen time magazine named her one of the fifty most influential people in healthcare, she is co author of when doctors don't listen how to avoid misdiagnoses and unnecessary tests? Dr Leana wen. Welcome to democracy now. Thank you. It's a pleasure to join you. It's a great. It's great to have you with us. Let's start off with the supreme court decision. Actually, how significant is. It's significance to the women of the wiz who have a temporary. But important ruling that would allow them to continue to get access to healthcare, which is what it is abortion is a safe legal medical procedure that one in four women will have in our lifetimes. We have to talk about abortion in the context of reproductive, health care and reproductive healthcare as healthcare women's healthcare as healthcare, and it's important that the supreme court issued this temporary blocking. However, it's important to note that that Justice Cavanaugh was among those who dissented which means that all of us who were very concerned about his nomination are correct in that Rovers. Wade Hanes in the balance with Cavanaugh on the supreme court talk about chief Justice John Roberts weighing in with the liberals again. Again, this is a temporary decision. Well for us at Planned Parenthood. This is about people's ability to access fundamental healthcare. And we know that this is also the will the people that seventy three percent of Americans support Roe versus Wade as the law of the land. And it's something that we saw in the last midterm elections that women particularly women of color rose out to vote for a strongly pro reproductive health majority in the house of representatives. We also now have twenty five governors and nineteen state legislatures including DC that will protect women's rights and reproductive healthcare. And it's time for everyone to respect that women's healthcare is just what it is healthcare and healthcare is a fundamental human, right? We're you surprised by chief? Trust us Roberts weighing in with the liberal justices. While this is a temporary blocking we now need for the supreme. Court to overturn rule that would cost women's lives. Dr Leana wen. Let's move to title ten now not most people in this country. Probably don't know what it is. But talk about why you're so focused on it. And what is an imminent decision. That's about to take place. Well, I I want to address what President Trump said during the state of the union, which I watched from the balcony of the US capital as a guest of of speaker Nancy Pelosi, I was angry and disgusted because the president of the United States deliberately lied to the American people as a way to manipulate to spread misinformation into distract from his alternate objective, which is to overturn Roe versus Wade and Kat access to women's health care reproductive, healthcare and restrict women's rights. We see what? Trump is doing and we see what Trump is doing also with titled ten which is the nation's only grant program that provides for cancer screenings STI has HIV care reproductive health care to millions of people we expect any day now that the Trump administration will be issuing their final rules to basically gal doctors doctors like me will be prevented from providing our patients with accurate information. So if a woman goes to a clinic that receives public funding, and she requests information referral for an abortion, the doctor will not be able to provide her with a referral, even if her life is in danger. It's ridiculous. It's unethical. It's illegal in Planned Parenthood won't be fighting President Trump, and the Trump administration with everything we have because it is our goal. It is our job to protect women's health and the health and rights of all people just to be clear if you were if a gag rule were imposed and you were asked as a doctor. By women saying I'd like to terminate my pregnancy. What should I do? What could you legally respond? I want to I say that we don't have the final rule by the Trump administration yet. And so what we understand that? The Trump administration is going to do is to prevent doctors from giving women their auctions. And specifically if a woman says that she would like to have a referral to receive an abortion, doctor who is working in a clinic that receives titled ten funding would not even be able to give that referral even if her life is in danger, and this compromises are fundamental ethics as doctors, and nurses, it compromises the oath that I took what I became a doctorate, which is to help all my patients to make the best decisions for themselves. It's my job as a doctor to trust. My patients to trust women and politicians like Donald Trump have no role legislating and telling me what I can or cannot say to advise my patients it compromise. Is patient rights it compromises physician ethics and Planned Parenthood will not stand for that. We're gonna break then come back to our discussion with the new president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America. Dr Leana wen. This is democracy. Now back in a minute. A lot of opus. You guys got. Read the dance. They take us abetted back. Suppress this dress. Unnoticed. Debbie. Not much to take. That you're. End of my bloodline remix, featuring more mother by screaming females this is democracy. Now, I make Goodman, I wanna turn Virginia where a reckoning about racism and sexual assaults left. The state government in disarray with Virginia's top three elected officials all Democrats facing political crises that threatened up in their careers in the states leadership the controversy. That's invalid Virginia since governor. Ralph north and admitted last week to wearing black face took a shocking turn Wednesday when attorney general Mark herring. Also admitted to wearing black face at a college party at the university of Virginia just days prior herring. Who second in line for Virginia's governorship had called for governor north them to resign. The first in line Virginia Lieutenant governor Justin Fairfax is also embroiled and scandal after a woman who's accused him of sexual assault came forward Wednesday with details of the encounter. So we're going to turn right now continue our conversation with Dr Lena win, the president of the Planned Parenthood Federation. America, the first doctor to serve as a precedent in half a century and the first Asian American and immigrant ever to hold that office. She also before being head of Planned Parenthood was Commissioner of health for the city of Baltimore. Dr win e Planned Parenthood was one of the first when governor northern governor nor them admitted to wearing black face. Demanded that he resigned though, Planned Parenthood had been a longtime supporter financially and otherwise of governor north them. Why did you take that stance? Governor north them is not just a governor. He's a doctor there is profound racism in medical care. Pro that's led to huge health disparities for African Americans for immigrants for people of color. And I thought allot about what it was like to be a medical school classmate of governor Northam who is a person of color, and what is the care that governor north Dr north them in his classmates, wore pool or block phase what does the care that they delivered to their patients we as Planned Parenthood will never stand for racism bigotry harassment discrimination of any kind and as a healthcare organization. It was particularly important for us to speak out because racism is something that deeply profoundly affect the health outcomes of our patients. Won't if all three of the democratic politicians resign, and it's a little complicated. But Republican speaker of the house of delegates in Virginia. Kirk Cox would be next in line to become governor. He's compared aborted fetuses to dead soldiers. This is Cox speaking against abortion just last week on the state house floor, the odd can handle five hundred thousand messages some time you sleep. We are no accident. How about a baby week four the two opposite nerves are forming. And so is the lands. We ate that retina. I just began to talk about this for me, those one hundred and thirty one hundred and thirty million rod shaped cells week sixteen the app picks up light, we twenty six the end of the second trod Nestor that as fully formed. It can see light in the outlets open. And I think if you shine a flashlight on mother stomach, you just might get a kick or wiggle with the miracle of modern medicine at tweet two weeks. We now over twenty percents of our rate what a blessing so that's Virginia. Republican speaker of the house of delegates. Kirk Cox, who is in the chain of succession to be governor. Couldn't sit guy considering what might happen. Dr lean away. Can you respond to what he said? And then also too. What governor nor them said about abortion? I think it's important for us to talk about medicine and science and facts, I don't even want to respond to these things that are said that are not medically accurate. But here are the facts as I know them as a doctor as a scientist as the president of Planned Parenthood. It's a fact that abortion is a safe legal medical procedure. That is common that one in four women in America. We'll have in our lifetimes. It's a fact that about ninety nine percent of abortions occur before twenty one weeks. It's a fact that those that occur later are because of extreme circumstances such as a extreme danger to women's health and life. And when there are things like unsurvivable fetal anomalies, I had a patient whom found down in her second trimester, the she was carrying twins. That would be born. Learn without diaphragms or without ever developing their lungs, and so should carry them to term. They would have suffocated upon birth thing medicine is complex. It's extremely difficult for women to make very personal very painful decisions. It's my job as the doctor to provide my patients with the information that they need to make the best decision. They can for their health, and it shouldn't be up to any politician to make that decision. For woman, actually, what these politicians are doing is trying to restrict women's access to healthcare, and as a doctor, I know what the cost is going to be the cost is going to be women's lives. The American people have shown that we want more healthcare and not less. That's what we demand of our elected officials to respect that women's healthcare should be treated no differently than any other aspect of healthcare. At a time when Turner mortality in the US is soaring is increasing versus all other industrialized countries. It's decreasing we should really be looking hard out. What it is that we're doing as this healthcare system. We have a healthcare system a political system that does not valley women's lives that don't give as something as basic as bodily atonomy one hundred years ago. Planned Parenthood was founded on the simple idea that your body is your own. And if it's not then you cannot truly be free or equal. It's same fight that we're fighting hill. I mean, we have a situation where with this appre cords within a year. One in three women of reproductive age, which is twenty five million women could be living in states where Boertien is outlawed and banned states across this country have passed abortion bay as early as six weeks when most of them don't even know that we're pregnant this is what's at stake right now. It's literally about women's lives. Dr Lene as you talk. About healthcare being a human, right? Are you for Medicare for all? I am for universal access to healthcare. They are multiple models that deserve examination and careful analysis and debate Medicare for all is one of those proposals. It's important for us to hold up our values in my value and our valley implant parenthood is that everyone must be guaranteed. Affordable quality, compassionate expert, healthcare, regardless of who you are what you look like where you come from whether you can pay that health care must be guaranteed. Right. Not a privilege. That's available only to some end. Reproductive health care women's health care should be treated no differently than any other aspect of healthcare. I mean think about the gag rule. How much outrage what they're be? If the Trump administration set to doctors, you can't tell your patients with diabetes anything about insulin. Well, that's what's happening that reproductive. Healthcare has specifically been singled out silo stigmatized attacked. When actually it's the same thing as any other aspect of healthcare. That's what I believe. That's what Planned Parenthood believes. And that's what we will always fight for because our northstar it's not, you know, what we do isn't fighting about the what what we do is fight for our patients. That's what we do every day is to fight for our patients their lives their futures in their rights after when before you go your life story is quite remarkable. And I was wondering if you could share some of it with us talk about coming to this country. When I was seven my parents brought me here to the US from China, and we were able to stay on political asylum. My parents, and I in those early days really struggled, even though my parents worked two jobs depended on Medicaid. We dependent on wick when my mother was pregnant with my sister, we dependent on food stamps. And I think a lot about what this president is trying to do to attack people like me for us, Medicaid food stamps. They were not an entitlement. They are lifeline. They were what in abled us to stay in this country. And I truly believe now as I am a new mom myself to a one and a half year old boy, I truly believe that. I am living my parents while streams, and I'm so fortunate to have also been a patient of Planned Parenthood. So as my mother, so as my sister, just like one in five women in America that Plum parent. Hood and access to reproductive healthcare was also our lifeline Planned Parenthood. Reproductive healthcare is what enabled me to be able to to pursue my wildest dreams. And that's why I support it will always fight for this organization. Doctor when you you wouldn't to college when you were fourteen years old. When I was thirteen. So I was also I was in college. When when when I was fourteen, and when did you go to medical school when I was eighteen and I was very fortunate and privileged to be able to do that. It's something that I never I always trumped up doctor, but I didn't know that it was something that I could do and being a doctor is the greatest privilege of my life because I'm able to take care of patients and their families in their time of greatest need. But it's also in medicine and public health that I've seen how it is a public health crisis. This attack on women's health care and the attack on reproductive healthcare, the attack on algebra Q people the attack on immigrants, it's a public health crisis. And that's what I'm fighting with all of our supporters and our partners here, Planned Parenthood. You were diagnosed with cervical cancer at the age of twenty seven. That's right. So I actually only told the story for the first time a few weeks ago, it's a deeply personal story, and I didn't share it. But when I was twenty seven I was diagnosed with early cervical cancer as part of a routine Pap smear. And I was very lucky that the cancer was called early. I underwent a procedure that I knew what affect my for Tilleke and my husband, and I'm really wanted to have children. And it's something that we didn't talk about for years our struggles with for teddy, and and the cancer diagnosis, but I decided to tell it two weeks ago for the first time in bed because I thought if I'm not sharing the story. With a platform that I have that. How can I encourage others to and how can I encourage others to get the HP vaccine to get early detection and treatment, which has saved my life. And I would encourage others to tell their stories to because it's so important for us to emphasize diagnosis screening unto talk about how programs like titled ten are so important because they are literally life-saving preventive services that we Planned Parenthood offer to nearly two and a half million patients every single year Dr leeann and win I wanna thank you so much for being with us. The new president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America and the Planned Parenthood action fund first physician to head the organization and fifty years first Asian American and immigrant ever to hold the office. She's also served as Commissioner of health for the city of Baltimore. And we'll have you back on to talk about your fight against opioids and all the work. You did there in two. Two thousand eighteen time magazine named Dr wen one of the most one of the fifty most influential people in healthcare when we come back. Congress member Alexandra cuss show Cortez has just introduced the green new deal. We'll speak with journalists Kedar enough stay with us. June on. Mr. Greaves by the pixies. This is democracy. Now democracy now dot org. The Warren peace report, I made me Goodman after months of anti pation, New York. Congress member Alexandra Cossio Cortez and Massachusetts Senator Ed Markey introduced a resolution for the green new deal. Thursday, presenting a sweeping plan to achieve net zero greenhouse gas emissions and ten years and create economic prosperity for all this is congress member Cossio Cortes introducing the resolution today is the day that we truly embark on a comprehensive agenda of economic social and racial Justice in the United States of America. That's what this agenda is all about because climate change climate change in our environmental challenges are one of the biggest existential threats to our way of life. Not at not just as a nation, but as a world. The blueprint laid out by congress, member Cortez and Senator Markey aims to overhaul. The US economy with green initiatives that'll transition the US to clean energy while guaranteeing all Americans clean, air and water food and housing security and robust healthcare and an interview with politico Wednesday house speaker Pelosi seemed to mock the green new deal saying, quote, it will be one of several or maybe many suggestions that we receive the green dream or whatever they call it. Nobody knows what it is. But they're four it. Right. She said. Congress member cuss. You Cortes addressed what some are calling a slight by Pelosi in an interview on MSNBC on Thursday with truck Todd. What I introduced today was a resolution not Bill a resolution just has to pass the house and the substance of our resolution is not a plan. It's it's the scope of the plan. And so I think in terms of the scope of the plan. I think I think we're going to get there. We have we launched with over sixty co sponsors in the house that is. Pretty crazy. And so we were able to launch on day one with sixty co sponsors, we have more rolling in. And I think we may even get a majority of the democratic caucus on board that was congress member. I'll exander custody Cortez. Talking about the green new deal twenty twenty democratic presidential hopefuls Kamla, Harris, Elizabeth Warren Kirsten gillibrand, Cory Booker. Bernie Sanders who is not announced yet have all signed on co sponsors of the resolution well for more which owned by Kedar enough, a fellow at the tight media center, a contributing writer at the intercept and Jakobsen her most recent article for the intercept is headlined the green new deal takes its first congressional baby step is Pelosi mocks green dream or whatever. Welcome to democracy. Now. Kate talk about the significance of what happened yesterday. So what happened yesterday was Alexander toes marquee, really sort of taking the first steps toward what it will mean to pass legislation for green new deal. So. As Representative protests said in that clip. This is not the plan to implement the green new deal. This is not going to become law. But what it does do lay out sort of broad principles by which that plan can be implemented and sort of ramp up pressure on the select committee on the climate crisis, which speaker Pelosi created several weeks ago and named members to yesterday, and sort of, you know, puts the pressure on them, and sort of on politics, more generally and particularly twenty twenty candidates to really come out and endorse. A very specific version of what agree new deal is and make it more than just a talking point. So many people are wondering why Alexandra custody coaches who this is been the issue that she's really been pushing for is not on this committee. Well, so what came out yesterday? Interestingly after news that she had been snubbed which turned out to be false Nancy Pelosi it actually asked her to be on the KOMO. Eighty and she turned them down. And I'm not totally sure why I mean, she did say yesterday that you know, she she didn't need to do that on chef Todd. But I my my guess would be that she thinks she can do better. Elsewhere. She's onto very power powerful committees with real power that have subpoena power. Unlike the committee on the climate crisis, and you know, she can get valuable work on there, and she can get work done and doing what she did yesterday, which is really standing with social movements really standing with folks who are pushing for new deal outside and pushing that in the public conversation rather than these these hearings. Now, I assume house speaker Nancy Pelosi is bothered by this whole thing. Because one of the first things that congress member elect Alexandra custody Cortes did before she became congress members protest outside of the house speaker's office specifically around this issue. But how significant is it that she was mocking it and saying this green dream or whatever. This thing is that everyone's four, well, I think it's really significant because of just how much of an outlier it seems like you have politicians who for so long, you know, have fashion themselves sort of business friendly, centrist, all of a sudden the last year because of the sort of rising popularity of really progressive ideas because of Bernie Sanders because of people like Cortez coming out and supporting plans for something as ambitious as green new deal. And so I think Pelosi really looks increasingly like an outsider even when she talks about climate. And even when she says, I'm committed to this issue her solutions to it, or you know, so called solutions to it are not just up to the task. And I think more people are seeing that. So what is this green new deal? What is this committee? So the committee in the green dealer separate thing. So Representative of protest asked for a green new deal select committee to arrive at a plan over the course of a year to figure out how he would actually implement this thing how to do in a Kombi wide transformation. And so in lieu of that what this resolution does is lay out fourteen projects and several principles over which of that process can be can be carried out and to get people to start thinking about it. So it includes sort of decarbonisation of trinity in robust investment. In public transit also things like preventing the abuse of domain, ensuring free prior informed consent for indigenous folks in in seeing infrastructure built on on indigenous land, it's a really sort of sweeping broad legislation that really put some meat on the bones of the green new deal. ID that's Charon to New York, congressman Alexandria cortra-. Speaking on sixty minutes with Anderson Cooper about how to pay for the green new deal. You're talking about zero carbon emissions. No use of fossil fuels within twelve years. That is the goal. It's Embiid a on. I was the positive everybody helping to drive an electric cart. It's going to require a lot of rapid change that we don't even conceive as possible right now. What is the problem with trying to push our technological capacities to the furthest extent? Possible would require the raising taxes there's an element where. Yeah, there people are going to have to start paying their fair share and taxes Uber specific on the tax route. You know, you look at our tax rates back in the sixties. And when you have a progressive tax rates system your tax rate. You know, let's say from zero to seventy five thousand dollars may be ten percent or fifteen percents cetera. But once you get to the tippy tops, I on your ten million dollar. Sometimes you see tax rates. Highs sixty or seventy percents that doesn't mean all ten million dollars taxed at an extremely high rate. But it means that as you climb up this ladder, you should be contributing more. So that's member custody court on sixty minutes Kedar enough talking about the payment of how you can fund the green new deal. Right. And as she rightly points out and how several times since we never asked this question when we've decided on national priorities. So whether that's the new deal it self whether that's why we're to when the nation decides that it wants to do something. We don't talk about you know, who will we have to tax and her to do this who will have to pay up. We have the resources we had our own currency. And you know, there's no reason why we should sort of hold. This conversation hostage about dealing with the existential threat of climate change to these sort of parochial concerns about the deficit, and the sort of strict ideas, what's also worth bringing up is that, you know, this conversation has never had in in relief to the massive amount of costs that climate change will bring about if we don't do anything about it, which national climate assessment report has said, you know, could be up into the trillions of dollars United States one of the most vulnerable countries to climate change. And so I think that really has to be a part of the conversation is not sort of how this cost us now. But how much will it cost? We don't do anything about. When we're gonna leave it there for now as an Arctic chill descends on the mid west. I thank you so much Kedar enough fellow at the type media center, contributing writer to intercept and Jack van will link to her late of space at the intercept the green new deal takes its first congressional baby step is Pelosi mocks green dream, or whatever the says democracy now democracy now dot org. Warren piece report, I made me Goodman, as we end today's show with the ongoing crisis of family separation at the border after officials at a congressional hearing Thursday did not dispute that there may be thousands more missing kids who are separated from their parents than originally reported the hearing by the house energy and commerce subcommittee on oversight and investigations was meant to investigate the role of the department of health and human services in carrying out Trump zero tolerance policy that led to the separation of thousands of children from their parents at the US border. It revealed a chaotic system without adequate measures taken to track family units, and that health and Human Services Secretary Alex's are may not have even known about this urines, install the zero tolerance policy before it went into effect. This is Republican congress member Brett Guthrie of Kentucky questioning commander Jonathan white. Formerly of the HHS office of refugee resettlement during Thursday's hearing. Devise deal or DHS to implement the policy of zero tolerance if they had asked neither Reiner any career person in our would ever have supported such a policy proposal Democratic Congress member Jan Schakowsky of Illinois. Also question commander Jonathan white again, formerly of the HSS office of refugee resettlement. Does anyone know how many are still separated from their parents? Nobody knows. And now, we know that those in our custody that there is no way to know. How to divide out those children that have been separated? Is that right commander, ma'am? No. I want to be very clear children in our custody. Children who have been in our custody who were in or custody on the twenty sixth of June. We have laboriously worked to identify. I understand those who exited or custody because HHS okay, not received from any list or any indication of the complete set of separated children. Thank you in partnership with them. We worked hard to identify every one of those kids from those who were in care. Thank you. Yes. Ma'am. I just feel like what's been happening is more than irresponsible, and and sloppy. But I really think that what we're talking about is state sponsored child abuse. And I would go as far as to say kidnapping. That is state sponsor child abuse and kidnapping of children said Democratic Congress member Jan Schakowsky questioning commander Jonathan white. Well for more we're joined by legal aren't pity director of the immigrants rights project lawyer on the us national challenge to the Trump administration's family separation practice he was there yesterday. He testified before congress. Welcome back to democracy. Thanks for flying in early this morning. What are we talking about here at this point? The Trump administration is admitting that there are thousands more children. They don't even know what happened to them. But we're separated from their parents. So these are remarkable developments one year into the litigation, and we're still getting bombshells an internal report by HHS said there may have been more. They can't put a number on it. Because no one has tracked the kids HHS at the hearing yesterday did not dispute that there may be thousands. But says would take too long to try and find the children because they'd have to go through individual files. They had no tracking system. So they know the kids were given to sponsors that could mean anything from foster care to a parent to a relative to a distant relative. We wanna make sure that these kids are, okay. And that they can get back with their parent. If that's what the family wants HHS HSA that would take. Too long. We don't wanna do it in a court order. So we are going back to court and San Diego on February twenty first to seek that court order how can children have been taken that? No one has records of. I mean, I wish I had an answer for you. That's the same stunning. You know thing that would happen earlier where they admitted that they said there were twenty seven hundred kids the couldn't track him the judge that the government tracks property better than they track. These kids we thought it was over with these twenty seven hundred kids, and now it may be that there's thousands more. Of course, these kinds of hearings didn't take place before. Because Democrats were in power challenging the administration that was doing this as Schakowsky said, right, kidnapping and abuse. What did you testify yesterday? I said that there are few things that are critical for congress to try and do now one is to create funds for these families because a lot of people think well, if they're reunified that's the end of the matter, but the truth is in some ways, it's just starting the trauma is so severe that. We're medical professionals testifying with me who said that these kids may be traumatized for the rest of their life. We think congress should allocate funds to provide medical care. We also need standards going forward. The other thing that HHS did not dispute yesterday at the hearing was that there ongoing separations and what they're constantly doing. Now. They know there's a court order, so they can't just do it willy nilly, but what they're saying. Well, this parents dangerous this parents, but they're doing they're serving that unilaterally without any standards without any ability for the parent to push back. We need congress to set standards or the court to set standards. And lastly, we need these thousands of kids to be found health and Human Services Secretary. Alex czar may not have even known about the zero tolerance policy when it was instituted. I mean, that's what they testified in so commander. Why do testifying chess said they were not he was not given information about an advance. He's not sure what other information was given. And the secretary refused to show up and the chair of the committee also made clear Elson. Dow sector is our secretary, right, right? And the other thing is the committee chair asked for documents in advance of the hearing to show who knew what they didn't provide all the documents. I think the house is going to continue to seek those documents. But the other thing I would just say is putting aside whether they got a memo from the attorney general HHS knew this was happening because there were hundreds and hundreds of young kids showing that never would have shown up before. So whether or not they say, they were formerly told the new something was going on. So I mean at this point we're talking about thousands of children. Potentially. How do you find out where they are? It's going to be painstaking. But I think lives of children are at stake. We have to do it HHS admitting. Now, they have no tracking system integrated database, which is one of the things we're seeking and court, and we'll be seeking congress to be created. But they're saying they could do it. If they go through the individual files, but it's too many hours. We say you have to do it. I mean, these children's lives how can you just say it's not worth the effort so commander Jonathan white said he would have never record recommended family separation as a policy he talked about the trauma. Another revelation was that there were no standards. There are no standards in the law for when separation should occur. Right. So what is the legislation that has to pass? Now, you know, we have established in court now a standard that can be used. What commander? It was saying, well, there's no legislation setting out standards. I think it might be worth wa for congress to make clear, so it's not just a court order these standards. We want you to follow. He was pointing out that congress has never said standards, but it will be good if congress at standards, but that's no excuse for what happened because child welfare law in every state has a standard and the standard. Is you leave a child with their parent unless the parent presents a danger to the child that's not what the Trump administration was doing. They were taking children away in hopes that it would deter asylum seekers from coming country. So the fact that you're suggesting they're still doing it. Yes. So we know they're still doing do. You believe many children right now will never be reunited with their parents. And if someone is watching this if a young person is watching this, what do they do to say to let someone know they are alone, or where do they go or how do they find their parent well throughout this whole litigator in the last year? I never said I don't believe we will get the test done. And I'm going to stick to that. I am hopeful that we will reunite every child and parent who wants to be reunited, I think if there are relatives out there foster care, they ought to let people know. But ultimately, it's too big a task for just that kind of self help we need the government to give us whatever information they have. And then we will start doing what we've been doing all year, which is calling these parents and children. Do you believe Ston gillibrand lied to congress? Sorry. Nielsen the secretary. I'm not gonna characterize it. But I do not feel we've gotten the whole truth from the administration throughout the family separation policy. And I think there's bombshells still to come. I want to thank you for being with us deputy director of the CO immigrant's rights project lead lawyer for the issue us national challenge to the Trump administration's family separation. Practice democracy now has a job opening full-time one year paid news production fellowship checkout. Proce- now dot org. I made me Goodman. Thanks so much for joining us.

