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FTP Ep. # 130: NFL Week 5 Waiver Wire Picks

Fantasy Throwdown Podcast

23:11 min | 2 years ago

FTP Ep. # 130: NFL Week 5 Waiver Wire Picks

"Welcome to the fantasy Throwdown podcast. Bringing you the latest sports news, fantasy analysis and opinions. Don't forget the hot takes and have a sports show without heartaches days. What about hotcakes though? I want some hot case. Now, here's your host, ready to jump into the thick of things. Dwayne calendar. Hello, third-down nation. Welcome to another edition of defense. He Throwdown podcast. I'm your host Wayne counter getting right into it for week five waiver wire action going on. So get a number of folks talk about, but I'm gonna lead off here with the running back discussion because once again, Leonard for net has gone down with a hamstring injury and from those of you, listen to my pass rants on wave writer discussion TJ Yeldan should be owned in all leagues. The fact that he's not even close to ninety percent. Ownership is just a sign of bad management in your fantasy leagues. There's no reason why teacher Yeldan should not be at ninety percent ownership by now at this point in the season because the injury risk for net was always there what the hamstring begets. There's always some type of soft tissue. A jury going on with the guy. So again, the fact that TJ Yeldan is less than seventy five percent on most leaks. They've still some leagues out there where he's on free, just say, so you need to grab him. Now he's the number one waiver wire pickup this week, in my opinion. Now let's talk about some other players that need to be added teams Naim Hindes on the Indianapolis Colts. Here's a guy basically under f- I believe he's five eight. They listeners five nine, he looks. He was more than that, but the Colt can't run the football, but in PR leagues Hines is definite. Add the colts are just starting out to them and flat. So you know, in leagues were you? I mean, I would even say half PR. It's still a good grab if you're desperate for flex help or a running back to option and just need to get. To those extra points where receiver, because he is racking up yardage on that. Now, the the thing of it is that he had nine catches for six three yards and two TV's against Houston. Now that's not going to generate across an entire season obviously, but he's getting enough. Wraps in an actual snap counts with the colts that that is not unreasonable to think that he could be someone who can average seven catches a game, the culture thrown them all vol more with Andrew lucked because they realize they can't run. The football luck is at e- add over sixty two attempts on Sunday against the Texans. Obviously, that game went into tea. But realistically he was already over fifty heading over time. So the colts are going to throw the football because the can't run it. Marla MAC, in my opinion is just not so long. We're holding out to that goes double for German Wilkins. I don't. I don't trust either them and Hines has shown three, the better pass catching back over MAC anyway, even if he's healthy. So Hines would be a good ad here my opinion. Nyan, especially with come players on buys of you got Jordan Howard to recall and on by that will be a placement player for you. Couple of other folks. Surprisingly, Nick Chubb. I was looking at the numbers, Nick under fifty percent owned in leagues, and I can't understand why unless owners were getting impatient, but the Browns were always looking towards Nick Trump as the running back in the future when they drafted him, you know, the fact that they gave Carl's hide the money. It's just an insurance policy because in the league, you know, teams are not looking to give thirty plus touches two running backs unless you're the Pittsburgh Steelers. Hence the reason why on is still holding out. But job ownership is under fifty percent and leaks couldn't quite figure out why I think is just maybe a case of owners just gaining patient, but Chubb should be bench stashing leagues. Now do I think he's going to have because Hugh Jackson did say that Nick job is gonna get more cares. Before I think is going to be twenty care yet. I highly doubt that I think that would only happen towards the second half of the season because I do think they're, they're trying to limit his touches, which is why they're giving the rock to cross high of far more nearly going so the season. But I do think Chubb is a legitimate play, just do with the rushing ability that he has. I mean, he has all the peripherals that you would want a running back. One is just the fact that you know as a rookie that they're not looking to pound the rock with him immediately. I think teams are kind of learning lesson from what they're seeing, what they're seeing with the Leonard Fornet situation. I know Zeke Zeke and some other continually get the rock, but you know, it is what it is. But segue to that you got is equally at the Cowboys are saying that he's. Dealing with knee and ankle issues. Now, if there's any any chance that Zeke is in danger of missing the game against Houston, Sunday night football, rod Smith must be stashed by Zeki alone. Zeki Elliott owners. There's no getting around it if z casts, and it's going to be good at Tennessee if he's in practice once they or Thursday, because if he's not guess what you have to stash a rod Smith, there's no getting around it. You know, not having Zeke in your lineup is absolute detrimental for Zeke Elliot on or so. Even so my lakes, I'm going to be looking to see what the practices for Elliot, because I've, you know, some leaks. I got enough running back death, but in other leagues. Yeah, it. It's one where you got closely monitor. The situation to see if you're gonna have to pull the trigger on Rodman because even though Smith would be a running back to, he did have a couple of games the last year where he had twelve twelve or more points. I, I would say that you know, you gotta have at least a stable enough lower. If you don't have a ton of bench death, which can happen in certain leaks, but definitely keep monitoring the injury news for Zeke. You'll Elliott because that is development that the essay on top of. So you know, in terms of other guys that you wanna keep in mind? I would mention Ronald Jones to third. I mean, Ronald Jones second rather as a potential replacement player because. Realistically, the Tampa Bay bucks are on by this week, but along with James Winston Jones, the second looks like he's going to be to start going forward Peyton Barbara. Just not getting them less than two two and a half yards a carry. You know, that's just not good enough in the NFL as so Barbara's gonna lose his job, you know, and it's not entirely Barbara's fault that all Tampa, offensive line has not been good at run blocking the entire ear path blocking. Yes, run blocking that nearly as proficient. So Ronald jobs, the second that at least has game-breaking sweet where he can just break a long run off to justify Barbara. Just never possess that type of -bility. So you know, I easily see Tampa Bay going down this route of making a switch along. With because they announced Jim Winston as the starter, I'll get to that in a bit. But I would say a bar Barbara is drop. Well in leagues Jones is definitely bench stash for folks. So moving on because we get through few more folks as well tonight, basically independence, but it's it's a crap, shoot. I'll be perfectly honest. If if folks are trying to replace the value of the got Trey Burton or I mean OJ how just got hurt, but you know, or a camera break in there on by, you know, you're not going to get a whole lot of value just being perfectly outisde at the tight end position or you've you're, you're dealing with the potential gronk missing a game with the ankle issue. You know, the guys to look at would be seeing if Vance McDonald's available in your league. Maybe Jess Swain or Ricky seals Jones. I, I wouldn't kick the tires on Antonio gates. Yes. I know he scored touchdown, but realistically gate is so slow advocate these days that if he gets four targets game, that's a good day in the office. It's just really are forget to get moving around, which is why he was contemplating retirement in the first place, but couple of ideas. I want you to keep in mind for as long term place. You got a Greg Olsen being dropped in a number of leaks. I would say you should keep Olson in mind because so far all reports are saying that his foot recovery time from his foot fracture is Is greatly improved over what was expected. So there's a possibility that. Oh said, could be ready in the next two weeks within the next two weeks. Now Olsen is a top five tight end this year. So realistically, if he's on waiver wire and you have a bench spot vailable grab him and stash. I mean, there's no getting around it. And if you have an i. r. spot all the more reason to stash him. So I definitely keep your eyes bleep field because that's one where sometimes you may get an owner that's not paying attention to their the fact that they have I spots and and just cut them. I mean, realistically, fully take advantage of those folks because that's easy money right there. But yeah, if you got an iron spot, absolutely grab Olsen right now and put them in your IRA spot and you've got some value they're going for for the rest of the season. The other name I wanna throw out there for tight ends though is heathen Hearst. Now I know many of you won't know who the hell Hayden her this, but he was the actual a pig for the Baltimore, Ravens ahead of Lamar Jackson. So for those view for the draft this year, the ravens picked him ahead of Lamar Jackson and trade back into the first round to get Lamar Jackson Hayden. Her is the most dynamic tight end that was picked in the draft according to the draft experts. You know, it's yet to be proven that the would be automatic translating into a star tight end, but peripherals are there good college girds self-care, Carolina? Six, five to forty runs a very good forty time, but. It is a case where he had a fractured foot, and you know, was going to be a set to miss the first couple of games of the season. All the reports out of camp is coming back saying that he could be good to go as early as Sunday. You know, if Hearst is good to go, you know, this is a case where you can do a bench stash on a potential tied an asset in a position that is sorely needed of good, tight ends. I mean, they're few and far between. So if Hearst is even close to the goods that people were ascribing to him early on in training camp, you could have a great bargain basement value there for just a waiver wire pickup because he was my pick for. Deep sleeper for the ravens. And once you get hurt at, you know, John Brown was the alternative. If those of you who listen to sleeper pool picks poll for the podcast, but. Yeah, I would say I, you know, if you're struggling for tight end, you know it can't kill you to grab Hearst of right now and then just wait it out. So if he's inactive, obviously you can drop them again. If you if you need the roster space, you need to start someone. But I mean if he starts well, well, go out, yeah, made their worst things you can do the ravens heavily feature tight ends in their offense. So Mark Andrews and max Williams have definitely benefited from that. Although neither one of them has any differentials to separate from the other. Hearst would be the number one tight end for Baltimore when healthy so they may stir easy him back into it. But you know, in the red zone that has a definite a touchdown, blaming the guy is six, five. So I, I would say Hearst is someone to keep an eye out for and you know, for does v. and really competitive leaks. Maybe you could throw a couple of bucks on. Them in a fab, pick in the go for it that way. If you need to get him on your roster when you need a tight end help so that those are my thoughts for ten position. Let's move onto quarterback because we're getting into a very interesting dilemma here. I, I would say. At quarterback. You know, this is getting a little dicey because we're we're, we're seeing a lot of underproduction from a number of players. I mean, I, I got folks asked me Russell Wilson is dropping people, which is not, but you know, Russell Wilson's underperforming again, Brady Brady, owners panicking. Blake Bortles is being discussed as a high potential waiver wire pick, and you know what? As much as it I make fun of Blake Bortles guess what? He's going up against the Kansas City defense a defense that doesn't play any defense. Guess if you watch the Monday night game, if case keenum could actually throw in out route properly or even a couple of back shoulder throws Denver. For Wednesday game and they win it handily at home case keenum miss multiple throws Monday night, which again makes me highly questioned what what in the world, John Elway Sankei skiing because this is the case keenum we've come to know an expect last year was an aberration, and you know, I'm waiting for that Pat Shurmur offense to help the giants because I haven't seen any of that for the giants this year, but that's another matter. But you know, Bortles should have a good day against Kansas City. So if you need a streaming help, I wouldn't blame you there. But if you're doing a long term play at quarterback, trying to find a quarterback that you need for the rest of the year. James Winston is the ad here. Winston does not have a particularly tough schedule the rest of the way through for Tampa Bay. I mean, he's in the NFC south. None of those teams play any look, the defense outside of Carolina, and even Carolina is a little shaky this year when it comes to the defensive rankings. So again, I don't really see case where you know you can make it for mariota car Trubisky. That's one off game. I mean, Tampa. Secondary was just absolutely abysmal in the first half. But realistically, I'm looking at James Winston and to me for my money, he will be the QB one on the back end for the rest of the year. So if you need help a quarterback, I would say, look at Winston that is a play that you can kind of go off of the rest of the year and keep in mind that you know it is someone that you can play for all of his troubles off the field. Winston can be useful. To you in your fancy lineups on the field. Anyway, moving on to the wide receiver position got a lot of folks on by that would be useful team. So Mike Evans, Sean, Jackson, Allen Robinson all on by as well as Chris Godwin TY Hilton's got a hamstring injury along with wolf fuller, the jazz Gordon FitzGerald, seven Watkins, Randall Cobb, all hamstring injuries. I mean, it's just I, it's getting slim pickings in certain leagues drama. Alice's got a concussion. There's a lot of injuries here the parts through, but if I'm looking at if I need help waiver wire for a wide receivers, I'm going to d. Westbrook you gotta play the match ups here, folks. You know, I'm not a big Westbrook for fan, but guess what can city defense you can score points on them, you know, unless you're case keenum throwing the football, but. You know, Westbrook should have a good day against the chiefs Tae want Taylor is getting more snap counts and Tennessee. That's another option. You can go with KiKi Coutiti. That's an option. You can use Texans, especially we'll Fuller's out. Kuti would slide into his spot and Marquez Valdez Gatling just due to the of injuries on Green Bay. He slides in there for the Packers. If Alison is out with a concussion and cops still can't go with the hamstring, you know, I would say if cobs available in your waivers, grab Cobb and wait it out and then you could most likely you can be able to pivot over to Mark Valberg scant Ling if things don't go well, Saturday, Saturday, Friday, or Saturday with the Packers. Most likely the Packers won't announce anything head of Sunday, but you know. You know, I, I would say, you know, stash cod if you can, if he's available in in the league and then you can make your decision from there. Otherwise, Westbrook would be the play for straight up waiver wires. If you're if you're doing a mid week, so that does it for the waiver wire picks get into the rest of the predictions of during later on during the week, get the Yankees, a game tomorrow night against the as the as announced their starter is actually going to be a relief pitcher. So the as are going to go by maybe bullpen by committee and then maybe used Mike fires as long guy. That should be interesting just because of the fires assist with Mike Stanton, but the as are literally treating this as trying to throw as many different arms of the Yankees. Make sure that they're not comfortable at the plate. So that should be interesting. Than amick because really haven't seen teams go with his bullpen Pam by committee approach to start a game in quite some time. So it'll be interesting. The cubs and Rockies are playing to surprising. Pitcher's duel here. I don't know. I don't know how that comes rocky skins, plain out the cubs offense just looks lifeless, and you know, I know the love. The backstory of this was coming into the amount of games cups have played in the last month and a half with only one off day. I, I don't know. I don't know what major league baseball can do about rain outs early on the season, but you can. You can tell like this cups theme definitely seems tire because their mental mistakes being made in the field. So I think there's a lot going on with the cubs overall as a team. I still think they're going to win this game just because of the fact that the Rockies. Bullpen has blown the most saves in the National League this year. But you know, I definitely feel that this is a case where you got one team in the Rockies that's drinking hot. The cubs have played well down the stretch, give me wrong. They were literally battling walkie for homefield and play offs in in the NFL just yesterday. But you know, I just don't like the signs I'm seeing from the cubs. I think there's a team that's kind of on the ropes at so to speak in terms of health and willpower to kinda get through these matchup. So very curious to see how this one ends, but that's going to do for the show. But hope hopefully you guys get some insight on the waiver wires base off his Intel and gluco with ear matchups the rest of the week, take it easy folks.

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[154] The Jameis debate

Buccaneers Observer

57:19 min | 1 year ago

[154] The Jameis debate

"The water on the Goddamn Huddle. I'll tell you when you get a water break. Welcome to the buccaneers observer. Podcasts Ralph Phillips February Eighteenth Twenty Twenty. What's up all you scalawags special episode for today? We're doing the debate pros and cons. James Winston has if you haven't got enough of this already though this is what we call beating a dead horse. Well what we're GONNA do tonight as we're going to one of us is going to take the side of why we should keep. Jameis Winston with the buccaneers resign hill. The other person is going to take the side of why we should not resign. Jameis Winston We've decided beforehand. That molly is going to do the pro. She's going to be why we should keep Jameis Winston resigning. I am going to be doing the contest. Why we should not keep Jameis Winston and resigning? We have not gone over anything beforehand. And the way we're going to set this up is one person we're gonNA flip a coin. See who goes first. One person whoever goes first gets to give their full argument. Next PERSON GOES GIVES THEIR FULL ARGUMENT. And then we have a lot of time at the end for rebuttals and we will let the audience decide who who was who won the debate. Because he doesn't WanNA listen to a married couple vicar. It's always so uncomfortable with my parents argue. I'm just like Oh and they argue nonstop everything. You can't even say a sentence without dilma nitpicking nitpicking. The semantics in the sentence. It's it's insanity. Casey. Don't get enough of that at home. Were GONNA JUMP RIGHT GUARD? West Abuse for lucky? Why Visa Punches Thrown Ralph my cry now just one you. This is not. This is not a necessarily our opinions. This is my opinion I was GonNa wait till the end to San well. We both actually really thought so. Wait wait till the end of the PODCAST. You'll find out what we each actually thought. And whether it coincides with what we said we're going to be like politicians. They never come clean. Do you have a coin flip now. We broke gotta coins anywhere them again. We gotta a Golden Pocahontas Coin. Here Julia whatever. Hi I'm GONNA flip it. You call it. Her face is going to be heads. Eagles Tales. If if you win you can say if you. WanNa go first or second elected for yes. Sorry yeah call it in their heads. Tails my goodness. All right. All deferral that you get I hang it. We all know that this quarterback class this year especially in free agency is so deep. I don't even WanNa talk about the college free agents because I don't even know any of them. We don't watch college college to drafts. Yeah the drafts drift giraffes so we have a very deep class of free agents that could be replacements for James Now. If we can't resigned Jane is I would take Philip rivers but other than that. There's no one in this free agent class that would necessarily be an upgrade that I think has a realistic chance of coming to the bucks. Tom Brady I. Don't think is going anywhere but doing Glen Derby is. It just came out today that he is staying in the League. I don't know if he's staying with the saints. He soon too. So he's out of there so the next best one is Philip rivers and to me. He's not an upgrade over. James says he's a slightly older James Winston who doesn't have the rapport with the team. And he's got the age on. Jameson. I mean. He's a lot older. They're players Teddy Bridgewater. Who might be a service of a replacement but again doesn't have the rapport with the existing team? That I think is really important. And that sets James Apart. Then as opposed to other quarterbacks there's Marcus Mariota there's chase sanyal case Keenum Chat Henny Drew Stanton Colt McCoy Ryan Hill. Any of the F. No one's an upgrade. No one's better than Jamie's as far as that's concerned aside from the free agents. I'm not a real big fan of drafty. Although we did draft Amos. I'm not a big fan of drafting rookie quarterback's because they're so rarely successful of the forty six drafted since twenty fifteen when James was drafted. Only twenty four actually started last season. Now that is any game whatsoever so if they started one game there on that list fifty two percent of them. The list of the starters is as follows who Marcus? Mariota Jameis Winston. Sean may onion. He started for the Vikings one game. Trevor Simian Jared Goff Carson wentz Jacoby Berthet Dak Prescott Mitch Trubisky Patrick Mahomes Deshaun Watson Baker. Mayfield Sam Darnold Josh. Allen Josh Rosen. Lamar Jackson Mason Rudolph Luke. Falk cuyler Murray Daniel Jones Dwayne Haskins drew. Lock in will greer now. A lot of these are young guys. They haven't started many games there unproven. A lot of these were drafted in the last couple of years so she is good if we look back to three years from now. A lot of these are going to be out. It's just so hard to get one in the draft. That's going to be consistent and really last you. From the two thousand fifteen draft look out for players started in two thousand fifteen. I mean this year in two thousand nine hundred from the twenty fifteen draft. Marcus Mariota didn't finish this season as a starter. Jameis Winston Sean manion. Who Only started one game Trevor Simian? Who Only started one game? So it's very hard to get one. That's going to last in the draft so I'm not certain that we could get a quarterback either in free agency or in the draft that is going to be an upgrade from Janus and there are several reasons for that first of all being with the team since two thousand fifteen he's built a rapport with all these guys. If you look at our offense the roster here all the players that we've acquired since he's been here Rochelle Chris Godwin Oj. Howard Donovan Smith Alex Kappa Alley Marquette Ryan Jensen Pain Barber. Scotty Miller Bershad pyramid. I mean it's our whole offense. Basically that we've built around Jameis Winston and I just don't think plugging in another quarterback that you're going to get the same team and that they're going to have the same report. The Janus has built over the last five years a lot of the players. That are here now. They support him. Of course everyone acknowledges the interceptions are a problem but there are a lot of guys on this team that are behind him. That have publicly said that. They think he can win. That he's got what it takes to win lante quote. I see it in him. I know how great he wanted to be. I love to have him on the field with me. Shaq Barrett. We still believe in him as crazy as it sounds. We know that he can do it like you. See how many yards he had. We know we pass a lot. So you're gonNA have yards in. You're going to get like touchdowns you're GONNA get interceptions too if you pass a lot. It's something he can eliminate an. I know he's going to work to eliminate them but nothing with him changed at all during the year. Just got stronger and better. His believe his leadership like nothing wavered at all ever Chris Godwin. We Love Damon. That's our guy. He did also say to be fair. I'm glad it's not my decision. So full disclosure there Mike Evans said Oh man I mean James and I have been doing this for a while now. We obviously could have had a better season. If I was able to finish it off I feel like our connection is growing each year and he developed a relationship with Chris. Godwin now in connection with C. J. C. G. that we're all going to be deadly now. We're all going to be deadly. We need to be a little more consistent especially me and we can do that tune some things up in the offseason and we'll be fine now. The interceptions were problem. I'm not gonNA say that they weren't but I think that they in overshadow everything that he accomplished this year. He set team records for passing yards passing and rushing yards combined touchdowns. Three Hundred Yard Games passes attempted in completed so he had a phenomenal season as far as quarterback. Oh He's one of the best that we've had and the interceptions this year. I think are not an anomaly. If you look at his career in two thousand fifteen he only had fifteen interceptions twenty sixteen. He had eighteen twenty seventeen. He had eleven twenty eighteen. He had fourteen and twenty nineteen. He had thirty. So I think this is an outlier. The thirty interceptions rather than the new normal. Carson Palmer even said as much because he has the same thing in Bruce Arians system he said. It's a very complicated. It takes a quarterback about a year to get used to that a lot of times. There might be a miscommunication between the quarterback and the receiver and Carson Palmer experienced that in his interceptions. He had a career high in Brazilians First Year. But then next the next year his interceptions went way down. I think they'd perceptions are an issue largely because we're losing. Terry Bradshaw had something similar happen in his career. He had a season where I think he went. Twenty four touchdowns and twenty three interceptions and he said now when made a big deal about it because we won so I think had the bucks finished the season ten and six eleven and five. The interceptions would not have been as much of a focus. I also don't think genius is completely responsible for the results of twenty nineteen again. He had one of his best the best season. He's had aside from the interceptions. Statistically he did great and there were other issues with the team. While I don't think it's an excuse for things like the interceptions and all that there are other factors and it's not just the quarterback that wins. The game are running game again was not where it needed to be. We had injury is on the line. We had injury is with the receivers so I don't think that this the result of twenty nine thousand are completely on. Jamie's Brian Byron Left. Which was play calling for the first year? I think there were some growing pains there with the system and learning this system. I think there were growing pains there between the end the receivers. I don't think it's completely on him and my last point would be about Jameson. Pay There's been rumors that he expects thirty million and it seems a little exorbitant to people but I will say that the top fifteen quarterbacks in that NFL make between eighteen million and thirty six million thirty million is on the high side of that but no matter who we get. Whether we're getting a free agent or resigning. James says we're GONNA have to pay somebody and I just don't think we have any better options than Jameis Winston. There you go. Those are the cons for keeping Jameis Winston for the pro for the pros and cons to me. Well let's think about why we don't WanNA keep Jameis Winston. You brought it up and I'm GonNa make that the first point and this is going to be a threat throughout my whole argument the interceptions now James Wisdom has always been an interception machine even when he was a Florida state. We know that we knew that coming into it. But he's in professional leagues now playing with the big boys. He should be putting a cap on that and he should be getting better every years. Owing fewer interceptions that are not as deadly to the team. Unfortunately it seems to be the other way around throwing thirty interceptions this year. Two Thousand Nineteen was record breaker and it cost us at least three games. There's at least three games you can point to and you can say those. Three interceptions cost us the game. He threw interceptions. The game is over. We lost boom. That's three games right there. But then you look at his whole career. He's got a three point five percent career average for interception rate. It's horrible it's garbage. Last year he had a four point. Eight percent interception rate that is almost unheard of. It's really really bad. He had seven seven pick sixes in two thousand nineteen seven. Now that's an a contract here. That's when he was supposed to show he's trying to prove that he was worth getting another contract being the face of the franchise to get paid a bunch of monning. That's what he did in his contract year. Through seven pick sixes Anna interception rate of four point eight percent. You brought up that Yeah he he does a lot interceptions because we're behind that is correct. He only threw four interceptions while we had the lead last year. That's a two percent interception rate. That's fantastic unfortunately they. Nfl YOU'RE NOT GONNA be in the lead all the time. Nineteen interceptions were thrown. We were behind. That's a five point five percent interception rate. But that's not even the worst bar. The worst part is he had seven interceptions while we were tied. That's an eight point. One percent interception right now. You combine the two being tied or behind through twenty six interceptions for eighty seven point four interception rate. That's unheard of in that. You just can't have. You can't have that because really what that saying is if we're behind there's a good chance. James Wins is GONNA throw interceptions. Only way you can keep. Gemma's wisdom proponent interception is to make sure we have the lead. You don't need a quarterback like that you need quarterbacks. I could get you out of a whole quarterback that can when things go bad they can win game for you not lose it for you. So we'll get back to his interceptions here in a moment but they wanna bring up something out as talk about his character for him. I know this is probably not a good thing to say. But Tim's Swiss and has a long history of being a screw. Just GonNa go through some of the stuff for up quick November twenty. Two Thousand Twelve alone caused nine eleven report that there was a there are two men on a bike path at Florida State University campus. What appears to be a black long barreled pistol. Police respond with their guns drawn as they approached Jameson at his teammate. Chris Casher who was also as roommate at the time and ultimately handcuff them to tell the officer they were shooting at squirrels with a pellet gun. They're released without being charged few hours after the incident on the Bike Path. Winston cashier to other Florida state players. Mario Edwards Kenneth Williams allegedly engaged in a BB pellet gun battle at their apartment house inflicting estimated four thousand dollars in damage management to apartment house declines to press criminal charges after. Fsu ATHLETIC OFF official vows at the players will pay for the damage whether they did or not add note December seventh two thousand twelve. Winston is accused of raping a woman at his off campus apartment. The woman reports the Assault. The police that Bay five weeks later calls a detective and identifies. Winston Azer attacked her after seeing him in a class. Tallahassee police dropped the investigation continuing. The woman has refused to cooperate. Name revive at nine months later and Senate the State Attorney. Willie megs makes conducts. New Investigation would conclude that there is not enough evidence to file criminal charges. Winston's lawyer contents. The sexual encounter was consensual. Us Department of Education later launched a federal investigation schools handling of incident after questions arise about weather. Florida state followed the provision title nine and August. Two thousand fourteen. The school launches an investigation to Windsor Winston. Under the Student Code Conduct July twenty third two thousand thirteen. Winston has accused meaning Burger King and Tallahassee in helping himself to soda from the found machine without paying for it. A restaurant employee later tells police she gave. Winston Cup of water poured the water out and helped themselves to several cups. Ota Despite her objections no charges were filed April. Twenty nine two thousand fourteen. Listen is accused of stealing thirty two dollars. Seventy two cents worth of crab legs from a Tallahassee supermarket. He is given a civil citation allows him to perform community service and is suspended from. Fsu BASEBALL TEAM UNTIL HE COMPLETES THAT. Work Winston tells police that he quote forgot to pay for the crab legs and publicly apologize is may twentieth two thousand fourteen. Wizard is expected of code of conduct. Hearing for Chris cashman Ronald Darby to FSU teammates who alleged the witness portion of the sexual carrying involving the quarterback of the woman accused him of rape. They're both accused of filing school rules. Winston does not show up for the hearing and his lawyer contends that no one from the school ever asked him to be there something that is disputed by attorneys involved in the process however F. as officials later acknowledged that they have no way to force a witness to a code of conduct hearing September sixteenth. Two Thousand Fourteen Winston and seen by several students jumping up on a table on campus screaming a sexually charged explicit laced phrase made popular on the Internet. Fsu Hint football coach. Jimbo Fisher suspense wisdom for the first half of teams upcoming game with Clinton Clemson. School officials vowed that he will be subject to internal discipline must likely school's code of conduct. Winston apologizes October. Thirteen limit catch member October. Thirteen two thousand fourteen. Espn reports and FSU's compliance department is investigating whether Winston accepted money in exchange for autographs the university's Athletic Director Issues. A statement on October seventeen explaining that the compliance staff looking into whether Jameis Winston accepted unauthorized benefits autograph has no information indicating that he accepted. Payments were items reported to bear his signature thereby comprising compromising have asked Athletics March two thousand sixteen in Scottsdale Arizona. Uber driver accused Davis of grabbing her crotch wisdom was suspended three games and then fell is with the Tampa Bay buccaneers to start the two thousand eighteen season February two thousand seventeen at Melrose Elementary School in Saint Petersburg Florida talking to third fourth and fifth grade students. Winston said quote all my young voice. Stand up the ladies. Sit Down but all my boys stand up. We strong right strong. We strong right all my boys. Tell me one time I can do anything I put my mind to now. A lot of boys are supposed to be saw smoking. You know what I'm saying one day y'all GonNa have a very deep voice like this one day you'll have a very very deep voice but the ladies they're supposed to be silent polite gentle my men. My man are supposed to be strong. I want you to tell me what third rule of life is. I can do anything. I'll put my mind to screaming in quote just became a national media story mainly due because the strong feminist movement and the me too movement that was going on at the time November. Seven two thousand. Seventeen Mike Evans. The illegal receiver May buccaneers was suspended for shoving saints quarterback Marshon Lattimore after Winston lattimore causing a shop by lattimore against Winston Evans retaliated against Lattimore and caused him to get suspending. Winston was pulled from that game due to injuries and was out for the next two games. Now December twenty four th two thousand. Seventeen Winston Against Carolina had to be dragged off the field yelling at Ralph's over a fumble then ran back on the field while the Carolina offense was on the field when he ran out on the field. He knocked over a buck. Nears official who state people decide line and Winston had to be pulled off the field again by his teammates. Now say all that not necessarily say that wins the bad guy or that any of this stuff is true or means he should be in the NFL or anything of that. It's just going to show to me. Vat Winston gets away with stuff. He gets away with things. He's the first draft first pick in the draft. He's now getting millions of dollars to play in the NFL. He's done a lot of stuff. That would get a lot of people into a lot of trouble but he seems to get out of it relatively unscathed now. Winston has started seventy of eighty bucks near Games in five seasons. He has missed ten games in five seasons due to injuries. Suspensions and poor performance that comes out to thirteen percent of buccaneers games. James Winston has missed some of those due to behavior issues so James. Winston is getting a lot of money. He seems to be able to do things that most people can't do. And he doesn't seem to give in trouble form a whole lot The lad more experience was one thing he pushed lattimore. Landlord turns around push handles. Mike Evans comes blazed in take up for his quarterback Mike Gavin get suspended. It just seems like a Winston has a long track record of doing stupid stuff and never really having to pay the consequences for them. Now Bruce Arians claims. He is a coach of accountability. I do not see how it will be possible for. Bruce Arians to allow a quarterback who has thrown thirty interceptions. Who HAS LOST US game? Lost us at least three games. We say that without any question lost us at least three games handedly. They were windfall. Lost us at least three games. Thirty interceptions how he cannot hold James Winston accountable for those things. I do not see how that would be a good thing to do. This would be folly right in Jameis Winston behavior issues if we reward hill for doing dumb stuff. Also we're looking at paying Jameis Winston. A Memento twenty six million dollars probably like the minimum. That's we get by with a good contract. That's expensive for a gunslinger has only one winning season in the NFL. And No playoff appearances. His winning season came in two thousand sixteen. He was nine seven. It's not like he's tearing it up. The Bucks are twenty eight forty two with Winston Honor Center. That's absolutely horrible. Reports are that Winston is seeking a thirty million dollars a year. That's way too much money to pay for somebody who has never sniffed the playoffs. He got paid twenty one million dollars in two thousand nineteen with the bucks being up his fifth year option. It was a show me year and he showed us. I'd hate to see what it would look like. If he gets paid thirty million dollars he'll probably give us forty intercessions it. Two Thousand Nineteen opponent scored one hundred twelve points off. Winstons turnovers one hundred twelve points. That's more than most team score all year battle it. That's what opponents scored just off. Winstons turnovers like I said he seven six. Pick six alone at the coach right. They're almost now whether we like it or not Jameis. Winston is the leader of this franchise teams mold themselves in the habits of their leaders whether they do it consciously or subconsciously an. I don't really particularly want a team filled with guys that make great plays great stats. But don't pull through when it counts. And they make huge mistakes. Never have to pay the price for to me. That's what Jameis Winston brings us a leader. It almost seems as though Jameson is more concerned with acting like he can handle the losing. Then he's concerned with Ashley not losing get into some of his performance issues on the field. James Wizard does not read the field. If you watched any videos I show almost every game. There's multiple instances where he does not see wide open receivers. He just doesn't even see them. And that has got to be frustrating. Not only to the coaching staff. But to the receivers who get open. He makes too many poor decisions. Most of his interceptions were bad decisions. If you watch the breakdown did evolve as interception for two nine two thousand nineteen plainly. Obvious that he just makes a lot of bad decisions he runs outside the pocket to Monte gets happy feet I think he was sacked forty seven times years like that or the ridiculous amount. A lot of those were due to him running into pressure now. We've got a lot of people on this team that I really really like. And they're going to cost us a lot of money to re-sign Shaq Barrett Jason Pierre Paul Goals thin sharp param. You know. There's there's a whole list of people that we we. I would really like a C- comeback all of them to be honest with you. All of them James Wisdom if he gets a thirty million dollar contract we are not going to be able to sign everybody. If you read a Jameis Winston and we get a cheap free agent or draft a quarterback we'll be able to keep everybody on this team except Jameis Winston so we're looking at keeping James Wisden losing a couple of good players or eject and Jameis Winston keeping everybody now. Wisdom does not seem to have developed at all if you ask me since he his rookie year to now he looks like the same guys still same quarterback making the same mistakes when he was a rookie. I mean he's the worst quarterback to ever throw five thousand yards in a season. I think is what seven eight quarterbacks have done it in the NFL. James twisted his aunt among he is the top. He's the bottom of top. Now we talk about drafting a quarterback and how much of a crap shoot it is. It's not with Bruce. Arians every rookie quarterback Bruce Arians has ever drafted has gone on to be elite level. Quarterbacks were talking about Andrew. Lock Ben Rothlisberger. He's just. He's got away with drafting quarterback in fashioning rookie quarterback's his he was brought here. He says in large part because he thought he could develop Jameis Winston. I don't know if he feels that way now. Especially if you see his press conferences. He's counted down on Jason especially after that last interception that in the season. We know that Bruce. Arians can develop rookie quarterbacks and he had a hand in drafting deciding to draft Andrew. Luck and Ben Rothlisberger. So the guy knows what he's looking for if areas handpicked a rookie quarterback. I think it would be a smart move and this is the only opportunity we're going to do this. Keeping Winston another year on a franchise tag means we could be prolonging the agony and we could also run areas. Outta town. Doing them for the bucks. Are well geared for a rookie quarterback. I mean we got a talented wide receiver. Core good tight ends and established line and a really good monsters defense. That's what a rookie quarterback needs. Winston had that when he came here and might hurt his development. But we've got it now. It'd be the perfect time to have a rookie quarterback come in to fill those shoes now. I brought up the whole stuff about James Winstons character. Not because I want to say that he's a bad player should be in the NFL Blah Blah by any of that mess is because of this out of thousands of injuries. Thirty two kids were chosen aware their favorite players. Football Jersey run out onto the field and had a super bowl. Fifty four in Miami We had a guy in Saint Petersburg named Eric. The boy was chosen to go out there and do that when asked what his favorite player was. He chose Shaquille Barrett's Jersey with Tampa Bay buccaneers Shaquille Barrett is bringing fans to the buccaneers. People like him. They liked it. He performs well on the field like his character by like his personality. He's not a troublemaker. You cannot say that about Jameis Winston. I'm here Dame suisses quarterback for five years biscuit decides to go out and check Barrett's Jersey's only been here for a year I mean that's not a testament that's more of a testament to how good check Barrett is than it is the James Wisdom but Jamie's Winston is not the kind of player that's going to bring people to the buccaneers. He's exciting to watch. But it's mainly the same reason why watching a car wreck is exciting to watch Anytime I talk about football with strangers I tell them about booking. Here's fans always have to defend wisdom always every single time that's the first thing they bring up and it never fails that they bring him up in a negative light. Nobody ever goes all Jameis Winston and I really like him. He's a good quarterback God bubba. It's always man. What are you going to do with this guy? He's A. I don't like him because of his past behavior. Whatever Winston is not bringing phase of the buccaneers fan base needs causing fans to have to defend their fandom. That gets exhausting. But it's not just new fans that wisden's hurting. He's divided the fan base. He's divided this fan base right down the middle like no player ever seen there are people that can't stand. Winston and there are people that you know they back West. Of course I think the wisdom backers are being much more quiet now because of the performance this year but there is a division. They're in you. Don't want that in your own fan base with all that being said. We're GONNA wrap this up. Here's my number. One BIGGEST ARGUMENT IS WHY. I think we should not recite Jameis Winston. This question was posed to us by somebody on twitter and it is stuck in my craw ever since but is do. We think that we could make a run to the playoffs with Jameis Winston at quarterback and I would have to say no and that's the number one reason I don't think he could string together for five straight games of winning and you know when he gets the playoffs. It's a whole different beast. You have to be on point. You have to be sharp and if your quarterback is not playing his best you're GONNA lose and you're out and I just do not see Jameis Winston making it through the playoffs and to the championship and winning. I just don't see it. I don't I don't think I've ever seen him do four games in a row where he's played well dull now so that's my number one reason for we should not keep James West. They're done. Those are the cons well. I think you've just convinced the whole fan base everything. Well done Ralph know. I hope you're happy. You got some rebuttals over here. Good idea can we talk to you man conversation? She's already man until this is going to be off a fight after we can got your APP and everything. Let's go with interceptions for us. Because that's what you started with just going chronological order for my five pages of notes. She chooses right. I could see the pin. Was Taylor. Okay so the interceptions not the only thing costing US Games true we the kicking. That's true defense at times. So yes interceptions three games but how many were also on the kicker three two for sure okay so between Janus Winston Jameis Winston. Three Games for the interceptions too with the kicking that accounts for an have one of our losses. I'd say at least four on our secondary before they got their crap together sell again. It's not stamos. It goes back to my point. There were other reasons that we lost besides Damis again. The interceptions wouldn't be an issue if we were winning. We wouldn't be talking about we. We went and say we lost three games. Because the James's Interceptions. No one would give a shit. This is a contract year for JD. Mess and I did expect him to show up a little bit better than he did. However we also had someone in the two thousand eighteen season that was in a contract year that played like absolute garbage that we trashed the whole off season. When he got a contract in that was Donovan Smith and he came into twenty nine thousand nine hundred. A phenomenal season turned it around. Point Molly. That's a good point. The character issues. Most of what you named was when James was in college. How might dumb shit did we all do in college? Yes but the age of eighteen and twenty one we also some railings. Stupid stuff. There were since he's been in the NFL. He has never happened in two thousand fifteen or two thousand six. I don't know he's got. He's got a kid now he's married. That changes you. It does change him to now. There were two things on the field where you said the one at the Carolina Panthers game where he was arguing with the rough and went on the field came back. And then the fight. That Guy Mike Evans suspended to me. I don't have an issue with those. I like the passion on the field and character issues off the field. I just don't give a crap about as we've talked about before. They have no bearing on what happens on the field. I think it's a fair point what you were saying with the accountability. How can Brasilia's not hold him accountable for these thirty interceptions? Yeah we'RE GONNA give him thirty million dollars a balance somewhere in that area after doing that. It's just like oh my gosh. So the that. That's a hartfield swallow. If you're preaching accountability right but it was with Donovan to write. And you're preaching accountability by there's no other way to hold him accountable other than firing him. And is that really as far as you? WanNa take it if you're a BA. If you're decent light if you're thinking about the future of the franchise the salary is a big number but unfortunately the salaries in the NFL are dictated by the market. They're not dictated by windsor losses. Necessarily so the blocks are kind of between a rock and hard place as far as that goes because there is a range where demons is expecting. What's reasonable in the market? And what he could probably get with another team you know he's probably going to get. I mean he's going to get twenty six dollars minimal. I mean there's no getting around that he probably would get thirty million dollars at another team. Took the Cleveland or jets. Well he's dumb or the panthers who knows what's going on but the price is also maybe driven down because of how many free agents are that's true that's market could fluctuate downward no way. This is a bad year to be to be a quarterback free agency. I think right and I think in that way. The buccaneers have a little more leverage over Dima opponent scored one hundred twelve points off of turnovers and we still won seven games. Wow reading the field. James obviously has issues with that. That's been a knock on him that you've said for years but he plays this year so we might as well try out those new evolve. If we signed a new quarterback to replace Jamie's who's to say that they won't have interception problems as well. It is a hallmark updated Winston. I'm not saying that but it is also a hallmark of this offense. So who's to say that a new quarterback would do any better in that regard? You draft a rookie. Quarterback put him in areas offense first year. Fill a lot of inter central or even a player like Philip rivers who he's interception prone to room told the crap on interceptions. Jameson is a very polarizing figure in the fan base but I think through the NFL. Overall two points I would make about. I don't know if it's unique to our fan base but it does seem that we have these divisive figures that people tend to be on one side of the other one player that comes to mind is or former. Buccaneer is Greg Chano. That one was a mess so I don't know if it's necessarily jamison or a nature of an NFL fan base or versus the Tampa or Tampa Bay. One of the things with James Winston wildly fan base hates him or herself part of the fan base. Because he's from Florida State University. You know a Lotta. These people down in Florida are fans of Miami or You know some of the other Florida teams down there and they can't stand for two State University so anybody to come forward State University. They're going to dislike right and it seems to me that most. Nfl quarterback has have a large contingent of fans that hate them. Like if you look at Tom Brady. There's lots of people that hate him. Ben Rothlisberger Rape List Burger Jerry. I mean Aaron Rodgers. Their quarterback tend to be very divisive. So I don't think it's unique to dame's Winston necessarily the character issue also Jameis. Winston is not the first quarterback to be accused of having character issues again. Ben Rothlisberger Peyton. Manning even was accused of sexual misconduct by personal trainer. I mean everybody. I think it is the nature of the beast for those to come out as an NFL. Quarterback you're under increased scrutiny. So people look for that stuff. And lastly the playoff issue is a tricky one. Because you really do never know you just never know but it could go either way. I would just like to C. J. Mess. Get us that far and then try them out in the playoffs and see what happens. I mean you can get a phenomenal quarterback that does great in the regular season. And then they get to the play offs. And I'm looking at you Matt Ryan. I mean there are so many that just choke in the playoffs offs. So what if? What if we have a quarterback that choke in the regular season and then played out the plaster a totally different beast? And you're GonNa you know the the Referees Act Different You know the atmosphere's different players played different. Everything's different so it could. You're you're right it could be. James was my go out there and that might be his bread and butter just being in the playoffs. Then again you know. We saw him in the championship. Yes and college steamship and he did not perform garbage. What was like five and a reception for regular feature all right so I got a couple? Just a few rebuttals for you. You talked about the rookie. Quarterback says basically a crap shoot. You called out some names. There were three names in there in particular that I I would like to point out. Patrick Mahomes Lamar Jackson Carson wentz. Now you know they're crap. Shoot US then you didn't you never know what you're GonNa get but when you do hit on one. You're looking at Super Bowl you know. You're you're looking at a long time of having. Very good quarterback does get you a lot of championships. And I think those three quarterbacks well too many are going to rack up multiple super bowls but the big thing with those three is that they do not lose games. You know the team might lose but those three guys are not going to lose you games. If anything though manage game you know they might play bad at Angel Lucifer you whereas with Winston he will lose you games at least three year. It seems like and if you have a team that is good. You just need a quarterback that is not going lose game you know basically a gay managers nice to have to Lamar Jackson. The Patch mahomes get car wits. You know or a Jerk off you know these guys. I could not make a lot of mistakes. Then you can go to the Super Bowl win or at least go. I've always said this is back to the whole playoff stuff again. It's much better to never go to the Super Bowl than to go to the Super Bowl and lose. Buccaneer fans have never experienced that. But I've known a lot of fans that have it's not good and the teams that go to the Super Bowl and lose rarely rally rally make it back within like a decade. It's just it's a kick in the nuts and It it's just a the got the super bowl hangover or whatever you WANNA call super bowl curse. It's just really hard to get back. It's embarrassing especially if you lose. Lincoln landed twenty three Blah. So you WanNa quarterback that when you get to the Super Bowl you're gonNA win second point. Yes the offense has been built around Jameis Winston. We've got excellent players. We've got Michael Evans. We've got Chris Dodd when we've got jar paramount we've got whose logo Scott Miller like. Oh you know we got the good offense line. I think they're above average. People argue about tablet. I mean they're not the best in the world but you know they're they're pretty decent the stable now and we've got these all these guys have been drafted brought in to help James Wisden. Unfortunately I feel like what he's bought them like Mike Evans stardom to lose. And we're losing franchise and more just continuing to lose lose lose even though we've got these super weapons man we got this super defence. We should not be losing and we are and I think. That's you know leadership. I think Winston has something to do with that you know just the mentality of like I said earlier. It's like he's more proud of the fact that he can lose and not let it bother him than not losing in the first place. I would argue that. We were losing before Jana Scott here. This is true. Yeah it's losing culture in Tampa Bay. You know something that US fans have to get over and it's hard it's hard you know starts with us. You know the the the coach I think he's you know he come. And he doesn't have his guy. Bruce Arians does not lose. He's he's had what he's been in the. Nfl for was thirty years and he's had like two losing seasons something like that. I came back in our podcast. We did all the stance he hasn't had lot losing season. The guy just doesn't know what lose means. Now here it is. He's facing a city. A Fan base a team ownership everything that just reached on how to win. You got loser mentalities so it's the harder hill to climb. There's our rebuttals. Now what do you really think this is this is? This is talk that we did this. Pros and cons because We wanted to basically just get the argument out there for everybody and come up with this much stuff as we could to cover both sides of it but what are you really what you really feel people point to the interceptions because it is a tangible it albeit it's a very noticeable tangible but it's not the only thing they're people like the numbers because they can point to this and going. This is why we lose. I just don't think that the interceptions are the full story. I don't think that they should define James says. I don't think that they should define his season last year because he did so much more. There's more to him than the interceptions. And it's an anomaly. It was an anomaly last year. I do think it will get better. It's an outlier in. I think that consistency is so important. We have lacked that for so long so long. And I just don't feel like continuing to try to put pieces in is GonNa work. It hasn't worked thus far. It's not fantasy football. You can't just take one player that you feel needs to be upgraded and put another one in that you think is better and expect the whole system to be fix. It just doesn't work that way. There's too many variables so to me. The devil that you know is better than the devil that you don't know we know what we're getting. Jameis Winston and I think be a with continuing to work with him and Byron left which being involved as well they can figure out a way to mitigate those interceptions. I agree I know I was the Khan argument. But I don't want Jameis Winston. Gone I would love to see him. Stay the biggest issue I have is the money you know. If we keep Jameis Winston have to get rid of probably two really good players just to keep Jameis Winston and. There's nobody nobody on this team. I WanNa get rid of me. Nobody is a really good team. I like everybody on the team. I like our backups special defense live Taco and all those guys not not you talk out is when I go to Vicki restaurant. I don't know the dip between BURRITO TACO or nothing. It's just horrible. Yeah I don't WanNa get rid of anybody man and you know if you were to ask me if you were to come up to me right now and say okay. We're going to get rid of Jameis Winston and keep everybody else on the team or we're going to keep Jameis Winston and get rid of JP. And Nacho I would have a really hard time with that. I don't think I could do it. I think I'd say Ramos but again like you brought up. It's the devil you know we know James Watson House and I do believe he's going to get better and I'm really excited. That he got Lazic and I mean I think he's. He's probably known he's had vision problems. But you can't get lake until you're like twenty five or so at least I don't get it you know you don't want to get any type of is surgery before you're basically stopped growing and prescription has to be stable so now you know. James Wisdom might be a totally new quarterback. We know the guy. Could Sling Rock. You know we know he's a gunslinger. We know he wants to win. You know that's what that's the thing that turned me on about Davis was good when we first drafted him. I was like Oh my gosh. This guy. 'cause we had watched the The College Championship game where he just looked bad. And I've watched some tapan. Even I was like man. This guy is just not. He's got he had bad form. You know he just took too many chances and I was like this is not gonNa turn out well but then it was against the Atlanta game where it was third and thirteen and James Wisdom ran the ball and he ran right into like five Falcon defenders. One of them was Adrian clayborn. They had him wrapped up but he got out of that mess and ended up getting at first down in. I mean he fought hard for that and I was like. That's kind of two hundred one on this team. Because at that point we did not have that attitude and I think he's doing that type of attitude to the team. You know because you see guys doing some crazy stuff that paramount for instance you know just make crazy catches and new are running backs. Dobbin over people and to hurdle in and and trying to get across the goal line and you know look defense on the crazy stuff. They've been doing. It was just like I think they have an attitude of they. WanNa win you know and they get that straight from James Winston. Because he's he's got that attitude he does not like losing say that earlier about. Maybe James Watson has the attitude he wants to act like he can handle losing better than he is. Good at winning but I. I don't really believe that. I think that James Winston has a He's learned to lose. That's a real large part of sports. But he's not a loser he wants to win. You learn to lose. That'd be a good loser but key is focused on winning. That's what's important but now I don't want Jameis Winston gone when anybody on this team going. I aim the I'm with you. I don't think there's anybody out there that we know is going to be an upgrade to Jameis Winston. Nobody even Tom Brady. If Tom Brady. Were come buckner is we would have to change our whole offense well and that's the whole question that that. Nfl has been contemplating. Since the rise of Tom. Brady Bill Belichick. Which one is it? Is Tom Brady Bill? I don't really want to take a gamble because I. I don't think Tom Brady. Is A slouch but no Tom. Brady's got really good qualities. Really good superior elite level. Things is pocket presence as decision making all that. But he's not going to be gun in it down the field forty fifty yards. You know seven eight times a game. He has never had receivers. Mike Gavin Rainy Moss. And but that hasn't been a hallmark of his career is having these stud receivers and you know. Our our offense is designed and this is a characteristic of Bruce. Arians is offense. Are Dolphins design where your quarterback will take a lot of hits? You gotTa have a tough quarterbacking. The Tom Brady's he's not used to take enhanced want that you can always say about doing a patriots. They always had a top level offense. Lie so you bring a Tom. Brady and here is really not even a question for me. I mean it'd be great to have the the goat you'd have to change everything about our offense and it's just not going to happen. So is there anybody there that can step into James Winston shoes right now and perform better? I don't see it. I don't see anybody that could do it. If people talking about Teddy Bridgewater I I don't think he has the The toughness for one and two. I don't think he can sling it down to the field as much. I mean he's got an arm but you gotTa River River. What we were worried about coming into the season. We're worried about our offensive lowered by the run game Worried about having a pass defense and the Canary. Right and as it turns out those weren't really things to worry about and You know now we've yeah. Our secondary is really really good. It took them half the season to give that together but once they did man they were fantastic and like you said we didn't lose Damis. Wisdom was the reason why we lost all those games in the first four year. Jesuits to play gray you know. He didn't make a lot of bad mistakes and everything towards the second half of the year where he started messing up. That's where the defense started playing good and that how you want a team to be when one person's not playing well you want the other team the complementary and you know. We had that horrible schedule at the beginning of the season you know when we started off in a hole and you know that we made it the seven nine really a testament to how good this team coaching staff is. No I don't WanNa get ready dance with but if you do and you WANNA use my arguments. I've never seen anybody with the buccaneers. We've always had issues with our quarterback always matter of fact when I first became according to a buccaneer fan one of the first things I remember was being on the news groups fighting with everybody about Trent dilfer. Everyone here at a trade dilfer and I'll be like no you know he's exactly what we we've got a great defense which is needed gay manager. He's toffee wants to win by by basically the same stuff we've got going on but Jameis Winston has just defied this fan base like nobody I've ever seen on the buccaneers. I mean we've had players that some people didn't like and auto but now it's like he either your adamantly against James Winston and you WanNa gone you hate him or you're like hey hookah. The support had been really client the PISS off these so far. I think he just don't now. I think a lot of people are just kind of wait and see. That's how I am. I I really feel like I trust what they're gonNA do that. You know no matter which way they go. I think it's going to be probably the right decision. They know more than we do. And if they if they were to get rid of Winston and decide to draft somebody I would be comfortable with. That wouldn't like it but uncomfortable with it. I didn't really think about that point until you brought it up how. Mba has drafted these quarterbacks. And you forgot Peyton manning camp site you should have led with that one not Andrew Luck. I couldn't remember who was there. Was one other really great right. He was instrumental in the Ryan. Leaf or Peyton manning and he went out and visited both. It's all in the book and Ryan Leaf. What was it? He had so many issues that was just like he's not the right decision. I think it was Ryan. Leaf got really frustrated when threw interceptions. I think it was the big thing. That Bruce. Don't quote me on manages it but it was it was more Ryan Leaf Strategy. That did sit. Well with Bruce Arians. And that's one thing. Bruce Arians says in his book he wants. He doesn't mind when a quarterback thousand interception. But you have to be a leader of the team and realize that the next play is what's important and don't dwell on it. Don't pout about it when it wasn't he said tears and Snot. Oh I can't remember. Oh my gosh bubble. Snot and tears will never win. Game this is a great quote But he says when he what he looks for in a quarterback because what's James wisened does and he's always does when he does an interception. He's the first guy trying to tackle the guy. That's what James was does. Watch game film. And he does such a man he's blaze another field trying to get Scott. I think Ryan Leaf was not of character that like that but yeah so Bruce. Arians knows how to develop quarterbacks no question about that and he can do it and if we're going to do it. This is the time to do it so if they did it I would. I would be okay I Charleston. I hate it I I would. Yeah I'm just not a big fan a rookie quarterback me neither such a crapshoot josh ru while. I just take a while to really develop them. It's kind of a sunk cost. I guess it's kind of controversy balancing with David you now we've already put all this into an we've invested this much. Might start over. We could franchisee. But there's reports out James Woods in saying through his agent that he would not be very happy with the franchise. But then again you know. We're not real happy with you. Throw it thirty interceptor. Jam saw you with the hands. Don't you but I I wouldn't be upset with that. You Know Franchise Jamus Sign Shack. Get everybody else signed. Let's move on next year and let Jamie chose what he's got this new eyeballs. I agree a Franchisee. Basically as good as a one year contract right yes because we cut do something like what we did with Donovan. Give them one or two years and see what happens. I wouldn't be surprised if we do side James. It'll probably be owed fifty sixty million guaranteed two years the way we set up our contracts. Were very good with that. You know we. Don't we frontload all of our contracts So you know it would be based thing. It's franchised him for two years right but if we if we can get him for twenty five twenty six million for two years. I'd be fine with that too. But but thirty minutes thirty million who you could build incentives into his contract. They're like you can't throw more than fifteen interceptions know if he'd son he likes well. There's some news it's going on after the bucks world but will say that for our next podcast As we did mention drew brees is staying with the New Orleans Saints Announcement on Instagram couple. Hours ago actually could could say a little bit of news here. Go into the news that I got to a couple of things Ron Rivera had a yard sale. Getting rid of all of his panthers gear how he did it and gave it to charity matter than the Dirk Koetter treatment trash But he gave it to a dog shelter. Animal Shelter Charity. Some there's them. So Ron with Ron. Rivera era is done and Carolina There's an article on Wti sports media about Jason Hill and it was a really good argument or really good article. That had a really good argument about why Tyson Hill is not going to be a good franchise quarterback Guy Brought up a lot of good stuff that I didn't know mainly about his injury history. He's got drew bad injury. Issur so if you want to read up on some hill who me. Mali both said that he's going to be the franchise quarterback for the New Orleans Saints and he is a beast but this article here contradict what we said. It's kind of made me think a little bit but you know I watched Tastes Hill in preseason and I thought I was watching drew brees and he throws disliking. He's got all the same mannerisms the same decisions. I went like a whole quarter before I realized it was Tastes Hill. Plan not to resign because I'm sitting there going. Why don't they have drew? Brees playing this late into our built like exactly the same. Yeah any he makes the decisions. He's he's like really made for that system at A. I think Sean Payton is really. Put a lot into tatum. Hill to get him geared up to be the next drew brees he's going to be better than drew brees. Vs Me because of his athletic abilities but this guy at the sports media dot com or m WT sports media. Whatever that is really good article so if you want to go check it out. The title of it is based on the hill fool's gold as a quarterback so put that in research go check it out and read Opel Negga. We'll talk more about that. The next podcast. The former buccaneer Darius Taylor lost his job at Cleveland or formerly known as a dairy as Glenn liked him. Cleveland CLEVELAND. That Cleveland played last year. Now he's Gone. He's probably we'll probably. Nfl has if you can't make it on the Cleveland Roster they're hoping NFL much longer. So that's all I've got for news Florida here that I liked Taylor. He was seemed like a good guy. Maybe he'll be back up somewhere. Are going to wrap it up for us. You scalawags till next time go backs.

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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 574: Tom Brady in Tampa, NFC South is Stacked, Why Bill O'Brien?

GSMC Football Podcast

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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 574: Tom Brady in Tampa, NFC South is Stacked, Why Bill O'Brien?

