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"james wiseman" Discussed on Dunc'd On Basketball Podcast
"Couchbase. Moco Cap Space for twenty percent off roane dot com slash cap space and get that cap space code again. Let them know you came from us. Offensively mixed bag. I would say I think I like his upside defensively much more than offense. We'll talk a little bit about exactly what that is when we get to our final thoughts but. I don't think that he's going to be a guy that you're going to run offense through in the NBA to agree with that wholeheartedly. I think that we haven't seen much his hand off game or some of the stuff like Bam bio does but if you think about the other ways that big can get usage they can shoot threes. They can have a post up game they. Can you know offense? Rebound I think. Offensive rebound obviously do but it. The I didn't love his feel close to the basket. You know obviously if you can dunk it. That's not a problem but he also like this was a criticism my head of eight and going back to when he was hillcrest that I thought Aden was too comfortable shooting. Jump shots and Wiseman he it's. It's kind of like that. Was his instincts. Certain services Really Awkward Turn Shot that. He threw a couple times a dislike. Why why would you decide to try to do that? In the worst one of those the single worst piece of film that I saw Wiseman from his three games in college was this play towards the end of the Oregon. Game I saw it in the compressed footage not drama. It was like a minute. Seventeen left there by seven down by Fedex up a step back jumper and gets blocked by. Oh no there was worse than that so he he he. I think we're maybe thinking they play. It wasn't a block. It was a travel. He went up for the shot. Oh Yeah and then realized I'm not going to get it off and then travelled like creature got a handout. I mean the NBA would've been called a jump ball. Yeah I guess that's true but it was. It was just like the process was terrible. The execution was terrible. All of it was really bad. It was like Oh God but the young the positive with his offenses what. We'll let me talk about that. That whole jump shot things more before we change the subject. Definitely some tunnel vision. Yes and he was especially that Oregon gain. They're playing zone. They're switching their front. He did not get a ton of touches but when he did. I mean there's still thought. They always drill into big band. Says all right you got to be aggressive and be aggressive to me? Mean doesn't necessarily have to mean you shoot the ball every time you touch it. And when he got it in the mid range he was trying to attack off the dribble which he did a little bit at the high school level. But that's high school I didn't I thought his forays against better. Competition did not look particularly good. I don't think he's going to be your face. The basket cross guys up kind of a lot of a lot of big that. Frankly now you know if we're talking about. Hey they double team the pick and roll he catches it at the three point line on the move. Can he do a a euro step or make a move? Yeah I think so. But his passing feel I thought was very limited when he did get it in the post. He was so excited that he got in the Post. He would just go into his moved. There's one play where they entered the ball to him. He's basically like facing a guy wide open in front of him for a corner three and he just goes into his move and does like a tough fatal which I actually made but yeah. It's a lot of the left. The Scott this looping lefthanded shot that he kinda releases from behind his head which makes it difficult to block but he loves like taking a step back to his right which I mean. That's just not going to be a good shot for him in most situations From to Really likes the turn and face. We didn't really see any of catching the ball. Fifteen feet away from the basket and backing down either drawing help and making a play or just putting his guy in the goal you know the that level of physicality was missing. He was a little more physical. And I guess that I'll talk more about the the rest of that. But his mid-range jumper is like solid. And you know he shows good mobility like the footwork on that step back. It's not what you want but I mean the fact that he can do it. I guess means something good That he might be able to learn some other moves to do you. Think Danny with that jump shot you know. Certainly I think he's not taking great shots. These long twos. That's not what he should be making a living on. It's going to have to get rid of that but Do you think he can stretch his jump shot out to NBA three. I think it's possible but not probable. I mean the the form isn't terrible. I mean I could imagine being a Maurito pop. Three point shooter. Not a you know and that's really all you would ever for it. You're not going to. He's not going to be like initiating. Just do a pull up. That's going to be anything so I don't he's eighteen. It's entirely possible that he gets there. But it's not I remember you to go into the hoop summit for years like you. I've done when I I so I wasn't at the summit. The wiseman was at but when I when I watched him watched that jump shot. I wasn't it didn't look as projectable to me as some other guys who haven't been able to make that jump so I'm not gonNa say I mean I certainly put him below the level of whereas say a miles turner where he was at this point in time. Now I mean I give them a decent shot at being able to hit some standstill threes at thirty four. Thirty five percents. Something like that. Now are you talking to be sort of like what Dwayne deadman was two years ago? Yeah yeah so I better as a roll man. That had pop guy though. Yeah I think that's right. So and he looks relatively comfortable at the free. Throw line in the numbers on that. Just not really sizable enough to know you. Even the the limited a number of that I have in front of me or were about sixty percent but that that wasn't a ton of games only ten games I think his physicality was okay. Like posting up deep in the Lane. Getting lobs trying to get position. I thought that was all right. I did I am a little worried about his hands so I don't think his hands or museum they they turn the ball over so many times trying to lob it into and there's place we like. Oh maybe I can catch this against these smaller guys. And sometimes the passage admittedly weren't great analogy you dunk. It was just like what happened. I couldn't figure out I could figure out. It seemed like it was within his catch radius. Someone who got thrown a lot of alley oops that were outside of bycatch radius and we're bad passes and people just assumed I was going to go get him. I I will defend on that a lot. You Short dudes always think that like an alley oop is like super easy but it can't be a little more difficult to find him. I'll say I'll say but you know what you're talking about might late my favorite play that wiseman had offensively was one so he grabbed the offensive. Rebound I think this was in the game and he he grabbed offensive rebound passed it out then worked his way back into position for as the Guard. Dribbled and gotTa love and it was like okay. You did a couple of different things in the same play and got worked his way back in because he's bigger stronger than everybody else he was able to be. Something happened just like okay. That's something good to do for for a big. I think being low usage for a center. I think it someway. Obviously you'd love to have somebody who's scalable needed the ged behind those truly elite offensive centers. Even though some of them get caught doing a little bit too much that's been one of my criticisms of Embiid at times but there is if if he could be really really good defensively having somebody who only does a couple of things and eventually worked hard enough to do those things pretty well. You know. That's not a problem. They're they're they're successful in the league that followed that general template few other notes on him. I mean he's got like a little bit of a jump. Hook turnaround jumper in addition to those face up inside pivots and step back. You know looked okay but I it's your I don't think he's good. Be Lamarcus. Aldridge style turnaround jump shooter. I don't think he's going to have that level of touch. That's probably not going to say. There's a possibility that it could but you're not wowed by him as a shooter. He's warning developing shooter. But you never. I'm there have been players. Who have developed it in that vein but a more likely than not that. He doesn't his finishing around the rim. When it's not a dunk is not unbelievable. He's very left handed. He will do some stuff with the right every once in a while. But it's more off of one foot when he's Kinda more open what he really needs it when he's trying to power up around the basket he won't really go up with the right hand at all like that. Very short range right handed. Hook floater off the glass from inside the lane. You know. He doesn't really seem to have that shot and at the hoops on it. I think he was getting bumped off of his Johnson. He's trying to power up inside off a rebounds or catching passes when he couldn't go straight up for a dunk I since he's gotten stronger. We didn't see that as much in the limited film but he was playing some patsies as well. A lot of the way And then again his hands. I think our average I think he's not like a great hands guy. He's not going to on the role. You know you throw it behind. He's not gonNA catch a laid and he's not gonNA have those sticky hands if you throw him a kind of a contested pass when he's fronted and I think he overall there's he's fluid for his size in terms of his movement but I don't think he's smooth in just like from basketball skill standpoint to where he's putting multiple moves together when he's catching on the movies prone to a travel every once in a while that kind of thing. Yeah I would agree with that. I was very impressed with his offensive rebounding. I thought that he was trying to rebound out of his area. That Y- crashed the glass. He got some tip. Dunk had a pretty good knows the offense who asked me. We're not talking Andre Drummond level here but I think you'll have above a ten percent offensive. Rebound rate would be my guess. Yes and especially if he can go after the glass and this is where the motor does matter if you can get on the glass and not sabotage transition defense then coaches are. What more comfortable letting you actually do that. Even though offense rebounding is being de emphasized in the modern NBA yeah and then transition running the floor. I think he can be an asset at times. If he is a on the break he can move pretty quickly. I mean he's not just sprinting and beating his man down the forty can get involved there and he he had a really nice Lefty Dunk on a situation where he did straight up just beat his man down the floor a night those sorts of plays we'll be with MBA spacing and passing could be awesome. His passing I mentioned was the left something to be desired. There's a few instances from like the McDonald's all American game practice where he was able to throw a lob into the post. But what's really missing is the ability to go from scoring mode to passing mode. I think if he's just gotta handling it outside and he's in passing mode than maybe you can make some decent reads. You're and we'll see we haven't we didn't see much of him in the D. H. O. Game that wasn't what Memphis largely was trying to do. Okay another quick break here and then we will finish up a with our overall assessment of James Wadsworth so I could see wiseman as an above average offense of center if it breaks right for him. What would you say that that's how you would see it? It's possible I mean I don't think he can reach the elite level but above every possible. How would you compare offensively to deandre? Eight eight tools a lot more. I thought he had way better touch way. Better feel on his jump shot mechanics more and Aidan played with more assertiveness to me other than the the offense boards. Maybe that.
Is Duke Done? A Season of NCAA Basketball Surprises
"Myron. I think the last time we spoke. I was at Cameron Indoor Stadium asking You what you thought about Zion Williamson. That was the last time and now Zion's gone and things haven't been as good for college basketball since he left. Myron Medcalf is a senior college basketball reporter for ESPN. Men's college basketball has been having a pretty weird season. Can you explain to us sort of the state of things and why some of the usually omnipresent contenders your dukes your? Unc's Kentucky aren't even in the top five while it's a meeting in a year like this anybody who tells you that they know exactly what's going to happen in March. They're lying because there was no one no expert. That understands kind of what's happened so far. It's just been a wild year but I think you can look at some of the things that transpired Really at the start of the season. I think the James Wiseman suspension by the answer. Aa For twelve games after being ruled ineligible. You have a Memphis team that I think had a chance to be much better if he sticks around. Lamelo ball who if he follows the traditional track and goes to a UCLA USC that changes the spotlight on those programs as well But instead you have a lot of the blue blood teams that don't have the lottery level talent that they had a year ago. Duke is still a top ten level team but they don't have anyone close To a Zaylon you'd have a team like Gonzaga that had to lottery picks last year. They got some good players. Nothing like that so the the powerhouse teams are just really good team which has closed the gap so now a San Diego State with the Malachi Flint and against double team Malachi for three huge three by malachite lend. That's a really good team. Competing for number one see the Dayton with an ob top suddenly was one of the best teams in America. And I think it's because you just don't have the same concentration of talent we're accustomed to seeing with your Kentucky's in Dukes. Then you'RE K. Use Marin what is it like covering a season like this where there are really clear favorites and no one seems to have any idea. What's going on this year? You just don't really know who to chase like. You don't know who to say okay. That's the team to watch. Because they're really good. It just feels like a pretty fragile college basketball scene which is great for the tournament for everything. We didn't have in college basketball this year in terms of no established kind of powerhouse team. I think we're going to see the benefits of it. Come into double A. Tournament. Time when we could have one of the craziest craziest. March madness is we've ever had so. Let's talk about Duke. Quit even when dukes not great? We're still going to talk about Dick. Because it's really interesting. Myron how much struggled on Saturday they lost to Virginia Virginia wins. That look the three point line. Just couldn't connect before that game. They were ranked seventh. But I imagine they could go down even further now right. Yeah I mean this is a team that I think will will fall in the rankings. Duke has run into some teams who put on their Superman capes in the last couple of games. And that's change things you have. Nc State which made sixty one percent of its threes and that loss A week ago wake forest mixed fifty four percent of its threes. These things those teams had done before they phase Duke and Virginia really as just a team on the rise So I think duke got caught in kind of a weird gauntlet there but trae Jones has been sort of their closer whereas a year ago you could go to RJ bear. You could go to Cam Reddish you could go on. And now they're a bit more one dimensional They're much closer to what you see. Maybe in a typical season where they're right there with Louisville and Florida state and Virginia and the other teams at the top of the ACC. But they don't have a guy who's GonNa carry them to the top of the League and just help them separate. That's just not enough talent in college basketball for really any team to do that. But especially in the league like the Agency. So you're in Kansas right now in Kansas. The number one team. You were there to watch them. Play Kansas State and it was a right because these two teams Fighting literally fighting back in January Shit and now the benches inc just unnecessary. That's not good. This is Paul. This is bad this is but on Saturday night myron. They shook hands before the tip off in. Kansas came away with the victory. What did you make of the number team in their performance? Well I I'm just glad nobody fought again because that that would have been bad Glad to have that moment before the game I will say. I've never been to a regular basketball game outside of the NCAA tournament that had as much security as that game. Had I mean they were everywhere about? I'm glad there was an incident. I I think Kansas is sort of the perfect team in a year like this. Do they have a lottery pick? No but they've got this really balanced group of guys who are pretty good offensively. They've been pretty efficient team and they got two guys who win they're together. They're hard to stop. It's Dotson In Gaza Buki who when they're on the floor together. Kansas made about sixty percent of his shots inside the art. Their opponents have made about forty one percent of their shots inside the three point line. That's the story right there when those two guys are together. Kansas is certainly the best team in America. But you also look at them and go. Are they one bad night from Abu? Koa from struggling. He was hurt part of the game on Saturday against the bad Kansas state team boss feeds it in bounced past as a group. Six to shoot you back down spits travels this is the shot ultimately but he rolled his ankle. Oh this is good has approved. He is clutching his right foot so Kansas is good. But like a lot of teams there. One bad moment badge stretch away from being right there with everybody else. Well now. It seems like Kansas is going to run away with the big twelve after Baylor who was ranked number two going into the weekend got upset by. Tcu How bad was this for Baylor? It's always interesting right. Like Baylor won every game but one for like two months straight and now all of a sudden last week I think a lot of people are panicking and that happens to a team. Like Baylor which doesn't have the brand recognition of Duke or Kentucky or a Kansas. So in hard times. I think we may be overemphasized Some of their struggles. I think you obviously don't want to continue losing and losing to a team like Tcu is not good For them but this is a team that again played a tissue team that did things that they haven't done in the past made forty five percent of the threes on Saturday against Baylor. They made thirty three percent of their shots from three point. Line before that so that can be more of an anomaly. I think Baylor overall though is one of the best defensive teams in America made the best defensive team not named Kansas. So that's GONNA keep them in every game that they play well one team. That's right up there with Kansas and Baylor is Gonzaga perennial contenders They did lose to. Byu about a week ago but they're still considered favorites to win the WCTC. How good is this Gonzaga team? I think they're really really good me now like I think they're amazing. I just think this is a year where because everyone has been sort of even you get one loss and all of a sudden. Gonzaga gets the whole. You haven't played anybody. And why are you losing you know in the West Coast Conference and I think that's unfair? Byu was a really good team like Byu's go into selection Sunday with maybe a five or six seed. Maybe even better so. There's nothing wrong with losing a road game in that environment to a good team. They have the number one offense in America a flea Petra. Sav is one of the best young players Indian tire country. We would know what mark few the head coach can do. And they've got two losses all year. I think that is one of the best teams in America and I think will prove it wants double a. Tournament starts so most of the rankings have some combination of Kansas Baylor in Gonzaga in the top. Three we'll see how this weekend changes that but after that myron gets pretty interesting. I'm you've got Dayton San Diego state. Did you see that coming up before the season began out like I wish I could lie and say I did? I wish I could be that dude. It was like yeah. I called San Diego State back in October in Dayton. But I didn't I mean like ob top and a Dayton is suddenly this lottery pig. And I don't think anybody saw that Common Dayton on Friday against Davidson Mia. Think about this number. They may ninety six percent of their shots inside the three point. Line Ninety six percent like I don't care if you're playing a high school junior Varsity Team. That's really difficult to do in Dayton. Did that and not only did they do it. They've been doing it Throughout the season just really inefficient offensive team in San Diego State. A team that lost its first game about a week and a half ago. The they've been role as well in their line of people who will say San Diego State doesn't play the competition that the other top teams have faced in college basketball. That's not true. They beat the. Byu Team that just beacons Aga- they beat Creighton. Which I think is the surprise of college basketball naked win at all by thirty one points and they beat Iowa another solid team another Aa tournament team by ten points so the best teams that were thrown at San Diego State. They won those games now. They did lose the UNLV Week ago but beyond that there have been a really really good team and I think in a year like this again. You're not going to run into a team with two lottery. Picks it feels like they can make Iran as well both San Diego state ending
