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"jamie horowitz" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"One didn't make any sense whatsoever and then the. Up In and I do essentially our old version of the show. while and then I always remember we we we decided to do is show for a week in a approx closet. Yes. How I hit? Version of the show. Yes, I remember. I remember, there was one that you had Travis Halcion. Yes, I think I was having him on around interviews probably rolling something he was voting on. His Day I believe he did like a dating show on. Dated Fifty women at once. You not love tribes calcium. I remember watching that episode I think. I was interviewing him for the night. Not on the PIKE HAS A. Over the phone for for something with that show by forgotten about yeah, they stuck in that little studio and do that well. It was, but it was actually different, because it started in this prop closet was literally the best stamps or chose prop closet, and we went in there because long story short. They had sent every show to the Super Bowl in San Francisco except for our show. So. Of sulking about it, we thought why don't we pretend that? Not only did the shows go, but the crew went, and we have no crew and we have to do the show on the prop closet because this is the only space that's lit in the entire unbelievable, so it went well like we did it for a week. We can you know this suits US better? Somehow, it's more kind of low rent rent. Just kind of kind of more fun, so then they decided well. We got this tiny studio. We could build so that's when they put us in this studio now as the final iterating on the shelf and now is when Jamie. Horowitz was running the network and was very anti highlights, so he just wanted us to centrally talk show with. Probably the best version of the show, but but it was only a year that we got to do that. It seems like these days. In twenty twenty. No matter whatever network you'd be add. They'd had to highlight show, and then have you do a Another show? Thirty Minute interview show, that's it's like everyone sort of doubling and tripling up these days I mean. There's a podcast. You're on TV you have a podcast. Youtube Channel instagram lives away in a no one does thing anymore so they would have probably used you better now than they did that. It's possible and you know I think the other thing is that you know no matter what you say about. Highlight shows ultimately they are as we say in the business shoulder programming right. Jimmy they've gotTa have something leading into it. We just had nothing we had no had no program right now what you would want to stick around for maybe UFC might have been an exception, but we just didn't have that programming so I don't care who you would have stuck in that seat. F S one in the early days I know they were talking to. Scott Van Pelt about going there and I. I think it's just an east coast guy. He didn't WanNa do it, but even Scott had he gone. I would struggled ratings. Wise, because there's just no, there has been no reason it wasn't destination viewing now. It changed for example, and you know this 'cause I know you love baseball when the baseball playoffs happened, men are ratings with through the roof right because i. Had to find our channel, and if they found our channel, then they're probably sticking around and seeing what's on after after the game's over, so we can great for a good two weeks in October or late September. Did you. Did you have a moment you got the Fox twenty thirteen? Did you have a moment I mean you said before is a disaster from the beginning, but was there like. A boy, this is what am I doing. Why didn't I stay where I was? Or you know this is not going to work with? When did it? Absolutely, not at no point. Did I ever think that I was having too much fun? If it's just we're living in LA. We're having a great time. It's funny. How if the date today of your workplace is really really fun? You know wet the whole. Mine Usha of Oh manner. Ratings are bad. People are bad. You know Francesa's colonists out of the radio stay. Nobody knows who we are I thought. Larry and I got a kick out of it, and at no point was I ever down or or depressed about it I had a blast from the moment we arrived at twenty thirteen at the moment. We laughed and I think like I said a lot of that had to do. With how great everyone is there behind the scenes in how how comfortable they make you feel no, what you're. No matter how you show is doing young. They treat everybody really good, so yeah, no, I no pointed. Ever feel bad I. Did I were there moments L. Leaving a show. What I actually watched the show I just hosted. I would have to say to myself probably not. Guess. When did you realize it wasn't working all right away? I mean it was. We brought up Aaron like a lot of people. Forget stuff like this. Erin. Andrews hosted a show at the beginning of Fox of Fox sports. Ride the called Balk essentially, the Game Day competitive. And the NFL on, Fox. Guys were on it. We have show Fox football daily regularly on that show, but. We're talking maybe a month. In all of a sudden, a lot of those people are going away. I saw. These big they were like. Get me out of here and and I couldn't blame them but we were under contract and for me it was like let's just make the best of it and see if we can make something work here I guess. I have no regrets about it because there was no control. Really you know you're really doing what you can't might. My only wish is that we had so many different producers. Jimmy I would love to have had a one producer who really believed in US really loved us and Got Our vision I. Think might have had a bit more of a chance there, but nothing ever rated on F s except for skip bayless. Ever. Calling over me as an end, simulcast his show on on F. s one did not rate..
