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Will Stadia Ever Catch a Break? - Kinda Funny Games Daily 12.18.19
"What's up everybody? Welcome to kind of funny games. Daily daily for Wednesday December Eighteenth Twenty nineteen. I'm one of your host Greg Miller alongside the rogue one at Gary Widow. Ooh I got to tell you. I've seen a lot of Santa Beers Gary and this is the cheapest one this at target young bucks and is absolutely for Shit. I'm he be like he's their mouth hole. Award bid in the giant the fabrics peeking out from the sides. They're supposed to go down here all I know it's just terrible and I hate it. You take it. I feel like we've done it right. You've got this screen shot. They're happy right now. You can get back to here. Real yourself turned you sure. It's not like an ornament or something it's meant to be worn by human me is is he going to. When I was looking for stuff yesterday at the store everything was picked Tova? This is all I had underwear thing you know we both looked suitably the We both looked suitably festive. You brought your to Jaffa cakes like no annual Traditional Christmas gift kind of funny the Big Yard of Jaffa cakes. It's excited to have you WANNA crack it. Open their Kevin. You'RE GONNA come get one haven't you. GotTa you gotTa have you gotTa have a Jaffa got if we're getting into the Christmas spirit. There's no Christmas with Sir. These are my favorite and so many Americans out curious. You ever find yourself at some Jaffa cakes this British tradition the digestive biscuit. Oh yeah they're my favorites. Remember a Jaffa Cake Olive podcasting go great with everything now remember. You're not allowed to eat more. I'm doing okay. I'm sick of the comments. Oh my God oh yeah. Some people like to Asia our nature of the overwhelming majority. Do not hate. Hate it when you eat into a microphone. Jacket Doherty's won't these aren't long for this world this office but Enough Ladies Gentlemen About Jaffa Cakes. We're GONNA talk about. Are you getting new dino crisis probably not. We'll stadium ever catch a break properly. Not Are we always going to be playing pokemon go probably because because this is kind of funny games daily each and every week Dan a variety of platforms. We run you to the NERDY video game news. You need to know about if you like that part of the show Patriot dot com slash kind of funny games with your questions. Comments concerns and everything under the video game son then tune into watches record the show live twitch dot TV slash kind of funny games. If you're watching live you've special job. It's kind of funny dot com slash tells what we screw up as we screw it up so we can set the record straight for everybody watching later on YouTube dot com slash kinda funny Games Rooster Teeth Dot Dot Com and listening on podcast services around Virgo. Can we do a bit of housekeeping about tomorrow's special event. Because I WANNA make sure people know tune in for that. So why is he got something. I don't know what streaming on the wrong channel YouTube. What that's kind of so we don't know no go ahead Gary so as as as regular listeners to the show I will know Kevin and I've been very excited about going to see Cats ask the movie in and actually happened. It happened laws. We went like against all the odds. You know there's there's been there's been some ups and downs. Kevin tried to pull out which I wasn't having not watch it happen live in the classroom. You know friendship professional relationship was all on the line over. This was not letting pull out and we all went And I'M GONNA I'M GONNA reserve obviously my pigs. I want to save if it's immoral but it's got to be the hardest thing you've ever done because no matter your Gary what are you coming here and and whatever happened the day before is what you're going to talk about it or not tell you what I'm going to see the rise of skywalker tonight skywalker. Ranch I don't even care why the the whole time that the movie's running. I'm still going to be thinking about pass the whole time. Yes eighty five and whatever happens in the movie. I'll be thinking this would have been better. Had they've been catching wow screen. Screen cats cats a very special edition of screen cast tomorrow at one time. Kevin go out live. You can watch it. Live onto DOT TV says eleven. Am Not Youtube. Dot Com live on twitch follow games and And then it'll be on youtube afterwards as well rates. I'm very excited to talk. Not Stop up thinking about. I have never anticipated episode of screen cast more than I am interested. I know that you said you don't have an interest in the movie but you should. You should see it sure you. I will not see it in theaters. There's a possibility awesome ability one day but I guarantee I will not so. It's Taylor Swift. She has a big number in it. Yeah I love it. But as a cat I would like her final form ultimately going to argue she does evolve into Naggus housekeeping for you. Thank you to our doc producers blackjack and Mohammad Mohammad. Remember Kinda Funny Day. Twenty Twenty is Fr- Friday January third. We'll be streaming all day long revealing. What kind of funny games? Four Point Oh is all about announcements announcements big announcements Gary. Are They GonNa shot firing anything now. We can't trust you. You're not good at secrets. So we know the Wa- On a star wars movie the three years and Intel anybody anything exactly. I can't keep a secret me. Tell me anything about this marvel movie. DC movie image movie working on. Actually I do have somebody to tell you off to the show every all right then I'll tell you I'll trade secrets okay. All right. What's your third of starting Logitech? But I'll tell you about that later for now. Let's begin the show with what is and forever will be. The report is for some News Kevin. I got five items for Number one are you getting on new dino crisis. This set the Internet on fire yesterday. Imran in in France hosted the show. I saw the show yesterday said to me off. I asked him this morning. Hey did you get this break afterwards. Why didn't you guys cover it? He said I didn't cover it because I don't think it's going going to happen. And I said Oh why. And he gave me his answering and I thought it was interesting. So we're putting it all together as a story because that's how we lost me already. What's going on? Explain it to his priest. MINUTE IS IAN reports. The following Capcom has filed a new trademark for Dino crisis with the Japan Patent Office many other games were also trademarked including mega man dark stalkers and breath of fire Japanese trademark doc watched site which I'm not going to. I guess I can do that. Don't do it don't do it cheese. I watch notes. That Capcom filed these new trademarks on November twenty nine th twenty nineteen while they were published published on December seventeenth two thousand nineteen SILCON air reports. This is the second new trademark for Dino crisis filed by Capcom recently the I was filed on February fifth two thousand eighteen in granted on December. Twenty eighth Two thousand eighteen. The last Japanese trademark four Dina crisis before that was granted on March thirty. First two thousand rumors of Dino Crisis Reboot reboot circulated back in two thousand seventeen but capcom responded to those saying that there were not there were not any conversations happening within Capcom on the subject at the time. However in December two thousand Seventeen Capcom development team tweeted that a new Donna crisis could be possible if lots of people wished for it given the success of the resin evil remake an with a resident evil three remake? Now confirm. It's possible that Capcom is looking to do something with the Nana crisis series two however given the Capcom also vile trademark for many the other games in the same. Data's Donna crisis it. Would it could simply be a formula. Could just be like a bit of housekeeping right to make sure the trademarks expire bloody disgusting. Mike Wilson had this A little bit more context. Even though I guess is you talked about. According to a twitter account. The tweet sat trademark applications in Japan. Capcom has filed several new trademarks apart from power stone in Rochman. Of course Brockman in being mega man. The ones that genre fans are interested in our cap comes in one thousand nine hundred panic Corey Horror Classic Dino Crisis in Vampire Aka dart soccer's broke right is as the guys getting ready to go live yesterday. I hit being around me. You didn't talk about in the middle of the show. He said No. I didn't talk about Iraq because I just don't think it's a news story. I said why not to which he tweeted back as part of a round of trademark. Renewals that they do nothing indicating this one was special. It's like the skate renewal new skate renewal or when Nintendo Renews Eternal Darkness. I I agree with that. I understand it. They're obviously putting on a whole bunch of different things here just making sure. There is are dotted T.'s crossed but gary with. They're already being this Hullaballoo Lou of there's no doubt there's no Dina crisis thing happening then later up following on well if somebody cared about dino crisis we do it. Is this a run of the mill renewal or do you think we're getting closer to new data on a crisis. Well I I. I think it is a run of the run of the mill renewal as it seems it happened as like a whole round of trademarks. That we're renewed. Sometimes you go to do this to make sure that you know. Your Shit doesn't doesn't expire like you've got to keep it ticking over just as you do want to do something with it. One day you don't want someone someone else coming along and saying We have Diana crisis now. Shares fell asleep at the switch The main take away when I saw this yesterday was like wow people give a shit about diner Christ side no idea is a big deal of it. It's a big deal in the way blankenship dinosaurs. Right I mean crisis of dinosaurs. I saw somebody on twitter yesterday. I can't remember who it was getting excited about like. Oh just imagine what Dino crisis would it looks like today if you did it with modern technology it would be awesome absolutely. Yeah we want to see that on a series. XL PS five whatever. That's very exciting And they're not really. It's surprising given how popular dinosaurs all in the pop culture space. They've never gone. There aren't really like dinosaur video. Games have never really been that big thing. Yeah I reiterate dinosaur games had never been I'm I think that there's a hard enough hardcore fan base enough of that and I do think think that with the well of nostalgia that you continue to see people drink after the success of crash. Spiro Sky Lenders Inspire on his own little resident evil resident evil I I was trying to stay. I'm saving Capcom for us. Oh Com yeah. Of course what they found with resin evil remake resonable three now I mean how they've reinvigorated monster hundred the way that they. You have these franchises that I think for the longest time we talked about this outside of four or five years ago. If you're on the other side of that if you refer back in somebody who's like a capcom is getting ready to go bankrupt or Hey Capcom GonNa get bought by somebody. I could sit there. I could see that. Yeah they have a lot of valuable. Ip they're not putting out great games to the point where they're firing on all cylinders. They're owning every spring. It seems ready to monster hunter world like I do feel like they're in a different spot now and I do think that they've kind of gotten the you know back on track you train back on the tracks here what are we. How do we do this well? We can take our classic franchises. We can reinvigorate them. So let's let's theorize here for a moment you and I when they brought by resident as an evil to they. Obviously reinvented lodge. They got rid of the fixed camera angles and and made of quality of make it more maybe more of a contiguous kind of third person. You know Open world survival. Horror kind of thing. If I'm Donna crisis is it was a light gun shooter right okay. So they're not going to do that if they're bringing it back. It doesn't mean I imagine. Don't you think they would do like an open world far cry kind of thing one thing get back to it because I'm not a crisis guy and so I'm trying to up here but I gotta look at a grammar. Emily add to skip past. And see where we're going from what we should. Because I think the arcade one was right but was this the gun. Shoot the old style resident evil camera angles. This is Dina crisis. Yeah okay so I feel like they would probably do what they did. Resin exactly it was an open world. Shoot dinosaurs get scared you. What's going to jump around the corner are you? Yeah okay I mean I think there's I think that especially with the engines success. They found like being a futuristic crazy ass Jurassic Park that it looks beautiful people to this the already. Reinvented it wants. Because in the in the 'cause it was wasn't eh which came first darnold crosses the time crisis. That's not a Greg Monroe. Greg Miller doesn't know his history every knows that about Greg Miller. So those those crisis games in the arcades. I'm writing I believe in writing saying would would like gun shoot with gum on shooters right and dino crisis a gun shooter in the arcade. I don't are we thinking all these things. Are we supposed to be the fucking experts roots time crisis. We're conflating. The things confusing him runner I thought was was or was not crisis. A gun shit. I ever have a gun in a life crisis thing ever was. It wasn't so time crisis was was a was a gun shooter. Dino crisis was more Resin Evil to fixed angle fix camera angle exploration Asian right. Yeah well we know for sure we just look through here. Worry us the Donna crisis. We just looked at where resin rush right was never an arcade game okay crisis thing that throwing us off. Yeah Great Games. So do you think that do you think they would just take so given. The is a resident evil to stall game but those fixed camera angles. Yeah they could just do the exact resident evil remake fuller one hundred percent right that things I by no means do I think Donna crisis was as big as resin evil evil. It was but I think that if you were say it's in the same engine. It looks the same way like you get in there. I would be interested in playing that in a way that I wasn't interested obviously never playing Donna crisis before Nanno. Oh biologist writes in and says time crisis was for December nineteen ninety-five Dino crisis released July. First one thousand nine hundred nine okay so quite gap okay but we go confused because one is a gun shoot and the other one in the thing where neither of them interested me so they are just interchangeable. Right I like to cheer once in a while. I'm I'm I'm not I'm not I'm not a diner so I'm excited but nor am I like Ed. I don't want to see what it is. Well my whole thing about it right is that I know that there is an ardent dino crisis fan base and. I know that I didn't play in like looking at the game playing like okay. So we just apply the resin evil to remake because that was the thing yesterday I saw all my God Diana Chrysler. This is a huge really Donna crisis. That's a big deal to people. Every you gotta remember though every every has has has. It's exactly exactly number two on the rope. Reports stadia can't catch a break borderlands threes finally emiko Stadia. But there's a catch Google's new stadium gaming platform is now available and if you've ever this is from borderlands by the way their official post and if you've already got your hands on one you can start playing Borland's Orleans three on it right now. The moment you purchase the stadium version of the game which is available at a special launch price for a limited. Time is ready for you to play. Not only will you not need not need to download the game Marini updates but you won't have to download any upcoming campaign. Add Ons if you decide to buy them later is part of the season pass. That's included with the Super Deluxe edition the first borderlands three campaign campaign ad on Marx's heist of the handsome Jack. We'll becoming too stabia early twenty twenty. Now if you're reading and you're a borderlands kid there's the first Red Flag Gary because is okay games out. Great Mocks. The handsome Jack. PAT is out tomorrow on PC xbox playstation right like that's really why stadium. Here's where it gets worse. We aim to achieve Steve Feature parody for all versions of Borderlands Three early in twenty twenty but for the moment the version of the game that you play on stadia has benefited from the updates and fixes that were or at least through October. Twenty four two months ago. No order these features coming soon to the stadia version of borderlands three include the end game content like the takedown mallow want black site which is out now and mayhem for mayhem difficulty dedicated loopholes for bosses an additional bank space. Make space in the loop pools already out to forget if mayhem force out yet. If that's on another patch. I think it's on the sixty the patch coming tomorrow creamy from your I. I'm I'm too weak. Willed the plan. What Ma'am for Gary? Come on stadium. Thinks they finally got one bag here. This has been a not mention. I've seen Somebody who's on the stadium breath at all the time the city had been eating themselves. Who Comes in they're alive because there's been no updates on the game? Aim right they. It was gonNA come before the end of the year and then no updates from officially from Google until yesterday when they were like. Hey the games out. Now who've this is a difficult one for me because it's been a roller coaster if you go back and watch previous I'll own it You know when I'm when I'm wrong. I'll admit it if you go back and watch previous KFAED'S CDs previous wooded Wednesdays you'll see me saying you know. I think it's going to surprise a lot of people it's GonNa you know I I think that's going to surpass expectations Blah Blah Blah out. And who knows what it might down the right. I think Google will continue to other than they're going to abandon it like. They have abandoned a lot of their other failed. Jacks I think they'll they'll give a good guy but for right now and it's it's it's like it's like so friends over there. Because you know jared works over there Phil Harrison. Who runs it? Who's like the chief architects of Stadia? Stadia it's been a good friend of mine for twenty five years. He's he's a super talented very smart guy. Probably more knowledgeable about games than almost anyone. I not but right now. How steadier is is a worthless piece of shit and it's terrible? It's a terrible thing to have to say because I believed in it and I believe in the people the their. Here's they have to. But this is a terrible launch. Do you believe in the tech them. Yes the tech work now. I believe in that but it doesn't know because people are complaining about lag and input lag and they say it's four K.. But it's not really building and you know you don't you're not getting a full experience at like it's so feature feature anemic right now the maybe six months again confusing things though. Yes sorry yes yes I have been playing now when when dark siders dropped. Last time I put serious time too and it was that thing where I think in the back of the Internet. So bad back there wasn't running. Well pixelated stop playing at my house. It's not running. Well okay I mean I. I haven't played it because I cancelled my preorder when they announced the launch lineup. And it was like. There's nothing here that I care about. I haven't already play light. Oh don't already own and so I canceled it and I'm really glad I did because I feel like it would've been one hundred and thirty dollar staffed up the wall just a waste of money share until at some point down the road maybe it becomes feature complete which point. I'll be happy to jump. Well that's I mean. That's what's interesting about the borderland stories of Baldwin's Fan right like the hope here with this streaming on Stadia. Maybe one day on xbox one on xbox guide is up and running around the hope becomes. Then what what about. I'm thinking like so many me features ahead of this where it's like man. I hope there's cross platform play one day. I hope there's prosper across progression. Or whatever like this someone would destiny has right right Reagan Moore stuff around however we're talking right now a game on CD that hasn't been updated since October. Twenty fourth. Why would you faced with the myriad of options out there plant? Plant your flag as a Gamer with the stadia media platform and say this is what this is how. I'M GONNA play my games because the pros aren't that great you'd have to download the game. Okay fine that's a one time thing. Thank you don't have to update the game. Most Games update when the consoles asleep. Sometimes you have to dive daddy and it's like wait five minutes. It's not that big a deal but them and then in terms of what they're offering like it's sub-standard it's not it's they say it's four K. people that the founders have gone out there and analyzed it pixel by Pixel and said it's not in many cases that it's bullshit it's upscale. You know I've seen I've seen the side by side. Video unscreened comparisons. It's clearly inferior to running on native hardware in many many cases The input lag is clearly a problem in many many cases like I would not feel confident. Playing Games on stadia right right now. Sure maybe again maybe six months from now. What's up Nick? Nick just shakes his head at your F- I would. I would feel confident. I here's something I still because I believe in my friends over there. I I still believe in the idea I think next cloud and I think in a stadium but like give someone five gs is coming being like this is going to. It's going to happen. Cloud game is going to be. A big thing is going to work but they did. They took this out of the oven to a to a she wasn't ready. She should've waited waited. They should have waited another six months. Why didn't they put a bait on? That's what they said was no. I mean that's that's what Microsoft's doing right now complaining. No one complaining and it's an I understand that there's always a first mover advantage. You want to be first to market but this negated if you come out so early. The product is undercooked and it. So clearly undercooked why. The Games aren't cheaper if it had it been so many people that had it been the Netflix model. Will you pay eighteen dollars. And that's the thing the other thing. Is You pay ten dollars a month on top of everything else. If you want the full K which isn't even really four Guy Right. Is that what it is or is it. Three ten nausea three months. Kevin can look at that. I think it's I think you. I think it's ten dollars a month. I think you've got the first three months free when it's tight dollars a month if you won't fall in the focus is not really full guy. I'm seeing I'm seeing these impolite. Apparently it's particularly bad for fighting games which rely on really really phasing twitch response was second second response and it's not offering that and again you gotTa have a Ninja incident even with I have a Ninja inch and an Internet connection at home and I wouldn't feel confident people say to me. Oh you make sure to let you supposed to be wireless right and they said Oh no you make sure you get into a wide cable if you really want best performance i. Fortunately I can do that. But many many people say of course they don't have Internet Ethan all over the House. It's a mess and I don't understand why they they must've known how unready it was. Then they must have known it was is a mistake to launch in in this. And so that's my question in the chain of command where the problem goes because you bring a fail. You bring jared dead to me Jack user was on here from we have cool. Oh friends over there too like we know Patrick. I know so many people working over there that are games. People have both worked on the enthusiast Z.. Aside like us and Ben Made Games and then I believe in the vision and so they know how this is going to get dragged through the streets and beaten. They know they only get one chance of the first impression. Only get when we come back from this kind of stuff. Who at the top of that? I mean they I mean they can have a noman sky moment they can have a destiny taking king model. They I shouldn't have. I don't think they can you think they can you don't you don't think there's a second round stories waiting to happen like in spring or summer next year like Qatar Q.. And polyglot an general saying. Hey guess what destiny's good now Sorry good now I mean you can have those stories. I don't think that brings back the audience. I don't think that the the people so many people wanted to hate streaming technology from the start and so from the fact that Sadie it came out and fumbled. The ball didn't deliver that what they said they were going to deliver just cemented their opinions. It just has nothing nothing to offer the only people who can turn the xbox The library games is not that great. They're they're they're full price or in some cases even more expensive than buying on steam or oh buying on local hotter percents having having technically inferior in many cases you're paying a subscription on top of that you know a lot of the features that they promised on even their lawn and again this is why the only the people who can turn this around right now and this is throwing out whatever Amazon's up to and we have a question about Amazon later on what they're doing gaming in streaming and all that stuff the people can turn this around right now are xbox because when x cloud goes more more widely available when x cloud is back in the next year when they're like. Hey guess what. Game Pass Annual Games alongside series actually do simultaneously. You'll do before then I think I think they're gonNA keep it in Beta for a long time. I think you're going to open the base. I I specially now they've seen this cautionary. This is what happens when you open it up wider and. I think that it's what Phil was talking about at Expo. Nineteen in that interview right of. Hey Hey we're not saying. This is replacing our xbox gaming experience this is a pillar of it. This is a way you can enjoy. Your game is that you're addicted to video game. You go on the road you bring you control. Oh You bring your IPAD and you play the game when you experience. I just come down to the to the to the same question. Why why did they push the button? When they did they must have known phillies smart? These people over there Jack. They're all smart. People and Google is a multibillion dollar generation investment for them potentially if they get it right and they could've own to this space they must have known the right before they pushed the button to go live with it that it wasn't ready and it was going to be a nightmare. Why not even a day before even a day before come out and say you know what guys we want to deliver the best experience possible? It's not ready. We need more time to bring you the best expert game developers do do this all the time and when they do it they're respected people go fair fair play. I respect you for that for waiting for. Not Giving US undercooked products they launched it. They fucking knew they. They knew it was a mess and they launched anyway in the just desserts. I feel like even announcing like hey this is actually gonNA launch as a Beta. Would've in such a good move for them. They would find people who paid for early. I think to pay for that. He's just by changing. Nothing charging people one hundred thirty bucks but just by putting like slapping the word bipolar on it. Would it would have made a difference. People still would have been upset. I think it would have made a big difference and I also feel like they should. They should have given extra stuff I think if I think if they had gone with the at the time there's going to be a Beta launch if you WANNA pay one hundred and thirty dollars for the Beta founders edition. Yeah that's on you but no it's a it's a Beta that would be. That would be one thing but they didn't do that. This is this is a one point. That's why people are mad. And that's why they scorn the fan base the most dedicated people on our slash stadium on the problem. They're going to have now. is now this oldest poison this toxicity around brand. You're GONNA have a hard time getting developers to come to the platform because of so is that. Why would we want to be on that? No one I what. What do you think now numbers alike? They can't be good now. There are some It was a while back that had like Some I mean they're trying to matchmaking destiny or whatever and it didn't it was the numbers for terrible what they show yeah. You can't even get a match. 