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13: Joan: Artist Interview

Sounds On The Couch Podcast

26:56 min | 11 months ago

13: Joan: Artist Interview

"I am you'll hearst. Karen hiding and welcome to the sounds on the couch podcast. We are committed to creating ways of empowering emerging artists to move forward in their music careers and to provide you with access and tools and racehorses that you need to live a life filled with passion. Creativity h episode. We'll bring you interviews with passionate and knowledgeable experts within the music industry and independent artists. That are moving forward with their music careers. I look forward to sharing this journey with the for this episode. I interviewed artist. Jain giant is an up and coming near artists from granola. In sydney rides the wave of folk and country and singer and songwriter. She is growing up always being surrounded by music and would not have wanted it any other way through trial and era join found her sound and he's ready to take you on her journey. We spoke about the creation of who music. How the people around you can have such an impact and make such a difference on the development of your music and how being a female has impacted joined being a musician within the music industry and sore so much more. So i know you'll be exploring looking forward to delving into these so rank. Keep you waiting any longer. Allow jane thanks for having me. Thank you so much for coming on today Would you like to just jumping a little be an. We'll talk about a little bit about your background and Way you started your musical journey. Yes it was. As actually i used for teacher. He used to play guitar And i just thought it was the coolest thing ever i needed to do. It sir My parents got recent lessons. And then i just started learning guitar and my teacher said i wonder if you can sing and i was like nah. Probably not and then We song opportunity by ban. He was like oh you know you can sing growth. Let's do it so then Just kept going to lessons. And then when i finished school studied music for two and a half years and then I came back and i started working at school. That island from He offered me a job. And then yet i've just been that ever since and now i have my own band and yet i started writing when i was fifteen And just kind of recording exposing myself to gigs and all that kind of stuff and yeah. Now i'm just playing and teaching music is vow and Just gigging yeah. That's pretty much. The album music dotted fantastic. Say yoga talk. Election has grown behind him started so amazing collection. I just bought a new one. Many baby fillon I guess what do you enjoy moisture. Bet being a musician. And what was it that made you decide to get serious about music am i. I'm not like a super creative. And i'm not gonna Or anything like that. So music is a really nice outlet for me To express what. I'm feeling all someone else's vote. If anyone tells me a story i yeah. I find it easy to say in the song And if i if. I didn't have music as an outlet at i would but yet it just it helps may have closures in situations as though Sir yeah that's how it interesting that you identify and to identify as as a as not really a creative person because you being to rot. Those songs is a very creative process. And so where did you. Where do you feel like you learned the skills to be able to run a song so my seeing teacher. His name is craig woodward. He taught me how to write and he really pushed me. When i was fourteen fifteen to start writing and then i just always carry the lyric brooklyn around To quickly jot things down a journalist. i'll try and take things for my journal into singing off. I think of a lyric or put it in So that's i. I'm so thankful that i can But yeah anything like related or colors. Anything forget about it. i can't do. I got to roll icon. But again like i love to or colorado something just because i love to express myself through different. That's great and i guess you were able to lend the song right so you never know. Maybe what's the next thing for you all my breath could be. You'll biggest musical. Inspirations michigan's michigan's yet. I fasten the think of Even not just in music but just the way that she presents herself. She's so humble onstage and offstage in has stage presence. I've always really looked up to. I've always tried to really be Myself not a different person on off station. i think she's exactly the same And riding is just so raw and she would be top influence social amazing so good So you've recently released your new single and your music video. You're ever to tell us a little bit a bat. Well festival what it is and what it's what it relates to and what inspired you to put out into the world yet. I've right looking for years and years ago and kind of over the years. I've released like different versions. And when i started to get serious at the band i just knew that it. It was a good song and it had potential to have a good story behind it as well. So i ride I think i really had anyone in mind when i ride it. And it was a real. Just remind us to be in the moment when you're with someone not looking to the future and might know bay forever but for right now. This is what i've been looking for And hopefully the other peasants looking for it as well and then So yeah jumped in the studio with a good friend of mine jacob And kind of as the song sending each other demos backwards and forwards. On the more i listened to the more i source story coming to laugh So i a girl. Amelia crawford on instagram And she has really good short film that she did mindset And i loved that. And then so i kind of took an idea to her and she just brought into laugh. explode with kala and failing everything and yet best start hoppy on how it turned out amazing and so where can where can people find the video. They wanna go and have a look so it's on youtube so if you just stop in giant looking view it'll come up there and maybe if we step back a little bit. We didn't talk about your band. So reggie let to maybe give us an idea of how how you came together and and the idea of band started. Yes i i. I had never played with a band It was always just made my guitar when i was growing up Don't know why. I think i had is like feed. The band's made serb allowed noise and like everyone's doing everything but then as i got older and further my knowledge in music and my skills i realize that always say the band brings things to laugh. Everyone has their place so everyone in my band. Actually i work with old. Music teaches at the same school. So jacob is also map usa and he normally does medal screaming stuff and then like you can totally switch to produce like my indie stuff. So he's really great then my basis lauren. What she is amazing. And i actually met her when with chain through scouts and then just kinda kept in contact My drama lisa is bright. She so say Great musician and my case is Daniel and he studied at a union adelaide. I think james morrison Uni So jazz focused But yet we get along so great in every. I'm kind of like if you have an idea. Let's talk about like let's shops the psalms together like it's not just may in your As as a way. Join sir Yeah i think that's a magazine the diversity that you've got in there and say obviously it's an indie band but then having that that heavy of feel like the heavy background and the jazz background lacombe show that brings other ideas that maybe you wouldn't have had otherwise yet definitely Makes may want to be a better musician is because they'll be nutting out talking about selling and i have no idea some sort of thing all whatever So convex may want to be better as well and cape leading. Educating myself Which is good because they push me bay better yet fantastique. So we took the evidence that we take us through a little bit about what you'll creative racist looks like when you're on a song. Yeah it i think it really differs. it's changed as i got older When i was studying. I had an acute h way So i kind of had time to sit and rot poetry or Just little lyrics or big spice to music. I feel like i don't have time to listen to music at the moment but normally normally how come up with some sort of guitar thing just super basic And then a melody will come to me and then lyrics. If i'm stuck. I have an idea. I can always go back to my lyric book. Save slut in. Yeah i never. I never brought on the computer. Ada is just made by. Always handwrite seconds. Scribble everett But yeah i've never been one set a record demos and kind of do it like that. It's just unethical. Because it's always just feign may. I haven't had a band so riding is just with me in my guitar. And that's it. It's as simple as i don't wanna make it too complicated. Say yeah. It's just like a super basic process that i just find. Were things fit. I play a good song. Comes out of it. Yeah no that's great. And i guess it's your time as well to really be able to develop something that means something to you yet totally. Yeah yeah and. I'm always super proud of any song. That right or release So yeah something. I can have to so once you obviously you. The main songwriter for the grave for the band. But he's saying you else that does get involved in any capacity or is it just sort of once that songs being complete. I've i take the food song jacob lyrics and music and then jacob boob right a lot of the out kind of have like an idea of what i want to sound like in the that i wanna use And then jacob boutros kind of take that and he hey rats of what of the guitar pots and yet again given lack an idea for a drumbeat and then he just brings it to less So yeah it's it's really between jacob the writing process really and how he found for lacing during covid. I know it's been a little different in sydney. But you've still banquet affected. Maya say yeah. I like music wisconsin to fasting to go and then it was also the first place. A lot of people looked confident in lockdown so it was really hot. We did a few instagram live. Gigs and stuff like that. Just to kind of keep myself in check while. And i had so much book for this year. does maintain Hates videos to as Yeah like much like you said before and But then it all kind of got pushed back. But i think in hindsight i think it was better than it got pushed back because jacob benign could really slow down and really make sure wherever releasing west super happy with And yes oh everything. Got push back And i i feel like. I don't know what i'm waiting for. I haven't a waiting to be released but unlike oh and not yet. Not yet not yet. I don't know why i didn't. Yeah it's i think it's like an unindicted thing. I don't know what's going to happen next year but wait yet we. The video was really hard to shoot during covid because of all the restrictions and it was super superset. set anyone that was only for us But just to have the four of us in the one place at one time Was hot we kept having to push back again. I think it really gave his time to make sure we knew what we were doing. And what we wanted to show in the video and how and where certain Yeah it was kind of blessing in. I think but as as super excited. I was like i just want the song at of the video i love it so i haven't noticed and i guess it's really interesting like what you touched on before. All these musicians have had the time to really develop them. Easy can to really Time out which i think. It's very interesting to kind of think about what he's going to happen next. Yeah do you have any Ideas of what you think is going. What the music world is going to look like as things sort of become more open and prevalent. Yeah i think. I think we've been kind of lucky. In the fact that loud music was kind of Not dying but like a lotta people weren't going to live music. Venues went booking live music anymore and now that people haven't had that so many people that i stay away say a just wanna hear alive band in a pob and i just wanna dance to paypal to live music So yeah it'd be interesting to say. I mean we. We've got shows coming up so alvin news back and booking with different restrictions and whatever and obviously you can't dance But yeah. I'm not sure how will look next year. I think i think up getting back to appreciating live music so it will stop the ball rolling in doe more Walsh is an staff festivals. Not for a while unfortunately That'll be well appreciated when they come back. Definitely which is like right for everyone. Because i like whenever i play show even perico. I always to say it's like a help may help you situation like you love loud music way. Love doing it. So let's work together and kind of get the get back up and running exactly. Yeah no i think it. You're you're right on the fact. I think it's going to be so much more appreciated yet. Definitely sir would have baynes some of like if you take it out of the equation. What pains with the other Some of the biggest challenges that you've had to face as an artist. yeah. I think unfortunately being fame out. I've had gigs. Stripped may left right and center because I'm not a rebuff smell to whack the room and all that kind of stuff So that's really tough. And i think i was a really like smacked me in the face because i thought as i twenty twenty lacombe west still doing that Is that i think you as well. Yeah they wanted to grow. Dos mail to walk room And yeah i was very mad. But yeah i i've had that a couple of times Which yet really really frustrates me. but other than that. I mean like in the cuisine incident. Music is fun like ever super supportive. it's a real community so other than that i. I think i've been pretty slate. Had a pretty good run. Which i'm very grateful for. That's that's amazing. Yeah thank you for sharing in regards to being a famous well. What do you think maybe needs to happen. within the australian music industry needed maybe ten. Some of these around its ethic. It was just such a male dominated industry for such a long time and even like sound produces stuff like that. You always think. Oh i kind of wasting males lack. Anyone can do anything and the team that i had for my music video was all girls. So yeah. I think yeah. I didn't even know. Because it shocks me. Every time that i have to think about it or i have to think that it's an actual injustice tightening. So now i think just like education and just nice just a good person. This A divide between between any gender so yea Sorry got me a little bit off. It's like it is in the music industry because everyone's oversee creative like wanna say what we want to say but Yeah it's it's odd. Yeah it is very mench if everything aligned fear and you went the euro dream direction with your music. Where would you like to end up. I wanna be a katy. Perry don't want. I don't want to like be. I think i think. I just have little successes. Along the way. That enough. So i would love i would love to to and stralia and wherever it takes me and just keep riding came getting good music out. S m be proud of the music that i did. I put out and music videos. Love bringing the story to life so just kinda keep doing what i'm doing A boom happens sick if not skip doing fantastic and sorry. You've i know you just released your single and your film clip but when when can people expect a more music to come at an aide. Said you've got lots in the pipeline yet we've I had a meeting last week with amelia. The director where we're saying if we really knocked down in hustle we could get one out before we might thinking like mid december but the more we thought about it. The more we thought we're kind of just like pushing for the sake of having content so bad new single a new music video clips next year So yeah i'm just taking my time to write the stories and make sure that it's exactly what i want. Fantastic unser from your experiences. What advice would you give aspiring artists. That might be watching me so might He music what. What could you tell them from your experience. I feel like it sounds cliche. But you just gotta hassle. I'm not like super Going to be big gotta make it happen. Like i'm gonna do everything i can to make it happen. I feel like i just kind of like. I'm going to work as hot as i know i can and i know i have a team that i trust behind me Think surround yourself with people who make you wanna be better who inspire you to be better and who networking lack. I have so many different groups of friends over lack in every industry. That just Maybe i can help them in nagin. Help me and Yet just constantly try to better yourself and Been good at your. Yeah if people are wanting to start to get into the network he maybe it's something they have really been doing much in the past. Where do you think could stop. I'm studying which was really nice. Because i had i went straight from school when i hadn't really been around such like minded people Who adjusted slack subaru gravy. People really lovely great at what. They did unjust for three days a week. Always think that was music or music related. Things said that that was a really good starting point for me. I made some great relationships there I think during not going to gigs Going on gig guide and saying what's out there for the weekend Unite like listening to podcasts and raiding and all that kind of stuff really helps just kicks kick. Start your inspiration as well. A new motivation to to want to do it and to want to keep doing it. It's amazing so is there everything else that you'd like to share with audience before we finish up and also where can people find g. on instagram during music facebook. Youtube don't do twitter identity. Santa's i got get around that But yeah on older shows and and youtube say yeah and spotify and music you can find all the music on streaming services. I hope you enjoyed this episode. If you have any follow up questions. Please reach out by email. instagram facebook. We would love to see you get involved whether it be through an interview on pug cast a livestream performance. Ovarian article on couch maga- online magazine. You can find all the data files. Www dot sounds on the catch joke calm and the links will be included in the show notes from this episode. Commitment is to continue to provide access in valuable information to help you move forward as an artist if you would like to support us financially with this project please to sound on the couch dot com slash donations. Finally we would love to some of your jedi. Please do send us a message. And let us know what's been happening in your mexico. Janney see you next time.

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Idris Elba Will Voice Knuckles in Sonic 2 - The Nerd Soup Podcast!

The Nerd Soup Podcast

1:07:05 hr | 2 months ago

Idris Elba Will Voice Knuckles in Sonic 2 - The Nerd Soup Podcast!

"Do you still feel weird about coughing and public No now i just do it because it's like pretentious to pretentious is do i mean i have an idea. Just it's like you're you're a dick the the teddy dictionary i'm pretentious. You should drop your own dictionary. You're not pretentious. You don't know what the word means. use it alive. I put guys rolling down house right now. The best way for you is a stubborn really. Call you pretentious. I know the meaning of potential. Just can't explain it. But no one's right stubborn. Join today monkey. You're right pretentious right right but what's your on people. You use it to describe somebody. Coughing public like i think me coughing in public isn't a big deal so i do anyway. No no it. Doesn't you know what it means. But you just can't apply that's your problem and yeah teddy the teddy nerd soup and we're back to talk about the role of would show me your oxford degrees. And then we'll go from expert decrease. I i want the teddy dictionary. I want you to publish just what you think where it's actually like in bogo like on about like in. Yeah really pretentious with it though on twitter with my hero academia. You're pretentious tweeting about a show that i like that i caught up on you because you haven't watched face pretty much. If i was basically a word you used to you apply to people that just annoy you. People not coughing in public. Because they don't want to bother anybody that bothers you right. Okay well you call in public. But it's like you're all through a circle doing a big circle to come around to that was you know you're not right at all. Getting more pretentious can be dick. That was correct. So you kind of your fewer there. You're on the right path. So many people from for public to see people's reactions you're going in the right direction wrong. Pets weaving in. And now you're on the to thirty one. But i got. I got off on the wrong exit it back on. But we're here to talk about hollywood new gps. I don't wanna pay toll so it's a weird way for me to get their video games to your trip but you're going to get there. Listen to this podcast on. Itunes spotify google podcasts. All the homes for podcast and of course on youtube and follow on social media. Nerd soup teddy nerd suppo soup nerds monkey. Not sure about the order. There and yeah. We're here to talk about. We got some stories man. Us weekend box office. Some surprises there. Our top story involves Beloved video game character teddy's excited for that and Yeah we've got some other stuff so news about the boys. It's always fun good. Show show that. We all enjoy when i pulled up mississauga's at the end of the block and i was nervous. Said he was going to be making his rounds. Are didn't want to get like an ice cream coincides with off softy. Wanted you ever pick up a couple cone mississippi or the landscapers. I pulled up. And i love a good ice cream a lot of commotion. Do you know what i had recently. it was japanese shaved. Ice cream mango flavored. Oh i wonder if shave ice cream to get from like hawaii was like spinning thing and like they shaved into the same thing. It was really good. Yeah it's one of the best things. I've tried namco. Yeah why don't you get like something. Good like mangoes strawberry sherbert ice cream. The my son ice cream now. It's like a italian is okay but better. It's like a combo. Yeah it's like a combo. It's not as as firm as an italian ice melted which i dig. But it's not as smooth as ice cream. What is middle. Actually this week for the first time in a while and boy that shit delicious it is is good up your stomach dairy this weekends. I tell you what i'll tell you. What man atom bomb being dropped off my stomach advice creamer. I'll have to often. So when i do have i have a button. It's like the hardest thing like now that like like doing like going out in like eating ice cream and other over the weekend. I i weigh myself friday by sunday. I gained like legit eight. Nine pounds. kneeling yourself go. No then i get back. It's like an endless cycle now. Because in the week i lose because all like water i guess sniff and then i lose it by friday and then we can come back and put it back on now. This cycle now the goal. The goal is to get past this weekend and not show this weekend. I got stuff to do. Also let me say. I'm just going to eat like shit again and then should be endless cycle and then summer's over and then both season so i can eat whatever i want. It goes right. Yes okay season some fat again. I cannot wait. i can't wait till that. Go myself. And i just not care anymore. Did you give them. That look like already started. I was looking at it. Hanging out of the way. Mike primarily kerry. It's found like since. I've just been dieting for so long. I never like sweets. And i just find myself craving things that i never eat interesting. I'd say i'll see like. Oh my god like us like oatmeal raisin cookies. My matt which i can eat those never in my life have enjoyed an oatmeal raisin cookie. I think you can have a. I love them. But i've enjoyed some good ones. It's a it's a rarity in this house. Subway has cookies man. Somebody could the is all donald. Mcdonald's chocolate chip cookies very good. I like a good cookie. You know what's like the best cookie just a cookie. You bake cookies. Yeah homemade you make. The was the other thing too. I was like oh. I was like italian place Branch desert newer. Like italian pastries my whole entire life. I i don't like the time pastries. I don't like him. I don't think they're good. I don't find him appetizing at all. I ate like probably the whole tray. And i was like this shit's delicious like that. The you getting shape as kind of broaden your horizons for what food you like. But it's i just i. I probably wouldn't like them either just like in that moment. I'm like wow like any type of lake kid going on with your body. I don't know some spice from dune you guys. It's a shame you guys in redoing before it came out. The thing is like we're actually. Here's the thing. Like i wanna watch doing i and be like oh i like it so now i'm going to read. The book is going to be more of it kind of know what happens but like i said yeah i guess because no no. That's more of jesus upset that everything's spoiled for wanting the day when you use coming of age unpretentious in the same podcast. It's gonna be appropriate. It's going to be like kind of ironic. Because day he does. He's gonna sound super pretentious. It's gonna happen like without me knowing like i did it. I'm just going to say like how. Sometimes i make comparisons without thinking. No you're going to do it like you did This is a cheap. Yeah it's going to be correct but it's his could be so awkward all right. Let's move onto the. I two quick. Follow up from my Bowling fiasco oh no Finally got a w. so things are looking up in in monopoly. I thought you boys would be proud of my all. My god a luck game dude skill athletic because i followed the bowling performance with getting pretty handily mini golf. She's and shame. And so. I needed a w put monopoly is like you know i felt like that. How long was it game. It's a pretty long game. Four people to like i also see that's always lose so atlanta monopolies losing. Have you ever been elena. Monopoly played twice. And i lost. Well aaron his mister. It's a skill game when he wins and it's locked is hundred percent because it was a big moment and i got a little cocky with it which i think was well deserved. Flip the board. Who do you think you are. i am i the. There's no better feeling especially in person. We used to play on the playstation. And like the in person one math for you when you see somebody in person struggling to get to the amount of money they know you like doing the math in their heads sandwich cash they have getting the mortgage bankers giving them money like they're sweating selling the houses. It's probably what i would feel like. It's a problem with. Rockefeller felt like they were doing what they're doing with twenty no. It's destroying small business. What i think like hardcore like probably satellite of satisfaction. Yes nothing beats it just watch. That's why kobe we said he'd like playing on. The road shattering arts and yes shabby heart. That's the way to do it. That's one of the best well when it's your team. That's the best sound in sports. It is a crowd so fun more normally for me. It's just watching the bron. Silence always loved when he sounds is a boston crowd. Get silence though. It's the fucking most devastating thing. We're not an island again. In the playoffs and the bruins scored overtime place. You know the worst a revised this when you're home the silent crowd but you hear like that little the scattering of the other teams fans. Everyone just talking sprints out all right well. Let's go to the first store here. We have address elba. Damn he seems to be doing a lot disappear in and everything and now he'll be playing knuckles and sonic to. This is very much in the office. And he was the one when he was the boss. That's funny and kelly's like slow too good looking to charles kelly's obsessed with them. I'm aware it was actor. It was more character the office. Yeah kevin malone almost had him crack them It was good enough to to keep it in but you can see his face. that's hilarious. He really can't do anything. Yeah he's great in dramatic roles. Obviously iconic roller stringer bell on the wire. Justin suicide squad is able to lead an action. Movie had some comedic chops in there as well. I like him a lot better when he's when he's funny. He's trying to be funny. I think every blake. Is this something about like. I think a very serious and just being like funny. Oh yeah it's like now. It looks like it's just looks like it's so effortless. Yeah like oh well yeah. There's more to him. He's not just looking guy he can. He can chop it up at the boys. It's more label when you just like some big handsome action story like fuck guy. He's a very good voice actor to I thought he was great as the villain in jungle book. Oh yeah that's the news right. He's be voice knuckles right if it sounds similar to his performance in jungle book it is idris elba but he was very good in that role. Very intimidating scary voice is a villain he is an ally to sonic entails but these are kind of a dick. He's a tough guy of the group. That's his name is fucking knuckles coming in. Sonic that's even. I wasn't that good. Though i was i think enjoyable i thank you could call it a success can you. I do from from the standpoint of box office. It wasn't the most critically acclaimed movie of the year but enough critics liked it more yet. Areas dont'a robot neck. It is a funny like it's like they should've kept the original face of what of sonic. I'm on that team i am. Why wasn't that good because the court tuned face was to core. You think tells and like 'cause we got tails at the end. Do you think that the redo back character to tells us the boy right. I think tales. Boy i always forget pika. True is due at least ashes katrina so we thought sonic was like entails earth thing. Maybe it's still candy. But like i just growing up. I was just kind of like when you're a kid like dogs. Boys cats are girls right right. Even though it's tails a cat and science tells fox now knuckles hedgehog shadow. First-phase bit kind like crack. It looks like a little sonic on all this like make every like every like voice have like the sickest cast of all time. Sonic starwood address. Then you get like so. Won't even bigger details actually do great sales than they needed shadow. Right jeremy irons hollywood. You're not in hollywood right now. Who should voice james morrison. He's going to be in this again. James morrison okay. I like that would've margot robbie voice james than she could pull that off. Who's a chicken chicken vigil sonic. I forgot her name. She wears pink donald tales. She's is she a chicken or she's a chick no she's not the a girl is there's a. There's a girl and sonics pink. Sonic i forget what animal she is looking at it. I think she's hedgehog. Sonic maybe well. I mean it'd be rose. Let me say yeah. That's a hedgehog. She'd been get more robbie flare d. thick afire though the d. thick of falling in cartoons. That is going on right. now. I mean it's while the older people watch these cartoons right right. Yeah that's they brought in the audience appeal to adult yet This incredible this is sorry. Could be respectable this coming out. April eighth two thousand twenty two. So it's right around the corner like erin said they still have casting here. I imagine they're not going to keep the voice actor who voiced tales that the experiment as a society like no matter what they use for like the knuckles animation. Worst like this looks like shit our we have. Yeah that was a great moment for people. If we won now forces were all. I guess the workers. They probably got extra money so that was good. Oh yeah definitely they were compensated. One is hollywood. Never come it's see ever. Not those workers actually care like they put out their product and it got so completely shit on. I'll tell you why i changed. Pitched a concept i. It was probably like got super depress. His life's work for a at home to spit face. I can't imagine home watching the trailer. So excited right. Connie says years of hardware finally got my. That's my sonic zayn. I can't imagine that if they kept the original design the movie would be any worse. I don't think them spending that extra time and extra money extra resources on making him look more like his video game counterpart figures that like he just saved yourself. You want as fence not we. I could care less about sonic But the sonic community was like. If you're gonna do things we like you know. Make sure give us what we know what we like right. And that's a great transition to our next story about the so. I imagine that you're on planted firmly on the side of releasing the air. Because that's what the fans want and when people on the internet get together and complain about stuff. You should acquiesce their complaints. You know what. I'm you back into the track here. Yeah i skipped topics to get you in that way. Let's bring out the air. Why i feel like there's a difference though. No there's a difference difference being is that here's the thing you want without on them. Cut the whole the whole race just to get the well. It's different because the a or cut though the sonic thing they didn't have to do that with sonic like i said. I don't think they brought more people to the theaters. And i don't think they made the movie better. He's got the suicide squad trailer and it was news that like it came out pre movie that the studio fuck this thing up and screwed with his movie and could this and that and before release there was a huge outrage that and like push for air to get his caught before. This movie came out then. I think that it's more closer to the sonic situation. This is like if five years past and they kept their original sound like aside and people were like no. We want other sonic. I'd find that ridiculous But the thing is with this. Did you see like the script release terrible. They've all been pretty terrible. So it's like. I'm sure like green shots. The thing is i'm firmly on the side of directors being able to make their vision and not have had a little studio interference as much as possible. But when it's from a movie that was five years ago and there's no like well now he's claiming there's two cats too hot cease claiming there's his cut that they cuts that they tested with focus groups and then there was a second cut. The fat cut not has nothing to do with batman. That's just a term that they use when a director's cut has been altered by the studio the bat cut was also tested would focus groups. And that's why they went with. Initially he said this is my movie. This is my cut. There's no director's cut right. That's what he initially said. He's being the good corporate guy. What i don't understand is listen. You're not the first director to have a studio interfere with your movie. You won't be the last but you're david air after this. You went onto direct. Bright lot of people didn't like it but it was a netflix movie with a huge budget. And i'm sure that if you wanted to make something else you might be able to get. It made your established hollywood director. Why are you living in the past it is. I'm firmly on the side of directors getting to put together their vision without any interference like erin said but it happens and you did make a movie when we were talking about. The snyder cut. The argument was well. They didn't bring it in a second director to finish situation to have the opportunity to finish his movie. Air finished a movie and it wasn't great and maybe the studio did muck it up a bit but this whole campaign a lot of the fans are. They're not even film fans at this point. They're just fans of the snyder universe. They just want anything that has to do with that universe stylistically aesthetically. It's all about maintaining that universe. It's not about whether movies are good or bad. The way that they were review bombing the new suicide squad. That's that's why. I feel bad for james gone because now it's become such a top. Toxic conversation tastes shy away from him. It takes a shine away from him. And we'll talk about box office movies not doing well at the boss oil or even talk about the old suicide squad. You hear things like masterpiece in like it's amazing and it's fantastic and this was so great and so yeah so i don't it's they diminish the new suicide squad saying the other ones better but they think there's a better version of that out there. It's a i can't get behind this one. I had been annoying to watch on twitter. And you're not really helping you argument with some of these screen shots of the script and of harley quinn and dead shaw kissing. Some of these awkward scenes between batman and deathshot see writing is super hard and like airs. Probably better at that than any attempt. I could Probably writing a movie or putting together. I mean he has in the past. He's made like good movies. Started as a screenwriter. Yeah and he's written great movement furious training day so like it's like wait a minute. I respect mika. Obviously he's good. But like when i when i was reading it and obviously you know reading and seeing things play out. It's completely different. But that's that's scene was just nothing stood out for me from that seemed to be like. Wow now i want to see this and it was very like the riveted. Not derivative but like the way one of the senior joker puts the knife in harleys mouth. Like i guess that's like a owed to the joker in the dark night. But like still like i just like whoa just didn't feel like that's something that i wanted to see or have any need to see right this year. There's nothing about this. That wants me to see them. Release an cut we got the suicides. Rox i love dc and if they made one they did come out. I would definitely watch it and they're not going to do this again. You can't just keep giving into fans whenever they demand something insider cut was. You had a relationship with this guy for many years and he did bring you in a lot of money. Even if some of those movies underperform they still made properties at dirty by china russia and not waiting for and give him time to finish it exactly so they they had something to make up there. They don't know david or anything. You're an employee you came in. You did your job you were compensated. Zack snyder like you said. They rushed that shit when they shouldn't have and not only did it hurts x. Hurt them because the justice league thousand seventeen movie right. They fought the universe and they felt their pockets that movie crash and burn them. Movie didn't make a profit and that was on them for interfering for speeding. It up but with this. There's there's no way one of others is going to do this and they would be foolish to do this. And at this point fans. I need to get over it. You just got a good version of the suicide squad. Maybe it's not by david air. It's unfortunate what happened but come on then you just. The movie just came out the new one with similar characters and actors at times better. You pretend that you're you're supporting this universe. But it's it's the same characters on your review bombing this movie. They're not film fans they're just babies guy. News warner brothers. What they tried doing. James gone to try pushing the pg thirteen on him and he refused and studies on making moving lots of our and they step down like they back off and let them make movie. Yeah well with the way. The box office is going. I mean i guess we should just move onto that suicide squad. How to seventy one percent drop off in week two maybe with the pg thirteen rating or maybe if it didn't do the dual release. Speaking of like. I think if you're on hold any of these problems. They can't hold him responsible though right. That can't use the climate and obviously with you probably can't announce that it was going to wait. Forty five days until premier access. So hopefully we'll get a better indication of how much the simultaneous stream and movie releases. Hurting these films will really bothered me. Though was the deal the amc deal you see that and hear about this say made a special deal with a with one brothers right to exclusively play movies in their theaters for a certain amount of time. Yeah which it's such a shame that it's come to this for theaters right. See people saying oh this is like a step in the right direction. A good thing. This is fucking awful. Y or they like i. I know covert probably. This is probably inevitable. But not for even have to negotiate. These deals is just. I'd said and it's gonna. It's not gonna go well. It's not going to have no bargaining chips. Yeah they're just have the theaters and like the addition making these deals to begin with. And it just sucks. This is the way it's going because obviously studios care about the bottom line and look we we. We don't get the numbers we don't know how much but clearly it's fucking working. It's beneficial to them or they wouldn't be doing simultaneous releases. Something that'll be making deals like this. And the fact that they are says that like in order in order for it to make sense for them financially to not simultaneously stream. It's like you need to put a deal in place with us for exclusive access. And that's what we're getting and it's it said. It sucks well going to the to the box office numbers. It's interesting because the highest grossing movies of this year are movies that have had the dual so movie like free guy which only came down theaters made twenty eight point. Twenty eight point four million at the domestic box office. This weekend is an internationally. it's done If it gets close to fifty million don't breathe to came in at number two with ten point six million jungle cruise and number three with nine million respect. The retha franklin movie made eight point eight million and the suicide squad made another seven point five so like i mentioned suicide squad. Had the seventy one percent drop off and you wonder if you can attribute that to the dual release has got your door loose. Think to theater you mush in the second week if they thought they would be making more juice regular theatrical release and they wouldn't be continuing with the simultaneous. I don't think yeah and what's marvel but then legend that a movie like suicide squad that costs almost two hundred million to make i mean are they. Are they really benefiting from it being the second highest. Maybe you said like you're right. They have to know by now. We'll just disney have been doing. It was just like an experiment for disney though waiting the forty five days of shanxi or is it just they know that this type of movie is more beneficial to have the theatrical run. Because it's going to make it's gonna be worth it for us right. We don't know what the lesser movie they wouldn't do this with or movie with less hype around wasn't in trouble for saying that. This was an experiment. Now there was The actors playing shanxi was disappointed by that. But i think it was. I think it was insane. That shanxi as an experiment and just maybe the model them releasing isn't the don't they want. Don't the people involved wanted to have the theatrical run. I would assume i hear actors talk and they say that they want their movies to be seen in theaters. Yeah i think. He took offence when there was really none there. I think it was more the ceo disney saying. We're making shit up as we go and like you said this guarantees at changzhi. Unlike some of these other movies isn't going to have a dual release. People were very upset about mulan. Mulan came out in the heart of the pandemic so they were kind of backs against the walls and had to come out on disney. Plus those the only option with shanxi. It's the opposite. It's not getting the premier access deal. It's just coming out in theaters. And you don't know if the thinking is it shanxi. It's a new character. It's an origin story. It's guaranteed to make seven hundred eight hundred million. We can't knock that up by putting it on earth for thirty bucks. We make sixty million the first weekend but who say how much they make in the subsequent subsequent weeks or maybe like. I said they're just making it up as they go. We'll do forty five and see how it does. Black widow didn't do good at the box office like if black widow was mocking disney plus to me that that guarantees shanxi would have came on dizzy. Plus the did they just want to mimic numbers. Go off of what the studios do right. Yeah you just had the fuzzier reasons what they're doing and there's certain like an each studio seems to be doing something different. Yeah yeah back in the days when it was movies theaters. that's what it was served a couple good vhs. Hbo continuing the simultaneous. But only not doing it wanna brothers but only not doing it if they have deal in place tells me that it's working but disney doing the forty five day theatrical run by itself with no deal in place tells me that maybe it's not working. Yeah maybe because they have a price and it doesn't benefit them in wonder brothers not having a price walls drawing blow away to thirty dollars. It's also more reason to go see the movie though in theaters. Because there's like more of a pressure to go see it in theaters because you have forty five days forty five days of seeing a movie when everyone else has seen it. Many fucking variables too many variables for us to discuss. But i think that was a good topic weekend box office. We'll continue to see how the how it plays out over the next couple of weeks with different movies coming out obviously got some some big ones around the corner To yes i'm really good. You know what else i'm excited for. Know the boy season three. Yeah me too. Yeah we've got some new details from showrunner eric. Kripke soldier boy. And how season three is. He's going to be the isn't going to be a season three hours. I knew i was surprised. Season one he always does things before everyone else you would think. Well he is the first superhero so yes older boy the first superhero and he just gave some details so small details about how the they're going to use soldier boy to explore the history of the boys while also exploring the future Like i mentioned he was the first mainstream superhero. He's there captain america. So what was superhero society back. Then we've seen watchmen take on classic. The golden age of superheroes right when they came up in the fifties sixties icons and by the seventy s and eighty s. They were just political tools. So in what way was soldier boy manipulated. And which way would. What way was he used. What type of war crimes as he committed. because i'm sure he's got a list of them and How do you pronounce the actor's name ten the supernatural elim Sort of your time to shine was just got fucking belted in the face. I wish you would have the frozen rope. i would've. I figured that was key. You've watched all eighteen fucking seasons have been awhile since actually watched it. Isn't that jason jason. What which wanted us to of natal's right. There's jensen echo and lucky. I think he is the perfect passing. Just based on his nichols. I love justin. He looks like a dude that could have existed back in that time but he can also play a modern day. She can play historical douche modern tusch. That's range he. He is due. She in supernatural. Yeah and to watch him. Go up against homeland. I think that's going to be fantastic. He's like the first homeland at right. I don't know much about his powers. These perfect name. She's everything about. This has me excited for season three. Yeah me too. I think i i. I really don't know too much about character. But yeah to see that kind of glimpse into the past and how kind of you assume like with going to draw a lot of parallels to our his three in terms of maybe Soldier exploitation and kind of the co Going from one thing and then you know as time went on using it as political tools and corporate interference and kind of rebranding. And all this different things you assume that they're gonna tackle that and related to our world and that's what they do best. It's kind of the saturdays -ation of our world using superheroes so Yeah so. I'm just it's such a good show and i i can wait for the comeback back. It's been a while right. We should've obviously kovin. Probably mess things up but i need somebody right. This is one show that you just put like all faith into the showrunner. You just not going to do a great job yeah layers. i'm excited. There's no there's no expectation from do bed like you just not going to kill it. Yeah after those first few seasons definitely you have to give them the benefit of the doubt. And like i mentioned at adding more layers to this world. There's so much that's untapped about the world. We don't need all of it. But there's some interesting gaps that they can fill in with this character going back and going forward where the the world will just feel even bigger. I think that that's not a criticism. I have the show. But sometimes i wish the world condensing a little bit not condense it but if feel more so when there's consistencies they they got into that. Obviously with the origins zavod and the the former nazi scientists who was dating storm front. I i like that. I like when you give me some laurie. You don't have to give me a whole bunch lower but some of that can ground the story in their own reality. And i think soldier boy is going to be the perfect character to do that. And it's interesting because we also have the peacemaker series coming out. They sound like similar characters. Peacemaker paying a just a dushi super soldier type yeah. He's not super powered. Obviously and i imagine that in the peacemaker show they're going to explore some similar themes to what they exploring the boise. I guess he wasn't just john cena assumed was he was so fucking good in that role man so good. Let's move onto the last story here. Talk about so good. Brennan frazier in the midst of the bredon and frazier renaissance here. Is there like a cool way. We say that now. Mcconnell science the phrase ons in doesn't work age of frazier. The age of frazier was not bad. We'll come the better for the better in the comments will send you a sticker. Golden age of frazier. What we've already had that. We lived through the golden age bronze age returns. Me wasn't the mummy he was in the mummy. The mummy returns returns the those movies. Get ready to get for fraser movies. Typical like rainy day movies or feel movies. Those movies will always remind me of my aunt's apartment. Because i remember they always used to have the resident evil. Yeah those watching those movies so good on my aunt's house to br. He's getting hanged then. It gets out of it cooled. Hell he is so cool chick shiny now all of a sudden fucking johnny bravo and the free. Somebody said that he would the perfect casting for on charted essel years ago and he would have that pitcher he looked just like nathan drake. But this is awesome. He joins more scorsese's killers of the flower moon. This movie that we've talked about multiple times on this podcast. It's about the killings in the nineteen twenties of the osage Individuals who happen to have a lot of oil under their land. They mysteriously started being murdered every time we talk about this. I feel like you're hearing it for the first time. I remember while coincidence right. Yeah well the thing about them. Getting duped no not not in america has got to be safer. What'd you say about. This movie is about them. Getting dupes and like murder viciously yet to right. I guess if you get murdered you were duped. Yeah but dupes. No they were told they need help timeshare they to manage their oil money. Yes yes a lot of get murdered in different ways. They try to manipulate them. What's interesting about this casting is that he was very good. It sounds like he he may have. Obviously it's a scorsese movie. So it's going to be a drama. But he his dramatic trump's Chops were great in no sudden move. He displays detroit. Gangster set up deals intimidating. And he was he was great and that it was good to see him in. What was the movie with Elizabeth hurley when she's the devil. I don't remember brenner frazier. Okay i know i remember. That's a good movie. But i do remember falling in love with elizabeth early in that one. Now brennan frazier no. I thought georgia the junk. Just yeah toward the jungle. Man i used to be my shit. Apparently critics aid. They don't like it. They didn't like it when it came out and solicit hate for them. I watched that movie for the first time in a friend's basement and we had burgers and remember when they sell those fucking all day. They said the catch up with that was different. Colors like purple catch-up green cash. We put like purple and green catch up on a burgers night so george was a quiet day. Bedazzled dazzled yes. I'm not gonna watch that. Can you show me a picture of private elizabeth early. Who've she's it's like it's not even even right now. She's still very very attractive. The kind of looks like a. Did you notice that the woman who owns this soccer team until lassos septa The septa shames up to. Yeah well she's got search her. She's really good. She is good. I love tied lasso. But as the character and ted lasso she reminds me of survey. I'd looked at the address. And i was like she wants to be so much of lena. Hiti like looks wiser. The way they act but she's like their mannerisms but once you watch like there's more to that character. No i'm not saying that Personality just her. Speaking reminded me of lena eighty. She's a strong presence right screen presence just like her like the way she's built reminded me of lena. Hiti taller obviously talked about it like actually lasso and it was just an absolute delight. Yeah that's coming out on wednesday and Between that and my hero like a lot of wholesome content ulsan really good stuff. Did you tweet. They're like everyone loves that lasso. Because it's about a guy being nice and that's basically science fiction these days and the first response was like not only. Is he nice what he's competent like give. That is a man that does not exist. I need our incompetent. Man i think like season three. Keep it fresh. it's like i. Will he gets a soccer team to the promised. Land go coach knicks. see good. You really be hilarious at the best coach in league though. Toast all right thank questions. That's for the fan to the side. People you call to the show you better be red supposed to do off in trying to spell your name and all of this other stuff. It's not just show it's fine. I'm giving you that opportunity to speak him on. Don't call a p unless you've got the question here from nick de good question at the film rx. What's your most anticipated. Adam driver performance of twenty twenty want a net house of gucci or the last tool has gucci for me. It's just the vibes. That movie gives off him and lady gaga more excited for gaga on that the trailer ran Was that trailer release on the internet. I guess it was but iran. Before free guy. And i was like. I haven't seen this goggles. Good she is like just liker gaga fan. Oh no. I'm a huge fan lover. Music Volley hydro comes on. I start to fucking jamming math. True paparazzi suck and corn is a fucking bang. Just to it it's like it's a classic that's when you listen to the lyrics like there's a lot of a lot of meat to it. Yeah it's not just your generic pop pop singer. She's good at being lady gaga craft to it. It's not easy being gaga. The last tool looks like maybe the worst movie. that's ever i. i dunno go somewhere else. With what do you think. I was gonna say abuse in england. It's like ben affleck. English are good. They're good for now for this. I just like in this especially movie like this. Like if it was matt damon and ben affleck in like what is called boston boys right. I'd be like yes they like. That's not going to distract me. That it's ben. Affleck and matt damon the factor in like medieval setting. And it's ben affleck and matt damon. Mind is i cannot get past that also not even trying to do accents. Oh god just on the loca is this serious. isn't real. yes that's it. Looks like a troll. Looks like benefits. Go after looks like please from tropic thunder. The the vince still character does only shitty simple. Oh my goodness adam driver. The worst like see. I think adam jones if you walk into like a gas station in west. Virginia you'll see right and he'll be laughing and coughing like that. Do you think this movie can surprise you. Gazes four eighty. It's gonna look like it is three big big actors. Follow the trail wasser trail that. It's even worse moving auto body shop and someone that starts playing your auto body shop guy. Looks like matt damon. You go for an oil change. That guy tells you you need a new transmission needs to happen that a jew for nausea. And he's like He's your confessor. Shot just pulled in. He's like yeah. I heard i heard your come on. And he pulled like this gadget out stuck in my air compressor and like the like three bubbles popped up and there was like markers like markings and he's like. Yeah you know if you look at this like these. Three bubbles are no good like there's going to be all changed man. I'm so lucky we have a family friend. who does it for. There's nobody could told by that. The worst So what is it adam. Drivers accused of assaulting matt damon's wife and matt damon to defend his honor. duels him. Yes that's like a big thing in a trailer. He's not doing it for her doing it for him. So he's a deck too so she's like yeah. Okay and ben affleck's king. I think so okay. You know what's annoying is that this is movie. This is the one. I wanted to see adam driver and this motion here sorry. The woman claims she has been raped by her husband's best friend don't but when no one believes her. Her husband challenges have trying to a duel. Did you just not listen to our. I did but i was just like reading what i know i know you. Are this question here. This actually a good teddy question from photo fox that why what superhero would make the best blip story. Okay story there you. I know you love the blip. Jesus says before she throws pencil at my. I want i want to be Hawkeye just because of what he will what we think he went through during the book right turned into a real rugged guy tell half sleeve and his hair here's a very straightforward guy too and he seemingly got his entire life from member in a. What's the Hbo show with Danny mcbride the telephone. The preachers the televangelists. Oh ah the righteous trump's so i just gemstones it's like when I forget his name but the the sister's husband's like gets the earing change man. Now right talk. I just showing up with asleep hawkeye or smart hawk. I want to like what made smart whole turned smart. 'cause i wasn't a fan of the that whole transition. I mean. i enjoyed the smart. But i needed to see wise. Why here's the way he is now. I feel like a deep like introspective on thors depression. Scott like we'll get real dark with it. He was down bed. Give us give us like the real thing would never do it but that would make some interesting. No more depressing. Tv for mobile. Loki in wanda vision of depressed me no tv. In general this time going on right now. Immoral ted lasso. My heroes like really really needed that. After loki in wanda vision again. They should said the not. Now i'm said ted lasts though. I watched like he's happy. So i'm happy watching hindi. Abby an intern. i'm happy this question here from What is it better supporting this. Maybe now you therapy. What is it better supporting. Tv performance. peter dink tyrian or aaron. Paul jesse these guys had a couple of times at the prime time. Like good as it gets. Who's gonna win especially after season four. I think that was one hundred. Paul one and i thought that was peter. Dan coach's best best performance. And it was. It's like hard to. It's it's like to have somebody else win that year and not be a robbery to speaks like aaron poll in that role broncos like that was you can only be so disappointed right. 'cause i mean that season for the season so like i think that Was it episode seven. But he gives a speech was probably his the four seven six or seven so season. Four is one. Is what the viper in a mountain right. Yes oh yeah. Tearing gives a speech speeches so when he's obviously that was. I'm i wish i did had to have been the episode. He's nominated for Little laws of gods and men right. Yeah so like in associ- fuck directed by scream. Save another play written by lee. Tell it's like one of those. It's another it's another whenever you see like a good like a good like dramatic necessarily election to not a right. There shouldn't touch. I think he has done other. Tv to he's none all of the boys but like i said like after seeing that it's like oh no no way someone can beat them then. It's like oh yeah paul. The breaking bad and he's he's pretty good at his job. Also i have to go. I saw having damage. But it's just it's it's. I'm going to go because i think that that show needed his performance. More so than game phones needed to be great. Yeah that if. Aaron paul's not great will the original plan was the kill him off right and he was so good that they kept them on such great chemistry with walter boy. Do you think that show takes off as much as did i wondering If it does. I don't think it does. I think a lot of the show. The entertainment value a lot of the entertainment value comes from the relationship between wall jesse. They're on the same side when they're pissing each other when they're trying to kill each other when they love each other the the way that there are kind of they meet at the fork in the road and go separate ways but even when it was just seen him just lifted the show up. He's got some incredible episodes where it is him to the badger. Right the episode with the little kid. Everybody loves the episode. When he's talking about. I mean shoot the chemist when asked shoot two chemist right when he opens up to everyone at the the aa meetings. I want to try that guy's coffee. Oh man i love my one of my favorite lines of the shows like what the hell are. We making math. But ticklish was obviously super important. Probably the best actor in the show. It's so hard man became zones. If if ticklish was just like but that was also sees right frown paul. Yeah yeah. It was a final season when they went up. So yeah the last chance dink got what four or five four now three or four emmys fourth mean they were either. There was gone. Heaved english is wanted every year. You season fucking eight or season seven. He deserves deficit for did he went and season it. I think he might have season eight. Yeah i think he might have because he wasn't good. They need not getting anything so good. Pardon season it was. Maybe this question from jay lawrence at sauce served mr wait a minute. Should i just disconnect from the internet. Avoid all news and maybe just live in the woods. I'm so tired. I've been taking substantial. And that's like a huge breaks. But like i haven't been on like as active four needlessly checking my twitter and instagram. All the time. And i tell you what. It's you miss a lot like. I've missed like three good memes. That are probably could have capitalized on but and news should have should happen. Shit's going on that. I don't know about but it does. It does help you lot. I say stay away. I think there's more to life than just everything on the internet three. You don't realize how. Like belying. Like i would just be on my phone just beyond twitter for like all fucking day or it's like a habit checking and like when he stopped doing that and you're like wow none of that none of that really matters and it's the have a nice release. Yeah i if if you wanted to a disconnect maybe set yourself. Don't fully disconnect set yourself like maybe like an hour dinnertime or like an hour after lunch. You check your phone or you. Check your socials. He'll crazy if you don't if you complete disconnect yourself being so accustomed here you've got to be prepared like most of my news. I do get from twitter so like but having a balance. It's like oh. I don't have to be on an old like all day. It's going to check at the end of the day and see what was going on with my job right now. I don't have a long time to check my phone. Which i kind of like now my old job. I was on my phone. Twenty four seven. And then you miss out. And you're like oh i could make a funny my fault plans delta variant the now. It's too late so now i just gotta shit on the whole concept as a whole so this question here. From whom era. When i saw the green knight and the fox started talking. It freaked me out. I was super baked then lost the trailer and they show the fox. Talking trailers ruined movies. I'm glad i stopped watching trailers agree yet to some respect ruin movies. There's something to say about. I remember when star. Wars is coming out and nick. Monday was adamant use appearance. Screen junkies old time on not watching any of the trailers he wanted to go into it completely free of of any promotional materials so that everything could be a surprise the first time sitting in theaters. I think that is the way to go. It's harder for us because they want us to talk about trailers sometimes though when you watch a trailer and then you watch the movie you forget about what you've already seen and things kind of sneak up on you. I think that even in agree night that happened to me when the fossils speaking out still. I knew it was coming. I was so freaked out horror movies. I watch trailers too much. I like to it. The premise and the actors. I'll go see the movie and game. I think was they show. Lot of jump scares in the trailers. But i don't like it. Get sue point where. I stopped watching promotional material back in normal time. So you know when you get close to one of these games or star wars and every commercial was like new footage new footage new footage and by the time. The movie comes out. They've already released thirty minutes of footage across all trailers and tv spots so it gets to a point where i tried to avoid it but even a movie like dune. I think that would have been awesome to go into it. Just completely blank. No preconceived idea of what the movie is going to look like. You wouldn't mind. just sorry. he can go well. A lot of trailers like you said ruin the movies. Yeah or like they they hype them up to what they're not gonna be no off off-topic my mind just played a little connection game. So is doing david lynch Mahala dry being four k. criterion citizen kane criterion cover. The that cover does look incredible. Just a k- it's fucking awful stands for kane i i know. I like minimalism. Dennis show pitcher of kane. Did you just recently. But like a minimalism. Yeah i did not i. Did you like something with minimum. Maybe he definitely did a minimalist can say it was like you liked it. We'll find later too. I old movies when look sites are just black green and white tax. Well first thing. I saw like the killers. Logo is just okay. I'm like them like what the fuck. That's what i thought of by the way released a new album super depressing. So i always hate that too concept album ma small towns and like opioid issues. And i'm like ooh like it's good in theory and it's probably a good but it's like i there's no mr bright sides on their nothing. Happy nothing. I can like jan now too good album but spending a little bit more request requested at the club. Yeah no So that was interesting. All right one last question here from. Hello kitty jesus. I heard that they may swab by coca dots. Polka-dot man's death for what would have been rat catcher to steph. Do you think they made the right decision. Absolutely yeah me too. Absolutely polka-dot man. James gunn is so skilled at this where you can give character a supporting character and entire art and one movie and him delivering that line at the end. I'm a superhero. And then he gets squished. It was sad. It was also hilarious. I wish it was more heartfelt though kind of like a group situation where it's like the rest of the movie is like funny in like not a serious but for that moment it got real serious groot and like and i guess totally it's more more be more Ridiculous and hourly more comedic than guardians was so way more absurd and made sense in that movie for that kind of played a joke. But i feel like there's an opportunity to really. They could've tug on the heartstrings. If you wanted especially character like that who was super psyched to die like that's what he wanted to do. Your heart strings finally have a hero. Maybe he doesn't wanna die anymore. Then he dies like that's super. Yeah that's yeah. That's why i like it. It's very. that's why it's hilarious. Yeah they and they'll blood. Sports reaction is great too. 'cause he can't even he doesn't even feel bad. He's just like another shit. Everyone's catching canton bodies rat catcher twos appropriate to keep her alive especially because of the relationship. She has with bloodsport as she has more to doing this. Maybe even more emotional. But i at that point i think characters the heart of the story. If you kill her off you look into. Make your your fancy sad. He didn't really need that. I think that will fit with the tone and more of like if that happened to ran like switch spots. I feel like that would have been more. Yeah that would have been even worse. Kind of been would have been off putting almost. That's like i like when senator alexa death life would go to. When black widow died it. Seemed like they just force black death us. That is still a death that has never made me sad black widow. I was just rooting for her. To kill hawkeye be. It's like come on. Come on. Joey shouldn't you. If you take this cast out now and his look them if if you swapped wreck astra to. It's just elba king shark polka-dot and margo and margot robbie that doesn't seem to that ratchet. Being in there is more appealing than polka-dot man kept them alive. I like you could just cut them alive to is Just power the polka dots. The all right. We'll take one last question question. I'm at a. i'm c. Green on instagram. More excited for the upcoming nba or nfl seasons your early favorites to win it all mean football's king for more excitable but the knicks are making me very excited for mba. Now they do at least the summer league. They look really good summer league. Like it's like. I know the jets aren't going to be good from just still excited for full. Just look to does that. Well someplace good that they surrounded him with some good weapons davis known sinisa. Don't don't even say that to a jets and just let them. If it happens it happened. I'm just saying don't build them up because he's that up now you can keep them up at night tonight. You don't think he goes. I have a chance to do anything. i think. What's anything all right. What about what's worse is under the jar but like jars of the same way. Johnston looks good to got. Delta comes out to jones. Yeah and they'll all comes down like no matter what happens this year. It's like we can go six and eleven. I finally finally finally getting used to that. That's also disgusting. Finally season offers for six and eleven. Four in thirteen regardless. Zach wilson shows promise. That's like a successful season for you. Dana jones doesn't show anything. You're just starting over again. And that stinks as someone. Who's been through many quarterbacks a quarterback the quarterback aerosols three good ones in the nfl. If we're being honest everyone like studs right. It's just impossible to be good. If epetition matt ryan for twelve plus years like or stafford like. That's all i want and need brady rodgers. I don't need allies disag- is was. He wanted two championships. Do yeah you never had to worry about the position. He had to worry about how many interceptions he was gonna throw but he was going to be there. He's gonna play that's all you can. That's what you hope for. And you wouldn't mind having a rogers or brady. Give me somebody who's like middle. The road i can say is like elite. I can argue for right that. Give me somebody like that. I need somebody like like any was on the jets. I'd be like that word from like no not not any now. Fuck andy. Dolan bengals andy dalton when he had like those eight seasons of like he's good but he's not good mood the place over here just like that. I can spins on them into a top five quarterback right. Just give me a chance to do that. That's why lebron mess up not come into the next because our fans would have been so obnoxious would have been i think by now the consensus that he's better than jordan by everybody he's coming on a few years. He seem overcook enough msg. I'll take brownian lebron early. Favorites buccaneers for nfl and If the nets get hurt. Nixon the nba. I got that. She's reloaded on offense man. Every other team like just gets hurt. Run like last year like the bucks at did she literally like two thousand. Eighteen dallas cowboys. Long imagine the it gets eight. Rogers have you stupid. Green bay fan. I really don't care but he could. I wanted to have like a fucking season. That'd be fun to get another trip for just for his legacy. Yeah 'cause he's. I don't get too hung up on the championship argument. I think it's across all sports. It's so overblown. But rogers just because of the way narratives go these days. He needs at least two just away historic gone with green bay to be nice if he wins one on this. I don't know if it's going to be his last season. If they went in. I guarantee he would just come back but if pretty gets eight. He's getting too stupid numbers. It seven's already stupid that's just sickening. Thirteenth super bowl of twelfth. Super bowl brokeback. All their starters even thinking about the seventeen game seasons like the stats like now be nothing so he could have only right now. We're game nine. Innings patrick mahomes for fifty five hundred yards but like an extra game to readjust max. Rotations of numbers happened in baseball rent. It did happen in the nfl. Only twelve games as to what was seen. Roger maris's people were still he's still the homerun king to me ten rings. I can make the argument to beat the eagles. You can make the argument babe. Ruth is still a homerun king. Roger meyers took a more games to get the sixty ryan right now and everybody else. Sixty one was Juiston homerun king needs to be based on. How many games babe ruth did. that's the homerun king. i don't i. Don't i think you can give the connect adding the extra games and say better competition you know. Even though roger marris's only like forty years after ruth but actually it's kind of a funny like sixty one. If otani got sixty two he would be my home run king he's gonna get it. Also take it dan. daniel tosh says dead. You can't believe him quoting down bit. But he's like like screw beirut he played like when there's no black people out of the play it's like how many home runs it would hit with. Ccc bath ninety five mph slider. That's true don't sleep on the and he's the athlete eat. His swing is putrid. It's very similar to bryce harper swing. Have you ever seen the slowdown. Have you seen us slowdown. I wash a lot of the how tim kirch. I could strike out babe. Ruth to swing into in ten tons of steel can make that sports fans. I miss mall. i was thinking about the other day. They'll make close. It was like all right. That is two pockets for today. We will be back later in the week. Thank you for joining us for aaron teddy. I'm bo oliver signing off good podcasts. Good stories hope. You had a good time listening sweaty. Yeah mizzou. I was interesting gas. We're done what was it. Nope hear about all the great players who weren't allowed to play baseball because before like jackie robinson broke the color barrier. Just wondering how they like if they were in that era and it was integrated before way before then like how the numbers and stats and who would be the best because they separate all the statistics and it's like this guy hit eight hundred runs but it doesn't count and i wonder how yeah. Who like would babe still be. The top or satchel pages of like the world will each euro if he would've played as a twenty year old in the via the head king without a doubt shit like that people think people consider him the king. Scott four thousand career hits right just combined both of them and that's a good league. They say that league is a step above. Triple a step below mambi not love about baseball the history so much other history and like numbers and all these names you know about no other sports. Sport really has that that nash. No fucking way so bad. 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S2 E38 LAURIE KENNEDY: In-Demand Jazz Drummer and Drum Teacher, who has worked in Television, Radio, Musical Theatre, Cabaret, Jazz, Rock, and Orchestral in Australia.