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Burning of Three Black Churches Serves as Reminder of Racism's Continuing Legacy

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Burning of Three Black Churches Serves as Reminder of Racism's Continuing Legacy

"WNYC studios is supported by Kerman spader. A national litigation firm representing law firms in malpractice suits ethics investigations and business matters. When the lawyer you choose matters most online at Zuckerman dot com. WNYC studios is supported by babble a European made language learning program. Babbel's ten to fifteen minute lessons, teach practical conversation in Spanish, French, German and other languages tribal for free by downloading the app or go to Babbel, B A B E L dot com. Three black churches burned in Louisiana. Are reminder that the past is not stay in the past to mystic, right? Wrist are the greatest domestic terrorist threat to American life today. And so we have to call something what it is. And that's why Tarik on this takeaway for April. Fifteenth we discussed the history of attacking black churches and the problem of domestic terrorism. Also on the show when insulin prices soar patients face tough, choices drug companies like to say that there's nothing bad in our secret deals is all good. We're all doing our best to bring the prices down my answer to that is if there's nothing bad in their open up the deals and the Trump administration's transgender military ban is in effect will hear from an active duty service member working to reverse the change. This is everyone's country. All right. Let's do this. When three historically black churches were burned in Louisiana over ten days communities across the state were reminded of the long shadow of racial terror. That is part of our nation's history these churches really around the country have really operated as the center of black life. And so when you're thinking about a way to terrorize, the black community one of the first and principal institutions that people are going to seek to terrorize to destroy historically have been the black church. Dr Abram X Kendy more from him later while no one was hurt in the attacks. A twenty one year old white man was arrested and charged with arson for the church burnings. Don't know what this young man's motive was I don't know what was in his heart. But I can't say it cannot be justified or rationalized these were evil acts. But let me be clear about this hate is not a Louisiana value, Louisiana. Governor John Bel Edwards? There. The church. Burnings are the latest examples of high profile attacks on houses of worship like the mass shootings at a Pittsburgh synagogue last fall and a historic black church in South Carolina in two thousand fifteen according to the FBI hate crimes are on the rise in the United States for the third consecutive year. I have two guests to help us understand the history of acts of hate brought against houses of worship, Dr Randall MAURICE jokes is author of faith and struggle in the lives of four African Americans and professor at university of Kansas, and Dr Abram mex- Kennedy is the author of stamp from the beginning the definitive history of racist ideas in America and the director of the anti-racist research in policy center at American University. Dr Kennedy starts by addressing the fact that thirties have said they can't say whether racism played a role in the crimes they're looking for. Obvious sort of intent they're looking for someone leaving a statement that says I hate black people or I hate this particular group in anything short of that they're going to question whether it is a racist act. And and I think that's indicative of how we understand race in general in this country and racism in instead of assessing whether racism is involved as a result of the outcome. We look for intent. And when we can't find intent we question whether racism is the cause. Dodgy jokes. You grew up in Louisiana. Tell us about what these parishes are like, well, the particular players Saint Landry's parish is the home of Zydeco music. It's a home of a large African American Catholic population as well as Baptist population. It's a interesting in intriguing mixture of Arcadian or what we call Cajun's in that region. And it's certainly was the home of slavery American slavery all of those parishes where my grandparents from nearby all of those were where enslaved Americans. Well, lived a grew up side-by-side with poor whites in their community. And Dr jokes a lot of these churches have long histories in the in their community. What role have these churches played historically for? For the community. Well, historically for the community before there was other things to do the internet television radio black churches where the center of cultural life and the center of political life and still play that role in a lesser degree. I would argue today, but but still very central to that politics would go through those searches as a way of communicating as a way of helping for people form their moral ideology in the face of ongoing racism in Louisiana in particular, Dr Kennedy, the burning of black churches is not a new phenomenon in the United States. Sadly, it has a long and painful on violent history in our country. I wonder if you could tell us a little bit about how that specific act of terror has impacted our country's history. Well, I think first and foremost to to sort of added to suggest said, these churches, I think not only in Louisiana, but put really around the country black churches have really operated at as as the center of black life and so in a community. And so when you're thinking about a way to terrorize, the black community of black local community, one of the first in principle institutions that people are going to seek to terrorize to destroy to set. Fire to historically have been the black church. And and so it's indicative or symbolic in a way of burning down the community. Now, of course, in many of these places these these communities have been resilient, and they seek to rebuild themselves through the rebuilding of those churches. I'll say it, partly I wanna take a little bit of a look at the media coverage on this because Dr. You wrote earlier this month that the media essentially after the New Zealand mosque attacks failed to identify white terrorism for what it is. Are we seeing that now? I don't think so. And I think that that is a problem. And I think this is a larger issue. It is the FBI local policing forces are even the Justice department is no longer able to deny. And in some cases, it's coming out stating that that domestic white terrorist are the greatest domestic terrorist threat to American life today and people who are mass murdering people who are who are burning down institutions who are and I mean, and and so we have to call something what it is. And and that's white terror. And I see reason why say white terror is because these people are typically terrorizing on behalf of whiteness superior whiteness that they believe is is under attack. And and this is if we don't simply call white terrorism what it is then then in a way, we're continuing to to shrug it under under. A rug as it continues to harm and terrorize people, Dr gel. Some of this is being portrayed in the media. At least an in comments by the governor specifically as a relic of a bygone era or a quote, very dark past is it in our past because it doesn't it seems to to still be very present. Well. That makes me a taco. I think this is this is a part of a larger pattern not just in Louisiana. Elsewhere. I think that there is real puffed up fear led by Whitey -letes. I'm going to argue that they lead by why delete that make working class to poor white people fear that they are somehow going to be overtaken by the mass black and Brown hordes and this triggers via racial violence. This happened at the turn of the twentieth century as well lynchings were around property issues, and somehow that poor whites and working class whites would be removed, and this was often promoted by the elites in the name of their own interest. And I I can't help but see. What comes out of the public policies in our nation's capital? The public policies particularly in Louisiana in policing policies playing the same kind of role candy. I want to bring you back in here. Because I want to take a look at some of the reaction from the press conference in Saint Landry parish last Thursday, specifically in reaction to the person who committed these crimes, let's take a listen to what the governor of Louisiana. John Bel Edwards had to say. And by the way, let's pray for Mr. Matthews and his family the God will create in him and all of us, but in him at this time, a clean heart. Well, also, take a listen to Saint Landry share of Bobby good dro- talking about his relationship with the suspect's father who is one of his deputies. He was shocked in hurt at any father would be in my heart went out to him. After we often don't hear that type of reaction. If the suspect were a person of color, am I wrong here? I don't think you're wrong. And and I think that that's I think I think we should figure out a way to be empathetic, even when someone has committed tragedies in trustees, and and mass murderers at the same time, it is painfully obvious that when when a when a black person does something far less hurtful to to a community there, or even a, you know, people of color in general, it this, far, less empathy. There's a rush to judgment. There's a rush to claim someone as as as engaged in inactive terror. There's a guilt to proven innocent. And and so I think that that is why. When we have these white suspects. Suddenly, they become human and and when there are black suspects. They are demonized as predators. And I think that we need to figure out a way to treat black people as if they're human and even figure out ways to condemn very strongly white terror, I agree with Dr Kindy in full this person did a terrorist act. No matter how much his pairs might love him, and he did this terrorist act against people's whose relate relations loved them too. And that's the unfortunate side of those comments. And and not being hard headed no-one said those forgiving and kind words win a young black man was shot at a convenient. Store biting brooch, Louisiana. And that's the hypocrisy of the whole thing. Dr candy would you like to weigh in on that? Yeah. I, you know, I think that at some point we as a nation are going to have to realize on and I should say specifically people who who's racist, ideas, color crime and terror black and Brown are going to have to realize that that their lives are in danger by people who are most likely to be endanger as it relates to terrorism by people who happen to be white or we're going to have to say that people of color are not American because people only imagine that people of color are being targeted by these people. When in fact, it's white people to Dr Abram X candy is the author of stamps from the beginning, the definitive history of racist ideas in America, and the director of the anti-racist research Impala. Ac- center at American University. Dr candy, thanks for being with us. Thank you for having. And Dr Randall MAURICE jokes is author of faith and struggle in the lives of four African Americans and professor at the university of Kansas. Thanks for being with us. Dr jokes. Thank you for having. Nearly one in ten Americans has diabetes. That's more than thirty million. People many who rely on insulin to survive when insulin was patented a century ago it sold for a dollar a vial. And that's because the scientists who discovered it wanted to keep the drug affordable. But today a single vial of insulin can cost as much as fifteen hundred dollars. How did we get here? That's what lawmakers wanted to know in a hearing last week. Here's what Illinois democratic Representative. Jan Schakowsky said to executives from the top three pharmaceutical companies who make insulin. We know that a huge number of people are not taking the insulin that they need because they can't afford it. So then they get sick. They get sicker. And maybe they died because of it. I don't know how you people sleep at night. But for all the outrage, even temporary price reductions haven't stuck. Robin Feldman is a law professor at UC Hastings and the author of drugs money and secret hand, shakes the unstoppable growth of prescription drug prices. So the price of insulin has has risen enormously in the past decade, you have also seen improvements in the drug itself. New methods of delivery new new ways to try to use insulin that have certain value. The question is is that value worth what what people are paying for it? The initial invention of the core. Chemical for insulin happened more than one hundred years ago. And if you look at the top insulin makers throughout the country, they have managed to pile protections onto their drugs over and over again. So some of them as piled as many as fifty five protections. That's what blocks cheaper drugs from competing and getting into the market. What about a generic option for insulin? I mean isn't insulin at this point given the percentage. Of Americans that have type one or type two diabetes. Can't this be considered a medication that needs? Generic option generics. Are the best hope for competition in the market. That's how the system is post to be designed we expect the pharmaceutical companies to get a handsome reward when they invent something. But after a period of time generic should come in and drive the price down if the deals blocked generics. From getting traction with any of the various middle players. Their drugs aren't going to get on the shelves. It's no good. If you develop a drug, and it's not being offered to people. Let's talk a little bit about pharmacy benefit managers or otherwise known as P B M's who are they? And how do they affect the cost of insulin PBS or the middle players the supposed to be working on behalf of the health plan that is supposed to be working for you and me the health plans clients and their job is to negotiate. Discounts with the drug companies. And then also to help the plan set the terms on which you and I can access the drugs and how much we will get reimbursed for that. So the system is supposed to be set up. So that the PBS middle players are getting a good deal. But that's not how it's happened. Instead, the drug companies have turned this system on its head and figured out how to give lots of very attractive payments to the middle players in exchange for middle players preferencing, the more expensive drugs, obviously, we're talking about this given the congressional hearings that are happening right now about insulin pricing. What's happened so far there? I mean has congress learned anything from these hearings my sense in both was that the executives escaped pretty much unscathed it use a complex area. Sometimes the terms they wave in front of of senators are a hundred percent, accurate and not helpful. The things that are going on secret deals the ways in which this is structured are very bad for consumers, and for you and me now, the the PB M's and the drug companies like to say that there's nothing bad in our secret deals is all good. We're all doing our best to bring the prices down my answer to that is if there's nothing bad in their opened up the deals, let the government see them let the press see them if there's nothing behind the curtain opened the curtain. But is there any federal agency that is charged with limiting or or overseeing these drug companies and what they do. There is no federal agency that does this and the different federal agencies involved. Nobody has the right mandate to get us. What we need. So at the patent trademark office. The the question is just is this different. And not is this any better doesn't really have therapeutic value just as it is it different in some way at the FDA the question. His safety and efficacy. That's a very important question. But they're not asking whether the drugs that are coming out and that we're getting pushed into in. This system are actually any better for patients or good value. At all there's nothing set up to watch out for your interests in mind. I do believe by the way that we do markets well in this country and that a good injection of competition. So that drug companies are exposed to market forces would go along way. But the government can't keep putting its thumb on the scale and helping out the more expensive medications. Well, how can we expect the government to create policies or even during these hearings? How can we expect to trust them if the to make decisions on behalf of Americans versus their own private interests? It's a difficult question. The pharmaceutical industry is an extraordinarily powerful lobby farm industry spent two hundred seventy million dollars last year lobbying, and I believe they have. One and a half lobbyists per member of congress. That's a lot of power out there. However, so many people are upset and frightened about access to life saving medications. Their voices may be heard we have seen some price. Reductions from some insulin manufacturers, Robin, so far do you expect that others will follow suit? So I am heartened to see prices come down. The question is what's going to keep this what's going to to to make it long term accompany can decide for public relations views that it would be good to have lower prices right now in the heat is on. And then we'll let them slide up when when congress gets tired of this and goes on to something else. Robin Feldman is a professor of law at UC Hastings and the author of drugs money and secret handshakes, thanks for joining us. Robyn, thank you for having me. So if you need to use insulin. How much does it cost you every month? If you've seen the price go up. How are you managing from Redmond Oregon because the Mayan coin could almost be a rent payment and the smaller city, I trouble every month to afford it. And sometimes I even have to ration it. This is Reverend nand Baker. I live in Dallas. And I've seen them insulin. Dependent diabetics recording years, I know to people who cut their dosages because they could not afford there in one one was hospitalized. But recovered the other had both feet amputated. Hi, my name's Tony my wife, and I live in Florida or insulin for three months ply gone from under just forty dollars or so to about one hundred give us a call and share your story at eight seven seven eight my take. K U podcast person. Amy Walter here host of politics with Amy Walter from the takeaway every week. I'll take you beyond the headlines for a deeper understanding of how Washington works who's pulling the levers of power in how it all impacts you. I hope you'll check it out. Just search for politics with Amy Walter in your podcast app. And subscribe, happy listening. This is the takeaway with tansy Vega. On friday. The Trump administration officially barred openly transgender people from enlisting in the military under the gender they identify with the policy went into effect after the supreme court lifted a final district Gordon junction against the ban last month. And if you thought the band was already in place, that's because all of this started back on July twenty six two thousand seventeen in a series of tweets from President Trump with my generals and military experts. Lease be advised United States government will not accept or allow transgender people from serving any capacity in the US military. Our military cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail. Although the president claimed to have made the decision after consulting with his generals and military experts. His tweets reportedly caught several high ranking officials off guard several lawsuits against the policy are still making their way through the courts. But for now, the transgender military ban is a reality. This is don't ask don't tell for transgender troops. That's Aaron Belkin the director of the palm center a research institute that studies LGBT military service after the repeal of don't ask don't tell in twenty eleven. The palm center conducted a study looking at how that change impacted military readiness. We used ten different research methodologies observations with units in the field interviews with generals, and admirals who had predicted the sky would fall statistical analysis survey data so try to figure out if repeal had caused any negative consequences, and we couldn't find any. Now that transgender servicemembers are once again unable to openly enlist or transition while serving Belkin says that's likely to create a more hostile work environment for LGBT troops. But the bottom line for Belkin and other LGBT advocates is that this policy change underscores how the Trump administration views transgender people the regulations refer to the need to undergo gender transition as a quote, unquote deficiency and classify gendered as for you along with bed-wetting unbelievably in a group of congenital and developmental, quote, unquote defects, and this is so appalling that the American Medical Association issued scathing statements saying that it is not appropriate for government entities to stigmatize transgender people in this way. Trans service members are not a detriment to our units where not a burden on our medical system. We are completely in one hundred percent deployable just like any other servicemember Blake dream in is an active duty navy Lieutenant Commander and president of servicemembers partners and allies for respect and tolerance for all Sparta as it's called is an advocacy organization focused on transgender military service, and he began his gender transition in two thousand thirteen several years before transgender people were first allowed to serve openly. I was stationed on a submarine at the time and still had two deployments under me and having to do that do life thing. Definitely added a bit of stress to my already stressful job. But at the same time took away part of what was holding me back as a complete officer. And so that's that's what I did. And while I can. To maintain the fact that I don't think anybody knew there were definitely suspicions. But at the time nobody cared. They cared that they had food on the table, and they could fix their stuff. So that I could stand watch before you transitioned. He were serving as a woman in the military, and I'm wondering were their friends colleagues of yours who were concerned on your behalf, or what might happen when you decided to make the choice to transition. The only people that were concerned really were my parents. My mother was actually more concerned on how it was going to affect my career than my transitioning. My colleagues didn't even notice I'm the same person that they had beforehand. I mean, I integrated women on submarines and this. This wasn't a big deal to them. It was it was simply another sailor showing up doing their Qualls and doing their jobs. And that's that's exactly what I did. When the Pentagon was considering a rule. Change allowing transgender people to serve openly you were part of those discussions. What were those like? Well, a lot of it was many of our senior leaders had never met a transgender person much less a transgender servicemembers. So it was putting forth people who are already transitioning already doing the job and showing them and proving to them that we aren't a detriment to anyone's unit cohesion were continuing to do the job. It's not something that's going to keep us from deploying. We are still deploying. And so it was destroying those myths and putting the right image in front of people when President Trump announced that he was going to ban transgender people from serving openly in the military. What was your initial reaction to that? Well, my initial reaction was was definitely a bit of shock. But at the same time as the president of Sparta, I have eight hundred servicemembers that are looking to me to tell them how to move forward. And so can't stay there. Very long. So I had to put my initial feelings beside and and get to work to making sure that we rather than defend transgender service is to just show people what trend service looks like. And to make sure that we emphasize that this is about keeping the best and the brightest and not about some sort of social experiment as much as people would like to say that what is the new rule as you understand it and tell me a little bit about the impact that this will have on transgender servicemembers right now. So the new rule basically creates two classes of transgender servicemembers. You have the first that come under a grandfather clause where they will be allowed to continue to complete their transitions and serve in their true genders. And then you have a second group that while they'll be able to supposedly identify as transgender. They will not be. Able to serve as their true gender or access that medical care to transition. So the impact becomes again, somebody going back to living two lives similar to under. Don't ask don't tell where people had to hide the fact that they were gay. They could be gay. But they couldn't tell anybody that they were gay this in general, someone can tell you that they're transgender, but the can't transition so instead of hiding their life. They're forcing them to live in a in a situation that is treatable how are people understanding the policy change, which just started on Friday will right now we're going to see a lot of confusion because it creates two different sections of people. There's gonna be some confusion regarding with commanders with who's exempt in who's not and whether or not that exemption actually exists and those types of things so I expect the next ninety to one hundred twenty days. Will be getting a lot of phone calls with commanders moving forward with displinary or administrative actions based on their misunderstanding of policy. I hope that's not the case. But I do believe that that will be the case simply because it does create confusion. One of our producers spoke to Aaron Belkin of the palm center who called this new policy. Don't ask don't tell for transgender troops. And he also explained how policy like this creates a hostile work environment for transgender servicemembers who aren't publicly out. Let's take a listen to what Aaron had to say. The problem when you have a ban in effect is that if someone is harassed the can't say, hey, that's unprofessional conduct. Because everybody knows that if the perpetrator decides to make an issue of it. They can go to the commander and say, I think this person is gay or I think this person is transgender and then the victim of the harassment is subject to discipline and even subject to being fired from the. -tary like what what are your thoughts on that? I have a little bit of a different take in the fact that the DOD e oh policies haven't changed gender identity for DOD is still a covered aspect of the harassment thing. So they haven't changed that now whether or not anyone's going to pay attention to that or has paid attention to it so far is entirely different. I do think that there will be situations where someone will create that hostile work environment and commanders won't wanna touch it. It's not a matter of them not thinking that equal opportunities not covered or doesn't create a hostile work environment. But they're going to consider it a situation where well it's better if that person goes away, and that that will happen. Like, do you expect transgender servicemembers will leave the military because of this ban? We've already seen some servicemembers reaching out saying that they don't intend to reenlist or they're gonna look for way to get out because they don't want to serve in the military that doesn't support them. And when you have less than one percent of the nation already volunteering. You can't afford to lose the best and the brightest that want to serve their country. So I think I think that is an impact in and of itself, we're already seeing that recruiting levels are hard to reach. And as I said in in other places, this is everyone's country and the service of our servicemembers needs to reflect that of all of the people who we represent Blake dream in. It's an active duty navy Lieutenant Commander. Thank you. Blink. Thank you. And that's our show for today. If you have any thoughts for us, you can give us a call at eight seven seven might take or you can reach us on Twitter at the takeaway. I'm tansy Vega. This is the takeaway, and thanks so much for listening.

