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Retrospective

The Sustainable Futures Report

13:41 min | 5 d ago

Retrospective

"Hello and welcome. I'm antony and this is selection from these sustainable futures report a weekly podcast on the climate crisis and measures to deal with it. Yep i know that sounds. I'm vicious what i tried to do. Each week is report on the consequences of the climate crisis and the technical social and political actions tools. Getting it under control. I scan the press the broadcast media. And i use google alerts to find my stories listless and patrons contact me with information and ideas i into you experts and sometimes people interview me. I always try to get back to the original source of the story may be an academic paper a new report or press release and i publish the links together with the full text to be episode on the website which is www dot sustainable futures dot report. His a selection from previous episodes. Most of them are rosa. Be recent although. I started this podcast back in september. Two thousand seven like this. It's the economy stupid. That was bill. Clinton's catchphrase when he was fighting george bush senior in nineteen ninety. Two things have changed since then now. It's the environment stupid. Has george bush got that message yet but by twenty sixteen. The style had changed a bit. Yes here's as episode thirty eight of the sustainable futures report for two thousand sixteen. I know he's not quite christmas. But you can't go on. You know you want to start over. That was the white beard. Oh yes he's made onto the day right. Now you've unwrapped it's you're gonna have to put it together. No batteries required before we get down to the seasonal sustained abilities own this week. The nation's waste will be thirty percent higher than normal only thirty percent. Still nice to see some growth in the humming. One billion christmas cards could end up in landfill instead of being recycled. I hope they won't be yours and his water from twenty twenty. Hello and welcome to the sustainable futures report. I'm anthony j and it's friday. The twenty first of february this week extinction rebellion has been digging up a lawn and calling up a storm in other news. Microsoft is committed to going carbon negative carbon labelling seems to be back and drax claims. The uk is getting cleaner because they're burning wood while the government is making plans to shut down. You'll stove the that burns. Would jeff bezos ceo amazon is throwing money ten billion dollars the climate crisis. But is it enough. Political economists and pettifor says that a shortage of money will never be a problem with dealing with climate change. the main obstacle is mobilizing. The skills and resources to do what's needed here are some of the people i've interviewed in the last twelve months. Only sustainable futures anthony davidson from big bomb. About food. captain anderson carbon balance rebecca henderson about capitalism michael linda about nuclear fusion and so panels on steroids. James dyck exit university be to adenjer all sustainable waste management kevin wilhelm all negotiation james spencer on oil markets professor julius steinbeck on climate justice on economic inequality. Pita kroll on sustainable investment cafe all geothermal energy domestic heating and several others before lockdown. I can take my recorder out on the street in march two thousand nineteen. The school strikes took place across the world. Hello i'm anthony day and this is all get back to you in a second lost friday one point. Four million students in twenty eight countries across the world marched for climate action. Here's what i heard of my local protest. My name feta up leaders an authority news. Stop bianca stunned by. They take decisions. Which means the upon it and the people living on it going to be worse off. They can't stand idly by unburied off. We really just want to fight back and speak out for future because we feel as if we've been failed by older generations to do something about the climate crisis especially the we just it's about inspiring on tonight and young people stopped and take action later that year extinction rebellion protested in leads. Why are you here. I'm here because extinction. Rebellion has declared. There is a broken contract between the people and the government. We're here to wake people up where we hit to raise awareness and push climate breakdown of the public and political agenda. That's why he's just too big yellow boat on holiday. Big yellow vote on the bridge. This is a symbol is become an icon. All's the rebellion. We apologize for the disruption. We can think of no way we've written to counsel as written to the mp's we've done petitions. We've had veered watches in london and elsewhere. Nothing has happened. This is an emergent to something different unintentionally day. Actually they give you a little badge so you can find these sustainable future support. Just google that good. So you'll hear as a rebel doctor. I am So why are you here. Why here's a doctor Climate change poses the greatest health currently probably advert in his humanity. So do you think coming to this. Protest here today leads. You're gonna make a difference absolutely in october. Twenty nineteen i followed extinction rebellion to london. It's about quarter pounds nine on monday. The seventh of october. And i just arrived at king's cross in central london for the international rebellion. Bright i'm in trafalgar square. There aren't very many people here. Toll there are. A few police vans on the police helicopter him. As a police helicopter was just hovering overhead. I saw four people who were glued to the road and glued to each other. They prevent to be interviewed. Some people have decided after being spoken to by the police to get up and leave the middle of the street but at least one person has now been arrested and taken away towards the police are talking to other people who are still sitting in the middle of the street we back. Sometimes people interview me crazy. Welcome to another episode of mama told. I'm your host modest mouse august. Today is the presenter of this sustainable future report a weekly podcast and blog on energy resources pollution and the climate crisis crazy birds without any further. Ado i would like to welcome anthony day and then there's julia hartley brewer of talk radio this days environmental consultant and presenter of the sustainable futures report podcast. Good morning to you entity. Good moment holiday. Yes i have. I've always take many flights as i can't enjoy my holidays. Shorts policy Read by labor party yesterday. These net zero carbon emissions otherwise. This talk of twenty thirty is completely nutley unachievable. This is going to involve a major change in how ordinary people live their lives as what they eat whether they can heat the hopes how they travel whether they go on holiday abroad this is going to evolve a huge tax increases to pay for it. This is i mean this is if it is achievable. It is only achievable with an awful very angry people right but we have a climate crisis an all the dreadful things that you've mentioned we'll be forced upon us if we don't do something about the climate crisis it's going to take us because the climate will collapse and the collapse and so two basis for that claim while very vip see. If they've ever said that well ninety nine point nine percent they did say that at any their reports that in those words said they didn't say the collapsed. I mean that literally is a statement. That's i would expect that of a sixteen year old swedish girl. But i wouldn't expect that from from affirmative mental consultant. But this is the point is. This isn't a sensible conversation. Is that the environment will collapse. That has absolutely no meaning whatsoever is scaremongering. Knowlton's well now. Let me explain them. What i mean. Things are getting hotter How much is how much does the world warmed by the last one hundred and fifty s quite a law hammered just over degree does just under one percent actually yes. It is as that's quite a lots of energy into the weather systems which is causing drought causing intense weather. I think you'll find that the ipc again. International international capital on climate change has actually said it's too early to say with any confidence whatsoever that any extreme weather is being caused by climate change. You really should read these reports for environmental causes. Some people said the. Ipc is subject to political pressure. Be far too conservative. What it said an open. All the evidence is that she'd scientific evidence behind those reports before they are politicized is that she rather more conservative than the political documents. But we're going to have to leave this. Because i don't feel we're going to get much use out of his conversation today. Appreciate joining us. Present to the sustainable. You can't win the hall and finally let me take you back to the very first episode. The time for doubt has passed. That's what u n secretary-general banke moon said at this week's climate change summit the chief u. n. climate scientists r- agenda chari said. The time is up for inaction billed as the largest of a high level meeting on climate change the event reemphasize the commitment of global governments to action and global. Governments are still talking about it. Fourteen years on. that's it you'll support via patriot is always welcome. Because the sustainable futures report gets no advertising sponsorship oh subsidies go to patriotdepot dot com that's p. a. t. all our n. Dot com slash sf. Aw you can find links to the thirty plus episodes on the website at www dot sustainable futures dot report. I know the apple pulled costs site. Says there are one hundred episodes but in fact they're all now at least three hundred and thirty three as i said you can find links and the latest episodes on the website texts prior to october. Twenty twenty are at anthony day dot blog spot dot com. The audio episodes are at sustainability dot lipson dot com for example. The huntley bro interview clip comes to the episode of the twenty seventh of september twenty nineteen. You'll hear a lot more. If you seek out the original. Next week i have an interview with beto pekao. The pilots who flew a solar powered aircraft around the world. His solar impulse foundation has assembled a thousand solutions to climate problems to miss it. 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What to do at CSM Outside of the Conference with James Spencer, Patrick Berner and Monique Caruth

PT Pintcast - Physical Therapy

33:28 min | 1 year ago

What to do at CSM Outside of the Conference with James Spencer, Patrick Berner and Monique Caruth

"Hey Jimmy here before we get started today just wanted to say thanks to Arias medical staffing for supporting the show Aureus. They're the experts in medical staffing with rewarding travel travel and full-time PT PTA. Jobs available nationwide for skilled therapists. Like you travel the country build your resume or make new friends or you will find the perfect job in a location. That's calling you and they'll provide you with full support every step of the way a U. R. E. US Medical Michael Dot com eight. Oh Am twenty twenty that stands for annual Orthopedic Meeting of the Academy of Orthopedic Physical Therapy their big big conference April April third and fourth in Twenty Twenty in Minneapolis Saint Paul Mall of America head Spine and shoulder disorders integration over isolation is the topic this year. What will you learn? Why should you go highlighting the orthopedic investigator factors affecting patients with concussion? Injuries Interconnection of head and neck complex relationship between the neck can shoulder lab breakouts focused on skill acquisition. That's what you're going to get aerial Giordano Rob Lendl Joseph Gouges Paul Ludwig and Lieutenant Colonel James t mills are featured speakers checkout more at or so pt dot Org Blue Hill kind of attraction to it is that you're setting the insurance overlords. You're not beholden to anybody. But you in the patient was patient on from you what you have to offer them. I think it's really rewarding work because Euler cutting out some of the control so you're able to do what people really need practice looking at. CSM previews we. We do a lot of those look at it some programming most of the time giving you some things to look forward to maybe attend as you go to a big meeting today bringing James Spencer. James Ferry collected background travel physical therapist for a long time. Now he's doing something completely different in terms of what working for a facility and a little bit of concierge. PT Plus lives in Colorado. So I want to a little bit of local insight into the things that you should do outside of the conference center. Yeah I'm talking about what should you do while you're in Denver. You'RE GOING TO BE IN DENVER. Do Cool Denver things so we get inside James's brain there and talk a little bit about the Academy of Orthopedic Physical Therapist which he is a member in good standing of that Academy episode is brought to you by Owens recovery signs. They're a single source for. PT's looking for certification in personalized blood flow restriction rehabilitation training and the equipment. You need to apply properly in clinical practice. Find Online at Owens recovery. Science Dot Com on that Website research information about BF. Our training and application. And if you'd like to get certified Johnny and the team. They are the leaders in B. F. R. Certification. So see them first and listen to them. First Johnny's got his own podcast on itunes. The Owens Recovery Science podcast. The best conversations happen at happy happy hour. Welcome to ours forum award. This is the P.. T. podcast here's your host physical therapist. Jimmy Mackay leadoff like we usually do by saying thank you thank you. Thank you The reviews on itunes those are great selfishly because of an ego maniac but also because it lets us know the number one that someone's listening a number two what you WanNa hear when people give us their insight. It kind of helps us into programming. What else do we get on the show? Who else should we get on the show? So thank you Sharon. Sharon stuff online is the the biggest thing you can give really telling a friend telling a colleague and subscribing to the podcast on whatever platforms you. Listen to audio. Would that be I tunes the Almighty tunes or spotify Google play or a million other pod catchers out there so thank you thank you thank you. We've been doing a lot of pre stuff stuff and we're gonNA continue that tradition but completely spin it on its head as we bring back James Spencer to the show. Welcome back man to be back here. We've looked at a a lot of programming done previews we do that before we go to a conference I find some stuff I think is interesting. We bring the person WHO's presenting or an author on talk about it. It gives people some some insight into some programming. They may want to see or some things they might want to look up. But you and I want to do something a little bit different because your local to Denver Ver- where CSM is going to be this year. So you got like inside knowledge. And that's what we want to pick your brain four. I Yeah I hope so I hang Out in Denver a bit. I live A little ways outside in Aspen Colorado. So you know that's really what I want to push everybody to either before or after go get on. The ski slopes in a day or two out in the mountain yeah. I'm trying very hard to not say where the beer flows like wine but there it goes. I just said it like geography wise because I been there before to Denver Not Aspen. What's the distance between the two you know at the girls lives? We're not too far but I spent four hour drive okay. Up Over Mountain Mountain passes and around the hills and then back down our little valley here all right so Wilbert shorter in the summer. I said you were local. I'm in New York your your local to Denver. But you've spent some time there and so what I wanted to do is pick the brain of someone who knows it way better than me because again. I don't know the difference distance between Denver and Aspen. Aspen they could have been next to each other. You could tell me that I wouldn't difference so when people because Colorado Aspen Denver like it's a destination I mean it's a place people oh put on their calendar to go to. I wanted to give people some insight into some things. They must do outside of the conference. Yes coining corning l'excellent this fantastic go learn go network do the whole nine but also make sure to do something cool because as my dad told me. Hey man one day we're all GONNA be dirt dirt which sounds really morbid but what it means is do some cool stuff while you have the opportunity especially when you're in a cool city like Denver so if someone's coming into to Denver you you know what what's on your list to tell him. Do you know I think it's Kinda racking. My brain of all the different things have gone into Denver for the year and One Is Red Rock. It's not real close to the conference center but it's you know. Maybe a thirty minute Uber Ride and last night looking at PRICES ON UBER or lift. It was thirty bucks to get over there and they have these great outdoor concert fully natural amphitheatre just a really unique place and and there's not a whole lot going on for concerts during. CSM There is some local music there but they have hiking trails and the the Colorado Music Hall of fame and a bunch of other stuff that you could easily fill a day where it's it's not just an evening. Yeah Red rocks killer suggestion number one all out myself. I'm Dave Matthews Band Fan and they recorded a pretty great Album out there live album had a chance is to To kind of you know. Hike the steps hike around there a little bit. It is worth the trip. If if you're looking to get out and do some moving maybe WANNA get up early one day or you're GonNa stay a day later come a day early yet. Red Rocks being not terribly close but also not terribly far and you mentioned the museum as a guy who used to work in rock radio. Oh man they got some really cool like guitars and just photos of the legendary performers Supernova. So if your music fan red rocks pretty cool to check out. I'd say it's definitely worth the ride there and back Walker on over there. There really is We had Matt Tuttle from the Denver Nuggets on not long ago and I actually creeped on his Twitter instagram and saw that they actually do some Denver Nuggets preseason training they make the I think it was just the rookie. Though they're making the rookies run the steps at red rocks which which is Kinda cool that even the even the the Denver Nuggets are using red rocks as a way to get some exercise. That's so cool. I thought that through some great shots. Heck yeah moving on what else so at red rocks definitely pretty good thing to start with. What else do you suggest people check out? I think A areas of the city to just hang out larimer square square is known for its restaurants nightlife and and everything going on there but then and then drilling where I've hung out. It's on Blake Street. Kinda leads away from their up towards course feel hill. And there's some cool places to hang out along there and and I really you know when I think of Denver. I think you gotta Lay from rise on course field up there as well mentioning mentioning chorus field. We do WanNa bring up something that is you know local to Denver but also specific to CSM PT pub. Night is going to be on Thursday that that is the Thursday the thirteenth of of CSM from six attend the PTA. Pub night will be at Jackson's Denver. That is a bar right across the street right from From course fields. Here's what I know about them. The sports bar lots of room lots of beers on tap and not far from the conference itself. So I'm GonNa make sure checkup I got pt pub night. We'll be doing some interviews live on site from that night at Jackson's Denver so we'll see you guys out there. If you want more information about that and you want to preregister preregister maybe get yourself a free t shirt give those sometimes follow at night on twitter all right so that's that's CSM. I'm excited fingers crossed on the the weather. A ton of snow up there this year in Colorado or has it looked like for you guys. You know a lot of snow in the mountains. We'd be getting little storms and it's fantastic out here but but but Denver's really Variable this time if you're looking earlier this week it was Thirty degrees they're supposed to be seventy this coming week. It could be anything and everything. That's cleanser is so variable as New York looking at Denver. You know all we know is was just super cold and then that's what I've heard from people like listen man. Denver could be just as you said seventy or thirty so I guess pack accordingly when you're headed out there to the mile high city all right so that's our that's are inside. Look with with James Spencer Sam. Let's talk about something specific to you. I give people just kind of snapshot of what you did talk about the first time we had you on the show but I think your story is pretty pretty cool to tell again just your journey through travel pt. And what you're able to do with it. Yeah I mean it's been a a lot of years since we've talked about my travel so until about three years ago I was traveling with my wife and I just kind of unintentionally intentionally we ended up coming out to Colorado in the wintertime and then we were going elsewhere in the summertime so often go back to New England in the summer. I'm from author author and she's from Maine and often go to Hawaii in the summertime. We did that war about ten or eleven years we kept it going for awhile and it was fantastic was an awesome lifestyle but eventually came around. I haven't kids and needling needing to settle down a little bit here in Colorado I whenever travel. PT comes comes up and people talk about really the things that they're looking for. Someone brings up flexibility. You're the Guy I talk about. I'm like I know this guy's Spencer. He would do like Hawaii. Colorado Massachusetts Colorado Wherever Colorado and. It was just cool to see that. That's an option like it's not like hey you could do that. It's like hey someone did that. So it's completely possible so I just love I just love bringing that up. And you've you sent me what I thought was the coolest pint cast souvenir in your ever. Tell people what you mailed you you you mailed something to me and I opened it simply confused. But I fell in love immediately Hawaiian coconut and And and we're over on this rural island in Hawaii and and I don't WanNa say it's name because I don't want to get it out there too much. Ah I guess we'd Love Hawaii but not this way and there's this guy get area in the Post Office he inspects the coconuts. Make sure they're not carrying any decision. Coconut weeble and and I painted up the coconut and you slap stance on it and stick it right in the mailbox and offer goes just shows up in the mail wherever you'd like so yeah one day one day I'm sitting there and and A coconut with stamps. On it legitimately was not wrapped. Arrives but ahead pete the pint. Our podcast logo just painted on the side. That will about a whole lot Mike. My whole fantasy league got some of my coconuts with tracks on your it is. It is brilliant kind of my move that summer. That's that's still in my possession shirow display it proudly so you mentioned having kids and settling down and not doing the travel thing that you did so well for so long. But I'd say you settled in a pretty cool malaria. So what if you got into now wanted to get into this niche this other thing our profession. I don't know so flexible to use a physical therapy upon a lot of range of motion there in terms of your career you're doing a little bit of concierge. Pt and that's the thing that's you know fifteen years ago wasn't possible but completely possible now. Oh Yeah Yeah you know I mean you know that there's just there's so much we can do without passion whether that'd be clinically or I've always felt like if I ever got really tired but clinical stuff you know you could go to add because she got you insurance where you could do. I mean there's so many places you can go and we talked a little bit about the traveling I miss that so much just all all the different experiences that I got through that what I have settled down here in a in a pretty good situation In in in a in a fulltime job at a hospital but my wife and I started Ajax physical therapy a mobile concierge peachy practice primarily her on it but I dabble in it as well and and that's taking cash base based pt to to people who see the value in it or loan to pay for it and you know around here. There is an actual an affluent population that we thought those would be our people that we are really getting but we're finding that it's religious locals who want good. PT Want it to come to them and see value in having the right person working on. How did you When you when you hung the slate as you say how did you go about trying to find? Those people are connect or just letting them know that you know you exist and that this service is now available to them from you largely word of mouth around your won't put up a website and facebook page and did all those sorts of things which I think have driven a couple of people with the largely. It's just been people we know saying you know talking to someone and that person needs some physical therapy. I don't know where to go. Oh Hey my my friends Keaton. Jane are Therapists and they've started their own business. And why are you tried contacting. I'm not that's really where people have come from as great just shows the variety of different settings settings that you can create in our profession. You can say. Hey I'll I'm GONNA do this on the side. I got a buddy ZAC Harmon who is out in Colorado. As well kind of started the same way had a fulltime job and then went to a couple of days a week I think was his you know. He wanted to dip a toe in it and see if it was viable and eventually he saw it was and I think that's I think that's that's really great. I remember hearing about concierge. P. T. or this idea not even that long ago I was GONNA say ten years ago but it had to be less and people were were saying campy done not sustainable annable. Don't bother going into it and now you see more and more. It is one hundred percent sustainable. And I'm guessing rewarding. What do you get out of it you know in terms of the intangible rewards you know I mean the the real kind of attraction to it is that you're setting the insurance overlords? Yeah you know you're you're not really. You're not beholden to anybody but you in the patient. What the patient on from you what you have to offer them? I think it's really rewarding work. Because you're you're you're cutting out some of the control so you're able to do what people really need. I think it's a great foreign practice you know I think we've hit on a lot of benefits. Just help expletives it is an and higher really able physically therapy more going to the patient I mean we say that a lot is make sure you meet the customer. You meet the patient where they are. I mean concierge. PT housecall physical therapy. That's the living embodiment of it. So I'm glad to To see you. You're living that to flexibility ability right. I mean that's that's really what your your travel career got to teach you or give. You was this flexibility and and continuing that but you did mention that you were also working for a facility. parttime at least is it slope side. Is that legit. Yeah Yeah I've been working so coming out here for the last however many years I've been working at the hospital little and occasionally at this little clinic that we have slope side on snowmass mountain. It originally started just as urgent care and emergency side of overtime Talton outpatient practice and just a few weeks ago I moved in into their full-time so Getting a little bit more skiing on my lunch breaks and staying scheme which I love that. That's great that's cool to hear here with James Spencer on the show If you can if you want to follow him online his His socials as the kids were calling it. These days on twitter on facebook at Hobo health. Begin the Ortho sexually mentioned advocacy. We're we're actually pairing up with the Ortho sections pretty excited to talk about it. Their annual meeting annual orthopedic. Meeting Twenty twenty. Have you been to one of these before. Yeah absolutely this was coming up April third and fourth focus. This year they do pick a focus head spine shoulder disorders integration over isolation. And it's going to be mall of America Minnesota not in the food court. I asked I got excited. But it's GonNa be at the Conference Center at the mall of America When I bring that up I know you're an active member of the orthopedic? I was GONNA say Section Academy of Orthopedic Physical Therapy. Pardon me you know. What about this meeting excites you? You know when I wear probably five or six years ago. I just found it to be great programming. You know I have a hard time this point finding good continuing ed or finding something that really drives me you know I think. CSM and the conferences are top of our profession. You know you get experts talking about things but at the same time huge student enrolling fellow population there them so so sometimes. I'm just looking for more advanced content and I think I found that in McAdams annual meeting just a higher level. It pushed me to think a little bit. It was new and it was great and it was coming from from the exports in our field. Yeah when we were looking into this one I. I've never been might be palm sugar this year. It's an April in Minnesota which is a pretty good time to be a minnesota. What I liked ached about it when I started doing the research and digging big enough to be interesting to get those people in the room that you're talking about but not overwhelming in terms of not so big that you feel like like you're just roaming around and it's you know? CSM its strength is its size but also part of its weakness can be. It's is what looked into so far having not been but just what I've heard and seen is that. AOL Look Big enough to be relevant and good but not so big that you're going to get swallowed up by it The one when I went through maybe at one hundred fifty people at it. We've been having tactic hands on manipulation labs and that sort of thing and that's the type of program that they try to bring. Yeah big focus on that. I know that they're listening to their audience as they prepare these each and every year there sponsor in the show right about now but One of their big focuses when they listen to the people who've taken the course or who would like to come back again is is that we just mentioned which that hands on component. Yes so I WANNA learn. WanNa listen but they don't WanNa do. I WANNA be able to question. I want to be a feel feel and then ask a question again instead of just being a gigantic lecture hall the Entire Day so details about that I'd be a bad podcastone. Must have shared that with the Ortho. PT Dot Org details for the annual Orthopedic Meeting Twenty Twenty available there. Anything anything else. You WanNa talk about that. We can squeeze in a top of mind. It's on your on your brain. No I didn't have anything prepared but but when you say that for some reason twenty twenty keeps coming to my mind autonomous practice during during profession direct access the other points. That aren't right up front of my brain and as we were talking about concierge. PT and travel PT and and Thinking about how some aspects of that. We're really heightening. I just hope that's something that everybody's talking about whether they're practicing is is really trying to provide the basketball. You can't and as experts in non surgical management musculoskeletal conditions. Yeah I think that's the talking one of our profession with with you doing so much advocacy we should let the. It's there Your state delegate. Writing in in Colorado. I'm actually going to be the Orthopedic Academy Delegate Nice All right so involvement involvement with within the profession of vision. Twenty twenty was. When was that brought about three four years ago? Maybe longer in terms of here of things I want to accomplish by twenty twenty which I'm sure when they set out to achieve it seemed like the future but all of a sudden we're in twenty twenty and it looks like a lot of those things got checked off the list in done. Yeah Yeah you know and a lot of them are kind of. They're moving targets. There's there are things to work towards. We have direct access in every state but we don't have complete open full full direct access state so there's still Goals to be achieved. But we're looking at a totally different profession than when they came up with that back in two thousand five or something bad I think the entire percussion change in that. Is that one that one vision twenty twenty one that long ago two thousand five or around back in that timeframe back in that time for written. Wow that's great yes so I guess you know probably going into the future people like you. Who are in the governing process of our profession ashes? You're going to have to pick a target like twenty thirty twenty forty twenty fifty and draw up some new new things to strive towards anything top of mind for you that you'd WanNa see the profession go towards in terms of solving. You know I I never really known. These are the kind of questions I ask myself just sitting there were some people back in the early. Two thousand were really visionary and saw where this Profession GonNa win and I kinda. I wonder how you get yourself there and get yourself a mind for him to be able to do that. You've got to be you've got to be really entrenched in stuff for a long time. I guess to see to really be able to say where we are now and to really say what great possibilities are in our future and need to be in our future so glad to see that and we'll see what comes out of House of delegates at the next conference which is not far off in June. This take the parting shots. The parting shot is brought to you by rock tape. 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If you're missing this one I really want to put the bug in your brain Make sure to plan to attend a meeting like this or a next to or national student. Conclave if you're a student he's big meetings you get got a lot out of them you get that energy you get that that connection so I think well said James appreciate the time giving us a preview of the the local flavor and we'll see in Denver boundary the we'll be right back to the time cast new step created the first PROC of its kind twenty five years ago. That was the new step. recumbent recumbent cross trainer now. It's a maintained rehab with physical therapists worldwide new step now continues its tradition of innovation with the new step transit. Another innovation in recumbent cross trainers for physical therapists delivering real time. biofeedback with this piece of equipment letting you use it. 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You glad to talk to you guys because Near and dear to my heart is how do we help people not only in our clinical environment. But how how can we do it outside of that and you guys are pretty intimately involved with a project. That's going to be going on outside of the the walls of the conference center at CSM. And I WANNA talk about that you frame up for me what you guys are GonNa be doing and and really how it came about the initiative they were doing title. PT and the community. We end. It's one of the two a PTA community initiative that that are going on during the FM initiative and then the step challenge of people are familiar with at the teaching community. It's really kinda twofold and we're working with the Denver Public School system and then we're also working with the homeless population of the Denver area near the Convention Center so there's a fundraising apparent as a volunteer opportunity component right raising money for applies for the schools that majority of those public schools are a minority population. So it's underserved. Population and in the applies for Cam packages for the Homa opportunities ripened fruits on the ground care packages doing interactive stuck with the schools. We're their love that WHO's really going to get the benefit of this. Who who are the kids that that you're going to be helping the kind of paint that picture for the audience? The most of the kids in Denver Public School System with the net system is actually a hundred schools so with our our partnership that the Colorado thinks after has made with the public school system. And we're going to shoot the try and get into about ten or fifteen or the school that wins. They of him most of the the kid grammar school kind of middle school aged kids and like I said most of that population is a minority. By in kind of those under funded ended an underserved school systems at school locations like that and specifically. What are you guys doing there in the schools? What are you going to be bringing to the community meaner highlight that for me? Yeah so with the schools we have an assembly kind of map out right there with the schools that are participating are we got about forty five minutes minutes with the school with the kids. They're kind of an assembly style. Riding the goal is to educate them on their profession. If there's therapy but also Advocates them on healthy. Living Movement is important. Why healthy eating is important? You know getting enough sleep really trying to paint them a picture. What healthier living With an all throw you know let them know about our profession in that it is an option in the future. Something to look into Let's talk about big picture. Goals down the line Komo Nick. How's this going to make their lives better? How's it going to change things for the individuals that you guys get to come in contact with while all insist on bringing awareness to the profession? People are gonNA fall seeing different. Pharmacists therapy we been highlighting the onyx unexpected that affects people are what the get into the the and yet so we are going to be a large group bear. They're in studying folk when the food on the community So so do do for topic efforts. We've come here to transform them. I believe if the kids get to know what support back they've evolved and get the different people of all there's race ethnicity representing the profession. And we'll probably give them a women to pop wanted to come back intend. The homeland reached their offense from its mission that we ran a treat. We treat them if they can receive. Ah from us. He actually goes to. Let's say to me that's the next thing and truly awesome. Thanks that's great How people follow up someone listening right now? If they want to help while they're in Denver or from afar what would they need to do. We're going to go for the the easiest thing to get all the information. It is p in the community dot com. That's our that's our webpage on that you'll find kind of history of teaching the community by this is something that really started to go by kind of give you a little history. But then we've got length within the website to donate time right which are linked to a gray sheet that Kinda sign up for the volunteer opportunities that are available or donate down which would be a link to Gofundme page that we've got running to collect funds for the supplies and the kids and then the cost the homeless love. Seeing things like this come to fruition. Seven examples of it happened all the time in terms of like things like go. Ba- go or shoot for kids physical therapists standing up and saying this is a patient population. EH WE WANNA make sure they know we exist. They're underserved and you're doing something about it so we'll make sure to get all the links to everything we just talked about in this program. I'm in the show notes of this episode so if anybody's listening they can While they can jump in and pitch in to help is is there anything you'd want you know some physical therapist going to CSM SM to To know about this and and reasons why they should you know really embrace movements like this in the future really knocker puny right. It sounds like you had mentioned in the insurer right got about seventeen eighteen thousand of those kind of descend on a city. 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"Hello, I'm answering day. This is sustainable futures report for Friday the tenth of July. This week I'm talking about the energy industry with James Spencer. Managing Director of Portland Fuel. His this the oil industries and When and why? Can. We expect an oil prices spying. Is An electric transport fleet an impossible dream. Until the future line with hydrogen. Insights from inside the industry. And in other news Mackenzie on carbon capture usage in storage, California legislates all electric trucks and public doubts about the UK government's recovery strategy. But I the interview. When I do interviews. What I know not to do is some research so I can ask some informed questions. I think in this situation I've got no idea what Oscar. When we first met Sir twenty thirteen, yeah, made up presentation. Yes, and Cole was generating five percent of the UK's electricity. Astounded Co if you'd said to me then that in seven seven years. That thirty five percent would. Under most circumstances be reversed so that that was about thirty five percent wind. Naturally would have. You would have been costed out in straight has lost his sense. I mean Mike has always been the industries so much over the last ten years. We're now in a position. I'm lows to call a tipping. The tip would indicate that suddenly everything's changed. The reality is the tipping on building. As oil basically becomes less and less fashionable, not only as a investors. The appeal to investors, but also to society people don't want to buy oil products now neath areas this core of usage, which is very difficult to get away, get away from which is the likes of concrete and contact lenses and this plastic on the screen. You'll colored shirt and all those kind of things but. The economy. If you want to say that the the luxury use of of oil, the unnecessary uses oil I, think is set for a major decline. And this crisis probably. The biggest is the economic bounceback, and that's kind of what depresses me for a load of reasons. The icy this crisis is the tipping point which will actually accelerate a move away from. Excessive use of fossil fuels. Let's let's call it that way that will start a trend which over time will end up getting rid of most of us, because once the technology develops for Green Alexa say sustainable replacements, and not technology explodes, and it can be used more things so once. People really start to use hydrogen as A. Factor. Usable. Realistic Credible alternatives than suddenly uses will explode. Wrong would maybe not explode. A cut excuses will grow exponentially. The problem is at the moment. It's a fringe thing. Can never really get a foothold in the. But because this, this whole event is going to push these alternative energies much higher to the Ford often through government subsidy, often financial investment, because that's what Abra investing to invest in answering societal pressure. You'll see that gross. Really ramp up. So that s my kind of view and I said to you the last time Mount, which is I, think is even more ally, said this before covid nineteen, one of the oil majors is GonNa. pull out all expiration. I am in no doubt about that and they'll do that because it will give the mock advantage. They will be the first to do that and they will generate some kind kinda positive investment energy around that news of the second wizard will get less cute. Awesome will will benefit less. That's my view. Although that was remember, you might remember the I. Kinda, said that bucket whenever we met. I felt the mood. Music walls is one of the. Oil Mejia's struck in in this oil price. Thing the crushing the oil price. So, typically I'm a low oil price. Is used as a way of recovering an economy. Yes so. That would be kind of come through argument to renewable fuels are GONNA. Come back into GONNA. Come into play. Because low priced oil, low price gas will be to to good opportunity for governments to miss wanted to get everybody working with construction projects and infrastructure. But I think you do have. To actors in number one, it will be difficult to rebound the economy if we're in a long term depression. And the point I made in my last mockery or is the. Crisis of two thousand nine in two, thousand, nine, very short lived. Actually we can. We can all get argue because most people agreed, austerity was pretty tough. In terms of the macro level economy recovered relatively quickly. It was what they call. A vishay goverry number one that feels difficult to say at the moment, so that might just be that much demand for oil going forward. which will compound the current trend? which is everybody pulling out Laurel expiration? Because the prices alone. And what I believe is going to happen. Is the I sent you that Rick? Graph yesterday just stagger. Sorry for the purposes of this interview this time last year there were thousand oil rigs in the US. Now there are two hundred. I mean that's not hog. Munis eight eighty percent reduction. What else GONNA DO to oil prices? At some point you're going to have a massive spike in oil, prices and more prices are going to go through the roof, because even with diminishing demands. There's going to be enough oil because all of the investment in Marin loyal of oil on the fringes. Let's say Saudi. Arabia guided continue Russia the arrest of the oil. Will. Everybody's pulling out. That will push the prices up again. That doesn't really do oil any favors because it suddenly going to be hugely expensive. By the time that comes on, yes, there's an argument. Says are well two hundred dollars a barrel. Everybody WANNA to invest in oil again. With the rest of the piece, the up described I feel. The train will have moved on. And so I don't see a rush back into oil because investors have been Scott so many times by this crazy volatility. And always in the past live with that, because the underlying saying which is. A good thing for the Western economies oils, a good thing for democratic governments want oil that's mood. News Dick is no longer that. Right, so do you see hydrogen the fuel of fusion? I, do and I. I feel very selfishly. I feel happy about that. Because I understand liquid energy better than I understand battery energy. So that's probably telling myself I WANNA hear. Electric Mobility We have massive problems with electric mobility ranging from the practical, which is the kind of power need for buses and trucks. At the kind of I think with breathing that the 'cause up even with increasing technology talking about whites of full five tonnes for the battery load on a truck. This totally practical issues about road road weight limits. So you know, not fact his. Full full terms, the maximum limit for road weights in the UK take out five tonnes that takes a lot of Asti. In a difficult economy made us pushes up prices, so there's there's also practical issues. As resale value of electric vehicles, almost all vehicles all based on depreciation resale value. Law, great deal of understanding how electric vehicles will be recycled through the system, a second hand and third ham sales. And then that's the kind of practical economic reasons that we see in the West. The kind of. The Society of issues all the mining of this stuff I mean we just don't have enough precious metals in the world to meet the Democrat. Will Coppell and of coast as an argument said well, we shouldn't be driving so much and we shouldn't be consuming so much. You know good luck without one eight off in fateful is very difficult to to come up with a adequate or A. Sustainable solution so the kind of mining and I went to a mining precious metals mining conference. about a year ago, and there was a guy day was in fantasy Let's say he was at the kind of Red Redneck. End of the scale of the attendees at the point he made, which was very. Powerful to me is the only talk about oil being depleted. We actually know we have geological surveys that show how much oil is in the graph. Based on the projections that we're talking about electric abilities across going electric trucks Cetera et Cetera this just not the precious metals on the earth in every geological study, showing would say there is just not enough precious metals Mathie Oboe, all these things that go into batteries. To meet the predicted demand, so it's all very well saying electric cars electric buses. They're all going to go up to do is level whereas the precious metals GONNA come from, he said you know unless you're gonNA. GO IN MIND MOSS. He made light of it, but. We just don't have that. Reese'll so oil is bountiful, precious metals on not. An I've thought for a long time. The next caught a major. Societal. Social an outrage understandably will be just total destruction of central Africa. All of the bits that go without through the mining of precious metals, so we can all have electric cars so. As a very long answer to why hydrogen I'm fairly, sure will have all to play a major role. Mainly because it's power, generation is very very efficient. So where is getting an electric truck to pull forty tons of Chicago is a berry. May Jeff piece of battery technology? Getting hydrogen to power that this, if difficulties with supply China's difficulties with safety, etc, and the maybe difficulty in producing sufficient is Jim, but the concept of hydrogen propulsion. Is Easy. Not applies to buses that applies to trucks at even applies to play. So of all of that kind of renewables if we can, the problem is is is at the moment is not renewable, because chums a product of refining oil. Otherwise, there are other ways and I think scale is issued. ERA is so they're all definitely otherwise producing hydrogen, and but it's getting it to the mass production. The we were quiet. Then you back into the argument of. Do we want mass production isn't all point of Covid nineteen globalization and mass production. Cools, is this kind of over consumer over consumption and thinking about eight? We don't think about we just fly for a weekend here and you know we disposable fashion we buy I. Don't I'm sure you don't the. People by a set of clothes or a shirt and they wear it for a day, and then they throw it away so. Home mass consumption. Argument is powerful, but somewhere in the middle is a requirement to produce energy scale to keep us even close to the level of development used yeah yeah. So you. It's a question of energy density, so storing hydrogen than on a vehicle is presumably going to put less white full range than batteries would. Yet it says definitely the less I think most of the evidence is fanny cleared. The price of alternative vehicles is coming down yes. Yes, yes, although not in the world I live in which is the commercial? So? Put some numbers on adding hydrogen buses. Kind of even mold a bus you know, maybe you'll. Listeners will be surprised to know the bulk standard diesel bus. New Costs about one hundred fifty thousand pounds as just. The bulk sounded bus right. Electric boss is about four hundred and fifty thousand. And if you take. You know a classic customer of Oz Municipal Bus company may be running hundred buses a year. not not a big operation. You know someone like a go ahead have. Thousand buses, but if you just take. A small small medium sized town at while some like you'll. You'll is run by a major group I group in terms of the total buses, probably somewhere in the region of one, hundred, fifty, hundred and sixty buses, so you can kinda do the maths of where hundred and fifty buses times under fifty thousand if they want to go electric under fifty. Four hundred and fifty thousand so number one nobody can buy those outright. Number two. They have to be written off over a period of time normally between seven and ten years. And so and again in terms of the transition, even if someone lot, you'll tomorrow, said one hundred percent showing away from diesel. Than you still go ten years oval ten years nine years eight years suitable, the remaining diesel buses, and is no way daddy municipality in fooled to pull out of that high approaches purchase arrangement because. Of Cost you don't buy everything outright. Everything has to be written off. Overa- In a logical appreciative period and nine typically seven to ten years. Some places drawn run fifteen years. Now. Yes nothing simple. Hyphen by the way is more like kind of well. I mean there's just on oxygen buses to have a real from a market value. There are plenty of electric buses kidding around now, but I don is GonNa more up to the seven hundred and fifty thousand for oxygen bus. Again. That's maybe not that helpful as a figure because. Prices down when you make things in sky. We're back to the mass productions things. At there's enough scaling electric vehicles I mean. You got someone like be day in China Who all I mean that hometown, which is some web? I. Think he's Shang do, but I dug for show, but. County city on the mainland that whole city of deputy, big one hundred percent electric us, so there are lots of electric noces kicking around, so those prices down is just not enough. Hydrogen buses being made to generate any economies of scale to bring the price down. Well, of course in some places, people back to trams, and even to trolley buses, and then you don't actually have to carry around You'll energy stool. those one system and I. Would I think it's buses? The bus has a battery, but it stops very precisely at the bus. Stop along comes down to the bottom of the bus and gives it a boost for about fifteen seconds while the passengers getting on or off, and that's enough to keep the thing. Running thrives route because And that must be the so that the batteries must be about chief. Monster Namias big. Yeah, I am well, so it was two things on the side of altruism, and that's the model with Tesla. which is you know so? Tesla has about one hundred bucks in the Tesla. Call all of arteries, it kind of throughout the whole fabric of the. Relevant in one engine? Is a better distribution of white. It is a problem for disposal. Of course it calls then you've got to dispose of one hundred school batteries rather than one large. ACID, not idea of small traces actually. Increasingly seen as a more efficient way of doing things and the second thing you in Milton Keynes bit similar to you'll. Model that you've just described their milne games, actually magnetic coils under the one roots has magnetic coils under the ground. And and a as at each Bostock, so as the bus stops than it takes a charge, just a momentary Josh from these magnetic coils, a match tops of the battery, and and each time it stops against. It's up. AMAC keeps ago. The longer etcetera etcetera so that there are really. Quite frankly ingenious stuff going on in that whole sector. The bus sectors always been. Innovative at probably because it's always been up against it, as as private of dominated to survive bus companies in bus infrastructure is actually have to be you. People don't would never think it, because it's not really seen as very rock and roll on a world must innovation is is really up at. The, best all of these things as Hugely costly and from Mellon Keynes. It works if you think about Milton. Keynes the geography of Milk Games. It's wide roads. It's designed for the modern age. That, we live on the. Underground by medical oils in your quickly tricky. Yes, yes, it could yes, okay, so we started off by talking about oil. Is Your Business if you of what you said about oil? Business oil oil general while both, but yeah. I think I. Think the first thing for US I mean I've I've done this for twenty five years I used to be and join the fee. When change was not really a non saying edessa conspiracy theorists would probably tell walls, but it was known, but it was on the fringes. Let site. I've seen the industry change the law. For me, there's a transition that is really is already taken place with all business in terms of going from oil. To. Energy liquid entities probably will interest me most because of the nature of what we do in our customer base, but of course wit as a business with traders and way by and sal energy. And, we have no real vested interest in productivity ground, so I have no interest in oil, crude, oil south, and you know if the oil comes up, comes from used cooking oil is made in today's days. or it comes from hydrogen. Will you know we just by the products and we sell it to customers? US companies of trends all trucking. Shifts whatever and I think probably the main issue. The likes of BP Exxon Shell of this problem is invested. They are wedded to all, because so much of their value is based on the product in the ground, so they have to keep it coming out the ground. To generate the energy that's they sal issue for that now is is that there's more and more people coming into San well, we can take our energy from an so. It's never going to be the full solution but go. easel from waste which is made from? Tallow Autumn Caucuses, so that is a waste product again as a as a half log Yamin about a thousand Laibach cutting down on me, consumption, big big contribution to Ghana chance probably the biggest thing we can do as individuals is probably cut down meat consumption, but as long as there is consumption, you have caucuses, and you have tallow, and they in a pretty effective way and be made into. And so you have an US probably about ninety percent co two reduction. In terms of the process and the burning about diesel, it's actually mistakenly hydrogen vegetable most of the. Animal, but it cannot be done from vegetables. Used cooking oil. So you have the market for US cook moment is is massively down. Because used cooking oil tippy jumps restaurants. Indian restaurants normal restaurants. Across the world, the prices of used cooking oil gone through the roof. It calls. Nobody's generating used cooking oil. So that's bad for the environment, because that's made it much more difficult to replace crude oil diesel with US cooking basil, but the point of Olis' is that as time goes on, there's more morons alternatives engines. Vehicle Manufacturers. Then all stupid. That completely dino to survive they have to. Basically produce different models so engines now much more tolerant to known truth oil specific products, so whereas the oil majors have a major problem in how they adjust to a new world of moving away from crude oil. Sadly people like us on the goes basie US Tokyo parasites. because. We're not wedded to that products that people like us. You know it doesn't really matter. It's a commodity. Still going to be price volatility because of the nature of commodities, and really what it's made of. Is Not as long as you know legal and ethical arrested without us a separate on a box of what we do in terms. where the product comes from, we don't want it to where it comes from and on that basis where. Probably able businesses like the able to move a lot quickly to A. Low Carbon Future simply because we have no best interests. We'll finally you've been talking about earlier. A major spike in oil prices. When do you think that's going to happen? I think the big caveat is what we talked about the stall about when the when is there a second wave? Really genuinely hope hopeful there won't be but fearful there will be. That obviously will suppress demand. But If you look at the production figures you look at American rigs, going from thousand to two hundred. This staggering level of cuts in oil production soup probably the back end of this year. Yes, but I think I I'm confident of that only two fifty five to forty five percent, because in the same way that nobody really predicted. You know I went to a conference in London in February in squad lull no-shows at our member in the ball kind of slightly mocking people in. Makes me. Makes me. Sound a little bit like Donald Trump at the time, but you know saying just to call them on. You know big little. Get used to this and. Let's face it. None of us really. Predict about maybe some did. Most people didn't really predict the scale of this so I. Think the whole covid. Nineteen impacts unfortunately probably hasn't white. Run its course. Is. Very difficult to make any predictions on the economy, a things that relate to that light deal price because we don't know how that goes, but as things stand. Oil production cuts or media. Demand is deterioration that can happen over time. Once, those oil wells stopped it very difficult to reopen, but more than that. Even if they were able to reopen, think people might have. Careful consideration about whether they actually want to be stuck. On an asset, the Imam doesn't. There is another log and twenty twenty one prices. Go through the floor again. They're all scarred I. mean you know the bankruptcies in shale oil last year into something we've talked about anchoring season shell last year were already. Something like fifty percent up. And that was before all of this, so these guys were up against a little bit retail highstreet. A lot of these businesses were up against the full. This this is being stroll broken. The camel's back, so yeah a spike in oil price. I could easily say the back end of this year. Maybe into the spring, but I'm. Not One hundred percent show that's what makes life interesting. Yeah, it's like everybody's life interesting. Thank you for sharing some very interesting thoughts with sustainable futures. Many thanks to James Spencer, managing director of poultry fuel. And if you want to read his monthly oil market reports. You'll find a link on the blog. Talking to we discussed the fact that even hydrogen Qasr rely on batteries. The Toyota version is a hybrid and like a petrol or diesel hybrid uses the battery to store energy, which otherwise would be wasted as heat in the brakes. Not, set me thinking about an article i. read somewhere about 'cause using compressed at as an energy stool. A little research showed that a lot of work has been done in this field, so if you want to still energy, which otherwise would be wasted as the is slow down, why not use it to compress eh? The technology is extremely simple. The tanks would not be nearly as heavy as batteries perhaps could be tubes, foaming positive vehicle, subprime, and not rare earths or precious metals required. An article in environmental research letters says. Even under highly optimistic assumptions, the Compressed Act Cau- is significantly less efficient than a battery electric vehicle I'm produces more greenhouse gas emissions than conventional gas powered car with a intensive Powell. Comics, however, a new magic combustion hybrid is technologically feasible inexpensive and could eventually compete with hybrid electric vehicles. You'll find links to this and other articles on the blog. WWW dot sustainable futures dot report. Including an article about job outfits plans to Hayes, hydrogen bus manufacturing plant. It's not all good news. Though the fuel cells of the heart of a hydrogen powered vehicle, use rap metals like platinum cobalt, Ram metals are also used for the high-performance magnets in the electric inches which drive the vehicle. The inescapable conclusion. Is that the future of individual private transport as looking very uncertain. Walking, cycling and Electric Scooters can take a sofa, but suddenly not all of us. And present public transport is to be avoided for the sake of social distancing. Public. Transport must be the future, but he can't play. It's pop as long as the pandemic persists. And finally. Looking at emissions, reduction consultancy, McKinsey and Co suggests that carbon capture use and storage is the way forward. They cautioned CCUS could continue to struggle unless three important conditions in that I capture costs full second regulatory frameworks provide incentives to account for CCUS costs. And thirdly technology and innovation to make co two a valuable feedstock for existing on you products. In the article reference on the blog, one of the uses they suggest is enhanced oil recovery pumping the C. O two into pop depleted oil wells to drive out the remaining oil. That seems to assume that they will be continuing demand for oil at a price which will justify building the infrastructure to achieve this. Another possibility is incorporating co two as a component of cement effectively locking that co two op indefinitely. Is Quite, ironic given that the cement manufacturing process is one of the largest emitters of co two globally. Then there is the possibility of carbon-neutral -ation fuel created by combining co two with hydrogen. Carbon neutral mind you. It will still emit co two from combustion. Other possibilities include the use of Co two in common fiber as an ingredient in some plastics and the creation of bio char used as an agricultural soil improver. The key tool. This depends on efficient capture of the CO two in the first place apart from John that's created by heating would in an oxygen free atmosphere. Direct capture DAC is creating a lot of interest, although it is expensive about five hundred dollars per ton of co two captured. Co Two foams only naught point note, four percent of the atmosphere by volume bowl them enough to cause environmental damage, but not very much toll when you're trying to capture it. Captured from industrial processes or power generation is much cheaper, but not cost-free. The overall conclusion of the article appears to be that the potential is enormous, but storage is not financially. Attractive and usage required substantial investments in research. I can't help comparing carbon capture and storage will without usage to the nuclear fusion reactor. You know the one that's going to produce endless energy for almost nothing. It'll be ready in about thirty years as they've been. Saying for thirty years. Although, you may remember when I interviewed him on the fifteenth of May Michael. Been Dubov. CEO of T., a technologies predicted only ten years. Now, what was that about the impractical ability of eligibility for heavy? Like Saudi and International Law reporting site tells us the California Air Resources Board. Say I'LL BE I'll June twenty-fifth twenty twenty unanimously approved the advanced clean trucks rule requiring automakers to sell a minimum number of zero emissions diesel is it does say diesel trucks, delivery vans and large pickups starting in twenty twenty four. The coaches will be phased in on. The rules require most new trucks in the state to produce no pollution of told by twenty thirty five. By twenty, forty five, every new truck sold in California will have to be Zero Initiative. They seem to take it as read that zero emissions means electric because they go on to say however, many stakeholders in the trucking industry are concerned. The transition will not be nearly as easy and beneficial as they. I'll be suggests critics cite the coronavirus pandemic and its impact on the economy as a substantial financial obstacle to manufacture the new cleaner trucks, which will also have a high price tag. I also are concerned that the infrastructure and technology including charging stations batteries are inadequate for the road I of such a large amount of zero emissions vehicles. SHORTAGE OF BATTERIES AIn't. You heard it here first. There's a lot of discussion and controversy about how we should recover the economy as we come out of the pandemic, this episode goes to press before the announcement by the child through the Exchequer Reshi soon neck explains exactly what the British government is going to do. Having said that most of what is proposed a pistol being leaked to advance into being received less than enthusiastically. Billions of pounds make good headlines, but when you divide them up over all the organization that's supposed to help pull the job says supposed to create, and so it becomes clear that it will be very thinly spread. It doesn't compare very well with actions taken by other countries. But we won't night exactly what is proposed until after the chancellor's statement. But in the meantime, climate action reports you poll reveals public believe the government has the wrong priorities for covid nineteen package. This is a response to the announcement made by the prime minister which I mentioned last week. According to climate action, a poll commissioned by conservative environment network reveals the vast bulk of the British public sees a recovery that fails the environment as bad for the economy. More than half of citizens want to see plans involving measures that tackle pollution climate change. I'll look next week. What's actually being promised? And that's it. For another week. 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22:16 min | 2 years ago

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"Yes as promised. Here's another present of the sustainable futures report. I'm Anthony day and unless you're a patron and you getting this early, it's Friday the fifth October twentieth eighteen. Thanks. First of all to everybody for that feedback. I've had movie back lever this week and I'll try and develop some of the ideas which you've sheds. In this week's climate failures and climate lies a big price for small reactors. Don't paint the town red painted green, and how should we keep it warm. News from smart cities. Well, from the IPC follow up on some of the issues colored last time. This week, I was a major documentary on the BBC on plastic waste. I'm going to cover the whole issue of plastic waste in the next episode for the moment, you'll be able to pick up the programme on the BBC. I, if you are in the UK does more at BBC dot code. You slash plastics action as now a very warm, welcome to on us to patron Shane. Yes. Another one Shane says he was looking for a podcast that covers green living and environmental issues. I hope we measure up Shane Shane's a cybersecurity student and privacy advocate and says that the episode on smart meters was really interesting. A made him away of some of the downsides he hadn't thought of. He mentioned the Amazon echo and Google home devices always listening and gathering of data. Yeah, one of those house Shane. Feedback also came this week from Tom desimone on new gold patron. I told you about last week. He says, I think heating is the one that's most playing on my mind at the moment as we seem to be making very much progress in that area. Passive houses old Gooden well, but we need to do something about the existing houses out that most people are not able willing to do a whole house retrofits. We need something that's less severe than retrofit, but still improves insulation properties of the house to reasonable degree. He says, he's looking for an online discussion group to explore the issue. The surely must be discussion groups that for improving domestic insulation. If you know one, let me know via mail aren't Anthony dash dot dot com, and all possible loan. This podcast is heard from Australia to Canada and from Belgium to Brazil. Some show this someone listening with opinions and ideas about this. Kathryn Robinson is a longtime listener to these sustainable futures are high Katerina, and she pointed me to donation at dough nation. The website tells us, we help people commit to make small behavioral changes that add up to a better world like science into work, driving more efficiently, eating less meat, all tending the fem stat, Donna notch. You can either make a pledge yourself Allstars campaign at home or at work to raise pledges from friends, family and colleagues. Groups can be sent up in businesses, universities and other organizations according to donate website. One couple asked well wishes to make pledges instead of sending wedding gifts. Donation sets up a web page for each group calculates the comms headings resulting from people meeting that pledges and creates leaderboard to keep people focused in amounted as an app which keeps you up to date. Katharina has set up such a group at freedom group where she's group environmental sustainability on job. Finds donate at. We are donation dot com. And all details on their on its website. This week, the guardian reported on climate change failures, but urged us all not to give up. They said that the world was failing to combat the threat of climate change. Global Cobb. Dogs had emission suit coal on gas increased by one point, six percent in two thousand seventeen after three years when they rose little or not. The toll demand for oil is increasing by around one and a half percent per year. They mentioned high protest against fracking in the UK, be locked up for posing a process which they see as dangerous dangerously responsible. This week, the IPC is discussing it special report on the impacts of global warming of one point, five degrees c. above preindustrial levels and it's forty. Eighth plenary in Korea. The text is not yet available. The guardian says it will be available this week, but the time on the website seems to indicate that it may not come out until next year. Is then I was invited to debate it on talk radio with piers Corbyn on Monday night. I declined because they gave me less than an hour's notice and I didn't. I what it was about. I still for the guardians man has been talking to one of the reports office. It's extraordinarily challenging to get to the one point. Five degrees centigrade targets, and we are nowhere near on track to doing that said, drew Schimmel a juke university, climate scientists and co, author all the IPC report while it's technically possible. It's extremely improbable, absence, a real sea change in the way we evaluate risk. We all know in the of that. If the report is published this week, I'll track it down. Let you know you can read the full God articles online. The link is on the blog as always at all the EU's sustainable futures don't report, and there's a link to the IPC lot site as well, which is quite simple because it's p. c. c dot c. h.. Can you believe a word of politicians say, no, I'm not talking about people who may or may not be addressing the conservative party conference which is on this week. This story relates to China where the new energy minister claims that the country is on track to meet his twenty thirty emissions targets. The new daily tells us that energy minister, Angus Taylor made a claim about common emissions this week that looked on the surface to be fantastic news, but on closer inspection was false. The minister right in the for national review emissions reductions are the least of our problems with every prospect. We will reach the twenty six percent reduction below two thousand five ahead of schedule and without interventions. And coding to Mr. Titus own department. Australia is on track to woefully miss the twenty thirty target our reduce emissions by just five percent, not twenty six percent. The minister's office then said that he'd be talking just about Hannah trinity, not all energy, but the Energy Council said that was incorrect as well. The minister's office did not respond when this was pointed act. If you read the original headline, is his all his going well, Australia's emissions reductions. The truth is that the new Morrison government has scrapped the national energy guarantee which would have forced energy generators to limit their emissions and has made it clear it will not replace it with anything. The Energy Council says that without regulation, there is no hope of meeting Australia's, Paris targets. Thank goodness that we know that we can trust everything politicians in the UK have to say. More on the energy this week. I'm in danger of falling out with my community energy friends by suggesting that nuclear power might be a good idea. No, no white elephants like Hateley see, but mal Jalen nuclear power stations, which could be housed in a container the end of our street. Well, no promise not in the middle of residential area, but perhaps on the locally dusty estate, many nuclear generators have been used for decays to power nuclear submarines and say, this will be living in close proximity for all that time without effects rose rice, I believe is a world leader in this technology. If these units cheap, simple intently emission free in use. Surely they are preferable to banning imported gas call chip, but a recent news ripple makes me think again. And neighborhood nuclear would probably receive the same. Wolf, welcome as fracking. In January, the government set up the expert finance working group on small nuclear reactors, which reported recently a recommends that the private sector should aim to develop. First of all kinds small ramp to projects and that the tax Pash take the financial risk at this stage were talking about some two and a half billion pounds for projects to be delivered by around twenty thirty. By which time renewables battery technology will be widely installed and will have the benefit of another twelve years development. The report says, the government's actions could build on the momentum, trust and confidence created by large nuclear, such as heavily say. Nuff said, I think. What else fracking. Last time I reported in the face of serious doubts about the financial viability of fracking. The British government was still determined to promote it in England. Lista lights, Bandon, Scotland, Wales equally. There are those who are implacably opposed to it because of the risks contaminating groundwater and the risks from me thing leaks the production sites which could make the gas produced from fracking dirtier in terms of overall emissions than coal. Some of these people have been sent to prison for their actions to disrupt the operations of the drilling company. Many people see this as do not of free speech. It's apparently the first time people have been sent to prison for this little protest since the mass trespass on Kim discount eighty two years ago. Meanwhile, six days after parliament went into recess for the party conference season energy under clean growth, minister clamp. Perry announced that Qudra would be allowed to Frank a second well at his Preston new road site, some twenty conservative MP's on to oppose this. But of course, have no way of doing anything to while parliament is in recess. The government is already taking such decisions away from local authorities. So he degrees and the campaign to protect rural England have a petition against this. There's a league on the log. Commenting on this latest decision, Caroline, Lucas of the green party accused the government of Trump Ling over democracy. Last time I reported that senior officials off gem had raised doubts about the smart meter road item, a threatened with imprisonment under the utilities act. If they repeated that claims, they were even prevented from presenting that grievances to an employment tribunal. I ranch too old sparky rights call him on energy for private eye. These terrible and investigative magazine to also was going on. I wish I knew he replied, and I imagine the guardian which published original report feels the same and I stay fear being hit under the utilities act. Also, we have some leads mostly on the renewable heat incentive, but would welcome more information. Both issues politically sensitive, of course, seeing all the land and the smart meters saga is so extensive could lead anywhere. Keep reading the column, keep you posted, but baps you know, do tell. Once the future diesel and how does that square with equity writing in September's oil markets review James Spencer portal fuel explains how come prejudice trucks and buses have come under increasing pressure to clean up that vehicle emissions. Local authorities are very concerned with local quality. Many that were exclude all the goals except those which beat the latest regulations at least part of the day. The emphasis on reducing notches oxide as well as CEO to this doesn't extend to private cars. And we've reached the situation where euro six bus emits North Point six milligrams of nitrous oxide per kilometer per passenger. Whereas a euro six car engine immense. One hundred milligrams per kilometer passenger. Two members of my family have acquired new cars in the last twelve months. One Audi when Mercedes and both diesel in both cases, they found that the model won't. It was not available with petrol engine. It's disappointing that model choice was considered more important than the potential damage from emissions even 'cause diesel engines all very much cleaner than they used to be. But why are these manufacturers to preparing the petrol if you know, let me know. Transform the journal of the institute of environmental management and assessment tells us that Europe must end diesel costs sales by twenty thirty to deliver the Paris agreement. They side report from the German aerospace centre institute of vehicle concepts commissioned by Greenpeace Belgium. The report says. Over the last two, Kate the emissions on the EU twenty eight plus two. 'cause have changed little if this trend continues the next two k. the passenger caused CO two budget for e u twenty eight plus two would be completed to please in the fifty percent scenario within ten years in the sixty six percent scenario. The Cobb budget would be depleted within five years. What does that actually meeting. The EU twenty eight plus two is the current EU members, including UK plus Norway and Switzerland. The fifty percent scenario aims at a fifty percent chance of keeping global warming within a one point, five degrees centigrade increase while the sixty six percent scenario aims at a sixty six percent chance. This is based on the assumption of the world lodge can only so much. We'll see two into the atmosphere if catastrophic climate change is to be avoided. If our transport fleet continues to admit CO two current rates for another five years than there is a sixty, six percent chance of hitting one and a half degrees centigrade target. But that assumes the emissions from transport stop that point. If I'll transport fleet continues to see, oh, to count rates for ten years, then there's only a fifty percent chance of hitting the one point, five degrees centigrade target. This relates to emissions from all vehicles. Not just diesel ones. The solution is to convert the vehicles, the fleet to Alec drizzly as James Spencer says in his oil markets report. In that case, some pretty hard questions need to be honest as to how all this will be produced wears is to be produced and whether it will actually it was in an overall reduction in emissions versus the current crop of clean diesel engines. Smart cities, world reports that you can't drive as dependent sale because jumped in the last year with a third thirty, three percent of motorists the equivalent of thirteen point, two million saying that they are more reliant on that calls now than twelve months. Earlier, this is from a report. Research for the RAS's annual report on motoring. This thirty three percent compared to just twenty seven percent twenty seventeen an almost a quarter, blaming it on a deterioration in public transport services. If this continues, it'll be increasingly difficult to prevent emissions from private Collier from increasing lender. Use them. When people used horses in the street that were eventually made to clean up after them. Now, bus company go ahead has adopted the same principle, but with Multan technology. This week, they launched the UK's. I f injuring bus that makes the air around it cleaner as it travels according to the press release. The buses fitted with a special designed filter that removes ultra fine particles from the air and traps them as the bus moves through the streets, the filter that allows the bus to blow out more pure so that the abbey hind it is cleaner than not in front of it. We won't this pilot to show that buses should be looked at as not just the solution to congestion in cities, but also as a solution to the air quality problems, said, Gumma heads, chief executive, David Brown, as the bus removes the ultra foul ultra fine particles from the travels along the route. It is helping soul, the equality problems of the city. This bus will clean the add on its route. One point seven times a year to a height of ten meters. Imagine the change we could make to add quality. If old us is had this technology. There's no detail on the actual size of particles trapped or on these co, two and knocks emitted by the vehicle, but it's going to be a move in the right direction. Another bus out. Another reporter, smart cities world the first or Tournus school shuttle in the world's. We'll take to the roads this autumn in Babcock ranch, Florida, USA, Babcock ranch, which bills itself as the first solar powered community in the US is also going to be the first trial. All Thomas school shuttle on its roads. The twelve easy mile. Ease at ten gen to shuttle is fully actress and according to the town's transport on a transitive, it reacts thirty times faster than a human driver. Currently, the shuttled travels at top speed of twelve miles an hour, but has the potential to reach speeds of thirty dollars once the necessary infrastructure is in place. A safety attendant will remain on board role times and trans Dev will test the homeless gentle, the students and families before the pilots visually begins. Well, it can stand up to school children. Finally. Oh, you thinking of any do it yourself jobs now, the night's drawing it bit of painting Babs I time red or green. The trouble is that there's always paint leftover. You tug it awhile on a shelf in the garage in case you need it. But by the time you come to look at it and it's hard and useless. So you need to dispose of it and you really really shouldn't put it in your black bean. Va landfill Unietd community repaint dot all dot UK. This is a network of nonprofit organizations across England Wales and all which take unused paint and provided to chart is community organizations. Donal price, no clutter yoga, no noxious substances center landfill redecorated community facilities. It's a win, win, win. Flannel word green GB week starts on fifteenth hard Tober more about that next week. But details are added green gbi dot campaign dot gov. Dot u. k. green GB dot com. Pain dot gov. Dot u. k.. And that's eight for another episode I end without thinking patrons who support healthy cover the cost of hosting this podcast on the two hundred plus episode archive. Thank you all. And if you're not yet a patron, we'd love to ask you to our number from little as one dollar per month signed now, but patriot he's an American site. All you have to do is hop across to patriot dot com slash SF that's PAT EEO and dot com. Slash as and sign up. You could get a sustainable futures report in badge. In most cases, you'll get the audio. This podcast day early sometimes even early. But as I said, that's all for this time, and that will be another sustainable futures report next week. It'll be all about plastic. Share it with friends, don't just discard it. 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Reasons to be Cheerful

The Sustainable Futures Report

15:05 min | 7 months ago

Reasons to be Cheerful

"Hello I'm Anthony Day and this is sustainable futures report for Friday the twenty fifth of September. Reasons to be cheerful. Way. There's a clock in New York counting down to irreversible climate change reckons we have just over seven years. The covid crisis hasn't gone away and show signs of rapidly becoming more serious. League sustainable futures report is getting increasing numbers of follows all over the world, but even after more than five. The up two numbers tiny. There's nothing to be cheerful and any of that. What's the reason to be cheerful? Well, quite simply if we're not positive if we're not optimistic, we have nothing left. On Denali knowledge to don't want to believe that humanity's at risk there are no Biz to want us to believe that humanity is at risk. There are conspiracy theorists who believe that covert is a hoax and the all part of a plot to control us. They'll probably tell us to any measures to deal with climate emergency old part of the same hoax. Tight. Comfort from the fact that these are all minorities which make a good headline. So maybe more prominent in the media than they deserve but don't ignore them stand up to them. It's easy to say the government's not moving fast enough to meet net zero targets. The British government promises announcement of a new green strategy shortly. So I'll reserve judgment until I've seen it. But signed. SA- cautious optimism include announcements by Scalia and Ladies Electric. Heavy. Goods vehicles. Announcements from Abbas industry. Zotov hydrogen fueled aircraft. New Battery Technology from Tesla. And the statement from BP Peak Oil, is upon us. Last week, I spoke of tipping points. Industry inside James Spencer says that BP's latest pronouncements truly are a tipping point more on that in a moment. I just a reminder of why the need to reduce emissions mitigate. The crisis is urgent. Of Wednesday this week over eighteen thousand seven hundred firefighters continue to battle twenty seven separate major wildfire house in California. The other end of the world. Arctic. Sea Ice Shrike this summer to its second lowest extent since satellite observations began. Both symptoms and both can be causes of continuing climate change. According to the Telegraph a newspaper not known for radical views. BP's briefing on his latest Global Energy Ultra report dropped a cluster bomb on big oil. Spence odile BP's group chief economist presented three scenarios for Progress to twenty fifty. The message was that the world has reached peak oil. About one hundred, million barrels of produced each day at present and BP, does not expect that rate to exceeded. Indeed, the company will not invest in the expiration and expect some one point seven trillion barrels to remain unused in the ground. About ten years ago the then oil minister of Saudi Arabia shake your money was of saying that the Stone Age didn't end because we ran out of stones. It looks as though his words are beginning to bring out the oil. Bob Livni's CEO pay described how the company would achieve net zero by twenty fifty and endorsed the British government's plan to end the sale of fossil fuel powered Qasr in twenty thirty. Be Pay is transforming itself from an oil company to an energy company. And by developing its alliance with light, sauce could become the world's largest soda operator. The company sees continuing demand for natural gas as a transition fuel for the next fifteen years, but it's investing heavily in wind power and hydrogen. New purpose and ambition underpinned by four fundamental judgments about the future. That the world is on an unsustainable path and it's Kaban budget is running out. That energy markets will undergo lasting change shifting tools, renewable, and other forms of zero Cobb energy. That demand for oil and gas will be increasingly challenged. BB said in its report. Apart from the Tigris response to have been mixed reactions, the fuse specializing in energy security sound skeptical with its headline BP joins Pique doomed crowd. But it point side, but there have been rumors were approaching peak oil for a while. But be pay is the first oil major to openly state that it believes it's happening. The New York Times reports that OPEC full-season declining demand for oil while be pieces plummeting. Is as good news for the planet. Clearly, the reduction in emissions due to declining oil use is to be welcomed. The economic and political impact is something else. In the face of falling demand, the OPEC countries can try and limit supply to force up prices the effect this will be to make you ask Shell economic. But until increase shale output increases, supply and drives prices down again. The International Monetary Fund, says that even the richest Gulf states may face a solvency crisis body early twenties thirties. In be peace, most extreme scenario that will come within five years. And it's not just the Gulf states that will be affected. Russia will never be able to profit from its oil reserves. Another less stable states which rely on oil revenues will become even less stable. States like Nigeria Algeria and Gola Libya and Iraq. Nigeria has the seventh largest population in the will, but his population is growing five times the rate of the UK. How will they feed that people when they cannot sell their oil? And can they really future for the Canadian toss fans? And how will the British workers fair when Saudi Arabia can no longer afford to spend billions on British moments? COVID is already affecting the global economy. Is Clearly, not the only factor which means the business as usual is likely to be anything more than a memory. The aviation industry counts tool three percent of global emissions, but Airbus has announced hydrogen-powered Achraf, which will produce no emissions in flight. Prototype Electric aircraft with already fled, but the powder white ratio batteries severely limits their range. The designs from Airbus will use liquid hydrogen in gas turbines and could be flying by twenty thirty five. They expect a turbofan version to be able to carry two hundred passengers for two thousand miles, which will cover most domestic and intra continental flights except perhaps in Australia. For the moment, conventional oil powder craft will be needed for inter continental flights. Buckling ground both Mercedes and Scott have announced electric heavy goods vehicles. Scalia claims its vehicle will travel from London to Bobby on a single charge on recharging will fit in with the driver's rest times. Looking at a bit more closely hundred and twenty five miles nolanda Birmingham should tight less than three hours. But recharging time, we'll be a hundred minutes. There's no information yet on the cost of either vehicle a no comment on how far battery weights will reduce the payload. It's interesting that being paid expects the headaches Diego the future to be by hydrogen. Toyota. Has No cure electric cars. It has a hydrogen car, but that's held back by the lack of stations has Toyota back the right holes. This week. So Tesla's Battery Day. And the announcement of new technology. Tesla's new battery is cylindrical. But more importantly, the new design will make it six times more powerful and increased range by sixteen percents. This point. You may notice I haven't got to dedicate studio on the rain is just beginning to batter down on the roof. But. I'll all. Elon Musk said that his company would eliminate Kobylt from its batteries. Much Kobylt comes from independent minds in the Democratic Republic of Congo, with our few regulations and no safety standards and child labor is known to be used. Ceasing to use KKOB's must be a reason to. Musk. Also suggests. That once the world's caused are all electric. There will be no need to mine anymore lithium. Batteries can be continuously recycled. By the USA call significant lithium's deposits have just been discovered. Rising in the Guardian, George, Mambazo presents another side to the news. Yes. He says electric cars are emissions free and we can look forward to clean the AD. But a cost tires regardless of whether that vehicles powered by petrol at atrocity already major source of pollution. Tires gradually wear down through contact with the road and as I reported in a previous episode, the dust which he's created is carried by the wind and eventually pollutes the Oceans Taya's are a major source micro plastic pollution in the. Taking a whole life you. cause. An environmental hazards and the point of manufacture own what's There are emissions involved in the production of onstage, you this pollution and desperation of nature. From the mining of Ram Ethelson News Through Motors, batteries, and control systems. Unless, we review the whole idea of travel and just replace off fleet with the same number tables with just for the different parcels they won't stop Qasr from carving up communities and turning streets authorities that Dole life into a moral hazard. Cycling Great. Until the cycle way comes to an end and you find yourself driving on a road with cars and lorries thundering past frequently to close. During. Lockdown local councils have been experimenting with closing residential streets to through traffic. These low traffic neighborhoods of course, controversy an petitions. The idea is to eliminate rostrums and make these traits quiet and sale. Young, cry for motorists. Most of them don't live in areas affected has been definitely. The truth is that cities are not getting any bigger and traffic is continue to grow. Public Transport is one answer that during the pandemic people are understandably avoiding. Walking and cycling are both healthy and frequently faster. But we need to change public opinion and plan road improvements with cyclists and pedestrians is the priority. It's unlikely that are present governments twenty seven, billion pounds road-building budget will take this view. It's clear. The corporations have realized the threat of the Climate Crisis Anna taking. Action. Governments to need to take action they I need to realize that business as usual will never return. We mismanaged consumption and encourage people to buy quality things at the loss not things that he used once and discarded. We need to expand recycling and have a national recycling strategy. The UK at present, we have different recycling bins in different local authority areas, different rules depending on the recycling facilities. We need to reinforce the sector economy. Lee Us not just Tesla's new batteries but almost everything. That means redesigning products for repair refurbishment reuse, and ultimately recently. We must adopt the producer pays principle. So that manufactures count abandon or responsibility for what they've produced once it's in the hands of the consumer. Finally leave you the story this week. The Canadian police stopped account travelling at wool and ninety miles an hour seemed to have nobody in it. When they eventually stopped it, they found that the to front seats will fully reclined and the driver and passenger were asleep. Because a tesla on autopilot. Clearly, the driver had great fakes in technology. But even though new factors recommend that the driver should have hands on the wheel at all times including in auto mode. Hands on the wheel. A good time. And that's it. Thank you for listening a special. Thank you all my patrons. Thank you for your continued support. I know we have stresses and strains and worries the pandemic some fumble than others. About from concerns over the climate crisis. What am I call leagues told us yesterday that as far as he's consent, humanity is irretrievably stuffed. Although he didn't put it elegantly as not. As far as I'm concerned, we should be cheerful. And if you can't be cheerful cautiously optimistic. I'm certainly not going to give up on this without trying. As Dylan Thomas said. Do not go gentle into that good night rage rage against the dying of the light. I'm Antony. That walls they sustainable futures report.