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S2 E38 LAURIE KENNEDY: In-Demand Jazz Drummer and Drum Teacher, who has worked in Television, Radio, Musical Theatre, Cabaret, Jazz, Rock, and Orchestral in Australia.

"Music is to get to where you are. b heels. Lift her welcome to the band about podcast series. Joining me in the engine room. Today is a musician who has worked the who's who of the entertainment industry. He has been mentioned in many of my previous interviews To him being an in demand teacher lecturing for many years at the norlander type and the ad lied. University is my pleasure to welcome. Laurie kennedy welcome lori. Thank you for making time to chat with me today. I thinking russky Talk to you on. Just glad that you could make some thomas great. We're going to start from the beginning. I believe that you were born. In sydney that correct craig's yes Yes in the western suburbs of sydney And there for about Twenty ideas before than the cuff. While lifetime in in that light. I k- what your parents saw any other family members musicians will solta. Mum used to play a bit appear. Because i'm going back before television Has that same where people the idea. At the time it was many people getting around a different places and everybody has a piano and Been somebody get up in playa bit neighbouring single and that was my exposure to music at that time a dictator cannot playing all that terrific Could end the time buddy together Having a good time at the top from that now. I didn't really get into oncoming to music ram Knows is all amongst said all this and the should Something useful and put me on kano which i enjoy. That was the Piano jason that took me sir. The host greg Grade we used to guide to sydney conservatorium in Exams there to fourth grade. I been very young and doing stupid. Things i kept on falling over and breaking my up and so it couldn't guy for the exams so they gave up on me off to that. So my neck's exposure was probably pronounced fourteen. I went to A new swelled sounds else ahead. What the co place boys clubs. He should account aaron. Just find something useful to do so. They had little five drum bands. ago with the drums and so it was a There that taught me a little bit about that and that sort of with was was enjoyable for about a year or so. They've been Those was suggested. I go enjoying the lego brass which was which is a berber municipal bras and and that was great that i just goes ahead a uniform in the drums and and recruiting experienced. Because you learn the basics not to learn a of raiding and yes. I enjoyed that as well. They were actual actually bay grade champions at the time so it was a good good quality musa's but does through that ben I met a guy on one of the courts and eastern introduced me to jets. That me started into that area signed. So when did you get your set drum shunji let's About sixteen as funds could thing sixteen was very very basic set of drums advocate. Even handle light in the by strum. The gets of i. I then went to a teacher Who was actually a gigs name. Gordon lakonia Related to the nicolas's down to that light In he was this pick trauma in in the australian. He was working too. Many many many is at the typically stated becky oily holy shows some of them would insist on him being to around the strategy within the he was so good. Good with the That show which side story which show you that. Are he actually side. Read the pot. The first rehearsal Amazing such a fantastic greeter and So i had quite a few license regime which is good and then After that just doing well. At the same time i was really doing. Trade actually fit return to megan by trade so That was taking up a lot of mathov as well on till i got out of that. Got through by in dangews than Jimmy out playing a bit and that was back You've heard of the el rocco in the city. Was the jazz club of the time. Why backdate Doing one nine week down there and there was a distance. This guy beck before your time to show Win coffee lounges. Were woodsy seemed as quickly brought all the young to Knives and it was advice. Cool began by when you can So has they have requested. Cheese with aggrieved stories with that but anyway Getting onto a got to adelaide We get to that. What was the first bond you joined relatives from the the The the i actually vittal. Who was actually banned but key was with the lady and obsessive playing canada when that was on drums playing at a tennis club the social that was the first one but Sexual gay is the the first main then was at the l. rocco which is The warren Late roy trio and we used to do a saturnine nine saturday night. Stay than then. There was the the candidate quartet which is at comfy lance jones. Talking about Good that was good. Got to a stage where there wasn't much worried about. Then somebody said all this This job for you that you have to gail to seen read music and to full-fat harmony On done give it a go so enjoying Tent and which was great experience in the months. After i join he got to go to atalay and we picked up everything in the whole group later. Reworked appraiser nightclubs for about five years and that was in sixty. I is that ron. That's rough. kiss. The with that was wearing time mcgann out the paprika nightclub and which was great experience others for about five years. Because you hit to thank floor shows a great job really big Goes of his six nights awake seven hours a night. That's that's a lot of the way again. That is quite a lobbyist and that was when world tied back in those days but the the thing was you had to beyond the Wishes because it'd be two weeks have influenced at says they later. The band He he was very very good musician. Just come from europe and whereas i thirty to nightclub bands over. They were the rage and he used to have he would write arrangements of the popular tunes around about at that time and yet them out it. Just ask the vanden. Stay unique to your todd in two weeks time account. Oh okay. I didn't have again The melodic so i had to play them along. They tried to learn the pilots By they head to get long had one rehearsal and then plant thought. That was the challenge because through guy. And everybody's like freshman highlights type homilies very close how many so So it was quite a jealous fit particularly who's on the go ahead about the way recited recite. It didn't sound too bad excellent but that was quite a experience during the that will the playing the different styles It was quite what a bank decide to stop taking a n e c I don't know what inspired me they. i think. Probably somebody else leads. Because i started teaching at public grim as right but that's a private school and ice sat of teaching a away to a black prize was teaching there at the same time as well as Some pages yeah. I enjoyed teaching beckon. Those is actually started. That the Nolan get type and attained us and that's where it started to get some really good young talent coming through And then a long short standards that the versity teaching oster Teach said and those for study to use a long time isn't it was his abed. That was really really very dissatisfied. Because that's way i was able to help and work with a lot of the so many of the mazing untalented the dramas serene that light at the moment. Just just incredible skype bike to see that. Vote come out must majority A done so the playing so well doing great things playing with greg bands at thirty a very satisfying city. Yes what thing when particular player jimmy. Johns now professor University of nevada. So he's he's done extremely well and and in a lot of red town a doing things. Yes we have a lot of fabulous tremors. He ended up late that you off they development and spain enjoyable being positive development. 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Are there any that you'd like to share with us today. will say i've enjoyed all the different styles of the thing But my but Chance and I've been lucky enough to be the right place at the right time to work with so many all the Danger at the time when it very good time when there was a lot of jobs about musicians were getting work around a lot of Coming through town a lot of his in the eighties. In particular back there was amazing. Mount of jazz musicians coming through town as well as missile van. Amazing billy ross usually got the chance to to work with because that will picking out rhythm sections in different towns where they go so lucky to be in the in the town at that time so as to play long too yes stories It's just incredible the outdoor But there's one in particular single woods quite amazing. He's going to have to mazing. Alto plan book to to play with him. The teal rutger up-to-date the creole room up into a sidelights. 'cause you you'd be fairly young you cover be Butlers these knives which deny but not head a lot of the mentioned With my off a guest so off actually born the year that you arrived in that light i love. You had no idea who they are but over. We're very big But yeah with some woods were booked to play with him out zehr. And we'll wait. We had no rehearsed will waiting to do. The show was about seven thirty we still had needs amid the guy and it will waiting around nervously and does see what was going to happen in kota tonight. He arrived in jerusalem that old rights. And they said oh. This guy's schedule byron will have to apply and We did and Then we got on the dick conscious The thing was that he is so in control of everything. Just with these playing year exactly Golly we didn't really nate rehearsal resume. You just have to keep your ears open. And he where he was going musically and that was a great concert was was really good. bad Yeah it was. It says so pleasing to be out playing behind somebody. You need the rehearsals Here these music for his going. It's just amazing that i've enjoyed plight Various chance people has been great Enjoyed playing with a lot of the like like even musicals on the dental of those in the pit That's that's been enjoyable because we'll take guys you set your jumps up into picks on your organ Walkout again for two weeks and so setups changing and setting up another setting a bad. It's in in those musical is if there was like the facilitator. Tell us to start in that light. Because i laid head these amazing warehouses way. They built all the sets. And i build them. They stopped the whole show had identified. Move around australia so we were just through. The defense can headlight. atmosphere By you become like a family in With a 'cause everything was a great feeling. Yes we're day of the theater in the past size yes it slow tubes like dislike. It isn't going to try to make like a family of scribe dom in other stories. That don't actually gotta appearing to play these ibm's notices Weeks before i'd be listening to all the various facts trying to the standard The idea of the style of backing Would be heavy and tried to get that into my head before we're actually going. Stop playing with a gladly everybody's saying to really enjoy Al backing which is normally cannabis dramas and occasionally annetta musician. Object is amazing. Bob jeffries and quite often jenner was blackout of Various vice france from adelaide as well and it's quite happy with the backing the takeout so that was a good. Yes good other things. So enjoyed breaking the fifty orchestras well and they were interesting tons. Because is very nerve. Wracking as well but jelly. In avoid woller times the the people orchestra have been really welcoming and make you feel comfortable. That's really good bad. Just a some funny tallinn's particularly Working with tell me with the play. That's when you're doing more The light classical things. I would need a rhythm section order or a drummer in Schone told me take with what the drums right under his trip. Which would mean that you ride in in the middle of two violin section. So you giving is set up for the first rehearsal and the little lady with the ladies where been devante sexual Say you went too loud. Will you know west play too fat. Doug was Jimmy the drums. Our digital ao can't be allowed Show is Times legitimate joy. That when i got in there and tried to impress got a brain. You hit on on my sleigh drum and When you get a brand you hit is very bristle on top. And i really need to be sanded down a bit so i started not several laugh. But i'd forgotten to do this in the first rehearsal. This section came when i had to play with brushes and Owl's was so embarrassed that some fantastic enjoy that but as the jazz is loud and So lucky to would was a semi. Does people fiber will say His bad Balancing built jackson will. That was great. 'cause he's the legend but he's new strict on what he wanted. Not murphy was great to work with charlie bird on this whole. How stack at the the. We've been very very likely work rhythm. I'm but what did you do in television lori. Will those money back in the early days. A first so television show did research Like teens think and it was all on a kids. Show things channel on kids show and it was Desmond He had a tally weekly show. That's but they would say a kenneth nyquil Who had a spot every friday. I think it was and he just had little tree. So we we were there and just play a couple of numbers for the kids. You've very sort of screening very commercial time the same. 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All that sort of thing had said wednesday that I wish i had better control of pinault's lot younger. They hudson ends up one nine. That's that's good. Do you ever get bored with your applying. will i do now. Because we're not playing But now a boat. That like. I say i got bored Even if you playing the same stuff a time you still try to approach it slightly differently. All tied to give him a groove on that all says just big moe musical with a so you always let yourself get bored with those things when you went back to. Sydney walk made you decide to go back home. Main reason was that Wife and i will. I met my wife in that lay than we got married down there. But we had two boys and they both moved over to sydney for work and And will wife always said that. We taught which i did retire it. She wanted to be up near her sister. may not fat from cindy Now drives we were very connected to the boys and Grandchildren for while a now. They've they've moved away again so At once builder. Ones white Roller going by by seven of my sons is With the swing ninety than they angry of your bad was likely to be in sydney for twenty years now moved down the battle at edge. They do main reasons. Otherwise we'd still Nightline not still be a bit of work. We decided Getting can now. I'll come back here retired. Which is which is quite district. So you haven't played your wack noto ally then Mainly because a few years full lift tool to rotate a cup of michelle. And i said what is you've got to have an operation and I said hanlon will be at work. They said six months. Since i was what's plan b and is there we can get the physiology exercise which are do they. She which enabled me still played pretty reasonably well. I still do those exercises but over the over the years it just got worse out of trouble was losing control. I couldn't get as much control as i wanted. And so. that was exciting once. We got up here as well. There's not much work come here anyway. And i don't big rich and other taking out of people's jobs So so so. The kids have played sees practicing on a little a little bit because Being inducted into the south australia music hall of fame which was which was very nice to be nobody either and to go back to ed laid to for the ceremony by this happened just before covet so is being put up so many different times so i'm just the joint benefactors just so hopefully i can play one to choose if she can. Yeah well the but it'll be interesting. Get the hands guy. But i know what you'll bad coordination urban interested. I'm sure you'll be fine. Laurie we'll see anything that you'd like to hope to achieve full. You definitely do not play ever again. plane was Role not not really. Because i hadn't got the kitchen In a situation where. I can play but i would like to do is to resume doing is to just practice on by practice. Pant and developed the technique. Tonight should have developed Years ago so that that would be a big achievement foaming at Happening feeling better more was in fact. Wenceslas i've to get back into it sean. I would like to congratulate you for actually doing lays recordings The stories of blazing young talent in that light doesn't Great thing to do and Down no but it's all about will be listening to your podcasts. More of folks sean. I'm really enjoying it. The drummer's amazing as she said and they share fabulous stories. And i think it's a really lovely collection of stories of podcast. now it's Certainly groin and will eventually become a book book. That sounds great looking. And the would once. I've heard so far have been great. Yeah it was really interesting. Lots of good things sites Quite get that information out to here and the heaven record for show ended up book another thing. That's very good Happening in that. 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But i think there's a couple of young big bands the come up as well so the still playing occasionally that's quite to say they're focusing on the young talent coming through so it's great to see that yes definitely was during my research i came across the gripe e skype yes now. That was the puck rid of ebbing reason that was way back in the sixties and it was a fast me to get into tobacco bill And does it okay. So it down. It was uneasy after about nine months. So it's out and even to get sucked upgrade and that was enjoyable. That was good without rehearsing. So jiming quite bail and One chewed on the hit parade. The that that drug cup ops after that law so that you can go much further than that. And i of came back to india app that went they victory such heaven. You said it wasn't on the list that you said three to me. And i thought island who. I'm talking to laurie. Good on your good on you Before we end up chat today on going to florida twenty quick random questions or as many as we can get through in the spice of two minutes to close the interview. I ready laurie k. Your time starts now nine. The concert that you went through I think a lot of dane you frank sinatra if you could apply drums what else today. A play killer. Ninety five advance in the sixties from the sixties outcry is That would have been Will probably most itis. I came from the day. Jr is where the residents stars of the nation's i The rock show the ib see. What was the show. Cold says she had to say it again. What i came from the day where the resident stars of the nation's first taping is appropriate in the closet. Six o'clock rock six nine important that you ever land. Most important bake speech baked. You'll have to excuse my hearings already. Good pass on that nine. The first album that you purchased. I would've been Wasn't actually got album. We actually Puppy was was now. 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The U.S. Job Market and Economic Outlook

WSJ What's News

14:30 min | 5 months ago

The U.S. Job Market and Economic Outlook

"At eighty p we understand the importance of building the right team and offer the data insights to help. Just as importantly our ai. Technology helps you pay. The team accurately grow stronger with adp hr talent time and payroll from a one child policy to three child policy. The economics of china's shifting demographics plus a progress report on rebooting the american economy. It apparently takes a little bit more time to reopen a twenty trillion dollar economy than it does to shut it down and which ceo's made the most last year. It's tuesday june first. A mark seward with the wall street journal. Here's the ama of what's news top headlines and business stories moving your world today. West virginia governor. Jim justice is on the hook for seven hundred million dollars worth of loans. His businesses took from the now defunct finance firm green silk capital. According to people familiar with the arrangements justice personally guaranteed the loans on behalf of bluestone resources his sprawling network of coal companies. The bluestone companies were one of the largest borrowers from greenville which package the loans and sold them to swiss banking giant credit. Suisse credit suisse is now trying to recoup its money. Neither a spokesman for mr justice nor lawyers for bluestone responded to requests for comment in march bluestone brought a lawsuit in a new york. Federal court alleging greenfield committed fraud in its lending practices. What are the world's most recognizable. Athletes has dropped out of the french open after a standoff with the tennis tournaments organizers naomi osaka now she suffered from severe bouts of depression since two thousand eighteen and that required media conferences after matches were negatively affecting her mental health after she was fined. Fifteen thousand dollars by tournament organizers for failing to appear in a mandatory news conference sunday all four grand slam tournaments warned her of increased financial penalties and possible suspension. Osaka is the world's highest earning female athlete. Texas governor greg. abbott says. He'll consider calling a special session of the legislature to once again. Bring a bill. That would restrict voting. The bill died. Sunday when democrats walked off the house floor and denied republicans. A quorum republican supporters of the bill say would secure elections while democrats object to the bills restrictions on early voting and other elements and the journal's annual ranking of ceo pay for s and p. Five hundred companies is out. The top spot went to chad richardson. The founder of pay com software his pay package valued more than two hundred million dollars. Several high earners reflect the winners of pandemic spending including the ceo of regeneron. You can see how things stack up on. Wsj.com beijing is easing. it's restrictive policies on how many children families can have married. Couples can now have three children and the switch comes less than a month. After china's most recent census showed a fourth straight year of declining births. china has restricted. The amount of children people can have since one thousand nine hundred eighty so this shift could have significant social and economic implications wall street journal markets editor. Quinton web is here to help explain what the change means for china's economy. Quinton good to have you here. Hi there mark put i. Can you paint a picture of the scale of the problem. The chinese government saw well say china is facing big demographic challenge on this date back to the one child policy first introduced in one thousand nine hundred eighty and now effectively. What that means is that we have a kind of aging and almost on the cusp of shrinking population. And at the same time. China has very low by international standards retirement ages. So you know that'd be more more retirees and fewer and fewer working age people to look after them if you like it kind of reverse is some of the ingredients that drove each china's economic boom in recent decades when you had this big supply of young people many of whom move from the countryside cities to work in factories and that is sort of coming to a close so quinton the government now says to fix those problems. People can have more kids will say. Well that is the big question and the president around china not that encouraging if you look good nearby markets hong kong taiwan singapore japan etc. All of those places to grappling with similar kind of demographic problems and that would suggest that really the big issue air is not kind of formal restrictions on family size. It's other things instead not might be for example the cost of harassing the cost of education. The fact that education levels have risen and more educated women tend to have children later in the have slightly smaller families. So the big question is ready weather china rollout enough incentives to counteract some of those broader demographic pressures and other thing to say is in some countries you know for example australia or the united states one way in which you kind of ensure a reasonably population is that you have quite an open immigration policy. And that's not really the way. China works so that avenue is less open to the. Chinese policymakers marketer quinton web in hong kong. Thank you quinton. Thanks very much just ahead. Investors await friday's monthly jobs report after the most recent lower than predicted. Numbers will discuss after the break. Adp we work with more than eight hundred sixty thousand companies worldwide. That gives us a pretty good idea of how to help. Businesses grow stronger whether it's through data insights that help you make informed decisions about building a team that works better as a team or by keeping you ahead of thousands of changing regulations. So you can keep ahead of everything else building. That better team grow stronger with adp. Hr talent time and payroll as we begin a new workweek. Economists and investors are already focused on friday. That's when the monthly jobs report is released. It comes after disappointing results. In april when employers added a modest two hundred sixty six thousand jobs beyond how many jobs were at it or lost the report. Tell us a lot more about the health of the economy and it can help transform future economic policy. Wsj reporter paul. Curing covers the federal reserve for us. He joins me from his post in washington. Hi paul good morning. Good morning could be with mark of paul. Let's look back to april. We're taking off guard about the employment numbers for those who monitor the health of the economy. What are they looking for. What risks are they watching out for. Come the end of the week. Well the question is what risks. Aren't they looking out for her. Because we've got the potential for labor market issues. We've got the potential for inflation this week in particular policy makers economists are going to be looking at whether or not hiring rebounds. It's slowed in april really unexpectedly. You know massive unexpected slowdown in april. That that called into question the narrative that has been guiding policy for the past few months. Which is that. The economy is likely to rebound really quickly and hiring in the labor market are likely to rebound really quickly. So the question is whether april was a speed bump or evidence of a new emerging set of problems specifically with labor supply. And what we're gonna get in may is a clear sign of whether or not those supply issues are strong enough to actually restrain hiring and potentially broader economic growth. Let's take things a step further as we've heard in the past fed chair. Jerome powell has said the strength of the labor market will help dictate. What what he does. Next why is that. So the feds guidance. Right now is they wanna see substantial further progress in both the labor market and inflation before they start to reduce the pace of their bond purchases and quite simply. The reason is that they've got a mandate to target full employment and stable prices. They want to labor market hiring jobs rebound before they start to tighten policy in an ideal world the constraint on that of course is inflation which is also kind of tied to the labor market and certain ways but as a starting point what the fed really wants to see is strong job creation over the next few months before it will consider dialing back some of the stimulus that it implemented during the pandemic. The fed has also said it's watching supply issues. Can you explain that. Yeah so basically. What a number of fed officials have have pointed out in the past. Few weeks is Apparently takes a little bit more time to reopen a twenty trillion dollar economy than it does to shut it down. So you know you're seeing this really prominently. In the auto sector the micro chips that cars used nowadays or are in short supply. The factories are having a hard time keeping up. That's a really prominent example. These challenges exist in supply chains for goods but they also exists in the supply of workers. A lot of workers are reluctant to rejoin the labor force. The stage and so to the extent that hotels can't find enough workers restaurants can't find enough workers at you know the prevailing wage that existed before the pandemic it's going to constrain their ability to provide those services with this discussion. There's always the question about inflation. There's a challenge with inflation expectations. Not just inflation itself but what people think inflation will be. Why is that an issue. All these issues are related. And it's really interesting. And and even even the best economists in the world are sometimes struggling to understand how they play against each other but over the past few decades fed officials and economists have come around to the idea that expectation play a major role informing you know actual inflation. So the idea is basically if consumers and businesses start to expect and maybe accept somewhat higher prices than it gets easier to raise prices. And you get kind of self fulfilling cycle. So to the extent that those behaviors become ingrained and entrenched. That's where you could start to get some of the persistently higher inflation that the fed worries about and that the fed would be inclined to try to rein in so a really important point. And all this is we're seeing some of the highest inflation and you know depending which measure you. Look you know more than a decade right now. The fed story is that they have every reason to believe that it will pass as these supply chain issues that we talk about. Start to get resolved if the economy is able to supply the goods and services that people want that will naturally bring inflation down. Because it's when you have a shortage of the price goes up right so fed thinks that as the economy reopened and we all kind of get back to normal. The inflation that we've seen in the past couple of months will start to fade and they won't necessarily have to tighten policy really abruptly but they're watching expectations and any indication that higher prices are not simply transitory as kind of a key determinant whether they'll have to act. Paul kiernan covers the federal reserve for the wall street journal. Paul thanks again appreciate it. Yeah thanks a lot for having me and finally big beer is getting creative to compete with. Smaller craft brewers take danish beer giant carlsberg which paid to refurbish the brewery at grinberg abbey. In belgium lost thursday they this new micro brewery inside the walls which is the first time the brewing beer inside the abbey for more than two hundred years. The last one was burnt down by french. Revolutionaries that's the wall street journal's james morrison who had the tough task of investigating the story for the paper he says carlsberg's investment which cost millions of euros. Could give it the style. Many beer drinkers are looking for. This gives calls book is the kind of unique and authentic beers. That all the big bruise looking for these days. Because they've had a lot of their mock it eaten up by much smaller breweries and for the monks grimberg and abby it brings in money carlsberg pays them royalties which allows them to pay for the upkeep of the abbey which is a huge old building. I'm also to help with the pastoral. And charitable work a monk at the abbey says just how much carlsberg pays remains a commercial secret. You can read the story and see photos at wsj dot com. And that's what's news for tuesday. We're back tonight with a new show. Then stay in touch with us Wsj.com and the journal app a mark stewart with the wall street journal. Thanks for listening you.

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B.I.G. Interview | Kevin Lytle of The Coloradoan on Rams Hoops Surprise Season

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17:40 min | 9 months ago

B.I.G. Interview | Kevin Lytle of The Coloradoan on Rams Hoops Surprise Season

"This acephalous al former colorado buffaloes quarterback and you're listening to the whole show on thirteen ten ks twenty one minutes after the hour. Hey check this out on the rocks liquor if you can believe this. They're celebrating their ten year anniversary. They're going to be having giveaways all day today at the store. Food fun all day. Come in and sign up for prizes and everything. so it's a heck of a deal on their. Actually they've been with us since we started this program and we love to love to have him on board are game beer the week. Maybe maybe enjoy one of those game beers the week and watch colorado state boise state. Tonight is horse and dragon brewing in fort collins. It's the whistle blast honey brown ale get for a discount at on the rocks liquor twenty one minutes after the hour huge game tonight boise state colorado state. It is officially my game of the week. Kevin lytle from the fort collins colorado and kevin my man. This is huge. I'm looking at boise. State stretched down the road and they have a lot of hard games coming up. The rams are right there. This conference is right there for the taking it's sitting right in front of colorado state. Yeah this is Tweeted the other night. I it's lively right now. The the mountain west is getting really exciting because teams are starting to beat each other at the top. I obviously see issue has wins over san diego state and boise state utah. I should say Utah state just lots of unlv the other night the one. That's unblemished boise. State as you mentioned. They're scheduled super backload. They beat up on on all of the bottom teams. Which obviously you have to do. That's important but they. They finished the season. Their last five series are all teams. That are two through six in the conference right now so It's really exciting. I think there's going to be an awesome. Finally you know five or six weeks in the season here. Yeah i mean if you're the rams split even if you split this thing i mean even if you can't find a way in these two it's still way up in the air but i would say that if you're the rams man a split would be absolutely huge because like you said. The broncos are at nevada. They have unlv. Which i've heard you talk about you. Do you think there are much better team than the record shows. Utah state san diego state. this is a heck of a moment this this one tonight and then later on friday for the rams it is in so many ways like you say you know you to backup boise state. So they were to sweep. They'd be tied for first in conference which obviously is huge. Split totally agree. I think honestly. I think both teams wouldn't leave to sad with split And then you throw in. The fact boise state is ranked fifteenth in the net rankings. Which are the all important metric for ncaa tournament bids sort of the the do rpi. Which is you know. it's a lot better and more inclusive than the rpi and so for a chance to pick up on a quad. One win which is you know. Quad one is the most important And for boise likewise would be a quad one win for them so just so many different factors. You can touch on here. It's it's a huge theory. yeah. I'm reading a lot of those. Those same things. Random outlets talking about. Who's in who's out and a lot of them kind of have this one tonight when you're looking at colorado state in this could really be a big thing as far as the rams if if there's an at large bid for the rams and again it could win the tournament they could win the regular season but for an at large. This is a huge moment for them. Splitting with utah state splitting with san diego state. Yeah this is one of those games where you look at it. See this a marquee victory if you can even grab one of these games. Kevin talked to us about boise state number one in points per game in the conference. Eighty one points. This is just kind of a when you look at their starting roster a lot of great players but kind of a group that can do a little bit of everything. Yeah you're spot on there and that's what niko medved was talking about. When we we spoke yesterday they're just so many ways they can be doing. Some teams for instance. You go state and you know that you need to try and find a way to at least control. Namias kato will bit. We've he doesn't really have that. Derek allston is a star. He'll play in the nba but they have so many other guys. Allston has an off night. They can still succeed. And that's why they have as you suggested. Probably the biggest blowout potential of teams amount west. When they're clicking they can just put up huge points. I think their average margin of victory in mountain west. Play right now. Is something like twenty three point again. It's against the bomb teams but tells you that they are taking care of business. They they have done some amazing things they go. Not just one through five hundred. Their benches good team honestly made up mostly of transfers which is always a tough way to do it but leon rice has really done good job of of kind of combining all the forces and everyone seems to be working well together so i mean there's there's often there's tagab their shit market shaver ray j dentist. Great point guard matchup. By even i mean. We can list about ten guys for boise that that you need to watch out for. It's just so interesting though when you when you watched a couple and then you even look at the box. Scores and these games with boys was looking back at some of them this morning and for the most part. Yeah they are pretty spread out. The averages are right around the thirteen. To fifteen points per game rebounds. They're all in the top four five around four or five six per game and that's that's a way to win a lot of basketball games like you said when you're going up against utah state and keta you can kind of. Let him do his thing as long as you stop the rest. This is kind of a pick your poison and if you choose poorly and austin decides he wants to go off tonight or a couple of these other guys say they wanna make it a big game. That could be difficult so in some cases not having that mega superstar can be more difficult on film. Yeah totally i mean. Boise's happy to have five guys that are all in the ten to fourteen point range and and yeah just like you say you know at the end of the game me my so. We held allston to ten points. That's pretty good. Well five other guys had ten also when you start. Add up pretty good numbers when you have five to seven guys all in double figures. So yeah that's what makes it hard and that also makes it hard for boise to have a really bad night because When you're counting on one guy i mean we saw the other night. Kedah guy into foul trouble and they'd disrupted What utah state did whereas here. You know if allston or dennis shaver whoever have you know off shooting night or whatever. They have ways to win beside that. So so it's a a really balanced team and You look at the big picture. It's great for the mountain west at the marquee. Matchup right now is he. S you in boise state. You know they're not your traditional mountain west power so i think it speaks well to The grow eighteen quality in the mountain west. And it's exciting overall. I think that's why you're seeing Many bracket projections have several mountain west teams. Well but boise state's a three point favorite. And i listen based on the records kevin and the fact that you know boise only lost to what a top five top sixteen that makes sense. But it's only a three point spreads so i look at that and go wow nationally the wise guys all that they're looking at this rams team and no longer is this a. Oh that's the young up and coming team. They're still young. But i think the national consensus that the rams can compete tonight with boise state. Yeah i mean when you go to san diego and win and go to utah. State and win. People aren't paying attention if they don't realize that there's a team that can win. I think like you said they probably don't have or they definitely don't have the consistency of you. Know some of these. These super great teams. You know san diego state for instance but they obviously can be very dangerous and and also have kind. The guts owed To just keep going and keep going and cause problems their roster. It's it's a kind of another spread out type roster when you look at the point obviously is as stevens. He's for the most part. He's what makes this team go. But in that victory against utah state. Kevin there were so many big moments. And that would just sean. Thomas thomas coming up with that stretch of eleven points. David roddy still going to do his thing. And he's averaging over fifteen points per game. I love watching kindle. More fissile would he can be that sharpshooter. There's a lot of great guys that they can just kind of boise state. They could go off on any night too. So if you key in on ics stevens you have a lot of other problems to deal with this. Rams team yeah. I think you're right. I don't think there's the overall depth that boise has but certainly there you know this isn't a one one player. Show this stevens and david. Roddy lead things but there are other guys and niko medved had an interesting point. Normally you know normal season you play roughly thirteen or so non conference games which is right about where she is right now. Normal year they'd be just heading into conference play. And you know non conference time to figure out you know rotation for some young guys to get their feet. Wet guys like sean thomas james. Moore's would kind of be just settling into their roles whereas now it's middle conference play by think we've seen that you know you mentioned sean thomas at the huge game against Utah state james. Morrison has been playing. Well so you're seeing guys just kind of settle into roles lot more and it is. It's providing the depth that cs. You need i mean. Am this would a great shooter but hasn't started the season hsun great. He's showing signs. They're need some of that. I see if you won't be able to lean on just stevens in roddy. Having big games in order to be boise state. I think it's just been such an interesting sivas season even with the covert situation. Kevin because you and i were on this show several weeks ago before the season started talking about those issues supposed to play you and see what's going on there see issue. We're not so sure they could even meal field a team to play. Csu pueblo and if they do who knows what's going to have we don't know what to expect and then suddenly this team's winning big time games and we're talking about him being in march madness so i love the fact that you bring up this is not even we would just now be kinda gelling and getting in the thick of it here so that's only got to be a good sign that the rams have recovered from. We don't even know if they can field and appropriate team to be blow to. They're probably going dancing this year. Yeah it speaks to like you. Think the houston growth like In some ways. Yeah it's time fitness talking about how young there on the other hand. It's very true. I mean most of these guys have pretty much one and a half seasons under their belt. They've never really played postseason. Play because You know see you was going to be end up postseason last year. Obviously kovic at that down so so they also lost their off-season development time and all that so it all does come into play. And you're seeing again. It takes some time to develop and grow like that. Yeah no question. Talking to kevin lytle of the fort collins colorado and going more on the niko medved side. I know he's getting more and more national exposure. I didn't even know. If i was gonna be able to get him on the show last week with all the tweets about him all this stuff but he is. I tell you kevin. He's he's just a tremendous guy. He's he's an easy one to root for. But i i gotta admit what is this year three. And it's just astonishing to me to see how they play for him. How they continue to come back. They love this guy. he i tell you with all the negative surrounding colorado state to start the season especially in football side of things niko medved. I mean i've had. Some people are tanner schwinn. Here said some day nico ed's gonna be right up there in the talks of greats like tad boyle And i mean it's hard to argue because you look at this great start and what he's done so far. Yeah i mean he's the development the growth in the rebuild. Because you can't forget where this program was. When he took over it was to be frank a complete disaster of a program. See if you had weighed a way too. Long to fire. Larry stacy had gotten really nasty And just talk sic in that environment and he's just turned it around. I mean it all starts. I wrote about this a little bit earlier this season. When you've got the commitments from isaiah stevens and their space especially david roddy a couple of years ago. That was a huge turning point we thought it was then and now seen those guys develop even more so proves that and then they. It's just so smart. They built around Those guys and some of their other pieces they just have such a great system. And i i guess knowledge and understanding of what they're trying to do. It's not chaotic of you. Know let's just get all the best players it's no you know. Let's find people that fit both basketball wise in character wise and and it's just clicking right now I you know. There's a contract extension for met signed before the season and that's looking smarter every day. Yeah it is. I mean if you go back to joe parker. The the contract extension with coach bobo. Everything went south pretty much instantly after after the ink barely dried. This has been the complete opposite. So you know. We've talked a lot about joe. Parker this this past few years about his job. Be in jeopardy. Well this is going to be one of those big time moves all that hiring extension and all that you talked about larry stacey and we. We've talked about it a lot on the show you stay. She might might be a great basketball mind. Might be great at getting excellent players to accel but isn't niko medved painting up like a prototypical coach. You want in this day and age. Medvid might be the guy. I've seen him in practice. Kevin you've certainly seen them in practice in games. He can get after it. He's not pulling any punches. He will get after guys but he still has fun with these guys they they they treat him like a friend but a coach when it's go time he's kind of that perfect blend. Yeah i love that point brady and mexico right a little bit about that idea. 'cause yeah when you just talk to you know if you catch him or you know in normal times when ringo practice things like that and just kind of our you know shooting the breeze just a super friendly likeable nice guy. I think in some ways it puts veil over people thinking like. Oh yeah. he's a nice guy coach but you know does that work. He's in credible. Competitor guy does not like losing. He does not like things being done the wrong way and he will you punch the guy so speak not literally not saying that but you know will make sure that the message gets across with not working. I mean after the first utah state game older guys have talked about you know. They had a very uncomfortable film session the next day where they basically watched the entire game and point out. You did this wrong this yeah. This was not the effort required. That's not okay but it was done in a teaching learning way not a you know mocking You know a a type of be down a player type of thing. it was just. This is not the expectation and yeah it seems to be hitting all the right buttons with with this team. Yeah no question about a kevin while we have you man on the football side of things. Some news last week with joe lynch moving on But now well seems like the rams have their new offense coordinator. Yeah pretty interesting. One of coordinated off to dandruff hill is an sec team but live here pc. And he's only mad as a quarterbacks which is very fascinating to go from offensive coordinator. Quarterbacks coach looks like today. John gruden myra i'm pronouncing that right. He's a quarterbacks coach at wisconsin. Young guy He played at wisconsin. intel twenty ten when injuries forced him to retire. Basically he's been quarterbacks coach for three years he's regarded as a good recruiter. And get the quarterbacks which For fifth position because You signed free freshman class. Soak worked now. That'd be good to see that one. I think it's safe to assume. Stephen does not joining urban meyer. Now he's building up that staff so we've got that one answered. That was conundrum for a while. Kevin i can't say he did for sure. Talk durban mirus sums. It was even I believe before offer was was green mountain by. He decided to stay so it was a very legitimate discussions. It was a lot more than just some twitter speculation so that that was a conversation. But yeah stephen is in. He's staying at asu and We have actually another signing day. Coming up it'll be a small class but With this Landing brewed meyer as the. Oc that should finalise. Bath barring any late departures now. Very interesting stuff as always from you. Kevin appreciate it man. I'm i'm pumped for this one. Tonight cannot wait issue. Boys stay been looking forward to this one for the state game for sure but definitely excited about this one so i can't wait for a kevin. We appreciate your time as always. We'll try to catch catch up with these soon. Sounds great. thanks for having me brady. Thanks for him. All right kevin lytle fort collins colorado and thirty eight minutes after the hour. we're gonna jump gears. Switch gears talk some denver nuggets. They're going up against the my our jumping years here colefax. Yeah that's a new thing but first let's get the latest on the local sports flash.

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Fringe On Tour - Whyalla and Mount Gambier In Focus

Adelaide Fringe Podcast

14:57 min | 2 years ago

Fringe On Tour - Whyalla and Mount Gambier In Focus

"Atalay themes Christopher. Potier that defines a city. Welcome to Adelaide fringe podcast where we take you behind the curtain of the largest arts festival in the southern hemisphere to help you navigate you'll bist fringe experience each year. Our fringe caravan hits the road to bring a taste of fantastic fistful to regional South Australian destinations providing a pop-up kid of fringe flavor. In today's episode. We hear about two of the regional fringe on tour destinations while at and mount Gambia over the two thousand nineteen aced long weekend. Why Allah is set to come alive hosting a program bursting with local talent and touring artist. And we get the hot tips from festival MC's boo and make we also hear from events pergram Louise Adams about the continued growth and success of fringe bound Gambia Adelaide fringe podcast is recorded on the traditional lands of the Ghana people with big thanks to add lead. Fringe principal partner Bank. You say. Hi on Burr on mic, and we're hosting the main stage at unearth at Y'all this year over the Easter long weekend in twentieth of April people, so there's lots planned exciting catalogue of a bent and fringe continues while these as data, can you tell us a little bit about what is going to be happening, and what people can expect absolutely there's going to be loads of free entertainment, everyone. So it's not just for the grownups the whole family can come down. There's going to be the little Palais that great Louboutins old. Yeah. Yes. Oh, there's heaps of entertainment on a rotation near free. Boo. Did it here in L to Park New year's people just flock and his Greg because people feel that welcomed in that space, and it's so nice. The fringe fringe going out to people because it means that you get family starting to enjoy it from such a young age as well. So you've got the kids growing up. They remember these amazing days out when they were little that was fringe. And then when they're all they'll be the people that go. And see the shows at the fringe here in the city as well. It's good for the community as well. They get involved and to massive band, thirsty Merc coming to yla and neon Tetra as well. Superb Swami bigly English the big old stage. It's going to be great to be able to be a young kid boil Gil at there in the country to get some world-class stuff coming Roger their doorstep NBA out interact because we love chatting, we love meeting new people. You did. Right. It's going to be a great great opportunity for everyone, including food trucks as well. Entertainment food, you can go and just really kick back for the whole weekend with your friends family a love that we're taking on kids down. And you know, how important is it? Do you think that fringe includes this Raijin-oh aspect to its tour is huge? It might be that somebody that isn't gonna come into the city something that inspires them. And they go on and they're the next huge performer in the fringe in ten years time, or even if it's if it's not on that level is it's taking something beautiful enjoy joyful just out. So everyone has access to it. You don't have to be near or in the city to experience a love that about fringe and fringe is sort of a really special magical event. And it's not that that it can be extended in that y for you, though, what each of you. What is your favorite aspect of fringe the family that you make? I'm obviously, I'm not from Australia or from the guy, but I never feel like I'm a wife and family because you always you end up going into. Towns where you see your extended perform a family or they come into your town thing. That's that's my favorite and growing having our kids grow up in that atmosphere as well. Just this this creative environment where they know that they can be whoever whatever they want to be a more will encourage them. We surrounded by the people who who dream the beautiful thing about Adelaide fringe being an open arts festival as well. I've been access is that anyone can put on a show. You don't have to have all the money or all the training the experience if you wanna do it, or if you've got a group that wants to do it you can you can be a part of it. So it's very inclusive in that way. Not curated not people left out. It's something that everyone can get involved in. I think that's another lovely power going to regional places with fringe on tour is everyone feels what they can. And it's like, hey, it's not just in the city here, we want you we want you. We're part of you that we are one family. Is there any sort of standout moments things or experiences those stories from from your experience? Ince's again every year you get to see all your friends who come from all around the world and just catch up. We have an annual barbecue cricket much is. But I'll I I'll do a late night comedy. That's my mind show is called the fact cave and just you get enough funny. People creatives in a room. Great. Stuff's always going to happen. He missed the activation on the riverbank this year. I didn't all you said. It was probably my favorite thing. Oh, yeah. Yes. She are. Yes. Oh my goodness. I took my south out on a loan date and just wandered around for hours. And it was just incredible on just to have access to things like that. I mean, I just feel so lucky so how would you then recommend for people coming along too? While a fringe, how do they get the best out of the experience? If you got any tips full them. Yeah. I'll just say dive straight in going find find a place dump your car come and bring a picnic blanket. And just sit yourself up. This Habes of food stores is going to be hate stuff. He's accused performers going around is that the families this thirsty. Merc? Neil Tatra, Abby how early English all doing amazing music on the main stage. We'll be there messing around. Let me giving you tips. Go and see this our friends here the little Pele griped. Yeah. Time. The little pal is going to be terrific the bamboos he will program some great stuff families just kick back. Relax while you're close. You don't mind getting muck AC can roll around on the grass if you want to just just come and have a good time. Let's play it's gonna be great. So eats it's over the long weekend. And that really gives people the opportunity to come and experience everything that while a has to offer on really looking forward to that. Because we much more about while. And now when I first moved off to Australia and not so much. But now if it's it's becoming this incredible place for families to go to his a proper tourist destination for South, Australia and really working hard on that. And you can see it. And you've got the dolphins. You can go to as well if you haven't seen the dolphins coastline. So great history in wiler as well. So for the history buff spring, then and pulp just Paul into the car. We're going to go on we leaving on Thursday. We're gonna make a weekend it like people go up to the river and plump themselves. They are people go to your Bank races. And this is a destination and is going. To be full of great stuff. From the fringe music cabaret comedy circus gripe bands couple of idiots hosting the main stage interest you gone. We account with Superstock I've been invited to our really looking forward to it on. I'm going, right. Fantastic. Hi, I'm Louisa Dums. And I am Cogan is and head of autism programming. Full fringe, MAC Gambia. We've just finished the festival finished on Sunday. The thirty first of March, and it's been a wonderful success. So fringe met Gabby has been growing bigger and bigger every can you tell us a little bit about some of your highlights from these use fringe Louise it blows me away. How how much the community and surrounding region supporting it and oddest as well. And we had numbers close to double. As to what we had in two thousand eighteen we went from four ticketed shows in two thousand nine hundred nine to nineteen ticketed shows in two thousand nine hundred nine for me. That's definitely one of the highlights is seeing that confidence in venues many of which aunt conventional venues wanting to host a fringe event. And we're also saying that confidence in oddest both based here regionally and also visiting. And I've done sorry. Well, we've had a number of sold out shows. That's just a such an incredible development for fringe, Matt Gambia fantastic. And you know, why is it so important that fringe has the the regional tour and includes areas like mount Gambier, what does it mean to the community there from office fate. I've had a love affair with with fringe since I moved to Adelaide when I was eighteen and one of the most exciting things about same fringe guy on regional to is to say that excitement and enthusiasm and openness in audience members is as they they look around and they say to each other accomplish this is happening here or how wonderful that we were saying all these amazing artists and diverse art forms right here in our city. The first year we had five performance, for example. They were a lot of people that came out to me and said, wow, this is amazing of you know, I've never seen a fire performer in real life. I know that they sound like simple things. But I think together they they really. Combine, and you know, I want to say regional areas where it's not even something that people have to look forward to once a year. You know, I think it should just become the norm that we are exposed to various different off homes and diversity in our everyday and add lead fringes Bena amok later in and we're really proud to be following in in that footstep. I think Fermanagh does point of view for regional terrain. And why fringe on tour is so important is its new audiences. It's a new performance space. It's rather than just playing Adelaide fringe vote over in Perth, and maybe fringe, and Melbourne, etc. The adding to the performance opportunities inability to get a return on the hard work that they put into different show, which is also amazing. Yeah. So many ways that it's benefiting both community and oddest. And so how how did the local community get involved this year? I took gory from four to nine hundred shows. I'm sure there was some significant community involvement required to sort of achieve that like anything, you know, these things take time to develop we've definitely been pleasantly surprised by quickly that Spain adopted developed here in a Matt Gambia. And I think a big part of that, for example with that jump is the venues. I'm sure the story is similar across a lot of regional cities. There's not ready made venues to host a range of different types of performances. I mean, even just for a venue to host a band and have an in house pay and law chain and things like that. It's not as readily available in regional areas. So I think it really big thing that we've seen much more in two thousand nineteen is is venues sort of stepping up and finding ways to accom-. Date performances and working together with various different sound and production providers in town. And there's this real sort of come rotary and collaboration going on. You know, some of the interesting venues that we've seen developers, you know, have a daytime cafe in v historic woolen mills here, Matt Gambia, and they became the the steamy late night cabaret club threat, fringe met Gambia, and it was amazing. The had two sold out shows. The others were absolutely jam packed. You know, we had acts like the after hours cabaret club. We had yummy deluxe. Doing plate performance. We had originally based oddest put a lot of thought into developing a fringe show code a tribute to Nayna Simone, and I think it was a third of a performance and definitely a fist interaction with fringe. And that was sold out. And you know, that's an example of a venue really stepping up and on an -ticipant in to see that increase again next year. And for you was there any sort of. Hi lot is at hard to pinpoint what really stood out for you. The opening not lift of straight party. Which is amazing. You know, we've taken inspirations from Adelaide fringe. So we have a parade. We call it the pod Papa prayed, which is led by a local legend Gavin clock. And I think we see that had one hundred fifty participants in that parade and that was before anyone from the public jumped into the prayed as well. So it was huge this year. That's people from all walks of life from care homes to a community choir to the James Morrison jazz academy performers the city band dances for schools around the community and just anyone who wants to dress up and being vote. So that was a huge success. And then on the Saturday, we have main arts experience, and I was really proud of the programming that we had across the day in the cave gardens. We had three local curator's programming during the daytime. And then in the evening, we we had some amazing headline acts light yummy deluxe or squad after I was cabaret club zucchini clan. Yeah. We just had some amazing what visiting acts as a headline is. And then to see them side by side with regionally by Sada's that really held their own ole on the main stage in the cave garden. I think that's probably my biggest highlight. And so you've just wrapped up Twenty-nine teen twenty twenty is the next people want to get involved. How do they do that visit range of ways to get involved? In terms of like, the curated main stage and also roving performance capable out on our Facebook page, which is fringe met Gambia at the same time. We've really encouraging travelling artists to include Matt Gambier on the tour schedule, I guess to other presented ticketed show at one of a wonderful venues or or to potentially be part of curated main stage performances as well. So we hope to see more and more odyssey involved. You know, wonderful festival fantastic world. Thanks so much. Louise, it's been lovely talking to you. Thank you, be sure. 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The Goddess of Broadway

Sidedoor

27:30 min | 4 months ago

The Goddess of Broadway

"This is side door a podcast from the smithsonian support from pierre ex. I'm lizzy peabody is. It's new york city the early nineteen forties and famous gangster. Bugsy siegel walks into a smoke filled nightclub in midtown manhattan fake palm trees. Line the walls white linen on the tables. A band plays onstage. bugs girlfriend. Virginia hill rests a well manicured hand on his arm. She's wearing a stunning gown. Full length. white beaded shimmering in the dim light. They make the rounds of the club and of course everyone knows they are when they peek into one of the dressing rooms. A performer says. Oh my god virginia. I love that outfit. That performer was diaz castillo. And this is her great niece. Maria foley and virginia dropped right there in the dressing room gave it to her and set naked in her fur coat to watch deals performance. Now i've complimented many people's clothes in my life. But i have never had someone strip in front of me and hand me the clothes off their back. Let alone the glamorous girlfriend of one of the best known gangsters in new york usa castillo was a big deal memo stella was a force to be reckoned with a star of the newark clubs. She recorded albums. Films had run-ins with others and became the first puerto rican to perform on broadway when she appeared in the nineteen thirty nine production. Too many girls. She was just being the strong fearless extraordinarily talented woman that she was and in turn. It opened doors for her her people. A when we don by broadway doesn't exist unless there is a bill tecos taylor in the nineteen twenties and nineteen thirties. This is emily key director of education at the smithsonian latino center. She says many americans today may not recognize the name diaz castillo but they do linneman. We'd end though right and they do know hamilton of before you get to hamilton before you get to linneman wanted me back you know. You have too many girls in nineteen thirty nine. So i think it's important to know our history in order to know where we're going so this time on side door. We bring you story of the fearless. The funny the one the only diaz castillo the puerto rican pioneer of broadway can't get enough of side door. Well there's more sign up for the side door newsletter to get behind the scenes content for each episode. There's so much more to our stories than we can fit into each episode. The newsletter is worse cider producer. Justin o neil and i can share photos videos facts and favorite moments. That for whatever reason didn't make it into the podcast. You can also find links to articles and more specifics about the research being done here at the smithsonian across the country and beyond sign up at sl dot edu slash side door. That's sl dot edu slash side door. Side door is brought to you by progressive. Have you tried the name your price tool yet. It works just the way it sounds. You tell progressive how much you want to pay for car insurance and they'll show you coverage options that fit your budget. It's easy to start a quote and you'll be able to find a rate that works for you. It's just one of many ways. You can save with progressive. Get your quote today at progressive dot com and see why four out of five new auto customers recommend progressive progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates price and coverage match limited by state law Gamma puerto rico. Nineteen twenty four year old deals. Castillo's father is deathly ill. She's probably too young to understand what's happening but she does. No one thing when she dances he smiles and she saw what that did for him as he was dying usa father died just before her fifth birthday. This is her niece. Good deleon navarro. After my grandfather died Do llosa's mother was left with five children and pregnant. So the family moved from rural puerto rico to the capital city san juan to be close to family this is where diaz realized. She could make money dancing. She'd perform on the street her hat to collect pennies but her mother did not approve. You know in those days show. Business was not what it is today. It was not an honorable profession. And she didn't think that it was ladylike for her daughter to these singing and dancing in the street and people giving her money do llosa's mother would do everything. She could to discourage her daughter from dancing locker in a room. Take the money she earned. None of it worked. Do especially loved dancing at the docks for people. Getting on and off the ships. In san juan harbor out is just votes. Going this is us costello in an oral history. She recorded for the smithsonian's national museum of american history in two thousand six. Somebody's is going to america. Those boats watch. Larry need for. What's america america. That explained we arrest world someday. A one of those boats. Going to go to america in the late nineteen twenties diaz. Got her wish when her family boarded one of those boats to mainland america more specifically new york city where they had relatives instead of going to school. Do worked at a chocolate factory even though she was only eleven years old when she could she'd sneak away from her mother to audition at nearby theaters. I always had a big mouth big loud. I've always been loud. I can't help it. I know out whatever that everybody say. Good my career. My words on top of everybody realized her voice gave her an advantage. So in nineteen thirty-one she entered a contest. Sing on an album with pedro flora's the biggest puerto rican composer at the time. It was a long shot but she was determined. She was very concerned about her reputation as far as her homeland wet and she took it very seriously because she grew up with all that shane that everybody said she was a bad girl in puerto rico being a singer and dancer so when she won that contest it meant lock to her she won the also was thirteen years old when she recorded the song. You're hearing cbo name. Career was taking off. Something else was happening. Cuban dances like the roomba and the mambo were becoming the latest craze. New york city part of it has to do with immigration of cubans into the new york city area. This is smithsonian latino centers. Emily key again. We obviously think of cuban-born cuban-americans than we think of miami. But actually there was a great wave of immigrants moving to new york and new jersey looking for work and at the same time you have the creation of a new sound right coming out of the mixing of communities in new york as a teenager. Began performing in cuban nightclubs all over new york city. She was making a name for herself so she took it one step further and literally made a name for herself. She was actually wanna the oh scottsdale. This is assistant curator. Ashley may your with the smithsonian's national museum of american history she says diaz was born wanna and then she changes her name and she kind of adopts stage name. The osa goddess lavious. I feel like that's such a bold statement to and she's a very bold person. So i can totally envision her deciding for herself. Oh i'm going to become the gotta gotta is now. It's around this time that what's call it an opportunity smacks her right on. You know i'm going to let you explain this one. And i don't do it my dance. I always used to feature. He's pointing to her rear end. Jaylo meat dishes. The original. I worked the stable and i was doing like this like that at this man would like that and slapped me in my behind man. I got so much power. I i gave him right back to you. So then the manager of the joint came running out saying oh my god you have no idea who just slapped are you. And she's like. I don't care who who who did. I just let the man slapped apps. Who did i just let. That's pretty boy floyd. He's like one of the biggest gangsters in in in new york are you. I can't believe she goes. I don't care the osa slapped. Notorious bank robber pretty. Boy floyd the fbi's public enemy number one at the time a man known for gunning down cops and burning mortgage documents during the great depression and he also refused to leave or apologize so the manager fired her. But word got out that this young fiery gorgeous latina young lady. She couldn't have been more than maybe fifteen something like that when she slapped him and it created quite a reputation took her new reputation to one of the hottest cuban nightclubs in new york city. La conga that is where she met this guy who take take no not to compete the man singing famous. Cuban musician and actor desi arnez. You might know him better as his character. Ricky ricardo on. I love lucy. Being how dare you say that to me. What did i say. I don't know go. How does he was still unknown in the nineteen thirties but he used to come by la conga club with guitar looking for work in those days when they were sending people over from cuba that were interested in the entertainment field. Desi arnez was told to ask for my team so he went to lokonga to meet her and she at the time had signed a four week contract at mart. The raise five hundred club in miami that she had to honor so do llosa took desi to miami with her but the owner of the club. Martha raye didn't want to hire him. So barter says well. What does it do and i said why he plays the guitar very bad. He doesn't seek so good playcalls. they're so good. Either image gorgeous diaz got deshea job. Her star was rising and she wanted to use whatever power she had to open. Doors for fellow latino performers and soon enough. A big door opened for diaz. She was back in new york. Dancing at la conga club when she met broadway's biggest producer at the time george abbott and he loved to dance rumba and georgia would come into lokonga just to dance with her diaz abbott. Private dance lessons and then he made her an offer. How would she like to be in his newest broadway. Show too many girls. This was a big deal and llosa jumped at the opportunity but she had one demand to deal. Sir said to george abbott. I want desi arnez in this production. Abbott said no and she said well if you don't put dez yin then that easy end of our private dance lessons so if it wasn't for that desi would not have been put into many girls. So in the fall of nineteen thirty nine the names diaz and desi lit up the broadway marquee of too many girls having shattered this glass ceiling reached a new level of professional success but her personal life was a different story. The osa and desi had become sweethearts both in life and on stage in too many girls but when it was announced that a film version of too many girls would begin shooting in california year later. Do llosa said no thanks. She liked the spontaneity of the stage. And she really hated to travel but desi he went to hollywood and well he met someone else the queen when i gigi no not sally sweet lucille ball. She was also in the film too many girls. And that's where it does. He realized i love. Lucy there's a hilarious story. In the police gazette at that time which was a tabloid a of the period With deals on the cover where the story is about how she's so angry. That does he went out to hollywood and met this redhead woman. This is fred glitch. He's an anthropologist at cornell university who spent the past two decades documenting doses life the way it was fun in tabloids of the Of the time but maria says gsa was never really mad at lucy. It was just one of those complicated situations. They became friends. You know towards the end but you know she was kind of always the other woman does he always had a place in his heart for maria says decades later when desi was dying. Co came to say her final goodbye on his deathbed he said to her. Is there a chance for us yet. Dosa still come dio so finally does go to hollywood. That's after the break. Love learning new things on side door. Here's something you might not know the smithsonian relies on support from people like you to make all of the research discoveries exhibitions. You hear about possible. Smithsonian experts are addressing critical issues in the field of science history art and culture issues that affect us all. And you can be a part of it. A lot of people listened to side door. Imagine what we could learn next if everyone chipped in just a little find out how at sl that edu slash contribute. It's spring of nineteen forty one as world war two rages in europe. American audiences get their first glimpse of deals castillo on the big screen. The film they met in argentina wearing a long floral dress a neckerchiefs abo- in her hair. She approaches a dapper american oil man. He's sitting solemnly. In a town square as people around him dance joyfully diaz tugs side a reluctant young buddy abs in joins deals he towers over her as she teaches him to dance to argentina view. Don't read them indeed rhymes with if you will. He's like it's not bad fred. Glitch has this film countless times and that films. She plays a of comedic secondary romance couple. The osa was very small and buddy upson was very tall. So part of the comedy comes from their pairing. How did she feel about playing in argentinian. I don't think she had any problem with that. It was just what needed to be done. Latin performers especially in that period were used to being billed in any number of ways. That didn't necessarily have anything to do with who they actually were exotic female i think was really the dominant role category at that period. In fact he also was very seldom billed as puerto rican in nineteen forty-five diaz played a mexican performer named khun cheetah in the laurel and hardy comedy. The bullfighters cheat. Don't come on a did you how to do the other time right now. Talking business with alf was that does israel accent in the film. They wouldn't let her do. Her real accent They wanted something even bigger and broader for the film Normal at the time to ask that kind of thing. Yes and i think it's normal still Certainly seen commentary from from latin performers and from african american performers In in both stage work and especially film and television work who are encouraged to build things even bigger even even more so In order to fulfill the expectations of the directors and producers to work. I work took the also played mexican. Argentinian and cuban characters but she's probably best known for playing the vietnamese character. Bloody mary in the one thousand nine hundred broadway show south pacific by rodgers and hammerstein shoot. South pacific was like the hamilton of the day. It was a box office smash and even wanna pulitzer prize for drama. One of the interesting things about her performance as that character that i think a lot of people don't know is that she appeared in the touring productions of south pacific and those touring productions where actually usually controversial. That's because a major theme in the musical was an interracial marriage. Something was still illegal in many states. At the time there are several states that actually tried to ban the production from touring and and being performed because they felt that it was un-american and ashley points out there's a contradiction here rogers and hammerstein challenging americans to confront their own racism. Meanwhile they're asking a puerto rican actress to put on fake eyebrows and yellow face makeup to play an asian character. And so i think it's always interesting that she played kind of this figure in the touring production and i think that that's an interesting part about her story. Right does have reached the height of success for a latina performer. At the time there weren't any leading roles for an aging quote unquote latin bombshell as she was often billed. She was relegated to playing the exotic female or stereotypical latina. You definitely see that becoming more of an obstacle because she doesn't necessarily get to play more complex roles she kind of gets pigeonholed into that same stereotype and isn't able to break free and kind of become a more humanistic complex actress by the time dio so was in her fifties. She reached a crossroads. Her second marriage ended in divorce. She was worn out and she decided she was done with acting. She was never around for holidays birthdays because she was always working and after the divorce from her husband she felt she wanted a new start. Something different not what she had been doing which really took a toll on her life. So where does a performer go. Who wants to step out of the spotlight but not too far out of the spotlight. Sin city baby d llosa became a blackjack dealer. A pit boss. And then to casino executive at caesar's palace in las vegas and she did it all under a new name de casino. She didn't want people to really know who she was even though they knew she was the minute. They sat down at the table. I remember the one night that sammy davis sat down at her table and looked up and said gee osa is that you know. I'm d- casino here. I'm not the here the also new better than most that you get your fifteen minutes in the spotlight and then your time is up. A fresh face walks in and you walk out. good deleon. Maria say she knew the deal and she was happy living her final days out of the public eye but she near the end of her life. Friends and family urged her to share her story with future generations. Maria says she represents something much larger than a single person. It's one for our side. We have a queen that went from the the hills of puerto rico gathering coal at five years old for her family to bring it back so that they could make i and and she she made something in thousand and eleven at the age of ninety four dias donated an assortment of gowns and her bloody mary costume to the smithsonian could delia says. Do never considered herself a trailblazer but that changed when she arrived at the museum for ceremony in her honor she was saying this is a place where they have all those treasures presidents kings diamonds. She felt very honored to have her beautiful gowns on display. She wanted children everywhere to have hope that they could achieve greatness through hard work after all she had done it and what the smithsonian did for her what she shared with me is that look. I'll never be forgotten men a lot to her. Because in saying that it wasn't i'll never be forgotten to the world. I'll never be forgotten to mike. People imported rico. She died two years after that ceremony at the smithsonian but not before changing her name back to do saga. She re embraced title. She gave herself a lifetime ago. The goddess had returned for one final curtain call. I'm you've been listening to side door. A podcast from the smithsonian support from px to hear stories about other historical figures like diaz castillo took out our latina's talk latina's series online in american history that si dot edu and to see a picture of joseph in that dress. Virginia hill gave her off her back. Check out our newsletter. You can subscribe at sl dot edu slash side door special. Thanks this episode to random woman at the smithsonian latino center thanks also to gazillion navarro. Maria fully ashley. May your emily key and fred glitch. Shadow to our team at the smithsonian's national museum of american history philosophy helbig and laura our podcast team is james morrison stephanie delay on sick and cannon caitlyn shaffer tammy o.'neil just sonic larry koch and sharon bryant episode. Artwork is by dave leonard. Extra support comes from jason and genevieve at pr. Our show is mixed by tarak. Food song and episode music are by brake master cylinder. If you want to sponsor our show please email sponsorship at pierre. X dot org. I'm your host lizzy peabody. Thanks for listening. And she always told me it might sound kinda crude but she said maria to make it in show business. You only need to remember one thing. And here i am thinking. Oh this going to be so profound. She said remember that everybody wipes their ass. And i said wow okay. And she said yeah. It'll keep your feet on the ground.