'cause no one's playing I think it was. I think it was Khalifa. Somebody who trying to play mortal Kombat on stadiums. I couldn't find a game. You only need to find one person for that game for a game. It's not so here's Michael. There's no disagreement that the current state of stadia is a mess. Do you think that they will turn it. Around or turnaround around will ultimately be successful. What are you what are you determining ultimately a fully mature platform? That has every game coming out on it just like xbox and playstation and switch that the the works has promised and and people like it every game over to too many holes but the majority of that. Yes I think in twenty twenty we will get to you cool. It's coming out on switch xbox playstation stadia for every major release for the man and and it functions as advertised like the problems with input lag. Basically go away. Why are those ever going to go? We always knew there'd be nanoseconds offer whatever but then a safety notice it's like half a second which in most which in the shooter or a fighting game that's death I'm started at borderlands yet and that's as somebody who hasn't played destiny however many years I was is playing and I was like okay. This isn't a sharp. It needs to be in certain scenarios like it's in the back room it sucked it's saw. This platform is going up against the concert. The boxes that we have and living right now on the charging as much for the Games so you have to judge them by name and they deliberately went out and they put the numbers up on the screen experts. Does this place does that. We do that. teraflops and Blah Blah Blah Blah. So they wanted this battle. They put themselves in the middle of this and now they're losing badly they getting the shit beat out of them because you got to judge it. Let's say that Borland's Orlands came out on xbox or playstation or whatever and and people and some people are saying well. I'm having a good experience. But other people's having that would not be acceptable that that would not be acceptable. The experience is not is not standardized for everybody to everyone is at least having a good experience and the fact that it's like it's a gamble. Maybe I'M GONNA have input input. Like maybe I'm not based on the vagaries of Mainz net connection and whatever. I'm not willing to take that risk. Every time I pay full price for a game I want to know what's going to fuck him walk. I don't think that's unreasonable Catholic. You want to chime in. I have two things one. I haven't had any issues with input. Lag everything so the Games that you played on state of you feel that they're just as sponsors. There's a media is playing. Well that's because that's what they promise you know having. I'm having specific experiences. Where a desk in the back was way lagging and crappier than destiny in the front or Desi at home with the computer? Now I my my fucking thing sucks back there. I could barely watch youtube sometime. What's your other thing weird? The other thing is like do you think this'll be around in five years. I think that's a more interesting five. Five years is a long time in games and you know one of the one of the conversation pieces has been. Well look at the long list of things that Google has launched an abandoned over the years. It's a hookah. They get Google dries. Many many many things and not every not every experiment is a big deal. I feel this is a big deal. I mean they really made a huge play. You don't see that kind of play like Google. Plus I know right. They try they. I don't feel like they put in the effort that they're putting in here. No this is this is not like some document mm-hmm it read or something that they put out and didn't work. Google plus Google plus was a big play. That did stick around for a long time. Didn't work but I feel like if even if it's about throwing good money after they're they're having come. I guarantee that having compensation this conversation about Stadia Right now is about doubling down and getting this right and fixing we can. We can still make this work like we had a rocky launch but we will get there again. I come back to just feel like it was so unwise to launch it. What did they gain by launching this condition? Nothing what did gained by being being an ex clouds Aguirre. Why what was the point of coming out? This early to highly wasn't ready. It's clearly not ready the media narrative is shockingly talking bad. And you're right. That's that's a hard thing to turn around. They can turn it around but perception is a whole other thing. Why would you trust in that especially again? If if there's there's GonNa be no negative news about X. cloud right if it's in Beta Beta Beta Beta and then it's out and I have you ever had all the games you already own all the Games you already owned service where you you pay ten dollars or not even depending on. I think this game's the narrative will get better in two thousand twenty. That's my prediction. Because I think that they will everything will get better right The the the the tech will get better The all the Games available the library will improve. I think at some point like the the essential kind of offering during the value proposition will improve in that they will. They will change. They'll they'll they'll get rid of the ten dollars a month. They'll move to a Netflix type model. Although find some way to make the offering more attractive they have to because the offering right now is not attractive here on all of those things will happen in twenty twenty and I do think a year from now I can see myself getting stadiums and that this is a legit way to play my games. No we're not today knowing you're gonNA cause by exit to be available while eleven series series extra on big fucking monolithic thing on my on my table. Or I wanNA Cybertrust Greg Greg. I want a series x monolith. These things with that foot phone Motorola razor whenever they got. You know. I'm really. Did you like the Monolithic Tower. The thing you would you put it on its side. What would you have an entertainment center on the side? And that's why when I G in yesterday showed a photo of my side of the xbox one xbox proof that's a big boy so is way bigger Taller Taller xbox one right even when you put it on its side of this slide tower but it does actually take on talk of it is you can put like pictures and stuff on it. I think I'M GONNA put it on. Talk come in push him. I WanNa say I wanna Pulse Eight Hour Tower Paolo Yeah playstation fives in a look like it's not GonNa look VHF is it. What do you place? I should look like just another black box. I don't think they need. I don't think they I think they're we're gonNA keep going sleep black boxes. That's the days of console is kind of having designers. Such of kind of gone away is just a black lab where people want right now. They're gonNA want them to go under either entertainment centre. It'd be real quick to Lord of points out that I was wrong mayhem for is out. It came out with the Mallow Ontario sixty a patch so many different patches. Coming from to keep up pallet cleanser number three Luigi Manson mashed his bath who Manson Louisi- Mansion. Three deal season and ask. I'm excited. I haven't played everything but it's I would say that it's my favorite game of all. The Games are played this year lose mentioned threes. My favorite Britt just win. Luigi thought it was safe to get a night's rest duty. Beckons is waves of new ghosts. In the mini games arrive as paid downloadable content for the Luigi Mansion three game on the nintendo switch. I with two new spacious plan for twenty twenty. There's never been a better time to gear up for more ghost hunting Luigi Mansion. Three multiplayer pack includes both part one and part two which will now be which will not be available for individual purchase and can be repurchased starting now for ten dollars intend to shop unintended. Switch Louise Mansion in three multi-player pack part one will arrive by April thirtieth twenty twenty deal. Sea includes three new mini games for the multiplayer screen park mode it also introduces three new outfits. She with mashing floor themes and new themed goes in the cooperative store picture him dressed up like nine armor he looks super cute. Cute and a special bonus for those who purchased the deal see players will receive an in game poultry pup called the flashlight type. P players can use this during story mode or scare scraper Nice. Luigi mentioned three multiplayer. Pack Part Two will launch by July thirty first twenty twenty with additional content and features for both scream park and scarce scraper modes. There will be three more new mini games for screen park mode as well as three new skyscraper outfits with matching four themes and themed ghosts. Actually the one thing that we haven't we love Louise's matching three. In my house three played we played through it together and Co op mode. Kid loves it as well. We haven't actually done them all the multiply stuff you check. That out did more for me when I look at this thing and I'm like I don't WanNa play multiplayer g play the story mode all the way through. I'm like to Floors away still. Okay because I I had it it was my plane game and then Pok Mon came when we went to I. Would you know everyone's having the the game of the conversation right now in a lot. A lot of great gangs secure Oh and control. These are all great games and rightly being celebrated. I feel Louise mentioned overlooked it. I don't know why I think Luigi constantly just as just as a as a character as an idea he constantly fucking gets the short Straw poll Luigi. I mean it is a great game. It's not the best game of the year. It's not easy. It's maybe but that's that's okay. Hey what's of course. Not every game has to be a fucking secure a ball buster fucking wants a ball buster. I'm just saying that the reason I haven't finished Louise's he's mentioned is that I just feel it's really simple and it's like cool. This is a fun again. That appeals appeals to kids and that appears to a whole. I'm not and I'm looking away. Hey from that. I'm not saying it's not a good game. I'm not saying I'm not I don't enjoy playing it. It's just that I don't feel like when I play a game that I'm all the way invested in I'm being pulled through three hundred that just to get back to you. I don't have that Luigi interests like okay cool. I got it by like three or four. I had it right and I'm like this is adorable. And it's like playing a pixar film and all these different there were things like. I'm enjoying that but I'm not this team's big complaint with it which I agree with your clutching coins and all these all this money right but you're not spending it on upgrades to your pack till Luigi the Pulitzer pup I mean I mean you do buy things. Yeah but you buy like again like if you die this thing will revive you right. And it's like I never die in this game with the exception of the one time where he had to fucking do that boss battle. Where the spikes all around the water and you were you were both in there on the inner tube help Enron was like you should do it? Yeah what makes makes all the boss battles easy for me again. I play everything on baby baby mode. Is You know but like for me. The game felt like the porridge was just right in in terms of difficulty like the boss battles with challenging. But like you know you really have to do two or three three three or four times. Maybe and you've got him the PA- each individual puzzle was like just tricky enough to make make Um but then you getting oh and every I love the fact that every new level had like Oh. What's this team? Oh this is like the nightclub total lie constantly like delighting me and it's a delight became delight. That's how I would describe it. I wish there were more games like that and thank God for Nintendo because of the the really the only ones out there doing and I do feel that it was the game overall was good enough that it should have been more talked about in at least in the conference in the nominee conversation. But because Louis Luigi is not cool enough. See you're making up your narrative for why this game is. That's what it is the fucking talking hipster. You WanNa know the lame stream to him. News media the Fixed Luigi DLC for Louise. He's mentioned we got zero for Mario Marianas. Did you know that Luigi is mentioned. Three I was in the UK outsold Super Smash Brothers for its first week. We're the SA- let let me tell you something the Luigi Fan. You're wrong. We are the fucking silent majority out there and no one. No one gives a shit about us but we are out. We Love Luigi Review noted the lear year of Luigi. Everybody made fun of it. Yeah I was saying it. Wasn't that great here. It was a weird thing to say and then not have Louise's receives mansion and not have like Luigi Nintendo Luigi they didn't really lean into it should have been a louise's mansion. What about wages mentioned? Ds Luigi New Luigi Franchise Shirt. Yeah Luigi Gulf. The theme park exactly Luigi scale gives us a more Luigi I agreement grievance under the most undeserved fan base in video games. Great game a fun game. You got your game. I enjoyed the game. She's not game of the year. Gary I didn't say it was I said it should. It should have been nominated at least it should have been on the should have been a more people shortlist zero zero points that we got zero deal see for the new Po Mario Party game as well so there's a lot of embarrassing things happening here. That's pretty embarrassing. It's embarrassing that's the thing that's what I'm talking about Nintendo. We'll put this fucking garbage shovel with Mario while ignoring Luigi Eighty. Who is Mario's brother? He is equal in stature to tomorrow. And you know he's he's not. Don't lie to yourself he is not equal Glenn Stature. He's literally superior in stature. I mean that's your opinion. He's taller than Mario and he can jump. Higher periods stocky superior to Mario by every metric is Mario is a fat stupid little dumpling and Luigi is the fucking Yuba Manch of the mushroom kingdom. He's told he he's told he can jump higher. This is not making this up. This is my opinion. That's just fucking fact Kevin because you don't want to hear it doesn't make it not true you will. You won't Guy La Luigi. Luigi is better than Mario Year of Luigi was an event held between two thousand thirteen and continued into two thousand fourteen and doing his anniversary bubble. uh-huh and it did include Luigi mentioned three S. Who the Fuck Eric Writing? And we use that platform right. Meanwhile venture be article here from Jeff Grab Luigi May Luigi mentioned. Three sales topped the UK Chart Luigi Mansion three sales surpassed all other nintendo games in the UK. Four twenty nine thousand nine during their lunch Angelique according to Industry Tracking Groups G F K and UK. I E is because we Brits have superior taste in video games. Luigi outsold both the legend of Zelda Link's awakening the answer Mario Maker to watch how about that when we go so at least in the UK. Luigi is properly appreciated. Everybody we appreciate him. It's just not the game wasn't like game game of the year. I didn't say it was. I'm saying go to be nominated. They should at least be nominated game. That is a game of the year. Well then then. Why have nominees toll Paul then because there was four other games that should have that nomination slot number four on the roper support Pokemon go get buddy adventure dead. Stranding should have been on that list and you didn't like it I like I I liked strain. And you're like Oh okay. I thought you didn't like no no. That's Tim Tim to like. I didn't like it but you know tastes to cover that you know what I mean you think mansions game of the year. Yeah you're right. I should definitely I should definitely be more of. Let's try not to fuck in fall over genre vacuum up the curtains. I gave way I I liked. I can't even fucking stand up straight and now soul-sucking ghosts trying to get me. What the fuck pokemon go gets to venture yesterday? This came up Banou dates. But I actually thought it was worth giving a paragraph to buddy adventures and elevated bonding experience for trainers. And they're buddies. You know your buddy. Poke Amman's mood as you increase your buddy level by playing with your buddy feeding your body treats and battling and exploring with your buddy in addition swapping buddy pokemon no longer resets progress towards earning candy like any great pokemon trainer. You'll find that the world around you will become richer with POK MON by your side as they grow with you and help you along your journey. The buddy adventure feature set will roll out to trainers around the world by twenty twenty they. He's still playing poker bumgarner tobacco today. When I saw this I was like Oh? Did you watch the trailer for this. Not Almost made me cry. And I'm not even like I don't even have a childhood attachment to poke him on. This is a really well done the trailer for like an ad for this thing. And it's a big deal. Obviously if you're pokemon go player that you can swap or you will be able to swap out not lose progress so enjoy yourself there then number five five during a long drive for I've I don't know what I keep saying. I've said this multiple times in the show and I understand you. Don't watch it in the ones you're not on is that we should have just taken yesterday. Okay the shows. I'm not yeah I watch those ones yeah. Of course I'm saying we should take December off. Why in the Industry the industry should stop working December? These two weeks are worthless. What we do you know what I mean? And then I've said that enough that my body has just taken it to heart checked out. Oh words left in writing a couple of weeks. I'm doing the bare minimum. Stop December. Why do we have December number five the wolf among us to starting from scratch this is Matthew Olsen over at US Gamer Jamie Ali? CEO of L. CG Entertainment Slash Telltale confirms that development on the wolf among us to is starting a new rather Kevin Building on what telltale had prior to the cancellation L. C. G.. A Holding Company headed by Ali and Chief Revenue Officer. Brian Waddell completed its purchase of the Telltale Hotel Brand and select licenses in late August taking lead on the wolf among us. twos creation is ad hoc studio developer founded earlier this year by former tell tale employees MHM though ad hoc includes key members of the team behind the first season of the wolf among us all four founding members left telltale over a year before the studio's closure in two thousand eighteen quote quote we've completely restarted the development of the game oddly tells. USA gamer quote. We felt it best to give the new creative team a clean slate. Start with always says L. C. G. Entertainment Eamon Slash Telltale was looking to bring on more formato games employees in the future but at present it's unclear whether any developers who were closely involved wolf among us to at the time of cancellation will you work. On the sequel again in February twenty nine thousand nine four former Telltale Games employees founded ad hoc studio peer Short. Nick Herman in Dennis Lenart all what worked on the first season of the wolf among us as the Games lead writer and it's too director's perspective respectively All three are pricing their development roles for the wolf among us to add hawks CEO Michael Chown left Telltale in two thousand sixteen while short. Herman an Lanark all departed in February twenty seventeen prior to the wolf among us. Two's initial announcement commit to join Ubisoft for work on an unannounced project when the four founded ad hoc in February no mention was made of pursuing formato projects or licenses. US G. REACHED AD-HOC TO ASK if the company includes or is looking to recruit more former tell tale employees but did not receivers bronze response prior to publication. In addition to the Extel crew at ad. ADHOC the voice actors of Big Wolf and Snow White are returning alongside series composer. Jared Emerson Johnson. Four the wolf among us to one major your departure add hockey's making in its relaunch of the wolf among us to development is on the technology front though the telltale tool engine text belongs to tell tale under L. CG entertainment the proprietary engine was reportedly quite difficult to work with and tell tell was planning transition to unity for the cancel stranger things games or game. Instead of telltale tool ad hoc will use. He's unreal engine for the wolf among us to this sequel is coming to consoles. ABC initially as an EPA game. Store exclusive the first wolf among us currently free on the EPA game store until December nineteen twenty nineteen nineteen again that's Matt Olsen over. US Gamer. I read a lot of his article. And there's a lot more there. Please go give them a quick. Gary How do you feel about this. You've worked with you worked with the tell tale of nine nick and Dennis and an Aaron and Adam. These real people that I worked with back in the walking dead is very talented individuals. Indeed what was your. You're what was your reaction game. Moore's when they announced wolf among us to or did you even have one. I'm wolf among us while I understand and appreciate the it's it was a fine game I'd many fans it wasn't my cup. Never bothered with it. I'm glad those fans all getting A new sequel very well liked game and most thrilled to hear about this Doesn't bother me that they're starting over. I think the clean slate is the right approach. I think the what is good. News is the fact that they've got the key. Like the principal players like nick and Dennis Pierre and these and the voice actors are all the guys that made the first game. Good are coming back. And that's what makes this important. Also the fact. They are finally transitioning to new modern technology. I'm not an expert but the way it was explained to me. was that one of the big problems at telltale in the later years they had they. There's really is often oftentimes. Why the Games kind of looked and felt a bit Janke Yay Ricky? That's a great word for it is that they would start doc using this archaic proprietary technology the technology that didn't as they became more ambitious with doing big more and bigger and more ambitious games. The technology was he just became weekend like fucking hassle to work. I have described to me once and I forget which game we're talking about but it was the idea that there was no physics engine for the telltale right right so like to make a ball rolling fall all down the entire world right in the ball rather than moving the ball so to switch the unity which you know everybody works with. It's one of one of the main standards Whether it's a huge knowledge college base huge amounts of resources available. I think everyone is probably will be very relieved to be working with like a universally liked and successful tool rather than the the shady proprietary tools back in the day. Yeah I WANNA say good but I was so surprised that game awards popped when they put the trailer out there. So that's that's huge because because obviously that was a game I remember people thinking the original telltale would never make a sequel. The wolf among us right let alone after everything that happened tell-tale and the closure of telephone and the buying of Tell Tales assets there. There was no clear if that would be one of the ones they brought back however during game or I was on twitter a lot I was interested to see you know of people from the old telltale that have moved on on and people that were from that group that we're working on wolf among us too. Yeah vary actions to US announcement and how emotional it was in gut wrenching. It was right in. Most of them came back that I saw like after a few hours a day. Or whatever like I've had time to process I get it Blah Blah. But it was something to work on something that closely and have this thing you were super interested in or I in love with A. You're positive about right and have it be taken away from you in a way it was and then here. It's back but you didn't know it was going to be back. I mean the bigger the bigger question that we talked about when this first happened is whether or not these money guys that we don't know anything about are going to end up being the right and responsible stewards for telltale as a hall so far. It seems like they're making the right moves. Bringing back a franchise that people really liked one of the more popular telltale franchises. Maybe the most popular one after walking dead right hard to say right. I mean what was in there. Okay but I think I think people like wolf among us more so what. He's more like more. Well liked okay and the and the brokeback Nick and dentists and Adam and Pierre Aaron and these people that made the first game good. Yeah I feel like they are right now. They're making all the right moves but mostly well. It's way to decide the most important thing I think based on what the game wars reaction is that I think again to your point that they're making moves then they got out in front of this of like we're restarting party. Yeah this isn't we. We're not I think that's probably the right move as well like not fresh half. We're not taking up an idea. Somebody had already worked on giving it to new creators. We're saying you knew creators. What do you WanNa make with this? What do you want to do with this? We'll have to wait and see like you said even though the new details about to pop up in out today. We'll decide if that's a good move up before we go though Boers in Double Zero says Gary Switching to unreal four. Not Unity. Says you said you didn't we because then and it's wrong. Then we're done he's wrong was planning to the transition to unity but they will use unreal engine. Well I mean unity unreal engine of the two big ones just fucking on religion. Sure keeping even really mature engine that every developer uses huge knowledge base huge resources. Much easy to what within the crappy proprietary tool I think I think all the developers are very relieved to be working with unreal rather than the engine that support outside of your studio. Yeah with the with rare exception. Having your own engine is a huge Korea develop is saddled with fucking frostbite for all those games and then respond. Because they're responding to actually move the needle over there insisted no we really WANNA WE WANNA use unreal unreal. And Look I guess what they made the First Star Wars Game Gary. I'm excited to see what is up to sleep. These new telltale folks but the proof in the pudding is still so far away. 