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'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' - Matthew Wood & David Acord

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36:24 min | 1 year ago

'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' - Matthew Wood & David Acord

"People keep telling me no one does and coming to Gazza. They do from Babu Freak to tie fighters to the voices of Star Wars Past Oscar. Nominees David Accord and Matthew would've skywalker sound join us today to talk about their rich work on Star Wars. The rise of skywalker film pays homage to the franchise by incorporating they iconic star wars sounds of the original films legacy sound designer. Ben Burtt while incorporating getting new sounds and new characters acording would share the little known behind the scene stories. David Decor was the film supervising sound editor and sound designer and has a previous Oscar nomination for the Force Awakens supervising sound editor and five Time Academy Award nominee would is also a star wars franchise bet prior nominations for the last Jedi and force awakens. The pair also worked on Jon. FAVREAU SPAM delorean recently winning a motion picture. Sound Editors Golden Reel Award for the Disney plus series during this podcast. They also reveal their secrets behind creating the voice of baby yoga. I'm Caroline Georgina. Welcome to the Hollywood reporter's behind the screen. So thank you for joining us thank you thanks introduce yourself sure. I'm Matthew Wood. I'm the supervising sound editor I'm David Accord supervising sound editor and sound designer. Congratulations on your nomination brings. Obviously this is the next step in a very big franchise is. Would you talk about how you balance. Some of the classic sounds that we know such as the sound of the lightsaber with some of the newer. Sounds and the stone. Sure so matthew and I've been working on star. Wars projects and the recent era since force awakens but also clone wars and rebels shows resistance then met worked on all three prequels. I worked onto those. So we've been kind of dealing with new star wars sound effects integrating those with legacy you sound effects for for quite a while now for for twenty years so there's no real trick to it. It's just trying to create that that Ben Burtt sound if that's at all possible. Nobody can quite match what Ben does by we. We do our best. So yeah. That's that's the trick is to if you're going to make a new new tie. Fighter sound is to kind of examine Benz the recipes for what a tie fighter sound is kind of make that thing but with your grown ingredients is sort of to extend that metaphor. So Ben's ties is elephants scream and it's a race car on wet pavement There's a kind of the two primary elements for the tie. Fighter pass by so for rises skywalker for example for like the we call it the the Thai flip moment where Ray okay flip over Carlos tighter that whole approach. That's all new tie. Fighter sounds so we knew elephant scream. Sounds he's mother an animal. All screaming sounds no animals. Were harmed during the recordings of that. Mother Motor sounds that we kind of use for to give it more power. That was kind of a thing also with some of the older legacy sounds the sounds environment that you're mixing for in nineteen. Seventy seven was primarily mono or Stereo. There wasn't a lot of there was some surrounds options. You know but Most of the theaters mono and Stereo so low end wasn't isn't redundant allow dynamic. Range wasn't really much of a consideration when recording sounds way back then so. That's the thing that we sort of our conscious conscious of now is taking those classic sound effects and sort of applying more dynamic range to them and mixing an atlas and because Ben Burtt is still at skywalker sound. They do consult with him. Was He part of these discussions. He has been in the past. Yeah for sure been spends a great resource for not just for anything star wars but just for sounded in general. I mean he's he's kind of the main reason that building exists at all is the tech building. It's ranches because Ben so. Yeah he's you know he's he's a good road that you can. You can lean on when you need to. I know you had to go back. To the archives I some of the classic voices for instance. Carrie Fisher would you talk about that. Sadly Carrie Fisher passed away before any of the production had started on this film and we had to go back to a lot of her outtakes and unused footage from the force awakens to get a version of her scenes. That would be a pliable to our current movie and we wanted to be very respectful of that process. We all love Carrie. She's like the heart of our Star Wars Universe and I I had many opportunities to work with over the years and so on a personal level for me to. I wanted to make sure we were really respectful folded that and so the scenes were structured around what we had existing footage wise so crews -Tario and JJ put together. Those seems to work with what we had for her. And and same with the audio we sort of mind a whole bunch of samples and material that we had from her for force awakens the last Jedi and and Um mm-hmm and behind the scenes footage actually that we'd shot from her and unused footage to destruction those together so we were able to put that together for her for all the lines that were required for the movie and with a combination of technology and editorial care from our dialogue department. Cheryl Nardi and rich Quinn James Spencer Off The treated that very respectfully and it was. It was wonderful to see that all come together because I think it it. It honored her character and and also worked on a technical level gary delicate assignment assignment. Yeah for sure I. Her daughter was involved in so With the project. She's an actor in the film and also consulted for a lot of the the new scenes that we've done billy Lord and so there was even seen with A younger Taken from footage from return of the Jeddah younger yes right right yes and so Billy actually voiced all the briefing and and whatnot that we used for carry there so it was kept in the family. Aside from the voices were there other elements that you pulled from your archives the great thing about Skywalker as we really. I mean Dave and I and others have gone through and really nice high quality version of all the classic sounds and all the classic dialog we have Assistant Trae Turner went through and we took all the quarter inch from every role. That's ever gone through star wars and digitize all. It's all been catalogued. So we've kept that in a very restricted library. So as Dave saying the tie fighters and money and Falcon and any light sabers or anything legacy has been really restricted to star wars. And you're not really hearing it in any other movies so it has that emotional connection right away. And so we're very fortunate that that state very I sacred at skywalker. Those elements were used in film. Yes so there were legacy sound effects used. And then there's our we have our own and more current star wars libraries said of sounds we use as well some made from stuff that we did force wiggins some elements from Last Jedi we use Stephen Suffer from Solo. That I pulled to us. For some of the Falcons stuff in this movie made some new Falcon stuff. I mean it's every movie we ended up making between you. You know a thousand and three thousand new sound effects. So that's not enough for Star Wars movie so you have to lean on the previous libraries as well to every scene is the sound effects moment in those movies. Ben Burtt also made the wilhelm scream famous in his movies. Did you sneak that into this one. Not of this swing. Now I think A few movies back. We kind of made the decision and this has actually been was involved in this decision that we had Had done its duty and so we you know wants it kind of became a thing that was known. I mean you can hear that in video games and car commercials and Television Film. It's it's everywhere so we were Kinda kind of like all right. Let's do something new so we've actually. We have a new one. We have a new screen that we've been putting in since clone wars on. Tell us about the new screen. It's yeah that's another it's in some other movies too but it's it's We'll see we'll see people pick up on it eventually. That's very dear to us. Yes the scream at and But it is it is in all everything since Force Awakens Act a little sound Easter Egg. Nobody's quite grabbed onto yet. So but there is it an archive screamers recorded. Archival scream but we did not record it new for these movies. That's correct. We could probably give an a a range. It's like late seventies or eighties recorded. Yeah so let's talk about some of the new voices for the new characters yes film. Tell us about Babu Freak Babu Freak amazing. I mean right when we started working on the film it was funny because I was told. Oh the puppeteers voice is in their currently for bobby frequent and most of the time. It'll be like okay. Well then let's we'll we'll go hire a voice actor will experiment with a character like that but and I remember just the first time I was into it. I was like well. That's for puppeteer. That's amazing like it was funny. Just got the point across for the character. I think it really drove story. Forward the interaction with C. Three. Po was hilarious. I kept saying. I don't think we're gonNA find something better. And then it turned out that I I just misheard that they actually had the the the woman who voiced babu free who's Shirley Henderson came in. And they taught her the puppeteer in trade so she could Improv and actually move characters mouth so she was puppeteer while she was doing the Improv for the character and she kind of came up with that language and performed it that way and so we preserved preserved Oliver production sounds so that was entirely shot onset live with her own movement and then we had an interesting thing happened where we do you know twenty seven seven different languages of this film so when we went out to London to go do the international versions we had Shirley come in and do all the little pieces that were an English she had. I'd like you know. Detroit is ready. She says and so we had to. She actually phonetically learned that in all languages in like you know Japanese Spanish German. And she's came in and did ah we had a specialist there and she learned language and said them all and it was hilarious to watch. She's an incredible actor and very understated but professional and it was fun to watch that. Can you help us with this. Wooden Book Will Zuri. Is this going to what a BEKA BABU A to Utah. We'll do not found something. You're DRUID's droid forbidden memory bank words translated from. That's who you hanging out with it speak six. Can you make them trick. Kabuki can you make him translated valedictory as Boise Yes but it will cause a complete we make him translate it. He won't remember anything good. HEY member go black black lab fees. He's famously unreliable. Tell us about the last seen. How did you even begin to approach it well? It was in the script for a long time that we were going to have this moment. Where raise sort of knocked out on the canvas and it's her like you know? Get up and face your demons do this. And so she's reaching out through the forest through the whole movie and this moment to connect and it was really quiet it was you know just her looking out into a star field and we have this these voices come in so we had the opportunity opportunity to go back and get every voice you here and there is new and so you know we got you and McGregor and Liam Neeson and Sam Jackson. Yeah actually. We Have Little Teeny Clip of Alec Guinness that we used. Yeah In there too but it was so fun to have them come and we'd written a whole bunch of lines basically to be motivational in different kind of different performances. Mrs And so we cut that together and we actually brought burden to help with some of the original putting that scene together just because we thought it would be a good fit for him and so he came in and and gave a pass on that and then it changed involved and became what you hear but it was wonderful to have all the actors come back and be able to revisit their characters and I had to fly all around the world go get them all and and everyone just has such a great love for Star Wars and it was so fun to see all the different eras of Star Wars represented. In that moment I'm and so we tried to find Djeddai from clone wars and from rebels and from the prequels and and have an put. Those altogether and motivates ready to get it up and face palpitation for the final battle so and it ends with Luke skywalker telling her to get up and then she has both sabres in her hand. From lucan Leah Boiler. I'm sorry I guess everyone in the movie but Wonderful Wonderful Montage to put in their audio only two which was great. Any anecdotes dictates could share about during that recording with one of the actors because again they're such a history they're bringing them all back. Everyone was very very happy. There was a Lotta grins going on. I had worked with most of those actors. Already in my previous I think the very first actor I ever recorded for when I worked on stars Ars Liam Neeson so having him come back in New York and record was great and also getting to hear. Jj explain the story of Ray and and how it's all coming together was it was amazing to watch and I I could tell you that every single one of those actors would love to get back into star wars again and You McGregor is going to. We know that with his OBI one series but even the animated characters like Soka. Tano wonderful to have Ashley Eckstein come in and do that pretty yes right. Freddy Prince Junior came in and you know and everyone treats the and they're all jet I so they're all very reverend. I'm very aware of what they represent. And it was beautiful sessions. They were great. What part of your work kept you up at night and just was the most challenging? And how did you address it. I think the very last couple months on the film's final. Mix which is just go time for. Jj and we're all in there together burned some late nights and his mind is so creative and we can jump all over the place forum and we want to just be prepared and have like the most you have to have a lot of options. Yeah at the ready especially if it's a big sound design nine moment you know like like the lightning on X.. Ago was a good example of that where she wanted. Non Lightning non literal. Lightning sounds for for her exco so I made these lightnings sounds for it and he felt that that was still to lightning ish till two hundred sounding so he could warped warped a little bit. More guy stepped away from Neil. It's still too he wanted. It Really Schricke an earthly lightnings coming from the core of the planet out towards the sky versus purses this guy down on this planet the lightning works on x ago apparently So we ended up with this sort of shrieking. Horrible animal like it sounds but this sort of precursor kind of wind to it and that's kind of where that lightning ended up but that was nowhere near where we started kind of evolved the final mix. It's just things like that. You have to be on your toes for. Yeah I think everybody on our crew had worked with Jay and star wars already including the picture should apartment and and our sound apartments that we all was already fourth go round yeah and a lot of things came together without. Jj really his hands. On so I mean I know. He spent the time with Dave's redoing effectively performing bb eight with day for all of the news scenes which was fantastic? Yeah Yeah Yeah. He's he's he's he's very sound Aware he he's a musician And so he. He knows the tools that we comes into my design suite wheat. And we're showcasing. Whatever sound effect? It is that moment he's asking questions about like plug INS and settings and you know are using sound toys. What is that nothing gets by him? He's he's he's a brilliant guy really knows his stuff. And you have to be on your toes and Debbie ready to To deliver. Yeah take us through the schedule all of the movie like this when when you come on and how long are you working on the project. Sure so matthew. I went to London. September number twenty eighteen to read the script and to talk. Jj about any early. They're still shooting by. The way is pretty early on in their shooting shooting. Visit some set pieces and just sort of you know. Get sort of Germinate some ideas I guess that was when we first started talking about. Do It was around that time and giving some ideas together for. Do couple of other things too. We were kind of talking about. It was so early on in his focuses on shooting at that time but we read the script. Then that's when we started working and Guess in a way on on the voice that that kind of went through a number breath changes for the next few months. I think by the time they came back from shooting in February of Twenty nineteen. We were kind of on fulltime at that point. And that's when we're really diving into sound design field recording all that steph getting some eighty are recorded giving you know gathering all of our All Oliver Pieces and the most the crew starts coming on around. I'm June. I guess something like that. Yeah and editorial moves along. Until around August or September we'd pre-mixes for affects and for dialogue. The final mix started in October and we wrapped up right before Thanksgiving and a couple of weeks before the movie came out. I think yeah. Yeah then we then. We went on to London to international mixes for a couple of weeks six and then close to a year. Maybe ten months something like that. It's very I mean I- Kathy Kennedy has extended this Same courtesy to the sound department apartment. George Lucas used to which was to have come on very early and get ideas and start building libraries and recording going on assignments and going out to the sat and actually yeah putting the character of the joy. Do in our hands and get to look at it and talk to the the you know. The puppeteers are moving at and just really We it's an inclusive process for us. So that was that that is a rare commodity which lives very much. Appreciate the and it's been that way on every film the last five movies we've done. It's not normal that the post production sound department gets that level of consideration and access I'm that early on. So that's really great that they think to do that. So what were. Some of the most surprising sounds that you had to go out and record for this film. let me think of the most fun things I went out and recorded was There's a called a carbon arc welder. And it's a bundle of carbon rides. Ads that will remember how much you know electricity or powering through these things. But it's I imagine it's quite a bit considering the size of the generator. But it's It's two bundles of carbon rides with an arc between them electrical arc. It was used back in theater. You could spark these things. Brilliant light like blinding literally blinding light. Really loud I was using theater to emulate lightning and under so and Ben recorded those as Ben Burtt for various things back in the seventies. I are wars for lightsabres clashing together and various. Sounds like that So I wanted to do my own carbon according so I found a guy in Boulder Colorado. That's still had some of these carbon rods. They're kind of hard to find. I guess so. Record accord some of that stuff and it was an incredible sound. It was just an. I ended up using some of that for lightsaber arguing. Some of it ended up using force lightning for for palpitation. Some of it. I was using for the excavating at a point to then we kind of abandoned that with the more streaky stuff. That's in the movie now but yet the carbon stuff was pretty cool. Now you also were working hang on the Mantle Orient Juggle of these projects. No idea delorean Star Wars Resistance. which is the animated? I made it show. We're doing on Disney exte- so all of those are going and twins and that's right and the clone wars new season. That's coming out so a lot. We have a great eighteen at Scott worker and Bonnie wild helped us out on Bandler in which we just WanNa missy award for so that was very relations six but Yeah we have a great team and you know everyone. I think the fact that we were coming up to the conclusion of the skywalker story. We wanted to make sure we had the best team team together for this and some people had had moved on from Star Wars a little bit but we grabbed them all back and we said anyone. That's been part of this. We want to bring together again and let's finish this. That's right so we really did have a crew of people very focused on on giving the scour story a proper sendoff and we knew. Jj was going to be not super enthusiastic in the creation of the story so we wanted to like really really match his enthusiasm and get a great crew together. I feel like We got everyone we wanted there. We met with Jon favreau and Dave Baloney last January January twenty nineteen did some rudimentary spotting of mandal orients. We we got our first glimpses of the of the show spotting meaning. We went through the show and they give us direction of what they wanted things to sound like that's basically what what spotting is And spent most of January February making a a library for for Rabbani to cut with for Lauren. And Yeah and I have to ask. Would you tell us about baby. Yoda's vocalisations so I was recording animals. at this wildlife rescue outside of San Diego and to the animals were recorded. Had this really cute. Little almost child likes quality to them was a barrier Fox and one is Kidu and so the initial the child or baby odor wherever you want to call them. His initial vocal was just made up of those two creatures. Then John Fabric thought that they need to be more human sounding. Something a little more relatable I guess so he dialed way back on the animal part. And now you just that's just kind of there for a little grunts and coups and purring that's that's really what the animal vocals are used for. Now we use some real baby vocal for when he gets really fussy. And and and then. I have some of my own vocal in there too for for more of the articulated vocalisations pitched way up. Obviously this voice can't do it without some help But yeah so. It's a combination of things. Are there other areas where you used your voices. You know. It's funny on the man delorean. We have eight episodes so we went through and we have a limited you know more limited budget on unmanned Lawrence. We actually went through and got a handful of actors. Four or five of US went through all eight episodes and every alien stormtrooper for masked character that we could do And so David an ir are sag actors as well and so we ended up What was it episode to write the jobless? Yeah so the job was seen. We went and recorded all the in there so we had a lot of moments there and it's funny because most of the active higher star wars fans. We have David Collins and Terry Douglas and Grey delile. Did all. Yeah so so. There's the great scene where Laurie and finally gets to the top of the crawler and and he's faced with fifteen. John was with their guns at the always. They're gone yeah we went back and everyone knew that the exact moment where our to get stunned donned in new hope and The First Star Wars movie when the jumps out and look and so we we basically all said that same word and because we we all knew it and so and that was not scripted. That was something. We came up with an loop group. That's one thing I'll I will talk about his Terry. Douglas we use for a loop group and she just puts together a great group group of SAG actors for us. And we've done every single film in the in the sequel era including Mandal Orient and we really top notch Group of voice actors. They come in and we just we do we conquer all the aliens and mass characters and stormtroopers and it was the whole scene where the the chief is negotiating with the mandatory and they sit down and he's kind of making fun of the Mandarin's dialect and all that that's that was meet doing my best Jiwa impression and of course we have to sort with South Park and pitch it up the five towns or or whatever it was now jove we got trade all the parts for the best. I'm not gonNA trade any parts. They stole them from me. Took I know you understand this. I took some of that work and we actually. He made a song. That's playing in the Cantina at Disneyland Park. it's called teeny something. I can't remember what it's called but that's myself David Collins singing as jolly it come up with the all the dialogue for that so yeah. It's it's a fun part of the job once in a while to get to play in that arena. Yeah the pain. Are you involved in other aspects of the park. Yeah we You know skywalker sound is fully consulted and used for all the sound you hear in the park. The two who rides the new ride that just opened plus the Falcon ride and all the ambulances you hear around the park in the ship's taking off and all that Disney has really utilized us to build that environment argument. I play one of the characters. That's walking around in the park and talking to people they've got my voice In there and yeah it's That park is pretty phenomenal. All I mean it really does feel like you're star wars and I just rode the new ride So called Risa the resistance. So yes I I wrote that just recently and I have not seen anything like that in real life even on the sets that has made me feel like stars real and I. I really hope everyone gets a chance to see it. which character you I voice win basically When Adam driver doesn't want to do some of the voice work for Kylo I ended up? I I do Kylo for him. He knows I'm his sound like so I've done them in the resistance series we have for Disney xt in battlefront two game and also in the park at At Disneyland an example Boy Gosh this uh-huh okay. You'd have to actually well. I don't want to spoil up here because I I. It's I use the mask as actually part of the performance. Manson I pitch myself down and it's one of those things I can't do without all the tech but Speaking about that. That's the one of one of those things where I was observing the way Adam was working. We actually David then. I came up with how the mask sounds four. Adam driver and that was something from force awakens where we wanted Adam to be able to use the mask microphone to to affect his performance. And not just do it as a post production process that we lay over the top and he has no say in what we're doing so we we put headphones on them. And we spent several hours bad robot coming through and finding a level of distortion and amplification and compression that would work to sound intimidating so Adam could really get quiet in his performance and it would bring it up and make it sound very intense and you could hear the process in the headphones I maybe in one ear the was dry and he could adjust his delivery in a way that could best suits the voice process. Like a really. You know help it out because we thought about that we were thinking. Darth vader's helmet is there. To keep him alive but Kyla Rennes mask is more of an intimidation. So you'd think we were thinking in the story. There might have been a day where Kylo Ren Dan worked with his folks you know. The guy's building his mass to say what's IT GONNA sound like when I talk and so. This is our time to do that so I remember when we did this. We put adamant the booth. I went and got a replica. DARTH vader helmet and put it in front of them. We put a spotlight on. It turned all the lights off and we just had him sit in there and play with the voice over and over and we just got to a point where it worked and so we were able to preserve that and that was something that you know later on. I use the same process when I'm performing Kylo and it really really helps because you really can feel like you can really get microphone and creepy about your performance in that. It's it's part of the the character in earlier in club here on their word. I should be flattered so for each of you. How does it feel to see the film series conclude but then you also have these additional all projects that you're not stepping away from the Star Wars Universe yet? I'm really excited to see where we go with streaming. I like this I mean Dave and I have done a lot aww episodic work at Skywalker the clone wars series that was hundreds of episodes there and then we did rebels and resistance even before that I the Young Indiana Jones chronicles. So there's a lot of I I like the episodic work and the quality that we put into it. We're we're giving them a budget to actually be able to put a high level of quality into the show and so it just it just means a lot of different stories and You know new directors and editors and people come in and I. I'm very enthusiastic to see. Hey how we approach our streaming at Lucasfilm. Yeah I think we were all very curious to see how Lucasfilm would handle a live action show show and I and I I think really knocked it out of the park here and they've built a nice template for future live action work for Disney plus. So yeah we're we're really excited to To be part of that and and others other Franchisees to I think that are getting more on board with the episodic content train that I'm curious about To see where those goes well like marvel and I'm sure there's others are yeah. Would each of you tell us how you got into the business then found yourself at Skywalker. Oh yeah I started as a video games tester when I was seventeen years old testing secret of monkey island island and then I ended up at the same time this was when George Lucas was developing a non linear editing system. For sound called sound droid and he was developing gene internally at Lucasfilm along with Edit droid because he wanted to make tools to have available to do this new prequel you know. He was investigating to see if he he could internally do the post production process affordably and have a lot of options and is editorial process and so The call was given out. We need to get at that kid from the Games division to come in here and try to break our program because I was one of their top testers and so he hired me to work on android and then that technology allergy we used on Young Indiana Jones chronicles and then subsequently sold that to avid and also that the non linear editing way became the standard and I got asked to supervise his movies starting with the prequels and remastering of episodes four five and six. So yeah. That's how I started and I just never left because it was such some beautiful place skywalker ranch and just the vibe there and the people on the staff and the story I loved as a Kid Star Wars. So it's all been a little bit of a dream really. This would be Matt Thirtieth Year this year and David I started out in production so it was like a boom operator onset. I did that for six or seven years. Seven years I guess Spent the last probably couple years of that career trying to get into skywalker or trying to get into into post production. I was living in the bay area and it was just knocking on doors and knocking on doors. Sending in resumes and Matinee actually talked at one point. He you didn't have anything available at the time and then Maybe a year later reconnected with Matt through a mutual friend actually ended up having at lunch together. Opposition was opening up and Matt hired me on as his apprentice on episode to attack of the clones. Back in this in two thousand one I think something like that. Yeah and I've stayed skywalker ever since and Matt and I've worked on almost a restore. Would you like to give a shout out to your sound team. Yeah of course skywalker Addison teague and Justin Doyle or my sound effects. Editors de Selby Richard Gould or my fully fully editors Ronnie Brown and Blake Collins. Frank Manila and Margie o'malley fully walkers and mixers dialogue team team Was Richard Quinn Cheryl Nardi James Spencer. Who have all done? Wonderful work with star wars over the years with us and our assistance it's or Koya Elliott's and trae Turner. We combined all the years of Star Wars experienced in there would be like over one hundred at least and then our mixers were Andy Nelson and Christopher scare Bozo and our production. Sound Recordist Stuart Wilson. So all everybody's Buddies Star Wars veterans in there so very very happy and then we had rob Stamler at At bad robot facilitating connection between the picture department. Scott Walker. Well thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you very much interested they need to do.

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Something in the Air

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Something in the Air

"Yes, here we are again. Announcing today. This is the sustainable futures report is Friday Friday, the ninth of November twenty thousand eighteen. Recently. We've spoken links. Plastic we've spoken about climate change. But there's something in the app. In fact, there's a lot more in the ad than there should be. This week's episode is about air quality, the third big area that needs cleaning up. Before I start. Let me I welcome listeners new and old, and especially my patrons who support these sustainable futures report via patriot dot com slash as far. That's all. Ws P T E N dot com slash s. S. Thank you for your support. And thank you for your feedback. Ideas. I've come across comments in all sorts of places because apparently this podcast is distributed by websites. I've never heard of in addition to June's stitches, Spotify and soundcloud. Feedback and ideas are always most welcome. I won't to make the sustainable futures report something that you want to listen to because if I don't you won't which will rather defeat the purpose of doing this. Let's start with some good news. The United Nations reports that the ozone layer is hailing you'll remember that. The ozone layer surrounds, the earth high up in the atmosphere it shields the earth from ultraviolet rays, which can damage crops and caused skin cancers the hole in the ozone layer was I noticed over New Zealand in nineteen seventy six and traced to the use of chlorofluorocarbons in refrigerators and aerosol sprays. The trio protocol banning the use of these chemicals was signed by all the countries in the world. Followed by the London amendment and the forthcoming ca golly amendment, which extended the range of banned chemicals as a result of the holes in the ozone layer, which extended to both the north and the south hams, his gradually closing the Montreal protocol is one of the most successful multilateral agreements in history for a reason said airings Solheim head of u n environment. The cancel mix of authoritative science collaborative action is defined the protocol for more than thirty years and was set to heal. Our ozone layer is precisely why the Kigali amendment holes such promise for climate action in future. At projected rates northern hemisphere and mid latitude ozone is shuttled to heal completely by the twenty thirties funds by the southern hemisphere in the twenty fifties and Pola regions via twenty sixties. As says if the whole international community can act together to me to China such as depletion, there is hope for concerted action on climate change. Back to air quality, the guardian this week published a major article describing air pollution as a public health emergency. Pollution is caused by gases by microparticles. We spoke about microparticles plastic in the ocean last week, and how they getting into the food chain into our bodies pm two point fives fragments with I am of less than two point five micrometres candidate in the air breath in these Basel's can be made a placard nitrates. Sulfates ammonia all mineral dust, most produced by burning fossil fuels or would for driving heating power plants and industry. Different types of pollution may have defense. I levels of not dioxide mainly emitted by these lens lead to considerably foster weight gain later years if young people around the fumes in that first year of life, according to a study by the university of some kind of phone you. It found children living on their busy main roads in the first year of their life. Almost a kilogram. Heavier by the age of ten than those with low exposure. Exposure, nitrogen dioxide can also lead to respiratory problems like information of the airway and can also worsen symptoms. Among those asthma. Although the research did not examine the mechanics behind the effect pollution has on childhood obesity. Chief investigator Jennifer came from the university of southern California spoke about pollutants causing information being a possible explanation saying the most common thought is that inflammation of body systems like the lungs which may spill over into the entire body, including the brain which regulates appetite and changes in fat metabolism. Other health consequences have been exposed Eureka. Let reports that a study of children in Shanghai from birth to three years found that exposure to find particles pm two point five from vehicle exhausts industrial emissions and other sources of outdoor pollution increase the risk of developing autism spectrum disorder. Hey, St. by octa, seventy eight percent. The study included hundred twenty four children and one thousand two hundred forty healthy children as control in stages over a nine year period. Examining the association between air pollution and AST. The United Nations Environment programme has linked pollution to a huge negative effect on cognitive intelligence, especially amongst older men. Research was undertaken by scientists at Peking university in Beijing, China and here university in the US and was published in the proceedings of the National Academy of science journal. In particular, it found that long term exposures air pollution may impede overall cognitive performance. The scientists concluded that the damage on the aging brain by air pollution likely imposes substantial health and economic costs considering that code into functioning is critical for the elderly for both running daily errands and making ice take decisions. Given this damaging effect of air pollution on commission, particularly on the aging brain the study implies that the indirect effect on social welfare could be much larger than previously thought politic and cause everyone to reduce their level of education by one year, which is huge Yale school of public health. Professor zeeshan. One of the reports authors said in an interview published in the guardian. The study also suggests that Appalachian increases the risk of degenerative diseases such as outsiders and other forms of dementia. It becomes clear why the guy calls Appalachian a public health emergency. PD news. The official media. The Philippines reported on the first ever WHO will Health Organization global conference on air pollution in Geneva statistics that came out of the conference include twenty five percent of all heart disease deaths are attributable to air pollution. There are four point two million deaths every year as a result of exposure to ambient outdoor air pollution. There are three point eight million deaths every year as a result of household exposure to smoke from dirty cook stoves and fuels. Ninety one percent of the world's population lives in places where air quality exceeds WHO guideline limits. Some people in developing countries study by the light of a kerosene lantern, which pollutes the atmosphere within the home. Charities like soda aid provides solar-powered lanterns to come this. No smoke. No fuel costs either. Ninety-one percent ninety percent of the world's population lives in places where air quality exceeds h a guideline limits. This is particularly worrying because it means that both developed and developing countries are affected. For example, thirty cities in the UK exceed WHO limits of ten micrograms of fine particles, but cubing meets revere. Was discomfort with fifteen and the list includes Magister leeds-liverpool, your Sheffield, London and strangely Gibraltar. Wood-burning stoves popular and seen by many as being very green. After all isn't the CO two released. I burning mopped up by growing you trees. Maybe. So all it could take years to replace the lobes you after noon more important is the statistic quoted by the communist newspaper that particulates from such stoves account for thirty eight percent of the UK total. More than twice the amount emitted by vehicles. If you'll stay is a feature not your main source of heat keep it for special occasions. Those make sure the wood is probably dried. If you'll stove is all heating, you've got consider placing it with a more modern more efficient model even electric model. So you can get the maximum hate with a minimum cost and minimum pollution. Well pollution in the UK has undoubted health consequences forty thousand people are believed to die prematurely each year as the result of exposure to air pollution, these trivial by contrast with those found in other parts of the world. India, for example, has nearly half of the fifty most polluted cities in the world. While scuffle schools top for the U K at fifteen micrograms. Deli comes in at two hundred and ninety two but Allahabad is recorded at three hundred seventeen. An India has six other cities over two hundred the most polluted city in the world is shower in Pakistan at five hundred forty. Once again, we see the developing world suffering the worst consequences as climate change. And with plastic pollution. The Daily Mirror reports that people in the UK are seriously concerned about air pollution. Although this is really an excuse for an article to promote the hill diet neck so a hydrogen powered calm like the bus that are reported only couple of weeks ago. This con- takes an at and cleans it up removing the pm two point five in the PM tens when driven for one hour. They say twenty six point nine kilograms of is purified the same about forty two adults breathe in an hour. It's a hydrogen car with no carbon footprint in use. And it can be Philadelphia five minutes like a petrol car. So no delays or range are two that you might get with an electric car. However, the he'll die so costs sixty five thousand pounds, and there are eleven hydrogen refueling stations accessible to the public in the whole of the United Kingdom. And as I mentioned before if the hydrogen is produced by splitting it from natural gas it releases CO two so the car maybe clean, but the fuel production prices may not be let me also quote from James Spencer of potent fuels. But what about the UK infrastructure needed to meet current road fuel requirements for hydrogen? Fifty billion liters annually also applied six refineries eight import terminals four rail loading facilities six thousand three hundred and fifty miles of pipelines twenty inland. Dippers thirty thousand petrol tankers eight thousand five hundred four quarts at one hundred and forty thousand dispensing nozzles all that needs to be converted to hydrogen supply chain. Good luck with that. German company. Howard, our which means Metson number of languages, apparently is using artificial intelligence and the of things to interpret urban pollution data from census across the city. This allows pollution hotspots to be identified and monitored as they change throughout the day. So that cleanup measures can be concentrated in the most important areas. The system could not the city and show which location should be chosen or avoided the schools hospitals health centers. In. India? The economic times oppose a Delhi-based start up has designed a forty foot toll purifier which claims could provide clean add to seventy five thousand people living in the three kilometer radius around it current systems has recently got the patents for the world's largest as well as the strongest and appear fire. The pure fire which cure in Kohl's the city cleaner measures forty feet in height and twenty feet on each side, it live the capacity to clean thirty two million cubic meters of air poodle. O'day? It's make a set. The device will be able to take in Afrim all three hundred sixty degree angles and generate one million three hundred thousand cubic meters of clean APPA. Our? The ad will be purified by using the age fourteen grade highly effective particular restaurants filter H E P filter, which can clean up to ninety nine point nine nine percent of the particular matter present in the air in conjunction with a pre filter and activated carbon. The mammoth purifier. When I forty eight fans to eat the teen going device will run on energy, generated vise, set of panels and will be made with the terriers sauce locally. Hydrogen cars and cleaning buses artificial intelligence purifying Thomas will never be a total solution to the air pollution problem pollution these to stopped at sauce. Many consumer goods bought in the west are manufactured in developing nations that cheaper because wages alot safety standards of frequently level and environmental controls. All LUSA all noise instant, we in the west must recognize responsibility. At least in part for those smokes in India. China and southeast Asian. In his closing address to the World Health Organization. Global conference on air pollution Geneva, director general Dr tetris. Hon? On Gabriel sus set out targets, reducing the number of deaths from abolition by two-thirds by twenty thirty unlisted five actions. The WHO itself would take. Insuring clean energy in health, facilities everywhere. Access to reliable onsite renewable energy generation and health. Facilities is essential to achieving the goal of universal health coverage. Secondly, donate Joe will establish a new multi stakeholder global energy health platform action to achieve as DIGI three. That's the sustainable development go in the United Nations number three on health, and as the G seven on Energie starting with the focus on clean cooking. Thirdly to harness the power of health workers to be agents of change health work is the ones who see the consequences of air pollution firsthand where committee said to acquitting them with the capacity and tolls to educate their patients and decision makers about the health effects of air pollution and to have that saying shaping policies to reduce it. Fourthly WHO needs to scale up its air pollution program to strengthen countries capacity to address any pollution related health risks in needs increased human and financial resources to support WHO delay will foam on air pollution on health. A number five strong is juvenile mechanisms on needed. WHO would explore how to use its influence to establish or reinforce new international mechanisms for air pollution control in order to protect people's health. Conference had seventy commitments from countries cities UN organizations intergovernmental organizations and civil society to tackle air pollution, or to contribute to the global battle. The ozone story demonstrates when nations reach a global consensus on a planetary crisis. They can work together to achieve great things we need to do everything we can to urge governments and organizations to engage in the same way with the challenges of plastic pollution breeze -able app climate change. In the UK legal firm client earth has repeatedly and successfully charged the government for lying legal limits on air quality across the country to be breached its full group of parents, which is called on the government to release funding for emergency measures to clean up a league levels, air pollution around schools nurseries across the country. The national cleaner of children program was launched to the parliamentary reception with woollen sixty MP's, including foam labor leader admitted. An ex conservative cabinet Minister Maria mill. The program which calls for hundred and fifty three million pounds of funding was drawn up by the clean air parents network, which is supported by environmental organization and the British lung foundation. It also has the backing of the Royal College paediatrics and child health, the national education union and asked me, you k among others. This week. The government announced a five million pound competition inviting ideas, reduce the colza vehicle. Emissions minimize the amount of particulars produced and improve air quality. This is a small business research initiative competition that is being run in two phases. Up to six days can get funded contracts for feasability studies in the first phase where is up to three hundred thousand able the best projects will be invited to apply to a second phase worth four and a half million bounce to take their ideas further develop a prototype and test it's affected nece organizations of any size can apply. Find the link on the block. Well, I started researching at quality for this article. I was thinking of gases gases CO to solve it outside and nitrous upside they clearly all play a role. But the big story is particulars the microparticles, which you all breathe in with every breath. These are so tiny that they can cross the barrier of the lungs and get directly into the bloodstream. There may have also different compounds and materials and facts on the body, which we don't yet understand current levels of Appalachian much higher than they was children growing up. Now have a much higher exposure those was born in the last century. Even so as we've seen older people can suffer consequences, including dulling the intellect reduced intelligence. We don't yet know the cumulative effect over consequences will be the children growing up now in the late lives. Researchers have identified delayed intellectual development a likely link with obesity of the possibility the pollution is a contributing factor to both autism and dimension. The surprise to me was the vast difference between levels of pollution in the developed nations and the levels in the developing nations. Remember the top score in the UK was fifteen micrograms of fine particles in the cubing metro their fifteen the world average is over seventy and the world's most polluted city comes in unrefined hundred. That third world pollution is driven to a large extent by us as consumers to those who oppose foreign aid say we should spend any all cells. I would respond that we our debt to these different distant manufacturing countries. Any assistance, which we can provide them as foreign aid in the form of expertise to help them clean up their pollution. He's of benefit to his ole. What can we do to improve the situation? It's easy to say dry last fly less last by less. Don't use wood burning stove. In practical terms, we all have established lifestyles, and we do most things for the purpose. It's difficult to make bicycle changes. What you can do is recognize that driving flying food production manufacturing all have an effect on air quality and climate change. Take a moment to think if there are things you could do differently. If the opportunity arises tell your pay or your local council what they should be doing to tackle air pollution. Maybe they should ban things will maybe they should incentivize of things whatever something needs to be done. Urgently? Well, that's about it for a week other things I've been out on the climate front belonged gonna have to carry them over to next week. Thank you for listening, especially to getting this phone, you're probably a patron. But of course, it, you know, to new light to be and to give some support to these stable futures report you'd be more than moat pop across to all ws patriot dot com slash has. That's being paid T E O N dot com slash. Just as a taster some of the items. I have on my list for next time include a plastic band in Kenya. Rosy future. See oil a lower ozone layer taxing meat and electric mushrooms till I'm Anthony day that was the sustainable futures revolt by for now.

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Time to Talk

The Sustainable Futures Report

21:01 min | 2 years ago

Time to Talk

"The. Yes. Aunts friday. I'm back Fridays. And this is Anthony Tang with the sustainable futures report for Friday. The thirty first of may twenty nineteen I hope you enjoyed your Bank holiday weekend, and or after and ready to get back to the Dave routine noble public holidays until the end of August. Although most of us will probably have a celebrate before that. H reported that the concentration of CO two in the atmosphere has reached four hundred fifteen pounds per million for the first time in human history, the little time as experienced such a level that would trees, the south pole. This month. Researches from these scripts institute of ocean Orphee, the moanalua observatory in Hawaii recorded a level of four hundred fifteen two six which compares with three hundred pounds from any as recently as nineteen ten even that was high than it has ever been eight hundred thousand years. They say the alarming hockey stick trajectory of currency. Oh to possible in increases main. We basically have no idea how things we get we stop adding to the problem at such an accelerated ranked. Meanwhile, director of the US Geological Survey USGS, James Riley, a White House appointed foam oil geologist older, that scientific assessments only used computer, generated bottles that track the puzzle impact of climate change until twenty four Fourty according to the New York Times. Previously, the US GS muddled effects until the end of the century, the second half, which is like see the most dramatic impacts of global warming, clearly, the administration, not only dislikes, fake news. It just likes bad news as well. In other news opinions on climate change diverge of the US, the new Australian government takes climate related decisions, the greens advance in Europe and we hear a perspective from role to them. Sea levels are rising, but oil companies deny any liability while some suggest, we could ease the climate crisis by working short hours. I'm what about common off sense? In seems my skepticism may have been justified. I following the extinction. Rebellion protests of eastern. The metropolitan police said that they won't prosecute all thirteen hundred demonstrators who would arrested. They have Oude that disruption. This level will not be allowed to occur. Again, this could be seen as a reaction by the police to the fact that the demonstrators took much longer to clear expected on the total cost of the operation was some seven and a half million pounds, the Mets image was not helped by footage of officers on duty scapegoating and dancing with protesters. The fat remains that we have a difficult situation. Indeed extinction. Rebellion calls it a crisis situation in their view that government is not doing enough to address the climate crisis, or even to admit that there is a climate crisis, which is extinction rebellious fest amount. How should citizens be able to influence the actions of the government in the UK? We have problem that at least until recently, the electoral system has a ruling party with substantial majority. This is meant that the prime minister and cabinet have effectively ruled without having to consider public opinion or even to fight together legislation through parliament. It just comes to the point where individuals citizens have taken the government to court for acting build it. So thority over not meeting its legal obligations. For example. After the Brexit referendum, the government announced that it would give fall notice to the EU that the UK was leaving under article fifty of this treaty. Gina Mila took the government to court and the judges upheld contention that the government could not trigger article fifty without the approval of the members of parliament got most the action article fifty was not triggered until after MP's had voted on. On the other hand, compaigning legal group, client earth, have prosecuted, the British government three times under about to embark on a fault action to insist that the government should meet European regulations on equity. Each time so far client has one it's action and each time the government has failed to comply with the court's ruling effectively than treating both the court and the people with contempt. To take legal action against got money's holiday desirable than any cases. Extremely expensive and delays, not unknown in the legal system faced with this situation extinction. Rebellion decided the anyway, just get the government's attention was to adopt a policy of civil disobedience the government can't ignore the activists all the police in driving them off the streets extinction. Rebellion supporters. How said that the every activist who is jailed, they'll be others to take that places. We cannot afford confrontation and must be Donald, but it takes two to toke. A report from the Yale program. Climate communications suggests that US voters are more widely splits on climate change than they are on abortion or come control lease. It's clear that climate will be an issue in the twenty twenty US elections. Climate was an issue in the reason trading election, but in a surprise result, the environmentally focused labor party fails to win a major topic of disagreement was the development of a two billion dollar coal mine owned by India's Adani group, the project had been on hold blocked by the Queensland government. Once the election results became clear queens dropped its objections and construction consult within weeks. Commentators suggest that legislators were afraid of a backlash in the full coming state elections. If they continued to block the mine. From time to time I mentioned the oil markets reports from James Spencer of Poland fuel at east, he visited the Netherlands, he writes of a trip to Rotterdam Europe. What he says to travel, the forty hours from the mouth of the Rhine to the central Rotterdam is akin to visiting some kind of industrial wonderland really has to be seen to be believed. No written description avenue Justice to this. She has kale of the place here is Europe's largest container port cheek by jowl with oil, pressing steelworks power stations and every possible mode of transport going as you drive in land. Sometimes it feels that there are more bulges traveling down the Rhine that their vehicles on the road. Add to that. The freight trains poss- every five minutes mole wind turbines than you can shake stick out tunnels bridges, and concrete Kohl's as in every direction and you have one of the. Most exciting vibrant industrial areas on the planet. He goes on to describe, how oil and petrochemicals are the heart of all this are the areas put some four hundred thousand jobs, mostly Heine skilled, and highly paid. And how Europe apart is fundamental to the Netherlands, economic prosperity. The other end of the earth, Australia. One of the election campaigns. Logan's was they will be no jokes on a dead planet. We have to compromise these two extremes demonstrate how incredibly difficult it will be to move away from fossil fuels while preserving jobs communities. An ongoing economic stability. All of this should have been planned thirty or forty years ago, time is shorter now, effective action will be much more difficult than disruptive. It will take competent farsighted and determined politicians to cheat. It. I hope we can find some. Politicians in Australia, have clearly, failed to step up to that plate politicians in the US turned their backs on the Paris agreement on pretending it will go by. A new report from the proceedings of the National Academy of sciences of the USA cost stunts on predicted levels of c rise by twenty one hundred previously, it was expected, that levels would increase by no more than one meter by the end of the century. But research is now, find that global total scene of a rise exceeding two meters by twenty one hundred lies within the ninety percent uncertainty bounds for a high emission scenario. This is more than twice. The value put forward by the into government panel climate change in the fifth assessment report. They make the point that the contribution of melting ice caps to rising sea levels is extremely hard to predict but they believe that calculations indicate that adoption meshes should be reviewed unrevised to cope with increased risk. As David pointed out in his recent documentaries, six hundred million people live in coastal communities less than ten meters, above sea level is includes many of the richest, and most important cities in the world. Climate liability news reports of the oil companies argue that cities cannot sue a climate liability. Industry trade groups, several law professors free market legal, think tank, the US government in eighteen states have rallied behind five major oil companies in finding a major climate liability lawsuits found a flurry of grief supporting the company's against claims by the cities of San Francisco and Oakland that sake, the whole the oil companies accountable for the costs of adapting to sea level rise and other climate impacts, among other things, they argue that the issue is political that, the colts have no power to rule on political issues. This is similar to the line taken by the US government in the Judy, Ana case, remember the Juliana case, I have mentioned it for a while, but it's still going on. It's a case where group of young people are suing the government for ruining their life chances by allying the oil companies to operate in a way, which poisons the planet. Juliana is Feuer older than when the action started. The government is continuing to use all possible. Legal means to get the action struck out and to prevent it from ever coming to trial. And the other case Exxon alleges that to state attorneys general are violating its first amendment right to express its -pinion on climate change Chevron has taken a similar position. Two things clear won't soon Francisco, and Oakland will lead to spend billions on flood production to the works will probably be finished long before the case is decided. What can we do to do our bit to tackle the climate crisis? That's a constant question. But here to suggestions, the ecological limits of work published by Ortona may research suggests that we should drastically cut the working week author, Philip Frei draws on previous research showing the every option every reduction in the working week yields a corresponding reduction in combinations. And that the sustainable level of working house is very much less than the car and forty. In fact, his couch relations support a working week of less than ten hours. Fray says, I would argue that the climate crisis coals for an unprecedented decrease in the economic activity that causes greenhouse gas emissions on this from Francis. With the necessity to be lazy, if ecological sustainability requires an overall decrease in material consumption of vast expansion in terms of leisure time on thus an increase in time prosperity would be less of a luxury, a more of an urgency. Accepts cutting the working week alone will not have the desired effect on emissions and must be accompanied by the policies, for example, manufacturing fossil fuel extraction should give way to employment in service provision and green jobs such as reforestation operations. From my reading the paper I cannot see whether the reduced working week is expected to pay the same income as the cone week if not no one will be able to afford to there is if so, what nece make production impulsively expensive. It's an interesting idea. L try and track for fray down, ask him some questions for future episodes. Another publication from Altona make the shorter working week, a powerful tool to drastically reduce carbon emissions adds to the discussion. Find a link to this and links to Oli stories on the blog, which is your remember is sustainable. Futures dot report. The seconds of gestion of what we can do is common offsets. They seem to have dropped out of favor. Recently time was that when you to flight you're invited to buy some trees to offset the emissions you again to create. The whole logic of Drax power stations, conversion to biomass, burning is based on the theory that all would that is consumed is offset by new growth, which absorbs an equivalent of to CO two. In the case Drax that new crooks is in the United States, where that would come from, so they trying to gain to develop com, catchment stories. Take away. Sequester. Ola CO two, which is actually emitted by the burning of the wood on site. I've always been skeptical of carbon offsets offer all it'll take years for a tree to absorb the equivalence co two to the amount that your flight could have emitted in an afternoon. And if you Plum trees in Utah, go flying, you're actually reducing the global CO two load. But if you plow trees, unless someone looks awesome for hundred years, they won't absorb unlock away the expectancy. Oh, two. Now, propublica, an independent nonprofit newsroom based in the US presents on even more inconvenient truth. Why carbon credits? For forest preservation, maybe was the nothing. Their research is in Brazil from the plantations intended to actors offsets at either not being planted all had never offset as most code as intended on a global scale eight twenty sixteen. Nicole found that eighty five percent of offsets had a low likelihood of creating real impacts. This is partly because the money charged for carbon offsets was not enough to manage the politics games. Alternative approach to planting new trees is to pay developing countries for not cutting down, forests, the U N formalized, the concept of red or reduced emissions from deforestation on forest degradation, the UN supported pilot programs as did the World Bank on the US agency, for international development non-government organizations, and private companies funded hundreds of small scale, offset projects and a few countries results based programs, which reward preservation without generating. Offsets. Unfortunately, there is no central authority to deal with varieties of read that now exist, no one has done a comprehensive assessment of how effectively programs actually on some cases. Investigators found that red was simply layered onto existing conservation. Plans reducing to a law go to attract financing. When a tree is destroyed all the communist cumulated over its lifetime is released back into the atmosphere seem to persists in the atmosphere for about a hundred years. So to truly offset combinations. The trees of the borders. Offsets must live for at least armed years. Many don't. Twenty fourteen fi fell voter batch of credits to help fulfill a sustainability pledge it made before the world coming Brazil, the offsets came from a project launched by the painting really tried in the Brazilian state over on Dona the project aims to cut deforestation in Heine logged areas along the territories borders, and it received funding from US aid, but some members of the tribe disillusioned by the amount of money guide to international groups for the gist management colluded with loggers and anti red activists to sabotage the project, the project sold two hundred fifty thousand credits. It was suspended last year off the logos. Destroyed more trees than all the credits. So. Similar stories come from Cambodia and other parts of the world. Let's not forget that if common offset projects were perfectly unlocked up amount of carbon equivalent to the amount issued by the organizations by the offsets. We would only be exactly the same positions will be full common. Offsets the too often seen as cheek get out of jail, free card allying polluters to pay some money on goal. Polluting. Trees on one of the best ways of extracting CO two from the we need more trees. We need to hope deforestation. We need industries to reengineer themselves to stop pollution at sauce. No one should be allowed ease that conscience on the back of the offset myth. And finally, did you send me a book, somebody came in the post last week I think he's my Michael, and I must have lent it to someone who's decided to return. It's note, but if it was you, thank you very much. The boat by the way, is enough is enough building a sustainable economy, in the world of finite resources by rope dates, and Dan O'neil. It's a good read. You could borrow it. If you like. Next week. I'll be talking about waste, but tickly electronic waste an idea suggested by patron Shane. To patrons of recently joins his shelter for golden Canea and Darren Paris. Thank you. And thanks to all my patrons for your support. If you get a patron, we'd like to be one. Just pop across to patriot dot com slash SF. Aw. That's P. A. T E, N dot com slash S FM where you can support these stadium futures report for as little as a dollar a month. Your ideas, and comments always welcome either via patriot or to male at Antony, dash day dot com. Before I go his date fuel diary between two six June date the climate coalition, and greener, UK organizing mass lobby of the Westminster parliament to urge the government to earnt trying to. I'm hoping to be that details at the time is now map dot co dot UK. The time is now map dot co dot UK. That's it for another episode of the sustainable futures report. I'm answering day. Thank you for listening. Thank you for your support. 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Ecosystem Collapse

The Sustainable Futures Report

24:01 min | 6 months ago

Ecosystem Collapse

"Hello and welcome to the sustainable futures report for Friday the twenty third of October I'm Anthony. Davis. Apparently it may take seven hundred years to improve the nation's housing stock. Shame that the grand scheme I mentioned last time ends next March. CCS Carbon Capture and storage is in the news again, and so our Greta Timberg and Erin Brockovich from her birth Kovic is a disaster like we've never seen. But amid reports of collapsing ecosystems, are we missing the big picture? Those more extreme weather. A you in the loop the hyperloop. Watching language. A recent article suggests on choice of words is crucial. When describing the climate crisis. Ecosystem collapsed. That's a fatty stunk use of language. Insurance giant Swiss re warned this week that one fifth of countries worldwide are at risk from ecosystem collapse as biodiversity of the world's nations declines. Fifty. Five percent of global GDP depends on high functioning biodiversity and ecosystem services bass. And major economies in the in southeast. Asia, you're the US are exposed to bess decline. By diversity and ecosystem. Services decline. The report finds developing countries that have a heavy dependence on agricultural sectors such as Kenya or Nigeria on susceptible to best shocks from a range of biodiversity and ecosystem issues. Among g twenty economies, South Africa and Australia top the rankings off fragile best. The well-known impact of water scarcity is a drive of these countries alongside factors such as coastal protection and nation. Brazil and Indonesia enjoy the highest percentage of intact ecosystems within the g twenty. However, the country's strong economic dependency on natural resources highlights the importance of sustainable development conservation to the long-term sustainability of that economies. At the moment, the Bolsonaro of Mount in Brazil seems to be pushing strongly in the opposite. Direction. The report highlights several real life cases of how this impacts economies. For example, the destruction of the arrows see which led to economic collapse in mass migration from the surrounding coastal area provides an extreme illustration of how the collapse of an ecosystem can affect literally company. You may remember that a river was diverted in order to irrigate cotton fields as a result, the owl see previously a rich fishing ground almost totally dried up. Other examples include the. Impacts of invasive species, nutrient runoff, an Algal blooms, or the effects of the loss of pollinators on the agricultural sector. Double Medical, research is also very much a threat from the decimation of route rainforests as almost fifty percent of all medicines, a social natural resources within this habitat. The Swiss re best index provides guidance for governments. Governments must recognize the value of ongoing F diversification combined with conservation and preservation efforts. The. UK Government's Biodiversity Indicators Report Twenty twenty shows that the country is in line with international trends. Fourteen out of twenty four indicators showed long term decline. The UK government's twenty nineteen state of nature. Report showed that in two thousand eighteen nineteen government funding for UK bio-diversity was point. Two percent of UK Gross Domestic Product. One thing that jumps out is the rather worrying decline in public sector spending on bio-diversity said Professor Richard. Gregory head of monitoring conservation science will RSP, which is the Royal Society for the protection of birds. With the climate and biodiversity crisis nature based solutions are part of what we should be doing. So it's crazy when Nelson investing in this. Natural England which is sponsored by Defra Department for the Environment Food on Rural Affairs. Has Seen its budget cuts by one hundred, eighty, million pounds since two, thousand, eight and continued cuts having a huge impact on the protection of habitats conservationists warn. A Guardian editorial laws we concluded the comment. The government requires an environmental sense of purpose, specifies the appropriate ends economic activity. The economists Kate Roth has pointed out that affairs to do so has left a gap which politicians fill by maximizing national income. Then, also obliged to ask if additional economic growth is sustainable. Governments ought to confront whether the growth of real GDP is to destabilizing for global ecosystems. For decades, the planetary boundary resorts US has been exceeded because conventional economics is encouraged political leaders to concentrate on goals that allows the irrelevant to human welfare. The article continues. Preparations for the postponed cop twenty, six climate summit to be held in Glasgow on the ideal way for Britain to take lead in global discussion. Boris Johnson should use the platform to frame UK policy proposals boldly in terms of that impact on people and the planet, not just the economy. Yes. What about cop twenty-six? With just a couple of weeks off the original November date for the conference now postponed for twelve months. Many meetings of major conferences. Now, going ahead online that postponement looks to me to be short-sighted. Cop Twenty six will be the five year review of the global nations progress towards the Paris Agreement. Targets. Already. The general consensus is that on prison performance targets will be widely missed. It's not as though we have plenty of time to deal with the problem. Typically such a major international conferences preceded by months of diplomatic activity led by the host country. The UK is the host this time with Business Secretary Alex Chama as conference. Let's hope uses the next twelve months wisely or leather still that rumor that former Prime Minister Theresa may we'll take over the role from. May while in other news, com capture and storage, whatever we do some bounce, our economy will be burning fossil fuels and emitting greenhouse gases and other pollutants for several years to come. If we have to use fossil fuels. Let's try and minimize the damage. Carbon capture and storage. CS. As being seen as the solution for years, but like fusion energy is just not quite ready yet. In fact, grist reports that the International Energy Agency the EA as said that achieving our emissions targets will be impossible without CCS. In a recent deal, a consortium including Amazon and Microsoft invested in Common Cure Technologies at Canadian firm seeking to slash the carbon dioxide emissions of concrete. And concrete production is a very significant producer of emissions. Calvin works with nearly three hundred concrete produces to inject captured co two into that product. The injected gas chemically transforms into limestone reinforcing the concrete. Amazon will use the in its buildings including its voss new headquarters in Virginia. The funding from Amazon will be critical to rapidly. Skyla the solution we've developed said Christie Gamble, the director of sustainability at carbon kill. Common capture is still in its infancy. There are only about twenty projects and commercial use worldwide according to the I. A, but billions of dollars in investment is clearing clearing into the sector. Microsoft has announced a moonshot climate plan that will involve direct act capture a co two and biomass energy carbon capture, and storage where wood chips are burned, and the resulting common is injected into rock formations. Norway is launching a full carbon capture and storage project names long ship after the Viking vessels while a direct act capture project for the opinion basin in the southwest United States is doubling in size and aims to suck up a million tons of CO two a year. Just above things into perspective the US Geological. Survey. Estimates that the global emissions of energy related. Commodore. Totaled thirty two and a half billion tons. In twenty seventeen and of course, it's risen since then. The US government is pitching in recently awarding seventy two million dollars to two dozen different carbon capture initiatives. Come couch account come soon enough. But as a long long way to go. The UK Energy Research Center has just published a briefing paper entitled the pathway to net zero. In the UK. Base I mixing the government's net zero emissions. Go for twenty fifty will only be possible by complete decarbonisation of the building stock both existing and new. Almost. All of the UK's twenty nine million homes will require a grade by twenty fifty. That is about one million dollars per year, and there's equivalent of all the nineteen thousand times per week. Current retrofit rates are inadequate for achieving even a significant proportion of the required level of decarbonisation to meet the twenty targets. The replacement of fossil fuel based heating systems is happening after even slower pace. In Two thousand eighteen only twenty, seven, thousand heat pumps were installed in the UK are the vast majority of new build homes are connected to the gas group. As, a result, the proportion of hopes he's he by gas is increasing. There was a record rise last year in the number of new gas borders install showing the UK is going in the wrong direction. Gas is a fossil fuel. So it is essential to eliminate its use as far as possible if we have to meet our twenty fifty net zero targets. Hate pumps work like a fridge in reverse. Running on eligibility they extract heat from the or from the ground and pump it into your home. If homes are built to a high installation standard higher than currently required. A heat pump is appropriate but they do have disadvantages which makes them unattractive in existing homes. I I fall more expensive than gas boilers. They work at a much lower temperature than gas boiler seven ideal under floor heating but radiators have we much larger to be effective. A heat pump count to instant hot water. So hot water storage senator is required. The total installation will take up much more space than gas boiler. Although these pumps are more efficient than boilers in that they extract the environment not from the Tuesday that they are powered by. With actresses being more expensive than gase running costs a line to be similar. The report says. It is extremely unlikely that heat decarbonisation will be achieved without significant policy interventions. Fund the mentally it is important to recognize that the speed and scale of the raw required heats transformation maze that relying on consumer led schemes. Such is the renewable heat incentive and the planned clean heat grunt on not sufficient. Incentives for consumers need to be part of a suite of policy measures based around skills, financial support, and packages. Local. Area based planning approaches and cross industry strategy will be needed. It's been calculated. The car rates total decarbonisation of the UK would take seven hundred years. But to be fat in last week's interview, Simon of trust Mount pointed that government had a manifesto commitment to substantially increase investment in retrofitting insulation and the installation of heat pumps. We hope this will follow on when the green homes grab scheme ends in. March twenty, twenty one pot for anything else it will be a job creator. Reduce Reuse recycle a while ago. I reported that the chief executive of a Kaya. All I care the furniture company. Predicted that we were reaching peak stuff and that we would stop as consumers just buying things. And concentrate more on services. Now, he's GonNa step further and announced the stores across twenty seven countries will start taking back that products for resale or recycling. You get a voucher to spend in the store in return for up to fifty percent the price. The game will be launched on Black Friday and the company say by making sustainable living more simple and accessible. It K hopes that the initiative will help its customers take a stand against excessive consumption this black Friday and in the years to come. The schemes, not totally simple. You stop by making online offer, and if it's accepted, you must return the item fully assembled to the stole. Not. Old products qualify although the Popula- billy bookcase is specifically mentioned. There are reports department store John Lewis is considering a similar scheme. Could this be the start of a true Sukkur Economy This now James Spencer tells me about clean. Air Leads according to Transport Journal route one the city of Leeds in northern England intends to formally abandoned plans for clean as to see as ed Counsel James Lewis Lied City Council, Deputy Leader, and executive board member with responsibility for equity said when we consulted on the C as in twenty eighteen. We said that we hope that nobody would be charged because businesses would switch to less polluting vehicles before the charging system took effect and that's exactly what has happened. We've achieved the aims of the without having to charge a single vehicle. If leads to introduce a see as today, only a fraction of vehicles will be affected. The vast majority of businesses are now using cleaner vehicles and they were just a few years ago. Besides Leagues Bristol in Sheffield on other cities that are reconsidering that clean as proposals after seeing major improvements in equality through changes in travel behavior. Due to the centralized nature of administration in the UK and he's such decision will be approved by the government in London. Do. You remember Erin Brockovich. The eponymous full was based on the true story of her role in a lawsuit against Pacific. Gas and electric of alleged contamination of drinking water. In Real Life Erin Brockovich is still compaigning. According to the hill, she's warning that America. is now a water crisis far worse than people realize. She says, we are in a water crisis beyond anything you can imagine. Pollution toxins everywhere stemming from the hazardous waste of Industry and agriculture. We've got more than forty thousand chemicals on the market today with only a few hundred regulated. We've had industrial by products discarded into the ground and into a water supply for years. This crisis affects everyone ritual pool black or white Republican or Democrat communities everywhere think they are safe when they are not. A new book is called Superman coming. Even. As this new book seen seeks to bring attention to the quality of the US what would supply the quantity of water is dwindling as climate change goals both droughts and floods that exist America's infrastructure. As wildfires rage across the West Coast, the East Coast is bracing for Lower season. Brockovich. Doesn't have much faith in the government to come to the rescue either. These issues start with tiny seeds of deception that of a matzen years to become major problems, our resources are exhausted. Corruption is rampant officials tried to cover their tracks. People are not putting the pieces together when it comes to the severity this crisis I've got senators, a doctors calling me asking me what to do. She says. She's created a community health book to allow individuals and community groups to report and review health related concerns and community environmental issues by geographic area and health related topic. It's a community that initiative. Find it at community. Health. Book. Dot Com where you can see graphic pictures of dirty water. At the moment is exclusively for the US but maybe it's an initiative worth copying in other countries. Other big name in the news. When is it not as Gretz? Bag. There's a new film out about how I am, Greta. I don't know whether you can watch it give them the cinemas role closing, but there is a link to the official trailer below. Smart Cities World reports that Virgin hyperloop has picked West Virginia for a futuristic transport tests enter. The company claims that the hyperloop set of vacation center will create an entirely new ecosystem creating thousands of new jobs across construction manufacturing operations, and high-tech tech sectors. As we look to emerge from the Kobe nineteen crisis it's clear that we need twenty-first-century solution that will propel US forward allowing us not just a rebuild but actually evolve said Jay Walder CEO off Virgin. poop. If. You remember hyperloop is a high speed passenger transportation system which sends vehicles along tubes at extremely high speeds, powered and suspended by magnetic induction the causal pulse touch the sides. It's ideas suggested by Elon Musk of Tesla and SPACEX. And his original design envisaged to speed of seven hundred and sixty miles an hour. Which would give journey times of thirty five minutes for Los Angeles to the San Francisco. Bay. Area or eighteen minutes for London to magister. A two, thousand, seventeen and Metro reported a contract for Ninety Mile hyperloop from Dubai, to the capital of the which would be complete by twenty twenty. It appears the project is still alive, but no date for completion is currently available. I feel bound to ask who is hyperloop full What is it full? On Post counties. Or send me an email. If you can explain why hyperloop is a good idea or h is too for that matter. Even, if there's a logical justification for them. Which I doubt. Should we be giving such projects priority in this time of climate emergency? We're warned that extreme weather is a consequence of the climate crisis true to full and on the heels of a succession of hottest years on record we now come to the wettest day on record. According to the Met Office Saturday. The third of October was the wettest day for UK, wide rainfall since records began in eighteen ninety one. The downpour followed in the wake of stole Alex and sore an average of thirty one point seven millimeters or one or two inches of rain across the entire. U K. The total amount awarded was enough to exceed the capacity of look ness the largest lake in the UK by volume. Fortunately, Lebano reports of Tallis's. But when stole Alex hit parts of Italy and France, a number of people lost their lives. On Finally Watch your language writing on medium dot, com Tabitha whiting urges us to be careful with our choice of words when discussing climate issues. Change is the first one she picks up it's to neutral insubstantial trouble is that alternatives like crisis and emergency suggest short-term problems that can be quickly overcome. Overusing them dolls that power. Avoid, talking about believing in climate change she advises belief implies the possibility of debate and disbelief, but the climate crisis is a scientific fact. Then, their goals like the Paris agreement goals the too impersonal. Look instead of the human consequences of failing to meet those goals. Fighting Climate Change. Well, it's a fight we've picked ourselves. We are the ones who have stabilized the climate with massive nations. If we stop that, the climate will stop defending itself. Eventually. Finally. Neutral. As in common neutral she describes it as a classic greenwashing term. Organizations. From supermarkets, the government's claim to be at or on the way to common neutrality. That my only mean that they are imaging at the same level as they have always done but now they're buying offsets. I've just offsets extensively in the past. I have to agree with type watching that we're deluding ourselves if we really believe offsets the answer. The science on that point set me leaves plenty of scope for disbelief in the effectiveness of offsets. And that's it for another week. Thank you for listening. Thank you for being a patron if you are and thank you for sharing ideas. Keep them coming. There will be another sustainable futures report next week, keep safe and well until then. I'm Anthony. Day that was the sustainable futures record. Until next time.