"Keep yourself in the loop of everything. Football under Golden State media concept's football podcast latest news on the field. Be At College. Football big ten. Sec Big Twelve PAC twelve ACC to the NFL with got you covered. Listen to golden state media concepts football. Podcast Thanks all right guys what's up. Gs MC football podcast on the GMC PODCAST network Me and Bryce are doing this remotely. Usually we come together and do this but As you know the rest of the world are trying to practice social distancing and to help everybody out is just best we we do it apart even though You know vice live too far away from me. Funny enough sh but Yeah we are. Are You doing man? How's The mom? Thinks he saw you at Aldi. Where you at all the other day no I have. I have not been audience entire week. Guess he's seeing stuff. I don't know maybe we'll see a lot of people. Think all the people I feel like a lot of people and that's why I guess my look is kind of like if you see something similar to me. Oh that's right. He's like no. That's not me at all. Look the I'm doing good but while I'm doing good I'm just getting and grinding through this trying time at all of our lives and Unprecedented amount of video game play has been going on right now man. There's nothing else going on. Yeah basically all you a box but you know a lot of players in into the basketball league a lot of twitch channels because it is no better to do so it was like well tweaks. Everybody's trying the new collar duty trying to make some now everybody's fine no next to make money and they're streaming 'cause they're you know they're athletes people care about them and they'll look at anything they do exactly exactly but the rundown for today. We have Tom Brady and talk about that coming up some NFC south stuff. Some our favorite move this far this off season or at least favorite move the draft and Do our usual division breakdown so the start off. Tom Brady signs a two year deal with the Tampa. Bay buccaneers actually. Pretty sure. He signed this deal the day. This podcast came out last week so barely we barely missed. It barely missed it but Tom Brady. he said goodbye to the Patriots in a instagram fashion. Like we probably would expect him to if even if he meant he was going to come back he was probably going to do it through. Instagram. But How do you feel about this you know? You are a falcons supporter. I am sane supporter and now only my things. Supporter Army drew brees trooper and knowing that the enemy has joined. Even more of an enemy of team is just interesting to me. How do you feel having the goat quote unquote in In the division. I need you know I understand like Tom Brady. I mean honestly. This is probably the best thing that Tom had available to him. he did not it was not wanting to England. I build regular check and he was just like well. If that's the I'm going to move on and Tampa. Bay buccaneers wanted him and gave him what eagles like he needs to still be successful. These last potentially last two years of this career since he wants to play at least forty five. You know it's GonNa be tough. Obviously are the falcons have never beaten Tom Brady so obviously. We'll have two chances to change that this year Obviously I know everybody's look forward to the breeze rating match to forty year old plus quarterbacks going at it it's going to make everything really interesting and then we have teddy bridgewater. So you know it's it's it's going to be essentially what happens Obviously is expected Camper Bay to be a Super Bowl Team. This year Their season ticket prices have gone up dramatically since he joined Tampa Bay's booming this football season. Just because it's the arrival one man and I salute legitimately the only move. They would remain all this off season. Was that movie and now it just shows you that. The upgrade Jameis Winston the Tom Brady and puts them right there at the top echelon of the league like everybody else yeah ended a is basically been the death legitimize Winston for the most part Because this point nobody was gonNA TAKE. I think Tampa Bay was the only team that really was considering taking James Winston and this whole thing and now they got Tom Brady James's kind of left out to dry much the same as Cam Newton. 'cause I don't know of any teams in the interest in these two guys and it's crazy to think that a guy who led the league and touchdowns in second passing yards is not going to find a team or not really. I'm by his same team. You know I was talking to. I said this my college show Comes OUT TODAY I did a little rundown James Winston and I don't think we've seen a guy as talented james just not beasley seen after. Because he's not like he's bad that's the crazy make. James is not named bad quarterback so to speak. I mean. He's better than half leave. You wanted to is just that. I guess the thirty for the money that he'd be asking for and his overall his decision making some of the worst. I've seen great to the worst decision makers with the football are in free agency essentially or CAM still looking for trade. But if they can't trade them they're just gonNA cut him so it's I've never seen this before. Honestly to where two guys who have league talent like starter quality talent but it's just cameras just hurt. But even when he's healthy his decision making the best. James is the worst decision maker in football bar. None you worst stage maker in history. I doubt that I don't think he's the worst in history. Maybe but as far as someone with a talent the where he should be and what he's capable of and this this decision making just been so bad. It's just hasn't improved since college. And that's the thing when he came out Of Florida State. It was just like you know his decision. Making isn't the best. And he played a superior talent like Florida state. Hec that year Had the most at any conference of first round guys selected that year Not to say all the first guys panned out anywhere but you know it's a good thing for the ACC that was that was right before the playoffs thing came around. Yeah well don't forget the first year James the first year we remember during college they had the BCS. He didn't throw a lot of picks that year was the first year of the playoff and as we to a bunch of picks and then they got blown up. Or did you know Yeah what you're saying is completely right man. I ever since that last year college is just. It's almost like this doesn't know how to make good reason more which is affecting him now right so it's kind of like. I mean cam situation like I said it's health health week like his play because I mean cams one of those guys. I don't view is someone who's GonNa stay here just our phone all he can throw it. He's pretty good arm talent but he's not a guy can look like a brady or somebody like that. Who's GonNa pick you borrowed from the passing game? Because he has a different skill set then dating right. Never we never saw cam as a guy who was gonNA take a park. Pick pick apart. A defense really liked the demo. The most elite quarterbacks we assume that in the right system of using km he can be he reaches true potential. Mvp level. He's been there before. Yeah we saw one time and You know now a lot of people using revisionist history saying that team wasn't that good anyway in the League might have been at a watered-down state and You know it's just a tough so tough goal especially when you lose to a guy like peyton manning who literally could not throw the football anymore by the time you. Yeah Yeah. That's that's definitely true but I just find. It is going to be a real interesting interesting. Ride this season when every does wherever we find out how is. GonNa play out with the whole Corona Virus Delaying and scheduling. You know that stuff but eventually we hope to see some football. He played and Not only has Tampa Bay Caterpillar itself into contention Now they have a lot of. I suppose expectations now that they did not have going into coming out of the season and I'm not I don't think I'm crazy to think that You know the few like six picks from James Winston gets them in the playoffs last year so their team is pretty fairly constructed to win is just a bad bad beats over the years and this year last year in particular you know they have to pro bowl wide receivers To to top ten guys really if you look at it Mike Evans is somebody. And that's the thing. James had all the tools around him to be successful and typically do know he was to an extent he definitely had some numbers but he had a really bad he had a think forty to turn like forty two turnovers. If you'd like include fumbles or something like that so it's not good the list. The list of guys that he's included with like most interceptions Lake James had more interceptions than Aaron Rodgers. Tom Brady and I think some other. Some other quarterback combined this year like it was just bad like like it's insane exactly and I just WanNa add in there. Won't we CAN CREDIT JAMES FOR HE GIG? He Got Cameron break and he got Chris Chris. God would pay because remember before Chris waddle and pick a really blew up. We didn't know who he was was a Lotta station with it. He ended up. Being James Hardie over Mike Evans. We knew my Devon's we didn't know Chris was. Jane is basically like a novel or receiver and remember the OJ. An Cameron he never those about. Oj Howard like he's horrible or fannies in situations like you know but came in break easily majority those who You know rose as a tight end so he did also benefits and people's career. You know this is also very true but Let's go ahead and take a small break and then we'll get into the rest of the NFC south as they've all made some pretty significant moves. Are you looking for help your fantasy football team check out the GMC fantasy football podcast? Get today's best advice. I start who to sit even who. You should draft from sleeper picks. Red Hot LINEUPS. They got it all covered for you. That's GSM see PODCAST DOT com back slash. Fantasy Dash Football Dash podcasts. We'll cover traditionally dynasty few PR. Even I DP leagues when you need fantasy help. There's just one show to hit up. Don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter. His MC PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO. All right Tom Brady was not the only big move in. Nfc SOUTH AS NFC. South has been extremely active in signing free agents in making some moves. So I think the first thing we should probably talk about is a outside of Tom. Brady is the falcons. They have been very active since leading. They dropped a lot of guys so vic Beasley did not return. The waved devante Freeman they. waived Desmond True Font if I'm correct and with that All that money freed up they sign of few people they signed just recently Lequan Treadwell you know. I remember him being drafted by Minnesota. It did not work out he Did he end up on the Patriots for a little while? I think I can't remember. He might have honestly didn't stay that long. No but they ended up getting todd. Gurley for one year. Five million dollar deal with a lot of people seem to. I'm not sure how I feel about it personally. Like our if this was two years ago I would have been like this is will. Of course this wouldn't happen two years ago but if the talent was not there in two years ago. This happened I would have been like. Oh Wow this is insane. The Falcons are getting away with robbery. Now I'm just like well. This is a big name. He was at arguably the best player in football two years ago before you know. He had basically pre pre knows like arthritis essentially and his knees. And that like I've never seen a harsher decline in one player. Really at it like ever like he was in. He's twenty six in the prime of his career and he looks like he's thirty five trying to still play football. It's bad like I'm not sure what you guys are. GonNa get out of him for. But it's a one year deal so it's not a large commitment but hey. Uga FANS or start. Ecstatic Falcons fans are pretty happy about this What what says you sir. How do you feel I mean? I feel like you'd have to use a limited role. Girly can still do stuff. You can still score. You can still catch you. Just do all that you just. Can't you know before two years ago? He was like the workhorse of the rams. You just can't have him do that. With the Falcons. They have like three or four running back. I expect him to use this year. Anyway so he'll just be a part of a whole rotation of running back that's why completely okay with blue. Obviously this is a great. Pr Move Progress after the Georgia bulldogs ban. Oh we finally got somebody Georgia play soccer. 'cause they complain that we'd never drafted Georgia players or anything like that so we brought one of the ones that were very loved their Georgia back to Atlanta and for me. I'm okay with this like I said not paying him. That much will get. We can out of him. You can still be a threat. Sometimes you know we just have to like. I said over news him. You'll be sharing the backfield with Brian. Hill does Smith Hydra Alison. We'll go with that so I think you really. I mean listen if somehow tog wrily cited seem more like his old self. That's fantastic but if not that's also okay. We just need him to be serviceable. That's all we need from him and that they can get that they should be fine at the running back position moving forward. Yeah I would suppose so I would just assume that I guess it just had to waive Devante so now we have to wait and see where devante goes If he gets picked up for how much money. But you know I keep saying it but the runningback market is horrible right now if you if you have your son in sports playing running back. You're doing it wrong. He had I don't know how tall he is. But you gotta get them to do something else because this he's not going to get the bag that you'd want him to get at least that he deserves in my opinion running back. They do so much but they get paid so little because the return in value is just not going to have a guy run the ball for you know as long as a quarterback is going to be a quarterback for your team or as long as wide receiver. Compla- for a team let alone a quarterback. So it's just a no one has successfully been like you know what this deal made sense and we liked it todd. Gurley deal was ridiculous when he was signed by. It made no sense. The Rams have signed some of the worst deals in the last. What five six years of Football Lake they? The the deal is bad right for multiple reasons. But the Jared Goff deal is absurd. He wasn't that we just from after a year of being considered a bust. He was not good. Set Up to fail whatever you wanted to say it in a year span. Of course he did look good. He looked reworked. Look better but I mean you give him that extension that much money. I mean the big about it. And that's that's that's the quarterback market. That's what you pay quarterback these start regardless of that act which you pay like you saw Tanto got. That's just that's just how it is. That's just really hard but Ryan Hill played better than I feel more confident from what I've seen from Tannehill Hill over his career. And then I would jared Goff because now I don't know what he is I don't know who he is or what he's capable of besides like not only that but I also feel like The Sean mcvay little offense has not click the way it's supposed to primarily because Todd Gurley was not the same if you have if you don't have simply the MVP todd Gurley that often just had did not look the yeah. Oh Yeah Yeah. That's why good awesome. Just one of those quarterbacks make sure you have a running game he can kill you off play. Act if you're telling him to both seeking times win that's probably when you're going to get the the worser of the Gulf side of his entire talent. I mean because it's not like all can do it. You definitely don't want him. You don't WanNa ask him to do it that you don't have to own saying so. I think that's kind of why that situation was everybody says contract early got it obviously grilling was still playing. That level. Probably wouldn't say that now he fell off. It's like all right. Yeah you're ruining running. Back Ezekiel didn't help the situation. Either and people forget this David Johnson also signed a contract a couple years ago. Look what he's done last year. Exactly's ruined the running back market. So you know. It's not good. No it's been bad. I know the cowboys are not happy with Zeke contract. They're probably going to rework it. I would put money that eventually in like a next year. The cowboys deal. They're going to be working to to move up some money. Especially if they're good so to speak they're gonNA they're gonNA move some money around and he's the first person I think of. He's GonNa have to restructure. But it's just a is just crazy we gotta get to get to the rest of them. Real quick but The panthers you know Teddy Bridgewater. Of course their quarterback got your guy access now walker baby out of everybody in sports. Who's been WHO's basically lost in the past two weeks everybody's losing fans athletes the only person that has maybe of one. Pj Therapy Jay quarterback but watch out. Hey He he played long enough. He played just long enough to prove what he's capable of and he didn't play. He didn't play long enough to show what he can't do. So all we noticed that. Pj Walker with the undefeated man. Next fell he never. He never wavered from he had maybe one game but every other game was pretty good too pretty great comparative to everybody else on the field. Xfl MVP usually by far. He was the he was the mahomes. Xfl right there but they signed him. Cam is on his way out either via trade or free. They're gonNA let them walk. They're GONNA release him. The saints win did some things in the off season. They win got almost Emmanuel Moody. That is not as manual standards. Y'All looking for number two. I O offense about to open up. He wore now like Micheal. Thomas is manual. Sanders is never probably has never been this open since the what was his name. Who also played for Georgia by the way Demar Demaria Thomas. He hasn't been this open. Probably since the Peyton Manning Mary Thomas Days Remembered to marry Thomas. He used to be a number one wide receiver a real story. Yeah y'all ever since then I don't think he's ever been as open as as he should be because he hasn't played with the number one guy and he's not really a number one in itself so this is a big move now only for the saints offense in general having a guy who can get up there get past get passes His route running his spectacular and death. Death really needed down the field threat to go along with Michael Thomas. This Michael Will. This makes a lot less who I was harder to move the ball. It frees up Jared Cook it frees up Alvin Kamara latavius Murray's everybody needs from this essentially So it's a good move for the saints. It's the right move. They didn't go out there and overspend on wide receiver especially since they don't know what everybody's kind of on the kind on a similar track where everything is kind of all in on two years. But you don't WanNA overspend to be all in for two years. Because it's the last two years drew They brought back a defensive defensive back in Mara was name. Malcolm Jenkins almost said Michael Jenkins Muslim. Jenkins's back For the saints. Where Ciampino didn't actually want him to leave in the first place but He regretted that move ever since and now they have been reunited so to speak. And that's GonNa help sure of the defense. I would assume because meter should right vom. Bell will probably not return now because we just don't have the money to pay him but we still have Janoris Jenkins is still there and we also I believe we got another defensive back as well and a one year deal who? I'm blanking on his name at the moment but the everybody's kind of retooling around the NFC south man so we'll talk more about them next week. When I guess that spoiler spoiler alert for remainder the park has our division breakdown today is on the NFC West but next week. We'll talk about the south in more detail as we are quite familiar with that territory division. Nfl But let's take another break and we'll talk about our favorite off season moves. Check out the show that's built on the AMA FROM UFC. Two extreme cage fighting. They got the fights covered. Check out the GMC MMA. Podcast get the latest news on past or upcoming fights. Join US as we've talked to. And about some of the biggest names in m e past presidents future. When it's the fight game there's just one show to check out. Gmc PODCAST DOT COM backslash M. E. Dash podcast. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter visit GS MC podcast dot com for more INFO. Okay so coming back. We're going to do our favorite moves as far as the off season We're GONNA try and do three each take another break with. Let's let's try and get three and so I'll start first number one The defined digs trade to get him to buffalo to get my man Josh Allen. Some help over there in bills. Mafia nation This is seeing how the AFC east has. The transit has come to form now. Granted that Tom Brady is out. The Patriots are kind of in a weird place. This is the time to strike and I think the bills new because this happened before Tom Brady was announced that he wasn't coming back. So this is the time it's time to put it put it in. It's time to go ahead and get active in the bill. They're trying to really make a run at this playoff and Have to applaud them for it. It's a brilliant move ties of fairly young wide receiver with a young quarterback so they can develop together and makes magic happen man. I'm excited for this. All right. Go AHEAD RICE. Say Yours all right. Well what am I I moved? I really enjoy my the ones. I'm GonNA talk about war. I guess more team signings than just the individual player but I. I guess team that I'm really liked. Their moves was the Cleveland browns. I think them signing off newburn hooper and also getting the best tackle right on. The mark was very important to what they're trying to do into the future. Obviously if you watch Cleveland one of the weaknesses whistler offense of lying and that was what really. I fully also contribute to Baker's regression last year honestly beating one of the best offense lineman on the market helps solidified the right side of the line and I'm sure they'll address the other parts of the draft and as their new coach is obviously trying to bring together a good off of the White Tag Bacon meal. Fill so they can get the most out of all their skill decision players and then adding a guy like Austin Hooper. I think helps because we know if you wash Atlanta in Austin we're hoover can be very dangerous hiding him. They could be the best tight end. Do always all of the NFL again. That's why it's very crucial. That they signed off Jack Cochran and they got out and hooper because everything if they could get the line right everything is set up for Cleveland to have a top ten offense in the NFL next season. In my opinion everything was set up for them to have a top ten offense last season. Let alone what. They've done this off season. Now it's just What what is it that they do? What do I mean? Listen that's what about. The guy says. Pretty kitchen was not a good head coach. If he ends up being coached you would expect to get more out of the players our views. I mean it just doesn't make a lot of a lot of sense on the on the idea of for me thing about Cleveland is I can never like all these moves. Thus far seem logical to extend point I don't think they needed to go. And Get Austin Hooper. Personally I think that was They could have spread that money elsewhere. I don't think the thing that was my. I guess they have the luxury to go. Get Him but I don't know of Baker Mayfield needed another target through the football too but We just have to write anything. Cleveland you just have to wait and see what happens. I've been wrong before I did not think that you know all the moves that L. A. Did this basketball lady all the move to La did To Supplement Lebron around a d Was going to mean anything. And they were the top seed in the western conference this year. So you know. I've been wrong plenty of times on. Who's like this so who do what do I know but Here we are so okay. Yours is Cleveland number two for me. The chargers had choose. They could not get both leaves not for the money that I guess the ties. Considering what money that Melvin Gordon ended up receiving I have to assume that the ties were severed enough in loss in against Los Angeles now for the chargers that they didn't WanNa Bring Melvin Gordon. Back because the hell out and how it it did not help them in the long run in they could not reach an agreement so the at the end of the day. The chargers went out because I think they got the better back for their system that they like to run. So here we are. The chargers got off the nectar. I enjoy I like Austin a lot. You know. A good story was undrafted was not making any money. Now he's making. He's a multimillionaire so to speak On a really team friendly deal so it's like for the chargers and they don't have to deal with the headache of the idea that you know. Even though Melvin Gordon was considered an elite back in this league at least the year before last year for got hurt they did not have to pay him elite level money for two different reasons. One he was not the same productivity after coming back from the holdout to They didn't need him as much after the holdout so the holdouts all that proved Austin equity could handle the load undrafted guard could handle. The same load is a guy who was taken in one of the first three rounds of football. So what does that tell you Mike Of Course Mel Gordon end up going to Denver for I believe sixteen million dollars for two years or something of that degree. It's just a you could never have thought I never saw that one coming. Never saw Mel Gordon getting that less that that little of money. So is this goal. Show you know that that still puts them in the top five running backs make in terms of per year salary and NFL. Woods is absolutely insanity. The money for running backs is poor. And that's all I have to say that is it should all I say? Wait for the Christian. Mccaffrey shake one Barclay contracts. He'll be out of their route. Say quantities already making top dollar. He's probably the highest paid running back in the NFL. I mean he was the first route. Hey hirers round pick though so. He's just making that personnel money. Yeah but you know. The giants are going to pay him. When that time comes no not not the money that he got now. I don't think so so. You'll get paid less rookie deal. He might get an extension but it's not gonNA be. They'll probably one of those things where he gets paid upfront and then back or move the money around year year in the backside and this thing to do and turn into a signing bonus year after year instead of just being armed salary to get it off the books so I don't know but congrats charges you one too. Yeah I got you got you well. Mine Retu- I'm I'm going to go with the Philadelphia Eagles when they made the trade dare you slay their big place Obviously if you've watched eagles these last years one of the biggest issues consistently has been their secondary they have struggled to get a decent seconds. You can always throw them and they really. I guess you could say bought because potential number one corners really everyday did and you really can't say they've had it on one corner. Since maybe Al Sham. Maybe so honestly picking up gay you slay. We wanted the best corners in the NFL. Detroit is a big deal for them. I helped solidify one half of their secondary and the bakery would have to do with the other half I The guy was important also them getting divine hargrave one of the best interior lying on the market also helped as obviously the eagles no. I collect the eagles are that one team aced off last year. You made the playoffs for the plea roster if you can stay healthy. You make these improvements. Why can't we be considered a super bowl contender this year of Carson wentz everybody hopes on Carson Wentz? If he can stay healthy why wouldn't they be super bowl competition at the end the day? Ch- that's fair. I have them coming out of the. Nfc East this coming season as they were projected to last year and Injuries really derailed their season. Two to another level really but I have to believe that they can bounce back a lot of rest right now. Everybody's got a Lotta exactly the only guy that no workout program so you don't even have to get off the ground rest up and get one hundred percent ready for next season. Try to run it back and more successful less challenging season right from injuries. Respected all right. Let's let's do a little rapid fire real quick to get to these last three. Hardee's last two number. Three for me is a manual sanders. I think that's probably one of the more underrated moves 'cause Unless you really understand the if you don't follow the saints and you only see them losing the playoffs to Minnesota. Then you really don't understand why this is a big time for their offense as of the whole I know as a Falcons Fan. You are not happy about this. You're trying to stay professional. But I understand many fans Hit My lineup. In the last few days and They have mentioned their disapproval of the saints. Doing this because their offense already is fairly strong in the regular season But there are times when they go up against the right defense and the right scheme right coach they can get very They can get stale because Michael Thomas gets double teamed all the time and they don't have another guy that come out there and a really have an effect on offense. Ted ginn is not the same Drew brees is arm is not the same. I should say for Ted Ginn as again is more of a deep threat rather than a route runner. He's gotten better but he's not the best but Manual Sanders is known for his route. Running still very fast and is really able to make some plays with football as we saw in the championship game. In fact if Their quarterback his previous quarterback was able to get the ball to him. They win the Super Bowl. You saw open. He was there and he was essentially playing by himself out there in receiver land. They did not have the best wide receiver group out there. They were very much a A run heavy team relied on the play action. So Here we go. Drew brees has another weapon to throw to And he's not going to be somebody who he feels like. He has to groom into being better wide receiver than what he is We already know what he's capable of. So I think that's a quality move. Yeah Yeah I definitely. I definitely agree on that. They actually bring some interesting questions. You still like a little quick thing in the NFC south three teams. I'll have to receiver. Is each some people could consider all number receivers on the Bay buccaneer saints in fact? But that's just another topic to my number. Three number. Three is the falcons signing duct tape outlier junior. Because obviously is you know. The big experiment failed dollars. His career technically had a better career. Veasley obviously the Falcons have always had issue pass rush and obviously signing a guy like him helps basically feel that whole that big beasley field are left get there. Obviously we saw tack McKinley. Obviously he's had injury issues but if he can get healthy he's shown flashes a pass rushing ability. Ed What's going on? It's just like coaching has been a problem the last couple years if they can get the Max out. Don't they follow he give about ten sacks that's probably? You're probably feeling pretty good about it. Because I don't feel like the money you gave him was too over the top. Because we didn't get to Robert Quinn money you know. We gave them less than that. And what we're going to ask him what we want from too. I think it'll be a very efficient effective signing for the Atlanta Falcons. Obviously he's GonNa have to get off their drew. Brees Tom Brady in the NFC south and hopefully cost them having in the backfield. That is crazy. The only ah you know what's interesting then a sea south bike as we Wrap THIS UP. And it's the south is the only division. I think that if you wanted to be a defensive tackle. This is the one if you wanted to be. President is the one you don't got nobody in there. That can move no more but nobody is. The quarterback can really move around with the football. So you got all the time in the world to go out there and get them run around. Teddy team overall. Isn't that good so the very moment right? Teddy is not a mover. I'll tell you that season is a lot of things. Teddy Bridgewater is. He's not a big mobile guy. At least not. Not as you'd like him to be but let's take another break and we'll talk about who are least favorite moves out this job built around the women of MMA from the UFC to the extreme cage fighting. We got the fights. Cover the Golden State media concept's women's MMA podcast. The latest news of upcoming twice discussions of previous matches join us as we talked to about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and future when it's the women's game you know to listen to the golden state media concepts women's MMA. Podcast all right all right so Bryce here we go. I think we should get the worst outhwaite. We're doing our least favorite move off season thus far. I think I'm going to be very in line with a lot of our listeners. Here in a lot of football fans around the world when I say those Texans Win Guy Robbed Blind they were robbed blind by the Arizona Cardinals. And Gosh Darn it. I just don't understand what that boy bill. O'brien is doing over there. He he went there and he got a Ham Sandwich. And pretty much wire stuff running back to wash down way of our just. Don't understand why you give one of the best wide receivers in Footba. This is just don't I can't comprehend why you give one of the best wide receivers and football for Baloney Sandwich and a glass of milk. That's just not smart. Gm and he shouldn't be the GM over. Football team is barely the head coach. Now you got your Sean sending cryptic tweets. I don't even understand twitter. But he's saying quick scripted tweets cryptic messages. I don't know John's coming back now. The whole team is a quarantine the rest of the NFL. And nobody's having good Tom. So that has to be the worst raid. I've seen in my lifetime and other watching football for a long time. Now boy kick all right. That's that's it. That was a gym right there. I just don't understand what why this happened. And not to mention you see Stefan digs they. Who did compared to what Minnesota got our couldn't have met our would be so livid foul the Texans Fan be like how do we give away our best receiver literally nothing? That's that's basically what it was. It was literally nothing. I remember described the trade. They got a second and they awkwardly through in a four crown peak to the baker. See Better and then they gave David Johnson or his terrible contract with washed up. Oh man every every single top wide receiver ever been traded. Think ever has always received a first round. Pick in return besides this one. This is the only one brandin cooks. Carl was traded twice both times received first round. Pick both arms. They were late but first round picks essence. All right. Give Me Yours. Started talking about this week So I didn't particularly like this off season was with the Indianapolis Colts at the quarterback position. Because I feel like. You're getting a washed up quarterback and you think you're going to win now with Philip. Rivers was second in turnovers slasher behind game is Winston it. You just think Oh. We're win now mode. We're going to now win. Because we have Philip rivers as our quarterback. You were better off going after either cam. I I rather gave this I- rabbit. Kati make a run at Tom. Brady somebody else. But Philip Rivers. Because here's the issue with the chargers have talent they had a losing season multiple times dismantle ask years except I think two years ago with outside of that we seen what happens with that talent is San Diego so you just eight now. Oh because Oh different team. It's it's cold I think. The chargers weapons are vetted in the coke. I mean better than the colts. Weapons River had bad. Talk over there now. The only thing you may be able to say we'll charge. His office of line isn't as good as the colts. Have PAPA WHY SO. Maybe hey he just protection rivers might light it up. Rejuvenating is career Brett. Farr like they'd light it up and then boom you know. Indianapolis Colts are going to be competing for Super Bowl. But right now I guess not a Good Room. Rivers is the three things. You can't be old in mobile internal Bro. Better Hope Alvin. Hold up because of night is going to be another bad season for the colts and nearby is going to be like why listener keeping Jacoby per se but I will not be surprised if he gets the field. This year in that happens. That rivers experiment has failed. Yeah all I can think about. Is the game last year against the chiefs or he threw. He'll just slinging the football in there he had and he listens when he threw seven interceptions in the last two of his games and It was just bad. He threw that one of the end zone that potentially could win the game and they just didn't you just don't understand where he was looking at like what happened like the drop off was so apparent. It was so bad so bad so fast. How did this? How did we let this happen? It's football fans. It makes me feel like we made the mistake sometimes. Almost a little bit not too much but a little bit. I'm just like how we as a fan based is ignore Philip rivers decline. Because it's just couldn't have come this fast. He was on he was on an MVP tear like a year ago right or was it two years three years later and then this man I hope he can play. Maybe something to prove that he can still play and that the chargers just was not where he wanted to be Think as soon as they moved to. La Things just started to look bad and that is just the end. All be all on that. I guess in my opinion Johnson just don't know. I think the charges still without a quarterback correct. Well they're going to tyrod Taylor right now they said he's GonNa be the starter going into this season. Oh tyrod brains eve me a break or so. Give me a break. Buffalo denied they survived with tyrod. Tyler touched Colorado make mistakes so he he doesn't win James Either so sorry to let this breaking news. Tyrod is just not the guy now. I have to reconsider my Austin fantasy ideas. I mean Guirec. Something different in Philip gives them which was the mobile guy that could help us neck. I hope that the they reconsider. I hope they're still going to draft a guy. You'RE GONNA be drafted so or whoever they decide to drive tyrod once again. Is the bridge quarterback for a few games and then Justin? Herbert will start. That's that's what I'm hearing. The chargers lose. Yes they win. He's saying well no well all right. Good talk all right Here's here's my second one. I don't like the broncos actually taking Melvin Gordon and it's all for selfish. Reasons is not football reasons. I don't like the fact that Philip Lindsey has to share the ball. I think he was going to have a better season than last year. And that's really it so upset about it. It's a bad move for me in my fantasy efforts I'll have to look elsewhere. Now that's a I mean I understand man. I know it's rough. You guys think about fantasy. Complications of all these moves. I'm sure you'll be calculating all season but I guess my other At least Like move honestly just the fact that the Patriots resigned. Tom Brady because list right. Now you're three. Quarterbacks Cody Kessler Jarret. Stidham Brian Hoyer. I don't see the Patriots. Winning would either now is to sit here in St Louis. Jewish them could come in your next year. Light it up and improve us all wrong. We're all looking looking dumb but right now we have to go and what we know it was it. Wasn't that great albarn and you know. Y- with with the type of team they they are especially the Patriots. Getting weapons is just like how. How do you see them being better? I mean obviously. Some people think they're still going to make a different move quarterback. Maybe this is. They'll probably draft another guy this year. They said a couple of weeks ago the plan to draft a guy so I always say cups are probably won't be there might be. Some people are saying that it might be the this might be the move where they trade with the Bengals to get the Red Rocket. Now they could they be yet. But maybe this is for your boy from St Tong. Thought about it. Boy I was like you know I a warm weather city yes. Cold weather in from has an average arm. No because that man was struggling. Throw balls at combine. This is in a in a stadium. This ain't outside so I know he will be New England so I said next guy at that probably will be Jacob. Jacob has a arm and so that can be Guy New England looks at well. Essentially maybe Jacob lethem Ashley does get the last laugh after all I. I really don't know where I'm going to go with his career. You'll be a career backup but then I won't see him being able starting quarterback in the NFL right. But let's take another break and we're gonNA talk about the draft as we are actually starting to talk about it now. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts. Now listen close and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. The golden state media concepts podcast network is here nothing less than our podcast blitz with endless hours of podcast covered from news sports music fashion looking entertainment fantasy football and so much more so stop lurking around and go out to the golden state media concepts podcast network guaranteed to build that. Podcast is whatever it may be visit us at. Www DOT G S M Z. Podcast DOT com follow us on facebook and twitter and download items soundcloud and Google play. All Right Bryce. The draft is no longer going to be an event for the public for the first time in a very long time. It will be televised event. Of course like always but in studio there will be no handing out no handshaking. No no hats is over. You might as well does not have. The draft does not feel the same. This is a never been. I've never been this bummed out for every every news report for sports has just been not good. There has not been good one yet except for. Pj that's why he wins three days the only winner only got roughnecks baby. I just don't have to imagine being athlete right now coming out to the NFL draft. You are happy you are excited. Your family's getting excited I guess everybody's GonNa have the you can't even responsibly. Have a house party during the drive right. You can't have all your family members at the House the CDC won't kill you all you can have any immediate. Who ever lived already right. You can't even have your folks. There are people that got you to where you are like. Or you're GONNA get slammed on twitter for practicing social distancing. It's over with. This is about the worse like this is bad like I am in no mood this today. It's one of the worst days walked. Yeah Yeah Eighth Yeah. It's definitely definitely going to be a very interesting experience. I'm the I'M GONNA be interested including the cameras in their houses and they'd be like you got to go see the outside the window shots celebrate because they don't want to be or they're gonNA have to do like skype calls or something every time. I get drafted skype or something. How do you feel about it and from your home right now? Quarantine first overall draft pick jober. It's GONNA be rough. Obviously you won't be as exciting. I guess that's a fan. You know because obviously the draft has grown. You know before it used to always be in the same place inside of a town hall. They would do it now. The war of more of a fan interactive experience. Weren't they going to be on Lake in Hawaii like in the water? Wasn't it bill? I I think I think so. Yes they were going to have that they would be on as they go. Podium TO GET THERE. I guess you know the Jersey handshake and all that right all that money. I guess they're going to have to do it next year. But you can't just waste the money. I would assume I think bagels the next year so I think they've got things planned out. Oh yeah that's true. I think babies got the draft next year. So they're going to have to try to do that another time. But yeah so. That's pretty much how that's GonNa look. I'm sure I always say I said this. I gotta think about college catering. This situation Bacon and understand ball from any sports like to say they about college basketball players. They never experience. We're GONNA issue the ones who are one done seniors. Let's say you've never seen March management never experienced. You'll never even taste. Yeah Anthony Everest go on to the draft. We don't even know if you're that good why listed basketball's out of high school they are. You know your top five so here in College. Football big about guys who are going through the draft. They were making this huge graphic speeds all the new day all the stuff you know all the fanfare big none of that basically their house and work out and then duck like who would say he has the Senate video. Oh Kim workouts every team because he can't actually still the day they think about it. You've got go your backyard and have your own pro day right so you can still give out some tape for the NFL teams to see. It's it's not it's still very lacklustre experience. You'll never feel the full experience being drafted. You know right. It's like Jalen hurts. My Guy He won't have is pro day. I don't believe you can't showcases stuff. He's going to have to do it in the privacy and start sending videos going to have to make his draft stock. Miges would stay words that it was on the rise. I was on well actually before the quarantine stuff happened. Oklahoma had their product. So he had his time could ever they had their pro day beforehand? That's true because yeah so. Yeah he was one of the lucky ones. Now anybody else now. Out of looked white borough. He'd go get it ain't going to get urban get it automatically get it. I mean do. We really need to see a lot like the thing about the. Nfl is you don't need to see to too much for is that are already considered where they're going to right. Yeah there's more about guys that can make a name for themselves and thankfully the draft or the combine already came and went so we saw guys in the combine that may have some ability to maneuver themselves in the draft but private workout sort of stopping. Now like you of course and all this stuff now. It's hard Dick. Yeah you can't even scout anymore right now. Scouts people are not being sent around the Scout. They stopped that before. Basically the whole country has shut down. So here we are. This is our reality. This is what we're dealing with but more about the draft. So how can espn make this entertaining product so to speak beside because people are? GonNa Watch it. It's the draft and it's going to have probably even more people to watch it because not every nobody's GonNa work right How long the draft from now a wall? It's usually at the end of April so about probably a solid month right so in all likelihood I don't believe we'll be out of this within a month. Let alone Once reevaluated in like a week or so. I don't think we're going to be out of this This social distancing Self Quarantine State Right now. The KOVIN virus There's this more and more people being discovered as a thousand cases in Louisiana on like it's insane. How fast is going in certain places so I just don't see it getting better that quickly. So that being said Disney. The mouse the four letter networking SPN. They ought to figure it out. What how do you make a draft with no people entertaining? I feel like I'm going to be watching poker this no. You probably don't see a lot of people at home because I was watching the news yesterday and they did the sports update in the person. Who does a sports update in doing it from this House? At the studio. God's probably wish you'll see they'll be their house giving during analysis on every graphic every decision. 'cause AIN'T NOBODY GONNA actually be there at the actual things off. They let one person but I bet you right. Roger Goodell probably Roger Goodell whereas you're GONNA be okay. Probably I'm sure he'll oh no he might. I'll know he's GonNa be understand. Like where are the answer? I guarantee you. Some of the more popular athletes are probably going to be on like instagram. Live while they received the first overall while they get their picks. Like if I was if I was if I was Joe Borough. I'd go on Instagram. Live or periscope or whatever live streaming application. There is while the draft is happening just to showcase reaction. And that's it. That's the experience that's the closest we'll get what about for owners and like you know they used to have war rooms where they're doing the draft and all that they can't do that right. Yeah I mean that's what the interest of bikers big by everybody has to come together talk about who they're going to drop so let's all you. Here's the thing that you can do this where they get everybody tested. They're going to be the room and evolving negative. Be Near like all right. We can all come together to do this. Because you're going to have to have some communication with all your spouse or whoever is in that process to make these picks for seventeen for three days so I'm sure they're going to figure out something where they can kind of be all interactive with each other. They'll probably do a video chat. Probably because you can't get tested if you have no symptoms like if you have no symptoms you just wasting a test. That's why a lot of these guys are interested. Elba has been catching some flack. Because he didn't showcase any symptoms. Will you still wouldn't get tested. And all these other guys. So yeah big. I'd be I guess you gotTa make sure I guess But that's just that's the world we live in right now and this is not just a you know that phrase that we all say this is just the world we live in like legitimately the world. We live in right now where I don't know how we're going to how the draft is GonNa be successful this year. Besides the fact that people are going to be introduced to see what they come up with what to do like. I take one of the more popular shows are. Espn probably the most popular show is all You know remotely I mean. They've been doing different versions of that before. Were like even Steven A. Or Max Kellerman is not in the office and essentially they They have a guy called they call in and they do video chat with one of the host. But now everybody's away now everybody has then weird quality. Everybody's Kinda Kinda iffy about it. I'm sure Undisputed is doing the same. Get up is just. It's changed the sports world faster than anything else I've ever seen but Yeah man the draft is GonNa Change some. It's going to. There's going to have to change but let's go ahead and take our final break and then get into our division breakdown. This is your ultimate staffer. Everything sports the Golden state media concepts or podcast. Should I say more from the NFL MLB THE NBA MMA? It's all in here. Golden state media concepts sports podcast. Listen all right so we're back to talk about finally the NFC West as we wrap our divisional breakdown and wrap up the podcast simultaneously so here we are NFC west we have the La Rams. We have the Seattle seahawks. We have the San Francisco. Forty niners the runner up of the Super Bowl and we also have the Arizona cardinals so we have to really strong playoff teams. Technically three but one didn't make it But they were in the super bowl literally last year so this division is very tough not to mention newly-acquired top five top three wide receiver in the NFL has joined the division for the Arizona. Cardinals with a young team or young group of guys are really really offense. Reminded HEAD COAT. This is the Vision. Is going to be a bloodbath. A absolute bloodbath. Look at this look at the price on paper. Wilson right decay metcalf all their other weapons. Chris Carson comes back and their defense. I would assume would get better. They haven't decided if they're going to bring back a three Davian. I don't know if they are not he's still on the market by the way to David. Clowney then you move over the rams they can figure it out you know they can probably go find two running backs for cheap and make it work. And if they can get jared Goff back on track to you know elise look like he's worth half the contract they have some really good wide receivers. They're brandin cooks. They have of course Cooper Cup they just have some weapons man Everett out. There tied in their their offense explosion waiting to happen. Of course they still have Jalen Ramsey and the defensive back they have the best defender and football in Aaron Donald in skin crazy so then you have to go ahead runner ups from last year Super Bowl. Their defense is still going to be strong. As ever their offense has only lost Emmanuel Sanders from my understanding So if they retool in the draft and get some guys you know there's plenty of wide receiver in the draft bunny offensive threats. They GET JERRY. Mckinnon back from injury as well. They're going to be good. They're probably going to be good for a long time now. And of course the cardinals legacy that earlier they win They put a It wasn't a franchise. Tag was a transitional tag on Kenyan Drake Of course they traded for. They've fleeced fleas Texans for their best wide receiver. One of the top three in in Deandre Hopkins still have way for zero being productive They have some pretty productive Third and fourth receivers as well and their quarterback has a year under his belt and he'd look pretty good near the tail end. I don't know who comes out this division to be honest. Who Do you put your faith in? I mean honestly right now. You have to go if it was me. I half ago Seattle. Just because they've been almost consistent obviously last year's obviously with Russell Wilson. They've they've usually always you know. One Games You feel like they're only gonNA get better I feel like that everything points to them still being that team. That's GonNa win about ten eleven games. Twelve Games next year and breaking into the playoffs. Obviously San Francisco. See What happens you know? Suitable hangovers can happen. So we don't know if that's going to affect them. Obviously a lot of people still have the jury out on. Jimmy Garoppolo obviously not having great showing in the Super Bowl which and everything blake. We'll have to see what he does come back next year under his about. This will be his third year in the system and we'll have to see also would have weapons. They decided to put around him. Obviously like you said it. Maybe it will sanders leaving half to replace him. That could be a big hole on the lease on the wide receiving corps. Obviously with the rams the rams back their old in their overpaid so it feels like how can you really get better? So it's going to be very important for them to hit on draft picks because that's usually who you're going to have to side and some of these positions. Obviously they're probably GONNA definitely need to get a guy who can replace Todd Gurley. They're going to need to improve off on the blinds office in line to road last year. Which also major worse and. I feel like they could fix that and they did some things he principal. You think they should be better or they can find because you still got. Aaron Arledge Got Jalen Ramsey. He's got talent every level. It's just more about shoring up some areas that are not the strongest. And then obviously the cardinals. The cardinals I look at the cartilage is the big wall into their their their the team. You don't know. Because here's the thing with Paula. Murray his tally and then waking play last year but click things very often so Schemed and his offense of a magic that he can create you. Think with this kind of spread air raid whatever office. They're running that would be either. Hawkins added into the fold. They have all the potential to light them up from the passing game next year and be one of the at least one of the highest scoring teams in the NFL so Arizona. Maybe one of those games you always have to come in to enact outscore them Blah same time Arizona has their issues obviously needs to be fixed differently. They have a lot of problems. They gotta get that fix they. Just they just traded clay Campbell their best Interior defender for sure. Exactly slow. You know they're they're they're they. They might have a plan they might just like. We're just GONNA happen body young guys that we're going to do that. I know some people think I feel like you know why some people won't have that same success that the Falcons had in two thousand sixteen when they were able to hit all five graphics defense. And that's why the defense is better that suitable year. 'cause there because everybody wants to success but they haven't made too many movies and free agency so in terms of like offensively so. I don't know that's just taking their sweet tonder not how to overpay or anything like that so it really just depends. Are They Lecarr? I think Seattle is going to win the division. We'll have to see where San Francisco and Seattle and the rams end up will be interesting to see what happens with those teams. Where would you Where'd you say the Division Rankings would be here so like If you had who wins the division who comes in second third and fourth. I'M GONNA go first Yadel. I'm going to go. You know something I'm GonNa go Arizona's second in San Francisco third and ran forth because really because I don't know here's here's the thing about the the forty niners. What is their strength running the football right because we think Jimmy Garoppolo can't throw her is not that great right. They do not fix their receiving core gets by outside of George Kendall if teams shut down the run you have your former to beat. The forty niners can't score that much all you do lead. Put up some type of points to give their deepest and you end up beating games where you can win remember. San Francisco was not good in a lot of late games last year. Right if you put him in those situations resulting more losses this year for them and I mean literally like is one of those things like I said. There's a year on you. We know what you do. Well we're going to try to stop it next year. There's there's jury off your quarterback if he can't win these games. You're not winning them. Which means that will be more losses for you and that can set up an opportunity for them to be better. Because here's the thing that people forget Arizona. Play boycotters really. Well ask you because they gave them issues because of their often. Some steam and Office of games right so I feel like if Arizona can short their defense and I. It was better than what they were last year. I do not see why they couldn't be better as a team. It's easy to sit here and say the fourth because they're Zona when I there's a lot that's why they did. A wildcard either. Could be the second team where they can be the last. There's not a definitive like yeah. They're going to be working. Berkshire in my opinion I believe it. Let's look ended there. I guess I'll give my my rankings real quick and then we'll we'll head out of here but I think that the forty nine hundred figuring out and I think there are a lot better than They're a lot better to make another run than let's say the Seattle seahawks right now in my opinion vowed but then when to. I think they both make the playoffs. Think the rams will be a solid third. I think that Arizona will be fourth again but they'll be competitive a lot more a lot tougher and they won't be a cakewalk as kind of wearing the early parts of the season last year but That will be it for the GMC football podcast elected. Thank you off listening. 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Straight Outta Vegas with RJ Bell

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11/18/2020 - Best of Straight Outta Vegas

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Then tell ford about a service member of your proud of using the hashtag proud to honor and four to one hundred bucks on your behalf to military charities up to three and a half million dollars fox. Sports radio so rj. One point in time the seattle seahawks were five and oh and one of the best teams in the nfl since then. They've lost three of four. They are struggling in questions. Have come up about the seattle seahawks in the future this season. Yeah faz where do you go. Seattle and remember this is thursday's game against arizona. So make sense. We're given an early look. See here but boy uncovered something fez. What he got For arizona and for seattle in your rankings seattle is number seven arizona number twelve. Jeez you just won't drop seattle. No matter what what were they. When they were undefeated they were right around fourth so literally for every game they lose go back one slot. Yes but i i'm saying incredulously. So hopefully you'd answer at some point explained to how that is well in the first game against arizona. Seattle is up ten very much deep into the fourth. Quarter are jason. That's a game. It's almost like the game didn't happen. Didn't want it to they. Easily not only have but really should have won that game And that's one the buffalo game. They got completely when they just barely beat minnesota when they should've lost. Did you downgrade it. Like a loss convenient. Because i so if the only way you can get downgraded is if you lose the game by twenty points or you know decisively that confuses me doesn't matter if you win or lose and they had both. They had a win in a close game in a loss in a close game. How did you handle that. you know. that's a good point because i only downgraded them. I think half a point on that minnesota one point win and that's the game dalvin cook got injured and really seattle was beyond lucky to win that game. Yeah so you said. It's a good point so i mean who. Who do you have around seattle. I wanna hear. Who's the two teams after seattle indianapolis number eight and buffalo number nine. Oh my gosh who. You got ten and eleven new orleans ten. Because i know james winston quarterback wait a minute. You just had new orlands team in the nfc drew drew. Brees is a lot better than when we go arm. He's dreams drew. Brees is the third rated quarterback in the nfl. Right now qbr. I know. I mean there's been one drew brees fan and i would make the case on this show and you're listening to his voice right now And i'm just so confused how you think you think right now. You would have seattle favored on a neutral field over the saints with winston absolutely. Obviously wow what do you think of that jones. Now i wouldn't i. It's kind of crazy. I think maybe the better question is. What's the difference between jameis winston and teddy bridgewater because bridgewater went five and last year with the saints. And i don't know the bridgewater's a better quarterback and i think the question is teddy bridgewater's perception last year. Not how he is this year versus winston this year. Yeah i just don't know the difference. I got bridgewater. Sixteen quarterback half a point. Better than winston. Check one check. Can you hear me check one. Check two. i'm not saying this year. I'm saying last year's assumptions. On bridgewater versus winston's assumption. This year last year. Bridgewater was a lot lower. Yeah i agree. So winston was a lot better better now. The bridgewater was perceived last year. Correct yes i actually think. That downgrade isn't enough in this game. or generally for winston. Because if you look a winston everyone was like yeah but he threw for this may thousand yards of five thousand and thirty touch a qbr. He was fifteen or sixteen as you might have it six tenth and brees was what second third whatever third. Yeah so what is the downgrade between an average starter and the third starter. So just look at your third starter now best starter and your number sixteen in which point differential because to me. Everyone's thinking well. Winston maybe got the better arm. Hey we've had five years to see winston play now. Maybe sean payton can do something different but and if anyone can it might be him or andy reid or ballot i you know. He's in that short short list but man. Oh man i just don't see how especially with limited practice in a new system remember. Bridgewater was in his second year in with the saints when he started those five games. This winstons first year. Winston was never known as a guy who learned the playbook fast either. So what's the difference between three and sixteen. It's three point difference. Okay so you're giving it a one and a half point downgrade right. I'm giving it a three point downgrade. So you're saying you're given winston a three point downgrade. I am now. Did you notice what the market did. Yeah the market gave it a two point downgrade. The look at line was atlanta plus seven. Now it's atlanta plus five But initially it was plus five and a half right so it was a point and a half an hour to move to two so okay. So you're saying you think it's more of a downgrade winston From brees than the market. Is i agree with you. And it's kinda interesting that three to sixteen is three points. Which is what you did. So kudos on that rj. Bo we're straight out of vegas. Be sure to catch. Live editions of straight outta vegas weekdays at six pm eastern three. Pm pacific on fox sports radio and the iheartradio app. Welcome to the ball alert. Show appreciate it so much clearances at hp. I wouldn't game to university. I got my degree of university in business management marketing. I was the first person in my family. Devoted college angr aj so my parents for me. I was bored to hec you. I really didn't have a choice. So in visited all those campuses. And then. When i when when i went to hand scam but there was nothing like him campus so i was like beauty. What would you say you learn. The most being at hp see the broader musso. A new yorkers always new york. Or when i went to hampton and i had a from jersey get i had a roommate from mississippi and then i had a roommate from philly all that music but now bringing that back now not disavow your fiji. I spend anything. That's what i think is the biggest. Hec meeting everybody. Those excellent mcdonald's is celebrating as well as we should for more information on. Mcdonald's black and positively goal to move me and you can follow. We are going to know. Instagram inspired by tana. He coats number one new york times. Bestselling book of the same name comes. Hbo's between the world and meet the special recounts coats experience growing up in baltimore's inner city and is growing fear of the daily violence committed against the black community written as a letter to his teenage son. The narrative explores coats notion that american society structurally supports white supremacy the special features elements of the two thousand eighteen adaptation and stage production at the apollo theater. Powerful readings from the book documentary footage from each actors. Homelife archival videos and animation fitri mahershala ali. Angela bassett giral. Jerome courtney vance. Mg rodriguez black thought. Susan colegio watson oprah winfrey and many more from award winning director camilo forbes stream the new special event on saturday at eight pm on. Hbo mex and be sure to listen to the between the world and meet four-part companion. Podcast premiering monday november twenty third available on all major podcast platforms. Now let's look at russell wilson. Now this has no rhyme or reason. But i can't ignore it and i tweeted out all the numbers here right before the show so at rj. Jane vegas you can uses a visual aid right now unless you're driving and why would and this is a rhetorical question. Why would and you luck. Struggle massively almost incomprehensibly when playing arizona in seattle at home. I totally get the idea that for one season you might struggle against the team. Because they're going to have usually the same coaches saint players. And then if you have that the next year hey might be a struggle the next year so in the ravens and play the steelers and it's big band versus flacco. You could see a lot of trans going year after year after year. But arizona's had multiple coaches in the last five years three of them right. Three coaches different. Quarterbacks differ defensive players. Now you could also make the case. Well if it was in arizona it would make sense because maybe it's the stadium or maybe russell wilson has a certain breakfast place that he loves the overeats on sunday morning whenever he goes to arizona and he's logie and not quite as mobile. There's all kinds of things that can happen. These are human beings but being at home against the same uniforms but not the same coaches players. faz. I can't think of any rationale why there should be this amazing trend which i'm going to get to but i'm kind of setting it up like this to say when you hear this trend it's going to be. Wow and then all of this is going to be like whoa. What's going on. Can you think of any reason. Why russell wilson would do poorly at home versus arizona. Not at all. I think the opposite. It's always raining. And it's always miserable in seattle during football season. And i get a soft team from the desert coming to my house major advantage. I would think for seattle their last five years. One game of the sixteen each season has been arizona plane at seattle. This is russell. Wilson's qbr ranking one to sixteen so the best qbr of the regular season would get a one and the worst would get a sixteen. The average would get an eight. Let's say okay. So the eighth best games i one of the five years was the eighth best. Qbr so average no be deal. Forget it the other four years. One of them was his second worst of the year. So the number fifteen. Qbr was arizona at seattle. The other three were the worst of the year number. Sixteen out of sixteen number sixteen out of sixteen number sixteen sixteen number fifteen out of sixteen in eight hundred sixteen faz what the heck is going on. That is the most amazing stat rj. I would made a million to one that there would be well. Maybe one hundred thousand to one. That there wouldn't have been four of the five would be the worst performances against arizona and that's spots so i i mean if we reverse engineer and said just three one sixteen in a row even if it was just random which you wouldn't think it'd be random because it's in seattle you wouldn't think his worst games going to be at home in arizona hasn't been a great team defensively. You wouldn't think it'd be against arizona but even if the odds are one in sixteen you'd go sixteen times sixteen times sixteen just to get those three years four thousand to one and then you go one out of aid to be one of the worst two and then the ones that you know the ones wash so i mean you're looking at thirty two thousand and one it sounds like if it was just assuming arizona had an equal chance to do Make russell do so poorly. The same. As odds is hitting fifteen team parlay and here are the qbr's and i'm gonna go two thousand nineteen back five years ten point nine ten point nine. I double checked. Twenty eight sixty one. Eleven so eleven ten and ten as three. The worst had in his career. Joan is what do you think it's I can recall a game late in. Which and i'm looking at your tweet right now. Seventeen i remember that game specifically because arizona i think was out of it and it was the last week of the season and they ended up beating seattle on the road and it was it was kind of a bad loss and i remember that game specifically but i don't. I did not know that he struggled like this year in and year out and the point that you made. That's that's i think. The most telling is the fact that these are multiple different coaching staff. This isn't belichick. Who has somebody's number or a coach. Who's been in a division and has somebody's number through and through. These are different coaches. These are different staffs in large part a different team because every rosters the same each and every year and still at home to struggle like this. When you would figure everything would be to your advantage. A lot of these games are late in the year. Which you would figure. They're locked in getting ready for a playoff run like they always have been and still he comes up short. Any looks this awful. It's surprising the only way i can explain. It is that arizona hasn't been all that good. It was a flat spot and late in the year. Maybe and if that's the case then this game which is high stakes tomorrow. Wouldn't be the issue and remember. This travel is over eight hundred fifty miles so we're going to have the big home field advantage that we've found on thursday night so a lot of good stuff coming up tomorrow in this game but boy oh boy check out the exact numbers at rj vegas on twitter but to me to be the worst the worst the worst the second worst and then average five games at home. A real shocker. I don't think i've ever been shocked by a stat. And i was looking. 'cause i noticed that russell wilson had his worst to qbr's last two weeks. And i'm thinking okay. Well how's he do against arizona. And i just wanted to get a feel of how bad some of his backyard as workers. I heard different. People say 'oh wrestles. I've never seen him play so badly as he did against the rams well his. Qbr wasn't all that bad. And thus i discovered this. It was a coincidence. That will in the one thing that i would also say is russell's and obviously he's one of the great quarterbacks in the nfl we know this those are super-motivated guys and they know when somebody's gotten the best of them and they take notes and remember they always come back. I wanna perform. Well will he has to know that. Arizona's owned him at home. He asked to know that. Just based on those numbers if we know he's got nome and still hasn't been able to do anything about it. Yeah because in theory that would have stopped years ago. Sure to catch. 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But there's still so much to learn clearly for more tune in to the latest episode of law school theresa's available on iheartradio. Or wherever you get your podcast. Say wednesday tradition here on straight outta vegas. The three biggest games at an early preview vegas style in the nfl and rj. We were going to start in indianapolis or right now. The colts are a one point favorite on pregame.com attackers as we talked about in the headlines. Steam on indie and this was a green bay team that was favored. And by two two. And a half points. When you look at the look ahead it was two and a half and then the coach went all the way up to two down a little bit. it looks like but money on the codes. Flip the favor as what else you got. I think green. Bay's a little undervalue. They've already played the vikings twice. They beat new orleans. Hey some of those winds and those games look more impressive. Considering those teams are better than we thought. Yeah i mean you think about the show. The minnesota lost isn't as bad. There was one horrendous game and otherwise they played. I mean you think about it. They've played lost to a minnesota team. That's played the bass as we talked about at length yesterday of any team. The last four weeks and over the last month and gained was in the last month and they beat that very same team to start the season and they got killed by tapping otherwise. They've won every game and against us more impressive now as well. Yeah no doubt okay. So i think the colts are obviously a team that their strength schedule has been very poor. And you look at it. The fact they were dominated by the browns. I mean if physically not on the scoreboard necessarily i really feel like this coach teams overrated. And i know everyone loves you know. Everyone loves the front office. But yeah i agree with you. I think the value at least initially seems to be on green bay game to jonas. The titans are in baltimore to take on the ravens right now. Pregame.com baltimore's a six point favorite so the ravens who fez not long ago said. I've never seen kansas city and baltimore so far above everyone else whereas baltimore now number six number six i. So what do you got the game. Matchup edge here for derrick henry. He ran all over baltimore in the playoffs last year. And now too key. Injuries callejas campbell and williams on the line. That's gonna really hurt. Baltimore's run defense now. Do we feel like The fact that tennessee one last year in the playoffs is that advantage tennessee or advantage baltimore because on one hand tennessee had a game plan that worked on the other hand baltimore's and we extra motivated. I think both are. I think they cancel each other out last game all right sunday night football. And it's in the backyard of straight outta vegas in vegas. It's chiefs at the raiders. And right now. Kansas city a seven and a half point favorite on pregame.com so kansas city. Great spot here. They've only lost one game all year. It was to these very raiders. Andy reid is great off of a by twenty one ten against the spread twenty one and ten but how are they off a bye during the regular season. It was comparable. I don't have those number. No it wasn't comparable you're insane. What why would you say it's comparable you have no idea right here you go. It's nineteen and four. Is that caused a fifteen and eight against the spread. Nineteen thousand four is comparable to ten dollars for four straight up fifteen and eight against the spread regular season. Twenty one and ten overall. But wha- overall what is the straight up record overall twenty five and six regular season one thousand nine hundred four all right. I'm sorry i misheard you. I heard ten losses. Andy reid is the most famous coach off the bye. Amazing obviously the spreads starting account for it. So that's the big. Three will have a lot more thursday friday fox. Sports radio has the best sports. 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Drew Brees Retires ... Who Do We Want to be the Saints QB? (03/14 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Fantasy Football Today

12:02 min | 4 months ago

Drew Brees Retires ... Who Do We Want to be the Saints QB? (03/14 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"Command aaron jones could not have one hour in the spotlight. We just got done doing. Our aaron jones bonus pot and drew brees retires today. So here's bonus part dubber six since last week and Let's talk about the saints quarterback situation right. Dave you you love to talk. Nfl fantasy vocal nfl and fantasy history and perspective. Let's put drew brees in perspective. This guy was so damn good. He almost finished as qb one three years in a row. Which is just ridiculous was earlier in the day about a decade ago. Man if you drafted him in a dynasty league or your acquired him when he went to new orleans what a fantasy gem he was absolutely and as we sit here today on the podcast. Drew brees retires as the all time leader in nfl passing yards. Eighty thousand three hundred fifty eight. That's gonna get broken pretty soon. Because tom brady's behind him by about a thousand yards. So it's not gonna last but he he had an interesting career. He was drafted by the chargers. Top pick in round two. I believe Same year that ladainian tomlinson went to the chargers by recall correctly and had a good run out there than they drafted philip rivers and he became a free agent and there. There was serious discussion about going to miami. And then when the when the dolphins tried to sign him. He didn't pass his physical. That's going to nick sabin. That came out recently. I believe on the all things covered pod and he went to new orleans and at the time. Everybody was like okay. It's not a bad signing. He'll be with sean payton. We'll see what they do. Oh boy they did a lot. I believe he had one. You'll tell me if i'm wrong. This but ten or eleven straight years was top sex fantasy quarterback. He was insanely consistent. That made him just cherished part of the fantasy football universe and toward the end of his career. A guy who's kind of overlooked drafts. And he's still came through a good percentage of the time he was number one in two thousand eleven and twelve. He was number two behind peyton manning in two thousand thirteen. I can tell you that forcing he was number three. We could keep going. But jamie let's spinner forward to twenty twenty one where we in two thousand twenty one. And and who do you want to sit in florida forty. Tom brady was fifty all time passing leader with two hundred and twelve thousand yards. Who do you want to see as the quarterback for the saints. Twenty twenty one tucson watson options right now. The guys who are who are on the team last year. I would like to see james winston. Get the full time job. That would be nice. But i think unfortunately we're not gonna get james getting the full time job so it's probably going to be combination with whoever it is and tastes mills. Let's just make tastes mill the only guy there because when he was the quarterback of the saints for those four games debris miss with the rib injury. He was a good fantasy quarterback. So i would just like to see a mill and only tastes hill with maybe a rookie to come in eventually and replace taste and fill in here who wanted. I think i'd like to see jameson. That offense i maybe. I'm just a masochist here. And i just want to see a bunch of interceptions all over again but i think there's better fantasy potential for the past sketchers there if james is we saw that in tampa bay in two thousand nineteen and i think they'd be a lot more conservative offensively if it's tastes 'em hell so i think i'd like to see james. I think they'd score more points and get more yards with him. Tastes hill was very good for fantasy scored. Twenty three points then. He scored seventeen points. That was the game at denver where denver had their fourth string quarterback. They didn't have a wide receiver. Starting annually through sixteen passes. We scored seventeen points then. He scored twenty seven at atlanta than scored. Twenty two so twenty two or more fantasy points and six point per passing touchdown these for tesa hill in three of the four stars. We barely saw jameis winston. And i just want to look up michael thomas. Actually i think he had eighty four or more yards. In three of the four games would taste them hill. At least sixteen points in three of the four. Yes and of course the denver game that i just mentioned was the exception and he had thirty seven targets. So i'm just doing the math right now because the news just broke. I wanted to see jamie. Just think dropped out. I wanted to see what michael thomas is. Target share was in those games. Dave so taste hill through eighty two passes and michael. Thomas had thirty seven targets. So i don't know what a forty five percent or something as it should be. You know he's he's he's gonna get the targets but he's not gonna get those targets so if it's tastes hill and jamie had a pop pop onto hq so it's me and you finishing up here but if it's tastes them hill. What does that mean for alvin. Kamara what does that mean for. Michael thomas you know i think. I think that some people might overreact and say well alvin. Kamera's not going to be good because you know only in two of those games to the good people points at sixteen points in one game at twenty two and another. He had ten in the first game with them and then game against denver. You almost wanna throw it out. Only at six p. p. r. points as kind of ugly but Look i think that if the saints go with tatum hill. They know that they've got to try and be a little bit more explosive and they've got to try to get alvin kamara more involved just because tastes quarterback doesn't mean you're just gonna shut everything down and make it the taste some hill show so i think that alvin kamara will still be a top four fantasy pick. There could be a league here and there where people get squeamish about him if day. Some hill is the only quarterback. But here's the other thing. I'll tell you if they move on from janus they say they don't resign them and tastes. Hill is the quarterback to start the year. Do not put it past this saints team to move up and draft another quarterback because even if they go with some mail at janus walk tastes smells all these over older than thirty. He can't be there long term solution at quarterback they will draft somebody so i was wrong by the way With my michael thomas stat. I look to taste hills completions. Not as yeah. He had. He had a hundred and fourteen attempts at eighty two completions. Which by the way is seventy two percents. Pretty good short passes and a lot of them. Were slant to michael. Thomas thirty asked so the target show was thirty two point five percent which is still unbelievably high. But you do see some number one wide receivers in that range in the thirty in thirty percent range. Something like that so You know okay so that makes you feel a little bit better about thomas. Now i'm gonna ask you some rankings questions if hill would you go kamera or henry in half in half people are. I think i could be convinced to go with eric. How would you go camera or barkley. I would probably consider. I think i'd still consider kamerhe over barkley but that's just me not being confident in what the giants are doing. Now if it's jameis winston kamera currently have as your number two running back and pr behind mcadoo. That's where he is with. James says the quarterback. Okay so now. Let's talk quarterbacks or any competent quarterback maybe they go. Maybe they get mack jones. He's the starter and tastes hill fills in. I'd be comfortable with kamera that but it's not just but it's not to say that tatum was incompetent. It's that is not competent. That he doesn't he doesn't throw as much runs a lot and that's his game is running with the funny bone that takes away opportunities from everybody including kamera right. Okay so then. Who would you rank higher in your quarterback rankings janus or tatum hill. If they're both in new orleans and well one of them's going to be the starter as the starting quarterback saying in world. A tatum hills is starting quarterback for new orleans. World is the starting quarterback for new orleans. Who would you rank higher. I honestly i might end up bringing them exactly the same like i'm looking at my rankings. Now i've james fourteenth he's behind joe burrow ryan tannehill. Tom brady would. I really put tastes hill ahead of tom. Brady ryan tannehill. Yeah maybe i would do it if james was gone and they did not draft a quarterback and it's literally tastes them hill is the starter and then mitchell. Trubisky is the backup something like that. Maybe in that instance i would consider moving tastes hill up because he was on pace for eight hundred thirty six rushing yards so he might not get there. But he's gonna obviously crush it with rushing yards touchdowns was he on pace for. He was on pace for sixteen passing and sixteen rushing okay. He he faced the falcons twice. We can't forget that we can't forget that. I'm pretty sure it's going to face the falcons twice again this. Yeah starting quarterback for the same. That's true but he's going to face them twice in sixteen games not twice in four games so you know. His numbers will be a little bit different All right michael thomas. Then let's talk about michael thomas without drew brees. He was great with teddy bridgewater. He wasn't quite as consistent as he was with brees but he was great with bridgewater. We just told you about his four games on pace for one hundred and twenty catches thousand. Three hundred seventy two yards but zero touchdowns in four games with tastes them hill hundred and forty eight targets so anyway he's shown that he's qb proof to a degree touchdowns might be a little bit different but where you ranking michael thomas coming off a bad year he would still. He's going to be a top twelve wide receiver either way breath. I have eighth. that's with the assumption. That james is the quarterback and that is in full. if it's tastes them hill. I would probably move him down to a point where i might not even get him. He'd be behind. Keenan allen allen robinson decay metcalf still keep ahead of julio jones and amari cooper i would still view them as a number one fantasy receiver but lots changed from this time last year to now and i can't quite view him as The high reception mega-stud With with lots of yardage and touchdowns to go with it that i did three hundred and sixty five days ago. And how would you compare him to to awesome players. Who don't catch as many passes in. Aj brown and decay metcalf brown thinking. Get more receptions. This year in in tennessee. I'm excited for him and decay would be ahead of them to if it stays hill. Okay all right. So that's our drew brees pod. Did anybody retired while we were having this discussion. Not that i know of all right. Thanks so much. The dave and jamie and to of you for listening. I wish i could tell you what our next show it'd be might be in five. Probably be tonight or monday. I gotta do some fantasy baseball. Prep so i need them to chill. I got a draft on day. You had a week to do that. Agency is about to kick off this fun. Fun time of the year atom. So put your put your little baseball. Listening to weigh the podcast. I listened to the fantasy baseball today. So i i'm fairly strategy strategies. Not quite because. I haven't heard the starting pitcher previews yet but i've got guys that i like now guys that i don't so i recommend it to everyone listening to that show. We've got an aol draft coming up. I've i i'm telling you to put the baseball away. I haven't done a licks worth of of Research all the white sox dude. Their lineup is going to be amazing. Yeah but that's and their their rotation should be good too. But i don't know boo. They got anything. You've got a young manager who's ready to guide them to the championship. And i know if you're gonna hire somebody with world series experience age really matter should know issue. Thank you bye everybody. I'm gonna miss you. Who was awesome. Yes great well. We'll hear by the owner.