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Plus you already owned the base game can add shadows mode as a standalone. DLC from four nine thousand nine shadows moved to black and white or something. I was looking the trailer on. It's black and white with notable things like you know blood or fire whatever some read style. Yeah it looked really really cool. I'm hoping that if you the shadows shadows edition comes with a new trophy list because I gladly platinum bat amendment again great game. I never played the Batman Telltale really well so my kid. My kid likes Batman. You like superheroes he said. Let's check check it out. She's seventy years old. I turned on literally the very first thing that happens in the five five seconds of the game. It's a security guard gets shot point blank and dead. My Kid ran screaming from the room. I didn't know what happened. I get that grownups. Do we like Batman. But I don't think it's something happened with like you can't take your kids to see a Batman or superman movie anymore because So greedy like what happens it just like I I guess they make the animated stuff but like I don't know what happened but like these. Carriages were originally created for children. And we all grew but we we all grew up but we still be still stayed as children. Now the GR- The children growing up after con- enjoy this shit because we're making it for grownups now. Yeah that's why they got pokemon. That never changed. That's true if you've never gonNA poke shining you never know never also today Super Koro Tom on PC. In Mac sweater. Ok the deal Oji on tip of the spear the Task Force lead on PC fight of animals on PC and then everquest is officially launched. Torments of expansion bringing players news owns access to still going. That's the one I wanNA pull Kevin. Can we pull that place. Because it's so fascinating and amazing. Tournament is still going access to the. Here's force key. Ring feature a new level cap increased from level one ten to one fifteen and much more content to everquest in around twenty when he's sixty six mansion everquest has been around how long now when when did everquest launch the for the original everquest dates. Yeah I don't know why not not only do I not know dates the things I care about anything I fucking know like ninety okay. Kevin's pulling the issue was March the Sixteenth Nineteen eighteen ninety nine nineteen ninety nine. Gary I mean these are along is the no trailer of course. If you're fucking playing everquest you'RE GONNA buy I try trailer to the to the to the search and see what happens Skulls scars values. Just I mean that's just Pulis okay for a few seconds down I mean that's everquest everquest. It has not changed through. Go cuts still looks basically the same. Doesn't it yeah look at that. How long have you been in nineteen ninety nine or nineteen ninety nine so so it's twenty years old? Okay go back go back a second were you to the searchers. Also God Kevin. I've tried no I was I was. I wasn't making fun of. There's just these were streams so everquest is twenty years old and has had twenty six expansions. We don't we we don't talk about ever again. This is the thing that just happens kind of under the radar but everquest is still going strong. Isn't that let's take a moment to appreciate. That's actually kind of amazing moment. Silence forever quest which is still going amazing. All right. That's all right. Bj Bernardo writes in question. That was a run together. Who who what? BJ Bernardo writes in with a question to patriots dot com slash. Kind of funny games. Gary and I think it kind of piggybacks off what you're talking about with Stadia. You ready go on high y'all with everything on xbox being backwards compatible xbox series x comes out and with game pass being available. I assume this might be the most. It's games available on a launch date of council. Does this mean xbox won't be too concerned about having a bunch of new games ready launch. How big of an advantage does this give xbox Fox having all these Games radio launch? I think it'd be a huge MISSTEP EV- xbox one series acts launches and they're like hey to new games and everything else that's ever the happened before. Yeah I I agree. There's a lot. I like about the xbox Microsoft Motorola series Ax is GonNa be great and. I'm hoping that they're going to have it. Be Hit with it because I I like like a lot of what they're doing with it as I say all the time I said again the other day I'll say against now xbox game pass the is the best deal in the business. It's amazing and it's the number one reason. Why if I were to recommend an xbox over playstation it'd be it would be because a game pass because I didn't think playstation as anything as good as that The fact it's back with the new one is going to be backward compatible. Two generations nations right. It was still the series. You can play three sixty games on it. I believe that's what they said. Put the diskin. I don't know about yeah I think also you gotta get them like you know online. Oh Yeah I mean you'll be able to gain pass it up and all that stuff right so you'll be so you better play three generations. That's the most backward compatible the council. I believe I'm right in saying has ever been. I think that's that's really cool as ever been backwards compatible two generations before I don't think so yeah. PS Two's PS one. ps three was one way. PSE GO TO PS ONE PS two. What's right within my life mentally for 'em I mean you're the playstation do saying? I'm British arm right on that. Point is the backwards compatibility situation on series XS great. The game pass situation is great however I agree with you. That is no fucking excuse To not have a rich lineup of like games really new games that are really going to be bangers. And specifically showcase the technology of because the technology on in the series. X is Bala Right. I'M GONNA show that off. I was getting confused about the silver lining thinking the silver lining on. It doesn't make any sense to long story. Short only do games all could. UPS One games only. Oh Yeah I remember. I had to show Jumbo Pierce right now. Houston Okay Yeah. That was confusing. So I think I'm right in saying this is the most backward compatible consoles ever been The game is great but that is no excuse. Did like we just talked about stadia. The one of the biggest strikes against stadia is the launch lineup is just a bunch of old Shit and you see you launch series x with a bunch of old show. It's nice to have the bunch of Shit as a second you know selling point but the main one of the main selling points one of the primary. So he's going to be here the amazing new games that we're going to bring you and I don't know what xbox the what makes has in mind. Hopefully they they're gonna be you know there's not going to be a new halo. Infinite will end up being a series x launch title. Yeah right so that's good. That's the number one franchise owner percent right games off. We know we want you. What big is because they just did one It probably yeah. Well they can they can remastered. Yeah Right A- because they're supporting day one like with watchdogs watchdogs. Shit like that. But I don't care about that you don't play station as they argue. It's GonNa be the platform. I party. Exclusives they've gotTa be strong the game pass in the backwards. Compatibility ability is no substitute. No excuse for not having strong launch games and of course. The irony is having said that most consoles playstation and xbox typically don't would have brilliant launch lineups. It's always a mixed bag we'll see. We'll see you know playstation like fucking resistance. That was crap up. I mean it wasn't crap but it wasn't like Oh my God that's the problem with launch. Games has launched games are come out in their usually Naggar. Big was that come on. They lost their that. They're under baked. And they come out to show what they can do with the new bells and whistles and you oftentimes and we should about the bells and whistles. We like knack was. Hey look at all the fucking Pixel Vauxhall's we can have on the screen Comeback Together xbox launch lineup and it was like hey look you can use the fucking touch bad shape. Your thing to do is breaking. Nobody wanted to shit. Nobody wants to do it regularly. xbox one was really stymied the original one point launched by the fact that you know that was saddled with this boondoggle if connects nobody wanted But like what are the xbox one launch fucking like a bunch of B plus titles. You need a plus titles at launch agreed Gary Squad up this where somebody writes into patriots dot com slash kind of funny games giving their name username platform choice and why they need help in a video game I read here the best friends. Come and find you. Everybody Plays Games together today. BJ bumgarner needs help on playstation four BJ'S J. P. S. N. B. J. J. Garner B. J. B. U. N. G. A. R. N. E. R.. PJ writes in and says I'm loving Borland's three three and how much supported gearboxes giving it. Unfortunately most of my crew was falling off so I need some new best friends to help me with the new deal. See the marijuana take down an hopefully finish off those last few circles of slaughter for that platinum trophy squeezing some playtime this week but surely we'll have more time to play after Christmas Christmas. BJ Do you have a lens implant. Do you remember when you do good for you. Very except for the DLC To drop the more. Yeah I've you WANNA play borderlands with. Dj hit him up BG Bj. Bumgarner like I said Ed La Bj's on the show today to more than usual. No you're right. These are two different ones Bernardo in Bj Bumgarner Garner man. I'm telling you I'm just so check that cool guy. You know what I mean. We just end this week already. How's it only quality? BJ content checkout with a Wednesday on KFC deaconess NS. which do don't forget about screen cats tomorrow cats tomorrow? Don't forget about funny dot com slash year wrong with everything we screw up as we screwed up on the show. We shoot up a lot today on analogies writes in with a correction. But it's actually. I'll let me explain the series. X is only one centimeter longer than the xbox one x one laid on its side. That what I'm talking to tall tall go looking destined to xbox ones on top of one game jeopar- excess. Greg Mario Odyssey did get deal. See It was free and added Louise's balloon world. You know what I fucking fucking me. I wanted Real Mario Odyssey are HD sixteen says there is actually a band episode of Pokemon. That has a man putting gun dash catch him said wow boers and double zero. Says we missed out today. CADENCE OF JAIRO DEAL SEA is out. Arguing says xbox series XYZ backwards compatible compatible with the current games backwards compatible on Xbox so technically we will play original xbox xbox three sixty an xbox went all the way back to the beginning four generations right there. I love that. ARE HD says Infamous second son was not in launch lineup. I'm pretty sure I didn't Miss Speak. I said it was launch window. I understand I understood what I was saying. I understand what I. Oh saying. We'll go. I listened back. Fuck it up again. I'm tired and exhausted. Let me I'M GONNA I'm GonNa put you on the spot and maybe you're wrong can give us an instant reaction to this. Here's my question the last time. That put Nintendo aside. When was the last time? That's the xbox or playstation at launch launch to it on Day One and absolutely banger of a game exposition. Yeah in DC Universe online playstation four. So there you go. I'll ask you again. When was the last time the xbox playstation launch the absolute banger of again? So you mean a game you had to get you had to get. Yeah right so I'll give you an obvious one. But I'm I'm hoping to the original xbox launch the halo that was a Banger and that was a system Sela has since then has playstation or xbox launch during the last twenty years because xbox came out and what two thousand one two thousand two thousand one whole well xbox the original xbox talked in. Burn me because I'm in college and I don't remember because I remember is Parker had one and he did the original playstation launch with a banger. I don't think it did. The problem is starting to seep into. I was a poor kid back then so I wasn't buying these things that long so I don't have any fucking go for you to choose where it starts to start with it for me buying. What were the launch titles for playstation? Two Go fucking mad and yet smuggler's run yet scope right. SNIPER SCOPES LINES GO. Yeah this is a bag of free zone so far yeah exactly what. S S S X. That was really experts three sixty launch with a lot of junk perfect zero extra sixty a Just a project project. Gotham racing was good as I recall. I think I think three sixty launched there was. Don't three sixty at lunch. That's what I would include that I would say that saying it resistance follow man for ps three now appears three launch lineup was notoriously obviously poor yeah reserve resisted resistance is. My is exactly what I was talking about. Be Plus Ignacio that you're gonNA laugh out of the room but listen to them aren't playstation vita the head uncharted and luminous not the best show by any stretch the imagination but a good luminous fantastic. I I I have no time for that says. PS Two had time splitters. Ailing ailing range time splitters. But Yeah I hear you saying where was a fucking mayor. Mario mainly what this proves is that you don't need bangers at launch because all these consoles have gone on to be super successful. They didn't necessarily have two games at day one. What's that somebody says? Boers says wasn't in a launch title on three sixty. It wasn't people just fucking talk sometimes. You're wrong when you ask them talking. You're wrong you're wrong. People are often more than we are seeing their. Everybody's I'm needs to stop. How is only Wednesday? Doesn't if I woke up this morning. It's got. It feels like it's something Friday one week from today. 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Giant Bombcast 599: Podcasts Are for Vampires
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That's my first big idea is i'm going to play kingdom hearts all the way through finally somebody is going to take on this momentous task. Yeah wait not simple and clean though i've definitely neither of those i'm way over my ahead. I've decided to stop playing just a scheduling issue that eventually snowballed into bigger. It's probably the the problem with having a bunch of guests it's on and then having the guests not show up over and over again and never getting to the actual premise the the series looking forward to discussing some other directions for the so your role here as you can exchange diaper. I can so wow okay well now. You've now we definitely have you changed now. We definitely have a skill all set. We can make use of your into garbage pail. Hello guest matt pascall. Hey i didn't speak all time on the beach. I spoke before insured. Someone yelled at me when comment when the comedy probably only suddenly you broke protocol but it's like you. You know being a vampire right. You have to be inter invited. Guest podcasts are vampire vampires whilst yeah we thought of changing the name of the show to an interview with the vampire. No feel like never good s._e._o. Behind this sounds good piracy. Oh let's get the lights up. Fucker vampire burst into flames. Yeah yeah wow i didn't know you had any extra become a pile of ashes and been where i've been working on it. Really it tends to happen. Never leave the house. It tends to just so what if he played doda every thanks for being here. I have a nice trip. Back would've what if not what i expected did not get a chance to like pick all my rose v._i._p. Ever yeah i can't fhu is going to be the line or whatever can i. I was waiting for that was going to base my predictions off. We taping while you're hoping to try to somehow put together our industry leading annual analysis of the international talent pool but it just didn't come conflicts for all sorts of stuff your sleep. They pro pattern probably matched up watching t._i. Though more than anyone else so that was the weird thing is i would be awake at like three in the fucking morning and i would see people on twitter talking about watching doda doda and i didn't realize that it was somewhere weird. China china great yeah i did not shanghai shanghai's where we tried to go for starcraft stuff and number of years ago to we finally gave up after enough dealing with the chinese government yeah. It's hard to get chinese. Visa visa eventually happen the last few years or so when you were quote giant bomb navy that guy sure it helped. I think we said whiskey or whatever the calm i. I think that sounds nice in aw that sounds like a extremely middle yeah. It's like an internet company. Why not i got the sense that it was telling them. We wanted to bring a bunch of cameras into the country that maybe rule wrench into the work. Oh yeah yeah yeah. I had a lot of trouble flying this past weekend. Two packs really yes. It's probably a bad idea to stuff to burritos into your backpack with a bunch of wires and then a bunch of stickers with a little bomb faces on them okay and then and then on top of my existing experiences having trouble through the the t._s._a. Check something getting flagged all the time. They were like gunpowder residue all over my clothes yeah. It's all still still. I think it's my what i think. I've tracked down. My wallet is a problem so i should probably get a new wallet residue off no wallet on fire. What would burn all the gunpowder off burrito. I was gonna say how do you think the britos figured into all of this well because they they saw that the broncos were stacked on a bunch of wires in my backpack shoved in their car and they pulled one of them out and like the t._s._a. Person was like just squeezing it and smelling it and then swabbed it with whatever they had to swab it. It was like checks out. Just brita good man did he swapped the while the burrito or the full the foil wrapper affoil around and then like he squeeze all parts of it to make sure there's nothing hiding it. They're just the carney. Asada burrito play ask. Were you planning to consume both burritos on the plane. I'm not condemning or anything. It's just i'm. I'm impressed on planes law. If someone broke out to burritos i would not be okay with that. It was just a lot of burritos while i was thinking like i gotta be really busy during pack okay. I probably won't be able to stop somewhere and grab food okay so if i just use the planning he's yeah weekend. She'd be good harbor load before a panel four marathons before you spend on like a proper drinking bender exactly yeah yeah yeah. This'll fuel me for the rest of the weekend yeah yeah i wonder the thing going packs or parenthood packs. Her parenthood looks like we're doing packs of the same really really oh wow yeah wow is panel is about being very parent right yeah yeah john panel next year i said we had we had a lengthy discussion about yeah. That's because we just came off. What was the most and by most. I mean only planned. The giant bomb pamphlet said this agenda i think because you guys run a show show before and literally run a show where segments retained it's awesome. You guys are taking this in a brave new direction abby we were at first concerned that shadows abby because she wrote all the songs and sue bird frigging organized because compose using she wrote the music. It was great. She writes the songs she writes songs yeah yeah she's the ghost rider. I just take credit for it via. Its we were initially worried like okay what if no one shows up besides our friends and then a bunch of people showed up and then we word after it seemingly well what if we have to keep making music uh-huh moving forward again you you've gone and established to like a high bar and that's a mistake for a packs panel. You're right you want so you want that. Low attainable like come hang out yeah yeah and then there was like a booth at pax that had coffins and i wired like you they had coffins okay you had to play which game in a coffin and i inquired with like one of the people working the booth of like how much was it to rent a coffin. These are all on functional full-on. Okay all coffee recall who the fuck rents a coffin. That's like did you go to the local car. I'm going to lease it. We'll see after three years. They came and got the carpet back. The words chicken already the poor attendance didn't didn't have any numbers for me and didn't give me a number to reference to market for lucre like a lucrative refurbished coffin business probably reconditioned for sale be reviews. I wonder like right there with you. Never fired never buried dropped wants so paul baird like new condition mu how was packs overall. I'd like to panel win well. I hope hope it did it did it. It was great. I really enjoyed it if he goes into greater. Thanks matt also thank you matt for presenting abby with the tonys yeah i just happened to be in the twitch chat and they didn't know that's how they announce. Tony awards within the most andrew lloyd webber lloyd webber my buddy. He makes he's so busy with cats where we made time as with anybody you know such great production yeah he just has three on the background while he's working imposing year round which is weird the only went two packs to yeah yeah ended and you fit so the it was a hitter it was like ah raven theater where we were at was it looked like the the full amount of seats was like a thousand or something and when abby and i i went in there we were immediately concerned if we may not even fill up three rows <hes> yeah thanks to everyone that came out two guests av team was like super duper helpful helpful awesome and i think they were like sfjazz at like it wasn't just folks just talking onstage and stuff because i think because they do something just like sit there and not monitor the audio audio yeah the guy that would ensure that no one can hear anything questions from the crowd ever and the guy with the camera guy that was on the platform. I i get to zoom in and out and do all the panelists we had on were great. <hes> will dan our we had a magician show up pin. That act was something else gross. I don't trust magicians yeah. I wouldn't blame me. A great bruckner frog detective great pat bear shots at him and it was great good cyber all around the panel actual convention was was neat. Is there somewhere to watch the archive of the panel other than just which we have the archive work that away. I should go up either end of day to day or i memorial wonderful. Yeah great see the musical stylings of abby awesome otherwise do the splits. I didn't do the split. If someone brought a skateboard. I would have done a kick flip but i remember that for next. Oh god air cost an audience bound to to perform a kick flip skateboards presented. I'll try and do a dark slide. We'll see okay remember. You can't keep upping the ante what if if we just keep upping the ante boy until we get to a point where this is the last packs piano we can possibly do because packs will be cancelled forever after the pan- that's we're not too far time there when it was like not too far off from that with like oh here's a hotdog cart and like everyone just like showing up with stuff to the panel like that was the thing is like for a while people would bring bits to the panel and wouldn't tell us so it would be like hey we need twenty minutes japan raker max or you know somebody somebody even being like okay. We'll get into this and then we'll know to get into it will interrupt even thirty off stage like great great school because i got nothing yeah. We'll say say we had a costume contest during the panel and there is a someone's child that showed up in a flannel and a beanie and glasses that i was looking at them and like the lineup trying to figure out whoever owned wise and then i was looking focus on this little girl wearing glasses beanie flannel and then when i got to her and ask her what she was she was it's like she just looks at me and just goes. I'm jan. I thought oh my god what if this is my child scary ship ah i found you is great cool. I checked out a specific game yeah yeah it was the very first thing after i got off the the plane i was. I was invi came in and i asked when you were flying in. I was like oh my god. He's got lake barely kind of coming and going. You're just barely going to go hand in sweating showing up like their their. Last appointment is like a handful of hours after sweats after you hit the ground up there but somebody's gonna go see this thing i i checked out the vendors game play to the vendor the vendor's anywhere the avenger. I was their ventures. I avenged people and i'm hesitant. Didn't say was not that bad and i. I enjoyed what i played so they. They deemed it. The democrat i played is supposed to be the tutorial for the very beginning of the game so runs through all the playable characters that you'll play through and it was about five of them start out as thor transition to iron earn man hulk black widow and then captain america. Was it the same demo. Were they like on a bridge. Yes yeah and that's the stuff the leaked out at you three yeah yeah yeah. It's pretty neat. All five of the different characters played pretty distinctly different a lot of set pieces which makes me wonder her. If when we get like actual story missions if a lot of it will be super linear and everything so authority kind of played like christos type of deal you could throw the hammer around recalled back. It's our websit around really fast and hits guys with it. I think they'll be a power that if you could eventually unlock the classic central thought move that is the quintessential four move and then iron man shoots lasers. We charge up your unit and shoot. Read it out of your chest. <hes> hulk has thunderclap and with hulk as weird ability where you have to look for scratched up surfaces and you latch on those then jump off and then do a ground pound black widow just had a straight up gun. What's your power gone. Hey pretty good. Ah eighty superheroes that are just the superhero fancy cable has got that cool beam uh-huh. Maybe the gun is magic yeah yeah or mutant mutant gun gun there and <hes> captain america standard brawler he could throw the shield and yeah it wasn't that bad. It looked great. They were showing it off on a p._s. Four they got a little bit into how the game will be structured and it sounds like the only time i am you'll be able to go into instances of multiplayer or in specific different missions where there's two types initially it'll be like your story missions and then like here's commission you can play multiplayer so choose and from what it sounded like what they were talking about is that you could just do a couple of the story missions to get stuff going but then you could stunt start unlocking gear unlocking more multiplayer missions if you're only playing the multiplayer missions. It just won't advance whatever narrative they have going on yeah. I know there's been talk that it's kind of structured like a destiny type of service game yeah. I wonder if it's just like hey they've got. Here's a bucket of one type of thing to do. Here's another bucket. There's like five of these different categories campaign right. You'll play through that and by the end of that. You'll have x. amount of gear and number this number of hours. It'll tell the story just like eh destiny. Some people just play a lot of game play. The multiplayer kill twenty rats but their mutant meeting rats yeah new new mutant think rats sure based in san francisco right so yeah i don't. I don't look at me new slowly thing so it's pretty standard servers. I action game because that's what the footage has led me to believe yeah. Nothing mind bowling league unique about the game plan played super similar to like the batman arkham game where very you know you gotta you gotta heavy. You have a dodge mechanic. You will be able to unlock through skill trees which it sounds like you can hot swap right between your skill trees of how you upgrade your specific hero <hes> <hes> and with those powers it'll be like a really super powered range attack or you'll unlock passive where you'll be shooting thunder for a couple of seconds. I think the the thing that to me watching three was it looked. It's like the hits kind of didn't have a lot of for impact is your. It's a weird thing to these are superheroes right there and especially the marvel movies. These are so good at making the thirds really like do the hulk throws a car at a dude. You feel it in the theater and you were saying that maybe plays there's a little bit better than it leaves. It definitely seemed like it did because when i was playing a store the sound effects and everything we're like the folk of hitting someone with the hammer sounded. It really felt good. Some of the other heroes like iron man and black widow unfortunately captain america. They hits didn't feel like they were really like. I don't know connecting and hokey you could grab dude which is great and smash them on the ground and throw them around but i didn't feel completely feel the weight behind everything i don't know if that's because all these are the basis of the superheroes before you start unlocking more moods and everything so it sounds like from the very beginning at launch <hes> they'll only have the five and there'll be a ton of costumes you can unlock in a poop tunnel loot also of where go on and the screen they looked like it was straight out of destiny because they were comparing greens purples of like all right all right so what they're doing that do their physical appearances change is i mean is it is a different shields. America is that kind of stuff would expect how they showed it. They showed it off on iron and manage showed like oh these are different components of parts inside the suit and <hes> they were saying that the cosmetics are straight up. Cosmetics shouldn't have any effect on your stats or anything but the loot side of it like oh this will affect your projectile speed or your strength in cetera. I think that's how they've been doing it for a while now because the costumes have to be so on brand right yeah can't be the same way <hes> <hes> just you at a costume slot and basically so you'd buy a costume retro like they're not gonna let you mix and match a bunch of stuff makes awful looking mishmash a wish they. I wish they would yeah yeah yeah. That's what video games for. I want yeah exactly brad brands getting a little too precious about the sanctity of their product is maybe a little bit weird some them. It's like the classic carmakers not letting you bring up there. It's like they they wanna both ways because all these fucking amazing crossovers here's thanos in fort night eight nine other fucking horse shit but all of it has to be so fucking on brand and so- sanitize easily defined by what kind of brand bible like it's just not. It's not as interesting as it could be. Eh <hes> flashbacks to like marvel. When lucas approval was is still the most terrifying processes i've ever had to deal with yeah. It was insane yeah but you can imagine for brands like that like what it would be like. Whatever your finger you know hearing all the stories about having to literally go to stakeholders at disney the and say here's what we want to do with your movie characters and how those meetings went and the flops what's involved disney telling capcom. You can only have marvel characters or you. You can only have capcom characters getting beat up in the trailer for the new marvel. That's just i mean that's just old wrestling. Do there was a brief period of time. Where if you were taking footage of wrestling games you couldn't show triple. H getting beat up okay but that that was overblown that was like a it was never you would have the senate for approval they. I don't know if they necessarily ever sent a sheet saying. Don't show triple. H getting beat up air is this. This is like attitude. This is late night stolen triple. H would have been like i think by the time he ascended to real power he fuck