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"Hello welcome and this is the sustainable futures report for Friday. The Fourth of October and I'm Anthony Date today. I'm tying up more loose ends awesome bringing you stories which I haven't had time to cover over the last few weeks you'll hear about system change about protests prosecutions and protests to count and about energy oil gas hot water can we over engineer on climate solutions also talk about stormy weather official title about Plastic Green New Deal and the circular route to climate salvation and another news. There's a flying car rentals metals and does eating red meat really affect our health. The general consensus in the the scientific community is that we need to make rapid and radical changes in order to meet the challenges of climate change will lead politicians across the will of immense calibre to unite and lead people to accept and implement these changes consultancy vivid economics is working alongside energy transition advises and the United Nations supported principles for responsible investment on a project called the inevitable policy elsie response the Ip all these aimed at investors but through investors it will impact all areas of business. They say government action to tackle climate change is so fall being highly insufficient to achieve the commitments made under the Paris agreement when the market's default assumption appears to be that no further climate related policies are coming in the near term yet as the realities of climate change become increasingly apparent. It is inevitable. Governments will be false to act more decisively than they have so far. The question for investors says now is not if governments will act but when they will do so won't policies they will use and wear the impact will be felt the IPO project forecasts a response by twenty twenty five that will be false little abrupt and disorderly because of the delay in anticipation PRI vivid economics energy transition advisors of building a focused policy scenario which lays out out the policies that the likely to be implemented up to twenty fifty and quantifies the impact this response on the real economy and financial markets. There's a wealth of information that website as a link. Only sustainable futures blog which you'll remember is sustainable futures adult report it only includes scenarios and toolkits despite criticism. Maybe the Labor Party was not so far out when it's conference last week voted to aim for net zero carbon emissions by twenty thirty this won't be easy and was certainly not popular pillow with all the delegates then mcclosky for example general secretary of the United Trade Union which provides the largest contribution to the Labor Party. Eh rejected the whole idea complaining that old petrol and diesel cars would have to be confiscated in two thousand thirty families will be limited to taking only one flight flight every five years. The truth is that we will have to make changes but doing things differently doesn't necessarily mean that they'll be worse of course we ought delaying action until the very last minute and things like infrastructure changes which can take ten or twenty years from planning to completion. Chretien will not be ready for twenty and things may be much more difficult to lay already. It's a consequence of starting late. An reason why we are going to need supremely able politicians leaders forward seen any sue primly able politicians racing two weeks ago we saw about six million people around the world supporting the school strikes grizzled bug was prominent at the United Nations his client conference. This is all wrong. I shouldn't be up here. She said addressing the generals assembly shaking with rage. I should be back in school on the the other side of the ocean. You have stolen my dreams my childhood with your empty words. We will not let you get away with this right here right. Now is where we draw. The line was ironic that the more she criticized the world leaders the more they applauded protest goes on and protest protest has its consequences in Germany. A group of villagers living on the edge you wanted to Germany's biggest is coal mines avowed not to so properties to the energy company W. E. and to mount a legal challenge against any attempt to oust them from their homes. They announced at a press conference. What's and just hold off on Monday. They would refuse an expropriation agreement without w. E. Under which the energy company would pay to resettle them this would mean the company company would have to apply to the regional government for full of emission to dispossess the residents but the villages said they within Josh this in court the dispute has been rumbling on some ten years but perhaps the villages have a better chance of success given that Germany has announced that it will phase out coal by twenty thirty eight in fact coal presents. A diminishing proportion of addict has generation across the world arguably it is particularly important that this mind should be stopped because it produces lignite which is the dirtiest form of CO protest goes on the Juliana case which I've mentioned many times on the sustainable futures report is still weaving its way through the American Court System Twenty one plaintiffs accused the federal government violation of the constitutional rights not just of that generation but also a future ones now aged eleven to twenty two they accuse federal officials in oil industry executives have knowingly creating a national energy system that causes climate change despite decades of evidence that come out said emissions from the burning of fossil fuels destabilize the Environment Mont officials did not really failed to regulate and restrained biota actors they argue but actively facilitated there in devas the thereby violating citizen's constitutional rights to life liberty and property while also jeopardizing essential public resources the plaintiffs filed their complaint in Twenty fifteen nearly ten years ago practice goes on. I'm practice has is consequences back in April. Extinction rebellions protests attempted to close down London over a period of two weeks. More than a two thousand people were arrested including Zoe Cohen who appeared on this podcast a few weeks again. She's already appeared in court to plead not guilty and faces trial now on the twenty second of October. Although the challenges of manual for minor offence of obstructing the public highway instead of issuing warnings the police are aiming to prosecute. Everyone Caroline Lucas the Green Party. MP said people who were prepared to take part in nonviolent direct action was showing ball climate leadership than government ministers. She said in the future it won't be those peacefully blockading bridges. Oh blocking roads in history judges badly it will be those who shut their eyes and look there is the failure to avert the climate catastrophe is the greatest moral failure of our time and people from all generations in all walks of life have had enough of those with power fan to act my choice of bind moments. One of the defense lawyers involved in the Exxon cases told the Guardian earlier this year that the crackdown by the police and the Crown Prosecution Service appeared to be deliberate and expensive attempt to browbeat those in society most motivated to do all they can peacefully but firmly to mitigate environmental ornamental collapse he had his the proportionality and altruism communities actions is in stark contrast to the face saving short termism the authorities extinction rebellion will nevertheless be back next week from next Monday the seventh of October and for the following two weeks weeks they will attempt to blockade Westminster until the government meets the demands these all for the government to tell the truth about the climate crisis to take action to halt biodiversity loss and achieve net zero common by twenty twenty five and to establish a citizens assembly on climate and ecological Justice Zombie will be there and she tells me she will be arrested again if necessary. I'll be there among the at least I don't have the courage to be arrested but I'll take my recorder and get reactions reports those who take pont. Let's talk about energy edgy. There is news the latest offshore wind farms can divert power below the current market price and Wellman. Oh half of the price guarantee guaranteed to the Hinkley C nuclear power station plans include the establishment of new wind farms on dog aback a large shallow area in the middle the North Sea. These could produce some three point six gigawatts roughly equivalent to conventional stations. This month's newsletter from the Portland Group explains how the road of Coal in a trustee generation is declining sharply. Even though the absolute amount consumed is growing at least in some markets gas is taking an increasing share of generation. This is a fuel with much lower emissions Jason Kao and with no particular it's director James Spencer writes about the dilemma between the need to cut emissions and the increasing use as a gas which what is cleaner is still a fossil fuel imaging greenhouse gases businesses such as Portland. He says have to deal L. in realities rather than ideologies. I strongly resent his characterization of environmentalism as an ideology it makes it sound like some sort of lifestyle choice. Rav the largest body of pair reviewed science. The world has ever seen yes. The real real world is Papa Oil. I will need oil tomorrow and next week and next year we'll the gas to to generate a city and he but we know that businesses usual is not sustainable and while we have to fuel the infrastructure that we have the replacement or redesign designer. The infrastructure has to be a priority eventually. Ideally sooner or later oil will go the same way as Co.. I am the Portland is coming for the day. The News also comments on nuclear power is a known and efficient energy. She saw says that has seemingly been written off. Despite the fact that it contributes precisely zero c o two into the atmosphere Portland is neither an expert on Nora or a cheerleader for the industry but can't really be sensible to walk away from this endless source of energy. I have some sympathy with his point of view. Nuclear PA is indeed clean and emissions free operation but don't forget the significant carbon footprint involved in the construction and the decommissioning process and although nuclear is supposedly established technology holiday an episode of this podcast goes by without me commenting on the delays actually see and the technological problems at its sister station under construction in frontal Villanovan France the both of these units away of a budget and years almost a decade behind schedule as I go into above the EH guaranteed to see is more than twice the cost snubbing chief buy. Com Toshiba has pulled out of nuclear power it touchy has abandoned rounded plans Renuka station in north Wales. You clem may might technical sense but it seems to be far for making economic sense also on the Energy Front. I read a recent article about smart water tanks. We've all heard of smart meters which are supposed to nudge consumers into using energy more efficiently now. Welcome these smart water tank. which does it all for you? The Mix water tank is part of the Internet of things it is smart because it is designed to heat under the water you need and can be programmed to have that war available at the time you need it. It's a heater for domestic hot water and can be powered by Jersey Agus aw boiler or heat up because it is network as pontiff incentive things it can be monitored and controlled remotely. The manufacturers described the advantages for sheltered housing projects that system can ensure that every resident has the hot water. They need at the temperature butcher. They need without risk of sculling. They mentioned a pasteurization cycle. Which I presume is a measure to eliminate the risk of new genetic disease as a domestic user. You can have your very own mixture g unit and what's more you can monitor it and control it from your smartphone. The key advantage these units have is that they can monitor energy prices and choose to heat when prices most favourable low prices suggest at times of low demand so these units will not be using power at the peaks help to smooth the load on the grid unlike like a smart meter which relies on the consumer to ten things on off. You'll mix edgy tank does Olis' automatically so so far so good but I do feel that this solution is somewhat over engineered ice fancy the idea of having to monitor my water system. I'm on my phone more importantly. I questioned the whole idea of having a central source of hot water whether it's a Komi boiler or a mixture g time thank such systems always have the pipework problem by this. I mean that you have to run the top. Jill Award has made his way along along the pipes from the boiler or tank to sink bothell shower this wastewater and the very production of clean drinking water has carbon footprint quite apart from the energy needed to heat it once you finish the tunnel atop the pipe between the boy and your tap is full of hot water which gradually goes cold total waste of energy. We should surely be looking at instant. Electric shower is an instance electric water heaters for sink botham basin. I will look at Mixture G. DOT CO DOT UK and see what you think now to the widow large parts of the the United Kingdom recently headquartered a lot of rain when I look out my window to the river who's is that the riverside path is under about a meter of water and the river is about four times as normal width by the color of the water. It looks as though even more topsoil is being flushed out into the no see more heavy rain is forecast all cost for this weekend as Hurricane Lorenzo weakens and makes its way across the Atlantic generally whether in the UK is an inconvenience lenience elsewhere can be far more serious. We have to be very careful not to say that these weather extremes prove the climate change is happening. We we can certainly say that. If climate change predictions are correct these adjusted sort of weather events which we would expect experts have warned that a a section of the poem. Paseo glossier on my block is at risk of collapsing according to the Safe Mountain Foundation two hundred in fifty thousand cubic meters of ice must be about two hundred fifty thousand tonnes could break from the rest of the glassy. If this volume of ice fell down it would reach the valley floor in eighty seconds Stefan Barrichello a public work council of the AILSA Valley Aljazeera these phenomena once again show that the mountain goes through phase of strong changes due to climate factors Stefanina MS rookie the man of the nearby city of Coal Maya said in a statement that'll it is particularly vulnerable in India. One hundred people have died in Freddie in the states of Bihar an Qadesh with vast areas be inundated by delayed monsoon rains in talk for dish ninety. Three people have died due to the incessant. Rains is which caused hubs to collapse and led to an increase in snake bites dozens of people have also died in behind where boy boats have been deployed to rescue skew strategy residents experts blame a lack of planning and poor drainage systems which have been unable to cope with sudden an incessant rains range of the recent days Onnell Sean of the India Meteorological Department said Bihar and experienced a deficit of monsoon rains until into last week. When heavy rains returned levels to normal a major cause of the flooding was the lack of natural drainage affected areas? He explained not actual drainage has been destroyed. Not Repulsive being destroyed people have built the houses on the flood plains these other problems because once you destroy the natural drainage water doesn't to find a place to go out it leads the flooding he had warnings continue the IPC's latest special report on the Ocean Chris. ASU In a changing climate warms that choices made now on critical for the future of our Ocean on Chrysler crossfire is apparently the regions of the earth like the polls and mountaintops which accompany Nice welds ocean on cries fear having taking the heat from climate change for decades indicates and consequences for nature and humanity are sweeping and severe said Cope Barrett Vice Chair of the ABC the rapid changes ages to the ocean on the frozen parts of our planet of forcing people from coastal cities to remote Arctic communities to fundamentally alternate ways of life she added by understanding the causes of these changes and the resulting impacts and by evaluating options that are available. We can strengthen our ability to adapt. She said the Special Report on the Ocean Christ in a changing climate provides the knowledge that facilitates these kinds of decisions extreme sea-level events that used to occur once essentially will strike every year on many costs by twenty fifty no matter where the climate heat commission on not according to the report off the world's mega-cities an almost two billion people live on coasts. Even heating is restricted to just two who degree centigrade scientists expect the impact of sea level rise to cause several trillion dollars in damage yet and resulting many millions of migrants. It's as link to the food press release and the report on the sustainable futures report block more warnings the World Meteorological Organization that W AMMO says the five year period twenty fourteen to twenty nineteen is the worst on record sea level arise has accelerated significantly over the same period a co two emissions have hit new highs the WMO says Cobb county effect efforts have to be intensified immediately as reported previously professors David King Foam chief scientific advisor to the UK government and says he's been scared by the number of extreme events and he's cold for the UK to advance its climate targets by ten years on the other hand the UN's weather chief says it using words like scads could make young people to press anxious. It's the perpetual dynamic China. If you over emphasize the risks people may well become depressed fatalistic and demotivated. If you've done emphasize enough people will I believe there is no problem and that they don't need to do anything balances key and it's also very difficult to achieve. Why are we making progress. Some say yes but not enough according to Arabesque asset management more than a third of the world's it's top two hundred companies still do not disclose their greenhouse gas emissions despite rising concern urgent action is needed to avert dangerous levels. Luke level in the organization has developed an analysis tool s ray which analyzes the sustainability of all companies across the world all right. We'll do all undress. FAINA chief executive of Arabic esrey said companies may appear to be taking steps to reduce their impact on climate change but many choosing to keep the full skype their emissions under wraps to avoid losing investment arabesques temperatures schools should help make investment more transparent by assigning a three degrees centigrade increase to companies that failed to disclose that climate commissions. He said a warning to investors a report from the Global Commission adaptation warns that Climate Climate Change is upon us and it's impacting most available each passing year global actions to slow climate change out promising insufficient. We must invest in a massive save effort to adapt to conditions that are now inevitable. High temperatures rising seas fisa storms more unpredictable rainfall and more acidic oceans specifically. They say our research finds investing one point eight trillion dollars globally in five areas from twenty twenty. Two Twenty thirty could generate seven point one trillion dollars in total net benefits in other words. Let's failing to seize the economic benefits of climate adaptation with high return investments would undermine trillions of dollars in potential growth and prosperity in the face of all these warnings. Are you surprised I'll be supporting Exxon down London next week and in other news fast food chain Burger King. UK will no longer give away plastic toys with children's meals amid pressure to reduce use plastic waste the chain also encouraging customers to bring in old promotional plastic toys which it says it plans to melt down to make items McDonald's believed to be the world's biggest distributor of plastic toys through that happy meals have no plans to stop giving them away in future future. Children will have a choice between a toy or a piece of fruit still on plastic. Lucy Hughes a recent graduate in Crock CROC designed from the University of Sussex as developed a bio plastic made an old guy fish waste that would otherwise end up in landfill. She received a James dyson award biodegradable and combustible material called Marina tanks can break down in soil oil environment in four to six weeks and be disposed off through home food waste collections low. It looks and feels like plus. Take initial testing testing suggests it stronger safer and much more sustainable then it's oil-based counterpart the green you deal an hi dear originally thought up in the U. K. is now reaching prominence in the run-up to the next. US presidential election doney saunders as declared the climate crisis in national emergency and lost his version of the deal a sixteen point three trillion dollar plan that includes massive investments in renewable energy green marine infrastructure for quantites and money for research. It's an idea which was also mentioned at the recent Labor Party conference to me. Almost it's an idea which needs review in much more depth of this L. ING to cover it in detail in a future episode as leaders from around the world gathered in New York for the recent climate week the Ellen Macarthur Foundation in collaboration with material economics launch completing the picture how how the secular economy tackles climate change the paper reveals the need for a fundamental shift in the global approach to tackling climate change moving to renewables can only address fifty five percent of global greenhouse gas emissions. They say to achieve. UN Climate Goal also paper highlights the urgent need to tackle the remaining forty five percent and demonstrates the potential of the sector column by looking at five key areas steel plastic aluminium cement food adopting a circular economy framework in these areas can achieve achiever reduction totaling nine point three billion tonnes of greenhouse gases in twenty fifty. This is equivalent to eliminating current emissions from all forms of transport globally these examples provide a clear message to other industries such as fashioned tectonics and packaging of the value on you the sector economy offer diet shift emerging innovations and carbon capture and storage of the final pieces required to complete the chip of how the world achieve net zero emissions by twenty fifty completing the picture how the sexual call me tackles climate change brings uh-huh and important missing piece to climate change solutions demonstrating that by building a thriving and resume economy businesses financial institutions and policymakers kissed play an essential role switching to renewable energy plays a vital role in addressing climate change said Dame Ellen Macarthur but this alone will not be enough in order to achieve targets on climate it is critical that we transform how design make and use products and food completing the picture through a transition to a sector economy can enable us to meet the needs of the growing global population while creating a prosperous and resisting economy that can wrong in the long term as a new flying tariff you would you plan to deliver their first models to customers this year. It's a two seater on the wings. Fold up so that you could drive on the road. You need an answer to takeoff takeoff and you also need a pilot's license. It's expected to be popular in the United States where it will compete with shorthaul flights both in terms of Kosta inconvenience inconvenience writing in medium technology. Motlana compares it with the Niskanen Leaf Electric car. He points wants out how far electric cars come since the originally was launched and he sees a similar development in the flying car will see. I think this raises all sorts of questions about safety on about the need for travel. The Chinese fine 'cause plan. Would you buy are completely autonomous. I think I'd feel safer in one of those but I do think the tariff Eugene looks really nice in the video as a link to it on the blog. Are you going to have to this nice. Steak isn't me bad for you. A new report at this week causes all sorts of controversy scientists have reviewed the data which was analysed to show that red meat and processed meat but bad for you and they claim that the the evidence is too small to be significant of course while the health implications may not be as serious as previously thought to in forget the effect on the environment she on Capitol ruminants as they digest that gross they produced quantities of methane which are significant proportion of the greenhouse gases emitted into the atmosphere by human activities. We've already heard about attempts to reduce methane by feeding cattle seaweed and there's a report in the paper today day about breeding sheep with the same objectives in view nickolay. Lamm a sheep geneticist out Scotland's Rural College said the reduction in greenhouse ask gas emissions is a global issue requiring transnational and transdisciplinary approach example nomads to determine is in there. I wonder if these new sheet. Thais different best solution is not eat red meat or at least to eat less blessed and finally in the previous episode. Alice kabbage presented the one dissolve metals. She's now published a talk talk on her blog ethics in stem. Don't blog spot dot com so you can read that and that's is it and that's it for another episode of the Sustainable Futures Report one of the longest to date. I'm Jay. I'd like to thank you for listening to being a patron hatred if you are. I am feel comments my email and social media. Your feedback is welcome much appreciated. It's nice. You're listening otherwise. Why should I do it. This episode has contained a lot of different stories and there are extensive links to my sources on the blog I interested in whether you like his home at a whether you propose look just one or two stories in great depth all suggestions welcome to mail APP Antony Dash Dash Day dot com and we'll be another episode next week. Several organizations have contacted me to suggest that they should be interviewed so we'll see where that goes in any cases on the like. I should have done interview them before next time but as I told you I will be in London with extinction rebellion next this week and I'll bring you some comments demonstrators that I hope so that's impetus week. I'm Anthony Day. Thanks again listening

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282: Rails on Windows is Fabulous with Scott Hanselman

"You're listening to the ruby on rails podcast on the five by five network <music> <music>. You're listening episode to eighty one nine on your host martin today. My guests is scott hanson. He is a programmer teacher and speaker. He works out of his home office in portland oregon for the web platform team at microsoft. You've walks about technology. Culture gadgets diversity code the web where we're going where we bed then he is excited about community social equity media of all the open web. He has three podcasts in a youtube channel. One podcast a weekly talk show on tack one on occasional one hour essay on developers lives and one on social media and tech culture show with his friend levy recently he wrote an article called ruby on rails on windows. This is not just possible. It's fabulous using w._l._s. still too envious code and so i invited him on the show to discuss it. Thanks for joining me today scott hi. It's my pleasure. Thanks for let me hang out with you absolutely so scott. What is your developer origin story developer orange story. This is like my uncle ben go to think about like when the when i got bit by the radioactive spider that programmed in logo <hes> when i was eleven twelve i was getting into some stuff i needed to not be getting into and i was kind of on the street causing trouble and there were some meetings and there were some principles that got got together and talked about me and my fifth grade teacher <hes> noted that i was pretty good with the the apple two in the in the school and there was only one right. This wasn't like everyone had a computer or every class. At a computer there was just the computer the one that the school had and they let me use it and that kept me from doing the things that i should not be doing on the weekends and kept me away from the gangs and the different people in the neighborhood that did not hanging out with and that slowly elite became a thing and then one day i came home and our driveway was empty. The car was gone. The van our family van was gone and i and i went in and i you said where's the van and my dad had sold it and bought a commodore sixty four for me and then i spend my weekends in the basement on the commodore sixty before and that is how it started how that is so cool well. This is the ruby on rails podcast. I do need to ask what is your experience with. Ruby on rails in my experience with ruby before rails was in two thousand and four two thousand five with a thing called water w._h._a._t. W._h._a._t. I are web application testing in ruby <hes> that was up at ruby forge dot org and i think that may be long dead and <hes> as far as that you are l. and i basically <hes> wrote an automation tool that would take you'd right ruby and you automate eight i e and i worked on that <hes> and made it plug -able with n unit so basically i was at dot net developer using a unit testing tool and i wanted to go and an automate applications as if they were a unit tests so c. sharp driving testing driving ruby driving kind of prese pre selenium but early early days of selenium about fourteen fifteen years ago and then rails kinda shortly thereafter but i wouldn't call myself a fully rails the person my my language of choices c. sharp but i also don't like being told hold that something's not possible so anytime someone says oh. You can't do that in rails than just do it anyway just to make them feel bad. I like that well. Oh you know the whole idea behind rubio's developer happiness and i've always equated you with all of your content your blogs and just your positive attitude with developer happiness. I feel like they kind of go hand in hand. That's great. I really appreciate it. That's very kind i've actually <hes> was in japan and had matt's on my show show number number four sixty one and got to hang out with him in two thousand fifteen and i think that <hes> we being both people who optimized for happiness and being kind of joyful a full revived right away tastic so microsoft has become a huge influence in the developer community. How do you feel that they we did it well. I mean i can only speak for what i've watched so i'm not a spokesperson or anything but i feel like there was a time time when microsoft said no to everything like it was just know as the default answer and lawyers would say no and the bosses ashes would say no and that's not possible and you can't do that and through a combination of people doing things without asking like asking forgiveness rather than asking permission and people realizing that yes goes farther. We slowly changed the. We've kind of flipped the script now how people don't say no. They say well. How can i make that possible. Lawyers say well. That's a weird thing to ask but i don't see why not. Let's see how we can do that and we slowly slowly in fact wasn't ruby on rails directly but one could argue. I just realized this. It's good that you brought this up. Pretty one could argue that ruby on rails sales started microsoft's open source transformation because ruby on rails was getting people in the a._s._p._c._a. Dot net space kind of nervous as model view. Controller is a thing and like rails. Does this announced on that so we went and made a e._s._p._n. Dot net m. v._c. Model view controller which is effectively dot net on nails except they told me i couldn't call it that i love that name but it really would have been amazing right but remember early microsoft's sucked when it came to naming so everything we do everything we named had to be lame so <hes> we made e._s._p._n. At n._b._c. i wouldn't and say to compete but petition their <hes> to compete with ruby on rails and in doing so realize it had to be open source of course and it was the first major major piece of open source dude another stuff before but for the most part espionage n._b._c. was the first major open source thing and then we slowly started going down towards the metal right. If you make the web application open source then you make the compiler open sourcing you make she sharpened all the way down to the jitter and the run time i and everything and then we went right back up from the metal and made olive dot net core open source and then making ruby on rails run on i._s. on windows. That was using an open source product to do that so you could you could draw at least a straight dotted line from rails to microsoft's current current excitement around open source. That's awesome. I mean there's just been so many tools and just an attitude about microsoft and i remember hearing that microsoft had the most amount of code on get hub at one point. I was just absolutely amazed by that yeah. It's it's interesting because you have to ask yourself. Where's house microsoft getting paid right. Like how do we make money. If you think about out facebook where you're the product in google where the stuff you're searching for is the product amazon where everything is the product. You know we're microsoft. Wants your four loop right. They don't care what your four loop was written in if it was written in ruby or whatever because we're selling compute so we want you to buy office. We want you to buy an xbox. <hes> <hes> and that's why i like things like the windows phone. Dying wasn't really like a huge deal or new sad but it didn't wasn't major because i have an iphone right and i i run word on my iphone and you know i run react native apps on my iphone and you know i can run stuff that let's microsoft run four loops in the cloud so the transformation to cloud really made microsoft wbt very clear about where their money comes from so a lot of the kind of shady stuff that they did thirty years ago. They don't have to do any more. That's great well. Let's set up a wide right you onto the show today to talk about your article so essentially what happened to me at work i- accuser for i would say the last ten years and certainly only have never coded on anything other than a mac and a mike computer failed at work the the s._s._t. Win and unfortunately the logic board it went with it as well and i'm in an organization of about one hundred people and so ninety eight percent of those users use windows and just because i was a developer oliver. They've always allowed us to have a mac. Things were always weird because i was not one of the normal people security patches printers displays you name it. I've i have always been an odd yeah. There's no sympathy when you're that person right absolutely not you find out that your cousin doesn't like the avengers movies. You're just like oh. This is going to be really awkward for the rest of our lives exactly and so i really had the opportunity there to either send the mac away and probably be down for three or four days or they had a brand a new shiny del ready to go all loaded up and you know your article about <unk> on windows tweeted it out and i kind of took it as a sign that i think it's good for my career to not only be more flexible but i thought it was just good for me to you know flex my wings a little bit and see if i could pull it off. Let's that's cool. Well and let's let's give people a little bit of historical context because no disrespect to the ruby on rails community. It has been a fair statement. Maybe you can correct me if i'm wrong that ruby ruby on rails on windows being epic has not been the number one priority absolutely not. I completely agree with you. It's always been assumed any of those rails bridges. It is or rails girls that you are just going to have a very hard time. If you come in with a machine that's not a mac yeah yeah and that and then things like homebrew brew or app get like all of those things are really. Just you know. It's the it's the step kid that you didn't like windows is like well i if you have to run on windows and you remember there was the ruby on rails windows installer projects they were there was a valiant effort. I mean they worked really hard to make it work absolutely but ultimately it hit it hit the metal it hit the sea part of ruby and then kind of fell apart down there at the at the metal yeah and you mentioned that you like to take on challenges so i'm curious. What was the motivation behind writing. The blog posts well so i have a mac. I'm looking at a mac and i have surfaced. I'm turning my head the other direction and i'm looking at my surface right now and you know mac should become they're fine but they kinda lost me at the touch bar so i switched over due to a surface book too and i very much enjoy that and windows ten you know sucks incrementally less than windows eight did right and i i happen to be a very much much of a hot key person so i really unless you have like quicksilver or you're really good at spotlight. There's not a lot of hot keys on on the finder side side of mac so i i really liked the fact that i can move quickly and windows with hockey's so i i prefer windows as my place my my home place but i wanna be able to run anything whenever and anytime i bump into like oh. This is a great rails app. I gotta work on that like oh man like twenty two virtual machine like it's just it's should not be that hard and then someone was telling me that they were moving to a windows machine and we've got this little internal a <hes> project right now. We're we're trying to look at all the little <hes> we call them. Paper-cuts developer paper cuts that make someone not like windows like all the little things and you know how when you you're maybe maybe you know now as a windows person you're gonna be googling around and you'll bump into some cool tutorial and you'd like this is great right and then you see the go to the command prompt and you see the dollar sign dollar. Sign is the u unify unified universal. I'm at the command prompt thing right correct and then the windows person goes off. I mean it's not it's not it's not greater than sign therefore you're i should not be here. It's very ushering feeling and is like you know. We need to make this work. So of course windows subsystem for lennox on on windows makes that work and then the some poor person had a similar situation computer didn't work anymore and they wanted to run rails. I said you know i'm going to see how awesome rails is on windows coach. 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Did you basically sit there and try to come up with steps knowing that you had this modern tool set with windows. Ten wasn't hard to find the stab asserted you reach out to other people <hes> once i kn- well i have a little bit of a superpower in that. I know some of the people who are working on these things so for for me. The game of windows tetris is slightly easier like as you're playing tetris with your own machine in the sense. That piece goes here. I'm going to need this and i need virtual toolbox that and you snap together your own personal. You know bat belt your toolkit of stuff because i know what's coming in. What's being worked on. I get i get a little bit sort of a thing. It's like playing tetris but you know the next piece right so i have that little preview so i i did know that stuff was happening and i had just come back from from from oscar on the open source conference riley open source conference so i was able to talk to dozens and dozens and dozens of developers were all switching to windows as well so i knew what people wanted and i knew it was coming and i figured that this was a good time to put it all together into one blog post. So do you mind giving a quick recap of what steps are needed to be taken to have a fabulous admirals experience with rails absolutely an in order to do that. Let's if you don't mind talk about the subsystem lennox what that means so so so windows is is new and constantly being refreshed and there's quarterly updates and windows ten so not every version of windows ten is <hes> is equal so if you happen to be a person's listening to this show and you have a windows machine you can go and run win verd- w. I n. v. e. r. just go hit the windows key in our for run type wind ver and you'll get a version. You're running windows ten. Remember windows ten around for a couple years several years <hes> the version that that i'm running right now is nineteen zero three and that's two thousand nineteen and then oh three is march so you might run this on your machine as we're as you're listening to us and it's eight hundred three eighty nine or whatever <hes> you're gonna wanna be on nine hundred ninety three which is march of twenty nineteen. You know a recent build of windows rose by running windows update and making sure you get the latest stuff and windows got all this historical context but ultimately windows windows. It's not lennox and we wanted to make sure that people didn't have that feeling when they got to the dollar sign in their favorite tutorial and they said i don't wanna be here and we know people who run sig- win and did you ever run seguin on your windows absolutely right so sigmon is bash on windows but here's the thing and this you'll appreciate this as a as a computer scientist. It's not lennox though it's bash. They took the c. Code the portable c. code of the canoe utilities and they re compiled them against windows instead of against lennox so it's not calling lennox. It doesn't look like it's just a it's a similac rim of flanax. It's on a virtual machine. It's simply bash but when you say l._s. It does a d._r. Right it just uses the windows. <hes> file system api is to list out the files but it allows you to run your bats bash scripts but it is it is a shell on top of windows. What w is sal does is when someone someone and we'll be does help me out with this. When you're in ruby and you say like fi open a file does ruby then call like when does it hit see if i am in ruby and i opened a file windows see get involved. Ooh good question yeah the that's why in the par sir so right so the partner is going to go in and be running running this code. It's going to interpret it and then ruby on windows caused the windows file a._p._i. Right and then ruby on lenox caused a lennox a._p._i. And the cetera et cetera and if somebody he wants to port ruby to their world then they're going to need to go and make sure that they build that bridge her act. I don't know what the is for opening a file on ruby but you know what i'm talking about. Absolutely absolutely it isn't ruby that does it. Ruby asked the operating system and then the operating system is the one that actually opens the file right same thing with rails rails opens up report to go and listen h._d. Port five thousand ultimately windows or lennox or mac opens the port the networking stuff so with wwl wwl what they do is they take the lennox user mode binary is the binary and lennox and they sit on top of windows and they would basically do a left hand right hand. The left hand is windows. The right hands is lennox and lenox has hey open a file and windows goes. I'm not lennox but i'll do it for you and it basically is a big legal proxy. It's a lie. It's a fake out. It pretends to be lennox. It's actually the lennox user binary but there's no lennox colonel and this was called wwl abuse l. the windows subsystem links and let's run ninety five percent of lennox stuff on windows natively so you can do this. Now you can literally take your windows machine. Go go to the store and type lennox in the windows store and you can go and download wounded right now and you will. It's not a windows ubuntu. It's up microsoft a boon to its actual laboon to the tar file and it'll come down. It'll installed a boon to a new machine but if you're using the first version of wwl it's going to be kind of slow because it's not really lennox underneath wwl two is what made your experience so nice. This is an actual kernel. We now ship a lennox colonel with windows windows ten. It is a real actual inex- colonel and we're running tiny little virtual machine. A little virtual machine lit not the big virtual virtual box hyper v. like thirty gigabytes in two minutes to start up. It starts up in one second so like right now. I'm you can't see this but i'm going to open my terminal. Okay my terminals open an open tab one one thousand two and there it is now. I'm an arm and leg. That's how fast it was to open on on my machine. I did the same. It was just as fast. It's this is real. This is a thing <hes> you can run. As many as you want. Okay you can have a boon to an open soussan fidora so whichever lennox makes you happy which everyone makes you more successful running ruby on rails great so you go to the store making sure you have version of windows ten. That's recent and you're gonna turn on wwl to now. You can go to the store and type in lenox. You'll see ubuntu all the other ones. You need to turn on the windows subsystem system for lennox and there's a there's a one line power show that you have to do a one line power. Shell it says enable windows optional feature you can google for that or check a look at my my post if you linked to it and then <hes> if you are on the latest windows insider version of windows you would just set your award distribution of lennox to version one version two totally up to you version two of course gives you all these new speed improvement. It's actually ten times faster than the original one now. Did you get the new terminal or are you using the one that's built into windows article south solid line okay go away. That's what makes me happy so the terminal all the dos prompt the console on windows sucks. It sucks and it has sucked for decades. It doesn't have tabs. It's just recently got true type fonts. It doesn't really scale very nicely. It's not there's no transparency. It's just kind of like welcome onto the console so we've made this new open source windows terminal and it is like x. Term i term to like it's a legit really cool terminal all and it's open source. It's only version zero point two so it's just getting started but in fact if you checked your windows store yesterday or the day before you would have got an update with even more more and better tabs and you can go and kind of blowing it out as much as makes you happy i've actually gone and made a memes and reaction gifts so when my bills fail eller succeed i get a meme in the background as an enemy gift and my terminal because i'm a total nerd. I love that yeah. It's fun so once. I've got a boon to running on the terminal. The terminal is not required but it just makes your experience nicer. If you're a a mac person or two person then you can install eighteen four or sixteen. Oh for whatever makes you happy. I think eight hundred four is the place to do for rails and then i literally just went to go rails dot com and i went through the ubuntu instructions and this is really important. I wint the immune to instructions on windows because i was actually legitimately running a boon to but the part that's interesting is that you might be listening and saying wow. That's a a lot of time for you to spend scott saying use a virtual machine but it's not i've used v._m.'s used v._m.'s. V._m.'s feel like another place ace. They're like they're. They're elsewhere right. You have your machine your windows machine your mac your whatever and then you have that other place which is your virtual machine and you moving files amount of it or a hassle and it feels clunky it. You can feel your computer like firing up on time to start the virtual virtual machine remote desktop. I mean if you hire different experience. It's a box inside a box and it's it's not fun. Wwl windows. Subsystems is not that because. I hope that you did the trick that i share where you go. Explorer daddy exceed dot and you can actually open up your files so you're running lennox but you can see your files. You can open them up in visual studio code. You can talk to rails in a natural way. Did you do the the extensions and the remote stuff us as well individuals via code. Yeah that was the part that scott like absolutely melted my mind how seamless it was was the <hes> the remote execution pack because because it it's it's great like it just feels native yeah and what's what's great about it in. This is not not to tease but it's native because it's native is native like it seems impossible but what i finally figured out why it's so brain melting. We've all used visual studio code. We enjoy it. It's a nice lightweight editor and it has extensions and we install extensions and of course you know you don't want to add too many extensions because then you'll just turn it into something kind of messy enlarge <hes> <hes> it allows you to have remote extensions so you can install the ruby extension not inside inside windows where it would not do any good because you don't have ruby installed you install it inside boon to so basically visual studio code runs in windows runs on windows runs you know outside windows and then when it needs to do ruby stuff it just talks over a local host into the other place which is <hes> ubuntu just works so you have your extensions only being used on a a bigger project-by-project a lennox by links basis so if you were doing another ruby project or a python project or a rush project you could even have a separate distribution of lennox for that and have a separate extension extension and it would only show up if you decided to open it on that on that distribution so it's a very nice clean way of doing stuff so when you're typing your ruby you're getting in tele sense right. You're getting a syntax highlighting. The language server a language server for ruby the thing that parcells the ruby and gives you that drop down own and those instructions isn't running on windows so when you type object and then you hit dot there's a moment and then it pops open list of here's the things that you mean that language server is running so you get absolute guaranteed compatibility. All of your days of rails and ruby not not feeling like rails and ruby. They feel like they're a second class. Citizen on windows are gone completely agreed it was it was incredibly seamless and you know i typically use a very specialized i._d. I use resign from your brains. Can i installed it on windows and i was all prepared to use use it and then i downloaded v._s. Code and use the remote execution pack and i kind of shrugged my coworker who still incredulous that i cross over to windows that that i'm just going to stay on v._s. Code i was really happy with it. Yeah it's pretty slick and there's you know there's a couple of bugs and a couple of small things that aren't really perfect or intuitive like for example. Currently there's a bug where you have to think about your i._p. Address local host and this is a really interesting thing again thinking thinking from a computer science perspective which is if you start up puma rail server <hes> in a boon to what's local host like is this a different machine or not and there's two things to think about the computer science perspective but yeah it's a different machine. It's a tiny virtual machine but then there's the user experience. Do i think it's local host. Do i feel like it's local host. We we postulate. We microsoft would postulate that that it is local host from the point of view of the user yes did you. Did you find that intuitive. Yes i was actually concerned. Whenever i booted my legacy rails application location for the first time i was concerned that i was going to need to do some configuration within above into in order to see it on my windows browser <hes> but i didn't and it just worked right and that's actually a magic that we're working on. We're about halfway there. It's not perfect in the previous version you would have to run i f- can fig and look at your interface her facial network interface and then you'd hit that kind of you'd have a local network like if you've ever done virtual machines with <hes> with anything really with parallels parallels or virtual boxer hyper v. you hit one seventy two dot something something something and it it's just enough of a moment where you're like and you and you've uttered your environment but what we're doing here is we're noticing if you open a port in a boon to your expectation is that that port should be available outside so so when we see that port opening a new boon to punch a hole and we are basically <hes> routing local host colon three thousand or whatever you're all the way in just seamlessly just seamlessly <hes> right now on the current version and i mentioned this on my blog post you do have to bind two zero zero two zero at zero which is the all available peas that bug has been fixed the next version of windows which will come out in a couple of weeks <hes> just regular local host so that would be one twenty seven zero two zero dot one so that extra little moment we have to go rail service dash be for bind that will go away and it'll become even easier outlets tastic will you. I tweeted out the article. I saw the first comment was asking whether or not ruby on rails still existed and of course you had an amazing defense folk. Why do you think that still happens here. Here's the thing keep in mind that keep in mind that i run dot net ryan mcdonagh person and people say the same thing. They're basically saying anything over. Five or ten years old must not exist. You know and i don't wanna be like old man who shakes fist at cloud but you know i've been doing this for thirty years. You've been doing this for some years you you. You're grown. <hes> you have a exciting mature product that also has a dynamic comp- community but just because it's not you know noun dot j. 's that came out. Yesterday doesn't mean that it's not awesome <hes> and yeah the ruby on rails hype machine ten years ago was huge but it's huge now. It's huge in the enterprise at sheets. Get home runs it. I mean like just because it's not like i dunno new and it came out last week. <hes> doesn't mean it's not amazing dot net and dot net core are are having a renaissance right now in my in my world and people will look at me like it's cobol. I think it's frankly disrespectful. There's a lot of great stuff out there. That is even older thirty years old. That's that's perfectly valid. God i agree. I think there's a lot of value placed on stability. <hes> rian rails version six should be dropping anytime soon and there was a little bit dismay in the community party that the new features are stabled needed features for enterprise legacy applications what i how we listening to users and making products that work and will work for years. That's what would they do that. It's craziness so one of my best friends is currently working towards becoming a developer for which is extremely exciting so i'd love to hear the story behind first timers only dot com. Oh well so kent dodds and can't dodge actually just came up with a new podcast earlier this morning. <hes> i think it was conversations with kent <hes> and i both share the idea that <hes> it's too who hard for someone to get started in open source and people should be welcomed but they they they roll into get hub. They find their favorite project. They hit on the issues and so this is not a good place. There's no front door. There's no there's no place for first timers to show up. It's friendly that says this is for for newbies. This is a place not only. Is this an issue that you can get involved in open source with but it's something that is <hes> twenty. We'll walk you through we as a team. We'll help you be successful with this so that you're not alone in your room doing open source and feeling bad about yourself. You're joining a community entity. We marked the issue as being appropriate for first timers. Now this is not a unique idea can't had the idea i of the idea. James spencer had the idea idea like there's there angie gonzales and arlene peres made a get hub app that automates making these issues. This is one of those things where someone says says oh. I made the light bulb in fact turns out. Sixteen people all made the light bulb in the same week because it's a good idea right so there's first timers only there's your i p they are which is another great one to james. <hes> teams spencer did all of these cool examples of places where we just wanna knock the gate keeping down and and make it so i can be a successful and enjoy myself and i was only just attempts to be kind of a a homepage on ramp for getting started is is it automated or do you have community members out there like locating these issues so right now. This is all just kind of manual community type stuff. It's more of a movement mint than it is a piece of software. I would say that some of the botts for example the bots that <hes> angie perez made would allow you to make one so so <hes> impressed as get hub app that basically can you install it on your repository and if you name a branch i dash timers timers then it'll automatically see the branch and turn that into an issue so there are ways you can just take the idea of having a friendly issue like it can be as simple as going to your existing open source project that you've got right now and tagging something as newbie friendly or first timers only friendly and when someone shows up there and they say how do i get involved. They click on issues. I'm doing it right now and they go and they see tags labels and they all look friendly for friendly for newbies. Good first issue good. First issue is i think the term that came out a number of years later from get hub so if you search for good i issue these are all just expressing expressing the same idea that everyone should have a spelling error or something simple so helping contributors find your project with labels help wanted is another one that's used but i think good first issue is great because that that feeling that you get when you've committed and had your your your pull requests merge the first time if you have a great first experience. It's pretty good chance to have a good second experience. That's a great point. When i was a bootcamp instructor. A lot of my students would spend most. It's their time building greenfield apps but i slowly onboard them onto either contributing to open source or writing content that could be published in a a ruby weekly newsletter and it was unbelievable the confidence boost they got when they're interacting with someone. That wasn't me the cool. It's very cool so so <hes> <unk> a to some of the show if you have one piece of advice for listeners whether it be about open source community or perhaps content creation and what would it be who gosh i mean i've been blogging for twenty years and i've got seven hundred episodes in my podcast. Those are all incorporated and encapsulate calculate my opinions about what my advice is so. I'll actually be a little metaphor you. My advice to everyone is that you have a finite number of key strokes left in your hands before you die. Who will you give those key strokes to so. Let's say that you louis email me after this podcast right and i've seen you online and we've chatted a couple times but you know we're we're friendly but we're just getting to know each other. Let's say let's say brittany emails me and says hey great gration ira question and it's about rails and i say here on wwl and i you know britney is nice but do i know we're going to give her three thousand of my key strokes as a lot i only have so many right that could take me an hour for sure but if i blog about got it if i did a podcast but did a youtube if i put it in a wicky or afaq or on my website or in share point or one note or a wicky or literally <music> anywhere except an email back to you then i e mail you the link and if i do that for twenty years dan i'll be a person on the internet. The has a lot of content behind me and i didn't really change anything. The only difference is i took all my emails and i made the information and the content public so if you're just getting started stop emailing people take your key strokes and put them literally anywhere but the email and email people links because i'll email it to you and you'll say hey thanks good job and then the next person even if only one additional person visits it's my blog. I've doubled the number of strokes. I love that that's fantastic. Advice will speaking of key strokes. How can the listeners follow with what europe's here well. I'm an epic battle right now with scott brand toilet paper tissue and if you can go and google for scott <hes> it's it's scott sports scott brand toilet paper and those people <hes> re put a restricted trademark on scott so if you you you know like hammer pond blog about this podcast brittany and scott did together make sure you link scott to hansen dot com my website so that we can defeat scott brand toilet paper. That's fabulous advice scott. 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How to Save Yourself From A $200,000 Mistake As PT Clinic Owner

PT Pintcast - Physical Therapy

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How to Save Yourself From A $200,000 Mistake As PT Clinic Owner

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I'm concerned about you. I want to know where you are to do that. Live watching the replay. Same thing replay. And where you are Let's get to the guest tonight. Like this is something i know very little. If not i'm going to say nothing about right now Guests that c of car. Which is the nation's leading provider of healthcare real estate for healthcare professionals. Let's bring him in colin car. Welcome to the show. Colin had me great to be here because we get the hard questions out of the way. Very early okay. Toughest question is always first. What are we drinking. so i'm still. I'm still keeping it real with my lacroix right here. Royal makes you feel fancy. Well this in. This is also a pamphlet moves flavor. Yes water freshman grapefruits use me. It sounds so fancy when the front. The frontier i again. I'm doing You know how like when the the bigger taller come in the four packs of buddy sent me the mega boss. So i save this. Because i want around for special occasions so thanks to To jay grimes and company for for dropping me beer. So cheers to you. No matter what you're consuming with la. The pump is very good so call. We we introduced you as saying. You're you're see this organization leading nations leading provider of healthcare real estate for healthcare professionals originally. When when i saw this on her schedule of talking about real estate. I was like this doesn't make any sense. I don't understand how we're gonna make sense. This makes about as much sense as a physical therapist who used to be a radio. Dj hosting a podcast about therapy. I talk about you. Let's find out who you are. You brief backstory e. What brings you to the to the profession that you absolutely well. I'm broadcasting from castle rock colorado. That's where i. It is a suburb south of denver. Twenty thirty minutes. Quick story me. I grew up in northern michigan. Little resort town called straightaway. They're they're more on the french for beautiful town of water. Really cool place I got into property management when nineteen while managing apartment complexes. I met a gentleman that on a bunch of buildings. I told him i'd work for free. Just wanted to learn what he knew and he was gracious enough that mattress there moved to colorado when i was twenty s started magic apartment complexes in denver as well got my broker's license when i was twenty three and after a number of years of doing traditional commercial real estate deals office tenants retail tenants land investment whatever whatever moves industrial. I had the chance to work for a handful of healthcare providers and the long story short as i witnessed firsthand how how badly healthcare providers were getting traded during negotiations. Lot of times. They didn't know it. But i knew. Because i knew the margin on these deals and i watched a handful of healthcare providers lose literally tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars in few deals and it gave me the idea to go on that side of the transaction so two thousand nine started a company called at the time car healthcare real day. We short into car because everyone's shorts everything no matter what. The name is shorten two to one word or a few ladders. These and all we do is represent healthcare tenants buyers so physical therapists that areas dentists. We don't less properties. We don't have a sign in front of a building. We only have healthcare providers with a real estate transactions. It doesn't make any sense. Twenty years ago this wouldn't have made any sense but now with with geography being out of the equation terms of being able to make deals and survey properties. Virtually now it makes complete sense right. It's just if the funnel around completely This is fantastic. This is so neat. I mean that's the niches. The new broad right here in twenty digital age. Yeah that's the game. I made when i was when i was in commercial real estate. Most brokers are generalists. They'll do an office deal retail and industrial land. They're just looking for the transaction. You do find certain agents that will start to focus in in specific areas. And at the time. I started this. There were a handful of brokers at all they did was medical but they are all on the landlord side. They wanted to work for the large hospital system. They wanted to work for the publicly traded wreath at all. They did his own large medical office buildings and nobody was on the doctor side and again i had a couple of transactions where i was actually on the landlord side were for a large landlord publicly traded landlord hundreds of millions of dollars in assets they negotiated professionally for a living and we had a transaction. Where a doctor was doing a renewal plastic surgeon. They're in a building. They've been there for a while. They were paying twenty nine dollars a square foot. And i asked the landlord asked me said. Does the doctor know the market. And i said no. He doesn't he said does he have a broker now. Is he willing to move now. And i talked with the doctor told me. Everything's for us as motivation. And so the asset manager. Who's a guy sitting in a cubicle. In scottsdale who gets paid to increase values of of real estate increasingly rates. He said go back to thirty one a square foot and i said well he's already paid twenty nine and we're marketing space in the building. Twenty four like. I mean if this guy is looks at the brochure. This guy just does some hallmark and he goes. We already told me. He's not willing to move so even if he sees the brochure. You said he's not willing to move. Wow and he and he said and he said market lease rate. Cowan is the most that i get these guys to pay and so we did a deal with an t at twenty four square foot because that. Enc knew what he was doing. It had representation with a very broker. And then we come up to this. Plastic surgeon deal and the assess go back Thirty one up while you start running a seven dollar score a difference on three thousand square feet all of a sudden you got twenty one thousand dollars in extra rant per year tenure. That's two hundred ten thousand and that is you know you bill dollar. You don't keep a dollar so you make it two hundred ten thousand mistake on just the leash rate you might have to produce a million dollars to pay the pay those invoices and then that's not even getting into the fact that it's very common if you know what you're doing you're have really good representation. You can get free rent. Even on a renault you can get what's called the ten proven allowance where they will give you money to renovate the space. That's very common in commercial. You're gonna commit to a five seven or ten year lease though give you money. So this this. Dr not only pay national two hundred thousand more than they should. They got zero. Free razzi Forty fifty thousand dollars there. And then they got no money to renovate their space which means that their space looked worse than it should have because they wanna put money in there. They could have got a brand new refresh and south. You start to add up the numbers and we're not talking about against saving a dollar on a case rubber gloves or can i get. Can i get disinfectant cleaner by the case load if i buy it in ball can i say four or five dollars per case we're talking about you make a mistake. It's gonna cost you. Tens of thousands at the among usually. It's it's hundred thousand dollars. How many patients. We have to see to make up the difference in that. We're talking about months or years worth of extra patient interactions. Wow you is pound foolish. You mentioned hey rubber gloves you know if i buy in bulk or if i go to amazon can save a couple of nichols in fumble this this big transaction. I'll be honest. I don't know anything about it We we talked about this before we started on my background's radio broadcasting and i was i was. I was a radio podcast today where we got into a topic of the things that we know right the things that were kind of experts on. We tend to devalue those. Because hey i know about communication stuff so i just assume everybody knows about communication substance valuable right so i put it down here on molest instead of way up here because if it's rare doubt it's valuable but just knows it and what you know there is something that can save people hundreds of thousands of dollars over there practices letting you talking about a two hundred thousand dollar mistake for for one thing. So this is something that you might be a great clinician but you could completely fumble the ball in the one and put your practice in the whole just by not asking for help and this is the funny full circle partners is how we close the loop is we as clinicians will look around and say listen. If you just saw me sooner that back pain would have gone away. Six months faster. You could a worked more if you if you work with your hands. If you move on with your life. I mean not even just your job. We said it all the time if you if you just saw me because i'm a professional and sometimes we'll just negotiate things because we're like. How hard could it be. And the problem is in commercial real estate. You'll get one crack at this thing every five seven or ten years. That's really big problem because most of the things in life you think. Well if i it up then i could hire someone to fix farming the future or if i tried a doesn't go. Well i'll just hire someone. Yeah you try to your repair your dishwasher or you try to do something handy around the house you try to build something you try to buy. Something have doesn't work out. Just go somewhere else. Or i'll get someone to do it for me. The problem is as a healthcare provider. You starting to go thinking you're going to the take the do it yourself the diy mentality and then what you're doing though is you're showing the landlord that you have no idea what you're doing you show up without representation. Here's like italian. Chipanga is not showing up without representation martin's not showing up. Charles schwab not showing. These people are coming to the table with with either an internal team of real estate professionals at all. They do is negotiate on behalf of that large company or they're hiring the most qualified broker they can possibly find that market. The reason being is because it's typically it's their second or third highest expense payrolls typically number. One real estate comes in very close at number two in most scenarios. Whether it's two or three doesn't matter it's a big deal you're hydrating you're highlighting where it appears at first glance that man if i'm going to hire colin that's a cost. I'm gonna pay colin something. I don't wanna pay anything. I do it myself yes you can. You can do it yourself and you can pay yourself zero dollars so hey man. You're ahead until that negotiation occurs. But here's here's the here's the sucker punch which is what you're talking about. You might walk out of the room thinking. That was great. I paid colin. Nothing and i got out. And i did that deal. The deal was done but you have no idea what could have looked like or should have looked like if collin had been in the room where someone like you had been the room and take it one step further and and give give a little more insult to injury on this one here. Here's the biggest misunderstanding or misunderstanding in commercial real estate healthcare providers specifically think. Well i don't hire an agent. I'm going to save money. The problem is you're the buyer or tenant if you're operating as a healthcare provider buyers attendance don't pay commissits. Landlords sellers achim issues so just like in residential real estate. If you're buying a home in reservoir You don't pay your broker. The buyer's broker gets half the commission from the listing agent. So if you're going to sell your home you hire listing agent. You negotiate agree to pay them a commission and then they offer half commission for someone to bring them a buyer if the buyer shows up without in agent than the listing broker gets a double commission. So here's the problem in commercial real estate you have all these tenants that are healthcare providers is no sophisticated company. Does this but you get a healthcare provider. The doesn't understand the business side of it and they say well. If i don't use a broker i'm going to save two percent three percent. The problem is you're not the one determining the commission structure lammers already at a commission agreement or has a set amount of money set aside getting paid whether use a broker. Not this if you are a for sale by owner in your doctor selling building yes you could choose the south yourself in all we pay half a commission but in this scenario of being healthy provider you are a buyer or tenants. The commission's already set aside for you have a broker so if you don't use an agent or broker same thing you not only waste thirty forty hours of your valuable time. You get an inferior deal. The money that would have paid your broker gets paid to somebody anyways. It's kind of the best analogy i give. You is imagine a patient having a couple thousand dollars set aside with their insurance. You already met your deductible your premiums were out there and so you got a couple thousand dollars available to you to go to the doctor and you say well i'm going to go pay cash or not going gonna go at all and yet. The insurance company had the money set aside. It wouldn't have cost you a dime and you your forego the procedure or whatever you need or you to go ahead and pay pocket and it's like well you just lost a lot of money you didn't have to. The money was already there say landlords and sellers pay commissions tennyson buyers should never either agent broker and so as a healthcare provider. You get one hundred percent free representation. It doesn't cost you thing. Wow i mean this this this this goes in line where at first glance things seem very very simple right collins trying to sell me something man he's trying to make collins to make and he's he's telling me i mean his pitch sounds good right. Hey you hire me you pay me and save you money But when you start at first glance it might be like well. I could just do it myself. And here's here's three different ways that you can really botched that job. I'll tell you that makes you a good real estate broker. Make sure you get a great tax person right. I mean these are the people you can do your own taxes by all means you're going to step on tax code. There's a bunch of stuff know. I've done taxes when i didn't have any money when i was a new grad because we have to lose then but do you have any idea what you're waiting in there. A great somebody who knows their craft. And i'll call it a craft because it that's that's their craft. That's the thing that they do Whatever they're charging investigate but also it's probably going to be worth your time and your effort and definitely your money while some of those stories just like just blow me away just really really blew me away. So wait. We've talked about. How can you negotiate yourself. You can negotiate yourself but you've added a couple of reasons why you probably shouldn't but is there ever a good reason to negotiate yourself. Not that i can tell you. I mean here's the problem even if you were. Let's say you were a master negotiator. You're taking your expertise of what you've done. Maybe a handful of transactions may have ten locations. Maybe top elisa's here and there. That's great the landlord. Still not going to respect you. The same way right rondo june. Assume that you don't know what you're doing because again have you gotten more reveals than chip hotline. Now japan still hiring agents on every transaction especially was always not walk an accident and they're paying people. I'm guessing a lot of money to do these. Why because they're getting their money back in the long run will end in a scenario triple is not anger rocard. Because it's the same thing they're hiring agents or brokers that the landlords then paying half the commission to well. That's the name so again. It any commercial real estate near residential real estate and tenants never pay the agent easy. Why is that short story or loss. Short shorts for a lawn to use the my answers really long and i have to. Change has short story log but The back you decades ago the the industry was people would listen the property and they wanna find tenants or buyers so they started offering commissions and then brokers started becoming some agents of those listening agents and so several states came together and said. Hey we we need to have representation on both sides going to court and only one side has an attorney era you can offer to pay commission to them to bring you a buyer or tenant but they can't be a saab agent of the listing agent. We can't have agents on one side. We don't know who's working for him. So they came up with the idea of buyer representation in today. i think it's like ninety five percent of every residential transaction. There's an agent on the buyer side commercial because commercials significantly more heart or more confusing and has additional challenges. Wow just bring someone of the game. That knows what they're talking about to protect you right and to to to know the game that this this isn't your bag. If this is your primary thing make sure you have somebody in your corner. what does it mean to have posture. What is we know. Pt posher right ergonomics. What is it gonna posture negotiation. What is that all right. So your ability to negotiate the most favorable terms taibbi you having posture posture means that you are not at the mercy of one landlord or one property in order to create posher. You've gotta have options and you gotta have a game plan you can execute you start having posture by hiring an agent. That's going to represent your interests exclusively. You don't ask the listing agent to help give you information you don't you. Don't run around by yourself. You start by hiring expert. What that communicates away that you're serious located in the best possible your agents if you're ages of professional and they're an expert they're not gonna let you get taken advantage of. They're not gonna accept an inferior deal. So posture starts with having an age. Represents your entrance that agent that communicates your position and then the next element of it is that you have to have multiple options. And how do you do that. You negotiate with multiple landlords multiple sellers residential real estate vote. They're look at houses either online or in person you find out how you submit an offer that house. It's a binding counter if the if the seller says yes new signing year locked and loaded in. You're under contract in commercial. Unico goshi eight with non-binding letters of intent or offer proposals. You can trade paper and go back and forth and commercial real estate with three or four landlord simultaneously and in doing so. What you're communicating is that. Hey i i'm not gonna assume that what you're offering me makes any sense or even even remotely compelling. I'm going to go to the market in a do so. I'm going to become a market expert now. The doctor should be wasting their time doing this. They should hire agent to do it for them. But at age then takes what could have been thirty or forty properties. Wills it out of the top seven ray you look at the top saverin menu negotiate on three or four properties simultaneously. And then all the sudden you know you know to get a bad deal if someone gives you an offer and it's bogus or hey maybe it's got a decent leash rate but the ten improvement allowance and free wrapped packages no closer what it should be you. Now have the ability to say. That's not a market transaction. How do i know. It's now market. Because i got three other properties that are willing to do. Abc and so that gives you what we call posher that gives you leverage if you are tied to one property only or if you don't have the ability to measure one bill against other deal you have no posher you have no leverage that puts you in the place where you are literally begging or bartering. Would you please give me a better deal. And it's most you'll think negotiating is no matter. What price they give you you. Just ask for less. No matter how many concessions they offer you you ask for more in landlords know when that's a bluff and when you do that people well it can't hurt to ask it actually can hurt you because it shows you know. You don't have a clue what you're doing. And their words nine and if they would have given you a better leash rape or more concessions they actually will will give you much less. They'll they'll say you know what i know what they're doing. They're not really serious. It probably have other options. And until. I'm convinced they have a posture. They have the leverage. I'm not going to push his ours. I would to make this deal as somebody else. They in the day out. It's just funny. Because like i could see where you know. Someone like yourself would slide right into industry because healthcare providers are typically altruistic. And they're typically just like yes. I'm here to help people and this. This space looks great. I can pick your patients in it. So yeah yeah. Yeah you seem like a nice guy Signed the papers. This seems like a good deal then everything we talked about the front end of the show. Which is now you're paying for that mistake for years and years and years to come because you sign him dotted line. Yup yeah i mean it's really important to understand to a lot of landlords are very savvy. They're not gonna come up. And just punch you in the face and tell you i hate you. I'm gonna take advantage of you a lot of times. They're very respectful very cordial bill. Offer to get you inside the space sitting listening brokers can get you brochures. Can i get you in touch with an architect We could help design the space for it and they start offering these services that are valid. But they're doing it so that you drop your guard you start to trust and then and then you start to go shooting the hit you with you know what i would love to do that. But we've never done that for a of before or you know we we've never gone this low or we just at least at this term or these terms these offers and we can't go below that because it's market now the last determines the market so we can't go below this lease rate we can't give you more and it's this compelling pitch of. Hey i'm trying to be your friend. I'm trying to help you make the deal. But what the doctor does realize that listing agent has fiduciary obligation to have a legal obligation to help the. The landlord achieved the most favorable terms. So they can do it to your face and be super nice super respectful and accommodating but they have a legal obligation where they're licensed tied to it because of their contract with the landlord or cellar where they have to work only behalf the reseller to help that landlord or seller maximize their profitability in in doing so the doctor. There's a time money when you don't know happening. Yeah go into this. Go into this proceeding knowing what you're knowing what you're talking about and for me. It seems like the easiest way to do that is to pick someone along with you. Who's into the situation before carlo. Would you suggest in terms of In terms of financial education resources things that things that you would push healthcare providers Towards to educate themselves better in terms of real estate maneuvers. The best thing you can do. And i know it sounds like a broken record or my song plug. But you've got a higher experts that understand that understand the industry you've got to hire somebody and so let's break this down. First of all you got to hire someone that does commercial real saying that residential real estate. There is a difference. So it's real estate. Is there a difference between types of therapy is emotional. Therapy different than physical. Therapy is is an autism center brain bounce different than than occupational therapy with all therapy now. There's a big difference. Some says why you know. I need to get my hip replaced. Is that an orthopedic surgeon. Or is that a psychotherapist. Like there's a difference so just because it's real estate doesn't mean that the person's qualified start with someone who does commercials say number one number to find someone who understands the healthcare industry again. A restaurant has very different needs than a physical therapist. Were a veterinarian in there are nuances that are worth understanding. Next thing is you've got a higher in agent that's not gonna work for a competing landlord or seller. That has no conflict of interest. What i mean by this is it's really common to drive around so i don't know anybody so you just call sign. Yeah this guy's got assigned here. I'm gonna call this broker. The problem is if any broker that you are talking to has a listing or works for louder seller in the area that you're looking for their disqualified because you can't go to the market now and look at your target area with your requirement and have an unbiased opinion if an age is representing you and they also work for a competing lammert of a property that you might consider in the area who are they going to represent on that property so maybe three properties they can give you an unbiased opinion but what about the fourth and the fifth where they work for the louder seller and that's really common people call on a property is not a fit that rubber salt representing them but they also were for another landlord the area. You gotta have no conflicts of interest. If you're going to court you don't ask the other person's attorney to give you advice. You just realize hey stunt one more time because i think that frames it in the best possible light. Which is if you're going to court. You don't ask the other person's attorney for legal advice. Exactly the irs has. Hey we're going to perform an audit on you personally professionally you sit down with auditor. And say hey. What are your thoughts on this. No you get a cpa tax attorney to the table. And then they're going to say no this is that's not right or that's not true. Hey i don't care what they're saying that was filed properly and then they protect you but you gotta have a game itself. Commercial real estate understands healthcare and then no conflicts of interest. That's you start with that right there. And then that person tells you the market tells you what's available. They can tell you if you wanted to ever ownership versus leasing they can run a detail. Purchase versus analysis. They can make can talk about the tax. Deductions you're going to get with depreciation if you own the mortgage interest right off. They're gonna talk about appreciation the value of the building increasing over time. We can talk about principal. Pay down how every month you stroke at check your networking the off by several thousand per month and then they can also compare that to saint. I know ownership sounds great. But here's why leasing can make sense more flexibility A big a big bill that allows maybe landlord were paid for your entire bill out and give you enough free rent offset all you're moving us your your act mukasey down dramatically. We could put maintenance of the space or the hvac the landlord in remove that liability from you or whatever whatever the situation so there's pros and cons of leasing pros and cons of ownership and the bottom line is you can spend thirty forty hours your time trying to figure it out or you can hire someone who has already for eleven and you're gonna get a education that's tasks better like the that's another big one to you don't you don't transfer all authority to a real estate agent and to say well you just do it then you sign it for me. The agents job is to educate you inform along the way if somebody comes in a has an issue. The third is hey listen. Here's the cause of the issue. Here's how we're gonna fix it. Here's the game plan. Here's how it goes shoulder to shoulder with you for the next several months and make sure that it gets done right. They don't just say. Hey i'm not gonna tell you what's going on. Just trust me. i'm gonna fix it for like you inform them of what's happening. What's the progress they make decisions. What are you feeling. Is this work. It is not working in you collaborate. It's the same thing with real estate. Wow i mean i'm going to ask like. Is there reason you shouldn't do it. But i don't think i'm gonna ask that question. I i'm biased. Yeah okay but you. This is your. This is your giving me the the rules of the game. I've never played in saying you could do it yourself but you could spend forty hours trying to figure out those rules and by the way you might miss one thing that even though you read you read what you're supposed to read. You would've missed it the way that's change doesn't apply in this situation. You say okay. So i've been doing real estate now for almost twenty years in some capacity. I personally done well over thousand transactions. I have been involved in thousands of other transactions with we have people in forty plus state. So i've seen a seen a lot of commercial real estate transactions and. I'm asking that area. If i was gonna do something in multi family with apartments i would hire a multifamily specialist help me. I've i've bought so multiple houses. When i sell my personal residents. You know. i'm a real estate expert. I always higher residential agents represent me. Lie 'cause they know the industry. Even though i'm qualified to have a license and i'm supposed an expert in real estate. It's not the area that i specialize in every time that i've hired a residential agent to sal house for me. They've sold it for hundred hundred fifty thousand dollars more than i would've got myself. I did it. And so in that case as a as a seller i actually pay commission to them but was my net pay them a fee and i i still walked away with significant increase and healthy provider. You're not cutting a check of your tanner or buyer. And you're going to benefit my substantial amount of money. There's just differences you. You highlight in those. 'cause i mean yeah i would have thought. There are some differences between commercial and And residential but. Yeah i mean if a if a pediatric patient walks into a A sports clinic. I don't is that in their bag. Or should they be referring. This is a great example. All right so people are listening right. Now they're notting along. What's one or two questions that someone can ask if they go to someone like colin or you're trying to figure. Hey who am. I going to work best. With what are some things. They should ask them off the bat to figure out which professional they should work with. So you should probably the tell on their website whether commercial or residential. If that's how you got there great if you don't go to the website you can ask them you know i. E commercial or residential. The next thing is how many healthcare transactions are you involved with on annual basis. Does your company specialize in healthcare. And then the next one is Do you have any references. Can you send me some referrals. If the person's yeah. I do. I a couple dozen healthcare transactions per year. It's all we do. Here's the last twenty doctors that we've worked with. That's a phenomenal way to do it. If that person doesn't exist in your market then you try to find the most qualified person at the end of the day. There's too much on the line not to hire someone and then because of that. You gotta make sure you're comfortable so people say what am i. Talk to an agent or broker. I'm not comfortable than paul. Somebody else go to the next person and in for me going back to your other question whether it's my company or people that are in our company are not usually somebody. It's kind of like saying. I listen if you need to have a tooth removed. If you don't wanna go to this dentist go to some dances. I think any deaths would say like. I'm not your dentist and you remove the tooth. Go to somebody. Like i showed you how to remove the tooth with iraq. It's and you know that it was an ice. Skate is is is ice skate. Exactly that's right. You can do that. You will probably remove your tooth but there's probably a better way to do it so if it's not our company car go to somebody but you need to find someone who can help you the process mark given the website. What's your website where people go if they want to. Just ask you a question or two Website is car dot. Us c. a. r. dot. Us hand corner. There's a couple lanes you can play find an agent and you can go to your city or market. Find someone who all they do. Healthcare attendant by wrap you could also click on a free evaluation. You're in a space and you want to know how terms compared to the market will do a detailed lease analysis for you and we can tell you have a really good lease. You have an average lease or you have a really badly also tell you what your upside is on your next transaction. We can do purchase versus analysis. And we can also tell you what the right time to start. Your next transaction would be huge mistake. Doctors make is they try to start at too early. Which you can't create laboratory pasha then renegotiating you mean or renewing renegotiating renewing or a new transaction. Renegotiate released two years in advance. There's no fear of you leading the space the obligated. They're not gonna come to the table with a good deal. Hey i want the. I'm gonna rent your vacation rental that's available. I want to write your rental house. That's available right now that you're sitting on it's empty that you're waiting for someone occupied and would you hold it for me for a year and a half. You're like no of course not you come to the table. Two years early on a lease renewal negotiation artists. Say i have no fear of losing you. You have to pay rent for two years now. I'm not going to voluntarily reduce your leash rate. Flipside is doctors that wait until at least To millennia knows. Hey it's clear you're not paying attention. It's clear you have no idea what's happening. And you're asleep at the wheel so now it's if you get if you're serious you would start started the transaction. At the right time you would have had an agent representing you in. You'd be telling me what terms you'd accept that's another that's another big mistake. Doctors may doctors will save the landlord. Won't you send me a proposal. What that says is. I have no clue what i'm doing. All right. get if you were to go buy something and you walked up to the person sally and said hey. What are you song. Just what is it worth. If you done your research you really knew what was out there and you could walk up. And say hey. Listen you're selling. You're selling this this product of the circus. I know three other people are selling the exact same product. And they're selling it for this much. You have a benchmark you have a measuring stick at this point that dealer that option after for you ask lammert seventy proposal that says i have no clue what i'm doing telling the landlord. This is what it would take for me to stay in your property. This is what it would take for you to be competitive against the other options. Already teed up ready to go and when you come to the table that way that says this person's not playing games. I'm gonna cut to the quick. I'm gonna give the best terms. I get pretty damn close and i'm gonna make a deal but this person is not going to play for the full. They're gonna they're gonna require a real deal lose me. Yep that's it near to play. I'm not a sucker. Wow this a lot. I didn't think any of these things. I own my own clinic but like wow. There's a lot of things going on that. i don't. I don't think i would. I would have thought of c. a. r. dot. Us that is the website we want to send send you to. I'm going to keep you my hip pocket. Okay i've got people that come to me and tell me and the cool part about twenty twenty s crazy as it is. A lot of people are actually opening their own clinics and going out on their own. Good time to do that. So a lot of people if you're listening out there. Listen he's got some. He's got some resources for you to look at that are completely free tested out and then if you can find a counter argument everything collins said i would love to hear it Because i don't i don't really. I can't envision anything. I didn't ask anything that you typically let healthcare providers know that i didn't get into i mean there's a tiny cover. Let me let me lead with a few. Just points number one. You mentioned a lot of people. Right now are opening locations. That's a transaction needed help with the number one transaction though it all commercial real estate is the lease renewal negotiation every new location. You see a doctor go into new space getting dealt out. There's probably twenty to thirty doctors renew leases. So don't think it's just for a new office or if you're gonna go by billing if you have a lease in his coming up for renegotiation that's actually the number one transaction were doctors get taken advantage of because the the initial transaction is now ending. Just because you're still in that facility doesn't mean you need to just say okay well. Whatever you're gonna offer me. I'll just i'll just take that as your transaction is what you're getting and it's a brand new negotiation and that landlord needs to compete for your business. It's the exact same thing in. Here's a guinness of the very basic hand gesture picture by every off. Every release has an annual increase. So you sign a five or seven. Tenure lease starts here bombs up every year three percent two percent facts that whatever it is well in their the reason that at least has had this is because of inflation inflation here but it doesn't usually match the increases. They use the alpes. So you get to the end of the lease in. You're paying this but the markets here and so it's very common to have the radio down yet. Every lease you're gonna ever see isn't to say that the rat goes up if you're in a five year lease it'll be three percent about the fifth year during the ceremonies. It'll be a dollar square foot higher than your seven. You're always assuming the go up and never come back down. And that's not the case. Go up and down you get you see oil like the price of gas. I drove by celia dollar ninety. Today it was four fifty several years ago. So you kid assume this because you sign a lease and you might say well. I love the property. I don't wanna move. That doesn't mean that. You're not going to negotiate. That doesn't mean you're gonna show the landlord your cars and just take whatever offer they give you. If you as the cost you a significant amount of money. So i would say that in the mossy say is people are asking right. Now you know kobe's here it's real. There's some states seem like it's normal some states the end of the world. What's going on. This will tell you you can get a better deal today than you could have prior to comb at happening. And in january february of this year why because landlords are more concerned about spaces coming bacon in the near future with with tenants that go out of business with tennis decide. I don't need this my space or my my staff can work from home now or we're going to reduce locations and try to get leaning overhead because they got pounded the last eight or nine months. So you got a lotta That are very concerned about upcoming vacancies. In so if you have a least coming up for renewal you're going to get a better deal if it's done properly now than you would have back in february january if you're doing a new location landlords or more aggressive to make deals and to get bacon spaces filled today than they were separate or nine months ago. It's a software market than it was prior. I'm not saying it's a. It's a fifty percent off sale. It's not like hey. This building cost a million to you can buy for you. Know six hundred thousand. That's not what i'm saying. But if a if a space was released at twenty five dollars a square foot it's very loosely. You could get it for twenty-three fifty or twenty three or maybe get a couple extra months or free rides where maybe get a higher ten improvement allowance or the landlord might flex a little bit in some other non economic areas. Maybe we'll give you a better sign or more parking or whatever it is that's important the bottom line is they wanna make deals landlords. Do not want face right now. They're very concerned that the market should keep going down. We're gonna lose more tenants and that's how they pay their bills. It's no different than the doctor. Say i don't wanna lose patients right now. Probably not the time to raise raise fees for a lot of practices right now. Maybe it is. I don't know. I'm saying as a whole probably not the best time to try to raise raise fees may be some patients somewhere else. You wanna maintain as many patients as you can right now. You want to grow the practice. They wanna maintain occupancy. They wanna fill vacancies and they're willing to stretch those deals. Wow good advice. Replay three questions free question right now. Three questions brought to you by our friends at rs medical staffing fun online at a. Us medical college three questions. We get inside your mind here. So aureus leaders and travel physical therapy. Clinicians ruben about the country to do what they do Where they want to do it. So lynn colorado but once it safe and free to move about the country where somewhere within the fifty. Us that you wouldn't mind going travel wise or living Let's could travel. What's i'm gonna go spend ten days in. Mali and i'm going to hang on the beach. Yup and few months later on my spend a few days in dana point on the ocean there in the summertime. I'm gonna go see my parents in northern michigan and spent some time on lake michigan. Going on here. There's a water happening. Art water lobbying. The water last time of the family by the lake. I'm right with you and the cool part about all those places that you mentioned. They have people in them and were. There are people need physical therapists. And that's when you do with our is so a you are a us. Medical dot com. You're talking about Each on the big island We had a coconut mail to us from our friend. james spencer. You can actually male coconut. You can just put stamps on a coconut. Never knew we've mailed many surfboards nap balls. We've mailed cookies in the shape of a pineapple all sorts of stuff to take your questions. The what question. What something that you think. The audience we gain value from a book movie podcast. You're into man. That's that's a great question. When i would say it would fitness little bit but i. I think that the game plan in life is you've got to get around successful people that know more than you do in areas that you're not as talented or as good as they are. So you've gotta find a way to get the right association. You gotta find a way to get people that are further than you. When it comes to financial planning comes from investing you got people that are that are further than you are when it comes to public speaking her growing your practice or whatever area that you wanna focus on so for me. It's it's fine. People that are the most qualified the most talented that you respect and admire and then get around them. If it's getting through podcast great if you can get a chance to get with them one on one. That's amazing but if you can't books podcasts. Live cast leader blog. Whatever it is get around people are third. Question is who i'm gonna make you answer. Answer some specific. Who is someone the audience should know more about. Who is someone that you did what you just said which is like hey pay attention to this follow. Listen read appreciate. It doesn't therapy related at all. I just love stack it up my my twitter feed him a netflix queue. By asking this question who someone that you look at look at that way. Oh man you you might stop me on that one personally. I look at people. Like i want up. Funny a lot of people like right people. Ted talk who you might have no idea who they are and then someone like me for pops up like guy roz who host ted radio hour on npr but also he hosts a million other shows. But who who pops up. Who who someone you look up to you. Oh man in the business world yeah. We'll go got a couple. People that have helped me tremendously in the business world than i think are pretty much under the radar key guy paul mellon that has been a tremendous help to me. He he built. You've built by ten fifteen companies. He built a huge aerospace engineering company. From scratch up to several hundred million dollars he actually. He actually has a handful of teachers out there in the business days so i don't know if he has a twitter feed. I don't know if he's looking for exactly what you just said. I usually say to people who's flying under the radar. Doing amazing stuff that you know what someone should throw him a follow or if they don't have a twitter go go read their blogger. Listen to their podcasts. Apologize let me give this tip. This is one of the greatest things. I'll give you what he's told me. It's transformed everything in my life. He talks about what's in your hand and what's in your heart and he talks about how every person has something that's in their hand. It's what they do on a daily basis and a lot of times it's it might not be that exciting it might be the mundane that might be the average might be the insignificant and yet every person has this thing also. It's so lofty. It's in their heart. Is their business dream. And the problem is most people try to go from. What's in their hand and they just try to lead to what's in their heart and they don't take care of faithfully in stuart. What's in her hand. The the reality is that if you take care what's in your hand if you take care of a new new operate with excellent daily basis any and you do the things that no one else wants the deal. What you find is what's in your hand. All the sudden comes very close in all sudden. You find that the to connect with each other and you find yourself in a place where you're doing. What you love to do and a lot of people will will despise what's in their hand. It's too insignificant. It's not where i wanna be. And they try to go from from zero to one hundred thousand hour. You can't do that so people that i know that most successful take care of business stewart faith. What's in their hand. Do the south and no one else wants to do. And the more they do that. The the it's in their harbor their dreams or visions become very real opportunities for them in the to climb and it just so happens. All those overnight success in the world just happen to have thousands of overnights before they actually popped. That success got great advice. I like that That is three questions again. Brought to you by our friends at rs medical staffing that website you are. Us medical dot com last thing. Would you on the show. Colin is the parting shot party. Shut us always brought by me. Kademi of orthopedic physical therapy find him online at orthopedic ortho dot. Org leaders in orthopedic physical therapy lot of good things going on in the academy like current concepts of orthopedic physical therapy if you're thinking about getting that s on the end of your name right getting leveled up in terms of the orthopedic skills current concepts of orthopedic. Pt a great insure. Course prepping you for that exam when you take it. You feel confident that you know what you need to know right. It's an easy path to follow to get to that to help your patients all better so called parting shot. Where your chance for the mic. drop them. It's the last thing. I'm gonna leave with the so if you had to boil it down. Sonny's gave us a lot of information things that would probably as as healthcare providers. We're not thinking about but what's one thing you want to leave us with higher professionals that are better than you in every possible area aside a couple of times attorneys. Get a great attorney. Cba cpa marketing campaign. Get a great marketing company. Real estate. do the best you can and hire people that are better than new. You know when the water rise all the boats rise with it so get around people that are really good and they will take you to the next level. We say the same thing as clinicians right. Hey i see suffering with that. Whatever ails ya. I can help that. Hire a skilled professional. Why wouldn't you if you've got a gotta counterargument. I'd love to hear it. But i'm not seeing it. Count appreciate drop it by love. Love what you're sharing Like shedding a lot of light also scared me a little bit like wow how did i not see a lotta these things but whatever you're speaking i'm like that seems like it would be legit but Appreciate the insight. I know the audience too. So thanks for coming out man man thank you love the pt pine cast. Yes yes the port. The show by telling a friend or by leaving a review nineteen or google play all right shoulder they brought to you by the brooks institute of higher learning an innovator in providing advanced post professional education brooks. Ihl offering continuing education courses in numerous specialty areas six pt residency programs and fellowship as well as challenging but rewarding internships the h. l. specializes mma translation of information from evidence to patient management. Learn what they can do for you to support your professional development at brooks. Ihl dot org our home on the internet cast dot com created by build build. 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Special RHLSTPGF Deborah-Frances White and Siobhan McSweeney