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The Battle of Blair Mountain

Sidedoor

30:56 min | 3 months ago

The Battle of Blair Mountain

"This is side door a podcast from the smithsonian with support from pr ex. I'm lizzy peabody. Cecchini would tell you. He comes from a long line of coal mining rednecks and he's heard all the stereotypes from west virginia travel outside the state. As i often do people still say things like oh you have all your teeth or you have shoes Do you date your cousin. Chuck keeney is a west virginia historian but he says redneck. History is the history of labor unions everywhere. That's because it traces back to the red bandannas worn by workers who risk their lives for better working conditions always say that the red bandanna is a scarlet thread throughout west. virginia history. Got eighteen seventy seven. Actually in the railroad strike the first nationwide strike in american history which started in west virginia. You had railroad workers that begin wearing red bandannas around their necks and so they were called rednecks. Oh wow yeah. It's come to mean something totally different now. That's exactly right. It means something totally different than reason that it means something totally different now because the miners didn't control the narrative the coal industry control the narrative. Kenney says there's always been a power struggle between union workers and the state's largest industry coal mining when coal miners put on red bandannas to protest. Low pay got angry that their working conditions were unsafe and yelled at bosses who ignored their demands. Coal company said it was just the uncivilized nature of the drunken hill folk. That made up their workforce and therefore the term redneck becomes to be associated with someone that is backward uncivilized etcetera etcetera. So you create the stereotype in order to say. These people are being violent because this is a part of their nature. It's not because of the industrial system that is keeping them in chains and blair mountain is a dagger in the heart of that stereotypical character of my home. Blair mountain is the site of america's largest labor uprising. Ever it took place in west. Virginia one hundred years ago this august but for a long time the story really buried deep beneath the mountains of time. So this time on side door. We're mining nugget of history. When black white and recent immigrant coal miners all rednecks banded together to demand better working conditions and a living wage and were met with machine guns. This is the battle of blair mountain. Can't get enough of side door. Well there's more sign up for the side door newsletter to get behind the scenes content for each episode. There's so much more to our stories than we can fit into each episode. The newsletter is worse cider producer. Just neil and i can share photos videos facts and favorite moments that for whatever reason. Make it into the podcast. You can also find links to articles and more specifics about the research being done here at the smithsonian across the country and beyond sign up at sl dot edu slash side door. That's sl dot edu slash side door. Side door is brought to you by progressive. Are you thinking more about how to tighten up your budget. These days drivers who save by switching to progressive. Save over seven hundred dollars on average and customers can qualify for an average of six discounts. When they sign up a little off your rate each month goes a long way. Get a quote today. At progressive dot com progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates national annual average insurance savings by new customer survey in two thousand twenty. Potential savings will vary discounts vary and are not available in all states and situations. The battle of blair mountain is about power. The kind of keeps your light bulb on in your kitchen. And the kind that exists between a worker and a boss and in nineteen twenty. The men who owned coal companies had all the power. These companies are able to wield greater in greater olitical and economic force on notable levels on county levels on state levels and on federal loves. This is smithsonian curator. Tony perry from the national museum of american history in the early twentieth century. America was industrializing. Fast there are a lot. Fewer people plowing the fields and a lot more melting steel laying train tracks and canning food. You have industrialization really ramping up in america and where industrialization in many ways is being fueled by coal literally and figuratively steel roads food production. All that stopped. If cole wasn't being pulled out of the mountains in pennsylvania and west virginia so coal companies needed people to swing pickaxes and load train cars. Lots of people. Nearly two percent of the american population worked in coal mines at the time. That's nearly seven million americans. Today more than the entire population of most states west virginia coal companies got real good at recruiting workers from across america dangling the promise of good pay and a middle class lifestyle they specifically targeted black americans who were migrating away from oppressive laws and farming systems dominating. The south compared to being a sharecropper or a small farmer in virginia a black miners. Earning potential was actually quite high in west. Virginia this is catherine more. She's a writer and founding member of the west virginia. Mine wars museum. They were pretty much assured of getting a job that could make the same wages as whites which was untrue in nearly every other occupation in the united states at that time the coal companies also promised workers a little place to call home company housing which was a pretty sweet deal for european immigrants who just land in the us with no place to go. This is chuck keeney again. Literally they were at had recruiters at ellis island. The sydney wanna job we can give you a job and we can give you a house and and of course immigrants. That will wow a job as early as the land of opportunity. This is great and they stick them on a train and then they found themselves in logan county west virginia coal mining was a pretty decent paying job but it was also extremely dangerous. You were thousands of feet underground in dark cramped tunnel deadly gases could seep through the rocks suffocating. You or they could explode and water could rip through the mind at any second or runaway cart loaded with coal could crush you or rip your arm off or the ceiling my collapse so is incredibly dangerous work. Peter leopold is a curator emeritus at the smithsonian's national museum of american history. We actually have a prosthesis artificial Leg that was made by a minor and used after that minor lost a leg in an accident during world war one and american soldier had a higher likelihood of survival then a west virginia coal miner. That is nuts. Minors put up with the risk to keep a roof over their families heads. But in one thousand nine hundred twenty. They started to see their paychecks getting a little bit leaner. There's a recession going on. It's tough times. And even more importantly the miners see that they're sliding down. They see a time that things might be worse for their children not better for their their children and that if they don't say it outright they certainly not feel americans across the country were struggling to pay bills and it was getting harder by the day. A lot of people blamed immigrants or other minority groups for their struggles. So you have a lot of racial hostility going on a lot of xenophobia. Going on enormous labor unrest and you had an enormous wealth gap between the rich and the poor in fact. Twenty twenty one. We're looking at the largest wealth gap between the rich and force since nineteen twenty one. It's not altogether a completely different world than what we see today. So we don't have to work that hard to imagine what life was like you don't have to with the economy slowing down. There was also less demand for coal so coal companies were constantly one upping each other to stay competitive. One company would pay workers less to cut costs then. They all paid less then. A company would cut costs in another place like safety inspections and then they would all cut safety inspections and so on and so forth in a race to the bottom. This becomes one of the major sticking points that accounts for a lot of attention and the emerging conflicts because the effort to keep labor costs down. You also have in these company. Towns poor housing poor healthcare facilities poor sanitation access to water the call. These company towns is being a little generous with the word town minds were usually tucked away deep in the mountains and besides the mind. There really wasn't much else. they're not roads. The only way in or out was on the train so the coal company provided housing schools hospital of sorts. Maybe a store because there weren't any so as peter leopold says a coal company didn't just control every aspect of a miner's life it controlled their families to the mine operators providing all of those things in order to attract the miners so they can have a good quality of life the downside of course is if the might operate providing everything then they can take everything away. If you're fired you lose your job but also your home. basically everything. The miners really only had one tool to fight back and that was their numbers. There were tens of thousands of them and they could literally bring the entire country to a screeching halt. They banded together and stopped working otherwise known as a labor union strike. The united mine workers of america was close to having this amount of power. It was the largest union of coal miners in the country and it was a real thorn in the sides of the coal companies by nineteen twenty. It had unionized nearly every single coal mine in the country except a handful of mines in southern west virginia. Okay but who cares right. It's just a few minds. Well those few mines produced just enough coal to keep the country going. If the union called a strike if the uaw called a nationwide strike and southern west virginia miners in these four or five counties stayed at work they could break the strike unionizing. These minds was literally a life or death mission for the united mine workers of america if they could unionize these last few mines they would have leveraged negotiate for safer working conditions and better pay but the coal companies knew this would cut into their profits. Maybe even bankrupt them so they had kind of a zero tolerance policy for unions with the mind guards. They have basically this private police state. Oh yeah the mine guards. This coal companies controlled everything in these coal mining towns with their own private police force and the so-called mind guard saw it as their duty. To keep union organizers out of southern west. Virginia you went into west virginia and took a train. If you've got off on a co camp there's going to be mined guards armed waiting for you and they're gonna no wonder why you're there here. You are how long you're staying. And if the and satisfactory they're going to put of a rifle in your stomach and three back on train besides brute force. Coal companies exploited racial divisions as part of their arsenal against the union. It's one of the reasons they were so eager to hire black immigrant workers they thought different ethnic groups could never get along however it didn't work it backfired backfires yes. The union of was able to successfully organiz african americans. They were able to successfully organized the immigrants and get the native whites on board and so they all kind of banded together when the coal companies saw mine workers banding together in spite of race. They got even tougher. They fired anyone. Even suspected of joining a union and the mind guard evicted the workers family while he was still underground in the mine. Literally literally stories are told of them actually going in on one woman who's cooking at the stove and literally pulled her out and threw her and her Party was cooking in into the yard. This is jean batllo a west virginia historian who grew up in the state's southern coalfields. She says that in may of nineteen twenty a ruthless band of mine guards through some mining families out of their homes and into the streets and when news of the evictions got to the local police. Chief sid hatfield it was the final straw and fig you just between you me real scoundrel if he had a really really good solid point tour and it was his of justice. You can do to these people. So sid hatfield some miners and the mayor rushed to confront the men in his group. Says they were armed to the teeth with machineguns came in and car obviously business so fed and his deputies mantle. Mon street now story is of course that he just pulled out his gun and shot one man in a barrel and hidden their entire out shot for truthful the manrique who by the end of the day seven mine guards lay dead in the street to minors and the mayor were also killed. Sid hatfield was made a hero of the union. Mind worker. 'cause he had stood up to the oppressive mind guard system but hatfield had begun a battle. The coal companies were determined to finish the two opposing forces would need a over a year later on blair mountain love learning new things on side door. Here's something you might not know the smithsonian and relies on support from people like you to make all of the research discoveries exhibitions you hear about possible. Smithsonian are addressing critical issues in the field of science history art and culture issues that affect us all. And you can be a part of it. A lot of people listen to side door. Imagine what we could learn next if everyone chipped in just a little find out how at sl that edu slash contribute after sids shootout with the mind guard. Chaos broke out across the coalfield of southern west. Virginia miners went on strike and coal companies responded with mass evictions. Thousands of mining families were forced from their homes into tents the form these huge colonies and his summer turned into winter and rain turned to snow. Conditions got worse and worse. This is chuck keeney again. Thousands of them are living chance in mingo county throughout nineteen twenty and nineteen twenty. want living in tents. Kids are getting sick they're malnourished so you have people living in these really desperate conditions. Striking coal miners clashed with mine guards. In deadly guerrilla warfare across the states hills and hollers. The governor created a new branch of law enforcement just to squash the violence. West virginia created its state police force specifically to put down this strike. That's why we have state police in west virginia. Even though the gun fighting took place mostly among men women played a part as well. They'd tear up train tracks or convinced. The men hired to replace the striking miners to turn around and leave town. They would confront these train cars strikebreakers and use all their all their powers of persuasion. They would shame the strikebreakers in some cases And they would sometimes come to blows. I mean there are multiple stories about women who would would get into fistfights with with these strikebreakers. Catherine moore says it was also common for women to smuggle guns to the miners. This woman named willy fish this pregnant at the time and she had these big baggy maternity clothes which were perfect for hiding guns ammunition and so she would load up her skirts and her pockets with Bullets and guns and she would walk through the woods and you know somebody would be hiding bush and she'd give the signal they'd come out she'd give them a gun she'd move on and in this way she was able to. You know out of the site of the mind guards who are monitoring their their activities this whole time almost a year after the strike began mining families were reaching breaking point. So chuck keys. Great grandfather frank keaney hatched a plan. He said if they couldn't unionize the minds in southern west virginia. They should just shut him down. He was all fire and dynamite. He asked for and shared. No quarter frank. Keaney was a native west virginian. Who'd started working in the minds when he was just ten and on may twelfth. He set his plan to shut the mine down in motion. The miners blew up a power. Plant cut telephone lines and shot mind guards west. Virginia's governor responded by declaring martial law civil liberties were suspended and a sort of military rule swept over. The area says state police were brought in. They attacked the tent colonies on june. The twelfth slashed all the tents for gasoline into their water supplies and and they confiscated all the food and then they began they. They rounded up all the miners. They could find and put them in prison without habeas corpus of course because it's martial law while the men were in jail state police began intercepting food shipments to their families in the tent colonies. Essentially starving them out and while all this was going on. A trial kicked off the police. Chief who stood up for the mineworkers. Sid hatfield on august. First nineteen twenty. One as sid climbed the steps to the courthouse. Three men shouted from the crowd and they hollered as worse your guns and he says i left it back at the hotel because i didn't want any trouble here. And he throws his jacket back to show didn't have screw on and then they started shooting mine. Guard agents murdered. Sid hatfield and his deputy on the courthouse steps. Gene batllo says it was revenge for the shootout earlier really. i'm called relation. The mind guard had sent the miners a message. They control the coalfields. And this is what happened if you challenge them. When news of the assassination reached the miners. They grabbed their guns a week later. Five thousand miners surrounded the west virginia state capitol in charleston and they set out a a list of proposals or demands to the governor of west virginia at the time. Basically saying this is what we need in order to maintain peace here and it. It was really a list of the same things they had been asking for for decades. The governor rejected every single one of the demands and said basically i cannot force the coal companies to accept the union. And that's great. Grandfather walks out to the crowd of miners and says the only way you can get your rights is with a high powered rifle. Even then told the miners to go home and await the call to march. The call came a couple of weeks later on august twentieth. Hundreds of miners gathered in west virginia. Within a day or so the number had grown to thousands. The plan was to march to the southern coalfields and free. The miners being held in jail. Bring food to their families. Being starved and ten colonies and once and for all rid southern west virginia of the brutal mine guards system. More than five thousand miners began the eighty mile march south picking hundreds by the day red bandannas tied around all their necks. An anonymous minor was quoted calling the group a darn solid mass of different colors and tribes blended together woven bound interlocked tongue and groove and glued together in one body. It was an extraordinarily diverse group. That was marching. What was more terrifying for powers-that-be in one thousand nine hundred twenty one than the see a lot of immigrants and black people marching through with guns. You wanna talk about something that challenged the power structure not just the economic power structure but the racial power structure within the united states. At that time they could not allow this movement to be successful. This was the height of jim. Crow era black and white people weren't even allowed to drink from the same water fountain in many states and here comes this diverse group of red bandanna wearing rednecks all marching together. They desegregated all the places where they went. They would stop at restaurants and they would force the restaurant owners to serve everybody together. The blacks and the whites and the immigrants in one thousand nine hundred eighty one. We're talking about forty years before the civil rights act. There was only one road that would lead the miners to their destination. And it went directly over blair mountain. This is where local sheriff on the side of the coal companies was lying in wait with a private army. Three thousand men and so they stood up. These defensive entrenchments all along these ridge lines in order to prevent the miners army marching through to mingo. They're up on top of this very steep steep slopes heavily wooded areas. You know with entrenchments and machine guns. It was about fifteen thousand miners against an army of three thousand. The miners had the numbers. But the mind guard had machine guns and they place them along the highest points of blair mountain forcing minors to charge them or retreat. And now i've been upset at where one of these defensive entrenchments were. They had these foxholes built. You know they had these machine gun emplacements and you look down the steep ridge lines and it's so mind boggling to think how difficult if you were at the bottom of this hill and your charging up this y'all in against machineguns. How angry would have to be an determined. You would have to be in order to do that. Thousands of miners fanned out into the woods. They scaled the rocky mountain side as bullets rained down on them. They attacked retreated charged again but they never let up. Were determined to reach the starving coal families stranded on the other side of blair mountain renault in some places that the body was closed borders. Other times guns kept squadrons of minors pin down. When that the miners nearly made a breakthrough for the creek gap when a machine gun malfunctioned. They were able to make garage. But then the co companies were able to regroup and fight them back. On the fifth day of battle september fourth. Federal troops finally arrived to stop. The violence miners laid down their weapons. Saying they're beef was with the coal companies not the us government in the months to follow. Nearly a thousand miners were indicted for murder conspiracy and treason. If you think about the charge of treason you know. That's a pretty A pretty shameful kind of charge. And so i think there was a par. Partly there was a sense of like the miners who were involved have been anti-american and so people were shamed for for for participating in these conflicts. That's why we don't know much about the actual events of the battle today. Minors were afraid to tell their side of the story. Out of shame or fear of being jailed and so the story of what truly happened began to fade away or be intentionally forgotten west. Virginia studies text books written from a pro industrialist perspective. And and that's just that's just a fact if you look at the biographies of the men who were writing. The text books From the twenty s onwards You they direct ties to the industry and so they painted a very pro industry perspective and in the in the histories that they wrote more than a half century later. The story of the battle of blair mountain finally began to emerge. Nobody knows exactly how many people died in the fighting. But it's believed as many as one hundred miners and thirty nine guard were killed. It was a major setback for the american labor movement and the united mine workers but they carried forward a set of ideals that have since become woven into the american fabric. Those guys that stormed blair mountain they were fighting for the things that we enjoy like a minimum wage. The abolition of child labour weekends paid vacation Pensions health care all of these other things. That we hope for granted. Smithsonian's tony perry says even though the battle happened two hundred years ago it's lessons are just as relevant today because we're living in a moment now where language around uprisings rebel insurrection protests. What have you right where this language is being deployed in weaponized in in different ways. Right one of the things that i take away from blair mountain is is really a question and that question is what determines what allows us to assess whether an uprising a revolt is just or not. You've been listening to side door. A podcast from the smithsonian with support from pierre to learn more about the battle of blair mountain and see some of the mining gear we have in the smithsonian collections including a miner's prosthetic legs together newsletter. You can subscribe at sl that edu slash side door. You can also read cecchini's book. The road blair mountain saving mine wars battlefield from king cole or visit the mine wars museum in west virginia. Thanks to tony. Perry catherine more chuck keeney gene batllo peter leopold and ve alaska helberg. This is our final full episode for the season. But don't despair. We've got a new season coming out this fall and you may see a little bonus feature in your feet just before the olympics to keep an eye out for that in the meantime. Don't forget to tell us. You love us in apple podcasts. Our podcast team is james. Morrison stephanie land. Seek and cannon caitlyn schieffer tammy o.'neil larry koch and sharon bryant episode. Artwork is by dave leonard. Extra support comes from jason and jv that pr x. Our show is mixed by talk out. Our theme song episode. Music are bae brake master cylinder if you want to sponsor our show please email sponsorship at pri dot org. I'm your host was ep body. Thanks for listening heinous a picture here. the us in nineteen twenty. I think nine hundred twenty s. And i think the roaring twenties we found a lot of flappers in mingo county and logan county in nineteen honey. Don't think scott fitzgerald. Hemingway were roaming around and charleston at this fair fair point.

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The Artist Critics Love to Hate

Sidedoor

33:35 min | 5 months ago

The Artist Critics Love to Hate

"This is side door a podcast from the smithsonian support for npr x and was. This painting is enormous. This is even bigger than i imagined it was. Can you stand next to it for real. Yeah i'm just inside the entrance to the smithsonian's national museum of american history with curator. Eric jentzsch eric's going erica's six to it. Is like twice as tall as your. The museum isn't open yet. So this space which ordinarily would be echoing with visitors. Voices is quiet but towering over. Eric is a painting that's loud. It's like this big collage of like color and sound. Which is you know. I think what you have good way of describing jazz right. Painting is called big band it shows eighteen. American jazz legends playing together in a cacophony of color. You kind of have this vibrancy around billie holiday. This orange and yellow elvis gerald kind of goes into these paints and florals through charlie. Parker miles davis. You have these blues you know and then up near trueba. It's like more energetic with purple. Feels like swath color. But i think even though it's a visual medium you kind of get a sense of jazz and that is very fluid improvisational. Lots of colors shoes emotions characters voices in real life. These musicians never shared the same stage. Their different musical styles would have made collaboration tough. But here they are mike. A fantasy sports team of jazz players brought to life in the classic style of our leroy neiman. It's very much We ran eamon. Who is probably one of the first artists that i was ever really aware of as a kid. It's very distinct. Style is bright colors sort of celebrities. In this case jazz musicians you may not recognize neiman's name but you almost certainly know his style. It's an energetic. Mix of hyper real color. And hasty looking lines. The give it a sense of action. Its distinctive but surprisingly hard to define. Expressionism is impressionism is just like he's at neiman. Ism is a very. That's a good way to say it neiman's art work paper. The one thousand nine hundred fifty s through the ninety. It was everywhere especially places. You wouldn't expect to find art. Sports illustrated magazine chess tournaments the race tracks political conventions the olympic games and playboy magazine he painted entertainers athletes and celebrities and became friends with many of them. He made millions of dollars from his art and became a celebrity himself but not everyone loved neiman in two thousand twelve when he died the new york times published a review of his work and in it the critic called him a hack. The article reads mr neiman. Who died this week at ninety. One was not an artist. Who anyone in what i will here called a serious art world ever cared about. So this time on side door we take a look at the vibrant life and legacy of leroy neiman. The artist critics loved to hate what the artist so celebrated in popular culture. So scorned by the so-called serious art world and who gets to decide what art is good anyway. All that coming up after the break Can't get enough of side door. Well there's more sign up for the side door newsletter to get behind the scenes content for each episode. There's so much more to our stories than we can fit into each episode. The newsletter is worse cider producer. Justin o neil and i can share photos videos facts and favorite moments. That for whatever reason didn't make it into the podcast. You can also find links to articles and more specifics about the research being done here at the smithsonian across the country and beyond sign up at sl dot edu slash said door. That's sl dot edu slash side door. Side door is brought to you by progressive. Have you tried the name your price tool yet. It works just the way. It sounds utah progressive. How much you wanna pay for car insurance and they'll show you coverage options that fit your budget. It's easy to start a quote and you'll be able to find a rate that works for you. It's just one of many ways. You can save with progressive. Get your quote today at progressive dot com and see why four out of five new auto customers progressive progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates price and coverage match limited by state law. We weren't even. I got attention for his art in the. Us army while stationed in europe during world war. Two he Got sent off to camouflage on the roofs of the tents because they didn't want them to be bombed right. This is heather long. Leroy neiman's niece at instead of painting. Camouflage he painted a beautiful nude on top. I'm not sure that they would have avoided the volume that way. That sounds about as attention getting as you can get. Yeah we were even withdrawing from the time. He could hold a pencil as a kid growing up poor in the depression. He would draw temporary tattoos on his classmates arms and even earned some change drawing ads for the local grocer. He was drafted into the army as a cook but he found to paint a cheesecake nudes. Romping around jumping through donuts. This is neiman in an interview with the jazz. Oral history program at the smithsonian's national museum of american history back in two thousand. Six neiman was eighty five at the time. I made myself conspicuous special treatment. Towards so i i do everything. I never painted a mural but begin painter draw you can do anything. Leeward painted posters and backdrops for red cross productions in the army. He got his first inklings that he might be able to make a living as an i and when he got back to the united states he saw how he starts at. Stripes publishes stories. That for every day. You're in the army of free education. gi bill. And i knew the day the moment i read that piece her my life was going to be. I applied to bunch of our schools on the gi bill. Niemann went to the prestigious school of the art institute of chicago. And after graduating he joined the faculty and taught figure drawing fashion illustration renown galleries started buying his work like the minneapolis art institute and the corcoran gallery in dc. He was well on his way to becoming a respected fine artist and then he found playboy yes or playboy might have found him. I'm not sure but they needed some little drawing. You have to raise asking for some little drawing. I guess on the playboy joke page in the early nineteen fifties. Playboy magazine was hugh. Hefner's brand new idea. In each issue just behind the centerfold was a party jokes. Page hefner asked neiman to add an illustration and he did and that became the febblue for which he became so famous. The feminine was a female gremlin. Though to be honest she's not very kremlin more like a teacup sized cocktail waitress sketched in blacking. She scampered around the jokes page climbing into high ball. Glasses and making sexy mischief. The firmly is a saucy girl in black tights and not much else. She was a hit so popular that the framed prints at playboy clubs had to be bolted to the walls because they disappear proving says leroy. That larceny is the sincerest form of flattery. Neiman became playboy magazine's artist in residence. And this is a little hard to get from our perspective today but in its early days playboy wasn't just selling naughty pictures. It was selling a young male fantasy of the good life and to that end traveled all across the world writing and illustrating a feature called man at his leisure. his jet. setters guide to the world's leroy win around the world drawing and writing about these little episodes in rome in paris. I mean he was living this kind of high life. This is carol becker. She's dean of the columbia university school of the arts and also a friendly neiman's she says neiman went to the bullfights in spain film festivals on the rivera. He was having these adventures that everyone wished they could be having. And he was doing these little images of them and drying of them and that was all being reproduced in playboy and playboy was getting more and more readers every month. They went from selling a million magazines per issue in nineteen sixty two. Nearly six million by the mid seventies so leeway was in the middle of all of this and he was making all these images and he was becoming famous as a result of it won't even was in chicago working for playboy. He co out in search of live music jazz. Payback building was cross yelling from the shape and nightclub by walker officer in the afternoon. Sometimes somebody rehearse hagar check out what's going on over. There would sketch the jazz musicians. Louis was there at that time. Louis armstrong good company. He fun he would talk to you. I liked him very much. Sought out jazz for the action of it. The closeness and the physicality of the players it's also intimate any The people love to be close to these guys. The music was on bitter for far away. But they wanna be close. Do i do 'cause. I draw but There's something about the loudness of the flair that they have drawing jazz. Players was different from drawing. Other musicians can do. a string. Grew classical not identify the people when you get to jazz you gotta draw. The individuals people want to see an image of somebody. They recognize neiman painted. The faces people would recognize. He has stories about everyone from ella fitzgerald. She was a bird ten. Miles davis miles is always a problem because he always wanted to have your relationship cure woman to do killington and he was so classy guy he was the same things that drew neiman. Jazz clubs also took him to sports stadiums. The crowds the motion the big personalities. He take a sketch pad to boxing. Matches the racetrax baseball games neiman wrote in his memoir on most immediately i became immersed in the spectacle of big time sports and the hysteria and adrenaline of the spectators. He would sit at the nfl games and he would draw and He was like a people's artist. You know In an people recognized him in he dressed in this very flamboyant way always cave with stash. Oh yeah neiman had a look. He wore brightly colored linen shirts and his niece. Heather says matching colorful socks black socks and of course his handlebar moustache and under that mustache along cigar he always had his cigar with him. He generally stood out from the crowd and the strangeness of a guy sketching live on location at a sports stadium got him noticed by the local. Tv stations broadcasting the games. They'd pan in on his sketch pat while he'd flourishes pencil and with a few lines bring the action to life on paper leroy neiman says adversity brings out the best in him and after all he does work in watercolors and this tv clip neimanis catching a chiefs. Game in the pouring rain would be much more comfortable a telephoto lens and be up in upper. It's warming but here's where you see. The people. the way they are name has captured many kansas city star's along the way he's worked in bad weather before yourself. You're here we're all here. We're all crazy. Is the sports media empire grew through the seventies and eighties. Neiman rode that wave reaching massive audiences. Drawing on live tv. Long before. Bob ross set up his easel. His ear to ear mustache became a fixture on the sidelines of the super bowl and the world series wimbledon the kentucky derby he was the official artist of the olympic games. Five times and the new york jets made him their artist in residence once when the jets were playing really poorly. The crowd began to chant. Leroy in put leroy in. He was becoming as much a celebrity as the people on his canvas here. He is on tv with merv griffin in one thousand nine hundred a lot of love. We're all very proud of you. Leroy because i love what i do and i love the people that i do most of all you love action. Don't you. I love action. I love the people who do it. Well neiman painted and sketched over one hundred portraits of muhammad. Ali became his very close friend. One portrait shows ali mid punch his eyeballs and teeth startling flashes of white against splashes of red blue and yellow is there and aesthetic connection between sports or decidedly. Sports graceful beautiful. And i think any work a lot worth it substance where it's worth as being being done is to be strong. Strength is a part of beauty and string big part of sports. He was drawn to these incredible athletes and he was interested in drawing the body and we presenting the body. He was a wasn't ironic at all. I cared about it. He was and that's leaving reverential he was reverential. That's a good word. And i think that's why people want to own those prints and why regular people who may not have any other art near their house so even think about art will byerly winning grits and want to live with them because they are hopeful carol becker of the columbia university school of the arts says neiman was a populist artist when i sit populace. I mean appealing to a very large ways. He wasn't doing things that people would have a hard time understanding when someone told the story of someone leaping out of a manhole covers. Leroy somebody working on the sewer system new haven. But i don't think that that probably worked in his favor in terms of the art world That probably wanted him to be more leap and he was by the end of his career. Even was earning ten million dollars a year on his art. He'd been all over the world on every celebrity. You can think of but for the man who seemed to be able to go anywhere. Open any door. The door to the so-called serious art world remained shut tight for the most part art. Critics ignored him and if prompted to comment on his work rope things. Like what howard. Johnson's the taste. Buds leroy neiman is to the is neiman makes art for people who don't like art. His technique has been variously described as gaudy cheesy vulgar walkie and holiday inn expressionist. I asked his niece heather. What neiman made it this. He never said anything about that. He must have believed that. You know eventually people are going to recognize my work that respect from the fine art world never really came but why not after the break. We'll hear from the critics. Don't go away. Love learning new things on side door. Here's something you might not know. The smithsonian relies on support from people like you to make all of the research discoveries and exhibitions you hear about possible smithsonian are addressing critical issues in the field of science history art and culture issues that affect us all. And you can be a part of it. A lot of people listen to side door. Imagine what we could learn next if everyone chipped in just a little. Find out how at sl that edu slash contribute. We're back and we're talking. About the life and work of celebrity artists be roy neiman neiman was by all measures astoundingly successful artists. Well all measures but one. He was the artist that critics loved to hate when neiman died in two thousand twelve art critic. Ken johnson doubled down in the new york times. Writing is the serious art world wrong to exclude and disdain mr neiman and his art. I don't think so so. I called him up. I read your piece. And and i just kept thinking this is so mean. What made you write it at that moment. you know. he wasn't even buried. Oh boy you're not the first person to say to me a red room you that's kind of me and i don't know i think i'd my obligation to my audience. To be honest about right feeling can has worked as an art critic for most of his career. And he says it's his job as a critic to be frank about his opinion if everybody's sort of hides their opinions behind you from this then we don't know what we're talking about culture starts to become push you gotta call him like. I asked him to read a little more of the peace allowed. Mr even was the archetypal hack which is ever present cigar. An enormous moustache. He was a cliche of the bones yvonne in a bad artist in everywhere. But but it's a good question. Well was what was i thinking. His body was buried cold. I'm writing this stuff. But i think in some ways i when i'm writing something like that. I know people are going to go. What i can't believe he said that. And so there's a certain kind of fun that comes out in criticism when you're taking on something that you really think deserves it but i wanted to know what about neiman's work this criticism. Ken says take the big band painting. For example. this music mean to him. What you get are all these little fragments to look like people playing on color television or something. It's too sweet. It's this monotonously. Televisual of life in the world. Are you saying so. You're saying he didn't have a point of view or he didn't have an any point of view and it was very banal. it was just a banal. that's our said to to present in other words in other words. what what i think. You want from an artist. If his purview is society in outer to have some kind of critical element. You know just wanted a little more complicated. So do you think that. Neiman might have achieved more critical acclaim more critical himself. Yes so what is the role of the artist than in your mind to see the world wards and all and he didn't enough warts any you know it's it. Sounds like the very thing that made him so popular was what disqualified him from critical acclaim. He wasn't challenging anything. That's really a great observation. Naming does knocked challenge. Jerry saltz is the senior art critic for new york magazine. So he's a big deal to me. Leave roy neiman. Was this weird. Sort of hippie. Kirby street danby. Who always have the salvator dali moustache more colorful clothes and smoke wong cigars and hung out with half and playboy bunnies and drew. Sammy davis junior. And liza and rockies investors two well-known kentucky derby horses and more playboy bunnies and just on. What the hell is this guy now. His style is kind of a mishmash between abstract expressionism. Color field painting. Really bad school of paris crap. Gary says he never thought much about neiman until one day in two thousand nine. It was springtime and jerry was giving the commencement address to the columbia school of fine arts graduates on the stage about to give my address and there was leading wind neiman and i got completely pointing headed lead est art critic creature thinking i do not want to be seen with leroy neiman. My god. i'm this important art critic. What's he doing here. The ceremony began and jerry learned what neiman was doing there. He was receiving an honorary professorship of the arts. See there's this whole part of neiman's life that unlike most things he didn't flaunt and it has to do with how he spent his money. He never had other fancy houses. he didn't have boats. he didn't have fancy cars. He didn't have those things that you could do with all that money. He used his money in a different way. Carol becker says when neiman was teaching the art institute of chicago way back in the nineteen fifties. He was saturday admissions and he thought that was wonderful. Young woman that she should get study and no-one agreed with him and the reason didn't agree with him was she was african american. He was just horrified so when it became successful he wanted to be sure that anyone who had talent could go to school and become an ours and we put money towards that gave scholarship money for that purpose. Leroy donated scholarships for low income art students and started several art programs for high schoolers. He donated the center for prince studies at columbia university. Where young artists learn from more experienced print makers and we're artists who've never worked in print making it all can try their hand at it. Part of the proceeds from those prince fund. More student scholarships most super famous artist and made his kind of big bucks neiman gave back to back on stage at the columbia. Commencement ceremony jerry. Saltz was hearing a lot of this for the first time and realizing when it came to neiman i never relate spent much time. The truth is the whole art world never spent much time on the royal neiman. Gary gave his speech and at the end of the ceremony. Out of nowhere. Janet talked his wife. Came up to me with sheet of paper. And said leroy wanted you to have this and i looked down and saw an incredible quick sketch portrait of me talking with my hands. My big mouth open gesturing. And it said jerry saltz addresses columbia graduates leroy neiman. May something two thousand nine. And i looked down. And all on my i guess. Cloaking devices and defenses and our world self-importance dropped for a minute. I've always considered myself a kind of populous a people's critic and in this moment i suddenly realized lee y name in spite of me not loving or liking. His work had for a lifetime done. When i had been preaching to the students exactly to do which was your style finds you and that it is your trump to explore its furthest reaches and i suddenly understood that leroy name had done exactly this. And just like the grinch. On christmas. Jerry felt his chest start to twitch and swell. Why heart opened and thought well. Gosh darn it. I can accept leroy neiman. Even if he's not my cup of tea team he is a cup of tea is a real specific cup of tea. And you know what that's not easy to do. Listen one of the hardest things to do for any artist is to develop a style. That is both instantaneously recognizable as that person style and also the style says something. Neiman style definitely says something loudly and proudly but it doesn't say the same thing to everybody. If you walk into the smithsonian's national museum of american history you'll find a floor to ceiling painting of eighteen jazz masters. What's your first reaction when you look at the painter. i think it would be exuberant. It's incredibly vibrant. I think oh my god. That's so ugly. There's something very often. Celebratory and fon when i look at big bam. The problems fall away a little bit. I see launch. There's no one set of standards to judge art. The elite art world may prize a certain critical view of the world and exclusivity challenge whereas popular. Culture may respond to work. That feels relatable charismatic but insured. It seems like you could not have been both leroy neiman and accepted by art because he was accepted by everyone else and that seems like a paradox to me because the point of art is to show your vision of the world and neiman had his and the fact that it's accessible being a negative says more about the art world and its parameters than really whether neiman was a successor. Not in one thousand nine hundred. Five nieman told american artist magazine. Maybe the critics are right. But what am i supposed to do about. It stopped painting. Change my work completely. Go back to the studio. And there i am at the easel again. I enjoy what i'm doing. And i feel good working. Other thoughts are just crowded out. It was duke. Ellington told me when one favorite quota have from duke we all become more. We already are not a great student. We all become more of a we already are we roy. Neiman didn't make art for the critics. He made the art he felt compelled to make and jerry salt says. That's the only way to do it. I would only say to anybody listening to this. Podcast get to work you big babies. There's something really big in you. That wants to self replicate get out of its damn way and make some bad art. You've been listening to side door. A podcast from the smithsonian with support for npr x. For pictures of leroy neiman's big band painting check out our newsletter but also include links to the smithsonian's collection of leans personal papers in the archives of american art. It's like seventy linear feet of mostly playboy magazines. You can subscribe at sl that edu slash side door special thanks this episode to the leroy neiman and janet vernon nieman foundation. Especially tara's abor. Dan d'auray heather long and janet neiman. Thanks also to jerry saltz. Ken johnson and carol becker big shout. Out to our at the smithsonian's national museum of american history stephanie. Ten camry theo. Gonzalez's eric jentzsch john. Trautmann crystal klingenberg valencia. Helbig and laura. Deaf thank you to smithsonian focus recordings for contributing music for this episode and to our very own smithsonian jazz masterworks which you also heard to learn more go to smithsonian jazz dot. Org are podcast. Team is just. O.'neil james morrison stephanie. Delay on sick and cannon. Caitlyn schaefer timmy. O'neill just tzadek lehrer. Koch and sharon bryant episode. Artwork is by dave leonard. Extra support comes from jason genevieve at pr x. Our show is mixed tareq fuda. Our theme song and episode music are by brake master cylinder. If you want to sponsor our show please email sponsorship at p r x dot org. I'm your host lizzy peabody. Thanks for listening. Big babies. tell jerry. I said jere. Possibly in any way honestly like neiman's were he says he likes thinkings prevaricated. I'll tell him you said so can johnson. You are great critic and a good painter in newer one damn much. I'll pass the message along to use words like prevaricate. For god's they lie.

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Ode to Cicadas

Sidedoor

32:26 min | 4 months ago

Ode to Cicadas

"This aside doors a podcast from the smithsonian with support for npr ex. I'm lizzy peabody a couple of weeks ago. I was sitting on my front steps with my morning coffee waiting for my brain to wake up. As they sat there holding my mug staring off into space i noticed a twitch of movement off to my right it was a bug a big bug about the size of my thumb with big red buggy eyes and large folded wings and as soon as i saw it i noticed another on the steps below it and another next to that one and another and another there. Were cicadas all around me. Brewed tens akitas arrived quietly under cover of night but there is nothing quite about what happened next. I am inside my house right now. Let's go on a little walk here. I'm opening my front door. The sound on my front porch. Dc this june is a hot hot sucato club where the music is loud. And the cicadas are thirsty. After seventeen years underground biding their time in the cool damp darkness. Billions of bugs are crawling up into the light boston out of their shells and taking to the skies. They waited since george w bush's presidency for their one shot to meet and they only have four weeks to do it and we're gonna walk four houses up the street to this one tree. That caters really seem to love a lap. Up in the trees in the final days of their lives. The cicadas sing different layers their calls. You can hear the ones that are right here in this tree. And then he can hear the echoes of the bugs that are in neighboring trees and it sounds like a siren off in the distance. This sound is a sonic portal to the past. We don't have audio recordings this old. But for millions of years cicadas have burrowed and reemerged again and again singing their primordial refrain. We hear it today just as our human ancestors hurt it thousands of years ago even the dinosaurs heard it. And if you close your eyes could almost imagine yourself in jurassic world. Okay welcome back to my house now. So this time on side door will learn more about this. Ancient insect who's alien life cycle and siren song have captivated the human imagination for thousands of years after the break. But you can still hear them. Can't get enough side door. Well there's more sign up for the side door newsletter to get behind the scenes content for each episode. There's so much more to our stories than we can fit into each episode. The newsletter is worse cider producer. Just know o.'neil and i can share photos videos. Facts and favorite moments that for whatever reason didn't make it into the podcast. You can also find links to articles and more specifics about the research being done here at the smithsonian across the country and beyond sign up at sl dot edu slash side door. That's sl dot edu slash side door. Side door is brought to you by progressive. Have you tried the name your price tool yet. It works just the way. It sounds utah progressive. How much you want to pay for car insurance and they'll show you coverage options that fit your budget. It's easy to start quote and you'll be able to find a rate that works for you. It's just one of many ways. You can save with progressive. Get your quote today at progressive dot com and see why four out of five new auto customers recommend progressive progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates price and coverage match limited by state law. All right if you put me in a dark closet without a watch or a calendar and told me to come out in seventeen days. I would not be able to do it. So how can a bug underground count seventeen years. This is one of the many questions i wanted to ask. Floyd shockley There were lots last week down here on the ground but as you can see they mode this weekend and so It was a sucato apocalypse. But here's a really beautiful female and entomologist at the smithsonian's national museum of natural history. We're taking an urban. Cicadas safari right outside the museum on the national mall. He's carrying a mesh cage of lives. Akitas to show me and wearing a tee shirt with a giant security graphic. That says brewed ten. Like a ban t. If your favorite band only performed once every seventeen years in an epic multiday concert floyd is in charge of the thirty five million insects in the museum's collections. Which includes twenty. Five thousand cicadas. So he knows a lot about these guys. Let's start with the basics. What is this a keta. Wow okay so. That's a really great question so cicadas are true bugs. The museum sucking mouth parts they are entirely herbivores so they only feed on plant juices. They don't feed on other insects or vertebrates or anything. Their bunch of different kinds of cicadas. But they all share the same basic life cycle. It starts when they hatch from tiny eggs late in the branches of trees after they hatch they dropped to the ground and burrow into the dirt under the tree there. They grow from the size of a grain of sand into the size of a peanut. What are these guys doing underground. So that's a great question. A lot of people assume that they are hibernating or sleeping and they're not actively tunneling and feeding. If they were asleep they would not be awake to detect the yearly pulses turns out. Cicadas used trees to tell time remember. These guys are trying to time it just right seventeen year emergence and they use the pulses that the trees produce yes so so xilin changes direction and changes in density. What is silence. asylum is the nutritive fluid. The trees us they move it back and forth down into the routes easily cicadas feed on the roots of trees and at different times of the year. The mix of water and nutrients in the tree roots. Changes in the. Cicadas can tell The cicadas can actually detect these pulses ended. The same pulses that produce tree rings. When you cut down a hardwood tree you might see rings. Those same pulses are counting for the cicadas. In case you're keeping track not in the sense of counting on their sucato fingers. they don't have fingers. The do have a molecular clock built into their dna. That tells them when the right number of years has gone by so brewed ten. That's seventeen years and when it hit seventeen then it switches from that to Looking for soil. Temperatures to hit sixty four degrees before they're triggered to emerge. Cicadas stay underground anywhere from two to seventeen years depending on the type of keta brewed ten. Here is the largest group of seventeen year. Cicadas when the soil temperature is just right nearly a trillion of them crawl out of the darkness together a trillion the washington post estimates. That's up to thirty. Cicadas per square foot and that number is still only. Two percent of the original eggs laid the keta tunnel up at the ground during the night leaving little holes behind them at this point they don't have wings yet. They're called nips and they look like something leftover from the dinosaur times. How would you describe a cicada nymphs to somebody who's never seen one before Well it's really hard to describe them. I mean they almost look Kind of like shrimp Honestly i kind of think they look like fleas combined with a hippopotamus. That's a that's a vivid visual And if you average their sizes i feel like about right if we walk over to the tree We might find some shelves. Oh yeah they're a bunch down here as soon as they come out of the ground. The shrimp likes the cadence start climbing banisters stairs. Lampposts your leg. Anything to get off the ground as they prepare to transform from digging bug to a flying one. Then the cicadas nymph splits open its shell and uses out and this is it it. It's it's really kind of weird to watch. It takes a little while and the whole says. They're pulling themselves out and then they'll hang from the shell and they'll let gravity kind of stretch out their abdomen. 'cause the adult that comes out of the shell is bigger than the shell came out free of. Its shell the adults. Akita needs about a week of in our before it's ready to mate and basically just sits around. It doesn't even eat it just well. I like to think. It's probably meditating. On what the heck just happened. You live for seventeen years in the dark thinking. You're digging bug and all of a sudden. You're in the blinding light. And you have wings and everything is trying to eat you. Rabbits will eat. Cicadas squirrels will lead cicadas birds. All mammals eat them reptiles lethem frogs. Eat them really and of course people can eat them everything. It's the. cicadas are. Nature's perfect high protein snack and they're basically defenseless. they're only survival strategy. Something called predator meaning predators stuff themselves silly at the all you can eat a buffet. But there are still more cicadas so the individual survivorship is very very low but species. Survivorship is guaranteed. Here's what i love cicadas. They don't stink. They don't bite. They don't even tried to hide. They crawl at turtles pace. They fly like toddlers run with velocity but not a lot of control and as bad as they are at flying they are even worse landing. They just bonk into things and phone their backs and wiggle their legs in the air. They're sweet and slow and vulnerable the cows of the insect world. I love him. I mean look at as a demonstration of my trust. So i mean they're so gentle. I mean literally if you give him a second. Look putting it on your face. i just want to narrate. Oh he flew away. It's like all right off that's okay. That's okay no. They're totally safe They're not gonna hurt you. Kate is are here to make love not war out. Here trying to find mates. They couldn't care less about you. Know us paying attention to them or it's just they're looking for love and they only have four weeks to do it so they're on a mission that's right. It's no stealth mission. The sound we hear in the trees is the mating. Call of the male. Cicadas but how does a little bug making noise so big so that might actually be easier to to demonstrate. Yeah let's let's take a look. Let me grab one of the males we have in our cage here. Okay floyd reaches into the mesh cage female. I've a male scenario goodness. Very you can tell the mail from the females by the shape of their rear end the wing out of the way with the hurt him. Ketley lists the cicadas wing. So now if you look down see that silver structure right there. That's what's known as timbale and it's like a silvery circle right behind the league. So they're using muscles to deform the timbale and then when they released the muscle The temple snaps back creating the sound but they're doing it so quickly. Three hundred to four hundred times a second. It turns into a were instead of a pop governor. So it's it's very similar to the mechanism that Cats used per right the male. Cicadas body is hollow like a drum to amplify the sound. it's so loud. The cicadas has to cover his own ears when he sings so he won't defend himself. And i love this male. Cicadas work together to ladies by singing in unison. It's called the chorus when they when they formed the larger groups and they begin to sing. It's of course the is are loud enough to ward off birds that might otherwise swoop in for a snack. But floyd says that's just a side. The main point is to catch the attention of a pretty female flying by way over there. If all of a scream at the same time she's gonna hear us and over It just so happens to be loud enough that it also displays the birds. It's a very collaborative approach to meeting by. Do they not compete. Really no not really. I mean it's all female driven the female decides which mail she's gonna make with and she'll let The mail that she has decided on no by flicking her wings. Sounds a little bit like light snapping your fingers something like that So consider yourself warned. You walk down the street insecurity season snapping your fingers to a song in your head. You might be dive bombed by amorous bugs. It's entirely possible or if you use tools Males will often assume that you are setting up like the world's best chorus and they will come and swarm you so lawnmowers or a leaf blower or something like that. They will swarm you thinking that you're setting up to two females and they want to be in your core that's exactly right. There's something other worldly about the sound of cicadas. It seems to come from nowhere and everywhere thousands of cicadas calling out from the treetops. After a lifetime underground it's almost alien in fact it may have inspired some iconic alien sound from film and tv classics you know for instance The sound of the spaceships in the original or the worlds sound of the radioactive ants was used in the nineteen fifties classic them with the giant ants also the sound of first generation star trek phasers. What if you listen closely bio phases so we've been using sakina songs in lots of different ways I would suspect long before hollywood to do it when we come back. We look at how. The ancestors of today's cicadas captured. The imaginations of our own human ancestors. Long before hollywood after the break love learning new things on side door. Here's something you might not know. The smithsonian relies on support from people like you to make all of the research discoveries and exhibitions here about possible smithsonian experts are addressing critical issues in the field of science history art and culture issues that affect us all. And you can be a part of it. A lot of people listen to side door. Imagine what we learn next if everyone shift in just a little. Find out how at sl that edu slash contribute. We're back and we're talking about cicadas. They're a bunch of different kinds of cicadas but you can basically divide them into two groups annuals and periodical tables the seventeen year cicadas deafening. Dc are periodicals. They stay underground for long periods and emerge all at once in a mass cicadas explosion but then there are the annual cicadas which emerged every year the end of summer and you can find those all over the world including in china. That's where we find some of the oldest examples of cicadas in folklore. People even describe kita is a masterful musician. The master musician or the queen of the music queen of music lab hall much the four. They're of saying this is gal hong. She's a professional people player from china and the pizza is a two thousand year old chinese stringed instrument. Kind of like a mix between a guitar and a mandolin. Y'all hong says the pizza is the master of imitation salute. Kennedy people can emitted. Many many sounds began. Point can make a sound like a flowing water. A bowl win kita. You'll see tennis. People can be a ume into the soul. Many sounds and they Interesting instrument. I will say because it's a storytelling tool it is basically. You can't talk long story us at the music In this piece which go hong wrote and performed with the minneapolis guitar quintet. She tells the story of a hot hot summer day. Young men and women go to work in the fields and at the mid daybreak. When the cicadas sing they fall in love you can hear the plucking of guitars imitating the drone of the summer. Cicadas go. Hong was inspired to write this song after a trip to a remote part of southern china where she heard the cicadas song. A song passed down through oral tradition by the don people. An ethnic minority in china for the don community singing is a major form of communication is. Some people have said that among the wrong song takes the place of the written word. This is jim deutsche curator at the smithsonian center for folklife and cultural heritage and they have a very distinctive style of singing and that if at least traditionally if you are a visitor coming into the village you you will be welcomed by song. This was the case got home. I just listened to the people on the street. And i talked to them about a special key the song so this hallway sing if all sitting together on the speed. This is a recording of the cicadas song sung by the demon dong course during the two thousand thirteen smithsonian folklife festival so in this recording. It's young women singing in a course at type of polyphonic easter in which they mimic a very distinctive sound. That would here. Do we know where this song the cicadas song originated. Don't we don't we do not know where it began But it is something goes founded and maintain and shared among the people. Cicadas aren't just found in traditional chinese songs. they're also in poetry paintings and carvings. I mean we have almost eighty chinese pieces of art. Fit depict a cicada in the museum there. Just the popular dan stewart is curator of chinese art at the smithsonian's freer gallery of art and arthur. M sackler gallery. She says in ancient chinese culture. The cicadas journey from the earth to the sky made it a symbol of immortality. You have this idea of transcendence coming out of a dirt. Muck meyer in the earth and then to climb up the tree to the tallest branches and unfurl these beautiful delicate wings. It's transcended its rebirth. Jan says from the second century bc through the early third century a d it was customary to place a piece of jade carved in the shape of data on the tongues of the debt with the idea that jade itself is believed to have the power to prevent a body from decaying and the tone would have an amulet. The tongue amulet was almost always keta. I love the term tongue amulet. It's so poetic. Like i can feel it on my toes kind of cold hard lozenge to just like sit on your tongue for eternity and jade itself is a very wonderful stone to touch. It's it is a cold hard stone but it feels just slightly oily. Just it's just so pleasant to touch. So jade itself is associated with immortality and then the cicada associated with immortality double-whammy double-whammy indeed. But you don't just find cicadas on the tongues at the dead there also on the headwear of the high and mighty and antiquity. Even some buddhist deities have been carved with a headdress has a keta ornament the idea. Is that sucato our noble. Not the adjective. I'd choose but jan explained. Cicadas were seen as lofty because they go to the highest branches of a tree and they were said to subsist on quote wind. And do they seem to be able to sustain themselves purest of lifestyles and they have these gigantic is which easily leads to an interpretation that they're all seeing and so they become an appropriate idea for a ruler ruler. I think i'd go with a lion on my head dress. But john says the. Cicadas signaled refinement. Modesty and full awareness of one's surroundings which has not been my experience of cicadas. It is a very good point that they don't seem to actually be successful at navigating up. But i think there is just so suggestive that they should be whether you love them or you load them. The sakina is a remarkable bug. Takeda is a remarkable bug. And it's something that human beings have noticed for for as long as there have been human beings interacting with cicadas while the earliest relics come from china. Jim deutsche find cicadas in folklore across cultures around the world from ancient greece to the hopi and navajo. People the papa. New guinea to the rainforests of malaysia to indonesia south africa and in all of these stories and songs the cicada represents everything from indolence and laziness to pain and sorrow to joy and rebirth. The impression that i get is that cicadas are kind of like a blank canvas for allegory. You can see what whatever you need to see. Reflected in the keta that many of the creatures animals birds insects that human beings encountered are obliged canvas onto which we human beings project some of our ears anxieties hopes and dreams so in this year of twenty twenty one. The brewed ten. Cicadas are emerging from their subterranean homes. Just as much of the world begins to emerge from a year long isolation and. I can't help this urge to do what. So many others have done and looked to the cicada for some kind of guidance. So back on the national mall. I had one more question for entomologist. Floyd chocolate. what can we learn from cicadas. Will you can either look at it as an annoyance or you can look at it as the natural phenomenon that it is and a gateway to getting back outside enjoying nature enjoying sort of being around Other organisms whether they be people or otherwise. So i think there's a lot to kind of take away from that as far as what we can learn from watching them. It's this idea a rebirth reemergence. And we're going to enjoy ourselves while we can. That's a great message. I think we can learn that you can be the bottom of the food chain and yet actually still have such power in respect over human imagination. I mean just think they are eaten by everybody in the gazillion and yet there is so much art and culture dedicated to them because they are wondrous so maybe it should teach us to temporary ambitions. I love that. That's all i want to be. Sucato to be a cicadas good enough to feel very happy for millions of years. Cicadas have sung their refrain disappearing and returning again. They're strange song reminds us that we're part of that. Continuum connects us to the past but also to the future soon. The next generation will hatch and begin burrowing and it makes me think. Where will i be in another seventeen years. Where will you. Where will we one thing. Is certain the cicadas will be back in all their noisy. Glory again and again and again and again you've been listening to side door a podcast from the smithsonian with support for npr ex. To see pictures of the cicadas collection at the smithsonian's national museum of natural history which goes back hundreds of years. 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They Called This a Movie Episode 71 - Sonic the Hedgehog (2020)