Speculations increases that Cole Anthony might not play again in college
"So there's growing speculation that Kohl Anthony will not play at North Carolina again. Norrland not sure if you saw it. But here's what our friend and former colleague Sabatini wrote for the athletic earlier this week about Injured lottery picks is co Anthony. lamelo ball in Hampton after spending time in Las Vegas around dozens of NBA people sambo quote the feeling among NBA evaluators. Waiters is that injured guards. Coal Anthony Lamelo ball and RJ. Hampton aren't going to play the rest of the season. It's worth stressing that no final decisions have been made by those players. I and thus it's possible. They will still play scouts and executive. Don't know that Anthony won't suit up again for North Carolina or that Bala Hampton won't play again in the NBA. I'll rather it's. They're working expectation that they're not going to get to see them again. Given their contextual situations the using logic because North Carolina's team around Anthony has struggled with no uh-huh floor spacing and a cluttered lane around him every time he drives into the pain. NBA executives believe that does around. Anthony will stress to him that it's not worth returning that will be especially true if North Carolina loses a lot of games in his absence against a week schedule and this takes itself out of the tournament. Picture norlander do you. I think we've seen coal anthony for the final time in North Carolina uniform. I'll be direct and I'll say no but I had this thought think I expressed only previous podcast if UNC goes on to have significant issues in the ACC and can't even keep its head above water. Call Anthony Projects even with this injury. I won't say universally but a top five pick is completely mm within reality if he does not play again and it would not stunned me. It'd be it'd be a major development element in that you would have in the same season for what I have to believe. Is the first time ever in college. Basketball Ascot Ball to top five level picks in college for eligibility injury. Whatever opting to bail on their college careers to not return and pursue a pro opportunity trinity? which is the which is the? It's like the college bowl. College players sitting out the Bulls taken to to the sixth degree. Basically where it's one thing where if you've been a junior senior in college football you're playing some forgettable bowl on December twenty ninth ninth New Year's Eve or whatever and you're just like I'm Gonna I'm GonNa pack it in here. I'M NOT GONNA chance injury if I think I'm going to be first second or third round pick. It's completely understandable. Aw I would endorse any player that wants to do that. Frankly it's a whole nother level if you are a coal Anthony Type James Wiseman type and you you decide. I'm just GONNA shut it down altogether and simply not returned to competition and GonNa take the stock where I have it right now and hope that my April and May workouts are going to Either steady me or boost me to to a certain spot in the draft so I won't be stunned if it happens. I'm going to say that will not happen. Only because because he's a truly like fierce competitor. I think that he will be better. He'll we'll be back in time to still want to give it a go out that this is GonNa sit well with him having his career kind of sputter out the way that it has. So Oh he's he's nine games deep into a career. I think he'll be back. He'll be playing for Carolina this season and long-term projection is this and we can do a offer. Type flashback if we need to but I'll say that he'll return and one of the most compelling storylines in college basketball when he does return will be if he can be healthy enough and good enough to get an UNC into the tournament. I would lean that way as well. I do think there's two things that would make him less likely to to return or unlikely to return one would be if you just not healthy enough. And if he's not healthy enough. You shouldn't return. That's like you know like this. and He is worth millions of dollars and playing playing at anything. Less than one hundred percent would be foolish. So if he's not healthy enough to return then he won't return shouldn't return anybody trying to criticize him for that would be It'd be misguided criticism the other thing that I think could play a role as you mentioned ballgames for football players. Will you know they don't these football players. They don't sit the College Football playoff. They sit out the cotton bowl and they sit out the Birmingham Bowl and they sit out the liberty bowl but they don't sit out the the games that actually mean something something and so if you want to you know. Make perhaps apples to oranges comparison but still something similar still fruit to fruit I. If coin returns in North Carolina has just lost so much before. He's able to come back that he would be coming back not to try to get North Carolina to the tournament the try to get them to the nit like we're just crystal clear you're not. You're not taking this team to the tournament. At that point. You could go if I'm not playing playing for any. I'm not playing for a trip to the tournament. What am I playing for? Like if you're in Alabama running back and you're playing for a trip to the account coll- to the national championship game. That's worth playing for even if you're a top ten pick if you're just gonNa go to the fiesta. A A different bowl. Anything outside of the College Football playoff. Perhaps that's not worth playing for. I think coli Anthony's approach could be similar if if I can come if if this team is holds it together well enough that I can come back and we can beat Duke twice beat Louisville and go to the tournament. That's worth playing for but but coming back to just play out a schedule that's leading the nowhere because the image to the resume was so significant in my absence that we can't get to the tournament then. I think you could reasonably argue. It's time it's time to just clock out. That's why I think his situation is vastly different than James Wiseman situation. I mean if coal as that he comes back to take North Carolina to the IT. He's just a great talent who played at North Carolina. Like who cares but why has been in theory was set to rejoin the top ten team. And you know if you take memphis to a final four. You're a legend forever in Memphis emphasis. You know they don't have the history of North Carolina or Duke or Kentucky. You any Memphis Fan can can tell you that the starters from all three three final four teams. There's never been a national champion. So you got a chance to go do that. And what is a wide open year to walk away from that I still think is just just just odd and I don't think that he would be walking away from that. So it's why I guess I bought them on it this way. I would understand if North Carolina goes three and five in its next eight games and Co Anthony's cleared to return and he says but you know the numbers are so bad at this point. We're not GONNA be able to get to the incidentally tournament. I'm just going to focus on my pro career. I would understand that a lot a lot a lot more easily than then I can understand James Wiseman walking away when he walked away I would to. UNC seven and five and next four games are at home. The road is after that or pit in Virginia tech I understand. UNC's serious down swell here but I do think that it will be instantly good enough spot. Where provided there there are no further setbacks and you know it's an it's an MC L. It's it's not insignificant by any means? Let's he's gotta get fully healthy here. They're not gonNA put them back on the floor until he is one hundred percent you know. Make the parallel almost to design Williamson. Obviously obviously Except signed Williamson is now being handsomely. Paid and company is not yet I do think the Carolina I'm Projecting Carolina will be still within reach of the tournament by the time he was able to come back. And so that's what will make Make that happen. But we'll wait and see obviously get investments on that story will continue to update up to you talk about it and see where we go from there.
James Wiseman Says He Will Leave Memphis and Enter the N.B.A. Draft
"James Wise leaving Memphis. He never came back after his suspension after that forgave came back court ordered to play or the initial possible eligibility suspension Meena comes. I WanNa ask you big picture. What is the moral of the stores I? Sometimes it feels like we're piling on the way but they make it so easy right because the moral of this story is they might have won that battle but what they really lost the war. I don't know what this is going to mean for. James Wiseman I think he could have benefited from marketing himself. A bit by being out there in March but now he gets to protect his body Eddie and perhaps make some money. I do know that this is a huge l. for the NCWA because in March we're not going to see him we're not going to say RJ Hampton. We're not gonNA see Lamelo Ball. This is undeniably undeniably at Trent Sarahspain. Yeah the moral of the story is not just that the NC Double A.'s. Rules make it so that players decide it's not worth sticking around paying eleven thousand five hundred dollars to play if you've already achieved the eligibility age that you need but that brings me to the major problem which is that that exists in the first place it's the NBA rule that required him. Go Play College basketball. When he wasn't interested in the first place like any other eighteen year old who is qualified? He should have been allowed to go do the job he can do for the money he can earn and that rules eventually GonNa go by the wayside because the top three of the top five people that are predicted to go top. Five in the draft won't be playing college basketball this year and as they continue to witness that the NBA is going to realize is that they need to provide other opportunities
"james wiseman" Discussed on Pull Up with CJ McCollum
"There's a bunch of guys that you watch early on and you just know. They're going to become a pro whenever they're ready to become a pro and now I think the biggest thing is for these kids like Zaia was in a position unaware everyone knew he had all world talent athletic ability he was a viral sensation. And you're talking about a guy who was thinking about going going back to school for a second year. Because he loved being a kid. He loved the college atmosphere so much. A guaranteed number one. Picking draft was thinking about going back to school so you fast forward Karma is obviously on our team now. We just talked the other day and he told me that he was seriously considering going back to school after he won a national championship circus. And I remember watching the interviews and him him saying you know I would definitely consider coming back especially if we don't WanNa Championship this season. You talk about guys who know they're going to become millionaires no they can play in the NBA but just really love competing. They love being a kid. They love the college atmosphere. I say it all the time I love Oh playing in the NBA. But there's nothing like being collars. There's nothing like being. The big man on campus at a university is different. The exposures different lack of responsibility of not what happened to be a grownup. All those things. That are amazing and I love being NBA player. But there's just nothing like being in college because it only lasts you know for a few years and then it's over and and then you Kinda reminisce on the old time so I think just to your point is these people really just love playing basketball. These kids enjoy it. They WANNA be around their friends. Maybe you're going to have to go to the NBA. Right right away but your friends are that you played a you with that. You grew up with Steph Kinda pushes them and forces them into college and then they enjoy competing against each other and kind of building their brand of basketball before going to the NBA. I hear what you're saying. The the problem is that wise. We didn't get a chance now to build this brand right from that. If you're GONNA argue of like big picture not just the basketball side of things then. The kid loses out because he's not able to build the You know all the endorsement style points and all the things that Zairean doctoral experience for example last year and he didn't even like. Let's say you had a really good year. He plays and Memphis has a great year and he doesn't even get the opportunity now to say. Let me come back when you consider coming back for a second year like so the NCAA is out right. And that's the saddest part that okay so I hear your fan about if you're in that position and obviously I know you're much different and that's one of the reasons why I think fans relates you so wealthy but imagine if you weren't as position you were the number one overall recruit in the country. You go to school and within Aker Three Games you're suspended for basically a third of the season and then right when you're about the comeback you decide you know what. Let me just go pro your entire college. Experience is basically over before it got even even remotely start. Yes I couldn't imagine going through that honestly. I'm sure it was an emotional roller coaster ride being able to play with your teammates and then have taken away for something. You had no control over. Something you didn't even do does is beyond me but it just kinda shows you like the decision making process for a businessman like he's a kid at eighteen nineteen years old but he's becoming coming businessman right before very is understanding the value of himself understanding what he has to offer not only college basketball but to the NBA. A guy got to play three games with his friends and his peers and experienced college a little bit and now I think he just realized that there's no point and playing in college basketball. When you know you're going to be the number one overall pick I think? He went to school with the intention of enjoying trying to win a championship. In I think Memphis would've been in position to do. Just that I think James Wiseman they have a chance to win it all which is probably how he envisioned going to the NBA. But now he has to kind of change change course a little bit and it's sad that he's been forced to do this. And it's something that I can't relate because I can't relate to being the number one overall player in the country coming out of high school I can't relate to knowing that I'm GonNa go WPRO eighteen or nineteen because I just wasn't there yet but I can imagine that he had some help with this decision. I'm sure penny played a role in just kind of let them know that. Look man you're going to be the number one pick do what you have to do. Our respect your decision either way because at the end of the day painting care a lot about these players because he he wants a time was one of us yeah the NCAA me though. It's it's whether or not it was ever say how purpose is if feels like the NCAA purposely thing to Elite players like we don't Oh we don't need you we don't want to. It's like they're almost being the players. Like wise. Almost be penalized for the fact that it is a one and done situation association and I guess the question that would be I want to. This is solved if the if the NBA takes away to one and done and either makes it two years or as we basically expect in the coming years to have to have The ability to go straight out of high school with at six part of this the problem because then see then the NCAA. Maybe doesn't have as much power. I think it could definitely alter instabilities power. I think a lot of kids would gopro out of high school and I think a rule changes looming. I think at some point a rule change is going to be coming to where kids will be able to go pro at a high school and I think that will eliminate some of these situations relations to wear parents or family are accepting money behind the kids back in an ultimately affecting the kids eligibility. But I think that's something that's is going to happen in the future but the instable always have power because they're the only institution in the world to where they just essentially essentially take advantage of your skills your traits in make millions and millions of dollars off of you. I just get so frustrated when the NCAA finds a way to To penalize someone. That really didn't have anything to do with anything. I it really gonNA penalize Memphis it should have been penny or it should have been the school Maybe lose a scholarship or whatever but don't take away a third of the season twelve games from potential number one pick. There's an article in the USA. Today that goes more into detail about basically saying that You know if you're if you're looking at this from thirty thousand feet think about how significant it is for James wise been to say no to March madness And and and you know the rest of the season for building his brand on and off the court so that he can just be in Jim by himself itself working out like that's not that says more about what the kid feels like he Or more about it says more about the NCAA and like its lack of appeal than it does Anything else like that's that's a that's a real problem for for college basketball moving forward. It's a huge problem because besides the experience of being in college the friendships. You'll make you're not. You're not getting your degree in six months. These kids are doing afford four to six months at the university the NCAA tournament starts the plane instability tournament and then they declare for the draft shortly after they leave Squirrelly so it's not like it. You're getting closer to attain your degree. So you know you're not getting your degree in six months and for some of these guys cases all you can do is hurt your stock doc. Like if James Wiseman doesn't play he's not being evaluated. They're basing everything off of what they've already seen. He has no chance of injury. He's already a top three pick and now he's basically securing himself similar to how football players have done in past sitting out the ball game. You know what I'm capable of doing you see my body of work now. I'm going to work on my game. I'M GONNA make sure that I'm not hurt. I'M GONNA come into this season healthy as a rookie and be in position to start training as early as possible so that I can make the transition from prep to pro similar to how a lot of players I've done it. You start training now able to really focus on certain things that'll be beneficial to your transition to the NBA. Maybe shooting maybe CBS strength. Maybe as conditioning. Maybe it's meal planning. Maybe it's just understanding how to be an adult. You start taking courses on media you really start to figure out how to become a professional in all aspects and this becomes your fulltime job as opposed to having to go to class go to practices which are team travel playing collegiate games. You're just out here now. Becoming a professional twenty four seven this is your full time job now but doing that is not as fun right as like planning on national TV and playing March madness. But that's the whole reason to go. Oh to college if you get that experience and be a kid like you said for as long maybe another six months or whatever it is so to say no to that that they think about what that it's not just the short term to long term of how many more you know young players are going to look at what James Wise is doing or Lamelo Bell Lamelo Ball and Arja the answer for that matter and say that's what I wanted. I agree and I think this is something that can be solved and should be solved soon in. I think the the moral of the story is that James Wiseman he made this decision. But I'm sure he had helped and I'm sure the people that helped him make this decision or not happy with the NC Double A.'s. Ruling and as a result. Aw.