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DNB: Is Trump's Coronavirus Executive Order Truly America First?, The Vaccine Czar Has No Answers, & Did Staten Island Bar Owner Get Bird-Dogged? (12.7.20)

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DNB: Is Trump's Coronavirus Executive Order Truly America First?, The Vaccine Czar Has No Answers, & Did Staten Island Bar Owner Get Bird-Dogged? (12.7.20)

"Welcome to the dr thirty minutes forty five commercial free minutes patrons. Jam packed with news of the day from a perspective of truth. Liberty and justice. This is monica parenthesis. I'm brad basically our top story just across the wire is the headline. Listen to this headline listen. Closely trump to sign corona virus vaccine executive order prioritizing americans over foreign nations order reemphasize. The trump administration's america first approach. So he's gonna sign executive order that prioritizes americans so when you go and read the article it says anybody who sounds good. Anybody who wants the vaccine trump wants to make sure that you get it. So i immediately before i even finish. The article tweeted out. This is straight outta event one where they say. We have to prioritize. Rich nations have to subsidize and prioritize the poor nations. That's like the number one thing and all sorts of things went through my head. One is this. Week are the pfizer and madonna one day. Fda hearings after which like the next day. They're gonna start giving these vaccines now. These are what. I call the rich people's vaccines the western vaccines the astrazeneca oxford vaccine which is a more dna based than rna. Base that is already slated for the global south poor countries stuff like that. So by prioritizing the america want america first and these are the things that are going to get approved here. I you automatically get americans to be the experimental group for the rn. A and as a default probably you know. that's how i saw. This unrolling is that this was a setup to continue this bifurcation of the groups. I think they're going to be three or four groups. It's going to be the arna based western world. It's going to be the global south getting the dna one. It's going to get the anti vaxxers who won't have anything. And then you have the sputnik five. Which is the conventional vaccine out of russia. So they're gonna have like a billion people each a lot of data to analyze for sure going to get a lot of data and it's experimental and so in this article though so i had just. I had what i tweeted. Was i said oh aid around the world a foregone conclusion. The question is only when and then i said you know what did churchill say. We're just arguing about the price you know. He says now that you know this joke about churchill saying to this this broad hey i want you to come upstairs with me. You know have a little role and she said no. What are you take before a horror. Whatever and he said to her. Well i was gonna leave you my entire fortune for one night. And she was like well in that case and he said all right now that we've established that you're a whore. Let's negotiate the price. So you stipulate certain things if you frame things at a certain way. So when i got to the bottom of the article it says the order will also be accompanied by a framework for international access to the covid nineteen vaccines which will provide guidelines for how. Us aid human health health and human services. The export import bank and the us international development finance corp interacts with foreign countries to bring an end to the coronavirus pandemic. So this executive order isn't so much about america. I it's it is more about. I think the more significant thing which i hashtag straight out of eventual one that this is about committing the us their money their distribution. All of this of does on the ground out there front organization that's in foreign countries. According to all everything. I've ever read those. They are making a very clear. They are following through on one of the main calls to action from events who won the coronavirus simulation ruled out by the world economic forum. Johns hopkins and bill and melinda gates in october of twenty nine thousand nine hundred before the wuhan virus was even a phrase in trump's speeches. Well it's frequently in his speeches nowadays to as it's getting more and more penned on china's deville in the that out this vaccine has not been studied like they typically do studies. I know we've talked about this but it really is important to emphasize you want to get as much information as you can before you consider taking it because there is a pressure campaign a national worldwide pressure campaign trying to get people to want to take this vaccine. Despite the fact that there are questions being raised by the scientists themselves. That are involved. I can tell you about dr sue. Lianis interview jake tapper. If you like some of the questions that he answered yeah. And i do want to recommend to people that i believe. It is accessible to the general public hearing or certainly. There's going to be a lot of information coming out of the hearing december tenth by the fda for the pfizer one vaccine and the and the madonna hearing is december seventeenth. So we can get some information or probably not. It's probably not going to be a lot of information which will be very telling. Also what's up guys. Such uncertainty in the world right now. The best way to have true security is by growing your own food and neighbor stephen smyrna georgia they got. You covered the garden supplies. Vegetable plants chickenfeed bird feed farm supply. Everything you're gardner. Farm needs even host a farmer's market on saturdays from ten. Am to four pm and right now for propaganda report listeners. Only they're offering ten percent of all online purchases at neighbors speed and see dot com just type in coupon code prop pr opel caps. Check out. And if you have any questions give them a call at six seven eight six five three eight eight three eight checkout neighbors. Y'all get somebody in your family or friend Winter cpac elton. More sustainable life. I did want to add one other thing about the vaccines. Is that thomas. Massie tweeted an article about how they're recommending that. If you get the vaccine you wait two months to get pregnant which he points at ten million babies are born worldwide. So that's just twenty million people right off and said what if what if people don't listen to that. I would add so like what happens. Why are they saying that. What do they know what do they think. And i would add something. I saw coming when they were talking. About the zeke virus in brazil that was so detrimental for pregnant women. And i knew that it was a push for abortion birth control and didn't the pope himself instead of saying which is what the pope's line should be abstain. He said this is an opportunity. Something about allowing catholics birth control. Which is. I'm not a advocating or denouncing it. But his job is to toe the party line i would think and then these. These things are always used as excuses for population reduction. Birth control in my opinion is that two months after the first round of the vaccine or the second round. I don't know but also from what you've told me what i read myself. I wouldn't think anybody. After the first one they are saying the experts are saying they people will say that the vaccine gave them cove it so if all you have covert i imagine you my back off absolutely. And that's why they're doing this campaign right now to normalize these side effects the scientists. Going around saying you're gonna feel this be you need to be prepared for it like you said. It could be worse for the second round of shots. There's even some concern about it to elderly people expressed by some doctors and scientists. Even though those most vulnerable people are the ones. They're saying they're going to give it to i along with frontline. Workers and many frontline workers have come out and said that they are very skeptical of taking this vaccine themselves. In fact the percentage of americans this is in a recent poll from pew research intent on getting the covid nineteen vaccine rises to sixty percent as confidence in the research has grown but still about two in ten or pretty certain. They won't get the vaccine even if they do get more information. Sixty percent is pretty high. That's why they're putting all this stuff out there. They're hitting people all angles to try and raise that number up. They want to get to seventy eighty percent of the population. Believe i've always been worried about old people. Because when i read this about this patent i think i read to you. It's page number. And everything from the book. The last circle by sherry more and it said it describes dna type one. Which isn't the the fire. The astrazeneca one is is gene transaction or induction necessarily where the produces the virus itself. It's a little. It's it's questionable whether it will happen intentionally or accidentally or any of that so there's a spectrum of how the genetic one's work but when i read the patent for one of those dna virus type vaccines as a bio weapon. It came with an antidote to help your body. Create the bodies. Now this is depending on your immune system to react to it. And i think when somebody's sick i don't think they give people vaccine like little kids and stuff. I don't if you come in you're sick. I don't think they give you the vaccine because they need your immune system to be healthy so to give it to all people. I seems to me very risky. And the fact that they're worried about pregnant people. I wonder if the genetic material they think that there's some influence of that. I don't know how it would cross over like that. I really don't know but this is something that's never been proven for us. So there isn't a lot of real hard data out there for us to look at. I'm curious about how people who have had passed. Immune reaction problems might be affected if they would be affected differently. Because there are a lot of people have autoimmune. Diseases is there. I think you could take it if you had that. Because it absolutely depends on doesn't even hyper stimulate your immune system like the edge of in stew in a conventional vaccine. It just demands that your body react to these proteins that your body itself has created like. That's another thing that's in new. So then that would raise concern for people who are unaware that they have an autoimmune disease. Dr monsef sui he was on the he's the operation. Warp speeds are. He was on with jake tapper and he did all the sunday shows over the weekend and tapper asked him candidly about some of the concerns. He addressed what people were were raising fears about. He said that there will be small glitches. There will be small glitches in the rollout of this vaccine. And he said that there may be some batches that don't make it on time or delayed that are not right particularly in the beginning. Oh yeah and like that makes me wonder about this temperature thing that you brought up a while ago. Ask because he did mention that. What happens if you get one of these vaccines that happens to be not at the right temperature. The fridge rated prayed should if it's done properly it in my experience with things don't come from a long line of truckers that something that has to be held at a certain temperature has a sticker on it that will turn red if the temperatures zone has been breached. So if that's on each and every box and the people are probiotics in the mail. I didn't know they were packed. In ice i just left wing there for days and they to find like oc- supposed to put this the frigerator right away. I still took them. You know whatever. There's a discussion around how to get them from the containers into the shot where it's going to be injected into the person's armed the temperature drops and seems like a lot of variables. Here that could go wrong. What you know what. The problem is to unroll on to unroll these things. Roll out these things all at once to a lot of people when it has not been thoroughly. Tested is arrested for disaster. So what you wanna do. Is you want to use my damn fish tank okay. I have stopped buying like twenty fishes sweet thing. Or if i get a new species of fish i get one i know. They don't mind the sacrifices and yes and actually got some neon tetras. I got four the other day because they were like dollar each. I throw them in there. And now there's only one because i think somebody in there is eating not so it's the didn't get twenty or get the expensive ones or whatever on your hands. Someone's gonna call fish protective services on me. I think so. You talks openly about what you do these fish to do it. No no no. They're fine dish guy. The frogs are fine. Everything that like is qualified as an animal is fine but anyway so i'm just saying what you do when you really don't know for sure. How a new organism is going to respond to a biological environment or element is take it frigging slow. Yeah especially the madonna one which is so open about the fact that the control group that got the saline had one death at fifteen thousand people. I mean it's not believable to me that the risk of rolling that out and mass after one day of fda scrutiny. And i'm not an advocate of regulations. But they are there. I mean they're they're if we're seven been tried before the spread this this widespread and it's there's no public appear reviewed study of the final analysis. And here's the thing. They're spending our money on it. They are putting restrictions on our civil liberties which will be contingent on our reactions. That and their financing spreading it around the world. So if you're going to have the government to all of that stuff then either. It's competent to do it or it's not competent to do it if you could argue that it was competent to do it. Which i don't you would have to argue that that. Fda protocol that has been put in place to allow this kind of power spanish and over the years. Which i have always objected to have the situation they should have aware of. Cvs wants to sell you. Something and they misrepresent how safe it is or how tested they will be. Personally liable for that or corporately liable for that but that is not our system. Our system is all about the fda all that so if you're going to the libertarians live by the sword and die by the sword. You are not able. If you're going to do it one way then you you need to be consistent within your world or i will. I can fight you on your own terms with that in mind with everything you just said. 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Particularly in the beginning he was asked. Will you be able to spread the virus. Even if no longer at risk of serious illness question we've talked about before and he said we don't know yet. We may have the first answer to that question somewhere around february or march and he didn't even seem certain in giving those that timeline and that would come from the trials. Go ahead just occurred to me if this thing when they give you a pcr tests. They're just finding fragments of viruses and such much that is absolutely not not a sign of infectious disease. Viral load whatever. They are not testing for that properly yet. They tell you that you are still could be a carrier but this hour anything is creating a whole. You know like a coherent string now. It's not the whole thing but it's enough to make you sick. It's enough to make you sick. So is that then enough to be out in the world because it is different from the denatured or whatever like inactivated virus that goes along with the hyper charge your immune system. So i wonder if there's ever been a case where someone who's been with this aren a way to make a virus like that or part of a virus that those virus fragments are contagious. He doesn't know yet he doesn't have the data. And can you imagine that you get this vaccine in the coming weeks with this big pressure campaign going on people talking about businesses. Not letting you work if you don't get it not being able to travel stuff like that if you don't get it and then come february. The results in that data starts to roll in and turns out that. Maybe you do you still are a superspreader without even knowing it. Yes maybe that's the worst case scenarios just the fact that they're going to put something in you and then well we'll find out what happened to the first people that got after you've already taken it. That seems like a scary scary thing to me. He also was asked. And you just alluded to this will. How long will the immunity last. Someone's body and again he doesn't know only time will tell they don't have the data yet to answer that question where the long term effects. He doesn't know they don't have the data. He had no answers to any of the russians. Now one answer definitively and they don't have the data was consistent goto. Well he's about to get the data from this worldwide rollout of this vaccine but what they did move on to talk about. After he gave no answers to any of the concerns that were raised and only some of the concerns. that tap raised. They went on to talk about. How are we going to address this that these people were skeptics specifically talked about african american community. Wow again they are really targeting them. Well maybe the old black lives matters thing thing was about gaining trust in that community for. Perhaps he's remarried is all about the vaccine. I mean they're giving seven billion people genetic stuff like if they want to change the world. Maybe that's all they needed. Maybe that's all they need is the whole thing is the sign up. Just those shots and people's arms and that's all you need. I don't know they clearly identified. And that's the same thing with the obama phone and everything else and obama himself. I mean you are because remember the show in atlanta african american community atlanta. I mean they're woke old. School not woke like with the expression woke has been hijacked. No yeah you're not falling four of the constitution thumping. They know that there's a shirts this stuff. Just from their experience history. In america of of things that have been done to the after ski. Yeah among other things. You're tapper went on to talk later in the show about is dr fauci and some of these other doctors. Are they the right people to be communicating to the african american community. Of course not the need to find somebody else who can get through to them more. Who is more maybe a stacey. Abrams type something like that. And the strategy. One of the strategies was revealed a little bit deeper on brian. Stelter is reliable sources most unreliable source on television. Where stelter pose the question. What can journalists do to help get through to people. And then he showed images of in the hospital of death and dying to dramatic music bodybags people's feet being zipped up inside the body bags talked about how journalists want more access to the inside of hospitals. Can you imagine that journalists flooding out through the hospitals getting the most dramatic footage cutting it out of context trying to present this. What a master atrocity propaganda he even quoted joseph stalin and he said that joseph stalin said this one death is a tragedy a million is a statistic. What can we do to help. The public overcome this psychic numbing which is when individuals tend to withdraw their attention from these these traumatic events and future threats. Because they're not seeing. They're getting the statistics of so. How can we make them feel the pain. And he brought on a grief expert who said this grief witnessed people need to absorb enough of this tragedy tragedy so that it directs their behaviour. Dude there this this and if this were in private it would be an explosive conspiracy. Expose video that we cover on rock vin it over there. Just doing it publicly. They're just they're just openly advocating brainwashing. And they do not care. Listen to this. The city propagated. Absolutely right david. Kessler this grief expert. He said it was sad. I was watching doctor on tv talking about how everyone gets to make their own decision. We wouldn't say that about everyone on a plane if everyone wanted to get up and open the door now. I don't have to tell you or anyone. Listening at the news is bias. All news is bias whether intentional or unintentional there's always at least some level of bias in the news that we consume and this bias does impact how we see the world. fortunately ground news is making a lot easier for us to quickly recognize this bias. Ground news is a new app that provides readers objective data about the underlying political bias. An all published news stories. Is the first ever news comparison platform. Here's how it works. Ground news collects data from over fifty thousand new sources and runs a real time media bias tracking then the coverage bias rating is visually shown alongside the story for every story. 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Judging the truth for yourself today what do you think about that reasoning that. We shouldn't be letting people make their own decisions about the coronavirus vaccine. Just like we shouldn't let people open the door on an airplane. I think facts are facts mattress. Truth and i don't even have to get into theoretical hypothetical stuff about people. Whatever being threat to you i want. I think that we have the. I think that we have the right to expect them to give us the evidence in a scientific fashion. So one final thing about that. I find it interesting to the pandemic captains to become the number one killer in america. This was also tapper announces for us just in time to use that statistic to try and scare people into getting this vaccine. They have no date on and also happens to be at christmas season. Just to lock in amazon's just just destroy all retail and restaurants. I mean if it's not obvious to people that they're just literally destroying. And i one of the first shows i ever did and the very and one of the early blog posts i ever did was about. There was just too much a possibility for a regular guy to make big money at a restaurant or for white collar chick to make big money waitressing relative to other opportunities. There was like the last straw where you didn't have just corporate wage control and i predict that i've been talking about this. Probably since. Twenty twelve that restaurants and waitressing were under attack and. I think that we're seeing that. But i want to speaking of restaurants bars remember. We talked about that. Max having the autonomous zone in staten island guy. Open the bar who losses like your license but he stopped charging people who donate to the effort. They went to the arrest of the guy. And i they let him go and now they went support. They're saying that they went to arrest him again now. The headlines on washington post is bar owner drove into officer while fleeing arrest for flouting shutdown order. Sheriff says sheriff says the story is that this guy was that the were after him. He got his car and random over to get away now what his lawyer says. And first of all this is the sheriff who and they are not responsible for law enforcement in new york. The nypd is and there are even other or law enforcement organizations. That would be a capable of enforcing those laws. But from what. I understand this. The sheriff's department is an offshoot of the new york department of finance. Which makes me think that they're there to serve stuff. But also that they were just plugged in and part of sai op at this point because with the lawyer said what this guy's lawyers said that actually happened. He said it was four minutes from start to finish from when they took this guy out of his own establishment. They said he was engaged in disorderly conduct. He's the lawyer said that it's danny has amos didn't even raises voice and they took him out and a maybe that was a well. He says there were four minutes. I don't know when they when they took him out of the bar that might have in the previous incident but what. This is a quote from the attorneys. There are four minutes from start to finish there are no ambulances no injured officer visible on the eighty percent of that time that we have in a video even though reports are that he broke to the guy both both sheriffs legs and he broke both of their legs. So it says prestige danny prestige was approached from behind by two deputies. He did not know where. We're deputies or sheriffs who came running at him while yelling prestige and one of the deputies apparently injured his as ankle in this and the guy has been getting death threats and everything so he was startled weirded at short with these these. They weren't in uniform behind him. So i don't know i think they were not in uniform but i don't know buddies. They were behind him. And i just feel like he was jan schakowsky. It sounds like it. This guy knows that he's a target. He knows that they're they're going to look for any reason to try and make him look like he's the bad guy and he seems from what i've seen to be someone who can maintain that calm in circumstance and the de blasio said there's no excuse for some bergdahl is what that's called by the way. Sorry bird dogging so says there's no excuse for someone doing something that might threaten the life of law enforcement officer and that's what he did now. I wouldn't say there's no excuse plenty crooked cops out there shaking people down this not no excuse the for yourself against a copy. Let them shoot you through victimless. They he didn't know they were confidence. Like david powell. Who was shot in his own garage in henry county to death if he would have had every right to defend himself. But this i live in question if you could actually technically call the law enforcement. I guess you could if they're serving papers but they were not supposed to be doing that. And the theme going out about this guy is his his attack on. The sheriff's is completely consistent with his disregard for human life. Wait a minute because of the coronavirus him opening up. His restaurant declared an autonomous own. And now there are protesters there like four him. And everyone's kind of like What do we do now because autonomous zones. Apparently you can protest. And you don't get covid. And he said across the tracks he is in an orange zone. Cuomo's diced everybody up into different colored zones and jason. The oranges own which is like kind of and across the tracks is a yellow zone so crossed the tracks. The bar over there can do exactly what this guy's doing like he could the way it sounded you could see the other bar out his window. It's so that one's allowed to. Yes because it's what when i was talking to alter black the other day which was a true thrill he said it's a continuity problem and there's no solution for it like at. What point do you draw a line that contradiction hypocrisy which causes that conflict. Arbitrariness is completely arbitrary. Right off this guy. I hope i worry a little bit for his safety. Especially also when you see stuff like lori lachlan. Bill cosby though they i mean. Bill cosby is a sacrificial wolf. Laurie lachlan. i don't even really think she did anything wrong. You can't count on the criminal justice system and they and you and you think that you're going to get your day in court. Almost no one ever goes to court because they threaten you with one hundred years in jail lachlan even in her statement. She wasn't saying that she was guilty. 