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CL Matchday 1 Recap

Stoppage Time: Champions League

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CL Matchday 1 Recap

"Ah. What's up. Everybody welcome to the start of stoppage time. I your host max Baril and this is your podcast voted to the Champions League and the games have begun and Mr. Reed Ryan is here to talk about it with us. Read welcome back to the show. Thank you rocks. I gotta say, obviously, we've, we've done our eight preview episodes. You haven't listen to those. Check it out, but today lived up to the hype about for you. Absolutely. Matchday one of the books and and we had some absolute thrillers a couple of Champions League classics yet some really excellent start, you know, some rust here and there, but by and large, an excellent day a dramatic day. But before we get to the games read, I know you wanted to sound off a little bit on the coverage here in the United States. Obviously, if you're listening or watching these games abroad outside the United States, you're probably watching it in a different place with different announcers, and you are lucky for it. Read tells you thoughts. Yeah. So I went today to to to watch the games. Hold up in my apartment in in Brooklyn. To f s one anticipating to see, you know, my my good old, reliable Champions League broadcast, but it was nowhere to be seen. Maybe I showed a little done a little research, but it just felt like a given it just felt exam. So I went on to figure out where it was. It was on TNT with VR live there showing two matches of of the of the full slate. Only two were getting any airtime. They didn't cut to any of the highlights during the halftime of the post game show of the other matches. They briefly mention them, but gave us no coverage. I had to spend twenty minutes trying to figure out what Fudo TV was. I still don't know what it is and it's behind a paywall, so don't even care. That I'm top of that. The analysis by the in-studio staff was was rough. Tell that to the studio with with two guys and a and a woman sort of breaking down the highlights. And then I had like a tactical now says with Steve Nash, Stuart Holden. I don't know if you know who Steve Nash is, but he is a whole fame NBA point guard. Yeah, sure. He's a big soccer fan, but it's not like he was dropping insight bombs on us. Maybe they were trying to get a a regular guy to to be relatable, but I dunno max, I thought it was brutal to watch. It was a horrendous. And as you say, Steve Nash all-time great athlete, but this is not his sport. So he brings, frankly, as far as I'm concerned as much credibility to the table as you are. In which case, bring us on the show or stunned mash start a podcast like the rest of us, but you know, you don't just get to be on TV because you were good at basketball and you're apparently Tottenham fan. They didn't. Maybe I missed this, but there wasn't even a ticker on the bottom, showing the scores of the other matches. There was not all the. Yeah. So you get all your information from this one location? It was. It was horrible, horrible to to watch given that we still managed to enjoy ourselves. Did we not? Yeah. I mean, the games were great, but yeah, as you say, the, I ended up just fast forwarding through the analysis portion of things because as soon as I heard in the analysis of the Barcelona game, which it irritated me that they cut out, respond bellies goal from the highlights. Given that his I think was probably the nicest goal of that game that they just pretended like Messi scored. Messi scored all the goals that day. And one of the gentlemen. Said, well, messy is the reason why people talk about him. I'm like, well, thank you sir. For that. Excellent, excellent analysis. I mean, it doesn't take a lot to make apparently to make you miss Alexi Lalas, but I never thought it'd be saying that, but here we are and the man looks like professional compared to this. Well, we met is to suffer through that and we got, we got a slate of nice game. So why don't we just dive in and I'd like to echo your point. They might be totally reputable company. I don't trust fubo TV or whoever it is for a second. Good luck getting my credit card information. All right. We had to early games which almost caught me off guard almost sailed right past those bad boys, but but we had the too early slate of games and they, you know, featured some big teams. Let's start with Barcelona. Four v Einhoven nil rough. A rough display for PSV are Dutch champions. Messi scored a hat trick belly, as I said, had a wonderful goal Samuel t t was sent off for double yellow cards. This game scores certainly looks lopsided, but I gotta say it wasn't. It didn't feel as lopsided is four nail watching this game until the end when you say, yeah, I agree with that until Debeles goal Bicket to nothing. This was a pretty wouldn't call it. Even Barcelona did look the more likely to score and you know they had that that. Advantage through Besse's free kick in the thirty minute, but PSV looked organized. It was pretty clear. They were just trying to get the ball to to Chucky urban Lasana Lozano, and they looked like they could catch parcel and on the break, the. I, I wouldn't have been surprised that they'd snagged a goal, but you know, credits Barcelona for for keeping them off the scoresheet. Yeah. As you say, Barscelona maybe a little unlucky in the first half, they had a few messy head and Coutihno both had a couple of chances that I think if given the opportunity again would have scored that free kick from messy. He makes it just looks so absurdly easy. Yeah. I was disappointed by the PSE goalie, I thought, yeah, we're going to the of the of the wall and his positioning were were kind of core, but that being said messy, put it in exactly the right place. And so he had dented that and his genius took over. Totally, I will. There are few other free kick goals later today, and I agree even more on those about goalkeeping. Maybe mistakes and setting those up. But to me this one by large, messy top corner. Perfect. No one's gonna, stop it. And you just watch that instant replay and it looks. It just looks effortless. And you know he's made his pledge that he's gonna take over the Champions League this year and and he certainly left his stamping, his game, the gauntlet thrown messy and Rinaldo. We're tied for total Champions League at tricks. Having that record at seven. Now messy is the hat trick leader of the Champions League with eight. So I think he's out to show that he's the best player in the world after kind of being ignored all of this past year. See tomorrow Cristiano Renaldo might score six goals. The double hatch. I wanna know how that's counted. Does account is to trick or just a hattrick plus accounts as a hattrick. Plus, unfortunately, I'll do some research which we now excellent. Dan police have come back to us tomorrow with with the full analysis as you say, spun damn Bailey, kind of sealed things for from our didn't really feel PSV had a chance after his amazing turn in the seventy four th minute, what a move, just and then the openness, the rhyming, so calm cool. Collected the beautiful curling finish and the low corner to me. That was the goal of this game. Maybe even the goal of the day, I thought it was just Br. I mean, obviously in large part, thanks to the build up play that move. He pulled, but oh, gorgeous. Yeah, only real issue with this match was the red card. Hate to see. You know, a player accumulates to yellows and they're gonna miss him. The next match against against Tottenham he'll be out for that. It seemed like such a just an immature move. Needless totally need a defender to get a yellow card. Early in a match for dissent is ridiculous. You should know better. You're are now a kind of a stalwart of this defense. You're not new to this team. It's the first game, and then you leave yourself in that position and that tackle that ultimately got him his second yellow, it's like, did he switch off? Did he forget? He was on that first yellow because it was so clearly going to get him sent off that he just politely got in the way of the attacker. It was totally needless a stupid move. And obviously Barcelona is deep but to lose a central defender now, never is never good. Agreed. Agreed. I, as you say PSV I think they took it to Barscelona Lozano definitely the most dangerous his counter attacks, as we know from the World Cup our our blazing fast. I love this early on in this game. It's been a long time if ever that I've seen Jordi Alba just completely outrun on the ball. He just could not keep up with Lozano, but. Zahn has a tendency as he did even in the World Cup two. Once he gets into one on one situations, just smack it a good, ten fifteen feet above the goal and showed a little bit more of that today. He's still young. He's gonna work on his finishing become a little more clinical. I think it's PSV could provide a challenge for their group mates in intern Tottenham just because I don't think either team is as well disciplined as porcelain, and none of those teams have little messy. I thought by large other takeaway. I have deli impress me. I didn't know if he was going to start or not. In Champions League. He had a great game Coutihno. I think he has lots of room to continue to boss the game. I would have liked to see him get on the scoresheet or at least make more of an impact. Messy and Suarez or both. Getting older and the rains are going to need to be turned over to AA and Coutinho as the main focal points of this team and mold. Mbeli scored Cotino kind of failed to impose himself on the batch. The question I have read are we already were one match in is our tour Lovie doll, the scariest man in the Champions League right now bearded and mohawk. The doll. I'd say it's either him or the entire Red Star Belgrade team, the cumulative effort of starving. Great. I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if I have a vision of our tour of adul- at the end of that gently movie where he's just fighting like a million like zombies climbing amounted, and it's just him at the top fighting them one by one, I could picture adult the top of a mountain fighting off the entire Red Star Belgrade team. Throwback reference to any of you gently fans out there by all means tweet at me, an expert pause what the name of that movie is because that's gonna keep me up tonight. All right. Any any final thoughts on his game? All right. The other early game Inter Milan to Tottenham Hotspur one Christian Erickson opened the scoring in the fifty third minute, but Mara Cardi with a volley two of the ages, leveled it up in the eighty fifth minute and then Mataya chino in the ninety. Second minute with the gut punch ceiling very Spurs day for Spurs as they as they fall in the first game this, this was the key matchup here. Obviously, I think both these teams to to obviously no disrespect to PSV. I think these teams both have is on the group stage and this was a key game and come away with three points. This was like you said, a classic Spurs match. They're up one, nothing until the eighty four th minute. They didn't look particularly good, but they look like they had done enough to to get the win. And that two goals in the span of seven minutes to win stoppage-time is just such a deflating. Gut punch. It, you know, the team just looked. It didn't look didn't have that Paci. No flow can kind of isolated slow. The midfield just could not get things get things together in this match for Tottenham. This now extends taught gnomes winless run both in domestic and and Champions League play two three is the first time they've lost three three matches in a row under Pocchettino and they're, you know, they're Tottenham 's ultimate capitulation in the in the final ten minutes of the match those very. Symptomatic of apostasy, no team that is exhausted. Usually, this doesn't come into later in the in the season when they're when they're run ragged. But there's been talk that these players not being not having the squad reinforced over the summer. These players are already coming in. Eighty eighty percents sort of one hundred percent because they're just so beat from being part of being part of punching a system and just not getting rest because he's. He's running them ragged. So we'll see whether or not that's just talk and whether Tottenham can get it together and rebound from this, I mean this, it's crazy to say, and this is a hot take, but could this be condom? Can they recover from this? This total gut punch. I agree with you and it's totally unfair. This one game down there still many games to be played, but this to me does feel like such a morale boost for inter who now find themselves tie or in second place on goal difference, but had their first three points in the bag. This kind of a huge boost to them as they've been dealing with their own spotty domestic form and Tottenham that's this is then extending their winless streak. Now, if you wanna call it that, which it is a little one and I don't know. This feels my reaction at the end of this game was off. Tottenham aren't going to get out of the group. And like it's it's, it's kind of ridiculous to say that fit the one benefit to Champions League players that their space between the games. And so you have time to sort of regain your form than playing, you know, they don't play all these matches in a month. So there's there's time for Paci. No to maybe rotated squad get some rest. I mean, he he has rotated a lot. You know, leaving out a couple of key players in this match, but I still think he needs like he needs to get his players back on track and and hopefully he can. I mean, this is this to me, feels entirely like it's up to Paci. No, the the players are players are they need to be managed a little bit. Yeah, I taught them are already on the back foot in the league. It's already proving to be a tough domestic season in the l. with with lots of teams fighting out for first place. I just I worry that the next month and the next two months, this team's not going to get more rested. I worry that they're just going to already start to get worn down and that's going to be tough for them. They really need to rebound in the next game in a big way they gotta get on the board. But when when you have to defend your defend your team saying in the press conference that we didn't bring our shit players, we brought the good players because they were questioning him leaving Karen trickier and Toby elder vialed in London. You know that that things are a little desperate. Don't don't try. Don't try and be Marino Pocchettino don't try. Don't. Yeah, indeed. But anyway, they certainly have the talent to rebound but these players need to step it up. Christian Erickson was impactful, but Harry cane can do obviously so much more Lamella once-daily allie's playing again with them. You know, they have, they have the potential, but they need to play like they can own this group and they didn't do that today. Agreed. All right. Next group, we're now at the next wave of games, and this was another kind of must win game for, you know, as much as a first game can be a must-win game lexical, Madrid, to Monaco won. The Monaco got off on the scoresheet I with a grand Seera goal in the eighteenth minutes, but our old friend, Diego cost level at up in the thirty first and then Jose commend as in the forty six minutes took the lead, which they would not surrender as KOMO drid is. As so capable of doing holding onto a lead. I thought this was a pretty pretty exciting game. I thought Monaco took it to let go Madrid, Madrid. Obviously, I think they are potentially a team to watch for the long run of this tournament. And while I think Monaco are going to be disappointed to come away with zero points. If they can keep this up, you don't. You don't know. They might be they might be the next best team in this group or had that potential. Yeah. Yeah. They were. They were good. They showed some guts, some guts here. Sorry. Monica did. Yeah. But I still think that they have to work out who their best eleven are. Chew Nassir. Charlie was pretty ineffective subject pretty early in the fiftieth minute. They couldn't find a way to shutdown Greece men and cost who they're some of the best players in the world, but you still got a, you can't let Greece men to slice open like he was doing. So they've got work to do. But like we said in the previews, they're, they're a team that's a mix of young and old, and they've still got time to gel and make things work. That being said, I really thought it was. A good, a good match from Madrid, coming back from behind and pulling up a win, and then sort of just sitting back and doing what they do and and strong army Monaco. All second. So it it was kind of what I expected and it was a solid. Yeah. Yeah, I fell cow. I questioned his commitment a little bit, but in the in our preview. So I thought he played well and he can hopefully keep that up as you say, Monaco needs to lock it up, especially defensively, they, they looked pretty exposed at points as you say, grease Mun and really Diego cost of the runs. He was making. They were able to pretty well expose the Monaco defense, but they play Monaco played with courage, and that's always a good thing. And courage always good. And you got to say, we'll get them in a moment that Dortmund didn't exactly look super convincing despite getting their three points looks like Athletico Madrid group to lose. Which is. Which is how we kind of anticipation at falling out with a door Dortmund in Monaco battling for that second place. Yeah, yeah. All right. I mean, I think we're on the same page there. Now the important thing about this game is kicking off a trend of today's game of these rogue third kits away kits. I'm not sure if it's the official away kit or not, but there was a kind of a range today in a few different games and I gotta be honest, the this kind of t. teal turquoise, let's go Madrid, not working for me. What about you? Yeah, it kind of it's belying new trend. This weird like lines on the shoulder. It's like a new stock jersey that every team like the new third jersey is just like ugly radiowave kind of shoulder thing that just like dripping paint. I dunno, it's not a good look, especially clashed with the blue on their crest. You know, you look at the badge and you look at this blue around it, the hell. Were they thinking what this color? No, I didn't work for me at all. I'm going to go on a slight double tangent here one since we're talking about jerseys and Manchester United in play today, what do you think this Manchester, pink jersey obviously got the win over the weekend. Fantastic news doesn't I do not like it. It's not nearly pink enough. You're going to go pink, go pink, but this is is looks like you got your white jersey in with some reds in a long. Thankfully it was a one off, but it feels very American football. You know how like every month is a new respect to troops month or breast cancer month. It's just a ploy to sell pink gear. Cammo gear into jersey. How many of those, how many of those pink jerseys were sold to suckers who were like, oh, this is cool, and it means something. It's like it yourself in nineteen Ninety-three canton of vintage jersey don't get, don't get a pink jersey from game against whoever the schmo. They're point. Harsh words, harsh marts clearly struck a nerve with mister Reed Ryan. The second question I have for you read more related to the Champions League, what do you think of this blue and white starred ball. Seen worse seemed better to me. I reserve I reserve opinion at this point. Okay. Waiting for the ball to make a mistake. I'm not crazy about it, especially, you know, you get a good free kick moment. You got, let's say messy and he's he's carefully place in the ball into the grass, the cameraman's nice zoomed in on the ball. You get a real good look at the blue at this point rate and let me tell you it looks like someone just sharp on the blue. It's not like an even and it looks like it fades over the course of the game. It looks. It looks cheap. It looks cheap to me. I'm gonna say it now. I would be surprised if someone did sharpie it in. So that's the the new. The new champions conspiracy theory at this point is that they couldn't. They couldn't afford to cheap to buy balls. So they're just reusing old ones in Scharping over them. It looks to me like the kind of ball that you would find in a been at the end of the aisle in your in your CVS of your one read which your Walgreens, whichever is your choice of pharmacy that looks like that kind of a ball just call doin' read from New York. You're from New York. It's Dwayne. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's Dwayne, but I like doin. It sounds very European. Yeah. It's like target. Give us the time to read. All right. Any last thoughts on Monaco, Madrid. Let's let's move on. All right. I think we're gonna go through the next four games at a at a quick pace. Thanks to two TNT's coverage of these games, but let's go with Borussia Dortmund one club Bruges nil American hero Christian pulisic in the eighty fifth minute, I guess we'll call it his goal. It's if anything else it is a lesson that you should always just keep pressuring the ball. You never know. You might just clip it enough to deflect it over goalie's head. Yeah, just like a lofta deflections. Kind of sloppy match the whole, the whole ninety minutes. Nothing particularly exciting to write home about here. Doorman got the win, but a tie or draw would have been fair here. Pulisic does score on his twentieth birthday and his hundred cap for Dorman, which is nice and always good to see him score. Even if it's the way he did. But you know, dormant of gotta be. A little bit unhappy here because they didn't look very good. I mean the, they'll be happy that they got the win but unhappy with their performance in general. I agree. Club Rouge. I think again, in other team that kind of took it at the at the favorite and they put a lot of pressure on Dortmund. Berkey was forced into making a number of impressive saves, but they couldn't quite get a goal. Dortmund Royces always dangerous. He was playing better defense than some of their defenders too. But yeah, I don't think this was an impressive display. I think across the board we're going to see some of these games are hopefully some wake up calls for these favorites that they need to. They need to bring their game in the champions. They want to get out of these groups. Yeah, club Bruges look like they looked like they could have gotten something from this game, which will, which will really leave Gorman fans nervy. Actual Vissel. The big purchases the summer did not look particularly good. You know, it's I, it's, they're going to be hard pressed dormant to be hard pressed to get anything against Madrid or Monaco. They just did not look very good. Yeah. We both believe had Dortmund going through in second place in this group. And I, I don't know. Monaco against Dortmund is taking on a whole new urgency as a game or Dortmund really needs a win. And I think Monaco can leave today despite the loss, but their head held high and maybe their their sites aimed on Dortmund as being able to take them down. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. Interesting. All right. All right indeed, but we'll always take Christian pulisic goals and daily. All right. Let's talk shock one. Porto one. It was a Imboula goal for Shaikha in sixty minutes, but a penalty for Porto in the seventy fifth leveled at out. This was a game of a couple of penalty situations. Let's let's talk about them the first one, which ultimately Porto did not score. Was that a penalty for you read? Yeah, it was a penalty. It was not particularly. This is what we talked about with with Nado. Yeah, amble. Yeah. With the head ball, like he was supposed to be there Iraq in the center, and he gave up a penalty. If that's happening, then things are just going wrong for you and things are just going wrong. But the second one which was ultimately given and then converted in the seventy fifth. That one didn't look like so much of a penalty to me that look like a total dive. I'll take it. Anyway, I think both of these teams, you know, want to get out of the group of one one draw is, you know, it's not like the emergency sirens aren't sounding for either of these teams. I think either could have won it. A draw is probably fair Porto. They need to bring a little bit more flare though to yet. Again, those those third jerseys, this Matt gray, it's it's not inspiring agreed. It's supposed to look cool, but it's not no. The the story line here that you know people were talking about was Iker Casillas twentieth Champions League campaign, which is pretty incredible is pretty, but he was outshone on by his counterpart. And so that kind of took some of the luster off of what he did, but it shouldn't. It should because that's really quite a treatment for Casillas. I think this group obviously is group of life to end. I think this is still a group. It wasn't our group of life, but it is a group of life where all these teams can can still proceed. One one is is alternately no-one set too far back. But as you said, star of the day, shout goalie in number of fantastic, saves that just by necessity out outshone our friend Casillas but not exactly the most thrilling of games, but solid one one drill. Yup. Yup. Moving on galatassary three Lokomotiv Moscow nil my beloved Lokomotiv Moscow misfiring out the gates stalling. Oh, no, but it was. It was Gary Rodriguez in the ninth minute who opened things up for gal test right early, Aaron, dirty ach, I told you dirty men to watch, believe me, but a nice kick goal from him in the sixty seven th minutes and then a penalty, sealed things off the ninety, four th minutes. Although Galata Zarai will be suffering a red card in the eighty. Seventh minute for our friend by do in die. Again, this is to me a game that was a little bit more lopsided and score than it looked. I don't think Lokomotiv Moscow was actually Riddick run out of this game. They were a little unlucky points, but but I think the better team did win. They created the better opportunities tests, right? Yeah. I mean, they had a locomotive had a couple of. Chances in the match, but that opening goal is suffering that opening goal. I believe it was the fastest home goal for galatassary and Champions League history at eight minutes and forty seconds record previously held by Felipe Melo. Just just to keep in mind. But a goal like that in the opening ten fifteen minutes really changes the game in forces you to play abandon your tactics and play a little bit differently. So tough match for them top out. This was a match that I thought I needed to win to get something in this group, and they did so kudos to them. Locomotive might be cooked, but we'll see if they can recover from this. I don't. I'm staying on the locomotive train. Feels good feels good. That's good episode guys. You know, it's the bad start for them. No question about it. Porto in shell, Canada? I don't know. They're gonna have to change it. They're going to have to bring more luster. I think they were not nearly creative enough, although our good friend far fon almost scored a couple of goals. And I, I think I predicted like a hatchet from him in the first game. So we were so close Jefferson femme, but maybe the next game and it was just off by a game in terms of my prediction. But on four. Motive have a stat to keep in mind. Locomotive have never won their opening match of Champions League campaign, drawing one, losing three. That said, never really did anything after that first loss or draw. So not really much to take away from that. Fair enough. All right. Question here and this was maybe the tactical mistake. You only start one Miranshah brother, and then you sub Miranshah four Miranshah read, yeah, you're giving away your distinct advantage of of confusing. The other team with twins exact. This was a soon as the. Matchday squad was announced in and both more on jokes weren't in the starting lineup. I was, I knew this is going to be bad. You got a harness the power of the twin. It's super confusing. You're like, wait marking this guy and marketing that guy. I don't know. It's anyway, it's a disaster, but Lokomotiv Moscow. Get together, start both your Miranshah if you want to progress. I don't know why people aren't hiring us read. We are just we've got all the insights agreed anyway. Great. Start for Galata, Sarai, locomotive, gotta get those engines fire in our right NOP elite, nil red star, Bill grade, nil red star on the books. They started at home. They got that home crowd firing them on their first ever Champions League group phase game, and they held Napoli fortunately, probably to no goals, but huge result for them. Yeah, according to answer Wadi Red Star Belgrade. Where professionals at time and diving. I think that that shows that you know enchilada Napoli would just very frustrated by this by this match the hit the crossbar couple of times, but there was no real like continued pressure throughout the match kind of droll fair. If I, if I do say myself, it was indeed at drill affair. But yeah, that sounds like sour grapes to me and Chelotti if you can't, you can't beat them. Then just give them a little pal in the back. But yeah, in senior was he's a dangerous player. I mean, a lot of players actually had, you know whether it was Milliken, senior linski was creating attacks. Mertens came on and eventually is dangerous, so, but it just really wasn't Napalese day, you know, when you hit and it doesn't work, I think you should do other. We talked about this is another team that's still fill them themselves out. Trying to gel as a team. They started out well in Syria, but they benefit from having a couple of a couple of weeks between between all these matches. So all right. Most importantly, what do you think of NOP Elise away kit, the neon, blue and yellow combo checkers down the sleeves or some nonsense like a flag at a racetrack or something. You know, I was kind of a fan, which is weird because end of that like weird Godley Gotti stuff. But you know. I'd give it another shot. I kind of like it got on preorder not yet. Let me see him win a game. Yeah. Fair enough. The real question which which player you're gonna go see you in the number ninety. Nine Milic jersey. You know in years past it would have been ham sick, but. It sounds sounds appropriate at this moment. Indeed, I'll have to again reevaluate once we progress. Fair enough. All right. On to the piece, the resistance, Liverpool, three Paris Saint Germain to man what a game. Let's go through it. Okay. Daniel Sturridge that's right. You heard me. Daniel Sturridge opened the scoring in the thirty th minute with a nice header goal. James Milner converted a very professional penalty in the thirty six minutes. Thomas Mooney pulled one back in the fortieth Killian Imbaba tied it up in the eighty third, but Roberto for me. No is passenger singer Maine's undoing in the ninety first minute with an excellent cross goal finish clearly game of the day, right? This is instant classic. I mean, this match was incredible to watch. I. There's so much energy in that stadium. It was loud. The crowd was rocking the pace of play was. It was so fast in the technical ability on display was profound. I mean, these guys were barely missing passes barely missing shots. And it was only you know. Later in the match in the second half that only then when there were a couple of mistakes, did players get to capitalize on them and Bob, a. Asala gives it away and Babe's able to create something out of that. And then you know, Imbaba makes a mistake or the end. And for me, no gets that gets that last minute goal. So it was just a an absolute thriller role on the watch. I gotta say I was extraordinarily impressed with Liverpool, which leaves a dirty in my mouth to say, I thought they brought the heat today. I thought they look fantastic. They look like a well oiled machine well coached, and I think that was a huge difference maker today. They were pressuring as as clock teams are known to do, but they were just pressuring Jamin all over the pitch, winning back balls PS GM couldn't get past get going. They couldn't get out of their own half for a lot of portions of the match that I fifteen minutes. It looked like Liverpool. We're going to run riot over. PSG look like PSD were to shellshocked totally. I mean, Liverpool just dominated the early going, and then this is really what it comes down to to to me PS g me looked devoid of an attack plan of like a cohesive identity as a team air, but they are extraordinarily talented team and all anyone of any one of these players just need a moment to capitalize situation. So huge is this Rick? This rebounding comes to and a fantastic finish from from him right back obviously, more of an attacking minded right back, but a right back nonetheless, a fantastic. And that's a huge difference maker that g go into halftime down only to one and not to nil. Let alone more Liverpool had scored more goals. And that's what this game came down to was that I think has me Liverpool played so well, they were extremely well coached. They, they knew what they they came to do. Yeah. Klopp said afterwards that they intentionally were targeting neymar. Saying that, you know, he's not a defender, and he showed that he did track back into Arnold was just running a ramp it down the right side had incredible Madge and just really, it was embarrassing. Continuing name our streak of just looking like a real jump comes to. When it comes to being a professional footballer. Yeah. I mean, name are played a especially abysmal defense today. I think there's the plays particularly good defense anyway, but no, that's fair. But he just made zero whatsoever. My question though is Liverpool, I think we saw them as at their best today. I think we saw PSG nowhere near their best and I just wonder if they can kick it into gear. And hopefully as this will be a huge wakeup call to them, I think we still see a tremendous room for growth from PS. Gee, I'm not sure how much room for growth comparatively there is for Liverpool and pears Jane's PSG nearly walked out of this withdrawing that they deserved it, but that brilliance carried them pretty close. You know, I don't think Liverpool need. To show growth. They showed that they could get it done here. Sturge scoring plane for a injured for me. No, getting start over from, you know, who have picked up a knock being poked in the eye gallery galleys in the training. But our old friend for Tongan tried to take his whole eyeball out, but he wasn't in the match day squad until until earlier today. So he comes onto winter Nestor time this, you know, I'm not waiting for the inevitable Liverpool collapse, although I would love to see it. But this Otis is on PS Geeta show that they can play better. And play a lot better. Yeah. But if they if they do, they'll be dangerous. One hundred percent. I was happy for storage. I mean, he's obviously suffered so many injuries to get have that moment was great. I mean, across the board, though you gotta give these Liverpool players. Credit. Most Sala was dangerous. It wasn't necessarily his best game, but he was. He's always dangerous. Saudi-omani is fantastic. James Milner, I mean, angels wonder. He was incredible. What is what's? What's he eat? I just I need to know more about interview with Klopp and they do a physical fitness test every year. All the liberal players do. Yeah, Miller is the most fit player in the liberals squad. He's thirty five years old. He's thirty two, but still. I appreciate the attempts to fight for hyperbolic, but he is. I mean, we're talking about name are not playing defense. Milner is regularly both at both end both touchlines just constantly sprinting between the two. He's he is only towards really late in the game. Did it looked like he was starting to tire? It's astounding. Astounding to watch, allows tire. He's like sixty years old. He needs to get as muesli and go sit on havoc on I seventy five year old man. He is really excellent to have around and I look forward to his eighty second birthday next year. All right. But I mean, as you said, Trento exander Arnold was very dangerous going up. As you say, exploiting the gaps behind neymar. Then dyke and Gomez seem like a solid defensive pairing. I just I was very impressed across the board by Liverpool agree like. The class today besides, besides Barscelona? Liberals playing much more difficult competition. So fair enough. But flip side of that PS g players going -pletely anonymous all over the place. I don't even. I don't even know where to start first of all, Bor not giving away that penalty. What a stupid mistake. I mean, like such unnecessary tackle. He wasn't. He looked shaky from the from the gecko get into couple talking to by the ref. You know what his deal is wasn't playing very smart. And then he gave that up to the cherry on top of his. Rough out in? Yeah, can Ben pay didn't look a little shaky on the ball at times. Chagas Silva, I think play pretty well. But to me, always looks like he's about to have an emotional breakdown. Always looked on the verge of tears, more Kino's playing as to me the biggest flaw with PS Geos their midfield. I don't like this trio of de Maria Martinez and Robbie. Oh, I think Martinez is. I just don't necessarily like him all that much as CD am. I think he's better as a defender. I think rob yo is fine, but isn't going to do enough to really link to the offensive players. I don't think he's quite that unlocking player and then de Maria was just nowhere to be found in this game thought, just like, I'm not even sure where he was for the entire these Imbaba Demore RIA. Name are even Cavani to an extent. Just I forgot they weren't even on the pitch until the twentieth minute, which is not good players in the world yet. You're absolutely right. I thought I mean, as I said, de Maria anonymous, I felt when they brought on Jillian Traxler towards the end, that was a great move bring. Maybe he's he's the type of creative midfielder who I think can link midfield and offense. I think Cavani was anonymous to a certain extent, but not in the his fault sort of way. I who's going to give him the ball, who was holding the ball, have possession to create that pass the entire game plan. It seemed to be was to try and get the ball, either outs or neymar, which you understand they're both tremendous players, but it was like a lopsided affair in the first half. I thought in baba was totally anonymous. I don't know where he was. Neymar got a few opportunities early, but was clearly frustrated dispossessed quickly and then just disappeared. Then the second half. Neymar couldn't tell you. He was on the pitch. Baba had a few a few runs, but nothing of major significance because it was just these two players trying to take on the entire Liverpool defense by themselves. It was. It was a rough outing or you know, just tough to watch. But that being said they still manage to score goals. Nothing against the run a play, which is what you're gonna get. When you have these players of this quality, you said they had a team philosophy though they had things together, but they still manage to overcome that through sheer force of will talent hundred. I mean, hundred percent, and you look at this team, they're doing really nothing, but it just takes one moment. A poor pass from Sala name. Pounces creates a run, gets it to Babe's feet. And next thing you know you're tied and just out of nowhere. These guys are so talented that they can do that to you. And frankly, when they tied it, I thought PSU go on to win this game and credit to Liverpool for staying frosty out there and getting the win because I, I really thought PSU is going to go on and carry carry it out. But anyway, they need to play more like a team. If they do that, it would certainly be very exciting to watch, but it was frustrating to watch PS PSG today. I agree with you, and I think. It seems like is the Lakers of old where they're just trying to be like they don't play well in the first half, they're just save it all for the second half of game. That's not gonna work out. So played his way into shape. Yeah, so, but if they get out of the group, oh, watch out, watch out group stage, but you know, to me today was a symptom of you see what coach Klopp is and to goal. I think he's a great coach, but just not at the same place yet that that Klopp is, and he's just not motivating players in quite the right way. All right, Liverpool, three pair Saint Germain to after the first day of games. Let's go group a, we got, let's go Madrid in Dortmund. At the top group b Barcelona followed by Inter Milan with each with three points group, see Liverpool on top of three Red Star Belgrade in second place. With one point is g bottom of the group hope most likely that will change group d galatassary top Porto in second. And obviously we have a whole new slate of games tomorrow, but read, let's talk. Oh, wait, wait, wait, we this, this all preempted all this. We could build to the fact that the best part of g for me was their jerseys. The this has the same feel as Manchester United's pink one off those air Jordan's Air Jordan jerseys. I like it. I like that. I didn't like the neck. It was like to to close between like v neck and not AVI Nick, but I did like the black and white calm. I liked. I liked the fact that it gave people the opportunity to use the crime. Jordan me after the match was pretty much the extent of my enjoyment from the those jerseys to each his own. All right, read if you're one of our fans from the World Cup days, we used to give pretty much similar awards every day. Now that we're in the Champions League, there are a lot more games in a given day. We're changing it up a little bit where Reid is going to be bringing his seal of approval. The awards heat wants to give. I have brought the awards I want to give and we're going to trade off. We have not consulted each other per se on awards we're giving. I'm sticking slightly to the old format which you'll see in a moment, but read, I hear you changing it up, where where do you wanna start? Yeah, I'm gonna start with Maya. Mr. visible award that goes. To our friend neighbor PS g. as we said, he was absolutely horrendous could not. Even though we had an assist, he could not exert his influence on this on this magin I, I wouldn't be surprised if he continues to get this Mr. visible word and suddenly he's not on PS next year. So keep an eye out for that. Fair enough. Okay. Mr. invisible. I like that. I'm going to give my best goal award, but this is the best goal awarded brought to you by our friends, LAN Ibrahimovic in honor of his five hundred goal, which he scored with the galaxy, and it was an absurdly just absurdly Latin goal. And so this is these lots on Abraham vich best goal of the day award. And I, I have to give it. I wanted to give it to them belly. I was very partial to that, but it was more cards volley for me that. That has to take it. It was just too too gorgeous, not to give it so lots Abraham of its best goal of the day goes tomorrow. It Cardi read next award. I'm gonna go with the iron goat award that goes to our ages friends. Mr Miller. He has shown this this season culminating with his match that he is a tireless workhorse goat in the in the mountain. Goat sense, but also in the greatest of all time since. Poetic grace of all time today. Yeah. He capped off his his performance with a penalty goal and a lovely little spin celebration. So classic dad? Yeah, that was I liked it. I liked it. Maybe it's being a father. Now myself and I, I relate to that kind of dad vibe, but that it makes me it did come to mind earlier today and read. I gotta get your opinion on this in a in a alternate universe where both James Milner and Jeddah Shakira are UFC fighters and they face off in the octagon who's coming out, who's coming out with a win. You know. Milner has got the job that looks unbreakable on break, but yeah, but Shaquille the power cube, how you supposed to get any leverage miss in the power cube. I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna go with security. He he's, he's, he's. Yes, he does kind of have security might be like Thors hammer where he just got on top of Milner. There's no, there's no one is capable of moving him, but I'm going to give. I'm going to give it to to Milner. And I think it's his endurance that would it's going to go five rounds. It's a championship bout and he's just going to outlast shaky although pretty good, pretty good stamina himself. But I just feel like Milner, despite being a soccer player for his entire professional career, looks like he already has the cauliflower ears that trademark of a wrestler or or UFC fighter. Anyway, that was where my brain goes during during our games. All right, so you're iron goat award. Very nice. I appreciate that. This one is the best goalie. Save. Excuse me. Best save brought to you by our old friend, Edwin vendor Sar because I just felt like, you know what? We don't talk about enough about him and he's a legend legend. So this is the Edwin van der Sar best save award. And you know, it would imply that it with his awards should in fact Goto a goalkeeper and I was I was kinda looking our Dortmund fron berkey and his save verses done Juma, which was a nice diving says, but I gotta give this love to Red Star Belgrade friend road, which with a goal line, clearance Goldie was completely out of position and to be fair it. You know, it makes a few goalline clearances. I thought this one look like involved the most most effort and not all players are willing to do that because in the Porto game too. Defenders, either side of a shot with the goalie to out of position, and neither of them could get that goal line save. So wrote h are our check friend, I, I appreciate Serbian friend. I appreciate your effort. They got too big ups. All right, read, I've got the Champions League trend to watch award, but just something to keep in mind going forward. This is going to be unnecessary. Bicycle kicks. We had. We had defenders in pretty much every match just flailing everywhere. We had Cavani trying to bicycle kick against PS Jiwen arrogance, Liverpool. When he didn't even get close, it did lead to the loonier goal but needed advanced. It. You know, I think everyone seen the men's Zuko in the Rinaldo bicycle kicks and they know that they wanna get in the highlights because you know those people aren't watching red star Belgrade's every every move. So one way to get to get on sportscenter or fubo TV highlight channel or whatever. It's called where we do a bicycle kick. Okay. Keep your eyes peeled for unnecessary bicycle kick. So I could see someone getting hurt and or scoring a spectacular goal. I, I always do worry about like a broken neck coming. One of those. Many gonna do unless you're chicanery no neck to break. No, you just fall on the other side of your cube. All right. This one, I don't know who I'm sponsoring this one. This is my best celebration read, who would who do you have? Like, who do you envision being the honoree of a celebration award the entire Nigerian international. All right. This is your best goal celebration brought to you by both the team and you know what the whole country of Nigeria. So there you go. This one to me goal celebration of the day Roberto for me, no. With his ninety. First minute winner against PS g multiple things. I like about this one one. He immediately went to take off his jersey and then got it above maybe the bellybutton and realized no, not gonna take the yellow car. The first day of the game first day as Champions League bad choice Roberta. And so he kept his jersey on very quick thinking. I was extremely impressed. We all know how many players lose the, you know, they lose that battle in the urged to rip the old jersey off, the shirt always wins shirt, always wins. Secondly, he then followed it up. I gotta gotta get good celebration and he invoked his gadget from Vertongen over the weekend with his one hand covering the eye, he can score. Only half vision. He's Roberto for me. No, I liked it quite a bit. So he's my best celebration award brought to you by the country of Nigeria. That's all you got. I got two more read so buckle lead on this one. We can go through quickly, but best overacting after foul to me, I've always got always honor those performances. And this one goes, we'll call this the Sean Penn best over acting award because why not. And it goes to Virgil Van Dyke who Cavani tried to run around him and like really just kind of placed his hand on the man's shoulder and Virgil Van Dyke not a small man by to say the least or just went down as though he had been really punched in the face. So you know, you got to just expect a little more from you, come on, but and then lastly, my most out of place award. Curious to see what this is going to go to the assistant coach for. Let's go Madrid, who took on the touchline duties today with the Simoni out with a ban. This guy. I've never seen anyone look less like they know anything about sport of soccer. This like mountain man with him, just looks just he really caught me off guard and click a a weight strength and conditioning coach for Alabama. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it looks like one of those strength and conditioning coaches who actually knows really very little about being fit. But he did look scary. I mean, like he looked like he, I don't know. He's a tough man. I'm not talking on s? Yes. As they say. So, yeah, he wins my my most out of place award. I'm not quite sure how many more games. Diego Simione has on his band. I think maybe two more in which case I hope I hope we see him again, and I hope at some point we see him in a suit or something. He realizes, yes, elite class it up a little bit because I I'd pay to see them in. I want to see him come out in an old time weightlifter outfit from the nineteen twenties. Yeah. Okay. That's fair enough. Well, I think read I expect a call from TNT bleaker report, be our live all whichever companies producing this Champions League coverage and expecting them to to bring us on at any moment to to enhance their coverage. Don't you think that are that are a cease desists letter. Get what VR live. We're going to preemptively. We're saying, no. We will not stop the real. The real business is here on stoppage-time and tomorrow Manchester United. Got this. My stresses at all time high right now. Just take an angry nap until then. All right, max read always pleasure. Can we talk to you about tomorrow's games, thanks for coming on today. Tomorrow there you have it the first day of the Champions League in the books, share your thoughts with me on Twitter at next Baril pods. Can't wait to to hear about it. There. 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"The. Offside with every gumming and J J D Benny. Great. On. Spurs Spurs players. They will be the touchline. But there's no messy. Oh my goodness. Oh, goodness. Just when you think these everything he comes up with something even move special. Yes. Caught offside from the Upper West side of Manhattan, Andrew gulling and JJ Davani. What's up other? How are you? I'm fine. What are you eating chicken sandwich? Eating my feelings. I see people people said to be okay with it. You might have. I join you actually have piece of cold pizza here from I feel like after the Champions League week. We've had it's quite okay. This is like an audio muck bang for people don't know what that is. So Korea people on the internet eat food in front of the camera on stream it and millions of people watch it, and these guys are like YouTube stars just a couple of guys aiding their feelings that's us right now. So if you'd like to contribute to our patriot. What a show we have coming up for you. Despite the fact that you, and I probably don't feel much like talking about our respective champions games. We will and we will do so very professionally. We'll be unbiased. Eating will stop eating because honestly people I think it drives people nuts to hear people eating on radio on earned that AM or thing. That's the thing sends people will like while. There might be some people right now, I can't contain themselves. So who knows do you think for? Mood for is our purposes some people listen to us. No because we don't whisper into the Mike. No one wants that. Don't do it. Honestly, it's it's gonna weird me out. Let's see the wind will whisper his name tonight. Have a we'll go through the Champions League games. We have a big mail bag that I saw you put together here with some questions that I'm I'm I'm curious about. A big what's watch for my you created a monster much, honestly for the the number of Premier League games that I put there. I don't even. I'm just going to listen to them when you have something. We'll just stop because there's so many, you know, I am as or focused on Saturday evening in the north town of of MLS and a red card man of the match that I think will intrigued people. Oh, I think so. Yeah. Domestic affairs. Yes. MLS base red card man of the match. And then also I do want to say that Eka Casillas he will come up later in the show as well. Because there were some scary news earlier today, but it appears as of now that he's gonna be okay. But we'll mention that in a little more depth later on in the program too. But JJ we start with this. Not only did our teams lose. But neither one man of score a goal. No home goal for Spurs. No precious away goal for Liverpool. I guess we'll begin. With today's game. The Barcelona three nil victory over Liverpool at the camp now six years ago today, do you know what happened? No that was the last time Barcelona lost a Champions League game at home may first two thousand thirteen against Byron Munich, they are in machine in that building. And really in general, but they prove once again, how hard it is to go there and beat them because I was going to say play. Well, I actually thought for large stretches of the game Liverpool did play. Well. I thought Liverpool were very good at times. I would say that the the last time Liverpool were in the new camphor champions e game. They didn't play as well and came away with a two one win. They had chances. I think ultimately if you want to break the game down. There was an. Inevitabilities about what happened tonight? There was a certain for boarding that came from the chances that were missed for example. Should you be one they'll down and you're seventy eight yards out. And has been a wonderful move. That's gone straight down the field from back to front and the ball being crossed you. If you're James Milner, you cannot site foot that tamely attor stay again, you have got to score. These are the elevated clients of European football that you're in right now. And that sounds like strange for me to say consider Liverpool during the Champions League final last year bought. That's just a fact against Barcelona and against Lino messy. You must be better. You must be clinical. If you're saudi-omani in the first half you most finish you've got to finish that chance. Yeah. There was a lot of that. I kind of had this broken down into a few categories, but we can jump to the third one that I have because you're kind of on that topic right now, which was how do you feel heading into the second leg? And look this game was over at three nil. We all know that but the Taiwan and for Liverpool like you said on the heels of the chances that they missed earlier, especially the Milner one, but for them to then have kind of like the mental fortitude to not drop their heads after that third goal messy. But instead go right back down right for me. No puts a shot on. That's cleared off the line. Beats her stage is cleared off the line and the rebound goes right to most Sala who with an empty net in front of him. Fires it off the post. That's the MoMA. It to me or covering defenders should neyla. He should've come on. He should've spoiling should have scored. That's the moment for me. You can talk about all those other. Mrs but Liverpool were they were right on the doorstep of getting out of there was with some kind of glimmer of hope evaluation away more than a glimmer because you know, if you go. You've got that away goal to nil is enough right now, look we can talk about how difficult it might be to prevent Barscelona from scoring. Cram more away. But the fact of the matter is a two nil victory for Liverpool at home with their defending being what it is. It's possible that to me was the moment you can talk about all those other MRs. But that was the one that I thought was just the ultimate gut punch. You're looking for combeback of epic proportions everyone talks about an I've talked about as what you're going to need Borussia Dortmund style Europa league game from twenty sixteen combeback, but that was one one after the first leg the second leg was decrees e leg it was four three that all happened those away goals for dorm and all that happened in the space of ninety minutes. Yeah. A three no deficit is psychological, especially when you know, especially when Barcelona we saw Old Trafford were capable of scoring and then shutting up shop, especially when you know the dangers. They have on the break deadly. It's sought now it could have been a lot worse ad Monday. Ballet just slid that one woman the in four nil that was it. Yeah. Look histories against you. I don't need to tell you. That teams have won three nil at home in the first leg of Champions League knockout game all eight have advanced. That's what's against you histories, also with you. Because again, we talk about those big nights at Anfield those trademark nights. You know, Senate Yan in the seventies. I'm just on both legs weren't played an. Olympia calls Dortmund as as I referenced Liverpool hive that history not crow to draw. But this is huge in terms of what stood out to you in this game. I'll start with the blatantly obvious. And that is leeann messy. I mean, sometimes look Liverpool did the best they could they did an excellent. But you know, you get to the seventy fifth minute and his instincts kick in plays that one off the crossbar for walks into the back of the net. And then the one that you heard at the start of the show with Martin Tyler on the call the free kick. I don't know. Sometimes like I almost want to go up to your Klopp after the game. Like, I could only think of this famous scene from goodwill hunting. Do. It's not your fault. I just want to say that. Because like letting it it's messy you can you can only do so much. He's better than everyone else on the planet. Like when when he he can impose his will on a game in ways that nobody else can. And you saw it with the free kick. I mean, God was it just it was just beautiful. And that's that's beyond you know, Klopp had made contingencies for how Guber Sloan awar-. He didn't wall. Same with a sense anger. He had a plan look at where we're now dome. Pledge almost the center of a diamond with for menial missing. And he split the two forwards meaning that out and mining occupy different spaces and stretched and ran into the channels of that Barcelona defense, which really gave them problems he decided that he couldn't have to full box marauding forward when you have Geordie album wound site who was going to penetrate and beyond. So he put your Gomez there. There was a lot of things that cop did to stop Barcelona. It worked relatively well. A lot of the time in the second half. Particularly when Liverpool came out they had those two chances where they put her stay and full stretch. And they dominated the part of the second half. That was a lot of good stuff from Liverpool there and in those moments messy was playing with his back to goal. He was the out ball for Barcelona. So hey, you have don't allow, but the point being is you leave even a sliver the tiniest thing in the door for him. And he will take it and the sliver that was left open was by not taking those chances. You can't have a night where mine and silent miss chances like that. You can't have night were gyms Milner who actually can be quite clinical in the position. We saw him tonight tamely site foots it strip back to he's so good taking penalties that was basically a penalty. Really? Yeah. Really? Yeah. And I've seen them score. I can't remember who it was against. But he scored a goal of very similar in the Premier League earlier the season where the ball falls in the box, and he gets his head don't shoulders over the ball. Site foots at home with you know, just workmanlike diligent plow. He did do all those things. He just happened to do it right to the he re- he raised his his head just tiny little bit. The body shape was little bit wrong. You don't know what I have for messy, excuse me. No, no. No, no. I'm not having that. Oh, I know exactly what he did. Because if done it myself, and it was just so disappointing. You could see his face straight after and you can't do that. No for messy. It was a six hundred club goal tonight fourteen years to the day from when he scored his first club will for Barcelona in the league, the funny thing here like messing Rinaldo this battle of anything. You can do I can do better Rinaldo got his six hundred club over the weekend. It took him eight hundred and one games messy got his today trivia, do you think it took more or less games for messy to reach that number less? Correct. By a huge number. Like, I said Raimondo did in eight oh, one messy did it in six hundred eighty three games to get to six hundred goals for his club. Are you kidding me? He's. Own believable. Honestly, that's what I'm saying. What are you supposed to do see the car on that free-kick? Now, it may have taken a week slight. We touch off it Gomez the tiniest. I think it was going in any way, we the way it's card, right? Any site footed. Yards. Where are you getting all Powell I think it was thirty one point eight yards the longest goal he scored the season. And since last season he had one against Levada that was thirty four point eight yards free-kick today with thirty one yards almost thirty to thirty one point eight. And again, I don't mean to be that guy. But have you ever put a ball of thirty yards looked at a goal? You know, when you're just kicking with your friend pretty much every day. I do that morning routine while I do it a couple of times a week, and it's just a monstrously. Yeah. It's monstrous does it's just with no effort on believable, by the way. We should we should mention that the opening goals for Barcelona was was a beautiful goal. I was about to mention that actually because the last category. I wanted to kind of discuss with you as who came up big who came up small, we talked about messy, obviously, he's he's the big name. But I want to mention a name that oftentimes flies under the radar for Barcelona because they are loaded with these stars of Francois as a messy Jordi Alba is sensational, seventeen assists in all competitions this season five in the Champions League all of them against primarily. League competition. Such a good ball. He played through for Suarez for that goal. Now. I give Suarez credit because the run that he made was ex- should as the ball. But Alba didn't hit that he could hit that first time after takes the first, touch, but he doesn't rules is foot across the top of the ball, which is almost buying seconds. For Suarez to get in behind. Mattis was just that little bit dozy that little bit too far in and didn't read it and he's just goals to between the two vendors in school, the run was right between Matt and Van Dyke now for for the way, we talk. We need to expect more from him. People on Twitter are having a goal because if you look at the elevated status to PFA award at the weekend, and then the stats about not being dribbled pasta. And you're gonna look at him. But the the quality of the Rhone is is is very very good. He. If you want to criticize him for it. Yeah. You've got to track that, but also as well what a friend of mine back home pointed out, if you look at what's Juarez does mid slide he adjusts because he's realize he's gone a bit early on the slight and the ball is hopping up, and he hits it on the up to lifted over Alison are beyond Allison. Yeah. I mean, this is Andrew this is fine margin stuff. This is remember someone's someone interviewing the, Dan and said. Africa coming out of the conversation was down in the way talks football. They said that he sees three four moves ahead. He and -ticipant things, and that's the difference between me, and you and him. That alone, that's generous. But you know, the regular footballer, right? The championship fuller and him, and I would say that's the same at these levels with Juarez a messy, and these guys what we saw tonight, by the way as well. All you know, all these phone back and forth games in the knockout stages, and I'm not saying the won't be one at onfield put tonight felt like the weighty heavyweight bottles of of of years gone by this was serious business. You know, it didn't have the levity of year of the, you know, the four threes and and the combat games. This was like this is the cream of the crop. Yeah. I guess I don't know. If I totally follow you what I mean. They I mean they scored three goals. I know, but it didn't have the kind of it had a back and forth. But it just seemed like just serious business really kinda taints that top architects at they're very highest peak of ability to you know, what I mean like designers creators of a different level to what we're used to seeing. It was a fun game. I do want you. Well, I'm trying to say it just reciting poetry over there. I don't know. I I want it known that when you came in tonight to the studio I attempted to hug you show. Teams with tough losses, and you rejected it, and I was left. They're just standing like a fool everyone looking at me. It was noon there there wasn't. But I felt like people were looking you left your arm out, and I did feel bad. But I couldn't do it. I couldn't take the I just didn't feel right. What about now? We can we do it after the second legs when we're both though. Speaking of which Tottenham in. I x one nil goes to the Dutch club JJ will start out with what stood out in this one. And I would say this for me a couple of things really. But I'll start with I ex and we should know this by now, but their refusal to turtle up on the road in the Champions League against quote, unquote, bigger clubs. It is it is really something to behold, Spurs are not a bigger club. That's what you're gonna say. Of course, they're not. I mean, they're big revenue. Historically, right? But we're talking about the year twenty nineteen. I mean, come on. But when you are as confident as they are on the ball naturally and have been coached that way. And you've got this wit of history behind you. You're not rocking into a new stadium and being afraid of anyone they've gone to you Ventas they've gone to Real Madrid. Right. They don't give it down, by the way. They will go to Anfield exactly the same. Kurt the cop. Could do whatever it wanted days. Don't k-. It's quite possible that they will now go onto the final and not care if they're playing Barcelona like, you're right. They don't they truly believe in their system, by the way, it was talked about a little bit on the broadcast last night. But Eric ten hug the the manager for I XE. He's forty nine years old. Yeah. Like, how are we only? Just like this man is about to become the flavor of the month for like every big club on earth. Yes. But the club's beforehand. Go ahead eagles. And he was with FC you trick right before just not going to move the needle, you know, moving the needle now, certainly is considering that, you know, they did make high-profile signings before that of managers that didn't really work. But it's not just the fact that he's doing this with the clearly have really great young players, but he's taken deuce on Todd and completely resurrected his career. I I think what you should say is that they've scouted Dussan Todd itch seen the qualities that no one else in the primarily including his own club or seeing. I mean, how much do you feel if you're so often right now? Oh my God. We are offing right now. There's good players all over the place for them. And it's what about that move. I know I I'm kinda dancing on your grill. We're talking about the game. Not the goal. The goal was fabulous fit. The passing the movement trivia, what about that move. When donavan beak fakes runs round, the wound to attach basically, let's go to target pretend like he's going to attack it then corpses. Run into the box and Laurie's makes the save. Yes. What stood out to me? And I know you didn't even really get your point there. No, no. That's fine. How utterly dominant. I XE were how also need to put an Asterix on that comment. I they were overly dominant for about a would say five minutes. No, I would say for the first half on nano, Andrew. I mean, not spirit out as well. What happened in the second half with? Suppose with Sasol coming into into the team for spars doors, a definite it changed a lot. I would say the second half Spurs exhibited what they did in the first leg against Manchester City that clean the physicality they battled, but it's not like they played vintage Spurs football. Their best opportunities were still probably going to be from set-pieces. They can't play into Spurs football. That's the other thing that stood out to me. They can't do that. They're like beautiful people people will not allow Tottenham fans to use injuries and absences as an excuse, but God it like it is it how can you look at that team and say that that's not like for Nando your enti- for all the good. He I know he scored the goal against man city to put them through. He'll he'll never be forgotten for that. But let's be honest when he's playing a front and Kane or sun or not they're they're playing they're playing long balls like that. Right. Does right. Okay. And it messes with their shape. It's not what they do. They're just sending in cross after cross from sherpa who. Was just bad on the night. And he was one after another after another is being repelled. They, you know, have Tottenham are they like to play through the middle. They can't do it. They're not doing that in this game. So, you know, it's just I think there's just a a frustration in me that and I've talked about this before. And I'll say it again that Tottenham have gotten to this point. And you know, Liverpool were here last year. Like Liverpool may very well. Be back next year. I don't know what Tottenham is going to have what's going to happen with them next. And so here they are in the semi final. And they can't like they can't give it their all because they don't have this full complement of players in front of them. Some of that is their own doing didn't go out and sign players. You know, some of it is bad luck. They've got injuries everywhere. You know sun with a yellow card against Manchester City this match. It's just it's frustrating. Fifteen minutes in I thought this is going to be three three nil. He's absolutely. I think it's commendable that even though Spurs like you said were bare bones. I think it was commendable dot they. On the way to play that at least maybe could've brought some joy. And look at me, you want to say that the statistics bear out that I with the better team. Look, I am not going to sit here and say I XE did not deserve to leave there with the win. Like, they did you're not gonna hear that from me. I XE were they were the better team. But let's not act like Tottenham were were bullied off their own pitch last night. Luke played off moments of evisceration. Ten in their favor and shots they ton. What what is our narrative today? Tottenham had how many three free uncontested headers on free kicks that they just your rent six yards from goal. That's his specialty puts the only way you puts it over the long shots. You're talking about. We're potshots from way way out. None of them even came close to get to hit the target come on to sit here and act like Spurs did not have chances in that game. It's patently false. It's wrong. It's not true on that trying to make excuses for them. I XE were better. But you can't sit here and say that this was a ninety minute domination probably the better team in the second half, at least even it wasn't. But even in that second half were Spurs were better. And I admit that the best chance of the game fell to David who was was actually someone who came up small for me. If if there's something that hamstrings this this I ex team going forward. It's the lack of composure at times on the finish. If you compare Donnie weeks finished to nearest finish where he scoffs it off the post. I mean that was game over. Yeah. That probably would have been it in terms of guys who who stood out. I was going to mention soco who came on for tongue and because this one like you said it was one nail. But it was heading for two nil. Three know who knows he came on. And I think there's a lot of people who maybe you know, they don't watch Tottenham week in week out. And they kind of just know of soco what they've heard from his first couple of seasons with the club. But this year, you're kinda hearing. Oh, no. He's better. I swear I swear this was one of the first games were Tottenham have really been, you know, on the big stage for everyone to see. Now, he's been hurt. But for him to come on not one hundred percent and still do what he did to help change that game and help keep this just a one nil deficit heading into the second leg. I think a lot of people realized oh, he he is actually as good as what I've been hearing right thought on the ISI cited things vanderbeek in midfield. I know we talk about Frankie diong who was excellent. But I thought vanderbeek was brilliant to lift is nineteen. Oh my God. Yeah. It's just brilliant on the Spurs site. Fuck Danny rules to come. Mojo in back to back games with goalline clearances. He was really on his game defensively in that sense. What else would I say actually, Laurie because if that goes tuning that say from van der Beek was huge if that wallet his legs? Yeah. If that's tuna. Let's it's over it certainly has that feel now that leads into the last question here of how do you feel heading into the second leg? Here's what I will say. I have almost a surprising confidence heading into the second leg. I don't know that they're gonna win. But I'll say this right now, and you can save it. You can market I want you. Remember son is scoring a goal. He's coming back. Just I've written down son to return will lighten the mood. He scorned goal now. Now, there's a challenge certainly I don't know what we're talking in status is going to be and we'll talk about that in a sec. Right. So the challenge much like with Liverpool and what they need to do against Barcelona right now. I don't know how you prevent I XE from scoring and so all too early that could be taught on doing. But this is you know, this is not this is not over now. Like with you Tottenham. Also does. Not have history on their side. Eighteen the previous twenty teens to win one nil on the road in the first leg of Champions League knockout round series went on to advance. The only teams to overturn a one no first leg home defeat were Inter Milan in ten eleven against Byron. And of course in the ninety five ninety six semi's against Panathinaikos. So it's against Spurs as well. Definitely before we go to Virtanen because we need to talk about this. And can I quote, you something, and I just want you reaction. I don't want a don't need a long, you know, I just want to gut feeling on this. Because when I read it it was it was quite jarring to me. And it's it's an element sport. I believe in I suppose, we call it winning time over here. Like in the clutch, a mo- no moment that opens up for a team Jonathan Lou and the independent. After the season ends he's talking about. I XE here. The only team the the only time this team will ever play together again will be one of those legends games you occasionally, see on Eurosport, Frankie Dion is already off the bat. Celona Matteis delicious will go to David Muir as Hakim's Isik already have the superclubs of Europe, circling around them. They know as they've always known that there is no next year. This one has to count is there next year for Tottenham and Choo ensures you'd like to think so their success has been built on evergreen defines of gravity the era that keeps giving Murchio Partido keeps talking about the foundations being put in place the legacy of the new stadium. Gold future that will sustain them for decades to come. But there are no guarantees in this game. The Spurs team of sixty one sixty two probably didn't think it would take another fifty seven years for them to reach another European Cup semifinal either. So is this was that it it is the state of fear that they are perpetually living in your right? I mean, you're right to ask it now. My gut is to say that Cain is not going anywhere. Pocchettino is not going anywhere. Son is not going anywhere deli. These are key players for tongue and maybe out of I don't know might be gone. And now there's a lot of talk about Real Madrid and Tottenham already being in advanced stages of negotiating price. So. The only thing aside from that is the the stadium. Getting built was you know, it's not just about fitting more people in their Danya Levy for all of his stinginess when it comes to, you know, bargaining players and things like that. This was also supposed to be a statement about Tottenham place in the sport in Europe. So if you think we're looking at another summer of Tottenham just sitting there quietly while guys get bought up by other clubs around Europe. That's not happening. I really truly believe this isn't based on anything other than my own feeling on this. And what I've heard as the stadium has has become a reality. I think this is now when they feel it's it's time for us to kick on. Okay. So, but you're right. I don't question longer-term question. It's just interesting that it came up last night. You like I do believe in sport that there are windows winning windows, and like the Buffalo Bills had one passed it up. I'm trying to think of another team that have won as well in in US sports. But that's the directly jarring wound. Where they went to all those Super Bowls. Yeah, you're totally right to mention that last, but not least here on this one yonder tongue clash of heads with Alvarez in the first half. Both guys went down. And then you looked over the camera panned of tongue of on the ground and his face was covered in blood. It was an ugly sight. It was a pretty frightening sight nets were out there right away. He came off the field and looked like they had cleaned up. You're wondering is this just like a nose injury may be broke his nose is a head injury. We were told they went through the protocols of concussion. Yeah. And then he came back out onto said, okay? I'm good. The ref came over looked at him. They cleared him to go back out on the field. And then after about ten seconds. He shook his head. No, no, no, clearly couldn't do it. And then he kind of he walked over to the sideline. And he almost it almost looks like he collapsed st- he had to be carried off by two medics. It was a frightening scene. It was horrific Tottenham come under their medical staff and punch Tino. Oppose have come under a lot of criticism today for essentially allowing this to happen. I'm reading now from ESPN AFC earlier today asked whether he was comfortable with the decision to allow for talking to return to the pitch Pacino said, quote, I wasn't involved. That was the doctor's decision the rules and protocol are so are so important and our medical staff followed the protocol. Now, he's okay he walked away. I hope he's okay. But you know, very well that we need to keep an eye on him. We must protect the players. Of course, I was out of the conversation. Our medical staff follow the protocol. And they decided he could continue the game. But then he started feeling unwell and he had to come off. I'll I'll be the guy who defends Tottenham in the situation. Everyone was so quick on Twitter to just crush them as this happened, which I understand because it was a really bad look. But like if there's a protocol they follow it for tongue and by all accounts, never lost consciousness Tottenham said they've they've reviewed every camera angle of the plane, and they can see he never lost consciousness at any point. When they brought him the sideline they ask them all the standard questions that you asked any answered every single one of them. And then for whatever reason he had kind of this like late arriving reaction to whatever it was it happened the conic that caused that scene on the touchline. So know, it looks bad. But. I don't know. What what else are they supposed to do when I think there's a flaw in the protocol is not so much flow in once Burs did the rules aren't right when there simply isn't enough time to properly assess the player are enough time to wait and see if the delayed onset of concussion happens, which is clearly what happened here. A temporary concotion. Substitute would remove the immediate need to get the player back on the field. I'm with a low for her evaluation would avoid the kind of thing we saw with for tongue last night. Honesty. Andrew as far as I can see there's not enough time. There's an imperative and almost a pressure to not to pass him to get this done and get them back out on the field. Now, we saw what Liverpool. I think it was Liverpool. Who was the player that came off on trying to remember? I saw some game at the weekend. The player wasn't right. And they took him off straight away. But to be perfectly honest with you either leave time is the problem here and the pressure on the player to go back out onto the field. You need to have that temporary. So in Gaelic football is called the blood soap. So if somebody gets caught are they have a buying the heads the player comes off and the team is an impacted materially. That's what needs to happen. That would be a great change for the game. Of course who wouldn't worse if we're serious about head injuries. Yeah. Because the thing that keeps you know hammered home to me is they have to really get tough on this because you know, torn hamstring broken leg. That's all even even the cruciate ligament, which was a career ender? That's all fixable. There is nothing fixable about you know, the effects of repeated concussion, absolutely. Him already said for tongue is going to see a neurologist as well determine whether or not he actually did suffer a concussion without that even being known Tottenham have already said he's not gonna play against born with this weekend. Which is I would say the right call to make so yeah, it was but if adds situation, but this I don't know. I was just like the immediate finger pointing and blame like oh my God. How reckless and irresponsible of the club. I just don't know what it is that people would have done. I don't for one second think that the medics there who, you know, operate under oath are are on our total professionals contravened that to put a player who wasn't right back on the field. Definitely what I would say is that there wasn't enough time for the delayed onset of concotion, which I think we had a an he was a neurologist had emailed us on. I read his Email there few weeks ago who said it can happen. Fifteen minutes after. The head bang or an hour after you buying your head. That's not an off time you need to be able to take them off. Maybe an independent assessor. If you want to totally wash the hands of the club and take the pressure off the copes, which honestly I would say why not now look not for second. Do I believe that these guys are bereft in their dude? Fair to speculate. Like, you're right. If there are just to remove whatever, whatever doubt may be in people's heads. Just you're right. Remove all of it and have an independent concussion specialist on site. I think it'd be a good idea. That's our look at the champions. They I think we handled it well fish sandwich in the brick. That's a good idea. I'm kinda hungry. Now. I've got half a slice of pizza sitting here. Don't go anywhere. We got plenty more coming up. Oh, back now on caught offside j just a wrap up we were just talking about for tongue. And and we'll ever we're talking about changes that could be made to help these situations. You know, we'll ever see the day where everyone is wearing the Petr check headgear. No. I think we could see today. I laughed last year scoffed mocked when I think it was Michael Kelly tweeted out that headers in the box should be the only place that the that they'll be headers. No, you can't head the ball outside say big long. Punt of goal. Can you put your head on it? That's not in the box to limit the headers, and I laughed because I just couldn't imagine it. But if we find out that repetitive. Heading of the ball. Can call that. Or that clashes in the air are causing too many concussions. Then I could see rule change that will limit heading. Well, interesting. It's hard to envision you're right. But right now right now, it's very hard to see. Let's see we've got a mail bag here. Mailed busy Osceola soccer pod caught off site. Pottage Email dot com caught off site ESPN on Instagram. Get us up two thousand followers friends. Unlike the the cool kids on Instagram. Oh, by the way, those of you that have been leaving items reviews. What your suggestions for our five year anniversary pieces that we're going to drop keep them. Calm into some really good ones things. I'd forgotten. Yeah. We should remind people that were doing that. Yeah. It's five years since the podcast began to celebrate. We're we're giving you some old school content. I don't know how we're going to do it yet. But we're going to people. So as an I tunes review if you give us the old five stars. And then in your review mentioned like a moment from the last five years that you enjoyed Bill. We will do the best that we can go back and find it. And then starting dunno maybe in the next month or so at the end of of podcasts will will shout out the person who gave that review, and we'll find the clip and put it in there at the end of of a show good idea, Paul Rizzo. Does the fact that MLS sides can only have three designated players that make decent money. Make the league more attractive to stars. Either aging or upcoming knowing that their ability to shine is enhanced by other teams inability to pay for players on the defensive side of the ball because of salary cap restrictions. Maybe does it make the league more exciting. Are does. It mean. These players can call them in their twilight years and shine. I would say, yes. Yeah. Think we're seeing that. Yeah. Is it a reason that they comb maybe possibly? Yeah. Definitely calm knowing the defending his tongue would be as rigorous as your up, of course. Yeah. And so that's definitely I can pod my numbers there. Because look a byproduct of the like how many designated players MLS our defenders, not any. Yeah. On also, your you. You're coming from Europe, your Vinko, you're coming from Syria, and you're running up against the UNC fullback that came out of the draft who's on sixty grand a year. Right. You know, Jacob sent us picture of Virgil Van Dyke wearing clogs during his time Agron, again, I shall share it with you Andrew Esau, this do you think of that? It's quite something. There's a lot going on there. He's wearing. Jeans. If I had to guess looking at that picture what year that was because those genes like gin coach jeans, I two thousand seven thousand six I mean, he's not that old. So you're probably right. But I would look at that. And I would almost go back even further. Wow. Because. Yeah. Speaking of van while we're talking about him. I saw wanted to read some of these because I saw that COPA ninety tweeted out. So the praise at Van Dyke men getting since he won the PFA player of the year. Troy Deeney said about Van Dyke. I hate him. He's too big too strong too. Quick too. Good on the ball. Let's see Jamal scales of Newcastle. Also, a great young defender in his own right? He is the best defender in the world. Let's see Gary Neville. He's a monster. And is looking like. Yep. Stan. He just throws people out of the way better than. Probably agree with that Andre Silverman. I've noticed more and more emphasis on the connection between style and soccer, especially this year with Jordan brand been used for PS, g jerseys. I know Jordan is a sports. Bryant was also well known for being a stylus statement for athletes. Do you think this increased emphasis is going to introduce new fans to soccer in the US? We already know there's a big connection between basketball, and fashion. Maybe people are trying to do the same with soccer. What would you think of that Andrew? Yeah. I I mean, I think soccer. So what is he saying we're going to see more jerseys around? We already see kind of a decent amount of that. Yeah. I mean, look the Jordan brand as co holds a ton of weight in the US with sports fashion. So I could see that Saturday's football, which is a brand online where you can buy kind of I guess they're like retro stylings of. But their soccer related. They had this catwalk thing in Los Angeles at the weekend heath peers who used to do but to work with COPA ninety. He was at it. And he took pictures of it just basically guys walking don't in the ninety eight ninety nine arsenal. Jersey walking down a catwalk. Like where I come from wearing jersey on the street with jeans or like, that's always been the case. I've seen some interesting websites now are knocking their own kind of retro concept kits from the past so retro stylings man city released a kid of their last six kits combined into one. Yeah, I'm not even talked about that that was that was hideous. But also don't forget that in in in hooligan culture in the eighties in England. The Casuals the football Casuals, they never wore jerseys two games. They would go and buy or steal like Lacoste fee. La, what was the Admiral all all the really expensive sportswear. They would wear that two games. So soccer is also had all was had that kind of cultural crossover. The the problem right now. There's a great soccer store right near my house, actually. And you know, I'll go in there periodically the problem with a lot of soccer merchandise. My God, it is incredibly expensive true of jerseys and most sports, but I look at a soccer jersey. It's like this is like a t shirt, and you're talking like one hundred thirty dollars. That's wild crazy. Yeah. That's not good. Let me tell you a lot of the retro stove and the retro re stylings that these websites are pushing it's expensive to for what it is. Yeah. I mean, you're move really is to just go on EBay. Bay and just by the jersey from like a few years ago is a good website. Classic football, shorts dot co dot UK. They basically warehouse all these jerseys. They get these they go round the world, and by these retro jerseys and their official now they may be worn whatever you wash it. They get some match issue stuff. Also as well on. That's a good website. If you're into soccer, and fashion. Ben ready. Hey, guys. Love the pod. I'm a Manchester United fan, and I'm completely lost on what you know, you should do with some of our players going forward. A lot of things need to happen before the club can start becoming a top club in Europe. Again, we need director of football. And all that that's kind of the most important thing. I do believe all is good manager for the club. But my question is whether or not we should sell Pago. And if we sell them who can we bring in to spark the rebuild in what feels like the fifth rebuild censor. Alex retired. Buddy of mine Berenson who reaches out to us Wli, man. So he's a diehard Manchester United fan, and he sent me a screen shot of a tweet about pocketbook. Takes a lot of you know, takes a lot of stick this season. Paul pod ranks first for United in goals. Expected goals assists expected assist goal involvements chances. Created dribbles touches passing chains. Progressive passes so on and so forth Emory category under the sun yada, yada. I then wrote back to him skinniest kid at a fat camp. Dot's part of it. Also the goals. Penalties. And I understand that that was overly demeaning. Paul Papa is actually he's a good player. He's underachieved at Manchester United in the I think the look to me the reason he leaves. I don't know so much if it will be that United want him to leave. They don't he wants to his agent is meteorologist the problem for United as for what you paid for them. And for what he's given. And for now, the fact is a few years older. So you know, that hurts value. What are you getting back on your investment in him, and how much do they stand to lose you? Now, I know the whole transfer market has gone up significantly the thing last couple years. But the thing about him is the intangibles the very tangible the money, he brings in terms of merchandising and all the spin off things that's part of the reason. United wanna keep not just for for playing. I think United will get a. Good lot of that money back. I mean if Real Madrid or splash the cash like they say, they're to anything is. I don't think he fits for Real Madrid. I don't understand. Why is it down would want him? You don't know if he fits because we don't know what Real Madrid are going to look like next year. Now, we knows a done is there. But in terms of personnel ways idea who he wants gone. It seems like we expect eaten has are most likely to be going there. Things are changing it down was talking about Madrid at the weekend. He was for straighted on its own as if he's he's ready to clear clean shop. Now. I think I think pop is bringing player, and I actually think view can be a great, you know, your team with him in it, of course. But there's a lot more pieces and more clearly define style of play that needs to be implemented before you can see the best pub and maybe United. We'll just cut their losses before the just want for for all the the improvements that need to be made at that club. Someone of value is going to have to go. They can't just spend spend spend. Without without losing anyone lives that who's that guy? There's also the the dressing room, you know, the rumors that are leaking address from about pod, maybe not being the team player and being or acting like he is on settled. And if that's the case this if he's on settled with the agent, he has you're not winning. He's going get rid. You know what I mean? Whether he's good enough or not is is is almost beyond the point. Right because he'll just oh my God. You would not want him rotting in the reserves when mineral oil is badmouthing you in the press, no bearded net. I'm listening to the latest episode. I literally had to pull over to text. You guys. Don't you ever think about changing the name of your channel a show without Andrews intro of? Oh, yes. Go to side from that. Was that a Manhattan will never be the same? Keep the original. And you guys rock that is beautiful. But I could still do that just with a different name. two guys token football that would be the name all right, Rasheed. Finally, I understand that you do not pay attention to transfer rumors as they don't hold any bearing to merit are facts. We don't pay attention to money. Don't love reporting them because so many of the I'd say ninety five percent of the rumors never come to fruition on. And it's also tedious whether agreement your sentiment. I did want to know your thoughts on one particular player who's intimidating moved to another league. Although hope he doesn't he's contributing so much to bring I XE back to European giant hack after so many Britain performances with X both the Champions League is constantly rumor to plan another European league, regardless of the rumors. I wanted to know your thoughts in the following do you think he's capable of playing in the Premier League. Let's answer straightaway. Yes. That's a resounding. Yes. Look what he's doing in the Champions League. Instead. It's just no question. If so where do you see him fitting invest when focusing both his skillset and personality? In terms of his his transfer value. One thing I would say he is not as young as people might think he's twenty six not that the not that he's old. No. But you're in the second portion of your career is he's now in his prime. Yeah. He's not like one of these guys who you know, you'd be getting the front end of it in terms of his personality. Look, I know sometimes he's caused issues at I ask because he's got this strikers mentality of I'm shooting. I don't care I'm shooting, and you know, that's gonna that's gonna bother guys. But I think in the Premier League a lot of teams have guys like that. So I don't know. Is it going to be times when you see him take a shot? That's ill advised and his teammates going to throw his arms up in the air on the other side that's going to happen. But I'll take my chances with them. Klopp a- said that there will be no major signing in into Liverpool in the summer nothing. When when we say major, no big names. Relative term. Yeah. So he said he ruled out Lorenzo and senior. If was even possible that he could end up, and he will be big named. I consider any of these guys right now for what I are doing. They're all now on the radar. They all be major on just ask your question rush. I'd have him in a second in a second into the team Liverpool's name coming up a little bit for different. I XE player. I saw an here we go me tasted Li I saw a day the Devon heiress his name again again, very good player. But I mean, I actually going to hold people's feet to the flood fire over these trophies as they should outside of your football. Do you think he will be the key player to help Morocco win the African Cup of nations? 2019 will. Yes, he's without their star on also look back in their performances in Rocha last summer. They were very very close to to doing a lot of things. I mean they lost by one goal in the game. Drew two two with Spain in the end. They're they're good site. Yep. That's it. There you go. Good stuff. Good mail bag. What to watch? Four. Oh my God mountain. Well, we'll go through quickly. Don't wear a cockatoo Champions League final tonight late ten o'clock PM. So it has already happened most likely by the time, you're listening, but we don't know Monterrey and t- grace mantra holding a one nil advantage heading into the second leg. Nicolas. Sanchez scoring in the first leg for Monterey. So they certainly are on the the front foot heading that could have been worse after that first leg so Tigray may be feeling fortunate that it is still within their reach, but Monterey or great side. It's gonna be it's gonna be a tall mountain for them to clone. JJ Europa league semifinals first legs day, three o'clock arsenal. And Valencia one thing. I wanted to mention here at this point Aaron Ramsey's arsenal. Career is now over he suffered an injury in the second leg against Napoli. It's going to keep them out for the remainder of the season. I am renounced. And then he's off to events this summer years who's an? Arsenal arsenal player. Isn't it fitting that he would leave arsenal with an injury? Unfortunately, I don't mean to be livable. But it's kind of I was going to ask you do mean to be lived. That was very. Literally the question that I that I wrote down here that I wanted to make sure I asked you did he fulfill the potential that he came in with when he was signed a young player from Cardiff not really flashes. Really really great flashes. Hit that one season member. He took off your score twelve games in the twelve goals in the opening fifteen games or something. It was crazy. Yeah. He's one of these guys. I remember we've done podcast where we talked about. Studies being conducted on why our arsenal suffering so many more injuries to other teams. And he's kind of one of those him Jack Wilshere, you know, they were a couple of these guys that unfortunately were on the receiving end of a lot of the leg break stunted his growth early at arsenal. The incident rain show across but I would say, no. Although sometimes when I see him play. I just think like the goal against Napoli. I just think what a class act you can say what you want. But while he was there. He did win three FA cops. And he scored the winning goal in two of them. So at the very least departs arsenal. Having provided at least a few memorable moments. Don't say I'm not fair on this podcast. Just because I'm a Spurs fan because I have those two winning goals here in front of me so arsenal fans if you need something to remember Aaron Ramsey by. Here's the first one Martin Tyler on the call from the twenty four teen FA Cup the winner against hull city. He's. Scheme. Deep into extra-time come back from two goals down isn't there that picture of Jack will share iron Ramsey? I'm trying to think who the other player was. And they're all from the arsenal. Like, oh, maybe a Wolcott or someone. They're all come through arsenal at various stages. Some of them from the academy. In the case of leisure, and they're all signing their new contract and vendors behind them on. It was like this is our SNL witnessing the future. We yeah. But you were going to witness a few Premier League title winning midfields all three of them gone here. By the way, is the second one Ramsey scoring the winner against Chelsea right after Chelsea had scored to equalize. The responsible who report that there's going to be a guard of honour for an Ramsey and Petra check this weekend in Arsenal's final home game against Brighton. So there you go Thursday, three o'clock on-track Frankfort, and Chelsea can you go back a second. I'd something to touch on with Valencia. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So there's lots to either the weekend there six Ligo. Just to give some context, but we missed this from I think about two weeks ago. This was from business insider, despite the fact Valencia has had a bat in its logo. Since the toll was founded in nineteen nineteen the first Batman comic was published in nineteen forty DC comics filed papers to the office for the harmonization of internal market, which governs the European Union's trademark registration process. DC's problem with Valencia is that the club has lodged a variant of its traditional design which has the bat with its wings raised. That's too close for comfort with. Presumably the latest incarnation of DC's bat symbol. So these about symbols right now. Oh, look, it's close. I think Valencia are celebrating. We'll celebrating one hundred years this year. So they've the bat has become a prominent part of their crest. Dc DC can go come on. Listen nerds they've been around since nineteen nineteen. You didn't have your first Batman says nineteen forty relax Thursday, three o'clock on track Frankfort, and Chelsea both these teams enter in pretty poor form Chelsea of one just one of their last four Frankfurt of one just one of their last five, but they're still fourth in both teams are fourth in their respective tables. This like the rope league adding that incentive of the winner gets that spot in the Champions League. I mean, it feels massive this. It's huge every year. But these are pretty big name clubs that are all right on the fringes ending and domestic being a good year generator for track Frankfurt on the Commerce Bank arena is quite something on kickoff. And I see them. I see them. Okay. That means a lot to a lot of people Premier League Saturday seven thirty born with and Tottenham don't care move on Saturday, twelve thirty Cardiff City. And Crystal Palace tone care move on Saturday to forty five Newcastle and Liverpool. Ooh. The Rafeh Darby. This is potentially been on a skin. I will again, I won't say slip up because we are chasing. We need someone else to slip up. Right. But I mean, this Kobe one where we I still think Liverpool win, but you look at the injuries. Now, not became his going to be out Henderson starts. How fit is Bobby for me? Newell is I- Peres ever going to have a game where he doesn't score guy is as informed as anyone in the lease in a rich vein of form. He's what eleven goals for the season, though, twelve feels like they've all happened in the last three weeks actually a lot of them. Have. He went into double figures in the last week. Yeah. Interesting was going to be that atmosphere is whether it's in gyms pack. They wanna finish on a high. They have fresh whole, and we need to crush that. Hope what happens? If like Liverpool. You know, they're they're going in the net. The net is empty through a weird circumstances. And they're walking gonna walk it in solid just gonna end here comes yet Yellen. And he says. Flying. And he comes in with that tackle solid never even saw coming by the way, if you did want to comment about Cardiff sitting crystal policies was Cardiff drinking in the last chance alone here. They're at home. The surely need to get three points. Let's see Sunday nine AM Chelsea and Waterford Sunday. Also at nine AM Huddersfield town and Manchester United has to be three points for United surely could share still lose his job. Yes weeks after getting really I think he could. I mean, it's gonna make on look incredibly weak. But I you don't think they're nervous about this appointment after be they did the thing that I said, they never should have done. There was no reason to was no reason to have hired him officially when they did everyone got so excited. All the good old days are here again and soul. Cya hasn't won. It. It's not that team has ever been time. We've been able to mock Manchester United in such for such a length of time. Let's see Sunday eleven thirty AM arsenal. And brighton. I guess Brighton. Also. Well, they're not drinking in the last chance. Saloon there peering into it from outside. They're thinking about going in for a quick one. Let's see an N last. But not least the other really big game. You're gonna have to wait 'til Monday for it. Which is. The city less city. Can we talk about twenty fifteen twenty sixteen again? Endlessly, I have quietly in really enjoyed Leicester City in recent weeks the broad revolution. Well, I saw somebody on Tottenham Twitter. I saw somebody tweet that it was what was the term that they used like, a borderline fireable offense for Danya. Levy to have not brought in your T LeMond during the January window, especially when LeicesteR can do it. But you know, he's you know, he's getting poached. No. But I'm just talking about for the second half of the season. He's been unbelievable. I think three three goals and five assists since he's arrived at LeicesteR scored last weekend. He has been so good. I'll be curious. What happens with him? I'm telling you. I said on last pot on Tuesdays pod, yesterday's pun. I said I have fantasies of of him getting the ball. And just sliding it in behind the match city defense to the onrushing Jamie Vardi who all the sudden now has found himself back in the the goals lead competition he was out of it. But I think teal Amman's and his ability to provide an assist has really helped already Schmeichal as well. And his ability to provide ace. That's what you call tremendous kata. Sure. His let's the MLS I got a few here for you, ready, Saturday, four o'clock. Nice little rivalry down in Texas, Houston and FC Dallas. Why did you say that like, Texas like Ted Cruz knows George W Bush was it here in Texas? Yeah. That's how you'll need to work on your Republican. I've never once done. A George W impression. I've got the courage to break it out on a show that a lot of people listen to you should be applauding me. Right. And I thought being take crews George W Bush, even though you're dressed like beta will Roque great right now is a great zippered hoodie fourth verse fifth in the west Dallas has taken fourteen of a possible. Eighteen points from their last six games. They're on fire. Meanwhile, Houston of loss just wants the season and the galax beat the crew last weekend. How about Mara notices goal last week in what was the third minute. Like this backheel two defenders on him. I might have been pure locked but still he's a nice player. Dave had this quiet core of players up front that have been wreaking havoc without him a lease. They're dangerous team. What are they missing to be a really good team because they aren't really they. I know they went to the open Cup won the open. It's why they were in. In the they remember your Champions League song player. They. But. But they're not good league. Are they weren't? All right now. I know Saturday, four o'clock Orlando city and Toronto FC Toronto last weekend losing to Portland. It was to see how they responded season been better for Toronto. But they are proving to have some problems in the back. They've allowed ten goals in the last four games that was a massive win for Portland and Giovanni sev- race. Yeah. On the road. What about nanny nine games? Five goals? I was about to bring him up one assist, which tells you all you need to know. Well, there are some players though that are kind of damaging the narrative of MLS being a retirement home for once good European players. I was this damaging that narrative. I'm saying people were saying I'm has moved on from that that it's not that. Leeann right? Right. Right. Yo that it's like, this is no, no, no, you're wrong. This is not a retirement home for European players. This is where young superstar south and central Americans. Come. Well. Let's do the MVP awards latte for him thirty nine right now. Knee, sixty two. Look before we all lose our minds. Can we agree? It can be both things it is still place for you know, the Rooney's and his Lonzo in the nineties of the world and the davick is, and it is also a place for up and coming south and central Americans. I think it's there you can have a blend of both. It's all good everybody. There's room for everyone Saturday, five o'clock Montreal NYC FC. I'm starting to get a little bit up mystic about NYC f c. Why let needs a laugh through April thirteenth? They hadn't won since. Then they've won twice and drawn once. Okay. It's better out Sandra mature, he's typically the third most shots in the league this season. I feel like at some point only scored twice I feel like at some point the law of averages will work out and didn't he's gonna start scoring didn't transfer day though. So he might have knocked for the weekend. Don't think who has didn't trend. I think Haber might not have trained either really. Matriochka definitely didn't TRAN today from the injury report. I saw Saturday late night, ten o'clock, San Jose earthquakes, and Cincinnati all the sudden JJ all the sudden, we did we went into club for FC Cincinnati. And it's been rough since we moved them. They have really slowed down phone that hot start over their last five games. Scored one goal. Fortunately, it was a one one draw. So they did at least got a point. But it has not been in fairness in our conversation. That was suggested that they would Peter Peter down. Yeah. Go that was that was a big what to watch for red card. I go I hear you may a little bit nervous because I know that this will not be well received universally, but I'm giving my red card is lots on Ebrahim of its I thought his actions last week in the galaxies win over rail Salt Lake were just so weak. Let's just call it what it was bullying. I lots on was booked for dragging Needham. Newel to the. Ground by his neck in an off the ball incident. Now, I'm reading this from the BBC newest said, the former Manchester United striker then made the threats to him following another challenge. Shortly afterward, quote, this time he hit me on top of the head. I was thinking what is going on here. Newel told BBC sport. Then once lots on scored instead of celebrating with his teammates. He immediately picked out a new and screamed in his face after the games lots on in his way, tried to apologize for what went on going into the L dressing room and reportedly saying to a new have you calm down yet. Big, man. But new wasn't really having any of it. Here's what he said afterwards. Which is that's the game because you know, from sixty minutes in he saints. He's gonna do me. He's gonna he's gonna hook me for that guy. And this is this is a guy who's the face as he calls himself. But this is the way they plays on the field. So I don't care if someone comes in and says, let's me you don't say that on the field. I don't count I'm not gonna I'm not gonna accept as opposed to acceptable. New also said of the apology the way you came in was almost era than itself trying to be offering which you can pretty much read in in. Zlatan saying have you calm down yet? Big, man. Look, we all know that trash talk is a part of sports that is fine. I saw Bobby warshaw actually wrote an article about this in Annella soccer dot com. Saying that what's did did not necessarily cross the line, which I actually agree with? And I actually like knowing that there are times where not everybody on the field is friends with each other. That is a competitive spirit that I think is healthy and sports fine. But you know, what your tiny Brahima bitch. You're a legend. You're an all time. Great. This is what it takes to motivate you publicly embarrassing. Now. Let's defender is it cool when the popular kid walk through the hall pushing kids down that he's decided aren't cool. Oh. This is the sports equivalent to that a newest said afterwards, quote, even when I played against the events forward Cristiano Renaldo when he was younger he'd be a bit temperamental, but that was his pure desire to win not necessarily disrespect the opponent. Which is what I think this guy is doing there's no I think about it. That's exactly what he was doing. It was unprovoked. It was kinda Thac and in the ends lots attempt to embarrass a new has ended with Zlatan being the one who should feel embarrassed himself card. Look, I was delighted to see that that tan had. Decided to do another season in MLS. Yeah. The reasons I said, it's great. He's he's he's really great to watch. And he's I mean like I would sit down in then two station of one of his long-range volleys gladly watch ninety minutes of a game that I might have huge interest because he is that kind of flare. But like that kind of behavior is just it's low. He's there's no need I, but but also I've never bought in. He's his stick which people in this country lap up. There are some things culturally. I don't get over here. He can say anything and people will go full re tweet like it. It doesn't matter. It goes around comparing to lion. All this this. Stick is boring. I'm glad newest stood up to him. I really am. I thought I that's that's the way you gotta to deal with them being dot player with that repetition of excellence on the field should hold himself to a higher standard. We know trash talk goes on. It's always gone on in football, especially between center hives a centre forward, but this was distasteful, and look like you said trash talk goes on if a new had been saying in the build up to this game owes locked-on thinks he's this thinks he's that watch. I'm gonna shut him down different story. I'd be like, okay. This is this is what you get. But this was just so unprovoked just like picking out this one guy, and I'm gonna make his day. Hell not score to tap in. And then screamed in a his face. Go celebrate with your teammates be happy that you just go to go on one the game. It was just week to me that was week. What do you have Andreu? We in on this podcast are very quick to point out the problems what racism in football in other countries. So we might as well do some of our own calling out. Jeff Carlyle wrote a pretty good article on an incident that happened in US L, the tosa roughnecks have terminated the contract of move midfielder Fabio and us after he was accused of racially abusing an Oklahoma City energy player, June US match this week end following Saturday's game between the roughnecks and okay, see energy midfielder, a T behind us posted on Twitter that a tosa player that are dented as as status had called him. The N word on two occasions. Both the roughnecks annual sowed president Jake Edwards issued statements vowing to investigate the matter. And after determining the us was the player involved. The roughnecks took the took the step of severing ties. The tosa roughnecks announced today the termination of being busted his contract with the club following his use of foul on abusive language, jawing last night's match with Casey energy, f c told said in a statement, the players actions are violation of the league's zero tolerance policy and do not represent the beliefs and values of our club, nor the community we represent now we're looking for solutions and swift action cancelling the contract of a player was done. That is a sands about a strong message as you can do in the US L. So I thought that was worthy of of amount of the match to the US. Well, it was your red card red card. It was right card because the incident happened with could be best at us. It is what it is. It is the whole thing. The fact that you would do that in a game to a player is just I mean, it's it's crazy. But also, you can say amount of the match for the way it was dealt with. Yes. You you certainly. That's you're right. That's how you handle it like, okay, you're gone. You're gone. This is not zero. You're not representing this teens hero tolerance policy caught off sides man of the match you wanna keep going amount of matches native Manuwa. Oh, yeah. Look at us in lockstep. Yeah. I like when that happens. Nice synergy, partly because I've become so tired of this Latin steak. I was just waiting for someone to stand up to him. And he may not have been the hero expected Andrew, but I was lat of his intervention and hopefully ten learns I don't think he learned. No, no. What are you? Crazy. I can't wait for the next time. These to play this is only the beginning. This is chapter one you feed on this. Let's see my man of the match JJ referenced it at the start. And I wanted to make sure we mentioned it here again before we got out Eka Casillas think we were all pretty stunned today when we saw the news that the Thirty-seven-year-old thirty seven year old FC Porto and Spanish goalkeeper had suffered a heart. Tack at training. He was rushed to the hospital, but is now out of danger. Which is obviously great news Oporto statement read cassia suffered an acute myocardial infraction during Wednesday mornings training session held at the Porto guy training center in olive all the work session was promptly interrupted to provide assistance to the Porto goalkeeper who is currently at the hospital. C U F Porto see us as well. Stable and his heart problem is solved rail Madrid also released a very nice heartfelt statement, wishing him a speedy recovery. And then to the delight of everyone Casillas himself tweeted out a picture where he actually looked great. He was in his hospital bed. But he he really looked good. He didn't look weary or anything like that. And he tweeted this is a kind of a rough translation everything is under control here a big scare but with the forces intact. Thank you very much for the messages and affection. Obviously he is one of the faces of this. Port for this generation for everything that he did it Real Madrid and Spain and what he's continued to do Porto. I don't know that I've ever really heard a bad thing said about the guy. We're obviously all hoping that this has a happy ending which right now all appearances indicate that it will. And so I just wanted to give give a shout out to Eka Kosice home. Did he gets well soon? I remember his debut for the drid while seventeen years of age just seems like he's being run forever. And he's only thirty seven which is the scary thing that's going to be interesting to see you this thing impacts going forward. I remember when KANU had heart surgery, and I thought well would that be the end of them and he came back and he had a pretty early in his career. So I wonder what this means for C big picture. Just delighted that he's core. He's doing. Well. Absolutely. So there you go. There you go my friend beefy pod at sure is back to back days. We got throw it. It's not over. There is still second legs to be played crazier. Things have happened. Not just for some not talking about spur. You guys to keep that shit up over there. All right. Look, I'm gonna eat my feelings for tonight and tomorrow, you have more feelings to eat all my God. I'm gonna eat on the way home. Definitely I am. I am. I'm low Andrew quite low. Well, hey to you. I say. Have a good one my friends take. You're listening to cod off side soccer podcast.