"james wiseman" Discussed on Pull Up with CJ McCollum
"I'm healthy and thriving and we went to games in a row consecutively with another game coming up shortly against the Orlando Magic during our home. Stand along home standing which will play the the Timber Wolves followed by the Utah Jazz on the road the day after Christmas Jordan. I'M JEALOUS YEAR IN HAWAII. He is that correct. That's correct. I was in Miami lacking thank. You knew that change. That was more of a work but Miami Hawaii I feel very guas right now and it's been great. I finally been able to get some Sun. I'm going slowly with the sun and I want to get too much. I was like a like a charge. Pineapple It's been great. I've been able to watch a lot of hoops. That's the best part including another thirty feet from you. Laugh night regulations on that I appreciate it man. We just try and get as many ways as possible back in this playoff race. A couple of weeks ago. I said we're about two weeks away now. Stanford me on what I said and say that we're about ten days away from being back in that you know six to AC range. I think we're like a win or two away away from being agency right now just based on where we're at in in who else is playing Okay See Dallas is up there. Sacramento's up there those few teams that are in that you know seven to nine range. Obviously Dallas is going to go through some lump without Luca Luca but I think that they'll be able to weather the storm and stay firm in that in that playoff race. It's going to be a fun ride. Fifty Plus Games left lock can happen in a lot can change as we've all seen throughout the the years in the NBA everybody's injury away from their season turning upside down. Everybody's a few games in a row drop drop-off games in a row away from sliding just based on how close to Western conference is in has been historically but we have something to talk about outside of the NBA. Right now. The big news today. Big Big big news out of grind that big a city. I'm surprised it took them this long to do it. Honestly and for those who. That aren't aware James. Wiseman has announced that he will leave Memphis higher agent and prepare for the upcoming NBA draft. The was suspended. Twelve games stemming from an investigation in which he basically received compensation to his family without knowing his mother was paid eleven thousand and five hundred dollars in two thousand seventeen before accepting the head. Coaching job does Alma Mater. It makes things interesting because Penny Hardaway's the one that did it making him a booster it's interesting. Because Kim had no idea it was gonna be going to become the head coach at Memphis. He was just kind of looking out for someone who was trying to progress move forward and put themselves in a better position only for themselves but their families. So it's sick that he even had to explain himself and it's even sicker that the NC Double A.. Decided to punish this the kid who had no idea his family was receiving compensation for the move and the move just helped put him in a position to receive more exposure to be in a better area Korea and to potentially get ready for the NBA draft. which is what he ultimately has to do? Now Jordan. Are you surprised that it took this long for him to declare for the draft and hire an agent. You know what I'm actually not. Because I was like if he was going to decide that he didn't need college and then he just wanted to prepare era for professional basketball specifically in the NBA. Then I think you know. We would've seen him go the route of Lamelo or arts of Hampton who we obviously have. I've had to go overseas in place. Something that Brandon Jennings did a lot of guys. You know Terrance Ferguson. Where they felt like Let me go be a pro somewhere else. So with that had in mind for him to be suspended twelve games which I thought was behalf as you know for him to then wait to this point. I guess it is a little surprising. But it's it's more surprising to me that He was positioned in the first place. Because I thought he would have like the fact that he filed an injunction to me me and basically challenged the NCAA and he felt like okay. I'm GONNA stay and I'M GONNA try to make this make this right in and take Memphis to the NCAA tournament and you know really really make a name for myself from a national perspective in March so I think it's more surprising to me that he found himself in college. And then ultimately File deduction and then and then decided that you know last minute that he didn't need a college basketball anymore I I. I'm really excited. I just for him though because I feel like now he can really do. What a lot of guys In addition would like to do which is just focused on basketball and not not really worry about school. The I think it's terrible honestly. I'm not surprised that he's decided to go to the NBA. I think that what's more surprising in is that he tried to go to college. He tried to do the right thing. He wanted to be a kid for a little bit longer as you said before. He's obviously good enough to go. Overseas to take the RJ Hampton to take the Lamelo ball route and basically give up a chance to play in college. A chance to get alternate become professional right away. I think it shows you what type of character he has but the end of the day you have to do. What's best for you? Obviously he's all world talent. He's going go to the NBA. It's it's essentially a guarantee it's just a matter of the first bigger the second pick at this point so why waste your time not being able to play in Games Games. You know this is this is causing him to not be seen by. Scouts is causing him to not be able to be tiptop shape. Why not just go train now because you're going to become professional anyway anyway? I think it's the it's I think it's the right decision for him to make. I think that if he would have known that he was going to be suspended. Coming into this year he probably would have went overseas. He's or sat out the year like dairies. Bazeley did for the Oklahoma City Thunder. So it's it's very unfortunate as we both have stated and I just hope that the NCW learns from this understanding that they're going to lose a lot of players going forward if they continue to punish kids in this manner. Because there's no point in going to college. If you have to sit out I I. Yeah and I'll I would argue that This this reflects way more poorly on the NCAA. Then thousand wise men or even University of Memphis for or penny for that matter because who loses out now the kid. The kid loses out to a degree but estalbish Li like as college basketball fans. We're the ones that lose out the NCAA lose out. Because you're you're now taking away one of the premier players in the country from from one of the one of the premier teams team that a lot of people thought could be a final four club and this is not to say that like the most important thing for for wise in wants. Let's go to a final four and have a great march but we've seen it help. We've seen great college. Seasons with great pressman Have have you know big impacts on their careers whether it was calling any towns or Anthony Davis You know I just thinking about Kentucky Guys Williamson last year like the. NCAA was his face for then and but now the NCAA is losing wise but he barely played at all like you said he tried to do the right thing. You're she tried to go to school and It's it's itself is for me to sit to say this but I'm I'm just jealous that we're not GONNA or I'm envious of of the. We're not going to be able to get to see him anymore. I think it's really sad. I and It's not gonNA hurt his draft stuff like he's GonNa be number one and number two but it is GonNa hurt the NCAA and It's it's ironic that the is the one that put the suspension out there. But they're the ones that are gonNA penalize more right and I'm just happy. I got a chance chance to see him play here in Oregon not too long ago on the Nike Hoop Summit. That gave me a chance to be able to watch a lot of future pros historically throughout the last seven years. I've been able to watch a lot of guys who ended up being drafted and potentially go one indoor come straight to the NBA from from abroad. But we're lucky we live in an era renou. We're social media so prevalent and these scouts have so much access to these high school kids before they eventually go to the to the collegiate level table to see them at a youth tournament but awash practices. They're able to see them. Atalanta these Nike Adidas grassroots events to wear in years past and maybe a decade or two decades two decades ago. This would have really hurt this kid. But now he's already been seen. He has agreed on scout dot com. ESPN has the rankings kings. They have a great breakdown and understanding of the type of impact that he's going to be able to have at the NBA level. You're talking about a seven foot one sinner who skilled. He can run the floor. He can you make jump shots out to fifteen feet. He has touch around the basket and he still growing still learning still becoming more of a man in his own right yeah I was talking to own. NBA Executive about the decision of of Of leaving and not going back to school with the plane and he said it doesn't really affect wise men in the sense of like his game in more effects if anything the image of does he really love the game competitor You you know if you fire enough like basically always question marks of of any of Alati young players but specifically you know someone like wise men who we really really like as fans If we're going to find something to critique is GonNa be well because he's so talented. It's very easy as it back and say did he really go one hundred percent on that for that rebound or did he want that fifty fifty ball. Did he run the floor. Like these are the same. A lot of question marks. That'd be best about other really good players. There's that have become great players like when When when Colin Karl Anthony towns coming out people were wondering is physically tough enough and and we've obviously seen ought to be You know completely ridiculous but these are the question marks as you can find for kids because because we this is the way we we we view player I see and I would actually argue that One more note is that I don't college basketball in the NCAA. Like I don't think they understand Dan their place in the ecosystem of of of the entire process like all its basketball is supposed to. It'd be a launching point careers and right now if you think about some of the elite players in the country they're either hurt or they're on bad teams you know freshmen. In a wiseman leave only pennies. Now her The Kenner George. Anthony Edwards is similar to Ben Simmons situation where he might not make the tournament. Like what's the upside for these guys to play and get nipped possibly could hurt. There's a lot of side besides the fact that these kids just really enjoy joy playing in college. I think that's the biggest thing a lot of them already know. They're going to become pros at some point. They've known it since the days when shoo sponsors and you know the Nikes the Adidas are all inviting them to various camps and clinics. And they're being rated on all these all these websites and the projections of the mock drafts on draft dot on ninety. SPN or coming down so these kids have a pretty good understanding of where they're likely to be drafted. Anthony Edwards is another guy. WHO's in the in the Ryan to be the number one pick in a draft? I've watched tinplate on TV. He's a pro. He could've come out of high school and been appro right away. That's the type of skills said that he has the understanding of how to create space. He just he's his NBA player. When I watch certain guys can just Kinda tell like this kid who's GonNa play in the NBA data? Same thing I said about Jamal. Murray when I watched him play when he was younger I seen the same thing in the Fox..
"james wiseman" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast
"Their norlander? Connected to your sciatic nerve and your tail tailed on the end of your spine and when it gets swollen and or spasms and I've I've had some spasms like yeah I mean I've been fighting this for a while but it has worsened so much in the past ast four to six days that I can't stand for more than five to seven minutes at a time. I can't like I'm having trouble sleeping. I can't sit in certain spots. And and I've had her I have heard from people who dealt with SCIATICA which is you know I have a form of that but parish I'll I'll be Roman there are moments when I'm like I'm never going to be better. This is this is just me now. This is how I'm gonNA live forever. I would trade. I would trade for your double tennis elbow in an instant for this. I am recording this. podcast this is what Lake thirty seven degree angle. So I can stretch out my left leg. It's absurd word so because of all this and I did wait until basically the last moment I could not get on the plane like. I can't even envision having to sit on a cross US country I I would have tried to break the door open and just jump out of the plane at two thousand feet it just. It could not happen. Anyone that has had sciatic issues obviously obviously could understand what this so. I'm doing stretching. I went and got a massage today but even that like like I felt worse after that. I don't know what's going on. My calf is getting tight. I don't mean to bitch I'm just I'm in January. I'm in genuine pay. I took an EPSOM salt bath today. You've ever done that ever ever sat in that. I I'm sure sure at some point my kids have. I know I've never done it so I was like I'm going to do first of all wasn't last time. You sat down in a tub while. Okay okay I'm six three not sat in a tub. I can't even tell it's been the ninety S. I think there might have been one or two times where I found myself up for other reasons but regardless J. norlander okay okay no it was like a puppet show but anyway so like I can't get comfortable I I'm just too big for it like I was in joke. I can't stretch stretched out on like a rolling around the UP. Some salt bath waters flying everywhere. Got At James Wiseman column. You're in Vegas. It's a bummer. Man I wanted to be either with but it would it would. It would not be possible. So yes I am going through something again. If you've done this I mean I'm doing and I'm doing the pigeon pose I'm doing Reclining Pigeon Post Office hip stretch. I'm doing all. The lunges is frog. Bridges regular bridges planks. I'm trying to do anything everything to get right again because I have envy. I mean I legitimately have envy for people people that can stand for seven minutes. The things you take for granted in life GP. I'm telling you when you are like this is how you must've felt in in the days after you got double tennis when you when stuff like that is taken away from you. I mean you never want anything more than than a clean bill healthier so so hopefully I can be on the men soon enough time. But it's it's this is why I have even more appreciation empathy for these athletes that go through these grueling things like Josh Langford and they're able to return to form and thrive in spite of that really inspiring so anyway. That's maybe I just you you know selfishly rambled a bit too long but we like we pumped up like we're going to vegas baby. No I'm not in like pumped it up like AH GOING TO VEGAS. We're both getting there on Thursday. We'll record the podcast and then we've got the night to do whatever we want to do. Instead I'm flying here wiseman the news breaks. I'm literally sleeping on a plane. And the WISEMAN newsbreaks wake up and I'm like Oh God and so the billing with that I land immediately to text is hey can you do at H. Q. Hit We weren't doing any. CBS sports stuff. Today they were like can you do a CBS sports queue. Hit and our camera person Liz. She had just landed when I landed. And we're not at the same places and so I was like. Yeah I guess we can do it no problem and so she's like okay. Cool come to my hotel. We'll just shoot it here. I'm like why don't you come to my hotel here. Why people knew you and follow you on twitter? I'm I'm listen. I'm the talent I'm the talent you come to me. I'm just kidding. We went to her to her hotel. which is at the corner wear player? Oh no I thought it was. I thought it was. I'm almost positive this is the this is correct. And we're getting. I knew we'd get off on a tangent here. No I'M NOT GONNA go. It's the same hotel were you managed to leave hawk. Assan on the Kim Kardashian night get back. Get Your Golf Club. Am I tell me I'm wrong. Get Your Golf clubs and you woke up and you Atlanta and you didn't know what was going on. That is the same hotel that is where I was staying. Yeah realized is that before this. I didn't think about it but like I I was thinking more about to walk. I was thinking more selflessly. I left Pakistan. Have we told the story the podcast at least three times. Okay quick merge I left. I got a six. AM flight back home the next morning. It's like a setter Saturday morning. Yeah Saturday morning six. AM flight like six am departure not be at the airport. My six flying home at six. I've got a host a charity event that Saturday night. I'm the same way. I'm the master of ceremonies at the Atlantic ten media day and the master ceremonies at this charity of it and the only way to get home in time is if I literally took six. AM flight so tell New Orleans and everybody else no matter how much phone we're having tonight. No matter how much attention Kim Kardashian who standing right over there is paying attention to me. I've got to get out of here by like two o'clock because the goal goal the thing was go back to the hotel shower go to the airport. Just stay up all night sleep in our anything that you know me. I look up at three o'clock. I'm still due at Hockenheim. Kim Kardashian gone by this point. By the way there's no show yeah sticking around norlander norlander had nowhere to be gone before me. The this is actually. This doesn't speak well of me like it's a pretty embarrassing story. Once you cut through all the yet impressive because you had more luggage than usual. That's the golf club because I played golf at a suitcase. Golf clubs I left Pakistan. took her car back to that hotel. Got My suitcase. Got My golf clubs. Got On the plane which was flying straight to Atlanta Atlanta back to Memphis got on the plane the Knicks. I don't say this to be funny because it's kind of embarrassing and like I'm it should never happen to anybody. I don't remember leaving Hawk Assan and the next thing I remember that these are the. I'm trying to tell you the last thing I remember in the next thing I remember last thing I remember is standing in a booth like watching Kardashian stand on a stage and talk to all of us