They Called This a Movie

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They Called This a Movie Episode 71 - Sonic the Hedgehog (2020)

"I'm sonic little ball of Subaru Energy in an extremely handsome package on my planet. People were always after my powers so I came to yours. It gets a little lonely but that's okay. I am living my best glide broader. The voice at the dismount also son. I can't with that guy hiding out in my garage power. They could conquer the universe. You have to help me please. It's life or death good morning my rural chump. Mr Dr Ovonic. I'm going to give you five seconds to tell me what is happening to me. Oh my God stop because what the world's largest rubber band ball we got to see it. No this is not some fun family road trip. You're right it was lame. Give Shabas cool though. Whatever this creature is I'm going to uncover the source its power. I just thought you might like a lot with steamed Austrian goat milk. Of course take them. We gotta lay low. Let me show you how it's done to get out of here. Yeah time to go. I always wanted to do this. You not dead. I have no idea that was illegal. Left away on his cute. Let's keep you've got car insurance right. Why would you throw your life away for this synod of alien time because my friend? Let's see this is my power and I'm using it to protect my friends so you're supposed to be Tom's best friend that he won't shut up about a lot. I don't see feel very grows to they. Call some movie testing the strength of friendships. One terrible movie at a time. Subscribe to the PODCAST and podcast services by searching. They call this movie. We were part of the main naming. I work with to find more for the website. The maintenance dot com or on twitter facebook and Instagram at amy. We're so now. Proud member Geek vibration you can find them at GB NATION DOT com. What they call this movie. This Anthony Delvecchio with me is always Dan. Acquino when Mark Myers. Hello Gentlemen. Hey everybody. I'm finishing a Chili Dog. Geez WE'RE GONNA move on from from that one to introduce because we have a very special episode this week Mark L. Though he never really mentioned on this podcast has a video game. Podcast the game volt podcast and we have here today with us is his Co host on that. Show Tom Schuster and Jenny. Acquino say hello. Tom Do Great. That's all he wanted right. Say in terms of energy. Well as long as you don't try one a bit that mark. Wow that might have been your worst. No no it's the fast and the furious bit from a couple of weeks ago on our podcast made. We put the Kabosh on on this one. Because I was sensing that he's GonNa try toy a double double up on that one so for episode one hundred. We'll rank your worst ones. Today is a semi special episode. We have them on here to talk about the much maligned. Twenty twenty to release known as sonic the HEDGEHOG. We decided to do this episode before we all watched it obviously and now. It's doing gangbusters in theaters. So here we are to talk about it but before we go into it everybody. What is your experience going in with? Sonic the HEDGEHOG and we'll start with the. We'll start with guest Tom. What's your experience with? Sonic the Hedgehog in terms of past and present my experience with sonic goes a long way back. I didn't own it genesis as a kid but I had plenty of friends. Who did I always liked to play? Sonic but I didn't play on it. I guess like a normal person. Would I literally tried to run through it as fast as possible? Good every time because sonic is fast. So why wouldn't I also pretty big Fan of the Saturday morning cartoon that the one that did the voice for Sonic Julia White to the Voice of Sonic and now that I'm a retro Gamer? And that's like what I do. I own like almost all the sonic games so I now get to go back and relive them. Whatever want genuine about you. I'm the opposite of all of you probably. I never really played sonic and the first time I really played. It was for Retro Roulette on our own. Podcast you're welcome. Yeah thanks okay. And our usuals Denmark where you coming from. I'm coming from somewhere. Were taught in the middle with Tom. I didn't I also known as Sega Genesis but I have family members who did I loved. Sonic Sonic and sonic to with tales. Tales was my favourite. His I was always. I was always second player with my cousin. I never watched the cartoon. But I've seen bits and pieces of it. And he just seemed very mean in the cartoon like I guess he was trying to come off his edgy and cool but he always seemed like he was condescending towards the other animals and everything and I wasn't a fan of that sure he had an attitude the two era. I don't like that man you know. Just just be nice. Why can't everyone just be nice to each other? What I have Dan. Do we have on this? Podcast is one of the trust me. He's not doing anything special because I'm around. I'm a nice guy. I am a nice guy literally. I'm a nice. You have to bury this podcast. Skip this week. Start over between the Chili dog incident. And now this creepy Nice Guy Voice so experience with sonic. I had a Sega Genesis and I was probably much more back. Zen of Kid Mario Kid. Because Genesis was my system the any s was the family slash. My sister system with shy meant that I had to play Mary three when the family was around or something but this was the first one that was in my room on my TV. So I got to play a sonic the hedgehog for for as long as the one in Australia with cartoons comics. You had all to three and sonic and knuckles. I even ended up buying sonic adventure for the dreamcast. Which is when I realized. Maybe this is going in a bad direction. That's when he realized. Yeah that's why I realized you know. I was really into sonic at that point until it's only been in teenage to early twenties years that. I realized that Mario is much better game overall but I think I play Sonic Mania which we played on the extra livestream. I'm a little bit next just because it reminds me of all those old games. I wasn't allowed to play. Sonic right. It was too. I know too violent now. I just didn't have a SEGA GENESIS MY COUSIN DID. I never really cared. Play Nintendo kid through and through. Although I did watch the show I think I played one level of sonic mania extra extreme and that is my sonic. I was super indifferent to this movie going in and I am super indifferent coming out of it but to go into a little bit of detail Sonic the Hedgehog of twenty twenty and it was directed by Jeff Fowler who directed an animated short called Gopher broke sixteen years ago. And that's it. It's it's stars the Voice of been Schwartz as the titular. Sonic the hedgehog. Jim Carey James Marston. Tika sumpter Natasha. Rothwell Adam pally has an IMDB score of Seven Point Zero. Mayo score of as of Monday. Sixty four percent budget. Eighty five million dollars estimated box office as of opening weekend. Fifty seven million. Us opening the a little backgrounds of this film originally released by Sony Pictures. Under the Columbia pictures arm sometime in two thousand. Eighteen rights were eventually acquired by paramount pictures and in February twenty eighteen announced it would be released on November Fifteenth Twenty Nine Thousand Nine than the decided to put it up to November eighth and then they released a trailer on April fourth. Two thousand nineteen the faded trailer premiered cinema con. Was that day that will live in. Yeah they showed it on send. Mcconnell April four twenty nineteen and eventually was released on April thirtieth to the Internet's to very negative reception. Took them a bout four days or so. And then they decided to announce that they were going to redesign. Sonic may second twenty nineteen and then they released a trailer after that work was done on November Twelfth With the new design of sonic too much more positive perception that was released on February fourteen. Twenty twenty they estimate of the redesigned cost about five million dollars so do bad number. I don't know how much they spent on marketing. So that those are always the numbers that are kind of hidden but if the this movie makes two hundred million dollars and it's probably money well spent but at this point. What do you guys think about this film? Let's go first time. I enjoyed it. I went in with low expectations. Just because I know how well they do game movies do and how. They bastardize characters very quickly. It was interesting how they tried to write a new origin story for sonic. I guess sonic never really had one so it was kind of interesting to see them come up with their own. I like the little amount of Fan Service. They did with a couple of things like they snuck in the sonic the hedgehog theme song. At some point Marco bring up some other stuff that they did but I think a seven is a very fair score for it right now. It was a popcorn. Movie is all I could call it. Jim I'm excited to hear. I think the best way for me to describe how I felt about. It was just affirming the fact that it was a kids movie. I can't be too harsh on it for what it was. I didn't hate it. There are parts of it where I felt like it was a little cheesy but again. That's what kids love. The most and there are some things I got. I could improve upon I did like the little bit of Fan Service that they had an lake. Tom Said how they played the sonic theme song towards the end of the movie. That was cute. I kind of wish they did a little bit more of that in the little bit of sonic that I know I could have appreciated that kind of stuff a little bit more but overall I'd say I'm a little bit lower than Tom. I would give it a six out of ten about you. Dan. I didn't hate it. I also didn't love this movie. I think it was harmless again. It's a kids movie so going into it. I figured you know it. They were going to have certain things that would appeal just to the kids and I was hoping there would be some stuff. That appeal to grown ups wasn't too much of that. But I like Jim Carrey He went back to more of his slapstick way of acting that he was phenomenal. But he didn't ruin the movie I enjoyed him James Marston again. One of the most overlooked actors in Hollywood. I think he's such a nice guy he looks like you do. Do you. Just WanNa hang out with and everyone just kinda passes over him and I think the redesign definitely helped the movie out I. I can't imagine sitting there for an hour and a half looking at the abomination that was first passed. Wow Oh my God that fuel i. I would be too distracted at looking at a semi realistic Blue Hedgehog. Yeah it would have taken me out of the movie but Yeah I think for what it was doing. It did well It was semi faithful to the I mean. How faithful can you be to just a hedgehog running as fast as you can around loop de loops and going through fire pits and whatnot. But I you know listen I left thinking or you know. I didn't hate it so I will get. I'm going to split the difference. I would say six and a half more towards the seven area good mark yes so I was. I was excited going in just because it was either going to be something that I enjoyed or it was gonna be such terrible message that we just fun. Sitting in that theater watching it collapsed so I was. I was a little nervous when they started the origin. Story until they showed That the people that live on the island were a kidnaps Like knuckles So I was like all right. They're not completely abandoning You know the history of sonic try to write their own thing There at least sticking close to that And it was just the whole movie is is a very fine kids movie like there's not much to hate about it. It'll probably fall under the same realm if I ever get to see detective. Pink atro- in Nat- it's it'll have some good references for us in some. You know good jokes for adults and people fans of series. But it's not going to be overly you know end up on anybody's top ten list or anything like that for the year At I completely agree with Dan in in terms of James Marston He should get a lot more You know leading man roles. We watched a movie A few weeks ago. You know killers with Ashton Kutcher and I'm like I'd much rather see James Marston in that role you know coming out of this moving You know it's just I don't I don't know I don't know why it's just everything I've seen him in. I've liked So it was nice to see that you know he. He brought that same Acting ability to this this role in didn't like make feel like a paycheck movie But I gotta say they they did they did a real good job of giving sonic reasons To have the a emotional rollercoaster. Kinda goes through in the movie Because there's none of that in a series of video games. He's always you know the top of the food chain super happy. Go Lucky Kinda thing but they they. They tried to inject the best they could without going over kids. Heads you know why certain things happened in the movie and I thought that was well done. It could have been very poorly written In very cheesy and You know just try to talk down to the kids. It's it's my one. Pet peeve kids movies is I just don't want them to really talk down to the kids like you can like I remember all the movies we grew up with and a lot of them. They feel like you know They they talk down to we were imbeciles watching the movie. And that's what I enjoy. It is at this. Did enough that. Even the the kids around me didn't get bored or start making noise or anything in the movie theater. Everybody was locked in. So that's my number one takeaway. Today did their job. Is that experience so when the the movie talks dumb to me though helps me recognize what's going on here and yeah I would probably put it at. Yeah I would say it's fine so like a seven is probably good. There's nothing really terrible in it There are some parts that you're like. Okay it's not for someone my age But does that mean I wouldn't watch a sequel? No you know I I would definitely watch the sequel to this movie But Yeah Yeah. It's not. It's not the complete catastrophe that we thought it was GONNA be Unlike a movie like cats which turned into the catastrophe that we thought it was going to be. And I'm actually pleasantly surprised by that. It's the world's most okays movie. It's really what it comes down to and unmemorable with me. What's up one point? Did you feel like sonic was gonna Steal Tika Sumpter from James Marston? There was definitely some sexual tension going. There was right. And that's that's this always happens to James Marsden right. Yeah absolutely has the girl and then some dude swoops in and just takes takes the sorting X. Men podcast. I did think about that that during the movie. I was like well in this movie. James Martin can't possibly lose the girl that's not true in in Superman returns was in lowest and I don't know his character's name weren't they were engaged. I think they had a kid but it was soups kid. Still they clean. And this is the Hollywood's cuck and James Morrison. I never actually thought about that until you just brought up. And now he's going through my head and I'm like get lost on that one. Yeah enchanted the thing of it is. It's that he's he's always super nights even when he loses the girl. It's never likely several. Because he's the bad guy it's like he's the bad guy that loses girls like oh well all right well. I hope there's someone out there for me is the first season of Westworld is entirely. That James gets killed the end of every day. I feel bad for him. But if James if you're listening you can live with us and we won't leave you. Wow right you can have my wife completely unintimidated by James Morrison James Marston. To be part of my life. Somehow he's again. He seems like a Super Nice Guy. He's the nicest handsome guy in Hollywood someone. Someone showed a picture of him Holding a giant gigantic umbrella might just thought well you know what he he probably has that for loved ones and he just. There's no loved ones in his life are you. Are you reading a James Martin advantage fiction? I'm just I'm trying to rising to our lives. I think I think fifty shades for you. Then maybe if we got James Marston in fifty shades Arab way I would. I would watch that. Yeah that's a good swamp. I WANNA make the end of this this podcast. I WANNA make a list of movies. I would have been better. That's a new segment would make this better. I'm all for it. Yeah made it up. Yeah sure you are to me. This movie is a six at kids are GonNa love it and more power to them It's it's better than it needs to be. I don't know maybe I'm just coming at it with a no invested interest in sonic It it was a movie I saw and I'll probably forget about. I was barely able to write the plot because I forgot what most things that happened in it. It's going to live in my short term memory for maybe week and then I it will eventually just find. Its way out. I WON'T WATCH I probably won't watch It was just fine. Jim Carey was fine. Like through the first forty five minutes and then I kinda grow grew tired of him Defying Project Real quick. I feel like they hired Jim Carey to just be Jim. Carrey from nineteen ninety five. I think that's all they wanted. He wasn't bad but he was stretched super thin by the end where he was just kind of like all right well they only had one he only had one place to go and got their super early like you went to eleven in the first scene he was in and then he had the tried sustain that for the rest of the movie. It's tough when you're asked to be a character named Dr Rohbock Net. You know it's there's really not much material to work with their and you're maniacal genius Danny Mean Egg Man Right. Dr Robot McBride is an issue. Yes yes but Edmund stuff. His name's robotic but in Japan is named Agni and I thought that was cool. How Sonic Calls Him Egghead. Egg Man and everything like that and the service that we appreciated but yeah I agree I think after awhile. It gets a little sticky with the Jim Carrey but again where world could he really go? You can't turn in a powerhouse performance. All here from ant is that they need to release foul cut yet because this is GonNa be the one film. Jeff Fowler directs for long. I'll maybe not maybe not to he'll get the sequel and who knows what else I mean. They seem to have hit on your hands. It's weird that this movie has become the The male representative in the culture wars of women versus men. Yeah this is. I think we need to Redo and figure out a better one. Yeah we need to hit the reset button. Hard on that one. But that's really like the birds of prey fans of really made this war. They started it for some odd reason. You're getting an. I was kind of disappointed in this. I before going to the movie I saw a bunch of tweets that sonic had like homophobic slurs. And everything who WanNa pick out what the slurs are just to see if people are telling the truth and I thankfully there are none but I was a little disappointed. You dislike out. Well they're liars. I wanted to see if they tried to sneak something through and then they go got him but no. This was a very clean very family friendly movie. From top to bottom so to recap. Dan is disappointed that they dropped. The the F-. I'm disappointed that these people would lie. They will go to such lengths to lie about it. I'm very that there is nothing like that in there. That would've bummed me out but I I thought to myself. Ooh This could be interesting because now I'm going to try to pinpoint what these people are talking about. Yeah there were well. Don't worry when the sequel comes out there and they're they're gonNA they're gonNA introduce tails and he's just the most racist character in the Sonic Universe. She because it's it's okay from where they come from yet. We would say certain words the Amazon. Something different there right. It's it's like how like how a certain word in like in England is a cigarette or a bundle of wood. I'M NOT GONNA SAY IT ON THE PODCAST. But we're GONNA go far with this joke. I'm just saying the middle of the road for this podcast. I'm making sure I never has never come before last episode. We don't say anything bad but we told the line and just we. We may have also insinuated that Jay Z and fiancee told Obama where the send the drone strikes as well with this. Let's bring mentioned about the time cop episode better. That was a good episode. Go back if you're listening. Go Back Yeah you could probably check out here on this one. That's fun time cop one though that one that one's going because of implications I thought it was really interesting that Dc was in this movie Comic YET SONIC READING FLASH COMICS PRETTY INTERESTING THEY. They've now shown that the flashes thing in this universe Canon now. Yay whose faster the flasher sonic. Let that maybe. We'll find out in a sequel. I hope kit three hundred miles per hour in this movie right. Yeah so flashes. Way Faster the speed force. Sonic did not go supersonic Dan. He didn't realize those samples. Yeah I went. He basically goes super saying if you've seen dragon ball or dragged Chelsea. It's the same type of deal. If he gets all six Kassim. Yeah Yeah right as one does turns yellow central and then he snaps his fingers. What happens nothing? Really? Just think fucks James Marsden already balls deep and Tika sumpter. And I can't imagine Ben Schwartz voice just going to town thing inside of Ood war the Lexus. The Utah Say I could have picked a better voice for Sonic. I agree. And he wasn't bad but it wasn't he was he was okay. Just like the rest James Morris casting as the voice casts Jalil white to reprise his role as sonic out of an underpass in the Hollywood hills. Who who you. Who Do you think would have been Basic Goldberg? Who would have been a better voice for stock? Jeremy Renner when you put me on the spot. The answers Jeremy Renner cancelled so fast. If you put Ryan Reynolds's Pitcher. I don't see why he couldn't put Jeremy. Sonic thank the baggage that goes along with Jeremy. Renner though Yeah Story. The alleged check does all his line readings with a gun. Talk Apple Jeremy. Renner store You know a product placement and they're just like hundred other things they did in this. Oh yeah products in touch yet eighty. We have to stop at the Jeremy Renner store. Before we go to the olive garden it could have been featured at the biker Bar Rustic rustic. There's nothing I'm more. Sure of that. The writer one of the writers of this move eight fought for that olive garden joke the entire time the where they say the you know they had the back and forth finishing with your family. Yeah that thing like somebody in the Rhodesian fought for that to stay in the script they probably have stock in olive garden. Dude can I get some you know? People love. Plus for Valentine's Day was the never ending but stick bouquet or whatever so maybe that's why he had the product placement. There was a couple of others but I can't remember them off the top of my Pepsi I think was Sony's pretty Dettori as for doing these obvious products don't with the power rangers they do like crispy cream and home depot and stuff like that. They had a lot of stuff Chevy truck I believe Toyota Toyota. Okay so I didn't know I'm not a car guy gave me this like come on. Dan as I said it like three times little. Chevy's your woman. How am I supposed to trustee with machinery driving? Jeez don't help him. Tom I was right. They were shifting. Clearly Chevron Chevy cars Chevrolet Express Chevrolet. There are several EPS right. So we're going to plot the Hedgehog of what we do we're gonNA take a step back and listen to a couple of words from friends of the gas so we will be right back. Hey everyone this is Steve. And this is Adam and more part of the hot nation. Usa podcast Pittsburgh's number three craft beer. Podcast join us. Every Friday for new gear reviews. We'll talk about the news history and homebrew plus. We'll sit down with the best brewers industry personalities. That'll have us so whether you're a casual drinker hazy boy hop head or even if you're a whale hunting sell order just search hop nation. Usa On apple spotify or your favorite podcast and join the nation. Ohi didn't see you there. It's me George from the best little horror house in Philly. The show where we talk about the best horror movie ever made according to our guest. At least we've talked about groundbreaking classics Texas chainsaw massacre an alien. But we've also got a lotta great ones coming up including some very fun guests like Len Cab Kinsky of swamp zombies and red letter media fame Caroline Williams the star of Texas chainsaw massacre two and Chase Williamson from John. Dies at the end. So make sure you're subscribed to the best little horror house in Philly and I'll see you boils and ghouls over there. Welcome back everybody. And it's time to get into the of sonic the HEDGEHOG. We open up in San Francisco the chase and some destruction as robotic chases sonic through the streets and is literally starts with a Yep. That's me you're probably wondering how I got myself into this situation. Not Agreeing to start because that was big when the movie was probably it was big when sonic was around. Yeah so from there. We flashback to when sonic was a young hedgehog and if this was written more recent they probably would have tried to capitalize on baby. Sonic but they didn't so he flashed back when he was young hedge hog and being taken care of bio L. Name Long Claw. Yeah I don't know People out there listening maybe can You know Tweeted the the account and let us know Is this the first appearance of this? How or is this either way? It was strange but it was something that happened right after this. That gave me hope for the rest of the movie. Yeah so maybe it's from. Sonic two thousand six But I don't know long claws now cannon and they'll probably have to read retrofitted into the upcoming summit Sonic Games move long claw warns that sonic needs to hide his secret powers or else bad people will try and capture him so basically the origin story of Elsa from frozen is taken put him into sonic. Sonic doesn't listen and a bunch of mask. The kid acuteness try to capture or kill him than long claw gives him a sack of rings that can help him teleport anywhere he wants to go and he and sends him to. Earth and long claws never seen again what you never see a body so all right good for example could be killed all the kids are going to be clamoring for more long claw his long claw. Jammie fluoride in the theater. After she died she was inconsolable for the next twenty minutes runs. Probably something that happened for Dan kid next to me was giving her tissues. It was very adorable. I don't know it's not real lady. That's what he kept saying. Not Real drawing her. Exactly what avenue? So we flash forward several years later and sonic is living in Green Hills. Montana which that's a little nod to the Green Hills Green Hills zone. That's the only thing I know about the about the game. Green Hill Zone. He's link living in secret among the townspeople and then we get to learn from his point of view Few of the towns people's names including Sheriff Akao Ski Plays by James Marsden and his wife. Mattie who is a veterinarian played by Tika sumpter and then we get crazy. Carl the only person that knows about sonic but shocks them up to just being crazy Hold on I need to interject. That was the act he actually showed. A drawing of Santic must've fast so they they were real woke. Yes so why? Is that considered woke? 'cause I don't mean I don't know. Oh okay whoa Santa thing is. It's a really really old mean. And the drawing he shows of. Sonic is that mean. Oh okay somebody on the dvr page or something or somewhere drew route Sadak. I just never took credit for it. You got a little too embarrassed but now that this movie's killing it. Nancy got eight hundred likes. Maybe he'll he'll reveal yourself as the second. I'd get thirteen hundred. Just you wait brother. I can't wait for your that. I've seen it slowdown. Though I'm stuck in each seventy six run another steam so sonic hangs out in the forest and some sort of underground cavity summit with a whole bunch of cool shit. He's got comics. Big Ads stereos. It's basically a common thief and all he really wants friends. The folks around troll Sheriff Tom at a speed trap and Tom Finds Quill that he leaves behind. Which is big and blue. And then we were a little backstory about Sheriff Tom. He gets accepted to join the San Francisco police force which is easily one of the worst career decisions ever made But he basically feels like he's a big fish small pond and has lived in greenhills his whole life but has a beautiful house which he's going to sacrifice for a three hundred square foot apartment worth forty six hundred dollars. I brought to you by Zillow. That was a product. That's right Zillow's on Mark I was Gonna say even mention it by name like I was looking at it on. Zillow the best place to find a new place to live wink. Sonic then happens upon a Little League Baseball game and watches a kid win the game and everyone's all happy and all his friends lift them up and all that kind of shit then when everybody leaves feel like. That's never been that's never happened to aunt. That's why he's just like lossing it over. That's not true actually stole home to win a baseball game when I was on that team. We have confirmation to an aunt is just like selling it back at me tonight. Goddamn this is my only former social interaction these days. So there with me and for some reason Somebody on twitter. Mark this moment up and Remind everybody that Tony Danza was tug out in the. Who's the boss opening credits? So yes it was like the guy was like yeah just reminder sonic scored ear but Tony Danza was out at home plate. And I'm like okay. I don't see the comparison here. That's a long grudge to hold. Yeah it was like somebody that's l. That GARAGE. Since he's the boss was on the air and he knows what he did. Finally I under account. That's why he died. In angels in the outfield knows. Where did where did he died in the outfield? He winds up dying eventually. He only gets like another six months or something like that as we all do. Officially die strew So after everybody leaves. Sonic does a whole bugs by routine after the game where he plays himself in baseball. But it's a super hollow exists in being the world's only blue alien hedgehog so he runs around the basis really fast with no specific goal in mind and then gets really electrical and sends out an emt of sorts and then that's all the power out in the Pacific northwest the blackout gets the attention the US government who thinks that could terrorist or some bunch of other explanations. The contract the job out to Dr. Ivo Robotic played with Jim Carey the greatest technology mine in the world has advanced drone technology and should be able to figure out what happened so robotic arrives in greenhills Vian enormous ticky camper with a team of smarmy assholes shows up when he talks down to neal McDonough. Who's playing an army major for the only for some reason and now I wonder if he had a bigger role and then they were like. Yeah you know what we only need you seen. I mean he's got a huge star but one of those faces like A. Hey I know that guy from something I don't know I don't remember what it is but I know that guy think he was in the street fighter movie right. The streetfighter reboot or something like that. He plays M Bison doesn't he he's all he's everywhere you think he is not but he's everywhere. I don't know if that's true though. He's a Canon now Dan. That's that's fact that he's the Internet works mouth. Oh Okay Fair. Enough for instance either and it becomes fact. If it's on a podcast. It must be true. It's everybody else's responsibility to prove your point point sending backtracking your coffee. I like I feel like he's a pretty good character actor right and anything you see him in. He's usually. He has a pretty good range. If I remember correctly yeah I forget when he was. He's he's in a bunch of I think he was in Captain America. Yeah he's like captain he's Dum Dum Dugan. Yep that's right. He was so good in that movie. I remember so much about him. Jim Carrey This is a full on Jeffrey. Combs and reanimator appear performance of ever seen one and robotic sends out his army of drones to find the cause of the blackout. And eventually it closes in on Sonic's home when he escapes and tries to find a place to hide. In order to engage those those Rings to go to the mushroom planet that he doesn't WanNa go to see. I thought this is the mushroom planet cannon. I think it was a reference to Super Mario Brothers. That's what I was thinking. I was thinking that the end credit sequence might have brought in Super Mario. I read that it's actually from sonic and knuckles Yes supposedly that's worth knuckles so I don't know if they're setting that up for the future. Maybe that's what I've heard. Does it played the game the introduction of knuckles and sonic three that robotic use 'em to try and kill sonic so that would make sense if they were setting that up. Okay so sonacare. Tom's house and hides out in the garage before he gets ready to use. Teleporting your house Tom. Lord and Everything. Dona has another thing. Sonic Calls Tom. Donut Lord. No Movie Jen and I were talking about this on the ride home. Because again I brought up the whole the tweets from the birds of prey fans so was the donut. Lord the Homophobic Slur. I Dunno now right. 'cause are we over thinking it. I didn't I didn't read the tweet that you read. So it's hard for me to tell it I one of them was kinda crazy. It's basically You know I took my family to see sonic the hedgehog. Hymns appalled by the homophobic slurs. That were being hurled so we went and saw birds of prey instead and had a great time. Will you took your kids to see an R. rated movie that sounds like a joke tweets me literal? No I don't maybe it was. I don't know slash S. After the I it was it was it was a person with the birds of prey a icon. So it's very possible now was I don't know now. Listen you're making me question reality here. It's right I don't fuck out of you you are and I don't like it so I'm GonNa ask you to stop doing it. Ultra you're dating dating Smith and you guys aren't real man will don't do it. Please stop it. Please having sonic in Tom's house then Tom's house and Tom's wife. Mattie is over in San Francisco visiting her sister and looking at apartments matty's sister for some reason hates Tom's guts and I think we all yes. She's the worst character in this movie. I found her funny. I did not I I like some of. I'd like when she got tied up if they kind of showed why she hated him so much a little bit more. Maybe it would have been better but I mean they do show you. I does look at James Marston Shelly. I've just look at him and then look at them. Are you saying she? She wants to break herself off. A piece of James Marsden. Is that why you think maybe it was like one of those things where they were Mattie and the sister at a bar and James Marston was there and like the the sister was like. Aw You know. He's fine his mother fucker. I'm GonNa go get me some of James Marsden and then James Marsden took a liking to Mattie instead Kinda like how Seymour. Skinner fell in love with the voice. You are writing fan fiction. I E SCAPE. The simpsons references. How do we do John? John Wall and Tom One of Dan's rea instagram and saw someone else named John and seven. I saw okay Steph. We get it wrong. We do Simpson's references at least once and for those at home Steph. Is Jen sister? That's a little behind the scenes Easter egg for you guys jokes so again. Tom Hears a noise in his garage. Kuhn so he's goes into shoot it with a trank but sonic and he opens up a portal. The San Francisco and drops a bag of rings on the transamerica pyramid before the portal closes. And he passes out so it sound puts them in a cage. Sonic eventually wakes up and walks right out of the cage and they kind of this is their meet cute and they just talk about. Hey some guys are coming for me and I lost my bag rings and I could talk and I'm weird blue jog. Tom's like that's crazy and then some German show up and he's like you gotta hide me. This is crazy in Tom's like this. Is CRAZY ITEM MY ATTIC? This is actual dialogue from the movie. Yes more or less manage crazy. Yeah Yeah it's it's a he. He's the most trusting cop I've ever seen. He doesn't really question much because he's like a sheriff in a real small town so he knows everybody I now want to. I don't know why he would want to leave right. That's such a sweet gig man. An instant especially to go to San Francisco Places Schiphol. It's become a beat cop in San Francisco. He Says I. I just want to walk the B. and help people no one's GonNa like you in San Francisco. Tom's getting shot like I. I'm I stay on the job right because he's very gullible. So you're dude. I need your help man start talking to a doughnut and get his ass off just crazy and then someone s for sure. Yeah Yeah it's like e even sonic who has. No friends was the one that was basically. What the Fuck Dude. He's the voice of reason in the situation so he hides sonic in his his attic and robotic is snooping around outside. And I was like you know. Fuck you doing outside my house. Can I help you and robotics like I think? He says he's like what the gas company or the Electric Company here to investigate Blah Blah Blah. And Tom sees right through that. And they kind of have their own dick measuring contests and dislike. I want to come in is like you can't and then and I feel he shows them his badge doesn't he? He does remember getting ready to shoot him with one of the The drones and he goes. You can't do this cop and again Rabbani says he's heard. Isa's like something about of course I can because you never existed or something. He was gonNA erase him. So robotic eventually goes to leave and then he sees the giant blue quill and then realizes something's not up sums not right on the drones show up and they're about to shoot Tom and Tom. Punches robotic in the face and the drone shoots the fuck out of the house and Tom and sonic get the fuck. Outta dodge the port. I LOVE HIS SONIC JUMPS OUT. And Cause me take me. Take me whatever. And then just floods robotic slim. Okay he just guy just told you he was like some kind of government official and you just punch across the face for this thing. You just met. He doesn't look like a government official. No yeah right and he just lied about being part of the electric company. You don't know what he's doing. Any showed up with drones. June goddamn house. Drone drones drones. That's a deep cut right there. I don't know if we're going to get that. It's fun I figure it out. It's got it. That's all the singer complaints to at decline one. Twenty two please do I look forward to it so sonic Tom hit the road? It's on existing. San Francisco treat as Bagger. Rings tells Tom that it's his fault. The rings are there so he has to help them get San Francisco. It sounds like that's true so I guess I guess I gotta go. He felt bad but shooting him just like well. He's got me did the rights. I did kind of let shoot them and then let his bag fall on the portal like. Hey Sonic here's a map to get the San Francisco and had to get to the TRANSAMERICA building. Just follow this Google map quest for. Yeah Yeah I like how they tried to right around the fact that he could have gotten there and five seconds but he just didn't know how to get there that was actually one part in the movie to maybe Laugh out loud. A little bit was when he tells me just go. West is just a straight shot west and runs back when he comes back with efficiency and essentially it was like a like listen to his literal directions and just kept running west along with the children in our theater. Kick out of that too. So that makes you feel. That's funny. Listen it was funny you would you? Would you stop being such a knows this not being such a nice guy? Yeah I get it understand. That's funny stuff. Stop it I am beside myself with laughter and okay so I hit the road. First UP ON THE ROAD TOM GOES TO GAS STATIONS US payphone to get snacks and meanwhile sonic sneaks off to a neighbouring biker bar and then he starts having a good time. Tom Finds them and sonic start making a buck list of things he wants to do before he leaves air so they get into a bar fight a giant bar fight and this includes a moment like quicksilver in this X. Men Movies where sonic just girls around the bar and does hilarious stuff to everybody in there? Yeah the kid next to me absolutely loved the Selfie. Seen Cool what he sides up and hits us at like that. That kid didn't make much in terms of laughing or applauding but he had a belly laugh about that for the rest of that scene. Did you ask him to come on the PODCAST SPLEEN? What self are what's a Selfie? Missed Opportunity Mark. We could have gotten a key. Demographic there'll be sure but I WANNA try now. He's we passed over it. Real fast is I actually liked Adam. Police performance as the the the basically the COP. That didn't really know what he was doing. Deputy Yeah Yeah I did get a chuckle out of the When power goes out and he calls. Marsden won't do I relax and then and then call all these people. It was okay. What was the first thing? He told me to do. Relax and he just sits back and doesn't think reminds me of me because that's exactly what I would die. I'm not doing anything. So they can. To fight with a bunch of bikers eventually they amps cray after Sonic Kinda freezes time. Basically in kind of moves everybody around They they high tail it out of their good at a motel after the bar fight and Tom sees the last thing on sonics a bucket list as he's tucking inside the go to sleep all he really wants to make a real friend this is. Dan started crying because I can associated with that. I want a real friend. That's true. Yeah one day you'll get one of those. I hope so thirty three. I could use one right now. You you you when you get to. Nine hundred likes on that eighty one nineteen real friend. Keep talking that shit and I'm coming for you brew So on the road again. The next day robotic tracks them down and six drones on Tom's car destroys the truck entirely removing the hood of the entire the entire cab of the truck but Sonic Content. Tom Team UP TO DESTROY. Rob Robotics drone. It's basically one giant grown anytime to destroy a piece of it gets smaller and more basic until eventually. It's just a flying kind of paying little handheld like about the size of a golf ball drum and then I like that. They introduced the rolling. Hit something mechanic from the Games and has spent attack. Excited just had no idea what was going on. This was the first instance of the FOs. The also the slimming down of the enemy is kind of thing from the Games too. Yeah so it gets more and smaller. He F- losses at one point when he destroys it which was one of two losses eventually. the final drone blows up though and sonic gets knocked out so tom has to drive all the way to San Francisco and a truck with no tab as well as a knockout. Sonic eventually arrives at Mattie sister's house and as we mentioned Mattie sister hates Tom and shows up with cycle his arms tried to hide it but then the dog kind of pulled off the blankets and reveal the. Oh my God. We have a giant Alien Hedgehog Mattie works on Sonic but he just sort of eventually just sorta wakes up out of it. I don't really remember them doing anything SPECIAL SMELLING SALTS. The right that seek bounces around the room. That's right they should have just shot them with adrenaline. Like pulp fiction for the kid does it. Does it look like I have dead. Hedgehog storage on from long. Yeah because different parts of pulp fiction. What's fun could've meshed it? You've sandbagging me. Do Sandbags your entire. Podcast I'm not going to stand for it. Being up he wakes up and Matty's niece gives him his iconic red shoes and they tie up my sister and steeler car and they for some reason let sonic drive the car and to the TRANSAMERICA building and sneak onto the roof using some hijinks cooing Tom. Waving his his badge. Around as if that's going to get him anywhere in San Francisco but for some reason does and they're able to grab the rings off the roof just as robotic shows up with his drones so sonic kicks and Tom off the building and he's one of his rings is in the back the Green Hills and then we pick back up where he where the beginning started and we see Sonic and robotic fighting in San Francisco and then through the use of a bunch of rings sonic jumps through a bunch of different locales Paris capable of China etc eventually winds up back in Green Hills where robotic essentially has sonic on the ropes about to finish them off. When Tom and the other townspeople come to Sonics Aid? Sorta like Was Spiderman is. That was that one every single movie Roman. You must have all of us. That's true that's but they said that's our sheriff in our. We're Blue Alien Guy Roy for the mall other for Spiderman. That's amazing spider. Man That C Thomas Howell with all the Afterwards that's the word one. Don't tell that to the people on twitter. For some reason they love them some amazing Spiderman. Yeah people got rose colored glasses or a lot of shitty comic book movies. Do THEY DO So sonic then eventually goes electric again manages kick robotic through a portal into the mushroom planet. And that's the end of robotic he gets sent there and the portal closes and then they celebrate sonic. I think this is where sonic does he floss again. Believe later. Oh is it when they reveal his new his attic apartment. All that's right that's right. Yeah Dallas the most realistic moment of showing that he's like a teenager sorta because as I said I have I leases around the no eight thirteen and they will just randomly break into some dance just while standing there and you're talking to them more. You know your your cooking dinner something you just turn around. They'll just be dancing for no reason So him just breaking out that flaws because he got the The new crib Was like Oh. Yeah that I've seen a million times that's absolutely with somebody in this generation would do. The weight of the world has been crushed them yet. That's why they can dance whenever they want more. That's true yeah So he sort of gets adopted by Tom and Mattie and he decided they they decide to stay in green they move all sonic stuff into the attic and then the government shows up and gives them a an olive garden gift card to stay silent about the whole affair and the final closing of that joke. That's been throughout the movie. Yeah that's the that's the important joke got like. Oh we nailed it. Yeah and we skipped over. Tom had mentioned was that while they were painting. The house There was a slow piano version of the sonic the Hedgehog Song. I missed an opening credits. Yeah yeah real soft piano. Sorta ray if you weren't if you weren't lists like if you didn't know what the sonic music was. You've never noticed guide. You would've missed and Jenny. Got Up in my clapped when they played it. It was kind of embarrassed. 'cause all the other kids really did you sit down man crooning the movie. Bam insured by waited thirty years for this okay. I had to kind of cover my face a little bit but listen. She enjoyed it. That's all that matters yet. She's suddenly she ruined your Valentine's Day wouldn't be the first time God. That's that's it for Gen on this podcast selective in my life I think signing off forever and then we get an end. Credit scene includes tales coming to Earth. Find Sonic and then we get a robot. Nick Shaven his head on the Mushroom Planet. And just being like. I'm going to be home box Christmas yet turning turning into the robotic that everybody knows and the bigger picture moustache moustache and that's that sonic the Hedgehog I honestly think people in my theatre There was more of a reaction from people. Sitting around me from the adults entail showed up then. The kids was funny because the king where we saw. I think we were expecting it. Yeah you're either expecting tails or knuckles right. Yeah Yeah Yeah. I was saying plot wise if they were going. When I saw that there was a scene I was like. It's going to one of two people. They're either going to have tails. Come out. Which is the obvious choice if you're going to do a sequel which they're obviously going to do a sequel with how much money dismayed Or you're going to bring out someone like Amy rose have female has hug. You know for the You know I feel like nobody knows who amy rose is now do is that the chickey makes out with like the real human check. No that was I don't know if that's cannon anymore kissy human lady scattered. I've heard about governor amy. Roses a pink Hedgehog Take Pink Hedgehog does attic apartment and yeah. She's from Sonic CD. She's going to ask James Marston. And Tika Sumpter to just give him twenty minutes. Just don't don't cramp style please. If I have a ring on the outside of the door that means I'm busy and she's infatuated with with sonic Then she could bend the rules of time and space or something crazy like that right Yeah she has like a gigantic hammer or was there was a good death battle with her and What what's the what's the girl's name from? Scott Pilgrim NO FIONA FIONA Ramona. That's what it was remote from. They fought they fought each other. Because Ramona has a person has a she has a bag holding essentially. Yeah and then the same thing with the. What's The lady hedgehogs name? Ab Rose Eurozone she. Yeah she's able to bend continuity something. You're lines yeah. Her thing in the video games can triple jump. Who Like most women? I don't know if you know they're exactly yeah. It was like literally they ran out of powers I was like Oh this is like the fifth character. We've introduced God. She can jump real high. Yes was right. Can't a princess peach jump very high or she could glide or something. Yes yeah all. The girls get weird jumping powers. Yes kinda Kinda sexist. If he asked me I don't I don't agree with it guys. Luigia IS JUMPING HOURS TOO. So cares about the. Ouija it just kind of whatever known really cares. I guess I'd still love somebody's theory. That while the we we ju- just the same person. It's just a fight club situation that interesting so I was thinking about doing this. Pa- jen doesn't like the idea because it would mean she would have to do it. What if I 'cause played as robotic at the end? That COULD BE PRETTY COOL. It but who would she be? Amy Roz obviously Tika sumpter. A fix matty James Marsden. She could be James Morrison Gender Bench. James Mars just turned Dan on full yard. Went to sick from six to midnight. Scandal went from midnight to six women. Can't do I don't know if you know the female physiology nope but you're incapable of getting that way midnight. Yeah I don't either unless there's something I don't know anyway so the end of this movie What did you think of? It was a good ending? There was some pretty cool shots in this movie. I thought when when sonic goes super saying and you you have the Robotic ship in the background coming out of the the The rain and it's all black and red. It looked cool to me. There's a couple of cool shots but someone in this movie so masters of the universe before I think everybody saw it. It's a right of passage that movies too. Good I did you know I. It's a kids movie. I liked it as a kid movie as a regular movie I would not have enjoyed it but you go in thinking it is what it is and I think it was a good video game. Movie overall our mortal combat more but. I think it's probably my favorite video game movie I've ever seen up there. Aren't there aren't a whole lot of options? Honestly but JEN JEN's a big Mario Brothers Fan. The original Mario brothers she loves that star. There's only one. She likes their name. Mario Mario and Luigi Mario Reme- well. I just figured you were. I not very taboo to talk about Mario brothers and I just you know I figured it needs to be out there. You're weird. You're the one who looks Mario Brothers. I guess that's your Your Bay Mario who played Who Played Mario Hoskins? That's my day and and Dennis Lota whatever such a movie. So bad yeah. I agree with Tom. I haven't seen detective pitcher yet to see that but from everyone that express. You haven't seen that you are all about it you rely. I'm going first week. I kept trying to set up a time this disco Take my nieces. And they had all sports all weekend when I could do. And then it just went out of theaters in you know This was the only movie sonic I was like when I saw that terrible I charm obscene it opening weekend absolutely you know I was the opposite. I said as soon as soon as they said. Oh we're going to change the way it looks like okay. I'll go see it as soon as I can. I was. I was the only time I've ever been mad about missing out on a movie opening weekend that I was GonNa Jokingly go see was what I found out that they patched cats after the first week God damn it could spoil the terrible missing special effects thing and been part of that. You know situation. How much do they really change about that? Honestly some of the cats at human hands I think Dame Judi dench had like senior splotch fan. Yeah I had to make a special arrangement with JEN. Sees movie opening weekend? I had to agree to be on the game. Volt podcast to do it so she did not want to see moving at all. Yeah she as you can tell. It's it was very difficult to get her. Go see this man. We're doing this because you guys this. We're doing this because you guys have a video game. Podcast agenda covered erects. I mean that movie is not going anywhere. It's still there. Yeah the Yeah this This movie I I don't know it's one of those things. Where with the release date? I don't know if they had like a list of dates and some person in marketing went. Yeah let's do the joke date of Valentine's Day you know you're just like they need four months to do to extend everything this was very much like they would have put it out in the mid to late March. Just get it and Q. On I I just think I feel like if they did that now. Let's do Valentine's they would've done like a dead pool. Esq marketing campaign. So that's the joke calling calling attention to the joke. Is THE JOKE THEM. Just being like all right we'll for the fourteenth of February is coming out with. That's not a joke. We'll stay. Listen to this podcast. They probably would have done that. It probably is probably more to do with President's Day weekend. Yeah Yeah you get the four day box sense. Yeah what do you guys do to make this better? Jan? What would you have done? We were talking about it earlier. maybe I feel like the whole James Martin was a terrorist and all of sudden. Just kidding everything's fine like I feel like for kids movie. Obviously they're not gonNA button up everything like that but maybe if they could have showed showed how they undid that a little bit. I don't know that was something that just goes on. Trial Scoop pointed a terrorist need or even lake when the government shows up. And they're like hey just letting you know we've pulled some strings and I don't even know that was just like stood out like a sore thumb to me Other than that maybe just thrown in a couple more Easter eggs. You guys were pointing out a lot more than what I noticed so maybe it just because I know nothing about sonic but I don't know I feel like I wouldn't really ask for much to change because it was a good kids movie you know. Yeah Tom What about you? Trying to think like like Jensen. There actually are a lot more Easter eggs in that than I even talked about. I think he actually eats Chili dog at some point. Yeah right yeah yeah marks. Is it considering? It's a kids movie. You don't really have to Repti- everything like that but I feel like the government people. Finding the robotic is like a crazy person that could have added something like that in 'cause they kinda just because just show like they don't they don't realize he's a bad guy. I don't know it's pretty obvious that he is. I know but it's just like why would government call on this guy? He's a has a song in his is van. Or whatever that said evil playlist or whatever it's The the breaker it says Evil Lab on. Ya Yeah the. Us government isn't privy to a lot of things they make mistakes. Yeah but I feel like they didn't overdo sonic as much as as dumb as it sounds. Because you could very easily overdue a character when it's based around them But they didn't like go over the edge with sonic. They didn't make him. I feel like once also once they changed the way he looked before hand before the movie came out it. Probably ease the lot that that. That Attention to people weren't looking for that. That's true anything else now. I Yeah I don't I wouldn't change a whole lot just just a little little more story of why robotic is bad instead of just he's bad Yeah yeah there's not there's not much I would have Changed Either Short of their parts in the story. I being an adult. I would want to dive into a little bit more on. We've mentioned most of them I would like to see neal. Mcdonald's character a little bit more As like some type of FOIL TO ROBOT. Nick not not in terms of a like every so often you know they try and do something and robotic stops the more you know cuts off like. Sorta more thing between them one side While they're in Green Hills would have been nice just and because I think it was completely under used to having him in this movie Yeah there's not even really any casting stuff I think. Ben Schwartz was fine I think they had to. I think he did a good job and they did a good job. Actually giving sonic more of a backstory in terms of his personality. That I've seen in any of the other media I've seen of sonic where they just show. How lonely he is You know because he's got to stay in hiding so he makes up these fake friendships and gives them nicknames in watches movies with them. You know you know go goes in does all the stuff. But he's not you know completely gung Ho sums up. Sonic like he knows when the baseball playoffs are and you know. He's like a part of the town but nobody knows about it and they sorta I thought they played into that more than I thought they would. especially being a kids movie You know in that sense That was good at that would have been. You know something I would have explored if they didn't maybe show another sign of You know anything else from a little bit more sonic lower. You know maybe maybe have I don't even know what to do. maybe when he no no no no meaning of my sentence with the Baby when he gets to read choosy runs faster. That could have been something but Yeah they'd have to do much really perfect kids movie. I think they're going to completely overdo it in the sequel but also say it like it's going to have knuckles in. It's going to have tails and you know it's GonNa be way overdone because false and go. He's going to do the With the other dance called the bring back the dougie. They're gonNA they're just gonNa keep going backwards. That's yeah was it the Milly Walker something like that You're asking the wrong. You know there was a there was a there was another Charleston a monkey. That's it that's what it was the charts. He's going to do the Charleston on top of the Empire State Building Booking. I wouldn't do anything to make this better. This movie is not for me. So I'M GONNA I'M GONNA bother. It's fine some people probably love it not for me I guess. I don't say what I want to say. So you say whatever you want it myself I guess okay so good. One amid eight eighty seven by the way he warned you get a real friend so close I the only thing I'd change is sonic steals James Marston. Wife and Parsons like cool with it. Listen I I can't say I'm on board with this. Goddamn do I respect you? I mean street trigger. Well Read Sonic. It is twenty twenty We can have open relationships. Yeah that'd be interesting. If we turned the Apollo relationship in this movie we can. We can definitely be a throw people but but then size just goes no dude. This is like a AV conversation. So see your way out of it. He just kind of like slowly phases. Marsden out of the whole relationship at the end of the movie. And he's he just. He sends him on a one way ticket to somewhere. I don't know some crazy location with one of the rings weightless amendment. We should go on vacation together. And he dislike throws the ring. Like oh I just gotta get something. I'll be right back and he just shoves him into the ring. Doctor strange style discharges right like the Arctic and the last scene is just Marcin screaming saw and then Marsden turns into robotic. That'd be great. If if if Marsden robotic the whole time but they were friends and an apology relationship with their wife and then sonic phases. Marsden out of the three people lockney becomes the robot. Nick we we know and love. I think we did it again. I is we do this every week. Of course like this this movie like the sequel would be probably a robotic versus sonic but the first movie would obviously have to have very hardcore sex scenes. Yeah yeah it would be. You know very out. He goes out stops. Crime back to the Attic for Penetration Crime Penetration Crime Penetration and this goes on. For Ninety minutes cured the sixties are really drawn out like body of evidence and the Sun at Sonic. Never got the redesigned. So he's got those human teeth and now he looks for some reason. You draw you just. You stepped over the line. They're just bearing as orgasms an Schwartz voice. Terrible just terrible. That's that's the Gen is cringing right. Now I'm regretting so many of my choices today just now actually being on the podcast seeing the movie marrying Dan ever meaning any of us. It's a Cornucopia of regret. You're sure you want him on our podcast. Right Nice Guy. Why why would we want a nice guy gets very? 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Olympic Bonus: Shredding Skateboardings Glass Ceiling