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Caught Offside: Is it too late now to say Sarri?

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Caught Offside: Is it too late now to say Sarri?

"Hey, guys. It is Andrew and JJ here with caught offside. We're starting a little bit differently on today's podcast because unfortunately, the news that we're starting with is is terrible, quite frankly, Emiliano Sala and his plane have gone missing somewhere over the English channel and JJ right now, it just seems that the news is bleak. I think at best he Adly yet. There's been various reports that you know, the they haven't been able to they will resume the search for the plan. But at this level of time that has elapsed they're they're concerned that it is. It is not good news at all the time line of all this is just I mean, this is tragic under any circumstances. But just like to think of you know, probably how excited he was at this point in his life making a move. To the Premier League that could potentially, you know, who knows set him on his way, he Miliana Sala for those who aren't really aware of his history, his background. He's twenty eight years old. And I think he was looked upon by some analysts some fellow teammates, even as sort of a late bloomer yet terms of his football and career, but he had really, you know, started to kind of get more exposure from I think October to December in league he had scored eight goals during that window. And clearly he was on the radar of Kara are of Cardiff City who just laid out the most money that they've ever laid out for any signing fifty million pounds to bring in Sala. I'm we have the video of him walking around the Cardiff of stadium and his excitement. And of course, in in this day and age leaky have got hold of the were presuming watts app messages that he sent to his friends in areas and Tina is he was on the plane before the plane. Went missing and his excitement and talking about how tomorrow he would train with his new team on. And it's just terrible. Yeah. I it really is. He was reportedly one of just two on board the light aircraft. Now, I guess it's the plane is is thought to have disappeared off the radar somewhere around Gerns -i, and it's their police that appear to have taken charge of this search and rescue. They've said that they found no trace of the aircraft or those on board. That is. I mean, the story is changing rapidly were recording at around eight o'clock eastern time on Tuesday night. They tweeted this that if they did land on the water the chances of survival are at this stage, unfortunately, slim, which is just a really grim message for to have been sent out by the Guernsey police Yelm, eight hours ago, they said Guernsey police said a number floating objects have been seen in water. We have. I've been unable to confirm whether any are for missing aircraft. We have phoned. We have found nor signs of those on board this from the BBC, John they write John Fitzgerald chief officer of the Channel Islands air. Search said the probability of finding anyone alive from the missing aircraft was quote, reducing very rapidly. I think with the see temperatures and the sea conditions the chances of finding any beat anybody alive or reducing all the time. He said the temperatures are very very cold and just sapped the core. Temperature of anybody in the water very very quickly. It's man it's difficult to think about to even read. I'm sure the Cardiff City community is is morning this as of course, is the Argentinian community. And of course, the nonce community of the club that he played for a kind of a spontaneous vigil. Yeah. Broke out earlier today. And here's some of the south. Sounds from that. Here the fans of the club there they've gathered and they're chanting his name. It's funny because if you see the footage which had on if you go to their Twitter, you can see that video. It's so strange because you don't know what to do. You're waiting on news. You're pretty sure the news is going to be horrific and fans do what what comes natural to them, and they just chant his name. But there's a couple of fans who are they have tear streaming down their faces. They chanted Miano Saleh's nam, it's just incredibly tragic and an awful. And you know, you just think about his family right now. Yeah. One more note on this. Saw this written about a million Asala. This is from Eric a builder men's piece at the BBC. He said on the pitch is confrontational off it. He has led a quiet life. He loves the -tective novels and whenever go to an away game without taking a book he plays guitar too. But took that up quite late and usually prefers to leave it at home, a common morning site in nonce was solid. Seated to the table outside a cafe with his labrador Naja curled up at his feet destiny is cruel. Very sad. Twenty eight years old, obviously everybody is hoping and praying for the best. But like we just read for new to you from the Guernsey police and from the chief officer of the Channel Islands air. Search the outlook is not promising, but we will of course, continue to monitor this. And like, I said hope and pray for the best Emiliano Sala. Everyone is thinking of you. We'll be back right after this with more caught offside. Caught off side with Andrew gumming J J D Benny. Yes. Caught offside from the Upper West side of Manhattan, Andrew gumming, and j J Davani what's up, brother. How are you? I'm doing well doing well. We've got a big show coming up for you here today. We're going to get into yet. Another injury for Tottenham. It is really really starting to pile up for them. Now, it's almost become comical like it's almost become one of those situations for me when when I saw the tweet today from Spurs about the diagnosis. It was just like you kinda just laugh like at just how this is all unfolding now and just like the dark humor in it. So we will talk about some of that also JJ people seem to respond, positively to our in the club segment that we did. And that was for wolves don't say it like that. But typically like look like honest with one another the bulk of time on this podcast is typically spent talking about the big six and maybe Everton, by the way, you nixed. A in DeKalb about leads United in disparaging terms. For one of the biggest clubs in ever bring our off. Mike discussions about this podcast. Cousin people say, Dr people said don't air your dirty laundry in public, but some day dirty laundry makes the best body as what? Yeah. And Muccio salaries dirty laundry was also aired. I'm will be aired on this podcast. Yeah. We are going to catch up with Dan dormer. One of the hosts of the London is blue podcast. Because like we've always said we like having writers on the show. We like having reporters on the show numbers of the media. But you know, we are this. Of course is a podcast, and we support other podcasts the whole podcast community. So we like hearing from people who are kind of like us who don't necessarily purport to be journalists or analysts were kinda just fans that have a Mike and we're very fortunate for that. So we kind of like giving a voice to some other clubs podcasts. Now, the one thing I wanted to say that I didn't say before the wolves one. And I'll say this now, you know, we're having people on from these other podcasts that I can't tell you that I've gone back and listen to everything they said, it's not necessarily an endorsement of all of their views and all that. Yeah. No, no. Because you just never know what kind of things get talked about on some of these writings Pacific podcasts. We were washing our hands of this. We're just we are merely doing our segment on they do their thing. And we are not responsible for any type rent. I barely responsible for our own content. But having said that I I do believe that Dan dormer is a great voice on Chelsea and all things happening with that club. So we're going to talk with him in our in the clubs segment a little bit later on in the podcast because they find themselves as a club right now. In a really really weird spot a couple big things in the news that we want to talk about Tim Howard, an American legend in Evertonian legend has decided that this is going to be this upcoming year will be the final year of his career. So we'll have to talk about that. So yeah, lots and lots to get to we will have another podcast on Thursday of this week. Because obviously the the League Cup second legs are taking place Wednesday and Thursday. There's obviously no drama whatsoever to the Manchester City Burton Albion second leg, which is nine nil. But Tottenham Chelsea not the case lots of drama headed into the second leg so on Thursday after that match is gone final. And we know what the final will be of the League Cup. We'll have a special podcast out for you. But we start now with what we were talking about before. And that is taught them before we start can I? A cross you. Right. Their peers who already have can. I just say that. I got a weird. Well, not weird. It's not that weird. But I guess strange linked in request today. Oh on it was from Thomas 'grana, Mark. Who is the throwing coach at Liverpool football. I feel like that's a name that we've talked about before. Yeah. When when did that come up, I think it was when to be in sports analysts decided to deride the appointment. I'll tell you what I'm taking. I'm no officially a throw in coach. I'm sorry. Sorta in coach, right? Here's a boat. You. You watch it you put the Borlaug the both times you take it behind your head. Like you throw in keeping both on the. Okay. So I'll tell you what I'm doing. I'm no I'm officially a through and coach and I'm also going to some clubs litter. This months to kick off. I think that's important. Yeah. Thomas. Welcome to my hyenas. Yeah. Unbelievable. And that was my red card. They hadn't done the stats on the possession. They hadn't done the statue on the by the way, the amount of throw ins versus the amount of kickoffs. They never did that ratio. But whatever I like beat England in the euros because of their like their stolis at stoke under polis survivor ever. I Thomas Grahn America. Welcome. You're linked in. I'm sure is is an amazing follow. It's probably a thrill a minute move on to move. Like, what are you doing on Lincoln? How much fun is that to me and Thomas talked about throwing techniques? Okay. Well, that is doesn't like fun. JJ weakened in EPL. We wanna talk a little bit about Spurs stealing three points at the death from Fulham. Thanks to a really the last touch, basically, Harry winks heading it in on a beautiful what to ball. Yeah. From George Kevin in koo-do, not not. He stepping up. You know, what they say about injure teams in the NFL next, man. Oh, yeah. Well, honestly. Yep. And and for Harry wings to be the guy on the end of it. We'll tell you. He's having a nice little time in the center that Spurs midfield end is attracting quite a lot of attention. It was it was a stunning finish. It really was to a game. Where I mean, it was a hammer blow for Fulham just to look for one second that you've got to renew. Gary was just devastated how he ghosted in. Nobody saw him on between two defenders and nodded at home now on the NBC broadcast. They were saying that the keepers gotta come for that. I think so it was a little bit unfair. That can't the ball. Just be perfect of keepers. Don't want to do that anymore because of the movement on the ball these days because players can whip that ball so quickly. But. Yeah. Back in the day. Andrew the goalkeeper will come out and punch in take everybody. And he never did. Yeah. I guess I don't know. Sometimes I feel like we just we search a little too hard sometimes to find someone. Perfect ball. But really what the keepers? Look how close to the goal. The keep that's supposed to be his area that he dominates, and he doesn't do anything. Look. It's interesting to see who will step up in these moments for Spurs because they need people to do it winks. Did I thought Danny rose was fantastic for them in this game? I'll tell you didn't I thought Fernando your aunt had just a nightmare of time. He has the snow the own goal, and you could just see like, what couldn't recover from whatever. Both the own gold ahead or from about six yards that he he's got to a top player at a team. Like Spurs has got the nod that home whether you're a bench player. Are stacking pair on it hits his shoulder hits his head. I his face onto his shoulder. But then what about the one in the eighty six minute that could have won it yet? No, he it's over for him there. He cannot. But it can't be it can't be. No, it can't be able to. It's over for Vincent looks like it looks all my God. I honestly forgot. He was still a member of the team. It's an easy thing to do right now. One thing for Fulham before we do talk about the injury crisis at Spurs right now. Well, I think metro which is a good player for Fulham. But man like is it too. Harsh of me to say that I lost a little bit of respect for him with how things played out late in this game. And I'll explain why. So you're them and you are now entering a stretch of the season. Where literally every point matters. It's going to be that close for them to survive relegation. So you you've battled with Davidson Sanchez throughout and it was you know, I thought it was a fun battle to watch as a fan. Like, it was physical both ways. Both guys were getting their shots. And it seemed all all good. Yeah. And then Mitch chooses a moment late in the game to just straight up. Tackle he grad Sanchez, kind of around the neck almost and just takes him to the ground. Okay. Fine. Like he's had enough yellow cards both ways. So be it. Let's all I don't know. Why to right now? I don't know why Sanchez got one. But whatever. Happens like double technicals in the NBA. So then like, you would think at that point the referee is on high alert like okay, there is something happening between these two. It's been going on all game. I just gave him yellow cards each. So what does Mitch do what maybe four or five minutes later? Sanchez clears the ball out of play kicks abounds and Mitch for no reason goes out of his way and shove Sanchez from behind. And then goes and runs to get the ball and Spurs players are kind of yellow to the ref. What is that Sanchez to his credit wasn't calling really for a red? He just kind of went on with it. But like nothing wound up happening. But I'm saying when I'm watching that as a fan, if I'm a Fulham fan, I'm thinking how selfish of a player are you that you are now allowing yourself to completely melt down because of this guy, and you're possibly going to get red card and thrown out of a game that it looks like we're headed Fulham if you're a full and fan, we're headed to a point here in a game against Spurs where we probably never thought we had any business getting a point we could do this now. But this guy is just like he's so wrapped up in a personal battle. Devon Sanchez this unnecessary push minutes after he was yellow-carded. And a referee is on high alert watching. In that matchup. What is he thinking? Yeah. Just drives me nuts when I see players do that. But I've noticed even in his time at Newcastle. He can call nice late had figure as a centre forward. And he does get into those bottles. Any does get frustrated. I don't think it's so much the bottle of Davinson Sanchez rather than the frustration of what was going on around him in a game that Fulham could've won that game. Probably should have won that game. Yeah. Maybe I mean, Ryan Babel was actually fantastic. I thought in the first half it was one of those things where when run area decided to take them off in the second. I was kind of like thank God. Yeah. I think the NBC commentators afterwards said that if you were to take some grains of hope out of this game for Fulham that the triumvirate of bobble Mitch aversion Shirlow might be something to take from it. But I'll tell you. It's it's it's getting late fast for them. Yeah. So for Spurs deli scores the goal to tie it early in the first half and then a little bit early in the second half. And then a little bit later in half number two as he's going for a ball kind of along the sidelines sort of falls. Into the end boards, and he stayed down. And I thought oh, maybe he at the end boarding rally and grabs his legs. Then you see on the replay immediately. He grabs the back of his leg hamstring. And you just think like are you serious right now another hugely important player at this specific position is going to go down for Tottenham. And it turns out that it's about as bad as as it could have been out until early March. Yes, what they're look significant. The fact that he if you watch the way he goes over in the way, his leg, not buckles, but goes underneath him that the it was a pretty significant hamstring tear. Well, they refer to it as a strain while I don't know the difference between Attaran Australia, actually, I shouldn't say tear tears, which is more serious than if is a strain. It's probably a high hamstring strength. Point being he's out for some significant time and the concern is I was joking about Troy pirate last week seventeen year old Troy power. Is he going to is gonna angel be Noah permanent member of the squad? The answer is. Yes. Most like, well, we'll see. Well, hang on. Dave. They've got to go into the market then with the few days that are left. Yeah. You try and do some kind of loan business. If they don't have the money, I'm reading today. And look, you know, anybody who's listening to this podcast knows we really really don't care for getting into transfer rumor because everyone else does them and because I'd say ninety eight percent of them are largely nonsense. Never come to any sort of addition. But I think in this case with Spurs you have to take everything seriously. I mean, we'd seen Callum Wilson's name length today. I'm reading Marco or not if this move to China doesn't end up happening as hers Canadian west time, no way of west time are selling in January two spars on the only actually I say, there's no way the only way. What happens is if it's the mega money dot the Chinese were talking about because oh, it won't be so ready. Golden Sullivan are all about taking the money and cashing it. And they want number never offering China money to West Ham for Markel system is not happening. Okay. So there you go Spurs right now are without the following attack minded players deli. Cain son who almost came back there round the Asian Cup South Korea's round of sixteen match went to extra time where South Korea ended up winning two one soco who for the sake of this argument, I'll consider somewhat of an attack minded player. Lucas Mora was out this past weekend. But they're saying now he should be back this week possibly for the Thursday match against Chelsea in the League Cup. So what do you do like this is now the dilemma for Spurs is they can essentially be held hostage by whomever. They're negotiating with because of the depth of of this problem at this specific position like, you know, the way Tottenham conduct business. I don't see them throwing good money after. Bad here. Like, I I don't think that they're just going to overreact to a temporary problem and bring in a play. Okay. Fine, bringing our knowledge of it. And then what happens when everyone's healthy again. He's not a first team player. Not in my opinion, not for that team. So now, you've got a malcontent sitting on your bench like is that what you wanna do because you were so desperate to pick up points during a four week window. That's why you've I don't know why you would worry about what Spurs are actually going to do if indeed the doing. I don't think they're going. Honestly, I'm not even saying this is a joke like self deprecating fan. I don't think they're going to do anything a truly feel that way. This is going to be one of Paci greatest tests in terms of his coaching. Because now he has just got to deal with what he's got. And he's got to keep them a coherent challenging top four team despite these catastrophic injury. And by the way, I do want to say one thing in Tottenham on I guess more specifically Daniel Levi's defense for people who are looking at their current situation and saying, well, this is what happens when you go entire summer without buying a single player. No, no, no, no, no. This is not like a Daniel Levy problem. This is a circumstance problem like Tottenham right now. Yeah. Hang on. No. Well, hear me out for a sec JJ, Spurs her without Cain, son. Lucas deli alley all attacking up front. If city were without a guero, Jay's Zeus Saana and sterling guess what? They'd be in trouble to correct. The what I would say is that you can't get back open is the Daniel Levy issue because they've just spent the guts of a billion on a stadium. But I'm I'm talking about their inactivity and the transfer window. I'm saying that like I don't look at their inactivity over the summer and say that this is a symptom of that. No like, this is a symptom of bad. Luck of a lot of players at one position getting her. It's akin to Liverpool lose in two of the of the from three or something like that. He's I gore key guys at one spot. I don't disagree with you. Here's the games at alley and Kane will both potentially miss second leg against Chelsea this Thursday in the League Cup Champions League. First leg verse Borussia Dortmund, an EP L match at Chelsea and EPL north London Darby against arsenal. The League Cup final should Tottenham get past Chelsea and possibly or maybe more likely probably the second. Leg against Russia dormant as well. There's other matches in there too that I didn't mention, but those are the key ones and those are some absolutely massive fixtures that they have in this window. It's going to be hard for them. There's no way around it. I think it's going to be interesting for the neutral watched birth. It really is. Yeah. Sending the names you're going to see out there, the formations that are going to be played the players that are going to be asked to blow to position it's going to be interesting. Yeah. Certainly well over the weekend we were treated to a couple of great four three thrillers. We'll start with LeicesteR who lost a wolves in really devastating fashion. And once again, I feel like we talk about this. At least once a year JJ were Claude pupils name appears on the hot list managerial hot-listing, I believe the bookmakers now have him as the odds on favourite to be the next manager sacked from his current job. What do you think about that? There's even when they're winning take for example, the game on New Year's day against Everton where they wouldn't will nil. And neither team looked grays. But LeicesteR definitely looked the more potent than you think that's a really good result. But even during that game Vardi is coming over to the sideline to ask you will wad of the taxing here. What are we what are we doing? What are we? There was a general sense that the players haven't been behind him even when results were going, well, and there's a certain sense that the Lester fines think less or compla- better football and still win on its again, this this this area, we find what claw PU her you think he's actually doing a good job. Just like, it's a danton. But it's not convincing players are. It's not convinced fans. And ultimately, he does pot most primarily managers do who've lost five games in eight. They get sucked. Yeah. I it's really that. Simple. It's he just there's something about him at LeicesteR. That's not a fit. Now, if I think if the players worn behind him, but yet the the funds were really really behind him the board of giving him this. This kind of what what do we usually call the dreaded vote of confidence. He's got he's I think he's going to have until barring something unforeseen like a really catastrophic drop off. I think he's got till the end of the season. I think a board level you look at what they're doing. You're like, okay, they're they're solidly where we'd expect them to be. But I don't know the players do not seem behind him. And that's that's always gonna properly. Let's look at what happened in this game. I mean, I know west Morgan did score. But like defensively he I'm sorry. He can't cut it anymore. No, he can't. So what is like what is Claude all supposed to do make him run faster to track back? We seem this season with born motto body was where he was sent off. I mean, I guess the manager's job to have addressed that in the summer. And you know, it's not like he didn't by sent a centreback. He brought in Johnny Evans who I thought again that game Goodison sticks out where he had a very good performance. I don't know. You don't want to say this about Lester where you're at right now with I don't think there's someone that's going to come in and make it better. They're nine th right now in the table. Yeah. Where like where would you have thought? Now, if you want to say, okay, fine, twenty seven and nine watt for 'em wandered and wolves are both ahead of LeicesteR right now. If you're Leicester City supported you can look at that and say come on we should be doing better than them. But like, it's it's it's a fireable offense to be ninth instead of seventh on I think that the board were right to keep him around for at least a little bit long. Don't forget the rule that senior players at LeicesteR of had before and the removal of managers. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So that's an that could be an issue. Yeah. Meanwhile, Liverpool edge and Crystal Palace for three as well. Thanks to goals from their big three city, also one. So the GATT for Liverpool remains the same. I mean, let's let's take your temperature here. JJ what? How are you feeling in the heat of this title race? Let me just give you the heat of that game. I wasn't feeling. Well, I thought I thought they were poor they started they started. Okay. But Roy Hodgson out his tactics work. Oh, perfectly on on the break. Christa potus were excellent Zaha give million or just a really really tough day, which look Miller is a something midfieder being plugged in to replace your injure right back. So it was never a perfect fit the midfield. Kate who was poor. They still don't have that midfield. Three sorted out. Look they went for two. I think in the end they deserved to win. My temperature is I feel good. But there's some areas I'm worried about and it's again, it's it's it's injuries. Sent the second centre-half position. We won't Gomez back as quick as possible and Miller you worry about that. Again. I'm not sure about the way he configures that midfield. I'm I'm a little bit nervous. But I'm going to be all the way to the end of the season. You are and you should be by the way, this is a little bit off topic. But while you mentioned, James Milner. So he was sent off. Yes. And he was sent off by John moss. Right. Did you know? And I'm looking at the photo right now that twenty years ago. John moss was James Michener's phys Ed teacher in primary school, no way. I'm looking at the picture right now. And it's been kerm confirmed by the Premier League that the photo is genuine. I'm reading teachers often get credit for kick starting the careers of sporting stars. But James Milner might not be singing the praises of his ex Tudor. The Liverpool player was sent off against Crystal Palace by referee. John moss who was known as P E teacher at Westbrook lane. Primary school in Leeds. The midfielder thirty-three was dismissed late on after picking up a second yellow card for Fallon Wilfried Zaha. I did not see on his, but it's being confirmed. That's crazy. I'm looking for photo here. And I'm almost having a hard time picking out James Milner. Like, we always talk about boring, James Milner. He just kind of looks like a combination of every kid in this photo. It's hard to tell. That's not really shocking. Right. He's just like the wallpaper. Yeah. Isn't that? Jon moss. Oh, wow. Look at him twenty years ago. This is unbelievable. You forget how long mentors in the game Donncha. Yeah. Well, 'cause he started. So I mean, it feels like him and like you ever played the same as game. Like if I were to say a player's name. What are you doing over here? How am I supposed to continue on with the show? What are you doing? Sorry. My I was about today. It's always something. Sorry, if I were to say a player's name. Who's the next player that don't even think about it? When I say James Milner, who's next player you think of? Jermaine pennant for the answers Gareth barium. Sorry. Oh, yeah. That makes sense. Actually, I don't know. Why just is no they came up. I won't say that came up together. But Gareth Barry was at least he was twenty. He came gap by he made his debut so early that he was twenty four for it seemed like a decade Canterbury's. You know? He's not. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jermaine Pennant's another one because I remember when he was transferred dire. Snow and then you thought oh Jemaine pennant must be in his mid thirties. Now on he was like twenty five just being around the game. Solon absolutely JJ. We mentioned a little bit at the start of the show. Chelsea it's time to talk about Chelsea. And we're going to do it Murchio. Sorry made some unbelievable comments about his club after their two nil defeat to arsenal. Here's some of what that sounded like. Today to speak it because they want to send a message to my place, and I want my message to be very clear. This defeat was due to mentality. Replayed again as the team which mentally was more determined than we were. Having. It seems to me that other group of players that are not particularly aggressive memento point of view of. They don't have that kind of ferocity and then mentality. I'm not something. We can think is downsizing the place all that characteristic. And it's something which is difficult to change because you have to try to influence the mentality. And it's something which could take quite a long time. Just ruby Justin Bieber there there from the Chelsea press officer what what is being said there is actually pretty shocking stuff from a manager. It's it's shocking. I never realized just be Baru. Such clunky lyrics to Sarria barely fits. I never knew his song was about a former Bank manager turned football manager. It's unbelie I mean, quite frankly, like, we talk all the time is that is it okay for managers to land bass their players publicly is that a tactic that doesn't work. I don't I'm not someone who will go. So far to say, it's a tactic the won't work. I do think if you have the right group of players, you can get them to respond to that sort of thing. But I don't think this is the right group of players like this is now a team with some exceptions that has kind of been through a couple of different managers Marino to Kante to sorry all legends in their own, right. And like it's the same thing for each one of them. So I think this is just like this is just what you got. Yeah. When you hear manager said, these pairs are difficult to motivate. That's your job as literally your job by what you is it like some of it. I people say that all the time. I I don't know, man. I really think that like it's it's incumbent on you. You as a professional to also motivate yourself, the manager can set you up, tactically. He can try to put you in the best position to win shirt. He can try like motivation is certainly part of their job. But to me, that's that's on each individual player to find it within himself to be a professional getting paid a ton of money fans are paying a ton of money to support you. I'm not sure agree with that. But but in in any event, that's almost ten gentle to the point about Chelsea what? Sorry, Santa both this team is I think you need to break the whole thing. 'cause I'm not sure I have the time or the patience to get these. I do what I wanna do. It is weird though. And when he says something like this it kind of impugns everyone. But like I have a hard time. First of all he thought he was like in love with Georgina isn't that his guy, and and it's weird for me to hear this being said about goal Kante. Who's now a World Cup champion. And was maybe the best player on that team. And on that Leicester City team cannot believe that in go Conti who you could literally put. I talked about milliner playing right back. You can play and go Kante anywhere in the field. And he'll do a job for you. Yeah. I he's talking about him. Georgina was Georgina was like basically brought in to play I rebuilt like he's in. If he is the most important cog in what's he's trying to do. These comments were were pretty jarring. And that's why we wanted to do this. Go. Crummy. That's right JJ. We're going in the club with Chelsea, Dan. Dormer? One of the hosts of the London is blue podcasts were excited to speak with him. Like like, we talked about before the top of the show. We like going to other podcasts other clubs and and doing a deep dive with a fan that knows the ins and outs. And we do that right now for a club that has been under a bit of a microscope lately that we've been talking about that as Chelsea. And it's Dan dormer from the London is blue podcast on caught offside right now. Dan, what's up, man? How are you doing doing great guys? You know, I I don't know necessarily for under a microscope as much as we're just a kind of lifetime level research project for someone. It's going to be someone's thesis somewhere in in some kind of period of time. Always something do always dissect Chelsea I look forward to reading that thesis someday. Now, we wanted to go a little deeper on Chelsea after we heard that quote from it's your Murchio sorry that we played before. When you hear? I'm sorry say that you agree with your manager. I think it's been proven over Marino. Two point zero and Tonio Kante and recess. Sorry that it can't all just be down to the manager, right and recess. Sorry. Does have to look at himself pretty hard in the mirror to understand where he has some opportunities. You know, he's been willing to change tactics in some. But not all the games. You know, the game we played against Manchester City was much different than the game. We lost against arsenal. Here just in the past weekend, and he was willing to flex a little bit tactically there. So there's maybe some opportunity for him to own some of that. But I think there is a long term issue of players continuing to control the locker room in having the year Roman Abramovich or marina who's kind of defacto runner of the club from day to day standpoint. And yeah, I it's there are I think players on this side that do have to also look in the mirror and understand what their level contribution is. And if they're gonna fight in the same way that you know, the Lampard the Essien the drug the Ballack, the Pedder check the John Terry's the world because that steel that might that desire to fight into the last breath is just something that really the side is not I think has no identity even close to that done account. Remember who it was on your last London is blue podcast who said the following in the wake of the arsenal defeat. It's too easy for Chelsea players to not try to coast because there isn't enough competition is that of you that you feel is widespread amongst blues funds. Yeah. I mean, when you look at the fact that the competition between players, you go look at Manchester City for examples, you know, great individual team to look at when you have you know, we look at sauna you can look at sterling you can look at Rio Mars they have multiple players in each position that you could say could be starting for another primarily excited. And so they have crafted are putting together, you know, my theory too starting eleven like anyone that's gonna compete across all four competitions in the permanently trampoline Champions League. Or this case. Russell Lisa's your Europe league the League Cup and the FA Cup needs as close to to starting lemons as possible, and we are nowhere near that capacity. When we have him and his art as the defacto Sandra forward with drew behind him William Pedro as the thirty plus wingers on both sides with counterparts and adore as than the deputy. And then Ruben Loftus cheek has been deployed in that. Functionality as well, we have Victor Moses Danny Drinkwater collecting, wonderful paychecks to provide Instagram likes to their fellow players. And I it really is just reeks of poor squad management and an overarching understanding of what the true identity of the type of football Chelsea wanna play and how they want the club to be run. And I think that's where we look at. You know, you are. So obviously, he's just let go of you know, they're kind of defacto your head of recruitment who could be sporting director for other clubs were missing that type of figure since Michael Manala left to chew provide some level of structure oversight to how the squad is going to be assemble the type of players that we're going to go out and buy, and there just doesn't seem to be a level of continuity from window to window and even from manager to manager willing to overhaul sides by three or four new players seldom others to make headway, and you know, a line for. For you know, a one to two year to three year window try to win many trophies as we can and blow it up and rebuild again. And that's not sustainable when other sides like Manchester City, like we're seeing now at Liverpool are putting together foundational building blocks yet we can't just blow it up and then rebuild every couple years. When other teams are now building what I was a are very long term projects for sustained success, dander, Mer from the London is blue podcast joining us here on caught offside, Dan, you mentioned hazard, and he look he's such a tremendous talent. We all know that. And he's been a part of so many great Chelsea moments over the years, but I saw a quote from him today. And I don't know. I mean, it caused me to pretty much stop what I was doing. This is what he said in my career. I have frustrated all my coaches and with sorry once again, I frustrate him. I frustrated Marino they think that I need to Mark more do more of this and more that and the next coach that I have a frustrate him as well. Like, I said he's so great as a player. But when you hear something like that. I mean, he. Doesn't explicitly come out and say that his coast coaches are questioning his work rate. But that's kind of what I read from that. I mean when you see that like, do you just want to shake him and be like dude wake up like your great player? Just do it. Their coaches are asking. Well, we we know that his defensive game has never been a hallmark even under Reno and a couple of times when he's had to go back and provide the, you know, maybe the goal saving challenge of someone his level of tactical grace in that scenario is quite questionable. So I I think when we look at the legend of and has Arte Chelsea it is going to be a little bit of, you know, where where does he want to rank from an all time perspective, and you know, obviously, the rumors tend to circulate around does he end up going around Madrid? And is it offer going to populate at some point here? And you know, my gut feeling is that with the way that he tends to score and in the bunches he tends to do it. If they're looking to replace someone like Rinaldo that he he's not the right target for Real Madrid. I think he's able and capable of doing great work at Chelsea still. I think as long as we acquit inappropriate center forward there and let him get. Back to what he does best which is floating in from the outside coming in as a winger, providing the the assist the run the take on because right now he's getting marked by three centrebacks at a time. And he really just doesn't have the ability to do the kind of that take on experience when he's getting an attack fouled out of games. And you know, I I mean, I don't know about you guys, but I probably would be as fed up. And it's frustrating as him. If I went through a season where you know, because he you know, there there are some players. I'm not gonna name names who go to ground extremely easily. And we see plenty of great gifts about how quickly they're diving abilities. Are you know, could get them in Olympic competition its name name name name. Don, Don, John done. What are you? You know, you're not you're not a we haven't subpoenaed you before congress name name. You know? I mean, I really enjoyed the gift with Sallah and like the deer hunter thing where they're doing the shooting tactic. And he falls to the ground. Yeah. Yeah. The the hurricane where he looked like he was Luigi jumping off the on. Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy Vardi is well can go to grown as we've seen in the last few weeks, quite a different way. He likes to go go gadget long leg into a defender. And and then fall over. Yeah. I mean, so I think that has artists frustrating because he is capable of brilliance. And oftentimes the the squad put around him to be successful. Is this a little below? I think it reminds me and I'm a patriots fan of group in the northeast. So I mean, you can hate me for that as well being a Chelsea fan and a patriots fan law success is wonderful. But in that capacity, you know, there have been times where Tom Brady hasn't been surrounded by the best. And he so somehow figures out a way to to win a game or win a match, and but they're also. Times where it is absolutely frustrating as as a fan to watch a mediocre amount of players being put around them to be successful. And I think that's where at least my feeling is friend. His art is that he is capable of delivering in a higher level. He doesn't always have the best ability of sustaining it because he's also tending to carry the majority of the results for the teams you take Eddin hazard out of this Chelsea side this season. We would be struggling we would still be in the top ten, but it would definitely be a struggle. Don, it's been a pretty awful season off the field for fines Chelsea funds tour would several high-profile racial incidents prompt in the chairman to release a seven hundred word statement vowing not to rest until we have a limited all forms of discrimination from our club are there times as a Chelsea fan or you just question your decision to commit to the club considering the element. It's still has in its fondest. I I would I would say no, I so I will say that. I went. To my first away matches at Chelsea fan. Just a few weeks ago. It was the match a Crystal Palace. And the, you know, why word which is, you know, derogatory form of slander against Jewish individuals was used at that match. And it's pretty sobering. When you come to think of the fact that, you know, we it's not something I've experienced at other sporting events, you know, within the the US, and it was a shocking to hear. And I think that's why you know ourselves on the podcast, and then a bunch of other Chelsea supporters groups like Chelsea in America, other Chelsea podcast Chelsea supporters trust, which is a group of, you know, family coalition banded together. For what we call Chelsea together, which is a group that is solely focused on the removal of racial, gender, sexual orientation, religion age or disability discrimination. And you know, it's been great to see the club, actually. Tweeted out about it research. Sorry, talked about it in the press conference leading up to arsenal about how there's ninety nine percent of Chelsea fans are really great. And there's a absolutely ridiculously vocal one percent minority that enjoy saying and thinking that they can say anything if these games without any repercussions. And the repercussions are not just going to be for individuals who are going to, you know, go to jail in the UK for hate speech. But it's it affects the global entity of the club. And so if they wanna see better football, you know, they should just be a better person because of that. Because ultimately, you know, what sponsor is gonna wanna go near a club where there are supporters who are being questioned for you levels of racial or religious intolerance. That's completely unacceptable. It is absolutely abhorrent. And I think the the best thing that fans and supporters can do is continue to rise up and say that we're absolutely sick of it. It's disgusting to us. And if you hear it. It obviously it can be tough in the moment to confront it. But there are things like the kick it out the club. Obviously would solicit that information understand seat number and location. And you know, what I mean, it's not about narking other people. It's about what type of environment. Do you wanna create for others to enjoy this match? And it's not about saying don't sing, you know, certain songs don't have a little bit of a laugh. It's about saying that there are certain things that society has accepted that are not worthy of being fun of or laughing at and we just need to kind of Kerr tale that in, you know, by all means sing about how you know Harry flops, but don't don't sing about, you know, the the other connotations that have very negative piece to it. Unless one for me, obviously, a lot of the talk with Chelsea this year has been kind of the struggles upfront whether it be Murata or Jerudong or playing hazard in a false nine Gonzalo Ige, Wayne, obviously has been linked to Chelsea. Is there a belief that he's? Enough to change their current trajectory. I think any type of center forward that can come in and allow an his art to get back to doing what he was doing the first half of the season is going to be exceptional. And I think he struggled Milan to even so much. So as getting into an incident of tackling his manager of fortunately, which may have been unintentional, but was quite funny to witness. I think that if it is a six month loan with an option to buy there's not a better type of solution, especially as we look to move on from rata find out, obviously, we're gonna need to replace drew at some point here too. So there are a lot of talented young strikers out there team Warner is going to be out of contract soon. Look Joe Vic if you wanted to get kinda frisky get in there, and you know, pay Benfica and pay Frankfurt to get him out of his contract that would be another option. So I mean, the the club is gonna have to figure out what they wanna do for the short term, which I think is going to be Wayne and then. What's the long term solution? And if that's equally and becomes then a number two to a new, you know, I play striker. Maybe Mario Cardi who looks on settled at Inter Milan. It is going to be the area the squad to invest in heavily. And that's where the promotion of young talent like a Callum Hudson. Doi a Ruben Loftus cheek maybe a Reese James into a right back position. We'll give Chelsea the ability to not have to spend heavily on squad positions and to kind of allow some of the depth to Bill from within. And then can go splash the cash on the one or two marquee signings. That are gonna make a difference. Like we did with a this past window. We'll good stuff, man. The podcast is the London is blue podcasts for all all of our Chelsea listeners out there who've been looking for a podcast give it a shot down. Also writes for we ain't got no history is not done. That is correct. Yeah. To to great places to find Chelsea information. One is boop podcast, and we're gonna history. Thanks, good stuff. Man. Take care. Bye. Thanks the Dan door. Nice guy. Yeah. You talk. You did a deep dive there, you actually you did the work, and you and you were listening to London is blue pies into two episodes. Nice. She's toughest what this. Why because you despise the team. No. I mean, you're never going to as a Liverpool fan willfully look out Chelsea podcast to listen to. But those guys do a good job. And they're they're nice fellas. Yeah. All of our Chelsea supporters out there who listen to this podcast, we suggest you check out that one but keep listening to this. Well, there's room for many is. Oh, I forgotten. They will know us by the trail of dead. Oh, lots of news and notes actually to talk about before we get out to two different things. Need that in for we get out to different? Yeah. That's the thing. People. Do they do different things after they leave wherever they were Tim, how're JJ an American legend one of the great goalkeepers in the history of the country. Pre retirement announcement do you like that? Yeah. That's fine. Yeah. I got no problem with it. I thought he had retired when he went to Colorado. What does that it some kind of joke? That'd be bad. I'm sucking today. They were bad. I'm sorry for him. You only really got wound. Good seasonal to them. The first one was pretty decent. Remember the got to the playoffs. Yeah. But yeah. Last year they were bottom. I believe. But that's not even really what this is about. You are right to ask though. If if people what people think of like the before the year retirement question, look, maybe you could look at it and say that there's some ego involved when a guy does do. Other. But I do think I do think that like Tim Howard is probably aware of how fans feel about him. He's beloved by American soccer fan. So I do think that it is kind of like tipping the fans off a little bit to say, look, you know, if you do wanna see me play again, this is your last chance, and I do think there's a lot of American fans that appreciate look he's being a fantastic goalkeeper for for his country. Very very good club goalkeeper in England. And if he wants to give himself a bit of a sendoff, that's what's going to happen. He said the time for sentiment is laser in the tweets. Yeah. He's that work. I'm greatly looking forward to kicking off twenty nineteen seasons. It will be my last in all caps. The replenish of time for sentiment later for now. I'm going to enjoy every minute. And as I've always done compete hard and help lead the Rapids with the sole purpose of winning and he has done his fair share of winning one an FA Cup and League Cup with United won two. Gold cups with the US. He's the winningest goalkeeper in. US men's national team history starting goalkeeper in three World Cups. And of course, JJ holds the record for the most saves in a World Cup match when he had sixteen saves against Belgium, which you in David Preece love to mock. Which is we don't my frankly, it's hurtful, I don't understand the vitriol also three hundred ninety nine EPL appearances seventh most all-time by goalkeeper. No, you very careering than there's no question scored a goal to as we almost now prophetically played last week. Like for no reason, we knew if you feel like we felt it in our bones. I I'm kind of curious now. And because this announcement only really just came down. I haven't had a chance to dive into it. But I would be curious to kinda like in my mind and even statistically stack him up with FreeTel and Keller. I like those three they're in the same era. They've all had tremendous careers. They were all successful in Europe. Like, yeah. I do wonder who people would say is gold silver bronze in that telephone? Yeah. I think I think probably and they're the two recent ones to retired into announce their tyrant. I would say Friedel Howard Howard, however, free to compete in for number one in my view. I think so too. The fact that Howard was the American keeper at three World Cups. I think has got a tiebreaker value for me. Yeah. I know Friedel was other-worldly for US to think Fritos the best part of Fritos career, which often happens to keep your stayed calm later than Howard's a little bit later than Howard's. Yeah. Could those those days with Blackburn were were his best is? Yeah. Another American player JJ Josie outdoor is he entering his final season with Toronto FC. Now, I might not have thought that. But here's a quote from him from the max and her podcast reset. It's been a terrific time. But at the end of the day, it's a business. He goes on to say when I say, it's bittersweet it's because I've spent four years there. I kind of have roots put down there, my family enjoys it. It's bittersweet in the sense that you have to leave that and go to something new. But that's the business was that's that sounds fairly certain the next, quote, I plucked from the Maxon her podcast was I'm excited for what's to come. And I've given everything to Toronto FC, I think it was mission complete in terms of going there and winning which we set out to do. So I look forward to the next challenge. I'm not going to pose. There's no hard feelings dot seems like he wants out not just that there's going to be a parenting, but that he'd like to go somewhere else on Twitter. Eighty nine a wouldn't blame him if he was heading wear next. I don't know what are you implying return trip to Europe? I mean, if he's going to go he needs to go. No, I don't think that will be the case though. But somewhere else, I think he might wanna go somewhere else line about him mission complete. Yeah. I now. Yeah, they wanna title. He was due aurea seasonally. Yeah. But I do wonder coming off the season that Toronto are coming off of putting that quote in front of a fan right now. I don't know. Maybe maybe they would agree with that. It just felt like this season was just such a disappointment. I don't know if maybe Toronto FC fans expected a a little bit more prolonged. More of a prolonged stay at the top of the league, the whole and that when Alexi Lalas was talking about dynasties, and and the like, but he wasn't alone. No. There was a lot of people think people thought that they could go on and win a cop Champions League or they could go on and repeat in MLS. And for the way that it went. I don't know. Look, ultimately, he's right. It was mission complete Toronto FC were a disaster of club for years. And then this renaissance they got to a final they went on and one at the next year. They said a points record at the time. So yes, I don't mean to to like parse through his words and pluck out my own meaning he's right. He did what what they set out to do. But I don't know. I feel like Toronto. Could if he wanted to stay there long term, and they could keep the score together. Like, they could go on and continue being great club a lifestyle. Change is William maybe warm weather, something like that. Yeah. JJ? You know, we got we got one of these. Well, he really does screen that doesn't. This sounds like a London detective just broke a case this land, far, Jared, watts is focused more on the Lampard side of things, isn't it JJ? Frank. Assigned Ashley Cole while his body who was actually few years younger than Frank at thirty as for county. He will join the championship team. He's already met up with them. He said it will be the last. He did an interview early on. He said it'll be the last time. I will be calling him Frank. I will be calling him gaffer from now on. Yeah. I don't know what I saw it. It felt weird for a couple of reasons one. He's he's just at an age where I just like wouldn't have thought that this is that he'd be really on anyone's radar he willingly anymore. He will be the oldest player. Should he play which we expect? He will. He will be the oldest player to feature in the championship this season. It was it was particularly weird for me. Because do you remember what he was saying about MLS before he went there that it was off that it's just like this is a retirement community, but he came to any played at a high level. Even last year. I thought he was still very good for the galaxy. He took it. He took it seriously. And for whatever that was worth it left. Some kind of impression whether that beyond Lampert or somebody at Darby who thought you know, what he still good enough. Like, I can watch what he's doing an MLS. And I can I can see him doing a job here in the championship. I think he was really good going forward for the galaxy defensively. I don't think he he got any better because he doesn't have that recovery speed anymore. So it's going to be interesting. Plus, it's not like he when he announced he was finishing with the galaxy that he he took up a spot. Maybe he wanted some rest, but there was quite a few months before this happened. So you wonder how fit he is. Derby of had Andrea wisdom twenty-five Scott Malone play at left back. So it'd be interesting to see of coal can can kind of usurp them in an commanded starting place. Yeah. And then what other signing that was very interesting to me was seeing Barcelona signed Kevin prince, boating. Wow. Just from pseudo. Yeah. Out of nowhere did not see a common, but I didn't really see them signing our tour of a dial in that happened that just an odd odd kind of signing. Just like we said move. We didn't say last week. I don't think we've got a chance to comment on it. But Ryan Babel to full him seemed weird to me. Very. Yeah. I maybe there are status Titians who say this guy can come in. He still capable of a thirty one years of age of giving something to this Barcelona site, but it just seems like a Soden jump upwards, you know, a really rapid jump. It's like, look he's he's played at high level. No has I know, but it's still we don't look at Barcelona that way, maybe we have to start thinking of them as a different club. No since the the kind of messiah guys have been broken up. Maybe. And then I even saw today another like if we're talking about unusual signings. Did you see who Middlesbrough signed? Yes. John Lovie mckell again. A highly rated player, but a weird kind of trajectory, but again dot used I feel like that was more common thing years ago. Remember when Nicolas Anelka signed for Chelsea from Bolton. Right. Those kind of you know, you always thinking your mind, if you drop below a certain level club. You're not getting back to the tile Bolton we're still in the premier line. No. But it was a circuitous route to get there. Don't forget. I mean, we went from LeicesteR Manchester City like that stuff's no. But that was an upward trajectory that was the hive Leicester City, Manchester City, right nNcholas nasca was our snow rail Madrid. And then this kind of odyssey before he found his way to Chelsea in the music. That's all I'm saying, oh, I've got one more note from France from FC Nantou of who are obviously going through the terrible issues. We talked about earlier in the pod valeted Halley Hudson, which the manager. This was tweeted out his quote was tweeted out. From the non count about Matt Meazza? This was quite something. This translation, the black male. I was talking about yesterday was about not Meazza. He showed me that he had a sore back after exams. However, there was no problem. He just wanted to leave the club this morning might me as it was in England in Chelsea he didn't warn anyone these things bother me. But it has to be done with even if it disappointed me a lot so Meazza who was hardly played since October looking to force his way out before the club to to as we talked about dirty laundry in public. Yeah. I don't that's just not it doesn't reflect well on either the club are met me as good to be honest. No, maybe more so miata. Yeah. I don't know. That's unfortunate because things were like things were really going. Well for him. He was playing well in the VC, and he was you know, back in the US men's national team. We'd thought just a good move because he definitely start. Yeah. But he went away for those friendlies in October with the US any pretty much hasn't kicked a ball with nonsense. Yeah. Let's see before we get out. We do have a really quick what to watch for because the second leg. Of that takes place on Wednesday and Thursday Wednesday to forty five Burton Albion and Manchester City, I guess insert whatever corny joke here about a nine nil deficit, overcoming. No, everything at stake the drama of the Cup so on and so forth and then Thursday to forty five Chelsea and Spurs goes back to Stanford bridge with Tottenham holding that one nil aggregate lead, we think they'll have Lucas more back. That's not definite. God do they need it with Kane deli. We went through all that earlier should be very interesting. Chelsea maybe felt a little bit hard done to have lost that first leg. I still think that everything was legit. And that the call and the var- all work the way that it was supposed to, but it was very close if Murchio sorry, I guess we'll find out about this Chelsea team. Because now they're thrown right into the fire in a big match in the semi final against a rival. If saris words got through to them, then I would expect Chelsea to go out. And and. Beat Tottenham side that are a little bit wounded right now, if they did not Spurs go through it should be very interesting. I would say to anybody who's Chelsea fan to read gab Marcatti on Chelsea Kante and Georgina that whole positional thing on sorry on ESPN NFC. It's really good. Yeah. And then COPA. Del Rey quarterfinals first legs. A few of the marquee ones. Wednesday three thirty. This is a great quarterfinal matchup with the way things have been going this season severe and Barcelona although severe loss of the weekend to Real Madrid. That is still really tasty toy. Yeah. Thursday at one thirty Espanol and rail Matisse and that same day at three thirty rail Madrid and Girona we will be back on Thursday to recap the some of those matches and to look ahead to an FA Cup weekend. And do a rap battle because it's been demand. I wanted to talk to you about boy. Well, no, I'm not dodging it. But I do think that we need to reformat it. How do you mean? We'll because like a rat bad. Title is typically exactly that you. And I kind of like have some go back and forth. Some or some kind of topic that we'll battle over rather than just like, hey, I'm gonna wrap to you. Now about Alexi Lalas makes sense. So I think what I was thinking you can if you want to veto it. That's fine. I was thinking in the build up to the next caught offside Cup. We rap battle about that. All right. Okay. You prefer that. Because then I can we can actually take shots at one another. What am I going to say to you? What do you? What is it that your topic? Was that you picked. I was Brennan you pick Brendan Ron for me. And I was struggling to get tremendous car just like Lin Manuel Miranda rapping about Hamilton. You know, like, it's not really a battle with anyone. He's just like, well, I was going to say that the listeners could vote for whoever's was best. Well, they could still do that. But I think we need to have something that we can like trash talk each other over. All right. Okay. Okay. With that. Yeah. That's fine. Wow. Just going to be a real good go straight at your sensitivities. The fact that you, you know in therapy, all those I'm not, but I have no problem with people that are no, neither do I. But I'll just I will pick away at your insecurities. Well, there are many to choose from. Well, hey, this I enjoyed this. Our thanks to Dan dormer from the London. His blue podcast as we went in the. Club with him. We will be back on Thursday. Hey, so you I say take a letter from box, ticker listening to cod off side soccer podcast.