right. That's what I remember that and the next thing I remember is landing in Atlanta. I have no memory of anything that happened in between but in between I left Pakistan got a car went to hotel took a shower. Got My suitcase. Got My golf clubs and with the airport got through security. Got On the plane. I have no recollection of any of it. And so when I get back to Memphis my suitcase there but my golf clubs aren't and I go to baggage claim and I'm talking to the guy and I'm like Yo. Can you see how many bags I checked. And he's like well. How many bags do I said I? Yeah that's what I'm trying to ask you. Look up for him. He was like well. Just you don't remember how many bags you check as like I I don't I like I like I needed to check to my suitcase. And My golf clubs. My suitcase is are clearly got one. But I have no recollection of whether I checked my golf clubs or an or not and he said where are you coming from. I said Las Vegas. He's like okay that make sense. Then let me look and he said you did check them. I was sort of a bitch. Look at me but they got loft. So I didn't get most golf clubs until much later but I did pull off that miraculous trip. What's what's the point of that story? I have no. I DID A lot. I did a live H. Q.. Shot at the hotel right next door to pot got got assassinated did and then and then I had to go to another studio do a James Wiseman hip Wisconsin Pill for sportscenter and I went straight for that to here to talk to you and this is my night. This is what I'm doing. norlander lay down and talk. Jay Wiseman for fifty hour. We love it man. Hey Hey listen I had to do five podcast. This week. You had four K.. So I felt like I know we're at this. One feels life with the quick lit there. Let's move on real quick and I mean real. I'll be quick but I feel like we need to point it out. There were some some interesting results tonight. I didn't see a minute of any of it because of what I just described but I do remember on a previous podcast. Use saying something about Seton Hall needs to win and I'm like what they're playing Maryland with other best players. How are they going to win that game? They want it fifty. Two Forty eight meantime Auburn as you mentioned earlier beat. NC State seventy nine. Seventy three so Bruce Pearl Tigers are now ten and now they still don't have a signature when we discuss didn't last podcast but they are to know shouts to them Seton Hall fifty to forty eight over Maryland without their two best players. Norrland make sense of that. I can't I watched the entire game. It was hideous doing well doing what I did. I did hit Wisconsin Pal. Well and you know before we aren't Marylou. He's a Maryland. Good he asked me. Did you see any of the Seton Hall Maryland game and I said now I've just I've been bouncing nonstop. Stop Him. He used the same word you use. He said it was hideous so horrendous I mean it was it was like I was like doing like stretching in Rehab so I was like angry at myself angry watching the game. It's like just you know just just like cursing out mark turgeon for how his team was playing. It was just Jalen. Smith wasn't wasn't good. Wanted a better game. Credit to Seton Hall down to best players still gets a home win. Maryland's dropped two straight Seton Hall. I think had fifteen blocks in this game that was impressive so shouts to the pirates for getting a win in a tight spot when it needed it. Got It at home I was. I was just impressed with that. With Maryland is just Kinda game. Where if you're again it's like if you're a top ten team? What what is that? What what where are we? I don't even know what existences anymore partly because I think on to Aleve and the EPSOM salt bath that I've been taken so so I don't even know. How are we even talking to each other right now but Maryland supposed to be this seventh-ranked team top ten in college basketball? It looked nothing. Unlike it back to back losses both on the road penn state and Seton Hall. They're understandable but this team should just be better than what it is. It made a rally late similar to Kentucky. NFL Utah on Wednesday night Maryland couldn't quite close it And actually got a couple of breaks there near the end made a couple of plays but it didn't happen so you'll be dropping them in in the Friday version of the top twenty five and one to wear I don't know Seton Hall it's a it's a big win and gets the seven and four and you know just that's a notable one now. It has at least the Maryland Win Solid Iowa state victory and nothing else stands out too much but good for that program and yeah. That's pretty much all I've got to say about it. Because the game was tied.
"james wiseman" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast
"It's undeniable that the school the coaches all of the adults in this situation. Screw James Wiseman is an over. He did not take the money okay. He did not take the money. Allegedly do not even know about the money Reno regardless of the details on that I also think that the payment plan for the end of the play play a factor here as well because because now he doesn't have to pay any of that stuff he's not on the hook for it so I understand all that I'd love to see him play. I'm sure it's teammates. Would love to have them there as coaches coaches. But I know you're just presenting situation but I find a lot just bs man. The kid got screwed over to begin with. And I just don't blame at all for leaving even in the way that he did later than we all expected him to listen again. It's his decision but I do think that the idea that. Hey you're guaranteed top three pick just shut shut it down. It doesn't come without other issues or other questions. Let's say that he is a key. Guaranteed top pick. Well the difference between the first pick in the fifth pick in terms of contract sixteen million dollars it's not insignificant and the Ncaa Tournament in college. Best one general can be a big showcase for you. That helps build a brand that gets. It's you build a better deal than you otherwise would get would have gotten us. He's a big so he wasn't GonNa get a Zion deal also probably one hundred million dollars in shoe money just by becoming a star in college basketball. That was something to be considered. And so when I'm telling the Memphis coaches we're trying to lay out a counter argument. Some of it was rooted in selfish reasons. Of course they want him to play basketball for their team but there are other things that were being presented to him. The things that I just said and I will say you know circle back to the way the calendar work. If they'd just sitting down for the first nine games heading back at Tennessee you only have to keep him you only have to keep him close us and keep people who are trying to encourage them to do this away till December fourteenth and then he's back on the team. I'll just tell you this. No healthy player has never quit a team in the middle of the season for the reasons that James Wiseman just did like literally in the history of basketball. And so if you if you weren't suspended for another month could you have held them together if you could have had him eligible last weekend and now he's a part of the team. Would this played out a different way. Like I said we'll never know for sure. If I were guessing I would guess that. I just don't see us in it if they could kept into the Tennessee game which they did by definition. He didn't leap today if he plays in Tennessee game. I just cannot imagine him dipping out on his teammates. Four days later anything else. James James Line between this and the emergency pod were were coming up on fifty minutes so yeah it's been it's been it's been real James But we'll circle back with the I. Guess Guess after the final four once we get into more draft centric stuff unless news dictates. Otherwise Okay Gimme eight minutes to ask you one more question just kidding. The James Wiseman story the biggest during college basketball right now but before that broke the biggest news was Kentucky losing again late. Windy here in Las Vegas. We're going to get into that next but I check this out from the tee box to.
"james wiseman" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast
"Nineteen and welcome back to the CBS Sports College Basketball podcast where we sometimes discuss camouflaging and leaky black. Matte New Orleans is here with me and the big news of the day is that James Wiseman Eisman is withdrawing from Memphis to prepare for the NBA draft. Let's college career is done after. Just three games. If you're unfamiliar with the detail let me recap his situation for you real quickly. The instable a let Memphis no before the season opener that wiseman had eligibility concerns Memphis play demanding way then after three games Memphis did what it should have done in the first place which is ruled him. Ineligible and apply for reinstatement instantly responded with a twelve game suspension in the Memphis and wise men were disappointed. Everybody said he was looking forward to rejoining rejoining the team January twelfth at South Florida but those plans change now decided he's done. He announced it on instagram. Norlander I know you talked about this earlier today on emergency pod you record a while I was flying to Las Vegas for folks. Who maybe haven't heard that yet? Let's just start with your general thoughts on this major development in the sport that a consensus top five pick who is not injured has voluntarily ended his college career. Sure I will be quick with this because I want to hear your take sooner within later. And yes if you are listening to this one prior to the emergency pod I mean I just I I straight rift for about twenty minutes and at the end of it at the end of it on my twitter feed it popped. It's not nearly as significant. That Josh Langford was going to be season. We'll get to that tune so for a minute there. I was like comparisons on a plane or emergency. PODCASTS I can barely sit it got it got real wild here my my broad takeaway on this and I did radical Erica subsequent column that you can read the CBSSPORTS dot com or pull it up on your on your APP on your phone after you listen to. The pod is sucks or college basketball I was surprised by this. You know when we got to this point. I didn't think we would have wiseman opting out. I thought the time for that would have been frankly. You know within three days after the appeal compelled that would be a twelve game suspension. And then as you know as after I finished the pod Searched sat down to bang out a quick column. I thought well I don't blame him whatsoever when I look at his situation You know to as I said on the podcast before adults failed James Wiseman left and right for varying the reasons but his mom for taking the money Penny Hardaway forgiving it out of the kindness of his heart long before he was the Memphis coach. The AA with its rule book just left and right James Wiseman has been has been pulled in so many directions. He's GonNa play he's not gonNA play. He's eligible. He's on the floor now. We're taking them off the floor that at the end of all this. I don't blame a kid who's eighteen seniors old going to be worth tens of millions of dollars officially in a matter of months here and he just decided to step out take command of his situation. His draft stock has no chance barring freak injury of dropping wherever like he is the third pick in the absolute worst case scenario. I think at this point so so. I commend him for that. And if anyone's looking to kind of to bash on the kid for leaving early and I will say that I don't think that is so much a part of our discourse anymore which has been nice to see but still it sucks for Memphis that final four hopes earned clearly like. They're just not what they were when you thought Weisman was coming back but I commend him for the decision and if I was is in his same exact spot. I can't say that I wouldn't do the exact same thing. So that's my take away but you know I I. I rented this rift on it for twenty minutes so I I've done a here for another two you and a half. Let's let's throw it back to you. What are your thoughts in Florida? Soon have a glass. I would start by saying I. Don't blame him because because I wouldn't blame anybody worth tens of millions if not hundreds of millions of dollars for deciding they're not going to play a sport free that they will soon be able to make millions of dollars playing so when RJ Hampton decides. He wants to skip college. Or Darius is basically decides. He wants to skip college. Obviously they took different paths but they both decided college basketball wasn't for them. You're not going to be able to find a column or podcast or tweet for for me. Criticizing them because I understand. That said timing is unusual. Obviously an strange and the reason is because James Wiseman wanted to play College Basketball Darius basically decided he didn't want to or either somebody decided at four him but it was was all decided in advance James decided he wanted to play college basketball even though he was regarded as the number one pick in the draft a year ago. Like that's the one thing I've heard today. Well you know. He solidified his dress. We in in three games. His draft stock was solidified. Two years ago he was always going to be a top five pick in the two thousand twenty NBA draft in fact if this was really just about draft stock. He should've just kept college altogether because that would have made more stints than going through what he's gone through. In fact year ago he was more certain to be the number one pick in the draft. Danny is right now because this Lamelo ball didn't exist a year ago in so again. The timing is is strange because I would have understood just like I said if he just said listen everybody it says on the number-one pick in the two thousand twenty NBA draft. I'm not going to go to college. I'm just GonNa sit this thing out. Prepare for the draft. I'm not playing amateur basketball. Okay that makes since to me or I'm going to go overseas okay. That makes sense to me. I could have understood if when the incident announced a twelve game suspension. He he just said you know what I'm out. I'm not playing these stupid rules. These people are GonNa try to make me sit out twelve games and then pay eleven thousand five hundred dollars to some charity now. That's not what I'm doing. I'm Outta here. That would have made sense to me but to accept the suspension instagram tweet. About how how much. You're looking forward to rejoining your teammates and competing for a national championship and then serve most of the suspension and and then just bounce the week before Christmas. That does that part. The way he's done this does it make much sense to me what he's doing. I understand in the way he did it. Does it make sense and so the question becomes well then what happened because this clearly was not the plan what happened. Seems pretty clear to me Somebody got in there and and while he was detached from his teammates coaching staff more so than he's ever been since getting on campus because part of this suspension is when they travel. He stays home when he's around them all the time. I imagine you feel like apart or something you with your boys every day you with your staff every day but now they're on the road and watching them on TV and you listen. When you're somebody like James Wiseman somebody's around you at at all times? It's either your coach and players or when they're gone who knows it could be so I I guess bottom line it this way. Somebody got in there and convince them. That being at Memphis wasn't in his best interest anymore. That playing college basketball wasn't his best interest anymore. And I don't know if I would agree with that person because there are lots of people right now who could just quote. Shut it down if they wanted wanted to based on they solidified their draft stock. I mean Anthony Edwards do it. I don't think he's going to and that would even be more understandable at this point because it doesn't appear here at Georgia they're going to be competing for anything nine in one ranked eleventh in the country you add James Wiseman unless they really could compete for a final four national championship and so he is walking away from something that other people value and I don't believe for a second that he just woke up today and decided that's what he wanted to do somebody he has convinced either him or the people around him that this is what they want him to do. Well I've said this and I'm not. I'm going to try really hard not to repeat what I saw on the podcast. But just so you have frame of reference. Because I know that you didn't listen to it. Or why would you The twenty minute pod that I did my believe and I still don't have information or Intel L. on this I did not seek it out and no-one provided to me I just I believe that the timing of this means that in a to me. It's an agent agent. Got To him and convinced him to to switch what I will be interested in seeing. Is I believe pennies representations from that's independent sports and entertainment Whenever we find out the person or people that will represent James Wiseman in the lead up to the two thousand twenty? NBA Draft You would think given the background that maybe I would have a kind of a foot in the door Given the relationship between Weizman and Penny will that be the case or will I. I'll be right there and I promise you. Nobody who is representing penny. Hardaway had anything to do with with James Wise leaving Penny Hardaway. That's that that's is what I'm getting at here so like whereas let's just want to lay it on the table here quite obviously if if there had ever been when Wiseman was junior or a senior Someone someone from a sports agency that wanted to get in given who the Memphis coach became It would not be a surprise if we came to find out later down the road that a UH hardaway and Weisman's representation came from the same company but now again. This is my opinion given the timing of this. I might think that's less likely that's my read on. We could come to find out that it's completely something else you know who knows. I think that the James Wiseman in college story and all things things attached to it pretty much end here this weekend but who knows maybe something POPs two weeks four weeks eight weeks from now something in the lead up to the draft that we find that. That's a little bit different but I was surprised. Surprised by this and yeah it's it's losing okay. What other Thoughts I well I can tell you. Your opinion is a fact it would be foolish to think that an agent doesn't http isn't playing some role in this and then the other thing I can tell you is that some of the people around James Wise Men and Penny Hardaway have gotten sideways in recent weeks and that played a role in this.