"jamie horowitz" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"I, don't know why. This is not happened sooner, but joining me. From. Canada. One of most famous people in Canada J. ON RATE Jay has gone. Oh, great Jimmy One of the most famous people in America. Has worked together. It's been an interesting ride. We were at Fox. I. Call Them You know the missing. The missing years that I. Try not to think about often new at the same time I was I was on Fox Dot Com. You're on F S One. But I. I was a fan. Way before that ever happened I know you provide a movement much material during my hot clerk, states appreciated that and. It's good to finally have you on. Yeah, it's great to be on with you Jimmy I love the podcast and I just had our mutual friend. Kyle Brandt. On with us, on the Jay and Dan podcast. And what a guy! What a! Worry about getting Michael. Jordan's autograph when he was a kid and the Cologne spilling out of the car. What a what a magnificent person! He and Peter Schrager I love that show. That's one of the shows we do. Get up here. We do get the NFL network up here so it gets a catch up with those guys because I'm up early with small children all the time. I always like to Brag that I was sort of the first person to publicly say that that was a great show and. It's good to be right every now and then and I. WanNa. Get into the Kyle's appearance. They I was a bad host though I should have when I injured. You mentioned intro you intro. You mentioned that you host sportscenter on Tsn Kanye the Jane. Dan podcast sports. Within our E that's. Not The er one. Yes, I remember Alice, remember I think it was the two thousand five NBA finals. They sent me cupboard I think it was the Pistons and Spurs than we would have Michael Wilbon on regularly because. tsn Is one third owned by ESPN, so we we'd have lots of ESPN personalities and and Michael could not wrap his head around the. Spelling Change. Center probably should not be spelled C. E. N. t. r. e. now that you have differentiated I think so I learned one thing already. I didn't realize he was one third of an owner of tsn. I've always wondered how you know. There was sportscenter in America's Sports Center in Toronto Canada and the, you know the spelling difference was there, but it would have seemed like a copyright infringement deal so I think the so just very quick backstory I believe on. American companies or any foreign companies can only own one third Max of Canadian broadcast entity. It could have. Right and so I remember when ESPN bought into Tsn, they immediately wanted to change the name to Espn Canada. And and of course change the at the time Tsn's show was called sports desk, and they wanted to obviously change that to sportscenter and I think the ESPN candidate thing they just held off on, because tsn was established as a name up here already, but they relented on sportscenter thing we were all thrilled because those of us who are working behind the see I was working behind the scenes in the newsroom at Tsn at the time, and that was the heyday of Fab. Dan Keith and kilborn and rich Eisen and Stuart Scott and. The glory days of sports centers as people often call at your buddy Jimmy Miller calls it. So so for me. I was three. Thrill suddenly. We weren't on sportscenter. It seemed somewhat cooler at that boy. You're. Talking about this ad in planned to discuss it, but just popped in my head, I had Jamal, Hill on the podcast last week, and we talked about what you went through with the six PM Sports Center and HAL. At that time. There was a big narrative at the time This is sort of which you brought about how? Highlighted dead highlights dead highlights dead and I'm just curious. Because I'm sitting here, thinking okay, you're hosting highlight show, or at least you know what supposed to be at sportscenter. What's your take on? The highlights of dead people want highlights. How do you guys handle it on on Sportscenter, you and Dan? What's your take on that? Well for US UP SCHMEAR? They were never dead and we went to. F S One and when we started doing a highlight show, and then, when Jamie Horowitz came in and took over in. You know his whole narrative. Was He'd have a sin in a meeting and the first thing he would want to discuss this. How the traditional sports centres ratings were trending down and how the shows that he had been a part of. Or had some sort of hand in creating at Espn no-shows were trending up and you're right. That was completely the narrative at the time, and and for us We just didn't fit into that mold and maybe. Was the same thing for Jim, Allen and Michael in some ways that you know. I never understood why they took Jamila. Michael Office show that was working. Right tried to shoehorn them into a format that clearly they weren't comfortable in and I. Guess You could say the same thing about Dan. When we went to one a lot of ways, one thing data was said. Was that nobody you know? We were such a huge success in Canada and they brought us down because we're a huge success in Canada, but at no point did anyone at Fox. Say Okay. What do you guys think we do with you like nobody? would. They just sort of shoehorned us into this three hour. Long show with Garissa who is fantastic, but Overall it just it was. It was kind of a disaster from the get go so I completely vange walls line of thinking there. Yeah, it's funny. In doing a little bit of research. I. Didn't realize you had done that show for four year. You got there in two thousand thirteen in our remember that you were there. Till twenty seventeen that show on F s one lasted four