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[213] Divisional Round New Orleans review & Championship Game preview against the Green Bay Packers

Buccaneers Observer

1:22:55 hr | 6 months ago

[213] Divisional Round New Orleans review & Championship Game preview against the Green Bay Packers

"Every year the nfl. It's a new team as far as goals go. We have one putting the finger well coming to the buccaneers observer. Podcast this is row fellows. Today is january. I should look at every top. Twenty seconds zero twenty twenty one and we are two days away from beating the mess out of the bankers pinker pinker into then bankers the packers in the nfc championship and go into disip. Who can't do that can't you can't look past the team. That's what they've coaches say can't do that his fans we can't do it. That's right we got a good show way today. We're gonna be talking about the saints game. What we saw twenty two. We're gonna cover some news and then we're gonna talk about the upcoming pack game. See what a what we think's going to happen and some information on concerning that We got any factor followers now. No because we didn't even watch the last podcast. Did we listened to all the with the. Here's what we did get. We got a lot of comments that me and monitor divorce. Apparently now low energy. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. It was my fault. I was totally distracted. Normally when when. I don't have stuff prepared lot or i'm distracted by something. I'll tell molly i'll say. Okay what is it. We say you take this one year at him and i didn't tell her that because i was distracted and so she kinda caught off. Guard me to sit in there. But the way theo as far as i know we're not getting divorced. Beg refund today. i'll i'll yeah. Let me take over that that'll be in fact Follow jagger follow up. Yes we get a divorce papers. Were filed really like we were so excited on monday. We recorded say. I think that we the odroid atlanta had worn off and the hangover. And we were both just so drained. That's why i felt. I was very tired and drain and it was. We really should have recorded even though we were hung over because yeah the adrenaline still there. We were really excited. We talked about it all day monday. I nabbed we recorded one sunday right after the game but like we said last podcast man. We worship as everyone wanted that one planet. of course who wouldn't want want. Hillary probably would have been better than everyone by you and me. I think the main reason why we didn't do it is because i went off on cussing tangent for about twenty minutes. And i you know called out a lot of people in the media by name and you brought up certain incidences and stuff like that and it was just. I wanted it to be you know happy this. This is a positive thing. I don't want to did all say that until after we'd lose or after the season to realistic. Yeah ain't nothing like blame people who've i love it all right. Let's move on to the saints game. What did we see What was it we said happened and the game. I mean what was our our viewpoint of the game after watching the broadcast. The i haven't watched your tippy so this is still fresh for me. I'm not tainted ma. Tv's i the defense killed it. That's what i would say so. Yeah it was. That game was definitely about the defense. That's it okay. That'll work here. My notes from all twenty two. This is probably the us not. I've ever taken video videos out in the second one was thirteen minutes and a lot of what was me talking about penalties. You know this too much. I don't like doing that. And i don't put all the penalty stuff in there by far but You know it's the saints. And i'm really sick. Her uncle i seen visit. They just do all these little things that makes it. You just come. And it's like we had a We kicked a field goal. Now talking about our special teams and there's a rule that you can't stand within the shoulders of the long snapper ramp. You can't leap over the long snappers you. You can't put your hands on it leap over. You can't put your hand on any player and leap over them. And you have to be. On the line of scrimmage in order to leave you can't get a running start as it's kind of weird rules at got nowadays We actually got flags a few games ago. Devon white did for standing too. Close to the line of scrimmage in front of the snapper. yeah ridiculous. Rock didn't even move. He said there anything. Put his arms. He just stood there and they flagged him for it. Well the saints. What they did in one of our kicks is they had two guys. One guy grabbed the back of the long snapper. Suzy snapped up and pushed him straight down. Another guy grabbed the right guard in pushed him straight down and they had a guide jump over top of those two they they purposely push them down. Yeah you can scour the rulebook. I was like man that's gonna but it's right on the age is in honestly. I love stuff like that. It's kind of like a bill. Check thing it shows a lot of strategy a lot of planning. What at the same time. Like drew brees when he gets you know he throws the ball in the dirt when he's getting ready to get sacked and there's a running back that's fifteen yards away and they won't call it intentional grounding because there was a running back over there you know it's the the What's the heart of the rule. Though the intent of the rule. Yes the intent of the rule to not put your hand on the long snappers because he's defenseless. you know and so what they do. Instead of having the guy who's going to leap put his hand over them. They just two other guys grab grab all of them and push them down. It's the same thing same thing you know what i got on this for someone who hates authority enrolls. You're like a walking and you know all the rules on the different specifications for each rule. You think you do. And then they don't call it. And it just aggravating change. You know what they like. They did this year with the holding. You know they they put a memo out and said yeah. We're not really gonna call holding the watch. It's blatant and They everything up. You're like wait a minute. Here's we watch football for fifty years and holding always been holding announced not holding any more or less the platen come on in of course we had a couple of holding the rest. Were terrible in this game We played a disciplined game. But they They you know. They did their usual stuff. Where they they held in certain moments and drew brees did the thing again. We were great with us and we talked about this in the podcast before the game had gerbils is really good at getting people. Jump off signs and it's not just drew brees. It's some of his offensive. Linemen will do this. You know flinch right before when he does a hard. Count the flinch alignment turn his head real quick or a debris judd his hands out of. He's in the shotgun forward in this time. He did ahead bob he. He did like that when he started to work in like six years ago. Watching philip rivers. Do that get called. The they used to call it all the time. Yeah but i guess that's one of the things they're not calling it anymore like the the game. Who was it a couple of weeks ago. We played a redskins. I mean the washington football team the guy. The quarterback was sh- shooting his hands forward multiple times trying to get to jump off sides either during the hard count stuff and they never called so anyhow. They tried doing that with us a couple of times here and the we we. We beat them Our defensive lineman would jump but they would go across the line they would actually just fall straight down and it made the offense of guys think that they had crossed the line and they would job move and start pointing in offense got called. It was great. I mean there was a lot of chess match stuff going on his game. Yeah our offense of game plan was great. Do you think of the coaching. The all the veteran players are both i think of coaching. This was a really good coaching game. Yeah that's how i felt. I think after the second game was that it was really a failure of coaching. The second game against the sense. Well dr defense the coaching great. We we did and we do a lot of complex stuff. It will really weird stuff all throughout the game. This game. We didn't as much We did do some complex stuff but we we were. We played more man coverage than we have all season long. And i talk about how we will drop our outside. Linebackers will drop them into coverage. You know when. I talk about it here on the podcast. About how many times we do it this time. We did it once. Thank god that was what we didn't play zone. You know when you drop them back and that one time we did it james whizzes touchdown barrett gone back. But it wasn't it wasn't bears fall by any means carlton eight ball. I believe so. Yeah i believe it was. Carlton davis he got. They got confused. I mean it was. It was a confusing play. You can look at the defense and none of our guys knew what was going on. Our defensive line was confused. everybody was confused. And how could they not be running for us to come in now. Yeah got how they starting them off as wide receiver. He was out spread out. Yeah yeah and they did a double date or double hand off thing. They handed it to somebody coming in and motion and then he tossed it to jameis winston who had run in the opposite direction. Motion is any of this. And i think it's perched on this one. I was talking to senator. Oh you're screaming on that one that you were a so angry going. He's only in there. Because germany has a noodle arm and can't throw that far matter. Yeah and drew. Brees did not play well during this game. He was a large part of the game. I actually you know we always talk about. Did we win. Did we lose the obey beat us. We lose it ourselves. You know the stuff like that. They lose it themselves. I was right on the line with this about. They lost this game. Drew brees did not play well and it really wasn't because of our pressuring i mean we we. We got some pressure in. There never really hit him. Hit him a few times but not a whole lot but we were in his face and in his lap and so he was happy to get the ball out but he was just throwing bad pass as bad decision. Every every interception we have is a bad decision by drew brees. Now the devon white interception was beautiful. I mean he just. He reached out and grabbed. That thing was a work of art. The last interception of the game. Which is the last pastor breathe probably will ever though interception us love it hear. The buccaneers david. That tipped the ball up. Yeah in mike. Everton ended up intercepted him. I we have three quarterback sent whole game per espn but yeah. It's hard to get drew. Brees in aaron rodgers is going to be just as hard more difficult. Because it's kind of like tom brady. You feel pressure they're gonna throw it. Yeah this is how it is erin like you don possibility that. And he's gonna run to go although he doesn't do that as much anymore. But we'll talk about that. We'll talk so anyway. Yeah drew brees did not play a good game. They had dropped passes. But we had seven seven dropped passes to in enzo to rock one by antonio brown to godwin and we can beat them by twenty four. Yeah yeah the one beautiful plant beautiful. Play the one that i think it was. I can't remember know the one with mike evans. Where do who's the guy that always covers. Twenty seven lattimore. Lattimore a jumped up and knocked the ball out in the end zone. That was that was a great play by him. At that was a beautifully designed offensive play and they had been setting it up for the the the first part of the game and it was it was so it was really a work of art. Ed dolly it would have beaten anybody else in the league but lattimore you know. He's he's pretty good. Especially pretty good with mike evans. Anybody else yeah. That would have been a touchdown for sure when yeah. It was. Beautifully designed beautifully designed. We had some. We have some really. There was a lot of good chess match going back and forth but besides that we were fighting just like every down we hate each other the say in the book and ears man. They were fighting litter especially our defense. Our defense was in their face every down when we were pointing out of a d. yellen at their sidelines You've yellen film. You know we tackle them get up in their face rattle. We were pushing even little. Smb sean murphy. Bunting walking by an offensive lineman like going back and he sticks his arm out in in like elbows. The guy in the stomach you know just like get outta my way. He played great. Smb was law over the hillman. Bevan white were the key to our defense isn't love that me. Kind of s has mountain had the best season. Show up when the lights are bright awesome. Yeah he really really did and he was all over. The field and winfield to would feel was the well. Gosh all of they. They just played really good. They were really sound. Although i say that but we had like three busted coverage is one of them was on the james winston play But a a couple of them drew brees didn't see which that's unusual for drew brees. Yeah he he did not have a good game. I don't happen. That will happen. Hopefully we can move that into the the packers game. Because i said that playing the packers that they did not they played pretty bad a game we brought our if they bring their their a plus game we bring our plus game will win but we'll talk about all that anyhow okay so it's going to say that shipping is on the field. It translated later said the players on social media like talking shit and they never do that. Our players that do not do that ever ever ever ever and so for them to be comedy and after the game. I think that just shows i. I don't know that they got under our skin but to me. It just seemed like we were waiting for that moment. Yeah we definitely physical. Yeah we were. We were tackling some great tackling in this game. And you know we were just hit norman and not saying sorry. That's danger ryan jensen in forty seven. What's his name on the saints. Yeah alex ends alone. You ends alone. Whatever they do not like each other. I mean there's probably at least at least a dozen times where they were questioning chauvin and and there was quite a few times where you saw jensen. When he snapped the ball he sought forty seven out. It was crazy. I do too but he he had jensen was so calm cool collected in this i mean he was. He was hitting people and and do as a nasty but a that whistle blew. He'd turn around and walk away. There was one time where he got up in. Somebody's face and started pushing. And then you saw some click eighty when he just turned his back on him and walked away. It was great. it was great but Yeah remember when. I came here for something happened but you saw johnson and a guy go in onto the saints sideline. Yeah and there was the that was him. Okay hayward like that the whole game whole game. It was great. I love to see. Apparently nobody on our offense guy because everybody was kind of picking on him. I don't remember seeing him in the first couple of games. That blonde hair. I remember seeing him. But i think there's a couple of lawmakers injured or maybe his hair does wasn't long at the time. Yes yeah my my first. Two notes are one bucks talking shit on defense every playing pushing shoving getting up in their face and in my second note was the shaun murphy. Bunting is all over the place a plane fantastic with great energy and then i got a note third quarter at nine fifty their last score. That was the last time. They scored third quarter. We scored seventeen unanswered points. After that. that was the touchdown to smith on cockrel. Right after davis got hurt and which it was a great coverage by cockrel it was liberals really i mean he literally had his hand on the ball trying to get it out of so cannot knock him for that. It was twenty to thirteen at that point and then we just went on a roll after that. Just it was the turnovers. It really did it. So you know fifty eight barrett. He dropped back in coverage one time. That was the touchdown. Throw by winston Nobody else we played a totally different defense and we have all year long. It was great. It was great. I loved it. I mean it was really the only the play on the plane and bring out something you've never used before. Yep yep yep you're exactly right they did and we did it on offense to You know because. I said this to you when we were sitting in the bar We were running. And i was like third lining up the same way for this run and they'd never do that. Bucket is we do not line up. We do not run the same place ever you more than once in play but we were doing basically the same play i was. I was just like what they're setting something up here. They're sets up here and they did and it was. It was awesome. I love this stuff. Man that's chess. You know because we don't do that we we have. Our set plays that we run. We don't care what you're doing on defense. We're going to do this but we didn't do that this time. You could see us changing plays according to what. They were doing defenses. eventually they did. They weren't expecting so where we setting them up to do something. Yeah we have quite a few times. We set up which was great. I was like this is. That's kind of what you have to do. Against quarter or so experiencing degrees narrating the truck can't get turkey him and ted making you know playing how you want him to play or doing what you want him to do. Yes and you know. They've been watching our our film all year long. They been seen as you know. We play a lot of zone We drop our inside or outside linebackers back coverage a lot You know we we do To deep safeties. We'd want to you know we. We disguise things and we didn't disguise things. This time we didn't drop are outside linebackers in the coverage. I just totally bid stuff. We'd never do before. And i think that'll probably help us against aaron rodgers to who is another -perienced smart quarterback you know they're sitting there go with shit we don't know what what gonna do so that they were lining up exactly how they executed the play like. Because i know we do a lot of disguises and stuff typically so. They weren't actually disguises times. What you're saying no not a lot not like normally mean normally you can look at our defense before snap snap defense imposts snap defense and his too fucking defenses. This time you you could look at pre pretty much. Tell what they were doing. You know they would play that but they were. They were expecting us to change. Yeah we did right so we wouldn't during the play in the screwed him up. You know smart it was it was it was great. It was great coach. Gregg coaching are run. Game was fantastic. A way way way underrated they are run game and our defense is what one us of this game that we we. We were open up great halls. We were getting positive yards like just about every time and it opened up play action for us and two for net rain. Great ronald jones ran great. But our offense aligned really did great blocking is this. I mean they. we didn't get they. Don't get enough credit for that. We've been doing it. Great for the past number and we did it again and listen to and you know the saints got a pretty good run defense. We re open up huge holes so not like a four net. Close the game we had. We had Four minutes left. I think it was and we needed a first down to to be able to run out the clock and he went. We ran for net three times in a row. You got three yards four yards and then five yards i down and it was victory formation after their and they were stacked the box you know we we got into run formation. They do we run it. They tried stopping it. They couldn't do it. Nothing they can do. And that's a really impressive. I can get re run d. r. run game was pivotal themes fiennes. Just firing on all cylinders. If the receivers were quick dropping ball like even close yet we had a few missed tackles here especially for. Tsl's a but you know we. We had some really good solid tackles and we didn't have disastrously in this tackles popoff. Three runs right. Yeah so you know. Seems like we've got that a little bit under control but our truck passes manage. Just would i don't get it. I don't get it. I don't either especially with tom. Brady's accuracy brian. That's the thing it seems like. It's it's just too accurate for was like almost as prizes. It's in their hand in. That is a thing. With our wide receivers evans godwin these guys. They're they're used to happen to get themselves in a weird positions to catch the ball. But you don't with brady's right but antonio brown. Yeah all my gun. She's to he. He dropped one. It was a screen pass. He'd swung out to the flaps. A screen pass. He had three blockers in front of him with only one defender and it was a good forty yards open-field if he would have caught that the chances are pretty good it would have been touchdown but it would have definitely been twenty yards. No dad went. It was just like all he just dropped it. Flat amy right in his hands. Yeah his like he was excited he was like. Oh go ahead touchdown so there you go. There's what we have and you know. I hope that we can carry this forward. This momentum I hope that our our offensive line played great. All the guys they'd great Detainee did pretty good. I mean handsome screwed up plays but they all did. Every single one of them worst screwed up a couple times more pet. Did jason didn't cost us right right. Well you know. That's a lot of brady's saying you know you you mess up off as each is gonna throw the ball. He's going to get it out fast. but yeah. Our secondary are linebackers defensive. Line was you know they go okay. again they had a series where they just dominated and then the rest of the game. They basically did what they were supposed to do. Yeah well i mean. It's hard winter. Breeze he does not make it easy on the defensive line. He's he's so damn hard sack so if we can carry this going in and we'll we'll talk about that. So that's the saints game going over my notes real quick. Make sure there wasn't anything. Stand out at a missing. I had a lot of notes on my sheets. But not on a lot of notes. That i felt were important to talk about for the podcast. Here i'm going to start going through some news. Yeah go ahead and hit the news all right. Most of this is it coaching. The coaches are just going on around league. That i found interesting of course not time of year so but the for i'll go through this i the. Nfl has announced not the super bowl will host twenty thousand fans. Seventy five hundred will be vaccinating. They had to throw the centene vaccinated healthcare workers that they're giving free tickets to the game. What yeah wait a minute. Hold on whereas i again so twenty. Two thousand aren't going to be at the game us so what what how what are we. What is raymond james stadium. Hold seventy thousand somewhere. So we'll we'll say twenty percent capacity. Okay now out of those twenty two thousand seven thousand are to healthcare workers what you said vaccination a vaccinated healthcare workers vaccinated healthcare workers. So that's bird tickets. I know these tickets going for like twenty thousand dollars. A piece need to sell your ticket. I would like to book but two bucks. Yeah yeah like how are they selecting says people and so that only leaves fourteen thousand. They're gonna sound twenty lamb here now might make a career switch real quick can do it okay. So coaching searches around the league. The rails are hiring were he mourns as defensive coordinator which shining absolutely ridiculous because everywhere. He's gone the defense is trash. Like what is why is he just as coveted coordinator. I do not understand. I the rams yeah. I'm not really sure what happened to their defensive coordinator and another former buccaneers coach. Dirk cutter has announced his retirement. Yes i saw that very sad. He so young to be retired. Dennis fifteen early college. I don't know. I mean when you retire to if you had made and coach money. I don't know how it just seems. Like i mean he really is an offensive guru. he he's schemes. Players opened better than any coach in the league if he asked me You know i was one of the things used to drive me crazy. About james winston is he just wouldn't see these open. Receivers that cutter would scheme open is like You know you're the guy wide open in the end zone and you're throwing you know some crazy ball to the sideline on out routes like what do you do but yeah i mean he did it us. You know the atlanta game. We know any skin guys opens. It's a it's very hard to to do that in nfl. I imagine these guys get so burn out though like it's such a grind and especially you know i mean he's had he had the bucks tenure which was just three years and then he was only there two or three there you know i'm sure it just becomes a lot be moving your family and you know to keep having to go new places and unfortunately the nature of the business is not very hard to succeed there so i i can imagine why you would just get over it and was running to be done. Yeah i mean. I understand it too but it might be one of those things where it's come back. Yeah i mean for the right opportunity. Not he's a friends with or you know something like yeah. 'cause i mean these coaches i mean. He's been he's been coaching for what thirty-five years. Yeah winston eighty s. Yeah all of these coaches had become. That's what they've done their whole life and they it's not like they spend eight hours forty hours a week you know. It's a is what they did. They re live eat. Breathe this stuff you know watching film development schemes and cutters definitely that got. He's to me. He's more like a desktop clipboard. Hoarders what were you know. He's he's much more into the the scheme and up stuff that he has the raw raw personnel type stuff probably never make a great head coach but office coordinator. He's he's the top list of you asked me so i think the nfl's losing something there. Either back he will. He will take a couple of years off right. Yeah he's he. He just signed with atlanta. What a year ago two years ago you know and you probably got five year contract with them. So he's just going to live off. That money for a couple of years might even go coach to high school or college. That's that's taken a break for football coaches you go coach high school or college awhile and then come back but yeah he's too young or come back in. it will. Tough year for falcons. The whole team is going to be gone is gonna be a whole totally different team and probably affected him mentally and emotionally. Yeah you know he's distraught. He'll get over it in a year. Oh come back. Hopefully i like dirt. Were near this looks crazy to me. I'm just i can't believe this. The texans interview josh mccowan for their head coaching vacancy. Thank you quarterback. Yes and he's still under contract as a quarterback by the team like what can do is is bill. O'brien still lead initiate. Because this creek coach i b. I mean he wasn't a good quarterback so he was tough. Yeah yeah can't do teach know. Yeah i know. I saw that part. What he's young too. I don't i don't know and it just seems like a huge leap from me. A quarterback to jumping into a head coaching role. Like to me. you do what. Ba does with all these former players you know. Have the assistance have the position coaches and then he kind of move up that way like a huge but they also interview jim caldwell so they're kinda going both ends of the experience spectrum no experience two years of experience so i don't know what is good experience the colts right when they did put again. What's his face peyton. Manning wants to see that coach for the coach for the detroit lions. Yeah remember. he's the one. I was talking about from the dolphins when i think fell being fired. He took over as interim head coach. And then he's been heading coach at new orleans. He's he's kinda coach. I'll like you know just that old old style tough mentality so it'll be fun to watch him with detroit. Who knows a full. Even last you know those type of coaches are you gone you know. There's you know the players of they've got too much power now they don't want they don't want to the very few player that really want to be out there. Busting their butts all the time. And i'm not. I'm not putting the players down but you give me a choice between going out there and run in two days or sitting in the house plane. Xbox sit in the house play xbox better. But that's probably why you're not in the nfl ralph. That is the the sole reason. Only reason kicker kicker you know so so it'll be interesting because he's old school and he's not apparently to own school but young. Boy the sean mcvay other lamelo floor covered i. I'll talk about now before and a second son. Just i don't get it The last i've seen were thanks Speaking of the falcons they are expected to hire. And i don't know m saying is wrong. i hope to guy and but this is how. It's spelled dean pees as defensive coordinator flake year eights. Ps that's how it's done. That is unfortunate. I'm sure he's used to buy now. Grade school was probably the worst time of his life. If eat if that's who they hire. I'm looking forward to that address chunk and then they're also expected a higher dave rag on as offensive coordinator gold and this last one. This has no connection the buccaneers whatsoever. Or maybe don't know he might a coach there but it was just somebody that i recognize. So i thought i would bring it up Vikings offensive coordinator slash assistant head coach. Gary kubiak is officially retiring from the nfl. Yeah he's the vikings assistant head coach. Offensive coordinator yeah. So i now and you're you kinda wonder like vava's choice whereas the retire enviro you no no. There were dumpster. Fire this year. Devon white has nineteen tackles for a loss or no gain this season. He is leading the league in this thing. Handy miss games now that that's normally volatile david's. Yes says the young box passing the torch. Yeah the water. David played good zaentz. Yes yeah great tackles and just the old school plate your feet push ordering their gut. Tackle tackles the pad crack in tackles. Rod cast is love. It miss those days. Miss kind of tackles x. Actually we had quite a few of it on our on our defense. You look like these guys were bannon determined not to. I think they were bound and determined to put these guys in third and they probably practice for deonte harris a little shifty fast mother. They were writing for have even though we didn't play even though he got to really long run backs on special teams. That won her. All right so we got the packers coming up and Some of the other podcasters have decided that you know cheese this week and i screwed up eight cheese on a sandwich yesterday while he was thinking about it with the chick-fil-a always get the deluxe with bacon. And they said there's american cheese. Okay i was thinking about something else. I guess for i. I'm not willing sacrificing bye-bye. You love your cheese. Lasagna fantail an quiche season are all cheese but you know i was thinking sliced cheese. That's what you that was. You were willing to sacrifice this point. I walk across single right dom taking the team here doing your part. So we're going to lambeau field which she knows a very iconic field to play in. It's it's an old school you can get and i think they're going to have fans in the stadium not full capacity but again around twenty thousand. Now it's I i wanna say at sixty five hundred odd other still thought they were for this game. They were owned up some more. I have in my at sixty five hundred fans will be in attendance our. Yes so yeah. That's not going to help them. The crowd is not going to be a factor in this game week when they played the rams one of the deans. Lambo leave there on. Nobody there to play another his teammate. If they did beat the mess out of the rams okay but you know the rams they were hurting they had players out on the andrew whitworth tackle. He got hurt at the end of last season in november and he had just come back he came back in seattle game the first week and then the second week it was his first day back are not as i back. It was the second gate back against green bay. And so you know the packer and not saying that as whitworth fault but he got got injured during the season they started allowing a lot of sacks compared to when he was in so i think it did have an impact in him. Coming back from ira. He's maybe not necessarily one hundred percent so they did. They got four socks on jared goff and they were rattling him like he did not play. Well he just looked. I mean they just kind of eat the crap out of them so there was that we have a secret weapon coming back in the davita van. Oh my gosh explanation point. I was watching. I was watching footage of a hill hitting a sled. I was like all man. He's back it wasn't like he was taking light either. He was hitting the damn thing. Oh my gosh. I did not expect this at all. Meaning are and neither did the media apparently because they were all pissy that the nfl covered it. Peter schlager schleyer jose. He i think he tweeted i. Then he was coming back and be a had they had asked him like two hours before that the press conference and he was like you might be hearing my nappy. A media funny. Yeah well i'll tell you what if vita comes back. And even if he plays normally he plays what Seventy percent of the snaps seventy ran in that area hillman helmeted sue normally are between sixty five and eighty percent depending if he comes back and he plays half of that you know if he does forty percent of thirty percent of the snaps it could be a huge factor especially in the run game. No it'd be like twenty twenty snaps maybe twenty snaps out of sixty. Yeah so well. And that's what they really. The packers really killed the rams last week in rushing right up the gut and they had hundred and eighty eight yards rushing total. Aaron jones got ninety nine. You know they're not gonna do that against us. It's not happening even with vida al lake you know. They're they're not getting that much. And so i think that was one of the major differences in that game and another side of the ball. The rams a hotter pretty good day rushing to cam akers had ninety yards and a touchdown. So i feel pretty confident that we can win that battle with vida. You look at our football team right now and compared the teams that are left. We are the best football team. No question about it. I mean we've got a great running game we've got great receivers when they can catch all We got great coaching. We got a great offense of line. We got a great defensive line. We got great land backers secondary's on fire. There's no other team that can say that we are above average at every level except special teams tackling plock edmund. It's it's like there's no other team that can compete now. You bring vida. There's no there's nobody in. Yeah that's it's ridiculous how we're going to curb. Stop everybody for if we play if he plays thirty percent of the plays this weekend. Then there's no doubt we're gonna win and if he comes back in the super bowl and plays fifty percent sixty percent of is. There's there's nobody in the league. That could stop that man. And that's just gonna free every body else up out dominant. We were defensive beginning of the year with him and then he gets out and we slowly started getting worse We played great last week. Defensively a lot of that was due to juries. Now now i'm not trying to take this away from our defense. Our defense played great. They came running to play. Yes yes when we need it. On and they were they were they. Were ready to draw people in dirt. They were hitting hard. They do had a lot of energy so by taking anything away from them. But when you got vida cover that middle and yet sue in that middle that just freezing inside linebackers do whatever they wanna do. You know they don't have to worry about anybody. Run up the middle for dang sure and plus the pressure. That's feed of gets on quarterback so quick and this is going to be ridiculous. The the packers lost their left tackle in week. Sixteen in you. Now that yeah. They're left tackle. David bachtiar remember that an acl tear in week. Sixteen and then they've got billy turner playing in his place and turner played right guard last year for the team and he was pretty bad but apparently got replaced lost his job. This season and yeah interesting to see who we put over there. Jp peer barrett right. And you know i mean. But he didn't aaron rodgers thing. It's sacked last week by the rams hair raja's again he's hard to sack he's like drew brees. It's like if you get pressure on him. He's got throw it. We did to four times. Yeah so hopefully we can repeat that or something yeah. We intercepted him twice. One with a pick. Six right yeah so yeah we got four sacks and then we hit him twelve times so we need this shit out of them and they ended up pulling him at one point and they put in their backup. I think we sacked him to yes. I mean that's not going to happen this week. Maybe a yeah. I know i know there are different team. We're a different team. We're better but they do. They play a little bit different. Now you know from what i saw like you said they do a lot of runnin especially that power running straight of the middle and Uh can happen. They do a grabbed on. Rpo's crap time and the pros killed us with the chiefs. We had no defense against it. We look like try. And we're gonna have to come up with something and if we if we get vida back that'll free up our linebackers to stop the harp. And you know it'd be great. I'm super excited about getting feedback. Silver exciting especially if he goes out there and he's not he's been gained ready shape. I i will say remember when he met from his calf injury last season and it did take him. If you game the sick get back in. That was his first season. Earn now well now. I don't think so. He was injured both seasons and he's playing. He had injuries early and then came in. And then it kind of took him a little bit to get injustice But even still sixty percent. I will take any day. I i'm excited about the number of reps said when i saw him running and hitting the slate and everything i was like. Wow you can't even tell this guy just had a broken ankle he's out there hidden ronin and it's easier to come back from than like an ligament tear i've always heard sure okay So yeah that's that's super exciting. Man super exciting. He's like my favorite player. He's just so much fun to watch on. Film is there's this. I've never watched anybody. That's fun him You know. Aaron donald. He watch him and just the strength and the power in the speed. You're like wow. This is incredible but the has got something. That's just a it's just like almost every play just the way he just tossed his guys and you just see house how much they struggle with strong. Yeah just in. The center of gravity is so low. You know he can take hit from the side or double teams. Fuck man super exciting. It plus you know when he when he bullrushes or decides he's going to get to the quarterback you've got to two and a half seconds. He's going to get their union stopping. So that's that's super exciting and if we can get him in early and Yeah i get aaron rodgers. He gets frazzled. Emotional elmo chenal incentive pissy bitch and it's just so easy to get him out and remember the last time him in sioux kept going out. It was like talking. Shit can you imagine getting vena back. And being able to host the two of them together the quarterback. Everyone's been talking about how good the packers have been playing the last six weeks in. I wanna either breakdown else tells why the wrong. Well it's one of those things like They played really shitty teams. Not washer football team. Thank played the bears twice the lions eagles panthers in the titans so the only winning team they played then was the titans. We'd be besson. Did beat the shit all in titans. Those like forty to fourteen was absurd so you could make the argument that yet. They'd beat the crap out of la bad teams and they also beat the crap out of the good teams. So i could see where you could make that case but again we have to remember the quality of your opponent matters to say. Oh aaron rodgers playing lights out. Well yeah. He is but he played really crappy teams. So i mean. I do think that it diminishes out a little bit. Yeah yeah we're going to have to be on our cues. Of course you can say that about every game but you know those those. Rpo's man. i mean. I don't want to say. They run exclusively but they do it a lot. You know in the win. The came to city chiefs played us. They did a lot. Rpo's burned us with that crap. We had no answer we a so. It was so discouraging to watch it. Because you knew it was coming and we didn't even try to stop it. You know it was basically. We just tried to tackle him after they call it the ball or whatever. It was like Man so did the packers on diesel. We'll play now. The changed up They they rented a couple times with us but now they're just doing it crazy out constantly. That shame offense. You know in the shade tree. There's probably a name for the floors. He's from the shayna intrigued. And they're all -fensive people and then the rpo's the really wants abroad in the league and the floors you've seemed like he's just embraced it and Aaron rodgers the really embrace it. 'cause you know aaron rodgers. His whole thing used to be kind of like roethlisberger was broken. Plays that really. He would capitalize on you. Flush him out of the pocket he'd run over to the right and zig it down the field fifty yards to an open receiver. Or you know. He'd run it for twenty yards. Whatever he's not doing near as much now you know he's really standing in the pocket you know doing these three step drops singing it and not not really relying on his innate physical abilities like used to now when i watched the rams game and tell me if you noticed concern not it looked to me like the rams were plano out his own defense because air. Rhonda's just destroyed them in the seems like every time he throws the middle of the field. There were three is kind of around the non anywhere close. I mean the dude would kind of get tackled but they were still picking up first downs like it was nothing. Yeah in aaron rodgers is crazy accurate. Yeah he's knuckle whole lot of bad balls and the intercept and it was hard. That's why we got to last game. I wouldn't count on that. This game would surprise me if we did too. Because we're awesome but you know he just generally makes good decisions. He's got a rocket arm fast release and got some good receivers to he's kind of onto atoms. And then that laird. Scott smith and his preview he wrote. I'll read a bit from his piece. Davante adams was the. Nfl's was unstoppable receiver and twenty twenty. He has caught at least six passes and all but one game so far this year including the playoffs and incredibly his scored in fourteen of the packers. Seventeen games who lathered now devante. Ok yeah he lasted without like he finished the season with one hundred and fifteen catches for one thousand three hundred seventy yards and eighteen touchdowns just ridiculous and the latte. The last total leading the league's eighteen touchdowns. I'll missing two and a half games so gonna stunned receiver here. A lot of its yards after the catch. You know break. Aaron rodgers is like brady. He likes to throw the ball very accurately. So these guys can just keep going with. It won't get it very very big factor in their game. Well that's why are tackling is gonna come in but to coverages. We gotta make sure we don't we. That's that's the danger of playing man coverage. Now i love man coverage mainly because i'm selfish and it's a mix it so much easier when watching game film dell who screwed up but Yeah we played a lot of man coverage soda. Instead of the saints. It was very interesting. We both played similar defenses but on man coverage if you screw up that's an open receiver whereas own coverage. If you screw up. There might not be a receiver in your zone. So it's like no harm no foul but you screw up on man coverage you know you trip you fog and you cover the wrong guy. Something like that's an open receiver that you know a year. You have to really be on your ps and qs when you play coverage you know honestly. I don't know what would be best with rogers. You know 'cause zone coverage has got a lot of benefits to it you know it's it's better for run stopping You know man coverage is horrible for run stop you know because you can have the receivers run down the field a bit next thing you know you got your secondary's down the field. So by their soft run. Yes zone you know. They're all turned around. Basically looking at the play happen they could see if it's gonna be iran. They can run up and stop it so you know. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. And honestly i think this game playing a a good mix. More heavily zone might workout better. Because they're in such a good running team. I don't know i honestly don't know i don't i don't have an answer for this is going to be so entertaining to see what Our defensive coordinator is going to pull up because he did. He did a great job. Last week is in scots. Most piece he was talking about. Carlton davis you know. He does in every Supreme sorry In every preview he does like the key matchups and so davante adams and carlton davis was one of these key matchups and he said about carlton davis that he allowed one reception for sixteen yards against new orleans and receivers could only get one point one yard of average separation from him when they were targeted with him in coverage yeah are sticking our got stuck to their receivers last week. It was really good when nine man coverage like i said the only time they had open receivers was when we had blown coverage. I think they'd happened three times. A day twice bruce. Brees didn't even see it. So yeah we had a pass breakups. The easter would they call him are infants. Toddlers toddlers the secondary man. They were pissed salty. So and then you gotta worry about rogers. He's rue seventy four deep passes in two thousand twenty which was the second most in the league and he completed thirty one. Which was the most in the joe and on those passes. He had twelve touchdowns and no interceptions. So i know well. I love to pick one of those off land into a false sense of confidence he did. I'll say he got huge confidence. Yeah and he will throw some dumb throw. He really will and a lot of times. Hold gopher the deep shot when he's got a better guy on because he just wants to get that shot in there so we got an opportunity. That's a good point. Be nice to see winfield touchdown or interception or whitehead. i'd like to see whitehead. Get one Man there's gonna be an exciting game. I know it's going to be so nerve is the is still supposed to snow. I don't know i haven't seen you know. Okay let's talk about this now because every mentioning that. I feel like i hate the cold. I hate it so much. I just hate. We live where we live. you know. it's not. We don't get along of snow. Maybe but it does cold to me Like now it's like in the forties like right now and i can't handle is too cold. I think a few years ago when our was really cold and we were getting in like the teens regularly and i was just absolutely miserable. But as everyone's kind of making a big deal about the weather and i think the team is trying to poop mindset mindset mantra. They her every time they talk about it they're like it's a mindset it's a mindset the mindset of trying to talk themselves out of the fact that they're not going to be freezing there in two thousand two when we broke this streak of never having one in less than thirty two degrees now as last time. We've done it so before between it. So the between two thousand three hundred twenty nine thousand nine. We have not won a game below forty degrees until this year so this year now granted from two thousand three to twenty one thousand nine hundred thought but we've only we only played four of those games in that period. And so you're like it's a rare thing. Snow games a real rare. But you know. That's where. Tom brady was snow game. Against the the rate of course this year we played twice in less than forty degree weather and that was. can you guess where it was washington and of chicago. Who would we. would we play between the atlanta vikings. No they were gonna dome giants so we won both of those so the you know how about this for football math. Okay we beat the packers. The packers beat the rams. The rams beat us house our so. Kill us right calculus. Okay but you know what they have. Lost three of four conference championship games under aaron rodgers. Okay he's only one but on the other hand and this is the first time they played a game at lambeau never done that. They've never done that with roger really but he has a career. One hundred and eight point five passer rating at lambofield and they are eight and one at home. This season phenomenal long around. Cancel out right right so they were thirteen. Three last year made it to nfc. Championship got beat by the forty niners. Right yes the forty niners. Yes they lost at san francisco right so the thirteen three this year. Nfc championship now. If you think that the last year's forty-nine or teams are better than the this year's buck beat and now if if we win this it will be a simply amazing feat in because you got. Tom brady changed. Everything's been playing same. Basically the same system with saint coach for twenty years. He comes here totally different system totally different language and we go to the super bowl with this man that that is a huge accomplishment. Are you worried about patent homes. Were what's his face and buff allow as his aim johnson. I'm not worried about buffalo at all not claim city. You always got to worry about them because they're just so tricky but We played them close in first time. Yeah we plan that they were right. I think the league them figuring out. And i think i think if we can stop these. Rpo's with roger. We could definitely do with kansas city. You know on the same team really. Kim cities a lot more trickier. They do a lot of just weird stuff on offense but You know as far as deep threat up running attack and all that stuff takata the same team offensively and so if we could beat packers i don. I don't think came city. It'll be that difficult. And i'd love to see. The bills became the city. Mean to me. Do i would love. Because i want to see tom brady. He'd met here. It is the bills have been beat by tom. Brady for twenty years. They finally go to the super bowl. Tom brady beats clancy on my ass. I would just. Hey that would be five super bowls that they've lost they have never won the superbowl. I don't think they've gone four times. They went four times in. Lost will be five times. Wow wow so that. That'd be a great story line there. I think that'd be a better story line then but see here we are. We're talking about the skip. It over the packers man coach. Sorry what you know. And i think another thing with the rams lake how the packers beat the rams last week was they. I mean they got to go off a lot and that is not happening with us. Like they're not getting past our offense offense. Wine will need them if they do. Brady yeah you know. He's he's just. He's just very hard to tackle and cossack frazzle. Yeah we say this. You know like brady just going to do it. But you know. Every quarterback has their off days. But this We have just way too many eat players great coaches every even if brady doesn't play well you know which i think so. The we're talking about turnovers earlier we are now at a plus twelve. Whoa in turnover ratio. But they are The packers are an a plus seven. Now close yeah. Seven eight five down. Yeah yeah but they. There's were not interceptions. Were fumbles so right. Yeah yeah. Rogers does not throw interceptions and we are ten and no when we want when we win the turnover battle sweet voice. We a great tournament. That devon white intercession was so beautiful. And then the vaughan david baton pass catching it. And then jamal dean's interception was beautiful man. Smp's interception or winfield punching the ball out right into devon would bounce right up to seven whitesands. The defense plays like this. There's no question it's going to. It's going to be s. No doubt about all right. I have the out just a little side note. I watched the mic'ed up from last week. The whole front the whole league and air. Rhonda's was miked up and there crime worse so much worse. That matlin floor is such a beta. Like i do not understand. Only isn't like i don't know how they respect. I don't think they do like. I know it's a first of all. He looks like a model. That and that's the same thing when shopping do not get. I don't get it. How do you get the respect of these guys. You should have scars and missing teeth and stuff. Just it's just the sport and like peak masculinity and you have a bunch of ways that are you know sport it's competition it's testosterone. And then you have these beta males on the. I don't get it but Well that's always been a thing with me and coaches you know like even bruce arians. How can you have these coaches. That are so out of shape. Andy reid yes. You're you crack me up with you. Were talking about. Bruce arians came. He said he's wearing a maternity dress. Fake it won't. You said that. I could not see who looked like maternity dress. A i pac man. He was looking rough on the sideline in after the after game conference. I was really worried about him. I was like maybe he looks bad but it must have been the lighting solemnly. Probably he's got a lot of red undertones anyway so alcohol. I now okay. I'm like after the injury report. Then we wrap it up fast all right antonio brown his out lane. He's not playing now. He didn't know that now they're worried. About what the plane ride his swelling. I guess the same shit. Where roge- joe i don did with last week interesting so that means uh scott. He'll be out there in johnson. Both of them. Johnson quite catch. Yeah social media keeps replay and from all the different angles. There was there. Were so many. Plays in this game where i went this was. This was the play that sealed the game. I made a few plays later. This was the plane sealed. The game that that one. I was a third and eleven and he caught that there was just like. Oh we got to kind of okay. Winfield got hurt. Apparently in practice. Thursday i guess because he did not practice friday he is questionable. Did it what. What's the injury Ankle mike evans with his knee. Injury was limited all week. He's fine chris godwin with a quad injury. He's limited all week. He's gonna play Ronald jones with the quad and the finger. He was limited wednesday and thursday and it was a full participant on fridays. And he's got to go jeremiah. Ledbetter returned practices week with the calf injury and he was a full participant all week. We've got our whole defensive line back yeah aly. Maher pet has a pec injury but was a full participant. All week sean murphy bundy and has a quad slash ankle injury and he was limited wednesday and thursday but a full participant on friday. Tape ep with his knees. He did not he and actually his knee. He's listed with a knee injury and then slash not injury related and he did not practice all week but he doesn't need. Sue had his veterans day off on friday. So he's fine. And then jordan whitehead had a knee injury. He was limited wednesday thursday but a full participant on friday. They had me scared every second. I was like winfield and whitehead are gonna be out. Oh my god. That'd be disastrous. Yeah i i haven't heard any more about so antonio brown's only one that's for sure correct and then winfield's listed as questionable so i don't know we'll see On the packers side. They've got like as many guys as we do. I think maybe a little bit more defensive. Linemen kingsley kiki. A has a concussion. He was limited Wednesday and thursday and the not participate. Fridays of he is out and then cornerback. Kevin king has a back injury. He did not participate. Friday and he is questionable. Says why backer chris. Barnes has a thumb injury. He was limited all week There ticker his backup. Rookie alcott kick are mason. Crosby has a shoulder injury. He was limited. All we know need your shoulder to kick a ball. So that's your matt gaetz doing little Running back aj dylan quad injury. He was limited all week. Wide receiver allen. Lazard is it lasted or lazard. Good question he has arrest lash back injury. he was limited all week tynan mercedes. Lewis has a knee injury. He was limited. Wednesday did not participate there say and the muslim fulcher to spend on friday safety. Well redman has a knee injury. He was a full participant wednesday. But that was limited thursday friday and linebackers areas. Smith has a thumb injury. he was limited all week. Oh my good lord. I cannot read this wide receiver. Equa nemea saint brown liquid namias but has a niece slash ankle injury. He was limited all week. Tackle rick wagner has a knee injury. He was limited all week. And then whoa wait a minute. Rick wagner yes see starter we he's starting for Bacteria now that's Turner building turn the bacterias are left tackle. Turner played right tackle. Ricky wagner place left tackle. That's not pretty sure. That's not their such common names And an but he's got an injury and then jamal adams are running. Back has an ankle injury. He limited all week. Who tiller banged up up sometime year. Think oh and when we brought or when we bought vida back we cut erwan fired to make room we real. I think you probably just drive the test. Let team by you. Probably just blown up. They're like oh man that's yeah yeah well you know he. He gets money for. That sure probably paid us moving expenses or are you corporate extra yes uh-huh you know i'm i'm going with a really wanna say like thirty one. Seventeen us right. I really do. But i get last week. I was going to be a shootout. And our defense stepped up. And shut that down donald. They're going to do that this week because with back. But he's not gonna be playing all the time man see. This is a tough one. I'm watching who wants to be a millionaire. You a friend. So he pulled the audience okay. I'm gonna go with bub-bubba only give us thirty five. Okay give them twenty seven. I like they put up thirty two against the ran's held the rams to eighteen. I don't think they're gonna do that to us. I am going gonna say gosh ralph without score. I'm must say thirty to thirty two or thirty to thirty two. Like that's what i am and trade you ever younger model could lord three months dre. Aarp cardon male. Think about other day. How i was. That's what happens. Used to mock me about that all the time. You point where you don't really want to think about patient care anymore. They're running other okay. Thirty two to go twenty nine man closer than i. Yes sir all reality there you go take a risk without like that one. I thought it last week was going to be a shootout a close game. But we wrap that up basically in the third quarter. I don't like them as much unlike my corpus. That's all right. I'm going to stick with it stick. Yeah let's go with so you know we don't know how this is going to turn out. I have a lot of confidence. We're going to win but again it's going to be at lambeau going to be at lambeau in the snow. Maybe that's tough. That's gonna be tough to play but we got a lot of guys that he used to play in them. Tom brady in one rock. The you know they play a style office. We have seen that we have difficulty with. So it's not something. We encounter a lot so it's going to be interesting. I think we got it. I think we got it. I think we're gonna win this. And i want to have that same feeling i had when rhonda barber intercepted donovan mcnabb. And he was running down the field. And i said we're going to the super bowl. I want to feel that again. I want to have that moment. Where i know it like i turned to you seven minutes. Nineteen seconds left in the fourth quarter. And i said we're going to the nfc championship. You didn't play like oh there's still plenty of tomlin china temper my expectations. Because i did not wanna fall like that a so far to fall when you're like he has and then i can be the saints fans. Yeah yeah they had us up twenty to thirteen third quarter head. They were moving down the field. All right so we got this man. We got this and you know Molly and i. As far as i know we're not getting divorced so that's all true as is back found. We lose this game. We might though you know. It'd be like i'm gonna blame it on us back your ass up. You're the one of made me like this stupid team. Would you say our daughter has been walking around saying she doesn't like the buccaneers redskins. Yes now like And i told our we're gonna put her effort option. No i told her flat out. I said i'm going to open the door and put you outside and shut the door. And i'll throw your stuff out there too and you'll she told me she's got a friend that lives right down the here. I'll just go down the claris. What defines me during the lockdown. We weren't going anywhere especially not taking her anywhere. So i had to go grocery shopping and she really wanted to go. I mean she had the worst cabin fever. And i was like no. You cannot really sociable. She yeah so she was having a rough time and honestly sorry. You just can't go with me. And she was like well. You can just leave me in the car and you know like in the grocery store parking lot and now i can't and she was like well why not i was like won't because someone else will call the police on me and she said well then what happens like what happens to me and i said well you'd go to a new family and she when i got out house own options there at hurts amid you're willing to risk leaving us as a family just to go to grocery she was just gonna she don't care. Hi guys. we got this other one's been way too long out for last episode. Okay yeah they go and of course we waited too last minute to get this one out too well true. We didn't until tomorrow let's go scandal. You'll get a few listens in on this. Hopefully make everybody feel better about what's getting ready to happen to get you out up. Ooh we need that. I feel like if we can get the same swinging through anybody. That was the big game to moon. Saints are tougher team than the packers are. Thanks so they're just a different team. We're used to the saints. We know how to play them. Well actually we don't but we did we we. We learned how to play them packers. Different beasts are different team than they were when we played a word different team than they played us. So it's going to be interesting. Man's going to be interested in. It's going to be held in most iconic stadium in the league. I think air minders are really wants vengeance. He he's gonna he's gonna be trying hard on this one. Yeah but pay if we could frazzled. Murli we got this game wrapped up and we got beat. A back abuser back. Give me those twenty snaps. It'll be the most glorious twenty snaps the ball history. All right guys. Everybody think positive. Where your gear. All week long all the way until sunday where proudly go out there and let's make new fans we're we're we're raking in fans. Tom brady team. Everybody loves it. Everybody i've talked to. His team is so awesome. So we're getting fans every day. We win one more game. That's that'll be more fans You go out there and sport the put gear on it and be the most awesome football fan on the planet. We gotta apostol is proselytize. Recruit evangelized preached the gospel. Here's yeah all right. That's gonna wrap it up guys We got a great game sunday. What time is it three. Three real five sunday eastern time span. Let's do this okay till next backs.