"james wiseman" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast
"We're not GONNA have that this year and it's a it's a major bummer. And I hope and I don't think this'll be the case so I do hope since Cole Anthony is kind of in the same discussion different player. Obviously but man it would really just be dagger of Carolina Season Carolina took a predictably bad loss. Just in terms like they weren't close against Gonzaga on Wednesday. Stay night like if we look up a month from now in Carolina's like barely treading water at five hundred or even under five hundred it. Would it would suck doc if Anthony has decided you know what we're not GonNa make the tournament. James is already done this. It's a knee injury for me. I'm just coming back DOC. I showed what I do certain extent although I will say anthony has not been efficient. He's been needed. He's been a high volume player. He's got you know a good good ceiling but also a low floor. Let's hope that history does not repeat itself on this specific front with him. But I can't say I'm James Wiseman and I and I think we fortunately I'm interested to hear what what Peres says about all this as well. 'cause you know we can poke fun. It has Talking so much about Memphis on the podcast. But he's he's tied in there he's plugged in and his stance on this what I think we'll be his stance. I'm happy to see that. The general public has evolved in this dance the sports following public over the past decade. Like get this happened. If James Wiseman situations details were the same happened in two thousand seven and he did this. I think you'd see a lot. More people criticizing criticizing him for the call including sports writers. You're not gonna see that as much because of the fact that the incident in its rules on amateurism in restricting James Weisman's earning power to its maximum capacity. Essentially right. Now we've moved past that point so I don't think you're gonNA see many people going after wiseman and they and they shouldn't over also also. That's you know that's my initial take on this literally in the moment as this is all this is unfolding in real time on a Thursday Thursday afternoon just three games. He was awesome in the three games. Though by the way I mean if he had been able to even remotely keep up his pace he would have been the national freshman of the year. Li listen to this one forty three point five offensive rating. That's that's a joke. Seventy six point nine percent effective field goal percentage seventy six percent shooting you. Shooting percentage was grabbing twenty six percent of Memphis defensive rebounds when he was on the floor and twenty one percent of his offensive rebounds shot eighty percent from two point range and by the way. Ah Pretty Solid Foul shooter as well seventy percent. They lose that how the team reaction going forward. We'll be interesting. I gotta believe that the players have known for a little bit. Maybe the earliest Thursday morning. But I don't think that this was all dropped on them out of nowhere as well it'd be interesting to see who wiseman ultimately signs with and and where he winds up going in the trap but that's that's a conversation for down the road and we'll touch on this more again gotta have parish get his word in the plan I believe still as parish flies over over the middle of America right now on his way to Las Vegas is still do a podcast late Thursday night east coast time now. The reason why I I am doing this right now is unfortunately I have been dealing with Physical known as pure form syndrome. So a lot of people probably don't know what second 'cause I didn't even know what it is a long story short. I can't go to Vegas because I can't endure sitting on an airplane for five hours I've got I've got a muscle. In my in my left buttocks that is pressing down on my Sciatica and good God it is so so painful so it was a an excruciating call to not go to the CBS sports classic. I held on as long as I could and did not even make that decision until Thursday morning I wanted to be there wanted to see. GP wanted to do couple in-person podcast and IT'S A. It's a frequent coincidence that I decided not to go to you. Know try and get better. And oh by the way if you've had this and you have stretching coaching or exercise recommendations. Email me tweet me. I will hear anything at this point. I have seen a doctor. I just got massage. Therapy actually was. I was getting therapy for this when I walked in the door and I got the text message like crazy about wiseman and I'm like okay. What now did he get suspended again? Do we have do. We have now a season long suspension. I wasn't on my mind that he would actually opt to go pro but anyway so that is why I will not be in Las Vegas. Hope to be able to recover ever get stronger and better Quickly as soon as possible because my goodness I can I cannot sit for long periods and and standing and walking is even Even a bit of a chore there so that's just a little behind the scenes but to also explain why I'm not there but otherwise all is well. I think I'm going to wrap it up. I mean we're going we're go in your we're encroaching here on eighteen minutes. Just wanted to give you a quickie reaction for those. That are listening to this now. Maybe a little bit delayed and you got that next podcast in your cue fire it right up. Hope you guys enjoy it. We do want to try this season to give you win capable like if I'm out of pocket or Paris out of pocket one of us if if if a story line breaks and is of such an urgency like James Wiseman leaving we want to be able to deliver for you as soon as possible because we know you enjoyed. Okay thank you so much. So kind of a weird different flavor me riffing Solo here For Eighteen twenty minutes. I'm sure we'll have a situation Later the season where it's going to be the exact opposite in Paris is going to have to take the reins and we'll do that. But we basically want to give you a podcast to fulfil that tell you what we know what we feel about subjects in real time and this is a reminder minder please do rate and subscribe Apple podcasts are preferred preference. You can still submit questions. We're going to do those mail bags every single Wednesday so please submit. Get Your questions or if you've got a great comment we're still doing that for Sunday night. Appreciate that as well and if you use a different service and there is a rating and review system do that let us know and we'll seek those out not as well but that's what we have for now. We'll talk to you later Thursday. I anticipate at the absolute absolute latest Friday morning. But I don't think that's going to be the case. I think we're going to try and turn this one to give you another podcast on Thursday night Okay and by the way we also have breaking news that Michigan State Senior Guard. Josh Lankford who has not played yet this season because of foot issues that have gone on for more than a year. At this point he is not going to play this season at all. Tommaso told reporters after after Michigan. State's practice on Thursday. That Langford had foot surgery. I'm recalling correctly. I think he went to New York for that. I'm calling that from memory Lankford stun. That's an issue college basketball. Stop the ride. I WANNA get off. This is turning into quite the busy Thursday. But that's another piece of news that will frankly we're also going to get to that on the next podcast regardless GP does the shouts. So I'm GonNa Kinda let that be his thing and I'll just wrap up here. I'll be back with shortly. Thanks for listening be sure described and I'll talk decent yeah..
"james wiseman" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast
"James Wiseman are you kidding me. We really GONNA do to emergency podcasts in one week. Oh Yeah we are here we go welcome back into the CBS sports. I on college basketball. podcast one norlander at the top. Yep Yes norlander at the top Gary Perish unfortunately is somewhere over the middle of America right now maybe Omaha Maybe Oklahoma. He's on his way to Las Vegas. I too was supposed to be on a plane at this very moment. Not Able to get to the end of this quickey emergency pod but maybe everything happens for a reason using because James Wiseman has left college basketball has left the University of Memphis and because of this I can give you an emergency. podcast shouts to everyone listening to this late late Thursday afternoon or Thursday evening. Here's what Wiseman said on Instagram as news filtered out and created a shock wave throughout college basketball in NBA draft circles on Thursday afternoon. He said today I formally withdrew from the University of Memphis and I will be preparing for the next chapter of my life ever since I was a little kid. It's been a dream of mine to play in the NBA throughout this process. I've asked God ordained my steps and lead me in the right direction. Got As my Lord and Salvation and throughout this process he has comforted me. This was not how I expected my freshman season to be but I'm thankful for everyone who has supported my family and me throughout this process. I want to thank the coaches and staff all their support. Mit for pushing me. Every day at practice practice I feel blessed for the opportunity to be a tiger and for having the honor to play with these special group of guys. I can't wait to see what they accomplished. This season the friends and fans of Tiger nation will always always hold a place in my heart. Hashtag Tigers Co cat emoji blue circle EMOJI CAT EMOJI. So that's James Wiseman three games to his name. There's a memphis tiger. He finished with sixty nine. Total minutes played. I guess you could say it was a nice career. Nineteen point seven points ten point seven rebounds and now certainly plenty to discuss here and I'll just hit on the big obvious stuff and then perish and I will go deeper on our next podcast I immediate takeaway is no memphis has been terrific so far. They've been oppressive in that they have not yet lost without Weisman who had gone seven seven games deep into this into the suspension? The final four hopes. They take a huge hit. MEMPHIS is nine and one still gonNA probably win. It's next game Saturday against Jackson state. Then it's New Orleans and two elaine to finish out the two thousand nineteen calendar. Those Games are also at home. They Georgia at home on January fourth. That might be the first true real test we see without wiseman But we'll see Georgia's not that good either and again. It's a bummer. That again that was supposed to have Anthony Edwards and James Wiseman two players that could go to in the NBA draft is now going to. We're we're going to presume. How only have one of them Let's hope Anthony Edwards is healthy and obviously wanting to to play in that game. You gotta figure that he will But Memphis which looks like the best team in the American Athletic Conference. I still think it could win that league but final four hopes. I mean this is a huge. You've got fresh precious to WHO's been good but not not nearly as efficient as he should be. How is he going to adapt as a big going forward? Knowing Wiseman isn't going to come back Lester. Kenya's has broken right hand. He's still recovering from. He hasn't played played. Four Games for Memphis we wait and see other freshmen. Dj Jeffries Boogie. LS Damian. Ball had been solid. They've been solid but their roles are going to have to increase priest significantly. Going forward. Here Memphis is still intriguing. But it's a major bummer. I mean this is the obvious thing we wanted to see a player. A seven footer of Weisman's talent potential dominance. You know for one year in college and we're going to be robbed of that all three games. It has for different reasons. Obviously it has a little bit of a Michael Porter Jr. thing going on from a couple years ago. Of course Michael Porter Jr. suffered suffered injury and then returned Quick Cup of coffee at the very very end of Missouri season. But this is kind of the same thing and it's it sucks for college basketball because Paris reference on the previous podcast I had written about about in November on. CBS Sports Dot Com College basketball. Unfortunately as just hit a habit over the past decade not every year but just about every year we're top ten lottery level talent. One Guy to guy three guys in a given season miss are missing four six eight games or even longer. Why the latest of that heck right now? UNC Coal Anthony out at least a month. If Cole Anthony was out more than the four to six week timeline at this point it wouldn't stop because of the nature of the knee injury and the MCI we just don't know and again like wiseman he's projected acted to be a high pick could go as high as third overall. So if you're coal anthony you want obviously get back on the floor. He's a tremendous competitor. But you're not going to get back out there until you agency's team doctors and Roy Williams one hundred percent confident that he cannot re aggravate that injury so with Wiseman I am a little stunned I would say that. Most people were stunning fact in the short amount of time between finding this out hopping on. CBS Sports HQ Some analysis in prepping just to do this podcast with a quick turnaround did hear from two people. That just said this kind of took me me by surprise another thought I have off of this and I'll get to the NBA draft stuff in a minute there because but to me. This is more about college basketball again. WanNa see a player like Wiseman Eisman at a program like Memphis who could have such a huge comeback year and were robbed of that. I gotta say the the announcement that he is going to turn pro signed with an agent. I I don't have information on this. This is just my. This is my instinct covering this world agent. Got To Weisman in this family I there was that could have been a combination and by the way all better for the agent and better for James If he wants to do it. If James Weisman thinks that three games playing in college is going to be enough to borderline assure him that he's a number one pick and I would say it is A. It's a mortal lock. He'll go top five barring injury and really top three even seems mortal lock status Mr Weisman. If that's good enough for him he does not a Whit to anybody to play college basketball going forward if he thinks he set for his professional career obviously his financial financial stability for he and his family going forward. But when I see this happen. And it's so remove from the incidental a reaffirming. The suspension. Obviously Memphis lost on appeal to me. It indicates from afar again. I don't have direct information on this. This is some speculation. But let's not play stupid here. I just think that some agent got got to his family and said listen. You are clearly a high level talent and what's going to be a week draft. There's just no way that your chances of going number one are better than forty percent fifty percent. You really have nothing to prove at this point and so if Washington wants to do that that's that's completely fine. I also wonder if life because you'll remember on a previous podcast a couple of really. We've talked plenty about Weisman in Memphis. So far this season did the double as mandated payment. Plan that goes into all of this because when a player gets a player his family. Gets you know so-called busted for what's happening here you have to pay. Hey back the benefits you received and you have to do it on a payment plan on a time on on a schedule and was that eventually did that hit some sort of stall where where. It was not realistic. I I have questions about that overall. I don't think it's totally stunning. That he's not coming back. I just I thought that since we'd gotten past early December mid December that this is going to be a situation where he would return and he'd get to play for for Penny Hardaway right away. The whole thing is it's a it's a little depressing in that wind penny first of all the the fact we even know all the details remember. That's not common usually when you have an AA infractions. Case and a benefits case some of the details of not a lot of details aren't privy to public information on behalf of the or the school for one reason rather but in this case you had complete transparency Penny Hardaway long before he was the coach at Memphis affords James Wiseman in his family more than ten thousand dollars for moving services. Moving cost cost to go from Nashville to Memphis area to play in four four Penny Hardaway both at the high school circuit and the grassroots circuit. And and that winds up retroactively being a benefit illegal benefit because Penny Hardaway is a booster of the University of Memphis most notably because he made a significant monetary donation. When James was seven years old To help with Memphis his hall of fame and Athletic Facilities Etcetera Etcetera. So I get all that but what if you really take a big step back and listen to rules are the rules and you got to punish them punish. That's fine. Here's where this can just it. Just it kicks college basketball. All in the ASS is that you've got the incidentally trying to manage all sorts of different rules people what's allowed what isn't and then ultimately get stuff like this college basketball is so much worse off for not having Memphis be awesome with the headline player. You're like James. Wiseman James Wiseman was a top five player of renown coming into the season before he played the game because that's how the basketball ecosystem works works. Now you know every single season we will go in and yes we will have guys like miles Powell light cash winston who had been around two three four years who will rightfully get a a lot of pub deserve that and it's awesome for college hoops that you have that kind of system built in we do. We still have plenty of love and for the Juniors and seniors but when you've got projected top five picks coming out of high school and you've got a you've got James Wise when you've got a call anthony. You've got design Williamson. Go on down the road you know. It is a way to market and sell the sport and promote the sport. And now you lose that and now also we have a situation and I don't think that this is a sign of bigger trend or anything anything like that. But you've got Wiseman projected as number one pick by some you've got lamelo ball projected as a number two pick by some. You've got Karl Anthony Third Pick and right now. None of those players suiting up in College Basketball Call Anthony's obviously out for now Lamelo ball who is injured by the way playing on the other side of the planet his eligibility to begin with was I mean that was tossed in the garbage two two years ago thanks to his father and everything that went along there. IS IT A. Is it a bad thing for college basketball. That James Wiseman says I'm Outta here. You know see later Lamelo. The ball does what he does. It's not a good thing but I also think this is a unique situation because think about it. When was the last time you can ever recall? An I mean ever ever recall a college basketball player or a college football player having an eligibility case with the details and specifics like with wiseman it has not happened. Happened moving from one spot to another going to play for a coach. WHO's one of the one of the most known famous players of his era and really You can make an argument Penny Hardaway one of the fifty best. NBA Players of all time win at full health. A and then we have this kind of case happens to be a seven footer projected. Top three repick. We haven't had something like this and then with Lamelo ball with his father. We haven't had something like that either. So it's not good but this if you start to see columns uh-huh talking heads tweets etc about you know. This trend is terrible for college basketball. You know what will we see next sure. But we're like lamelo balls the last Balkan we're not going to have a repeat of that and James Wise. There is no player right now. That's twelve fourteen fifteen seventeen years old. That is being mentor coached. Hi by a Penny Hardaway proxy if you will so it stinks. I have enough how much I was looking forward to. Having Memphis this gift wiseman back and make a real run for final. Four like imagine a world in which you've got wiseman as you know a top five player. The Tigers Win the American Athletic Conference. They get a two seed. It just brings a little more juice to the instability tournament..
