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What to do at CSM Outside of the Conference with James Spencer, Patrick Berner and Monique Caruth
"Hey Jimmy here before we get started today just wanted to say thanks to Arias medical staffing for supporting the show Aureus. They're the experts in medical staffing with rewarding travel travel and full-time PT PTA. Jobs available nationwide for skilled therapists. Like you travel the country build your resume or make new friends or you will find the perfect job in a location. That's calling you and they'll provide you with full support every step of the way a U. R. E. US Medical Michael Dot com eight. Oh Am twenty twenty that stands for annual Orthopedic Meeting of the Academy of Orthopedic Physical Therapy their big big conference April April third and fourth in Twenty Twenty in Minneapolis Saint Paul Mall of America head Spine and shoulder disorders integration over isolation is the topic this year. What will you learn? Why should you go highlighting the orthopedic investigator factors affecting patients with concussion? Injuries Interconnection of head and neck complex relationship between the neck can shoulder lab breakouts focused on skill acquisition. That's what you're going to get aerial Giordano Rob Lendl Joseph Gouges Paul Ludwig and Lieutenant Colonel James t mills are featured speakers checkout more at or so pt dot Org Blue Hill kind of attraction to it is that you're setting the insurance overlords. You're not beholden to anybody. But you in the patient was patient on from you what you have to offer them. I think it's really rewarding work because Euler cutting out some of the control so you're able to do what people really need practice looking at. CSM previews we. We do a lot of those look at it some programming most of the time giving you some things to look forward to maybe attend as you go to a big meeting today bringing James Spencer. James Ferry collected background travel physical therapist for a long time. Now he's doing something completely different in terms of what working for a facility and a little bit of concierge. PT Plus lives in Colorado. So I want to a little bit of local insight into the things that you should do outside of the conference center. Yeah I'm talking about what should you do while you're in Denver. You'RE GOING TO BE IN DENVER. Do Cool Denver things so we get inside James's brain there and talk a little bit about the Academy of Orthopedic Physical Therapist which he is a member in good standing of that Academy episode is brought to you by Owens recovery signs. They're a single source for. PT's looking for certification in personalized blood flow restriction rehabilitation training and the equipment. You need to apply properly in clinical practice. Find Online at Owens recovery. Science Dot Com on that Website research information about BF. Our training and application. And if you'd like to get certified Johnny and the team. They are the leaders in B. F. R. Certification. So see them first and listen to them. First Johnny's got his own podcast on itunes. The Owens Recovery Science podcast. The best conversations happen at happy happy hour. Welcome to ours forum award. This is the P.. T. podcast here's your host physical therapist. Jimmy Mackay leadoff like we usually do by saying thank you thank you. Thank you The reviews on itunes those are great selfishly because of an ego maniac but also because it lets us know the number one that someone's listening a number two what you WanNa hear when people give us their insight. It kind of helps us into programming. What else do we get on the show? Who else should we get on the show? So thank you Sharon. Sharon stuff online is the the biggest thing you can give really telling a friend telling a colleague and subscribing to the podcast on whatever platforms you. Listen to audio. Would that be I tunes the Almighty tunes or spotify Google play or a million other pod catchers out there so thank you thank you thank you. We've been doing a lot of pre stuff stuff and we're gonNA continue that tradition but completely spin it on its head as we bring back James Spencer to the show. Welcome back man to be back here. We've looked at a a lot of programming done previews we do that before we go to a conference I find some stuff I think is interesting. We bring the person WHO's presenting or an author on talk about it. It gives people some some insight into some programming. They may want to see or some things they might want to look up. But you and I want to do something a little bit different because your local to Denver Ver- where CSM is going to be this year. So you got like inside knowledge. And that's what we want to pick your brain four. I Yeah I hope so I hang Out in Denver a bit. I live A little ways outside in Aspen Colorado. So you know that's really what I want to push everybody to either before or after go get on. The ski slopes in a day or two out in the mountain yeah. I'm trying very hard to not say where the beer flows like wine but there it goes. I just said it like geography wise because I been there before to Denver Not Aspen. What's the distance between the two you know at the girls lives? We're not too far but I spent four hour drive okay. Up Over Mountain Mountain passes and around the hills and then back down our little valley here all right so Wilbert shorter in the summer. I said you were local. I'm in New York your your local to Denver. But you've spent some time there and so what I wanted to do is pick the brain of someone who knows it way better than me because again. I don't know the difference distance between Denver and Aspen. Aspen they could have been next to each other. You could tell me that I wouldn't difference so when people because Colorado Aspen Denver like it's a destination I mean it's a place people oh put on their calendar to go to. I wanted to give people some insight into some things. They must do outside of the conference. Yes coining corning l'excellent this fantastic go learn go network do the whole nine but also make sure to do something cool because as my dad told me. Hey man one day we're all GONNA be dirt dirt which sounds really morbid but what it means is do some cool stuff while you have the opportunity especially when you're in a cool city like Denver so if someone's coming into to Denver you you know what what's on your list to tell him. Do you know I think it's Kinda racking. My brain of all the different things have gone into Denver for the year and One Is Red Rock. It's not real close to the conference center but it's you know. Maybe a thirty minute Uber Ride and last night looking at PRICES ON UBER or lift. It was thirty bucks to get over there and they have these great outdoor concert fully natural amphitheatre just a really unique place and and there's not a whole lot going on for concerts during. CSM There is some local music there but they have hiking trails and the the Colorado Music Hall of fame and a bunch of other stuff that you could easily fill a day where it's it's not just an evening. Yeah Red rocks killer suggestion number one all out myself. I'm Dave Matthews Band Fan and they recorded a pretty great Album out there live album had a chance is to To kind of you know. Hike the steps hike around there a little bit. It is worth the trip. If if you're looking to get out and do some moving maybe WANNA get up early one day or you're GonNa stay a day later come a day early yet. Red Rocks being not terribly close but also not terribly far and you mentioned the museum as a guy who used to work in rock radio. Oh man they got some really cool like guitars and just photos of the legendary performers Supernova. So if your music fan red rocks pretty cool to check out. I'd say it's definitely worth the ride there and back Walker on over there. There really is We had Matt Tuttle from the Denver Nuggets on not long ago and I actually creeped on his Twitter instagram and saw that they actually do some Denver Nuggets preseason training they make the I think it was just the rookie. Though they're making the rookies run the steps at red rocks which which is Kinda cool that even the even the the Denver Nuggets are using red rocks as a way to get some exercise. That's so cool. I thought that through some great shots. Heck yeah moving on what else so at red rocks definitely pretty good thing to start with. What else do you suggest people check out? I think A areas of the city to just hang out larimer square square is known for its restaurants nightlife and and everything going on there but then and then drilling where I've hung out. It's on Blake Street. Kinda leads away from their up towards course feel hill. And there's some cool places to hang out along there and and I really you know when I think of Denver. I think you gotta Lay from rise on course field up there as well mentioning mentioning chorus field. We do WanNa bring up something that is you know local to Denver but also specific to CSM PT pub. Night is going to be on Thursday that that is the Thursday the thirteenth of of CSM from six attend the PTA. Pub night will be at Jackson's Denver. That is a bar right across the street right from From course fields. Here's what I know about them. The sports bar lots of room lots of beers on tap and not far from the conference itself. So I'm GonNa make sure checkup I got pt pub night. We'll be doing some interviews live on site from that night at Jackson's Denver so we'll see you guys out there. If you want more information about that and you want to preregister preregister maybe get yourself a free t shirt give those sometimes follow at night on twitter all right so that's that's CSM. I'm excited fingers crossed on the the weather. A ton of snow up there this year in Colorado or has it looked like for you guys. You know a lot of snow in the mountains. We'd be getting little storms and it's fantastic out here but but but Denver's really Variable this time if you're looking earlier this week it was Thirty degrees they're supposed to be seventy this coming week. It could be anything and everything. That's cleanser is so variable as New York looking at Denver. You know all we know is was just super cold and then that's what I've heard from people like listen man. Denver could be just as you said seventy or thirty so I guess pack accordingly when you're headed out there to the mile high city all right so that's our that's are inside. Look with with James Spencer Sam. Let's talk about something specific to you. I give people just kind of snapshot of what you did talk about the first time we had you on the show but I think your story is pretty pretty cool to tell again just your journey through travel pt. And what you're able to do with it. Yeah I mean it's been a a lot of years since we've talked about my travel so until about three years ago I was traveling with my wife and I just kind of unintentionally intentionally we ended up coming out to Colorado in the wintertime and then we were going elsewhere in the summertime so often go back to New England in the summer. I'm from author author and she's from Maine and often go to Hawaii in the summertime. We did that war about ten or eleven years we kept it going for awhile and it was fantastic was an awesome lifestyle but eventually came around. I haven't kids and needling needing to settle down a little bit here in Colorado I whenever travel. PT comes comes up and people talk about really the things that they're looking for. Someone brings up flexibility. You're the Guy I talk about. I'm like I know this guy's Spencer. He would do like Hawaii. Colorado Massachusetts Colorado Wherever Colorado and. It was just cool to see that. That's an option like it's not like hey you could do that. It's like hey someone did that. So it's completely possible so I just love I just love bringing that up. And you've you sent me what I thought was the coolest pint cast souvenir in your ever. Tell people what you mailed you you you mailed something to me and I opened it simply confused. But I fell in love immediately Hawaiian coconut and And and we're over on this rural island in Hawaii and and I don't WanNa say it's name because I don't want to get it out there too much. Ah I guess we'd Love Hawaii but not this way and there's this guy get area in the Post Office he inspects the coconuts. Make sure they're not carrying any decision. Coconut weeble and and I painted up the coconut and you slap stance on it and stick it right in the mailbox and offer goes just shows up in the mail wherever you'd like so yeah one day one day I'm sitting there and and A coconut with stamps. On it legitimately was not wrapped. Arrives but ahead pete the pint. Our podcast logo just painted on the side. That will about a whole lot Mike. My whole fantasy league got some of my coconuts with tracks on your it is. It is brilliant kind of my move that summer. That's that's still in my possession shirow display it proudly so you mentioned having kids and settling down and not doing the travel thing that you did so well for so long. But I'd say you settled in a pretty cool malaria. So what if you got into now wanted to get into this niche this other thing our profession. I don't know so flexible to use a physical therapy upon a lot of range of motion there in terms of your career you're doing a little bit of concierge. Pt and that's the thing that's you know fifteen years ago wasn't possible but completely possible now. Oh Yeah Yeah you know I mean you know that there's just there's so much we can do without passion whether that'd be clinically or I've always felt like if I ever got really tired but clinical stuff you know you could go to add because she got you insurance where you could do. I mean there's so many places you can go and we talked a little bit about the traveling I miss that so much just all all the different experiences that I got through that what I have settled down here in a in a pretty good situation In in in a in a fulltime job at a hospital but my wife and I started Ajax physical therapy a mobile concierge peachy practice primarily her on it but I dabble in it as well and and that's taking cash base based pt to to people who see the value in it or loan to pay for it and you know around here. There is an actual an affluent population that we thought those would be our people that we are really getting but we're finding that it's religious locals who want good. PT Want it to come to them and see value in having the right person working on. How did you When you when you hung the slate as you say how did you go about trying to find? Those people are connect or just letting them know that you know you exist and that this service is now available to them from you largely word of mouth around your won't put up a website and facebook page and did all those sorts of things which I think have driven a couple of people with the largely. It's just been people we know saying you know talking to someone and that person needs some physical therapy. I don't know where to go. Oh Hey my my friends Keaton. Jane are Therapists and they've started their own business. And why are you tried contacting. I'm not that's really where people have come from as great just shows the variety of different settings settings that you can create in our profession. You can say. Hey I'll I'm GONNA do this on the side. I got a buddy ZAC Harmon who is out in Colorado. As well kind of started the same way had a fulltime job and then went to a couple of days a week I think was his you know. He wanted to dip a toe in it and see if it was viable and eventually he saw it was and I think that's I think that's that's really great. I remember hearing about concierge. P. T. or this idea not even that long ago I was GONNA say ten years ago but it had to be less and people were were saying campy done not sustainable annable. Don't bother going into it and now you see more and more. It is one hundred percent sustainable. And I'm guessing rewarding. What do you get out of it you know in terms of the intangible rewards you know I mean the the real kind of attraction to it is that you're setting the insurance overlords? Yeah you know you're you're not really. You're not beholden to anybody but you in the patient. What the patient on from you what you have to offer them? I think it's really rewarding work. Because you're you're you're cutting out some of the control so you're able to do what people really need. I think it's a great foreign practice you know I think we've hit on a lot of benefits. Just help expletives it is an and higher really able physically therapy more going to the patient I mean we say that a lot is make sure you meet the customer. You meet the patient where they are. I mean concierge. PT housecall physical therapy. That's the living embodiment of it. So I'm glad to To see you. You're living that to flexibility ability right. I mean that's that's really what your your travel career got to teach you or give. You was this flexibility and and continuing that but you did mention that you were also working for a facility. parttime at least is it slope side. Is that legit. Yeah Yeah I've been working so coming out here for the last however many years I've been working at the hospital little and occasionally at this little clinic that we have slope side on snowmass mountain. It originally started just as urgent care and emergency side of overtime Talton outpatient practice and just a few weeks ago I moved in into their full-time so Getting a little bit more skiing on my lunch breaks and staying scheme which I love that. That's great that's cool to hear here with James Spencer on the show If you can if you want to follow him online his His socials as the kids were calling it. These days on twitter on facebook at Hobo health. Begin the Ortho sexually mentioned advocacy. We're we're actually pairing up with the Ortho sections pretty excited to talk about it. Their annual meeting annual orthopedic. Meeting Twenty twenty. Have you been to one of these before. Yeah absolutely this was coming up April third and fourth focus. This year they do pick a focus head spine shoulder disorders integration over isolation. And it's going to be mall of America Minnesota not in the food court. I asked I got excited. But it's GonNa be at the Conference Center at the mall of America When I bring that up I know you're an active member of the orthopedic? I was GONNA say Section Academy of Orthopedic Physical Therapy. Pardon me you know. What about this meeting excites you? You know when I wear probably five or six years ago. I just found it to be great programming. You know I have a hard time this point finding good continuing ed or finding something that really drives me you know I think. CSM and the conferences are top of our profession. You know you get experts talking about things but at the same time huge student enrolling fellow population there them so so sometimes. I'm just looking for more advanced content and I think I found that in McAdams annual meeting just a higher level. It pushed me to think a little bit. It was new and it was great and it was coming from from the exports in our field. Yeah when we were looking into this one I. I've never been might be palm sugar this year. It's an April in Minnesota which is a pretty good time to be a minnesota. What I liked ached about it when I started doing the research and digging big enough to be interesting to get those people in the room that you're talking about but not overwhelming in terms of not so big that you feel like like you're just roaming around and it's you know? CSM its strength is its size but also part of its weakness can be. It's is what looked into so far having not been but just what I've heard and seen is that. AOL Look Big enough to be relevant and good but not so big that you're going to get swallowed up by it The one when I went through maybe at one hundred fifty people at it. We've been having tactic hands on manipulation labs and that sort of thing and that's the type of program that they try to bring. Yeah big focus on that. I know that they're listening to their audience as they prepare these each and every year there sponsor in the show right about now but One of their big focuses when they listen to the people who've taken the course or who would like to come back again is is that we just mentioned which that hands on component. Yes so I WANNA learn. WanNa listen but they don't WanNa do. I WANNA be able to question. I want to be a feel feel and then ask a question again instead of just being a gigantic lecture hall the Entire Day so details about that I'd be a bad podcastone. Must have shared that with the Ortho. PT Dot Org details for the annual Orthopedic Meeting Twenty Twenty available there. Anything anything else. You WanNa talk about that. We can squeeze in a top of mind. It's on your on your brain. No I didn't have anything prepared but but when you say that for some reason twenty twenty keeps coming to my mind autonomous practice during during profession direct access the other points. That aren't right up front of my brain and as we were talking about concierge. PT and travel PT and and Thinking about how some aspects of that. We're really heightening. I just hope that's something that everybody's talking about whether they're practicing is is really trying to provide the basketball. You can't and as experts in non surgical management musculoskeletal conditions. Yeah I think that's the talking one of our profession with with you doing so much advocacy we should let the. It's there Your state delegate. Writing in in Colorado. I'm actually going to be the Orthopedic Academy Delegate Nice All right so involvement involvement with within the profession of vision. Twenty twenty was. When was that brought about three four years ago? Maybe longer in terms of here of things I want to accomplish by twenty twenty which I'm sure when they set out to achieve it seemed like the future but all of a sudden we're in twenty twenty and it looks like a lot of those things got checked off the list in done. Yeah Yeah you know and a lot of them are kind of. They're moving targets. There's there are things to work towards. We have direct access in every state but we don't have complete open full full direct access state so there's still Goals to be achieved. But we're looking at a totally different profession than when they came up with that back in two thousand five or something bad I think the entire percussion change in that. Is that one that one vision twenty twenty one that long ago two thousand five or around back in that timeframe back in that time for written. Wow that's great yes so I guess you know probably going into the future people like you. Who are in the governing process of our profession ashes? You're going to have to pick a target like twenty thirty twenty forty twenty fifty and draw up some new new things to strive towards anything top of mind for you that you'd WanNa see the profession go towards in terms of solving. You know I I never really known. These are the kind of questions I ask myself just sitting there were some people back in the early. Two thousand were really visionary and saw where this Profession GonNa win and I kinda. I wonder how you get yourself there and get yourself a mind for him to be able to do that. You've got to be you've got to be really entrenched in stuff for a long time. I guess to see to really be able to say where we are now and to really say what great possibilities are in our future and need to be in our future so glad to see that and we'll see what comes out of House of delegates at the next conference which is not far off in June. This take the parting shots. The parting shot is brought to you by rock tape. 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If you're missing this one I really want to put the bug in your brain Make sure to plan to attend a meeting like this or a next to or national student. Conclave if you're a student he's big meetings you get got a lot out of them you get that energy you get that that connection so I think well said James appreciate the time giving us a preview of the the local flavor and we'll see in Denver boundary the we'll be right back to the time cast new step created the first PROC of its kind twenty five years ago. That was the new step. recumbent recumbent cross trainer now. It's a maintained rehab with physical therapists worldwide new step now continues its tradition of innovation with the new step transit. Another innovation in recumbent cross trainers for physical therapists delivering real time. biofeedback with this piece of equipment letting you use it. 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Just check them out and see what they have to offer. They've been doing this for a couple. Ah decades a U. R. E. U. S. medical dot com to the PT. Tynecastle with Jimmy Mackay next the CSM preview. We talked to Patrick Berner. Her and Mozambique Caruth got pretty inventive. Way To get in front of some people who might not have been in front of a physical therapist before and they're doing it in the community right where we always say. Physical therapist should be well. They're putting their effort. Their mouths is the P. T. tynecastle it's all that. CSM As we we get ready for the big dance the biggest dance in the profession. CSM COMING UP February twelfth fifteenth in the Mile High City of Denver as while more than seventeen eighteen thousand physical therapists are going to go to Colorado this year. Bring him back on the show. Patrick Berner and I think the first time on the program right now. Monique Caruth guys. Welcome to the show. You glad to talk to you guys because Near and dear to my heart is how do we help people not only in our clinical environment. But how how can we do it outside of that and you guys are pretty intimately involved with a project. That's going to be going on outside of the the walls of the conference center at CSM. And I WANNA talk about that you frame up for me what you guys are GonNa be doing and and really how it came about the initiative they were doing title. PT and the community. We end. It's one of the two a PTA community initiative that that are going on during the FM initiative and then the step challenge of people are familiar with at the teaching community. It's really kinda twofold and we're working with the Denver Public School system and then we're also working with the homeless population of the Denver area near the Convention Center so there's a fundraising apparent as a volunteer opportunity component right raising money for applies for the schools that majority of those public schools are a minority population. So it's underserved. Population and in the applies for Cam packages for the Homa opportunities ripened fruits on the ground care packages doing interactive stuck with the schools. We're their love that WHO's really going to get the benefit of this. Who who are the kids that that you're going to be helping the kind of paint that picture for the audience? The most of the kids in Denver Public School System with the net system is actually a hundred schools so with our our partnership that the Colorado thinks after has made with the public school system. And we're going to shoot the try and get into about ten or fifteen or the school that wins. They of him most of the the kid grammar school kind of middle school aged kids and like I said most of that population is a minority. By in kind of those under funded ended an underserved school systems at school locations like that and specifically. What are you guys doing there in the schools? What are you going to be bringing to the community meaner highlight that for me? Yeah so with the schools we have an assembly kind of map out right there with the schools that are participating are we got about forty five minutes minutes with the school with the kids. They're kind of an assembly style. Riding the goal is to educate them on their profession. If there's therapy but also Advocates them on healthy. Living Movement is important. Why healthy eating is important? You know getting enough sleep really trying to paint them a picture. What healthier living With an all throw you know let them know about our profession in that it is an option in the future. Something to look into Let's talk about big picture. Goals down the line Komo Nick. How's this going to make their lives better? How's it going to change things for the individuals that you guys get to come in contact with while all insist on bringing awareness to the profession? People are gonNA fall seeing different. Pharmacists therapy we been highlighting the onyx unexpected that affects people are what the get into the the and yet so we are going to be a large group bear. They're in studying folk when the food on the community So so do do for topic efforts. We've come here to transform them. I believe if the kids get to know what support back they've evolved and get the different people of all there's race ethnicity representing the profession. And we'll probably give them a women to pop wanted to come back intend. The homeland reached their offense from its mission that we ran a treat. We treat them if they can receive. Ah from us. He actually goes to. Let's say to me that's the next thing and truly awesome. Thanks that's great How people follow up someone listening right now? If they want to help while they're in Denver or from afar what would they need to do. We're going to go for the the easiest thing to get all the information. It is p in the community dot com. That's our that's our webpage on that you'll find kind of history of teaching the community by this is something that really started to go by kind of give you a little history. But then we've got length within the website to donate time right which are linked to a gray sheet that Kinda sign up for the volunteer opportunities that are available or donate down which would be a link to Gofundme page that we've got running to collect funds for the supplies and the kids and then the cost the homeless love. Seeing things like this come to fruition. Seven examples of it happened all the time in terms of like things like go. Ba- go or shoot for kids physical therapists standing up and saying this is a patient population. EH WE WANNA make sure they know we exist. They're underserved and you're doing something about it so we'll make sure to get all the links to everything we just talked about in this program. I'm in the show notes of this episode so if anybody's listening they can While they can jump in and pitch in to help is is there anything you'd want you know some physical therapist going to CSM SM to To know about this and and reasons why they should you know really embrace movements like this in the future really knocker puny right. It sounds like you had mentioned in the insurer right got about seventeen eighteen thousand of those kind of descend on a city. And it's just an opportunity to Khalid the Convention Center winner in go into the community and kind of influence the people that we are influencing but but not directly right. We're just probably increasing traffic and increasing increasing congestion in the city. But when I directly giving back to the opportunity to do so guys really appreciate you guys putting you're putting your effort where your mouth is and putting it to To good use while the profession is busy at CSM dental care thank the PT. PODCAST is a product of P podcast. LLC It is hosted and produced by PT podcast CEO Jim McKay and Cbo Sky Donovan. From marymount. The university. We talk drink beer and recorded. This has been another poor from the PT PODCAST PD. PODCAST is intended for educational purposes. Only no clinical clinical decision making Chevy based solely on one source care is taken to ensure accuracy factual errors can be present more on the show at PT. PODCASTS DOT. Com WanNA thank Brooks Zay H. L. 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Wait until you hear which legend is waiting in the wings all that and more it is time to get up with you starting right now and it feels like there is a special excitement in the air. It's because there is there are eleven preseason football games on the schedule tonight so as you can see we are jam packed actor with football knowledge insight and expertise. We're ready to go. Take a look at what we have coming up tonight for you again. The storylines preseason weeklong enfold kicks off tonight tonight at all the notable rookie quarterback should be enacted including number six overall daniel jones with the giants taking on the jets at seven eastern a half hour later fellow. Hello i one quarterback. Dwayne haskins expected to make his debut for washington will visit the browns who are themselves the off seasons most pipe teeth then later tonight the number one overall pick tyler murray takes his first pro snaps against the chargers the bolts of course we'll be without melvin gordon who was holding out and as requested a trait great and then joe flacco expected to make his broncos debut at the seahawks while drew lock will look to bounce back from his thirty four yard performance and the hall of fame gave gave last week and so i want to go around the table here a little bit and just get the one thing we're all looking forward to most most interested in seeing tonight's preseason games. Everyone gets a grech receding. We start with you. I'm gonna be there tonight at metlife stadium to see what fans all wanna check out and pretty much have been questioning. Why are you taking do quarterback at number six. Well the giants grassings. He is the next manning he's got a great training camp lots of positive things coming out of practicing tonight the bright stoplights right into see what he can do that <hes> the first real look at daniel johns ryan clark. What are you looking forward to seeing tonight. I'm looking to see kim. The washington redskins finally find their franchise quarterback. We're back for so long. They've been looking for that. Guy thought they had him in r._g. Three and you get kirk cousins and you give him a way. Allow him to go to minnesota. Alex smith hurts hurts himself may never play again. Kendall wayne haskins be that guy and tonight will be our first opportunity to see if he is bobby carpenter. What are you looking forward to lamar jackson you saw last year's six and one is a started. They made the playoffs. He's able to run around and make some place. Is he going to make that next. Step as a thrower will they be able to hang in the fox fine receivers down the field and deliver the ball accurately on and finally might tan about what are you looking forward to seeing cuyler murray a cliff kingsbury. The arizona cardinals both prolific offenses from college. How's that translate to the pro level this. He takes saps from under center. Does he move around onto to stay in the pocket. It's gonna be a fascinating offense to see developed stirring tonight in the preseason i completely agree and and that's slow it down for a moment and let's focus on that one for a minute because because yes i think one of the most interesting storylines off the upcoming n._f._l. Season is what does this offense look like that kingsbury brings and that murray is running but how much of that if you want to put like a percentage on it. Should we expect to see tonight in a preseason. I mean you'll probably see a quarter of what's going to be in the playbook which you'll understand formations. You'll get an opportunity to see if he's under center. Are they taking snaps from shotgun so we'll see a little bit of what this offense might materialize into as the season goes along but don't don't expect any trick. Please don't expect anything fancy. This would be the bare bones of this new walk diana. What are you hearing coming out of there as far as murray his progress what they're seeing in terms of whom understanding this playbook they feel very confident. He's picked up this offense. I'm told that head coach with a young rookie quarterback. They're really looking to see if he can go out there. Get in the huddle able to have a cadence people to lead out there and just go through the process. It's really what they're going to try to keep an eye on because in terms of the plays flays out there. You're you're not gonna see a lot of layers. When you have a rookie quarterback you wanted to have some success and then get them out there and like you mentioned you won't see him. Break the huddle. You weren't him get seeing you can take the snap not burn any time outs and really just operate the offense and be daniel jones calamari. You want to see them have a little success tonight and then you want to pull them out and it's make progress. This is only a week one. I'm looking at that whole offense and his ryan said you're gonna see twenty five percent of very small piece but temple or are they going to have. Is this going to be a situation where they're trying to get get a snap off eighteen seconds. They're going to slow it down. Speed it up so those things are all going to play into how they're going to remember. When chip kelly i came to philadelphia we were all dying to see what that offense was going to look like you showed us none of it and then i would just the wash it was like this to be that unexpected almost nothing from arizona in the preseason then we'll find out i wanna go back to jets-giants here and this is self serving because it's not just daniel jones that will be interested in watching tonight. Danny you will be there. What else are you keeping. An eye on is going to be on levy mbelle but i was told that levian will not be playing tonight despite the fact that he says he wants to get in there obviously he's a little rusty hasn't played football wall in eighteen months but i know that the front office there and also the coaches. They have a little bit of a difficult decision there because they wanna get him out there. They want to see their new toy. Sam darnold certainly gently does but for right now they don't feel that bell is ready to go jesse yet but in terms of what i am going to be watching greg williams with this jet steph and much like the offense offense we're not going to see tons but he was brought in here to change it up and to take deep into a new level guys at training camp the loudest human being being out on the field is this offensive coordinator and it seems of his players are responding to it. Jamal adams saying there is an flavor. I feel like we're born again. Dan we with this new leadership so i think we're you know we expect a lot of lifting from