anymore haircut good yes before before video game hair got good and you could look at triple h his hair every year and still sucks not ex- called that he's gonna look that killer app finally been waiting for yeah yeah hair tracing the tearing each core dedicate one stranded aaa finally finally i i mean that was a big deal right for the tomb raider had all the good it did look good and then i and like it. It looks like a video game physics because it would do the thing where i don't know if tomb raider did this by wanna say it was like that thing of like you know how sometimes a character will pop into a world and then all the physics on their cloth or clothing and what we got for a set of like someone picked it up and only because that's literally what they did is like spawned yeah and drop it in so they didn't spot in the world then that jess. She gets her appreciate it. I'll go and does exactly video games the worst commercial where they're always moving somehow even though the person stay instill right. It's a video game. Yeah we the report okay. Is that out this year. Twenty say yeah yeah. Isn't that weird limbo right before new cancels out yeah. What are you gonna do with this. Year's long live service game that it shipped on platforms that are not super relevant all of a sudden well. Those disks will work yeah. Probably i am bummed out that it doesn't seem like you will be in the multi-player sections where you you can't just load up with a squad for the hoax yet has to be different the same hawk versus same hoping yeah wow that's actually because i think about it if you because we look at all the costumes right like holy differential except if you and a friend both primarily playing and you've primarily spent time with one one character and then you wanna play together and then you can't or you have to go like oh. I guess i have to go back to my like loopless. Hulk sanish yeah yeah i mean i. It sounds like there might be some logjams around certain characters needing environmental stuff to do their thing. You know like you said yeah man. If iron man needs to jump onto a hotspot do an ability arnn. Suddenly there's a line of iron men waiting to jump onto the right right yeah because it seems like a thousand ironman just waiting to kill hogger next iron man steps up reference is never been more relevant than fifteen years <hes> <hes> but it's interesting interesting to see that hogger became the reference point and not prince because i felt like he could have gone either way. I played hold on or hogger augurs just fun to say. I don't know anything about that but i'll talk about hugger all day princess just pig hogger is a descent like somewhat sentient animal dog man. Ah no that's the dog man yeah but he walks upright and wears clothes. I think in current he's into stockade actual boss a lot harder became a boss yeah go henchman no anything that becomes like anything mean or anything that they can grab onto has to then become a much bigger deal win the game a fairly right leroy jenkins card and heart stone shit really yeah that was like one of the big launch legendary car of course of course we played a fair amount of wow classic on the long ups last friday yeah every time last week that including on that stream that i talked to worry about that game immediately just fucking boring. He does not like it. We're classic doesn't sound like he's loving modern wells as old as either definitely not despite the thing apparently being the biggest thing ever around which right yeah. I'm out for final fantasy fourteen class because they will not. I'll get my p._s. Two out. I mean that would actually be kinda fascinating this. Can you do that. Other like private. Services over the original realm reborn reborn was the leveraging fundamentally felino plano fourteen is the disastrous. I like an old wow alpha client that i've just kept using years and years 'cause i bid up from seventy wondering like when obama looked like crazy the storm wind you guys like what is fascinates granite seven pre development and there's <hes> there's like a read it was hidden wow where people and find undeveloped areas bryant. I find that stuff fascinating. I love that stuff yeah. That's i remember because we played through two cycles of like i guess friends and family beta. We talked out on friday and <hes> there was stuff in that game that looked at. I can't remember what it was but there was nothing that game. There was like cities that were dramatically different that sunday when the game show fucking completely redone the but the big thing that stands out to me is the idea of sold out items was introduced late in the beta right so early on like people we knew who we've been playing way longer than us in the alpha could just roll up and give us their old quest rewards which the best items in the game and there was nothing stopping you from just handing your old stuff over to somebody else's wedding conception is now like enshrining every game essentially as well you have to. I mean otherwise you do exactly that goes on komo. They sat and watched that oh we'll visit. I specifically remember getting something from james you who'd alpha he gave me some sword or dagger or something and it basically made me skip like five levels of content because my stats went up so much at the same time that satisfying yeah it was one of the best moments ever appetite you read over. The damage is going to go blake twelve thousand percent yeah good anything else. Stand out a packs the game that we played during you p._f. I forgot what is now called. Perspectives subaru did not have a final or even like a working title. I think when we just called like ben and click on renamed it to that so you yeah i had been playing on the show because it's kind of thing you once you've done it. You can't really do it again. 'cause you know all the tricks but it's yeah it's very much based on perspective tricks and and stuff. There's a card game that i have been playing for the past couple of taxes because i keep passing by the booth called doom trooper and it's about to be released. I think it's based just off of a swiss car game very heavy. It's great to see how much it's progressed. What else did they check out. Creature in the wall was there looks super cool this weekend to finish nothing. Else is mealy popping out from pags. Oh the plate was available to touch it. I didn't get to touch the line a little crinkle. You'll get to crank it but they had a giant plate which abby and i've messed around with. It's not functional. Bring turn crank. Do those things were smaller than i expected them to be. Yeah yeah they would talk to mike. Palma your hands okay. It's a little bit bigger like pair to older iphone medicare bigger than credit card to credit cards stacked on top of each of them like that yeah yeah right yeah. I'd say it's like cut off a third of a gameboy okay originally gameboy color her. I know what you mean. When you say gameboy see i was thinking gameboy right. I'm over here going was kinda thick and i thought it was early next year so i don't actually remember undefined a release date now. I'm excited to see that in action such a cool. I'm excited to frank it. I have been waiting my whole life to crank it next year next year. The wait is over two hundred twenty. That's right rank. It creighton creighton twenty only twenty packs. I'm gonna get soldier boyd. I actually managed to usually when i didn't play games because i just go to paxton. Hang out and and just run to me like hey. What's up and go get you a few panels but i knew i was coming on this podcast. I was like i'm going to try and play games so i played the final fantasy seven remake. No is that being playable before. I pleaded so i have no reverence seven. I put now into at one time so i was really curious because i think the combat system looks pretty interesting and poorly is one of the things she makes me interested in it and the demo was essentially that it was was the i haven't played it so i know but it's like it was a maker mackowiak. Yeah probably it's the same the pm's that's the very scorpion king paying iraq. I i write it is essentially a really get much more by. Actually we know that system. Ah you kinda retire tacky attack but a a gauge and then you can use like fund or omni slash running the bed lynn's kennedy standard through person running around doing stuff with issuing commands. Having candidates is pretty well. Actually how does it handle when you're issuing commands. It doesn't pause completely right. Doesn't it like kind of kind of cruel but nobody pours like nothing really projectiles moving but fifteen did i think that's how that worked but it was pretty good about like having multiple cabinets switch them and make them commands or you can just hit like ought to give a command to barrett from cloud for example apple. Yeah someone who had known just in front of in front of the in general really i was pretty good. I can pretty fun okay and i played one more game game could unrivalled <hes> which is kinda like what if overcooked but instead of cooking a meal together with your buddies. You're building a train track before the train crashes and explodes vauxhall's so everybody can has a task and is <hes> you run around like i'm gonna chop down trees to get would put the wooden train trump a mine put them in the train tracks and you're constantly trying to get ahead of it otherwise it's going to explode and sometimes it catches on fire really hectic. Definitely has is gonna cooking game. I just mentioned i haven't played the difference could vibe but it was a fun party game then i think i would prefer so do you determine the direction of the tracks. It has stopped point in the endpoint any way you need to go gets weird and we ran into an issue. The first time where we cut down trees replaced a track right and the trip to that point it is cut us off from the other side of it <hes> to sit down and watch into it eventually exploded. Tom especially talks floors while it was fun. I i think he's on st some steam early access. I think he's coming out soon things team. Summa emma which is now. That's ish is still yeah like another two weeks or two three weeks dog the dog days of summer now now. Is that what they yeah sure girl summer what yeah yeah i only what that was like. I'm not over okay so that's kinda. Miss down sounds like pacts was a packs yeah yeah. There's good was fun jeff understand. You've been slowly reentering the world video games yeah so reach freezing. I've bought a video. I bought the video card. Yeah don't <hes> i would do this as well. I mean you sold me that fucking decent monitoring fair. This is your fault her. I realize the monitor is more practical and has you should play control. I play two hours of it and then i had to leave you head by the video card jones with that because i will sound sounds pretty good. I feel pretty justified in fuck in terms of like like hey ray tracing seems like it's really fraught thing that is like the when you see the before and after shots you like what the fuck is. This even mean well. It depends on the demo right depends on the demo for my craft stuff was it's really striking but then yet metro stuff like unless you really know what you're looking alex so i played forty. Five minutes of metro was like what the fuck am i do. That's right here <hes> more so. Did you buy the twenty eight so you just run when you went for a walk at that point called future proofing. It was my birthday. I wanted something for myself. Yeah and i was interested in in all the nice video encoding that'd be able to do does that make streaming from a single easy as well. If you like super five all the all the envy coder stuff is it really is super nice compared to the previous generation cards so i i was going in thinking like well. I'll be able to use it for that and if these games that look good eventually. Maybe that'll be nice to but then i happened to buy you know a couple of weeks or not not as long as i also mentioned. I have no fucking concept of time. I've been gone for six weeks. It feels like i've either been gone. Depending on the conversation commanded feels like i've been gone about two days or about two years. I just don't even know anymore. Everything's fucking blur. It's a it's a mess so at some point so i bought that graphics card not long after my birthday and then at some point control came out after that i couldn't tell you five line and so i know wolfenstein has some arctic stuff in it yeah apparently <hes> but i didn't like it sounded like that that was kind of a rough launch and i still i wanna get back to that game because i did. I did like a three bladed at all. No i don't like that game at all. It sounds like people are fucking not happy so they just put out a big patch fixes. Most of what people hate about i kept looking at dates and it was just it was like them putting out a patch saying our next patch may very well. I'll put it this way. The last patch patch added checkpoints dope because previously the game did not have checkpoints. That's awesome. I know that they had some point out of the ability to pause down. You're not playing when i played through that a game you could not even in single player even to upgrade skills and stuff and the missions which could be like thirty minutes long checkpoints dope. Every boss in that game has a little little like it's kind of a trivial post boston counter like survival. Wave you kind of have to kill some dude coming after the boss to get a couple of key drops just to get out of the room. I died on one of those post. Boss encounters started back at the beginning of the entire fucking level like thirty minutes progress loss including boston kwiksave quick load or is it just no there was nothing think literally the last time you load it into a level is where they put you back to when you died well is that because you're supposed to be playing it co op and you can pick the other player yeah so you run a lot yeah you have. You have the three quote. Unquote shared lives run to your three lives than you start over big europe the had burned those laughs in either of you leave. You lose a life so see that stuff that like again in the context of any three demo. Those are things that are really hard to especially because they were it kind of forcing people to play co op the three right. You had to play with them and when i played a person like i i wasn't even coming out of the demo was not one hundred percent sure that you can play it alone. I would say they actually like eighty. Percent of the time the i was pretty functional but there were a couple there were just enough times where i was bleeding out and the fucking around running back and forth around the knees just like come on man's pick me up. You can definitely hit about yeah well. That's a shame because the premise of that game seemed so strong. It's yeah it's it's yeah. There's not enough of what you want. Throw them the current the modern wolfenstein iteration honestly you saw the best of it on that u._p._s. Played at the beginning and the end of that game is rare ninety percent of the story yeah they just short game in general and it sounds like they've improved it enough that it would be worth it probably still check it out <hes> installed and it just leaves the state of that world and that continuity and a release strange place right going forward. Oh yeah which is worth seeing well. Isn't it well. I guess i guess i won't just sit here and yeah pick your brain for spoilers or whatever but my understanding is that it was so the next wolfenstein consigned to take place pre prior to this game or that's a great question the the the theory that i've seen that i buy through the most is they'll probably flash back to events from before this game at the beginning of the next game okay and then probably jump forward to after this game okay because there are major events referenced in this game as if they have already taken yeah. They've never even let you never saw the one thing that at the end of a guessing game that already happened also they wrote major characters out of the story that they'd some really address either yeah. It's it's a weird thing. It's weird sounds like they've improved it a fair amount yeah. That's a shame that's i really it was a really strong demo so when people were were unhappy with it as a man that sucks. There's some things i like about. It and i think that it is maybe a good direction for them to go in but it needs a lot of refinement enough enough about that. Let's talk about that turned out to really fucking good video games. I heard served. I know at least one person was really not impressed with controlling three which meeting louis <music>. Here's the thing yeah they're fucking wrong that game then okay that's fair and so i came away from that demo day three. You're going like okay. Control has the potential so you really last week is that it gets pretty slow start. Yes until you get enough powers and wasn't that thing wasn't that demographic right at the beginning of the game. No it was the or at least you didn't have the third fourth. It was like okay in that demo. You can have all the powers though they started right before you meet the janitor. Isn't that five minutes. Yeah isn't that like the janitor. Once right at the beach was right before you you fall in the whole. Get the get the tokenism okay yeah yeah so yeah like that's not it's not far in but it was far enough cuts yeah and and that was the first time i guess they had shown the game in a natural state whereas previous hands on's. They've been like here's all the powers unlocked go nuts. They did it give this was this was like a hey. Here's the power you would have and so you have the ability i think at that point where you would probably find the telekinesis and you might find the shield if you had had enough time and that demo but <hes> i did not find shield that anyway i came here from the demo thinking like this. This has a lot of potential. The combat seems like the the combat seems like it's pretty good <hes> the characters and setting and story were initially initially grabbed me atmosphere and style. I don't think that's the thing is because of the atmosphere and the story and style of that game are so big. I don't think it's a slow start at all. I i think that the perfect start i for. I'm having fun just running around reading dossiers emails like like i was in the idea that you walk doc into this building. That is extensively like an f._b._i. Stand in quarter and there's no one there like it's just that initial premise i was like fucking in the the idea the of an earnest x-files typesetting really exciting because who's done that yet no in even the x. files games were barely been try. It even has its moments of just like you know like somewhere in the lower your finding like pretty funny shit. Oh my god so much good flavor. That's that's kind of remedy. I guess yeah yeah but like i can't say enough good things about control it. It's just a great game it. It is like someone sat down and took a long look at quantum break. It said we can do way fucking better than this in every possible way and then they did. It's like everything i hated about. Quantum break is is like ten times better just like fixed and then some and like just the the trust they give the player in terms of like. Here's a world where you have to navigate it and yes. You have a map but it doesn't really there's no in world line. You have to read the signs in the world where you're going and that good enough for that to were in. That game is so good. There's signs everywhere which is super helpful because that map is kinda shit like it's like go to the sector yeah and that's about it yeah we we found that low how decipher budgeting need it seems to be the lesson everything from like our souls to like our to the map from earlier this year like navigation in in and of itself can be super fun and engaging grounds that location in a way that d- don't because all the signs of real. I was when i played that demo. I was like man this map up is they need to draw a line in the world with the fuck. Are they doing twenty nineteen and i was like oh wait twenty minutes later i was like okay no they made all the signs real and they work and they're legible able and want to believe video games. Go train you to look at the walls of almost you're looking for some dumb joke. They put on a texture which there's plenty of those but actually good. You're trained. It's not give a fuck about any of that but they they make that place feel real and and the combat i think flows together really well. You know it just it. It gets better on top of itself as you unlock more of the abilities and stuff like yeah so yeah you just get a lot of options later like right pretty much like an hour after where he had played up to last week. I got kind of the last big power her sure yeah the last big power you get and that really like click to the game into a place i don't know if it was partially on my end of me not wanting to explore the powers of the different types of guns as much as i could have just been like i'm just gonna use the base pistol and cover shooter and then also occasionally throw shit at people but like once i got all the powers working together and all the different types of weapons and stuff it just became such a jeffey best had has a flow it. Has this really good good flow to it yeah and it's not it's not a cover shooter like it doesn't even have a cover system but as soon as you shoot you can crouch and then aimed aim down sites will pop you out of crouch but you do not go back into crouch when you let off so there's no like pop in and out type stuff and yeah i think the there are few weapons but they are powerful and like the archetypes are smart and necessary like every every one of them. I'm feel like it has a purpose. I didn't upgrade all of them to the maximum because they have some of them have a more limited purpose than others but yeah it's it's got loot the kind of helps with that system because you're slotting onto the weapons and like okay why want this base pistol to chew through enemy armor though the telekinesis actually you just devastates enemy armor that's weapon in it was just throw shit at people i will say maybe my number one like legitimate game concern. An aside from performance issues is the whole upgrade in inventory systems really clunky like the fact that there's a limit so you i have to go in there and like you can't sort by like i know i have eight different items that do the same thing but different percentages scrap scrap the seven th weapons perspective specific so it's just like okay. I don't want all the schalken upgrades or whatever and it's just like. It's just really like basic p._s. Two era inventories system or something we your teddy bear. You're really i wasn't there for maybe a total of fifteen minutes combined throughout the game like nick yeah. You're you're barely in there once. You get your load out down. It's more a matter. I would check every couple of hours ago like oh did. I find better shit yeah yup okay. Now's a good time to go through and shit like that. Stuff could be better for sure. You're right but yeah. I think it's a it's a really oh you fascinating story. That goes in directions that that i found i found unexpected. I thought i thought i had some good ideas about where the game was going to go to the three working theories one of which was like oh. This is going to be like that. Bio commander reboot a significant other is going to be living in your arm <hes> yeah yeah well not an arm initial thing was like okay. This is how this is going to go. This has to be how this goes. I'm like no yeah this the story it's really good the writing the story itself but then also like i think is really i really like her. I really like her. I i think she gets a little quickie kind of halfway through and just like oh. That was a weird or like but think about this. Though there's a there's a moment halfway through that game we should we'll talk about that separately but there's halfway through that game where she comes to this realization just like really fucking love doing this and so it makes that light hearted nature work because it's like for the first time i'm actually enjoying myself and not on the run anyway. I think it makes sense for the character but my issue is like a twin twin peaks or something in the way that show does humor is like cooper's never liked delivering a one liner about how weird thing. They just have characters saying things. It's every team plays it straight. Maybe appreciate a little more difference between characters acting like real people and characters address the audience winking thinking way too distracting but there's one moment in particular. The moment tweeted out not gonna say anything about it. Don't worry but like literally ends with jesse saying that was awesome awesome and like it was but you don't need to tell you i'm here saying that to myself but like i think her inner monologue is interesting because it's like if you if you if you turn that off if you would get that kind of twin peaks effect of just like someone playing at totally straight because you wouldn't have the context of her going like janitors fucking weird i love he's helluva t- yeah. I don't know if this is a weird mechanical question but is it a game with lake. A lot of sort of miserable side stuff or is it's not it's not as not just a twelve hour like here's the through line. There are off to the side. As far as i can tell there well. Maybe not i was he's gonna say there are some things that you don't get missions for their street of power that i completely missed for hours <hes> just because it was a side quest and i didn't bother doing anything okay. That's cool yeah. There's a there's a lot of stuff off the beaten path but also a lot of it is locked off like people are we're starting to compare it to like a metro dial game and he isn't. It isn't like there are areas that you are locked away from. Sometimes i'd godless like security card access level metal gear solid one style and some of it by like oh. I can't traverse this yet. You see some stuff pretty early in the game and also there were screen shots of that power. You were talking about that late power as like okay. I'll we'll be able to come back and get that yeah yeah. It's i really like the story. I guess. The only thing that's about the story is that i feel like the the ending of it is it's embiid per se but it's just not quite as much as i wanted out of the end the game it's not as resolute as the final encounter doesn't feel necessarily like a final encounter. I honestly thought they could have cut that entire last fast combat area yeah. We'll get we'll get india. Figure out a way to talk about this or or needed you to pay off yeah but but the you talked about the blue with the music can like that's like corners that music is but it's perfect because of who gives you the court would be listening to that bullshit and it all works in that game just fucking works and the technical aspect of it is a bummer because it sounds like those based console versions like crap yeah i think i think digital sound region hits like ten frames a second in spots. They've come out. They've come out and acknowledged the problem. It's it's like it's honestly one of the worst performing console video real dad like the thing about it and i don't want to justify this in any way but like if you find yourself in a situation where you only have a base consul in really wanna play this game i kinda got used to it and be able to anticipate where it'd be really framing as like especially especially if you're using telekinesis in a big room or something physics well they they they have said they're working on it and they will try to improve it but they also said it's gonna take some time so you're not dying to play it. You know you could try to hold out for a couple of months and i'll just say like it's bad and know it's bad but it is very technically playable. It sounds like the xbox one x runs it best of the prison. Break was an exclusive on their taxes right p._s. Four pro is a little below that but <hes> yeah so. I bought that twenty eight okay so tell me about an important part of me on this car which i've already definitely going to buy the roof life. It's the reflections and it's like really simple stuff that just that game is very striking and it's not the traditional ray tracing thing like all those retracing demos that you see are very much about just like look at these lights looking. I'm scott shadow and shadow but in this it's like it's the realistic reflections of your character reflected back at you through pane of glass and you see through it also okay and the per position in the world in the reflection looks appropriate appropriate and the the stuff beyond it looks appropriate <hes> there elements of like <hes> in in their g._d._p. Tech demo was with a lot of it was built around using telekinesis to pick up light sources and fling them around that stuff's pretty cool too because everything gets a shadow like it's kind of the doom three thing it actually carried through