Richard Herring's Leicester Square Theatre Podcast

1:10:48 hr | 1 year ago

Special RHLSTPGF Deborah-Frances White and Siobhan McSweeney

"Hello and welcome to another episode of dependencies especially one which is a match up with Deborah Francis White's guilty feminist was a lot of fun hope you will enjoy it Do come and support Robusta on tour guide Richard Herring Dot com slash gigs. He can find out where I'm going to be I'm a feminist Bart I asked Richard Herring to do the show when season when when I went on his show he asked me for Beta if the sex robot you were having sex with semantics language is important and this is like open university is it it is although to Paris many of these are soda already but in name down on the waiting list and checkout retain dot com slash gigs for all the wants that employed looked exactly like your husband would it be cheating and when I came into the crossover season for some reason I thought mm-hmm dwelling bureau was good real estate is expensive I'm kidding no he's absolutely lovely I'll have them if you don't want these they wouldn't be allowed so some of my listeners may not know that every international women's Day what's the most frequent question asked on twitter Ah Romance Anyway I mean at this point of marriage I think it's really good that either speaking to the other one we're still living in the in the world I would die feminism is for is that women also get sex robots feminism full sex road uh-huh are you are you a sex robot could be a sex robot if that makes it easier for you I'm a feminist but I'm curious that there will never be international men's Day serious about that uh-huh wedding anniversary that you've sent me up on a romantic evening with Richard Herring anywhere yeah but anyway this morning he made me scrambled eggs before I'd remember and when not Richard Herring is not essentially a feminist but I asked him to mash up my show with his brow mash up of course my wedding anniversary tonight and it is lovely to spending with Richard herring my husband organized the dates of these shows and he was like Oh that's when we're going to do the thing and sexual orientation there's no difference people don't prefer the oriented see this is going to be such a learning experience for you tonight that would be a good match just thought it'd be funny and then I walked feminist than women having sex robots nothing is the most feminist thing arena I read this is nice wedding anniversary should be about you provide a sexual fantasy for your partner here I am today November nineteenth could not possibly be done by one man and in fact the Richard Herring has a sort of sweatshop young Canadians sweatshop of young not so interesting because if what a robot Khandu is detect irony or sarcasm I'm not interested in having sex with them that's a big oh I think very industriously and really I think it's a really nice thing to do sits down on twitter and answers every single person who asks this my four year old daughter of football and I let her win even though I should have allowed to treat or equally and is this way this thing is the nineteenth and then offered us funny quips along with it I'm a feminist aunt for a long time I had a theory that answering every single person on twitter wins international of a gigs which will keep on going forever whenever you're listening to this are still going as long as I'm still alive my friend all right enjoy this it was a lot of fun to do it'd be like so you somewhere you know he's not getting all your work for you at the back there Munns joining in with the joke and so it's quite it's sorta hard Asian easy issues often look at a couple of people a lot because of the age differential not because of gender was four year old boy would also be tired of out of beaten in amount comedians and he's paying them under minimum way to do this and a little possibly thinks well I've I've never been asked cake here being sarcastic as sarcasm concerning I'm a feminist but actually when you rang me on to talk about today of what attracts me is someone being funny and sarcastic you're welcome they give my wedding anniversary is Richard Harris I do now but you like a lot of you got to discern a robot can't do this you can do a lot of things that a robot discern when someone's being sarcastic and win Windsor Day at it's done in a cynical bitter way like this push day we don't get this day and every International Women's Day Richard Herring Very Erin Square if my son especially by my son is a fucking Dick I mean if it comes it comes if it comes to prefer if I'd I'd much rather have two girls oh my goodness welcome to rigid herring lows sexist trolls prefers guilty feminists workout the one with the decades of the day it has to be me people sent me like people trying to only can do this this brought up and answered that x Ray Button well no date he said he's a Dick because he's too oreos he's not a Dick he's got dick like qualities because he's too and you should not beat so the question would be what I'm doing but not quite as early as May your able to tell whether someone's joining in whether someone's being pedantic someone doesn't beaten Kosslick I'm babbling actually football child how am I believed in my house for two years there's been three gas incidence of caused us to be evacuated from the house none of them to do with my bottom now is the amazing thing very funny podcasts don't listen to it because I reveal too much because they got me drunk but I did but rich said his house you'd had a gas yet again ah I mean you're very brave man in Saudi but snow we raising our children I was hanging out with the suffragettes the other day that a lot of work to get women to vote and only a century later oh smash the door luckily missy Mij- and snow and smashed the gas main and so we evacuate it's Bradley so I wouldn't understand understand why anyone at genuinely would prefer one child to another except when one of them's addict it was on it and then he sent me flowers but to be fair he went and got him at the door and then it turned out half of them were released which we're going to get our cats and he does in the Bin Somehow so fast asleep didn't hear anything until my doorbell rang my doorbell rang repeatedly in ten thirty at night which is weird I live in a little village in nothing happens so we've had two cases of carbon monoxide poisoning yeah which we luckily had a carbon monoxide carbon monoxide get a carbon monoxide and lost oh someone knows and doesn't know you can use it in America wakes up then that's when when life gets busy when the when the variety if she can really kickable contracts you can bend it like Beckham shaped your daughters already a feminist yeah my my wife is you know there was a imminent gas explosion where we're going to go look for the basket to put the cat in yeah and all die or we're gonNA leave the Cat Newark probably survive gas explosion is the and then I was haunted by why does gas hate me so much I'm produce a lot of carbon dioxide for gas methane gas I'm a fan of it could have a dual function of having sexually and saying November nineteenth which will be confusing it wasn't of the night it's November that I d I get off on that football at the full intensity of you game okay do we found my doors better football than I am I'm just using it as an excuse she's she's really good Shane Yeah I'm not very good at sport he's very hot on this is too because I'm a feminist I think women should be treated as if they're equal it was for else avenue is just a bonus as long as it's not the gets sex rover regard their gender or sexual preference democracy has been fucked up by Boris Johnson so it's fine they gave up all that in order for Boris Johnson Davar but anyway they call it Kaffa that's the only thing anything that you might you decide it shouldn't be gender-based should not and to be the same I don't want to be one of those DADS as a father daughter upsets me when we've been get treated just as a human being at upsets me yes I consume oxygen regulate you've done your bit forgot how I don't know what gas is trying to kill me that's the third time is trying to kill me in two years it's not snyder went to bed early so I could be well prepared to be to be like ooh on this and I was fast asleep it takes more effort to come here on a Saturday you've given me Saturday night up on the way you could have just gone the justice sorry Mrs to both online and this mom is a one she's been on one of my Gosh Virgin did you hear me on riches was fantastic it's not my fault you're the only interested in now got an idiot and advise on the race okay first of all that's an ablest word and secondly he's too you cannot call him in on his own in the in the actually you're outside the vent so you just you don't know who I am everyone else in this room knows who I am Oh no love remember me I talked about being adopted I think we talked about being adopted talked about being a Jehovah's witness in you usually do off the chip and someone had crashed kind to the garage next door to mine which is just on the high street which was quite difficult because you'd have to the road to do it yeah smash the whole okay have you been back such an idiot my cat so he's a fool and he's got eleven lives at least so the need to win you over what's your name changes okay by the end of the evening James I want you to be a listener it's all I want is a fairly typical history sir that would upsetting I'm just give us a chair if you listen to really Hispanic gives event diagram between me and rich okay great so you're the only one I know you're not only listen to him listens to me he says if you just both gay if only one only one is the only one is really history ladies and Gentlemen Welcome to kings place pays welcome a man and the woman who are looking forward to a match up it's Richard Arrington differences why that is a bit too handsome and his wife or girlfriend so that makes him exceptional Eddie of my male listeners in here will be quite surprised way too from the house because they thought there could be a gas explosion which let's say you go and say we had to take my family my kids my dog left the cat behind exceed the women exist just I don't think that's true I think it is well they exist they just never interact with them one man who's thinking who she heard about it doesn't take much effort as to who podcast this before we continue is there another james reveal yourself if you're James James Gas go to James J Yeah Jamie are you bid you know we're not interested you're clean shave clean-shaven Jamie are you in any way in the digital world we're not going to believe that these are the James's so good I think there are any other James why did you leave the portal survivor in ice he's he's survived much more than and also how'd you take a cat out of the house we have to go would we add yeah I was thinking about my family could have been blown up which was quite upsetting what I'm very glad that you're not dead if I'm tired half or anything else lots of people bought daily. It life over the phone because there's a little bit guilty I accept James Yeah so to the Unisex dependents to hear what women sound like me couple get us our guest today our guest today is thank God you can do the that's my that's my bit by bit that really was a small bit was now so much podcast with you it was called do the right thing anybody else just before we continue call James just release gives the names James K you are another bearded man in the second row are you also Komo News ones may not have come out of fear in front of the most just give us a chair if you listen rich and you're in software developmental similar what's he like his demographic is changing what's your name will be best known for playing nurse to in Emmerdale he's welcome Cheval McSweeney okay I'm GonNa need can we get hasluck stop because I think people are going to believe this can the three James is just stunned up turn Iraq leading cult lead your coat I mean I feel like I'm in the center of an hour that's what the cuddly as then it you do up to my podcast is giving these guys a self confidence understanding shoes yeah hasn't been good for me labs so we're hoping for the nurse snow yet no I wasn't I wasn't hospital and I today there's a lot of Jane James J back nurse cheaper metal fanzine made my survive but anyway we had to stand up the road for half an hour until a man came out with a kid sweep let's go back in there yeah so we sent it so it was okay all right I've got woken up when I was are you more of a guilty feminist founder histopathology am I saying it incorrectly here I am so sorry said no no she's she's not with us now I'm a seminar bus no one's dead solidarity good okay brilliant nurses to not one to the sequel this time it's personal remember any mark Levin Mark Chaunac was a lovely guy and it was the problem nurse a good idea like idea Richard Harris and Deborah Front that's what we should for fluid on interest okay he does he does well actually three only on that day the other guest not the other person was the problem right he was loose referring to me you know I'm done with that you can do you now oh God I've been backstage listening to this who the faulk thought that this we tried to start your own cock I mean you can answer yes but in this Edinburgh I came up with one that is recently for persons who have vaginas excellent I'll fucking mind tanking us because I am Imax questions are available to everyone so I'm not even GonNa list what is just in case I say it wrong except for one question about being was one episode was there was one episode of Emmerdale to come back things of dried up he predicted a riot that this person and there certainly was a sort of a riot wasn't a laugh riot anyway do you remember what aw no no no I'm just I'm referring to me a little bit yeah I'm just checking just joined should be quiet now I'm the problem this to interesting okay I'll ask you to merge the question if you're feeling hot I would just say don't put anything in your vaginas even the things that you think might be all right up there don't none of it's very nice well there are some what are you all doing in here house Marlon Marlon Dignity podcastone becomes a count your audience is very cultured is say something to my audience shop that's like being an account just replace your wouldn't tell me to grab a visa no choice is very nicely doc which is for men only really yes people with penises only kids how do I say well we don't equate masculinity with people yeah there's a lot of news stories over the summer about women putting things in their vaginas shouldn't Britain average I slowly there was a new to begin with isolates don't put ice lollies in your vagina kessel coming up this week and then the London Gigs Start Tim Minchin Charlie Brooker Robin in Sara Pascoe Open shots Oh fuck knows east he was on my on my squad scenery but he's just depending when this is a very how's he doing God I felt like I practice that because last time you teach as well do you think we both used to be Jehovah's Witnesses if we've mentioned it but do you think we've both re I feel like the question which rather have a handmade Adam or equality handmade I've got question yes it goes without saying Schivonne and rich that all three of us have read the man away and so to be fair obviously you should never put an Ice Lolly in your vagina laziness but if you had to that's good ribbed for somebody say this round Denia that probably which is slowly would you put in your Vagina Feminine Does Fuck that's why I said Oh and all yes sorry sorry we don't need to go into a foolish was happy I'm trying to say I'm not going to ask no nothing whilst situation front of real history it yeah so there's another do you know this James to any of the James's know each other taste Dave's said you'll basically the same mom just one row back have you come here with Parnell he's no says yeah this is a horrible thing since he should be hidden away what about Rapid Roberts yeah those is yeah of all the that's the end of that discussion but don't don't do if anyone listening your home don't it's not it's not good for you okay the robotic things hate me it's okay to have sex with a robot is as long as just break that often throw the rest seven-day yeah that's probably not bad if you put it up cone I don't think you know what did I say the Cornet Oh yeah oh often in their gold limousines and live in Intel's this again let's say together we could rule the world go teach me teach me how to say it I'm so sorry I feel so bad so you'll knows but as I do that it's been described as a classic of feminist thought the dialectic of sex the case for the revolution in nineteen seventy by radical feminists shit with firestone twenty-five well nearly twenty six Christian rich if you were sleeping with sex Robo cops would you program her software with the principles of feminism man sexism also exists in the Animal Kingdom of course the goal of the feminist revolution must be not just the eliminate well this is your lucky night she understood she had the right to consent and from then on would almost certainly rejection advanced making her existence void even if you've paid a lot of money for dead there's a good chance that the sex robots will kill the people having sex with you because you can you can hack them and all sorts of things but also maybe they'll gain consciousness and killed would you rather have your own fist punch in the face if you were ever to say do anything or even think anything that was on feminist of male privilege but if the sex distinction itself would you agree with that I mean rich nice throw to you what are you doing to reduce gender differences so they no longer have widespread cultural significance and a for me when I was single mom seduction was always the and consent was also the thing that just was exciting and amazed me yeah well most people think most suffragettes at the time and and suffrage at scholars think that she didn't mean to cheat she meant she was trying to CBS rich would you rather have a miniature suffragette attached to your shoulder as a second head all are you doing to reduce the cultural significance of gender differences in your daily life what he doing mainly ice lolly questions this is a caveat the miniature suffragette doesn't know women have the vote so she keeps going on saying I keep expanding yeah is it interesting questions robot sex thing is a very interesting question over overall someone was saying today in the paper today then the question about nuns in a minute for me in original sex robots suffer jets pretty cool yeah yeah I just throw stuff in front of a horse while she's attached to me yeah we have votes for women women can vote and she won't hear that so that's annoying but also the fist which sentient punch that's the excitement so maybe that could happen so I mean also you asked me if it's your idea this you don't know why it's not on feminist but ECON explain sort of like Deborah Francis White in fistful sexiest character I've played add hello good night James Hello Josephine on late review in fairness I do think apart from nurse to she is without I'm serious she is without a doubt I think the anything who's looking good James Spencer Really Nice though that excited you was that someone wanted to yeah because I just had very low self esteem I stand up it's really liberation to play that especially as an actress you're always like you are always playing second fiddle to it doesn't make it better word from Ballerina deserves look at her obviously I don't think she is Bush when I'm playing her the idea of being dot com and not giving a fuck and just walk into every eh so becoming one of the only professions women could pursue before accessible birth control it gave them autonomy a career in many cases allowed them to be educated and become an does that in a way does not diminish the distinction when you focus on China's and penis or widen the distortion which is our ooh and being that utterly tired avant to be alone you know except in a car accident wearing a habit I any of them Cole James Oh already James's Kane on dairy girls is your names are you one of the James He's wanted to sleep with me I liked wrong married to throw the Oh that's what we didn't ask how many people are not here for either because of Derry goes the way she's teaching them she's teaching them to think for themselves and they're really boring and annoying have you met Richard Ah System Chevron on your famous for playing not only knows to an imminent OPPA system Michael in Derry Goals uh-huh ship on your famous for places to Michael Endeavor Girls Yeah I'm famous for playing non which is exactly how I thought my life would awareness Carlson one of them Ashley goes what are we doing and she runs away that was my perfect impersonation and do many accents but that's a lovely some he's such a dick she does that she she sort of because it seems doesn't really believe in God like no no no leave it is actually it's showing that she's pushing back and showing showing that you want the girls to grow up to be able to think for themselves to be educated Loyd found the ones with the girlfriend yeah oh non feminist though in as much as the people she builds her power over a younger women and in fact that girls Yes yes because of course I'm the teacher of course when I say you've got to come in don't come in if Bill Clinton's here well at the end of the season Nash Push Catholic nun in the ninety s the feminist convert I like the newsletter that they put out in the school that she orleans you know how expensive the rents can be but also all over here there's an episode when she all the goals take the day off to go and see the second fiddle but yes she is a feminist character because she is a woman who knows her own mind and speaks it is to be independent because she's told goes they're not to go to see Bill Clinton they must come school and were only one go- comes to school and she says to her what does she say to her realized that they've disobeyed her they've July she's delighted that they've done that she's delighted when they show a backbone these girls and one fellow at a very pivotal age data have you found a coded or even feminism and playing system Michael you reading this just if I'm going to give a punchline if you're gonNA give a locker Oh yeah that come out looking for a way James I'm sorry Oh God three Mary's familiar lovely Dylan who is actually James's Ni Oh my God oh no for example sexy I'm while I'm doing it I mean you didn't help with the White Sox I've imagine sequester coarser and then she goes she she didn't do very well she got another imagine take all be told she said that you are absolutely not to go you want to go and then the two really ernest girls turn up yeah is it just one or two owner skills it was very dark boring time in Ireland so we just ought moving moving get a chip fan make a bit of money some sort of mass hysteria that was the thing that happened to that on top and in actually that would have been the yeah the issues late eighties and go balanced spittle and we were talking about combining the same day but completely different experiences I remember of course I wrestled my way to the front I was when I was small and I'm from Cork and I was brought any any car people here know there was the moving statues very devotes child and I wrestled my way to the front and of course of course I saw her move of course I move I was sear movie I feel bad you're Australian do you feel bad I just generally feel like feminism may be hasn't remember the I explain what I was saying sexist and thinking things I was thinking as well say for the suffrage it then Don spindle and we were all brought down there really we roll Broughton because the Statute Virgin Mary seem to be like so it was crazy it was it does well the Virgin Mary weeping Piss I know yeah he he literally could not believe that was on the half hour things have come don't know very interested in as brexit might have shown yeah yes or are it's wonderful that isn't a uh I suppose at what point did you become interested in like if it's been absent your entire life if you're not being taught about I don't know it's sort of like suddenly aw contesting and only until recently did I realize that we were talking about the same day I would say balance spittle and he'd go balance spittle but he's he's saying you know he hasn't seen all the scripts I think he was saying yeah you only see your own saints in any the boundaries push back for Irish TV for island ah some extraordinary series is so brilliant I have to say I was told me in every love his incredible the dad but Northern Ireland in the way that it could have a should have recently has due to the border it's like Brexit has made about the series is did you learn either remember or learn about Irish history very recent Irish history that people in the UK at side of that island Britain has got all yes and Northern Ireland. We're like faulk knew there was something I thought it was this idea you know about Northern Ireland and island in the history and how disgraceful that is honestly when I was watching it I felt a little bit like oh sorry it's an online show yeah and if you go and have a look if you just Google Sheboygan's name at the moment it'll come home and you speak very eloquently about why we cannot have a board happened I wasn't angling for an interview as some people have tried to say about me I was pointing out very snarky way as they had done a vox spy then brexit happened this nothing nothing no interest really boring series just skip forward to five that's really good then it picks up again cast change AH between the product violent Northern Ireland and about women's rights and all sorts of things and also about the lack of education that people in England and Wales especially we'll actually your piece on Joe it's a show called Joe Joe's an media outlet I suppose you'd call them the reporting mm-hmm yeah I mean I've gotten the course if you I mean it's it's gold trying to make this funny but like look the pen is moving chip fan and so I did bring a chip fund yeah remembers it as the day of the good ship put one of the girls says the only thing we can do now dealer something anything we can do now is pray for her what you know what now she's in there for the free accommodation which women and the women said yes of course and then the camera commotion the Women Said No we don't want to be filmed which is a very very understand that reaction myself John John about to us rich and other images this bit can be serious no it's like that the reason that outfits granny speaking reporting outfits poets in ten reporting it it's an online they're like no where we've been here the whole time which members yeah it is yeah it's just a load of truly that you don't know about yeah yeah just ordinary girls in extraordinary and I think he said this an injury anyway but I was just saying is stored situation and the terrible situation which what's and that's our secrets and I rang them up saying come on and they said well if we lend to view will you come on I will of course thinking I'll just get my mates in the Alliance for choice crowd that I had met while I was working there serve my brother remember says like he was just queuing up going off the smell of vinegar that's just just want chips on an eclectic province I will I am totally aware that I'm from Kark living in London and it's not my story and it's not my place breath as Michael Jordan dairy you're in dairy we're all like why haven't you stopped women and of course what was interesting was that they did stop load gotten us an interview ostensibly with me but I let you do the talking a bit like nice and they said not he'd already been in touch the report rich have you ever fancied a nun and if so was the habit part most or all of the appeal and acknowledging that make you feel check my parents somewhere in the middle going shutters advance locals say some dirty goes which is about you identify with those is really wrong maybe when the cameras came out and they were being asked to submit themselves that was something else entirely but anyway my whole point is to go out there and interview women the open submissions and you only get submissions for men how do you get women to submit themselves that sounded strong yeah we all watched us because ego another criticism my gosh is like well you know you don't study English history in Cork and I'm like well I pop on on the Peace Bridge Dairy and they'd just gotten a couple of young fellas one fellow with the dust pan it was the most adorable entry where you're going and that in a small town with big secrets Nancy gets caught up in a murder mystery that has no earthly explanation everyone loves the mystery but at that moment in time I wasn't able to sort of pass the microphone onto anybody else which was a lot of flack hours getting also another bit of flack that I was guessing I'm presuming being crew had already been in touch so it was just an interview with me so I guess I was delighted to speak because I think if I can do anything to shed a better life Shane reducing a woman to her outfit given already marginalized Position Society haven't numbs done do for me I anti drew lives for them Nancy drew the thrilling series premiere Wednesday after the season premiere of Riverdale only on the CW or stream Thursdays on the free mm-hmm what are you doing what are you doing here Oh look it's about time you learned pushback eleven she said that goes along you told me she's like no one else came update from the network that brought you riverdale the CW brings you the haunting new series. Nancy drew I didn't feel sexually arrest me it's all I can think Z. if you please communist advice there some of Vertu Catholocism you know what I'm saying Geez husband as well we do 'cause we're better and secondly secondly it's northern part of the UK this is part of your what you want as I said I was looking man I'm Mina Never GonNa get laid again I think I understand again I'm awkward under guilty feminist podcast she wanted us now fucking deal with that you can't go with our is now we're going to ignore it for ages test that we cannot have very vanilla sexually really the real me and I find I'll I the whole idea of dressing up yeah I feel quite embarrassed road after member that she's married Jesus now she's been in the other man before she gets to Jesus you ruined that none sleigh not anymore I mean this and the non was coming down the staircase and she slipped and I dived underneath and stuff too it's worth converting because of the falling numb free expert Stage Pasta Heaven that you've got now okay I'll do that or I just catch great I'd say and what point did you not think she just isn't going to be suspicious finest wines please yeah aw Jesus in already inhabitants already cooking chicken on where the poor needy I can. CWF I've got emergency is relevant surreal quarter falling them I won't say I was GonNa Habitat in Kings Molin Hammersmith bloke the frog can do it I can do thoughts disturb Fidel after Chanel with me how she put herself like a black dress it was to go with the outfit it wasn't going off piece but yes she was she bought loads of Bishop but only great quality staff very specific she bought some really amazing meringues rankings yeah was like a day out in Paris that are very elegantly like the bonds Tayo I'm having the dream I don't wish he stole the money from now but I think she was picked up hopefully the Vatican yeah yeah absolutely but I can sort of see pseudo seen it happens all the time in rehearsal you do something then somebody goes the reason that was funny is because the monarch Catholic and urinate b-best India come I suspect if you Catholic that would be a just a one time pass always been he could do whatever you like but I think stuff I feel embarrassed real none but some as well so the idea I meant to fancy way because she oh sofas here about nine France he just took off Nick Deloitte money and went on a massive spending spree love it yeah she actually went to period poverty was period drama like I was out there protesting going shutdown fagin dead the what was it non genetic the vows to come back up sanctuary now I saved I saved a non through cracking ahead open so this is the worst example of man's planning that you have in yes no no should have suits dress and then she went into one of those amazing French patisseries got herself but everything was really talked got it curtis and we supported the protest and now the law has been changed he was sort of you know once you can tell like a posh man sort of any half listening to you and said yeah but I think there's oh we thought everyone in Northern Ireland has frozen since the trouble then come animates it again took this time line two things happened the we were talking about feminism and stuff and I said that it really can work if you protest can work and I said here's an example is our period poverty Ambika George came to the feminists three an Eli firestone argues that sexual class system predates and runs deeper than any other form of oppression the ratification of six will require radical reordering of society a pair poverty is to start it was just not an issue understand why you'd be wasting time and it took me honestly twenty minutes to realize that he thought so what did you tell you because you thought maybe no not with these very sexy though the real ones are they when you get into heaven whatever you've done that is thank you see if you're Catholic though I'm not Catholic but they should be doesn't matter east calling on certain etcetera yeah must be lucky to catch a falling down thinks oh shoot it seemed that grateful I thought that you could important things impaired poverty I think he could use more relevant and this is not really an issue now and what it is an issue now to say well it's less issue because this but it's still an issue that people and he was like but again I know it's funny I had one the other day where I thought I was talking to a posh man in a POB talk instead shot work houses for as he really think pair because paired poverty is in the past by definition on if a tiny tim she went like that's I think that's how she got it that I have a question you mentioned in question one nine six what does man's planning mean actually I'll I'll take this I would let this yeah I'm sort of covered I could take away from Jesus the Jesus costume going shut the work houses I just couldn't believe it and I explained it was about menstruation backed away uh-huh money for tiny she would leave top bins he genuinely thought we were out there in eh that I never do that I just thought it was a nice nice link is very very good poker she was very excited it just makes it a men's eyes women at hormones but as an example of a man who is so stupid they get this electrical power that shoots out of their fingers and then the whole world changes because the biggest differentiation between men and women is that meant upper body strength it's is that women and women are forced forced to but we've been encouraged to teach around on stilts so at some point half the population device path for men in the world goes he takes his Sunglasses Oh oh and he's like flattered enough by this to completely open up and changes demeanor this but now these days we have shoes which arrived they have the ability to shoot bees is or have a pair of shoes that never needed to be cleaned or repaired so shoes very attractive clever woman but she just very mildly flirts with them right and she knows that she's there to kind of bring him down with an interview in suspicious of she I have the bees and I'll tell you why all of the bees shoes yeah 'cause clean-shaven spot there's a book called the Powell which is about women blamed duration he knows that he genuinely did 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How Did The Source Cover the 1992 Los Angeles Uprisings?

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How Did The Source Cover the 1992 Los Angeles Uprisings?

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Learn how to register your school at ny times dot com slash highschool access data rates apply. One of the New York Times podcast your choose your words carefully a music, news and criticism. I'm your host, John Monica. Things are. No better no better in the country no better and as you guys know. From last week wasn't quite sure had do pop gassed or what? We should do with that previous episode that we recorded before things really got out of hand. And thinking a lot about how I want to handle this week show it occurred to me that there are precedents for the current cultural and political moment and I was wondering. How did the magazines that I grew up reading? The source especially. What were they doing around the time of the Los Angeles uprisings and I'm very fortunate that to my Oh Jeez are Reggie Dennis and James Bernard who were top ranking editors at source during the early nineties. And have a lot of old source issues I have a lot of issues from nineteen ninety-two but I didn't have the key one, which is the August nineteen issue and I hit Reggie and I asked him if he had it, and he did each took pictures of what their coverage wasn't sent it to me and I got to read a very long piece by James. Out going to Los Angeles, riding around South Central Talking to regular folks, talking to political, talking to gang members, and really painting a picture of what the vandalism and looting, and also the political potential of that moment meant from a perspective that was radically different from how the mainstream news was covering Los, Angeles in that moment and then I realized. That's what I want podcast to be about this week I won't podcast to be about. How did the source cover that moment? What are the responsibilities of music related publications hip hop publications to rise to moments like the one. That, we are experiencing in our country right now. I'm very fortunate that James in Reggie agreed to come on and talk about that so this week. That's we're. GonNa get into the source. Nine, hundred, ninety, two, the Los Angeles Uprisings James Bernard here was a senior editor of the source James. What's good. Hey, doing good and. Listeners Know Reggie Dennis. He's been on podcast before Reggie? Was The music editor of the Source Reggie? What's good? To Be Back I. Want to talk about the decisions behind covering. The La Uprisings and what that meant for a magazine like the source in Nineteen, Ninety two. You know right from jump. Reggie was good enough to dig up this issue. This is the August one thousand nine hundred issue is too short cover, and it says L. A. Message behind the madness with a photo of burning store, but the thing that I want to point to first before we get into some of the specifics is what it says under the source, the magazine of Hip Hop Music Culture and politics and politics. At that time predating what happened in L. A., how much was politics? Part of what you guys envision. The source could should be doing and was doing well. I mean that was kind of baked into the DNA that source, so almost from the very beginning as far as I can remember. As soon as I started editing pieces, there were naturally included pieces that were you know social commentary politics in it. That kind of thing Reggie to what degree as a music editor? What were you seeing? That was happening hip hop at that time eighty, eight, eighty, nine, ninety, ninety, one, that sort of helped, set the table for magazine like the source to really go in on this and we should also caveat this by saying. Like rolling stone and Spin, obviously, you've been covering politics and social movements for a decade or two decades or more, so it's not that there's no precedent just wasn't a hip magazine prior to the source early engaging like that anyway, right? What about the music? Well, the coverage up until that point was very one sided in often negative towards hip hop, and towards the people involved rap with senior cause violence. It was an art. It was music and it was almost like an annoyance to the industry, but even back then it. It made so much money. People head to pay attention. But they typically held their noses and dealt with it now. Everyone is twenty two years old, and basically just getting out into the world, but at twenty two. What are your life experiences what you've seen and a lot of places where the music was being created, there were things going on. That would be covered in the music, and when we come in those records in the source out perspective. Wasn't that Oh my God? This is some alien experience this was. Something that was quite natural to us. So that's what set the source apart so as far down the field as the cultural commentary went in this music, we pretty much always agreed with it, which was so different from anything else that you could read you know. We didn't have a political agenda outside of promoting hip hop, emoting music, loading the free speech of hip hop, so you could listen to Slick Rick you listen nwea Nicholas. An is t you listen to light and all those disparate points. were embrace, so have a magazine called the magazine of Hip, Hop Music. Culture and politics meant that anything that came up was within our purview to cover the music grants you the umbrella to do the politics, and all the other stuff that that are in the pages, and it's interesting because I think you know when I look at the sort of see changes over the years of EPA publications. There's gotta been periods where politics was heavily embraced in periods where it was de emphasized. We're coming back into a period where it's being reemphasized, but would you guys are doing? Is You know you also decided to do real on the ground reportings so I'd love to kind of get in to James. What made you decide to get on a plane? So if from our tax yesterday radio saying you got on the plane the morning after the verdict, the Rodney King Verdict. If I'm not mistaken, I'm looking at the editorial that Chris. Chris Wilder wrote what was the decision process to get on the plane and go out there? Because I presume you went from New, York to La. And how was it taking in the building the choice to do that? I don't remember a lot of conversation about reg yet I. Don't remember a lot of conversation I. Remember that there were a couple people didn't get it at. I didn't understand that we may have a different kind of access. To people I think when you look at the article. There were people that I spoke with I. Don't think any other reporters talking into. Yeah, I mean look, this is an al quote some stuff later from your piece, but even in this editorial something that just very much struck me because it's relevant to how events like this have been covered over the years and are still covered sometimes, and this is again. This is Chris Wilder editorial. Mrs None of these publications had reporters whose relatives and friends were out there, grabbing TV's nine millimeters alongside everyone else. None of their stories were reported by people who don't be the cops as their friend, but instead fear and despise them on a daily basis, and you know for all the talk about journalism and the practice of journalism as sort of a neutral act, obviously people bring their life experiences to bear on how they approach the practice of journalism and walking into that situation with different perspective. You'RE GONNA. Come out with different material. Obviously, so the folks didn't get a reg I mean. We touched on this a little bit I. Think yesterday wasn't a hard sell or debris. Just like you don't get it and shrugging, you're GonNa have to accept that you don't get it. We. Learn about the verdict. That afternoon went home I turned on CNN something and Los Angeles was on fire so the next morning. I come into work. It's me and John Chapter yet. It on chief and founder and I'm like what are we going to do? What are we? HOW ARE WE GONNA? Cover this. This is insane. Now now mind you. We're monthly magazine. Whatever we do is not gonna hit the stands for six or seven weeks right? This is the. The August issue we end up in. Yeah, and the verdict is the twenty ninth of April so there's the chance that everyone in the world is going to cover this and possibly someone who's going to have perspective and John Schecter probably feeling that we would be laid on the story just felt that the mainstream media would do a competent job in covering it, and it really wouldn't be anything for us to add and I was totally appalled by that because. This was the reason why we made the magazine for something like this as music editor of the magazine I could've still fill those pages without talking about music at all. You know because that's how wide hip hop is so I wanted to see what James in particular would do because I figured James would be the guy to ride I didn't know that he would hop on a plane immediately I call James, because even in New York that night there were little skirmishes. Riots that looting. People were disobeying orders. A joke I call them at home, and I asked him you know. Did you get a television set last night? And you said what? What are you talking about and I'm like dude. Los Angeles has been burning all night long. Don't tell me you didn't see any of this. And of course you hadn't because you go to bed at eight o'clock. This is also is an instructive for our younger listeners. Pre Twitter. You know very early basic cable era, not loads of accessible news. News exactly. Tax My phone I didn't watch. TV At anywhere had cable by the time James got the office. He'd already booked his flight and that after noon I interviewed MC Ran I, had a phone with him and the next morning. I flew out to Oakland to interview too short, so we will all just gravitating towards the epicenter of the conflict, which no one else was really doing at that time because we're running towards it, everyone else's probably trying to maintain a safe distance and. You read some of James. In his story. He's heart of it because he's rolling with CRIP. Set the whole weekend, so the story just so people know and I I don't believe this is on the Internet anywhere I mean this is one of the many tragedies of this particular era of music, journalism and the source. Specifically a lot of this early stuff is just not aligned, but again reggie was good enough to take some photos of the pages for me. The story is called the L. A. rebellion message by the madness. It's about eight or nine pages and James when you book your plane ticket their cellphones, but this is not like an instantaneous connection moment. How did you decide or know how you would find entree into the story? And how did you ultimately gain entree into the story? We had networks on the ground when I got there I drove. Shrink to south. Central Greg Everett introduced me to little V. can you explain a little the just for I? Mean I've read the beast, but can you just explain where those networks really were I mean? He was a mid level CRIP. He's actually passed away. He got shot like two years after that, so yeah wasn't even through an artist. It was through people who knew the magazines I didn't see another recorder I. I don't think the whole time I was there I mean it seems like you're removing almost exclusively in spaces that reporters at mainstream organizations were scared to go into or were unaware of Outta. Go into or or whatnot, and as you were sort of gathering string and talking to people, people embrace the idea of talking to a reporter. Even a you know a black order from the source. was there skepticism at all or were people like finally? Someone is year won't stop to. Think! It was more like of course you here to talk to us. I mean I. Don't think that people would have been. Where's the source? But it seemed like a natural thing to be there. You know certainly I had a certain level of credibility with folks. I reread to article this morning, and it wasn't until the end when somebody's SORTA questioned my credentials, but people who vouched for me so I think people were happy to be listened to by somebody who was respectful and somebody who would sort of get the nuances because you know reading the Peace Now. It was a more I guess a word nuance situation than it looks like from the outside. Maybe now's an interesting time to talk about language so on the first page you talk very specifically about you say. This was no riot rebellion you making very specific I mean I think people still colloquially referred to these events as the. The LA riots, but you're making a choice here in the in the headline, and and in that statement, which is sex sexy. Seven paragraph you WanNa, talk about making that choice and why it's important to understand it through that lens as a rebellion. What's important is that some of the activity was conscious. People were as I write in the piece they were distorted doesn't hire people from the neighborhood distort? Does this doors black owned the stores black owned by hire people. This hotel is in a lyric, so you know we're not gonna hit that and everybody talked about its event being about social justice, not just about that one incident. You also have corky namic. Quoting Martin Luther King just FYI. For those who don't know gory namic was an actor who was the main character on a show called Parker. Lewis can't lose and he was also kind of one of those early nineties. White L., A. Actors who also tried to wrap. All read the source. Yeah, of course, not as a an issue later that year. You're out there dragging, but Bundy for rapping I'm sure he felt away about. Bad about that. Again I think. He's I think he's recovered I. Think are so when I look at this. I mean that's the reporting that people weren't getting. You know I think that people were thoughtful about what they were doing. We can sort of disagree with the whole idea of looting. That's fair, but at least in this instance people were making a statement about who they wanted. Wanted in their communities who they didn't want in their community and to me. That's a rebellion you know. Read one thing that you wrote in this light. This is for this is from your piece. In this light, the riots in quotes were really a very disciplined and spontaneous cry for economic empowerment in Italic. We know which businesses we wanted out of the community. Community at which stay, that's what you were hearing from people the message we want more black and Hispanic businesses, and we want businesses that respect us and give something back to the community, and there's one example that you underscore in a different section than the piece. Where as you mentioned before? There's sort of a row of buildings or rope stores, and it's kind. Kind of one has been attacked. One has been left. One has been attacked. One has been left, and you are asking why and they were the people you're with were articulating saying they were saying very specifically. This store has owners that don't hire from the community that stores black owned. It's editor at Cetera so this kind of coverage at this level of detail. was there any mainstream outlet whether it's a newspaper or or television news at the time? was anybody else getting this kind of granular detail? I don't think so in fact when I reread it. You know it's it's like nobody else was i. mean part of it was. Nobody thought to talk to remember when we started the source, people were saying that these this generation doesn't read. They would never read a magazine right so that's the Lens through which people were looking at only our. But these were our. This was our audience. So. Nobody's taking these folks seriously. And of course they're at opening up to people who they didn't think would get it and I'd like I said I didn't see any other reporters. All the coverage was about this thing being lawless and sort of random, and I don't know if what summer reporting about what's going on now. It seems like what happened in La at the time was really intelligent. There's an article that the times ran maybe two days ago. Talking about how things have changed in the last thirty years and one thing that is striking about this current set of protests and by extension, some of the things that are coming with the protests, which is vandalism and whatnot is that it's being very deliberately brought not to black neighborhoods. neighborhoods not it's being brought to a wealthier neighborhoods to white neighborhoods. It's in Soho it's in bucket and you know it's in Beverly Hills, not that there are not black people who live in those neighborhoods or who patronize US number it's, but there's a very deliberate choice to bring these messages outside of the Black and Brown communities into the face of white communities and something. That's really striking and that again strategic. Choice, and if something bad is going to happen, it will happen. They're not in the communities. You said that day you flew out to talk to too short so when you're out there. Did you feel my short story is also gotta be about this, did you? Does it come up in that story? And how much were you then making it of the? The part and parcel of when we interview artists now we're GONNA kinda get their opinions and thoughts on this I get to San Francisco and I'm taking the bus to the diva hotel and there's a detour war because something had happened and when they let me off by the hotel, there are a lot of police there, a lot of broken glass and This was two days later two days after the verdict and things was still going on. You know like eleven in the morning, so I really didn't know. What I should do. Should I walk around? You know shorts and Oakland like he can come over and get me like you know what's going to happen so I go upstairs. And I just watch CNN for like the first like six hours when I finally catch up with short. They're pretty. Nonchalant about everything because it was primarily in Los Angeles thing and they will watch and get like everyone else. But you know driving through Oakland. There are a couple things that bone. There was a lot of graffiti. But it was just something that everyone is reacting to nat necessarily living. Way People were in Los Angeles and I thought that was interesting, because I didn't know what to expect, but Oakland is kind of a place that has its own drumbeat. And they'll do it. They do on their schedule. Of all everyone else if the officer involved with Rodney King at acquitted, they weren't surprised. They know the nature of the beast they know the nature of the threat also caught about job is to cover this music cover new album, and it's really up to the artist's whether that they wanNA talk about it or how far they won't go. When we all get back to New York. Okay, what's going to be the cover? We have two short story. That I I'm really pushing for this cover, but yellow rebellion something. We're never going to experience again. Because at this point, we don't know, but my argument is. They're probably less opportunities to show it to have a cover. Then there will be I cover civil unrest I was betting. Betting that we would be where we are today so again. When you see that cover, it's this like the weird dichotomy and the contradictions of hip hop are just right there. I do want to point out one thing James I had not noticed this before, but here on the cover. The skyline does say the La Riots Oh. That's funny. Yeah, I think rebellion wouldn't fit at the top. Right well, the networks wouldn't show you as soon as it's kind off. You know we're selling. We're selling right. Grant itself I desk. And also I think people who wrote the cover copy were different, but I also I. Don't think rebellion would fit up there I. Remember this conversation about too short. Also you have to remember that at the time at the source. There was sort of mean. It wasn't a battle, but there were some of us who gravitated towards hip hop that originated on the West Coast and the south, and there were still people that we refer to. As they weren't backpackers, but they were definitely New York New York to. To film, and that was it, and that was it, and so and proud of it and Reggie were too short fans so for me, also I wanted to shorten to cover because I was a too short fan and I think in retrospect it was the right decision and Mr Authorizing to. It's not under I. Mean you literally have a photo of like a burning billy? It's not underplayed. No, no, we almost had a super coz. Photograph of Rodney King Bruised up over burning building like those are the choices. Distributors New News vendors already nervous about this magazine to begin with so. People want to read about too short. They Wanna read about what makes a source to source. They also want to read about the rebellion. They know they're gonna get it when that shortchanging anyone when Ed ignoring anything, so it was really a coin. Toss but back then if you define the rat magazine, even though we'd had Malcolm X. Cover, you wanna stay on brand as much as possible and those were a lot of the conflicts. Ram What is hip. Hop Is TLC HIP hop. Should we have Dr Dre with a gun to his head? You know we would give our publisher problems every day and I'm sure these discussions were going on at other magazines, but we were so close to the material. Many of us had lived of this material, so we wanted everything to be as caught on xtra graded as possible the language, the images, the point of view non-judgmental. You know I'll tell the James Benard story when he gets the South Central, there's a white family taking pictures of some of the ruins and one of the guys James. With just takes the camera and has it to James. James and James Spencer the of the weekend with the stolen camera taking pictures so when we get a the film developed kids we had to get. The roles developed the first third of the first role as he's white family on vacation then is pockets I forgot about that because it's a reference to the camera and article, and that was like I. Don't remember owning a camera and. You know and then there was a scene in there with a guy. The COPS CO beside us and he's flipping off the cops. We were buck wild and you know. From neighborhoods of gangs have been at war for thirty years. You know and people were like you know I. Mean Maybe Thirty Years I mean I'm scared I. Don't remember at all being afraid. Because those were our folks, those were the there were fans of the magazine. So there is a I don't want to say a secondary narrative, but there is another through line in your article, which is about war de-escalation, which is something that had already been in motion prior to the verdict there had been meeting. Do you talk about this a little bit? But there had been meetings between leaders of certain sets sort of setting the table, and then in the immediate aftermath of the verdict, the uprisings. kind of this collective understanding of you're not my enemy. You're not man, meet their. The enemy were opposed to them were posted what they're doing to us and that's kind of the second half. Your piece really really gets into that and I'd like to hear more about that because I think I'm not sure. If this story, you are aiming to tell when you got on the plane to go there, but it's tending towards a hopeful note there. There are some skepticism right at the at the end of the peace, but overall pieces tending towards a hopeful note about what's going to happen in south central in south Los Angeles with young people who just three weeks earlier had been really really deep in gang life. It happened so quickly I. Mean when I hit the ground. You know I witnessed people who were at war like the guided and the brother I'm in the picture with is. I spent most of the time. encrypt neighborhoods. And so I remember. When we publish that picture. I was like this is not really representative of the like. This is a guy who you know I kind of I've met him and we may have hung out. He says euphemistically, but you know I. didn't I don't remember. That guy but he came to this neighborhood and hadn't really been over there. Reference people who had been in an elementary school together hadn't seen each other in years I mean I was seeing this and it was amazing. How quickly people had come together because even on not from there. I knew how deep you know that person killed my friend. You know what I'm saying that kind of thing, and then how quickly that happened, and then in the back of the piece the sidebar. SIDEBAR was about a of demands. Yet were put together by CRIPS and bloods with the help of one of their lawyers, and it's very hopeful I mean these folks thought this the beginning of a new day, and not just hopeful, but I mean things that I'm sure. Protesters are seeking right now. If you told me this was put out this week, Amir which it was put out this week, it's two columns on the last page of your piece. There are different subheads facelift for the City Education Economic Development Human Welfare and. Very strikingly I'd like to read the law enforcement one. This is from the bloods and crips proposal law enforcement. The bloods and crips demand that any police personnel be residents of the communities that they are assigned patrol something. We hear a lot. Borrowing from the Black Panthers they recommend. The former gang member should be hired as a troll buddies after going through training, these buddies will monitor all police activity armed with video cameras to fight potential abuses, its very forward, thinking so forward thinking obviously were just on the heels of Rodney a year after Rodney Gang, which is really the first video captured police brutality video gets widespread attention. This really anticipates what we. Have now to some degree in what is still lacking. Oh yeah, and also. What I thought was interesting. Well, Look Federal Government Human Welfare, so the subheads La Facelift right they WANNA turn over abandoned buildings for counseling centers and recreation areas, people being bored young people. Being bored is not having things to do was a big refrain. It's a whole thing on education law enforcement. Economic Development Human Welfare where they talk about building hospitals in communities dental offices, and then at the end of it, it said in return the bloods and crips well and request a drug lords of Los Angeles to take their money's and invest them. It's unbelievable that this happened within days within. Weeks of the rebellious and a lot of this reminds me have look on on instagram and twitter. You see a lot of people talking about taking lease and reallocating resources to other departments. Issue in Los, Angeles about the disproportionate amount of the upcoming budget that's devoted to policing as a social services i. read this and I read exactly like that. We thought this was a revolution in seem so naive, but it wasn't just because of the way people were talking I mean the problem was no appeared out. There was no organization to sustain things and keep organizing going, but the impulse was there. People thought this was revolutionary, and it was really look when people looked without condoning it and not just saying that because I'm talking to. To New York Times, but without condoning it. That's where the class struggle if a consumer oriented society dangles all the stuff in front of you all the time, and you can't have it. You can't have it because something's wrong with you because you can't earn enough money. So how do you fight back? It's very vulgar. You know, and it's very shortsighted, but it's also like I'm. I'm angry. What am I going to do this? And in some ways? What I saw there happening and away people were articulating things literally John where the weather buildings will still burning. People were talking like this. This wasn't like six months later. Hindsight this. Wasn't you know I'm trying to justify my actions? This was yesterday i. hit that building because of X.. Y. And Z. Yesterday. Yesterday I didn't hit that building. Because X Y, and Z and the anger going on now is valid more than valid, but it also legitimize everything that had been settled the music. Every place to culture was going everything that the mainstream media disagreed with and didn't want to be true. It all happened. You couldn't question NWEA. Is T- anything like that ever again you couldn't question. Question the gang situation you couldn't say he didn't understand it because they will warning the world for as long as there was rap music, and as long as black people Mexican. We're in Los Angeles and this happened. It doesn't happen just because people are feeling economically constrained or immobilized by their conditions. This always happens as a result of police brutality. That's the only thing that really sets. Sets Acuity off in this manner, and when you think of all the things that we suffer right, we make the best out of a bad situation, which is something I believe you should never do. You know I shouldn't be in a bad situation and the situation is the problem, not response to it, so yes, on one hand you can say well. It's not constructive to burn. Burn Down Your own community, but I think we burn down less of our communities this time and low and behold a black woman is elected mayor of focus of Missouri something that six years ago seemed very remote, so things that happen now we'll see what the story is six years from now ten years now where we are because right now. You can't say that it's not. Not your problem and it's not really black. People's following the solve. Everyone has has a hand in the solution, but there's no hiding when they pull the gate of the Great Lane Watch store on Fifth Avenue. It's real when they're inside. macy's on thirty Fourth Street. It's real when you're on Fifth Avenue. It's real, so you can ignore this, but you've already seen what can happen. This was like the the B-team. The C team that was out in the street while using the kids, the district will just wasn't targeted grown folks who know how to organize and are out to really make a possibly DEG statement. This is the morning. Nobody's afraid of police. No one's afraid of the military. Helicopters you this is what you've made. And how many mfs and everything else cops called all this week and all last week. Right to their faces right so you can ignore this, or you can actually enact some real reforms. People people will do their part to vote. Get the right people in office but I don't know about decertifying all police, but those unions need to be looked at the relationships between prosecutors and police need to be looking at because they they wait eight days nine days to arrest everyone where if the officers were arrested by last? Last Thursday. Maybe half the stuff wouldn't have happened one of the things when I see people talking about legal reforms that are actually potentially on the table right now one in keeping with what you were just talking about. A lot of cities or municipalities have laws that keep police disciplinary records, confidential and private, and there are movements in in various places to repeal those laws or to repeal those protections and I think that ties in with the Union saying that you're talking about in the relationship between Union prosecutors. It's all it's all of a piece. But how do you even address the problem? When outside of the independent media, you can't go anywhere and get an official count of how many people police shoot in a year so you don't know what this. Is We. We know what it is, but I think once those numbers come out. It'll be understood that systemic change needs to happen those folks in l. a. and Ninety two were like this is the last straw, and there's stuff beyond forcement that we want change you know this coronas virus sort of lay bare a lot of different things, and you can imagine, or I could only dream that larger demands that come out of this thing. You talked about independent media, providing accurate coverage of how police actually function in American cities. Did. You feel the source during your era was also a form of an accountability tool. We were trying to hold the mainstream media accountable. We will try to hold ourselves accountable. Chuck D of public. Enemy said the reason he started the group was that he wanted to create five thousand black leaders, and no one had asked me to participate in anything in my life, and this man said I could be a leader so I became, and who knows you know I think I've done a lot of good. The world I could have easily done a lot of bad, so you know the life you save might be own sometimes. After that. The question say the day after the Rodney King video tape surface. which sure today you can capture all of this anytime you want anytime. Something happens. You can pull out recording device. Someone heard a commotion from across the street grabbed a video camera went to their window and recorded this beating. So if you wonder how many people are not recorded now, no one was recorded back then because we. Constant surveillance that footage goes to the news. Everyone around the world watches this and we're appalled. We I've never seen so hit a night. Stick Twenty Times, and still trying to get up to say trying to resist. It only ran I. think that would like muscle memory. Nervous system was in operation. Leggy was not thinking trying to get away trying to. Attack you're under attack so next morning. I come to work on many office eight o'clock I. It's only being the publisher I'm trying to get some work done phone rings so before the receptionist arrives. Around picks up the phone pick up phone and as a guy, sort of had the mid western accent, and this is like eight in the morning, and he just almost hyperventilating. He so. Is and he's like. Did you say what the police had to them? Man and I'm like yeah. You know I saw it on the news. He's like I can't believe they did this. What is the source you're going to do? Are you going to cover it? You have to cover it. Please cover it. We need to know you guys have to do it then that tell us the truth. And that was the relationship that we had with the readership that we had with the community, so man called up the number magazine to talk to someone at eight in the morning to vent about what he had seen because he knew it was important, he knew we were going to be positioned to cover it the way it needed to be covered. I, think we take for granted looking in the rear view mirror. How important the source was as a voice in terms of articulating the politics of this generation. But it's important. Also keep in mind that you guys were also. Not Make it up as you went along, but you're sort of inventing Munster month and Addict Reggie Wada. You had a very good point very early in the conversation, which is hip hop was all of these things it was it was politics was style. It was music, and that afforded you the space to go in any one of these directions and make it part of what the magazine responsibility was, and the thing that I often think about when I think. Think about entertainment publications, music publications is there is a moral imperative to cover the potentially challenging topics that the artwork discusses and necessitates, and it's interesting that we're talking about the source in nineteen, ninety two, because that's the nineteen ninety-two sort of had a wide berth, and not loads of competition. This has just before vibe starts. Obviously, there's rap pages and rap sheet and things like that, but you guys have a very very wide birth who really got to? Set The table and the boundaries of or really just there are no boundaries to what a hip hop magazine and informed hip hop, listener and enthusiast should care about and I think that change a generation thought of and how they viewed themselves. I think you're right and we thought about ourselves as artists. We were putting out albums. We say this back in the day like every month was a statement in Oh so, it wasn't even really journalism. You know I mean I wasn't going out there. To be unbiased. You know saying you know I didn't Luke, but we were making statements and every month we started. Started from scratch and it was kind of like. What are we going to say this month? We did a three part series celebrating the tenth anniversary of crack. That's also newsworthy. One day before we go reggie. You alluded to something earlier that I think may not be totally especially for younger listeners. They may not totally understand what you're talking about the newsstand and how important it was to be set your. We're selling. We're selling the issue at that time. What were the sources newsstand sales like like what was in mostly a newsstand thing? Mostly subscriptions in New York City we outsold Time magazine Newsweek Rolling, stone. I started out in retail sales for the magazine and I would go to meetings with distributors. Who will take the source on? Because what is this? How do we rack this? People would call the distributors they would call. Outlets wears his magazine. I've heard of whereas magazine I've heard of classes like tower records and San Francisco nine hundred copies among right. The circulation Director Rolling Stone called me. They want to bundle the source with rolling stone, but they WANNA know. Can we get rolling stone? The locations at the sources because we've never heard of any of these places. Where people are buying the magazine because we're in the hood? And we're teaching people how to retail magazine. How to do returns. Outta Organiz thing how to promote it, and it was a fifty state strategy that we did so in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety two. Maybe the majority of sales were in New York and new. Jersey, so if you're in, Houston and magazine had just sold out or two guys grabbed at the same time. There will be a fight, so there was a scarcity, but people wanted the potency of the of the information. Because we were on their side, we were on the side. Side of the reader, so newsstands were kind of a a very sort of stayed almost genteel kind of thing, because it works one way, and no one's sees fit to reinvent anything because you don't really get paid to reinvent anything because magazines will be here forever. Why should we change anything and basically everything we wanted to do? There was some pushback from a magazine. Consultant or whomever is too many scowling black people on the cover in someone's smile once in a while. We can have a man. A black man with a gun in his hand. Okay, how about Dr Dre pushed a gun to his own head. Oh, well! Maybe that'll work. Okay, so these are things that we always cognizant of. And can you make a magazine pop off the rack when you walk by and see it it a logo gonNA work, but but it was really the material. It was really the content people look for the source if people than have it, people requested that they offer it and that's really what happened, so we want forcing anything down anyone's throat. We would. Would trying to meet the demand, but the demand was always out there. It was just the industry who had never dealt with anything like this before had to figure out a way to be in business with us, and basically all they had to do is make it available on a nationwide scale and sold itself, or somebody wrote in Salt Lake Crack and and. Of course, the crudeness, the newsstand model, which is not the contemporary model at all, obviously, which is online I, but you know I think of the roll out of murder dog I think the roll out of feds. Don Diva. That is the same template we were doing true crime. We doing you know rappers in their in their cars. We're doing the. The material stuff as well, but you do stuff like that, and then trump e. would pull you aside and be like Hey, man! What about the culture? What about the politics like what does all this fluff I? Don't you know I don't read the sources? You know for sneakers right? But we knew all of that would have. It's time and also it. had a very robust merchandise enterprise. It should be said so just for the records logo ever great logo. Great logo will always trying to find that balance. But like I said if we only covered politics I would have been happy with that. If we only coven music I would've been happy. We only covered fashion I would have been abby. We only coverage sports. I would have been happy because all of these things were converging. And we were the only people who could be there Reggie James I. Appreciate You for what what you don for what you help. Build for my generation and the generations beyond thanks for. took. ME. By. Big. Ryan. And rain being before we go. Another week another. After the fact insertion to pop cast because things are changing rapidly something that happened actually the day that we recorded this I noticed. Just before we started recording one of my colleagues and old friends Jenna, worthy had posted on twitter a protest against an op-ed that the New York Times published. By Republican senator about military intervention I don't want to get into all the details the point was. She voice this protest and I saw that right before we start recording and I was very struck for a number of reasons, people may or may not know this, but working at the New York Times, there are certain boundaries that we are not allowed to cross, or we're not expected to cross we. Don't make donations to political candidates or causes. We are not allowed to speak about our political opinions and were often strongly strongly. From speaking about basically in house business. And even more moved when I noticed after we were recording this episode, I went on twitter, and I saw that dozens of people had tweeted and re tweeted the sentiment people who worked in the new. York Times people who don't work for the New York Times in saying. That publishing. That piece put black new. York Times staffers endanger black lives in danger and. Statements of human rights like that feel like they should be made. I think if you've been paying attention to what's been happening in the two or three days since that protests, you'll see that people are having hard conversations inside and outside the paper. End. It's been really encouraging and I'm I'm incredibly proud to work alongside my colleagues taking a stand like that I'm grateful for them. I support them a stand with them. And I hope everybody listening. We'll stay with us. That's our show. Thanks again to Reggie and James Listen to every PODCAST EVERETT NY times dot com slash podcast. Check out the facebook group get involved. Get Shatti I'm thinking of maybe doing a survey type thing on facebook group, while we are all still in varying stages of sheltering in place. Email us. DOT, com subscribe to podcast any where you get your audio content, apple, spotify Stitcher, etcetera, etcetera, our producer. From have supper media, we'll be back next week. Music?