atlanta metro. We're gonna see a lot of that but i'm interested to see the fleet of that catch up late for great <hes> steve jackson. Who's the safety coach. I take through jamal and so i asked him you know. What does it feel like. He's like crazy as like they're so excited right. He's like it's a different atmosphere around the defense and when you go back to the good steeler deficient maybe phrase that the great steeler defense that i played with it was built strong strong down the middle right there was casey hampton and it was james ferry and it was choi paula malu they have built this jets jets team and defense up very much in the same way we if grade williams can add some about slavery put some of those pressures in exotic combinations. He can throw at different teams. This could be graham by defense more than off well well when you look at that. He loves to stop the run up front. Load the box for skies the push the ball outside and the biggest thing greg williams is always gonna bring is energy and expectations. He's all about going to expect the defense to be hard hitting fast as one of the best in the n._f._l. That's something just give us and let me circle then back tantamount to you at the washington quarterbacks that ryan brought up that what i think is very interesting to see how that plays out. What do you expect from dwayne. Haskins unlike tyler murray and maybe even daniel jones. Dana jones not really competing to start the season. He's not going into collar. Murray is going to has kind of the wild card. How do you expect that to play well. Haskins has great talent and he got a lot better last year at the be in the season he was up and down down but to his credit he got better and better. He has a great arm. He is a full feel quarterback. Colt mccoy sounds like he's gonna start. They're gonna give him a chance to you'll start the season or see how the preseason goes but haskins of all the quarterbacks were talking about. It has such a high ceiling and i think his game really translates to the pro level because of his arm awesome yeah just to go with where we're at right now. So mccoy won't play tonight. He's dealing with a little bit of an injury so he'll be on the silence case. Keenum shoud get the start for washington and ed haskins obviously will step in there but in terms of what you can see in terms of time. He's kingdoms go out. There and i'm told that he goes out there and has a successful. I drive. They're pulling him right out and then it's rookie time and in terms of the competition right now i'm told at this point it called koi case keenum and then the working so as much work cited to see him out there at this this point where we're three weeks away from from opening day the work. He's not going to be starting so here's my my big thing. We've really lowered the expectations for rookie quarterback tobacco and put limitations on what we want to see from from dwayne haskins. I don't wanna see right. The first time i saw jeremy shockey touch an actual football field and competition he ran over the houston texans safety and we automatically knew he was going to beat at do same thing with sean taylor was going to be. It's only o'brien was going to be on the practice squad first first time we throw him of all in preseason catches a slant go sixty. Mike tomlin walks by me goes where they'll goes their plan. I said well what was the player coach well. We were going to try to put him on practice squad now we can't can't we have to keep them. That's what you wanna see from rookies who gets a play with other rookies guy struggling to make the roster show up show out right. That's a great point. Go back to two thousand thousand historically. Tom breeze six pick bill. Belgium's credit. Tom brady threw thirty. Two passes at preseason kept him on the active roster. No-one else kept four quarterbacks on the after roster. That's a great point ryan and preseason games matter for that reason and the one thing in washington and diana quoted you a million times because you sat right here on our set and said it's not always the coach's his decision with that organization and that is the one thing that hovers around all of this so that's all the action we have tonight. Meanwhile we have this story which sounds funny but is it. A source has confirmed we s._p._n. That antonio brown has missed a majority of raiders training camp because he has frostbite on his feet and this congress not wearing proper footware when he underwent therapy last month in france burning his feet in the process. We've seen these pictures. Perhaps jon gruden addressed this with sal paolantonio and it's like wait for santa claus. I've been really excited and coaches man. I think he's a great player and he's a great competitor and we need his life in this offense on the football team but we'll just cross our fingers. I'll make no speculation whatsoever. He's got to get it evaluated. He's got the information you need and when he does we'll be back. You know who he is. Is i mean it's sky's the legendary worker. He's got a great competitive fire. He practices at one speed. He does everything at one speed and right now. He can't go at that speed and it's frustrating to him so we'll continue to monitor it and bring raider fans up to speed as soon as we can okay. This is a really complicated situation. I remember there's a legendary legendary story ricky henderson. The baseball player once fell asleep on an ice pack and missed a major league game with frostbite in august and we've laughed about that over the years. This is obviously a totally really different situation. He's missing valuable time because of something that happened under these circumstances. Now you're the organization. Are you looking at that well. Hopefully he'll be ready to go for opening opening day and and for the season but if he's not the discussions that they're having is because it was a non football injury meaning this happened outside the purview of the organization and away right from the facility. They don't have to pay him if he doesn't play this year and i'm not saying that's what they're gonna do. I'm just saying that's the conversation. They're having a lot of money. It's fourteen million six hundred thousand dollars and you were making the point nine meeting this morning that you have the cryotherapy it at at the dolphin and just how careful everyone is about that oh greedy you have to be because it's so cold. Also we have very strict protocols to cover your hands cover. Your feet have asked to cover your nose so obviously this reportedly happened in france. Don't really know with the priests procedures were there but we wouldn't let somebody go into the cry without supervision are a this feels to me like a very big deal because dan orlovsky has sat in that chair many anytime soon told me derek carr has until november first to convince jon gruden he is the raiders quarterback of the future and then after that all bets are off if he doesn't get to work with antonio around. Let's just say for the sake of argument. Brown does come back to play but he misses all of camp and basically all of the preseason with just starting to feel like that feels to me like a very big deal. Do you think derek carr is better. Better did a better passer than back prescott <hes>. I don't know backed. Tonio brown is a better player than amari cooper. Yes that word that worked immediately. You get a week of practice and networks right off the bat because playing the wide receiver position. It's about understanding that position how to get opening a quarterback quarterback being able to get you the ball the one practice. We've got to see on hornets. Antonio brown was running by conley mullins and you saw what type of place that he can make. I believe that and we're making this a little bit more about derek carr than we are at tony o'brien. It's about antonio brown giddy back and being healthy because if he's healthy he will help derek car immediately. He's that type of impact player and i know that chemistry is important but if you listen the derek carr talk about antonio brown. He legit feels their friends. He feels like there's a relationship there and that's something that we can't undermine we can't diminish. I believe they'll be fine once. He's held clear in your point on the cowboys as well taken. Mario cooper stepped right in and look great but you do not believe that the time that antonio brown has missing now will necessarily be a major factor in there i do not i do not feel like that. When you look at guy that works the way he is that plays the way that he has played throughout his career and derek carr least understanding that talent is going to be incumbent on jon gruden in a staff to make sure to get him the ball into places. He's supposed for what it's worth in the mock draft and i know it's much too early. Todd mcshay has the raiders taking your quarterback for the next year so we'll see he's not completely sold one way or the other about tonio brown missing price barrena. No it's about jon gruden who always likes the next quarterback you might be able to get. Let's talk about another wide receiver. Let's talk about josh gordon. You know that he is suspended. You know that he is now hoping to return to the n._f._l. He has applied for reinstatement once again. He was suspended december twentieth for violating the terms is up the substance abuse policy roger goodell. The commissioner has sole discretion over gordon's reinstatement and you can't overstate just how good a player. This guy is extremely unlimited opportunity. He's had to play. He led the n._f._l. And receiving yards just fourteen games in the two thousand thirteen season he has just under fourteen hundred yards in the last five years roughly half of those in that span came last season with the patriots so mike tannenbaum you know those patriots well having competed against them in the division with both the jets and the dolphins how how's ignificant. Do you think josh gordon is in the patriots plans. This could be a very good potential opportunity for them because right now he suspended if and when he gets reinstated they also could get roster exemption and why that's important is he doesn't count on their roster and so it doesn't cost a roster spot and one thing about competing against new england they evolved during the season i think early on with the absence of gronkowski the suspension of watson they will be a little bit more balanced rely on the running game. They've added sony michelle l. damian harris. They have james white the patriot offense. We see september could be very different than what we see in november when ben watson comes back and potentially josh forty coming back so it's an opportunity that has very little downside and to their credit greenie compete against them every year. Their offense gets a lot better during the season and i think this year will be no exception into that. You know what mike makes excellent point about the way that they were using josh gordon he was the downfield big body receiver and tom brady actually sometimes and some points would try. It's a forced the ball into them. Because of those talents. I played against josh gordon toward the end of my career. He wasn't that same player last year for the new england patriot. He's a little diminish. The other part is the patriots live in reality living in football reality reality in the real world. They're not going to be dependent on a player who is not dependable and so for me. It will be the ultimate luxury if you can get him down the road in the season. This is a player you want to use but i don't believe the patriots will have this in their plan. It's going to be one of those things if we get him if he's able to play if he's reinstated if he's healthy both mind body and soul this guy we can win with if not we'll find another the way to win which they did last year after having him on the roster right. I totally agree with that and if we're sitting here in november the patriot receiving court may have somebody else that we're not even talking about and we'll see is the mary thomas that's steps up is harry. That's right is in nikiel harry. Frontline guy does braxton burials last year round pick from the university of miami this evolve and that's theirselves rob gronkowski. Come back around week eight or nine so we're very tight about first pick of the draft. You weren't telling you think it could happen. I don't think it's it's it beyond the realm of possibility at all and i wanna say this about josh gordon too. I'm sorry if i sidetrack the conversation into grant because i think it is important to say this about josh gordon jeff. Gordon is a player who has missed it. Almost here's basically lost for all intents and purposes entire career because of significant issues that he has a battle that he is facing everyone around him. Anyone i've ever talked to says he is not a bad person. Here's a good person with a really bad problem absolutely honest. I have never life rooted for the new england patriots to win a game. I root for that guy somehow no way to cut together because the opportunity for him with tom brady and he's still a young player is overwhelming. I think the one thing i root for him for his. You don't want to look back after your career is over and realize you have squandered these opportunities in the way that the patriots were set up to help him last year. I was very very impressed by the time time the money in the hours. They put into trying to help this young man all right. I gotta get up and go here. We have a million other things to get to in the first item comes from the national football league forty niners defensive at nick bosa left practice early. Yesterday's been diagnosed with an ankle sprain. It's not considered serious. He's the second overall pick in the draft. He missed most of the forty niners off season program mm-hmm with a hamstring. We know that he's had all sorts of injury. Problems are see how concerned are we about him staying on the field you know i am very concerned about mrs the guy who took all the rest of his junior season so he could be ready for the n._f._l. Draft so he can be ready for the combine with the have him mistiming offseason hamstrings and now with the ankle. This is looking like like a guy that will stay in the training room and also stayed on the injury report next note we go to college. He may have started the season as the clinton quarterback but that's not enough for dabo swinney. The coach was quoted yesterday. Saying kelly bryant is not getting a championship ring. Quality wasn't on the team. You gotta be on the team to get a ring bob carpenter doing the right thing. I think he's doing the right thing. You did the right thing by kelly bryant when told him trevor lawrence was going to be the started after week four it allowed him to transfer. He made that decision. He was no longer on the team. The next it's week against syracuse trevor lawrence gets hurt. They almost lose the game. He could've came in the hero. He chose to lead. If i was if i was i would have put it through his teammates food right frankly. He left his team. He was given the option. He probably doesn't deserve here. You don't have a problem with him leaving but that doesn't mean to get. I mean that's a reasonable position. Let me get you to the n._b._a. Guy is we get up and go. It was not the ending of course that kevin durant was hoping for tearing his achilles in game five of the n._b._a. Finals and bob myers famously said he would take the blame but kevin durant told gaudin sports he doesn't blame the warriors quote hell no. How can you blame the warriors hell no. I heard the warriors pressured me into getting back. Nobody ever said a word to me doing rehab as i was coming back so he takes the warriors off as as getting blown out by the yankees once again wasn't enough. It was a situation in the orioles dugout. That's join all the attention now. That's chris davis going after manager. Brandon high has to be restrained by teammates high spoke about the incident after the game. It was just a disagreement that we had in the dugout what was said and what we talked about. I'm not going to get into his rookie but in house and that's private <hes> but yeah i was just can you know something that happens sometimes and and frustration boils over a little bit when not playing our best baseball last couple of games and unfortunately i it was caught on camera and <hes> people to see it but sometimes things happen there. You have it chris davis by other ways. July's three years and over sixty million dollars left on his contract after this season since signing this deal in two thousand sixteen he has baseball's worst batting average while leaving the majors features with seven hundred seventeen strikeouts. We will take our first time out of a busy morning. Coming up the bears want mitchell trubisky push the envelope and opened up the offense is is that a good idea. We'll get answered and i'll hot as clay health and seat at u._s._c. Is there enough talent for a trojan turnaround if not is there a big game waiting in the wings. Those are the questions and we've got the answer on e._s._p._n. Get get up is brought to you by corona extra. Find your beach and buys ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire. We have have a really busy half hour coming your way on up. Including five minutes is the hottest seat in college football the wanted seeing who's standing waiting in the wings after that is the quarterback the bears ready for a breakout season reason to think so and then we will do rant jared goff more as we continue. It's a busy morning with you. Get up on e._s._p._n. 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Laura rutledge goes in search of the answer national champions the trojans of the u._s._c. a perfect season at thirteen though this might be a trojan dynasty. That's going to last a long time. Fourteen gene seasons have gone by since the trojans won their last national title almost a decade and a half after throttling oklahoma the pure joy on caroline matt liners faces feels like a distant memory college football is better if troy is mighty the trojans finished five and seven losing record heard for the first time since two thousand when you have a five and seven season that you won't and you only yourself as the leader the pressure to get back to those championship wave continued to mount in l. A. flying heath to clayton's already hot feet. Many fans expected to be gone after a five and seven season with losses to the crosstown rival u._c._l._a. As well as notre dame in texas helton were spared n._s. Players have already noticed a change saying. It's no more mister nice guy yesterday. Yes the the got turned up a little bit kids love to be coached and they look to be coached nicer not he needs to win now. Go tilton through his early early. Success at u._s._c. wasn't just paying star quarterback sam darnold who need the help of new play caller grand peril and his air raid offense toward the goal like brought by touchdown the children's return one of the nation's top receiving cores and quarterback j. t. daniels for his sophomore season the even the coliseum got a three hundred and fifteen million dollar facelift. Just more proof sets the trojans are itching to reassert their powerhouse status in college football's the the big question. We'll clay helton still be the one leading u._s._d. Into the grand old lady in two thousand twenty all right so they lost seven seven games last year their first losing season since two thousand nine the trojans most single season losses since nineteen ninety one caesar's right now as u s seven seven to one to win the pac twelve best in the conference of the expectations not high enough and with bobby still here wondering dan orlovsky in from bristol as well to have this conversation and let's talk about what's going on at u._s._c. What do you expect out there this year because we mentioned it before the peace. Clay helton is probably coaching for his job. I expect u._s._c. to have a really big bounce back year. You know if you look back at last year u._s._c. lost four games and when they had double digit leads and i understand losses or losses but they were actually playing better than the record showed that they were. They had a true freshman playing quarterback that played like a true freshman now that true freshman n._j._i._t. Daniels is a year older and it got graham heroin. They're as their offensive coordinator who in the last two years at north texas they had like four hundred sixty yards a game of offense offense thirty five points per game and he turned mason fine into one of the better quarterbacks in college football so i expect him to have that profound impact on j. J. daniels there wide wide. Receiving core is absolutely loaded probably one of the best in the country so it'll be <hes> early september we'll know greenie because they play stanford week to at home in and then utah at home september twentieth and they've lost their last three games at home so it will be an important september for u._s._c. fair enough. Let's just live in a world where it doesn't go in that direction and by no l. means anyone rooting for that. You know where i'm going bob cooper. I'm looking right at you mr columbus ohio. If this thing doesn't go well clay helton early. The name urban meyer is going to come up. What do you think i think it's a name that there's probably a lot of logical ties. If you look since pete carroll they really haven't had any sustained success there steve sarkissian occasion. You'll get klay helen. They've been able to do some good things they've had intermittent pieces of success there but they haven't had that sustained success which is what u._s._c. those are their expectations expectations and so they have to find a way to be able to do that and then mentioned the early schedule and you're bringing in graham harrell who i really liked. You're gonna change the offense up going away from team martin but those expectations are going away early and don't think that the u._s. alums and especially some of the former players reggie bush matt liners guys that are my age if they start the season and there are two and three that they're not going to be banging the drums out there in l._a. To get this thing turned over to someone else that someone else could very well wind up. Being one of the highest profile coaches is in recent memory. Let me go onto something else. Who want to get your take on because there was a quote from dan sweeney yesterday. They got a lot of attention and i want to put it up on the screen here. We're talking about their title game win over alabama and he said quote. I know people say alabama was tired because they went through. The grind had to play all these teams well. They won by an average of thirty three point two game so they ought to be well rested. My thing on that is are you serious. They're tired then you look at clemson. We won twelve games by twenty plus who really challenged alabama and the s._e._c. they they didn't get challenged by anybody until the georgia game so those again are comments from davos sweeney. What are the comments from. Dan orlovsky daboh spot on here's the reality in the national title game clemson just smacked alabama that they were the better team that day more talented coached. They played better on that day. Alabama has prided itself and become the program that they one of the things that has separated them as their fourth quarter training now all of a sudden. That's not going to be part of it. We're gonna make excuses for the giant of college football alabama. They just got beat by better team that day. If you look back at alabama season to play seven fourth quarters seven fourth quarters. I didn't weren't challenged their closest game before georgia was november tenth twenty four nothing handling a mississippi state so i wanna know why people won't say we'll clemson didn't any plainy buddy so surprising that they were able to get themselves up to play alabama or i think two things can be true in this situation. Dabo sweeney is obviously stumping for his conference day and that makes complete sense but the other piece of it is i think clemson's the best football team in the country and that was obvious but the a._c._c. is probably one of the worst congresses right there with the pac ten so both those things can be accurate clemson can be fantastic and data wants to go out there and stump because if they should stumble this year in one of those a._c._c. conference games. It's going to be a difficult task for them to <unk> overcome unless they're blowing everybody out. If you saw our football power index note the other day on our program they give clemson in eighty four percent chance to make get to the college football playoff. It's it's ludicrous. I mean that's i've never seen anything like that with the team. So the expectations there are overwhelming and part of that does come from the conference. Let me switch it up to the national football league here because dan orlovsky wanna get your perspective on this as well. We're going to talk about mitch trubisky in chicago entering his third preseason with the bears and it appears he's going to have more freedom and even bigger role in his team's offense. The matt nagy said quote we have big picture is going to be some balls in here. There's interceptions. I said it last last year. We don't get frustrated over that. We're testing some things out so the next stage in trubisky's development and i want to start with you and then i wanna get diana in on this but then what would that look like that bears offence. This is a team that won a lot of games last year. Defense was really good and opportunistic. What would it look like to have a more wide. Open enroll for trubisky in that offense well. The biggest thing is understanding. You can use this as an analogy we wrote our kids are at some point we all most of us have kids and a big part of being a kid. Our kid's right now. How is they want to figure out what they can get away with. What can they do that. They don't have to deal with the consequences envelope. Can they push and that's where trubisky is doing right. Now is trying to find more windows downfield instead of being the game manager that we call it or taking the easier. Throw figuring out ken. I fit that ball on there. You watch clips against that game in the playoffs last year that drive that led to that mess kicked by cody poetry he fits some balls in there that kind of he wasn't willing or courageous enough take during the regular season and that's part of his training camp right now is finding out. What can i get away with as a passer that allows me go to the next level without having to deal with the consequence of say a turnover interception type thing interesting you use the word turnover and interception because that's what we're seeing a lot of at camp right now and i know bears fans is are freaking out especially on twitter thinking that maybe this offense is taking a step back and i just think it's really interesting because here we are in the second year of coach nagy running the offense and we know that nagy a disciple of andy reid and last summer when patrick mahomes was in his second year learning the andy reid offense all camp long interception interception interception and if you look at some of the comments that coach has been making they sound just like andy route did last summer when he was dealing with a home so they're trying to give him the courage right now to take those to be a decision maker at this point because like you just mentioned he wasn't taking those chances win being needed him to do it. Come playoff. You're confident. Are you confident. I'm not necessarily comfortable to two things he needs to work on. Timing in anticipation accuracy tried to help blend those things together. He's twenty third in the n._f._l. And deep balls and then that's just the reality of it now played better in at the end of the season but it at the beginning year he was missing in that you can talk. All you want about the interceptions in other things don't matter he was talking about pat mahomes guy who'd never really played in the n._f._l. Before at sat behind alex smith you're talking about a guy going into third n._f._l. Season he needs to be more confident. He's athletic. He's keepers is down the field and continue to develop in progress because because i love the past he made late in the game against the philadelphia eagles in the playoffs fantastic windows that ball in there along the quarter and it was a fantastic shot but you so you see more of that comes with the consistency not a guy. You can't really make the place down the fan here fifteen seconds go. Here's a big thing. Mitchell trubisky needs to not think of protecting the football because we protect things that we don't wanna hurt value the football and that's what matt nagy is trying to get him to understand you can still be aggressive and push the ball downfield instill value at the same mm time. That's his next step. I love the lingo maybe he got drafted ahead of mahomes and ahead of deshaun watson be interesting to see where that goes all right. We'll take a break as we continue here on. Get the n._f._l. Draft in two thousand twenty s loaded with quality quarterback. Trevor lawrence won't be one of them. Wait until you hear what mike tannenbaum thinks. Trevor might consider doing between now and then plus it sean mcvay getting too much credit for the rams success and too much blame for its failures. How 'bout jared goff. We'll talk about that and more as we continue bud. I little trivia for we're here this morning. We're talking. It will return their leading passer the leading rusher leading receiver for last year. Who was the last national champion to do that. That's the question. The answer is next on e._s._p._n. Our back on get up by. I be carpenters. Got the pressure on them. Clinton returns. It's leading passer russia in receiver from last year. Who was the last national champ to do that. I wanna say if we're going to give you a see the split in two thousands four. I'm going to go with the trojans in his actually happened more recently than than two thousand ten alabama brought back greg mcelroy mark ingram and julio oh jones they went ten and three the following year. I like it when they get it wrong. Okay let's run the opposite with mike tannenbaum in our studio taking a look at some of the top college quarterbacks wondering where they will project the next level. Let's start with jake jake from is a good quarterback that has to get better throwing the ball downfield greenie his arm strength is average bridge at best is completion percent goes down to thirty percent. We throws it more than twenty yards down the field but he beat out <hes> justin fields. Who is the number one recruit a year ago so nope look for him to improve his arm strength the season very big year for him and talk about what time go via level is. The most talked about player in the sport last year. How do you project them right right now. He's a first rounder probably a top ten pick. He came on the national scene two years ago when he had the game against georgia in overtime greatly fall pro or great anticipation like you got a little bit stronger so we can withstand the rigors of an n._f._l. Sees the slow down towards the end of last year. When the competition stepped up he stepped back. How much of a concern was that a little live concert again. I think he has to get a little bit bigger a little bit store and he did take a lot of hits that that's a good point and then let's talk about justin herbert from oregon lot of people's applies. She didn't go pro last year. How good is he well. I'll tell you this he he has a good body at good frame. Fifty nine percent completion percentage reading that has to get better and the eyes of the college football world will be opening day when you get to see him against auburn an s._e._c. defense and pac twelve go in against a really good defense in auburn and that will go a long way and seen him or two and i like her a lot because i like his body. I like his mechanics and his game really translates. Well that auburn games can be important right now. You project tim to be the number. One pick do all of that open to change obviously yeah i do because from behind he has a big frame. It looks like rothlisberger again. Your point about two or there are some questions about how we play last year and he's a smaller frame guy so between the two herbert's game and by translates burned to the pro level as of now now we know that the guy who almost everyone thinks is the best quarterback will will not be the first pick in next year's draft and that's clemson's trevor lawrence because he's a sophomore and he's not eligible for another year and you floated towards me an interesting idea what to make it clear. We're not suggesting we expect this to happen but a path trevor lawrence could choose to take if he wants to have bits week man icon a businessman and promoter sitting up in stamford connecticut etiquette about to launch the x._f._l. Right now the n._f._l. Has a rule that you have to be out of high school for three years before you're eligible to play in the n._f._l. Right what an unbelievable opportunity if you're over locked ahead of the x._f._l. And vince mcmahon the owner of the x._f._l. To say we're gonna take the most transcendent college football player and and put in front of lee. I'm not saying that's gonna happen but those are. The discussions are having and because of that three year old reading it's an opportunity and what a great businesses the business the business men do they take advantage of opportunities and lawrence could be a guy that could be the face of the x._f._l. Not saying it's going to happen but that's a conversation assist. I'm old enough to remember when guys like reggie white. Jim kelly played in the u._s. F. l. There's an opportunity here for him to make a bunch of money at a time when he wouldn't otherwise be able to get paid paid at all again. Do i think this is going to happen absolutely not. I don't think you think it's going to happen but at certain interesting concept though it really is again you couldn't fault them if he did do it from a standpoint one of hey it's generational wealth for his family and a year from now. Are we talking about the new n._f._l. Rule that says hey we're only going to be out two years now in terms of having eligibility so again i'm not saying it's likely it's going to happen. I'm just saying that's a conversation. That will be out there to be clear. It's not an n._c. Double a rule. It is an n._f._l. Rule it has been challenged as recently as maurice in the last decade and it has stood up in court. It's really well done new. Let us run the basis. Go around with some baseball. Here's start with the minnesota. Twins had a little bit of deja vu on wednesday they turn and a five. They were three big triple. Play turned a similar trip of white just over two weeks ago against the yankees so that was good but it wasn't all good for the twins. They start to watch the lead. The american league central slip away braves four home runs against them and won eleven to seven yesterday. Freddy freeman homered as allies went twice so it was a big day on the offensive side meanwhile while the twins lost the indians continued their climb back into the race. They swept a doubleheader over the rangers. Thanks to a home run in each game from jose ramirez in so where do we stand in the american league central because there aren't that many really tight divisions with the indian sweeping their double header against the rangers. They're just two games behind the twins for the top spot. In the central there were still ten head to head matchup routine those two teams remaining with the first starting today all all right back to some more football here this time of the pro variety of the rams and raiders participated in a joint practice yesterday fourteen getting prepared for the start of the season rams coach sean mcveigh excited about the progress of quarterback jared goff. Here's what he said the ownership that we want in the extension of the coaching staff he certainly demonstrated needed that where he's able to really command a lot where he's kind of just taking it running with it. He understands the intent what we want to get done and then i think the natural off schedule plays those are just you know a guy being a a great playmaker steps. Tell it all really much say went to super bowl last year. We went to the playoffs here before we didn't so it was understood on gotta be explained. It's fully in tune to the offense to the defense to box the checks the protections i think he's fooling into all that stuff now so he's definitely taking his next level okay so i would have. I thought it impossible that a quarterback could be the number one pick in the draft. Take a team to a superbowl three years later and get disgust as little as jared goff is talked about why is no one ever talks about jared goff whether good or bad right. We're looking at the super bowl and you had the super bowl game. Brandin cooks his wide open in the back of the end zone they they finally schema play open jared goff latoya them mccourty breaks it up and no one talks about it's all about bill belichick's mastery over showing mcvay but if you go right to the week before jared goff makes two extremely took place on boot routes in overtime gap in new orleans and we give all of that credit to show mcvay as well. It's like like this deal was the valedictorian he was the homecoming king the prom king and then so mcveigh has still gotten most likely to succeed when we were voting. It's one of those things things that it's like. He's he's just pretty enough. He's just handsome enough. He's just smart enough to never be talked about and it's one of those things that carson wentz became the guy and and now jared goff who has led the team to a super bowl is a quarterback who never get spoken about amongst the league. When you talk about patrick mahomes they want people talking about whether did they would move on from him and bring in another inexpensive option at the quarterback position and part of that goes the fact that sean mcvay is this genius and not to mention the fact. He's incredibly handsome so you kind of marry sorry. Those things together mesmerized with everything. It's funny. It's entertaining but that's that's kind of the reality of it. The second piece that i look at people forget like jared goff he wasn't drafted after by sean mcvay br brought by fish jeff fisher and so you forget how bad like he couldn't get on the field. You're struggling. It's the people begin to wonder well. Maybe it's the fact that they thank you just have any quarterback in the expectations of the number. One overall pick got trampled down so early. The people were just kind of looking at him. As if like a third round guy they just threw in there yeah and he he was poor when he first started we played at the dolphins in his first game he was poor and his first season five touchdowns and seven interceptions so i would say that shaw mcveigh's getting the credit because without him jared goff has proven that he could be successful now. Maybe he could be but the jeff fisher jared goff was below add the other the other fun of it is too two. That's like saying tom brady hasn't proven he can be successful without bill. You know sometimes those coaches those the coach quarterback marriage works very well for for some players and i believe going to hard not right heaven to watch jared goff struggled through that first training camp. These are some of the things that people can't get out of their mind and when sean mcveigh comes along and you see this new offense we've never seen he presents his intellect to us in the way like we've never seen a coach. Do we're really overlooking some some of the throw some of the plays in the work it is taken for jared goff to do himself to have this team and himself individually where they only quarterback. He's not in the way to be. He's not an elite quarterback but he can definitely he's definitely on his way to one and also look at some of the guys we consider elite and where they were headed into their fourth year jared goff's ahead of a lot of them in accomplishments individually and is the team final word. I don't think he has elite talent but i think it can be very good. Function quarterback is not mahomes. He's not once launching any function. You know the first overall pick. I look at the numbers you know what you can do. If there was a message in all all of this is that sometimes to be talented and handsome is a really complicated combination. Take it from one who knows world series at sportscenter bucci and anderson in highlights and reactions from all n._f._l. Preseason games that are eleven tonight how the saints of the n._f._c. championship locked behind them and breakdown of tigers first round to start the fedex cup playoff got sportscenter after the little league world series on e._s._p._n. When we continue here comes kyle. What are the expectations for the number one pick as he makes his preseason debut tonight. Get e._s._p._n.