"james wiseman" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"The sports leader here's rod with guest host Marcus Thompson from the athletic on KNBR one oh four five six eight well I'm here in the freezing because of I mean it's it's right it's right I like to me too broad brush Marcus Thompson with that Tom Coughlin lives joining us into bits James Wiseman leaving Memphis not shocked because they usually after the season anyway when coming back but he was in and out of suspension anyway yeah and I was ability he was supposed to come back or he was going to be allowed to come back by the NC a a middle of next month Robert Weissman said now to hell with that a play three games I'm not messing around plain for free not messing with the NC a a I'm out and you know what I don't promise that the NCAA is something that you have to deal with anyway you shouldn't have to you should be able to go right from high school to the pros it should matter nothing was making the right move and now you just hope that James Wiseman does not suffer any sort of injury while he's preparing himself for the NBA because the warriors use him AB so loosely all right John lunchtime hit.
James Wiseman's suspension upheld by NCAA
"Well the answer EE has denied the appeal of James Wiseman suspension remember the Memphis star expected to be the first pick overall in the NBA draft that was paid eleven thousand is mother accepted I should say eleven thousand five hundred dollars from penny Hardaway back in two thousand seventeen when penny Hardaway was not yet the coach but now he is the coach Memphis it appealed the ruling of a suspension but it was upheld by the division one committee on student athlete reinstatement so to nobody's surprise James wise men will still continue to be suspended
"james wiseman" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast
"Five hundred dollars is nothing to me the goodness of my heart. I saw somebody I cared about. Who needed money? And I gave the money. Okay that's his version. I don't believe that but I do believe that. Eleven thousand five hundred dollars ain't nothing to him but I do what I. The money was motivated by. He was trying to win a state championship. That's that's what he was doing trying now to the fact in in doubt. Apparently I mean you know more about that case than I do but There could already be a vacation situation in regard to the title and all that too. Yeah that's that's probably going to be wiped from the record books as well but you'll never convince me that penny hardaway a was just by cannon out money to a mom because the mom wanted to move to be close to the daughter if the mom son was a mid major player. I bet that doesn't happen. It happened because James Wideman was the best prospect his age literally in the world. Okay so that's that's his version But even if you accept the more likely realistic not dumb virgin which is now he was trying to get. James is in high school to play basketball for east high school so he could win a state championship. That still doesn't rise to the level of what these cases usually are in other words. Penny Hardaway was a memphis booster. Yes and he provided money to a mother of of a student athlete. A recruit a student athlete true but it wasn't to get James Wiseman to go to Memphis. It was to get as many go to east high school and so that's unusual. That's not the way these things normally work now. I do think you can start to connect some dots here. Because Penny has said that he had no idea when he provided that money to James Wiseman and it allowed to move to Memphis. He had no idea that he was going to be Memphis head coach in one day recruit James. Listen to Memphis and I can't tell you what he had hit so I can't say that's is not true. I can just tell you that. I had an idea that he would be the head coach Memphis in fact on the day. James Wiseman moved to Memphis. I said this is why. You've got fire W. Smith after this season in higher penny hardaway it because if you wait another season as minority be signed to Kentucky but if you do it after this season after James's junior year of high school then at some point either before or during his senior year of High School Penny Hardaway could bring him and the other players that ever relationships with to the University of Memphis so it penny didn't have any idea it was going to happen. That's fine but I had a very clear idea. That not only should happen that it probably could and it actually did so. Oh I do think you can reasonably say and it was interesting because the incident late term this a recruiting inducements and I think you can reasonably caught a recruiting inducement. And here's how the eleven thousand five hundred dollars that went to wise. Mother is what led to him being east high school and him being at East High School at at least contributed to Penny Hardaway. Getting the job and I don't think there's any way to intelligently argue that that financial commitment mid-may that he made to the family didn't help him. Recruit James Wiseman to the university Memphis. I I don't WanNa go on off like ten minute tangent but like. How many degrees breeze removed is that from Mike Boynton hiring Kenan Cunningham to his staff geographic advantage in addition to a familiar one or USC doing the same thing? With the Mobley's you're providing a financial opportunity for the family to be closer to a geographic region. Now that's legal. I have no problem with them. Hiring you're like what like how many degrees separated really from all of that. No listen I'm with you know doing what Penny Wise Men's mother to get. Get James Wiseman eight really that much different than when I say it's less I think it's I don't think I think it's less offensive. Well here's here's the thing. Whatever were you think's offensive not offensive? I got here's the problem. One is allowed. The other is not answering. Wanted to boil down to that. That's what it's always going to boil down to and if you want to change the roles I've said it a million times. Put me in charge. GimMe all the power. I'll change all the roost rules tomorrow. But the rules are the rules as long as they're in place and what might Boynton I did is allowed. And what Penny Hardaway did is not allowed and it really is simple as that you can hate the instable a all you want. I Hate I'm too but this is an undeniable violation and when Memphis started down the path that started it created additional problems that they did not I need to create. I got two more things on this and then I'm pretty good for this podcast. One it is interesting to to look back because we had offline conversations precisions about this You know Weisman doesn't play on their trip to the Bahamas. This and that is the injured. Whatever I mean? That's just a joke. In retrospect retrospect like there was obviously some noise around this. Here's what I WANNA know though. Here's the story wiseman gets cleared in. May what was was the thing that just got this all going again. Was it someone else that tipped off the instable. A you know an outside entity was at at the incident delayed. Just Oh let me check this paperwork again. WAS IT MEMPHIS ON. Its own which. I don't really think that was possible so to me. That's that's the unknown that I that I would let me let me let me answer that quick because the idea that the incidentally cleared him and then just decided to not clear. Ram Is something that the Memphis fan base has held onto tightly where that originates from. That idea is the lawsuit that complaint that Wise Men's attorney filed in court but the incident has never said that in the University of Memphis has never said that nobody confess has ever said they just changed their mind. That's what the complaint suggested from Wise Men's attorney and I don't know much about complaints complaints but they can say whatever they want of course so we just because it's in that doesn't make it true and I think it's interesting. That Memphis has never once said that. Honestly if if you're memphis and you feel like you're being wronged wouldn't the first thing you say. Would it be the instable looked into this. We were transparent from the jump. We told them about the money. They told us it was cool. Nothing changed and then they change their mind on the opening day of the season. If that's really what happened. Wouldn't they would that be the first thinks. Stand up and say I feel like Penny Hardaway says that I feel like Penny Hardaway said that was some coded language on multiple occasions though so I feel nobody's buddies. Put that direct. What what what is more likely is that something came on a maybe? Maybe it's as simple simple as a different interpretation of what actually happened but the idea that they just changed their mind for. No reason is yeah. I don't think that happened. Yeah Yeah and the other thing is just because you are key. Players are are declared ineligible retroactively all the time players are cleared and then not cleared later all the time when something comes up chase young was once upon a time clear and then something came up and they had an issue Hugh Silvio Sosa once upon a time cleared. PJ HAIRSTON Fed win. Just because you were clear doesn't mean you're cleared forever if something if something Rises to the level of of interest with the instability or your own compliance department. You deal with that in real time. I've never spent much time on. They cleared him in May. Hey makes for a great story but they cleared him in May doesn't mean that that these stuffed and actually happen and that you weren't going to have to deal with it when they told you on the opening day of the season. This is something you're going to have to deal with. Last thought is on on the games to come without Weisman here. The selection committee will have an interesting case faced with Memphis here because if it loses games you still get docked for losing but if they look you know they look be level without wise men and then a level with him We'll obviously talk about this on multiple. PODCASTS we get down the road late in the season but just for the Memphis ends out there like you know if you got you. Don't have them for another other. You know eleven games here and if you go seven and four in those games and then you lose like three other games total of the rest of the season with wiseman it's not like those four losses. Don't count against you they will. It's just going to be up for interpretation for the committee to say how much they want a Docu or don't want a Docu but within the context of the season like this is is a significant thing in terms of how how Memphis can Can navigate it schedule and what kind of see two can alternately get. I still think that it's a an incidentally tournament level team without Weisman but not nearly the level. Obviously that it is with them. So that'll be something intriguing to watch going forward As we speak here Memphis was in a close game against little rock at literally as we recording the PODCAST And they are pulled away to the point that they're going to win so they're gonNA move to foreign. One here in. The next game will be at home. Saturday against Ole miss and we will We'll chat Eh. I'm sure in addition to a few games on. Hello we got one more podcast coming for you. You're gonNA love this week. That will get to on the Friday. pod shouts to Devon Danny shells has to test South Carolina chefs to Terry Teagle. He's a legend. Please go subscribe at the College Basketball Podcast via apple podcast. That's the best way to ensure you get the latest episodes in your phone okay S.. AP So go do that and we will talk to you again on Friday till then take care. Fantasy football season is in full swing. So.
NCAA rules Memphis freshman James Wiseman ineligible for 12 games
"Never convince me that penny hardaway a was just by cannon out money to a mom because the mom wanted to move to be close to the daughter if the mom son was a mid major player. I bet that doesn't happen. It happened because James Wideman was the best prospect his age literally in the world. Okay so that's that's his version But even if you accept the more likely realistic not dumb virgin which is now he was trying to get. James is in high school to play basketball for east high school so he could win a state championship. That still doesn't rise to the level of what these cases usually are in other words. Penny Hardaway was a memphis booster. Yes and he provided money to a mother of of a student athlete. A recruit a student athlete true but it wasn't to get James Wiseman to go to Memphis. It was to get as many go to east high school and so that's unusual. That's not the way these things normally work now. I do think you can start to connect some dots here. Because Penny has said that he had no idea when he provided that money to James Wiseman and it allowed to move to Memphis. He had no idea that he was going to be Memphis head coach in one day recruit James. Listen to Memphis and I can't tell you what he had hit so I can't say that's is not true. I can just tell you that. I had an idea that he would be the head coach Memphis in fact on the day. James Wiseman moved to Memphis. I said this is why. You've got fire W. Smith after this season in higher penny hardaway it because if you wait another season as minority be signed to Kentucky but if you do it after this season after James's junior year of high school then at some point either before or during his senior year of High School Penny Hardaway could bring him and the other players that ever relationships with to the University of Memphis so it penny didn't have any idea it was going to happen. That's fine but I had a very clear idea. That not only should happen that it probably could and it actually did so. Oh I do think you can reasonably say and it was interesting because the incident late term this a recruiting inducements and I think you can reasonably caught a recruiting inducement. And here's how the eleven thousand five hundred dollars that went to wise. Mother is what led to him being east high school and him being at East High School at at least contributed to Penny Hardaway. Getting the job and I don't think there's any way to intelligently argue that that financial commitment mid-may that he made to the family didn't help him. Recruit James Wiseman to the university Memphis. I I don't WanNa go on off like ten minute tangent but like. How many degrees breeze removed is that from Mike Boynton hiring Kenan Cunningham to his staff geographic advantage in addition to a familiar one or USC doing the same thing? With the Mobley's you're providing a financial opportunity for the family to be closer to a geographic region. Now that's legal. I have no problem with them. Hiring you're like what like how many degrees separated really from all of that. No listen I'm with you know doing what Penny Wise Men's mother to get. Get James Wiseman eight really that much different than when I say it's less I think it's I don't think I think it's less offensive. Well here's here's the thing. Whatever were you think's offensive not offensive? I got here's the problem. One is allowed. The other is not answering. Wanted to boil down to that. That's what it's always going to boil down to and if you want to change the roles I've said it a million times. Put me in charge. GimMe all the power. I'll change all the roost rules tomorrow. But the rules are the rules as long as they're in place and what might Boynton I did is allowed. And what Penny Hardaway did is not allowed and it really is simple as that you can hate the instable a all you want. I Hate I'm too but this is an undeniable violation and when Memphis started down the path that started it created additional problems that they did not I need to create.
"james wiseman" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast
"Site. I'll just one graph real quick if a student athlete misses a payment. The student athlete is not current with his or her repayment plan and is ineligible into he or she becomes current with the terms of the established repayment plan. If a student athlete he competes while not current with an approve repayment plan. The institution is in violation of instability rules and must report that violation to the student athlete. Reinstatement staff and NCWA A secondary enforcement staff. The student athletes eligibility must be reinstated prior to competing. Big Answer to the question. That's out there is wise wiseman is going to at what rate I have no idea because he's eighteen years old and like literally actually pairs. Like how much money do you think. James Wiseman has in a bank account attached to his name right now and like most Americans not much like I'd honestly I bet you two thousand dollars for for a number of reasons but I I I would be highly surprised. Given what James Wiseman has spent the past four years of his life doing and you know like not holding down a thirty hour a week job during his summers I. I don't really think he has all that much money. And so the point. I'm making here is. There might be some repainted planet. He's entering into but the thing is a fricken farce farce because he's not going to be able to donate that eleven five to charity until he leaves Memphis and is able to actually bring a real income so there's sucky iron into this whole thing where he doesn't want to make money doesn't want him to earn money and now it's ineffective finding him eleven thousand five hundred dollars in order for him to get in good standing to come back and replay. The adults have totally failed. The kid here I absolutely hate it and I hope that Memphis can get something back on appeal. I don't know how likely it is. But Damn if he can't get at least two or three games games back for the one and only year. He's GonNa play in college. I think that would be justice. It remains to be seen if Memphis has any shot at winning..
"james wiseman" Discussed on Jalen and Jacoby
"Is your number? ooh It's pretty low Expressed pride. GimMe Thousand Bucks. A- sure they tried it before the game to alcohol that bad alcohol is in Jin loading pieces. It warned no rocks just done pieces now. It's abused it's been distills. Everything was five hundred point. There's something going on with the Minnesota Timberwolves. They're pretty good. Yeah really good. Tell me Andrew Wiggins the much doubted the much criticised Andrew Your wiggins the quote unquote bust. Injury has been balling this year. Look the kids average. I think nineteen points a game now. One of the things in this is what we've always said. I am not A. I'm a big Fan of young players scoring but I'm not a big fan of like saluting young players that score and it doesn't turn into wins Devon Booker right all of those years scoring you know. Yeah that's impressive. I'm impressed with anybody that can score the way Devon Booker can't but now to see translate to wins to now to see what's happening with wiggins so these both of these young players still young. He's only twenty four twenty four years old and the watch. These guys turned that corner and now it's like he's scoring points late in game he's making some other place. That is where I think we get so impatient with young players and like Oh. He's a bus after two or three years in some of them are. It's also like twenty one to say and it's like people are like. What is this two year that Jason Tatum makes jump? And you're like no. He's going to be a far far better player at twenty four twenty two nd twenty six and then at twenty eight so like even if he improves five six percent every single year. And I think that's what we is done but the criticism of wings is not as ability to score. It's kind of his motor and his approach to the game. He always kind of had A. I don't care of course much of us do think that his success is a function of the criticism. Like do you think he hears it all. And he's outside of the top one hundred and he says you know what I'm gonNA prove everybody wrong. Well I hope so. Because he's been criticized for quite a few years. He won rookie of the year. He was doing this. But we've never seen improvement on. His body never changed. He doesn't look like he's gained any weight. So it's like. How hard is he working working in the weight room and again some people have Kevin Durant body? I don't think wiggins necessarily.