into like to its logical conclusion but then also this game does a lot with like colored. Lighting is weird yeah now. We're talking that you get excited about from colored colliding but like they're you saw stained glass or anything no <hes> no als but there's a lot of good really read areas. I've seen that looks and reflects the way all that stuff is really striking. I i bet those like really like yeah. Yes and all of that stuff really comes together and it's no one one thing it's not. It's not point at the this and go here because it's like it's every frame of it. You're just getting a little bit more detail than you. You would otherwise and that is the kind of secret sauce of the tech and that's why those videos are so good at showing it all right. Here's a red block and here's a green block and here you can see where the light two colors are blending into a third color because everything just interacts with each other and why can't you and that that's a very mechanical showed off in with control. A lot of of that stuff just comes to feel really this is like the first game where the tech has really been passed through like some very focused art design yes and applied and it was actually real setting like the the people that put that together and use they use technology thought about the fact they thought about how to use in yeah. That's that's fantastic and and it really it's. It's really good foam as well if you tell them about stuff own what kind of frame rate you get so i'm still getting an adjacent monitor will kind of yeah some of that any i it ran. I i have no performance complaints. Okay buying you know whatever the seven hundred dollars using monitor in the thirteen had all our graphics card. I have no performance but yeah. I'm on a ten eighty now before okay so that's what i went from. You was a screen justify them yeah it's i i it made me feel justified in the purchase office and in a way that didn't expect like i bought it thinking like this is dumb fucking thing too by the way for for this for and it'll at least do video rendering stuff so that's like utilitarian thing that i will benefit from no matter what even if i'm never gonna play fucking metro or battlefield five or when and and this was pre games calm i wanna say so like the there was like that rush of announcements of like your game like minecraft and volvo over the games the games that are going to support this shit. I bought it on the other side of that so i was getting it and then i got it and i was like i guess i'll download battlefield. I was like i don't own battlefield on the p._c. Oh whatever and then didn't play anything that took advantage of it for the first week and a half two i did i did that quake to <hes> and so that was the only thing i played on for a while. <hes> and also like did not have a lot of time to play video games. They're off of everything else so yeah. I made time for control. It's awesome idea. Was that good. I i am really happy for remedy yeah yeah. This has ended so so well because they've been in the woods for years didn't quite hit no and i i know people put the game on a pedestal and i think it has its place in terms of influence and all other stuff but this is probably my favorite game that remedies made i'm with you wasn't a big fan. I'm not gonna wake fan but i am a big max payne fan. I like this and i is much as max payne. I think is like you know it revolutionary in its day and and did a lot of really important shit and that can't be ignored like i think this is the best complete product they've ever made. That's that's great. I honestly could talk for hours just about the supplemental files. You're finding because they're like they're like you know official official reports which is like story related stuff but then they're like all this stuff about urban legends and like there's one there's one pickup about korean fan death just like it's real turns out. It's covering it up and i've seen some screen grabs of that finger puppet show oh you talked about going around and i just i need to see that threshold kids. That's fun but i like people. Were going nuts over like i liked it fine but the kids stuff didn't it was okay. I liked the i think my favorite like audio visual stuff for the darlie dr darlene videos yep that dude out the the guy played by alan wake just kills it yep. Would i've run into two hours in upper end you might have is a guy the big glasses so he tells you about like the telekinesis power comes from the russian nuclear launch codes yeah. I love that yeah that guy that last video that last video. I'm excited to get home plate yeah. This sounds like a game to play. Yeah sure yeah i it's it's just a it's just a fantastic fucking game congrats to remedy yeah for sure excited by new video yeah i i mean you can if you're going to need one for the tech support found in call of duty modern warfare warriors. You've got to do your do diligence josh dow. I wished imagine a grand like yeah. There are others. There's some cheaper ones out there that the habits if i'm going to do it. I'm going to tell you how to live your life. I remember this period when i got the g._t. X ten eighty in talking to you how like hitman runs at like sixty frames a second. I combine c._p._u. Bottlenecked and you like you have an i seven. It's only fee is oh. It should be noted c._p._i. Bottleneck in and i knew she totally was stars right you. I that is yeah. I'm pretty close to happen to maybe due to the whole like maybe looking at these a._m._d.'s this time around now. I don't know expensive again right like i thought it bottomed out. Maybe came down at least a little bit yeah. It was super expensive last year and i think it has come down. Okay i get like intel is maybe either going to be on a new generation next year. There's always there always no no no. This is five years okay since the one you have is like the first iteration right previous generation thousand anything anyway that was done me very well for a good long time and it's it's getting to be time. Also things sounds like nine jet engines we should we should we should we should really deliver alito. C._p._u.'s oh you know shut up yeah. I hate later snuff time nor the place. When you take a quick break and then we'll come back and argue about destroying computers renaissance like you are a convert to remnant from the hell yeah man animal title in the history of video games seriously so i i saw people chatting about this game and it's like a third person shooter dark souls and i'm like that's not really my. I like third person shooters. I'm okay with the seoul games. I like some more than others but nasr seems like it's not necessarily up my alley and then a third person on the quick look so you told me to grab occurred downloaded outed and honestly within fifteen minutes the first time you start shooting a guy. I'm like okay feels amazingly good like it's really hard to describe. I thought i compare it to resident evil four with one of the first like third person shooters that really did good stuff with like yes you shoot him in the shoulder and like stagger basket not that shoulder enemies reacts to getting hit in that game is credibly satisfying yeah like the fodder. The first kind of type of fodder you see is basically just this like very squat. It's like living sphere or title arby's league round of dudes with tiny arms and legs to run at you in giant hordes and like when you shoot they'll do things like tumble of guys dolan bad yeah. They're not nice at all. Nobody's nice night game. Nobody is nice that game. Nobody is nice then. Everyone is nice. I guess that's the guy that upgrades gears kind of a decent in guys like who's the ruin next. She's happy to be working with you. I can't speak to the other classes the pistol that i started with like you can just like doubleclick as fast as you can. Click the mouse button like it. It feels like it's a really good feeling. Did we talk about this before. Dia covered the basics uber out two weeks so i was on the hunter class which is kind of the long ranged get like buried standard a rifle not like a single shot rifle with your class benefit being you do better critical hits and i was kind of weird basically brad's bradley like don't pick ex cult class because everybody i know who's playing that game is called yeah 'cause they start with a he'll. He'll in he'll and it's just like okay. Of course i'm going to pick so i was like okay. I'll i'm not a great shooter guy. I've gotten better with like playing apex and stuff but i'll give this a shot and honestly i'm so glad i you did because like enemies games so clearly have these vulnerable like red spots that you know to be there. Chris shot spots and the shooting is so good. I was just like in there. Just stand in yards away from these dudes just shooting them. The is great but honestly the number. One thing in this game that stands out to me is just the sheer amount of shit in there that don't tell you about the league for you. Discover like we were like sharing and secrets before the quick look like you were telling me you go into the archives downstairs and not only find items but also information story stuff like basically the first time you leave the hideout that you start in a key on a table left behind by the guy you're trying to chase down but if you turn right back around and go back into the hideout with that key all of was under like three more doors you can open yeah and you get a new skill down there and a bunch of talent within a war and i sharing with you. They tell you that at all. No have to poke around undefined that stuff. There's an early on in the kind of the first main area go to there's an enemy that kind of chases you around and seems to be invincible like bullets bounce off. He's got two big swords. It's garden blocks all your bullets when i realized when he's climbing over stuff he's vulnerable so i could like kill him wherever you told me that i was able to kill him this weekend which was process yeah yeah. I've run into that guy and like the first time i went down and then died to him. Yeah ooh wherever the enemies like rushing worldwide can't handle us and then i go back and he wasn't there again. It's random like it's fuck that you might find him a good leader. I wanted to kill him. Then i yeah i i tried so many enemies rushing. They came out of a corner. I seen i was kind of like i feel like this. That encounter was like unwinnable is is maybe he should have picked the hunter who has an ability to enemies behind walls of that. Maybe roe now. I am i will say i found that game immensely more frustrating by myself as soon as you you go down you're just done and you have to start back at the checkpoint versus obviously with two or three people you can get each other a bit about like i. I love the game i love to like. I found that i i never call people. I know 'cause i'm like do hardware. I just don't my thing. I like to do by myself but like playing that game sallow especially when i go to the first boss this tough are maybe the worst part of that game for me especially because they're just kind of just souped up enemies with a bunch of yeah yeah it is is very much an exercise in agra management and sharing resources and like calling out positions on stuff that that dragon we thought was probably the coolest boss of anything justice physical so mad. I didn't get that shit but i did watch that one part will serve. We may have lost the susan's liz's back that quick look was a great example of why the game is cool because like at one point so we were playing video game and he was farther in the story than than us so we didn't nobody knew what we were getting into and like at one point we walk into like that. Bandit ended din. Yeah we're like the king of the bandits standing up on the catwalk like yelling at us like it seems like shits about to go down for some reason i was control the way it handles like who can decide where you faster able to or who picks dialogue options weird that stuff's not very clear but this dude his bandit posse on us and all of a sudden. He was like wait a minute. Where'd you get that pocket. Watch and we have the only one that had the pocket watch foot. This is a pocket watch that you only get by talking to an empty who is miserable and he only gives it to you. If you've you've talked through his entire dialogue tree yeah and it's got good stats on it and stuff but this dude was like wait. That's my grandmother's pocket. Watch if you give me that. I'll let you go so we gave give it to him. And then we basically avoided a boss fight presumably because we gave up the globe up got like and then he gives us a bunch of cool armor here. How some bandits shit. Why wouldn't you just kill who you take. It also the first line of dialogue that i feel like i had to pass or choose correctly. It was like hey where did you get that and you say from who and is like how do do you know that guy and you say something like oh. We're like family. Oh you're tight with that guy okay. You're tight with me. As long as you give me the watch it was a cooler counter and assume that would have resulted in a fight if we hadn't had that item it looked like a boss arena in very much and the the arm that he gave us was that the one that gives you a chance to just like regenerate great bullets as you're shooting in the thing is incredible yeah because when you've got that to shot i don't know if you've got the coach gun for the coach to shot it's kind of a shotgun shotgun rifle hybrid like when that ability keep rocking and you can just keep shooting with a thing like five times in a row without having reloaded love a good proc fantastic and then yeah we hit this other we just wandered into a side area and all of a sudden popped up it was called a tale of two loses and there were two different. N._b._c.'s is named liz in this area and all of a sudden they just started spawning a bunch of waves of enemies and it was just like protect which we do know with liz's unfortunately fortunately out day vibe that fight and like the worst part was died and we just see this locked door this glowing box of z. like you see like a purple and blue item in this room that you probably would have been able to get into. I'd lived at four point the video game. Does it work a totally good yeah. I am looking forward to saving the loses. It's cool. There's all this shit in there that can or cannot happen based on what you've done previously veasley in the decisions you make and it feels very dynamic and the thing that was really interesting and really exciting for me to read from the comments on that quick look was that it gets a lot more visually interesting after it kind of has a very drab post-apocalyptic very much just like rotted out american city keyboard comparing it kinda the open world and near that area affect overgrown cities look amazing graphically dairy i for was incredibly boring. It's definitely drabbed really breaks out there or other worlds that are super different games cool. I really want more of it yeah. It's really cool. It's hard to go. Try playing with rondos because i was like i can't play this celeste. That's the problem. I yeah and what's interesting is okay but like i feel like we're never on the same page because there was no communication there's only one player controlling dialogue and making choices like you probably end up getting roped into some bad situations that way and you're going to get match with people who just run through like button through dialogue and like that's half the cool part of that game and more like not wanting to fast trial for the same locations it's like when do you go back to upgrade your weapons and all that yeah so it's a game you have to play kind of specifically to really enjoy which is only you could ping the world contextual elite eight different ping's k. Let's say you're playing alone and still ping stuff because you're used to it real quick. Did you do play any of that. Pixel the late a lot of it fucking lot of i heard people i i only played a couple of games but people seem to like it a lot more than they thought they would. It's really it was it was it's gone now. Apex legends solos were really good because it. I think it helps my overall game because it's like okay. The stakes are way lower. I'm not fucking up a team when you want to go practice and they're like i wanna drop hot. I wanna drop hot or hey i'm going to i'm going to pick this weapon that i have barely used because i want to get better with it and not letting a team down by running in with a new weapon or a character who is old. I don't understand yet and so just from a purely instructional channel standpoint being able to just play alone was huge. It also does kind of like flatten the amount of variability in the encounters because every time you see a player you know themselves yes. You don't have to worry about oh. His buddies gonna come out of anxiety or destroy people fighting. You know like you can run up and shoot them. Both laugh laugh about it but also getting a lot more kind of one on one like pure shooting practice that way and also like the circle closed a lot faster so the first circle was pretty small that's interest and and so it it really it flings people together a little bit faster than i think it does. I i could be wrong but i did. It felt like a much tighter experienced. The main gave me to do that because one of the things when i was playing apex paid for why it was like this was a non-issue like it didn't force and it was way too slow ahead of a circle and doesn't have an circle circle in this one wasn't really a huge problem because you've got three minutes as it closes in pretty slowly but also then let me drop wherever i wanted to explore locations actually learn the map in a way that i hadn't before because you drop into a location is like oh i i understand basically what school town looks like but i don't know like oh if i run this way go to this and run off his here and this is here and this is here and <hes> and and being able to connect all the places on the map because i'm running cross it a lot more often yeah was nice <hes> and so that ended up being useful and it was it's yeah it was a lot of fun handled the because it was an event events tied to a separate currency and unlock separate skins like they had to backpedal on that like halfway through it and go. We'll sell them separately fuck but even then there was like twenty dollars for one of these scans now. Let's other pricing has always been structured. It's yeah already the skins game. The iram skins game comes for us all and yes so that stuff was maybe a little a little fucked up and humane i with lifeline most of the time because that was the one that i felt like would be the most kind of can heal or hamstrung yeah. I guess there's that passive passive is is completely use as well. The other using consumer was foster forgot about that one okay that does help the obviously the revive is completely yeah but also relevant. I've been playing lifeline nonstop anyway stuck with that for a while but eventually it was like actually started playing to the challenges because there are a lot of like you know finish top three with mirage do the you know send twenty fucking people so i i started just playing to a lot of that and setting down gas canisters and and doing all that shit and octane actually seem pretty well suited for the solos because he can generate out of combat. Which is the thing you want when you're playing alone is to be a little more self sufficient. You don't have to worry about going too fast for your team. That would happen to me when i started playing i realized is like you know that first circle ogle still closes just slow enough to where any character can make it across the map. Even if i was dropping way far away and still like oh shit i gotta go and as long as i was on my shed i i was making it but yeah it was. It was a lot of fun and i don't know that i can go back. I tried to go back to the free player stuff but now it's it's like oh. I have to play with other people in button it up because these are strangers and i don't wanna fuck them over but yeah i they should do think apex is going to be more like in the mood to play better oils as a group because i knew we played pudgy a couple of times pretty group up that much yeah no i i i usually play alone and and so the but the the main reason i don't really group and play games with people a lot is because i am an a now especially like my time is not my own all the <unk> so it's like you know i i don't know when i'll be available to play and i don't know how long i'll have so the idea of just like let's sit down and place pudgy. It's like by the in two thirds of the way through that match. I might have to bail on it to go. Do something that's fine. It's happened before we kill you would take you yeah right and and so the apex you know those matches are short enough and you know they're strangers at the end of the day so it's it's fine but the <hes> yeah i i think apex i think with the way the paying system and communication stuff works a makes it easier to play with strangers and official in that case i i can play like i can play right now. It's not like oh. Do you wanna play in twenty minutes. It's like no. I'm gonna sit down and play this game right now and play games maybe and then stop <hes> because i gotta do some other shit and so that's that's the thing that the being able to play with strangers. Well apex really really helps yeah. It makes sense to me. Though the the highs of chicken dinner have now be matched by another better. Now i keep coming back to g but also. I don't know that i'll get many more chicken. Dinners skill curve that is probably mike pass me by right. I don't know like i kinda just playing for a little bit and i go back into early and he played a couple of games will smith and i was still doing pretty well. I think that problem is kind of endemic to all battle royals a somebody who tries to get every ninety nine theme that they put out. I played that game like every two months. Now sure people are really good. At those types of games i think this strategy pudgy and the cadence of it is slow to a point where we isn't always about being crooked trigger right. Yeah i know the map. I know that a lot of people landed over here. They're going committee that rotation especially the rotations and pudgy of really what i like hearing hearing we'll talk about that sounds like it is like primarily strategy game and then is key. I don't think around gun you have on the ground shooting secondary almost yeah and it comes through definitely for sure but like that's what i like about it. I've when i was paying apex recently i we kind of me and my friend did a couple of games back to back just so quick and the encounters we'd get into would be over really quickly because like oh we fed potty and or these people just shut me kilby super fast dad and i'd like more drawn out encounter and pudgy tiffany linden that show yeah i think kind of splits the terror is a little bit more time to kill and stuff like that that was you know it's it's console game yeah. It feels like a console game than pudgy does and yeah. I was hitting on a lot of those weapon combos that they kind of seem to be building four with some of the stuff they added in the last. Few patches have just like okay. Here's this s._m. G that is good at disrupting shields and i've got something that is you know like that. Our guest health yeah better get a literal disruptor mozambique which is with the hop ups for both and that's like one does she a better shield damage one does better non shield damage and playing the game that way you your pop and people real fucking fat yeah. I think this was a a great addition and it's fun yeah so i ended up playing out of the solo stuff. I took a break for that for that. Modern warfare off the thing which i think is a cool idea and and i had an okay time with that but playing with strangers what when i when i when i played that with people that i knew that was a lot of fun as a party game kinda like hey. We're having a great time here playing it. Then to four people grew up at the plate or to match make i._t. People well you can either what whatever you got. You can private matching they. They have private matches based on the alfa had that now the yeah you would know yeah but yeah it's fast. It's fast paced thing of just like here's this to to round based thing in the last forty five seconds. You know something like that. I thought that that was a lot of fun. The thing that kills it is all the downtime between rounds is way too much you get a lot of like all the rigmarole of displaying displaying a scoreboard and saying now you've won one and they've one zero and now we're switching size and like all the kind of standard call of duty scoreboard shit <hes> a almost takes it feels like it takes longer than the rounds do a lot of the time and that needs that that needs to change for i think for that for that mode to the thing. We need that time so you can say give them a good english. Welcome and the start of every round fair enough yeah yeah hold game about manners. You're you're getting random. Load outs in that even so you just you kinda just even just the countdown time before the round starts is plenty for you to look at the load out and go okay. I've got this gun in this gun. This grenade okay all right. We're good. Let's go and what does that as elegant objective base thing so it's it's. It's just it's not just kill the other people right so it is it is killed the other two people but if you don't there is a flag that spawned as a center of the map. This is a very quick capture as overtime thing so it's like okay either you are you kill the players or you you try to capture that flag so then then that flag draws everyone to the center to either in usually someone goes through the flag and then get shot or the end of the round one way or the other if if don't go so the flag as well pave the the team with a high winds suicide right say no matter what kind of which way it goes so it's meant to be this fast paced thing and it's it's a i think it's a really cool idea and yeah but <hes> yeah i think playing with strangers. It didn't really didn't really do it for me. The way granted you know when i saw it a while back so there's that but yeah i kind of same experience like play mistry. I played it friends and like when you can kind of like okay. We're rushing after it takes. That's cool is how but when you don't know what the pay is gonna do. It's like and a lot of i don't know what the fuck was going on but it feels like a full third of the time. The other player on my team was idle and it was like all right. What maybe there's something weird with the menu flow where people realized that they were still in the lobby. I saw people were just like checking out the guns. I don't know what this does so. I'm going to fire into yeah. I hear the gun sound amazing. This year. Animations in the d. or specifically is one that just looks incredible. There's some really nice looking at sounding shit in that game play by any chance now. It was only on okay so yeah yeah well yeah we ever retracing demo or trailer out. You can watch right then do right now <hes> and one last thing that i just have to talk about deals done the destiny account linking yet. I did cross save stuff yeah. Do you know that i'd lost thousand silver for doing okay well. That was my second question is that is that actually how that works so you pick yeah so i know that so it seems like because i have a thousand silver on both p._s. Four and you pick which platform you want to carry forward. Pick individual characters. The silver will combine abbas that was that was the problem is i had a thousand silver on my p._c. Account which i'm never gonna use again right so is the thing that i should have done signing on the p._c. And spend all that silver what what i don't know you're never gonna use this characters voting rights nothing can buy or even the ball doesn't literally nothing your life. I taught the ice station now my mind p._s. Four characters are now on all platforms. I was hoping that the what does any of this. It's a loop game. I was hoping that the unlocks like these sort of collection level stuff on the back end would carry over. Hey that'd be great except premise destiny as enabled prosecutors say the letter characters on any platform got that much but what does this about losing currency okay. If you have currency platform you cannot combine it all and doesn't migrate okay so when you say you lost. It's not like you have to spend a thousand slow. Whichever account your coming from won't carry are we that paid current. Oh well i guess they can't let you buy items on one platform and then bring them into because the platform holders will get mad yeah. You've got items that you gave different company money for right yeah. That's still okay. That's still sucks yeah so so none of it none of that stuff combined is hoping to be able to say. I want this character from p._s. Four and this character from piece. I didn't expect komo news ltd flipping it. Would it would be something like