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"Coming up on the. Us accuses Wa way of racketeering. That's the same thing. They charged Al Capone. With Three D. Printing and tens of seconds. The stuff is interesting and just got a new tech election puzzle or for us. This is the daily Tech News for Thursday February thirteenth. Twenty twenty in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and back at Studio Redwood I'm Sarah Lane from the shores of Lake Merritt. I'm Justin Robert. Young and I'm the show's producer. Roger Chain We were just talking about the weird problems that Sarah Lanes been having with her magic keyboard connectivity but also why Justin Robert Young had been training all his life to dress up as a charm. Ender the two thousand sixteen Republican National Convention. That's all part of good day. Internet become a member at Patriotair DOT COM SLASH S. Let's start with a few things you should know. A judge has ordered a temporary block on the ten billion dollar joint enterprise defense infrastructure or Djeddai Pentagon cloud contract which was awarded to Microsoft back in October now last month. Amazon filed a motion asking the court to pause Microsoft's were claiming the evaluation process contained unmistakable bias and has since asked the court for permission to depose the US President Donald Trump defense secretary mark Esper- and former Defense Secretary James Mattis Foxconn told the Taipei Stock Exchange that reports by Reuters that it would be back to eighty percent capacity in mainland China by March. We're not factual. Meanwhile Nikkei Asian reviews a source said that it will take one to two months for Foxconn to resume manufacturing in a related note. Apple will reopen five stores in Beijing. Friday February fourteenth with reduced hours apple stores in Shanghai Shinzan remained shut WIFI six. E is the name for eight. Oh two eleven x operation in the six Gigahertz band that gives you more than two gigabits per second speeds. Thursday broadcom announced the forty-three eighty nine client. Wi Fi sixty chipset available for next generation smartphones Lower Power Consumption Multi Radio Bluetooth five-point or support to improve audio performance and range so to look for smartphones later this year with broadcom chipsets that offer Faster Wifi and Better Bluetooth and also look for Qualcomm to release. Its wifi six chips. That's pretty soon. Us Senator Kirsten Gillibrand is the latest legislature to propose a National Law on digital privacy. Her bill proposes a new federal agency. To Enforce Consumer Privacy Rights Online. It would not preempt state laws meaning that it would not create national standards for privacy in the US it's similar to proposals from US representatives and as shoe and Zoe lofgren as well as well as from US senator. Maria Cantwell a bipartisan proposal from representatives Jan Schakowsky and Cathy mcmorris. Rogers don't include state preemption and Uber's testing an option to let you book arrived by phone in Arizona by dialing one eight three three use uber. I want to see a TV commercial for this right. Now it's meant for people who you know not comfortable with smartphones. Maybe they're older operator. Gives them a price estimate and order a car based on their details and then text them information about the car and driver so person calling does have to have text Messaging Uber? Stores your payment data the same way it would through the APP all right. Let's talk a little bit about aim. Nother Senate proposal. What's this one about Justin Well Tom? Us Senators Cory Booker and Jeff. Merkley proposed the ethical use of artificial intelligence act Wednesday. That would stop the use of facial recognition without a warrant by federal agencies government employees and law enforcement until eight thirteen member congressional commission can recommend guidelines and place limits on the use of the technology. Yeah this is. This is something that shouldn't surprise people with all the furor over facial recognition but even if it is a political play it does seem to me to be a fairly reasonable writing of it saying you know what. Let's just put a pause on federal use until we figure this out. Let's set up commission. We'll have different people be able to nominate people for the congressional commissions that we try to get a lot of different viewpoints on this and then figure out what the rules of the road should be. One of the things people are taking issue with is they did carve out an exception in this proposal for USA facial recognition with a warrant. They're saying if you have a warranties facial recognition than you can so that cuts out on it being used for for Leeds. Unless you're really serious you have to go to a judge and get a warrant some people say. Yeah but it's still not good enough even for that. Depends on where he said. Yeah obviously there is a lot of discussion and I'm glad that this is happening out in the open so as much as my knee jerk reaction to something like this is to say. Wait a minute. Something's in the news a please do not stand between this story and senators who want airtime as they will trample you but I do think there is a good public conversation that needs to be had about this and even if it's ultimately ineffectual at least it is something that we're bringing up here and folks who are listening can talk to with their friends and family. Yeah and I guess the question at this point is I mean. Where does it go? It doesn't sound as you said. Tom Fairly measured no no huge red flags but does go anywhere. Yeah what does the commission come up with? Does that proposal go forward? Part of the reason you put a pause on it though is there will be pressure from law enforcement and other agencies to want to use it. So that'll keep it going forward what they decide if this bill even gets approved which it may not as a whole different thing. Well as we reported on Wednesday's show Mobile World Congress was canceled because the G. S. A. Founded impossible to put the show on despite health officials not requiring to actually be cancelled. Most big names had pulled out already leaving smaller companies without anything for the money that they spent in preparation and without the chance to make contacts and build awareness for their products by a lot of people go to trade shows. In addition many companies are facing other problems related to the Chinese Corona virus which has shut down factories in China. Meaning parts for their products are also delayed. Firms of all sizes are looking for alternate ways to make announcements and build relationships including more smaller trips and meetings and independent press conferences. Now I guess the question is now even though the GSA says it will hold the show next year. We'll some companies figure. We got through it. Okay maybe we don't need to go. Yeah that's the dangerous thing right as a lot of people think they have to go to something until they don't go and then realize wait a minute. I mean as a CEO veteran. I've never been to WNYC. But I can tell you I mean a lot of work does not get done it ed. Various trade shows. I'M GONNA go ahead and guess that a lot of trade shows are that way. Schmoozing isn't always just of time. There is a lot of business being done but I bet a lot of companies who think we have to be there? We'll figure well are alternate solutions. Ended up being more fruitful for us in the end. Yeah I don't think the the issue is necessarily them not going but spending the kind of money that they would normally do too big the bid to be the big fish at a conference like that does potentially take a hit when you go without it and everything's kind of because I do agree with Sarah that a lot of what you get out of here is just having all the players in one space where you can trade information build relationships or make deals but maybe buying that gigantic booth Different story maybe taking everybody out for those a big expensive A curated experiences. Maybe not so necessarily and it's also hard on the smaller companies with a lot of the big companies pulling out before they even cancelled it. It was going to be more difficult for the smaller companies. Who were still going to go to to find the kind of eyeballs and years that they would want but if they can get it from the press if they could make some deals with other small companies. It could have been worthwhile now. They're going to have to figure out okay. Can we just spend a lot more money? Probably flying around two meetings in Europe and North America in China to to get our message out there and take meetings. It doesn't have the efficiency of just walking around in a conference and being able to meet up with people that maybe you wouldn't even met otherwise and and striking deals that. That's what the value of a conferences is those serendipitous things and you can't really replace those whether it's worth that time and expense though we will now have an AB test for attendees mobile regards to figure that out the US filed a superseding indictment against Wa wa and it's CFO among zoo among Guangzhou of courses in Vancouver under house arrest while she awaits extradition decision by the Canadian courts But this supersedes previous indictments it charges wall way multiple versions of always business and monk Longzhu with conspiring to violate the racketeer influenced and corrupt organizations. Act Rico Act and conspiring to steal trade secrets. It also contains new allegations regarding violations of sanctions against North Korea. And Iran. Those were some of the original indictments against Mungu among the allegations are using confidentiality agreements with US companies to obtain things like router source code in other words. You strike a deal say yes. We'll keep this confidential. You look at the router source code and then you misappropriate that And put it in your own property without permission. The indictment lists other concrete examples like distributing confidential slide decks to the engineers. You meet with a company under a confidentiality agreement. Nda you're not supposed to take that slide deck can pass it around. The rest of the company will always accused of doing that There's another example of someone at a trade show in Chicago with a badge that spelled y way backwards as their name being caught after hours opening up routers from the competition and taking pictures of the interior other charges involved just lying to federal investigators hiding employment status saying no. We're not employee away when they actually are I mean this has to go to trial these accusations. They haven't been proved But this is a different kettle of fish than the back door accusations because we can see exactly what they're accusing. We can see evidence and it's going to be going to court. There's enough here to make me think like this is just an actual case that the US wants to file because they've discovered wrongdoing. But just in there is also a political aspect of this with the China trade deals going without a doubt and real quick. Just so everybody understands when you hear the term Rico if it sounds familiar it's because this is the tool that law enforcement often uses for organized crime drug dealers or mafiose. If you can't catch him on the dealing you catch him on the racketeering well yeah and you can prove by way of actions that spider outside of the actual person that you are looking to bring charges against you can use those other crimes to charge the central person. But you're right Tom. This is obviously in the large very complicated very personal at times negotiation of this trade deal we already have a phase one that has done between the Chinese government and the United States government but phase. Two which is often thought to be the far more trickier one involves at the top line. Trade secrets which China has been accused by many many companies of violating largely because America goes to China to manufacture so many products. But this is something that is even beyond that they are not alleging that a while way was taking advantage of Chinese side manufacturing. They're saying that even beyond that these were crimes that were being committed on American soil. That that they are coming back against them for and we're not going to see except for. Maybe IF CANADA GREECE TO EXTRADITE WE'RE NOT GONNA see most wise officials brought into the US for this What I'm curious about is whether this can or will be used in the negotiations if they ended up dropping these charges in exchange for a trade deal. Or if this is just a solid thing to say. Look we're going to prosecute this no matter what you WanNa stop doing this in the future. If you WANNA get a trade deal from us. Yeah I think part of me says this is them saying look we're GONNA start enforcing the rules. And so we can create new rules going forward so this is easier. And maybe we can have an intermediary phase where we believe. These things are happening. And you're going to have to actually respond to us or this is going to be the thing that happens. But we're not. I mean who knows whether or not they wipe away this sin when they start creating a new a new set of rules. So we'll definitely want to keep an eye on you know Tom last week. We talked about the Jalopy Nick Report. That a man name. Alec brought bought a used Tesla that he thought had enhanced autopilot and full self driving features only to find out that removed those features during an audit that showed he had not paid for the package which of course he hadn't the original owner had that led to questions about whether Tesla's trying was tying packages to the original owner. Well Monday Alex. Posted on Tesla Motor Club Dot com. That everything is back to normal. He has also offered act as a go-between with Tesla's experienced team for others who might have the same issue. Tesla does these audits in order to correct for people who have been given the package without paying by mistake which has happened or war. Who Modified to get the package without paying which has also happened. Tesla has not made a public statement on the issue or clarified its policy on the transfer of packages in used cars. When I saw the headline that he got his autopilot back. I'm like Oh thank. Goodness Tesla is admitting this was a mistake. And they're giving it back to them. Once I read in that it was just Alex saying hey I got it back. I have the secret phone number. If anybody wants it and Tesla's not saying anything in public. I got less happy about the outcome of this because I still believe what happened is Tesla is trying to stop a mistakes that they have made and militias actors. Who are modifying without permission from getting these packages and aren't accounting for the fact that used car sales happen because they haven't happened historically a lot with Tesla and they just caught out on this. Why they're not coming out. And saying that is evidence of disorganization. I think. Yeah I mean the Tesla already got their money from the original owner so I can't see a scenario where the company says. Nah It just going to have to be original owner and if you pay for something that you didn't pay extra for the package even though we already got the money we want it twice and you won't get it otherwise we'll take it out of your car. That would be like you know if accompanied said. Sarah can't have air conditioning. Because she didn't get like the cool package used car. Because I bought a used car I mean. I know that you know software is not the same as you know an AC unit. But it's the same idea I think has probably they're trying to figure out. Okay how do we continue to make sure that we're not giving people software packages that they didn't pay for and continue to deal with the fact that people play around with systems to try to get stuff for free? You'RE NOT GONNA be able to have much control over that US car market. You've got your money. The the one thing that they do need to clarify on this. Is that the. The price of that car is going to be determined by the features. And so if they're going to say no no. No no we are doing this as a service and you pay for it each time that there is a new owner then that car is going to sell different as a used car then it would be without it so there is a value for. Tesla at a certain point if they do want to go to a no every new user has to pay the pay the toll on this they. They need to clarify going forward. But this to me says without saying that no once it's turned on its turned on sell us carper more because of it. I'm imagining a PR manager. Talking to someone saying okay but what's our policy. What can I tell people when I and they're like you can't tell them anything? We don't have a policy. We really should create meeting four. Pm Everybody. Scientists at Switzerland's F pl have developed three d printer that can build an entire object at once in seconds rather than building it layer by layer which obviously takes a lot longer than that. The printer shines a laser on a liquid photosensitive Photosensitive resin either biofuel or liquid plastic GEL. Sorry that's my fault Bio Gel. I Guess Gel infused Naggus not from multiple angles and then an algorithm guides the laser to create a precise version of three D. MODEL. It can make two centimeter structures at eighty micrometer. Precisions right now. The team thinks it's capable of up to fifteen centimeters per didn't can be done inside sealed sterile containers as well which is useful for medical applications and the like a company called readily three D has also been created to mark. The system was pretty impressive. This peer reviewed in nature. It's it's got a company they're going to bring this to market. It's very small. I get to centimeters. You're not making all you know any Lego toys for your kids with this but Part Heart Valve. Maybe especially if they get it up to fifteen centimeters. I mean it's impressive. How fast the stuff prince in this machine? Because it's just a shooting into a liquid and creating the solid object. It's almost like a replicator right except the liquid materials already there. It's not appearing out of anywhere. Yeah when you when you hear about this you go okay. Three protein is getting faster when you watch video of how it works. You're like wow. That's it's it. Feels like something has materialized out of thin air. Yeah because it's it's the advancements in ai because the algorithm can be you know can direct the lasers to exactly the right places so that it will in fact create the solid objects at exactly the right places. So it's much more. Precise can be used for interior decorating. They think because you don't have to finish the item. They come out polished. Just make it perfect from the beginning. This is a pretty big advance. It'll be interesting to see where it goes. I know a lot of people in the three D. Printing space will be annoyed with the fact that I'm like whatever happened to Three D. Printing and it was gonna be was GONNA change everybody's lives and I know that it is extremely helpful for lots of things if you need to make something but this seems like okay now. We're really getting somewhere because it's almost instantaneous. To get all the tech headlines each day about five minutes be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines Dot Com in light of the failure of the APP used in the Iowa Caucus earlier this month in the United States. Nevada reportedly decided not to use that same APP but instead they're using a tool. It's not an APP. They say at least sources say they say it's a preinstalled tool on an IPAD. That's not connected to the internet which I would also call an APP just one. That's not connected to the internet or the one made by shadow for the Iowa caucus but there is in fact the difference. The IOWA APP was meant to transmit the vote and delegate count to the state that's why it was Internet connected. This Nevada ipad tool the volunteers are describing various. Alex seems to be for use only in the room to calculate the numbers because calculating the numbers and collating all those numbers during the caucus is complex. So it's essentially if I get this right Justin. It's a glorified calculator. Yes and here is one of the differences between Nevada an Iowa Nevada will begin early voting within the next few days that means that preset locations you can go and caucus a about a week ahead of time so at those precincts those calculators will be preloaded theoretically with the early voting that would result in. That would have gone that. Tracy this is like telling your dungeon master here all the things to do During the game I won't be there right because a caucus we think of is like you go to that corner of the room if you support that candidate and what's happening on early voting if I have it right. Justin you basically put down your choices in order like I'm for this person but if they don't survive the first round then go to this person but if that one's also not around go to this person that Cetera exactly so think of it because we are in Vegas the Mecca of gambling that pre-vote will be kind of like a point. Spread the way that you would bet in the way that if you see the Miami Dolphins Against The Dallas cowboys the Miami Dolphins minus seven. That would be. Let's say Bernie Sanders. He will be minus seven because Elizabeth. Warren has gotten seven votes. If that makes any sense you're the the the what I WANNA ask. Everybody here is that. Let's imagine that we do live in twenty twenty and you do want to modernize and make the process of the caucus faster and cleaner and so you do want to implement some kind of technology to make it easier for everybody but you don't WanNa go full Iowa and have a total meltdown disaster by the way an APP that was initially bought by Nevada for this caucus and apparently Nevada loved it so much. They recommended it to Iowa I than the one that had the exploding cigar So now Nevada has dropped it and has this tool. But how do you handle it? Yeah because the tricky part is you've got some complex math going on you don't want I mean if you're just do it on paper doing it on paper would be absolutely more complex than using a computer. We have computers. We're not talking about the Internet here. I think it would be silly not to use a computer somehow to do this. Because you're going to have all these people who voted early and they're ranked choices that you need to take into account in addition to the people standing in the caucus right. And so. If I have I don't know an excel spreadsheet that has all the early voting data in it and I can just go in and fill in a form that says okay for the first round in the room at this many for this candidate this many for that candidate and then it calculates ID. That's great sounds like that's the idea for this ipad tool. Yeah isn't an APP but I don't know why you had to create something from scratch. There's so many tools that would do this. And if you're going to be off line anyway then it's just a matter of double checking to make sure that the data entry is correct and people are trained on the tool. And you're already having to do that with the IPAD TOOL. So why not use something? That's proven frigging Microsoft. Excel now the one thing that we can tell you is that we don't know whether or not it is. Excel Baby. It is right. No idea exactly what this particular tool is. We just know that it was a precinct. Captains were trained on last Saturday. That apparently was not a seamless process. At least according to all reports of those that were there but at the very least there is the there are a few things going Nevada number one a lot. Fewer people in Nevada caucuses than they do in Iowa and I will. It is a cultural tradition in Nevada. They've only been doing it since two thousand and eight number two. It happens a lot earlier. Check in for caucusing is at ten. Am and the caucus happens at noon. Now it happens on a weekend so you're able to get out a little bit earlier. It's not like people will be leaving work in less. Obviously they have a tremendous service economy that works on the weekends. They're coming up your city right but even then the casinos are holding their own. People are going to be allowed to leave their shifts. So everybody if you were going to be in Vegas that weekend make sure you get at least two drinks at eleven fifty five. That's that's fantastic and we will. Of course Wait to hear how this APP DOES. But if you have a suggestion you're like this is what they do. Email US feedback daily Tech News. Show DOT com. He thinks everybody who participates in our sub read. It's also a good way to get some feedback by submitting stories and voting on others daily Tech News show dot ready dot com and also joining in the conversation in our discord. You can join by linking to a Patriot. Act PATRIOTAIR DOT com slash. Ns actually hold on breaking news literally breaking as we are recording this. The Democrats of Nevada have released their full details of the caucus process. And we'll be using Google forms based calculator via web browser on a party. Purchase ipad to transmit early will also be called in but this does contradict some of the early reporting saying that this was not Internet enabled. Yeah that Google forms has to be Internet enabled. Yeah I mean this. This will be transmitted via the Internet. But I mean Jeez Louise thankfully they are using something that works at at at a massive scale for which the Nevada caucus will be but a hiccup on on election day. Bless you Nevada. Democratic Party Chris Christianson. The amateur traveler is back with us today with a timely tip for upcoming travelers. This is Chris. Christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel. Minute as we think about the trips that are getting cancelled and the conferences. That are getting canceled here. Because of the fear of their corona virus it is useful to remind people that this might be a good time to get travel insurance especially trip interruption insurance or trip cancellation insurance but also from tech point of view if you do get travel. Insurance from one of the leading travel companies most of those companies also have an APP. And it'd be good to have that with you on your trip and that can help you access information about your insurance but all so can in some cases help you reach someone to deal with things like. Hey I'm trapped on a cruise ship because they won't let us off at a port which is what some people are going through right now and see if you can make other travel plans so get travel insurance. Get the APP. I'm Chris. Christensen from amateur traveler timely timely advice. Thank you Chris. Let's check out. The mailbag Andrew wrote in and said regarding our story on the remote speaker from Sony. 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DNB: The Purpose of Portland's Riots, John Oliver Teaches Viewers To Propagandize Selves, & Channels of Propaganda (7.27.20)

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DNB: The Purpose of Portland's Riots, John Oliver Teaches Viewers To Propagandize Selves, & Channels of Propaganda (7.27.20)