years. I was shocked. Shorter. I think America had felt shorter to while I was in every year. It was different you know. The first year was the big launch in the the one for fun and all that. Nonsense and that. Andy Roddick breaking down the NBA. That's right and. Donovan mcnabb Gary it was. All amazing people and I mean front you know to. You worked for Fox I. Mean Front Camera Behind the camera, and as far as the way they treat talent. They could not allen any better. They're the the the most talent friendly entity ever to the point of. Leading some like it always confused me because up here. The the concept of US being able to go to a competing network can host a reality show is just a nonstarter up here, whereas something like Erin Andrews, for example got to be on dancing with the stars on ABC for years and years right, so they saw. That is a good thing. And I appreciated that I thought that was really forward thinking from Fox because their minds. The bigger their talent got, even if was on another network, the better it was for them so. Aaron always told me that he said Fox alum that she did dancing with the stars. May like. Them they want their talent to be even more high profile, so yeah, as far as that's concerned, they treated a scrape. It yeah, with four different integrations. Was that first one that we sort of mentioned with Andy and Gary and it was like a three hour long show, and it was like two shows..
"jamie horowitz" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"Since you just mentioned trump, a couple of things that I wanted to sort of get out of my system, because one of the things that has always frustrated me about the narrative that. ESPN covered politics, and you sort of tie into this with that whole thing is because is. Whenever I heard that from people who follow me on twitter or readers of my column, or does anyone it would get me so infuriated because ESPN. Maybe the last month is a little bit different, but up until then is pinned, did not cover politics. You were not on ESPN. Breaking Down Healthcare and discussing abortion rights, people would take things you said on twitter, and then say oh. ESPN covers politics and the fact that people are so dumb that they can't separate the two as if you're on sportscenter you know like I said breaking down whether we should be a NATO is just so absurd did. Now obviously on twitter ESPN and twitter. Is that weird? Thing I? They they want people to not go full out and say whatever they want on twitter so. Did that. Did it bother you at all that people would sort of. When. You were at ESPN. act like ESPN is covering politics based on what people are doing on? Their twitter feeds, or did you think or do you feel cause? Some people feel like it's all encompassing what you do on twitter as part of your work. What your stance on that? there were so many frustrating things about that entire false narrative that UPN with to political which often completed with the being liberal. Okay, so because there were people that were okay with ESPN. Being political had been more right lady in their mind right and there were people who didn't want to hear about it at all, so it was like two different arguments or two different off narratives or coexisting and being intertwined together, and they kind of had no business doing that. So the political rumblings, it was a slow burn, and it was started to me from voices and people who were acting trillion bad fakes who had their own agenda, and who wanted to use the name and reputation of ESPN to build their own reputation man to enter themselves into a higher profile by using espn at target practice and I mean just think about it this way I'll take sportscenter for example. I remember when. I think it was Jamie Horowitz when he went to F-. S Want Jamie Bean, obviously former formerly at ESPN, used to be in charge of of my show in charge of numbers of their lives, slashes and her. Would got the F F. He kept spending this narrative brilliantly, so the highlights were bid. That was his whole thing highlight forbid. SPORTSCENTER SH. You know they're going the way they advocate. That was what he was doing. Which is excellent monthly? That's what he's supposed to do. He's the competition. He's supposed to take shot. They have nothing to lose. Take shots at the main competitor at the kid on the block all well. What happened as a result, and I'm not saying it's a bad results, but then you started to see espn kind of change because of that because that narrative somehow started to take place, but nobody want to highlight. Nobody wanted to see you know that traditional sports that they had been seen when yes, sports, never going to be a popular as it was before in the mid nineties and a little bit after, but that was mostly because consumer habits change is i. didn't people didn't like highlight? Because otherwise how how's the highlights bleacher report and all these other digital highlight places existing? It's like people do love highlight. They've just may not love it in the same form. They did but nevertheless. ESPN reacted, and it was the same thing with this political liberal narrative. You had people who were from a much lower perch that ESPN, making these attacks and espn my disappointment with them that they were treating them like they were real argument, and they were real arguments to begin with and if they wanted to. ESPN giving Caitlyn Jenner. The Arthur Ashe Award to me that this has been people to political when one Caitlyn Jenner's Republican to this is a issue about trans athletes which have become a much more elevated