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37:55 min | 3 months ago

Olympic Bonus: Shredding Skateboardings Glass Ceiling

"Hey dr listeners. We are officially between seasons right now but we have a little bonus for you last summer. We reported a story about skateboarding one of my favorites actually and this summer for the first time ever. Skateboarding is an olympic sport. So we wanted to play that skateboarding story for you now because speaking for myself. I think it's always more exciting to watch a competition when you know the story behind dead and this is a good story but before we play that episode i wanted to get a little olympic preview from one of the experts about what we can expect to see at the games and she told me. I don't know what i really know what's going to happen. you know. it's it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out jane. Rogers is a curator at the smithsonian's national museum of american history and i kind of specialize in action extreme sports snowboarding skateboarding surfing. That kind of thing so okay. This summer skateboarding will be broadcast as an olympic sport for the first time ever. Yes why is this a big deal. It's a big deal because you know the olympics validates kind of validates sports so you know if this is going to be a competitive sport being in the olympics is where you want to be but not everyone is happy about skateboarding. Joining the olympics. And jane says that has to do with how the sport began. I mean people used to skateboard to get away from the from the organized. Sports from the coaches from the parents yelling in the stands you know when skateboarding gained popularity in the nineteen seventies. it was counterculture. You didn't need teams are. Uniforms are anyone's approval. You just need a board and you can head to the skate park or just a parking lot and nali or grind some gnarly rails could do it anywhere and you know. It didn't cost that much and you got away from your parents and things so skateboarding got a reputation for drawing loners and rebels the kids. Who weren't interested in organized sports so it seems like historically skateboarding as a sport is sort of more about freedom of expression and community than about competition right direct but over time skateboarding grown and matured. Older skaters have become ambassadors for the sport they're more opportunities to compete and more sponsorship money in play it's becoming a professional competitive sport and the olympics is sort of imposing structure on something that has typically been on structured. Yes correct so. The olympics has provoked this conversation. The skating community about his skateboarding. Lifestyle or sport which one is it. It's a big. It's a big thing in that community. One thing is certain more people will be watching skateboarding this summer than ever before the olympics will raise the international profile of skating but also skaters both men and women. In jane's has. This is a big deal because even the women have always been involved in the sport. They have not gotten the recognition. And i think you know in a male dominated sport where it's mostly geared towards young males. It's hard to be a female amongst all that and I think the x. games pay equity boycott. I think it was kind of almost like a line in the sand. The story of that line in the sand and the women who drew it is the story we have for you right now and i'm particularly excited to share it because one of those women is none other than the. Us women's olympic team coach in tokyo right. Now let's have a listen. This is side door. A podcast from this sonian with support for npr ex. I'm lizzy peabody. Mimi nuke moved a lot as a kid wherever she landed. She found a group of friends who all shared at least one thing. They loved skateboarding and in the nineteen eighties. Then mimi hung out with a lot of boys. I didn't have any other girlfriends at skated See i just had my friends that were boys. Were who escaped with from that time all the way until my early twenties i would say after college me. Move to the virgin islands to work as a bartender as one does and one day as she cleaned glasses and wiped down the barshop something on tv. Cauterize band glanced up and saw women's skateboarding contests on tv. Which you didn't really see skateboarding in general on tv back then so that was a big deal to begin with and then i realized there were women and i'm like wait a second. I'm like shoot. I missed the boat. Like i should've. I should've tried that. I didn't know you could do that. I i never saw really any other girls or women either in any of the magazines or video. So i've never clicked for me that that was an option. You felt like your. You'd already missed your opportunity. Yeah i mean. I was like twenty two years old so i was like. Oh well you know. I believe it over the hill over the hell to get into that ten years ago but yeah it just kind of planted the seed. That was out there. But i had no idea that i could do that. When mixing margaritas got old. Mimi moved to san diego which is a bit of skateboarding. Mecca hanging around san diego's skate parks. Newt found a new crew. But this time something was different. There were girls there. And one of them was a skateboarder. Named cara. Beth burnside and for those of us who weren't women's keyboarding buffs the early two thousands bumping into cara beth burnside escape park is a bit like practicing free throws at your local rec center and meeting michael jordan and one thing led to another and she's like you should under these contests with us which is kind of like. Mj asking you. If you want to join the chicago bulls. The only answer is heck. Yes and that's how new came to enter her first skateboarding competition. The first she had to learn one important thing called dropping in dropping and as one of the first things you learn as a skater. If you're skating ramps are transition because it's just a way for you to begin your run. Here's how it works. You climb up to a platform at one end of a tall u-shaped ramp. So you walk up and you put your board on the side of the ramp with your back foot. You pin the board on the edge of the ramp so it sticks out like a diving board and then with your other foot you step onto the front of the skateboard and lean your weight forward and then you fall until the ramp catches the board wheels under you. You definitely have to commit. And a lot of people will have commit. So then they slip back landing on their back or their but a lot of people over commit and they slam forward leaning on their face. That's one of the scariest things i would say. Once you figure out how to get over that then you can kind of do anything. So having just learned to drop in new p- enters the same competition. She saw two years earlier on tv. Which is pretty crazy. I was horrified for me. It was survival mode of. Just go and like participate and get out of there. I definitely got last place like those. No question in my mind excited to be there. The actually didn't finish in last place. She came in fifth place out of seven skateboarders and she got paid one hundred dollars. And i've never been more excited about a check before i just like. Wow this is money that came to me for riding my skateboard. Like how cool is that now. Technically meany was a professional skateboarder and she was just getting started. So this time on side door we tell the story of. How many new alongside her friend cara beth. 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Sports will never be the same. These are the extreme game. Kickoff your boat shoes because it's time for the extreme games but you probably know them as the x. games this series of radical sporting events happened in cities from rhode island. To main tim reid is from newport and he remembers the energy. These games brought to the region. Windsurfing was at one location and wake boarding was at another. They had mountain. Biking up in new hampshire vermont. I can't remember which one so it was like a lot of satellite venues but then read knows a thing or two about the x. games because today he's the vice president of the x. Games other sports from the first games included street lose rollerblading and something called skysurfing. Great rapper sean. Finishing with the rogaine all started with the incredible invisible man. Then i think that was the whole concede early on was there's all these disparate adventure extreme sports that are out there. Let's try to bring them all together. Create the olympics of action sports or extreme sports. And kinda see where it goes since the x. games were so new in its first. Few years organizers kind of just figured it out as they went. Here's christy pock the guy in charge of the x. games back then those first couple of years in rhode island we were all just innocent and we were just trying to figure it all out starter. Brand and the athletes who competed in those sports were a very gifted and they were really just waiting for a platform. Games turned out to be the perfect platform by the late. Nineteen ninety s the teams had largely congealed into the games. We know today. Espn relentlessly promoted. Its biggest stars and a handful of males skateboarders like tony hawk became global. I donio migos generated a ton of money for the x. games and the athletes they showcased but while the men cashed in the women. Didn't i asked betsy gordon about this. She's a skateboard curator at the national museum of the american indian and unofficial smithsonian skateboarding historian. And she said to understand why this might be. You have to take a look back to how skateboarding evolved after all. It's a pretty new sport. It's really interesting to me. Because the first commercially available skateboards were in the sixties. And if you look at those advertisements in magazines they always show girls and boys skating and in the seventies skating started growing up and they started having skateboard competition. Lots of girls skated. This is right around the time. Cara beth burnside started skating. You might remember her as the michael jordan of women skateboarding. When she was a kid. There were contests for girls but after a couple of years they got cancelled. And the only thing that was out there for me was escape with the amateur boys so that met like you know the one like tony hawk did without contests not many girls built reputations star. Skaters so skate. Magazines didn't pay much attention in the eighties with the dawn of more mass skate media magazine. Somehow girls just work getting in there getting the coverage for the most part the only woman. You'd see skateboarding magazines. Well they sure weren't skateboarders well in terms of advertising they were showing models and models. Didn't have a lot of close on for the most part. It was very highly centralized. So i think it was very hard for women who skated to see themselves reflected in media but also to see themselves where other skaters skated and since female skaters weren't shown in movies and magazines sponsors. Didn't support them and since they didn't get sponsor money. It was hard to make a living for. I wanted to be a pro skateboarder. But even if i'm on a team and the company likes me if the dude that skater complaining 'cause they have a girl on the team and they're giving product but oh shoot if we start paying you. Those guys are gonna be bombed and complaining you know. Yeah even if a company wanted to sponsor a female border they might get pushback from male skateboarders so in the early nineteen nineties burnside was one of the few pro female skateboarders who had a corporate sponsor vans one of the biggest names in skateboarding apparel sponsored. Her to the tune of fifty dollars a month. So i started entering contests pro and skating with the guys but it didn't matter like i couldn't ever be good enough like i thought i had like really good tricks and i did. But it's like your girls and that's just the way it is. It was so hard making a living in skateboarding as a woman that burnside had to go pro in a second sport to support herself. The i started working. Because i couldn't do what i wanted to do and skateboarding. You know it was really hard. I lived near tahoe. And i went and the girls contest and i was like holy their winning that much money. I'm like i got to get good at this. So she did and she became one of the best in the one thousand nine hundred eight winter. X games burnside. I had finished first in half. Pipe is the best women i in the world. And the right. You see it included in the sal value for that gold medal. The x. games awarded her ten thousand dollars and then my sponsor like doubled it. So that's twenty heath. it was just like okay well. i'm winning big money snowboarding. I still wanted to. But i had to out a way to make money. Burnside was also a member of the first ever. Us olympic snowboarding team. And just think about that most people if they need extra money they become a bartender. A tutor a waiter or they leave their own potholders. You know a typical part. Time job but burnside. She went pro in a second sport. That's amazing then. In the late nineties vans made cara. Beth burnside shoe. It was just the second shoe to be named after a female athlete in any sport. Meanwhile mimi new p- burnside's pal. Who left back in. San diego wondered if it was possible for any female skater. Who wasn't kara. Beth burnside to make a career in skateboarding. It became pretty clear pretty quick that there is a glass ceiling. There and i was seeing people that i looked up to that. We're the best in the world like not bring home very much money and but she kept grinding. Mimi knew her eventless called the vert named after the ramps tall vertical walls and at the beginning of her competitive career meaning mostly finished in fourth or fifth but over time. Sheet occasionally cracked the podium. Until after a while she started to win big sal- nukes says the contests made her better. I would more or less get ideas at the end of a contest and then it was like fuel for me to work on certain things. I never saw it. She climbed the women. skateboarding ranks. One trick that. Mimi perfected with something called a frontside. Invert honestly. I've watched a bunch of skateboarding videos in the last few weeks in. This one is by far the easiest to explain. So you're right up the ramp and you pivot on your front hand on top of the ramp and then the board goes over your head and then you aim for where you're planted hand is and you push off the wall and then land where you're planted hand is see you plant your hand on the wall you and your skateboard swivel around and then land where your hand is planted exactly so it almost picturing like a one handed cartwheel but sideways kind of like that. Yeah and it's it's a little blind on their re entry. That's a little scary. You don't really know it's it's kind of like you just have to commit and hope it works out now the first couple of times. I'm seeing a theme here. Commit and hope it works out is also kind of how many approached her skateboarding career and it did work out in two thousand three. She was invited to the first x. Games that featured women skateboarding as a medal event. It was in downtown los angeles. I was like whoa. This is what i used to watch on tv. You know in high school or whatever. And i was ecstatic to go and just participate. The x. games were held in the staple center. It's a huge multipurpose arena shared by kobe bryant and his. La lakers the nba's clippers and hockey's kings here's x. Games vp. Tim reid again. Hundred thousand people coming out to event. It's a big gathering music events downtown. La so at that point. I mean again. It felt like the event had definitely arrived in. You know everyone is aware of it and it was great and those early years and it was. It felt validating like at felt like okay like you know people were backing are skating because we're on this big stage so at that first x. Games was the largest audience. You hit ever skated in front of honestly. At that time. I think no i remember the stands being pretty empty our contests and those years were like held before the doors. Were open a lot of times. So like there wouldn't even be people in the stands like maybe your mom and dad or friends that you invited but like yeah the public. They'd be like doors open at noon. And then they'd have a conduct like ten or eleven in the morning or like directly after the doors open to no one's really in there. Why did they schedule you before the doors open. That's a question you should ask. Espn and those guys. I have no idea. I don't really know the specifics with what mimi was talking about. But we we tended to have the everything open all the time. Boss chris stock or ours would be like you know eleven. Am to eight pm and with skateboarding you know. One of the disciplines was ver- ramp. And so there's only so many competitions we can put on vert ramps during the course of the day. You wanna put the competitions that you feel have the best opportunity to rate with an audience and you know when you've got tony hawk on a vert ramp that meets been. Skateboarding is going to get a good time slot. And not only were. The female skaters relegated to a bad time slot. They weren't put on tv at all. So mimi's family couldn't really share the moment with her at the time we kept being promised like tv coverage like you guys are going to be on tv this time and then it would never happen. You know my families from the east coast then getting an invite the week before made it really tough for them to be able to come and support and be a part of it too so we just felt overlooked. A lot were saying again. These are the world's best female skateboarders at the world's biggest skateboarding event but they felt the x. Games didn't respect them as professionals because they were women in two thousand three and two thousand four and two thousand five didn't look much better and two thousand and five. Men's first place was fifty grand and women's was two grand. Wow wow that's fifty five zero thousand dollars for the men. Yes fifty five zero grand. Yeah for context. The last place male skater earned two thousand dollars which is the same amount as the first place female skater. Mimi remembers this really frustrating story from one of her first x. Games there was a male skateboard who attended the x. games but didn't compete just sat there and smoke cigarettes so like he ended up getting two grand for doing nothing and that's that's where it really became polarizing for us. And we're like do. This is not cool. You know not cool. So heading into the two thousand five x. Games new ben burnside made a plan to grab the attention of st park and the x. games organizers so they might finally get the equal treatment. They deserved coming up after a quick break. How would you describe a world. You've never seen in blind guy. Travels a new podcast presented by radio tovia old host. Matthew schifrin invites you to find out. Join this multi sensory tour of the majestic and the mundane parts of life without site navigating dating apps watching movies collaborating with lego to make it more accessible and preparing for college graduation and life afterward. Listen today by searching for blind guy travels wherever you listen to podcasts. Love learning new things on side door. Here's something you might not know. The smithsonian relies on support from people like you to make all of the research discoveries and exhibitions. You hear about possible. Smithsonian experts are addressing critical issues in the field of science history art and culture issues that affect us all and you can be a part of it a lot of people. Listen decide door. Imagine what we could learn next if everyone chipped in just a little find out how at sl that edu slash contribute so it's spring two thousand five and the world's best female skateboarders are fed up with the x. games there gripes were numerous and they were legit if care about burnside. Was martin luther. Here's the list she'd be nailing to espn's door number one earlier notice on x. Games invitations number two some any time on television three most of all prize money. That was more than four percent. The size of men's prizes four percent. Things were unfair but one fateful day. Meany got a call from her mom. My mom went back to college where she went to college in her fifties and andrew came in he was one of the guest speakers. She's talking about drew murs. He's a big time sports agent in a way. He's like the cara. Beth burnside of his field for period of ten years. I represent every single winner of the new york city marathon and the boston marathon so drew gave a presentation to meet moms class and afterwards she went up to him and said hey. Can you help my daughter. She's trying to be a professional skateboarder. And so that's how i met drew rich. The meeting was about how mimi could make money and he from the get go was like who else is involved. How's your sports structured. He was just fascinated by how things worked and drew didn't know much about skateboarding but he knew the business of sports so he understood means problem as an athlete who was being undervalued. The man at the x. Games were making fifty thousand dollars first prize and the women were getting a thousand or most two thousand dollars. That seemed like it was back in my You know like in the nineteen seventies. so that's how it all starter. Drew was in so new and burnside and the other female skateboarders headed into the two thousand five x. games irritated but this time they had a plan on the evening of august third. The skaters were hanging in their hotel room. Talking things over the first women's skateboarding event was scheduled to start the next day and they decided not to show up. We actually didn't call it a boycott. We just decided not to show up. And so what we did as i said. Just don't show up and of course the phone started ringing. I was getting calls like crazy. 'cause they were saying marines. We know you. What do you want you want money. you want. We don't want any. There are some pretty crazy voicemails left on care about phone that morning. Get down here. You guys are done kind of thing. I just want to sit down with you. After this event it talk about how we can bring the girls towards equal pay better situation different events. Whatever we to it wasn't like we were like pay us right now like we wanna meeting. We want to have a voice in our own events. Like there's some serious gaps here and we want to be involved and the exasperated x. Games organizers said. Let's do it like if you guys can get the girls to show up. We'll give you a meeting. Yeah yeah okay. We'll do it. Just make sure the girls show up and they did so. The women street skaters showed up. They skated their event the very next day we had our our women's vert contests and we showed up skated the x. Games got their event as promised. And the skaters waited for their call from the organizers and then crickets crickets for almost a year after that for a good chunk of the year silence and then in june two thousand six with the next x. games just a few weeks away the organizers said let's talk for backup drew called around his sports agent circles and linked up with the head of the women's sports foundation and asked her to come along as well. So the day of the meeting arrives. Everyone gathers in the espn boardroom. In new york city and drew remember someone from the x. games explaining why women's skateboarding didn't look good on tv and she goes well. You know women when they go off the vert ramp. They only up two or three feet. They don't do the same kind of tricks as the boys. And and that's the reason that's why nobody watches. We asked steep about that and he said yeah sounds about right. I can definitely imagine somebody saying that. I heard that many times it could have been a producer you know responsible for shooting good television for a long time that was kind of the elephant in the room. The girls just hadn't gotten very good yet but by five and six day had to hear someone from the x. Games say basically well tricks aren't as good as the men's isn't exactly the answer drew's crew was looking for but then the ceo of the women's sports foundation asks or why do you think that is. And that's where i think that the collective espn male dominated x. Games stuff made a mistake. They said everybody knows that women don't want to try too hard to jump big things. They're afraid of getting hurt. What for what it's worth steep says he doesn't remember anyone saying that and he doesn't believe anyone from espn would have said that in a meeting. I don't think somebody would say that they're free to get hurt. That's just sheer ignorance. And if somebody had said that in a meeting setting with with outside people they would have gotten verbally reprimanded afterwards news either way for whatever reason after the meeting drew's phone rang. It was john. Skipper a senior executive at espn basically st pox boss who all of a sudden was very interested in the changes requested by mimi and care bath. He asked them for a meeting at the upcoming x. Games john skipper invited them to his luxury box at the staple center. Mimi remembers the meetings tone being friendly. You know he is a really nice guy. He was like look. I'm sorry we didn't come through on this promise. You guys like how. Can i help you. Basically and we asked for three things from him. We asked for an increase in prize money over a fierce span and then equal purses and we asked for increased media exposure television photographers. Basically they wanted equality and then the third thing we asked for it was. We want to organize their own events. Essentially the female skateboarding events felt like they were an afterthought to the x. games organizers so the skateboarders would do it themselves he said well what what do you guys want the purse to be this year. You know what's an amount. We can come up with the everyone will be stoked on. And he said ten grand for first or something and And so i wrote fifteen down on a piece of paper and she's like fifteen and so we have a job he he approved it and we have a joke now. Mike duty five grand. Like i got you five grand. That like because she wanted the next day burnside took home. Fifteen grand for winning at the two thousand six x. games not equality but it was a good first step. The prize money went up again. The following year and on october twenty seventh two thousand eight the x. games announced that men and women would earn equal prize money not just in skateboarding but in every sport after years of no pay low pay and being dismissed caribou burnside and mimi new earned equal pay for female skateboarders and today both are still working hard to make sport better in their own way. Cara beth burnside the two sports star. Who won eight x. Games medals over fourteen years coaches girls and boys in skateboarding and still gays herself in her free time. And as for mimi new well. She's now the coach of the first ever. Us women's olympic skateboarding team. The sport was set to make its debut at the twenty twenty summer olympics in tokyo but the games have been pushed back to the summer of two thousand twenty one revolving on an emotional rollercoaster. You know the schedule change the pandemic. Mostly i feel for skaters the ones that are ranked really high right now. The top of their game like now we have to wait another year and hope they keep that position but we're continuing to keep a culture of skateboarding solid and Yeah just trying to enhance their experience with this whole thing and together along with drummer. They created the action sports alliance to continue to empower and develop future generations of female skateboarders. And this massoni and zone. Betsy gordon says she's seen slow but steady growth in the skateboarding industry. It hasn't been until very very recently. That women have been getting sponsorships. Shoes boards grip tape wheels And you know it's shocking to me that it's taken that industry so long to kind of embrace young women and women's skating. It's taking time but today skateboarding has become a fairer place for women and even as the x. games did the right thing. Gordon says that there are still battles ahead for the next generation of female athletes but unlike when nuke and burnside were growing up this generation can see. It's been done before. And they know what's possible. That was the story. We originally aired in summer. Twenty twenty and now it's twenty twenty one and the moment is here. The olympics are upon us so back at the national museum of american history. I asked jane rogers. How might the olympics affect women's skateboarding in particular. I women's skateboarding is really kind of excelling right. Now there's a lot of women skateboarding. So i think it's only going to get bigger with the with the bigger audience. I think people are going to say. Hey i could do that. I mean if i can at fifty-five get on a skateboard and glide down the street and not kill myself you know. Obviously i'm not going to be in the olympics. But i mean if you're a twelve year old girl and you see these other young girls doing this sport like hey. Why can't i. i can go down to my local. You know skate shop and get skateboard and jump on a lot. More girls are gonna see women skateboarding very high level. Yes i think it'll have a big impact anything that you would encourage our audience to look for at the olympics. What are you most excited for. Almost excited for the women's competition. I think that's going to be really really heated there. Some amazing women skaters out there so he sure to watch them. I will yeah. You've been listening to an olympic bonus edition of side door a podcast from the smithsonian with support for npr x. If you wanna see some skateboards used by pioneering female skateboarders from the nineteen sixties and seventies there the national museum of american history in washington dc. And if you're not in town check out the photos on our website. Si dot edu slash side door you can also follow us on social media at side door. Pot big thanks to mimi new care. Beth burnside jane rogers tim. Reid grace coryell betsy gordon christie pock sarah axelsson and patty foco of the women's sports foundation an extra special thanks to drew earns. We have sad news to share that since the episode originally aired in two thousand twenty drew earns has died. It was an honor to be able to speak with him and hear him tell this story and we could not have done it without him. This show is produced by. Just neil james morrison natalie. Boyd in command caitlyn schaefer. Just saddik lyric koch sharon bryant and tammy o.'neil episode artwork is by greg. Fisk extra support comes from jason genevieve at pr x. 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"Album to her. I can't however you wanna walk most against another saturday edition of geek. Not park season two episode to. I'm your host. Mr william de morgan and i have the best host in a world with me right. Now i i will bring add. The old man has been with me for two years. M more than bring up my man shot so how you doing. I'm good sir. i'm good how are you doing. You can complain and next up. I am bringing in the man who lives in canada he fights the moose in on a daily basis. He is the heavyweight champion at aware of. Give it up from me. Gene gene wants now too much nothing too much. It is a great night to talk some peak. Let's do this as we always now. This is the fastest our in podcast in. Get it going all right. Let me roll over to the a chris. Thank you for being afraid. Think it being here. K. w. Thank you for being here cutie. See thank you for coming out. Man appreciate you are are. Let's go ahead and get into a first of all. How's everyone's week good good on on a which was good. It was good. I i just. I just want to say i know. We don't have very much in the way of the showcase lineup. I just wanna throw it out there if anybody is a fan and has disney plus to watch yourself somebody. Dutt's episode was bang air for a real. They brought back the original. Og mighty ducks. It was it was fun to see the district. Five guys get together with coach bombay. One more time lariat was great right all right. Let's go ahead and gift started with the show. Sean your in charge of the news in topic straying. Let's go ahead and guest. But i let do this. Roof weight is real quick. And see i gotta keep that on him now. Let's go ahead and get into the news. strangle win. Starting them buff worse. Yes sir is up a few days ago. Apparently we had international superhero day. So happy it's all you. Secondly i think yesterday i think it was. We are happy birthday for tom. Welling you know played car cans on smallville ends. We actually have a little news from him. And i'm michael rush. Can we pull up real quick me. One segment mcgill here. Ruma ago there is a move here. They said the tone whaling in much. Looser pitcher no increasing the tweet. We've gone on instagram live. My garage said himself and tom walley are trying to develop. An animated smallville continuation. Now on cool whether that's going to be season elevensies in twelve. 'cause we have eleven in comic book form renault. Either way we've seen the c- that'd be cool. Yeah what do you guys think. Just think as long as it doesn't get to ambiguous. When i mean is like usually when you try to go anime. They too far one way or too far the other. But i i hope i like to see this project i was. I think there's a lot of people still wanted to see tom. Welling actually in the super suit rich wary. We only guy that at one time. I think we wanna see little more him in that. So yeah that'd be great to see all right next up for netflix's apparently doing a feature of princess. Guardian sailor moon eternal. May we have a picture of that if can show that real quickly. I'm i'm sun kaunda. Yes so june third interested in that little minimum right there man feel about because the my only concern is it dove subbed or english. Well no i mean usually less you have some so he can choose one. We'll see all we also have a question. It's pretty good young. Yeah the moment right. Definitely good moments and no that's not. I don't think they're movies. Live action that salem move is animated right and yet you haven't made it. Yes yes there is some live action stuff. You wanna look for it. I mean the incident this no. I'm actually that the japan most definitely art. Next up dc fan will be returning but instead of taking the spot of san diego comecon. It would take an star of new york comecon on october sixteenth. Well let my birthday okay. 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Show i just want it done right for once as a good point to definitely governor is oh yeah oh yeah definitely definitely that is got guard. He's an asshole knocking stand by. Don't like him check in for so haven't ogm same is moving on moving on. Yeah all rights now. Next up from ma. Nate mccay on louis. A tough Actor from little rock alien covenant and marco polo is going to be a mystery role in the black album. Movie really just serve cats. I think that's going to be good. It's still this will black it's still are. We still get it like i know. I know it's up in the air. I just like to. I'd just like to start getting prisoners locked in right the also going to get a mental picture of what it could be so that can keep your suspense up. When dot says right next up we come on a picture of a promo pitcher for the new. cw series. Naomi input data. please yep. i'm not sure looks like apparently that's what's gonna happen. So okay complaining it wherever. 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This was funny because me being in in will sort of would come to see what i'm saying Being in the world of wrestling if you will the miss sort of didn't he was up for the role but he sort talked himself into a rural using twitter. And i think the funny thing about it is it would work. He is our modern day version. If you're today to look at character and you were to compare your the. Ms is our modern day johnny cage. Now we'll he did it. I don't know where there's so many different names being put up for that position and the rule is a very big pivotal as we can already tell is going to be a bit center in more combat too. So it's going to be somebody that's bringing that star power. I think the saw-power would be ryan reynolds. I think really fit him. He can bring he can bring holiday. Comedy can also bring the action to the to the to the road too so either way you win a Rather see rentals ryan reynolds. You can take other. Parts of the characteristics played into that. I mean you can have difficulty as hey johnny cage. I'm a big fan. he'd ride and stuff autographs. Hey you go and keep trucking so there are certain things that you could do with ryan that you couldn't do with the ms Som- campaign if but either way you get a helvin you get a guy who can portray the role very well going. So you're speaking of mortal kombat motel. Yes quesnel actor. Josh lawson says that on the hedgehog star john marston will be a great luke cage within my bet one cyclops as As yet to be completely honest. I cannot see him. Play johnny cage Just because here's the thing he's got the he's to baby face and i've not seen them do martial arts right honest to god. That's that's where it gets down to for me. Like yes. Johnny cage's he he's got this baby face. But you you look at johnny gage. Asian also see like he's a legit fighter. And you think of broadway a musical actor action hero. Exactly don't get me wrong. He's played superheroes but that doesn't mean you know he is fighting. Not the best. You got be able to do that. Like drought it'd be like drones. Sam wilson into the more combat university ads destroyed rating. He'd be the first one like that's just that's just being honest. I don't get me wrong. It gets down at the end of it at the end of the day who they who the studio picks run with. But where you have names right now where you do have James morrison you have the ms. You have rhyme rounds in this talk. You know it really at this point. It's dan the studio who they want. Virtual virtual anyway for lok the eleventh. I guess yes. I can't win either are not far off when you think about it. No that month. Wait most serious sir. All right next up some. That occurred to me today earlier. When i was watching on tv show when it comes to safi tv show that have like alien races and stuff. There's always a warrior race always like every single time so like bow on babylon five star. Trek stargate is always wear. Were you what do you think about that. I think it's because in this. I'm just throwing this out here. We end the writers of sci-fi have always written based around the cultures that are here on earth anyways plot and cultures or Or glasses or whatever. It's always always based off what we have So we always had warrior. People indians apaches whatnot throat history. So it's there you're gonna get it in droves in saifi Aliens you had the zeno morphs in the predators in you star track. You've had a clear on the board synthetics might throw it out. There without the card You had in star wars you've had the bounty hunters in the mandalorian. So yeah you're always going to get a warrior race. You know if you can be frank. But i think it gives diversity somewhere. Are you know the the all brawn no brains and then you have others. That have that balanced mix. I think it can. I think it can lead. done right. can lead into good subplots like we saw him. Voyager with to doc who you know yet the nato he had wore you raised but yet you know it you know. They had. They had culture. You wanted to learn about him. So i think it's our next up a little thoughts so we all know about the machete order of star trek right stores. You know eagle four or five then go to three manual Six here's a question. Do sequel movies fit anywhere in machete order like the maritally of the movies. Tell do those movies or any movies fits what do you think man. I want our say. No mito mita. I wanna fan in the sequel movies in established stuff. Don't get me wrong but overall okay okay. So are we talking. We're not taught in the prequels were taught in the newer. I can maybe the restraining order or any of them out of the order. I think at this point technically yes because the plots themselves are still a continuation of stories within the like four five and six. Were what we're going to always looked at it. As the originals many of the prequels and any of these ones the newer ones are continuation of story of the story of luke in land. Right we may not have the full. What did they do after. But at least we know noth- majority that you go okay. So luke luke went on to become you know doing the jed eye thing and tread traders own order. Laya was a part of it. She had her moment but she married hawn. They had kids aid kit in the product. So yeah you you had the put them in i. I think it's only right that they get there. They're just do. Don't get me wrong. The first one was it was. Oh kay helen lane the second one. The second one was a little bit better. I i thought that more structured to story was actually had its moments i think at the beginning ran a little slow but it was building the story to where by the end. You're right into it so you know i. It wasn't like in the sense i get. Why j.j. abrams. He was trying to does a little bit of nostalgia. Like when you watch new hope yearly it's okay to strike Empire strikes back and return the jet on. You're like god. The story. Great so i give them points for trying with the with the new ones that give you that installed factor but yeah you had to add it. Just the the for the underlying story things personally. I think you could last janai. Because that's kind like the end of luke's noisy so that kind of fits. I won't see what the other two. Yeah yeah yeah. I think i think the last the last one i go the last two because the last one gives you the definitive caps elation on luke story but the last one also leaves you and gives you the cavs latian of of the finals you get to see the ultimate thing that is about the skywalker line is ultimately they fall but they can come back and they're always always the chosen one. The always bring balance to the force. I still think there should have been the reincarnation of can Let's say that would have been a better out. i agree. I don't disagree But i'm not the one rating coming at you. I'm not i'm not. i'm not the one. I'm as the one with me right now. I change it. I i just think it would change us for the simple fact is by the just by the end case ray goes ultimately detach clean living in loops original home everything original heiser lightsaber and is a sentinel lightsaber. She's got a yellow lightsaber sentinel. Same as back. A vast la in the united republic if you played the knights of the republic callback so she hides her your saber. She's like the first at a that we've seen other than the the cartoon right being bringing natural yellow lights ever an actual sentinel class to the star wars universe. An edit that ends and i'm lake. Ben doesn't even bent. Bend even show up in the hologram like you know what i mean like. Did you become one with the forest. Like they're just he was own he did become a force goes at the end of of empire. No no yeah. That's a real quick Boy nate welcome me Okay live there has been like at is sort of brie with that like the ending of the each series like if if you look at their own series like four five and six the the original the ending was always the best part right up the entire story with the prequel. I like revenge. The set out of all of them. I could sit main. Ivory was it like three or four times The the first one like the phantom menace. I liked only do the fact that the brought in darth maul but like the central movie. I've watched very little clone wars. I've watched very very little i. I'll be honest good. I just got the cla coming months ago. Seen all of it especially the ending. I mean i'm i'm talking about it in movie form. Okay okay you know what i mean like. I'm not the show is out of the shows are yet. I'm talking like if we were just talking as in as as the three of them in a series the end of at the end of each and every single one from the new three that we finally got to the original the endings the ending movies are always. They give you that. That good. That good fight feel the big ending. The big crescendo But yeah that's our guys we're gonna take our last break and then we'll finish up for the night real quick before we do. That door was shut out to our friends at ripped apparel peril. Immortality dice games definitely chitlins guys off all your apparel and dies gaming needs so definitely shit. Those guys in we will be right back talk. league But our gas we are. We are back. I phone that you saw was the dc hope. Podcast era versus dish in the dc podcast. Has we do that right here. Every thursday ten pm eastern we break down all the news of the vis everything going down to verse. Take us out right here. Every thursday at two pm eastern time right here on a pinfall strange and then after that we had the double x. p. podcast those ladies over there came punisher keeps you cut open all the latest video game news events plus they have the special features over there nostalgia nook and punishes plant get. I can't give her poster too much because some of those pounds of good if some good some bad is fifty fifty you knew how are you need to update update. You need to get that new be added new ones. I gotta get new. I gotta do for new ancho guys so We'll get we'll definitely are the have that ready for you next next week for sure but settlers ladies out become all right before we do on wednesday nights eight. Pm in street different chitlins lays out our with us. We got my friends. I have mixed up. So are you guys know how to star trek movies. There's the odd number roll. The odd number movies suck. Oh yeah now. Here's the thing though watching the movies. Awhile ago. I came to the understanding that neither story being told through those new lease from the major motion picture to on on generations. That's a pretty interesting story. Altogether story of kurt. You know what the first movie of him literally stealing the cabinets chair and being little petty even though the do actually seat. Everybody's lives his mistake. And you know you have a second movie where he faces death for the first time no loss for the first time. Losing only was and all that. Then don't give it everything away to be captain one last time to save his friends. Save spock then for four be During whatever no doing one last time as abe federation yes last time then. on funds frontier. Where he's already been promoted to captain you know it's about him being betrayed by turner back on him. It's a stupid movie but it exists then unscarred country where he faces how you know the world. Everything's passing by. He's getting older. Changing the klingons are becoming friends. And you know it's the finally gets two generations. Where when everything when all hell breaks loose and the new captain of the new enterprise looks to zaman says. Would you like to take the cabinet share. He starts moments and says dull the captain's places on their break ridge. You have this story where he goes from one. Nothing more than being in that cabbage chair of the enterprise and the finally being able to let it go to let someone else be the captain. I think that's i think those odd number movies are worth watching for that story. What you guys think i would. I would agree with you. Because i sat there as a kid myself growing up and i watched everything star. Track ed and yeah. You know if you're if you're looking at it from an entertainment perspective you're going okay. But watch star trek. You go get the even number movies out and you'd watch him because that's more entertaining but if you want to. If you wanted to have those nights where you want to sit down and watch the entire. They actually break it down to what the stories about it is. It's truly about kirk. Finally finding that point where. I don't need to be in the enterprise i can leave it to somebody else. She's in good ends and i can. I can now become an admiral. Or i can help teach right to help. Beat the next generation moved to lansdown captains in install them rights into them the same values that i have and i think that's the reason why we look at captain kirk and picard as key roles in the franchise or star trek because a laid a such a great foundation. For what a captain supposed to be ad that they both have their little quirks and everything like that. That made him but they have you look at both of them. They have a moral compass that even at times like. Let's let's say none of us really agree with i. I know industry. We really don't all agree with the prime directive at certain times ran church kirk and petard definitely have moments where they had the prime directive in their face and they truly do go against it. Yeah there's some backlash but there's not enough where we go. Oh they should have been demoted or whatever the movies that you start feeling that but because it was seen as it was seen as doing a greater good yeah true true yet so i know those. Those movies are worth watching like. Yeah they're not the great. We've me if you're going to go in and think it's going to be like an action packed. Two hours dotted spat nelson respect that but it's again character development character building. It was more for building their character. So way to some of these movies were inbetween series raid. So yes sir yes all right nice up all right so next up dark. Lean duck. Yes batman or not but been ripple for not. Oh definitely a different batman. Definitely what hundred percent. Batman report says. It's not true interest. like on. exactly he was. He's he's he's the adam west that they Just believe me here in the nineties. You needed that. Little bit of parity. Yep you you lost the the adam west by this point. You had nineties version. Batman which was an awesome show. If you haven't seen it. I recommend anybody but at the same time when there is too much batman so if you want to offset yourself you wanna get your your weaned down. You want to go a little comedic throwing some dark gardiner and that wa- said because that's exactly what darken gun is duck ducats easy. The goofy adam. West version of batman for the serious harm was cool. Though i still theme song he had the baddest themes on all the dangerous point. Yeah love it. I'll tell you another show and it's a little bit off topic but Lunatics least. I missed that show. I miss it i miss. It was so good there. F- i think. A lot of parents got mad because it took away from what looney tunes weren't they got mad about it. And eventually that causes downfall alison doggone. Good show man miller little darker but still recall. Yes still some comedy in it. I mean it was. It was andrew moments but overall was great. Miss it man. We got anything else for tonight. No that's all. I got good sir. Right right Want to thank everybody for coming out tonight. Oh my goodness got. Plenty of government lug lug. I some likes people come soc meal. They everybody for being here k. W. nathan chris. All you guys for being here. I do appreciate it off. I know this is the point where we do the whole attitude yet. We do the whole plugs and everything. Just wanna let. Y'all know come out tomorrow. A new show for pinfall streams as dropping. It's a boat podcast. Me and bazzi gonna becoming on seven o'clock central and we are going to be discussing just different things that are going on in the world of professional wrestling but i can give you the two little tidbits barnaby talking about the big discussion points We have questions. Should kenny omega. Be the bill collector really in this day and age or should he be go back to more of a cleaner version and the other one is how will daniel bryan fit in with the nfl. T now that he's got his time off in smackdown they'll probably be a little bit time where he's gonna go home and rest and whatnot bill. Yeah but That's gonna discuss plus ross up. You talked about rebellion that the trump card that just happened. I know it's fresh in everybody's mind. I figured we go through that as well. And we're just you run through just different. Things within lovely wrote progresses As we do that little bit of discussion and get you out of your day. It's on a sunday. Seven o'clock central time. 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Ep. 15: Isaac Out! Featuring Hillary Isaac-Raczec

Punchline with Alex Calleja!

1:00:48 hr | 11 months ago

Ep. 15: Isaac Out! Featuring Hillary Isaac-Raczec

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Union frustrating is when you're a body builder or athlete. And then you get injured. las moi. But it won't be the same you know it's not your body takes time lick sobbing more a nickel for the finished product. And that's a lot of people see it better the truth it really takes time game. We re safe but when we're coaching we trust the process. Patients that guys ever to the water. Anyone wanna make us among men thallium cassini you going jim but what ca- owner one owner. What are you doing mama. That was the you going. Jim and jim go mom. Why don't you go modest anymore. More basically all winter wasn't almost zoom care justify mona. Don't because the guy go in and mobile went back on so again edge also by meijima. Go on my lab. Is jim nez buying. I'm buying though is i go. I know me this. Autumn bike and bill maher. Jim i may go out of our noble debatable. Agrees is a happen made. It moved marlon. But i must say madam refund especially so by gaining weight you talk to c-a-b-a the on three months lunka postponed associates. You stop gonna know now up to now. I still train to go to the longest who had lost two months. Say quarantine Beathard the states. We had a lockdown. had we had quarantine battle. It didn't really start until march so when quarantine happened. That was when i was like in denial sake. We'll just we'll go to the okay number About blinds though bazemore omega but those aired i forgot lines are open so now the sun is rising so the two months the two months that i didn't work out Buoyed by anti-human jim Jim thing order non governor. So that was when i felt really depressed i was like now. What am i gonna do like i. I don't wanna work out anywhere. Just want work out at the gym but my husband and i. We have our own garage. Jim set up a saving our we. Have we have everything we need. Benham olympic bag similar march april. That's still spring springtime. Summer here happens in june so go heat up their mcguirk out Getting excuses finally after months I don't like the way my body feels. I don't like how i feel in my own skin in my clothes. I didn't really gain a lot of weights go to it was mostly the inactivity. The lack of movement affected my mood. Swing the a lot so i went back into it. Finally they started opening gyms here again so molly has been go. See my husband dreams with me. I'm i'm like i'm his personal trainer. So we were able to go back. And i still maintain. I still lift my five five days a week. I work out six days a week better. Saturday is active recovery. Which means you're still moving. You're still doing. Soft pedaled functional Gin your in state. Washington state dama. Yep say would be on. John s young bellevue. Which is tacoma. yeah auto seattle. John st john and joe biden because in my speed speed leaving you make pitching make pitching loss of driving supercar. 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I'm not really working right now. I'm it's so funny. Never thought i would ever have this life. Too good started. Mike my career in public speaking twenty years. I'd have been new commercials twenty years a meat. I'm like wow. That's how old i am. That's all you are alex and there's hunting cap but he's doing that and go you know he was. I saying yeah so. I have had twenty years of just working and then i was a single mom for six years so it was really hard. I wanna work hard work. Hard work hard about latin opportunities in line in my industry food and say if i'm not earning really big item at least perfecting my craft. It's always about excuse me. It's always about perfecting your craft. It's about the malcolm. God will ten thousand hours before you can consider yourself an expert in your industry or your field. And so that's all i did was work. Work work I remember some friend gonna med that f. shah had be good. 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Asher is not a single mom bashar that people who are going and these have british shy about within its british data for those people who don't and muncie facebook and then those are okay so judging now on american american guy all right yeah automa- so in a boyfriend right and actually but it's not your ryan i. Do you know caucasian better or is just like it's not that at all. I know it's easy to think that pedal game. It's it's more of a value. Saying or i guess. Character personality Times culturally valued the bubble very shy in or may organic young filipino. Man now bringing defensive or whatever be defensive if you want but like a lot of filipino. Men that i dated. I find they have a hard time letting go of apron strings. You know that expression that mukta zillow's among amanula looks don't matter i know i don't like her. It can be easy monkey bye-bye so in the in japan i got Baselga at the parents had unable for everything and to me. That was such a turn off when not. 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International public speaking engagements. I still host events virtual. So not too much has changed. I'm really thankful now a Me to what. I spent twenty years perfecting Developing in my bravery was lord. Now that i'm in a new place. I'm in a new community. Like how do i still use the gift. And the talent in the skill that you've given me Before sending opportunities to do that satan internally here adhere in the years living here having to adjust adjusting to married life because mary life is not easy. But i mean when you know bogus akron. Before i could be ready to accept back our and contribute to the world again so a lot of it has been just so tremendous In fact i'm so proud of you. Alex message gaza On sunday i have to get up really early. Because i have a guesting on my friend. Alex's show is who's alex people oh my gosh so he was a comedian back home but before all that he used to always call a radio show any would have him guests and we would we. He was like an inside joke. 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Painless Parker and the Dental Circus

Ridiculous History

52:09 min | 4 months ago

Painless Parker and the Dental Circus

"Traveling from new york to dc. Join me travel. Journalists taneeka raymond for road trip. That will change your view of the suffolk commute from a hidden history when unlikely dispute search for about the journey in your podcast app. That's about the journey. Hi i'm brent morin the host of teach me something new. I love pinterest. Pinterest is where you find. Do the things you actually enjoy. I've been using this app for all kinds of things. I'm filling myself with ideas. Diy projects and recipes and home decor inspiration. I started one place. And i end up somewhere totally different. There are so many diverse creators on pinterest. So i also love going onto their profiles and finding things that they've penned in the topic. I need it from surprise yourself with you can get into on pinterest ridiculous histories of production of iheartradio Welcome back to the show ridiculous. Historians thank you as always so much for tuning in shoutout to our super producer. Casey peg shout out to our super producer. The one and only max williams. I'm ben i guess i should. I should come clean. I put off some dental work during the pandemic. And when i when. I came back to the dentist chair. Who was the trip man. Well i put on some weight during the pandemic is at the same thing. Now i know it's not But it's common right. People let things go during these quarantine times and dental work certainly is one of them. I think we've i don't remember what show is on that we've talked recently about. I'm no by the way Dental i know it was it was did stuff. I don't want you to know episode recently about the Kind of weird world of dentistry fraud which is kind of a thing and this sort of rolls into that. There's some dentistry fraud going on in today's story but also some weird historical kind of positive things that came from this fraud What are we talking about. We're talking about the life of a dude named painless parker. That was not his christian name. We'll get to that His name is edgar parker us what he was born in eighteen. Seventy two as but. Yeah this guy was basically what you might call a a circus dentist. What does that mean. Well we'll tell you yes circus dentist and it's a freeze. We can backed up this. This entire. this entire circus comes about because when parker opens his practice back in eighteen ninety two. It's not an immediate hit. He's businesses struggling a little bit and so he figures he has to do something else and he starts thinking outside of the box. That's what leads us to real life dental circus as we dive into the story. When appoint out we're getting a lot of this information from several sources smithsonian magazine in particular with the great title remember when teeth pooling was fun as well as mental floss and the santa cruz sentinel. That's right there's also new york times article was painless parker. Vaudeville joke or a real brooklyn. Dentist by michael pollack and a series of books written by peter m pointed an ardent g kristin who are dental historians Just wanted to knock that out here at the top but yeah it's true ben so this guy edgar parker. He studied dentistry. At what today is temple university. He was born in new brunswick canada in the town of tyne muth creek which is on the shores there of new brunswick canada edgar. Rudolph randolph parker. He's got a rudolph anna randolph. There just to just to be safe but his family was very religious and he was He entered into initially For school baptist seminary at saint martin's and he was he was actually expelled For what was referred to as unchristianlike behavior. He also spent some time as a sailor and apparently cursed like one while in seminary that that is that is my Conjecture there but i can only imagine what the sailor like behavior that led to him being expelled from seminary might have been anything really could have been asked folks neither right and right. Maybe i mean yeah there. There are a lot of things that would have sounded absolutely normal to us in twenty twenty one that may have been you know absolutely scandalous from to say during this time so he he is terrified of going back home to his folks insane. I got kicked us seminary instead he he becomes instead he discovers his hustle hustle. That'll have for the rest of his life. He becomes a door to door salesman and his boss directs him to never like never leave people alone until they buy something from him and his father eventually catches up with him. Eighteen eighty nine. He is not over the moon that his son has become a door to door salesmen rather than a preacher so he dragged him home kid. Seventeen years old runs away again goes to see catches dengue fever. He's dropped off in barbados diarrhea. One right that's that's like the dengue fever that you may be thinking of dysentery. Maybe what's i thought. Dengue fever had something to do with like Thinking give you a bleeding. Flu like symptoms and rashes. Okay okay so no not necessarily the diarrhea. Sorry thank you for setting me straight bandeaus. He's now stricken with this unfortunate illness while in the midst of trying to get his life back together. I imagine right. Yeah and the doctors who are taking care of him impression you know. He feels like they saved his life. He feels like this may be the most important vocation in the world and so when he gets back from another misadventure. He asked his parents. Hey can i. can i be a doctor. I think that's you know. I think that's my path forward in life. But what is what is folks do well They were not a family of particular means. They thought it was a little too pricy to go to medical school but They figured they could. You know spring for the next best thing which was sort of an emerging feel at the time the field of dentistry which he later According to a fabulous article in the santa cruz sentinel santa. Cruz also spent some time there. It's gonna come up in our story. Soon he referred to it as the noble tooth plumbing profession plumb the depths of of the the noble tooth So he enrolled at an initially new york college of dentistry. He again didn't have very much money. He had just enough to pay for tuition but didn't really have enough to eat so he kinda had to figure out a side hustle to to make ends meet and so he. I don't know if we've mentioned this but the school of traveling salesmanship that he ascribed to with sort of that. Like stick your foot in the door and don't take no for an answer situation so he essentially adapted that Mentality to a door to door dental practice before he'd even gotten his credentials which was very common at the time many of the dentists. That were practising. were unlicensed Because there really wasn't a whole lot of official oversight yet because it was a relatively new field and preventative. Dental care was really practically a non-existent thing so he ends up going to philadelphia dental college. Next this is prestigious. This is the second oldest school of its sort in the country. And you know as you said. No that's now known as the temple university maurice h corn berg school of dentistry. Santa cruz sentinel. Ask the dean of the college doctor amid is male. How parker was during his time there and he said parker was a terrible student and that he only graduated because he literally begged the dean at the time to pass him. Which i didn't know you could do yet. Seems like this is a very tenderhearted dean you know to be. I've never gotten out of any College failures by begging. I or or maybe. This guy's gift of oration was just so profound and works. He's been door to door who was almost a well. He was almost a preacher. So maybe just leverage those skills anyway fast forward. He's twenty years old. He graduates As i said eighteen nineteen ninety-two the same year. He opens his practice. He returns home and he thinks okay. I'm going to do things differently. I'm an innovator he's saying to himself what is he. What is he innovate. I know first of all. I want to point out. One thing that. I think is really fascinating about his time as a as a to door. Dentist i by the way. He also opened up his very first office before he even finished dental school properly. Like on seventeenth in broadway in new york but when he found a procedure that he didn't have the skills to perform he promised to come back later and the indication there was the you know once he got to that chapter in in the textbook that he was studying because again very very early not a whole lot of technology really involved in in dentistry and certainly not very effective pain. Managment medications and the like So yeah we've got him finally getting out of school at the age of twenty and eighteen ninety two he comes home he hooks up with a druggist guy by the name of george. Mallory and i think you're talking about innovations ben and then i was talking about the lack of of pain medication. We don't have novacaine yet for quite some time but we you may know that Cocaine was a hell of a drug then as well as it is today and was used in the dental profession. It was actually used for quite some time They call the pharmaceutical grade cocaine and it was something that Will you would find in dental offices. Maybe even as recently as the nineteen eighties. But he and george mallory the druggist tinkered around with a formula and ended up with a diluted solution of cocaine that they called hydrocare pain and it is considered the kind of precursor to novacaine and it was very very modern innovation for the time and so it came to pass. That parker was prepared to be on the bleeding edge of dentistry. The bananas at the ad. I said at the very top. Nobody showed up to his job. It was like the nicest restaurant that no one eight at and so he was worried that maybe some maybe they're hints that maybe his reputation for being kicked out a seminary had something to do with this or maybe that was just all in his mind. He said okay. I've got either way. He decided he's got to be embedded in the culture. He's got to be embedded in the society around him rather right because usually people like to work with folks. They already know so. We started going to church. Not just on sundays but twice on sundays. He's trying to really show out. You know he wants to be the auditor student of the church. I guess he's sitting right in the front seeking. Men passed in the collection plate. He's got a huge bible that he carries around everywhere. But no-one no-one goes to his practice are other dentist around or they are just afraid of dentists. His prophets after three months are something abominably. Low like seventy five cents and he goes to his pal mallory and he's like. Hey what the heck man. And matt were paraphrasing. Mallory says oh you know people are afraid to dentist. They find one they trust they stick with him and the towns long established. Dentists cornered the market. And that's part of what we're talking about the stuff they don't want you to know episode because it can be an inherently uncomfortable proposition. The trust people have for dentists. They know can be pretty powerful. Yes it's true. Even though like most of the work is done by genus that kind of rotate in and out. I mean i guess some have like a smaller staff but That matters that final little inspection you know from the dentist or like you know the main procedure they kinda give their sign off on even if they're not the actual one's digging around your mouth the whole time That relationship matters. And i think that's something that parker really understood that they needed to find a way to kind of take the fear out of dentistry and he he did a thing that was probably the most bizarre and extreme version of that proposition that i could imagine and by the way i wanna give huge. Thanks in credit to the santa cruz sentinel author. Ross eric gibson For a very very cool article in the paper called painless parker and the showmanship of dentistry and that showmanship evolved but it began with something quite simple in a world full of smart devices. Isn't it about time. Your printer got smart to now. Printing is smart with hp plus the hp. Smart app is how it all happens. You can print from your phone with just a tap no matter where you are even from your garage slash home office slash yoga studio. That is smart. Hp plus learn more about smart printing at hp dot com slash smart in a world full of smart devices. Isn't it about time. Your printer got smart to now. Printing is smart with hp plus and the hp smart app is how it all happens. You can print from your phone with just a tap no matter where you are even from your garage slash home office slash yoga studio. That is smart. Hp plus learn more about smart printing at hp dot com slash smart. The idea of soliciting patients at the time was considered unethical. It's real catch. Twenty two it's really interesting right. I've got no patience. No one knows about me. My competition is is is cornered. The market and yet. It's unethical for me to solicit to advertise for my practice. But he decided you know what screw it. I'm in a rock and a hard place like you said. Ben i am going to put myself out there and he dubbed himself. He gave himself a monica that he thought would really sell his practice. And that was the name painless parker because at the time these offices are these practices were called dental parlors. They were again. Mostly Staffed by unlicensed dentists and they were pretty unsanitary there wasn't any standard of sanitation or sterilization yet and this stuff was painful. They didn't have his Water down cocaine solution. I don't imagine So he figured that painless. Monica was really going to get people in the door and he claimed that he could Extract a tooth for fifty cents and. It would be painless and that if it wasn't he would pay the patient. five dollars. five dollars that he admittedly did not have the so yeah he also was should point out paid for that. Sign that painless parker side in dentures. He didn't have the money to pay the sign meager so he gave the cy maker new set of dentures. Yeah and to be honest with you. This cocaine solution. Hydro kane didn't always work sometimes. Sometimes parker would just say like hey. Do you like whiskey. And then give them a glass of whisky either way. The narcotic did tend to work and soon he was making handover fists money as a traveling dentist and he would. He would particularly love to borrow a nearby rocking chair for his patients so he could lean them back and work on them and then he started becoming a he started becoming a character. You know he. He knew that he had to be memorable in the public eye. He had to somehow succeed against the intense dislike. People had dentists so he went big. He got a white coat and a top hat and then he would put planted a you. Gather an audience right by a wagon just like you would imagine a medicine show and then he would put plants in the audience. I mean people pretending they didn't know not like good elephants or or something finance or something you wanna makes me think of. It makes me think of the The the the regular the real life incarnation of the wizard of oz and the wizard of oz movie. What was his name like. Dr mysterious show or something like that Medicine show. yeah it was. They had like he had like a big wagon with his logo. Painted on the side and would pedal these tonics or whatever like a mystical cures and they called him snake oil salesman because they were rooted in huxterism. And it was. You know there was no truth to any of the remedies. I mean he was offering a service real and i mean he was offering a narcotic that would hopefully help numb the pain. Because let's just remember. Cocaine is a numbing agent or can be a numbing agent and that was how it was used but apparently also like the comes a little later but he He would sometimes not even fully inject the tooth. He would just sort of squirt it on their on the cavity I think probably because he was trying to conserve his supply I'm just guessing there but yeah yeah it's true. He was definitely like on the street corner with his top hat. Kind of like making a big song and dance out of this whole thing. And we're yeah. Yeah yeah le- let me go back to. The plant thing is very important i. It's it's unethical. We can agree but he here's what he did with. The patient or is fake. Patient is tested any patient. They would pretend to pull out a molar and then show the audience. Hey i'd been hiding this tooth. This this extraction from painless. Parker was a breeze and then a brass band would start pupil dancing in court. Tortous did this guy would be you know step right up step right up and this baca fifty cents extraction five dollars if you feel that outs paid. And then while he was pulling the tooth out this is so crazy he would. He would signal the band to reach a crescendo. And so as this person was screaming if there were screaming like oh gosh you said it wouldn't hurt you. Son of a brass bands are loud Definitely could john. I do wonder how did he get away without having to pay out five bucks every time the stems foot for the brass band presumably because someone was like you know screaming and agony. I wondered about that too. Because as we'll find he did make some enemies he does get away unscathed here that that answer. I don't know it's tough it gets. I wonder if that was an early. I wonder if that was an early. Part of his gimmick and then when he brought in the brass band the contortionist maybe he abandoned that part because he had enough bells and whistles to bring people without the money back. Yeah that's it must be because he's got so much overhead now he is and again. This is the time when he really started kind of like being a little bit Cheap when it came to doling out that sweet sweet tooth juice he would occasionally only scored it on the tooth or he wouldn't inject it at all or like you said are just like give them a little bit of whiskey or scored it in the cavity and even winning injected it. Like you said sometimes didn't work but still against all odds that brass band man. That did it. That was more of a a helpful distraction. I think then the pain medication. Even i think the whole circus of it all gave people something to focus on Outside of the nasty business of going to the dentist and let's not forget to people that are at the point this is actually actually probably also a good potential answer for the five dollar back guarantee people that are getting to this point where they're going and seeking out a dentist or already in horrible pain right. I mean there's been a time where they would have let it go to the point where they're just like a dying. We've had two problems in the past both of us. I believe in and when it's bad you'll do anything you know. He'll do anything to get to get it taken care of. Yeah that's a really good point and you know just for context at this time in history. The vast majority of people aren't really going in for checkups right. I said no preventive preventative dentistry. But here's what. Here's what parker has done. Now he's he's made his profession a spectacle and now people are responding to a social event that they attend together part of the fear and the pain of for people when they visited the dentist is. It's you and one other person in this room right but now you're seeing people say look he pulled my tooth out and it's fine and you don't know they're lying and there's end and it's awesome and people are all cheering. Oh and you get this really cool if i may max fanfare whenever the to successfully extracted like okay. It's like it's like we won the level in zelda. You know i mean you're like this whole queue everyone's like the tensions building and then delta and delta soundtrack is based on parkersburg. It's true story handoffs as historical fact. But this wasn't this didn't last. He had made this honestly he had to in the dental profession as it was starting to become more. I mean it wasn't let little he went to this university. That was very much. A serious dental university temple was. Then what is now temple in philadelphia so dentistry was beginning to become a serious profession and those who took it seriously really resented parker. So you know he was the subject of lawsuits. He was the subject of a lot of negative talk in the press even and he eventually decided you know what. Maybe this is a little too much for me. So he went to canada The west coast of canada and tried to turn this whole thing around and become one of those You know legitimate dentists. That hated him so much in victoria and he set up shop there with a regular old dental practice and then he got in trouble because he did not have a local license so it didn't matter if he graduated this prestigious university. He needed local accreditation and so he has a brief adventure that i would love to read as a comic book. Graphic novel spin off for part of eighteen. Ninety two into 1893. Parker lives in a place called sitka alaska. He is the state's loan. Dentist the dentist of the frozen frontier. I can see it now. You know. I can feel some epic music. There is parents and sister. Meanwhile they move to brooklyn and in may of eighteen ninety six he goes and visits them and he's still he's still very budget conscious right. So he's like. I don't know if i can afford someone to play the horn for me for my act. So maybe i can learn to play the cornet myself but it doesn't work because he needs to focus on being a dentist. I totally any also apparently has no inherent musical talent whatsoever And you know is caterwauling away on this cornet and a neighbor woman who's practicing the piano bangs on the door and says who's making all that racket and reply comes from within this is from santa cruz sentinel article as well. A reply comes from within. Oh that's my brother. Painless parker and wouldn't you know it. Parker and the complaining pianist eventually get married. It was it was they call them meet cute right there. That's a meet cute. That is he opens an office in brooklyn but he's still struggling to just make rent much less make a profit or saves them money. The guys collected his rent. Is a guy named william bieb or bb. Who said quote. Look parker you're being dope. There are lots of dr parker's we was calling himself. Dr er parker this time. But there's only one painless parker and his this guys tells them you know if you go back to doing your circus stuff you'll be a millionaire and a million dollars was a lot more money back then as well. No joke and this guy bb bieb. It's got out analyst with the standardized bb. What do you think penn. I call them the bieb with gone. The beads so the beeps at. He's got a name for it. He turns out used to be a manager for the p. T. barnum circus or barnum. You know the biggest the greatest show on earth and all that and he knew this exactly the kind of background that That parker came from and he was like. What are you doing man. You're a sensation. I know it was a barnum was always a little scandalous when he'd come to town and The bieb saw that kind of spark in parker And he said you know. What are you doing man. You gotta go back to being the greatest dental showman you know around. And he was trying. Parker was trying to you. Know turn his ways around. I guess I don't know that he had shame about it. But it does seem like from his trajectory ben especially that weird sojourn to alaska like. He was struggling with it. A little bit right with his is own sense of self. Like what am i you know. He had a Identity crisis or something. I am i just one of the rabble midwest just want to be one of the you know the the dental heard or do i want to like be something greater and he sort of lost sight of who he was for a while and now this guy bieb is helping him find that again. Yeah and so he gets pretty it. It gets weird. He's back to. He's back to being this showman like you said he's got his skies outfit on again picture. The you know the circus ringmaster and the tall hat. Long tails and You know the somewhat grizzly edition of a necklace made out of teeth which was somehow not creepy to a lot of people And they he. And william the beams made a genuine circus. They had acrobats. They had jugglers parker even road atop an elephant. A time or two and this. This changed the game for his office. All the sudden waves of people are coming in he's booked to the gills. He has to turn people away. We've got no room for more clients. He ends up renting. He goes big immediately renting six more offices. He hires other no offense parker slightly. More legit dentist run these offices and he pays the more than they would work. Make working somewhere else. But they still don't like him. If feels bad they feel like the money is is somehow dirty because of the the spectacle parker is associated with people see more as an entertainer in some circles or than a dentist and other dentists. You know other dentists. It's no secret. They seem to look down upon pretty severely. Yeah and speaking of the bieb I just want to point out this wonderful article that we started at the top of the show from the bbc aka the beep. Painless parker part dentists part showman. All american and you can see a wonderful image of that tooth necklace and it is absolutely Macab and this article is james. Bartlett kind of talking through the legacy of painless parker and it's an excellent read but he basically just ups the ante on the smaller kind of medicine show that he was doing before i get. He must have gotten some investment. I mean i think he had had some success up to this point. So maybe he had some money. Squirrelled away but It seems like he really did take it up to the next level like you said adding acrobats magicians even and An live animal. I mean this really was like a traveling circus and it made a ton of money and absolute mint And really pave the way for. What would ultimately become a dental empire for painless parker. Oh yeah empire is not a hyperbolic phrase to use there because he was the first person to do this successfully. But he wasn't the only one there were other people who would follow in his path they would try to. You know new would try to have a little bit of theater and spectacle to get people into their doors but because he was the first he was also the most famous and he didn't get a lot of this did not make him the bell of the dental community ball but this did bring him a lot of money. And as michael pollock points out writing for the new york times he had the he he had all these. Kind of courtney. Highly alliterative phrases. These slogans that people really love proclaimed by public preston. Pulpit pain this of positively perfect notice that we had pulpit the thrown in there. I wanted to reference back to his old His old bible thumping days it makes it sound like there's a preacher who is everybody comes in on their. You know in church and some sunday and this guy stops for second and says like today's sermon is brought to you by painless parker. Exactly oh and dude. I mean this building. It really is new york times article. You mentioned ben this building. It's a huge building by the way in in brooklyn and there is an image on the article. Courtesy of the museum of the city of new york. That shows these slogans that he just had all over the building like covering every flat kind of like painful surface and at the top. It says i am positively it and it is like three stories tall in painless dentistry. And apparently he would. I mean his showmanship when it came to like advertising for his practice really there was no No nothing he wouldn't do. there is no end to it. He you know what does it fly. Men or spiderman is human flies. They're kind of an old school thing dudes. That would kind of scale tall buildings in new york city or other big city skyscrapers and he would have those dudes like hire them out and have them scale his building in particularly scale that it Which is the highest point of. The building literally goes to the very very very tippy top. So he knew how to draw crowd That's for sure yes. It would be tight rope walkers that would have that would be doing the tight rope act but they'd also be holding aside like i've going to pay this barkers and this this is brilliant marketing so customers also eventually fill up his new expanded office that huge building and so he gets a horse-drawn can a flatbed with the dentist chair for traveling shows and he keeps this bucket of teeth close at hand so he can show it to people probably while he's still rocking that necklace and over time we have to point out. He deserves this to be pointed out over time. He has become a competent dentist. You know what i mean. He was rushing beginning. And it's not that's true but he's become a competent dentists and unfortunately his marketing and his pr has made people in the dentistry community and other communities always dismiss him as flimflam guy conman but he is at this point a dentist who would be considered legit in his time and he's also not even practically not even the one. That's doing most of the work. He's got like a team now. Working on him yeah. He's a brand name. Exactly like a fifteen licensed dentists many of whom you know. According to various accounts that we've read very much resented working for him because he represented this thing that we've been talking about the whole time this kind of bastardisation of the noble profession of tooth plumbing right but there they were because he paid well and he was kind of the the biggest game in town so he essentially started in the santa cruz. Sentinel article refers to it as assembly line dentistry. So he really does have a system they even had these pulleys with like clotheslines where they'd send the receipts to the cashier zip line and over to him and by the early nineteen hundreds by nineteen hundred particular he had five branches throughout new york city and also in upstate new york in albany and troy and all told was making five grand a day. This deserves an inflation latest maximum. Some tuban through it seeing a believer studied. Max here's the result folks. Five thousand dollars in nineteen hundred would be worth one hundred sixty thousand two hundred thirty five dollars and twelve cents today. That is a ton of money to be making every single day. This this goes on for a while and you know it's successful and the beeps by the way is still is still very much in the mix until nineteen o four. He passes away. And then a few weeks later parker himself contracts typhoid and at this point we have to ask ourselves. This is purely speculation but we have to ask ourselves whether parker felts. It sacrificed financial success for professional reputation. Because you can get a sense of how severely people dislike in like as pollock points out. There is a nineteen ten article from hamptons magazine. That describes his the painless parker building. Variously at the junction of flatbush avenue and pacific street is gigantic. brownstone building. The fronts brooklyn's busiest square. This building emblazoned with blue sides is a monument to the colossal and blatant self puffery of the most notorious of all the swindling tooth tinkers. It is the original headquarters of the most conceded. Charlotte's the dental quackery has ever known the citadel of painless parker the drum corps. Dentist the drum corps dentists. Wow harsh bro harsh. And this is one thousand nine ten so this is published five years after he sold his stake in the business high tailed it to la with his family to retire at. Get this the ripe old age of thirty five. You lucky ago l. I mean. I guess you know. In the same way that inflation calculators work it sort of worked for age to thirty five in one thousand nine hundred ten would have been more like probably fifty in terms of life expectancy today. maybe not. i don't know but it is funny. He definitely made a mint in and was able to. You know take off to la but the schoeman's you know you can take the man out of the show but you can't take the show out of the man can you. Ben can't do in a world full of smart devices. Shouldn't your printer be smart to it is with hp plus. These printers no win. They're running low so you always get the ink. You need delivered right when you need it. Plus you save up to fifty percent on inc so you can print whatever you want as much as you want anytime you want. That is pretty smart. Get six months free of instinct when you choose. Hp plus conditions apply visit hp dot com slash. 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This is what i do It works again. He's onto something by nineteen. He's got another empire started or franchise at least he's got what five five different offices and five different towns. And ben you make a really good point you. He is giving lectures on dental hygiene which is pretty forward thinking. Despite you know his reputation as being a charlatan. I mean he did seemingly have a bit of a head. Start on this thing that we think of now is so important and honestly the most important part of dentistry and in the bbc article that i mentioned where you can see that fantastic image of the the tooth necklace. There's an advertisement that says this fixed teeth stay fixed longer when kept clean with painless parker powder or paste the product of fifty years experience. Wait a minute but he is thirty five. I don't understand the products that maybe there's some charlotte going on the product. Fifty years experience. None better ask your druggist and been you. Were just in philly. No you went to some museums. But i don't imagine you went to the corn berg school of dentistry museum which sounds pretty cool. I love weird old medical tech. And i love. I love old. Medical also love museums about very specific things. That's i don't know why just like a reference works by very specific things this philly's got some weird ones. They've got the motor museum. Think a lot of weird taxidermy and like medical appliances. And there's a few other kind of very specific ones in philly too for some. I got you know. I got lost in the philadelphia museum of art. It's just wonderful labyrinthine too so you can find so many amazing things but yes. I will put this on my list. What i returned to philly. Also parker's taking better care of himself. This point in his life he stopped drinking. He stopped smoking then. He he's focusing on this Showmanship eventually he says you know. I need to pay. I need to be more mindful of bacteria right in contamination. So i'm not gonna do. These sidewalk demonstrations anymore and he starts screening educational films about dental hygiene in his office and people are always invited to come in for a free checkup. But like i said before man. He's made some enemies because we we mentioned especially in those earlier times. He's dental extractions often. Were not painless right. There were people who felt they had been swindled. They felt they had been sold. A bill of goods and other dentists were aware that there were angry patients. The american dental association even called him a menace to the dignity of the profession. Yeah because parker really had this kind of checkered legacy or on the one hand he was seen as the charlatan and this kind of snake oil salesman but on the other hand he definitely developed some techniques and some kind of forward thinking ways of looking at Dental hygiene right that that you know kind of to this day and also not dimension the idea of a precursor to novacaine that he kind of just invented a more or less but The former dean of the temple university maurice h corn berg school of dentistry. Dr amid ishmail makes a really really good point. That i think is one that is good to leave with today That he quote serves as a warning to consumers. Even today scientific evidence must remain the foundation of clinical care in any health field otherwise we will be victims to modern charlatans so i think it's no accident that the that museum we're talking about still has on display that bucket of teeth and that Weird macab tooth necklace and Keeps the memory of painless parker alive and there are other aspects of this story. Little facts here in there they give you. Even more of a sense of parker's life. He legally changed his first name to painless firing samples right his and his contributions. Are you know undeniable even though he could arguably be called a con artist at different times. i. I love the point that the dean makes there. Because it's it's an important one and if you'd like to if you'd like to learn more about why this point is so important. I would recommend checking out our episode on stuff. They don't want you know called stuff they don't want you to know goes to the dentist we found. There's a lot of opportunity for bad actors when they have somebody in a vulnerable position. Like this with with the power imbalance because you know the dentist knows what they are doing. But the patient doesn't really know what know what's going on in their totally and the reason he changed his name by the way too. Painless parker was because of a new law that came about in california preventing dentists from practicing under anything but they're real main because they believed that painless parker was a false advertising not only because it was a pseudonym because it promised painless you know dental procedures So that's why he changed his name but he was so very much part of the zeitgeist at the time that just a couple of years before he died in nineteen forty eight bob. Hope played a character in a movie. called paleface with jayne mansfield named peter painless potter movie. Who is a kind of a huck story snake. Oil dentist and parker you know lived to see the picture and loved it apparently and also gave them a little more publicity which You can't you can't buy publicity like that. No such thing as bad publicity. I bet parker believed he probably did. You probably did but That's not a statement. Everybody agrees with. We also want to give a shoutout to michael de tola. Who was himself a dentist. Who awfully points out. That parker was at one point in his career. Quote more famous than the president Already crazy. yeah it's at least he didn't say it and then had somebody e put a plant in the crowd. But did we mention that. The dentists have a particularly unusually high rate of suicide particularly in the medical community. There's a there's a couple of stats from success dot. Ada dot org apparently male dentists have the highest rate of suicide within the medical community at eight point. Zero two percent and female dentists the fourth highest at five point two eight doctors seven point. Eight seven pharmacists. Seven point one nine and nurses six point five six but yeah eight point two percent for for dentists. It's apparently a thing not to end on a down note which we won't but There's a really and if you want to explore this trend in any more depth There's a great article vice. Are dentists really more prone to suicide by elizabeth brown and they quote a A dentist saying you're in a career where nobody wants to see you and you're the last place they want to come back to and it's depressing Which is something that painless. Parker i think was trying to turn on. Its head a bit right. Yeah and this is a this is a statistic. You'll see bandied around in various forms of the doctor. You quote makes a good point about this. I didn't include it in stuff. They don't want you to nose episode on dentistry because we didn't want to focus on the tragedy of suicide. There is some sand to that research. However blitzen maybe weird slightly funding slash gross dental facts. Did you know that there are people getting tattoos on their caps in crowns to tattoos. They can't do that yet. Okay yeah okay. I guess that's sort of like maybe the equivalent of getting like a gold grill or like a diamond encrusted tooth or something like that vanity area of dentistry. Yeah i guess so. I guess i've also seen this thing. I've seen reports of this thing where people are getting their teeth lake colored or decorated the way that you would of fingernails through some kind of some kind of process. It's not permanent. At least as far as i know. But here's a cool ice breaker. You can throw out there next time you find yourself in the dentist office The average person over the course of their life apparently spins thirty eight days. Total rushing their teeth. Well a hopefully all of us who have maybe let some of that. Dental upkeep Fall by the wayside during cova can look at that as a as an inspiration to change our ways. Ben i want to end with one more fact if you don't mind The comical dental fact is that Cotton candy was invented by a dentist. There we go. The the the literal like bane of of dentistry was invented by a dentist. This dude named dr william james morrison who Mental floss described as being a man at odds with himself because not only was he in in the dental profession. he also had a sweet tooth and was sort of a fair. i you know part time confectioner. And then well you know what you would call. Candyfloss has been used for generations in various cultures What we would think of as the type of machine spun sugar. Cotton candy wasn't fact debuted at the nineteen. Oh four world's fair by a dentist. Thanks so much for tuning in folks. Hope you enjoyed this. When thanks to our super producers casey peg and the one and only max williams. Max what should we forgot to ask you at the top. What's your what's your take on. Dentist do you are you. Are you an ardent fan of dentistry. So i have a story in the past where i went a little too long on the dentist like i say how many years it was on air. It's that bad but no dennis. They're they're fine people. I don't like them but they do important job will you. You mean you don't like having to go to the dentist. You're not saying when you find out a friend is a dentist. You're like oh forget it this. Oh no no. I m saying oh wow breckenridge. Thanks so much. Jonathan strickland aka the wister. Thanks as always to gabe. Lucia research associate and thanks to the dentists out there. You're doing good profound and often thankless work and you know in addition. The people ignored often. Thanks to the dentistry assistance. Thanks to the hygienic. Thinks to everybody makes good teeth possible including including you folks. Let's remember to rush. We'll see next time folks for more podcasts. From iheartradio visit the iheartradio app apple podcasts. 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Episode #271: Igniting The Fire Part 1