Hour 1: National Championship Recap
"There's going on. I take Sam catches weekdays ten AM eastern to noon on ESPN. Lots of head today. Clemson wins the college football championships. So is this the beginning of a dynasty and why and the world happened to Nick Sabin to en-? Bama. We break it down with a ton of analysts also to the Packers spine the coach to take Aaron Rodgers back to the Super Bowl. Let's do it. Started this wheel predicted it. What's going on everybody? Welcome into. I take Molly care here. We Stephen a Smith and max Kellerman. And also, we have if in college football, Marcus spears, joining us from Kelley what's going on, Marcus. We'll sub crew. I'm just checking in on everybody. Everybody do all well in SaaS go come up today. I'm not going to say the world ended, Marcus. But I got admit I I mean, I sat up there. My mouth is usually open because I'm talking my mouth was open. I didn't say a damn word last night. I'm sitting there like you got to be kidding. I can't believe what upset I didn't. I didn't think for them to lose which I thought was possible. If if if Trevor Lawrence wasn't a true freshman, I would've taken Clemson. I thought this was the year. He has a good show. Like, the Shawn Watson did. And then next year. He comes back and gets them. So they could possibly win which would be impressive enough but to kick their teeth in to kit. Let's get right into it guys because there's a whole lot to unpack here. So obviously. Money was walked in Vegas last night. Max just mentioned it freshman quarterback. Trevor Lawrence pass for three hundred and forty seven yards. Three touchdowns is Clemson wanted. Second college football playoff champion of crushing the tide forty four to sixteen. I still can't believe it Clemson is the first team in the people era dating back to nineteen thirty six to finish fifteen in. Oh, Marcus is if fair to say Clemson is stealing the torch from Bama. That will be the next up. I mean, there's always look in Max's line of work and Steven A and what they've been doing in him in the NBA. There's always a next man up and could we possibly be seeing that transition? Absolutely. But here's the thing. Everybody needs to keep this in perspective. Yes, it was a blowout loss excited for Clemson. Then that both Sweeney's program and what they're doing. Nick Sabin has six championships. I we were having conversations about Nick Sabin being the greatest football coach ever. That's why to me this is so puzzling. Because they got out coach they got beat the sleep on the field, but they were beat the sleep on the sidelines as well. Clemson's coaches staff approached his game like it was a personal vendetta against the Gaza. Cross the sideline and it manifested till forty four to sixteen ending of a game. So it is a part of what the process is. And everybody wants to get to the top of the mountain and the dude at the top of the mountain where he gets knocked off is a law. Long way down and it changes the perspective for everybody. So that's what we're seeing right now. But let's let's pump the brakes on still in the torch at the moment, Alabama. Oh, yes. One and national championship last year, Marcus are not pumping nothing. I'm not pumping the brakes at all. I'm putting the pedal to the metal. Let me tell everybody something right now that was as I told you before the game had the chance to be. It was an era altering game. One game is going has already altered our perception of this entire era. And I will explain this was so thoroughly the Alabama Arab because as you mentioned, and I'm not Nick Sabin still the best coach greatest college football coach of all time all those things, but this era was so thoroughly Alabama because from week one every single season since the preseason. They're the best team. They stay the best team the whole season. And if anyone happens to beat them for the title once in a blue moon that is an upset for Alabama's gonna be right back there again that following season. Right. So this was as three. Solely Alabama's era as it's been any era for any team in any sport. College were bro in the history of American team sports. And then suddenly last night. Something happened where a year from now guys one year from now we may be sitting here realizing, oh, wait a minute. This was the Clemson arrow all along. Don't forget. They're returning their true freshman quarterback and underclassmen essentially, hold on a second underclassmen, those are young players that they're returning. And the reason I say all along guys is because what changed five years ago? What difference has there been college football playoff? Since the advent of the college football playoff Clemson has won as many titles as Alabama. Since the advent of the playoffs if they take a lead three two two next year, particularly if it's head to head re will realize that the playoff era, so far has been the story not of Alabama of cleansing that is an era defining win certainly an offering win last night while listen assaults from the standpoint that all we've been talking about is Alabama. Had them five four three two one as dabbles pointed out earlier in the week before the national championship game. Because that's how dominant Alabama has been this year in clearly Clemson has snatched at torch in that regard. I think here's the way. I would look at it max Clemson to me saved college football last night. And I'm not engaging in our purposely by saying that because all we've been talking about his Alabama. We remember the thirty five points, South Carolina dropped on. Clemson. We remember how Syracuse gave them a run for their money losing twenty seven to twenty three. We remember Texas am dropping twenty six on them. Earlier this year and JIMBO fishes first year. We saw those things we looked at the schedule. And we said, you know, what clemson's a good team, but Alabama's on another level with Davos Sweeney showed us last night is that he's been waiting all year long to coach against this man, Nick Sabin and Alabama crimson tide. And so when I look at it from that perspective, and I'm thinking about the monopoly that Alabama has had overcome. College football. And now you've got Clemson who's won two national titles within the last four years going up against Alabama all four years. I think it's at tickets sensational for college football. And I also think in this sense last night. There was a positive and a negative believe it or not to dick save it the positive is that when you get annihilated like that all of this stuff. No matter how much do winning by how Nick Sabin stays on everybody. How he's known as a commodity to some degree constantly berate constantly going after it. So intense never relaxed moment, we have just we've decried that from Tom, Tom. We see. Now why he's that way because you can never take any time off. You can never assume anything you could never take anything for granted. And that's incredible less than for them to learn. That's the positive than Reagan. However is that when you look at saving this like wow to lose like that. And to get out coach like you. You pointed out Marcus, the dad is a bad bad moment. This is a bad day for it because the invincibility clearly, but stripped, no doubt is is terrible. Stephen, I agree with you. But I I gotta go to back to max max who has the of the two national championships. Alabama obama. Okay. All right. So we we saw a game last night that was very lopsided. And I wanna give Clemson all the credit that they deserve. They deserve to have a lot of credit in this game for what they did on the field Mex. But you're not that guy. You're living in the moment right now. I think about what happened to Clemson last year. And everybody was and this was an anemic Alabama offense that Clemson lawsuit last year. I get that credit for making the move to travel Lawrence. They had a senior lane defense. Nobody's talking about Cleveland Farrell Austin brand Kristin Wilkinson Dexter Lord's own might be going to the NFL next year. So we continue to talk about Clemson. And yes, they will be they'll be a very good team. But now they're about to start going through the same rigors that Alabama has been going on the store lose go. I'm not saying they took it from him yet. I'm saying look look since fifteen since the Alabama and Clemson same record fifty five and four. Playoff appearances, four same titles too. So what I'm saying is they caught him there in the playoff era extended behind in the playoff error there even and now I'm saying I favor Clemson going forward because they have the best quarterback in college football who was a true freshman this year, and that has that experience, and they return a tremendous number of freshman and sophomore players, and you can see Davos Sweeney head-to-head with Nick Sabin is at least equal in the last four or five years. So when I'm saying is. It could be over. Mexican-made should is at any point during the year. Did you say to talk about all the what's the best quarterback in college football early on? Yes. Early on. Yes. Okay. So we saw. Lawrence Gordon early. No, it was Chuck drapes. Rever Lawrence has been the presumptive best quarterback. And weeks and weeks. What I'm not? Not true paying attention. That's not what you said. Go ahead go. There was between to the conversation was between Tula and Cuyler. I and the reason why I'll give you some some background analysis on me because I'm like both of you guys. I'm easy to admit when I'm wrong since two thousand seven a freshman quarterback hadn't beaten, Nick Sabin. And I looked at this game. And I said to myself. Yes. Trevor Lawrence has been great. Yes. Trevor Lawrence was the move that dabble made to make this team better and pushed him forward as far as pushing the ball downfield because he knew he will have a passing have to have a passing game that move was made because two of our older was Alabama. I don't care what that both Sweeney says he understood that that was a step. He will have to take in order to compete. But everybody now is saying Trevor Lawrence is the better quarterback. Look trouble Lawrence has a bright future. He'll probably be the first pick of the NFL draft and twenty twenty in his junior year. But let's not forget because a last night what the. Say say revolve around Steven Steven is intimating that I'm doing revisionist history here. No, I think that's actually revisionist history to to start the season certainly was considered the best. And to certainly on the Alabama team seemed to give them something that Jalen hurts didn't it's like now, it's just unfair. Because they have this great quarterback. We don't think he's great. He's going to be great on the next level to all that put about by about halfway through this season. Trevor Lawrence took over as the consensus guy who eventually would probably be the number one pick. And with probably the best players the issue with him was that he was a true freshman. He didn't have the experience that was the issue. So that was a surprise freshman. Well, first of all, I think to different in terms of the gauge revision this history. What I'm saying that you is. I'm not saying you talk down about Trump belongs. I'm saying you barely ever mentioned him. It was Baucus was right. And it was about to where let's take. Because of w I ain't even I don't even recall you talking about Trump Laura's. That nobody did. And that's fine. That's not just let's take because of telling you I want. I don't recall all right now, Marcus biz let me get back to you because hold on. Hold on. Right now, there's not that important. Here's the deal taught to me about two or four second. Because how are we supposed to look at to a market based on what we saw left. I don't to ninety five. I sorta to interceptors. That's sorta pick six early. I saw them getting his face. I saw I saw a man coming at him and rattling him the first time really that. I've seen him rattled tell me what you saw. And how you think of to it today compared to how you looked at him prior to last night's game. Stew. Everybody thought tool was invincible. Right. It was two parts right down here covering it. In southeast one point was we had never seen anything like that at Alabama the quarterback position. And we hadn't seen Alabama be a pass first team creating with the RPO. So that's number one. Everybody got excited about that. Number two is Georgia gave the blueprint to how you defend against two. You don't give up the big play. And you make him go Dink and dunk all the way down the field. The one time in the game where they gave up the plate achier Judy. The defense coordinator Brent Venables say it I'll be damned if I give up another explosive play down the field. I know what kind of armed is do I know what he's done all season long. So they kept everything in front of them. They call some plays defensive the trap the interception of pick six. Yes. It was a brand throw granted. But that was called a trap by the cornerback to expected them to be one place corner set on the route. He then took it back for pick six. Here's the thing. Man. Nick save. Been will he might not admit this? And I have a lot of respect for what? Mike Loxley did dolphins accord native for Alabama this year, Nick Sabin may not admit this. But Nick Sabin got a little bit out of who he is as a head coach. If you go back and look at the numbers in his they were four for twelve on third down. They rushed the ball for four point eight yards per carry. And they still continue to throw the football. And the reason they got and I don't care what anybody else says is because they were trying to air to football out. So would there be saying when you look at going into this next season? I guarantee you these conversations will revolve around not only coach stab, but the philosophy which we wanna win football games. But when it comes the tour man, he's been tremendous that who was sitting in New York with column, and nobody was talking about Trevor Lord's being better than to true. Nobody. Remark. Max did you say Lawrence was better than to fail? Before this game halfway through this season. I set on this show that he was going to be the presumptive number one pick. Eventually look Trevor Lawrence. Nobody knows saying I'm not disputing that. But but did you say he was a better quarterback? I don't know why Stephen Asia instead. But bet sick in my head. Listen, they find the tape. I'll apologize on NASA stuff. I don't even recall you mentioned trouble. To take such though this show, your Punchdrunk. Now, listen, I got you. This is one of his head to tug of Loa is certainly had that thing the reason we were all crazy about him was not just that he's on Alabama. And he's the quarterback. It wasn't that. He had the biggest storm in the world. But he's really accurate, and he gave us that feeling that sense of leadership. Like he has that that it's actor. I'm not saying we knew that about Trevor Lawrence. I did not know that about Trevor Lawrence all I knew was the physical tools of Trevor Lawrence the eye-opener here. And you can't know that about a guy until you've seen him. Do it like even if he would have had a great game in a losing effort. I'd be saying that about Trevor Lawrence. Now, I'm asking you did what you see from Trevor Lawrence last night was that an issue of scheming and coaching, and that sort of thing or do you believe he has it the way Shawn Watson had it? Forget about the physical tools for a second maximum one hundred percent, which he has it. Okay. But let's think about two things like, let's go football. 'cause I know we like to. Fight on this show. And we talk about it one play Savion Smith. I think pops his achilles guys wide open. Ross breaks it down the sideline another plate. We not even talking about Ross the one hand catch. He made on the sideline. That was not a great throw. I'm not trying to take anything away for trouble loans for all his players may plays on the poise that trouble Lawrence had to me was the most impressive thing in the face of pressure. With guys Barron down he stood in the pocket and delivered the football. And I get that vote for that Bill new this. I'll talk the devil a couple years ago, and he talked about Trevor Lawrence while he was trying to get the on campus. He said he was that type of player I just had the seed against Alabama and Nick Sabin. And what I've seen him do to senior Laden quarterbacks happened in this game. I am. As thoroughly impressed as anybody else. What Trevor Lawrence did last night? But let's not get carried away and act like this has been a conversation all year loan about trip. Lors problem. Marcus Trevor said, I'm with you forget forget trip along split-second though. Let's go to raw let's go to Ross because of the point that max was trying to make and I wanna buffer his point in this regard is it possible. That one of the biggest reasons why we could potentially be seeing change at a God. We don't want to overreact to for to both of them got to national championships in the last four years. We get it but Clemson via right there alternately potentially grasping. The mantle. Justin Rose is an Alabama guy with the central Alabama high school from Alabama was recruited by Alabama. Didn't make a decision until the last possible moment which was the morning of and he chose Clemson over Alabama when we Lord and praise Nick Sabin so much. We don't just talk about his coaching. We talk about his recruiting. But when you see you got guys now going to Alabama taking talented from Alabama to bring elsewhere, isn't that Indica? Of a change go potentially when it materializes. It's a national championship. That that is more of an indication than anything, and I take you even a step further Kerber smarter in Georgia's. Well, he's taking players out of the same areas that Nick Sabin used to own that is the lifeblood when we talk all we talk recruiting as the lifeblood the thing that stood out to me matching Stephen eight is that Clemson had better athletes on feel yesterday, which we have not seen for a long time. But with that being said like we talked about earlier now we see the retool is the same question I had about Gurbuz more Georgia. Can you sustain think about it last year in the Rose Bowl Kirby? Smart took a senior Laden team and be Baker Mayfield and pushed Alabama to the brink. And obviously I'll Abam was able to come back this year, they pushed Alabama SEC championship. So it seems to me that they are going to keep this pipeline going. So if it's any indication about Daboh, Clemson a change in gore is because of the players that they're putting on. The football. Clemson as the hunt did now because they've done something to Alabama. No one years, which is like we are their equal. Maybe even pulling ahead. Let me I want to touch on something that you brought up when you when you said like the receivers were making these great plays because it reminded me the Shawn Watson same sort of thing. He was getting the ball where he had to have enormous faith like a pro quarterback in his receivers in his teammates. And something occurred to me watching Davos Sweeney's post-game talking, you know, listening to him. He's a very religious guy. He talked a lot about faith and those guys seem to play with a lot of faith in one another not just this team. But this program we saw it with the Shawn Watson, even the first go round against Alabama in the rematch against Alabama which saw it again last night. The guys played with great faith in each other and expect he expected his receivers. Trevor Lawrence did to make awesome pro style catches last night that seems to me wondering how you feel about this to come from the Hague. Coach it's not just recruiting. It's the kind of culture that he's built there. No question makes built a great coach. And the same thing to be saying because you make a great point nobody steps on the field with the perceived monster of Alabama and becomes the Munster like we hadn't seen that. And that's what Clemson Clemson came into the stadium saying you gotta catch us. You have to match what we're gonna do tonight. We're going to create the big plays. We're gonna pressure your quarterback we go turn the football over our defenses, go show up and get more pressure. That's the thing that really was shocking to me last night for the first time in a long time. The monster was not weighed crimson and white the muster was Clemson. And that was like you say earlier in the show. That's a great thing for college football. It is so wonderful to have somebody else that can look like the monster. Because if this game would have been one thirty four thirty one we would have still say well, Alabama didn't make a couple of plays and they got stopped in the red zone and they were short, but we. Expect them to come back next year beat the same team forty four sixteen changes who to monster is. So every kid that's going to look under the bay open a door in the closet. Football is going to be Clemson staring at you now as opposed to Alabama based on what happened last night. To fail rail all the lead monster was born in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine the last time a true freshman national championship eighty five on believable this kid showed. And he's what six six bright future. I got I gotta say I gotta say this real quick. First of all it's nice to see now, a monster that Nick Sabin. We'll have to chase that's gonna make as being the other way around. The other thing is I got I got one of my boys. And you know, I'm on national television. I actually block them because he gets on my damn nerve. Because he thinks he knows everything what. But he did say at the beginning of the season. Clemson was going beat Alabama for the national championship. My boy champ congratulates I'm not real block in the beginning. I'm gonna go back to block in the because he's on eight. You do that markets. We appreciate you. Thank you for all the insight. Tremendous right now. Thanks, mark. Everyone. This is sportscenter right now month, the Collins with some NFL coaching news cliff Kingsbury today for the cardinals head coaching job that according to our insider, Adam Schefter Kingsbury had been blocked from interviewing with NFL teams by US after taking their offense coordinator job last month. The jets are also reportedly interested in talking with him in other news lean bay the Packers found their new head coach Matt leflore sources tell ESPN's Adam Schefter and robbed him off sqi. The thirty nine year old spend this past season his office coordinator Bob explains why the Packers pig leflore. Thirty nine year old the floor one over the Packers with his expertise on offense. And the idea that he'll be able to get Rogers back to an MVP level and back to another Super Bowl. As one source said getting Rogers to mesh and buy in with the new head coach was the most important thing in making the higher and the Packers brass love. What leflore did as Matt Ryan quarterbacks? Coach in Atlanta where Shanahan was the offensive coordinator. And as Jared goff's offense coordinator with the Ran's where McVeigh was the head coach and the floor got the much-needed playcalling experience last season in Tennessee as their offensive coordinator. And now he's the next Packers head coach for more has her stakes. All right. Looks like Aaron Rodgers will have himself an offensive guy quarterbacks. Coach there in the leflore. Ryan Clark in house. Good to see you doing. I'm good. Stephen I'll start with you. Do you like the higher for your boy, I'm not gonna say whether I like it or not because honestly don't know because I don't know much about this guy. What I'm going to say is this somebody help me understand. Boy, is it. Good to see you today. Right. You know, what max debit has good to see you too. I'm lost. I am lost is somebody. Listen, Matt leflore, whoever you are. Congratulations nothing. But the best to you. Tony nine years of age. We got off this accordion, even though he was supposed to be offense coordinator in L A with Rams lash. Jan, but you left there. I guess Sean bay was calling the plays. Obviously, you wanna go someplace else to prove your muscle. I get all of that. And I appreciate the fact that somebody new is in the mix not the same old same old dude coming through all right fine new opportunity for you. I wish you nothing. But the best you lucked up your got Amer Rogers as your quarterback. Here's where I'm host. The titans often. This is who you are the offensive coordinator that is been chosen coach. Coach did Rogers at talent wide the best as concern that I've ever seen. The offense coordinator that she will. Hi. Had the twenty seventh ranked offense twenty fifth in points. The twenty ninth ranked passing attack. That's the guy. My mythic. Listen again, man, the flu wherever you are not. I'm not knocking him at all, please. I don't know. I don't know. All I'm saying is this. This. Happen. I'm like, wait a minute. So Amran Rogers me around I know. I know I'm just for the moment, a mobile, I see. You see the heavens. Flinging football with no problem. I have a problem to the point where Mike McCarthy who's a Super Bowl champion who I went to the playoffs eight straight years with I don't want to listen to to the point where he's sending plays. And I'm ignoring him. But you're answering the remedy that is a guy who had the twenty ninth right back the question and excuse my naivety might be totally there were. Oh there were days. This is a beautiful. Thank you. Is. There any way that he was consulted the Aaron Rodgers in terms of who they were bringing in that he was apart him where he no, I'm serious. They say they weren't going to involve Aaron Ron let me answer. Let me answer that question. When people in Green Bay that I've spoken to over the last year and a half. Yeah. They told me one time Amerada dislike two three years ago walked into the office. I don't know whether it was Ted Thompson and want. Whereas I forgot who it was. And they told him get the hell about the office. You play we run the franchise. So have you treated him like that will fall to three years ago? I find it very hard to believe that he didn't have input. They did they defied the same strength of the five as quarterback coach without even tell them. That's true. But then that got him into issue. Eventually he they got rid of the coach he wanted gun because because pressure bus pipes. Maybe it's not the right expression. But the idea is like or if it wasn't for the last minute nothing would ever get. How do I say they see they see the horizons for him art as long anymore, and now they have pressure against the twenty ninth. But let me just accentuate it the worst pats at attack. Look, he's office. And he got the job. I don't know if it's the right hire. Or not either. Right. I will say it's the right resume. This is the resume. You wanna see from a higher? What you don't want to see is like what the giants did the giants gave into kind of the worst impulses of conservatism. There are many good impulses of conservatism, but a bad impulses. This gives me the feeling of something. I'm familiar with Pat Shurmur is the kind he's cattleman. These are the grand they're talking the talk that feels good to me because it sounds familiar. I'll that's that's comfortable unthinking. This is a thinking man's higher. So why is that he's the quarterbacks coach for Matt Ryan when that Ryan wins the MVP and almost wins the Super Bowl he is the offensive coordinator for Sean McVeigh when they turn that whole thing around running play action with Jared Goff and Todd Gurley when they got Wentworth tackle, though, you look at Nagy you look at Shanahan you look at the look at McVay look at the coaches who are having success. They're young dynamic play colours who were offense of coordinators, and they were forward-looking that appears on resin. May that appears to be what Aaron Rodgers is getting and so based on the resume, it's the right? Kind of like, I feel you when you look at the paper, right? When you hold it the resume in front of the you say, oh, he was he had met Ryan. Oh, he had Jerry golfing a year. He turned it around. But what you would that paper doesn't say is. Yeah, Kyle Shanahan. Write the paper doesn't say you showing Vate. And so I'm also on the side of Stephen oh watch. Tennessee titans. It didn't look creative. Right. And you speak about a forward thinking higher than the all fits didn't look forward thinking, Marcus Mary. Marcus mariota wasn't a revolution was is. This was a revelation. This wasn't a guy who has a second. Overall. The draft started to a sin to even be in the top two tiers of passing quarterback on other side of it. I say this in this in people may disagree. When Mike Tomlin walked into the office of the Rooney's his book. And said, you know, what I want to be the head coach I want to put myself I wanna put my head into in the race for the head coach of the Pittsburgh stews. He wasn't the favorite, right? He'd only been coordinator for one year. He'd only ran a defense in Minnesota. So sometimes it's not necessarily about the exit knows. And I think we get caught up in that because of Frank right right because of Doug Peterson because of Matt Nagy the way that Sean McVeigh needs different guys have affected too offense from play caller perspective. Sometimes it's the personality. Sure. Right. The genitalia, and it was obvious the John Hall balls of the world who was a special teams coach, right? But he goes any blows you away interviews, and you feel like his personality the way that the his character can lead team. Sometimes that's even more than what you can do from Xs and os stay, I'm not disagreeing. But I need help from both of y'all here work with me again. That's why we're not saying it's a bad high for sure 'cause we don't know. But two points that you use. I'm looking at in the sand. What reason for more trepidation, not less? If I have Sean McVay to lean on, then I'm looking at it in new hires glee learning from a hail around or you could say, he's benefiting capital. Always the question. These are unknowns. We shall find out. Right. But time will tell it always dies. But let me turn that around on. You got a guy like Sean McVay trust him to be his offense coordinator not enough to call plays. What do you call it? What still he's the offensive coordinator of the team. Why why is that? To me. That's the Mike Mayock of GM's. That because we you saw McVeigh like you watch so McVay when the defense is on the field showing McVeigh's on the sideline looking at the screen and figure out what happened when they were on automates its own. That's like I pull the higher in that sense. I say that he was near the higher the higher. Yes. I pull the higher in the sense that he's called offenses. And that's why I'm leaning. Maybe he's the right personality. Maybe he's doing. From that Ryan when Matt Ryan had his greatest hold on this matter because Kyle Shanahan got hired because of what he did. With Matt Ryan I want to. I don't want to come back to you. I'm not just Shanahan. We don't know. How much is the jury still out? I wanna come back to your point though. Because one of the other things I think we miss an all of this. If he doesn't go on a four game winning streak winning four the last five games. He might not have gotten this job. Who were those four wins against the jets? The giants the Jaguars and the reds, and they got into the give it to those games. Derrick Henry Russia's for two thirty eight against Jacksonville runs for one seventy against the giants. And what I'm saying is and Marcus mariota your quarterback started thirteen games played what d- games through eleventh. Stan eleven. I'm like, listen. I wish him nothing. But the best. I'm just saying don't expect me to sit up here. What wait to go? No where we really don't. When I heard that name today. Right. When when I heard the name, I was confused. I don't want to rush to judgment. We like you say, we don't know the issue is this we think of every Rogers at least I feel like we've come to an agreement in this. He's the most talented quarterback we have seen from a physical standpoint. So we thought all the time great quarterback needs an all time. Great name and all the time. Great coach coach at least to me that has proven. He can do that the Packers with of the weight, and in may vitually be though, I don't think he needed a proven coach, I think he needed to coach with the right ideas. What you guys are doing is saying, let's try to divine how much of his presence of floors Platt presence in places that make it look like a good resume was causal. Like he is there. And then I have a look worse is how much is his good for this is just one question for me. Did you not think Aaron Rodgers needed a coach that he could respect? Not the way you guys not the way you so. Respect in terms of his ideas about football. I don't think Aaron Rodgers respected McCarthy's ideas about football. That's why audibly out of him because he is whether we're going to need to discover whether or not Aaron Rodgers was included in sets because if it wasn't included then that means it's even worse MAG relationship. I agree with that you have to consult Amjad because. Because that's the first thing I asked Mel for four years older than Aaron Rodgers. So they got that in common. We'll say what the color yellow the Steelers off-season has this been dominated by talk surrounding Antonio Brown. He was benched in the final regular season game against the Bengals after reportedly blowing up at teammate in missing meetings. Now are Chris Morrison is reporting Pittsburgh will likely trade Brown before the new league year begins in February hard to believe arguably the best talent on that team. Ryan you had strong comments about the benching of Antonio Brown. What's your Pittsburgh do with them? I think you have to move him. I think you at least have to shop it, and you have to show them that the way he's behaving is something that you can't excel if you're Mike Tomlin, and listen, I've said on TV before Mike Tomlin wasn't just my head coach about by the way, I need to know because of apologize. I did not see exactly what you said in prompted Antonio's response to you in the way that he did could you tell us. Yeah. So so so so what I said was before Tonio. Got his deal. We offered Mike Wallace a contract. Coach theater ready told me that if Mike Wallace didn't accept this contract. They were going to offer Tony O'Brien a contract. He was two years into the league. He had a thousand yards receiving the year before had been to a Pro Bowl as a receiver. I mean as a return of so he's walking by and I said to myself, I'm talking to coach Gary GI much coat. I say win y'all. Give him his money, you gonna create a monster. And so he goes he gets it. So coming into the next practice. He just got his money. He causes out dick lebeau. Right. Coach lebeau. Somebody who Choi myself James ferry all respect. There's so much that anything he ever said. There was never a reply, right? He says he's the franchise. He says you can't touch me talking to Keenan Lewis in different guys that are covering, and we almost get into a physical altercation that day you and Tony, bro. Yeah. Because my thing was this is not how we behave. Right. This is not how we act for sure. We don't talk to coach lebeau that way. And so I said that I said that his talking to Lebowa why why would they be communicating? Well, because when when when Keenan Lewis put his hands on Tonio Brown, and Tony he was starting to scream because like you don't touch me this way, you don't deal with me this way coastal boats. Hold him to get back in the huddle or go back on the other side because it was one on ones. And so at Tonio promptly Tonio reacted to coach lebeau in that way. So that was thing. And so after stating that I said when you watch his actions from vigneault, right? And you