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Mourinho Moans About Red

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Mourinho Moans About Red

"Great News there's a quick way you can save money switch to Geico Geico could help you get great coverage at a great price and it only takes fifteen minutes to see if you could save fifteen percent or more more on car insurance go to GEICO DOT com today and see how much you could save. Welcome image of the show on Adrian. Healey coming up later on that friendly team at the decade provided by one of these gentlemen on the show today a hundred Marino. Shankar the two Frenchmen Gab. Not Merely and frank with a guy that team in the decade all will be revealed we will start brought in the premier league though the reaction to the Dhabi defeat yesterday for Spurs against Chelsea and the reaction to the red card handed out to saw nine not spurs set. They feel this today. It's got the spach reaction I knew for sure Woah. He's having guns in the hospital on broken ribs because it was really a violent of either situation in in in some countries like mine for example with our cultures we used to say clever player but in this country and one of the reasons why I fell in love this country in two thousand and four is because we don't call them clever. Call them other things that I refuse to tickle card. I don't know how much you're supposed to make. Our son is a great player and a number from the outside. Looks like a great person person but sometimes in full you have instinctive moments that happen ever reflex. Maybe sometimes in a game haven't really tough or it's going against you a little bit. I and I think it was a moment I would not have any words. Set of our Tony Rudy. Get that without Taylor. That was in the game on real the all time five meters from the situation. Mr Taylor decided no so was refereeing. The game. Several call sees England. She's a primarily uses the the best competition in the world with characteristics at the change. Them we are killing the best league in in in the world. So clear divergence of opinion. Franken I'll go first to Josie Marina and Spurs have any case. Here another tall. I think it makes no sense. We can see in the in the images. She's that son is upset. LOUISI- mind tries to hit with a kick. It doesn't matter whether weather injured as rookery or not. It's a real and clear violence and deserve the red card. And that's it and and I think again makes sense because I'm sure we can find when ruin. You was a coach of India. Milan Chelsea Marie dimensions dignity. A player pretending that he was almost dying after. Kick like that so it doesn't make any sense again to talk about that. You should enough talking. About the way tactically. He lost the game and now lump bought a and played better tactically than him I know you didn't get a chance to weigh in on this today at rudy made the most of it. I'm sure he wouldn't disagree. But one hundred per cent Red Foley by back-off Ninety eight not no not at all one hundred percent of the red card. What I'm sorry? What does putting your one area same pale into feeling enor- for it to be a red card? There was intent there was an action. By whom means on that was clearly punishable and the only question that I have is. Why did it take so long? And how come they will see that on the field himself. WE'RE NOT GONNA get into the situation. which in itself? It's different conversation but this is by definition their resurgence. Oh yes of something that we have seen time and time again. We just him winning you in any clubs that he's been a part of and that is Captain Deflect Dome is backed because now now we're talking about this singular incident this individual incident that it becomes the whole story line rather than talk about the fact that on on the Field Chelsea was much better than spurs that tactically Chelsea was much better than just say Marino's spurs that is is a conversation But of course winning doesn't want any piece of that and he is the best at deflecting somewhere else to. We'll come back to marinas briefly. Why didn't Antony Taylor? CNN hitching was only find the odds a referee mistake. Let's remember this same. Anthony Taylor who somehow thought Marcus. Alonzo Mall Gazzaniga Gazzaniga again. That was a referee. Mistake corrected by Var. Ho you see. I mean he's GonNa Review this out the deal. I I can't answer for Paul. He missed either of those two calls right but saying the referee we call it one way or the first time of asking with some is in no means defense especially when you take this into consideration in the exact same game and to that point. Let let's make no mistake bolted and this were Daego cost of keeping the Chelsea theme and this Rodeo cost doing this on a spinach player. It wouldn't it'd be whether this is a red card or not. We'd be discussing. How many games should it be bad? Is it a three or four game ban. This has been a red cod for a very long sometime. I am I thought beyond to beat Julian Alley already touched upon it. Is this the old Merino back with a vengeance. Captain Deflector was allied. Likes goal in the chiefly sarcastic. Marini away you know broken ribs Crediting Antonio Conte rather than Frank Lampard. I thought we saw a little bit as well after the much to united defeat. Old Trafford where that one must have heard marine your law going back towards route further and losing thing that game time. where he's Tim killing more informed than than than united but this one we have heard even more and when Jersey Renews Hurts? This is what he does. He doesn't want to admit admit defeat or failure the fact that the team was better than he that the manager out coach team out smarty which is exactly what happened with Lampard's who played a blinder winder against marina who's committed lethargic on the line for most of the game so because he's hurt this is what he does. This is what he does like Alice. So it's put on. This is cut in deflector for you. This is what he does and and these won hers as well because as you know the stars never heard. He's never lost before before Sunday. Sunday home match against one of his former clubs. Well it happened on Sunday and there was nowhere to after the game. He would try to go on there. It was always going to deflect to something else. The Red card defined defined exactly the right way shack are mentioned reading comments about Antonio Conte perhaps some of the credit. This was the starting eleven eleven inting that they were so used to playing this system. The full fish Frank Lampard out cause US Marino. I'm not Jewish but to come up and say what he did albeit hop back to that formation at the two new county on ah continues to such good effect I thought Frank Lombardo and said that question perfectly just because that was for mission. That conti used doesn't mean in that it's going to work every single time you those players alternate means if it did did probably still be in that job but Frank Lampard has a job to do and tens of what he does with Katrina ground. What he says to them indigestion room to get them to be this good and to just somehow discount that as being a leave over from Antonio Conte's time I find disingenuous and quite honestly distasteful? Frank Lampard give them the job that he's done deserved saved a whole lot more a lot more disingenuous. When you think about the fact they just send me? Your himself was critical of the way that Antonio Dave playing with Chelsea when he was a Chelsea as you say captain deflected frank is is. This is the happy one thing of the past pretty quickly. I don't know you know we can be surprised if he starts winning again. You know but you know people are the way they they are. They don't change. I think you can hide these east temper and pretend to be happy but he likes to be sarcastic alikes to people. That's the way he is and they will go back to that because it's it's the kind of defense in France. I don't know if you say that the stage by indeed the best defense is to attack is what we say when you are you know in the corner. I don't know how to save your safe. You attack you you launch sarcasm. Slide that you can be. You can pretend that you are saved. But ECON- hide the fact that get lost the game against Franklin pod that he doesn't know how to explain it does he needs to to find back the way we can do the best to to win again. So a rough day for Spurs a rough day for Manchester United as well even rougher Uh Drop it cuts Between the hands of your forehead. Enter your own EH website. Pointing at LASSIE's no premier league player has made more errors leading to goal. Let's just picking on Goldens Davick on one never gone. Make mistakes go lease on. This goalkeeper would have to to be a golden but wouldn't they meanwhile Manchester United's performance. JEKYLL and Hyde when you look at it against the big six at wins against city and Spurs against any team outside of the big six though very very different Julie Lol. What's going on and let the Oscar? This richie is still out there on. Gardening leave whatever. You WANNA call it waiting for employment. Why isn't he mentioned g ninety minutes? The question is the question that love monster united finds out asking themselves to for now were than the Glazer family clearly. Still have some faith in. You know they're gonNa go there working together on the January transfer window so it shows you that social security is at least gonNA be there in the turn of the New Year and I I believe Steve and I was told that he would finish the season anywhere. Whatever happens but that doesn't hide from the fact that he hasn't been good enough? He's been jog for year. Now I think yesterday on Sunday was was the one year anniversary and he's just no good enough. Yes there's those goods AH games and performances against the top clubs and we've seen that decision especially this incredible starts as well that when united have had more than fifty percent of the board in those premier league matches well divinely one wants which shows you every time they have the ball and they can't play their usual usual planet game which is heating teams on the counter because they have so much of the born. They don't know how to win games. They can't win gaines creative enough. They don't have another plan. B or all plants to find a way of beating teams so he works when they leave the board to the other team which is usually the better side the bigger sides and we saw that against Liverpool Chelsea. Oh off Osorno. Spurs or monsters the city in that instance. But when he's the other around that really struggled and the fact that Paul Pug Bob was missing for so long obviously. I didn't help that and we saw against Virginia the twenty five minutes. He played how beneficiary will be to that team because he was so good in twenty five minutes and so creative but yet it shows you as well the limitations of organized the sharing that job so frank if you were Edwards which is quite a thought if you were Edward who'd you would you be the Christmas great show on social the door. It's hard because as Jill said as you showed you know yet some some results we speak to big teams and it reminds me the national team of France where the become champion of the the world without having the ball more than fifty percents most of the time and mostly playing contract so is the modern football is another way to play football comparing to Guatemala. Wants to have like sixty or seventy percent of the position even more the position of the ball. I Dunno but it's It's hard also for our legal Socia- because of course Manchester United is one of the biggest slob in the world that people expect results but when see the personally only t visuals of each players who have the squad that the hob. I'm not sure they can pretend to be in a better ring that they all right now. I see players good players. I don't see exceptional players. I know that one of the talent that we have in the studio. Could they hear one of the best keeper other best goalkeeper of the decayed where he s. He had made many mistakes Capri to other other goalkeeper saw. So when you check by what he's talking about you know of course when you see the team that I played around nine thousand nine fine with the team in the squad being substitute because of the tendency of the D. individuals. You cannot compare the Manchester United that we watch try now with the one where we saw two decades ago even a decade ago. So he's hard for the fans. It's hard to get rid of one of the favorite of the fans. But you have to move on. I think because you need to go back to your to your best. And it's not GonNa but it's not also with the player that they have right now for sure a talking going on the latest edition of the gap and Gills podcasting Gabby wearing Philadelphia Eagles sweat. Show which you might appreciate it on the podcast itself Joel's with that story. FIND FESTIVE THE JERSEY. For Jill's. Your home is important. That's why gyco helps make it easy to save on Homeowner's insurance because home is more than just a place home home is where you curl up on the couch in a fetal position and cry cheesy movies even though you've seen them a thousand times and have all the lines memorized. You also also you with me and you. The GEICO Insurance Agency could help protect the tear filled comfort zone. You Call Home Call Geico and see how easy it is. The switch and save on Homeowner's insurance check out a story on our website Young US Conrad de la Fuente stollings boss Lana untold apparently wants to join Jurgen Klinsmann at the Lynn. I've Read Old Alabama on the NFC dot com nowhere near the the top of the Bundesliga standings. oppy Licey get leading the judge version which Glenn Beck and buying Munich get close behind talk of us. Plus Tyler. Robbins played his first game in nearly seven months for rb Leipzig over the weekend. This is what he had to say after the game when football is your job and you don't have avid every single day. You feel like you're missing something so now that I'm back out here playing joining the team enjoying my football again In a winning side as well. It's very exciting. My teammates zip helped me along the road and my friends my family. It's been an important journey useful experience for me to mature as a player But I'm excited to be back now. Everyone's very excited sided data in the top of the table. But not the favorites to win the Bundesliga. According to the oddsmakers by Munich still to get more free to one online versi dormant. And we're seeing the rank. Outsiders is is that fair is one of the tightest races in Europe. At at the moment. Yes it is yes. It is just given by Munich history in this competition. You knew how good they are how on they can finish in this league doc. It's hard to look past by Munich at the same time as much as Madison by Munich. My heart wants Leipziger Gladbach. Just because I feel it'd be it'd be good for Bali. Say lives they can they can. They can earn four points back. But what I would say is as bad as by Munich has been enabling back. They've thrown games away and games that they were winning office on their losing. And you don't expect this to happen with by Munich. As they closed season in the second half I think that by Munich. We'll be close to perfect where a slight is going to have a difficult time. Being close to perfect and by mimic eventually overtakes Leipzig. I know what you're saying about your heart. I don't care about your heart buying Munich Winston. I follow my heart every single time. And how's that working out for you. Julian and EH lights again by Munich but but there is this actually a four way race is a two team race is it is it by. Munich's Noah I think you can count. The dorm went as well or do this. Seven points behind live seek bass thing. They have a loved Thailand and whether it be father still after the winter break or not only well how long you last. After that they still potentially team capable of winning six seven egg in Roy. When they're on a good day they also capable of losing a lot of those matches but they can on a winning streak for sure so I don't I wouldn't count domain out? It would be harder for them for sure. But for me is between live Siegen and and Munich. You already look early February. When by Munich will host Leipzig and dot can only that can already be shoes? Turning point in that season whether Livesey can accentuate the lead over by Munich if stood for points at that time for example or the other Iran this going to be a huge game and let's imagine Leipzig Sign Hurling Harland for example from all besides book which is very very possible. I think that'd be even harder to buy Munich with unsee flake. Not got certain until the end of the season and I'm not sure that's the right core for them dust to coordinate. It'd be interesting to see how they cope after the winter break. And also with the the the two games against Chelsea and attempting to okay if signings Gills witted by. Pull this Josh resiliency from. He's been terrific. He's been great. Yeah the Scotch and Network of the club. He's very good and they went to get him in Holland Young Dutch bets for him to school in mid week last week I know so again at the weekend on his first each time we've changed the first player in the history sixty three years to actually to on his first two touches You know in two games in a row is pretty remarkable these eighteen of course if you rely on an eighteen year old can really improve. Does that shows as well your limit and he should be worrying ring. I guess but he did a great job to sort them out of the tough situation and winning those two games because they really need to but I think you would expecting making the new year that the the bigger names would shine again but for the for the time being is great and why he played ninety minutes with the reserve team when and the following day after his first before we get to use a big boxing day action for the championship for you bailable on Espn in close up. Flanker sharing your Chil- leads the united and Personal Vendettas. The twelve fifteen eastern stunt alongside Craig and Stevie have all done there at Premier League team of the decade. You can see that on our youtube channel as well as Frank Buffs reaction all those teams he was judge and jury selection. I'm executioner. We thought we thought it was only fair frank to unleash you wouldn't see the all right. What happened to this frank shopped for decades? I was so young Tokyo through your team in the decade. Yeah I'm not going to talk about the only individuals but I think it's it's a fantastic team that I see to say that I struggle between Torri Korea and Franklin Bod and also struggle between Assad and Wayne Rooney but I think I picked because maybe just because he he warned the blue shirts but it's fantastic players when Rooney hide off my friend and frank link-up though so but I i. I thought about the decayed. I didn't think of the past two years like some of the guys did and I saw time the team of the decade. Let let's start at the back. Yeah since you quit right. If you're going to be an all time player that they K- leftback you might WanNa be lifted you gonna be a left sided player quibbles because that does I merely suggesting that. Maybe that's a detail. Yeah the other one. James Milner J. himself were not put himself how come on Good Guy Army titles that he gets where he got when he was at money in the main city. Now you WanNa Chen prec- with Liverpool is a leader of the chip. I mean we all know that he does the job every time that he plays. John is on the field. I maybe doesn't WANNA put him because he put himself in because he's young bowl but everybody wants him there's there's also reason as to why he's humbled because he knows he's in on the field to our work do the work that the real truly talented player that name players. Yes you need him. You started out wait a minute wait a minute. You're saying that Liverpool wins. The Camden Camden Sleep. Because the James Milner come hot and frank come on because of a little bit of just not having anyway. You need US player I would. I would win. I wouldn't have wanted Walker without digits show. I wouldn't have won the worker without Christian Karembeu. I mean they'll do all the players. The soldier of the Shade Burr. You need them and you cannot think that you can only have talents. Yes but this is done easy to win. This is a team of the decade. Frank is the team okay so it's got again outstanding talent so he's got to be that beat sealed the Frank Lumbar type dinner. `rational players are there clubs guy who's a nice piece to have. I love me some James Miller. Heck I'll tell you I. I think we two WHO I was closer to being days Miller type as a player myself rather than a super authority us if I may if I may I think there is a a survey in England where I think the number one is guero and and I think you can check that out. Miller is number two. I think much all right J. J. doubt if we if we're making decisions based on surveys done in England inorder on individual team on the Dick Ace. Then we're in trouble because now we're taking the opinion of people out there and if that's that's what we're GonNa do and then we might as well what I did. I give my list to our were director. They're over there. That'd be on the cameras. Lear I know yeah maybe but he sent me back after that the survey Ah I checked and I assume in your second so I said out. That's not too bad now. You just killing him they. That's that no no. That's that's the reason you you know. What the producer did to you frank? He gave you courage. He gave you confidence in your choice choice. I think correct. Do they have to give you the Anchorage Vendor. He's just pounding right now because he doesn't give you the same a minor quibble frank from me with Yoga and clock fabulous manager. But does he. Is He really premier league manager of the decades. He hasn't it yet. It's hard to find the first. My first thought was four Charlottesville because I think you want to titled Before we are in for Manchester United so of course it could have been him but you know everybody a compare Guatemala and Klopp and of course I think did something for football. But I'm getting a little bored when I watch Manchester City because it goes slow. Sorry to say that it's effective but it's slow so but what. I see Liverpool Playing Pool Fan. I'm a blue so I watch Steve Pool and I enjoy because he goes vertically. And it's the way I see football. That's my type of football so of course it's hard to find. A coach will last ten ten years. It doesn't exist so it could have been so Mr Guada- for these results but I like club because club is doing something thing special for the football as well. Did you have your eye even better about my team again. It can be seen. We know it's content on Youtube. Channel Abraham issues always had the goal. Isn't that AH statue doesn't have a well. Someone decided to cut it off. in Malibu is brought a stake in rival club Hammarby quite a statement fans Quick to they have to tell you that months old is transfer window room assert can be found on our transfer website page matches. You'RE NOT GONNA get Holland and Chelsea to spend fifty billion Alan's line to buy Sanni read all about it on the website I jus. I transferred that looks to be very much much in the offering involves Edison Cavani. Now he's out of contract isn't the end of the end of the season next June with Athleti trying to get him early trying to get him January. How realistic is that? Do you think this is a very interesting one we we we rotate on the on the website the negotiation between companies agent who is also is his brother and and article Madrid and Degrassi Mooney who was really keen to sign him and strengthen the he's caught up with Kevin who's pitches talks ever with one hundred nine thousand six goals gene told us at the beginning that they were not. I'm GonNa let him go in January. That is needed for the second part of the season or doesn't play mercer so far this year because he cardi has been so good. And here's where playing together Frans. They felt that they still needed company. In the squad in case something happens or to to rest the other two in case of injury or suspension. Or why did goes. Omonia are trying to push for Kelly to come in in January which company I think would be happy to Reina's thinking looks more likely that this will happen in the summer when companies is free and can go wherever you want for free and that he would spend the rest of this in in Paris however the negotiations have started between the two clubs to see maybe me something could be done in January and not waiting for this thing that it will be to the detriment of PhD. Because I think they need money until the end of the season but flatly to Madrid. It makes sense to try to get him in general good stuff. Gills of more of the same tacoma on tomorrow's show. You can join US got with extra time. Thanks for your questions as always it's always a pleasure to reebok twitter. Handle my and his view. Steve Nicol Shepherd's Pie Craig's tea. And you WANNA make today. Though I question coming from his lops it helps you better explain. That is before we dive into the big shock sandwich. Yes they can make a trip. No big actually is called the bread that comes by now now. Do you want to go into the conversation and explain to people. How is it that you catch the shark like Craig Burley What's interesting? The Big Shark Swims off. Yeah they handed we. That is a very tough fisherman. airily ironically frank. His love shock but he wants to know about mentioned. Shelly are they better off. Selling Colpon and buying Christian Erickson do ooh I duNno. I think it's something you cannot answer to. Because I think that the don't play the same way don't play even the same position for me and And he's only only one player. Who makes a difference when Newell Michigan? Ronaldo which is not the case we all respect for Pug by and Ericsson Both fantastic players but really really. I don't think it makes it's a difference. I think he will. It will more volmer nine hundred. Dan Erickson Coming I. I'm a front I better. I think two two totally different players visible. I think it makes the most sense for them to play together. I'd I'd have them both in my team but to the question average soon given the fact that he's going to contract unless you get for free and it'll be up to their. He won't get many cheap book on right now. Can you dig that child's many I. I told him I love Paul Palmer but this is his value value. Going up or down business decision for you. That's what I was GonNa say if you cut this question off after where it says you. Don't add a binary option. There is united. Better off selling pope. What do you think that having the question is my follow up question? How did you just answer a question with a question? That's very deflect promotional conventional because again. I'd have pulled team all the everybody. If you're saying that his value may be going now now the footballer in me says keep him but the business on you newly yes says a longtime depends into which pattern weary. What are you wearing today? She ever wanted you want took the shot Baker whatever even want to go and then just it seems like it's not a step in the right direction. I think he's GonNa be alright. Money's not interesting. The next question is actually for Jules Maybe we'll let you guys hold on Tuesday phone if we can do the different if we can just drop in different twice. He's talked on point. I think he's trying to sell books. Earn extra time just trying to sell his house right now than some wrong abrupt exit one of you be good enough to fill individuals while he's otherwise engaged ozil flourish under the management of his former teammates Mikhailova Donald trump level. I think Missiles Hill has been done at the top level for a long time. What we we have seen from him over the last couple of years but certainly this season is that even when he's out on the field and he's had an opportunity to play? He doesn't impact the game. He doesn't Dawson changed the game in fact when he impacts the game and he changes the game. It's not in a positive way. It's usually it usually has to do with the fact that he's no longer completing leading the passes that he used to. He doesn't really change the game in the final third. He's not gonNA defend and then there's an attitude about him that that body language that it's very difficult to get past if you're also that's how I think he's timing wasn't to be good again. You have to build the team around methodism on unless you're on as well. We see for Manchester United Shooting in China from Arsenal and heat. Transfer market doesn't suggest that they're going to do that nor do you think that him moving to a big club. They will be building a team. And anybody's going to disrupt Gordon County business. Ability Murrow measures makes no sense. We got another one for Joel dropping. Let's so you have negotiated by by by by negotiation witness. Aw He won't Back Down Frank. Maybe you'll do the on this time Kevin growing up or Frankie the young as an ideal midfielder ru rule while while he's sue who choose between caviar and for Gras and Christmas time. It's it's a tough tough question. Really really how would go for the brain because he deserves. He gives lots of assists every time he gets the ball maybe because you have more experience than the very shocked I am shocked that Frank has not come on James Miller. I tell you what he's milner. If if if we're talking about Kellyanne fully growls shock Bateman lizzy big. Good so you need to. You need some bread yes. Let's let's not forget that reminding people that milner is in francs team of the decade. Not a bad tooth visual contact jams. Melinda was Mrs Milnes Mrs Milner when putting together gather the team and everything but narrowly approved. Thank you Russell. uh-huh for Shankar. Have you ever attempted old given up a peninsula new. I've not about the only time Dwight Yorke's died in training and games on replaying but I think he's still villa tape and said if you got penalty refer longtime do. Don't just do right like he was. I'm pretty sure but I was at Newcastle. They've gotTA property. He went to my right. A- saved it the drinks on on him that night but I was like you. Just say something about that and I say something about that I. I shot many many penalties in my career. Like fifty or something like that. I never wanted to Panca or chip the goalkeeper. I think you have to respect your teammates and goalkeeper. The only thing you have to do to score is not to tease anybody the or to play with your teammates. You know who doesn't take minkah. WHO's Allie Jessie? In a topping on Josie game. It was as I'm back. Did you. The House inside the House go great. Did the Guy Kooning. That's so amazing. Can you stand up a little bit first because we want to know. Who's on your sweater? We can see Mary going up a little bit off. Aw the king what was trying to find one with our home arena on it Clearly the team that he played for the Franck mob one in blue. But that's the only one I could find. Oh I bought it. I bought it go by the way not only be frank by it but then in the back said I've taken fifty penalty. Ah scored forty nine hundred right. You did not something like that chose. This was actually address. The Frank Sigi Mr to that review which of these French players has been the biggest flop so far Tim Bella Pepe or Lamar. Oh that's Michael question festive question. Is it festive. Yeah I mean Nikola pay really the one season where the expectations was. I affiliate for him because the context not easy when he arrived And since the start of this season really and I think the Chinese debt clearly we saw in the season yes they pay the money for him maybe too much But that's between the two clubs and I think there was a lot of pressure on maybe to too much for someone who'd never played outside of Franz before. I think he will come goods. But so far you have to say that he hasn't really been seasonal foes Mandela. The injuries have been biggest failure really. Stop not nothing to do with these talents. It's all the way him playing but the way he lives. His life is a full obviously professional football practically. There's a problem in that those injuries and follow him out from the beginning. I think and I remember. We actually broke the news on on. ESPN FC when you move from echo to Atletico Madrid. I think he was room of club from the beginning. I mean there's a love good thing that could have to him and maybe he did. They was clearly of lemon is playing in the on. The SIMONIS is playing. I don't think He was the right much so I'm paying for right now. I think Lima was was the room. Move and then ballet the injuries and the way life is a professional laying down making up for lost time forces instead of picking one Christmas down there. You wear Frank Yes I feel very embarrassed because I think in August or September I think I said to everybody on. ESPN AFC PIPPI will be a fantastic surprise to anybody. Yup Yeah well I feel sorry for him and few sorry for my for myself. Surprise the final question of any. The boys ever cut down their own Christmas tree and if Stevie was doing what he claims foster to use an axe. Ah Shoveling the goal by the soul. There's no chance he's accident all day. Low The children away shortland. Chris it for me is new out. Never cut one down. That is one hundred percent new. No no chance why. Why would you win? Would you know there's nothing about me it's close to Clark griswold. This no no no Joe's Franken free chopping in your nothing tossed nuts a chance. I like I like the idea but only the idea. That's what the finish. Thank you lost holding on. No trump. No no no I'm not. I'm not Canadian. So no revelation relationship with what were you don't you don't I guess some people get some sort of mythical pleasure out of it but I wonder why I can chop it down with a seven iron away. I need like a fallen tree. Yes affair for full do very nicely. We back pain or official. Release like uh-huh small shrubbery will do. We will see on the next edition of F C thanks.

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City Tightens Title Race

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City Tightens Title Race

"Welcome in solicitation, ESPN AFC on Dan Thomas joined by Craig Burley and Paul mariner and from outside the anti that long. Auburn is there after witnessing Manchester City's cities two one victory over Liverpool so much to discuss from this game. But let's look at the big talking point the GATT. Now at the top of the table is now just four points livable lead city Spurs now six adrift the top. Let's start with a match show Craig overall two one it was an intense. Oh that wasn't it. Yeah. That's that's what you were saying we're watching the game some tense. I thought it was a good game. I think it was a great game technically from the two sides. I think both can can actually play possum. But I can contorted understand why. Because of the pressure on both sides, really. There's no real pressure on them. Because of the the wars that could could really nail in the coffin. But I think when you look I think just edged that for me. And when you look at the clock who hard to make the change false. Then I think that tells the story about how the game was going. And the fact that he's been playing weight in recent weeks with Mosala through the metal animal central and for minot behind them. And you know, she homeland security into the team and each as not today he puts out black, and he's is regular possession and the right and for the medal. And so that was the fos can flinch from him and then with domination during the fos half dead really helped Alexandra not right hand sake or style wasn't getting back in when autumn across and the Royston at times say then I thought for the most part were dominant, of course, level changed and through a few things at the end for me. Edged always had a Cup funnel feel this game. And it's the only pressure you could just fail them both. Yeah. To Craig's point the pressure on both ball sets of plays was. You know to say it was intense obsolete an understatement because city out to win very, but they as you said done if turned over today, we'll been ten point. Yeah. And people can talk about on the title is over isn't over. It was over. I think what was interested in brave to a certain degree. It was the way Guatemala set aside. I was a little surprised at the four didn't really company would would play didn't think he would be able to live with with front three. So that was an interesting as a game progress thought I did belong to monk much city as Craig says again when when club changes stuff to fifty odd minutes when he changes system. This started to really play some good stuff unlivable, you could see that livable will come in back into this. This more familiar way of playing and they started to dominate again. And it was quite remarkable to giants primarily playing such a level. What whether you say it was a fantastic game to what it was. It was it was a fascinating because of all the intricacies of what's going on. You know, I'm showed television gets to not thought it was real visiting. The I I've sent off. But I tell you what you mentioned it company and talk to the left by possession was a challenge. I. Laporte going over. There was a surprise. I don't think he's been playing great but woke up again was a coal that for the Neil Denia was absolutely huge crowd. Again, wanna play when it comes to replace him. That's going to be tricky three, by the way, that's going to be tricky actually tough at Selva. He's normally saying every week. He was the period of the players and not the Selva was absolutely terrific. So some big performances from some key players, and you have to say while the pass up till born Marco with us mom hunting for source. I know but the intensity of this game was powerful just through the television. What was it like actually in the stadium? Yeah. I mean, I thought the first half was a little bit edgy. I thought more. Lepore cage than usual. But there was a real sense of it being a game that certainly. The element of anxiety. Most the whole funds tonight until they scored the goal and goal. It was finished was just an incredible goal. It was one of those goals that are the best place in the world can finish. It was just a a people on social media criticize the goalkeeper no chance it was just are into the near corner. So it really felt when those seismic clashes that you know, that that resolve define a season Johnstone's clearance could define if they win the league. So. Yeah. Everything for me, and it was a real kind of a real absorbing game. Where two real heavyweights when we've seen these games the password once racist clear what the ball teams towards the end could gone out of it talking about wear. Let's start with owning. For a strike is perspective. How skill is involved. Incredible modes of skill and unto supportive firstly. He went and don't tried to draw the penalty, then as the balls cleared, oats engaged himself and one of the greatest things about being a strike. If you hunt in a run that near post, and I say all the time the nipples room is the best rolling football. Because you take the gold key defense with it didn't actually make run, but he stayed engaged and the concentration level on that. I just said is first ridiculous. The option that he had was to go roof. That's all he could do an execute. Yeah. It was it was perfection. It was a quality performance from internet because sometimes he plays not quite full-throttle for me. Guerra a love guero. I'm gonna win the golden boot this year. It was a sensational striker but tonight the bit between his teeth, and you could see was making was he was aggressive with. The balloon aggressive with using defendant for the team so company said in the interview afterwards, the passion that the city played with tonight, and so did livable don't ever wrong. It was just just. Nabl them to get this really hard earned victory. I thought with terrific, but I thought city and anybody who thinks Alison shoulda saved is for me Levin. Cloak cookie Lund seriously because. If you're watching a game on TV, you you're probably going to see a couple of replays from a slow more angle, but an real Thames from even though he was an ongoing from the distance. He was from Allison to connect with on the half volley lakey dead with pace, we know he can put in the bowl. It's nine impossible for hunting. Is Hans blitz about bowls in the roof of the net. That's how hard that bowl. Stroke me. Look a little different on a slow mole because most things do. But I as I'm in no blame the whatsoever. It was an immense. Finisher Magai who've seen time after type is high. These injury problems of Lee as hard with failing Dino lose to along with Bernado selver were just huge deficits. Also also done to highlight. That was calculated that wasn't just that wasn't something swing that his life. That was a calculated decision to go roof. I was only only place you could put in the button. It's interesting here in. Company off the game talking about how big a win. This was saying this is one of the greatest results have had during his time at the club. Referring to Liverpool as crypt tonight. Is that just getting up in the moment? Or is that significant? I think there's a little bit of both. I think it was a big result book city of speakers towards the end of the season. I remember game here when the United to the title the first time in that was a real kind of that was that was a title decided. So they've got big games in this book. I think city realized that if they hadn't won. I mean, if it a loss that would have been anything one seven points. Hadn't lost president would have been almost like climbing. Everest seven points this Liverpool team. So they had to win. And so from that point we companies, right? It was again they had to win. It was the end deliver for city for quarrel compete to an extent the place, I've been there for longtime got the clue in the literature. All the highs and lows it. You know, they pulled out, and that's why I this a lot to say his title roasted been there before and I'm still not sure how little cope in the ruining after what happening twenty fourteen the crowd outfield. Get too intense to two desperate to win that transmit to the players. So I think of the pictures, psychological. This is a big results because it shows there's a lot to be gained by win. These big games. Afterwards said the game is a ring. She is in the fact that the goal the almost the goal line. And of course, Sanei just thinking of the post. He also said that he didn't know how Vinson company wasn't sense off the challenge on solid in the first half. Should that be real have half a dozen times? I keep changing my mind on where usually usually make a decision on a goal the moral liquid at the mortar airing on the side of red card, right? Even though most jumps out the wiz settling reckless challenge. But. I think no look read about some of these several times and mostly everybody has but the referee's got one Luke Luke speed come said himself, if he doesn't make the challenge, and this is not an excuse, then more Saleh's would go. So I think there's an element of did get away with it for sure. Unto detail of the monumental decided. It was going to be a yell. You won't definitive. You'll read read read street we did because number one he left. Left the ground. He goes in horizontal emotionally Clint eclipse him he's is not as much Hoti hits him because Mosala to read it. But in the modern game that's red card all day long. I'm maybe the referee didn't of a perfect view. We've had many perfect views the replace, oh and so forth. But my first reaction was read. Let's talk about the ninety school the winner because it was a funny old game. Because just moments before we everyone was pretty much saying, right? You gotta hook game off when he was having potch LeRoy Sahni about giving the ball away. I mean, he works out. And that's been one of the criticisms of it not back in not truck. And but we know we fast and tricky, and he can he can Jenkin run and dribble. He was having a little patch of given the ball away and fighting gave away. Just Pratt him scoring a one it back. And then they go behind Liverpool garden front for an Guerra nicely runny hill these possession to slate deflection. On the strike off the LA it was, you know, obviously from signings point of view that was huge moment for him as a huge moment for a good finish. And I just feel and say please up an interview I've seen it. All everybody seems to be talking about saying, you know, desire goes because last year the end the right to win. Quite comfortably is always difficult in your second year to retain. The game. And no people are asking questions of mine, Chester city. And I think the one thing that they showed the monitoring the funds is that the opera puty again going to be easy because we all know the complete it can plays. Well is Real Madrid Liverpool bossa the best, but they really dug an tonight when when it went against him in the second half with Liverpool equalised and had that big points gap. And it wasn't Oprah in setting off. When you made the changes your but showed some stomach the stomach for the fight. We'll talk about the thing. -nificant this result regarding the title race moment. The history was made is the first game in which has been in charge sits in which they didn't have more possession in the opposition. It's tight isn't it but Liverpool remain favorite. So win the Premier League after that defeat today sits trained to sixty five Spurs very much on the outside looking eighteen so one just six points behind. It was interesting. What was saying on the show, boys? The fact that city of being there done that. And you saw that today. And that makes the difference where we see more of that now until the end of the season to really is. I don't even know the lost tonight. I don't see lever pill jopin too, many points. I just don't have well oiled, even when the not playing at the best still gonna cost teams problems and generally defensively, very solid, particularly if it can get Gomez unless buffet love for note that will help. So I don't see a drop in many points might come down to engines and suspensions to the scored because. I just don't just Don. I said he might have to go all the way through unbeaten right potentially to get to get title. Joe paycheck favorites? Well, I agree with the butter four points clear. It doesn't matter who they're going to play. You can you can look at the stand. Look the fiction say, well, maybe they'll drop point zero. The it doesn't matter because the where the clubs got this club. You know, moving in the right direction in the way, I'd say a little bit more insights into what company said tonight about the plane with the tonight plane without passion. The most would in training in addressing before the because they knew what it meant. And I feel there can carry that through every game, which is very very difficult. That can officer keep challenging, but Liverpool just seems to get the balance rights all the time creek says if Gomez comes the most most improved the defence and the midfield area since to be rotating for phone in really gets it wrong going forward with with the fantastic thirty million quid sign in chicanery. I mean, he's been a revelation. I thought was ridiculous sign and he's been fitted imperfectly with the balance. What Liverpool have on the passion to win it? Couple with with the funds are. Yeah. They are favorites. But it's gonna be policy at home and lasted away for city lose defeats which we didn't see those coming. And didn't see those coming have Liverpool to the booze in them when it gets stage of the season where you in the team and the balm four or five and nut team could drop relegation-zone away from home, and it's just an absolute fest fate, right? I never the window. That's when that's when we're going find out because this woman sign a leeway for certain teams. But when it gets to half a dozen eight nine games left in the season and teams done the bomb and of been done there scrapping for the lives. You're doing you into try and go point. Can handle the still top it up? He's interesting because you brought up two thousand fourteen you mentioned the Anfield factor as well. It's a big job isn't it now for to try and manage that for the rest of the season to try and keep expectations in check not only within the locker room but outside as well. Absolutely. And I think what clubs do I'm not. So sure I mean being there twenty four team field, and there was a real it was almost a frenzy at signs and lip ones. That are so desperate to in the title that the propelled them all the way or become a problem because it's hard to describe how how intense is almost like the holy grail for little now they have to win the title. And they've only got two members of the squad of when the Premier League, Daniel storage, James Milner. It's a squad crumble of wins. I think you know. The starting eleventh amazes strong these primarily, but you look at the defense if Robinson's ended Merano is not a good defender if DIKO Gomez engineered lover nomadic come in and it right back in Alexander honor. For me is is a good process somethings we ever wait link. And if he's missing then the client, so I think once eleven dribble beyond that, they have another depth that maybe since you've got. So there are issues and also the Trump is league draw it by municipal bits of caring for them city shelter. So that could also have any fats livable favors, four points. Clone. Privileging strong. And if I don't think to start in the trucks with things that could them up. I don't think they will. But I I don't feel is a big factor. The desperation taxing crashing behind you. He seems quite iota Berra. Yogi call it should give enough to the game. When you know realize that it was a big game. When you Celtic ranges what nine in a row starting doing tent every way, you everywhere, you went people myself people must have just said you go to surely this can be someone that would live Apu now from the from before the season started. So the last game of the season where we wanna on the last day and could've could've still lost. It. Are among the Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Sunday was reminding you and tell you you go to make this and that's going to be the same. As Liverpool and extent, of course, it has an air of because seen over the last ten years United and Austin and no set in jail, the vote a piece of the pie domestically NV. Haven't know what a would see. And as the old one about would you take possession at the start of the season up. -solutely the move themselves forward. Go keep the contrast. They get a sense a half the can organize the debate that they can bring into action in rotate that can change the shape, and it's still gonna frontline dead started the start of the season. But it's but it's heads. It's straps in recent weeks and particularly Morcella. So I don't think there's any major conceal on-field at this moment and say the thing with the squad is alright club at his press. Congress's say whatever say is in training. What of the players of to do the job the biggest fighter speak to Stevie boat. All the time when Liverpool the oldest repeated repeated repeated why do the do it because the the quality in the dressing room on the strength of character in the dresser. So to plans to jump. To the premise ship. Mill storage storage, not going to feed you very much Oviously. Milner is coming to them. It's still a stall was in that side. Do they have that collective spirit? Do they have the goods for this incredible challenge? That's in front of them because Easter Conal, you all those games, you know, every ball, the money's not moaning fake champions. All these games are gonna come so thick and so fast, you need to be so strong within the dressing room is terrifying. Champions, maybe an issue by pointing obviously by Munich coming up livable. We know how intense period is. Juice is injuries. We know vandyke com play in the first leg. So he's gonna got wristy suspended. But it's going to come down. It's going to come down to engineers Tolkien by possession of not losing anybody can trust can commend. And it might come to the stage where James Mona one of the such as the distrust of Beth Marino, Liverpool, the favorites and never great and their comp. No problem off always city limits. You can say to chasing, right, particularly depending on what we're the pictures. Come out of your plan on us out of the poop in the Sunday. You can really the pressure on them. Bach and try and see how the Riyadh particular. No. The four point go to try and chase down and depending the fixtures. Komo from a player's perspective. You if you gave us out, you get points, you see right over you your plan twenty four hours later, I send you hate. That's gonna be the big thing to deal with Liverpool. She talked about anything else. So she let go into the warm should let them stay. Thank you very much. Always appreciate your input for lot. More chat bound this game. Go over to the website. We answer questions on Xtra. Now, I was action today in league Real Madrid taking on Via Rail via around not good this season. But they managed to get it to to draw. San little news fear Real Madrid. Via rail. Very good look on three games all season. They manage the game two points off the world champions crying, very indicative. How this result was. Jumpy? Meanwhile, Gareth fail injured again coming on thirty eight minutes left, the immature game injured on thirteen different occasions fun now sees and tonight is the third time this term, meanwhile, more emphasis fan was being something more times than any other league season in all competitions was still away results on to how he is the low movie with us tomorrow to give us more insight into that poor own for the world champions, plus discussing the future of Coutinho ball Celona. He SPN pluses your new home for the FA Cup. You you cover this week and all sorts on fries. Just to selection of the matches. Trump me take on the Spurs. You got United reading Chelsea forest blackboard on so on Sunday sitting rather on Monday wolves livable. Every single third round match will be live on ESPN plus Monday Cajun I sat down with mirrors and Craig to discuss then memories of the third routes. Good stories actually surprised just though. Pull mariner with us gives us a chance to replace on the big news from yes that Christian pulisic, of course, making that big money move from brusett Dortmund to Chelsea through in the summer. What do you make of it? To say, it was an hybrid rose on the statement. Your eyebrows, go as high as. That is fine. To say, there's a football not such as the business from the business point of view. Yeah, they're going to settle shirts, and blah, blah, blah. As far as his career his football career. Because if not by Sancho domino played as many games. You look at his stout, sir. Funk tastic starts. Spoken about repeatedly throughout the season. And we wanted to see more we want to see more consistency. We want to see more SIS more goals, so and so forth. But we haven't really seen him put puzzle because Sundays he's playing so well, I just don't know where he's going to fit. I'm the plays of Chelsea guy was on loan. Does he always going by dormant on loan, but just count save knocking anybody to that side? So for me from a football, stump point. I wanted to Liverpool to really getting eleven either. But I think on the club knows very, well, I just feel that in in that situation and not system. I just I don't know whether rights wrong, but I just sensiti do much. Would you have gone if you were him and you're in that situation? Blue thing, isn't it. Nothing to do with it. Good you go funk. Tacit move. You're going to move to London to one of the biggest close most certainly an England. If you. And you believe in yourself to believe in this. He's going to go out dressing room with his chess sticking he's to show what he can do with result to it only time will tell what an interesting things in. Retouched did we touch and it yesterday before we finish the show was the court from sorry. Yes. But he. Basically, I was asked about it last month. We talked about an extra time Kenney said gave a positive opinion. But I didn't know this was happening basic, which is which is quite strange. Interesting, but then suppose in this day and age. That doesn't really a Van Gogh said Alex, Ferguson around who bring all the Pleasants clubs, and technical and sporting direct are can bring in in bringing players at in the monitor either nausea, doesn't anyhow, but you know, as a difficult one people people say, well, you know. You know, you've said what might might not walk always full transparency tickly, particularly for a young player of his always a potential pitfall. But there's a potential for it to go to go whale as well, so signs of winners, initially, surely elicit gets to go to Chelsea Chelsea gonna make a lot of money off jet sales in the marketing would bring with it. They say, oh, I thought you see what am I going to over sudden sale? Are they going to make money on ships? Every every American kids can have a Chelsea show with prolific on the back, everyone every America. Mike is don't support jails jealousy. But I'd be to buy it because it's America link, isn't it? I'm not sure tell you who in the sporting director make resort microcircuits Dortmund. Come and went this is an incredible deal for us. It's a document of the dole the delays anything different. But he knows us an incredible do think Chelsea to print money from this regard Chelsea sort of Chelsea heaven. It's not bad business, folks. Just don't buy into this all the kids in America going to have a Christian pulisic show. I think so. Well, they'll be messy were now to policing. I think it's the same conversation to me if Christian pulisic has the issues that a few of polls brawl game walking around this show. He is the guy his American that doesn't play Chelsea as a great show to have. I think most is only only a commodity. He's out there. Commodity? Let's just go back to the football. Now, we're took a shot south when when you when you make this move when you make a big move this big move from this kid normally you sit down with the money and the coach whoever and he tells you worry seize your fitting in worry his plan. Do you have for me? Know buy into it. So I'm going to want to be signing who's chat with with Chris Christiane to say this way, you're going to slide in Williams going to be you'll going to be in house going to go to Madrid. What of whatever the scenario has been told as anybody sports him from Chelsea apartment. Sandy I met sign in. I'm not sure. But regardless it's still so many contracts on you still doing a kid. Of course, you. Yeah. Well, you're going to agree cities going to clubs. Great move, many many lesson again on social media today. Oh, why are you? If you wanna cheerleader always something that just to come out and say this thing in the world and he's going to play every week and you're gonna take America to the World Cup. And they're going to do that go watch a program with good cheerleaders. The US abra game gonna give you some context. Right. Great young player. Great young talent new guarantees up -solutely, nor guarantees and putting it off the Cup yesterday of all the class plans and say and there was half a dozen as youngsters probably fuller advanced in Christian position on the struggle. Don't put those names code for it. Now, we go we go for it. Yes. That is goods. I'm not used to office coming out quick. Right. So. Let's hope two bucks and say give the boy a chance. Yeah. Shit. He wears two shows for you to young boys. No. Likes railway, you're gonna buy Massey shells Renault. For we gotta check out say one winning ways after losing to Alexis loss waiting until you give all change my team this week. I think most the go look, oh, you gotta then you lose. Tell me and Stevie Steve Nicol second. We can we know that he's not here. Stevie Stevie doesn't take part in this. Meanwhile, end with a visit as to what was up to all this is when you ends the Allston on the big screen could you in? Well, got me knows. No. It was nice to visit any booze any abuse. No, no abuse. That's all it was from then on a waste of money. Ota finds veered away. Guna soros. Give me a hold of that was lovely. I think it's gonna sort but right for. That's right tomorrow. Goodbye tuna saw. Welcome into extra-time. Let's face that. Listen, new two thousand nineteen thing was. Any time of year Rayleigh? You get Email you grow on a bed. It would be quite in Jinja. Ooh, milking, your fish Licko say, I'm Harry than you think. Leaving you brought it up. I saying shorter than last night say last night. Night usually yesterday. Chest that is I sign off and on. On. Home. Just quickly. Hey, you wanna hear some FA Cup stories? Download FA Cup car. So we did today different. The last one, I leave posts kaput custody busybodies. No people have already jobs extra. It was I enjoyed look at me a podcast me me me. We do. Well. Well, I know about made to do we had one. We had one windows any make you do anything some people try. Why is doing the show more often than Stevie? Shocker nali. I'll just more lazy. Jim a five days a week, I'm contracting to and then just report me t shares you. Yep. Saying holidays boss boss, brought me over here three thousand miles five years ago. Not too difficulty days a week Mogae. Right. But you can take an holiday. Recall doing for weeks. He lives a whole of this book until cluelessly. Cluelessly is when. November won't November dolphins. Where we go. I took my whole his may from Thicke, right? And then took mar two weeks and may the UK from Gulf trip. Yes. On a chick some time off before. So I'm Mahal of this year. Just went on. Doing shut love didn't make mistake to start Henderson instead of beano all star being shot SHA. Carry. I thought for being started the interesting thing if you're interested in tactics changed actually change the shape of his deal from always been playing recently. He's been played more solid through the medal and for me no behind and he went back to the the old. The issue is much since he came in which is four three three Mosala on the right hand side, and it left young Alexander is on bags boys does not say so. Obviously he blinked false because he changed any went. It would be to lettuce on the show. We already how quality owner avoid punishment for volleyball throwing skull official today. Marina would have positioned sent bites Portugal. If he did that for the full official. Down. Protected species on the. Supposed to go with it. Didn't do anything also stories. Commie that boundary you just views because you. Util Hammy alright hotel. Ah never made the decision. He's still get paid. You know, voluntary only you mean facial what on mentioned, they still get nice match fee. Prefer to be a full official in a referee. Yeah. Me too for doing those just down. They get people shine abuse initially, guess how to. Initially, guess how to get. Told you before us a walk in the door. Boo. Boo. Boo. Can we stop Stevie for low in? Yeah. Stevie would know stomach woman. Once recovered from winning in the moment. Indianapolis definitely have a bunch of them. When it comes with a wedding story, guaranteed. Definitely will not be repeatable on this network. Stephen this to shed a cobalt he's going to take over the lover. What's your favorite, paulie? Big combination pool. Pie bill. Yeah. From bucco. Appoint a mixed right. Which is mild and bitter, which don't sell over here. Unfortunately, the mile most. I double up on the pas our immune potato lovely. But which is a big then of a meat. Fashion cases, not enough to well. No, it's just feeling Guinness in island two different level. What temperature is the mixed? Go just knowledge scorch with a supply. The Christie Ramona from test. John. Jokes almost the schools do couple of things well, given favorite. He wouldn't stop telling these Christian pulisic show to the American accent? Every kid's gonna have one kid on the planet. Was anybody needs to have some pies? What's your favorite pie back? I'm gonna Asian. I wouldn't have a pie drinking vice versa. Throws. You. What did though did chicken mushroom? I like. Oh, that's nice political Kimmy horrible protector of the kidneys. Stick and onion. What about the calmness? Plus. So she's rolling. All right. Another question have you ever mild and bitter sorry of the red mild and biscuits. Years ago. Dregs on room temperature. His gorgeous though, you get an Jamaica. If you look in public. Dell's mild and bitter, right? The bombing mix. All right. Don't say. It's all about what immediately goes to the mile. Okay. This thanks for explaining that. I that. I also. Me about tens and store. What day this question to finish things on what days too late to say? Happy new year. That same question. Jobling? That's it. Days came on people to this and happy new year. Yes. I am. Well, some right. Gene mood. You say full days. You are saying, although I never. Couldn't boat too much. Comedy believe that you would say up to vote today. Of course, Chris daisy goes going up your new year, we embraced. Probably. No, news eve news. That's not much. Max of effort, isn't it? ESPN SE returns. And Craig could we hand Kofi fag? When the naps kick in as we'll be looking ahead to third round the FA Cup room, and you re single match law on ESPN, plus.