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Episode #271: Igniting The Fire Part 1

"This is Caitlin Blackwood. I've played young a million pond on doctor. Who and you're listening to the five. Ish Van Girls podcasts. The tangents squeak ontinue all the way to episode two hundred seventy one of the five. Ish Van Girl Faculty it. We may not have started the fire. But we as responsible for this earworm. Jesus George start off like a virtual table in see his joined us this week. This is Brittany Bethlehem's this. This is chrissie in Salt Lake City business. Allie from Wisconsin. This is Rachel in the wind tunnel. Minia Wendy outside stuff all day. I do live in Tornado Alley though. That's Kinda be careful. Yeah let me both. We've had some rain storms. The last few to over the last week where her name has led boarding 'til sometime tomorrow morning so tau year or it's dry and everything but who knows all the ice melts as slowly making. Its Way Yeah Been Heinz. I'm just hope everybody. We don't get snow. Be careful out there everybody Do the news really have a lot of news and I haven't even watched yet but there was apparently a trailer announcing a book released couple book releases for the Dresden. Buying yes not restraint. They're on my list but okay so peace talks I actually have an e arc of it which is an advanced reader. Copy is yes it. It's their perks to being a librarian and being a member of net Galley But that has been in the works for several years. It now has a release date and apparently the book that the Jim Butcher was working on ended up getting split into two so peace talks is coming out in July and battleground which I guess is sort of spoiler for how the peace talks go. I haven't finished peace talks. This isn't me being anything Battleground will be out this September and that one is not abundant Kelly because I checked obviously my soleil rereading. I am a great peril. So I am rotating between physical and The lovely audio quality of James Marsters. Doing so okay. So says July fourteenth twenty twenties when peace talks comes out and I'm looking up battleground. It's seventeen It's as expected publication. Twenty twenty sorry. I'm on good reads and I had to do a little bit of September twenty-ninth okay plan was well developed but that was sort of that was sort of a surprise because you know if if you are familiar with I don't want to call it a controversy but you know it's the Internet. They have to make a big deal out of everything people. Were you know doing this thing with with Jim Saying? Hey you should be writing. Why are you writing your writing? So he finally put up website. That says how long until peace talks comes out and it had a counter except the counter wasn't counting down. The days was counting down how many people clicked on the website so the more people bugged him about it. The longer it would get a troll of a man. You you wonderful so into this book alone for so I mean I mean. This is the thing. Jim Butcher's kind of a workaholic. And maybe ask you a couple of years off from from Dresden files to write The Cinder spires and what was the other one he did quota salons. Yeah that one and you know you got married built. A House moved into a lot of things going on. So I'm like you know what after being so realistic. You know so consistent for so many years I'm willing to give you a break and a owner and a looks like a foster fail. Because every single time we see cat he threatened. Yeah not live longer. I I hate to say it. I think is there for the on Hall Joe? Yes so anyway. So there you go. If you're a fan of of of the Dresden files you got something to look forward to if you are not yet a fan of dressed in files first of all what and second of all just start reading them or listening to the audio book I will say this I you know. Give it a couple of books to get really really good. I mean I kept with it. The third book was not my favorite but then book for summer night. The one I guess was like yes. This is amazing but most people say like book three is their favorite. But I'm kind of the book. I'm I'm kind of like you Kristie. I was more towards folklore. It's just like Oh yeah I mean it's just it's just fun. I mean if you don't know the premise of it He's a Harry. Dresden is a higher in Chicago is a private investigator. Uses magic yes and he has he has a. He has the most disdainful cat. You'll ever know and later. He gets a really huge dog which I loved the dog but anyway and he says they are cast talking skull yes and cast of characters to spirals out from there and it's amazing and he is he's Erkki as all get out of ood like wait. It's on my list and I think just be. Yep quite a few audible credits. So this year's worth it is definitely worth getting on audio book. I've I've kind of about seventy five percent audiobook twenty-five percent reading it well on kindle is what I what I e books so and check north third job with yes yes very much so I do like James Morrison. Yeah I am. I am looking up on our Well the the live our library so e book or e e Book audiobook stuff To See if it's available on overdrive for audio because you know that's kind of it's kind of hard to get to the actual library these days but yeah it looks like there may be a wait list depending on what your library is looking like but overdrive seems to have them available so if you are looking for something good to read or listen to highly recommended guess how many books these talks is number sixteen although there are a couple of them that are like short story anthologies right and working for bigfoot is a. I love the bigfoot ones. There's there's like three of those short stories that they all kind of connect but but you can read them on their on their own too right. That's it for the news actually. So let's let's let's put a plug in real quick just for the doctor who tweet alongs. Oh twitter there was one just this afternoon. I actually managed to to get it watched I the the I forgot what the time change. Every back in our I was thinking it was still two o'clock. It was one o'clock by. Yeah Mike. My problem is that's right around lunchtime slash naptime for the little ones so it was scare was gonna get. Alex was watching toy story. One of the toy story movies. And I'm like I think I can sneak away and do this and so I didn't and I manage it so if you can the next one a believe. They're watching the eleventh hour. And it's April third so this is Friday. Yes yes and it's like I said Emily Cook is a doctor. Who magazine is the one kind of arranging for this or twitter handle? Is Emily under four Rozina. But you can also go to law awesome job get. Yeah today. They did Vincent and the Doctor Matt Smith. They have a special twitter handle for people who just want a tweet for. Don't don't have aren't on twitter and just want to tweet for this thing. So he and Bill Nighy. Were were tweeting from lockdown at lockdown. Who but that's also the twitter handle. You can get all the information about whether they're Tony. Curran grand yes. He Played Vincent and Richard. With tweeting from somewhere he was eased. The writer through some of the tweets. After the fact the SOC- see what I missed. Apparently at some point Matt and Tony as the doctor in visit decided to wrestle yet. While here's Karen says it was a hot mess. I can imagine we why not surprise. There was no real winner in this contest to lose gently. Her Dad got her a copy of the the Amy Sunflowers ooh. Yeah any didn't know the connection. He just got it for it because he thought she'd like it. Some heated. Wait a minute. Your Dad's still angle but we don't have been Van Gogh painting somehow got stolen either today or yesterday from. I don't know where but they didn't say which one God still haunts hearing. You Talk to your dad this but anyway so the next one seems like they'll they'll be doing this ongoing until we're all until let go out of quarantine so you know it's kind of Nice to have something to look forward to. Yes then it's nice to kind of go back to the earlier knew who I was. I managed to do the rose last week and that was fun. It's been a long time since I watch any of the Ninth. Doctor let alone. Yeah the very first and it was. It was pretty awesome especially to have. Russell t Davies Deleting along so then the nice little quote unquote sequel more like a extra bonus ending to the episode. Yeah which I won't spoil but if you're up on UK politics it's a Brussel. Tv's is once again proven that he is aware of what's going on in the world so got the you get that little. Stinger review of the unlike Ole. He went there. Okay no so yeah. They've been. They've been quite fun and they're totally. Obviously the it was kind of born of a fan thing even though she does work for Dr Magazine but like all the official block new social. Media's I'm totally bashing this is a yeah it's a thing and they're sharing it on their social media so yep well it's like we we need something to look forward to so You know everyone jumping and let's have fun with it and I guess Stephen tweeting again on Friday. I think that's at least that's what I saw. I will double check that but I don't even I'm sure they'll get more matt might even show up again. Who knows so nice? Nobody already SPECI- anybody this own at. It's so nice to see trending. Is this like yes? Okay yes you did say Stephen. Moffatt will be live tweeting On Friday for the eleventh hour not any though no word on anyone else who's going to be joining but you know there's still time to figure that out at it's like what else are we doing guys was is the hash take fish fingers and custard ours. It's just it's just fish custard hashish and every every episode that they're doing has this as a Hashtag vincit in the doctor was the ultimate ginger and fish custard Hashtag doctor. Who So and make sure that your time zones are correct. I'm changing shenanigans. Going on. Yeah Hornets moving on to fee back a recipe back from shoulder lane She writes real quickly He's like I heard some good movies or cut the are cut there. Were supposed to be coming out. This summer are getting delayed. Like wonder woman to is laid August She's also the Disney other films like soul and the jungle cruise. Right now are going to keep their release date which yes that is true. I know we kind of brushed over. It mentioned it really quickly last week or talking about being. You know stuff getting delayed yeah it was. Kinda like things like. Yeah wh Wonder woman has been pushed back. A black widow has been pushed back So those are two big ones like the James Bond with like one of the first ones to get a push back. That was weeks ago. And the other studios this sort of followed suit and be surprised to some of your favorite sci-fi TV shows you're seeing more repeats or at least of had the close up for right 'cause needle when they have like three or four episodes of supernatural films. But they can't put him out because special effects aren't done and they still haven't filmed the last episode yet. So who knows when this last season actually? Yeah I know the supernatural fans really. Don't want the show to go but this is kind of ridiculous. Yep this no no because you know. Productions had to shut down. Because they don't want people grouping together But then again. They don't want people grouping together out in public. Somethings like movie theaters just close. So there's no point in releasing new movies if the theaters aren't open to show them so in some faces you know they've been delayed in other cases if they are already in theaters you're bumping up when they go to streaming and or digital like you know first to win out on Disney plus earlier than anticipated Onward is actually going to be out of Disney plus later this week and and it's sprite For next week's PODCAST. So there's a hint if you WANNA get in feedback about it and so all the stuff that we were counting down to is kinda stuck in limbo for now. So Oh yeah. I have a usually like the beginning of the year. I write out on my calendar when movies are going to be released announced like I do this kind of like well gone now. Going to have to have to update. That's pretty heavily when all is said and done. Yeah Yep that's all right so yes lots of if we'd gone through and said this is canceled. This canceled this is cancelled that well. That's what the episode last week was about anyway but it was also about focusing on things you could do. Yeah that's what we wanted to do. We really want to focus on the well. Yeah all the canceled and you can go look that up. But here's some stuff to keep you up like Hustle Tiffin Fun So Yeah Oh yeah for delaying and everybody else. If you're curious the best thing is to be connected to the social media's for the different movie studios were they will from those. They'll they will definitely let you know because they want people to know so you can go spend your money at the movie theater when you an buying it on digital or that too all right well moving on weeks. Maybe you a topic which is somewhat worn out of our punishment Mitch to find a positive out of this. I guess But then this is also A. I'm also kind of stealing this from my high school. Oh June near year I think Social Studies world history. Whatever class. I don't call. They had like some fancy schmancy name. The teacher gave it to differentiate it from all the other social studies history classes. I don't remember because that was a long time ago back before the Internet so I had this class. Social Studies world history. Whatever you WANNA call it and The one of actually taught by two two teachers at the same time and like they would alternate what they would do like. I said it was because we need class. was years English Social Studies. Or JUST NO DIFFERENT TYPES. Now at he's just like social studies and history so but we had things like Every year the classes beginning of the year we'll get put into groups and each group will be assigned to state states in on the one of the far walls in the classroom. They have big map of the United States. And we'd have to take our state create it out of the give us a template we'd have to make the state and then Decorate the shape of it with like notable things like landmarks and bodies and water and other things and then we'd mount them to the wall and they're so every year they had a unique map of the United States that was made by the students and we have stuffed bear attacks. Ribeiro that sat in the class. That had a stupid ide- and we watch things like What's his face The documentary guy. the does all the super log documentaries for P. B. S. show. What's his name? Yeah I know you talk about what we watched his like civil war series for part of the semester which I had that class right after lunch so that was a bad combination because it's like post lunch full Tummy WanNa take an APP and I'm sitting in the civil work. What So it was. They tried to keep it more exciting. Just sitting there with the textbook and regurgitating the dates and figures and stuff on it test But one of the things that really stood out to me. The sites taxidermied bear was that that they would take the Song Billy Joel. We didn't start the fire. Which re reference we're talking Lawrence of Arabia and take all the headlines. Essentially all the things Billy Joel Mentions. Stick them on slips of paper put all all sorts of paper and a basket. Pass it around. And all the students had to pull out the however many that it broke up evenly ish. You know whatever. The class size was versus the Hubbard Lake. Nineteen things that are mentioned in the movie. The song And so we'd have to draw however many and The We'd have to research and give like a three minute presentation or something on Lear was about and I got I had to do three. I got line Stein. It'll mania and hypoc Knicks on the shore. Three bad always bad but This being the late nineties early two thousands are options for research or more limited than they are now yet even cleaning your so you really back and we had the internet at school but a very limited and slow a lot of a lot of the things that a lot of the things that We take for granted. These days hadn't really been invented yet. Yeah leased as literally you can go to the wikipedia entry four. We didn't start the fire. And it gives you all the lyrics and links to other wikipedia articles for every single thing. Yup I mean. I'm looking at the list right now and it should. I mean it's just a bullet point list of everything mentioned and I'm seeing it Harry. Truman Doors Day Ridge and all the way down but I thought it would be kind of fun to take that assignment that I had way back in the day over twenty years ago. My God and Go through the lyrics. We're not GONNA do the entire song we're going break this up into chunks and Go through a chunk of lyrics and see what we think we know about what Billy Joel talking about and see how much we actually don't know so there's lot of names and stuff you'll probably recognize that you don't necessarily know what it is. He's ferring to because there is a method to the madness with these lyrics which I think is the best place to start is kind of the history an idea in the background of the song. So Billy Joel wrote the song writers. He turned forty in the late eighties. And he was at the recording studio and met a friend of Sean Lennon's who was twenty one years old at the time and Apparently this friend was lamenting to Billy Joel. About how as a terrible time to be twenty one granted this is like eight hundred eighty nine so Joel replied to him. Yeah I remember when I was twenty one. I thought it was lawful time and we had Vietnam drug problems so rights problems. Everything seemed to be awful and the kid was like it's different for you. Your kid in the fifties and everybody knows that nothing happened in the fifties. Listen hold on Austrian war or the Suez Canal crisis so yeah. Essentially he sat down and wrote all of the things that he remembers being notable or line material from the US born nineteen forty nine two when he finished wrote the song. Which is I eighty nine So it goes through Every chunk of lyrics is different year So it's not that he's just throwing out Albert Einstein for the fact that he's a note of lame it's specific the order that these appear in is on purpose because they're all tied to that specific year so those chunk lyrics are part of that story just kind of cracks me up because I'm just like of like every generation doesn't matter if you're talking when you were born which when you're talking about the all at some point think oh you know so and so had it so much so so much better and then they screwed it up and everything and I'm like you know what you didn't you didn't these these idea is that you're that you've put forward that you think are going to be a lot better. They were old when your grandparents were babies. So you're not inventing anything new papers that See this reference point. Please yeah yeah exactly. So it's just Kinda like Yeah you're not. You're not the first one to think of this as you're probably not going to be the last but you know study history. Kids sound like a like a grumpy old woman when I say that but I think I was saying that in my twenties I was I was so I am an yes for that library over most things and wants to think history. Ten Times tends to repeat itself Indeed indie stuff tends to be more connected. You realize you'll said shooting in this first chunk lyrics house to house stuff ends up being connected so kind of crazy Preface this by saying you know. I do what I did and try to do. My best due diligence as far research and try to figure out what exactly obviously Kapiti article says one thing. I didn't necessarily just take that face value. I turned to dig deeper so I did what I could to figure out. Okay this chunk lyrics is nineteen forty-nine. What exactly is Billy? Joel referring to him. So I'm we're doing our best as far as research and Obviously we have to make assumptions means. I don't have Jones speed. Dial to ask would be. We'll be right So and of course you know these lyrics they cover the gamut everything from entertainment to politics. Obviously we don't try to get political so we're going to try to just prevent the prevent presents turnip prevent the facts. No back bench. The fact as they are best like this is what happened. Moving on right yes in some cases. There's there's some like well. He said he said you know there are things in prince that off. It is so if you want to do your own research field. Go right ahead. Internet is indeed. It is so with that we're going to start in the nine hundred forty nine chunk of lyrics with our very first entry which is Harry Truman. so in Nineteen forty-nine Harry. Truman is sworn in for his second term as the thirty third president of the United States Vice President Mr Chief Justice citizen I except with humility the honor which the American people have conferred upon the I accept it for the resolve to do all that I can for the welfare of this nation and for the peace of the world in performing the duties of my office. I need the help and the prayers of every one of you. I ask for your encouragement and for your support. The tasks we face are difficult. We can accomplish them. Only if we work together previously Truman had been vice president to Franklin Delano Roosevelt Yar Which is interesting considering This was when he was. Fdr's vice president. This was the fourth term as president and his Freebie he'd actually had a different vice president previously Henry Wallis and When FDR went to run for that fourth term they decided that Wallace was not no longer good fit and kicked him out essentially and replaced him with Sherman on the ticket so the Roosevelt Truman ticket. One if you are his fourth term in nineteen forty four But then in April of nineteen forty five. Fdr passed away While still in office of a interest cerebral hemorrhage essentially is a brain bleed so Obviously as the line of succession is Truman becomes presidents taking over for FDR. Obviously forty five. If you know your history that still will war to So Truman now president of the United States had to preside over the end of World War. Two and that includes the use of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan So going into the election in nineteen forty eight Truman's Truman was not a very high standing as far as public approval. Ants So he did not seem As far as the the DNC was concerned did not seem like he was likely to win the election on his own as president There were talks of replacing him actually with Eisenhower. Who is general at the time But it's He ended up staying the Democratic candidates and after the after securing the candidacy at the convention. Truman went on a huge essentially campaign. Extravaganza road trip via train. Actually since he's forties ended up covering almost twenty two thousand miles via train and Made what people turn this whistle. Stop speeches where he would stand on. The back of rear platform of the observation. Car and speak to. The thousands of people would come to listen to him talk What's notable is. A wine is truly noble. Is that So a lot of people thought that Truman was going to to lose and was not going to get reelected and lose to the Republican nominee Guy Named Dewey and as we know from history German actually did win and most people probably seen the Famous picture of Truman The day after Election Day holding a copy of the Chicago Tribune with the headline Dewey Defeats Truman. Because they were there they were so sure that he was gonNA lose that. They went ahead. Imprinted the newspaper with that headline it. The one thing about journalism doesn't matter you know what you're talking about. They they always have to be the first to get the story out so so for. We talked when I was studying journalism. We this is one of the things we talked about. And it was about making sure that your information is correct and this is the sort of an easy at easy example to look at. It's like don't don't just be in a hurry to get the right to get the story that you don't get the facts right and and actually after an but then after after actually working in journalism for for a while I I found out that that is not how things actually work. It's still you got to be the first one to get the story out so So it it's not about and then you'll correct the facts later or or in the fine print at the bottom. It's it's the headline. That's going to grab people so just just so just so you know. The media hasn't changed much yet. It still get those headlines. Get the story out first and if you're wrong will correct it later. Yeah Chris is a big thing. Okay Bait has been around for ever not just Internet. You just call something different. The Click is coins of people paying the newspaper sales. Yes it said. He's weekly Ad Revenue. If they've earthier exaggerating or if it's just you know. I started calling it panic porn especially these days because holy crap but anyway this is. This is my aunt about the about the news industry our but I just wanted to put that out there like yeah. When I was studying journalism we talked about that. And there's a reason for that. So that Harry Truman. Nineteen forty nine obviously notable one because a lot of people do not expect him to win and actually it was also notable because his inauguration was the first ever be televised nationally off and only did he win but the next refi got watch on team he so next next. Lyric is Doris Day. The WHO is whose name might be recognizable but people may not realize who she was is actually Salai Rachel here real quick correction. I miss read when I was doing my research but Doris Day is no longer with us. She passed away in twenty nineteen. My mistake She was a merican singer actress and which is also a big animal welfare activist but She came in with her career began during was considered the later part of the Golden Age. Hollywood and her first notable she had actually been a singer for a long time performing The live performances with a groups and stuff and before long on the radio but then she ended up getting Low in Film Romance on the High Seas which actually came out in nineteen forty eight That it kind of launched her career so after that she was able gain more and more roles she actually ended up backing role with notable. But because that time you know musical comedies that sort of thing we're still thing and romance high-seas actually one of those. So sharply sings several songs in the movie But the noble one is a song called. It's magic which actually got her a number two hit song as a solo artist. You speak. It's Matt Rushton and you I. It's -Magine it'll go so those kind of things just kind of watched her into the public eye and then she would go on To have being a notable films such as calamity Jane in Nineteen fifty three off. Hitchcock's the man who knew too much into the six pillow. Talk in fifty nine and move over darling. Nineteen sixty three so her film career kind of tapered off after that She started doing some television She's she's so active to a point even even now since she's still with us she's ninety. She's still with us. So but yeah that forty eight forty nine was one her career kind of launched and her to the public eye as an actress. Not just a a single looking group than funnily enough as I was driving back from my chiropractor appointment earlier. I was listening to Clear Vivid Alan podcasts. And he is the episode of him talking to Tom. Hanks and you were talking about Tom. Hanks he's talking about how Alan Alda here remembers seeing on TV movie back when he was a youngster and he was talking about how he grew up on the movies of the fifties and stuff and he named trump actually Doris Day. And whatever movies. Don't don't eat the seas yeah. Don't eat the daisies the day so on Hank's outdoors day so I've never seen anything she's been in. Even though I I recognize her name looking after filmography there's nothing recognize romance on the high seas reading the plot. It seems kind of interesting about a husband and wife thinking that the other's cheating on the other militia mistaken identity of cruise ships next lyric is Red China which is interesting but yeah specifically for Nineteen forty-nine referring to essentially the end of the Chinese civil war Which was which had been fought off and on from nineteen twenty seven since one thousand nine hundred forty nine with breaks for other conflicts like World War One World War Two We got it. We gotta go deal with this other thing but I'm coming back home now. Remember that stick a pin in. It will go back to that later. So this was a civil war fought between the Bush of sorry the Kunming Tang also known as the Cam. T- led government of the Republic of China and the Communist Party of China. eventually The Communist Gingrich all of mainland China at Sandwich the People's Republic of China in nineteen forty nine with Chairman Mao Zedong announcing on the twenty eighth announcing in on the first of October about The establishment of the Pierre See The previous month in September Of before a big crowd at Beijing Square And the I guess quote unquote losing side again. Not Our opinions just decide. That did not win. apparently had to retreat to the island of Taiwan and take up living there but I assuming again billy Joel on speed dial. I'm suing that. He says he's calling it. Red China just because read throughout at least American history. We've read Oh what's the word? I'm looking for waited. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Equated read with communism it is. I mean you look at you look at Communist countries. I mean their their flags are red. Yes so Soviet flags red commies. China's flag is red nowadays. Yeah it's it was then it's just a little bit sin. Yes it's forty nine. But yeah the red at least as far as the Chinese concern. It's symbolizes revolution in their mind. But US Americans. We talked about the red scare. And all that. You've always been equated dead kind of with communism So yeah yeah assuming when he says Red China that's what he means Communist China but but Yeah Communist. Takes up too many syllables. Yes you have to also understand. The he's writing a song and and beats and and Rhythm HEADER ALTHOUGH BILLY JOEL. He actually as far as like the the musicality of the song he thinks. It sucks really well even at the lyrics but as a song. Take away the lyrics musically. He thinks it sucks. You know I think I think I think when you're an artist you're your own worst critic. Yeah I mean how many how many singers to hear them so give them so seeing playback at is true. But yeah yeah like. How many times did I listened to it on my ipod wandering around when I'm walking around campus to go to class and stuff a lot I I'm now I'm not embarrassed to admit it. Iras I listen to this a lot while I was classes back in the day. Oh Jeez I feel so anyway. I was ten when the song was released. It was six and does not exist. I was three school when exactly this song? Eighty nine fear I would was just being date wise. Yeah I was just growing just to grow you were at least thought of yes anyway Next up is Johnny Ray Johnny. Who Outside of the song? You may only recognize it if you know the Xi's midnight runner Song Common. Eileen dropped your one of the layer to understand what he's saying Johnny a was a singer Songwriter and pianist. He was Really popular for less than the nineteen fifties and is been cited for the leisure precursor to what will become rocking wall for his jazz and blues influenced music in his animated stage personality. Tony Bennett has called Rabi. Father of rock and roll and historians have noted him as a pioneering figure in the development of the SHAUNA was really interesting. Is Ray originally Raised in Dallas Oregon Dallas Texas Oregon. Ray was actually personally death but still went on to sing. Start seeing professionally at the age of fifteen when his family moved Portland at different radio? Stations and best. I can figure at least. According to Wikipedia as nineteen forty nine is when he supposedly scientists. I wreck contract with a label called K. E. H. I think is pronounced. Okay okay records which is actually like a subsidy subsidary branch off of Columbia. Although he wouldn't become popular until Nike he won their bouts But it's This is a bit conflicting though. Because according to Wikipedia that particular music labels actually discontinued in one thousand nine hundred forty six and wasn't revived until nineteen fifty one so it might be some a clean up needing needing to happen there on the media page so you know. If that's true. Would he actually signed a contract with a label? Technically demand exists screwed over. Not because he did end up releasing a a minor hit in nineteen fifty one with his first record. An RB number called Whiskey GIN and fifty two. He went really big with his double sided. Single cry and the little white cloud that cried Yours goodbye it's no secret. Read you feel bad if so I don't know if this is one of those that Billy Joel. Maybe got his son. Wong and didn't realize it Because the Lisa story that I heard back when I got this assignment back in in high school is that Billy Joel. Got The idea wrote the Lyrics Double Shit. You know double checked a few of them that he wasn't completely sure about for the most part road at all in order from memory. Wow suppose holly so. This may be one of those where you know. He just thought released as far as timing is actually correct. Yeah and Kinda hard to not as easy to check things back then but yes who knows. It's hard enough when I was in high school would have been even harder and ladies take that that what you I mean. It's still you know that time period ish is very correct late forties early fifties Next up is South Pacific which is a musical composer. Richard Rodgers with lyrics by Oscar Hammerstein And it premiered on Broadway in one thousand nine hundred forty nine a where. It ran for nine thousand nine hundred and twenty-five performances. Yes Oh it was the at the time. It was the longest running Broadway. Show up to that point. The previous show being rodgers and Hammerstein's Oklahoma as Rogers and Hammerstein skies. They were they were thing or two about writing musicals motivated and yeah but so do need because no what the plot of South Pacific it just know is something to do with World War Two. That's that's really Iraq has facing. Yeah Ed washing a man right out of my hair. Oh yeah the recognizable songs. I'm GONNA wash that right Outta my hair. I'm GONNA wash that man right out of my game. I'm GONNA wash that man right out of my hair. I'm GONNA wash that man right out of my head and send them on his an bowling away Batman right out on my own going away that man right out my office. Lonely man right out of So the plot is based actually on a book called Tales of the South Pacific written by James a Michener. It's a Pulitzer Prize. Winning Book and it is actually actually took elements of several of the stories and combined together to their plot At the time Rogers and Hammerstein thought that they could write a musical based on the book that would be financially successful and at the same time and a strong progressive message on racism The plot centers on an American nurse station on the South Pacific island during World War Two. He falls in love with a middle aged ex patriot. French plantation owner but struggles to accept his mixed race children in a secondary romantic plot There is a romance between a US. Lieutenant and a young Tonkinese. I think I'm saying that right Woman apparently Tongkah Tonka thereabouts. It's the Red River Delta region of northern Vietnam. So she's Vietnamese essentially and explores his fears of the social consequences. Should he marry her So yeah there's romance and Angst I guess and the whole plot about race and that sort of thing so Which did end up winning the Pulitzer Prize? For Best Drama. In Thousand Nine Hundred. Eighty and one ten Tony awards including best musical score and Best Liberato and there's movie adaptation and It's been revived on Broadway and There's even see it's not the actual musical but one of those where they have people sing the songs I guess and do some of the acting. But there's not like the costumes and the sets. I'm not sure. What the proper terminology for those types of performances That Akon clips from Lewis. I don't know what year it's from but it's Some Guy I don't recognize playing the part of the French plantation owner and Reba. Mcentire playing the part of his love interest. The nurse ahead Rogers and Hammerstein Body work with. This is one that I'm not very familiar with except for. I'm GonNa wash that man right at that same here like. That's that's one that might might might theater nerd friends. No but I'm just like I don't so sorry guys that and some chanted evening that's like another well known the several known songs. Kinda to recognize that song title all right on to the last entry. Which is Walter Wind? Chill and this is another one kind of up there with Johnny Ray. Where like I'm not entirely sure how he fits into this. Particular time period Walter winchell was a newspaper gossip gossip columnists and radio news commentator He originally was a Vaudeville performer and then He began his Newspaper for a Broadway reporter critic and columnist for the New York tabloids. He was best known for his innovative style of Gossipy Staccato News. Briefs Jokes and Jazz Age Slang. So if you've ever watched like a movie or TV show and it's like the forties and you get audio of someone on the radio and it's like this just in from La Blah Blah Blah Blah. You know kind of that fast. Talking like reporter type. That's Kinda. What's amazing to Walter Winchell. That's what he sounded like. On the radio end leaving synonymous South America by Short Wave Action United States. Navy planes have sunk or damaged twenty one Japanese ships control Radio Franck state of just a few minutes ago that it will shortly broadcast very important. Announcements Talk Radio Dispatch from dated Monday. May the seven three Paul and Allied Health has reached the patriotic army and the Czechoslovak capital. Just go out. Forty eight United Nations represented at the World Security Conference in the city by the Golden Gate. This just in from the Boston bracing laugh that fast. Talking RADIO ANNOUNCER TYPE. Type Voice But apparently he found He had a habit of reporting both real hard news and embarrassing stories about famous people G. Yeah we do this. Mike exploiting exploiting exceptionally wide circle of contacts. Personally the entertainment world. And then in. The prohibition era underworld then law enforcement in politics. Oh Gosh he will not for trading gossip sometimes in return for his silence and admired. I think I think I want to see a movie about his life but I don't think anyone would make it because there's probably done it has yes yes. There is a movie about his life by H B o called wind chill in nine hundred ninety eight and it stars Stanley. Tucci wintel Walter. You become the most popular newspaper. Calm the country. It's good to be seen. Your broadcast will be a news report with a gorgeous clamorous. Isn't that would gossip all about just that. It is in five countries congressman and all from the same. That Corinne was face. Fear coming you stay away from politics dipped gossip. The story never had Shakespeare with spit on Shakespeare with shake his hand on my column showed you into office in my column. Can show you out again when show your devils no? I'll give me a regards. The next time I see. Perhaps that second slot is going to suck in count on them. I think completely man. He's Hitler he's only Hitler did not. Nobody can't be the event at the same time. Got To choose you will on such a no one even. Yes Mr Visit. Our country must take to task the tyranny that just rollings from the top down very good instead of them. It's great steadily to which will okay. I guess I need to look this up because well that that's that's that's something you're the guy you're the guy who who invented gossip columns because everyone's scared of you. Yes right. I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE. How exactly he sits into. Nineteen in forty nine in one thousand nine hundred fifty if he hadn't wasn't notorious enough already in one thousand nine hundred fifty more notoriety for good or for bad by becoming a outspoken supporter of Joe. Mccarthy's thing a communism you. Joe McCarthy is an within campaign Which kicked off essentially nineteen fifty The other thing I could find is in forty eight forty nine. There was a another columnist by the name of Drew Pearson. Who apparently he was buddies with wind. Chill because they were the similar reporting styles. So they were they were friends. And supposedly he may have worked alongside Pearson when Pearson decided targets President Truman circling back around President Chins. Then Secretary of defense a man named James Forrestal apparently forestall and Truman did not have the best relationship and when it looked like Truman was going to lose to Thomas. Dewey in the forty election supposedly forestall went behind. Truman's back met with Dewey and essentially got a verbal promise from Dui that do we keep him on Secretary of Defense. Once one man somehow your sin found out wrote a column about it and along with the other tensions between Truman and forest doll and nearly four stalls to climb the house because of the stress. I Guess Truman ended up asking him to resign so he had to resign from his position. As Secretary of defense then apparently went to a hospital because he was not in the best place physically or mentally healthwise and then He. He died under mysterious circumstances. So that silly thing I could I could possibly wintel is connected issue and forty-nine ask is if you've had any hand with Pearson's decision to out for all for quote unquote conspiring with Dewey. During the presidential election season again I interpret that you will be one of those that Billy Joel. Just remembers windchill being somewhat notable in the headlines often enough during that time period that you know he wrote them there and last but not least is Joe Dimaggio. Which even if you're not a sports fan Most people I think recognize shows a name also known as the Yankee Clipper or jolting Joe. You ever heard yeah. This is robin sensitive Chef de So he was a baseball player. He was a center fielder who played his entire thirteen year. Career in Major League Baseball for the New York Yankees He actually made his Major League debut in nineteen thirty six for the Yankees And at that point the Yankees and not been to the world series since one thousand nine hundred eighty two But after that they won the next four fall classics and over the course of his career. Maggio led the Yankees to nine World Series Championships in a September nineteen forty-nine issue of Sport Magazine Hank Greenberg said that Dimaggio Covered so much ground in the center field that the only way to get a hit against the Yankees was to hit more. Joe Is But what's really notable or I. Guess what's likely what Joel is referring to. Nineteen forty nine is in February of nineteen forty. Nine Joe Maggio signed a contract with the Yankees worth one hundred thousand dollars. Which in today's money is slightly over a million dollars? Contract was for seventy thousand dollars plus bonuses and he became the first baseball player to break a one hundred thousand dollars in so that is Not Bad yeah added not bad no not bad money Yeah Lounge Sherwood so yep so. There was our first foray into A. We didn't start the fire. If you've ever been curious about the meanings behind all these others the rapid fire lyrics and why it was written it all to that kid who twenty one and said nothing ever happened in the fifties. Technically onto the fiftieth it. That was just forty nine. Well yes but you know. It's kind of like I don't know I've just I've I know. People who grew up in the fifties and his colleague Did you know that we had to do? Do Nuclear Bomb drills dive under your desk and I'm like that really wouldn't do anything and they're like yeah we know but anyway. So we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA. We're going to dip into this every once in a while. 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She just did a thing of soaps for if anybody's been binging the tiger king on Netflix. She made it so that I thought of that. I've seen the means NORDEA. What about? I haven't watched it but I know even my chiropractor asked because he's always. He's a big nerd too so he's always asking like what do you watch and lady reading that sort of thing. And he asked if I had watched tiger king and I'm like no but I knew who he was before because the guy has dabbled in politics and I think it was a two thousand twelve election season. He dabbled in politics. Ran Up through like primary season not actual election day but he ran through the primary season and he was mentioned. I believe on an episode of John. All last week tonight with John All are so I knew who he was back then in the two thousand sixteen election but because he made it he made a bit of a splash for himself just because of who he is and his personality but he did not get very far But yeah so I if I can flying if I can find that that clip if I could find that episode Cajal or they put all this stuff on Youtube if I can find it I will link to it in the show so you people can watch it so you can get idea what you may be in for if you decide to launch thing on weird. It's like all these things just randomly start popping up and I'm like what in the heck is this now stuck it's been plex. People Start Ido. I started. Well I looked into it and I'm like I think I'll skip that you will enjoy. Yeah Yeah I actually like I am like it was it was like just one little posted to tiger king in like. I've got exam without thinking. Kind of like parody of the Lion King those real guy. He has a a Y. A big cat rescue. 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Honey and Roses Coffee Company 079 CCCRS