"Welcome to the drive time news. Thirty minutes forty five per patrons jam packed with news of the day from a perspective of truth, liberty and justice. This is Monica Parades Brab include. Our top story, Portland protests continue to be violent in the dark of night. Federal agents are they're supposedly protecting federal property. We know the intentions of both Bill Bar and trump are to send federal agents in other cities. They're doing it in Chicago to fight. Rising crime rates specifically gun crime to confiscate quote legal guns. This thing is is a fronts in part at least. For a federal station of the police for enforcing. Federal laws in cities with her. Without the permission of the locals, I think there's an element here of either actually trying to start a civil war, I have a lot of details that have come out of other stories that make me think that or at least to justify the martial law that we were threatened with in from the from the clips you play for us from the Army College, where there would be a trip wire, and it would show us how dangerous on the edge we are in one regard or another, and that they would results Marshall around the election. There's just so many things coming together here and. I WANNA. Get to all of it, but. Let me just take a breath. That's the that's kind of what's top top story today I've seen a lot of stuff about the protests going on in Portland and now apparently around the country as well. There's some more that went on. They've been going on since this all started months ago, but Portland specifically they've been talking about how they've been attacking the courthouses and trying to set the courthouses on fire and as you said. It's being done under the cover of night. We talked to Sam Tripoli is past weekend. He was in Portland, and he saw some of what was going on. He said it was kind of condensed to like one little part of the area, just a very small, which makes sense because if you want to film, something, show maximum amount of what appears to be chaos. You're gonNA pack everything into a small area and showed that area, so it appears to be just filled with chaos. And he said that what he saw was nothing like what was on TV. I don't think he was there between midnight and I don't think he was there overnight I'm not certain, but he said it was not being portrayed accurately. Just point about Sam he is going to join us for our first Friday. free-for-all disappearing patron party on August seventh, so if people want to join us for that, it's going to be Super Fun. You have to be a patron of the truth or higher at patriotic. That's going to be great. But what he said reflects what Nagler said Nagler Jerry. Nadler was taught to. He was kind of. Caught up with on the streets by some look like citizen journalists asking him about what he thought was happening in Portland and he nothing. It's just totally overblown. The news reports are not correct, so they walked away. Just with their jaws dropped like did he just call it? News I noticed a couple of things about that interaction one. He wasn't wearing a mask even though he was talking to pearls, and he had a private security Guy Grill la in civvies, clearly not. A uniformed agent and it just emphasized to me this third world where the elite are going to have private security private healthcare private education, and that's all going to work for them, and then the rest of us are going to have tax funded. Public services like that that don't actually do what they're supposed to do, but rather keep us in our either. Dependent on the healthcare system brainwashed by education or totally insecure. It's the Pathak crecy and I just thought the little video of Nagler emphasize that in my mind. Yeah, well, massive security is definitely going to be running rampant. Yes, well, that's what's happening. Here is oh so many of the stories I read. Minneapolis has I guess a black militia or black vigilante group walking around with guns, trying to keep people safe which I'm all for then they have barriers barricades, surrounding neighborhoods, so people can't come in or out I. Certainly think that that's appropriate for private property and. I sincerely doubt they're enforcing drug laws like they're not going in there. Enforcing prohibitions like the regular cops do and I thought like they're doing the things that I think you should do. You should arm yourself and protect yourself. You should secure the borders of your own property and don't enforce any prohibitions, however it even if it would work properly in a free society. That's not what this is all about. This is about this is a Scwhab so then you see another story from out of Kentucky saying Oh. Competing militias were facing off against each other and I believe, and but no violence ensued I believe they were race space a black militia. White militia and I feel like we are really being set up at least for the visuals of a civil war for decades, people have been talking about race war which I. Absolutely never believed to be organic and I still don't think it is i. look at these protests. These pictures on the paper. That, PORTLAND? Absolutely look just like the color revolution stuff that we were seeing over the past couple of decades coming out of George Soros's handbook, literally passing out flyers and handbooks of how to dress how to do it how to use homemade improvised weapons to protect your face. These people are even now wearing eye protection, which I predict is going to be part of the antic- ovid gear I think this stuff is, it is highly orchestrated i. Appreciate You Speaking of increase measures like wearing goggles. Did you see the I believe is on CNN? that. For covid, where not just one mask? Where at least two. To protect yourself from COVID, the article says it. Homemade cloth facemask likely need a minimum of two layers, and preferably three layers to prevent the dispersal of viral droplets from the nose and mouth that are associated with the spread of covid is according to a recent study just published, so they've singled out homemade cloth masks. They didn't single out. The target bought or wherever you buy. Buy The call facemask to me. This just says No. You have to wear masks, and you have to spend your money on wearing masks. Otherwise you need to put at least two or three on your face. Well there they are. I think that these stories really dovetail the way they're talking about it. I've got more stuff on the protested where that's headed. One is that. Both Ouchi and that health and Human Services. Guy emphasized two things where mask and close the bars. They don't talk about washing your hands or anything. They talk about social distancing close the door bars where mask and I feel like all of that stuff is. Is Making it impossible for people to you. Call from the beginning. Communicate on any kind of resistance level yet. These protesters all seem to be on the same page I think that page was printed and handed out by. Somebody in the very highest echelon. classically Soros but I and I also feel like this. These protests can't possibly be grassroots like they want you to think they are, and that's why we're not. If we can't meet at the bars or anything like that, we're not getting any grassroots thing going. And reminds me of A. The opening quote and that Great Book? I'm reading against the grain. By James C, Scott where it's, it is a quote. I forget who it was from somebody famous Levi Strauss and he says something to the effect of. Writing all at no state has ever existed without writing and writing is always accompanied by the state. It seems clear that writing is used to exploit man rather than enlighten him so I I just look at what's happening here. It's very clear would not be happening without the media without the propaganda without. Because, it's happening all different cities that once in the same way I mean. This is being propagated. And I and I feel like the evidence is right there before you and then you have the you have this narrative coming out of the right while they're attacking federal buildings this thing in Portland. Will. The reporting is heather attacking federal buildings. They're doing exactly just that thing. It reminds me of that famous Patrick Clawson clip where he talks about how to organize a false flag. Just that thing that will get the response you want, which is a federal crackdown, just that thing? Why are they in their? This is about police brutality, the one the one government agency they should not be attacking our federal judicial. courthouses I mean it just makes no sense one thing they can justify the feds come, and it's irrelevant to what they say they're. They're therefore. And what are they there for? What is the purpose they can't. They see that it's doing the exact opposite of what they say they want. But people in the right are defending it because they're saying trump does have this little carve out and I'm saying no. If you look deeper, they are not restricting themselves to that little carve out in in whatever it was at the Department of Homeland. Security Lot. Not It wasn't even. Anything traditional or legit. They're doing just that thing, and if you WanNa talk about it, and the other thing that I really think is going to foment this. They're starting to resuscitate the reparations thing in the in Congress reparations, so we're going to re post our reparations, our operations the WSB show that got completely hijacked by callers. Reparations and it was all black haulers from all different political walks of life, and and when they when Congress says they're doing it for because that's what people want I. Don't believe it, and the reason is that it is anticipated that this will cause even greater hostility and people just don't want that alarm spot to a few things you said there lot of Mir linen taught people in Russia to read, because not him personally, but they taught the public to read, because they could not propagandize him by the printed word without doing so, which means that could not exercise their power over them. The same is true today. They talk about how. People in the rural areas that don't have Internet don't have that means of communications they can be reached with need to have the Internet's why we see this push to get the internet and five G. into rural areas and into low income communities that don't have it. Media Literacy training. We've seen about media literacy training. John Oliver trying to teach people how to spot conspiracy theories. Theories are fake news the other day, and how to find information that that is true and his recommendation on finding information that is true with he goes through this long thing where he he had a bunch of celebrities of different age, ranges and different demographics speak a script that I guess. His writers wrote telling people to wear their mask to do this to do that. That, so he has an old celebrity, young celebrity, a female and he would say for this group of people. You're probably more likely to listen to this person for this group of people. You're more likely to listen to that person. And literally he created a montage videos of all of these people saying that, and then he directed his audience. Go to this website and you. You can find the person who you're most influenced by and here this exact same message. It was an extraordinary piece of propaganda, and we read one quote to you. Our practice is rooted in the understanding that moments of historic social confrontations, advance, freedom and justice are not random events that just happen. Rather these confrontations are engineered or harnessed by strategist embedded in social movements. Who? The power narrative to shape public understanding in manifest political power through collective action. They are all ASTROTURF. Oh. Wow, and this and this. I was thinking. They go beyond that to in that. In the sixties they the CIA infiltrated and was responsible for arming the black panthers from turning them. On idea to a violent or aggressive or scary force, and I feel like that's exactly what's happening here with Antifa at bears, all the hallmarks of that including having like a quasi uniform, and I also wonder about the guy who was supposedly shot and killed in Texas Garrett Foster. I think his name was. The original headline I saw from the Daily Mail wise. protester, pushing his fiancee paraplegic quadruple amputee and should a picture of him. Swiped guy with a gorgeous, young black woman, smiling with him, she looks very healthy and robust. You didn't see the full picture of her being both a paraplegic missourians. You're paralyzed an amputee, which means you're an empty whatever, but then the lady you see paraplegic is to limp, so could have had one lampy hair. Paraquat. Four but a paraplegic would mean. Your legs were paralyzed and quadruple amputee met her arms and legs were amputated so a quadruple. If you t that's what it's a well, so, but she looks so robust, and I feel like with that kind of radical health problem. You wouldn't look that healthy, but whatever I didn't see anything else, but what what so that? That headlines Smack to me of atrocity propaganda. Because he here's the innocent victim, couldn't have been more sympathetic a person, but as the story unfolded you they are. There's an interview with him. A little. iphone video which you see precious few of these days. The amazingly few, but he's saying he armed up. He had a long gun I didn't see it. I didn't know and he said well. The police are getting all in our face, and they're not letting. Go Go, so I decided to arm up and then the story of the guy shooting him that. that. Some of the stories say this that Gary Foster approached his car that and I think you saw a little more of that than I did. What I saw about that story I've heard both sides of his well. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle, but the other side of that story is that the car pulled. It was driving, and then it ran into where these protesters are, and the protesters surround him, and that that's what's been happening in a lot of these videos when they are protesters out on the street, and a car comes through, and some circumstances said it is getting out of the way they swarm the car and they start beating on the car and. Of course the headlines will reflect it the other way they try to frame it to where the driver plows through them, which in a couple of cases driver has done that, so I've seen videos of both were the driver's seat fall in those the? Seem to be at fault, but they say that they surrounded his car, and this guy with the gun came to his car with a gun, and the other guy had got also pulled out his gun and shot him, and then he and then that guy in turn, the driver were shot at by protesters. So this guy couldn't have been the only one with a gun if he was downed young and other shot, and then there was a blue jeep that went i. think was in Colorado went onto the interstate, and the people were on the interest, so he supposedly plowed through them. I don't know, but they everybody. The car got shot, or at least three people got shot in the jeep. Situation you just doesn't seem right to me. Is this black lives matter? Is this really the protesters college kids going out and just trying to get some change at the at the level of police brutality. Mean this just makes no sense whatsoever, and it was an AK47 that he was carrying. Wow well. I didn't even see that because that's such a demonize weapon. I'll say this again these. These protests might seem like an exciting thing to go to, or they might seem like it could be cool just to kind of watch. Reserve observed from the side, but we have seen sometimes cars find themselves pulling into pulling down roads where they didn't realize protests Raton. They get swarmed, and they find themselves in the middle of it. You don't know who's going to be around you. I normally. Don't say this New Orleans. Let's go watch suspect cool, but this. I would stay completely away from the fact that He. And his wife who is a quadruple amputee that is a dangerous situation to me. That feels like some Jan Schakowsky stuff where they trained them. These activists tradings what she said in his actress training network Nah net roots nation. This is a senator from Illinois. She said. It's good for the Movement for us to see people being pulled out of wheelchairs by police officers and she's talking about the tactic is why you see a bunch of people wheelchairs going to quote Unquote Storm. A sender's office is because they know that these are the most sympathetic people and if you can get a photo op. Shot of the police do something to them. Then you're going to be able to mobilize and organize a bunch more people. It's so crazy, though because there is no talk at all about how these protesters could possibly be spreading now spreading covert. Now you see with masks on their with on because they're anti, or whatever T. the TV really is associated I'm pretty sure I saw on TV line supplies Walmart this weekend. Wow, really wearing all black dad. And they were, they had backpacks. Yeah I, mean stuff like that. People handing out frozen water bottles to other protesters. I mean those are agents provocateur of sure, but the Cova Derek continues on a parallel track. I don't know exactly how they're going to tell. In some places they do dovetail like the mask wearing but. I I continue to look at the mortality rates the provisional death tolls from all causes on that CDC page. It is absolutely poor law meeting. It is below what you would expect for this time. I'm waiting for those provisional data to kind of solidify over an eight week period, but so far it looks like there is a severe regression to the mean. And then I revisited an article that David Crow had tweeted at me obviously before he died, that said. Ventilator mortality in New York during the measure period by a journal of the American Medical Association study the death rate for people over sixty five put on ventilators was ninety seven point two percent. So, you're basically killing people because the margin of error could easily be just if you put so there's no reason to use events later. If one hundred percent of the people closer entrepreneurs people die, just let them die I mean there's absolutely no reason. If there's any chance they could live. It's not being events later and I've that that supports what I've been thinking. which is that entire peak in New York was a function of this and I am trying to see how many ventilators at any one time we're in use because that would help us connect. Assuming every one of those people died. Then then you could say are at the entire peak was due to that and we are regressing towards the me, and and the last thing I'll say about it is I think it was all intentional, and this is how come I think that because from the very beginning. They told us that kids will not die of this. And how did they know that if they didn't know exactly who and how people would die? Yeah well now. They're saying that Cova doesn't care about your age. And kids are dying now left right? Never mind that they have. Cancer they have. Obesity were always severe respiratory problems already, but they're still trying to pull that. There's something going on like this. Push right now. For the mask, the heightened tensions going around. I've gone places around here. A few weeks ago was not as intense about mass, and as many people wore them, but now we go in, and it's getting more they're. They're trying to manifest this reality, and they are succeeding on some levels I found a video of somebody at a Walmart in Gwinnett, in Gwinnett County Georgia where somebody was filming somebody without a mask and they started harassing. The person didn't have mask on guys following this other guy without a mask on around. Around the store harassing him, and with the other guy turns around the guy with the camera. Because he's trying to get a viral moment starts freaking out. We'll get away from me. Get Away if you don't want somebody without a mask near you about not following them around a Walmart and you won't have them near you, but what I found interesting about. It was that this other guy kept her around saying you know. Shut the F. up because this guy was just harassing him, he was just walking around. He was there to harass him trying to provoke him. At one point somebody, you could hear somebody. Say Hey, even the fuck alone. He starts going off on them and this guy with this camera turns to this person and he's like yelling at this person as he turns to him only to realize that this person yelling at him is is wearing a mask, so he had a mask person. Be like quit bothering other person. He quickly turned his phone back around. That's great. That's good I. Mean it's it's, but he posted it. Oh, no, that was somebody else's video. Oh, very interesting. Yeah! It was because they want to put out us this other this narrative and that's the only thing they want us to see. Big Shoutout to liberty, gear, dot, net and online store filled with mass shirts, and even some cool posters, including protests gear such as the obey. And flattened allies mass lots of other funny stuff to lighten up your day. They also take requests for custom gear at support at liberty, gear, dot net, and they have a special discount code for ten percent off for anyone using the Promo code propaganda, all lower case, and this reminds me that we have a new Patriot tear called the mini Ed, so if you have a product, service or podcasts or website or anything, propaganda report listeners to know about checkout our mini ads here at Patriotair Dot. com slash propaganda report. I also want to say about. The tests are gonNA. Go Up. Did you have a? Mask with so fallacy was at the game last week, and he threw the first pitch, and it was terrible and buddy at a mask on the mask when. Did you see the number on his Jersey? What was it nineteen? No I didn't I didn't know you sent that task. Sick as macab, so he wears the mask. And then there's somebody alerted to me this on twitter. There's a photo of him in the stands sitting no social distancing. Next with his wife, the other apparently was one of his friends, his faces, facing directly towards the person to his right, and he is laughing, and appears to be about class has together to cheer for the game, or whatever so he feels it necessary to wear it while pitching, despite nobody's anywhere near him. Because it's a photo op, but in the crowd he doesn't do it. Somebody snaps the picture. He was on Fox News asked about this, and he got a little defensive about it. He said if if they want to, you know I was dehydrated. Dehydrated and I want to take a sip of water which I saw somebody Mason, a video for doing something similar over the weekend I want to take a sip of water and had to pull the mass down and people making something of this. On the Internet, it's really mischievous is really Mr. he was laughing in the guy's face. It look like he was drinking water to Mirus on a plane and I was super hyper vigilance about making it very clear that there's only pulling the mass down to. Drink or e, because the steward said if you if someone takes their mass down, bothers you, you should tell them so I did not want to have a confrontation on a six hour. Flight Data and I was hyper sensitive to that this guy should have been given the the cameras trained on, but he probably thought he was above even the media in foul. She and it's his buddy, also very old person in that group of people that maybe all live together the montage Twat Oh God. You're welcome. Out that's when I'll wear a mask and a blindfold. If that's going on to tell you why I think the tests are going to go away up. Did I tell you this last week that they were mandating. Maybe I did they were mandating that. Healthcare workers take test weekly and so I investigated ends up that healthcare workers only only in highly infected places and that I I read that healthcare workers are twelve times as likely to test positive. They're also, and that's a federal mandate, or it's a federal program, so if they test the same people over and over again they keep getting positives in these people rather they're symptomatic or not. That's really gonNA check the numbers and another one I saw was that we're going to in? Old folks homes and I wonder because I don't actually think viruses are what we're told, they are there. There's something else. I wonder if healthcare facilities there is one person, said the at their xhosas, their soap, so I wonder if being in A. That kind of environment with a lot of toxins and listened stuff. Healthcare Workers, old people folks home. If it makes your body kind of generate, those assumes if if you just have a naturally higher load of that stuff, so those those populations would get higher positive rates on a PC test looking for that fragmentary genetic material. which you might you, might yourself produce I? Don't know, but I think there might be something to that I'd love to see the breakdown of symptomatic and. For positive tests in those environments, but in any case you can expect the case rate to continue to skyrocket yeah. There was a story about how a lot of the test in Florida where they had tested a bunch of children. And they had tested them all as being positive than they were only reporting positives. That's what they were doing, so they take one hundred test. Ten would be positive and they would say. We took ten Tasse and. The Florida Department of Health is admitted a massive era and reporting in which more than one thousand negative test results. Were not counted so. That it wasn't that do i. read that that was. That doesn't make sense. Because the data was coming in from different counties like that so that it was more orchestrated thing now. I don't think that we know for sure, but I think it. That makes it look innocent, but I do not think it was innocent. Yeah, I don't think he was incident. The Oh one more thing about foul cheap yeah! Something extraordinary happened. After that game, which really crystallized the the purpose of that whole thing, because as we see baseball, because everybody on a couple of teams tested positive, not everybody, but most of them so now they're shutting down the Games again, and they're pulling major league baseball up as the example of how not to handle it, and how wrong they are, and they're showing the NBA as the NBA is correct. They locked themselves in a bubble. They agreed not to leave their subjecting themselves to all this testing and tracking technology i. I believe some journalist or even wearing shock collars essentially to alert them when they're within six feet of each other. It's absurd there voluntarily committing to doing this so that they can be part of the NBA season while Baseball's messing up, baseball could get shut down again after less than even week to have an emergency meeting today, but what they did with Ouchi and baseball is during his pitch, no matter how bad it was a took that picture of him, and they turned it into a tops baseball card. Tops baseball card. It also you buy a collector's pack. You'll get a she card. In that pack and front and Center on that card was the mask, so it wasn't a foul card a card for the mask this. This is interesting to me. Because when you read the propaganda literature, it's all about the channels. The propaganda you WANNA reach people through every point of contact that they have and the way to do that as you politicise every. Every Avenue of society so that it doesn't matter what you're having a conversation about or what you're involved in. You're going to be subject to propaganda. Here's a definition from a great book. Called channels of propaganda says propaganda takes place when influencers attempt to win over the public by infiltrating messages and to various channels of public expression that are viewed as politically neutral. Baseball card politically neutral. WHO DOES THAT TAR? Where is that? This is for a book called channels of propaganda. To fantastic book Michael Sprawled Yeah, and is that where you got the earlier quote from today? No, the earlier and I got from an activist training, but this is what they use. Stacey Abrams m used to tell stories with re imaging change. Okay, we imagining imagine change. Yeah, that's the one where they say it doesn't matter. If the is true, it just matters if you believe it's true. Of course. Yeah, not that we didn't know. That is career to see it in their own words, so revealing so fouled. She gets that baseball card. That's targeting children. Children are more likely to collect baseball cards, so the reaching them to that channel other channels saying tiktok. We're seeing obviously NETFLIX'S TV whatever. This is going to keep happening so in the moments where we think we're trying to escape to something. We're going to be subjected to the most propaganda any other times and we need to be aware of that. That's all I'm putting that out there when we have our guard down when they attack us. I want to predict that FAO. She shares dubious honor with Hitler and Stalin. Can you guess. To, Stalin and Hitler have a tops baseball card. They were both Time magazine. Man of the year has filed. She been man of the year. I assume he will be this year. I think he's going to be sexiest. Here's what I think. That makes me WANNA vomit. It's GonNa. Be Him with nothing. Vomit. The! Girl with nothing, but a mask on. 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DNB: Idiot Losers Shine In Dem. Debate, Shady Facial Recognition Company Hacked, Cosby Defends Weinstein, & Coronavirus Goes Global (2.26.20)

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DNB: Idiot Losers Shine In Dem. Debate, Shady Facial Recognition Company Hacked, Cosby Defends Weinstein, & Coronavirus Goes Global (2.26.20)