talk about Facebook live the way that he's done things in the media with dealing with coaches, we're dealing with play caller, we're dealing with not getting the ball. I say this is the situation that coach Tomlin has allowed to get out of hand. So now, you have to think about moving him because here's my thing. It's about respect. Right. When you decide you're not gonna show up for meetings. When you decide is you're not going to practice win you bench instead of coming to the sideline. Like other players do in Steelers gear, right? Supporting your teammates being there for the whole game in a situation where eight is probably the darkest moment of this year. Because you're facing your seizing your season mortality, right? Your playoff more tally. You don't even have an opportunity control your own destiny. You wear a code and you leave at halftime, right? There's no respect there for your head coach. There's no respect there for your teammates. And obviously, I still talk to guys in the locker room I've dealt with it. It's been something that has been weighing on this team. Oh year. And now it finally balls over when you're upset because juju Smith Schuster was voted MVP and not you that's an issue and that something that has to be dealt with. So you either say, hey, told you hear the things you have to do here. The March you had to meet as far as behavior or you can't be here, you're complying, or you're not you're complying or you're not a Steeler, if he can't do those things he asked what is your direct response to what he what he said about you and Twitter. I don't have a problem with that. You know what I mean? I think in in doing this job. And I think you've spoken. About it before as being an African American and being a black of former black player, I'm supposed to support everything. That's black right in the moment. You don't the moment. You call a spate of spayed the moment, you have an an unbiased, by the way, that's an unfortunate phrase because that has racist, right? The moment you do those things in now combs into a situation that you're wrong. You're you're you're not supporting your you're selling out, your I've got the tweets your dancing for Massa in those different things. And so I understand that. And the reason I didn't respond this because nobody wins you believe he believes what he called you that you are that or where do you believe he's just trying to insult you? Oh, I so this is this is probably harsher than anything. I probably could a tweet it. I don't necessarily think he thought about it. Right. I've said on this show many times, I believe he's extremely self-centered. Extremely sofas narcissist to a point. I don't think he thought about me. I think he watched it. He he saw the interview in his thought was this is just how I feel it wasn't necessarily. I want to assault. Ryan. It wasn't necessarily his words affecting me in a certain way. It was just that Ryan says something I don't agree. With. And so here's my answer. It wasn't a very well thought out response. It wasn't a very well thought out comment, which is why didn't respond to it on Twitter or Instagram and deal with it in. Because there is a sense that if you are or at least I have the sense that if a player parrots, the kind of football ethos, the that that that that kind of empowers the power structure or respects the power of the status quo, then some players may say, well, wait a minute. Somehow you're being anti player. Right. And if you if an African American player, here's an African American former player talking about him. That's where that so. In other words to me there is something behind it. Are you saying there's not really thought behind it? It's just like a feeling yet. Yeah. I I just didn't I didn't put much into it. Like, I honestly I didn't think about it. I didn't care. It wasn't one of those days where he talked about my words and gave his response to my story. Right. It was he he didn't say, well, you know, Ryan that didn't have it had. He said Ryan that didn't happen. You're lying. The story isn't true. I would have had more of a problem with that than him. Call. Tell me what he called you. Now, I look at it Antonio Brown. He's the most consistent numbers producer. And he's a big time clutch cruiser too. I think we all agree since Jerry Rice actually year in year out putting up those numbers. But Stephen we debated this. The other day, I said, there are three reasons why you should trade him. Now. First of all, I think juju Smith Schuster is the eyeball test. This is not Muhammed some new of good receiver who benefits from playing on a thing with Julio Dusit, legit one. He's legit number one. I believe that he's a legit number one. Number two, you free up cap space number three what you get back could be a first round pick. But now there's a number four addition by subtraction. You seem to also be adding that that can be addition by some let me let me let me take this in a different direction. Max, I'm not discriminating thing that you say I need to piggyback off of what he said. Because recently, I was in the news in Washington because John wall had a problem with me, and, you know, star golfer to wash with and he was talking about the told reporters, you know, come to me, man. The man have accomplished. Well, I was in the locker room, and he wouldn't come out to train his room. So he left that out. I came back a week later when they played the Boston, Celtics. He wouldn't you know, he didn't wanna talk. He just walked by me and hallway, and that's fine. But then they talk about stuff like, well, you know, what if you got something personal? And that's the reason I bring that up is because it's relevant to this whole situation where Ryan clock. First of all, listen to stand something there is not anything personal coming out Ryan clogs mouth about Antonio Brown. There was nothing personal coming out my mouth about John. Well, I think we Don walls a hell of a player when he's on his game. He didn't come in to camp in shape. We're ready to go. It's my job to call. It like I see it. What Ryan is alluding to what I will say directly to all of you here at Ryan. I have no doubt will cosign is that it alludes to. And this is where you come in max something Mike Tyson say years ago, I think it was to Jeremy shat, but I'm not sure he said. When a white person comes up to me and asked me, something I might be annoyed or whatever the case may be. But all right. It is what it is. He said, but when a black person comes at me in a fashion that I think is wrong. It it. I'm paraphrasing. He of course, he said, I take it very very personally because you should know better. So his mentality is that because from a cultural from an ethnic perspective the level of understanding that we have about one another and the trials and tribulations. We must endure we should have a level of understanding and that way it should somewhat gloss over reality. My point is reality is reality. Now, if there's a sensitivity to your subject to your story personally that obviously we're gonna let you tell the story. But if you doing something in front of millions of people and everybody sees it. What has Ryan Clark supposed to do? What am I supposed to do? What other reporters of African American descent as it pertains African American athlete so posted do if your performance is in public view. You have a lot of people that would prefer we ignore or gloss over and compromise our self and our job. Potentially out paycheck for those guys when they already making moves on it seems to me the problem. It seems to me also that out speak. This is you're supposed to take care of me, brother. Right. If that is the idea in fact, that's a disservice. Because now you're being asked not to tell the truth. I want to say quickly that race plays an unknowable part that seems to be constantly present in our country in our culture, and in sports, even in the last segment where we discussed the coaching hire it occurred to me that there may be assigned kind of soft racism in a way in terms of coaching highs Bill Polian brought this up of all people talking about the Rooney rule the pipeline to coaching right where it used to be black men. Couldn't quarterback the team. How many African American offensive coordinators are there in the pipeline to get jobs as head coaches in this offensive Centric league. Right. So there's so constantly in this way where it's more explicit or in in the previous segment where it was not as obvious race plays a factor. There's no there's no way to escape it.
Steelers Preview: Have the Steelers improved their roster so far through Free Agency?
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I can lick cross you off on with E. L. O. Plane you know just swab just made. My kids watch made my kids. I let my kids watch that the other day. I'm watching those like this is this is weird. It's there's some weird parts. Well good to have my good friend dame deputy Dave Scofield. What's gone on not too much? Just hold it down waiting waiting for the breaking news to happen now because it's always happening during our podcast. Last couple of nights made much of a splash today. So we're going to hear now day. You're killing I listened to all of our shows like the QNA. With Tony and Brian. Your shes every time. We have the premium like what's going on. They make nothing. I guess I'm man. Come on for once. There's great to be home all the time await. I'm always home anyway. Zach excited about steelers' stuff. I mean that's right when I got well. I'm just saying last night I got to sit there and just hear numbers and speak numbers and everything about numbers with the NBA. And on so. How was that was tough? I gotta be honest. I told Dave before we were on the day. You should pray. Just go on for me because I've always said I know you would've you would've early for me. It's like I. I'm that guy that I don't want to hear about the numbers. Just tell me who we have and let's talk about football and we're going to do on this show. We're GONNA talk about football in the question. That was posed in the title of this. Episode is very tough to say right now because we haven't even been a week in the free agency but I would say guys. Would you agree or disagree with the first wave is done? Yes the first three agency has done. Yeah because you still have some. You've saw some names out there and we ran that article on miners. Steel CURTAIN DOT com. Today this afternoon about the desk players left like the best of what's around and so I'm kind of figuring out. I think the first wave is done. So let's say after. The first wave of free agency looking at players lost players gained. Who Or do you feel that the steelers roster is improved at all. Now this GonNa Change. We know they're going to bring in probably a couple of players that has it roster gotten better or gotten worse. Let's start you Brian. What he think I have to say it's gotten worse because not every hole has been filled. So yeah I I can't really no. I don't think another week from now. It'll be saying that but it's just not over enough for me to have to say yeah. It's completely improved. You have improvement at one position. But you've you've lost you've lost on the offensive line and it's not clear whether those guys are officially coming back. That's been tendered guys coming back. And that's Dupree. Because he was he was franchise tag. He should be coming back unless they pull some shenanigans in and I do something like a trade there but you know with everything I'm saying right now. It's I'm still holding pattern but I I think the air was pointing up ice. Okay Dave what are your thoughts on okay? Well they've lost. Two starters correct wonder retirement wonder free agency unless would you consider? Mark Barron Starter. She'd I was thinking Avon Hargrave. I guess you could say agency right now. I know what I'm saying. I use it foster. Yes absolutely started. When he was healthy And hargrave was he was technically. You're starting nose tackle when you started in base and they lost the key reserve. Yes and a key reserve. So it's funny because I don't know that they are they've improved their roster but with but now they're sitting with some counties that I've got a best it up salary cap space their calories calorie sap. I've said it show this you know so I almost got ahead of myself there. So the the the thing is that they've made the move. I mean especially with last with with Marquee. Pouncey still were under. They were under an okay and then they add pouncey to it so that it's one of those things of well then they must maybe have something in mind so I don't know that they're I don't know that the roster is better but I think their situation is better because they will they have a they do have a little bit of freedom right now. I don't think anyone can save right now that their roster is better and I'm the one that thought of the headline but at the same time I think it's just to create some discussion between the three of us. Because they like you said they lost potentially three starters in so when you lose three starters in you're bringing in the only player that you bring in and let's not come not counting duprey as a free agent signing or. They're keeping him even though he wasn't unrestricted free agent. He never left the only bring in a fullback. Special Teams Ace. Although he's GonNa play he's not he's not gonNA be a regular on the field in my opinion so because of that and it's only one player by the way. I'm going to say that there's no way that they've improved their roster yet but like Brian said yes me in a week next week on this show and we may be seeing a completely different tune because as Dave said they have created salary cap. Space Land says in the live chat that is about seven point six million that is incorrect that according to Ian. Okay what is it? Eleven point four. Whou DID THEY. They have not restructured to it or Decastro that have they have not good. You say something and you know something. I've said a lot and to correct dave and big Brusco Let's rewind a little bit. Let's go back and say with what money I told you. They will find a way to find money. You're still found genre million dollars only because there was a new. Cba that stipulation. They've made twenty three found. Twenty three million dollars restructures that they could have done otherwise to get things down they leave. There's a new CBA if there wasn't screwed because there's twenty three million they couldn't have got what what was the salary cap for the CPA. No it's being able to restructure. They could restructure salaries. If I underst- I understand that. But they still find a way if this was any other year and it wasn't a salary cap in they were sitting there they would have restructured excitable and I agree with you but said it all depends on the CBI if they didn't get the CBA there's no way they could have made you know what's what's the number I ever. Yeah like over over twenty three million dollars. They've saved in riche in the six restructures. Did they restructure and find a way because on stop stop you guys are both right. That's exactly right Brian's right because they always find a way days very because the see being signed help them find a way. You're both right. You're yelling each other a- the same thing so let's move on past it unless I'm talking with my children right now where my students anyways next question for me for you all is since we all agree that right now the roster is not better what scares you or what do you have any trepidation about my goodness. They lost a lot here or there. And I'm not sure can be get this through free agency because they're freeing up space for something we know that and the NFL draft. Br Dave start with you this time. What area about this team? Mike's NASC- pause a little bit makes me pause. I don't like the interior offensive line depth. We just the depth. I mean for crying loud. They don't have a starter they'll go well. Yeah that's well it all depends on how you play it you here. You have a starter so I'm more concerned about interior but it still across the board if you know what I mean because once you bump filer down. Then that's one less tackle they. Did you know they keep banner for a reason to have I mean? I don't think anyone unless between banner and Szucs both of them are going to have to start this year barring injury so you're only talking about one of them half two or neither if filer stays tackle and they have another answer at guard. There's there's a lot of question marks there how they're gonNA move it. I liked it. Filer could go either place so it gives you some freedom but you need to do something there okay. Jc has an hour. Is The backup center. Now Right. Is that his name correctly? Does anyone know either. Your Brian is he have position versatility. Can he play guard as well as center as even know? I don't know anything about this guy. All I know is Brian Anymore. I only know him as a senator. He didn't even he wasn't on the practice squad. Part way through the season I only remember him as a senator but You know for some reason. I'm thinking that he has that kind of versatility. But we've only seen him in Pittsburgh as a center in preseason action. Okay read over. And who is a loyal listener viewer? He says he didn't he af so we'll see I think that there that's important for me because you know Dave you bring up a great point about the interior depth along the offensive line. What about you Brian? Is there anything in his how everything's panned out the players that have left compared to the players that are still here any holes in the roster that make you kinda like that's a Red Flag? Chew Chor Four scares the Living Knight been released. Understand why what about him has has caused every time you started. He's played well. I I saw him with false starts. I've seen him with penalties. I just saw him look trepidation. Really just no. I don't like I really don't like his game. And that's just my opinion I agree with Lance and I have no problem I mean. He's I think he's terrible. I ll exact banner better at that position as a tackle more than Chew Chor for because I don't think szucs good. When they signed him he was not signed him when they drafted him. He was a the throughout the word project and he plays right right. Let me ask you this. Brian. I'm not disagreeing with you. And I think it should be an open competition for tackle if they are indeed moving filer into guard however what about Zach Banners? Play has made use uber confident in his ability. I just think he. He seems like a stronger tackle. I I am. Let's be honest though last season when he was on the field. How many times did he backpedal rarely I? I'm not I'm not mad at you. It's just one of those situations. I think it's I think it's an even match between these two guys because act banner. Everyone loved him and he's a very likable guy and he super funny. He did that video around Christmas time where he was downtown. Pittsburgh handed out terrible towels and asking like he's a great guy and he has video. That's all that's awesome. Great when whenever he was I never whenever he was eligible. You know I'm doing on the if you're not watching the hand side for an eligible receiver. He was always run block. Run Block run blog. Run Block which is Great. I think that his struggles are in past block so we never have to see him do that. No more about the line than I do. My writer my far off base here though you're spot with saying not being able to see him do it. We can't say that he can or can't because we didn't really get much I mean there's different types of pass blocking key and the thing is a lot of times out of that jumbo package when you're even when they did throw the ball. They're not throwing it away that it's just we're flat up dropping back forming the pocket in order in order for him to go. You're you're trying to deceive. So you're you'RE LYMAN. Or even firing off the ball a little bit up trying to do a play action for the linebackers reading the linemen seeing if they're if they're dropping back or what they're doing so you're right. He didn't do much of that. You know five three step five-set step position to take on the pass rush that you would want out of a tackle now. I think the fact that we're having this debate. Brian shows that this is an issue. This is again what I've gathered. Brian let me ask you this question. You know the upcoming players better than I do. David you can chime in as well. Is this not a better tackle group coming up in the draft then guard absolutely? Oh it's A. It's a phenomenal and in the front There's about four or five first rounders. That will probably go before number. Twenty if you if you start double digit tackles. You might have double digit tackles before you hit an interior linemen in the draft. Yeah there's there's the potential for a run in the first round with that said in everyone lances at it in the live chat other people have chiming in live chat and said look at Offensive Guard in the second round for the steelers first. Pick of the draft. I say if you'RE GONNA move Matt filer to guard any trust in their in tackle. Is the position that you might be able to get someone with really. That's really good. That just is not a top top tier tackle. You might be out of look at tackle and if you have a day one guy can come in and play right tackle. Maybe that's your answer to this is these are some of the things we're GonNa talk about throughout the offseason but still it's something to think about in regards of looking at the positions that are deep in this upcoming draft class and matching them with what the steelers need so it all depends on if filers good enough to play guard in athletic enough to pull their and be able to do everything that's asked of that left guard spot. Can they be finding right? Tackle in the draft. That will nate. Potentially push guy like exactly AOF the roster. Brad who sent us a mock draft. And he's working on another one in the live chat. He said his numbers thirteen tackles be has before an interior linemen now but the thing to remember about that is people. Keep saying like when there's a lot of people were projecting steelers with a tight end all. It's such a week tight end class. You're talking about guys for first round steelers. Don't have a first round pick. That doesn't mean that guys that you could get at forty nine aren't good players. They just I mean how. Many mock drafts. I've seen doing the mock draft Mondays where the steelers have their choice at tight end because none of them have been drafted by forty nine. It doesn't mean that there's not one worthy at forty nine. I mean if you go onto. I haven't done it for a couple of weeks on O'Brien and I looked at last year. Cbs sports had all of their all of their their players ranked accordingly. And they're numbered. The last time I checked they're number forty nine guy. Which would into the steelers was the guard slash center from Wisconsin? That I can't say his name and he was the best interior interior offensive linemen. How difficult name. I just can't say because Brian Brian knows how I am. I mean I don't know if he's still number forty nine. But that's you saying. Is that even in that position? There might be. It might be really deep tackled but they might take a lot of the tackles and next thing you know you get the best guard in the draft although it is a second round talent so it's really tough to look at that reads got it. I can't remember her name. I don't know I can't say or not. It's not to read it but I'm not gonNA know happy birthday to Brad Jewish by the way I think. I saw him say his birthday earlier in the live chat. Happy Birthday Brad. He's a longtime listener. The show good support. We appreciate that of enrichment happy birthday. They're watching live on youtube. You know the position that Kinda gives me a little. Hesitation is now inside linebacker. That was my next one. You know because the one on on twitter. I'm not sure who was. It wasn't just like a fan of with someone that maybe on the radio or on television in Pittsburgh and they see unity like mark. Barron was signed almost as an insurance policy for Devon Bush and Devon Bush predicted play moves. Okay that makes mark Barron expendable and they cut him. They say cast space. We get all that at the same time. I sit there and wonder boy. I hope the second year linebacker is ready for that. You Know Devon Bush did not play. Extensive snaps is much in the second half he did in the first half. Some people thought that was more of a demotion. Mike Tomlin said it was more of him managing his snaps in making sure that he's fresh is a longer season than college. All that stuff is very well known but guys I mean now with bearing on in Medicare gone. You're looking at grant. Gosh Brian. She did it again. Ulysses s over the lovechild of Ulysses S in March. Yeah that's right. We don't want him Ulysses Gilbert the third is there another inside linebacker on this roster that is of Hebert Spelane? Okay but you know I mean he he was on he was on the fifty-three last year and Game Day. Active just as a special teamers after Gilbert was put on I R so they're they're basically somewhat equivalent. I mean that's a position that's going to need to be addressed in my opinion any my. Gosh she can't Roberts Bylane no he's not going to be the answer. A death at both inside linebacker position. So it's GONNA be Eyler Medicaid which deficit inside like he wasn't not couldn't lady got as much money as he did? Mark this down. I agree with Dave and that's exactly what I was. GonNa say Next Matt. Eleven when he let it on them flirting God gravy. 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Vox that's ziprecruiter DOT COM slash V o X ziprecruiter dot com slash. Vox Ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire. I mean they eljay. Fort is the guy that that they really did not need to get rid of. They could have kept him for so cheap they could. He was a fraction a fraction of what they paid for. Tikolo and they chose to keep Tikolo the grant. They didn't have a lot of death at that position at the time over four. So you kind of wish. We could have back right. It's GonNa be interesting now. I wanted to kind of move from this conversation. Which by the after bring this case and rights as my girlfriend's hating every second of listening to all gave argued very little actually. Yeah you're actually. It's always Dave and Brian AIDS. Very rarely me. I'm more the I was ready to argue with you today on twitter on texting though do you. Yeah we'll that you got to save that for tomorrow night. Save Darnay. Let's tomorrow. Oh say that for Lance okay. Are we supposed to agree on everything boring? And every everybody thinks that when Dave and I go at we hate each other and then we get off we click often. Were laughing keep talking. Always my Internet connection. It's really shoddy anyways so I WANNA ask. You wrote this article for the website this morning Iran and that was about compensatory picks right now you can kinda start that equation you kind of piecing the puzzle together before we get to where the steeler said. Brian. You see teams like the Baltimore Ravens New England Patriots. They rack up complex. I know that it's not in the forefront of teams thought process released not the steelers typically but should it way into the factor of okay. Who WE'RE GONNA lose? We'RE GONNA keep complex way into that in your opinion Brian. I don't think so. I think that's just you think about the compaq when you're trying to figure out around week. Eight week nine. We tend whether you're GONNA get rid of Dante Moncrieff or not you. You might look at that but you know the moves that you're making now you're you're not looking at the future for that. That's that's just a little extra. That's that's more incentive to stop the bleeding that you have something coming next year but you're planning for two thousand twenty not twenty one with a pick Because in some situations that's a six round compaq for some I mean who is it. The Fini's what what is finished sixth round Compaq. So if you end up with a six and that's the guy you get you're not going to get rid of a quality player because you're not going to You're still going to try to keep that quality player not to just get a sixth round. Pick later on so. That's kind of the way way. I'm looking at their One of the reasons that they also you know you look at a team like New England in Baltimore. They make a lot of trades so when they make a trade that's not losing a guy or they're giving up somebody They're bringing some of the via trade so that doesn't effect their complex so Claes Campbell. That's not a free agent coming in. That's so that doesn't affect that at all whatsoever. So they're getting a guy but that's not going to keep them from gaining a six rounder a fourth-round or or what have you. Okay Dave. You agree or disagree. I think I agree somewhat for the most part. I think the advantages there to to grab wanted presents itself meaning. The steelers shouldn't be thinking about the cop pick but now the J von Hargrave is gone. That's something that you know. This is kind of worth remembering around saying what's an opinion that's going to be a threat. I think it's GonNa be honestly. It's right on the cusp. It's right on the cusp. Between being the the last third round pick for the top fourth round pick it most likely over the cap right now has it has a fourth. I'm thinking of it as a fourth because I'd rather undervalue that overvalue because with the thirteen million a year. If it was thirteen five he'd be up to a three. You know so. It's really close so in other words. Not only do you. WanNa see J von Hargrave. Make that money. Us Bowler because that's GonNa that's GonNa move that up a little bit. Why don't you go into where the steelers are right now? After the first wave of agency is over terms of compensatory picks projects. Well bottom line is and this is something that I wrote the article about. Some misconceptions about about the complexes it's not about the biggest thing is net loss players versus net gain players because last year when the Eagles I cut eljay Ford. Never Oh no. That's going to drop our COMP pick from a third round to a fifth round. No it doesn't drop your pick in round it's either third round or no pick. The steelers had no net loss. So you have to lose more players than what you gain once you have that net loss. Then you figure out what rounds those are so the steelers have now have a net loss of four or not a net loss. They have a loss of four and a gain of one for a net loss of three. So they're one gain is. Derek Watt their three losses are J von Hardgrave. Schon Davis Tyler Medicaid which and bj. Finney in that order. Now Davis is an interesting one. I DIDN'T WANNA die of too much into this in the article but Davis. Here's a value right now of what he would be compromised that his could change a ton to where he doesn't even count because his contract is so incentive laden if he doesn't earned those incentives or if because it's so many incentives that makes them easy to cut him. Then he's just out of the equation. It doesn't matter but for right now. Derek what is coming in at the ver- is either a sixth or seventh round. He's right on right on the cusp so me I always. I always estimate the worst for the steelers. So if watts of six he cancels one of the six which would be Finney and the steelers would have right now. Two four six and don't forget if somebody signs already burns the help party. Burns Nick Vanette. That's right Jordan dangerfield. If any of those three go somewhere else now remember if the steelers signed them it just means they didn't lose them. It doesn't hurt against the player gained because they were. There's last year. So that's that's it so I mean the steelers could go out and sign to other free agents and unless they got a salary that puts them up into the fourth round range which would mean they're paying somebody you know eight or more million dollars the year. They're not canceling hargrave. And that's the one that they would end up most likely being able to keep so it's a very fluctuations player says. Come and the thing. Is that it to me once the. Nfl made the rule change. These picks can be traded. It made them that much more important. It used to be that you've got a con pig. That was your pick your pick only stated that position no matter what but now you can trade. These picks to me. I'm like well now. There's a little bit more value now. You can package these picks. He's extra thirds of force and they become valuable to a lot of teams. So we'll see how that goes and we'll keep you updated here on steelers preview but one of the things we do every off season. Go say something I was just. GonNa say more picks always good because I know when when I've talked with flip he didn't like moving up for Devon Bush last year because he said it was such a deep draft. It was a great draft to move back. But my thing with that is the steelers. Had Ten picks. You WANNA move back and pick up another picker to what are you going to do with twelve picks because they had ten picks. That's the perfect time to move up because you didn't need to draft ten players so if you can add you know two or three cockpits along with the seven or depending on anything else you gain or lose that you have that just allows you to package stuff and make a move and that gives us two extra guys come. July to just completely be Cypher to lose them forever. Come September Yeah. Yeah all right good answer. We'll keep you up to date on that. But it's something else on the steelers preview show every week is we diagnose in breakdown one specific position and I figured you know. What with all the excitement around this player. Why don't we preview the fullbacks? Today I don't. Is there any other fullback on the roster currently no yes? That's what I was hoping for so with that guys. Brian will start with you. What was your reaction when the steelers did two things one signed? Eric Watt to release Roosevelt Knicks. They obviously went hand in hand. But what were your thoughts when this all went down? Hey the sea rosie go one of my favorite players but it's a business and obviously he They did not feel that he was healing. Well enough they got rid of them. You bring in somebody that we know from a class family because we we have one of the watts. What's happening going on in Pittsburgh now as you have to y players. I like this guy but I also liked him from what I saw him when he was playing for San Diego Slash Los Angeles. I just think he is more of a traditional fullback as a good special team player. He's could help that running game as well. I like the fact that there's another watt in there too because I I you know I kind of like the dynamic of having those guys there and hey beats having to edmonds which they still do for now Dave. What are your thoughts when the Derrick Watson went down? I'm going to be the same number. I threw out on static sixty four and that is four years in the NFL. Sixteen Games six for sixty four total. He's never missed a game and Aldo. Rossi's missed one here here or there before this past year. This past year is is really what it comes down to. And I mean he had just been made special teams captain and didn't even really get to enjoy that and then we know we asked for his release. You don't know exactly the timing of it was it before the signing was it after. I'm assuming it was after Because I don't know why you'd want to go anywhere. He was the only fullback. But I'm sad to see Rosie go but actually you know it's people talked about all. Derek wanted the steelers weeks ago and I didn't really think anything of it because I'm like yeah. I don't know that they'll do that for a fullback when they don't have any money than they signed a new. Cba They can restructure deals as we talked about and you know they're free agent signing is less per year than anybody that they've lost so far like Finney's the lowest contract that they've lost four million a year and watched comes in at three point two five and only just barely over two million cap it this year. So I it's when the steelers signed Steven Nelson last year. How many people knew that name? How many steeler fans knew that name? I didn't I'll be honest. You very few. I mean some even some of us you know did or didn't know that name. But guess what almost everybody knew. Derek what so it's something that did excite the fan base but I don't know he him and Tyler Medicaid which were tied for special teams tackles last year so he he fills that void as a special teamer. And you have a fullback that maybe maybe they're wanting to do something different with this year. It's fun it's something good to talk about. We'll see if it really I don't. I don't know that the move translates to any more victories on the field right now. And it's a fullback but you know my opinion you can go and listen to our special home. Earn haters show? That went after the standard is a standard last night myself and lance went back and forth lands still in the live chat spouting off about it. He doesn't like this. The answer was sixteen lance how many North Okay anyways I is looked at this pickup. And said how might the steelers utilize him in the offense and twenty twenty? So what is? Maybe Derek Watt. Bring to the table an offensive standpoint that maybe Roosevelt next never did so for instance one of the things which by the way I wanted to mention this the NFL's giving away game pass for free right now until I think which by the way that could be an article Dave They're giving away for free right now. I think it's like may may thirty first. If you've never experienced game pass go on you can create your own account and you can watch any game film from like. I don't know how many years it goes back. But you can watch the all twenty two footage. Go back and look for yourself. You know this is the time to create your own opinion of someone. Like Derek Watt. Because you can go back and look at the L. A. Charters from last season you can go back to even when they were in San Diego and say what does he do. What what is he not do? Well what did they ask him to do? Compared to what the steelers might ask him to do. Now that's my question here. Roosevelt Knicks was not used that often last year because he was hurt in two thousand eighteen. I felt the using more and James. Connor had a really good year. I could be wrong. Maybe it's just my perception could Derek. Why be athletic enough to be that fullback? That's in the I formation in. They kind of move him out to the edge. You see that happen. A Lot with tight ends in the NFL today. They want the single back. Look they want the extra tight end? But they don't want to like you always said Dave Zach banners on the field. They're going to do. They're going to run the ball. They have some options. I know he's not necessarily known for his hands. I don't know if he can't catch though. Maybe they didn't ask him to catch so Brian. What are your thoughts on that in terms of what in the offense what might be able to do you know with him? That maybe they didn't do with Nixon. The past I don't know his catching numbers but from what I understand. That is a pretty good He's pretty good. Receiver out of the Backfield Dave could probably give us those numbers. But let me just throw this in real quick if you remember the Super Bowl Guile account used Jack. And we've known this guy for a while because he played in Baltimore and he's done well with San Francisco he's very valuable and that super super bowl because they used him Quite a bit as a pass catching threat. We've Seen Rosie a couple of times I'm once or twice over the last couple of years. Have a receiving touchdown. I remember that that Huge Baltimore Game Right. After shazier went down he had a huge touchdown in that game. So it's it's something that really that just came out of the corner of my God lord either. There should be a tracker every week whether I'm smiling or not because if I'm not smiling and concentrating then like who heads in a bad mood bad sad blah blah blah now moskvy cuddly. Anyways good numbers. I hadn't seen it. He's a good receiver. I mean he's he I think he opens up were traditional running game for this team that they didn't have last year because they had roosevelt next on the pine because he was hurt and they'd nobody to plug closest thing they had was suddenly wants to. Yeah the last year was his worst receiving gear. Because he owned he was. He had three receptions on five targets meaning on on actual reception firt first career. It's ten receptions on thirteen targets so a catch rate of over seventy five percent but the one thing that he did. They do with him that they didn't ever do with. Nicks is he had seven rushes last year. He only played one hundred. Twenty two offensive snaps an almost said San Diego but I caught myself in Los Angeles or four Los Angeles so one hundred and twenty-two offensive snaps but he was either targeted or given the ball. Twelve Times it's you know. Ten percent of the time being on the field actually having the ball in his direction. That's way more than the ever saw with Roosevelt. Mix Now the question is that's just how they used the question is. How will the steelers use him? Do they have a different plan with fullback or did it? Was it just a happy signing that. Did we answer that yet? Unfortunately but I I think that he gives them more versatility at the position and I said last night on our show in my opinion the signing kills two birds with one stone. You Lose Tyler Medicare. Who is your special teams? Ace Roosevelt? Next A fullback. That was always heard. You get a fullback in special teams as with one guy you. You're paying him less than you. Dave paid those two guys. So go ahead dave yet. That was GONNA be my one thing. What would you rather had tyler cabbage for? Four and a half million season or Derek Watt for three and a quarter for for the season. So I'd be up for that. And is this a move down the road to Give give TJ extra incentive to stick around we. We teased that on at cake. I mean think about it. I don't know you really would but but you know what I mean or something and you know I mean. Of course you know everybody throughout now. Hey let's go get. Jj You know that's not gonNA happen. It would be awesome to think about We'd really have watts happening. But you know I mean. Is that that the those guys value sticking around and I it seems like a guy like TJ is going to want to stay here anyways so but is that on the back of their mind. Hey will bring this guy in as well. I'm not saying it's happened. I'm not saying could but everyone knows if ben likes you. You're on the team. You know if ben once you and the team you're on the team who was about to who is about to become if not already just not in salary at the Ben Rothlisberger defense absolutely DJ TJ Y. Yeah I'll be honest with TJ. Want says I want my brother on the team. I don't know that that happened but I'm just saying if he did then if I was the steelers I'd think about it. Well you know they think about whatever ben ones how often does an NFL player get to actually play with their biological brother on the same team? I know it's happened before. Obviously the editor and brothers are on the steelers. I know it's happened prior to them. But it's rare etel right now it's rare and I think it's special for some of these guys so Loyalty is going to be something we bring in the after parties and make sure you check us out there but we're not finished with this show yet I WANNA do. Are you guys have trivia all? I got good stuff. Oh good good. Good hold on. Let me put on the ones if you want imaginary dunce cap is going on on the idiot of the Group. So why don't we go? Dave in fire Brian. Now Yeah I have a small one. I'm kicking around in my head about Trivia your party and that is what she said guys out here Brian for crying out loud. Goodness I told asking me was hours ago. All right yeah. I'll do the fun when I okay. This is in honor of Ramon Foster. 