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I'm trying you wanna do something on the show that I don't understand. It doesn't make sense to me. And so I said, I don't wanna do it. I think most people would agree with me. I think we're going to put it to the people. I'm talking about little musical interludes during the podcast as you've all notice listening to this podcast over the last few weeks, we now have a commercial break essentially in the middle of the show, right and JJ coming out of that commercial break wants to have some production value, which I am all four and you'll see today we have one that makes sense. It's a production piece. That leads into a thing that we're then going to talk about. JJ want to have a highlight of Troy Deeney scoring for watt for against Leicester City in the championship play on twenty thirteen Russia's something. We reference as one of the greatest moments we've ever seen in football all the time, what is how we put it to music, but it doesn't matter. This is something that's something that's particular to this podcast and people would overtime get used to these. It's just so incredibly random seamlessness of the highlight into the thing that we're talking about. It makes sense. So I come out of the break. Oh, that's Troy. Deeney. Scoring goals. Mentioned it back. That's the whole point. You don't mention it. You don't have to people that will start talking and people just be like, wait, what was that? Why we did it with James Miller last week because we were talking about the, I would join it without it. We did the James Milner piece because we then immediately talked about that game hit the carbo noise now. So at least know that you're not mailing this in. Good feel better much better. We will get to the Cariboo noise by the way. I mean nothing to you. They mean everything. We talked all about it. I thought about it, but I really like it so democracies don't like it. It's just I don't. Now it's uncomfortable for every all the parents are fighting. All of our children are huddled in a corner and they're weeping right now. They're wondering what's wrong with mommy and daddy. Mommy has won this argument of mommy. In this scenario, we'll get to these care about cut mattress. By the way the this noise that everyone is just like needs to have. I get so much blowback we don't use. So I realized I had said that I misspelled it is not view. Don't even know how badly k. a. or b. o. you. It's one thing to like. I misspelled it already from how the Caravelle Cup. I spelt it like the animal to caribou, but then on top of that, if I was just spelling the word caribou, I misspelled that it was multiple layers of misspellings, but I did find it. So we do have a back so you can all rescues. Yeah, I know. Terrible without that. I don't know how. Yeah, we'll talk about those games or actually a decent for third round of of a League Cup. I actually think there's a lot to kind of their story lines man, and we will talk about the US open Cup funnel which happened last night in Houston. JJ is was ready to throw his television out. The window of his apartment is ready bunching it. He's not even the union fan on this podcast. No, but, oh my God, I, that leads me into a question and then I promise we will get into like the the soccer and all that. The so the Cup final last night? I, it was a mad his birthday, so we kind of did like birthday. She didn't really want to get home from work and then watch that on her birthday. Imagine that ever not. Yeah. And so like I Devi art it and obviously it was a horrible game and when it was over a and this is funny because it's a conversation I just had with a friend last weekend bef- because Everton lost. And he was a friend of his was going to watch the game on on DVR, and he was wondering, I wonder if I should just tell him and he asked me what I thought. I said, no, you gotta think you have to let you can't do that thing where you tell somebody, you know, don't bother. No, they've got. I was wondering at the end of that game, it was just so blah, and it was so disappointing for Philadelphia who I support, and I was kind of wondering it's late now and I still have a lot of work to do, and I have to wake up really early. I wonder a kind of wish somebody hit just said to me, don't just don't even. But I don't know what is the right thing to do as a supporter. You've got to live that you just have to. Yeah, I think it's natural to have thought afterwards. I wish someone had warned me, but you're right. I would have been disappointed if somebody had said, don't bother because I was excited like I want, you know, the build up. I wanna watch the game and live the highs and lows the many, many lows as it turned out was such an abomination that the five hundred or so people that were representing for the Delfi some of them Philadelphia front office so that Philadelphia union paid for their front office to to go out to Houston to watch this. I think if they'd known in advance said, okay, yeah. Moms. We'll talk a little bit more about that after our commercial break with beautiful production piece leading into, but we start now once again with, let's start at Old Trafford JJ were Manchester, United lose on penalties to the fighting land parts, which leads us into. On on a big land par, Gerard walk with a keen focus on Frank as Darby county go into Old Trafford and they come up Torius. They move on to the fourth round of the Caravelle Cup defeating Manchester United. Yes. How would you be the following morning if you were Josie Marino mulling upon the fact that one of your former proteges came into Old Trafford and played the kind of football that your team doesn't play that created and was creative and did it in his. Let's his maiden voyage into professional football. This is first job. How would you fail? You probably go after Paul pas on the training camp. Would you. I think that's accurate on the training ground you you'd. You'd make smart common to which he replies, then you'd ask about the Instagram. When did Paul post that Instagram you'd call over the social media guy very Curtly and you'd ask them that all in front of the sky cameras, so, but that's we'll get to that. I'm sure. Let's talk core. Let's talk about the game on. Look dot is that is the the context in which this must be framed. I'm just going to name out the tacking fours for both sides. You've got under Herrera are not hit in the mid field and on front of that in the attacking sense. You've got one matter. Jesse lingered Antena Marcial an Ramalu Lukaku Mason mount. Chelsea prodigy teenager Wilson, Liverpool Loni Loni on David tardy three year old. David Nogent. What what are you getting like? How this happen, how does this often? But more than that, I've got to blame the players for this. Okay. Because you know, that's an attacking team with with unless they've been beaten down so much by Marino that they can't know even beat Derby County is this where we're at, it was a, it was the most chasing knighted Old Trafford in a long longtime. This had this had throwbacks to the the von Hal, the early von Hallier. Remember they went to MK dons and they lost yes or no. This was this was on a level with that. Well, I mean, look, they weren't thrashed. It wound up going to penalties, and you could say that, well, you know what? I was going to try to find a silver lining. I'm not even gonna bother. I was gonna say they did show some fight in that filleting score. Hang on. This is the midfield that was possession wise was. Bested by Darby. Darby is a project. It's it's by no means complete. This is the Derby County team that's been beaten by rod room and Millwall already this season. Yeah, but we've got to talk about that, but they're like they're competing right now for a playoff spot like they look like. They're going to be aside that remains in contention throughout the season to get to the championship. I know I know, but it's built on Loni journeyman striker David Nugent on. And. Fifty three percent possession at Old Trafford Andrew, you can. It's amazing, six shots on target to United's four, four hundred ninety. Seven passes by super Frank. Lampard star become anti four hundred forty eight by United. And that's a midfield again, I'll say it matych top-class Harare top-class Mata linger, marshy. Look, I don't need to go through their individual CV's what is going on? Yeah. Yeah, that that's the question. What is going on at Manchester United because it feels like we have now come full circle where we're back where we started in preseason with Josie Marino sitting on the podium at Los Angeles, giving the crisis press conference. It felt like we got through that United had the stretch of wins on the road and like that. It's it's snapped right back to where we started from, which goes to show that you know winning can only paper over the cracks. So much a. Club that has true structure and true death to it can afford to lose a couple games and not behave as though the sky's falling, right? You are clearly seeing right now that Manchester United, whatever, whatever we thought about them during that stretch of wins that, okay, all is right with the world it. It never was winning was just a temporary band aid, but it wasn't a true antidote. We're seeing now that they've gone back to having lost a couple or not even lost. They drew with wolves, and now they've lost in the League Cup or out against the chip side, all of that stuff. All that bad feelings. It's all come exploding back to the surface, and it feels like now we've almost crossed the threshold where there's there's no turning back. There's no amount of winning if feels like can kinda cure the ills that have separated a group of important players within Manchester United from their manager. Yeah, I was listening to Ken early the other day in the media aftermath game who said. There's no amount of winning is going to catch them. They're not going to win on a on a pace now in the primarily to get back to a Manchester City, you know they're out of that as well. In regards they're not gonna win the tight listen. So we're in this kind of weird area where. How should I put this? I think we're in a holding pattern as well under. I think we're gonna continue to see. Remember I said, let's not over egg on Monday because we're gonna be talking about this for the whole season. Yeah. And this is going to be a soap opera because I don't think they're going to remove the manager. I don't the determinants that would be caused by getting rid of either. Marino are popular now is I don't think something Woodward wants a deed with. Who do you think is more likely to be there look Papa. I don't think is being sold off in the January transfer window, so he's not going anywhere. So I guess the question of who's more likely to be there at the end of the season is an obvious one Pogue by think is the answer that question over Josie. Marino I think Marino I don't know if he can like, will it come to that? Will it reach that point? Yeah, I think that we're there now. You think we're there already. I kind of think that it's a, you know, Joe's Marino needs to go into Woodward's office and say, look, this has become untenable, can't manage this team because there are players who are following. Paul pod was lead, and in my opinion, as the manager, he setting the wrong example and the wrong tone for what I want this club to do. So you have to decide it's him or me. I feel like we're kind of we've kinda gotten to that point. It's amazing, Instagram. It's got the the petty level of Instagram stories in the STAN joying game or no Marino's aware of them. But like watching that that back and forth with out on the training ground, like it's just so it's so out in the open and so public. Now, like you've got players just kind of like circulating through this argument that's happening like that is such a dysfunctional environment for a club that is already teetering. Ceramics. Ferguson did not want Minorca to get involved are are find a way to warm his way into the club either through a player or any other means he did not want that a now that this is come to pass. You can see, you can see what's on. I'm not blaming Royal by the way. I'm just saying that problems we're going to be caused on the line and their disdain. And for each other and I was is palpable. I also questioned the wisdom. Maybe it's Premier League rules. I know the TV cameras are allowed in for the first ten or fifteen minutes of training. After the feet like that, I would have shut up shop if I was the social media and the media guys at United trying keep this trying contain this a low. I guess you kinda hope that there's a to their sectionalism about your manager that he's not going to do something like that. Let me defend Marino. Second hair pod comes os, and there's a scene in the office in the English office where David is returning to the office and Neil, the good-looking boss that's replaced him is there, but there's also Finci in Gareth because to latkes are not as lackeys really, but two guys he'd want to be in with and he comes over and he goes eight Finci slap high fives him shakes hands with Gareth. A Neil puts out his hand. Any Blankson park book comes in, and he makes no attempt to make nice Marino to to greet him in any shape or form. It's it's Carrick, and then it's one of the assistants and then Marino delivers a lying that freezes Pago Isla we know what that line will. I do not know what that line was. The only audio we picked up on afterwards was where Marino summons the, I guess the me one of the media guys and asked what time Papa posted the Instagram post. When did. Paul post. That's all we really have. Yeah, it's amazing. I've analyzed a passage of of greeting on the Man United training ground more than of talked about Wilson's unbelievable freaky, and it really was to. It was stoning, I screamed while at work. It was so good luck the anatomy of its mazing because I think his name is Yannick a guy who follows us on Twitter asked, basically, how has the keeper being wrong-footed like this. But on that left side, you're expecting them to try and cut it over the wall and go to that post. So the keepers kind of covering that bulls, he takes two steps that are left with absolutely kill him. They're not even huge steps on anyways, even if he didn't. I don't think he's getting there. It was like a knuckleball. It was owned believable was no spin on it. It was up and it dipped wickedly. Oh, and then fillet scores, late allies. And then didn't you think in the. A penalty shootout I'll tell you what man's the best penalty shootout of seen in the white couldn't agree more every penalty for the people who say, it's all luck. I kind of sometimes do subscribe to that because a lot of it is down to which way the keeper just happens to guess to go. But this is one of those penalty shoot outs where that was just not the case every penalty. It seemed until Phil Jones is at the end was just so well taken by both sides Marino afterwards, like Phil Jones is being humiliated. Let's be honest without penalty. 'cause Phil Jones in his mind was I'm just, I just need to get this on the frame. The penalty was so weak and everybody kind of felt if anyone's gonna miss going, be Jones. Marine goes, yeah, I was worried when we got through our best penalty-takers. I knew it was Phil an Eric by that we're going to be next up, but they were excellent penalties, really, really excellent on the composure. Some of the derby pairs in particular. I Richard kill who's a derby stalwart, but as never been the most graceful player and certainly not go, you've. Wanna see taking a penalty. I certainly not a center half of much goal scoring knoll. He comes up nails penalty. We should move on from the scam. Yeah, there's a lot of other things to talk and United won't go away. The less thing. It's only fascinating just because JJ feels like a mutiny has happened at arguably the biggest club in England between the players and the manager, and, oh, by the way, it happens to be like the most well-known manager in the country right now, whether or not they're not playing with the intensity that suggests that he hasn't lost the dressing room. He he, he looks like he may have. I'm so curious how this is going to play out. Let's see. We continue also on Tuesday, Manchester City, taking care of Oxford United as you would expect, don't have a ton to say about that. Only accept that. If you were on Twitter during that game, you would have thought that Phil Foton had kind of come down to the pitch from the heavens that God himself had delivered us. This player. His range of passing. His movement was fantastic, and he got his first senior goal for Manchester City. He built Andrew, he's a very good player. You could even see that in the training session. They had a New York. He's he's excellent. He couldn't knock me not me and I was wearing jeans. I just need to make that no, I know he's brilliant. He's eighteen years old. He was insatiable in this game. He's been sensational in the youth ranks for England all the way open luding winning the World Cup. Are we looking at the next big thing here? If if if Guardiola's commitment is to play him regularly, I don't see why not. Can he do that though? We're talking about like Manchester City, just they don't. They do not operate in this way. He will have to be of such a level to compete with the likes. I mean, look who we're talking about in the midfield for Manchester City. David Silva debris. When he comes back, we'll, here's Nardo. Silva has emerged and is now a star. This is not easy. I spoke to Mark Ogden and he's really excited for the foreign, but he's also cautious because if he doesn't go on loan, he said to me over the summer when me play. And that's a fair point. What Liverpool are dune Wilson on guys, like Klapka said, we're putting you on loan, but if you're not playing on loan than we'll take you back and we put you on lonesome where we where you will play. I think he needs a low move. He does. It's a shame that it feels like this. There's this hidden gem that is just kind of been stymied in some way by. Because of the the size of his club look at Mason. Moans look at look at Wilson like they've come into championship team and a team that, like you said, competion hopefully for the playoffs and they are playing regularly and you can see it in them the confidence, the minutes, it makes a difference and you, you hope that's the only way Ford and realizes potential. It's probably to leave city for a period I saw on Twitter. Someone was talking with us or you repeatedly about of voting being the next any esta. Okay. Which in the moment seemed like it was just like, ha, let's laugh about this. And then Foden was asked about being the next any esta after the game, which is nine. He laughed at off, which is non, which is like at Oxford away come on. Yeah. Let's see. We move now to Wednesday's couple matches here that I wanted to discuss, and we begin with Liverpool and Chelsea with Liverpool falling. They relinquished one nil lead. Chelsea come from. Hind at Anfield to go on and win that game. And I guess the the question is because it's the third round of the care about Cup, and because it's you're not necessarily you're not necessarily seeing the the top eleven. So I've been trying to like contemplate in my head how to read into that result. Well, this is how I break it down. There was before and after mooner the report were before and after EDNA hazard when hazard comes into the game, he's magnificent and anyone who tells you a wise all well, you know, how can you be magnificent? Niff- isn't. He was against Marino and he scored pass. Minya lay, I would say to them to hang on. He also spun past Naby Keva on for being had to bites at the apple and couldn't get near him. That's how I put it. That was a brilliant goal. But I do think Liverpool lost out in intensity when when Milner went off the field or forget he was involved in the turnover. Her in the lead up to the gold. So this is this is a shot across the bows to your Klopp about particularly about the weekend's game about how good hazard actually is when he when he's in the form, but I don't think you can read a whole lot into it because Liverpool made changes that during the second half that I felt really were to the detriment of the team winning the game. Well, they did bring on Sahlin for me. No. Do they not yet? They did well, they kind of sprung them too. To rescue. They had to be brought into the game at that point, but I think they didn't start. I think you also had for being ardent start either. No, he didn't, but that's the point he came on and that was my comment a shot across the bows dissolve. Good. He is us excellent with almost every touch the ball. Fibbing his first minutes in Liverpool jersey plan and not kind of pivot role in the mid fate was it wasn't very impressive to me. He obviously needs time to to climatize into get into his full flow. So that's, that's another factor as well. I think for its learning curve for Kate and for menial, there's an intensity that Liverpool bring to the game and terms of tackling winning the ball, closing players down, and that was not showing in the hazard winner and they need to be better. That's certainly true and look. The other thing too is one of the things that we've really lauded about Liverpool. This season has been there. Centre-half pairing of Joe Gomez, virtual Van Dyke either of whom played in this one as it was Joel Matic and my favorite player probably the best defender in the world according to him, DeJean loving who's probably got a lot in his mind right now, some legal issues, he's got himself entangled. I'm not rooting for. I wanna make it clear. I'm not rooting for that stuff. No, I know I, I root against them as a player, not as a human being. I'm glad you had to make. Make clarify when sometimes on on shows like this, you say, oh, I hate that guy like there's sports hate, and then there's actual human to human hate, and you've got to make the distinction clear. Sometimes you do. I wanna talk a little bit more about in hazard. I sack by the way. This is not to make you relive it, but this is the goal of which we speak out again. Cater trying. Scoring. Pretty thing. Quite fixing. The season such a great goal from beginning to end the way he kinda liked just almost uses Asheville a as a prop like here. Let me just pass us to you so I can quickly run up and catch up to it. Just hold it up for me. It gets it back abuses to defenders. I mean, the right of rinsing he gave Marino Marino l'est hard to believe. We're not that far removed from when Marino was a regular fullback for Liverpool. It just goes to show why they are where they are now, but Ross Barkley after the match talked about and hazard because I suggested on the run down to see the best player in the league. But that was before I saw Ross Barclays, quote, and Barclay takes it a step further. He says, he's one of the best players in the world, and he shows it. He's been showing it for the last five or six years, and he's establishing himself in the top three players in the world at the minute. He's probably the best player in the world. Okay. I don't know what I'm supposed to sit that I, I would subscribe anything. I don't know the World Cup like he was magnificent in the world cope. He was. The guy look at his even in terms of his strengthen the ball was a few Liverpool fans on Twitter last night trying to convince themselves that he's Machiavelli in diver all the time. I think he has that rep on him to be that one of his best goals for Chelsea VR smell was last season or the season before he just holds off the defender. Bullies defenders with his strength. Does he go over? Yeah. And the one time that he really dive to go over was when Henderson made attack on last night. And that was like in the eighty nine minute there and front of Liverpool's goal trying to kill the game, take take the clock down. You know, he's a brilliant player if someone wants to tell me, I think he's the best in the world right now. Fine. I think it's the same thing that we said about Muhammed saw last year. It doesn't necessarily mean that he is better than Messier Rinaldo. But right now he right now. He is in this moment and I think the Ross Barclays not off base in making that calm. And I, I don't want this conversation about. Hazard to on his performance last night to devolve into, you know, some kind of fee for best competition. We've been through that already like that. We've seen the fires of that competition already. I don't really like making these comparisons, but if you want to tell me, I well, we're only doing it because Ross Barkley did it. I know where we didn't bring this up. We're just commenting on something that he said, yeah, that that, that whole awards the other night road people the wrong way, what the divine Ling's is the last bastion of true awards. Manship that matters. I agree. I think I'm ready to make a comment about Eden hazard. That may anger, some my fellow Tottenham fans. He is. Now, look, he's done things that annoyed me in terms of like Chelsea Spurs rivalry. Okay. But in terms of US you had him, oh my well, that's the obvious statement of the century. But in terms of like players to watch right now in the league, he's my favorite non Tottenham player. That's that. I just like, I, I love him. Love waves game. I'm way more forthcoming with these kind of comments. New. Are you like? No, let's go to the Tottenham. Cabal aren't going to come after you just feel very sensitive to those things. And by the way, like how dare you. I read that quote and he said, okay, what am I supposed to say? Like? I'm a d. for asking it and then you go in for five straight. I would like it was such an off-base question. You've had it with me. Why do you need opinion of Ross Barkley to come to what you already know? I don't care what Ross pack is to say about anything. There you go. And last, but not least you're speaking of Spurs. They survive Wofford in pretty exciting game, don't played at your new stadium. That was uncomfortable, but you know, it's fifty miles from London and they're playing home games there. I don't know. It's just weird. It's just a weird place embarrassment, but they do win a couple of things. As a Spurs fan that have kind of struck me over the last few weeks for Tottenham for one. This was important just because I do feel like there's this, this growing urge that they have got to win a trophy regardless of what that trophy may be. So remain in this competition for as long as possible. I know right now feels like, oh, whatever it's the League Cup. It won't feel that way in the last you know, in the semifinals onward, it will matter. So remain in this long as you can when, sir, Ben Kingsley is narrating the tale Zack how you want it. Exactly. It's going to feel much better. Right? And a couple of players that I kind of want to give a special shout out to Paulo Guzman. IGA has come in as the third keeper for Spurs with lorries hurt. And now Michelle Vorm hurt on has been competent. I'll come on. He's been better than competent. That's not fair. All the things that you question about form Ghazni has been very good shot stopper, but he looks incredibly comfortable with his feet. And that's the one thing that I think Spurs maybe were lacking with form. Sometimes I wonder if they're lacking with lorries because an IGA has come in and he's been excellent. I think as for third keeper for what they've gotten from him in the penalty out, he was great with two saves. I didn't see any of it. Oh, so you're just completely. You're just being that guy. Look at you smiling right now. You didn't see any of it, but I was gonna make you decided before this. Okay. Whatever he says now just disagree. It's based on nothing. It isn't based on fact just disagree. Such an irritant and the other guy wanted to mention was Eric lamelo who I think not good enough. Well, he's man of the match, but whatever not gonna cut it. He was excellent. He set up the first goal scored. The second goal maybe you could say, was at fault for watt for equalizer, giving up his action in kind of an awkward spot. But there was still a lot that what I had to do after that to to convert he's forced his way back in the conversation of being a first team player, and you would kind of forgotten about him because he was hurt so much with his hip injury. But all of a sudden now, again, like we always find these conversations with Tottenham going back to the topic of depth. And you know if he's going to be playing like this, then you have to start to once again, feel like there there is some depth there, whether it's him or whether it's now ever will be backing him up, but he's just been playing at such a level over the last two or three games probably where you have to say. I don't know how you don't play this guy right now. He's been magnificent. Thank you. Take him seriously. We'll talk about Liverpool for an hour and a half, but I'll bring up one thing on Spurs and it's all just a joke to you. I haven't seen enough for you like your use this all about the Troy. Deeney thing unites all about that. It's not about that. You're so enraptured with the manner like, but he didn't talk him out of the weeks. He came off the no ever since he scored you've wanted him in the team from the minute. He scored the volley against Liverpool. What a ten minute cameo we add not game. You've just didn't say anything about that. You said straightaway you wanted him into the team, you're this is fake news. I remember you saying, oh, well, he's got to scar scored last against Liverpool. You want. He had to start against inter that was your thoughts. He he's played really well since he's played fine. You haven't watched them. I didn't see that game. We saw the other games he's he was. He was good against Brighton. You don't respect me is what this comes down to by the way. Now I'm in that mood. No, I'm sorry. So we mentioned earlier this week from a listener who wants us to talk about the non top six with a greater frequency. And we you and I both agreed. You know what? Maybe that's some of the most part eighty that's we should do. But before we decided to dive into that, we do talk about wolves, Newcastle law. We do, but I understand his point because our focus is usually, you know, like when United Lou? Well, I was gonna say, when United draw with wolves, we talk about United, but we actually did talk about wolves a lot. Nevertheless, we put it to the listeners and said, is this thing that people want for us to bring back the wheel, put some of the table, lower table teams on it and spin it, and I didn't look at their responses because that's just how I operate. But you have told me that the people have responded resoundingly and they want this just as we started this podcast, we had a man emailer saying, I'd like you. To do well, you know, what were very inclusive ask and you shall receive. So here we go. No, because we've got the wheel different type away. The football. We've gone wheel football. So you've got to put in that. It's yeah, it's rubbish hit that one it has to happen, right? You're yeah, you're absolutely right. You know, what should I do the whole thing again? Do it again. Okay. Really. So here we go, I've taken the wheel and on it. I mean, you should've seen the glistening names that were on Biron row, Madrid, Barcelona, rip them off, took them all off and replaced them with the likes of Huddersfield Cardiff and so on. So we'll give it three spins and we promise we will talk about these three clubs for the the a lot of time here. Ready? Yes. Burnley. Oh, you can't get much more crappy than that kind of. Well, yeah. Wait a minute. We will my God. All right. We're on the clock. Oh. You say you kick it much more crappy than that. That's an interesting thing to say right now because I think a week ago, well, you know what? I was gonna say a week ago, I would've agreed then they demolished born with four nil, and I would have said, oh, okay, we'll maybe this is like the resurgence that they needed, but then things happened in in the care about cop and they lost to Burton, Albion. Okay. Burton Albion. On their manager who was actually the son of Bryant, Nigel close strays, he's, he does a decent line in Cup upsets are making Cup games, difficult. I'm gonna. I've tip them to struggle the season. I think they still will. They're going to be in and around the relegation zone for most of the season, but they're coming off a big win. As you said against born month, they've got Cardiff this weekend and followed by Huddersfield de. I feel this season. Defining they get six points out of that. They can start looking to try and push as they say Sean. Ky-ko on the rest of the season is still going to be difficult, but these are must win game. You are right six points right now right now they're currently sixteenth. They got one win one draw and four losses right now. There's a muddle of teams that are, you know it's early. There's a lot of teams that are right around that four point margin where they are, but throw six points on top of that. And I think it will provide some breathing space Now, Sean Dyche you know, this is he's not. This is not lost on him that right now considering where they were by the way the clocks because we got three minutes the halfway point where they were last season, the way the season ended. You know, he understands the perception is that they are under achieving right now, and he spoke about the slow start. He said, the club were well recognized last year. They finished seventh in the Premier League. That's a really high achievement for a club like Burnley, but that can bring a bit of a bit confusing. Everyone is individuals and collective thinking where we at the demands change the fans change the noise from the media change that take some adjusting. Then you add in the complications from the rope league and the physical side of that makes it even tougher. I think Sean Daish doing an interesting thing here where he is, I don't know if I would go so far as to say, he's telling people that what happened last year was an aberration, but he kinda, he kind of is I think he's sort of saying, we've finished seventh last season. It was really fun. It's not who we are book that don't get used to that that that cannot be the new normal. Even in our previews at the primary, we said that that can't be the new normal for team like, and also the way sets his teams up. Andrew, his squad is one of the smallest and the primary he likes to work with a small amount of players. Now, he will take from the fact that the Vigia who was signed from every county over the summer, he got off the Mark against born, but that was important. They need barons to score. They need at Robbie Brady has is back running after his injury. So that's going to be like a new player committed and hopefully before the end of the season as well, they've got, they've got some decent pieces, but a lot of the things they did last season. It's going to be tough to replicate. I see them as bottom half dwellers if they can operate in the upper echelon of the bottom, half dot swear, they will be if they can do that. That'd be good season for another spin. Yep. Around and do on Southampton is where it lands. Let's talk about the saints. Last year was a nightmare for them. In some circles, you'd have to almost say that they were lucky to have avoided relegation. Are you seeing anything this year that makes you think this will be a better experience for them? When I look at their squad, I think that there are worse squads than theirs, and that makes me happy for them. But otherwise, I don't see like, I don't see a lot Machias talked about in the run into the Liverpool game. How? Oh, well, creating chances won't be a problem. We've done that. You know, all season and I just never felt that way I look up front I, we've talked about this for a few years in that for a while. It has been that way for why. I know Shane long started at Anfield probably because downings is and fit, but I don't see Shane long as note. Note strike who's going to get you the goals. I mean, has. He to in the last two years or something eighty months, this combo of look. I remember on the podcast saying that I thought Danny ings was a good move for them simply because you know, look, look what you have. So you may as well take a flyer on a guy who will come in relatively cheap for you who's been battling injuries. If he flames out, then you're kind of back to where you started. But if he goes back to The Danny aines that attracted Liverpool's attention now you may have somebody who can be a competent striker for you. Because right now you know, you're right, Shane long. Is he kind of just we all know what he is at this point, a lot of ice n pricey while you play him, but you've, he's gotta be setting for someone else. He's not gonna scored the goals, charity Austin. I don't know why he doesn't play two front like Austin's got other powers he can. He he's physically can bring into the game. And if you look at that midfield. Those guys have to step up Redmond Hoiberg, Lena day of gotta, get involved more score, more goals on a regular basis to help out this frontline put. If you look at it, they're not an awful team. They're not a look between some of the names. You mentioned. Like we all know what, what pep Guardiola thought of Redmond last season. He was very high on him, Ryan. Bertrand is a good player. Cedric is a good player. You know, Oriole remain has shown another layer network, prowls. I don't mean to interrupt you, but there's something we're dancing around a little bit here is that we, the record of Mark use, and management is is patchy. I'm with teams in this. In this own. He does okay for a while. There's there's a trajectory upward for a little bit and then generally plateaus, and it heads towards the bottom end of the table. And I will be worried that this isn't a manager who was capable of making that much better that they won't be relegated fight. Yeah, I think it's just that creative force who will be that player for them. And it's interesting because last year Sophian boo. File scored my gold the season last year, yeah, but then he fell out of favor with the manager couldn't get back in the lineup and he was sent away, you know? So who's like, you you, you don't care for him who's going to be the guy, then it doesn't really seem like they have that player who can kick them on creatively. I don't think they're going down, but I think I don't think they're going down another year of kinda midtable nece like lower mid like fourteen fifteen somewhere around there. There's two teams definitely worse than them. Right now. Butterfield and Cardiff. Yeah, but that's not. That's not great. No, no. Especially when you think of where south Han one day, this is the top my head, so I don't wanna do it right now when actually think about it. But from the time Southampton reemerged back in the Premier League. So takeout guys like feel Wolcott, Gareth fail who came up through south like, yeah, from their comeback was we should think like, okay, if they never got rid of anyone, what would Southampton's eleven be right now? Because if you think about some of the players that have come through there, right. I'd be very curious. You know, event I one day we're gonna. We're gonna sit down. We're going to do that one more spin, right? Okay. All right people you wanted it, you got it. Brighton and Hove. Albion. Okay. Let let me start on this. Why I feel that I think they'll be okay. I think it'd be okay based on the I test last weekend, I thought they were pretty good against bars. In fact, I talked to were on looking not to get a point from that game on the balance of play. What? Yeah, I'm not going to cut you off. I know you got more, I guess, just commenting off of that game. What I would say is overall, you're right. It ended to one and it could have been to two, however, Tottenham thought were pretty dominant for about seventy five of the ninety minutes. The problem for Tottenham was that other fifteen minutes was so waited so heavily towards Brighton controlling the run, a play in the fact that Anthony knocker did not score when he almost certainly should have right at the keeper, and it was also IGA coming up, big with save. But I, I get what you're saying though. Know what I mean is that you're competing against the top sixteen at home and you're for appear. At least it again for a few periods of the game. You're holding your own like look at them at the back. I like their goal keeper Duffy donc their start speak for themselves. In terms of headed clearances, they're fairly solid, their cowardice Coleman into a little bit of form, which honestly, it was a wasteland lassie's. He was his appointing last very off of having been the championship player of the season before that. I think they thought they'd be getting more goals from him at this level, and he's not providing a worry would be that you're still relying on Len Murray up front and it's not like they haven't dip into the transfer America. I'm looking at two guys in in midfield positions that are sitting on the bench. And I'm wondering what has Chris Houston seen in this time? That means he's using them. Sparingly are in some cases not at all. There's Bernardo that they've brought into the team on the Vauxhall Yana Jawa bash. I don't understand why day can't get a run in the site. He's, he just seems to be a little bit conservative proper had a great season. You're not getting. I think he's a great season last season. I think he's a player that's important to them, but they haven't really freshened up a whole tone. And I think they'll be okay. But there again, they're going to be bottom dwellers. They're going to be in that bottom half. Yeah. And look, they, you could say that they've overachieved at this point. Now, they're thirteenth right now. They've beaten Manchester United the season. I know I take all that into consideration. They're, they're just going to be okay. Yeah. I think the conversation that we just had with Southampton is somewhat similar to them where the goals gonna come from. Now, Glen Murray has four goals right now, which is good. Yes, very what you're again, you're asking of his advancing years, four years of age LARs the spent his days in in in the championship to keep to keep that pace open. I think it's a lot to add think PASCAL gross is somebody who will have to emerge for them and we'll have to start scoring goals. He has one this season. It was a penalty in that United game. I think you'll have to be a little bit better. So there you go? Yeah. I was going to say, I was thinking taking knockouts can knock out in and bringing you pronounce that k-. Yeah, they do. I've only I don't know how to pronounce. I've only heard over commentators with, but yet that's our well, I hope you enjoyed it. It's talked about mine clone. Look, the wheel spins the way that wants to spend. All right, but we'll do it again. We will do it again. I'll tell you what we're gonna come back in the sack. We've got US open Cup, final and a quick what to watch for as well. Don't go anywhere. My name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking mom. My first experience with jewel. I do remember being like, this is good. It's it's, it's like a cigarette, but not. I don't miss smoking at all. Like I can officially say it grosses me out jewel is the tobacco alternative that delivers nicotine satisfaction without cigarette Asher lingering odor make the switch and j. u. l. dot com. Slash sports. Warning this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is Nick chemical. Back now on offside Adri mealy on the call of Wednesday night's US open Cup final the Houston, dynamo, prevail, three nil over the Philadelphia union. And I would save at that scoreline is every bit accurate with how that game played out. The union were poor dreadful, dreadful performance. Yeah. It was honestly for a club who not to see the Houston, don't value this. In fact, the dynamo really, you could tell valued this in that the season is a lost cause for them. In this. This was like the last vestige of, let's get something out of the season. Whereas the union are probably gonna make the playoffs and still have a lot to play for. But the fact that the union earn a playoff race rested pretty much like their entire lineup in a big game over the weekend against sporting Kansas City. They did win that, but the fact that they rested all those players such an important game showed you what this meant to them and for them to have come out. So flat. Now they did nearly score in the first couple. That's but Fafa PICO was rightfully ruled to be off side and then right off of that Houston come back down the other end Gaddis is caught out defending to who had a dreadful game. Yeah, yes. He was the defended poorly. It allowed a least play the ball in that was then converted by tossing the header with some really defending from Elliot. What was Eliot was just lost man. I don't know if he just didn't realize that loss behind lost all game. He was absolutely Minolta's had time to kneel down and headed into the net. Yeah, it was just terrible. And then they concede another goal, which is a good goal from the north has its, although I will say, Blake, it's his fingertips to it. I'm wondering, should he got a stronger hand and pushed it onto the polls push to white, but I'm not gonna blame him. It was a good law drive, but. That was after a sustained. What would you say fifteen minutes where Philadelphia Hof te on puffed and tried to do this, and that never came up with anything. They were the footballing equivalent of constipation, you're pushing, you're pushing, there's it's just awful trust awful. They could get nothing done. Nothing. It was. They couldn't couldn't string passes together on. I'm looking at the lineup, Sapone Bajeux, Rosen berry. They were all full. The what didn't seem to be gained on tater twelve months started the comedy percent. All, I think you know think the union are going to wanna go direct to support because he'll have the the physical height and physicality over DaMarcus Beasley didn't matter. Didn't do one. They did warn one diagonal for him for supporting to get a flick on any fouled Beasley. And that was in the first minute. Did was no game. They were a wish on. They weren't embarrassment. They arrested players for what? Yeah, they lost the battle in every effort of the field. Daytime like upfront, they didn't offer much. This was field was really overrun. This was like a mid week run of the mill MLS league game in the middle of say, April. Nobody's really paying attention to you, win. You hope to get a win your home for point. It didn't feel like a Cup final Philadelphia didn't seem to and how long did carton to make take to make any changes. When was I'm trying to remember now what came in for? Well, that was that was fairly late. That was that passed. The seventy th minute might be on. Remember why I'm not sure. Now doesn't even it was late. Yeah, a com. Did he come into the game? And he did believe he did as well? Yeah, I don't know what else to say like they were. They were truly, they were truly disappointing mainly in. Well, I was gonna say mainly in defense, but really all over the look at the own goal. No, I feel bad for Austin trust for was like, you could see it on his face. He wanted just like what he was trying to do. Well, I knew what he was trying to do foot out and posse. He's trying to clear that for a corner kick. Let's just survive this moment, plainly God. Instead he finished beautifully quite know who stitched him up on that who completely was Elliott. So on the initial on the initial chance, the ball cleared. Will the ball wasn't really clear. I mean, it was kind of parried away by that. He stays in Unst. He keeps he keeps he plays the. I think it wasn't. He keeps the Houston player onsite. He get up when the move, for starters, just all over the place. Yeah. Now he had a bad game. There's no question about it, and I felt bad for Austin trustee in that moment. But you've got someone in the center of the park, like out of hundred Doria who's had a long career in Europe with the men's national team. I didn't always on the pack useless. Yeah, you're right. You're absolutely right. I was also like not to make this about stuff beyond the game because that's what matters. But I'll be honest, man. I was disappointed in the crowd size in Houston for that it was. It was so poor, I would. I wouldn't want to hazard a guess of what it was empty seats galore for seriously supposed to be your. Your domestic Cup showpiece terrible, just terrible. And I don't quite know who who to blame for that because I agree with Taylor twelve on this. This is competition that they've gotta get more out of. I mean, he SPN did their part. It's nationally broadcast, or I mean, look, they can only do so much the competition. Like is what it is. What do you want them to do? Who knows? Who's responsible if not the fans themselves? Yeah, I guess how was it promoted? I know the weather wasn't great yesterday in Houston on some of our Houston listers. Tell me how the the dynamo never Selo whatnot. Good either. No, it's not. But I mean, if you listen a Cup final took at the crowd at the weekend at red bull arena for what should be a big game, Toronto and the red bulls and t- seats galore. The league is struggling in in some markets to really grab the attention. The average attendance is still above twenty thousand. So across. Now that is heavily skewed by Portland, Atlanta, mainly Atlanta, Seattle, Jack that number way up specifically Atlanta when they've got games, they've got seventy thousand. Yeah, it's going to it's going to skew the number, but it papers over the cracks at some markets you so into the open Cup last season because Cincinnati's Ronin it and the way they knocked Chicago, which Weinstein and everything in that game. But this was in terms of just the competition. It says it was socially. Now, the one thing that I would caution you specifically from doing because before we started you just you just like went off on these players. He's terrible in that guys. We're hearing about them forever and Niger in the Lee Lynn. What have you been? What do you mean? You've been hearing about them forever? How long has Padillia? We said me and you've been talking. We talked at the start. We said a calms a good move for them right combs in what's he doing. Sieges upon is a nice guy in of met him, but is is, is this the return dot? Philadelphia expected when they got him in as a player has game is complete for what they've asked him to do this year. He's like more hold up play for like PICO and Corey Burke to score goals. He's not like they're not asking him to be their primary goal score like like he was a year ago. The only thing I would say to you is before you go off on this tirade and proclaim all these players to be crap, just know that since July eleventh, they've lost three games. They've been on fire and they may very well depending on what happens over the weekend where they've got a very important game against Columbus. They may even have a home playoff game coming up in this postseason. So yes, this was a bad night for a team that by and large has been pretty good. So I don't want this to be a scathing indictment on the fact that, oh, the union, same crap team that we've known them to be last night over. It's a bit of an aberration. Andrew, they've won fourteen games. They've lost twelve, but I'm saying they, but as of over the past few months, they figured something out and they've been excellent. I mean, they've really been, you know, they went to Seattle and one amid week game. They're doing enough. They are on telling you right now. They're they're doing nothing. Then the playoffs. If they even make it. I mean, they're six points ahead of Montreal in six place, so I suppose they are going to make. I dunno, just really have. I guess this continues the theme nicely of. Yeah. Yeah. Make grant sweeping proclamations off of sample size, but is it in in in the almost decade since this team has been in the league? I mean, well, this isn't Denny Calif is out there for this union team. I mean, they're different. They're talking about extending the manager, his contract last night. There was the not loaded with with marquee players. They're not loaded with superstars talent. If they get you know there if they get in the postseason and if they even want assume they have a home playoff game because that's still a stretch. But like you can't say, Jim Curtin is not a bad job. I, if we still have to see the big picture, we don't know how this is all gonna play out for them. If they went around in the postseason, then we can have that conversation. Don't wouldn't just count him out to. He doesn't deserve it. A can't get the can't get up for guarantee for piece of silverware last night. And you expect them to kick on? No. And do things in the in the playoff. How about the? I mean, how about the fact that they got to another funnel? I love I love and stuff like that gets held against teams like, you know, it's held against Tom Brady that he's lost Super Bowls. Well, he's also wanted to like, yeah, he's been to more than Joe Montana. Joe Montana won all of them, but so we should hold it against. We should against Brady that he's gotten to more but lost those like LeBron he's gotten to more than joy. I was real shorted one. All of them also LeBron is, should he would have been better served who've gotten to fewer, but one, all of them stuff doesn't make sense. I was rooting for the last night and I couldn't believe how limp they were. It was bad game, couldn't get up for a final. Don't extend the manager like, that's that's such a small view of it better than Houston where so much better than wasn't even that. I agree last night that is exactly what happened. Let's see. We got a quick what to watch for, but before that, oh, oh, new sponsor alert, new sponsor alert. That's right. JJ Indochino. Suits fancy dress where it all just looks so much better when it is made to fit on when your shoulders are incorrect proportion. I wa- I used to walk around wearing suits like the guy from the talking heads David Byrne that's yeah, that's what my suits used to look like. Dick euless. You wanna fit it suit fitted mid to measure your body because if you're wearing a suit that doesn't fit you properly. Then what's the point of wearing the suit? Because nobody's going to look at this fancy expensive suit and say, oh, that's nice. They're gonna say this guy looks like a clown best suit. Where're in the primary goal. Let's see. 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And Indochino is going to cover them real quick what to watch for here because we're up against it primarily not a ton of big aims, but certainly one that stands out, we'll get to it in a sex Saturday. Your weekend kicks off with West Ham and Manchester United. Is that no fee like a reading lucky game love this game. I love this game because you've got this club in crisis going to aside that you would if -ssume that they should handle, but it's a road game in what will certainly be a hostile environment. I'm really excited to see if west hammer just up for this to try to just slight sense they, you can sense the blood in the water right now with net gesture United, and also have they found their formula. Like we think they may have over the last two games, four points against against the win against win. Again, the draw against Chelsea deco Deccan Royce in the if Deccan Royces a good game against Manchester United. We've lost him forever. Saturday, ten AM Everton and Fulham in a game that will have the attention. I'm sure of many American. The American Darby I did want to mention. Speaking of which for Fulham, Luca dilatory of America scored a goal for phone twenty year old. Prosper is first game forever. Yeah, so something to keep an eye on there and Saturday, twelve thirty the rematch Chelsea and Liverpool is the the setting changes they go back to Stamford Bridge? Yes, I think is feels really suddenly important. Always going to be important, but not suddenly it all. This was the one. Everyone's got, definitely because it's the first acid test of of championship credential, Liverpool. That's it, right. I don't think there's any pressure on. Sorry. I really don't think so. I agree. And he's kind of done that to himself on that to himself. Some, you know, he's also done it by having a good start beating teams. He should have beaten, right, and it helps when he gives press conference and saying, we're still a year away, we can't be judged yet. So he's kind of like smartly bought himself. Sometime chances, he'll go on the nicotine patches. I wonder. I mean, he's he should. He's just putting this what appears to be the of a cigarette in his mouth. Sometimes you just need that. I don't know. I've never been a remember the days of says, Manati on the on. The sideline are are Syria Tuygan's when I first started watching Syria, tiny games, there would be some grizzled manager wearing a fabulous suf- in a dugout in some stadium, initially puffing away on the cigarette and lollygag Saturday to forty five rail Madrid and athletic. Oh Madrid, the Madrid, Darby at the burn abou- JJ. Something happened yesterday that hadn't happened in LA Liga's since two thousand fifteen? Yeah. Both teams lost in the same match the same round of Lalita. Yeah. Now we're Celona an Ramadorai. I watched the second half of Madrid severe because I had to June in at halftime. When there were three nil down unbelievable. They played three across midfield and a severe went for five, and they were outnumbered known the second half. It was a turning point. An brilliant goal by module was ruled out for off site, and I think at three one they they wore pouring forward bay also had a shot saved by Vassilev brilliant save by the keeper. So they did create chances in the second half, but that first half was just a train wreck and did not see Bacelona. But I lost. They, they lost as well and then MLS quickly, Sunday one o'clock PM the red bulls and Atlanta, United f, c, red bull still never lost to Atlanta to Owen. One has out beat WP will not have Bradley wright-phillips nil. Nil was the last time. These two met. The one thing that I'm curious about for the red bulls, we all know about the the high scoring nature of Atlanta. The rebels were coming off back to back games in which they allow three goals, which is not something that your customers seeing with them. But last week and against Toronto, they got out with with shutout to know victory, a much needed one. So I'll be curious to see which red bull side shows up for game against the very, very high powered attack. That's and there is a lot of stay care with the supporter shield, the rebels, four points back. If they lose this game, it you almost don't see any way back. But if they win it, it's feels like it's completely up for grabs. Also while I have you here and I know you're worried about time time is huge thing. The swirling rumors surrounding Totta Martino leaving Atlanta for the Mexico job. That is the backdrop to this game. It's gonna somewhere. Jeff, Carlisle is sitting right now saying, I told you US soccer, you should have gotten on that, and now you're gonna lose them to your biggest rival and you're gonna regret it. I'm guessing that that's what Jeff saying. But I just know Jeff has been Jeff isn't quite as preachy as you since the day Uragan was fired, Jeff has been kind of, I don't wanna say championing, Tom Martino, but he has raised him multiple times on this podcast as I guess, guy that would be one of his top candidates. And I talked about it a few weeks ago as well. He kind of checks every box. He's leaving what is quite a comfortable scenario in Atlanta for him to take on the Mexico, JAL dron of Mexico. I'll tell you the must be some wedge money involved in that. I would. I would expect big money, but it looked Mexico's a big job, but but it's a picture. Of course, but international football doesn't generally pay huge amounts of money except in a few cases, the United was men's national team, the Republic of Ireland for some reason, an England that would be interesting. You're, that's a good call by you to keep an eye on that. So there you go. That is our show for the week. I, I mean a show that featured. Caravelle cop a conversation about three mid to low table sides and US open Cup final that was dull and drat patient final. I think this show was still a solid performance by you. And I, yes, I think it was and we also go over some early bickering. Look, I have no problem with you now that's speaking for me and me alone because I've seen the look on your face at various points over the last hour. But you know, what can I do? I'd love to put it to the people. I think they should at least get to hear what I had planned. The kind of little musical note. They should at least get to hear it. You couldn't even do that. I'm not saying that it won't. It was. I'm just saying that the randomness of it will leave some people being like, wait, why? Why did I? What was that? They ready? Well, what happens demand one, I, if footballing on next week. I know I do it. No, no, no, I won't more than that. Now I won't one way to catch phrases. 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Liverpool Still UCL Favorites?

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Liverpool Still UCL Favorites?

"Walgreens later they should have. Espn Thomas on my Craig. Burley your including The Lebron with both joining us a bit later onto a flight to my exciting game between Valencia and Chelsea will start with the defending champions in the Champions League Liverpool Liverpool one Napoli. One is our finished at Anfield. What it means is that Liverpool theoretically could still not qualify for cavs stages? It will go down to that final final game away again. Souls Beg if Seoul spoke win by to go launch and then Liverpool rope elite. Of course that given Napoli will be gained on the final day before the game. Shall we stevie not to be. Of course I would lead for much of it. Big Deal that once again limp accompanied. Napoli have you show this game seriously. But it'd been a boxing match the stock. I mean there was only one team going forward. I mean you talk about just the plane on the break. I'm listening to people saying that you know he's he's tactic. Spot on one of these times was to get everybody bearing the ball. FAIRYHOUSE for your goal. Then he's thanks. Paul Liverpool just couldn't bring them down in fact the two goals the goal that Napoli. Aw shoot him with a full on the half lane eastbound Van Dyke no question you also was in my opinion of Sade and Liverpool's goal while should astute either listen to the what I saw on the TV show the lane it was uh-huh regarding liberal Gore was was a foul by right so listen both goals wrong but it can. This was this is on the scene. I I'm I'm not. I'm not taking in the Mickey. Then show me. When I was watching the game he showed it? Just you just seen a lane. So they saw the line it was side they thought would just give the go anyway. Multi beefier view like stupid and nor free kick in a half wheeling really doesn't late so who is talking about starting fill bucks shoot roped. He's not here to defend himself back on. Shortly it can defend themselves. He was talking about at the end of wrapping up. Stop the Liverpool full box Alexander. Donald was on the bench. Should not get apart for the goal which you can debate old there. I mean there's no consistency because last night and yesterday in the Real Madrid game yeah. PSG goal was shot from the halfway light. Clearly mountains ten to find like there's no concessions here with the officials but let's be frank allison apart for that. COULD PAJAMAS ON. It was one way traffic. We know as I afraid. I'll look into that. We can in the fall stop was they wanted to come and defend. That was the plot and then back with the dead but it was watching a real law league team going Tier Beggar team and it was just so it was. It wasn't a great space but it was at this point for but here's the thing for Napoli's perspective. I understand that this is not the way they want to play. Ideally Napoli's a team. I'm that we think of US Open and attacking but if you do that against Liverpool at Anfield well more than likely you're gonNA get destroyed because they are better at doing lean that then you are and so. I don't know how many choices we had a team for Angelo di to sort out and figure out defensively what he wanted to do. Because let's be honest honest. You can't just match Liverpool men for men and say you know what we're going to run with you back and forth and you do that you you might as well give away the three point because it's not going to happen for you if you're not believe so they gave themselves. It's an opportunity and if it's not for a goal from coming from a very unlikely place in day and loving they get out of here with a one nothing there through the next round. So I understand this frustrating to Jeanne Napoli playing like this but I also understand. This is the only way that they were GonNa win. The Game Live for the best team. Champions me I I guess. Yeah if somebody said to you if you were all the coach. He's still the Champions League. And you said the question was. Where's the last place you want to go right now? The infield against so the would be yes however the best team in the Champions League. It's not into the next round just yet So there VR some inconsistencies with this team that have been very clear and apparent and champions week and we can all say. Well they get their resold bail. They'll be fine there'd be moments in which they haven't been fine especially that away leg at Napoli where they didn't look so great and so for me Liverpool yes. They are among among the very best. But there's room for improvement for this team. I know it's crazy to say given the success that they've had this year in Champions League but I still think that that this is a team that that can be better than what they have been in the competition. It tends but that's tough to play against. Honestly you can tell. I mean for people who say well. This was tactics tactics. And I'm not talking about the role. Just as soon as a generalization you will you will have space cadet. They said well. This was a Mazda as tough to play against naught ticks when you could attain sex across the bike lane the rest in front at times you know even from and for any team last year with Barcelona Finke come into if it was leon the play in France Frans and they had an incredible incredible possession but could could esteem Donna. Leon a might wrong because it doesn't matter who you've got teams and that is so difficult to play through when there's no gaps even when you've got the kind of players Liverpool boss Lorna Eto have and and so so therefore. I think it's hard to gauge. When a team comes and sets and like that because then doesn't become much of a spectacle it becomes a procession just trying to break down? I Live for qualify. Any problems listen. I wouldn't see it without any problems. The the have been question marks against them away from all not not just this year but last year you know the scrape through the wash shoot as well. Yeah but seriously put a panel and Liverpool losing two nil. I'm I'm not against Salisbury cells. have to go for it. I mean maybe that's kind of Ali sin if you go for against Liverpool School Look Goals. Look there's no the easiest game to go away in because they are not abide site the Big Holland Up Front Beg Threat scored goals holds and I think the goal just called the fitness goals gorgeous view is levick pill off the gas so not the old new way lever pill. Don't get a result from me. As if the night they have a good night they win the game the go through meanwhile grew it was awesome and against Borussia Dortmund's. They can now Alibaba with the win by three goals so on qualify for the knockout stages. It's GonNa be fascinating to see who will join them. Interact the three one win away against Prague move up to second on the final day into a home against Barcelona it might be a passerby side. Meanwhile for Dortmund they take on inter better head-to-head between the two teams Fast showy messy. Say Yeah Yeah. He's great. He had one of those days to me. Yes he did and one of those days when he was on touchable and everything that that he was able to see out on the field was very clear for him and not clear for everybody else and so his movement with the ball movement without the ball his vision his passing to finish and everything was there for a limited messy. If you're in Barcelona Fan you're happy happy about the fact that you get three goals from three different people and that would be messy and that would be swat is yes. Of course Anton Grief Who let's not forget. The start of the game comes on because than and Bill Gates injure on the field and for the first time this year that I can remember. He actually stayed on that left. Hand side showed some sort of disciplined to where he found a space that we're there for him because MRI was so brilliant tonight and one message play like this is going to track attention so everybody would say Spain Attention Angelina. Message that ball for the third goal on Greece when it's Blake because Greece. My time has run. Well he hasn't been able to do that with any sort of this and see we also today make tactical bill adjustment. He went from the four three three two more of a four four two. We're actually Greece man. Even when he came on the field helping out defensively. Maybe that's to make up for someone like about lettuce system that they have out of the midfield and maybe it's just because he's trying to find some answers there are some issues on is still a vulnerable team. But today if if you're about sitting on a fan you're happy you're excited because maybe you showed wipe the future can look like and listen fathered those days where he was playing in Barcelona of two thousand eleven. Because you went into the game freight and He's team selection. Brits Will Jane San Joel and it wasn't until it. It was game over and too late that it puts the lakes assign show and says not been playing watch pretty puts them on and all of a sudden bustle and I are under low oppression. Shanzer schools a great goal. Then they'll mix the great save onto the crossbar but all of a sudden. They're under pressure and as a pressure. You felt that if they had gone more positively maybe they would negate somebody messy brilliance because they allowed bacelona to dominate the game. After the first period we're started well then dominated Suarez messy combination and there was no real coming back from that. It's almost going to retire enough going to be fairly how it could have been over. The bump messy and Suarez must've been lately I saw because the movement was frightened. The to them Lincoln up. That'd be capably old school age. Who these two? I mean just now for hormone another part of that. I don't quite understand. Talk about their approach. Fine they're going to be defensive. Okay then why are you trying to play out of their bat. Why the pressure one on top of you and you? Oh you know what I'm not from here. I'm just going to split passes. We think you're playing against. And where do you think you're playing. Why didn't you clear it for and then you try to go pressure over there and then forced? I wanted to mistakes instead. They're giving the ball away to west. I want him bad areas. I'm from their messy. So I'd Greece Monday to go. But if you WANNA be defensive I mean he's is trying to do something. You're not very good okay. NAP leader though but not play a varsity some good defenders right and the clears that can do that. There's not really a style but the British Dorman really say out to play that way and have never tried to play on the less manager and therefore so you just completely completely changing the mindset to go a time when I seen a little bit vulnerable mean meanwhile big win for Inter one now then. Prompt got the equaliser. You think they could be in trouble here. A huge goal for Lucon a good partnership litter and Martinez Upfront Helix sensational huge. Google Doc. You against against possible come on. Hey this is what you want into the schorling. He hey go in a game which takes whether or not they're going to be in the knockout stages. Okay what's outstanding tonight. He he was and he dominated and yes it was lawyer prior but his physical ability and the strength and the power and running by people and taking on people and I have to say the best. Play Ed Lukaku. had tonight wasn't even cool. Is the assistant out that in the third goal was beautiful outside of the foot with class and everything. Well Tom and defendants. I don't think it. Hey Look at you. He was great tonight. I WANNA take in intern. Ju I'm going to say more Inter doesn't beat. Barcelona really won't be Real Barcelona. I don't think intervenes Barcelona. When you think into entities possibly yeah an caucus-goers and you'll say yes goes went? Dobermans are going through to get it done. It's GonNa be fascinating to see how the sixth round of matches a place. Just remind you if you have missing show you can download all daily podcasts available over on the website. Your home is important. That's twice gyco helps make it easy to save on Homeowner's insurance because home is more than just a place home is where you curl up on the couch in a fetal position and cry at cheesy movies. Even though you've I've seen them a thousand times and have all the lines memorized and also you with me. You the GEICO. No Insurance Agency could help. Protect the tear-filled comfort zone. You Call Home Call Geico and see how easy it is to switch and save on Homeowner's insurance still all to play for in Group H after today's matches what it came Stein Valencia to Chelsea to Not a bad result for Chelsea you would expect expect them to be live on the final round of matches which would see them qualify. And then it's all about I. Axe Against Valencia. Valencia needing needing a win away. You would suggest keep their hopes alive of qualifying for the knockout stages. Let's talk show Chelsea Games. Welcome in Frank. leboeuf pressure is saved by the bowel reunion. Looking at this match it was. It was brilliant from a neutral point of view from a defendant. A nightmare wasn't it Ah Yes exactly. It was fun to watch. But it's true that it's fun to watch because we so many mistakes from as you said the defenders but also because all the people at front who are very busy especially side when you see Maxi Gomez seeing nobody could Miss Rodrigo also at the end of the of the game so we say it's a lucky Chelsea who draw a twas verse fringe which gave me the fact where where I would say that. Nobody should an kind of experience of big chimpanzee. It was like a cup game like like you go for it. You don't think about what can happen. And as soon as Chelsea the lead to one did very very deep the gods panel chicken then I got the equalities study due to attack again finish to with the beaches for three golden and you say Wab that was a hell of a game but at the end of the day. It wasn't a perfect game as you said as a defender but also when you a little bit of a specialist and you want to analyze everything lots of lack of consistency in the game. Lots of mistakes defensively and people are very very clumsy at up front so it's like a basketball game wasn't one meal around in the in the moment on the frontline father and I think the fans are quite enjoying it as a free flow in about defensively given goes away. Says it's a concern that she's approach made some changes again tonight so he was able to shuffle again. You've got some of the youngsters those playing well and getting some game. Good expedients young James in the right back position a listen made a wonderful save. From Abraham I mean really instinctive. It was a great game and ultimately I mean is jokes possession which is home to her the away on the road editor and and stage in its hands. It's as simple as up. I don't even kill him. Chelsea what to try and be calm and composed ooh and very tactical. I think you would lose lose something by the way they play the go forward. We the GETTMAN forward. Unfortunately what comes with that as being vulnerable. Unless you've got fantastic defend those in right now. Don't have fun you talk about being vulnerable. I mean the chances that frank just alluded to talk about the end to win in the hit. The ball comes across his body. It is clearly clearly for your right foot. Just put you right foot. They're all you have to do is for that ball to hit you somewhere tours. Goal and you're GONNA goal instead. He's going across with his left foot. And it's just you would think a higher quality of finish at this level and he just. This is an Spanish International. By the way this is guys that just walked the the team and so you assume that it would be able to put this chances away. We've all what I saw. Today is reasons as to why both teams even if they advance in this competition. They're going nowhere in this competition because you have to defend better because you have to be more organized and in the case of Chelsea and I know he made a penalty kick safe today. KIP HAS TO BE BETTER I. I turned the patriot. This I don't think this guy is for real too many goals and too many key moments and too many of those are two soft at least regal made contact even host the Chelsea game for. Yes yes yes I mean I I watched Dalil I xe a team of the group. They've showed many many strengths and qualities. But I think Chelsea will win against Leland and we'd go through and with a on the future of the club and in the chimpanzees season they would have to be much much better to to to go far. Well I guess it's a really a good thing that they get out of the the group stages but I think they could be a little bit more consistent in at some point but I finally understand that I. I don't think there is any expectations chokes. This year to go I think anything they get outside the group stages born transfer bon young manager. You're young players lost the best player around Madrid. Okay pulled out a relatively comfortable group. You look at some of the other ones but still have to get the the job done which the probably will. And then it's a bonus. I care because as for all the problems initials vodka changes have been made the run into that she saw pushed especially inexperienced drove for some of these plays meanwhile funding account wide open. What happened in Group Group G Today massive comeback for live Seca they were losing to nail but managed to get back to to that puts them talk of the group Zenit and Leon battling it out to finish second and join them in the knockout stages? Frank texting everyone yesterday. Saying I told you so name I was GonNa saw on the bench. What's been the reaction in Paris too that to to joy against Real Madrid? Well the fact that Nemo was on the bench he was only fear. I think for the for the fans for the even the details talent especially east. Because I think Nimmo's just came back from injury was in very good against Lille the game before that game gets Real Madrid and and during the game I mean name came on but we didn't see him as best. I think he has to work harder now to make sure that he's going to come back to his best and he was as bad as his teammates. I will say maybe first half with we had some satisfaction but what about Cardi competing inexistent and I was very disappointed. De Maya de Maya was the best player of the best players embarrassment for the past year and we didn't see him yesterday. It was disappointed result of from in the way they had the chance. Tends to shoot the world that the spirits as change compared to last year. But he's not the case. They showed that sometimes they can collapse APPs altogether and Foton the other good keeper and none of us or the ones you could have been a three or four neil so once again looking ahead. Big Picture we're going to see a familiar tale for PSG in the knockout stages somewhere. They're going to drop the ball awfully no I want to. I want to say it was maybe an accident and they're going to react but we saw so many times yesterday. What we saw the past years and we expect it to do not see any more because we saw spirit against Real Madrid the first game the pug depress and also with all the games that we saw that they were having a a big spirit squad spirit but he disappeared yesterday so? I don't know what's going to happen. Because Neymar is back. A easy lead easy the problem. I don't WanNa say a prime because it's a talented player is a fantastic player. And he came to party to win the chimpanzee but they lost something we thought got and how afraid that we might see the same features as some years ago. Not Too far from from last year we'll offering coaching sung. 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I know you are some question marks the beginning of the season but I think he's somebody He's improving his game is knowing the European of football better and I'm very confident that you can become a very attractive player. So he's he's a very good player so far so good attractive. Play an attractive as send. Franks jacket is jackets. Yeah that's a Varsity so jealous guy jacket. We're just saying this each amrican American college check. It's on it's like four. Actually saving Greece. Who Actually High School Not College? Frank just you know I'm just saying why on the story is cool high school where did you get it from friends I bought it myself and in France in France I've no taste what's my friends in. Colleague leading should Liverpool be worried Steve about all these close games down the stretch shoulder. No Sir can again because provides be played yet. Why suppose recently? They've been very close games. I think that's obviously we used to live in all those close games. You make any sense. The question two thousand recently limo of one game it was it was going to do with the Games being played the one that we're close yes. How is that going to affect? Thanks what's going to happen down the road. He's probably miss worried. They keep going kids will miss tweets. Isn't they. It doesn't make sense. You try to work out with a question is calm because the Collagen. I'm just trying to figure out okay. We'll now quitting figure out. Of course you won't. Have you ever been like they come and just the whole walk out. Let's see I know this slum whoa smelling the roof klopp insists on playing Joe Gomez at right back. Stevie its natural position centreback Thanksgiving Alexandra Oblique Alexander who it was that. No one knows more about say rude but what else can arrest want. Welsh won't hasn't got another right. James Milner Henderson as he did. So yeah what was the most jaw dropping gold Daniel Vassos. It was dropping. Its get by getting his arms up and he's crossing the bolt by the way. It was a cruel chimney. Hi How can seriously I agree with you. Can you think he meant the no way. Next question Russian gone does stevie regrets saying Lukaku is not good enough to play at a top level club back and see something that would make me change my mind school today. Didn't they against big go against go against it. Go thank you Pele Right. All these goals scored one in the Champions League Slavia Prague uh-huh and all these other goal was ever against swallow Leche Alexia Brescia Torino. Milan Jolly Milan. Uh mid-table play evinces. How did he do not identical legal? Because it's so there you go fill this The the answer is he hasn't done anything yet for me to change my money. You ever change your mind. Yeah I I tell you what. Unfolds hasn't Jason's heck favor apartments play back in the day. Frank was a team that you enjoy going up against Enjoy Roy I love playing against Liverpool because of the atmosphere and was playing against Robbie Fowler. I think he was a very interesting player. too so it was always a a a chess game against him so always a pleasure. Even he fought some hot time. It was a it was pleasant to to play against you. Have a favorite opponents theory. Always did well against Newcastle. And we always. We always enjoy them against today and we always a little spell that will spell where we kept getting drawn against north. I'm focused EFI Cup. We'll the SHOULDA SHOULDA jammed the job. We will not because every time we take propagate we would we be that'd be single chip Beck. Thank you still gonNA hold trump. Yeah Chelsea had quite a good record old trough of the always. He always were allowed to plan. Perfect pitch can go and play. It's tough did you have a school now. We wasn't there one of the front was there. We wanted a four year fight on them bottled Nicole addition ten going away to the New England Revolution Nichols New England Revolution. Just for the abuse. No I usually did well against the new. Aw One couple of finals against during a rebel. So I'm just saying this true Detroit to do but that's what he would say. That's not the case file was unique. Get too busy line road there you go. I was doing my job doing my job. A final tweet. The obviously pack after going down to the birth of your grandchild spoiled. Go now he's a boy thank Soglo. What's it's his name to read so they should go? Oh read greet many grandkids. Is that before. Aw Your GonNa Roll. We'll say full one frank. Have you gotten any grand gates now. It might have just got married. She's twenty nine so very soon I guess how would you. How will you work granddad? I'm not ready for it. Refused them to call me. Granddad let me Frank Wife. uh-huh work from that then Thanksgiving tomorrow but we will have a show. 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69 - Liverpool Are Champions of Europe

The 2 Robbies

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69 - Liverpool Are Champions of Europe

"Let's talk about six baby next dog about you and we talk about all the good things and bad things that may be. Let's talk about six doc. Hello and welcome to the two roby's podcast with me. Robbie muster and him robbie earle liverpool football club have won the author champions league twenty eighteen twenty nine thousand nine season <hes> reveal <hes> sure it was a great game but it's a result and it was all the matters into the poor got the result to nil in madrid spain just gives you i kind of general impressions rob of this <hes> all english much up after say any it doesn't particularly give me any pleasure was disappointing final when you think of what competition been issue champions bling being champions league has been magnificent with what he's given us. What is true is the drama the exam do you think the semi finals and liverpool game into passed balls luna and spurs game it kind of felt it was a final robert if to emulate teams and i think the hope think my hope was that we i saw high intensity. Maybe a little bit in two teams who flew to our possession. You can really create make things happen and don't be in a little bit like like one of those games rob. It's nearly kickoff noon kickoff in everybody's not quite ready for didn't you exp- i. I mean with two teams. The it's so huge for both football clubs suit teams that know each other inside out. They've played it so many times absolutely. Didn't we expected to did you did you if if we had a really good game of football that's a massive bonus. It's such a big game is so important it. It was always going to be safe and knows take any risks. No one's going to fly forward knows going to talk turn to anything kind of a spectacular to try and really influence in case there because they make a mistake. It's very cagey very tight a little bit nervy okay totally. Get your point although i guess i'd better x._p. Maybe big expectation. Maybe monte can be that once but i have to say and the point you make about the nervousness and the way the game and what was it steak. Do you not think goal or goal opportunity. Apparently given up to twenty twenty six seconds changes the whole dynamic of again yeah well it does it does which will talk about in a second <hes> but that's that's august a longtime rob for for everybody enjoy did it change liverpool agility to kalisz just a little bit of edge out of liverpool to the point where we'll no. There was a tentative <hes> performance about pool. There didn't used to c. J. almost sued them off a little bit and show only specs settling transit possession spurs sitting the early seat v eight minutes. A game batted possession. I mean we we watched it together. Yeah i remember looking to you insane because spurs came on strong after that towards half time and send you the liberal gocha sop planning because it gets you're right. They didn't stop playing again. They would on the front to attack. They didn't i guess they didn't need to attack an and it made a different kind of natural position for them the way that they put your game after that the penalty rosca to that because happened really quickly in the game and let me just say this first of all now i know it was on june first and i know that there's a new bunch of interpretations and rules are coming in but they're not they would in place for this game missile. Something twenty-fifth venison competitions was so this isn't the new set of interpretations for humboldt so back took as it always has been and i think we agree on this. We've got about of course <hes> i. It's it's very harsh. Okay right because we saw the ball deflects off the chest the cut of the work the pictorial if you like then straight onto the arm and his arm in in his army's out he's pointing circus pointing and it kinda catches him on the underneath of the just after the chest broad. We're missing something because the referee was right there at the v._a. Are look look. Look like this yeah for for potential panicking etcetera etcetera they will still handball. So what are we missing. We're missing is that european into the game is an and let's just be totally frank about outlive if the ball hits any paul of janda loam in the penalty box. It's going to be a pound cake set forget that he's chessel. Forget that that he was pointing forget that he's not delib. Forget that he might is not making himself bigoted to detect thing if if the ball hits your own inside the penalty box here enjoy your in trouble based on what we must remember the referee didn't even go look wasn't one of those where i think one of the very show hey hon john so is your policy decision comes onto valley is hunt at the moment doesn't seem to montreal to the a new interpretation to see what's going on and there is we'll get into. I guess next robert now a free kick against humble can be accidental and they give some bigger and i guess that he was making south big but in the next saw bunch of interpretations where it's not going to be given even his accidental title is if it comes under the part your body if you play the ball onto your arm then it's not going to be a ham boss. I know this is not. I just don't know where those guys in the game thought uh-huh benefit to replace the fat and they must have decided she's going to help me. I'm telling you i'm not and if i was playing in the game. I'll do the same kicking the ball straight. This is what we said. Okay say penalty cake and interpretations nations. It is if you're going to see more without defenders with the huns beyond the world before because any poll that took john is is going to be approved which is incredibly unnatural to play with your arms tony game changer. I hate it. Can are we just rewind five years rob and go back to the very basic element of this law is going to be too liberal so it's your arm when you unless your arm is spread spread out and it's pretty obvious you're making south pick. It's just accidentally continued doesn't go pat rubbing fortune way. Maybe are you being our listeners and people who watch a game going to have to be sought to be more broadly with our thoughts and look at these missing something that we must be missing. Here's something that european fully is dictated that that was clear to the referee wasn't even any doubt the people in vail clear. So why are we going. How's he giving that. He's coming off the cuff. Chesting must be something they don't kind of look for an and basically what was on its way out 'cause he's pointing but that's about it was way out uh-huh and the ball pretty much similar tena sleep. We just flicked off his hands. You undesired n natural position as away from his body. <hes> i'm and it wasn't it wasn't a caen onto the arm. It was very close to his his upper chest or whatever so they gave him twenty six minutes. <hes> solid takes finds a bucket in that. Do you think he really game in some way did he. Did he think it ruins games it it. It certainly changed the flow of the game. You're right. I live a poor changed the way that they they were playing after that spurs bit more on the front foot. <hes> you know as football isn't it is football. You've gotta find a way one down. You got bags. You gotta lotta time. Impose a live report have to find a way to why the continue to attack which i normally to all it did in this game defended very well defended very well. I'm we know that that's what's changed about liberal from this season two previous seasons. The goalkeeper situation of course is very different now a year ago at against rao madrid with lost <hes> ellison tossed goalkeeper but i thought is back for a liberal post defensive kind of abilities will walk warmness wanted whatever i wrote the same one of the lines that game was won by liverpool's defending pataki talk his were okay <hes> and the defense excellent <hes> go keep an and that's what liverpool is got now. I've gotten to what they had isn't it so oh a single goal so from last year or previous seasons. You still think they might conceive now. That's different so they come. We will know they can win. In different ways they can play counterattack football which i thought they were going to get another gold lakes are on but i thought we see more of that with more threaten more opportunities for them. It didn't really until the the second goal goes in <hes> no defensively very strong visual van dyke rolls royce. I mean just just cruising value vonda continue name. I mean whatever you pay for them. I mean there was one situation melvyn in the game on and maybe a little boy you bought it that human sauna was going on one of those human sons where we came through and he's on the last month with one day. Yeah i can vandyke showed presence. He's strength across the line if sante just body tackle and was just playing put out for a corner kick. It didn't take any any risk and you wanna remind me my husband went well drilling defending analysis and it took me to the same team member. The one was soaker currency so coast china plate. I'm field and cut off twice the altuve defending the art of defending and there's always think i was looking at maybe what we see next year cost. You also need something like oh. Costume on united needs something you know. Liverpool need something light out. Maybe two three three years ago they went and spent on he was there he was playing in l._a. To the to the risk and look there was again. There's a calmness about him. Rob the. I find most impressive so we know his quick. We know he's good on the ball. We know he's a giant can headboard put the way does it almost plane within himself and godless exists very calm and his makeup whatsoever waiver. <hes> and i thought like you yeah couple of situations where they needed him. He was fantastic back there and the whole but four runs play tight year. I mean just very good given given the spurs lineup. Should we talk about spurs line gets his because that was interesting yeah we we debated last pre the game who must all links together asto added diet obviously trust in him that i thought he would go with tyrod. Do we both thought that came would start. We both thought well. I certainly thought might be the guy on the bench that deli in and out of play because of what they did you think what did you think of the way the puts them up kind of fall to three one. Yeah surprise moreover would be in the eleven so i have to say i. If if you're going to drop warn it will be so. I just thought that maybe he can come off the bench. I in a different way. I've just been more hot chicken and all the gone on <hes> he was he was going to be pulling hurricane still yeah <hes> well the game the performance the result show did he was a wrong decision and it was a wrong long decision. First off completed four passes dribble. Personnel defended had shots on goal. Hurry came was it just wasn't ready it wasn't he was pad and i was trying to think what's the right analogy now. This is <hes> do i. If it was like to padding the turkey for thanksgiving they go ready to play in a big game but he wasn't under percent was time she couldn't jump properly getting beat by these times he was going into challenges challenges and and kind of hof going. He wasn't the right how he can now. They've got honey cain entertainment absolutely no why if spurs create four or five chances going across elsa box inside the six yard box yearbooks hurricane is still good enough and as the intelligence and intellect to get on the end of them is he one of those this call be though is he one of those being of chances. I didn't think spurs creating johnson four hurricane to get the goals he would get. I still think seventy percent cain with spurs rattling bulls across the six-yard. He still knows i'll pick somebody off. Because that's a movement you could say what seventy seventy percent when you send. It shouldn't start at the spurs. The spurs didn't make those chances for him at seventy percent so i'd rather go one hundred percent mura umbrellas v seventy eighty percent cain based on what spurs didn't do with possession of the ball. <hes> harry links was the other decision in jail. The i mean i think is a brilliant play. I gotta yes i. I know he's not up a defensive not particularly strong. Maybe physically different doesn't differently and he cuts out a lot of stuff is such a nice football and lee always wants to take the ball and try and play <hes> so i mean that was good. I thought him to play alongside mussa. Soco in the middle of the park. <hes> was good for spurs. Put never never really her liverpool enough rob you know that midfield of of liverpool's with arena plan by the way so quickly on midfield that was where we we weren't quite sure no one that's gonna apply and really trust me now any for the middle so that henson's got a little bit more licensed tends to go and make things happen fills a nicer blend with henderson four get ford other than the james milner. That's the being shooting into that defensive committee. You know it could be the fernandina couldn't he can play defensively understands that roadblock things off. We saw against paul slow now important. He wasn't i mean the big step up for him. In next season could build onto figuring bad things. I mean just the general game again. Whoa whoa spurs lacked something. Rob didn't name what what is it that a lacking right now in that particular game that they couldn't hurt liverpool is it just defending was was good and there are grew system and the spurs all kind of doing as well as they can spurs to win the chums league. We talk again. We talked about it delhi to be on the great. Deli make him on owns one christian eggs in pulling that good play hard very fast and they weren't somewhere fit sumo zuma below the best. That's all they know is good as liverpool no before the game he said to and favors favors and we said for spurs to win the game. They have these guys that play their very best and they didn't and you throw nari hurricane. I think we we thought like if he's anywhere near play don't claiming and they lose you. Guys are aka and if you do play many loose so i'm not really blaming <unk>. You're making this system taints. It's a gamble he took it didn't work out and how sorry came was was seventy percent and wasn't able to influence the game in the way he would want. James mellanby left out. It's kind of sad to sell that goal off gables saad absolutely perfect money includes writing to do the right thing to do. Bring him on the pitch did a again just thinking about the money energy you can help him what he did in terms of subs i mean he's co everything pretty much roy robin. I mean well. Sometimes you raise an eyebrow when he makes substitution of course roberto kominos be such an important player and he was the guy that he wanted he was started the game and then he came out kind of early. An iraqi goes in again and another. I don't donate through the but let's just let's just have a little pause on that. One for me now came in for liverpool. He was wanting to be missing. I knew the loss of these in season and fair enough to stall probably not proper much fit sixty minutes sixty minutes. He's monje goes okay. We've had to give me an hour off. Yuko hurricane. You can club same position all ninety minutes of the game. It does just punch make those symbols similar calls that club would make he is hurricane his guy does he get nominated by the hurricanes captain as one of ours. Does zeno make some of those kind of cools. We asked him for lucas more early than when i'm talking about changes to make a bit <hes> yeah go make harry gives an hour gray was still intact. Nail lucas more going go and run and run. Give him a different problem. Linda we saw before the game the hurricane you know if he's if he's real close to finish your play but but you still saw with madison van dyke quick runs in behind behind shop plaza of more son ma you know might have been a better chance of them of upset and labor force for hank running between them and eddie stall in an and when you realize maybe the cane thing isn't working gosh when i'm thinking dude earlier. Give yourself a chance of something else don't you you know as much as we love. Harry loves his more than than we've given praise. It's not days not he's day in the team. Gets try and get some. There's no guarantee we just think give multiple and on daca different kind of problem because they would cope with. What do you think tina will have some regrets on it. Then the of course off off the game. He makes decisions that you feel that moment in time to think he'll continue doing something different. I think all good managers would do that. I think all good minds. You say wounded if i if i get it's mostly i wanted to play howard looking back now and not be paul. Always learning not might be part of what we say is going to the next day then again. I'm not saying he'd vodka should still do look more. Now is writing to donny k well. I have an issue is to leave. Canaan full the whole ninety minutes and when lucas more might believe something special we will go on and kind of talk bigger picture both the football clubs rob <hes> but just a quick kind of thought about the <hes> knockout phase and how great is being no semi finals and that week of warm permanent stuff as well of course it was amazing about time is this is this been one of the best phase we've seen. We have being extremely ainley. Lucky of what. We've seen this you inch into football. We've seen a premier league rob <unk> going toe to toe playing some outstanding football putting numbers that we've not seen before and we wait for many weeks when we go to europe and europa league just the same unless chelsea and also both got off see chelsea getting the win some of the things we've seen in champions league football you could not make up you could not michael barcelona being three goals on the pool and never pull keeping clean inch sheet scoring the goals and lino massi in spy but you kind of believe <hes> <hes> you cannot believe last spurs were against iox and with the last kick of a game lucas more finding a way to get them sued i mean you you cannot script out in hollywood and people go well. It's stupid winnick's. He's never going to happen. I mean even going back a little bit. Further around sixteen i xe beaten defending champ is religion five three on aggregate run out of scoring hat trick leads. You bet despite spike from tune no deficit against <hes>. Let's go madrid united p._s. G with the three one win in paris with the help of v._r. So it's not just these two. It's been a brilliant alien knockout phase for different teams and different phase of the competition west well. It's been great with european football so we've seen some of the older great. Let's maybe not being the by munich's. You've anticipated the boss. London's not quite in the past. We've seen some young new ghanzi i._x.'s will we've seen the english teams luke block that powering box live pools th this is the manchester city. The whole mix of european football is really interesting place but we all know is a cyclical cyclical football teams with renaldo. Can it'll be moving on you. Don't messy still been incredible but is that team. Embalm unix kind of going through transition position is it. It's a period right now. In european football where english teams could continue to do well because of others are going through transition. We'll we'll see what was it. Dan visit ram. Legitimate show is gonna be a ton of money to rebuild. That team might take a little bit of time boston a feels like it needs. Some injection of newness somewhere by munich again is thank you look at man city side. This most of them are mid twenties or younger. Liverpool's can't drive with the money that they've got a call spurs as well and it's it's it. Is it going to be a little period now. Where english teams looked dominate the semi final stage onwards for the next couple of years yeah they've they've got the chance for over and what what will see and it'd be interesting football as of keeping hold and and encourage enticing great managers great young coaches into into english football is important as we've seen as we've seen with postino as we seem pap bringing big name players rightagent the right you know some of these top players players these monaco as we've seen in the past who is league and take on another level and we wanna see development of young plays a hurry wing of the world want to see them developing -veloping jacqueline rise and all those quality so it's just a great time for english football break time for european football and degree yeah. We've probably the heart the best <hes> yuping competition with that we certainly jump is league format all right my friend. We'll take a good look at both football clubs of in the the final <hes> and where they go from here but i got some words from one of our sponsors. Don't take a chance of being stranded. Stop by a rally autoparts and get your battery tested. It's free of charge and one of the many services available. If you bought your needs to be replace the professional parts people will help you find the exact battery for your car or truck. Rally auto parts better parts better prices every day. Is it possible to say what is the most satisfying thing about what you've achieved tonight yet no but satisfying. I'm happy for the boys so local you know what people said about a couple of layers of this team and stuff like that jordan henderson ace captain of the champions league winner two thousand nineteen. That's satisfying actually and then then that all these boys admitted to the age of thirty three. I think gum as one of the most so eld very important but i can say again without milley's <hes> dress room dressing room talks before the game with a not non native a two english a non native co-manager <hes>. I think it would not be possible so it's so important all the things what they did. I am doing two weeks how they <hes> lifted them when it had been there but we had little real downs and stuff like that. It's is justin credible so tonight. It's really tonight is really emotional. Most that's that's my main feeling. It's <hes> that overwhelming all that stuff it. It feels really good but i much <hes> common and i thought i would be when it finally happens so <hes> i was not important to me. I really to touch the the the the couple. Whatever i love the pictures when the boys headed lofted winner so a few faces in a stance that was what gave me everything everything i need and <hes> so but tomorrow going to liverpool and having something to celebrate that speak and i'm really looking forward to that okay so those really reflections in cloth have money. I champions league first pizza civil f. a. liverpool and now the thing that stands out for me more than anything else. Both he's a player's money. He loves. He's group plays just a remarkable job over the seasons. Now is three seasons we all three hundred thirteen stomach alison at home just a steady progression <hes> of course the remarkable season that primarily ninety seven points and being behind unite of course months by one point and now winning feels like they deserve they deserve something from the season because they've been so great <hes> where they you know where they go from here and how they try and improve is difficult because it's hard you know i i personally talib who makes them bad. What makes them better. You know she'll just talking. Oh can you talk about the the clear and i don't want to go back to haul berina point my my kind of mitchell salaries on the rope elite at chelsea and deserve to be at the football club and and you can hopefully see where he's trying to take your in club is just a natural fit for this football to due to a person and the money he's now going to be in the rarefied <hes> of an and brandon close to it and and and <hes> we'll go quote close to it. He's gonna have the jurgen klopp flag in the cul de the rest if thanh already rarified lyda and and so many factual but what i think he's doing it is not given liverpool. I was trying to think reenergize is he's got. He's giving it back. It's is football. I did not always giving it. Don't give them because i still think people we grew up in new what level wounds for in the way they were. They getting back to that taught. Why don't i go back now that back back as a superpower but getting his winning twenty league titles isn't it. That's dots will actually get him back his well then that's what but they was such a challenge this season. It's almost the pretty much they're iraq where where they haven't been in the past and now live a poll again is is is one of the very best teams in european football and of course in the premonitions monica's what they want to win next and they have they've made such progression <hes>. I know you're just going to jump in fourth again. Go the ownership join. What a great job. What are what are your. They've boston red sox. World series champions till you get boston yet. Yeah yeah we go in just an ownership and we've talked ownership before for launch podcast robyn how important the ship is and how much the lead us some of these clubs yeah owners that want to win. My city chelsea. Chelsea owner wants to win every single season win something and now he's saying liberal football club. It's such it's such an important factor recruit in the right guys the right football structure realizing realizing there's a different football structure at the club and commercial structure of the football club brilliantly done michael edwards director of football. They're good people in all the good spots <hes> every rose on from that good full people as well. They're up. Just go people good football people who understand what is it in your one hundred nineteen. I i'll just go back to a last podcast too because i think i need to make a point that i was talking to liverpool. Women game how important is trophy was and members of the saints in who could and for the more after about eight mu liverpool the e because now which one about your children about liverpool. You're going to implement towels. You're talking about club. He's tooting fits that with full this. This could be the platform for liverpool now for the next five or six years. If if without ownership with the money with the rot plays bull in the younger replays. I looked through the team of thinking about liverpool now attack <music> from tweeted to die at tons. When will the game additions will come in and prove that you know what democracy role for him defend this team now. Let's define by they love clean sheets like then they used to score goals the intensity with what they complain he mentioned the word cop tools season go with what she's team play james milner his age. His stage was clear with the money he's probably made and and the medals that he's got shouldn't be this only well in your club interesting talking about millions. He said interview after the game like that. He's such an important player that his pre-game dressing room chats with the team is basically incredibly important that he didn't think he could get them one today based on these position if james wasn't doing that so even james miller it didn't start in the game is nice to get a little bit of insight from manager about what goes on in the dressing room who are the leaders and what they do. James mooney is been there done everything i mean. He's he's won a guy to look up to so that that's really important as well. I think it's good to look ahead a little bit too for liverpool. Yeah and you talk about driving desire and the manager we know all that challenging monster city again for next season after experiencing this season an an and and watching mine city win last fourteen games by the way to win the the talk by one point mentally to things mentally you comfort gonna be good to go again and let you know okay revamp reenergize for permanent campaign and on the other side of things. Maybe more important recruitment what what needs to happen. What needs that he needs to happen. What could they should. They do to freshen things to improve roof things in which areas of the team we talked about as his goalkeepers sound so i'm not in bad shape too grateful bucks vandyke karate gomez fair. Yeah not invite shape really good. Maybe you bring a young one. In new. You're going to vote on the twenty three three tight. One not the worst thing that they don't they don't by fooled by alexander ronald complain that yeah. I know what you can do that. It'd be one you know if he stayed sure of. Let's right so you you you can drop in midfield midfield and midfield passing creative falls somewhere along the lines if kevin debris and you can't get the point is and then we know those one off but somebody you can see a possibility you might not have quite all energy and intensity but the shabby alonzo totally agree lou coughing feel three in an ideal balance. Yeah was be fabio. Type type type guy defensive. Thanks guys can play a little bit good on the ball but he reads things. Cut things off. You want to go go go through them. We've seen a threat potentially shabby and undeserved love jerry lonzo the former liberal guy somebody that can play a little bit can get the ball and can dictate and can kepler cutler was over the top. You can slide those born between defenders for those <hes> those brilliant wings on the outside they <hes> tournaments by the way the last year interest head yeah sure whether he can step into that team robin at a good age group in a young twenty at least you he'll be a goal threat technical drive. You can sit and hold on hold on. I'm you can do it there. In great shape a little bit different midfielder correct playmate just gives him a different option yesterday and and you ask the question and onto about confidence in a city. That's just remember couple of fox. They lost one game all season for them to use the seven games. Take three those jewels out there when the tile they've won a champions league that is got to give him the belief that close yeah. Thanks in closing sit. You might think we can talk <hes> front three. The two boys no problem happy grads grape great production yeah for me no strike a- rigi now. It looks like starts going to football club can can they find find somebody rob. Maybe i don't know is it was gonna be a fish for me. No easy that undrivable will is when he's on. He's on but we think of. We've got to start to think of competitions games you need you need to bring light for light quality in his review the mon- come up with some huge goals for them but is he consistently the right guy. We don't know i a lot you idea of a young and so far. Let let's be beyond the scouting system at liverpool has produced for them on on all always profile of play they they they got good agee's they understand my one day might nick home from somewhere in france and in belgium in in in jimmy the mighty one of those players that they can go whoa you can just bring that something to this. No worry the monay or most solemn might wanna try something else somewhere else and be attracted much. It might try and grab a couple of those one. Oh i tell you right now. Rope place the not yet. Give give me eighteen months two years and and things don't quite go jumping but right now whether they are. He's not many places to be in european football. We've gone through it that and it's tough to see how they can improve that team. Playmaking midfield player rob absolutely give you a whole count them somebody. Somebody haven't got somebody go all of the spots you can say why there's there's a cover there yeah that's good age there but in terms on midfield and maybe in those draws roles repeal roles you little playmaker who sees slide zabol food on the philippe katina with eh chauncey you could come back to the football club. No and i hope he does in boston at the black type or more of a midfield. We're starting with just three. He's not working intensity. This thing excellent great play listen great player for great business to get the money did somalis kind of moved on from someone like teela into somebody just under the wait also wrote this team with that manager that makes people better and that work ethic around the the might not think of could really good job. Also we might see the full exposure of the ability. Chamberlain was a great example of that came from also. We'll know who's decent plan pooling in different things right. That's exactly right swollen. Thus what you might see somebody else. We think he's a decent place exactly in any goes in the environment it the club reno cooperative rush them any might take six seven weeks before we saw really blood you live poway but we might just fine when <music> jordan henderson wow lift the trophy interiors afterwards hugging his dad for seemed like five minutes. What a great story sorry. What a great professional. What a great story of of of keep going you know when some some people you're liverpool kind of echelon. Playa laya keeps going keeps driving different <hes> positions that he plays in and why don't we hear from rob a little bit of sound of jordan henderson speaking with with passion <hes> right after the game without the money to this is impossible <hes> go through tough times through seasons while he's doing since he's communist. Football club is unbelievable. No neither please go into sports stronger already here. He's better and such a togetherness in the group create especial dressing room so yeah all all the praise everything goes to the manager manager especially my view as well one that will live forever. You woke up to lift the trophy that emily news pickup. Twice spill talks months. Graham sudas wants stephen steve kerr out now. They're adding united list yeah. You know <hes> like i said before. I'm so proud to be positive for both hope nope long time now. The company is even even more special for me. It means everything to his football. Since i was a kid and then yeah ah i've just tried to give me baxter baton football and help me through tough times. It's been difficult over me korea. I kept going to start this. Team's porn and you have moments like this is what you do it for you. This is the best moment of my life cacophony children the moment and this is one of criminal syndicate and just say thank you to everyone you know especially coming w family kids at home election alba libya and yeah just like it's not about me it's up eight million or our company and lifting the trophy especially of course remain football with read. These plays various always manager and now keep born into well. He's dot the emotion the passion the pride <hes> jordan handed some whereas the yellow captain's armband for liverpool football club in and i was hearing yesterday and meeting phil thompson grains eunice d._v._d. Jordan henderson <unk> for liverpool castle. I mean and the thing about jordan handsome ause and we've we've had the st fine melon at the mike allowing leak play his name up to and then yesterday trump is league final kinda adjoin henderson stumped on it and let me say this is it was down it was early. It was gritty. It was not very fashionable. It was who is going to make sure they got over the line and it was a bit lie. I felt june. Heinsohn brings a little bit of old fashioned. Obey the dressing room. We had back in the day and nevertheless hoffman. Somebody's gonna make sure you've got it and <hes> do. I think that's what you wouldn't henderson being. I think that's an important element of liverpool football club leaders james moon. We talked about being that same guy. <hes> the con con can go back to memories and reasons for success early in his career at different football club some what that takes and we know what it takes accord it takes a ton of ability and skill and everything else i and the money to bring in some of these top players but you need that character you need that that just that determination and that guy that's going to ref people up and make make sure they're not you know every single week to get through <hes> through the premier league champions league so i think i just think it's a good story for jordan. You're right it wasn't it wasn't a game from most solemn samawa and and and to be silky not disappointed when he came up who says it's not about that. It goes by expectations for the game. I didn't expect it didn't disappoint me. That wasn't a great game because what you expect you know. It's it's just wanna is an it's all about the result and that's what it was. Unlivable went on their second goal with difficu- vegas finished a really nice here with his left for inside the post. That'll make it to new and it kind of felt without point rob light that show the better annoy me. Why not get me show me show me show me you can still go on to score another go and they did so totally deserved <hes> ex liverpool and just as we before we transition to spurs robert the bigger picture just again for next season is all about the trump the the premise for liverpool now. Is that the remaining thing that you the club has got to try and focus one hundred percent to bring about <hes> two. He goes from hero worship chew god-like worship when he if he can not primarily tall get now just like pet was saying it might say well you know he's hold it in the league on on a he wants to champions league and i'll have a clock can would wanna wrap it up. Liverpool funds would say and it was a brilliant six european complain for them and fishing. They got something. After the season they had in chase city so hard landing the primarily tile has not been done at liverpool football club has not been done and if you can enclo- delivers it up forever king clocks yeah and you just sense that when is the season kicks off next year that i'm field and stuff. There's going to be dr dr excitement and maybe a play or two to add into it <hes> but this this liver poison going anywhere. This isn't a livable out to strain every scene no to try and win win this for next year. They'll go there in great shape to go on next season's. We'll never never fantastic season we will we'll see some of the hotspur raheel some some of them. Some essays success difficult conflict huge difficult periods kids in he's been plenty written sadden and spoke about the stadium. There are no transfers the reluctance on hurry came the the money's going to be there whether trump plaza they're the these been on that conversation and what she'll decide tournament spur of champions these league football next season guaranteed job don. I <hes> directive season of champions league final think and just think about out some of this and the size of clubs who haven't made it to the final. We've talked about the balsam owners and you've got season by nixon on. They just missed tau on on winning. The champions league fine yep fourth in the premier league success learn about chelsea in the league semifinals absolutely success and the whole football football club is screaming success and achievement one of the best training grounds we've ever been to correct now one of the best stadiums around the world right now rack iraq and everything else and we said this stuff before but it should be reiterated because their budget the the sixth highest we think that the numbers come out and the kind of a year behind the sick like the season before this one's just finished they were the six highest soda to do what they're doing to get that chelsea final in different scenarios that one point after the first three games in the group stages. They kept like conceding late goals. I mean come on our show. We liked god. They've gotta learn to close things out and given city they played so in certain games and lost lost points of because of late goals and still to find a way through with this squad that we set in tom's in the permanent robot panova. The line exhausted exhausted team and to get this far. It's just it was just one hurdle to offer them absolutely and listen. I think for spurs at the moment third place finish in the league is almost as their winning tile. They're not good enough yet to be in the top two positions. They're not there yet rob <hes>. They haven't got the squad. I if they were gonna go for a top two finish. They don't miss softy. Give pavia the competition play weaker teams in domestic cops and not not going in in the champions league unlucky by the way the the the era right now that they've got a great team and you've got these two outstanding yeah. I mean nine eight nine seven points in the primarily this team. You saw say you know they're not good enough. Well oh crikey unlucky timing them because they are good enough to be right at them. Winter permanent title this era got outstanding team and you're gonna make the most of whatever <hes> much snotty going through to most after push on again all smell of issues. You're not supposed to push on again. They got to nail that position and start claw a little back rub. That's a big thing. How do they close the gap between them. Muncie in liverpool. That's the big thing uh-huh how how and if you say three or four years to get where he is in this product now throws as ready to go priming. They've won the champions. League chino's is kind of taken a little bit longer less money last residuals and got himself in an a prime position but th there's a probably twelve nineteen point gap and so how do so in terms of trying to close that gap why we've again hard to improve the best eleven at spurs those who given their salary restraints big-time play that they're not gonna do off of it and then we could also argue the the the team has looked tired this ask the strength of the squad hasn't been good enough to rotate and rescue place so in that regard they could bring in some zoos guava similar. Yeah squad plays the eleven but may being games out them out a little bit so erickson. It's like a proper break cane or delhi or different players draw. Oh and they don't drop off so much. They win games against some of the lowest. Is you manage it that way to close the gap yes of course they love to bring in and find a berlin star player from french french second division to make them a ton better but that's difficult to do that me throw to question john two plays christine alex right contract's up what happens between him and massive massive few weeks. It's a massive months and massive window is such a good player. Let me so one of the daily alley is he was the the weight. I is the upside rally whereas whereas i think it is it's it's. I think it is well. Jelly allie will have to start to show the consistency that to brewing the shows that davidge silver show that position not calling iraqi hind aware i'm saying i i teach very best. Berlin in a different way is is not not quite the deployment with the posse no but he got the energy ruining he brilliant timing goal scoring goals around the ball bringing both the komo's frank lampard aska's nea dot guy who influences zone outweigh and that's between him and the manager to try trying to find that form again was it two seasons ago rob you said eighteen awhile and and i don't know for whatever reason again you you could argue that he shouldn't start that game you could you could throw more and you can rotate in league. Put human son at the top in the the number ten position you rearrange that team came in some ways to be better fix deli on the outside position. I kind of switched to number ten and going outside west sun on the outside. Positional roy moore could've done more of that and then some on the other side so this this ways that you could team up without daily but it does give you that only is a midfield players gaglione fighting him. He's got the physicality is go find. It makes runs. It's just we're not seeing the very best of him right now. Critics and by the way is another important paul. He said you don't want to be letting people because genomics football okay so it's it's obviously this is going to go into his final year where they could lose him on a free so now the next month is when you are the contractor or whether they say right christian you don't i want to sign okay. We can't give any more money. We're gonna have to sell ya but what did you say about liverpool and morton ownership the ownership of spurs football club club hasta now decide which way going all the real deal. Oh they install to look to challenge you. Keep hold 'cause you shall genomics in you. Send a message. We just talked about ten minutes. Liberal christian erickson interest rates have gone well you sal when you best each player hobey chicken about the plays. We're talking about spurs the whole thing as much as any individual and not football club <hes> resonates with with pocchettino. It's interesting all been any after after the game obviously disappointed about his future and and the club's future and this is the response. What can you say for the fans of support you through thick and thin and you keep talking about the future future on obscene. There's been a lot of talk about your future in the background not focused on ahead of this but can you tell the fans that were excited to to lead the future on in the coming seasons. I think it's not a moment now to talk too much <hes> because we can interpret you pretty fenian in differing away. Some people want to be clever to compare me with for and monitored and they know that we are in complete different pressure for imposition on different place by the people want to be more more clever land then they won't do give out albanian john without argon. <hes> you know after five. Don was so clear the grocery so glad i would. I'm vision was amazing and the commitment for our player where mason on broadway the club 'em to play for first time in history are temporally finding but now he's about to take on <hes> on started to ooh james damore him what mine and for shula. We're going to have time to talk now. The only thing that both me a little bit about the interview rob the the question about his future. I would've expected different. Response may be of more. You know you know set off well. Don't say anything now three misconstrued or i mean you've been looking for a manager. Yeah i use right near the reading. She mo tat each of out daniel leave. You almost nudge him. He i'd love aw yeah con totally see my future because it might change correct unless you stop. Give me some improved thing john yeah let while ago see the months maybe six weeks. He's talked about wanting to compete to morning to be kind of happy at the tools to to to be able to give the project yeah is. I still think his future in space futures together. I still think there'll still think these these good things that can harmful mm fistful boko. I'd love him and football club to win a cope to stop pull this who go in the league cup next february lift it put them to bed do show people that you can win the trophy and and it will always need elite club. He's worn it silver which we we are not silly. Call money joel. Is there anything in protein. Oh the thinking to himself while chelsea final. We're in the permanent right now with these two outstanding standing teams. I'm not sure where i can go from here with this club. Rob is it well like i'm on a might need to move on tough spot for him to make this his team better unless unless he's given this pool and there's some places he could go way you put your clothes an no no well you mentioned not could go to they could even underfoot by munich bigger clubs. Yeah you yeah topan clubs clubs in transitions clubs that need work clubs. It need some of this stuff yet to spurs them. Slow tally go to success. During those periods. You might be three years before we got success would be three more years in spurs. Will avi the support with us it. Yes it by municipal you venice yeah. Cash cash is gonna so our any saw out and then the money comes in for for the big time players. He wants spurs so you can say that he those cubs are in transition as difficult for him would be better spent standard spurs but he'll no in time. The money will come to try and produce a team that can win everything. They've come so close you'd like you. You don't wanna think that he might feel a taking spurs. As far i was like can i opie stays on respect for what he's done. We know that we've gone over the money. We're gonna this the way this club has grown but goes by ownership and how much they're particularly that okay now going to kind of almost mortgage on the future of the revenues at this stadium and what the money they boosted from this year to get our spurs can potentially become a superclub. They can cut us. The stadium revenues t._v. Money's phenomenal abby thins affable club yeah so it's just how much money is the stadium going to take away from developing a team and we saw it on snow again reports and say that no there's still a bunch of money money portugal get in the summer to make you stronger and <hes> we're absolutely clear on this. It does need new players. Now does not the pennant wimbley or the funds and the players trevor into that stadium every time like an away game and to get what they've done this season with all those senses this is this is remarkable but now he's shown what you can do. We now deserves a chance to to kinda have ago ago this group christian and eric and again though in the massive sign post a week in a sign on if you if if in a couple of weeks we reading an and all those things come now is christine signed. The spurs boom fails boom yeah if we're reading christian nixon agencies talking and it looks like he's gonna leave. Worry me well. What are they need. Spurs can cause quick real quick to go through the team. It's good in areas in it might need to write back if trip he goes tool about monopoly in the back lot donnie rosemont needed i mean thomas sanchez and in one fully to deal in good shape <hes> from plasma son the mailer cain not bad. I'd like another one another one. They're like an the gold school google one. If these one available can we talk about the field and if he stays makes everything yeah vaccine goes looking at different things so these work on these targets to be called spurs they're going to have to do with if they wanna be you know lifting trophies lot liverpool manchester city and going onto the next stage psychologically for them next season going to be taught for again i would say places is <hes> <hes> listen. You can win it. If top three finish the whole season in this state and rubio could could be a massive lift so be a must she has talked about being like something special when you in the noises so game from spurs in of discipline so so much just need a boost of a couple of players to give everybody a ba- freshness about it and more excitement from those supports ready for a new season but there's no question full respect for this football club what they've done with this group. 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Prememento #127: Season 4 Episode 6 - Stuart Pearce