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CSM LIVE with Sarabeth Burk, Corey Foote and Maggie Whittum

"This episode recorded live at CSM IN DENVER. Which seems like a lifetime ago. Greta too far and got to talk with a bunch of people who've been on the show before Sarah Beth burke who does work with hybrid professionals bringing several different professional identities together to create one super identity corey foot from Arias medical staffing our friends that support the show. We talk about travel. Pt Some of the misconceptions that Some people might have about it. Which maybe you're standing in your way about traveling and Maggie widow Maggie in mazing stroke survivor now in the process of putting together her story on the big screen. We get an update with Maggie Cory and Sarabeth in this episode of the show brought to you as always by our friends from owns recovery science. They're a single source for physical therapists looking for certification knowledge and research in personalized blood flow restriction rehabilitation training. It's B. F. R. 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That's the way we love to have you guys. payback so Bring him back to be a return. Guest returner here burke. Welcome back to the show lever here person our here purse. I said when we had you on the show the first time I was like. Hey we're going to go to Denver. We got person. You're probably like. Yeah sure Weird Pizza Guy with a radio show on the Internet Okay and then this is your whole no. It was Valentine's Day offer to remember that was it. Yeah you like a year ago. No you're GONNA do this on Valentine's Yes yes he wants to be my silhouette dates with you so so let's give it. We call it a re rack in. Radio is like what starlets catcher backup? So I trip across you on in the Internet which is the best place to find weird but also cool stuff and you're the cool stuff. You're the cool stuff. Category made the cut made the cut. So what's your probably the one of the probably the best person in this entire city to give the your pets or your your elevator pitch and explaining what you do? How do you explain what the people in inevitably say? What either I mean. That's my question is what do you do? I feel so out of place in this bar. 'cause I'm the only person that's not a PD public? Yes so my little pitch is that I- research professional identity. I think that a lot of people have multiple professional identities and many of them are blending those identities together to work in the intersection. And I call that being hybrid professional so hybrids are this new type of professional. The workforce that no one's talking about there's been hidden and instead of just being expert or generalist. You can be both. There's a term for in between and that's being a hybrid so that's what I talked about all right. So why is it new though? I don't know if I specifically like why wasn't this thirty fifty years ago? Why is there a why? Now I don't know I when you google the word hybrid or hybrid worker hybrid professional. There's literally barely anything out there. So I think the term is like just Riet. People haven't hit that the trend enough of it yet and I don't know why because I think it's such a perfect way to talk about who we are so a physical therapist who also works in sports or working. Sports is that that's not really a hybrid because there are they too close to be hybrid like a radio. Dj becomes a physical therapist. And then figure out how to make it a physical therapy radio show. That is hybrid. Yeah hybridity is the combination of two different professional identities or it could be three or four. There's sort of a core amount of identity then diagrams. Elaine always diagram girl. Yes you know my brain so you. You don't just do this as a hobby. This professional study for you. We'll funny I actually Emma hybrid professional myself. I have a day job. I'm the director of this innovation. Ecosystem that solving challenges for Early Childhood in Colorado? But I was so obsessed with my own professional identity that I started researching it and I have my PhD. And I just got really nerdy and the next thing. I knew I was writing a book about it so the books come on April and I'm like the world needs to know about being a hybrid professional and I'm also hybrid professional. It's me talking about what I do. So you have like a workbook and you sent one to a filled that out and it really does ask you a bunch of questions reflective self-assessment kind of questions. I knew what I did is a radio. Dj SLASH PT Slash. Podcast guy. But when you start asking yourself those questions you start to see the different things that maybe even yourself are so that that workbook people can get from your website which is more than my title Dot Com because we are in fact more than just our title I am. You are an Jimmy. There's a book coming to the WORKBOOK is not the book great. You're going to have a bigger bucks to me about what's in the book of what's in the book box so the workbook is the. Do you find your hybrid freshly done by the way when PBS. Listen to this. We love stuff like assessment tool on stuff like that so there are lots of diagram. There's a word search list. There's all kinds of fun goodies in the workbook. But the book book talks about the concept it really gives the background of who are hybrids. And what do they look like? And what why? Where did this all start from? Maybe you could be one of. You didn't know it's possible or an option or hey baby you could. Maybe you could melt things get you love and love both those things even more not one or the other exactly and also employers and clients don't understand how to hire train retain or recruit hybrid professional. What do I do with the deals? The book talks about stuff like that to talk about the future being hybrid and talks about the current day. It really is just all the background information. That isn't in the arts so reading your book. Have you ever read building a story brand no suggests that talked about on the show before and essentially talks about how to bring the audience and the audience is no matter who who? You're trying to speak to using narrative. I was an this guy had a lot of similar as I was reading. This guy's book Donald Miller. I was just on your workbook. I was like okay. I'm seeing a lot across over here. Little then diagramming and I changed my twitter. Instagram handles using your model and his model hybrid together. Once you tell me if it's good so I I explain not necessarily myself. This is just for the podcast. I'm a podcast that saves physical therapists for missing out on amazing insight remarkable ideas and motivational stories. So that talks more about the show and then I tell people I paint vivid pictures in their head about what they want to become as a physical therapist and then seminole inevitably goes. What's that mean? I go right this way. Let me tell you some more so good. I close my still whittling down like my my pitch and how to so what would your hybrid professional identity title. Be so that you have. That was the word last semester. And my thing is I freeze that wordless. I was like all of them are. Are these fifty two hundred. You'll know you gotta whittle down what he do. That would let down again. I would say the word connector keeps coming up to me. I'll just say maybe I connect with stories or connect. I WANNA connect the physical therapy profession to each other with stories. So funny enough. I have another friend who is also like a leadership coach. And she's a visionary and a connector and she made her hybrid title Vision Nectar. I gotTa get you can do this. You're stealing one word now. I just want you to randers with that hybrid title but I loved all your narrative descriptive stuff that you put in your. I get it from my description. I need to go more of what I do that all right. You've got the creative. Pt podcast minds. I need a book about it and there was a book coming in April. Maybe I should just coach a little more than my title. Dot Com is the dip. So when you walk in this room when you're because that sometimes I think when you're neck deep and something it's hard to see yet but you're in a room of physical therapy. You know a lot about physical therapy. What are some different hybrid? Things that physical therapists could shed parishes noticing when they walked in how many people have backpacks with those little curly. Wander Thing Team Eric. Everywhere in this room I think that is a hybrid moment. Happening in the. What do you mean who drinks beer with a therapy? They'll just came from. Csm conference just walk around on a Tuesday although probably not it looks normal around here amongst the Weirdos of us. Pt's no no one thinks twice about it. And I have no problem. Just drink and seven or eight beers with an by the way the next little Can you give me a little? A little? Cain action they'll do that for. Oh I should talk to them. I miss may opportunity now. Well they're here. They're they're social. Louvre can is deep us. Someone just handed me back massages now. Agree and or creepy pickup line by the way is hey you might give you a neck rub at the at the bar with this group brought to it. Yeah so with the book coming up. What are people going to get out of it? Why read this? And when I'm done I know more about myself. I mean literally. The Earth shattering concept is awareness of the word hybrid professional. I think first and foremost people don't even know that term exists no idea and then second of all they don't know they can have permission to be one. Those are the two ideas I think are going to change the the workforce on the total permission to do that. Permission to be a hybrid. I did you know and I'll tell you this I've talked about this before and we'll have a little therapy sash not physical emotional there so I'm not sure I walked away from clinical practice. I don't see patients right now. A fulltime job though at a physical every practice. Fox Free APP where I host their podcasts. I write their blogs helped write blogs. I create their videos. I go to conferences like this. I speak I connect to want to flip fulltime job but I'm still sitting there feeling guilty like how. I'm not touching a patient and then I actually came up with that word. Can you touch a patient without ever actually touching patient news so if I say something if we say something on this show right now listening right now you take it you put it into practice and it helps ten patients tomorrow or next month have I have? We touched a patient. I think we have ads pretty profound. I'm getting pretty metaphysical Meta Meta. What's the common thing that you see when people are like a WanNa be a hybrid professional? What's what he kinda say or what's the common theme in terms of why they what they need to take that leaper your chip Beck lift. Yeah I mean I do think it's a choice. Yeah and I do think it's something you can evolve into like if you only had one job in your job history. You're not a hybrid yet. Right have a couple professionally done years so if people are like I think I might be but I'm not sure I would say you have to do some self reflection you need to get really clear on what your best out where you light up shine in your work and know what those identities are and then like. I did with you starting to do that. Professional Identity Math. Where you say. Okay if I'm a hybrid and a crossover for me. It's my artists and my researcher identities. Then what am I doing? And if you're trying to be a hybrid you have to pay attention to who you are in the interception of your identity. It's really challenging my my way of introducing talking to people about hybrids. I can't walk up to them and say hi. Are you a hybrid professional? What you do in the intersections of your identity people's minds blow on what planet are you coming from? So I talked about how they feel. Feelings are really good caters when you are like you're most alive and energize and work is flowing. You're probably in your intersection. So just to have a little more awareness of that moment and be like. Oh when I'm doing this podcast. Radio show talking about physical therapy on hybrid. Now Yeah and the thing is. I've heard something similar from my professor what I was doing. I was referred skied out of it. She said that. Pay attention at the thing. That's so obvious to you lights you up. You just assume that lights. Everybody said well. Everybody likes that. It's like no big. Don't if you really liked that you have to recognize that. Not Everybody is into the same stuff you are so. Don't just assume that thing that you like is like well that's too broad. I couldn't make a career that you you might be able to like for me when I'm in meetings. I actually start doing role plays with people because I'm doing like user. Experience Design and people have never done role plays during meetings before and I'm having the best time in there like this woman. Like what is she having a stupid? It makes sense and we get somewhere with it. But that's my hybrid. Yeah that nobody knows that you're allowed to we. Don't just we don't always have to come into this meeting room and sit down and talk for exactly forty nine minutes make small talk for five and lead the. I know we can do whatever. I've got a creative meeting coming up at Fox it just a couple of weeks and I hope no one's listening because I haven't told him about this we'RE GONNA. We're going to tackle different Things that you podcast videos about and I'm literally GonNa make them wear different colored hats literally so blue his logic and purple and black is the opposite of what everybody's saying trip and let's all now now. We switched bunch of hats. Like we're GONNA do what I'm like if you think we only have a meeting one way. Think differently. I love what you're doing all right so the workbooks already available surf. You're hearing this and you're like I'd like to take that assessment. That workbook is available and the book is coming in April. I can't wait. What are you what success look like to you for the Book I mean I really would love like one little personal thing. I just want to be flying on an airplane and look over to the person next to me and they're just reading my book value moving but my big vision for this work is that it becomes common terminology in the workplace people. Say Oh are you an expert a journalist or a hybrid and that we start to understand those types of workers and that you hire them for different things and you also manage them differently. The hybrid gets restless. Have figured it out yet like hybrids change jobs a lot and so we look like we're we have a lack of attention. We can't stay still bright but it's mostly because we're not fully using our hybrid identities that we start to feel like part of us as missing because not all of our hybrid. Professional identities are used. I get restless without a lot and I. I get anxious I am. I not producing enough like you're fine. You're doing more because I got these. Two Sides macbrayne like kind of kicked on. It's of feel good to know that. Like someone's going to read your use your workbook reach your buck more than my title Dot Com. And they're gonNA come out and they're going to be happy. You're people are going to read what you wrote and become happier cools. The lightbulb moment is what I see on people's faces when I meet them and talk to them resonates ding-dong. It just makes sense. That's cool so thrilled. If I can do that for like you would like touch more people through my work. I would love that not at a bar or the bar. I mean this is a physical group. They're not are you done this before we're GonNa do it again parting shot. You're ready serious. The parting shots rock tape. The world's leading kinesiology tape is bringing you. Your parting shot more than just tape company. Though a movement company giving you the classes the education and yes the world leading kinesiology tape to get your patients moving stronger longer. Find out more information about raw tape and how you can apply with your patients at rock tape dot com slash medical as rock tape dot com slash medical party. Shot your last thing. You want the audience member and it will. We'll go with you know people in the Bar. People bar listening at home so my parting shot is that you can be multiple professional identities. Gobi hybrid job re hybrid on more than my title. Dot Com as we record this day before Valentine's Day thanks to be my Valentine gift here. The book will be out in April and go there and take that assessment. And if you've got you've got that background and flex that muscle. Pt Reference Flex those muscles and be happier. The world needs. Were hybrids show? Who you really are. The we'll be right back to the P. T. Fine cast can't thank Arias medical staffing enough. They've been our longtime supporter of the show. Since the beginning of the only reason I work with them as this. They've got a great mission getting to do what they want which is be a physical therapist wherever they want yet travel. It's a thing and they're believing expert super easy to work with them. You decide where you want to be a physical therapist. Short term assignment long term assignment. Listen you WANNA do winters and Colorado and summers at the beach. Yes you can do that. So check out what they have to offer their positions in all fifty states. If you can dream it they can set it up and you'd be a physical therapist where you WanNa work. Listen Your career. You have a license to practice physical therapy do that wherever you want A. Us MEDICAL DOT com. That's the website no obligation just to check out all the possibilities a U. R. E. U. S. Medical Dot Com. And we're back. Let's get back to the show we are live at pt pub here at the Mile High City. Csm A big dance in physical therapy Here with no stranger to pursue corker. Welcome back man. Yeah thanks for having Jimmy when people say what do you do because that happens a lot here at CSM right? What do you tell them? So we recruit for travel therapy so a lot of times. We're talking to students but here at CSM we get to talk to students and Senate educate them on getting into travel therapy if they're not familiar with it and just kind of. Give them the INS and outs I say because Rs longtime sponsor. The show have been supporting us. Put a wind. They put the wind in the pirates ship sails. And let us do this crazy thing. We roam around bars and get thrown out of bars at tonight just talking and when we talk about Arias I always say listen. I I like to talk about the barriers to travel therapy. And what happens is people when they think like well. I'M GONNA move state to stay. I don't know how to do that. And then there's licensure and taxes and housing and those are all not reasons right. We we do everything we can make that an easy transition. So we reimburse for state licensure. Let's say you're moving from Arizona Texas Texas license. You'll be responsible for actually getting the license and all the process. We're there to help out if you have questions but it seems you're taking that Simon that state with us. We're GONNA reimburse you for that license if you need it. I love the highlight. I don't mean to cut you off. I like to highlight whenever you hear but well but you gotta get your license but housing but taxes but this I go. Here's the thing are doing this for twenty years. There's a person or likely people ask who do the thing the barrier that you the removing of the barrier that you're that might be holding you back from traveling and that's listen. Don't let it be a barrier. They've solved this problem for. I don't know hundreds of thousands of travelers at this point. It's gotTa be right absolutely the biggest thing you can think about if you have a barrier that you're worried about give us a call at least ask the question because we have an easy answer for you if its licensor if it's moving if it's taxes it's not twenty years. It's been thirty years therapy actually. So we've been doing for a long time and like you said if you have questions about it just call us. There's no pressure and is talking to us. Travels now for everybody. But do you have questions about it. We're going to answer it and make it for you. I say two things about that number one. It's not the military where soon as you on the phone like. Hey you're locked in you. Don't want that as travel. Concierge call you guys. The clinic doesn't want that news therapist. Nobody wants sat in the equation. And the second thing is we tend to make our fears our insecurities bigger than they are. So if something's holding you back from doing something amazing like doing exactly what you WanNa do being a great therapist wherever you want to do it like think about that. That's win it the thing that's in the way is taxes or licensure or see us have the conversation. Say The thing that's scary out loud and it's not as scary chances. Are you've solved the problem? Let's success stories. You guys are always on your social media. Showing people who are therapists. Lots of different types of therapists mainly PT's PTA's just crazy places getting to do what they want. Talk about a couple of like when you get the feedback. The pictures stories. Thank you for letting me do what I wanted to do. What COMES TO MIND? I mean just go to if you're on instagram checkout at medical dot com our entire pages dedicated to traveller pictures so we have anything from Hawaii to Alaska to all the forty eight continental states and the biggest thing I've learned about I'm not a PT. I'm never going to travel. Pt But talking with and helping people achieve their goals traveling. You see a different part of the world. Every time you see it I've born and raised in Nebraska lived in North Carolina for a little bit but I've really seen a lot of the country besides travelling for fairs and there are so many cool spots in the country that you can go and visit in the pictures sending May. Maybe it's go to Hawaii for three months. You'RE NOT GONNA make the most money going there. But it's a working vacation. You'RE GONNA make some money and you're gonNA white or if it's your dream to spend three months in. Vermont and just skiing every weekend. We can make that happen in anything in between. I mean it's crazy and we also have people who maybe they're PT and their spouse. I this is actually a couple. I've worked with she was a PT. Been just kind of tagged along home school their kids they didn't rv trek across the country. And that was. They did year round so it really every lifestyle. You think. Traveling isn't for your lifestyle thing again. Because there's somebody else probably has a pretty similar lifestyle WHO's made it work for them. Yes not A. Maybe this is. This is already happened this past happening. It's happening great bad and we say could be long term. Assignments can be short term assignments. Right take I like to frame it this way. Take a test drive on a part of the country that you might want to move to get paid to go test it out. Why not say hey? I want to go live in the Pacific Northwest Great. Go test it out and get paid to do it and then also you might be like. Yeah and double down on long term assignment or say. No let's go to the South West. It's got to be so I mean. This country is huge. All fifty states and I got knocked. A few times is a DC courses DC. So I gotTa make sure all fifty states and dc out what are some of the Faq's because you guys are the booth here at CSM major conferences. You'll you'll find are as Faq that come up from From students in season professionals students for sure. WanNa know by mentorship so we do have mentorship available where we have new grads facilities where. There's GonNa be a full time on site with you during your assignments. We can also pair you up with one of our former travelers working permanent now but there. There's a resource to kind of help. The next generation come along. There will be honest with you. But they're gonNA be a phone call tax email mash up one on one with you to kind of have that resource while other. Faq's come a long term and Kinda hit on it. Where test drive it there. Thirteen Week contracts. That's the only commitment you ever locked into so it turns ship. Yeah get paid for this time. Yeah if you don't like traveling after thirteen weeks there's no way it really need travel company. That's GONNA say no. You're stuck here for some tuition reimbursement where it locks into long-term we don't do anything with that worries. Gives you the flexibility upfront? Where if you don't like after thirteen weeks go find on the permanent. Let's we'll help you find together. Yeah we're a full-service company. We base ourselves on travel but we also have permanent positions to so anything we can do to make you find your perfect fit whether that's travel or permanent or something now with us. We're still going to help you find it James Spencer on the show a couple of weeks ago. He gave us a preview episode Denver. He's a long time traveller. He used to do Aspen in the winter and then he do the Hawaii Aspen back to the winter. Martha's Vineyard Aspen back in the woods. So can you do that? Not only cage you that you should be doing that now. You should be doing you want to spend you know Hawaii Hawaii winter. Yeah for sure and yeah just go where you want same time and if the physicians there we're GonNa help you get there. What's the easy way to get information? Like people are not in the law and they're like okay. What should they do first website called? Wh What's the deal? What's your recommendation? Either way you go to. The website are east medical dot com a U. R. E. S. That's a good way to kind of look at jobs on there. See what we're all about. There's apply buttons. You can find pretty easily. Just get your information in there and then after that recurs gonNA reach out to you otherwise you can reach out to. I know four zero two nine. Three eight two zero five zero. That's kind of like our main line. Just ask for you know if you're a student so the senior line go with that and you know if you're PTA getting ready to just travel and your experience when cactus recruiter right away so we want. We want to hear from you and help you out. Start drooling I would say from the instagram page. Just cleared none of those none of those pictures from clinics man. That's from what those those clinicians doing the local stuff climbing mountains surfing hanging out on the beach. I mean yeah man get into town and find some cool restaurants. That's the stuff are a you are a US medical dot com. WanNa thank you for being a longtime support of show. If you're thinking about this these guys have been doing it. They all those things that are scary under the bed. They've solved them and then some they wouldn't be doing it for three decades unless they had so. Thanks for doing what you do Louis Thanksgiving for having us on this is the PT podcast. New Step created the first practice kind twenty-five years ago. That was the new step. Recumbent cross trainer. Now it's a mainstay in Rehab. With physical therapists worldwide new step now continues its tradition of innovation with the new step transit. Another innovation in recumbent cross trainers for physical therapists delivering real time. Biofeedback with this piece of equipment letting you use it. Meaningful ways for awareness. Physical performance goals identifying correcting deficits or imbalances ticket test driver fund out MORE AT NEW STEP DOT COM. That's N. US step dot com online at new step dot com back to the Tai cast with Jimmy Mackay in the chaos of pub as we continue here. No Stranger to the show Maggie. Whittam pleasure to meet you in person and get to talk to you. We'd like to do what we call a rear rack for the audience. Which is get people up to speed? Make sure they didn't hear the first episode. We'll make sure they go back and listen to it. We told an amazing story. The first time you tell it amazing story with your website and you're going to continue to tell that story with documentary. It's your story. How do you tell people what your movie's about? Because now you're you're moviemaker you've got to have a trailer to get to suck them in to want to buy a ticket. How do you tell people what your movie is going to be about whether the movie's called the Great? Now what I would say. It's about stroke disability and resilience and the healing power of art use that S. Word Lot survivor. I do yeah I never call myself stroke victim. I come as a stroke. I think. That's a much more empowering word and Kudos because I'm a communications guy so I got the power of words the great now. What like. That's a movie title. That's a movie title. I agree I think it's a great title and you know it's like you have a stroke and you live throats and you. What the Hell do you do with your life now? You know what it's perfect so last time we talked. I CAN'T REMEMBER. It was like probably close to a year ago right. Yeah it made even more. Ya and at that point you were partially. I think working on the film. Where are we right now? As we stand in February twenty twenty I would say we're in an exciting position. We just finished our first cut of the film. So that's like having your first draft of a novel know what you're going to publish but it's it's the framework of what you're GonNa make and so we have that now and we're just keeping on working on it and every time I watch it. I am so thrilled because it's going to be such a great movie. That's awesome Our people are going to be able to see what different platforms? You'RE GONNA be able to share it on well you know. It's absolutely crucial that the film is available to people who are disabled. Then homebound so you know we're going to have an on and online streaming platform of some sort. I really hope it's like Netflix. Lakes euro or Amazon or HBO or something that That question will be answered once. We have a distribution deal. That we're GONNA make sure it's accessible to. Everyone liked that. Bring in no stranger to me. Kelly professor you're my like my neuro professor. Npt squad bright eyed and confused when you first met me a couple years ago when you hear Maggie talking about our movie talking about per story but being able to tell her story does that make you feel. It makes me feel great. I am so proud of her. I worked with her in Rehab on her journey and to see how far she has come. It's incredible and I am so glad that she has found her platform and her voice and that she is ready to share it with everybody. Her story is so powerful for patients. Clinicians friends everybody. Really everybody out. There needs to hear her story and so I'm so thankful that she is doing that. You know everybody who's surviving. A stroke has a story but you literally get to make yours into a movie. So you're a little bit different right there. What does success look like to you in terms of once the movies out? And you've got it out there and people are seeing it you know. What do you hope to make people feel and know and learn? What would go that? Look like to you for success. Gosh you know I that we treat disabled people pretty poorly in this country and so one of my goals is that we're going to build some empathy and compassion and understanding for people who have added stroke. People who are disabled people are chronically ill or dealing with chronic pain yes so. I I want to build a more empathic society. I think that's the goal that we're going to take a step towards Winston film is a big goal for the big screen. But if you're not GONNA do it. Who will right great that's true. You're you're an artist. You never stop being an artist. You just change mediums. Just a little bit and now you get to do this thing which cannot be easy in terms of taking. That story really crafting that message and putting it on a big screen like that. What's the timetable? When when can we have you back on this show to talk about the release day any any ideas any any any year? What you think? Well I really hope that it's going to be done by about this time next year. But then you know once it's finished we have to take it to festivals and that had a festival presumably we'll get a distribution deal so I hope that accessible to everyone non mass you know in a maybe a year and a half to two years. I can't say for sure you're the top. You're in the lingo arrogant. A distribution deal. That's all over my head but yeah let's do that. That's really exciting. The people involved with the project people that have been behind you and are still behind you getting as excited as well for for this to starting to get because it's got to be exciting to work on something for so long and no that the ball's moving towards the goal line absolutely. You know. I've been working on this for three and a half years now which is a very long time but you know every time every iteration of it is better and better and better. We started with seven minutes of material. And then we had eighteen minutes and then we add forty seven minutes and now we have an hour and fifty minutes. And we're just clarifying it every time We're going to shoot a little bit more and then we're going to have it ready to go and it's going to be amazing of that. Give everybody the website where they can see the trailer and follow along before it comes out the great now what dot com you're also available to talk and PT. Schools are a great place to do that. Because you've got impressionable. Students who want to know want to be able to do WANNA be able to help. You're going to be at Sundance. And now you're in the speaking circuit. I mean just make sure you answer my emails well next year. I WANNA talk. But that's something that you're passionate about doing as well which is taking your story and face to face absolutely and I'm so grateful to Kelly for the opportunity. I had with her to speak at Marymount University. I love bringing my story to students. Medical students species students nursing students as well as practicing doctors and therapists. You know. It's all about building empathy and understanding. Because you only see that patient for a little bit of time and they have a whole story before what happened and they have a whole story afterwards now what you know and and I hope that's what my presentation will help people learn about not every stroke survivors going to have a full length feature film like you but they do all have a story I like? I like when words have two meanings. That story is definitely a good one right there Maggie Kelly. You got a chance to bring Maggie into the classroom and and really have her tell her story in that way how the students respond to that were they take away from it when Maggie came to marry him out. We had her speak to two cohorts of our students. Both first and second year students the first year students were in the thick of learning about neuroscience and neural anatomy and sometimes when you're in the thick of learning about neuroscience and neuro anatomy. You feel like you're so in the weeds and you're like this is not human. Why am I here? What am I learning about? I WANNA learn about patients so I do my best to try and share patients stories with them show videos. But what was so powerful about when Maggie was there is that she was telling her story and bringing the neuro anatomy to life for the students in a way that I can never do. And the second year students who have already had neuroscience and had been in the clinic a little bit more also. Really benefited from her story. Because same thing she is bringing the neuroscience the neuro anatomy and the anatomy and all of the perceptions that we teach them in the classroom to life hearing firsthand from the patient. So different from hearing it from your professor. That's telling you this is how it is out there. You guys but then when they have somebody that can actually say that it really sticks with them and I still have students telling me today when Maggie came and talked to US X. Maggie came and talked to us. This is what I learned. I saw firsthand. What you were telling us in what I was reading in the book I saw come to life and now I'm really wondering what I can do in the future when I'm a clinician to help that person. So that's not an endorsement forgetting. Forget Maggie out to your school. Do some speaking no matter of setting. I'm not sure what is you know. That's that's a good. That's a good way to frame that as it's bringing those things and putting it in perspective. Pt Schools along three years. It's also a quick three years and when you can connect the dots who y you're learning what you're learning at makes it. It makes a struggle that those three years very clear. What's going to be at the end? All right so we want an update closer to the movie released eight closer to your distribution deals and you're speaking tours and Sundance. We all know it'll happen. Love that thank you for coming out. Thank you for having us in your hometown here in Denver. Do you want to give a nod real quick to family? What's the deal there because family is a theater group that you work with and kind of get people to get people to thirty thousand foot there? So Camberley spelled P. H. A. M. A. L. Y. Is An awesome theater group here in Denver? That only casts actors with disabilities. And I've been a performer with them for several years now and it's so empowering an so gratifying to go and see family show and see a bunch of amazing actors on stage. They all happen to be disabled but that is not something that defines them or restricts them. They're still amazing performers. And I wish that you could see a family show tour. They're on the road man to happen instead there in Japan right now performing at a theater they have a relationship with disability focused theater in Tokyo. So you'll have to come back and you can see him next time deal. It sounds good great now. What DOT COM? Is that website again? And we'll have an update as we get closer to Red Carpet maybe. 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How to Change Your Personality & How to Manage The Faster Speed of Life

Something You Should Know

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How to Change Your Personality & How to Manage The Faster Speed of Life

"Today on something you should know. Why do paper cuts hurt so much after all? It's just a piece of paper then I bet there is some part of your personality. You'd like to change, but most people believe it's hard to change my message. You're going to change either way, but you absolutely can change who you are. You can even change your view of your past. You don't have to view negative experiences from the past traumatic you can. Can actually choose to view your password positive light, plus when you can't remember where you put your keys, all explained the best way to find where you left them and managing your time in the fast pace of life, a lot of things can get in the way. There's one frequent email interruptions created drop an I q two and a half times greater than the drop, an Iq from smoking marijuana. You're better off long than an iphone. That's not exactly a tip, but you know what. I mean all this today on something you should know. Capital. One knows life doesn't always alert you about your credit cards. I'm not likely to stop an interview of this podcast to say hey, colleen, yeah, colleen, with a K., your free trial of movie plus ends tomorrow, and your card may be charged. You want to continue or cancel, so meet. iino the capital. One Assistant, no looks out for surprise charges like when free trials expire and helps you. If you need to fix them e-e-e-e-no another way capital one is watching out for your money when you're not capital one. What's in your wallet limitations apply? Something you should know fascinating Intel the world's top experts and practical advice. You can use in your life today something. You should now fit Mike carruthers! Hey Welcome to somethingyoushouldknow episode four hundred and thirty five. If you're keeping track. When you get a you know when you get a paper cut. Everyone's had a paper cut and you have to wonder how does. A simple piece of paper. Caused such excruciating pain well according to Dr, James, Spencer the reason is because most paper cuts happen on your fingertips, and your fingertips have more nerve endings than any other part of your body, so it comes down to location. If you get a paper, cut on, say your forearm. Is GonNa hurt very much. Paper cuts also don't heal as quickly and the reason for that is because since they're not very deep, you don't bleed very much from a paper cut and blood is full of wound healing chemicals that help heal it paper cuts. Don't get the benefit of that. Dr Spencer recommends using a liquid bandage to heal a paper cut, and if you don't have liquid. Crazy glue works just as good and that is something you should know. I imagine we all have parts of our personality. We'd like to change or that. We're not really happy with, but your personality is your personality right well maybe. But would you say you are the same person you were ten years ago? Probably not so your personality has changed, and it does change in an organic way, but when it comes to changing your personality in a deliberate way, that seems to be a challenge here to discuss what your personality is exactly and how it changes and how you can change it. Is Benjamin Hardy. He's an organizational psychologist contributor to INC and psychology today and he's author of a book. Called Personality is permanent. Benjamin! Thank you so much happened to be with you so before we get into why personality isn't permanent. Let let's define what a personality is. What what is my personality? Yeah, your personality is basically you're consistent way of showing up in the world. It's your consistent behaviors and attitudes. Personality and identity are two different things. Your identity is how you've self-described. Your identity is actually a lot more important than your personality, your identity being the way you define a describe yourself save yer, which in large portion over time becomes your personality so personality. You're consistent way of acting. And when you say personality isn't permanent, explain what you mean by that. Because I think there is a belief that you are who you are, you showed up this way. These are your traits. The this is what you do. This is who you are and. So. What do you mean it isn't permanent? Yeah. I mean it's not permanent from a lot of different angles one is there's a lot of what's called now. Longitudinal research basically did studies people over time in the idea. Is that over time you're going to change? Even, if you're not trying to people who are in their seventies or not, they don't have the same personalities as they did in their teens. It's just that's just true, but also your your view of yourself changes over time a lot as well. There's actually a tedtalk by Harvard psychologist by the name of Daniel, Gilbert and he often asks people. Do you think you're the exact same person you were ten years? Years ago in almost unanimously, people say no most people can see that there are changes between who they are today, and who were in the past in how they do things and how they see things in what matters to them, and so it's it's actually really important to view your current self as not the be all end all because you're not the same person you were in the past, but also. You're not going to be the same person in the future. But it does seem that some things are permanent. You know there are some people who are cautious. Some people who were risk-takers. Some people are Savor. Some people are spenders. Those things don't seem to change much. I think you're right I. think that they don't have to change. I think that they can change. I'm with you that the majority of people aren't GonNa make dramatic changes in themselves, but that's not to say that it can't happen. Someone who was a total spender could actually become educated and learn how to become great saver I. Can speak for myself on that one someone who's radically disorganized could learn how to become organized the rule. I guess you could say is that people aren't gonNA, make such big change. In fact, that's a rule in psychology as well. Is that the most easy way to predict a person's future behaviors by looking to their past? But that there's a lot of reasons for that, and it doesn't have to be that way well. It would seem that it doesn't have to be that way. If you believe it doesn't have to be that way, but a lot of people believe it's that way, so there isn't much point in trying. Yeah I mean that's what we call would call a fixed mindset, and there's a lot that comes with that. People often overly emphasize who they currently are, or they spend a lot of time looking to their past as the explanation for who they are. It takes a lot more first off imagination to think about who your future self would be who you want to be it would take a lot more courage rather than just defining your present self to say this is who I want to be that takes courage to actually tell people about who you WanNa. Be also from like. Let's just say in addiction standpoint. It takes courage to openly admit that you've you that you're doing things that you no longer want to be doing in the in the world. There's a quote that says you're sick as your secrets, and often it can be difficult to admit when you either have a problem or when you want to make a change, but. Being open and honest about that can really open the doors. You know when you talk about your future self. Who Do you WANNA BE? Usually that comes from a place of fixing something. That's wrong now that you want to be somebody who you're not now or who you haven't been in the past because there's something wrong with that, and now you want to fix that and be better right. It could be fixing something wrong. It doesn't have to be viewed that way though it could just be choosing something different I, mean I. I don't view the person I was three years ago as necessarily wrong, even though I don't want exactly the same things that I wanted three years ago. I'm choosing different goals. Maybe I even have different preferences. Having adopted various kids, and you know coming to a place where I'm choosing value different things I don't think I was formerly wrong. But I'm at, but I think I can now something better. and is it a constantly fluid situation in other words when you say well, let's talk about who I WANNA be. Well then do I. Get there and stop or am I always looking to be somebody different. have. You ever read the book man's search for meaning by Viktor Frankl, one of his observations was that when a person lost hope in purpose for their future, the present became meaningless. I think it absolutely wherever you are in the present, you actually need purpose for your future. Otherwise your present stops, having purpose and you either distract yourself from the president, or it just becomes too much I mean literally hope is a human need, as is purpose, and and so you you wherever you are and wherever you've arrived to. If you don't if you can't conceptualize a feed yourself, that gives your present meaning than you're gonNA. You're. GonNa be stuck, and what's interesting is even buzz Aldrin the famous astronaut This is what happened to him. You know he went to. The moon was wanted top. You know I people don't go to the moon with Neil Armstrong and he came back and he. He stopped having a sense of purpose for his life, he had achieved his his only goal or his primary goal, and so then he stopped having something to look forward to, and as a result we went through a deep bender, and became an alcoholic in lost at all, because he was so defined even by a former success. In, so you? You always need something to look forward to something to be striving towards. Separate though for me, who you are your personality and what you want. Seems like those are two different things, but in this conversation they seem to be one and the same. In your personality is how you consistently show up, but I show up differently depending on the circumstance depending I show up with my kids differently than when I show up at a business meeting. I have different personalities. Yeah it's very contextual I. mean there's a a good friend of mine. His name is Andrei Norman and he grew up in the hood of Boston. And you know, he was essentially a thug. He ended up going to prison, but He when he hit his dead bottom, where he realized that his goal was always to be the number one thug, he realized that it was not a worthwhile path, and so he decided to go to Harvard that was ended up happening to be the only school he'd ever heard of. But. It's yeah, that's how you can only choose goals by the way based on what you're exposed to. And that was as far as his exposure was when it came to college, but he questioned his goals because his drive. Your your goals drive your identity. In his case. His goal at the time was to be the number one thug in prison. When he was near completing that, it dawned on him that if he actually got there, what would that say about him? You know and so he then questioned his goal, and then he chose a different goal which then redirected his identity which shaped his behavior. He ultimately ended up spending eight years after he decided, he wanted to go to Harvard. Getting help. He ended up to read and write. He got a mentor he went to therapy, got got in tune with God from his perspective, and then got out of prison, because he chose a new aim which shaped his identity and behavior, and over time changed his personality. The idea that personality isn't permanent. The title implies that the people think it is permanent that correct. Absolutely yet. That's a very traditional view so your messages that you can change who you are. If you want to change who you are. My messages. You'RE GONNA change either way, but you absolutely can change who you are. Absolutely you can even change your view of your past. You can change in. You can give different meanings to former experiences. You don't have to view negative experiences from the past traumatic. You can actually choose to view your password positive light so not only. Is Your personality flexible. Your past is flexible. That's how memory works and so. Yeah, none of in even as you described. You're not going to be the same person in every situation that you're in so. Your personality is different. In its contextual, so yeah, yeah, that's definitely what I'm trying to say. And, there's a lot of good research obviously behind that, but I think there are traditional common views that you are hardwired at birth, or the or that you must discover your true self, and that your personality is only to be understood in your past. In those things aren't actually, they don't have to be true. We're talking about your personality and we're talking with Benjamin Hearty, he's an organizational psychologist and author of the book. Personality isn't permanent. I am happy to tell you that. Stroke of genius is back for season. Three the IPO Education Foundation podcast is a show about intellectual property. Yeah, but it's as far from a patent contract or a law textbook as you can get, it's really interesting. 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You can count on Napa know how. So Benjamin you, said something a couple of minutes ago about how you can only choose based on what you've been exposed to. which if you aren't exposed too much, I mean it seems like that's a limited. Hand that you're playing with. Hugely I mean I can speak with authority on that you know. My wife and I adopted three kids from the foster system. The environment they came from was radically limited. You know their parents were high on drugs. They weren't taken to school. They were in front of a TV all day. They were eating, very. You know when we got them. They had never left their county out in the middle of nowhere South Carolina. And so how could they you know like? How could our son WHO's now? Completely interested in aerospace have chosen that if he didn't even know it existed. And so part of obviously. Growing and better decisions is becoming exposed to different options. You know that's why traveling reading. Learning is helpful trying new things now what the research shows is that usually as people they become progressively less open to new experiences less open to information that contradicts their current worldview We prefer certain surtee instability over time rather than uncertainty and change and difficulty in learning and so. Yeah. I mean they. It is definitely an invitation to try new things. That's why kids learn so fast. You know we have two twins who are eighteen months old? We live in Florida, so we don't want to beautiful girls to drown in our swimming pool or someone else's pool, so we've put them through swimming lessons. Obviously in the beginning of the swimming lessons they hated it. You know being dropped underwater and not knowing what to do, and being scared and figuring out how to swim, but now three or four months later they jump in the pool and you know that type of learning experience. Often people stop putting themselves through such experiences out of choice. When you're a kid, you often have to do so out of necessity. That, that's an interesting way of looking at it that yeah, once you become a grownup, and no one makes you jump in the pool anymore. You're less likely to jump in the pool whether it's a real pool or something else. The brain's wired my friend. The brain is literally a prediction machine, we four memories, and things like that to create stability in our lives, and how I view, it is personality and comfort zone are basically the same thing you know it's what's safe. It's comfortable. It's predictable. You try something new. You're now in a state of uncertainty. Even people who are addicts stay in addictions, even though even when they know the addictions probably killing them because to leave, the addiction would create more uncertainty than to stay. In so. You know, but that's actually where learning is you know from a neuroscience perspective? There's a concept called prediction errors, which is when you incorrectly predicted. What would happen and that's where you learn you know when a child touches a hot stove. They didn't expect that to happen. Definitely didn't enjoy it, but they certainly learned something that changes how they interact with the world, and that's where learning happens, but as you know William James, he's one of the. Basically one of the like he's considered like what's called the Godfather I think of American psychology was back in like the early nineteen hundreds, but he believes that people's personality. STOP DEVELOPING AT AGE thirty. Because at that point, people's lives become so routine. You know they've got their career their job. They've got their narrative about themselves. Their story that they keep saying they stop. Developing really not because they don't have to, not because they can't, but because generally that's society stunts them from growing. Do. You think if you ask people generally. The person you are now is the person you will always be that most people would say yes, no or Gee. I never really thought about it. This is what they would say. According to the research, the questions a little different so I might want to go back and forth with you on this. I like your question. Let me share with you this thought and then we'll, we'll keep going back and forth on this because I really liked questions, but basically Dan. Gilbert, the Harvard psychologist, asks people slightly different questions, but very similar. He asks people. Are you the same person you were ten years ago? Almost, everyone says now. But here's the RUB. says. Do you think you're going to be the same person in years? In most people say yes. So most people acknowledged that they've changed to some degree, or at least from their perception. They've changed in many ways from who they are in the past. The problem is is that we often think that who we are right now is who were always going to be. We overemphasize the present. He calls at the end of his history allusion. It's just the tendency. We have to think that who we are right now is who were always going to be. We don't they get to. We've always been, but we think we are right now. Who are always going to be so? He has a statement for that. He says human beings are works in progress. That mistakenly think they're finished and I think a lot of that has to do with identity that were so definitive with labels we use for ourselves, which then leads us to think that who we are right now is who we're going to be in the future, and we don't project out who we think we're going to be. But to project out who you might be in ten years seems a stab in the dark. It's if I'm going to be a different person that I am now in ten years. It's hard for me now to imagine what those differences will be. There's a lot of research on two subjects. In particular One is decision making the other one's learning, but. Hal Hirschfeld. He's a psychologist at UCLA. He says that When you view your future self as a different person, you can then think about how they would handle situations, versus how you would handle situations. You know on a very simple level I go home from work. I'm exhausted. My Kids WanNA play and I'm tired. my current preference. Sit On my phone and say no thanks. Kids like you guys played without me, but if I think what my future self performing me to do then I could make a different decision in the moment. Learning the same way, you can't actually curate learning. You know you've someone who's done thousands upon thousands of interviews. At some point you decide, you want to be a great interviewer and you've got. You know you correct me if I'm wrong, but. These these thousands of interviews you've done have led you to becoming a great interviewer, but at some point or another. You did want to do that and so this learning that you've gone through to allow you to do was driven by a goal, and that's why I believe you've gotten good at. It is because it was targeted in a direction. so I think it's the first step is just literally thinking about where you WanNa. Go what what would you? What would you like your life to be like in relationship in circumstance in situation, you can think about three years into the future. Obviously having a few yourself even beyond this life from a spiritual perspective. Guides People's decisions here now, so we use the future to shape our behavior, but on a really practical level thinking three to let's just say two to three years in the future. What would you like your life to be? Look like? What would you like to be doing? How would you like your relationships to be? What would you like your daily life to be like taking? Taking the time to imagine it, you know Albert Einstein said imagination more important than knowledge. Imagination actually is the basis of hope you wouldn't hope for something. You can't imagine it, and so imagination is incredibly important. It does get shattered through traumatic experiences, and so it's it's called mental flexibility in a lot of ways you gotta get. It's a skill to develop, but I think journaling. About, it is a good place to start writing about. What you would want pondering on reflecting on it, maybe talking to people about it maybe if you have zero clue what you would want, which I don't think. I think anyone listening this could. It could conceptualize aspects of their life that they would like to see different. They're more happy that they're spending their time in ways. They want to more, but you actually have to define it before you can predict it. and then once you've actually laid out and it's not like it's a one time process you know like. It's a draft drafting a book. It's going to be different as you keep exposing yourself to new things as you go through experiences, as you may have highs and lows as you fail, you're. You'll be able to clarify and better directed, but at least give yourself a direction so that then on a daily basis you can do something in the form of intention towards that. The next step would be honestly just admitting people that that's what you want. Openly acknowledging that there's aspects of your life. You want to see different, or there's something specific you accomplish as for myself when I was a first year graduate student I started time. People I WANNA become professional author. We have a desire as people to be consistent with what we say, and your identity is based on the narrative you tell into rather than telling people over and over about who you are today. Maybe start telling people about who you want your future self to be, and that would lead you to more curated experiences to maybe. Moving in that direction, another obviously big one would be investing money into your future identity investing into your goals whether it be education or experiences were mentoring or learning. Actually investing in that leads to commitment, and it also solidifies your identity that this is something that you're serious about doing. It's really interesting what you said a moment ago. How people behave in their life often based on what they think. Judgment Day will say about them when they die, or you know in the next life very true here yet. Why wait 'til wait till then why not just project out three years and and think about that rather than when you're dead, because we don't know what happens when you're dead, I love. Dang, that's a huge compliment. You can think Hal Hirschfeld at UCLA and Daniel go to Harvard for that one. I like that I never thought of that of and how many people? Either it's because of their religion or Their church teachings of you know you have to leave a a decent life here in order for things to be better in the next life well, not just your future life, not necessarily the next one. It just the future one of this one. I love that it's great. Way In your future south in my opinion is actually way more important than your current self is weird as that sounds because your current self isn't the be all end all you're not human. Beings are works in progress that mistakenly think they're finished so carol duet. She's among the best psychologists who's ever lived. You know hurt. Thinking is influenced more people than. Most people but she's the one who did the growth mindset fixed mindset thing, but she would give students Most of her research was on kids, and she would give them situations that they would all fail. Foreign away like they. Every student would fail and she was just interested in how they would react. And the kid, the kids with the fixed mindset, the kids that viewed themselves as fixed unchangeable when they failed the meaning that they gave to the experience was. I'M DUMB I? Can't get better. This is the end of this for me, And, so they were fully defined by the present, what she actually said is that they were stuck in the tyranny of now. Tyranny of right now, whereas those with the growth mindset, they would fail. Of course they all failed, but the meaning that they gave to the experience was I can get smarter and I'm not there yet. And they were projecting out to their future. They saw themselves on a growth curve, and so what she said is that they got to luxury eight. In the power of yet. It's interesting that we don't think of personality changing much in others when I think of people I know. I don't see them as different people than they were five years ago and yet clearly. Personality is changing. Their personality is changing. My personality is changing, and and your personality is changing and and and I guess how it changes is up to us. Benjamin has been my guest. He's an organizational psychologist, a contributor to ink and psychology today, and he's author of the book personality is in permanent. You'll find a link to his book in the show notes. Thanks for being here Benjamin a my category day. At. macy's safety is our top priority, so we're taking extra precautions for your protection in our stores. Everyone is encouraged to practice social distancing. All colleagues are wearing masks. Hand sanitizer is available for everyone, and we've increased cleaning in high traffic areas plus contact. Free curbside pickup is available at select locations, so you can order online and get most in stock items quickly and easily now at macy's find a store near you at macys dot. com slash stores. Every home has things in needs things that need to be maintained fixed or replaced. 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So there's this philosophy that slow and steady wins. The race that too much speed leads to mistakes that the better way is to take things slow and deliberate. That speed is in fact the enemy to which you would say what? Speed can feel like the enemy and you know. I raced in the Olympics in speed, skiing, and one one hundred and thirty five miles an hour, and you don't win a race. If you're in the state of fear you don't win a race if you're trying to cope or manage the situation. Youth Thrive when you're on top of the situation when you can actually embrace it, and so instead of speed being the enemy. How can we have things faster? How can we? Go anything from automate to make sure we really have a a lifestyle of being able to feel like we're in control and not in chaos. But it does seem to me anyway. Just looking at the people I know that I know very successful people who seem to be very slow and methodical, and nothing rattles them, and they go at their own pace, and they do just fine, and I know other people who can't sit still. They've just got to go. Go Go, and they do pretty well, too. So so isn't it more of kind of what what your? What your personality is. Well. That's the alignment pre, so if I'm very slow and steady wins, the race kind of person and I'm just going to methodically go through then great, but when we start to resist the speed that's going on around us and say well. That's not gonNa work for me or I'm not going to engage in learning how that technology works. Maybe somebody that's very slow and steady delegates the stuff. is going faster and faster. The people that that that dig that kind of thing and so you know it's it's this accountability to step up. and. If the world's going so much faster yet. We're trying to resist along the way you're not a jet. You know one of the the. The profiles in the book. Is the bottle rocket you know I'm from Canada I didn't know what a bottle rocket was until I moved down to Texas and I realized that you light this thing and you first densify everybody in the surrounding. Hey, I'm going to light this thing I. Don't know where it's going to go. And then you light, it goes coach all over the place and people are ducking or whatever, and then what is it? Do it blows up, so that's somebody that's saying I. I'm just GonNa fast well. You know a case in point would have been Dell Dell. Computers was celebrated for how fast they address. The supply chain management got after things, and they took people on Tours, and how fast they did things, but they were really not I'm not identifying with their customer and got stepped on and stepped over by Apple. Because you know, there was the we could go down that rabbit hole, but definitely apple stepped over del, because it wasn't just about. Speed is about that alignment issue? What do people want to want? How do they WANNA feel so? It's not just about speed something. I remember from previous conversation we had. Was the example used in explaining all of this about learning to ride a bike that you can't ride a bike. You can't learn to ride a bike if you don't have speed you. You WanNA balance, but you can balance it without the speed, so talk about that. Well I was teaching. My best is to kind of give you a story in our daughter, our middle daughter, Alex she would be kind of a a bottle rocket of start. She just wanted to go get after it and do it and she got on the bike and was nervous, because it just wasn't staying upright, and kept falling over and Alex you gotTa. You got to speed up you got to. To get some momentum and she her. Our instinct is not the pedal. Our instinct is to get balanced, first and then pedal. That's the human condition. Okay, let me get balanced. Let me get my awareness where I am and then I'm going to start picking up speed while on a bicycle. You gotTa pick up speed. They get the balance and the second. She got that she was ready to quit. And skinnier knees. I don't want to do this about four years old or so five maybe. A sushi picked up speed. The smile came back on face 'cause she got the balance she was looking for, and she turned Daddy Daddy look I got it and Bam reach went right back in the back of the auto. So we. Yeah. Well you know in the age of speed. Yes, we have to pick up speed, but we have to have such awareness of everything around us, and but we can have that balance at speed so much of the talk about everything. speeding-up revolves around technology as if we have no choice that that we just have to have all this technology, and we must have it on all the time, and then we can complain about how we're always on call twenty four set well. Not If you turn it off. Yeah we we have to be so much more deliberate today than we've ever been and I I meditate twice a day and I I started when I was fourteen and I stopped there for awhile and I found that when I take a step back when I turn my phone up when they turn the technology off by my design, and then step back in when I want to things, start to settle into place and start to feel like I have some some of that equanimity back and If we're always on the go and always busy and always complaining about being busy. You're not the architect of your time. You're basically being pushed around by technology. And this isn't easy I mean I was in. I was at a gross. This is years ago when the came out. And! I was visiting the grocery store. And I was standing in line with a bunch of people, and what was new off to the side, there was a self checkout, and nobody was in the self checkout line. Why because they didn't understand the technology and I just re written a fricking book on it. And so I went over I went to I was out of there I went. Wow, and now I had ten extra minutes that I didn't have before and what did I do do I. Do you fill that extra time with more busy work or spent that extra time and Our youngest wanted to keep saying Daddy. We take the dog to the dog park and I thought you know what he by my design. We went to the Dr Dog Park. We took a minute those ten extra minutes that I had and then we did that and so. That's more life balance. That's the balance that we seek by our design, rather than being pushed around by like I, said technology well I've always wondered why. There's this such an emphasis on efficient. We gotta get more done. We've got gotta get more done in less time. For the purpose of what to get more done in less time, and then to take that time you saved and get more done i. mean it does what you just said about going to the dog park. Nobody does that. They just figure out now. I can do more work in that time that I saved which kind of defeats the. Purpose of it. It does I mean I if I'm not much of a math guy in so it took me a while to figure this out that the fact that if we can get more done, so let's say we could get Two things done in an hour. And now with technology. we get ten things done in an hour, but with everything that we need to get done. Let's say there's two more things that. Make more complex if I got two things done an hour before things added to it. That would kinda complicated. Will now if I'm getting ten things done in our. That's forty things that complicated so that's the mathematics of chaos. We end up creating more chaos for sells. It feels good to get more stuff done. Don't we all like that feeling, but when you've added on, you know. Thirty six other things that make it more complex and more complicated. That's the feeling of cast. That's the feeling of being out of control. and. You know if you've ever skied like I have one hundred and thirty five miles an hour. You WanNa cover the basics you wanNA keep it as simple as possible, and so that you get through this race, and you thrive in the State of excellence, rather than even more chaos that you've impacted which leads to. Your in damage control, and then you're out of control, and then it doesn't feel good at all. So! Yeah, we have. We have to be more than ever. We have to be the architect of our own time and be able to how we use our time and be so deliberate and you just just a few simple deliberate decisions of front like I said, keep the cell phone in a different room. Set aside, switch it off, I mean. In some people say well, you know my my boss is expecting to hear me well. Now, we're into the conversation mode or the boundaries and they. This is a boundary after eight PM at night I'm you know I switched my phone off? You know if that's a boundary and everybody understands then we're we're good. If we feel at somebody, else's pushing around our time. Again, we're back into utter control and that's That's a horrible feeling. Yeah it one of the things that that. I think people are afraid of. Their cell phone as you do or turning off their computer as you talk about to meditate, or whatever is that fear that someone's going to try to get them, and then everybody has those people in their life. I tried to text you five minutes ago and I haven't heard back. Well Then, you feel compelled to always be available and I. Agree with you that I don't want people to think that I'm that available and and yeah. Maybe there's a learning a time to people have to learn. Like you after eight, o'clock chances are I'm not going to get Vince and so you learn to live with that. You know if you really talked to anybody that's having issues at work or issues in an at home in their primary relationships, or whatever the first question you need ask is. Are you communicating? Have you communicating communicated boundary. Is this something that you've said or are you just getting increasingly frustrated because? Not only is that one person trying to get a hold of you, but maybe ten or twenty or More and then all of a sudden your life's out of control and you're feeling the chaos and I want to get off. And then that's frustration, and that's not what life's about life's about doing what you love to do with the people you love and and if that's not the case and How deliberate are you going to be about that? It's interesting, too. That sometimes I think people you know how you doing harm. Really busy that it's almost like a badge of honor that like they could really they could turn it all down, but but then they're not as cool as as they. We used to be when they didn't turn it all down. Yeah, it's almost comical. You'LL SIP you. Hire you I'm busy. I'm even busier. It's a competition. It's like I don't think that's the point, but anyways it will. Be the WHO you're talking to the person have that year thing in their ear for their phone and are you talk to me? Are you listening to like? How busy can you possibly be? I know or sitting on a plane when somebody five rows back. Make sure everybody's hearing. This conversation sale for the love of God Charlotte Up. Yeah Well. It's a good lesson I think it's. It's good that people stop and think about it because. It isn't necessarily about slowing down it's. because. You know we're all on the TREADMILL. It's going as fast as it's going. It's dealing with the speed that it's going rather than trying to jump off right learning how to drive in the ages. Speed is the essence of. The human condition today. You know it's a We cannot expect to manage our way to excellence. You just don't manage a situation as expect extrordinary results. So how do we thrive in this rather than just cope and and there's all sorts of ways just start with one thing email for example. You know if you're looking at emails and you're reading two three four times. Are you the architect your time? Are you being deliberate or are you? You know just keeping up and that would be just one thing you know multitasking. There's another one. There's one interruptions frequent email interruptions create a drop in I q two and a half times greater than the drop an Iq from smoking marijuana. I mean you're better off buying a bong an iphone. and. Well, that's not exactly a tip, but you know what I mean. We could really overwhelm ourselves. If we don't manage, let's say interruptions for example will. Why is that interruption happening? What can I do next time to mitigate that and and be more deliberate, yeah? Well as we said at the beginning, things aren't going to slow down anytime soon. So learning to live with and take advantage of the faster speed of life seems like great advice. Vince percent has been my guest. He is author of the New York Times Bestseller, the age of speed and you will find a link to that book in the show notes. Thank you, Vince, Hey, good spending time with you. Have you ever misplaced your keys or your wallet and have no idea where they are. Of course you have everyone has the average person spends at least ten minutes a day looking for things they've misplaced and keys and wallets are at the top of the list. After those items, most of us waste time looking for our car, our shoes, our phone glasses or the remote control. The reason we misplace stuff is usually because we're focused on the next task at hand the reason we can't find them later as because we've changed our state of mind for instance you might be hungry and headed for the kitchen when you put your keys or remote control down. Then when you're no longer hungry and you start to look for your keys. You've lost the Medal Association. 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What You Need To Know In Oncology PT  Part 3

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What You Need To Know In Oncology PT Part 3