"This is your drive time. News blast thirty minutes jam packed with news of the day from a perspective of truth. Liberty and justice. This is Monica Brad. Beechwood today's top story for sure is the Democrat debate but I have to say for myself thankfully life happened last night and I had an excuse not to watch the debate. My son had his first drumming Gig with his little school band because it was Mardi Gras so I was a rookie last night. Apparently the choice of drums as an instrument has far reaching implications for my Involvement level as a parent. So anyway. That was fun but I put an entire drum kit in my car and etc while you were stuck watching the debate. I can't believe that you found that more important watching the democratic debate last night last Tuesday. Trust me I insisted that we bring every last drum and that he not hit or anybody else that I wait for him instead of actually going on when coming back well. After watching that debate I would have preferred having somebody drum my head with drumsticks so my drumming as intense as it was nowhere near as bad as you are drumming these debates. Just get worse and worse and they're so useless there you know who it was it was like Maher p Mayor Mike Tom Star Bernie Sanders by Elizabeth Warren. The fighter and Amy Klobuchar. Who Why is she still there? I think she's Bake Brownies or something you. I really think that she's got some. She's either a hockey mom or hockey goalie. I haven't been able to figure out which she's definitely has a bumper sticker. That says proud mom something on the back of her car. The base is totally out of touch. You gotta you gotTa catch me up and I would guess that. Potentially not one person who's listening to this right now. Watch the debate. So it's all you basically the best way that I can describe. This debate is a few years ago. I did some short films that were titled Idiot. Losers and basically in these little sketch comedy films the premises that we would discuss something that would eventually devolve into unintelligible shouting match about something petty. That's what this debate. Let's debate was me. It was loosely. View of the pilot did for phone world. Which would have been my absolute favorite television show. I cannot believe that that didn't get picked up. Of course I totally believe it's and get picked up but we're the ITCHY and scratchy characters that everybody watches on TV. Just say to each other your stupid. No you're stupid yeah. It was similar to that as well. This was more of something really petty. And we're having a shouting match about it and nobody can hear what anybody says. And nobody makes any legitimate points. Really and everybody's stupider for the process moderators shouting you lose IQ points engaging yes sisters let of brain damage done by watching this last night. Here's a few of the highlights. I guess or what stuck out to me is Bloomberg came out of the gate by asserting himself little bit better than he did. The first time he did better this time he still comes off as a cold. No empathy prick as very unlikable. He has no charisma he is he is. Donald Trump without all of the charisma and showmanship. That's what he is. He's a stand in for Donald Trump and everything and in business acumen business acumen. Yeah so he has that he also has. Clint Eastwood's endorsement which is another thirty. Yeah it's very similar because Mike can get it done. Get it done. Get it done. Let me tell you what that means. So he came out of the gate by telling Bernie that Russia wants to buy Russia. I want you to win. Because they love trump and they know that you can't beat trump. That was what he came out of. The Gate with the audio rate was clear. Now Oh my gosh so now. Russia is interfering in the brain interfering democratic primaries to which Bernie would like. Russia has more important stuff to do. They not have everyone and it doesn't matter who wins to them. They're all obsessive. There's pictures of every Democratic candidate on Putin's wall on the wall rushing home on the job. Everyone in Russia is united in their effort to interfere in our life. So we're all it's a nationwide obsession Bernie responded by going to the camera going. I'll tell Mr Putin I will tell him to define president. He will not be interfering in the Americans election he said it real fiery and people cheered. Nobody I mean what does that you think. Putin shout at the screen. He doesn't Care Oh he eats old communist for breakfast that guy he. He built his career on the bones of old Communist. He's an old communist. He's an old com. He's reformed young communist right so Bloomberg came out of the gate with that. Then my favorite part was about in the middle of the debate. It's debate was CBS. After everybody's attacking Bloomberg instead of Bernie really even though Burns leading are still attacking Bloomberg another thing is. I think it's hilarious that it's always billionaires Lake Bloomberg and never billionaires like Tom Tom stiers also billionaire. Nobody seems to care about Matt. The only care did I tell you. The Bloomberg is a billionaire about the time star at. I heard what was this Ad. It's like a campaign ad it's totally scripted. It's an ad. And at the end he says we're GONNA kick Donald. Trump's s on the economy and Mike Vulgarity. Like the essence of vulgarity. In my opinion and I have been a master of vulgarity. Since my first word was fuck am I. Are you serious? I'm dead serious. My eight older brothers and sisters made a point. Not only teaching me fuck as my first word but it had to be in the exact sheep. Said Bay Brooklyn accent that enter dice. Clay and my family have fuck. That's it. So I have been weaned on vulgarity and a part of it is spontaneity so scripting it in and no. It's like when Jane Soot. What was her name Jan Schakowsky or something she was? When this whole vulgarity thing was taking off. She was making a speech. She said she used vulgarity. And then she said they tell me. That's okay now and you saw that in the original one but then they edited it out for all the youtube videos after that they actually went like a somebody because it was all disseminated on the post edit version so I just it just turns me off when you're making this. Obviously manipulative decision to use vulgarity. Which you really do not need to use vulgarity. Which has some limitations on when and where you're allowed to use it kind of messes up. You're you're making obviously decision to do it and that just feel so manipulative today. Trying to give that revolutionary spirit trying to convey that connects with the youth right. Bloomberg had an ad right in the middle of the debate. It cuts away from the debate and goes directly to a Bloomberg add come on facebook can completely suppressed all political advertising. Don't you think it's at least common sense that in the moment of political discourse you not allow the advertising I mean? I don't care what they do but that seems a little asking for trouble. Looks like it's begging for regulation. It's Hilarious to see Bloomberg up there on stage. He clearly doesn't really care that much about that doesn't care he doesn't even today on the ads. Zip The ad is like what does that mean. Mike will get it done. What does that mean business family? That's much better. I could do his accent accent. Well off to work on that or as long as we need it so Elizabeth. Warren continued her. No nonsense grandma vibe brought on and again. Bernie's the leader so she's attacking Bloomberg and she's talking about how when she was a young mother who was obviously pregnant obviously pregnant and then my boss looked at me and he got fired because she was pregnant right and then she goes at least. I didn't have a boss who like Bloomberg told me to kill it and the kill it. She emphasized that because he was accused of telling a pregnant woman never worse than to kill her baby or she's Warren called abortion killing a baby. No she didn't know I'm I'm like I'm not saying like what he did. Say That yes. She did say. That wasn't about abortion. But yes she did in effect say that. I know I thought that I was like wow. That's contradictory in another context but well. That whole argument is so weird. Yeah so the idea is to attack Bloomberg that claim was never proven Bloomberg amid immediately was like how come I never said that. And then she goes on to attack so her attack on Bloomberg as he tells pregnant women to kill their babies she goes on to attack front runner Bernie Sanders. By saying I agree with everything. Bernie says she says he's great and says. I just think I'd be a better president. So that's her attack on Bloomberg versus attack on Bernie. Some people think she wants to be burns running mate. I don't know what that sounds like. A winner well she would be. Press Quiver is birdies running mate and old angry. Thirty IS GOING TO BE PRESIDENT DO I. Oh yeah well she immediately so Florida you can see. He looks like he's experiencing heart problems. Looks like a heart attack. His face is flush all the time. It's like I just don't you know there's definitely an internal struggle to yeah. His entire campaign is dependent on him getting worked up and angry because he says the same thing over and over high with a lot of enthusiasm mad. And that's the reason if he's faking it he might just kill. And that's the only reason people respond him if Pete Buddha veg delivered his message the way the Bernie delivers his message. Pete would have fired up basis. Well but pete. Buddha vich delivers his leg vis. I'm the most He's a robot talks so see what. He's what what they're crafting his image for later because he's A. OC Stacey. Abrams level created person. Yeah I completely agree a couple more. Quick things on the debate is that. Bernie's argument for everything was once again billionaires exist and that's the problem that was his primary argument entire debate. Yeah what the answer to Billionaires. Existing is competition competition. I just had to explain this just to real quick before it. This works you invent something. It's great you make as many as you can get it out there. Get Super Rich. That's great thank you for inventing it. Everybody's happy okay. The next day or year or whatever somebody looks at that thing figures out how to make it didn't have to worry about inventing it or anything like that. Just figures out how to make it. Then they make a million of them drive the price down. And then you start making your money but you got rich for inventing it whatever and then the price goes down people can have more of them and eventually like everybody who can figure out how to make. It makes it so that nobody really gets rich. Any more often however much it takes you to build it and make it and use capital to have a factory or use your time. It evens out so that the marginal return on labor and capital is basically zero. It's that if you could make more money in another business you would keep entering that business until you can't really make any more or people would just keep answering the business. It's called Economic Zero. There's a race to economic zero and then everybody has more stuff for less and nobody gets super super rich now. I'm fine with people getting rich. I don't care but I'm saying those kind of maintained outside. Prophets are often if not always a result of regulatory barriers to entry or other policy issues that keep people from competing you down technomic zero. That's why Rockefeller the first one said if I if the quotas accurate Lee attributed to him competition is a sin and that's when I believe the robber barons ushered in the progressive era of corporate regulation. Bernie like that at all. Well Bernie maybe needs a little economics lesson. Ernie even pretty much. Everyone would agree with that. Even the problem with the other non billionaire candidates for Bernie is still billionaires. Because it's map peach right about so and so but the problem is all of his backers billionaires Joe all his backers billionaires. The billionaire is working to every answer that he gives. And where is it going? I mean it seems to me that the election process from the primaries to the Caucasus to the DNC to how they're attacking Bernie to how Bloomberg's bringing in the money and then ultimately Russian interference media impact on the elections. All of this stuff is all coming down popular vote versus electoral vote immigrants. All this kind of stuff everything. Everything is all seems to be converging at once to have Hashtag election crisis twenty twenty so that the whole darn thing is revamped from bottom to top and the attack on the caucuses to me as proof positive that they are really trying to have a whole whole sale reinvention of the election process. Just highly controlled probably highly digitized to where it's really like a dystopia and science fiction thing where you go in and you whatever you tell the screen who you're voting for and I have to say anything it just read your brain and then they tell you what the answer is. Oh You who? You voted for him. Yeah you assume that it's all accurate and on the up and up because by this time you've been so dumbed down that you're just looking for your Selma whatever. So speaking of Russia Biden was asked if he's president. We learned that Russia interfere in the twenty twenty election which has already been predetermined. So of course. We're going to learn that. Will he conduct a retaliatory cyber attack and that is something to look out for? Because we know that we're already attacking people cyber. Don't you remember when you and I both noticed and like nobody ever talks about it? There was just like this one line in an Obama. Was it a speech? Or report whatever's like O. J. F. Y. We dropped a landmine cyber mine in this stuff. We sent to Russia. So if they ever do anything to us we can just activate it and it'll completely nuclear explosion. Their system we already have been license on. We have basically held hostage with cyber bombs. I believe they were referred to them and Iran operation. Zoos Nitro Zeus. So yeah I would say we`re. We've already got plans for this place. If and if we want to activate that stuff to spark like a cyber nuclear war we could just say they did. It's US first because we do stuff like right. And we can mimic the cyber fingerprint of any other country right as released in default seven. Release a couple of years ago which I think bill. Binney told us about that. Yeah I believe one. Final debate thing is that Bernie presented his education plan where he talks about his zero to four preschool plan. Child Care Plan which is exactly the same even uses the exact same language about the brain informing the brain just like Stacey Abrams used and the plans identical stacey. Abrams cradle to career. And it's a plan that comes directly from UNESCO the United Nations interesting. Well I mean we absolutely have to move on but I'm going to move on as well. The thing is I need some comic relief. Because we've been talking about corona virus every day for so long and it's just it's pressing but have to say that we did a good thing and we did a special report on. It was like forty minute thing forty five minutes on kind of everything that we gathered so far of the parallels and the agenda of event to a one. The novel virus live simulation from October. Twenty nine thousand nine versus what we're really seeing unfold and every single solitary day you see more and more of that to the point where even today there are a couple of headlines. One said that governments embrace web shutdowns. And it's on the front page of The Wall Street Journal. Criticizing them for suppressing speech. Or whatever and I see in that part of the eventual one thing where the actually want governments or say the governments will shut down the Internet that without global governance and global standards and preparedness on how to have a controlled and well meaning Internet shutdown just to keep conspiracy theories away so that the governments and the health agencies can do their job that that governments will just do this Willy Nilly Internet shutdown. And it'll be bad. There was somebody was holding sign and the picture that said Internet access is a human right which I've seen before heard before and some of the clips you've played for us on propaganda report once you call it a human right. It has to be provided. And if past we provided has to be provided safely that means regulation at the same time a couple of weeks ago facebook and other companies like that calls for a global governance of regulatory system for the potentially damaging information that comes up through those resources so. I expect this older had nothing to do with current a virus to over the next twelve months dovetail into that argument and this stuff all came out of events. One if you do wanna hear the kind of overview of eventual one goto the proper port dot com. It's a special report. We put up a day or two ago February. Twenty four twenty fifth or two a propaganda report podcast feed and we put it up there but it looks like every person who listens to that stuff has listened to it because there was some demand for it anyway so yeah the corona virus it just keeps keeps plugging along still messing with the markets. And I don't know if it's real or not but it's I mean it's getting real. Yeah it's definitely the gift that keeps on giving for our show right now. Anyway I went to the doctor that took my mom to the doctor and he got to talk about the corona virus. I when I went in there. I noticed that you have to fill out a form telling them if you've been to China if you've been experiencing and they list off the symptoms which are flu symptoms are symptoms that we've been hearing about the corona virus. But you go on to read the rest of the questions and it's like have you been around anybody who's traveled to China so it's clearly a corona virus evaluation form that you fill out and I was sitting there reading that and I'm going if I did have any of this and I didn't want to be quarantined I'd probably lie. Oh absolutely and you have core. Yeah if they're going. They're going to show that voluntary submission is not gonNA work right. We need to actually monitor you and track you every single person all the time because you cannot people and it's going to be like gun control like they're gonNA have different angles to their agenda and one of the things is going to be oh look typhoid Mary or Corona. Mary or whatever is she live. Yeah and doctors are going to be required to report it which is going to further encourage people to lie about it if they know that their doctor will have to report if they check yesterday these things they're going to show damage danger from both compliance and non compliance voluntary forced national private. They're gonNA show that no matter what anyone did no matter how well meaning they were. It did not really work. It caused either. Viral virus spread or panic and that the only answer is a coordinated response between the private and public spears at from everywhere from the locals the global level. That's what he was after. And that's why all of these stories look like they're they're criticizing different things competent government. Incompetent government proactive retroactive. They're criticizing it all because what they're after is a system that they want to put in place that can circumvent laws circumvent options and have it a system top-down systemic centralized protocol that can be triggered. And and you then have no choice even on the national level my prediction. Another thing that I think. That's a good prediction. Another thing that they're encouraging is they're encouraging social separation. Staying isolating people staying away from people so that you don't get the disease. This is what they're doing over in China. These are the methods that they're promoting and China. They say the saved everybody and what social separation one thing it does. We've talked about people gathering in masses and the influence of the crowd. There's the good and bad with that but social separation if that's done on a mass scale that prevents the population from uniting together to rise up against a corrupt government. Wow that's a great point and the that's so interesting because first of all the CDC chick you quoted yesterday. She was telling us to prepare for tele schooling and all that. So they'll install school into your computer whatever kind of in that case. Maybe they even get rid of true homeschooling but I have often thought about art. People don't like it because I tend to be like I don't have a lot of hope for like the way we're going. My hope is in waking people up because I think that the level of propaganda is pretty clearly a reflection of the fact that our power is one hundred percent in our consent withdrawing our consent so we have the power. That's a very hopeful thing. But one thing they're doing is I think with like twitter facebook stuff like that. There's a chance that what we are acting as all of us. All of us engage in this stuff. What feels like political activity to a level that we've never actually engaged in before that what we're actually doing is using a release valve or relief valve. I always forget what it thinks relief valve. So that we're getting our frustrations out by venting on twitter or whatever in a digital way but because the way the media covers the frame the issues. We're talking about current virus instead of bill bar supporting a renewal of FIFA yeah. I probably didn't even hear about that. No this right so that that came out today. I'm hopefully. I'll talk about it tomorrow. But I think that. Like digitizing the the sphere the Public Square. We also saw in like some of that. Us Army College stuff from. I think even two thousand and from Sun Steen's cognitive infiltration thing about conspiracy theories they both site how much easier it will be to control the political conversation in the digital space and then ultimately part of that hey edmund part of that will be to create a birds of a feather so you think you have a political action group going on on your local level like digitally local level. But you're the only human being in the group that was from a courts article about Google so essentially creating a false reality for every individual through the digital spear. Yeah and giving you yes. Racial Reality Civic engagement in virtual reality digging control. Virtually better than you can right. And because you don't you don't get. They don't have a holiday for every issue. They only have a holiday for the shit that they are. They're generating that they want you to focus on that. You know what I'm saying. We're we've got a holiday corona virus but we don't have a Hodzic really for Operation Guardian. Let me tell you what the doctor said about. Corona virus is due. He said that there's people most likely walking around all over America with the corona virus. He says that the testing standards that they have they don't have any says. United States has no real testing standards for doctors to follow. He said if somebody came in with symptoms that he wouldn't know what to test or look for besides a typical virus or flu symptoms and he would tell people the same thing that he tells them when they have the flu and less. They needed to be hospitalized so he didn't seem too worried about it. And exactly what I mean I. Certainly that's exactly what? I thought that it's a flu. Maybe even just a cold if you have pneumonia if you're vulnerable. It's treated the same way if you're going to die of pneumonia you should be in hospital. You should be getting the fluids. They should help. You make sure you don't suffocate in your own liquid lungs but other than that. They cannot really help a virus rescued good nourishment. Just don't spread it around. They can do. That's what I don't go to the clinics where spreading around go to the clinics and overwhelm the system. There's no reason for that if the you know. It's a flu or cold. Don't go to the doctor because they can't help you know right. They've already shipped. The first vaccine. A drug maker has in record time. They've shipped it and they're going to be doing the first trials who is. What company is it? The company happens is they're called modern a- Imo D. R. A. Madonna. Okay Yeah and they just shift the first batch of the experimental vaccine and the first human trials are coming soon and they hope that it will be ready by mid to late summer. Do they nowhere? It's going where the is it going to China or is it going here was of allergy and infectious disease here. Yeah Carol Scientists Federal Scientists investigating it and if everything goes well the the clinical trials are going to begin as soon as April vaccine mid to late summer. Well the flash point was supposed to be basically. May I accelerated? Yeah that's about all. I got on the corona virus today other than it has continued to spread. Oh wait there was one thing I just saw on the on the action or the situation report from the World Health Organization that just release they say for the first time since the onset of symptoms of the first identified case there have been more new cases reported from countries outside of China than from countries inside of China so the global spread is what they're so it's the rate of growth is waning and China at not going backwards and if surging. They're slow so that's it's really entering the definition of pants right and you know what's waiting in China. The excuse I give because of the great work into Terry message to contain it. They showed us what to do. Stop Oh my goodness so I do. I have a bunch of stuff mostly. I'm happy to save until tomorrow because I want to hear this thing. Can you know the clearview by you know we? We talked about that on air right. I believe we talked about anyway. I was in the news and I was like why and the guy is kind of just collecting. Everybody's face and he claims scrapes photos from every single source possible on the Internet and puts everybody's face in a digital database that has billions of our images in it that they allowed the FBI and law enforcement around the country to us and the law enforcement agencies admitted that they didn't they had no idea anything about the guy who created this APP. They were using all these images for facial recognition. Scandic A drawl up. All you gotTa do is take picture. Somebody in this database could pull up all the images of them available all of them available and they actually got what Google no limits US right. Terrible words in it is terrible words anyway and they actually got cease and desist letter from twitter and Google after this New York. Times story broke so now this database at the FBI and other law enforcement agencies using it also has law enforcement agencies photos and stuff in. They just announced that they're billions of photos. Our entire client list has been stolen by hackers. Wow imagine who would have predicted. I don't know that was a weird story. When it came out and now she was dropping like this. I think we're GONNA hear their client lists meaning the people were using their facial recognition services or everybody whose face they have because the faces. I don't think have necessarily names on them. I think it's like a fingerprint machine where you could put the face in and it comes up with matches. It says that the intruder gained unauthorized access to its customer list which includes police forces law enforcement agencies and banks and the company said that the person did not obtain search histories conducted by their clients which the client police forces so very helpful to see the search histories. Because then you see what they're up to. Because I wonder what the rules are for. That is that is that ration- public like with this is interesting here. The company retains the photos in their database even after Internet users delete them from platforms or make their accounts private. Yeah oh I believe it once you let something out and it's hard to collect back in. Yeah I wonder what Stephan can celebrate. Say about this. He's all ends Intellectual property he's the intellectual property. Lawyer Very Beloved Libertarian. And he talks about he hasn't really believe in intellectual property. He's if your information if information is out there I can if I can grab it. I it's mine. You can't have the government come into your house and say you're watching a movie on your TV that you didn't make and take your TV or whatever he's like he can't use the government for but anyway I've maybe I'll I'll look into it. I'm sure he's address. These issues look into. That was his name again. Stephanie Can Sela shirked people love him well the Libertarians and the audience alike. Obviously Love Stephan. Console they'd all right so I should I tell you the Harvey Weinstein thing just to add a little salaciousness to the whole conversation. So I didn't mention this yesterday but his lawyer his defense lawyer after he got the verdict read his lawyer said he took it like a man. I heard that. So that's helpful. Oh Yeah it wasn't just dad. Bill Cosby yes. The bill when I read the statement. Would he say his team? Put out this statement. Now have to say. I don't think bill cosby should be jail. I yesterday said I thought the Harvey Weinstein thing was not good for the criminal justice for us to have criminal justice. But you gotta wonder like if these people are trying to lose on purpose or what so. This guy says was lawyers. I think this is not shocking. So the verdict. I don't know because these jurors were not sequestered which gave them access to media coverage and the sentiments of public opinion. There's no way you would have anyone believe that. Mr Weinstein was going to receive a fair and impartial trial. Also this judge showed that he wanted a conviction by sending the jurors back to deliberate after they were hung on many of the cats. Here's the question that should haunt all Americans especially wealthy and famous men. I mean it's like I'm bill. Cosby's like thank you Farrakhan for saying those chicks are asking for. Thank you like. This is what you're emphasizing. It's not quite finished. Those needs in new. Pr Guy is what he needs. Yeah this guy is probably working for not bill cosby. You know what I mean. It's like when the mob when you're in the mob and you get a resident. They send you the mob lawyer. He's not really worried that you may or may not go to jail. He's just trying to figure out if he has to kill you or not they send you a lawyer. But he's not really worried about you so he says. Where do we go in this country to find fairness and impartiality in the judicial system? And where do we go in this country to find due process? Lastly I mean I agree. With lastly if the Hashtag metoo movement isn't just about Becky. Becky has no white women. Does it says Oh racquet white women I guess I thought it was. Carrot is a very like sub demo of Becky so I would challenge. Hashtag me too and ask them to go back. Four hundred plus years and tarnish the names of those oppressors that should be who raped slaves. This is a very sad day and the American judicial system. You know it always bass not all wrong. I'm not saying he don't wrong. It's just that it's your not nobody's GonNa why put especially wealthy and famous men in there. I mean I could think of a thousand examples were wealthy and famous men. Jon corzine Google. John Sign Yeah. Yes I would like Justice John which would mean he'd be in jail forever but he's not. It just baffles me. You're right that's not necessarily wrong but nobody's listening to coming from Bill Cosby's listening to it because they're going absolutely crazy know what he should've tweeted. He should've tweeted to really spend people's minds. He should've tweeted. Thank God justice was finally served in prison. Hashtag METOO straight from Bill Cosby raped me until I get started on it. He's a monster. You guys can find your drive. Time newscasts every weekday afternoons at four. Pm on the proper port dot com favorite podcasting platform with the propaganda report. Podcast feed we will talk to you tomorrow.