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Prememento #127: Season 4 Episode 6 - Stuart Pearce

"You can just feel the details. I can feel extreme moments. And if you don't want to. Put these together and get the feel of a person. I'll tell you honestly I will look if we have. Fifty nine percent win ratio and the primarily. I'm not. Playing. Mind Games I'M TALKING ABOUT FIGHTS Discussion Never Pixie bulleting. What is he doing the work? That's what people's vote trying to pinks and climaxes. To get let down by officials you know role on rail whether I'll be too old to see. But that's why you need the. I prefer to speak, speak. In. Big. Trouble. The Best I can say. Describe. Off. What was Really. Good. There was a moment when I think about whether, I'm going to go the usual statements with which generally don't tend to go anyway. It's almost as if. I've got these days. The half biked might be slow to kill ten or twenty minutes while we get through at least the first one bay may be two of this podcast. You should see what's on the cutting room flow on one of the reasons why I wanted to speed through this intro it's because, of course, simply of the Tom Kerridge. Obviously, the Kuroda virus and the not being able to go into football grind full potentially the next fifty, seven thousand years. But still we do have all major annoyances on the MOINA, annoyances. Moina annoyances even in regard to the schedule which still have to deal with international football. For today's in Troy he's international fobel underrated. Now owned the race it I think it's no longer as much the pinnacle as it was before especially, the English receptionist that playing for your country should be the highlights of your career and you should cruelty the splintered glass and snake pits and also start where the longtime ago. Yes and that kind of transition parliament's objections to the price as kind. Of the death of there's a whole variety of reasons full. That's funny. Enough one of them's called if the ease nowadays of seeing football from of a cup chance of a national tournaments affiliate, generally we seem old football dad full. The full that we see hasn't been fantastic. I do have a theory about so I'll just get a lenient on this in terms of the what they the. Into football has gone through a solo vehicle or saw coals of being really really really important and not as important. Do think specifically England, a reached a little bit more important, and I think we're going back the other way. Now again, I think Clo- football impotency influenced by how good your own t miss if you teams don't particularly right than you don't prescribe as much imports to the whole team good that it becomes the most important thing in the world as regards. England and. Imports be downplayed a bit I think the facts euro twenty twenty didn't happen as some of the reason I was thinking about actually because. I disobeyed we'd. Down with ten I think also types of the football on offering the first international break from England wasn't particularly great I saw childhood obstacle which said that this was the worst England team since of the Graham Tyler which I was sluggy Hauch I you go through a whole series ago. teams have we had. Since then but I think also in elements of its especially a battle like in the last time things dangerous. The F. I was promoted English football by introducing more restrict quite system in the primarily homegrown plays private league is an organization is having none of it. Inevitably, you end up in a situation whereby the pool of Plas- isn't quite as good because the top league is required to places much value and it's all development. The difference between the grind tidier in the current here is tied era. The top was predominantly all English, are we were still crap? Hat, this cyber more seriously, which is the when of English football is good or whenever the England football team is good. International footballers whole is not very good. That leads me to my second point, which is a thing Michelle is now suddenly shit again. Does that mean the international masterful is going to be good again. Spanish Buddhists have to wait and see types I think. From such from European perspective if you cannot, what's a high quality football a day of Champions League match or of Standard European qualification match that's going to be Champions League. We've had this conversation before very many iterations off the podcast in the sense that. Don't think you necessarily subscribes Siri to the time to create new joy do but I think at least in the light knowing t's definitely in the mid two thousands the champions. League you saw the woke up as the top footballing competition while I mean is that like marketing question was is international slowly underwrites it now, which is everything call near the Wa or even started his podcast as a joke about look how much of a bud is about international food and? Generally speaking qualifies unfriendly. Friendly's friendly's. Quite Vexing Oh in terms of my official rankings after the Champions League in terms of actual quality in actual enjoyment. When get to knock out stages brought below dot es woke up football you don't get welcome football without international football. Yep. Is True and will copies still a pinnacle. It's just the pinnacle loves the Problem Nas wife seems to think it's not great the differences. In England Games and example, and a game for you clock. So in the grand scheme of things, what's probably more important game a League Cup second round game, all a nation's league much routes is probably a nation's leave much but I did it for various reasons watch either of England's recent games in the nation's league but I did sit down to enjoy the cup second round game between veteran burn. Tons of clothing, country, loyalty, average game, warden, nothing game, grand scheme of things. You've you're always more likely to advocate are more than what's seen as a average international and I think it's partly because you know otherwise. Popular opinion most of the time we all lucky if you ought an England fan because most of the time we're going to be qualifying for tournaments. So you can kind of in your mind generally bypass cod qualifies you might avenue. Virus game where you lose to somebody who you should at least a but generally not Johnson, you're going to be the World Cup you're going to be the Rois. So he skipped a couple years qualifies that just sit down for the business end of tournament wears well depending on what League Team USA. Pool. There's no guarantee that is going to be something better at the end of it when we were younger generally tended to get said solve on. A graph of apathy within soybeans overall the aussies apathy with England. So it within specific clubs but movie younger, you would get the big clubs that would generally tend to have the majority of the England players and I don't think they destroyed to didn't care. It was just a case of dot was the white walls and then you've got to the golden generation as you are a very tate devoid. Playa said felt up all the vices of the topography. Such comments afterwards studied the Chelsea Plaza Lou who blasted. Players all kind of out backs up attitude. So people have argued is one of the reasons why not golden generation didn't actually. Achieve Anything, then within not though you hud those clothes but you also Hud plies applied full other clubs in the Premier League I'm because of the level of talent applying waste, there was a certain level of reverence there aside life of always good as well. I'M GONNA use Villa's the puffing example and I'm not trying to slack federal off but there was a competition for prices there. The you're the bottom end of no one below villa was getting a shot at the England squad I think it's to go generation was because we had outrunning Europe and English tree in the final for X. Amount. And they were a Liverpool arsenal menu. Think Chelsea reached a final not era, but they were bubbling under. Your being competition. So as all my favorite golf goldies pies at the top of your, we need to bother anyone else and he probably signed terms of being team to being the vice accessible in our lifetime are being teams. Weather was a mix applies if the devoid in they said since as split in terms of the top division than what you're saying is the. The Fun- biases domestically, all not really seeing any these players on a diet, diabetic tweet, Isis, and so therefore, what you would have had on a might be fifty fifty style in the nineties of Lower League lower division funds watching these pliers in two, thousand six, the devoid between the fan vices was even to a lesser extent bomb off of the premier league not summed up on the. Facts for two thousand six, which is always uses the ultimate example of England Selection Fair Will Cup cancer woke up if I woke up with Steph Fountain at the top scorers announced that has no chance he would have been in that school because he was Austin at Ben Gut Satis, lots of rapid thousand thousand. That was the ultimate example of that big lebas this being or will it? Good we're not just doing this for the sake of it. We are doing this because of very specific reason. This is the program that podcast is true Quigley along saw out of ours always in a five say someone from the game number one in the second season, we went from twenty and eighteen, Twenty Dante. All I bought of incarnation the last year, we told the story of. The primarily through ply themselves and this time around we are going one step farther on looking at the men behind those plies on the stories with the clubs the most associated with therefore everything you've heard up until this point has been a setup I wanNA kick things off properly boy a Musky the same question I asked every single podcast what is your general consensus opinion of Stuart Pearce. Go. Reaction Ready Day much. Achieved the laws apply at Gosawx as a manager because he was a great by any types of the determination, which is always good attribute that was going to bit the second storage almost the exact opposite of his England plank rid which most look fans you know terms of momentus moments in our lifetime pierce is probably if you're gonNA tonight Ted is in at least two of them. One good one bad. I was a good one is probably in more top dollar that Scott, how highly Schulman's regard caught even the consciousness as manager he added international management career which completely forgotten about he went on for a lot longer. Before how to look at the research? The wreck lectures once Oldman we did terrible. Oh. Yes. So much. So honestly now completely forgotten even to charge of an England game as caretaker manager I didn't. Run, three hundred defeat to pollen some sexual I was one amazing stuff from that, which is the idea that he's in doing. So became the most capped England player to manage England. Sunday, not lever can anytime soon but here's the thing all to suggest which is given the situation rounding on same the time I want to just point to. A manager coming in in Law Mazi. March February. Other. No it was like that year euros dot year. Couldn't stu of the job that particular point towing a name we moved on from there just giving that summer because he's already doing something that's Amore Anyway. Well couldn't have done much worse. I mean we could have gotten downtown groups is I guess but you back at it now you ask the question of did the England team progress of the Roy Hudd should I. Think mice people are GonNa. Say. TIMES, of the way in which by Ryan's could go wrong. If student pays would about the same manager rule run at the England job hunted, you would probably have much a yeah a conversation. But then almost as allude to those slide, veges suggest the peers mud the just as bad as Hudson. If not worse, it's an interesting wife of history because if pay. Get seeing the job fulltime there's no chance south guy gets after ultimately the question of voice you it pays didn't get the job he got another job and looking back at the old is more frustrating and really bizarre given you come to think of it in the he was given the task of caretaker manager of England for one game but yet should piss got a really. Interesting job, which was he took charge of Great Britain for the Olympics. So thankful I can say one of two things on one hundred dollars can go. Okay. He didn't getting job because she was the manager of Blackburn Olympics on the other hand occupy I. Why didn't he do bugs for? And then we re evaluated from there. I would have been able to prepare Olympic team properly if England would have gone deep in the. Euros. It was probably not if he would have won the Olympics I think the amount credit I would have been a bank for subsequent devas will have been grinding increased. He wins the Olympics do you not think this is Lloyd. Question, how does he not replace? It should immediately found simple facts at the time. Hodgson was seen as having two days in jail. I mean I'm not GonNa say it was a universal opinion and it was a spirited traditionally before for most of the guy hanging off penalties and that losing. So if yours masculine user pedal is you like, Okay Yeah, you got past speakers about his that would have been a climate I. think if he would've won the Olympics feasibly, it is unfair of me to suggest that he could have been both England participation in the euros and starts Jalali. until pretty much the end of July. But you're not gonNA find as an F. I on the ordeal that you're going to get knocked out other he said do bugs. Yeah anytime. It was literally possible to do by. Could've caught, fly back free weeks to get from my cut it. So it is possible types of the mental kind of tall. It's just all managing in a big tournament audio. Good. It's Olympics especially with the home situation. Brilliant. Great bread does the thing as well is it would have been slowly disrespect for to just go. Yeah. This manage England he's GonNa Minded Gina. Yeah. Especially because of. Out? The constitution team? Shall we say I played with frozen that over whole nations? He weren't particularly happy. About the arrangement in the first place. But yeah, I've of the perception of this is an aid. Even, the majority of the plas data out being leash would've been held or. Of the country. So I didn't get swept up with Olympic fever this particular parental a watched might be too if the games but I never really got sense of what was going on like what do you remember about this? Was it like a big deal? Did Anyone Really K. was a thing that football told? Tight rated about it I think it was because Great Britain got tally. We applied massively well for most of it, which on its own does disqualify. Great Britain or England team from achieving called states as you most of what we are employed most of the Games those all at first before the tournament about the makeup of the team there was a feeling of wherever this was based on everything. Apart from hosting of wit if I ever or wearing a deep tournament, this is our types that it wasn't really much of consideration really of what the group stage should be. Because in terms of I've group Senegal Uruguay Ui year, we're going to. Answer did in terms of group stage I mean wait be. So an element of dot really pints much tension. is expected to get out. So then you end up next round way career a Finnish female. Career, she's going to be played resilient. A qualified is going to be great sal guess ready for that, and then he was a bit of a other. Sight Show Joe but? A combination. Of England penalties. Stupid. Do Macci Yourself. I'd have also a Pob as you mentioned on Cudi and manage. The National English team. and. The Olympic tape was because there was a tournament weighing plight that was a acceptance, the any English plan it was not national team for the euro's wasn't going to be Vicks, but I think there is an element of why Gossip is because if say he played in that team most of the plaza member and I say most of using rate liberally well, plas- he would English gigs, Wisconsin, another pool of Shem Ironman, but Benedetti plight. But if not, I've got squad list, it brought to me and stop patsy but it would put me a black piece of paper and said right down the tape I wouldn't go anywhere. Really I think because that wasn't the stop. The economy. Has Been. Quietly removed the consciousness because we didn't win. Wow, we have been good team anyway. So what was all the fuss about sets to gently rushed? The COP also picks was successfully Nova Sport. So we did do is I will allow this one even with the England team in in the euro. So detained implies out there is still kind of feeling Gov slacked off scarlet. Really. Must have been a young kid at Scotland, Del. Lap Front, our Ramsey's in that squad. Neil Tyler before they used as experience for twenty sixteen. So it's it's not bad team you look. With the benefits are good, he's Going to win the Olympics. It's an interesting one because the two unique opportunity a tone but it did seem to at the very least underlying eight thing. All Shoe it pays we said he was going to get the England job, but he's in the settle and kissed Gripe Virgil because he's the England on the twenty one much. I feel very long period toy, N-, and this is a really interesting period in time. For Youth football spine in the latitude thousands set the deck full cat. We've got all these kids coming through on wish she toxically William Have Everson, and then jump in twenty ten. When Oh actually you know are we should all kids the coming tour and in around this time the were of to really to this day. Actually I have a spot for England on the twenty one side always tie between we're. Going to try and go on and do something versus everyone any good gets immediately catapulted into the first episode. Bashir pace is front and center full fashion. You tournaments of England qualifying for the under twenty one's versions of the euro, the World Cup, and it comes down to this days. What do you want from you under twenty one team? Do you want them to progress international sodas quickest possible you want to? Get used to winning things to an interesting on his well especially when we're talking about this international break with the nation's league, because nations league was coined of developed to ally Java nations, it's to give them a chance to win and the question you go yourself fees do you want to put football is in a position to win? Would you want to put football is in a position to the game of? I of England House, the twenty one level as you play for the national team, you know pacing the body of the never come back. Yeah. But some it's been a situation where I never played for twenty one. So whip straighten whereas maybe coaches with even wide resources than us in terms of plus when it comes to a big tournament, they will stop the deck. Do think you should apply the best under twenty one team what do you think you should just let the ply have the experience Staying but the reality is primarily bay clubs. Planning Champions League IT Talks Pressure Plaza get up. Lie Out because the power dynamic Sweden prevalence. Is Pretty much solid. Privately calls the shots the romantic in me says, you've played by state I've into practical side of me says, the apply you stay because that's winning coach. Health Center vitamin even intensive at this period. When Pierce was in charge, he got to a semi-final in a final scene is progressive I was we're on the cusp of something whereas recently when we run as good luck under seventeen under eighteen to nineteen, that's all the level of won the World Cup for. That at a few of those plaza beginnings, a maker impact, and you know it'd be too simplistic to say of which. Is Rain which case because Guardia City is been responsible for developing English players even cloth has been responsible for developing English class as a simplistic as forest. I do think everything that we've been speaking about those come to a head in Tom's of strip searches module a career in the two thousand and knowing under twenty one European Championships Germany England four. Now I'm GonNa ride off a applies always making richards. Nedeau Manoa caring gapes. noble sable caught James Milner. Very, very good solids primarily professionals the Germany team, and again I'm not halting Mamo Noah. Drum. Boateng Benedict Toy is Matt SOMOs Semiconductor Mazza also, and that doesn't even going to contemplation two of the three goal scorers that day if you look at the legacy of the plies, the named in Germany so it sometimes it just comes down to WHO's got the ban applies about yet, and if you wagon guy free that fooling length fourteen new played on that day, how many of them went to be truly great players one out of the impact on the top level winning trophies and being parv great teams want to if you being extremely generous you. Jeremy. Out in the world cal, how one Champions League? The were in grapevine same dorm and team that I suppose the element of economic do what you covered the pleasure golf and also team is more divided manager being played in that fight of most of you probably say fabulous determined work hard get stuck in, which is a traditional English way applying is fortunately not traditional way of winning major told them Ashley in the Grand Scheme of things. So I think even getting smashed in the fine at the time I'd I'd say particularly diluted the reputation well evidenced by the fact that he went on begets mentoring. Planning fix also talking about when the credit in the bank began to run out as it were. We got back to the tournaments in two thousand eleven and got knocked out in the group. That was the weight of. this whole idea of a discrepancy between international football up a toy was playing random friendly's will run them teams, buses plying team self respect to quality all ever happened was the team's issue beat we should bait teams we shouldn't be we didn't. Not Two thousand nine we have some good results but I in terms of the heights of expectation it was in two, thousand, nine years he said he was seen as the peak two, thousand eleven slightly betsy would be sliding more disappointing the way panned out. You got to a final said, it's a bit of credit in the bank as it were, and then you're gonNA get tape. At. Hours disgrace on when I went into the store over there. And then we lost every. The fact, he wasn't a very good group in keeping twits. Leonen Game Okay and then the over two games Norway is route. When you look at the squad again I, remember the time thinking Oh we got a good team now looking back now the squad it's not great but then that's a limitation of. Under twenty one squad it's of gets pit. Best is a bit of a live. So diverse in terms of the past, because the manner of the axes, kind of wherever is wrong the feeling of we're going backwards but dot com total wipeout in terms of Bundler spin around voice any so long you gonNA keep guy before eventually say you need a good to great? Very good excellent word you want us to get consistent tournament wins out of the squats that pays out other things criticism or a particularly outrageous led to say in the annals of managerial history not going to go down is great. Excellent. You look in terms of. Did A. K. hasn't good spells also kind of cloak not going in exactly in the best circumstances in the world ever. Was the phrase is it making silk s man for most people got pigs there you go. Now with a big, it's not meant to be a massive criticism tonight. You'll. Great it's funny actually when I started this asteroid your at least just the that he might have been in contention for the enjoying twelve, and then when you look at just Berry, Dior Day that he's actually not very good with England. One talent but we're GONNA have to move on to he's choke primarily create. Yes. We've come this far into the parliament of hocus without factually touching on an actual premier league game should pay actually managed to primarily teams and knowledge demise not one but two league teams. Both of them is particularly interesting parts of the history and if you listen to this podcast before and also as well if he's not gathered the fact that we've been doing this to this point, we go from the end of their primarily credit to stop. So that's what. We've been doing much in the way we've been negative. So I fall sure paces last game in charge of I primarily club as the phone game off two, thousand, six, two, thousand, seven spas against Manchester City spas managed to win two one at White Hart Light. It's not the game he might be thinking of, if you have a brief recollection of the history of this particular fixture, you'll be thinking of the I'm Web scored a goal that Spicer's the Champions League. This is slightly less consequential. It's just Roy Keane. UNDENIABLE DIMITAR BERBATOV SPAS to. Emil in Penza school is before half-time which illustrates the era of Manchester City. We are at this particular tour. You can't really have too many complaints I mean grow in is. To go home and comes in on a free Daba comes in on a free Michael Bull comes back. Up, period, in Penza came in on a free, you call really have tuned complaints if you guide socks after that no, it terms of. Some of the stats we mentioned the previous incarnations podcast. They don't score a goal home after New Year's Day for a grand total of Ted, which is a lowest in top-flight history. Tour breaking records, and in terms of use the results have lock five-match losing streak from the second half John Rita Milla. March. But then we free games out four to five much of being run I mean they wouldn't let games away from home. Obviously. Not scored I, WanNa get credits bull home drawer against Liverpool to end up streak that momentum doesn't carry on again, the seasons unfortunately, they lose four out of the last five tricky. Lose weight asked no lose hosts might UNITED LOSE TO VILLA AWFULLY? Obviously have tricky game gets better as you mentioned but even. Those kind of results are usually leaving you on a tiebreak. Yes. Sacks I think it's a case of where you all away your ambitions are a club and it's easy to look sixty nine and go. Oh well, they're ambitions were higher in there so. This obesity to be under performing but. Over back into a lot of city seasons. When is this? The performing I'm not sure is I think in terms of when you look in terms knows cold heart starts it while it is for. Book. Here's the situation time whereby they had some money and it usually wasted on a big striker stepped forward this season Bernardo Corradi. Did nothing and decimated that transport budget apart from that they were scrambling around but you're looking in terms of overall performance and if they are under achieving I mean they come forward. With forty two points which they have streaks of losing games. And if Ronin sold applies in the team, the goal is exerted on the plaza came in for. Mark Rich Shits even island Joey Barton this done Donnie meals fish done. Johnson traveled sinclair. So it's not right thing. Is it a that should not score home goal for half a season pretty much probably not. Reliable of anyone won't be for I. Don't think we see something stutz on Sun teams and he slowly. The, some things that will never be broken and when I saw things, I mean Dhabi's points to record the bottom Chelsea's goals tally conceded in four or five, and as such I'm not entirely show the not scoring hung goal in half per se he's A. Republican. Well, actually she also moines iskoe's can only be just as simple Cumana soy that doesn't score on goal from November on woods. Yeah. Got Renegade but you take us style windy you took it away you say is fourteen or Forty points is that the limit of what that team? Could have achieved is that all that team could have expected This is nice looking in terms of the teams he'll come to both the. Season where reading tight the League by storm and I've got boss and who we talked about bridge ago nations. Then not team. History had been do better than sissy it a top flight, for example. Portsmouth had money obviously by is folded real fake money start coming in even though it could be Middlesbrough a couple of the. Different stories but I still think in terms of that title was still a slight under achievement with the team that they had even though I'm not saying was a championship winning side or company side or even a European qualifying side i. mean it's always a case of aggressive green on the other side. Well, these teams on good as us, historically doing k., and then you throw in condit a stats about the yet get a go live in terms of fans can usually puts up with more if they see their team sern positive style of play or progress being made runs like that quickly dispelled. Optimism. That may be The fan base, but it is a case for pay estimator around safe. I would have had the money that I'm not surely followed. The next occupant of the hot seat could've done a bad job similarly could say to the under twenty one jobs. If I had a fool plethora of eligible players, I would have done a bad job but I think the reality that limitations in both of those jobs by the end. But that was not over achievement or there was not hit the ceiling attention achievement. It's an odd one because for club like Manchester City you we can only. Talk about historic context within the last ten years of money unmitigated success and dive down what they've done on such a grand scale. But like for as much as everyone looks to Taipei of Manchester. City. Prior to old Mona the still historic club their club to which he would go the performances within this time on par maybe slowly under when you look at it and you go looking at finishes of Fulton on fifty and off suspense No they're all funds of clubs these days to go lola L- Manchester City Fifteen, sixteen years ago we used to finish positions but. They became the team they became Nye the head of the history of the hunt, and at this point, this was. I WANNA say Guzzi go because he clearly wasn't but h one of the better toy NHS wealth identified degree without combat because in terms of. Natural seeding but we talked about the run in the lower half of two, thousand, sixty, thousand seven, which lost his job. But you go in back in terms of a run at the end of the previous season, I five or six where was in charge is near before season they gonNA run of their last ten games will lose nine. Ted I mentioned the one game. They won bulb. As mentioned. You're looking for progress you went into the suburbs second full season. Okay. Got Benefit the Dow. We ended dreadfully book. We showed enough in the first half of the season to suggest that maybe something there, and then asleep does need to be mentioned that they have to sell Shaun wright-phillips for big money in between those two seasons. But there is also a familiar pattern that season of not having a lot of money wasted most VILNA strike. He doesn't end up doing a huge amount but party bystanders city that's probably has become a bit of a cold here I suppose in some of this is the point I was trying to Mike Cohen. You said, you disagree with me, which is the sense. The city that we know now modern died and they have some implies the have one exponentially more than attain particular era but and again I'm going to slowly time by the case loudly further to previous era but someone showing Goto is much more of a figure of, Omega reverence than. Someone like at inject for example, who we spoke about last season podcast it's two extremes really guys said was that when things were really. Gets. The credit for kind of going back through the ranks because he was there at the end of The journey in terms of Premier League return outscoring goals shekel you probably doesn't get the credit. He deserves because he was in a great team he will winning things and if you'll not Sergio Guerrero potentially overlooked in strong involvement in terms of this of middle period, that's what made. This is exactly the middle period of the took it is. But in terms of did this team deal, it could have done even though I think the ball was massively high intensity. First full season of ship is in charge you pick in the best in Levin in terms of available to David James. Eventually Been Sold Danny Mills Richard Dodd, SUV undestand. Steve Jordan. Trevor Sinclair Jerry Baden Cloudy Rain Kiki Musampa the raw for South and Andrew call is up a great team. Is. Losing Nine Games out ten coming fifteenth in the League Ny you look in times of the of teams that were in and around them at the time they come just below middle spur again show I don't see Charleston. How'd that period whereby they were challenging a bit higher off the table but know tens of wage income above the ball I'm not saying it's like massive underachievement they should have been qualified for Europe but I think he was called a period whereby the treading water canterbury but not because it was especially in those two seasons was ariffin teams I think in terms if. See teams when they came up, the hat attacking flair may have been slowly worse overall soon. I think it's consistency of quality the C team play with that kind of initial period roughly the same maybe Saudi back you could sight but I think that was kind of a dead no expectations or I would. But City if you about to stall primarily been do law got relegated in slowly fossils acres dot says when really bad because got relegated again. Then, caught about the great build up. So an element of we're back in the league, we kind of where we belong as it were and is the overlooked. Period in terms of returned to league. Big Money, but it also looks at the fact that God yet expectation. But yeah how could there been any good united didn't have the money even the millions of the first period of big money. But there was all meister tolerance of being average because they've been outreach before even the new kind of expectations we're not team. I should've been slightly higher looking back now I mean at the time he caught a thing they were rubbish until they had money. They were, but it could have been slightly improved I think and I suppose it was adamant pay. Sat from Stacey ended up having a gangland manager reemerging the Olympics there's those expectation of city on he so we're not really going to. Worry too much about that Book David, reason element of yet having the greatest amount resources in the world, but not managing them to the full potential but they had moved in to the new state after come with games at in terms of season revenue, they did have in terms of income. This placed in the League and audio doesn't necessarily translate to income coming in and they were probably spending some money towards the stage of etc but I think that was described to slightly off in us. I think he's interesting We've arguably the same point from very different angles in the sense A. Little looking for them to reach result in more and might be more perception of them is to look at them from a team that's come from slowly less until the over the cake of the journey that made in terms of like that so much. The Dogs Book Nice still had the Sun Starts Reuss is take the point the we've both troy tonight but I think we did not. A previous season regardless to his one thing that we cannot overlook. There was one thing that we cannot miss the one statement Dole instance with which would be one of those stereotypical podcasts of primarily triple wasn't this great when this happened last game of the previous season two, thousand, forty, thousand, five stupendous needing to win the game to get your painful throws divy giants from. There's almost ingenious plan and it would have would have been for that. pesky Kit missing the penalty the press you kid being rugby follow party who's ever referred to as a kid. Simone one INSENSATE settlers. It's surgically I almost feel representative mention it. Both has today mentioned Hammy Tomes has has I ne- manager done something that of the ordinary in an actually law of heard of instances and I've seen instances myself with manages my own club, the plight goalkeepers in midfield jury friendly's but a game of sort of level of this consequence it's a choice i. think the fact that when he came in, he had a really good record or you suggest in the It could do no wrong or at least the failing of Tom and he's UNMINED wall. He would do might come off I. Think he got himself into position whereby if it doesn't end up in an absolute disaster in terms of the midfield economy losing possession on the half-way line and Middlesbrough gun-free school as long as terrible doesn't happen the fact that it had a good run before went, you could say nearly paid off. Credit. In Bank to go up, that's just outside the box maverick faking that we need Robinson you've caught center what on the bench what why? The hell out you bring if pisses decision lead to object garbage can see to in two minutes because of divy con- control the limit failed. Danish the worst decision, anyone's ever mind and we'll tell him on it would be held up on a pedestal for one reason if divy James Shall, we say leads to a penalty. He's actually converted and that's led to an opinion which is revealed in a very different way. This is in the middle the two very much in terms of what we're talking about times of paces. So of fight, the following season is needed this. So therefore what you're less with these, it's almost comedy, but the end of the day is more of a cliches is nothing I think the fact that even with the missed penalty, any opportunity to qualify for your mistake on life, which is at that stage was their highest yeah. No. The research respect to fight the devil. So that kind of has called it a feeling of if only we'd had this for the season definitely go potential with this team. This is where we should be aiming for it. Goes out of wacky story. Vote does potential shouted a factor wasn't about team and he did you know who's the one penalty miss away from qualify for Europe and nobody even higher in the expectation would have been the this could have been followed on during the course of the season you intend to replace. Kevin Keegan he only life looked intensive muncie history did Piping Ralph near bring buckle up in the first place and so at the time pays comes in almost seems like a seamless Transition Times A. Good. Idea at this point in, Tomah. Would say in this season we disposition specifically I don't think anyone could have thought it would what this world button. Conduct Muncie pat himself on the back thinking of course, gotTa work. But we had the foresight and a great player. Great. I should agree. Budget and we were able to jump on that by confessed. Unfortunately, the found biogas didn't end up taking them to the places that they wanted to be taken unfortunately. But for a while they was looking like it was going to be a at dynasty cutter Satan Open. For while the England. National sets of agreed as well. So at. This point Thomas Chief is it signs. It was very much Shane, and this is more to do with the Danish media is quick to leap upon any manager especially, this particular period of time way that was very much as such phyl who's the next five as it's going to be saying, it's GonNa be some on the plate for fog as well. It will be if someone that was like might be applied for another manager that was very influential manager in English football and fit every single much of that criteria in terms of he was a good Playa. He had the connection with funds on the results much that Tom and they didn't in fact, he was an internal appointment in the Senate Saving Coche. And as well, always house. Internal promotion can be used to demonstrate that you have a plan in place in terms of not just developing that playing site, but also the coaching site as well Prior to Managing Muncie managing England Great Britain all not making a kind of bullshit and such freeman exactly what you would expect. But in terms of several out a good stop and there weren't quite the array of toys to play with, they could have done i. think it was a case of those limitations on a managerial level. It's not what briefs expose. You know it might somebody was terrible. It was a clown owens and sometimes it's difficult to evaluate somebody falls in that middle here in terms of if brilliant. Any wait to forty chievements. Somebody's useless. It's pretty easy to mock enough. They got his demonstrating violence. When somebody you you have no particular vested interested failing and you want them succeed and they've done some good stuff and. Bad stuff it is. Difficult. Convicts which to play enjoyed it a he'll stop. But what we live on this podcast is talking to the funds also terrible segues that genuine comedy at breakneck speed, and we'd I genuinely had such a huge response from Manchester funds that we've got separated into separate segment. So I'm GonNa Festival to me now in a very different location probably just pissed, but we'll see what they had to so. It's me you've already heard exactly what we had to say about strip out Manchester City book. Intimated, just a moment ago I. Significantly. Inebriated. No, that's not the point. The point being we had such a big response to what we that for Strip pissed and kept coming in as we were doing it. So I've got a point to a couple of paper and a couple of things that we saw wrong and fundamentally the reasons we do this podcast is to look with the club that we all not necessarily part of and find the emphasis. So this is unbelievable. Honestly fussed off, we have to give a Mossy shoutout to David Mooney who has written books on bunch of city does BBC Five Live as a podcast with the athletic and the blue. Moon podcast a blue moon podcast and he's at David Mooney win. The we're not the ones that would dad this is literally and also as well to this. is on coming at this from a very of big nineties Mer, and with the mind I have a very of vivid image in my head of much city, and that's not the case the idea the start of the nineties. He's a big reason as to woj Manchester City. We're in the place by world in the mid nineties as I remember them and I'm going to read the vitamin you mentioned the relegation in nineteen on six but. LemMe Self Comission mistakes might sitter Situa. No means a great team in the early nineteenth, but there were consist of having promotion one, thousand, nine, hundred finish fifth in Nineteen ninety-one above Manchester United v again in nine hundred, ninety two in terms of like being one step away being that close as it were because we've set this in different situations of the podcast, the legacy, the Manchester not didn't of having was not set in stone bilateral. And so this. And again back to reading vitamin culminated in twelve pay two swells not backing to read it began a spoil of appointments and sackings a swells as ice did Francis Lee Become Chairman Alan. Ball's appointment was a disaster tichy roaring free with fifty five senior pros in the books. All primarily wages about to go into the third to that's coined off where Roy at least in more memory pick it up. So the reason for that is very obvious when you go back now and get an fast forwarding that forward in terms of what was going on at city at the time, the money becomes an issue again for sure pierce because at that time, there was no. They spent nothing in two, thousand, four, two, thousand, five year before Pierce's appointed and eight million into forty thousand sixty spoilt the show more phillips transfer, and then that final season, they spent four million despite another four million going in class house the entire town was the netspend was minus twelve million you can wind up with a very specific squad did not particular point in time the was a complete lack of interest in city funds because the conclusion was, this is as good as it gets. So they burned through the usual suspects getting on that new manager bonds every two to three seasons, and you know that's very much in keeping with Piss was there and Bart's boy even thought PAC's plummeted bic. Andrew Cole put in a transfer request Lifa Portsmouth before the season started. None of this mitigates type again, reading for him, but he was the cheapest and safest option, and that is a very big indicator of a club as it was tournament. Also, in regard to we mentioned join the segment the day, the weekend and other teams were finishing with much assistance on also spoke to probably going to get this wrong in terms of pronunciation Kartik Krishna on he's on twitter at K. F. L. I. and. Goes into similar things in terms of die. How'd real problem with we can join the payers tenure some awful performances ans again mitigated financial circumstances. The walls three one win against Fulham in the two, thousand, six, two, thousand, seven, hundred, and that was an important victory at the time but he says he has the variety feeding the point was maybe they'd be better off in the championship and seeing negative football with tinge use of violence typified by Ben. Thatcher. Who We also did a podcast about. Last. Year coalition to thoughts and it's a very different soit to the Soit, the pace inherited the manager previously they have which we will again be covering on a future podcast. But in Tom's of positive the audio the you get Martin Petrol on the lawn off the heels of having one of the worst teams to watch in memory and angel mark. Phillips comes back. So in some ways, two, thousand, six, thousand, seven was a necessarily bottom to hit to build buck off even though not necessarily getting. Ready to just being at that level and then balancing back in obviously those stories of the basketball that we didn't touch upon which when you're looking at is a neutral is hilarious informed theory book. You don't necessarily walnut from your money, but like I say we had so many people get back to us. So many things and these just a sample of the things we want to mention some of the real absolute in terms of feedback that we've had the pinnacles a thank you everyone who spoke. To us and we're going to kick this off would carry on with the rest of shoot. This is torn in the Premier League after all that being said, we still one more period and this is coined of bittersweet in the sense that this is the only to talk about this particular team. But if you look at all criteria we says with which is that we talk about every club in every era in the premier league there aren't many managers because Oh by in Tom's of nothing forest but. Should pass in Nottingham Forest. There is a very big a very strong connection there and is to it son decoy unfortunate. The he falls on ice specific period of time but I will say this is the Nottingham Forest history is so convoluted that's a slow step too far but I forget the the when they are done after this come up again. Stop on this show dynasties knows absolutely all sorts Iguana site a team. Would six games all season one of wishes the opening day by GonNa Sixteen Game Run without a win and they come bomb. You think yet is an absolute car crash off season. But then when you look at it, the other way they finished on I four points, which is more than boy expecting those numbers by finish seven points of safety really with the goal difference which considering coming ball is a million miles away. I'd also the fact that still roundabout eight games to go. They were outside of the bomb free. It was just a fortunately in the last ten games. They didn't even ask that as we like to give you the inside in football if you don't win games. You know going to do very well in terms of there's all sorts of reasons go into in terms of thirty, one free games I usually teams who stay up it is based on having solid informed. So you always in the middle of catch-up situation also season where things saunders is blind still. At the end of the season where in terms of thinking though comeback of wide elites villa ninety five, and that's it. But also to season wet when you hear Vanoy don't comes in this season, you automatically think because the overseas and you have. You must have come in weight as schilling go on strike immediately. Becomes in the end of the season for Celtic last four off million. I mean I think he's scored one in not run. Also they spend one billion pounds on the set of forward Ian Thomas more it comes from trauma goes down animals. I've never heard of those plays and also speaking of send me regular skits. We have on pretty preceding carnations of the podcast going into the chairman with great names history. Oh. Yes. I remember this the chairman of forest season was a gentleman called irving cold icicle right lane. Well, yes the. I'm, GONNA pay with my strategy side to the sun degrees which should pass on these corn. But in terms of the forest sparking to, as I said before we saw this. Day He's reputation and legacy is to assault Detroit to the point largely, which is hilarious. So I did the res I- photo that is constantly posted in regard to strip has dotting forest Dhabi county relations I. If you look at the photo, it looks a pass as. Kissing the Dhabi county budge and vice anytime soon, things are in Fudd. Photo is Sharon and you wouldn't think anything more of it without any prior knowledge publicity. What it is is again, he's wearing a dog can't show denise is nothing afforest show and he's kissing the nothing of always like literally pulling out from under Nathan Kissing the voice budge he is very much. I. Legend in the sense the we don't necessarily get in the modern Di di purely nostalgia full not just nothing forest is for what we talk. About the starts talking about the style is podcast podcasting air of a specific ply way Diouala of a level above and anyone that was pretty much involved in your not six for me takes on both level and for this particular Tain Club, etc. But in regard to his managerial period, which very small section that we're looking at it, just go onto, manage them in the championship and we could talk about this for very long periods home he begun. For another hour we literally about to wrap this up at this particular point in time. But if you look Ischia Pacers record in the championship as encapsulated in the, he stops really really well on the old tiles off and the reason element to suggest that he is one of the epitome of comes in 'cause everyone g doping going again, and then can't really do anymore after that. He's a great joy to come in for six months but. Realistically speaking you know not necessarily planning for the long time and there are reasons for that because obviously when someone comes after six months and does really well, you want them to jail for a long period of time but aid English fobel dare of tactics, which we've not very spoken advice todd days because there aren't ready thought much to talk about it and it's just a case evoke derosa on people understand the no will and knowing football. On the stunning football and being able to comprehensively tell that to other people and get them to do that in a very specific way that you want. They're all very different things and I listened to Stuart, Pearce talk and he would might me run to break we'll but it wouldn't might me about football and so within that I always think that like he's so steam in one ago at both decided God I talk necessary think of him as Gary Casper off of the primarily game. 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LADS#147 - No One Wants To Be Fourth

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LADS#147 - No One Wants To Be Fourth