"Yeah it's it's awesome. Hey he woke up. This is p.t. Pike asked a podcast physical therapist for missing out on amazing insight remarkable ideas and motivational stories in the world of physical therapy. The best conversations happen at happy hour. Welcome to hours Mr michaela physiotherapists of your podcast hosts for the evening. Please keep your hands and feet inside your domicile until the podcast comes to a full incomplete. Stop show is brought to you and broadcasting live from the medical studios find them at a u. r. e. us medical dot com has a. You are us. Medical dot com leaders in hashtag travel. Physical therapy do what you wanna do where you want to do it. Simple as that as a pt europe. Ta a u. r. e. us medical dot com. Subscribe to the show. It costs zero dollars. It's free you that Split subscribe to it. So you never miss an episode. I tuned spotify. Google podcasts available. Also on all this podcast app stitcher deesor all those different aggregated podcasts. We're all we're on their also video casting on youtube. Facebook and twitter live right now at. Pt podcast on the socials. So if you're watching this live comment below live and your name where you're from what you do if you watching the replay. We want to hear about that to drop. Replay your name. Let us know what you do. Great show for you tonight. This is part three in any multi part series. We have no idea how long this is going to go. Work cited and this started as much as people call twitter and it can be a dumpster. Fire This series really started with a couple of On college physical therapists having a conversation saying there are so many different parts of this of this nisha pt. We need to get this out there. And i literally just chimed in and said okay. Let's do an episode and then we started figuring out. This is not an episode. This multi episode. So this part three. So let's bring in our guests right now to thunderous applause. Let's welcome kelly read. Hey and problem ladies walk around got a pipe in your own crowd noise right because a lot of us are working remotely one hundred percent of the time or porsche. emma time. We're not traveling as much so. I keep a crowd on standby in self esteem throughout the day. But i want to say well. I want to say Ladies thanks so much for taking some time to talk with us tonight thanks for having we get things out of the way. I'm very upfront. The first question always the hardest. What are we drinking. Nellie you're gonna go well. I was running behind so i'm stuck with a blue dolphins night. I like yeah right brain. I am drinking the reasons for afc cancer. Oh look at that. Tying in into the station kentucky word worthy of a broom shock lanka and then last but not least paula. I know. I'm the boring ones. So i got my water right later. When we're done on i'll be doing a with lime doing it in you. Guys game of thrones fans at all so my favorite line. I drink and i know things we put on the back of our official pint. Glass for the show cheers. What you're drinking. It doesn't matter first. Round brought to you by friends. From the owens recovery signs a single source for pt's who were looking for certification in being far far blood flow restriction training Owens worked at center for the intrepid involved in research. Pf so find them. Online at owens recovery science dot com and they have a very indepth. Podcasts always having Journal review on their show. Owens recovery science on i tunes are we got the out of the way. So where are we going to begin first of all. Thank you for coming out again. I mentioned the intro started kind on twitter where we're like. Someone was having a congo. How come knows and understands this. Why don't people get that physical therapists are primed for this and i'll say when pt school. And i graduated in two thousand sixteen which feels like four thousand years ago that we're standing we're in twenty twenty. It was mentioned in pre school. But then as we started to go around. And i interact with someone like this dr leslie wall key and we started going on twitter and interacting. We're like oh my gosh this is. This is more than what we thought. It was so kelly what score on the horrid do introduction so kelly superhero back story. How do you get to hear in your career. So i graduated in two thousand thirteen from mayo and yet like you said. I didn't have a whole lot of training at mayo. We had a little bit here and there And so. I didn't really get a little bit of an internship for a week. On an oncology floor at mayo and i you know. I enjoyed it but is actually started. Neuro graduated went to a neural job and that group wanted to expand their lengthy cancer program. And i was like well. I did one week on an internship. And i kinda liked it so i went through all the training and i just kind of fell in love with it so i've been doing it for the last seven years now. How cool is that though because your license literally allows you to do that. It's like it read about it for several weeks online at home. As long as you're safe therapists but the best part is you're always learning from people in colleagues around you and they are typically in this profession. I've seen super welcoming about. Hey do you have the desire like are you willing to hustle. Got it no knowledge. That's okay which means you know. I went from orthopedic outpatient. Cash-based sports to pediatrics emit. Drop hat and i literally asked to person who hire me. Why did you hire me. And she goes. We had no experience as like right and she goes. You told me bad habits. And i was like oh so i think that our professionals so welcoming in that in that manner which is like kenya you care that those that you pre prerequisites to start off. So i love the rain superhero baxter. Would he got forest. Similar you jimmy. That i actually. I graduated about seventeen years ago. And i thought it was going to be pediatric. Pt and i did do some pediatric physical therapy. And i did outpatient. You had drew haversack on the show. Let's jerusalem he got me hired. I took his job. Did some outpatient stuff then moved into Inpatient and always did some wound with it and then when some of my patients with wounds weren't getting one hundred percent i was like us. Liberty must off and then kinda guide certified that way and then started kind of down the road. More into oncology and other cases. And i work both up in chicago and i also work at my cancer center in tampa. So it's like you don't even have to stay in one location like you can. There's so much you can do. Your degree read. It moved out the country. Are you physically going. Because now we have to ask because right now so i could have. I still can right now So at the time when lockdown was supposed to happen. When we went into lockdown in chicago. I was supposed to go to tamper that week and work and because our cases in chicago were highest in. There really wasn't anything going on in florida they. I couldn't come to the cancer center. Too much of a risk for the patients there With everything going on and so then once it was fine up here in chicago. It wasn't okay in florida. And so that i can travel back and forth and now i it's just you know. How much is it needed to both inpatient and outpatient. So it's kind of a good mix right and you use one of the The the key catch phrases of twenty twenty with everything that's going on. That's kind of how we encapsulated point. Twenty you know with everything going on like you don't know how to like some everything up so we were just do that. I've done that a hundred thousand times in six months. So i like that. That's that's great religious shows the depth and breadth of of physical therapy to be in the same state all time. No like you can design a physical therapist radio host like this does that doesn't make sense. That's what i do but you can do that if there's a need right and if there if you can bring someone information or joy or happiness or motivation like you can you can make a job out of that and i want people to do that. paula would he got for a superhero worry arms. Or first of all you guys make me feel really old. I graduated much longer ago. But anyway i love telling the story about a year after i graduated from physical therapy school. I had wonderful mentors who were always very cognizant of making sure that we offered you know all the different specialty areas and because of that i went to the liberty matric to learn how to treat with edina and i always let telling people that what i did not realize how much Not only how much it would change. My treatment focused that how much it would change my life because i started working with cancer patients and so a long time ago. I started seeing those. You know that Cancer patients with have because they be referred to for treatment of length of dima that they would mention things like difficulty getting in and out of their car going downstairs reaching into their medicine cabinet. You know so. Things like core weaknesses rain emotion deficits in my thought yet. This stuff is being ignored and so again. That was a long time ago. So i've kinda grown along with the whole oncology rehab progression and the the just the Huge explosion of research in exercise. On how much that helps cancer patients and so it's been amazing but it absolutely is just really cool. How it just totally transformed my whole focus on my whole Progression with treatment focus. And then you can do that again. I mean non-paid sponsor of our profession regretting. All of us should be it's brought to you. Perfect you're doing something for a long time and all of a sudden you're like. Hey i just i'm just not as in love with this anymore and i'm very inspired about this. How great is it that our license and our our degree allows us to just learn more than go. Do if that's what you wanna do. So i love that. We'll start with kelly kelly in terms of a pt's role in breast and gynecologic cancer treatment. Talk to us about that. Because i think now we're now we're going very very deep. You know going deeper into the needs of treating patients with cancer with with our profession with physical therapy. Yeah absolutely so kind of you back up the other two talked about. We talked before you as a physical therapist. I think a lot of times a lot of therapists. They hear the word cancer. And you panic a little bit but you step back and look at the impairments. The functional limitations. And it's really everything that you learned so for breast the commons. We are looking at for surgery. We're looking at tightness at cording. We're looking at weakness lymph idioma We're looking at scar tissue fatigue on chemotherapy. She looking at the treatment of chemotherapy. In you're seeing you know fatigue is probably one of the biggest ones. You're seeing peripheral neuropathy Which is causing some imbalance. You're looking at balance. You're looking at loss of muscle mass Changes just weakness in general some cardio changes or decrease tolerance to activity The radiation is. You're going to the next one in. You're looking at radiation fibrosis. Or like that spurred tissue which causes tightness and then shoulder dysfunction scapula dysfunction And the list goes on and on so really for breast. If if you take the word cancer away in some form a little bit and just look at the impairments or limitations. You just have a long list that you gotta get through Tell these individuals so and then Forget logic so. I a lot of Gun logic cancers end up going to public health which is great so i did a little extra training with herman and wallace a couple years ago and did some more specifically for that population so But again it's it's pretty similar to what you would do out of the the the specifically the cancer world or the oncology world. You're looking at pain. You're looking at weakness on. You'll see pelvic floor dysfunction scar tissue or radiation fibrosis externally but also internally feeling comfortable with that so a lot of just general things that you may see on another individual. I'm you just have to have a little understanding of what these individuals are going through the treatment and where the precautions in the safety as with them. Stop you right there. Audience right now listening either. Live or record on the podcast takes nothing else away from tonight's episode just stop. It's that you need to treat these people for what you see is like because because we've said this before again a lot of times myself included if you if you hear someone has cancer you all of a sudden well i don't want to and i'm backing away from the camera. You know for the podcast. Starting back away when you go. Research will show us physical activity and physical therapy interventions will help them but for some i mean. I don't know maybe it's just societal and you know we call it the big c right which is oh man. So as the big seat and it is i. I'm not downplaying devastating and scary and intimidating but as physical therapists will kelly. Just said you need to understand what type of cancer they have what that's going to do what treatment they are where they are in that treatment to know how they might be responding. You're going to be able to test that response. And no what's typical so. This just sounds like being really prepared. I think i think this has been said in past podcast. Big thing with our group is there. Are millions of cancer survivors or those who are going through cancer treatment in every single therapist depending on it doesn't it doesn't matter what area you work in it whether you're Orthopedics you're going to see someone who has gone through cancer in some form and you have to be comfortable in known just kind of meeting where they're at and have an understanding of some of these things like courting you're probably won't see courting a general shoulder orthopedic injury but according is and generally how to treat it at least you can help them where they're at. Yeah be prepared. Be smart be knowledgeable and if you come across something and i was taught this in pediatrics too. Because there's a lot of different things in pediatrics. That i remember someone explained to me either on an intake former in person and me having that poker. Face like yeah. I know exactly what that is. And the entire time i was like. I have no idea what you're talking about but swallow that and go. I need to go find out about that. I needed to go educate myself because this is obviously important. Because i ran into a lot of situations where parents in pediatrics were way more educated about a condition or a treatment or intervention and they had never heard of it. I can't take that personally are gonna say. Hey i i'm going to be better right now. I'm gonna make. I'm gonna make that effort. So i felt that that lesson fits right now as well in terms of saying. Hey be educated to make sure that you know what's going on. yeah. I love that that's great takeaway message all right lift dima. You mentioned that. I feel like that's something that again was mentioned in pt school but pt. Schools meant to make us very very great general safe general practitioner of physical therapy. So you mentioned liberty but becoming involved in cancer treatment we know that Let's dig into that a little bit. You know kinda go into what is it. we'll go macro micro. What is that what you're asking treat. Let's go with treatments. We have chairman dima or go with you know in terms of treatment just because the audience probably knows what it is and if they don't they should educate themselves yeah. So limiting was pretty comment Most common risk is getting lymph nodes or move so you think about cancer. They're looking at biopsy lymph nodes are for some affected lymph. And so what happens when you take him out. Some people will get lymph demanded dysfunctional. Or backup of the lymphatic system. So what we treat it. Well generally we call it the complete decongestant therapy well. It will be bandaging compression. Bandaging it will be exercises to help. Get the muscles pumping with lymph attics. And then we will also do self care. Skin care and manual lymphatic drainage so that light massage may have learned in pd school And then we'll transition to them in some sort of compression stockings or garment or something that they can do to self manage that lymphoma long-term so you'll see it in arms on maybe in the breast for breast cancer gynecologic you'll see either gentle slowing or in the legs and then head neck you'll probably see it more up shop just just understand that. Pt can help. I mean current current research suggests that physical therapy is a gigantic benefit. Even though some other shooters might not think to suggest to see a physical therapist. Yeah so that's one of the big things. I started a instagram youtube channel. Just for some of this. But the reason i started that was for that executives had a woman probably about four or five years ago company from out of state some are more rural and for five years. She had this swollen arm after her breast cancer treatment and she walked into me. Never hearing the word limiting my. She didn't even know what that was. And i don't. I think my jaw dropped in that moment. Probably not most professional but i. I didn't understand like how you could go five years. Seen all these doctors and no one could tell you that you of lymphoma and it was staged three. It was pretty swollen And so i realized that. That's just not common knowledge everywhere. You're not getting a lot of that education from providers doctors. So i was like well i just wanted. Educate everyone just just know what this is so you can reach out to a doctor or find someone who can help you. Yeah yeah this goes into talked about me being a radio. Dj physical therapist not making any sense but knowledge translation right won't even call it like social media right. That's just that's just a way to transmitted from information. Knowledge translation is that is studied among social scientists psychologists. And they're saying what do we know. Well who's we right so who works with patients with nvidia. We know a lot but the general public less but the scary part is other practitioners. Who might be working with those patients. Stage three cancer. She's seen how many providers in that situation dozens right and it was obvious enough that someone would be able to see it right. I mean from your description. Oh she knew. Yeah very obvious. It looked like a small leg on the arm but no one told her what it was right. And the fat there was a disconnect there so you reading an instagram page. A youtube page away to not you know not not just share social media content as we're living thump thum world but really knowledge translation that is sharing the best evidence with people who need it So we make sure we We share that as well in the comments below. People can get hooked up with that. Because i think the more we share the more. We'll all be right if you're creating great content You know i've had. I've had people create youtube accounts or instagram accounts and actually prescribe. You know you need to see video one twenty seven. That's really going to help you instead of having to say. Listen seat on your own time. I could give you a sheet right now or a brochure. But hey listen this is the world we're in. We liked this interactive stuff. Look at episode one twenty seven and then third then do exercises thirty eight sixty to seventy five and they write down at their chinese food order. Great got it and there because that's kind of world we live in which is like on demand on my time so good on you kudos for you. That's worth a hell of for seeing a gap in understanding and filling. So that's fantastic paulo. We to you. Why is it essential to include inpatient education with cancer patients. Why is it essential. I love this question Because i feel that one of the most important things we do with our patients is educate them because knowledge is power. That might sound a little cliche but really can power them to help them along their journey and i know this whole evening just listening to kelly. Talk already that We're gonna we're going to say a lot of the same things because it's what we do but First of all as far as education for cancer patients. I feel like that we all cancer patients that we need to educate them about cancer. related fatigue. cancer related fatigue is the number one side effect of cancer treatment. It just is in almost everyone will experience a and it's multifaceted for so many things contribute to this so if we can explain to them what it is this unrelenting feeling of just being tired all the time then we can help them manage it and we can help them. Do things like Energy conservation or maybe even journaling to figure out what's causing it but most importantly really the number one treatment for cancer related fatigue so We can you know we are physical therapists. So we're movement specialists and so it has to be the ride exercise. What exercises too sedentary patient. That never gets off the couch versus my patient who was a marathon runner and just had surgery is very different and so we are the ones to educate them there. So that's one of the main things. I feel like that. We educate all cancer patients and another thing is Just educating them about side effects of their cancer treatment for example certain chemotherapy drugs caused certain side effects. So for example. Some of them. 'cause chemo deuce personal neuropathy. So maybe they have numbness tingling in their legs or maybe they have it in their hands. in sometimes it's painful but it's in their lower extremities than that causes balance issues so we can address that and we can Reduce the risk of falling. But if it's in the upper extremities then that's affect their adl's Sometimes and and Just getting just everything So another area. That i feel is so important is to teach them About them for dima. So you've already brought that up okay. So and you brought up that yeah it can be treated and it also can be used to be real careful about saying we can reduce your risk. But it's it's not so Outside of the box to say that we really can help prevent it if we see them early enough and i know we'll talk about this. Hope feel a little bit later to about surveillance but we can teach them things That they can do to help prevent it hopefully most of the time but we can definitely help prevent it from progressing if they already you know to have lived fema but most importantly i'm sorry new. Keep going oh. I'll just you know talk. Most importantly you know with all of it. I just i think we have the amazing opportunity to educate our cancer patients that there's something they can do. They don't have to accept the new normal as the new normal but that many of the issues that they might be dealing with can be addressed with physical therapy. And just like you said that. We can address this as kelly mentioned. You know there are over. Seventeen million cancer survivors in the us. So if you're a pt. You're going to see patients that have had or have cancer so the more we know about those side effects in the more we can educate patients about what they're going to be going through the better. They're going to do as they go through it on the screen right now minus me. There's a lot but also listening and watching right now. There's a lot of information you have. This and i usually tell this before we go live usually talk to the guests before we go live. What you have is very valuable. Don't discount that. And i'm gonna say it again because it's really important. What you have is very valuable. Don't discount that. I remember in pc school just seeing patient education as a this type of disciple pathology patient education and i was like this is the throw throwaway. They just include that my professor kathy rogers includes that on every every single pathology. And i'm just like hey it becomes white noise right and then i went to clinicals. That was like oh that should be first and large and bold underline pal sized and neon yellow because that is a major part of what we're able to do so hearing paulin kelly. I mean i always tell people we see these themes emerged without on being on purpose. They start to emerge what you guys know. We all know. And we as in terms of the people in screen the people listening at community as healthcare community as a profession valuable. Let's make sure we make. Let's make sure we don't leave the ball in the one yard line. Let's make sure we deliver that so to hear you. To hear you say that just a warms. The cockles of bihar. 'cause my degree in gets one of the most important things we do. I would say we're going to be their biggest cheerleaders in you know. We may be the only person that gives them that day you that oh there's something you can do for that. So and that and that is on the inspirational end. Right i start. I started off the show by saying you know inspirational stories and then at kelly highlights. The basic end in in terms of basics are always good. Which is somebody walked past that person for several years and didn't mention that there's lymph demon your arm who that you could see it like so inspiration. That's the thing that maybe you can't see when someone's really need a push or a hug. Remember when we used to hug people back in the day hugger motivation. You know virtual put but sometimes it's hey. Has anybody talked to you about about your arm. They're like have. What are we doing about that. Have you ever heard in you know. Kelly mentioned her jaw floor. But that's that should shock us. I don't. I don't want that to shock someone you know a year two years from now. I hope that's are spread and that and that's really what we're having this conversation. It's why kelly creates an instagram and a youtube account as well Poet you serve valence team. The seems very very seems agree. Fbi cia surveillance team that well you know i. There's there's a couple of different ways. I think to talk about this but we should absolutely be part of the healthcare team. The surveillance team that is following up with these cancer patients on an ongoing basis. So for example if we're talking about breast cancer patients said just talking specifically about lips dima but any cancer patient. We should see them at time of diagnosis. Now we don't always have an ideal world right. We don't always get to see these patients right away but if we can and we can get a baseline great. We know that they are going to you know That just as soon as they are diagnosed with cancer that the treatments that they're going to undergo are going to introduce various sequoia and side effects. That are going to affect their function and so the sooner we can treat them the better because early interventions going to help decrease the severity It's going to help prevent impairments along the way If you want to specifically talk about linda dima if you catch it early then you can prevent the secondary tissue damage. It's going to happen if they get like kelly was talking about this stage two or stage. Three where you're like. How did this not addressed. And you know we have come a long way. I think but you know with with seeing patients earlier for sure from when i started a million years ago like we talked about but Definitely the sooner we can start within the better and the more we can prevent secondary damage to their tissues but not just that also with our cancer patients. I'm sorry with any cancer patient because we can be teaching them about some side effects. They might have from a particular chemo drug. Like i said the chemo does peripheral neuropathy so we can make sure that we have their baseline and if we already need to work on some things like balance or range of motion We can do that or before. They have surgery we can. We can teach them things to do. Is to prevent loss of range of motion. Thing about surveillance is win. We see them at regular periods after you know hopefully we can get a baseline before Any treatment starts But that's not always possible but for example if we see them after surgery we see them at regular periods along the way then we become part of that team who also might identify red flags. You know relapses recurrences et cetera. So we're part of that surveillance team in a couple of different ways but as far as physical therapy absolutely in helping to reduce progression of decline and function and further functional loss prevention. That's gotta be the one that really hits us because if you see something that you're saying. Hey if i ever want to say it out loud but if i had seen you six months ago this this might have been might not have been an issue that when it for as a therapist and you really feel that once a kick in the gut right there and we hate when that happens so glad that there are things surveillance teams glad that. Pt's are not only now pets and people on the on the show recently not only in in the conversation but sometimes leading these teams and that has come from pt's proactively speaking out from people in different walks of life in different backgrounds coming into the profession. Which is always good when you can become more diverse Because they bring different skill sets now. Pt's are not only in the conversation. Sometimes they're leaving the conversation. We can sort of direct some of these things. let's see. I wanna talk about exercise guidelines involved in breast cancer and lymphoma does it differ pre and post surgery about that. Well you know. I think it's important to note with as far as breast cancer. Patients exercise guidelines is that they don't need to be afraid to exercise that there's there's plenty of evidence that shows that That exercise is okay and that it does not exacerbate limpet ema So if we're talking about breast cancer patients in that way but for all cancer patients. There is strong evidence for the the protective effect of activity against a lot of cancers colon breast in the mutual kidney. Bladder safa jill stomach. Lots of different cancers and that Even helping reduce risk of recurrence. So i think when we get into that we can even talk about the exercise prescription just a little bit As far as what is recommended by the way. Csm is that Even just three times a week. Thirty minutes sessions for these patients. is beneficial and then a couple of days a week of resistance exercises and that has really been shown like i said not just to help them as they go through their treatment to do better and to heal better but also to help prevent recurrence. So i feel like that's really important but with those with those breast cancer patients limiting patients Exercise has been shown to be safe and effective in. They can Wear their compression sleeve if they need it and again. That's where we come in with the education because exercise isn't just exercise. You know you have to. You have to really have the right exercise prescription. Don't back away make sure you understand what's proper right. There's not you're feeling a this is what we know like what we know. Now in terms of what these Patients should be getting and can and can't get safely right as long as you pay attention to monitor those yellow and red flags Really bring into the conversation why it essential to include what is essential to include patient education with with cancer patients. We cover that sorry wounds. Let's talk about that Cancer in lithium-ion treatment wounds. I did the orange thing in school. And that's about as you wanted to win care. I saw some pictures and heard from that. Were there were smells. And then if greek me out. And i ran away. It's not everybody. I his seven everybody by wound-care. Listen there's a ton of people that have come readies If you can even think when was last anyhow patient that didn't have something going on. I just had one diagnosis. So in thinking about how do these wounds maybe start. Oftentimes there's a comb morbidity that's going on without with whether that'd be diabetes whether it be something autoimmune maybe something with obesity Could be a nutritional issue. Malnutrition is a big one That venus disease something else going on that might be on top of this cancer diagnosis. Usually one of the more typical things that happens Another one is the multiple surgeries. So i'm when you're having cancer treatment in might be that i. They're gonna do a biopsy whether that be a skin biopsy because skin cancer related. And they're doing hunchback cnn. They have to go back into a wide excision later because maybe the melanoma went deeper and then they also have to take out lymph nodes related to that surgery and then there may be other surgical. They might find another tumor somewhere else. So there might be a lot of different surgeries that are happening. That are causing wound after wound. That person's trying to heal from and if they don't have the proper nutrients and other things going on they might not be able to heal from that And scar tissue on top of all of that And then there can be. Things like roma's forming a lot of fluid Oftentimes when you have surgery. They'll have drains put in for a period of time in sometimes if the patient just as having too much outlet the drain. Stay in a little bit longer than that to route for possible infection which can lead to other issues even somebody if they have lymph edina and say they were like the patient. Kelly was talking about in the limb sizes really large. Just the weight of that limb may be pressing against a shoe or a two or anything can cause wound breakdown Right now you might be seeing it with people with their masks on their faces Getting wounds that are you even related to limp. The demore cancer treatment. You might be seeing. You know everything going on with Cove ed You're not just in thinking about the stresses that we might place on them. So if say. I'm working with a patient who has breast cancer. And if i don't physically look at their skin and a saas them i start doing. Maybe some aggressive mobilizations. I might not know that. I'm stretching their skin in a way that they're not gonna tolerate knighthood promoting to his sense to so thinking about things like that. I mentioned before you don't know what the theme is before you start then all imperial Knowing what these pathologies are co morbidity is a brain is bringing in. When's the last time he saw patient with. Just one thing going on right and then knowing what these things can potentially cause and know how to spot it and make sure you are conscious of it. You're mentioning making sure you're looking at the skin. Not just taking their word for it because maybe they don't understand what you're saying. Maybe you're not. You're not using words that they're familiar with but they're just guessing you. Yeah definitely yeah Current pt's current pta's students. How can they arm themselves. How can they become more aware of these topics and these conditions. Because as we've alluded to throughout this show seventeen million is big number. You're going to come across this and you should be asking the should be on. You should be able to get this information from people who walk into your clinic or in your facility. That should be highlighted on an intake form. How can npt's pdas students become more aware of these topics in these conditions. That can be seen in any clinic. What can they do. what would you suggest they become. More armed and forewarned okay. So if we're thinking about on holiday altogether it's redundant that you're gonna say the academy for sure And the students say that surrounding apps. Twitter twitter is amazing. So if you go to any of the apa Kademi sanctions events. That you know. It's not Orthopedics and follow them and then look at who they're following and maybe follow some of those people on. I mean it's the fastest way for meet again articles instead of going down research. Rabbit holes is pulling stuff off of twitter or getting From the academy in relationship to lymph dima there is Lymph dima network dot work. But you can look out. There's lanna i'm that you can also check out. You can just look on any of the academy websites any of the dima on certification places and see if you can find somebody that scott either what we would say is a all t which is a certified lymphoma therapist or a c. Which is a certified edina specialist and see that would be that they've had some additional training one hundred and thirty five hours or more that that might be somebody that you reach out to or see about some of those programming You can even take different online classes. And kinda add them together to get one hundred and thirty five hours to become olympic dima specialist. So it's not something that you have to go to the big course to get. You can just kind of sample of course in see if you like. It's for other wound-care specially Dares now there's the academy on that they have for electrophysiology and wound care and they have a student said and even with within their they're gonna have been ours and they have right now. That's free for everybody that if you look at under they have fresher Task force may have Some handouts related to covid and preventing pressure ulcers pressure injuries in patients. You might be seeing the hospital right now. Others also the american board of wound management. And they have if you look at their continuing ed. They have a whole section of spree classes. spreads for me So lots of lots of good free stuff right now taking advantage of all these different virtual things right now. That's just leaning into your profession right. You mentioned the pta and they've got sections in academies for reason and those are staffed by your colleagues right and that's that's the idea behind that is let's find these people who are super passionate about these area used those networks and those free resources use those things. I mean you might even tell people to listen to a podcast. That could be eerie a resource. That who having a couple of drinks with some colleagues but if you've been here a conference a section or academy event you've known greatest conversations happen over a drink with colleagues at one of those events so great advice all around. I strongly suggest if you're if you're interested if you're still listening. You're nodding along section You know is probably where to go academies within the a pta. And i will give a nod for this. And i do it all the time because i didn't know this as a student when you join a section or academy and the you spend that money right. Make sure you get their value. Join every sig. Because it's free. The cigs are free. No additional charge. Join everyone get on every list-serve get on every free webinar. Take it for a test drive for a year. And then say okay. I'm drawn to this. And maybe not so much this all back out and this way you're making you're getting the best bang for your buck in terms of of information so i love that Ladies a lot of information. I can't aubrey and you mentioned a twitter. Why not this conversation from twitter going to point that out too shabby so so make sure you're following. You're you're seeing other people are sharing on the social networks Information shared. Are you ready to do. We have a traditional show called three questions. You ready for that long. Three questions brought you by our friends from our medical staffing leaders. L. physical therapy find them online at a u. r. e. us medical dot com Let your pt license take you where you wanna go right. And sometimes you can live somewhere and just fly back and forth between chicago and florida where you can't a you are. Us medical dot com. Go there check out what they have to offer you. Our e westmedical dot com. We'll go around the horn clockwise. Kelly operating paula. First question is aware question. Kelly your minneapolis. But where would you want to go if you could just. Hey i'm going to pick up and do a travel senate for like three months. Where would you want to go in the fifty states. Yeah so. I'm definitely in the north it is. Rei cold here. So i will go somewhere warm. Probably something like carolinas sound. Pretty good right now. Something has some beaches but also some mountains and you can drive to vote. That sounds pretty good. All right ambreen. Where you've got carte blanche on maui. I have friends in maui amazing all the time because number one there are positions. There people just think oh hawaii. They're all locked up. James spencer sent me. this is an actual coconut. Did you know you could just warn coconut address. Don't be you can just make someone's address and throw stamps on a coconut. The us postal service will deliver a coconut to your house. You can do new when it showed up by paul. The where you going. If you can go anywhere. I agree with kellyanne going south. So i'm thinking like tennessee. The great the smoky mountains up in the hills and all the trees and yeah maybe treat people out of the cabin or something into action is a what question. What's something you've watched or read or listen to book a movie. Podcast that you think the audience would get value from and just leave. It open ended therapy or whatever value. Any value. Doesn't matter what so i come to this every couple of times a year i would say i go back and watch jimmy vs ninety three espy speech. it's just it's a it's funny but it's motivating and just helps you remember the and things alive whether you have cancer you're down. It's just a good speech. Goes laugh cry and learn if you do one of each those three things. Every day you had a good day i can't even say those words mortal Yea bring good luck following the jimmy. I really love the reach podcast. Best analogy oncology with an exercise physiologist and he brings on all different people from all walks of life. It's really good. Sounds like a future episode to me. Let's get that guy on this show. I love that love sharing good information to share it paula what. What's my what. I'm sorry same question. Okay now definitely so as far as The podcast. I really liked table forty. It's very inspirational. And i like reach as well like aubrey instead. And as far as a book I think i mentioned dr andrew taylor still. He was the Md develop the do program but he It's very inspirational. He talked about that. How important human tech design. How much we all need human touch in that hands on. So i i really liked that to forever highlighting the importance there. I remember the last time. I give someone a hug at this point right at. I'm a hugger. It's killing me and everything's all like earth a third question three questions. We'll go with kelly. I is a who question. Who is someone. The audience should note. No more about open ended gap. So i'm a little biased. But the physical masonry have doctor that i work with each day is dr nancy hutchison. I believe she is on twitter But she's just wonderful Really values physical therapy cancer rehab. And she's just really passionate her patients just absolutely love her they come from all over to see her So she's someone. I would definitely go up in follow on twitter of that. Loving people speak passionately about other people. That inspire them offering. Who's your who've alexandra. Hell she's one of our. There's a few that are double boarded by She was the second class of oncology physical therapist. and she's awesome pelvic floor cert. Yeah i love that. It will just keep going. Yeah paula. what are you gonna remember. May talking about how. I had wonderful mentors from the beginning and the the one who hired me from the beginning and was instrumental in my life and so many other. Pt's i know their lives. Her name is brendan nikolai. She's actually an orthopedic certified specialist that she said to me in my interview. Don't ever get stale. Don't ever get content with where you are. There's more to learn. You can always learn more. And i live by that so lebed that are. That's three questions from our friends at our medical staffing again. You are a us. Medical dot com last thing we do. Is the parting shot. I started doing this. People got real nervous like half not the kind of job just kind of like something short sweet at the end there. So party shot really chance. Last chance for a mic. Drop some leave the audience with brought to you by our friend academy of talking about joining the academy. If you wanna learn the academy of orthopedic physical therapy find them online at ortho. Pt dot org leaders in Orthopedic physical therapy independent study courses. So we'll go around the horn again last chance. What would you leave with the audience of. Pta's and students in in both those areas. kelly. Woody gov for your parting shots. So going into the oncology. Royal my biggest thing i always say. Is they symptoms. These side effects that these individuals are patients going through. They are common but they are not normal and they shouldn't have to live with these long term so common but not normal so focused on that and be educated to know the difference between common but not normal right. Aubrey and partying scott. Time for you got. These patients have come that we can address and Things that are going on with them are definitely things that we have. The skill set four and in terms of wounds. My favorite product is a silver silicone wound. Johnson even get over the counter at any major star. I like that i envisioned. I can still go back to the when you bring up wound-care rate so i like that. You're your parting shot so absolutely always my thing is that physical therapy should be part of the cancer care continuum and we should be involved these patients from the time of diagnosis through end of lights. Because we can help Cancer treatment cancer going through cancer is such a dynamic process so things vary as they go along treatment and we can address those things and we can help them to improve the quality of life and too slow decline and just just to do the best they can do as they go throughout. Yeah i great. 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1192 Samuel E. Cress DDS of Colony Dental and The Center for Craniofacial and Dental Sleep Medicine : Dentistry Uncensored with Howard Farran

Dentistry Uncensored with Howard Farran

1:14:59 hr | 2 years ago

1192 Samuel E. Cress DDS of Colony Dental and The Center for Craniofacial and Dental Sleep Medicine : Dentistry Uncensored with Howard Farran

"It is just a huge honor for me today to be podcast interviewing Samuel e crass DDS, the director of the center for craniofacial and dental sleep medicine, located in Sugarland, Texas. He received his bachelor arts degree from Austin college in Sherman, Texas, he completed his doctor of dental surgery from the university of Texas, health science, Antonio dodger also completed his residency and dental sleep medicine at Tufts University school of dental medicine in Boston, and his residency, and TMD through the American Academy of craniofacial pain. In addition to his practice specializing in dental sleep medicine. TMD cosmetic and full mouth rehabilitation is a clinical instructor where he teaches other Dennis the benefits of airway conscious dentistry, as well as diagnosis and treatment of patients suffering from TMD. He has successfully treated. Oh, essay. Your sleep apnea and TMD patients in two thousand nine is a featured speaker at industry. Conferences, and educational seminars. And he pursues ongoing advanced education in the field of dental sleep medicine TMD, full mouth, reconstruction and currently holds a dual Padden on an appliance for the treatment of say NTM de recently granted FDA clearance. Dr crosses published several articles in the field of dental sleep medicine as presented at the J bioengineering conference in Barcelona Spain. He's a member of the American Academy of dental sleep medicine American Academy current official pain American in Texas dental sociation, the kademi, general dentistry, and the greater Houston dental society. He hasn't been in private practice, and Sugarland Texas for twenty three years. His wife Kimberly, crest MD is the director of TMS serenity center for depression. They show their life with her son, Carter currently attending New Hampshire school in New Hampshire. We just I had the honor to meet you. We're both sleepy sleeping Americans late. We were both. Lecturing at the American sleep and breathing academy conference right here in Scottsdale. I saw you what a couple of weeks ago ago. And, and we got to run into another guy, he's been on the show. David Gergen with Gergen's Ortho lab who has come over my house and done podcast with NFL players sleeping with the NFL David Gergen was the one who started. Convincing the NFL that you put all these money on these million dollar athletes, and they're not sleeping either. So there grinding their teeth a night and he's doing NFL players. The next thing you know, he got the NFL to actually pay for because I mean, imagine imagine if you paid a million dollars year for this great great athlete, and he comes to work and he comes on game day. And he's all tired because he's not even sleeping well, so at Bree, so the. Everybody loved your lecture. Everybody was talking about you, or they hit hit at the American sleep, and breathing and kademi. So, so in all honesty in all fairness disclosure, I, I graduated in eighty seven and they never mentioned sleep one time in my entire curriculum. When did this even become winded? This hit the dental schools. It wasn't there, but it wasn't there, and I was there when did sleep hit dental schools, you know, I'm not really sure about that answer because when I was in dental school, I don't even think we even knew how to spell sleek, and it really was show. I actually got out and it was kinda running around. And now, of course, is the big bus topic is interesting. I spent some time talking to some new graduates are getting out. And again, they have very little exposure to sleep will role with the team world, which kind of prizes me. Because again, when you look at dentistry, comprehensive dentistry, that should be on the forefront that should be number one thing that we look at this, how we exchange oxygen throw nasal and oral cavity. Well, what do they say? You can go three months without food, and maybe a week without water, but only five minutes without oxygen, something like that. I we're all at dicta to air. And so we kinda wanted as much as we can possibly get it. Yeah. So I just think it's absolutely interesting that you go into dentistry, where everything's that's root canals, fillings, crowns, broken to fake. And you're what percent of your practice is sleep, and TMD was interesting, probably, I would say across the board for everyone's practice. It's probably bright out one hundred percent. But when you look at specifically treating does individuals I'm going to say right now currently, I'm a good forty forty five percent treatment of patients with sleep apnea and she 'em over my practice. Now it's not always been like that is been a transition over the past couple of years. But when you become more knowledgeable about the signs and symptoms of individuals who possibly you know suffer from obstructive sleep apnea. You didn't start looking at things a little differently. So your practice does, take a dimensional turn if you would when you start integrating start becoming educated on what to look for, for patients with obstructive, sleep apnea, your dental practice and Sugarland, Texas is calling me dental dot com where where's that name? Come from Coney. So interesting shirts, interesting. So there is Houston is obviously relatively large six million people. And the southwest corner of the outside. The city limits of Houston is area called first colony or tackled Sugarland assemble for Sugarland and the actual developments called of first colony. And so when I was in dental school, I actually built my office building during my senior year in dental school. I don't know how many people would do that, that would recommend it. But anyway, I was trying to come up with a name, and what am I of friends that was in school, as it we're living, I Kali, he instantly said, once you name, colony dental such yet. So that's where that name originally came from. Wow. So is Coney something that is something more interesting? We're in Sugarland Texas, my offices on Sweetwater boulevard. And my last name is crest toothpaste, without achie- at a dentist, while and cotton candy was invented by dentists by dentist absolutely while. So so, you know the thing with podcast is they're all young core. I was selling people send me an Email Howard dental town dot com. Tell me, who you are where you live all that, man, a quarter emerging dental school in the restaurant under thirty. So, so you're, you opened up this big statement that, you know, the sleep should be the, the first thing we don't look at and just like men. I just paid four hundred thousand dollars for dental school, and they didn't mention it so back back up that claim what would you be the first thing than it should look at? Well, you know, we look at. District to my dish reaction restore of component of it. We noticed that their restorations that dealt last a very long time. And lot of stuff happens to be with materials, etc. Etc away. They replace that sort of thing. But you step back and see what really takes the wear and tear wire, we really tearing up our dentistry. You know, the, the number of times that our teachers together throughout the day is minimal, but at nighttime, that's where most of that destruction takes place. And so when you have a bridge, or you have a crown or you have a filling or class five or whatever you want to look at it, but near pops off, etc. Is it truly your technique is at truly of the materials? Is it truly, you know, the, the environment in which that restoration was placed or is it something more bigger than that something beyond us, and will we have learned the world of dentistry in the world sleep medicine? It's actually are. We're trying to protect our airway and their result, something's gotta give, and so our dentistry in our teeth, the ones that take take the brunt in the beating of it, and what? I have learned was kind of interesting. What I've learned integrating dental sleep medicine to the practices. Yes, you can make a very good living at, at integrating that, but were you really perform the best is restored as individuals who have torn their teeth of as a result of the sleep apnea? Once you get the apnea control and you start restoring, these individuals back to the foreign function, which they should been me and you see just nothing. But just all you have to clean them. I mean, it really is people who have gone back and restored of the past, you know, ten years, or so we haven't done a dang thing on them with regards to dentistry. So you think sleep is related to TMD. Oh, well, we were taught in both the residencies programs that they are Korla, there's strong correlation between the two, and if we can get this leap under control, and get the airway passage most of the time, the TM issues, kind of dissipating any angle right now. There's other things that, that trip should not here to debate that what I'm saying is that there's a direct correlation between the two and we see. Historically, my practice at once we get the airway control will we get these people stabilized through different, you know, face to treatment that, yes, sir. TM subsites pre- pretty quickly. Okay. So I'm what your again, focus, these my audience is still in dental kindergarten school, or they just they just graduated. So when they get out of school before they can go do anything they need to figure out, you know almost all the dentistry is on four six year molars, and it's filling or crown on a six year. Molars third gonna do one to dentistry for a couple years out of school is rise. Restorative dentistry related to airway health, again from my practice my experience, once I started integrating, it'll take medicine to answer. The question is, yes, I've done numerous. I mean, ad nauseam number of cases, that are full mouth reconstruction post airway management. And I tell you what it really you see things from a different light and interesting comment you. Just made you said, most of your audience are young individuals who are just until school and really just kind of getting kinda green to start out with if they were taught or if they would look at things through a different lens, not look for a single unit truth to be treat. But starting the very back of the throat, and look at the airway look at the soft tissues, look at the detention, look at the things that have already destroyed, you'll get the clinical signs that the individual actually presents in you say how there's something going on here that we need to look at a little bit closer and what you'll find is it primarily is a sleep disorder issues that need to be addressed in what so skit address, then you're restored a piece, kicks in and your restrictions. Have some some some good life too good longevity on now I am one of the I was born in sixty two. So of course, I don't even have my tonsils adenoids lot of these kids when you said, look back in the throat, a lot of times, they're going to see these really huge swollen tonsils adenoids, like, say when I when I was a little kid, I think. And all five. My scissors had tonsils adenoids taken out is still dealers. You did this you get the ice cream that's the only regime. Actually, my mom, whatever most stressful story choice tells me, she said that they put me under they all she was in the room the whole time still there. And then she had to go to the bathroom, or something. But the, the one minute she laughed that's when I woke up, and then what I want there, I was all cried and all of a sudden, because and I told the she leave me and she promised me that she wouldn't leave. And she loved me. She said, she felt so horrible. But don't you think the tonsil adenoid removal rate is really gone down in the last fifty years was interesting. It's coming a great cycle. In fact, I've parallel myself with an amazing ENT gentleman across the street and you got you, and you do dental sleep mesh, and you've got two parallel yourself with MD's can't do it on your own for best number reasons, primarily. But anyway back, that is the comment of the question that you made was the end of the question is yes, that EDNA and tonsil removal when you and I were going up because you and I are just about a year apart from each other in age that it was. Very common something to do than insurance companies kicked in and it started. Let me that and then ENT star following with regards to. Well, I really don't wanna go through that process of trying to get Admiral tonsil a case, you know, prude for insurance purposes. So it kind of dissipated went away. What's interesting is into the I work with is also boarded in sleep and sees. Thanks for totally different perspective. And so what he sees is his first line treatment is, you know, removing Edwards tonsils and open it these his Airways. And again, you see all the different issues associated with that you see better grades in school. Better behavior less, you know, ADHD issues, etc. Etc. But just giving these kids oxygen exchange by removing two admirals, and tonsil. So I started the pendulum swinging back the other way where now that we're becoming more airway conscious not only on the dental side, the medical side that we are seeing ent were seeing that removal Edwards tonsils of more. I guess thumbs up, you know, a treatment option for sure. I'm another. There's what did he call trigger words where you say certain words, you know, it triggers them into some be like, I'm Irish. So if you say Jameson, I just run out of the room and go dive on the bottle. My oh, functional therapy is about a controversial term as you can get in dentistry. When, when, when someone says orthodontist, I mean, I've had orthodox on this show that just dismiss the word bio functional anyone any part of it. Why is my O functional therapy such a buzzword first of all, explain what it is. And what your views on it, and why is it such trigger-happy word sure is pretty interesting. I haven't incredible scene that then with me by tire career. I just don't have a big turnover and probably, let's say templates years ago by lead, hygienists, and two other came to me in. And brought that buzzword by functional therapy. And, and I'm sitting here thinking, please don't ask me spell it because I would definitely fail that one. But they said, this is something that we're interested in. Would you support it? And I'm like, absolutely, I'm all about educating education. I don't think there's a better place that you can invest your money and your time being your own education. So I stepped up to the plate supported I sent all three of them to New York with Barbara Barbara Green through her her her program, and then two of them took off went back a second time for level two. And then one my lead hygienist took off and went to level three out now lay come. Bag again through their first patient was was me, and I think, personally, it's kinda if you don't mind how like the step side to come back to the mile functional therapy. But what's interesting about me is the only thing I had not done to myself in the world of industry is dangerous and did, I need any that dental work done into the question. Jaw surgery of, you know, everything from full mouth reconstruction to implant to a root canals, etc. The reason I bring that to, to the forefront is put Mara, functional therapy back into it. Most of these orthodontist, or these people who dismissed it or don't really understand it have not gone through it. And if they would sit and go through them as a patient and understand the concept and see the benefits such, then it wouldn't be a, you know, a dismissive, you would. So back to my punctual therapy. We all learn to position our tongues certain way in order speak swallow, etc. Tons of very trainable muscles. And so what I've learned through the process. What I've seen. In my clinical practice is that when you integrate mild functional therapy, train the ton to position it self needs to be when you're finished talking, etc. Etc. You become less weary. You're not quite as tired when it becomes talking or eating or chewing. The other thing that I personally think that everyone should integrate is monks therapy in all of their patients with regards to before they go into Ortho. You see a decrease in relapse, etc cetera. So I'm really sad. When I hear that dentists, especially orthodontist kind of dismiss it because again, if they set through it as patients and actually, went through the treatment and went to the fourteen week program. They would see the benefits and their attitude totally change not you of to site, your I'm for your patience. Your offices colony dental tired about that. You also have another website, Meridian. PM dot US will what all that about. So it's interesting about the murnian, by the way, my website is Sam Chris dot com. Calling you dental was it, but it, it got moved over to impress dot com. I know but if you if you if you go to Sam cross dot com. I it goes, right? Colony dental dot com. Right. So they criss cross. But both of those were my clinical and but the Meridian PM is kind of an interesting story. So when I was six to actually exit dentistry, and go find something to do because I was becoming a little bored in in, I guess, at dinner, she was becoming try it for me, and I got dental sleep medicine. I noticed that or one of the things that you really have to be cautious of when treating patients with OSA using or appliance therapy is team issues if the patients have team issues, you can exacerbated or they don't you can create them, so you have to keep in mind, the complexity in the house of fisticuffs that joint is. So when I did the residency to the ACP we had seven different clinicians. They're who are educated, and they're all great. They're all. I just I think you're all amazing. And you're depair Lil yourself with one that you ranked actually had like their philosophy of you would and through that whole process. I just figured that there. Would be easier way to create an appliance where you could actually hope patients with TM paying issues that being said the gentleman friend of mine by the name of Lamont carpenter. And we created an appliance or he helping engineer appliance for treating him and it's called, and we just named it the Meridian. And so I've gotten a tremendous amount of success with the interesting opponent is, it's very non-conventional. It's an upper appliance, it's made specific by pattern so that we're as we close our jaws jaws forced into specific pattern. So because I did sleep. I went back to Lamont said, hey, or any way, we can create a bottom, or of orthotic, if you would that would work in conjunction with the upper in order to create a sleep appliance in lo and, behold, we were able to it was a very its dorsal design, which is pretty common the number one problem with dorsal designs is the is the lateral fins will will break off during Brooks, etc. And so we created or he created engineered a way of which. That wouldn't happen. And so, that's what created that whole Padan component of it is to how do we keep these, these dorsal wings from fracturing, because patients who actually have an oral plants as the dorsal design, and they become lower rushers, the failure of the Teague. They breaking take away, this patients are really in distress for period of time until they get their appliance back. And so that's what I was seeing in the Sleepworld. And so when I came up with Meridian for TM we added the lower piece of it didn't we said, we'll just call it the marine PM for nighttime and it's been it's been a hit. It's been very predictable. And it's it's, it's Inc. The whole thing happened to happen to be built around my function therapy. So if we could keep the jaw theory behind the whole appliance self moody PM. If we can keep the jaw in a comfortable position for the patient and trying to time to stay Ford opening the airway we've done the same thing that c-pap Stubai blowing air pushing the. Ford or any of the other oral plants with be herbs or any of those types of appliances taps that brings joy Ford pulls a ton Ford opens airway. Don't we just keep everything comfortable position compliance for patients? Make pappy don't put a lot of stress on the TM entering that ton to say Ford. So that's for that whole thing came into with regards the Meridian and the Meridian PM. That is pretty cool because site instead of dot com. It's dot EU us what, what is dot US som-, what would the US but is the is the country code for the United States? Yeah. US any, you, can you can have your own website dot US. You could get that whatever you wanted to provide it's available, but dot US is them saying levels dot com and dot net. So let's see what. Yeah. That that is so cool. So when you when you go to when you go to Meridian PM dot US picture. This says the birdie and PM treats primary snoring. Let's say an associated breathing symptoms. The Murdy PM stabilized the lower jaw maintaining a patent upper airway during sleep decreasing the frequency, and duration of Abney and pot Nick right apnea. And I fought Nick that I say, right, you got right. Vents including responsibly effort related arousal, our yard, a such a storing the Murdy and peon helps an auction exchanging sleep as well as health and social consequences associated was storing now. This is dentistry on censored. So I always try to ask the tough questions. Use this version has if left untreated obstructive, sleep apnea can result and in growing number health problems, including high blood pressure stroke. Diabetes, depression, or art attacks. Right. What would you say that assess our does not its core late? When the every morning, I make coffee. And then the sun comes up me making coffee, did not cause the sun come up. Can you really leave this, too? High blood pressure stroke, diabetes, depression, and heart attacks way into the question of me personally, can Lincoln just a research study, not only in the medical, but also in the digital world inches. The question is, yes, because think about this her second. If you're not getting them out of auction in our bodies appreciated, we'll start shut down parts of it. In order to give areas of other bodies that have or need the oxygen levels required. And as a result, our heart has to work a little bit harder in order circling that blood faster in order to get that oxygen change. She you're basically overworking the heart muscles. And so, again, there's been, you know, ad nauseam amount of literature out there that supports the fact that individuals who have obstructive sleep apnea, do have co morbidity primarily. Cardiovascular disease regarding depression, little, or, or mental illness. If you would depression, more, specifically is that my wife is a psychiatrist? And so she treats patients with what they call TM as trans cranial bag next relation. Said that way, too fast TM stands for what trans cranial magnetic stimulation TM, s and so basically, what that is. It's a dental chair with a magnetic of that comes over the frontal cortex of the brain in the waves go through the frontal cortex increase in into production of serotonin, which is missing individuals who have depression, refectory depression, etc. So before she puts him in treatment, she always has sleep studies done to rule out strict sleep apnea because they go hand in hand with regards to mental illness and depression. And so that's kind of what got me started on this whole arena with regards to that. So, again, there's tons of medical literature, etc. Supports individuals who have strict to sleep apnea also have come abilities of depression as well. Okay. Well, I'm a little slow TM trans cranial magnetic stimulation stimulation. Well, you're on that that is amazing. And you're. Wife is like you know what other Dennis, I know who's mergers, like I just some of the biggest. Who do you know Mark Zuckerberg, Mark Zuckerberg who's son ED's Berg, the Dennis, his son marketing research paper, but he is married to an MD psychiatrist and T-Bone to Rune Agrawal, who was like did so much for dental town and started the townie meeting and all that his wife is a psychiatrist? And there's just a lot of dentist and your wife is, I mean, she she's. I mean her bio, I mean, she she's an amazing person. She even completed a Harvard Medical School in, in this trans cranial magnetic, simulation. When I, I read I thought, what is trans cranial magnetic, simulation, and she learned from Harvard, Medical School that is used. Yeah. Yeah. She was the pioneer spat sixteen plus years ago when it took off. And now, she's part of green tea, and mashed, join them, and as medical director of numerous clinics, he integrator Houston area. Wow. Do does. She I've always asked what I'm having dinner with Ed and his wife's they're always asked. You know, you've been married to a dentist your. I do think Dennis have this more. I when I asked T-Bone wife that I said, do you think Dennis, they always see? Yes. Does your wife? I mean she's married to Dennis. She's runs. Do you think a lot of these dentists have? Depression, anxiety, disorders bipolar disorders mood disorders things like that. Do you think that the same as the general public, or do you think they might have a little more propensity to it? I think they're saying as general public, I think that we may get the triggers or maybe exacerbated a little bit heavier just because our professions are shaved unique within themselves system out of every day grind and pressures and the multitude of hats, that we have to wear throughout the day, creates and cana- can express some, the issues that we have I can't tell you my wife's a little bit unique. The fact that she is talk about we don't talk about our practices, when, when we walk out the door, we're in the same building. So we always kind of tease each other that we do mental and dental in the same building a we want. We don't we don't communicate with regards to practices in patients and so forth. Really can't. And we really haven't had that discussion with regards to middle illness, or depression, or things like that, and the dental wall, although have to tell you little funny story when I got ready to practice twenty seven years ago you to banking, you're asking for loans, and they go, you know, have the highest suicide rate. And I said, I got that coward, America's psychiatrists or were good. But anyway, this kind of humorous, but that all being said it you know, mill illnesses kind of a unique entity within itself, but had had it not been heard had it not been for her in the TMS world more than likely, I wouldn't be sitting here talking to you, because I was going to quit dentistry. I was burned out. I was tired, and she encouraged me to look at the world little medicine, and I ran across shame since Spencer who saved my career, and he had been really good friends ever since we had him on the show. He was an amazing guy. But, you know, the one you know, obviously the men and women who serve. You've that they have twenty six aside today. So when, so when Dennis or saying, we have the highest suicide rate they need to call the United States army. The United States army has the highest suicide rate in the world. It's twenty six people, but I always notice even to this day. When you're we're going to base, I always know, when they're feeling any discomfort, or whatever, because I feel my own breathing change, or my heart rate, or I start filling tents and I and thirty two years. I tried myself. Well, well, if you're if you're feeling tight and all this, that you're reading them, I think when they're laying there asleep, it's totally different when they're laying when they're feeling stress. They're making you and the dental assistant feel this stressing Zaidi. I think that's our. That's what makes be kinda unique specialist because I've set in that chair, not had all procedures done to me, and so the empathy levels pretty high with regards to that. So when a patient's bills that way it doesn't resonate may because I can relate, and I can pick up on those, I guess, signs if you would and helped him walk through it because like I said, I've been through it. So I kind of get that at the same time I really wish that more and more dentists would kind of follow my path if you would my lead in order to put themselves in the in the same world. I've got a couple of just as patients quite frankly, I'm kind of surprised that, you know they they're one of those individuals. Who don't don't walk the talk. When I was getting ready to do the team appliance and making the Meridian PM I have probably twenty twenty plus appliances that are made for me and I have slept with every one of them had sleep studies done with everyone of them. So that I could create the Meridian PM the things I like and don't like about playas bring them all together the point I'm. To make is, I think that digits would go to the next level and integrate themselves into their practice the way that they should be that you probably would see a lot of this stuff that's going on with regards to individuals, especially didn't get burned out. We'll get burned out in our jobs. I'm sure you do from time to time, but it's constantly reinventing yourself that makes things exciting in I always look forward to the next day with regards to what, what, what my practice bring to me. Right. Gosh. I've had ED's Berg up my, I've had dinner with him and Karen, his daughter, Ariel. Who my granddaughter thinks is the from the little mermaid movie or whatever. But hey, I told Karen Berg, and I'm the and it's open to your wife and it's opened a T bunch. Why wouldn't that be cool to get your wife, Karen Zuckerberg, and T bones wife on? But, but it's you ever wants to come on and talk about stress, because I've had all these pranks consultants on the all tell you most of off the record that a lot of dentists who are having really big practice manager problems, their own personal houses known order, and they're always saying, a lot of times feel like we're armchair, psychiatrist and a lot of times you go in there. And if you listen to everyone in the staff, they're just like no. The problem is doc is batch, it crazy. And so when they get these people to let like Dennis burned out. Well, you know, burned out might be some form of depr-. Russian. It might not be because it's filling or crown or root canal all the things you think it is, if your own brain is in, in order is really gonna show up in everything you do in life. I tell people I'd rather have my foot amputated than my brain amputated. I have something go wrong with my finger than my my, my cerebrum, you know. And so it's really tough. But, but so they're young. They just got out of kindergarten. They wanna learn more. There's I mean where do they learn it? I mean, there's the American Academy dental sleep medicine, ADS dot org. There's another one, the American Academy craniofacial pain, AA, CFP dot org. Their sleep apnea dot org. There's ASPCA dot net. I mean I mean making easier for she just got added kindergarten you. She says, what's the first stare up the stairway to get to where you're at the second floor? You know decades. Later. How where where does she start to learn this journey lately? Your Murdy PM if I'm on your website, and I am right now at Murdy and p dot US. How would I even learn the Myrddin PM a plant where do I start right? Well, actually, that's, that's a great question. There's tons of tons of organizations out there teaching or trying to teach other doctors how to integrate or how to expose themselves but this way church, they're trying to expose dentists in new dentists in the area of sleep medicine. And I personally think what's interesting is the way the pro that I take it is very textbook. It's one plus one is two plus two Ford step by step by step in. Unfortunately, I don't see a lot of organizations that do that. A clinical master series, does it and it just it's if you could get if the end at your, your kindergarteners, if you would and I don't use that word that your word. I don't wanna bar that word for me. But anyway, the young. Did this who are getting out dental school, they're interested in integrating or getting more exposure to it? I would look for a course that really taught one plus one two plus two four measure these organizations in meetings will go off on and had individual lectures that lecture component of but really never puts it altogether. Never really connect the dots. I've attended a lot of e in sleep. And again, that's kind of ongoing path if you would or presentation if you would what I see across the board that this will talk about appliances or this one. We'll talk about, you know, screen or this, we'll talk about billing this. We'll talk about in some other component of at and no one ever goes through inputs together step by step process, other than clinical mastery, which I think, is an incredible organization that all being said, if the individuals are really interested in, I would probably start at a local level of you would maybe their local dental society and take a course or two to see into something that they're interested in, I personally. That it should be kind of the forefront. I said earlier, that's podcast. It should be the understanding that airway airway conscious industry is worse all all begins in. If you get that part knowledge base of that part in understanding when you get to the resort phase, you will start seeing how you can make these restorations in your digitally lasts longer than they really should primarily because you've gotten their breeding. Under control. You got in their TM issues out of under control, and basically, giving these people better life that they deserve. And of course, a lot of it does play a role in in patient compliance and impatience understanding and letting them understand the value. What it is that you do. Well, you mentioned clinical mastery series on twice, and I have to hone in on that, because that's on. That's right in my backyard, that's p genetic he and is amazing. White gen- genetic. Yeah, how how's that? So to talk about them again. I'm sure I'm sure. Once we have you talked about it for the rest of the show. So a clinical measure series is organization that I was blessed run across about a year and a half years ago when I met Peter jen-. And when I learned their, their direction and their philosophy and how they make better, Dennis better, dentists by educating him in the level of education that they offer. I said, I got to be part of that group. I want to be part of that group. And so that being said, I was able to bring to the table, if you would my area expertise in the world of doodle sleep medicine and the format in which we presented in and they were very accepting in brought me on as one of the clinical instructors for organization. And so, that's what's really cool about it is they see the value in once you get the sleep under control, you better had in your toolbox, all of the education possible for restorative for cosmetics for all that. Because those do go caned in hand. I've done numerous. Corso numerous Klatt cases. I'm sorry. We're we've gotten individuals who've been diagnosed, we've restored a full mouth recon, and we've gotten their index numbers and their sleep under control will that's where your value that's where your production? That's for your limits come into with regards to that. So I always tell docs primarily season docks that if they're going to integrate dill sleep medicine to the practice. They better make an investment their education with regards to restore it because they don't want that restored of aid, walk out the door, and these are going to do such a great service to the patients because they've already built such a I guess, are sold such value. What they do, like eating these people breathing better getting sleeping better, getting them out of pain. With regards, join now go ahead and stabilize restored, the back their proper form and function. So this kind of we're all of that blends in what's great about the CMS group, is, they do have a whole core of courses from the collision courses to the full mouth forces to. Medic etc. That all fit the pattern of what we were just talking about so zone was learn more. As sleep is your first Goto clinical mastery dot com. I would say, I'm going to be a little bias yet say, yes, because that's where lecturing, I'm a clinical instructor. And so will we talk about is gin is screening, diagnosing excetera step one step two. Step three, so that when you walk away from that two day course there's absolutely no reason whatsoever. You cannot integrate Dila sleep messing your practice come Monday, but be prepared because what you will see is you will start looking at things differently and then have to restore these patients back. What do you get the education to do that is going back to clinical masters learning, you know, ultimate, collision one two three learning full arch full mouth reconstruction, those types of things a team course, all of that are all integrated into the overall package. If you would with regards to it, I'm not going to say on the feeder, the first, but I do believe that once you start looking at things two different lens and you start looking again at the back of the throat, the airway of the. Symptoms. You know, Malam Patty scores the Terai excess Toshi's all of those types of things you then sure seeing things differently. And once you get them under control patients, you built a great reputation with us sold value. What you can bring to them from their overall health when it comes to selling larger cases in order to restore them, it pretty much is a kind of a slam dunk, if you would and I handed all to the component, agenda impede pulled together with regards to the clinical master series, I think Pete is an absolute genius. He basically built dental town for me. I mean when, when I sorted that'll town, he helped me for the first decade and he, he is he he's not, he's not that old. He worked for me. He worked for dental town for ten years. And I mean I it's funny because when he loves you marry Jen started all that stuff and it's just been amazing to watch, but still to this day years years years, we'll say, well, Pete always said, or Pedo is that I mean I, I have so many. Pete, is that I still most of them as I'm so, so grateful that guy when you lecture for them. What, what are you lecturing lecturing on them birdie? And PM. What we do on the lecture, keep in mind, we're not trying to be self serving himself promoting what we're trying to do is specifically, teach individuals how to integrate sleep. So the course is divided. Today's first one is the first day consists of basically the science of sleep screening. You know, the testing, we talk about integration with MD's and how to work all that together than we actually run sleep test with Itamar Itamar is phenomenal company that does the watch PAT's. So they pay as low now. Spiky in Amar anymore. I T I. M. A. R. M. R. M. I. T. I. M A, R, Itamar. Anamar sleep. What they're just typing watch, Pat. W T, C, H PAT, what watch Pat? Okay. And then up so they, they work with us. The docks at first night. Get to do sleep study home sleep study the next day, we go over. We talk about in incorporating or interpreted sleep studies, the docs, get to look at their and then we talk about appliance selection which appliances use. Of course, we do mention the Meridian as, as a appliance option. And we talk about that, and then we also talk about from that point move four talk about case presentations, how you sell the cases what happens when you have things that go great. And what happens when you have things that go wrong. So in my course, my leg show, I give the good the bad and the ugly because you will be faced with one of those three on a daily basis. And so how do you handle that? And the other thing that's really cool about that organization more specifically, I'm gonna say me is that you kind of get me as a mentor of. You would we love to Mitch docks when they have cases issues that sort of thing on my website. If you tended you actually get a pass code we can go in and download all the forms. We don't want you reinvent the wheel. I can't treat every patient. But if I'm able to help you as a dentist treat in Lawrence screen, and treat patients, I personally feel treated those patients as well. And so, I don't want you to spend the time. Reinvent, the while I want you to spend the time learning about or screening patients in, in, in building a reputation if you would to become the sleep Goto, dock with regards to a sleep apnea, you may or may not know that the c-pap cer- kind of losing their their goals gold standard. If you go if you would in the world is of a sleep medicine in so that being said, dentists really need to be on board because the other alternative is a beside surgery is oral points therapy, and Dennis, the unwanted who can make the world plants is so that being said dentist really? I need to embrace dental sleep medicine. Not only from the overall health or comprehensive Dila perspective, but also from the perspective of they're the ones that are going to be the go, choose if you would would individuals either fail c-pap therapy are not even compliant with C paps. So it mar medical out of Israel, that is that is a talks about a medical device, startup providing simple solutions, diagnosing, sleep at me in Arkan's, it Amar, medical publicly, traded medical device company. Developing markets, innovator diagnosing therapy solutions watch patch watch Pat, the company's FDA approved flagship product is used for diagnosing sleep apnea in the home environment. What's Pat, is an easy to use patient Leno turned of so so you're big on on that Ryan there. Several home sleep studies Britt has one Aries has one. There's, there's several of them out there on the market in and always recommend even my lectures. It watch. Pat may not be free you per se, but you need to have some type of component where you can follow up for titrate action, and that sort of thing. And so the one that's been real successful for us. It's been the watch Pat just because of the ease of use low the company jolt bliss, who is the ramp. The dental rap is amazing to work with. And so, you know, he's been very supportive in these. Courses in again. It's not about the product, whether it be the Meridian or the watch pad or, you know, any of the medical building companies. It's about the patient and you need. Some good arm material in your toolbox. When you go after to help treat these patients, and so the focus is really on, on the course is really on integrating it in what can you do to, to help your patients chief, a better lifestyle and better health and better health amazing. So on diddle town. I've been a big fan gear post. A lot of people. I'm sorry, asses of. So crude Rouge should matter. But it absolutely matters. Huge is injured free. Do I have to learn medical insurance? Talk about injuries because money is the question. One is the answer. Right. I love the that money's the question pretty funny. So, you know it is funny is the answer. What's the question? So I know my holiday. I know my home is your like I do. I'm a dull to dental provider. Money's the answer. The question is covered by insurance. Do you take insurance do medical insurance? Talk about that, right? So it's interesting is, is a medical condition, so does fall under these your medical insurance component of it. And, you know, it's, it's really it's a lot simpler than I guess, most people present in fact, that's kind of a flow, chart and the flow chart is first of all, you have medical insurance, and you do you just need to prove a necessity. And so each insurance company usually falls underneath the same category, as far as the check boxes of is it as it be is season deed. If it's all those in. Yes. You, we do provide benefits associated with it, you just need to know what the information is that they're requiring and opposite. You to produce information correctly that being said, you know, you look the individuals do they have at a network benefits or in network benefits in which cattle. Category. Do they fall? So once you go through this, I guess a decision tree if you would if you wouldn't. And finally, you get to the bottom line where there is medical insurance benefits vailable, then the individuals usually move forward with the treatment, and again, it is the medical, you know, again, following the necessity following the Rx for oil plants, etc. If you follow the rules and regulations, and their step-by-step guidelines more than likely you will get benefits with regards to us, we do take insurance, but we don't take assignment so we help individuals filed for their insurance and we do get some reimbursements back from anywhere from next to ten dollars all the way to almost full fare. It's never consistent across the board at all. So it's, it's kind of interesting game, we have one individual in our office, who does nothing. But that on the medical side, not the doodles on the medical side and every day, there's a new story every day. There's an interesting category everyday. There's new caveat that we have to dance around so. It's, it's really interesting when you start integrating medical insurance into your practice. It is a different arena. And there are different companies out there, there's three there's dental writer. There's all these other companies out there that can help you guide you through each each and every one of the steps, if you elect, not to teach yourself, yes, you want to make sure that you do get compensated for the treatment, and it does fall on medical, okay? I've had some sleep people on my podcast before some of the ones, you've mentioned. And some of the flack Email, I got onto downtown was when some people said that anybody who you're treating for TMD should be screened for OSHA and they got him. And then other people said that just crazy crazy crazy. And, but I, I'm gonna tell you the, this Dennis censored, the brutal reality with I'm in a bunch of dental offices or I'm talking to my friends, if they got any kinda grinding or whatever. All they do is see if they're injured. Covers a night guard. And then this isn't comes in takes to they make a night guard. And then three days later, the deliver it, and maybe if you're lucky they might slightly adjust it. But what, what percent of TM d do you think is treated like that in the United States? They owe way too high. But wait how high I'm going to say I'm gonna go probably as high as seventy eighty percent. I mean it's, it's ninety it's ninety percent talk to that guy right now. He's like, yeah, I drew TMD if they if they're grinding or icy app, fractions or teeth were noun. My assistant, we'll go in there, and he'll take an impression and make an guard, and we'll deliver the two or three days at Merle done. That's ninety percent of what's going on. So talk to that guy right now. He's an old guy, you know, talk to that guy. So let's let's pull up the part you said the old guy. So how much of your continuing education component have you invested in? Is that something that you learned way back when back when you treat GM because how I was taught in TM in San Antonio is totally different from why do it now? I believe, standard of care, I believe this should be follow up. I believe that any individual who comes in with TM issues, you can do a quick screening on them to see what really going on. I didn't put a patient on T scan. I also do CBC. We get beam readers to look at the Condor elements of it. We really kind of hone in onto that whole component if you would, and then we look at developing were thought that fits him specifically for what we're going to treat. In addition to that we just don't give it to him, say, see our protocol in the office. We see in twenty four hours she one week and then we see him for weeks, minimum knowing that were on. Call something goes wrong or haywire. We wanna hear about it. We wanna go back, but interesting enough before I do any of that, before I even commit them to an orthopedic. I have a sleep study done since I've been doing this enormous chain years. There's only been two patients who've had TM issues. That we've done sleep studies that come back negative for what does that tell you does it back to the question? You asked me earlier on the podcast is record between the tune. The end of the question is, yes, we see continuously so that being said, I believe that the standards, just me. I believe is that the standard of care for individuals who have TM you really should have a sleep screening to see if say, if it is you wanna treat them appropriately with north thought it for OSHA not unorthodox for comes back negative than odyssey when stream a little more conservatively with, with a TM orthotic, and I think it's all camps philosophies, but when you integrate it, and you do what I've done over the past ten years, you kind of develop your own philosophy. Can you see what works? I really like you the ninety percents that do that. I this just me me personally, just I do not think that there is a there's fairness to the patient in that type of treatment that treatment. Dalli. I think when it comes to TM the, the integration with the patient and really learning the patient and follow him up with an orthotic to get them out of pain, discomfort, where the asleep or team and more to me, as the standard of care. And I don't think personally that there should be any any way all turn it is associated with that. I love the way you called TM a thing I mean can use called temperament TM without putting your day. I put the D on the back of makes you feel better, I believe, ever heard that on this show from you, or are you the only one of heard called the TM? Really? Yeah. But you know what? Because I have a problem with this. You know, if you say TM J, the dentist could all of that. Well, the I don't care what you think. Because all the patients call a TM j it's kind of like the ended on us. Don't want you to call it a root canal. They want you to call in therapy. I'm sorry. But I live in this little place called earth and nobody they all call it a root canal. Same thing crown, an older dentist. Got mad at me because I called it a cap. And he goes what, why would you say that? 'cause I'm in Phoenix. And they come in and say, does that dude gonna need a cap. They don't say is gonna need full coverage restoration, so I liked because sold the TMD versa TM Jay just called TM. I like that. You're, you're the first guy ever heard say that, but, but. Surprising. I'm just saying surprising. So you go on dental town. It's all organized by fifty message word forms, and the very last one is TM via clues in sleep apnea, and I'm looking at some of these posts and one of the questions that was stated some crazy guy named sleep doc, only it was you says, for those of you that have integrated seat medicine of your practice, what is the most common appliance that you prescribe, and why people are talking about their hoops appliance Saamna med herb said, as so answer your own question? Other guy can't Smith talked about who is past president Americans breathe Kennedy's talking about different deals, but I want you to answer your own question downtown for those of you that have integrated dental sleep medicine into your practice. What is the most common appliance that you prescribe and why? Most common appliance, I prescribe is dorsal fin and more specifically obvious Meridian. But the dorsal fin because it gives you freedom of movement. You know, the tap all the other ones herp schism. We're locked in appliances. I also look at the dexterity of the patients it's easier for them to get in and out the only negative that I've seen the past, not with Meridian PM, but in the past is the fracturing of lateral wings there. But that being said that to me is my appliance of choice. My go-to just like anything else if, if you happen to be a runner, people like ACH tissues, people like Nike tennis, shoes, and so forth. You've gotta find an appliance that you're comfortable with and not, not one appliance works on every patient. So you gotta know your patients. You've gotta know what you're treating high tree in class three class to what you know what, what's going on with the cranial facial features, again, to, they have TM issues, etc. Etc. And think the point selection is based upon those those specifics. But once you find something that you like something. That works for you. Stick with it. You know, we all we dentist luck predictability, and we don't like surprises. And so if you happen to have some type of appliance that you use that from sample, the herbs or something of that nature that you use on a regular basis, Neth prob direction. I would go in docile always work. Well, for me, I think it's because that I was introduced to dorsal when I did residency at tufts, and I think that's kind of where my sped off or my affection, or attraction to that appliance system were designed kinda spun off, and I really, really liked it a lot while, you're not gonna believe I answered your own question on that. Did you know that do believe that for a recall? I know I just did it right now. Oh, okay. I'm and guess what? I answered it with. So I just answered your own question by I love on your website, Meridian. PM dot US. You have the PDF file, and it's a you know what I'm talking about. Right. That PDF files. Yeah. So I just I just answered your own question. I said, this is what Samuel cross. Uploaded, your while we turned town, but so more, I'm gonna go back to more sleep questions. And a lot of people are still asking a lot about you talk about the murnian PM a lot of patients are on c-pap. What, what percent of patients? Do you think in America tried see Pat don't like it and should would be more comfortable than aural plans versus what percentage, c-pap people actually like it in one of the Dennis on thread says c-pap intolerance. What's the big deal? I love my c-pap, and then a very search talking about, you know, some people love it. Some people don't like it. So we're you at on this. Well, what, what by c-pap is happily ever after in what Brad said, I'm the try something else I could be totally wrong. But I'd say good ninety five percent is a of all the patients treated for sleep apnea, which has been hundreds and hundreds and hundreds. There's only been shoes that love their c-pap. And so, I think only. Alicia in my practice, but it's interesting is, you know, c-pap you can get some compliance issues associated with it. But the epic see is, is amazing or plans is a little bit of on the converse, you can get compliance, but you have to work again. The efficacy in the end the working part from my perspective. Standard care is follow up titrate ins. We don't want our patients out the door until we get them to right where they need to be. And then once we get them where they need to be there, comfortable. The index numbers are comfortable where we're all satisfied and happy. Then we push them off at six months and see them, six three Carl of their dental patients of mine. They bring your plants when they get their re care, but they're not we call him back every six months, just to see how things are going to do believe that if you're going to get into someone's health at that level that you really the standard of care needs to the dentist to integrate into it, and you alluded to hell Dennis make these TM appliances and just someone takes impressions send him on and. Adjustment. By to me that is not again, standard of care, and is interesting. My really good friend, James Spencer has said to me, numerous times that me as clinician, I go way of beyond treating patients were sleeping TM and more so than anyone that he's, he's, he's aware of. And so I've heard that I've heard that comment numerous times. But again, I think it's just personal preferences philosophies and it's just the way you wanna treat patients in the way that you want to be treated as a patient. So we have four, let's see what we so we have three horses on sleep medicine. We're about to get the fourth one as soon as you may get. Are you are you gonna make us online course? Are you asking? Yes, a Luli. I big thing we have one dental sleep medicine from getting started to billing another one sleep principles of oral plants. What we actually have two courses from berry Glassman. That's really our only guy and then Mark Murphy. But, but I would I would I would love to have a course on their free because again, they come out of school, and they've spent five hundred four hundred thousand dollars on student loans, and they really don't wanna start dropping a ton of money. And so I do this with the paint cancer. I said, you know, you're showing them an ad to go to to go to the pins. You're gonna have to cancel week. They're gonna fly all the way down there, the twitches expensive. That's a big jump to go from. Here's an ad. And now I'm canceling the week and finding hint. So I convinced them to take each one of those weeks and condense each one down to an hour to deacon. Struck the bridge. So she's like, oh, what is this? Pinky continue one then jingo dental town. Watch an hour on it. And then she decides. Yeah, that's that means lots of I wanna go spend a whole week. I, I wish I think you should tell gen gen- gen- Janetti. That's a that's a tongue twister. I think I should do that with the with the your courses for. For for what she's doing? What is the, the collision courses at all? I think it's, it's kinda like this is what it reminds me because I, I took a hundred hours a year for thirty years. I got my masters seven AD L this that, and the, the biggest association looking back thirty two years of predictability. What separates dentists who live happily ever after achieve their goals, and those that are burned out fried miserable. I think the number one core later see the dentist that kept putting. And that's why I'm doing this podcast is that you're commuting to work. You know, hopefully, you know you put enough information in their minds. They start making right decisions. They get happy. They loved that history. And it's all the things like that. But, but yeah. But the, the biggest commercial the biggest asset. Most owners are house sitting there and doing a reverse mortgage instead of just dying and giving your house to your kids, you can sell off your house, and they'll give you an annuity. Because the charge know how long you're gonna live, especially with women. The average American woman lives almost so particularly about nine to eleven months longer than her mother now guys are all of the board because you know they they cars habits. Yeah. The dangerous job might my sons. My, my two oldest sons are cell phone tower welders. They send me pictures, a thousand feet off the ground, and they love it, because they're number one sport was, was rock climbing. And then they found out that nobody will work on a cell phone tower because it's Freddie. But anyway, so so how do they get you to verse out the sixty second commercials, not gonna convince you to sell your damn house? So the whole commercial is just a cell, you to call them up. So they can send you a CD and tell you based on where your house is located what it would be worth. You know what I mean? So they're just starting to start a conversation. I think it was. Our long online, see courses are the best marketing for these institutes in the world because they deconstruct the marketing process into I hear about it. I'll give it an hour. And then our you've got one hour to convince me, she comes spend the weekend with you. All right. So, yeah. So tell Jenin Pete, that Howard Jask enough for a course you online, because sleep it so. It's so tough to it's so tough to go from zero to one hundred miles an hour. You know what I mean? On the set Louis. Yeah, absolutely. So. I want to ask you another brutal hard question. Sleep gun, very bad reputation, right out of the gate in dentistry, because everybody teaching you the course only had one incentive, and that was the Celje five thousand dollar machine to go home and measure patients. So the first thing when ask you is, are these courses about selling machine do they need to buy some, some home sleep device? Did you agree with that, that, that was the beginning of dental sleep medicine dentistry, all the options were selling you? Right. I've heard that numerous times, you know what I think is really great. Especially about clinical mastery is they don't it's not about selling anything. It's about educating. I think that's where you need to find a line yourself with an organization that does not educating. Although we do have, you know, if you happen to want to go down that road then we can definitely give you some experience based on the, the professors, or the, the educators experienced, but back to your question with regards to do you need to buy all that. The answer the questions. No. There are other organizations out there that can do HSE's etcetera etcetera where you can actually funnel, all that out until you get your feet wet. I on hand was a little bit unique. When I got out, I'm, I'm an all or nothing guide always have been. And so, I, I got into all of that to find out, what is it that works best for me with regards to sleep? So yes, you do need to be a little cautious when you sign up for different courses what is their motive what they're trying to sell? What are they trying to get into who's got? What in and that's what I think, is kind of interesting, you've mentioned about the course the course with CNN is it about Maria. No, it's not it's about integrating. And we only mentioned at once. And if you wanna give it a try go forward. If there's something else, you lied, we support that as well, and it's not about trying to, to commercialize or integrate anything into that component of it. And it saddens me when these docs, walk away, thinking they have to spend all this money in order to get into dill sit medicine and spend anything. They just need to get educated backup. They need invest in your education, but they don't have to buy any physical quip in order to do that before. Okay. We mentioned a lot about clinical sleep mastery because we're both in love with peach and his wife Jan. I mean it's great team. And I mean some of the people that team were just unbelievable. But in all in all fairness, I want you to get a second recommendation. So if you had to pick between the American Academy dental sleep medicine, a DSM dot org or the American Academy cranial. Facial AA CFP dot org or the sleep, the American sleep apnea, sociation sleep, apnea dot org, or the final, the ASPCA dot net of those four would be second to clinical sleep mastery about joining us to sure that, that's a difficult question, because they each have their own philosophies, and on the way that they direct things on one, that's or I guess you have to figure out where you belong in that arena of its into all of them association affiliation with the to the three to four that you just mentioned there. And so that being said it would really be tough. I think you have to understand what it is that you want out of an organization in order to become part of that organization. Does that organization feeds you and support you in a manner, which it makes you what you need to be makes you better clinician and so forth. So that would be very difficult to say. I am a member ACP and the AD Assem, but. Tendom. Find out what's going on. Find out what philosophies in direction that you like. And if it Fisher, if it's your personality, okay, we'll the current dancer was a SBA dot net. Because it's right here in Phoenix Arizona, I don't even have to fly. That's what that meant. I totally think the American sleep and breathe academies, the best one, mainly because I can drive there in ten minutes. So all the all those other different cities, you know, they should have been in Phoenix. Well those, those lectures at that meeting couple of weeks ago, the lecturers were really good at fracture. One of the lectures were really a good collection across the board and is pretty pretty awesome. Italian group that I absolutely just just recently just fellow with, is the three, the dill sleep solution group, and so they're, they're amazing too, because they are non agenda. They're non political, and it's just it's just open form, where people can get together and. Exchange ideas, and I was just introduced to them in their meeting in Clearwater, Florida, this past February and Alrighty signed up to be to, to attend again. And I've recently asked to give a presentation there in there, a small form. So it's, it's that's a really good organization. The people I'm developing relationships. Friends with in that group are pretty amazing in all down to earth are all very neutral. So I would probably lean towards that one would probably be my second choice. Now that I've, I've, I've, we've been exposed to all of those that, that would probably be my second choice. So you said the dental services group d s g no DS three the DS three the number three. Oh. Dill. D S three right. Okay, DS three dental and, and Jason tyranny that Agrippa the guys and gals. Jody Jack all those, those people is that dental sleep solutions. DS three idea dental sleep solutions. Okay. Let me see. DS three D S three sleep. Is that them? What website did you say? What I'm sorry. What website did you give for those Diaz? D honestly dot com. I there could be I don't know. Exactly website is. But I just called them DS threes. History's actually, the software of the organization that supports, they're the ones integrate software. That is S three sleep dot com. Yeah. I don't know all their names. But I. Yeah. Guy dros. He's been on the show just a great guy. And, and who's that? Who's the smartest person their whole group one from Phoenix Jason tyranny. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. That, that is a good group. Well, I can't believe we went over an hour by ten minutes. One more controversial deal. The kids out of don't get get confused because you can go to a hundred different root canal lectures. No one talks about a camp, you know what I mean? You take every, I mean, I think the only controversy in pediatric dentistry is silver, Diomede, Floride, otherwise agree collusion. You kinda a designer you're gonna go. See our neuro muscular is slate kind of skeletal skeletal. You will, you're the menu said Tia, that was a new to me, so TM and skeletal, I liked that. It will if someone asked you inclusion are you are you neuro, muscular or CR what would your answer be that your only choices CR CR, but, but skeletons better? But my question was when when I name those four associations, you said all kind of do things differently. But you don't really see that in studying Endo. I mean you don't go to Lincoln course say, well, you know the other ended on us there a different camp. So is is sleep like a clues in that there's a bunch of different camps with a bunch of different philosophies. I don't think there's I think there's camps. I think there's personalities. It's a little bit different twenty amps cancer philosophies, that they're teaching these organizations have different personalities and the personality. Where do you play play? Where do you find yourself at and of those other ones that are out there? The one that just. Recently got exposed to I think that one fits by personality, a little bit better because I'm a little bit more of a free spirit. I got a big personality and they're very open to new ideas, and new concepts and integrating relationships amongst dental sleep dogs. They're very big on that. And that really does resonate with me, personally. So again, I think it's more of a personality in, in, in what you're looking for versus a camp, if you would that's well put because it seemed he was worth so many kids end up their favorite sport, is just because they were supposed to all these different sports. But they really gelled as a specific coach and lightly for me, and an when is an icicle the, the biggest personality in the whole school is the wrestling coach. And he was just like this vortex sucked all these kids and you know what I mean, and I saw I saw that. I mean, someone would be so many people like know Dickerson change your life at all the I or, or gosh on. Or. Dawson. I mean, I have I, I'd say a third of my dentist friends, and I would he Dawson, just change your whole life. So, so that's probably well, it's probably not the science the math, the algebra calculus, but just the personality leading this organization and that fit right you. Right. Because you find someone you like someone you develop a respect for my perfect example, ashamed than spent you develop a respect from you Lert learning your law form, and they're always go to person that if you happen to have an issue, where you need to bounce something off that the, the first person that comes to my mind would be Jameson again. That's an example, just because we met at the at the TDA I set in his election, I sent his, his hands on course that afternoon and I instantly parallel myself with them, and then obviously have taken numerous courses, which actually kind of funny story, my very first lecture that I gave is three D lecture during lecture. I'm sorry. And extended the invitation to him, he showed up. And then he and I've lectured a couple times together. And so there's just a tremendous respect. I have for him. And so as a result of that I learned on a much more open to the communication what, what kind of learned from him, and that sort of thing will, you know, I'm going to close with the the virtues. I asked you is TMD and ACLU's and sleep related. And what I think's very interesting on dental town is the same two guys. Mark Murphy, and berry Glassman who did our sleep medicine online. See courses, also did our TMD courses. I think that is. And then, of course, I think one of the greatest seclusion courts ever is Michael milkers, who did nuts and bolts inclusion, but tell tell all these guys you're, you're mentioning put an hour highlight show on the dental online, see so these kids can find out if you're the coach for them. If your personality does it for them? I mean, I invest your I think you're very charming, handsome, and intelligent, man. Man. And I really enjoyed. No, I'm serious. I think I think what you're doing amazing big fan of you. Big fan of your course. Was there any question that you're wishing? I asked that I wasn't smart enough to ask. I don't think there's a question that are didn't go in with the mindset for question answers. Just more Chit chat back and forth. And I think you've done fantastic job, and I really do enjoy, you know, these these podcasts at you do and so forth. So I don't think there's any specific question that you didn't ask or anything, specifically say you're just trying to find out my ideas, my philosophy my background my journey with regards to the appliances. And then I, I came up with. And so I think that was that's all been covered and was the FDA when you got that Clarence for they just lovely to work with you just recommend them to everyone. Or were they verbiage? Things going to have cheap things monitor money patients patients. But it but yeah, I am not a fan of the FDA because I live in a house where a person had brain cancer and an American company made a medication. But it was under FDA approval and she couldn't get on the trial. So she had to sell her home to me and moved us Scandinavia where she could get the prescription there. And I talked to John McCain about that when he was still alive, and I said, you know, it's one thing for the FDA to say, we don't approve this we don't we don't know enough about it yet. But dude, undying cancer, I I'm not I'm on a different time schedule. I want this drug now. And I don't think you're a patriot. I don't think you're an American when you block an American research, scientists from giving you a drug. When you're only alternates does. And I told John McCain, I wish he'd still do it. You got all these Indian reservations. Will you say okay we'll let them build casinos. They need to have FDA free zone. Right out here. You got mayo clinic all these hospitals and instead of these this crap trying to get on some FDA trial or whatever, but, you know, I may I may be seeing you because four at a you're on interstate fifty nine which goes straight to my four of my five. Grandchildren are in be Ville. So I'm always down there and right down the road. How far are you from be Bill Pryor about an hour and a half? An that's all that is there an hour and a half while, I invite you stop buying take lunch or dinner dependent what time you come through. Why we'll have I got my grandkids? They're they're only could eat chicken nuggets, French fries. So there there's a place for that. You gotta place. Hey, thank you so much for taking our at of your very busy day and sharing it with my homeys Yvette, thank you so much for the opportunity. And in invitation.