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[152] Super Bowl Hangover

Buccaneers Observer

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[152] Super Bowl Hangover

"Every year in the NFL. It's a new team as far as goals. Go we have one putting the fucker in mm singer. Welcome to the buccaneers observer. PODCASTS Drought Phillips. I'm Ali Bay is February. Third Twenty twenty the day after the Super Bowl since the start of the twenty twenty five on the year football is now done and over with rep two thousand nine hundred with a bow. Put it in a drawer in hibernate until September been what is it said. Last night I was like thirty weeks or something it crazy amount of weeks before football starts again. This is the worst time of the year. I'd watch we got started getting used to the draft so we could be excited when now the XFL is coming out so maybe we should pick that up. I can't even remember when it starts. I know it's February. Mike Varney started all right so I would think about the game super bowl. Forty niners at the chiefs. I don't remember much of the game redrawn now. I don't know I just it. It just didn't stick out to me. I had some notes but they weren't that expensive. I do feel like the game. Had A very static field to it like all. The ads were very nostalgic objects. They had the World War Two veterans. Come out at the beginning and you know it's the NFL's hundred Super Bowl hundred super bowl hundred. You're you're not one hundred super bowl so I did feel like the theme of the whole thing was just nostalgia which true all the commercials were like flashbacks to the eighties. The there was a lot of nineties. Pop culture references. Yeah the commercial with Bryan Cranston as in the shining it it was like a mountain dew. Commercial alone the game was a little surprised that the score wasn't higher. I was surprised that San Francisco held Kansas City to under twenty points for the vast majority of the game. I cannot believe that they let Kansas City. Come back like that and of course we gotta eat some Crow About Patrick Mahomes Super Bowl your elite. That's the only requirement ally manning got two super bowls delete. So you put Patrick Mahomes in that category. I was thinking talking about what. IRKS me about him why I guess it worked with him. I think it's more of I don't like change. And it really is the shuffling of the new guard which again the homeless shelter thing. I mean it's the end of an era for football. I mean you didn't have any of the elite older quarterbacks in the superbowl all nos matter of fact drew brees was only one that made it to the championship game right so I think I think it's not. I think that's what kind of bothers me about Patrick. Mom and also that he's already been heralded by the media as the next Michael Jordan. which I just think it's ridiculous? Troy Aikman said that in a broadcast one night and I was thinking you are an idiot idiot you know yeah you gotta you gotTa say well but there is something there yeah. We really thought that he was going to be figured figured out and teams were going to be able to stop them. Well rarely even on Youtube has one of our listeners. Said Pat Mahomes is more of a passing quarterback back so he corrected us. They're pretty smart mercer and said he's one of the smartest players he's a little like Russell Wilson L. somewhere. He's pather but well run when he needs to. I think he uses the running war selectively. which is how I prefer right? Yes this is a this is a new era and you know we had two teams in Super Bowl. That had been in a long time. And it's nice to see Andy. Reid finally win one. Yeah I do like him. I like Gandhi. I did think forty niners are going to win too. I bet on I was really disappointed in how they played out the last few minutes couch any. He blew the double digit lead with Elena Buddha offense coordinator there right Yep and win the forty niners got the ball back. I think there was a few minutes left in the fourth quarter. They were up by three. And they dot I I had said You I said well. They're just going to run the clock out. Now as you know the canes city get to ball back with few minutes but you know for now is just gonNa run the clock out. And I'll be darned aren't if they didn't throw the Damn Ball an incomplete pass on second down just ruined it. I was like Oh they just lost the game. That was it so it was a it was a good let game. It wasn't very entertaining like Like you like to see but it wasn't bad it wasn't love Pittsburgh Arizona cardinals game that was one of the best superbowls ever orpheus me. As far as entertainment values concern wasn't a blow out one way or the other the used to the Super Bowl was always a blow out. You know it wasn't until probably two thousand thousands win. The super bowl started becoming really good competitive games. Used to men the Super Bowl sock Diplo is a championship games over the good Games. So it's good to see that you know we've we've got good games that the super bowl but this one was kind of snooze fest thought one thing that drove me crazy. It's driving me crazy for a while. We talked about it here. podcast lot is the officiating. Now the -ficiating this wasn't bad but it wasn't consistent with how they officiate during the regular season. That drives me crazy. I mean his normally like that. But this always just kinda ridiculous. I kinda four times four times where the quarterback got hit in the helmet while he was throwing after he had thrown the pass and it was never fly four four times. They got the Jameis Winston treatment. Maybe it's the young guys they figure they can tak- what is just not consistent. Because if you're going to do that regular season call flags gift fifteen yards opponent. You GotTa do it. But they're not consistent during the season they call it sometimes sometimes not other. That's the biggest problem with officiating. Consistency that that was a that was really the only issue. I had with the -ficiating last night. I think that there are more conservative in these big games. Many people are watching definitely definitely there was a couple of hit outbound where I was like that would have been a flag during regular zoom but a dawn. It's over with Kim city chiefs are champions. AFC got title Geena being a high now. We were just talking about that. The Patriots got it last year for about the year before. I don't remember guys breath. We need the buccaneers. Represent US Komo Bucks stub. Oh Books News. Okay not relay. Hey Joe Bucks. Fan is on a tear. They've gotten a bunch of comments from players about the James Winston situation. That's all they've been asked about as they did. Ask Ask Joe Staley what they thought about what he thought about. Donald Kong Soo and basically just daily look down like you had three heads and said yes you still gotta the same as he was in Detroit South Yeah. It's the people have been saying that that you know he just doesn't have like a used to. I've I've been saying to me I. I watched the guy. He's just a great football player. He's a great strategic good football player in a great technical football ballplayer. He barely masses up. And he's all you know. He's always imposition. He's doing the right stuff. I diverted player Veeraswamy. I agree with Joe Staley but the big nasty. The buccaneers Fan superfan got into the Ford Football Fan Hall of fame. Oh it did make an in. He he did those speaking a witch John Lynch did not make it into the pro football hall of fame. Not only did he not make them in the Hall Hall of fame but he lost the Super Bowl so rough weekend for John Lynch. Yeah John Lynch is not used to having these types of losses. I don't think he's a guy. He's one super balls walls with team different teams and I fully expected him to go with the forty niners. Win there to you. Is that success everywhere. He's gone but it is impressive. How quickly they turned that organization station around so I think that they'll be back? I've got some. NFC South News. Greg Olson was released by the panthers. The bill is a free agent air there. Yeah exactly all these old old guard players. And then Vic Beasley with the Falcons is going to be a free agent. And the the Falcons have announced that they're not going to try to resign him. Interesting must be something there. Stephen Gilmore got defensive player of the year. Sure he knows that he's he plays for the New England Patriots and matter of fact him an John's of both gut let me give them about twenty one votes Jones. Got Fourteen T.. J. Watt got ten Shaq Barrett got to God's ridiculous although redacted. It really really is a really is I'm I'm I'm just befuddled by. How have a most likely? It's the reporters me. I don't know that's a good question. Did you hear the argument that a tape. It's respect because it's small market team oriented stuff small fan base. That's what that's what that means when you hear people say small market team unit because they're small markets like Green Bay which is the smallest market in all professional sports. I think but they're not considered a small market team because they have a huge fan base l. across the nation across the world if we want to change our small small market status we need to get more fans. Let's do that start. Proselytizing ties in US is up to the fan base to do that if he asked me. An people are really attracted to up and coming teams now especially if they're considered underdogs for an up. Four former. Forty niners raiders star. Alex Smith is trying to make an NFL comeback. We had talked about him quite asked him is currently suspended indefinitely by the League for multiple off the field incidences everybody's been trained in a J. Glazer's unbeatable. GM in West. Hollywood in his last game was for the raiders in November. Two Thousand Fifteen j Glazer's come out and said you know he's off to the drink in off drugs. He's really Boston's Bob. Would you expect a guy to say that but J. Glazer's really pushing hard frown on Smith to get back in the league. That crazy hasn't played since two thousand fifteen in five. Haven't years how old is he. Now you know. He's probably in his early thirties. That's a senior citizen for high. Now he could probably get a league minimum job No no I I. I liked him when he was in the League. But he just imploded little help with a from Cabernet but we won't go there the motherboard. NFC South News. The saints are being accused of helping a New Orleans Catholic church running. Pr For some sex-abuse scandals. How in the world of the saints get involved in all this messed bountygate? But cheetan another New Orleans saints. Say they only did minimal. Behind the scenes public relations work on areas Roman Catholic sexual abuse crisis but a attorneys sue in the church allege of course that hundreds of confidential saint emails show the team's involvement went much deeper Bert helping to shape a list of credibly accused clergy. That appears to be undercounted others. According to says the saints appear to have had a hand in determining which name should or should not I had been included on the pedophile list in question. Doesn't that kind of the purpose of the list. So they're just putting the guys that they don't like on their the New Orleans Saints Attorneys. They went to court to keep about two hundred seventy six documents for being released to the public. Now they said a court filing this week that neither neither the saints nor any other personnel have anything to hide in the team says does not object to the emails becoming public later if they are admitted in evidence in the case. He's not the saints owner. Gale Benson is a devout Catholic in close friends with the local archbishop. So it's interesting another name as the saints so it seems appropriate assume purpose or should we like go out and support Somali pirates. We could star fleet in the Caribbean maiming. Awesome the APP goes start reading Texas Louisiana now Texas. They're all armed. The hacking group supposedly named Armin based out of Dubai hacked into the twitter facebook and instagram accounts. What's a fifteen NFL teams? The buccaneers was one of them. Why don't they do that our they did it as a PR stopped Garner business? They've done this for years they Broken it into account for extremely high profile people and businesses including BUZZFEED BBC net flicks. WWE CNN New New York Times. I mean a whole slew glazes they have just over the years. They didn't do anything really malicious they just put on the twitter feeds that you know. Hey hire us. The apparently what happened is they the the claim that they notified the NFL an teams for business before they did it and when they figure response back just went in and put their. Oh come on now. Everybody gets those spam emails. Hey I want to do dirty sent me some. Bitcoin coin I ignore those two. You go on the one that got into their work email. If if you're getting closer might be some training. Put The box only. NFC South Team to be hacked. What did they put out anything? Good no no. And you see all the ethical hackers kind of extortionists a little go into their marketing strategy. No you can't say they're white hat hackers close to it. But you know they're not doing militias stuff I think they did. They did say on a one team that every team had been sold old for. Oh Gosh I can't remember. It was pretty funny. Actually like the team had been sold to a Saudi Arabian businessman or something. Yeah they tape the profile pictures or something something really subtle like chiefs. They could have changed it to a chef picture the chefs the NFL and NFL. Players Association met Thursday for a key day about ongoing labor talks for the new. CBA They also met today and gotten any information on that yet. the NFL PA Executive Director. demars Smith has already started talking about a strike. Forgot saying he said quote the reality is is that if we want to hold out and get everything we want. That's probably going to mean a two year strike in quote. It's not going to happen. That's not hayes posturing and they had and nothing. The currency expires at March. Twenty twenty one so next year I mean if they go on strike that means players are not getting paint for two years. I don't think I think that's GonNa Happen. Yes they are they. They've been talking to the players to start hoarding money. And those custodian. There's really the issues that are being raised in the CBA. Va are not Insurmountable yes to me. They seem very easy to get an agreement on a agreements already supposedly really been reached on several key issues including changes to the League's drug policy and disciplined policy other. Probably GonNa make marijuana not a drug. That's prohibited prohibited or that they test for interest in Benefits improvements for current and retired players changes to training camp rules which includes limiting eating them. Out of contact. Teams can have training camp again As well as a matter of time coaches can keep them on the field. Eventually it's going to be where they don't do anything in training camp except take pictures but the two contentious issues that they're dealing with right now is how much the players share. A revenue is going to be currently. It's no less than forty forty seven percent which surprised me as it was at high it basically get half of the NFL revenue money NFL players. Do but the big one is extending the season. Seventeen Games aims. NFL's players are fighting against them. The Association is anyhow apparently the league and the coaches wanted. I don't know about the coaches. The League Ones Heck Yeah. Yeah more money. I don't know how I feel about that. I would sure anytime we could get more gave up for it. Well I mean it's only one more game right as yes for the sound. Maybe not I you know if it takes a toll on their body. Yeah well what they're gonNA do with talked about is making players at the the main Tori take games off. You can't write the players. Don't Oh yeah all right. That's their big issue. They don't want to have to take dame's off but not the meeting Thursday only included thirty thirty two teams because the forty niners cheifs were preparing for Sunday's Super Bowl but the meeting today all thirty two eighteen had representatives there for the players association now the next likely flex point would be the NFL PA as annual meeting in March in Key Biscayne A. They were supposed to vote today on whether they were gonNA have to seventeen game season this is just NFL players association. Whether they would agree to it I I have not heard anything on that yet. Next podcast will give you an update. But the the meeting in March and Key Biscayne NFL PA will have to like new president since the current current President Air Winston is no longer on a team and therefore according to the NFL. PA rules can no longer hold the position also in addition to that election players likely wild take some sort of CBA related vote at their March meeting. Either they vote on the proposed new. CBA or that's not an option the likelihood of vote on whether the authorized the players the strike at twenty twenty one. If no deal is approved by the see me they should not be talking about a strike. What they're trying to get you're gonNA make the NFL L. Skittish and digging their heels because to me it's extortion? Yeah well it sounds good. They're trying to get all this done before next year. He doesn't sound like the issues. Like you said are in that at that big of an impact so it seems seems like their stuff that they can work out to me the seventeen game season. It sounds good. You know we get an extra game. Maybe it's not that much on the players but I. I don't think that that's an issue. I don't think that's your hill to die on if you're the NFL players are like absolutely not or just put that crap all just soon. Wait till the next one. I'll work on them because it was the thing that just kind of popped up last year and it seems like they've been kind of pushing it and I don't know that people are really really not ready for it. Of course you know fans would love it but it would change the game a lot if he asked me especially if they force players to you have to take at least one or two weeks off during regular season addict. Just change everything. How the coaches to strategize? Yeah you gotTA figure out a rotation rotation like which players can you afford to lose you know. I would have him on a schedule so that your debt is rotating out like if we had for for instance how to take a week off. Don't have VIDA MOFFAT same. We you know. Have Nacho come in or whoever allen but it would basically be like to buy weeks weeks for the players get to buy weeks year if they only make them take one week off when I heard that WanNa make them take two weeks off so it'd be three weeks players don't play and they. They don't WanNa do that. Yeah player these players like a play in. A NACHO had put out a statement on the dog situation. Let's move to some news here this is really about the all. The buccaneers got. It's just got how we love our outrage in America so when he had put indignation you know what it is. We don't have enough trouble trouble in our lives. That's Roy too comfortable and so we just get mad about everything else. You're exactly right. It's just human nature that he wrote a three peat four-page page statement. Wow yes Where Feminine denied allegations that he abandoned dog and Sarah last month They release it through their agent. Jeff daily explaining that they give it away. The dog named Jitterbug who ended up in a Florida shelter The Nunez Roach has also known as not it just says it in a statement received threats prompting them to file a police report and hire an attorney and I do believe that he ended up having to file a restraining order. So good Loria has just completely unnecessary if you would like to read the statement. I'm not GonNa read the whole thing here because like I said it's four pages. It's on profootballtalk. NBC NBC SPORTS DOT Com. But you know he breaks it down and explains look. We've had these dogs. We don't breed like We're not in a Kennel breeders readers. We know it's not a big business for us. We care about the money we just have. Dogs Dogs We've never had kids. So we treat the dogs like our kids but then when they found out she was pregnant agnete decided. They can't have the bigger dog so they gave them all away. He said Hal dog ended up on the side of the road. He doesn't know But he is kind of kind of peo of with the animal rights individuals in Tampa that had been telling stories about this in the animal shelter that jumped in on it as well. He says the COMP- story is completely false and they'd be working together with the family that did adopted jitterbug talking and texting with them and provided them with everything may need so you know big deal. He called out. The the group's a falsely accused him via rescue Tampa and the humane society of the nature. Coast both the bloom which they sent cease and desist letters to from the turn Syria. But this thing I mean it just turned into a man. You're attacking his character especially when you have pets you like you know you love dogs and you truly so you before you have kids. You can't really appreciate the undertaking of having a child and especially having pets that are also dependent on you. It's a difficult situation chat. It's just one of those things where you know a reporter got with this and it's ran with it because they knew it was going to cause outrage. I knew people were going to get upset. Sat his his guys abused his dogs. And you know he got to his employer seen the buccaneers. Were looking into it. So he was basically you know under the Crosshairs between the public and the media and his bosses. He's a free agent this year. Don't quote me on that I thinking is often I know but you know it could if he's got a significant off the field issue quote unquote that the team. It feels like it's bad publicity. He's not one of those top tier players. That's a shoe win. You know I mean it really could affect chance career. Yeah I'd be pissed too. Oh okay so more bucks news. This isn't really news is more just Chitchat. Could the books folks get new new uniforms next year. Everyone has been talking about this since we got the last night of well. Everybody wants new uniform But it it does worry me because I don't want the uniforms to be uglier than they are. Now that's a possibility you know. I think that they would go more conservative as far as designs Gal I think they took a real risk with these very different. They have Nike design. These yeah I think it was partnered with Nike. We did a whole podcast on this. I think at one boy But the reason why I'm bringing this up is because all over were the web booking jerseys are on sale half off really and this is the same thing that happened when they did the jerseys last time when they when the name change the uniforms the clear out inventories so the put everything in Half Prize. I heard is. I need to buy New Jersey while they're low on ninety not on their side. They've only got Mike Evans left. Not Than the Mike Evans in James Whistler last time I checked I haven't looked at a couple of days but they sold out. Godwin sold out trays. He's latter. Everyone was like. I'm getting islanders for him. So you know there is the possibility. We're getting new uniforms if we do. It'll be announced usually really I'll think Mart or maize winning amounted last year or last year before the draft. Cause they bring out the Jersey for the guy so I think they would probably announce it before is the drafts April. Yeah so they do it in March. Yeah he's at my though. Que Era Twelve. O Monta was getting month. So that's exciting. We might have new. I'll tell you if they got to keep the word mark toward mark says. It's a work of art. I love it. It's on his desktop. Yup got it everywhere. Yes anytime. I see a shirt or something with that word mortgage bud and the logo on the helmet and the helmet itself. If I really liked the helmet I like the word more they gotta keep those things that they change it and please don't go back to the Sherbert talking about but you know the flag doesn't match that no they would have to go back to booker. Bruce logo and I'm sorry I just don't like it I'm all of those people that Means a lot to me. It's not a it's not intimidating nothing need to have an intimidating color and logo elegant style. It's not toxically. Masculine Alan enough. That's right yeah Does Not unlike the throwback uniforms we did there for a while back Josh Removes Air you know whip it back. Did the Sherbert uniforms but not full-time now. A matter of fact I became a fan because of hardy nickerson when he came from the Pittsburgh steelers as a big Fan Hardy Nickerson and he left steelers and he went to Tampa Bay in. There's a whole year there where I was sitting there going. I can't become a fan. Tampa Bay still saying heart negative but I was like I came become a Tampa Bay fan because they uniforms is ugly and then they changed their uniforms awards and I was like those are so cool uniform. Hardy Nickerson was my boy and I was really starting to get into some of the other players that were there so I said it was the first time I'd never been a fan of team. Always Been Fan of players. You know as a fan of Lynn Swann. Tony Sad hardy nickerson by never had a team you know and I never relied Pittsburgh steelers but I like to let them players on the Pittsburgh steelers so you know Tampa Bay was my first team. That became fan of a large part of it was due to to the uniform. So don't go back to the orange uniforms. I don't know if I can deal with. You would be miserable. The whole time would probably not by any of this year though. Yeah definitely which would really hurt them because I think support laws good twenty five percent of their I Wyatt like twenty or now Lord too many. This is my jersey. Those include shirts jackets hats. So many shirts your hall. You could get rid of all all your other clothes wardrobe. Yan's all buccaneers bogere Pajama Pants. The DJAAMA's aware to bathrobe bathrobe at silly. You need some buccaneers underwear. I don't have buccaneers. God socks okay. So anyhow yeah they with They probably lose out on my financial support in that aspect. Because although I do have a throwback orange bookings ham charter had that you love you. Thanks I yeah I wear it all the time and I have my snow hat. Yeah you've got to be right here on the desk orange on. I don't know if I could just watch it all the time. If they're GONNA go back to Bucco Bruce they need to just make it Bruce Arians face. That's my compromise. It did not going to be a whole lot of news going on still waiting to see what's happening with Jameis Winston. We've got so many players would got to sign. I haven't even started looking into it because I'm Kinda not ready to face the truth. Yes see how the roster oh no we could lose news and it's not it is the main guys you know shack dream as sue those guys. Jp but it's like the other guys has to like the nachos NASA Colston. You know it's just I'm Barbara or even I don't see how we can keep everybody. Yeah noggin reprisal and there's nobody on the team that I'm going to be fine with having gone even backup guys. I'm like we got a lot of good players on this team that I'd like. I'd like COM now. The good people at sounds. I'm just not even ready to deal with it. We're GONNA give us a couple of weeks before we dive. We'll probably wait until we find out what's going to happen with James Amos before we start looking at WHO's going to be on the chopping block because that's going to be a big one depend on how much money he gets if he if he stays you know and Jack Barrett bear it those two right there. We're going to have like close to ninety million. In caps bays put James Stays he's GonNa take up about thirty shacks go take up fifteen. Twenty third of orgasmic is right there over a third of half. The buccaneers did send out letters to the ticket season ticket. Holders ars an about renewal and it had in their allies about the offense led by James Winston. Did all this stuff so the funny thing I mean that could be a sign that he's here Fred long-haul I'll tell you. What is such a conundrum? I have gone back and forth with fit in. I would be fine with him. Stay but if somebody asked us this on twitter would we be confident with Jaimes Winston in the playoffs and I was immediately like no not at all. I at this point in this is five years in at this point no I would not have confidence James Wisdom and not lose us again because he tends is to in a high pressure situations he tries to do too much and then he makes his Winston mistakes so then the follow followup question to that was then why keep holding that right. That's the whole thing but you gotta remember. This is entertainment. And I'll be darned if this team is not entertain new James. James was the entertainment quarterback he has been ever since he's been here. Fan started calling Mr Entertainment. If it's true. I don't think there's more entertaining quarterback quarterback in the league. You know as far as making you want to shoot yourself or have a party you know could be one on on Sundays and I'm I'm good with US keeping and I'M GONNA be too heartbreaking if we don't keep you you know it's really I'm just like I can understand if we don't let's put it that way it it can go either way. It could go either word. I think that question about the play offs. It's just the playoffs are such a completely different beast night. You just don't know until until you're there well we had never seen Janusz Winston And there was talk in the draft that we were going to Marietta right so we we watched the champ James Again with meal and Marietta is both they were and James Wissam awesome was embarrassing and he just got vide. He vowed that deer in the headlights. Look and I remember sitting there going. Oh my God you know this is the the either talking about US drafting and when we did draft him I was like this is going to be a disaster but I are warmed up to him. I like his his attitude where he just it does seem to care. He's GonNa Sling it and if he loses its water job the belts back. You know like any any wants to win. I mean. He seems to have a lot of gumption to win. In the locker room I think is behind him publicly anyway. Yeah I don't know it's just a I can't get a read on the guy I really can't as far as because I don't think he's cool. He's he doesn't seem to be hit or whatever the kids are saying. Now you know he just he just kind of awkward goofy and and I don't donogh resonates with the other teammates. Whatever well he has personality in a social setting might be completely different from his personality in the huddle all over? Yeah Yeah you don't want him give me in the huddle up. See Him do so silly stuff on the field where I sit nothing man. The guys in the film room have got to be cracking up watching the stuff you know. Bunny hop warning crazy. I still have done a video of that again too. Yeah yeah so I'm I'm of the opinion that if James Winston stays that's great if James was goes I can live with it. You know I'm not going to be upset. Sat doing that interception video it was. It really just blew my mind but even more solidified the fact that either way is fine. Because because Davis was that he will slain and he's going to make some spectacular throws and the vast majority of his throws are going to be good but then he's going to find his damn interceptions they're going to be. boneheaded added a Lotta Times and he's GONNA lose games. I mean doing the math. You know he lost US easily three games you can. You can point to three game specifically and say days it was Winston lost us. Those three games right there Tennessee Houston in week. Seventeen against Elena through interceptions that that was dame over you know but then again the guy can you know he threw five. Thousand plus yards is year with thirty touchdowns he's made Bouchard Perriman. Looked like my Gavin's you know I think you could probably put any receivers out there. And he's going to put up four thousand yards so like I don't know man I don't know where it's GonNa be exciting one way or another we keep him or get rid of I just don't see. BA given up on him. No no I don't either. I think he would regret that for the Russian awesome in life because they pride themselves on. You know quarterback whisper. He works with anybody. First overall draft pick that that he's never given up on a quarterback develop some of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. So I don't know man. It's exciting big entertaining. So I saw that a marcus. Mariota is listed is like the fifteenth top free agent this year. I'm like who in the world. Go pick this guy. We'll send you the jets. He's GONNA the jets Miami kick. Wouldn't that be something tannehill. Goes the Tennessee. Mary goes the Miami. Don't watch Mary. Baker Miami Kellyanne take them to in a C.. J. Abinger where AFC. James you wouldn't that be something and they meet Tennessee in the championship. Also snapdragon Eh. Meredith used to bad quarterback. It was still don't know what's going to happen with drew brees. I saw that he is Reaching out to broadcast companies looking at me get into broadcasting. We don't get a job in a minute. Yeah yeah he he'd probably do pretty good. I don't know dumb now. Well he probably a good spokesperson for Zales jewelry. If you WANNA really good investment by jewelry never depreciate like a car her like he's football smart and he can probably hit a null himself talking about football so we don't know about him and it looks like There's some change going with Atlanta or Beasley changes going on in the panthers got rid of Greg. Olsen don't know what's going on with Cam media. Their whole. Coaching Staff is made up of college personnel. Apparently he has probably draft somebody. That's my theory to replace Cam or yeah you'd think they'll restored somebody out of college or the end I think so. Well I mean. They're all college coaches. They always WanNa bring in guys that they can develop. They've we've been in the college scene. They've seen a lot of quarterbacks that are coming into the draft so they probably have a pretty good handle on the style that they like who might fit their system Estan. And that's they're saying is he's a rebuilder which is weird Ever since we've been in the NFC south in things have been relatively consistent. It's been a long time since we haven't had to face drew brees Matt Ryan and came loom and now that might be done. All three of them might go rhino. Stay at least two. Yeah and you know Matt Ryan who knows how long he's going to be around right. He could be benched in the middle of the season. I mean this is an Quinn's last year on his contract. Sal at a certain point he might get a little desperate craziness. Knew what are we coming up on the schedule. What's the next thing? Buchan ears related. We're looking forward to probably I believe the signings. I think it's on. I gonNA pull my schedule. The twenty four th of February. Yeah Okay Are we going the twenty four to February. Harry is the combine. So that'll be the next thing and March tenth is the franchise tag that line the next thing we hear from the buccaneers and March eighteenth is the start of the twenty twenty league year and Free Agency begins with there was a march eighteenth. Sidon riding the train the Franchise Tag Day and started free agency is GONNA be big for all of us man oval bugging fans all right. We're GONNA keep the PODCAST UNCAST role and we probably will not be in three shows a week for a while We took a couple of weeks off because where fatigue yes and it had a birthday parties and only get stuff going on so it was just we had family in and we had just been dragging in today's the first day. We've actually actually Kinda got back to a normal schedule since before. Christmas in our lives so I don't I don't think we're going to be doing three times a week. I'm not sure but there's is just not enough news out there. We're going to be doing our debate. We got our notes. Were working on on the pros and cons of keeping James Winston. Molly is going to be pro. I'm going to be con- good. Good cop bad cop. I WANNA make everybody think that we should get rid of James. Maybe we should've let these you poisoning the fan base. So so if there's no news coming out This week that will probably be our next. PODCAST is the James Winston debate. Now that we got some time I'll will also start start having some videos coming out. I haven't had a chance to work on any so Keep an eye on if you haven't yet go and subscribe to the Youtube Channel Get notifications when we put new ones up. You don't WanNa miss it you. aww One buccaneer fan that does not see these videos are the coquette coochie man peer pressure. So that's going to wrap it up for US till next time go back.

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Early QB Rankings Part 2, Smokin Happy

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Early QB Rankings Part 2, Smokin Happy

"Hey for Glenn. You know, you can get the UD K preordained for the absolute lowest price of the season. But maybe you didn't know that we're running the ultimate fantasy footballers prize pack right now, if you preorder before April twenty eighth year automatically gonna get entered into possibly win and one of those spots in the two thousand nineteen listener league, maybe can win to customize jerseys from fantasy champs or get on board with VIP tour experience, we're hitting the road. Again, you're gonna win to tickets are going to get to ask a question. Sit up front hang out, shake our hands kiss them babies. Do all of that fun stuff? Head over to ultimate draft kit dot com and get yours preordered before April twenty eighth as well. As the second Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And you're listening to the fantasy football podcast. Well to the fantasy footballers podcast coming to you from Christine option dot com studios with your hose, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike, right? Ronald Ronald Ronald Ronald Ronald that intro. It was impressing the general manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Ronald Jones, thanks for intro in the show Ronald de LA to run. Well, today's going to be a great episode of the fancy football. I fight cast. We already know that. Now, here's the thing in Jason's putting his hate blockers back on. I mean, if this is the Ronald Jones time, I haven't seen those in quite some time. What I love what I'm going. What I'm going to love the most about today is going to be all of our discussions on. James Winston that will be the greatest part in a piece of that puzzle. Is Bruce Arians probably huge piece based on Jason's rankings and Ronald Jones plays for the very same. Bruce Arians and the very same team. That has said that he's the most impressive player. So far fans L, we'll see I look I that was ingest, right? Like Ronald Jones had an awful awful season. But you hope much like head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals Zack Miller. Zac, Taylor said today about John Ross clean slate. Fresh start you hope that Ronald Jones gets that having not been drafted by the, you know, the same regime, or you know, the same head coach. So Ronald Jones are some hype train news yesterday just about how he's impressing coaches in. Jason has historically been Ronald Jones hater. Yeah. I look I didn't think he was going to translate well to the NFL when he was one of the highest ranked rookies last year, so far so good. But it it is too early. I mean, you know, there was a time when we didn't like necessarily the the early rookie, and maybe even sophomore seasons from the likes of devante Freeman and Davante Adams if you're at a on us not named Ivanovo start. Yeah. This is Ronald we have the early quarterback ranking show today part too. If you can resist the urge if you listened to us enough this offseason, we'll help you. But if you can resist the urge to draft one of the upper echelon quarterbacks in waste the draft pick. Really high in your draft. If you can resist that urge these are the guys who are going to be deciding between these are the guys who are going to be looking at getting value on in your fantasy. I saw a comment, and this was really this is a really common thought a really common experience. I'm sure a lot of people listening or watching on YouTube have this exact same experience they say this year this year, I'm going to wait, and I'm gonna draft my quarterback late and every single year round six seven, you know, it just gets a little too. There's there's someone there that fell a little bit. And so they they draft their quarterback in round six round seven because they think they're getting great value. And they're like, no, this is the I'm not going to do that don't do it. So here's the thing when you're in the grocery store and you're walking down the cereal aisle. So scared right now to get to the back where the value is where the bags are you have to go past all the name brand. You got Honey smacks. You got fruit. Loops you got sent him in toes, Russky charm. They're looking you in the face. And there is the exact same thing is the worst analogy you've ever given. What you're saying is drafting thoroughly quarterbacks. No get you're telling the world you need an early quarterback. Because otherwise, you're going to end up with the garbage version of cinnamon toast crunch. Yeah. I get I get where you were going, Mike. But the truth is, I I don't buy those battles the truth is I don't buy the bags either. But the truth is, I know what they taste like, and it's exactly the same as the other cereal. But the the cartoon character on the box tricks me. The food takes to the fact, I okay, okay. Listen today show. It's going to be a doozy. James winston. He will consume some of our time here, very soon. A reminder find us on Twitter at the F F ballers the websites. The fantasy football dot com. You heard it in the intro, but the NFL drafts a week away. 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Make you feel my oh, it's still mixed me. Feel gross. Was it? The was it. The the voice was it. His Bill Elliott impression was the shirtless nature. Wasn't the three degrees. We do not have enough time in this show to break down that minute in the have video I have gone full uproot or film of this you coming out with Bod cast the breakdown that I probably should I do an entire season on that video of of why every. Everything is just terrible unless you're a Seattle Seahawks fan than I'd be very you. Don't know cels there what we're talking about. They know what we're talking to everybody listening has seen or knows of Russell Wilson comes out with this Instagram post at whatever in the night or morning, a Glock and he's just like it was money o clock. It was money. Oh clock. Yeah. Laying in bed shirtless with Sierra and his chains on ended up the the weirdest. Like, hey, there was there wasn't a care in that man's mind. No, he's good for the next. Ever. Yeah. He doesn't matter. If he's handicapping the franchise, but whatever look highest played player in football. Mary's Thomas one year deal with the patriots. Do we care or do you need me to hit this, bud? You care slightly as it is the patriots. But Damiri it's Thomas has equal chance to me of being the wide receiver to on this team is equal chance to be cut. Yeah. This off season Eric decker? But isn't that the nice situation here is that he he should be valuable if he's healthy if he's not healthy, the they're not gonna play around with them. They're not going to carry them into the season. So we we should have a definitive answer coming into you know, into the season. Also, I mean, how many of these wide receivers? Do we need to get excited about that? They've joined the patriots to have them do nothing. Yeah. Bruce Ellington signed earlier in the off season Murray. Cyrus you'll rather have. Yeah. Mari serious. I'd rather have Bruce Ellington Doug Marrone. Jags head coach is good news for four net owners came out and said that he's not going to face any team discipline stemming from his arrest last week. That's good news. Doug Marrone was like we've all been there. No. He literally said that Doug Miro literally said I've been there. Here's the thing. Doug marrone? No. We have not all been. Yeah. Yeah. The NFL schedule will be released by the time this podcast is released. What a schedule it. It was. Oh, it's a great those that prime time match up week eight. Yep. Unbelievable. So yeah, we were recording this show slightly before the release of the NFL scheduled. That's exciting. You've got the NFL schedule released. You got the NFL draft next week. You can have rookie shows you gonna have winners and losers in the draft coming up and all of it in the fantasy football context for your team. So you're ready to go. That was today's news and notes we want to get right into the early quarterback rankings the rest of them and be sure to switch your dynasty league over to sleeper. Now before I hit this quarterback button, which I am going to keep my eyes open when I hit the drops today. So they should be Accu. You're a coward. But we we got a little message from dad. Okay. And really it's not from dad. It's from dad and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Okay. Look this message right now. It's a simple one. Maybe it's common sense. We all know what it's like to be on the road to be in a hurry to be listening to a podcast. I mean, a lot of you probably listening right now, you're on the road. But the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration wants to let you know, if you're in a hurry, you're running late and you find yourself at a railway crossing, please. Wait, please wait for a train. If the signals are going in the trains not there yet. Maybe you feel you know, you feel tend to be sneaky. Here's the thing. This may seem like common sense. But every year, it's not for some people. So don't ever take that chance trains, go faster than you think? They cannot stop. Okay. They cannot stop even if the engineer. Hit the brakes right away. It takes a mile for the train to stop. And by that time is too late. So you don't know how fast it's going to be there. You don't know if they can see you, and they can't stop even if they do see. So the result is a disaster happens every year, and we want to keep you on your toes. Make sure you're smart on the road. And if the signals are on the train is in the way, it's on the way, remember one thing. Stop trains cannot. All right. We're moving on quarterbacks. What our bags all right last week or sorry on Tuesday top ten. Here's a little recap, Pat Mahomes. Andrew lock Aaron Rodgers to Shawn Watson Baker Mayfield Carson Wentz. Cam newton. Matt Ryan Russell Wilson. And drew Brees. That was our consensus top ten rankings at the quarterback position. And we can start right here right now. Big debate. Jameis Winston comes in at number eleven no not because of Mike and Mike, and I have met thirteen which honestly, truthfully. I think it's probably too high. Oh, really, but Jason has him at seven I think that's probably too high. So let's talk about James Winston Winston last year in eleven games two hundred and forty four attempts or I'm sorry. Two hundred forty four completions on three hundred seventy eight passes nineteen touchdowns just under. Three thousand yards ran for almost three hundred yards. And this story about James Winston is all about the weapons he has in the head coach. Jason you love it. I'm excited for the prospect of what he could do. I don't for a second imagine that he doesn't carry risk. I mean, he could very well by the end of the year not be a quarterback. But I believe I'd be a quarterback that like not be the starting quarterback for a franchise. But I believe that he will have a successful year. We've we've talked about my love for Chris Godwin this year. Mike Evans is in his prime. We've talked up the potential breakout for OJ Howard. My also my love for Justin Watson as a sleeper. So I mean, if all of those things, right if this wide receiving corps is a corps that I love this team is one that still projects to have a bad defense at a great offense. They're in a division full of great offenses. I mean, I it would be disingenuous of me to say. Well, then this doesn't benefit Jameis Winston. But it's not it's not narrative driven, which is what you guys I think there's this. This mentality of we like the weapons and Bruce Arians is coming in. So I just love James. He's going to be great James has done. It James has already performed as a top guy. Just not on a season. And I went, and I looked and I broke down wise. So let's just look at last year suspended the first three games comes in relief to different times goes out. Once it was really wacky season for cutter led Tampa Bay Buccaneers because he's scrambling for his job trying to do everything he can to find some magic potion overall the Tampa. I mean, if you take James Winston plus Ryan Fitzpatrick, and you just added their stats together. Like a normal quarterback play sixteen games. They would have been the number two. They would have been behind Patrick Mahomes ahead of Matt Ryan just from those stats last year. But if you take out Fitzpatrick, and you just look at the games, I went through and looked at the games that James played the whole game. You started. He finished whatever there were eight of them last year and in those eight games, he averaged. Basically about twenty one points a game in standard scoring which was a head of dishonor Watson ahead of Andrew luck. I mean, those are great numbers. And now he's got a good offense. A a coach in that. Fitzpatrick is gone. There's no looking over your shoulder. So I am calling my shot here that I believe James has the potential to be a top five quarterback. And I'm not worried about the risk like early running backs. I am risk of verse. If I'm wrong and the guy gets injured or the guy, you know, you know, doesn't catch the ball in the projection of those early running backs. I can't just turn around it pick one up off of waivers. But I go I take the risk with quarterback and say look James could have a true breakout? Here he's got the potential and I'm drafting him super late note. People aren't excited about Jamesy finishes the quarterback twenty two last year. So I'm going to scoop him up with one of my last picks have the potential that he has a breakout. He's succeeded in the NFL, and it has a lot of things going for him. That's my argument for James. Winston lot of that makes sense. And obviously with him at seven though, you're projecting that kind of a season out of him as in your rankings like that last year the bucks finished with the season with the most passing yards as a team in general, Bruce Arians has had a lot of success. What's really funny about Winston to me is that even if they hadn't played together the the comp for me would Jameis Winston would have been Ryan Fitzpatrick, historically, and when you look back at after Fitzpatrick had this successful season in New York with the jets, and he had Brandon Marshall and Eric decker? I see some similarities to him coming in Winston coming in this year. You got God. When you've got Evans and the excitement now the problem with James Winston with Ryan Fitzpatrick is that there's pretty much no quarterback more prone to turnovers and mistakes than James Winston last year. He only started I think nine games and was had the fifth most interceptions in football. He has historically been a massive interception. Thrower bumbler. And when you look. Aarons and you want to if you want to go to the narrative, and you want to explain both sides of it. Carson Palmer had a career resurgence under Bruce Arians of intially in his first season under Bruce Arians. He threw twenty four Hodge downs twenty interceptions under Bruce Arians. It is a situation where areas wants you to drive the ball down the field. He wants you to be cognizant of all these different elements in the offense. And he's got the weapons to do it. I have no doubt. The Jameis Winston will have monster games under Bruce Arians. My biggest concern is the turnover pro nature, and what could you could get every third game. Could be a classic Ryan Fitzpatrick type of game historically wear fire fire. I I right. I would wanna wanna stay in the game of thrones theme here. It's a song of ice and fire for James Winston out his career. And he hasn't done you made the argument he's done it. But you also then said he's never done it on a season. He has never thrown for thirty touchdowns in his career. There is risk. There's definitely risking. I get it. He's a value. Who's a shot? Everybody's going to pick some guy to take a shot on. Yeah. I would say the the risk just comes down to his draft price. If you're drafting him in the double digit rounds, I think the risk is absolute minimal. And could there have been a transition for James Winston because you're right? He was a turnover machine, but one he got he got his job back week eleven and he kept it through the end of the season. He threw thirteen touchdowns and four interceptions across those games. I mean, it was a good stretch. It was it was on pace for twenty nine touchdowns of eight hundred. Right. Every not Jamison. It was the best. Jameis Winston that. We've seen play in the NFL. But during that time, he was averaging. Eighteen and a half points per game which puts him on that that for the season would have been quarterback eleven. Yeah. That that's not that great. Now, we're into which to to the defense of that the the margin between like Matt Ryan and that eighteen and a half points per game. It's very very small. So I'm not I don't think Jason's crazy for having him. We've been here for though we had this exact same end of season projection for him last season. Right. But then, but then he was suspended for three games. So everything kind of blew up in the off season it did. And so I'm sticking with what I believe two years ago. He's not suspended. He doesn't have a backup that could come in. And and if you look at those those last games where he played very well. But it was still like quarterback eleven not really smoke and happy one of the things I like about Winston gotta be smoking half. You gotta be having. If you're not happy, you're smoking sat one of the things I like James Winston is that you can you can figure out win to play him. You know, he he shows up for those crazy games where it's like, oh, he's he's going up against the great offense. And if he's playing a great defense. I'm not so much like, for instance, nobody in the world last year. Played Jameis Winston on the road against Baltimore for that game. Because Baltimore was on fire. Baltimore held him to four fantasy points that game that was atrocious. If you take that game out where nobody's going to start him. Anyways. His fantasy points per game are much higher than the quarterback. I think people should realize, we're exhausting. The Jameis Winston topic in part because this is going to be a shock to the system to have them at eleven. I mean, Jason's ranking are consensus ranking puts them at eleven so it's worth looking at both sides and a number twelve is well good friend of mine. Josh Allen, just down. I have matured twelve Jason hasn't been fifteen Mike at nine. Yup. He is to me. The most interesting fantasy football quarterback there is because there are so many things to love and so many things to hate about Josh Allen. He goes deep more than anybody in football by a wide margin. He goes deep over twenty percent of the time the next closest was like in the fourteen fifteen percent range, Mahomes, isn't even he's like at number four. Josh Allen went deep that many times. But here's the thing worse, completion percentage and football. But also third lowest passage him. So if he had a bad game it was a bad game. If he had a good game. It was a good game. Not throwing the ball a ton pressured like crazy and still put up a monster fantasy week season. Mike, you haven't the highest. Yes. And I love him. So let me paint the picture of Josh Allen last year is rookie year. He never surpassed two hundred and forty five passing yards. He had a ten to twelve interception. Touchdown to interception ratio. That's bad four games. Under fifty percent of passing completion fifty three percent on the year. But we play fantasy football. And once he returned from his injuries week twelve through seventeen he was the number two quarterback putting up nearly twenty four points per game. And he was only point two points per game behind the Shawn Watson who was the number one quarterback through that stretch because in four of six games yet ninety five or more rushing yards. He had a rushing touchdown in four of six games. This is he is Tim tebow. I like him a lot more than James Winston for for a lot of reasons. Not only just how he finished last year. But I see so much upside in what Josh Allen is going to do. Now, the completion percentage guys, I'm going to be honest with you. I I will be super surprised if that improves this here, and I don't think it now it'll improve from fifty three but like fifty four maybe we all have goals fifty five the goal. But here here's why if you look hit the worst receivers in all the foot. Football since twenty sixteen in terms of reception percentage, we talked about Michael Thomas seventy seven percent from drew Brees the two worst in all of people. They jones. Yeah. I mean who's already on the roster. John Brown last year. John Brown was bad John Brown caught like forty something percent of his passes last year. He was that just the nature of John brownie gets targeted sixteen yards down the field. And here's John Brown going to a place where he likes to throw the ball deep. I don't think the completion percentage is important for Josh Allen is a fantasy owner at all now. Call Beasley had one of the highest reception. Percentages and football, maybe helps a little bit. It has to change for Josh Allen to still be grants. And if it does change with the weapons he's greater so it's for me. It's Tim tvos ex. He's far more Cam Newton than he is Tim tebow to me because he's he's very athletic. I think I expect them to continue to run the way he did towards the the second half of the season. It's gross. I don't like it. I don't I don't like the fact that I'm real happy to play a quarterback who completed fifty three percent of his passes. But here we are. Because this is the way that fantasy is scored. Yeah. So I haven't down at fifteen. I'm not nearly as bullish as you guys on Josh Allen. I certainly see the upside my reason is this obviously Josh Allen his fancy production comes down to his legs, not his arm. He's not going to be throwing three hundred and fifty yards game three tugs. That's not what he does. But you know, he can I mean over the last stretch when he was back in the game. He was was he the quarterback one or the quarterback to? I mean, he was to find shirt by joints. Right. I mean, he was unbelievable. And that all was because of his rushing. And so I wanna make a point though, he lost. You you need to remember. He lost all of his weapons. Kelvin Benjamin was his number one. They got rid of between injury and the trades. He basically was down to who. Did he lose? Well, he lost Kelvin Benjamin. I would say wasn't a part of that end of season that he's saying he ran war because the passing weapons at the beginning. The beginning saying that because he didn't have passing weapons. Yes. He ran. Yes. And now look at what they did this off season they went and they got him every passing weapon they could mediocre or not they they're trying to make sure that he can throw better. Right. Look at the beginning of the year. What they wanted to do Josh Allen. He was on pace a sixteen game pace for four hundred and thirteen rushing yards. That's that's pretty good. That's really, I mean, that's nice. That's going to be top three or four in the league. But that's what they wanted out of him to rush. The last part when he was that top in quarterback. Do you know his pace he was on pace for twelve hundred and sixty nine rushing yards because he was more of a running back then he was a quarterback similar Lamar Jackson. But I don't believe that's what they want out of him. If they did. I'd be like, oh, he's my quarterback three. But what they want? They were headed as a team what they want to feed out his way. And that's the way that Josh Allen is going to have to win games that will be figured out quickly. Lamar Jackson at third. Thirteen we all have them about the same spot eleven twelve eleven Lamar Jackson. I was disappointed because from the time he took over. I was expecting to get a great performance from him. We never really did. Fifteen twenty sixteen eighteen sixteen sixteen twenty six. Look, we know he runs the football. The story is very similar to that of Josh Allen. I mean, they both were the top two runners in at the position one was Mark Jackson. Number two was Josh Allen. In terms of yards at the quarterback position. Both guys have to learn how to throw the football to to give you sustained great performances on a week to week basis. Lamar Jackson problem was fumbles. Why do we like or or why do you like Jackson over Allen, Mike, are I guess both of you are not my? Oh, no Jackson. Yeah. I like Jackson more than Allen because they had designed runs for him on you know, every third play my worry with Lamar Jackson is whether he can sustain that and not get injured. But while he is not injured. I know for sure they want him to run the ball far more than I believe buffalo wants. Josh sounds run the ball. They've redesigned the offense four Lamar Jackson this year. So what you saw last year was a really safe quarterback every week you were happy with Lamar Jackson and that was with him coming in the middle of a rookie year. You know, he was started behind flacco. Now, he's got an offseason an offense designed around him. I think he for sure takes a step forward. Now. He's been working on his accurate. That's really story. I mean, it was really I was so impressed when I saw quarterback saying. I want to be even better at quarterback. And I was like, yeah. Sure. That's really good Lamar. But yeah, I mean the way that I see it. He was safe. He didn't have any big boom games. But he certainly can I think he takes a step forward. And I'm more confident in the rushing totals from our Jackson, and I'm not really worried about the injuries. Because as soon as he's injured whatever I'll pivot, and I'll go to a different quarterback off of waivers versus you're not gonna get minibus from from Jackson or Allen. Yeah. I mean, the no whenever you have rushing. We gotta fix it. See, I'm I'm more. I would say I'm more confident in the Mars rushing total, but I'm more confident in Josh Allens rushing touchdowns. So that's why I like Allen a little bit more. It's funny though, Jake is Lamar Jackson on the basis of rushing yards. Led them to the playoffs and winning a bunch of games in a row playing that style of football. Yeah. And that it was almost like it was valuable for you on the playoffs though. Well, okay. But I'm just saying that the the weeks that his players went up for running. That's what he does Jared. I felt more comments after our first quarterback show about a quote unquote, disrespect of Jared Goff in his then I think any other quarterback last year. He finished as the QB seven thirty two touchdowns twelve interceptions. He was a QB to until points from weeks two through eleven during the wondrous run of the Los Angeles Rams after the bye Gulf was the QB twenty six now a lot of factors in play allot injuries. Todd Gurley Cooper cop knocked out. He didn't even he didn't play the full games at the end of the season. So maybe throw out kind of the QB twenty six kind of distortion field had a real bad Super Bowl. We can blame. Sean McVeigh can blame playcalling girly same things. We don't know. If Cooper cups going to be back for week one. The latest report says they're hoping, but I. I could I could take a nicer report in that. I would prefer to hear better report than that. So look Jared Goff. I've got him at fifteen. Yeah. Your reason he's in the shows is Andy's ranking bowl Jason. And I have him as a top ten quarterback. Oh instead of being in the first show. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I I didn't like what I saw at the end of the year from Jared Goff. And I wasn't. I'm not super confident in the girly resurgence and without girly. I think golf is real bad. So I think girly coming back being one hundred percent. Dow will probably just my ranking Jared Goff quite a bit. I need to know that this offense is gonna run like it ran in the first eight games and not the second half of the season playoffs. So if he's got all his weapons and girls one hundred percent Jared Goff is going to functionally be affected. Yeah. It's one of those things where I am. You know, I I don't I don't love Cooper Cup as much because he's coming off the. Injury. If he wasn't I would you be my number one Rams wide receiver. But I really like him. I love Robert woods. I love Cooper Cup. It's it's for anchor and Cook's is very similar to my James argument. If all of those players, I believe are going to have really good seasons than the quarterback necessarily should perform in. And we you the for last year. Yeah. He will be he will be an upper half quarterback. No matter what I don't know. If there's a situation where a guy safer to be in that realm. I think kind of the inverse of your argument, I don't really see Goff being a top five guy. So because of that I would rather take a shot on Josh Allen. Sure, I think I'm in Goth is safe though. I'm I'm completely bought airy safe. I'm bought into the offense. Even if it's if it's somebody else running the show at at the running back position. I think that they will get. Close close maybe is too much, but they will get strong production from the running back to keep the offense moving. Jared Goff was a stud for fantasy for over half of the season. And you can look at the numbers where I usually I well the touchdown touchdown regression has to come for this quarterback except the past two years, Jerry. God's running back has led the league in rushing touchdowns and Gough still gets to put up. He did struggle without girly though, he struggled without the running game working at a high capacity. I got I was gonna ask you both. It's hard early was out or or limited in the playoffs. I will agree, but it's hard to a that. Because. C J Anderson was awesome to close out the season. Like, I think that's I think that was actually what the situation was like the game against Arizona's awesome is a runner yet. Didn't offer the kind of screen game. We talked a lot about what kind of plays Jared Goff. Got sure where he was the line. He gets the Robert woods takes the underneath the mesh route to the house. Girly gets what three four five six of those screen pass sixty Arturs every year. You're not going to get that with a backup girly on serve right now with C J Anderson as much as I love him. He's not breaking away for sixty. So I just think it's a fluidity thing. You know, how you get out there? And you see the team running on all cylinders. They just didn't look that way at the end of the year. Like, I said all adjusts that ranking if girly looks if the offense looks like cups, healthy girlies, healthy Goff deserves more respect than fifteen. Sure. Malcolm Brown is. I think a little little bit more capable in the pass catching game than C J Anderson. And I'm going to go on record and say, I think McVeigh's a good coach. He's he's pretty good at offense and his beard is manicure. Oh, it is finally manicured Big Ben Rothlisberger the quarterback three from a season ago. Thirty four touchdown sixteen interceptions. It is harder back three this one. It was rough man. Hardest guide rank. Yes, my fifteen Jason sixteen. I have been eighteen I think we all don't want to draft him. And we all didn't wanna rank him loses. Antonio Brown loses. Levian bill. Not that he had him last year. But still loses him and. Is coming off a monster season. I mean, the the way that I look at it is this is not just an indictment. A lot of times you see these quarterbacks. Okay. I've got him ranked as my quarterback sixteen that is not just solely an indictment on Big Ben. It's also an endorsement of fifteen other quarterbacks because I said last episode, and is really important if you if you didn't catch less episode this year more than any year in recent memory. There are more quarterbacks that are great Twenty-one quarterbacks on my rankings. I like, I'm fine with Big Ben. But I just like other people more and whenever you lose Antonio Brown. I mean, he had two of the top ten wide receivers in I believe real-life, but definitely and fantasy when you lose one of those you take a step back. It's just impossible not to lose Tonio Brown and not take a step backwards. Big Ben's history is not at the upper echelon of the fantasy finish chart either. If you go to twenty thirteen it was eleven five twenty one eighteen ten three. Tendency to get injured I feel like Jason you would prefer to have ranked the quarterbacks one through eleven and then ten guys tied at twelve for the toddler. Exactly, I still think that top twelve is in the range of outcomes for big I do too. I think that twelve is. But I don't think QB three is willing without. There. Philip rivers sixteen Tom Brady at seventeen rivers kind of in the same boat. You know in terms of where we're ranking him only one time last season one game. Did he put up a week winning great performance? So it was a pretty steady season for Philip rivers. Forty three hundred yards thirty two touchdowns twelve picks. Finish this QB eleven that steady. Tough week sixteen couple of duds throughout the season. But pretty steady is there, you know. Hi touchdown rate last year. He this team is more Melvin Gordon's than it is Philip rivers at this Abadi, but even still it's like Jared Goff despite Melvin Gordon being they're getting a ton of rushing touchdowns. Melvin Gordon is a huge asset in the passing game. Fill rivers is it's he's similar like Big Ben to it where it's hard to rank. Because it's just the upside is right is what but he's going to be super solid. I mean, this guy he he is an activity. He is a yogurt that is going to keep your regular fair. If you look at his career finished year after year after year. He's almost always a back in quarterback one literally almost always you've got enough data to know where he's going to finish. So well, he finished above my ranking of him at seventy s. Yeah, he he will he'll finish a quarterback twelve. But that doesn't mean you want to draft doesn't mean I want to draft him because his upside he's literally only finished with the top. Five at the position once and it was in twenty ten I that's a long time ago now, so I don't think he's got room to go up. He's just going to be steady. And I want to take my shot late in the draft at a guy, I think has the potential to because they're they're a good defense. And they look lowest total passiveness in ten years. For Philip rivers. So he he remained steady regular as Mike would say, yes. Because of a six point three percent touchdown rate the second highest of his career and his completion percentage me he threw the ball five hundred and eight times, and you can look two years ago. He threw the ball five hundred seventy eight times yet. He only had two fewer completions this year. So if you want some context for the NFL schedules coming out, and we're getting into the range of like, you might draft the player to stream them for a few weeks. Right. That's where we're at at the quarterback position. Philip rivers could be your last pick in the draft. If he has a great early season schedule, and he could be the guy you start with or platoon, Tom, and it seems like he always starts off the season hot and tails off near then. Yeah, I felt that last year. Yeah. It's like this show. To me. I find the guy. Jason Jason's been fighting. Jason's been told you to stay off the Oregon trail man, he's got is it to berkey Los Brooks. Have we got him tested, or is it the black lung, or is that is that the same thing? I don't know. But I think I got the black lung PA. Yeah. Well, the plant man can help Tom Brady Hannam Brady. Do I have a plan drop new? I honestly don't see it. Mike. I did Brooks. You gotta get organic. You gotta get that thirty five dollars a meal organic plan. Jason in your lungs would feel better. It don't talk to me. You gotta talk to Mike. You're Mr. Rankin him at quarterback Twenty-one. Yeah. That's right. That's fine. Get out of my life fantasy fine. That's his way of saying. I'm done with Tom Brady is a fantasy. Starting darn right. No more gronk, no more unfair advantage. No, more gronk cheat code. No. I seen. Yeah. I mean, we're it's just not that exciting in New England. It's affective non exciting. He threw for one touchdown or fewer in half of his games. That is destruction to your Brady. Yes. If the forthcoming, you know, rise of Sony, Michelle that we I think all three definitely Andy sees coming as you know, relying on him, especially around the goal line happens. That's only going to continue to hurt the touchdown up side of Tom Brady the quarterback twenty-five from weeks eight through thirteen perfect. Will he be on any of your teams? No, not any of ours. Mitchell Trubisky at eighteen this one surprises me. And I look I've thrown the most eight on on Mitchell, obviously famously. Six touchdowns against you. Yes. Against me. He put up six, touch and that was against me personally. Not in fantasy just like it. We were on the menu. Yes. But I've got him at fourteen. You guys have them in nineteen and twenty. Here's an example. Like, we just literally talked about a three pack of elder statesman that we know what we're getting and big Benfield rivers Tom Brady. The upside is not really there. But they're consistent verses a guy like Mitchell Trubisky who there's upside the upside is there, right? Matt Nagy going into year two systems. You've got a guy that I mean look last year he finished his quarterback fifteen but in fourteen games on a per game basis. He was the quarterback twelve I think Mitchell as a football player forget fantasy in real life. I think Mitchell Trubisky is better this year than he was last year another year in the system another year in the NFL. Remember, you only had one year as a starter in college. So, you know, the evolution. I would expect him to take a slight step forward. And if he does a slight step forward from the quarterback twelve on on a per game base. That's someone. I'm interested in if he falls late and drafts he had four great game. So that'd be twenty five or more fantasy points. And they kind of distorted into rising number is the issue, you know, week four forty three fantasy points. I think that's when he famously destroyed your soul week seven thirty one week ten thirty six so the offense is kind of built to allow for that to happen. So you're going to have that from Mitchell. So he's a good streaming candidate. And there is upside to him. Yeah. But I'm leaving him in the streaming category. Huge games. Four mass of games too. Good games. Eight bus eight time you played and he eight eight times. And what was weird was when he started the season. And he was having these huge games as I seven games. He ever GE forty two rushing yards a game. That's fantastic. That's that's the type of base on you want from your running quarterback, the final seven games. He rushed. He was averaging eighteen yards a game on the ground. And that's. That's not what you want from for Mitchell Trubisky to put up these huge gains. I'm just I am when we talk dot going to draft when we talk about risky, anywhere, Mahomes Goff, the success of the, you know, the frequency of which they targeted the running back out of the backfield. Is this addition by subtraction? Gordon Howard, where now you have a capable three Cohen Mike Davis combination that can get points, some cheap points to Mitchell Trubisky that that's exactly what I was going to bring up losing Jordan Howard helps Mitchell Trubisky fantasy value because the dump offs will be there. They tried to get Jordan Howard involved. You look at the beginning of the season. Yeah. Go into the year and they're targeting Howard. But he's not a good pass catcher. And there's a big difference between a guy who can catch a ball and stride. Keep running get yards after the little dump off catch in a guy who has to kind of like pause seize the day grabbed the ball tackle does by extension that hurt. Carson wentz. I don't I don't think it does. Because I love Carson wins. No. But the, but the thing is is they've always I feel like they've they've used a guy like that. They've had legare blunt there. They didn't really target JJ. So I think they they know am I I think that it's it's very similar situation for wins. As he's been used to that Prescott comes in at number nineteen are consensus rankings. I seventeen Jason Mike in nineteen last year. He finished at ten feels like disrespect it is. It's too low definitely played he played much better. Once Amari Cooper arrived. In fact, he was a top eight quarterback in five of the eight starts with Amari Cooper, a seventy one percent completion rate rate from week nine on their talking extension with both Amari and dock trying to make this a pairing for quite some time. So do you believe in the second half Dak I guess not? Yeah. Or is it just like I feel like it's liking other guys in war. It is. But honestly, he's he probably belongs higher. It's it's way too low. I I believe it's somewhere in the middle of the second half Dak. Quarterback six is rookie year quarterback eleven quarterback ten in the do his he'll be healthy three years. He's been a top twelve guy threw for three years because he runs gets rushing touchdowns. And now he has a legitimate number one wide receiver. Mike d look on this show. We just we just talked about Philip rivers. We can adjust on the fly here. Part of the show is working through this Philip rivers. You we both have Philip rivers ahead of Dak Prescott. Okay. There. We got him up at least one spot Dacca's now clubbing eighteen you would rather have docked in Philip rivers about big would I? Yeah. That I don't know about that. I don't know. I mean, the reality is I I do think. Because of Dax rushing is rushing touchdowns the way they use them six around six last year. Yeah. I mean, he he's those plays are called. And there's nothing the defense can do other than sell out for Zeke in. So Dak will get those rushing touchdowns. I think he has a good year. And he's probably one of the most universally undervalued guys. He is surprisingly young to be as unsexy a pick. Nobody wants this. This is the burns, man. This is the fantasy burns of in being super hyped and in in for last year. And then he came out in the first half the season was who was pretty bad for your fans. It's not a coincidence that he had a seventy one percent completion percentage in Cole. Beasley nearly the league in completion percentage at the position reception percentage. So you have to believe that Raina cod can do a Nuff of a Kobe's Lee impersonation to keep those numbers. Up and keep fighting's move. I definitely think this is Dax best receiving core. He's ever had. I mean because you win he had galloping at the right? Michael Gallup developing. He's also got Jason Witten back, and I don't expect Jason Witten to be good for fantasy himself. But when it comes to the for Dak hearing on the Wayne. Yeah. Exactly converting Darwin down. That's that's good for deck. I think he's got the best core. He's had. All right, captain, Kirk comes in at number twenty. That's about. That's he's got two of the best receivers in all football. Got a pass catching running back. I mean, where was he wasn't? He drafted as like a top five guy last year close to. No, he wasn't not always in the top ten in the top seven. Maybe. And I mean, rightly so he had been since two thousand fifteen he'd been at least the quarterback eight or better and to start the year. It looked good it. Did it looked very good especially through week eight and then things kind of fell apart? He was a St. was a little bit inconsistent. I had cousins in a lot of places which Jason to your point would say that I got I got a very late cousin. I would not have drafted cousins. If I had to spend an early pick on him. It was late great Kirk cousins is still here. And it was it was tough because he you would he'd really win with the potential of those thirty point games, mid twenty point games. And then he'd rattled off three kind of stinkers in a row, but you knew at any moment. It was defined digs out of feeling that he could give you a top three performance of the week. And you know, a lot of the lots made the Dow and cook they want to run the ball. But Devin cooks, very good receiving. Yes, he is. So that I mean, we talked about that with golf and others dalvin cook should be able to you know, if he's healthy and out there, catching balls. That's that that goes Kirk cousins to it's just so I guess is peculiar to me. Because if you pay her cousins what they paid him in you, turn him into a at least fantasy highs case keenum. I just just a lot of money spent in the passing. I I do think that they'll they'll throw more and and dealing in digs more than we think and theline in digs affords. You great games. He will probably be a streaming candidate for your opponent that you think you're happier playing and every once in a while you really disappointed the way that Philip rivers was a couple of years ago. When when I said earlier that I've got you know, Twenty-one quarterbacks that I'm happy to Lee. The draft with right now. I believe he's my twenty-first quarterback. And so I'm happy if I leave in my last round pick, I grab Kirk cousins. So I'm not I'm not going to go. Oh, man. Now, I I've got a giant hole at quarterback. He's fine. He had a seventy percent completion rate. He threw for forty three hundred yards thirty touchdowns, and we're your eight year, and we are disparaging the man. Well, we have standards Mike, we have very high standards very very high. Every very high demand five K tell you what thirty five touchdowns. Why don't you just run for six hundred yards better yet four hundred yards? I'll be happy with that. It will be the same as throwing for four thousand dollars. Right. All right. Hey, it's been a while. Let's get in the back. Mailbag? All right. Been awhile spice it up. Yep. Go to the website, click this amid a question button or dial a voicemail hotline three zero two four six four t FAFB. We love help in the foot clan. Get right in the offseason, Alex in Wilmington, North Carolina. Now as to get right? Not regular might not another look. There's nothing yogurt related is nothing wrong with being regular. In fact, it's healthy. It is your total type of guy. Hey, guys loved the show says Alex I am trying to decide between keeping Pat Mahomes for a ninth rounder or Travis Kelsey for a fifth rounder off Mahomes is a no brainer for such a late pick. But Kelsey is in his own tier. I it's a great value on both players. Yeah. And and look, we're we're, you know, I'm the answer at the same time anti Mahomes in general. But that's because the price you're paying for him. Both of these guys are really in their own tier or at least they're top of their position. So to me, I I know my answer. I know my answer. It's a we'll say at the same time one two three meals so Mike, and I are both Kelsey your Mahomes. My reason is just replace ability. That's mine too. If you if you don't get Mahomes of we just went through a bunch of quarterbacks that I'd be happy to are they Mahomes. No. But late replace Kelsey with a tight in. You're not going to be happy with. At all. You're just gonna backwards. Couldn't it afford. You the opportunity to take calcium his at his premium draft costs and still get a great value situation. You wanna take Kelsey in the second round sh but but here's the thing. Then I mean, you got Kelsey Mahomes stack in exchange for a second and ninth. No, that's a legit strat. Just the thought. Yeah. I don't know. I don't think you're gonna go wrong. Yeah. I mean, both are enormous value. It's it's just the re replace ability. There's only one guy who's close to Kelsey tear. All right, Corbin and Colorado. I was offered. Mike Everett Mandela's, it is carbon Dallas. Yes. From fifth helmet. I was offered. Mike Evans now hanging. I bring it up Mia Jovovich. And let me just say might give as a as a mcgibbon as Jovovich fan in the past. Oh, no. This is this is this a scathing review. I just wasn't a fan of the new hell boy, that's all I'm saying the old ones the del Toro hallways. Always got me. So jacked up for this. And then I saw meal is in it. She still looks fairly young. I think she kicks massive. But that's all it was. Oh, and the thing is is maybe she's just not can she not act. Am I right? I can she not act multi bass 'cause multi passes not a along script. Boom. I mean, I I I think you your love for the old ones and your love for me Jovovich is that's what made you want to see you posted on our channel. Like, hey, I'm going to get tickets for this movie on the roofs. Who is going with me, and you were a low tonight along, thanks. I've seen at least two other people's money going to that movie. But yeah, anyway, not the best actress in that film. Yeah. Moving on that came out of Corbin in Colorado. Chris names Corbin now did this to himself if he was in Dallas, can you imagine go of a man? I was offered Mike Evans, and I would give up George Kittle. Would you do that trait in a deep dynasty league? Yes. Yeah. For clarity. Oh, no. It's three running back five wide too tight end to flex because it's five wide receiver. Yes. I saw the to Mike as well. No. I saw the too tight end before I saw the five wide receiver. Yeah. I in a startup draft. All you have to do in. These things is think which one would you draft. I, you know, warning, by the way, sleep earlier, Adam gaze is first message to the jets. He came there to throw in the patriots. So there you go wasn't he already in the division with the patriots last year? Now, that's funny. He came there to do when he came there to do before what was your mission last year, not just less for the last several years. What did he come to Miami to do? Come on. But head. I'll go with Butthead. He's he's line goes from be held about it. Come on, man. Those words they'll ring to Brad in Minnesota. Should I trade Travis Kelsey for David Joko in the one? Oh, five in a rookie draft new. No what about David and joke who in the one on one protests Kelsey. I'm just probably know who's the one on one after the NFL draft. I don't even know if I can start David joke this here, if I knew that for sure if I knew that four shirt, the trade is more interesting, but you could be trading. Travis. Kelsey for no tight end. Unfortunately in joke who has all the talent. But we know how agnostic Baker is what the targets and now adele's there. Yeah. All right last one, Anthony and Pennsylvania when will the UK app come out. Hey, randy. Yeah. Ooh. Should go live when the rocket goes live on June first. Yeah, there's a companion app. It's free. It's coming along with the decay this year, it's a tag along. But it's awesome. Not awesome. Not a cookie it's an app. We said this. You gotta take the good jokes with the bad jokes with Mike. That was a great one. There's a delicious job. I mean, tag arguing that is great. All right. Pristine deal of the day. The Andre Hopkins sign Houston Texans jersey yesterday sold for two hundred seventy nine dollars. Nope. No, one hundred seventy nine and a no no seventy nine dollars. Yes. Does ridiculous seventy nine dollars pristine auction dot com. Hundreds of daily action sports memorabilia that goes well beyond football, although they have hundreds of daily football auctions that you can check out pristine auction dot com. Let them know the fantasy footballers since you. I want to start seeing we should talk to pristine about this own start seeing like de'andre Hopkins signed Mike Evans jersey, you know, what I mean like they they sign each other's jerseys. No, just one one direction and you're making fun of my tag along Joe. And if there's any like fifth element gear over their big boom, see Thursday, good. Good. Thank you. For listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join the foot dot com and follow us on Twitter at the F ballers.