that. I really hope that the paid stuff would all combine together and it's weird because that character those characters still the existence some kind of limbo unlinked you can deactivate cross save and go back and play them again deactivate at some point in time select act. I actually this is the cross say that that's what i read originally but then when i actually did the process it's unique deactivate cross as to access these non active characters. You can link the p. c. Go back to your fault but then if you do that you have to wait ninety days to reactivate the cross-platform stuff and also not there's no i can think of zero reasons why i would go back to that p._c. Character it was lower level. It was a thousand silver that would have been locked on that character or those characters away. Okay yeah knowing that as much. It's perfect yeah i mean. I didn't buy that silver with real money anyway. It was something that just the ultimate or whatever the digital here's the upside side of the cross the cross platform stuff yeah. I did the account merge. I fired the game on xbox. I only have the base destiny to okay. I don't even own taken. I figured it was signed into my main character and then i proceeded watch thousand points worth of achievements bringing up all was so good i need to do that i i i was i've met to test that out. I would do it hello trophies unless unless they do work to prevent this in the future. I i guess yeah. I guess remains to be seen if the free versions of destitute that are coming going to let you get trophies and achievements period voima spend money i would assume so but the i mean this. I know this is ridiculous. Put the glorious future where you play that game only on the p._c. And then just sign it on the council's occasionally and get all the stuff seems like may have arrived are you don't care about achievements achievements anymore. Care sure i mean. I think i've got nine. I'll be honest. I had a good time. Existed existed a strange limbo where i don't care. I don't care if you can get him you. Will i sorta thing. She's not going to turn them away. Yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't kicking achievement. Remember that time when you could open the fallout three council on and just enter commands yourself all the achievements beautiful time times avatar the last heir bender of its day the the amount of effort the effort to achieve ratio is high so great yeah then i just can't resist. I got some gears pop achievements. Oh oh man i don. I downloaded that because i heard it was actually good. <hes> okay. Maybe i don't know it seems you so you might like it because it seems like it's a clash royale. It's gonna make you wanna play classroom yeah. It's just a shadow of that. Somebody somebody writes in about clash royale every few months and every the time they write in. It sounds like the developers getting more desperate for people to come back brad. You can earn trophies playing to now in in class. Yeah <hes> yeah okay can raise up your level. Last time somebody wrote in there just like throwing items that people now great but i don't. I don't need that yeah. I played an hour or so gear spot probably at as popular bad bad bad. Is your own like you know. It's like skin color hair color. I was gonna ask about the deal and <hes> and then like there are little automations with them after a fight where they run up to the other customized one of the other player and then they chainsaw them but instead of cutting in half eventually they shake for awhile and then the head of the fun go go pop that lost just pops off and rolls around. That's almost worse. No sound on sound. What's that it's totally different and a and you. Just you know so instead you get like i'm pretty sure it's still john dimaggio but pitched up because he's a funk pop now and it's just like fun uh-huh yeah. I love fun. Go pop because everything i like and make it worse as really great for that. It's like here's the one of the worst art styles imaginable. It's like oh you. Did you like super deformed deformed characters. We westernized in the worst possible way. Check our thought about absol- bad dog shit at she just dig achieve. Yeah hell yeah vagueness android good yeah android apps. Let's can go. Oh my by tex- figures coming soon. This cheque's finger techies an android dog who had his dog. I enjoyed uh-huh i've ever bought it's coming on dragon at one marina now. I just thought he was the first okay. How do we feel that these river ducks keep seeing streetfighter. The rubber ducks and i get some rubber. Ducks are the first ones i saw but then i feel like i saw another property has also been decades. I think that's the fun goes are so fucking huge that everyone's trying to do like their version of vinyl collection. I like the ducks okay just like little rubber duckie's but like the the <hes> lock the ducks got the hair there i- there okay because the core of uh-huh fine like a rubber duck looks like it's a real thing for a good long time. Here's your fun spin on rubberduck. It's a lifeless hunk of plastic. That's just the dentist is they could find it really is the is just terrible. Game has great which ended up for the first time in a very long time. I know i know this one. Show this. You made me do it. I did it make you in a manner of speaking you mentioned. Lou and i said oh i lightly because the numbers go up then i four <hes> with cliff is we'd follow that model year. Here's a premium subscription for wiz khalifa's. We'd found our you get like a weekly stipend of like it's kind of that's around the time i stop doc planet. I think it was going to raise either. I'm in no. We'd still looks good you so the are right. It looked clean claim weedlitz. It's very clean. The new yorker venture started last. I think yeah that's unplayed. It was right around the time they did that and there was like a candidate level hockey theme. I did that uh-huh bit hockey. We'd yeah yeah yeah. I noticed i haven't received any we'd gifts from you in a while so i figured you still right yeah yeah. That's like the last asked mobile game. I played that did the whole like fucking. Send your friends shit on facebook to keep playing this garbage which used to send to like. Look at those like like it'd be funny. If i go exactly yes that is exactly what i used it for as well and now that you've said this. I'm probably going to new york. Just thought it right okay. I got to get this. We'd i've gotta get this. Oh gee sour diesel and you would potentially for cush ed k. k. k. yeah. I think that does video games <music> ram up talk about that later. Okay okay. We'll save that. It's not a video game. It's true wave like it's right out on the table over there. Nothing okay that is don't turn it over dole felt he was so excited to run to the studio and bring in here. We'll get there we got. We got got more important things to discuss first apparent move into news now or take another quick break. I tried to be conscious. Field bladders all right. Let's move into the news for the week. I think it's safe to say that it's probably done the most fraught meet in games in quite some time this week. That was another thing kind of from the outside looking in initially only catching whiffs of i really did stay away from the internet for the most part it was it was nice and then i said i should. I'm getting ready to come back to work. I should probably check out what's going on like oh god yes. I had a brief similar experience because i was flying cross country when the social started coming out so it was sort of bits and pieces as you were changing planes and stuff but it definitely reached a critical mass quickly enough that yeah it was kind of all anybody could talk about for understandable reasons. I i guess we should just go chronologically yeah. You're her <hes>. That's kind of the way i've got these stories arranged. <hes> it pretty much all started on monday night when gerry cole who is the kind of long time composer of the scrolls <hes> and i guess about two other games which a lot of other stuff is not aware of. I've only ever really heard his name attached to <hes> stuff skyer him he was accused most of <hes> of rape of and other kind of predatory and sort of retaliatory behavior <hes> first by a female game developer and then at least one vocalist also came out and sort of started making some more allegations. There's a kentucky right up that spoke to those two women and this is where it gets a little fuzzy for me. It sounds like they've also spoken some other people a little more quietly mancini's that have kind of got other corroborating stories so that stuff built very quickly around him. He denied everything <hes> and that was kind of first thing and then i i guess you would say the floodgates opened after that yeah yeah did lead to people saying like a wolf yeah. Let's get into my story. We have this other person is also a serial abuser large a large number of people sort of felt empowered to start talking about their own experiences with other people because a lot of that's builds bright lights in private conversations and such. It's just one sometimes it just takes one not to get ahead of resolves but i think we've heard some pretty <hes> i guess i would say like detailed explanations of how isolating this can be since all this has gone down and how hard it is to talk about until you realize that other people are going through the same stuff. Yes i feel like it's telling that i even subconsciously ed leans towards stories involving names. You've heard <hes> which i feel like is worth keeping in mind here because i've got like <hes> i've got like one of the co-founders here and then <hes> delivers might in the woods or those stories that i gravitated toward a minute certain point. I realized like okay. I am so consciously pulling stories hear about how people who are well known. You know maybe realized i mean the point. I'm trying to make is there have been a lot more allegations against a lot more people than i have gathered here and i just i yeah i guess it's worth keeping in mind that a lot of the stuff flies under the radar because they're necessarily right like big well no names but <hes> yeah co founder michael antonov was accused of groping a woman in the middle of a v._r. Demo like pre free released like she was wearing a headset in private location. I just like almost hard to wrap your head around yeah. He's had what to say. What a fucking pizza. Trash is this. Is this the one i don't want to mix up stories here where a second person would eventually named someone. I talked to ten other people that corroborated. The story reported it to our nothing. That was a separate incident at oculus this mistaken yeah so there are some signs of just maybe a maybe a broader culture of that sort of thing inside oculus like one of the facebook like v._p.'s that would address something like this came out and said that they took it very seriously building. This co founder has been gone from the company for some time yeah and with this was pretty facebook oculus. I believe i believe that's the case. This was before. The riff came out so they didn't. They didn't get acquired till after the rift was or did they know that thing launched as a facebook perot okay okay. I'm actually not sure honestly the timelines for me. <hes> i'm sorry i don't i don't know then i guess the other one. That's gotten the most attention of horses <hes> <hes> neither woods co-developer slash composer alec logo. I think is how you say his last name. <hes> that sounds right to me a broad number of people from multiple all disciplines and who had different types of involvement with him have come out and talked about just a wide range of misconduct and physical and emotional abuse and just a litany of things yeah this started with something a little more sexual in nature sounds of things and then but yet it sounds like as as people started saying hey wait me too and connecting dots around this this guy and his orbit the yes yeah some of it was not sexual nature. It was just a very extensive picture has emerged about that particular situation and yeah. I i think you know a lot of people were feeling very raw. All week and the stuff was hard for a lot of people to come out and talk about as much as it is necessary very right up through the end of the week and then we got to saturday morning and found out that allah had taken a life which frankly i think we can all agree just made the entire situation dramatically worse yeah yeah yeah. It's it's a for everybody involved yes yes definitely like already already raw on nerves and then that in the middle of it already tons of people facing just abuse from every angle right right yeah just a lot of garbage being flung these people's way and then that kind of kicked into high gear predictable opportunistic aspect of just as harnessing this for their on their own agendas or whatever <hes> dot sense <hes> but i mean on top of that like this. You know like this deprives the people involved of of ever really receiving any kind of like atonement or feeling of tharcisse. You know like that's just it's just a very final into the situation that does not necessarily leave people affected by the stuff stuff in a good place. I believe it was the aleksic out and said don't use our grief to fuel your hatred. Don't go blame these people the modern she was starting to receive shit after yet which is by ashi unbelievable cheese locked her twitter account very quickly afterwards which is not ultimately very surprising yeah <hes> that's yeah i. I don't know what to say. It's it's a a series of terrible situations each other. It's been gut wrenching watching it as a bystander and all i can say i can't imagine what the people involved are feeling. Scott benson posted a long thing this morning detailing his relationship with with i have to give him credit for the amount also with the depth in which he's written about the stuff over the past few days i mean he is really yeah. Dug into a lot of nuance in the situation and reading what he wrote really struck me this. I'm not saying i went through <unk> abuse per se but i know people like that as he's describing his relationship with with loca and the the the manipulative methods and all that stuff like i've i've known people like that people like that that are no longer alive and like the went out under differ somewhat different circumstances but it's it really resonated with me the in a in a way. That's like okay yeah. No the some of the parameters in this situation are different in different horrible ways but some of the same horrible ways that that i was adjacent to with someone else and yeah it's a i read that's up from was like yeah. I i feel like i've been there like not. Maybe not to that depth but but i've seen some chunk of that and it feels fucking bad add mom. I think one of the best points to take away from scott's post is that nobody ever knows one hundred a percent of what's going on especially involved directly or indirectly because you can only see parts of the ethic but like the people who i don't like the people who are out there on twitter harassing anyone about stuff like this is like you see what that person wants you to see and it's very a small instances of their of slivers of what they put out into the world. Nobody ever really knows the full extent and it's not until people start talking and and for me in my situation it wasn't until the memorial service where everyone came together from all of these different silos off portions of this person's life and started keep comparing notes and then it was like oh shit you just think back to things like person said once dismiss as four or just like no one had the truth and then you start piecing together after the fact it was yeah it was bizarre bizarre reckoning at the end of all that to suddenly start piecing together these aspects of this person's life that you had been completely cut off from or sheltered from what i for whatever reason season whatever that's i'm not going to sit here and talk about my own weird experience with something adjacent to it. That's not the point but ah i will say reading what what's put up on medium really like when like yeah okay i. I see exactly how this could happen. Yeah i've been i've seen the stuff like this happen and it makes a lot of sense terrible situation across the the board and you could see pack as well as working around scenes my friends you could definitely see like they would drain situation but they were just it was a weird paxton wade yeah but yes the little bits of communication i had with people who were at packs and everyone was like for as much as uh for as much as last year's pack was weird for some behind the scenes reasons this one was times ten for some folks and yeah yeah no shortage of people trying to nitpick the public nature of the disclosures that have been made about the stuff. Yeah you know everyone wants to treat everything like a fucking true crime podcast fucking. They're going to be the one to crack it and all this fucking bullshit like let it be well but i mean you know. I didn't feel like the main thing to notice that like we're in a situation where like the people involved here. Don't have a lot of other record at this point. I think now has you don't have to go far to find stories of institutional solutions failing for a lot of the stuff and seems to be like the place that we're at right now is that some of this is going to be inevitable as as positive change hopefully about. You'd like to think it's hard to know what to say. The last thing i would say about it is like it's easy. If if you're an outsider to look at the situation and i think scott actually addresses us directly but said like for most people this started on assad started on a monday in on and on a saturday but for everyone involved this has been years and years and the people that are close to the situation are going to carry that with them for the rest of their lives honestly like just to some degree but like it's so easy to just log onto twitter under behind an anonymous profile statium shit to somebody because for whatever whatever reason you're doing it and then just forget about it and like it's it's hard sometimes with people who are figures people who are in video go games or movies or whatever tv public facing people who designed this image of them in your mind's not knowing the real then stuff this i makes how could they be also responsible for this and then you're able to be like my image of them is right and then just like fright what this person. You don't know what all your image of them is right and then like now honestly forget about it. After a couple of months like there's there's directors and musicians and stuff that that i found out okay i mean it stop supporting them to my best of my ability and i don't really think about it again <hes> but the people around them when this shit comes is out are going to live with that and you know it's not your right at all to to harass them about it. You know we're we live in a world where roman polanski used to no one's gotta me awards decades later so like that is where society is at the site. He's been at fortunately knowing about it. <hes> it's just it's really just the avenues for these things to come out are much broader than they have been. In the past <hes> it is it is a really rough subject contemplate and i can't imagine what it is like to live through <hes> uh-huh so yeah i guess we will continue to follow this stuff as as adults or yeah. I think it was like just barely breaking last week and we were kind yeah. It is a little too hot right now started like hours before the podcast clearly snowballed quite a bit in the last week yeah. Let's see another news. It feels trivial to even read other headlines at this point but it's telltale games being revived yeah like but not by by entertainment. Is this like a deep. This is very much a combination yeah ailing the name to this things. We're gonna a us. It s sure which they seem pretty upfront about sounds like just wonder what the necessarily getting them. I it feels like the touto name is not in a great place but it got said a lot yeah. They're getting is a brand of the people may have heard of true. It's why you know like someone bought the claim name immediately and then started slapping. Bring it on like some bad free to play games of that era so you would see like guernsey cards in stores that had the acclaim logo on it. I would find that just to have that yeah. I how did that work well in that case no but like teach nordic someday we'll just drop the nordic and just become q. and too casual followers of games james it will be the same t h q that was always there. It'd probably already is now to some of those. I mean they didn't even give the logo the same phone tree they've picked up some of the licenses that the old t h you had and all the stuff and you know i for some folks that lucy business as usual so the telltale name even though most of the times it's been said over the last year or six months whatever it's been has been in a very negative context of it falling apart got said a lot so when you say the next game from telltale so you will have people that don't follow this aspect of the business there will still just be like oh yeah i like that. What do they do the walking dead. They do the walking dead. I want that that strong wrong bad they did. They made strong bag. You know it's worth pointing out that <hes> i believe all of their games have been taken down off of storefronts at this point right sounds like them back on maybe on the epoch store or something but like there was some aso's slows because sky bound came in and read. That's that's what it was walking dead. So external business arrangements may there but it sounds like one of the first priorities is to get some of those games back up for sale did they also get the catalog catalogue and it sounds like not everything but some because a lot of that stuff is licensed in yeah. I'm sure individual posing like how are these contracts void or were. They voided right. I tower went under like you have to go back and do deals to sell bone again. The the the net did the netflixing ever come out. I think the strangest thank you think they had some interactive minecraft was it. How do i didn't mind your crafting athletes. It's like maybe they're hoping they can still maintain a relationship netflix has been you know pollyanna talked to a number of former tell tale staffers about this this and also a number of other people got out on social media of course and express some of their feelings about this like surprisingly as raw as that situation was what had happened people. We've got a pretty wide range of feelings about this other group of investors swooping in and i feel like the taking up the name general sentiment i saw i was one of man fuck that yeah yeah for the most part but also i feel like this has happened to so many other times like with t h q or these other companies and stuff like it's it's not it's it's not the first time this has happened. It's just it's the first time it's happened to accompany that kind of fell apart so spectacularly and also happened very quickly and the key properties languished i years before somebody right pickle that stuff up and this has been like what well under a year yeah. It doesn't seem like a bad thing if they're going to haya people from phoenix what they try and get some of the hotel people back yeah that that's that's the thing it's very much like inherently thinks is awful ba. Let's see how hard you actually commit to this. They've hired sounds like a small number of former. Tell tale employees back on under contract one of whom told polygon let's contract. They is fair to snow to their mind seems tentatively okay for some of those people and i'm sorry i'm looking for a couple of quotes here. Some of those folks would have found other work by now quite a few of them had was so you know you're going to get a handful of people maybe <hes> so the the newseum telltale jamie ali. I guess how you say his name said it's imperative that we take a slow and methodical approach to growth. We want to build a sustainable company with a healthy non crunch orange walk work culture. We'll be hiring eight to ten people in the next six months. We'll be somewhere around thirty by the end of our first year. We'd love to bring back everyone who wants to come but that just isn't the economic reality of the games industry and it would be irresponsible of us to do so. That's exactly what they absolutely stretched themselves. Waiting eighteen men's health like you'd think about that tell story well. What are we talking about it then but just like the rapid expansion of telltale when they moved out of that building above snyder and and got to their own office and we're suddenly like oh we have four separate teams. We're building now and all this other stuff. I remember talking to <hes> job and ran into him on our my way two packs and it was talking about like how like yeah we're looking for people to lead all all these teams knew all this stuff and it was like man seemed like a lot all of a sudden they got all these properties like it was really easy to close those deals on the back of you know how successful walking dead was and some of the other stuff they had done but actually executing on it and making it happen and building like responsible pipeline down turn that stuff out whatever the all their technical issues we've talked to that stuff to death now on top of that running the company hand to mouth with no plan for when the work fell through as the outscored i think someone said that they think they hide them back because they had expanded the tau tool yeah which is interesting because i feel like maybe one of the first things you'd want to do is get a new tool became very quickly the thing that i well if it's a matter probably of like hey can. We need to do some work to stood. Maybe put these games out on on additional platforms like do stuff with the portable over make sure that they're getting supported on whatever updated windows ten. Maybe whatever you got a._b._c. The easier to build on your existing tech base for national and then you've got at least got some money coming intro then say okay. We've stemmed some of the bleeding here from just like starting a business this now. Let's go invest in new development and then at that point. You're like all right. Fuck these tools the gist of the story. I'm pauley on based on the former. Tell people that they talk to you sounds like a fair the amount of skepticism but that they are looking at who has gone back and what they're saying about it and feel like okay. Maybe we'll give this a benefit of doubt. They quoted <hes> buck who was a narrative designer at the original telltale she said. I admit that i'm skeptical. But given the enthusiasm of those involved. I'm choosing to be cautiously optimistic about this new company calling itself tell tale and they brought the same director of operations back on who they say was well white. I am not involved in the mismanagement of company so i mean it seems like if you're going to do this. They seem to be doing it from an okay place. Brain see right yup yup time. We'll tell for sure. No i got to tell welcome welcome back. It's going to go get the go. Get the bad side. Only we institute new processes around here while you were going great awesome. I haven't been sleeping four hours night. That's my process. I mean we're going to extract so much money from him. Helena one bad weird corn dogs firewall. Oh yeah remember that you did you infuse energy drink. A corn dog gone multiple ways. Yes yes <music>. Energy drink well a leading one. You had to leave in one okay. I would like to try that and i feel like i missed the window. Don't don't worry we got other stuff. We'd have a lot of ideas jeff no but i like corn dogs chicken sandwiches. What about bear claws yeah yeah. I like bear okay. I'll put it this way. I don't dislike a bear claw. I'm not gonna go out of my way to get one over like an apple fritter. Okay okay or what about aiming for say that it's real while you know just. I just want to put it out there all right coming soon to u._p._s. Near you do in english this one time for me. You know out for it. It sure i do often enough. We thought about pigs in a blanket and a blanket and a blanket so i'm on. I'm on the blanket blanket. Where do you need me to be on this blanket in the third and fourth one thank you you're gonna get maximum morph into this. Oh boy in the whole okay okay what if we bake our own bread and then we put an ostrich egg in the middle okay that'd be really big slice of bread and i told odin i'm losing track of which streaming podcast we talked about which we are food on and i didn't do that. We talk about ostrich checks at some point. Yep yeah with danny. Okay right. Okay okay so it's pretty much all done on this podcast. I'm glad it's been something of a blur here as well. Ask awesome definitely as a string of u._k. Based guests recently ask ro yeah excited to welcome paul hollywood next week is right. I've never watched the great british baker