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Ramon foster was undrafted. Can you name the other four steelers? That played more seasons. Who were undrafted? Say That again. Who are the other four steelers who played more seasons than remote for the steelers then Ramon foster and they were undrafted? Some of these are easy. I can you be too off the top of my head okay. I'll give you the hard one. I Greg warned Greg. Warren that is one very good. In twelve. South and Donnie. Shell played fourteen seasons. James Harrison has James Harrison also played fourteen seasons. And this is the difficult one. Sometimes I get the seventh-round and seven hundred guys mixed up. I know what you mean. She I think. Probably the modern era or older older not forties or something but it is Jake. Shiners era said he no. He played in a super bowl era. He you know. Four four super bowls dwayne woodruff. It was not the Wayne Woodruff. I don't know how many seasons he played if he's on this list because I was looking at undrafted guys. You're ready for it. Now give it. Give us a position offense or defense. I'll give you the position okay. We'll give me your second. He was a guard. Sam Davis that is correct. May Rest in peace. That would Sam Davis. He played thirteen seasons for the steelers from nineteen sixty seven to nineteen seventy nine and he was undrafted number fifty seven so Maryanne. What's not want my own? Yeah you and fired this when Jeff because we were talking about where where Arizona cut not not Arizona. It was the forty niners. Cut One of their offensive linemen and said that's interesting to wouldn't count towards comp and things like that and just like yeah. I I could see that I'm like wait. He's he's like thirty one. That's not the kind of moves the steelers make and and Jeff brought up a certain steeler that they brought in later in his career that then played a long time. And you were shocked how long he actually played in in Pittsburgh. Jeff Jeff Harding's. Yes that he that he played six seasons for the steelers after he already came in but he was twenty eight when he came in the question. I have and this. This is a difficult one. What's The steelers? Played the most seasons in Pittsburgh but did not start their. Nfl career where they actually for credited with playing a game. So not like James Harrison who started on practice squad to the places who actually played for another team and then came to the steelers and played multiple. And tell you. They played thirteen seasons with the steelers after starting with another team drone beddis. He didn't play thirteen seasons with the steelers. Thirteen sees he. How many years did he played for Pittsburgh? That's a great question. I can tell you so Let me just give you the dates. He started a ninety six and he left. Didn't oh six but did not pay seasons. What ten seasons got it? I I was thinking could be James Farrior but James. Ferry wasn't around for thirteen this player. I'll tell you. Eric he played what what's that? Can you give us the era? You broke up Brian. The era he played on to Super Bowl teams in the seventies. The first two. I'm pretty sure it was too might have been one but at least one so he. He's t started with the steelers and sixty four and finished. Seventy-six Ray Mansfield. That would be correct Mary. Good Nice very good Brian. Honest Emirate Mansfield wonderful job tonight you are the you you get the Trivia award say every week good Trivia I. This is one of those that it sounded better in my head. Now I'm getting worried about it so okay. There's when you look. It steeler drafts over the last twenty thirty years. I'm looking at the fullback position. Now you a lot of these guys come in as running back. But I'm talking about guys that traditionally played fullback for the steelers who was the most productive drafted fullback in the last. Let's say thirty years I guess but it's probably wrong for the steelers. Yes we're the steelers lead. Jeff Gas I. I have no clue Frank Summers Frank. No I love that. Because the was one of the guys that. I forgot about frank the tank Chris you might say Ma Vala. So no accounting. I'm coming foods or running back again. Because he played more out of the tailback position. So we're getting some. Dan KREIDER UP THERE. He was he drafted by the steelers. Dan crowder was not drafted. He was undrafted out of Hampshire. Shoot US should know the one I'm thinking of an. I can't think of his name because he he would have come out. It would've been in the I would say whatever you WANNA call it. Mid To late nineties out of Penn state absolutely I keep wanting to save name is John Williams. You're close name is John. Because John. I can't you know why because I would have competed against him in college and track and field but he graduated right before I started. What's his name John with a W. Yes that's Whitman's with minimal? Whitman's remember him. John William was a different one right S. Who PLAYED SEATTLE? Who was a pro bowler in Seattle? Yes I knew he was. He was a penn state fullback and then came in and played for the steelers. Yes he was a good discus thrower was drafted right. After Mike All star he was in the same draft so all start out of purdue who had a very good all right so I have one trivia question and I'd like to go the more general route. You guys typically know these answers but there might be someone listening. Doesn't know it. So I thought Jay on Hargrave Ejei von Hargrave LISI GOES TO PHILADELPHIA. Obviously the keystone state is a large one and encompasses. Both teams in a lot of people are some people might not know that at one time the two teams the steelers and the Eagles Forum together and created the Segel's my question is what year did the struggles actually exist nineteen forty-three very good. Nineteen forty three now is because of the war that was going on and the NFL players were obviously some of them were deployed but nineteen forty three because of J von Hardaway affiliate Kinda sparked my interest back in the struggles and that was only one year and it was. I did some research on a luther. Read some stories about that crazy switching back and forth between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh in terms of home field and nuts breaking news. What happened? I saw it? I'm just getting ready. And he's Never Brian. He tweeted it out somebody. We talked about a couple of weeks ago. I was going to bring it up here. Stephan with Noski. There's regard center tweeted out. I'm coming home. And He Jeff. We can't go through a podcast without breaking news. All right very good breaking news breaking news. What is the today contract terms or anything so looking at this minutes ago it does not? They don't have right now the financial when I can find if anyone can find that in the live chat that would be greatly appreciated. Because that'll save some work that huge in something. I wanted to talk about earlier when we were talking about bringing another guy in in your I love regard but that's a really good move. I I hated that. Move before new. Cba because we didn't have any money but now we have a new CBA. I love that move and Brian. Kudos to you for calling that. That was weeks ago. How many weeks go you say that two or three lettering where I got an affair with in the live chat with people actually like because we say with what money and that was true with what money and then we got a new CBA? Now we're now. We're better all right so go ahead. One super bowls in the last couple of years to. He's he won a super bowl with the eagles. He won last year or the chiefs so coming in on those one year two year deals he comes in and he has a history of making the super bowl recently before the colonoscopy. Yeah so let let's be. Let's cut this show now. Steelers previews done. We'RE GONNA pick up with this story in the after Party so stay with US Day's GonNa be writing. He has to cover the story for the site. And we're going to get everything together. Wrap our heads around it. We'll see in five minutes if you're listening audio. The after Party will be published at one. Pm Eastern time on. Fridays if you check that out on your commute home or if you're sitting around you can check it out then to thanks for listening. Thanks for watching. We'll see in a few. There was a spreadable COOKEVILLE. Bacob plant face butter. That was better for your body and the planet. What would you make with it but her cookies butter pie? 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Who's kneeling are stick on the internet by the comment for the common, man. Good afternoon. Ladies and gentlemen, we are back. We're back in New York as far stool radio the day after the Super Bowl miserable day for most people unless you are a patriots fan. Dave Portnoy, we've got we got the whole Squatty. Liz Gonzales, Tommy smokes, myself and Davies got back from hotlanta elevate. There's a shit ton to talk about another victory Monday. The biggest kind of victory Monday. I don't even know really where to begin to be honest with you, so many different things have happened over the last week. So many things happened yesterday. Yesterday wasn't entire week. Was you had field? I'm exhausted. So my brain's not working at all. I'm totally noodle noodle fish Pia. I it it is a victory Monday. The sixth Super Bowl in the Brady Bill Jack era. I mean, I think in a lot of respects was a perfect night for the patriots a perfect night for Dave Portnoy perfect night for barstools sports, everything kinda just went perfectly. You know? I guess some people be like, oh it wasn't exciting game. Like I fuck about whether as exciting game or not it's like when you're in the Super Bowl. It was exciting super tents for the first half that I saw because nudity was moving the ball. And I was very nervous. When he missed field goal. Brady. Throws a horrible interception. Brady was really bad in the first half to be honest, saying, oh, this looks at one of those games just off in. I thought at some point the Rams would, you know, click and move the ball little bit just didn't happen. But I don't care that was ugly. I could care less. We win the Super Bowl six of them a year when despite what the critics will say in under everybody wrote us off everybody. So it was great. And then obviously. You know, my fiance Trix let's start I wanna start at the beginning. Because yesterday, you one of the first things you tweeted yesterday early in the day was the article saying that they had put around your picture portnoy's picture along with like crew that you are involved in things that they were keeping out of the Super Bowl along with your picture. It was terrorist sex traffickers, and Dave board. The three groups of people that they were on the lookout. So that was the list once that went out like did you before that? I think you're pretty confident you're not gonna get out of the Super Bowl at that point. Where you like this is pretty it was so surreal to me the idea that they would kick somebody out who has a paying ticket that I I don't. As crazy, even when we did a sit in at gales headquarters. I'm like, we're not gonna get rested. Like common sense will prevail. Right. That's what I thought. Now, I get the NFL. I get. I get the in deflate gate. The cops is like, well, it's in the news people covering it. If we let you in then anyone can come to the same stunt the go to the NFL game in just sitting your seat I apart. There's just no chance they're gonna care about this. There's real things in like homeland security in the world we live in. They're not gonna be like we're gonna go find important. I just didn't. Now. The odds were one fifty five. But it was a gimmick bet. You can't bet a ton still those odds Vegas always know says like those odds are wildly low like that makes us out like something could happen. So. Rashly brains. That's interesting that they there's this article with like the security guard be like, oh, no we're coming for board. And that there was odds on it that were low rashes that's weird but deep down. No, I didn't think I did not think I would get kicked out I- Franken I would nervous walking into the game. Right. Like, we if we saw any of the suits with the pins. We purposely not make eye contact tried to avoid. But once we got in the game. I was I thought we're good getting in at all. Nope. He's walked right in walked right in like normal people, and by the way, and there's so many different conspiracy theories out there. But I purposely didn't tweet from my or do anything from my section. I actually had Paul send me video from where he was sitting in tweeted that out and then I had one from final Burg. So I didn't I was trying to be like, whoa you. Yeah. The whole scheme gun I never said whereas at and when I did my. Emergency press conferences, which to me is nothing. It's from in the stadium. If I did with black wall. No, like, there's no way to tell where I was. So I was beyond thinking, I was fully engaged mode. I'm like, I'll just go live the last five minutes with Frankie and let people see if it's close halftime rolled around. And we both got up to either get food or take peice in one of the guys section. It was a stool came up. He's I want freak you out to like two security guards milling about your section like really in that. I noticed this one guy is black dude and the security shirt. I thought I heard him say, I think I have day port. I thought I heard him say, and I said to Franken like I think that guy's onto us phrasing. Now. No, we're good. Because there was no there was no threat. And then we both were walking take a piss and as we walked by. He snapped a picture of me took a picture. Yeah. Right. You're. Face. Yeah. And so me and Franklin the bathroom will like, oh, we've where there were compromised. Definitely. Yes. They are onto us. We didn't know what to do. So people think like, yeah. This is what I want to happen. We were like how to get out of here. Like, I was debating leaving area and walking just around the stadium to get away for some reason. So I didn't when I bought my tickets, which I did buy so as in their legally and all I snuck in ticket was five grand each. So. We just randomly ended up like a club section, which is and bar unlimited food. So it has that back area you can walk into. So like when you leave the session of walk into the main. You know, the main gates you're in like a so I thought it was safe once we're in there. But that's where we were when the guy was like following us a little bit. And then he he went away for a second in Frank out. Like, let's just go sit in our seats as during the when the halftime show that was stake by that guy to let he had an opportunity to get us out in a much more, discreet manner. And I don't know what he did Frankie things. Maybe they had to see us sit in the seats to confirm. It was our seats. But I don't know how they know. It was mine because I bought it through seek big mistake by this guy. So and he gave me like five minutes to like gear up mentally. So I know I know it's coming. So my Frankie you get camera ready, and I'm telling. If they come. I'm going limp. Like, I'm not just I'm not going out. I'm not going out. Just like, okay. Yes. Or walkout like, and they're always all around us. So the first video that went out was a student from like, listen, I think we've got to have an issue here soon. You get your cameras ready because I think they're coming for me. So that's what having came and then the rest video, and I'm just like I'm not getting up not leaving and his very funny of them. Just get. Nope. Not leaving. And then you know, they pick me up. I went dead fish, which I on these Airways. I'm like one regret from media day. Was that fish, unlike when they, but it's hard to go limp fish when you're standing to begin with. But when you already down I just was like all right come getting the Woody legs. So I mean that you being dragged up up the stairs by like a rag doll with your fucking little pigeon toes. And all that completely limp was just one. I mean, it's one of the all time. Close may become the all time clip. It was unbelievable. It's summarized everything and put it all into just one image just kind of dragged up into some darkness. Into the abyss and all your glasses in the mustache have like ten points to the whole ridiculous like vibe of it yet. So they drag me out and at one point I'm like, all right Frankie's, gone cameras. Like, okay. He can put me down now walking. I'll go walk. It's like the show like all right? I know him off. So then they put me against the wall in what the same kind of dynamic as media day broke out at the Super Bowl. It's the NFL workers who hate me, and it was up to them. I think they put me in the electric chair. And then you start getting local cops involved in the local cops Ike. Okay. What's the situation? In fact, they have me against the wall. And you could see there's so many videos. I haven't had time to regroup. What I think the best light footage. I know marinas done a good job in the recap. But you can see me starting to talk like shit back because I'm like, I hope there's nothing else going on the stadium. Like, there's not real threats, and you guys are wasting ten people in somebody's literally sitting chair watching the game with the paid ticket. And you can kind of see the NFL guys starts yelling at the cops. He's like put the cuffs on him get out here. And the caught find Turner is like shut up. This is my. Like back off because it's the cops job in the cops trying to as like what were you doing? I was watching the game. And he he's like what he's no really what were you doing? I think they're used to like drunk people or something they're bickering with one another just sitting in the NFL is acting like it's a terrorist threat in the cops are like, I don't understand. I still don't know wise this guy here. Why are we wasting our resources on this guy? Fucking it. The Frankie aspect of it who Frankie has nothing to do. He's never been in trouble with the NFL. He he's done nothing. He's not banned from anywhere. And he is a paid ticket videoing me in they took his ticket and ripped it up. So like, Frankie is basically the NFL people the NFL guy did and the NFL tried to take his camera and Frankie's like this is you can hear me. This is America do this. I can do this. So I they put me in handcuffs and walk me probably fifteen to twenty minutes to like a jail area below the state. Idiom, and I'm in handcuffs with my hands behind my back, and it wasn't widely crowded. It was halftime show most people in there, but you know, patriot fans like, hey president's going on these fuckers arrest me, take pictures. So they walked me down. I didn't realize at the time. They also took Frankie down. Frankie was a holding cell three three holding cells down in. There's this like police lady is like the one running. It's like a nice kinda sassy black lady the head police lay down there, and she's like, okay? What's he in for in? They're like videotaping Frank is like I have a ticket. I do anything in the lady looked at the NFL guys. Like, hey, this is America. You can videotape like get this kid outta here. Like, and they let him go. So Frankie got. Didn't nothing and he could actually probably have some sort of case unless you're say collusion with me. But how can you do that users? My I mean, you can't lawyer. I I'm pretty sure Frankie as a case. He did nothing. Just videotaped. They literally ripped up ticket and like detained and threw them in a holding. Yeah. I went holding cell from the second half with two absolutely. Obliterated. Dudes one stool, e who could not talk his voice is gone is a patriot fan. So I was in that cell for basically the entire second half. I didn't know what was going on. Finally, they called me out. And they put me cuffs again. In a cop took me out. Walk me literally out of the stadium. I'm talking. Well. It's a big entry way the SuperBowl. Takes a long time from the entry intimacies Benz to get to the street, so twenty five minute walk. He just walked me. And I'm like I was convinced. He was putting me in a police car. I thought I was going to upstate. I'm like I thought it was going to jail for like a week. And I could see them all talking and pointing at me for like forty five minutes straight, an NFL guy came up right to the glass took a picture my face. I just like smiled way. Hey, dude. So you're zoo. So they and they get to the end Mercedes Benz. And he just let me see your hands. And he just uncovered like see later, and I was just like out in the wild. There was maybe three minutes left in the game. So I just like race to I found this like a Hyatt fake Hyatt hotel. Whereas like five people I went in there and like watch the end of the game. I got in right at like the Goff interception. And that's what I saw at the end of the game. So then I went to the patriots post party, but I didn't have tickets because the NFL ripped up my tickets like I had the game part in rip them up. So I had to get I don't even remember I think Blake Bortles gave me his past into the party. So I got back into the patriots party pictures everywhere like people, so glad you're alive, like, blah, blah, blah, Ron knows it happened in obviously, this is my home base. I'm in there for fucking five. Hits talking aghast talking fucking, Blake Bortles security taps shoulders. Like, you gotta come with security. What post game yet the patriots post game? As like, what are you talking comes speakers security? Like, are you serious right now is yes. Like, all right. I was standing I wasn't going limp at the patriots party. So I walk over this to cops and another security guard. They're like you have to come talk to another security guard. I said why I'm like who do I have to talk to what is going on? Like, I don't know come with me. And we'll tell you. I'm not going anywhere. You bring whoever has a problem with me to me, and I'll talk to them. So they did. And they brought over this NFL, dude. Yep. You're outta here. Kid in as like, I'm getting kicked out of this party. And like by who I kept saying by who they actually said the guy's name is like Tom hunt, Tim hunt. I haven't watched the video that Bob. Bob hunt, head of NFL security. So and I'm like, wait a minute. This is the patriots part note NFL vent. You're banned from all NFL vents. Nobody said I could not be in this hotel Hyatt fucking regency. Like, no is an NFL vent. You're not welcome in any event the private events. I'm like the fucking crafts invited me the crafts gave me the tickets. Like don't care you're getting kicked out. So like, all right. Fuck it and start walking out. I was beyond another like seen. It was weird for me. A crowd started like gathering as walking out again. He keep in mind. This is the patriots post part where the Faulk you taken him like people getting mad at the. Oh, yeah. Off a pretty decent crowd. And I think the NFL guy start sense like we're going to have a little bit of a problem. If we kick them out of the patriots party, so they stop and more people start gathering, and I could hear him talking whoever he was talking to be like a crowd starring together. We're like we have an issue, then I think he said you call the patriots and see if they want him here. And then he he's like all right? Let me see your ticket. And I didn't I'm ripped it up. I don't have a ticket. He's like so you don't have to take. I can't let you say. Like you ripped it up. The guy knew eventually was losing situations, like find just stay and just walked away. So that was like a bigger win for me than well. They're all huge wins. But that was like that guy was so mad, and by the way, so much weeded me this. Bob hunt guy is Bob hunt guy is a pretty intimidating. It's like X platoon leader in the marines FBI counter terrorism. You name it. He's done it. And he's got a picture. He's. Thought it was bugged. It was like how do they find out? I was here that fucking quickly. There's like either I'm bugged her. They're just following me. Like Franken I early in the week thought someone's falling at Starbucks right now. What that's crazy. They're not falling. I think they were. Oh, man truck. Yeah. Yeah. So is crazy. It was crazy night. And then all the stuff going. I it it just couldn't. Here's what the NFL. I think is happening. The NFL keeps apprehending me. Like, you told me is gonna be detained three times in one week. Crazy, they keep doing it. And it's like, they don't know their next move. Like, I cannot believe I'm not in jail right now. Like they put the cuffs on me. They walk me around the drag me out of there, creating this whole scene for what? So he couldn't watch a quarter and a half of the game. It's insane. It's like Joyce. It's tail and they don't know what to do once. They get me there. Like, if I think it's like, well, if we put them in jail, this is now like a really good story. And it's like do we want that? No. So what are you doing anything? But it's coming really big story. Anyways, every time. I mean last night. It was these. I know everywhere people has the power. That's all that is. But I can still take away from. I want to feel like I have the power. Public. Yeah. He probably feels like, oh, you know, what I just told him. When you come away with these things like what could you undefeated when they were dragging me out, and I was dead fish. I should like fist pumped. I should. I got you. Like that's always felt like are you really doing this to me right now, it almost is like Goodell's a story or something. I mean, the amount of saying people guys rigged it this stage. Like, we we bought twenty tickets to the Super Bowl through on fake security stuff. How do we get dragged out manhandled putting in and parade like what are you talking about? And by the way, I'd be Al Pacino with my acting. If I could do that crate, it would also have been worth it. I mean, the amount of exposure, we got the amount of publicity that you got from the whole thing. It would have been fucking worth it. But they can't figure it out. I don't know. I what are they doing? I don't know what they get out of it when he was on the run down like Goodell has to be like he has. They don't know. They don't know what they don't know what to do with Dave board. They're they're befuddled. They're like what do we do with this? I feel like we're playing chicken. Like who's going to blink first the more? You do the more. I come back in the more. It helps me and it's like escalate until I think someone has to get shot. I mean, it's interesting too. Because there's no way they thought that they were taking you out of the party that a group of people were going to them and be like what the fuck are you doing attention? Not fucking. No. I don't know. To be popular and have a crowd forming. It's at the patriots. I have a text from one across me. Like, I heard what happened to the party. Thank god. It was rectified like that would have been like what are they doing? They just can't figure it out. They they would just ignore you. It would be way better off. It's I don't get me. You know, there's like a scene in like Braveheart where I heard well, malls ten feet tall. That's what they're doing. It's like they're growing like myth. It's like I wasn't doing anything. I I wasn't being like weird at the game. I wasn't doing. I was just sitting there. Just sitting there the myth of media. You just ask questions. Yeah. It's crazy. But I mean, this I'm paying customer literally watching the game doing nothing that has anything to do with the NFL nothing and the power when you think of the billions of dollars the NFL makes and how they're spending most of their sources on Sunday coming after you. It's it's it's something else. It's crazy. And then there's like I put out there was a stat. Like, we beat the NFL and like social media like with an well. Thank you, Roger. That's again. It's almost like he some crazy evil genius. That understands that it's promoting the rivalry is better. Like, Vince McMahon style it has to because I don't know how he can be this clueless. And not understand that every time he continues to detain you a ridiculous thing that we just get bigger. And better your myth grows bigger. That's what I'm saying. Like every fucking. Time in the last night was outrage you get dragged upstairs. Thank you. Because it did bring a little bit of excitement to the night. Very. The number one trend, I think freeport, my buddies text me today, really get arrested. I'm like, I'm watching the internet. Just like you caulking. Get dragged upstairs by like ten security. Oh, and it's like crazy. So at when I got kicked out of the out a Super Bowl party, the post party, again, there's the cops or very like almost like is this really happening in it sucks that we have to be listening the goons from the NFL, we know they're being stupid buzzer job. So we're going through the whole thing. There's a cop there. He hasn't said a word he's being a cop. And then when the NFL guys finally fuck it just like he's like are. You can stay in just like, you know, like a bully has been defeated storms off GOP just turns. It goes go pres- go. It's nobody's moving about. It's it's insane. That they can't see what they're doing. But I love it. I mean, I was I knew I told Frankie I go. Yeah. I people pop. Oh boy. Of mike. Are you there pal? All right. What's up, dad? Well, this might be the only chance ever get to talk to you just but you might be interested in what was going on at home. Your mother was alternating between laughing and crying. And I was staring at this whole thing with my what's the word mouth agape. Couldn't believe what it was saying. It was just an because my phone was I was getting messages all of a sudden left and right. Did you see this? And I wanna take I give you credit that you knew how to be limp like that. That was very impressive. I thought. It's not I don't think that's. Every well done. And I like they gave you wedge just kept going that was good. But look everybody's saying it's hard to believe that this guy is at stupid. It's just kinda hard to believe that. That's why you think it is. There's some ulterior motive that. We just don't know about. I can't imagine, you know, the only thing across my mind. I know people said this, but it's really crossed my mind God forbid, if there was any kind of a real terrorist attack, and they turned to shorthand we're the rest of the people that taken care of this dangerous blog. I know it's crazy that I think to be honest, the real Lauren force -ment, certainly understand that in that is why it never goes further. Once they fully process. What is happening? It's like what are we doing here in the NFL? I can see the little guys the they look like they have the same mentality as like overaggressive bouncer or overaggressive like mall cop. That's what these NFL guys remind me of their little earpieces, and they talk in their their pointing they're getting more agitated as they talked to the real police. We're just like he's doing what went doing. What are we doing? This is a major event. I forget how it appeared on the screen, but it was shot a Dell up in his boots. They're all huddling. Talking about we got a. As as it is like, they probably were. I don't wanna up anymore. But you know, the whole thing that's crazy. But the fact that you were there for the first half, and you're still looking for you. Well, that's again that was sort of similar before. I thought it was home free that I have a question. Did you hear the what the earlier part of what I said what they did to Frankie. I heard Frank yelling and frankens become your your son here. I have a question. I think Frankie could sue the league here because he he is no warnings. He's never done anything with the NFL at all. He had a paid ticket and he'd start taping me in a public place, and they ripped up his ticket and kick them out. Well, nothing else. It sounds like breach of contract. He had a contract to go to the game. He you can't just throw somebody out for no reason. I imagine they would try to come up with some kind of reason I think that radically. I think if they could establish that they thought they were I'm talking not so much, well, Frankie, but you that that they had a legitimate believe a legitimate belief, right or run that you were going to create some kind of disturbance. I think as a, you know, it's a private venue. They have a lot of latitude. And the fact that you bought a ticket. I think the remedy might be that, you know, they would return the purchase price of the ticket. The other thing. I found a mazing is all these warnings that you've got there's nothing in writing. Right. I thought that in they have yet. He just tell me they're like you're not allowed back here. Okay. Okay. Come back. There's nothing in writing. There's nothing like that was going to say, I there's no record of anything. What did they I say to you in the appreciate when you were sitting down? Come with me. Nossa? No. Yup. Yup. Come with me. I go. Nope. Yes. Not leaving. I pay for the ticket. I'm Watson the game. I'm