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'Valentine's Views' Podcast: Giants-Bucs preview with James Yarcho of Locked on Bucs

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'Valentine's Views' Podcast: Giants-Bucs preview with James Yarcho of Locked on Bucs

"Hello giants fans. I'm Ed Valentine. And you are listening to the Valentine's views podcast here on big blue radio part of the SP nation family of podcasts. Thank you for joining us. And on today's show, we will have special guest jeans York o- of the locked on box podcast, part of SP nations bucks nation, and he will be joining us a little bit later on to preview Sundays giants Buchan years game at MetLife stadium as your New York. Giants look for a second straight victory after Monday night's win over the San Francisco forty Niners before we get to that though. I thought we would talk about a couple of other topics two things I really wanted to discuss today are. The return of Jason Pierre. Paul former giants first round pick to MetLife stadium and also wanted to talk a little bit about the importance or what I see as the importance of winning football games for the giants. Despite the fact that they are two and seven and they're not going to the playoffs. So let's let's start with a discussion of the return of Jason Pierre. Paul. I don't know if you saw the quotes from from JP on Wednesday, but he basically he's fired up for his return to to MetLife stadium, and no one can blame him for that. He spent eight years with the giants. Former number one pick one a Super Bowl in New York was a was a Pro Bowl player for the giants. Played a lot of good football for New York. The giants traded him to Tampa Bay in the off season getting back the third. Round draft choice. Pierre Paul said, basically, I think is quote was I'm coming man, I'm gonna burn the house down. And you know, I don't blame J P P for being for being fired up about this. Maybe for being a little bit bitter about being traded by the giants, you know. But as I wrote at big blue view, I have to look beyond PP's eight sacks this season. I have to look beyond the fact that he's played. Well, when I consider whether the giants did the right thing by trading Pierre Paul to Tampa Bay, I believe that they did I believe that the cap savings that they will get over the next two years. I think something like twenty seven million in cap savings in two thousand nineteen in two thousand twenty combined is going to be well worth wile. I think that helped them sign Odal Beckham. May help them sign Lind and Collins long-term J P P is twenty nine. He's having a nice season. But that was a massive contract. Four years sixty two million dollars that the giants signed him to getting out from underneath that getting a third round pick that turned into defense of linemen BJ hill who looks like he's going to be part of this team's future. I think was a very very good. Get very good move by Dave Gettleman. You're getting a player with a future versus a player with the past. You know, what I always say is it's better to move on from player. A year too early than a year too late. And I believe that what we will see over the next couple of seasons with Jason Pierre Paul is a player who does not play up to the level of that contract. He is right now, I will not argue with that. But I do not believe that he will continue to do that over the next couple of years. I think that over the term of that contract moving on from him. We'll be proven to be the correct move by the giants. It was a move that. I applauded when the giants made it, and I will continue to stand by that. I believe that they did the right thing. What I also want to talk about today is the fact that the giants wanna football game on Monday night. And I see that as a really good thing. I mean patch Dermer said on Tuesday that he saw an e felt in the locker room he felt real joy from the players was his quote after they had won the game. And I think there was a there was a a gift on Twitter of ally manning, and and sterling Shepard running off the field, you know, smiling and patting each other on the back, and and fill in really good about themselves, and to be honest with you, you know, as much as people talk about getting the higher draft pick all of that. It's important for players to feel good about what they're doing. It's important for them to believe in the coaching staff that they're working with it's important for them to believe that they are doing the right? Things that they are making progress that they're doing things the correct way and the only way to validate that the only way to continue to believe in yourselves to win at least occasionally, and I think it's important for the giants to win some football names. That's why I was I was happy to see not only ally. Manningly two game winning drive on Monday night. But I believe that it's good for the young players on the roster to learn to win some games to learn what it takes to win versus how to simply lose games. You know, how to show up every week and lose it's important that that you don't simply accept losing game after game that you learn how to win that you learn that there's a difference when you execute properly when you do things the right way when you take advantage of opportunities that you can be rewarded with victories. So I find you know, winning to be an excellent thing when you when you look at patch Germer, he's still a first year coach with the giants. He still has things to prove. And he's done a good job in a lot of ways. But to validate what he's doing to Vella d. The message. He's delivering the way that he's coaching this football team. Eventually they have to win. And so I was glad to see them. Win a football game Monday night. Yes, it was against a weaker football team. But a win is a win at this point. Yes, it knocks them down a little bit in terms of the NFL draft order, but I'll live with that to watch a football team that makes some progress over the second half of the season to be honest. I wrote it big Lou Vural you're in the week. That's what you want to see you want to see the giants. Get better. No matter what that takes. No matter. What it includes? Whether it includes a long-term change at quarterback. You know, whatever it includes you want to see the giants put a better product on the field. You want to see them improve? It's been ugly now for a year and a half. And you just want to know at some point that it's getting better. And you have some hope heading into the two thousand and nineteen season. That's really what I'm looking for over the final seven games now of this current season. Okay. Giants fans, let's switch gears now, and I will bring in James York o- of locked on bucks. The next segment of our show that you'll hear is a segment that James prerecorded in interview looking at the at the giants bucks game on Sunday. So we'll take a few minutes now and play that interview for you. Okay. Giants fans. Joined now by James York o of the locked on bucks podcast. And we're here to talk about Sunday's giants vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers game. James? How are you? Thank you for joining me. Oh, thanks for having me. I'm doing great. I appreciate the opportunity to come on and chat, a little bucks. Giants with you. Oh, we always liked to talk to someone from the from from the opposing side, get a little little different perspective. And folks, I get tired of listening to myself talk. Anyway. I like to hear myself talk every once in a while because I always agree with me. And I tend to think that I'm a smart guy. That's actually a good point. Because when you're talking to yourself. Nobody disagrees with you. I hadn't really thought about it that way, exactly. So so giants fans, let's let's get into this James. Let's talk a little bit about about Sunday. And I have to start with Jason Pierre Paul who came out today in a conference call with with New York media. And basically he said he said I'm coming. I'm going to burn the house down. And you know, he's looking forward to Sunday. So I guess I'll start with J P, and I know he has a sex. But how has he been for Tampa Bay? He's been incredible. There's no other way to put it. He's been absolutely incredible. The leadership that he is brought both on and off the field after after the loss to the bears. Which was one of the ugliest losses. We've seen in the past few years. And that's saying something you're covering the bucks. He was beside himself in he ripped the team up and down and said he'd never been a part of something like that in his in his entire career. He doesn't he doesn't take to the losing. Well in the problem within the confines of the buccaneers facility is that that's almost become the norm. You can you can go back the past couple of years, and you can find these blowout losses that have just become a regular thing. And so many guys have almost almost become numb to it. So for for Jason Pierre Paul to be part of a defense that allowed Mitchell Trubisky to look like someone who's a first ballot hall of Famer year that that got to him and he and he ripped into the defense. And he said, I don't want to be part of something like this, and we have to turn it around. But bucks fans for your first. As the season has gone now. Six losses in the last seven games after starting off to in. Oh, JP has been one of the few things that they can point to. And they say, you know, what this is something that we can be happy about this guy that we can be excited about because he has a motor that just doesn't stop in. I I mentioned it on the locked on giants podcast yesterday. That is a problem. Now, we're seeing which AP in these past couple of games. He's been battling through injuries. So he's moving a little bit slower. He's not as fluid he hasn't. He hasn't been quite as destructive along the defensive line in terms of playing, but that is opened up the door for Carl NASA who has four sacks in the last four games. He's really stepped his game. Because now people are so worried about Jason Pierre Paul so JP might go down as the best acquisition that Jason white made in his tenure with the Buchan ears. Whether that continues on or he's part of a full house clean. Along with your cutter in coaching staff. That's a really interesting take on JP to be honest with you. I mean, I wrote today at big blue view that it's really easy to look at JP's. Eight sacks to look at the fact that the giants haven't had a good pass rush. This year. And to think that the giants made a mistake, but considering his age considering the injury history considering the money that the giants were able to unload, and considering the fact that his production was all over the map the last few years with the giants and he's playing better with Tampa Bay right now, or at least putting up better numbers than he has put up with the giants in in a long long time. And and the only other thing I will say about J P is it's very interesting. You know, Dirk cutter made the comment today talking to New York media about his leadership, and you just made it as well. And it's very interesting development. It's really interesting for me to hear for the simple reason that J P P wanted nothing to do with being a leader in New York. He they were begging him to lead and his response to that was I just wanna play. And if people wanna follow me they follow me. But I'm base. Basically, I'm just going to do me. Yeah. We've heard those rumblings as well. And and I'm not sure what kind of made that turn. It seems like he takes the leadership approach that we've seen recently with lavar anti David and before that with with Derrick Brooks. Now, of course, the outlier was win. He ripped into the team after the bears game. Like, I mentioned. But he's that that quiet leader that lavar that Rhonda Barbara that Derrick Brooks lead, by example. He's not going to he's not going to take the Defillo rivers route where he's he screaming and guys faces play after play after play. But I think that really has helped with some of these young guys he was he was staying after after practice and working one on one with feta Vega who missed all of training camp due to injury. He didn't get activated until after the bye week. It's a he he was really really far behind to start with. And we've seen those struggles. Especially your your. Already going to struggle as as a rookie. But missing all of that time. So Jason Pierre Paul kind of taken him under his wing and try to help him develop some of these pass rushing techniques that has made JP so affected. So you see the leadership from from that aspect? And maybe it was the fact that he was shipped out of town. Yeah. He said that he's had this game checkmark from the get-go because this is a guy that probably figured that. He was going to be a New York giant for life. And and to be just shipped out of town, whether it was defining decision or or the age, or whatever it might be that probably had to hurt him personally that that a team would just ship him off the way that they did. So there's a little extra fire under GP, and he's been the model of consistency. He, you know, he tied a franchise record for most consecutive games with a sack when he got one against the Cincinnati Bengals he had at least one second six consecutive games. So he's he's really just been a bright. For this team. And for this fanbase interesting, let's hope that he's nice to ally. Manning on Sunday, at least we'll hope from this side. We'll hope he's nice to ally. Well, you you can set guys and still be nice about it. Well, and if you're not you get flagged anymore, but. You're all those years ago and up against ally in practice and not being able to touch him. I'm sure he's going to turn on the afterburners for this one. Oh, I'm sure he will. And that'll be interesting to see James I need to ask you about one other former giant who's now on the Tampa Bay roster. The giants have had lots of issues at the free safety position this year. One of the guys that was in training camp with the giants competing for that job is Andrew Adams who's now with the buccaneers. And I was looking at the stats, and it looked like in your last game looked like Adams played his most significant role of the season. The most snaps that he's played means. He guy whose developing into more of a more of a full or more of a significant part of the Tampa Bay defence. I don't think it has to do with his development so much as necessity. You had Justin Evans go out of the game for a few plays due to injury. They were already missing MJ steward, Ed corner. So they've kind of shifted him around in Houston where they could. But I think it has more to do with with the availability of atoms in the necessity to have bodies on the field more than anything else. So it's not like, he's really, you know, stepping up and becoming a key player for Tampa Bay. He's there and and basically he's filling in. Yeah. Definitely more. So that now that's not to say he can't develop into a player that gets more of a role with this defense. But as of right now, you know, the the safety positions are pretty well locked up with Justin Evans in Jordan, Whitehead, and you have your growing pains with Whitehead who's a fourth round rookie and Evans. Only in his second year. But with the injury problems that they've had it corner of Joe they lost Vernon Hargraves in the first half of the first game. He was out for the season. Nj Stewart has missed the past two weeks with injury and then throughout the games yoke Carlton Davis has heavily for a few plays. Justin Evans is heavily for few plays Whitehead as well. So he's he's filling the role that they need him to fill right now. Maybe with a little bit more time another offseason in in the system, or if the system changes with a with a coaching change, you might see him a little bit more on the field. But right now, he's just ease the role player. He's playing the role that they need him to let me ask you a couple of quarterback questions and we'll start with a simple one. I mean, I know that that Tampa Bay's been losing games lately. But but are you enjoying it's magic? I am. But I'm not. You know, it's difficult to see a guy like Fitzpatrick who is he is a journeyman. He he's never been. You know, the the the starter that the teams have wanted him to be that that circle of fits Patrick where he plays. Well for season gets the big extension, then he's bad than he gets benched in the starter gets hurt. And then he's back at any place. Great over and over and over. But you're also looking at a guy that has now taken the starting role from a guy who was drafted number one overall in James Winston was playing horribly. There's no way to get around it. And you watch him in preseason. I understand it's preseason. But Winston was going up against the number one defenses, and he looked incredible. And then he he goes through the spent the suspension he's away from the facility he can't interact with the team. He can't work with the team. He comes back his mechanics are all his there's something wrong there, mentally it looked a lot of times. Like, he was questioning himself, and he would hesitate. It's like I wanna throw this ball. But I might turn it over. He hesitates any throws another ball in it leads to another interception. He's inside at his own head. So you have Fitzpatrick now who they basically talked out of retiring because they knew a suspension was looming. And he's lighting it up, which is great. But now again, they've lost six of their last seven games. And at this point, you need to see what you have with James Winston, whether they retain this coaching staff, or you're putting together film for future. One Winston has twenty one million dollar option coming up for next year that the bucks can get out of if they bring in a head coach. And they say look do you want James Winston or not if the coach wants him, great if not fine you can move on. But you need more than thirteen quarters in this season to have a coach go in and break down. So the other issue with fits is. He's been so good. And he's been so impressive with Todd monk in calling the place then Dirk cutter takes back play calling and they get five hundred one yards of offense in three points against the Washington. Redskins. An amazing record of of ineptitude. So why would you if you're coaching to save your job? Why would you take away one of the factors that has led to success with this particular quarterback under center, just it doesn't make any sense? So, you know, a long winded answer to to a question is I've enjoyed seeing what Fitzpatrick can do. But at the same time, it's to the detriment of the future of the franchise. That's an interesting way to answer that question, James. It really is. And it leads me to another quarterback question, which is actually about James Winston. Now you obviously understand the situation. The giants are in with the thirty seven year old quarterback with the losing record lots of speculation about whether this will be Eli Manning's last year at the helm of the giants and all of that. And I get the question every so often should. The giants go after James Winston if the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, let him go in my answer to that is you're absolutely kidding me. I want nothing to do with the guy. I mean to be honest with you as a franchise guy bringing him in and pay the money. I want nothing to do with the guy. Am I wrong? Or is. He a guy that you think, you know, in a different circumstance, you could could become a quality quarterback for someone. I think the wealth of James Winstons talent can be put up against just about any quarterback in the league. This guy is just bursting with athletic ability. The problem is you have a coach there who didn't want him dirt cutter yet. He said all the right things afterwards. But Dirk cutter was the last guy on board for James Winston. He wanted Marcus Mario. So they get rid of lovey Smith and keep dirt cutter for the development of James Winston, and it hasn't developed the the question is that you know, none of us are really are. Really sure when we probably won't be until James get somebody else in there or he goes somewhere else. To be coached by another coordinator is is cutter. Trying to force Janus Winston into being a quarterback that he's not in. You're gonna have your mistakes with James. It's part of is gate. Yo the comparison that I've always used his Brett farve. He's gonna make those plays where you're you're holding side your head screaming. No, no, no. No. No. No. No. And then all of a sudden it works in your jumping up and down screaming. Yes. But then have those plays where you just you don't know what to say you're dumbfounded. How could make a decision like that in turn the ball over because he's a gunslinger he feels he considered any football through any window at anytime. So deterrent is there. And the big issue, of course, is going to be the off field concerns. We saw the accusations of Florida state. He was suspended for acusations for an Uber ride in ariz-. Zona? Now, those those accusations came to light towards the end of last season. But the incident allegedly occurred way back in the beginning of twenty sixteen. So whether he did it or not nobody knows it's he said, she said there were two people in the car Janus and the driver. So the only people that are ever going to know what really happened are those two people that being said since that James Winston has gotten married he has had a child anyone who has had a child knows that soon as your first child is born it's almost like you flip a switch. There's a you reach maturity level that you didn't even know existed because you have to care you're you are putting somebody else's life literally in your hands. If that changes James Winston time will tell but there is a maturity issue with him there. There is a mechanical issue with him as far as on. The field. But under a different coaching staff. He might be brilliant. You know, I could I could definitely see Bruce Arians coming into this into this facility and taking Chena centers wing and turning him into a van Rothlisberger. A Peyton Manning in working wonders with them. So giants fans that may want Jamus Winston should he become available. I wouldn't say that they're wrong and the ones that don't want him. I wouldn't say a wrong. But the talent is absolutely there. Interesting James one last question, let's talk specifically about Sunday, a m- not necessarily going to ask you for a prediction. But what are your thoughts on what we might see on Sunday? Just in terms of the matchup itself. A lot of that is is gonna be based on whether or not Dr cutter can swallow his pride and give the play calling back to Todd monkey. You know, this is a head coach that says we're a running football team were a running football team. We're going to run the ball to open up the passing game. Well when Todd in was calling the plays. They weren't running the ball at all in. They had the number one offense and football because nobody could stop the weapons that they have Mike Evans, Chris Godwin. OJ Howard is a human mismatch. No matter. What defense he's going against the speed of Sean Jackson, the the underneath ability of Cameron. Brayden Adam Humphreys, I mean, who do you who do you guard because it's nothing bought weapons. But then you have your cutter takeover playcalling. We're going to run the ball. We're going to run the ball. We're gonna run the ball. Okay. Well, you had five trips inside the red zone against the Washington Redskins. You had. A running back that was averaging four yards per carry. And there were two run place in five red zone possessions. That was that was the downfall. So if Todd Moncton gets the play calling bag I fully expect the buccaneers to be able to win this game. Now if they're cutter is still calling plays. I think we're gonna see something very similar to what we saw against the Washington Redskins. The defense feel can do enough to keep them in the game. Despite the fact that Odell Beckham junior another human mismatch against virtually any defense saquon Barkley who I was very wrong about heading into the draft yet. He is tearing things up in starting to get your out in space more. And then you have Ingram at tight end who you know, if he can hold onto the ball could be a huge mismatch against a team that's already down quality, Sander and might not have avanti's David who who has an MC L rain. So it's. One of those things where it should be whoever has the ball last. But it might end up in the giants are just going to run away with it because of the red zone ineptitude. Interesting. You know, I I lied to you while you were talking I had one more question that I need to I need to back up. An ask you mentioned, Mike Evans, you mentioned Odal Beckham. If I offered you Beckham for Mike Evans, straight up are you saying yes, or no, no? Explain I won't even hesitate again. Odell Beckham junior is amazing talent amazing. But to me, the the money that he got I think is is too much for a receiver that. To too much Terrel Owens for me. If that makes any sense, you know, the the interview that he did with ESPN when he was sitting there with little Wayne and basically throwing his team under the bus saying he wasn't sure if he wanted to be a New York that that kind of stuff rubs me the wrong way, the temper tantrums rubbed me the wrong way any did with Mike Evans. Mike Evans was a hothead early on in his career. He got a jacket from game against the Panthers. Because he he was screaming at a referee that he was interfered with on a pass in a in a game where the Panthers are up by thirty one points with two minutes left, and he sent her screaming at the ref. You know, if it's a penalty in the first quarter SRI penalty now, and he gets jetted, but he's really calmed down a lot. I like what Mike Evans does is. He is he as talented in all facets as Odal Beckham junior. No, he's not he doesn't have the speed that hotel Beckham JR. Senior does he doesn't get the yards after catch dodo Beckham junior does. But personally, I would do I would rather have a guide that can win those windows jump balls into all those things that Mike Evans does without the headaches. Thank you very much for for that answer. And James, thank you very much for spending. Some some time with me today. Why don't you tell the folks where they can where they can find your work before we let you go. Yeah. You can you can check out everything that I'm doing over at bucks nation dot com. I'm one of the co host of locked on box. It's myself and a fellow bucks nation member. David harrison. Yeah, we do our shows five days a week, of course, and you can follow along on Twitter at locked on box at JR co underscore box and at bucks underscore nation in. I really appreciate you you giving me some time to to talk Buchan ears giants. Hey, thanks for coming on and good luck. On sunday. Just, you know, send J P P A memo to be nice to ally. And we'll be fine. All right. Sounds good. Thanks, james. Thank you. All right. Giants fans. That's our show for today. We think James York o of locked on bucks for giving us a few minutes. Please. Remember to subscribe to big view radio on all of your favorite podcast applications? Also our next episode which is scheduled to air on Friday will feature Dan position. And Chris flam talking NFL draft. We hope that you'll tune in for that. All right. Thank you. 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Postgame Show: Domonique Foxworth & Matthew Modine

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Postgame Show: Domonique Foxworth & Matthew Modine

"Apologies for how claustrophobic that felt at the end. Perlman was really good. We wanted more and more details from Jeff Pearlman because he's clearly reported the Holy Hell out of that book as he often does why he's a New York Times bestselling author who dunks on me when I asked him about basketball books not selling We have time to get to Dominic Foxworth and Mike Ryan arguing about whether or not Jameis. Winston could do important special things in New Orleans and eliminate the turnovers. Basically it's an odd Argument the taste on Hell James Winston argument whatever I mean it's it's it's not something that people argue about but no, this is actually something that people argue about all the time and it really bothers me on twitter how passionate people are about this topic but I don't think there's going to be an argument. All I want dominy to do is admit that it's probably a little too soon to rush to judgment on some hill given how little we've actually seen it tastes hill, and then we're good bud-. Dominate too soon to rush to judgement the judgement at that tastes them is A. Football player as younger in would say who can throw I would not consider tasting hill quarterback because you know what you don't do with quarterbacks. Put them on kickoff team and make them your personal protector. If you think that this person has the most difficult skill, it is to find his sport. You're not risk that by making him h back. So not only do I think that he is starting quarterback Sean Payton not think that he's a starting quarterback evidenced by the fact that they did all that and then they. Went and picked up probably the highest profile backup quarterback. There is so I I'm not super passionate like I eight take hill but I think that it's pretty obvious that no one really sees takes them as a starting quarterback in this league even the people who pay him sixteen million dollars it's a cute little trick that you're doing with highest-profile available backup quarterback because number one no. That one is starting for the New England Patriots Right now, there wasn't a big market for Jameis Winston think James Winstons kind of fully formed product. Out. Did. You say that a backup is starting. Well the in terms of like what you were saying in terms of what was perceived to be the backup market you made him the highest profile to just boost your argument and it's just built on a fallacy because Cam Newton was available for everybody. He wasn't guaranteed the Sunni job and now dominating for the Patriots let's not get hung up on that. Your job is a football coach is to find. Now it's okay. Dominic Polian Dominique poll I have controls Dominic Polian with now apparently lamenting the fact that trump eaton's just putting the best possible football players on the field I'm sorry hill can start over drew brees That's that's difficult. Considering you know drew brees set you know milestones in that sport tastes him. Hill is actually good at all those other things. I have a very difficult time believing Chad Henny can run protection on the punt team otherwise, you'd see it. Okay cool but we can put your risk. So people who played positions they messed up their shoulders, they mess elbows, they get concussions they have a terrier yells they have injuries that would. Limit their ability to progress going forward. So like you would think that is the rich, just a risk taking and I'm not argue tasting hill I'm happy and pay love people getting paid I think hill can probably start a few games in this league at quarterback but he is not the caliber of quarterback that you would want to build your team around and going forward and I don't think that's much to argue about and maybe I could be wrong but it's not like tastes some young prospect like pay some who takes him in and saying that he can't thought of drew brees. Really saying that much on. At this point. Breeze is not all that great and I was last year and I think that Jameis Winston I'm hi Jamie Watson with champagne going forward. I think that's GonNa be a good marriage. If you think back to drew brees, they draft Philip rivers and decided they were going to move on from drew brees, Florida breeze got. We've already out the door we make it like she got injured. So then he had to leave no, he was out the door and he was thought to not be a top level star in this league. Any gets with shopping and together they become this. I think it's possible given. The fact that James Winston is also thought of as one of the smarter football guys out there contrary to what you may believe most people think that his issue was is with over analyzing not not being able to re Defense I. think that is a better future. So if you had to choose between those two I, put my money on. James Winston. And Sean paying making pretty future that more than I would on. Age back and Shawn Payne doing the same thing. Dismissive to call him an H Mak. He's good at those things and much better than your standard backup quarterback. It's unlike James Winston can do those things oddly enough. The best argument to be made for a lack of faith in his ability to quarterback was the recent nugget that was reported by Adam Schefter that the saints if drew brees retired were in on the Tom Brady sweepstakes that would probably be the biggest indictment however. A minute half the buck against your notion that Tastes Hill isn't a quarterback you build around when the Saints Have Christened Him with this sixteen million dollar a year contract that basically says, you're the guy maybe as soon as next year, they're essentially telling you with their dollars. No we will build around this guy because we couldn't afford to let him go as a free agent and get nothing back outside maybe traffic here or there. Maybe you're right. But I don't think that's why I think they brought him back for that amount because what he means to their offense because their quarterback is aging and their quarterback ten, not through certain passes takes them hill the guy that they bring in for certain gadgets to Kinda. Manufacturer big planes because they don't believe their quarterback and do so. So I think that's what the money was. Not necessarily for to retain him as their therapy going forward and Yeah, I don't know we can. We're I it seems foolish to argue about. Imagining. What we think the saints behavior suggests, but I do think that James Winston is a more promising long term quarterback in some until I think you'd be hard pressed to find people who disagree with the with. The. Saints Disagree because they gave them sixty million dollars and they barely gave teams winston any guaranteed money but I will say I just sort of about the market not necessarily about the potential to player. came. Off. Camera Budgets. To look at what the market the market is set by several NFL jeans while I respect your your NFL opinion i. respect that of all the NFL GM's over yours and I will say people sound awfully certain that Tastes Hill can throw the ball when I've seen them actually throw the ball I've been impressed with what can we make a judgment on tatum hill and his ability to throw the ball given how little we've actually seen him doing it. I think you can make a Jesuit based on what he was in college and what he has done in this league they have not asked him to read. I think fast. Wait a second dominic. Lamar Jackson's accuracy has improved year-over-year. Why can't you afford foretaste hill that benefit considering he threw the nicest pass in the play offs. The Marge Actions Agar's no I'm not talking about accuracy or those skills. It's just being a quarterback and reading defenses. Then doing those things Kamar Jackson wasn't always good those things you're talking awfully coded here. Dominique Foxworth awfully coded and I don't appreciate this rhetoric that is sent us back several years. We're trying to make progress here. Gentlemen I rest my case hold on a second why get cracked the Code Got Billy Billy why do you have your head in your hands? Why Bill You were holding your head is if that's the worst radio you've ever heard in your life and you wanted to bring back the massing or do they. have to go to bathroom and I was like this is what I put off going to her. I WanNa eat totally fair Mike Ryan. Dominique. Anything else to say on this matter of look at Mike Discussing last word I. One more. Dominant. Think. glassworks works for you I. Think. I am. I have a last word. All Right Mike York you're right. I'm sorry this is unacceptable. The way that I I'm trying to pigeonhole tasting hell it's not right and people like taking hill have been held back for far too long. So it's been unfair and I'm sorry HAYSOM help power going forward I. Think you need to be more profuse in your apology because I really feel some of that language was coated your dismissing the guy who doesn't read defense is the white. Catholic. Morin James or Super. SMART. But the white meat had he doesn't know anything like I think you need to apologize for that part to black lives matter. I don't bother out for all that and I think it is terribly unfair. The oppression that tastes them hill and people like takes them. Hill have felt for so many years and football, and it's unfortunate I'm sorry to be a part of the infrastructure that perpetuates the disadvantage of the white quarterback I'm sorry taking and all other white quarterbacks we've been disadvantaged these decades of unfair treatment apology accepted. Thank you dominate you're not a white quarterback, I mean behalf of white quarterbacks or accepting the apology. Good point by STU guys get out of here. Browbeaten defeated apologizing and slightly racist Dominique Foxworth. Thank you for being on with us. We appreciate the time Dominique. The Wrong Hilda die on right there. Who? awkwardly from there, Billy Joel has now Oh. My God he poked himself billy. Are you okay you are straining. You're you're still hanging in there is everything okay I'm I'm good so far How did you feel about Cody's performance today? No one's more delighted by cody than you are are the one consistently laughing at all the awful shit cody does on this show, we'll get to Matthew Modine inexplicably in the second what? What what was it about cody today that had you howling I'm a little disappointed. We never got to the callers asking him about gardening. Oh. That's right failed. Now they're gone. All right. Let's pick it up tomorrow right there. What do you think? Do you think? He's not. No. But why don't we just call him and start the national show on Wednesday? Eve after a game a game three in. Nuggets, and after headed into this twitch party that we're going to have Wednesday nights to God's by the way was looking for the window at the end of the show to make the joke when Greg Cody said. I'll be there in spirit could sue got spent the entire time trying to get in there with can I be there? With. Love nothing more than my spirit to be there. What is it? What is the objection explained to US thirty years the objection case. It is the way we are. So old wait a minute. We are so old as a show before we get Matthew Modine we are so old as a show that Mike Ryan was sitting here and talking before the show about the amount of yet metamucil he's buying off of the game show network. You ever you ever watch the game show network I. Know you're with me it caters just two people of a certain age or digestive tract problems and man metamucil has worked for my sloppy antacids and sue guides I gotTa tell you. My wife is eighty years old. I am going home every day she's reading people magazine's watching the game show network and all the commercial breaks. You're right. It's for metamucil commercials for old people. But. Mike, you're thirty five. Thirty. The intestines of an eighty five year old know. But I'm a couple of years away from fifty already fifty like what we would give to be your age to be thirty-five. Again, what I give to have your intestines although you've been, you've been hearding today. Haven't you? Yeah. My stomach Earth metamucil. A. Full metamucil. All right. Let's get younger talked to Matt Modine. Matthew the mornings that Dad. Yes, sir. I am here is. Next. Year they're always anywhere I go. Allow at I just got to ask because I, because I had some Italian neighbors when I was little and. I don't WanNa be brewed, but still got. Expression in Italian like yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. You're not being rooted all. Yeah. Like balls. Yeah my real last name is Weiner. So it's not much better so The derivative of cocky and balls is is do God's yeah. So you you you have it right though you many or jarred when they hear that it was quite the fight to get that name even put on ESPN. So thank you. Thank you for pointing it out very delicate way you ask. You were very gentle. It was really kind of amazing to hear you go. Hey, listen are you To Ball. God. Autorite, let's pick this up here. Ready. All right. So this is a name you recognize. Matthew Modine, he's here on behalf of full metal jacket. It is a classic. It's one of the classic war movies disturbing. I remember being disturbed by this movie it is now on Four K. L. Alterra hd Blu Ray Combo Pack and digital available now Matthew Modine with us on ESPN radio I twenty to thirty minutes of that movie is as good as intense. A movie you'll ever see in your life. Do you agree what about the rest of it? What about the rest of it is great with wanted thirty minutes The whole thing is is disturbing matthew joins us now on ESPN radio got a number of different questions for him. Thank you for making the Time magazine I'm curious if your experience growing up among you know several siblings I think six siblings in a drive in movie theater is the reason that you gravitated toward acting. Oh, there's no question that that I had an infant sin in those days that the drive in theaters, the the managers would book the movies they they would receive sixteen millimeter trailers of movies were coming out that year and my dad would. Take. What movies he thought would do well, which would make money at I've been. And and everyone's why you'd get these feature at. That would explain how does. It was really exciting when about to making the dirty dozen. And you know seeing Lee Lee Marvin and all those actors in. England It was so cool. and. Then I saw one about Darby Hogan the little people which had sean connery in it and I was I got really confused because. You know a little boy. You'd think Sean Connery is You Know James Bond, and then all of a sudden you see him. This. Movie about the making of a movie where he's hanging and and playing kind of this Scottish person from the highland during the time of a Leprechaun's so and then I saw one about the making of Oliver's movie Oliver and the kids were singing dancing. So I thought well, that's a good life that's what I should be doing. So we were living in Utah at the time I started taking tap dancing lessons and join the glee club and and then you know started taking. Drama classes and and? appeared in school plays absolutely played a big part in my child that. How does it come to be then I and what happened exactly I don't know if it was full metal jacket or something else where you're getting offered the big roles in top gun in Wall Street in back to the future one of them while you're doing you know you're out here doing full metal jacket like how that time in your life, what was it like and how did you arrive specifically there were those rules are arriving at your doorstep. Well you know that Thing that they call in Hollywood, they say all the person's hot. So you know every producer directors trying to raise money and get their movies made. So when an actor has some heat on that that that there's a better chance that they'll be able to. receive. The. Financing. Films. So it's a it's a really silly thing. It doesn't have anything generally to do with the ability it it it's a, it's a about finance. in sometimes you have a combination of both you know like. They take any of your favorite actors and not only as Jack Nicholson a an amazing actor, but people go to see his movies. So it was financed and talent. You Know Al Pacino Robert Deniro. The people that you know whose careers that I really look up to and admire So it was a combination of of box office. Success, and talent. But was it born of full metal jacket? The role in full metal jacket like hotness came from where specifically? Well. Excuse me. It began with me with a movie that I did with Robert Altman I made a Vietnam movie with him. Called called streamers. Okay. Man It was a big Mac check in everything. You need to get some water is everything. Okay. All right I'm fine I. Just put some coffee so I'll be able to smooth my throat up. I don't have the co don't have the Kobe. Thank goodness ago. It's just a cost. Yeah I forgot what I was talking about vision quest is certainly helped but streamers the Robert Altman movie. We won the prize the best actor prize at the Venice Film Festival. So that that that really set me up and that setup vision quest and then I auditioned for Birdie that Alan Parker and that won the prize at the Cannes Film Festival and I did a movie with. Diane Keaton who was hot as a pistol and and Mel Gibson where I played his brother called. Mrs Selfo and you know and then I heard about full metal jacket quite by accident from Val. Kilmer Val kilmer thought that I had got the part in the movie and I said no I didn't audition. You had to send a video vhs tape to Stanley Kubrick to audition to be in the movie and I didn't do that and but the fact that he said that I was playing the part I called Warner brothers and asked him could they send vision quest? The Stanley Kubrick I knew he was making his movie with. With Warner Brothers and then Alan. Parker was editing Birdie in London and I asked Alan would he sends Mr Kubrick a scene from the movie is senior to and and then I don't know how weeks later I received a script through the mail slot at my house. It didn't go through the agent. It didn't go through the proper channels it came from you directly from Stanley Kubrick and this just to show you his humility and. Give you a window into his personality. He said hello my name is Stanley Kubrick I'm a film director This is a screenplay that I'm working on I. Wonder if you'd consider being in my film so I mean. He's Stanley Kubrick and to have that kind of humility. Introduce himself as a filmmaker. Film director. Keep in mind Kubrick's nineteen eighty seven Vietnam War classic film full Metal Jacket, it's available in four K resolution for the first time you mentioned Mrs. So full and Birdie a among Mel Gibson and Nicholas Cage. WHO's more unique. Definitely, Nicholas Cage Yeah. There's Yeah Nick Nick I. think that's one of his most beautiful performances in Birdie. He's there's there's no silliness or weirdness in you know he's not in any cockroaches or jumping on any tables but yeah nick, Nick went to school with Jim Carey and Crispin Glover. and. That that the teacher I'm told us to have them compete against each other about who could be the weirdest and and the most extreme. So q matching competing with Jim Carey and Crispin Glover is wonderful actor and quite mad so Those those those. I would like to see a movie with those three together although I just saw peggy sue got married again I forgot Jim Carey was in it and Nick Cage and Jim Carey are high school mates and they're in a band together singing. Not What Matt, you have to give us your strangest Nick Gage. I don't know who sounds worse. You're him I I mean Modine gave me whatever he has mad. You have a strange nick cage story. When we were filming at the slaughterhouse in Birdie. No that's What I tell you know I was driving down the road with them. We were we were in beverly, hills, California and he was. And he was looking at he was driving and there was a car full of girls that were over my right shoulder. So he was looking at me and goes, Oh, hold on a second and he looked at the girls and waved at them gave them are very flirtatious look and the girls kind of screened and drove away they were horrified by by. Any any looked at me and he goes. It's not working. I. It was he was like. A sixty year old perverted man looking at young girls and. Girls Tro box. You know what? These Nicholas Cage with the Bulbous is looking at them looking all crazy turning on his ego maniacal charm but I want the Nicholas Cage Slaughterhouse. Story. Yeah. The slaughterhouse that was just we were covered it. It was horrible. They was dead horses real dead horses I don't think they'd ever be allowed to do that today dogs. I mean it was horrendous and we were we had that stink honest and Alan Parker wanted to run down the road and they filled up this puddle. With water and it was it was it was horrible and we got filthy dirty and Stinky with all this death of animals on us and we both had p. m. since we were soaking wet, we're just both of us. Stood there and laughed at each other and peed our pants is growing as. Not really good story. Probably just horrified. Dead animals all over the. Way that we could get away with that today Matthew Modine with us here on ESPN radio full metal jacket is available now on four K ultra hd blue, Combo pack, and digital check it out. So, Dan mentioned earlier that you turn down Tom Cruise's role at topgun Charlie Sheen's part in wall. Street. And even Michael J. Fox's part Mardi MC fly back to the future which one of those guys owes you the most money well, first of I could never imagine anybody but Michael Fox and in as Mardi MC fly. He just nailed it. He was brilliant. Tob Probably Tom Cruise. Yeah Yeah Tom Cruise Yeah Yeah. But. You were doing full metal jacket at the time, right? Well, I just come back from the Berlin Film Festival, where I took that movie that Mrs Soulful, the Diane Keaton and Mel Gibson, where they couldn't go to Berlin because they had they were working or something. So they invited me to take you know to go represent the movie at the Berlin. Festival in and of course then. The Wall was still up and they said, would you like? To go to East Berlin I can't go to East Berlin I'm an American and they said, no, you can't because you are an. American. So I saw yeah, I wanna go to East Berlin so I went across checkpoint Charlie and I grew up on the side of the Mississippi and Education. System is is is quite different than the people that you meet on East Coast and or the east side of the Mississippi That's a generalization 'cause. Certainly, there are pockets that are very much like the west side of the Mississippi, but I had I had not been told or taught in school about the Russia's participation in the Second World War and while I was in east. Berlin I met Russian soldiers that were different than my brother who went to Vietnam. I smoked at the time I gave them my cigarettes. They gave me pins from their uniform and they were just kids they were. There were just just kids and just like me and they could speak English. I couldn't speak Russian and And I met him at this monument for the millions of Russians who had died fighting the Nazis in the Second World War and I went wait a minute. We were allies fighting a common enemy and that just wasn't taught in school and it it really. You know there are things that happen in your life that You know if you imagine yourself like a horse with blinders on and you see things a certain way and then you get ex- exposed to experience different things than those blinders get opened a little bit and you you start to see people in different ways and and and understand the world in a different way and that happened to me while I was in East Berlin met these These these these kids that where are perceived enemies with that I've been told you know the Russians, we're to destroy the world and and you know it it. It's there there are people there are government that they cause problems but people are people and and generally they want to be appreciated and loved and take care of their families and it just to bring this back to Kubrick I. think that we find this in all of Stanley Kubrick's films that. Whether it's Dr Strangelove Paths of glory or two, thousand, one space odyssey that that when early man learn to pick up a bone and beep somebody's head in in and overpower them that you know. That's that's part of our evolution, and so long as we use violence to solve our problems until we can find a peaceful solution to our problems to sit down at a table and negotiate and find ways of of finding peaceful resolution to the differences that we have in the problems that we have our destiny is to be like slim pickens in two I mean Dr Strangelove writing the nuclear bomb down and you know ending the world nuclear annihilation that we that. This this is the thing about full metal jacket is that I think that the reason that the people have a deeper understanding to this film than say platoon or boys and company C or the deer hunter or any number of movies that are made about war is that this is not about a particular war. This is about what what happens when we take young people who've been taught their whole. Life to to respect one another you know and thou shalt not kill, and then we put them in boot camp where we have to reprogram them to kill their enemy and work together as a unit you know with a chain of command and to pull the trigger on their enemy before the enemy pulls the trigger on them that this that that it it it touches people on a deeper psychological web. Plane because it's not really about Vietnam, it's about it's about human behavior. Again and wh what happens. And what happens to somebody when they have to stand above a young. Girl who's begging him to enter life and and the psychological scars that that soldier every soldier who's ever fought a war has to carry with them the rest of their life Matthew Again, I want to tell the audience full metal jacket is available. Now Four K. Resolution for the first time it is a war movie classic I've got to. Let you go because you're people are saying that you're out of time but I can't let you end on dead horses and war and somebody beaten to death by phone. So give me a good any given Sunday story before you get out of here because you're the doctor, the immoral doctor in any given Sunday and I gotta get you out of here. But what I need something a little lighter here at the end. I get I get you Lawrence Taylor he said Lawrence Taylor. The great of Middle Linebacker for the New York giants said you know Matthew I never went looking for trouble, but it always found me. That's Always did thank you matthew. We appreciate your time again. Full Metal Jacket available now four K. Resolution for the first time. Thank you sir. Thank you. Thank you matt.

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Jameis returns, ND v. Michigan, Roughing rule saga

Speak For Yourself with Cowherd & Whitlock

45:14 min | 3 years ago

Jameis returns, ND v. Michigan, Roughing rule saga

"All right. Well, it was bigger yourself. I'm Jason Whitlock. That's Marcellus Wiley, that dude coming up. I'll tell you why have no problem with Jason Witten bringing politics into the broadcast booth. And I've got another installment of debt dues dues, we start every show with a Whitlam's which got today. I got a wolf Marcel. I don't think you've ever seen my wolf our. You're about to see it today. I'm the wolf of Winston street. I'm caving up for Tampa Bay quarterback Jameis Winston who's three-game suspension into this week and is now in a QB controversy with journeyman Ryan Fitzpatrick I wanna tell Tampa ahead coach, Dirk, cutter what to do by channeling. My inner Leonardo to Capri. Oh, and one of my favorite movie scenes of all time from the wolf of Wall Street, are you see that football there? I'm gonna let you in on a little secret about those footballs. They're not gonna throw themselves accurately without the right quarterback. They're worthless. They need a highly trained quarterback eighty callous. No. You something about who tell you a little something. There's no nobility and losing. I've been a winner and a loser, and I choose winning every freaking. Because at least there's a winter I saw on game day. I doubt in a custom-made, Tom Ford suit where Jeb gyp ring. They won watching this thing. I'm superficial, low character. You don't get a job coaching peewee football because that's where frigging the long. This is the NFL. And before you depart my locker room full of winners, I want you Dirk cutter. Take a look around your locker room gone. Take a good look because if you mess up this decision sometime in the not so distant future, you're gonna walk into a football stadium with a coordinators playbook and an NFL head coach is going to walk in with you with a brand new quarterback. Porsche, who looked plays like Jameis Winston, big lap shoeless cannon foreign on I. And who are you going to be standing next to Ryan Fitzpatrick disgusting. I league what a hundred days, a razor stubble chin do you're going to be standing next to. So you listen to me and you listen. Well, are you tired of hearing about Jiu breeze and the New Orleans Saints entire good pick up the phone and call James Winston, you tired of seeing Cam Newton's superman celebration. The full and call James Winston to Matt Ryan and the falcons, the buccaneers, a worthless Luas. Pick up the phone call James Wisden. I want you to deal with your loss on Monday night football, but tended to Jayme as. Most talented quarterbacks, the guy won the Heisman Trophy national championship, and Florida's date, the guy who told the box, it's okay to fire lovey Smith and make you the head coach. When it happens Jamie's I need you to be ferocious. You'll be relentless. Quarterback. Back in the bed. The wolf loose today Marcel the wolf out. All that talk, but I'm with marshawn Lynch. I'm about that action boss. You got me hype, you smoke it. Well, you got the fire book, riot fix, Patrick, has this team this team, and you know how you got him. He didn't have to go out there and say, I. I. To go out there and make them eat ws. He went out there and gave him ws and the last twelve games. They've had a split sample size, six games for James suspension in all injuries. And six gave Ryan Fitzpatrick and sub duty where I Fitzpatrick has won four DOE six. James has won one of those six with the same team. What to say personnel. And it's interesting when you talk about who has this team, I tell you that Ryan Patrick is this team and it's not just because the Sean Jackson after week one came out and said, hey, I'm going with fits at the week. Two I'm going with fits is because he speaking for the entire team. The mass is I've been in that same position rookie season that same ju- breeze and he was our quarterback. Doug Flutie was on a roster and I came onto media and you're never supposed to do this, pick a teammate, and I came out and said, it should be Doug Flutie seven, seven, seven, and I wasn't speaking for just me. I was speaking for all the guy. Guys in there who said, Marcellus, you're above reproach, they won't cut you. They love you speak for us. We want Doug Flutie not drew Brees. So Sean Jackson comes out and says, he wants Fitzpatrick. He speaking for fifty. One other dudes in their locker room as well. So I gotta respect what he did and what is happening in Tampa. It's fist Patrick's team. Listen, I what dishonor Jackson said to stay with the hot hand and the hand cooled off on Monday night folks in the first half it cooled off for the game. It was winning time and he had a final dry that could have won the game, and he blew it. He didn't complete any of those passes, but I wanna stay with to Capri. Oh, Jordan, Belfour of from walls. You killed it. You know, I just wanna stay there because you saw the movie Korea? Yeah. Awesome. Movie penny stocks where Jordan Belfour got his start, and that's what James Winston is. He's a penny stock. He's a blue chip stock that has been devalued, depending. I get that his stock is low. He's screwed up. I get all those testicle deals about who's won and who hasn't when they've been the starting quarterback, I get it. But at the end of the day, if you look deep at James Winston, he's Heisman Trophy winner. For reason, he's a national champion in college for a reason he's the number one overall pick in the draft for a reason. There's a reason why does not just as intellect, why Ryan Fitzpatrick played at an Ivy league school. There's a reason why he's a journeyman quarterback. Again, he's he's a great fire extinguisher open in when there's an emergency break the glass, bring him out, but eventually affiars thing, which is not the fire department and it runs out and you gotta bring a real fireman and to do and Jameis Winston, even though he hasn't shown it fully yet he is a real firemen and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to me. I look at all the talent around him. They have to max out this. A year and the only way to max out with James Winston because at some point, Ryan Fitzpatrick is going to be that dude, you saw on the first half against Pittsburgh and he's going to be that dude, you saw at the end of the game against Pittsburgh. He's not championship caliber. Okay. You got one more Ivy league shot to doing this show, which keeps you diving leagues in NFL that ain't gonna happen. It's funny, you call him the fire man, and that means he's gonna put out the fire and he is put out the fire, which is the hot start by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to one, which I don't think they would have been to one with this level confidence if James was starting. But let's talk about confidence because you say, hey, former number one overall pick, hey, you're Heisman Trophy winner, and you're the franchise quarterback. You should be confident listened to Jameis Winston this to this sound of him, and it sounds like a guy who's already defeat it in this moment. This assignment like we're having a lot of success and I want to continue and I knew it will. I'm here to systematised well, possibly. Can you know not my passion for this team. I love this team goes beyond where I'm out there doing the football team or not. From score to assist quick. Facilitator because you know why I gotta standard support Dr cutter record and say the quarterbacks, no, who's the starter? And if you're going to name the starter before you see a practice week from James who's been out for three weeks, you know who that guy is is Fitzpatrick. You don't name James to start until you see him, at least in practice. And the reason he is sounding defeated in that moment because he knows he's not the start. I didn't hear lack of confidence. I heard some humility, much-needed humility, and a guy in the right mentality, and a guy who's following orders in my belief in the look, they're cutter can make the wrong decision to stick with Fitzpatrick. I hope and pray. He does it. But if I'm James Winston, I'm not tipping the cards one way or the other. And so to me, he's being very coach -able here, not showing his card standing at humble spirit and in terms of what you've seen and again, I know this was a month ago. James Winston was the best quarterback in the NFL during the preseason. Oh, we count now he was okay. So to me, he was right on schedule for what I saw at the end of the season last year, agai plan at a very high level agai very competitive agai that was blossoming into why they drafted him number one overall. And so I just, I think James is handled every sponsor perfectly. I think he's hiding his cars because Dirk cutters trying to hide his cards. But I think if Dirk cutter goals, listen, there's no downside benching Ryan Fitzpatrick now. 'cause you can bring him back in. He's at anytime James Winston, you have to put him out there and really go forward in terms of this is the year for dirt cutter in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They're in the most competitive best quarterback division in football. You can't take on drew Brees Matt, Ryan, Cam Newton, particularly this Cam Newton with Ryan Fitzpatrick. You have to send your best and brightest out there and is James wins, look, I mean, James harden his cars in part because it's cars better than Ryan Fitzpatrick's Ryan saying, I play this game face up. Let's go, you would see my car. It's here we go. What are those cards? He's NFL record for I three consecutive four hundred yard passing games. He's a second all time. NFL history to first regains passing yards. And he's like, I'm doing historical stuff. I'm not doing franchise quarterback stuff. I'm doing all time franchise quarterback stuff in terms of numbers performance. And when I had that locker room would've spokesman Sean Jackson coming up to support me. I've heard one player yet say, is this James, his job either one player yet. And that speaks volumes because I've been there before and when people don't step up for you is because they're not supporting, you lost my voice. I can't. Belford took me out of stick around later in the show we'll give you are proven ratings for James Winston. Here's where they were before. The season started ourselves had him as wolf layer. I had him on the scout team, say where he ends up. We'll get right back to the show, but I, I wanted to tell our listeners about hellofresh hellofresh a meal kit delivery service shops plans and delivers step by step recipes in pre measured ingredients. So you can just cook eat and enjoy. Why do I recommend hellofresh? There's something for everyone. Three plans to choose from classic veggie and family. Each boxes made up a fresh responsibly obtained ingredients from carefully selected farms and high rated trusted sources, make family dinners. Fuss-free with hellofresh picky eater, kid tested and approved family plan recipes rediscover the excitement of cooking. Look forward to your hellofresh delivery, knowing dinner, just got that much easier. 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We'll get into the NFL's roughing the passer controversy in a minute, but first you all know Marcella ze DAT do now. He's going to show us the best place from big guys around football. It's time for debt dudes dudes ourselves, which got got the best three plays out there from the big news of front does is in the trenches, they don't get enough love and attention. So we give love that dues dues. This start off what Arthur that dues do. Cow Williams, Buffalo Bills, go bills mafia. See Cal Williams off. The ball quickly gets to Kirk. Cousins runs right through Vikings lime and Mike Rimmer for the sack. Well, let's see right here. Look at the levers you see rumors you think that's a good bench, press five hundred Pounder, right? Got his arms extended everything, but because he's overextended that five hundred pounds quickly drops down to no wait at all. And look at car Williams. He realizes that in the moment slapsti- Rhys off them. Get skinny in the hole and gets to Kirk cousins right there. The Carlson, the limo for that. That was easy. Pickets number two debt dues dues go to Miami with the dolphins, Vincent Taylor. This is tailor made right here against the raiders. You see them go. Men gave Jackson guests the sec, but let's see how you get some first of all you gotta sit them down and when you sit them down Pete nice, gentleman, cinnamon the chair as you sit them into look at that anchor foot. Oh my God, Jason Whitlock at boss state right there. Next thing, you know when you got them sitting down and he's overextended. What are you hit them with the grab rip Sipple collegiate move and look at that angle right there. The protracted has to come out because that's where you get your explosion. And that's how you turn the corner with those angles, get to their car. Another sec rape relief, surprise it into a flag for hitting the quarterback in the NFL talking to you right now. And the number one debt do dude of the week is met I, this is Greek God of bull rush right here. You can see him gets. Rogers who had a more you watch this, he tries to Reggie White hump move. Pulls it off somewhat, but look at that angle hunter degrees and now Brian Balogh. Once again, second time he's been on that news. The victim gets caught on skates, and once you're skates is time to break out the Billy James Tana moonwalk brother because he's going to have you going back because he now he's in your chest and you are going backwards. Look at that lack of power in that position tying to send them to the scar because he's toast, get him about of here, please. Thank you very much. He's going don't how're position right back to air Rogers. A-rod like my knee can get him off of me please. And once again, a sack on a play great playboy met Greek God a bull run once again. No offense of Lyman highlighted, come on, man. You got to. I'm trying to talk to production gonna get this. That was awesome ourselves from some big dues to some big stories. Let's start the NFL where reportedly several members of the competition committee are uncomfortable with the show. Sharp increase in roughing. The passer calls this season which have more than doubled from this point last year and the members of the committee aren't the only ones unhappy with the rule with people around the league, expressing frustration, including Cowboys owner, Jerry Jones, the way actually our future is a real serious emphasis on of youth football, amateur football, reflected passcode level, and I see a collegiate game that certainly has a lot of finesse in it, but is a great game and makes these kinds of adjustments we're talking about. But when it comes to pro football to use a boxing term, that's when you put the six ounce club. So you don't rob fight with those ten outs are you don't fight with those years. Everybody's being really paid to go out and incur those type situations that have more risk at all right myself. I keep it real with you. Everybody I know loves you on the show. They think my mother loves you more than she loves me, but they all have one question. What the hell is Marcel is talking about defending this rougher the passing stuff. Right. Please explain yourself. How in the hell are you good with all these roughing, everybody else ancient, but you. I'll love it. I'm protecting investment. I, this is not an allegation. Is Jerry Jones. Try to go with the boxing analogy to a boxing match because in the box of match, you're paying import to see him get knocked out whether you love him or whether you hate him, whoever that boxer may be. That's part of that game, but we're not paying to see them not to starting quarterback. I'll give you a case, appoint. Here's an example this week. I'm going to the chargers forty Niners game. Let's just say that I was bringing a few on three tickets. Go ahead. Okay, paying. But my friends were also going on those same free tickets and guess what they said with free tickets in hand. Oh man, Jimmy, geez, not playing. We still going to the game. That's my point. So you gotta protect that guy in the situation. You're making a mistake to everyone's making hope your mom and not making. 'cause I love your mama. 'cause. But don't conflict the fact that they have a new rule and that they're getting this new rule enforce correctly. Every single time, it's a judgment rule, and every judgment rule weather's PR, whether it's holding when there's a point of emphasis. First thing we do is over correct. We do it too much. We call it too often, and then we get to a place of common sense because we have a body of work, and we realize this is where we want to set a win, be patient everyone. This rule is to protect the stars of the game, this ruse to protect integrity of the game and terms of safety and promoting that at the lower levels to the NFL level. I am in full support, but I'm also patient which are not. It's not about this is intolerable in unacceptable. As a fan I'm achieves fan. You mentioned Jimmy g. and when Jimmy g. chose not to dip out of bounds and decided to be an idiot and take on a defensive player. You know what the chief's fan. He did. Good job. Jimmy. G. see you later nine on goodbye. It out of the game game over. I was happy about it. I'm crying no tears for San Francisco because Jimmy g. was in idiot. I wanna see quarterbacks play football and in football, it's a contact sport they need to be contacted. That's surviving. That context is I'm a huge Phil Simms fainting and he's not in the hall of fame, but I love the way he played because he was standing the pocket and take that hit to deliver the football, Tom Brady. That's what made him so great early in his career. There's a part they're taking that out of the game is like anybody. Now compla- quarterback. Anybody can be the tough guy, and I just don't like it just it's not football. Okay. So Jason Wheelock was in on the Matt Cassel Levin win season that didn't go to the playoffs was like, oh, yeah, top-rated down. I'm fine with that. You to be chiefs fan. I could be charges fan, but we. You have to voltron and be NFL fan. And if you're the Commissioner or your own executive committee, or you're on the rules committee, you have to look out for the greater good, which is all teams, which is Jimmy g. showing up in LA and he's own. The silence is not good for the game, and you have to respect even that protecting investment quarterbacks. They don't even practice again, but their blood is no redder than mine. Andy defensive players, what they get more protection and air by else is just to an extreme, nobody agrees what you must. Practice. We're originally for reason as of now. Nothing has been done about the rule, which was obviously obvious in Monday night's Steelers, Buchan ears game when the flags were flying to the tune of four. Roughing. The passer calls during the broadcast the Monday night crew couldn't ignore the issue and Jason Witten actually steered the conversation in a political direction. Just gone too far with that rule, you know, and I felt that I knew they wanna make it about the health and safety and protect these quarterbacks. It just seems like we just went a little bit to wingham that you know with our trying to protect it. Because as we said, only players frustrated, but the coaches, they don't know how to coach this. That's been have challenge with this war. Ourselves, you. You have a problem with Jason, bringing politics into this discussion. I do look one one out. Don't care if you're on the left. I don't care if you're on the right. Are you in the middle of your living room in the middle of that television screen watching football? Yes. And if you are, you don't want this all of a sudden being part of the conversation when you're watching just some good football. So just a blanket statement, I wanna go there, but to me is different. When you look at Jason Witten and his misstep, I don't even think that Jason Witten truthfully went all the way in terms of left wing men. Exactly what it sounded like. I think this was just a miscue blown out of proportion by guy who's on the big platform who may have misspoke. So I don't wanna put words in his mouth, but the left wing part if he did want to test too little too much for me when I'm watching football didn't bother me because I heard his comments and hear his comments as him saying, look, there's a war on football, and we're trying to change. Change the game of football, and I believe Jason's trying to say in an unhealthy way and football. And again, I think what Jason was saying, football's not a safe space this for the people that want to be safe. Don't step on the football field and less. Don't try to please the people that think football's too violent. It's tactically masculine, let's make it less masculine. Let's make it so everybody can play, and it's just not a gang for everybody. It's for people that are little bit touched and a little bit crazy. And just. This is where they work out their physical frustrations. And so I don't have a problem with at all because I hear his comments as ringing true to me, there is an whether we like it or not. The left liberals don't like football as much as conservative people are just are just even traditional sports fans, and there's an attack on football, and I think it bothers Jason Witten and he snuck it in there is the Monday night booth. The place to do it, maybe not a, maybe getting. There's a cop fares there. He's already written a terrific column about social media and things like that. If he wants to touch on it, right it in a column, so you can be heard in context during the middle of game. That's probably a little bit too much, but I don't have a real problem with. I got a problem with it. One. Lazlo generalization just say, left Worrell football. Let me use this platform ESPN with Jimmy Petar already went on record ahead of PSA. Politics is out of our company and then we can see him saying moo making moves like no national anthem, broadcast, okay, Djamil hill and her by out you can read into that what you want, but they distance themselves in politics. Then on the biggest stage on their biggest product, you have Jason Witten taking a political stance that needs to be addressed. And I'm sure it is behind closed doors. This is not a world football. This is this Jason Witten, a rookie announcer having a war on words and not knowing exactly what to say and I Jay, but we're going to get there is a warm football Marcel. Okay. There could be a warm football. This was not. This is Jason Witten. A rookie announcer who Lenora but but I, yes, yes, the rookie out to making a mistake. They can give them a pass on that. But I think where he's. Coming from is this whole movement to make football safe is just silly. And again, I get we've gone too far with it. I don't want to say. You can still play on two people still don't get knocked out as safe as you make about this. Imagine that you know PM version of football where it is what you say is the safest place possible. It's still hasn't as health. Jerry Jones said. I thought expertly football is about the six ounce gloves. Don't put boxers. I don't see Mike Tyson fighting in ten, twelve ounce gloves. I wanna seem in six gloves, knocking somebody out. That's what I pay my money to go. See. And when I go see football, I wanna see, quarterbacks get touched and Jason witnesses, right? We've got this a stereo about concussions and no other sports kids analyzed like football, and so we've gone, we've gone to the extreme of, let's we gotta put. We gotta lay quarterbacks down the great mean about Landa, quarterback, and kissing him on the four here we've just gone to. That's the next step. You don't kiss him on the forehead. It doesn't count. Support for speak for yourself, comes from our friends at rocket mortgage by Quicken Loans America's premier home purchase Lindor. Let's talk about buying a home. It can be one of the most important purchases you'll ever make, but today's lecture, luxury interest rates can leave you with unexpected higher payments, which can turn a great experience into an anxious one. That's why Quicken Loans created their exclusive power buying process. Here's how it works. They check your income assets and credit to give you a verified approval. 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Let's to college football where dabbles weenies attempt to juggle. Two quarterbacks has an exactly worked out after Daboh demoted Kelly Bryant and named true freshman, Trevor Lawrence, the starter Brian announced that he would transfer saying the move was a slap in the face. Meanwhile at Alabama, Jalen hurts decided to stay with the crimson tide. Despite his diminished role, Joe. Who made that better decision here? Bryant or hurt? I, it's really tough to compare them because there are such different situations you might think, oh, like what in the world do you mean because it looks exactly the same? No, it's so different. And the reason is is because Kelly Brian's in his final year of eligibility. If he plays one more snap in the fifth game, his football life ends at the end of this season. And so I got a credit debo Sweeney a lot for making this decision now and affording Kelly Bryant, the opportunity to go and transfer and to save any long gate, his football life because now he can graduate, he'll transfer without penalty. And he still has. One year of eligibility, whereas Jalen her test two years of eligibility. So even if he is used the rest of the season and uses one of those years of eligibility up, he graduates in December and if he wants to, he can still transfer an have a year somewhere else to play. So that's why I thought the sense of urgency was there for Kelly Bryant and for Daboh Sweeney, and I thought they all handled it well, outside of the fact that he said it was a slap in the face. I just don't agree with that. I don't think he did anything to lose the position. It was more Trevor Lawrence doing things in particular from Dr officiency standpoint to gain the position. But this is the right thing to do. I think for Kelly sake for Davos everybody's, I think everyone handled this the right way. Hold on Joel, who made the better decision who made a better decision? I would say Jalen hurts is interesting because Kelly Bryant and his decision was a conventional decision, hey, to urgency, is there if I play one more snap, I lose my eligibility basically being on the bench as a sub. So what do I do? Because I can be. NFL prospect, maybe even at the same position, I will go somewhere else and put another body of work together. Respect that that's conventional though what's nuanced is Jalen hurts did when his father comes out and says he will be the biggest college free agent if he's not a starter, and then he's realized that he's not a starter and he says, you know, what would all the criticism that came my way because I don't look like the traditional NFL quarterback prospect. Let me hide behind two things. One is my resume, twenty six and two as a starter to national championship games. One championship and I'm the Alabama. He knows that if he steps out and go somewhere else and put together another body work, they won't be successful. It won't be as good, and then all the criticism avalanche on him as a prospect, high behind, Alabama, say, if you guys draft me or just gimme in the camp unleash me. And to me, that's the better decision. I'm gonna go with Jalen hurts for a different reason. And I think both guys may. Great decisions. I love Jalen hearses decision because I see it as self awareness in terms of, I'm not a pro prospect. I don't need to go one out and get on the field someplace else immediately. I love this play. I think this kid will be beloved in Alabama and the university of Alabama and the people our Bama he can do whatever he, he can write his own to be governor Monday. He could be he get right in line and potentially ten years from now be the head coach at Alabama or somewhere in college. Football, I love this decision for a kid who's not an NFL quarterback. This is a great place sticking with a great university, a great program that I think will take care of him moving forward for Kelly Bryant. I think he made the right decision. I'm gonna give Jalen little bit more credit the right decision. Kelly blinds still sees himself as a pro prospect, and he wants to go get on the field and protect his pro future. As soon as pot, he can't accept Trevor Lawrence beating him out. He's. Gotta go play somewhere soon as possible and continue his pursuit of being an NFL how you support Jalen hurts and this decision. But when we sit on the pro level with Nick foles to me, they're the same thing. He pulled a Nick foles. You criticize it kill amateur versus okay, but he's least Nick foles has money in the Bank while remained taking away your money and your. Pretend I do think Jalen is having his cake and eating it too, and there's nothing wrong with that. He can be a part of a championship team this year. Still graduate still transfers still get a year of eligibility again, very different situations. So the story is not over so I don't want to necessarily praise Jalen hurts for staying. He might not stay. I mean, that's he's this year and helps them win a national championship. Joel, his start in Alabama just contains derive. I don't think there's a bad decision for him. I really don't this transition to Michigan and Notre Dame in talk about after week. One. A lot of people said Michigan season was over seven point loss to Notre Dame. But right now looking at the two teams, the question for you Joe's. Who's the better team is Michigan or is another day? Well, before last week after I would've said it was Michigan because what they had put together post the Notre Dame game was much more impressive than what Notre Dame was doing. Intil Brian Kelly showed some big guts, replace the starting quarterback and win with Ian book. So now Ian book comes into Notre Dame. They throw fifty burger out there against Wake Forest fifty, three points. They hadn't scored over twenty four and the previous three games. So now it's a little bit more of a tossup. I'm gonna lean Michigan even though they lost the game for two really important reasons. I think they're better at quarterback than Notre Dame is, and they're better on the defensive side and that will prove it self out over the course of time. Remember now they didn't have shape Patterson eligible. If you will for a long period of time before that game. I think they got caught didn't play their best defensively gave up a couple of big touchdowns in the first quarter. I still think Michigan is the better team of the to know. That sounds crazy, but they are Joel, I'm about to demonstrates you. I am via thorny on college football and have been for twenty. Plus years. This is because I'm willing to do this. Jim Harbaugh is starting to earn my respect. All right. This guy, this team is starting to play with that edge yet. I've been wanting to see from day one. I love the way Michigan's plan. I, it's blows my month ago. I would have thought an Notre Dame. This quarterback moves tremendous your. I thought they were gonna get beat by wake force that they kept playing the way they work. And so not Dame looks really good, but I think Michigan looks better. They're playing with a physicality. They've got their running game going. Obviously their quarterback is much better. This is the Jim Harbaugh I've been waiting to see, I wanna see take out Michigan state, and then I think that Michigan Ohio state game should be damn near college, Super Bowl. I think there's there's just a handful of teams that can honestly say they control their own destiny towards the playoff in their own hands. I think Michigan still one of those teams, they've got enough of those resume builders on their schedule left, like Wisconsin, Penn State. Michigan state Ohio State if they were to take care of business and the way that they're playing they might they would find themselves in the playoff? Yeah. So this is not where he won the shape Patterson, as you said, you got better every week every week gotten better. It was a conservative game plan week one. You look at Michigan and they call it. Battle. Rhythm is interesting how they liked to build on the success of every single week. They didn't see that last year. They didn't have that complexion. Last year, that physicality, you talk about you gotta go back to twenty sixteen when Harbaugh saw that with this team, he says, he sees it now, but they need to tougher opponents, which are coming. And then all the sudden that confidence were brew to the top. But right now they're approaching planet optimal level. I look there to edge rushers and Devin Bush. And then when I look across at Ohio State and they got the problem with Bosa that makes a huge difference. If he comes back will really be able to play at that super high level, love the way Michigan's plan. Hope I don't have to change course anymore. I'm taking this all in Michigan love the way our falls. This is what I'm expecting from day one. All right. Thank you. Joe. Bet. We're joined now by a couple of Steelers, legends Rod, Woodson, and James Harrison. Let's move to the Steelers who got their first win of the year Monday night after tumultuous first couple of weeks. It's all some bad play on the field and a lot of noise off it. But after the game, big bend said the teams, biggest issue was actually people on the outside the locker room blowing all the drama out of proportion. Oh. Expecting big. Video below it out of proportion. I'm going gonna blow it out of proportion and say, look, they got lucky Monday night. Ryan Fitzpatrick had a chance to put them to sleep after being up thirty two teen. He had a final drive, could cost them their game. They would've blown a twenty point lead, and we would still be sitting here talking about Mike Tomlin and all the chaos. I'm not sure the steel drought, a hot water yet I disagree with that. That's a collegiate mindset. When you go out there and say, oh, how much did we win by? But in the pros, we don't add up the scores just a wins, you know? So if I'm on that plane ride back home or we smiling or is coach while and coaching while because he's happy, we wound, that's all that matters. We'll get back and regroup. Every team has shoes. You know, in for some reason this year, the Pittsburgh Steelers has more issue's specially guys outside of football, the penalties on the field. But remember when Seattle won the Super Bowl, they were the most penalized team football and own thing that disappoints me right now for the football team, and it's not about all the issues. It's their defensive play. This often to score points. I'm, this is not the this is not the Pittsburgh Steeler defense that I know because they're giving way too many big plays. I'm eating you look at it. You got over twenty big plays in passing fifteen of those in the air in three games. That's a lot of that's five game that way. If you wanna win, that's way too many. So the passers has to get there. But the back end secondary has to become, they have to be better. They got a solidify everything that pre snap communication has to increase. I don't see anybody talking to other hand signals guys are wide open fields because guys are playing together. So if they get that together. The office is going to be okay. Yeah, I have. Like I said, I haven't lost any confidence in specially that they've taken the step in the right direction. A win is a win. Don't matter how you do it as long as they got big being. They got AB in office line is doing what they need to do. I have confidence in the defense will eventually come around. I feel like they'll get that together to back in to get in contact with the front end. And then they need to get the pressure at the times when they're covering. So they could get the Saxon when they're not getting the pressure, they need to be in better coverage. At those times, everything needs to flow one and one. So I have still, I still have confidence that they'll make it a long way into the playoff. Everybody's ignoring in praising the offense. They didn't score after halftime. They didn't. It was thirty two. It has do more. So at the end and extend the play, Ben would been, does he stinted the play for a first down? Yeah, got still plays when they had to. They want off at the side of it. They thing about you say, base court thirty points in a half. That's a lot. First of all thirty points in the hole. Game is a lot of points. If you can't win a football game, when you're often scores thirty points, even though they gave up seventeen long was a pick six that the office didn't score dolphin scored that was defense chip in. No, I get the offense. Scored twenty four points. None after halftime. I'm not sure if the problems of Ryan the problems are fixed trae what is the problem? Because to. Two point thirty points at the half, and then you're almost in position to lose that game. If the Sean Jackson's punt returns, not callback, whoa. What's that game look like a Cleveland week one week one. They were up twenty one seven. They Cleveland climb back today game end up with a tie. What is that about this teams? Whether it's their mental makeup or their plan x.. Finishing not finish. Right. Ain't right. It comes down to to finish, and I don't know if it's the players themselves just having lax and getting up by so many points. And you know thinking that it's going to flow through the same way in the second half that ship question because the leaders of the teeth say, hey, man is four quarters. This isn't a young team. Yeah, but it is led. It is led by the players and the players on the sideline half to come together, especially on the defense. I and I keep saying I keep going back to defense because offensively they're scoring points even though they didn't score in a second hand on the Tampa Bay game. I get that defensively. They have to come together because if they come together, they can go a long way because it's often score any defense in the National Football League. They got playmakers across the board. I'm gonna put you on the spot you Steve guys. Look, the knock on Tomlin is that he'd coaches immaturity, and what would describe a team? The can't finish is immature and I pay and this is a veteran team. This isn't a bunch of young guys been AB. Judas been around a little bit now to the guys on a defensive side. He's still young, but this is to me, this team should be more mature than what I see on the field with all the penalties and not closing out. Well, that's something that, yeah, I would. I would lean towards, you know, maybe it's something that he needs to be more assertive with as far as how he handles those situations when they happen and how he deals with the discipline of it. But when it comes down to it, you know, sometimes you're going to have laws, you know. And right now the beginning of the year, these guys really haven't. They got three games. They played four preseason. Games. I think the whole time they might play what two quarters oughta gather three-quarters oughta gather. So they're really starting to free season and trying to get into the groove exactly what's going on. They gotta get a community communication to get. You know, they got new faces in there. Got new people. They got written. All right today we're talking James Winston who sees it as going about as badly as it can getting suspended in having his backup Ryan for pet. Patrick completely outshine anything. He's done the last couple years. My rating for James is way down down seventeen points. In fact, down to a thirty six. He is officially my first dumpster fire. James Safai performance drop to Levin points here availability is the most important ability. He hasn't been vailable for three weeks. He's down to a six, and then I got him down five and character all the way down to four job performance. The same, Jason Whitlock tell me how spectacular he looked into preseason don't count. Why did you use in earlier blocks in it d- accounts about what is going to have. Okay. I thought you said he was playing well enough to be a starter. He over the historical numbers of Ryan Fitzpatrick six job performance interesting, and a character. Four. I mean, I mean four. How many obligations does it need to be different convictions? Which is different than this inmate level, like four, like how did you get any lower than four eight? Go check the resume and all the, you know, I got you. Got you. Got it. You got scout team. I don't get it. He ain't a dumpster fire who is well, first of all, he's wearing his patches backup that is cost team. So he's to be xactly where he is fifty two. He's down nine look job performance. I give them a thirteen. He's down job performance. Don't forget. Now saleability Marcel. I get that. But you know what? James Winston came to a horrible team, horrible franchise. They were two and fourteen. That's why that number one overall pick, he gets there. One eighteen games laws twenty-seven, but still trying to climb a mountain. Again, you have his character, Tim Marcel got his character, Tim, because how accusations is different look crab legs. I'm not counting you count that, but if I get free stuff at school and then one day I show up and y'all didn't tell me it's not free anymore. That is you problem. That is not only I'm always going to the character still flaw because Uber incident, situations like that. I give you. Some of that authenticity is was funny though the end up the ws was he did that. I think the Sean said ou hold Ryan Fitzpatrick good. That's about quarterback. You eating w's like that. All set. I haven't down because he's not going to be the starter, but if he's not a dumpster fire, who is delta fire us to said that delta farce started which one is. We gotta go just for us. We'll be back tomorrow.