what they were these. Call it degrade bake off there the man i it's music like amazing but the thing is i mean. Maybe you're used to this because you've watched more u._k. Television and then spent like american reality shows are so mean. Nobody likes each other yeah. That's why i watched them which is nice but it's also nice to like once in a while just as a pallet cleanser cleanser have a show where people are enthusiastic about each other's work and like build each other up sure to me. That's terrace house sure yeah yeah. This is a very similar okay. I can get that he said. I don't wanna watch british bake off. That's fine for work van last year they took us to it was like we recreated the great british bake off ten ten and you're going to be. I don't know how to bake ship now so i made his approving drawer from another thing. No i made a series of burns does ars pasta bitch okay. You don't have a soggy bottom. Yeah okay moving on the thought. Show <hes> with through these remaining headlines real quick cd project read in the course of talking about some financials has basically made it sound they are going to move to a kind of witcher cyberpunk cyberpunk leapfrog kind of model great sounds like they will do a witcher game after the cyberpunk game so amoni then some money and then some money best tactic handed to them for sure. Let's see <hes> well. Whatever i mean. I didn't finish witcher three but by all accounts that kind of seemed like like an end to the winter games today. There's always another wichita necessarily presents on the end you data. I'm not saying there was no oh chance but they talk about kind of managing a dual franchise business with some other projects off to the side a company that can have more than one ongoing annual like franchise what they're doing. They're doing a game right now. They have not done before. I liked their line in there about like it's a generic throwaway line that you could find any press conference but it kind of felt real from them where it was just like we found out that good game good video games that line now. I need to find that. I leave worked out yeah. You should take this back. You guys came here okay. Here's the list more than franchise. Okay games make money. I see what you can do about the switch. Okay yeah show the confirmation that they probably will go straight back to the witcher. After cyberpunk is kind of the story yeah yeah that seems our financial results are the first half of the year again was mainly affected by sales of the witcher three which remained strong this further confirms our belief that investing in top quality the games pays off sound so self evident but like those are games that you can tell a lot of work when you a lot like and we'll if you think about which are i mean as a franchise i mean three was really poised to do well out of the gate but even three like word of mouth and time really helped that a game like as it reached more and more people and i think that got them to the point they are now where you know people are really looking forward to cyberpunk the next time they do richard game. Assuming cyberpunk doesn't just like completely shut the bed and you know all this other stuff. I could probably be the biggest game of the year <hes> or close to an elder school. They've reached a point where like a a new release in the winter. Franchise will be like a fucking event a day and date fuck and mark your calendar totaling total. Also i think cyprus is gonna do pretty fine. I did also like that's the game. That's like the number one game by friends who aren't like super keyed into gaming are are excited about even before that like it was just such a stylish like the first time they dropped that trailer. It was really just a good way to get people to go like this is something something that looks different and cool yeah and then the kind of stuff of course help them yeah and i guess they're saying that the cut scenes in that game first person so now which apparently is a big deal freaked out. I don't know i mean maybe i guess i'd have to see it all in motion if if they if they do that poorly has that kind of like the whole thing locked into first person or just cut the cut scenes but then also like that you can play through the parole yeah i can see like some people like the cyberpunk is john. Nra is very much like open to like body. Mods like really the people are getting excited about making cool sl repulsed fucking net rather dude but wait they did show a bunch of cut scenes of showed a lot the first one the viqueira waking up in her bedroom and that was authored personality. I forgot about that. <hes> yeah a lot of stuff. They've shown ours is shown the player character. I started to say like there's like your character but apparently it just seemed druids. Get bent out of shape about this issue when you haven't even played the game. You don't even know what this actually yeah. Yeah go on great. Let's just take an hour and talk about the new star wars trailers getting better shape or something you haven't seen hey so wait a minute not to just like sit here and relocate the last six weeks. I watched that death stranding trailer and i didn't you understand your commitment to appreciate and continues vision is really impressive that whole bit with them hooking the baby up to the machine and like literally holding i'm and let's holding a baby that is like needs to be soothed the del toro seen okay watching that bit of that well going. It put the whole thing in a much more obviously already a little surreal but like then having my own little bridge baby here b._b._c. that fuck that who the baby's babies conceived babies. I don't care <hes> <hes> dumb. It made that whole thing seem like ten times as fucked up when there's like eventually the baby's bad i don't know let me know what fuck you. The baby was that weird. You jeff keely being in that game. No that was like inevitable that come on l. crazy like what are you talking about. Did you see the all the people like going through kajima twitter and pulling any time he was with because he said he was with a person 'cause he said i have a lot of friends that are going to be at this game and so people were like instantly dated like piece together timeline yeah. There was another actor that i can't remember the director of shaun of the dead that guy at great yeah yeah he apparently he wants to in japan and he's like thanks scannon me shit so get ready for that. I don't know why i thought i'm not going to tell you. Why did i go. I thought i had see because you want it to be true. I just typed kojima steve buscemi into dougal because i thought maybe that awed he would be such a good kojima bad like we said it's been a blur yeah that whole thing man that whole trailer i mean i'm in a play that game like at some point it just like that. Whole thing just came off to me as one of the most master batory things i've ever seen yeah. It could zima masturbate hitting the man. I would say whatever i'll let it but i don't wanna watch. You know you're making me watch it because supervision. Ah just about any of his games could come off that way. You're right but i think that okay so i think the reason that that i feel this way about death. Stranding is because it does not have the context that metal gear hat because we did that game tapes. We've looked at that and you think about expectations and you think about like with the metal gear. You're solid franchise you start to build and subvert expectations with de stranding the expectations become more about kojima than about well you yeah so there are people at the early predicting pretty strongly that this is highly autobiographical sure yes games. Maybe not yes as much yeah. All art is autobiographical man. I think about it and so like that's kind of like rubbing rubbing me the wrong way. A little bit with all this stuff is that it's like it's even more focused on him than even m. G. s. ever was and that's something about that doesn't sit well with me. In terms of just like i want to know about the game and play the game and the characters in the game but instead it's like here's cream came out on stage and people losing their mind and jeff game and yeah and all the and it was just like it was just a bizarre thing that whole that whole games com thing was interesting to see because because it really felt like games com looking at things like e three was week this year we gotta get in there. This is our year to get in there. Let's announced comanche. They yeah they so they contacted acted me and offered to cover travel. Go out to that event so that opening night thing <hes> like that was the have you been games. I've never been to code the old so they're making a push yeah so like that said to me like they are trying to make a push to english speaking press and and pretty good timing to the body that organizes games yeah well the from kelley but <hes> but it was all like government paperwork looking like stuff. It was a bizarre our german flag to step on the basically what is the governing organization behind games calm so anybody that the european equivalent of the u._s._a. The u._s._a. welcome the u._s. K. or whatever the peggy was oh is it peggy national league germany the u._k. Peggy is actually over germany because they've got add various right yeah exactly content regulation you actually cooler than peggy but adequate office when i'm at now who's picky peggy's the european the lady that tells you which games you can play because it's like a name pigging cooler than you twelve yeah. She can drink how man jail hanging out pitch well. Yes all right guys know peggy short for margaret. What what the fuck outta here. Camping all right that is that were are gherardo pair gret peas and even in margaret. That's why i'm saying. I don't make them names so you don't stare you just can't say that one of face value move on to more quick stories and then you guys can have your in ninety seconds well. I got i got pull norman rita's after news. Okay yeah me too all right well. We'll get there. We're going to get this mushroom. Real big got yacht club announced about shoved stuff. There's there's more content coming to existing shovel knight because the last one well. I thought they said that about the last update i'm not planning no incredible amount of post release support this one which is weird aflame blood-stained and it's fucking chevron. I ended what the fuck is going on. Shovel knight is very popular so much so that you just lift the character model and put it in other games <hes> he's fifteen in the maybe shovel knight backed bloodstained and then you create a character and that's what if it was a night but we had a shovel armor you become shovel night. I know i took it off. Chevron is this bizarre this point we crossed some line into to too much shovel knight yeah for for as much as like you know there was that aspect of like every indie game has every other indie game character in it for all these platforms fighters and all the stuff and shopping it was in all of them but just shovel knight now shovel a shovel knight amoeba shoved crossover in a way that none of these other games did no. It isn't rivals of aether. This is the stuff that finally i only played core shovel naess asap and now i have no excuse not to go back through and find my fucking three d. ass and play on every other shoveling shovel tonight but this looks cool. There's a card thing is like a weird card game of cards scene of cards so the multiplayer fighting mode is in this. I thought that had come out all right yeah so they're adding the multi player fighting like it's the same as that weird a synchronous thing that was already in there right but like more fleshed out much stuff around character customization other yeah and then the straight up newgate yeah. That's that's why i'm actually we're actually talking about. This is they also announced. A brand. New game called shovel knight dig is it like steamrolled degrom my immediate thought and watching the trailer like the big but shovel knight will accept breath either accept nothing else to it looks like a dig dug eski moral dig ask kind of action game. Okay i get another cmo dago exception. If we're if we're entering a world where franchise named dig becomes a thing if i can upgrade that shovel to be a grappling hook i worship business enjoyed digging. You probably can extend six into stuff yeah or you could stick into a woman jump off of it and the multiple shovels shovels nate watch watch the trailer at very much seems like that which kind of exciting but it's just an end shovels night and evening shovels with your friend. The shopping presented by tonight all right last story. They announced seven yeah. Oh yeah it's like kind of a turn based r._p._g. Now they came out on that is they were heavily inspired. The director i think was out there saying yeah. I played a bunch of dragon quest. Try whiskey of like we should do that so i'm gonna kick this metal slime yeah ah oh my hair on this protagonist is just incredible. This dude has one of the greatest drips in video game. I've seen uh-huh hair his suit i don't i don't know what my favorite aspect of the story is. There's the look of the character which is amazing. The japanese title is yuccas yuccas seven whereabouts of light and darkness and then there's the fact that they put out as an april fool's video footage of this turn based combat mode yeah back. They broke all just like oh by the way that's actually what we're making so. Is that the thing. I didn't think i assumed i guess i would say is that this is an optional mode and you can still play action game or are they going r._p._g. Yeah especially because like they were really kind of doing win some innovative stuff in the brawlers so that i didn't realize that this happened and then people start saying like oh. I'm gonna misled brawling so i didn't know people liked that comment switching between between the styles and have you lose all the con- item sensitive stuff but like this australian up like a bit defects during the r._p._g. Stuff too yeah. It's all menu driven that sounds like from the makers of no more heroes comes. Just appreciate that like casino. New character makes sense. Maybe a you know get a new style and they're like maybe they were just straight up to you on how to make more brawler it does it does sound like a largely a clean break from the previous games in terms of story yeah and setting and everything anything so maybe a good time to get in probably nods hearing officer but visually does it look similar to the other side is going to be so with the the menu you look very persona button bronson and big funds and stuff like this percents <hes> all right last ask real fast. You've got a couple minutes. Maybe three what is your like wade relationship with dodo this. Let's get into it you so like angry about it. Just we had good times breath over the symbol deliver. Don't o'clock the truthfully. We talk about the championships the week after ended. It didn't slow through the cracks here you go. It was a good one. Yeah it was clear. Matt came in wanting to talk about not not <hes> <hes> even though i it's kind of a it's a thing that makes it like super. Interested is for the longest time i mean this is the ninth t._i. And the thing that kept happening was like is a player ever going to win twice and the thing that happened. This was a play one t._i. Twice there were five of them and it was exactly the same nineteen from famous team two years first of all even have team sticking a year. It is incredible that that alone was like oh yeah. These guys are really onto something and also last so owes you the team that won twice last year. There were so many people because they kind of came out of nowhere. They had their coach step happiness. They're awfully amir. They picked up a random pub star for their mid player and they won and people like some people were out. There being like this is a fluke t._i. Like they just abused the mets. They're not really a good team like these other teams and doesn't play for a year yeah their their position one their core player just like i'm gonna go take a fucking year logging earlier. I was going to say all of that. Stuff just sounds like some straight ups. Scrub quotes dot text shit yeah very much very much but and then he came back after stand-ins playing and they had middling results and they just made lebron a clinic. There were several points where i i was like maybe they can't beat the hell g._d. Or or liquid at but like from the group stage every match they played it just looked so fucking dominant they went into to the winners bracket after the group stages and stayed in his record and just one and they've done that both times tops in the mid guy that they picked up last year was just a good player hasn't lost a game aim on the main stage ever which is just bizarre earth theories series. I mean and they seem i the thing i like about. Oh jeez. They seem to have very good like mental state about themselves. Whereas some of the other teams lacking where they dislike they seem chill and they off about it and like that is a huge part of so many teams just like bad manners and drama and a lot of ego really doe teams g a huge dump of toxic ship people games in the edward by a little bit. Maybe more than anyone else on the list all right. This is all it is here yeah. This is what i get for any tune in that t._i.'s because i know like the liquid one one year and said some shit. He's sports control one of them. It was my control. She gave a good guy that okay okay. Do you don't wanna get do not want to <hes> the sheer like they won two times in a row the total combination was something like twenty one billion dollars between the two. T._i.'s split evenly between the players because coaches and the oregon stuff it takes on there. There's an e sports hall of fame money ranking thing and it's like the five members of o._g. And then a million dollar gap anyone else but yeah like some counter strike player or something maybe started was freddie four million dollars for the price per for which beat out four nights thirty million dollars that they did for their world cup so is like the biggest video game prize pool ever as well and this got me back into again in a way that i didn't think was possible because it's still possible to buy stuff are now. You're still up. No they shut that down immediately. Uh up it is if you come bye levels okinawa i tried to t._i. Ended you combine level in the past. They give you at least a couple of weeks. It's very hard. I know i bought up to level five hundred so i could get the naked eggs yeah fake punt these guys now doesn't have the acts what does actually about the x. punches countries you. I don't know does anyone l._a._x. Anywhere else on this at the table have anything to say about data to know. I'm all under lords now. Sorry so if i didn't get in then claim the treasure chest out of the battle pass away even get those. I think the chest was so i mean that's what i have. No it's a fun game turns out. That's why i say about the right way to play. Doda is open the chess. Don't play the game. It's definitely a big thing for me working at this how i played for a couple of years so i'm gonna i think we just skipped over the fact yeah. I'm gonna take my head of this is a fun game. Oh yeah it's likely what difference did you play yeah. He came in fridays ago. Saying ah forget exactly what you saw legally good hero to start with and doda and then how did you react to that. I told him to start who sergei title. I don't want to hold this. How much did you don't touch it for too long. So actually i will say like like this is one of the few things that could have actually gotten me back in ben told me about that web site where you click into who you mo- mostly play as in league and then i'll give you an equivalent in doda and then i checked out wind ranger okay and yeah very right now. Man sniper snipe is good. The names are still part of the charm tough. Get no it's fun. How do you feel about icicle was an punching people in the face and shouted wars punch line. I feel really embarrassed because i thought it was a panda. The whole time is it seems like it'd be really fun but in reality you're just another thing yeah but that's what i liked about league to enough but the thing tusks oh is when you text comes off the cat like a cartoon type up outright. Okay tried sane. Wars wars punish right. I've said it happens in exile. I've said it many times every time approx the multi coins fly out and you hear the sound of the slot machine for you know about the arcona no. Do you know who the vote was like. I would need to know who ogre maddow wow okay. That's a good show finally third head on ogre who serve voiced by nolanda the third a third north eastern his is. I bet that it's still down the bury the player yeah i'll tell you i'll tell you i'll tell you what if and when i ever buy a new monitor i'm going to try to buy a new monitor literally being having that discussion discussion for i wanna say free monitor brakes that exact monitor and i don't use it anymore. You need to set him free out to justin calvert who approached me recently silly and said hey. I've got one of those monitors. We all bought back gamespot if you wanted. I'm going to get rid of it otherwise say. Thank you for the offer but i still have to that. The money that i go on jeff you can speak as one of the best upgrades i it's. It's real easy to laugh off all the dumb and video bullshit bullshit but <hes> jeez thinks pretty good pretty good. I think is just as good. It's actually not as good but it's good but let's just say adaptive sink <hes> very very cool very cool so jan. You're going to play davis. <hes> you know. May maybe let some new player. Drag your fucking shit down. I want to have fun run. There's role matchmaking now screed alright. I bet it's your time has been expanded and then some as can talk during the break. We're gonna go norman reedus and be right back <music> a few emails. If you like. I like emails. You please large moving. I swore it off as look. I decided enough was enough. Thank god adler. No there's been an escalating creepy crawly themed emails for some time because really creepy crawlies around restaurants in the vicinity. My cat has been one of my cats has been looking at of an area of the house a lot at night and now i'm convinced that there's something on the other side of that wall ghosts once somebody they want somebody wrote in about inadvertently eating roaches. I decided that it was impossible to tell what was real and what was fiction. That doesn't seem too crazy about you could do and we'll be selling roach meden stores before two launches decided we call it exclaimed lower start up. I called it a <hes> ryan in lagrange park illinois. Here's a tweet from mica saying he would quote totally do it. When asked about remastering the three burger king games aims including sneak king of course he would leave. What do you guys think is the world ready for the return of sneaking and four k. g. r. i have fond memories of playing pocket by research reaser over xbox live back in the day flung. Steve band is not going to thank me involved in sneaking their series. Yeah the fuck yeah right foot that man like gold farming whatever that was inherently evil to begin with and i hate to tell you we'll say sneaking sneaking terrible robber bed yeah yeah. We had a lady roll up on us with the grocery store yesterday. Pushing pushing beyond sausages honestly very forcefully the fake fix hostages have not gotten the snap she kept saying you have a really well all done in the league in kind of bacon ish but i was just like who are you. Why are you making trying to make for good. I don't wanna see the king's face in enforcing enforce shining face king. I if i'm ready for that burger king a gamer i can cut the gaber pictures on talk was this is my favorite set of promoted. We gave her pictures. What about that. Tom cruise moving rains. There's a good thing rains where possible i've actually still got the will smith from men in black income which was not that classic <hes> mm-hmm or those burger king games backwards compatible. I guess we would they were backwards. Compatible with the original xbox just worked in both but they weren't on the next one though that sucks bring a new game pass. Probably that's probably the way if you were going to do it. That'd be then you burger king. You get like a week a game policy like a robber yeah. That's an impossible deal is with that is then d._w._i. From seattle nowadays lots of games require small repetitive tasks to get incrementally better also known as grinding. I was wondering what's the past tense of grind when used in this this context earlier today reflectively used grinded instead of ground and noticed that sounded more correct for the context though i can't explain why wouldn't in any other context what say you i'm one hundred percent. Not i ground around language. I ground out. I've said that before a few levels yeah that's only if you add out does it ground a few levels just sounds and so like what are you talking about but also like a grinded out granted. I gotta say like i had to grind out yeah. It's always <unk> out my ground or grind grind out or ground outweigh sound better. Why am i just having this realization. I had a friend back in the day who referred to it as raising no fancy too. It's like oh. I had to go around and raise for a while before he beat the boss. It sounds more commonly got into it <hes> raise. Some levels rundle grumbled. That's what it is gross. You should bring a change if you're going to do that. Well i mean i thought this was <unk> accepting workplace but suddenly back in those rules right about where is gone yeah can't grendel lincoln rundle so you can crank ron from western colorado just not on mixer like how but they make people fill out. The new form says i will not grind it probably number two one thing i will not impersonate ninja number two. I i will not grind it. Oh no fun there like right. Put away the headband. No never more like beam dot go to another website. Look great. Hey are you still in the <hes> the preview ring for xbox stuff. Probably i don't know i haven't turned on xbox i i did. I haven't playing an upcoming xbox one really that you pull that new dashboard fucking. I don't know no. I don't think so okay responsive. One doesn't doesn't yeah they say they're trying to make a faster. Real doesn't have tabs at the top anymore. I know because it's like that might be fast ring and i might be in slow ring or something like that because you know it's like mixer store. Yes community. Maybe one other thing to buttons on the front page. Okay you watch separately. They claim it's going to be faster. I really hope so. I feel like they've been saying about the experts one dashboard since it released ron from western colorado i i saw i fuck and got on twitter about this a little bit but i so i spent a lot of time watching q._v._c. weird hours. Oh yeah i saw digital garage holy shit man they were selling xbox one s.'s on there and the guy they had he was like i i've seen him since selling air pods and and all the other deals they xbox one was was reasonable because it was like official stuff and a copy of madden didn't or whatever that wasn't a reasonable though no because it was reasonable compared to we're going to sell you the latest apple air pods and charging dock that looks like dog shit and and little straps that go on the air pods to wrap around your ear because you're too dumb to wear them like it was just an three months of title like it was just the level of fuckin- game stop ass bundle bullshit bullshit that they were throwing on that stuff was amazing. The xbox watching people try to sell the xbox one s to q._v._c. to office. I didn't even see one. I'm trying to oh god. I think i found it. Okay here it is. I found footage of it so exciting because they're q._v._c. The put up a fifteen minute segment but that was an hour whole segment that are the same chopped up from the same segment. It sounded like they were basically reading from the the now practically because they because they were selling there's a streaming box. There were like cord cutting selling it as a cable box replace. You can just search for whatever tv show you want and then buy it right here and and you don't need cable that's weird and the like looking at the app store and all this other stuff and then eventually bottomed out into the two people talking about what you're going to youtube and watching kiss concerts on youtube and you do that on the xbox. It's the best console the durham you guys ok well they. We're describing it as this is the new generation this is the latest the s. yeah. That's not true. It's not even i mean there are fucking new things coming out next motherfucking year long. Tom let alone just the current product family right and like between that part of the pitch and they're like yeah. If you want your kids your grandkids you you get this. You tell them hey you can play the xbox as long as you want as long as you come over your kids. Your grandkids are gonna love