not leaving. And then they just the that's when they pick me up and hoisted me way. A little advice to Frankie don't go to our adopting your attitude in his his life because get them in trouble, especially when you on round. That means. Only been. Let me not get his way. How my knocked what are you talking about? Now, you're Frankie not you. You have to do that. When you're with us because of my. What? You know, this is bad place for you. I think what do you like, I don't know what you're saying. Is Frankie very aggressive with them you do. And that's okay. When he's with you. But it might not work. So well, it wasn't. They were with him. Yeah. That point. We'll just retract it made no sense. In fact, I would go the opposite in my guy. Paul kaczynski. We hang up on him. Now tobacco's my my guy Paul has been out of the mud for too long. He was a gigantic. And I mean gigantic pussy out the patriots party. Like, he Frankie was not in yet. Obviously, we have tickets Paul did. So he was a no rush to get us in the party. He was drinking advocate time. Well, we're fresh out of prison just trying to get in. He's like I'll get to you wanna get to. But so he was in there before Franken was so he had to tape the second part of it. And he was trying to tape from a football field away. I had to tell them through times get fucking closer, Paul. So they can hear everything that's California gas has gone soft on us soft. And then he didn't wanna upload it. I'm like, we get this up. This just happens. I drinking. What does that mean drinking? He his. Reason he's drinking because he's I can't do it. How many fucking upload to Facebook album that took five seconds houses, not been, you know, Frank if that's Frank you sprint to tell. The get it up and all done. So Frankie is more in the mud now and aware like that's why my dad's crazy that's what Frank was there for you have to do that Frankie was great on your dragged out video to there's a boy, Frankie like switches angles and runs around down and gets his phone. He's like reaching over the phone eight plus work by all the way like in his video both getting separated by like the different people. They take ticket out. It was something it was. It was absolutely something. It'll be a night on their forget soubra week on never forget. And if the patriots back next year, I think it's like full disguises now. Yeah. I mean, I'm not gonna not go. It was all time that you showed up again with the moustache that looks alter ego. Won't be loved playing in the background dragged down. All right parcel radio. We got a lot more to get to the Super Bowl. We gotta talk about the game rowdy girls here. But the Rachel Bush rafters started that. So we got a lot more to get to parcel radio the Monday after SuperBowl Sunday again stick with us. Our power five lot more common. I radio second half of the show victory Monday. We're gonna wanna callers, obviously, people wanna talk to Dave talk to us at the night. You have the the parcel had the Super Bowl all that bullshit. So before we do that. There's these clips I saw for in Sessa francesa makes me laugh now nonstop there's a clip of him. They basically saying one hundred percent gonna be a high scoring game, which is very funny thing. But I don't know if this is it's a rant. I almost want to hear it in real time. Frankie from the fun house account and said at the game last night might francesa predicted a big plate of gronk in. Everyone's sitting nearby questioned turns out he was absolutely right. Looks like he's really ranting and raving about that prediction a love to hear that like real time. Like, you know, he's looking for gronk in that spot. What did he do hit grunk hit element hit grunk? You know, he's doing that. I called one wear gronk lineup. I said this sqi people. How do you take my word? There went people out. You know? There's an it's two minutes. But he goes radio row. We're not gonna have player just their products to us nonstop two minutes. People call them by being like, yeah. I'm here to promote them here. Who cares? Back on these lines. Kevin what's up? Kevin. What's up? Tell me about tell me about Zolak shown up the rubber rowdy. He have any idea where plan he was on what he was doing. Zolak in science. I think I think they call it a median like I don't know as oh starting point is because I've never seen Zolak. Not like out of his mind. Every time I've seen him. He's so jacked up. I mean, it just seemed like you wanted to deck. I mean, well, he was just he wasn't watching the fight. He was just for rough around. He was all over the place. The only thing that he kept saying maybe laugh, and I don't think he was joking which meant funny is every like five minutes by who is this referring rob FOX sitting right now. Maybe he was all over the map. Yeah. So it was it was standard Zolak. That's yet was oh lack. But yeah, he was out to lunch. It seemed like but yet that's all like. Yeah. And like, I mean, I mean, what do you think about doing just roughing rowdy around Super Bowl? Now. I mean. Rav arouse great. I know it's been probably talked about earlier radio the fights great. The mush I map. Brown was great. The chaos was chef was like something straight out of WWE. So that was great. We should've started later in the night. We learned that because the crowd really walk Lockton. I mean, it was over walk. Walk was taking red-carpeted who breaking the ring down. So yeah, we start later great event and people loved it is very different than everything all the parties of the same fucking shit. This is very different was it Jared idea to help the ring girls in. No, we told him to do that we need somebody. Do it the ruling. Yeah. The rocket. Christian. What's who else? First off go press. Go citizen of Atlanta. I'm honored that you had the electricity in the martyrdom to take one for the team for the brand. I love it. I cannot wait for the day when I can get a fad head for my living room of the president of the mustache glasses incognito. Pres- leaning up against the wall. Do you think that's possibility? I mean, maybe one day fan has there's been made. I mean, I wouldn't recommend doing on your own I want that's like super fans to put it on your own thing. But yeah, we'll look into the fat that call why what's up? Mom, man, pleasure. Talking to you. And the rest of the most talented true out there right now. Thank you wanting that no one is talking about is the color of the hair ties that Tom Brady's daughter was rocking last night. In my opinion. They're the exact same color as the two clown shirt who in it'd be classic Tom Brady to find a subtle way to send a big rebellious. Fuck you too. Roger Goodell as he's up there collecting the most titled in human history. I question for you is of that. Do you agree with my Nelson's? Yes in do you think it was intentional? Yes. I'll take your comments off air. Yes. I think he absolutely to that. I will say I regret not being part of the booing of Roger Goodell that I relish, I relish booing. The fuck out him try to get kicked out. There's nothing you can do about strew Chuck what he got. What's going on? Kgo pres- go. What a week and content with laid up on the couch all week out sick from work is taking it all in. Thank you for that. But my question, you is would Roger Goodell being good you guys playing ball when you guys be bad for barstool sort of like the way Howard Stern, you know, when he went from terrestrial too serious. You just sucked half of his content. We shitting on the SEC fighting with program managers. You know, have this best storyline getting taken out of there. Like fucking rag doll. There's no doubt. I mean, we've said that publicly he disarms us if he's like, here's a credentials. We love you guys. Like, yeah. But maybe like, maybe the new guy you should spit in his face to you know, I think you should keep this going maybe get dragged out of as much as you can. I mean, I, yeah, it's hard. I mean this garage is natural. I Roger Goodell is a slime ball who violated basically the constitution with the way handled the flake eight, and that's what made me. Hate him. So I mean, it wasn't like I hated him before that I I really didn't pay much attention to but Africa tried to screw us a hit as natural. All my all my enemies shadow coach office, by the way, pick against pages every week. All my enemies are natural. They're real people. I don't like nothing is contrived the amount of people saying we staged this shit is like even when we went to jail, the first time do I I didn't know is going to jail in. It was for our readers not to get external headlines. I never do. We entertaining to our readers will what's up? What's up guys? They do. Good. First question was you think that anyone tipped you off tip to tip the security off cure in there? And what was the guy saying they were trying to get you out of there? No, I don't think tips off because it's almost all patriot fans and was like high fiving the whole game the security guys just get up. Come with me. I said, no. Then we play that game for like two minutes. And then they just hoisted. You don't think somebody saw? Yeah. That wasn't a fan of you. And Senator somebody was there a rumor there was like a text number you'd like so I would. That was real. There's imagined. Officious or whatever you can text the line. So I don't think it's that outside the realm of possibility someone who's whatever maybe if they're just big Rams fan now that they've been text and he's over here. Maybe seem like nobody. Yeah. May he wanted to cut it? Yeah. For now. But will love me tomorrow. It's respect. That's yeah. Tommy, what's up? Going on recently start falling barstool and whatnot. And I've gotta ask where's this hatred between you guys the NFL stem from to placate? Like you dealt do that just for you guys. But. Does Godot hate it. All started. That's yeah. We protested at the NFL headquarters after suspended Brady for four games and spent the night in jail. I'll do it. That'll do it a such a genuine like he came to the realization how it happening. It makes sense Eddie what's up. Get them. Need some advice? We through a big ole Super Bowl Super Bowl party with boys and one of the guys so's up with his girlfriend, like brand new girlfriend. She's wearing Jean jacket. That's all the dazzling got his nickname on the bag and stuff like that to standing there taking pictures in front of the TV, you know, all the food the whole time. How do we tell them to get rid of her and dumper killer? No, I think that the kind gesture just music are in a loving relationship. Daniel what's up? Hey, what's up? Are you doing good? How are you? All right. Thanks question for you. I saw video and everything man. That's bullshit. But the in Goodell give craft another Lombardi the that make it like any better at all. Or the like I understand how you'd be pissed kicked out. But I've tried to be kinda sweet, you know, great that. That's great. It does make it feel a lot better. Listen, the crazy thing is like I understand the hatred in everything that was going on during the flake gate tensions were high. I get that we're removed from that. So I thought there was a chance that give me today credentials. I really did. And then none of us happens. It's like far enough removed. But now it's and clearly when I've been manhandled I mean that headline in the New York Post parcel, founder manhandled NFL security. I wrote there. Going to give you a media credential. I thought there was a chance. Yes. That's a prices me. We'll, but because it's the smartest thing that could do but history which would say that that's not what we're going to. We were there last year in. Nobody said word who snuck in in noise at word. Right. But you last year, so why wouldn't you was credentials? The first year. No. But for Denver Carolina. Denise nica. I did it outside of the v. I think yes. Correct. Correct. Correct. I saw golick today after media day, and he was he was asking about that. And he was like that's why when when they walk into the next he's like, they took my badge. They fell lifted. They put it inside out. I wonder if they looked at me, then what? And make sure it was me. Yep. That was. Media day is a joke. The fact they get riled up about media day isn't Saint there's literally like clowns people dress in little clown, suits. It's open the public. Anybody can go. It's a joke. They they get mad about joke. They won't credentials for that. If you write for your high school paper, you can say not a problem. So that's again. That's why I think that it would have made a lot of sense for them to legit just give all of us. Just give us like they did at the US open just give everybody all Barsha people credentials because they give everybody credentials. Anyway, we go in. We do our thing. It's not a big back and forth. It's not a big issue. And who cares? Who cares Tyler what's up? Hey thing start off first of all congratulations on the win last night. And obviously betting I know you did good there. I wanna know why Goodell being such a fucking hand job. I mean, we don't have that answer. We're going over it. We don't have that answer there there. I agree. There's something major. We don't know. He's we, you know, you never know. What Barzel does he have a daughter did was daughters smoke show? Like something is there's something going on beyond the Perfil that we don't know about have we done something beyond the stuff, I know about which can happen that I don't know. Because that's the only thing that can explain it. It's a personal grudge that that he has. Nobody knows that. I think it's just I think it actually makes a lot of sense that he's just from all his body of evidence. He's just kind of a detached from reality alien the way that he's mishandled ticked all of the big scandals and the NFL and the way that he's handled us makes it seem like he just doesn't get it. It's a power trip. Yeah. It's just a combination. I wanted to be this logical explanation. Could just beat that is no pulse on the on the people on the fans, and like how they're going to react to things and we own that pulse. And and our. We are one with that whole crew. And therefore, it makes sense that he mishandles how it's going to appear to the fans, and he mishandles us who represent the fan wants compared him to one of the great villains of all time, I'm knocking his name people get mad, but it rhymes Littler. In. That's how he acts like he does everything on his own takes, no advice. Nobody tells them. No, his lackeys clearly the security follow directions in you end up in these situations, which like you look back. It's like these poor security guard that some day they're going to be like, I can't believe I just blindly followed orders. Like, it's embarrassing Tristan. What's up? How's it going good? Anymore energy? I'm already. Yeah. What are the odds? You guys actually sue the Commissioner for Frankie say slim. I don't know if he has a case, it would be funny. But I I doubt it I would say that's low. Odds are dammit Xavier what's up. Yeah. I got a legitimate question. So I'm a big pack fan. I'm glad they want. But how do you feel about Tom Brady, given Robert Kraft a nice kid? I don't care what he does make out with them, do whatever they're like you in six rolls. You fuck on the field. I want same thing. Tom. What do you got? Hey, dave. How's it going? Good. Well, first off, let's go number six. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. The only thing better than six Tom Brady. The only ring better the only ring I like more than this one is the next one. Exactly seven better than six. Yup. I got a question for you. Yup. I assume you're going to be supreme tomorrow. No. I don't think I am actually. Not. No, I don't know back to do radio the parades. Tomorrow. I haven't been to a parade believe it or not since I one of the early Super Bowls. I was not invited on the duck boats. I didn't expect to be inviting duck does. So there's nowhere else you'd be on a duck boat. They invite me on the duck boats. I would go I don't have that carapace red sock clout other than that one not going to stand on straight all day. Yeah. Yeah. Get drunk, you know, but also you can be Super Bowl next year. Of course, the path that going back, of course of the past will be there. I'll be there dumb. Yeah. Absolutely. Hopefully, get Dow gets his stick out of his ass. They let you watch the whole game next. Well, here's the thing. You want up the ante? Roger you want start carrying me out with an atomic wedgies thile. That's fine. But I'm going up the ante now. Now, I know is real in now on star playing minding. I'm not just going to let this platoon commander this FBI guy just have open season on me dodging and weaving. You've seen what there's a lot of examples, but Vive what if is just we end up to Portland mass. And there's like two thousand of them all over the place. We're gonna start you you want to go to like, that's the thing. That's why says chicken like this is great for me. I got nothing lose magic share Barsha ready alive for the Super Bowl. We're all just wearing Dave. Downtown portent we face. Whatever the Miami version of the ideas everybody that comes in. And there's just a million Portnoy fake, or we even bring back the clown into it. I mean, we could on the clouds L. It was all patriot fans. But there I got an article somebody's trying to sell them us their research. But it was accurate. It said that my like detainment generated if we trying to pay for the amount of publicity six point five million dollars. That's how much the cost. It's more than a commercial out strong millions of dollars. Well, I think he's like booking story or something. Not get maybe he's like a silent advanced investor intern. And he won. He can succeed. Honestly of all the things all the conspiracy theories that somehow he's in bed with Sharon. That's the only one that makes any sense that would be awesome. This whole time. What's that? What is that wrestling? It was me. Oh, it's Vince McMahon. It was me the whole time Austin. It was the whole time you go to your next meeting you have churn out from behind the door walks Roger L, and he's like go pres- go. Literally as insane. As it is. It's the only thing that makes us read a sense. Some of a bit. Like your dad? It's me. Let's take Chris. What's up, Chris? What's up guys? Odds wanna shout out read for making the hall of fame for one great player. No doubt. You. Absolutely. He's the boss to go around Baltimore. I'll tell you that great play. I mean, you got Ray Lewis too. But you go, you gotta read really complicated. Yeah. It's it's it's a it's a whole debate. You can even have, you know, internal, you know, like ravens fan debate there. But you know, we're not. That's that's the only thing I wanna say. I'm a big fan of Brady. I'm a big fan of Julian album, even big fan of Bella check. You know, he's from Napa Lewis local boy, but I don't think any fan base should have the power. You guys have. I mean, I I don't know. I don't know how I'd live. If I wasn't patriot fans lemon put that way. So you basically just look at us. And you wonder how are we alive? Your life stink. Yeah. I mean being a patriot fans better than being fan of any other team. Miles certainly in. It's just really stunning. I mean, it's the the last twenty years twenty years is so unbelievably long. They've won three other Super Bowls to in the end or what other people would consider like the lemmings forty one years old. Now, Tom Brady that they've won three wasn't like they sprinkle them all throughout the middle one three right away. And then they've won three at the end. It's unbelievable that a dynasty could spend that long. I saw some stat. And I forget the middle part. But like Brady's playoff career started to twelve. And then it was like I mean twelve and two in then it was something like two or what it wasn't great in the middle. It was below five hundred. And I was twelve and two again, it's see that's just that's just quarterbacks that watched him play when they were little babies how much the game has changed. Football's changed dramatically. How many different guys of come through all of that injuries? The parody. How it just becomes more and more about parody the NFL throughout except for them. They're still there nine suit realize these so outrageous. So it's frustrating. We don't want to give you the credit. But I don't know what else is why eve. Even when we lose the Super Bowl, Mike, whatever we're still like, we're still the kings. I know the teams will say they are. But you're not. And what do they what's L? Check get twelve draft picks next year this year. I don't even know. Twelve draft picks. So by all accounts, like they're only going to continue to get better Brady continues to this game. Certainly again in the only debate there the Brady Bill check, this one helps Belgium here's people like his scheme was like unbelievable. But you know, Brady's had basically perfect Super Bowls to a degree till this one. But he's still the driveway needed. Matthew. It's up. Hey, dave. How would you have you seen movie? This is the end. Yes. James ferry code, Dan McBride. I answered yes of Danny McBride. Yes. So you remind me of Danny Danny McBride at the end of the movie and Channing Tatum represents Roger Goodell actually think it'd be great t shirt yet. I got to the bell shirts. I don't really know what that means. I think. Seen that movie us. Maybe people always say that for Dave. I haven't seen it. So I don't know a little bit. No. Join this Pulp Fiction. You know, what was a again give him. You know, what video? I don't wanna throw Casey under the bus. But we were it was me. So she was somewhere else. She didn't go to the game. We I met her out in front waiver Frankie to go into the patriots party because we never tickets in. So standing up front, and I haven't seen anything, and I'm watching the footage of the arrest for the first time, and she started videotaping site to get my reaction in the middle of it. Chris long walks up man of the year, and he's like awesome job tonight. We didn't get it on video. It would. Best to have man of. Yeah. Yeah. I love what. Would've been that's tough like have walking buys saw me came over like hugged. He's like one a job. So you get that. She no outta what's up? Yeah. Great job last night press fucking better most important for watching you do that. What point is Goodell reach out to be like almost called a truce because you beat them so bad. I we've discussed it. I don't think it's happening. This is a footloose seen tractor seen. I don't know if you've seen that the footloose tracks or seeing what is the song they play on that Frankie. What's a song? They play on. It's a banger. Find the footloose tractor seeing. We'll just get the song. But it's Kevin bacon. In the the the local townsman in driving tractors at each other in chicken until one guy swerves, Kevin bacon. Shoelace gets caught on like getting out. So he can't get out. He wins by default where onto tractors right? And I don't know who the hell's going on because I think it's gotta be him. But it doesn't seem like it's going to be him. I know it ain't gonna be me. It'll be the next Commissioner. That's what I think. Yeah. I agree. It'll be a changing of guard. And then that personal you know, it'll diffuse the situation that gives credentials. With that. Let's just ride that right into a break. Parcel radio will be back in a few. Robin Hood is an investing apt to let you buy and sell stocks ETF's options and cryptos all commission free. Well, other. Brokerage is charge. You up to ten dollars for every tree. Robinhood doesn't charge any commission fees. 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Tommy conversation, much better to be Wednesday than it is to be Tuesday. Which is awesome. Feels great. So it was kind of fucking me up the whole time Atlanta through a week. Oh, that's just kind of messed with my brain, regardless. We are back. It's myself and Tommy for now days here somewhere, I believe sauntering way in here right now. So we got we got the squad. We've got the boys right now. I believe I'm looking what's up? Join me was that supposed to be the people listening to sweep sound of my voice. Enjoy me because I don't think making I'm your noodle city. I could fall asleep. Br I'm just doing nothing. I eight three thousand convenience you got the biggest coffee ever seen in my life of renew. I'm so I just need to sleep. I just need to sleep. I three noses today. Three bloody noses at is. When Dave Portnoy has worked himself to the bone. My body says tap out one-two-three were out butting that's going to start some rumors. Well, it can start all sorts of rumors it happened during the terrorist man hot. I just I hit a point where it's I've worked so hard so long so consistently. I just break in. That's your breaking symptom. You start bleeding to your nose. Correct plano's. I look you were telling me you have my permission to head out whenever if you were wondering I have no problem with it. Yeah. I yeah. I mean, I just wanna go to bed as one put my head down a pillow. And goes, I don't blame it yesterday. Was a stressful show you came out swinging yesterday your. A lot of lot of people scrambling based on that one scrambling. Have we gotten any reports back over the last twenty four zero. Yeah, I have a lot more. I will be going to ask our, okay? They told a five hundred next weekend. I have to be there Saturday. Well, I have to be there Sunday. I'll probably get there Saturday. Some of the other guys getting into a bunch of stuff on Saturdays the Indy. Three hundred Saturday. That's like the minor leagues. The d league's of sorts. We are doing a show before the race alive show hosted by chaps. I'll be on it. We welcome everybody. Come watch. I'll probably be making fun of NASCAR. Or like, basically asking what it's all about telling you what I know. Maybe just like a true fault. Is this true NASCAR everyone likes? It's a redneck question. You know? Shaking back shaking. Make is it like can only like five people win because their cars better team, just whatever. So maybe get a load of the atmosphere. Maybe do a fashion show. That was Ron's idea like that some NASCAR fashion. Yeah. Yeah. You see chaps chaps NASCAR fashion yesterday. I did not he began his show. He was dressed head to toe in his NASCAR. I think he has a Cheerios outfit. That's awesome. Like, Harry, cool. It was like yellow. Cheerios. I would hope so borstal borstal. Yeah. So I am going to Daytona five hundred bunch people semi pizza places. Frankie you are going to the Daytona five hundred do some piece of us. Maybe Saturday night grads, Frankie, so looking forward to it. Yeah. Davey nascar. What we learn a lot about it yesterday. So you should be good to come. Yep. Wreck restrictor plates drafting dirty air circles bit stop can be two to four hours the race. Which is a weird window to think, you know, how cars? Or a hobby. That's something. I've long debated. What do you think where you where you stand? I think is a sport. I think the. Can you call the driver's athletes? Will if it's a sport that you have to. It's gonna be like hand eye, right? I don't is jockey NFL eat. Well, then you got a call racecar driver. It's the same exact thing basically driving like high powered cars animals. It doesn't matter. If you're the best jockey in the world, if you're on slow horse. You're gonna lose a slow car. You're gonna lose you need the fast car, if you have similar cars driver matters similar horses in the jockey matters. Probably takes a little more ability to rot horse though. Why you got like jump up there and ride? I mean car to sit down. Cars going to eighty miles an hour. Whatever you're doing the same thing of just like sitting there. But it's like jockey. He's our he's standing up he's crossed. But I think what I've heard it's incredibly difficult and strenuous physically inside the car. Yeah. It's like if there's a wreck in front of you, your your reaction to get out. Now the thing with race car drivers, which I've always like the Pettis is these families that have like, you know, everyone gets the thing is who the Faulk racist grows up racing cars unless you're in a race car family, where do you do that? Like, I've never raised a car. How do you get into that at a young age? Right. It's a legal. That's why there's true. That's why I think, you know, while they are athletes the barrier to competition. I don't think is like you don't have a middle Scott middle screwing racing team. Though. You do not like there's some like, I there's some people that could just never been like, I I don't think you could say there's people just can never be a great. Well, an NBA player could never be racecar driver the car. Yeah. That's fair. Got it. We don't have any person. I know what you mean going there Caleb excited. He says a great time NASCAR wants us there. They wanna crowd to watch it. We'll see. It's exciting barstool does NASCAR. You do. Get an outfit. I guess. I'm just gonna wear Jordan in probably wife beater. Perfect. And you got bring a shit ton of beer, lots of beer overall, like denim overalls. Let's daytonas probably warm. Yeah. I'm thinking like, yeah. There's no sleeves on. They're like this one's overall shorts. I guess I don't even know what you'd call it. Maybe timberlands. In a wife beater with like a coffee stain on it. Perfect. I you nailed it. You're great. You're fit right in. Thank you. Yeah. Maybe shave till the next two weeks. I haven't shaved since the Super Bowl. I'm talking something like this. But like a men's version. Yeah. That's what I thought. And then that's why replied, so Tommy show me pictures, like a full, gene jumpsuit. Dad? Oh, and then cut the show short. Kind of like a farmer. Yeah. Basically, I've basically been putting the two in my head to literally describing farmer. Yeah. All right. Cool. Well, barstool will be at NASCAR next weekend. Very very interesting crew. Chats is all BT just chat all ZBC Caleb ZBC in me, and Frankie, and Frankie what a hell of a ragtag true. Love. It will be at the Daytona three hundred and the Daytona five hundred they'll be three hundred maybe. Date will be pizza. I imagine you're gonna get plenty of requests about I've already gotten a bunch a bunch sent to me really people saying good pizza. I've heard Daytona like said is the redneck capital of the world. Can make some interesting pizza review. Get a couple of rednecks coming by what you guys process on vetting which spots because I bet you get thirty forty fifty different pizza place distance. Oh, you mean when we travel? Yeah. Pizza place. How many have been reviewed in the one bite out as a big thing. We try to find you know, we can narrow down pretty quickly when we start going places because we get tons of suggestions. But the same couple always be mentioned. Gotcha. So that makes a lot of sense the Bucknell documentary the second episode. It says on our sheet that comes out tonight. If that's not true, not true comes out a week from tonight. Correct. Next wednesday. Correct. So trailer has dropped though the trailers out there. It is. It's a hell of a teaser an appearance from her name. Yes. She's the big money moneymaker in this one. A lot of people want to hear from her. I haven't seen it. I heard quite emotional. It is you have. Yeah. I've seen parts of it. Did you cry? I was I was getting there. I haven't seen the whole interview. I think if I did maybe okay. I've heard it something. That's very exciting. I heard I did laugh because like the beginning of the trailer is your dad again. And I was just like Jesus Christ. I mean, my dad's getting just get out of here. I mean enough him. He was not happy about the way the radio yesterday in what sense. Well, he he. He was calling it the lone survivor. The new show is going to be called the cousin with cousin Murray. Well. If he continues down this path. He said he thinks it's it sounds like I'm trying to jump ship and that he's going to get fired by sun. And that leaves this show one hour solo show Murray, we did a whole half hour this morning. He was he was a little bit upset and everything we tried to talk about he just made little quips and jokes about. Oh, he's quite upset who would be your number one replacement. If you're gonna give up posting. It's tricky gotta find someone who's willing to get up early. I would say this is a company mostly because I think the nature of what we do that we watch sports too late in the night and comment on them and get blogs and all that that like we're not an early company. So you got finds somebody who's in here in okay to be in here early. Which is tricky mardi mush has been hilarious on there. But he I don't think he could possibly be consistent host. I mean to deal with the devils. What you did that's pretty much it. I look I love those too. They're oh, they're also been they've been really getting into lately about a second episode. Second running a second annual cousins retreat. Log yourself. Also could care less Marty. A mardi do cousins just send Marty down to stay with your dad for your you're getting unfortunately rigs into the age, you're dealing with people who just like company. They just want. The like you said the midst of I gave my dad. Yes. Somebody talk to every day for our the best way. I've ever heard the show described to people who just want company. I mean. My wrong. People. That's what they do is just let me talk to somebody here on this case this big audience. It really is remarkable. Yeah. Most like old people get like a dog or something. Yeah. I got a national serious care about them for like ten minutes these to show serious radio show. That's a hundred percent what happened to them, man. What a scary world. Now, they funneled everything that they want to say just instead of saying over the course of twenty four hours. They just get to say during one hour. Yeah. And that's what they do people listening, and weather's truth or not acting like they care, but like interest in what my dad has. Mitzvah. How often did those to talk like not on the radio? So the we like they the way that I take it, and I could be wrong on this. They can correct me on this is that they used to talk pretty much throughout the day every day. They would just whenever something would pop up on their mind that they wanna discuss whatever they see on the CNN scroll. They would just call each other and just vent about it. Now the way that like the show begins and ends it seems to me like they haven't really talked to each other since the last show, and like I said, they try to cram stuff into the end of the show like your data. I'll be like Mary you had over there around seven tonight. I get the sense that they for whatever reason feel that their conversation lands confined to the show. Gotcha drilled into their heads. Save it for the show so much that they feel like they're only allowed to communicate. So that's kind of what we do every single morning. It's an interesting thing. I have a question. So yesterday, obviously, you kind of we're going in on the team on the sales team all that the heart is you haul up motivation, your motivating the sales to motivating the troops the hardest you've ever gone it on somebody of are still. Hardest. I've ever seriously gone on some of them. Sure, I've gone Gaz quite a bit Lewis the old days. I'd go in every once a while will yesterday you just told caz like shut the fuck up caz when he came and went in that one time with Frankie fairly hard one. Like, you're not doing your job. You're gonna get fired. And he claimed his dad won't give him back. His job at the pizza places. Okay. That was early into that was right out of the gate is probably month in front of us doing nothing. He was useless really not doing anything. And I'm like, you aren't doing like, you're just not gonna make basically I'm going to have to let you go this unchanged. And he literally was like I can't my dad won't give me back. My job at Borelli. On what planet would miss it? Really? Hell Mary through rigs landed tossed the ball up. He took it. And I was like all right. I got another month in me. Turned out pretty well actually in on Brett during this Sports Illustrated swimsuit that wasn't face to face. But that was the mall. I forgot about that was the meanest in like angry. I've ever seen you ever to this day. Yeah. I. This is very exciting. It was. So we did pizza views of the red sports straight red carpet. And Brett was in charging all the pizzas. And he got all the pizzas. Putting like so we have like twenty boxes and no idea where any of them were from. So it's like he had put the receipt on what there's isn't just no way. And I think he said something about well the box. It's like, they're all standard boxes. Yeah. So I went crazy on him for that just screaming at them screaming at him saying meet if things as you could. Very mean. Oh, and the bubbly Yang when I at I want, but nana's when I found that out on on the the leader the bubble Yang. I mean, I went crazy on him. You mean, which which incident exactly when I found out about it the first time? Gotcha. When he orchestrated the everybody tweet about the bubbly at the same exact time on noon, and it looked like we owned it. And I found out what is this? I called him up and went beserk when you had explicitly told him do not cross. Correct. And then he played the dumb car. Like, I don't know that happened. So what? Yeah. No. I went crazy on him during that I won't crazy one time to on Barzel an agent for during a tour for pose ner Gaz heard that one you know, that scene like from planes trains, veal's always like I want to fucking car. Right. The fuck now. Every word out of my mouth was an F bomb. I mean, everyone like equal and talk when I get mad. I just don't let I like just very mad. I actually wouldn't mind bread on radio. I get Bill Brett backup. Brett I've broken bride. I feel like he's just a mouse. Right. He had a couple of weeks where you really went on them. Yeah. Often he wasn't even around. He was just a mouse. I talked a little bit that rough rowdy, but he's been neutered. Wow. That's how I feel. Do you feel like breads been neutered lately? The mouse comparison, he's just become kind of a quiet mouse last week. I think that that's feels correct. And now that I look at the history over the last two or three weeks and he's been broken. I broke bre you don't want. You don't want it to come like wreak from game of thrones. Yeah, we're not there yet. No. I. Wreaked sits over there. Your little section of of the deaths. He doesn't say anything I like Merriman is human. I broke him. You got a break people sometimes build them back up. But he in Harry is. Take a seat. He said what hap- very wreaked? So I I was gonna do privately. But I feel like so Brett's in here. I'm very happy that it's happening publicly. Well, it's always very public. So I've been playing you this. But I feel like I've broken you. I feel like you're a mouse. Now, like, I feel like I I'm not a mouse. But like mouse. A mouse in the sense of like, you're very quiet like I didn't see at all during soup. I don't even know where you were. Always I wasn't there. I didn't come 'til Thursday Saturday morning. So you've ever I briefly. Yeah. The rough around here. So yeah, I feel like, you know, I like you as a person, I don't know what was going on. But I feel like you're broken right now. You don't know what you're doing? You just kinda like, you know. No, it's just it's just new stuff like we see each other less by virtue of what I'm working on now. So it's his which is working on like, the the the temples and the content that we're building the next couple of months here. It's like building out. What can we sponsor and what like what aspects of the Rijvers Whitney match? Can we put in front of the the brands of the world and and made money for parcel? Got it house. Tell me what do you? As lodge near face answer. The plan a little bit there. Ten polls rigs and Whitney which isn't happening until the summer, but we're trying to sell it now. So instead of three weeks. We're built I'm building the PowerPoint and shit like that we build out the content plans once you dream lights work with sales with sales, and and content people. Yeah. So. Not what you do anymore. I do division when it's like when we need it. So we have a couple activating people now. And if we're in a pinch where like the triplets guys, we kind of didn't have anybody the author and do it. That's where do you have about the chiklis trip? No. I I actually that was like that showed me there. Those guys worked so fucking hard out there. It's so cool to watch them operate in like in a behind the scenes way, and we actually worked so hard. Yeah. When he was working his ass off and biz they were working all day. They were great. And we actually ended up the with new Amsterdam. They ended up enjoying the content so much that they send the contract. So it was like. It was all worth in the end. And let me say this that a big part? And I understand that like during that whole thing. It was it was it seemed for posturing that we would have this big of a crew out council all in and floppy doing the same thing. But I do think it's important do lecturing everybody breadth, though, it's better drinking buddy bet salad. I mean you were doing during. I do think that's a little bit of a narrative got spun a little bit how Dana and I we went to the game. I had like three beers. And then we Dana. So we went to we went to the just we were working on Sunday game patriots game. Yeah. And then we we went home after the game. He went back to though because I had to work on a PowerPoint and Dana had added stuff. So we just left after like three beers. We just happened to be in the pan of biz going across the table. Dow wasn't the only pan urine urine quite a few of those. I've seen the one the one video where like throwing beer off the ceiling. That's the one I've I've seen, but we were there for three hours for the basically from tip to associate yourself too. Closely with the Gaz brand. I will how what's the dad's brand stock right now. We'll gas brand stock is the market. It's almost like off the Mark. It's like it's like. It's a walk. It's not it's not really a stock. But we already have one gas. Right, right. So. He seems unlikely that we'll have to. Yeah. Well, what I was going to say was that? I think of an to kind of help bread out is that I think good justification was that this was a huge trip for spitting chick quits. They were going to have huge guests. They were going to do big things. The previous bitten sicklets trip had been a disaster. Production-wise true. And therefore they really make sure that it's not production. Correct. But he's a liaison. I know enough about it to kind of make sure. Sure as on. I think a liaison between content and the second floor is important. I think Brett like understand the content parcel so understand what the conflict people like ask are at all. No. I haven't been involved in NASCAR. Because kinda was coming together. While we were out west, and that was more being built like here at that point. And then so we're trying our who who is MBA liaison. Yes, she's a liaison. Kind of we have a couple of them. Now at this probably as on the. The NBA's more on the and the division side of things. I'm more of light. We're building we're trying to build the golf stuffer ridge, Whitney or or horse racing to rigs and Whitney. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No. We do we have. We like Brad tries to from Ohio. I understand his job. I don't really explain job before Brett like is he he brings together content and the second floor, which we've had problems with that in the past where the second floor can feel very robotic. They don't understand exactly what we do. Or they don't understand how like were going to be feeling mending a partnership or a sponsor with like what we really do. And having someone that understands both of those things that bring bringing together has been a problematic position, I feel like at barstool in the past. And from what I understand bread has moved more into that role in terms of who's your boss Nick on the second floor. Have you lying totally said, I knew that was I was gonna say who's from New Zealand. Oh, okay. Car crewcut bolt. Oh, he was in my office today. I didn't see him. Yeah. He's on NASCAR. So he so then why won't because I'm focused like once the deal is been like signed and goes to execution of it. I'm less that now and more pre- ahead of the sale kind of making like the material for the spring training thing we're doing Megan the materials that go to brands, and then they say, okay, you have this. This this coming out, content wise, here's the price. And I don't set the price. We kind of do we set up with the kind. It's going to be and then bring that to a brand. So I'm I'm ahead of the actual signing of the contract. And then after that is less me unless it's in a pinch. Let's trip and then I get called into action. Okay. A lot of words. I will say it's a very good sign that new Amsterdam during. During. The Frankie and he gave the Michael Jordan. Shrug like, I don't know what he does. I mean, I've try all I do. Now is try to put money in your pocket. That's that's my job ipod. Yeah. I don't get money anymore. I wish. Yeah. Barstools? I don't get it. It's a great sign that the trip that you were on new Amsterdam reordering the trip. And I mean, those guys are awesome. They're great. They're awesome. What do you think the NASCAR people could have done better? If you were involved with that deal. What would you have done differently? I don't I don't know what the deal is like specifically. So I don't I don't know. Besides communicate better. Go get in front of Dave and say, here's what we're going to sell are you cool with this. And if he is great if he's not switch this put that in whatever. All right. How'd you good spirits better? Life thought I was you say this. I don't know that this was felt like a Bill backup conversation. No, what's as soon as they set out. Oh sharply thinks he's doing a great job. Why? Exactly, he's unconquerable. I. Uncon- conquerable uncomfortable. Oh, I feel like bread does work very hard. Thank you. I believe I think like Brett was also for minor stained doing a job of someone who left like a year ago who was a away higher up position. Who was look working on analytics for programming. Brett went through and looked at all the analytics from those and you talked about Mark. Yeah. But all right. But like if that was such an award giant office every single day, right but Brett works now. Like for for the last six months, whenever I post videos or never post different things we've worked with Brett to understand the scheduled to try to maximize the value of each video when it goes out in for my understanding, he's looked at the previous performance of what we've done gone through use that data to then tell us when to put stuff me that's a lot of work has mentioned that he does in this little try not to str-. I mean, there's data guys now that we have downstairs to. But you you told me everything you do he just gives that's now like as of January first is the new the new. New light sales presale stuff that like the last six months. Eight months since Martin had left has been more. Like, the pro. That's what you're doing with me. Like in the fall to assume with everybody else with Onny with whoever's putting videos up. Swiss army. They kind of a I'm not gonna say that because Dave doesn't like to spread out. Some of you don't say liaison, either come up with a better term, drinking drinking, buddy. Key build them up. You say something nice, you want a mouse a read. He's he's says a lot of words. Thank you. Okay. I'm doing pretty good. He's got a little a little color in your face. Now. Feel better every time you walked in this room. It's like, it's not easy. Didn't do anything. Specifically, you talked a lot. How's that for Billingham up? Now. I think we'll take it. I think it's probably the best walked out. We'll take one. I agree. I. I mean, there's nothing specific is I felt bad. I felt like I hadn't seem felt like you just mouse and around, you know, usually seem all time SuperBowl week seem at all. So the only day at rough rowdy. How did how did can I just battered Super Bowl? How did the the spider crew do with like the spot? I'd say spider did phenomenally for me. I will say my different arrangements, and jumping spider was very proactive. It's like he was getting stuff before I even knew as Nita say spotted, very good. I agree. Excellent. That's the Tommy Fordham code injury. Yeah. A little different than spider some of his predecessors similar. I didn't seem really drinking partying at all. During he was at working in time. Some of the other people who have been assigned to do things like that like the the Gaz Merryman of the world, they they get caught up in the party a little bit. I didn't notice that from spider at all. I don't think I'd I had well that wasn't a shot at you. You just happen to be in the sentence. It. Not the name name. The world like notorious when he's supposed to be filming. He forgets and won't feel like Frank. He's good at that. Even at the game. Like he's there to get me during the game. So yeah, I mean, the Mary of gases, and sometimes I feel like they're there for the party. But don't take that as no snow. Personal attack in the least I like gas a lot. All right. We're good Brennan think you've got gotta really need to succeed. We know that it's just when people what do you do? Just keep talking. You'll hit on something in a sentence. I help decide what not decide what content that was gonna come out very poorly. I'm gonna backtrack there. I haven't even gone to your city. I know. But I like I help refine what these guys want to do what you wanna do. And put it in front of people to get sold ahead of where we've been doing the past. Okay. That's good. I actually have good sentence more of that. And if we're using nascar's example that wasn't done at all like nobody's like, hey. We haven't ask are what are your thoughts on things we could do that wasn't at all. And that generally does cause strife once like, hey, we have this package. What are your thoughts on what would work that? I that was never brought to me ever any point. Could. He used a liaison. Some would say liaison would have been nice. Yep. All right. That's. That was brench Merriman brat. Repressed it always could've gone worse. You know, I feel like it's gone way worse before so barstool radio. We I don't know. I don't know what else to say. Over. We'll be back. Tech. If you take the specifications from the customers, and you bring them down to the software engineers. Yes. Yes. That's that's right. And I just have to ask why couldn't the customers? Just take them directly to the software people. Well, I'll tell you why. Because engineers are not good at dealing with customers. So. You physically take the specs from the customer. Well. No, my my secretary does that or the facts? So then you must physically bring them to the software people. No. I mean, sometimes what what would you say you do here? The look I already told you I deal with the God damn customers. So the engineers don't have to I have people skills. I am good at dealing with people. Catch you understand it? What the hell is wrong with you people? We're back. We have the call her daddy girls in the house never seen. We've talked about office about how you guys are. Just intimidating. I've never seen someone just it was like your company's just started spinning around and circles Domine. Yeah. No idea what this. Oh, I haven't seen you guys. I feel like in a long time we've been away when you guys come to the office. You do your you're on your own planet, basically. But you're gonna fight with Rachel Bush or a fight like war words. And if I didn't really the drama was squashed. And then you brought it back to the surface. Thanks to move. If I say what happened. It was rough rowdy is rough rowdy in, Dan. He's like, oh, I think Rachel bushes coming to rough around him. Yeah. I think her in the daddy girls have beef. That's basically what I said, which I. Quote, quote tweeted that you said like virtual Bush hates us, maybe. The daddy girls. Yeah. She does. Wrong. No. I mean, it's definitely we were not so Reggie Bush, by the way, it's famous great ass used to at least. I don't know about now. Yeah. It's little inflated. You still great tummy. Okay. Hates films up from time. Recording fell player. She's safe Mary to Jordan player, but she like fucked Antonio Brown the night before they got married fact. Yeah. Like came out on the cheek in for and then she said like for revenge when say remarried that her husband fucked this like college girls, get revenge. Zoll fact, this fax fax the girl has actually reached out to us. Her name's like summer Ray or some shit. That's how we know. It's confirmed. No, it's like all of the internet like Rachel Bush has called the girl out and been like you fucking whore. George Bush like she would say fuck in Tony Brown day before you gain marriage. So yes, I I don't know. Let's try do you want to try it we call her? Megan Askar, do you ever number? No. But I mean, she's very active onto all she doing is tweeting about us on Twitter on Bill and our Instagram like last night. She was someone like wrote to her was like the daddy girls are annoying put on her story was like nine. Oh, she really went after us this morning. She's upset that we talk about eating asked and shit and my girlfriend. I'm sure your mother down there all the time. Like don't hate on it embrace it of. So do you hate her or? Also, it's a one way street. Listen, we don't hate her. The beef started because on an episode like a while ago so fee, and I were just talking about how there's this issue where it's like the girls always hate the other woman, and they put no blame on their man that cheats on them. So Rachel Bush went in on this college girl that Jordan fucked when they were married, I'm like when a guy's gonna cheat on you. I don't even fucking. No. I think she got pregnant when she was eighteen his kid. Yes. She's a kid, but we were saying like when a guy's gonna cheat on his wife or his woman. No, I think it's one no side of the funniest part is Tom. Rachel bushes. A friend of mine. Say say, Alex you like fucked her like in what he said. You worked with her on. But did you not say fuck, that's what you said. You did mouth that? And I was like crazy guys are giving credit credit talk. Raises begging Rachel Bush believe it or not to record. Not sure. Your friend of smoke shows. We've sent her merch before. Okay. You like a nice working relationship? We used to. Yeah. I mean, we haven't been touching awhile. Just. On the phone. Did you ever number takes right now? Tell her to get on radio Oscar if she's fucked down Tonio Brown's, oh, again, you're saying she has a disclaimer I'm gonna say both them tonight this. Yeah. I think definition of facts is very so there is an article and a racial Bush confirmed that this girl fucked her husband because the girl has video of it supposedly and Rachel Bush went on record being like this. You are nothing. But revenge for my husband because I made a mistake in the past before we got married, and blah, blah, blah. Our whole point was not to shit on her for what she post on the internet or what she looks like all our point was in a previous episode. We were saying that why are you blaming this college girl for fucking your husband when right and eat of the moment happen. So what does the guy do when he's going to cheat on his wife girl? He's gonna fuck in teller. I'm gonna get a divorce. We're separated etcetera. She died last night, you'll say whatever you pay anything that outlandish and then Jordan employer slid into idea. Yeah. Sounded wrong. He's trying to fuck Sophea. Yeah. He said something along the lines of like, you don't know what you're talking about. Like, we have a great relationship. I some they're like so delusional and so living in their own world. I didn't even make sense. What he's yeah. I could look through idea. But no, I saw a tweet. She wrote something like she called you. Buha's bug ass hoes bug. I actually thought it was funny. Why I kind of nice bogus. Does that mean? Like big is what that means just took it as like an insult. He has of gross is like fucking grow side people. But the thing I don't think she got. And maybe I'm wrong. She's like don't use my name for clout. But you guys are way bigger than her. I think she she tweeted or someone tweeted, and she retweeted it, she has like fifty seven k on Twitter are account was literally activated four fuck in months ago, and we have thirty K, and I'm not like trying to be like, oh, she is that like the fact that she's being like, you're using me. For clout, we don't need to use her for Clough is that there's different there's all sorts of different. You guys right now are like podcast people. Fucking gigantic. I don't even know. So she's been the she probably how many you must have bazillion Instagram falls hundred thousand does it. Oh, so you as our way fucking bigger than she is want you stick the data gang honor. That's what I do. I mean, we just that with our other. No, I'm not saying that's the best way to do it. Because what? Earn. Right. Trying to. No, he's like I could fuck her one day. We'll have. No, no, no. I no I hear you. We had just had beef without like youtuber and befall. So we had a girl that is like huge on YouTube. She was supposed to come on our show, and it was scheduled for noon. And then we were we never heard from her. And then her publicist reached out to us at like, one o'clock and was like, hey, like, we can't find Tanna. I think she went on a bender last night, which is located hilarious because it's like the fact that your publicists thrown you're on the bus. It's not like she's sick. It's like she went on a bit. Then they were like we and we can't find her. So we're like, okay. Finally, they I guess they found her and they said they were shaking her trying to wake her up together to the interview. So like whole big drama, right? I think we were mostly upset because like her team reach out to us for her to come on our podcast, and then we were completely stood up. Yeah. Didn't go in like beg her to cod. You guys don't know. That was going to be our first like major. Yeah. So she trust you to right. So supposedly she trashed us. But that's what people thought, and then she actually was on Twitter and people were like, you sub tweeting the daddy girls. And she was like, no. I mean, we through the daddy gang on her. Hang on her knit was like no turned out. She was talking about her ex boyfriend's new girlfriend or some shit but the daddy game. We ended up telling them what happened like. To where it was the craziest bucket was like we told them to go right or to tag, call her daddy on like her latest posts, and it was thousands and thousands. And then like, I don't even know how many people ended up and like it didn't going those sheets like post now, they keep tacking up. All right. Wake guys. Like similar through the street getting like dildos? Straw. These people are it's amazing. There's so fucking cool. It's but with Rachel Bush like I mean, obviously, we could say go do that a lot of people don't know who she is. And I also don't think like the, I don't know. I don't think it's worth it with great responsibility comes great power. That's one of the or is the reverse with great power. We're supposed to I think that's one of the criticisms that I've gone through the years. It's like I don't control like the stories, and we sick them on people. And like, I mean, we re when that whole soul cycle thing went down. We shut down their social media for like they went. They took it whole got cuck editor in their comments off. Yeah. They just shut it. They didn't do anything s soul cycle thing. Yes. So I got talked by a soul cycle guy. Back in the day thing thing cocked. Yeah. No. It's not like when your girlfriend goes for a soul cycle instructor. Tuck cycle for a while. It was a whole big thing. But all the stories are leaving comments under everything souls like shut down the social media. That is great that is. But that's. Hundred. I saw like so many people damnedest the past two days, and like, I guess Rachel Bush is on like a mad speed is blocking daddy people because I guess one get one guy slide in like one guy slid into her DM's and said like your husband would fuck both of the daddy. Like, she's having lock people for sure. Yeah. It's pretty aggressive. All me, Tommy talks through she wants to call. I said, hey, those callers outta girls trashing he'll involves. They wanna talk to you would you wanna call in? 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You're walking around like, you know, the disguised afar. Takes to lead allowed into the cable wonders that's you're walking around like look, there's no smooth way to walk around with a cane. Cosmo Kramer, did not really did pimp. Cassar it's hard to not look with the cane. Let's say you're limping way too much. You're you shouldn't be on a cane you need to be on corrections. But I'm hurt. I'm not this is not a pimp move. This is injured move. So I still find that hard to believe that you do it on the opposite side. So Cain Twitter came at me. I posted a video of me caning around. And I my initial thought I've never been a king guy before was that you use the cane as a replacement for your bad lake turns out, you're supposed to put on the opposite side, and it's supposed to. To siphoned fifty percent of the load to the Cain and fifty percent on your bad legs saying because it's a rehab tool for you. Now, it's not let's survive and try to conquer the world you need to be on crutches right now. He's not some the fuck around about look have you ever heard of rice. I'm staying off at what the Cain. Does. It takes a lot of the pressure off of it. But you don't know rice rice, Tommy. Yeah. Resting off of it rest, I ice compression elevation compression. You have bubble wrap around your knee. It's called God's tape. All I know is using it to keep the ice onto my knee, which is incredibly swollen right now raise caused my kneecap slid out of its place and then slid right back into its place. That's called. L injury right on Tuesday night. It's not an MC L injury. It's just did you go get right. Mc L is Frankie dumb ass tried to say this on four play as well. It's not an MC L situation your kneecap. It's a patella hold on tell. Tell us yell MCI keeps it from going back and forth. What keeps them from popping out? No, no, no, no, no, you're wrong. All right. I have right. We're going, but so many Dr tweets. A lot of doctors. Listen to four bland. A million doctors listen to four play. Of course, sounds like I had a patellar subway station is what everybody keeps saying I e my kneecap slid out of its place, and then return to its place very quickly. And what that does is obviously causes all kinds of swell swelling to occur in that area. After it sides back in in the main goal is to keep as much that inflammation, swelling down as possible. Now, I was able to play hashtag hockey tough. This happened like early in the second period, I was able to play the rest of the game. And I really didn't have much of an issue. So that's why I don't believe there's any tears or anything of that nature because I was able to skate no problem. And now, even if I try to do certain mobility things with like one way, it's just not a problem, obviously trying to swallow, and it's very stiff, and I'm trying to stay off as much possible because of rice, Tommy, not like the food rice. But it's like to recover your destroy need his little rices PA. No, no, no. That's that's quite different timing. But there's so much shit that goes on the knee. You could've done to your meniscus. You could do you could have a slate. NC L tear, you basically web MD yourself diagnosis. I'd go just hobbling around not even with MD got like emails people claim, easy physician. It doesn't surprise me. Though emailed me up and down the clock here. Look at this. It doesn't surprise me that the majority of doctors would listen to four play. That's like the number one affluent audience. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's like the old adage, I don't even know if this is all I heard this going up like if aids was transmittable on Goth handle than we would addict we'd have to care nineteen eighty before. Even like became an epic understand. Look, I these people I trust these people that got good signatures Email signatures. That's always huge. Even even the guys just told you that you sprained your vagina. Go to the fucking doctor from Justin. Toya hyman. What are you gonna do? It's tough to. 'cause I so I you know, again when it happened. It was I was able to play through it. So I didn't think it was too serious. But I could tell rapper the game jumped in the shower adrenaline war off all that stuff. I was like fuck this could be pretty serious. How'd you do in the game? You're leaving that out which is gonna make me assume that you lost. So we did lose. So here's what happened. I mean, if it's if you would've gone play if he would've done anything heraldic, that'd be the first thing of his mouth. He's stuck. I scored a goal on my hob-. I will set ordering game on the ice. I will say why pecan confirm this. This is the second game I've ever played in this league. And this was the playoffs. So I missed the whole season. Basically haven't played in probably four weeks something like that have been on the ice and like four weeks for shift. First time I talked to puck goal. Whatever between the wickets knows actually is a sick little. I don't even know if that's a hockey giving go put now between the wickets that's five whole basically is a sick little giving go player. Demand made a couple awesome plays at the point. And then backhanded one to me back door, and I settled it took forever. But eventually put it in a lot of people like thought you were gonna to and miss. I wide open that which would have been bashing. But I didn't you're the one who wrote a blog. I am gonna say couple years ago that you should not s- slapshot. Yeah. If you take a Clapper, aka slapshot in men's league, hockey, your national. Yeah. Exactly. Your giant asshole? How are you supposed to shoot? Wrister snapshots norm stuff like that. When you wind up and take a slapshot, you're being an asshole because a decent amount of people. Don't wear actually in a lot of leagues you have to work ages in New York, which is why most places you don't have to. But a lot of people just wear like a half shield. So their faces are protected a lot of people don't wear shoulder pads or whatnot because yes, it is like it's hockey. It's violent game. It's physical game all that. They're fun while there to get a good workout in. You know, the guy win the girl in real flexible, right and assigned shot just changes everything because it's so unpredictable can deflect off stick deflect escaping. It hit somebody in the ankle. And fuck up their ankle like it could it just brings a lot of uncertainty. Endanger to something that. Nobody's trying to get hurt ever. Oh, definitely. Do it all the time. And the thing is I can hockey when you grow up playing, you know, whether from basically like, you know, junior high level onward like anytime somebody winds up for a shot. The whole goal is to get in the way and block the shot. You know, you like sacrifice your body. All the boys in the bench. Go crazy when you blogger shot, it's great men's soon guy winds up. What would you get these high playoffs though? Yeah. Well, this is different. No playoffs. You're right. It's a little different special yard wounded wick where you contributing. They're typically they're typically high scoring games how we are up to one with fifty six seconds left, and we lost her high school. No, it was very we lost in overtime. Good games between the plus you have fifteen seconds name fast-food chain that starts with the letter s sonic. So knees subway, don't you? What is Sony in Virginia come on? It's like Bob county. County. County sony. World. Keep saying. Is considered a raw gates? I typed in Sony's food first thing that popped up with Sony's food in Madrid. Spain. Not in your lungs Jody's shoney's. That's right, man. Oh. What a huge missed for you Smith, or that's shoney's what a huge miss that was taken shake heard of it. Heard of it. I think that's the I wanted to gun ever done. I know that's true. I think statistically, I'm batting like nine hundred. So that would me I'm wrong in the past. No, I think that was my first one I've been on a heater after late in the year last year. I got a lot chapstick stool check back. Do the all I do is win. When two of us get it like you don't get to. What was that? Frank. That's when you go, quiet. You know, you're sorry. We were just like rearranging the. To look like you guys like I wasn't end. So I was sitting behind and I mean, we all knew all the tap. I made them drop the Oxford to the back of the room. How about Frankie did a whole charade earlier as we knew day wasn't gonna be on radio? We're like, oh, are you? Are you going to be gone to are you going with Dave Frank? I'm not sure yet. I might meet him. Okay. You little shit stain. Your obviously going to be on this show. You. Under the gun. Would you say? So what did you say what you said that? I did something wrong there. I've seen you can't play. All I do is win when two of us get right? Well, that was like my first real strong victory over Smith. Usually, he's very very quick. He's usually the first one answer. He always very smug about it. He he'll say to make Smith he'll say to me. Oh, when are you gonna come at us with a real question? And then when I do ask a hard question. He was like well that is even fair bikers show. Show known as even a fast food chain. You said Sony so did say. Chain you might. I'll I'll shake spangles smack. What is that smash burger skyline chili burger skyline borrow sonic sonic would be the first one. But nailed it at subway subway, concert faster subway, number one fast food chain in the world right now. He piece sticky dough fuck yourself sneaky. What was that other one? You said that was never heard of spangles. Yes, you're just making stuff one of us that spangled family owned fast food chain based in Wichita, Kansas. All right, Frankie. Relax shake shack. That's shake shake checks ago. Right here. Exactly. Can we say why Dave's not here is that announced the Celtics game? Yeah. Yeah. He was talking about that yesterday a little bit. Making sure, but anyways, I got a lot of doctors in my a lot of doctors slide a lot of doctors tweet nappy. This guy tweeted at me that he tore is great to actually. ACL senior year playing baseball had no pain and ended up finishing game. No pain. Doesn't mean. There's no tear. Also, not about her. Carson Wentz threw a touchdown. Convergences room on a tornado. What I told my CEO's applaud bath. Because brooklyn. Here's my thing. Is that like when you tear your don't you have like, no lateral movement notes eight when you when you terrier ACL, the is what affects like when you plant and give stabilization. So if you plants like, you're automatically give out I've been planting all that. Well, but it's not the AC L isn't just what holds the need together. Rigs a whole bunch of shit in their AC real past injury stuff Smith in this. Yeah. Because I did my off things that are in the knee now. Exactly. And you don't know you're actually trivia contest. It's not a trivia contest. Name name name. In the new year. They could be fucked up right now, you're just making it worse by Canaan around making right problem. Right. Applying the rice system the back to things you don't wanna fuck with. I'm a little bit jealous of very I think having like a minor injury. Like that like a minor physical Andrey like that's like pretty cool like, I don't mind having minor. It's smith. Played golf in two weeks. K like that's like. Yeah. Thank you. Seven the real second. You're not her get up and give me a practice. Swing right now. At the king. I already did shadow swings. The bathroom yesterday. The first thing I do if I think I'm hurt golf club. Yeah. That's true. I'm not gonna use the cane the main reason I use the cane for the rice, you gotta stay off at rest if I'm walking around putting all my pressure on the knee every time I'd take a step. It's bad for my knee. However, the cane alleviates a lot of that pressure in stressed and helps the are part of rice, which is rest ice compression elevation. You just love being king guy. That's the only reason you're doing a king right now. I'm chair. I'm saying should be in like a wheelchair. Dude, I'm telling you, you're just so Smith probably but to go to a wheelchair. Pain. Does tell you get a wheelchair Smith. No, absolutely not. But I can mess with the toll. I can live without it. So I can't even folks in without like a good knee. Like, it's the most. Not good, dude. Looking you? You're not good right now. It's really messed me up. Well, that's true. Yeah. This is the same kind of complex. Don't point your candidate. Slap that Cain. Right. Say. Robbi such an old man move just pointing the cane if people to shake in it. The first time I did that was at Robbi earlier. By a turnaround was like you talk that rob yet. So here's what happened. I I don't know. If I explain this the radio yesterday, but I was going back door. I'm a I'm a left handed player. I was going to the right goalpost trying to explain it in layman serves for but he's not a huge hockey. Did you heard it Tuesday night? Oh, I and you didn't have the Cain yesterday. You line yesterday? Yesterday. Right. And the issue was that what I realized was then it got more and more swollen throughout the day walking on. Right. So now, I'm not walking advocate. I'm hobbling on this. This is a crock of shit this injury. In fact, that you were hurt yesterday. Like, nobody has the slightest clue is 'cause I was walking and putting pressure on it when you're not supposed to be because of right? You are running sprints up and down the office. Lauren idiot, you go look at the footage. I was limping around the office. Just wasn't doing it with a cane. I'm not buying it. Have you seen? How different might you? Look. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. That's true. Thank you. I I don't know if you need. Smith wheelchair. Wheelchair right now. I'd be. Big cat at all over hears. It happened. If anybody if doctors out there anybody's got any experience with this. We'd like to hear from you, or at least I would because I need to know what to do because I don't want to actually go see a doctor, and what happened was I was going back door. Okay. I'm a lefty I was going to the right goalpost guy. Pass one across. I was gonna be able to catch. It was a little bit in front of me. So I reached out my right leg to try to catch it with my skate and kind of kick it back to my stick real quick. And as I did that right stretching my leg out kinda like bending down on one leg and then reach back to my left. And as I did that my kneecap literally slid sideways like out of place, and then as soon as I straightened, my leg, it's slid right back into place. Dr smitty says you have at minimum an MC L spree. That's from Dr Smith from Dr smitty at tours ACL. Let's I gotta be honest. If you're going to go with the doctor that you gotta say, Dr Smith awesome. You can call me revenue. Whatever you don't don't let professor CBS in here teaches. Oh, man. History. Buff, you yourself some Sonian. Thanks danni. Good. No, I get it. Just it's it's kinda taken. I shouldn't have Dr in front of my name for anything. But I'm telling you right now. I a doctor calls up a certified physician and says, hey, Dr Smith he's right about that. One at minimum MC L sprained you're going to look in your little king. I don't think yells prime for. Okay. I'll go I'll go twenty bucks. No MC L sprain line. You odds. Obviously what you just said that your doctor what kind of doctor walks into the room, not a duck. I see us brain. But I'm going to need some because shit because I haven't taken your choice. Your choice. Leading us fine. Twenty bucks. I'm C L spring. Doctor call right now, fun, doctor walks in a bit, and you fifty bucks. Imagine if you tried to take and he goes, well, I'm gonna need five to one. That's all comedy are what the fuck you talking about. All right. We got a bunch of people calling in phone phones winding up people that want to talk about my niece intuition. So anyway, that's what happened slip out of place, kneecap slip out of place. And then I would say within a second slip back into place. I straightened out my leg. It's right back in. I went into the boardroom Harvard after next affect anything. I got up I kind of put some weight on my knee. It was okay. I went on the bench when I sat on the bench definitely hurt. But when I jumped on the ice it didn't hurt. It was totally fine. I could play with it because you really rest of the game just had Drennan run through your veins. I didn't my shoulder until the ref raised my hand, I didn't like the fucking first round. I've done tests. I've stood on one leg and gone left gone. Right. Gone up gone down. Tony Rix MCI. Sprint phones are. Got a bunch of thought of people who probably took like one like medical type or the. Or they wanna talk about. It's more than I've taken. Yeah. There's going to be a lot of those. All right. Marshall radio common, man radio. I have some sort of knee issue Smith and believes that it's an MC L sprain. Dr Smith, and I don't think that's correct. I'm on a cane I got a little ice ice during the break. We're gonna hit a break. I'll be back. We'll be back in. You have fifteen seconds. Name animal that starts with the letter j. Jagua jackass June bug. Is not house jagged. Donkey. Twenty seconds. Definitely Nance animal. We're talking insects are animals. They're part of the animal potato. You are. Jane like your health, Frankie, June bugs out an answer. He just rattle, my cage stolen out false propaganda, June bug is not is not an unacceptable. I don't understand tough. I don't know. I mean, I want what you say. What would you say are Jaguars house June bug on just right? It's not necessarily good one it just fits. Yeah. Frankie house. Jim bug. Non-answer wasn't June bug. You said jackass jet jackass acceptable land jackass, non nonexempt. Jellyfish called a cat like a pussy. I'm gonna right now. Now, Tommy easy time. Didn't mean it that way. You don't want to call it data goes coming up here and smack in your attic, it has nothing to that. That donkey or ass or what or ass. Okay, stick it up, your arse, smitty. Might add to I I dunno, JIMBO. I think that's you're going to reconsider that Frankie. That's outrageous denied saying that jellyfish is acceptable. Then I'm saying that June bug is acceptable acceptable. Is that I mean, there's not I'm I'm looking at other animals jackal Jacko is the only one I even go cat. I mean, there's a Yeager that was a animal Jack rabbit June bug. I don't understand like what house June bug. You're not considering insects animals. I think we I mean neither of us like the studio and the control room can't answer. Like we have to go out and get like a non-biased. Like you guys. We wanted to count. Frankie doesn't look we need to have an unbiased party. Let's go to Ashton Ashton quick question for you before you start speaking, do you? If someone said name, a an animal that letter j would you consider June bug, correct answer? Tough one. I know damn that's crazy. Cancel. You're gonna think the the I think it's June beetle the green June beetle, you just call it a June boat. Yeah, I could go did a quick Google on June bug on seen as like a movie. Usually sector the animal, Amy Adams. I'm Beth David's sarin, June two thousand five. Yeah. You have to go against you there. But I thought it was an animal so June beetle if I would have said that that would account. Correct fuck so I'm the only one from that round. I'm still claiming jackass Pat what's going on. Yeah. Rig with ya. And then the Google search really kinda hurt Kurt a story. I agree. Facts best. Four under the gun. Just a quick note before I get your knee because I'm not a doctor, but I did take the Nazi class. So I'm good. I I love under the gun big Bs our guy, but I do get a little disappointed just a little bit when Dave there. Mike faulk? No under the gun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a different. It's just a whole different show. It's a whole different vibe with Dave. We it's not worth the risk of him hating it ruining it forever. So I always keep it away. All Dave really needs to do. Just be like what was that? Yet. Don't do that any there is under the gun. Cancel no. No. But I think what we're overlooking. They were looking too much into the MC L in the ACL. And this sounds like a patellar tendon kind of deal like what Victor Cruz had that just destroyed his career. That's what Dr once said when he called up. I don't like that. I don't like the sound of that at all. Vic Rick crews also went down in the end zone, and like you could tell it was bad injury. Thank you minds. Fine. I was walking around yesterday. You guys couldn't even tell what your hockey rig point pep. Very good point. Yeah. Look, I just don't think it's that serious. I understand that. Maybe if it's not treated correctly or not diagnose correctly that could lead to because your knee things tend to compensate other muscles of the parts you need to compensate and that can lead to decomposition of your knee fine. I understand that. But as is now if I apply the rice system properly, I don't see I wouldn't be finding a couple days. Maybe a couple of weeks at most that's my thing. And just a heads up when they say like sprained MCI or ACL, that's an actual tear or so socially. Sprang like actually toward. Yes, brains are bad. The I know to like a high ankle sprain. You'd rather break your leg in half than do that. What? Yeah. I can't be no high ankle sprain. Sidney Crosby cut them out for like two years. It's year and a half, maybe physically like, it's better. But like right exactly if you're like us, we'd rather play. Mean like us like, we're not a pro athlete that needs to come back from it to be trying to make it come. I'm not sure. But I do know that if you're a pro athlete, I'm pretty shoot rather. Just have a compound fracture on like your femur. You get that fixed and like nine months or something then you're back. Whereas a high ankle sprain. You might never recover from fully. Well, it's like a injuries. Terrible too. Terrible. Absolutely terrible ACF, oh is much flocks. It gets people pretty much come back ACL now nowadays arthoscopic -ly. It's a pretty easy recovery. As long as it's like. The clean tear pretty much dead. Guys. Achilles in my leg. I've never really had an issue with a dead guys. Achilles. So. Yeah. Oh, big time. Dave you ever get any of these raving sometimes people think about that. I feel like what kind of life you live. Oh, man. Cadaver could ever. But I mean the worst part about a CO injury. At least for Manno varies was just the monotony of the rehab like you wanna do and stuff. But like you have to really just sit back and hold off. I'll say so shattered by right index fan, I got titanium plate holding it together. I blocked shot plan junior hockey, not a big deal. And this was the most monotonous rehab of all time. Jake put one and they legit which strap my finger in to this contraption and it had like a string at the end of it. And they would like change the rubber bands for how like stretchy they were. And I would just go like this push back against this man with my next just go know. The low kid from the shining your legitimate. That's the only thing I could do for like two hours a day. It's socked it was just the godawful worth. All right. We're overdue for a break. Sorge Hera last break of the hour. We'll be back and if you meant. About Frankie trying to sneak in to the bathroom. I'll I'll try to show up town funk in his face off the third uptown funk. Yeah, he's trying to throw. I know what he's doing. He's trying to throw us off actor who's back there. Little loser. Smirking like, a squirrel. Just what he gets such a rush out of Frankie how the islanders doing lately. I haven't been paying attention first place. Exciting. I love how the flyers one citing eight straight games and our stole like four point. Oh, the Eastern Conference is one of the most insane things. One thirty eight minutes tonight you need to bounce back. They lost a real tough one against the Bruins in Boston on parade day. Everything was against them. The officiating was against them. They still played a great game. But you gotta bounce back tonight against shitty team in the devils. Yeah. I really heard you crying about the crowd about it for a long time. I like I cried about it probably for seven hours here at work. And then I went back to my apartment and just cried about it again to my my buddies like we understand he does that work all day. Like, you're not gonna do this here. And they just shut up. Good for them understand. You didn't see the play. I'm like pulling pictures like we just don't care are your boys. Not as big islanders fans. Isn't it? I have one buddy who's a an island fan. The other the other two ranger fans, which doesn't really get you know, it's not the best for me. Holy shit. Yeah. No, one cares as much as I do. Cares apartment in my apartment. Like, they don't they think I'm psychotic when it comes to like, they're like like, why are you? Why did they know you grew up down the street from the Cali could tell I could sense the tone that came out of that. Do they? Rallies. The official. They didn't. Now, they do. By the way, Frankie when I was when I was at the waist manager this past weekend talking to a couple of guys Kisner particular. He's one hundred percent in going to Borelli during the PJ going to be a hell of a scene. I would love I'm picturing like Borelli being just a holding room of all golfers. Waiting till I go for teatime. What would you do if Tiger Woods walk into rally? I have. No, I think you just hand over the keys now your place that would be Tigers. I don't know what you do. What you ask? Would you ask Tiger Woods? If you wanted to water. See we're not gonna do that understand everything that's coming out of you. Write your bullshit legitimate question. Everyone gets water at Parral. It was a God damn joke. I just said that we don't give free refills. And the reason for that is if you don't want to pay for the second drink just get a water. What would you give Tiger Woods a free? We've I'll give Tiger Woods. Whatever the hell he wants some. Although I want to be treated like the same way. We were just like it'll be five minutes. Like, we just like make them, wait. Yeah. Like what what the pizza guy did to him? Exco? Yeah. No he did. He had a big laugh. Joey, no one's ever said. No to me like he walks in. And it's clearly like not that busy and just like can I have your name for the reservation? The tiger. It's like, can you? Please spell that. What's your last name, sir? Tiger Woods this. Yeah. PJ championship out at Bethpage Black in may. And there will be a contingent. I'm curious to see how many guys find their way to Borelli's. I'd like to have like a nice because you got like a big crew in there a big table. Yeah. Like, you know, close out the back room have like a nice dimwit like just buddies dinner right before the PGA on like Monday night, Tuesday night, believable place. But they would they be boozing or they not be it'll casual Kisner here. So maybe. I still remember him getting kicked out of Morgantown a rough under out. Nice guy. Greg crew, he's. This is the best. They he did he got kicked roughing boycotted it. He got them PJ up from Achim, South Carolina, where they're from to Morgantown they left at like eight in the morning is boy beau hill fought at I think ten Kizer coach just hopped right in that ring and start swinging whiz loves booze. And he said started boozing right when they took off at eight AM. He's about one hundred sixty pounds soaking with and his buddy fought at ten PM. And he was annihilated came up to be second name country that only has five letters chilly. China and nine correct. Eight seven on a win rakes. Three. Oh. Oh, no. You little do. We little minion. We've go cry. You're next up high haters, stay right here. We'll be back for a lovely Friday edition tomorrow after four o'clock. Yes. Cosc-? Rattled sat on the leave the cabinets and of just that. Little fake out. Sitting there. I'll Gideon care. That's like what you came up with a little fake out rude. Do this right? We got a little ticked off by cuscak. All right, folks, we got mardi much in the house. Hey marty. How are you? How you doing? Good marty. How are you man? I'm no sleep Rick's. How's your last week bent coming off a hot win? It's been good. I'm in. I'm looked as new person here. I mean, I got the NCAA on my on my fingertips. Yeah. You know? You're like you're like a newly elected president. Right. Your first hundred days, you got a little bit more clout. You got a little bit more poll people understand your popular in the country. Like that's a winning rough and rowdy does for you. I'll take that being president. Yeah. Never happened life. But I'm in so what? So what happened to this referee that you called out is is just slowly him? Or is this a conspiracy? That goes it goes, it's goes, really deep. I'm working on some crazy already like mob shit. I might get wacked name again. Think Roger might get. Name's Roger Ayers. Yeah. Coincidence more drills. Yeah. So so on Monday he called the game where it was a brutal beat like the guy completely took a shot after the buzzer. And they didn't look at it. And it screwed the spread thousands one nights. Is you know, what I lose all time? I'll take that. But you call it you called the big twelve I call the big twelve on Tuesday ask why they didn't want it in review it or that is that their standard practice to review it. Well, like, the NBA they always review no matter what like even has nothing to do with if you win or lose. But the NCAA said that if it has nothing to do with the outcome of the game and not gonna look at it. What should be altered? If betting is becoming a more mainstream thing. Yeah. But even the NCAA to is like if you they have point differential helps you in the NCAA tournament as well. So they should be looking at it. No matter what point. So I told her that great point. Yeah. Crew are really strong. Your brain on the right? I haven't slept. I've been so down this rabbit hole. So then Wednesday happens this guy fucking shoots like literally three seconds after the buzzer. And it says an announcer goes. Oh was that. Definitely didn't countless oh Roger airs chains. The chains. Spread changed the call. What an interesting thing. And that's where I went deep. I was up all night. And I he's been voted the best ref. He's is fucking nickname is the Houdini. Houdini Fano reasons a magician with the j. Yeah. So I do. Yeah. Raft has his own nickname, and it's Houdini and mardi much during his video spelled magician. And a j I c I but after little. Little little like he. Okay. But yes, so after a little heat came up, my tweet, like how the sky was always at they said, they came out the NCAA came out and said that they will they will review every scoring play like after the game if comes down to the buzzer for tournament. So I said, oh, we're making waves. Then I come out this video and kind of went off a little bit. And then they came out another statement this morning that they're going to check it during the regular season as well because and they actually mentioned it's because of gambling. So I mean, I'm on toast, the power to mind said it's because morning much. Yes. The more emotional Mari mush man for the people, and I'm going deeper into this for another episode. And I'm really scared like I'm actually getting into a job. Well, are you familiar with Tim Donaghy? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This might be another guy straight out of the mob to head. Jeld motherfucker like you is like oaken side. Like, you should be careful. You know, I know where I'm way too deep right now. Yeah. I mean, what the point shaving stuff that happened like the seventies? I was all like Henry hill in goodfellas. Yes. Oh, it's like people have runners big gamblers have runners people at lost a lot of money that the tap into some resources just allegedly stuff is. So he he this guy's slicked back Jack a little bit of Italian blood. Why throw in cal- party out games? That's another reason like he's hates Kentucky. So he threw Cal party. He's ref four Kentucky's what's John John Calipari. You were saying Cala party alla pari thrown at tea or I was never throw a teen gal. I think I heard. Okay. Regardless. Well, it was fine. Once you set it in like wildly incorrectly twice in a row the same way incorrectly. That was what was why anyways you done? Try. Econo- party. I didn't know what the fuck. John Kaldor rate. Talian dish Frank. He's gonna wind up in the back. Served. So he's ref for Kentucky games, which John cale party has coached and John Cowboys thrown out the three of them, which is absurd which is to be thrown out of any college basketball. But the reenter four times and his record for the past five years with this guy ref Kentucky is like like six and twelve Kentucky six and twelve at home doesn't bread or straight out straight up. Oh. He's only twelve losses or home in the past. Yeah. But the thing is also voted the sky the best ref of the in like the league like by like, the there's like some fucking board that does like vote the board suspicious. So he's lying in people's pockets of tapping into. So you think the mob is paying him? And then he's paying the board to raise the best or it's all their own cahoots. I think there's people that are down a good amount of money who are locked up, and they have runners doing stuff for them. And they lost a big bet. And then now they're tapping into the resources, which is Raja a is who's doing it? My neutrally set how you do that. I mean, if you cal- pari at a three out of four games and two nights in a row. And then I've done like that too. He was it was a big twelve game. And then an ACC game. I mean, a big east games. So like, what are you doing? This guy's take days off either he worked on thanksgiving Dedi doesn't stop work this whole schedule. So I'm try and go to one of. His next games that I can an absolutely rattled. Every honestly, I'm not leaving the office with you say there's anyone away from the mafia listening. I think this is all rubbish garbage. And it's not. Single iota of evidence. Yeah. I think this is. Now why? Lou garbage. And it's not true. Come after me. Obvious listening. That is my officials race many you want to join us. I. Mm. So it's not too dumb to talk guys defend my man, mardi. A rat a row after the rat out here hunt Herat. Couple of life alerts before he. Oh, come out of the elevator is tarp laid out for me elbow. Tommy who we need. We need the old Fordham coach that we couldn't think of the name. He wasn't the the Saint John's coat. John's get our Orson. Yeah. Lice action to help back really just get them. All get all the characters to go all the way back to slice. I don't think it does. I don't think it does the fact that the NCAA like acknowledged the next day. Doing what what new thing are you gonna change since you have all this power. And you can just get the NCAA to change your ever. Fuck you what what's your new? What's the next goal? There's not much. You think max I might sound smart for like this second. I have no idea what to do with this. I'm just going with it. I the winds going. I'm going that way too. Right. Well, what why while but it isn't. It is very interesting that something like that was just kind of blown off like the first initial buzzer beater because. People's lives are on the line literally every night gambling now. Like the fact that they're just going to say, no, we don't pay attention the buzzer. Beaters anything like, yeah. You fucking pay attention to buzzers beer, I fucking kids mortgage. Villanova won. It was like he was gliding through the for five seconds through off the bat board. And the fact he said, oh, Roger airs chains that that's interesting lose you see the light loss. Roger airs. I ran around my house like I wouldn't nuts. Yeah. I'm in fucking deep. This is you're pretty you're fucking all it on this thing. Oh, yeah. Have you been how you've been getting you've been hot gambling this week? Yeah. I got a I got. No. I got a guy. I'm not doing my my picks have like last night. Memphis, horrible beat. I've been listening to this guy to scare bets. And he's been killing it see, I know winning obviously fun. But you don't think too. You don't I have my own picks winning. I like being no, no someone I here, buddy. No. I know. But it's like I also like being right? That's. You. You all exactly right. This person. It's still my bet still invested in three of those. You're like, oh, I'm onto something. Yeah. All your onto is just doing another person. He's gave me a soccer game at two thirty a hit already like hurt the first one. Yeah. He wants shout. I'm not giving these workforce. Keep that guy. Yeah. So yes. Down a lot anyway to so I need to I mean, ten thousand dollars or rowdy. I need to get that pay scale of quick. Mardi. All right. Well, hopefully, you know. Wade into dangerous waters here if you don't see me just you know, what happened. I won't know. I don't know that. I'll know. I haven't seen you true. That's me. You see me? Raikes said he doesn't. The other day. We're smart my hand things back. I gave you for box up. Bring it back. What's that? Fi gave me some how would you describe them? They're like wraps wires that are weights that you can put around your hands. So it gives your hands like extra weights or sixteen ounces of the same way is the gloves any dislike when you run run with them. Walk around with them all day, just wear the office just ups culture. We'll training to. Yes. What I was gonna say is that you shouldn't be offended mush. Because rigs other day said that he doesn't know who you don't know what looks like. No. Sits right fucking with us. He doesn't have side in his head. That says I'm KB. At first, I was like, how do you not know that? But then really, well, I guess it was never come up to me shit. Hi. I'm really says less than no words. Also cafe twenty eight all the time. He doesn't work there. True. Oh, I was like I was like, oh, he's probably check me out. That's even worse. But okay, let's just have like people come in this room like k b like three other like business people, and you just have to guess. To that people went out like a couple of weeks ago. Donnie was still around. Donnie, gotta hammered which you know, par for the course, and he was walking back to his hotel. And apparently someone was coming up to them and Donna just like, hey, man. Not now four just not just wanna pass out found out later. It was katie's. See? They were out together. Earlier too. Yeah. It's not a distant anybody. I just he doesn't wear sign and his head. I've never been introduced to him. So I had better form to stay under the radar. Do his work gets back in the day writer, his recognition. He doesn't like a very inconspicuous white guy, especially here where it's filled with time where that happened was after work on a Friday. And I just thought it was somebody's buddy that they brought into the office to hang out after work on a Friday, Tom you're talking about it. And he was like, you know, that that you didn't know that's k b and I was like we talked about. That's like I thought that was like. Fred. So a little basing them we got introduced to. It'd be nice be nice moment. Great writer big fan of his writing. Yeah. Me too. All right mardi much. Appreciate you coming in pal. No problem. Thanks for having me. Seriously. Get a life alert. I will keep track of Laura get a serious. Oh. Oh, you have fifteen seconds. Name a college whose team name is the bears cow. No, let's Golden Bear. Oh, fuck your right? Another one and why t- cuts? Yes marty. Let's go cuts town. No UCLA, no five four three main Minnesota. No, they're all your. Let's go to black bears outing golden bears down is the golden bears who the bears you're not. Who? Why? There has to be. Taylor. Hornell Bursa Morgan. Colorado bear cineast what is wrong with you into? Psychopath. I think we all want. Do win. A what real money? Every. Everybody. You have fifteen seconds name capital city under the equator, Mexico City point us know under the coin. Digital? Nope. Six five four three two. One. Anything South America Lima? I was in South America. You hear what I was saying. Oh, no. What did you say many? I said wait a series Argentina, I win with mummy could pull Mexico City. Very curly. Equator. Do you win? Matter what shut up. Jeez. Was that one better? Doing love UTD. Yeah. Now that was that was legit. So who I need a better system for like. No when people are getting answers, correct? And when like who ended up even getting that one correct means many areas in Sydney, Sydney was easiest one. I thought well, I'm basically anything in South, America or Africa. All Shirley, apparently, the capital. Brazil is Brasilia simple enough not Rio de Janeiro. Plummer. Really, what's I got on that train? I was actually hitting a bunch of different countries in South America. Like, I didn't know the capitals, and this really is a control room verse radio because I have guys here. Here. I've guys in here. Just like, they're actively searching the things you guys said like. Correct. You got a fact check to you got a whole team back just say, what are some other? I guess I'm trying to think what are some good ones Capetown. Yeah. That's a good one. Shit. I guess Tiro would be above the equator in Egypt opera, pretty close. What's what's the South Africa? What about Abu Dhabi is that south of the sounds correct of? I don't know if that's that's close close. I don't know if India's south it would be Delhi. I think what is. I like that. Probably. Think about that. It's frustrating. Frankie that day coming up. How this still so flustered from the situation. I guess I can't really get over that. I got I got a good game of thrones related scenario here. So are you gonna do any spoilers? No, no, no spoilers because I think some of our listeners haven't watched it is purely a theoretical situation. A lot of people in the office that are been going through that Robbie FOX watch the entire thing in the last two weeks exactly watching now, I'm not a game of thrones watcher, solely because I did not jump on the wagons soon enough, and I wanna be desperately because there's nobody out there who Shane's like game of thrones watchers like I'm being game show with rain DOT shamed. Like, hell, and all I think it's so big at this point that the shaming has died down. But I mean, just like we just feel bad for you who shames like what do they say? Just happens just happened. Almost feels like you're just kind of playing victim mentality for no reason. No, it's not I don't know. No reason seem incredibly accepting an inclusive nickel Sar you. Okay. Now the previous season there was scenarios in which I would be excluded. Because I was not a game at their watches from certain things excluded for what maybe like watch parties. And I mean. Like Santa ski. And then be like wasn't a bit. I mean, that's a big thing. Why get like upset? I okay like invited on trips and stocks cause I'm not a golfer. It sucks 'cause I wanna be invited. After I understand that. Doing here. I'm not doing that. I'm saying I'm saying, I get it. Not being shame. You're not invited to something that you don't do. Okay. So that's my fault. I apologize for misconstruing fault. It's just like it's not their fault. Well, here's here's the if everybody I found it Instagram ever there like a birthday party. If I responded with I didn't get invited. Not this isn't your group of friends. Why the fuck would you be here? Okay. Well, the fact is game it thrones too. So big, and I want to be involved in the conversation and everything that goes on with that. But I've not watched many of the scene he's a little bit here. And there, I know basically, all the spoils everything happens because I live on the internet, and you can't just can't avoid it. I know everything. So would it be acceptable for me to just basically what the pedia read like every detail? No. I would shame this shit. I'd rather that wouldn't even be a that wouldn't even be. I wouldn't call it lazy. I wouldn't. I would just call it very dump like making custom decision. No. I wouldn't call it. Disgusting. I just for the season. You have plenty of time. You start watching. You will get Robbie FOX watch the whole thing in two weeks. Eighty-three Robbie two months than say anything bad about Robbie Ella Robbie. But I mean, people have a lot of time on their hands. I don't have value stream braid hours a night. Sometimes exactly okay. Where did that come from the other rights? And so the other nights you've got eight hours where you're just jog for seven hours. I mean, you definitely have also like reading all like there is like a game of thrones Wiki or something where it's like they're long recap St. episode that would take like ten fifteen minutes to read and self chess on a lot of time. I mean, it's it adds. I just wanted to know if it was acceptable to be able to do something like that or to read them in just like it caught up. Apparently, it's not the books. That's that's I if you had. Past the books now. Right. Yeah. I just wanna know the ruling on. I think it would just be robbing yourself. Just such an awesome experience watching it. Correct. I know what you're about to say like or incorrect, there are so much gray on there so much that builds up to it the incidents are so. You're you're you're scolding me with your cane just pointing at me. Like, you're a fucking like come condemning someone to death. I forgot I had to. It was really as a as of yours, really. But so bad. I forgot about the Kate. Jesus but selling then, you can't go to games watch part? Is you have to like game of thrones like reading Wikipedia because I would be caught up with the action. I can I can have a conversation about exactly what's going on. What I was trying to explain what I was waving my cane at you like an angry old man lecturing you is that. That's Senator who beaten that other guy over. The Cain eighteen. Even if you think, you know, the handful of big moments or spoilers are all that. That's there so complex all of the characters different storylines building up to them the way that they go down are so important, and like I said so complex that witnessing them experiencing. The several shows that build up to them and all of that blow your Mark I found off. I am. I answered. Yes. So are you going to just not partake? I I don't know. I have. Decide soon. I know this weekend would be the decision making. I mean, even like Sunday's, no more football. I know I'm watching the whole season on out the worst. Outdoors on a Sunday in February Spock the dog outside. How long all day thirty minutes of. It's a nice day. Go to the park, we get it in. All right. You're describing an hour of your four. I mean, it's a it's a production to get me to sit anything you sit down and play fortnight. But but I do that as a as a job at this point. But you were you would do it. If it wasn't a job. Not as much as I do. And it's it's different when streaming and just lying back shooting the shit, and I have to say they rigs and you were like playing. So you don't say anything. I I understand that. Has your girl? Watch them. My fortnight. Streams are thrones. Thrones thrones. Yes. Oh, so she goes to like parties that you're not bite too. She will. Oh, so you haven't been invited some of her game of thrones. Like having conversations and being up viz being the cool. Boyfriend you should do this. I just want to be a part of the cool kids to relationship duty Smith to watch game of thrones. I'm not point game at you right now pointing at the wall, I know it's like a big thing because like actually brought up that radical scenario her and she likes to be worse than you. People. Hard to wave is hard skulls as hard as I am with the cane. Yeah, I just think there's too much into and it's fun and joy expand. You're acting like it's this. It's like this obligation this brutal chore that you do. It's fucking watch an awesome series that everybody loves for. I've tried back in the day to get the start watching. I got the first three in the first three episodes just like did not interest me enough to keep going. Now. I'm not a fancy guy. I'm not a Lord of the rings guy. I'm not an army guy. But it's not that it's politics and relations. I get it. And I get it's like, it's obviously what's hot in the streets. Like, I mean, I'm not saying like, oh, you have to watch it. But like if you're going to get I would say, it's more politics than anything else. Which is fascinating. It's like hard core politics where anything goes dragons boobs, and, but that's all part of the politics in the grand scheme of things in my. That's the way that I interpreted I think that's actually correct and accurate think you'll find that as well. And I know you like politics history like the history of politics, all that type of stuff major Dan Carlin hardcore history, all that shit is right up your alley. This basically like it's almost like a, Dan. Karlan hardcore history show about Alexander the great on fucking steroids. Basically kind of what it feels like dragons with except you get to see it boobs dragons, like they're fucking killing each other amazing shit happens that you never thought they. Gardy ragging battle or? Dragon. It's the greatest of all time at this point of one of like, I want to be involved in it. I just wanna play catch up. And if that good that need to experience it. Okay. I think you should just watch it all, but if you're if you're insist on that watching catching up, I think the better move would be like watching season six and seven. So at least you have a little bit of last. Yeah. Like, I watch at all because you'll be confused start seizing six. I think it's a better move to watch the last two then to read all set fair enough fair enough. I agree and you'll catch up and you'll you're going to finish a month before him. Okay. That's what happening GIO t the next book. Also have a hot thrones take and that as I've many might write the next game of thrones book. He said I may finish in a month. And then I may right? The next one. Right. Tweet. Jeez. His name George s. Martin learn nothing yet, George eight. Ex- book comes out, just so bad. Hey you. Good line. My hawk game of thrones take his I think John snow's just incredibly overrated. Interesting. So I I'm rewatching it and like my dad's watching to some getting his takes along the way. Okay. And like one of his he kinda likes droughts. Nobody's not passionate. He doesn't really like collegiate which I found surprising. A lot of people. I see. But rewatch I could see why you may be one. Yeah. I also think police overrated, my point the reason I say these things because the two are heralded is like the most epic in like desirable and perfect characters in this crazy world of evil and all that. And I don't think John I think Josh knows a great guy. I think he's definitely this beacon of good and all that. But I don't find him to be a compelling character. I don't think he's funny. He's witty. He he fails a lot and gets bailed out all the time. They're looking cat good-looking cap. But I mean, that's fine. You can find a million good looking cats like what am I like without spoiling? I like how unique his his background is back. Backgrounds. Cool me doesn't really that doesn't really have anything to do with like me watching him for seven straight seasons. I learned about his background from a lot of other stuff that happens, but he actually in his conversation. The way that he presents stuff. He's just kind of like they're thinking. Good. Good guy. Yeah. Good guy. I told her I agree with that. And that's something to be. That's something to hang your hat on these good guy in especially in this world. He's always trying to do. What's right? Comes by his father in that regard. And all that great. But I just don't find particularly interesting. Like you say, he's not funny. He's not like entertaining. Just kind of like their game. Game of thrones. Like was your typical show than it ends with John snow like on the throw, but that would be the classic good ending. But since game thrones is not that and throws you curveball expecting fastball. I, you know, I don't think we'll see a lot of people the knees since you're thinking that you're expecting right than the actual. They're gonna hit you at the real fast. Yeah. This is he said if I started today and watch one a day at fence with like a month ago. I didn't say that. I said if you start it now, I just know how obsessed you'll become and you'll Benji finished proudly. But if you start in this for everyone out there if you start game, but there today and watch us one up today, you would finish all the episodes just two days after a first step is. All right. So you're online. Yeah. But again, there's zero I such cliffhangers, and you're you're gonna bend right through need to convince too good. I do too actually very as recommendation. I'm starting. I started you on Netflix. I watched episode one. Is that the creepy one? Yeah. It's like he's like a creepy stalker. I just find it very well done. It's base Gooding wash. Yeah. Yeah. It's very well done. It's basically Francis. If you'd like read books. Shot at France. Now. Now known Francis Hughes bookstore keeper got France rates Francis. A copy of like are now Texan I made a bet like two years ago when I started and I want and the bet was loss you have read pride and prejudice all the way through. So I got tax pride and prejudice. Like a hard bound book is like when Francis are starting Texas basically through right back in my face, piss off typical and Francis. Or you go to read that it was like, no, I mean, you could have real like got tweeted read neural the subway next. All right Francis. I wish I like to read it. I think but I don't. Attention. I go through phases. I have a good imagination. So like I would enjoy reading because like you got to create the images in your head. If I just I don't tend to spend to do it. I really can't do it. I got went through a phase where I read a lot of nonfiction. I read seventeen seventy six by David McCullough. Yes. Oh, fantastic. And it was while as living in Boston. And they he describes so phenomenally the geography of Boston at the time during seventeen seventy during the siege. And all that it's actually begins in late seventeen seventy five with the siege of Boston where all the troops are like Cam bridge, and then like Dorchester heights and all that which when you're living in Boston is just fascinated read about it like two hundred and fifty years ago. Awesome book, and then from that I read John Adams buyer and everybody got halfway through it. And I just stopped. Seems like John's thing to do. Nice. Very good many. All right. We gotta break radio. Give us a ring. Tried take some calls to finish out the week eight three three eight five seven eight six six five. We'll be back.