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I am been a piece of shit that I am and drinking Bud Light. But ice it is delicious. And it was the only thing left in my fridge. So a jumped on that like, why don't rice have how the fuck is you doing stewed? I was just telling you right before the podcast started. I am the busiest fuck and be in the world. I am pollinating every goddamn flour. And ruining my fucking allergies. So weird. That's why because these Bs be fucking. On my nose. But yeah, I've been good. I've been fucking crazy. I'm doing my friend's wedding this weekend or Friday shall at the J. Nicole Jay is a lad supporter. So I'm officiating my fifth, wedding, baby. That's five rings on this guy. I'm like, Tom Brady one more. And I am Tom Brady. I got my first month's rent up in Boston taking care of I got fucking trial going on at work. So yeah, I've been meaning to say like sorry guys. We haven't been really posting them much on the social media mean more have fucking sin. Some of the craziest weeks of our? I mean for me, I know more crazy like, you know, building, you know, some, you know, reads and shit. I don't know what you'd build morning. I. Rigs work good. Okay. I'm gonna give rigs you're making like a fucking monster, trucks and shit. I don't know. But this has been to some the craziest, you know, trying to find a job in Boston. Like, I have a place but new job like it's been fucking stressful, man. But you know, I just want to say that the person shout the Jess who's our website person for lads. She's been working hard on the website. So I'd offer still stands if anyone wants to join in on the fun and help us write blogs and keep keep on the lad stuff go and let me know, man. I'm totally open to that. And that would be that'd be really cool. But I feel about Martin I feel bad. I just feel like I've haven't been in full soccer Premier League MU mode just because so much. It's been going on our lives, and we've talked about that how we've been trying to keep up even though like I turned fucking twenty-five like in less than two weeks. And I'm like fuck like holy shit. Fucking adulthood comes at you quick and fast. And we we had this real sad come together come to earth moment a couple of weeks ago when we were talking about how how wild our lives are in the wildness of the premise season or like, I feel like we're not appreciating this as as we should as we could. So just bear with us as we fucking stumbled towards the end of the finish line. I am fucking stoked for the final five games of the season. I can't believe it's wrapping up so quickly. I'm about to cry. But you're all this has been another fucking fun as year, obviously over till the fat lady sings, but thank you all for sticking with a sticking together. And supporting the leads podcast, y'all. Adrian is about to be over Kevin's about be one year older and the proposed about lose another title everything. Hey. Sounded like a really bad green day song like a proven. April and you're a year older. It's like a blink one eight you song. But those right there get some get some chills. All right. Let's let's throw some headlines. Martin I got an all time line from the one in only on Ibrahimovic. Are you ready for this s? So there's lot in after criticizing the VA decision on Houston's goal in the galaxies two one win. He said, maybe the MLS will punish me. But I am the MLS. So don't worry about it. Fucking like let him the king of earth's like given that title guys. He deserves it. Yeah. I mean, just typicals lot. And I mean, the guy is just a walking quote machine and spot the live Martin. I mean, he is the MLS. I mean, he usually is like I've been trying to follow the MLS. And the only things I follow is like when's lines in the headlines. And you know, I if they find him, I you know, thoughts and prayers to them because their their biggest drawl I saw something today where what's it called the NBA ratings are down because LeBron's not in imaginative slot and wasn't an MLS right now. Just imagine could you imagine? I could not I think I wanted one MOS game this year, and it was the L A galaxy versus the union. So if slot was wasn't pain. There goes one audience member, right. There is lawn is so big them. Oh as can't hurt him, basically as law known them. Oh as the MO as belongs to lot now. And there's nothing that can do and in all honesty. This is a perfect scenario because this means law can shape the MLS ways lawn. Once it ends lawns gonna make pretty fucking great league. If you asked me a bunch of Lawton's running around I'd go to every single game. I would I would I think we'd all be pretty scared seeing a lot of signs on the field. Honestly, it'd be a little low terrifying. But Martin moving into more Premier Li news the list of the players of the year have been announced you'll may name for you. Yeah. So okay. Thank you. Yeah. All right. The players are Sergio guero man city Virgil Van Dyke Liverpool Eden hazard from Chelsea saudi-omani Liverpool Bernardo Silva man city where he surly city. Muhammad Salah are PFA player last year is not on the list. So that would cause a little bit of controversy. Low people are upset with this. But you know, I don't I couldn't see like maybe Bernardo Silva, even then I think he's deserving of PFA player shout or on the shortlist. You know what I mean? So I'm pretty fine with this list. Yeah. Man on the only thing that related me. Trouble on this is like you said Bernardo Silva inclusion on the list. But like I like you said give them a shout. You know what? Even if he comes in last place. The kid is fucking dank at soccer needs been improving this entire year under pennies getting a bigger and bigger role in that Manchester City team to the point where he's almost becoming a crucial crucial player for them in. That was not the case last year. And it definitely wasn't the case in the beginning of the season. So I think I don't think he will win it. I don't think he should win it. But I think it's perfectly all right to get the kid a shout. Put him on the list. Through the Salal exclusion. I personally am not too upset over it. Obviously there is some inherent bias there. But I think when you look at Liverpool season this year compared to last year in the impact he he had it as an individual on the Liverpool success of last year compared to this year. You can see nothing even remotely similar to what he did for Liverpool. This year this year living a more complete team. I think the inclusion of Van Dyke and Monay his absolutely warranted. They are absolutely the better to players on that letter poll team this season. So like, I said not a bad list. All in all let the English decide who the balloon door winners. Because apparently, the French can't do listen the English tan so big win for the British right now. Yeah. The whole I want you had to bring that up. I forgot about Luca Madre twin the bound your now won't fucked up got give it all right? Speaking of one of the PFA player nominees were hime. Sterling had a very interesting quote today where hime sterling on the punishment for racist behavior games. He said for the punishment. I'd call for an automatic nine point deduction for racist abuse is sounds harsh. But which fan will risk racist behavior if it might roll gate their team or ruin their title bid. And then I saw a bunch of. I think it was man you and like city fan saying like I'm going to Anfield next week and being racist. Fuck. So. Shout out to that guy. But. Fuck with that penalty. Dude. I, you know, you know, what if you guys wanna be racist will say goodbye three or four places. I can guarantee you that will shut up most of the racist soccer fans. Yeah. A racist might slip in every once in a while. But I guarantee you after the first time that should happen. Nobody's gonna let anything happen again. Nobody wants to lose nine points automatically for the punishment of something off the field nodding involving the team at all. So I'm kind of a fan for that punishment. It's kind of a strong punishment. But at the same point nothing has been done. There's really been little to no recognition by UEFA, the FA or fee for that matter. I think the FA just launched a say, no to racism, social media campaign, and in all honesty, saying with all the Twitter movements and everything else that ain't gonna do shit in the real world Balkan punish the shit out of the team. In that will cause the racist. Supporters daughter shut their mouths or you know, what keep doing it until the fans turn on him and the fans kick him out, and they're not allowed back in the stadium because of the fans and the police I'm about this rain. You got my vote. Yeah. I think I totally agree with your point everything else has been just like a slap on the fuck and wrist hasn't done anything to quell is that the word stop any of this racist. You know, behavioral games being monkey chance. Be bananas thrown on the field. Be antoine. Greece. Been doing black face, you know, tons of examples, but you know, I imagine a team in the relegation battle getting a nine point. She's Jesus Christ. Imagine if like. Oh, a magic Darby in. I think twenty two thousand nine season they only had ten points to end the season. Imagine at the finish the season with one point that would be a spectacle bar. None. All I. Yeah. Would you have Lincoln weighed? So if you could have this is just like a dumb question, but say they had like, you know. Had only gotten like five points somehow. And then you get a nine point deduction. Could you have minus points? Zero a true zero or can you did lower? I know you can have a negative goal differential were some no can you at two points tallies. Can you have negative points? Because if so. Ooh. My I suggest we start adding negative points to random aspects of the game. You get two or more writing cards over the course of a month as a team, you get a negative one point make it ruin arresting normally fucked up soccer's viewed I think we'd just ruined soccer. But imagine that like day one of the Premier Li next year some team gets them racist drug asshole. And then they started they start off the season minus nine. Get it in the community and they'd going to season minus nine. It's it's fucking born. So normally they're at the top because their names the first now for goals this. But now they're at the bottom with negative non blondes all I could be doing than ABI such shit Homa. God that'd be amazing. All right before we get into the games Martin. I just had one more little little fun stat for you. Are you ready? Leeds united. Went to the champion's league semifinal in two thousand one. This is just a reminder Martin that despite spending a combined two point five billion. Neither PS g nor man city have gone further than Leeds United in the Champions League. Fucking jokes clubs man sitting on PS, g leaders all also squirreling away their automatic promotion to the Premier League. So Kev, we might have to pick another team because leads is our current incumbent when Huddersfield puppies those away. And now we're gonna put our lads curse on them. So quick I feel bad for leads. So they might not wanna come up because they're definitely getting sent back down when we pick them next year from Martin let's start off with we're not gonna start off of our teams. I'm going to bring them Lynn. Let's just talk about the what was supposed to be the big match of the weekend man city versus Tottenham at seven thirty AM east coast time that was a rough one to wake up to Jesus Christ. But it was not the goal fest. We thought it was going to be the match ended one nil Tottenham had a shout for a penalty. But this was a true test for city to bounce back after being knocked. Out of the Champions League. And like, you know, titled like the centurions of last year, they've proven that you know, they're not going to get knocked down there. They're going to get back up that song again down. But I that that's them. That's that. They're good to go there fine. Yeah. I woke up for this before work, and I was hoping for a goal fist to keep me away in in that early fucking morning. But obviously feel folded the youngster the true Manchester City academy graduate opened the scoring in the fifth minute. After a gorgeous ball to guero who nodded across goal for Phil fold into dive on the bag of it. And that woke me right up. I thought we were in for another tree another fucking crazy outing, and it kind of let me down afterwards yet there was action sprinkled through ios open game again. But I just don't think you can go from the performance that city Tottenham gave him Wednesday to the weekend in replicate that. But I thought the biggest story line was the Spurs losing a Hugo Louise early in the in the first half with a replacement coming on and ending up doing a pricky fucking damn good job for the Spurs. Especially in the latter stages of the game when Manchester City was just piling on. So I think this can be considered a huge win for pet. Manchester City showed them that. Yeah. They lost on aggregate on Wednesday. But they are still the better team. They showed the world that yet the Premier League is obviously my bread and butter. This is what I do. And there does not seem to be any signs of letting up leading the foot off the gas in the Premier League for Manchester City, which bodes huge fears for me today Wednesday for the Manchester Darby 'cause I don't think it's going to be pretty we'll we'll get the may just United shortly because the geez. Sus Christ Martin we've got a lot of talk about. But I will say the biggest stand out for me was the unselfishness of Sergio guero in the box because he had an open header in under like Manuel. Pellegrini. I could totally see it just it didn't seem like a guero. Just a lob it off to the youngster Phil photo. And so that was really I was just like no fucking white. Because when I saw him wide open the box. I'm like, oh where was going to score back. Then the easy to see him. Like, you know, just like we'll join over. I was just I was a loss for words. Martin. I didn't know what even to say. I was just like, oh, this is this is the like, I think it finally hit me like this is the pep effect. I think I've finally seen it in action like live. Yeah. And and not managing that the level of Skillet. Took to look at the ball understand where your position is where the goal is read Goldie is in that split second of time decide to not put the ball net. But to pass it over to a streaking teammate. I mean that level of skill is just the Trojans. It's disgusting. It's it's scary and Sergio aggressively almost almost perfected that shit. And obviously that was the goal that put city ahead and kept them ahead. But it was not for lack of trying by sun by Lucas. There were plenty of fucking Spurs opportunities. I thought the Spurs could have capitalized on three to four of them, especially son. I thought Edison didn't much better job in this game than he did last game. But to me, I still think there may be a little bit of concern for Edison. Obviously he has a phenomenal record at man. Chester city. I think he has is leading the clean sheets along with Allison. But his positioning is super fucking for forward. You saw it in the Tottenham game in the week last week in the Champions League. When son got the first goal. How far Audi is? And it looks like son and co were getting closer and closer to hitting the back of their nets and just through personal mistakes or Edison goalkeeping they were camped out. So I don't think city was the dominant force. But I do think they deserve this victory at the end of the day. Maybe guero it was for twenty was a little, you know, had a little bit of schmead who's feeling a little, you know, little lightheaded. What's the so I don't know a great win for city. I don't think Tottenham should be. If you're Tottenham fan. Don't be beating yourself up. I mean, you're into the semi finals of the Champions League dog like. Like, I don't think there's any. Yeah. I don't see you have you know, going back to the ad again. It's it's I mean city losing it at the ad is like literally impossible on her pep and even before about greenie, so Martin let's talk about the other Manchester team we have to we have to. All right here, we go four nil. Everton Man United at Goodison Park. Martin. I'm gonna let you have the floor. What the hell happened? Oh, is it complete embarrassment of from start to finish? I woke up for this game. Accidentally. I thought it was on eleven. So thank God. I woke up at eight in put it on immediately regretted it from the absolute beginning, the Everton infield, the Everton forward in the Everton defence were clearly v first and the second to the ball. They were thinking ahead. They were thinking with stayed with attack. They were thinking out muscle help play out speed this man, Chesnut teams. And they did that from the first whistle to the laugh and in all honesty. It was embarrassing. It was pathetic end soldier had basically that to say in the post game presser. But there are a few instances where you could just see the absolute gaping Foltz cracks in this Manchester United team. One is in the mid field with Fred manage pug combination. It's it's pretty trash it appears that managed cannot only play as the central holding midfielder defensive midfielder or with Andrew Herrera. He cannot play with Martha. He cannot play with Fred he cannot play with Pereira. He James just real quick all she like manage can't track. Anybody like he literally disliked people. It is run by him. And I think it goes it was the second goal that guilty secured since strike if you watch that goal. You can watch the ball being spread out to him on the left hand side of the field. He is the closest clar-. He's about ten yards from gopher cigarettes in and then the to Manchester United central defenders were tucked in behind manage expecting manage to pressure the ball as literally anybody who's played a wink of soccer with no pressure the guy with a ball. But he does the opposite. He sits back he leads cigarettes takes takes face and really get to about five yards outside of the eighteen and Ripa discussing curler into the bottom corner of the net, and that shot should have never been loud to happen. Guilty cigarettes in should have never been allowed to press forwards. There was no pressure on the ball. I don't know why the fuck manage along with the the defenders behind were not pressuring him. If I am a Senator defender on icy my holding midfielder stand off from the other teams probably most dangerous player who is known to have a wicked right-foot. I would be screaming pressure him. Get the fuck on him. And there was nothing. There was no communication. There was no sense of urgency end that goal was in microcosm to the plethora of Manchester. United problems defense split open immediately from a wide spreading ball, no pressure on the ball. Handler no pressure on the ball handler as he dribbles. Eight takes his shot knows chance of deflecting the ball or getting in front of the ball. And it's just the perfect shot to. Hey, could not do anything about that ball. And after that manages felt worse and worse and the United team the United players there's spirits fell. And so did their performance and what I have decided their performance falling funky doing that. There's a reason you are paid big money. It's so you don't get. Affected by your poor spirit. Your performance is what matters. I don't care if you're feeling all shitty. And sorry for yourself as long as you're trying. You're fucking hardest. I don't care if Manchester United loses four zero I really don't if if mansions nodded played the way they played against PS g in the second leg and lost four zero. Fuck it. I do not care at least I know they left everything on the field. But that was sadly, not the case. It hasn't been the case. And I think all the Gomersall are really strikes truth when he says, I am going to be successful for Manchester United. There are players on this team that are not going to be part of that successful team. And I think he hit the nail on his head. I texted you Sunday night after Sunday afternoon after the game. And I said there needs to be a coal there needs to be urge there needs to be a famous there needs to be a vendor's whatever they knows endgame. Whatever that concern. Yeah. More. Well, you know, what I'm talking about where like half the fucking population dies. That's what needs to happen at Manchester United and don't restrict it to the dressing room. Bring it up to the staff level to the executive staff level because I guarantee you when an apple is rotten it as rotten to the core. I read a super fucking interesting article about how the glazers now want to emulate Liverpool and their their success story. So to speak about how they brought in Klopp how they did not target huge superstar names, and that is what does need to happen. But before all that needs to happen. There needs to be a coal pep. Did it when he came to mand city clocked it over the years at Anfield a successful teams? These successful managers are allowed to bring in the players. They want they want not the club ones. Not the board wants they want and. Dorney allowed to do that soldier needs to be allowed time three to four years of not going after the most expensive signing the fucking flashier signing by a fucking Declan rice from West Ham by fucking Michael Keane, from Everton by these kids, these English kids these kids who had proven that they can play in the print and start filtering them in you have to look at this long term. Don't get at it like immediate success like Chelsea Manchester City to extent. They can fucking plugging in play easy peasy because that's how their team was built in the first iteration of city in Chelsea plug in a great manager. Plug in these great players make the system work teams like arsenal Liverpool. Manchester United or much different. They need a solid foundation in if this is the biggest part or biggest piece of praise I can give to Liverpool than I don't know what it is because Liverpool under cloth and under the the family the American family whose name is escaping. My head right now who owns them. They have done a phenomenal job of looking to the long-term looking at the players. They want for the long term that type of culture. And that's what teams like mine and yours need to emulate because we are not Chelsea we are not city. We can't get the best players put system yet. The best coach it has to be thawed out. And Manchester United are seeing all the cracks in their attempts of plug n play over the past year's end and truly that four zero defeat. Pardon me is okay with it fucking show. How shit it is show? How rotten it is fucking time to fix this mess, the Manchester United way the old school way. Not this new age way nominee. Yeah. Holy shit. Martin you just sorry. Sorry. Just sorry to still pent-up Chit. I just I didn't want to interrupt with the same time. Like, I I was just gonna be like, I'll just you know. I didn't know what to do. I was just like, you know, I I wanted to myself. I guess. Yeah. Just to sit here and just fuck myself. I just wanted to, you know, get up on your soapbox. You're off it. Now. I'm glad you got it all out. I think you know. I think you're I think you're right. Okay. Char had come out and had very damning words for the players. He said if you wanna play at this club, it has to mean more, and I think that's you know, from a guy who knows it first hand for what it means. The flavor Manchester United you think he would be the first. No, no. I just wanted to say credit to Everton because they came out that play they showed up they played phenomenally. I mean, I I forget who it was. There was some commentators said when THEO Walcott scoring against you. What are you doing and as an arsenal fan? It's like where to fuck was this and also. Yeah. Like this fucking guy who's supposed to be our next on who. So on res number which I why? Yeah. People forget. Anyway, I am also a bit guilty secrets the fan because he was a swan, and he was from Swazi well weezer mice, Linda, but you know, what I mean? But Martin do you think it has to do like you're saying there has to be this purged this book in great exodus of players. And I think it's being shown because before it was like, oh, it's all marina this Marino's fall. He's the cancer. He's what's wrong. And then soon as soaks are comes in who's kind of like, you know, a part of the club seems like kind of a nice guy. Approachable a player is. Well, I mean, marina was a player by thing. You know, I think so people relate more to soak shar, they actually know his name is terms of legendary status. You know what I'm saying? And there was kind of like, you know, he had that whole was like eight game winning streak or ten that crazy record as manager coming in into the Premier League in the feels like it's kind of the lights gone out. It's kind of deflated and the players of kind of resorted back to like how it was. You know, just what was it like three or four months ago with Marino like three months ago? So I think it's definitely an attitude thing, you know, I think these players are just, you know, not up to scuff. And I think there has to be like you said the gotta go you gotta get. I think I think it was a Gary Neville or in a couple of other United players have come out and comments as saying like these guys don't deserve to wear these fucking jerseys that got a fucking go. Yeah. And I lodge Gary Neville whose commentary after the game. And then some of his other commentary on on a later Sky Sports show. And if you are embarrassing your former players to the extent that this Manchester United team is guys let's talk about sex good sex. Remember the days when you were always ready to go. Now, you can increase your performance and get the extra confidence in bed. Listen up blue dot com. That's blue like the color, blue blue dot com. Brings you the first Shuba if the same FDA approved active ingredients as Viagra and Silas. So you know, they work you can take them anytime day or night even on a full stomach and since they're Chewable they work up the twice as fast as a pill. So you can be ready. Whenever an opportunity arises. 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I just hear about it on the radio like every fucking day. So I know the content right? All right, man. It's fine. Twenty nineteen. Yeah. True. True. Big fan of Mary toe cocoa. But. Gary Neville's point was something that I truly agreed with he went through the Manchester United squad, and basically said who should remain who should go and let me just run through a couple of these names with you. The heya obviously upping stays smuggling. Let him the fuck go Jones. Let him the fuck. Go Linden loss. Let him stay actually encourage them to stay. He's he's trying to become a good defender. Luke Shaw, stay pulp Hauge. Stay madij dawn. Fred gone marchisio. Stay Lukaku, gone Radford. Stay the lawn gone fucking. Pereira gone Alexi Sanchez, gone Malta gone Jesse then guards day, so literally out of this fucking fifteen team fifteen person lineup that went to Everton four or five of them should actually be wearing a Manchester United color, and and that should be a fucking huge warning sign where the common fan like me. And you understanding can absolutely see that fucking Chris Mullin should not be playing in the same defense that Rio Ferdinand played in that that's just fucking that should be a absolute fact mattress should not be in the same position that Paul schools was Lukaku should not hold would Wayne Rooney's position fucking. Fred should not hold Fletcher's position. I I can go through the list that even the worst Manchester United players of the past things need to be. Change in a Manchester United. Yes, bef- before we get to you know, my team are endless. You know? Talk about another red team. We're going to get the arsenal. Who don't you worry? We're going to get the fucking gunners Liverpool with a confident win over Cardiff City who are fighting for their lives in the relegation battle. If you look at the stat sheet Liverpool dominated this every single way when autumn with the ridiculous just fucking hit in the box that ball mice. He'll be traveling in another penalty given to Mohammed Salah, you know, all send out all the dive memes, you one and James Milner who is more clutch than that in between water at the bar. I think I tweeted out that you know, you need that like little lake sneaky water in between drinks because if now you'll just be fucking it'll get better it'll get ugly fast. So you know, it was crazy watching this game going. No, no at halftime. The liverpool. Cool in the past this late in the season or other teams competing for the title would have faltered, and I just never had doubt in them are and they just look so good on the ball. You just could like you could just smell the goals coming. Yeah. Man. It's really awesome. Watching this Liverpool team. In this late stage of of the prim where all stakes are on the line, literally if you draw points, you're out, and they keep raising to the task they keep fucking getting it done. However, it needs to be done. And this game was no fucking different. They dominated this game. And obviously zero zero at halftime, but you could just smell. You could sense. This goal was coming. This Liverpool goal was coming in. And then it just happened. Then the floodgates opened. And basically, that's what Liverpool is so fucking good at just hammering on the opposition until they break, and then they're going to break again. And again, and again, I n and yeah, I just think this Liverpool team is a really really fucking solid squatters a whole from their obvious starting eleven their defense is probably one of the strongest defenses in the premiere. Lead to the midfield to their attack. But also their bench is fucking stacked Rhett to go. Always coming on trying to change something in the game. And this was no fucking different urine. Klopp has also lenders at Liverpool firing hord fast hot. And I it's just get me. Happy. Get me excited to see how the fuck this toddler is gonna end up because right now, both the Manchester City and the Liverpool or rising to task fucking getting done. Fucking scorned. A lot of losses. Lot of pretty fucking goals in lot of dirty fucking goals against their opposition enforcing the amulet forcing this other team to make mistake. And now all the fucking pressure is on city. They obviously play tomorrow Liverpool got their job done they break to this weekend. And I gotta congratulate fucking Milner on being the most. Cluj penalty taker since Andre his pillow, probably even a better than Andre his pure, sure. Sure, I'm pretty sure if James Milner heard that he'd be like ride may don't even put me in that kind of that. Right. It'd be fucking denied he'd be like. Okay. Okay. But I'm not really that. Good. I appreciate it. Like, okay. Thanks, James Milner down to earth. I wonder like how like him and his I don't know if he's married, but how him and his wife would like fight like James. You didn't take out the trash like ROY? I'm so sorry. I'll do that. Now. I don't I can't get mad at that. James? All right. Like, I can't imagine like them fighting and be like James get your feet off the coffee table you stupid. Fuck of right. Love me. Right release. Sorry. Yeah. No. Yeah. Totally right here. I'll go get into offi table right now. Let me go to the store and get us a new coffee table. I've absolutely ruinous one love soiled completely soiled it. Yeah. James is a fucking stand up. Dude. I'm just you know, I'm so excited for I mean, I don't want this season to end. You know what I mean? But I just I want it. It's a game of thrones. Like, I need to know who wins it. You don't he wanted? And but you need to know how it ends, exactly. Like when I saw Jack Leeson king Joffrey tell me how it ends come on. Just tell me how fucking ends, but you know, throw. Yeah. Dude, man. I can't game of thrones fucking vendors endgame. There's so many good things happening right now Jesus Christ. But let's move. Let's know congrats Liverpool. I don't see you guys slip in the rest of the season. I don't I don't mean as upon no pun intended. I'm just saying I see you guys going. It's man cities titled to lose and Martin. We'll get to our predictions on the Manchester Darby, but I I'm very interested to see what you have to say. You don't have to hear for me. Nobody wants to hear what I have to say about Manchester City, smoking, Manchester United. Let's let's move on to another realm of paying Kevin and not my room of pain. Let me side step this fucking shit that I have to deal with tomorrow into what you had to deal with on fucking Sunday. I'm sorry Saturday loose. Arzu sunday. You're right. You're. Ars? No versus Crystal Palace chance to move into third place. And like my dad loves to say or SNL always snapping snatching defeat at the jaws of victory. Kev, fucking added. Let me hear it. It's the hope that kills you. It really is. It's just you know, it's an that's an all time arsenal quo in late. The thing is like I was bragging all year about how fucking gray our home record is just throw that out the window. Just toss it rewrite the fuck in history books. Wipe the whiteboard. This is I just gotta say fuck Mustafay. Like, I'm not going to put all the blame on him. Biggest waste of thirty five million dollars ever Martin like I'm just trying to think of things more valuable. I could get with thirty five million dollars. I could have like thirty dollars. I can have thirty five million peeps for Easter. I'd rather have that. I'd rather have thirty five million double A batteries. Actually, you'd only probably get like ten of those five million. Actually, you can probably get more than thirty five million six if you were to buy looses or you could buy. Like, a normal person and get more than thirty five million or. Thirty million beards. I'm just trying to think what you could buy thirty five million. That would not be missed offi because pretty much anything you buy with that would be more more than Mustafay Jesus Christ. I hate I hate thinking about like the actual price of players because it makes me think of oh shit. How much can you buy with thirty five million dollars? And I just go down this wormhole of thinking what if I could buy a person for thirty five million dollars. You're going to hear something even more depressing. I saw on the news today. Some twenty four year old hit the fuck in mega jackpot lottery for seven hundred eighty million dollars in go fucking. So he's a piece of shit. Yeah. Yeah. They should never leave reveal the photo of whoever won the lottery Gleich. That's my big thing. If I if I ever win the lottery like I'm just going to go hide forever. Because I of course, you're gonna get robbed like that makes sense. But I wish Mustafay would win the fucking lottery. So I can rob him Jesus. Fuck like, so let's break this game down when Ben tech as Gordon against you. Remember him Martin, Ben Peccais? Twenty sixteen Kev. Did he score versus? Oh, he did. Oh, no. Donovan, you know. And then you're like, oh, well Oto gets on the go scoresheet nice one. But it just we just got like dominated this whole game. And then when you have wolford's Czaja James MacArthur right after another just dropped my jewel shit. I'm drinking it with my LaCroix PBR. So oh, I hate you so much more than Liverpool right now. Kevin that's hard. That's actually. That's a full. Hey, it's difficult. But the fact that like we brought it within a goal with seventy seven minutes. I'm still like we're gonna lose this game. Like, we haven't looked gray this entire Madge. And if you just look at like, this is such an arsenal stat line. Are you ready for this Martin? Yeah. We had seventy three percent of the possession. But Crystal Palace had more shots more shots on target. And it's it's so fucking typical arsenal, you know. And I hate to say it. I just you know, there's got to be a lot has to go. I'd like I really thought lane has been doing great for us like our goalie, but he just getting no help I feel like. I I don't even know where to fucking begin with this club. And like I like at least we're in the European league semi final. Which is, you know, saying something like it's like a nice. But like, I really think that this in top four race, whatever you're gonna call. It is just become a big game of hot potato like now, or like, you know, like back in like middle school, you'd be like with your girlfriend like you hang up. No, you hang up. No, you hang up. That's what they're doing right now. But it's a three way you hang up. I. And it's a real shitty version of Dan to it's it's everybody doesn't want to hang up. I that's the problem. Nobody wants to get into these champion league spots arsenal Tottenham Chelsea or United. And everybody's just trying to shit the bed harder than the other teams and ours. No, I gotta say Kev. I was the exact opposite of you. When you guys pulled a goal bag on through ozo-. I was just like okay arts an arsenal was at was called them Hartson like Oso fucking dummy. I myself, I truly did think that you guys would be able to pull a back at least get a draw out of it. Because of how strong you have been under unite entry at home at the emerets. But I truly think that what did you end was the missing of one player, and this is gonna be real fucking shitty. Because this player is no longer with you come the end of the season. I think the loss of Ramsey who you guys haven't had in the past. Fucking hurting you because as shit lung would have it. He has really been coming into his own under unite Emory justify talking bail and who came in who fucking replaced Aaron Ramsey. Fuck L nanny, and then jenkinson featured in the fucking midfielders to. So. So it's it's almost like two steps forward. One step back for our snow and feels like and this is a game. I really thought you guys were going to win. I continue to think until like the eight minute that you guys were going to win or draw. And like, you said Kev, you know, what they say about arsenal. Saying always try law get in God it the IT crowd. Anyway, one of the greatest episodes of the it crowd. God damn I love that show then in between God fucking image winners fair. You know, I just couldn't fucker because my Cox was too big. Simon's mom, stone, cold FOX and the one guy is a pedophile. What do they call? It's so funny. I can't remember what it's going. They either call him a Pedo or or gay, right? Yeah. He's gay. Yeah. God if you ever watch in between just stop what you're doing. I think it's on Netflix such a fucking. Of like three seasons of TV shows every single one is fan fucking tastic if you'd like British humor, it's it's super weird. It's so weird. But it's so funny. Oh my God. When he pukes all over the kitchen, so. After drawing I love you in chalk on her driveway. God guys, if you know, you know. Man that that pains me so much that like Ramsey is. Now, the answer that arsenal needs and he's fucking gone. You know, how much it just so arsenal? Can we please get rid of any all these old Arsene Wenger who thought we're going to be fucking wonder kids and just suck. Like, I get it on any that great goal against Barcelona in the Champions League. We still lost like four one people. Forget. I people about the reality of that game to like, oh, well, people are so still hanging onto the member owned any had that ridiculous strike is. Like yet. Do you know, we got our asses kicked in by Barcelona that game, man? I I really don't I really do like Emory, and I still think he's done a fucking fantastic job with his first season with arsenal. But this is just this is just pitiful this whole away for this whole like getting down on themselves this there so seems to be some lingering winger 'isms this. Oh, yeah. This needs a purge. I mean, the style is still good. I still love how we're playing is. Just like, I think it's just the attitude Sony's like some, you know, someone needs to guess lap on the ass or something, you know. But all right. Let's move on to another team who decide who decided that they don't wanna win in in being the Champions League Chelsea versus Burnley to to affair Gonzalo. He we had the weirdest celebration where he ended up getting his face stuck in some titties. Good good for him. I guess but this was a fucking goal fest till four goals in the first twenty four minutes, and then it just became Chelsea doing every single thing. They fucking canned and try and win this game and just couldn't pull through. So does anyone want to win this or win the top four spot? I don't think so. No, absolutely not especially after those. From in the in the beginning of the game. I was just like, okay, everybody else has lost its only Chelsea chose is gonna fucking somehow sneak in with sake. Sorry into the top four hell, they might even get third place. And I don't even know what to believe Israel, and then fucking my boy Jeff Hendricks scored a rip tastic fuckin- volley from the edge of the eighteen pass Kappa. And the game was on. I was just like okay shit. Nobody wants to win this obviously Chelsea God two goals back in quick succession. And at that point. I was like, okay. Chelsea woke up the games done games. Over Burnley got a back. And I gotta say both of Burnley's goals came off set pieces. Joses defense look fragile the entire game when it came to set pieces. Once again kept my feel like a broken record here. This is. Another fucking team who almost needs a purge date, coal get this is a team that has a bunch of players that are lingering from previous managers. Fuck it. I think some of these players go back three managers at Chelsea. So this Josie team needs to be fixed. I don't know of saris the one to do the job correctly in this game. Again, this should have been easy Chelsea victory. But it was not. And it seemed like Burnley his back to what Burnley does best. Eat worms in defend defend defend and score off set pieces. Fucking welcome back to the big leagues Burnley. I think every time I see Burnley's score off a set piece Martin. I just wanted. I just think of that mean more it's like the hand slapping the nut button. That's me. Yeah. Yes. Bringing me m- humor to the podcast. Yeah. Everytime. Burnley scores off a consent piece. I'm just like. Yes. That's the men to be. Yeah. It's what it's what Burnley does. It's I don't know. I mean nice draw for Burnley. I mean, but Chelsea yeah. There's a whole sorts of problems going on here and alleviates rude who I might say has the same amount of European goals. Top European goalscorer as Lino Lino messy ten in ten just saying. Yeah. I feel like we're gonna look back in two routes going to be one of the most underrated strikers of all time. I'm just saying I really love he had fucking talk. How important it was in the World Cup? We're gonna look back on that ten years from now I realize one we're under appreciated geniuses. And so it is. So is route is World Cup performance. Should put him in the hall of infamy at the very least. He was brilliant, quietly brilliant infamy. I is that the right? I think that's bad. Isn't it? It it sounded right? If you don't know what that is don't Google it. Okay. Just don't stop stop right now. You wanna title Montpellier, FA cups, an arsenal? I mean World Cup. I think the guy he's like, I think the third highest goalscorer in France history or fourth something like that. The guy's a fucking ledge. I don't care. He's the most beautiful man to do it. So fuck all y'all preach. Kevin prank. You. Defend alluvia. Do I got I I mean, I have his arsenal jersey. So I have to. Imagine a Livia in the center of a top three with Alba in lock on each side. I would fuck with formations nut hit the button. All right, good. Let's moshe. It is scared. The Popper Ono song. Paul martin. Let's move into some fan questions. Are you ready? Yeah. I am. All right. This is coming from our Instagram. Give us a follow at lads podcast. This is a question from last week, which I it was sent to our messages not like when they answered the question on our stories. So I forgot about it. But I screamed shot it. And I said I would say it for this episode of here. The fuck I am ready. Yeah. This is from C Molinski. He says guys with the Drake curse striking down yet. Another time. This is from a man city fans. So he's referring to the Champions League match. He says, I think this brings up an important subject preparation. What is the emergency protocol? If I'm scrolling social media before one of my teams games in see a pick of Drake wearing jersey of one of the players on said team. Do I not watch? Do. I not watch the game. Do I just carry on? Do I grab a go bag and just head to the hills of North Carolina and incomplete in completely ditch social media like Martin oughta gather, I don't know. I actually have a better solution than all of those. Although you are more than welcome to join me in my hermit lifestyle. Last push a t the entire game. That is the only metal heat and override the Drake Kerr's pushing t basically makes drank a powerless. Yeah. He he just says baby's name. And Drake's just like, oh, curses gone. Yeah. People forget that Drake. Did a black face. So don't forget. Yeah. So pushing it. Yeah. Push push a called shit out. Yeah. Dude. When you see that? That's just a that's just bad news bears. I just I get the willies chills. And when a team loses in a bad manner. I'm just like, I just wait for social media on Twitter. Just a spam of pictures with Drake with one of the players. It's phenomenal. It's phenomenal. All right next. Question comes from our Twitter. Follow us at lads podcast. Lads underscore podcast, whatever Frank Lucas at underscore Mamo. Chon underscore. I think I said that right? Do. Do you think? Manchester United will lose any players as the rumors are saying, and then he hasn't parentheses pug, Marcio or rash furred. So Marin I'm under the impression you think you're going to keep all of them. I've been hearing a lot. I just saw on ESPN FC today that Marcial was apparently out not officially, but that's like the big hot topic. But out of these three who do you think is most likely I think I was we've seen rumors and whisperings of all three of his players the most notably being punked by Real Madrid rash for to Barcelona and before marchisio signed his his contract extension back in November. It was more Sheldon PS. Gee, I think rash furred is main born Umbro read, I think he's gonna stay. I don't think any club can take him away in all honesty. I think Radford has that old school mindset that that you stay with your fucking club. More shale. He just signed a contract extension in November. So I really don't see him leaving the only player that I could see leaving is Paul pug, and that may be incredibly fucking clear with you. This is obviously gonna create some type of controversy but out of those three players, Paul Pogue. But is who I'm most content with letting go and the reason being is because I know, for fact, Marcus rash, furred bleeds, red he born in Manchester. He's been a Manchester United player is entire life. I know he is fully committed to the Manchester United team and fuck it use all how he played under Louis van Gaal. You saw how he played under Jose Marino. UCLA plays undersoil char. The boy tries is fucking hardest. The boy has played through sickness in injury. I don't see him leaving marchisio. He just signed a contract. Extension logical thinking says he ain't leaving. Hauge? I dunno dude. I could seem leaving in the next couple of years. I hope he sticks around is a huge part of soil Kiara vision. But I think he is most likely to leave, and I'm not all that cut up about it, yet Marshall is an interesting one. I can't read the guy because he doesn't smile. So I don't know. But I feel grassroot will stay in pug buzz, also iffy. But the next question from Belan betted Bennett at Belan underscored Bennett, he said who would you rather have on your team in defense Van Dyke? I guess he's the best need no other options. Okay. I guess this is a pick them so in the midfield. Martin. Would you rather have pug, bud, debris Ericsson hazard or Kante while I guess Conde is is very different from the other those hazard. Yeah. He's hazard plays more on the wing. So I guess it would be between Paul by the pro in Ericsson. I that's that's actually a hard tossup. I would if I could get a healthy, debris. I'd probably pick to Brenna. Yeah. I was about say that if I could get a healthy to broin out. I'd pick the Brown. But this this year has been horrible for him. Unfortunately in terms of injuries. So I got it. I I gotta choose Derek in. Kevin. I gotta choose Ericsson. If I'm taking everything into context, I think Ericsson is the most consistently best player out of all of them right now. Yeah. Ericsson's been top notch men. He's been fucking phenomenal. So I would have to be you know, right there with ya. I think he's just so crucial to that Tottenham side. And just not in creative goals. Just you name it. I mean that little from whoville whoville. Does it all so and then forwards sterling Sante Mondays Salah, Lukaku rasping, son or Lorenza? I think those final few. I'm not too sure why they're included. But I mean, I guess on. But I don't think kitchen giggles. I jus I can I do too for. Of this question to do to for I'm gonna pick sterling and son. No, I like that. I would I would have picked sterling as my number one. I would probably pick sterling in money. I fucking love. There's those two are just so fucking bad ass. I would love to have them on my team. Dear just so dynamic, and they can create it can score and they're just so athletic. It's unbelievable. So. Schindler, dude. Sterling and Monay where son is he's kind of a slower player if that makes sense like he slows the play down where Rehim beats you because he's so fucking quick not just physically, but mentally he knows what the fuck is going on before you do and same with Monay. So just because of a little bit of variety. I'm gonna I'm gonna go with sterling in and sunny. I like it. I like it a lot. All right last question is from our discord channel if you like to join just messages, so one of our social media's our Facebook, which is pop in. I think that's almost up to fourteen hundred. I think you've passed fourteen hundred followers on that Twitter. We've would we just passed the thousand which is wild and Instagram, which you know, that's a lot harder to do social media. But were around five hundred with that join our discord channel, it's a place where people who like the show who like soccer who like drinking who like other sports in American sports, just come out to hang out and talk shit. The question is from Brian Inge Elino, he said, what's the most German name of all time? And I had actually responded in the chat because this is a conversation before and more in. I said bastions Schweiger good boy good, man. You have learned from the soccer garage. Well, Kevin bashed in. Yeah. I gotta agree wholeheartedly. Yeah. I mean. I can't think of a more German name. I mean, that's pretty up there. A couple of people made jokes said Adolf, and I'm like. That's true. A couple a couple of other people. Oh cringes. Mc basketball, one of our discord channel people said the most dusty of all time is close Joan hunter lar-. It is. I mean, put this in the honorable mentions for Germans. Miroslav closer. Good one hitter. She might go. Faulk in Michael Ballack like that doesn't sound German. But by the way, the commentators used to say his name that's on a German shit like black and that cinema lull. Low bit of German fear through me Marin per murder soccer. Great. Yes. Yes. That's that is a solid Germany the cunning stunt said France on Thuan Beckenbauer Beckenbauer. Yeah. Yeah. And Mathis I can't pronounce that guy's name. Yeah. It's Lothar mafiose M A T T H a US with the funny. A with the two dots. I don't know what that's called. But it's called something when they put the fancy like the you with the two dots above it. I don't know what that's called the fancy dogs. Yes. Of course, ES. But I think I think my winner has to be bashing swine Steiger, which doesn't mean pig killer. I thought it did. But I guess not I told you that for years. I. That's such a bummer, dude. Like. Fuck. I mean, but yeah. Bachelors wanting Salgar definitely most German name of all time, we should do that like go through like, what's the most English names of all time? Probably John Terry, John Kerry or a Wayne bridges. Knows that name. Well, don't you boy Heo you drink water? Yeah. Daniels drink water. That's that's a classic British once. God. That's that's so fucking good. All right. Well, guys, that's our episode. We will see you Friday. I will be doing a wedding that day. But Thursday night, we will be with you to cover everything Premier League. Over the Manchester. Darby Marne was your prediction for the Manchester Darby real quick before we close out. Ooh. Three zero Manchester United. Okay. So mantra. So so Liverpool Liverpool fans Virgil Van Dyke. Adequate this week said like they need to do. So. Yeah. Talking about Manchester United. They need to do themselves a favor, not us or whatever. And also so all of Liverpool. My God Martin. I mean, you do want to win this game. Right. Yeah. But I know we're probably not like it's that famous. Would you rather die or be killed? And I I don't know. Kevin. I I really don't know. Would you rather? Would you rather be hurt or injured? I'd rather be hurt because you can play through hurt. I think that's how that works. That's what my old football coach told me, at least, I don't know. He probably lied to me. Yeah. It sounds like a football coach. All right. Well, love you guys. And we will see you Friday. Bye.

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Liverpool Slip Again

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Liverpool Slip Again

"Welcome into this Monday to ESPN FC. Greg burly, Steve Nicol shock is lots of ashes are with you. Mark Ogden slated to join us as well from outside the London stadium where Liverpool and West Ham met earlier today in game that could very well have significant impact the Premier League title race. Bubbles all the pageantry twenty-second minute. Adam allotted nice little play at I look. Anyway, James Milner, the Saudi money turns in scores. One liberal. Lana does well Milland Israel Saudi money, as well who fails here allies man that farsight James Milner welll side allies outta position flags down from. There's a good cross. I'm not spinning finish for money. Something special. Do you minutes later West Ham, find their equaliser through Antonio Bush smart move from which Tom good obviously release free kick but Liverpool absolutely sleep to get beaten by one little ball in behind. And it's one one forty first minute. Another set piece Declan rights wide open this up to crazy defending from Liverpool. The such a highlight. And then there's nobody blocking the run is just crazy seventy third minute cancer. Wes. Ham, snodgrass, Mark noble. Over the VAR snow drowsy old fines devoutness who does. Really? Well, I think it's coming out for him noble snatches of his effort navigate though over the top about greedy because Ascii style for the full Shane lanes been gets his completely wrong houses review with a horrible attempt. So there you have it west hand Liverpool an angry, you're in cloth. Share the points London stadium as we take a look at the match. That's pretty clear Liverpool the stronger of the two sides, but it is at the end of the day draw. And here's what it means for the top half of the Premier League Liverpool's lead. Then just three points over Manchester City, they'll visit Everton later this week. So could actually have a tie atop the table by Wednesday night. Let's dive in on this Liverpool performance. Where do you wanna start as funny? You should talk about the position starts. You know, we always complained. Haven't possession is one thing in creatine is another Liverpool create enough in this game. The golden goal was all shade the chance to really hard at the end was off shade. And then between those absolutely nothing and fight west hob for as little as possession. They had had the Cutler John's is don't bear particularly cheery too. So this was completely underwhelming for Liverpool. And I'm starting to get a little worried, you know, there were average at best when the crystal polish at home obvious again against lecture hall. Home. And there were even well if I was to say the were obviously in this game. I would be being kind show. I'm getting a little what they have done it into the team who eighteen months ago couldn't beat the teams they had to. The teams that was supposedly the big games. I'm kind of feeling like that. No. I'm not what he'd no big games. These are the states. Again, I'm beginning to what they're but liberal after liberal dropped points against LeicesteR last week. You surprised we didn't see a reaction today. Yes. Because we flows talk very yesterday Manchester City, but James's part or case against one of the bigger teams. But a reaction I was expecting from Liverpool particularly the west team it lost last three games. Turn the league one. When the near call you can look at the engine. He's. Nigga alexan- that I know by Joe Gomez is a huge blow 'cause Matisse doesn't look comfortable. There are no lovers as well. You go Henderson. Oh, we're now them's and even beggared blow. But then I start to worry. Not decatur. Commend with the sane danley. The newest months before he was coming in excitement levels around him quite high hasn't always John's, but just doesn't look as if he's going to produce a form the gentleman. You're gonna look at your your club. Okay. Monday morning quarterback. But Chakib he's been quite good site him from whether they started coming off the bench, and he doesn't play because the item the lot. Not for me didn't work either. And I just think Liverpool don't have the spring in the state that the hod. And GM because Zamboni were wipe and everybody out did just don't have that Stevie. Is there? A just went through the list of Liverpool injuries that are bigger one than Joe Gomez, James Milner at right back. How long is that sustainable for? Milne Sean, he complete full bike. Yeah. I think definitely the the partner for Van Dyke is a problem. I mean, Joe Marty since he's come back from his injury has Lutely Bambi on ice where you could see against lesser a home when it was snow on eluded little heavy footed. But again, and this westbound gay, and he he just looks always not up to it. So from a defensive point of view Liverpool of gone with the shore coal by four by five that we knew we know two team that no looks little vulnerable defensively. And of course, you add we the lack of the lack of peace and creativity going forward. That's a horrible. Because I think we're not given west model greenie enough credit to who live in very organized defensively, and it showed where Sam kinda let themselves donors. I don't think there's any real punch up front on relying on Philippi. Anderson an awful lot of the time though, whenever pool give the set opportunities did to West Ham. That would send alarm bells ringing for me, nor you creativity or punch through midfield which you mentioned to really threaten West Ham. But then it you start to look at the injuries to wonder about players coming back. Can live Apu arrests against teams who will willing willing to sit in Ren. When a couple of players don't show, the most worrying thing is was on when he said there's no pep in the Stanton. You know, when we think you live appeal you think of gone at teams with with pace and poa and quick in and around the bulks one twos. You know, runs and behind you think I think when I think of this Liverpool team at the best the has completely disappeared. I can't remember the last time saw and just briefly corpse. No looking at rep clip. He's talking to referees last week. It was the last game had a point in the list of game last week home because the a penalty most of his belief McGuire should've been sent off. But today, there was an option criminal off-site decision that when way read you head school. They I need was off site. Here's the engineer things. Kenny, folks, let me let me talk about entities and shot mentioned that way. Tom hood midtable team at best of nine right? Looking at Lindsey player read Yarmolenka Milenko sign, and she'll no surprise Simon is remarkable not which nine players oath. So I still expect Liverpool with engineers to I would say less key players to put on a performance than today. We mentioned we have Mark Ogden outside London stadium. Let's bring him in. Now was it as lifeless performance live from Liverpool as it looked on television. Mark. Also lifeless. I do think they missed they missed the spa. They don't let you again. I think against less than last week looks a little bit leggy. It was self game. The conditions were Greg is less than a hangover. I don't know. I just think all parts of the team look from three of the only guys scored the twenty three months. Sellable they let invention to I think at times when the injuries have been beginning of by the team is lucky in the big play. Climates with don't know what mill means you failed. The the really missed the Henderson album managing game manage image field. But you know, when they slide sell off of minimum on have to step up. Well, certainly saw I think salary is going up the ball a little bit. I think this needs to step up again, you know, Aguayo sits it plays rise in the challenges. Then sullenly step up a little bit. Stevie? We are looking at the US PFC player. Ratings for Liverpool today from our Glenn price. You agree with it about. Yes. Don't the Lana on is used to get sick. Because it doesn't do the bully. The one bully played who was to guy who was. So I mean, the biggest price keta. I really I'm shocked. I thought Liverpool would get a dynamic midfield of who could play posses. And who actually chip and we go. Yeah. That's not what we've seen. The lawn is not playing up to level. Kate does not playing level is the death of this team you concern. Well. To be able to play two guys and for beano and keta in the middle of the park when you missing headless in Milner. And when Aldam that tells you go strength and death. The problem is they have to produce and they didn't produce. From the front three basically who have seven and eight defenders around them. That's always going to be tough. Yes, we expect something special from on occasions. But that's always going to be tough. That means that you need something from somebody else and that front three today the middle three today produced nothing they give no help to the front three. What's the easy thing? Is these nothing some I think it will be thrown out there that well Lestari bottle it I think that's just too easy to say. I think what we have here is a team that are. As only L affair Bree games to come the late. Most teams have injuries. I don't think that into do with Baltimore the moment going through some of the players and the boys talk tomorrow just not quite played with the same confidence in the flex one. Tourism quick positon its full in less. It's just not quite coming off. And they're gonna have to fight through this period and less. I don't remember anybody have say it was going to be easy. Even when lever PO had gotten knows never going to be easy to go over the lane so assist about in the last couple of games in particular behind them and moving on and trying to get some confidence back in the team. I don't think I think that's where you're going up comes in here. Nova case of buttoning sitting on the right now as you mentioned much the city had a similar spell through the middle of middle of December. This may be a lack of experience comes in. And we with this Liverpool team not having wanted and how you manage this. This lean spell everybody. Has them in every single season, regardless of where you finish. But no, given the history getting this this fall or this close for Liverpool having want it. How does he pressure? Tell and annot Mark spoke about this week's gone by Sydney onfield, do the crowd also play a part and kind of ramp up that pressure Mohammed Saleh and event for me. Especially for know today soon as he came off your basic like he hasn't done anything. Yeah. And I think that's too don't two things. One is passively. Recent enriching games is given the ball away which so much more than they ever did before. And again, he's not getting any help from anybody else. And then you throw in the fact that teams late west HAMAs Centene what thirty five years, we'll go space, and we talked us off your games best. Then you're gonna lose the ball for me. No. Especially has been doing that. You guys have each. I think mentioned it individually. I don't know that we've hit it hard enough based on the mattress the set piece defending from Liverpool. I mean, every single West Ham's piece was a near worried you I would love to know who decides where the lane starts as the coaching staff as Virgil Van Dyke. I would love to know because. Shushi? I mean, really sure say you're basically, tell them the opposition. And today it was West Ham. The there's a great big hole for you. Stick the ball. And the and we're gonna have a problem dealing with it took advantage. One hundred wasn't even just a case of a big who will all or just pieces. There's one corner where Diop is up against cancer, which is ridiculous from from a set-piece perspective on mount mount perspective, you go into which is why I hate the zone, you go into zoo and everybody everybody's responsible for it. If you've got somebody that I like, you said the open your side, you just go and plant yourself alongside and kids are. And he should've scored it was another fluff chance that Liverpool should have been really no surprise. Then. Today's result had an effect on the Premier League title odds. Now, Manchester City, according to the bookmakers have the slightest of edge when it comes to winning the title shock. You surprise just off one result seemingly finally city is back as a show one result. And think it's a combination of things is more than just one for Liverpool under city had their disappointment last weekend. But when you think of city Ren, you think likes Kevin debris coming back. Okay. It wasn't maybe back to his best this weekend. But that I think if city a huge boost as long as you keep a Kuna grow fit, you just don't see them slowing down mention their spill in December outside of that is only the surprise surprise loss to Newcastle club talking about they ongoing to prioritize in your. In Europe or the league with China's league restarted restarting just have to start to question, livable, guys. What do you think you agree with the bookmakers sitting now the favorite? I'd rather have the three points to be honest. But if you slip up in drawn as opposed to slip up losing pressing big difference, huge difference in fighting a little bit full of point. I'm one hundred percent creek. I would rather have the points all the alone. And and this team is not the team that we spoke about last year who we thought. Jeez. Win going slip-up at no folks, because that's not the mindset. He will him so Liverpool with a points up -solutely take a look at that upcoming schedule for Liverpool pretty daunting. I mean champions against Munich going to be difficult. Let's bring in Mark Ogden. Then Mark just final thoughts on what you saw today. I think created early on. This talk Liverpool Butlin it's a bit premature. And I do think that became opinions to team had lost badly in their last game. And you had to performance the western did little just having a bit of a dip. It's not balling it. They're not choke. And it's just a bit of a dip. And the key plays missing. I just think is one of those nights and they're not gonna win every game. And it's running it's impossible. They're going to be nice. Let this were the home team gets gets the result could have won the game. I think the guy say three point lead and city Bill it's in a way and Chelsea home this weekend that two games in any title season with the home. So to me, I think the favors I do think got the experience I live pull out of favors because they have to three points in and city not convincing enough to to win every game this season. So little just half the edge the that lose policy for me. Well, always glass how food. Wash. Phil Steven today's depends TV in the gym. Judy Gimmel half empty and afterwards. You get a point get she'd you go from two points ahead today do three points, and then the glass half said they haven't been jokes tough. I mean, I would say normally would be a tough game. It doesn't leave such self game. At the moment the way they're leaving themselves open. Never know maybe Marcos over find some so imagine one the next few days on Whiteley. But then the game is Elvis a huge Philemon Israel, and we saw those at work the game. He's quite prepared to do things differently. Well deal is quite prepared. Whether you like not defend coat side the box and try and do some different on these a guy out front who is buying in sale GIO grennell. Shack said it at the top of the show. We didn't give west him enough credit. Let's give them some credit right now as we take a look at the bottom half of the league table where we find west hand there comfortably in twelve. That's where the top of the bottom out. Kinda guy. Here's a look at the latest odds for the top four in the Premier League. Top three pretty much set. You only controversy maybe between four five and six Chelsea right now gone off at eight to thirteen Manchester. United eleven to eight we're gonna focus on those two Chelsea Manchester United. Let's start with Mark Ogden Mark between Chelsea and Manchester United right now who do you see as more likely to end up in the top four. Although the Saudi behind shells to the phone to nine hundred ten I think a more favorable games and they have to play Chelsea ultra before the season finishes. So I go United as well. I think you know Chelsea away from home quite quite flaky. We saw that a bowl with at arsenal. And I think all though he going school two goals of the week ending this field. It was field. And I'm not sure he gains in the best shape as you. And I do think that it'll struggle for goes against the seem. So for me, I think to finish fourth quite comfortable in the end quite comfortably chocolate, you agree as Manchester United the better, those two are that they finished fourth. Whether it's quite comfortably. You're not about matters to you might it. But when you when you look at United they've been playing responded after dropping just a couple of points a couple of weeks ago. I you you kinda see exactly what Manchester United out not just no. But if things don't go there, we I still think there's a lot of concern about Chelsea and in particular merger. Sorry what he says in the? Rest when there's a poor result. I'm not sure how that affects the just room. I just don't see it affecting them, positively as we heard it from Mark. I think we heard it on this show as well. It's Huddersfield it seems like nobody's really buying when they saw from Chelsea this weekend. I'm going to see chill. See just because of the Igwe insane. You know, munches United ever Evan pretty much tone to go that isn't gonna last whatever they're going to have to fish adversity eventually jailed. She may have faced the invested thirty that they're going to. Yes, I'm not huge final Saudis. You've been doing off the field. But I think on the field still look quality. And the thing saying Egwa will just be the edge that keeps them Jesse. A month. Jesse? I think the moment I would say munches the United. I any made changes again, we can merits you're sorry. And and lo and behold, it was it was a half possession where he made the changes. Don't buy it. Yeah. It was a good performance and five goals off the buck of a Hamrin bowl month. But it was the worst team in the Premier League by million miles on the home. So I'm going mind United. I'm sure this debate will continue some of it. Sure. To continue over on extra time. We take your questions make sure to get him in use hashtag extra time and then over on the website. Yes. F c. Busy schedule coming up for Barcelona. Some classic goes on there as well. No, they'll face drama, jitney semi-finals of the COPA. Del Rey may have to do some of that without the Messi. He miss trained today. Injured aside over the weekend against Valencia. Here's a major doubt for the first leg of the semi-final against Real Madrid. Some good news for Marcelino's money. Valid did trained today though. He's sick. He's missed the last four matches for Barcelona. Let's check in on the league table Barcelona's lead six over Atletico Madrid Madrid lost for the first time in the lead since September this past weekend. Bet one nil it's coincidence. But out of. Oh, Moda made his debut. Fred let you go in the heat in that match Madrid dropped off three points and missed a big opportunity to close the gap the top table over Barcelona. This all leads us to add let go Madrid, and you Ventas first leg of this chimpanzee grounded sixteen down February twentieth and really got to focus on the UN to side of things. Both Gillian Nucci are a doubt at least for the first leg of this sixteen days until starts but event is out of the Cup. Sure. They're nine points clear in the league. But imagine they go out and all this money on Cristiano Renaldo and at the end of the day. There's only one trophy to show for it. Yeah. Did feel like launch us last chance saloon intending crescendo now for you to live the Champions League trophy yet is injuries to aging back three or back full. However, you want to shape it up that may cost him yet. I also think the team like I'd let to Madrid who. We're happy to sit back and defend until the chances when they come as probably the last team that a team like you vent just wanted to meet this stage of of the competition. But I think given the injuries you have to be worked feel the same up -solutely v saying can say this because of the problems defensively, and to be honest, analogy, a BI best regon is a partnership that we can against Pomme. I'm surely horrendous then float to do this. Is this finished three three which is all that was back and forth. Wasn't Palmer the field four or five times. And every time they did they lose his we're going to school. This is a huge problem. No question. I mean, that's the thing. This is not the event of old shipping goals at the moment. If Benicio Collini I'm not fit to play then the pendulum swings Tacoma dread. If Murata doesn't stop 'cause I don't get the Murata thing. Anyway. I don't want to about it. But he's been playing so poorly in I don't think just by by moving to Madrid. All of a sudden, it's going to go away in the space of you know, fear four weeks so that would indicate that little bit. But I don't think you will. It's not just funds the Madrid engineers, processed the let's remember let's go to Champions League finals with Fernando Torres as well. Of you ever. Miss an episode of the show make sure to check it out over ESPN dot com, or I tunes where you get your podcast. All right here. The results from the weekend in the fantasy primarily Craig man. Just bashing in on Dan Stevie with a big win over Lexus. Some high point totals here. Hey, maybe Stevie and shack both in the two hundred the production team really giving the business tutti so called expert there. Good who the good Mark Donald say we. Yeah. On the table was better weeks. Yes, tables, not great wrath has. Does he not have Email or what's? Access Stevie nicks who is seeing all of his hard work rewarded. Top three spot, actually. Yeah. Tied for second fail to prepare prepare to fill Simon. You'll get the rewards. Okay. Yeah. Here's a look at. Tomorrow's papers. Lots of angst when it comes to. Following right about Liverpool Stevie you feel like they've let it slip as less headline. Just guessed. Well, the definitely that advantage slip. The last three games. No question. Hollis Lulu one at home. They were very fortunate. He gets points, and then draws homey Alaska, and then this one at west, Tom, very ostrich. Indeed. But still ahead the title Rhys. It could have been worse for Liverpool. I think you gotta give pedigree some credit du remedy funded. Well, Greg final thoughts. Price last. Walk in light them book. What left to fight for yet between me. Limit the time. We've got for Craig Steve Chaka. Thanks watching. We'll see next time. Welcome into extra-time everybody on this. That isn't an extreme get outta here. So we're gonna run weekly Martin. I'm already great. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it. Nick wants Craig on everybody. To use the two most important people. But we just go to go. If you go can we go? He now you now you. Let let's let's make sure he's late. I okay. Nick wants to notice anybody. Enjoy the Super Bowl yesterday. I know you did right up salute. Did you were you one of these people that thought it was boring? No, not at all. No. We'll something to be said you said you said it was the Josie. I'm the funds Monte yet. In a hurry. I'm going to economic. You think you eagling somewhere? No the plane just took off without me. It's a breakdown the whole Super Bowl. Let me go. All right. Let me go. Pull this you. 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Caught Offside: the good, the bad, the Jose

Caught Offside

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Caught Offside: the good, the bad, the Jose

"Caught offside with Edward Finch. Jj Davani offside on the upper west side Manhattan. Andrew Bundling J. J. Eight Vani. What's up little crusty this morning? A few drinks last night at an Irish traditional music session which yeah yeah just feeling a bit. EPA crusty and then. I stayed up to watch. Afc and the Philadelphia Union. Thank God that you did the hammer of four and again. We're only a couple of weeks into the season but that game like we might be at the end of the year and say that we didn't see a game much more fun than that one thou was tremendous on on I think we have seen our goal of the year already from that game. It's just just Wackadoo it was that's a drop What time did that occur? Eastern time like I was sitting downstairs. The game was going on. It was after midnight Especially also because there were eight minutes of first-half stoppage-time with the number of injuries that the union incurred But so it's probably about twelve fifteen twelve around there and I just kept thinking like okay. I. I don't know how much longer I can last but things kept happening in this game. That just like it wouldn't let you go to bed and we're talking about the AFC Philadelphia Union game on F s one last night And then like after this happened the free kick for Philadelphia When the game was tied to to or no this this made it was one one. This made it to one in the second half. This was the moment we said. Okay well that's it. I'm in now for the for the remainder. Looks like he's shot. He's Centreback Jacob. Blessedness is GonNa Jay Bilas this a Norwegian. It set her back. Has Juice produced a moment? That is going to go around the world. Oh my goodness at one of the favorite things about that free kick for me is his feet being off the ground so when he hits the ball he's he's off the he's practically he he launches himself into. It is what he does on it. It takes this the AFC keeper can see it all the way and is yet powerless. It takes a little bend little deviation at the end but it's travelling so fast I mean he's never get into it. The you mentioned the the feet off the ground thing. There's one clip in particular that I think of. I know it's happened many times but I think it was Roberto. Carlos has that famous one. Yes that like when you look at the angle from behind. It looks like he's like defied mathematics was July. June one thousand nine hundred seventy Confederations Cup. Latour Noi- oh which was a tournaments to lead into France. Ninety eight like a test run and like the Confederations Cup and thinking of right. The that's not what it was called but I'm saying like that's what it came right. Maybe I don't know I guess that's yeah you're probably right actually because that they just decided hey. This is a good idea right right. Yeah that goal that he scored. I think of that but the game. Last night was unbelievable. Three three was the final the union. I guess it'll be kind of a conflicting three three because you go to L. AFC and you think okay we get out of there with a point We'll take it any way we can get it but to lose the lead Three separate times and two of those times to have lost it seemingly within seconds There was there's at least a little bit of frustration. I think associated with something like that that you like that. Just can't be the moment where you shut down offensively but it's also L. AFC kind of exerting just how great they are They may not you know. You may not think that coming out of a three three at home to. La of presumably should be winning if they're a great team but it's just this idea of like okay. We need to go now. So let's go and get a goal like it feels like they can do that. Yes Andrea Blake under. A high ball is still one of the more terrifying feats in a things to see in. Mls despite the fact a lot of saves he is not good with the cross. Well playoffs last season. He wasn't then he had a weird night last night because it's the same token they also they lose that game if not for him. Yeah right at the end. What grits if YEP so a weird game for him but sometimes this league like that's one of those games where I'll just say like if you're you're someone who loves soccer but refuses to watch. Mls for whatever reason I would I would point two games like that and say you know you're missing awesome stuff like I'm not saying the defending is always great. Goalkeeping you're right. There's things that happened but we've we're seeing right now in the premier league. There's things that happened with goalkeeping and defending WADA. Magical segue into the Manchester Derby. So here's the deal We kind of have it laid out this week. the good and the bad The first half of the show. We're going to focus on the good because I feel like there's more good to talk about. We want start with that because we're a positive show. We'd like to harp on positively key people happy especially on a Monday when so many things are happening in this world that have people's minds all wrapped up and it's time for us to bring some fun. Let's bring some funny fring the funny bring the Yuck. Yuck so we've got. I pointed out five different clubs or teams. I put in the category of good coming off this weekend. The first one being Manchester United This I know they beat city earlier. But you know circumstances being what they are right now at this stage of the season United kind of knowing what their target is get to top four or five might even do it based on Manchester. City's champions of eligibility moving forward but this was a huge. This was a huge win for them. It might be the biggest win that Seoul. Shire has had since he's arrived at this club. Yeah and it finds them in a moment where I think people expect him to be manager at the start of next season whereas that was uncertain before Christmas I think that's important by the way what you just said there. Yeah like He. He's in a way not to be overly dramatic. He's kind of come back from the dead in the in the minds of ninety percent of I'd say fans and journalists like this guy had no business having this job and was a dead man walking And I think you're right now. They're still may be disagreement as to whether or not that's a good thing for Manchester United but like results are what they are and you know some of these signings that Manchester United have had are starting to look like they're productive signing more than productive signings. That's that's only short. I think the missing link. When we talk about protracted transfer saga as we think of Manchester United Right now but for once the long saga get Bruna. Fernandez was worth it. He is playing the passes linking the play necessary for the forwards that we've always kind of thought were good but not producing like the Marchese. This world he's capable of doing that now and I still think they're short and other positions. I'm sure saltaire knows that Port that is a massive thing. They were defensively solid yesterday. I'm when they got the ball. The big thing was they could link the play off to get off. The field like city still dominated possession. But it didn't really matter because united that a cutting edge it's city I off cycle. That was ruled out Was One really good city move that they put together but generally city seemed blunt they Miss Kevin. Debrecen elected was no tomorrow and united had that X. Factor and Bruno Fernandes look at how prescient the ball was over the top from our CIO. Marciano sees a Guero and Ligon on that side runs between them and okay. Edison should save at bought. How good is that pass? A good is that quick free-kick from Bruna Fernandez. I've actually think he's been more influential than other games. He's played so far but he was still very good yesterday and he changes this united team. They are dangerous with him. They have a plan when he plays again. They do need to figure some things out but with manage MC Tommy Servant as the base yesterday. The back four was solid. There was no space for for Manchester City to play in between the lines in advanced areas and Bruna. Fernandez was the x factor. He let's be honest. It should have been tune if Daniel James will get his head up. I was GONNA say about him. He's an interesting one just because like you talk about the cutting edge that Manchester United had like maybe in the final third. He struggles but he's dangerous in in in the counterattack. How many times do we see him down? The right side just like reeking havoc one move that he made on Otamendi in the box. Otamendi just goes for it and Dang Jane's goes right around him and takes the shot. That's the one where you're saying. He should have played it back. Across the Middle Right Bruna Fernandez he says on Edison stands up and pushes it over. The Bar was freaking in second half and sold shares for straight down the side and I think that was the one but like he's he's he's tailed off significantly from what his start was. But you still see he so young player and in Games like yesterday. I'm watching that thinking that like. He's incredibly dangerous in open-field situations but I wanNA talk about Brunner Fernandez for one. Second more because You are right and everything you're saying and I saw this from Phil McNulty At the BBC he said since making his primarily debut in the goalless draw at home to wolves on February First Fernandez has been involved in more goals in the competition than any other player with two goals and three assists That is what we call making an instant impact. Yeah and it also leads me to wonder something. We're talking about soldier and him coming back from the dead. Jj what were we talking about on this podcast? I think it was roughly a month ago. angry Manchester United Supporters Stormed Edwards House and within storm at. They a attacked it. It was a rocket attack. It was They attacked his house. They attacked his house with What was IT Fireworks Yeah Now look that was also put down by some people on the Internet as actually a false flag attack that it wasn't really happening and that it was paid for by national newspaper serious. That was the rumor. It wasn't a whole conspiracy theories say. Is this a time for you to like recite the news in your Alex Jones voice again while the military industrial complex which has been held up by the mainstream media and liberals But what I was GONNA say about Edward was that I do wonder things will change. They'll change again. People will hate him again but I do wonder if we're in a moment right now where we can say Like some of the hate like are do people need to think about. This is this is just. What is this? This is just what we do. I guess we're everything so reactive. Now but yes. But that's what I'm saying to the people who have who have hated on him for a while. Now I got this one right Eddie. Well but it's not just this one that's the thing is like Okay Bruno Fernandez. I know it's very early. And maybe we're being reactive on that one but like Wanda Sokha is legit. He's going to be a great player. I think we're already seeing a guy who is looking like the one of the next grateful maximumness league in nine when there's there's no shortage of them he's like He. I know him sterling. Had One chance late in the second half in the in the box. I don't think Wamba soccer was even near. That was wouldn't really be on him but for the most part. One soccer was amazing against Raheem Sterling yesterday. And I think now assigning that initially people thought was maybe a failure. I think Fred now. Looks like legitimately good Manchester United Player? There's like there's there's no weak link with him out on the field and I know that's a low bar but like I I'm underselling at Fred's been good for Manchester United. We're starting to see now. Look not every signing that you make is going to hit and I wonder if we got into this phase because Manchester United had a couple of really high profile signings. That didn't hit in de Maria in Ponca moves like that. You know because those fell flat. I feel like cast an even brighter Sanchez. Okay that went to cast a really bright light but like if you look at the three we just talked about with one BASSAC Fernandez and Fred If you want to throw in there I know there's weeks is not great but like I do think Harry Maguire considering it's a position that united needed. Yes they overspent for him but I still think he's a young player. He was really good yesterday. Like I think when it's all said and done when the script is written on him and his time at United I think that will go down as a signing two. I'm just saying like I think that you talk about people being too reactive. I think that there was a little bit of maybe being too reactive in the negative way when talking about some of the recent signings for this club and I know united fans who hate his guts are gonNA unload on my on. My mentions and probably send me a laundry list of other ones. That were not right now but like recent track record. If you WANNA get mad at him about the manager will like. We're starting to say that the tune on that is starting to change too. I think with the with the young players that have come in Bruno. Fernandes is a recent signing. And you know a good run of form where they seem to know what they're doing as a team you can say that this is positive they. They're probably short another culprit players Boss the sounds and the vibe from the club is much better. There's no question but I just you want to see it stretched out and I keep saying this. I think united are headed in the right direction. But I think ultimately the guy who starts it all off probably won't be there at the end and social. I think this is an evolution on there at the start of it. We we We don't know yet. I'm Jim donate without Marcus. Radford who's arguably play right okay. Yeah definitely I think. They're in a good space. Yeah I suppose the problem is that we are reactive short termism but right now. If you're united fan of course you should enjoy it. Of course you should hope that things are going to be better but you know. Are we just saying that? In six seven weeks the old problems have gone away director of football. I mean they've only just got in a real proper Integrated Analytics Department into the club. You know it's it's a long term overhaul and We might only be at the start of it but days like yesterday. That's what keep the fans come back and give them hope sir. I double over Manchester City since Alex was there. The Oh nine ten season which will what you say. Wow but dot coincides with the the heaviest spending of the of the CF g Kind of a project. Descending ten ten seasons I know but what's been good since since for United's are Alex left here not a ton although this was a good week like we're talking about this game right now but we're stretch where they've just progressed convincingly in the Europa League Advance the quarterfinals of the FA Cup. And then like we just said they Now kind of staring down top four And they just pulled off a double against their Their crosstown rivals think pep would say their recent actions have been good. The actions of late have been extant for united. Let's move to another club Chelsea this was a good weekend for them just because they were so badly in need of of one of these not just a win but a truly convincing win that I can stabilize that situation a little bit. And now depending Leicester City play this afternoon depending on what happens there. I mean Chelsea are now kind of breathing down Leicester's neck for third And then on top of that. The Youth Movement Continues Billy Gilmour. Eighteen years old comes in makes his debut by most accounts. People thought he was excellent in this game by the way I was second game where he was excellent continuing on from the FA Cup game against Liverpool. Where HE I mean. Is it too strong to say around the show from the center of the pack? Probably not not according to Roy Keane. Did you hear what he had set? No I didn't Roy Keane said Sky I thought he was world class. I sat down with the volume off which was an interesting insight. He doesn't have the commentary on when he watches the Games. He was having a cup of tea chocolate biscuit and he got out of his seat watching Gilmore's touches and his contributions. That's that's that's unbelievable. Praise from a man doesn't give praise to modern footballers to say that he looks world-class. Don't you think I was Kinda thinking about this? With Billy Gilmour I know you know not like three guys does a team make. But don't you feel like we're kind of on the verge of like Scotland? Being good again I had the same thought between him. Fraser. Ninety Robertson MC. Tom and they're starting to put together enough players there where I feel like what. I'm not saying that they need to be a great team. But sort of like what's happened with Wales in the last few years right like. Why couldn't that happen with Scott? Steve Clark's got. I mean. Dare I say Golden Generation. Yeah so he's got a better set of players that Scotland has had for a very long time. Yeah and you've got some guys you can throw in there like snodgrass who are good players. Yeah you know what it takes International Football Andrew. Things are happening there. Things are stirring in the highland back to Chelsea though four nil over Everton Yeah just like guys who to me? It felt like needed this performance like Pedro playing as well as he did willion. Who had kind of been in and out of the lineup playing as well as he did? Alicia now coming in and scoring a goal to put this one away just like their season has just been. It's been so up and down that it's it's kind of been a little bit hard to know necessarily. But it's been insulated. Vampire Has been insulated by two factors first of all the expectations. Lord because the transfer ban I had to work with the kids that he had which was kind of a blessing in disguise. We did say at the outset. That would help him and mitigate against any criticism and also the fact that The other teams that should be in the hunt have been tripping over themselves. That's which is part of it. Yeah which is kept Chelsea a good good place I had a look at it and I thought what do Chelsea need And they certainly lot of Work Andrew Danita goalkeeper. They probably need to fullbacks central forward now. Now here's the danger that when Chelsea go down that road they'll go back to being the default settings of the old data center forward. Why just because you don't? You're not a believer yet in in the youth that they have tammy Abraham Abraham a route eight hover Abraham No. I don't think that's a long term solution for Chelsea I taught in Good attacking player but not an outeniqua scorer. I wouldn't think The keeper he's back in he had a good game. He only saves fifty percent of his shots. You know he's he's got a bad ratio. He's out of time. Maybe gets better. He's young may okay center box. I'm not sure bows on the fullbacks on some of the white hairs like we're we're gonNA. We can expect William and Pedro probably to move on in the summer that Pulitzer comes in back from injury dots grit. But you know they're going to need a little bit of depth. How much are you going to give in? Terms of time for Gilmore at this age as well so there's question marks over Chelsea. The real work begins next season this if they qualify for Champions League and the transfer ban is lifted then they will become once again a a huge destination. I gotTA BELIEVE I. I don't know if Abramovich is conducting himself exactly the same way as it used to. But they're still GONNA be a club that's willing to spend. The big was the big picture for me. Is that again probably like united? There's lots of reasons for positively and But yeah it it's it's kind of. I mean I was on the London is blue podcast and I did say that. I felt they'd finished third now. Maybe they won't finish startled finished fourth but that's a good season Will at will bleeds blue on twitter. He sent me a tweet yesterday. about Chelsea said. I believe it was a gunman who said earlier in the year. This isn't your father's Chelsea. It isn't even your older brothers. Chelsea truth any links to that a graphic on sky sport. I have the graphic here from sky. thirty percent. Jj of the teams minutes played. The season have come from players. Who are under twenty one hundred twenty one at the start of the year? Compare that with last just last year for Chelsea when only one percent of minutes came from players under the age of twenty one like this is this is just in the span of a few months from last year to this year. This is so far off the grid of what Chelsea do. It's been jarring to see it's also you know you gotta ask questions about their policy. In general. The last few years like this farm system where players went away and for no one loans players like Chelsea should. They shouldn't have been allowed really. See all this talent. Oh yeah no I mean look. They're refusal to give young players. A chance has cost them in a major way me look solid debris WanNa Lukaku like there. Were really good players. Who went through there? That just never really had the chance to thrive and like look how it's cost them later on And I I do think. Chelsea fans the way they'll get behind Gilmore on those young players you can really forge a bond on a connection. Oh yeah homegrown. Players are always going to be the most beloved players. It's just the way that it is and Chelsea can with this manager in this fashion. It's amazing illegal activities. In terms of youth players has brought about a youth movement Chelsea is not not the most modern football thing you can think of right now. It's very Meta but it will give them an identity that they a recent identity rather because they do have a history It'll give them. A recent identity are apart current identity that recently they haven't had Let's see continuing another London Club arsenal. Jj We have not spoken positively about this club in a really long time and people think we just don't like them in. It's been a really long time and I think it's at least for today. I think we we have to lift our our ban on speaking kindly about Arsenal This team is not lost in the league. Since the calendar changed over to two thousand and twenty yes so I guess the question is whether or not this is charted up to one of the more extreme examples of new manager bounce or if this is actually something real personally in my opinion. There's something reloaded I Ha- actually. I'll tell you Olympia Casse Game. Which was just horrifying and really something that they would have loved to have stayed in much much longer. I thought we were going to be. Pas are a right to their elimination from Euro. No but I'm supposed to be the one that feels this way about them. Not You outside of that. I've I've only watched pieces of them from what I've seen the pressing the urgency there was always being This idea that there's an arsenal way to play. And certainly I think that that that was largely installed by some finger but that seems to have have come back with a better element of workers under Miguel Arteta. So that's what I see with. My eyes went to watch games but I went to our SPLC. Who talked about the weekend? An answers your question. He said about the West Ham game. It was a day in which the result was far. Better than the performance Amana vast. What makes this much different from? When we were winning games under eye. Emory bemoaning the underlying performances. It's a fair question for me. There are a couple of things first at the context. Emory was a cool. Chew at pre-seasons budgets players brought in that he wanted and time to work with them are Ted in his first. Job Is picking up the pieces of a mess. Another manager left behind haven't taken over at the most difficult time of the season. The other is the attitude of the results. Big teams find a way. I can't fully span how much I liked that. But he is reinforcing a message to the players on the fines that says even though we are nowhere where we want to be right now. This is still the arsenal for me. It's a mark contrast the things. Emory would see do which demonstrated a kind of inferiority complex. He never fully understood the concept of Arsenal as a big club. Quite how? I'm not sure but it was evident in his approach. We talked about this team. I mean our tattoo seems brought back a spring in the step. Despite the results have been opened down they haven't been are sorry performances of being batter but they've drawn games. Yeah that's they should've worn And by the way even this one for We don't think much of West Ham fake of how close this was to being a nil. Nil draw and I would say not to make this of our conversation but this was a moment where Var good like. It would have been a shame if this ended nil. Nil you out of nowhere saying how to West Ham mess up that to be wounded when I on the Spurs Fan. All right like when. I'm watching Arsenal. Whoever they're playing against is the team that I rooting for in this case even even West Ham a team that I also have no time for So like to V. Ones like that. If you watch the game we don't even need to specify what we're talking about. It was botched so poorly That you just like you. You can't help but think well this is why they are with what they are like moments like that. It's just like that would be like if you've got a DVD of the West Ham season you know during the main menu. There's like a clip playing in the background. It should just be that clint like that. That would sum up all your back going behind the attacking players to back to the opposition. And then those two players screaming at each other over the miscommunication. It's just but you know like some guys brought back into the fold like where was measured ozone at the start of the season and I'm not saying he's great now but like sets up the goal what he does seem to be working harder. He's comments seemed to be like he's enjoying this manager in a way he never did with. Emery yeah I mean. The whole situation under emory was botched. Emory was coming out saying They've told me this is what sorry. No this is what we are doing in regards to also as if there was something from upstairs telling him that you know we're not going to play them the next thing he reverses course on that they. They did not know what they were doing. And that seems to be gone might be question again. Going forward longer term. What is ownership view of this club? Now what do ownership wants to do with this team so I would even hone in deeper on that Obama Yang has been great for them last year. And again this year If they don't qualify for. Champions League play next season can they? Will they keep him? I mean I don't even know if that's an ownership question. He may demand at this point to go elsewhere Which it would devastate them. Yeah I mean look. There's there's clearly more town there besides him like. I think Kaya Sokha has really looked like a fun player. Right a WHO's GONNA keep getting better This team has improved. It feels whether it's coincidence or not since the BIOS came back into the lineup You know I don't know that like they were. They just weren't playing this well before I don't know if it's because a him or not but like it's important his return to the team To me it's still going to be a question of defending You know they can hide it in ways you know by trying to control more of the ball But ultimately they're going to have moments where opened up in the back and I still don't think that anybody trusts what's back there so like when you talk about ownership and decision making moving forward. It's still going to revolve around what they do at center and they may have to spend big onto centrebacks. Yeah they probably will All right a couple non. Epl ONES JJ gotta give props to the US. Women's national team to wins in two matches in the The she believes cup. A draw this Wednesday against Japan would be enough for the US to get the win in this four-team tournament with England and Spain. Of course being the other to the to the US have just beaten Any takeaways from what you've seen so far. Yeah just on the span game yesterday props span who I thought were excellent and have even developed from the World Cup in the summer in a short space of months Martha Cardona could have had two goals prior to the winner by Juliet's Set pieces again. What a great delivery by Kristen press an arts is like I mean. I know people don't like when we do this. But I'M GONNA compare to male player Virgil Van Dyke in terms of attacking balls in the box. Like dot is a huge weapon. When you need it you can win a free kick. Get good delivery in there. She's winning most of of Of those crosses I was fawning over the brilliance of Chris impresses goal against England which so casual I watched the Gif of which slowed it down a little bit. It's super casual. The for her from her. I touched the shot. Seems like one move on. She just strikes it so cleanly. Bryn ankle and that kind of You know distracted me for a little bit an I read Kim MacAulay on SP Nation. And she made an interesting point about an issue that I think Underneath ski is going to have to deal with Carrie Lloyd centre-forwards legend icon so many different ways to finish classy finisher bought. Kim made the point that Lynn Williams who pay played on the right yesterday should play in that center for position. I'm like okay right. She's a goal score but she said she stops the opposition. Plano from the back. Her press is so good that she can actually win the ball and create chances right there like almost in a Liverpool style your turnover as your number ten. I mean if that's something that he does first of all he has to manage that situation. He's moving a veteran out of the picture. Let's be honest. The older players one of the challenges for the new managers to move them on And I think Lloyd isn't as dynamic and so it was just interesting to to see someone someone give a solution to that while while we're without Alex Morgan who is the number one stabbed her in that position. So that kind of struck me a little bit Did score against England. Ah Against Spain. Though Lynn Williams actually played in a great ball tour. I think it was actually wasn't ruled. Offside chest control it over. Got Away from. It almost looked like it caused a awful collision I can. I almost hit really. I almost hate talking in those terms but like when someone puts an argument towards you in front of you for why you know. She's not going to do the running. She's not going to be as dynamic as someone like Williams. Maybe that is an option. He looked really think one of the one of the hardest things that a coach can do in. All of sports is manage the end of the career of a legend. Like when when carry. Lloyd looked at this summer unthought about our position in this team for the Olympics. Did she not think that well? I'll be starting considering Alex Morgan considering I do not. Oh No you think in her mind. I'm sure she probably believe on Baccini. Starting even when outs Morgan is there. I think that's kind of like early. Lloyd's mentality right. And I just think that maybe there's another way. Maybe I'm going to just blame Kim for this putting this seditious thought in my mind. I'm a couple of other things. I wanted to mention You mentioned Kristen. Press who I wanted to give a shoutout to because for someone who like seemingly has it speaks to the quality of the team but for someone who seemingly has a difficult time locking down a first team place. I don't know she's one of those players that she's magnetic to me whenever she's playing. It's hard you can't take your eyes off of her. She's she's dangerous every single time. She's on the ball The ball that she played into Earth's for the winter the goal that like you said that she scored against England. She's she's fantastic Also I WANNA give some credit to a listener who stepped in back to back clean sheets for the US So good for her and also to just like the general seen specifically at Red Bull Arena For yesterday's game against Spain sold out crowd In a place that we're told all the time when the rebels can't get sellouts. There's always a reason for because the rebels are always. They're always good so we're told that it has to be other reasons. It has to be. It's difficult to get to the path. Train doesn't run frequently enough. Parking is limited by the way all of these things are true I'm not comparing one exactly to the other. The rebels play a lot of games. They're the US it's a special occasion but it just Kinda goes to show on like on a march date that when people bought tickets they didn't necessarily know what was going to be beautiful out. These T. these girls are rockstars right now in the soccer world in this country and like where they go fans will follow and they are fun to watch. It's a great atmosphere around this team. The place was electric when scored that goal great seen So it's just continue to be fun. And it's great to see that whatever momentum they built from the World Cup and from a new following of fans that latched on it feels like people are are sticking with them. Now you hope that this continues when the domestically kicks up again And and the following continues through there because one thing I don't WanNa see is The NWF starting to lose players potentially to Europe. We've already seen SAM. Kerr go from Chicago over to play in England You know you wanNA keep the best players playing in this country and so good to see the fans like continuing to really support them in in full voice. Yeah you're right about the league. The League needs to have a big season. Yeah Last but not least one more. Jj Juventus strange atmosphere obviously playing an empty stadium which I do think is something kind of like generally speaking. We gotta talk a little more about. We'll do that and what to watch for but A huge win for them to nil over Inter Milan on Sunday. They go back top of the table just a point above lots of inter. Milan any hopes that they would have had of getting themselves. Back into this tunnel. Race Modest seemed far fetched before now. It's virtually impossible so now I think people are eager for change. This isn't anything against you ventas but people want somebody else to win this. So now we're all in on Lattanzio is it. We're in behind Simone Inzaghi. I mean they've got some nice players that we can get behind if we may not jive with their some of their fingers. Then that you just did really yeah the their Ultras Breaking Upright Dad. Well the ultra the irretrievably as a as a organized crime gang Are are kind of standing down on the CURVA. Nord will still have ultras. I believe but it. They won't be of that. They won't be as extreme. I'm not sure Boss Lucas Labor. The center of the Park Korea Upfront. I like Jiro. Chiro immobilize Nice Guy. Seems like Nice? Guy. I'm trying. I really want someone else to win. Syria and I'm not sure it stays guys all right if we do have their scarf. Honor on our wall do we. Yeah we do right above my head about that One weird thing about this game for events in the winning in a winning effort it was actually the first Syria game since November. Tenth for you that did not feature a goal from Cristiano Renaldo. He broke his string of scoring But they did get a goal from Aaron Ramsey. He scored the first and then he set up the second for Bala Boy like another one of these. We were talking about arsenal before. Like I thought we were GONNA try to be positive about arsenal battling possible. Like I don't know you see him kind of thriving at Uva and you think that's a weird one for arsenal to have let get away while there was injuries throughout his time at our snow and there were patches of of good form but it was it was hired from to stay fit and you know not to go back to the leg break but I mean was he ever really one hundred percent for after that there was always the Nikki. Injuries remember. He started the season was four or five seasons ago. And he's like seven or eight goals in a role he had this amazing start and we were like who is this man reborn this son of Wales but yeah. Let's just be positive. Let's just talk about you and not arsenal. Yeah so survey. Top of the table in Syria Like I said that Empty Stadium Vibe is just I mean I know. This wasn't this isn't new. This is the thing that happens. One of the biggest games of the calendar should have fans. Therefore I mean Italy's in a quarter of Italy is in this lockdown locked down more northern Italy essentially. I think they said a quarter of the country's population. I mean they have to do these things. I it spiraled on November. I read a tweet that on February twentieth they had like nineteen cases. Now the thousand like it's just it's under control yeah I'll tell you what let's take a We're GONNA take a quick break. That was the good when we come back. There's the bad don't have very much but there are two clubs in particular you may notice. We haven't spoken yet about Josie Marino. There's a lot of shame and humiliation in this next part. I it's a it's a theme throughout all right. I'm curious I'm curious where you're GONNA go without spun. Let's see before we get to that. Jj Do you want to tell you something Want to tell you about this when it comes to scoring. Great Hires for Your Business. 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That's what macgyver did an at the end of the mcgyver theme that's what he does. He gets up. He's just done something amazing and he blows out his cheeks. Duty due on James Milner reminded me of macgyver at the weekend. He was the hero. And macgyver is probably one of my favorite American heroes. Really when I was a kid that thing furious for the rest of that list. That theme soon Just got me so pumped it was it was my favorite TV. Show as a lad. And I used to bounce on the bed and I used to pretend I was macgyver And I used to blow up my cheeks. I used to sing the home. The theme June right to the end is a great theme song and then blow my cheeks. Likable to save the world gain. You talk about James. Milner reminds me of a twitter interaction that I saw over the weekend and it led to. I think quite possible. My favorite tweet that I've ever read since we've started this podcast. You posted a picture of milliner making that play which was great really an honestly a great play given how close the game was you said what a pro. He's been big moment in this morning's game and then at Bob Doug and seven said boringly effective. Not that there's anything wrong with that when you responded with. There's nothing wrong with it except I don't think that's true at which point at Josh Mill More China. He said in response to your tweet. He said you unnecessarily disagree with a lot of things to be fair but through the Web. I high five tim I mean it was so funny I mean I can't I thought about it. Unlike the apart from the twitter on his you know the boring James Milner twitter which was funny and the assumption that this guy was boring and maybe his boring off the field. Nothing he does on the field is boring. Well that's the thing though is like right moments like that. There's nothing boring about stuff like that but you know I get what? He's what the Guy Bob Doug and what he's saying in that like James Milner he's just not one of those guys whose name POPs off of a team sheet. You know not. There's some player like sterling. They're just some guys that like bang those names they light up and like he's just not one of them but you look at the things he does. He's effective. He's always effect. You know what I thought as well. I kind of just like old faithful. You know. It's like that's not necessarily the most exciting thing. Ever Niagara Falls is exciting. Faithful exciting out and goes off every hour. Do you not think James Milner this exemplification of a certain type of heroic Englishness that we think of in like nineteen seventeen the film. I could cast him in that. I could see him in that to me. That was always Scott Parker yet. But I see what you're saying. Captain Scott Parker of the Airborne Division. Yeah but like seeing that tweet that somebody said to be fair you will. You necessarily disagree with a lot of things I mean you and I. We just had an interaction Having to do with this. Oh your last week where you got. I got really. I know you can't read. We wouldn't know because you can't read that I'm living here. You may not read that. No the reason that doesn't work was because we were laboring under a false. I know I know. Just just we'll get to that I know well we're talking about now a real quick. I'll just say that Well we can even go into it Because we're going to talk now about the two teams this week. That had bad weekends and one of them being taught him So we'll talk about them now but it's just funny So after the FA Cup match last weekend or last week Tottenham lose the game on penalties. It's a devastating loss onto on. Its own like within. Its own right because this league. The League season is going spiring control. They're losing in the Champions League right now. I forget the last year where Tottenham haven't reached the quarter-finals any cup competition but it's something like Oh two oh three yet which is like yeah like credit how they don't win them but they at least like give you also hear a longer period of time. It looks like we could be headed to a year where that doesn't happen We'll see what happens with Leipzig. So like all of that is kind of sifting. Through the minds of Tottenham fans after they've just lost to Norwich on penalties and then Eric dire goes running into the stands to fight a fan and it's just like as a spurs fan. Your mind is just. You're watching all of these. Things occur around you end just like where has my club gone and so I texted you. Something to the effect of This is stoning Champions League finalists and may think of where we basis for that tax was that we thought Someone had made a racist comment towards gets Gets THEM FERNANDEZ? And that Dyer was going to up to confront the person. So I'm so my response was like yeah. I understand how to here. I don't see how the two things you wrote back to me. I said these things are just so sad to me to think. This club was in a championship. Final less than a year ago. It's just sad and then you said lots of teams go through bad patches. It doesn't end with players chasing down supporters because we're racist comment being thrown back. I said I love when you question me after a totally innocuous comment that really anyone would be what I wasn't. It wasn't so much question in you. I was more questioning the situation. If you know what I mean but even if that was the situation though like to think of going from the height of every supporter just loving each other and loving this club and now here we are like even if that was the case like a fan being racist to a player and that player showing points like what has happened in the last eight months this is. This is not the club that I recognized from just like less than a year ago. Right I was a little bit Has Wyckoff help yourself? Argumentative all right. I'm a saint one day when I'm going to die on straight to heaven for what I've done here on this podcast with both that. You won't let me baptize you. That's going to be half the problem. But let's let's talk about. The dire. Went into the stands was to confront a fan. Who'd been abusing his brother. It had it had nothing to do with racism right. That was what circulated on twitter for about an hour. Eric's younger brother happened to be near a fan. Who for some reason was berating dyer who I didn't think had a particularly bad game and actually converted his penalty But for whatever reason A Fan made dire his target and dyers brother took took umbrage with it. And next thing you know dyers in the stands trying to fight a guy with his full kate on his studs clambering over the seats Dotson injury weight and top. Now the whole scene is just like are you? Are you kidding me right now and it was just. It's kind of like I talked before. About what the West Ham DVD MENU? It looked like that might be. Tottenham's DVD menu. Eric dire climbing into stance to fight a supporter of his club. Season Review. It's just like this is i. Don't know how it spiraled so quickly. What pardon me does I mean. Let's talk about Joe's Marino a little bit here On the weekend and the weekend where Tottenham get a one one draw with Burnley at Burnley that on its own is not horrifying. They lost their under PACI. No last season Here's what's happening though. So one of the things with Marina. That is almost hard to gauge. For when he comes to your club that I'm now learning is that whether it's fair or not He brings with him as we're finding out almost toxicity that it's not always him. That creates it now. This week it was but he's so polarizing that I feel like it. Just everyone around the club just feels like they're on edge and while you hear these stories that from within the club He's actually become a very well. Liked guy that people find him funny that he's like people enjoy being around him this stuff. I was reading over the weekend about him But around the club among the fans among the media he the polarization is so intense. That I just feel like there's like this this atmosphere of toxicity that surrounds a club when he is there. And if if you're winning it keeps it at bay but when you're not I feel like it's it's bad atmosphere on steroids battle quickly. It goes back to Miguel Delaney's point that he works best in in a process of tension he needs to create tension for something to come about. No He may have genuine. Let's actually get to it. So after the game he singled out Tanqueray in ballet for well. Let's just listen to it. Yeah here's marina on his. He was asked about his halftime changes. He took me and Oliver skippy took both of them off after forty five minutes. Here's marina we saw what you just tell us. Why and what difference it made I sing conversely the quality and the dynamic of Lucas and and low sell so they made the they made a difference. And I don't I won't say but that cannot say We have something in the first off that we didn't hiding second off so the half we we improve the testimony to do more because I cannot do it. Can I go quick tangent? Real quick please Josie Marino in his. Don't ask me to say what I cannot say. And then his preceding. This is only a small clip like his then proceeding to talk about it seemingly for hours afterwards like but no. Please don't ask me to talk about this thing that I am so desperate to talk about. I can only think of one thing when I hear him talk that way. It was from the office after Michael and Jan. I think this is when they went on their vacation together and Michael trying he doesn't want anyone seemingly to ask them about it. I just keep thinking of that scene facially. I did not see her but I did see Jan. They're in our room at night and in the morning. That's all GonNa say sex sex machine. Yeah he he plays this little game where Oh. I can't possibly talk about that. I mean if you ask me I guess I will. And then the second part of it is. He did that on sky by process of an emanation the reporter for sky. Got It down to Tanguay. Bali here's the thing though this is not everyone is treating this like. This is a new nicely. Marino has been talking negatively about for awhile now. He's clearly been commenting on Youtube. Visit videos where his tracking back against wolves was bad. Like I mean this is. This has been in the works. He reached his breaking point with this game. Because the fixture list is crowded and Tottenham Heaven absolutely massive game coming up against Leipzig in the Champions League. And this is the. That's the competition now where I Marino more than any other is determined to really Make some Hay and like get this season people feeling good about what's going on and so I think I think he just wanted to be able to rest. Celso who's been the Tottenham Best Player? Yup and and I guess he was just. He reached his breaking point that in Aa whose clear it's frustrating because he's clearly good We've seen enough of like these brief moments from dominate. Where you can tell? He's a good player but for whatever reason like Marino being frustrated about. This guy isn't what's wrong to me. I'm frustrated about him. I've talked about for weeks on this. Podcast thing like he could be the link that makes this work for them But they're not getting it out of him. Marino's flaw if you wanNA find one and this is just how quickly he's willing to say all this in a public forum He's following the Marino playbook This is like he did this. It united with PA while Qatar Ian You were telling me earlier like with Chelsea you remember this happening with Joe Cole Like this he is. He finds a guy usually a guy who came on big wages on a big money contract who he believes. Okay we're GONNA spend that for you. We need to be getting a representative performance for that money. And when you don't get it this is is what he does Paul Hayward of the Telegraph as good angle on this that? I'm curious to put to you Here he is talking on skies Sunday supplement. He puts these players who are kind of boot. Camp doesn't psychological boot camp. Maybe they're not up to speed in the Premier League Seems to be a big price tag involved as if he is if he If he does the more you cost the more he's going to go after you When I watched the analysis of that game last night I didn't think Dunbar was any worse than the other Tottenham midfielder in that first half so I'm not quite sure why he picked him out. Presumably as cumulative and he feels that he's not contributing enough in general and he's not training well enough or whatever it is but I think to To expose play like that. I don't I don't see that that's likely to help him. And he's an Marino's decided that the way to to get him going is to impress him really sort of humiliating really in front of the cameras. Then how's that possibly going to help the player? I think he's right about that last part. I don't see this ending well so I A young player. Who's not from this country? Who's new to this league And to think that embarrassing him publicly will be what sets him right now if it does then it'll be stroke of genius and we'll tell you something about Donald Character That he could put up with that at such a young age and and learn from it But I feel like more often than not when like. When does this work? That's what that's what I asked myself today so I tried to go. Deep on. Find some scholarly articles about the psychology of Public. Humiliation and candidate provide motivation on a really. I mean it was. It was dense reading. So I'm not going to bore you with stuff but one article I read did sit did talk that the usual response is inertia that it doesn't motivate that it doesn't inspire that causes a spiral of shame. Now unless he believes that this is not a teaching moment for dumbly like maybe he believes okay. This players lost cause so I'm GonNa just use him as a way of sending a message to the rest of the team right so that that would be more defeats. The Mina approach so feature. Manna was a convict. A member of the mob on Sopranos and he tells the story of how when he's stay in prison to send a message to everybody else in the prison that he was the toughest guy and he was going to run run. Run the the the rooster rooster. Whatever you WANNA call it. He goes and beats up for no reason the biggest guy in the prison yard now but did not the big one thing if if Maria was doing this to Kane the light. You've you've picked on young player. Who just got to this club? He's on big wages. He's yeah I don't know how he thinks this is going to play also. It's worth noting though he talked about the lack of control in midfield and taught and being overrun in that horrifying first-half and I'm thinkin put another extra midfielder in their the one you've started in the center of a back three on put freaking Vertongen at as a left wing back. Who was anonymous. Joined the game which is lucky because last time I remember him playing there was for Belgium against Japan and he was toasted out there. Like you can't stay Marino. Got His tactics. Right was is focusing on and Don Dailey in this game a smokescreen for the fact that he screwed it that he got it wrong against Burnley. The Dow was a horrifying first-half Andre and also there's a kind of smugness to him about about the way he talks the thing that we didn't have in the first half the thing that we had in the first half we didn't have in the second half as if the changes he made. Turn the game around well in some ways they did. They tied the game and they were hanging on at the end. They could have won that game As well on on okay boy occasions Lasalle so came on your best game over. And he's because he's their best player by by country right now is without son and Cain. They're he's he's kind of asserted himself. I thought Deli was going to become that in the early days Marino and while he did score got his fiftieth primarily goal on a penalty But Lasalle so is it right now. He's he's he's been so. I just ask you as a sports fan. Do you like this like do you like that. Your manager is talking about a player like this. No 'cause you look at the way. He comforted quite rightly comforted and protected. Eric dire this last week. You did a great job doing that. So this is not an emotional intelligence thing. It's within his his emotional bandwidth to be that manager that protects players like like I think we feel in England. I certainly those of us who watch the game that that's what a manager should do. Should be to protect the players Right and if you WANNA scream at them do so but not driving yes yeah. I just can't but wonder also like do we sometimes give Marino too much credit like is it. Is it definitely a thing that this is some kind of mind game or do you think that? Like he's an emotional guy. Don Delay is clearly good and Tottenham aren't getting that out of him. Players are hired with their biggest game of the season. Coming up on Tuesday in Donnelly was presumably. One of the guys who wasn't tired. Once again he gave a performance. That wasn't good enough And maybe Marino's just like it's just like one of those. You caught me after the game. You put a microphone in my face when I'm really mad if this guy and I'm honest felt it felt calculated. They'll didn't I tend to think that it is. I'm just throwing that out there but I don't even agree with that myself because he does it. So many times at all aimed convinced part of his his management style. I don't think it's in the best interests of the club to be acting like this I think it's I think it's bad I can't and I don't think it'll work. Crucially will and that is with because again if it works. Then he'll have this guy forever like there will be like it will tell me something about in Aa if he response to this and really kicks on it becomes a great. You know I always go back to what Damien Duff. Who was a young player at Chelsea? Who was not both by Marino and doffs hired work won him over and his willingness to do what marina wanted. Hey Daming you're going to be wing or you're going to get forward and you're gonNA score against Barcelona champions think you're also going to end up playing fullback for a lot of the Games. And he just kind of for the most part signed up for until he didn't and then Marino said I'm sad to see him goal but he way he sold doff not because he wouldn't do what that what was. He sold him. Because doc didn't really want to do it anymore not that he actively wouldn't and I'm wondering if maybe he's trying to break down. I don't know don belly. I don't think this saying to you that just like this has become a season that I can't wait for it to end partially because just like you go into all these games now just like what's the thing that's going to happen. That's going to ruin my day. But what's more than that? I'm actually now really curious to see this. All feels like one big tryout under Marino where? He's just testing everyone to see. Who's a part of his planet? Who's not I'm so curious. Once we get to the summer transfer window where we begin to find out the guys that he has no use for. And I'm reading reports where Levy said there's going to be fifty million cap if they don't make the Champions League which how's he going to respond that but yeah yeah the way? What do you think should happen to Eric? Dire? Do you think he should. He should receive a ban. For that. Is You can't go into the stand your Your breaking the what is it the fourth wall. You're you can't do that. The fourth wall would be turned into. I guess at the camera screamed at them to all of you watching. I hear you. Rooney did against Algeria Yeah it's one of those things where if you saw you're a family member in distress in the stands look among us wouldn't want to have that reaction which by the same token you're like you're also kind of right like a precedent sort of needs to be set that it's kind of just an unacceptable thing. Is there a place in the modern game? For a man of such average Colin. There was hardly a bad. This was not canton. A level that it wasn't but yeah it's one of those like weird ethical dilemmas. What's the one people always say? Would you would you steal a loaf of bread to feed the poor to feed your family? Yeah if you were starving. Yeah would feels like a direct parallel. Maybe this was even more important. A quite frankly One other team. We wanted to mention here for the bad. Jj last week we talked about. Oh classical And we said as big of a win as it was It almost feels meaningless in that. These two teams don't feel good enough to now go on and just win the remainder of their games and sure enough wral Madrid. Come right back and lose to row. Betty's to one and Barcelona on a late penalty from Leo Messi win their game and now jump right-back over Real Madrid. Nullifying the results last week. Essential Yeah This was Madrid. It's like Madrid were classed or or anything in this game. I mean better. Displayed played well at times but it was just the nature of the winner right. It's Ben's who scored the penalty on he collected in the middle of the. He's actually in midfield position. Just plays this atrocious. Pass like this completely square pass. I don't know who he was trying to pick. Oh I'd have to watch it again. And the whole defense opens up. It's like this. This massive gap and the baddest pair runs straight through and scores. And I'm like this is rubbish. You can't lose a ball in the center of the pack and automatically. It's a chance on goal. Like what kind of team is this? There's just not very good and you know it's weird though because Madrid. Statistically are actually having a really good defensive season better than what they typically do I know bombing dot was they still have. You're right. They still even the even the opener for bed which was a really good strike but it was at an angle and it's courtois who's never fully convinced people while he's been there Kinda get gets beaten at his near Post Mark Batra by the way missed a header. Guys go onto YouTube. It's on the sports account. Mark Batra has missed header was for lettuce was quite horrified. Is the kind. I think you would have scored in that position. I mean that's blank range so it could be more for Madrid a look. How could it be worse? They lost now they lost the game yet is don furious afterwards. Said that it was their worst game of the season Yeah it just didn't do the things I guess that he wanted them to do execution. Yeah there seemed to be a lot of that But again just the nature. I mean that should have been a mundane one. One draw if to be perfectly fair and there. Yeah a bad weekend for them. Bad weekend for Spurs. We'll see we'll see what happens next. let's go into what to watch for now. Champions League we'll start with spurs Tuesday. Four o'clock They go back to Germany to face. Rb Leipzig One. Nil is the deficit that they are up against two draws on the bounce in the Bundesliga for rb. Leipzig is that Is That A. Is it time to plant? No it's not a good tenth plan. Okay now I don't have. I don't have a good feeling about this. This is Kinda now. At a point with Tottenham where like the sample size is large enough where we know what the season is so for me to feel good about any game at this point like they're going to have to. They're going to have to get something going here and and start changing people's minds. There's no reason to really go into a game right now. Feeling good especially a game like this on the road against a really good German opponent The I don't I don't have a good feeling Tuesday. Four o'clock also Valencia and Atalanta Atalanta with a big four. One lead that going into that second leg back in Spain but if we recall recount the first Game Lancia had so many chances that they will be looking back on thinking. God if we'd maybe just converted one or two more though that was the thumping on paper only so it's going to be interesting to see what Valencia Pelota the the Messiah. Yeah then Wednesday Wednesday by the way is a sneaky. Jam Packed Day of soccer is. We'll start with the Champions League where Liverpool had a deficit against that Madrid. Going back to Anfield so you know how the script has already been written but they are trailing technically right now one nil that's at four o'clock by four o'clock eastern time because daylight savings so yeah. I know it's a weird. We're talk normally customer especially with your commute Right so four o'clock speaking of which I was actually thinking that for Tottenham I'm going to say right now because this is this may very well be their last truly like big game. I feel like the season. I think Linda try to go. Dvr Mode here. Oh and have a nice loss of wine as you watch him and evening yeah. I think I'd rather should they lose I think I would only rather like the last two hours of my day. Be ruined rather than like the entirety of it. If I watch it live in the middle of the day so I think I'm going to save it. I think I prefer to go to bed side. No but if they if they win though this would be such a huge comeback so I I think I want to really enjoy not have to watch it at work. I'm curious 'cause four o'clock I feel like it's late enough in the day. I wonder if people will agree that it feels like it's it's more attainable to avoid. The site thinks so and I also think you're to get to see the game quickly if you know what I mean. Yeah you can. Yeah because that should end around six unless there's extra time your commute is forty minutes so I feel like it's you know it can be done. It can be done. Amanda I mean my office. Don't disrupt me don't tell me what happened. Yeah Liverpool trailing Athletico Madrid. I do wonder I know Liverpool like another fun win over the weekend. Whatever Their waltz to the Li like they may actually gain actually win the league. Now there's a way that they could win it before they even play again Yeah city would have to do something. And then we we need to beat the EV are. Maybe I don't know well. Whatever I think there is a way but I'm focusing on Crystal Palace at home. I do wonder though Like you are in a stretch right now. That has not really been what what the season has been representative of. No it's a. It's a tricky spot. Yeah but does this would losing this going out in the round of sixteen of the Champions League This would like I know what the season is about. It's about one in the league but I would also say make no mistake like this would hurt. Yes it would. I think I think that is like Yep and so caught up in what they're doing in the league but this is like yeah because the ideal scenario is with the League almost title that you have all that was very soon you can focus solely on the Champions League. Think about US. We have eighty two points. It's the first week in March. That's insane it is insane and so it would be ashamed have built up all that momentum so you can avert not a free run butter really good focus on the Champions League retaining your chaplaincy. Yeah I I just want to say. There is a lot of negativity surrounding the fact Liverpool. They're fake open. The troubles are now and now you know. They unbeaten season. All this stuff. Liverpool's saints within twenty seventeen have been on believable the title race hopefully Solit- winning the title this season and to back to back European cups. This is a this has been an amazing stretch. Your in like this is an era. Now that the generation above you would would talk about this is. You're in that moment now where you will talk about. What one hundred percent. Yeah and then last but not least for the Champions League Wednesday four o'clock. Ps GM Borussia Dortmund Boy those games up against one another are so tough to decide which one you want. The deciding factor may be the fact. This is behind closed doors. That's what the room are. Statement was from not just room not rumor. What are we talking about? There will be no fans in the in the stadium For PS G. in this game. Against Dortmund I thought in the among the first leg matches I thought this was the most compelling. I mean it could still be the one to watch if you can just factor out the fact that you know. Say what you like about. Ps G. They do of amazing ultras like to really good and they would have. They're going to put up. They would have put up amazing atmosphere. It's no small thing to not have your home. Crowd Must Win Champions League Matt. Everything is befalling. Ps Gee just at these points we about pressure on Liverpool to advance boy the PS. Gee this is these are the moments like you get Neymar for a reason He can't go missing in this game. Which would really surprise me if he did Embodies playing well lately scored an amazing goal. I think they can do it I think. Psg can turn this around. I really do but I would. My heart would hurt for Giorgio if that were to happen to Borussia Dortmund and by the way the reason I say Wednesday. So jam packed. There's also the kind of makeup match between Manchester City and Arsenal at three thirty in the Premier League which like on its own would be a huge huge game that day So man and then. I haven't even gotten two Champions League. Tuesday eight o'clock Montreal and Olympia. And then here's your Wednesday games a doubleheader eight o'clock NYC fcat grace yeah by spoke to Ronnie of a manager of NYC AFC for Celtic manager They had their media day and he was bullish. The right word well decide for yourself must be great to be an international competition and against such a big and famed team from Mexico. What's the approach going to be? Lifted out one not going to be ourselves but of course we have to be be out of best. We have to really really get dumped everything we have then. We can beat an everybody in Champions League also that Melissa. We have everything to win. This the pressure is on the Mexicans and their likes to come from down. Get up as a hit from the bottom. I don't know what his name is. Big outside. Yeah exactly on the underdog underdog. That's GONNA be. They were going to do it. They difficult yeah slowly learning. Jj Two words that I don't know If they really have them in Europe hustle right and I guess underdog. We don't do Hustle We do have underdog though you do. Yeah we definitely do okay I'm rooting for Ronnie. Because Oh yeah. Nyc AC- had that defeat at the weekend in Toronto. It's a bad start. You could tell even after the Columbus game 'cause that interview after the Columbus game and he was He was so anxious to get back on the field. And and put it writing and get the winning. What what we expect will be winning going for NYC AFC. Do you agree with the idea of what he says? That all the pressures on T. Grace not no no no yeah not now. I Gen- generally the pressure is on the league. Mit's team they'll be favored As he points out the fact that NYC AFC of only scored against San Carlos. An haven't won a game in the league. Going into this puts pressure back in him. I would think He's very nice guy More Wednesday night in the Cup Champions League ten thirty club America and Atlanta United F C This is probably your high profile. Is this your most high? Well you know what no Thursday at ten thirty L. AFC in Cruz. Azul cruises all right now. I believe that I get an X. L. AFC Viewed by most as the best team in the last like this. What a match up to get at the quarter-final stage those are serious games. Yeah those are all first legs by the way So nothing will be officially decided Tuesday Wednesday or Thursday but obviously important games That is about it. I know you had one more clip here that you wanted to play. Well I two things I wanNA talk about. First of all a shame and humiliation continues oh the public shaming continues as. Tadic went after Sergio best against her and Wien Journey there disea- game which I x one three one but this was at nil nil believe on early in the game. Yeah and he just got into his face And it was. I went and I translated the nor the Netherlands paper the N. Sorry the AD newspaper to find out what Taty said. This is Tadic on his outburst in desks face. This is normal in football. There is always a little bit of emotion. He went forward. And if I lose the bowl I X is one nil behind. I was a bit emotional. That's good in a competition. He's a good boy and a player but have a lot of experience and then I tried to help him and also helped the team. I said to him not every time forward. He says it's normal. It's not knowing him. I was GONNA say he's right to appoint what he did was more. You don't see that but he did. I'm not saying it hasn't happened. You know what he can week out. Know why because when you watch it back. He shouts at desk does act and dust sashes him. Yeah basically and he didn't like that as captain as a senior guy and got right in his face. Are you okay with it or did you go too far? I think he's too far or you do for Roy. Keane stuff from like the nineties can't do it shouldn't do wow. I'm I'm surprised that that's your take on no you. I that public shaming. It's the same with a PEP Guardiola's barn Munich kimmage Lavin where he'd be enthusiastically After a cup final that they've won in his face doing all these things and being all emotional about what he should do. It should be just save it. Do it in the locker room. That's the place. Vert botanic isn't a coach like he's he can say to him. Gone down the tunnel the say. Listen it's fine for you to get forward. I lost that Balearic. Therein Behind Wounded Hern Wien. It's perfectly fine. Yeah I don't know exactly what it is. The death said back to him. He asked him. I'm actually kind of okay with it. If felt very older brother little brother to me and like I don't know the nature of their relationship. Maybe these guys outs in his face. Very domineering it's like it. It was free Alpha male. Now if you look at the top of the table I xe are tied with is at Alkmaar on fifty six point. So maybe it's the pressure him as captain that they they feel having such a cool slight risk. I don't know I finally the other thing was Listening to the PODCAST. That is the Benny Sal and Ike podcast The guys are talking to Sebastian legit Legit gives us an insight into his time with the Latin Ibrahimovic at the galaxy. Sack that your opponents that is just like you know the fact that it's so clear clear to see that that as soon as you make a mistake or you piss off for whatever reason it was like this for me right now and I and I've had a I've had a couple of those you know there's definitely moments where food like this guy gets on your back in. It's just something about him That just frightening crushes you. Ucla just literally take boots off and just walk off steel. Wow that is scathing. Yeah Oh he didn't vote for him in the MVP awards last season. He literally says that at the podcast and the guys take forever to get to the juicy stuff to name and shame. It's good it's good. Listen you can get on spotify after listen to our podcast obviously But yeah he was he. He ended the conversation about that by saying we'll be petted this-this in terms of not having him in why we'll see like the results do speak for something. The galaxy were never great while he was there now. They went on a bit of a run. I mean his nose were great but right but the as a team it felt like they didn't quite reach the heights that I think They were supposed to reach and he talked about the incident where they're in a wall and this clip went viral. I think I remember it but legit is beside him a legitimate. Do I go over the guy to the left to a Goku over the guy that left on this Latin Roy that as the ball is about to be kicked shelves legit and I think legit has been bearing that grudge for some time. Now a very interesting conversation about the jets career to One of my favorites. Yeah most underrated players. I seems like a nice guy to But he did not hold back neither neither did. Mls either the media people Put out that quote on Instagram from their official. Mls account really yes So they are not afraid. Now there's Latins gone to 'cause they they had nothing to say except tweet his stuff when he was there white. He slapped very interesting. I didn't know that. Yeah that's where I saw and then I went to the podcast. Yeah Oh wow so. That's Pretty I. I'd be curious. I get the feeling that legit has not just speaking for himself. No I think I had a conversation with Heath Pearce last week. Not to cut you off but we. This was kind of a thing. We talked about with Sweden. Yes when he was when he wanted to go back into the squad. It seemed like they didn't really want him back. No because if they wound up playing pretty well without him that changes everything i. I'm not sure the galaxy will be better without Zoltan. I don't know that to be the case. Said before I think they need legit and pylons have big seasons Thereto bottom everything goes through town when he plays it really does even at the national level I saw I was talking to Heath Pearce Last week and he said I asked on re what was he liked to play with and he had only good things to say generally and I was like we never not scared when you get the ball and you'd have to pick came out like 'cause if you don't you get the glare and he's like yes ending long accurate balls over the top scary. He said when he came short fine I could find him but when I had to do something a little bit more difficult and put it on a platform. That's when the nerve kicked it. That's interesting. Yeah Oh stuff. Hey before we get out. I believe you You have something that you need to tell the people. 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I always thought like I think it would have been more fun if they want it like because they want. I think the way has been so long that it just. I'm just trying to affect this in some way. I know you are. I mean there's a real chance with obviously we're what we're seeing with the corona virus that they may lift Copen and empty stadium. Oh Wow that that's why I wonder. What the Premier League if they if they wrap it up at home to Crystal Palace or if it's done for the home game crystal pilots. Would they give them the cop dot day like I mean? A full moon wanted sports more than a month around the world. This is A. We didn't really talk about this. It's a weird time to get into it now because we're super late but like this is a weird dilemma. That the entire world the sporting culture of this world is trying to deal with because there really are no larger public gatherings than what you get in gained prominence games. I mean the six nations. Rugby has been postponed artem. 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14 - Man City fall to Wolves