you. Just they have a testimonial line. They don't show it for every autumn autumn they don't they don't take calls for every item but man i was sitting there hoping that number will that just sounds mean assembly just lying to these people people who code no yeah and it was it was really well. Frankly it called into question everything i see on q._v._c. now because if they're that misinformed out there and what are they know about t. Foul nonstick pans yup duck. What the fuck is tova know about. Perfume apparently swill yeah. I don't know if i can trust tove anymore. Then makes me sad just tova exactly article on. I'm sorry all right ron from western colorado. Oh this is an appropriate segue into mill last. Get money out of things to dollar awesome last episode brad mentioned hearing a game stop employees actually really my assistant manager and electric's boutique claim a third party controller would bric a nintendo sixty four this reminded me of the launch of uncharted four at my local game stop when the employees told everyone that they needed to buy the season pass to get the games ending this tactic worked and literally everyone in line also bought the season pass hass was the weirdest lie you have heard in a retail store and they say that launch who's uncharted for launch and then isn't aware that that it sounds crazy like if you're on top of it and you want to try and find i would assume you type of god that sounds enough games have done exactly that have they like why i can think of is yours. Rashes wrath like a principal is only three sixty the reboot straight up there real ending behind a two. Oh it's not unheard of sure but also yeah. It seems like a well whatever i guess if they're they're buying physical objects than maybe they would be like why would you why would you buy a season pass from a retail store at all and you you just go home and hit the button but i guess they're. They're buying discs anyway so maybe they were just really good sales. People you know move the problem. That's fucked looked up yeah. I can't really what other specifically like goes and someone like a gain in the u._k. Or something some someone been on that and trying to thank for me was like sixty four launch was like someone saying because they were out of the official controllers and trying to say like oh the third party. It's the exact same old in the exact same mold and being furious overhearing that i was there to buy controllers because we didn't have enough here for reviewing video games okay yeah. I didn't if i ever happened to me. I think i was always in a position to know better yeah and and if i heard it i didn't i wouldn't want to step in and be that guy. Yeah i get <hes> drew from roma louisville kentucky. What would you say if you were. Would you like step in and be like oh boy breath gonna win here. What's all this then. You know that sort of stuff. We're gonna to put you in the silent. The slammer that famous british term for jail trying to think of one right through from louisville kentucky yo isn't he wanted to ever gonna to make another double a seven game. Yeah okay cool jeff is so you've wrangled the rights. Okay yeah well. No please back my kickstarter. Can you pitch me on we'll. We'll get the rights game. <hes> okay james bond spy loves to fuck focusing on the fucking feel that a lot of games have been. You've looked the same charts yeah exactly exactly we feel that a lot of the games have really been too focused on like this. Watch shoots a laser and other dumb shit like that and like. I go to bulletproof vest now. This is is going to be just straight up fucking. Do i is it. <hes> had the progression like how do arrays. It's the grinding the grinding we're we're anticipating the grind to be really good and we're calling our product. <hes> james james bond 007 colon shaken and stirred so james bond 007 colin bond colon double o seven colon colon shaken and stirred and is an all caps the feels like a real leisure suit larry calendars title thank you yeah he's gonna play james bond larry great now <hes> voiced by voiced by john saint john rowe naturally the voice subdued nukem coming out of leisure suit larry's body but you'll be funding in a car. That's not it's not going to be an actual aston martin but you'll know here's another good segue shit matt from connecticut. I've made it the weekly habit of listening to the bom cast while working on my project car most weeks. It's a nine hundred seventy four a._m._c. emcee gremlin in medium green nice the perfect mix of ugly design and timeless classic design really my dream car this combined with seeing on bins twitter that ben is learning to park. My question is if the bomb cast crew has a dream car like thunderbird with t tops or a delorean or maybe something more modern like porsche or tesla. I'd say something that i don't have to modify the driver's seat to go far back enough so i fit in it is probably my dream car. Keep sharing will like a towncar. I feel like that's what's gonna be real long along. I really wanted to white jeep wrangler and then i wanted a paint like a brownish air on the front because they really liked avatar last air bender. I just want to name it opera. It's highly specific yeah. I almost bought a book. I was with ryan when he was buying his car after we after we sold the company in had like a little bit of money and both needed new cars mm-hmm. I went to the dealership with him and they had a g._t. Are there and the lady selling him. His camry. Camera camera was not having it when we asked her questions about the t._r. And it just so happened that i was in a position where i could have bought that car one time my life that i could have been like fuck you. I'll take this call right now to prove her wrong and i almost got roped into. It and i was like wait. No it's the fucking dumb what the fuck is wrong. I'm in the home in a few years by some cool graphics cards and steph exactly wanna mind. Bitcoins ones not no. I guess i don't know how to drive the anytime. I've been in the driving position of car. I was blindfolded yeah so you probably did about as good as you would with your eyes. Oh i don't know i didn't in crush carl. I think i kept hitting the break and go pedal at the same time and you don't want to do that right now because that makes the engines. I'm learning how to drive. I mean that's how how i wrecked. My first car is doing that and eventually if you car is powerful enough to overpower the breaks. The tires were just spin. That's a lot of fun okay so it was kind of a halfway there even what you were doing there. I thought it was natural to just put one foot on the gas and one foot on the brake and everyone's shaking their head violently. Yeah i know that's not what you do grown up around auto repair one of the things that they'll look for when the brakes on a car get worn out unnaturally quickly is if the very corner like the bottom left corner of the brain one because it means someone's resting their foot on the pedal when they're not meeting to break and they're always applying the brakes a little bit and that's okay. Where am i meant to put my foot on the ground. They have a little thing off to the side a little rubber area near where the parking brake might be that you can just kind of set your foot there. Do cars fucked grateful much work. I'm trying to learn the ships. Can you even get a manual transmission of the like mid to high in civics. I think only i drove. I drove a five speed civic back when i drove which has been almost ten years and i think forgotten how to drive at this point now. Does that happen sure sure. I mean well. It's like it's like riding a bike this. This is going to so while on subject. This is gonna sound like some total bullshit but i genuinely think i am <hes> okay at driving because of driving video games and it's not like it's not the same thing. It's not like control. It doesn't control at all similar but like being able to just like turn works. There's some things that you just pick up so i really don't think i'm coming in one hundred percent cold but learning how to drive as an adult where where you're cognizant cognizant of everything that can go wrong and the cost of everything is so much more terrifying it and not fucked up all the time a ah god. It's terrifying yeah. Is it any good reason why they conduct replaces. Damn well with like a game pad. I think that's become more and more or doable kind of drive by wire type stuff as opposed to it used to be like all of it was literally connected okay and they would have like power steering. They would make it easier for you to turn but it was still all just like it was a rack and pinion. I think i forget what they call it but it was like like literally all connected to the axle and all all that stuff basically computers now right now pretty much just put a free sixty patois hell yeah you probably could flights in some cases. You do something like that racing the wheel talking. How steel battalion controller yeah is there an object about what i i always wanted steering wheel. Go in the direction of fucking like nightrider or the spy hunter arcade wheel where it hey our death grips and you turn that could have triggers that don't make the fucking like keychain machine gun noise and you pull it looked like the weird gamecube thing from the car uh dr then until then no take got automobile industry sure l. to you. I have to say one lesson ahead of you. I have to imagine at this point. You cannot get a car without a bunch of weird computer. She did in it right. I don't know i mentioned that they're probably going to be based. Model cars and i'm sure you you dig deep enough. You're gonna find some make and model that is still like manual fucking locks right. I don't know let's see not a push button start but you're not having to get your car firmware firmware update and doria no not there yet but there's a there's a micro u._s. There's a micro s._d. Card with map data in my car. They want you to go to the dealer to update instead. It's downloading on the internet which real stupid but they i guess they want to charge you for that shit's homebrew scene for his in 'cause it's i think i think it's actually you're going to rent your car. So there's a <hes> fucking love that there is a raspberry pi based auto that people are there's an open that like for people who want that kind of like android or like car play but that's just for the entertainment options. It's not necessarily plex in the car plex. I have i have played episodes of dragon ball z the author of a plex server on my phone while driving my car to come in and record a podcast about track features beautiful. This is happening so that the future is now a couple of emails matt for minnesota recently. I stopped at a convenience store and in the rotating carousel of heated lunch stuff's. I spotted something new. A waffle folded over chicken strips with mystery. Sauce later discovered to be bacon blue cheese dressing about. I'm i'm in at sunshine. Try it. I like blue cheese. A quick scan through the laminated price sheet duct tape the door or showed two prizes to forty nine for a waffle taco four ninety nine for a waffle sandwich intrigued. I presented my newfound tree to the checkout counter where i was unceremoniously charged four ninety nine for a sandwich i asked if this was indeed a sandwich instead of taco and was crudely reassured that if it came from the hot case it's a sandwich my question to you. Where do you draw the line between the sandwiches. Eh taco oh god is that the vessel for the whole product such as tortilla bread slices and waffle or the method of containment wrapped stacked or folded or do the contents to find the food category brad. This is a whole can of worms now looking for a quick gut reaction action if the outer layer is one piece wrapped in a u shape guy. That's a talk a four subway sub though because they take the loaf they slice it three in open it up. Put the stuff in enclosed by the time. I'm picking it up. It's gotten wet enough. That bread is separated an in-depth proper. Sam become a fan. I'm going to say you need even structural integrity the whole way around around in that case the breads slice on the bottom is very close to ripping apart. You're sending yourself up in the series of rules that we could find loopholes for a hotdog behave behave the same way as a subway sub. What if the brady's stay on pluto got excluded from from the list of planets you get rules. I feel unqualified to answer this okay so i put him back in no idea they would like nantucket rules again pluto's getting their fuck you absorb is not parallel to the ecliptic plane damn if you put a piece of bread onto the two polar opposite sides of the planet is that a sandwich sure wow man is a case of the sandwich talking about an earth grilled cheese. No it's a pita so you can't have a pupil sandwich. If you put these around peter i guess you could then. What's the panini great song. You're you're right. I should've asked this question. It is a flat bread sandwich. Tila sandwich depend if it's two pieces or one right well like vietnamese sandwich is vietnamese but then like it's cut almost so they're like similar subway sandwich a sandwich sure. Let's just get the right. No that's unfolded taco. Vietnamese sandwich thought about this a few years ago guys. No there's back. When this was the only conversation you can have on the internet that it was pretty wild out there. These days instead of bounties boy and there sure are a lot of weird boy. It sure your dad there it was it was a nicer well. It wasn't even necessarily a nicer time. There were just unless we just thought that was the clips of conversation at the time. This was the listening with some novel back then you can have conversations pictures of your food people people and they wouldn't go now. They did with my well. You're from all right. Speaking of dredging up old arguments posting pictures take brown sauce noodles brown soil. I should've put some sauce over fries. Got him. I'm hi. I'm your guest country steve montreal as walking down a normally quiet street near my office. When i noticed two guys talking up ahead there was an older man unloading something from his trunk and a younger man with a backpack. I have my headphones in so i couldn't hear what they were saying. My initial read was that they knew each other and we're catching up as i got closer. I realized that the energy was actually much more hostile. I took one headphone often heard these guys talking some pretty pretty serious. Shit backpack guy swung his bag around unzipped a small compartment and produced brass knuckles. My brain wasn't catching up to the action fast enough enough so i just kept walking toward them. As i was passing the older man he region to his truck and pulled out a mother. Effing machete was four feet away from this guy. I found muscles in my legs that i didn't know i had and started jetting as i passed the brass knuckles guy saw him throwing uppercuts at the air and telling the old man to try him i can look back and when i did i saw the older man with both hands in the air machete pointed toward the heavens brass knuckles guy said something to the effect of you're not worth the trouble turned around and started heading towards me. I was freaked out so i decided to make a beeline for my office. Brass knuckles guy trail royal behind me for three blocks shadow boxing with brass knuckles on. We've all been there. I've had some time to reflect on the experience and this is what i've concluded. Did one machete definitely beats brass. Knuckles agreed to the machete is the unholy union of the knife end the best the perfect perfect organism like a sword imagine a sword that had like a really. Do you ever watch russian kaci yeah yeah. This guy knows that guy. That character was no and that's you know scary. No he was like the leader of the gang yeah cool trenchcoat. I'm not convinced machetes the beer window here because i feel like you have to pair knife. Versus machete machete probably wins because it's a big knife. There's a speed factor swinging a machete versus getting brass now if you're like we're this is away and we just start a fight to win. If the machete doesn't beat the night for the bat then it's has to be both of them to be the king of them. Yeah i think it does. Do you think it'd be either. I think i think that is a trash on so in a way husband view on board of the bat fuck f._a._m. I've i've always been i've always leaned towards. The bat all comes down to personal style. It all comes down to which do you think you will handle better. It all comes down to whether or not you have courage and if you're a courageous honest person know any of those that because you know that i know because it all comes down to your friend and yourself right yeah. I can't do shit with a knife did you how house i'm telling you there there is here's a guild down. The skill ceiling on the bad is higher than you think because you've gotta take range into consideration ugo sake the speed with which you're swinging the bat and also things that they're fucking the flag with a nice all be in their freeze before you can brush what it is. It is fucking. It is dude for final title fight that holds the knife like this and runs at you. The only bum rushed is your bum rushing to the ground when i hit that motherfucking bat about my bum on the air also does that mean into the gulf. There's a very real possibility that like if you hit someone with a bat maybe get him on the shoulder and you pray the fallen adrenalin up to the point where they're coming in with a knife i t decorate tells the story of how he got stabbed by a a p._c._p. Didn't realize it for an hour and a half. You're saying the adrenaline different side of the bat you you shut your shot with a knife. You keep going yeah. You've shot your on the other person has closed the gap swing a bat back and forth but then dementia inside the the tight end of that arc. I am stabbing the shit out of you and you were hitting me with the the week small end of that bat and your head and then you just like move your body audie away in the knife comes out you don't even have certainly things could happen like that but also i think that the likelihood of you landing a completely debilitating shot with a bat and not just like a glancing blow that maybe shatters shoulder or whatever but keeps a person's still coming at you. I think that that's where that's where the breakdown is. How are you running with the knife. I am probably hand in running one hand in front of me this and then the night like i'm holding to catania essentially swing at this arm. I've got this doing god touch it hit yeah. I'll second that on her right. In this area. I can cut my entire body of this. That arm is disarmed. Kinda every ultimate shield. This forearms getting broken yes but this arm still has magic in it as has it sticking you over and over. I'll tell you i got a lot of cardboard with a butterfly knife over the last couple of weeks here now because i lost my box cutter and i had a lot of time to use a knife and i gotta tell korea knives our fucked up it will fit the butterfly knife. I maybe important jan. Can you break the stalemate would join keep it. A mystery with the new question posed i'd go with brass knuckles war right now because the box so i know how to throw a punch amplified ride with metal on my fists breakthrough machete punch. The other here comes in okay. We're combining your y'all's argument with the extra arm acting as a shield now. I'm just using my other fist as a shield pet like as it's coming yeah and then they get shorty shop and then you punch them exa- i see it i get it unless it's like danny trae ho with the machete and then instead lose this is hoping is named after two more quick emails airplanes pollen from new york. I grew up in rockaway beach right near j._f._k. Airport in queens these supersonic concorde jet you guys talked about last week would fly out of that airport. Several times a day and break the sound barrier right over our little peninsula windows would break car alarms go off. Dogs would lose their minds. It was definitely early and experience. It eventually became enough of a concern that the city sent people to our schools to test our hearing to make sure it wasn't doing any damage. They should figure that out our beforehand sorry go. I was quite young and overhaul what the verdict was but the flights did eventually stop a bummer for six year old who thought it was objectively awesome to watch those planes meanwhile sitting on the beach. How much cricket was it code then. I didn't look at the time it was like less. I think nambi skelly last night i would lie that was taken. Was it five hours from new york to throw or something probably around six. I think yeah yeah it was. Maybe five going back with something like that. It's typically around five six seven to the east coast because it's about that for boston nine hours to seattle and like ten in ten and a half to l._a. San francisco okay. I could find out right now but i've been getting really good sleeping on flights. He's pasta years configured. It's it's a process. I noise cancelling headphones. I was like my friends seem fine. It's okay but airplanes are the perfect use case for them because they get out hello homes <hes> so those were be held but then just listening to music and i had like i would always start with the same album so thing and then rawson yeah yeah sure ida i like my ipod nanos or whatever and it always at the same songwriter and i i was using that for a while and that actually yeah i just don't sleep the day before the fights usually so l. e. that ends up being a bad sleep but why can play with where i'm at right now. I could probably sleep anywhere where i was just like. I can never sleep on a plane but i do you could put me on the roof of a moving car and they'd be like cool fucked. Everything's cool. Oh yeah this is the original concord can do to london in three and a half hours. It's pretty good. <hes> round trip tickets gets in the nineties where eight thousand dollars that's not so good. Yeah i think there are there are designs for like like jets or whatever since then that are even faster yeah but yeah my understanding is the sonic booms were pissing people off so much that they just couldn't keep doing it. Just kept me high speed rail's airplane. Yeah i like a train. The paris is like a really chill experience. I'm london kill to take a train to yeah so good. Can you do that and i am not a day and a half or any time standpoint. It's strange always going to be long. I would wake japan the japan during tax our like actually saying yeah all depends. Let me find the last email here. It is john from scotland speaking of bad flights. I want flew from glasgow to the scottish island <hes> of isla in the middle of a storm. That's less than a forty five minute flight but was delayed by several hours due to an issue with the plane. The backup plane only sat twenty people and worked by propeller. We sat down of the pilot came on by behind us and shut the door. He was the only staff member on board and his safety briefing was put your your seat belts on. It will be hell of a flight. I'll do my best row okay. He proceeded to leave the cockpit door. Open quote in case. Anyone needed me because of the storm. We had to fly low enough that it was more like being on top of a tall building once over water. The weather got worse because you could see out the cockpit pitt as well. Everyone could see how much the plane was swaying side to side and how much the pilot was having to struggle to keep control at one point when the island was in view gust of wind took us almost completely off course and i legitimately thought we were going to crash we only straightened to land approximately ten to fifteen seconds before hitting the ground approaching. The runway sideways weighs upon landing staff at the airports sprinted out to the <unk> to place large wedges around our plane presumably so we weren't blown away at this point. The pilot turned around the i said to be happy i got you here in one piece then walked off the plane before anyone else wasn't being do not fly to small islands in store. Doesn't that's good advice. Vice yeah sounds terrifying. They'll buy some bad turbulence. Can <hes> really get me like that feeling when it feels like the plane's just dropped like yeah ten feet and i had a particularly bad on when i was going to l._a. Sometime and it felt like it went. I already feel something it was. Apparently we had tablets in that fifi allen hall for that was the first time i had to noise canceling heavens. I slept through all of it. Well yeah. I woke up mid turbulence once and that's it was like it was a weird mix of turbulence. It's happening as as waking up and like some kind of medical emergency happening at the same time and it was just like a bad thing. The way up to their flights are kind of terrifying yeah. I always say that planes. Don't crash from turbulence put showed hard to keep that in sometimes sometimes <hes> right. That's his free meals on kasa giant bomb dot com. Thanks to everyone who wrote in jeff. How's it feel to be back good weird. If everything feels really surreal you know lee alec alec. They'll like i said the last week's feel like in some ways. It was like a maybe a week and in some cases it was like two years or something. This bizarre are bizarre time dilation. I guess just because you know like for you know having a newborn born at home now it's like that kid needs to be fed. Every two hours and there are a lot of diapers to change and all this other stuff. It's just a lot to do around the clock and so the days get weird because you don't sleep and this year it's three in the morning and now i'm on this new schedule here at least for a little bit here where around waking up at four am <hes> and yeah it's all it's all pretty crazy <hes> but i'll totally were that s pretty awesome yeah we we had a kid. It's awesome a i don't know how to describe it without getting into just like the whole pregnancy and all the other stuff that happened it will say that after we talk about some of that stuff sure a <hes> we just we just adopted a dog so i feel like i totally get same level sour dough starter so yeah shit man. Yeah yeah absolutely well congratulations. Thanks we nursed back to health. We lost our guests. In the in the late stages of pregnancy rule of of like focusing on a lot of all of that stuff didn't cause ah the vikings did not get the attention deserved and i- legit feel a little own the cats that are not getting the same level of attention they're used to but i feel terrible terrible cuneo spikers because i react into that like hey what's up. You have been pet today. Yeah definitely flint. We have a one year old cat. He's like very much like climbing up on my leg now and looking at me going. Hey hang out a ah you changed man used to be cool and and the the younger cat more than the older one definitely like getting close to this baby like like no i wanna i wanna smell this baby. Talk with this. What's up with this thing sniff around twenty foot. There was definitely like an element of like the cats felt like they were laying down and in an outward facing protective manner was kind of cool air like all right. Let's keep this baby alive right because holy oh shit yeah but but also yeah they get more comfortable with it with the whole concept. There's there's definitely more of a i'm. I'm gonna put my face close to this baby's head and one of these days. I'm gonna my claws are very sharp and something bad's going to happen. And what are you going to do about it like oh fuck doc. It's a scary thing that i've made some peace with. It's like eventually eventually. My child will be hurt by one of these cats in some way and and i have to keep the cats. I have to do whatever i can to make sure that my wife does not throw the cats into the street sh- give them give them a fingernail trim. I know we've been helps. The we've been trimmed affirmative down for mittens yeah yes they the the claws grow very quickly. It's murderous the scars to show it but yeah. It's <hes> it's been awesome. It was a it's a real roller coaster the whole process from us finding out that my wife is pregnant to the suddenly two weeks early turning to are you insane. Fucking go that friday so meeting isn't gonna it's. It's been in fucking wild time so maybe we'll get some of that and congratulations. You've got questions yeah bomb after an expert in the field. Oh okay does that count for the money thing is that that's that was the same. You have to go to jail. Finish the there's no fine. We'll do questions about fatherhood or anything else. Yeah tuned for this after show exact contact the experts. I've been at this for almost like a little over six weeks up. Throw everything there is to know. What else is there to know contain covered at this point in here cool all right well. Thanks everybody for listening back to form here to some degree. I guess that means we'll be able to do another order these extra week yeah back right yeah for sure. I've got this guy alright. Thanks everybody listening. See then by yeah yeah.