conversation, and when you consider the fact that translating the marginalized, the marginalized communities almost with the the rates of depression and suicide and the conversations, the unfortunate conversations being taken place about Young Trans Athletes. It was an issue. A sports network should be involved in and so it was just that they were taking these These dog whistles and blowing them. Why rather loudly, but that doesn't mean they were right, and it was funny because what we were doing his and hers. I never no one ever accused me obeying to political, and nobody ever did and I realized that his and hers audience. It's probably half of what the six PM sports audience is man because we're branded at that time on ESPN two with. which was at the time with you know I, take and Mike and Mike Sports, nation and other opinion shows was branded as okay. This is where you get all your commentary. Edgy opinion from so be seen in a much different light, but I just noticed that as the network started to have a different you know a different face to it more faces as you started to see people like myself and Mike and Carrie champion Sarah, Spain, and and j McManus time as you started to see more. People of Color or women in in positions where they were driving content with their opinion, suddenly espn two liberal suddenly to political, and I don't think that was by accident. I mean I think there were some people who definitely had who were You know definitely had some racist and sexist undertones with. Them because they didn't like how the network was changing. And obviously because we're bringing our perspective to a lot of sports issues, it's suddenly became liberal content, and so I I guess like for me being in the middle of back. It was really frustrating because It wasn't as you said like we were ever on television. Talking about You know immigration reform. We were talking about You know pre existing health conditions. We win everything. We talked about related to sports. Related to politics and sports and or social issues was all in currently in the news. We weren't pulling things out of Thin Air Colin. Kaepernick, happened in twenty sixty all right. So what were we supposed to do? Not Cover it I mean so. It was just always. A terrible argument to be made and I just felt like the stupid people in the room control that conversation and I was really disappointed that ESPN allowed them to lead it. From the outside. That's what it looked like happened as well I was. Shocked that they would. Always surprised, I mean it really haven't. Jimmy Petar took over I I was always surprised by Jimmy. is always going out of his way to say you know stick to sports. Sports only were only going to cover politics if it intersects sports as if that's not what you were doing, a espn was doing all along it sort of I added fuel to the fire. That was not needed, but That's sort of my own take on that, so no I mean that's that's that's pretty. Accurate I mean I think it was one of those things where Jimmy Petar took over that he felt like he needed to reinforce. WHAT ESPN you know is it's like reinforcing. That are always on the books I mean I think most of us even before my you know gaffe. If you want to call it that on twitter, we were all under the impression. We knew what we weren't supposed to do. Necessarily on twitter I'm not saying. We followed that perfectly, but what I say is that you know there was? It was just really stronger reinforcement because it was about showing. It was about showing that. Hey, we're serious about this now. It's just like why do you even need to do that because you're only capitulating to people who frankly have no power?.
"jamie horowitz" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch
"And that show never seemed to be at the top and i wonder now rachel nichols maria taylor are the co host will they finally commit to this is our brand before and after games particularly the games and that's you're you're gonna see i think it'd probably speaks to like a couple of things scheduling and competence in the show right if you have you know the late eight game the late playoff game and you have you know this really popular show. You know this guy mental sportscenter <hes> to come on right after i don't i. I don't know how you reconcile that right if you you're bumping you know steph van pelt into like the middle of the night when you have you know one of these really late playoff games <hes> i don't know how that will work but i guess in in i think in other situations you could sort of say <hes> when it was wilpon and and stephen a you could say you know why wouldn't you go to your and that's probably a lack of confidence in the show and i bet you'll see you know paul in some capacity <hes> in the new version of this and so you have just a another power center of of n._b._a. Punditry n._b._a. <hes> gravitational force. It's going to be part so you know when you talk about splitting up and you know where we're going for n._b._a. Content you know if you put those people on <hes> the show <hes> you you have western issue <hes> trying to figure out what to do after the game's over yeah. I think you're right about stephen a that would <hes> that that seemingly. I feel like i even read that's somewhere or maybe the big lead rang last beagle etc era but that seems to be that seems to totally make sense <hes> in terms of the getting him part of the n._b._a. Countdown the official n._b._a. Countdown family. Let's talk about michelle beedle before we move onto another subject. My reporting corning been suggest that e._s._p._n. And