The 2 Robbies

40:58 min | 1 year ago

14 - Man City fall to Wolves

"Hello and welcome to podcast with me rubbing my style and him on his weekend off royal reacting to match week eight thermal European night home on Tuesday nobody saw this coming no bought last season outside of the four not not putting chances away you say the football is good generally yeah it was good on the goals for wolves came and they got caught out by a team who had a little bit of quality and the other thing I'll say a little bit of speed in the attack him food and they suffered your chance to go to go to goal now if you take those chances you get days like today most teams don't own good enough to create those chances Pins Manchester City losing at home to Wolverhampton Wanderers who travel back on Thursday from Turkey a tough game my man city got to go down this onto the picture over the top of the goal is drilling only does he got two goals today so so you think being critical the bulletin similarities going forward once the guys once Charlie's away you don't catch him anyway Andy Finishes which is lot news to everybody expected they are so vulnerable now you're talking about an isolated instances love every every team gave the ball away every team loses possession every team yelled the game we've seen over the games but people haven't taken those chances so it's not like we we should be over critical about the possession I hear what you're saying we'll sell doc by sloppy giveaways and around the ball to go to war school but very very similar if city don't possible well security accurately and keep possession to many times to stop them winning the League I'm not sure I don't think that's going to change I don't think they are but the point is when they do tests possession but what they did do very well thought is play reasonably we know Nuno's GonNa sit she's midfield influence and how the you can come up with some end scrape another win this time against Leicester City and the champions lose we'll touch other games one other storylines the weekend start my friend with the I'm get in there and Mon city get away with it today was just a day when all the football was good they created a chance didn't probably finish his shop as lead like today and they turned over possession yes the happens but one you've got funding your back there and Otamendi Otamendi makes poor impound out and it's something we've talked about with onto city and it's not being wise after the event is that there will be opportunities through transition to get established top sakes wolves had the best record against top six teams so they're not teamed up who will melt go the and be an all gonNa beat teams eight nil days like today like four times happened last season like twice it's happened this season they're going to get caught not going to be mindset that they don't play well they can call out in themselves to the back against the happens in all the games in because people will do that with city yeah I think we've we've identified eight which which which is an interesting debate certainly may be with with the second goal because the one thing that beats any defense they've got again Fernandina was expected to drop in there he's dropped back in there but he's not a natural sent back and this has happened many times before I continue to worry about the committed to attack as man city everybody is no back but that gets you a goals against Wofford looking vulnerable instead of having Vincent Company Emmerick LaPorte well that's that's what we go onto now my point was football was the same thing you can't always say just because they had lost its all implied two teams we saw Norwich game where knowledge our chances outright pace I don't care who you are how you sail if somebody can room quicker than you knock you pass Jim quicker now would that situation Saint Vincent Company is back there and I'm listen there's no bigger funds than US I'm sure for Denia yeah he doesn't know how to be the last man he knows how to be the defensive midfield player the look behind him and see guys behind him he can pass onto or you can deal with that this time he's the man and he doesn't make good decisions of winter one to try and play off side Ping up catch him off side or one thing why I'm going to minute this looks a little bit I've got him really quick I'm going to drop off and I think that is a continued problem for with the side Brian Stealing from the last Latinos a big threat made a change game change so eh facility for this season without certain players being fit and available and they called out I mean fat play the wolves rob we shouldn't absolutely not get wolves you you just fantastic there's an eight point gap probably or bigger picture of months to switch a year they got the stomach to dig in the situation yeah the succession just about how those two goals occurred Matt how Fernandina was a little bit chorale but again the switch the game plan plan to straight for the weekends done so the listeners viewers youtube channel. You'll see at the tactic session we talk about what could have been done differently we talking about they've got champion manager they've got dressing room full of quality players there'll be hurt there'll be stung by our listened to perhaps into what happens is it's not what city are we games recently when we saw we we we didn't we instead go look either because planned troy and a wingback position against rhyme sterling was a gamble that he wasn't going to be a liability against I mean it's come good which road you trying to go down and I'm not stealing you're spending too much time with lady low trying to St me down at a new nurse yes they they'll about champions into win it we still like impressed the Liverpool Compla- not great and find ways to win or is there a concern the pace the if vinegar in the same position as fin on Dino he's losing out rates as well to it but he drops off Bob Wow difficult game I think to be fair we predicted a bit difficult game for Bogus Leicester City James Milner penalty righted what commuters would he have a organized thing to all be dropped off this saying this this is not gonNA winning because osteen insightful would from him but yes evidence of what we've got evidence won't have seen over the last few years I'm not going to go down the bill it's the Champions League nations when the drop off when the boy happened again today dived in on the I think it was too bad decision I'm funding for the second at these times with city that you will get to the full chances and that's not okay there is no it's not okay but it's think they can they will still believe that it's not Dylan and I hope that Liverpool Funds Liverpool players don't think it's any GOP is done because with defensive shape in good enough to take John's today those teams today you got team was but that that city who you're listening to keep playing like this they're going to drop some point soon while they keep winning we keep being impressed Robbie mustoe because that's what other teams him I am Nuno well set up with these game plan put try only dot maturity on the inside is right win but too often actually counter and you've seen that game today I'm sure and the the boost that will give them other change their mindset is still in the season we know they had a big lead of last year but their game days now it was my same the same thing you know talking about the game first right now in terms of trauma leaked Steam Advani team can hunt you down but links nicely to the next game the next time they want to talk about Robin it is never poor and my goodness on a long long run loose I did last fourteen games to win the permanent about one point they go stomach is earlier this yes finding can see the top sixteen and notice topics team the way for Liverpool so it was a huge win the scenes at the end rob were the last season not playing well is a game this is not playing well it's three points if that becomes if that's the mindset of difference form there isn't much tougher days in Leicester City by the way and more away last Phychi GonNa take points off plenty of teams this season so at least one dome for for for each other don't in the past who've wouldn't child Liverpool haven't won a title yet and I've often been talked about as being a great football team but don't do enough on the possibility that he cannot shells in k. one side we've just linked just on a topic session we always try and break down something the penalty for you or penalty for you well listen for me the moment the referee points to the penalty spot penalty penalty because yeah I it was fascinating because both managers a really reliant on their fullbacks yet to get four into make the play we saw changes in we've got plenty of things it was like yesterday they want more they want something there of this technique on tossed in we've seen this team before finding scrap and ruined a phone together albeit it's taken them to details funnels out there so often because that's what the space is and this particular game you four of the best fullbacks in English football don't you and I just thought it was really interesting the pool need well so bad thoughts what's GonNa win a material playing winning game winning more games wanting to win more games when they maybe would have accepted to do then why I'm dispatch from no penalty to Stonewall I'm going toward stone because these contact rob the only we can talk about the penalty they find a way for millions to be the coolish Monday and everybody else is buying the nails and they find a way to sweep points and and I the as I was watching it I thought last season little would have been okay with the Joe didn't want to win but it'd been okay with the Georgia state and beaten to ah nervous came out which was his team played a little bit nervous today when wolves deepen able to break them down which was I felt clean there's something it's making this team I think believe it didn't play champions they didn't they didn't put one they found a way to get the power unless the city Ricardo Pereira Venture for Liverpool Robinson the game was about four bucks midfield plants counts each other out and you've got the when when Joe Gomez didn't play much change it when Liverpool need somebody to come in Download Radio Ron Okay it was remarkable iguanas mindset. Yeah thrilling absolutely brilliant I just WanNa give a mansion and we're going to move on to Jewish against this team members Seville's lock season around the wintertime went into war against some of those teams like last real good teams penalty things going on and Chelsea who's this guy and this guy somebody standing and then you get James Milner New Stanza Valley Astonished Liverpool Tri fold that we saw most languages striker so I think I think KLOPP trust money from more buyers the favorite day on lover in now don't give him praise to win the game he had the basic thanks again John Robb animator angry then stormed off with our buddy Steve Doing interview the foul on the Child Chowdhury the plants defending players are the ones I just always fascinating the the positions that not many people glamorize or talk about four bucks is so important because the dilatory UK not chose not goes up until now the interesting thing with vinny full full in the box referee points is for absolutely gotta give and then he's like who do you want stunning now thinking about rob munches you not you data okay Robbie mustoe Why should not buffet that close not my favorite. He's been a shaky in the past he did okay by the last one before we we've seen he does this now doesn't he throws one in a little bit and listen it's it's it's about foul HR professional file hounds in the the contract. If all Brian doesn't make the contact money's not able to get I ain't matic for there was no one there was a contract between O'Brien it's so funny because I looked at him and I thought he's got over here James is like he was so cool so cool it wasn't like it didn't lock you a leg break in one of those ankle ligaments is called is maybe call high harder than his show I'm just about how the game developed that white kept talking points that we should get to okay pounds seventy wards at the end there yes money sauce for you allegation to lose three nil the stadium in Brighton. What's bigger morrison losing females Hebron based on you've got you just got slapped saddened rub on it feels bigger in this game is one of those When we do our champions review at the end of the season will be along we we thought it was a kind of yellowcard professional is now that's why we talked about in the studio today more embarrassing Lee losing seventy two by Munich or two team that struggles the school goals a lot of people's tips many throws Robin into this I'm GonNa check my chops let us move it on my friend to team my goodness podcast him to dominated by this club sought wow it's a yellow card listen most we believe he'll louis responded we don't seem to go international break now I think that's being clocked every Noun Jeffrey wave away no penalty not claiming obvious Sarah the moment he could and she's it's slipping towards a crisis and at what point do we go whoa Ho hold on this is low point now it doesn't get any lower than this in a moment what he what he's gone and I looked at you look at the table with the other thing I just said twenty four points Liverpool Sixteen Monday night just feels big watch this was under the microscope this was under the motto this was like okay that's where we always spurs you know what's next when next we look squad but we say emotionally Machar the plays were obviously we wish him well and hope he seen playing first team football again guarantee you work right All-star the front showman sons got apply hurricanes go to play Ymca Samora came on like Oh yeah look different than everybody else does ethic from the reaction from the last game I think it's time we talk about politics but I think it's time for to pick a team that wants to play for Spurs the niece job in in in in effecting a game he come from the side of the pitch bull listen we've seen you guineas lied about the rain he's worried about the win these worried about fixtures he's worried about everything but that's it that's why the pool and all this twenty eight years is now we sing Harpoon of primarily title was interesting to me and this is kind of the bigger picture no bit what do we go this is a club that's that's losing a little bit of eight identity personality it slipping towards an HR harsh would cry you're getting beat seven at home surprises that you go Bryan and get beat three don't score don't don't look what you've got the drive the Russian yes the injury to to learn bye bye Munich you'll ever call team and quality falls in love and doffs ski in Nablus you've got beat seven at home so what's your reaction is it kind of feel that's where we get into taught him I I was shot rob shock to the lack of effort show the the lack of were reflective on the credit you should get to where he's taking this team and what are the standards book listen it wasn't that long ago Robin yes we got about two hours about this game mobile the game when it was time to kick tone over again at the time that Liverpool hunt the eight point gap and let it slip major shift in midfield I dunno maybe do play Delhi and say go on this team and this is going to be a hard working team in England primarily now topics up in discussion Mr L. ought to gonNA social continues to struggle badly with Manchester United Tottenham in crisis don't get up collectively and not might mean a break open it was interesting because I've had a couple of folks who really the criticism for parts now is kind of fifty six team in the Premier League let's think about how we fix it and how Paci knows fix it fix it is it first of all this is there a scenario the things that you have to look at the pool football club Jeez that good players still work hard mine chester city of caution great players when they need as well as the ability compressing the energy in the youth team it's interesting because you said you know run around it's like wow back to basics for me Potter Tina to kind of regroup this team which is what which is what they had star driver not the are you in the next few weeks where dunleavy FIS the manage up boom I'm saying no let's not I think Johnny Levi's too small guy to fire Patina listen they these to all the still all all this out there about you know Real Madrid as a little bit more spurs not always been top top sixteen it's been it's always been been challenging? The Champions League Spurs had been a mid-table primarily team in the fast and they listen I'm not saying they're going to the heading straight away but if things start to change for but will those key elements have hunger of word action taught them Hotspur got really good players I've got a good mix of things but if they stopped working hard job I'm telling you now they become yeah she wanted to play one to run around in midfield winks will run around loses the so-called a player that we've talked about how prove it run around he'll give they'll give spurs players and undo now feel that they've that good enough pleasant they don't have to do running around forty wouldn't you cannot stay job you got and soft you don't let your Tina's in is top three manages in in England some what's up with what's going to change Ed and if you go and Alex and be free and Cain with girl and lots out there and listen we know that he took before by how would love to mind is that club Do well I think we both himself what are going to say we need a win mentality around this football club to smiles on faces struggled against got beat by less than five last week months just united awful with this squad with a fear injuries to key players which we've gone go to Newcastle a team that's massively struggled and to lose one nil and I know that some injuries to key players let's go through Maciel yet will make them better we'll be in a team okay yes same as well yeah I mean yeah soccer insure yet their first choice fullbacks but they're not going to move the needle that much now much just just talking about bigger teams in testimony old plays you come back and make the team say the funds can come in chair or in some some good Kohl's somebody finishing three months united were woeful today we must against Newcastle team you I'm really I'd much work against anybody coming Pereira is okay one matter with his age now is okay Daniel James is off a little bit from his earlier on twins as Mattamy Fred Young I think he can stay I don't think I don't think he definitely wants to get along not as much as people think I feel yeah yeah I think this is where we are with Monday nights at this is where we are so the timetable table it's not it's not the players out there massive done it's an indication of what people how people are viewing much talked a lot about the robot deficiencies and Tippety rash and everything else moving to this game was there anything different did you learn anything different apart from public boasts edit boring is boring to watch for the midfield players in the football from forget relegated three hundred and twenty five to one to to win the title mold likelihood of them getting relegated in the MS wouldn't even tile which neither going to happen where a tell you where we stand right now to the two points off the road zone bussing nowadays fought heavy win the title two hundred to one darlow it's an average team is team I tell you what to do what what what did hit me as well do you know what I feel sorry for some of these kids Chung Greenwood helping these you're helping Daniel James in the Green Moods in the Gomez Chong's when they come on for fifteen twenty minutes away Newcastle so some help he now we we're being crinkle a little bit young quite gone yet hold on a minute you play so these others who should be being let's just WanNa play for us we go spend some change does he want to stay on for that you WANNA challenge finally next burs but little bit trait to grandpa his home primarily dot com goals are coming your nine hundred do we have inside too boring football or anything different I said we're a Koteles Times rob where I saw any picture a little bit from the other day maybe right but not enough quality anyway let's let's listen to the man himself on social said off your team reacting to this defeat said before the game account after national break we get time to evaluate what's been going on the first eight games because many of the Games have been very similar of course we've we have an and solutions where are the solutions that's the million dollar question now in it and it's now locally for us in he is GonNa Much Rebecca said to you halftime Steve Bruce must be the happy with the two months halftime within nil nil and that's out there and I thought the team I saw team when I look through the team in what the team in my head full testimonial side because you know things are a little bit difficult you Manchester United knee get to getting the best place getting the best and most experienced players on the pitch well it's my responsibility and I need to to sort their heads that's the main thing because young boys uh maybe lack confidence is that they need some help from the experience players and stuff on we're working hard to find out guy who would not rob and I feel on the development because they ain't got enough good people around him they ain't enough good people around him and Leist throughout but now is period that you could sit down and hopefully we'll get a few players brock maybe we left to put players field support and comfort that he's fifty one thousand funds ain't affecting on the pitch I just saw it was so if you look at Leicester City Right now rob I'm thinking

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Men in Blazers 10/07/19

Men In Blazers

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Men in Blazers 10/07/19

"This is Rebecca Lowe will rebecca if you listen to sub optimal radio and you are listening to men in Blazers on the NBC sports network aw from the embassy row studios in the crap Potter Soho seriously we need to discuss it would be reckless not to the article headlined from the Independent World Biggest Gathering of Nigel's listen to this podcast worst taste named Nigel Roger The worst key Gary Nigel Smith the landlord converged on a Worcestershire pub. On Sunday to quote celebrate Nigel Nigel Smith fifty-six the landlord of the fleas in Brett Fulton organized the causes hundreds of Uga fo- piece just right up and tweet the same singular article at us and happened this week we take it gathering in a bid to stop the name dying out after he discovered that there have been no babies named Nigel in two thousand and sixteen I presume in the UK a nickel of Nigel Mr Smith said in the year I was born nine hundred sixty three there were over five thousand Nigel's born it was peak Niger Nigel's but the youngest coming in just seven months that is cruelty suggesting a future for the denigrated the group even agree to Collective Noun for Nigel's act four hundred thirty three Nigel's to celebrate night you'll notice possibly the most English article of all time David Four hundred thirty three people named Nigel is believed to have set a new world record for the largest gathering of Nigel's in one place I love at the record for that all Nigel's given a free pint and a Nigel batch while other guests allegra occasionally something so massive happened in the world our world yeah which is in such a time of complex transition right now in case something happens out there my favorite quote of here's a man who changed his name from Nigel to Nile came in and we convinced him to pull himself together awards were given for the furthest travel the youngest and oldest Mr Smith suggested that the Nigel Farraj effect Niger's a controversial right wing politician Australia I know this for a fact it's a colloquial too and I think Jeffrey Peas can verify Australia and Joel is a nickname for which is good well they say they name Nigel but everybody's trying to get on the bandwagon coming you accursed this because of this we will research they'll be a lot more Nigel's next year than this year are deputy put money on that and we've just take it away a little bit of that stigma and reaffirmed what embiid Davies a great friend of current President Raj the Nigel shall not be named may have contributed to the demise are your current president may have contributed to the demise with some coming as far as the US Texan Nigel who lives in Denver Colorado wow that's also a problem nickname for somebody from Denver had his trip to the going on it's a it's a light it's almost like an Eden as art should be policed very bottom heavy this lot to get through in the pre Nigel's and non Nigel we should say and you listeners pod Raja's brother is named should not Roger Anymore you can be non Nigel Rogers all social misfit or someone who is friendless like in Liverpool we say billy no mate only Nigel's in Australia tomorrow term of derision yeah same London recall people they know Nigel Favorite Nigel about the world is divided into non piles chocolate which means everything else is parole in popularity of the name Nigel's travelled from Scotland Newcastle and Cornwall for Niger Related Revelry I wonder what that is really revelry completely the same thing back to the typical Australians they try they try to own everything which was that the event is believed we call it a kangaroo no one in the world calls at that the Nigel's now more American notables now they were a big weekend for your Nigel road all second name we'll take second name we'll yeah boy or girl yeah let us know when you call Your Baby Nigel. Spe of Nigel's Suare crowd funded by friends and family making him not only at Texan Nigel but also our crowd funded nudge humor the view and I just like I've never met an Englishman named clay or if I have never met they didn't Nigel Lawson the former chancellor the exchequer call his daughter Ni- Gela Yeah I think he did she's famous Sir well oil for heart darkness it's okay this entire pod is basically going to be therapy wrote this is going to be therapy it's GonNa make you feel better about everything we've started brother is named Nigel tonight and so- Roach by definition is a non Nigel he had an online can I just say my mother and Father Yeah Nigel is not going to have grown into it he added that sad never never met in American today you look a little skinny you look quite good well why not lose weight you you wearing a cap so I can't see how skinny intimate pulled it from the week I love the awake his WanNa say Jeff Oh let's bring back the name maybe it's the thing we need in America to make soccer go next level just have more Nigel's in the United States if you're listening and you're about to have a baby this year cool it Nigel in the youth development problem will be solved if there are more proper footballing countries have more Nigel's if you named Your Baby Nigel will send you a patch an American never isn't so here he's GonNa say you love that article you actually among the first can't Delia Smith cooking cooking Yeah Gela yes very pretty nine beautiful name bring more American restauration with everything in life because of the football you look good as my mother might dearly departed mother always used to say it's better to look good than to feel kinky any into dauntless it's so humbling yeah it's so to be reduced to just eight quivering mass I dread it at the La Sean he's worldwide the same people in in like Frenetic Nizhniy Australia you know what a gentleman the wrong side of fifty is just too hot I just wanted to be very warm platters is very humbling to start swimming at my age eighty seven it's just football you're not a worse person today than you were going in the weekend Raj it's not about the future of democracy which will be shouted we're living glory light the Nigel story is going yeah a little bit and then now four clever now it's going to be fine you do there's a certain edge ahead is because I don't like it when you win the veins on your forehead bulge when you lose your head fat talk about reduce me to a pile of absolute human by the other than the darkness yeah and bloodshot eyes and the darkness behind them and you're clear she's very so we have to talk about it and the reason that's probably two distress or to get healthier all those kind of things rebel do live version of the many blazes TV show at five PM Eastern Time Friday October twenty fifth because the studio facility will still be under construct actually thing I'm beginning to talk to you don't you strongly dislike I hated every every Wednesday morning and after go down there yeah I just it's just a dohrn and you men in Blazers Umbro tracksuit tall which will drop for the holiday season but we need to have a jock tag nailed down not literally probably so it in by October Oh yes I am so I mean separate the two things I love North Carolina Adore it the tar heel state but to be at the end W I can't wait to see each and every one of you in Texas I'm from their Raj you're going to be heading to North Carolina where you'll do a live show that Saturday the night before the end WFL yeah she loves you I think too much and I think it's fantastic I can't think of you so send your designs thrust beer men in Blazers at g mail DOT COM or on social media using the Hashtag Hashtag jock tag it doesn't in Austin Texas the Best Austin since Charlie we're GonNa hit the Boozer I think around eight o'clock right producer Jay dubb's we're going to go to a pub to be named this we we'll get one of a very limited edition of the forthcoming men in Blazers International Team Umbro by men in places and just be absolutely utterly crapper and just reduced to a harlot quivering maximum that just doing the basic thing standing athletically just like us a final at the end of this season triumph is a thing of one the GOP's who will be there in cary North Carolina lesson we cannot wait to read ah feeling good philly right let's do the part two big announcements Roger Masset humming train me up before we just full of wicked Austin view so is having a moment and on twitter yesterday the only way things could get any worse is if the Chicago bears lose all the CAN democratic system buckles both of which are not beyond the realms of possibility of course the bears plan at Tottenham then so bloody spurs either short thing is in the ninety five minute Manchester City their pursuers self-destructed Everton imploded their way into the relegation zone as we odd not put it together bolts so they wanNA show but there's no crowd allowed yes what are we doing dave we're going to have a drink with all GOP's that night he's a beer with the we should also mention the entries have been pouring in Rochford IB jock tag contest. Thank you Jeff Obese as you recall we're looking for a design yep okay roads we got a pack show we're going to break down livable's last minute winter stay on the season and the return to Anfield we scratch our heads heads and marvel I felt things this weekend a human darkness that no amount of listening to Tracy Chapman's debut album could cure shape your American boy wonder how to that an amazing only football Liverpool to Leicester won the league leaders extend their primarily winning streak to seventeen games one short of Manchester City's record thanks to some last gas a toast I raised this to a difficult we can bill of darkness and self loathing Batman cities home loss to wolves reponded the future future future of Mercutio Portu- Tina Road and Ali GonNA sauce is ten years after deflating losses for Spurs be a man whom I admire is struggling beautiful took it in the face May migraine May Daryl morey assist assist cover the ages cow Beckerman but found blood fam- a morning this is Dr Raj putting this morning but raise this feeling things even sadness because feeling to just wait of let us know that we are alive Roger Courage why you said you started going to pilates too I started at bar with an gateway drug doing those sort of barrick sizes and now I've email's the best miltants meek mill's clash between the Premier League to inform teams but more than that really a clash between fashionable slash is called killer Jimmy Mill censh- Michael the wrong way and sent livable eight points clear they are one of two teams in the top four tiers of English football now that are undefeated I wonder who the other one maybe they play in blue in east Anglia new smile whom you mistakenly swiped right and then just won't stop messaging you brought is less than would not go away di Di Potenza they called level eh you're trends you're transposing your one thing another thing we will be in Austin Texas as part of NBC's Premier League fanfest the shipping is out there so that we can build it when we get there and I miss over that won't take more than half an hour we can probably by by one of our studios here drama in brothers returned to Liverpool hit I on forty minutes when James Milner Sprung saudi-omani who slotted past Kasper Schmeichel but like a tinder match so much sport so much I've actually developed you would do this APP developed quite a thick skin I don't let it get to me I always anymore Philippine of defeat just the just the irradiation of a goal conceded despite I will have made this has been a tough foyer for the benefit how old Liverpool yeah and character but it's now just the club may wary is looking cops landlords can you think of a worse nightmare landlord thank you I will also cover Christian Pulisic and Chelsea we might also discuss Everton taste yet throat oh Liverpool opened up with control passing Game Trent Alexander Arnold nutmeg lasted barely touched the ball in the first minutes but then they would into four bit skittish originally started doing philosophy. I think it's fascinating well I hate it why do you hate me ten pack okay why did you buy that for you onto hot PALATIS IN LA got too hot plateau most definitely killed pillar I want to start something called very warm plateau is because good for you but this was the most neutralized the I've seen Liverpool both teams love wherever brought says about defending forward both teams love to print anybody's paying better than Lester other than liberal right now and I thought they neutralize them they did pretty well this has been going on for a few weeks Liverpool of not quite click going the passes coming together the wrangled runs and doing what Brendan Calls Dave Defending Ford Lester don't press that don't they defend trademark title of traps and Guile both teams tempting the other into a committing like a great la- Carey novel filled with counter intelligence agents double agents and the re- recent England call up James Madison but in the nineteen th minute after markle Brighton clumsily made contact with to give Liverpool a penalty honest milner had more space than anybody on the field and give a player of that quality we forget that Jimmy Mills a young man was a a creative playmate the spacey left behind them was always less best opportunity to prove for vulnerability and the more they plumbed the more they grew into the game until Liverpool stunned them a counterattack the accident Jimmy Mills used to be but we just we don't think of him he is very fast he's a very good athlete we just there's something about him because he's blood used to be so low swimming laps in a pool where everyone else is playing water polo and that kind of redefine them in the eyes of the English public but he is so many skills that he returned the reds once his true love a team who may have lost games in the broad Jira but always one the most important battles the possession stats aw that is so David Brent in the office defending for which it was Chester David Yeah yeah no it was to me this was a fascinating game broaches e and is it for the first time in his career Pearl Chat to return to Anfield Aka the host the brunch belt the two really good sides to really well coached sides two sides players very fixed starting lineups very players who know each other very well playing superb football could do almost no wrong mazing record playing for England than the under twenty one's I saw them play some fantastic games until the accident I can barely raise this bird. My Party's Tommy John Tell me jump from Augie into space and when a mandate runs free golden shoes clinical finish team-leading eighth goal and all competent in the second half less vanilla that we forget actually how good is responding now you in the two thousand ten will cut robot Jimmy Mills really killed him he said that Jimmy Milner is just a man annoying them annoying them sort of attack terriers through the entire entire game but at the same time the frustrating thing for less there was that they had Jamie Body my last the struck and some James Madison yeah handsome James Madison that sort of haircut little boys lowering to getting their head cutler they would go in and they want to James The final twenty minutes of the game was one of those MCI optical illusion paintings reflective steps that goes on forever a snake eating its own tail until ten minutes from and counter and football essentially about determining how many men you can commit to attack and how many are going to keep back to maintain God and did become a fascinating tactical in his imagination and spend all weekend run up reliving his worst moment Stevie g slip and he's conscious uncoupling from Liverpool football club almost four years ago to the day who've little put your seems stronger faster better in every way in terms of the mirror images of these teams say they're so similar but it did for James Milner everything that was good here's James Milner had a lot of space they seem to decide that okay Jimmy Mills will give him he's not in a killer go rip from the Leicester City play but I mean there were these two teams and all that intermingling taught to tell well began unless the city and but what go he told Jay Adrian Yeah definitely throw him but you know when you put your laces through a football it's amazing how often you score when you when you middle it when you just Brendan Rodgers David when you've got a block laugh bridge coming around wherever sleeves rolled up in a toilet fluid must-have row router Toto Cha keep winning games we will be an American I this is about it's not about livable didn't neutralize Liverpool one able to sort of play that fluid fast moving football that they've been able to play that sort of completely ridiculously comfortable possession let's to seem just not it it's amazing how nauseates me Ruta one show Ongo Falesa won't go one nausea such from point at the TV how much football of you what's in your life this is not the first time you've done something like this the photo was sex it's a bit more complicated. He has created a WHATSAPP group for my kids yet cooled tentative he's a very good uncle is called the evidence or a stunning admission to make David I believe it was all my fault really why what did you do did you turn off the game worth long spells it just a little light Liverpool were just superior in every facet of the game yeah they looked better they definitely were the better team and definitely deserves a result I don't take that away from there but take reflected by the time I think in that first half Trent Alexander on old was both teams best threat is powerful presence on the flight because Ben Chill wills who much trouble Brendan Rodgers Punchier go blessed bridge Jay DUBB's tend to me on Friday and said great some achieve greatness some have greatness have you changed your underwear something even more dressed in my brother knowledge yeah as you know massive fan are you sent him a message you sent always photos many of them semi Nude Greta Thornburg in a sport pest assurance that the UN saying Everton you've taken away my child he didn't send a but just the thought they saw the last time I've ever done this with when Everton Chelsea and John Terry made a terrible mistake with nfl I will say is that Bulwer in the new East that came out my throat I haven't made that noise in a long time it was more joy than will experience from the totality of the rest of evidence in ninety one minutes in this game thrust upon them the branches one of those rare individuals who makes all three but that joy David would soon tend to ashes embroiled mouth NASHA and a couple too many red bull and vodka on the bench and my chance to feel happy and to experience love again this weekend what to crap Mark O'Brien David what was he didn't post it what was he thinking how did he cost me out like this Alan Shearer match of the day told the contact was made by manner he thought that was a harsh penalty but var disagree yet but GEICO and then at the same time much in his in his head that Daniel Craig's into his hairdresser and saying I'd like it well maybe it's dentists do you have projects Asia love run on the field but could take advantage of neither of those two assets as they sought to counter Liverpool counter countered it's just the game was just one analysts counterattack ripois that genuinely poised the bloody thing seconds away my fingers was was hovering over the post where markle Brian meds advises podcast we back like Krisztian puts his headphones on a lover it was the same group your kids are on take your well involve more to say I made my kids Peiris under the television and last I do know David could've put the ball out for Corner O'Brien yeah so I didn't say that I mean he breathed on Monday I rule of football have handed Everton the game I took a photo of me laughing under the television John Terry's mistake sent it to you and Chelsea I do not learned my lessons Brian Yeah no shit when you not just that's such a broad training came out not james when approach to children who will get the broad check Peres were the ball to handsome James Madison is brought to bear on the to the pokes spun the ball would you say through a slight Raj celebrating the goal and the end Liverpool's perfect record my some bag on my second son so much wider genuinely about posted the crap and which he told his children regularly posting memes mock evidence there's loads of Somali what time and he said dad that's stopping don't wait till the final whistle yeah just be sure and I was J ignored that than the stemming pause it was clipped around Joni Evans you look at even if we get what he was looking for the second he took control that ball new mandate Addison Raj Raj thanks they're asking for broach the probably not sums up the broad as the kind of guy who go into his address and ask for a Daniel Craig I didn't know how to the surgery a bad case of Tommy John Me may yeah no he shouldn't put it that way I mean you can just imagine rushing way if you're breath sent him spiraling is tough when they're watching tape today or whatever they they review the game with everybody is going to be I felt with every atom of is being given a wanted given is really not going to return that do steps tough moment from Uncle Brian why he didn't just heave that bullying and there you go I mean it was it was it was eight light touch which British tennis player Tim Henman and say you know when it comes to the big matches when it comes to the Wimbledon semifinal winning a major he never quite does it he doesn't have it broaches and post game we may have lost the match but we want something more I mean what what did they win could be a walk on role in being able to the less to exile years into that see I have a slightly different view in the people always used to criticize approach told them to fix the guest toilet it was like less good team will say I think very good team called them the best that you see is there a lot of non champions playing against them in the normal scheme of things there are a number of very close games the season that liveable if they're playing against champion level teams they wouldn't be winning I mean the ninety minutes maybe more than edged at and terrible defensive mistake at the end ultimately not putting that pull out when you're that far into injury game management is the very in vogue emily is we're seeing what people who aren't champions do throwing away this game at the very end making these dumb mistakes against team almost gifting the league deliver Paul that is just not mentally tough enough to go and put himself over the line and the reality is if you look at his technique Tim Henman overachieved massively as a tennis player he actually pushed himself through his but you never quite impressed by him as he's impressed by himself is the sadness bridge he is a dog with the bone the falls in love with his own reflection in the loaded the celebration arms crossed yeah no emotion exactly the way the renaissance bursts that will be carved and erected outside unfilled after freshener footballing westworld host I never thought for a second that he would poke but the ball wide never ruthless clinical code on win and look after the game what everybody's talking about is that sort champions do champions go out they figure a way to win those games at the end I actually think what is going on more in the wonderful days for them nobody's expects them to go outfield and win and so these are the Times without pressure on you you sort of think that they should have figured out a way to manage that game until the end and then loses that bone is attitude was revealed in a tweet that handsome light shoe shoe that cult hero was essentially slap had Methadone e tweeted a win the title I find this all just so remarkably numbing as we will discuss but from the perspective grueling they must have been for Brendan Rodgers descended drew it would have been a fair result I think it's great character jamming look I think it would have been a fair result but I think Liverpool still edged it over the allaster may superb job but at the same time lester playing with house money there's very little pressure on them in games like this they are over achieving these thinking about his team is good they often wilt in the crucible and it's a very broad like thing because as good as he is and you should be impressed by mental toughness too way out achieve the level of his tennis dance G and I have a feeling that Brendan Rodgers does the same thing with his teams I think he actually gets more out of his team's than they are on paper and he's he's a brilliant motivator for all of these reasons washes defend yeah he I is a brilliant motivator but I'm just not sure that he tried his close talking big timing things to your clock in the handshakes manager handshake union was not having any of it you just kind of kind of push right when it comes down to the technical part of the game when it comes down to having the pies quality players these really got what it takes to achieve at the highest highest highest level Liverpool this season which I don't think it was a sub tweet of Manchester City but could be seen as they've they do have to thank for that don't know brought us on an unbelievable job definitely given a scare to leave three points in that magnificent seventeen match perfect record intact after that scare to me it's a true testament to that magnificient mood phrase this was terrible game management at the very least character character which brought values more than a point which is just as well because he got and I do wonder what he felt the ANC game I was watching it in disbelief watching an old Manchester City game how old but when they were playing in division two no back meeting a win to close the gap to five points they spend the first eighteen minutes trying to find a way through wells drilled Wolverhampton Wanderers city searching for the metamucil lamb wanted easier they didn't want a game that was that hard after probably the crushing heartbreak of watching Lester implode against Liverpool right during injury time they just did the street your plateau session okay yes to city a hard game and it showed in the primary if you don't show up and you don't want to in the face roach you're going to get it in the face that whole domination without scoring that we season because they did it and that Jerry rig bat line was so checkoffs gun in that first half that theatrical rule play right should introduce an element into the story great and despite Bay for these slight downgrade on two of the most crucial players on their team Liverpool just keep rolling on and then worse news my pillow teas right now I mean every week saying you into this they are not quite far ring on full cylinders this week Salva continue to look off the pace and there's definitely a vulnerability um I mean we wouldn't have known that from the we city just from the off hemmed bulls back and Credit Nunez boys they were so organized defensively just deliverables battling sacrilegious to say right now but verge does look while the indomitable man-mountain Jrue Sotraz still very good just not going on very little noise very little didn't even hear much frustration you just felt tension yeah and his team continued to play the most important football it's possible add figure here on the sideline with with I mean we've seen it before but how little atmosphere there was at the EPA had just ferry teach shawn's just confirm the settle that would break all of our youtube records if we instead of the ball and you just didn't see individual moments Brigham city they want sort of taking on please everybody seems sort of defanged on the city side everyone like they were frustrated fits in caliber me said to me in that first half and it would come to pass city did hit the post office Silver Free Kick Butt on Wolves v Jailbreak Jimenez the greatest player of all-time credit walls as you said they were so good last season against top six teams and on this day they reclaim that status had a game plan and stuck to it Oy to kick in at the had seventy six present possession facility just a tool edge missing no matter how many Offensive Weapons Bernard Silver Ajay's use that was eighty bay on the bright side there was no johnstone's also injured on this day I think the player that more than any other event is La Porte was in that moment city Stern David no response yet zero response I think that was the interesting thing zero response pep once again Danny credibly yeah no just no difference on this this is more like the walls of last season than the euro perfect wolves we see most of this season yeah they really do defend their so organized he just has confidence they now trail Liverpool by eight points the biggest lead ever in the primarily gave her the stage is it over Dave Oh no city aside where these and those who don't know history are doomed to leak another jailbreak goal at dormitory the man who wikipedia briefly recognized as make-shift back line right back playing left back midfield as it center I'm probably will have going deep into two thousand and twenty just seems to bleed the team of their superlative accused slipping in Who finished sharply deliriously leaving Edison to pummel the floor in howling frustration which is exactly how I so you know you just didn't see them taking on you didn't see those intricate little one-twos I thought wolves did an amazing job defending that though of not watching and training the pools have to play wolves twice goals? I will say I was left Halloween at the end of this just staring into the abyss of a Liverpool title win which I really the city on this day Saturday in Kendall Roy actually the worst performance since Kendall Roy's L. to the they've lost two of their first eight games so in the city I really admire Liverpool's perfect record even more showed you just how hard it is to keep really win after win after win which city now from orig- speedster Adama Traore a hit twice in the last fifty minutes to sink the defending champs is cities second loss of the season I don't even know how to process this result all this the opening day tottenham have lost seventeen games in all competitions in two thousand nine team more than any other top flight side wow always used to say hate reasoned bought the Cossack Killer Yeah Hey we're very strongly dislike with the reason that would and go home and not pod for the rest of the season it's going to be the best season of billions yet a I think there's a lot more to happen city may not be the contenders as it comes into play that element in this game autumn Mendi was definitely the gun so Erin Lecavalier in his defensive duties that my son Bear pointed out to me Eagle just after this game speaking to my mate Jamie childhood blue friend just Liverpool's desperation to win a title he said this probably got something in store for us so I doubt it's over I think there are more things going to go on going to be the best back up the equipment but primarily seasons are rarely straight lines like that it's rarely that simple there's usually a twist in the tale right is a pretty bloody good roads so we'll drill so we'll coach that discipline in all of their lines I thought it was so impressed show lights out when cooled and Mansi without moments of individual brilliance without the ability Reggie from lowly Brighton an early Hugo Lewis Howler and a brace from nineteen year old governor of Galway Aaron Connelly gave the Gulls their first win what we can take these broken spirits learn to fly again learn to live so only thing that fuels the only thing that fills us up everything clearly not going to win anything anytime soon and it hurts me to admit that could win the championship as Jen Spurs respond to that most humiliating loss in the Schettino era you know why that's the most honest question roach it's because Jay gals goes around wolves primed to hit city on the Counter Jimenez missed about three early chances in that first off what was going wrong because I did don't listen to it listen to miss that take these broken spurs seventy two capitulation against a really just a centerfold mazing may which one of these songs by the way if you now young listeners go and listen to it you what were they talking about my blood runs cold in the world's most important council I mean we'll say spurs at least making some progress learning some lessons they didn't score I in this one and I still don't understand that routine cross came in Laurie slept up to catch it casually like and then realized I'm falling I'm falling backwards over the free okay stop that parties I listened to that one that no one Mr Mr Mr the checkers those worrying weapons of city Mauro Silva your gun the ones comma cody who is a childhood Liverpool found which is everywhere eighteen you will not see this was almost an active charity and to top it all this horrific horrific way to start the weekend lorries injured himself in the process and me league seasons on never straight lines it feels right now the inevitability of Liverpool crushing and winning this league by twenty points and by the way could happen Brighton Three Spurs on the high road things continue to devolve at Spurs who followed up their seven two champions league humiliation at the hands of by Munich by getting they could concede brutally later it's a trap but two minutes twenty eight seconds one happened I still have one hundred times this weekend this opening goal win this when camped entirely new opponents box so predictable the walls backline he's going to grow stronger and stronger as the game went on they just realized that could swat you know what band was J. Gyles in America the question going to this one was yeah how it was a kind of a current state where we've seen this before in knocks the stuffing Adva- team Eric Dia said after the game why did Spurs replay the bending in the wrong direction on the big screen Seven to concede seven goals at home in the Champions League it was just extraordinary and then this game just started so weirdly this moment and just the dislocation there was awful to watch laureate atop jen but really aspen a symbol of Spurs Malays the first day weeks of the season think that's the crystal candy could be palace roads easily now need to beat Liverpool twice and factor in Everton oversee winning both Darby's which is one hundred percent going to happen but this was spurs worst primarily law since two thousand seventeen awesome fans don't let me when I say this after the thrilling football the confident joyous culture all at Spurs promise they painstakingly crafted by Podge over five seasons. It's really incredibly hard to watch this spurs employees Eh lots of stories today in the in the British newspapers about the atmosphere spurs behind the scenes players resenting the owner's salary yeah Potter Tinos Mood Swing Three must've been just crushing but from there what good teams do is they bounce back and Tottenham showed absolutely no ability to bounce back you just saw the levels of panic and doomed terrible game a game which part should meet its own team gave up buying scored a touchdown a loss that followed the smart in the hands of four tick- culture engulfing spurs right now is if the last few seasons of one that were purchased with some kind of Rob Johnson s deal with the devil across roads that was now being called in it just left the saw spurs them that much to knock out to begin with they've not a normal lost the midweek loss to bind Munich as good as by Munich. Oh you don't it's switch before candidate but agenda trying to take the high road in life hurts me WHO's The gentlemen Terry Assay the question going by the way I looked up Jay guile spend on Google the other day you know one of the most asked the question about the band is when you tell you Jason Line and instead of just chucking the ball of the ball is just dropped on the line to tap in Brian scored one goal in five games a more constant your four years Dan Levy refuses to to move telling on is it over the top Namara I think it's a little bit too early to call it completely and the modern footballer requires a lot of energy in one way or another coming from their manager and it's the energy of the Jurgen Klopp it's that vert because teams go through bad patches occasionally and then bounce back but you know the the modern football of this is something that occurred to me watching football this week up they need a reason to feel good about things and this is very difficult when you're five years into your tenure you're saying the same things you know the players tend to sort of Choon you out a little bit list individual to go and deal with and so just you sort of need something to happen spurs them to come back the emergence of a new player some new style don't got ninety seven percents of the headlines but we shouldn't forget a fantastic performance by Graham Potter's team at Delirious Day for Brian and who've album fans take a little happiness the a lot of good work punch one to clear out Sir Alex Ferguson always used to say the for healthy squad to remain fresh plays needs to be cycled out even the Alpha Woman's every three get worse for Spurs after watching lorries the point I can they never got going tactically brilliant bright and drove them backwards overwhelming than we're pace down the being moment they need something that's not just hurricane scoring a boatload of goals they're going to need something new to refresh them law seventeen games all comes two thousand nine hundred on any other top flight side to me proof that teams don't sly gracefully into decline they just implode you see Dortmund in clubs final year there and no levy is not a popular figure at the best of times players with anybody really he's he's apparently very difficult person to the wall things nineteen year old Irishman Aaron Connelly in his first are knocked in a rebound cute bright and fans out the AMEX singing we want seven and spurs meld the constant recession Newcastle one man united nil tune side full of Piss and Steve Bruce's leftover chip vinegar at another wrinkled stuff who's equally as sunlight verse brother Sean was beside him in the starting lineup wonderful story wrote Steve Bruce Volt out of the relegation zone with their second one of the `imbursement managing zero shots in the Europa League game against mighty as at Mar Injury last longer than the team sheet poker Marsha got lindelof on and on and on they remind me when we played rugby we started playing rugby located near the schools and we plan incredible local team we'll end the nine sand in united a winless in the last eight league games their longest such run in the talk since one thousand nine hundred even getting killed by Jinja's now ended up at Old Trafford but for Spurs fans to everything is a season turn to every purpose under heaven tone to be bored time to die he was gonNA play two of them lie English versions of the Manning Brothers only gingy Translucent Ramirez Steve Bruce wanted to pick mummy longstaff offense frank lampard playing the baby's Steve Bruce did this weekend he bought in nineteen year old brother of one of his players that energize the entire squad they need a reason to get into plant time to return to kill time to heal time to laugh and the time to wheat peas stew said bright side at least all the new American totten's only Ghana's baby facing this high passion low-quality affair the difference a seventy second minute piledriver from nine hundred year old debutante and local lad matty every lives and says I was at a band once and he says it's so often that people immediately search what they want well it doesn't do anyone could he's dead the high road just behind me to admit that but it's my grandfather Sam God in Salim's who always just destroyed it like seventy eight nail we were forty two nil down a halftime it was minus twenty snowing it was freezing and it can change so much their midfield lacks thrust creativity sanches God even just for piano playing dogs work in footballing four none of this will hurt potch no more than clubs dormant falling apart him to me it's just the end of a project wouldn't be surprised if he carso as you said featuring too long stuff short and his nineteen years one hundred nine day old brother Matthew lungs think turned up to run the club shop and was told things Matt plan manages exhausted each other for you see diets now average David Deli doesn't even get off the bench cain roommate he's just one mighty International Champions League Cup victory to show for it and they've now got to spend the long international break wondering how do we just be then I give you this when he was alive he did not alone we got love can we just walk Chad all the time in the world to drill just your run of the male local Newcastle kid making steps against Manchester United delivering the killer blow no Biggie while performance you've lost to a four tier team been humiliated in the champions the you've done your managerial bollocking thing you've had clear the as players only meeting when you've tried to circle Mike and us against the world and then you still leak endlessly bright and went from the other question I feel spurs fan so much remarkable football is to make up there for him with the invincible shirts Newcastle's man of the match and think how good Mattie longstaff will be David when he's been exposed to sunlight for a little bit longer commander let's at two thousand Neil that was this season that was just a couple of months ago and now look at Chelsea laughing on the other side man united it's just a all of it is a spectacle teaches you a life lesson about love it's just ultimately futile don't believe in it listeners there was one moment of magic seventy-second off two thousand and one thousand nine hundred no one wants to play bass sure of dreams and legends is now just one by Fred is a darkness I mean dude is like a walking infomercial. SPF Ninety let's be clear Newcastle still crap single worst in England clueless manager let loose the squad pause they're about to learn what being a spurs fan is really all about David that football size he said they implode they don't go quietly just implode until eleven we do the employees wanted to go back I won't be humiliated so we all pretended to be injured we pretended to be aged so we could stay in that warm locker room we only sent to play out for the second the scenes were just amazing childhood fantasies Comic Book Style by the way we should say mention to the left him with no pressure whatsoever on the edge doc to want chosen it David Rush Vote Against Newcastle's five-man bat line on his name Yeah I mean let's not forget the opening day of the season Raj against Chelsea four I hope they used to always laugh about it team of Eleven Jack quarterbacks they're just like Oh let's zoom fight this word which chair for even though it put Everton in the relegation zone because I admire Newcastle Fan so much how they've suffered more than any passionate Kumi a beloved stuff over Stop Dot Look Steph eh I shot the game for Newcastle who delivered it Massey Longstaff Rodney is fantastic clattered the bar in the first half and this one fantast mastic put his laces through it Raji gnarly no not stat and fantastic finish scenes the seeds even though the common shooting was sure that it was going to be ruled offside up for the penalty that Jimmy Mills man with no soul me yes no so no no no you don't feel anything as legs westworld host essentially correct use of that metro this Roger Jen talking about behind the gentleman over late night prevented Mommy longstaff making debut it was dark turned up at the Lonestar family on this this week he's got the long stuff going to filled his whole first she got laid note. How's that Springer Spaniel Football God yes I mean really how can ginger stumbled a great name for a band stumbled in fresh off support base should take for granted by an awful for one day they save at that local love making full dreams come true but united I can't stand talking about the week to be honest saving enough poor ole a lovely blake just suffer is aging before our eyes these Gullam more and more and more a hail Christian policing extent Chelsea's winning streak to four games no competitions moved them into fifth place yeah a primarily classic this game which will be that burn out of his element Beanie Feldstein Book Smart we'll get to him in a minute they've but in this one ruthless dominant I can't forever remembered as the Christian Pulisic garbage time assist Game Yup we've tapestries now sports historians yet in big news for the United cut the men in blazers preview video now j. dubs to Liverpool wow wow roach asmal one almost bundy flailing lost three on the balanced Southampton but no match for Tammy Abrahama Mason Mount here's a question they twelve goals fending for eighty one minutes plus Southampton one Chelsea four buoyed by the prospects of nine thousand nine flakes if they behave Franks babies little babies run rampant estate Christian Pulisic made the bench oh a nation majorities deep state you can't keep him down when he's had a tough couple of weeks I mean third place run don't walk shout don't whisper only stay calm drama free weekend for offline amazing amazing? I'm sure it didn't feel like that. Despite lukewarm contribution it was not always inspiring final whistle was actually a relief as arsenal clung on for the win and their first home clean one nil to the arsenal with the lone goal coming off a header from what Frankl Rock International David Louise in the ninth minute pragmatic if not pretty performance see Zafy coast goals from Tammy Abraham Mason Mount born Portsmouth van rose loves scoring against Southampton can't say Bats Raj the law run off them keep that I primarily clean sheet since opening day moves them into third in the table Roach glimmer of her pro younger arsenal future eighteen year old Gabriella Martinelli stubbornly give me all the politic treatment and pay treatment politic wishes he was getting the kid with a ninety million dollar transfer and droppable yeah go life proteomic fantastic goal callum Hudson Doi beautiful I his first touch unbelievable a long term astonished she said Well David Louise just did something good that broken clock who somehow even write once a day they wanna ask and then they'll be good again and then they'll do this again it's just not a team it's just not a team run yeah their injuries but this was so insipid and it wasn't isolated nine points from their first eight games no wins four draws and their last eleven on the road that worst away form in the years who's just there now to counter a pattern chiappa casino in Reno Dave these try and raise morale with the international break embrace himself for the next game which could not be bigger symbolically culturally historically style jeff for the great days in the nineties even though that memory is violated by the Karaoke mediocre footballing ability less football managers more casino greeter yeah between the two of them this season are they temps in Abra Mount Abram mountain or Mount Abraham Abraham it sounds Biblical He's he's not an I look I I must say I found I look and I think it gets overstated all this Christian story because mostly ailing that you've got a young player who is suddenly voicing he's been at the club for like two months and he's now voicing his unhappiness when actually everything's going really without smile small step for man giant step for mankind look he came on and did exactly what he had to do is he had pretty good performance a good nicest he didn't touch the ball a lot it'll wobble the little woah where bats they probably learned it on the bench together endorsement I realized afterwards that I actually think that was more important than the Joe we'll look really plays him in the big ones and the and the camera bowel for the primarily stays true to the doctor Old Trafford eight the Season Co League leading eight to the season and then combined with Mason Mount Thompson double for a blast us because we're in the United States and because people in the United States are obsessed with it and therefore it gets over reported to be picked up more lead into the British press because there was this Chelsea strolling to victory with Geez they even had time to bring on Christian Pulisic make a boy's dream come true in the seventy nine minute what did you think they very trotted putting his players out there this week petro apparently carrying something so he got ahead of Petro in the in the in the pecking order and he ended up coming so much public stuff and it's not just Christian must be people around Christian talking about him leaving in January talking about his disappointment is frustration all of them bless celebrate neighbor who was the hero on This Day Avid Louise Roach yes David Lewis did something good carpet you all your funds he'd be like and the message is clear shirt up train hard like you play do you talking although am starting to believe Chelsea spent seventy three million dollars not to Taber Abramov really good lawyer the other way I'm getting the Third Book of the Gospel Yeah that'd be very good I'm going with Thompson from Tammy and then the calmness of the Finnish instinctive rain law because it didn't sort of shattered the back of the net these very underrated goals I think this is one of the turns pretty well he's part of a very good team he's going to have minutes frank has been very clear that he's going to have minutes he's got to do it and training he seems to be doing more training which is why I got a chance and he did well but he's watching him celebrate and be part of that team was more important he's gone friends is that we got some mates we ashes more than anything else annoyed Joyce trillion friends maybe but also I'm not sure that he completely deserved his place in that team hard to believe for American fans but frank is an only reading what you're writing he's watching training he's deciding who is best team is likes him as a player and he thinks he's good and I think he is going to be good at Chelsea the thing I'm most alarmed about Russia's Christians post-match comment I'm not just going to throw a fit and give up ever which means that GonNa go full John Harkes go full John Hogs Raj van Friedel yet way twenty when you speak in free lease you're a real it's going to be something reason to expect playing time for him and to me being dropped for the Champions League they sign that Frank Lampard does not appreciate his players talking to the press about their frustration at lack of minute well at Chelsea's guy he's a voice on happens when it's not going well but the team playing really well and he's a team member I must say I find a little distasteful as a Chelsea fan day here also handle I think this is maybe the best goal that he scored all season goal of attend eleven and what I loved about it most of all so confident yeah pretty early in his tenure an American using that word little early Christian you might want to save I think he's GonNa we gotTa do Christian Pulisic English accent alert telling me what I need to do and I think frank handled it unbelievably well dropping no champions in Liam completely out of the team well I I have one crystal palace to the depends derby between the two oldest matches in the league featuring clubs on stealth fine form this season the home side went ahead on fifty four minutes doc Brenton to America but just to troll America really really helped which may be the most Chelsea thing I sort of take face value though I think he said he's GonNa play him in I told him don't throw fit don't give up if I'm on the bench doesn't mean the gaffer doesn't think I'm part of the team means that's what it is right now and I've just got to keep pushing earn my spot I'll tell you using the gaffer so me into my underwear for the whole winter why would I want to watch them West scored one of the best took Debbie oh he rose up from top pool a kiss his head perfect glancing header my youngest kid Finnish ship last name to all of those who say why is he playing makes him out and not Christian Pulisic well it's pretty American Yeah Thompson is yeah very good team and you've got to be a teammate I before anything else especially when your team doing well like crazy to make too much make clear that the heft of Christian politic's transfer fees Sebastian Allah capture tidy t move for his fourth goal of the season but palace fought back Patrick von Anhalt Patrick van on what is going on with him this season level the score from the about nine minutes later and then with time running out it was the AU they told you not to worry about Jordan who won it for Palace Palace up to sixth place may just two points behind and then he loves the game plan where when he got the ball nice assist reversed slipped patio by nice even more impressive than the exquisite pass they crystal palace also it's a big rivalry game east London against south London is Barry hearn always said to us about south London goes savages savages the big rivalry that's a very very big and important win for Crystal Palace Norwich City one Aston Villa five wrote the villains run rampant means forgave Dean Judgment Mora teacher matter means downstairs and folks means Burns First World War documents in front of Prince William Prince George the Duchess of Cambridge wrote just inspirational stuff holdem I wanNA thank you daren Lee for sending me this week's contribution to what does Kooky mean in foreign languages chaired remember Kooky means that'll fought in Hebrew we learned last we can tackle log in the Philippines his name means women's Genitalia he said here's more Hebrew translations of premier league stars Sala on and being that third choice winger and doing quite well third or fourth choice winger depending if you think MSA winging for fourth and he got on and he played Ed Crystal Palace and Aston Villa now just not good against teams who play in red and blue Roy villas just think that biggest away win over norge meanwhile lose the third conceded twenty one goals in eight games the most in the league since that glorious slaying Manchester City they've now lost the burly themselves exposed on the break the Var given late late and I you rather go with not stored in the previous days and West Ham will is team goals I've seen this year I go we'll say when they go that was why Everton not like West Ham and then they wilted which was like Everton they are very the point that were gifted palace has six six Dave Hodgin will of light just afterwards been answered I do for like they use an abacus watch four years older Hudson seventy the two oldest managers in the Premier League what they pay Tho of our before this game I mean Hudson looks like a minute if they won that game on that Friday they slip into the relegation zone in Eighteenth Place Roger you're a good person you're a good person you just the same person. RT's at seventy Antonio Spurs spans listen to me it could always be worse you could support Everton football club Everton that sandwich of the ball was so wasteful Gary K Hill leading James McCarthy Stale now out there at the Hammas naively playing into policies hands emplacement city apparently they've accumulated more points than all but three teams in the premier league this year was a phenomenal game pellegrini sixty six the handshake he's got a hand so you fast let's spend a minute reading too much into the little things what did he fail when he did he did epicurious dismissed Nevada where does he live cup of tea with Mr Von quite grateful to it or and Kissidougou Wall Stealth rivalry West road first off price from Wesley who also missed a penalty and goals from Jack Relish Khanna her hand and Douglas Louise gave the boys from Birmingham the second one of the no idea whatsoever on the failed we scored six goals in eight games leak every piece it feels that we can see I think we've conceded okay and just so many injuries at Norwich still trying to play naively aggressive football it's honestly it's excruciating watching them right now as what you a federal by the basic idea of a computer but by the Chew City it looks Dickensian I'm sharing he's still uses the quilt season watching them they remind me this year of how ever played at their best under David Moyes just a