"james wiseman" Discussed on Jalen and Jacoby
"Was a game where he hit. Twenty free throws adly fifteen quarter seventeen quarter so I think to get him. Rest is to get him back to that aggressive nature because that's what they're going to need ultimately he is the one advantage that no team can match up. Well with Anthony Davis right you go against. It's the clippers. They got multiple bodies throw at Braun and they can do that all damn night right all different sizes got bodies. Throwing Anthony. Davis is the one that she yeah. I wanted to be your addresses. A little short for him. Good for a lot of years. Brown was always your ace in the hole right. He was always like well. No one's going to be able to stop Bron. Well they have enough body body similar to the warriors did when they were going on their bodies to throw at bronze. So Anthony. Davis is the one guy that you're going to want to be a hundred percent healthy so he can be as aggressive. I'm GonNa say something you won't believe about the NBA. Okay tell me the grizzlies and Hornets game was pretty good. Last night John John Rent continues to this isn't a fluke no night after night. Nightjar ran and finished to like Jaama rant. Not only did. He scored twenty three and had eleven assists. It was it was the the end of the game looked at this is this. Is this allowed the whole team around the rim. It finishes at the last. I did not expect this from him. What have you seen being from John Moran you? Don't he played at a smaller school. You knew his athleticism was there. You knew he could dropped is what you WANNA see it against bigger stronger quicker higher level guys and goes down it but he plays with an excitement and I think when you look in Memphis that crowd that though the community they love some job and so.
Tigers fall on road at Oregon as foul trouble limits Wiseman
"The NCAA chase young suspension from four games. To your thoughts. Penn State Michigan. What suspension pinch? You need to kiss Maryland and rutgers the giants named gate capital their new manager. Is that a good fit. Didn't work that well in Philadelphia. I think he's deserving of one more chance it will Oregon can beat Memphis and James Wiseman last night. Break it down. They gave him wiseman too stupid fouls in the first half only played five minutes of the first half kill fourteen twelve. He looks he looks great. Cy The young south tonight both of them who you got got to Graham again and I think I got Burland over Garrett Cole. We'll since last one. The Knicks loss to the Bulls last night and are now two and nine. You Watch Watch this game why. There's a new Kobe town. WHO's the new Kobe? Kobe white the Chicago. What did you say did not trae young? I missed on Colby White. We're out of time trying to better the next time. I'm Tony Kornheiser Jeff Kobe. I'm Mike Wilbon. Same time tomorrow knuckleheads. You can get the PTI podcast on the APP for Apple podcasts.
Projected No. 1 pick in the 2020 NBA draft James Wiseman has been ruled ineligible, but court rules he can still play
"Breaking news the NC Double A.'s. RULED MEMPHIS big man. James Wiseman possible number one overall pick in twenty twenty ineligible according to his lawyers players. That was Friday when University of Memphis Freshman James Wiseman the number one ranked recruit in the country was ruled ineligible by the NC Double A.. But just hours later Weiser was back in the starting lineup after challenging the governing body in court. It's a risky strategy for WISEMAN IN MEMPHIS because they're aggressive response sponsor. Become the new normal in college. Sports
"james wiseman" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast
"Of the weekend involves one of the biggest names in the sport fourth presumptive number one overall pick of the two thousand twenty NBA draft Memphis Freshman. James Wiseman instable a as you probably heard has inform Memphis that James Wiseman is quote likely in eligible among other things. The school announced Friday. That wise was going to be withheld from competition. Based on a rule interpretation issued by the incident this all being being tied to Penny Hardaway provided the Wiseman family with approximately eleven thousand five hundred dollars for the university called quote moving expenses. That's back when wiseman moved from Nashville. GO TO MEMPHIS in two thousand seventeen at the time. Penny Hardaway was the coach at East High School in Memphis Wiseman he ultimately enrolled at East High School in Memphis and this would be possible. NCWA regardless of the specifics. But what makes it an undeniable. NCWA issue is that in two thousand Seventeen Penny Hardaway was a memphis booster booster according to the way the NCAA defined such thing so what we have here if you destroy all the details away is a memphis. Booster providing a sizable amount of money to a five star. Prospect prospects mother to get the family to move to Memphis and then that five star prospect enrolled at the University of Memphis. There's just no logical way to argue. That's not against NCWA NCWA rules in Memphis again. Prepared to withhold. James Wiseman from competition as early as Friday afternoon. That's where we were. Why has been on the verge being held out of games but then later Friday afternoon wiseman and his attorney Leslie balanced went to court and got a temporary restraining order in Memphis in decided to allow wise men to play in Friday night's game against Illinois Chicago and for what it's worth Penny Hardaway is on record? He has said James Wiseman will continue to play next against Oregon important on on Tuesday night. Now some have suggested that the temporary restraining order force Memphis to play WII. That's just not true. No court can force a school or a coach to play a player. Even when as is good as James Wiseman Memphis simply opted to play James Wiseman for better or worse they bold move for many reasons it could lead to the Tigers first two games and any other Games Games wiseman plays in being vacated it could also lead to bigger instable issues because in the instabilities is Memphis is right now knowingly using a player it has been told hold is quote likely in eligible. So there's a lot to unpack here. Obviously but let's just start right here in Orlando what you think of Memphis is decision to play. James Wiseman under these circumstances because it is definitely not how schools typically handle these types of situations. I Love Memphis decision to play him. Because it makes for a fascinating standoff here. I Hate Memphis decision to play. Play him because my issue with this story. Perish is the institutions that have failed James Wiseman and how how he is likely to be on the wrong end of this and essentially serving as the only victim of this perhaps the Memphis program. I'm at large you know not having James Wiseman at some point in perpetuity for the remainder of the season. If we get to that point its final. Four hopes certainly take a masset but why why isn't who is trying to become the number of picking the two thousand twenty. NBA draft to be able to play for his adopted opted hometown. And here's my problem and take this where you may take it okay. Penny Hardaway becomes a booster twelve twelve years ago when the his Alma Mater ops to build hall of fame wing and his name and he is obviously a key part of that. I get all that okay. Now when that my issues intention here when that happens Penny Hardaway becomes booster. James Wiseman is there's no even real. I thought that who ever played college basketball. That point seven eight years old so then Penny Hardaway eventually gets into the coaching business. And it's been well documented community many places as to why he became a coach. That's actually a very inspirational ernest kind of story. At the grassroots level and at the high school level then James James Wiseman develops into a number one type prospect in his class wild playing on the other side of the same but while playing in Nashville so the family is moved from Nashville to Memphis. For a number of reasons. You can be cynical about it and I would encourage that But one of them Apparently because Weisman sister attended the University of Memphis Penny Hardaway agrees to help pay the moving fees as a side note It does not cost eleven thousand dollars to move all your stuff from one place to another. That is an exorbitant amount of money. And I'm sure the particular details as to Penny Hardaway providing that money what it really went to aside for moving. I'm sure those have been talked about at length and I would assume receipts have been provided. Perhaps they haven't perhaps it's a major major sticking point with this case because that is a significant amount of money we are told James Wiseman is not privy to any of this information. Now the fights against this by saying doesn't matter because and we've talked about you know these kinds of situations overall these overarching situations at Sylvia's okay specifically at Kansas. He was going to be sad for two years for not knowing what was happening and reduced it to just basically essentially once and that's why he's Villa Kansas now but regardless when that happens in two thousand seventeen gene penny hardaway is not even a candidate for the Memphis job. Tubby Smith is coaching. Penny Hardaway's coaching high school in Tennessee. The issue I have with the instability doubly ruling. The way it's ruled here is the circumstances that surrounded all of this. I think are unfairly putting James Wise Men's eligibility ability. I don't even know if I WANNA say up for debate Peres because in the eyes of the it's not for debate in fact does give you an idea via of how pissed off. The instable is in the middle of Memphis game on Friday night. And what a crazy night that was parish was in the studio for. CBS Sports Network. It says is. The University of Memphis was notified. The James Wiseman is likely ineligible. The university chose to play him and ultimately is responsible for ensuring its student. Athletes are eligible to play. That's not a common move. By the way in the midst of these cases the organization's general stance is that. It has no statement on ongoing cases. So whomever whomever cleared that is obviously really ticked off that Weisman and his legal representation. Who for my he's Leslie Ball and I know it's Balan F that he's he's Leslie Isley Baldwin and he's incredible and hoping turned around for Wiseman in the right way? I understand the way the rules are written. I have a problem with all of these circumstances affecting Weisman the way they have and I have an issue with penny and what he may or may not have told MEMPHIS MEMPHIS may or may not have known. Because here's the other deal because because this became an issue in the state of Tennessee and I'm kind of speaking back at this with pairs pairs knows all of this. Obviously he's he's talked about it for two years on his radio. Show the details of of this exact thing. We're known to the point where wiseman actually went to the court to get a restraining order to give him eligible in the first place at the high school level. So what I need to know from the standpoint is when when Wiseman was apparently cleared in May of two thousand nineteen when he still had the option to play wherever he wanted most notably Kentucky. If he wasn't gonNA play at Memphis why was he cleared. What are the what he did not know? Because here's my deal if the NC double A.. New All of this if it knew all live this and cleared him and then someone came back in late. October and said oopsy are bad or by the way we might have just missed this dangling thread on no take backs. Wise Men should not suspended over this if all of the details have been provided and I have to. Eileen I lean to believe that they have given that they went through this at the high school level. That Penny Hardaway given who he he is when Memphis brought him in when they knew his connections to all of these different kinds of players. I cannot believe there would be so much unaccountability laziness oversight on this matter. I have to believe all of this stuff was disclosed. If it wasn't to be clear if this was not disclosed Penny Hardaway knew of this and did not tell his employer employer. Then there's a real case against Weisman as much as it sucks but I am. I am opting to believe that all of this stuff was known and provided I to Memphis this and then theoretically cannot be so stupid not to have realized that the number one player in his class did not have this benefit provided to them. That's why I've got the problem if you told them took them. I'm glad you took it there because this is still a point of confusion as it relates to this specific case because if you read the lawsuit that James Wiseman has filed and certainly talk to people who are arguing that side of it. What they they will tell you is that the incidentally cleared and then they just decided to rolling ineligible just you know new information? They just changed their mind and and that may be true. At least I can't tell you it's not true but what I can tell you is it's definitely not the way Memphis. Explain the situation when it released a statement Friday night. I don't know if you saw that. But the statement the university released reads this way after a joint standard eligibility review by the university and the instable As is common for all high profile incoming student athletes James Wiseman Iceland was declared eligible by the instability in May two thousand nine hundred nine however based on information that necessitated a deeper investigation. The university began to work alongside aside the instability in investigating the matter after several months of interviews and after a review of documentation it was determined that in the summer of two thousand seventeen while Wiseman was a a high school student and Prospective Student Athlete Penny Hardaway provided eleven thousand five hundred dollars in moving expenses to assist the wiseman family in the relocation to Memphis unbeknownst to wisemen end of statement so again the lawsuit suggest that the NC Double A. changed its mind but the university statement doesn't suggest that at all what the incident delayed statement said. I mean what what Memphis statement says is listen. We did the initial eligibility review. Everything was cool. He was eligible but then based on information that necessitated a deeper investigation. So after this happened there was information. Asian that necessitated a deeper investigation and we worked on that and then after several months of interviews and after we review of documentation it was is determined that the summer of that in the summer of two thousand Seventeen Penny Hardaway provided eleven thousand..