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"Standard open the house. A standard open involve welcome to highly questionable. I'm lebatardshow pablo. Tori is one of the guests. I have to introduce meenakashi. Times is the other. Let's get started with our standard open. How much praise we heap on. Meena seahawks or slowing down kyla very in his gimpy shoulder. I don't know how much of the audience knows this part of menas phantom pablo. Have you ever watched a seahawks game with mina times. Is that a an experience that you've had in your life. I've avoided deliberately. Because i know via others what that's like and it does not sound fun for anybody no it. She sounds like an insane person. Just a bundle of nerves and rex and russell wilson. Last night did what. I've become accustomed to russell. Wilson doing which is always plays these close games. Admiration is when he has these three interception games. And you'll know at the end of this nerve wracking season for a woman who is broken by this team on occasion especially because it doesn't have a pass rush but it did have one last night that they will be playing games late into the caesar were russell. Wilson will be playing a close game throwing into your end zone. No whether it's the first round the second round the last round of the playoffs. Because that's what he does. It's why he hasn't yet given this thrown to kyla murray. Who would like to take it from it. First of all neither of you are ever going to watch a seahawks game with me. Because i would prefer for you to not lose professional respect for me. Also just respect us like maybe friendship. I don't wanna alienate that. Ruin our relationship with her too. I think you as far as the actual. Yeah i tell the story now. we're already dear. We're here over story. I may have thrown a chair in the espn war room in the presence of dozens of reporters in been asked to leave during the seahawks game. Three years at baby happened to maybe anyways that to the actual matter at hand so the weirdest thing about last week with seattle was not that russell wilson through multiple interceptions. Which was yes very upsetting. It was at the scene of defense actually played pretty well against the rams. Everyone just ignored that. Because of russell wilson so i wasn't completely surprised that they looked a little bit better last night. The first time they played murray zero sacks zero hits last night three sacks eight hits yes some of it was because he was a little bit hobble. But i feel the same way about the seahawks defense that i imagine non korean parents feel about c. students when they get a b plus which is good job is just above average. That is we need out of you. The most embarrassing things mean it did just that number one referred to wherever they watch football games in bristol as the war room. Because i'm sure. I'm sure it really rise to the level of national security number two you just diminish the fact that carlos dunlap the guy the seahawks acquired to stop carlos murray landed on cuyler murray on the second drive of the game injuring his right throwing shoulder and everything from their kind of make sense. It was a close game. Seattle's defense all the credit in the world for that. But the fact that this guy. Dan who leads the nfl in yards per carry is the most threatening quarterback. You've seen this season only ran the ball five times five times right when the cardinals get less than thirty yards rushing from tyler. Murray there one eight and one so the fact that this is one of those eight kind of make sense when the guy who was extraordinarily multiple as tape grinders like to say was entirely one dimensional. Meena what he says about your team is right. It is only pass rusher way from being able to be anybody right and dunlap gave them something last. That's what you trade for some pass rush. Yes the pass rush. look decent in. that doesn't have anything to do with kyla. Murray shoulder they were in the backfield. And i'd also like to amend my previous statement. I didn't actually throw the chair. It was more like this. Oh here we go here. We go this okay. Justa saw that recently did and honestly he brings it up all the time and might be traumatized by it. Which quarterback would you rather have this weekend. Lamar jackson or ryan tannehill okay. We've got an interesting situation here because tannehill has not been the same quarterback as soon as he lost his left tackle. He was not the same quarterback and lamar jackson. Hasn't been the mvp at least in part because there are a lot of pieces around him. That are different. Aren't the same. Sometimes when you lose a really important offensive lineman. It affects the offensive play. But i do think that the questions around the jackson fair given that the expectations have gotten into a place where you're the most valuable player in the league. After six time executive of the year said you couldn't play the position. Are you going to elevate your football team. Because you're the most valuable player in the league. He can do that with just about anybody. They're still very good because they're doing it with just about anybody. But lamar jackson is a quarterback who has to be. Mvp good ryan tannehill merely has to be a quarterback wins for that team. I love the nfl because this is a plausible question what we are debating. Would you rather have lamar jackson. The guy we just said like months ago was changing the paradigm of football. We'd rather have that guy or ryan tannehill like that is like debating. Would you rather have out. Lebron james or fred vanfleet except in this case. It's a totally valid conversation. Because dan what they do against the ravens this season playing man coverage more than they ever have daring them to run the ball in ways that they were terrified to last season. All of that makes the ravens which held the ball. More than anything we've ever seen before right. Time of possession was the key to so many of their wins last season. Just mediocre their middling right now and the fact that lamar jackson tells rich. Eisen defenders no. What we're about to do before we do it. I don't know how you fix all of that in the present tests. Sorry i'm still thinking about fred vanfleet just watching this show similar being like what. The heck is like a mirror. The comparison the lebron. I was saw. He's very good of much like ryan. Tannehill i guess so. The actual question was. Who would you rather have this weekend. And that's important because football is a game of matchups. That's my nfl. Lightfoot voice you but it's so true right so ryan. Tannehill has better weapons lamar jackson in. I believe a better play. Caller in arthur smith is missing left tackle till one. That's made a big difference. Lamar jackson meanwhile lost to best offensive lineman in really lacking in the weapons department and i believe has struggled because of the play calling however the ravens defense is much better than the titans defense. And that's why. I'd rather have lamar jackson in this game. Because he gets to play the worst defense. Which is why. I think baltimore is gonna win. Are the saints making the right call by starting tastes hill over jamie's or people in the audience. I want you to look at the face of cons contract now and drink it in because she is so very excited about this story. I don't think that in the history of football you could get a more interesting storyline around the backup. Quarterbacks where we're surprised legitimately surprised that the saints have gone with a guy who hasn't done anything as a quarterback instead of a guy who just threw for five thousand yards. And i do believe that. Perhaps it is okay to say the sean payton might know something that the rest of us don't invested in this particular week against atlanta with a running game. That's hurting. Maybe he thinks that tastes them hill for this game is a better alternative but james winston i think we can all say has a resume that would be better in this circumstance. More trusted except for those interceptions. I don't know if he can cure that. It's the greatest indictment of jameis winston. It's why he's jameis. Winston that team will not abide turnovers so in some ways. This shouldn't be surprising at all. The saints paid tasted hill. Twenty one million dollars to be their backup quarterback. Sean payton talks about this man. Like he is blurb ing movie that no one else thinks is right. Like what are those like out of context christmas feel-good movie of the season but on the other hand they had the opportunity to start him last season six if they did last week and they didn't. That guys is why people are surprised because they have passed on jason hill over and over. They have passed on him more times as many times as he has passed in the nfl. I can't tell. I really truly can't tell if peyton is seriously. I think dan is onto something that it might just be about this particular game but he also might be trolling because shawn payne is the closest thing we have in the nfl to a real trouble. He actually trolled a falcons fan once on twitter. Nfl coach beatty twenty eight to three seats. Believe it when. I see it and i'll leave it at that. I do agree that the only reason to think that there is not some smokescreen element year is that. It's the falcons. And the falcons are not worthy of all of this attention with the mere fact that this is a thing that gets people. So agitated is amazing to me. Right because james winston has eleven pick sixes in his career so for those who are not counting and keeping track of these numbers thrown at you so far that has one more than the number of completions tastes on the hill has in his whole career right so the mere fact that anyone can feel like anything approaching righteous indignation about james winston is kind of amazing to me so really the question is do you believe that sean payton is in fact this offensive wizard that he has a plan coming up that he is a genius because to me as much as jameis. Winston is the red zone channel in one person as much as he is the guy who always plays as if as i always say he has both himself and the opposing defense on his fantasy right. If you believe that. Sean payton knows what he's doing. I assume us something plan that we just don't understand. But this isn't about james winston like the level of outrage in excitement in for meat to deletion like i really cannot wait for this game. It's about taste some hill. The man is an obsession for twitter. He looks for pull fans emmer. He is the guy where every time sean payton puts him in substitutes for drew brees on a snap. Go crazy is the ultimate. No no no you okay. That works player like he drives people. Bananas everything about him is perfectly crime to outrage america. Coming up next on myself. Stevie show die also had a million jokes now feel inadequate. Because we're darn yeah. I did ruin. Hi there this. Is julie foudy host of the podcast laughter permitted. And i'm here to tell you about our sponsor ally first of all if you're still stuffing financial documents into a filing cabinet. I am here to save you or perhaps you're still waiting in line at a bank. There's a smarter way. My friends do your banking online with ally anytime anywhere. The name is the mission. 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Say you'll never ever leave me from beside me. Because i want you and i need you Down for you always geeky the you love me you riding say you will never ever leave me from. This is me 'cause. I want you you down for your voice streaming online the pack. Okay what is this about the pack. All right it's not the packers right. What more happy and cheerful with me. We're gonna take twelve dogs and their partners. They'll travel the beautiful countries and compete in epoch. Challenges right loose. Ooh this is just a life. That i thought i'd never have specially with a dog. His desk friend in the whole world. Dogmas me no matter what a need to end today. She's not a winner loser. She's top dog in my book mike. She's top dog and my book. are you crying. you're crying with you. What the kind of mammals is happening. Pablo are you intrigued. I mean no for the kind of mammals that you have for mentioned also because it's called the pack. I feel like whatever the plural for a bunch of wolves is should not be the same term for a bunch of the dogs. We just saw there. That is incredibly insulting to wolf's to wolves it is a mean are you crying. Are you indeed crying as pervasive. That have nothing to do with moisture. Possibly causing by on sunday night football chiefs in radiators. That was unnecessary. I didn't need to hear from constipated producer that way. The raiders and chiefs is an interesting game though because the last time they played the raiders. Beat them beat them. Their way big plays exciting place and after the game jon gruden and his team. They took a victory lap in the bus around the stadium at arrowhead. And let's hear jon gruden here. Explain why he did that. Interest to kc in the first game was there was a victory lap book. It's not really. I mean you can find a smart aleck bus driver in kansas city. Who made some comments when we got on the bus. Maybe that's why we drove around the stadiums tick him off. You know this is ridiculous. Next question was very aggressive. Everyone's very mad. I don't it seems like a funnier story. That pablo are you intrigue. I am intrigued. Because max crosby defensive end on. The raiders was on the bus and didn't know that there was a victory lap. Taking place. Because i want to make this clear. They were on a bus. Can you take a victory lap inside of a bus just like doing a circle around a building. None of that feels particularly victorious. Even if it is technically a lap meena you intrigued by the game and also by the story. So grooten is insinuating that they circled the stadium not to taunt the cheese or celebrate their victory but to punish the bus driver by making him drive. Which is he's draw. Attention paid by the hours. He was like all right. I'll just go around the stadium. Nothing about this. Make sense at all and i remain complex fire. My brain is frozen. Because i'm still the last segment it's gonna be a win. I can't move past it mentally. I'm still there you're still. They're still founded by a tiny horse. Pablo never gets the better of me. Pablo yeah. Oslo sees not only did pablo sees the ability. Get the better of you He he really didn't mind shaming you in front of everybody in a way. That wasn't very considerate of your feelings. No no now feelings come into play. Yeah ow feeling leaping of the the way. I felt collecting that l. from pablo. There during do you question. When i didn't i mispronounced the word foale. I suspect that is how the spell. Losing to the raiders last week and then travis kelsey said that was their super bowl. That's how i feel. That was pablo super bowl. What you saw that last segment of television where he taunts me. That was a super bowl. And much chase. Come and demolish the raiders sunday nights. I wou escalated muniz voice. Is that getting a little hoarse. Pablo is collecting victories. 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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 2) Key makes his case that Jameis Winston CAN play football !

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 2) Key makes his case that Jameis Winston CAN play football !

"No one likes to feel stuck especially by your cloud but the IBM cloud is the most open and secure public cloud for business. It can manage all your apps and data anywhere smart. Loves problems. Ibm Let's put smart to work visit. Ibm Dot com slash flexible. Would I a little bit of a amateur psychologist or psychiatrist or some trying to get to the bottom of your preoccupation with James Winston Key? I know you know if my my wall James my seeing is justify how he how people feel that. He can't tell me how why people feel that. He can't play the national football league. Well because that's what it's coming down to. It's almost like you can't play. I look at other quarterbacks in the history of the game and I don't have my list of front but I made list of when I was back a couple of weeks ago in New York of I think it was about five guys and then in the first five years through a hundred around about one hundred interceptions and turned out to be some pretty good quarterback but also deal was. I looked at who their coaches were in those first five years and I go in and I use it in an example it. Just Peyton Manning for instance just Peyton and turned out to be one of the greatest quarterbacks ever lifts your first five years now so good first year through twenty nine interceptions but also I look at Jim. Moore was his coach. Okay then I look at. He got Tom more in Tony Dungy. Who wasn't going to allow him to do certain things. So when I started to look at that you go. Tom Moore is a pretty damn good quarterback guru coach. Who's been around for thousand years. Full grace knows what to do. Cut that down not significantly because paid still to a lot of interceptions in his career. Yeah he but my whole thing. Is You got a coach? These guys up you look at the San Francisco. Forty niners in Jimmy. Jimmy G. could've been a thirty touch at thirty and got but Shanahan window many. We're GONNA let I'm not letting you throw the ball fifty five to put us in that. Sit here here's the results of the homework. We did the three guys. Peyton manning so just so we know where the jump off point is James Winston through his first five years in this league and he's been a starter for all five of the years has thrown eight interceptions. Did you fifty fumbles did not put the farthest adjust straight inter settled. Because there's fifty phone. He fumbles a lot he. Fumbles lose though Several twenty twenty three James Winston eight interceptions paid managed to your point keithres. I five years through one hundred see through twelve more than Jameis Winston. Okay bread for through his first five years as a starter so throw away that I land a year through seventy seven. That's a lot but it's fewer than James Taught Brett farve which is getting started apparent. Cam Newton is not the pick machine. That people might think that he is there. Sixty four I five years. Which basically did it right. He's seventeen twelve thirteen twelve ten that that that's the trend that you're looking for but Dan guess who we got to START COACHING HIM UP. North Turner. You see what I'm Jan when you get the right guy you you it helps you. Here's Liam trends. Tom Brady's got sixty six. Inner Substances. I yes Cam Newton. But here's the problem with Cam Newton. We're we're talking about are not Cam Newton. Excuse me James Winston Jameis. Winston came in the League and through fifteen rookie. Not Too bad next year eighteen. Okay we're going the wrong direction. Third Year did a little bit better with eleven fourteen. Goes BACK UP AGAIN. And then this last season thirty. It's number at the end. That's concerning because you expect maybe there's a little fluctuation but it hasn't. He's going as another expert. Here's another exercise for you coach. Just so that you know real quick while we're talking Carson Palmer first year Arizona cardinals in that the you'll see what I'm talking about it so when you look at these when you look at these situations with these quarterbacks it's all about coaching is all about dialing up the system to protect your guy. Twenty two dancer Quells K next year. Three okay so here's your here's what. I'm getting ready to tell you. Learn some stuff. That was Bruce Arians first year with Carson Palmer. Now I could go even further. Tell you look at beer office burgers first year with Bruce Irons so when you start to first year with this coach you see what I'm saying. So clearly he didn't want him the second year. He wanted a little bit easier path to get Tom Brady. Which is I would probably done the same thing. But don't make it seem like that's who he is is a thirty pick machine guide when you win every time your first year you got guys. They're throwing over twenty picks which you know in your system. I guess all I'm saying I think part of the reason. God look so stark is because even with Tom Brady or Peyton Manning's when you look at their interception I gone. Oh Jeez Man. He did throw a lot. Interceptions interceptions touchdown ratio was still greater. I'll look at James Winston the season before he threw only fourteen interceptions bony nineteen touchdowns. He's dead guy. It's eleven interceptions in one thousand nine touchdowns last year. Thirty interceptions on your thirty three touchdowns the touchdown and I understand that the difference. I think the reason why his interceptions look so bad is because it's not a clearance over the interceptions. It's like fifty fifty five test if fifty five touchdowns in thirty minutes says when I go and you know what five two for one two for one. But it's only thirty three touchdowns and three interceptions. It's a one point one for one. There's no question. He threw a lot of interceptions this year. There's no question about it but you gotta fix it. No I get that. You GotTa fix it. You can't sit there and act like all of a sudden. He can't play football. Is it not do what about this though? And we'll see you leaders didn't do that. Free Agency is officially opening today. So we'll we'll see what happens in the. Tom Brady piece shocked if he came back and back. Tom Brady up. We'll we'll see that that's kind of where I was headed that I think football. Though the football coaches the coordinators the head coaches will decide what how they view James Duh the market for him because Marcus Mariota he he in Marietta come in the same year. Marianna was a he was quite honestly more successful than James Winston he went to the postseason Tijuana in one postseason game. But Marcus Mariota was a very mixed bag in Tennessee. There was there was a lot of stuff. It's not great. He's not a particularly accurate passer. He's moved on Oakland as their backup. And maybe the guy that takes over for Derek Carr of car plays poorly. What if he's not the backup in Tampa key? What do you think happens to Jameis? Winston is is it a similar situation where he needs to go somewhere else and back somebody else up. Maybe push the starter a little bit as a guy who might be able to come in or somebody to say you know what I know. There was thirty six. But what you're saying. I know that if I limit his if I can limit the damage if I don't make him throw the ball fifty times a game. I can take that thirty cut into twelve and I can make something happen with that. You'RE GONNA have to go on. He's I think he's in a he's in the situation where he's going to probably have to go somewhere in fight. Beat a number two guy and hope that the guy in front of him doesn't perform too. Well he's going to have to be on the Tanny Hill Mariota train. That's where his next obvious. No one's going. I don't think anybody's going to sign him to a teddy bridgewater. You're the guy deal. I think somebody's GonNa say here's a two year deal but you're are one euro one be you're not our one eighty R one B. Let's see what it looks like a training camp. Let's get through it the first couple of games. That's where he's not getting ready to be a career backup so like charters. No charge just went through a season where they had a guy throwing it to the wrong chargers in if the charges decided that they didn't want to go after. Let's say a Cam. Newton I think they go into the draft and get a guy at six in live with tyrod Taylor and that guy. That's what yes so the reason that they got to go draft and get a guy because Philip rivers is now a member of the Indianapolis Colts and it's interesting because Philip rivers has had a really nice career. He's won a bunch of games. He's throwing a bunch of touchdown passes had moderate success in the postseason. I guess is pretty tough guy. We all know that played the game in the tourney. Acl and all. He's a nice quarterback Tom. He's a very nice quarterback but it did feel like this was a dude that had really passed his expiration date. That Cam. Excuse me that Philip rivers at the bet. The middle of last season of his name was not Philip. Rivers that Dude on the bench your guy played really really poorly and now all of a sudden. India's kind of saying let's take one shot at this. It's a one year deal. Twenty seven million dollars. Twenty Million Bucks Philip Rivers. Make it happen because he looked done. I don't know if he's a twenty five million-dollar fixer. I fit because of the relationship. It fits in indy. He's he's not he's not you know sell well and you put that on the Billboard. S. concerned with you talking about that stuff but I'm about football winning. Yeah he he's not. I'd rather have jacoby percent in in running back from that and get him up to speed Again remember this was his first year in the situation and he took over for Frank. Right or better for Andrew Luck and so I would. I would rather have it that way. I would just rather have it that way. Because Philip rivers is washed. I think done. Yeah I think rivers is does he looked on it. It was not you know if you just it was a little. I'll always tell you about coaches. They wanted to make it happen. I always liked him forever. Got My team. I'M GONNA make sure Mariota's Oakland because in Las Vegas because Mike mayock likes Marcus. Mariota and John. Coming out of the John Loved Him. But that's all I'm talking about even for old guys. Yeah like like right. Now if Raheem Morris got a team here right by coach for tapping DC it at Atlanta. I could call him up and say hey man I'm GonNa get a shape I wanNA play. Go Yeah we could we. Could I remember back in his day? That's how it always wanted to work with with todd. Haley you know five years removed. Tyler's the coach Kathy Cheese. I went in for a visit to just see. Kick the Tires Philip Rivers. That's what it always is with. Philip Rivers Frank Reich. This is all I had him in San Diego. We got along real well in the quarterback room twenty three touchdowns twenty interceptions and the chargers were lousy last year and mostly because he was bad. We side Dave Dave Meggett when I was jinx we saw Dave Meggett when I was with the jets. Like about four or five games left to the season. Now I'LL WATCH DAVE. Meggett play when I was like seventy years but he's playing for bill neal with the giants in hockey. You'RE GONNA love him on the part like May I could've left Leon Dietrich run as do buyers buyers keep buyers playing. I was watching these three hundred because they always like Keith when he was in Philly and they used to play against the giants I was like and that's how Philip rivers winds up passed by the way. I need a friend that can give me a twenty five million dollars a year job because they were travis. I always liked the way I keep buyers. Not a great decision. Probably not a reason that you didn't get to Super Bowl to you. Got To Tampa all right. Demarco far is going to join US next. We'll talk about with the rams might do in free agency. Whether or not todd. Gurley might be on the road. The world is locked down for the most part but the NFL and free agency is in full. Swing joining us right now to talk about everything that the rams might do the Super Bowl champion of the program Demarco Far Good Morning Tomorrow. How are you mark? What's happening? Try HOLD ON ONE SECOND T. Why do you a win now? I'M NOT GONNA I'm not GonNa let Rosh talk you talk to tracy is not. It's not that is not that I like them so much. You you need to be fair. People need to be fair. You going to be fair. Be Fair. Don't don't let up no single cause a guy through thirty and essentially act like he can't play football in the national football league in. That is what that is what people are. Hold on one SEC though. That's what people are trying to set that narrative as if he cannot play quarterback position in the national football league when dirt cutter was his coach. Okay for four of those years and then all of a sudden you get a coaching the first year who historically shows that when he gets a quarterback in the first year the interception rate is higher. That's all I'm saying that's all I'm saying. Okay all right. That's fair. That's history. I mean but in game I mean what do you see out of Jamie? I see happiness and I see sadness nothing depending on when you get it. Yeah well does it. They don't make the playoffs. I saw I saw. He came into the Coliseum in torched around but also saw that he wanted to help Dharamshala to win. I've ever seen him play. So where the problem is. I haven't seen it again. No I've seen him play spurts. He's he's been he's been goodness he has moments I- demarco so we see everybody. Moving everywhere. Quarterbacks. In particular is pretty quiet for the rams so far at this point let's just cut right to it. The Guy whose name we've heard mentioned over getting key mentioned this about halfway through last season do you think by the time we get to football in September. The girl is a member of this team. I remember Yeah Yeah it was asked me that question of the last time it was almost you guys and I gave kind of a stock answer because I had to. But that's what I was getting from. You know the rams from the from the the football side but I mean if you're in the business long enough to know when they start talking nice about you. Chances are something bad's going to happen but I mean you knew. Last season was not going to stand. We still don't have a reason as to why Todd Gurley was the way. Girlie was last season so there was a whole lot of deflections. Even going back to you. Know how healthy is the Ne- never got a straight answer so Not Shocking and it looks right now probably not. It looks like they'll do everything they can not have talked early on the roster. But here's the question who's GonNa Trade for that contract. I don't know who's out there who who does todd. Gurley look attractive to and if he does look attractive. Why wouldn't Iran's keep him so? I think you're not in the same situation Carolina's in Brian Cam. Newton Cam Newton. Well thank you again. I think you will cam. Newton doesn't have any guaranteed money left on his contract. So it's a little different. They get a nineteen point. One million dollar hit whether they cutting McCready make celebrates whatever's left of the Pro Russian is guaranteed signing bonus. When you look at Todd Gurley situation he does have some guaranteed money left on the contract and I think Bill Campbell of teams. That will try to get creative in terms of figuring out the contract as you know as well as I know. Demarco the fact that it's out there now he's devalued so you can't go in asking for an on top of being devalued from a mental standpoint. He's fractured because you put him out there. Now you gotta take back so the rams will probably going to have to get whatever it is that they can get in terms of value. Let that team work that contract situation right. And if he's GonNa be flexible too. I guess to to make a deal happened then. Why not be flexible here? You know what I mean. But I can't be flexible here because you don't like me and I don't like it all screams toward something more personal so And then look in my experience. These situations always end with the player playing someplace else next season. Absolutely I'm DEMARCO. There's been a legitimate news. Does Rams have made so far this off season percentile wise. How much of it has to do with one different personnel versus money Well I mean Cory Littleton you. You would love to keep but he got too expensive so good for him. He got paid by the raiders. That's awesome everybody in the building. Happy before a little Michael Brokers same thing you love the hold onto these guys but you know you can't pay the Price Tag That's just the way it is but you know after the Super Bowl and then after a nine and seven run I mean I think at the end of that year my first thought was maybe this is getting a little bit stale. You might want to you know. Break the mold and start over nut go all the way back to square one but kind of remake yourself I think Bella checks done it several times in his career so every team needs to you know break fresh down break press ground with new names every now and then. GonNa be tough this year. You don't have a lot of off-season to get together and work on things if you're going to be young defense but you've seen it before so old leaders move on. It's time for young leaders to emerge. But you've got to be on the field to get those read. The difference between a check in a Sean McVeigh lead team to me is being able to understand talent. The rams seemed like to me with less shy they pay for players to come in that have big resumes opposed to Bella check that is looking to revitalize me and you right now that that right. That's the difference and I think they get players to play drafting guys. Finding little gems like a Julian Edelman out of nowhere like a Devin mccourty out of nowhere. Then all of a sudden I was a kid that took the interception From into San Francisco Seattle Super Bowl but find a guy like Butler on the scrap heap in. Turn him into a superstar. That's the difference between the Rams in New England. I think what the rams gotta do they gotta hit the reset button to figure out what they want to be in state of course Cooper now. I think they were in when now mode so they were adding pieces over the last couple of years and they got to the super bowl so they were almost right ninety five percent right. They didn't get the Patriots problems and they didn't win it but they were there. Nfc champion so But that only lasts for so long eventually? Like you said you're GONNA have to reset and start over. But they did do a good job. They identified the running back at one point and we just talked about that. That's run. Its course they identified The defensive tackle Aaron Donald and they got their quarterback in in certain situations with Jared Goff. So they got the pieces they wanted to build around it. But now it's time to hit the reset button and start again tomorrow far joining us. Super Bowl champs sideline reporter for the Rams and DEMARCO. What about Deandre Hopkins going Arizona with the Rams are on the Super Bowl two years ago? The San Francisco Forty niners in the Super Bowl last year. We all know what the Seattle seahawks are year in and year out all of a sudden Arizona. Just got a lot better. What does this mean for the rams? Just that the fact that one of the best receivers football is now. Somebody gotTA deal with twice a year it carry. But it's not something you haven't dealt with if you've been riding with the rams for awhile because at one point you had a low. A young Larry Fitzgerald and a very seasoned and quantum bulb and say look wall in Arizona so having a hot receiver down in Arizona is not new. But Look I. I think the Andre Hopkins and this is not Tuten Jalen Ramsey's horn at all. I think he's dominant against every corner in the NFL. Not named Jalen Ramsey. I think he gives him issues. So it makes sense I don't know why Houston would do such a thing. You're in this business to collect the players. Get rid of them. So I don't know what the Texans are doing but the jury hopkins to me When you have that receiver that conversation about the best receiver in the League or the most dominant player weekend and week out. His name must come up because he is that guy. So you get your thoughts on Tom. Brady was supposed to go. And Are you shocked at all about where he's alternate landed Kind of you know it's funny And key you'll love this when you think about it right We we all buy into the hype. The fooled building. He's got six rings. He's the greatest ever do it. No one's going to dispute that but when you really get down to your about the hand thirty million bucks to do this forty two years old. I mean it just well. That just doesn't make sense breaks but we are talking about Tom Brady. So if he goes down there and flames out. That's what happens but he sold tickets but if he goes down there and make some contender. It makes fellowship look bad why we why this is why we can't wait for kickoff. You know you said thirty. You might want to add a couple more Zeros. Something to because I think it's a two year deal in probably be north of sixty million dollars but if you look at Tom Brady season last year which I've watched pretty much entire every single game from beginning to end. He was pretty good. He didn't have anybody to throw to. That was one of his main issues. He now he goes to Tampa Bay. He's got some pretty weapons see. I think he's still think he's still one of the top six quarterbacks in this league well I I had. I had the chance to play against Montana twice one. Actually no I came in when he was in Kansas City so I saw him as a kid and then I played against him in Kansas City. It was the same Joe Montana. Same offense same everything so He made them contenders. He made them as good as the forty niners where they couldn't get over the hump but he was just as good. So if you let Tom Brady work his magic and gives him pieces that it's GonNa take for him to be successful. There isn't a smarter guy out there in the NFL right now. There isn't a guy that knows more about football than Tom Brady. So if you give him the right pieces If you can defend him and you can protect him with the right guys along the offensive line. Look it's going to be Tom. Brady in the mix come playoff time again just with a different uniform on. Let's listen thinks he's pretty smart. I'm just telling you there. That's true the DeMarco in just real quick About five thirty this morning keeshonds eating a piece of Fried Chicken Popeye's chicken. What's the earliest you've ever eaten chicken? You mean like went out and bought it or went to the fridge or like went out and I just got. Yeah I mean I mean after midnight. Tara enough said we know the answer that Demarco far super bowl champ. Good here voice. We'll talk to you soon tomorrow. Thanks assume are by the way that was earliest. I've ever had like hot. Fresh chicken and by the way is hot and good really good really great dog. Now let's go on a great morning. Show seventy espy. So Kevin Durant. Has the virus tested positive? He is one of four Brooklyn Nets players that tested positive. According to reports three of them are a symptomatic. We don't know which of the three Document names they we know Kevin Durant controls day. I would hate to be a net player. You don't even get your name. Corona virus and stuff is funny. They just showed some some highlights on TV. About in the Lakers. The Lakers were the last team to play the nets. Yes And then they showed. Anthony Davis shot. That didn't go in. They cut to the bench. Kevin Durant has got the Andre Jordan on one side of them. And then you couldn't quite see the other players and they're literally sitting in each other's laps. I mean we've all watched him against the room on that bench. There's no but see the thing is when did it who contract and that's the thing you just don't know but because the Lakers were the last team that they played but you got. Obviously the Lakers are now locked down. And they're trying to figure out what they're gonNA do and this is why. I think that there's a very real possibility. I'm not saying it's likely but it's possible that we just the NBA is done. It's done that. We might not see you not forever but for this season did this could just be because if player start passing along and all of a sudden every team has a bunch of guys that are infected with corona virus. You cannot solve. Roll this thing out even in a couple of months. This is the reason why when the reports came out that the NBA wasn't going to allow journalists to be in the locker room. My very first response was Players check the players. I there in more contact with more people than journalists says and it was like if you're if you're caution is about spreading this there what the players activities are are way more likely to spread the virus then journeys come to you after game. Ask You why you hit the free salting. It had anything to do with journalists. I think it was just trying to separate everybody from one another in general. Try to get you over here. Get them over here. So everybody's protect I get. That part is just feels as if the first step in my opinion would have been less test all our players. I that should have been like an assertive move. As opposed to wait to Rudy Gobert contract survivors after having some sort of like symptoms and then. Oh she start. Testing people remember. It also happened. Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang. Bang thing what you just said at the very beginning key I think is the most you just don't know it's not like you get it and five minutes later. You start to feel lousy works. You can have it and never get sick right. You just don't know that you have it and so you're passing and all that that's why especially with a team. I mean you could speak to the locker rooms or close quarters airplane messing around tall touching. But you think about the three of us. We spent four hours together in this room. I it's not a particularly large inhabits on contract right three and a half four. But you figure if you're if you're a player you're on the bench together for three hours. Yeah you're on an airplane together for far longer than that. Hold on a bus back and forth edge you are. You're cohabitated with these people. Eight nine ten twelve hours a day that if one guy hasn't you're all getting it because think about it if I'm walking on the bus and getting on the bus and I'm walking on the bus. I'm probably touching the seat to get myself through narrow. Yeah you know or I'm walking on the plane. I'm probably touching. The seats. Are Touching your shoulder. Because he was asked you know just because that's what to do right navigate through to forget the players love you guys else at the in contact with the staff new equipment manager the assistant coaches. I mean there's and then what their lives are like so Katie touches them assistant coach and Assistant. Kosan goes home and his wife's a schoolteacher. I mean like that's kind of where we're talking about not too so hype hyperbole or fear you know to society but this is how the virus is transmitted in his. Why is he like? San Francisco is completely on lockdown. Its way a country like Italy. A country is on lockdown. In Spain. France have gone to some pretty drastic measures as well. We know that China and obviously they're dealing with a different situation on a variety of different levels one. The outbreak two just the fact that they have in authority in government can say no. This is how we're going to do it. Our government is asking us to stay inside asking us to stay away from US places. They're not saying okay. You have a fever getting the van right. It's it's it's not that so the the spread might be you know we're looking at it right now that CNN is reporting that it could be at the tipping point that this could be right where it really starts to accelerate before it starts to flatten out again a little bit. And when guys like Kevin Durant and Rudy. Gobert all these. It's no matter where you got absolutely. It's we have the rules. Follow the rules mastering Abell. Yeah I mean I. I was devastated. Tom Hanks in Australia got it. I mean it's just it's it is what it is. It's what it is. What wash your hands and follow the rules right take it or shake it and NFL. Free Agency edition coming up next on the morning show on seven ten. Espn players are on the move key at the top of the list. Is Tom Brady? Who IS GOING TO TAMPA Bay both Bill Belichick and the Patriots and Tom Brady? And the buccaneers will make the playoffs next season. Taking a shake. Take Up. Yeah they still in the New England. Still the favorite to win the division. Even though Tom Brady is not on the team barely vegas has them as a narrow favourite steel is going to be. They don't even care. They put Bella check on the center. And they still feel is your quarterback. That's the best team in national. Feel like that's the best team in division steel because of the coach. And there's no worry at all that Tom Brady. Mike get squeezed out because one the divisions hard right you got you got drew brees in that division and keep this in mind too but if you cut those if you cut those thirty interceptions in half the Jameis Winston They. They were seven and nine. It could have been easily. I twelve win team. I don't disagree with that but you're talking about Tom. Drew Brees who that team has been together for a long time. So that's going to be good. They're going to be good and you think about it. He's a new guy. The new teammates new system all these things that and the training schedule may be seriously condensed. Which means veteran teams might have a little bit of advance we went through the NFC playoff teams. There are no I. They're either going to have to win the division or be really really tight in terms of at Twelve. Thirteen wins ideal. Antonio Brown will be a teammate of Tom. Brady's in Tampa Bay taking her shaken. Who you better take it. Shake it shake it up now should have they. It's cute everybody's talking about it. He talks the time. I mean even knowing time for Week K. Tom's not look at his fallen. And push a nor I mean as you know but I don't I don't think he. Tom Brady is going to vouch for Antonio Brown coming into the situation. Plus Bruce Arians coached in Pittsburgh and he's really close to being rothlisburger so I just don't see that really have here. Here's the other part of it too. You don't need him in Tampa. I know. He's a great player. But you've got Chris. Godwin you've got Mike Evans. These are two really high level wide receivers. I know Antonio Brown's a great player but it's not like New England had to bring Antonio Brown because they didn't have any weapons Tampa doesn't have that issue. No have that issue. That doesn't always get good at a guy. Because of the Bruce Aaron situation and being rothlisburger being so close I can't see what being would sign off on it. I just that would be tough. Philip rivers is the new quarterback in Indianapolis the Indianapolis Colts will win the AFC south ticket or shake shake it shake still think. Tennessee are Houston. Wins that deal of the that that they overplayed their hand in indy but thinking they just feel rivers to the situation when Jacoby percent was hurt last year and they still got a lot out of him. Just adding a guy who's broken down was old now for the rivers is. He looks old as a quarterback. Tom Brady is opening. Look even close to that. Arctic question for you Because Philip rivers has so many kids they're allowed to be in the house the same time larger than you gotTa love and my parents or something. But they've already busted the number. Here's Dan Orlovsky talking about Dak Prescott relative to Carson Wentz and Jared Goff. We always tried to spin this or compare this in relation to guys that are similar. In their age grouping right to the Jared Goff's Carson Wentz is well they're making him offers per reports that are greater than Jared Golfing Carson Wentz contracts and so like. I'm looking at it going wait three years ago Carson. Wentz led his team to the number one seed in the playoffs before he got hurt. Deck has not done that two years ago. Jared Goff took his team to the Super Bowl Deck. Hasn't done that. And what what point does Dakhla got his contract and go. You know what this is a fair deal Dak Prescott has not accomplished the same things as Carson Wentz and Jared Goff shake it shake it. You're going to shock till you please. Dan Alaska just talking K. He's he's a better quarterback in both of them why he deserves more money than both because he does more. He doesn't run. He can run the football. He can throw it. He can do all you got. When he finally got Amari Cooper. They started playing better in the passing game. Third down percentage just got better like stop committee Tono La Right okay but todd. Gurley lead them in Aaron. Donald led the rams to the Damn Super Bowl and your. I'M GONNA defend my guy here second. Todd Gurley Morales where you have one on each side girly Aaron. Donald are obviously incredibly important pieces. Of what the Rams did that. You're that second half in New Orleans when they won the game was 'cause jared Goff went off. Okay Jared Goff won that game for jared. Goff had a game but it doesn't mean doesn't mean that debt. Prescott doesn't deserve more money than you know larger Keesa because you're not for deck since John F members of his own. It's not about the numbers is from. Your logic is his turn is his time. It's not about whether or not he deserves. It is what the market is said his moments. This time that's the logic I'm using is not that he's better than or less than it's just simply as a matter of this is what happens. He's up is his time. Don't try to correct the market with him when you didn't create the market with others and on top of that. He played in every single. Battaglia has been hurt. One nine eight two extension one as a cough drop. Miss Uses Cross Rod. That was a cough drop crying. Vile Iowa but no traffic about it. Jared Goff's a good quarterback I agree and Carson Wentz is a good quarterback. Yeah he was leading his team three years ago. He was leading his team three years ago. And got her laughing at me for marquee but we can talk about the touchdowns the interceptions and all these things. But the fact of the matter is the Eagles won the super bowl in large part because of all the work that Carson Wentz put into put them in a position to get there. The Rams went to the super bowl in large part because jared Goff played well and the Dallas cowboys have not been out of the playoffs out of the second round of the playoffs. And they got a new coach. Mike McCarthy and they had bump geared now. Let's see what happens it? Well we we might in good for Dako along the way all right joy and abdomen will be in New England to start the season. Take shake it take. It take shown Tom Brady Guy. No purge the system. I must say right here now. Judy is not going to be a page now. He'll be a patriot. They not getting ready to overhaul him. One he's he's the one consistent player that they have at that position and his security blanket for whatever coach. Whatever quarterback place now. He's about the flip like a squirrel that just got caught by the cops. He's GonNa flip he's Gong be turned into pigs and keep it moving. They're not having any. Tom Brady Energy left floating around. When the seasons start it does feel like it's thank you very much we love you. We're thrilled to have done everything we did with you by has you clicked. Can you think of any industry? That has a major change like that. That the president leave but you keep all the VP. That doesn't happen right. Julian is a VP. He's a C. O. Days a new person in charge. They're gonNA flip. I'll be able to tell you when the season starts from the other side of the country on what happened. Let's try this Cam. Newton will be the starting quarterback for the chargers week. One take it shake it? Nope the problem is before I take it off shake it. The problem is higher than going to acquire. You're right because he's no he get cut they could but right now. He's a member of the panthers it to do it today. They'd either have to cut him or they'd have to poetry. I would say they want him out. Rights say king's ransom where I would say. Yeah take it take it. Take our take it because I think I think he's if he's free and they let him go to get hit with a nineteen point. One million dollars cap hit regardless if they trade him or not they still. The money's GonNa accelerate so if you release him 'cause nobody's GonNa give you anything because they know you want to release it because you're not gonNA carry the money. So they wind up releasing him. And you don't have to release and if you release it doesn't matter if you releasing in June you may be able to push some money off to the next year. The interesting thing is if you release him in June. It helps you from a cap standpoint because the league year does won't really start to the summer anyway. It's far as being able to touch football players learn. It's not like he's going to be not as anything. So if I'm Carolina I'm a hold on to it till June so I could spread that money out all right so dan rea is in Arizona. We've all been kind of scratching our heads to exactly why one of the best players and football got traded with three years left on his deal in the middle of his prime. We may have an explanation. Why it's coming up next on the morning show on seven ten ESPN.

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Hour 3: Decision Time

Izzy and Spain

35:41 min | 2 years ago

Hour 3: Decision Time

"Spain and fits we patriots bills coming up in the if you think the pills are bad. Cleveland sitting Maxon hold my bare at Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio the ESPN app. Siriusxm channel eighty Sarah. Spain Jason Fitz ESPN radio presented by progressive insurance. Again, patriots bills on Monday night football. But sarah. I mean, I'm just saying why are people stunned by this? Why do people suddenly think that the the Browns were going to be this really good football team? Last time. I checked Hugh Jackson was a coach, and you wouldn't want in thirty one the last two years. I think we just the hype machine got out of control. And now it's like the stock market. It's correcting itself and doing what it should have done a long time ago. You nailed it on the hype machine, and that's why I said earlier this season, maybe two or three weeks ago. I said I'm excited that they seem to be taking meaningful steps forward. I'm excited that they seem to have found a quarterback that looks like he could be sticking around for a while. But the problem with getting too far ahead of themselves is now it's disappointing for them to be doing what they're doing now. And it shouldn't be it should still be still a part of the rebuilding process. And. I think people got a little out on their skis and how much they could actually do this season. Well, we're going to get some straight talk from ESPN's. Andrew Hawkins in-studio, given the straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless. Best phones, best networks, no contracts. And look hog you have experienced with this organization you played for the Browns from two thousand fourteen to two thousand sixteen by the way, good to see my friend. How are you? Good to see you to him. Good, man. Good. And it should be noted during the break there. We were having a great debate on whether or not there would be headphones form, and then he brought his own headphones. Type of profession back to get them. I left them in the other day. I walked back three minutes to get him. I would have been here by eight Dr that's a total pro so hawk. I guess walk me through this process. Does does getting rid of Hugh Jackson make the Browns better right now? No, I'm I'm not a believer of firing a head coach MRIs and making the team better. And I don't know what the expectations were going to the season for a winless football team. I know we made a lot of moves. I know everybody fell into the phantom of the Cleveland Browns. But this isn't something you're going to just be able to turn around like that. Now that being said the result of the results. This is a results driven business. If I was a receiver. It doesn't matter how good or bad. I am what happened if I don't put up the stats, I get cut. And I'm the kinda guy that I feel like the same standard. It's separate coaches as much as he was my guy as much as I love him as much as you know. I don't agree with all the situation that happened over the last couple of years the result of the results. So it seems to us though that maybe this. Vision. One wasn't as much about results, particularly since we agree with you. It doesn't make them better right now to Nevada defensive coordinator is never called offensive plays. But that this was more about culture and the way they treat each other. And the way they treat their players and about not ruining a young guy and Baker Mayfield. Are you reading it that way as well? Yeah, I'm reading that way for this reason. Now, the reason why you have guys like Joe Thomas who me and him to a podcast Tomahawk show found everywhere. Puck or available shameless plug. I have well done. No shame. So me me and Joe played together in Cleveland and Joe played through. I think it was nine straight off of coordinators and maybe four or five head coaches over that time that's like an insane amount of offenses, probably an NFL record to be honest. There's only one guy who that time period. That Joe goes back for Jack because you Jackson treats his players like, you know, not like from a babying a players coach. He's just a guy that cares about his players. And it's it's rare in the NFL, I'm telling you it really is you can call the guy. Two three in the morning with an issue. And he's going to help you out within a matter. I could do it right now. Right. So, but the problem with the has looms that they had with the Hugh situation was before he got there in twenty fifteen Mike Patton was our head coach and Ray farmer was our general manager, and these are two guys that got to a point where they didn't agree on anything because the GM didn't hire the head coach and in the NFL when that happens, there's always going to be a rift is always going to be a roadblock. And so it got to the point when things weren't going. Well, they started to pit each other against the other and not like probably not purposely. But it was hey, it's you not me because we're in the business of protecting our jobs, we all wanna make as much money as we can't for as long as we can. So when that happened there was so much turmoil. It affected the team. And it seemed that wasn't bad like from a talent standpoint underachieved mightily, and it was just it was the whole building was just not fun to be in from the top within the marketing department. You name it it just had a bad effect. So why these guys are like pointing the finger has them comes in and says, okay, gimme the toy. Nobody gets it. Everyone out. We're going go get all new people and one of the things he was looking for going into the next regime was you guys need to work together. That was understood, and it was saucy Brown, and it was Hugh. So here we are. We're todd. Haley comes in and Hugh is now understanding he's coaching for his job. Right. And there's a rift and these are to alpha personalities it didn't mesh. Well, the thing that would be has them off the quickest is turmoil in his building. He doesn't want it. And that's why he threw the baby out with the bathwater. We're talking to ESPN's Andrew Hawkins in studio. You can follow him on Twitter with the coolest Twitter handle of all time at hawk at hawk. Okay. So you get that man you pay someone for that. Like, I would love to tell you where the bodies. But. Do you think the country hasn't? So I want to go back to your comment here on Hugh because let's face it. This isn't the first time he's been in a situation where his job was on the line and how he handled something. Ego wise played into play the part of it. He was the coach of the raiders in an eight year when they were frankly in as much turmoil as could be post the death of Davis any handle that in a very ego driven way of stepping out and saying I need more power. I need more control, and I'll fix this. Now, he's doing the same thing. I mean, isn't there some moment of of Hugh Jackson that we should expected the evolution immaturity. In that process. I mean, I don't know if that's evolution of maturity, see the thing about coaching is it doesn't. It's like anything else. Any other dream job? You can imagine. That's the pinnacle of football, right? So you get to that point. And the reason why there was a rift between Todd Haley and Hugh Jackson. And if you remember if you watched hard knocks you watch you watch the play out live on television is that when it's. Your team if I'm gonna get fired. The worst thing I could do is get fired doing what you do. I wanna get fired making my decisions if I'm gonna get fired. If I'm going to be the guy that they didn't do it. You wanna be able to control that I'm okay with getting fired for not doing it. When I did it my way, and it didn't work. I don't want to have to do it your way, and it doesn't work. But again, we don't view it that way. Like, that's why the patriots are incredible. Now, Bella check is an incredible coach, and I'm not putting his name in any sense with any other coach, but Bella check controls what the lunch ladies cook. I can't do any interview without again. Okay. Bye. Bella check. I was there for three days just fresh off of graduating from Columbia with a masters in someone wanted to do an interview on the about that had no idea I was even plan for the patriots and it had to go through Bella chick. And it was not we're going to focus on football now this spring. So when you have that kind of control it does make it easier. You get the players you want the coaches understand. You're the boss. You you make the fires. You know? It's a lot of cooks in the kitchen. Cleveland has gotten better even even with the turmoil today, I can say is not as bad as it was a couple of years ago. And I think has has a plan one thing that is for certain he has a quarterback Sarah Spain and Jason fancied Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio talking to SPN's. Andrew Hawkins in studio. Mike greenberg. Couple of hours ago tweeted Baker mayfield's agent should demand a trade that kid has some magic. And they're going to ruin him for the good of the sport the Browns. Should let him go. That lasts bits never going to happen. The Browns finally found one they're not going to let them go ahead. Do you make of that take your Baker Mayfield and his people and anyone rooting for him? Is this a good thing? Or is this just another sign that you're in the middle of the mess? Now. I don't think it's a method thing about Baker Mayfield. And this is why people love them not just in Cleveland around the world is why we love watching them at first we're like, oh, you're cocky, or you know, he's too confident or oh, you know, he's the dude is a competitor to the tenth power. Baker Mayfield knows if he can turn the Cleveland Browns around like what that means for what what he's done for the game of football. He will be a legend for the rest of his life. And not that he's chasing legendary status, but he wants that challenge. He doesn't want to go to a place where everything is in. You know, you're just a plug and play guy and everything around. You is all set he wants to be the guy that's in Cleveland route. So that I can promise you that doesn't faze Baker Mayfield. And again, I I'm of the belief that all of this be taken place now is in an effort to preserve Baker Mayfield. And what Cleveland things they have in that guy real quick before? We let you go patriots. Tonight, Monday night football. Josh Gordon as somebody who played with New England wide receiver. It's going to be kept off the field for about a quarter in tonight's game. Because of tardiness you hear that. I know you've said a lot of strong things about Josh them the player. Do you think he can be successful in New England? I think he'd be successful. If they the new Inc. New england. No, excuse me. New England knows what they signed up for and benching him for the first quarter against the bills. Not that big of a deal. Honest. Let's let's call us betas paid. You can follow him on Twitter at hawk your host and Snapchat tonight this necessarily five. Most this necessarily five AM, you can go to Snapchat. Look for sports you'll see him there. Also, check out the podcast. It is spectacular. Even that molding. Spain and Fitz. Sarahspain Jason Fitz hanging out Monday night football is underway. I know I can't I can't contain the excitement patriots pills. Monday night football reports said Josh Gordon was supposed to sit. But I'm hearing he is out on the field. We'll try and figure out what's going on there. And to help us. We're going to go to Dan Hager who is in buffalo, Dan. What's it? Look like there. It's a cold night. But it's a consistently windy night. That makes sense for forty six degrees. Little chance of rain, but that hasn't stopped Tom Brady here before in buffalo is fourteen wins against the bills here at new airfield, and he's twenty eight three in his career got buffalo overall. So it's going to take a lot from the buffalo front. Four to really put pressure on Brady if they wanna come away with a little upset here. Those mafias ready to go with the team honoring Thurman Thomas tonight, retiring his number thirty four and Josh, Gordon, he did not go out in the first place, but he came in second place. So looks like that suspension was short lived his suspension. Then they update the Dan will keep us updated throughout the course of the show. That's right shot. Gordon? Didn't miss the first quarter as reported. No, no, he missed the first play, Sarah. I guess the patriot ways to really hold them feet to the fire. They're not following the rules. And that means sitting out play that is. I just I mean, I don't even know what to I I don't even know what to say. You know, I open helps them see the air of his ways. He's he's a changed, man. Now, you know, what all the suspensions? None of that did anything being held out for one play against the bills. However, and suddenly he's like I need to reassess my life priorities. So he wasn't on time. So they made him late for the start of the game. Oh, look at that that was cleverly done. So let let's it's time for Sarah. And Jason argue on Spain. As one of the hotbed conversations around the NFL today in around the NFL throughout the course of the year has been James Winston, and let's just be flat out on his team as Winston looked unprepared. Inaccurate and incapable of being a professional quarterback yesterday for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And is a big part of why they lost obviously in Cincinnati. And so from that has garnered a great discussion Sarah on whether or not Jamie is should be the quarterback not just next year. But even for the rest of this year in Tampa to me, there's an obvious answer here. This has been a much better team under Ryan Fitzpatrick. The reason to bring Winston in after his suspension was over which is another part of this thing as well. 'cause that is just as much who Jameis Winston is as the interceptions is the ability to believe that he's going to be there for you. Every week is always a question with him. But he gets back from suspension and Fitzpatrick does what are you? Usually does which is, you know, struggle in intermittently in the midst of these great other performances, they decide to go with Winston and the team just hasn't looked the same under Winston. He's got a six to ten touchdown to interception ratio. Meanwhile, Fitzpatrick thirteen touchdowns to five picks. So as much as you want to talk about how bad Fitzpatrick comes out. It's not worse than bad Winston. He's got double the interceptions of Fitz. Patrick this season. Total QBR fifty six point one to Fitzpatrick's seventy eight point seven completion percentage, four points lower than Fitzpatrick. And you've heard from the guys around Fitzpatrick in as many words and subtly from others and passive aggressively from others that they prefer and believe more in him. And so if James is not going to be your future, which I think is something they probably just figured out then you don't put them out there and risk injury. And being stuck with him. You have to go with this Patrick. Well, that's the biggest the injury piece of this is the largest piece because let's. Remember next year James means they have already picked up the fifth year option. So James Winston is scheduled to make just under twenty one million dollars next year. The only guarantee to that though, they cut him right now, they don't have to pay that the only guarantee would be if he's injured if he's injured this year, then they would be fully on the hook for that. Which is why this become such a big question. So now in my mind is time for straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless. Best phones, best networks, no contracts. I have to set up a little bit of my my mindset here. Sarah. Which is I don't think James Winston is the future. And I don't think Jameis Winston is the guy you can rely on. However next year's draft class. Does not have a quarterback situation. That's an easy one to answer. And there is no sure bet of who's going to be out there for you. James Winston next year is due twenty like I said twenty point nine to two million dollars. Right. That would make him the nineteenth highest paid quarterback in the NFL next year. That is not a bad number for quarterback. Even if they draft a quarterback that would be on a rookie deal. They could still afford to keep James Winston on the. Team until they figure out what they have. Because ultimately, even though I don't think James Winston is the answer. I don't think that there's another viable answer sitting out there that's easy to figure out. So for a smaller fee than other guys you keep guy that's detrimental to your team in both on field performance and potentially also in terms of culture guy, who you can necessarily trust to be out there who had any moment could bring more shame upon your organization for all the off the field stuff guy. You're basically saying when you say, oh, we'd only be the twenty-first most expensive quarterback in the league. And that's better you're saying, well, let me tell you this car it doesn't run. But it does cost less than other cars that do. No, I'm asking the same question that Adam Schefter, frankly, asked to golden WinCo guys this morning who's replacing him with. We're all sitting here saying he shouldn't be the quarterback next year. But who are who are we going to replace them with their isn't a there isn't a big? Free agent quarterback that's going to be out on the market. There isn't any sort of like right now if you just do Google on who the biggest Google search on who the biggest free agent quarterbacks of next year would be it's tyrod Taylor. Teddy Bridgewater Brett Hundley for the Packers. And that's if none of those guys stay where they are. And have no those guys figure out other options. I don't think there's an easy solution because they didn't address it in the draft this year, the only solution in my mind, even if they draft a guy, you're if they draft a guy he costs them nothing. They're still going to have to keep something around to be a placeholder unless there's suddenly just going to throw everything to a rookie quarterback. And there's no necessity to do that. Here's the problem, though, you you if it's Fitzpatrick getting the start Fitzpatrick's clearly not the future but Fitz, Patrick, you know, turning thirty six next month is better to me than deciding that you're going to continue to put your faith in in in Winston to me. You are saddling yourself to a guy for the future that will be more detrimental to the. Element and moving on than if you just got rid of them and not just because the off the field stuff. So to me you're asking who else is out there. There's plenty of dudes out there to make a trade for and see if they're able to make a starting. You know, starting spot guys who are backups elsewhere. You can as you said find a guy in the draft. See if you get a diamond in the rough somebody who's a little bit lower. Or maybe that other teams are passing on. It's not an easy fix. But they should be looking across the way to the Jaguars. And what they decided with Blake Bortles, which is he's all right? But he's not bad enough for us to go out and get someone else. And now, they're stuck. And I know that there is no conversation about a fifty million dollar extension for Winston. But there is a discussion about keeping him around. And then decided that you're okay with a guy who's got whatever what was the number some insanity number of turnovers in such a short amount of time that to me it just feels like you're allowing your. Another season of this garbage. If you stick with Spain and Fitz, not a lot of wishful thinking going on with the Tampa Bay bucks. After that outing from Jameis Winston yesterday. Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio the espionage and Sirius XM channel eighty Sarah Spain and Jason Fitz, and we were talking about Jason James Winston last last segment, and I wanted to keep it going because I think there was some good thoughts from Jeff Saturday angle wing. Also, I found the stat I was looking for. I almost said it correctly from memory and then in my head. I said, no it can't be that many. But it is James Winston in forty nine games has thrown fifty four interceptions and fumbled thirty six times. Now, some of those fumbles were recovered, but ninety times in forty nine games. He's lost the ball since two thousand fifteen only Blake Bortles has lost the ball more times ninety one. And when I made that comparison fits that's partly what I was thinking about which is an you've got someone who so clearly. Does not take care of the ball. And you are setting yourself up to go down the same road as the Jags. Which is to say, even when you get in a window. Now, the the bucks aren't there? They've got bad defense, and they have for almost all of his four seasons. But when you do get into a window. We've got a good defensive side. You're wasting all the offense at talent you have right now. Mike Evans to Sean Jackson. Chris God, all these guys. OJ Howard Cameron bright. There's there's good talent there that you're wasting. And if you keep him, and you make that window even bigger you're going to end up like the Jags re safe. We had gone out and looked for someone who is more capable and took care of the ball. We wouldn't be wasting this window of great defense or this window of great offensive talent. I would buy that. But when you look at the last three seasons also on that list of turnovers turnover machines is Kirk cousins who in two thousand fifteen through eleven pics, then twelve and thirteen picks. And all that did was get him the biggest contract and NFL history. So as much as we want Willie we're flipping about where we wanna place the turnover process. I agree with you. The Jameis Winston. The turnover machine is a problem. I just don't know that I feel I don't feel like at all. I would want to rely on a thirty six turning thirty seven year old Ryan Fitzpatrick, if even is still an option for me at that point. Because if it's Patrick does play out the rest of the year, he can go anywhere. He wants to play. He might wanna play somewhere else on top of that. I don't see another quarterback that that you're out there saying, okay. Well, this guy's not going to have a turnover problem. There's just no viable solution because they didn't solve. It's like the giants because the giants didn't pick a quarterback last. Traff. Now, they've put themselves into a corner. There's not a quarterback that that we know of right now certainly coming out that is going to be there for them in the draft. We we don't know. So I continue to come back to if not him then who and because I don't find an answer for then who on Jamie's I don't see a likely scenario where they move on to me it matters. And I'd have to go look at the stats to figure out. How many fewer games maybe cousin or more games in that? Because obviously James missed a couple of the suspension on that's part of that number two is that in a limited amount of time this season. He's already had so many turnovers and even in a limited amount of time in his career. But listen, I think your argument is a good one. It's what I used to always say with Jay Cutler. I was not a huge Cutler fan. But I often defended him because my argument was who are we getting are we getting someone in the draft. Who is it are we are we getting someone in a trade who because you can't just you're right say this guy trashy is gone and not have a viable replacement for them. And so I think your argument is a good one. But I to me you can't run the risk of putting him back out. There have him getting injured the on the on the hook for that. And not force yourself to go out there and make a change, and they need to find whatever motivation, or whenever impetus they can to be forced to make a change and not settle for this. Well, and obviously, it's not lost me. You're right that there's definitely a there's a disconnect with the rest of the. Guys on the field. There's a disconnect on James's ability to read the field, and that he makes decisions that just have you scratching your head and saying what the heck is he doing and I'll go back to Jeff Saturday this morning. Smartly talked about Jameson his future on golick and wingo. This is what he said, it is a defining moment for your franchise. You're either saying we're riding with Winston, no matter. What happens? He's our. Because if you put them back on the field, you are basically putting your franchise jeopardy financially because of the injury guarantee or you're saying, you know, Fitzpatrick's not the future of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. We're going to go a different direction where you're gonna draft one. We're gonna bring one in who's gonna come to be added door football team. And we're gonna move forward without Jane Winston, and in my opinion before after the suspension, I wouldn't have made him my quarterback. Yeah. And that's another thing is a lot of people were calling for him to not have the job even just after the suspension because he hasn't been worth it in terms of play and because of the optics of continuing to support a guy who has proven over and over again that he can't be trusted. Well, is there some piece of and yes, the cultural stuff aside as you and I've talked in the past. I I think the buccaneers already told you they're cool with that. They had a lot of opportunity to make a change based on that. And they didn't I will go back to one of the other things that I think stands out for Jamus is his age. I mean, the fact that he is young. And let's remember that Tom Brady between the ages of twenty four and twenty six which were here's his thirst. I three years starting had sixty two turnovers in forty seven games. So Tom Brady had a ton of turnovers early and as much as we want to turn the look at this turnover rate, and we want to say it's alarming. It's terrible. I still have to look at it and say, maybe as somebody gets older, they get better. Maybe. Nobody gets older they played better. There's going to be somebody that takes if if he's not in Tampa next year hands up somewhere. Right. I mean, I mean, that's how the NFL is somebody's going to believe they can change him. Right. They're gonna look at the physical ability and say there's enough good stuff in there that I can fix the bad decision making. We can have a culture that protects him from making bad decisions. And to me, that's just the way. That's the way that position works and that league works people get desperate, and that's not to speak to his talent though. That's the speak to desperation. I guess I continue to look, and maybe it's too capitalistic to constantly look at the money side of it. But when you look at the money side of contracts next year, the one of the interesting pieces of it to me or some of these quarterbacks that feels like the were sort of on the cusp of having to make a decision on whether it's Derek Carr case keenum Jameis Winston, Marcus mariota. Those are all guys right now that are paid between sixteen and twenty on the pay scale of quarterbacks in the NFL next year. So. It's hard for me to imagine changes being made in really what that change would be made for. I mean, unless you've fallen in love with the Nick foles, and somehow he finds his way out on the open market. I mean unless you fallen in love with the Tara Taylor. I just don't see a piece there. And that's the piece that will make me nervous. I don't think James. I gotta be clear about this. I don't think James should be the future. I just think that they're going to hold onto them for another year while they figure out what the heck they're doing because they're behind the eight ball and figuring out what their future should be. The only thing. I'll argue with you there. They are behind then you need to figure out some stretch of time where they can buy time until they figure out what's next if he's not going to be the future but doing it because of money to me is just digging a hole even deeper to say, we're okay with continuing to be bad because of this and continuing to settle for someone who is this terrible. And this unreliable is to say that it's worth it for this small piece of money to. The entire team. And to lose the other guys out there who are going out there every week and not believing in him, especially compared to the guy like Fitzpatrick last part of the problem. You don't wanna lose the rest of the guys on the team when you make it clear you're kind of just accepting that it's going to be another season. We're not going to compete. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. All of our guests on the shell Pennzoil performance line. By the way, Monday night football update. Twenty five yard field goal has the patriots taking a three nothing lead over the bills with five minutes left in the first quarter. What was the there was there was quite a spread on this game? It's that you decided to you know, better. Would cover. None of my flaps on in another little pool is for. And it was a thirteen and a half point spread I believe, but you know, what it's early. It's very early early Spain and Fitz here Spain and Jason Fitz with you, all guests. Join us on the shell Pennzoil performance line. Big day of NFL football yesterday and gamblers and fantasy players alike reacting to Todd Gurley causing him. One million dollar gambling swing in that. Rams win over the Packers. Final carry of the game. They end up getting the twenty nine to twenty seven win without a without about a minute left. He gets a huge third and ten they give it to money. Huge third and ten any converts any could easily easily stroll into the end zone, but very smartly. He decides not to score a touchdown at all not giving Aaron Rodgers and the Packers a chance to try to come back. There was nine point spread on that one. But they closed the seven and a half point favorite at most sports books. And so. That it affected the over. It affected spread it affected people's fantasy. And it also affected. Anyone who wanted to see Aaron Rodgers do what he does. Because fits he's completed sixty eight percent of his passes for ten point three yards per attempt. Six touchdowns and zero picks when trailing in the fourth quarter this season. Wow. I can say is a raiders fan. I have no idea what fourth quarter Tiffany looks. Like, I just I it is a bears fan that I've personally first hand witnessed some of that fourth quarter magic for darn Aaron Rodgers and do want to take second though and give Gurley a little bit of a shadow because as much as we've talked about the gambling aspect, and what it means in the fantasy aspect of what it means. There's sort of there's an intelligence and be a discipline that that plays shows you when a player can go out in that moment. And do what is against the natural tendency they've been doing their entire life, and they can be that smart in that moment that tells you that they're well. Well, coached well-disciplined it's a high disciplined team, obviously when you can be in that moment. And do what's unnatural, but is best for the NFL breast for your team? One hundred percent. He said after the game man forget fantasy and forget Vegas today. We got the winds. So that's all that matters. And in most leagues he's still got about twenty five and a half points, though, some brain in guys so greedy. But especially don't be greedy. When you consider that. That's smart play was critical to the Rams win. And on the other side of the ball. You saw the opposite. As the Packers gathered together and all according to all accounts in the huddle said to each other. You know, this is the plan we need to give Aaron Rodgers as much time as possible get a free play before the two minute warning. We'll have about two oh nine and the best quarterback on earth to try to make a game winning field goal. And instead returner time on Gumri disobeyed. What the coaches said didn't take a knee tried to run it off on the kickoff. Fumbled the ball. And here's what he said about that decision. Kicked the retirement where it was. At that point in time. So. Innocently thinking decision on. I don't know if they don't go line. So I'm not going to take on the goal line at the half yard line. Take a chance of putting putting the game in the resume. And you know, this is a guy claiming he didn't intentionally disobey them. He was just trying to make a play. But me thinks he doth protest too much, right? He's trying to explain all the different things that may it might have been on the half yard line might not have quite been wearing needed to be. Meanwhile, one of his teammates has told Mike silver that he was angry about the previous possession, actually. Sorry. A half a dozen players and coaches told silver that he was angry about a previous playthrough at tantrum on the sideline angry. He was taken out. And at least one thinks that he took the kickoff out of the end zone and disobeyed. What is coach said because of that anger that changes a lot? And if that's the case, I don't know how you move forward in that situation as a team. I mean, I've heard some conversation today about, you know, suspend him or whatever and they by the collective bargaining agreement. They can't do that. But you certainly can't play him. Right. I mean if he if he threw a tantrum when out. And then intentionally disobeyed the coaching staff and his teammates. And did what he felt like doing. Instead of what he was told to do. How can you trust him in any situation? Again, I mean days before the trade deadline. I'm looking at it saying, it does even have a home at this point. If he did that to the organization in that moment and denied the best player in the NFL the opportunity to do what he does best. How can you put him back on the field? Well, certainly sounds like at least one player on the Packers agrees with you from that NFL media, Mike silver story. The player said quote, they took him out for a play. And he slammed his helmet and threw a fit then before the kickoff. They told them to take a knee any ran it out. Anyway, you know, what that was that was him saying, I'm gonna do me. It's a bleep in joke. I mean what the bleep or you do. And we've got Aaron Rodgers the best I've ever seen and you're going to take that risk. I mean, it's twelve all you gotta do is give him the ball. And you know, what's going to happen? And that's the worst part of it. It's this isn't just any team and any guy making that decision. It's a team. That's got a guy who is known for making magic. Happen in games. Just like this any kept him from having a chance at it. Now, Mike McCarthy gave no indication that the Packers would actually cut Montgomery, but it's unclear if he's going to be the primary kickoff returner. So, you know, not a lot from McCarthy there, but you have to feel like there's going to be statement. Maybe they'll just follow the patriot way and bench for the first play of the game. Yeah. I mean as much as we joke. I I don't know that you can do anything that is too strong in this. I don't think there is a reaction in my mind that is too big to what he's done if in fact that is what he did. Right. I mean, if you got you got to know for sure, I suppose, right? But if he's on the sideline throwing a fit and if he's on the sideline throwing a tantrum. And then you're looking at it from Aaron Rodgers temple. And you're saying why would I trust the guy emotionally? And if you're the crazy when you got sixteen games, right? I mean, the next time Aaron Rodgers needs to go to him. How's he going to trust him? Right. And then the next time the coaching staff needs something from him. How will they trust them? Ryan Clark was on sports, and he talked about how selfish this plays KYW Montgomery was in his Phyllis. He was he got to the point where he was like, you know, what it's me over team. You have a guy like Aaron Rodgers. You know, what he's done already this season against the bears against the San Francisco forty Niners Jared Goff even had quotes about him being nervous because he knew it was the twelve so Ty Montgomery gets upset because he's taken out early. And he puts it on him and not the team, and you cannot make decisions for yourself in football. Yeah. And and three hundred Aaron Rodgers and you've already got enough trouble finding reasonable running backs. And then one of them is this guy. Ryan like how frustrated argue that you didn't even get a chance to try to win that game and it is selfish. And it's not just like like, you said you have to know that it was intentional. But if it was that's very different than just being boneheaded, and it's bad enough. If you if you sat in the huddle, and your coaches told you exactly what you do. And you didn't do it even if it wasn't intentional. It adds a whole nother layer one it's intentional. You also have to think about the long term ramifications of this because you mentioned earlier when we were doing good news bad news, the bears in how you know wing. Can put them all the way from last to first let's look at the NF NFC north. And remember the bear sit in first place at four and three the Packers. Now by by record in tiebreaker are sitting at three three and one that puts them in third place. And I realized that that's a staggering statement right now. But let's remember it's a game and a half difference because of the tie bright. So you're looking at the situation for the Packers where every single game is going to matter more because the NFC south the NFC north east so tightly compacted I mean, this this is much as you know, it was kind of Aaron Rodgers to say one play didn't lose a game. And he's right. It didn't. But it lost them the opportunity to win a game. It may have also lost them the opportunity to win a division. We won't know till the end of the year. And it's that tight. Yeah. And I mean as a bears fan, I was watching and thinking to myself, holy you know, what what's going on here. How do you as everybody in that stadium? Everybody watching on TV everybody who knows anything about football is probably tweeting the same thing at the same time. Right. Oh, left them too much time. Here comes Aaron Rodgers. Wait. What? So yeah, you're right with the NFC north as tight as it is. That's even more frustrating its benefits here. Spain and Jason Fitz with you little NBA note are boy Nick free L because the scape covering my. Chicago Bulls who are starting a collection of those wind sock at air people that are outside car dealerships in the warriors tonight should be good. Bye. Yeah. Exactly now, he's instead covering the best team in the NBA and right now that best team involving Klay. Thompson has eight sorry nine now first half made threes with a couple of minutes left in the first half against my Chicago Bulls single-game record thirteen by his teammates, Steph curry. Had six in the fourth quarter alone is going to be a bloodbath. And there will be record set tonight. I'm sorry. Sarah. You know, what just remember you had Jordan? All right. That's it. That's the only watch some kind of go to a VHS. Let me just set. My me my VCR back. Give me a minute here. It's made in bits. We're both back tomorrow. I college football playoff rankings are released. Freddie and Fitz Simons next on ESPN radio. Thanks for listening to Spain. And fits.