michelle bills camp are still in the midst of figuring out how this endgame will be but i would say it's more probable than not that they'll be some kind of settlement and that michelle beedle will be pursuing work outside of the e._s._p._n. <hes> <hes> she's had a pretty interesting career in terms of <hes> some super highs <hes> some professional lows although i would consider almost everything high given that she's gotten paid and i feel like she's worked the system fantastic <hes> to her benefit which is what you want talent to do <hes> and and i don't think the zone is a crazy thought ben given that sports by brooks reported that they're interested in some kind of n._b._a. Red zone show. She has connections actions of course with john skipper. John skipper hired jamie horowitz from fox sports. After fox sports fired him amid a <hes> <hes> sexual harassment probe and beetle worked for jamie horowitz at sports nation so those dots would seem to be connected pretty easily if they're interested in in that move who've i also think beato would have other options elsewhere in a in a large university of content but <hes> but her career if it does end at e._s._p._n. <hes> <hes> that was a comment at one time as high as you can get as talented e._s._p._n. And it could end or it looks to be ending pretty quietly. Yeah i think i think <hes> i think andrew marson at the post wrote this <hes> that you can see you know who skipper liked in who qatar likes now <hes> and beatles a skipper favorite and <hes> she you know is not held in famous eighteen by the new regime. I think she came under fire. I think from get up. I think when those salaries came out <hes> you you know there was a story about her jalen and greenberg and i think you know i think sometimes it's a little unfair. You know people judge. Did you buy your contract because i think everybody should maximize what they're worth. You know whatever someone willing to a. That's what you're worth and so i think she took. Perhaps a little extra after he because she was making a lot of money became very public..
"jamie horowitz" Discussed on The Russillo Show
"Browns, just a great. If you're interested in this, you even more indepth than Shams the best, man. So thanks a lot. Thanks, man. Okay. That's a nice segue in. And you know, I don't I think I was fishing for setting answer me on that. Because I wasn't. No. I definitely don't think you were doing that. Yeah. Ten years ago. Definitely now. Now, I wasn't. So if you don't know the backstory here. Derek Carr win it. I take Stephen Kellerman in what athletes don't understand it. When you go at shows like that, you only make them stronger. Okay. There is nothing better for skip Bayless career than somebody calling him out by name. I mean, it's like everybody executives love that stuff. It's like yes, resonating we're getting through honestly, that's kind of game. Anyway, just do it. Even I would rather not have anybody challenge me to a five publicly. But that's what Derek Carr said to Dana white. He was like, hey, can we get a fight where I can what was the tweet. Do. We have the exact tweets that I pull it up. I probably just for accuracy. Right. Let's let's pull it up. Yeah. Honesty, while you look while you look at us up. We had a pretty positive response from last week's like behind the biz kind of thing. Yeah. We did. And. You know, I'm I'm still increasingly amazed that like these teams and these athletes continue to do this because they know the deal like the whole like, rob Parker thing. Like who cares? Like why? Why are you worried about what he's saying where rob Parker? Do he he went on the heard I think today or something and was talking about how Brady is like the luckiest guy of all time or something the Lote and it got picked up everywhere. It was like oh my God. And you're like, this is the worst Hake. But yet here it is all over Twitter, you know. Yeah. I mean, there's there's a real theory that I have on this. And it goes back like Jamie Horowitz when he was an executive Spion. He, you know, I take his baby and. He was really good at TV. And I think those guys used to watch a lot of Fox News, and they would kind of pick up from like, okay? This is how facts news does this. Maybe it wasn't just Fox News might have just been broadcast cable news and all that kind of stuff like they would they would be inspired. And there are a string of on-air guys that really kind of I don't wanna say like at the altar of Jamie Horowitz, but they're very influenced by him in their styles. And it's this almost defiant. I'm going to say stuff because you know, you need to get picked up by the blogs. If you're going to be an opinion guy. And I never did it enough. You know, because I just didn't say outlandish crap all the time. And so I would think like a Horowitz type would look at me and be like, really, okay, cool. You watch a bunch of games. Sweet. But you know, he was a big column guy, and you can see some of that in Collin, Nick. Right. I think is one of his guys, and you see that Nick. Rob Parker was one of his guys at first Hake. Skip was absolutely his guy. And I think he's. Done. That's really credit to him in very impressive that like a behind the scenes television executive could get so many people that have these prominent positions to all have them kind of do this like defiant, unrelenting style of just no matter what this is what you believe in you never deviate from it. And I used to see like they would talk about beetle and be like, all right Beatles. This and she is this and she's all these things like oh my God..