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"From New York this is democracy now. I request alimentary middle and high schools and special needs schools to be temporarily closed from March second until spring vacation. Japan closes schools to contain the spread of the corona virus as the disease spreads to at least forty seven countries and every continent except and Arctic president. Trump downplays concerns because of all. We've done the risk to the American people remains very low greatest experts in the world. Really in the world right here. We're ready to adapt and we're ready to do whatever we have to. As the disease spreads if it spreads as trump spoke was reported person was diagnosed with the corona virus in California would not travel to any of the affected regions of the world nor had known contact with anyone. Who did it's called community spread we'll speak with Pulitzer Prize winning science writer. Laurie Garrett who says trump has sabotaged. America's Corona virus response will also talk to science investigative journalist. Sonia shop about the connection between Corona virus and climate change her book pandemic tracking contagion from cholera to Ebola and beyond then as trump leaves India the death toll from anti Muslim violence. In New Delhi has risen to at least thirty four twenty to twenty five people started beating me. The rest are standing by. If they were watching your show. There were thousands behind them. They kept hitting me. Nobody came forward to save me somehow. Some people came from the other side. I was like unconscious that didn't have much consciousness. My clothes drenched in blood. We'll go to New Delhi for the latest all that and more coming up. Welcome to democracy now democracy now dot or the Warren Peace Report. I'm Amy Goodman. Us Health officials said Wednesday. They've identified the first case of Corona virus infection by person who had not traveled to any of the effect regions of the world nor have known contact with anyone else who did the case in northern California came as governments worldwide took increasingly severe measures to stop the transmission of the virus which causes respiratory trouble and is sometimes fatal. In Saudi Arabia officials have banned Muslim pilgrims from entering the country to visit the holy cities of Mecca and Medina in South Korea. The number of corona virus cases has passed seventeen hundred making it the largest outbreak outside of China the US and South Korea Wednesday called off joint military exercises indefinitely. Meanwhile Japan says the Twenty Twenty Summer Olympics are still scheduled to take place in the capital Tokyo in the US. President trump has sought repeatedly to dismiss the threat of the virus tweeting on Wednesday morning quote. Low ratings fake news. Ms DNC COMCAST AND CNN. Are doing everything possible to make. The Corona virus look as bad as possible including panicking markets. If possible likewise they're incompetent do nothing Democrat car. Ads Are all talk no action USA in great shape exclamation point. President Trump tweeted misspelling. The word Corona virus trump's comments prompted alarm among Congress members both Democrat and Republican this Democratic Congress member Joe Kennedy of Massachusetts Questioning Health and Human Services Secretary Alex as our on Wednesday secretary. I I don't want to panic over this either. The stock market's crashing. He's trying to stop stock market. He's not he's he's outright contradicting everything. That you all have just said outright contradiction. Eckes expressing confidence in with no medical basis for. That's what you've just explained to us on Sir there. He's expressing that there. He's expressing that the American people need to take a breath here that there's no change to anyone's daily life from this that the country has a plan. We have pandemic plans last late on Wednesday. President Trump held a news conference at the White House saying he's tapped Vice President. Mike Pence to coordinate federal response to the corona virus. Pence's not a public health expert and has governor of Indiana slashed public health spending and is widely blamed for an outbreak of HIV in his home state meanwhile the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta is warning the true number of US Corona virus cases might be higher than reported because test kits sent out nationwide earlier this month. Included a faulty component after headlines will spend the rest of the hour discussing the growing threat of the corona virus in Milwaukee. Wisconsin gunman opened fire inside a sprawling. Molson coors brewery Wednesday killing five people before taking his own life. The shooter was identified as a fifty one year. Old Man who worked at the factory complex police have not yet identified a motive in killing an immigration news. A new report by Physicians for Human Rights finds the trump administration separation of families at the US. Mexico border is tantamount to torture. The report studied seventeen adults and nine. Children separated for about two months. Under trump's so called zero tolerance policy finding people experience shocked terror and grief constituting cruel unusual and degrading treatment. The report warns of long lasting effects of family. Separations people put at higher risk of anxiety. Depression Psychosis and addiction along. With higher rates of chronic medical conditions like cardiovascular disease and premature death in Arizona Federal prosecutors Wednesday dropped a misdemeanor charge against humanitarian aid. Volunteers Scott Warren. One day before he was to be sentenced for driving on protected lands to drop water food and other aid to migrants crossing the Sonoran desert. The single misdemeanor count was the last Church faced by Scott Warren. Who at one point faced up to twenty years in Federal Prison for felony charges of harboring migrants after he provided food water and shelter to a pair of men who barely survived their journey into the US after first trial ended in a hung jury Scott? Warren was acquitted of felony charges in the second trial to see our full coverage of Warren case including our trip with him on a water. Drop in the Sonoran Desert. Last summer go to democracy now. Dot Org. The House of Representatives voted four hundred ten to four Thursday to make lynching a federal hate. Crime the Emmett till Anti Lynching Act was named for the fourteen year old African American boy. Who's killing sixty? Five years ago remains one of the most terrific examples of racial terror in the Jim Crow South if signed into law by President Trump. The bill will finally end what proponents say have been two hundred failed. Attempts to pass similar legislation this is California Democrat African American Congresswoman Karen Bass who co-sponsored the Anti Lynching. Bill One thousand nine hundred thirty editorial in Raleigh News and observer noted the elation of the audience witnessing a lynching as follows girls giggled as the flies fed on. The blood that dripped from the NEGROES. Knows lynchings were brutal violent and savage public spectacles as I said. They were advertised in newspapers and postcards. Were sold. Souvenirs were made from victims remains. Federal officials said Wednesday. They've arrested five members of a far-right white nationalist group who are conspiring to threaten and intimidate journalists and activists around the United States. Us prosecutors say members of the Neo Nazi group Autumn Waffen threatened black and Jewish journalists in Arizona and the Seattle area while others harassed and threatened unnamed reporter from PROPUBLICA. The reporter is likely journalists. Thompson who's written extensively about Autumn Watson and one of its leaders. John Cameron Denton. Who is among those arrested on? Wednesday in Media News. Abc has suspended veteran correspondent David Right. After far right activists published secretly recorded video in which right complains about President trump and corporate control of the mass media and the seven minute highly edited video posted online by the group. Project Veritas. Right is overheard calling himself a socialist favors national health insurance and stating there too many billionaires in too big a wealth gap right goes on to say the quote commercial imperative is incompatible with news and ABC's parent company Disney for cross promoting. It's entertainment brands and shows like good morning. America Project Veritas. A RIGHT WING GROUP. That often sets up sting operations targeting planned parenthood journalists and activists by recording covert videos and releasing deceptively edited footage. The group's founder. James O'Keefe was convicted on a misdemeanor charge after. He attempted to wiretap the phones of then. Us Senator Mary Landrieu in two thousand ten in response to its latest sting operation media critic. Dan Franken called Project Veritas loathsome but said in this case the group had done the. Us favor from can wrote quote. The group sneaky surveillance has uncovered someone speaking profound truths about how commercial pressures have skewed media. Corporate media's political news values not toward making things up but torch turning it all into shallow value neutral entertainment unquote in Saudi Arabia. Us Marines held joint military exercises Wednesday with their Saudi counterparts on that King Abdulaziz Naval Base. The war games along the Persian Gulf War widely seen as a warning to Iran. The joint exercises came as he rebels in northern. Yemen launched a new offensive following a recent increase. In the number of us-backed Saudi led coalition airstrikes in Yemen. More than one hundred thousand people have died far more have been displaced in. Saudi Arabia began. Its War on Yemen. In two thousand fifteen. The support of the Obama Administration at the time in Philadelphia. Seven Jewish activists were arrested. Tuesday outside Joe Biden's campaign headquarters calling on the presidential contender to skip the annual conference of APEC. The American Israel Public Affairs Committee members of the Progressive Jewish organization if not now are demanding biden reverse decades of support for occupation of the West Bank in Gaza. I is head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and later as vice president. The protests came as the presidential campaigns of Amy Klobuchar and people to judge said they would not attend this year's APEC conference following similar moves by Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders in a statement if not now co founder Danny Muskovich wrote quote. Even moderates in the Democratic Party are now refusing to attend a conference by a right wing lobby that allies with bigots just to shield the Israeli government for many consequence for denying the Palestinian people freedom and dignity unquote billionaire former New York City mayor and Democratic presidential hopeful. Michael Bloomberg is scheduled to attend the APEC conference in March as a keynote speaker in Puerto Rico. Transgender activists was shot and killed early Monday morning just hours after someone called police to complain that she'd used a public restroom at a McDonald's disturbing video posted to social media appears to show the final moment of new Lisa Luciano reasons life as her attackers followed her in a car before opening. Fire with at least ten gunshots. Local police say they suspect four. Teenagers were involved in the murder. Reese was at least the second transgender non conforming person murdered in the US in twenty twenty and climate news. The trump administration's abruptly halted a project to protect the New York City region from flooding due to rising seas and extreme weather just weeks after president trump mocked plans to build a sea wall to protect the city as costly foolish and environmentally unfriendly. The move ends in nineteen million dollar project by the Army Corps of Engineers to research. What steps would protect residents of coastal New York New Jersey along with low lying areas of New York Harbor and on Capitol Hill near Congressman Alexandra? Cossio Cortez read the entirety of the green new deal into the congressional record Wednesday one year after she. I introduce the historic legislation. Realized that many of my colleagues have never even read the resolution that they're speaking on they haven't opened a single word of it and it's actually only about. I have it right in front of me. Just fourteen pages long so I have decided that since my colleagues some of my colleagues across the aisle could not for some reason read the resolution that perhaps this hour would be spent best reading it to them in new deal seeks to bring the US to net zero greenhouse gas emissions in ten years well investing in public transit and federal jobs fully transitioning the US electricity grid off fossil fuels and codifying indigenous peoples rights prior consent and approval for decisions that affect them and those are some of the headlines. This is democracy now democracy now DOT ORG the Warren Peace Report. I mean me. Goodman the corona virus disease that was first diagnosed in China's who bay province has now spread to at least forty seven countries and every continent except Antarctica. The World Health Organization has declared the outbreak and international health emergency. Nearly three thousand people have died so far more than eighty one thousand have now been infected with the virus that causes the respiratory disease covert nineteen to contain the spread of the corona virus in Japan. Where the number of cases has reached two hundred today. The Prime Minister Shinzo obey called for schools to close so cool. I request all elementary middle and high schools and special needs schools to be temporarily closed from March second until spring vacation. Meanwhile Japan says the Twenty Twenty Summer Olympics are still scheduled to take place in the capital Tokyo and South Korea the number of corona virus cases past seventeen hundred making it the largest outbreak outside of China at least one. Us soldier stationed at a base in the area has tested positive for the virus and the US and South Korea have called off joint military exercises. This comes as the government of Iran says at least two hundred forty five people have been infected and twenty six died but experts say the toll is likely much higher. Meanwhile officials in Kuwait reported forty three new cases in Saudi Arabia's taken the unprecedented step of barring Muslim pilgrims from entering the country to visit the holy cities of Mecca Medina here in the United States. President trump downplayed the threat from corona virus and announced vice president. Mike Pence would be his point person to coordinate government efforts to prevent a widespread outbreak. Because of all we've done the risk to the American people remains very low. We have the greatest experts in the really in the world right here. We're ready to adapt and we're ready to do whatever we have to. As the disease spreads it spreads as trump spoke at his White House. News conference a new milestone in. The Corona virus outbreak was reported in a possible example of community spread. A person was with the virus in northern California would not travel to any of the affected regions of the world. Know or had known contact with anyone else who did officials say they don't know how the person was exposed begun tracing the person's contacts in order to determine how they got sick on Wednesday morning. Trump tweeted quote low ratings fake news. Ms DNC COMCAST AND CNN. Are doing everything possible to make. The Corona virus look as bad as possible including panicking markets. If possible likewise they're incompetent do nothing. Democrat comrades. Are All talk no action USA in great shape. President Trump tweeted misspelling. The Word Corona virus this Democratic Congress member Joe Kennedy of Massachusetts Questioning Health and Human Services. Secretary Alex as our Wednesday secretary. I I don't want to panic over this either. The stock market's crashing. He's trying to stop the stock market. He's not try. He's he's outright contradicting everything that. You all have just said outright contradiction. He's expressing confidence in with no medical basis for. That's what you've just explained to us. Come on Sir there. He's expressing that there. He's expressing that. The American people need to take a breath here that there's no change to anyone's daily life from this that the country has a plan. We had pandemic plans. Meanwhile the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta's warning the true number of US Corona virus cases might be higher than reported because test kits sent out nationwide early. This month couldn't included a faulty component to break down the news on the outbreak worldwide. And here in this country. We're joined here in New York by Laurie. Garrett former senior fellow for global health at the Council on Foreign Relations Pulitzer Prize winning science writer author of several books including a Bola story of an outbreak. The coming plague newly emerging diseases in a world out of balance and betrayal of trust the collapse of global public health in recent piece for foreign policy. She wrote trump has sabotaged. America's Corona virus response and she has another piece how China's incompetence endangered the world. Laurie welcome back to democracy. Now it's great to have you with us So talk about the first news conference. President trump has held at the White House as he appointed. He wouldn't call him the czar but as he appointed vice president pence as the person the point person on dealing with the corona virus. Well pence needed some job besides space force so now he has something to do in the White House but all joking aside hence is not a medical expert and he certainly is not someone who's demonstrated particularly great amount of respect for science when he was governor of the State of Indiana The OPIOID crisis started in southern Indiana. And he suddenly. People were injecting opioids. He went to his God and came back and told the legislature that he did not believe that any human being should receive sterile syringes to assist them and being a drug addict His own legislature countered him veto countered vetoed meanwhile according to a study published by Yale University. At least two hundred and fifty people got infected with HIV as a result of this crazy policy and he also of course defunding planned parenthood leading the movement in Congress and they had the one HIV testing site in the area and it was the Indiana Model. That president trump cited in saying that he was qualified to lead this effort. Now let's talk about what's happening here while it is said that the. Us has far fewer cases of corona virus in anywhere else. In fact there is almost no testing. I can't say that we don't have a lot of cases at the last time I looked at the the count we had tested. Four hundred and fifty six people in the entire United States to put that in comparison in Seoul South Korea loan. They've tested thirty five thousand. Now you're not gonNA find cases if you're testing four hundred and fifty six people out of two hundred and sixty million. Americans. You're GONNA to miss quite a number what we should be doing right at this moment. The most urgent thing we should be doing is testing every single pneumonia patient. That is hospitalized. Because if there's likely to be a sneak through of this epidemic. It's going to come through as a pneumonia patient. It's going to be diagnosed as flu or some other cause And actually going to be this corona virus and Kovic nineteen will break out in the hospital ward because what we've seen all over the world so far is these outbreaks really explode when they hit one of two things a religious site where you have large concentrations of people coming in for a religious festival of some sort for a hospital and if the index of suspicion isn't very very high among the healthcare workers well cruise ship. That's a whole. That's just a petri dish. But if the rate is the healthcare workers aren't really on their toes. Really alert thinking what if and they don't have the right protective gear then as they examined that patient they become infected. And so this is. This is our problem right now now. This particular case in northern California is very worrying because the individual lived in a rural area was not a traveler. Didn't know any travelers was a local worker of some sort of detail. Sixty one year old male and was in various health facilities getting misdiagnosed and it was the health providers themselves who were saying to the public health of California. Which was intern saying a two CD IN ATLANTA? We want this person tested for the corona virus. We think that's what this is and the CDC said Nah doesn't look like it and didn't do a test on Capitol Hill lawmakers grilled senior administration officials over their response to the crisis. This is Louisiana Republican senator. John Kennedy who on Tuesday blasted the acting homeland secretary Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf for struggling to produce basic facts about the corona virus outbreak to keep aside budget supports the men and women land security. Yes Sir and you can't tell me what I would tell you. Is that the budget my budget. Our operations are focused. Not only in the men and women of D H S making sure. They're protected to do their jobs to screen individuals coming in we're working with. Hhs on in their budget. They answered to ensure that they have enough medical. Legally enough face masks we for the Department of Homeland Security that Askin for the Department of Homeland. Are you ask him for the for the for the entire American public? Yes no I would say probably not short. I don't have that number off hand senator. I will get that for you. Okay but but I WANNA be shot understand. Somebody yes sir is doing modeling. On how many cases were anticipated? He is not aware of that. You're asking me a number of medical questions mask. I could carry on Homeland Security. And you're supposed to keep a safe. Yes Sir and you need to know the answers to these questions and have far away away from getting a vaccine in several months. But that's not what we just heard. Testimony about okay. Who's on first here? So that was the Republican Louisiana senator. John Kennedy a questioning the head of Homeland Security Chad Wolf Laurie Garrett pretty abysmal situation where where we all right now is that everybody is recognizing oops it was a big mistake by the trump administration to obliterate the entire infrastructure pandemic response that the Obama Administration had created. Why did he do it? Well certainly wasn't about the money because it wasn't a heavily funded program it was certainly because it was. Obama's program explain you're talking about the unit within the Centers for Disease Control. No we're talking about something much faster than that. It was a special division inside the National Security Council a special division inside of the Department of Homeland Security. That Bozo was talking from and Collaborating centers in. Hey Chess headquarters in Washington the office of Global Health Affairs and the Commerce Department Treasury Department. But what what Obama understood dealing with Ebola in two thousand fourteen is that any American response had to be an all of government response that there were so many agencies overlapping and they all had a little piece of the puzzle in the case of a pandemic just mental exercise with me if we if we get to situation where we're anything like what's going on in China right now. Then our department of Commerce our department transportation and our department of USDA would have to collaborate to get food deliveries all over America. So that parts of America don't starve and you could see in China convoys hundreds of eighteen wheeler vehicles completely full of food coming into hun every single day. Do we have the capacity to coordinate? That what the Obama Administration realized with it. You can't corral multiple agencies and things from private sector as well as public sector to come to the aid of America unless you have some one person in charge who's really the manager of it all. And in his case it was Ron Clain who had worked under Vice President Biden and he was designated with an office inside the White House to give orders and coordinate all these various things. Well that was all eliminated. It's gone and now. They're hastily trying to recreate something. And last night. There were many names tossed around about who he was going to appoint as head of the response he had previously on the record. President trump saying I have great. Faith and secretary is our and my. Hhs Secretary will be in charge and we're told from multiple sources that right up until they got onstage for that press briefing as our thought he was in charge and then the president says an. Here's my good friend Mike Pence and he's taking charge well. There are reports. That trump was very angry that as our had even raised the concerns. He did publicly. Because trump was majorly concerned about the markets and that he had brought people in to the United States from the cruise ship they were Americans and they were as you were saying sitting in a petri dish that cruise ship of thousands hundreds of people got infected. Even when they were in lockdown which coaching thousand in many very well ended up at half of the crew passengers will be infected before that story finished his playing out. I want to turn to president trump and dressing reporters Wednesday night at the White House. Press briefing room. One of the reporters question trump on his comments about how former President Obama handled the Ebola outbreak in two thousand fourteen. I WanNa talk to you during the crisis. You said you wanted to fol travel ban. You said Mama was important for stubborn joke not for doing it. You said just stopped the flight studies you also said he was quote unquote total Joe To appoint someone to lead the fuller response with votes zero experience in the medical field. Now you listen to a lot of what I had this Sunday. Let's listen to a lot because it's a much different problem than e Bala Bala. You disintegrated especially at the beginning. They've made a lot of progress now but with a ball and we were talking