Memphis is giving the middle finger to the NCAA over James Wiseman's eligibility
"Of the weekend involves one of the biggest names in the sport fourth presumptive number one overall pick of the two thousand twenty NBA draft Memphis Freshman. James Wiseman instable a as you probably heard has inform Memphis that James Wiseman is quote likely in eligible among other things. The school announced Friday. That wise was going to be withheld from competition. Based on a rule interpretation issued by the incident this all being being tied to Penny Hardaway provided the Wiseman family with approximately eleven thousand five hundred dollars for the university called quote moving expenses. That's back when wiseman moved from Nashville. GO TO MEMPHIS in two thousand seventeen at the time. Penny Hardaway was the coach at East High School in Memphis Wiseman he ultimately enrolled at East High School in Memphis and this would be possible. NCWA regardless of the specifics. But what makes it an undeniable. NCWA issue is that in two thousand Seventeen Penny Hardaway was a memphis booster booster according to the way the NCAA defined such thing so what we have here if you destroy all the details away is a memphis. Booster providing a sizable amount of money to a five star. Prospect prospects mother to get the family to move to Memphis and then that five star prospect enrolled at the University of Memphis. There's just no logical way to argue. That's not against NCWA NCWA rules in Memphis again. Prepared to withhold. James Wiseman from competition as early as Friday afternoon. That's where we were. Why has been on the verge being held out of games but then later Friday afternoon wiseman and his attorney Leslie balanced went to court and got a temporary restraining order in Memphis in decided to allow wise men to play in Friday night's game against Illinois Chicago and for what it's worth Penny Hardaway is on record? He has said James Wiseman will continue to play next against Oregon important on on Tuesday night. Now some have suggested that the temporary restraining order force Memphis to play WII. That's just not true. No court can force a school or a coach to play a player. Even when as is good as James Wiseman Memphis simply opted to play James Wiseman for better or worse they bold move for many reasons it could lead to the Tigers first two games and any other Games Games wiseman plays in being vacated it could also lead to bigger instable issues because in the instabilities is Memphis is right now knowingly using a player it has been told hold is quote likely in eligible. So there's a lot to unpack here. Obviously but let's just start right here in Orlando what you think of Memphis is decision to play. James Wiseman under these circumstances because it is definitely not how schools typically handle these types of situations. I Love Memphis decision to play him. Because it makes for a fascinating standoff here. I Hate Memphis decision to play. Play him because my issue with this story. Perish is the institutions that have failed James Wiseman and how how he is likely to be on the wrong end of this and essentially serving as the only victim of this perhaps the Memphis program. I'm at large you know not having James Wiseman at some point in perpetuity for the remainder of the season. If we get to that point its final. Four hopes certainly take a masset but why why isn't who is trying to become the number of picking the two thousand twenty. NBA draft to be able to play for his adopted opted hometown. And here's my problem and take this where you may take it okay. Penny Hardaway becomes a booster twelve twelve years ago when the his Alma Mater ops to build hall of fame wing and his name and he is obviously a key part of that. I get all that okay. Now when that my issues intention here when that happens Penny Hardaway becomes booster. James Wiseman is there's no even real. I thought that who ever played college basketball. That point seven eight years old so then Penny Hardaway eventually gets into the coaching business. And it's been well documented community many places as to why he became a coach. That's actually a very inspirational ernest kind of story. At the grassroots level and at the high school level then James James Wiseman develops into a number one type prospect in his class wild playing on the other side of the same but while playing in Nashville so the family is moved from Nashville to Memphis. For a number of reasons. You can be cynical about it and I would encourage that But one of them Apparently because Weisman sister attended the University of Memphis Penny Hardaway agrees to help pay the moving fees as a side note It does not cost eleven thousand dollars to move all your stuff from one place to another. That is an exorbitant amount of money. And I'm sure the particular details as to Penny Hardaway providing that money what it really went to aside for moving. I'm sure those have been talked about at length and I would assume receipts have been provided. Perhaps they haven't perhaps it's a major major sticking point with this case because that is a significant amount of money we are told James Wiseman is not privy to any of this information. Now the fights against this by saying doesn't matter because and we've talked about you know these kinds of situations overall these overarching situations at Sylvia's okay specifically at Kansas. He was going to be sad for two years for not knowing what was happening and reduced it to just basically essentially once and that's why he's Villa Kansas now but regardless when that happens in two thousand seventeen gene penny hardaway is not even a candidate for the Memphis job. Tubby Smith is coaching. Penny Hardaway's coaching high school in Tennessee. The issue I have with the instability doubly ruling. The way it's ruled here is the circumstances that surrounded all of this. I think are unfairly putting James Wise Men's eligibility ability. I don't even know if I WANNA say up for debate Peres because in the eyes of the it's not for debate in fact does give you an idea via of how pissed off. The instable is in the middle of Memphis game on Friday night. And what a crazy night that was parish was in the studio for. CBS Sports Network. It says is. The University of Memphis was notified. The James Wiseman is likely ineligible. The university chose to play him and ultimately is responsible for ensuring its student. Athletes are eligible to play. That's not a common move. By the way in the midst of these cases the organization's general stance is that. It has no statement on ongoing cases. So whomever whomever cleared that is obviously really ticked off that Weisman and his legal representation. Who for my he's Leslie Ball and I know it's Balan F that he's he's Leslie Isley Baldwin and he's incredible and hoping turned around for Wiseman in the right way? I understand the way the rules are written. I have a problem with all of these circumstances affecting Weisman the way they have and I have an issue with penny and what he may or may not have told MEMPHIS MEMPHIS may or may not have known. Because here's the other deal because because this became an issue in the state of Tennessee and I'm kind of speaking back at this with pairs pairs knows all of this. Obviously he's he's talked about it for two years on his radio. Show the details of of this exact thing. We're known to the point where wiseman actually went to the court to get a restraining order to give him eligible in the first place at the high school level. So what I need to know from the standpoint is when when Wiseman was apparently cleared in May of two thousand nineteen when he still had the option to play wherever he wanted most notably Kentucky. If he wasn't gonNA play at Memphis why was he cleared. What are the what he did not know? Because here's my deal if the NC double A.. New All of this if it knew all live this and cleared him and then someone came back in late. October and said oopsy are bad or by the way we might have just missed this dangling thread on no take backs. Wise Men should not suspended over this if all of the details have been provided and I have to. Eileen I lean to believe that they have given that they went through this at the high school level. That Penny Hardaway given who he he is when Memphis brought him in when they knew his connections to all of these different kinds of players. I cannot believe there would be so much unaccountability laziness oversight on this matter. I have to believe all of this stuff was disclosed. If it wasn't to be clear if this was not disclosed Penny Hardaway knew of this and did not tell his employer employer. Then there's a real case against Weisman as much as it sucks but I am. I am opting to believe that all of this stuff was known and provided I to Memphis this and then theoretically cannot be so stupid not to have realized that the number one player in his class did not have this benefit provided to them. That's why I've got the problem if you told them took them. I'm glad you took it there because this is still a point of confusion as it relates to this specific case because if you read the lawsuit that James Wiseman has filed and certainly talk to people who are arguing that side of it. What they they will tell you is that the incidentally cleared and then they just decided to rolling ineligible just you know new information? They just changed their mind and and that may be true. At least I can't tell you it's not true but what I can tell you is it's definitely not the way Memphis. Explain the situation when it released a statement Friday night. I don't know if you saw that. But the statement the university released reads this way after a joint standard eligibility review by the university and the instable As is common for all high profile incoming student athletes James Wiseman Iceland was declared eligible by the instability in May two thousand nine hundred nine however based on information that necessitated a deeper investigation. The university began to work alongside aside the instability in investigating the matter after several months of interviews and after a review of documentation it was determined that in the summer of two thousand seventeen while Wiseman was a a high school student and Prospective Student Athlete Penny Hardaway provided eleven thousand five hundred dollars in moving expenses to assist the wiseman family in the relocation to Memphis unbeknownst to wisemen end of statement so again the lawsuit suggest that the NC Double A. changed its mind but the university statement doesn't suggest that at all what the incident delayed statement said. I mean what what Memphis statement says is listen. We did the initial eligibility review. Everything was cool. He was eligible but then based on information that necessitated a deeper investigation. So after this happened there was information. Asian that necessitated a deeper investigation and we worked on that and then after several months of interviews and after we review of documentation it was is determined that the summer of that in the summer of two thousand Seventeen Penny Hardaway provided eleven thousand.
"james wiseman" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"Four two two seven and then what what what needs to be done about situations like chase young and and James Wiseman where the consensus seems to be who cares why is this the thing to me just allow it and regulated I generally that cleans up the the CDS behavior when things are going to happen anyway you're not getting rid of it it's rampant and you just become numb to it because you got wire taps and coaches who is in a different era might be gone and are still in their jobs because the the the general populace doesn't give a damn let's go to Ben in fort worth Texas Ben your up next here on CBS sports radio what's going on but yeah you know if you're gonna pay the kids which is cool you know there were zero extra system the pay the kids but then in turn take away the free tuition that you're giving them and then for some of their social and what they're getting they were getting very well I mean if that's the thing band is it's not really that's not the transactions happening right I I feel like that's just a misconception because we we're we're you're you're putting it through the lens of of a normal person's experience right like if I were going to school and and I got paid for that would've been a big deal it costs a lot of money right but that was the reason I went there the reason I went to to college was to get the education and the experiences that come with the education that was the nature of the the transaction and in these cases when eggs do core Alabama and they're going to these top athletes they're not going to have the kids go to school they're going to get the kids to play for the basketball or the football team so I think it's a little disingenuous to act like the tuition is actually not to say it doesn't have value of course it has value cost money to do it and be nice to get it but it's not the nature of why they're going to the school in the first place on either side our our greet our procedure for this change there are still hundreds of thousand if you're going to that school every year that pay a lot of money to go to those schools and it's not free for them and I'm not changes but are are they generating the revenue that these kids these other kids are are are generating right which is hard but they're still generating revenue from those kids don't train for I mean the kids are playing to go there generating revolutionary around I don't know how there's a sports for me but I'm sure it doesn't I mean it doesn't apparently to at me I think of the one of the problems I have been is that a lot of these schools pass themselves off as these institutions of higher learning when really they're they're big businesses and it's all a racket right like I mean whatever your skin then it fell has worked and she got away from me he can't go for your work two years and the way that they generate money through that it's all a record but I'm just saying like I had to pay for modern and I'm not saying that because the schools benefiting offered her likeness of a shooting at something but I mean make okay something about if they want to get paid to to play a sport and be noticed because the higher the like gets more tension then you know James Madison university so I mean if you want to go to these harder marquee schools in play sports there for the recognition thank you Hey that's cool but now you have to pay something to do that but why would you have to pay something to do that when you're the one generating the Rev that seems backwards to me that doesn't mean that and again that's not even we're talking about with the wise men and with chase young here I mean I think it always goes back to pay the athletes are not like that's a big conversation people like that that's not what's happening here what what's happening here is Jay Sean got alone from somebody that he paid back and penny Hardaway help Wiseman is family move and with the mother I'm sure life expenses they might be I mean in a sense I guess they were getting paid but they weren't in compensated at a regular level that wasn't you know and I I I I think most people most people don't have a problem with that Jim in Columbia South Carolina Jim you're up next year on CBS sports radio what's up Jim how you doing yeah good don't don't come in on the last call you know I I don't think that people realize it the schools are not paying these guys in this situation these got earning this money in a free market based on what their values and like it's an image so it does say that the that they should give up their scholarship because earning money is ridiculous math like say in the kids is working at Pizza Hut I should have to give up his music scholarship because he's making money yeah our school is ridiculous I do think though if if if they are going to earn money online using image and and and because they are the quarterback of X. university then probably the university should get a percentage of the money they bring in simply because they would not be getting that life was like miss an image money if they were not part of the university so I I think there that needs to happen there needs to be some kind of system set up but all your comment originals calling your comment earlier than allergy about the legalization of marijuana and and how it's regulated now and and perhaps that's what should happen here you know I've got some friends that I have talked to that are in the business and you know one of the things that they said is that the regulation and the licensing and all of the fees and and things that they have to pay that they're not making the money there that you could make in that business so what's happening now is you're having guys do it illegally and then there might get more money because you know the guys are going to the White way and now I'm worried that if we go to regulation of this entire regulation of this we're going to see the return of the bag and you know and they're going to be even more prominent in the universities and I have been in the past because you know if if if we regulate what you're able to make a likeness in and is there going to get that money from somewhere is usually going to be the bagman coming back yeah I don't know if there's a perfect solution and I I appreciate your perspective again that's even separate from like there's an image like this image in image is what it is I'm talking about the stuff that already going on which is you know kids getting hit off with loans or or assistance with stuff and that that being from a coach or an agent or shoe company and that's happening so to me in general I I'm a believer in regulating and and allowing those things that you can't prevent I don't know the ins and outs of the the legal marijuana business but from the macro perspective I'm sure on the micro level in the weeds I guess put intended there is there are some issues but from the macro level it seems like it's worked well for the states that have done it same with sports gambling I mean somebody as somebody who resides in New Jersey I I can tell you that the the sports gambling seems to be working really well and that was something that was done you know under the V. boards before and now is above board eight five five two one two four two two seven will keep this conversation going after a sports flash from Peter Schwartz.
"james wiseman" Discussed on WGR 550 Sports Radio
"Brings it Egypt even goes down the right side she just a race to the world cannot go one on one with games while it's not a good look for him college basketball Friday is Memphis cruises to a win over Illinois Chicago Dave lotion from layer field I am G. college Memphis getting seventeen points nine rebounds five blocks from James Wiseman robin is the NC double a says he's not eligible football and basketball issues here ESPN insider Adrian Wojnarowski James Weisman's lawyer in Memphis Leslie ball and you know explain that penny Hardaway in the investigation that has been going on admitted that he helped financially to prove the family from Nashville to Memphis before he was the coach at Memphis he was a high school coaches travel culture the Memphis area and the NCAA is dealing penny Hardaway as a booster remember he played at Memphis he's donated money to the school that makes you a booster under NCAA regulations and penny Hardaway argued that he was not the coach of members didn't know he'd become the coach of Memphis recruit this player and that is about jeopardize Weisman's eligibility up so the NC double a declares Weissman ineligible Memphis then got a temporary restraining order from a judge experts say that's all well and good but ultimately it may not matter which is what made it's surprising as to what happened next as Memphis citing the restraining order played James Wiseman on Friday Memphis does beat you I see ninety two to forty six Weissman seventeen point game en route to the victory so Memphis wins by fifty two they led by fifty two they won by forty six then there's the you you say you get to you what is the unit Utah brought the school scoring record for most points in a game with their ninety four point win over Mississippi valley state the final one.
No. 1 recruit James Wiseman commits to Memphis
"Reporting and the nation's top high school basketball recruit will not be playing at the university of Kentucky seven foot center, James Wiseman committed to Memphis today. Head coach John Calipari. We don't get every kid, and we get the ones we are supposed to get it. Just kind of plays out that way. And it always has wisemen is the second recruit Kentucky has lost to Memphis and new coach Penny Hardaway so
"james wiseman" Discussed on One Shining Podcast with Titus and Tate
"Auburn game. That's already forgot exactly. What's working you're taking the right tone to this whole thing? So there's only about Duke, and they showed Zion on the beach Maui with his shirt off. Yes, I did. See this. You see this? I tweeted someone footage. Now, the question becomes an and I I don't know. This is something to consider is is he fat? Video and the debate rages on is the point. I think I don't know. He was just willing in the ocean. There's one point where he. Excels his stomach tightens. He doesn't look that. When he inhales though, however when he inhales the belly sticks out further than the PECS that feels like a fat. I don't know. It was very interesting. I retweeted it the the footage. And I don't know just it's it's got me very curious because you think people in zion's camp, they think we're going in fashioning did do you think they believe that someone definitely thinks for fashion him seriously? But I don't know if it's someone in his can I think, I don't know. I don't. I don't know what to think about any of it. Here's the number one. Yeah. It's it's one thing if we're doing this because because then the do game starts and they show Zion. Doing Zion things and his fucking shoulders the veins on his shoulders are just popping out. Like, I mean, I I can't tell what popped out further today like zion's veins on his shoulders or Bruce Pearl's nipples. Well, there that's so I'm I'm waiting to do this twenty five in the championship. And then at that point game on, but he's got the vascular arms, but then the belly. Like the. I don't know that this is going to help me for the rest of the next. I don't know. Can we figure that out to answer that question? The question for me would the fab five or Duke if they played each other would a t would one team win and one team lose. Would it be tie? What do you think? Folks, we'd beat him by forty Jalen rose. Here's here's the thing. I want to say, oh, speaking of Jalen world over the place. I tell you know, it's green show. I was so mad Jones Dougie sports radio tweets today. The James Wiseman is making his decision tomorrow. And immediately Kentucky fans know that. This is not look good for Kentucky for those of us. Who are listening to the pod? You don't really know much about what's going on here. James Wiseman number one recruit in the country next year. Sort of was Kentucky, lean probably. Yes. I doubt he's going to go to Kentucky. The penny gets the job of Memphis. He's he's kid is from Memphis. He's tied with penny. So the writing's on the wall the kids go into Memphis. So mad Jones tweets this that the decision is coming tomorrow. Everyone knows it's going to be Memphis and Kentucky fans are in a reply saying like we gotta do some get Tony Barbee outta here. He's not he's not getting the job done recruiting bring back coach. Oh, bring order. That's a good. I work all of. Oh, orlando. What's his name Antigua? Yeah. Yeah. The guy that used to be the then you went to like, southern Florida. I think in the one that helps with towns, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So they're like bring him to the Dominican Republic that John cale period. He told he told Cal what to say when Cal took over the the Dominican job and cows like just read off a sheet. I always cared about Dominican..