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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis Hr 4

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis Hr 4

"Morning. Why does your son know anything about NAS Keyshawn? I gotta give him a tutorial on is. That's insufficient. Daddy, and as my boy, reminding myself first of all he seven years old, and we don't play rap music and household like that filth going around your house. We don't that's not what we don't played it. When did Travis get here just saying, you know, we try to we try to limit. This is nice, man. We try to limit say two crew. Try to limit the hip hop as much as we can why you've got to Calabasas. I don't know if I like this. No, it's not that. It's just we try to limit it because he's a kid. We don't want him going around. Release the wrong time at the wrong time. We decided we raise our kids. You raise your kids. I feel you need to just. The problem with trying to tell them to raise their keys. I'm. You gotta live, Mike. I'm just trying to figure out why when I put up the picture of nausea was like who's that, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, that's black history month. But he knows who drank is, right. See? Yes. Yesterday. Kisha? He doesn't need to know oughta yesteryears are, you know? Yeah. Yeah. We don't even know history. Who is it that the key personnel? Anyway. And all this national amaretto day keys. Headline is presented by sprint cargo. Do cocktail Duda. Duda. Yacht doodle do so here's one with a dog day today. We have two great multiples sitting in the both named teddy. Both. Story behind that. But two dogs are in the studio. So. Seems like short story. Yes. Dog watching owner digs a grave for his pet because he thought that he was going to have to put him down based on assertion by the vet the vet told him. Hey, only has a few more ticks left. Any at this time you need to probably start preparing. So the dog in the owner goes to the back yard he digs the hole the dog is sitting here. And I'll give it to you are. So you can see it. The dog is the dog is sitting here. Looking at the owner digging the hole, you gotta see the face of war dog the dog's it's like damn. Like, you really gotta see remember that. How George remember when you had the whole? We were like he was he was in the pre Hispanic amount coming out the back of the Prius. Man. He had that look on his face because you dropped off Kristen Ireland. We had to do the digging a hole and you like, George George after dinner. I'm gonna take you by got this vineyard. I went to take you over there. You know to see the vineyard. And then we got out the car and he saw Chris digging a hole, and he was like damn outta messed up to worry about the home. The foundation of my house. Down there and see if it's deep enough for me. Just like the Bill thens. Exactly. You're listening. Los angeles. So then the vet goals the house rushes to the house, the tell the owner. No, no, no, no. No. No, no. I missed diagnosed with it was he's fine. The dog is literally sitting there next to the grave site. Just looking like they getting ready to put me in. So he's about to get buried alive. This dog. Down. It seemed like they were just ready to go there. I mean, there's no reason to dig the hole that quickly unless you're just preparing to use it. But I think he thought that the guy was getting ready to check out the dog Henry. Because when you put the animal down, they usually cremate any give you that's my own thought he was getting ready to pass away. So he. Just roll them over. No, not be rates up. I guess he's dog seems to know what's up dog seems very disconcerted by what's going on. Right. There doesn't look very happy. Does he no not at all? We had a fit. My daughter had a fish in our house that like slowly died for eight or nine months. He slowly this fish was on the verge of death for like eight or nine months, but never died until then so she's getting all upset and always asked me to check on the fish. And it looks like the fish is dead. But then I tap or, you know, take the net new start to fire. I started the toilet started the toilet with one of those fish. I mean, that's that's the procedure to fire them. There's not enough of the. Goldfish. But beta the beta fish, the fighters real fish. Yes. Yes. It's real fish. It's more like a large like me by something. Now, the fighting fish, the betas, those are real fish sounds like a school, my tried to fish tank thing that didn't work out. But like so for like eight or nine months, I bought a fish tank when I was playing I had a whole wall. Jan tuna big tune in there. No, I had a I had like a I want to say like fourteen hundred gallon fourteen hundred. Yeah, it was huge as a whole hell. So it was like a wall-sized court whole. That's always like if I ever had the true now, it's always a waste. Oh, I don't play literally everyday. They had to bring new Fisher fell like like free, Jeff because you couldn't take care of it. No. I had the guy come couple times a week did all, but they should just die die. Good. I would love to have one of those. That's like that's like always been like my big dream purchase. That was the big thing with athletes back, then is is get a fish tank. Yeah. Yeah. It is. It is. That I take in the wall of that year. Remember back in the day, we at the magazine together. Yes. Do what athlete at absolutely without walk into the house and go fish that you're of like cribs and all that stuff. Cribs? Purchase was always the wall Tang. I had the wall I'm telling you it was like fourteen hundred so be that's the mama made. Yes. The do used to have to go in in in go into the tank and deal with the little deals. Yes. Interesting. So Jon Gruden is looking to be hands on like your fish guy used to be. And according to CBS sports. They have been quote super impressed by twain Haskins state quarterback. And he's six threes to thirty got good size got good arm. Do you think key that could be where the raiders head with this? I don't know, you know, the fourth peak is a for the peak as a sweet spot for you. They can they can get a number of good players at the Ford spot without missing on. Anybody can take a quarterback for the lime and they can take the linebacker from Kentucky. It's a lot of good players in this draft at the fourth pigs. So the fourth pick has a lot of value. The fourth pick has as much value. The number one overall because if Arezzo doesn't take. Kyla Murray in ADA decide to trade out of it or do something different. Somebody's coming up to get. Both somebody's coming up. Quinton williams. Those type of teams or Sydney they're ready to willing deal to move up to that number one spot. But sitting at the fourth position. You could choose like I said you can go Quinn Williams. You can go both ask Kelly. You could go both. I mean you fluid four spot. It's fluid. You're gonna have a lot option. And so they're they're trying to drum it up to maximize the value of that particular pick. Because if the giants think that they're gonna take them in in Haskins their guy, the giants can screw it up like they deal with Jonathan organ back in the day in nineteen ninety six Dave Gettleman until you it's easy. I'm just telling you, I'm not gonna force pick. You can't draft for need. You'll get screwed every time you make you'll make a mistake. So here here's the need for the giants Ernie. You're the Ernie Coursey who was the general manager for a long time near in nineteen ninety six. There was two guys that was on their board that they he's he's taken the same approach that of course, he did myself in. And myself in Kevin hardy was at the top of the draft. We were like the two that was at the top of the draft, whatever they had a chance to select Johnson Auden, but they waited for Sedgwick Jones said gee, Cedric Jones. Actually, I don't even that Joel's defensive tackle from from Oklahoma. And you didn't even know I know the other three people you he I knew Kevin hardy is Jonathan Ogden fifth pick of the draft. They had an opportunity to move up to the four spot a get off the Augie. But they said no they thought he was gonna fall in lap. And they were stuck with Cedric Jones. I don't know when you take this don't draft need approach take divest of best available player. Well, let me especially to work out when you're a team like the giants, and you are literally all needs like you are in higher team full of need. Off on you got his running back. Right. That's it. Like what possible couple receivers? I mean, but you could use help pretty much everyone. So the idea of like not drafting for at that spot by definition. It's what you're going to be doing. Yes, right. That's wrong. That's crazy. That's crazy artist draft argument against picking of anti what the winning. Okay. Now, listen closely Keyshawn, you listening. Absolutely. It's go. All right. Can you guys? Name me the last ten Notre Bax. Oh to be drafted number one overall. And I guess the last ten quarterbacks drafted number one overall famous. Winston James Winston a big mistake. But Tampa beta right nineteen fifteen. He was drafted are in two thousand nineteen. A lot of reasons would not have been drafted in nineteen hundred. Yes. Grand new man. I'm gonna go with Halle Berry Halle Berry jerk off two thousand sixteen. Yes. That's right. Keyshawn? Do you understand the question? The last ten quarterbacks to be drafted number one overall. That's right. You don't want. It would be Cam Newton Cam Newton way back in two thousand eleven can you not loan jamarcus? Russell, dude. I say it was your turn. Isn't it? My turn. Yes. It is. Thousand seven. Yes. Jamarcus Russell the only number one pick overall number two never get a second chance and probably didn't serve elsia grant. Speaking of second chances how about Alex Smith knowledge Smith in two thousand or. The year. Nineteen the kiss. Sean Baker Mayfield Baker Mayfield. My number one. I told you very early in the year he'd be number one headman on I told you headband you serious. That's right. There are one two three four five quarterback five quarterbacks left. All of them are not this. You got this Andy ally. Manning many two thousand nine hundred ninety one actually is only three left now. That's how it works. I'm gonna go with his brother. Okay. Peyton minute. That's good. That was like. Yeah. That would be the on. Four bind to Matt Stafford net. Matthew, Stafford you should've got that your very own nosy in two thousand ten trying to get rid of them. He's out that whole thousand nine actually. Who else he is two more? Andy. Man, you got this really should be getting one of them. But that's not five four three two. Nearly one year on our Sean can get one. I don't need to know. I know I'm okay one has your damn name. Andy, Andy, look at you two thousand twelve and then Sam Rodman does that mean. The bill. Thank you. I do it again on your two time champion. Yeah. He's still here. Making the show. Terrorists out producing that one point when he took us to break. Get a great job. Dogs now in the seat. Let me make sure you ain't gonna Gumy's over there. No going back to dog doesn't have a little odd. He's just put a crown or you don't know Keyshawn band keeshonds got crown on his head right now. Everybody's heads coming off. Right. Part of rain Brown inside miss mental. Put this on my hair. Senate could be licensed hear anything. Host you that thing big win last night by the dodgers in Milwaukee off to a great start. Explain why this was so significant. The k pop continues, Eddie. Happy birthday Luhan. Yes. We on twenty nine years old member of Exo, apparently K E X. Oh, nothing says Good Friday. Like, the k pop sounds so. The university of North Carolina head coaching situation. Yeah, Sean, yes. And I was just giving him a hypothetical if you are a head coach of a basketball team and you play the historically black college Howard University. And then as a way to fire up your your team, you say if you don't start playing better you're going to be hanging from a tree in Nueces. Would you consider that to be racially insensitive? It is at minimum. Initially. But it's not how university of said is to opponent the opponent the coach really opponent trying to fire up her team told them if they don't start playing. They're gonna hanging from trees and nooses is it a another black school university of North Carolina. Oh. Changes everything. I mean, even if it was even if it was grambling state plan Howard, you a little bit little pet, but but I kind of could kinda would be able to understand I guess. Brat. My head around it if it was two black schools, right? And this was coming from a black coat cones and just telling them like, yeah. If you know, this is how you treat it back in the day, blah, blah, blah. But coming from new in see I write coach at the university plan. Good old girl whose job. She just resigned exciting things. The basketball basketball is giving a lot to me. And this time I step away. Uh-huh. That's what she's yeah. She's getting older. It's in the brain the plane. Yeah. You know, when people get older they start saying stuff, by the way, the joke that writes itself the statement about her stepping down what's written by AD. Bubba cunningham. Of course, like, that's. So I guess to quit, man. So. Bubba Cunningham does not as they not as tolerant as. Unchanged. She started coaching there. Nineteen eighty six older out on told you Michael Jordan change things round here. That Michael Jordan. Michael, jordan. They let him do too much. Told you one two minutes. I have I have talked ROY when he was here. Now, I'm telling you now. Same thing with dean dean was in Tokyo. He's he came running. T. That's just enough. Now hit listen here. Now, latest y'all star playing better younger hanging from trees and news is now told you. Told you. Consequences. After playing how're reprecussions yourself. Prayed heavy played Duke. I would have been going. Well, it was trying to turn a phrase she'd been meeting they play Howard, man. No. Even if she okay. The problem is I'm sure. A mix basketball team. Yes. Of course, in his black ladies that are sitting in the yes, what made you think? It's. Okay. Black or white to say that in FICO. It's nothing another. L z. Now, we're talking about this during the break, like even if you wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt, Sylvia hatch all the coach for UNC women's basketball. Let's say you wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt that it was awkward phrasing that in her mind had no racial undertones whatsoever. Pay stretch stretch. So let's just say defies state of Carolina as a strength. Yes. With under Bubba Cunningham. And this woman she's been coaching there for like forty years. But let's say for the sake of argument part of your job is self awareness education is education and self awareness, like part of your role is being responsible for your words, and understanding how they could be interpreted it it's so funny in in life as I've been on the show in for three years, we talk about so much in and so much that we talk about I can take back to my own life and being in a locker room at halftime in. This was at a time. Time where if you were openly gay or gay or whatever the case may be it was like a young do like me. I'm like, you know, he's whatever, you know. But I knew at a young age at halftime of a game. We had a coach tell us if we didn't play, you know, y'all plan like a bunch of f words in. I knew you know, f word I knew I knew that it was derogatory and what it meant. So we looked at him. Seriously. He all I'm saying where now today being a little more educated and understanding at that point all out of the. Yeah. What's today? Oughta went to the AD and told AD the heartbeat and Bubba would say you guys go now. Came to us. Whereas, no, yeah. Yeah. Exactly is this ham. Shame. Damn saying the camp, but you are Carolina. Countries. Just change a man we can do about it. That's why we're name tarheels moving on. So dodgers big win over the brewers. Three one. Areas. Six innings nine strikeouts. No runs giving up just one hit. But what else about was significant about it beyond Cody bellinger's continuing to kill it. Their first road win against a good team. Like, they went up against Milwaukee and beat them. This is coming an ends a five game losing streak. But specifically they were getting beat on the road against good teams. I got swept by Saint Louis in Saint Louis. This is something they needed to do. Well, the reason why got swept by Saint Louis. Exact same reason I was concerned in the Opie series against the D-Backs pitching. We were giving up tons and tons of runs and it didn't matter if it was a good team bad team or at home on the road. When you're giving up consistently five six seven eight earned runs a cave. I don't care. That wasn't a cough. Oh, my throat complete clear. Good did a stutter. It was more. Like, a an aside. Stutter go have audible. Have you ever done? No, okay. But the point is is that I understand this -nificant of beating a good team on the road. But the issues in terms of the earn runs that we were just kind of giving away basically has been solved. So when you're pitching, well, and you holding opponents to two and one run the game. He doesn't matter. If it's same car news, the D bags or in this case the brewers if you're pitching there, you're not to worry about trying to get all those home runs. We overlook. The fact pitchy wasn't quite ready because we start off so hot at the plate. We weren't hot at the plate last night, but are pitching the site and that site yourself. He was going do. It looked shark. They looked really sharp in this game and odious. Ross stripling taking the mound the night. He's he's been pitching. Really? Well, like they need to get that rotation. Look in the way it's supposed to Walker. Buehler. Got off to a bit of a slow start. We still haven't seen everything from Clayton Kershaw this year. Richhill hasn't been available like they they need to get that rotation solidified and performances like orios last night in till they get to that point that go along way. I gotta watch my son in here with them. But yeah, I think the dodgers are off to a start that we felt like they would be at coming into this coming out of spring bats are alive pitching. His will. Everybody's hitting on all cylinders. What are you doing man? Yeah. Because you know, what to do? And there's no telling bad in front, exactly. Teaching them. Good things here. I don't understand. Why are you so upset because I trust you? I don't I thought you would trust. No, not you, of course choice. Yeah. Shave shaking. He doesn't like we do shag. Like shaggy you just knew thicker than him. You kind of. You got to kind of. Yeah. You just go sleep like Harry Potter, let himself go. I just don't do a magic to. Check. Stop harry. Off the grid. The problem with Jackie is we've been trying to give them Rausing his wisdom and white want to do these rejecting. I've seen him. Do it cost him in the long run that he's listening to short run to interning years. Been a real eye opening experience. You gotta get the water, brother. Got gotta get the water out of customers. This imagine fifteen years from now. When those videos resurface of you. Most likely I'll be dead. So. Feels like I say that those videos, so you know, how they do that. We'll get Chris having a meltdown in the studio. Male twenty four thirty. Let's move on. Coming. Oh, okay. That's fine. That that'd be great. Tell us in the pre production meeting, but we call it pre production. What are you doing for Easter can have a big shift key thing? Oh, we never did. We are key yesterday. The open hit. Audible here. And it's the first night of Passover tonight. So Andy, happy Passover. Anyway, happy. What's your Easter dinner going to get I don't know Easter dinner? What are you gonna make Sunday night won't make anything? I'm gonna say how about Sunday we got four minutes. What are you waiting for Good Friday Friday night dinner whose house to your friends? I don't remember the name on the air. To Friday in my household growing up. It will Friday was fish. It was it was it was fish Friday, and my mom would make catfish buffalo fish. No. You're gonna ask me what buffalo fans. It before, you know, every now, and then if you had enough money live about this, some fry shrimp, you know, obviously, the potatoes we got real Idaho potatoes ahead. Okay. Don't pick this up side. Retold your kid about the emojis? He picking up big any moldy stop. We will get the real Idaho potatoes. And we would cut them up in make French fries out of. So I would say it's a fish Friday. You can get you some oil stors fry up. You can get you some cafe ish fried up rant snapper frying up. Are you doing spaghetti with? No, just some garlic bread into the talian lettuce tomato salad with cucumbers, garlic cheese bread or healthy now. No, no, no. We did. We had lettuce tomato cucumber with an wishbone Italian dress. And we had the catfish buffalo fish, some shrimp and garlic Brit. So what is he going to eat? What would Vance because he's of what do you want these vegan dinner? Yeah. Like Sawyer anyway key. So what would you guys do back in your house for Easter Sunday dinner Easter Sunday, we would? I don't remember ham house at the church. I guess okay. Yeah. Yeah. It would be whatever the spaghetti like l z was saying at the church they have. Yes. Beget jetty. This kid seems like that. She worried about never mind you hanging around my house. Riester Sunday is a talent. So I gotta work on getting the Italian sausage ready tonight. Sweet an hot you get both. I don't like the sweet Italian sausage the spice. Ribs. I'm smoking some re working on ribs. Hi, sean. Making a brisket actually making a brisket. I didn't think you were really religious not real. I'm not really religious kind of fake eat. No. You know, what it is? It's culturally. I want my daughter exposed to Judaism, the religious like super religious observant part of it. Oh, yeah. Oh, totally. So right. I I don't know if it starts tonight or starts tomorrow night the way you're supposed to be. About my poll we had earlier, please. Do you get lit on? Is it okay? To get lit on Easter like to get. I mean, look, it's okay. For me. I'm not the one observing holiday. I saying. I gave up alcohol for win. So I for Sunday. Yeah. So we're going to be having a Sater tomorrow. My family with Brian ask him for the rest of the poll. I thought that was the the results. Oh, sorry. Yes. I think it's okay. Okay. I don't have the results. Producing possible Wild Wings, wings, beer, sports. So what are you doing your brother? We're gonna have Seder tomorrow night at our place, and we make an briskets mozza ball soup. Some lot goes those potato pancakes for those now. Yes, right. Sour cream thing. Played out there dated quite a few Jewish minimum all about the sater's sater's spun the Seder's good Eaton Eaton. I mean, but I always knew I was going last. There's no spice. There's no. Yeah. Can be doing with my life. It's it's a little bland the food. What is this the one? We leave the door open for Elijah. Yeah. You're LIZA on no trail here. Just a little bit adrenaline a little bit. Yeah. Food is bland at the create ju- Jewish food troll. But that's kind of bland like I'll make folks engine or though. No. But I mean specific right. Gonna tell you the way Spain's. This is really a Jewish thing. I mean like tradition last. Yeah. Pretty bland. Who'd see see when you start saying talion white food is slowdown though. Yes. That is true. But the -talian making cook. They know what to do. Friends is really the food of lights to cook. It's really the food. Like like England's food is kind of bland Irish food is cuddle and to be actually. Suburb food used to be really spicy. I was I was very Brady English a lot of bread. So I got I got a lot of a lot of friends is probably about. Four of three to four of them. I would go to their house and actually eat when I'll ask them to order some care if they listen on the radio, not figure look at each other and figuring out at you're probably think the same thing, you know, some of his about three or four of them. I could actually sit down when they cook in eat you arrest, they go out and order. Obviously if I if I made the Mielke you'd like I don't I don't cook. That bland for myself. I'm just talking about traditionally a lot of Jewish food is bland. But when I make it it's got some because you got some the Tino, our remember personal prior to my mom passing away helps couple years prior to pass away. She started shift in how she cooked their food be so bullying. Mommy some morning. You put she used to get mad when we put hot sauce on. And I'm like, you have no seasoning in it right now. For thirty seven years. You fed me, pork, fried Lord. So. Well. So she's in all of a sudden you want everything to be nice and light speaking of enlighten enlightenment walks on the clock. They're gonna be drafting Keyshawn is gonna put on his GM hat. Give them some advice. Coming up next. There you go. Welcome to the Los Angeles, the USC Trojans take on the Washington. Huskies here today. Heavy birthday detroi- Paula Malo, thirty eight years young today. Troy played a very long time in the National Football League surefire hall of Famer was one of the toughest safeties that ever played in the pros go no ran buying like he was standing still multiple times with the Steelers higher career. With Steelers is good though. He was a beast. He's still got that hair. I haven't seen Troyon awhile. Jesse retired. I'm sure you still has hair though, that's a signature that Duke look hit. He was a how would you know? You ain't never got hit by you know, but you could see it, man. Some guys you can just tell even over the TV choice about your size. Well, he's a little guessing a little bitty. No, what are you about one seventy five? No, height wise. Five eight Troy might have been five seven five ten arrays talking that. Yeah. He might he might have been a five chain guy is good day is brought to you by Jaguar Land Rover. Newport Beach off the Seventy-three towards the sea. Visit Land Rover Newport Beach dot com. Land Rover above and beyond bucks are on the clock key put on your GM hat. Tell them what they ought to be doing. It's right in GM keys, presented this draft season by USC Marshall school of business executive education. You're partners in lifelong learning, and you can go to USC executive education dot com for our professional development program. I probably should consider it. You should I should actually keep today out. You should have another thing lined up. I want to get on the clock. Don't listen to this. Do I don't. Okay, here we go. Let's go. You wanna hit the opening we already did we do this? Every time the books on the first of all, what do you think that you do that? Eighteen hundred going to do with James gimme one at a time. Well, here's what I would say they got a new coach Bruce Aaron's. So that's a plus Dr Carter no longer Tampa Bay. He's out. Thank god. James Winston can grow under Bruce Aaron's, which is a quarterback whisper amongst a lot of NFL folk who think he's one of the better guys from an office standpoint, they can get your career going into right direction at the quarterback spot. I think James Winston on a one year deal twenty plus million dollars proves itself. Midway through the year. He'll get a long term deal in he'll be buck nears quarterback for the future. You think? So I think so absolutely. Even with all the ups and downs. Even with everything that's going on with Winston, you still think he's their guy. He's their guy the future and the fifth year option at twenty plus million dollars. This is a tryout year for him midway through the year. If he if he does what they think he can do on the Bruce Aaron's, they'll be extending him, a long term, you think it's going to be more just because he's going to be developing as a quarterback the way would be any way or really aeriens is going to be able to get the best out of what Aaron's it can get the best. But he's also more mature he's a little older. You know, he's he's been in the situation before he knows? I'm just gonna say player is as a player he would become more mature he's older now. So when unconcerned with paying him for his immaturity off the off the field. No. You know, you haven't we say Jan Johnson. Every year stuff is year becomes more mature that stuff is in his Pat the year of you've got a new coach you got a new coach in here that is is going to take a liking to him or not take into is. He does everything he's supposed to do in the all season into the summer, and they're winning football. And he's doing these supposed to do. They're going to give him a long term extension. They didn't part ways with the USA felt a certain way about him on the football Siriraj or the off the field side. They wouldn't have given him a twenty million dollar option. Plus, they just wouldn't have done it. I say weird to have a QB that you're prepared to give a big money to while also him being a make or break year in the same. Well. If he's if he's guaranteed to make the extension. This isn't a make or break year. He's already. He's only guaranteed to make the get the extension. If it works out with the with the new head coach Bruce Arians, they brought in an offense a minded coach does well with quarterbacks much like the Rams deal with Sean McVeigh bringing him in the fixture golf and we're talking about geography now becoming one of the top five highest paid quarterbacks in the league. This conversation will happen. James Winston does his job on the football different. He was one sample size. That would make you doubt James Winston in terms of you know, being your long-term guy than there had been with Jared Goff. Jared Goff had a bad rookie season before McVeigh. But that was literally all you had seen James Winston has had if up and down five years in Tampa Bay with three or four different offense coordinators. This is his fourth head coach. So, you know, you gotta you gotta look at everything you can't just look at he took some crabs and all of a sudden, we don't. Like him anymore, grabs being finish them? Did they take it from him? He says he in whatever move along terrible. What do you what do you think they do in the draft in the first round at the fifth pick? I think they take the linebacker out of LSU in. I think they need help in the middle of the field on the defensive side of the ball. So I think when you look at that very well could move out of the fifth spot and get the quarterback some help offensively. They lose the schon Jackson in trade your signed Jackson to Philadelphia because it wasn't working out in Tampa Bay. They also got rid of that Humphries walk out the door believe he signed in buffalo as a big money free agent. So they lost two guys office aside a ball that they desperately need if you want to develop this quarterback. So thank you, very well trade out of the fifth smut, but they can also take Devon white the linebacker the way you're describing this. You wonder if even Bruce Arians if he can get through to Jameis Winston if he has enough tools around actually succeed the way that one them too. I think we got you know, they have Mike Evans big time receiver they need something speed due to go apposite him. The running back position is pretty safe and solid for him. I think when you look at an offense a mining coach one the first things he's gonna wanna do is surround his qu. Quarterback with the best talent to give him the best chance and opportunity to win. The thing. I finally interesting is watching or watching to see Bruce Arians can actually connect with James Wednesday BRUCE'S, sixty six to seven years old. With the candles and stuff swagger with it. But it's gonna be interesting to see if if he's also got understand who's the quarterback coach quarterback coaches Byron left, which who is he. Yes by left with he still. Gary coleman. But. He's the quarterback coach. So when you talking about, okay? So he's gotta go between being able to Kate. And see you got somebody that been a yo position. Just like you. Right. So handle that for me. Bre it's he knows what he's doing. That's why we start talking about extension and money. It's a huge thing. That kangol though goes a long way. Swag is going to say when it comes to relating to the younger players Utah. He put a kangol on all of a sudden, I mean by NFL coaching standard, you pretty woke just with the kangol. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're what it used to be on ESPN as an analyst. You know, where he was sitting chair just made me feel like, okay you. Oh, yeah. He's cool. Yeah. You might p Carol pekair come to the barbecue. Bruce and comes at a barbecue. Now, don't bring food you come and eat and went, okay. If he goes to the barbecue, though, shoot he wear the kangol or is that trying to art where to do? Trying to trying to the number two pick. I think if they stay at one and they take a linebacker. Now you start to look on the offense aside of ball the receiver position. They got the big tidying. You know, you start to look at. How can I get James winsome help it to in three at three? You get off into lime in the protect because you wanna sure up that in their four five in seven you pick for knee pick for best available at that point. Because it's such a deep draft the knee portions is one through three four to seven net that point who's best available. What is the expectation for them in terms of wins and losses this season? Even you know, given what you're talking about of the draft. Just what's a healthy expectation for a batter? Jane is Winston and a coach returning from being out of the league for like a year or two Dave Gettleman had some thoughts that with the giants. I'm just telling you. I'm not gonna force pick. You can't draft for need. You'll get screwed every time you may. You make you'll make a mistake. Well, that's not true. It's not it's not true. I didn't you didn't set up for me to say. But you're talking about you don't draft a neat. And then that's not true. You draft me in drafting four draft. Traffic but need unless you are a team that does not need something. Then you take the best in the. New york. Giants Reed players. A stack team. You still have relative needs me. Do you guys? Think kisha gets you real quick for we bring Danny green was notorious for drafting best player like he's they didn't need. Randy moss. He's like I took him. Anyway. Yeah. But at this spot, see, I if you were listening, I said, listen certain teams in certain situations. The giants they're in a need position. Not a best available position. Where in the Tampa Bay buccaneer days with us we were in the best available not in need because we didn't need anything. We didn't need anything. We was deep it every position. But if something came bailable in the twenties that made sense, you go you're right, but gallop talking about I'm not going to draft the knee. I'm gonna drive best vital. Okay. You go. Right ahead. You really smart? If you're looking at the giants saying, we don't have needs. You're already losing credibility that that all that team is is needs. All right. So you over to my son. Got to watch because you corrupt his brain stuff. Teaching radio is an understatement. I don't want my child next to Chris Morales. No like you. Probably don't want. Yours. Yours grown. Mine has grown. I student want him anyway in a room. No trust horror. Hey, trust the intern. And then after that as a clip, yes. The drop off from shaggy to Raj. Although I still had wrong. I still have Rosh ahead of Chris. Ever have to. Yes. Last man standing. Yes. Yes. If you're going to go through like, the, you know, the best of bad decisions like the best of bad options. I will put Raja Chris. All right coming up. There is stop me. If you've heard this before more dysfunction and distrust with the raiders, according with that is coming up next is the ill Matic that you requested. This is not the ill matter that I request. They had they had seven minutes this kid sitting here talking about somebody else and stuff like that. Seven minutes last hour ago. So I didn't play it is that what it is. That's why you're anti NAS. You know magic was released today. No-one cares. Twenty five years ill Matic big play that kind of stuff. The that is still considered one of the top ten greatest. Hip hop time. Still got even have a little nostril for you. The very first song of his was on the zebra has soundtrack. Oh, which you are which my film debut. This. You did. About it. Forever. Rappaport, l z Granderson nice. Listen, turn out quite as well as the other. That's a terrible thing to say. A horrible thing to say about Michael Rapaport? All right. So Ian Rapoport with the NFL network part. No in rapid. His name. He's brother NFL dot com. Network tweeted, outsources, raiders coach Jon Gruden and GM Mike Mayock sent their scouts home for the weekend. And they are not expected to return. My draft time the belief is they don't know who to trust and wanted to clear the room. So clown are man hold on clown. Share telling me the people that have been hired to help you disseminate. The town of going to draft have all been kicked out because people in charge aren't sure which these people they can trust. I don't know if they mean, you can't trust them not to leak it. You can't trust their perspective. You just can't trust them. How do we know this? I guess Jon Gruden sized up who's trustable, and who isn't Novem. How do we have this story from in rap songs leaked? Yes. Yes. That's a great point. So the story's been leaked about how Jon Gruden things might be a leaked and everyone's leaking all over the place. Look, man. I if you are this paranoid about leaks. I think as a person it's because you know. Yeah. I like a lot of stuff. So everybody else must go like me leaking. I can't wait to get to the raiders chapter in the Miller report. To see what Jon Gruden has been doing like, keep tease out of the press. The word on the street is he's a horrible poker player. What that means that draft time is you kind of leak things that you want other teams that think you're doing what you really don't and Jon Gruden doesn't do it. He does. He can't bluff. He's too enthusiastic about everything. Like everything. Listen, the Caspian, Los Angeles. Is a massive deal that he asked to look really excited about so when he's actually excited he doesn't seem like somebody who can actually keep it under wraps and not shows whole cards so to speak. Well, this is gonna be fun. Oh, it's it's always entertaining with John John gruden's, the shadow GM, George keeps talking about for the Lakers. You know, what it would be questions? Yes. No questions do the raiders trade to pick. Yes. Or no. No, no. Do they draft a quarterback? Yes. Or no. Yes. Wow. Who we did at the same time? We didn't rehearse a nethon, absolutely.

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Power Rankings re-organization, the Bears turn to Chase Daniel, Freddie Kitchens Redemption, and Frank Gore's legend grows

The MMQB Podcast with Peter King

18:20 min | 1 year ago

Power Rankings re-organization, the Bears turn to Chase Daniel, Freddie Kitchens Redemption, and Frank Gore's legend grows

"Hi everybody everybody this. Peter King want to welcome you to my mini pod my kind of short football morning in America podcast. I it's used as an accompaniment to my football morning in America column on NBC Sports Dot Com and it profootballtalk dot com and if you follow this podcast you know that what I usually do is read the lead to my column and then I read several segments of my column and I always end it with a do Haiku that I have every week in my column so without further. Ado I'm going to just sort of tell you a little bit about my column this week. I had had no intention of writing very much at all about the games per se this week. I was going to do a one to thirty two ranking of of the teams after one quarter of the season in May what I had done was I had ranked teams from one to thirty two and so I wanted to do it again and soya included in my rankings where I had every team in. May You have them now and I'll get to that in a moment but first or a couple of things that happen during the Games on Sunday that made them. made me want to write about them. they were both in the late window games one was about James Winston and and the game he had with the bucks putting fifty five points up on the Los Angeles Rams on the road and then the other one was chased Daniel Daniel Chase Daniel's such an interesting story backup his whole career. He's only started four games you know in his ten then seasons in the NFL so now here he is early in his eleven th year and I ended up writing about both both Winston and Chase Daniel so I'll tell you a little bit about that then. I'll tell you about my rankings and get into my column a little bit so here we go the the lead to football morning America week four in two thousand and nineteen football needed week four. It was getting a little too easy for the Patriots in the chiefs. The Rams Green Bay Detroit Dallas and Buffalo hadn't lost ost yet and you know how the NFL likes to pull the good teams to the middle. There was a lot of polling this weekend. Are topers not even here yet the NFL has only three unbeaten teams left New England and Kansas City both foreign oh in the three and San Francisco Forty niners after this weekend of upheaval all do the exercise it inflames the masses even more than coffee. nerdiness hall ranked the teams one to thirty two a quarter of the way through the season. What interested me about this weekend. How many indepth players forgotten players emerging players ruled the weekend such as cornerback. JC Jackson of the Patriot tree it had two interceptions and a blocked punt return touchdown in New England surprisingly hard sixteen to ten win at Buffalo for a day. The undrafted kid from Maryland was the best player on the best team in football running back. Nick Chubb Not Not Odell or Baker Miles was the difference in the stunning Brown's route of the Ravens in Baltimore. I didn't didn't know Chub was a legit sprinter until I saw his eighty. Rtd Sprint that broke open the game Chicago backup quarterback Chase Daniel who has started four games in come feet ten year career so Mitchell trubisky get hurt ten feet feet away from him three minutes into the Minnesota game Sunday no time to warm up just time to lead the bears. There's on an immediate touchdown drive and ultimately win the game for Awhile Anyway. It's Daniels job now with trubisky out indefinitely the with the left left shoulder injury. New Orleans backup quarterback Teddy Bridgewater was unspectacular but he won his second in a row over Dallas in relief of drew brees the two thousand fifteen one to draft twins Jameis Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota had stunning road victories. The careers of both are on the line in this last year before they could be eligible for free agency. Winston put up fifty five points shocked the Rams Mario to beat the Falcons by fourteen eighteen Frank Gore thirty six became the fourth back in history to rush for fifteen thousand yards and he did it on a thirty eight yard run against the best defense in football new England's. Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes in Jared Goff often zeke Elliot and Dak Prescott Matt Ryan and to Shawn Watson and Lamar Jackson did not star Sunday mahomes went touchdown Lewis in fact so this morning thirteen teams are two into including everyone in the AFC south. Both is I watch football Sunday with great teams and the great players struggling in so many games. I thought that's part of what makes it fun. When I spoke with Chase Daniel Sunday night he's never really had his fifteen minutes of fame in a Benji decade in the NFL. I said isn't this. What makes this fun. The unpredictability of it all Daniel who turns thirty thirty three next week was standing near coach Matt Nagy early in the first quarter helping with personnel groups like he always does in front of him on a third-down Entre Bisky got sacked. The starting quarterback for the bears tried to get up twice he couldn't. I thought it might be a concussion. Daniel said medic's INEGI checked on trubisky. Daniel figured he'd better start throwing chase. You're in Nagy said to him. Seconds Atkins later because it had been third down. Daniel started throwing practice squad. QB Taylor Bray as Trubisky came off but he missed the penalty flag on Minnesota giving the bears of fresh set of downs. No no of voice yield. We got the ball year in now the life of a backup huge division game between two two and one teams no time to warm up. Mitch and I threw before for the game and not much time pass away felt pretty good. Daniel told me it was fine. You're excited of course and it happens all of a sudden but matt. It was like you know the offense. Just go out and be you. He was super positive the whole game on the first series on fourth in one from the Viking forty-three. Nagy called a sneak for Daniel who liked the faith his coach Adnan him to get a first down. He got it. Daniel really liked it. When Nagy on first down for the Viking thirty called deep throw down the left side for Allen Robinson everyone during the week in the quarterback room thought it was a perfect call against the Minnesota defense sure that Robinson could be the coverage and he did. I never ripped it in practice. Daniel said but I love the call. We felt like it to be a touchdown. Robinson made it to the five and after after five yard flag for a false start Daniel led to Rico in with the past just over the line and Cohen did the rest the bears were on their away and Daniel Twenty to thirty one hundred and ninety five yards one. Td No picks was a huge reason. I'm I'm about to turn thirty three. Daniel said and I've been in at eleven years now but I feel like I'm twenty five and I love this offense. I I feel the offense. This is my fifth or sixth year in it. I was in Kansas City in Philadelphia and it's basically the same offense very quarterback friendly the quarterbacks a point guard out there. I've always felt that I was an accurate passer and not just dinkum dunk. We took some shots out there today that shot to Robinson on the first drive and others and now the rains of a very good team are Daniels. This is the first time in his life he's been handing them for an. NFL team came to quarterback for any length of time and he's in a weird spot. He had become good friends. Daniel helps them ide- coverages averages and trends between series during games and he knows trubisky has had his struggles but in Daniels position none of that matters now now. He's playing till they take off the field. I think Matt feels comfortable. Call in a game with me. Daniel said anytime you get a chance to play at least as for me. It's a great opportunity especially with this defense. I'm thinking be aggressive but take care of the football all the other stuff. I'm I'm aware of all the talk going on around town and how outsiders view us but I don't care about it for now. All I care about is going to London and keep the main thing the main thing worry about winning a game before our by so. That's my the lead of my column got some stuff now by James Winston but I'm GonNa get to the part of the column that I told you about a few minutes ago where I ranked the teams one thirty two the way I do. This basically is just. It's an absolute gut feeling. It's is not scientific at all my one through six right. Now I give you my my my one through seven actually number one new linguine number to Kansas City number three the rams number four New Orleans number five Dallas Number six Chicago number seven San Francisco and just for fun. I'll give you eight nine and ten Philadelphia eight Green Bay nine Seattle ten. It was a fun exercise but it's an exercise that you know for instance. I have the AFC south all bunched up because honestly. I don't know if Indianapolis is I fourth. I mean I rated him. Seventeen eighteen twenty twenty one indianapolis Houston Jacksonville Tennessee but really that is just absolutely you know throwing darts at that thing. Because how really would you know that they just they just beat each other up quite honestly. I wrote some stuff in here this week about the London Games which start next week in the future of this talking talking a little bit about China little about Germany and Australia and just probably the the the the NFL right now is thinking about again in two thousand twenty having four games in England quite possibly another game somewhere else. They're talking a to authorities in Mexico now to extend that series they will have the chargers the chiefs in in Mexico City in the middle of November so that ought to be fun. I did my players of the week three running backs of the offensive players players of the week Leonard Fournette Nick Chub and Frank Gore really happy for Gore. He's such a football lifer and now he's two hundred forty eight yards away from pair from passing Berry Sanders and if he does he'd be third on the all-time rushing list amazing seeing that he's still doing this at thirty eight my coach of the week this week is Freddie Kitchens for basically Siklie keeping Cleveland from falling off a cliff in a very very weird couple of weeks the profile section my column this week. I think you really like it. It's Larry Fitzgerald kind of talking smart and mature in how the grass this is not always greener on the other side really enjoyed spending some time talking to him about this. You know if you read my column closely. You'll notice that I have this thing in there this fall called the NFL century in which I write about some a portion of NFL history and this one was really really interesting to me because I did an oral history with with one guy on with Thomas Morstead of the New Orleans Saints about the onside kick that the saints recovered to start the the second half in the Super Bowl ten years ago and I gotTa tell. You morstead open up a vein and really bled talking about that's so I think you'll really really enjoy it. It's about halfway down in the column. Maybe a little bit farther this week. Yeah I run a few of your letters this week which you'll see and then one of the things I did in I I when I talk about my non-football thoughts in number ten. I basically give my what I would have voted for all of the awards in baseball so I'll give you a few of those my MVP's would be Alex Bregman in in the American league and Cody bellinger in the National League Cy Young Award. I Have Justin verlander beating out coal and Morton in the American League Jacob degrom would win in the National League. Keep in mind. I do not have a vote. This is just oh for giggles for me my. Al Rookie is Yordan Alvarez of Houston a I- NFL rookie is Pete Alonzo. That's not a very tough choice my managers of the year or Aaron Boone the Yankees and Brian Ryan snicker the Atlanta Braves and you know I'm a I'm a big baseball fan. It's what I spend time doing a Lotta times and watching you know especially early in the week when I'm not very you know as as micro involved with football as I used to be so I watch a lot of baseball even games that are not with my team which is Boston and become a little bit of a fan of of the Astros quite honestly I love watching springer and Al to Vais and Bregman and I just think they're really good team going to be good for a long long time my Ado Haiku this week. It's cool when a career backup gets his shot good luck chase Daniel Daniel listen. I hope everybody has a great week at work or wherever you are whatever you're going to be doing if you have avenue response or any opinions about this podcast or about my column you can send them to me at. Peter King F. M. I. A. Uh at gmail.com that's Peter King at FM A G MAIL DOT COM hope y'all have a great week and I look forward forward to seeing you right back here next week.