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ESPN FC 2020 Year in Review Special

ESPN FC

25:49 min | 3 weeks ago

ESPN FC 2020 Year in Review Special

"Welcome in the nfc studio for our year. In review show as the title suggests we will be reviewing the okay. Moreno here with me in the studio through around lots of people as well be. Joining us likes clinton's men. Derek gray said love shocking and stuff and talk and stevie nickel and what a year for stevie nickel because after a thirty year way. He finally saw his beloved liverpool. Go and win. The premier league title ninety nine points in the end was the title match the city By claire eighteen points. They had to wait a long time for it Then closing the gap so just one one english title between manchester united and liverpool steaming. We discussed this a lot and we during the yehuda thought. When you won that title back in nine hundred ninety would be such a weight. Yeah would want to look a lot on on. The truth is is very rarely not responded. They come very close you know. Obviously we had the girard slept when they were cutler offer and the year before the mindset won by points or you know two years of therapy that were close to one the rest of the time just so far away but you know what if you're going to goldwyn style and they absolutely want it and style you talk about breteche football lots and lots of goals you talk about entertainment and you talk about deserving of the title as well so i mean just an incredibly long way yes but when it came enticing football team and remind ourselves where we were going into the star of the new season live report just won. The champions league obviously finished second to manage the in in quietly extraordinary title race and it was a lot of people asking how we're going to respond. They responded as in some style. Yeah i think. I had the eye of the tiger remember. They got ninety seven points. Not whatever finished second getting that many point and so it was a heartbreaker for them the season before to be picked for the title by one point and i think that gave them added steel to all the other qualities. That team has remember yoga. Clark cool is mentality monsters. And i think that that was a big factor as well. They were mentally strong side. Remember this thing didn't lose a day to february. The twenty nine against the other two defeats they had came when they already clinched the title. I mean it's stevie set. They played fantastic. Football right the way through and i think it was very emotional for them that there is set on that doggett right from the word go and they never really ever let up or look like they weren't going to win and they were deserving champions santow they did it real style and that was evident in that performances absolutely. I think it's the credit of urine club and and certainly the players of course that you go from winning champion sleek and you could have just said you know what we've done we've achieved. Whatever is that. We're going to achieve with this group because that is in did the height of what is called football in europe and yet what you saw was of what they did in champions league and that continuation got even better and better as the year went on and that they gave nobody else. Hope there was no chance for everybody else to win this title to be actually compete for this title. This was over by december and some people came in this show and thought you know well maybe lesser is going to give him go now. That was never going to happen. Montessori was never going to happen this was over by december and he was so dominant defense that they were able to keep on that momentum. I continue to play as well as they did you. In club in the players they a whole lot of credit yoga and crawl everything in. Its been good about liverpool over the last few years and it's incredible the way in which and he's done it of since arriving in two thousand and fifteen then netspend is the sake when you take a look at the english side. He came main and it's just a handful of wires that left winning took over back then five years ago. The having title winning medals this year. He's absolutely energized club. Liverpool leaping in a similar kind of city in germany in dortmund a football crazy city on a mission and it looked right from the moment he arrived. I think akiko cooling south. The normal one didn't want to doubters into believers. He's certainly did that. Mean those figures there that is smart business to a netspend only one hundred fourteen million pounds at the fewest of any of the big six teams because they sold coutinho for lots of money that affected that the two big signings that with goalkeeper allison and of course more than that virgil van dyke. That sold all the problems at the back and looked at different team. Wants those class were in it. I just want to remind you the starting eleven for crops. First game in charge mini laying. Code skirts moran marshawn. Lucas flavor lana casino. James milner ariya front Stevie the other behold has been quite extraordinary about how many players that have changed and how successful they have become an cl- very first one is recruitment And the coach. And i said dossier coin to figure out which one's more important because without good. Recruitment club can't on average players anti grape wells but we could recruitment and people can see a little diamond in the rough national liverpool liverpool of seven or eight diamonds in the rough people g genuine album clocks don anderson questions asked of salah when he came. And you've already got georgia who's been liverpool three months and all of a sudden. He's becoming a superstar so that part of it is clock and it's all about a culture liverpool as a culture because good players become great place. I could go on and on about the less. You think of bobby for me. No i mean how good is this guy this guy. He's no one of the first names on the brazil team sheet questions again. We're asked about how and when he came from germany so yogi klopp no question as a real coach. He's a guy that can can turn good players any great ones i said. And he's probably got ten or eleven of them live appeal and so great coach but say the most important thing that culture he has made a real culture but there was a moment though that liverpool fans concern that because of the pandemic. This season may not finished. Fortunately it did and of course a lot of us. During the lockdown find ways to keep ourselves amused in particular with the anthem wondering well football commentators. Do when there is no football to commentate on. Well you just have to be inventive and devise your own game to commentate on something like this may be his dock after the right hand side copy defenders there are around. Oh my goodness. He's scored. he's his own. Fantasy will try to stay sane. Everybody i obviously haven't what do you mean it's been ruled out by va. I've seen that so many times. I can't help but smile. Every occasion is almost a million views over on social media. And still the vol. Komen gets me everytime i forget that you say i'm deadly from that range by the way to lose it from two yards with an open goal. Read if you want to sites to get that right. I am amazed by the reaction to it was just a tiny what depresses me. It seems so long ago we did that back in the spring and here we are still with the same problems. Unfortunately we were overly when football came back it was the bundesliga that kick things off in and of course you had to do the commentary from home. Which you you this kind of an insight into how you did it. How difficult was that stood with extremely difficult because the first game we did or i did was often heim against pets elaine. That's me sitting in my office. I had no crowd affects. Just those pictures which were coming and going through the roots or on your computer and i mean date arrived with a lot of stuff. Defending my office looked a bit like the flight. Deck of a boeing seven. Four seven. something like that. The funny story was my colleague cold depths. Us doing another pundits league games that day he was live on the bruce dortmund game and there was knocking on the window outside saying i'm trying to deliver the groceries. Can you open the front dole. Go a great job and thank you very much. Thank you to stevie as well just to remind plenty of content over on our youtube channel. Bichon to go over. That unsubscribe much as we can salute liverpool's achievements in twenty twenty. I think it is fair to argue. That by munich were the best team in the world. This year and extrordinary achievement enhancer flex on the year and the trophies welcomed sid. Low your clinton and derek very much that defining moment wasn't it was going all the way in the champions league and winning it in the manner in which they did dominating each and every opposition. They faced jurgen. They were a bit special this year. Weren't they really. Think that by munich. This year in twenty twenty was extremely special was Something just just me have big difference to most of the teams around the world. They were able in this crazy year. Covid two twenty twenty to really zoom into focus and to get one job done after another. i mean obviously. The biggest job is to winning the champions league And they've done that in a very very Impressive manner than obviously winning a german title again the german cop in supercop and all these trophies in one years says something very very exceptional and it speaks for this club. It speaks for the culture of By a munich that was built over the last almost Fifty years if you look at that club you know it was Coming through with the famous france. Bacon balloon is paul. Breitner scott miller's in the seventies eighties and then Over the decades it just always remained on top in germany But the way they kind of perform this year was just Was very outstanding out and special. And i think there should be very proud of themselves. How much credit should he get yoga for the success of this site. Get all the credit. What he achieved there is just very. Yeah i mean unique in a certain way but but he knows the culture monopoly played for by a munich as a player while ago and he knows the culture within that club. How driven is our ambitious. They are with the c o collins ruminate former president. Obviously only hearner's all these big are still around in munich and they drive this in my and and so i knew exactly what to do how to kind of pull pull the trigger and so now elements but i totally agree. That one one key element was thomas miller. I think thomas miller just kind of rose again to the top of his game and Connected all the dots on the field. Then you have the best strike in the world right now with robot limonov ski and things fell into place and this is It's a cultural element that really is developed over so many years but what hansie flick achieve this year is just insane. You might think. What are they doing it. They get lost but of course very much at the other end of the spectrum and we'll kind of define twenty nine hundred. Selena was humiliation that eight to defeat against buy-in say which was which was one of these. You have to check twice the school right. Yeah absolutely and i think in truth when we came into that game i think most people probably balsam weren't strong enough to win in. Most people believe that by munich would knock them out but the size of the defeats in the comprehensiveness of it the way that bosnian collapses the game went on. Because you kind of forget in the first twenty minutes or so we actually at the monte game there might be a possibility of this bigger proper competition and it just wasn't and i think to a point that is even a slight sense in custody. The maybe it was good for boston to being so heavily because it would. It prevented them from being able to hide behind the belief that how is not so bad that this just minor changes that needs to be done the realization that had actually been building over the previous couple of years. Of course the the heavy defeat in bro heavy defeats anfield as well. That feeling building. This was the confirmation if you lied that something very drastic had to change or causes. We've seen since. Then there's a difference between the intention to change things in a very radical white and actually being able to yoga and it could have been more than eight for for by and they were quite simply sensational in this game and this is when when you see if really kind of the bigger puzzle of a club of a team where things that match and By munich is is what they did over the decades was. They always just kind of changed every season. One or two a maximum. Three pieces of the puzzle of their starting eleven. What you see other teams is talk about barcelona you know. They had to change many other pieces of the puzzle over the last three or four years. You know javi left in yesterday laughed. You know y'all anymore so big big a players that really kind of where the trademark of this barcelona team on that dare anymore and the team is still in transition and then things that can happen. You know you can get a lesson then from a team that is really just in sync right now in. Munich isn't seeing an entire year. Twenty twenty you know. They just clicking they're just Enjoying themselves and and prove to the world that they are rightfully kind of the number one team in the world. At the moment there was an a perfect performance. Wasn't it really was. We saw them gathering. See with each passing much. I think there was a feeling that maybe there were vulnerable. Defensively teams thought that because of the much talked about bion highline but they didn't let that bother them. They don't let the bulk of the big play to their strengths. And they always have this attitude that yeah if he wants to score a couple of goals against us fine. We'll score more than he will. You know i think it really is a tribute to hansie flake as you're gonna sad You know he's somebody who has vast experience you know maybe not as ahead head coach but in other capacities and playing for buying. He understands that meter sent me a spirit. We are who we are and he was definitely the right mind coming in at the right time but i mean byron quite simply the best team in europe and worthy winners of the champions league as well as what they did domestically that then very much a low in twenty twenty hours a loner got lower though. Didn't massey declared that. He wanted to leave the club. Saying i remember the conversation that we had on the day when it was confirmed in fats. This was real. We were in disbelief. Subsidy right i think we all knew that they were very significant problems. We knew that messy was in a position where he was contemplating. What do with the future. But i think we all thought that when it came to it he wouldn't take this step. And i think we all thought that when he came to the maybe it would help. Leverage changes at the club would be a way of forcing the hand of the cloud because we knew that he wasn't impressed with the squad they want changes made and we didn't think it would reach quite this point now. Obviously with hindsight you look at anything. Well that was good and that was a clue and action told us this was happening and and as we knew the a lot of those elements are in place but we just didn't think it would reach that point and then of course the other thing as the having reached that point. We didn't think there was any way back. And somehow found a white by by basically closing the door locking in saying you can't go and it was just extraordinary to then see messy announced that he was staying but announce it in a way that had no joy wants wherever no sense of commitment whatever he was absolutely blunt and to the point. In saying i'm staying because they won't let me leave. Thank you very much. Gentlemen for leno messy setting records this year. Of course the most goals for a single club eclipse the record held by panik six hundred and forty four goals for barcelona wreck. Surely that will never be beat. New twenty was of course a men's this year for the black lives matter movement and on the page we saw players around the world showing their support to raise awareness of race relations. Shacking up as with us. Now check out. How would you say the game dealt with the movement over the year in a way that i could only hope and maybe didn't expect didn't expect them in terms of the unity of the action. How fired spread and the universal support. Not just from players who had been advocating around race relations. For as long as i can remember but in particular the league's anyway that they responded remember western mckinney was the first to speak up and speak code in protests officer the george floyd incident and abundance legally refuse to take action on him and those are those who follow suit then the premier league allow players to take knee before before kickoff in windy black lives matter purchase on the arms thought. That did a lot not just in terms of raising awareness initiating of the uncomfortable conversations that have been needed but showing that the game as an example to who we are as people in driving. Who can't be in. Tim's of a lot of that change that we play the recording for for quite some time twenty-five years shacking. You've been vote. Show racism the red card. When history tell us that they share it could be a defining one has been in terms of shoot recently read college own campaign in tim's of own a win south fundraising the wig that we've done the partnerships that we've made and hope now is that we can take the momentum for want of a better food and sadly given the circumstances that gave us the momentum but how fashion it into real meaningful longstanding change and i think we have the ingredients there because of the pandemic can people taking taking notice of a lot of these issues that many of us in the black community have been complaining about. Its no right there in front of them on their doorsteps and they cannot avoid it. And then you've seen how. The public have responded whether it was the all lives matter. A banner flown over over the game. And how bend me responded all more. Recently the millwall fans boeing players. Who took a knee and they response of of the majority of the millwall fans and then next game. I'd in how liverpool and their messages on about race relations on equality and may be contrasted to what we've seen a few years ago. What given what we show playoff between luis suarez and patrice ever i think the movement has been unified and those grievances finally recognized added to that you have players like regime stooling like marcus rochford. Who continue to do the work on the ground. An articulated some of these issues on those challenges in a way that i can only applaud as always thank you very much just remind. Espn and see with you. Right through the holidays Be sure to join us. Twenty twenty of course all the passing of one of the greatest of all time. Outpouring was quite extraordinary. Diego maradonna died at the age. Sixty summarized by some of the front pages of the newspapers here. God is dead. Meanwhile mundo deputy vo addie oscar sport. Diego lives meanwhile. La going thousand nine hundred sixty two infinity in this quite striking. Wasn't this front page address diego yoga and of course you went. You played against him many times including the nineteen ninety world cup final. How good wasi be. I had the pleasure to play against him many times reading some games losing some games but he was simply my no. I don't have a genius. He was Just on a level on his own over the stretch for almost fifteen to eighteen years in his career. He kind of Could see through. People could pass through people. He's called ungraded. Incredible goals goals that. You cannot really describe Andy was a very likable person off the field. So the the loss of gigamon madonna is is was a hit and he was an an idol for an entire nation argentina. Obviously over so many years for the city of napoli in southern italy he means the world so very very special person said the emotional outpouring that we saw from on around the world was really striking. Wasn't it yeah. And i think there's a whole load of reasons for that. Officers yogurts being talking about his significance for argentina. In italy the fact that he played in spain. But but more is nate's it's a whole generation of fans and obviously in this i include myself the grew up. The discovery of the eighty. Six world cup reaches a fun in one thousand nine hundred ninety that he seems to be able to do on his own. And i say that. With the greatest respect the rest of the argentinian national team. Which of course was very talented side. Move the grace. Respect to everyone in the nappy team. But he was in that sense. I guess a cartoonish footballer was almost like a carbon comic strip and then of course you have the iconography if the of everything represented off the pitch for both good and bad and i think that that means that on a cultural level quite beyond the football in quality i don't think there has ever been footballer with the with the same level of impacts and i suspect never will be either tear of course watching one of the great football poets and the player who represents his generation as said has said very special because was from scotland International goal was handed park in nineteen. Seventy nine was think to the fall of maradonna in ninety two red card against brazil on the rise of maradona in nineteen eighty. Six said. yeah. We can talk about the hand of god but we should also talk about all the amazing things he did in that world cup of course culminating with his actions of the final setting up border giaga for the weather against west germany Simply a player the like of whom we will probably not see again me thinking about. Madonna takes me happy places. Happy memories when. I was a kid watching this guy play and in fact that we were talking off camera by the end of the final nine hundred ninety world cup. A was my birthday. July eighth nineteen ninety and we were having a birthday party and we were all sort of taking part in germany our dina motto. No you're not alone. And that's the memory that i half of the matter is that you wanted to be him. Never mind what happened on the field and those memories thoughts it takes me again to a happy place to be with my parents so we with my family and my brother to pretend to be alone and be the player that i wanted to be an amazing plan amazing talent and he was sorely missed. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. All the guys who've been on that day just on espn afc with you. Right through the holiday period. He's obviously busy in the primarily.

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Men in Blazers 11/06/20: WGFOP: The Bald

Men In Blazers

20:02 min | 2 months ago

Men in Blazers 11/06/20: WGFOP: The Bald

"This is rebecca. Lowe will rebecca if you listen to sub optimal radio and you on this thing to men in blazers on the nbc sports network. It's friday hits roach. Just the boy. Who is in steve canakkale. What engine house. He's american james milner. The election is still undecided. As i take the past sixty hours sixty tape. Sixty three hours of fell on the say. I can always say. Let the longest penalty shootout oval. Tyne expecting a mood to turn to this in a mini stoppage telling voids. I'm not gonna lie. It's been a mentally physically grueling week for all of us no matter what side of the political spectrum. You're wrong it's really been one. That makes me crave the return of football sweet premier league football more than not just the primarily in germany with blessed this weekend with classic second-place development face up to defending champion. Really attornal defending champion pm munich saturday. Twelve thirty spam plus. It's a game. I love this. Which could pitch american against american for the first time in this fixture if gio raina and chris richards bay still a reminder that our american football is sick joyously grinding away in europe yet tyler adams your west and mckinney's yet crist impresses some uses. They'll the greatest soft power. Icons elation has out there in the world right now. Good-looking delivery in the head in samya. Ass- makes the breakthrough for manchester city. You don't give some is amount of room some us. You didn't have to do to light that did you some us. Let's rocket sting mia producer. Joe y'alls thing is wgn. J p the big bold by steve thrown in newman. Oklahoma and this is wgn p. the ball. Show where you phone in your questions at six. Four six four five zero nine four seventy and we've had so many beautiful questions so funny warm so intelligent. I'm still going to answer them. By fumbling away through ill informed crap but coolest now six four six four five zero nine four seven to know. This show is made possible by draft kings thing. That's joan king's brother. Only the rated draftking sportsbook cap use code m. i. b. when you sign up for a limited time we'll new users can get a sign up. Bonus two thousand dollars you buy bourdeaux to with that. You send to code. Moab when you sign up only a draft king sportsbook loyal voice must be twenty one year old jay. I only buddhist comprised i center. I bet much egypt to five dollars. Burnish cost twenty times restrictions. Apply see. Dr king's comes sports for details gambling. Problem community in indiana one. Eight hundred eight. Okay yeah question. One eras because we m calling from new york city liverpool supporter. But i have not seen a lot of games this year so far and it's mainly because my school semester has been kind stressful innocence as very compressed compared to last year. Because they're trying to get it all done before thanksgiving so. I guess my question is knowing that that made me that. I still make me a bad fan for missing games. Do have a pass thanked. Roger william you question. Te'o case probably all scheme exactly the same thing. He missing games and he loved to pass. Let me tell you. William what you've missed and you can be the judge look. Liverpool are not the level of this time law season deliver full of blew the doors off all comers with attack per rang and the defensive suddenly impregnable. They are actually quite the opposite. New virgil a film about line. There for the taking but somehow still rolling out the wins win afterward known the sense. I'm football the first half of last season but to me fat make sarah achievements in the first seven games even more impressive because they had every excuse to lose their focus that every excuse to lose motivation but instead that digging deep and filling one raw centre-back after another finding big goals when they need them from unexpected places. Let's say i don't know anyone that's new. Signing dear shota just become unstoppable goal machine. he's a reminder. The liverpool recruit better smarter more seamlessly and they face up to manchester city. This weekend a clash which always fail so size make if it's titled defining it's been funny both manages this week an incredible pain to say no. That's not true. The season nothing to see here partially because well to bunker season talked about how there are so many possible title winners and then this campaign. He believes wound. Need one hundred point tally to win it. All new club said the game coming to early in the season but in truth both teams are vulnerable. Everyone is beatable this season. But william this is a game you should miss impact. Desperate to show cells control every team. The does not burn them out and klopp trying to work out if he goes with the hot hand of jota of stick to the perfect teeth and less ago. Return of the one who brought him. They're crazy bobby for me. That decision and how pep sets up his tactics for reliever man. Because when joe plays he plays on the flight moose saleh shifts to a more central role that those decisions will define the outcome to be honest. It's a kind of game. I live for when the clock called the make. Difficult matt chapman football. It's a very difficult game. Hopefully for both teams because both teams will perform on high level. And so that's it. We are in the season. Many things are different this year. Nothing compared with last year. Nothing is going to compare with the before. So it's i was at everything is different and we have to make sure that we get through very intense periods lineup fetus players and played the best football. We can and in this case it is against man city which is obviously more of the most difficult games to play in the world. Question to you please. Hiraoka this is jim from the Tiny town of greenfield ohio. And i'm a lifelong manchester united coming up against everton this weekend. seems obvious that maybe coaching for his job. A little bit. And i'm just trying to come to grasp a little bit you know. I've watched him since the nineties. And you have in the team that i love driven into the ground by american owners. And i'm just kinda curious as to how across as an american just very frustrating and i kinda get why. They're frustrated over the palm so any advice would be appreciated. Thanks for listening. And the red devils. Thanks bye jim. I love tony talented to everyone. In every town across all nation ole gunnar soul. Shaw pains me to watch him suffer like this because he is really really lovely blake but oh my god. His united to become only kafka asking surreal reality. Can you believe it was only three games ago. The united were being. Hailed after smashing leipzig. Five nail we're ranking all about by midfield diamond but as has been the reality of the know today right. It's always darkest just after the door. Great crap always by humiliating slapstick letting morton skurdal and denver ball return to global stardom briefly after champions league defeat tabassum shahir who is waiting for them this weekend. Seven thirty saturday morning. Only the bus share of the premier league everton. And i gotta tell you feeling bad up i would say i have no doubt united. We'll destroy colo enchiladas. He's team raise hope again. Them's the rules. They are really heated. Lake costal under vanja in the final. Yes perpetually turning corners only to realize we're just suddenly walking round the block over and over treading water and only survives because oh well the play like came at would he runs a club and is a commercial genius but they football expert. He loves him because well you know he's had been a managerial revolving door and it all stems from the american owners. The glazer says no knowing full. They run the club light. Any american sports franchise does with both always on the bottom line. And you see how someone like john henry. You look at fenway. Sports group how they waded into english football with liverpool made so many mistakes but they learn from those mistakes. They're learning curve. The glazes have never hatay not one lesson learned from friends point of view. You question really what should offend. A is the worst because it does make you start to wonder as the players change revolving door the managers change revolving door the shirts become evermore manic in zebra roy twice just help. The dread question for any sports fan walks cheering for again. And let's say stay. The course. Because i do believe. The ole death rattle israel. We are nearing the end. Pochettino booby installed shortly and poach magnificent. Builder of club coaches winning club coaches. And that's what the team have cried out for. Since sara alex deported however is inevitably fan even though hamas beautiful testicles have hailed my present work. He'll be back ritual. Listen i'll tell this talk won't be and without his pace. I cannot see beyond the classic case of united pulling out win. Were no way to get one. Them's the rules next question. Roj holding bryant from dallas texas massive liverpool fan. You never walk alone. Always remember that raj. I wanted to ask you for me right now. it's election. I already voted. And i'm proud to do that. But i wanted to ask. Who win the premier league would make the best president of the united states. would it be christian pulisic. What about bruno pinellas. What about my favorite jergen klopp. I actually think. I know who you vote for mr enchilada. Give me your thoughts. I love to know courage. La texas la old. I love you question so much about. Football is leadership. You look at again. You look at city and when games have gone against the season both clubs of pay to lack strongly on the failed responsibility or authority accountability. But there are so many great human wonders in football right now from ralph hasenhuttl if southampton win this afternoon against new newcastle. They talk yes so them to would briefly go. Top and ralph. Redemption is incredibly impressive while at the same time fairly terrifying build and maybe some token this suv a rope hassle huddle would be a little too autocratic for my taste you can go mawkish rush. Ford the football another humanoid meyer graham potter of brighton. Who feels very much that your cinder auden of the premier league empathetic intelligent running tiny world with true class dignity beauty but for me too obvious choices. Jurgen klopp of a man who understands the human condition in a truly rich and beautiful way and the sense of flow of life. The journey what's important. What's not sandwich wisdom urn for and need any shown time and time again on the massive topics in the massive movements. That man is a leader that mine could president and another is some use. I do believe by the way the will politically needs more women leaders and if i had to choose anyone right now be some. Us via yes. How sam works on a game on the field with so much tenacity. She's a workout winner. She's one and wfl tell he's left a title yet. She wants to be better. She focusing on our weaknesses. She wants to improve. And i admire even more. Because i admire that the constant hunger to improve and focus on your weaknesses rather than just. Celebrate your strength. But i'd my the activists sums become. She is someone who is asking yourself the hard questions. Committing ourselves to issues and action in a way that really. It's rush for desk and she is genuinely my hair rick. But i'm gonna go with that. I had the honor of interviewing recently. And i'm still thinking about almost every word that he told me it's carlo ancelotti. We have a special that we are working on. It comes out in november and well. He blew me away partially. Because i like the way he says. The woods roach and america hollow roj law america. But wait it gets even better. I asked mr colleague. How would you create change. How'd you transform club. And he's four-ball simple players not just players and understanding that that is the secret to transformation when you want to build a relationship with the other you cannot fake. Have to be yourself and you have to show. What is your character. And so for this reason to be myself in relationship with all the people beyond i have to manage people not play. This is the most important part because play. Add is what you do. People is they dented. You might be you have to manage the entity not the behavior. In this moment. I realized i realized color the secret of life. We are all humans we all want love and be loved we all have fairs hopes dreams wounds wonders and if we all follow college lead and see that think about that act upon that well the world would be filled with much more love which is what we all need right. Now i'd have him will deliver more wins and i'm not sure which one of those two is more important. You decide loss question. Plays iraj my husband and i are from richmond. Virginia where we support the splendid richmond. Takers will for myself and chelsea. I'm open for debate. These past few days have demonstrated. Just how dramatic or close contacts can be the waiting. The watching the little moments that can make or break array. And i can't help but feel like it's watching the final moments of football match. My question is this. Is it better to the level of the game to enjoy a three point. New taylor win. You know to be able to kick your feet up and breathe a little or to sweat through the nail biting one one ninety s where every passing touchdowns and everything's on the line congrats on voting in your first presidential election and welcome to the beautiful terror that is the american democratic process which oh caitlyn recognize your voice. Hell i richmond town. J. w produces still has nightmares about in college. His virginia tech team played richmond kickers in a spring friendly he got taught seven times down the same flank. It was a long bus ride. Habeeb look caitlyn. That are twenty to say this smarter people who can talk about the political cultural societal divisions that have been exposed this week but spent the day since tuesday thinking about so many things i realize. We've long taken for grown to the united states this week. It's been a reminder to me the nothing is forever everything takes were and i say that as a gen who was privileged on choose to cast a vote for the first time ever as an american citizen and a presidential race it was it was an overwhelmingly meaningful experience. We'll have dreamed of. Since i was a kid growing up in liverpool a stars and stripes painted on one of my bedroom walls and i tried to do that with love with take with a sense of optimism and belief that the good i do believe is most people would win out and i don't take the act of voting for granted and i'm not looking for a way to find really inspired by some years. How can i upon that. How can i invest energy in reinforcing the democratic system in a nonpartisan way so that everyone can vote safely passionately. Meaningfully did on tuesday. That's a lesson we take from this week. I'm gonna leave you as we take a deep breath we're going to neighbor result starting to fill a kind of relief. A lost experience when big salmon dice was five by everton. Gonna leave you with some lines from a poem that of talked about before this year. One which says my so this morning. More than ever langston hughes latin america be america again and the verse. The moves make is this. Let america be the dream. The dream is dreamed. Let it be that. Great strong land of love when kings connive no tyrant scheme that any man be crushed by one above. It never was america to me. Let my land a land where liberty is crowned with no false patriotic wreath. But opportunity is real in. Life is free equality. Is the air we breathe. That's langston hughes. This is roge- saying i love you. America courage courage courage.

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7 - Liverpool & Man City Roll | Concerns in North London & Old Trafford

The 2 Robbies

42:59 min | 1 year ago

7 - Liverpool & Man City Roll | Concerns in North London & Old Trafford

"Hello and welcome to the podcast with me. Robbie must tell and him royal l. going over much week three in the permanent now as we go through the games this we came. We will discuss some really controversial if a._r. Decisions but robbie my friend you're weekend off from the studio you've been doing if you've watched all the games team games listening to you and cow martino disagreeing with most things you say hey the usual doing lady lo hosting things not another interesting week two week three robin and it doesn't seem it seems seems to me it it. It's a season where things have been a little bit different. Teams of control games haven't quite had the control one or not with the other teams have then you only liverpool at this moment. <hes> you know perfect at this stage from three games. We know each very really we know there's still plenty of football to go but as ever closer stories yeah i think we'll get to this individual stories and stuff but i feel is a weekend. I'm sure appreciate for strikers strike that goes. I'm thinking of wisely and tell abraham. We'll get you know alaso so that's kind of the theme of the weekend but let's start with the biggest game raw but of course liverpool taking on arsenal first of all before we get into the the game too much. Were you okay with the lineup broadband. We've talked about lacquers at before i'm resumes very adamant or unsure about playing him with a the young embiid games s thinking but every time there's a really big game is off on the bench lineup. What do you think of the line of rational okay four four two diamond with pepe of inspired by underneath them <hes>. Here's my take robbie mustoe and you know a big. Emily fund deals in the way that he plays and i enjoyed what he does. Well i think luck is that has to be an arsenal start best or in eleven rob now. Oh he's a couple of things. I showed him in the summer and we show them last year actually them in this morning now. Lay obama yongin locke's that abro months. They're not quite the to robbie's l._b._j. They haven't got a little bit. We've got a bro months going on those two trained together. They mess about together. They've warm together. They piggy blockage the two players who enjoy each other's company when they play well together rob. I think also ah team now. You go to find space for pepe and sibelius. Maybe you've got to find on the balanced but in my view you play your best players in the big east games because they can score goals and he's a contrast liverpool football club have money f- amino and solar you can quote doesn't say monet's. I love football. If somebody's only add maybe two weeks i'm going to put i'm going to arrest him. He plays he's best plays. You enjoy plankton continue winning different dic- decided why why is he defy executives different. Tell me like liverpool football club lab with those three players of gotten amazing midfield engine room repeal to cover the to make the balance up solid doesn't come back at the times three now of course one money doesn't want to but they've got the like henderson and likes if they got like james milner plays that can do that covering. I concur cover the field of play so those three players can focus on the talking part and they've got balanced off with soldiers. Artisans soldiers plenty of boston. They got soldiers as well role live. Ask themselves enough. Soldiers well then then play then the front three that you play rob bob give liverpool so many problems on the from for liverpool's front three challenge any butlining in in austin awesome francie with rockets that opening and whether you're pepe into bile i'm telling you now is is enough to finish take a look. You got tarare. Who what have we play. He doesn't wanna play jacka. You getting doozy. You've steve and again. I say that the energy the legs the mileage midfield not there. It's just what you do at the moment is you. You're not playing you best to tap men glenn so you don't play that you play in midfield that still not great because he doesn't dominate games console games well enough and you lose big much that record rub against the big six teams is i think he's twenty three games. Now await them. They've not result so they go away. Rely on those those soldiers sometimes they need awesome. Awesome didn't particularly in the first half hour of the game. If you've got strike on the of luck as you can bring you got fifteen to twenty goals in him. That might be the different. Let's move on rob right to the second half with the maja. Why we played the diamond and gave liverpool some space in the outside areas they did against counterattacks off snowing couldn't make the most of them why emory white to the eight th minute while i think they'll one or two nil down. Yeah was tara. Tara came understanding enough to do. I've got my note the same thing eighty minutes we took oh contaminated before we get to three on the guys who can score goals in change around and this is where we say rob in this why you have to be careful hassle of being too critical all. We've not seen something that's happening in trade. You know we're not seeing things that go into non focus sometimes. They've all things little things in detail. That manifest see south is reasons. Why things don't on the pitch for i'm talking from what i see with. My experience with my is my feeling having been around the club a little bit and seen gene. I'm saying that the money to get any wrong. I don't disagree with a bombing zet. I just don't know <hes> whether you can have pepper and sabinas as a four really creative players on other so bias little different and it work a little bit but this is this the same issues or face last year rob interchanges system. He talks about balancing are they won't factor with the balance. I don't now the one with the quality of attacking players but not necessarily the thing that's going to hold on. Let's talk about a guy who did come in rob. W louise louise's exactly wtvn dovid do we just have to put up with different shit saying well. It's really difficult because i think we both agree that given the back for the central defenders for arsenal with moustapha and holding injure that this was a good move other people said i don't know. Do you want me in football club. When he can make errors he can switch off. I mean the defending the shirt poll on sarah for the penalty for me is is incredible and then another mistake were mosala embarrassment on the outside so i just quickly. Would you spend the seventy odd million dollars or i take a million dollars on pepper when defensively if everybody thought more money should have been spent on defending balancing defending players or defensive midfield plays <hes> <hes> so often the law reinforced what they were last season and in some respects and it's going to take a little bit time and you said the balance to to get things right just very quickly and i think we have to do is just about liverpool and i'm second hoffler goals come. They have off their balance right by the way i look at them. No no been defensively been available sloppy once or twice and obviously. I'm kept a clean sheet. They're they're press their energy that balance that they're build of play. They wanted to stand enough system. Liverpool football club right now is in is in a really good place to push on in this league whether they win or not but just when you see them. There's a lot of things in place at liverpool where you see. Also anything still work to do little. I've got a great place now to go and pull sean and really go to premier league. If you try and stop liverpool going through the middle class no did by four very tight then when those really hurt you refuse me league sadler season thus very difficult so we can get about two wings and then and of course that's so great coming through the middle of dropping off and seller coming inside a mani they they can win games with counterattacking with the pace of of the front three. I mean you you talk about complete team and you talk about a team for me. That's radio in the tile this options in midfield. I thought they were excellent and most salary just as i mean we've talked about the front plaza liverpool just another angle on it how fit and sharp and quick and durable a never injured and just amazingly mason consistent of saudi-omani mosala not only they wo- class attacking talents yet every single game they seem to bring enthusiasm and pace and the camera pans into either. These two plays money and seller solid look tired. They don't look tired. That's one of them. Breathing heavy the they've got those attacking inabilities and incredible engines with a manager from the front as well. They stopped people coming out absolutely and thought all of it. I think bob is the aren't think the plays with liverpool football club think they're onto something a little bit special and i think that gives you lift that gives you drive that gives you energy it. It pushes you on one you. Will you know if things all go mall. You feel a bit tired everyone in this team and by the way if you don't pull you in this team could find yourself out this crooked cricket before we move onto the next game rob know that you the you went from one city to in the title yeah anything in live pause kind of recent form where or awed you always think there's going to be a tight koi. Is that something that you couldn't reproduce what they did last year no nothing to do with liverpool. It's relentless unless way the run that is sitting on the end of the season just liverpool at the moment to have got the little gap because if the if the one winning city jewel liverpool we're going to have to have a big gap rub because we just know what's what montecito can-do in ronin male just go unbeaten unbeaten on being win after win after win and drag you bucket could've could have been what was it nearly. The chance to ten points clear was last season. They might need something near double figures again gap to to make sure this summit on if they're going to do it okay. Let's take another a little break. When you think about saving for retirement or any of the financial goal you might feel the stress levels rising. It can be frustrating trying to figure out how do i get start saving for the future or if i have studied. How do i stay on chuck. Don't go it alone. Make the right play by point in with a team of expert third. American century investments were to deliver results to help save for college retirement or any of them beijing you have you'll find that you do not business. This is usual. Make it personal. American century keeps their head in the game that is on the ball. I'm for sixty years. That commitment to performance has not wavered. You investments deserve nothing less. Check them out at american century dot com the other clubs that want to get to the city liverpool robert still on united crystal palace so they drew a wolves last weekend. They lose at all traffic to crystal palace to one. I mean what a game of football you start us off on this swim. Well i suppose in honestly you're getting criticized because they lost at home against the palestinians were poor against sheffield united. I read an interesting game. It said you know two penalties for manchester united one wolves and one at crystal palace probably changes again <hes> we probably be talking about <hes> a united team with nine points if those counties go into the penalties become an issue and obviously a big talking point with republican rostered and who is taking in only going to sell shot cohen and terms of football rob my slight concern is when teams palyszko to old trafford. Maybe play bit deeper and he's he's not the space to go in behind. Does this team have the craft to break the these kinds of all day with the craft with the on sunday we she combination play flight from liverpool. We see rotations and it's much to say you need the red zones how images breaking down difficult teams when on days when it might not be quite going as as you would like yeah. I think it's absolutely right under harare wasn't the most creative player in the world but a player that left the football club exists in midfield it filled with trusted by only gonna socia- there was money available very few players came in and this isn't quickly to bash the manager or the team because it it didn't feel lost. A palace home which is of course is bad and i agree with the creativity show midfield yet on another day. I mean they would have won this. They they got the penalty. The decision the we'll get to real quick bought a massive influence in terms of the sims of a red card <hes> for martin kelly on the pool but for mercy our so so. Let's talk about that rob now. We just want to give this kind of background with fully fully into this season. We trust the officials in england to get this done better than the other country to this point the is done. Its job really really well. You can you know about the high bar to change the referee's decision on the field of play. The marcy al getting pulled back back by martin kelly disappoints me to a level the oil that good initial work. I'm like i just don't believe i don't don't believe that they are given the referees angle and i do of course you don't know what the referee set of a._i. Myself a good look at this guys i there was. It's a little bit contact but i just don't think there's enough for penalty and i said you know what i'm gonna. Go with you but the angles that we get from the twenty two plus cameras and we saw sore from kelley leaner pulling pushing back and put him off to shoot that is a foul and that's not if that's not turned over tell you what i don't know what is going to get turned over which goes back to what is the point of having it and again i get i like the fact is going to be a high bar. This is the the highest bar i could ever imagine tommy tommy something different absolutely with if our producers got there because i wanna i wanna one minute. Roby robie rent a lot. We we know about the high ball and knots about refereeing decisions if clearly obvious avenue than he's gonna go oh i like the pins pool of what they've said rob if the ball so high that each almost out of reach and to me our reach to me out of torchy's not helping referee career in the game the kelly moore c._o. Is a penalty kick. The referee should see and voice should be able to pick that up a make that decision asian in chains decision so we get the correct outcome now evolves not doing it not doing students favors to the game and the people people have got to be big enough. I'm brave enough rob tivo to overturn those decisions so we still game night decision and people's confidence. He didn't stays with via. Y'all because what they still has to do is erode. People's is gonna look at it and they're not gonna give it and if we start getting down that route then there are starts becoming becoming very negative after i know we've had the humble issues not in the main v._a. Job finally finally on this rubber. We don't spend the whole talked about this but are those stockley park over protecting the altar rails undermine these kind of thing and we don't want to be coming in saying this wrong. Omega completely broken not too far yeah completely wrong. They've got to be brave. It stockley park and when referee has made a mistake v._a. Ause there to help and assist in say. I didn't see the honda couldn't see from lara was though i didn't see the triple. I didn't see the way you went down. I've been luke chadwick from another angle. Yes penalty cake. Okay penalty-takers my goodness. This has become a little thin now. Nacional sprint it off the ball through cacus rochford. He smashes it really while off. The post another missed penalty kick. Yes first of all to questions is a thing is in the head to the players now and second question who takes an x one does get in their head to plays yeah. I changed. My experience. Tells me plays we've played after he missed one or two will. We're not quite sure they missed the next also confidence girls so i think it is an issue. Who's in that penalty taker. You have to look in your football club. Who who's piece who is a midfielder <unk>. Muktar shelves meant to be in the young striker rush would simply book book comes in these situations rob and this is. I think where you might lead the simonis job now. This is where the money to get hold of this situation and put late to bed picky picky. Take it based on experience what he sees what he knows. Give the guy and get on with. It shouldn't be an issue. It might interest united when in your home from twelve yards now. You've got punch kick. The opposition should be running all way line. It should be a foregone conclusion. One of the the risks taken this summer. Rob was is to sell rumbulaku and it looks like not done yet. Alexis could go as well yeah now. Donnie jane young wing the goal was the centerfold position is between join rush for damasio and really good both positions. I would worry those. Two players haven't got a track record of big numbers and and i want your take on this. I think the personality to be the goal scored a man united. I be consistent. I'm body language and just just personality to star pleasant united. I know they young young potentially. The bills have potentially the well. We don't know rob is can may be that guy. Can they be the pressure guy. Can they be the one you eve lyon. Can they be that god. That's what this season is. Next year or two is going to tell us about. They've now gone on the big money. They've now the number nine now probably in all the things that the munch tonight senate fluids of hot now you deliver me twenty goes and not surveys socials take mason greenwood came on as you know when a days when coal and your can in social and sharing those with that was a quality that the months unitel the position now all these taking a gamble with the younger guys. He hasn't been anyone in now. They've got to deliver just before we go robbie mustoe install and at the other end of the pitch one or two mistakes. It's good show is it. We've seen we probably see more mistakes in his last ten ten or fifteen games in ten years before does that does that come about is there. Any kind of complacency is anything to do with about four. I don't i don't i don't know i just don't know you're right. The last twelve months is not been the same no a lingering on the one hand eh but apparently reports as not been signed yet. Yeah you're right. That's just keep an eye on that one if you ways to see if his full in any way because he's as a woman they've been relying to another lost decade almost but <hes> yeah we'll see i don't want goes much tonight. The prepare for summer road trips before you head out visit irani autoparts simple simple preventative maintenance before you hit the road will ensure a safe journey during the summer months ahead irani auto parts better parts better prices every day things to do that tottenham hotspur uh-huh now fair. We've chat a lot on the podcast were privately on phone conversations as well. Something doesn't quite feel right spurs. We saw the country at the new stadium against aston villa poor start like the newcastle game. They managed to scramble a victory they scramble. The man city got a little bit fortunate with the v._r. Again that would disallow jesus goal another. I would say flat rob a flat before but more importantly robert lacked verve jacked a spark. There's some we've with harry. Kane <music> very few kind of touches on the ball got one or two shots so i if is is i mean it sounds that sounds a little harsh is this it's the beginning of the end of this project with porta -tino or just a bad star and a hiccup. I'd like to think the last <hes> from the survey question posed was getting to the champions league final. The pinnacle with this group is then and there's everything store to go. Oh the other way i think no. I've been a little bit surprised with poaching. I've said before and you know me. I'm the feelings guy now. Some of them felt right. Welcome to beginning season. I don't know i don't know what it was. He didn't get somebody wanted in the summer. Leading things you know the little kind of jokey let's intelligent transfers and this meal the the the ericsson thing. I think doesn't quite feel. I read this week that he says you know. We need to resolve this. You know we'll all support. The chairman and you know i've looked at the three games now. We took new tottenham stage in the for the opener. We saw them last week. Can we show them today. The played well rope for any long if they haven't played well a tool played anything like that football we talked about odell aeolian alien sooner mission some came back today particularly thing you know dell elliott's ericson came on the pitch is trying to pull things you know things different salon salaam warning lobby and it's a little tachibana spurs team now because the good teams that hanging there will always in those champions league spots year after year ear after year kept pulling out can put keeping in performance standards and kept on this is a test of this little this group now and i've called it ah going through a cycle and is this the end of this group recycle collectively always the mortem. That's why i'm not. I'm not onto present you you and if i can take that a little bit further forward the defining part of that statement might be christian erickson now if he leaves the football club does does that mark the end of a cycle. Does that possibly exaggerate exaggerate. The feeling of we kinda got as far as as far as we can get this group. Maybe here both overactive. Maybe maybe settling to the side. Get back into the team but at the moment we've got one more year of christian alex and not that's not helpful for situation. Come the winter come winter break. Go we talk about the teams he could be. You know being out in ramsey. Awesome situation will be more talk about where <hes> he's going then what he's doing in the next six months. Let's we're going to move on to new customer. Minute roud just about this result means to them. I just want to get there was a penalty. Shout tamales cells that kind of lost his footing kind of went down and how he came in my opinion kind of fell him go down and lean across to his left to to to enhance the contact attacked. I was okay with a no cor okay with the less. I was last say so cells knows what what is doing as he goes down and he's doing the accident. I'm going to accidentally wound across k. and make sure the collision and then we're both gonna go down but he's gonna look so clumsy that the referee's not gonna my soul is totally was more de-defended known what he's doing then. How do we make the most of the situation i said. What was the penalty kick. Okay okay so the show was no penalty yes if you'll v._r. Yes with the with the incredibly high bar a youth searching that decision yet because iowa i looked in the south action into rob is falling down pretty much straight straight down own came across came leans across to make sure that falling bodies gonna make contact now i get the right. Arm of the cells is out a little bit but i i just don't think that's certain to change given because maybe because we disagree that's their myself as reason that maybe shouldn't change but i have to say getting the evidence that i saw in confuse a wash the two or three times and i was quite strong that i would have gone penalty kick steve bruce depression newcastle united in some scores that manager five four one on behind the ball good shape jonasson the new strike a fifty million dollars record signing the big and his skill but it's looked a little bit sluggish yeah good day for joel anderson one new strong as we talked about the good day steve bruce disease now just get the fans joe will well. It's new most commonly anything jaw credit steve bruce. I i think he's football experience using the game of still giving good status weeks it's been difficult weaker and things have been thrown him in the club and well don't to the players. Why is first of all could go spurs. Let us busy claim goodbye in different that new stadium to go get it was rough arrest in some ways you know spurs i- majoli l. e. a. possession without creating too many outstanding chances and what it shows me. Robin came landfill. Well don't steve bruce newcastle. You saw what he shows me is. He's in this club if he could just be room these life in this club the funds you go down look at the plays what they commit today it just as bad. Why are we talking in all the time. Every week is saddam in the another by next week don't you it'd be in training nino. Someplace gonna say so man. Why did they just one this football club ryan. Give it a chance while new cuts united. That's an amazing three points for them and yeah. That's going to give him a real boost right now. Okay next game. Mine city went to born with an eddie housemen. Three one was the result anything out with the ordinary here. Rob the the you want to comment on about city about pink guerrero with as little flare up last time with yeah. You know i said lost weight. Let's see if a gladys stalls he does. He gets a coupla goals four hundred goals in his career now many still invaluable able whether these cracks behind the scenes whether he's is going to be the main money in years to come jake lukes like his repair them but it's it's business as usual for city the other thing that that stood out and it was interesting how wilson school really good culture to bring about ball. Davidge silver robbie muster davits over. We just got a treasury. Might we got treasure. You watch how plainly to assist today one a little bit more fortunate. I mean he's he's four and it's muncie appearance today and do you know in an era when when we when we we were finishing off the profile of football profile of midfield plays with different v._r. Is came in the petit came in big muscular six full athletic books box powerhouses and it was like wow wow this game to another level and davidge silva's lock. Throwback is like a little midfield scorer beautiful child. She's got outstanding. Don mean vision can create an make and probe. Keep the ball in the game. The game continually need plays like davidge silver yeah and also yeah sorry to interrupt but yeah pets comments like he said in his presser like i i didn't think was going to be okay and english because he's small larry's not nicole and pap didn't think that he was going to be a success and in the in the silver years ten years now by the way and he's already announced i've done i've done ten years. My last year is going to be with my city. I'm going to go back to spain or whatever in those ten years partly because of what he's brought to it. The game has changed in england has changed for the better more more technical footballers small players more value more important brigand amazed entertainment to the game and you're right. You're right to pick him out it back in the side at a really good game again today going forward rob. There's no issues. We're gonna city but let me change direction. This conversation man city didn't win the champions league and won't win the champions league defending defender they they gave up three great chances for boris to school. One on one came out against better teams. They take those chances so the champions league the best sides they give us -tunities vase store and there's a real livable macos. Go spurs found a way to do it. So you give good sides opportunities rob you concede goals and in a two legged game of champions league tie go. They're gonna do enough to to get the points that listen we love we love the teams and the bidding credible but in champion commission the the they're expensive style does give up opportunities to all teams by the way all teams. We saw it last last season with palace winning and they lost four and again here. They got the results and greg on. Do you know what i mean. Rob i also this park. I should really go point about champions league and so the premise liverpool when they're on the way you said often got cianci's and if you go people good enough to take it can hurt so paps the outstanding managing and we'll football does he have to think of possibly different system a different way of play when he's playing those high end won't team before rob cook stick. One of those always been the same in what he could he could he put food on dino and lottery now to influence those two in almost go. I'm going to protect and they'll only have one float of midfield field in that. I've got the all i'm saying is if taps a guy we think is and he must see. You'll be looking at tape. He'll be okay we we won but we go away without that if they're we're gonna go along in a champions league. That's what they really want to begging to go again for tiles and not make mistakes. Maybe he still have a look at some games in just slightly tink things yeah. Maybe just another was in it. Rob this stamp on the floor. Yeah okay so i'll remind people on the field was no that's that's fine of course benefits of the slow motions and what we could see from the replays. There was a stamp on the foot of member. It was not going yeah you know it gets the ball first and just reaches a head and the survey showed a step on the foot in the studio here like yeah okay okay. I know there's a high bar. He goes boy it and affects silver ruining forward again. Nope no penalty now but now it's not as bad but if that situation i'm trying to create situation. If the recipes made no decision on up to this point he saw that we see in studio nato obviously seem things v._r. And he hasn't made a cool. I think he would say penalty. Not i think he's only not been because he's not getting the penalty and veils buckingham things so yeah so we don't give well. I just think that's that should not be the case if we see and we believe don't be afraid to change the decision some thin. I really hope that they reconsider sit. There isn't much point by the way in using this on these of course let's let's give ourselves a chance and by people into what would you unless the humans they make mistakes block old and we came back to fine yeah. Oh i must move on to a happier story. I thought it was a really big saturday for frank lampard big ellen really big day robinson yeah team so he made some big kohl's he brought some abraham back in into the side. Yeah i need you to win. Win the striker tommy braham needed the goes brightness freshness about robin morgan apologize for this but i'm telling everybody listening right now right. This is going to be the situation every week. There's going to be one team out of your also tonight in chelsea this going to look really good positive this great and then in the same week you. You know maybe next week chelsea. We'll we'll be poor. I'm telling you right now. It's going to be inconsistencies thoughts so from chelsea and you'd think talk of the show. I meant to say listen. What one thing this weekend's told me these two teams at the cia officers and the other four again have some great results they can have some okay souls and again option padres rules because the over rebecca inconsistent and where they finished who've knows it at this stage and chelsea one of those teams and you're right. I was really pleased franck franck because you know people last week already jumping on the bandwagon as too early to these call him back in the goals mason mount who who's been somebody supported you. No one wanted to decrease gets his co. Christian pulisic gets his assist. He confidence in the belief. He's highly when young people this system and what is doing came to fruition again not promoted team knowledgeable dwell in the plane with a bit of confidence as well. I just thought it was it was really good and important for frank and something that they can start to build on tummy. Abrahams will now start believing he can score goals regularly in the league week. 'cause he's not done it and just another big decision. I thought we got right. Pedro goes out injured rob before the star ross barkley way willie on the bench. There's other options the raw sparky that will tell us well the main thing. I was looking for new game from frontline parties. He said in his press conference is he felt the need to be more clinical and mostly they were more but he did say after g wants even more teams away and he didn't like the vulnerability counterattacking football and that i know yeah i know but it was better and we have to see from your manager is talked about it and make it make him better so i gotta remains the same the county as well as the best is nothing those things out so yeah big big day for big day chelsea goodwin and hopefully we'll start to see a little bit more of what he's trying to instill entity minute comes. I just sense with with with frank is instilling all these young class with confidence. He's telling them believes. I want to show what they do. In training amendment column hudson duly is back in training say you might not be too far away so on look a little a bit brighter jumped just just a fun thing you know i think we both the same rob love watching young players coming mason mound uh-huh christian pulisic abraham twenty one years of age and younger. I just i like it. Put a sick more involved. Yeah got involved this road inside the inference that he's going to gain every sound particularly every game that chelsea play while they win and he's power that he's going to grow rohe's atmosphere. You're going to grow now. Chelsea went on a run and don't win many games and he's there is so much more and older play you get through it. You <music> grounded. I'll i'll i'll let him out. Don't play as well. Oh i'm gonna give me in the team. I'm the one i'm not doing this. I'm not doing that all the negatives commend him and you know we we've been that we know that we know that story and the difference between it being a willion unas zero unapologetic right police. It feels new. He feels young yea yeah the situation. I'm telling you is going to fuel each other. The field is something special good result and some goals and assist then the funds will also start off that belief and and you buy some credit of some two games so i thought it was a good day for politic for mount for abram obviously veasley and something now from funds to to really. I'm trying to say hey this could be all right. Frank could be the man to to make this new look young a young chelsea team pretty successful absolutely great. Let's talk about <hes> ought not stop friday night football aston villa you'll make dean smith got off to a good fit for them against everton slightly <hes> inconsistent alberton. We're going to see from them. What food warm west time three you come up with a couple of big goals motonobu with input county them the three points brighton after that good stall got beat by southampton now housing unless sending-off wasn't it did did it could. It could have been a broken megan. Obviously the way that the game was played sheffield one to chef united not quite able to reproduce the form. They showed against palace. We're actually into attitude to goals audience auty and harvey bundled with the strike and the other one was wolves. One burnley want ashley bones and must remarkable and the one the quote miles west ham united because i think on paper it looks pretty exciting team. Sebastian of course the main man that needs to get the goal is he's in the goals this weekend. I love the midfield players around them and not bring some icy rob. Yeah we do show the under appreciated fullness of the week. A mind mind goes to a goalscorer game united states the penalty taker mark noble remarkable service under appreciated not not just today in this weekend can throw out a fifteen year career with west ham he's western through and through consistent th-through khanna magin how many managers ups jason downs and stadiums headroom protests and only fattened down and keep everybody on saw a great interview and he's a captain in a leader and to be fifteen years in the premise league zillion was three hundred and fifty two appearing states united goal penalty against did you play against the well fifteen years we definitely rumpling assu thousand and four of my my last season was with jeff for wednesday so no if he starts steaming we missed him yeah yeah so my only shape performance of the week you so you talked about earlier this week. Strikers a-bomb getting any goal. <hes> wesley are picked for aston villa. I i just thought that the big luxury showroom against spurs in the first game and didn't quite get to speed up things important. I go rob lovely ron one time drilling great finish and then he was involved in the second goal each hold. A playoff game was excellent. You know if aston villa in the premier league wesley hostage olympic goals twenty eight million dollars. They spent cla bruce goals. I think it was ten in twenty eight games last season county bring that kind of form to villa paul that love him love the center for the whole ten and if he can keep delivering dean smith and aston villa still staying yeah they might good for him. Good for the strikers needed goals that new clubs all the money span thou feel better. The fans feel better. I totally agree villa. Wisely has to be demand. There's not much else and tim to strike is but another brilliant brilliant weekend lots of controversy stories again. I look forward to next weekend. My friend i felt a little bit luck is that today robber felt a little things. You know i and these bromance the two together so we'll hopefully be back together soon but we'll we'll call it a day from that on we can when liverpool remain the only team with a perfect perfect record after three games and weekend when palace on did united a new castle shot spurs for next week's podcast after much. We four the small mountain of a north london dolly. I know he's must together to rob. Thanks for listening and it could not to me goodnight from him good nine.

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