CROSS COUNTRY COFFEE ROADSHOW

57:23 min | 7 months ago

Honey and Roses Coffee Company 079 CCCRS

"Country carthy roller welcome to season three of the season. Three of the cross country coffee hoedown and welcome to the cross country. Coffee roadshow season three that on the road again. The virtual edition with your hosts. Dan and linda gary re on the road in the first two seasons. We were on the road. You don't remember being on the road. It's been so long. Would you like some gingko need some refresher course in what the cross country coffee roadshow was all about. We traveled cross country two times. We travel across the country. One two three four times times wants to find the coffee shops interview. Epic shops and rosters and the first season was route. Sixty six in the second season was pacific coast highway and we may be one of the last actual road adventures that gets to travel that whole pacific coast highway. But that's a story for another day. Welcome the season to our virtual road trip. This season will be going across the country and will be interviewing remotely now that presents. Its own set of challenges. But we're working around that it's working really. Well we start off with honey and roses coffee this year and of course their name says everything coffee honey and roses honey. Hunting roses coffee company online marketplace. What why would we have them and not a true coffee store. 'cause they're not really a coffee star. No but if you want coffee honey this is the place where you gotta go and if you want roses honey i know where to get those to. You can get them in honey and rosa's not yet that's true not yet but who knows the way this company's growing you may be able to get them by the time we released this episode. So you're going to be able to have some some great coffee from honey and roses. The nice part about all of our roasters. This year is that you're going to be able to get their coffee ship to you directly and whether you go directly through honey and roses or through one of the other coffee roasters that we have on the show this year. You're going to find that you're gonna get some of the best coffee in the entire world truly. We are going around the world with our coffee. Podcast this year and it's ethically sourced and all of their roasters promote sustainability at least at honey and roses. We are trying also to not only get the ethically source but also that sustainability component because we are huge fans as all of our listeners. Know from the last couple of seasons. We're huge fan of small businesses. In all of our roasters. This year are going to be in that small business category. You know honey and roses actually takes the road travel part out if your coffee novice and you don't know what you want. You don't have to travel. You just go to your computer look upon and roses coffee company and you just select the roast that you want and if you don't know what you want you go on their little help list you're doing curation through honey and roses right you you get to say what you'd like and if you don't know what you want the roasters are going to tell you well know there roasters will help you define what coffee it is. You wanna drink. They will help you. Define your taste. Profile of choices our. That's exactly right. This is a match made in heaven and full disclosure this season. Hunting roses will be one of our sponsors. So this week were We ordered from honey and roses but then we order coffee. Oh no did. I catch napping what what we ordered from from honey and roses. They have a plethora of sweets and treats and we ordered. We ordered the lemon cake. Which was only god to diet was that was mind blowing and my my favorite locale alot of course and my favorite are the brass spoons. You'll hear more about these brass bones but we've got him stirring her coffee right now. Sounds like kala myself to dinner. Andy the real mccoys talking about sustainability. I'll you want me to talk about stability talk about sustainability. Is that a direct order ceramic mugs. Thought you were going to say serenity now serenity. Now yep you'll get that when you order their ceramic monks and you can take your ceramic mug an your breasts bowed going to any of your favorite purveyor of coffee. Show off your where people will follow no more trash on the streets dot. Well i want. I want to Just have you go in and show off your wares to our our local coffee roaster here. So we'll we will travel again. The world will be in chicago. We will be in new york. We will be in los angeles. We will be in washington. State will be in wisconsin with fabulous roster as well so you guys sit back and enjoy. Because we're we're going on a road trip virtually skep- on your headphones grab your coffee. And let's go and our next guest. Joan la our the founders of honey and rosa's coffee company if you've been stuck at home drinking coffee purchased at your local grocery store or maybe even driving thirty miles to your local roasters. Was the perfect solution. Honey and roses. Coffee company is an online marketplace that is bringing the best small batch coffee from around the united states roasting it fresh and delivering it straight to your door. Bring the coffee shop into your home. They've combined their world travels and abroad a unique perspective to the company. Is they each experience. Coffee and copy shops around the world in addition to their currently fifty roasting partners. They also have a were line of ceramic reusable mugs. Cutlery and french presses to complete your copy experience their products and roasting partners emphasize organic sustainable coffee practices and ethical trade to give you the full coffeehouse experience and ella partner with small local businesses. To bring you our typical sweets and treats everything from chocolate cookies cakes and granola. So what are you waiting for go to. Www dot honey and roses. Coffee dot com. Now joe ella welcome to the cross country. Coffee roadshow joe and ella from honey and roses. Welcome guys are you having us you bet and we have nothing but coffee stores on the road show so roasters etc. Why do we have company named honey and roses. Not only on our initial podcast for season three. But we have we have you honey. Hunting roses sponsors as well. So tell us a little bit. How did you guys connect with us here in the roadshow. What we do is hunting raises coffee. Is we try to provide a platform online for our customers to to basically be able to access the best races that the us has to offer on that. Say find out. Kind of based on that preferences will any of our fifty plus raced to offer order stuff. Try it and just kind of cycle through a little bit. That's really what we're trying to do. And recently we sort of pivoted a little bit more into really trying to bring the coffee shop sort of hyme. So it's it's not just coffee that you can buy. But it's all say craft baked goods Home weather that sort of decorative and everything that you would get if you to actually physically go to a coffee shop which obviously especially now a lot of people are not able to do right right so when when we talk about roasters how did you. How did you go about getting the roasters who are in your organization your stable. That's interesting in the beginning. I think it was a lot of. I actually credit joe for this. It was really joe. you know. Virtually knocking on doors kind of sending a bunch of emails. I think he called quite a few people. Getting you know. Good amount of people ignoring us and know responses and i really think it was the beginning sort of a hassle. Because you had. We didn't have a company. We just had a name and a website. And i can approve now. I think people do recognize us in the industry and our platform. And you know. I wouldn't say that everyone's heard of us but people have definitely said. Oh i've seen that. I've heard that. And i think we have a little bit more credibility so now a lot of times roasters approach us and that's leads me to the actually first question is how did you get the name honey and roses. I've had more comments on that right away. And they're like honey and roses and that has to do with coffee. Well the whole title hunting roses coffee but what. How did you get that time. It's funny because it's probably a really awful name for a coffee company. I think you know. Joe and i had a really hard time coming up with the name. We have very different opinions about pretty much everything and it was really hard to come up with something that we felt. We both liked and then on the flip side that there's like domain available and a lot of pretty much almost every name that you think would be unique has been taken so i remember. It's true it's wild like we would come up with joseph. This is it and we would like look it up on a domain search and it was taken. And then you'd google the website and there wasn't a website and really who owns this. Where do you live. But basically i remember i was london and i was sipping a honey and rose law and i remember. I had always had this weird thing with names. That were something and something. I don't know if it's the best business idea. Because i know joe and i will call people all the time. Now it'll be like hi. This is ellen from honey and roses coffee and it's an incredibly long mouthful of and am but at the time. That was something that i really liked. And i just remember hunting and roses honey roses. Okay like joe's british. This this works you know in the name was available. And i remember. I didn't even tell. Joe and i just bought the domain and then i message him and i was like to like this name and he was like well and i was like you like it right. And he's like yeah. It's fine perfect. I'll buy the main impressed to you. Refresh you actually confessed. The normally it takes me publicly. Shame use the. I live but i want to be honest. This is the way to start. A good relationship is to be honest. It's a cleansing of the soul. Well since you disagree on most everything how did you guys end up traveling the world together and was coffee involved at first. And how did you meet joe. First of all i want to say. We didn't travel the world together. We have we ever travelled together. Thank god we have very different now. We we really say ella. And i mean eller is my one of my wife's best friends and we just kind of ran into each other and this really stemmed because we'd both traveled independently and one of the things that we had started looking at and talking about was. Oh this is great coffee show in this spot in this city like i remember telling me about a coffee shop near the gum wool in seattle which is a horrific place. I mean the coffee shop is great. The gum would is gusting. Oh it's horrible and you can smell it from like a block away. It's like you get that kind of stale mint smell but that was how we kind of ended up coming together and just sort of the From the business standpoint from the coffee standpoint. And i think one of the reasons we ended up in business together is just because we disagree on almost everything we have very different skill sets and quite honestly. I think as difficult as that can be. Sometimes it's it's conducive to success. Yeah i also thank you know kind of going back to the first initial question about sort of how he met you know i remember i would constantly been friends with his wife since i was fourteen years old and so i would. I had a key to their place. I would go over to their house and she would always be like at appointments or doing things. So i would just sit and hang out and joe was always there and i think we wanted to do we both were interested in a place in our lives in starting a business and i think that was the first thing for a long time. We were brainstorming ideas and we had many different ideas and then joe. I remember sitting on the couch. We're eating vietnamese food and just turns to me and was like. Do you want to do a coffee platform and i just was like ok. Sure and that was sort of you. Know i think the evolution and then i think it evolved kind of quicker than both of us anticipated and i think we could probably go ahead and do just one episode on the failed ideas that you guys came up with right. You're going to series right now man. Yeah so you you. Both traveled independently. But you both traveled the world. Yeah yeah okay so so you both came out with different experiences but you both ended up with one thing in common and that is sipping coffee around the world and how delightful that would be. Bring that back here. You know more than even that. I think when you're traveling you really. You know i mean. I think joe and i share similar interests in the way we travel we might be going for different purposes. I might be going for photography. And he exploring. Joe likes to go fishing but we both really it's true. He went to cambodia to go fish. I don't know many people who do that. But you know when you wake up in a new place whether it's cambodia or thailand or spain or columbia one of the first things you do. Is you discover that local coffee shop. You know you wanna walk out your door. Sort of get a glimpse into what life is like. I think as people were very fascinated with other cultures in places and you almost want to experience what it would be like if what if you lived in peru and your life and where you get your coffee and then you know as a day evolves. Maybe you'll go grab a bite to eat and check out a little bakery and you know. Try some local pastry a native to that place. So i think always that was something that was really important to us alongside that i think the idea of like souk or market traveling to a country wandering around like a local market and bringing home. You know maybe a vase or a bottle or mug or something from that place. So i think that was sort of what we were coming into this with and that was something we really wanted to recreate and i think when we decided to do coffee it was important for us to sort of focus on not only the countries of origin that this coffee is coming from but also you know. The roasters are from different. Cities are roasters in austin. Have a different influence. Somebody in seattle and somebody'll hieaux. And i think that was really important to us. Bringing their stories and their journey where they sourced the coffee and the experiences they have living in a city in the united states that are all very different to our customers and then them getting to experience. You know what it's like to drink coffee and be transported to these different places and experience that culture and local you know ideal from the comfort of their own home. That is our podcast actually. That's that's the roadshow podcast. Because we've been travelling the country up until the pandemic is you are aware up until the pandemic we've been cross the country a couple of different times and And it's finding those individual coffee stores in getting those people story in fact under our roadshow logo as our listeners. Everybody has a story to tell. And joe a big stereotype. Here your english. You're not supposed to like coffee so tell me your first taste and sip. What is it that got you hooked about coffee. I actually i mean eissa. Drink coffee the tillerson. And you're right growing up. I was very much the tea drinker and stella and often. When i need to tighten it down a little bit but i think i had a friend in college. He was a barista and he would slip me kind of he would slip me some quality coffee like under you know. I'd say in the cafe that he worked gotta have his bosses and listening to this but he would slip me these he. There's a statue of limitations. Probably he would of. Just keep me dice with coffee while i was working on my dissertation or whatever. I was writing whatever paper. I was reading at the time and that was really how i discovered really good quality craft coffee and then when i moved to the states i moved to new york. City and oversee new york city is a melting pot and there is a hell of a lot of coffee available in new york and a lot of really quality writers and when i travelled the us as well. Which i've been doing for for years. It was always always find myself. Landing on these. These little craft coffeeshops mostly independent. I would wait. Find myself kind of drew into these places. Just to take a break. When i was exploring and i think that was. Just what got me. Hooked on coffee in general and now you know. I'm i'm a self professed coffee snow but in the coffee you can get in the apple. A certain well-known chains just doesn't cut it for me anymore and a. How 'bout you. I actually think joe is more well traveled in the us. Than i am. But i think going to a new city. I really remember going to san diego and discovery was one of my first trips in the. Us discovering this local coffee shop that had really delicious coffee and sort of that experience of you know again. Just like what. I said getting to experience what life was like in that place and i remember that roaster in particular really inspired the idea of. I wish i could bring this home with me. And i remember buying a few bags and you know. Then they run out. And i honestly you probably could've ordered it directly from the roster but i just felt like there wasn't a place where you could really get the sense of that roster and that city online and you know i was living outside of manhattan and i was driving forty five minutes to go to a roaster in queens to buy coffee every week and that was really annoying and i was like there has to be. There has to be a better way to do this. I mean honestly. It was just so i could make it easier for me. Now just cutting. Yeah well good reason to start. I wanna call me but you you kind of skipped over your your first taste and and how you got hooked into coffee. How did how did that happen. Yeah so my mom definitely gave me coffee at a young age which i enjoyed but nobody in my house was really that sophisticated in the coffee world and i remember. I remember drinking espresso. I think that was sort of how i got onto craft coffee because my aunt drink espresso grandmother drank espresso. And i really wasn't a big fan of drip coffee and i think getting into espresso at a very young age. I mean i had to have been fourteen. Fifteen which may be young I think i really wanted to try better coffee. And then once. I started traveling. I think that i was exposed to these really great craft roasters in a way that i probably wouldn't have ever known about so i think out having latinos and espresso at a young age sort of helped me get into the whole coffee world a little bit. Maybe sooner but you know. I won't lie. I definitely used to drink really. I'm not gonna name names but brands that i you know. Look down upon now. And i just didn't know anything else you just didn't know. I don't think the craft coffee movement had really exploded when joe and i were in that age when we were trying coffee for the first time. I just don't think it really was thing whether in the states or in england now it's so prevalent and as far as the the experience of the coffee shop experience that you guys are trying to create so you've got not just the coffee but then you've got a number of other things on your website etc that you're selling And wondering if you talk a little bit about how you got to chocolates and see. You've got a One year dear to our hearts here in wisconsin from spooner and tell us a little bit about the utensils etc that you've got going on source so with coffee in general. I think neither of us really anticipated the evolution of how we were gonna create this company and how it would become bringing the coffee shop home. I think with covert and joe can offer this a little bit more. You know that really changed. Everyone's plans this year. And i think we had originally partnered with a few scotty and chocolate company is very early on. That was all joe's doing. And i think people were really into that and when cova happened people started messaging us saying. Do you sell their cookies. Do you sell chocolate like. Can i buy a different flavor and then joe and i really thought to ourselves. There isn't a place where you can buy you know. Craft artisan made chocolate baked goods and have them delivered straight to your door. Sure you can buy them from the person but you have to know about them so we thought you know why not bring these other things home with us for me. It was say icy home about four times a year to the uk. And i think win. It happened and we couldn't. I couldn't do that anymore. My mom in a she was selling me. It was sending me. She and she was sending me cap packages and it was just. I like the fact that you corrected selling to sending well. Unless you're selling you care packages to make a profit avenue. I mean she she. She gave me life. I couldn't hold it responsible for it. But she was like she sits thought that to send me calf is just to sort of you know. Try and keep everybody's heads up you know it was. Nobody could travel it was it was just twenty. Twenty was a really sucky. Let's be honest and that kind of got me thinking and you know like said we had customers reaching out saying oh is there this flavor biscardi. Oh i tried this really amazing cookie company an equally to that. You had a barn. Sherve of people are suddenly baking and suddenly launching these companies that were that were from that literally from their kitchen and doing some really amazing things like we've got some week wasn't really crazy cookies on the website. The basically it's another stuffed inside a cookie and a low of about five thousand calories each but they're they're really cool the cookie version of a duck in is what you're saying. Exactly that's that's a great analogy. That's exactly what it is and we as we started sort of explore this and speak to these people and get these recommendations we just realized. We'll hey you know only about saying okay. Well this this cookie box cookies ago. Great with my craft coffee. It was also about well as of dodgy. Requirements ella for example is gluten free. And it was really difficult to find something online where you search for and filter by your you'll requirements whether you want something sweet shook. Let's see whether you wanted. Cookies versus is chocolate itself and there was just nothing there and say we back in october. When we launched sweets and treats it was about kind of giving that the same level of of choice and flexibility that we give our coffee customers for basically the thing that goes with their coffee whether it was some fancy of gluten-free bread which is delicious or whether it was some really outrageous and frankly the most american thing i've ever seen Tha dock in cookies will call them. You know it was just. It was just about giving people that choice. The you might get when you're sort of browsing a supermarket except you know that's prepackaged stuff this is all high made straight to you so curated a process is what you have on your and we were always very interested in doing something in that realm. You know that's sort of what the homeware came about. Was joe and i wanted to create something sustainable. You couldn't just buy online. That you know was something you would enjoy with your coffee. You know whether a room usable mugs or cutlery or things like that. It's really important for us to provide more value than just a bag of coffee. And i think kind of creating this marketplace quote unquote. You can't see my air close but like this. You know crafted soup or this market. You discover all these really great local product supporting all kinds of really cool small business and then also designing our own things as well so i think it was just sort of a natural progression in evolution of our base idea. Well i'm i'm a huge fan. One stop shopping and honey and roses. Has it all and your spoons. Tell me about your spoons. because i'm in love what your spoons and your your monks. I got a lot of the inspiration from the mug and the spoons when i was in bali Well no i guess it was a few months before cove it and i remember i went to this local coffee shop and they had this really cute mug like a to go cup and it had a little leaf on it. It was obviously very different than our arlene. But i remember thinking this is so cute. I wish i could buy this and take this home with me. I would love to have a reasonable mug white or clean with this really cool on it and it didn't exist and i was looking online. I was like how can we don't sell this. This would be such a great idea. So that was sort of how the logo and the mug idea came about. So when i got back to the states i started researching companies. That were sustainable. And while i was in bali i had heard about frank. Green which is a Basically a sustainable eco friendly manufacturer in australia. They also now have the production in the united states so we contacted a few different suppliers at the time and kind of saw who we felt like had the best sustainable. And that's how we kind of decided on co branding with this mug company and the spoons. The the reason. I got the idea for the students was also when i was in bali. Every restaurant you go to has a pineapple spoon all different styles and shapes but pretty much very similar to what we have. It's a thing there. I don't really know what it originates from. But i guess they are mostly manufactured there and it's part of the island's trend so when i came back i started researching online different suppliers that could make pineapple spins and that's sort of how the evolution of our spoons came about. We started with with just the pineapple spoon. And then we sort of evolved into other design for our listeners. You are not talking about. A spoon may not a pineapple. You're talking about a decorative spoon that looks got a pineapple on it right. Yeah it's a brass. And they're made in india really great ego friendly all of that and they make these beautiful brass cutlery and they have designs on them. And some of them have pineapples and some of them have moons and sunflowers and coffee leafs and things like that are designed. We designed Some unique ones ourselves. That will be coming out soon. I'm wondering if you guys could talk a little bit about that sustainability. I now have a better sense of how you get your products because as you travel you saw these things and said yeah i want to be able to have that on our website and build a cell that how did the sustainability come about. And who's the primary driver Joe thinking question so l. is definitely the designer in terms of the products. What we what we stalk. That's that's very much. Her area of expertise. I think the sustainability piece is just something that we both support and you know as we. The reasonable cops are great example. Because i worked to new city. I still i suppose technically work in new york city. Will they not for a little while but you get into this habit of dropping by the craft coffee shop and picking up your coffee and getting a paper mug and then throwing that paper mug away and there's just so much unnecessary waste. There's so much garbage in new york. I think that also. I'm sure joe. Can you know it's like you just see so much crap on the street and i'm like why can't you just recycle that or put that in a trash can and you see so many to go containers to go cops. I think that's a huge thing in new york as much as i love. New york city is a dirty city. There's anyone that lives here is gonna is not going to disagree with that and especially when you go out so chicago in the mid west. It's which is comparable in many ways except against the pizza argument. But that's a that's a different different different thing. We don't want to start a war munster listeners. That's not absolutely notice that it's very clean and and we we sort of realized that. Obviously there's a lot of dry for sustainability across the world in many places across the states. Australia's very big on but also for for me personally. It was how making small changes that really affects. How convenient something is for you. But knowing that you're not creating this waste as well knowing the creating two three coffee cups a day that going in the trash because you just have you just have one or you reading your cutlery and that was just something to me as such a small change that you you know how such a big impact when it's replicated by so many people heard of the design inspiration behind the cop sort of like i said when i came up with the idea you know bringing a nicely designed sleek effective cup to your coffee shop now again. This is sort of been tabled for from kovic perspective. Because i know people can't bring a reasonable coffeeshops now but before that it really you feel like special. You feel like you're doing something i know. It sounds silly but you know you have this really cute. It's almost like an accessory as well and it looks cute and you know it's it's effective and so there was something to that and i wanted to create something that was sleek and not you know too busy and not too over the top and you know something that you could enjoy like an accessory with your coffee. It's interesting because you know that kind of thing when other people see you bring in your own cop copper. Your own Reusable container. I think it tends to spread I think people see that. I always think of the seinfeld episode. Where mr pitt started cutting up his snickers bar and the next thing you know. It was a trend in new york. I mean people were cutting up their stickers by so somebody sees somebody recycling in a different way. They say oh i could do that. And and that's the influence and we talk about influencers now on social media but influencing is also kind of in our day to day events as well and and we're wondering how you guys were influenced in your life. Who are the big influences that shaped your life or how that played into your current status. I probably have slightly different perspective being from across the pond but my parents have been always been a huge factor in my life and we didn't go out with a lot of money a lot of people who grew up where i grew up in fact the vast majority never leave. What town did you grow up in. I actually grew up in a tiny village. That doesn't even have streetlamps. But i grew up. Just outside of the biggest city is called norwich and many people. Don't leave and that's the thing really a lot of people. Don't leave and they settle down her family's very young and i was looking to expand my horizons and i never really wanted to stay home and my parents always supported me and they were very happy to sort of support me doing whatever whatever i wanted. As far as as long as it was on the right side of the tracks they speak and you know just from a coffee perspective not to publicly shame her but my mother drink some truly awful coffee and i i haven't yet been able to convert her you know that's that's i'm working on it but Yeah we're not we're not So that was kind of an irony. When i got into the coffee. Business the She sort of inspired me in a roundabout way to to proceed up. Cheeser brown water drinker. Yeah that's being nice. My mom was like that too but we converted her now. She's like a her own coffee snob. So so do you have. Who is your biggest influence. There was too big influences in my life. I think one of them as a child. My parents i grew up right outside of new york. City my parents you know never really travel. My mom traveled with them but my father never traveled but they were really big into the street food and you know i remember as a three year old. My mom taking me to chinatown taking the chinatown to get like soup dumplings or sitting on the floor at eating afghani food or eating lot of really strange street food. There was something about going to these unique especially at a different time in new york city. These really awesome restaurants small businesses and kind of seeing how somebody can take the place of origin may be. You know it's shanghai. And they're coming. And making some unique dumpling. And then they're basically recreating that experience for you and your eating that awesome food and you feel like you're transported to that place so i think there's something about that and growing up eating a lot of really cool food traveling. You know an hour and a half to go get moroccan food and sitting some crazy restaurant. My daddy's to find these places back before google maps and all of that so i have no idea how would i swear. I have no idea where he would find these places. But you take us some of the strangest places. And i think that sort of inspired this experience of trying something in sort of experiencing different life or culture out of that item so i think some of that really heavily influenced me and going off that i worked in the restaurant business for eight years and you know you see a lot of things. It's a hard industry and it also really shapes you and sort of changes your perspective on business and what a meal can bring to someone and the impact that having one meal and a great restaurant like you remember that forever. So i think those two experiences even though that sounds like. They're all food related which they pretty much were. I think that's helped evolve. My idea of what i wanted to do. The exploratorium childhood the adventure. Exactly so we'll start with you l. a. Can you can you share with us. Something that most people may not know about you. God rate when we started the company right around the time that we started the company. I got very suddenly really sick. And the only reason i bring that up is because i'd say a good amount of time in the very early stages of the company i was you know in and out of the hospital and i was really sick and i think that helped the company evolve in a way that it wouldn't have if i hadn't had that experience because i would have suddenly quit my job my other job so i was able to spend all my time working on my phone because i wasn't able to get up and do anything else so because i was stuck at home and i couldn't do anything and i wasn't well enough to do anything else. I spent twelve hours a day working on this business. And i think that really helped shape sort of how the company took off because they had so much more time. And you know. Joe has a time job and so it really provided us. This opportunity that i don't know thinking back. I had continued working a fulltime job working forty or sixty hours a week if we would have ever been able to do as much as we have in the last year two years year and a half so it's kind of an interesting experience and i think you also when you're very very sick you've gotten this mentality that you don't know what tomorrow you know. Are you going to be there tomorrow. What's happening and so. I think that pushed me even harder and so i was constantly trying to come up with ideas and i would be texting. Joe let's do this from a hospital bed and he's like okay and so. I think that really helped this company in a weird way. I don't think about that. Oftentimes i don't think anyone knows the the arrow that makes you turn right or left. Yeah how about you. Is there something we don't know about you. I have friends and a low of i. Don't wanna call them strange places in america. 'cause they're not strange but for somebody coming from from outside from somebody coming from outside the country. I've got a lot of friends in in parts of the states. You really wouldn't expect say some of my best friends right in wyoming and denver colorado and You know i've been to a bunch of states the the A lot of my friends are here. Haven't done it whether that's Isn't it whether that's a fun fact. But it's certainly something that i i would say. A lot of people would not know about me. Well we the roadshow believe everybody has a story to tell. I'm wondering if you've got a story you could share with us does not have to be coffee. Related something about your life or norwich or anything that you'd like to share. That is a great question. I'm gonna say something that. I don't know if people know maybe people know joe while do but i don't think he can say history after but nobody works as hard as joe. I just wanna say that. And i never compliment him but he works sixteen hour days every hour that he is awake. He is working and he is so dedicated. And you know. I think you know he obviously came here from another country and he works his ass off at his other job and he's very well established in that position as well and i think people don't realize because he jokes around and he's funny and all these things how hard and how dedicated is an how loyal he has to whatever project he's working on. I just wanted to introduce because he couldn't think of anything. You just made me think of one that the people don't know about both of us. Which is i mean. They will do if they listen to this to oversee the full episode. We're not married. Most nice people and in fact you know ninety nine percent of people including people in restaurants when we were able to eat together before it even if my actual wife is eller and i tend to bicker indefinitely and we've been married. Everybody kind of assumes that we're we're married you know we're actually we're we're actually on the it comes. Up is a bit of a shock to a lot of our All vendors when they send me something to be photographed in allah a. Does all of our photography. And i sort of reached back out. And i'm like oh no you. Can you send it to this address instead please. Today this is one of our roasters today was like oh did your husband get the coffee. What are you talking. I mean you've known me for like a year. They should know. I'm not gonna call them out. Glad glad we have clarified even though it's and we have had no bickering on this. We haven't had to be referees. Once since you started in an hour and you'll you'll see it so joe. How about the story to tell you. Have one for us. When i first moved to new york. I didn't have any friends here. I met a met a bunch of people and one one thing i've always loved about. Americans is it's very easy to make friends and one night and it's legally coffee relates that actually which is always fun. Because there was a speakeasy in the basement of a coffee shop in manhattan. And you know. I'm not gonna pretend i hadn't had a fair amount to drink at the time but you know we. We visited this ball. We visited speakeasy and on the way out. Somebody happens the cellar door and it just caught me wrong right on the top of the top of the heads such i was i was bleeding and i i needed stitches oversee we jump in a cab and we get to the hospital and i'm kind of bleeding everywhere i get rush through. Get a c. Tea's gone and then. I'm waiting for them to staple my head up and as As we're doing this security suddenly appeared. And i'm kind of thinking one is happening like i. I've done anything wrong of insurance so then going to remove me for that. And then i turn around. And i was quite an attractiveness and it turns out the the reasons security had been cold is because my friend who was being very supportive by accompanying. The cab was trying to up the child this particular earth while she was busy trying to handle handle any e awful patients on a saturday night ended up getting thrown thrown out and i ended up walking. Hi i'm on my own. I had no idea they had speakeasy. He's in a in a coffee stores in new york. I think there's the stories is in the speakeasy and inside the coffee store. That kind of is intriguing to me. It's actually quite a few. There's actually one. This is really cool. This is so unrelated. But there's one in boston that it's a it's a data and inside. The bodega is Shoe store and you would never know you have to like knock and say a certain code and then the doors open up and there's this like sneaker shop and then if you know that the sneaker shop there's a coffee shop in the back of that it's like the craziest things you see that in new york. Bit like you'll go into a dumpling. Shop and in the back of the speakeasy joe and i. It's wild there's a lot of these creations and some of them are really cool. Like i love. There's a few of them that are really cool. And then some of the merchants bizarre like really bizarre dentist in the back of the dentist is like this place that sells records and beer from like you know the nineteen sixties. And you're like what have you gotta have a vinyl to get in birmingham and no in new york fat getting pre code. It was all like you know. You know everyone's talking about a certain place but then by the time you've heard of it it's no longer cool and now there's other weird thing. Now it's a warehouse totally ila. But you do you have a story share with us to. I want to morocco by myself on a very very quick whim. And i thought i was going to be cool so i put my phone in. You know i don't want i don't know what you call it. Twenty four hour military. And i went into the medina to get a massage that when i came out i assumed it would still be light. I didn't really calculated out anyway. When i came out of the massage it was pitch black. And i remember thinking who in the laptop outside. I genuinely thought that. And i didn't know what to do because i was about a forty five minute walk in an area that no one walks around and that isn't native and also i had no idea where it was going and i didn't wanna get harassed basically long story short. I wandered around without my phone fast. Paced round these alleyways. Walking very fast and people kept saying things to me and it was very confusing and strange. And i didn't know what to do so i got. It took me about forty five minutes to an hour and i was able to walk to this road and i was able to get out my phone and look at where i was on. Gps without internet. And i realized that. I was about an hour and a half from where i was staying and i had no idea what to do and they had no money on me and i didn't speak french or arabic so i walked into this coffee shop. That was pretty much male. Only and i had a connection at the hotel or this this friend that i had met and i basically called him up and gave him handed the person in the coffee shop. My phone. this guy who didn't who was looking at me like i was absolutely crazy. They started speaking in arabic. And i was so nervous and shaken up and dislike distraught. When i remember what. I was waiting for the guy to pick me up to take me back to my hotel. The guy who was there didn't speak any english and he thought i was crazy. I mean they thought i was nuts. Because i've probably was but they wanted to calm me down or just kind of like be comforting and nice and the only thing that he knew how to do that. I would understand was offered me an espresso a coffee and he gave me coffee and i kept chugging them because i was so nervous and i had nothing nothing calms you. Down like some espresso. In retrospect this is the most ridiculous thing but he kept giving me coffee at. I kept drinking it and he kept smiling and laughing and they were like laughing at me or with me. I don't know what they were doing. But i always remember that story because you know it's just simple gesture but you see it all over the world when someone something happens when someone's happy someone sad you know when someone's nervous it's like sharing a cup of coffee with a stranger and stranger might think you're knots but it's such an impactful experience and it's something that you know. I've kind of gotten to experience. Maybe not in that way in different places it's just really meaningful. I always remember that coffee for the rest of my life. My key to that whole story that you glossed over so quickly was. I decided go to morocco on a whim talking. That was the key part to me and and that was just like two seconds so that stories allah. What's your favorite book and why it was called lie to me. It's a murder sort of a twisted murder mystery. I don't know if this is not related to coffee. I've probably read it eight or nine times. And i'm not a big reader so for me. That's a lot i felt like. It was one of the first books i ever read in my life. That really developed these characters in a way that you really resonated with you and you really empathize with them. Even though some of what was happening was really wrong and everyone sort of has a story to tell and obviously there's good things and bad things. But i think those bad things also sometimes impact the good and focus definitely good story. That involves you know some crazy things. But you know the author. Believe it's lisa longer. Okay might be butchering her name. And and part of the reason that the literary lot segments started. Who's because linda was basically a kind of getting a premade book club and That that that helped out so that sounds like a great great book. Yeah i always going. I study criminal law college. So i sort of want a complete one eighty but i've always fascinated with anything crime-related or mystery while you've read it eight times so i think it's worth looking up joe with your favorite book as well as a series of books as opposed to just just one book but i tend to read to kind of just escape a little bit inside and switch off. Say i don't read too many Sort of nonfiction or crime dramas or anything like that My favorite kind of book series hands down is actually a bilingual named anthony rich's who is a historian and writes historical fiction and he wrote a series called the empire series the long in the show of the story. It's about a A roman noble who Fools fools foul of the emperor the time and kind of full as his journey as he hides himself and it's loosely. Based on fact. Like i said they will through a historian so for me was just a way to kind of switch off an escape my my day today. Say that's probably my favorite series perfect and as you guys were talking earlier trying to recreate the coffee shop experience through your website and your business. We've tried to do that with the show in that includes music obviously because music is a big part of being in the coffee shop so we have people listen to spotify playlist associated with this episode in. This one will be called honey in roses. And we'll have a playlist so we're wondering if you guys have some tunes that you could share with us that we can post on that playlist and that people can sip and they can kind of saver and do almost like a wind. Pairing with the coffees in your tune. So do you have some tunes. You could share. I love my huge music person. I was a singer So and i grew up around music. I was named after ella fitzgerald. My mom's a professional musician So i mean. I'm listening to a lot of different things right now and i often will pair whatever i've been listening to you know with our coffee in videos. I love saint paul and the broken bones. I love Gary carts junior. I love tedeschi trucks band. I've got really big lately into some singer. Songwriters listening to james morrison a lot aimlessly ton of stevie wonder marvin gaye so we've got soul and we've got some singer. Songwriters aimlessly is right up there in my book. I mean i love my. My playlist is pretty diverse. I've been listening to the revivalists quite a bit and a band called. Ko k- leo. I'm not sure how you pronounce it in joe. How about musical tastes for you. I'm glad eller answer that question. So will because i have this notorious habit of knowing music but i cannot for the life of me name. Who's responsible for is really my my spotify. Playlist is is like rush Mean my friends. Call a russian roulette because there is everything from adm to heavy metal to hip hop to classical music on the. And because i i never actually sat down to make myself playlist. It can segue very very quickly into a completely different genre. I remember over the summer. He was like fixing the deck their house and it was like we've muniz wife get over. It was blasting heavy metal and then after jazz. And i'm like how do you switch. Like what are you listening to. And then there was some hip hop song from the nineties. That would come so crazy but you know. My mother actually has the most phenomenal taste in music. So my my mother in japanese and you know when my wife. And i got married. We sort of took a couple of trips. And i was just amazed at some of her platelets. And she's very big into classic rock and that some of the autism in her lifetime. I mean you've got the who and queen and fleetwood mac and kiss and all of these big ones and she's just got all of her tickets from the various concert. she's yes she has seen. honestly she is seen some of the tree classic greats. It's really amazing. Actually there's no really enjoy with the exception of aretha franklin the and it's not because aretha franklin. This is not a good artist. She's phenomenal office she she. She is truly amazing. But my first job in a financial firm in london and i used to call a particular institution every single day and the hold music was respect and so for at least least twenty five minutes every single day i go respect on repeat and i just. 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Triple Threat Takeover Review!!

Mouthpiece Wrestling Podcast

1:05:56 hr | 1 year ago

Triple Threat Takeover Review!!