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Fitzmagic v Jameis

Outside the Lines

23:22 min | 3 years ago

Fitzmagic v Jameis

"My name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking mom. My first experience with jewel. I do remember being like distance, good. It's it's it's like a cigarette, but not. I don't miss smoking at all. Like I can officially say it grosses me out jewel is the tobacco alternative that delivers nicotine satisfaction without cigarette Asher lingering odor make the switch and j. u. l. dot com. Slash sports warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. It's magic is alive and well. Did you miss Jaimes? Winston comes back to an uncertain quarterback depth chart focused on the red clay. We don't. We don't know one of those game. All signs point towards Jalen hurts playing that will end to the question about him. Redshirt in the season juxtapose Abbas Kelly Bryant. There's not a guy that's more committed to this program caliber. Kelly, Bryant will transfer. Would you animal? The drummer from the Muppets could stake. Give it up for Brady. What you see change your perception, any sporting event. Welcome to apps on the lines. I'm bomb lead decision time at least publicly is looming for the two one Tampa Bay Buccaneers a choice between a young question Mark and a veteran exclamation point, the unquestioned Mark. James Winston. And the question is, what is his future with this team? They're big story on the final Wednesday, September from studios e James Winstons three-game NFL personal conduct suspension ended yesterday, and he's back to work after sitting out these first three games for sexually touching an Uber driver. This incident occurring some two and a half years ago. Speaking of the time space continuum Winston only twenty four in his fourth season says, he's now sober important factor, perhaps considering the trail of conduct questions that have littered Winstons history going back to his time at Florida state. The veteran exclamation point is Ryan Fitzpatrick whose fits magic ran out Monday against the Steelers, three interceptions, three TV performance, which to some characterize. Fourteen year career episodes of marvelous promise and performance for variety of teams that eventually crash on the rocks reality. He's yet to ever play in a playoff game just over an hour ago with that major decision publicly, at least hanging fire over the bucks. Winston back on the team. Guess did you miss me. I'm here. This is the best way I possibly care. You know, my my passion for this team. I love this team goes beyond or I'm out there doing the football for this team, not you know, like I said, it's my first day back. Let me enjoy that. I has any more questions about debt man. Well, let's consider all of that Dominic Foxworth of the undefeated. NFL veteran. Okay. It's great to be back, but cutter apparently has made a decision whether he's told the quarterbacks, we don't know there's want barest. What do you make of all this. Yeah. I mean, it's an interesting drama that we have going here, but I think the wise move is probably stick with Fitzpatrick for this week and then stocked install bring James back when they have a buy week and get ready for a week. Six. I, I don't think that Fitzpatrick anyone who's been around football. Long enough knows that this Patrick isn't necessarily a long term solution for that team and to some degree dirt cutter owes James Winston for the fact that he has this job, they promoted cutter from office coordinator, take coach in part because of the development that James Winston has shown under his tutelage. So I fully expected James Winston, we'll be back maybe not immediately. He has to get back into swing things and comfortable with reading defenses and the speed of the game as well as he can in practice. And I think the schedule works out perfectly for them to give Fitzpatrick one more week and then a buy week to get James ready. But yet when that suspension did go down and again, it was two and a half years after the initial incident there were those conversations about you shouldn't the bug just cut and move on at this point, and we haven't heard that. And he does say, as he said, initially. Alcohol is not part of his life. So you hope for the young man sake that much is true. Yeah. I mean, I hope that he is the two year gap is important to bring up because if you are making a case that James Winston deserves to stay in this league and deserves to be the number one option there, then that's part of the case you're making that he's gone two years without an incident, which is frankly not much of a thing to celebrate point too. I mean as Sally for James, Winston going two years without incident seems like a big deal so he can continue to do that. He seemed to be in good spirits. I think this team will turn back to them at some point. They are tied up with him for twenty plus million dollars for next season in Fitzpatrick as a free agent and thirty seven. So I think for if everyone's interests are line, the best thing is that James Winston become a franchise quarterback that they wanted to be. That's the best thing for James. That's the best thing for the box and that's probably fits passionate. The only one who that's not grateful. They got a lot out of that three million dollar fourteen year veteran quarterback. Let's start with the patriots or wanted to. All right. Let's not panic, everyone sit back in your seats, but we've seen these. Fitful New England starts before, and they often resulted in championships on the patch. Begin a three game homestand against the dolphins. Among the questions posed today, the Bill Belichick gronk brother was on the radio that listen to this. On yesterday's seem. Evidence of frustration addressed now focused on the dolphins get ready for this week's game. About last week, whereas month last year. Okay. With other working on the dolphins ready to play. Tolerant about less sprite last year. I mean, I said it last week when he's gone, we're going to miss this. Wanted to. He's been there before planet earth. Yeah. The crazy thing is like I wonder if the journalists there like him or don't let them because it's not like they have to come to work like they know what he's going to answer the questions. They could just go to write the story before. So I guess that makes it a little easier, but as for the future of the patriots, I, I think that the AFC is not strong and they have a track record in a great quarterback that they could potentially make a run in the playoffs. Then I wouldn't be shocked frankly, if they find themselves in the Super Bowl again. But I do think that there's some realistic concerns about the future of this pictures dynasty. We've always noticed that Bella check was incomplete control. I think it's quite clear now that he is no longer the dictator of that organization as he wants was, let's talk about what's going on with old Earl. Thomas of the Seahawks refusing the practice these stars on the field, leaving bell holding out all these sort of player stances and out of nowhere comes advice for bell from his former teammate. James Harrison. Listen. I think the play for lady on if I'm leaving on is I'm coming back, what is it? November thirteen tenth and I'm going to go on there. I'm going to get my credit this season that I need to get and I'm gonna do the best. I can't get out of that season healthy. And for me, I'll give you everything and practice. You see, the cameras were see, I am fine. I am healthy but come Saturday something right. I can't play on Sunday. Wow, that that is taking expediency to a malevolent level. I think now that is the reverse Earl Thomas, I guess, 'cause Thomas plays on Sunday but doesn't practice during the week. But the interesting thing is I'm not sure that he would have to fake an injury or pretend it's football. It's all all the players every weekend are playing with injuries. So he decided that something with a little difficult for him to play through. That's something that he could do. But I mean, I don't understand why James Harrison would advocate for that at this point. If you were going to fake it injury, dude, weak ones. You can get all those checks all under the assertive player, attitudes, whatever they can to get what they feel is due from them a multibillion dollar industry. Dominic Foxworth played. It knows it talks at the end of feet at thank you, sir. Good. Champ next up, calling the game. It's become the story. Time, looking deep down field into the end zone. Touchdowns Robbie Anderson then the first Tiete throve Sam darnold career coats, forty one yards that Beth Molins calling the Monday night football season opener for ESPN. Beth is called a number of network level and Phil games thirty one years ago. Kale series was the first woman to serve as a network NFL play by play announcer that for NBC. And as I reported yesterday beginning tomorrow night, the team of Hannah storm and Andrea Kremer will call Amazon prime streaming NFL telecasts. They will be one of the on demand audio options for that package of games, beginning tomorrow with the Vikings and the Rams it will Mark the first all female NFL announcing team as I say, good data, my friend and colleague Hannah storm. Well, congrats on the gig, which is absolutely tremendous. The headline says, all female pairing. How conscious are you of that. Well, I don't think you can help it be conscious of it. It has happened obviously, as you point out women like bath and Jessica Mendoza Doris Burke, these incredible pioneers and our business that we are so blessed to call colleagues. I mean, they have really paid the way being in the booth for major league network. Sporting events of this is the first time it's two women, and I think it's it's wonderful on. They came to us, Amazon did and sought us out as really veteran voices in sports. They didn't say, you know, the first thing that send to us, this isn't a gimmick and that's what Bo's Andrea. I wanted to hear. This wasn't a gimmick. They didn't set out to do a quote, unquote girls, broadcast, they set out to do something different to give an option to their listeners. And you know, you can listen to UK broadcast. You can listen to Joe and Troy eucalyptus fans, broadcast. You can listen to hand Andrea our perspective on what's happening in the gang. Anybody who knows you. Or Andrew knows your decades of work around in and around the league. Know that you've got the chops for this as a consumer. I find it fascinating broadcaster. What is it like though? And I imagine it could be probably tracked in real time streaming to be one of the four options. I find it absolutely fascinating. It's really funny. I mean, if you could only see behind the scene, so we're not at the stadium we are in if the syllabi and Connecticut with the other three Amazon to Amazon teams. Obviously, the FOX team is they're going to be at the Coliseum all the stadiums thereafter in this like, oh, little room, and we're taking the FOX feed. So it's literally like taking a world fee during a broadcast, we don't know, replays coming. We don't necessarily know it's coming out of brakes on. So it's very challenging. You are going to see us in the middle of something, and then FOX will be whipping promo across the screen or something else. Sunday morning sportscenter with you and me doing highlights left and right, but but but to that end, I mean that relationship when you've done event, I can speak having a few over the years. I mean, it's very important ship with your partner. What do they show for to prepare for this? We've done a couple of games again. It's been very rudimentary on. We weren't really even in. Up proper studio facility, but we did do a couple of games where we just set up television call games. The thing is, you know, Andrews a hall of Famer. So I'm so confident sitting next to her. She picks up on not only the Xs knows the football analysis, but she's begging a walking encyclopedia of football history. She's really dived into football her entire career. So she is a football expert, and I am guiding her along the way, making sure we follow the storylines that game on making sure you know, all the traffic is good. I'm helping her tell stories. We're going to tell a lot of stories together. We've talked to a lot of players and coaches who are involved in the game tomorrow night. So we have a lot to say and it's not like the traditional broadcast bother. You're gonna watch, you know, a play, then analysis a plane, that analysis because obviously, you know, Troy and Joe do that better than anybody. I mean, they're the standards. We're not trying to be. Fashion, brand new, I, it is historic and I think you share my opinion. You look forward to the day when it's noted, but not news and just something that's part of the regular course of business break a leg tells Kramer said the same thing at thanks so much already next up. What color and what size red shirt do wear all find bounce here. My name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking mom. My first experience with jewel. I do remember being like this, it's good. It's it's, it's like a cigarette, but not. I don't miss smoking at all. Like I can officially say it grosses me out jewel is the tobacco alternative that delivers nicotine satisfaction without cigarette Asher lingering odor make the switch and j. u. l. dot com. Slash sports warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. Grabby. If you pick the wrong. College game day built by the Home Depot live from ten states daddy morning at nine on ESPN. Today, the Bieb block red shirts and transfer blues. What's second touchdown. Jerry to. Bye. Oklahoma state White House Jalen mcclatch fee. So Clemson quarterback, Kelly, Bryant, feeling blue and donning the red shirt. Each taking advantage of the new NCWA rule, which allows football players to appear in up to four games into season four and retain the right to declare that a redshirt season for any reason. And this of course reason we've been talking about these players. They're just not seeing the football. It's a collegiate version of lady on Belen Earl Thomas with the question, there is money here. The question is featuring and nobody features more and more prominently than ball finebaum days, sir. What this is a new age of self determination that we see here. Yes, it is. And Bob, this what's happening right now is not a surprise. We knew what this date was. It was week five and I think we all had the money on the wrong horse. Here we thought this would be the. We Jalen hurts that I'm done. I'm leaving Alabama instead, it looks. It looks like he's staying. We will wait till Saturday to be certain. So the Kelly Bryant. Asian wasn't a big surprise. I'll give him boat. Excuse me. I'll Kip dabble. A lot of credit JIMBO Daboh they're all the same gave him a lot of credit because he could have been misleading. He could have started Kelly this week against Syracuse, and that would have been it for the young man. He, he would not have been able to go anywhere because this is a senior year. But instead he sat him down, he told the truth, an unusual events for a college coach and a quarterback. And today he said, goodbye. You talked about data. This is what he actually said this morning, even speaking very frankly about it leading up to this moment. And now that the diet casted Brian said he, he's leading. This would sit on the radio this morning, sadden disappointed that he's chosen to leave the team. But I really have absolutely nothing bad that I say about Kelly Bryant. He's one of the best young people I've ever been around. And even though I don't think this is a great decision. Certainly respect respect it and it doesn't change anything that I feel for Kelly only wonder and probably positively how that's going to play though in the recruiting living-rooms here a coach deal with that. Let me ask you about the Jalen hurts situation though. Saban's role at clearly major here, but what do you tell young man to turn his head around like that in four weeks, it's fascinating Bob because you know, I've watched Nick Sabin for for many, many years, and I was with him Saturday morning and I brought up the quarterback situation in even then before the fourth game of the year, he was still measuring his words. Nick Sabin does not major his words about any subject where has not until now because I think he understands the important. He doesn't want to tip the balance. He's trying to. Preserve as much as he can if he pulls this off after Saturday, congratulations to him that's more than Daboh could do. But the circumstances were different and I still believe and I think most people believe Jalen hurts will say goodbye after this year and have one more year valuability, but it's interesting. We all thought he would leave. Now. He obviously likes playing it ala Bama. It's not a bad place to be to his his area and our Vegas expert telling me for the show in the hallway that to a has just totally changed the way that Vegas looks at this team. We're not here to talk point spreads at least not today. Let's talk a bat, Maryland, three and one on the field. They were excoriated in the in the details report into the circumstances of the unfortunate death DJ Durkan head coach till on administrative leave while the culture investigation, if you will, in Maryland football continues so dark and is still employed. He is, but he's mostly been forgotten about Bob and I frankly have forgotten that he hadn't been fired yet because I think we all expected that to happen very soon after the season began shortly after the report. I, I don't understand the legal machinations going on right now, but he will not be back and and I don't think anyone there really cares. I know that players made a big deal about it, but this program needed to change. It has it is getting that at least for the time being where where they are at the end of the season, I'm not certain, but that report was just a steaming with fire. And it's hard to imagine as many people looking looking the other way and not being acknowledging including the athletic director who who said, I didn't know about this. I'm not sure that you have to take. You have to take a deep breath if you buy that a damning time line and still to come as the cultural investigation. I, let's come to New England where college football head takes it back seat, of course, to pro and into all the other sports here comes. University of Connecticut at one in three. Here's the stat of the day provided by sports and information here at ESPN. The Yukon football team is giving up fifty four point five points per game. The women's basketball team last year gave up fifty three point four. So the ladies that have better job than the men on the football team. You may have noticed two sports have a little difference in scoring techniques. And so Randy goes to the podium and his asked, theoretically, what do you think about maybe making some changes like wake has made in midseason before. Loss on that. I like. Okay. The walk off of the week. I remember a time not that long ago that Randy, it'll had respect in the world of college football. That was disgraceful. Answer the question deal with it and don't walk off and act like you were offended. You're you're in charge of that football program. It's on you don't. It's not on the reporters. Thank goodness, somebody legitimate question. We need more of that in the phenomenon. Certainly of in-season changes in college staff. Here we go. I mean, that pressure, you see coming over from the professional sign and symptom by symptom signed by sign. It comes, Paul find who would never wear a red shirt. Even if he were leading an Augusta on Sunday, I real could to see usually the term gritty is a compliment on the field, but in Philly, they may have just jumped the shark. With delta in-flight entertainment. You can watch over one thousand hours of entertainment, all for free being watchful, seasons of top shows or choose from up to three hundred movies. HBO Showtime, TV games in more. Use our screener. Yours stream on your laptop, iphone, ipad or Android. Kevin with sportscenter at six eastern Dacca's under pressure, Ohio, State, and Stanford on the road. Could this be Bryce Harper's last home game in DC? It's on the app at six each and we call it sports entered. You should too. Hey, we've got baseball rose and cardinals at seven eastern tonight, followed by the dodgers and the Diamondbacks and everything is streaming. Live on the app, watch it at your lizard. Perilous times for mascots. No one is safe. Not the Murray state racers who had this abomination traits, their sidelines reasonably under the false flag of being Mary's actual mascot. Now, no undercover work by the university of Kentucky, cheerleading mascots and we know which end of the horse. They were in New Orleans. The pelicans push the boundaries of weird with this mascot, king cake baby, a seasonal, mardi gras figure that cannot be unseen, unfortunately. And then the roll out of this pelican received about as well as temperance, March down bourbon street. The voice of the people heard here. So Pierre the pelican with a face or beak lift, nine, two one. Oh, here comes the bow talks, and then wallah the damage, the small children and your Rhames sleep has been mitigated, moans your peer and then well, look, I know we're playing directly into their hands, but then the flyers for decades removed from their last Stanley Cup. The flyers give us gritty. He. In the town that's featured the Philly fanatic. The flyers give us a disturbing aggregation of materials really as a ride with the roll out that well, home Jaji car dash s. down to the champagne glass on his vox in Philly, we're doing is an art form. It's federally protected as an activity. The voice of these people have been heard. He actually shot one of his handlers gritty with a t shirt gun has chipped the buffalo out in Colorado, how that won't, and not. Well, then came some national on good Morning America. If you can talk, he would say, bring it up right. He would. Opponents breath. What are you. He is a fuzzy are inch creature. Here's what is not fuzzy nor is it funny fifteen thousand eight hundred twenty eight days since the flyers last won the Stanley Cup ready. You know who's gritty, Wendy. Next, she's next NFL live. We'll see. Really.

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2020 Week 11 (Part 1)

Fantasy Feast: 'Eatin

34:35 min | 8 months ago

2020 Week 11 (Part 1)

"It's time to eat four. Sit down and get ready to consume in abundance of fantasy football knowledge from ross tucker and joe dolan mood now on the fantasy. Feast and podcast. Yeah let's eat baby. It is the fantasy feast eating podcast presented by fantasy. Points dot com. Finish the season strong. This is for bragging rights go to fantasy points dot com use the code feast or if you're playing. Dfs overdraft kings make sure you get your info for dfs from fantasy points dot com using the code fees. It's the show. That's so nice. We do it twice. I'm ross tucker former. Nfl offensive linemen redskins cowboys bills patriots. And the cleveland browns. Now i've got even money podcast. The college draft podcast andrew brand does the business of sports podcast the ross tucker football podcast and the fantasy feast with joe dolan from fantasy points dot com. Make sure you check out. Joe on twitter like i do at f. g. underscored dolan. I'm at ross tucker. Nfl everywhere twitter instagram facebook of you. Listening to raw soccer football podcast. No any engagement is appreciated. I'm looking for that. And if you engage in any way a like a reply retweet whatever it is. You're eligible to win a little. Something something from your boy at ross tucker pod is where we post up twitter and instagram that is show related. Good morning joe. How are you. I'm well ross week. Eleven one week away from thanksgiving football I'm just every week. I say but i'm just thrilled. We've gotten to this point. You know we have a nice little distraction here. Unfortunately you know the pandemic is is. It's ravaging right now. The nfl seems to have done a solid job with it but You know you just have to be on your toes right now with with fantasy and obviously with everything but with fantasy there are gonna be some guys who are going to miss games. You're down the stretch. It just seems inevitable. No question about it joe. Let's start with thursday night. Might be the best fantasy matchup of the week here in week. Eleven it's the arizona cardinals at the seattle seahawks. Now all you have to do is look back to the box score from this game in week. Seven just four weeks ago and look at all the numbers that were up in that overtime game. Thirty seven thirty four win for the arizona cardinals and russell wilson post with three eighty eight but he also throws three interceptions kyle. Murray throws for three sixty he adds over sixty yards. Rushing in that game We we seem to have a couple of these games each and every week but this stardom all game and at and i understand that like de que. Metcalf was a little bit disappointing last week. Jalen ramsey did selectively shadow decay mecca not exclusively but he's selectively shadow decay met. Cap'n shut him down. You might worry about patrick peterson. Peterson's not that guy anymore so good but he's not that guy anymore Metcalf might not have tyler lockett though seattle seattle. So keep that in. Mind if tyler lockett doesn't go. He's dealing with a knee injury. David moore has been somebody who's been picking up the slack here in the passing game. They got freddie swain involved a little bit last week so those are two lower names that maybe you could look at. But i was reading an article from. Michael sean duggar of the athletic about chris carson and how much chris carson matters to this offense sought some quotes from p carol talking about how he's had the discussions with russell wilson about not trying to do too much and it's pretty obvious year in the last few weeks that he's been trying to do a little bit too much over the five games that chris carson started and finish. Russell wilson had three turnovers in the four games. Chris carson has not been engaged and started. He has ten turnovers those last four games. He's the ball over too much on and it's hurting the seahawks. He's he's acting like he has He's playing like he has too much on his shoulders. Like carson wentz style just trying to do way too much making bad decisions and bad throws. There is some optimism with seattle regarding chris carson. This week he has been limited in practice as we discussed. Meanwhile carlos high has been all participate in practice. So it looks like they're gonna get at least one of those guys back when it comes to seattle's offense though it's still wilson metcalf seem what happens with lock it unfortunately if you had dj dallas. Obviously things did not work out last week but it looks like the backfield is going to go away from alex collins and dj dallas and into the hands by carlos. Hyde or chris carson depending on if one or both of them play on the other side. You've got the arizona cardinals. Fresh off the hail murray joe. It's actually the first time. I heard that i can't believe that's the first summer i heard that. But you know. Kinda murray's playing unstoppable football right now. Everybody's like oh you know. How are we gonna you know. Trust him to sustain this with what's happening to lamar jackson this year and from my perspective. It's a simple answer marines more talented than lamar jackson's but thrower than lamar jackson. And he's got better weapons than lamar jackson. And this is just a special offense right now. Moore's playing special football on earlier in the year. He was putting up fantasy numbers. I didn't think he was playing all that. Well quite frankly but they started going down the field more kind starting with october. I know christian kirk didn't have a big game. I thought he was going to have a big one against buffalo. Did not But i think they started to go down the field more. They started the stretch the field more. They ran the ball really well against buffalo. Kenyan drake got off to a bad start at a fumble but he ran for one hundred yards in that game. A chase edmonds was selectively involved. This is an offense that has a lot of weapons and a quarterback who's executing it at a very high level and seattle against seattle defense. That cannot stop anybody. I mean arizona Tyler murray's the the overall qb one this week. That's i mean. That should not be surprised. He's the quarterback one overall and in this matchup. He's the qb one deondraye hopkins christian kirksey stardom kenyan drake and jason straits. Kind of a low end rb to edmonds is a flex life in need one. The reason i say that edmonds has been way more productive as a receiver than kenyan drake. And it's clear that marie likes throwing the ball an edmonds more than some drink. Let's move on and sunday. One o'clock games. Joe it's interesting bengals at washington. Bengals have been a really prolific offense. They got stymied by this yours. Meanwhile alex smith is talking all over the place and the guy. He's chucking it to jd mckissic out of the backfield. Trading mckissic has twenty nine targets over his last two gapes. There is a very very short list of players who have had that Fourteen or more targets in back to back games in. nfl history. Very few of them have done it more than twice. And i'm getting a lot of people complaining. Why is antonio gibson not getting these targets. He's a great receiver was a receiver. A college one. One factor here pass protection antonio gibson. I got a lot of people like mad at me for saying he blew the block. That got allan hurt. Well i mean. I read articles about it. The i mean the the assumption in washington's coaching staff in that building is antonio gibson needs to improve as a protector. That's why jd. Mckissic is playing over seventy percent of the snaps now antonio gibson outta great fantasy day. Because he's a much better runner than antonio gibson but jd mckee then a runner than jd mckissic rather but jd. Mckissic is gonna play on passing downs. He's going to continue to play on passing down and we have a fact a backfield. Beer were both of these. Running backs are fantasy. And then he got terry mclaren obviously is a high end wide receiver to and you can throw logan thomas out there as a as a stream. -able tight end. I think alex smith is good for logan thomas. The targets have been there routes have been there. the production really hasn't been. But i feel like that might be coming soon but as you said alex smith dropping back. He's playing pretty good. Football is old tendencies. Have come out. We've seen his old tendencies. The check downs short throws. And i don't i don't expect he's gonna play any different going for on the other side. What about the bangles. Just a bad match last week against against pittsburgh and unfortunately you know this washington front seven. Despite the injuries it has still pretty good. He's young the really dumb penalty last week. But it's still a good front seven. I expect they're going to be able to get after joe burrow. We don't know yet on joe mixon. It's now. I think four weeks since the foot injury geo bernard did not have a great big game last week but the offensive line has been a factor there in a negative way for that run game all season long. Aj green is zero right now. You can't play him. T diggins as their number one wide receiver on the perimeter. Tyler boyd tyler boyd. Wide receiver to t higgins is a wide receiver to aj. Green is on your bench rate now and we have to wait to see about that about that. Running back situation. I think joe burrow a decent enough start this week if you need them. But it's not a great matchup washington's secondary is exploiting but they can still get after joe burrow behind that battle offensive line next up we've got atlanta and new orleans. Now it looks. Joe like jameis. Winston is going to be the quarterback for the new orleans saints. Interesting the timing of it. I thought when they gave chase them hill. Twenty one million dollars. It was because they kind of thought he was gonna be the next quarterback but atlanta game twenty one million dollars just to make sure they had him under contract for next year and to be the gadget guy. I think people are a little bit scared about janus for fantasy because they wonder what tastes hills roles going to be. And i'm not saying that it's going to be a perfect analog to what happened last year when drew brees got hurt but the thing is that when brees was hurt last year. Teddy bridgewater keenan the play quarterback. He actually went. Undefeated tastes hills role. Decreased they've not used haysom. Elmore because drew brees was hurt. They actually used them. Less and gets was sean. Payton wanted to allow Teddy bridgewater to get into a rhythm and the question. I have is. Is he going to do the same thing this week with. Janus winston going forward because james winston is going to start at quarterback. I can't give you that. Answer a what i can tell you is if you're looking at janus winston as a potential streaming quarterback these next few weeks these critical weeks for fantasy. We'll look at the schedule. Atlanta denver atlanta philly. The next four weeks then. A potential shootout with kansas city in week fifteen. We don't know how long drew brees is going to be out on assault edward. Vsbn who's been plugged in on this injury. He drew brees went for a second opinion. That reaffirmed the first you have broken ribs and yadda collapsed lung and it's a matter of time until he gets the conditioning going until he gets a until gets clears from that ribs. And it's pain tolerance thing so it's gonna be at least a couple of weeks and i anticipate jameis. Winston will start at quarterback this week and i think because i think you'll end up being pretty popular for the though would drew brees getting hurt on sunday. This isn't this isn't like a mid week injury. Where james winston is going to be men price so the pricing light price. Some people out your but it's a great matchup. The only thing that i'm worried about is what the hell's going on. Michael thomas two catches he has not been a factor at all since he returned. Will james winston pump in the ball the way we expect janus winston to been trying to coach those over aggressive tendencies out of genus winced. It those are some answers that we don't really have right now as we move forward with the new orleans saints offense any other impact on other players for the saints of this move emmanuel. Sanders has been dinged up. I'm probably benching him right now. Jerry cooked have catch last week. Utterly bizarre he's a low end tight end. one and alvin. Kamara is going to be alvin. Kamara there is a point yesterday. Excuse me there's a point earlier this week. Wh on sunday's game for the saints where alvin kamara had negative rushing yards and had over twenty peop- your fantasy points. That just goes to show you. What kind of weapon. This guy is where he has negative. He's a running back who had negative rushing yards and he had over twenty fantasy points at one point ended up running for positive yards. But it just goes to show you. What kind of weapon on comparis- speaking of negative joe. I know some people whose begging accounts right now are essentially negative because of credit card debt. They got more liabilities than they do. Assets dudes refinance your high interest credit card balances and save where they credit card consolidation loan from light stream rates. Start at five point nine five percent. Apr with auto pay an excellent credit. The rate is fixed alone from five grand up to a hundred grand. My listeners can save even more with an additional interest rate discount. The only way to get it though is light stream dot com slash. Feast l. i. 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The problem is other than that. He's not really going anywhere. I mean he hasn't averaged more than more than three yards per carry in a game since week number five i mean talk about the definition of a plotter and i wonder if over the by they're going to try to decrease his role a little bit because i mean he's averaging three point seven yards per rush on the year but he hasn't averaged over three yards per carry since averaging eight point six in week number five. I mean that is not a viable run game in the nfl. This point now. He's fallen into the end zone. A bunch this year. He's a he's close to the nfl lead. He's got nine rushing touchdowns but it just hasn't been happening for him in the passing game and he hasn't been in any way on the ground. I wonder if they're going to decrease his role little bit. Pittsburgh is at jacksonville. Pittsburgh's a machine. Benjamin on a nice job spreading around. It's been kind of annoying. And i think i don't think there's been a player who's been more obnoxious for people than the andre johnson. Because it seems like when you put them in your lineup. He gets hurt in the first series of the game. And when you don't he goes nuts but were showing with the johnsons production right now. Exactly why we were excited about drafting him. The guy's really good He's got he's got playmaking ability with the ball on his hands. You could still see that. There's a rawness till he almost like we talked. Just talk about russell wilson trying to do too much. The wide receiver version is occasionally diontae johnson. Where he's running backwards and you know he's he's not taking the yardage that's given to him but i think that's all part of a learning process and i think what you're seeing here with guys like deontay juju and claypool. All of them came through last week. But i think you're seeing that the upside is too great to really sit. One of these guys for the hot will waiver wire guy do shore or the why the wide receiver who has a good match this week. The upside is just too high for this these receivers. I really love Ben rothlisberger this week for obvious reasons but one thing that's really bothering me. It's bothering pittsburgh media as well. This run game has done nothing. And i use jameson argues. James conner is kind of a pivot play last week expecting a blowout win against cincinnati. What did we get a blowout win against. Cincinnati james conner. Every time i looked at his stats is rushing yards. We're going backwards. This team cannot run the football at all right now and i know. They're double digit favorites here against jacksonville. But i mean how. Can i trust james conner right now. Anything more than a low and running back to this team cannot run the ball. And i wonder if that's going to be something that's going end up costing them down the stretch here in these colder weather games. Not this week in jacksonville but these colder weather games that have become in the ben rothlisberger. Mike tomlin air. Hell since the terry bradshaw in pittsburgh become colin. Carter the pittsburgh steelers. I wonder if that run games gonna end up costing them stretch very interesting point. Joe what about jacksonville. Throwing the football and jacksonville playing against the steelers defense. Yeah jake luton. dj shark. I think last week the weather in green bay was a factor. He sold tj. Get behind the packer. Defense and jake gluten through it up to him for potential touchdown and the ball just hung in the air. Ross i went to hit a links yesterday. down here south carolina where the weather's still nice but it was real windy and it's it's one of the most demoralizing feelings when you really strike a good drive and and you just see it. Just stand in the air as the wind holds it up and then it falls well short of of where you thought you hit it. That's what happened with jake. Luton throwing that ball down the field of dj chart. I don't think we're going to have weather concerns like that in jacksonville this week with the jaguars. Ten point underdogs. I would anticipate a lot of targets for dj. Talk in this game. Keelan cole has been kind of the guy you can. you can use a wide receiver. Three of given the fact that they have laviska should know who's been dinged up. Keelan cole has been that guy who's been getting in the end zone for them. They really liked what he can do on his hands he saw him return a punt for a touchdown last week as well and with running back chris thompson going on i r. I don't know if they're going to involve divine of zippo. They had dario gumbo wa playing some down last week. But i think james robinson has proven himself to be a quality receiver. And i would expect james robinson snaps to go up. You typically don't like running back a early down running back when a team is ten point. Underdog but james robinson has been pretty much the exclusive running back all year for the jacksonville jaguars and with chris thompson on i r i would expect his involvement to just rise new england and houston new. England ran that rock against the baltimore ravens. Now they go against the texans run defense. That stinks yeah. Damian harris has been awesome. I mean i think damian harris has a strong rb two this week rex. Burkhead is kind of their passing down back. James white is as Has kind of disappeared from his offense. Unfortunately obviously he's he's gone through a tragic situation this year. So james white's kind of disappeared from this offense but in rex burkhead kind of taken that passing down role. But what you've seen obviously is how much better cam. Newton has looked. When he's had somebody that he can trust throat. Football too and that guy is jakobi. Meyers should be in your lineup right. Now there's no reason for jakobi meyers to not be in your lineup. He is number one receiver. I i saw bill belichick talking about julian edelman potentially coming off. vr it would be malpractice. To take the koby myers off the field right now and. I don't anticipate that the patriots are going to do that. But because of this matchup against houston. I love damian harris this week. I like cam newton. This week i like jakobi meyers this week on. This could be kind of one of those nobody. There is nothing sexy about the new england patriots on offense. There's no doubt about that. this might be one of those games. Where maybe you get damian harris. Who made is made a little bit more boring player and you plug them into your lineup and a little bit lower ownership and he ends up creates value for you because i can see him going for over one hundred yards in this game nine. What about houston well. It was a bad match up last week. And then obviously you have a weather issues. I am sick at the weather in cleveland. By the way. I two weeks in a row. They've had awful well two games in a row not two weeks in a row. They've had absolutely awful weather in cleveland and it completely in a affects the passing game But when it comes to new england's defense you have to keep an eye on the status of stefan. Gilmore didn't play last week because he doesn't go again. That's huge news. For shawn watson will fuller. I would go back to a well with this houston texan offense and just understand that game in cleveland with those awful wins that bad weather the end the weather delay. It just affected everything in that game. So i'm gonna go back to the well with my houston players. And i'm going to go back to the well with duke johnson as well at running back the big upset against cleveland last week. He didn't catch a pass. And i and i think that really crushed people but david johnson on. I are do johnson's the guy in this backfield they. I believe they signed. Cj precise. but i don't anticipate you'll have a huge role eagles browns joe. I know you grew up in eagles. Fan sorted i. That was painful against the new york. Giants i mean. Is there a rossier. You watch film and you talk to co. Is there a less creative offense in the nfl. Right now philadelphia's running. I mean it is just it is a log to watch and i know. They went over eight or overnight on third downs. Every one of them. It looked like they're running just four verts or dagger and they're just doing it with no motion or basic motion and it just seems like it's such an easy offense to defend right now and and look. I think it's a snake eats detail kind of situation. I don't think doug peterson is doing his best. Work arguments his worst work. I don't think this is the worst. I've ever seen carson wentz play and i think it feeds from each other. They're making bad decisions. Will why is why is jordan. My lada not playing football right now for the philadelphia eagles. The young tackle. Maybe jason peters is better than him right now but your teen is dead. The only reason you're team is not dead. An overall is because you're in the worst division. I can remember in professional football like they get development out there. Get the young guys involved and and i understand jalen. Rager was somebody who didn't run a great row on that fourth down. Play once maybe him to throw the ball. Anyway because regular was covered by james bradberry but that at the very least young player he should be out there and should be involved and they should be trying to develop. But not getting this offense. Doug peterson said today. You know maybe i should get carson wentz out of pocket a little bit more. Well you'd think the guy looks like a different player when he's out of the pocket. I just don't get what's going on is wentz audibly. Scrimmage is the roster just as bad as it looks. It's it is the worst of look but it's not the worst offense in the nfl but to me. It looks like the least creative offense in the nfl for doing nothing. The running basic route concepts when they get into third and long which basically is every series. They just want a go ball. It's really painful to watch right now. They're not putting the ball in the hands of their best players. They abandon the ron with miles sanders. When he's carving up six yards per carry it's just absolute slog for watch filled up eagles right now and as we're talking right now. There are some potential weather concerns. In cleveland on sunday. Yet again with those damn lake effect wins so this could be a low scoring boring ass football game between two teams. You are not scoring points right now while okay. So let's go to cleveland and the other side. They did run it very well against houston. What are you like. They're the run game like with cleveland. There's no two ways about that. Jim schwartz eagles defense coordinator who did an abominable job last week by the way i'll throw that out there. He said this week. That cream on nick. Chubb are the two best running backs that they face this year. Not the not the best handle the two best running backs that the eagles have faced this year. And if the weather is going to be a factor again. I expect nick chubb and kareem hunt to have success. That eagle run. The events could not contain wing. Goldman and alfred morris last week. What the hell do you think Nick chubb and kareem hunt. We're going to do that. Liked it. it. It's a bad team right now. That's poorly coached on both sides of the football philadelphia and if it wasn't for the offense if it wasn't for the offensive struggles we'd be talking about. How poor job jim schwartz. Daddy leave us up next. Joe we've got detroit and carolina. Looks like stafford might be able to play with that. Torn ligament thumb doesn't get any warm fuzzy feelings. Though does it. i mean does that. Give you a warm fuzzy feeling of a quarterback playing with torn ligament his thumb. I mean i guess. I guess that's what they're saying. Matthew stafford we know one of the toughest guys in the nfl but the story abyss game for me. They finally did it. Ross the detroit. Lions were staring at the obvious. Answer all week off for weeks and that answer was hey. Maybe we should get the ball in the hands of the andre swift so tom palestinian nfl network reports before that game last week that they're the lines are going to start the andre swift. They're going to give him his first start of his. Nfl career and we know that doesn't necessarily matter it running back because teams rotate running backs. But they actually follow through on it. They gave him over twenty touches. He gained nearly one hundred and fifty yards from. Scrimmage he scores a touchdown meanwhile adrian peterson is reduced to a bit player. That is exactly what should have been happening for weeks with the detroit. Lions at this point with the state of the running back position for fantasy. I'm willing to call the andre swift or running back one right now. Because i can't imagine they're going to go away from him and with the state of detroit's offense where you don't have a whole lot of explosiveness. Ty excuse me tj. Hopkinson is dealing with a toe injury yet at his worst game of the season last week. Marvin jones is coming alive a little bit. What's the status of kenny golladay. We don't really know that but with matthew stafford doing with an injury hopkinson dealing with an injury. Marvin jones is on the wrong side of thirty me to buy the way i mean. I feel it every day but yet wrong side of thirty four marvin jones. There is one player on this team. You can to make explosive plays on a consistent basis and that's that's deondraye swift. He's running back on right now. I love them in this matchup They'll take their shots tomorrow. All but was stafford dealing with the injury the fact that he doesn't have his compliment or weapons healthy. It's not a great game for the short acid. Gave and i think it's game for andre swept what about carolina. Looks like bridgewater. Might be go. Mccaffrey still has not yet. Bridgewater dealing with a knee injury and his. Look you're dealing with a game in vegas. They pull games off the board. When there's a question about one quarterback we got a game. Where there's a question about two quarterbacks and It's For carolina. I think this is a huge factor because i think t- teddy bridgewater and pj walker are very different. Quarterbacks teddy bridgewater that point guard distributing mentality i think. Pj walker is kind of your slashing perimeter forward. Who's going to try to make plays as a runner. I like i think carolina's passing game takes a massive hit of teddy. Bridgewater does not play in this game on and does that mean like davis is gonna run the ball more. I'm not sure that's a great thing. He hasn't been very good recently. you you want him to get those check downs. Is it going to be more shots down. Field to dj and robby anderson if jaywalkers the quarterback here if you have been rolling carolina panthers for fantasy bore samuel. Mike davis Robby anderson cross your fingers that teddy bridgewater is able to play through that mc l. injury. Because i think this passing game is going to take a massive hit. If he doesn't go but he jay walker by the way because of his rushing upside probably is going to be an interesting pump play. Dfs if he plays. I like that one there. Joe that's interesting Speaking of interesting do you know. Drafting sportsbook is still giving all new users. The chance to earn a sign up bonus up to one thousand dollars when signing up using the promo code. Ross so we got. Nfl games tomorrow night we've got nba draft. You can bet on that if you'd like tonight we've got mac shen. We've got obviously saturday. We got college football on whatever you guys know what we got but you also nowhere to need to do it. Draftkings safe reliable secure. 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They have a three man running back rotation. that's helping absolutely no one mark. Ingram comes back against five. Carry a game five yards on five carries. They don't know what they're doing right now. It is a painful painful offense to watch last week. Obviously they're playing in the monsoon. So you have to give them the benefit of the doubt there. And i don't know how good how if it's good sign. Mark jackson passing numbers were better in a monsoon against new england. But they they are a horrible fantasy team right now. Like the only guys. I have any level of confidence in for fantasy right. Now are lamar jackson simply because he runs because he's not throwing the ball and mark andrews who has been a massive underachiever. This there is not a bigger disappointed in fantasy football than the baltimore. Ravens offense right now. It is broken. Teams have gotten better at defending the run concepts and they have regressed in the passing game. I that that's all there is to it right now. and yes. The offensive line's a factor. But they have regressed across the board. Okay what about tennessee offensively after the patriots kinda ran the ball down the ravens through and you would think that tennessee is going to try to do the same thing. Clay campbell banged up. They had i had covert situations at the linebacker position. So you wonder if things are going to get better from that from that regard but tennessee is going to run the ball. I mean we know. Tennessee is going to run the ball. Derek carry like jesus last week against indianapolis. I remember watching the entire game. And i'm like man. That was another bad one for henry and then you look at the box score. And he's got over one hundred yards rushing. And so that's what derrick henry can give you the tamils play hasn't been great although i think. Aj brown dropped a potential touchdown last week. That really would have helped. Hannah hills numbers rise but when it comes to the tennessee titans. Aj brandon corey davis eight arousal wide receiver to corey davis a wide receiver. Three tannehill in this matchup. Not all that appealing. Maybe take a shot on jonnu smith who scored last week but tennessee. We know is kind of the saints each and every week for fantasy battle. Do it for episode one of the show. That's so nice we do it twice. We will break down all the sunday late games the sunday night or the monday neider on part two of the fancy feast that will be in your podcast app shortly after midnight record both but we divvy them up so you guys have a little bit more leeway there as to when you consume them at fda underscore dolan on twitter. He of course is the guy. Fantasy points dot com code fees. Make sure you're using that. I think we're done here. Thanks for listening to the fantasy. 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"Welcome to Spain and fits the podcast just when you thought it couldn't get any worse. Just when you thought the conversation couldn't get any more about something else. Not related to the action on the field. The penalties continued the roughing. The passer continues to erupt and now the league may take a look at doing something about it. The question is, how long can they afford to wait? It's pain and Fitz on ESPN radio ESPN app siriusxm channel eighty Jason Fitz hanging out with superstar, Nicole Briscoe in a coal. You have some big, big shoes to fill because field Yates has been just not only dashingly good looking but also spectacular. The last never ages. No, that's that's a fact surprise me though I feel doing for you with him one night. He gets a five o'clock shadow. Does he really dies? That is alarming only because let's face it totally fourteen. Yeah. Well, he looks like he's fourteen. And now I've just realized that field Yates. Is more of a man than I'll ever be. That's good, Spain and Fitz. We're going to take you up to brewers cardinals, which will be on ESPN radio tonight at seven thirty eastern. A lot of people don't know this fields actually sixty three years old. So of the conversation about roughing, the passers one, Nicole. You're here yesterday and I, I did. I went on record and said, look, let's understand. Number one, the is much as we don't like the rule. The league is adamant that they're calling it the way they want to call it, so we all need to get over it. We all need to just accept it and then you want last night. And it's just a reminder that this is a tough pill to swallow because it's hard to get any flow in the game when it's being called with the regularity that it's being called right now, I hate the rule. I hate. I hate it because it slowing down the game and a hate it because it's one of those rules that so completely subjective and it's never called with the same sort of authority and in through the same, the same lens like, yes, I will admit it. I am a Green Bay Packers fan so that. Game on Sunday with Washington and Green Bay was it was painful to watch. Right? I don't understand the call on clay Matthews, but the no call under on pain. Because to me, if you're going to call the one on Matthews, the pain hit was just as agreed. And also how do you fight gravity still haven't figured that one out. Well, part of this, though, when when you think about finding gravity is as I said yesterday, the league's worried about one thing protecting their biggest marketing pieces in that's the quarterback, which they don't really have a hard time with. The subjective element of this though is is sort of like pass interference, rearing its ugliest head because it, you know, pass interference can sometimes be subjected, but at least we've gotten used to it. I wonder Nicole of part of this conversation is because as generation of football fans is grown up watching in a certain way, and they're trying to make this change. It's asking fans to rethink the way they see something that's difficult to do on the fly when everybody's used to certain type of football and now the league is saying, no, we're not going to do that anymore. Eight, I'm fine. I, I'm fine with changing the game in protecting the quarterbacks like it was my, this is the Aaron Rodgers rule this. It was my quarterback who was season ago was taken out in the game against the Vikings with a broken collarbone because he was driven into the ground like I get it. I appreciate. The rule. My problem is not that the rule exists. My problem is that it's just not called across the board, and it also it makes me feel like the quarterback is now completely untouchable. Which is an interesting conversation for coaches because I was talking to John FOX this morning sportscenter seven to ten AM eastern on ESPN ESPN two solid club. Thank you very much. So John FOX, I was like, how are you coaching this? And the the dude has won a Super Bowl, right? And he looks at me and he was, I don't know. He doesn't know how to say to coach it because there's no answer to this. He may say, I don't know, do this and then the rest going to go out and be like, no, that's not exactly what you should do. He pointed out. He thinks that maybe the best way to do it is you no longer try to sack the quarterback. You just go for the ball, forget about knocking them down, just go for the ball. Well, and that's an interesting concept until you go for the ball, amiss. Part of what's going to be really interesting about this is to see what happens with quarterbacks moving forward that have some mobility because how they're going to be protected, how you attack somebody defensively that is being protected to that level. You still get them down and then you work around it. Because how do you bring down a Cam Newton guide? You don't need that speed. You just say, dear Cam. That'd be great because that's the thing you go after Cam Newton, you need the momentum to bring down. What does he hundred and forty pounds? Whatever. He's as big as tight end is a linebacker. You need the speed in the momentum to actually bring him down. You need sort of that that gravity, right? You can't just softly take him down like you could maybe Alex Smith. Well, in is the reports continue to come out that the league's going to take a look at this. The competition committee may talk about it next week, but no changes would be expected the season. It drives my brain a little crazy. What I want the league to do is take a stand, tell us why they've done it the way they're doing it and stick to it for the league. Come out and then I'll I know, wouldn't it still drives me crazy? Like how do if they change this row right away. Then my first question will be, how did you not have the foresight to see that this rule was bum in the first place, at least draw a line in the sand and and have some guts with it. I mean, I wanna see them come out and say, hey, I don't care. I mean as much as people may hate, the tweet that came out and said, hey, this. Was the correct call the fact that the league was aggressively tweeting mid game about how correct a call was against clay Matthews is a bit of a statement that they're dialed in on what they want. The rule to be. If they change into the end of the year, it makes me wonder what they're thinking. Now, Trey wingo on golick WinCo reminded us what the league really cares about the ratings are up now they are. They are up. It's I'm working for them. So listen, I retweeted that with way Mays and Richard Sherman re tweeted. My tweet basically saying they don't care about anybody else, no injuries, but the quarterbacks. So you would think you would hope that that would be the case? I'm not sure that I don't think what makes them change bottom line, right? Yeah. And this isn't affecting their bottom because quarterbacks are healthy ratings are up, were all screaming about it players or scream at about it, even quarterbacks? Don't agree with it, but it's not. I don't think it's going to chain. Well, Nicole. I gotta say that only makes me feel a little bit smarter because trading Mike know their stuff. They do great work in the mornings, and I may have said last night that the league only cares about quarterbacks, and that's the way it's going to be because that's where the money comes from. So maybe though because there were four, roughing, the passer penalties yesterday into game before the half, and then there were none called in the second half. Do you think that there was maybe a conversation at halftime about? Maybe we need to like tone this down a little bit because I don't want to. I want to say for a fact. That it did, but I kinda get the, I kinda get the feeling that maybe something was said, well, God, but again, okay, so this is me living in my bubble, right? If my level though I've wanna believe like it just my bubble is a lot like Willie Wonka and the chocolate factory. There's lots of candy there maybe every once in a while petulant child, but I want to believe in my bubble that the refs aren't going to the locker room getting a text from the league saying, hey, let's back down on that a little bit. I mean, just just decide in, I think there has to be knowledged. There's a learning curve for the refs here. Also officials have to figure out exactly how they're going to call this much like they've had to learn how to adjust what the catch or the have to learn how to adjust with targeting to learn the preseason. And I think that's what surprised me the most because think about all the rules that were emphasized this year, right in the preseason. You've got the leading with the helmet call and it's a disaster and everyone's up in arms about it, and no one understands it and it's called how many times in the preseason. And usually it's like, well, they're going to place the emphasis on it in the preseason, and then they're going to chill out. In the regular season, they've gone the opposite way with this. They called this in the preseason. The way worse now. Okay. Well, as I sit in my bubble telling you that, I hope there's not a conspiracy theory at halftime, and I'm lifting my physi- sipping drink. I will say that the because my bubble, like per second Wagner combined the second little lemon drop with sugar on the rim. It's delicious in my bubble. I will also tell you that I'm continually believed that we were. We spent so much time focusing on targeting this summer so that we wouldn't be focused on this. This was always there. Initiative was to get this one called and not have people screaming about it. That's my conspiracy theory, nickel, kinda like your conspiracy there. I'm not gonna make fun of you for your fizzy drinks because I'm thirty eight and I just discovered Jin. Okay. Gin. Gin is a who I'm not man enough for gen. All right, like gin and tonic the league. Somebody walks in pours a gin and tonic. I'm like, I'm out your tougher than I Mike admit that you know. But maybe if I tried sugar on the rim, I don't know. It's Spain fits by the way we're taking you up to brewers cardinals, which will be on ESPN radio at seven thirty eastern tonight coming up in about twenty minutes. We talked to read. Corner, Josh Norman will get his thoughts on these new rules. I'm told he's pretty fired up. Can't wait for that. Don't forget guys, Golic and wingo. We'll be live from Orlando this Thursday for the AB conference part of ESPN radio's fall football too, are brought to you by cold Dr. Pepper, the official Trink of fanmail straight ahead. He used to be the biggest voice of the NFL and now it just sounds like noise that's next Spain and Fitz Nicole Briscoe impresario on ESPN radio, Spain, and fits Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio, the ESPN app and Sirius XM channel eighty Jason Fitz in coal Briscoe who's in for Sarah, we're taking him up to brewers cardinals on ESPN radio at seven, thirty pm eastern tonight presented by progressive insurance, and you're not Sarah, you're Nicole. We're going to go straight to straight. Talk brought to you by straight talk wireless, best phones, best networks, no contracts, straight talk is your name is Nicole. See, see what I'm doing. I'm nail and things. Suspend buddy. I wanted to. I wanted. Just call me field the rest of the day. Now he's so much better looking than I am so. I wanted to to sort of pinpoint Jerry Jones because let's face it. When you say Jerry Jones, everybody listens. And that's been the way it's been for feels like a long time, and I'll go back to relocation. And when the chargers in Rams and raiders were all trying to on l. a. is a market, and everybody was trying to figure out who is going to go where many came back and credited Jerry Jones is being the voice that really commanded the process of figuring out how it was all going to go. And it's not that long ago that we were hearing things about Jerry Jones being the real Commissioner of the NFL. So he spoke on one zero, five, three, the fan in Dallas on Tuesday and said, the game played at the pro level needs to be different than the one played high-school college, the quotas, the way I see our future. I, I see a real serious emphasis on youth football, amateur football seat, reflected at the high school level than a step above that will be the collegiate level. And I see clergy game that certainly has a lot of finessing. It, but is a great game. It makes these kinds of adjustments we're talking about. But when it comes to pro football to use a boxing term, that's what you've put six ounce gloves on. That's. When you don't wanna fight with those ten ounce gloves and you don't want the those headgear. Everybody's really everybody's being really paid to go out and you paid a lot of money to go out in their Kerr, these types situations that have more risks in them. It's real important pro football distinguish itself as a very physical game relative to the game of college relative to the game high school, amateur. So he's coming in in this process and he's telling us Nicole that this is all on the heels of his complaints about roughing the passer. He wants a an acceptance of getting out there and getting after it, even if it means the hits or harder, and it looks rougher the question is when he speaks now and he says, things like that, does it even really matter anymore? So you were saying like, oh, for the longest time, if he spoke people with Mason. And I honestly was sitting there thinking, when is the last time I personally cared and even during the relocation conversations. I, I'm kind of over it. I honestly don't think I've cared what he's thought for a long time. Now I'm not a Dallas fan. I've never lived in Dallas. So I'm sort of out of that bubble and I just don't care. And that's funny to me because, like I said before, the Zeke, you'll Elliott stuff happened. Jerry Jones was you'd read the articles talking about how he was the defacto Commissioner and the real voice. Roger Goodell didn't have that Boyce and not only relocation, but also, let's remember that stadium, concessions, several stadiums across the league are actually run by a company owned by Jerry Jones so Cohen by Jerry Jones. So he's making money on all of these stadiums, and he makes money by helping other owners sell PSL's. So you've got all of these these opportunities kind of hand in in everybody's pizza. At some point, he's taking the little slice off of everybody. And I think from that came the perception that he was sort of the godfather of the NFL and of late, it feels like when he speaks, he's less like the godfather mo- more like the grandfather into your point, Nicole, even if his voice wasn't as resonant. The last few years that I feel like it was, it certainly feels like now it isn't resident and all. Well, I think so. I agree with you what I disagree with you because I. Agree with you. That doesn't feel as big as it as it used to. I disagree that I just I maybe I'm just in the minority here and I just, I don't really care. But if you're talking about sort of like the most important owners and the most important voices of an owner, the problem is you've got to have somebody to put ahead of him and I, I mean craft, but I still don't know if I'd put him ahead of Jerry Jones. You just mentioned, do you need an owner to put it at the head of the list? Because I think there was a perception that that's what it had to be. Let's remember that at this point according to fortune in two thousand seventeen, Jerry Jones was only the sixth most valuable owner of all the teams. So when you talk about having dollars in the pockets, he's only the sixth richest owner in the NFL and I'm looking at it saying the rest of the league. If you're, you know, if you're Bob Kraft, if you're Paul Allen the owner of the Seahawks. If you know if you're the peculiar family that owns the Buffalo Bills, maybe you're tired of having this perception that one or owner rules over everybody. I mean, that's in theory, that's Roger Goodell's job and the rest of the owners. If you feel like you're a multimillionaire billionaire fact and your an owner and under represented what better way to stop that. Then by chopping off Jerry Jones at the knees, that's sort of a two headed thing though, because if you can have the power and not have the face. Isn't that sort of an advantage. If you don't have ego, but how many you can get to that level without. I can't comprehend that because I'm so far out of that stratosphere that I can't even put myself in the same conversation because I, I can't comprehend having that much money and my ego wouldn't fit into this room. I don't think I if I did so it's like, I, I can't really speak to that. Do you think though that Jerry Jones is. Sort of like his own victim like he's you mentioned that the quote about the football needs to be played at a different level and blah, blah, blah. Like he said that on his weekly radio appearance, right? Like back in the day, get off my lawn. Day you like that was sort of a coveted thing in Dallas in when Jerry Jones spoke, you had to really try to get what he said and now with Twitter and social media and internet radio, and an all sorts of ways of finding it. It's not like a coveted soundbite anymore because everyone can hear it. It's not just a Dallas thing. The whole world can hear it and he's it's like a supply and demand thing. There's just too much supply well in, is there some theory to that in the process of giving everybody all of this apply. You've only proven that maybe you don't have that the same level of brilliance and genius that so many people presumed for so long. I mean that that's part of this is to your point is the inaccessibility of owners at one point made it much easier to to sort of deify them to put them up on a pedestal. Now that we've heard more from owners across the league in other owners become. In today's social media society, more sensible, it allows you to have more judgment towards your ownership, sich ownership situation. That wasn't a conversation. We were having fifty feel like you need to have the owner to like point fingers at and dislike. 'cause I sort of feel like that's become Roger Goodell. I mean, they're paying him eight billion dollars a year like it should be him. We should point fingers at him that he should be the scapegoat for all things. Right. Well, yes, and it's easy. Everybody wants somebody to blame so the owners can let Roger Goodell be blamed for everything and they can also continue a narrative where maybe they all feel that they belong on a level on a level playing field and allowing allowing Goodell to take the heat, allows them to do that. That's straight talk wireless nationwide coverage on America's largest. And most bendable four g. l. t. networks, straight ahead. Most NFL players have had an opinion on the new rules this season. Our next guest will be no different Redskins corner. Josh Norman is rated to have his voice heard. He. He joins us next on Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio. Computer execute twelve point, four p. operation. Optimizing algorithm running encryption, packet alpha, Knight, Knight. Oh, I don't feel so good. What? What is it computer? Is it hot in here? It feels hot in here. I feel a little clammy. I should lie down or something a computer with a virus. Surprising. What's not surprising how much you could save by switching to Geico those oysters. Rockefeller were a mistake. Geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more Spain and fits it, Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio, the ESPN app and siriusxm channel eighty. I'm Jason Fitz hanging out with Nicole Briscoe who's in for Sarah, and we're taking you up to the brewers cardinals on ESPN radio at seven thirty eastern tonight. Guys, you washed way too much football. Nothing makes up for your football of session. Like as a prize from one eight hundred flowers dot com to order a dozen multicolored roses plus an extra bouquet and. Vase for just twenty nine ninety nine. All you gotta do is go to one eight hundred flowers dot com. Slash ESPN. We're gonna head straight to the shell Pennzoil performance line. We're Redskins corner, Josh Norman, Georgia's the boys and Girls Club of America hosting it seventy first annual national youth of the year gala tonight at the national building museum in Washington, DC, Josh Norman, walk in the blue carpet prior to the event where six finalists are vying for the title of national youth of the year. Josh tell us what's going on tonight. Man. You know, finale and you know, all of them if no parts of the country came in and they gave him the best dealer and brought it to day. And now we get the side who's the going to take on the issue that we would say sports. So it's a big ordeal. It really used wing it all or think knew who you years going to be the sh- Brenly proud, the work they put into this point. Now, part of the reason you have the time to do this and you're able to do this. You guys are already on a BI week. It's really early to have a buy week. How does that affect you as a player. Yeah, is the early we got this whole thing is just gosh, not only in this deep loan plunge of thirteen games that there's brise like, oh, think like somewhere around we wanna catch a break and then you know, or you know, allows it, you got to play off. So it's just it's just, you know to think that we have on it, you know, Paul live, but it same time. You have to be, you know on it and welcome in the fact that you get to play those games. You get to go out there and show. We can't week out why you are the best at what you do and when you do that, you know, it goes to show and hopefully we can be that team issue would showed it. We are valuable enough to to be thinned. We were having the conversation just a little bit ago about Washington sort of being a team that so far maybe flying a little bit. Under the radar this season. Why do you think that that is? You know, we always have been. Did they're probably forty that was happening and you know what to do, what you get. You mean the things that we have, you know those. By even do good. They weren't more. We do bad. Oh, we try. So is you you get that man? If it's DC though DC is you know, the nation's capital when you get all of that, you know, in one, you know the pout politics and everything about it off is just, you know, that's what happens Erin day. When you come here you play, you try to win. That's all they try to win in anything you do. And sometimes you follow up short is just situations that happen and or you're trying to overcome. But other than that, I don't know as are playing bought. Thanks for talking to Redskins corner, Josh Norman on the shell Pennzoil performance line. Now, almost every game. This season has had the story line of penalties, too many too. Often. People saying it's too soft. I can't have a defensive superstar on and not ask where you stand on the roughing, the passer penalties that are being called. Look, I think you know, we all starting to sound like a, you know, a screen orchestra. There we all are trying to the same tone in in a way because you know they, they hear it. They, they hear the noise and always starting to get louder and louder for soon you're going to be a stampede because as hard to watch you really hard to watch. You see, gene, see some plays of being made and his football. It's not power. Puff. Football does play back when he was in school, though, is real thing real push star flying. She got a Doug guys got that way get taken down to the Garowe. That is the earth that you're meeting have been driven by force of a man. There's going to come in full speed, and that's just what happens. That's the object game that's being played. You guys be features trending for some. Play it by it, and he said that Utah take away the thing that makes football so far. And that has been in the third and that my friend is really is. Is pretty sad. But like I said on those, I'm pretty sure it's going to get brought up. It ain't year has the defender, of course, always cringes, stuff like that because I just go out another seal when they can't hit their checkbook alone with, you know their team losing. Hey, I would just like to say I played powder puff in high school and I broke, I broke a finger you doing some damage playing powder. But you guys some team, they'd be action. You gotta admit they do be extra and they do go hard. Because I'm just tiny billion from pinkie see, actually my ring finger, but anyway, getting off topic when you are sitting in team meetings and you've got all of these roughing the passer penalties, and you've got the other defensive rule changes that come into effect. How are you being coached this year compared to last year? Oh, no, honestly, not being coast on. She's being told what you can do is what you can do and you go out there and play and you try to, you know, if as best you can, but they game, can you really come up on something that you pay learned from? You know, peewee Ali open to the pros know is how do you go back and change the polity? How would you go back and reprogram it gene? I mean, this is something that you have really, you know, you get lost in shuffling sometimes you know those planes the habit. I. Nope, we can't avoid them. They're unbelievable plays. So you got people that come out and make me move that don't play the game, and they don't know that you can't pull up, can't do this and they. So, oh, some people can't, but he's does not the same play. It'd be may about terms every play is going to be different. It's not gonna be the same time. Insane play that happens over and over and inside to see that. You know, that's already in short anyway. I mean everything off. And so of course they wanna see, moves going more. Thanks man wants more everything. We give them so much stuff. This wins the defense, go ahead. Car. Sure. They. Start started. They gonna take it from. I don't think if been offense, but I don't get it from the bar. There's just, you know, there's this fax, man. It really is. You started looking things in a way it's been going not trying to discredit any might about doing what they're doing is just the fact as a matter of was real. I don't wanna stop. We're talking to Redskins corner, Josh Norman on the shell Pennzoil performance line. Speaking of offense, we'll cook before we let us go. You get a front row seats in the newest guys on the Team Stars, Alex Smith, Adrian Peterson, what have you seen there that you love and just love who they are really ship. No live there. You know, they have us spearing. No was going on and they can actually go through the mechanics of what they learnt experience in go out there and put on the feeling. There's nothing best in having that experience. I mean, no matter what you go. If you know that something is not gonna fly gets terrible situation. They come up and you can avoid pick by taking the sack this experience. So and if you go bake thumb when you know in a defensive back break on a ball and they overshoot it, they'll move to the high post and you score way that's better moon, and then you turn around and you look at it eight p he's just all day guy. Love that bad ever since he came here, it was. I should. I just was like always an apparition of Dan. She high. He works in how you play any last week, a t all day. He was like the whole year, but the actually see him Joe. Could being get out. Have that burst man? I'm probably hitting them when saying only team is believable. He's able to buy he able to move me. It's just awesome guy in great teammate. Really. You guys can check him out with the boys and Girls Club America checkout BG c. a. dot org shot onto Denzel Washington. Tonight's, a Josh. Enjoy it. Thanks for joining us on the shell. Pennzoil performance line, ma'am. Thank you guys for having me on, then you guys you say, because. Always fun to talk to Josh get triple action protection for optimal engine performance was shell v, power, nitro plus premium gasoline. Straight ahead. Ryan Fitzpatrick in the bucks came down to earth last night. The team has said, they know who will start next week, but when will they make the announcement find out next pain and Fitz Nicole Briscoe in for Sarah on ESPN radio and the ESPN app, Spain and Fitz, Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio, the ESPN app and siriusxm channel eighty Jason Fitz dancer with Nicole Briscoe in for Sarah, we're taking you up to car knows. You know what I think that that's that's just a right of passage AM. I mean here if I go here I go Asari. So do I it? It feels better coming from you than it does. We're going to take you up to brewers cardinals on ESPN radio at seven thirty pm eastern tonight. We're presented by progressive insurance, your thoughts, welcome on the one, eight hundred flowers dot com. Twitter feed at Spain and Fitz at Chason fits at Rb underscore m. r. s to get to Nicole and look part of the conversation that everybody wants to have right now has to do with the buccaneers coming down to earth. Last night. Ryan Fitzpatrick was Fitch tragic in the first half tried to bring the magic back late. You like the Fitch, tragic line, you thank you very much it. It was not pretty and then in the end. But in the end we all thought there was going to be some magical way that he could pull it off. It doesn't happen. The bucks lose the game. And now we get into the curious window because they've told us the organization said, hey. We know who starting, but we're not saying anything, and we're all trying to speculate on whether it'll be James Winston back from his suspension that comes in and starts or whether you leave Fitzpatrick in so Nicole, where you on this one, why would you start gave us Winston? I mean, legitimately, why would you start? It's not like you're bringing back. I realized he was your number one pick a couple years ago, but it's not like you're bringing back Jay miss Winston that has the skill set and the consistency of a Tom Brady or an Aaron Rodgers, or drew Brees, or even an Alex Smith or Kirk with a k. cousins. Right? You're bringing back the guy who's been up and down at best the last three years. And he hasn't been with your team since the last game of the preseason. And he's really like, you're going to go away from the guy who's been doing really good things for you. Yes, they didn't win last night, but the first three weeks come on. It's magic. Well, I have James Winston, so there's that, oh, well, I mean, okay. That's fair. That's a fair point. I, I think there is sort of a curve though, right? You have to think about the fact that he's been away from the game. The fact that James is somebody who realistically has struggled with accuracy at times in his in his career, comes back to the game after being away from it for three weeks, he hasn't thrown any passes to any of the guys that are out there. He hasn't had any practice time practice time is limited as it is when you get into the regular season. So he's been out of the rhythm of everything and he's gonna be taking on a bears defense that frankly is great. So do you really wanna put James Winston in a position where a rusty James that has to be picked up off the ground all night by Khalil Mack all day by Khalil Mack? I wouldn't. I wouldn't know. No, no, I just I, it doesn't. It doesn't make sense to me. You stick with the guy who's at least been? Yes. Yesterday was a little ugly, particularly in the first half with all of the interceptions. But Fitzpatrick I, I really struggle getting Fitzpatrick out because it just wants to come outfits magic. But he's, he's been the guy for the first three weeks of this season that let me numbers were there and he has. He has a good chemistry there with the receivers, and I just it. It may not be the hottest hand because they didn't win last night, but ride the hot hand. And I think that the writing is a little bit on the wall in Tampa. There mean I feel a little bit like they're prepared to make a break from Jamie's. I mean, where's where's the sign? 'age if you're down in Tampa and you're looking at the stadium, where's the sign? It's not there. That's an interesting point because you're right. They did take all the signs down and what have I talked about so much of the last couple of weeks that a quarterback is a brand and brand sells tickets. And as I said yesterday, little kids come to a stadium by cotton candy because of the brand that you have a quarterback that has to be part of the conversation. Now, I will say Adam Schefter disagrees with you shefty when on record talking about what he thinks the buccaneers are going to do, this is what he said. I believe that Tampa still wants to resign James long term. And I think that they want him as the long term quarterback. I don't think that I don't care fits keeps this pace up all year long. Ryan fits magic for sixteen games, shorter them like winning a Super Bowl to me. I, I still think they wanna re-sign James long-term. Stuns me to hear that stuns me. Why? Because look what look what happened in Philly. He's like short of winning a Super Bowl, Nick foles won them a Super Bowl. He's not their quarterback. He never wise and I'm fine with the fact that Fitzpatrick is probably gonna crumble. At some point, I'm fine with the fact that his his experience expectancy in how many years has he been in the league at this point, but he's not going to be the future of the organization like father time is going to deny him of that. That's fine. But I feel like. I am just like my moral compass in me standing on some sort of like, oh, he cannot play. I just, I just want j. missed half to work for it. I want him to to have a gigantic piece of humble pie enough to comment and be like, you know what? I need to unseat this guy. I need to work for this now at any to prove that I can be the leader of this team. And that doesn't mean that I can throw footballs and doesn't mean that I can score at well, I need to truly be leader and for all that that means for the organization will Nicola. I also look at it at some point, say, I don't see the the advantage from a business standpoint for the buccaneers doing something next year. His salary goes up to about twenty million dollars, which in today's worlds fairly a value at this point. And then after that they can still franchise them. So they have a couple of years left, and I realize you don't wanna get into a Kirk with a k. as you said, cousins conversation where you have a year by year by year situation, but maybe you do when you've got a quarterback that you don't necessarily know how much you can trust off the field. So. To me if I'm the buccaneers then I think James is the guy. I still have two full seasons. I make a absolute and make him sweat it out and make improve it of the at the very least what you're doing is you're making him prove that he is the type of person that can be on the billboard, that he is the type of person that can sell cotton candy to little kids and that he gives value to the organization off the field. 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