about before you disintegrated. You gotTa Bala. That was it This one is different much different. This is a flu. This is like a flu and this is a much different situation than a ball but and we'll work it unabomber right now by the way we're working on. Certain areas of the Congo. The Congo has Ebola and caused largely by the fact that they have war and people can't get there. We can now treat Ebola in that at that time. It was infectious. And you couldn't treat it. Nobody knew anything about it. Nobody had ever heard of anything like this. So it's a much different situation. So that was president trump. Laurie Garrett you wrote a book about Ebola. You wrote Ebola the story of an outbreak but also now they're trying to take money from the Ebola budget dealing with the bowling not to mention slash the CDC's budget you. His latest budget. That went to Congress was cutting health services this country. Yeah well we've gotten used to trump being upheld contradictions and misstatements but in the case of epidemic is incredibly dangerous. I think part of what Donald Trump's been doing is even playing to rush limbaugh and the far right because they have started a narrative that says will they have to narratives one is There isn't any epidemic. This is all fake. News exaggerating everything to undermine. Trump's bid for reelection. There's a lot of that going on rush. Limbaugh is leading that charge another narrative out there coming from the right is this was all made in a laboratory in China and this is an evil bioterrorism. Something or other and our president has to show strength at this time both are lies and both people who play around a lot on social media regardless of their political stance are absorbing them because they don't understand where it's coming from. I wanted to go to a CNN. Reporter Marshall Cohen tweeting quote rush limbaugh and right wing fringe sites are attacking Dr Nancy a top. Cdc official handling the corona virus response. Because she is Rod Rosenstein sister. They're spreading the lie that she's part of the deep state and trying to tank the markets to weaken trump unquote. This is a clip of Dr Messenger discussing the Corona virus crisis some community level interventions. That may be most effective in reducing the spread of new virus like school. Closures are also the most likely to be associated with unwanted consequences and further disruptions secondary consequences of some of these measures might include missed work and loss of income. I understand this whole situation may seem overwhelming and that disruption to everyday life maybe severe but these are things that people need to start thinking about now. So That's Dr Nancy Messing you Laurie Garrett. Yeah well she's right and we all need to be getting ready. I mean we don't need to be distracted by this insane political situation. We need to be focused on what we're going to do when this virus sweeps across America and it's no longer a distant crazy idea of the kind of things. I received death threats every time. I'm on your show. Somebody calls and tries to kill me and every time I'm on your show. I get loonies telling me. They know of a secret cure. You know. It's the stuff you wrote off a tree or it's this thing you put under your pillow or whatever and if I don't show positive response and say Oh yeah I'm GonNa tell America to use that junk. You scraped off a tree. Then they threatened me and I you know it's there are people who want any epidemic situation to be something they can exploit for a set of principles they have ideas but this is not the moment for that. We have a very narrow window America to get our act together and get your act together. Means at an individual level at a community level at a business level at a school level. It even seems that president trump doesn't understand the deadly nature of this. He was being questioned by Sanjay. Gupta CNN at that news conference and he did not seem to understand that. The Corona Virus is. What twenty times more deadly than the flu? No more like two thousand times. I'm no way he. He completely got his numbers wrong. Although numbers probably are not his forte to begin with the he said we'll let's say a correctly rather than misinform. The Corona virus mortality rate is running somewhere between two to four percent. And depending where you look in which population groups here in the nineteen eighteen flu. Which was the most devastating influenza and the history of our species was less than two percent. So this is already more lethal than the pandemic of nineteen eighteen garden variety everyday flu. It's about zero point. One to zero point zero one percent fatal final comments as we look at what's happening in the world every continent but Antarctica. What does it mean to have a unified response? Well we won't have a unified response. We don't it's fragmented it's fragmented within countries and it's fragmented among countries already everybody sealing their borders. Everybody starts saying no. You can't fly here you can. Well we're going to see and what's unfolding now and the reason that the smart guys on the stock market are getting upset. Is that the whole globalization system the the chain of supply and shipping is fragmenting fragmenting amid fear and amid the false idea that in the age of air travel. You could somehow stop a virus but just saying no no no. You're not allowed to land at that airport. Well how did this fellow way up in northern California in a rural area get infected We've been screening at San Francisco Airport since day one of this mess so i. I think that the problem is we don't have a solidified response and what you're GonNa see already playing out. Is this nimby attitude. You know we already have states saying we're not going to allow you to put quarantine people in our state ship them to another state and Oh. My state has plenty of Mass on supply. We're not sharing with the Bozos next door. In every tabletop exercise I've ever been in for the last thirty years role playing. What would happen in an outbreak? The solidarity between the states of the United States completely breaks down states put borders. They won't let you come on a highway in the they blocked goods from leaving the state. No the That may be destined for Illinois. But WE IN INDIANA WANT THOSE SUPPLIES. You can't take them to Illinois. Well we're going to leave it there now but of course we'll continue to cover this laurie. Garrett the former senior fellow at for Global Health at the Council on Foreign Relations Pulitzer Prize winning science writer among her books bowl. A story of an outbreak. The coming plague newly-emerging diseases in a world out of balance betrayal of trust the collapse of global public health. When we come back. Is there a connection between the corona virus and climate change? Stay with US Allen Wars of faith bio machine. This is democracy now. I may you continue to look at the spread of the corona virus with cases now diagnosed in at least forty seven countries and on every continent save Antarctica. Nearly three thousand people have died so far. The World Health Organization declared the outbreak and international health. Emergency for more. We're joined from Cleveland Ohio. Sonia Shah Science Investigative Journalist and the author of pandemic tracking contagion from cholera twohey. Bola and beyond her new book is titled The Next Great Migration The beauty and terror of life on the move. Her latest article published in the nation. Think exotic animals are to blame for the corona virus? Think again explain Sonia shot and thanks so much for joining us. Thanks for having me So what what? I was trying to get in. That article was this fact. That over the past fifty years. We've had over three hundred new pathogens either newly emerge in that never been seen before or come into new places where they've never been before this novel viruses just one of a whole spate of other pathogens. We've seen Ebola in west Africa where it had never been seen before Zepa in the Americas where it had never been seen before new kinds of tick borne diseases new kinds of mosquito borne diseases new of highly drug resistant bacterial pathogens and we know that about sixty percent of these new pathogens originate in the bodies of animals about seventy percent of those are in wild animals. But it's not because wild animals are particularly infested. It's because of the way. Humans and wildlife are coming into novel intimate contact and that is because of human activities. So talk about this connection between climate crisis and the corona virus. We're not hearing very much about this. Well we know in a general sense that climate the climate crisis is resulting in tens of thousands of wild species moving into new places. It's scrambling migration patterns an so. That's going to contribute to this broader phenomenon of people and wildlife coming into new kinds of contact with for example deforestation. That when you cut down the trees where bats roost for example they don't just go away they come in roost in your back gardens and farms and your yards instead and that allows people in bats to come into contact in the microbes that live in their bodies which don't cause them any kind of disease can spill over into human bodies and that's how we turned animal microbes into these epidemic and pandemic causing pathogens. So how should this be dealt with? How should people understand? The Corona Virus Diseases always exists but how're epidemics and pandemics preventable infectious diseases? Always going to exist. We live on a microbial planet. So that's part of the human condition. We're not going to get rid of all of the microbes nor would we ever want to But pandemics are something that we can do a lot to prevent. There's a lot we can do to protect wildlife habitat for example so that the microbes in animal's body. Stay in their bodies and don't cross over into our bodies. We can do a lot to do active surveillance to actually look for microbes at might be turning into human pathogens and tried to contain them before they start to cause epidemics and that is scientific work that has been really successful the past ten years so if we have the political will to continue funding that kind of research. There's a lot we can do to reduce the risk of pandemics. This is Congress. Member Jan Schakowsky questioning health and Human Services Secretary. Alex as our Wednesday about whether the corona virus will be affordable to all. You're saying it will for sure be affordable for anyone who needs it. I'm saying we would. We would want to ensure that we work to make it affordable. We can't control that price because we need the private sector to invest the priority vaccines under control. Get us there. Schakowsky tweeted following the hearing. She gave as our three chances to assure us that. Any Corona virus vaccines are treatments developed with. Us taxpayer dollars. It'll be affordable accessible to everyone and he flat out refused to do so Sonia Shah. I mean it's just reprehensible I think there's a there's a well understood principle in the global health community that these are commodities that we need to make public. So you know this. This is like a real failure of leadership and it's it's actually it's a travesty. Finally what do you feel the corporate media? The mainstream media is missing here. That you feel is essential for people to understand. I think there's a sense. In which we kind of frame narrative around disease outbreaks something foreign like an encroachment from outside that invades us in posits us these passive victims but actually and I think that really obscures the larger story. Which is that. There's a lot of human agency involved in how we're turning microbes into pathogenic and pandemic causing pathogens. So I think we need to recast the whole way. We talk about. Disease is not a problem a foreign invasion. We talk a lot about Places when we talk about where diseases come from. We talk about the Wuhan flu or the Spanish Influenza even though that influenza did not originate span in Spain. So there's a sense in which we want to try to make. It seem like these foreign things that are coming to get us and encroach upon us and it's a habit of mine that we have around a lot of other subjects as well But I think that obscure is what our role is. And there's a lot we can do and that we are doing. We are turning a lot of these microbes into these pathogenic microbes. Instead and finally the trump administration gutting the very government programs. That were tasked to deal with something like this. The CDC cut eighty percent of its efforts to prevent global disease outbreaks because it was quote running out of money. The department went from working in forty nine countries to just ten with president trump and his isolationist tendencies. You know why give money to other countries explain why Sonia Shah well. I think the program that's been cut. That probably protected us from unknown pathogens. We don't know how how much we've been. Protected is the predict program which funded was through the USA and funded scientists to actually look for microbes and might be turning into pathogens and over ten years they found about nine hundred different microbes. That might be doing that. And we're able to contain them at their source so that's and that's the kind of program that the trump administration also cut and the. I think the reason they gave was that they were uncomfortable. Funding cutting edge. Science will soon shy. WanNa thank you for being with us. Science investigative journalist author of pandemic tracking contagion from cholera to Ebola and beyond this says Democracy Now Democracy Now dot Org Warren Peace Report. We will link to her piece in the Nation magazine that she just wrote called think exotic animals are to blame for the corona virus. Think again when we come back as trump leaves India the death toll from anti Muslim violence in New Delhi has risen to at least thirty four. We'll go to Delhi stay with us. Who says the man who stole your land because Suit says his whole children is moving. We remember Zulu Dependency Committee Birthright by Sarah. The core this is democracy. Now I mean he could mean as we go now to India where the death toll from anti Muslim violence in Delhi has risen to at least thirty four with police accused of standing by as Hindu. Nationalist MOBS assault Muslims. The violence began Sunday. When groups of Hindus attacked peaceful sit ins of Muslims protesting against Hindu nationalist Prime Minister Narendra Modi's new citizenship law which widely restricts Muslim immigration to India this is Mohammed Zubeir. Who said he was on his way home from local mosque and Northeast? New Delhi when he was attacked by a mob girl. Twenty to twenty five people started beating me. The rest were standing by as if they were watching a show. They were thousands behind them. The kept hitting me. Nobody came forward to save me different. Somehow some people came from the other side. I was like unconscious have much consciousness my clothes drenched in blood minister. Modi's said nothing is. The violence continued for days instead hosting President. Donald Trump on a two-day state visit in which trump he praised on the Indian prime minister. This is trump speaking about mody at a news conference in back in Washington Wednesday. He's a great gentleman a great leader. It's an incredible country We were treated very very well and we really enjoyed it. A lot of tremendous progress was made in terms of relationship. A relationship with India's extraordinary right now and we're going to be doing a lot of business with India they're sending billions and billions of dollars now to the United States on Sunday. Human rights lawyer. Arjun Sethi called. Modiin Trump. The worst kind of fascist. He tweeted both Modiin. Trump have criminalize minority communities championed fake news and persecuted descent promoted supremacist ideologies and played on the racism anxiety of dominant communities unquote. Mody BROKE HIS SILENCE. Wednesday calling for peace on twitter but many critics have noted. The Indian Prime Minister served as the Chief Minister of Gujarat. One of India's worst anti-muslim riots took place in two thousand and two that left at least a thousand people dead after the bloodshed the US State Department revoked. Modi's visa saying it could not grant visas to any foreign government official who was responsible for or directly carried out at any time particularly severe violations of Religious Freedom Unquote. Modena's never apologize for or explained his actions at the time. Well for more. We're joined by to guess from democracy now video stream in New Delhi. Nia addiction is with US independent journalist based there Her investigative reporting focuses on Politics Gender and social justice recipient of the two thousand Nineteen International. Press Freedom Award from the committee to Protect Journalists an ethic of New York speaking to us from Cornell University Prio Paul. Who's on the Faculty of English at the University of Cambridge? In Britain author of insurgent Empire Anti colonial resistance and British descent. We welcome you both to democracy. Now let's begin with and they had dixit in New Delhi. Tell us what has happened there in the wake of president trump's trip what took place in New Delhi Tonto. Ap The last days you've seen Astana violence in various parts of new a New Delhi especially in the northeastern district. As of now the death toll has gone up to thirty four. But the people are still in the process of of of finding dead bodies everywhere and Finding good easing count. What happened on Sunday? Was that a lot? Since December of two thousand nineteen seven people across the national capital have been protesting against the Citizenship Citizenship Amendment Act. That was passed a not obese. Protest Todd had been led by women and with the participation of various other communities against a law that is that exclude Muslims so on Sunday. Night a rule CA group Brawl Citizenship Arraignment Act Group which was led by a member of the body the body the BJP which is all these Balki they came there this Bjp member going couple shot. Who's onto a former employee of the member of Legislative Assembly? Danny he said he incited violence as evidence of that saying that the process should move and go back and destroy Sunday night yesterday evening. The violence continues on lots of school office packing guarded. Most of these working class Muslim areas of a large mall has been reported in various parts are stupid painting using tear-gas he using petrol bombs at all. This happened in the presence of police that have been several videos that show that the police is standing while this kind of violence as being met to dial out by the mob on on the people in these neighborhoods. The other thing also happened was that this is the first time yesterday. I seen amid seventy but who would enjoyed apart from petrol bombs and guns and dodges. A acid was used on several people which is why lots of people have lost. It is have typed damaged faces again Each time somebody tried to stop them from DAX. The police did not hit them instead. bystanders bystanders. Also the police also joined at several places. Hindus Rogan's Down so this has been a situation Has Been The situation the last three days. Thirty four people who've been killed the bodies are still at the hospitals post-mortems conducted but lack of government support Latte. Lack of administrative support has led to a norton though tiny treatments for the people who've been injured and this has been brewing for the last two and a half months since the government Boston. Citizenship Amendment Act because exclusively is MS main to keep out the Muslim community in in the country and while these protests were resorting to nonviolence and constitutionalism clearly. This Guy. Violence was used. I'm not just the Speeches have been used in the recent elections on so it has created in Moss Fiat by the silence of the Prime Minister under whose jurisdiction under the central government. And WHO's the police? The Delhi Police is under that anybody who raises a right-wing Hindu nationalist slogans Agenda forward on the road enjoy impunity and not encouraged by this kind of silence from Modiin the other ministers. And can you tell me? How is this in any way? Were what just happened in New Delhi? Is it related to president trump being there and then being in? Gujarat one hundred thousand people for this noma stay trump rally in answer to trump going to Houston Welcoming Modi at that. Howdy mody rally. I would definitely say that the guy of Islamaphobia that we have seen in the recent past in the last few years in India is also kind of engaged by best jump in the way they he has featured the minorities every is this kind of his level will be easy encouraged by this guy. Andrew Silence onto from visiting dump because he was asked a question during the press conference and he did not respond to it. So there is a clear connection on so the fact that these elements are emboldened by the visits of somebody like trump on recently onto had to narrow. President Bernard over Brazil who kind of share similar principles when it comes to wine auditees when it comes to climate when it comes to the honesty that leads to displacement and Wendy. There is no reaction from them intact. They're seen as endorsing president Prime Minister of India. There is a kind of encouragement for such things. He'll I would also like to see that. This is the first time not the first time but I would say the ignored in deducing boss man journalists in the last few days but actually attacked by mobs in the presence of Police. David asked for their religion so several known Hindu journalists championed and they were forced to delete their videos forced to delete photos. They were brutally attacked. Some of the Hindu John Lewis had to identify say Hindu prayers so that they are let off by the mall and this is unprecedented in this kind of situation. No even reporting what is happening with a certain community has become such a problem. The the other thing that happened was that lots of people who would enjoy an wooden small nursing homes needed Beta facilities needed to be transferred to a bigger hospitals. Ambulances would not allow the police to ANC does so which is why on a Tuesday midnight. Some of the members of the suicide. You tried to contact Heikal. The High Court at midnight buy bought some injured aid Austin or does seeing that ambulance should immediately allowed by the Delhi police including several other things also one of the judges who said that they should not become like a nineteen eighty-four situation in nineteen eighty-four several the daily witnessed genocide of the community. I'm today behavior that that judge has been transferred so I also want to point out that the institutions the police the judiciary and the other people in the administration who are supposed to protect the constitutional rights of people in India in a secular India are also under grieved under the political pressure. Right now I WANNA bring in pre ago Paul to this discussion. You're now in Ithaca at Cornell University Your twitter thread has been extremely significant in saying we have to reshape the framework that this is being seen around the world and the language. That's being. Please explain professor. Go Paul. Well I think that we have to drop the language of clashes and even riots and communal violence a lot of the language certainly in the British press and I think in the American press has been presenting this as a conflict between and opposite sides as a kind of religious fighter does not a religious fight. We are witnessing situation. Not Very deep structural violence. There is a a majoritarian supremacist party. In power in India and mobster directly incited by senior Indian. Politicians are roaming around in Muslim majority areas. Identifying Muslim shops businesses home setting them on fire identifying Muslims. Beating them up. There is some pushback. Certainly as as you might expect but this is not a situation of equality and I said that any press outfit which refers to this as clashes clashes between Hindus and Muslims or even as kind of riots is actually culpable off a dereliction of duty and certainly of critical analysis. This is not a situation where equal and opposite forces are in conflict. It's not even a civil war. What we have is a very dangerous supremacist ideology. That is now out on the streets and I'm afraid the parallels with one thousand nine hundred thirties. Germany are extremely clear. What is taking place in Delhi? In the last couple of days is comparable to the Rice Kristallnacht when Jewish businesses were attacked and set on fire? And I think that the world really needs to wake up to the gravity of the situation in India because we are in a situation not unlike what was happening in Germany in the nineteen thirties in. Its twenty first century variation. But I think that to just play this out of conflicts and clashes religious fights I think is is deeply responsible and president trump paying homage to Gandhi. And at the same time hailing his three billion dollar military helicopter deal with mody the significance of trump's relationship with mody. We just have thirty seconds while. I'm afraid that you know more has to be set. In the context of the global rise of nationalism. Trump is a kind of apprentice to mow the rather than the other way around trump. I think watches the situation in India and probably sees this as really a fantasy. Come true the using of Gandhi to sanitize out what is happening in India is now in all story and trump is simply picking up the narrative that has already been peddled by Indian state. But this is not Ghandi's India by a long shot. What we have here is violent supremacism out on the streets of India and if the world doesn't take notice then like the corona virus this is also going to spread and we will all pay the price pre apollo and thank you for being with US lecture at the University of Cambridge Energy and independent journalists based in New Delhi India. And well of course. We'll continue to follow this study tune in Tuesday night for Democracy Now. 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