"Yep. Welcome, welcome to the mouthpiece wrestling podcast with a little bit different cuz go is off sudden himself with his fiancee somewhere. I've got two guests couldn't just handle just one. So we got the boat group and jet ski. Hey guys. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello how exciting triple triple threat. I love that trip with her and I mean about it. Would Main Event many sort of podcast book improve bring out today paid event of podcasts the new Elite and but yeah, so go is off having fun. Again think I pulled the Short Straw with this partnership see how many holidays that man has but we won't go into that right angles and hold a once-a-month home. So living the high life in a highlight lesson. Meanwhile, you know about his draft picks. Now, are you allowed out of your house? I'm not allowed to go to anyone's house. I'm not allowed anyone over dead. Yeah, and G. I was just flying across the bloody United States. So yeah, right right big week. We had take over obviously over the weekend have to admit that all other night. It was pretty good. Aw was good. I thought Victory Road was good. Everything's been quite good. But obviously I think take over was the big event. You guys have a watch which do they go through Very good show very good show I watched in two phases because I didn't realize that it was starting earlier than I expected. But I got that I got that bug. Yeah, I I just generally thought sort of the matches lots of on offer were sort of a high color, but there was not really one match was just like okay, that's kind of like the one where you quickly go and get a drink and come back kind of life was definitely warm where you saw had to even watch it again in Des Moines case or you know, obviously making sure you got all the snacks and drinks ready to watch the whole event. So yeah pretty good. Yeah. Yeah because I'm always I thought like the post covid-19 Co vers have been they've been good but not like take over levels, but I thought this one was back to very much a normal T. Take over. High-quality stuff. Yeah, I enjoyed it from beginning to end to be fair. And obviously a few it started with Damien produced against joining cargar know a lot of people were like go watch Joanie done to deserve match and realize Johnny in this match and stuff. But I thought those two were great. I mean, I I think it makes sense. Like I know is is a big star and if they're pushing Damien Freestone know I read that they are fighting someone like Al-Qaeda is important. You know, I think people get lost in the the whole Ghana doesn't deserve it. They forget that he has carried the branch for years and he puts on good match all the time like his best man at his worst matches are better than some people's best matches. Yeah. Mom. Also you got to think in terms of even just NXT casual say you religiously watched a Raw and SmackDown watch the odd NXT Yahtzee know at this point who Johnny Gargano is so obviously a win, obviously Over, Georgia. What kind of is more sort of makes priest? I'll see more legitimate moving forward up the card which obviously is. He said sort of see Dave Meltzer said they're really high on priest. So you'd likely to think that who start moving on probably keighley sort of levels of moving up the card in NXT and obviously into the raw or Smackdown. So yeah, cuz I think I think Damien priest has been amazing like he's match with Finn Balor amazing run so far has been pretty darn good and famed to be taken as a serious competitor. He needs wins over guys like Johnny Gargano like and that's why I think that matches book and it's just all of a match. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't know if it was I think it was a little bit weird in moments. I feel like they would do it felt a bit like a goner Adam Cole match or something wrong. I don't know at times but like for a big guy Damien priest moves around like a madman, you know, yeah, I was really impressed and obviously Damien priest has retained. I hooked him up in the record in to retain. It was really good as I say solid opener and then we moved on to The kishida Velveteen dream match. I really enjoyed it because it was a different side to kishida but I think it made him look really strong. But also, I think it was quite a good match to in my opinion take dream away from TV. Yeah, I think he needs to but not because he's poor performer because I think he sold cuz she does aggressive side really really. Well. Yeah. I just think from a match point of view. I think this could have worked if they just had kishida squashing him. But yeah, like in felt like a Draught out squash match because it felt like dream was just getting pounded on a beat up a bit. But yeah, I think dream needs a break cuz everything I read like opening of any review was like, oh I'll do it here dream is scum, you know and it's like the start of every review he's not being judged on any wrestling at the moment. And I know this was to show an aggressive side to kishida I get that it was a kishida moment. But what's the point in using dreaming that there's other people they could use to put on a good I don't know how long the moment it's it's difficult because everyone just hates him even though yeah, nothing has been proved guilty. That's why I don't get like they've just the internet world seems to have been judged jury and executioner known at once. Yeah, they can't really prove. I mean, it looks bad, but they can't prove it. It looks bad. But at the same time like Somebody with very little Photoshop skills could do something that made it look like that was a thing. Yeah. I'm not saying that he's innocent not saying this Ghillie. We just don't know how to improve Eva to be fair, you know, as you say you wouldn't need to have big brains to fake. What what was come out. I just don't see the point in Booking him like this. I did that. It was a very good match. I feel a little bit sorry for him because he can obviously put in a good match and I mean he really does sell so yeah. Yeah Hinckley one of them is in the whole interview alone NXT, but I think yeah, I think the whole of this is all about shaders in terms of his personality. He needed me more than just a quote-unquote technical wrestler needed them more the personality exhibition and I know you're saying or why wouldn't it shouldn't be a squash match but eventually dream will come back eventually whatever this break will be where it's a month to month six months. Whatever it be dead. And you don't want the last image or last thought to be. Oh you just lost in 5 minutes is Denise me some credibility. So yeah, I think another reason that dream are you said about why dream for the March? Why not some nails and gets because dream is up there on a level with people like Ziggler who they can sell anything and make anything walk better than it is not saying that anything that created it wasn't good. But there were always going to get that high level of cell to really push this is what kashina can do. Yeah, and that's why. I really dig the aggressive shot outside that they showed up a cheetah jump in him after the bell and stuff and it was you know, he sold so well, I was some Discord chats. I've seen people actually thought dream was hurt. Yeah. I mean, I think it helps he sold it off and it helped that he was definitely crying for his mom. I was watching and all that. Did he just ask for his mom's I really wanted was that he's definitely asking for his mum hear ya ya ya ya ya job. But he's really good match. And the thing is is that you know, as I was saying it just cuz its velvety Dream It's took away from the fact that those two partners really good matches. Yeah, and I'm wondering if Having it done that way and having the pain and everything. Does it rehumanize dream? You know, they're trying to say look. This is he's a person but yeah, but maybe maybe that's the Avenue that take try and get some sympathy machine get his teeth in but it's not try to work because people were kind of happy that he may have got her is a frustrating thing. But I I do as I say on the other side, I really like this aggressive kishida and if that's what we're going to stick with then I think that's great that it was the Cruiserweight Championship. I am big big on. I like as I swept Scott. I like what Santa's Escobar's noticed chapped. I have to say I don't think I don't think there was ever a thought that Scott was going to win money. I don't even think about you know, sometimes you're in a match the back and forth start making you think that maybe the Champions going to lose but these two I thought knocked out the park. I thought it was it was great. She just amount right of interference. The Finish was a bit weird for me. You know, I don't know just yeah, I did come off a little bit awkward. I thought the Finish after the match they had again. I thought just those two could fight forever in my view. They they seem to have such good in-ring chemistry long. It's been amazing. Yeah for they cut. Sorry you go down. I was just going to say it with what you said about never felt like swerve was going to win you always felt it was written same but at the same time zone no fault. This is an easy win for Escobar. Yeah, wouldn't it, swerved wins and I've been but oh really, but you know being okay. Yeah, and also, you know Scott also is like, you know, how you know what the front driver think Three Amigos frog Splash. It wasn't just like okay that one finish of that was it kind of gone. It it did kind of make Scott more that sort of resistible to it. That way if you do put him in that situation, you know, give or take a couple of months maybe a new Champion or whatever. You know, I think Scott will win it has some point I just take that Santos is is does so well I have to say the rocket is some brakes right maybe a sense of sad not going to lie coming out with a sombrero you get man. I did get but yeah, it was a good back and forth right amount of interference. They I think they would get a match to steal the whole show. I think I think that's what they were both trying to do. Was it kind of gone under the radar that they were on the card? So I think it felt like they were trying to put a match to go hey wage. We're here. We're on this card to yes Santos Escobar did retain the thing was is that some of the stuff on T if seen any or 2:05 or anything else has it been that great. Actually there are clearly sort of saving themselves to this match because they raised their huge level. That's what I was just going to mention the stigma cuz 205 I'm not very good by it hasn't been since the cruiserweight classic. It's always just been about okay it was you know, it was back end of Rod back in the smackdown. It's the back end up here. It's now. Championship on NXT and I think they sort of saw that matches right? We're on takeover. Let's sure that we are at that level as well. Yeah. You know Shanty the Adonis what a beast. But yeah now I'm really really pleased how the match turned out cuz yeah, I was always a 205 fan like some of the Drew gulak championships in 205 stuff was just unbelievable like the shows then was something else for Google it was champ. So it's a shame that too or five is kind of just become a bit of a nothing. I think you should just scrap it and leave it all out nx2, you know is that was going to be my question about where where do they go next? Now, you know, what does Escobar do next and you know, do they go again you aren't you know with Scott. Do you find someone else? It's just kind of dog is the issue in my opinion with the cruiserweights is that it's always like the cable who's next in a lot of all the other championships around to Victory. You can kind of guess who they're going to go to or at least who deserves the next chance for this is the one where you kind of know who they're going to pluck from their policy NXT roster at the moment. Yeah. There's no defined standout stars that you think they could, you know, they're good for it. They're good for it. He's good for it. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly warmed roster. Yeah, because two and five isn't really a thing it's not really helping the situation at all. Yeah, because they're not getting any enough time on NXT. The bill already storylines is like stretchy said they let you just plug you're probably be totally nice or something next they'll just don't take through that, you know, but it was a good match those very very pleased with that. And then it was Women's Championship time are sharing. This is Candice lerae now. I actually thought that the ray was going to come off as champ. I did call that I thought Candace was going to win money and obviously they set the bar quite High because the last time they were at take over it was like the women's match of the year, I think for 2019 or something like that. They put on didn't reach that level this one but still a hell of a wrestling match these to put on Yeah, I mean for me the only sort not solid oak. So I always hate it. It's just always trying to wonder like why was Johnny Gargano seems like influence needed if that makes sense of wonder if that made it sort of a lesson Peggy kind of always puts in the whenever a partner comes rushing out, especially when it's a guy in this occasion. It's like does that bring transistor a down a little bit like does she need Johnny to win? I know that's awesome most of the story but in terms of legitimizing it making it a top-tier match compared to what it was last year did dark out like Johnny going to ruin it. I don't know when it came to that but as far as a decent match, but I agree wasn't that the levels as well. Yeah. Yeah, like previous years. They yeah last year as I say they put on a massive massive match, but I mean it was good. But I I see what you mean. I didn't know the way they did the governor thing running out with a ref kind of feed into what they've been doing as heels. Yeah, I think the guy off No interference with the Rapture. I think the only way would have worked as a player would be if Candice would want the title. Like it just saw it came out with Russia ref came round wage, you know got caught with the title and then there's still one and I'm like, well what with the point in yeah, I know running. I mean cuz the referee Shadow and give give me back my chair. But yeah, it's not yours. Yeah, I think it made it was for me. It was it was probably the worst match of the night even it was a good match and I think most of my feelings on the matter came from that running that just didn't need to be there or made much sense to me. Yeah. Yeah and he's not winning it lets see. Yeah. I just did one other being annoyed at have been vexed and have been like what the hell this is ridiculous. And I've had all the emotions that that ruining should have given me instead of a bit like more potent. Yeah didn't achieve nothing but I have to give shout-outs as well for me. I think Yoshua is right up there among some of the best women wrestling in wrestling today. I have to say she's amazing. Yes. Yes right now as well like she's on such a good run and she's performing so well. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't matter who she's putting on banging off the Banger after Banger, you know, it's not the biggest book like she seems like a legit butterfly. I you know that she can hold her own against anybody on the roster. She's she's not she don't fear anything. She's yeah, I enjoy exactly like when she got inside into that Charlotte rear match. She doesn't replace. Yeah. She didn't she wasn't lost in amongst with the heightened been over those two but no point did I think should come up as Champion, but that she is she that off because the end of the match first of all we get a big big screen to pair of Toni storm congratulate her and saying that she's back. Nice to see Tony Stone back. I'm a big toe DeStorm fad if that's leading to Toni storm. Take my money. I'm all up for it. And then when you thought that wasn't enough. Amber moon appeared to So em back I saw Amber way she would talk in is that Amber was retired like pretty much I thought she was done the way she was talking. I mean, I think it was a bit Overkill having a bulb out at the same time though, or you just pleased to see them both. I'm pressing like really sort of please see both because well obviously go in to us or draft predictions later on in the podcast. I do think some people especially on the female side, but Allen will be moving it to sort of the main roster cuz they're in need of it. So I think to bring some new blood especially for e o wherever it's a triple threat if they go both at the same time or individually want a timer Amber sort of say rack and wins and then just put in Tony and Teo straight together. They've just got more possibilities. It's more you're really excited for the future. Now you've seen both of them more than like I'm worried initially is more like a k there's a good what three four months of planning at least with them three friends program. I mean in that maybe some of the women's division of nxt's going to get moved around, you know, bring in to in freeze up some space maybe with a draft come in. Yeah. It's definitely a shock things up a bit. In a good way and yeah, I think Amber coming back but this point that she's left the main roster, but I get it because I'm kind of got that sense of every time she's been somewhere. She's got injured but when she ran NXT, she was a you know, she were she'll do. Well she was fat. She was Health it probably a good thing to put her back. Toni storm a Leica but they've just massively weakened the NXT UK division. Yeah. Cuz she solve Kaylee may as good but Toni storm was the women's division. Yeah, yeah, that's true. It's true have to see what maybe they've made some additions. You never know. But now I'm really pleased so I was really pleased to see Toni storm then to see Amber. I'm just so Amber like I didn't realize it was going to be Ember that was doing all them promos and stuff. So which was quite cool cuz everyone was like our Joe's going back to NXT might be both Dallas turns out to be Ember moon at the end of it off baby injured in see cuz I did Toni storm didn't really make a play for the title. She just said that she's back and the moon kind of did the stair out. So be interesting to see what's next because either he or she arrives is Toni storm Mario Chavez is Ember Moon take my money all day take my money all day. And then the main one. Oh, yeah, the Bala Kyle O'Reilly now, I knew this was going to be good. I think everyone knew it was going to be good, but that good like oh, exceeded high expectations that I already had in my view it felt like I was watching like Daniel Bryan when he was Bryan Danielson Ring of Honor stuff, you know. Yeah, so that took a lot like they just beat the hell out of each other. I knew it's going to be a good match, but I was also thinking so soon after ballad versus factor, which was dead in my opinion Palace best much in a long time. Just watching them just smash into pieces I was a bit is it too soon after that, but then I watched an oversight which is just let me watch it again. It was just everything just worked. They just let them go and they just be their crap out of each other and it was fantastic to want to Riley's light bulb is now and the speed check for like facial injuries. So I think I think the only surprises me that people that sort of think Colorado. He's just attack team, you know specialist, you know, that's that's the only people are going to surprise people that know or seen sort of car wrecks or wherever it's you know, we're on the Indies or or sixty they kind of know he can do this kind of match. So that's why for some people. There isn't a surprise and it's probably even exceeded expectations as you've said, but for those surprised reactions wage be seen on Twitter there. Those people are just thought of him as a tag team, you know participant when he's obviously way more than that and I was having actually this conversation today my yesterday it's going to be interesting. Now how they functioned the Undisputed era moving forward whether it's obviously within NXT or whether it's raw or Smackdown because if Carl's doing this kind of performances, do you just want to vote for him back into you know a tag team Specialist or and how legitimize so it's it's definitely a lot of questions moving forward, but it's definitely, you know, risen his stock. Yeah, like 10 times. Yeah hundred percent and yet cuz Roderick strong Adam, obviously were already clear good single stars. And now that I Riley's obviously reminded people exactly who the hell he is like you watching from Ring of Honor stuff. Like this is what color Raley's like capable of yeah, you say how do they put him back in a tag match with you know, Bobby fish against breezango no disrespect to freezing or anything but dead by the rallies kind of stepped up now that you're going to expect to see them in more singles action, you know because of his performance. It makes like if they're going to stay as a tag team, they have to change too raw or Smackdown simply because what a refresh that would be for the tag team divisions. Not the Box on both shows. Do you think maybe they you know, cuz obviously there was a bit of the end Goodrich Holland carrying a beat-up Adam Cole not too bowed out. Do you think that maybe just suck of Undisputed era get called up or do you think they're called up the whole thing? Do you think now would be the time to split them? I think call them up but not necessarily an insult. I think that might have a thing where call maybe goes back and Finn, you know, unfinished business like the usually, you know, they usually get taken out before they move to another show. I just got I'm off by there's always somebody up. Nothing call will get his be up and then move up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, cuz they're going to have to do this which holiday angle that they've done, Um his name and artist. He's Lucas from Leeds Bridge Holland off. His name is Luke vary from late, but it's good to see him getting obviously a half-decent push. Mm. Yeah. I don't know if this if it is his grandma, but he being from Leeds in Wrestled a couple of local shows and one of the shows he was like in a month and there was this old lady she was living for it. And so I just assumed that it's his grandma. She was she was instead. But yeah, Luke not Ridge coverage, but would you give out said as a whole show off our tent or what? Yeah, I'd go with a solid seven and I know that might seem bad but I think this is Young the whole of takeovers which states are high standards. So I'm not saying it's up there is like the best ones but it's definitely not the worst. So I think a good solid seventh really I'm going to go six years simply the few bits that I didn't enjoy that was at what point just took it down from it, like a strategist said like the 10 out of 10 ones when you go back down are seriously good shows like, you know, the ones that have received 10 out of 10, so it's very difficult when you're judging it on the level that take over a set itself. But yeah, I would I kind of have it in this seven to eight kind of dog. Cuz it was very good. It's the best one. They've done praying like post covid-19 that they've set the bar so so high so so high off but it was all good. Right? So then we moved on to Royal last night, which was interesting. Yeah, interesting fact, I I don't really know what's going on because half a Smackdown are kind of on raw and yeah, I mean struck see what the mess. Yeah, you know, so Thursday night. There were five Smackdown superstars on Raw I think counted. Wow. Yeah. I don't I don't get it. Like I want to see what they do with with fiend and I winced like I think that was for me big part big plus of raw, but why is why is Feen they're like, you know why I don't understand Ed. Is it from the Kevin & Bean show that you did with bliss? Yeah, and then fingers are answered. Whatever and it brought strowman. Just walking around in unsanctioned matches. Yeah. Yeah. Like just resorted to 24/7 just basically Wars down the whole draft though this hot left cuz it's not the whole point of life is to be like, oh, wow think of the new matchups. They haven't been on this, you know particular brand but if they just generally going on it anyway, like what's the point you eat again? It's just Waters down something trying to Hype up. It's like they're making like they're sort of booking and the you know their lives a lot worse by just doing what they're doing at the moment instead of making it a big deal about oh so-and-so is going to this particular Branch like Braun going to go to Raw is not going to be a big deal since he's pretty much been there, you know for the past few weeks, especially with underground. So if we control Yeah, cuz he had that first with the r or underground and then he's just sort never left and he's not being back on Smackdown since know because I had thought I wasn't going to SmackDown which I still think will be a thing, but I was saying today that yeah get maybe why people are thinking fiend why maybe he's appearing on Raw because if Romans like the big joke, he'll there that he's clearly doing. Is the faint going to get lost in that shuffle a little bit. Can you have to Main Event heels like that that can share time probably not especially when you've got such the sort of mid-card that Seamus Heaney in Corbin's and stuff on stage. And you know, I think if they keep the fiend out with the title picture it wouldn't be an issue him staying cuz I think as long as Bray Wyatt, obviously that that characters are meant to be a fair like you meant Baba is the hidden monster because I think if the move breathe they have to move Alexa down to take Alexa out of that thing with Nick across and Lacey Evans or the just take her out of it altogether and then I might well what's last month of storyline being taught but then they'll be w e m you move Kevin images like she's never been without his at all. So yeah, but if you move Kevin Owens to SmackDown Okay. Yeah, he's gone from the Aleister black side of things unless it take hours to black but they're the only two that that storylines affected by moving like the not leaving somebody else on Raw like what do I do now? What do I do now? I'm just I think it makes more sense for I would tend to start something with as the black cuz obviously Aleister black attacked Owens at the end of the promo that you had I have to say I thought the promo between Owens and brave was really really good. Yeah, it made a lot of sense. I think it is leading something with us to Black because Kevin Owens asking Alexa Bliss questions on the office down was also could learn what's wrong with Alistair black. Yeah, and I think it's all and yeah. Scary would be scary. But yeah, I had always going to SmackDown. So I'm going to stick with that because the thing is the only other thing that you see, you know, Roman Reigns obviously champ who's the next face to face him. That's why they use a new so who is up there that as a face to go for the title, like legitimately. They don't really have anyone else in this whole, you know, covert. If you really think about it most of the major angles or up Superstars or Grand Vitara generically been healed apart from Drew really sure if you think about it and it's just it's easier to convey, you know heels without a crowd naturally because you don't have the reaction of that makes sense. They can do it without the necessarily the the booze to go along with it. They can just carry on doing what they do. And where as the face is it's a lot more harder to get over and I think I said it last time I was on the podcast, you know, unless yep. Read Twitter or whatever. How do they know if they turn someone face how it's that's even going to come across. Well, if they're like, it's like being a heel you just do he'll things but being a face, I feel you need that more validation that you know, they're on your side. And without the crowd is a lot more difficult. So that's why you have to include family stories or things like that just to kind of in the writer's mind. Yes. They're definitely off face when it goes into the contest that leads me to a passage having a WhatsApp discussion with a friend of mine saying that do you think maybe this error now cuz they're doing and obviously different areas. Do you think he'll and face wash is finished do you think maybe they stop trying to push one as a face wanted to help with just with the way people support who they support. You know, how big on Roman Reigns home I kind of will cheer him in a way because of the Hill actions, which is kind of defeating the point. I don't want to boo him. I want to I want him to continue it. It's like when gender was champ I loved Because it's like proper. Hey Tim T. I mean like but you love it at the same time that with JBL was champ. I bloody loved it because he was such a weasel and you're like, oh my God, but you love it off. So do you think that was just come full circle where he'll and face doesn't work anymore and maybe yeah, just whoever because controversial opinion from me here. I don't I don't I drew an email on both of em, like just is too Goody Two-Shoes. Like he's you know, he's saying with Randy on I want Randy Orton to put his head in and hit the title wage. Like I'm bored of him being a champion. No, that's not the Drew I want I want dirty. He'll troop kicking the crap out of people again, like when you get along with Ziegler and just Clermont people my okay. Yeah when he won the title as the face against Brock fantastic all for it, but it's got low down and Bot. But do you think it's because there's no other faces. This is our thing this. Like if you really think about top-tier if you put the topic are cuz obviously Romans not the face anymore. So Drew is pretty much taken Romans place in terms of a phase which you'd like to think people that I've obviously grown up with the Attitude Era and things like that and now sick of Drew like your feelings what you're feeling is what we all felt of Roman, you know, it's a year ago, I felt with coping and yeah and it's just rinse repeat like if you think of all the faces the face life span is definitely a lot shorter than a he'll lifespan. So it's just found out and you know, we've obviously who they're targeting to you do need face and fortunately Drew's the face which Advocates because when someone is the fairest the front down our necks I wouldn't it's not a natural like they want them to be everything. They want us to think they're Invincible. They want us to want to buy their stuff and it's just like please just let me think for myself. Yeah, just shut down the next to make you buy stuff in it. But yeah on the other side like wrestling fans like us like the Kobe thing. That was just hype and when he beat was it Kevin Owens? I think it was at that point. I'm like I'm done with them. All right. So if you've had your 5 minutes, you know, and I do get what you're saying, but did you think that comes really hyped? I think what hasn't helped you is the lack of crowd. Yeah. Yeah, you know that hasn't shipped because I think the crowd would have been back into it at WrestleMania beating Brock Lesnar. They would have been hyped all through this summer. Probably going into Royal Rumble season Steelers Champa. Yeah, I'm beginning like the work order is doing now and the way the shows are Definitely. I think they should put the belt on because some of Austin's best work. It could also be the lack of Real rival to him. Like it's him a Norton. He's been he's been on twice. He's got a third match against him why there's nothing to prove his being in twice a month why there's nothing left, but if aren't in the title picture, who's the next big heel on on Rock Rollins, and he's already been Rollins. Luckily. He just recycled him off Roland's in his current step is just med cart. Which is not a maybe a move fiend or even Roman back to Raw like it's not in my predictions, but I wouldn't be shocked to see Roman got a wrong all and go to SmackDown and then on win at Hell in a Cell swap the titles. Yeah, you could do that. Yeah, they could do that. They could do that. I could see that whoever's got number one pick. I said before Roman will grow number one. Yeah, whoever's picking fast will pick Roman Reigns. And so and that will sort of I think will then determine if my if my predictions go good or bad because I don't know who's number one is the only reason I've not put Roman as one of my predictions when it comes to my product. Yeah. Yeah, cuz if we knew who went first month, I think they pick Roman Reigns, you know, yeah, and then I think whoever picked second splits up bayley and Sasha, you know, I think those two are like I I think one and two months like so it'll be interesting to see whoever picks first but as it's on Smackdown, I think the assumption is it might be Smackdown. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah one last bit before we get onto your predictions in. Yes. I quick shout-out for the the knee that buddy Murphy did Dumbo. Hello, by the way, if you have it to see that watch that. Yeah, I love the way the booking buddy Murphy by the way, I agree. Yeah, I was just about to tell you it's a weird storyline but they're making like it's making Brittany Murphy look really good to be honest. So yeah, and if this needs like a Rollins Murphy match, I think that would be great. Like I like what Rollins is doing obviously he's going to take some time off to go and play dead soon turning that's pretty much it. Yeah, so he's putting guys over he's done great things with Dominic is doing great work now with Murphy if it leads to Rawlins r e Murphy, I think it'll be great because if you think back like somebody refused matches with Alistair black like 4 - so but never got bored of seeing a book that to death and you'd still want to watch them, you know, and I think watching Murphy against Humberto like just shows how good he is but interesting to see them cuz obviously I don't want Dominick to be the one that gets lost in this though cuz I want to see who Dominic's going to fight next. You know, I want I want him to move on. But yeah in New Jersey To say I love the way yeah, but then the by the way ahead of took his head off just a quick story. You want just sort of thing with the whole buddy Murphy think I think the reason why I again, we're liking me it goes back in the topic were saying before the way faces are getting over or what we're cheering for the underdog It Started from the Daniel Bryan and it's carried on ever since but when they've done what they needed to do, whether it's back over their rival win the title, that's when sort of did the same goes over. It's like we've cheered him up to that point and then it's kind of goes downhill. So it'll be interesting to see obviously with Murphy and Rollins when they obviously goes over and you'd like to think about if you will go over what's his next step after that because again, it could easily go Into Obscurity after that. I just like Dominic is dead. Yeah because Seth Rollins has worked so hard at getting them over when Rollins isn't there. It's what they do next, you know, cuz I think a lot of it the problem at the minute is everyone's like wow violence is working really good wage. Guys and what we kind of need to see what them guys are doing away from running, you know, and also like the other bit of raw the bit that upset me the most pointless keighley Broadstone know what I didn't what was the point of that see? That's why I don't get to meet with W. They do something so well like they've done this whole Rollins Mysterio Murphy stuff and then there's that like It was like what a minute a minute and it was a double count-out and they built it up. So Brian had the big video package and they built this out. Like it's the biggest thing ever. It's exhibition match doesn't count. It's not sanctioned. But if it didn't count in its exhibition you still hitting with a double count-out after a minute. Yeah. This is Anna get it wrong for me. You know how long it's almost like they were trying to tease us with look how good this much could be, you know, you want this, you know, little girl. I don't want anymore. Yeah, like if they killed oh and if they've never put them in the ring together, like if they've gone you want the match tough. I don't want them off and put them in an option to like, you know after 10 seconds with no billed as well. Like when you thought key fleas going up to the main roster quote unquote main roster home thinking of all the different matchups and problem would be up there. So when Street just giving it like that it was kind of like a k fair enough people like surprises, but it was like not that kind of surprised like that is definitely something you could ease. The bill to Anchored last you know a couple of people have used at least so this is SmackDown guy. Yeah, at least let Keith Lee go through the roster first, you know God. Yeah absolutely pointless. Like what that what the hell that was like. Yeah. We want to see keyboard streaming all about it. Just sign me up like a popped hard when there was like him Lesnar and and strobing in the ring like, oh my God, I want to see all these matches and then it just kind of ruined it. I don't know it just is weird. It was weird and then it followed in with that weird Trivial Pursuit thing, but I was doing like what what I did I I don't even know what that was. It was like the weirdest little section. the vignettes always came before the debut She's being all on Raw for what 2 months 3 months why all of a sudden without learning about these vignettes that make no sense or that she proved that she's the smartest is it like a character change? But yeah the character change there's nothing wrong with Bianca Bella. I did. Yeah, I think it just shows to me how well. Down in NXT, you know, like tribulations vehicles and everyone else like handles their Superstars and the characters they create and our main roster just has no idea. They don't need to change some people that Bianca Bel-Air was one of them. We didn't need to change. Then there was the standard R-Truth losing and winning this title back. I love our truth. But can we just took like give it to go back and let truth go away for a bit. I'll give it to tazawa. Just I want somebody else to involve now like there is overkill for me. Now. I love our kids death. I'm just loading red. Now I'm 50/50 saying yeah. The figures it's just 42. I've just checked for funny like the gulag coming out of the kids in the window was quite funny. Like I just don't want to see truth. Keep we did it back like leave it with somebody else for a little bit. I don't know. It's just just become such a meme in it. You guys have some article matches for some some time just actual match not like one of these we're gonna have a match in the ring. The 24/7 rules are off seven seconds later Reserve Thursday when Elias had it that time and stuffing. Yeah. Yeah, just and of course the the big part of the night so the big part the bit that I wanted to get to other than you know than women's tag stuff obviously been built through the night was MVP sort of trying to recruit members of Apollo and Ricochet and they were teasing that maybe it was Ricochet. We will get a mention to Nia Jax and Shayna baszler absolutely squashing the right spot. They put up a fight, but they did get squashed. And then so through the night there was teasing this and look like Ricochet might do and this that and the other and then we can she was like No And in the star for arly was like want to fight MVP blah blah blah song. And then obviously the the the Hilton Mustafa Ali. Become the leader is the leader of Retribution who would have thought this what's got me is that this hacker storyline wage for so long and then when I'd rather has done we're done with that and then the retribution angle started a bit hacker. It was a storyline what that hacker was wage know if he's going to be that way though end up is the hacker was creating retribution feel like we've had to push since they stopped the hacker storyline to make that call back and make sense. But it's definitely the same story. I don't really like I'm glad that the stuff Rally's doing something. It's a really good spot in the roster frame Palm deserves. I just don't understand why they didn't the whole hackable because everybody's a Christmas stuff rally is Mustafa Ali and then Mistoffelees moved to raw and the hacker things over and I'm like, oh, okay. Wow and Twitter account and everything. It was really good. Yeah, now this I'm guessing it's going to be what that hacker thing was because WWE on BT Sport tweeted out saying Arlee liangco retribution Hack That was that we said but yeah, I mean obviously this was what they wanted Harley for. I mean as you say I'm all for it Mustafa Ali weigh more TV time Main Event kind of thing at the minute do it deserves a shot saying that you just ask for his release to like a month ago. They're clearly obviously wanted to stay because if this is like the home I noticed a will give you this. Yeah, I thought I I'm happy for him. It'd be interesting to see what happens next and how they building it cuz that's quite a group of wrestlers. They've got together in that contributes to their Performance Point. Yeah, even the honesty people in the group like you think so, that's why you kind of think again similar to what we're discussing that with obviously in dispute are and stuff. Like what's the ceiling with the retribution down and stuff early. Are we going to send you know, obviously sort of mid-card now and then eventually to the top part it's just and then the longevity of it as well. You know, I can't for some reason I can't see this lasting very long parents say good sort of three four or five months. But this time next year. Are we still going to be talking about and stuff early retribution? Probably not. So it's just what's he kind of going to achieve wage of, you know, say a six month window or be kind of interesting to see again with someone who are several least a few weeks ago to now be putting this prominent position. Yeah Mac. As I say this is probably the most interested of been in the storyline with now with Ali taken sort of charge of it. I'm not going to like there are probably some dots that you can make em, maybe the hacker being early and he's taught retribution how to turn switches on and off to interrupt a broadcast. But this is the most interested. I've been in the story. Yeah sad cuz I mean like that's like an actual someone and it feels like a group and that's a bit of a big hill turn and then obviously the main event which was Randy Orton rude and Ziggler versus Drew in the street. It's I actually thought it was an amazing match. I want to give props to the main event because I thought it was over and then that main event come the only thing like I know I did on him every week walk ins. So kids Dawkins looks out of his depth when he's in matches like this for me, like it really stands out that 2nd Street Prophet just isn't good enough, you know? Yeah, he's good. He's not that is not that long. Yeah, like I think I think the other five made made that very aware. He looks very outmatched when compared to everyone else, you know, just I think as a tag team montage. is 2 Is too far up like if Montes was then darkens wouldn't look as bad and they'd actually be a really good tag team. Whereas I might make him a single start, but at the same time don't spoil him up because just about to ever talk to him. Yeah, I like the reason I mention that is do you think they should have swapped it? Like the main event should have been arlee's revealed and then have that six very much before do you think it was a little bit because of the only thing being that mode and then you know this match and you were like, well it would have been a great way to end raw like the there's a gift that was put out by Ali where he's posted and it's him move his hand up and then the lights go out that would have been a great way to enroll. They've come out destroyed everybody boom. He zaps the show again. We've done it. We've brought it back to that song. But yeah, I think overall it was it was an all-right raw like it's the best role last month in my eyes, but I still would only give it a five out of ten which says a lot for the last month. I would give it more than me like pin in the trashcan Acura in a trash can and just kill that I notice Seth suckers moved on but like I don't want them off of your family. They're they're annoying me now. Like why would they still be here week after week except now and we've set buddy, you know, like I know I know these Kevin Owens break away from home like Kevin Owens just having to be thrown into random things just feels annoying like why is he moving into this Brave thing when he still hasn't finished with Alistair black. And as you said you said broad statement that little awareness it for the draft, you know, you just can't get feeling that it's like even though they obviously haven't announced it a they've got a lack of superstars available. All free one reason or another or they is it just doesn't come across that they've got this wide range of you know superstars on offer to choose and pick from cuz it's kind of the same 5530 people just rotating between the shows when I thought the whole point of this and again when it hopefully comes to the draft is that's one roster. That's another roster, but no they still don't learn the less and then there's still merge just to the only thing I can think of is that between the TV contracts. It just say that you know all superstars at some point, especially the top tier ones has to, you know, be on the other show, even if it's off when we have eight or something, you know, that's the only thing I can think of cuz again, they're skipping by story lines on their own show just to do something on the other show. Just yeah blows my mind off. Yeah, just so dropped on Friday. And as you say five people of SmackDown on Raw, yeah, I don't know. But that wasn't theirs. I think the most shocking think of the week was born stream according to father is of his former tag team partner. Amorim. Are we going to get a Nicholas Hilton? He's going to turn off caps much. Yeah. Can you imagine just come back and be out his dad? He's a motor out right the bit. Everyone's be waiting for his prediction time. Now some of the Full Faith have been mentioned. Well, oh God will save them for the winner. Save it for the winter. But yeah, you're down first Isis pics Smackdown and then we'll do right so I have going to SmackDown be disputed era. Kevin Owens why why why it's doing speed error because I think small town needs a couple of single Stars which you've got in potentially free of them. But also it needs a good tag team whether it be tag team as a Jew or a tag team is a free bird whatever that is and I think Undisputed era take a lot of boxes and I think you put them on raw and I don't see a place from at the moment put on Smackdown and I can I could see Adam Cole being in the main events. I could see Kyle O'Reilly going for in a continental. I can see them having a tag team against Cesaro and she escaped. I think that's run. Its course, you know, there's a few spots for them. So that's why I'm going on the break it down Okay, Kevin Owens just because I don't yes because I don't see the theme to go into real nothing. You need to move him for the storyline to make any sense as off. These are our rosters. Rhea Ripley because I think she's got nothing left on NXT. I just don't see a spot for it and I think putting her on Smackdown. She's a new contender in that sort of women's title. I don't think she'd fits Marshall. Yeah. I don't think this is going to be an immediate thing, but I think he'll be drafted and then we'll have a build-up Velveteen dream. Oh because again take him off TV for a bit yet and then build into come back home. He suits that sort of what's pat-downs become with the the some of the superstars have got be it the Sami Zayn's the AJ Styles the Hobbies, you know, not the bulb two stars, but people who are good workers and I think he could actually be a good refresh for him to get him somewhere else doing something of a different the returning Charlotte Flair she'll be drafted, but now don't know where she's actually roasted at the minute somewhere, but she will go. I think she is Roy. She's right. And and then my final pick is the next big face for the same Roman Reigns storyline angle a certain Samoan Mister juror. I think I was going to kill you the face for Roman Reigns someone else. As a legitimate threat to him that we'll have a few back and forth for a few months, but I think we get Joe for the commentary table now as good as he is. Joni speaking us. Yeah, like he's going to be a commentator life. Can we see him fight a little bit more as I said like if they are if the plan is Rock Reigns, WrestleMania Joe is perfect over the winter exactly what to feel they're so God, you know, I'm assuming he'll fight the other who so then maybe Joe step in. Yeah. I can see Joe being the guy over the sort of Royal Rumble. That fights Herman. Now for raw in the book. Yeah Raw, it's up new dear because I think they just bought a down and bar. And now I am all Piggies big singles push never happened going off the show and two raw, let them do something a bit different take the titles off of the street profits if they have to because it'll give some legitimacy. It's a really good tag team that can carry it in a vision have a bit of fun. Bring something back. Noodle Seamus again. I don't really he's not really got much of a point on Smackdown take him to Raw if the keeping track on Drew Seamus Andrew works beautiful food. Yeah. Better dissemination to watch a game. Because I don't see any other reason why the tech the Intercontinental title off of a mr. Planning on trading him. And it could be you know, some new matchups with somebody cuz how do you will go anywhere, you know, you know, you're going to get good match from him good food and nothing. I don't see much use for it anymore on Smackdown. Yeah, call up suction move along for the Gaga nose. Yes, because I only said I didn't just Johnny but then Candice didn't win and America or maybe both because they like to keep husbands and wives together. Yeah. Yeah, and I did have it originally as dream to roll Gargano to SmackDown, but I think putting canvas as the next thing for asking maybe God. Yeah, possibly I think. Brown because he might as well be there anywhere. Yeah, he's being that for a month if I drop it off debts and my final pick is Bailey. Separate Banks and bayley I think banks is going to win the title and I think Bailey will be drafted to Raw because I don't I think she's done everything. There's one spot down. Yeah, no, she has say I have session going to yourself. But yeah, I think them split up. I think that's a really good show. I don't think she's going to win it this week. By the way. I think I'll be I'll be up in love very much then she'll take it. But yeah, I could say if they're going to if they get it take the belt off Bailey now would be the time. Yeah Bob sessions in this but I hate face Sacha. I hate it. They're pretty good pics actually surprising ones. But yeah, I could see all of them you give good reasons. I did originally have Roland's for Smackdown, but then I remembered that it's going to be taking time off and I think when he comes back from W is then you'll be a small town sort of stuff, right? You're going to be remains folk maybe because you'll come back as a face being a dad and Becky Lynch thing. Yeah. I might as well milk what they can now Right. I like it strategy. No pressure then no pressure. There is some similarities and some same Superstars that we mentioned but I've done opposites. So yeah. Yes, like I've got real life and Kevin Owens on my Smackdown 1 c c. Oh, yeah, I did that. I could see that and Geo said Velveteen dream as well. So yeah, see where our brains are out. There should be a lot more NXT colors which I think cuz cuz I think the whole cuz of so many sort of shared shows Raw and SmackDown these kind of go what they want the whole Linux movement Fields knew that kind of makes sense. So yeah, I'll start with Matt and first I've gone for Charlotte Flair. It's going to SmackDown not to Ross. Oh, yeah. Well smack down. I just feel I don't know, you know when there's some Superstars where it suits a brand more. I've just got Charlotte going in there and I just think she will work better. They can do the usual for horse. Swimming thing eventually whatever but they always looking for obviously like there's going to be a lot more pics than six but do you think that ends up with Android are going to SmackDown then if she goes and probably eventually I mean I'm putting down as well but I kind of makes oh and also he needs some kind of new and fresh to go on as well if they are splitting Selena in him like yeah, one of them probably needs to move it move. She's doing nothing now, is it correct? So I've got Ricochet going over to SmackDown. Oh, yeah think Rich they need something new. I think he's kind of all the kind of mid-to-low tear matches that he can on draw and I just think again Smackdown for me feels a lot more fast-paced. I know if it's the two hours compared to three hours, but it definitely seemed more the church that do go on. It's more fast-paced which again than suits his style. I think a lot more personally. So yeah, I've got actually the Undisputed era I was talking I was speaking today ma'am. In a way of just to do Adam Cole or Undisputed era in what I was alluding to before earlier in the podcast about what you do with Carla Riley after that big kind of main event, but I've gone off all of Undisputed era to go to SmackDown and I've gone Johnny Gargano and Candice lerae both of them going to SmackDown also. What I'm trying to think of the order of put in keighley, no one's mentioned that I think he'll go to SmackDown how I came into that actually based off last night. Actually. I was thinking why did they Rush the whole Braun keighley and I think it was more of a tease of not initially cuz obviously I'm going to eventually put brought onto raw and but I think it's more of a teaser. Okay, let's quickly have their little moment, you know, look at the spectacular thing that's just happened separate to keighley I think can go straight into challenging Roman a legitimate Challenger as well and keighley is a face, right and I think that down needs a top-tier face, especially a going against Rome and so long. I think that was kind of my line of thinking cuz again after the Uso's what sort of a top-tier facing and put them against and I ended up with Keith Lee I know obviously demoing with someone a Joe but I think Keith Lee is someone that's rich Choi Go kind of thing and he definitely wouldn't look out of place and my last pick in the draft always lives change in titles, especially mid-tier titles. So I've played the whole of the her business to go over to SmackDown. Obviously these bodies with that because you know at the minute their money and fox like whoever's making money do you mean hence why I think they took the fiend like last time I don't think never aspect down but yeah. Yeah cuz I told you that but yeah, they live in mid to like cuz they won't I suppose a good choice is the top title. So move through and roaming around but I think the always love movement a title and obviously you can't just put one on one side and not the other so I just think yeah her business and obviously Bobby with the back to me with Smackdown and again one of those looks I think us title. Definitely suits Smackdown more than bra. I don't know why that's just a personal thing. I try not to concentrate. Yeah dog. History isn't was the longest sexually. Yeah. Yeah, actually yeah my 6s went down on Charlotte Flair Johnny Gargano Rakesh lyrics She her business and Undisputed era wage and expect that most of them big shot down. So raw gets Braun naturally again. I think that's the give me one. I think at least get a point on the board. I think it's more that I'm worried about home then obviously that yeah just to get a point often could be happy with one hour twelve. I think at this right Sami Zayn obviously naturally because obviously if and if her business is moving over it's not done with obviously the title if one gets go go over. So Saddam Hussein goes over to Raw we are Ripley I've put her into what was war now. I mean who what else is there really for asking obviously ask is not really part of now the Bailey Sasha Banks storyline too much. And obviously, I think you kind of want to make it separate to show off obviously dead. The women's division. So I think you need someone in pretty immediately to challenge for Oscar and I think we Ripley's definitely someone who's been in the Limelight off the four in Charlotte Flair WrestleMania are just think it's someone who no one would really sort of sort of wonder why if you put you know, rear it really straight to the top of the card against Attica and hey if Rhea Ripley even wins, I don't think it's the worst thing in the world as much as you know, Oscar is by far in my opinion the best women's wrestler out there AJ Styles needs a change. So I've put them over to rule out and see I thought about that because obviously Paul heyman's on Smackdown and obviously yes. No, no love lost. There was definitely not and I just think he should be doing much more and I'm not saying Jo so I just I don't know. It was just kind of out of all people AJ Styles like I regard AJ Styles the way up there wage. And kind of you know send Jo so kind of go over him was kind of a big deal for me and I didn't know again normally on a loss. They liked kind of move people around. So I just simply remove Tire like or maybe if the image about him. Yeah well weekend, it's someone new and again Drew AJ match, you know, I'm sure Dave Meltzer with rate that at least over time. So I think that's God do some. Okay, maybe as much as well company man. I'm not sure. I don't like him with Corbin will go through as well. I just think he suits the weird promos R orders and obviously the extended three hours and you know the slow song. These are just think it suits him a lot more than Smackdown which guys and cram everything into ours Roars definitely more. So to King Corbin and again, he's pretty much had all the midcard few to think that he dead. I phone smart down and then my last one is Ms. And Morrison go over to draw as well again, just think the tag team thing is the message personally in an Ideal World. You'd put all the type teams in one sort of brand just to kind of legitimize it instead of just coming up with two random people and then just sticking tag titles on them. But yeah, I think James Morrison whether it's individually or as a pair in, you know, don't offer a lot more too raw and story lines going forward. So yeah. So Braun Sami Zayn, lyrically a g Stylo in Corbin and Ms. And Morrison is it's quite it's quite a lot of similarities cuz I've got I've got Ms. Emerson and AJ Styles going to Raw to Gio's got caught going to Raw is funny dream Leafly to SmackDown so you can see where everyone's heads are out to be fair. Like we were all going to get this really really wrong and we won't be added ever do another dog. Across the bed I would just you know, the gods of wrestling God knows what my fans in Iran are going to think cuz yeah, it's like around is a party of most outside of the home most downloaded country. Like we begin around boys. 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"The change hello again every one. We'll come back to ghost with twin peaks podcast on Charles. L. Skaggs one of your co host this fine evening that's fine sweltering one hundred degree almost evening here in Columbus Ohio and ready to toxin twin peaks with my other co host who's little under the weather today hopefully feeling a little better and that sense browse of course hisen Hi Charles. I'm not doing today in there yeah. I'm hanging in there for those of you out to the podcast land. I have have atrial fibrillation team. A. Fib the Feb yes and so today was a bad day so I'm sorry you had a bad day and thank you very much to watching some twin peaks. We'll cheer you right back up. That's going to help the F. Nothing has nothing to do with my mood or my. It's not just hopefully yeah sometimes my hurt. This is not today not doing this today. Stupid heart stupid stupid cupid for me being a wimpy and dying and stuff. What's up with that cut it out one of those grinch moments? It makes it bigger three sizes more. I know that way. If there's any sort of you just need to like give some Christmas presents back I guess from gala free and I have a backup there you go. You need it yeah you. Where's your by pulmonary system seriously. What's up with that right exactly. There's little doctor who've reference for you people that you know you should be listening of course next up everywhere. So you know about all this stuff. They were talking about all right so twin peaks We're GONNA talk here at episode sixty one. We're GonNa Talk Brings Back some memories as I get all choked up like Bobby Briggs Deputy Bobby Briggs as it turns turns out. What a strange turn of events. His life is taken obviously he got his life on track. We'll talk about that for part. Four of twin peaks the return as we do our commentaries continue those here and before we get into that though I just real quick quick one kinda give it a little twin peaks news nothing major. That's been kind of a quiet week. Thankfully nobody died on US harangue so everybody. Nobody you know. Take your vitamins. Stay alive. We don't need that don't die. Don't I don't we didn't retired of reporting dead actor news good advice as for Doug Jones and everyone else exactly but so the news I got this week is just kind of an update on Sheryl. Lee Ian Ray wise remember wasn't too long ago that Dan and I were very fortunate enough to see ray wise and Shirley near we're here at the studio thirty-five theater and Draft House and we got to watch twin peaks fire walk with me and washed a little. QNA with them got autographs and pictures the pictures of yet. We're not supposed to talk about the pictures. Sorry leaving out of it brings back memories so you know we kind of talked about that. xanadu least had. Ed mentioned this that they were kind of Mike mcgraff owner. The host of the event was kind of talking about getting that it's to be replicated at other various places across the country. Well guess what kids if you're in the Milwaukee Okay Wisconsin area or the Chicago area or the surrounding right somewhere in the civil two hour drive. I think you should go pretty much. I would go three ours personally for for ray wise and Shirley heck yeah ooh they're going to be appearing at the Twenty Nineteen Milwaukee Film Festival and apparently this is according to the Milwaukee record that they're gonna be screening of course twin peaks fire walk with me at the film. Home Festival on Tuesday October twenty nine twenty nineteen foul the by reportedly and extended conversation with actor Ray wise and Sheryl Lee and a film after party so there's an after party didn't get an after party and and we'll give fans and film of the film and the TV show a chance to celebrate the nineteen ninety two David Lynch directed cult classic beyond the theater. Oh so so pretty sweet just passed along you want to look out for any of our fellow peaks geeks out there around the Milwaukee Chicago area yet little heads speaking speaking of Mike McGregor You guys should all be following. Mike Greener presents on facebook so you can see especially if you're in the Columbus area again within two hour drive. I would say Mike been trying to get an event to come here to Columbus to meet. PJ souls and that was supposed to happen on the twenty seventh and twenty eighth of September number but unfortunately that is not going to happen is postponed until November didn't know that yes and again it depends on advanced ticket sales so so if if you like twin peaks you're probably into colty movies like how gain or Carey or rock and roll highschool that kind kind of stuff which is what's going to be showing along with. PJ souls actually being there and it's been moved to November and unfortunately I will be able to make it. I Yeah Yeah I had tickets for this twentieth. September twenty seventh show and I will be out of town for the postponed one so you guys should refund yes I did. Mike got me a refund immediately which was really nice and then thank you very much. I appreciate that but I will be out of the country so I will be unable to to be unable to make it as much as I want to. I'm considering slipping. Mike like you know the forty dollars it would require but we'll see so like. I said this has been postponed so you have some more time but make your decision now because all depends on advanced ticket sales so make sure you make sure you do that and of course macaroni brainers continuing his series of David Lynch Films Worte. I Yep so next weekend here in Columbus I think you said the twenty-first right so that is he's GonNa be airing or showing Mohammed Dr one of my favorite David Lynch films. Is this hands down my favorite billy ray Cyrus movie yeah well. This is also a great one because Naomi Watts is is in it and hey we just have to be talking about an episode that introduces Naomi Watts as Jean. Did you see how it kind of Segue laid-back into the twin peaks thing a little bit. They're perfect good job. That's because the pro now I'm not a professional. I've I'm absolutely not a professional at all but when you act like one even though you're not paid like what I'm a I'm a good liar. I guess I'm so good. I'm so good I even enfold myself house that we're hairdresser news for sure yes so speaking of which return part four you ready to talk about it. We'll get We'll get ready here. In a minute this of course aired on May Twenty the eight th two thousand seventeen written of course by Mark Frost David Lynch directed by Yada Yada in addition of course to the introduction introduction of Naomi Watts is Jenny Jones. We get let's see here. Let me run down the cast list so we get the return of David Duke Coveney as Denise Denise Bryson which is so mazing which is fantastic and I'm so glad he was willing to reprise that character very cool we get the introduction of Robert Forster is Sheriff Frank Truman excellent because obviously his brother Harry s not available has the cancer has the cancer so yeah. F- cancer everybody F- Cancer Yep Let's see the return of David Decimal Chiens pit boss work mark we get the introduction of Michael Sarah as Wally Brando. Yeah we can probably figure out something else talk about yeah. Sorry little dramatic sting there uh-huh yeah we'll for exactly Dune Dune Hooker Up Cup exactly Richard Chamberlain makes a cameo as Bill Kennedy crazy awesome yeah that Richard Chamberlain you show gun Richard Chamberlain that Guy Let's see what else oh and there's a nice oh you get in direction of James. Morrison is warden. Murphy were Dwight Murphy and there's a Nice Little Easter egg for twin peaks fans. Sabrina S Sutherland one of the executive producers of twin peaks. The return makes a little appearance as floor attendant Jackie Speier in the in the Silver Mustang Casino tastic so look offer her a little trivia there on that one pretty condition to obviously the great Miguel Ferrer Albert Rosenfield power flour and our Rosen Flower David Lynch of course Gore and Coal Cristobal's tammy pressed in in theory goes can Robertson Return Data Ashburn is Bobby Briggs so lots of things to like about this episode and for those of you playing the home game of course I'm at. We're we're at the one minute thirty three mark least I am. Why are you ready right after the floor stuff's right right after the floor stop spinning. Yes the Chevron floor yet you just when if turns to black right after the spinning Chevron Ron floor that's where we are okay so let me get. My Secondary Ear buds in there. We're so high tech here. A ghost would very high tech Techie high-tech you can ever get all right so everybody's ready and we'll do this in three two one drink. Oh right yes mine. Mine is screwed up. Okay sorry everyone technical difficulties. Sorry sorry due to do due to Blu. Ray Player. Just decided to restart on me here. Please standby standby while we're doing this. I Wanna I know if you saw the tweet from Russ Tamblyn. I I did about west side story not about west side story. It was a photo of a Donald in Nevada trump. Holding Golden Shovels didn't see that one has the picture and then the caption is I feel personally attacked Nice. Now I saw it was a picture of Tamblyn with Steven Spielberg. None of Spielberg's remake a west side story which I'm still not sure what I feel about that but you know it's it's Russ Tamblyn approved. Apparently that's that makes me feel a little bit better about this whole situation. I don't know if it's Richard Baber approved or not well yeah who knows but it's been oh how fun Horn so you know we got we got we gotta take you know Dr Amp over over Ben Horne right. I gotta all right okay so I'm ready so we're going to do a countdown again okay. Let's do it again so everybody's hopefully apologized for the difficulties pirate right back and back on the like. I said the one minute thirty three just after getting floor exactly so we'll do this again in three into one lay. That's better here. We beautiful downtown Las Vegas Alarms. Were blaring. Oh Yeah I forgot about him with his name from a stranger things. o- On women took it back to them. I can't Oh hello. He's Mr Mr. He's Mr Jackpot. It's look at those giant quarterback. It's once again. I'm just saying here that so I think that woman women just running around with the bucket. I think that was bring Sutherland if I'm not. I think you're right. I think you're right like I said before taking somebody who plays pinball a couple of times a week. I want those quarters. We're all about the quarters yeah. I think that's her right there. I think that's her I'm not sure he'd was talking about for stranger. Things David Desk Malchin no one next to a very what's his name Oh. I don't know that Guy oh I can't think of his name. Let me let me pull them up here. Sorry time we get some more red room. emojis and slot-machine lady is going for it said now go over one very murray. The actor's name is Brielle Murray Yeah. I didn't realize I was Murray from strange things that is Murray from stranger. Nearly as bad of a comb over it nearly as bad of a coma in his beard is not nearly as as a bushy in epic got it so he's not speaking Russian. There's that too well. He's thirty jackpots. Thank you Mr Jackpots yeah now. Maybe I can take a shower you ever really yeah when she when she kinda like wipe all that year of Grind Bluff Ethan suppler everybody did that is but you don't know who ethan supplement. Don't don't please inform me. Did you ever watch My name is earl. No that would probably why don't no no better okay yes he. He's Randy in. My name is earl but did you ever see mallrats. Yes Oh is that the guy is that the sailboat like see the sailboat. Oh okay well now. I know what you're talking to see that I know Gacek checked. That's wow I didn't realize that was him even separately all grown up. Wow Yeah hopefully he finally. I saw this weight no he did. That's right. The caption said he never saw the sailboat in the end yeah. He finally seems to really yeah now. Wasn't it was his era Paxton. Yes who is the like sixth or seventh cousin of Bill Paxton. It's the same the same standards. The distantly related okay now. She plays a character named Cy Candy Shaker whose in no relation to Gandhi Command Ian Sandy Yeah Yeah no this. There are a couple here in what's going on is they're finding dougie. You're telling Dougie where he he lives right. So and of course dougie is cooper. Although Cooper is extremely adult at the moment yes exactly he's basically the his poor fate was to become the old waiter. I don't think he's okay so let's just go ahead head and let him walk out the door to. God knows where we can take the initiative there and help yes seriously. I wonder if they could just let him leave like would they be able to just keep the money if they just let him leave. It'd be pretty funny. Yes David David Desma login dude. You're being escorted by Abracadabra on the flash just just little tidbit. Who's he gonNA and do it again. Oh Hyder I believe putter debris cider degrees yeah which is a good call. You seem to like that call well. I do like that call. I think that I like doing jesting casting yeah yeah. He's very interesting actor. He's really interesting in Mahone Falls. Oh yeah that's right. I forgot about him in the in the restaurant. I I you know I know right. I guess there's a double movie day. Yeah exactly he's going to have to go see you so yes so here we go. We've Murray Goldman trying to give Doug Jones like thousands of dollars in a bag and I ll it's just a sackful of money. It's I'm spreads. It doesn't have a dollar sign on the side of the bed should have it would have been so great but this is the giant sack of money like we could have got your briefcase or something a little more tasteful. No got his canvas sack. We could have written you a cashier's. Let's check your gift card. Yeah we're GONNA get you. Whatever you want you want. Some you want some food. You want some horrors. I got you a pen holder with the dice on it plays a classy so now all of the fact that the room is like really darkly lit and no cabs you get a Limo Sir Doug Jones. What's Doug Jones. FBI Jones FBI. I am the FBI. I love it. He probably spent like you know so he did how many jackpots thirty thirty jackpots jackpots but wasn't it wasn't how many of them were for the old lady at least two yeah so it's like you know for less than ten dollars. Probably he just to give dollars yeah. I'm doing the subtitles as well on this. Just come back to our yes. I'm back to our casino and please put more money in day day or night. We're open twenty four hours kind of like seven eleven. Earthquake haven't come and knock on natural. We'll be waiting for you Erin Earth amply for you security GAM. You're on candid security can yeah. We're always watching you so we know this occurred riddick Mister Jerry Cameras. They're not going to pick up a they're not going to pick up the red room. Emoji so yeah fortunately on Lancelot court. There's only one house of the red door a red door right read forces a red door at you know what else would it possibly be twin peaks. We ought actually this is vegas but the show is the show is twin peaks a that's what I meant the overarching show twenty six. This is the universe that is twin peaks. You should have like Chevron Walkway up to the front porch though or like a Chevron entry way. Yes Yeah Shit Chevron driveway there. It is red door. There's your door right there. Mr Jones welcome to Elizabeth Arden. I'm just gonNA keep sitting here. I don't know what to do. How bad was this accident that he's right not surprised nobody's surprised at how he acts you think limo driver who probably wouldn't know him would be a little concerned. You would think so yeah I keep hoping for good things for Doug Jones and JT in somebody nobody offers like do you need to go to the hospital. I love that it's yeah you just. I don't think he's okay but yeah. You can just go get a cab. He's funny. He's got a big bag of money. He's good yeah. I'm sure thing that he'll be perfectly safe the big bag of money in vegas giant bag of cash in the middle of Las Vegas ads. He's fine. It's all good all right. I'll wait here to make sure you get in the house because you know something could happen to you on the way from here to the porch or mad if his neighborhood is anything like a Rancho Rosa. He's GonNa get rolled on his way to his door one one nine when nine. Let's play some cards and do some heroin. Ignore your count. I'm going to go ahead and say it Charles watching watching this again. I'm a little bit wou. What is that. What did you just hear how was that. That's not what they seem not what they seem yeah. The owls are watching. I mean yeah. They should buddy especially when you're next to him. NAOMI WATTS everybody. Take Sidekick Tako psychic. Yes Naomi Watts who is like take girls sidekick Australian Yup. Where the hell are you been Dougie. Nothing says true love a slap across the face. He's is trying to help. He's Mr Jackpots. Sadly she was able to smack some sense into him so he's apparently been gone for three days as he missed. Sonny James Birthday and here's the thing during those three days even before he was Cooper Dougie and he was Dougie Dougie. He's instead going to a sense birthday. He's he's with jade but honey J. Gift to rides Jacob to rights yeah. It's not not cool. Doug like Jones. No no no no but where'd you get that black suit and how are you. How are you suddenly hot. It's exactly like how come you lost. I all that weight and in three days and you have a bag full of money and now you have three hundred thousand dollars did. Did you win all this money cow mclachlan. I'll sentinel we could hot ready. Look the mayor of Portland. You look like daisies dead on Asia's shield. How does that happen. Did you see that picture of Colin mclachlan on Twitter Holding Towel thing I've ever seen excellent and there's like a thousand comments that say they're not what they seem. So twin peaks fans you need. He has to know it's going to do that. Every time he does that. Oh he has to know that Mr Jackpots you want all this money so we actually have this money. I'm curious as to how this when you win this kind of money on each Charles at a casino. How're you taxed on it. I would know because I've never won that kind of money casino. No I have no idea oh there's enough here to pay back so we don't know there's trouble there. In some kind of trouble right now and we we have see here's the thing you know. Three hundred thousand dollars is gonNA. Get anybody who is mad at you. Tanabe Matt and Doug told you a real want to go to Hollywood and become an actress. I think I'M GONNA I'm GonNa fix you a sandwich and then go get your piece of cake. Do you find me attractive. I find you attractive. Actually that's a couple of well. Nothing you know nothing turns on your wife more than a big bag of money anybody seriously you know the. Chad could come over if you like what you do. Let's not push it is his Chad. It would take a million dollars could take a lot of money a lot more money. Dr Kildare Everybody Ah David View who did not grow up in the seventies with MOMS that watch the thornbirds this the the famous Richard Chamberlain a famous heartthrob and prime time Heartthrob Yup and one of the one of the early famous coming out stories. He is a gay man an and has done a lot for gay rights which is awesome is fantastic a pioneer yourself breath and to hear him talk. It's and I think he's he's a really interesting person because to hear him talk about it talks about how he guess who's back then it's. Fox Drag now around this time around around the time of the return of twin peaks. There was also the return the X. Files going on this is this is a good time for fans of the company was so big X. Files Fan so I am a heap jags files fan. I definitely didn't expect him to be twin. Peaks through return so when they made that announcement I was all excited jealous of agent Preston barely thirty beautiful barely thirty. I'm old school. I like French hookers out soon. Does she speak a little French yep sometimes back when he was Dennis and he worked for Gordon and now she's the boss of everybody liked. Gordon talking about here how he stuck up for Denise. He's at the bureau. told all your colleagues heart six which which is a great statement which is fantastic. I WANNA Credit Lynch shirt and I WANNA pass that out to everybody. WHO's protesting testing the pride parades fixture hearts our guy people fix your hearts or die so the chief of staff of the entire hire F. B. I. Good Job Denise. She's moving on moving on just love Sings Federal Bureau of Investigation all at once an abbreviated uh-huh Cooper does they're so they're so adorable and Bryce Brayson was never blue rose Wuzzy. That's why fifty survived long enough to become denise and be that's. WHOA that's why he moved up in the bureau yeah exactly because everybody else either disappeared or died or became insane. Yep or both David Duchovny is a woman is very stylish wears. She's well. I think sometimes I I think they did a good job with this because sometimes when they have male actors who are playing the females and drag or transgender people with sometimes but this looks like it could be his actor your spare keys beat and you know. It's not too much lipstick. It's not too much I make. They did a really good job with her very subdued and if you think about it we've talked about this here on the podcast that did these bryson was a trans pioneer character. Yes very much. Denise was Trans before there was really trans on television so before we even really rapped over the mainstream America let's head around the concept exactly. It doesn't actually tell you what's going on when no one's here so here's Lucy you always kind of wonder what Lucy's up to when nobody's looking and this is a a fascinating exploration of this yes yes she's. She's very concerned with. She's it's very concerned with the details of very trivial things. Yes we come in early in the heat still on over thinks things yes I love. She puts it's so much energy into figuring out the thermostat but can't figure out how cellular phones work and that's what we're about to see here. We're about to see that yes but it's a great pratfall. Everybody and she does a good job. It's pretty epic. Lucy has some cute close to I live. She still dresses the same with this cute little skirts the sweaters so here's Robert Forester as frank and Robert Furthur who as a replacement character for Harry I think was is a really inspired choice now when she filmed that she falls back on this padded yes. They said she was okay. So kimmy Robertson was okay obviously but yeah. It's a nice little stunt couldn't stand out in the parking lot on they. I hate cellular cellular phones and what I think is so funny is that you know repre hit around this candy she pretty much everyone has had a cell phone in one way shape or another for at least a decade at this point you know even the people who were resistant to cellular phones even even my eighty year old. Mom can wrap your head around this a little bit Lucy Mr Honey Yep now here we get get to see the two thousand seventeen version of the twin peaks Sheriff's department. It's obviously grown since nineteen ninety ninety nine hundred ninety one and they've got a dispatcher now. They've got a few more deputies Chad. Look at that Nice setup. The dispatchers got some funding after they had some people die more than three of us. You guys will remember that. You know they've got connection. Hairy had connections to Gordon Cole some so maybe Gordon a few calls on here to help out a little bit yeah. That's what I'm thinking especially especially if he was trying to put some reconnaissance on Cooper in the lodge. Maybe I would think so too trying to figure out where possibly gone so. Maybe this is the last time we saw cooper. According to kiss who is Bobby Briggs body brings is a copy. You guys watts what's. I don't think any of these people knew that bobby killed a guy. He Killed The guy. I'll have to think that he probably left that off his application. I think he's probably leaving it off. The resume yeah exactly so we still got drugs running in through twin twin peaks. Let's see year. Nineteen Nineteen ninety-one see dealt drugs at the twin peaks. High School killed a guy so yeah I I know the legal system yeah that thanks for sharing that bobby thank you. I didn't need to know that I yeah exactly. Oh these their mobile punky. I love that after all these years and he still calls Lucy Punky. I think his his pet name for her. This is the most successful to antiques love story pretty much. I mean they had they had a kid together. They stayed together as far yeah. As far as we know they never separated yeah exactly so obviously big. Ed and Norma finally get their act together. Finally Louis Find Too long but you know Lucy Nandy pretty much the most successful romance long-term yeah on the show they had they they had a rocky start at the beginning with Dick Cheney and Dick Dick Andy so sweet. I wonder if that's really Michael Sarah photoshopped into that photo back there behind her it is it looks like it looks like Michael Sarah because I'm looking at my IPAD. I could see it up close okay. It looks a lot like him. Chad Chad Ed for those of you who might have forgotten we. Hey Chad Chad can suck it. Something's missing you know. Chad even here you had nothing to do with the Laura Palmer case to get the hell out. This is not for johnny-come-latelies wall outside seriously seriously and I got bored. He looks like idea how important this case was to the lives of everybody here and all I can do is mock Andy. That's what he's there for apparently and here's the thing he's not even as good at mocking. Andy as he could be like he's not he's not. He's not basically fails on every level yeah. He's not even at Albert levels the commute back in style chew on that Ha Ch check it the fuck out. Get the hell out of here. Chad whatever yes e- nobody wants to hear checks. Nobody likes likes you get the F out Chad Yeah. I'm not usually this much of a bully you guys. I just really bad in Chad's cases. Chad is the one exception into the bully rule. Well chat the bully I right so so. It's okay to bully ably yeah because I'm the cowards so he's got to be hard on body and I remember watching this. Do we get to the Laura Palmer seem and everything just really go just look. This is a good job that he's doing here. It reminds me of the scene where he is being interviewed by Cooper and he breaks down and he says she may be do drugs drugs and that's really good analogy yeah. He does a great job right here. I was very very impressive. Ashburn at this moment here you kind of forget you. Kinda forget that. Hey Dana Bash Brooke can act well and the thing is bobby is a complex complex character. You know bobby puts on a real peacock fronts but that senior was just talking about where he is breaking down for a Sheriff Truman in Asian Cooper. There's a lot more to bobby and even though scenes that you have with those heart to heart scenes he has with major briggs and the time he's The Times. He's talked to his mother that scene where he and his mother talking right before Major Briggs comes home you know there. There's he's not he's not Mike Mike. It's just a jerk through through you know but there's you know even when Mike is with Nadine and he's a little bit nicer. It's it's because of the sex is good likes her. He's still he's still a jerk and but bobby's not bobby's Dhabi's have much more complex character than he would lead usually bobby has depth and because of that he was able to evolve and grow and change. He's he's not the the you know. Just the obnoxious punk obviously that it wasn't high school right right. He's grown. He's actually now on you know. He's a police officer now so obviously quite a change from his past quite a change and you know with everybody who who is in here even even bobby. There's a MSG three quick K. quote that I'm reminded of that. It says if bad movies have taught us anything. It's that small town. COPS hold their belts a lot a great quote yeah stick it when all right so. I'm just going to know what happened to Major Briggs. Major Briggs was killed in a fire right right after two of the obviously killed off Don Davis's character yes. He's although why of course we saw his head floating around in space episode three. We don't know though okay so here's Michael Sarah. It's as Wally Brando right now now. If you took kind of like went for like coffee or something at this point I would not hold it against you know I would not I would not against you either. He does tell us a little bit the Harry's Godfather so which I think is kind of Funny Godfather other and Marlon Brando and even though he's dressed as the wild one yes now obviously he's doing his best Marlon Brando impression here but rights and I think that with the when it comes to Marlon Brando if you're going to have an image image of Marlon Brando that just says Marlon Brando I think his character in the wild one is what would do it right so that's kind of more one of his definitive roles all staten the gods definitive look to that we we think of him that I think is an older man he would be definitely the Godfather the Tuxedo accede. Oh and the cat and all that sort of thing but just Brando in general I think this this look you look at that and you immediately now. This person's doing Marlon Brando. Now you look at somebody in the Tuxedo named the Godfather. Maybe they're not but that that had that leather jacket that ringer shirt shirt that's. That's the perfect now obviously if if you're doing a if you ever GonNa do a twin peaks parody of this scene you should have while he brando addressed as Brando as Jor El from Superman movie right. You can't exactly just have to on white robes. I'll be how hilarious that be. It would be incredible I would I would watch that a- and so that can make the scene a lot more tolerable in my opinion. I think so too it just goes on a little too long and I was. I was started to say see this a little a little bit earlier when we were watching dougie stand outside of his house for a few minutes that I am a little little bit more patient with this series as it's going on there are some things that I'm still get on with that and this is one of them but I've talked it before about how it was so impatient during the series to find out what happened to everybody to find out what happened to Cooper to find out what happened to Audrey Audrey to find out what happened to so many unanswered questions by this point yeah yeah and so. I like you know things like this this to me. You were just getting in the way that obviously we hadn't seen audrey by this point so we hadn't seen audrey by this point and we hadn't seen we have yeah we normally we haven't seen We haven't seen the double lar. We don't know what's going on with Dr Jacoby. We don't know who Dr Anne Piazza. I don't know where Nadine either so many things we've seen being. James and we've seen we've seen shelley. Shelly the roadhouse you're right. Yes we're going on about James. Yes yes and she said that JAS has always been cool. We know shelley has a daughter but we're not a hundred percent sure who with bobby still around so we're thinking Navy Shelly and Bobby. I don't know but somebody there's a lot of there's a lot of things that are unanswered that and to spend so much time on a character that will never see again. I just think it's not a longtime think of how long we've been talking about this scene all right yeah. That's that's the thing I mean. This is not right. There should give you a great indication of how drawn out the scene is and it's amazing that David Lynch if you remember watching the special features on this he had Michael Sarah do this in one take right and then asked him to do it again yeah exactly and so he's got you know and this there's nothing against Michael. Sarah and there's nothing against David Lynch in this I mean I think it's Michael. Sarah does a good job and it's kind kind of funny because you know this young kid acting like this nineteen fifties character and how his parents raise him him to be to be this guy you know. How did this happen that sort of thing. it's over yeah and there was much rejoicing yes. It's just that when I want to know but you know it's David Cooper already. Yes please how how much do I love that jacket century twenty one jacket Nokia Twenty one jacket is when he already had on. That's the Goldwyn yes though when it was okay I love that color of green. Here's Mike Mike is going what the heck is going on. Something's Ron. I can't get good cell reception means their Mobile Punky Nice A. He's reaching out to cooper through the void. Oh Charles all this furniture all electricals consider. It's so great then. Vegas is a great place to find make mid century furniture is in Vegas became a thing so you see me. Don't you so yeah you're kind of tiny. Although you're kind of little in your in the chair that a little bit of an and thing going on with this chair right now you were tricked act oh nice twist right and there's little pebble. F- little by little BB. That's where the aggressive you so. He's trying to get through to either cooper or Dougie don't yeah I don't I P now. I have to learn how to now we doing the Dougie he danced the dougie. SHUFFLE SHUFFLE YEAH DUE TO TO MR MR MR dream weaver. Go potty said how do I do that. He has no idea what to do. I hope you'll get down his pajama bottoms yeah. I hope he did for his sake. I hope he did but yeah. I can't you know being being an adult. I don't remember what it was like to not know now what to do a lot of pe- but I can only imagine not knowing what's going on with your body and then peeing and how amazing that would feel stay away from the Bathroom Mirror. Don't even now so well in especially with this angle. Oh it's essentially kind of a recreation of the twin peaks originally finale. It's the same jams to yes Lukin Start Pajamas Nice. Nice little not there but obviously he's looking for Bob but doesn't see Bob's face. He's looking for something. He's not sure what he's looking for but he requested me look in the mirror saw Bob's face but this time now he didn't. He lost way twin yeah slightly. Don't you notice like how observant Ervin argue that jacket looks. Also you know three colors too loud for his job right now now. He's a very easily trendsetter that dougie yeah fashion forward. Jasmine is Mr Jones ws doing his tie which is pretty hilarious. I love that they they call their kids sunny. Jim Well if otherwise you think about it. It's Jim Jones. Yeah think about you know like that. Jim Jones not a good look I wouldn't I wouldn't give that kid kool aid. Let's just say no no that that I that all ripley yeah so thumbs up from Dougie wore exactly so so oh you'll like Cooper Oregon where Lynch's like get trying to give Cooper fans glimmer of hope this is our yeah. This is this is our. Are you know our little cooper glimpses. That were you alice. Listen to Dave Brubeck. Take five the Dave Brubeck. Quartet Doug doesn't know how to wear a tie. It still kills do thorough cute to to do my goodness like he's ready to go shout Banzai so I kept thinking to when this when this story was going on that something was going to happen when Dougie has the sensation of Maple Syrup colliding with Ham like maybe together. I don't see any Bacon pancakes which is a crime by the way they can should always be served with pancakes. Always I know I'm a huge breakfast. Guy Always you can fake takes takes up space. No no no no no compliments it. I guess because it because the savory offsets the sweetness of the buttermilk pancakes the other thing if I don't eat sweet pancakes. I don't put Syrup on pancakes. I don't either put butter. Yeah this jeff but a good pancake. Mix has a little sweetness in it. yeah talk about it yeah I'm very serious about this. I understand they could make a bigger pay. Cakes kicks take him beginning to put it in a pancake pancakes antics. I want pancakes. Luke got a nice classic. Agile went right about now. All right I have you know is just right around the corner from me right. You're like fitting tempting right now and I just had at dinner. I haven't eaten today. We gotTA HURRY REP substitute and get some dinner. Put some syrup do this thing no. Ham Bertha him colliding with my maple Syrup exactly like almost cremated Bacon. Where's my coffee. Black is black as midnight on a moonlit night night yeah but it's right because by this point he hasn't rediscovered he discovered coffee yet not yet and I thought that was GONNA do it. I kept y'all did we all did because he has some coffee. This is is why we felt so cheated because it should have coffee like you know his his coffee. Intake level rises the more we we more. We get Cooper. That's the way that was my theory yeah well and with with C. J. Quick Progress Bar. It goes from red to like yellow. Oh here's your coffee. I am Dougie's coffee. I am AH FI like I said see turned into the old way. You thought it was kidding about that now. I did not think he were kidding and then Oh oops. It's hot remember her. I got to work in more more than one time in the episode now yes so we get the return of gene. Adams's constance yeah and here she's trying to run the fingerprints of the body that was found with the the head and access denied so and I love that is like one of those little eighty nineteen eighties style pop up warnings. It's that you get on computer. Wargames exactly like warning government you know database or whatever comes up up and there's the future Mrs Mr Constance Talbot. I hope so those crazy kids had to stay together. Oh my gosh I hope they stay together became like the cynical happily married couple. Please so adorable obviously we lost him. Miguel Ferrer but we have to hope that our lived on. I would like to think that Albert lived on that would be really Jane. Addams by the way is also so in clause so twin peaks connections to the show clause nice I should be. I should be watching that that I am a broad picture for you. HEFF faces of stone hours like whatever did whatever dude once at Martine you mentioned twenty five years of listening to that show surprise didn't just jump out a window cortesi Preston. No carsick cars thick jerking the car for Egypt. Preston sit bill nye. The science guy is the driver now. Oh I love that channel UAE. You're on the wrong side right out of the bed for Albert not in our world now. That's the thing denied that is GonNa get is GonNa help at the FBI in the military enrolled in this whole major briggs debacle so so yeah. I still think that Tammy Preston is a tall drink water missile that this everybody should be a little bit more excited about the fact that Cooper's finally shouldn't back up again. Well probably guarded. Maybe they've been fooled before. Perhaps yeah they don't Wanna get their hopes up. Oh Albert he's already. He's already starting in MHM insulting the the master of shade insulting the locals albertson acquired taste. He's very much an acquired taste but the foundation of such a belief is love love each Cooper Doug leg machine-gun dogleg dog breath apologies in advance for Albert. One of the best lines of this show the return. That's gotTa always apologize for our ads and not a good look for you. Spur dam only jump and George. Somebody is in dire need of a makeover. Yo Get rid of that bullet with the great because damn now Russia damn her decorated coming here soon cause a never. GonNa find find out that Cooper knows who's there for the for the thing. You didn't lifts up. Can I say how very excited I am to be talking about this episode with us in very very irrev- excited I agree with you. Oh Donna Donna It's Elvis no thumbs up in a super creepy thumbs up but that's the that's the mark of the cooper trying really hard to convince him. It's Oh I did not notice this beforehand. Era of was written in the subtitles is the captions. Excuse me something's is wrong with the Cooper and the way they're they're talking to him. They know there's it's almost like they're speaking in code. Yeah yeah that's the thing and he's but you know the problem is is that because has Mr C. is part cooper. He knows some things about cooper but I still feel like Gorden. Albert should know that this is not you know and Mister C's giving him this total. Bs Story of you know like hey hey. I was working undercover with Phillip Jeffries yet known you weren't Jeffries. We watched him disappear in nineteen eighty eight right of course Mr C. is speaking very oddly. Yes yes I was on my way to present it to you. When I stopped and killed a bunch of people over across the road see at Cooper would look like he has his hair he would. He wouldn't have dog leg in his trunk right. Norwood cocaine. You know he would not have he also wouldn't have not talked to talk to Gordon for this amount of time so so so coop you explain why you have Bob Hair Yeah. Do you want to explain like why you're repeating yourself and what the heck is going on while you're speaking very monotone voice. No you didn't leave messages. You know the messages that I left. I left him with with somebody. You know the girl I left them with the girl with a you know he still works there rate. Oh we're going to get right on that about getting you know. We're right on that cooper like we're in like a laser. Trust relax and see this is the thing is that Cooper Bert Cooper would know that she has to leave that you know I it cooper did some things he would know that he has to be in prison before he is able to be exonerated from that so he's. Oh what does that mean. I've never really left home. Yeah aw numbs gives him another thumbs up thumbs up again now obviously besides is dialed right and he knows that obviously this isn't cooper and he's trying to he's basically on a fishing expedition. Yeah something's wrong and he's well aware and everybody looks like what the F. was that. What did I listen to you. So Fi filed the charges. You don't want to give him his phone. Call Trust me on this know. That goes really really badly for you guys. I would not yeah good idea yeah I would not do. This doesn't end well but you know Oh. Hey tammy gets to speak finally yeah see. She's you know she's figured this out up now. She noticed they're using a blue filter in the scene because a blue rose does a blue Rose Phillip Jeffries. Oh David Bowie you asked me to that reminds me. I must you might watch my watch fixed well. You're not you're not blue rose yet so go wait in the car. I wish you were feeling better for real. Fu Cancer See Christabel. Just a bell needed to work harder to bring Miguel for back yard. Reaction Now seems before something you WanNa tell me Yeah. That's the thing. Is You know he's pretty he didn't have a whole heck of a lot to say and that's not like Albert Albertson when Albert is quiet yeah but oh what what did what did you do Albert. What did you do what the Hell is. The state of marksman mother pus bucket. Nobody steps on a church in my town seriously. Here's the thing to fast mega beverage. SINC- so yeah what what coordinates they wanted coordinates is a bad brad scenes. Yup Philip was our man in Columbia Yeah. That's not a good week later. A man was killed. What did you do just kiss already. What is it what did you do. Did you do let me just stare at now here like they look like they're communicating telepathically here at this point. They both know that something's wrong yeah but I mean just just they're both quietly staring one another and then there's there's like a little sounded than quits. I think David Lynch is doing a pretty good job here too. He's becoming a little young not known for being an actor. I think he's doing a really good job here but then again I think I think twin cheese. He's kind of facial expressions. I'll give him like this whole wincing thing right. I hear he's really good at also. I think this is very much his baby so there's really smart vestment. I I think it's part of him. You know so it's easier for him to relate to it. Yeah Sibling is very very era of wrong a hate to admit this but I don't understand situation at all at all which which is great so yes so if even David Lynch's confused by this. We have absolutely no chance we have no. I hope whatsoever people yeah Albert Blue Rose. That's all you can really say nope. That's the thing and I think that's that's. It's a good thing for these guys. They know that there's some things that just are not going to make any free consents. I know where she drinks. Where's Lil dancing. What happened to little so here we have our VOSS? Simone Russell Moan and doing one of their two songs that they due during twin peaks the return. This one is Lark mark but but after sure obviously we've had like a couple of really good ones. This is kind of a little bit of a letdown for me. This is not one of my favorites isn't it. It's not horrible but after you know after the chromatic and the cactus blossoms this one just does not have the same punch to turn this. I'm sorry you got a little thought. It was this guy pushing. This is where I really started to get this appointed when I would see the band at the roadhouse because I do the show was over now by this time you're into the routine yeah and I and I don't I don't want the show to be over you. You know there's so many things found out. We just started this like Oh. It's over already yeah and now we're now it's over and if you remember Charles this was on showtime. We'd wait an entire week right the next episode. Well you know we we get a little spoiled because at first they were showing like we saw the the first two episodes so back to back and then they posted episodes three and four on demand uh-huh so we can watch these and from this point on they just did once a week and so if it was torture. It's not like this is not like you know we're spoiled. Yeah just been stranger things indecorous over a weekend. What can you be on Netflix so we can wash it all now. I think we're GONNA broke in my brain. Though it yeah I think you have I did watch especially. This twin peaks the return. You have to watch it in increments so much dougy it can take in one sitting uh-huh quote me on that yeah you gotTa let it settle a little bit in your brain this part of the twin peaks and see now and now from here we don't really have because like the electricity crackling electric crackling always good but from here in the first episode sued when we when we first saw the roadhouse and we had James Walk in and we had some people talking over we don't now from here on out is just music nick. There's no you know there's no credit sequence. I guess yes really so it it's a disappointment a little bit so all right Carl so what's your reading for my rating for this one eight and a half of ten cell phones that Lucy doesn't understand. I like that. I'm going to give this when nine out of ten ties. That Dougie can't put on really like this one. I like this this one because I like Janey e I like in. I like the Doug Jones storyline. I mean if that if this were its own the thing you know I would watch Doug Jones storyline. I think and I and like I said I'm feeling a little bit more patient with it because I know what's GonNa Happen. I know he's going to become cooper. I know we have to do so. I'm just enjoying watching the dougie storyline unfold now that you know where the right goes where another the ride goes it. It's a little bit easier to to to wait to that right yeah so I think it's I think it's fun and I like the fact that we are. We're really making progress with this episode. You know we've got the FBI knows where Cooper is or so. Were they know something's going on and they know that's so we've got some movement with the FBI we got major briggs fingerprints in the system so we know we're going to have more with the FBI and we we learn a lot in this episode like body the cop and just starting there. There are a lot of good introductions in this episode. I mean we got a bunch bunch of new characters. get to see some more old friends ends and the Mr C. Mystery is really interesting by this point the MR C. Interest mystery is very interesting. I think into Dougie in the Doug Jones missed just got more interesting because the whole like we could pay them back. Like who would what's up with the like guys you money to yeah that becomes in itself a better story and we were talking about it. Were you see those glimpses of old Cooper of Cooper with the thumbs up and the drinking the coffee and you know I'm just GonNa take yeah yeah the little teases of things that are going to bring Cooper Back Jack and the fact that you know Mike's watching out for him to you know Philip Philip Gerard is watching over him and so so it feels like a little bit visit. The momentum starts in this episode now a Lotta people especially me know when we're watching this the first time we were hoping and Doug returned to cooper would be like a light switch. It'd be flicked like just like all sudden. Cooper would be back right but then it's more but it's more like the road backed for is back to Cooper is is not a light switch. It's more like a puzzle and you have to kind of like one pieces being laid and you have to kind of like the like a little bit of coffee here you know there's a little bit of you know the the pancakes and Mapplethorpe or whatever for and just little little tidbits of Cooper you know the the flag when he stares at the flag and whatnot things of that nature and then and all of that kind of finally pieces together in a cooper right right and I think that it was you know it it. It's a long mm time coming so I think for us to expect you know digits smack and have it be cooper again. I think was foolishly optimistic on our part that the slow-burn fits a little bit better with what we're used to. We just we just wanting cooper back. We're yes and still don't even know if we haven't but you know who knows he sees come on for four all right. We're going to you know we know. We're going to buy the damn new box set so you might as well season four's. Give us a season for me for is David Lynch. Mark Frost make the announcement spent you know Christmas is coming. It's a good time to do it. Gives us a nice little present before the holidays. You know it's coming back to showtime for season. Four seriously fingers crossed at least all right anything else before we do our little closing here. We did not get any feedback this time back either so listening and enjoying now we still need to get in touch with Chris Lassiter. Maybe I was I was thinking maybe like if we do like the first eight parts and then we can kind of maybe take a little break and then we can get work kristen and then we could do the last eight that works that worked some of the worst for Chris Yup. 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