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The Hugh Freeze Hospital Bed Episode

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The Hugh Freeze Hospital Bed Episode

"Whoo welcome to the shutdown full cast. Oh y'all all this. We actually have a ridiculous amount of football to talk about for once this the internet's only college ali football podcast. Well actually discuss football the th right right. That's correct like we're gonna if you're if you're listening at home. If you're wondering will this this promise pay off my wages no so just go ahead and mentally markdown roughly what percentage of football non-football you think we'll talk about. This is off awesome. It happened at a football stadium after it happened a from down blow the albury losing all right spencer okay hospital gurney going to sam fine with braille every boy bringing over those sealed ospital records me those read it hospital records a lot of things happening week one but none of them none of them. None of them equalled liberty university. You freeze coaching football from a gurney in the window of the study. Take talk to laugh. I have the same problem. It's just is it. Just that's what it is. He looks like a fucking astronaut. In the photo. Where you see astronaut looking down on earth that was the view at the end of the game for his post-game presser where you can see the tiny little football field in the background and and there's captain and freeze orbiting lonely above earth. You don't even have to change the name where god can't see him. Yeah could be ad astra dead. It got assing it. <hes> same word talk about fathers and sons aw talk about talk about interstellar get worse we're steering into. There's a millionaires milky way joke here but i'm not doing it on into the crevasse. The wormhole god you guys thought that we hit a new low with jerry falwell chain bikini and as usual the truth is worse. We've tunneled under it but but surely shirley hugh freeze just sort of kept a low profile as he sat in hospital bed wearing a visor indoors inside hospital bed while he quote unquote coached liberty football right press boxes are some of the least a._d._a. Accessible spaces. I've ever get a fucking bed in there. I mean at least it was a productive <hes> piece of theater right like liberty scored. Did they score twenty four points or was that the other team that did that knows xeros. Oh so liberty didn't score any points none so so this was all this this whole this whole spectacle this whole engineered uh uh sports entertainment spectacle produce nothing of any value for anyone other than other than <hes> joy joy in general enjoyment which that's what matters most i guess which that's the first that i can say from man from a euphrates dam since i think old miss beat bama. I think this is the first good thing liberties ever did absolutely it. I'm not i'm not saying i know anything and i definitely don't but it has the whole feel of will shit. I told everybody i have cancer so now. I have to shave my head. I just wanted. I just wanted some sympathy from my co. Workers now have to shave goddamn. Head oklahoma scored again. We're <hes> we're recording bearing oklahoma houston <hes> and if if if you didn't see this game you're probably not missing much. Is it thirty five ten now about to be yeah. You know that that's actually that's actually forty five more points than combined liberty sword which is what happened was is jalen hurts <hes> barreling toward the end zone hurdled agai launching himself up into the air up into the atmosphere which is where hugh freeze resides on his magical healing platform. I think liberty should put a put a gurney on the sideline as their turnover trophy. You punish the turnover bernie yeah the maybe turn you over. They put you on it and they flip. You know bed. Sores flip you back over. That's a big third down. Stop come get your catheter. Come flip this three hundred twenty pounder. I the thing that this was tire thing is absurd and ridiculous. What about it well before. We get there right. The entire situation at route is is absurd because this is liberty university openly trying out you know like first of all liberty sco look dude season. Isn't that yeah liberty second the second they hired hugh freeze third her who hired you for jerry falwell junior who else jerry followed mccall. Let's get that in there arrives. He hail killer university that happened on his watch. Yeah several news some which is why like first of all independent of anything in this story when you go. Do you think these people are lying about something. I would say yes because their lips are moving. That's an independent pendant of anything in the here free story when they come out and say anything about their intentions. I would just go out. It's probably the other thing right right but this of course has nothing nothing to do with the restore free suffered a medical crisis of some back probably back yada me sort. Let's go reportedly reportedly hordley. 'cause we're reporters. Yes emil. You've been saying this for so long that i now have other people d._m. Being like hugh freeze through his backout jerkin. It did that same call that independent confirmation. That's two sources awesome jeff scholtz have this on his twitter feed by midnight two sources you freeze its deck and you freeze his hand. There you go. I ah this is like pulling off a scab and you know there's blood but you just keep yanking out it 'cause it's now. There's so many words so close to each other. I don't like these you freeze scabbed it. Do you think at some point during the game because he was in a bed he was tempted tempted to masturbate and then he was like out windows still didn't nobody was watching this game. I'm gonna have a rare defense. If you freeze here if you're just sitting around for global didn't talk about half of all guys sitting in bed for two hours would sort of think once like having reclining box exactly like maybe oh i forgot breath breath fox poop in a bed column you freeze jacking off in the press box should torpedo the concept of coaches reclining in the press box for good. That's what he was doing. When dino vapors gives them the thumbs up from the field and has to go like oh. I brother hand check yeah. That's the youth group buster and thanks for the bye week. We appreciate it. There's one person who suffers in the situation. That's quarterback buckshot jones that is that is liberties quarterback buckshot jones he is <hes>. I believe that came to mind northwestern that you're underselling the name here calvert. I'm sorry bookshop calvert yeah. He's replacing hold big flank whole big flank squat thrust his predecessors <hes> yeah buckshot if go look at his picture you can go buckshot calvert prompt picture and he's not he's. There's jim mcmahon thing going on man with b._y._u. Jim mcmahon not the kinda guy. You think would go b._y._u. Same with buckshot calvert go go look at his prom photos. I'm very sad that his team only scored seven lumpy franken cried calder calder her dear appoints rick cheek warmer like dirk steak face like the mattress beneath you freeze warrior stunk sounded now look man. We're like a u._t._s._a. Kinda guy yes slim chest at the <unk> liberty liberty monster chuck team <music> god. I bet the liberty paintball team awesome jade helm shit like we have never imagined. I bet they suck rich kids. That can't handle that not that rich. There's one group that has not been <hes> interviewed or talk to the media in this whole process and that is the yup. We're the unsung unhurt heroes the liberty assistant coaches i want. I really want somebody to go to like great. Uh-huh see the d._c. and be like hey. How's it feel that you freeze his just going to be up there. You know god damn hospital bed in in a situation where it would be totally understandable if you just coach game that you're probably not going to win anyway. How does how how's that feeling pretty great. Are you excited. I don't know have have you taken a spin through the through the coach's coaching staff and seeing if maybe any of their are overseas have like decades and decades of coaching experience. I believe they're called disciples breath. I particularly enjoyed when this hit the internet that i don't know anybody who i follow read or otherwise otherwise patronize as college football person who presented this straight up right. I don't know anybody who said oh man that. So valiant freezes coaching from a stretcher. The minute came out. It was like one hundred percent like that like the the mildest mildest thing i heard was that's unusual. That's that's the mildest thing i heard well yeah because so many of these findings traditions had to execute lusitania turn after carrying water for his ass all week last week <hes> thanks for that everybody thinks just fading and hue freezes rehab to her. I'm trying to find the one person i saw oh from a slow play. Peter on twitter i find it to <hes> dino dino pointing at coachee up there in the heavens says so much respect to coach freeze all of y'all that are making fun of him or violating hippo laws ause to which i responded citizen's arrest him you coward. That wasn't even my favorite. Thank you first of all but my favorite response sponsor a little bit further down the thread when someone said sir it's spelled kisa sipa yet didn't even get the law right and it's not a yeah i'll walk. Laura like people i know people i know who otherwise might treat this with some degree of some degree now. Nobody bought this fucking nobody but this has normal and i thought for a second that house like this is a great confirmation of my time line. It's been well curated to people who aren't here ear for this <hes> merit batch jesus to shoes bullshit <hes> and now it was actually everybody my regret is that liberty and who freeze didn't go harder into it that he wasn't like in a medically induced coma. Thank you on plenty hard i a- and then and then it halftime he like bursts out of his restraints through auto racing. I can't hit you because you're not here is usually spencer problem bursting. I mean just with the saturday night night. Live like blood jet like loaded up in his wrist like window coating putting the windows of the press box in a just world. This would have been that u._c. Networks first game. Nobody that's the best minute happened. They voted this rocky liberty selling this they are. They invoked ben fucking carson their cell. They're selling it so hard. Even a surgical technique that ladders up to a publicly traded company. I mean that's interesting anyway wild. So what did we refer to it. As griffith graft gripped graft yeah yeah that vastly because we can't tell those two things apart but guess what neither can he frees apparently yeah so that like the minute it happened there like it's like this is amazing. Our coaches like rockies story and everyone on twitter's like you. I wish when in the e._s._p._n. A viewer had started talking. The first thing he said was. Where's pad may know they do not lloyd free jerry talking uh-huh falwell like yeah that's like phrase kneeling and then he gets the big projection and looks up and goes. Hey does this video joe hologram thing. Can you get to the internet. Can you stream on this exactly. I'm just for recruiting. Just ask i will. We'll give you freeze this <hes>. He's not a vain man and yeah jason. I see it common. Stop it. I mean he owns mirrors. He can't bay eh. There's nothing flattering about being interviewed in a hospital bed. There's no your angles are terrible. No abigail adams ask. They know everybody looks. Everybody looks like a four year old hung the phone doing fake on the angle. Title of e._s._p._n.'s broadcasts went in when they went up to his press box on marsh to interview the the angle is pointing right at his chin which is the most interesting part of his face vase because it doesn't exist and it makes them look like you're. I mean not to go back to the hut but it's very it's <hes> it's a deeply unflattering angle. I'm not doing the voice again who houston scored oh. It's quite a salacious krav information. I'm sorry not sorry enough to not do it again. But a little bit of the funniest thing i saw and i can't remember i'm going to find out who did it but they cut. Footage of the aia crowd waving to the children's hospital with with straight to freeze with the window. I would've wished for four touchdowns. I've in a position to make a wish meanwhile bob davie over here having an actual heart. It's echinacea coach all at this theater. Bob davie almost died good job. You freeze taking taking attention away from that. I guess last i heard was expects. Full recovery was was the language to the statement so yeah. That's good that's great. My major regret is that i am now. Confident spencer is going to try to do a full cast live show from a gurney me onstage. That's at least we can if we're willing him. At least i'll show up on time. Maybe that's a great three point. Thank you thank you for planting that. Why didn't they have what did he have a switch but he just sit like because that's what i would do right. There like kraft kraft matic bed ed switch because that's what i would do. Why are you not a millionaire blogger way giving nintendo switch yeah hang up there. Oh i thought you meant like go out in the woods and fit yourself switch for like a spanking time you bednarz when it's yeah you know that seems like a lot of unlandscaped ground for you to cover that would be derek even by the way who on twitter cut. I was fans waving into children's hospital with you. You'll say oh this is disrespectful. Y'all yes yes absolutely right. Is that thing where you go. You can email us at thirty eight. Godfrey are ole miss correspondent because sometimes i i just i just realized what why he freezes doing this. You don't have to wear underwear in a hospital bed. Do everyone can see your but freeze ballin. I'm sorry again. She's so if you don't roll to the side the entirety of liberty would have seen he freezes uses but up there in the sky. You know what else rolled to the side america friend of our savior's tomb. It's a miracle yeah so i i guess in like three days. We'll have twenty. Four points from liberty resented scan. Take a little while. It's going to be a minute on that. Start start to roll the rack aside. He's like a second hang on the noted defensive juggernaut that is syracuse university. This is a dino papers fan show on record as such. Oh yeah yeah but you know five zero points in syracuse game. I'm like oh did they play alabama. Defense isn't isn't really the brand what i'm thinking. This is especially start considering <hes> mack brown out there dazzling all on its name d. no whereas you freezes like d. Yes too much what if d. but too much is so hugh freeze wasn't moving at least most of them. Neither the other other highlight of saturday and the young season so far has also involved people not moving <noise> of course the non moving boy band freeze a member of the non moving boy band. I'm not trying to transition us off this. We're not quite done with you. Receive inclined to treat a good number of listeners like princesses. He is a summertime lover uh-huh and fall and all times but summer is one of them. Some are refrees the mascot of christian girl autumn aspect it remember his thinking about the recruiting calendar like you. You're mostly bringing players to campus on. You know you're not doing many visits to say like tampa appa during summer so i think more of a winner over i that ad has i went to stockholm syndrome with that ad like the third time i saw yeah. Hey students in need to worry less about your high man. I'm more about the highest man of a mall. You know what the name hugh freeze sounds like who freeze and the answer jesus. That's right there. I was like well gee stick kreil speaking speaking of kreil matt brown. I learned yesterday via looking at whatever the hell is happening mack brown space that you can get cry on your face back mexico blue rejuvenate and he's looking at he kind of looks like mason verger in the hannibal movie but without all the blood i would describe describe him as having a p._s. Three graphics face at this point yeah. That's pretty good. I i did ask on twitter if anyone with more experience in plastic surgery than us us a could guess what <hes> what had been done to him in the off season. Am i gonna throw over to reader rob. S who it really inspirational mack brown quote to give some idea well first of all you have to give credit to the ravages of time the played a great game and they're just really outstanding competitor's seriously from like the nose to the chin. He looks like faye dunaway. You can't tell them apart. She's my sister and also my daughter. 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I transition to an actual football football question for y'all so i without thinking i labeled listener in my notes as who gagged best yup. That was a mistake given how what we've been talking about for how much three teams played this week. That just blew a lead in pretty fucking unfortunate fashion. I would like to hear from each of you as to which one you think should feel the most shame we're gonna start with south carolina because we're talking about mack brown with one forty seven georgia state. I don't think they know they they were they were briefly because that's why tennessee at least as as of this this brought as of this recording tennessee's official football twitter account their last tweet is like a field goal to end the raptured think one person anywhere on earth who doesn't know what happened next and slap in the side of their computer. You know blake. Dern thing somewhere in the twitter's been down for a while. I only follow one account. Things busted you. Don't it was okay. It was on a vote god dang. There's a fire logoff all right so south carolina was <hes> was at the u._n._c. thirty with one forty seven left in the third quarter they were up twenty nine and they punted on like four thousand six after that u._n._c. needed seven plays to mount a ninety eight yard touchdown drive and got the two point conversion south carolina had four th and one at their own forty thirty nine they punted again and you win over ninety yards on fourth and one is then u._n._c. went over u._n._c. may made another ninety. He plus yard drive in seven plays to take the lead these there were still eight minutes left in the game and u._s._c. and the gamecocks got the ball three three more times on those drives they called eleven pass plays already. Put this in the top. Whatever if you're not subscribe to the newsletter on those eleven pass plays they got two sacks two picks five incomplete passes a defensive pass interference and one completion for eleven yards to lose the game. That's candidate number. One south carolina blowing twenty to nine lead purdue purdue had a fourteen point lead in the ball early in the fourth fourth quarter and they punted after which they gave up an eleven play seventy four yard touchdown drive pundit again came up an eleven play eighty seven yard touchdown on drive through a pick with less than a minute to play and lost win true freshman walk on kicker brandon talton also he's a scholarship scholarship kicker now kicks a fifty six yard field goal on the last play and nevada won that game last candidate florida state yeah sorry a rope by the way like a fifty six yard shannon yeah fucking crushed at last candidate florida state led by eighteen with four four zero seven left in the second quarter so pretty early still <hes> boise got two field goals before half time and then in the second half they outgained the knowles one hundred and eighty eight to sixty and outscored them seventeen to zero to beat florida state in a game that was supposed to be a neutral site game and got moved to tallahassee because of the hurricane which of those three holly you pick. I which of those three do you think is the one that should cause the most shame and embarrassment. I'm didn't give a serious football answer here. Okay gotta go. I i gotta go and i'm sorry about that but again. I'm gonna polish autumn about stay. Next spencer made a really good point yesterday about missouri missouri has two problems and their massive and pick one either. The talent differential is is what we thought it is and or is what it should be between a program with that kind of resources and a program with the kind of resources that you'll find in wyoming <hes> and they weren't executing which is bad ad or there is no talent differential between missouri and its resources at a program with wyoming resources which one is worse holly reaching for the fourth the fourth item. I didn't put that on this board. Just because missouri like didn't actually hold the lead that long. They didn't really blow the game so much as they like got to altitude the i._r._a. Sorry yeah you have to you're baking so much more complicated the <hes> anyway south carolina but i was trying to look my answer south carolina but spencer is your foaming and i'm trying to save it for his will must yup speech speech because it'll be interesting to see which ones spencer picks little yeah yeah okay. Here's why okay because is this your most talented team both by your own admission and by most everyone else who watches the programs rams estimation yeah. This is your most talented team. Is it the one where you said and i quote well. I have a quarterback yeah. You have a quarterback. Guess what you do with them. You do with them. What people with kids do too nice furniture you ruin. It spilled milk all over it right. Just let somebody color with crayon over that person by the way as you. You're your own child will less jap all right your own irresponsible toddler who will not learn the same lesson that he's been aw over and over and over and over and over and over again which is that your defense will not save you alone. It won't on the forty forty nine with four th and one against the team that was already running down your throat doing whatever they wanted to do. You went out there and you punted. Would you pot. That's cowardice everybody. Everybody knows it. That's not leveraged when you put with everything on the line and your best quarterback jake bentley that's cowardice. You don't repeated. Cowardice is stupidity bullheaded stupidity endless bullheaded stupidity. They're the most shameful loss. You wanna know why okay willie taggart. That's year two stuff. It happens all right. You got a new offense built in right. Let's find your still a work in progress additionally additionally when you talk about shame and a loss right you take like mizzou wyoming for instance okay. There's a really freaky turnovers in there okay. It's a weird wrote game. Things might have been kind of out of shape shape. Yeah that's fine all right the worst loss of them. All is the one that came in year four. When you have no excuses everything set up and you have everything you want and guess what has it changed and guess what you haven't upgraded you you. You're the one who did this. The most shameful off by far also mack brown coached that game like seriously like a man who is forty years older than his one hundred forty two year old self right. This is the his face of a fifty seven year old. I don't know how old he is. Yeah when you ran your head into the same cinderblock walk wall for eight years straight as a head coach with the same results every single time i have no pity when you get your ass fired in october because that's going to happen yeah on the other hand <hes> as of a i think as of march or april of this year will must have by out at south. Carolina atlanta was still eighteen million dollars so well. He knows someone smart then because it's not him if it's him guess what he who knows he's going to be fired. He knows he's must champ where to go. That's great self-awareness jason. I think from doing these in terms of advantages squandered. I think i would go with florida state boise state. I think i would talk about the knowles not just the systemic resources and how they have been applied and how that manifesto fest on the field but also the actual game state and you know the way these things tied together florida state on third down one of twelve despite having one of the most talented wanted rosters in the country everywhere except for a few positions that are relevant to third downs boise state ten of nineteen pretty good florida state had to fifty yard gains and a seventy five yard gain and still lost. Here's a big reason they suffered eleven tackles for loss on sixty two snaps like this all or nothing ask offense that like you know if they can get the ball out of the backfield sure somebody'll take it but they probably can't <hes> <hes> you know and on the other side of the ball yeah you can at their quarterback and at the quarterback constantly he doesn't matter. He's got his brothers names. What are they tiger and bear and berl buck the other one had this tiger buck and bear yeah yeah what the fuck you're gonna do with that florida state all you're creating stars. You can't handle that shit so i mean it's funny like these programs sort of came from similar trajectories boise state in florida state. You know if you look at where florida's day was for the majority of college football history three in boise state up until only about twenty thirty years ago yet. Florida has the advantage of being florida and power conference approval and the whole first half of this game none of those things matter also. They moved it from jacksonville. Can you imagine if you apply the jacksonville. Bill tax on this jacksonville bought myer by the way was slain in that game. Just he's going to be really really really <unk>. Date did everything they could to be an accomplice to him right and stealing the game from them but he hit like a he hit a third and fourteen. I wanna i wanna say on that crucial last drive over coverage for a first down that ultimately ended up being the winning drive yet these these nails. He's a terrifying bisley speaking of flames all morning the liberty flames james spencer hall how many <hes> group of five teams did or non power teams. I should say power conference teams. How many non power argh. I'm afraid to look at you right now. I know it's i all everything i would like to know yet at eleven fifty six a._m. Tom rush roberts. Our friend over at goodwill hunting said holly is this foreshadowing pointing to a story of a vol navy boat burning and sinking in the river next to the stadium and i said i don't know if i call it that and i i texted this to my former roommate at u._t. And she goes yeah that's just shadowing and that was that was at eleven fifty six. I am and what happened next. The answer may surprise you. It didn't surprisingly but it makes you <hes> so i'm looking at a list of tennessee head coaches sensible former one who somehow somehow forgotten that brady hoke is technically on this list oh into yeah that's fun. Oh i wish i had still forgotten lane. Kiffin derek dooley butch jones combined. How many games did they lose. They lost <unk>. You know their fair share of games to non power conference teams gosh ryan. I don't know the answer is zero. You'll note that also losing to wyoming got phil fulmer fired. If you'll remember that's right in his final in his final year as head coach tennessee or is your life. Shore is funny sometimes yeah. If as i as i said in my tweets this is really funny because this this is fucking up fulmer plan to replace a godfrey are actually in an argument right now. Among our various sources over what's going to happen i because i i have heard that jim chaney is going to be the interim and god for his not <hes> and so we're trying to figure out who has heard what in that situation but yeah <hes> fulmer wants to go barry alvarez. This is not a secret to anyone in the problem now is that i think they have to speed up the timetable to a speed that he was not prepared the do because i didn't even think he knew it was of this babs fast. I was born into the week between florida and georgia <hes> because there's a there's a by between that week four game florida employing georgia as the as the lifetime but i also thought this might not happen until the original fulltime is going to be next year so long sangari pruitt lost lost a home opener to georgia state team that all of us saw half of their wins last year because we went to one game. This is a georgia state team that went to and ten last year rolled rolled into knoxville. These are real numbers. They went ten of seventeen on third down. They held tennessee to thr- three yards per rush and less than one hundred yards rushing overall. They won the turnover battle three to one. They held the ball. Long slightly longer than in tennessee did not basically about pro even like on paper on paper. I would venture to say if bill were and may he rest in peace in e._s._p._n. Heaven if bill we're looking at this game and saying who should win this. It's probably still tennessee but that's not who did win this game. It's not a it's not a game that should have been particularly close based on where you thought tennessee was in there <hes> in their growth curve but you know tumors grow to salvia. This is to be clear this is this is good news for the health south of the program sort of because it means that this staff <hes> who i would like to place onto a burning boat with the exception of jim chaney this staff breath is closer to being all swept out the door. The problem is picking who comes in next phil fulmer who quit recruiting when nick sabin even set foot in his backyard phil fulmer who has not had an original idea in his little noggin since two thousand four but you know nick sabin isn't going to be your problem for him anymore so i don't see why that should be an issue going forward <hes> full farmers back and he is the unkillable church but he is the stay i puffed marshmallow man in a church hat and he is the former my nightmares and that is why i continue to operate on a policy established in december of twenty sixteen <hes> with my friends back home we made a pact just like the kids in dairy and for a lot of the same reasons when they packed to float load above tennessee football we offload up here what does the what what does tennessee football concern to a lonely red balloon trying to lure child new a sewer nothing my favorite stat from this game in a game against gore nope the score. It's miss spencer spencer where we're not even blood. I will equalize you how many times did tennessee punt in this game that they lost thirty eight to thirty once once one time call call him dairy alvarez 'cause fill fall about come down makes cheese y'all in his pants. This was just man. I think think it occurred to be late yesterday. After being mad at people be like ooh committee chair holly like i'm going to be in the floor and fetal crying of tennessee football came hover fucker. I was at the fiesta bowl. Do you think you can hurt me <hes> but allies at the end of the day that it may be says something about me that the angriest you can make me is ask me rose tennessee getaway. Two dogs take care bye no anyway. This is great because it means that i i don't even have the slightest obligation pantages the steam for the rest of the year and thrilled tennessee football that route that raccoon bit me and my blood is sick. This is carol swisher. 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How is georgia feeling this point because on the one hand like everybody in the east has looked just like they took care of vanderbilt easily the florida <unk> forms well when they have a big lead and high stakes had nothing should get in their way. That's usually when things go real well for them so i'd be fine so george is going to win the east right. This is true. There's no drama here. We're looking ahead past the east right. Look into the playoffs right wildcats. Mike kroger brand wildcats said say kentucky finishes second is it comes down to the wire. The foremost likely playoff teams right georgia rival clemson quarterback by trevor lawrence of georgia georgia owner georgia owner alabama ohio state quarterbacked by former majorca quarterback justin fields who played very well in oklahoma jalen hurts who also owns georgia so there's your playoff field georgia are you can win the east. All you want at the end you can win. These all you want and you still want to just watch zook commended win like turn embarrassing awesome. I walk. Hey hey we'll see the nata. Conference game has it what kentucky to stagger against toledo then come back and just mowed down motown some people that they should and went all very with my money. That's not usually a problem kentucky now that that was twenty four twenty fourteen indiana route right the thing i want most for kentucky is i want them to win at least two of their games. It's on like a blown call more like an obvious like an obvious missed. Call something like that or we don't cover somebody like they beat us again again. Because we don't cover taryn about god. How do you like that but speaking of took by the way one note on them. At one point they were kind of going back and forth with toledo and somebody you know complained about kentucky going on man regression. I mean they're struggling with toledo all right y'all one. Let's just let's just put everybody in check here. Just take this w._n._b._a. Happy with it because you're not that far away from being kentucky. You're not be happy. Strilly you'd be you kick toledo's asked by fourteen points. That's over a mac teen kentucky in the past the struggled more mightily teams that play in this wack. Don't don't get don't get to like don't get to yourself on this. Don't kentucky take beheshti signed afford you beat last year and who has now after week one and watching other teams struggle absolutely thrilled with a close and ugly win over the university if miami we're awesome. Shall we talk about auburn jesus. We have spent a lotta time in church tonight. Let me let me here's here's where i'm at. I watch most of the auburn oregon game i don't i still cannot i tell you if auburn is good or not. I can't tell you that i didn't learn anything. I think i know less is auburn. Goodness perfect out what breath when was the last time we have known whether auburn is good or bad the rosebowl may may. I mean even that game always like oh. They're good now. They're just stealing signs. They're yeah they're here because two of the the most improbable bounces in the history of sports. It's impossible to determine whether they are good bad here. Dead right heard them referred to has trojans team which is a very good way to think about auburn and any spot. I would <hes> and i'm torn because this is oh you guys wanna close tight game came against a pack twelve team. That really doesn't match up well at the line over the long haul with an s._e._c. team because back terrell teams not quite as much fatness is on the line. That's why i keep saying auburn's fatness big advantage in any game. They're playing outside of the s._e._c. They're gonna lean on you and eventually you'll go fat sweaty sweaty guy. I really just want to get away from what if i fell to the ground. Just let them run over. That'd be much easier than what i'm doing. What am i ask the stewardess to give me a new seat. Yes i would like to take a seat over here on the loss column and you can take the one in the win column and then i'm no longer this warm and uncomfortable. That's that's what happens when you play you know. Big fat offered their fatness. Just eventually wears you down and their winters for it right like auburn in this game that they've had this game before right. We've seen it. Does it mean the same thing as auburn's win. What was it over washington last year yeah yeah. Does it mean the same absolutely not do. I know what it means. Oh no no no no ryan's right. It's completely opaque. Whether whether this is good or bad i do know this bonex bonex through game winning tedious a freshman that somebody who i believe will be the most unfortunate type of quarterback for me to watch. I e someone who will probably do the same to beat my team and then throw nine interceptions the next week and look completely mortal. That kind of seems like that's what's gonna can happen because he threw two cds and also threw two interceptions so that just figure that he's going to be that kind of dude. He's going to put up with some amazing stat lines where you're going to be like wait. He went six thirty and the on again thirty three touchdowns. Something's with the franchise are completely unpredictable. Addictive and some things are completely predictable. This is one of those completely predictable unpredictable things where we won't know who shows up right lumo fortunately as we learned from stephen godfrey <hes> last week auburn is a bedrock stable <hes> group of group of individuals who financially responsible who are all pulling in the same direction and jeff have a bead on where they want the future of this program to go and who they want to lead that hugh freezes pulling in the same direction. Tell them cut it. I know he bleed out some coaching from the stretcher again again. He's enough of stretcher exactly can i can. I share with us. Please mathis so first of all. Do we know the national leader in completion percentage with twenty five or more throws right now as i say this i i know but i want. I want to let you say it. My darling son joe borough completing eighty five percent of his throws five touchdowns no interceptions all against a team that won on ten games last year by the way haters. You're sick right now because this is his fifth straight game completing at least sixty two percent heismans heismans heisman soon come. Can't we trick the dolphins into drafting joe borough. We won't don't even have to trick a man seriously. We could throw that hook out there with a cheeto on it. They're going to hit these numbers these l._s._u. You lazy not take him second overall next stat on the board hollywood. You know the nations leading rusher right. Now i ask you because it is your <hes> your your precious adopted nephew chuba hubbard two hundred twenty one yards. It's cheaper hopper hopper to hover to also thrilled. Oklahoma state put up over five hundred yards of offense in their first game with the offensive coordinator from princeton. They're going to be super fun to watch <hes> in this third well. Let's see here's another quick. One of the longest play northwestern western stanford was a twenty five year twenty eight yard kickoff return on those plays. You can do nothing and get twenty five yards. What is the <hes> whole hope you have this the drive handy where they what's the where they had like a fourteen play drive that ended in a punt. I not making that it was and i always say i think it was for like thirty nine yards. I don't think you're right yeah. I don't think it went very far at all but it was just like the sheer. The sheer number of possible plays all right so so where are you eleven planes forty seven yards eight minutes and forty seconds of clock doc. It's started at the nineteen it at the northwestern thirty four. They punted they just want to. I want a met on that dr look. How is that any different from like playing around a golf. You're just enjoying a nice day. Walking around outside the minute they had to punt. I would really have wanted david shaw drop his pants right on the sideline coaches do that these days so we hear i can hear it. Sometimes so here's here's kind of an involved stat all right. This is when take some twists and turns so the defense that best shut down a power five offense to this point in the season and he guesses <music> held syracuse the twenty four points so yeah mere twenty four yeah so memphis allowed allowed only three hundred yards down for the entire state and the best football team in the mid south is of course memphis allowing three point with regard replayed ole miss. Do you know do you know the saddest part of that game. That memphis doesn't respect old enough to fight them. I know i what is this rivalry become. I mean like meme memphis. Look you're not worth it. What anyone in anything and again we football game disgusting. They're also they're also good rumors hours of <hes> almost starting quarterback either fighting or jawing with or whatever matt luke after the game so everything make skill and great knocks for guys did you. This is the most fans i know like the quickness with which they immediately surrendered any optimism about the season. I was already. Were just like yeah you guys are role models uh-huh light like seriously like they they thin slice so efficiently like they took two sips of old mrs batch for this year. Now that's gonna make me blind. Y'all drink that stuff which once again i recommend floating above your football team leading its actions actions occur and doing nothing to either advance or harm them yeah i was. I was an all y'all if you're an old miss fan and you're listening to this. The efficiency officiency was just breathtaking well. We suck done school jack jack. Oh oh this shuttles about to blow a jack. I know injecting on the runway right like right. It's it's all the red wave like walking to the spatial other like action aid go work respect the fuckers not gonna fly look at it respect on this fans to for being a people who are forced most of the time to pretend they don't drink while maintaining a constant awareness of what is and is not methanol in what they're being handed a line. I don't know i don't know about the shot. My pastor made holy water. Yeah the holes in your softness so ole messed the university where everybody was happy to be getting rid of offense coordinator phil longo remember this. He went two for two in leading top ten offenses. He was there two two years. They had two top ten offenses. I don't quite know what the <hes> the the communication problem here was. Apparently it just wasn't cut out for the s._e._c. 'cause they're all very happy about it. He of course went to north carolina the matt league way yeah. It's so so phil left the f._c._c. and somehow has more s._e._c. right so so u._n._c. and weak one. They put up a six point. I four yards per play which is number nine in the country against the p five with true freshman quarterback with the number three best passer rating against the p five. Meanwhile ole miss had had the number three worst passer rating by p five despite having a higher rated quarterback. Who's fighting this coacher in any of y'all watch any of the mismatch this game. Oh yeah the whole thing seriously that offensive line at several times and i'm sure this is a matter of coaching position not of effort okay but on several occasions several locations their guards and tackles trying to defend the quarterback looked like me against a memphis defensive lineman. They just looked like they look like they did not want to play football anymore. They look like they wanted to be somewhere else doing anything else other than memphis paradise. I can't imagine it. Can i give you a prediction by the way they didn't fight memphis right. The team is quarterback by matt corral who feisty right he might be. He might be who kirk herbstreet might call him a character dr right and they didn't fight this week. You know the play next week arkansas. You try to tell me there's not gonna be a fight that game five months. Do they have any fight at all didn't know they did they did. They didn't want memphis that i think the distinction here is memphis. Office wants to win while arkansas wants to drag you into four overtimes at that point you gotta fight brand-new arkansas listeners. It's not me this week right. We made like art for anyone who misses we made like arkansas sports talk radio or whatever for like one one of the mildest things we've ever said mostly in praise of their weird statutes is really funny because rounds like arkansas s._p._n. Affiliate picks up and then i noticed absolutely four lakes when i get when i get arrested for walking over the wall through the water and onto the statue to hug the hogs on the massive statue in fayetteville. Yes don't doubt my love arkansas. I'll go. I'll go. I'll go to jail. Hug that iron hog. I wanna see see first of all that evening to the out of context splitter count it only. I'm going to smoke out. There's a lot to choose from this week spencer. I wanna see see if they will let you and me camp out under the hug statute. Just get sleeping bags and sleep. I will do it. I'll do it if they'll let us. I will totally do is just got to be below eighty degrees. That's that's fine. That's my only thing the condition. I have their temperature not sleeping on your a. You're going to wake up with a funeral pyre built around you. Ask is my real concern. Louder just cooking. I have your stuff sure yeah. I there's gonna be a fight next week. That's an old mrs definitely like open their delayed and that would be that'd be the only time they really hit that was going to at least begin it yet not losing the tailgate though y'all tailgate letters later seized by feds i can't i can't float above ole miss football because the fumes are toxic. I would also <hes> something else. I wanted dimension by the way a couple of notes <hes> michigan one despite <hes> with their new all fence and looks great. You know like scotland points looked real active doc still retirement tour look to be get nothing mighty fine fashion there for a minute. Hey my beloved blue. Raiders did murfreesboro proud by competing for for about a quarter and a half didn't score as many points instructors so that we can say for some of the other teams in the state and that's offense juggernaut rutgers by the way who har hard to ignore the most telling statistic football total points scored. <hes> records leads michigan so far this year too hard dude north in this as in other things remember <hes> the daily reported bill connolly always citing the stat as very i mean conferences are conferences are groups of like-minded equally valued argued institutions and rutgers being in the big ten does mean that they are the same as michigan michigan ranks only seventh in the big ten points behind illinois oy. Where do they rent. A research and maryland who scored seventy nine on four howard actually lowers their really aggressive research spending message board. I wanna hang out there s._m._p. Skit stanford scores and points look it up but has missile. I wanted to ask us. Michigan traded their values their virtue their character for for success because it sure should have if you look around the stadium that's right 'cause. The beloved zipped tans. The tanning parlor across from arbitrary arbitrary maintain wasn't ohio state splinter cell. They did not dig out in time. We'll just holly. It might have been a satellite campus and then it got infected because sure shave patterson looks more than comfortable and gaddis is do however will be able to sleep at night knowing that you can no longer walk across the street and received that most midwestern of blessings which is a february spray tan at the zip tans because no now it's been and replaced with a coffee house but the coffee places called drip house so maybe like a drip town situation is available. I don't know what that is. It sounds upsetting. Let's move on someone pointed. That sounds like that sounds like the jacksonville state hype video yeah mike though the hardest the hardest future mix tape of the next year drip house my favorite <unk> replied to that video of someone to say god the season riverdale is weird the <hes> the most michigan thing about zip cans. I'm on their website the career section of their website. Everything's going great at banner society in case you're wondering at the at the bottom hunnam of the careers at of the career section it says in larger larger font caution slackers and sliders. Just don't fit the mold here. If this sounds like a team in all caps you want to be a part of spread your wings and shoot us your resume and don't be afraid to brag even zip tans is not here for me. I there's there's no i unzip tans except for the i sounds like a tanning parlor in which i would be encouraged to run through tackles shit yeah yeah. I am always being tackled in the tanning parlor for one reason or another. This is their company slogan. Quicker cleaner stronger better quicker michigan football twenty nineteen stronger better lose to ohio state by twelve. That's only the second so that's the second yeah that's the only the second worst song i've been also like michigan. They briefly charted in two thousand one i i want to i did want to go ahead and point another thing out. Which is we already have the greatest personal foul unsportsmanlike conduct of the year. I don't know if it's going to be equalled but let's set the bar and see if somebody can pole vault over it okay because jackson state's mascot received unsportsmanlike penalty for going out in the field elden celebrating like close after a long bomb touchdown for jackson's date came out <hes> mugged up everybody and looked like he was going to swing at the opposing team in his adorable tony tiger looking outfit well-done jason had what i thought was the best retort to this. I think you're actually actually wildly misstating. What happened here. Oh i'm sorry this being a tiger attorney but you're making it sound like he came out onto the field and and by just got in people's faces and that was a problem i actually have a lot of players helmet he so so so jackson's since playing <hes> jackson states playing within they throw a long ball into the end zone that appears to be caught but may have been fumbled while it's in the endzone and there is a scramble for the ball even though everybody's out of buying this explanation inch is going to go yeah. It's fine yeah. I'm gonna yet right. Not i'm not going to bother. I'm gonna just yup all miss fan amount yeah. You know you're going to lose suggest further questions your honor why. Why did i try but this jason forecast. Why did i try supported at earlier whereas there's rule against tigers open the record book control f. tied to me. Indianapolis silas are you. Are you suggesting that a mascot interfering alive ball situation is bad. I think he just had too much bama him. It would vastly improve if several of the games i saw this weekend i would also. Let's let's also point out that after this i believe but then cookman scored something like <hes> yeah twenty two uninterrupted points tiger your charge. The field made a mess of things and then they lost the game by collapsing immediately after that happened worth it worth it completely worth it set the bar y'all but yeah if you can top that. That's our that's our current. That's our current like like bell someone going well. We ended another hugh freeze quote. Hey it's john genero executive producer of espy nations eighteen podcast the n._f._l. Season is almost here and if you're anything like me you're looking for podcast that covers your team to get caught up on before the kickoff of the regular season. Espy nation has got you covered. We've we've created thirty two n._f._l. 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Minifan On Minifan Crime

The Kirk Minihane Show

1:47:48 hr | 1 year ago

Minifan On Minifan Crime

"Is that true that tweet true? Oh yeah so I got my Why are you screaming we one am I ellen? Sorry relax a laptop from running shoe shops billing protesters why you why are you blocking people the right to protest? I wasn't we got a video. We chatted with okay. So what do we have lost confidence? In Kirk Oh okay. A Free Steve on the back. Okay all right let's spine. We did find some odd things about his protest through. What's that first of all ironically? So was outside this morning. Yeah just now. Does he just missed so ironically. This was well. It's almost like I saw it in some of the deal more you than him honestly public This was disrupting a funeral. Oh He's doing which is going on across the street. Irony abounds so oh well. I'm so I'm so annoyed today with these fucking people I mean I love them but they're just I I'm I'm ready to some of. It's a little much shorter retired as point really and then then then we'll see what people really think but that's okay so there are some holes in the story. Yes So Matt. Saum out there. I said let's go talk to them. Where was he right in front of the building us at Matt's car originally and then he was right in front. Yeah Okay and I chatted with him and I said what's the deal? He says losing confidence in Kirk. Great Okay leader as our leader. Yeah Okay and I said He said you know. I don't think I can listen till Steve's back so one more day and he goes well. I'm still listening. But that's all right. That's okay he doesn't mean he did. I believe me I get a lot of it. They don't you don't I'll be honest with you. Don't listen to all the people leave come back. Don't come back that's okay. So what happened. So that was it. It was more or less. It gave you the sign. The audio is not great. When we were walking away and he goes eighty-one my sign protests over my life. It was pretty weak. I'll tell you what Steve Fans who are fans of mine. I guess we're fans of Steve. Yeah you fucking pussies. Won't you come on here tomorrow? I'll be walking in here. Come on out and fucking really protest. And then we'll have it out after I made mincemeat of the king little pussies these guys like Ask these guys to come on today. One these guys he'll do it. We'll talk to him about half hour. The guy you're the YOU'RE UP AS WILBUR TICKETS. So People Wilbur tickets so if he wants to leave that's okay or the or the guy will get to them in the second. Dachshund Judas Minahasa is my biggest problem okay. We'll get to it so I reached out to him as well and he said he's come on. She wants to fight Kirk Latino Kirker Sui at a guy that will docs people publicly right and you WANNA come on. He's got an honest account and I truly do not. That's I want it that way. If he chooses that. That's okay but you know you WANNA forget fights with people and you're mad at me because you didn't get the genesis of his anger. So you can get tickets to the Wilbur. This guy if you look at it so it's just like fuck divide the someone's giving them up that's true so maybe we could but you know come on. Today. No didn't do it big pussy. You know so. I mean there's like this big swinging dicks and that and I'm telling you out stanway was twenty four hours ago if you're listening to the show because Steve Zahn on it. That's okay that speaks to my greatness by the way that I've created the character of that fucking drip if you ever watched them go some on how on how he car or before. This fucking drip. Who's great great on air personality awesome producer and a great guy? I have created that kind of loyalty towards Steve Is. Honestly you idiot. Should step away and say oh my God kirk is the fucking greatest ever and believe me giving my car mindset in mental position where. I'm in right now. Even before the shit star the mood. I'm in right now when I'm going through my fucking life right now I I fucking be happy to walk away and you can have fucking Steve and Mike Forever. That's no problem. You may begin sooner than you know it so so so protesters if you love. Steve. Come on out tomorrow. Let me here and we'll have a conversation. My guess is you know probably show up and then when you ask them and they'll they'll have no answers other than you know. Here's the truth. If Steve didn't cut up this audio we wouldn't be having this conversation now. if I hadn't been such a Dick to him about that story. He felt compelled to do that so I absolutely shoulder some blame as well night. I do acknowledge that so I I don't know Where was I in the? Oh here's the real And that's I mean unless I'm missing something else other than the Docs and stuff which is fine. We'll get to in the second I actually wanted to start a uniform. The start there but it was comical. Last night. We'll get believe we'll get back to the dachshund thing the second because forget about. This is fucking incredible last night watching these what set seven human beings real home run. He's dinners you're fucking Wilbur. Shelby performance. I think actually won't be because that's watching. Bloomberg be not funny is funny him falling flat joke. He told about bombing the week before. I thought he was serious. At first I was like. Oh skate trying to be like trump. He's taunting them but you but he was kidding though right not since Wendy Williams is a joke phone holy Shit. I've got his audio if you want to hear it. Yeah sure we're going to ask you about this to give you chance to respond. Because in addition to what Senator Warren just said on twitter she called you a liar and borderline racist. Because what you said about redline Yes. I'm sorry but unfortunately she's misinformed on red lighting. You can go back and look at the record. I fought against it before eight. The crisis during and after that red lining is not the problem with the mortgage market but it was a problem for the communities where it was done and we stopped that. Let me also say because just to since since while I have the floor for a second that I really am surprised. That all of these My fellow contestants up here I guess would be the right word for it given. Nobody pays attention to the clock. I'm surprised they show up because I would have thought after I did such a good job and beating last week that they'd be a little bit afraid to do that. I think people thought he was being serious about the time. Did you kidding or no I I guess so I I will say if he was just give him credit. He has destroyed a longstanding stereotype about his people and having a great sense of humor he's working to to knock down taste one by one inspect but I'm saying I'm like I don't even everyone even on stage. These people who are in this thing last night was wonderful. I love disasters like last night. Was I thought it was really bothering you. Thought our fucking waving their arms and screaming trump each other getting pissed off. A trays rang last blood. Bauman checked out like halfway through but the first five minutes was ninety. Nine more people to ask questions in the substances even matter. It doesn't even matter really none of it matters. But I'm watching this and thinking like you know what I'll pick a new victim. They were all going after Bernie this week instead of one. Bernie's leading which is what they should be doing. But like I look at a guy like Tom. Steyer in you want mock him. The guy's a billionaire but yet like running for president is made him completely Our OUR FRIEND. Jim Murray said would you rather? Here's the deal. You can have Tom stiers money. But you have to be treated like Thomson Funny. I think I'll pass. It's like I'm good leg. It's weird. He has this weird face voices. Strange like he's a week. Yeah you know it just seems like a loser but I'm sure he's not you know it sums him up. Is that clip with when burning warriner talking and he comes tried to say a couple of times last night trying to talk in Joe Biden. Who is like Joe Biden's at that point now? Unlike of like memory loss were seen this old people where they get very angry. Indignant about it. Yeah like now getting mad like he's pissed off that this I will finish my sentence. Thank you and I mean. He just like Snoop Dogg. I mean Gayle King trying to run this last night. Holy Shit. It was a disaster zone. Tell them to shut the fuck up it. Can't they like? Maybe we said this last week but kill you know. Mike. Mike's offers and they just and I don't blame them because they want to get their shit in and do. Their time is more entertaining. When do that though I guess? But they're talking about nothing. I mean I almost feel like they should. They should talk right and then once they're done it should be like a chamber some sort of thing when they're done they go right underground talk again. Yeah they bring them back up or something or finds. I don't even know. Did you hear bind talk about gun? Deaths in America. It's a huge tragedy was slightly off slightly off. I've done the math on this normal number. I do the gun. Manufacturers absolute immunity imagine if I stood here and said we give immunity drug companies we give immunity tobacco companies. That is caused Carney. John Our streets a hundred and fifty million people have been killed since two thousand seven hundred. When Bernie voting exempt the gun manufacturers from liability more than all about one hundred people have died in the world since two thousand seven from L. Half the country prison waited and that this morning instead of two babies said the I forget what you call Joey. Crazy Joe or something said Said Half. Americans have been wiped out by guns. The other one was Bloomberg Buying Congress. Did you hear that one? I did hear that. Are you interested in go ahead? I'm willing to play about forty Democrats. Twenty-one hold on a second volume that's okay the Promo Bloomberg is just sounds weak like I said before last time. Everyone's like oh he's a he's billionaires. New Yorkers NOXIOUS TRUMP. But he's not he's just fucking lanes. I said he's Michael Scott. Without the charm. Like he's he's he's not funny and he takes his long to come up with jokes but he's he doesn't have that thing that makes you like. Yeah this is she. She's unlikable is anybody in that state's likeable and I'm a I'm on the Democrat Bernie. Kind of well actually booted he. I like norm. I'm coming back on mayor. Pete I like mayor seems okay. He's kind of ensuring candidates. Yes but he's he. He seems like a nice guy and he's a bright guy and he seems above all this crap he knows why not come off like a Kook they all sound like idiots? Amy seems totally unlikeable. I don shooter last night. I didn't watch the no animal close with like. Oh I saw thing say a thing. That is a misconception about interesting misconception about me is that I'm not likeable or smart or something like that. It's like fuck. You answer that question. I took a run for president. Here the fuck doing fourth grade Always estimate they'll ask of the General Velasco Burns running against trump. Whoever they tell us that you like about the other person just like why we did a college orientation you trust falls next. And they'll say oh they're the spouse their spouses wonderful. Kuka's fuck it wants and they'll have their awful joke like warns like people thing. I don't eat right. That's the worst thing about you know. She seems like she's slipping away too. I mean it feels like last night more than ever Bernie Sanders Bernie fucking sanders. Yeah eight years. Old basically just have a heart attack in his socialist is going to be. It's going to be the nominee. This race is going to be like McGovern versus Nixon. Trump IS GONNA win by fussing. Roy Landslide. Donald Trump is going to be president again. Bernie's this is going to be a disaster for the Democrats and Buddha gestures. The one that I it was weird to hear them all point out like not that. This guy's flawed. It's like he won't win. No vote form. Not going to be trump right. It's like well that shouldn't be the argument. Yeah he's the best candidate I guess but I mean he's I mean. I can't even be trumpet honestly. I'm yeah but it was Yummy here Bloomberg. They talked about forty Democrats. Twenty one of those with people that I spent a hundred million dollars to help elect the all of the new Democrats that came in. Put Nancy Pelosi in charge and gave the Congress the ability to control this president. I I got them yard Adam here's here's the difference between trump and Bloomberg crystallized perfectly right there. I remember four years ago When trump started running in these things against Jeb Bush and the big thing that Jeb Bush would say against him was you know. Hey you you give money to Democrats who went to Hillary Clinton's wedding trying to carry favor. Democrats in trump essentially said no shit. Idiot I'm a businessman. I'm trying to curry favor from everyone. Now I'm not. I'm running for president. I'm a Republican. You don't understand that because you've never done business in your life which was a genius short answer it exposed Jeb. Bush has never had a silver spoons. Malta's whole life and trump said. Yeah that's what we do. We're trying to make the best business deals possible. Now do the same thing. As president of the United States and ironically as president trump is on a wonderful job of bridging the relationship between the Democrats or Republicans and there have been closer before to mazing. Let's trump's going to slaughter them because you're all tearing each other apart but none of them are as good at it as trump so. Yeah but I mean it's like it just you know it's obviously Democrats Republican but it's it's you know that that difference crystallized perfectly white. I mean trump would if trump went against Bloomberg one on one on a stage trump would literally pull Bloomberg's pants down. Dick suspend them around that throwing. It's a fucking wall ninety minutes like it would just be. It'd be like Bertil fight. You know but Bernie pretty also can't like respond to these trump insults like he just doesn't have no sense of humor doesn't have that. Odor with Warren definitely doesn't have that. I mean she's pretty fun. Actually Pete would be the best one because Pete's catacomb and I think he trump skin. I actually do think you could get under trump's skin and he doesn't get phased by the bullshit plus trump. I just call him some slur which by the way it wouldn't even heard from trump's trump trump team and get hurt. It doesn't matter it doesn't even matter but it was it. Was I agree? It wasn't as like fireworks is a week before but it's funny to watch them act like fucking children for a first hour yelling at each other. Joe Pine is like complaining. Like fucking Harry. When Harry doesn't get his attention me gets desert. He's like fucking like to get to talk. Now we'll find that fine whatever fine. That's what I was saying before and there's one in every debate. There's one of them doing it like Amy's done it before where they say like are you. GonNa let me Talk Crouch Woo and then they don't have anything to say. What did you do that? It's over to sound like a baby and Amy Klobuchar Trevor. Moment last night literally fell. He was dead silence like fifteen minutes in. They're all fighting and that was like who's GonNa do it. Who's in the do it and amy's like you know what if we have this kind of fighting in here how we have any chance against Donald trump and that means he'll be president for the next four years in the crowd was like just complete dead silence of trump nightmare night for them I can? I'm sure it did well. People like stuff like that because it's gotten ugly. I'll watch is there. One probably is one between now and Super Tuesday. I Guess No. I guess there wouldn't be. I thought or is there. One beginning next week was the one sat one day. Something before Super Tuesday wouldn't surprise me. I mean there's so many. That's Tom Steiner. In why are we adding? He's pulling it just seems odd well in South Carolina. Next one's March fifteenth. Oh Wow physically over at that point I guess. Twenty twenty days from now or something. Jesus there's only a couple of left right Yeah L. Don ten. That's the eleventh Thursday credit. No that's the there's eleven twelve to to be announced they're saying when it is yet twelve so we need to this next one there's GonNa be that's after Super Tuesday. Yeah it's after all the blood you're going to have Bernie Pete Biden. Maybe I'll give you maybe one other one that'll be at that point. Had He lives Abiola. Maybe Liz warrant but I mean let's say Super Tuesday comes around right and Liz worn wins. No states she might. She's right now she's going to probably lose Massachusetts to burn. I Dunno she's big into sure. We'll get there and a second shocking endorsement. Why and we'll get to it. Sorry about why would they cut so late? Hold on all right. All right let me finish. I just got the players yet may be. I mean you know Bernie I think Berries Massachusetts. He's going to do. He's doing some big rally here but does if you feel like for Massachusetts doesn't mean another she's actually not but watch like oh she's from Massachusetts. She's our gal she's from anywhere. Tino doesn't know none. None of them do Biden like he's from Delaware to you and you seem talk now from south but yeah why goal I mean. He's I think he grew what he did. Grow up in Delaware House. Forget his story. You saw his story talked about getting arrested Mandela or something protesting a couple of weeks ago. He had he had another corn pop store. He dropped some nameless. I wish I could remember what it was. But he dropped some name last night whereas Jesus Christ was one funny moment though he was like. I wrote that bill which I was like I said department. They actually do that. Like when you ask Bernie about some bill that he voted on like for gun control or something. Yeah and he goes well. Joe's at a few and bill came out of nowhere by was raised in Scranton Pennsylvania. Oh that's right action. Us Grand Pennsylvania. But he did this. Yeah Oh yeah when Bernie starts getting into the book grade you get from the NRA d-minus like I'm thinking I'm like I mean dump dummies out. There that's a bad grade is doing bad. What did you say? I'm an enemy of the NRA. But he's but he's in Vermont so he probably has to straddle some fence. I think right yeah. Their constitutional carry state. You can carry grace. I was given a boring minus by Harry Minute. Better off saying that but but like it's just this constant battle at least last night they didn't get a parts. I watched to into these social issues. Actually tried to talk about stuff. Yeah it seemed like it. There is a lot of Military stuff that came up right now. That'd be like fucking fought the military like. Why am I listening to Joe Biden? Pretend he's a military guy. Yeah but he also said he was trained on a on an ar. Fifteen that's crap. That's not what they train on the military. That's an emphasis on this. I have so much depth to me. And you just don't even you. Work wants near a military onion. We'll tanks. How would you calling mayor? You're putting his service in the question. No not yes. Absolutely what are you saying? You know what I'm saying. He did. He said he trained on a weapon that he didn't train on. He said he said the public shouldn't have the weapons that I was trained on. He said when I first on an air fifteen and wasn't in South Carolina is set in South Carolina got off the boat show Zd to fourteen Yvonne. Those what's Oh sympa. Oh and I fought for Steve to keep his trump doesn't doesn't it doesn't matter you just loyalty threatened to quit. I WanNa thank might forget that. It's almost like that was setup planning that to get all her. Never never never never never never never Yep one of the debate. Thought it was very so arbitrary. When it's a person's town we asked the question too. Just strange I don't know why they just you know to me it. Debate debate like Lincoln. Douglas debate right. They just sat there and fucking bullshit if like six hours. What could they just they? They never interact with each other it when they do. It's like this big like fake moment. Like what you senator. Why can't they just talk because they would never shut up? It's also too many people on stage particularly while they're way too. Many people couldn't have a conversation but they all I mean they're all good. They're trained doing Bloomberg. They're all trained so they all know just past gail or whoever is asking the question and say fuck you. I'm going to finish this point. I find interesting that they treated a woman. Democrats through the woman of color like that last night. That's all is weird snow and I'm saying 'cause she's fine. I'm like Snoop Dog. She doesn't think she does a good job. She asking questions now. How did she become? So like Oprah's best friend and now she's hosting debates and that's why the fuck good she's been good an interview. I guess I guess if you get when you rise to the spot but I miss I she just had some good breaks because of Oprah thank you both do it last night to to she would take away from the The stars on she wants to be she remained kind of neutral to and Fennell. There's no way she'd put herself and I was a Democrat in major Democrat fundraiser or or or kingmaker queenmaker. I wanted to be fair. I would sprint to Oprah's house Michelle Obama's house or something and say please save us we are. You are literally our only chance only because we're going we're going to get crushed by Donald Trump and you have donald trump for four more years. Gill is an anchor with Oprah that's how they know each other. Oh is that right Great where when? Tell me where to go high school mats contract that she was she did she. Did she enjoy cooking or what? Tell me more butter passed. That was in Baltimore where she met Oprah wishing on Oprah Baltimore Right Yep Oprah Winfrey oscar-nominated actors for film like the Color Purple. The one erect indeed is moving out like thirteen Oscar. Nominations one none. His memory serves directed by you know why or who directed to them. I don't know fairly famous director. You've you've probably heard this daughter recently. Now she's going to pornography. Oh spill there you go very also very strange story. I don't really understand that. Yeah I mean it's not. It's not though like the idea that a dad who isn't around celebrity necessarily around all the time but that's a daughter that goes into porn. You know she keeping the name. Spielberg and porn parody points. That'd be interesting. I can't imagine if you really if he wants to get back in good graces with his daughter. This'll be a big move. He should direct them. That'd be tough. I'M NOT SAYING THOSE GIVE. Imagine Spielberg was like pork was like if he was like. You know what I'm GonNa do this right in one hundred fifty million dollars Tom. Hanks like the whole thing. It was like a credible basing film which is weird to me. Because I don't know a lot of Williams comes in. It's weird that hanks has a son who's a fuck up. He's being nice. Happy fucking idiot right. Oh he's he's last. I saw me was on the red carpet of the Golden Globe rappers Jamaican accent. Just a fucking idiot. You'll hear you'll hear much about them. Because they look like Colin. Hanks is a decent. You don't turn the TV off. He's on no but And then they look at this idiot and it's just like what the fuck well actually call. It almost see like Cohn eggs. I look at him. It's like looking at Deniro at the beginning of the Irishman. But like it's Tom. Hanks like you so Oh yes always a version of not quite as good. You're not quite there and you can't win. He made an he directed by the way. Excellent Documentary Colin. Hanks I WANNA I wanna say it's called. All things must pass he directed. It's about the history of tower records which is worth a if no one's listening today but if anyone's listening that's the correct name is correct name. All things must pass things must pass came on like maybe fourteen or fifteen now even though I know sorry. Twenty fifteen want actually wicky knows okay. Anyway I realized that for the last like I haven't lasted what last couple times I've been in here. I haven't been when you've asked for things I haven't been able to give them to you fast enough so I'm just trying to be more on the realize that just realize like this morning last you realize it when it was happening both okay. You seem to even. I know that you had this false. Bravado seem a little rattled. Yesterday seemed quite timid. Lucy I felt like the first time I was in here. I needed to assert myself a little bit more. So you knew that you could talk to me if you need to. But I'd rather just let things come to me now. Okay now that I'm This is an old hat for me as what there's an old pro fourth fifth time this year. This time this time doing this I love it. Well your loved what I actually thought you know. So I looked at the feedback yesterday for the show and I figured you know people are GonNa so people liked it. Some people hate it but everyone was. I think even the people who hate me right now for for suspending Steve for lying to me and editing sound. Not Telling you about it and then lying. He said that his thought about since by such a tragedy. I'm just saying For three days this job back is the highest paid producer. Literally America makes five times. I do America job who've been showering with love for. Why do I think even the people who are against me for you know taking money out of my pocket Casey and fight for his job and there are other people? Don't even know about with Steve. But that's fine Even those people were like. Oh you know. Matt's May Not Match Fault. They match my kate. Boy and Mike Had. Right now is plenty. Oh boy this is coming folks. It is cooking right now so all the call so I reached out to these people because I was like. Oh I want to hear from somebody. Who's like this guy who claims to be this big fan? I was number here on taxes to me or tell me. Are you going to delete it. it's up to you a lot of dachshund going around. We'll get there. You're going to actually delete it if you WanNa tell me. It's either way's fine. I'll do whatever you want to me. I'll tell you the number man. Yesterday is the first time a name I sell is just that six. Oh three number I did. You have to scroll through text. Yeah that's going to be a pain. I leveled up but I don't like putting them in my disturbs me. Seeing that I understand just once it goes in can never leave. That's the rule. Could Matt Rule will boy? How do you say certain words? You say be doing that. Of course offering is psycho is he is could rip his fucking face off the Steve. Who's just having a Matt Mask on for the last year? You didn't hear that what's up. Steve. As Steve told a hold on. Hold on okay. I didn't hear this. I think this is right. Mature because in this gentleman's name is James James Spencer. Give him a call he You Doxa him his name on this one. Yeah no I wouldn't do that. He said I tweet out. The swearing civil wars arrived at seems in. They'll be ended today. I saw them despite some satire involved in that but that's okay He said You calling a matter. No is response is actually no trouble. Not Listening. Yesterday may be time for an extended. Break leaving my seats open for the first show. Also thanks. You saved me a lot in two nights hotel appreciate he said so. I said well reach out to him and see if he's willing to maybe put the tickets up or if he's just going to sell them because there are people. I think it didn't connect so hold on one sec if you want to turning. I'm thinking the right Matt see recently. I did Jimmy actually. Don't go by that but okay. You're by the way by the way you're live to tape on the Kirk after afternoon. Fortunately because Steve was so egregious in his error against me now. I have to do that for him. Which doesn't seem right. You so much does a James Run with that. So that's all right so no I saw I hold on. You can respond as much so I just read your tweet so I'm just trying to figure out because there are people who still want tickets to the Wilbur. So I didn't know if you were going to sell them as I message you if you want to give them away the fans or how you WanNa you WANNA handle it. Well my ideas that I you know. Not Listening to this show right. Why WOULD I go right? There is another party involved and she is very much but in order to dress up date night in Boston Mrs. Spies don't get I don't get to the phone. I have an input. What so I have an input in the situation. Oh I got you okay. So so what you're saying if your wife or girlfriend would still like to go to the show. She added a very interesting question. She does not know your show on the channels too. So why don't you just you hit the show now because of the Steve Situation? No problem at the dinner in Boston. But it's okay. You're tired but if you don't like the show that I'm here because I think you think I'm GonNa Yell and scream issue. Not that's fine you can leave. That's not a big deal at all but so just while it's US take her out to dinner then she show go making ninety seven. Boston would do it anyway. We're but you said she doesn't want to go and you don't WanNa go. So why would you both wanted to do something you don't want to do? She May WanNa go. We just listened to go because she likes to get into a suit and make me have to go out to a Sudanese dinner James. Nice dinner somewhere you have to. You have to bother with me because you know suspended. See for three days and then you can give the tickets yourself into somebody who still manages to listen to this show. Despite the fact Steve was correctly if not frankly not punish enoughers horrific crime. Okay believe me I if I decided to go that route At my mentioned I have more than enough opportunity. It's weird that's okay. That's okay no I listen James. I think we message back and forth. I think he thought I was like I have. If you have a big issue with the Steve. Thing I respect loyalty no problem at all. That's okay I'm just saying you know I've followed your entire career okay. I left e. when you were throwing out thank. I walked away that day. Thank you and I know you're interviewing style. I mean I don't WanNa be like a deflategate denier because the beating they took for monumental yes it seems to me. Who are. You're a big Fan. No I think he's a big fan of mine so much as these big hardcore big hardcore Republican right. Oh Yeah I just think that your loyalties might be somebody else's while which is okay. That's no big deal long. I don't know if that's part of it. I just I just didn't I guess Kirk would I would say. Is this sure I can kind of see where this is going. You have a tendency to burn every professional relationship you ever have and it just looks like the next hard to hard to hard to deny that James but I I would I would. I would say that you know. If you've got to talk to Steve. I think Steve will be the first one and we'll do it Friday. He'd be the first one to say that you know what I deserve this so everyone will say both find out right. We'll find out James as James Obviously won't be listening. But maybe somebody through the grapevine and by the way. If I'm wrong on that I'm Rollin. We'll see numerology me. I'm in the discord. I'll hear about it. I give this guy stop listening. King James How about this? How about James James James? Hold on hold on one second you why don't you? Why don't we just the bullshit right now? Why don't you just say hey? I tweeted I overreacted. I still the show I wanna go to the live show and to say you know what James No big deal. I appreciate the fact that you're passionate and I do appreciate the fact that you left. Ti and we can shake hands and just say move on. Does that sound fair? That'd be lying. Go we ask why I like. This guy can't help it. We're going to say the MIKE GO AHEAD REMEMBER. I what did you did. You said why. Would you keep going the discord? If you're not listening to the show because it's just been a habit you have understand if you look at my podcast if you look at my at wait a minute. You're I'm honestly don't know my podcast APP. My podcast download my podcast shirt. I don't use items. You'll see every second single. Second of kirks Joe has been listening to up until yesterday right. I didn't listen. Let's listen to that. I even listen to Shitty end of the year thing. Oh my God hilarious. Well well let me ask you a question. Should HAVE SUSPENDED STEVE FOR THAT. And then we could just call it even. Does that seem fair tire? Go sheet that's all you know but I was even shooting on you for going. I am I am psychotic enough. I'm in the call. Every single person like this who disagrees with them and have this conversation with James Though. I look the guy sticking sticking Gandhi. That's Okay. My only question was again discord. Why not. Just listen to the show you know I mean if you're still interested why not just listening to the show I know but I just want him to say no again. Listen yesterday okay. Wait a minute. An active member of the discord. It just I just because maybe just take a break it. Just what's funny annoyed me what you did because I look at how much that man does for you and you suspended him. I think you made him pay a five thousand dollar fine for five dollars crime right. I think I understand I understand. No you're exactly right. Came sets that I think is a very fair criticism. That second part to that I would counter with. Let's say that I think Mike did something wrong. And I didn't suspend afford. That was a mistake but then I think Steve did something wrong and he should be suspended she then not suspended him because I made a mistake before not suspending. Somebody like what point two after start saying? I have to correct punishment in my mind for the crime. Does that make sense to you? Correct punishment punishment you gave him wasn't the correct. I understand but but but I do that. To me is a separate argument. I think a fair one. I don't like the argument that I didn't suspend my choice. Oh I shouldn't Suspense Steve. To me I would. I would table that part of the argument and I do think the idea. They PUNISH STEVE. Too much. I would absolutely Grease Affair. I. I don't. I don't agree with you on that but I but I totally think that's an I've seen a lot of that and I think that's a fair point. I'm wondering WHO'S THE WORLD WOULD? We wanted to do this. They were James. I'm just wondering almost if you are trying to almost fulfil your prediction. You know some people when they make a prophecy they kind of mean towards making it happen. Predicted said you think Stephen you think will be gone by the end of the year. I don't think that I now I think. Nah I I. Actually I actually feel more confident security. How much obscurity we back and forth. Yesterday everything's Great. Oh that's against the rules business okay. Yeah everything's everything seemed right. I don't know James. Obviously you have some secrets that I don't know about re involving Stephen will find on Friday. You could be right. He may come on Friday and quit if he does that but here then he quits. I mean you know good for him if he does it if he's got something else he wants to do. A muck Steve's a great guy. He's a he's a great producer. I I. I said Monday. He is a great. That's a great question. You watch him something that up. That's not true. So that's ultimately that's where you and I disagree on. That's all that's okay. We're we're too. You know guys who have who have a disagreement on something not the end of the world. That's okay I'd like you. I'd like you and your lovely wife or girlfriend or companion. Let's just leave it at that trump. What I'd like you guys to be there because I like you so maybe in the next few months you can change your mind. Has that sound okay? Good Day to see how you would check in James All right. Thanks Buddy now. I'm like no no. I'm not going to know myself speak talk you later. Thanks James Sense of humor. But that's okay. But but I think articulate the point that a lot of people have they feel like the punishment was too much I disagree. But that's that's okay but boy he's one of these he's he's got some. Cca This Steve Knowledge. I'm unaware of I had a good text back and forth a lot of people. That's what we've been saying. That's we've got. I've not seen this part. We pay attention to most stuff. Steve you know make sense. If he doesn't trust me. Tell me this information certainly doesn't trust. You wouldn't tell me no but he has told people in the facebook group there is that the group is not. It's not a group is turned their back on me. Maybe I don't know facebook. Group is begging to mention them. Yes they begged me to mention them to say well. They're not shitting on anyone. Careful careful Steve's GONNA walk in here Friday. I like this resign. He's at here. Really no zebra job wind up. I don't know Jerry. This is John Jed Duck. They repented their love affair. So is that true? So if they're saying yeah so one guy walk away in resign which he may do if he does that. I give them credit and he's GonNa go to a place where there's no money to be made with somebody who just called him a fucking snake. It said he's the worst person in the world. Okay a piece of shit okay. I mean that's be an interesting move. I will say that. I think we're I think a Lotta favor. That Steve has won over. The last week might be lost if he does that. If he walked in the quit he may be a hero if he did to Jerry show. I'm not sure that would win over a lot of people anymore. This point so maybe people maybe people are going to lose the Jerry show. I think I think they'll be fine by Friday honestly started. Even yesterday wasn't as vocal as yesterday. Knock yourselves out. I don't mind the passion at all. I don't like I don't like this. Entered duxing stuff now. I don't so I reached out to that guy that Ju- Minihan guy and he was just a do she was like fuck basically he was like your pa some punk thing and then you're pushing by the way. I want to tell you my name right. I don't WanNa know on the matter. A million fans who does matter a little bit. Because if you're GONNA do that shit that it does matter. Let's go say. Hey Business Years Israel. We do this when we do. People get worked up and try Dr Sky. Then what have you can't do that either. No anyone interested in that. Well I mean yes. I agree with extending service K. R. One guy twin- fan people who listen to podcast so so the mentors guy asks the the early Kirkman question. Yeah Yeah can you find this audio? Didn't find that he's doing it to to make Steve. Looking an asshole. What that's his character on the show reasonable world and then this guy in them reading like it just gets honestly like and I and I don't understand it comes born from passion it but like I'm seeing it. This guy mentors in Australia. If people I guess he owns a business or something restaurant a restaurant and they're giving them like I. I I know people given the podcast one-star reviews. I think it's kind of a shitty thing to do the podcast. I've asked people to do it to the so. I can't really complain. But it's Kinda shitty thing of course but that's okay. They're mad but this guy owns a restaurant like he's a fan. He like everyone. I think most people like this Mahan Guy or like you know the guy would just talked to. Obviously he's GonNa be at the Wilbur like he loves the show. That's he's not going anywhere but people like that. The extreme edge of it like just fucking ignore them. I you know so so they. Docs this guy and it's Kinda like now. Everyone's threatening the Docs. Everyone just like this is fucking. My thought was going to happen at some point. It's just a shifting by by a bitter fucking asshole who couldn't get tickets to the Wilbur. So he started acting like a fucking baby yet. I hate the exclusive like well Kirk does it to Kevin. Cullen and Shirley reminded figures. That's kind of tried to you know room a night and they're journalists are supposed to be trusted the you're exposing for lying so here's his ass exposing a business owner who likes a podcast so because he doesn't like fucking opinion on someone on the show. So here's what I'd say that. The fans out there in the men's cells who are united a lot of ways and they're mad right now because Steve Fine. I don't you know whatever I've given up a BS management. You know you could start talking to each other. Okay but do this first. Okay Ruin W. E. Ruin. Entercom ruined the Boston Globe. Ruin the Boston red. Sox You know ruin the lives of Shirley and Sam Kennedy embalm Murchison. you know any of these enemies we've made over the last couple of years people who've really tried the fuck us over. I WANNA yesterday. I was kidding around will be yesterday you know just a quick update institutionalized. I was you know close to killing myself and entercom wouldn't let me back on the air and they make jokes about it. My partner made jokes about. That's somebody else by the way. Ruined his podcast. You know you re read those texts last week. Ruined Gerry Callahan. Podcast a get to our enemies like you know instead of bringing down mentors like you know if you really got to focus in galvanizing use your force but can bring down enemies and then once you get all every single. I mean we've ever had come back. And say hey. Can we talk somebody? I'll probably say no but once you do that. You Give me the receipts. Then we get the conversation you know David Field Sa- top an ivory tower this morning. Sam Kennedy. They're still in their jobs. Shirley stolen her job. You Know Kevin Carlson this job. Yeah John Henry Linda Zuhdi all these people still Joe Zarbano. Markkanen might be still all in their jobs. You know when we talk on that. Take whatever happened to that. Is that are coming? You Know Greg Hill sitting there laughing at you guys today. I mean we should be day in day out working together to ruin these fucking assholes who've tried to ruin US instead. You're fucking getting mad and I get it. You're mad about Steve Fight. You're mad at each other fine but like. Are we going to really do this or not do this because if we're really going to do this and you want me to turn against some of YOU GUYS? I'll fuck and do it and it'll be really ugly. I've been pretty nice about the last couple of days. What Nice should be honestly? But you know. Because I've seen all the people who tweet over the years and bitched about people drop dumping sound and dropping content now acting like you know Stephen do anything wrong but like you know. It's time to galvanize in picking enemy and go the fucking war insurance fucking guy in Australia or fucking Mayo. Jar tried to fucking docs these people you know in one just go after a fan and ruin their life that they're they're fucking the guy's a huge fan of the show right now we're going after their enemies out there who are laughing. Who who've prospered since who won and you're letting him do that so you know if that's how you. WanNa do it great. But you know it's fucking shit thing to do. I mean that guy is a fucking asshole while the fucking prick loser. We'll asshole when you look at. What matters did he said? Hey this can you find the sound. Oh no you can't even if you wanted Steve fired he didn't dig on them. And fucking find these shady things from his past that no one knew about he said. Hey this audio is missing. From a podcast. What's up protest. Want Him? Well I mean he was doing a Dick. Of course he was born. I'm saying is. He's not digging on Steve's family or any private information that's that's like way over the law and crime is being passionate listener of a podcast like fuck you for going after you know. I mean you think about somebody like Shirley in like you're going after a guy like mentors like just like it's just you know shame on them like I mean honestly it's you know that's that's what I would say but we're saying that we know Mike Mike my point okay. Yeah But you know the then you have. 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It's over although it sounds go back and get some sleep once resigns on Friday. Oh yeah well. That's a might happen. I don't know what am I gonNA do? Have you talked to Steven all? Mike Grimm a little bit more Monday. Not since. Oh No. That didn't talk to him yesterday now. Was I going to say so? I watched actually watched them in cells thing. It was fine. They seem like a guy's job for a first episode. I thought they did a good job. It's fun along the younger all from right. Yeah I mean I have to be honest. I don't know why wills on that show neither do I no no. There's no reason to have on that show here. Why not I probably do. I want here wire now. He called me and told me which I don't really. I don't have a problem with that. Just funny he says you know after the Pistol Pete thing. I thought it would be better if like you could see my face so I can kinda monitor everything that we're not. We'll was babysitting them. Stand NEITHER DO I. Because if he was behind the scenes he would still be the homies. Let's over America. Yeah that's okay. It's not the sense I got. You know we'll should not be on. I mean you may be in cell. I guess but like he's also on the the in the universe like he's produce fucking for the show. There was also a weird thing was the intern. Show will being on there. But it was then of them saying well. I guess we're GonNa Talk to you now because on here and he's like no. I'm just here. It's Weird. I was laughing at the beginning Who's The guy from Pennsylvania? John John Okay. John's like yeah. He's he's again much love to Be Much love. Hp's like an original. He's like he's he. Was there back in the day. I'm like like last year. I like. Yeah he fought in the wars. Why Okay I don't know sure we like an HBO but something like that makes me laugh. But they seem Magog good guys and that didn't like it adds another they. Actually they contact one of them. Contacted me after the show and said how do and I'm like well. Oh I'm not GONNA lie. I mean I thought it was not as compelling as it could be. It was too long to long to long answer actually like my main my main critique is that they didn't they get their lives. Don't think I did for the past. There are a lot of topics I felt like. It would be better if they just picked less topics and got her first show. Well and specifically I don't come from the barstool world at all so I don't know they don't like you to tell me no I'm just saying for you. It's not for you might be for other people only. Yes that's Yeah I mean it's you know better I would say half hour. I think that's actually right. Pick a couple of things in hit it but this is the introduction but sort of going around the room and we started liking barstool mechanical. Fuck again I don't care who likes Barstool who doesn't and maybe other people do. I don't know right and that's kind. That's the whole point of the show so surprised to those guys are already on the Barstool mural though I was impressed with on there a few times. I can't remember what on that did you see. She is it than although the Internet new boring intern. Nick corrected on Instagram. Well he do. You made a mural with only you larry's yeah I don't really care. Does people really are people who are actually mad? Be OUTRAGED BY THINK. They think it's funnier phenomenon. That right yes I mean what am I gonNA part of that world know? Maybe someday no no. No thank you. Kate in Whoever mantis some foodie rapid chewing chaps and Williams who said that was not exactly a Jackson pollock? Who put that fucking thing together? Thanks hello my God Jesus you see it. Yeah I I may See Smith. Look like the you're in it. Oh Yeah you are Sean Latham but it looks like Casey Smith looks like Loofah. Regna WITH ONE WIG on run. Yes Yeah I noticed some of the I couldn't. I mean me for different reasons probably but I couldn't really tell horrendous absolutely awful should fire ever. Did it go pretend these gray them sure predicted that you would come on and trash the mirrow. St- no no I've known a Pussy. I know he's just a terrible artist. Yeah but that's not part of the University. That's okay my part of the haven't been here long enough a part of the Mercedes Benz I mean. Oh I mean the pirate ship parachute higher ship. You'd like to see who else is not on it though that it'd be interesting to see. Who's comparable to you? That's no no. That would make a million dollars guys are on that I think are they are. It's awfully quick somewhat our cares they probably the round lot more probably in their contract or something probably touted noticed on their contracts. Are they really there? I'm looking at the image. Now I would say that you could yes you can pick them out. I guess I you know who have maybe three possibilities. That's true and they're fully grown in terms of height. Yeah they're over three right there on there. I mean but that's okay. But that's like their little community sits okay we purposely say we all want to be part of the bitch and Moan about it. I think you should make a big stink. It's alright style was on there. Good well that won't be that won't lead any Oh we don't do that. Don't not saying they should have seen. It won't don't do that very polite today on. What was wondering. The Boston was teasing this endorsement for President and I have been big pins and needles sticking. Who might they possibly pick here? I couldn't figure it out so they put on video today in. You know what they say. The Globe is they are not obnoxious at all and it doesn't seem like a parody of like the newspaper would do they keep you guessed they may this year. We decided to invite our readers more into the process. Our endorsement of a presidential candidates declined over so basic income. This is the future of the country is all for two generations. Now families have been squeezed harder and harder and harder financial so. I'm just going to have such a different story than Donald. Trump would declare a state of emergency on day. One for a whole bunch of reasons. She wants to preserve capitalism. She's a former Republican. Who discovered the corporations were using the system? I think she's the most competent. Let us music. I kind of documentary editorial board what was looking for a candidate that could best champion democratic values and achieve real results in Washington Elizabeth. Warren is that Canada had a feeling. That's the music you would use for movie a Beautiful Mind. You say around the pictures of the board with all meeting the head. This picked like fucking two years ago. I assume they already said yes. So even better is the globe doubled down and also endorsed bill. Well does a Republican candidate. Oh did you see that important Metal Cross endorsing bill? Well does the Republican candidate. Come Moravia. Joe Walsh. Like what the fuck you doing? But when did they realize that? That's I don't know it. Sounds extra parody of like? Who's watching that? It's like okay. I'll vote for with more now. That hurts her to win. Not only that but WHO's watching. The Boston Globe Likes Lose with Warren. Right very strange very strange. We have any Sondra. Actually I think we have one. That's critical of you know. Well hold on. You and I don't WanNa do that one second. We could play the moment. I've taken enough of beating here the The I will say Chuck Denver Got Little Online love. I got a couple of tweets from many of the people who like Chuck Denver more not knowing about exactly a couple. Who LIKED CHUCK DENVER? See I I never said. It was a bad bad musically. I'm sure the lyrics were very funny. If you knew what he was talking about I had no memory of making a John Denver joke. Yeah that's the thing. I think if if you did that Monday and I gave you the song Tuesday you you probably not but the but I feel I feel bad about you know saying that. Don't take chances because that's he's taking. It's an oddball. Pick which I like. Yes I love the idea. It just didn't hit me because I had no. I didn't know what the fuck was talking about. No problem is this is a good critical song of me or no. It's all right Fine I mean listen tiered very inconsistent fucking do Steve. Sitting at home scout is in the booth. Mashing out he should be the one just select eight the way a rare variant. Thank the rules up as you go. Goff show ever have not just what hope this later. Hold on what are you saying? Don Leader Awful hopeful hopeless. I'll put up there. That's pretty funny. Yeah the other ones are now. Yeah I've got another. Oh yes actually hold on. Hold on for a second. What makes me think of my old days? Thank God by the way early. Kirkman has been feeling the heat because I was concerned yesterday. He was GONNA put up my hold onto the college from the ideas but unfortunately he wasn't able to find that so we did find. If you're right about wait a minute would. You may have found a couple. Well that's true from one show. I seven seven nine. Zero eight fifty eight eight eight five. Two five zero eight fifty. You can text us at eight fifty eight fifty I've been remitted looking at those are reporting them. Hold on a second there. I see Tom and Joe will get you. Plus Second God first of all I sound I do sound younger. I think you do. And it's that old. That's that's hold it is when it's eight fifty eight fifty if you're from Boston you're listening. That is old. It's got the before they moved us. Go right I WANNA say why. Talkable frank owner. Oh so maybe nine. So you doesn't eleven at two thousand eleven okay so it was nine years ago. Jesus Christ I I laughed about. I think people always think that this is going to be. I've talked about this. Some ammunition against me absolutely not trying to get. I mean that's how you get in the door. You gotta you gotTa Play Ball. I was there video of this nine things. Okay never mind into a video. That from video of weekend shows When Saturday afternoon show broadcasting? Nobody was true to Tom who Tom Joe. Tom Jones by we could not. The chances didn't even exist. I was about those fakeness definitely possible. I mean you're asking me I can't remember the show last week. Your remember that fair enough I have no memory of any of those shows have wiped them out. Like fuck in. There wasn't one there wasn't one weekend show you did that was. That's what I would do now. Or why are they keeping like when he played the second cut one? I saw where. I'm Kinda yelling screaming like that's a little attitude like that's different than what people here on the weekends back. Yeah so I'm fine with that like I got into fights and stuff and Jack Edwards on us I remember. I don't even really remember that really. I don't remember I don't you would like fucking ten years a bit twenty hours a week like you don't you don't you don't think about it. I think Go ahead so tom and Joe Horrigan here at this point a couple. Actually Tom and Joe will get you guys waiting to see replay that either comeback. After the way they treated them somehow they felt he didn't get the most of the guys they brought in a text from five. Oh wait I guess that's fair baseball. Mine go I guess. That's fair is Carrie. I have cats month just came up as the people in Rhode Island. If he's a great manager exactly out curt schilling main thirty eight studios. I don't think has anything to do with how we manage a baseball team. I I'll stay curt schilling's minced get pissed off. Don't get me started talking. You said there was a dump in there somewhere though. Yeah that's in the second one. That's you don't WanNa hear it the reacting detects. You don't really give an opinion. You're just like talk about that at that. Point is already a little bit of boredom at this all right. I don't even know but you feel like you have to do it. Where you as were you more into sports than your indifferent. No but I I wouldn't watch games even back then really like the Red Sox. I never watched ever I. I watched maybe simplisafe games but surprised me just from the sense of Europe very prepared. You feel you would want to know what you were going to have to talk about. That was bored by even. I mean if you listen to the John Jerry by the end of two thousand thirteen I'm ranting raving boring. This guy was once I got in like. I understood quickly. You have to do stuff like that to get in. Like if I started a show in two thousand eleven and did like what I like to do. I would have never been on the arrogant chasing wolf a big you know. We can't have yawn. Why so I tried to incorporate both because I mean you know there are people see them tweet them listen to kirk back on the weekends and he was different would do some of it to be fair. There's a lot more of what the fuck that Shit you just heard. Then the other stuff we're GONNA say the number you stood out just because you were funny with sports talk in Shaw point out the absurdity of like I would have said in two thousand eleven on the weekend show like why are we fucking Kobe. Bryant a hero here what the fuck is going on and you would have been the monash by like a pussy like Jason Wolfe right you know and Jason Wolfe W. could to try and make that democracy bore. Say THE CALLERS NAMES. Say That see area code of the texter which you know like like you know when you play. I think it's really funny but like it's proof like I've put this way. I've cost myself a lot of money in some ways by not continuing to do stuff like that. Yeah so obviously. Turn my back on this phone. Yeah play the second part of my question. I was going to be okay. No I'm saying go ahead. Tom Why am I guess Mansard Project? That was where your job was. But why didn't WanNa do sports talk? You know what I mean not a place and I don't think there is thinking about the Boston media buy new wrong. Is there not a place where you could do so right so it's just mind like I said I don't mind doing you know I don't want to do anymore but I understand the people like it? Yeah that's my buddy. I was driving back with Harry last night from karate. You were driving back. And he was playing his video game. I put on for like five minutes. And I'm like okay. You know. See what he's got he had on Fizi in studio and had Ryan Hannibal calling in from the Columbine talked about workouts. And I'm like that just excited. Yeah I'm like I don't think but but then I'm thinking am I thinking like me? Maybe I should other people drive around like Oh i WanNa hear about dessert saying baseball. The general manager. Tom Brady I guess yesterday. Do People want to hear that? Maybe there's a slice of people wanted to hear that. Yes I don't maybe there are people who do because my thing was always when I was doing the podcast. Hold on one second. Hold on. We'll get we'll get to you guys in the second guy. Mike Joe we see guys I was always like maybe I like when I was getting my podcast. We're getting edited and everything for me. I was like should I just try to do it on fs website or something. I was trying to think of. Is there a place where talking shit might be better than a sports? Talk Radio Place at the. What's called the podcast. And the two thousand twenty go ahead. This is not one of these shows. When I'm on here Roy. I'm going to say Oh you know. All calls are welcome. They're not fucking big swinging. Dick man not at least have some intelligence. Okay please have some intelligence lined up right now. That's that's that's a lie. That is a I can tell you. Oh we finally have one calling and right now. Finally the callers are going to step up right now. I see rob from switch. I want to hear from that. Turn that off. That's the last row on rob sneak in Joe. Thomas certainly waiting on the line long lines. I can tell you this in two thousand eleven of Kirkman five lines not taking Robin Ipswich. Every single one of those calls brain sports discussion with them. Awesome willing to. It's funny to listen to because it sounds just like when you mock Mutt or whoever on sports talk radio friends there. Oddly doesn't impression of the two thousand eleven Kirkman handle the weird way and he's kind of like he was like. Oh that's you know. Oh He's good this. I'll you make the case myself back. Then they were not on the weekends saying that the callers were fucking dummies in two thousand eleven. Oh sure fuck there was all like hey. That's a great point. What's also different in general in two thousand nine because there wasn't podcasting so you didn't hear much of everything there is right. You know that's true I sean. What your favorite sauce here to talk sauce for here. It's going around here not sports. Today we played some sound thirty nine years ago so if people like all mocking sports so of anything in the world of sports you'd like to talk about right now man the red sox day rotational starting day rotation okay We definitely a big sports. Fan Waving your. I mean here's the thing here's the thing. Okay we'll get you in. The second guy gave plenty of time. I mean it really comes down to is going to be sale. Is Sale going to be healthy or not healthy? I read some stuff. This week encouraging. Stuff this spring trade between I mean. Look if we want. We'll get the produces mostly the calls second. We could produce these spring. Training optimistic calls all day long. We've been doing. I was sitting here a year ago. Two years ago. Tellus right I mean we did this. Guy's in the best shape of his life right sure right plus one on that one but if Chris sale is going to be dealing this year put us visit me. Put this way this way this way. Put this put this. We'll get the second. We'll talk to bus rolling here in about fifteen minutes The bomb in the if sale can argue in texture. Call if we can bang on this call right and they did a good job. We'll get we'll get to another one here in a second thanks. We'll get to the next guy if sale can give you. I want to say one hundred eighty innings this year. If that's number I'd be thinking right now. If you'RE A RED SOX FAN ONE. Eight hundred eighty innings the raise in the threes. You got a chance to walk. Look I mean the Yankees were. I'M NOT GONNA we. Can I know Severino but I only want to get into the Yankees stuff right now but if you get I will tell you right now is sold somewhere else. Am I buying if you WANNA go? E eight to me any eight. Is that number to get to the wildcard for the Red Sox. You need at back at eight one. Eight zero eight is going on right now. Crazy right now. If you get eight hundred wins you need sale. Give one hundred eighty innings easily. And I need zander. Bogart's take another step and I know what you're saying remember. Everyone's like number we did. The whole thing was Andrew the step last year Matt Zander. Take another step. It took us up to stardom last year right. We took those calls could get somebody else that they wind going into. It was the next up to superstardom. That's must and if that happens then sale happens. I'll anymore three four. What is happening? Who Else is talking? I is a solo show. But if he can do the job as a manager and don't even get me into what he knew and didn't know his guy. That's a different conversation we've had on the million. I don't WanNa relitigate that again. We can get to eighty eight wins and once you get in the playoffs. Anything can happen and they can happen. I make sale in in Bogart's guys that's what I would say. Hey Guy any US Take a quick. Make it hot. Make it spicy. Which what sauce are the redwing Stockman? Struggle I mean what's what's going on. Thanks for the call. What's going on with the organization right? Now we'll tdy's again so that's good. Yeah but this team for years. How old are you thirty? Three thirty three okay. So you about ten years younger than I am. I mean when I was growing up year. Weather's Bowman you mentioned is Erman Lidstrom already stars. I mean you will get the start of the year. You're getting one hundred points hundred ten points and you're gonna a deeper on the Stanley Cup and now looking at this franchise what is going on or near Dynasty. I mean they they got some some point. I understand that I mean what have you turn it around the globe? It's confusing to me and I'm I'm everyone doesn't have a closet rubbings fan like what is going like. Where did it go wrong? Why did things turn? I don't know Old Agent contract. That's the thanks for the call and that's kind of thing so when you get into this contract game and Nhl you forget. Sometimes you know you gotTa keep your captain colleague Don Sweeney. You GotTA learn how the Balance. And that's why they made the move sweet. That's why they say the back assist week get. Krueg people say oh they. They're pitching they're giving up fine. You WanNA give Croup and I. I don't know if you all are kept as a matter. Campus Crap Fuck that get that sorry grab that. I I just I get passionate about that. We'll take one more and then we'll get. We'll get to quick break here. We're GONNA hit the brake on time here from our sponsors Texas while eight. Fifty eight fifty. We'll get to the callers you in the Second Column Sports Radio Mattress Awesome you. These guys. Don't WanNa Talk Sports. Try One more police producers being too active on the Mike. Either to be addict but yes. That's fine but I'm here to talk sports here to fucking play. Grab ass and then don't even. I mean I don't even I'm hearing people saying the Jason Teams on the top fifty fucking list right now grab at. I mean I I get passionate not top fifty players. Hey what sauce. I'm here to talk. Sports they give me your hottest sports. They can make it so. I don't know what that means. I'm here to talk sports. Can you give me your heart? Sports take for the day police to take the gate Rohan killed by the L. Greet whatever they are. Flame but good. Thanks for the call. I mean this is. This is again in organization. We I can't get mad at John. Sweeney right now a GIG my friend Bruce Cassidy like this is a team. That's trying to figure it out You know obviously cricket kosher they call last year. I'm also going to get back there there so at the top of the East right now. They're still competitive. And what do you want I mean? Do you want an organization? I grew up for years. Everyone's like oh the bruins don't spend money they don't do this. Harry Sinden Jacobs. That's gone now that's out. That's gone from history. I mean that that is forget about it hundred percent but you want this team to make a deep run every year. Would you want them to have good news? Randomly then dropout. That's the old debate and I love this debate and I'd love to get into the college here. Today would rather have twenty years of greatness in one championship. Say the braves. Okay that great braves rotation of Mannix. Glavin SMOLTZ STEVE. Avery the Pendleton on that team. They had lemke on that team You know we turn the Lopez and Chipper Jones Andrew Jones. We know we know that team. Lebron was on the teen. Ross Minnesota we can do Alabama here to do that. Do you want twenty years one title. Would you want the thing like the Marlins we spiked a couple of random tablets? You get titles. But then you're lost to me. GimMe Consistency right now. But I don't like the Bruins GonNa win this year. I'll say I don't I don't like to say it. I'll say in the vic- my friend Cathy. You guys know me. I'll shoot straps. I right to his face. We know about that history between Bruce Cassidy up and down but I think the bruins right now if I guess right now Eastern Conference finals on their done. I don't like saying it if anybody wants to call them. We'll talk to Bob Mackenzie later. Obviously to break it down in an hour and a half but it frustrates. That's seven seven seven nine eight fifty fifty eight fifty fifty Texas cooking. I see Mark Andrew as he can in my producers side to make another call going to break but I like that's fine. We'll talk on. The brain is acting their own still calling clo sauce. Sports Take God. It's sports. Talk Sports Wednesday here with sauce. I think they should should not have gotten Kemba Walker Kerry. I read so much better. I mean really. Good a friend of mine. Oh thanks for the call. I got a friend of mine. Who's in the comedy business? I'll do you mind. Who was. That's the thing I always really and then I going to say really I mean how about that carries story. I mean that. Yeah thanks for playing Kerry next year with a loser Aspergillus loser sauce. That does not taste good with anything. Kemp Great. I like the fact that we're tying the sideline the other night. That bothers me fine. So let's go in the Portland last night They may have one. They may have lost. Who knows doesn't even really matter. I like this team. I like the attitude of seemed like the characters team Stevens Guy. I'll tell you something else. No one said this. I'll say right now Steve Little bit like that. The Guy who's running for president from Romania. They look alike. Say it and I think a balanced believe me I am. I bet that is a light toe into the world of politics. Berry Light Social in the finals. I'll say they're going to finals right now. Do I think they win the championship? That's different conversation then my rabbit. Six seven seven seven nine. Eight fifty eight fifty. We'll talk to you right. We back. That was frankly unbelievable. What do you mean I mean what you blackout? That used to what I read. I would think you knew hockey regularly. Hockey was the biggest was impressed now. Three notes from that one second exhausted. Fifteen minutes do that good so I'm just preparing for after the mind. I actually considered just doing that today. Really yes I would have been with you for an hour and a half crazy been great. I should have done tomorrow. Yeah you should have done so for when you say. Hold on hold on hold or like when you repeat yourself this five six times in a row. Are you just thinking? Well this surely kills five seconds. Well you know that all the whole dot back to the caller Yay appear like your little feisty. Okay if you're not afraid to to tell the caller shut up okay. I remember there was that it's not different than some of these fans who think that they're you know like important like I don't mean the good heart benefits but the ones who think they're the Keller's and the dill's those people yet. There was caller in Boston. He may still call. The guy's name was Danny from Quincy. I remember is so I was on show at Bradford in like ten or eleven and he called up and he used to think like and these species still may call. The Shit chose to get ten minutes in the middle of some random boring rant. One time I was a shut up your dummy. And he's like what are your call. Me Dummy seculow. I am fucking caller. I remember thinking i WanNa treat the callers like I did when I was a car. If they sucked tell Michelle up but the hold on hold on hold on is more of respect. That's that's that's yeah and okay so not take. It's ridiculous because when you say when you're making a point and then in the middle you say and Matt I'll tell you. Is that your way of saying? Save me because I need another human beings. Let's let's guys bullshit a little bit? Okay it's all part of the conversation and then my third no is just the fact that the guy called about the red wings. I don't even know if you knew that. Was You actual person? I think he has show that. I think he was waiting for anyone to call and ask about the rattling. Could you call recall before they break and they're like why are you doing this? What are you talking about? But they just no they just don't think to break in and they are part of the show and they all new to keep it. Hockey seemed a lot of hockey talk. That's my that was my weakest one. I was very impressed by that. I remember that two thousand thirteen Bruins Stanley Cup. Run I hate it. I hate watching hockey on television. Really Moore's me I hate it. It's boring it's boring. I like it. It's easy to keep up with the PUCK and we hate John Hated. Jerry hated Jerry. Actually I think like to watch it but was just bored by in the Games. Were so late and we're up at four in the morning. Whatever in that for and there were still that perception back then there the matter the Bruins do while the other station got bounce off which was stupid The first round they played the the maple leafs in the playoffs. And I think this was a strike year down in game seven in the third period. I WANNA say five to one or something. I think three goals. They scored in So they're up for two one four two one. I'm texting Jerry John. It's along goes texting. John's will be like this fucking. Don't have to deal with these guys. They came back in one made the finals which dragged that point always July six more weeks of having to watch games like midnight backed. I Would Watch those playoff games and there were times I would do. Tv after the game's not Jesus was fucking unbelievable. I would sleep in between the week. Yeah it has gotten out a couple of hours yet. In the very beginning I would back then I would never say no the TV. Because you know I did I would just say yes. Yeah so I go in there. Like twelve forty five. I know fucking thing about hockey and fell grabby like you don't know anything about this right back. No nothing nothing. I don't know I don't hockey's wants point. Never played it. I never really follows a kid. I liked those teams abortion neely and stuff but not really ended really watch it so I'd have to go in there. That's where I would be bullshitting like crazy and we tried to talk hockey. People would kill us and they were right to kill us because we didn't care about it and we sounded like we didn't know what the fuck we were talking. It was just sounded like bullshit and back. Then you felt like you had to go in especially John like while they play the night before so do our first twenty minutes on it and it was. You could tell all of us like we hate this. As opposed to just saying which was later on. They had full run to the playoffs. When we were number one I would just ignore it. I'd be like what if people care. Go somewhere else where they care as I remember. I don't know the Stanley Cup. Run or deep in the playoffs or something when it was just Kirk Callahan. We never did it and you guys were like. Oh people call us know. The bruins are in the playoffs. And you'd be like well. Why would we talk about them today when we never talk? I don't care I always thought it was insulting to the fans to pretend to care about it. Yeah if you really care about it. I don't know if touching richer whoever or greg hill I don't know or some podcast go suspend Chiklis. They fucking care about it. They love it and they're great at it. Spill pitched spent chocolates. Loves the fucking loves me? I would imagine somebody. Somebody tweeted out a picture. Yeah you're admiral was say great show Biz and and Uh Ryan. Great in and and Mikey yes great crew. We love those guys. Those guys are high loyalty list. I would think so yes. Oh good good. Marijuana friendly guys to don't seem like anyone over say bad words hockey crowd. They're just nice guys like a nice. He seems like a very nice guy. Mikey Grid Mikey Orono. I don't know if I've ever varying unicating super nice guy never met him here interviewed. I interviewed him for the producer job. At when I left radio DOT COM really a lunch with him at Pizzeria Uno in Burlington which is now gone With Rob Bradford and Mikey Grenell about the. He said saying it is a little I knew. Even then he's like yeah. I'm going to stick with the spit. Chiklis thing and go to New York as I put seems like a strange move though. He was still hear them. Yeah I'M GONNA go really fin chickens. Why would you do all right? Guys getting rolexes like I made the right booth but yeah. Oh God Ram Marathon. That was very impressive. That's some I could never do that. I'm just an all honestly do that again. I don't know what it's just that fake like a lot of work. Yeah but I could never even come up with the point like the talking points for hockey to just bullshit and make it sound like I know what I'm talking about. Wait you see the no one has seen one or two things. Yeah that's it and then you can bullshit your way right. Anything I always say. Troy was so famous back then too. You'd think that would that. Maybe was the easiest of the options right for short but I don't know if they're good this year. Not I don't either I don't like what is the federal off the people that you bench heisman. Yeah Nicer this way. I don't think I could name you interesting. I'm sure I could not name you ten players in the NHL to know surely up this way. Remove the BRUINS. 'cause I there I could name you ten players on the Bruins. No fucking chance. I couldn't do guys. I'm certain are still in the league. No I would be thinking because this guy crosby still playing yeah Alexander Ovechkin Yep Jack Eichel Yup Yup Mark Messier has gone twenty years ago. How don't believe Joe Thornton is just I remember right heard somebody might be treated the bruins right. He's not control the Brunch. No that was just bullshit. Four players all right. Let's let's not bad beg NI vague. Malkan Malkin's stolen league him. You know hockey on that sort. Not as much right now but Yeah that was my favorite sport. Grown-up I played hockey. Grant Fuhr Gone Gone Moke Regime Lynn. Reggie Emlyn while I was full. Name the bag name. What was what was the full regime. I think it was forgot about your Canadian heritage so I shouldn't they kind of split fifty fifty for a little bit. Yeah here's the thing about that. Caller you got two goaltenders you got. None took a starting quarterback situation. Nfl never works. You got two starting quarterbacks. Guess what Goose Egg Goose Egg spot. Greg sponsor the segment because that is Ghulam Ama- pay Windy Guy Myself. But you know we're talking goose egg city zero point zero percent chance of winning. If you've got two quarterbacks and I'm going to tell you about hostile on Sims team on the super bowl not a great example. Six one seven seven seven nine zero fifty eight fifty eight fifty eight fifty. Jesus I was on. Am could in two thousand eleven. I am true shit happened. They're like yeah. We're just GonNa you know do it tomorrow. I'm like Oh all right. Well it seems weird weird place got promoted not really GONNA mention to anyone. Nadal figured out of the really old people who fucking stupid change over fuck them. Well you're still. You're on both for a while right. I think so they sold the ESPN right. Yeah ESPN FIFTY ESPN except for mustard. In Johnson I think. Go on eight fifty. That said that's perfect. The perfect ending put shit. Show pervert that. Listenable of course would seem as watching. It was like super hardcore though he was like someone. Getting whipped cream whipped. It'll be with somebody like choked or so was like she was a young. She fucked up. I sat and watched. Actually I just I just saw the other throws like the the link still. Yeah that's like this is fucking. They blame me of course always plays be do we. How do you? How did that wind up on twitter so we talked about it at the time did I? I'm assuming what happens. Is He's an old guy. There's those buttons when you're watching like porn hub or whatever. Yeah there's the buttons for whatever reason that they share on facebook twitter yeah read is whatever the options operate. I can only assume he just hit by accident but the steps you have to go through. You would have to hit twitter. The twitter button. Then you would have to like the link comes up in your twitter and then you would have to hit tweet. This is so strange. They have that though. Who would think you know? I'll do. I'll tweet this out or low. Who likes it or anything like that or comments on the scenes? Yeah yeah that's true. Well the the porn artists themselves would probably WANNA share it so be convenient for them. So that's true that's true. I guess so. Yeah like brand new. Does that but it doesn't. That doesn't seem you would just use the link. It doesn't seem common enough that I should have the option of a shitty thing to do. The people really weird. It's funny. It's funny I did that. And he's the funniest. Most people listening to a religious just seems like a very religious. Terrible Broadcast Azure one of the worst shows of all time. You wouldn't believe how bad that show is but we should pull sound to that show at some point. Do we have extra sauce weaker though to be? Get that Ooh. I think that we have some that was pulled before I was in. Maybe Steve grabbed it. I can hold up. What what else do we have you another song? We've got a good one. Oh sure speaking of Boston radio. Oh you scrub the podcast. Clean because your Drama Queen and God forbid bad then heard something Let's see all this was very young and now your job is jeopardy die so maybe now you learn to stop spout am sneaky. It's just a three day a you'll be back on this Friday today. Cut this stuff in the. How could you be searches? Asli was it from working with Howie on your own. Deception seems to be your expert so please don't fuck up like this for Kirk will have to go to the producer and bring in Madelynn. His stomach good sneaky. It's just three daily. You'll be back on Friday today this stuff and a sneaky for this stuff home. Yes that's right He directed where to send who are nothing but a disappointment suck on by balls. Steam President. Reagan's you GonNa hurt. Most of all. Is that? Reagan is not on the side. That's gotTa hurt. Jesus ones are not from our good. Buddy the Steve's liar guy via the laws people things that were said by big made some comments about his own family erased. Ika Made Ben. Angry e got bucked by with missing audio you. Discover to reveal Steve's blunder. He enjoyed knowing. Steve's cover prolific Jesus. Oh yeah quick. Seaver suspension got a lot of grief for eighteen. Is Mitch Steve? Good have done these in. Just refer got a Steve's a mother fucker call them out as they show scrubber he wants to be replaced by the Some news today on a scale you man five say nobody can with. Us fucked up a man down on his show and he suffered was a warning to other that Robinson is no body sucker fucked up down under with more crimes. Stop by his brother. Adopt is ball's in the bolt cutter but Cranston could make grown man. No one very good at a bunch of those kind of like yesterday. I had a bunch of good ones. And that's a much better. I'm not going to put the Steve's ally over you on the just the sheer quantity just I would rank him above you well. There's a quantity thing but there's also a quality thing I agree. I agree on his his his pool or better than yours. Like what. What's better than Rape Stephen. He's a liar. That's a good one noah back I actually I know but you can make the case that your best. I can see why some people think some of his songs are the very best rape. I would say for sure. Sure I mean I've Mama Gears I know there's a great one. I have no problem with that but I would say to rank them. I would put matt very close number two. I'm fine with that but there's no. There's no shame in that. No not at all great. No you seem a little upset no. We've we've exchanged email. Is that right? Wow what's the sort of mutual respect between you psychopaths? Absolutely okay. Who's better. What are the emails? I don't WanNa trae what he said about me. But let's not general content. I'm looking for specific oath. Complimentary of each other. I think he's great and Elton John and Billy Joel tour together you know dentistry. We could can do a great tortoise. We probably should although I dunno with his musical. You can play instruments. Yeah he can't I mean right now he might be able to hear more of a song and dance. Man Man of Broadway flamboyant kind of guy well so I was SPA. Schoeman born showman. That's why I'm here. I'll just pick a random guy from history the liberace you know a more flamboyant liberace's thank you Michael. Yes yes off the MIC. Yeah well that's fine for Freddie mercury personally said I prefer Freddie Mercury but you can call me whatever you want totally most maybe the most overrated musical figure volt. Yes No. He's fantastic queen. Terrible one of the best voices ever. Nice voice terrible music songs suck awesome suck suck suck they suck and Radio Gaga? Yeah they suck. He's Flambe suck. So what did you do? You have a great about that. Fuck I can't remember. I Think D. C. O. Radio Gaga which is okay. Okay he just like Bruce Springsteen. That's neat doesn't matter to me But I I happen to think like I. I happen to think who suck but some of you tell them wrong. That probably wrong. Now there are three courts they're overrated. The Queen's probably great. I don't like you know I don't understand your musical tastes though. It seems like you have the musical tastes of someone who is ten years older than you like. Didn't you hit Pearl Jam and the Seattle sound like I was already Bruce in? I Love Nirvana for a while. Yeah but I got but like techy Grow Pearl. Jam To me is overrated. I'm done with two but it was hugely forwarded to me when I was ten twelve years old a little bit younger than I am to some big big music though. But the bruce that that stuff is like my mom my mom like the most one of the biggest albums of all time and the strain years old. Yeah I mean there was a monster record. So he still like the silver bullet band awesome awesome again. It's like Bob Seger. He's all right but but it's not like it's sort of bland. Who's your favorite musician? Radiohead is my favorite band. Of course arrange their two of their songs out okay. Computers is fantastic L. best down home. Okay computers the best album ever made her. Yeah I was wondering well. Listen it listen to it together as we trek out to the the show and cammarata drive out there together. What's going on with show? We'll see final Friday. Maybe who knows I put together my self esteem? Quick resigning. What's the thing about it yet? That's true as a politician. He would resign. Yes maybe maybe. He's flirting with office. Maybe he's doing a lot. Now I gotta say is run would be pretty tough after this besmirchment. Well I think it may help him though. Maybe it's kind of a culture that's true. He doesn't base protesting person protesting outside the outside the building. Much like trump whether you protesters tomorrow I walk ins going to be well. I hope you're not gonNa like the what the guy told us today. What's that fifty four percent of your downloads gone? How many as we said it was a rough as we don't know that for months though it takes a month to find out well. He's got the information pretty quickly. Who's a sore subject? Love to find out what this person is taking the temperature. Oh and he did he did. Tell me I asked a why. What's the point of like? Do you think everyone in these cars are listening. We'll just by statistics. Most people probably are all right. I guess that's the case. So that Kim fifty four percent I hope not Geez. I am of the belief that everyone will be back. I have no one's left but you know the people decide to check. I hope the comeback if they choose to leave them this play of other wonderful podcasts. Out there I suppose. I'm desperately need one right now. But that's that's okay. Nothing else on this show. Sometimes it's a pretty good. Well Yeah but when you get here shopping cut. I don't know what to expect wells. Who Got Matt? There is some great hill stuff that we got. I grabbed yesterday of him of John. Henry's for me. Did you think anything of a Djamil Hill responding? Oh Yes yes. Yes yes Should I not phrase tweets like that when I what I said? Djamil who calls? Espn raises. She didn't say that she did. Yeah Okay I didn't know if I was in the wrong she do. She debited the guts to do it. She can do her you know. It's an easy card to play the you know. I didn't say didn't technically say she's like I hate this guy and I don. I think she's blocked me so I have no idea what's going on. And then somebody Texas Coach Hill after you again. Like A. and whether she's she seems so I know she's got a bunch of follow. She's him so irrelevant now. Like I don't even know any that puts way. They'll be tweeted me about it. Oh really not a single tweet about one because I retweeted from the show. Yeah I was trying to think of it. She said that this clown is an idiot. I wanted to say something like if you knew who tweeted. This should be right. If you'd be correct yeah you know but but I mean she. She said yesterday she did it. Without shoes I guess in her mind the Smart Way. He did it without actually saying right. She can do. It doesn't matter she don't like each other. Yeah my show the beginning of that other than I mean maybe during the Jones stuff. I don't even know how well you guys trash. Their show pretty good which was house right. Yes right. That was yeah it was just so awful. Yeah no one watched it no so this free. Spn back then at least it was comically bad. Now no one talks about it at all. I don't know if the ratings are up and ESPN is done is very similar to company. Did a weird way almost in lock lockstep on this one. They were polarizing people. I happen to be pulling an have an audience. But they said you know we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA scrub them. All OUT LIKE STEVE. Robson HIMSELF DO LITTLE SCRUBBING. And then we're going to get rid of them. Gone is whatever social media in controversy in ratings or whatever but you replace it with you have to wear like I have no idea what's on. Espn at six o'clock. My guess is probably sports today. Just regular sportscenter there's play highlights and by the way that's the reason they brought the six on was because that formula. Two Thousand Twenty was failing. But we'll bring it back in or whatever it was. He doesn't seventeen to twenty. Bring it back. Who Cares doesn't matter and there are people who probably went up and it's like in sports radio like I said earlier. There's some people who want to hear some people who I guess on the TV at six o'clock and want to see what they missed today. Which seems very very strange to me. That you've missed anything over the last ten hours of your day you can check in online. Once I ground gyms and restaurants I I took voice at the Chateau Harry and I had dinner at the Chateau last night in on every TV sports center. That's what it is. That's that's exactly the clock they had. They have old sportscenter on and they go around and they talked to coaches and do highlights of games from the night before which just seems crazy to me. Yeah Okay here's what you missed like you know. We used to make fun of you know on on the radio during Baseball Games. They would say the pre game show in here. The scores from last night in two thousand twenty on the radio talking about baseball and once. That's because like it's fifty years old once they figure it out online so that like you know. Barstool sports or whoever can go live on a story right away and it's on everyone's phone or computer no. I haven't figured figured it out either but once that's all settled there's no ESPN's because the only reason you go to sports that are now as well all ESPN is rights though they get not going to have such a huge. They're never with adults. I mean eventually. I think it's going to be. Youtube is on exhibit. But that's the only that's longer than you think people in their forties and fifties still like that and they've been another twenty years of watching TV but everybody younger. I agree but I mean I think they'll always be a big rights stuff for for big games like that. I mean I imagine a fifty or super bowl won't be on. Tv maybe not maybe not TV. You'll just be different. It'll be you turn on. We have like ten different APPs to choose from one hundred different basically. There's a lot of people right. So that's though so this is the weird thing about like we're talking about ratings and everything yesterday and Jamaica has up a million point two hours sure. Well she's a national figure. I played shows like he'll just follower. I wonder what Djamil Hills tweeting I guess but no one gives fuck about it right on. Tv or relator never snows ever tweet when we fought with her in the past. Those ever tweet me anything. She said she has a podcast. I don't know what it is. I suspect that is bad. I never listened to it so I don't know yeah I don't i. Don't listen yeah I have no idea but I did see. That was funny. And she says she also fights back. I give her credit. You know she's a one person. Espn actually fought back. The other guy. Who's the Michael Smell drip profile about them? Actually was Brian Ringer. Guy In. She went at me in the story. Michael smells like I've never heard of him. I'm like Oh okay. That's fine you know. He's probably a nice guy and everything I mean. That show is so bad. Oh my God but they tried something different though. Yeah so it's like you want to kill them but then they do something different. It sucks and it's just die but now they've gone back. I guess to whatever they used to do and maybe they're making money. Who the hell knows. I guess I don't know. Got Matt Greg Kill themselves. But they're they're older. Jerry stuff cosme stuff yeah extra sauce stuff newer. No Yeah. Let's hold on that so we could get some context of what it is just wanted to play with some sort of some sort of thing so Yeah so I mean again just my message. The fans is fucking you know. Hey meal you want for this. That's fine bullets. Remember the real enemies are you can focus toward me but dachshund each other is not productive. It doesn't do anybody any good than asshole move does and that was an asshole that did it and I understand ninety percent of men. The fans are great. Even the ones who are disappointed with the Steve thing they come from a place that they care. So I have no problem with that but like getting like this weird thing where you're trying to ruin a WanNa ruin somebody's life. We're the fucking ruin. Sam Kennedy's life. That's that Sayer. Fucking ruined ruined the Boston Globe. They're assholes they're evil entercom. Evil fucking people supposed to mentors. Who's just some fucking guys guy? I mean the Nice of a guy is is he still on this week. Yes he says yes. Some things do address on Mike and the mad about a year right shed or something now he said he said. I thought Mike was Smarter. Which I said that's kind of your fault shift. Yeah he said he's got some things to address. I guess I said yesterday that I didn't like that. He was trying to be fired so I think he wants to address that. Oh yeah nobody was. Maybe not. We'll find out. I could definitely be the case because he says things like that. Like I want Steve off the show seriously like you might hate Steven show. That's than actively trying to get. This guy was actively trying to get Steve fired. Worse than that. I the only way to do that would be to like tell me stuff. I guess while. Yes that's what happened. Yeah but you know. I don't know I mean I mean the fans will be digging old audio and see what's cut dropped and that's fine go fort. Oh say about that. Who's on this week manners? Andy Mayo Boys Combative Show. Yes I believe the host of the MINNASO- show over the last night. Oh Wow John I think and I'm not. Oh I wanted to ask you about this. The team Robinson Guy that you've talked shit about wants to come on her show. Yeah your show. I didn't know I didn't know because we after the pistol pete thing we were like Maybe not people don't know really I don't think he's you can have A. Yeah that's fine. And maybe him has come out of retirement. Seemed like a long time for the week. Well we have some questions dancer. I guess I suppose limits great to okay wither. I'm thinking Thursdays only Wednesday night. Sure few days what's on tonight on Youtube Channel I don't know if there's anything new. Nothing no no interns. That's usually Thursday lady minute fans Thursday. Okay all right nothing sentimental. There's anything new on the Utah quite nine the Youtube Channel. Yes all right. So yes so Obviously thanks to Milton's the what the guys name we talked to O J J James James Yeah so you know Matt's back tomorrow. We'll get the big suspension all see last the suspension. But we'll see what happens with these protesters. Tomorrow could get violent. I hope not well I mean. Look these people care. I talked to them tomorrow or should I leave them for you to. I'm happy to address them all right fine. If they're out there protesting there. I'm not gonNA tell somebody not to protest. I you know it's it's absolute right to assemble as long as they keep it classy and nobody gets hurt. You know but then again. This real passionate is a death. Well I mean they're you know but they did. Yeah we're happy to address them Trying to think I feel like it's always like I'm forgetting one thing. I went to entercom right. How did that go? It was real funny. Well so what happened was af just got shut down. And they're on the floor. I enter through okay. So it was chaotic. People are getting fired. People are moving out to the last thing they wanted to deal with fucking me right so basically I just walked in and they were dealing with five of the things but she was on to me right away and Zarbano called up. I was watching my periscope because I hear I hear a go. Yep Yeah no that's him. Okay Hotel and she's like yeah. I guess I can't give you his email. I guess I can't let you downstairs are so odd. I have a meeting with him and then I just gave a message of you know why. I think there's conflicting reports suicide mental health. She took that to heart. And I'm sure it was sent downstairs. Well there you go and you recognize to people she goes. What's your name and I said Robert and someone turns around and goes Mike. How's it going? It was worth a try. These things are always worth a train. Don't hit home runs guy. I've not been that place in over a year. I guess right yeah. This should be there all right so I thanks to Matt as I said thanks to The caller is all the sports cars for bringing it Back Tomorrow Matt's a final day. We hope all due respect not wait for Steve on Friday Any thoughts from you matt as we wrap up the fours what I mean. I'm happy to be here. Our Leo's looking forward with much more comfortable with fellow shows much looser than I. Guess I think now is a little Matt Mike remarked in the car he thought that We sounded awkward yesterday. I felt awkward. You know we were talking. Sometimes we chat mccaren the wages. I drive home. The first forty five minutes was good yesterday. The second half was. Do you think we'd be more? We wanted to talk about and then we kind of just sort of stumbled and bumbled and I think I think anything to do with Steve. Houston goes like a you know. We've shows with Steve. Sometimes words a little awkward. I get an awkward but not every shows me the ratio of all time. Today show is much better than yesterday's. Tomorrows we'd better than today's and then. Friday. Steve. Can Ruin fucking you know it was pretty good with Matt. I don't know why Steve's Kirke Politics Governor of audio post fire in this high. We'll be back tomorrow.

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